Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Domestication ft. Brandon McMillan

Episode Date: June 21, 2022

On today's episode of Macrodosing, we welcome on special guest Brandon McMillan (1:13:06) to talk all about expert dog training and the domestication of wild animals. It's a fantastic interview. Also, you'll hear an update on Billy Football and why he'll be off the pod for a bit. All of this and more on the show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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We are just right off the bat. Let's talk about it. We're going to talk about it. We're minus. We're down a man. Well, Coley is obviously dealing with rearing a young child, nursing a child to become a young woman. He's a girl dad now. And so milking it.

Mielking it. Coley's probably breastfeeding. Get sponsored by fucking Bordens or something. That motherfuckerucking milking this shit. There's, uh, I think Coley can breastfeed. I'll just say it. He strikes me as the kind of guy that lactates. I'm not, that's not a comment about his body type at all.

I'm just saying, like, I could see Coley. Just one of those strap on, meet the fuckers, breast strap milk thing. Yeah, yeah, he's being a good dad, very hands-on. And so we're, we're accepting of that. He can take as much time as he needs on his paternity leave. We are down another person, though, today. We will be absent Billy football. And we talked about it a little bit on part of my take that came out yesterday,

but he's also going to be off this podcast for the, next month. We're going to miss them, but it's for his own good. And I think that he'll come back from this stronger and he'll be a more productive member of both podcasts. So that's kind of where we're at right now. Sorry, I had to burp. I wasn't crying. I promised. I got all my tears out last night. No, we're going to be fine. Billy's going to be fine. And we're going to welcome him back with open arms because I'm sure he's going to have a great month off the show. And then he'll come back stronger than ever. So that means that Big T is sitting in Billy's seat. And we'll see if Big T has the chops to keep it.

I think it'll be sure. Yeah. Did y'all talk about, y'all talk about why? A little bit. Yeah, we talked a little bit why he missed. Let's make something up. Let's start, let's make something up.

Okay. Let's see. Billy, um, Billy put a stick in Joe Biden's bicycle and knocked him over. He got arrested. He's in jail for attempted assassination. Like Big T said, that should be punished the same thing as if he had actually killed the president.

So I'm going to go with, he actually did go to Chinatown because he was getting made fun of and he broke into a exotic animal store and he's now doing hard time because he's still in exotic animals. We could have seriously made something up like we just did the Hillary episode. We could have totally like made it seem like he disappeared because of doing the Hillary episode. Yeah, we just don't know where Billy is. Yeah.

So actually today's topic is going to be the best frogs. This is going to be the frog episode of Maddox. So right off the top, we're ranking the best frogs. Let's put together graphic for this. What are the best frogs as officially decided by macrodosing? Since I'm sitting where Billy usually sits, I'll go ahead and do what he would do. Tree Frog, I believe is his favorite frog. So that's my number one.

Okay. The one that they put on textbooks, he loves that frog. Yeah, the tree frog. Yes, exactly. The one that's on the macrodosing T-shirt, the one that we sold more of than the other frog. Okay. I'm going to say tree frog number one. Number two, I'm going to go with

the Warner Brothers Frog. You know that guy? Yeah, tip of the hat. You like that guy? I mean, I don't know him. Him above Kermit? It's good frog. You know, actually, yeah, if we're going, if we're going,

you got to go Kermit, number one. If we're going frogs. I mean, he's an all-time, he's a goat frog. You know who go over the Warner Brother Frog is the binja binja bit from Gola Gola Island. what's that what's that you don't know benya benya from gola gala type in gola gola island man is that a tv show well yeah it was it went all it came on like with barney and and and lamb chops and all them shits i've never heard of lamb chops that thing is so scary lamb chops you never heard of lamb chop

this is the song that does in and on and on my friend some people started singing it not knowing what it was and they'll keep singing it forever just because because this is a song that doesn't end, or never ends. And it just keeps going on and on and on. Yeah. All right, Gola Gola Island. I can't believe I don't know Gola Gola Island. Wow.

Yeah, it's a pretty cool frog. It's a big yellow frog. He was cool. The whole Gola Island, it was like a vibe. I like the paper frogs that you can make origami and then you just push on their backs and they hop. They bounce. Those are good frogs. Those are good frogs.

What are some other good frogs? French people? That's what you call them. You call them frogs? What? You've never heard that? It's like a slur for French people. Yeah.

What is the, what is the diss? I don't understand. Don't they eat frog legs? Yeah, Granuille. Oh. They eat Jean de Grenuie, which is frog legs, which are delicious, by the way. I don't know if you guys have ever had. I don't like the videos.

Have you seen the videos of the people who pour the hot oil on the frog legs? Oh, yeah. And they're dead and then they, oh, that's, I'm out. Then they expand. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like in, in Trubilly fashion, a big one. that he talks about is the African bullfrog.

Oh, yeah. He does talk about that one. And then snapping turtle, number five. Yeah. For best frogs. Yeah. So let's make a graphic. Five, snapping turtle, four, paper frogs.

Three, African bullfrog. Two, you want to go tree frog or Kermit the frog? Kermit. And then tree frog is one. Three frogs. Billy's favorite frog in honor of him. That's the official list of best frogs. Yeah.

On macrodosing. but yeah so billy'll be back on he's going to be active doing like the uh i think he's going to manage the discord yeah because we don't have a manager for that i i dubbed him had like he has to figure out the discord okay billy's in georgia figuring out the discord thank you for everyone who's joined it so far though it's it's popping in there we yeah we need some mods i know i i've learned that a mod is what's needed in there and we'll get that that's billy's job it's a it's a free for all right now that's billy's job all right we've wasted enough time can we talk about Joe Biden falling off the bike please yes yes we can I mean we spent five minutes not

talking about Joe Biden falling off the bike not only him falling off the bike do you see Trump's response to him falling off the bike no oh it's great I was oh he posted a meme was he like riding a skateboard no it's him swinging the golf club and the golf ball hits Joe Biden off the bike it's unbelievable awesome all right so big T walk is through it tell me about Joe Biden falling off the bike I've been thinking about this nonstop I have to imagine that your brain right now. It's just a continuous loop of Joe Biden falling off the bike. It was Saturday morning. I didn't, I thought it was a joke. I didn't think it was real. I was like, holy shit,

that guy looks like Joe Biden. And then I was like, there are a lot of cars like following it. I couldn't believe it was real. Because the video cuts off right as he falls. I was like, why would it cut off there? And it was from like a first name bunch of numbers account. Apparently it was real. I can't believe the Secret Service like let that get out. Yeah. Well, there were a lot of people with cameras around. There were alternate angles too. it's wild uh i don't think we live in that country though do we no but it is but i mean don't you think they try to stop no i don't think so really i think that's good for anything any any politician that has any kind of public blunder it's good no no like what does they say no bad

news or what is what is it saying any news is good news wait you think that this is a good thing for biden absolutely go on i'm just saying if you're if you're if you're if you're if you're in the news cycle, it's a good thing for you as a politician. Because there's no such thing as like getting embarrassed publicly anymore. That just doesn't exist. I mean, he has like the lowest approval ratings of anyone we've ever had. The economy's tanking and now he's falling off a bike. Well, I feel like that that statement is going to be the case for every president from here on now. I'm, this is my bold prediction. So I don't know this for a fact. So you might have to fact check me on it. But I think that Trump was lower in his approval rate. Maybe. But

he's historically low. I'm not like saying that Joe Biden is doing a good job. I'm not saying that Joe Biden is well liked. But I kind of, I know what Aryan's saying, which is it, we're so polarized right now that it's going to be impossible for a president to have like above a 60% approval rating. He's currently at 39 with nearly 50% of Americans strongly disapproving. Right. I remember Trump being like a 33 and I'm not even, I'm not even banking on Trump, but I just remember. And it depends on what poll and all that shit, whatever. The point is, I highly doubt that there's ever going to be a president above like a 50 ever again because there's just no like what who's going to be the ultimate uniter like Andrew Yang is literally trying to make a other party and the majority of America's like you fuck off bro it's it's fucking

hilarious it's like it's not going to happen there's just no more there's no more like we like this guy there's no more it's just you either love him or you tolerate him or you hate him so why do you think that this is good like do you think that Joe Biden needs to like more name recognition he needs to have his name in the news i i feel like that he looks so it was such a bad blunder that everyone is uniting together as a country to be like this is funny which is good i think that that that's what i'm saying he made me laugh yeah i think that's enough to get people to the polls nowadays from a slapstick point of view it's good exactly well i'm saying i don't think there's anything like i think i think they're holding something in the holster i think

they'll probably do something. I don't think they'll eradicate all student loans, but they're going to do something with student loans right before the election cycle to try to bolster their numbers to try to get people to go to the polls. But other than that, like, he's just not a liked president and neither is Kamala. So it's like, anything when you're in the news, it's good for you. Let me think about it. Look at all the Trump's fuck-ups. All you have to do is say it's not a fuck up and if your people that are with you, they'll believe you. It doesn't matter anymore. Like, it just doesn't matter anymore. It's fucking hilarious. It was very funny seeing the people that were, that are avid bike riders that are justifying being like, well, he got his foot stuck in this

clip. And as any bike rider will tell you, this is how everyone was like, this has happened hundreds of times to me. It's like, wow, bike riders fall down a lot. Also, he had come to a full stop. He was, he was stopped with one foot on the ground and then fell. Yeah, he leaned the other way. His foot was clipped in. There's the reason. Yeah, this is the reason. Like, the, the, the foot clip, those shoes that are clipped in the pedals, like, he, he fucked that up.

But this is also why I don't, like, bike for real. I fell off a bike before. Matter of fact, I still got a chip, too, because I fell off a bike. How long were they riding bikes that he needed that? It's a good question. And why is Joe Biden going on? I can't believe anyone let him get on a bike. Distance bike rides.

I don't think there needs to be a long distance at all for Joe Biden to be, like, winded from riding a bicycle. And that's not just a Joe Biden. Don't put a 75-year-old on a bike. Well, I say something nice about Joe Biden. He's in pretty good shape for his age. Yeah, he is. Physically.

But he's also the leader of the free world. Yeah. He should be in good shape. Yeah, it's like, I don't want my president riding a motorcycle. I don't want a president on a jet ski. Or like skydiving. Skydiving. Well, maybe I do.

Maybe I do want them doing like the most dangerous possible activities. They don't let him drive. Like, why can he get on? I mean, a bike is. They don't let any president. drive. See, that would piss me off if I was the president. I'd be like, at some point, you just want to go get McDonald's, you know? I mean, they have people to do that. Yeah, but there's something magical about, like, maybe not magical, but it's nice to be like, hey, I want

Chick-fil-A, and you get in your own car and you drive to the Chick-fil-A. Like, nobody has told Joe Biden or any president, my pleasure after serving them a hot and spicy chicken sandwich. It's a small thing in life. That's why they're so hard to touch. I'm going to go ahead and disagree. I would be perfectly fine with no longer having to get my chick fillet and somebody getting it for me I'm cool with that do you think that the presidents play video games no it's like he's old as fuck you don't think Obama ever sat down played Hela well so I've no I've thought about that like you know I talk to my friends every day and I was like if one of us became like we get on we play PlayStation like almost every day and like if we if I feel like we're finally the generation

that like we'll play video games well into adulthood because that's just like what we done and I was like the president can't just like can they still talk to their friends like do they are they in a group chat with their pals I don't think so I don't I think you like can't talk to people like that I bet Trump was in a couple group chats no Obama was known for like texting people and celebrities and his homies and I don't know you can still well I mean and it depends like how how good are your friends well I remember Obama saying he had an iPhone that could do everything except call and text they disabled that on it like he could It was just an internet thing.

Damn. Yeah, I don't know enough about it. But I do know if you're in a group chat with a bunch of the homies and you president, them jokes got to, they got to cease. Well, that's what I'm saying. I don't know. I'm pretty sure that you can have like something. You know how like Netflix or Hulu has like that shit where you can't screenshot or screen

record anything? Yeah, probably on some app. Like let's have a, let's have a, let's have a group. group chat, but it's got to be on here, so I know you motherfuckers ain't snake in me. I think Mark Cuban made one of those. It's like an app, it's like a texting app and everything disappears. That chat made it. That's true also.

That is true, yeah. Are they still a sponsor? I think once a sponsor always a sponsor. That's fair. I don't, I don't think so. But yeah, you got to, if you, if you are unable to still be on a group chat with your buddies as a president, that's going to be, like, that's a tough job. You're basically cut off from being real world friends with people.

I feel like that would affect you mentally. Woe as president. Yeah, poor Biden, poor Biden. So, Big T, do you think this hinders his chances at reelection? I don't think it helps. I mean, I would put his chances at virtually zero. I don't think they're going to let him run again. I think in a way it might help him because I think it's going to make people be like,

hey, there's no way that this guy should be president again. So he was just not going to run. Like, he was probably not going to run again before this happened. But this is such an embarrassing video that got out there. I feel like most people will be like, okay, Joe, we're not going to, we're not going to put you through this. Can you imagine the first debate with Trump again and Trump can just pull out the bike thing? Mm-hmm. That's so funny.

The, I was walking, I was walking back home yesterday and I saw a copy of the New York Post at somebody's like front door. and it said Biden hits new low with a picture of him on the bike just like the economy and his approval ratings

I think that's good it was good it's good stuff flowing it for yeah that's I mean that's the New York Post I expect better

yeah yeah but yeah so it was a it was a very funny funny day on Twitter it was good though because most people

were laughing at it there were some people being like what are you laughing at this he's old and he could have gotten seriously hurt. Like, who gives a shit? He's, it was funny.

I hate those people. It was funny. People that, and I was saying the other week on this show that there, there's like an opportunity for somebody to be the Joe Biden stand and to be like, I love Joe, great job, Joe, you're killing it, Joe. I saw a few of those people out there on Saturday being like, instead of making fun for falling off his bike, maybe we should be applauding the fact that an 80-year-old guy is out there getting exercise. No, that is a horrible dick.

It's a bad take. It's a bad take. It is weird, though, how we're obsessed in this country for the most part with electing old people. It's the weirdest. We love old people. Well, we love the idea of old people. Like, they get on our nerves in every facet of our life. And it's the funniest in the world to me.

Like, older societies, like, they used to revere old people. They were full of wisdom. But now in our society, it's just they're a nuisance. They're in the way. That's the thing. every we love wisdom we don't necessarily we love the idea of wisdom but we don't love old people yeah we don't like where it comes but we like the source yeah so so big t you think he's not going to run i i i can't imagine we know he can't bike good one yeah i i mean who are they

we've talked about this several times but like they they don't have a good option no somebody's going to come out of nowhere i i've i was talking to my dad on father's day yesterday and we talk about politics sometimes and we were just talking about what's going to happen in the next election cycle and who's going to run and we we i came to the conclusion that i think it's somebody that we might not even think of as being someone who's going to run for president it's going to be something like obama was in 2008 he kind of came out of nowhere i feel like that's what's going to happen with the democrats but but he had like a lot of momentum pre 2008 like in his in his in his city

wasn't he a senator yeah and he spoke at the 2004 DNC and that's what like put him on the map and so it's like I can't think of anybody you know what I'm saying I'm fairly knowledgeable

of Democratic senators or just mayorial candidates that are they have hype around it there's just no I can't think of anybody that is appealing the rock no ain't no way

he's fumbling that bag for politics I think he went I think he made like a one political statement and he hasn't never done it again The rock is going to be I think he's going to be

the president of the WWE soon I think he's going to take that over from Vince Why was it what happened to Vince So Vince is under fire because there was an alleged payment that he made to a former employee that he had a sexual relationship with and then he made her sign

and NDA and paid her like three million dollars from the company in exchange for silence about it. And so that is just starting to come out right now. And all the other members of the McMahon family are getting in trouble too, kind of at the same time. They're all getting kicked out one by one. And I feel like it's almost a hostile takeover from the inside. And then they're going to, I could see them bringing the rock on because that would be a perfect storyline, wouldn't it? Like the rock, former wrestler comes back to own the entire thing. and then he'd be back involved in content again. It would be a smart thing for him to do.

I think he'd make a ton of money off of it. But yeah, there's some weird stuff going on at WWE for sure. So he had sex with a woman and he paid her not to talk about it? Like, so was there like, did something bad happen? Like, did he? Don't know. Don't know. There's an NDA in place.

So at the very most charitable reading of it would be the CEO of a company slept with one of his subordinates and then paid her money to not tell anybody about it. So that's all that we know. So it doesn't sound good, but we don't know any of the details yet. So we'll find that out soon, I'm sure.

But that was, I also could see there being like four or five more of these things that could come out. I have no evidence to back that up. But I feel like this isn't just like a one-time thing, especially knowing like Vince McMahon. He's a, I don't know. We'll see.

We'll see what happens with that. But the point is, I could see the rock taking over WWE, and Aryan's right. I don't think that he's going to throw away all the money that he's making right now to become president. Mm-mm. No. In other news, I got pink eye this weekend. Right after we talked about eating ass. Coincidentally.

Uh-huh. But there was no ass eating involves. But I just woke. Nobody else in the house got it. I don't know where I got it from. but I woke up and like my eye was just like one eye was like watering and I've never had pink eye before so I don't know what it was and so it was just like water and I was like I don't know what the fuck going on so I tried to thug it out but it was like I look I googled the symptoms of what I was experiencing um after I found out it was pink eye and it they said it's like moderate pain like this was probably the most pain I've ever had just like uncomfortable wise I've ever experienced. It's like, because there's no reprieve. It's like you're straining.

It's sensitive delight. It, it, it, uh, everything hurts it. Like, I just, I couldn't keep it open. I couldn't keep it closed. It was just one of the most uncomfortable things I've ever dealt with my life. I don't know if anybody's had pink eye. But I just feel like people downplay this or maybe I'm just, I'm soft when it comes to pink eye where that shit was killing me.

You couldn't tug it out. I could not thug that out. I went to the emergency, not the emergency, we were urgent care. Yeah. You diagnose it right away. It got me the drops and the next day I was straight. But that shit is not the business.

Eye pain is, it's a different kind of pain. What are the worst kinds of pain? Ear pain sucks. Yeah, ear infection, I was just going to say. Horrible. Ear infect toothaches are really bad too. Never really had either one of those. A toothache is bad because there's not a lot that you can do about it.

I feel like a lot of stuff in the head area is tough because there's not a lot of like area. So there's not a lot of reprieve for it. You kind of just have to like wait it out. Back pain That's up there too I'd say a really Really bad stomachache

Like when you're just like On the toilet Girls be pooping That's another That's another one I've never really had a stomachache Or a headache I agree with Aryan

I've never had I get like I get diarrhea Well that's what I mean I have to go to the bathroom Like I've never been like nauseous What? I take it back

I take it back I take it back One time I got food poisoning but even then it wasn't my my stomach wasn't hurting it's just I had to I had the boo-boo and I had to throw up and sometimes it happened at the same time

but my stomach wasn't really hurting like that or when you like have you never had a stomach ache where it like haunts your whole body and you're like sweating yeah you're talking about like if there's difference between being nauseous having to shit and then like a stomach ache which is

more of like a stabbing pain in your stomach I don't really get that that short pain in my stomach but I know what you're talking when you get the bubble gut and you have to shit and you're sweating yeah that's I wouldn't even call that pain though I just call that like and but that's like the discomfort the discomfort is so like all-consuming because you can't think you can't talk so it's like you back that it's like it's like right before you touch cotton you know what what you mean you're touching cotton you got like you got you got to boo-bo on yourself touching cotton oh okay got it got it got it yeah I got it

I've never heard that before. I'm going to start using that. Like touch grass. Yeah. Oh, you know what else? Another bad type of pain? Nerve pain. Nerve pain sucks.

I'm not old enough to get that yet. If you had shingles, what do you mean, mad dog? Damn. All the old people experience this. That's fucked up. My example was going to be shingles, and I'm realizing that's not a great counterarmine. That is an old person. I had nerve pain when I slipped the disc in my back of L5S1.

and before we went into surgery, it was a nerve. And so like I say, I'm sitting down and I tried to kick my leg out. I could not do it as sent to shut up my spine. It's like a sharp-ass pain. Unreal. And actually, to this day, on my neck, I was going in for a touchdown. If somebody hit me on the side of my head. And so to this day, like if you're, like, if I'm just laying down, I'm getting like a massage,

let's say, and they run over this spot, it sends a shooting pain down my neck. Like the whole thing, it's like somebody's, like, stabbing me. It's the worst in the world. Yeah, nerve pain's bad. It's the worst, bro. Eye pain, I pain sucks. So thoughts and prayers. I'm glad that you're feeling better, though.

I am. I've received your thoughts and prayers. So where did you get this from? Where did you get the pink eye? We don't know. I told my mom it was from her dog. That's such bullshit. If you're farting on your pillows.

I don't make a habit of doing that. But, I mean, it's possible. Anything is possible, I guess. but I just, you know, my girl's in town. And she was, we were sleeping in the same bed. And so it's like, I don't, she didn't get it. I don't know. What's your towel situation?

How often do you wash your towels? I was at my mom's. She's one of them clean freaks where it's like, she has a whole closet full of, like, towels and she cleans everything. All the sheets were washed. Like, I don't know, man. So you bring your girl to your mom's place? Yeah.

That's nice. What's you mean? Oh, it's just nice. Is there a joke here? No, there's no joke. It's just like, hey, you want to come visit my mom's place for a little bit? That's very nice. So you guys are pretty serious now.

Yeah, she's moving in. Wow. That's why you redid your house. Well, and new energy, new vibe. Yeah, no, that's why. That's why. Good vibes. It's new vibes.

But, I mean, mostly it was because, like, nothing matched. I don't know. The lady that lived here before me was insane, dog. So you'll go upstairs and none of the bathroom. stuff matched it like there's just different rooms it was weird it's like a mosaic of of architecture and then you go downstairs and nothing matched there either and so everything was like independent of each other and they had these old ass it was just old and so like now it's just like more modern it looks nicer is the tv in yet not yet it's going to be the last thing we put in

you got to take a picture that tv once you get it in i got you i'll take a picture to be standing what did you say 134 inches 143 you get it right Please. Thank you for correcting me. What's the first thing? What are you going to do? Nine inches. Are you going to play something? Are you going to watch a movie on there? I don't know. You're going to see what sports is going to be. There's not going to be no sports, though, so it's probably not going to be a sport and events. So it's probably going to be like a good movie, like maybe Avatar.

Matter of fact, I'm going to christen it with Avatar. You're right. It's the only way. That's the only way to do it. Yeah, I'm going to christen it with Avatar. Oh, it's going to be so big. I'm going to roll up. I'm going to smoke. It's going to be amazing. Is it going in your living room? Oh, of course. So like I'm just, do you just have a gigantic wall that you're putting it on? I do have a big wall, yeah.

Okay. I mean, that's so sick. I'm trying to think of the biggest wall in my apartment right now. I think I can fit that TV in my apartment. How tall is it? I don't know. I haven't done the one. The 143 is across.

So it's probably how big is that TV? 55 inches. 55 inches, yeah. And it's probably two feet tall. Yeah, I've got a wall that's big enough for that. Maybe two and a half. It would be my entire wall. It's worth it.

Yeah. I mean, yeah. It's going to be amazing. That's going to be sick. Okay, so let's figure out. I think we're going to do a macro-dosing trip this summer. I told you out of stuff. I told you he's going to get so mad.

Jersey Shore. I don't hate this bullshit, man. Every time y'all talk about traveling, you get me all excited. I'm all in and then just want, want, what fizzles out. Every single time. PFTS a break is up. Jersey Shore. I'll hear you.

I'm listening to the words that you're saying to me. Okay. So I reject what you're proposing. I don't know what that means. Jersey Shore. Actually, I just found out today that there's a different town. I was talking to Brandon Walker and Big Ev earlier this morning about names of cities that sound really cool, but they're actually bad places or names of things that sound cool.

And I was like Alcatraz. sing a lot of prisons sound really cool but they're bad green bay sounds luxurious it sounds like a resort i disagree with that why green bay green bay i mean i guess it's it's hard to tell because we already know what it is it's a greenland yeah greenland is a great example like like clear bay would sound nice green bay doesn't it's the water sounds like it's a beach with green water. You think so? I hear Green Bay and I think like Brazil. Greenland. Yeah. Or like

New Zealand. Yeah. I don't know. I don't like Green Bay. But Big Ev brought up that there's a town in Pennsylvania called Jersey Shore, Pennsylvania. And it is right smack dab in the middle of the state. It's like, it's next to Williamsport where they have, isn't that the College World Series? Little League World Series. Sorry.

And it's just a town completely landlocked. It couldn't be farther away from the ocean, but it's called Jersey Shore, Pennsylvania. And it's the most misleading name for a city of all time. I checked down Google Maps. It looks like the most boring town. I wonder if we have any listeners out there from Jersey Shore, Pennsylvania. Is that what you're proposing?

We go do it in Jersey Shore, Pennsylvania. No, I'm saying like down the shore, the Jersey Shore, Jersey Shore by the ocean. Yeah, we'll get together in July. We'll go to the beach house. Jim tan laundry. Jim tan laundry. Do it up big. Avery will show us around.

Avery's a Jersey Shore guy Jersey Shore guy And I'll have the Bronco We'll go doors off Oh I love it So I'm going to get the The company Silverado Hell yeah

For the month of July The only thing is I talked about this And pardon my take But I was going to get it Turned into a shark They were going to wrap it So it looked like a shark

Just because I thought that'd be cool And I don't know If I'll have time to get it wrapped Because they're using it In the Pride parade The Out and About guys are taking in the pride parade and it's going to have like massive rainbow flags on it and it's going to have like Joey and Pat on the side on the back and so I think I'm just

going to pick it up from them take it and I'm going to have it the entire summer as like the gayest truck in the Jersey Shore and I'm going to driving it around all summer is it the same truck from your drive to 405 yeah it's that same truck you have a lot of memories in that truck and I'm very excited it's going to be very funny to have that truck especially because I think the house that I'm renting out is directly now. next door to a church. So I'll be parking the giant gay truck in front of the church. That'll be fun.

That'll be very fun. So are we going to make it happen or no? Yeah, let's make it happen. We'll do a podcast from the shore. Yep. We'll see, baby. We'll do the ocean. Ocean part two.

Oh. We gained a drunk. Billy will. No, he said when Billy comes back, it has to be like a coming back party, but he can't have alcohol. like we're all drinking but he has to have like spright and soda that's funny man it's not funny but it's pretty funny yeah no he just got to he's got to learn to focus a little bit he was out entertaining clients though that's what he was doing um you know that i wonder i wonder if miss billy's

going to listen to this episode he's not huh no i'm saying i'm saying i said what if i wonder if miss billy's going to listen to this episode because billy ain't known it oh uh his mom yeah Yeah, probably. Hi. Hi, Miss Billy. We love your son. We're just trying to teach him, trying to help him grow. You know, actually, she probably knows more than anybody what we're going through right now.

That's only something that someone who loves him would do. If you didn't give a shit about him, you wouldn't try to correct him. Correct. I love Billy so much that I'm punishing him for his own good. I do feel like it hurts me more than it hurts you. It does. I'm not angry at him. I am a little bit angry, but I'm also just mostly disappointed.

But it was so funny, Aaron, I don't know if you are aware of this, but when he gave his excuses as to why he was unable to make the show on Thursday for part of my take, he said because he's been out entertaining clients a lot this week. And you know that he included the trip to the Yankees game. He said that that was entertaining clients. Because I a client? Yeah, you're a client. Got you. You're one of Billy's clients that. Damn, he threw me out of the bus.

He was saying that he was like doing you a favor And that he had to do this for his job And he didn't want to go out to the Yankees game And drink beers But because there was a client in town He was kind of forced to When duty calls Well and game like game time was a client

Coors Light was a client He was entertaining I mean several clients Cors Light game time Aryan Is his mom a client Yeah I don't know The Yankees Yeah the Yankees are technically client

Because he has to talk about them for his job he's one of a kind one of kind brain but we're uh again we're gonna be happy to have him back when he gets back he's still gonna be doing stuff for us um so anything else we want to get into what's what's going on with everybody joe bine fell off his bike i mean that was my entire weekend what was your favorite part of him falling off his bike um it all happens so quickly he he comes to a complete stop. It's not like he was rolling and hit something and fell off. Obviously that like that could happen. He comes to a complete stop, puts a foot on the ground and then fiddles with the thing on the pedal and falls over. It's it's it's hilarious. Yeah, it is. Is this funnier than when Trump stared at

the solar eclipse? Trump had so many good memes. Like, yeah, but Trump's volume of, of, of, hilarious things he did is much greater but this one incident it's just such a confluence of things that should have never happened that makes it so funny yeah i think you're right the body of work the totality of the body of work for trump is much stronger oh yeah but this i think is brighter than anything that he's ever than trump's ever done correct this yeah it's like who would be a good athlete to compare that to like longevity versus like jeremy lynn yeah this is linsanity this is insane I was going to say

Peyton Hillis but yeah Jeremy Lins a better one but it's like comparing Peyton Hillis to Arian Foster is like only one of them

was ever on the cover of Madden Joe Biden that's factual that actually fucking happens that shit's crazy to this day

you had a whole bunch of cats actually that should have been on the cover that year did anybody ever reach out to you

to be like hey you might be on Madden yeah I think every every team had a candidate and I because of that year

I led the league in rushing and touchdowns and like it all purpose yards everything and so they were like you're doing it for your team and so it was like a bracket I think from my memory search me correctly yeah um but like they had like Mike Vic

had a good year like he should have he should have been on there I don't know man like Peyton Hillers was just like an average running back there he's just big and white Yeah, that was Michael. I think he finished like second an MVP voting or something. He came back and was awesome.

There was like 30 guys that should have been on the cover over Peyton Hillis. And no shade to him. I'm sure he's a great guy. Peyton Hillis in 2011. Oh, so it would have been 2010 because it was Madden 12, which came out in 2011. In 2010, he had almost 1,200 yards, good. How many touchdowns? Well, he wasn't even like top 10 Russian.

Yeah, probably not. 11 touchdowns. So like a solid season. What did you do in 2011? He had a good pro bowl year. Yeah, I mean. No, that would, it would be 2010. 2010, 2010.

And what did the Browns go that year? In 10. You had 1,600 yards, 16 touchdowns. 101 yards a game. 600 yards receiving, which is, for your average hands. That's fine. Well, yeah, you made to the final four, it looks like. This was in 2013.

No, no, no. But this is a different one. Yeah, that's later. But in this one, you beat Colin Kaepernick in the semifinals. Damn, how does that make you feel? I was a better player than he was. It's not. What are you getting that, Big Tee?

You're saying that if someone's a better player, that maybe they should, I don't know. I'm not willing to get into that. Yeah, yeah. So you beat Kaepernick in 2013, and then it looks like Russell Wilson beat you in the final four. I don't remember this one. all. But yeah, that makes sense. I can imagine being in the NFL when Peyton Hillis got on the

cover and you're like, wait, what? Yeah, I'm not the type to be like, this is bullshit. I don't care like that. But I was just like, who? Like, why him? Like, I was genuinely perplexed. But I think like the great white hype's happened every now and then to where it's like, like they need that guy. He had a great season that year though. Like, you know, those don't throw around the word great like that. He had a great season. He had an okay season. If you look up his stats, then he played really well. That's okay. Well, if

your standard of grade is 1100 yards rushing, what does anybody above that have? As a fullback, that's pretty good for 1100 yards. It wasn't a fullback. It wasn't a fullback he was a tellback. He was a fullback in college when he played with, it was Felix Jones, Darren McFadden, and Peyton Hillis in the same backfield.

Crazy. That was a fun Arkansas team. Those Arkansas teams for those couple years were so good. The Wild Hogg offense. Yeah. Just a great name for you. We worked their ass my junior year. Big T. Did we talk about Tennessee losing in baseball last week?

I don't think that we did. I don't remember, no. How bad were you down when they lost? Very. Well, I think we did talk about him being suicidal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had suicidal, Big Tee's poetic. Honestly, like I said this to.

somebody earlier. Obviously, I wish Tennessee was in the College World Series. Like, I wanted them to win it. The College World Series needed Tennessee in it. Because it's just been kind of like I haven't seen like it's Stanford and like Notre Dame and Ole Miss who was trash and shouldn't even made the tournament. Like nobody, it

needed a villain in it for people to root against. You don't think Notre Dame can be a villain? No, everybody loves this Notre Dame team because they took out us. What about Texas? They're already out. Yeah. They made it though, didn't they? Yeah. They went Owen too. Texas A&M beat them

went horns down. There was one person that was assigned to they were going to sing the national anthem at the College World Series. But they were uninvited because of their offensive display that they had made in the college

The women's college softball world series. They did horns down. And so that's basically a slur. Texas is so funny how they get so mad when people go horns down and they do not realize that the angry you

The angrier you get at somebody doing horns down, it's going to make everybody want to do it more. And what's about to happen is, remember, it was last year or the year before, the Big 12 made it a rule that, like, it was a personal foul if a player did it. The SEC is not going to treat them like the Big 12 does. They're not the big dog anymore. And when they go to SEC stadiums and fan bases, they're going to be in for a rude awakening, I think. It's all horns down all the time. I mean, the conference that they're in currently is Texas and Oklahoma. like they would do whatever they asked and that's not how it works in the SEC

it's the stricent effect the more you tell people not to do something the more they're going to want to do it you said stricent an effect stricent effect you know about the stricent effect uh i know barbara stricent i don't know much about the stricent effect so she had a house that was on a beach in california and somebody went out there and took some pictures of the beach they weren't even specifically taking pictures of her house

but her house was included in the pictures that were being taken The photographer tried to sell these pictures I don't know it's like a calendar Or it's a magazine photo shoot or whatever And Barbara Streisand sued the photographer And said you can't use any of this stuff Because my house is in it

I don't want people to know where I live And because it became a public lawsuit It made so many more people find out about it Than if she had just let this guy publish a stupid photo Right And so it's like Everybody started taking pictures of her house Yeah exactly

it's one of those things that gets like when uh when dan schneider the owner of the washington commanders sued the washington city paper because they wrote an article being like here's an a to z list of reasons why you should hate dan snider because he sued them it brought so many more people it brought so much more attention onto the article that not that many people would have read to begin with so it's uh yeah that's kind of like what texas did by making them try to do a rule change saying you can't go horns down anymore it's everyone's like okay well Now we know what really pisses you off. Thank you for telling us that we're going to do it all the time.

That's hilarious. My question is, why is Tennessee a villain in baseball? I don't understand. So this year we went like 57 and 6, something just stupidly good, and they talked a lot of shit. And like they flipped outfielders off rounding first base and everybody hated the way they played. And they were and they embraced it. They were like, we know people hate us and we like it. I like that.

And then they lost and people. And people, like, took their shots out of them, which is fine. That's what's going to happen when you act like that and then lose. And so, like, obviously, I wanted them to win. But, like, I think just if you enjoy college baseball, it would have been good to have them in the college world series because everyone loved rooting against them. Yeah. Which was good for the sport. Like, they brought attention.

You need people like me, famous Scarface. Well, um, Avery, what's up with you? What's new? nothing much i mean the rangers lost so that's over for me um i'm gonna be traveling a lot i won't be on the pod for a little bit and the next month i'm going to scotland with uh the four play guys i'm going to san francisco for a really cool shoot i can explain more in the next couple weeks like when we do it and then uh we got the chicklets cup in late july i'm playing in that roller hockey so it should be fun but in terms of the

the podcast. We got the science fair coming out this week. I originally said Tuesday they might be pushing it back a little bit, but it will be out this week. And I'll have more on that after today. All right. Check it out. And you're going to Scotland. That's going to be awesome. Yeah. I've only been out of the country twice, Aruba and St. Martin, which is like really not like out of the country. It's more just like Caribbean Island in in terms of like actually going to like Europe and being able to explore the rest of the world. So I'm excited. Are they going to treat you like kings over there? We're going to be there for 10 days, so I'm assuming at some point, yeah.

That's awesome. I know. I'm just really excited to see St. Andrews because if people don't know, like, St. Andrews is, like, in the town. Like, you're basically like, it would be like if you're walking in Manhattan, you made a right and it's just like a golf course, like just sitting like on the street. It's insane. So there are a bunch of videos that came out over the last week of what the course it looks like right now. Yeah. And people are just letting their dogs run all the, because it is in the town.

Yes. They just take their dogs out to the golf course for a walk. It's insane. I'm so excited. It's 150th. If you guys want any merch or anything, I'll be texting you guys. And how old is the old course? I don't know exactly.

Sure, I could do a little Google here. But I'm assuming it's really old. I love British Open Golf. Excuse me, the Open Golf. Because it's kind of similar to the U.S. Open in that the courses sometimes can just be made as fucked up as possible just to mess with the golfers. And so these old-ass courses, they just have bunkers essentially that are like seven, eight feet deep sometimes on them.

It's like playing in a war zone. Golf has been played at St. Andrew's links for 600 years. In 1552, Archbishop Hamilton's charter recognized the right of the people of St. Andrews to play golf at the links. Imagine how bad the clubs must have been, the equipment for golfers in like the 1500s. it's insane it's insane when we did a tailor-made shoot in florida uh with the new stealth driver uh last last fall they gave us like the hickory clubs and it's just like i can't even imagine how they played with that stuff what's it like it's just like there's no there's like no forgiveness

it's extremely hard like even the pros had you know they struggle hitting that it's just like thinner face and it's just it's just wood it's not there's no like carbon five fiber and all this crazy technology. What did they make the balls out of back then? That's interesting. They gave us one, but I forgot what they were made out of. It's like, create. Let me look.

Probably bone, I would imagine. Yeah. Like everything back in the day used to be very violent. Any sort of recreational activity, you had to get something that was made out of bone or if you wanted to play an instrument, like the violin, the strings were made out of cat guts. Yeah, it was made out of cow or horse hide. Or, like, drums, like our skin.

Skin, yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. What's that? Yep. Mad Dog, what are you up to? My mom's in town this weekend. She says hi to everyone.

Cool. So she made me organize my apartment all weekend. I just moved. So she made me organize my apartment. She sang karaoke this weekend. I got her just in karaoke. what she's saying She's saying

I got you babe by Sonny and Cher with another employee at Barcel Sports Who was it? Corey Rutledge Awesome Yeah

No so she was in town She likes to do this thing When she's in town Where like she stayed out To like 4 a.m. Both nights she was here And then she like wakes up And she stayed in my apartment too

Which like I don't have a huge apartment And she just like Started getting up and like, starting a day, like at 9 a.m. I'm like so hungover and she's like, I'm just going to get up and start working. That's impressive. But like, she was drunk too. Sound like you're mad at your mom for being able to drink.

Your mom can party more than you can. My mom can hang more than I can. She can hang. I mean, you guys met her. She can hang. But I felt really dumb because I was like, well, shit. Like my mom's really outdoing me right now. And I just had to kind of take that.

with me but um it's like it's like when you play basketball against your dad in your 20s and he's just wet from the outside and you're like fuck I still can't beat this guy your mom's still partying harder than you yeah I mean she like she partied a lot in college and stuff but she like she doesn't she doesn't drink really like at home and then she like saves up all of her energy and then whenever she's with me she'll like go really hard so that that really helps her stakes there but no she got a poker macro macrodosing poker shirt i gave her one of those so she'll be wearing that around the suburbs just trying to explain to people what i do for a job i love it yeah um but yeah just been doing that excited about the science fair yeah it's it's gonna be very very funny several laugh out loud

moments in it like several when do we know what is dropping uh some point this week it could be today when you're listening to the podcast it could be wednesday or thursday but i will put it out on the macro social once I know. There's just a lot of things going on at the office, and I want to be able to have it on a day where that's the only thing going on. Oh, yeah, Barstall Idol is happening right now. One of them smells bad. I'll put it out there.

Yeah. Big T, are you teed off about anything this week? Nothing that immediately comes to mind. How were your meals this weekend? Any unnecessary condiments? Oh, no, I'm actually the antithesis of Tied off. off. Great, just plain. I tweeted it out. Teed up. Yeah, teed up. Just some normal ass French toast. They put bacon on top of it. That's

the garnish you need. It was perfect. It looked really. And it was, you know, relatively normally priced rather than being $27 and coming with flowers on it. And it was delicious? It was unbelievable. Was it in the city? Yeah. Oh, damn. It was just this little like cash only diner. You're talking about La Bobagnier. Yeah. It actually actually has a super fancy French name. And it's like just the greasy, like, as close to Waffle house as you can get here. What's it called? La Bonnier Le Bonnier. Yeah, no, Big T's right. It's a great place. It's casually. It's tiny. They actually, during COVID, they built the outside spot that they have now for it. It used to be just a small indoor place that probably had just the inside,

maybe 20 seats. Oh, not even. There's like four tables on it. But it's delicious. Oh, it's awesome. If you watch the marvelous Miss Maisel they go there. It's called something different. That's the place they go? That's the place where her and her husband have sex in the bathroom in like the first season. That is a small little place. It's a small little place. It's great though. So yeah, I will give them a free plug because they are good and they gave big tea some quality

high quality French toast. I gotta get you guys over to New Jersey. I turn a corner everywhere. There's a diner. You'd be in food heaven where I live. I agree. Yeah. I'm sorry you're chained up here. buddy you're welcome anytime i'm always like i whenever i think but i'm always surprised when i remember big t lives in manhattan yeah it sucks big city boy big city boy like i i can see big t being like really really thriving in hoboken i i can't i can't do the i can't walk here i can't let go with that that's true yeah it is nice i had a delicious breakfast yesterday i'll give a free plug too

maybe one of the best breakfasts I've had in a long time. Taco Bell breakfast. Shut up. I'm a breakfast defector. I am thinking outside the bun. Taco Bell breakfast is legit. I had a breakfast crunch wrap. Holy fuck.

Did you get eggs from Taco Bell? Yeah, you're goddamn right. I did. They're Wayvos, actually. Wayvos. And I got the sausage breakfast crunch wrap. It's got like cheese. I think there's rice in there.

eggs crumbled up sausage it is fucking bomb it is maybe the best thing that I've ever had at Taco Bell shut up are you serious? Yes so good so good I'm not sure about that try it try it

Aaron try it you're gonna love it like the sausage the rice all that the eggs is what sketches me out why do you have a problem with Taco Bell eggs because I don't think they're made from real eggs where are they made from like powder I think it's real eggs

I'm not 99% sure these were Wevos Wevos Simpliscoo No Rancho Wevo's Verdad Real eggs, true eggs True eggs

Yeah these were And it was the Verdad It was the truth It was fucking delicious And it was I had hash browns And then they have Cinnabon bites

Those things are so fucking What does this shit call the gambor Taco Bell? No, I'm talking about that The breakfast crunch wrap Breakfast I'd love a crunch wrap I'm telling you

it was it was everything I've ever wanted from a fast food breakfast but what made you like you hungry and then you well I was high taco oh okay I here's what I did this weekend I um I watched

the Stanley Cup I watched the US Open I got high I played my new guitar and I played I bought a plane I bought a brand new plane on Saturday a Spitfire And so I'm doing all these missions in World War II, protecting the English Channel, doing, they have some satellite, some, some reconnaissance missions that I can do. So I'm not even shooting anything or dropping bombs. My assignment is to like navigate my plane and follow specific waypoints and then take pictures of Nazi installments to prepare for our D-Day invasion, which is like the dorkiest thing ever. I'm playing a combat simulator and I'm just taking pictures so that like other planes can come in behind me. and bombed them.

But I was like, I was taking the pictures. I was looking at them as they came through. I was like, that's a fucking great picture. I positioned my plane perfectly. Nobody saw me. Were you the, did you love the NFL head coach video game

that they came out with once and never made again? Because nobody bought it. It's like you don't play football. You just do all the administrative things of being a coach. I would actually love to play that right now. I had it, actually. I wonder if I can download that for my computer. Maybe.

Well, is it much different than like doing like a season with the homies where you just like 12 people, you all get a team. And then you, and you, like, you just coat, like, you don't actually play the games, but it's like, what is it called? What is that shit called? What mode is that?

Like, dynasty mode? Yeah, where you just like do all the GM shit. You draft, you do all that, you know, but you don't actually play the games. Is that on Madden? You don't play? Yeah. Yeah. Huh.

So I remember the NFL head coaching thing. It's fun of shit. They made also football manager, which is for soccer. Yeah. But that's like a really in-depth game, too. I would love to play the head coaching game, though. And, like, get into fights with your coordinator. like leak stuff to the media

the dynasty I think it's the dynasty well I forget what it's called but like where you don't actually play the games bro like you just you just make it like you draft people

you cut you have to cut you have to manage the salary you have to do all that shit it's actually fun like one of your players gets arrested for a DUI you have to suspend them or you have to suspend them

or you cut him or you have to sign free agents like all that shit I love that I might see if I can download that tonight and try to play that game but I'm probably going to be

let's be realistic I'll be playing my flight simulator So, but I don't understand the appeal to that. Like, you just, listen, if you had asked me six months ago, I would say the same thing. But so you get up, you have to learn the plane. You have to learn all the systems and how to turn them on. You have to learn how to navigate.

You have to learn how to use the radio. And you have to learn how you have to trim the aircraft frequently because it's an old plane. So it keeps pulling to the side or going down. And so you have to fly in a specific direction. And you've got like, it's under the. understanding that there's about to be a wave that's going to come in behind you that's going to bomb all the places that you're taking pictures of once you're taking the pictures and then sending

them back to to home base and then they're distributing those and then other people come in and bomb for you i don't know it's the dorkiest thing ever but i love doing it i mean do you is there a chance to get promoted to to drop the bombs or you just that's yeah no there are other missions that that i can do where i am fighting and i'm dropping bombs i'm shooting down other aircraft but this one was it was really fun i pictured myself as being tom hardy from dunkirk you ever see that movie oh i seen it he flies a spitfire and he comes in like saves the day that's kind of what i'm doing i'm pretty much tom hardy it's a really good cinematic movie you'd like it harryan do you do you think that you can actually fly like a real plane now yes a simple plane yeah i think i could

i'd probably crash land it i don't know if i'd be able to pull off the landing maybe i maybe i could depends on what kind of plane depends on the conditions if it's like a clear day with no wind and I'm flying a Cessna I think I could probably do it and you I'm talking about you could take off you can do all that no no probably not take off take off would be tough I'm very impatient when it comes to takeoff so I have to learn all these new takeoff and taxing procedures with each new plane that I get and so I just I get bored trying to learn those I just go full throttle and just like steer across the airport and take off on my own because I'll just I just want to get up in the sky and start taking pictures of stuff, you know, like real combat shit.

So, um, so I've, I've become pretty good at landing for the most part, except if it's on an aircraft carrier, which I still crashed 99% of the time. Um, but I think I could land a plane. I think I could. If I absolutely had to, pilot has a hard attack. I think I could touch it down. I really do. Yeah. I feel. That's pretty cool. That's a, that's a pretty cool game. I mean, we talked about this. There was a normal dude who did it recently. Mm-hmm. You should for sure be able to. You should just get a flight, like, lesson.

No, I'm never going to do that. I'm deathly afraid of heights. Oh, right. So DCS is, like, very realistic. It's like most of, I didn't know that. You've never seen the video. Oh, my God. Oh, I'll send you the video.

Wait, so do you get freaked out flying? No, I'm usually okay flying. Because you're not the one in control. Yeah, and also I'm inside a metal tube. So I feel like I'm inside. I'm not. 30,000 feet up. I'm just thinking about being, like, outdoors and looking over the ledge of a building right now, and I'm sweating, thinking about it.

I get, I get severely anxious and panicky. I have a visceral reaction to it. Oh, you'd be a shit pilot then. Yeah, I'd probably suck. I don't know. If I was actually, who knows, the bottom line is I'm never going to try it because I might be afraid. Damn. Yeah.

So you'll never do like skydiving. Oh, fuck no. Fuck no. Or like bungee jumping? Nope. Nope. Never. You'll never get me to do that.

I want to skydiving. dive once. I do too. I've been talking about it. I don't want a skydive once. But you gotta go with somebody on your back though, huh? Yeah, you need a lot of jumps to be able to do it by yourself. How many jumps you need?

I think it's over 100. I could be wrong. Imagine jumping out of a plane a hundred times. Yeah, I'm definitely not doing that. I'll go fucking away. I would get, no, there's zero. I would probably have a heart attack if I went skydiving. I would die. I would land comfortably on the

ground, parachute deployed, and I'd just be completely limp. I have a heart attack in there. Soon as you jump out, you pull the shoot. I don't know what the odds are that the parachute doesn't work,

but they're high enough that I would never do it. Oh, it's less. It's only 25. That's actually not that bad. Oh, 25 jumps. Yeah, to go to then go solo.

Yeah, it's still a lot of jumps. I don't like that responsibility. It is a lot of jumps. I mean, you can knock it out in a month that you really dedicated. If you go every day, skydiving, like it's your job.

I just, I mean, it is some people's job. You talk about unnecessary risk, though. That's true. That's maybe the most avoidable death of all time. Just don't get in a plane, go up in the sky and jump out of it. Let's see here, though. What is the, there's definitely someone who listens to the shows, like a skydiving instructor. Or Billy definitely has someone on his list.

Yeah, skydiving. I want to do it so bad. If anyone out there wants to take Aaron and I out, I'm in. Big T you out on that. Yeah, absolutely not. Also, it seems like something that might not be big tea friendly. You never know. Oh, did you see that that lady on TikTok that got upset because she went horseback riding

and didn't tell her that there was going to be a weight limit beforehand? No. Remy. Horses could just bear all over the weight. Yeah, she was very angry at the place at the establishment because they didn't tell her ahead of time that she couldn't go horseback riding. This is actually good odds, bro. 0000000000-045% of skydye.

as a result in death in 2020. But that's more than zero. Yeah, it's higher than zero, which is what it would take for me to do it. But if you do driving, if you do walking, if you do flying, it's going to be all more than this. Right. But here's the thing. If you get in a car accident, there's a good, even like a bad car accident, there's a good chance you're going to survive.

If one thing fucks up when you are skydiving, you are dead. Yeah. No ifs, sands or butts about it. And it's a horrible, awful death because you're thinking about it for 30 seconds on the way down if you don't pass out. So they say even the people that do die, it's not because of equipment malfunction. It's because skydivers were pushing themselves beyond their limits. So it's like pretty safe to do. You know what else is safe?

Not jumping out of a plan. Actually, I would argue that not jumping out of a plane might be more dangerous. So it's, I would disagree with you. Anytime you're on an airplane, you should jump out because statistically, no, no, no. I'm saying if you're just going about your day-to-day life, percentage-wise, from the looks of the statistics, you're more likely to die from something else rather than you dying from jumping out of plane. But unless you're in like some weird emergency, you like you have to drive places. You don't have to ever skydive. Like you'll never.

That's true. There's never a situation where it's like, oh, shoot, I have to skydive right now. Okay, here's the top 10 most dangerous recreational activities. You ready? Number one, any guesses? Can I have a hint? Fucking. I don't know if I can give you a hint without just saying what it is.

Drinking, going to a bar. Shooting range. Free solo climbing. Oh, yeah. Shooting range, that's relatively safe. Very safe. Yeah. I wasn't thinking solo climbing.

Free solo climbing is a recreational activity. Might be the stupidest shit ever. I'll never do. I don't fucking what. There's no way in hell in doing that shit. Yeah, that guy, the Alpinist, I don't know how he, like, you have to be so fucking crazy to do that. I think we're talking about this.

There's this Netflix. There's this Netflix documentary called Hope's, Hope Solo. No, free solo. Hope So is a soccer player. Oh, whatever. So, yeah, okay, so, okay, damn. Well, the free solo shit, that shit was fire. Like, never mind.

That was dope-ass documentary, but that shit is dumb. No, but he's never do that. But that's, it's like, he's crazy. You're always in a game of one-upsmanship against yourself if you're a free solo climber. And if you're at the top of the game like that dude, Alex Honnold is, you just keep trying to find crazier and crazier routes to take. And eventually, eventually you're going to get got by something. That's what happened to the album.

The only way you win is basically dying. And at that point, it's like, it's not even about, like, it's, you have an addiction. Like, you have a problem. Like, it's not about, you have an issue. You have like an adrenaline. What they call like adrenaline junkies? Like you need that fix. Yep.

Straight. Yeah. Finish the list. So free solo climbing is number one that's climbing without any sort of gear on you. Number two is base jumping. Which one's that? Base jumping is when you jump off of a structure and you have a parachute. So it's skydiving, but it's from a much lower altitude.

And like a fixed surface. And a fixed surface. So it's like jumping if you were to climb to the top of Freedom Tower, jump off, pull a parachute. you don't have a margin for error where you can like wait an extra five seconds to pull your shoe number three is wing suiting

which is wing suiting is crazy because like it's just people that are flying people can Oh there's that little squirrel suit they have on Yeah you jump off a cliff or a mountain and then you go through like rivers and valleys and you can steer yourself but then if you make a wrong turn you're fucked

Number four is Bull running I don't know what that is It's like Oh run Running of the Bulls. Running of the Bulls. Yeah. Okay.

So it's not, I was, I was thinking it might be something else. But yeah. 100% of people that died during that deserve that shit. That is the dumbest thing to do. Yeah, people always say like that's one of my life goals is to go running with the Bulls. Why? I, that's dumb. It's very dumb.

Number five, hang gliding. So I guess that's- I wouldn't do that one either. You don't have a motor. You're just up there. You don't have a parachute. You're probably not high enough to parachute out of the hang glider. Yeah, all it takes us like a really strong gust of wind, I think, and you're just, you're toast.

Yep. Number seven, scuba diving. This was pretty high up, actually. I didn't think that scuba diving would be this high up. But I'll say that, you know, cave diving seems like it should be on this list. I don't know why cave diving isn't higher than scuba diving. Number eight, recreational boating. I guess.

Especially in Lake Lanier. Yeah, I was going to Lake Lanier has a, as a disproportionately high percentage of recreational boating accidents. And also just being drunk. People are drunk on boats a lot. I don't think people get drunk and go skydiving. I think that's the main thing. People just get hella faded on boats. As a matter of fact, every boat ever been on somebody's drunk.

Yep. Number nine, big wave surfing. I can see that being dangerous. I would never do it. And number 10, heliskeying. this is where people jump out of a helicopter ski down a mountain and then parachute down to the ground

why isn't that number one bro it's like 60 yeah it's combining like three other things on this that could be on this list that's literally like the famous tweet that's that goes around every hockey playoffs it's like why watch overtime playoff hockey when you could do cocaine and write a motorcycle

out of a helicopter yeah John's voice that is hella skiing jump out of a helicopter ski down a mountain and then parachute down to the ground. I really wanted to do that when I was younger. Hellesky? Yeah. Like me and my dad looked into it.

Why did you go? Because I mean, you just explained what I decided to be a good parent. Yeah, my dad. I guess a better question is why did you want to do that? Because I was 10 and I was like, or young and I was like, this sounds like a cool idea. I wanted to go to the top of Whistler and do it. Why do you have to bring the parachute into it? because you got to wait what do you mean like why would i do that well no i understand

jumping out of the helicopter to land on the mountain to go ski yeah but then why do you got also get on the parachute yeah where do you where do you parachute you just ski to a cliff and then you ski off the cliff and parachute i always thought it was just you get in the helicopter they they drop you off and then you're like basically back country skiing i got to say that sounds skiing in general like skiing and snowboarding in general are really dangerous dangerous. I love it. Like, it's one, it's my favorite thing to do in the winter besides play hockey. But it's real, I mean, I see every time I go, someone's hurt. Like someone's getting, you know, carried down the mountain. It's crazy. Yeah, you can like run into a tree. There's so many people. You're like,

you're going fast. It's hard. It's hard to stop. There's ice, especially in like North Jersey. There's ice and it's scary. I'm going to add to this list trampolining. Oh, I love If you get a trampoline, your kids are going to break an arm. Who is that? No, Jabba Chamberlain got, like, seriously hurt on a trampoline, right? Didn't he, like, lose a shit ton of blood? Yeah, I think, didn't he break his ankle? Yeah, he, like, really badly.

Yeah, it, like, derailed his career, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, trampolines are fucking dangerous. Yes. Every, like, there's, there's one or two kids in every town that has a trampoline, and they invite all their friends over, and there's always a kid over the summertime that breaks an arm, breaks a leg. It's just bad. Why would you ever get a trampoline as a parent?

wanted one so bad. Wait, Aaron, would you ever let your kids go to, like, a sky zone or like a... Yeah, we've been. Yeah. But I'm always with him. And so, like, the number one rule is don't go off and go do other things with other kids. And so they play with me, you know what I'm saying? And so, like, I think the reason traveling is are dangerous is because people don't

understand, like, their body. They don't understand how to control their body. And so I teach, I taught my kids how to control their body, which is hard to do. would just try to get height and that's not the goal the goal should be understanding your body and what it can do on a trampoline it's a very very mature way to look at jumping on a trampoline but anybody that gets on a trampoline as a kid it's just like send me higher yeah they said he almost died like he lost that much blood job of chamberl yeah that would be a pretty bad way to die really bad way to die that'd be a shit way to go out a trampoline accident um so if you look at

sporting activities that led to the most injuries number one is working out to his basketball I think that's just because more people play basketball. Yeah. Or I'm thinking people like, yeah, that's actually surprising. People have heart attacks. Heart attacks playing basketball? Yeah, like running. Yeah, it's an outdoor sport on the hot pavement.

I could see how it happens. Sprending ankles. Or how, isn't that like a football guy thing where you're like, I want to die in the middle of the field? Like kind of the same thing as basketball. You just kind of dropped it. Aaron's like, no. Bicycling is on this list.

It's not just Joe Biden. Bicycling's on the list. then there's a big drop off and then there's football and then playground equipment soccer ATVs swimming baseball trampolines that's on the list of the most uh sporting injuries out there i would i feel like swimming you don't really get injured swimming but you die while swimming right you can run if you're like swimming laps you can like hit your head on the if you dive into a shallow end? Yeah, diving in shallow in the pools.

Yeah, but I feel like swimming is dangerous in terms of just like straight up percentage of death. Yeah. Water is just dangerous in terms of that. Yep, some most deadly substance known to man. All right, so we want to get into our interview real quick. We've got a dog trainer, animal trainer. Brandon McMillan is in the studio with us.

And I'm just going to say, we're going to have them back at some point in the future. This would have been a good interview for Billy to be on. I went out and I told him, I was like, hey, we got a guy that grew up training tigers and he's a dog trainer, animal, behaviorist. And Billy got very, very angry that he was not able to be on the show. But we'll have him back on the future. Brandon McMillan, he's a dog trainer. And we get into a lot of stuff with him.

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You'll love them too. and now here's our interview with dog trainer and animal behaviorist Brandon McMillan. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest in the studio. It's Brandon McMillan. He's got a new book, The Story of Your Dog. We're very excited to have you in the studio. I just alluded to it a second ago before we started recording. We're dealing with our own discipline issue here with, I guess you could call him a pet.

He's kind of a pet of ours. Is he the office pet? He's, yeah, he's like a, he's like a yellow lab that has, uh, Endless amounts of energy, but still pisses in the house sometimes. But he's a human. So I'm talking about Billy football, obviously. And Billy is out on a, he's been suspended for a month from the show. I want to find out some dog training tips that we could potentially use on him.

Like if you have like a hyperactive dog that sometimes won't come when you call him, what's the best way to deal with an issue like that? How do you make a dog understand that they need to respond to their owner's commands? Well, first of all, how old is he? In dog years? Well, in real life, yeah, yeah. In real life, he's 23, I believe. No, no, in, okay, no, dog years. I don't know how that works.

It's a human being. No, no, no, this is a guy. It's a 23-year-old man who's basically, he acts like a yellow lab. I'm so confused here. We're starting this off on a van. No, he's, he's our former intern. and he is basically like a yellow lab in the office in that he's just very friendly, outgoing, gregarious,

but he deals with, he struggles with his own discipline sometimes. So I'm trying to see if we can use any dog training tips. Oh, I would definitely say shock collar then. Okay, got it. All right, good. All right. Case closed. Fair enough.

I'm invoicing you for that one. Appreciate it. But yeah, we appreciate you coming into the studio here. I'm fascinated with dog training. I've always been around dogs. I worked for a couple dog adoption agencies. And I called myself a used dog salesman back when I was I was setting up cages and stuff outside of a pet smart.

But they would always give me like the problem dogs to try to, I would try to like teach them the basics and and make them adoptable, turn them from from dogs that had like no structure whatsoever and try to figure out how to find them home. So it's something that's like close to close to my heart. So I appreciate you coming in. Can you give us just like a little bit of background in terms of where you came from, how you got into this line of work? Yeah.

my father was a tiger trainer in the circus. So I grew up literally around tigers, lions, and bears. I did that basically, as far as I could remember back, pretty much from the time I could stand up, I was feeding my father's animals, cleaning cages when I was like five, six years old. There's pictures of myself. I put it on my Instagram every once in a while you see me like feeding a baby tiger or like an adolescent tiger.

And so by the time I was 18 years old, I had pretty much like, I don't know, probably 12, 13 years of experience with wild animals. Wow. So I moved to California when I was 18 and I started training for the movies. So I did that for a little over 15 years. And so movie training is very high-level training. And so we were one of the bigger companies out there. If you ever saw The Hangover, that was our tiger. Oh, cool.

So that was Katie. I raised her from the time she was about maybe, I don't know, four months old. trained her her whole life. So she was a very safe, reliable cat. We had lots of big animals like that. So people always ask, how did you make the jump from the big, the big animals, the big exotics, to the small domestics, you know, cute little puppies? Well, the story is very simple. In 2012, I got a call from a buddy in mine. He said, he was a veteran and he said, my buddy just got blown up in Afghanistan and he was he survived but he survived with uh missing two limbs and his right arm was not working the way it was so he says it possible is it possible you can

train a service dog for him and i said well i've never trained a service dog but it's the same exact things that we do like for commercials we used to do super bowl commercials or you know the dog would run to the fridge open the fridge grab the bud light or something like that and so i was like yeah let me give it a shot. It sounds pretty simple in my book. And in the in the in the TV world, we used to train things like that. We'd have like two, three weeks to train something where in the service dog world, a lot of these service dog trainers would take two years to train something. Yeah. And so I saw I met the guy and I saw what he needed. He basically needed things retrieved off the ground items picked up and brought to him. And he needed what's called a brace. The dog would technically

become like a like a cane because his prosthetics he's walking on basically. They don't work the same as like human knees, you know, you need a, you're always always off balance. And so I got him a big doby. This thing was like 120 pounds. And he could use his shoulders. You say the word brace and literally used the doby would stiffen its body up. And he would use the dog as a cane getting up and down steps and curbs. So I did this in a matter of, I think I trained the dog in four months. And most surface dog trainers were like, this usually takes like a year and a half, like 18 months. And so when I finished that one dog, I delivered him to Walter Reed Medical Center in D.C. I thought that it was going to be my only dog, my only service dog I ever trained.

I was only supposed to spend just a couple days there. I spent months. I stayed and I literally slept on this guy's couch and I met all the veterans. And then I started really like, you know, understanding like the need for service dogs. So that's when I flew back to California a few months later and I quit my job as a movie trainer. And I started solely training service dogs. And it branched out to other dogs, service dogs, therapy dogs. ESAs, people with, you know, mental health issues. And so that kind of kicked me on a whole new

journey. That's fascinating. And it sounds like you had a childhood that like it completely different from most people. Like most people grow up and they see tigers on TV and they're like, oh, that'd be so cool to be able to play with one. You actually got to be around them from a young age. At what point do you do the tigers kind of become? And maybe they never reach this place. But like, is there ever a level where it's like, okay, the tiger. of a certain age, now more of its primordial instincts are going to start kicking in. You have to be more careful around it. Or is it just like if you train them correctly from being a little kit or kitten or whatever you call them when they're small, then you can always be around them

safely? No, I'd never trust a tiger, even the ones I raised from birth. So Katie, the tiger that I mentioned to you, the hangover tiger, she was our safest tiger we ever had. But even as safe and reliable as she was, I would always demonstrate because we trained, we had a wild animal training school that we would have, you know, like every, every class, we'd have every few months, we'd have another class and we'd have anywhere from 20 to 30 students. And I would always do the same demonstration with my students. This is a long time ago when I was still doing it. And the same demonstration I would do was I would put the tiger on a stay like 50 yards away. I'd put her on a down and a stay. And then what I would do is I would tell everyone, this would be the first day.

This would be their first five minutes in the class. And I wanted to remind everyone the animal you think you know is not what you know. This comes to wild animals. I don't care how good you are with wild animals. You are not as good as this wild animal is at full predation. And so what I would do is the cat would be, you know, just lying on the ground and looking around. And then I would fall to the ground. I would lie on the ground.

And she would boom. Her eyes would dilate at the size of 50 cent pieces. Ears would pin back. She would start stalking me. and then she would run at me full speed. That's why I put her like 50 feet back. She'd run at me full speed. And when she was about 15 feet away, boom, I stood back up and she would stop.

And I would, the reason I did this is because I always tell people, never turn your back on a wild animal. I don't care if you raised it. I don't care if you know this animal so well. It owes you nothing. It owes you nothing. And once its instinct kicks in, this is how you hear these people like, you know, getting killed by their own wild animals.

It was all instinct and it was all situational. Yeah. Do you think that a tiger like that that you raised since it was young, was there like an element of love? Do you think the tiger loves you? I don't know if it loves me, but I know there was a, there was definitely a mutual respect there. Yeah. I mean, she respect me as an equal and she respect me as part of, you know, as they, they respect you as, you know, when it comes to, when it comes to animals, they'll, they'll accept you as one of their own. But if you make one mistake, just like in the wild, I mean, animals will kill one of their own in a second. I don't care if it's,

family member sometimes. So yeah, they animals in the wild, it's all about survival. Humans, we do things for greed and gluttony. Animals do things for survival. And so when it came to that specific situation I was just telling you about where I'd lie down, it was her instinct kicking in from the wild saying there's an injured animal right there. She didn't see me anymore. She saw an injured animal. I have to survive. I have to eat. I have to live to fight another day. Yeah. So that's what was going through her mind. It's like the most basic instinct possible. 100%.

And you can't overcome that. Like that's something that's hardwired into their brains. Yeah. There's no, there's no domesticating a tiger. Yeah. When it came to the wolf, I mean, it took us over 200 years to domesticate that animal. And that's a wolf. A wolf is nowhere near as dangerous as a tiger.

Yeah, you said in the book, or at least I read your website and said that there's a, you know, the prehistoric link between wolves and dogs. There are five wolf characteristics that govern dog behavior. Yeah. What are those, what are those characteristics? Well, there's, what it really is is there's, there's characteristics that, that wolves have that you really can't take the, the instinct out of them. So wolves have something called prey drive. Okay. Now, what I, what I try to make the correlation in the book, I try to make this very simple.

All I do is I say, the book basically is about all your dog's issues and all your dogs things it does are basically, it's a direct correlation to the wolf. So let's take pray drive, for example. prey drive is a dog's instinct to capture and seize prey this is how wolves survive in the wild so it's just like the tiger story i was just telling you when it sees an injured animal or it sees an animal and it's hungry it will it will capture it will stalk the prey and it will go after it this is where this is where the wolf basically uh stands out as a predator so when you see a dog in the street has prey drive that's directly from the wolf so we see a lot of dogs um uh uh Like when dogs get into their, when, when big dogs grab a small dog and just shake it, we've seen videos in the internet.

It's brutal. So we've seen like, you know, videos where dogs, they like, the big dogs, they go after a small dog. They're stocking it. They're stocking it. And they grab it and they shake it and snap its neck. That's, that's basic prey drive. So when you, when you have, when you have a wolf that was domesticated into a, into a domestic dog as we, as we know them now, all your dogs, basically. characteristics are still a wolf. Essentially, that animal is not that old as far as how long

it's been domesticated. We only domesticated dogs 15,000 years ago. And over that 15,000 years, we basically, we bred over 400 recognized breeds today. And so what I try to make the correlation in the book is all your dog's issues are because it was a wild animal 15,000 years ago. And when we domesticated them, we basically turned them into working animals. So for thousands of years through empires through the egyptian empire the the the ottoman empire the roman empire the british empire these these animals these wolves that we domesticated were bred to work they were bred for solely a job we didn't have exterminators you know a thousand years ago so we bred terriers terriers have prey drive do it kills things yeah what do uh would a terriers kill rats yeah like terriers doxins

Doxins. They have like a doxen club here in New York City and they meet up with their doxins. Yeah. And they take them out on the streets and let them hunt rats. It's crazy. You don't think of little wiener dogs as being these like vicious killers. Yes. But they see a rat and they're like, okay, it's on.

That's prey drive. Yeah. And so that is a direct instinct of the wolf. And so what, so the big question we have is what happened in the past 100 to maybe 150 years? Okay, let's say the late 1800s. What happened? The Industrial Revolution happened. What did that do?

That created all this technology we have. Now we have exterminators. Now the terriers out of a job. Now we have, you know, we have all this technology that at one point in time, the dogs did. The dogs did all this technology for thousands of years, but slowly but surely, especially when the industrial revolution hit, now in the past 100 years, maybe a little more, we took all those dogs jobs and just boom. They're being automated.

Yes. No dogs want to work anymore. It's a problem in this country. No, no, no. The dogs still want to work. Do they? Yes, but we took the job away from them. And here's the fun part.

I always tell this to a lot of my clients because they say I have a dog, it's, you know, he's got too much energy. He's always looking, you know, he's looking getting into trouble, this and that. I say here's what I want you to do, okay? You have a, you have a, let's say you have a shepherd. I want you to take the shepherd to an agility class. And I want you to give it a job, a fun job where it actually has to use its mind tactically. And just like that, it solves the behavior issues. Why?

Because now you're putting that mind to work and now the job, the dog is working. and it's a working animal again. Yeah. Once we took those jobs away, that's when all these behavior problems began. That's, that actually makes a lot of sense. And going back to our own issue that we're dealing with with a person, I feel like we could, we could apply some of those things to Billy, like his, we need to get him, we need to get him active. I need to start giving Billy jobs to do again. Yeah, you need to give him jobs. We need to put like a vest on him so that he feels like he's at

work. Right. So this was my dog over here. This was Leroy or a couple pictures of him back there. there. Mastiff? He was, yeah, he was about 165, 170 pound English Mastiff. English, yeah. He passed away like a year and a half ago. But he, when it came to his mind, Mastiff minds are, they're, you know, pretty simple. They're not the smartest dogs.

They're loving dogs. They're awesome dogs. But I used to just give him like a bone with peanut butter inside of it. And then that would be his job that he would work on for, it could do that for like two hours, trying to figure out how to get the peanut butter out. Not the smartest dog in the world, but we loved him. He had an issue, though. It wasn't, I don't know if it was.

was his fault or if it was the fault of the other dogs, it would be around him sometimes, but tiny dogs hated him, absolutely despised him. So we'd run across like a Chihuahua or Jack Russell Terrier and they would immediately try to attack my big dog. And Leroy was such, he was just like such a loving dog. He would just try to hide behind me and run away from them and tuck his tail between his legs and try to get away from these little tiny yippy things. Yeah, yeah. What is it about small dogs that makes them such jerks sometimes? Well, that's all small dogs. Most small dogs are they have Napoleon complex. Yeah.

Yeah. Especially chihuahuas. Couldn't it be me. Well, you know, it's funny. I always say this. I always said the pit bull is lucky. The chihuahua is only nine pounds because if the chihuahua was 50 pounds, the pit bull wouldn't even be on the radar as a tough dog.

Oh, if a chihuahua was 50 pounds, you wouldn't be allowed to have a chihuahua. It would be a hyena. They would be illegal. Yeah. What is it about the small dogs though? Is it they have to act like they're big and tough because that's how they're able to survive? I can't tell you there's any like science that proves it. But yeah, I mean, I will say this.

dogs psychologically, they do have to be a lot tougher to survive. So what I've noticed, I do, back in California, I've got videos all over the, the internet, YouTube of this. And what I, what I've done is I've gone onto the, into the streets of like South LA and even into the deserts. And I capture stray dogs. I either capture them with my hands, a lasso, or I capture him in a trap. And what I, you, you lasso stray dogs? Yeah. How do you do, like on foot or do you have like an ATV or? No, no, no. I, I bait them in. I got to get treats. and I kind of like, I dropped like little skittles, just not actual skittles, but I kind of got to get them close to me.

Now, if I get them, you know, point blank close, I have a what's called a catch rope. It's like a, it's like a lariat, but a very short one. All I got to do is just hook it around, just kind of noose the neck, pull it, and then it becomes a leash right away. Okay. And then the dog starts struggling and fighting me. But then, you know, after a few minutes, it calms down. Now, if it's like, from me to you, I can throw a lariat and just basically make it around

either the head or the body. You could lasso me right now? Technically. I feel like that's a lost art. in America, isn't it? We used to do a lot more lassoing back in the day. Nah, not the Cowboys in the Midwest. They're still. They're still doing it? They're still riding hard. Yeah. That's

very cool, though. Big Tee, got any questions for them? Yeah, I feel like we rushed past Tigers too quickly. Yeah, fair. Like, I know you work with dogs now and that's awesome, but like I feel like Tigers deserves more discussion. So, like, I'm assuming

the biggest mishap you can have with a dog, like maybe they bite you and like that would suck. But like, for the most part, a mishap with a dog is ain't going to be that bad most most of the time well i will stop you right there so much more people are killed by dogs every year than tigers right well yeah but but i'm saying in what you do uh did you ever have did you see a mishap with a tiger come close like what's what's the worst thing that ever happened with a tiger uh to me or somebody else anything that you know of or saw i saw my my My son, my father grabbed by a 400-pound Bengal tiger, inner thigh, picked him up in the air, shook him, six feet in the air, and just kept shaking him.

He's now missing a big U out of his inner thigh. Did he continue doing that job after that? Yeah, he almost lost his leg, actually. So this is back. I remember I was a little kid when it happened, and it was like the late 80s. And at the time, the doctors, they weren't familiar with animal bites, the specific hospital he was in. And they weren't really familiar with it. So they sewed it all the way up.

And with an animal bite, you're supposed to leave the bottom. You're supposed to leave it open for a drain because it's going to be a massive infection. They sewed him up. And so his leg turned gang green. And he almost had to amputate because the infection was pretty much taken over his body. So bottom line is if you get bit by, I don't care if it's a dog, a cat or a tiger, you need to leave a drain in the bottom. So it up.

And the very last bottom area leave like one inch. Usually they put like an actual, like a straw. It's like on the Sopranos when Tony got shot in his stomach, they left it open. Spoiler alert, if you haven't seen the Sopranos. Yeah, yeah, sorry. I can't speak on bullet holes. It was the worst season of the Sopranos, so I'm really not spoiling much. But that's, and so after you saw that, you were like, I want to do that when I grew up.

You're like, this seems like a good line of work. Believe it or not, I actually went further. Now I die with Great Whites. Okay, so I have a question and it's going to sound, it's going to sound rude, but I mean this in the most respectful possible way. What the hell is wrong with you? Like, why? Why do you decide to do, do you have like an adrenaline thing that you, that you like to fill? Or is it just like you love wildlife? No, it's, it's, I always explain this because this is the most common question I get asked. People are like, why do you, why do you do this as a job? They're like,

there's so many other jobs you could have done. You could have sat at a desk with a suit and a tie on and, you know, probably made it more money. I'm like, first of all, I'd blow my own brains out if I had to sit at a desk all day. No offense to you guys. No, we don't say, this is the only desk that I sit at. But no, I understand what you're saying. Like, yes. If you're an outdoor guy, you don't want to spend your life under fluorescent lights. No, it's been ingrained in my system. So fear never registered to me with these certain things. Other fear registers to me. You know what I'm saying. I'm afraid of a lot of things. But when it comes to big animals, that fear doesn't register to me. Here's what I equated to. You see these big wave surfers like in Hawaii, Portugal. These guys are

riding mountains. I would be scared to death. You know, I surf myself and anything over like 10, 12 feet, man, I'm scared the death. Those things pound me, and I live in California. We've got some big surf out there. That scares the living hell out of me. When it comes to big animals, I don't care if it's a great white, an orca, a buffalo, a tiger, a lion. I understand the mentality. I've been, it's been ingrained in my genetics since the day I was born.

It's just like the big wave surfers. Most of those guys, they grew up in Hawaii. They grew up in Portugal, northern California. They were consumed with this every day of their life. So it doesn't scare them. They were already on, they were already surfing when they were five years old. They were with their father when they were like, you know, seven, eight years old, surfing 10, 12 foot waves.

When they're 16, they're already out there surfing 30 foot waves. Yeah. Same with me. By the time I was, you know, there's pictures of me on my Instagram. My mother literally holding me in one arm and she's holding a baby tiger cub in her other arm. Five years old, I was bottle feeding them. 10 years old, I was training them. 15 years old, I was already professional.

So it's been ingrained in my system where the fear didn't register. Now, having said that, yes, I know what they can do to me. I'm not an idiot. Steve Irwin died. Yeah. If anyone, you know, if you can want to use example of anyone who knew his stuff, Steve Irwin, of course, knew his stuff. So situations happen.

There's just a freak accident that happened to him. I mean, yeah, technically, technically it wasn't a freak accident. I mean, stingrays, they do shoot their barbs up, you know, when something hovers over it. Yeah. It's just, you know, look, I wasn't there. I didn't see the video, so I'm not going to even speak on it. But the reality is, you know the risk when you're dealing with wild animals. You know what they're capable of.

We actually had the guy, I forget his name now, the 100 foot wave guy from the HBO series. Garrett McNamara. Yeah, Garrett McNamara. He came on part of my take a couple months ago. And I was talking about how much he loves surfing, how much he loves the ocean. You know, he's actually allergic to seawater. What? He's allergic.

Yeah. Are you serious? He's allergic to saltwater. And he's just like, yeah, you know, if I spend too much time on the ocean, I get extremely itchy. It becomes very uncomfortable for me. But that's like where he lives. He lives in the ocean. So funny story, I'm actually allergic to cats.

I'm allergic to all cats. So not just house cats. If you had a cat in here, I'd be sneezing. Now, lions, when they rub against you, they put a lot of weight and they rub on you. They start right here and they rub their tail. And so if I'm, if it's, you know, California summers, it gets hot and I wear shorts. And so I've got, you know, my, my calf fully exposed. And they wrap their tail around my leg.

And suddenly I get these hives, this like rash for like an hour of like this spiral around my leg. Leopards do it too. And that, see, it's so weird to me. Like you guys both kind of have that same thing where you're obsessed with something. But it's actually like damaging to your body to be around it. But you just love it so much. You're like, you know what?

It's what I'm going to do. Well, you know, look, I'll say this. What else would I have done in my life? I don't know. Yeah. I'm not good surrounded by four walls and a roof. Do you feel like you're caged right now? Kind of, yeah.

I always look for the exits in places like this. I'm like, all right, if something happened, what would I be? Who would I use as a human shield? So like if you look at humans from that same evolutionary standpoint, like what are the guiding drives that we have that may be like fuel our everyday functions that we don't even think about, you know, like how cats and wild animals like a tiger, if they see somebody lie down, they're like, oh, food, that's prey. do we as humans have anything like that that like subconsciously affects our behavior?

I'm sure. Yeah, we do. I mean, if you think about it, there are basic instincts that we will never get out of our system. I'm hungry. I'm horny. I'm thirsty. I mean, these are basic instinct. Big three. Yeah, of course. Yeah. I mean, those are kind of the basic survival skills. And you have basic territorial skills. So of course, you know, we have a house and what are we have in our house? We have a front door with a lock. We have our fence. And what happens is we're always fine people walking on the sidewalk, all of a sudden somebody walks one step into our front lawn. What do we do? Ah, we scream at them. Yeah, get off my lawn. It's the same with a wild animal. Yeah, it's our territory. Yeah. It's interesting to think about it. So funny story, I was in Egypt.

Two years ago, it was actually the very beginning of the pandemic. I was there when like no one was there. I already booked the trip. And Egypt has probably one of the worst stray populations on the entire planet. There's, I mean, there's, there's more strays than humans there. And the strays there, they literally, this has been ingrained in their in their in their culture in the in the in the in the stray population now for hundreds of years where the strays are born and raised strays they're not they're not like you know they just escape out of someone's yards they're actually wild animals yeah they're wild dogs and they're so they are so instinctively a tactical about their their dividing lines of what their territory on the streets are I was I was sleeping in the middle of the night I heard this massive fight going on outside my window I look out there and there's a big dog fight going on and there was a park bench. So I went out there the next morning and I noticed that park bench was the dividing line between these dogs. And so what they did was they used the park bench. This is our territory. When one dog stepped over the line, it was attacked by 20 dogs. That's fascinating. Yeah. So we did the same thing. They should treat the park bench like

that should be the goal. It shouldn't be the dividing line. The park bench is probably Primo's sleeping territory. Like I would expect that one of them wanted to just like stay up there, king of the mountain type thing. Well, these these are packs. These are like literally packs of here and then another pack of 20 on this block and if you you cross that line I'm telling you there's a dog fight to be had it's gangs it's total gangs of Egypt but we do the same thing yeah no it's true it's true like you don't think about like the defensive mechanism that kicks in when you see a stranger like walking up onto the path to come up to your front door you're like who's that do I trust this person you know you go through all those calculations yeah like you know a stranger

danger that's our animal instinct mad dog got any questions yeah so as someone who has raised dogs and been around dogs, do you, like, have a pet dog? Or do you think that as someone who's trained dogs, like, you want them to not be confined to four walls or whatever? No, of course, of course. Because the reality is, right now, currently in the shelters, I mean, every year, there's upwards of one million dogs a year euthanized in America because they can't find homes. So, of course, I mean, all my dogs are rescues. And, you know, I mean, at any given time. I've got four right now. I had five up until a few weeks ago. I had a little chihuahua. She was a pistol. But yeah, I mean, of course I have my domestic dogs. So then what breeds do you have?

I've got a, I've got a flat coat of retriever, a lab, and then I got two little white fluffs. And believe it or not, the white fluff, they run the roost. Interesting. Yeah. What, in your opinion, can you give us your top three dogs? Of my, your three favorite dogs, breeds of dog. Okay, I'll say my three favorite breeds. I won't say a specific breed, but I'll say my style. I like shepherds. I like shepherds because they're very trainable, extremely problem-solving intelligence.

Shepherds are, they have quick response mode. I like herding breeds, border collies, cattle dogs, because, again, high-level intelligence and the instinct of those dogs are off the charts. Yeah. The way like a blue healer will look at you sometimes, I look at that. that dog, and I'm like, that dog's smarter than I am. Oh, 100%. Like, it's got me figured out right now.

Yeah, and then I like, I really like Jack Russell. All terriers I like, but Jack Russell's, because, again, the, I look at the, I look at the instinct of the dog and the history of the dog, and this goes back to what I was saying before, like the terriers were, they were bred to kill. They were bred to kill small things, which is why Jack Russell were the exterminator, you know, back in the era of the plague, you know what I'm saying? Herding breeds, if you think about it, instinctively, they have not changed one bit because they're the ones who allowed us to keep a herd of cattle or flock of sheep in a compact

area. Humans could not do that. And to this day, border collies, if you just put a border collie out into a field with a flock of sheep, you wouldn't have to train it. It would just do it naturally. I've noticed that some border collies, they'll, they'll hurt people. If there are people in a backyard, they'll, like, make sure that they all stay together. They walk circles around the outside, around the perimeter and like just kind of brush up against the outside of people. Yeah. And children. They love to, they heard children too. Yeah, no, they heard everything. basically. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Like the instinct that you don't even have to train at all, it just kicks in when they see it. Exactly. And so that's actually the first chapter in my book.

I literally talk about the story when I was a teenager. I had a border collie that I took to her herding ranch. And I didn't know, you know, I was still, I was a rookie at the time. And I, you know, I asked the woman who owned the ranch, I said, so how do we, how are we going to train this? She goes, train it. She goes, let your dog go. So I did. Boom. That dog in 30 seconds. The dog was like eight months old. It was like young and naive. And 30 seconds later, this flock a sheep that was all dispersed everywhere. She had them just in a tight little bunch. And I was like, and I asked the woman, I said, how did it, how did she know? And she looked at me and she says, they were wolves. Yeah. Those three words changed my entire outlook on the domestic dog. And that's

what, that's what kind of set me on a new path of how I train. And why I train the way I do is because I, I use the dog's natural instincts. I don't try to like, you know, fit a square into a circle. I say, this dog was a hurting dog. We're going to train it according to its instincts. Yeah, otherwise you're fighting, what, 15,000 years of instinct and perfected breeding. Yeah, same with the, you know, the German shepherds. There's a reason why we use German shepherds and Malinwas in the military. It's no fluke, you know, these dogs, they're bred to work in the military. This is why you see more Malinwas walking around town now.

Yeah. Bad idea. Really? Yeah, it's an oozy. It's an oozy with no safety. So they have to have like a very experienced owner trainer that is giving it all the necessary outlets for all its instincts that it has or else it's just going to be

it's a time bomb. Yeah. I mean there's a reason why military and police specifically use the Malin Waws. I'm starting to see more around town and I'm not going to say all Malin Waus but I would say upwards of probably 80% of them. They're not meant to be pets, you know, they're too much energy not reliable with strangers.

I mean, you want to have, I mean, I get calls all the time. People are like, oh, I've got a Malin wild puppy. I'm like, well, call me in a year and a half when it's biting people's faces often. Yeah. Would you say like the, I've always heard that the Fila Brazzaliero is like the most dangerous dog breed out there. I know a lot of countries have actually banned it because it has that. It was bred to like guard the plantations.

And if there was a slave that was trying to run away, the dog's job was to chase it down and kill it. And that's something that's been an issue in like some of the countries in South America that have like had had to ban this dog from their like their areas. Is that a more dangerous breed of dog or a Belgian Malinua? I would say, well, put it this way, the Melanois, because we see so many of them in this country, I'm going to say statistically speaking, it's much more dangerous because anyone can get them now. Yeah. Anyone can get them. And again, I love Melanwas. I love training them.

But there's a reason why the military and police use them, you know, they're not meant to be a pet. They're one of the only, they're one of the only dogs left in the world that is actually specifically bred for work. There's very few dogs that are actually still bred for work. Border collies are still good herding dogs So ranchers use those cattle dogs And malonois and certain lines of shepherds So there's two lines of shepherds There's a working line

And there's the companion show line The working lines This is what people have to do their homework on When you get a shepherd or a melanoi You have to ask is this a working line Or like a show companion line The show companion line is more The calm shepherds

And the melanchoes Most of the lines are the working dogs They're high energy. They're driving as hell. And they are not good with strangers. And you see this stuff. Once they hit about nine months, which is adolescent for a dog, you start seeing the behavior problems.

And people want them as pets. I'm like, well, you got a working dog as a pet. And you're telling this dog, every genetic in its body is saying, I need to work. I need to do something. And you say, hey, Fido, I'm going to work for eight hours. I want you to sit and stay on this couch and not do anything for the next, you know, half a day. And you wonder why you come home and your couch. looks like a white shark took it out. Yeah.

So you're telling me you would disagree with this article that says it's talking about Malamois. This dog breed only expresses their love to family members, making them an excellent choice for a family dog. Who wrote that? That is from, this is kind of a Billy moment. That is from S-Stay.com, S-T-A-Y-Y-Y. I don't know. Are they Melan-Wa breeders? I would probably guess they are. It looks, I don't know what this is.

It sounds like, oh, it's a dog training. website it looks like. Yeah, well, no, so they might specialize in Malawas. Well, it sounds like this is like the buzzfeed of, of dog behavior websites. It seems that way. You can sign up for Pup News, news, newsletters. I will happily debate with him live on the air. I would, yeah, happily. Can we, can we find a phone? Oh, absolutely. You can get a melon law breeder in here. Contact us. It's, um, a lot of people, they, they get their dogs without ever doing the most basic background research. 100% of what they need, uh, for a dog. We have a longstanding debate on this podcast, actually. But Aryan Foster is one of the co-hosts.

He's not here right now. He's going to be joining us in a little bit, probably just later on this afternoon. But I want to get you out here. I think you have what maybe, oh, we said we go 30 minutes with you. Are you cool sticking around for another like 5'10? All right, cool. So a debate that we've been having on the show for a while is could Aryan Foster defeat a wolf in hand-to-hand combat? Now, Aryan was a, I want to say like a four or five-time pro bowler?

four-time pro bowler lead led rushing in the NFL yeah he's he's a great athlete is what we're getting at he's mediocre hands subpar speed but really great athlete very strong very shifty he says that he could beat a wolf if it was hand to hand do you think he has any chance how big is this guy he's a big dude yeah he's probably six one six two yeah probably like six two two 30 yeah probably about that um professional athlete so he's and he's also trained in Jiu-Jitsu. That's not going to work against a wolf. You can't use the wolf's aggression and

speed against it? Trust me, you can't. A wolf doesn't tap. That's the difference. You can try it on a wolf. They got teeth. Yeah. Go ahead and lock that arm up. They're going to bite your thigh. Yeah. No, here's the reality. If it's a, if it's a dominant male, a big dominant male, like 120, 130. Oh, you're talking about the wolf? The wolf. Okay. And it's very hungry, desperate. This guy is going to take some serious injuries. Serious. So he might bleed out. I can't tell you who'd win that. I'm not going to get in that debate anyway because knowing some of these knuckleheads out there, they might actually try it.

Yeah. But I will say this, a desperate animal is a dangerous animal. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think Aryan's desperate. That's the thing. Yeah. Like, Aryan's rich, so he's too comfortable.

I don't think he's got like, he has too much to lose. I wouldn't even bother trying. Yeah, well, so he's had this debate for years. He's like, every time somebody interviews him, I think he had a long debate with Joe Rogan about like whether or not he could do it. I think prime Aryan. Foster could defeat a wolf. I think now he's gotten too, he's gotten too soft and content with his life. I don't think he has anything to prove anymore. What belt is he? I think he's a black belt

in jujitsu. Yeah. He says he can crab walk. That's all about, I know I have about, he can crab walk. If you can crab walk, you get a black belt in jujitsu. Well, I mean, maybe no ghee. I wouldn't say a ghee because you got nothing to grab onto. You grab that hair, your hand's going to get bit. Yeah, just go nude, nude against the wolf, mono-e-mano. Oh, then your junk's going to get bit. So I've always heard that one thing that you can do, actually, I haven't always heard this. There was one person that we interviewed a long time ago that said to establish dominance on their dog, their dad took off all his clothes except for his underwear, went out in the backyard and wrestled his dog and pinned it. And then from that moment on, the dog respected his dad.

I have never heard anything so ridiculous in my life. Dogs will not respect you automatically if you can submit them. I mean, I wouldn't recommend trying it, but I had somebody come to me a few years back and she, I'm not going to name who it is, but she came to me and she goes, Brandon, I got a big problem. I said, what's up? She goes, I just got biped my dog in the ear. I said, how'd you get, how'd you do that? She goes, well, I heard, I read something on the internet and if you want to show dominance to your dog, you bite them in the ear. And I was like, how'd that work out? You realize a bite causes another bite. Yeah.