Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Diving Deep ft. Johnny Pint Glass and Dirty Water Don

Episode Date: February 9, 2023

On today's episode of Macrodosing, PFT is away in Arizona, so The Wonton Don is BACK with some special guests from him and Billy's dive into the East River. You'll hear plenty of stories about the ins and outs of diving, along with the scary nature of the business. Also, Big T gets T'd off again and Billy McFarland is still dodging Billy Football. All of this and so much more on today's show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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This is funny, because Billy fucks this up every time. I don't. I thought you should say, welcome to macrodosing. Then I'm supposed to do the presenting sponsor. Just do the presenting sponsor. okay okay and then I'll say welcome but keep all that shit in there okay holy shit

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Maybe you could use some Three Cheats that. I could. I could. I'm in the middle of a fight camp. I'm on edge. For a fight that might not even happen. I know. That's what sucks.

Yeah. Is he still ducking? Yeah, he's still ducking. He's still ducking. Have you had conversations with him? I actually started. I actually started. We can cut this if my next conversation with him today goes well.

and this gets signed but he's been wanting to do kickboxing he you know why is that does he have experience he has experience in kickboxing but you know what's crazy about kickboxing is it's half boxing yeah so he can use hands basically he's been training kickboxing before and during when he was in prison so in much of like in a lot of sense he might have more experience than i do in boxing for my limited experience of before the hose can say go fight and just sort of hitting a bag for exercise for the past two years so hey i mean if he doesn't think like you know it's three one-minute rounds 180 seconds of what's he what's he what's he what's he we got the we got the money right we literally got the money right rough and rowdy is not going to just like turn into a kickboxing

tournament it's i mean to change yeah to change a boxing card to a different style of fighting card especially with uh you know commissioners and whatnot we have a great relationship with the boxing commissioners in west virginia to just be like hey we want to sponsor like a kickboxing event something that i don't even think a kickboxing event has been commissioned in west virginia for like the past 20 years like it's like what is he what is he what is he what is he's he has some difficulty with his probation officers he needs a 30 day uh he needs to notify his probation officers 30 days in advance um before he leaves the state also he's he in order to get

that expedited he would have to go in front of a judge but the money would have to be right we literally you know put it together so the money would be right I honestly now want to kick his fucking ass because he's been so difficult about it but you know he sort of expected it from him I mean hopefully you know

honestly I pray this fight actually happens because I fucking kick the shit out of him like literally like this like not kick I'd punch the shit out of him that's what he's worried about though so I would I would say on the pod publicly it's going to be a very publicly close fight i've been binge drinking the past couple days not think this fight's going to happen my cardio is shit my hrv is 30 it's not in the hundreds yeah it's going to be a very

close fight hard yeah i mean also but the things he's been training throughout prison so like he literally should he's fight ready he like when you're in the can like that especially that. I mean, I mean, I don't know, bro. Yeah, like, how much thing he was in that, he was in that bitch like Rocky punching meat and shit? No, no. He's probably punches meat. Probably, yeah, in solitary confinement. No, but like, when? I don't think he was like on it like you, like you. Solitary

confinement has to be great because you can just jack off in your cell and not have to worry about your cellmate watching. He was in protective custody for a while, but, which is like protective custody, he's protected. But in those kind of like country club-ass prisons, you have like gear that you can train with. What I'm saying, like, he's not in like maximum security lockup where they don't let you access to weights and stuff because you might hit

someone over the head with a 45 pound plate. He's a country club criminal. Yeah. I mean, like, even. Should you call him live on the pod? Should I? I call. Let me call them. Actually, I don't want to call. That's wild. I don't know if we'd be

allowed to. Would he? Yeah, I don't think that's legal, especially if I will, yeah. We'll call. him after the podcast. Yeah, let's slow. I'll call him off air. Like, yeah. We'll cut this.

I'll let you guys know if like, because he might, I might be able to convince him to actually sign if this podcast, if, after the podcast. So if he does, that'd be huge. But literally the money's right.

Everything's right. The guy's like been training. He just wants, he knows he can kick and knows I have no idea about kickboxing. Honestly, the thing about I actually talked to Devlin. Shout out Devlin, who's been amazing with all the rough and rowdy stuff.

First fight in this fight. Devin was like, want if you want i was like yeah i'll kickbox him because basically just if i get inside on him like i don't give a fuck i'll just box them yeah just like throw some like kick checks yeah he's throwing kicks and then just get in there just fucking put put put him in like you know fighting a fighting a telephone booth but i don't think dave port do you know how to block a kick yeah kind of i don't think you have some i think i think this is important man i said you're training you train and I don't want you to get in there and get your ass with Billy

No no trust me I don't want that to happen So what I want you to do is at least start thinking about Defense for kicks at least No I've been I've been uh I've been in the gym I'm trained with some Albanians Oh fuck can I ask up uptown Can I ask a question why does the money have to be right for him if it's all going Restitution anyways like why is he so fucking weird about the money

In order to get basically to make it worth it going to the judge to get Uh like it has to be a certain amount of his restitution be like hey look this is like we're going to make this much money like I can pay this much of the restitution I thought you meant like he wanted a certain amount of money to like make it worth it in terms of just life in general like he's not getting any of the money anyway who cares okay yeah but it's frustrating hopefully I'm gonna call him sometime tonight and just be like yo dude like it's it's 180 seconds of fighting like no one really because realistically no one gets hurt in 180 seconds of boxing that's the guys who get hurt boxing is late rounds when they really get beat up like really badly like was Jose canseco hurt canseco should never been in the ring yeah i didn't know that at time you know i don't know man i hope this shit happens i'm i hope it happens too my trainers are like my trainers are like really hoping it happens because like they were with me for the first fight now they're seeing me now like

and they're like you've made so much progress since the first time we've met you i shouldn't actually say that because now billy won't even sign definitely if this gets released so beautiful beautiful actually should i fight right man well what's your beef with him nothing i actually think he might get you that that big brer yeah but he's a big dude well he's like he's a little juiced up but that doesn't really help but that doesn't really help you. No, as we saw with Jose. Yeah, the juice, like, the juice just literally gives you more mass that your heart has to

pump blood to, to move. And then, like, after the first flurry, you're, like, dead in the water. Because the lactic acid just has more places to build up. Yeah. Mm-hmm. But he gets you with one of them things. I haven't been on since the live show. I just want to shout out the macro-Dijian who handed me a bag of shrooms.

after afterwards on stage um i was with i was with aryan and pft playing some mini golf and i popped a few of those and god damn yeah it was a good time that was fun that was fun i killed that shit by the way yeah yeah i won yeah i won yeah killed that shit yeah shout out to that uh it's macrodosion yeah yeah sorry macro dosion that sounds better you knew you knew to this it's all good man it's all good Big T. Did you catch what happened with Brown last night? Yeah. What about it?

Thoughts, man. I mean, you're a sports guy. I mean, I mean, we're never going to see that in our lifetimes again. I just thought that was a powerful moment for everybody that loves sports, a sports watching guy. It was cool. I did. I do, I have a teed off about it. Oh.

And it's not about him. It's not about his incredible accomplishment. One of the greatest basketball players ever play the game. I just got to say on the record real quick he's now surpassed Jordan in my opinion and it was before this this little this big ass record breaking performance I think he's the greatest basketball player

that's ever lived by the way and it's hard for me to say because I'm a Jordan Stan but it's to me he did it I don't want to get into this I think there's a two because like this is so overplayed I do think like if you're talking about

guy who is the best at the different aspects of playing basketball. It's probably LeBron, but I think Jordan's, the total is greater than the sum of its parts in, anyway, there was, did you see the picture of, it's from the opposite baseline of LeBron taking the shot, and you see the entire crowd, and every single person, except for Phil Knight sitting courtside, is filming it with their phone, looking at the screen on their phone. And I'm like, this is very, I guess, old man yells at cloud, but I'm like, you paid $2,500 to sit there and witness this thing

that like you can never recreate and you're looking at it through a screen on your phone as it's happening in front of you. I find that insane. Well, now you can recreate it by looking at your phone and just watching the clip. You could watch a much better clip that was filmed on 8K cameras. You got to do it for the gram though. No one's going to know that you were there unless you throw it on your Instagram story. I genuinely believe it's like a real indictment on society like that photo. I really believe that. No, it's true. I mean, every concert you go to just everyone has their phones up the whole time just filming the whole performance. And it's like you're not going to, you're not going to go home and just rewatch that performance on your shitty phone. And when you put

eight, nine clips on your Instagram story, nobody's watching them. Nobody cares. No. You know what's crazy? I think that's going to affect how people like story tell in the future. because they'll get lazier with description because they have physical evidence, like physical images, videos to show people, they won't be able to encapsulate the moment using their words and adjectives.

And like, I think it's going to affect societies. Like, like we won't have as good podcasters because the verbal medium will be like, oh, check this out. Look, look at this. Good.

No one can come. I guess it also depends what you do for your job. Like, I'm a video creator as my job. So like some sporting events, I'm there to make a video about the whole show and the atmosphere. And so like I'll definitely be filming. I'm like, oh, I got to get that shot on camera. And it does, I'll end up making a great vid, but it does kind of take away from my

just like personal experience of it. I'm not just in the moment soaking it up. I'm just constantly thinking, oh, I got to film this. I got to film that. But most of these people just, yeah, they just want to. little highlight real for the Instagram story. I don't know, man. I actually see both sides of this shit, man.

Like, I really, I really, I really, I really am both sides in this. Because I can understand you, hey, man, just put your phone away and enjoy the shit. But you have a very unique angle to a historic event. You know what I mean? Like, like nobody in the world has your angle. That's, that there's something to be said about that. But also, I mean, I do understand how it's like, you know, just, just enjoy it. But it's also like, you can recreate that dopamine when you watch it back years later.

I think it's not like it didn't happen in front of you. Like, so. Yeah, but you were enjoying it still. You could watch the clip on like, you know, YouTube or whatever and have the memory of, yeah, I was right behind the basket, like watching that happen as opposed to you never actually saw it in front of you. You saw it through your phone screen. That's crazy to me. It was happening right there, right 50 feet in front of you. The solution is to watch it with your eyes, but just hold the phone up. But don't be looking at the phone. Would that, would that appease you, Big T, if somebody was

just holding the phone? That fixes it 10%. I can't, I still can't concede that though. You do get a better money's worth if you get the photo, though, because then that like, however much you spent on the seat, like not only do you get the experience in person, but then you can like, show everybody else the experience you can show your kids your kids probably wouldn't care unless yeah I mean so you think that won't happen

again in our lifetime like what if he lives to be 80 and there's a new phenomenon that that like that comes into the league soon do you think it's a record that could be beat in the next 40 years you know it would be fire this would be fire

right it would be fire if somebody started like a thread on Twitter or something like that I said please drop all if you were at the game and you have an angle to LeBron shot please drop all your videos here and then somebody stitched it together to kind of get like a 360 view somehow that would be fire would that be cool would that be dope big season they did somebody did some shit like that that would be fired I'm sure some of the videos look cool but the people who took them didn't see it no but if they made a 3D

model so that you could experience I think they did I did. I think they did see it, man. I think this is old man yells at Cloud. Young man yells at Cloud. Possibly. But I was actually going to say in response to what you said, Donnie, I think I was thinking about it this morning. Everybody talked about Karim's record would never be broken. And now LeBron's probably going to play another two, three years till his son gets in the NBA. So he'll get to 45,000 points maybe. But there's going to be a guy in 20, 25 years who shoots 65 percent from three. Like we see Steph shoot what's what's his career three point percentage 42 43 something like that 43 43 there's there's going to be somebody who comes along in the next 20 years that the shooting is just getting so like watching the thunder who are an ass team watching that game last night they had two guys who went like 10 of 13 from three there's going to be somebody I just think they're young dog they actually have a good squad they might be good in a little bit but but there's going to be guys who start shooting close sort of 50% and then as we get there there's going to be somebody like Steph who just makes I don't know how many three steps made but they're going to

double it it is wild though humans keep on getting better at sports but they aren't like changing biologically you probably have a theory on that well no it's just like real quick I hold on real quick real quick there's no way there's ever going to be a human that shoots 60% from three point you're bugging I think

there is I'm just saying you're bugging 60% from three point that is insanity there's no way no but like coaches are letting young players like shoot don't matter that's that's just probability dog the probability of that happening is

so low dog like ain't no fucking has anyone shot 60% from three in a game sure with over 10 shots of course so why couldn't they consistently do that if it can because you're not playing against nobody you're playing against some of the best I'm not saying that's going to become the norm

but like with the increase There are kids now training to do this From the time they're five years old Dogs, I don't think you understand The jump from 30% to 60% Over a year's average is fucking We're not gonna be alive to see it If it does happen.

We will not be allowed to see that No, but Big T's talking about the jump from 42 to 60 18% from like a top player No, it is a lot It is a lot, it is a lot, but like he's saying a top Think about it. A good, a good, like, Steph Curry is like the best three-point shooter of all time. He shoots 43%, right? A good three-point shooter is probably like 33, right?

That's a good, you're good. So from good to great, it's 10%. You're talking about 18% jump in our lifetime? You know, fucking way. Okay, let's say, let's say there's somebody who can get close to 50. shoot 48, 49%. That's doable. That's still, I don't think we'll see it in our lifetime, but it's...

And it's taking as many as Steph is taking probably more at that point. Like, I think there's going to... Like, shooting is becoming so good that I think there's going to be somebody with the three-point line that might get close and break it. That's tough, bro. 50% is crazy, dog. Crazy.

I don't know. That's a hot take. The thing is, they're letting, like, third graders shoot threes in games like in they're not hitting them consistently but like coaches are allowing it to happen because of step curry i'm serious i like i saw like i'm saying i mean my son's in third grade yeah you're saying my son's in third grade can you hit a three are they shooting they can't really reach bro third grade i may be exaggering but like they're like because of step curry kids are shooting threes from much younger age thinking it's i mean and then those kids are

going to grow up and they're going to be hitting threes with much more experience and even Steph Curry. You're saying it like it's a bad thing, like it's a third grade of throwing a curveball. Like it's not. Right, right. Like who fucking cares? No, I'm saying that it's going to cause kids to shoot threes for longer and thus be better at shooting threes by the time they're Steph Curry's age. Yeah.

Which might be the 60% shooter we're looking at is in third grade right now, chucking up threes. It'll make a boring, you know, grade school basketball game, but when has there ever been an interesting one? It's like in Pop Warner, like, only used to be run game, but then like, you know, spread offenses happened. and then you have kids in fourth and fifth grade throwing the ball like 20 times a game, which is insane for fourth and fifth grade. Yeah. Yeah.

Then you get Patrick Mahomes. But I think that with sports, like, again, and I never played basketball or any of these sports, but I feel like with a sport like basketball, just chucking threes when you're like nine and ten isn't really going to have like any negative effect where if it's like a young kid throwing curveballs or like a pop Warner quarterback throwing like 30 passes a game,

I feel like that could have some sort of detrimental effect later in life. The threes, I think, is like, what's that going to do? Again, I might be wrong. I'm not talking about it from a wear and tear standpoint. I'm saying that they're going to have more experience doing it because they're allowed to do it earlier and be better. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I think that like sports, like athletes are getting better at sports, not because they're physically changing or anything, but because like the stuff's being introduced and train better at a younger age.

So they're able to get more experience with it later. Absolutely. Do you think a human will ever beat the current fastest human alive? Like what's the... Hussein Bolt? Hussein Bolt? Like, do you think humans will just like find ways to get faster and faster? It seems like the human body has to reach a limit of like how fast it can run.

I agree. When it comes to track and objective shit like that, I think there is an absolute limit for human beings. I don't think right now the current world record is it. but I think in the next 100 years we're going to peak athletically because when we were growing up sports was cool as kids but it was never trained to the extent it is now like you got kids you got parents putting their putting their kids in camps and getting hiring coaches in little league oh yeah we were just like yo we're just athletes we just out here just doing it right but you got that specific sport specific training at a very very

very young age, that is going to exponentially grow the athletic ability of a kid, but also I do think there's a limit to things like objective, like speed and power and stuff like that. But as far as like basketball, I think the skill set is just going to continue to enhance and it's going to be funer to watch. So I wrote a blog about the top 10 fastest 100 meter dashes. And out of the top 10, nine of them have been accused of using steroids. Out of the 10. Oh, most track ethics do steroids.

I had a home boy used to run. He was like, hey, everybody juicing. That's what he said. The only one who hasn't been accused is Usain Bolt. So juicing can make you faster, too. Yeah. Okay. So that Italian guy who I think is like the first European by nationality to ever break

the top 10 fastest ever he was accused of doping because like his trainer who had him on is a bodybuilder and his like his trainer's side job is basically to get guys jacked and train for bodybuilding tournaments

but like he's just been doing performance enhancing with this guy if you remember Lamont Marcel Jacobs was the guy who broke 10 on 100 meter and was he the first one?

in a long time since you're saying oh oh um but he was doping like all these guys have been accused of doping so i think chemically enhanced i don't think we've reached the highest potential they said that the it's basically uh tall guys need to get stronger hip flexers to run a faster 100 meter dash okay and then what was the other one my hips don't flex at all it's the worst part of my body yeah hip mobility? Yeah. That was a bane of my...

I had zero hip mobility. I would have won three Chinese Super Bowls if I could flex my hips. You're talking to the Chinese league JJ Watt right here. I know. I can't believe Arian didn't know that until the live show.

Yeah, that's great. Oh, dude, our listeners don't know. Go ahead, stun on them a little bit, Donnie. I won a Super Bowl in China with the Shanghai Warriors. We beat the Shanghai Titans. also took down the chung-do panda men the what the chung-do pandam oh it was chung-due panda man pan what's a panda man they had a sick logo it was one of the coolest logos i've seen i want to just

start like making merch with that logo i actually had a t-shirt with it at some point but yeah the chung-doo panda man and our ref was on a fucking segue scooter and smoking smoking sigs during the game which is just like cruising around the field um you saw a lot of absurd shit out there they were going up and down the field while plays were happening on a segue uh yeah one of them was pandam is just a half man half panda i guess so the chungdu panda man that was the one team that had a former d1 football player he played at university of michigan and he got some sort of scholarship to go out to China and play in this league as well as coached Chinese youth. Yeah, that's a, if you look up the logo, it's so cool.

The Chungdu Panda Man. I mean, loosely related, I was watching Kung Fu Panda with my, with my little daughter this weekend. Kung Fu Panda 3 might be the most under, one of the most underrated kid movies. Maybe ever. That shit is fires. by seeing Kung Fu Pan at three? I didn't know there was a two.

Yes. I did see one. It was enjoyable. One and two are really good. I would imagine three is good too. Wushu finger. Mooshy. Mooshy finger holes.

No, Wushi, Wushi, who's got to get that right. We got to get everything. Yeah, yeah. But like,

it has some of the dope, just the host series has some of the dopest, like, isms ever in life. Like, Master Uguay. Are they, Are they like Chinese proverbs?

I mean, I don't know. It's good writing. I couldn't tell you. But like Master Ugoi is talking to the panda and he goes like, one often meets his destiny on the road he takes to avoid it. Like that's hard. Like just like filled with gems like that. Mad Uguayisms. Yesterday is history.

Tomorrow is a mystery. Today is the present. or today is a gift that's what they call it the present that's what i learned in kung fu pandas yeah that was one of the that's one of the lighter ones but spy kids had the the the OG like this is way too philosophical for a kids movie it was like does god stay in heaven because he too is scared of what he created and it was it was steve bushemi talking about like the little like monsters he created Jesus.

Steve Bouchemy, I thought it was Sylvester Stallone. No, no, it's Steve Boucherby. Yeah, that's a good one. Oh, wait, I got to find that clip. Can we play that on the podcast? I don't know. I don't know. But it's just, just wait.

It's the one with like, yeah, the thumbs running around. Yeah, the thumbs are running around. And like the gorilla tarantula thing running around. So my kids rules. That was the first movie I ever saw in 3D. Bro, listen to somebody's, listen to somebody's master Ugui quotes, bro. Your mind is like water, my friend. When it is agitated, it becomes difficult to see.

But if you allow it to settle, the answer becomes clear. Come on, fam, he's spitting. Here's another one. If you only do what you can do, you will never be more than you are. That thing is hard, man. I'm trying to think if these are all actually Master Uguer. Yeah. I'm sure.

I'm sure. No, this is Master Ugui. This is, is Master Ugui a real person? No, he's a turtle, dog. I know. Wait. No, but I'm just wondering if they, if they, like, named, yeah, Master Ugui is Master Ugui. He's no one else. I'm just, like, trying to think if they, like, named, like... Look at this. Here's another one. Here's another one. When the path you walk always leads back to yourself, you'll never get anywhere. Oh, he was talking to, uh, this was on Kung Fu Panda 3. He says, he said, when will you realize the more you take the less you have? That's hard.

Master Ugui. Oh, this is the, okay, this is the last one. He says, um, uh, he's talking to, uh, Shifu. He's talking to Master Shifu and Master Shifu saying, he's trying to convince Ugui that the panda isn't the dragon warrior, right? And, uh, and, uh, he was basically saying, like, you can't control shit. And he was like, but if I take this seed, I'm planted to the ground, I control where it grows. and then

or this peach and then he said nope I fucked that whole shit up never mind just scrapped that whole thing just scrapped the whole thing I fucked the whole quote up don't worry

but it's a good quote it's a good quote though so yeah so Donnie is the only one on this podcast of the Super Bowl ring Oh shit I forgot to bring it down

I was just up of my parents' place I was gonna bring that down to New York I almost had So right after I won the Super Bowl ring I went to a friend's wedding and I got pretty banged up and I guess in the night like I put it on my bedside table

it got knocked over at some point over the night and fell into the trash and then for a solid like day and a half two days I couldn't find it and I was devastated and then I saw a glass that had fallen off the bedside table and I was like there was a trash can next to it and I was like what if the ring fell off too dug through the trash and found it wait so you had a glass that was falling on the floor for two days. Hey, that entire night's a blur. All I know is I woke up and my ring was in the trash.

Almost lost it for good. Is it real? Is it like real made it in real shit? It's made with real silver. I mean, it's a sick design. We actually had to pay for it. Everybody on the team had to pay for their ring. I assume if you win the real

Super Bowl, you just get the ring. It was maybe like 250 or something like that. I'll shoot you a photo. I'll shoot you a photo of it. Lab-grown diamonds? No. They could have been.

It's, they'd make a ton in China. I'm not opposed to that. It's better than blood diamonds. Yeah. I mean, lab diamonds need to, we need it. This whole diamond industry is like terrible. They've been artificially inflated. Yeah.

I mean, there's a lot of pressure. Like when some people get married, they feel so much pressure to spend like 15, Like, I've heard of people spending 15 to 20K on the engagement ring. And it's like... Like a third, don't they say? Three months salary. Yeah, they say three months salary. That's all like a scam that was started by K jewelers.

Like, dude, if you marry that girl, like, you could put that money towards a house. Like something you'll have for your entire life. Why is it proposed with a house? I feel like that. Or you could get me a fucking huge rock. I don't... Like what? Which one would you rather want, Maddie?

If I want to say some, look, if anyone's listening to this that wants to marry me, I want a huge, you want a huge rock. Like, wouldn't you rather start your married life with like a little financial stability? I can have both. I'm hoping that I'm going to get married when I'm financially stable. I don't want to get married tomorrow. I'm not financially stable yet. I want to get married when I can have the house and the ring. God forbid I have both. God forbid I have my cake and eat it too. Just saying, you can find beautiful rings for below 10K. I do. I help Kelly Keeggs with on the other. I do. I help Kelly Keeggs with on the other. I. line and we were talking about this on there, I would be a very, very fine with a lab grown diamond. I'm not into diamonds enough to know what the difference would be. If my, if my fiance, if my future fiance never told me, I don't think I'd ever find out. So I don't really care. But I would like it to be a substantial size. Sue me. Lab grown diamonds are more perfect than naturally occurring diamonds. What is, what's the word? Uh, symmetric, more symmetrical. I think they're clearer. They're clear. Yeah. The clear is so. The clarity is higher. I mean, Yeah, but I want a...

Now if you, yeah. Like, who saw Blood Diamond? Yeah. Yes. The beer. Never seen it. It's called a flaw. Now, if you play, played pro football, then I think the woman's going to be expecting a certain size ring.

There was a correlation that the more that's spent on the ring, the less successful the marriages. Ooh. I like that stat. I'll look it up. So, hmm. No, I just want a nice ring. Big, nice. A huge wedding?

No. I rather have a huge wedding. I also have no. Then buy your wife a huge ring. Yeah. I've never been the girl that's like, oh, I have every part of my wedding planned out. So I don't know. But it terrifies me.

A wedding terrifies me. I don't like thinking about being vulnerable in front of a public audience. Like you have to walk down. You have to kiss someone in front of your parents and like your aunts and uncles. That's disgusting. Get it out of my face. Well, it's not like a full on makeout session. But some people, I mean, I wouldn't, but some people do.

bro what or like doing my first dance in front of my mom and dad that's so embarrassing that like your first dance is going to be with your dad no but like you do you do one you do one like with your dad but you also do one with your husband

or wife you do dad you do dad first because your dad is giving you away yeah but then I got to do with my husband and that's so embarrassing you're slow dance white people don't got rhythm anyway so nobody's expecting much little fox trot It's everything about weddings That's why I've never thought about it

Everything about a wedding Like is it scares me I don't like like like It says me talking on a podcast But I don't like that attention Like the eyes No one sees me when we do these things Like I don't want people

beaten down their eyes Like what if they don't like my dress? We need a mad cam Just a super close up on your face She puts it on every Every now and hold on hold on If you can't dance with your pops and the love of your life or your moms in front of people that you love, like, you need to check the wedding guest list, dog. They probably guess you got people that you ain't fucking with.

So don't invite nobody that you don't fuck with and it's all good. That's why I wouldn't want a huge wedding because, like, I feel like a lot of people that have these huge like 400, 500 person weddings. Again, you may know and love all those people very much. But like, no, I am not comfortable. Yeah, I'm not comfortable with 500 people, let alone enough to. dance and kiss and like express my truest love to someone and like oh my god like imagine doing your vows in front of like your second removed great aunt she's never even met you like oh yeah but she's heard about you that's what i'm saying and now she's hearing about how much i

love my husband because think about your second your second removed first wait what what you said i just i just made up but like let's say it's like your mom's cousin like your mom your mom's cousin grew up like saw your mom at holidays they're probably like friends like they had more affinity for each other than siblings well i bet she was at my mom's wedding they didn't have to live with each other and then they found out oh that person had a daughter and then they're like always thinking about they're like oh like my cousin's daughter and there's like oh my cousin's daughter's getting married i finally get to see them for an occasion like those are things that keep families together uh it doesn't that shit listen bro

if you're going to do a wedding this is advice to anybody out there's going to do wedding you're going do a wedding do a destination wedding that's what i'm doing and then you pay and then the you on the on the invitations is you pay your way and then we'll get like all the food and stuff is on us when you get here right that way you cut out all the people who really don't want to go right to see y'all right so then it's like if i travel to see you it's like i love you dog so i'm going to spend this money and i'm going to it's going to be out of my dime and i'm going to go see my people get married but the people that just kind of like, I mean, we like them, but do we like them $800 worth? You know, and you cut all that shit off.

The wedding ends up being like 40 to 50 people. And those 40 to 50 people that you really rock with and your wife really rocks with. Then it's just a party. Then it's just a dope-ass party. You know what I'm saying? Life hack. You're welcome. That's what I'm doing.

We're getting married close to Dublin, August 12th. And yeah, I invited a lot of people sort of like assuming or hoping that like half of them wouldn't be able to come. I haven't gotten a lot of nose yet, but it's still pretty early. Wait till them, you know what I said? Wait till they did you guys book. Hey, just reminded you guys, but I just start to dwindle, dog, I'm telling you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, it is a big commitment. It is. And then, yeah, because you got to buy plane tickets and you got to buy hotel rooms. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's good $1,500, $1,500, right? They're not everybody willing, like, do I love you $1,500?

Yes. And I guess most of the weddings in Ireland don't know. Don't have open bars, but I'm like, we got to have an open bar. If my friends are going to be paying like a thousand bucks to come out here. And I feel like just you, like as a person that I've met before, like you would have a fun open bar wedding. Yeah. Yeah. This wedding sounds awesome.

And I bet I met your family say too. Like you guys need to have an open bar wedding. I think it's even crazy. Nobody on the podcast got an invite to Donnie's wedding. I wasn't going to say it. I wasn't going to say it. I may have sent PFT an invite. Is he going?

Well, yeah, I think he may be the only one from the company currently invited. But, hey, if I start to get some nose, that opens up space for all of you guys. Having nothing to do with Donnie's wedding, I was just thinking about how many people do I, would I spend $1,500 to go to their wedding? And I think it's two. But even then, I wouldn't be happy. happy about it. Also, then you'd probably be in that wedding, right? If it's these two people. Yeah. Yeah. But but 1500 is a lot. No one in this room. I see it. No. But you can use it as an excuse. Like, have you ever wanted to visit Ireland? Not even a little bit. Okay. All right. Really? Dublin rocks.

Yeah. Yeah. I absolutely want to visit Ireland. I don't know. Oh, it's wedding season. Wait, wait. What, what, what, what season is it over there doing that? Is it? It's the same. Same. Same. Same. That's Australia latitude that's right uh yeah so uh wedding season absolutely was april may juneish yeah i don't know when an official wedding season is is that just that's just the summer no when's your when's your what's your wedding when's your wedding when's you when it's 12 so it's in the summer okay is that is that golf and not in ireland oh it's being held on a golf course see some of the greenest shit in the world though that's yeah fire 10 friends are a allowed to play for free. So if, wow, if we don't fill that 10, Aryan, I'll, I'll hit you up

and you can come. Tell me that invite. I'll come just, just for the golf, though, and I'll definitely show up in the way and fade it. Let's do it. No problem with that. It's, uh, it's actually, it's a Jack Nicklaus course. Have you, have you ever heard of him? Niclaus. Niclaus. Yeah, I, I guess it's, uh, I, like, I didn't know who he was, but I guess he's a big deal in the golfing world. Yeah. Yeah, I think the second greatest call for a whole time. Okay. I've only read his name before and I once had to say it on the podcast.

The Klaus. It's Nicholas, but it's literally, I looked it up. They anglicized his pronunciation, but not his writing of his name. So just, huh. The Kloster. No, I'm what you. I'm what you, Billy. It's not a mistake I would have made because, no, I would have never looked into the etymology of it.

So it's not a mistake I would ever made. But that's the most understandable mistake I think you've ever made that you got roasted for. That makes sense. And plus, he doesn't play anymore. So where would I have heard him? Well, no, he's... I don't watch golf.

Now he's very famous for designing courses. Oh. Yeah. He's like... I mean, if you're into golf at all, you know Jack Nicholas. Yeah. He was Tiger Woods before there was a Tiger Woods. Like he was like, yo, this dude's the greatest golfer ever

until Tiger Woods came. Is he the Golden Bear? Yeah. I think he's just some kind of bear That's a sweet nickname The golden bear Yeah I love that

And why does he have a drink name after him Like Arnold Palmer Take a couple golden bears Golden Bear would be a great drink too Ginger ale actually Let's make it right now What would be in golden bear drink Ginger ale and whiskey

Yeah I think that's already a drink What is it? A ginger whiskey I don't know A whiskey ginger Like that's one of my favorite drinks Golden ginger ale whiskey Would that even be

That wouldn't even be gold though It would be just like a dark brown Yeah it has to with like pineapple juice or something Whiskey and that might be too gold That might be too light Let's get honey involved I feel like honey Yeah I like that

Yeah I like that I like that Can you think there are a honey type of Honey whiskey Mead Yeah Mead is fermented honey Ginger ale

And Jack Daniel's honey Honey That's yeah Jack Daniels honey and ginger ale That's a golden bear. Let's try that. Yeah, let's, let's, I'm gay.

We should make a macrodosing drink and sell it. We just got to be green. Yeah, it's got to be, that'd be a class. Absent. We'll put absente to them up. Let's like to New Amsterdam. Let's get a deal. Be the next pink witness.

Well, that'd be sick. Actually, I'm actually about the kind of lit, actually. With the extra wormwood. Yeah. Instead of a worm, it's a like a shroom at the bottom. They're like, no, wormwood's the, it's like the hallucinogen and absent. So it's like Macro dose

Elixir Potion We should make a potion Ooh It has to be called elixir The elixir Macro dose and elixir I like that shit

A green A green drink That sounds like the type of stuff That gets you arrested You drink No it's gonna be illegal dog I know it's gonna be illegal But no like

After you drink it It just like makes you go Little like Crazy Yeah I mean apparently That's kind of like Just a myth that that absinth

makes you hallucinate Like apparently that's not entirely true Well in like the olden days The old O-L-E days When they're like We're making gin and shit And gin used to literally just be like bathtub gin They used to throw a bunch of shit in there

And then it was like mold And like fungus would get around Like people used to trip balls off at gin And like absence was probably made the same way So like they're just It was just dirty shit that made you blind and, like, killed Edward Allen Poe. You ever heard how he died?

He drank rubbing alcohol or? Edward Allen Poe death. Like, they found him running around the streets, tripping out. Wait, no, is this the right guy? Wormwood, it says that high doses, it can be a convulsant, which does not sound like a psychedelic. It just sounds like something that gives you a seizure. It was sudden and involuntary muscle contractions, consultant.

Yeah, that does not sound. Because I looked up absence. Absence will not make you hallucinate. This is probably the most widely held misconception about absence. Nothing in Absent will make you hallucinate. Never has, never will. There is a chemical found in Wormwood. Absinth's primary flavoring called Thugone.

What a cool name. Thugone that's known to be a convulsant at extremely high doses. So we can make a little absent macrodosian drink, bro. Is it legal to make absente? Actually, I think absent might be. Why would it be illegal? I think there's certain absent that's illegal in the U.S. Yeah, and I think that's just because the alcohol content's too high.

Absent. Absent is wild. I mean, it's just like very strong, so you only need a little bit. It's kind of good. I don't like hate the taste. I've never had it. In general, in a general sense, absinth is legal to purchase and drink. It was originally banned in the United States in 1912 as well as in several European

in countries around the same time. In 2007, it was legalized in the U.S. with regulation in regards to the use of Thujone. So it's not absence. It's ThuJone. ThuJone is the bad guy here. No, let's look up ThuJone. ThuJone is a chemical compound resemble Amps.

Oh, so that's the alleged stimulant and psychoactive effect due to the ThuJone. That's what they think. Acts on the neurotransmitter Gabba as an entire. Okay, so. Ooh, I think it's convulsant. Is it the same ingredient and? salvia? Thugone.

Oh, wait, wait. I think they have, I think Thugone is in salvia. Okay, pharmacology. Thugion was thought to act similarly to THC on the cannabinoid receptors. This has been proven false.

Wait, wait. I had a homeboy that took Salvia one time and made me never want to take that shit, dog. He was bugging. Like, he looked like a tweaker dog.

Like, he was like, shaking and like talking and tongue it was like oh yeah it's it's insane and that stuff's legal yeah i'll never take that shit though oh i had someone dm me and say that they took 50 uh they took 50 cratum pills a day and they're like yeah i got addicted to cratum i can't stop we talked about cratum a couple times in the show this guy says like yeah i started taking cratum for anxiety and now i'm taking 50 grams and one gram pills a crate him a day and i can't stop. I take it four times a day, each with a cup of coffee is like, I'm just like, what the

fuck? Yeah, you actually feel that stuff. I've tried it if you, they sell those little, like, cretum shots. If you drink one of those, you'll be feeling something. I'm too scared to even try it because, like. Yeah. KB got addicted, I think. Just take Ltheonine if you're feeling anxious.

Notice the second time I heard KB got addicted to a whole different substance. What would he be? It was creative both times. Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. okay he's off the cratum he's off the cratum he's off the cratum no now kb stands here and it cratum boy no great so so so cratum is an anxiety pill um it's acts on the opioid receptors apparently yeah so i guess a lot of people have used it to get off of pain killers and in that

way it's great because i think it is safer than like doing oxycodone and stuff so people have used it yeah people have used it as like like a safe alternative to painkillers to wean themselves off of pain killers. But now it seems like people who have never done painkillers are just starting to do create them and then and then getting hooked on that. Like maybe it can work the other way. Maybe it can also lead you to taking painkillers. Yeah.

I mean, because everyone's CBD, everyone's like, oh, CBD. This is a new CBD. I mean, I think the real problem is all the anxiety in the world today. In the world today. I think our cortisol levels are just like. You know how people who live in cities have higher cortisol levels? I didn't know that, but yeah, and that probably factors into anxiety. But, like, I think now everybody has, like, city level, cortisol levels because of social media, the internet, and it's just tweaking everybody out.

Yeah. So. COVID. A lot of people got super anxious about COVID. I actually had a pretty relaxing quarantine. During quarantine, I kind of, like, I'm not a preparer. type but like always had plans for apocalypses be it zombie or whatnot so it's kind of like i know what to do buy a bunch of non-perishable food gather supplies go towards a large fresh water source just chill there

and i was chilling i had chickens i was like trying to build like self-sufficient you would have been good sources yeah it was there's a good time in my barn yeah now let's play this let's play this chicken thing out really quick okay let's say there is a zombie apocalypse and you got your chicken farm or whatever all right so obviously you want them to lay eggs right yeah okay so they're laying eggs providing eggs but how much eggs do you get from your chickens per week we were so depends on how many i at i had a small amount at my peak i had about six hens and they're laying about one or two a day so you were We were getting everywhere from six to 12 eggs a day throughout the week.

So they were, they were prime layers. I had to give a lot away because I had too many eggs. So, okay, let's say. At the least every two weeks, you get in a dozen and two dozen at the most. No, no, that's, that's, give a take, give a take. Half a week I was coming out with two dollars with two days. Oh, okay. Okay, okay, perfect.

Okay, so plenty eggs. Eggs are a plenty of, okay. So how many, how much do you, okay, say, I'm going to eat these eggs versus I got to start replacing like a chicken that I'm going to eventually consume. Oh, so that was, so if you wanted to, I had a rooster, he was kind of a shitty rooster because he couldn't keep away the hawks. So he was a, he was a, he was a, I raised, I blame myself because I raised him from a chicklet, like from a little chick. Yeah, you were a soft parent. he wasn't he wasn't built to like fight hawks he wasn't about that life like i had a dog which

like would would you know his excrement would ward off a lot of like the coyotes foxes they'd be like there's a big dog here and i'd let him out at night he'd sort of they would you know i'd fence them in so there was good like security but the only part was is the hawks are coming in from the top and owls too they were coming up you know they would shoot down and basically the rooster was supposed to protect usually people who don't put netting over the top they get like a goose gooses are good

like livestock protectors for not poultry for poultry specifically but focus though yeah I'm asking you replacement factor how many chickens or how many eggs do you not eat in order to replace

because you go on if you if we're in a zombie apocalypse this chicken fire mar be one of the best things I've heard actually because you just always generating some kind of food whether it be chicken or or eggs have you ever killed the chicken well i unfortunately one got mauled pretty bad by a hawk and i had to put it down oh i had to kill one for food one time i had to i had to saw off its head well yeah you just um no i used like a saw i thought i was going to be you didn't kill it first no they you sawed off its head alive yeah that's fucked up the family i was with they just like oh you they held it that

I thought it was just going to be a shop, but they broke out like a saw, and I had it, it was like, and I had to just saw it. Why didn't you break its neck first? You're supposed to ring its neck? I didn't know what I was doing.

I was staying with a family in Africa, and they were like, it's time for you to kill the chickens. And I saw like a six-year-old kill a chicken the night before. So I was like, all right, I got to have the balls to do this.

If you can't kill a chicken, then you can't kill shit. Yeah, because a lot of people eat a ton of meat have never killed an animal. So I feel like, You have to do that at some point. It helps connect you to the food.

But, yeah, it wasn't. I don't think I could kill a chicken, dog. Well, you would rather kill a chicken than a cow. I can't. I don't think I can't kill anything, honestly, Doug. Like, I'm, I'm, when it comes. It's time to go vegan, then. It's time to go vegan.

When it comes wrapped up in that package, nice, I'll eat the shit out of that meat. But if I got to kill this, Nick, I don't, I don't know if I can do it. I mean, we got to go pheasant hunting one time because you'll really enjoy it. Yeah. It's fun. This with guns. It's competitive. You blast.

You stay the fuck away from me. I got to go. Okay. Grab them. Yeah. But, yeah. So basically the replacement factors, like, let's say I'd lose a hen. I'd probably, if I, honestly,

chickens are pretty cheap. And at the time, replacing a hen was like 10 bucks. And you could find it on, like, on Craigslist, like, meet up with a guy in a Walmart or a tractor supply and just pick up the new hen. maybe exchange even like a baby rooster if they need a rooster um but if i had to i'd do what i did the first time and put them under a heat lamp and raise the chicklets uh the little baby chicks and like see which ones turn out to be roosters which ones turns out to be hens and then i guess raise them to decent maturity you'd have to keep the roosters away from each other because they'd fight

but just like once the the chicks got to a point where the roosters either start fighting then I take the roosters out and probably kill those, use those for food, and then use the other ones, the hens, and you make them lay. Yeah, I think if some shit ever pop off, I'm just going to get me a little chicken farm dog. That makes sense. Chickens work. And now, today we have some special guests, Johnny Pine Class and Dirty Water Dawn, the star of sewer divers on Discovery Channel 9 p.m. on Sundays, check it out.

It is a great show. And they're also the ones who took us to the bottom of the East River. Johnny Pint Glass was like probably the most experienced diver there. He was the one who was officially training us. And, yeah, Dirty Water Don had a close call a week after we dove of him. So we're going to hear about that and then just talk diving in general. Yeah, it was actually a great interview. Starts a little slow, but by the end, you're going to never want to turn this off.

It was an awesome one of my favorite interviews of all times. to be honest. Yeah. Check it out. Those guys can shoot the shit for hours. Yeah. Creatious Union blue-collar guys just shooting shit. Yeah.

I told people that video was like the bro-yest, just like guys being dude video I've ever made. And it was fun, you know, just to be getting back in the locker with the boys again. It's just a bunch of dudes on a boat. Where else it's just guys being dudes on a boat? Yeah. Guys on a boat.

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even if you bought tickets with game time before. All right. Now we're welcoming on Dirty Water Don and Johnny Pike Glass, aka the legend, aka Johnny Santiago, aka the head dive instructor of our Bone Rush expedition. And a leading dive instructor of the Northeast. Guys,

it's great to have you on. These guys, if you can't tell Donnie and I trust these guys a lot because we literally put our lives into their hands and they put us at the bottom of the Easter And brought us back up, most importantly. That's the most important part. Well, you came back up.

Yeah. I'm proud of you for that. Appreciate it. But then we heard, like, a week after our dive, Dirty Water Dawn had a close call with some decompression sickness. Yeah, it was a touch and go there. I was a saturated diver. I was diving every day at 60 feet.

And then this one particular day, we were at Slack Tide. And the current came in with a vengeance. Where you guys felt down there, that hurricane-like rush, that was at five and a half knots this particular day it was seven I went from around 70 feet of sea water to surface in under 10 seconds I swung like a pendulum when it just shot right up and I was wearing weight I had I mean we followed all the rules and the protocols and the safety regulations you know we have a good team of divers that understand the safety protocols and we are executing those no problem and it's just one of those things where you know stuff happens so that's what they call the bends right correct yes when you when you when you eyes too fast. Causes like the nitrous oxide in your blood to expand? Yes, the residual nitrogen in your body gets trapped in between the soft tissue. Jesus. It's extremely painful. But you didn't feel any pain when you first got out. No. So I got to land and I was a little nauseous, a little, a little disoriented, but I just chalked up to the rough seas from the boat

right back. I got back in the truck. My brother John drove us home. I was playing on my phone. So again, I just chalked up to being on my phone, driving in the car. I got home that night and I had some pain at my side. But again, mechanical, you hit rocks down there. It happens all the time to us, bumps and bruises. So from there, I went to bed, woke up around 6 a.m. to get the kids to school. And immediately something was wrong.

I'm like, this doesn't feel right. So I reached out to Johnny, and I was like, yo, what do you think? He's like, ace bandage, ice compact, make sure it's not a rib injury and do alternating ice and heat and everything I'm supposed to do with the mechanics. mechanical injury. So around lunchtime, you say, Johnny, I called you back. Yeah, I called him back around lunch on 11, 12 o'clock. I was him and in and Han. A lot of pain and the pain was radiating through my side of my right lung and then also on the top of my shoulder. So I no longer thought it was a mechanical injury. Now I'm concerned. So I'm calling John off the hook like a pissed off

girlfriend trying to figure out what can we do via telephone conference to how you can walk me through this because he's much more knowledgeable on the academics part of diving not only this the diving aspect but he's also going on the academic end so I was picking his brain picking his brain so finally around at six o'clock at night I couldn't take the pain anymore and I drove myself to the nearest medical center and they like I went in damn your claps and they called the ambulance and they had they rushed me to a hack and sack and medical holy shit And now you went and met him at the hospital, right? Yeah, that was, he was there for a while.

Like, I was texting him, I sent him first in Neurological, like, Navy table, basically. It's just a diagnosis that you do a quick neuro on him, see what his, how he's feeling, what his body symptoms are. And they basically, it's paperwork to make sure that it's a decompression sickness symptom. And I was sending it to him, and I said, hey, you need to do this, this and this. And I got no responses. So I wound up calling him, and he was like, I'm going in for a chest x-ray. And then that was it. I got radio silence.

and his phone died which is crazy because that was kind of the point where he could have died you know what I mean so yeah

then he eventually I get a call from his father and his father's like legend he needs you to come down here right now and I'm like what

and then he got on the phone and he sounded like crap like he was like panting deep real deep fatigue you know and I'm like man he sound like shit and I was like

I'll be right there and it was raining dude and I went up I went up driving up it was like an hour and a half away And when I get there, he's, you know, it's exactly what you think's happening. They're not really taking care of him. And he's just laying there dealing with life, you know.

And I've been bent before myself, so it's excruciating. Did you actually find like a lump of, a lump of air, like in his back? So I had a bulge in my center of mass that was coming up. The legend pointed out to the doctor and staff there that not only am I out of shape, which I appreciate that, you're correct. I said you looked like melted ice cream. Yeah, well, thank you. He pointed out my physical appearance, isn't the normal melted ice cream, if you will,

that it was hemorrhaging and bulging out of my chest. And then after that, they came in with an ultrasound machine. Did the scan, came back with a, was a DCS 2? A DCS 2. Which is decompression sickness, but type 2 is just the cost. Times 2. Okay. From there, we were, I was laying there.

at that moment before he gets there, before I even called him. And they weren't taking this serious. They didn't know how to diagnose it. They weren't prepared for it. Because frankly, who the hell goes to the doctor with decompression sickness in the better New York area? Yeah.

Yeah. So I was, like, when he got there, I had like a breath of fresh air. Finally, because he demanded I get more liquids. They gave me one bag of IV. They weren't doing what they were supposed to sitting upright. Yeah. Which was radiating the pain to my shoulder.

So after he came in and blatantly disrespecting me to calling me a melted ice cream. from there he took the reins and was like the doctoring staff there and the nurses and from there was it a half an hour 45 minutes they got me out of there yeah like I basically told them I was like he needs to be in an IV bag 100% oh 2 I was like you guys know the rules like it's decompression sickness like you learned that in medical school but they didn't know the rules they obviously that was the problem that's probably like a one day class that most people forget yeah I mean if you don't go through it all the time then it's easy to miss yeah and it's it's hard to describe a pain like that so their immediate reaction to these days with most medical is, ah, just giving them some aspirin ibuprofen, lytocene patch, they prescribe them. And I said, don't take any of that. Like, you mask the numbness in certain parts of your body with stuff like that, obviously, and you need to know where the pain is.

So when you get treated on a decompression table in a chamber, then you lose the, you get the feeling back. If you numb it down, then you might not know when you miss it. And that could be the difference between being in a recompression chamber for four hours to, you know, next day. I did five hours. So did they have one of those chambers at the hospital? Not Hackensack.

I had to get many vacked from Hackensack, Marini Medical, which is in Hackensack, New Jersey, to Jacoby. Which they didn't want to do either. Yeah. They basically told us that doctor had said that he wasn't going to take him as a patient because they were worried about some swelling in his lungs. I was like, no shit. I was like, he obviously is diving and hurt himself.

But I was like, you guys need to move this along. Like it's been 24 hours. He really pressed the issue of, we need to, the time censors. I was like, I'll take them then because you don't have them in I on IVs or O2 anyway. Yeah. I just put him in my truck and I'll just drive them there. Yeah. And he goes, well, he might not take you at the door.

I was like, all right. Fuck your hypocrite. Go, fuck it. And then that's, we got him on the phone. Okay. How common would this sort of like injury be to like a northeast or metro area hospital? Not, well, we were not very common. When I left there, they had me sign a waiver stating that they can use this incident as a

teaching manner to teach their doctor and their staff because they have in the operations at the time they've been open they've never dealt with it that was the first case of DCS within their hospital and when you have the bends the worry is that one of these nitrogen bubbles gets into the brain and kills you right heart yeah or the heart yeah they had to tap my my artery which I know the tattoos is a big surprise I don't like needles so the IV is it's uphill battle for me so they gave me that and they told me how to tap my artery to see what kind of nitrogen was in my blood and they wanted right off the tap and I was like oh this is terrible so they came they tap my artery yeah and they came back with nitrogen in the blood I'm not going to lie I said some

few choice words done I was like a fudge darn it you know something like that and then they put you in the decompression chamber which looks like where they had ET yes like when they find him when it's like the decontamination unit they uh we went there went to that that hospital at jacobi they were in a treatment on a table five and uh the doctor was hard-pressed on table five. And the operator of that chamber, Johnny talked to him. We walked in. He's like, we're commercial divers. This is what it is. This is the problem. Treat him on table six. And he was like, sounds good to me. Disregard what the doctor said. Yeah, the doctor was very adamant. He didn't want me in the room. You know, like you never want someone that knows it because you're

the doctor. Yeah. I get it. I respect it. But you're wrong. And usually when I voice my opinion about something, it's because I'm 100% right. So I'm going to send it all the way. And he, He's like, ah, well, we're worried about your fever. It's like, has nothing to do with the pain in his shoulder. There's nothing to do with the numbness or the time lapse from when you got out of the water to now, which is all that stuff's important. When you came up, your assent rate to surface is important. You actually need to express all of that to them, which they didn't communicate from hospital to hospital. Which, I was on the phone with you.

I had to interrupt you. I was on the phone with you. I first gave the nurse all the stuff because he was walking me through it. My first got on location, tell them this, tell them this, tell them this, tell them this. And I'm like, this, this, this. And they're like, yeah, go sit down. I'm like, I don't have time for this. And like, go sit down.

And you literally don't have time for that. Like, it's the Navy standard of the Navy divers that came up with these dive tables. Like, they went through it. They're called the Navy Experimental Unit. So they're the guys that rode bicycles underwater with breathing O2, bicycles with a breathing acetylene. Like they went through gases to make sure that no one, what you can survive on, what mixes are good, who's, you know, what kills you, what doesn't kill you.

think you needed a class to know not to breathe acetylene underwater? Like I get the pitch, but do you really need to know do that, you know? For those that don't know, I don't even know what that is. It's a flammable gas. You use you in using cutting torches. So either oxygen and acetylene, oxygen, and propylene, or you have oxygen and, what's the one barbecue grills?

Propane. Yeah. So they're just cutting torches. For underwater welding and stuff? It's for most topside will. Topside cutting and burning. You cut steel beams with that. So it's like when the guy's holding that little torchhead, it's like this big. puts flame to it. That's what that is. That's the gas they're using. I find it odd that these rules, as they say, they're written in blood, that you would need someone with a high education to say, you know what? I wonder if we can breathe a settling. And let's do it on a 10 speed.

Let's make it interesting. I don't even a thought. Underwater. Yeah, underwater. It's crazy. Someone's got to be the guinea pig. I mean, that's what the Navy runs, basically. So, like, I respect those tables as those guys died writing them up, you know, so we take it seriously. And they have a certain percentage of guys that, like, it's a rare case when it goes over. feel symptoms within the first half hour to, it could be immediate, like before you even make it to surface, you'd be feeling the symptom. But usually when it's the first half hour, you're near a chamber, you get kind of treated. But he went way beyond that. So, and I think there was a standard somewhere that I read that said it was like 1% of people actually get to survive

off that way. I'm, I'm a man's man. What I'm saying is, you're welcome. Yeah. Oh, I didn't say thank you. I'm my apologies. But hey, yeah. Thank you. Thank you for saying my life. Appreciate you. You went in the chamber. You came out and maybe two, days later you were chugging beers with me and billy i i sit my beers like a classy sir oh yeah we weren't chugging him but you were you were out at the bar with me and billy a couple days later if i'm going to die miles will go to bang right yeah i don't know if he should have been at a bar with me and billy well now my doctor knows thank you john i appreciate that so uh since we left the water with you guys you've still been looking for bones yes how's that how's that going

it's cold it's cold and i almost died i don't you heard that that i don't know with the whole 15 mid-segment before that. We don't really care about that. What about the bones? The bones. It's funny because you were the one who said someone's going to die looking for bones. I said the same thing in that.

Go in the chamber. I'm like, Omini, so I called this. I said, I'm going to take a picture of this because no one's going to believe it. They think we're going to play around. But the chamber was like for real. Yeah.

Thank you for staying, by the way. I appreciate it until I fell asleep. You know, it's crazy about the chamber that you guys don't know. It's like the treatment table five that he wanted was a two and a half hour oxygen treatment table versus the table six is just a four and a half. So it's a long time in between. air brakes and breathe oxygen, the pressure at 60 feet, right? But if you go to a table five, it's because your symptoms aren't as bad.

And they kind of went away after 10 minutes of being in the chamber. He got feeling back around the 11th minute. On my right shoulder. On his right shoulder. I was watching, I was watching my watch outside. I was asking him because they were very, they didn't want to do table six. And I'm like, you already, we already blew past like the fives. I don't care what this doctor said.

I talked to the operator of the chamber. I was like, this is your show now. so let's let's get this going at table six and he was super adamant with it but around the 14th minute he got full relief of his symptoms his back was hurting my back was still sore yeah like because you saw him like plank out on on the table at one point he he like tensed up real bad and it's just what's happening and the nitrogen has to go somewhere and does it go out your ass like a fart yeah and he kept telling me fart i said that because he looks super bloated and i said yo roll for relief you know and i don't think he took it seriously because a full grown man is telling me to roll for

relief. But I remember being, that's why. I remember being offshore in the Gulf of Mexico diving on the oil platforms out there. And there was one guy that came up and I remember seeing him in the chamber. He looked like he had swallowed a basketball. It was crazy. He's like, oh, we're like bringing him to surface. It was like, you stop, stop, stop, stop. And then he farted. And it was like, Jesus. It's got to be a good feeling fart. Yeah. And he was like, let's go. Let's go. We're all solid here. So let's get into that deep like deep water diving on oil rigs sounds pretty sketchy yeah you've been down the the deepest dive you've done is 560 feet roger that it's all saturation die show off what's down there everything the money

the money's down the no you know it's cool because everyone thinks you can't see nothing or is it that deep but uh like i could see everything you know there's a pipeline that was actually exposed the one i went to and uh you could see the bottom of the sea bottom and you can see the edge of the pipeline and You can see the whole assemblies where all petroleum lines run into each other. And it's a big satellite platform. And, you know, we lay pipe underwater. So as what she said. No, anyway, so we, we, there's a lot of stuff that I've ever said that just, you got to throw

that out of it. Yeah, it would be fine. Anyway, so some of this pipeline, you've got to roll it into place. So we use big lift bags, you know, and they're all electronics, like they're ran by a guy on a station somewhere and he's filling it up to pressure. and we roll the pipe so we can put the bolts in and we're attaching platform to platform to platform to have a processing line.

So at 500 feet, they still use the Puerto Rican to lay the pipe and to roll the pipe. That's passive racism, but yeah. No, no, I'm just asking you, buddy. From one from one diver to know, that's how it worked? Yeah, yeah. Right on, brother, right on. I respect that.

Lay the type of 500 feet, boss. Grazie, we did that, we did that. I'm shocked that you can see at that depth. Like, you can just see from the sunlight, Or do you have like a flashlight? Like we have lights on that helmet But then there's usually an ROV with us A remote operator vehicle

Like the ones we had That one's a shoebox But the ones that we had It has a big heart At the other companies Were you know One's big size of a Cadillac Like Volkswagen ones yeah

And it's got LEDs and lights You can see that thing coming 300 feet away Now I want to know each of you What's the craziest thing You've seen underwater Don by the way check out Dirty Water Don's a star of sewer divers 9 p.m. on Sundays

That's correct On Discovery Channel Definitely check it out It's a great show. You guys have dove in some very different, but also very interesting places. Between sewers, deep water, what do you guys think is the, like, most unique store you have coming out of those depths? You go first, John. What do you got for deep stuff?

I was doing a pipeline inspection, and I remember locking out of the sapo, and I remember going to the pipeline, and I was running. I was chasing the pipe, and I'm just running to the west, basically. And as I'm following the pipe, I remember seeing a hammerhead coming at me. And I'm like, oh, man. And, you know, I started spearfishing when I was nine, so I've been in the water all my life. So my dad was really rough with me. And he told me if I couldn't shoot the biggest fish with the speargun, he would take it away from me. If I didn't, if I bowed out and I bitched up, that he'd take it away from me.

So it was already in my brain that I was going to alpha up on this guy. Alpha up on a hammerhead. Yeah. So, I mean, he's big for a reason. You know, he's smart. Like, he didn't make mistakes, which is why he got that big. Except this one was really big. And he looked ugly and prehistoric.

You know, so I don't trust it when it's that big because he knows what's up to. Yeah. So I just, I started charging the line. I was like, well, he's going to have to fucking move, you know? And he moved over like, like six inches maybe and kept right by me. I'm like, looking at this guy, go by. I'm like, oh, man, that was way too close. Yeah, but I won.

Yeah, but, you know, you're breathing helium oxygen. You're breathing, so it's a different kind of gas. So it's screaming. You sound like Donald Duck. You sound like, helium? Yeah, so. Yeah, you breathe it. You sound like Donald Duck.

You forget the sound of your voice in saturation. You're in there for 30 days. and I was I remember going oh my god you guys see that shark yeah I see that shark you see the sure and they're like shut the fuck up because they can understand me it's like Donald Duck talking the entire time yeah and so the I remember the supervisor going it's yes Roger no shut the fuck up was like yeah check

Roger that double check so how are you staying that deep under you're literally like sleeping down there yeah so like the the pictures I send you guys of the recompression chamber that he was in basically it's a system So they'll have, like, a bunch of chambers hooked up together on the boat. And so whenever you go up to the service, you go into those chambers so you stay compressed? Yeah, so they put you in what we call a bell. And it basically, it's like a cup.

Like, you put a cup underwater and you would sink it. You had the cavity air in there. Yeah. And the ambient pressure inside, they fight each other. So science works out. It's great. And I think the bell doesn't flood for you. Science is awesome when it works.

Science is great stuff. So when you come up, you come back into the bell, you close that. and they pressurize it to the environment you're working in which let's say it was 500 feet right so you come back up and then the bell would mate up to the system again and the system is pressurized to 500 so you're saturated in that helium environment so that you can live at that so you can work indefinitely there yeah it's also it lowers your core temperature though it makes you cold yeah the healing really cold and you sound like an idiot and you're cold and you get winded real fast and like that's what I was saying with cluster like I remember telling telling you billy that I was like, he had three chances to really, like, bow out of that, you know?

It was like, you put your hat on, you get scared, taking you out, get to the ladder, you don't go, getting scared, you're out, or you get to the line and you don't go, you're out. You know, and I gave you plenty of chances. I'm really proud of you. And you came back to the ladder, I was like, oh, bro, I'm going to pull you right out. And then he was like, foop, right down the line, you know. I was, yeah, that was, that was, that was, very dicey. I told you, I told you it was going to get like that.

That was soft. You guys thought it was going to be 20 feet. Oh, I thought we were going to go at Slack Ty. That's not when it was ripping. That's crazy. That Scoot diver, jargon. Yeah. Like those kids that came and did the other YouTube podcast, those guys were all over the news.

And I'm like, those clowns jumped in for like six minutes. Six minutes on scuba and Slack Ty. They're lucky they didn't die. We knew everything that was over there is we'd been diving it for three weeks. So I'm like, why would you dive over there, man? What have you guys found? In there or anywhere? There and then we brought it.

I mean, the coolest thing. we found was that statue, I think, the first siren. The first siren. I found this statue. It was about yay big. We were diving, what, two weeks ago? And I'm like, I thought it was a Virgin Mary. But it was a very risque Virgin Mary. It was very busty, low-cutt. I'm like, wow,

what's with the Penn House Virgin Mary? Yeah, I don't recall seeing the Virgin Mary since. I'd never seen like that. This one was stacked. She was beachy. And I'm looking at, and we Googled it. It was the goddess of waves and the first siren. The first original.

The name escapes, I can't pronounce it. I'll butcher it either way. But that was the statue down there. Jowahway or something like that. And I was like, this is it. We're on location. We found the first siren

and the god, goddess of waves. We're here. So where did you think that came from? Like fell off a boat? Who knows? We don't know. It was there.

What's crazy about that day is that, well, first of all, what's crazy about the whole siren thing is that his diving company is actually called Siren Marine. So it's wild. Meant to be.

Yeah. But when we actually unhooked, that day we were pulling off the wall we were going to scoot down about a hundred feet or so yeah that was wow that was crazy and then we we had this german reporter on our on our boat and uh he's like staying out of our way because like shit hit the fan really like we pulled away we try to do a lap to get rid of some of the water in the boat and then as we were coming back around you saw the current how was pushing us toward that barge and we kind of pinched there with this boat if it hit that barge it would just roll oh yeah we underneath the barge we got life jackets on i mean we would have been fine yeah no i was

Yeah, but we were fine. I would have been on a rope and you guys, I would have been making phone calls for you guys. Appreciate that, appreciate that. I would have let everyone know. I appreciate you. We did my browser history? I would have posted the content.

Ooh, that's tough. That's important. So when we were actually turning around, we lost the throttle. No, we lost the shifter. I went to the wall and I shifted to neutral to go into reverse to not impact the wall because New York City Parks Department

and you broke. Tends to frown upon that. It became distant lodged, sir. I didn't break it. breaking meant intent it came disenlunched so the motor was in neutral so we could throttle but the prop wasn't spinning so we started going after going to the current towards those barges we were docked at yeah and you had a german journalist on the boat yeah yeah and he doesn't know what's happening but we know that if we don't answer up like it was bad that we knew it was going to happen and

what's going to happen is we're going to they're going to pull our bodies under from underneath that barge in a month because we're getting stuck in there so we're like throwing shackles at the street trying to ring like the railing you know we're telling people to move off this room we're just pitching shackles over there with a rope trying to like grab onto something so we can slow down the boat is this where i saved your life oh we're even no no no no i'm calling it even all stop anyway so as we're going toward the barge we had this like crazy like whirlpool rush came up and kind of slowed the boat down enough for cortes to run to the bow and kind of hold us off the barge which is which is just a really random like yeah that was a it's a freakus again

science got to love it yeah it was really weird how it slowed us down enough for us to hold it in place and then we both wanted to pitch and stuff off the side to like get anchor set and then he went to the back and manually mcguivered i saved your life i was at the throttle waiting for you i think we can come up we can come up with a verdict here billy you think i saved his life have you gone diving since yes and that don't don't divert did i save the man's life yes yes thank you don't appreciate yeah yeah the wanton came together made the voltron again on the same page we're even we're even here I've been diving since that day

that we almost died yeah I mean are you my doctor or are you just asking because you're asking I'm asking you're asking yeah I don't I mean I've almost died a couple times in the water and I came out and changed hats and went right back in I think it's more dangerous having Cortez drive us anywhere than it is diving I'd say so

yeah you answer questions yeah I don't control yeah but I've had my flitted my whole hat before it's completely filled up in water you know you get that point How far down were you when your helmet filled up I was in Brooklyn I was only like 25 feet six feet but we had we had like six inches of ice already we broke through to get in there and I was like running toward the bridge and it was like it was going to be a long run so I had like

150 feet of rig out already and I was just going to make my run and then the air the my diaphragm which is just an old ring that's a flat washer that's inside my helmet broke so and it was cold so I had plenty air but as the air is coming in it's freezing in my in my not we had that Alaska too. That sucks. So it was just spit in ice water at my face. I couldn't catch my breath and then eventually the whole hat wound up flooding and this this kid that was there, Mike pulled me out to the ladder and I wound up just taking the hat off and throwing it on the deck. That's the third time I threw it on my hat. I threw it on the deck and I was like, just put another hat on

let's go and you gotta shake that off man. Yeah, if you don't do if you don't shake it off you don't get that car accident. You know, if you don't get on the road again. We're not used the word car accident and Cortez is driving us. Thank you. Yeah. My best. Quotez with S he works with us. Yeah, yeah. Um, he's great guy. Great guy. Not the strongest of drivers. He's learning. He's in all defense to him. He's learning. He's a new driver. He's a new. He lived in in New York his whole life. Oh yeah. And he just recently when he got back into the union and he's a union diver now. Congratulations Cortez. Um, he got a car because now he's a he's an adult. Yes. And he's learning. So I bust his balls a lot, but he's learning. He's doing good. He's doing

great, really. So what else have you found? down there. Oh, yeah. So, a ton of times. We've heard some of the stories, but listen. So do you want the sewers or do you want the river? Yeah. So the craziest thing I got in sewer system was in Patterson, New Jersey.

We dove, we had a blockage. I get down there about, I want to say a memory serves 82 feet in the pipe. When you say a blockage, is that just like a giant ball of shit? Yeah. They usually, they call it a, I hate this word, but I'm to use it, fat bird. Can't stand it. They called a fat bird. The coin was, the phrase was coined in England.

They have a really shitty infrastructure where to come. And they had these big wooden balls they send down to break up fat birds. And the biggest one was ever in England. It was like four football fields. It was massive. Oh my gosh. So there's a section of it in a museum. Okay.

Yeah, it was a real famous thing. So I'm down there. I come across the blockage and I'm like, this isn't typical feeling. But we're double-gloved, you know. It's a sewer system. So you're like you're encapsulated like a tuna sandwich, right? Yeah, because if any of that shit gets on your body and like an open cup. Like you could eat the hepatitis

There's all kinds of things To eat like some fun stuff yeah I have to call it ethomethyl bed shit You know so I'm touching I'm touching I'm touching I'm touching And I get to a neck I'm like Hmm

Way too fuzzy to be human Okay so no not a human body But now we're now we're feeling We're feeling we're feeling I'm like right on it And I wish I could tell you I didn't do this but I kind of let out a little yelp Because there's a deer looking back at me Oh yeah

Add to the shock of it and me screaming like a baby be back bitch i turned to then toss some jokes out oh dear what are you doing here uh it was an eight point buck somehow it was it got lodged into the sewer system oh my god so it was like it was all contorted legs were all the different directions the head was sideways and the rack was on the walls it was like a 36 inch pipe and this thing is just like wedged so i'm like wait so you were in a 36 inch pipe yeah that's big man that's spacious that's an easy place you can turn around in that bitch. Jesus Christ, that's way

too claustrophic for me. No, because this summer you're not diving one, you're going to love it. You're not fucking love it, bro. I'm not going to a fucking... You're not the thinnest guy. I feel like that's... Well, I am pliable, thank you, like a melted ice cream. Like ice cream, you can... Yeah, I can just just go in the spots.

So I end up getting a hydraulic chainsaw down there. Because naturally, what do you do? You can't dislodge it would come alongs in your own brute manly strength, Santiago. I have. Yeah, you would have. You would have looked at it and would have moved. I would have bit it.

No, not like deep jerky. So I ended up with a chainsaw and brought up by pieces. And you had to see the people in Patterson when I'm bringing out chunks of deer on the street. Oh, Jesus. And there's their stuff. Traffic is stopped. And they're like, what the hell? Just deer.

Just deer car can swap on. Keep the rack? No, I'm not a big hunter or deer guy. Yeah. Plus, I'm going to count it. I mean, I hit one on a train once I counted as a couple. I mean, I hit the one with my car, I counted. Yeah, there you go.

So that was a crazy thing there. And I think so far where we're at now in the river, we've got seven accumulated city bikes. We have a pickup truck, a full pickup truck. It looks like it's from the 50s if I had a venture, I guess, because the rear axle and the leaf springs configured. I don't know if you got on that. No.

The with the 454 motor. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. The coils from that truck threw me off. I was like, oh, baby, here are the ribs. And I want to be in a spring. Oh, shit. Like, damn it, man.

I sent up a piece of, which I thought was a rib. It looked, it looked apart, non-magnetic. We both were like, this is it. We got it. We're fucking rich. I'm spending money left and right. Like, we're in touch with these guys from Boneyard, Alaska, like, on a regular basis. And we sent it to them first so we didn't look like assholes.

Because those guys on YouTube put that mammoth tooth up for clout. Yeah. But they brought it with them. That was messed up. They brought it with them. They took a picture. And, like, I get how YouTube works. So, like, I saw what they did.

Just Instagram is way more ruthless. I love YouTube. I'm not Santiago. I have a YouTube channel. It's all right. Anyway, so the Mammothuth that he posted it, so I was like, we can't do that. You can't be that guy. Like, that's dumb.

So we called them and they're like, you should cut it. They're like, take it home, clean it, let it dry. We let it sit. No, we put it in a distilled water. We put it in a 25 mixture of distilled water and white vinegar. Let it sit overnight. And then we let it dry, which the waiting is the hardest part, by the great song. And we have a life.

So we have a life. Yeah, we have a social life. And so we let it decide. Then we cut it with a bandsaw. And by the way, it was a Milwaukee band saw. Just want to put that out there. Okay. Milwaukee, please call me.

Return my emails. The, um, so we cut it was aluminum or the people over the pond say aluminum. Oh, yes. I don't know how you say it. English standard. Yeah, the English standard. And garage. And garage.

That sounded really good. Adominium. Gartage. They've got a couple other words. They say. I like bonnet. My buddy Liam always called it. Yeah.

Silly sausage. Theater. Theater. That sounds good. Theater. Theater. Theater. Am I doing it?

Am I on it? Theeta. Theater. Okay. Anyway. They pronounce it. They got to send it with emotion. Yeah.

With emotion. I can't do. They want us to dive in England for season two. There was talk about it. Because of the fuck. Dive in the sewers of England? Yeah. The catacombs.

So, yes, sir. The catacombs. Oh, now do you want to dive in a sewer, Billy? Now I're all about it? No. Dude, I can't do. It's all metric of it. Being all like, like, like, open.

water I was fine with, but if I was in a tiny, in water in like a casket, basically. You started your life that way, bub. Yeah. In water, in a little womb, if you will, within a miracle. Yeah, I was picturing in one of the Ghostbusters movies, they have to go

down into the sewers because that's where all the pink slime is. And that was a pretty roomy sewer. Spacious, yeah, it was a very spacious sewer. So I was thinking it was going to be something like that. That sounds fun. The English catacombs do have sections like that. They're lobbied

where you can go in And we also have those in Manhattan And the one I was in Harlem You go into the facility And you go down a set of metal steps And there's water And it's like a runoff And then you go down more steps

Like a lot of steps It's like multiple layers in basements And they become rooms like that There's also ones that are real tight And small-tram But there's also huge rooms I would go to one of those Those are hard to get film cruising

Oh yeah Yeah the I believe the Patriot Act Put a cabash to that Or that's what the New York City says. Yeah, because they're super paranoid about someone planning a bomb down there. Yeah, I understand blowing up a bridge. That makes sense.

God forbid, but a sewer, that's where that's... Well, if you place a big enough bomb in the sewer, it's going to take out everything on top of it, too. Yeah, if you put a bomb anywhere, do that. That's true. I got in trouble about talking about hypotheticals for Joe Biden. Yeah, I don't like to use that word either. Yeah.

Hypothetical, of course. Yeah. I can't spell it. Big word. Hypoth, never mind. He's doing it again. And here it comes. Yeah, but no, I mean, so the sewers in England's are much smaller, right?

Because they built it like, I think it was in like 1700s, 1800s. And I think they were one of the first cities with like a modern sewer system. Yeah, and I think they built it extra large for their standards because they're like, well, one day there might be way more people living here. And it's still held up, right? Yeah, they, well, also, they're not as big as you might believe because English men aren't the known for their size. Yeah. So if an English guy can fit down there Then I mean

Can you I'm ice cream buddy ice cream I get fit I mean I've crawled in some stuff In like nuclear facilities Where we just like You don't fit through this pipe And you gotta send your bailout bottle

Between your legs And you gotta squeeze down You can only go one direction Jesus Christ And I remember I was in Chattanooga At a facility over there This was like I don't know Like 2009

Was that a nuclear power plant Yeah And I flew in for that And I was there for like two days And I remember calling And it's probably what I'm looking at. I'm like, what pipe? Like this hole right here?

And they're like, yeah, they're like, you're the smallest guy. I'm like, I'm like, I'm not that small. I'm not that small, dude. And they're like, you're it. I'm like, damn it. So I jumped through and I had the bailout at my feet. I'm like chasing this down. Like, I think we went down like 80 feet or something.

And like you couldn't move, dude. And all I had to do was put this a laminate card up. And at the bottom, there was a scale, like a drawing that was already like etched into the wall. And I had to put the laminated card to it. And it was basically like a color or a tanning. test so you can see the color of the water based on the wall and you just put it in front of it and they see it on the camera and that was literally the dive they took the video they were like okay and they do whatever nerdy stuff they do with that information and then i came out but we get

paid for penetrations so when you yes there's a scale for it actually male jiggleau yes so if you go into a sewer let's say that's 50 feet um that's all good but if you travel that way 300 feet that's a big boy payday because they pay you by the foot after a certain point depending on what state. After 500, it's, I like to say, negotiable. Yes. I become Joe Pesci real quick. Fuck you pay me.

Sewers that were like, I went into a story, came back, and then went through a different opening when the sewer line went back, and it would turn out to be like a $1,400 day for like an hour. But that does your penetration pay? That's not your actual hourly rate or your rental. Yeah, he's being modest. That's a $3,000 day. It was like a $8,000 day.

Yeah. And he's doing on a Sunday, which I do my best work on Sunday. Oh, double time days. You get double the pleasure with me. I will give you. 10090% of course I'm to keep 10% for myself and so is the government yeah so speaking of nuclear yeah speaking of nuclear uh dirty water don first I got a text from him saying first that was my idea was your idea okay I've been talking Chernobyl since I learned about Chernobyl in third grade

you can't even spell so doesn't I don't know about I yeah first I got a text that said do you want to dive Chernobyl and I just thought it was like a joke but then he called me up and he was like, so I've been doing some research. You texted me back saying, are you serious? A couple days later. Yeah, but I didn't like, and then I was like, I don't know if he's actually going to follow through with this. I think it's just like a wild idea.

But then he calls me up and he's like, so I've been doing a lot of research on Chernobyl. Cracking the books on this Chernobyl. And you were like, I forget what you said. You can probably explain it best. So you're like, there's three ways we could go diving in Chernobyl. So, yeah, we can pull this off. One, we, we pussyfoot and we say we're doing the war's over. Yes, it is right smack down.

in a war zone. Yeah, I'm not a fan of the whole waiting thing. Actually, I think it's currently under occupation. Yeah, there was like the Battle of Chernobyl. I think like in this war. I think they were like bombing around it. They were scared that they was going to get they're going to bring up the dirt off the dust up and shit and it's not travel with the wind. So we can do, we can wait. That's number option one guys. We wait. Okay. Option two, we fly into Poland. We land in Poland. We have to sneak or not, I'm sorry, not sneak. Yes, Nick, we used the word sneak. We had to go over the border into the Ukraine.

We were to caravan and we were going to travel 10 hours via caravan, but argumentally we're going to figure for 12 hours of travel, get to location, we have to stop outside and hike for 90 minutes to get to location, to even make an attempt to dive there. Option three. Wait, so is that basically just invading Russia? Yeah, we'd be hiking behind enemy line. Well, no, technically it's Ukraine, but Russia over. receives the

Chernobyl site. I believe if I'm correct on my race, I could be wrong. So it's a very contentious spot. Oh, yes. A nice word. Wait, Chernobyl, okay, for those you don't know, Chernobyl isn't anywhere near Russia technically. It's on the border

between Belarus and Ukraine. So, but Belarus is a Russian ally. Yeah. Belarus is basically Russia. Yeah. You should teach seventh grade drug factory. Yeah. It's basically the same thing. No, but like, even politically and geographically. The question is, what jail

would we end up in? And Russia would be probably the one we end up in. We'd probably end up in a Ukrainian police station, which is being used to torture, like, Ukrainian dissidents. We have friends there. We'll be okay. That'd be the worst. Russia has had, they captured Chernobyl February 24 of

2022. Should we just be like, hey, can we come dive? Yeah, hey, could the bottom out? So option three, which is the most pricey of the options. The quote I was given was 400,000. Now,

that's why I said, wow, that's a big number, right? And what that does is, you'd fly to Romania. You'd land in Romania. We would then get on in helicopter.

It can only be a three-man expedition because there'll be three other men with us. Armed? Yes, yes, yes. I believe slingshot and crossbows, but they carry. The best of the best,

sir, yes. And they would be... Why not a gun? No, they have guns. Okay. The question I was asked, though is the three occupants that plan on going do they are they familiar with their way around a firearm i'm like so i could be packing that's just gangster that's yeah i'm sideways kill shot all day

so um it would be six of us in total three of the dive crew three of security yeah we'd get dropped there by helicopter and we have 10 hours to figure out what we want to do because hell or high water that helicopter will be there at 10 hours and if we're not there well that's our fucking problem so what are we looking for some navy seal nothing just to go to Chernobyl what are we going to die for in Chernobyl what one I want to I want to ride a razorback a pig that I believe live out there now oh there are bores actually that's actually really cool after Chernobyl happened and basically all the humans had to evacuate the basically like the equivalent of the yellowstone national park occurred in Europe all the like the large megafauna uh you're Asian bison

uh I think brown bear like stuff that hasn't been seen in Europe yeah that's a Because there's been zero humans there. That's what open for underwater. Giant fish. If you, yeah, exactly. Nuclear, nuclear fish? Well, Godzilla fish.

They haven't had any interaction with anybody. Like, when you die a spot like that, everything gets curious and they start showing up because they've never seen you before. But what kind of fish are down there? Who knows? Bass? Who knows? Sturgeon?

Angry sea bass. Unpered? Like, you find fish. Harvest the eggs and then we can sell Chernobyl caviar. That would be so. Some hot caviar? Would you eat it? I'd eat it, dude.

I mean, there's a couple sickos who would. And now we're sickos. Well, no, I mean, so I know pre-war, I saw some YouTubers who were like exploring Chernobyl. They weren't diving there. There was, but yeah, there definitely was like a way to go. It wouldn't have been like it wouldn't have been crazy expensive. The war definitely complicates things. Is the power plant itself like flooded?

Could you just like? Well, the basement sections are they're all, when the rainfall and the roofs caved in and the out-hout buildings all, you know, gathered water from nature. The problem with radiation and underwater is that, like, you can't see it, you know, so you can't see, you can't feel, can't touch it. Can you taste it? No, but you'll taste it after, you know? Yeah, when your skin starts falling off.

What's that? Can you see it above water? I mean, you can't see it at all unless you see it coming out of your skin and your dine from cancer. Oh, yeah. But so without actual, like, rad monitoring or something, like, it makes it super sketchy to be that close to whatever they buried because their standards are definitely not our standards.

Yeah, but you can get those. of the Geiger counters and everything off of Amazon relatively cheap. I mean, you probably get a deal. Wait, so I'd be down post-war. I mean, if we were going in with that, the firepower is just, if we cut that out of the budget, I think we could get a lot.

I think that's the most expensive part. The other option, which I was looking into as well with Johnny, there was a river in North Korea that Westerners haven't dove, and it's apparently like ripping, like crazy river. I like that. And the name escapes me. I was, I talked to Molder brother about that one

because he pitched that one to me. He's like, this one seems safer. Russia. North Korea seems safer than the Ukraine. Don't we have to go through Russia again? No, you fly right to South Korea and go over. No, Southwestern Airlines. We can get into North Korea.

It's paper. North Korea borders China. No, yeah. I don't know why I was being from. Why I think it was Russia. I wanted to say South Korea. It borders South Korea. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, it borders South Korea and China. I just want to dive something that's cool. dive something that has never been doved before. Just put my mark on it. I mean, the East River is pretty cool. Not as cool as something like Chernobyl. Yeah.

I mean, I think the glacier diving you did supersedes the East River. The glacier diving was unreal. And that was just free diving. One of the guys I was with had one of those, what are they called? Plastic bag. No, it's a little motor that he can hold on to. A scooter? Yeah, he had a water scooter.

I would love just a personal one of those. and so I didn't have a lot of free diving experience so I just held on to him That's awesome Held my breath from the back Yeah I grabbed his shoulders He was on the scooter And then we would just go down

And he would like explore the glacier That's sick Russia does border North Korea And China Russia and China There's a spot where they all meet Yep That's probably that tastes nice

That's probably the most communist place ever The China Russia In North Korea, all it is the depth triangle of communism. It's this little place. It's on this river. Yeah, it's on a river. And that's the way that most North Korean refugees, that's how they get out. They like swim across the river.

The Tumen River? So you're saying it can be done. It can be done. Is that the river? It couldn't be done. I guess. It could be. Yeah, no, I mean, I have friends who have been to North Korea.

And I was contemplating it until that whole thing with Otto Warmbier happened, who he was an American college kid who, like, signed up for a tour in China. to go to North Korea, and he took a poster off the wall. They, like, as he was at the airport about to leave, the North Korean police came and put him in custody and locked him up. And they were like, oh, you have to do like 15 years hard labor. He did one press conference, and he was like tearing up. It was super sad to watch.

And then after maybe six months or, a year they're like actually you know what we're going to return him to you now and they returned him and he was in he was in like a coma yeah he was in like a coma yeah he beat him up and was dead within the next few hours of getting back to the u.s that's fucked and so he died in the u.s is the thing yeah he did so like after that happened i was like i can't tell my like if i told my parents or my fiance i'm going to north korea they would just be furious so we'll just keep it between us i'm sure there's other cool spots that we can go i mean there's a lot cooler places in this world in North Korea.

It's true. Wait, there's, I just, I just looked up Chernobyl on maps. Turns out there's like, actually right next to us, the babushkas of Chernobyl. Love the name. I don't know what that is, but I think it's like a, I think it's a, it's not a cover of your head. What the hell is this? Aibushka.

Anyway, I got distracted. I think it's literally like a Chernobyl, either charity or Chernobyl traveling. It's one of the other. You know what we do? You know what we do? When we Google stuff, we want to do it, we go. most dangerous places to dive. Yeah.

Then we go and see how much content's in that spot. We're like, yeah, we should do that one. I think that's how that process is. You want to go find Atlantis? That would be cool, right? It would find a spot. I got to finish the bone thing first. Yeah.

I mean, but once that's done, I'm wide open, buddy. Let's go. I mean, how much progress are we making on the bones? We have covered, uh, 700, 700 feet. Yeah, I was going like 800. 700 feet. out and then 40 feet. So 40 feet by 700 feet we've covered.

We've mapped. Do you think you got to hit the trench? Well, we periodically, me and San Diego go in the trench. Cortez is still a newer diver, so we're trying to break him out properly before we put him in there. I think we have another four weeks. We hit 71st Street.

Yeah. And we can honestly say we have dove up and around 65th Street. And it's like there's nothing there. Well, I have another theory on that. Yeah. See, my theory was they didn't dump it at 65th Street the block.

I believe, which is where we're going to go next, they dumped it at 65th Street Rail Yard. Now, 65th Street Rail Yard is in Brooklyn, and it's one of the oldest jobs on the harbor. They bring rail cars in, like freight rail. which would explain a freight car worth and where would you store that property you'd put it at the Army Navy Terminal

and if this happened in the 40s, right? Bear with me. That means the war efforts going on and the ports were crazy during World War II. They had like the mob doing security. Shit was off the handle. There was like no rules, right? So if you had a box car come in

and it got delivered at 65th Street and there was no one either there to receive it, it wasn't packaged properly. it got damage in transit or the story goes there's no storage because the war efforts going on in the army terminal then what do you do with it I mean the museum's like get fucked they they didn't per se did it and then the third part entered who did the shipping wouldn't take back the contents they would dump it on and around 65th street which is the rail yard so you know what's crazy I think that's the same doc the drug smuggler we had on used to bring in marijuana the 6th

Brooklyn, yeah. Yeah, he brought it into the Brooklyn Navy Yard. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, so the Navy Yard and then there's the Army Terminal. We got to go to this fucking plate. We got to go to this place. Maybe we can find some cocaine. Oh, no, it was weed.

Yeah, yeah, it was sweet. That's a dumb drug. What's that? You can get that anyway. Actually, I'd be fucking down to die at the 65th Street. That's shallow there, too. Yeah, you can do it all day. Problem is, here's the problem.

We already did an inspection dive there. It's a baby shit bottom. It's soft. You can reach your whole hand in it. So if you drop the 200-pound tuss, you got a sink. So we've been probing it. We did a, excuse me,

we had three dives clocked in over there. Yeah. But until this conversation between the four of us, no one knew about this location until right now. So fuck me. We're going to clip that. It's hard. It's hard to get over there anyway.

Like you can't just be hanging around in front of there. That's protected areas. Yeah. Well, we have the, the police. The police are, they're, Their terminal, the police, what is it slip? What do you call it, Johnny? It's a slip.

Yeah, I call it a slip. The police slip for New York City boats, New York City police boats, is right there. Right? So we dove it a couple times, but we look the part. We look like construction. So they're just like, ah, they're working, you know? And the other people who would have any interjection of what's being there is the DEP and the DEP facility right now is under construction.

So we just look like we belong. Now, granted, we're not breaking any laws by dropping anchor in any public navigable orderway. Yeah. Because we're not breaking any violations. But all you're doing is leaving a door open for people to come ask you what you're doing. Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, we could do it.

If you're, you know, you're free this week, we'll go out there and do it. I found a spot that you can dive. It's supposed to be the worst job in the world. And it is sewer diving, but it's sewer diving in India. Oh. And I've been trying to go to India. I might be going like this coming April. All right.

You could tag along and dive some of the sewers in Delhi. Dude, you can definitely. Those have to be some of the gnarliest sewers in the world. Yeah, because they don't use water to flush their twelfth. There's a hole in the ground, right? They don't back by water. Yeah, I mean, this is like, there's a YouTube video, how sewer diving became one of the most dangerous jobs in Pakistan and India.

And, I mean, this is. Is the answer, lack of training? Oh, I know. Yeah, because this guy, This guy's just, he's not even wearing a suit There's a video of a dude just hopping in the sewer That's the problem That's why it's dangerous

Shirtless Oh my gosh Look who I'm competing against If you showed up with some actually like solid Oh he's just He's just jumped in the shit with Oh actually Don have you heard about this

Protective gear So we could turn this into like a charity thing Where it's like I brought a sewer diver from the US With all the fancy equipment All the fixings And he's gonna clean five of your lucky sewers for free. Listen, I'll go out with you, okay?

But I'm only going to cover four sewers. Yeah. Well, let's just, I think if you just clean one sewer, that's, that's nice of me. We'll call that a dumb. Should I pressure wash it? Donnie, you'd have to get pressure washer over there. Have you heard of gutter oil in China? Yeah, and I probably 100% have eaten food that's been fried in it.

Yes, it turns out they takes, so in, in, is it, so a Chinese slang term of recycled oil. In China, apparently they take sewage and boil it and burn it off to till the oil. The fat stays? Yeah. And then they use it for cooking. I mean,

I've had some fried food in China where after eating it, you're just on the couch for like a day. I've had some Bogaga spots from the Bronx like that. Yeah. To go away to China, I think you go to the Bronx for that. Yeah. The French rice, but they do taste different. They have a different thing. I mean, yeah, most

the fried food tastes good, but you can tell when someone's been cooked in bad oil. If you're just like, you get like super lethargic and you feel like you just got a brick in your stomach. You have a big oil and human waste. This is a whole different small game there? So, the sewer fatberg? Is that a Yeah, it's a thing of fat bird, yeah. So what is a fat bird?

It's accumulation of your cooking oils, your grease traps that overflow, human escriments, um, your tampons. Tampons are a big one. You know what I find is crazy. We need off topic for a moment. You had one cocaine addict turtle. Just one destroyed the straw market for all the West Coast and the East Coast.

Got rid of plastic bags, straws, all great. But tampon applicators, they don't say a word about all we find in the sewers in the rivers are beach whistles or needles. And those two things are still giving out like they're nothing? Which makes you think, are women driving on the West Side Highway just tossing tampons out? Well, I think they probably flush them down the toilet. I know. Yeah, okay. Yeah, cool, yeah.

So, huh, so, not to get a little topic, but the one cooked-up turtle. Yeah, it's right. One, one turtle with a problem, and I can't get a straw at McDonald's. Like, this is ridiculous. I've never seen a turtle with a straw in his nose. Not once. One time, I've been underwater for 20 years. I've seen balloons.

Never. They eat balloons. I saw it. Is that what they say? They say it's because of the turtles? Yeah, because turtles eat jellyfish. Now, plastic's floating in the water. Yes.

Yeah, but, like, that's why, like, a plastic bag, it's horrible. Because they'll think that's a jellyfish. That and balloons, balloons are huge. Because they fall in, they let them go. They fall in a pack. They fall into the water. They just go sink, but they don't go to the bottom. They kind of stay midwater with the tail of the string.

And I mean, I'm not sure how smart turtle is, but I did see Nemo and that guy was kind of like a little bit of a stoner. So maybe they're all like that. Yeah. Turtles, drug guys? Yeah, maybe they're big drug guys. They got a problem? Maybe they do.

We should have a little intervention. Yeah. Go over the aquarium, see what's up. You're like, hey, what are you doing? Yeah, you need to talk to somebody, need a grown-up? You're a slow. Now, are you only a frog expert? I'm a herpetologist.

Okay, that's a big word, too. Yeah. You know a lot about turtles, too? Yeah. They got a drug problem in here. They got a drug problem, bro. They love the drugs. Coke, weed, balloons, they're doing it all.

You know what they're... Nitrous. You know, they're looking for nitrous. Yeah, they're cracking them out. Yeah, the balloons. They hang outside of a Randall's Island after a dead concert. They're from East Island. Oh, yeah?

I mean, the teenage mutant ninja turtles were definitely on some sort of drug. At least Splinter was definitely on something. He was really calm, though. That's right. Well, too calm. A little of mesquim? Yeah. Can you get mesquim?

I mean, Splinter probably can. Oh, right now. Just talked to. So you had nitrous in your blood. Is that the same, like when you have a nitrous balloon at, say, a fish show? I believe nitrogen and nitrous are two different things. Oh, okay. She had nitrogen.

Nitrogen. So you weren't farting and trying to huff it. that first of all I do that either way that's the size of the point nitrogen is in the your ambient air so you have nitrogen oxygen argon helium that's what you normally breathe

so when you're breathing every breath take right now is nitrogen 71% are you what is it 70 you're the fucking teacher I mean nitrogen and then nitrous oxide or two of the things one's a laughing gas yes

I mean if you want to breathe both for you we'll see what the difference is no it's okay it's okay for now no sense of adventure Do you ever have to breathe enough of the one? Whoa. Do you ever have to breathe? What's the gas that makes your voice super deep?

Oh, man. It's like the, is that sort of where to be? Barron. No, I've never. Bromide. Brom. Is it wrong? Or boron.

It's what Dr. Peterson had to breathe. It makes it super deep. Boron. Wait, why did he have to breathe? Because he was addicted to anxiety medication. And that and that type of gas? Yeah, because it just like, green you off. It just like, that makes you feel super heavy.

I don't know. I just heard it on Rogan once. Can you talk like Eeyore when he was done? Yeah, yeah, breathing boron. Boron gas, damn. Breathing boron. I kind of want some boron. That's what do I?

You got a boron guy? Can we, yeah, you got a boron guy? Actually, I don't know if it's boron or if it's, wait, gas. I bet you turtles. You breathe a bunch of junky turtles. Opposite dealers right now. Yeah, look them. They're going on.

I mean, yeah. Sulfur, hexafluoride. Whoa, see that five times fast. Yeah. That's a sexy street name. It's six times heavier than normal air. Oh, so it makes you sound like you're possessed. That won't kill you?

I don't think so. Imagine that in bath salts. What? Yeah, it's the same phenomenon on just the opposite direction. That's wild. No, but you know, if you dive and you dive deep enough on regular compressed air and you get to the point where... The martini effect. You feel like you're smashed.

Like you had nitrogen narcosis is what it's called. Yeah. You feel like you're a... They call it the martini effect. Was it after 99 feet? It's, it's at, yeah, it's after about 99th for most people. They drop the stuff. But if you know, if you know guys that, like, if you drink, like if you're used to being

intoxicated or in that environment per se, you can go past that. No problem. Oh, so like, we still, the tolerance you've built up by just drinking. Yeah, you're like, you cast me out. Because you can function, you know, so some guys just, they can't do it after 100 feet and so they give you a dive school, they drop you and they give you that little toy, right? The little like the little children's. tour with the blocks.

Do you guys do this or no? Oh, in the chain. You know what I'm talking about? They give a little toy. So me and the kid I was with this kid, Deaver from Delaware, a little tiny guy. And we didn't really know each other. So they dropped us both in. They're down to 100 feet and they give us this toy to function to use.

So bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. And then we continue having a conversationally, nothing else. So the teaching step comes down. He's like, you are functioning alcoholics. You guys are delinquents. I'm like, well... This is in the decompression. Yeah, I was down at 100 feet.

Nothing was wrong with us. In dive school, they put you in the chamber and they pressurize it and they bring you down to simulate the 100 foot environment basically. And he's talking about there. So you gave them like a couple toys to play with, you know. I remember when we were in that in my dive class, like this kid. Back in the 80s? We were told not to look at each other. In 2002.

So we were told not to like look at each other because we were going to laugh. And as soon as we laughed, they were going to bring us up. But we had like, I mean, I was 18. So you can imagine I was a professional alcoholic at that point. So when we were going down, I think, I don't even know how far we made it, but I remember this kid put his forehead on the chamber and he was like, I'm stuck, I'm stuck. And we just started laughing and they're like, yo, that's it. You don't matter. Wait, so you actually get delirious. It's not just motor motor. No, you feel drunk. Well, they test you with that because they've had guys take their helmets off because they're convinced the fish need the air. Yeah. Yeah. They just want to get out of it. So when dying hour down at 70 feet, we told you guys not to take up your helmet. Yeah. I said, but you could match you. That was the, yeah. Yeah, that was, yeah, the only rule. Those are the rules. It's easier to bring you back to if you, uh, not.

It's easier to revive you. It's easier to revive you if you're just, you know, drowning out of air, you know. But if you're like out of it, you know, that's, that sucks, you know. They love the drowning experience, buddy. The drowning experience is overrated. When you're like, I know, I'm, I haven't given control. I know I'm not supposed to take a breath of this delicious water. I'm not going to.

Yeah. And the helmet fills up. I got this. Yeah. So you sucked up. And then you're, uh, you're sucked. that water, and you're like, ah, he's starting dying.

Oh, my God. Have you done that before? Oh, yes. It's all the time. I mean, not all the time. I know about. It's a lot. I've had it more than once.

Me too. So you're like, yeah, I've never had to, there are times when like, I'm like, I need a breath. I always get up just in time, but you guys have actually had to take that first breath of water because that's the scariest part. Sometimes it happens when you're working and you're in the middle of it.

So you're like, when you go to yell, it's like, how much vanselo do you feel when you have the water in your hat and you're yelling at somebody top side and you move and the water goes in your mouth and then it makes the whole yelling to the point. So like what and they go back

what'd you say? What was that? Repeat lines? I didn't hear you. You're like, fucking dying over here, bro. Just give me scared. Yeah.

If you go quiet, are they like... If they're paying attention. Yeah. Sometimes I like to test them. If they're paying attention. That's why we have a tender on the hose as well. Like if he's supposed to be holding the hose the whole time and it's not more so

because that's his job. I mean, it's definitely his job to monitor. But if you hold the hose, you can feel everything. Like I feel you breathing through it You can see if there's airs going So when you're choking the hose

You can feel me breathing With two hands You feel me through the hose When you're choking it I'm just trying to understand your perspective And when was the last time you tended I tended for them Yeah

That doesn't count That's the actrics bro I mean like really tended You've been out of the tending game for years That's not true Oh that's true You're fucking forward Because I'm the talent

So I'm always in the water I'm the show I'm the one doing that legendary shit I've always wanted to know if this is true, but to become a Navy SEAL, do you have to be drowned and then brought back to life? I've never been a Navy SEAL, but I've heard that, yeah. Do you want to call Dave Earp and ask him? No. Okay.

They're like, you have to like learn how to drown and then they resuscitate you? I believe the training for the United States Coast Guard rescue squad is more labor intensive, if I'm correct, than Navy SEAL school. Underwater. The rest of the guys who jump in. to rescue you. Yeah. I believe Asking Coutcher did a movie on it. The Guardian.

The Guardian. Good movie. Good flick. Kevin Costner's at real deal. Yeah, I love him. But yeah, they do like real shit, though. Yeah, they get a bad rap. I think they are more labor intensive. That's a badass shit. Than the Navy Seals.

Because Navy SEals going into a war zone. They're trying to be incognio. They're just, you know, they're keeping it low key. Not disrespecting the Navy SEAL. No, yeah, not at all. They're bad motherfuckers. But imagine going to somewhere where people are drowning and they're going to grab on to you. Before the boat goes down.

I think. there's a bunch of that like uh i i did way too much research on this when i was younger but there's like a ton of training in the navy seals where you got to swim like 50 yards underwater you got to uh do underwater combat so like basically you're underwater with a mask on you have a bunch of guys come at you rip your mask off beat the shit out of you they had the same thing for the coast guard yeah those guys have the same training yeah so they attach to see my dad's training did the same shit to me at like 10 yeah i'm not a hug i'll give you a hug i'm not trying to brag but i used to play really competitive sharks and minnows with friends.

Oh yeah. Solid. The rules of sharks and minnows, you can only be tagged out if your heads above water. Yeah. So it would turn into just like full on brawls underwater and I would always come out to Victor. Yes. We played that once in my friend's hot tub. Is it a 10 person hot tub?

And if you position yourself, where the fuck? I don't know if a hot tub is large enough for sharks and mouse. Is it a bathhouse? Yeah. Is it a Russian bathhouse? If you hold your mouth a certain way under there, the bubbles will go and keep you surviving under water. She has know that. All right. So I'm going to try to

try to suck one of the bubblers? Yep. Suck the bobbler. Put it right to get on it. Okay. If you're free later, we'll get in a hot tub. I'll show you. You're going to suck the bubbler with him? That was in the movie Water World when like he's underwater and he goes down and he like

breathes into the girl's mouth to keep her life. Yeah, but he had gills. Oh, okay. Because I was like, that wouldn't work. He's cheating. He's seen dry land. It's not a myth. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't watch Waterworld. What?

Oh, that's a classic. I don't even know you. That's an American. I just turned 24. I water world way before my time. I saw that in the theaters. Like they have a show somewhere. Universal Studios has a Waterworld show.

Did you not get it? No. Fly the airport, let's go to the airport. You need to watch that, actually. Watch it for the next podcast. It's never so. I didn't see Waterworld. I feel like you would love it.

It's right up your house. I'll watch it. I'm not mad. I'm disappointed in you. It's way before myself. Did you get to do that mean? So was Godfather. I bet you watched that.

I did watch Godfather. Were we put in Waterworld and Godfather? No, no, no, no, no. I wouldn't do that. The last breath, did you guys see it? No. That's a great documentary. I told you guys to watch it after.

So that's about a certain tribe of people that have like that's the saturation diver that went in the North Sea, went down and the. He was a building vessel that he was on. Lost power and they drifted away and it snapped his umbilical off. And he got left down there. And my buddy, Liam. his uncle works on that toe pads on that platform and he was actually like down there for wow i don't remember that i think it was 13 minutes uh bottom dweller's a diving podcast they talked to him nice shout

out yeah i sat out to armando man for getting it um but he he i survived that he was saturated so much with oxygen that i guess it's one of those scientific things that just he survived it man he shouldn't have survived he had like 13 minutes or something like that he was like good good like he's still diving he still got wait wait so he had so much oxygen in his body At least that's what I think. He was saturated so, so much to a point that he survived that cold water, lowered his heart rib. I mean, I couldn't break it down for you.

He passed out, though. Oh, yeah. I mean, he was out of air. Well, when the ROV came, he was flicking his fingers to get their attention. He couldn't move. It's a really good documentary. Actually, that one motivated my tattoo across my chest. But the umbilical snapping, like, you can hear that sound of it, like snap, snap.

And that sucks. I've heard that before during my career. Were they doing windmills in the North Sea? No, I don't know what they were working on. They were working on, they were working on plastic. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So, so he survived for 30 minutes.

Yeah, I thought you said 13. I thought it was less than because it doesn't, it's not real. It's fucking crazy. It's crazy. That shouldn't have happened. So when that, when that oil pipeline going from Russia to Germany, when that got exploded, like how much do you guys know about those types of pipelines? I mean, I was off shore when the BP oil spill had happened.

I was working with Oceanering when we played. plugged it. Oh, you plugged? I mean, I didn't plug it. I was with oceaneering when it got plugged. How does that work? I mean, we saw that fire. That was crazy. It was like a hundred miles up, man. You could see that smoke. A sheen everywhere. And I think it was a Coast Guard kid that took a picture of it. And he sent it out on like a tweet or something. And then they were like, evacuate the Gulf of Mexico. Oh, shit. Yeah. Has that even like still recovered? I mean, I think that Florida is the one that's going to get jammed up the most because they threw chemical disbursement on it, which is really just don't soap.

Yeah, I love that. High-end it's dawn soap. Good for ducks. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of stuff that went down over there. The Gulf of Mexico wasn't like a really beautiful place to swim even. It's really nice, actually. Like the waters blew there in certain spots.

Yeah. Like High Island, Texas has like 3,000. Well, no, I'm not saying it was not. What the fuck? Wait, no. So don't take my words out of context. It's not known it to be like the clearest. water. It's a little murky. It's a little murky.

It's a little murky. I mean, I don't mind murky water. Once you get out like 100 miles, though, it's just blue, blue, blue. Well, not all of us. We're not 100 miles. We're right there, big guy? Yeah, we don't all have a boat with that. I mean, I don't think a boat all the time. I took a helicopter. Wow. They pick up, Mike, just dropped. I think helicopter. This is cool. Yes. I'm just saying if you had to choose beaches to go to in the U.S. Galveston wouldn't be a top 10 for me either. The only thing cool about Galveston, Texas is the bar called the poop deck. That's it.

It's a lot of tacos over there. I mean, yeah. Had these rattlesnake earrings, bro, bananas. And she looked like that tan lady, that orange lady. Yeah. She looked like she should have died

from skin cancer. How do you get the name Johnny Pint Glass? So I... He's an alcoholic. So, yeah, so I like, I used to chug beer, like really fast with pine glasses,

but I've definitely, I live in chaos, and I love the altercation. So back then, I used to just smash spying glasses out in people's faces. That's very aggressive. That's what we thought.

So I turned into Johnny Pine Glass. And then it was an eBay handle and I made some money on it. So I was like, no, would you be smashing these glasses? just random people's faces or would they have wronged you? Non-divers.

Yeah, so like, yeah, non-divers. Non-divers. Well, that's not true. Like, we used to. Big T's a non-diver. This is like back in the day. Have you ever dove? No, I, no, I guess not.

Yeah. Well, he has never dove. So if you want to smash a pint glass in his face. I mean, it would be magical. Yeah. And I'll close him out. I'll have the head, but he'll grab him. Jesus.

Because it's so violent. I'm just saying. Johnny Pike, yeah. I know about him. I mean, so is this like if like a fight broke. out your signature move was boom pint glass to the face So I would like

My signature move was honestly Like I would drink like half my beer And I dump it on your face And I don't know why they always look down But they always look down Because you got beer on their chimney juice So it's like a proximity thing It was just because it was always around

It was a Puerto Rican dirty fighting thing Oh now you can talk about race Well I'm Puerto Rican So I think it's not beneath me To take a hit to the face To pick up some dirt off the ground It's like a pint glass in my hand I'm using it

I like the you take the boot sock off with the shocklass That's always going You have time for them Oh yeah Because I'm getting you I'm gonna take a piss

Empty my bladder Get ready Like that wham Yeah And then In terms of being called The legend In the video you said

It was because you can Boof beers No That was him just saying that That was him just being a clown He chugs beers really fast So I always respond with How do you butt chug him

Any different Same technique? Do you wet in lips? Who's the fastest Chugger in this office? Dana Beers? Well, I mean, actually, I have to say Big Cat.

What will be chugging? Big Cat knows how to chug. You have beer? One course light. One? Well, no, we're just seeing like, I'm wondering if you could like outchug everyone in this office. That's a great question when it comes to one core's light. Beer chugging.

So are you, do you muscle it down or you just open your throat and pour down? He relaxes his throat hole. I think that's bullshit. I think that's bullshit. I think there's guys that like just let gravity do the work. I think that's insane. You can't. You can probably suck with these guys.

That spin the bottle first. You ever see those guys? Yeah. The tornado. Oh, I met the inventor of the tornado. First out. There's somebody who claimed to invented the tornado. Pongsai.

No, no. Pongzai? Oh, yeah, Pongzai. Oh, yeah, Pongzai. He's a dude out in China. I think he's the one who brought the tornado to the forefront. No, because if you invented the toilet, I think you get credit for the vortex in water. No, I think.

Or in liquid. I think he definitely popularized. it in China and he and you can I didn't even know it was like a thing though before what were you go wait I didn't I that was the first time I saw it he did that again Billy don't clip that don't clip that

get the browser's logo slapped on look at Billy football get it tech all the technique they call it the vortex watch out caller daddy we got the vortex you got the gluck gluck 9000

we got the vortex damn straight I'm thirsty. I want a beer. I can't drink because I have a fight camp. Fight camp, okay. I'll ask questions. I got this. Fight camp?

You care to explain? I love boxing match, March 3. It might happen. Who are you boxing? The guy dropped out. He's a, you know, Billy McFarland? Yeah, I heard of him. He's a fraud.

He probably backed out of this fight. That escalated quickly. No, he actually is looking. Do you need someone to fight? I got someone you can fight. Who? His name is Bad News Buddy. Okay.

He did a couple amateur at UFC fights. He's a bar room brawler He's out of federal pen He's out of federal pen now He's out of federal pen now He's a fraud now So is Billy He'll fight you right now

No no Billy McFarlane Look him up on your phone Watch this He was the guy Who organized fire fest He's gonna do another one right I invested in that I gave him 17 cents

And said get fucked Okay Click on his Wikipedia And then just read the first line I will not fight Billy football What are you to say? Oh on Wikipedia Yeah. Oh, right here.

Mine says Billy football is a punk. He says fraudster. Yeah, imagine your Wikipedia page just being fraud. I mean, I thought my parents would be disappointed because it's like dirty water, you know, known for diving and shit. Sewer diver.

But I'm not known as a fraud. I mean, some sort of probably am, but not on Wikipedia. He also didn't defraud people of 27.4 million. But are we made? Sewer diving is a very honest day's work. I feel like you guys should be right up there with first responders for,

Wow, that's a bold statement. Hey, everybody poops. You know, the first responders that help you out. Only some clean it. Yes, we were the first responders that came to me. They were a great group of people. I was going from the one hospital to the other and he was following. And I kept FaceTiming him to make sure he was still behind us.

I'm like, Johnny, you're there, buddy? I can't see you. Flash of Eye beams. I was like, I'm trying to drive, bro. And the first responders had a great time with us. It's really feeding indoor bullshit. That's awesome. I enjoyed.

I should knew their names. I gave a shout out. They were great. I took the screenshots of their handles here all along. I feel kind of bad shitting on the Gulf of Mexico because the only place I've been to is St. Petersburg, Florida, and it was nice. Oh, nice. Yeah, I took in Pinellas Park.

My wife went to Eckerd College there. Oh, yeah, it was great. Manatees? Yeah. Manatees, that was cool. I didn't actually know I couldn't touch a manatee. It came up to me like a dog would. So you smacked it.

Get out of here. No, and I remember we were throwing, like, concrete bags over the side of the bill and we were just covering this, like, fire up the cave. You were throwing them in me. I was just placing them. The manate was wearing dags at you? It was clear water. It came right up to me.

And I was like the first real interaction I'd ever had with like a large animal like that underwater. And it was so nice. And I was like 19, I think. Oh, that's dope. I just want the record state. It was like a dog, you know. I know.

Having a pet manate would be the dream. Did you pet it? Yeah. Nice. Yeah. And then they told me to stop petting it. It's illegal. It's illegal.

Really? It's like touching a bison in Yellowstone. Yeah. Hold on. You can't do that either? Well, did you see the tourists? videos of like the place he's like shushing them away

but the cars no like there was a there's a lot of like tourists who come from overseas where they don't have much contact with wildlife and you'll see these big buses of tourists a lot of them from countries where they don't speak English especially with different

Is there a specific demographic you're from alphabets different alphabets so then they get out they can't read any of the signs and then they go and they see these animals and they're like oh fucking ride it yeah it's a language barrier that's a language Touching a large animal. The alphabet, especially non-romance language.

I don't know if you know this, but there's no sign in the world that's going to be mean in front of a large animal. I'm going to go, well, I can't read it, so fuck it. Let me pet it. Maybe that's just me. But then they get tossed, like rodeo-style tossed. And I don't say that I enjoy watching the video. But it's hilarious. I watch that.

Not saying I'm a fan, but I subscribe. If they don't die, it's funny. Yeah. And you can get eight seconds? But they get tossed What is the crime though Are they charged something? Same thing as touching a manatee

Yeah What's the fine? Like you can't touch a whale So no I mean I've I've touched a whale shark Yeah I had a girlfriend No in mind Yeah well this is like In the Philippines you can actually dive with whale sharks

And I don't think it's great for them Because now they've just become dependent On all the tourists feeding them So they show up to the same spot every day But swimming with those things things was incredible um but yeah if you're wondering what's the fine there was a florida guy arrested for harassing a manatee and he was put in jail and held on 25,000 dollar bail so how much for buffalo it's got to be pretty serious but like yeah you pay for that you don't have to pay a fine

you pay for it with your body yeah a pound of flesh oh like someone got you on video touch yeah yeah i remember this one vid went viral was a drunk florida guy like just riding a Oh, yeah. Well, you deserve that. Did he bring a rope with them? Like, how did he? No, he was just holding on to the back and the manate. He was like taking them back and forth.

They hang out near nuclear power plants because the water's so warm. Yeah. Well, we have that with the eels and like the, well, we're diving. Great story. So no one told me. I first started in the industry. No one said that the eels were attracted to the holes and to hot water, right? So I'm digging a hole under Chelsea Pierce.

I'm digging a hole around a pile, right, in the morning. So I unplugged my hot. because I'm like melted ice cream. I get a little warm. Yeah. And I'm sweating. So I unplug my hots. They're just draped down next to me.

I'm digging a hole, right? So I'm dig a hole. I come up for lunch. I go back down. I get in the hole. I plug my hots in, get a little bit of hot in there. And then I unplug my huts.

And I turn off the valve on my hot water suit to keep out the longest I could keep it in. So I'm working whenever I end the day. I take another shot before I have a really long travel to get out of the water. Because we're deep under Chelsea Pierce. I get up the surface. I unplug my hot. I'm talking to my brother. And I'm like, what my pants are moving?

Now I'm wearing chafing gear. I'm wearing overalls above my wetsuit. And I had an eel that was attracted to the hot water in between my wetsuit and my coveralls. Now, when you said it was attracted to all things. That's in a horror movie. That's in like a sci-fi movie. I'm screaming, screaming bloody murder. Because this eel came out of my, my, my, my, my, my,

foot and the insult injury James Spader, the actor from Blacklist Oh yeah. So he's like about 10 feet from me because that's where the studio is for SVU and Blacklist was on that pier. And I turn and now he's laughing at me. So James Spader's making fun

of me. You know, my entire crew is laughing at me and his eels fighting for its life. It's still in there. It's out now. After I got done crying, I got it out and now it's on deck just flopping around. And no one's saving this poor thing. James Peter's laughing.

And then he tried to bomb a cigarette off you, right? That was later on in life. Yeah, every time he took taking cigarettes off of the comms box. And finally, I remember Dave Radish? Yeah. So Dave Radish was my coms guy. Dave Radish, like, it's a guy with a funny hat. I'm like, who the fuck?

Oh, my God. Something maybe it was like a hard hat or someone that had a different hard hat on or something like a sticker or something on it. Because Dave, I like Dave, but yeah, Dave. So Dave was like someone with a funny hat. So I just talked up to that. It ended up being, yeah, he was fucking. coming by and bumming cigarettes.

Nice guy, though. Not even bumming. He was just walking over and taking your six. And he, uh, go on the con. I'm grabbing to smoke. I thought it was a worker. I thought it was someone else's work. It was a big job.

There was like maybe 15 hours in that location. Dude, I did a paper mill and, uh, I don't know, it was just a screen, uh, water treatment facility in, uh, Connecticut. Like this was a long time ago. But I remember getting down to bottom and basically there's screens that they call them trial and water screens and they just come and just, they're the last defense so that junk doesn't make it into their water screen. The conveyor belt screens?

Yeah. Yeah. So you got to go and you got to find a specific one, then you got to remove it to get inside of it. So you're, instead of crawling through a sewer, you're crawling through this rectangular cut, and you've got to get inside this conveyor belt,

basically underwater and do an inspection in there. But when you get down that hole, I mean, it's dark, dark, it's a concrete room, you know? And I get all the way to bottom. I was young. So we have these old shit moments where we're just like,

you don't want to say nothing, but you were scared out of your fucking mind. So that did, that restraint didn't happen that day. I screamed like a bitch. So I was, I get down the bottom and my hot water suit's just pumping, you know? And I remember feeling like these little hands coming up like my wetsuit.

They were like, no joke. They were like crawling and pulling my wetsuit up. I was like, oh my God, dude, I jumped up like a cat. I was like, what is that? And they're like, what's going on? And they're laughing, dude. So I'm like putting my feet on bottom again. And I feel it again.

I was like, fuck that, dude. There's something down here. I don't know what's up. And they're like, so they're like, we'll send you a bucket. Just grab it. I'm like, sure. I'm going to go at it real quick. So I'm like hanging off this thing

and I put a milk crate down. I wound up scooping up the bottom. And as they're pulling this milk crate up, they're jumping out of the milk crate, whatever it is I had, and they're all landing on me now. So now they're all on my neck. I'm like, oh my God, up on me, dude.

So I get out of there. I wind up being like the mud puppies, the salamanders. And I'd never seen one before. But they were strong. How about the horseshoe crabs? Do you ever get those? And you grab them?

Dude, the horseshoe crabs. You're like, what the fuck? They walk right on top of you when you're working some tables. Horshoe crabs are cool. Crabbs. One of the only crabs people don't eat. I've never heard of someone who eats horser crab. We use their blood for medicine.

They're black makeup. They're running low now. It's big money. That's real big money. The crabs, the regular crabs. I'm not sure any kind of species of them. As a diver, you can vouch for this shit, dude. If there's a crab in front of you, right, on the bottom, it's like,

angry. You know damn fucking weather. There's 20 behind you. They travel in packs? Yeah, they're something called pods. And there's always like one, like in my eyes, like a one scout that comes down, distract you and the other ones are walking behind you well they'll eat you my step on them yeah if you're dead they'll just eat your whole body that's why you take a body i've heard the mob

guys they'll wrap it in a chain link fence and they throw it in the harbor right with center blocks in it yeah what it does is it keeps the body on bottom right and the crabs get in there and they get stuck and they continue eating your body oh my god yeah so who who's i don't know what was it's organic yeah someone said it's delicious vegan friendly um if uh you come up with a chain fence wrap with tarp inside it just leave alone yeah leave it alone my god because i know i never come across one yet but i was about a young age i was told you come across that you keep moving huh there's a couple of things you just don't touch down you get you guys found like a couple guns and stuff right you're telling us about and a body i've never found any guns that around my life

couple bodies no one it stops it not about the body so much it sucks it just the fact that sometimes you're just doing something and you're grab it and you just you grab onto it it's a hand or a foot that's lodged somewhere and you're like what the fuck dude so now it's not so much a yelling thing now it's more like you've learned like throughout your career you go scream like a little bitch and then you just don't scream anymore and just silently deal with what's happening yeah and then you're like oh yeah there's a body but now I learned when you find a body fun fact I take the watch right away what you do I take and the wallet so now if you find a body and fun fact you're emotionally distraught and you can't perform your duties oh yeah um you have to

pay me disability yeah oh so you guys have been you guys have been shutting up about you Yeah, I'm not like, hold me. I'm so scared. I got eight, eight recovery. I only got one. Dude, I mean, I've come across a lot, but I don't call in. Well, if you got eight, you probably still can get back pay. Yeah, but hey, I saw eight bodies.

I'm scared. Yeah, I'm scared. I can't go on swimming pools. I can't even take a shower. The water hit in. Yeah, it's bad. It's bad news. Now, I smell.

My wife's leaving me. Yeah. I'm scared in English and in Spanish. Yeah. Yeah. By both? Dos. Dos.

Yes. Oh, man. But what are you? saying about the clearance like a lot of cops won't even like show up because they don't want to take on a click so yeah we found body parts or i came across a femur so i found a bone and i took a photo of it and i sent it to a friend of mine who's a surgeon and i was like hey what do you think it's this you that's a female femur bone dead to rights oh that was a quick diagnosis how can you be so sure i had a dollar bill next to because let's face it i've watched the bone collector quite a few times

I knew to put the dollar bill there. So I had to enroll the dollar bill, lay it down, strain it out, put it there next to it. And when I called and said, yeah, so he called it in. And we waited and waited and waited. Two days later, sorry, dose days later, they showed up and they picked it up. We've had bodies hit the pavement

and they're covered with a tarp and they're coming six, seven hours later to get them. Where the fuck have you been? They don't want none of that. Where'd you find it? Floating over here? Okay. Yeah, I mean, we learned that like,

50% of murders go unsolved. I think those numbers are low. I think it's more than 50%. I mean, yeah. In New York? What's the average crime rate? It's just 72 hours. It's like 90% you're not going to find the person.

Yeah. But I feel like a lot of the times when someone tries to just dump a body in the ocean, it washes up on shore like a week or two later. Yeah. So that's why the chain link. Yeah. Yeah, that's why you got a real. You got to think I had, you know.

Those guys were science. Yeah. Smat. Bill Nye's disposing bodies. This is what you need to do, right? Yeah. Not that I'm calling Bill Nye, a murderer. Well, hey, I would I would love to get back in the water

at some point. Let's go. What are we doing this afternoon? Well, not necessarily in the East River, but a body of water. I think it would be cool. That would be awesome like dive at shipwreck. Warm. No. Yeah.

Please specify warm. Warm. Like, you're just shipwrecks here, bro. Yeah. So there's a. Wait for the summer. The water warms up. in commercial diversers, you know what I mean?

I see some guys recently that come across our lives have not made that distinction, and they think that just because they die, they can beat commercial divers divers. And they're not. And they classify as commercial divers. So the shipwreck thing is, like, great if you're a scuba diver. And the commercial divers, as crazy as we are, we know that is kind of reckless. And we don't like doing that. Unless there's gold in there and then it becomes then we're going to fuck with it. And then it's commercial diver thing. We would

love to get in there. So let's plan somewhere. I mean, nice. Something warm. Something with, I know, umbrellas in the drinks. if I was, you know, maybe suggest something after your fight so you can partake in the big umbrellas. Yeah. The fight might be off. I might be drinking today. Wanton-Tan's right here, brother. If I almost died and drunk with you two days later, you can have a beer

before your fight. No, but that's like this mentality. It's just like, I'm ready, my bodies. Oh, I've done everything I can. No, but more, it's like, how many positions can you do? If I, I can probably do 200 with the span of 20 minutes. Yeah. I got time. I got to stop watching. I did them already today. Like, actually. Oh, okay.

I'll face you in a morning. It's one of those things where it's like, if I had that one beer, like, that could make me lose. Oh, so you're buying a bag and you're not going home for a week. I get it. Oh, you're that guy. Yeah, I get that. That's all right. No, no, no, no, not like that.

Cool your guy. Yeah, no, it's like, he's like, no, like, it's like, no, like, it's, I don't know. We do like a little rough and rowdy three, one minute rounds, but like you still got to take it seriously. Like, you could get hit the wrong way. Oh, yeah. Where's that at? It's in West Virginia. What was?

Can I go? Yeah, yeah, we could get you to get a backseat. Yeah, I'm going to call. I'm going to call the guy to try to like basically bully him into signing this document to fight me. Wow. Because he was like into it. Now he's like back and out. It's the whole thing.

I mean, tell her headgear, tell her headgear. I'll fight you. Tell him it's on the up and up. No fraud, nothing. Yeah, it's all straight up. This is real money. This is an actual paycheck. You don't have to scamming from anybody or nothing.

You don't have to train. You just have to get in that ring. and just like fight three rounds yeah how much money are we talking to fight you for three rounds just like you're just

what are you worth for three minutes Billy McFarlan because he's like a pseudo-seleb yeah Dave thinks that will help sell a lot of

PPVs so he was going to get paid more than most people want to see him get his ass kicked yeah I'll take a dive for like seven bucks

not a problem bro just touch me you are a diver I'm like oh he got me he got me he's a legend

save me you better not talk when you are today okay yeah yeah We need some real beef. Like our boss isn't going to let you fight Billy because he knows you guys don't have actual beef.

I'm actually like I like Billy McFarland scamming people. You don't like after after like fucking talk to him and him just like trying to like worm his way out of this like like with all sorts of shit. I actually want to beat the shit out of him now. He's like piss me off. So it's no longer like about you want to just throw hands. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like literally easily. No, but he could easily made. Yeah. Let me a bitch. He would have both easily made. a shit ton of money from this fight and he's just like But do you think he needs the money?

Well, he doesn't need it. Oh no, he really needs it. He's got restitution. Like he needs money. Well, you beat up Poseidon Sanko already. Yeah. You already have to be. Yeah, when you said that in the boat,

I'm not going to lie to you. I was a little like bullshit. I was like, this fucking guy. Yeah, okay. Yeah, he did, right? I'm like, Google that when he just got rid of high school. And I'm a boat like this. Yeah.

My motherfucking did it. I was like verify that. It's one of the funny-ass things. Like, imagine if you had to like go to like a some sort of orientation and tell like two what are your strong suits to jose my right my right hand like yeah two truths to the lie like oh like went to the bottom of the east river i dove chernoboble and i knocked out jose can say go to the guys gonna be like god damn so you didn't go to the east river so chnoble's a lie right what'd you do it was like fucking anyway you've had a pretty crazy year my man good for you

yeah this life yeah you about that life huh yeah just you know why live an average life yeah plenty can do that. This is a whole room full of people who's just like, hey, fuck it. Like, I'm not sitting in a cubicle. No, we're sitting there crunching numbers going, if I fuck around, will I in fact find out? Fuck a cubicle. I'm going to work in the sewer. Cubicles are for losers. Yes. The respect to everybody in a cubicle. Right now,

listen. Yes. Yes. You, you guys make this happen. Not every day in the sewers is all it's chocked up to be. If it wasn't for you guys, we wouldn't be able to do this. No, I think I still would. I don't think they really. Yeah, people are still shit. Yeah. Have a job. Without the cubicle, we would be nothing.

So thank you, Cuban. Are you thanking the people in the cubicle or the cubicle itself? I mean, whatever they're doing is helping society function. What are they scamming people? Well, well, then what? Selling subprime mortgages. I mean, you know, it's a real thing. Scammers, I mean, there's a place in society for scammers.

Yeah, it's called India. It's to a few. Yeah, that's what it's called. It's to, you know, someone's got to like be in the prisons and help the prison guards make money, like, you know? That is the worst how old guy I've ever about prisons in my life.

It's a circle of life. Yeah, the big one, eat the little one. Yeah, so they get people jobs. Everyone's got a like a job. Like, yeah, if it wasn't for scammers, a lot of people would be unemployed to find them. That's fair. Yeah.

Huh. Yeah, every job keeps the economy running. Yeah. So if we want to go find some shipwrecks, look up the guy, Clive Custler. He was a, he was an author. Yeah, he was an author, but he also started his own like,

shipwreck exploring company and found a lot of ship. He found the ship that sunk the U-boat that sunk the Lusitania, which started World War I. He found the American Civil War ship, the CSS H.L. Henley. He found the first Confederate ironclad warship. I've seen that. And he passed away not too long ago. He passed away in 2000, in 2020. We really could use them for the bottom.

So the world needs a new shipwreck discoverer of sorts. We actually work with the guy, Vadim, dove some Lusitania stuff, didn't you? Yeah, he dove it. He dove it too. He dove the Lusitania? Bob did it do it too. While we were in Brooklyn at Brooklyn Park, rebuilding that, you're welcome. They, I found 300 pounds of copper, like, an ignorant, just like solid copper block.

Yep. And my boy, Mike Dionne helped me pull it out of the water. And it's in my basement. Can I have half of it? I think everyone else wants half of it. I want to touch it. But I think it actually belongs in a museum. and someone told me they're like

the lucidine used to dock there drop stuff off and I'm like I don't know he did I don't know why it would be shaped the way it's shaped because it looked like a ballast weight so I got to find like someone that's specialized in that because I'm in all the people

on Google and no one has an image I got a list of experts I can ask wow no seriously it's called Billy's list it's just a list is just a list of like very highly tant can I be on there if you know like toilet questions

yes okay yes we got plumbers we got everybody But you have a guy Who like knows a lot about copper Are you on Angie's list right now? No, no, it's like Basically a Discord account I made just like

I just signed up for that There's some crazy somebody's on there Discord's the Wild West Yeah, I love it Yeah, it's weird I've really used it I just got the guys from Boneyard Alaska The one son

He was telling me to go on it Because they were doing an East River Tall I got to start one of those So I went on it And it is truly the Wild West Yeah I was on the Wall Street

Betts one. Like, it was insane, bro. Oh, what it was happening? Oh, yeah. I made a ton on AMC. Really? I have no scaring. I'm actually starting new interview. We're now talking with Johnny who made money on AMC. How'd that work? Dude, why'd you buy? I saw it go way too low and I was like, yeah, I'm going to jump in on this, dude, real quick. And I jumped in a little late, but I was in and out. I made a bunch on a penny water stock. My buddy told me about like five years ago.

Oh, damn. Oh, you're telling me. I've made zero money in the stock market. I bought it at like triple 05 and I wanted to have having like a 289 plus like return on that. That was wild. I, by the way, I think this interview has been going for how long, almost an hour, two hours? Yeah, I got a piss. Yeah, I have one last question. Okay, eight inches, sir, eight inches. Have you guys ever been in a submarine and do you know anyone who could get me in a submarine?

I went to school with a kid named Chris Aish. He was a submarine guy. He was like high ranking in the submarine world. That's about the extent of my number. knowledge in submarines. Now there is one in Hackensack, New Jersey. Well, that's like, I want to be in a submarine that's actually moving underwater. My neighbors are all chiefs in the Navy as I live right by the ground sub-based in Connecticut. Yeah. And the neighbor across the street, he was a commander. So the guy that took his spot is like down the block. So I can ask. Yeah, I've always just

or like, yeah, I've always wondered if you can just, if there's like some sort of company that can, that does. You get a Groupon, go on a sub. Pleasure cruises, but. My wife would love that. But in a sub. Like you do a booze cruise, but it's underwater and you're in a sub. They do have the cocaine runners to have the submarines. No, they have a spot that you can rent that. It's expensive, but I've seen videos that. I don't know if it's in Chile or what. Really? Like you can do a cruise like sub, they have a whole submarine. It's a small one, but you can get it. When that invite list comes out, just, yeah, we want tickets for that. Well, I have a lot of time. I just, I would like to say I've gone on a sub ride once in my life. Really? Yeah. I'm not any. Well, you

You still have time. Yeah, but with the same age, I feel like I'm behind you now. It's very rare. I want to get in a blimp and I want to get in a sub. Apparently there's only, there's only like 30 blimps left in the world. Something crazy. I know. Well, that's one of 30.

Yeah. I think, yeah, how many blimps? I think it's like 11. How many? Where they, 25 blimps in the whole world. Yeah, think about that. That's insane. How many are in Germany?

They don't have a good history of blimps. Yeah. No, they used to have a lot of flints. They used to have like luxury blimps that you could take across the Atlantic. But that all... China has balloons. Yep. Yeah.

China's got balloons soon. They had balloons. Too soon. That's my fault. They got actually one's going over South America right now. Yeah. Chopping balloons everywhere. Probably just got a rocket to it.

Much of turtles and to grab it. Well, they... All right. Well, we can wrap up the interview. Thanks for coming in. Thanks for having us. Come again. We love to have you. Yep.

I'll be here tomorrow. I think this is the longest macro dosing interview ever. That's great. But you guys have done macro dosing episodes that have been like four hours. Now, do we get mushrooms when we leave? Is it complimentary? Oh, yeah. No, that's only at the water shows.

You got a wing, show them your ass. You go to the bodega and then just ask for like the chocolates. And they'll, they'll, so that's courtesy of us. That's totally not like backwards, like legal in New York. You can actually just buy mushrooms at the bodega. Really? Yeah, that's wild. out of it, no?

Yeah, it's like a candy bar. She's like, yeah, it does. There's one guy of Larry used to love him. He had to sell his lap to buy some of those. Oh, so weird. That's pretty about. He had the best stuff, though. High school was weird.

And now back to our regular scheduled programming. Okay, welcome back to macro dosing. Hope you enjoyed the interview. They obviously had a lot of technical terms they discussed. I don't know if you could follow all of it, but I'm sure you got the gist. I don't think we need to go over. much more diving stuff no yeah they really hit every nail on the head we covered a lot of ground so uh i think unfortunately a lot of the other people in the room just were uh chilling during the

interview and we need to reawaken them to rejoin the podcast welcome back guys yeah hey mad dog hey every it's up um do you want to talk about the fact that it's our hundredth episode we didn't talk about technically it's we're not it's this is the lost episode 99.5. Yeah, it's like the arrow hitting the target continuum where, like, if you like cut in half every time an arrow gets to the target, like it never touches a target if you just keep halving the distance until it gets there. Yes.

Now, you guys are including the nanodosings in the, okay, no. Basically, it's 100 topics that we've covered. Let's go. Yeah. But also we have no adults. supervision right now. Donnie, you're the adult. Yeah, you're the adult.

Yes, I'm the adult in the room. Aryan had to bounce. I don't know if you had a bunch of diving questions or not. If he does, I can get those answered for you, Aaron. Don't worry. The archer's paradox. The archer's paradox? Are we going to dive into that right now or are we going to wrap up the pod?

Actually, it's the wrong one. Okay. Big T. thanks for being a good sport and hopping off the couch for them yeah yeah it's good i i the mic over there didn't work so yeah i don't know i didn't know a lot about diving to begin with but have you ever dove i was wondering that um in a pool okay have you ever used scuba gear no would you ever use that to say if you were down in the caribbean wanted to no i did uh over Christmas I got talked into snorkeling and I hate the ocean I hate fish I got talked

into snorkeling that's as much as I'll ever do where'd you do it was it wasn't St. Lucia it was some uh aruba maybe okay no it wasn't aruba somewhere down there I don't know I don't remember which island it was and did you enjoy it um once I got over how much I hate the ocean We were thankfully high enough that, like, all the fish and stuff were below us by a pretty significant margin. So that was okay. I mean, when you're snorkeling, you're on the surface of the water. So I assume all the fish are going to be below you. Well, it was, but it was like pretty deep.

It wasn't like, you know, if they were like right below me, I wouldn't do it. Oh, okay. They were, okay. So you're like. They were probably 15 feet below you. So sea life makes you uneasy. Hate it. Okay.

Oh, that's a shame. Yeah, not a fan. Yeah. I knew Trent always hated the ocean. But now he's like, he just booked a trip to Hawaii, which sounds like a weird place to go if you hate the ocean. Well, he's from a landlocked state, right? Yeah, and he always used to write blogs about like how much he hates the ocean. You can just chill on the beach.

It's loki and Midwestern thing. Yeah. The landlocked states just don't fuck with the ocean. No, not at all. And you grew up landlocked, right? No, Georgia. Georgia. Yeah, but did you grow up like near the coast of Georgia?

are pretty far inland. But it's not a landlock state, though. No, no, no. You guys have got a beautiful coastline. I went to Savannah, Georgia over this past Christmas. It was beautiful. Is it on the Gulf of Mexico? No.

You know where Georgia is. Dine doesn't recognize Gulf of Mexico. Also, I was going to say, and you said St. Petersburg, Clearwater, Florida, Great Beach. Yeah, yeah. No, I enjoyed the coast there, so I felt bad about shitting on the Gulf of Mexico. Your Gulf of Mexico slaybers. I was more thinking of like the Alabama coast.

I don't know. Does, like, Mobile Alabama have any nice beaches? I don't know. Some people like to go down there. I don't, but like the Florida Gulf Coast, Naples, Great Beach. Yes, yep, yep. I'm going to Florida next week. I'm so excited.

You go into the blue collar Gulf of Mexico side or the Ritzie, Atlantic Caribbean side? Um, I think I'm going Ritzy. What city is it? Yeah. Going to, um, somewhere near. Sarasota. I'll give you that much. I actually don't know where Sarasota is. Yeah, I assume you're going to the Ritzies side.

There's nothing wrong with that. Oh. By the, I just like to... Oh, no. Am I? Yeah, I was going to say, I think Sarasota is the Gulf Coast. Am I blue collar in it? Blue collar, baby.

Yeah. I know. I know. I am. Well, we'll enjoy the cult coast. There's a lot of money in Sarasota. Yeah. Yeah. Naples, too. Naples is really rich. Yeah. Let's go.

You're going to have. a blast. I know. I'm taking like a little president's day getaway. You deserve it. Thanks. Thanks, Donnie.

Mad Duck does work hard. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks, guys. Enjoy that. Oh, are we off on Monday? I'm not. Yeah.

I don't think we are like we are. We, yeah, we don't. Well, Billy's in if I can't. No days off. I guess. Just want to make correction. Zoom is not a Chinese company, but some of its shareholders are

so I don't think they may be selling all the data to China I think we just wanted to correct that you're getting flame for that take well it had it's a there's I don't know TikTok is though selling our data to China that's been confirmed right oh yeah

like untold amounts stuff that no other app has ever done before Like your eye motions, right? It's, I don't know all of it, but it's an outrageous amount of stuff. They know our eye motions? Fuck. Or you know what I mean? Like where you look on the screen.

Oh, yeah, yeah. So they can see us when we're scrolling. Also, it's listening through your microphone. Holy shit. Yeah, that's been happening a lot. I'll say something that I'll open up my app and boom. I'll open up my phone and boom, it's there, whatever I was talking about. Oh, yeah.

Also, before we go, I just. I just want to thank all the macrodosians. They are flooding the New Jersey Performing Arts Center social medias with Justice for Big T and Boycott NJPack. We love to see that. Thank you guys. Big T, any update on Big T. Mowers? So I think Thursday night we're going to have a stream.

Well, that would technically be tonight. Right. But so we're going to work on it. We're recording today Wednesday. We're going to try to do a test run today just to see if. if it'll work. And if all goes well, we will stream tonight, which is Thursday. We'll do a nice little stream, have everybody come on. And if not, we might push it back like a week until we can like get it finite and good. At some point soon, there will be a stream. Yeah, for sure, with

merch. Merch is coming out. We're already in the works with that. We also, we're going to do like our 100th episode celebration. When everyone comes back, we'll have merch for that as well. Very exclusive. I think we're only releasing like 100 shirts. So look forward to that. sweet oh did you guys see that they're designing medieval weaponry for the Chinese Indian border war did you see that

no some reason that slipped mine I just remember this I just remember that so you know how China India is like border skirmishes yeah I've seen the fights yeah they're not allowed to use guns and they're just like there's been videos

with them just fist fighting each other and like one of those or just using like sticks yeah well now they're just coming out with straight of medieval weaponry so like like a mace yeah spiked mace like you know what my favorite medieval weapon is i forget what it's fucking called it's that thing that's like it's like an axe but it's also got a point to it oh oh i know what you're talking about um looks fucking sick a halberd yeah halberd dude i could do so much damage with a halberd, but I'm happy.

I don't have to. Here, let me send it. So not enough people are talking about the fact that nuclear powers India and China are developing medieval combat weapons for fighting the Himalayas because they agreed not to use guns. So, yeah, the Chinese developed a straight-up mace. Let me send this to the group. It's freaking wild.

It's like modern soldiers holding maces. I would much rather get shot than hit with a mace. Yeah. It's much more sterile, Donnie, I just sent it to you. That's my argument about getting knife versus being shot.

Like, getting shot is sterile. Yeah, because the bullet's so hot, it kills all the germs. Yeah, like, imagine if someone stabs someone with the knife and stabs you with the knife. Do you check, check, isn't that insane? Oh, yeah, yeah, fuck. Yeah, yeah. For those listening at home, there's like, yeah, that's a mace. It's just like a, it's like a staff.

It's like a long mace. Yeah, it's like a spiked, like the, like the, like the. tail of an ancliosaur. Yeah, that's spot on. Or like a dildo with a bunch of spikes coming out of it attached to a pole. Yeah.

A black dildo. Medieval weapons. Indian China. Well, maybe that will... Yeah, let's end it on that. Yeah. Hopefully the mace leads to an end of the skirmishes

because they're all like, nope, this isn't worth getting maced over. Yeah, just... Hopefully more videos leak so we can see this video. We can see this thing in action. You make a pay-per-view? Oh, you know, the video we should do, have you seen the medieval, like, fights

where the people put on armor and, like, fight each other with, like, dulled weapons? I've seen people doing that, yeah. Yeah, I think that would be a sick video. Yeah, if we can find people doing it around here. Yeah. I think there's, like, a New York City medieval combat. Like, LARPERS or?

No, no, like, straight up. These are the real deal. They're, like, cool LARPers. Like medieval throwdowns. All right. Any voicemails before we leave? Do you want to do some? I think I have like two. Sure.

Is it a... Should we do it without Arian PFT? No, we should save them on. Yeah, let's save them. All right. Thanks for listening, guys. Hope you enjoyed it. Love you guys. See you guys for a nanodose.

And then for our 100th episode celebration. Celebration. We're going to dress up like old people. Like, it's the 100th day of kindergarten. We're going to do like 100 day of schools type stuff. Your favorite 100 day of school thing, DM it? to any of us so we can do it and live out our dreams of a hundred days. Did you ever have to bring in like a hundred of something?

Yeah. Yeah. Well, let's do that. We did toothpick. The toothpick. I never knew that was even a thing to celebrate. Yeah. You were in a hundredth day of school.

I never heard of this either. It was always around Valentine's Day. Like it was always around this time of year. So I was brought in a hundred of the little chalk hearts with the little like call me on it. Dude, I just remember a kid. This is like blast from past memory. Like a kid brought in a hundred dollar bill. Oh, good one.

And it was like everyone, and it was the back when like $100 was just like unfathomable. Yeah, because you're in kindergarten. Yeah, and you're just like, what the fuck? This kid brought in $100? Like you can like buy the school. Meanwhile, I had like a hundred toothpicks. Just because I was like, mom, dad, I need a hundred things.

And they're like, here's toothpicks. Yeah. Count out a hundred. It's going to take forever. Bye, guys. Bye. Love you all. Hmm.