Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Drug Smuggling ft. Randy Lanier

Episode Date: October 20, 2022

On today's episode of Macrodosing, we're talking weed and speed with one of the biggest drug smugglers in U.S. history, Randy Lanier (2:09:00). You'll hear everything from his early life racing cars to spending almost 27 years in jail. Also, an Alabama player apparently assaulted a Tennessee fan and Donnie got a new beer made after him. Of course, you'll even get another edition of "What's The Beef?" All this and more on today's show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. What's up, guys? Welcome back to macrodosing. PFT is unfortunately still out dealing with some personal issues. Nothing too sinister. Just needs to take some time away to take care of some stuff. Back in the studio, we got Arian from far away in Texas. We got Wantan Dong back with us since nanodosing. We had a great time. Did you just say dong? Did you say Wanda Dong? I didn't say we. There was a G.

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Must be 21 to purchase. Consume responsibly. All right. So, I don't know if you guys saw, but. Wontong dong, dong. I'm still over there. Okay. Okay, it was one slip up.

Yeah, we got there. We got there. I feel like I've been called that before. Oh, yeah. 100%. Yeah, for sure. First time I, dude? Yes.

Okay. Very cool. No, I've never had the chick be like, ooh, bring me that wonton d'ong. Yeah, so how did you guys, um, uh, dozens performance go? So, spoiler alert, if you haven't watched the dozen yet, one, go watch it to, spoiler alert. We lost, but there are upsides to this.

Okay. Um, the three of us, I think, outperformed what anyone expected. So that's great. Um, big. he did have a little bit of a slip-up on the first question, did not trust Arian with his answer. It's not that I didn't trust him. It's that, and I should have gone with that because none of us had any idea.

Ari, it was the X, I forget the guy's name, is the new head coach of this Western Conference NBA team. And Arian was like, jazz. And I was like, do you feel good about that? And he was like, no. And I was like, I didn't know that the jazz had fired their coach. So I was like, so I just guessed, I should have said jazz, but I said Thunder. And it was the jazz.

Granted, we lost by three. Yeah, also we need to. I wasn't mad at that, though. You know what I'm saying? That's why I ain't tripping there. It was like, I wasn't that sure. It was kind of like a guess because I had, I had heard. I came across my Twitter time, like, like something about somebody jazz.

And so I wasn't super mad about that. You know what I mean? It was, we got, the team morale is high. That's what I care about. The team morale high. I do have a small issue with your niche. Yeah, we're changing the niche category immediately. I feel like your niche category should be something that we all relatively know pretty well, or at least two of us.

And I felt like me and you could have probably hinge the bets on like Tennessee. Yeah, Tennessee ball or something like that. So here's the way it used to work. It used to be each person had one. I had one, you had one, Madeline had one, and the other team picked which one you. got. And Jeff asked me, what is your niche category? He didn't say your teams. So I said One Tree Hill, which show I know a lot about. Under the impression, he was asking y'all that same question. No. Turns out that's not how it works anymore. And I was giving him the one for the

whole team. So, but he also, you're not allowed to use the same one twice in a row anyway. So our next one has to be something different regardless. I would really like my niche category to be. To be, used because I do know it inside and out and it's one direction lyrics and I really have me rolling dog that our our niche category topics

for that round like ours was one tree hill and theirs was Jonas Brothers lyrics and I was like I'm out I have no idea what any I had there was no chance to be getting either one of those I was out I was out the thing about sports is though the reason I didn't do

sports if you do something with sports Jeff makes it incredibly hard. That's why we're doing One Direction lyrics. Yeah, some of them questions was like 2011 SEC points leader. Like, fam, it's so crazy. I mean, fuck it's crazy. I mean, fuck, that's crazy.

That's crap, that's what I'm saying. That's crap. I thought I was an NBA fan. They was, they was asking crazy questions. What did Jake Mouse? I have a plan real quick. I have a plan on how to study for this. I'm going to share it with you after the,

after the pod, Big T. So, Mad Dogg, would you like to? explain why you said fuck jake malicek oh jake jake knows this so welcome jake malicek to the podcast did you tell him to come in here i did i pre i prepped for this oh okay so you billy you're going against me fuck i don't know i just think he should be here to tell his okay so if you again if you don't know who jake malisek is he is on my social team him and i would you consider his friends jake malisek i would okay jake and i sit behind each other at work we spend eight hours a day together. Jake's one thing is UVA football. Don't say anything. Don't interrupt me. Jake's one

thing is UVA football. That's what he's known for on Twitter. That's what he's known for around the office. So out of nowhere, Jeff throws a UVA football question at us. I also, Big T agreed with me on this. I said, we have our phone friend. We don't know the answer. UVA football, Jake Malasek. It is a natural occurrence of events. Am I wrong, Big T? Yeah, hindsight being 20-20, it was a mixture of an Alabama and a Virginia question. We should have called Trav. But again. But I was like, yeah, who was Virginia?

It was basically this guy was, A.J. McCarren's backup at Alabama, transferred to Virginia and played for a season. Who was it? So I was like, it's basically asking who was Virginia's quarterback in 2013, which seems like a pretty easy question for a self-professed Virginia's super fan. So Becald-Jick-in absolutely has no fucking. idea what the answer is. I in hand. Also, Jake Malisek makes me mad five to ten times a week. Oh, this guy's the woe. Yeah, he's the worst. So I lost my shit. And then after the dozen, after we lost, again, this wasn't the make or break of the game. Momentum shift for sure. I went off on

Jake Malasek and pretty much turned the whole entire social team on him for a little bit. I wasn't mad that you missed the question. I was upset that you missed the question. I was, I was upset that you miss the question. I was mad afterwards that you were mad. I was 14. Like that was a sentient like that was an excuse to miss it. I just brought Jake in to tell his side of the story because I thought it was pertinent to the story of this game. Oh, Jake loves telling his side of the story. Oh, all I'll say about this is, um, like my parents went to UVA. They went to business full there. Oh my God. So like I, I have technically like been a UVA. I haven't been another college fan. I will say this like my dad's me soon. My mom's a Jew from New York. We weren't really sports people

growing up. Like I had to teach myself my probably I probably watched my first football game when I was 14. So like I wasn't really into the whole thing. I also looked up this guy. The answer was Phil Sims didn't even start on a two and 10 Virginia team. So it's not like he was a legend or anybody that was really notable at Virginia at the time. That night I actually went to my buddy's apartment to watch the Monday night football game and they all went to UVA. And I asked seven of them and one of them knew who this guy was. So I again, I feel bad that you like I miss. I miss. the answer for you guys. Big T missing his niche and Fran stealing it is arguably

or not arguably definitely way worse than what I did. Again, we learn and we grow. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, ain't gonna come on the pod. I'm just saying. And I just start dogging the homie. Who told Jake to come in here? Billy. I accept. I accept I wasn't even that mad at you. But what we're not

going to do is dog to homies. No, Big Tee, no, no. This is what, Aaron. This is what Jake Maliceck does. And this is why he's voted. It's called the spin zone. He spin zones you, and it makes you feel crazy. He gaslights you. If you're a girl, don't talk to Jake. He'll gaslight you out.

Would you like to apologize to Jake? No. There's no apology necessary. No, I get like this with Jake all the time. I miss the question. I feel bad. There you go. And no, end a sentence right there.

Also, he didn't feel bad in the moment. I also, I would have felt way worse had I have heard of the guy. Last question for Jake. Jake, how is Mad Dog as a boss? A boss? Okay. Is she your boss? No.

I thought you said he's on your social team Yeah We're on it together Oh I thought you said No the way she was social The way she phrased it was that It was some clever

Furbiage Oh I wasn't even trying to be clever We sit next to each other She's like she's on my team Oh yeah Sounds like it's your team We are team Is it your team?

No Are you the me and team No that would be gas Okay But look we They're a good They're a good trivia team We have several more games

We're gonna play and the we were we were fine we were fine i'm excited about i'm excited about it also let's go not to my own horn but i slayed the dozen round it was awesome yo you you you you saved us a lot of the bonus the waffle house don't yeah killed that shit but to be fair carl's junior was on there yeah everything we we all we all slayed it collectively that was like an awesome showing by us it kind of makes me sad that like the one thing i knew really well was fast food restaurants like that's not a great look on my part. I think we all killed that, though.

I was proud of our performance. And we only have room to grab. When do we play again? It's like a rotation. We don't know yet. You might not play for like some points. Yeah, it's like I was on a team and we got rotated out with a two and one record. Yeah.

There's now like 24 teams. Yeah. I think they. I thought it was like a tournament. Yeah. I think Jeff said he has us slated to play three times. Half the questions are related to sports And sports trivia, I just don't know

I got a sports trivia question right Love sports, don't know sports trivia at all I mean the thing is I like The questions before 2010, I'm just lost Right, it's hard But again, that's nice because Arian Like is a bit older and he has that And he was like in college and doing that

I will say I'm sorry I'm so mean to Jake Mousk But I'm really not, he deserves it most of the time He's an asshole can I mean Is that no? I think that's all right cruel I think Jake's He hustles He works hard

I don't really know I'm not well But now I'm definitely Going to view him As an asshole No he makes me So mad All the time

Jake's actually He was He's been on the bottom The Tobol of the social team And he got a little What's the word Big for his britches

No When you're naive And then you get Angry afterwards He is Not scolded Scorned Scorned

He's scorned Yeah Yeah Jaded That's what I was looking for Jake And angry afterwards. Jake loves to ruffle my feathers.

He loves to just kind of dig a little deeper. He knows how to push my buttons. Jaded. I don't think so. Loves, loves pushing my buttons. Jaded was the word I was looking for. Naive and angry afterwards.

I'm not giving you that one. Good kid, though. Good kid, though. I am going to blow my brains out and blame it on them, though. That maybe was intense. But I was so, that made me, that he got the U.S. Who the fuck was that? Hank, Hank has entered the studio.

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So, yeah, that's how I'm getting to my Christmas apps. What are Christmas on you in the group chat while you were talking that out? Fine. I'm actually feeling pretty hot on the ad placements, so we're just keeping it going. You got it. You got to space them shit's out. Like, literally just read an ad, bro. Like, you can space them shit out. He's eager. It's like two ads in 20 minutes. Well, I won't forget them. I won't forget them. It ain't about you. It's about the listener. Nobody was to have two ads in 10 minutes.

But now we can just get it going. Yeah. Yeah, now we're here. And if we're on like a tear, we don't have to stop. Yeah, we don't have to stop. My Christmas ad. You're like a YouTube. You're like walking YouTube. Like seven ads back to back to back. What's up listeners?

How's your Christmas ad, Xavier? Oh, I'm down eight and a half pounds. Wow. I'm rolling. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. We're getting there.

Big Tina, I got a big basketball game tonight. Heard. Whoa. It's first game of season for what? How did this come about? Somebody, somebody film me in on a deets.

Yeah. So where do you play? We have a, we've been playing pickup all summer with a couple guys who live near each other. and it's a lot of fun. But now that it's becoming winter, we found an indoor league we can play in, and I'm actually hyped.

Which I'm very excited about. I have not played an indoor basketball game since I've lived here. You can't do it. We should actually get someone from stool scenes to come. Now, let's, like third game. Let's get the kinks out a little bit. I'm excited. I mean,

just been playing so much pickup. The Zootie's in that group chat. You can do it. I am excited. I took collegiate intermaral basketball more seriously than I've taken just about anything in my life so it feels good to have that rush back. Do you think you and Big T could beat the whole yak in basketball?

Oh, 100%. Just us too? Yeah. Just you too. Actually, yeah. Okay. I mean, Big Tee gets rebounds. Yeah, we'd absolutely.

It's a show here. It's Big Cat. But they have like seven people. Nick. Yeah, they have like seven people, but none of them can. really play basketball. Seven on two?

Five on two, yes. Okay, yeah. Five on two. Five on two. Yeah. Okay. Excluding Big Cat, because he's got a jumper. Yeah, he's probably the only one.

Yeah. On the squad that can actually play a little bit. And that's what we need. We need like an immoral championship within Barstow. Yeah. I think just having Arian on the squad like you guys would dominate a lot of sports. Curdons. Arion has that, I'm not trying to, you know,

Dick Ride right now, but Arion has that natural athletic ability that it just, he picks it up instantly. It's like we get on the court. We get on the court for the first time outdoor. He's in slides and no warming up. He's just hitting threes just consistently on the dog. But that's, but that's from, that's from hard work. I put a lot of diamond on a hardwood, doggie.

But you ain't lying. Like, I was playing golf yesterday. I went for a round. And I had, I played maybe like, you know, 10, 15 times prior to that. You know, I've had clubs and shit. But consistently, I've been playing for like a good month, like every, every week for about two times a week. And I was playing with his all head. And he was like, your technique is amazing.

And I was like, I know I'm really going to try to, I'm going to try to break in a year, I'm going to try to break par in a year. I'm really I'm taking lessons I'm like I'm gonna break par in a year What's par? 70 70 well It depends on the course right It was like 70s 72

I know I know like in those numbers Cause um 4 play does all those videos like Breaking 100 Yeah Caleb was doing vids too He was he was trying to get the par To 50 he was trying to get to 57 strokes

No I think he was trying to take That's how high up Yeah he was he was Be on tour Stokes above par so he was trying to get rid of those i'm i'm in denial about having to start playing golf because my post collegiate athletics is done so i'm like trying to do this basketball things i hope that scratches the itch before i have to pick up golf well the only reason you would golf is fun right yeah but

i'm in denial because i suck at it because i haven't played ever the only reason you would have to pick it up which is happening to me now is all my friends play now so like we went to a bachelor party and they're just like waking up every morning and playing golf for six hours. And so it's like, do you want to hang out with your friends? I know. Or do you not want to hang out of your friends? But there's two types of golfers. There's the cats that are like, fuck it.

I'm out here because everybody else out here. I was going to drink. Every time a car girl come, I'm going to get like four or five drinks. There's that kind of golfer. And then there's like people who like just love this shit. Good shots, bad shots. They're obsessed with it. And it's you get the bug.

And it's just I'm, I'm that right now. So I'm playing two, three, three. times a week. It's fine though, though. I think you give it the world. The thing about it is this is what I actually like about it. Every other sport I've ever, like, engaged in, you can kind of be an athlete about it, right? You can figure it out athletically. Golf is not that. Golf is pure technique and repetition, and you can't just muscle your way through it. You have to actually practice that shit and you can't just fake the funk. That's what I like about it. So it's challenging mentally and physically. I'm big on whenever the guys want to go play golf.

oh let's go let's go to like the driving range like that that's fun to me that's like hitting shit far that's fun but like like a top golf guy yeah that's really fun well i think once you start really not caring about your score like out of college i was you know like a 10 12 handicap like i was actually very serious about golf but then like i started playing with my friends and like they didn't care so i just stopped caring and it makes a lot more fun i don't even keep score when i go yeah Yeah, I'll take... Oh, I keep score. I'm too competitive.

I see that. I'm just not talented enough to keep score. Yeah. When you start getting to the point, though, where you can birdie and you can par on a consistent basis, like the competitive nature kicks in. You're like, I don't want to score well.

Once I stopped caring, I stopped keeping score. But there are, like, fun side games you can play. Like, there's a game called Wolf that's really fun. There's a ton of, there's a ton of, like, really fun side games you can play. Scambles are fun too. Yeah. Scramble is like you just play best ball within your group and that's just like fun.

You compete with everybody else but not your group. Your group is like all playing together so it's like the best shot. That's fun. Yeah, I like that. I have a concept that I think you would like call Adventure Golf. So it's on this like crazy course where there's cliffs and waterfalls and jungles and stuff. So like you might have a hole. You have to like hit it up onto this cliff and then actually climb that.

cliff and then, or you have to hit it across a river and then you actually have to forward the river by either like making a raft or just trying to swim across. Is that a sting? No, it's not. It does not exist. But I think it's a concept. So, you know, it kind of like involved the joy of golf with the excitement of like outdoorsy activities, extreme activities.

That's why I liked about pheasant hunting, videos coming out with Sydney Wells, Barstle outdoors, pheasant hunting is like that. Yeah, you guys had to, let me, you were, I thought fesson hunting

was, was pretty tame. It is to be tame, but like if you, you can get athletic with it, uh, depending, like a lot of guys,

guides will just like, you know, set it up. But like when the birds run, a lot of guys won't chase after them. They'll just look for the next down bird. But some guys be like, if they're with a good group,

you can chase after the bird. And that is a rush. You're chasing after the bird. The dogs run in front of you. And, like the dog sniffing out the bird and the bird pops up and you're sometimes running with the gun on the run making shots and it's like call a duty it sounds like a blast it's so fun literally bang blast now did you guys did you guys eat the pheasants afterwards yeah chef donnie shepped them up it was

awesome i actually still have a bunch of carcasses in my freezer i have like a ton i've been meal prepping with them it seems like a tasty bird yeah very tasty but you got to be you got to like keep it greasy because it does get dry. Okay. Yeah. With a duck, you don't have to worry about it getting dry because those things are oily as fuck, but I love them. I mean, a peaking duck is so good.

Yeah. I think it's the most delicious bird out there. Yeah. You guys ever have a peeking? Donnie, what's the most, I was about to ask, Donnie, what's the most exotic, like, dish that you have consumed? I don't know if you've talked about it on here before, but Ballute was pretty exotic, That's what they eat in the Philippines.

It's like a duck embryo. Oh, yeah. So it's like an egg that's half developed into a fetus. So you crack open the egg and you might have like a little bit of a beak, a little bit of a feather, but then half of it is still just like an embryo. That was disgusting, but it's a delicacy in the Philippines. So to each their own. That's wild.

Pigeons are pretty good. Those are popular in China. I mean, I don't think you'd want to eat a New York pigeon, but. Have you ever had, like, a snake heart? I took a shot of snake blood in, in Taiwan, and it's funny, this place that I got it from was right across from all these whorehouses. And I guess Taiwanese people think snake blood gives you a really rock hard boner. Yeah.

So they would rip shots of snake blood and then go banghunkers. Yeah, with, I mean, snake, snake, you can see how that thinking took place. Yeah, yeah. But snake meat itself is actually very good. I took a shot of snake blood once. Very different scenario. What were you doing? Not that.

Just sort of fuck it. Like, they had for sale in Chinatown. I mean, my buddy were like, yeah, let's just do it. Wow. Yeah, I didn't know they really sold snakes at the Chinatowns here in the U.S. Yeah. You got nowhere to look. Okay.

Petco. Yeah. Snake beat is good. I think I might. Yeah. You were drinking snake blood at Petco. roll it up we would have buy your corn snake okay we're just we're just draining the blood

the pet goes in place like what do you do I also saw that bit of a guy who gets high off of snake venom somehow have you seen that that is dangerous very dangerous yeah so they get high on it yeah he like injects himself oh Jesus snake venom I can see licking toads that's a pretty classic one I mean Mike Tyson does that that some people lick the wrong toads and just basically get a bad trip. Like people mix up the Colorado River Toad, which is the prime like toad that goes down into Mexico that all the original peoples used to use in ceremonies.

But the Marine Toad is the one that's in Australia, like the big ones that in the invasive species. Yeah. That just blew out of control. And those ones have bad, bad poison. So only let, source your toads carefully when you're thinking of trying to trip with them. I mean, would you be able to get a psychedelic toad to the office? I could. I could actually look it up right now.

Yeah, because I did watch that video of the guy who went down to the Amazon to find this one type of toad that gets you really high. But I assume there were like laws about actually trying to traffic that toad into the U.S. Well, okay, so $100 for a for about this is a. baby though they're expensive because all the adults when they start secreting the poison they get they're very expensive so this one's going for a hundred bucks for a sub-adult um no california sales are legal legal and yeah it's legal in new york oh another place has it oh sold out yeah i mean we should see where mike tyson gets his from um i would do a toad i would lick a toad in the studio where does my

so so for us non understanding what the fuck you're talking about you you lick a toad and it makes you hallucinate so the toad the toad uh poison which they secrete from poison glands that are on either side of their shoulders

uh has DMT in it and that's you know all the rage with the rogues sounds like it also has poison in it though right but you know the poison is the DMT it's supposed to make the whatever prey animal that's trying to eat the toad, trip out

until you forget about eating it. Yeah. Mike Tyson has tripped off toads 53 times in his life. So he must have a toad guy. Yeah. What's the name of this year? Colorado River Toad.

Well, that's just one type of psychedelic toad, right? I think it's the best psychedelic toad. I think their poison has the highest amount of DMT where you're not actually getting poisoned. Because, like, a lot of dogs that eat toads, they, like, start foaming at the mouth. They go into cardiac arrest, and we're trying to avoid that type of because I think the... Tyson said he tried the Sonoran Desert Toad. I think the Colorado River Toad and the Sonoran Toad are closely related.

I think the Sonoran Desert Toad is... I'm sure he's tried a few different types. that's wild but it just seems like obviously doing shrooms is so much so much easier than trying to track down toad venom um but i mean i assume toad is a lot more intense yeah so the colorado river toad the colorado river uh goes through uh goes through i'm pretty sure the colorado river goes through the grand canyon am i right and think yeah i think that That same river then goes into Mexico into the Sonoran Desert. Okay.

They're the same, like, I think they're subspecies of the same. Apparently it's Aphrodisiac too. Yeah? All right. Yeah, the Colorado River Toad is sometimes called the Sonoran Desert Toad. All right.

Yeah. Or the Bufu Alvarius? Yeah. All right. Well, if there's some, like, big milestone own or special occasion, maybe we should splurge on a couple toads. If we hit, how many YouTube do we got?

We got 26.3K, I think. If we hit a million, if we hit a million. A million? Yeah. I mean, I'm looking for more of an excuse to do this. Like, maybe like, I'm 50K. No, no, yeah, yeah. Go lower, go lower than that.

But I'm sure there's a lot of people who listen to the show that aren't subscribed to our YouTube. If you do subscribe, we'll do a lot more fun stuff. But yeah, let's do 50K. I like that. The thing is the DMT trips I'm terrified of because I have friends in college you did it and they say that like one of my buddies was like he felt like he lived a whole lifetime. Yeah. And like he had like a whole experiences like fell in love with someone and like had like a whole life somewhere.

He couldn't really describe where he was but he just experienced a whole life and he lost it all when he came down. Oh shit. And like, he was like, yeah, like made me really sad for a while, but it then made me more appreciative of what I have now. Yeah. And does he feel, does he feel like his experience was real? Yeah, he says it was so real. He said that and like he felt like he only really talked about this one person he fell in love with. Some people say they have whole families.

Like I know some guy said like he had kids in a whole family and a whole life. a farm and then he lost all that this guy just lost like a girlfriend basically and uh he was just like i know people see like a certain type of elfer like a certain type of being but i didn't hear people like having relationships or families with them i don't know um but that's just that's just wild to me i don't know if i'm like i don't want to put myself through emotional trauma just yeah like i'm like okay with that like i microdose shrooms and that keeps me pretty yeah right path Yeah, like one guy I talked to who did it, he said he saw the very beginning of the universe and he saw the end of the universe. And he just like saw it all that when he came down, it was kind of like harder to go back to just like normal life after seeing all that.

But for a lot of people, it's it's helped them. You know, just look at Aaron Rogers. He's like, he says he just feels like a completely different person now, but in like, in a positive way. Yeah. Definitely ridges you of negativities. T-U-Ted off about anything? No, I mean, it'd be hard to make me mad this week. Yeah.

After, you know, great weekend. There was an Alabama receiver who was going around punching Tennessee fans leaving the field. I don't know that I'm as personally offended by that, but... I saw some of those videos. I think he may have been... I saw one video of him running out the field, and if he had actually hit that girl, she would be on the floor. Like, she, I mean, he may have, like, he may have, like, flipped them off and said something to him. That's what the outstretched hand was.

I don't think so. You think a 230-pound wide receiver that- I don't think he cocked back and punched her full force. Well, there's another video. Yeah, I'll stand there. Yeah, there's two of them. There's one. I got, I got tagged in one, and his assholes, like.

Don't show this to Aryan because he's going to side with the player and say that she deserved it. Shut the fuck. There's two of them. There's the one with the girl that's from further out. And then there's a guy who's holding his phone and burton reaches out and slaps his phone out of his hand. Oh, he got booked. That's fake news. Oh, that's Richard G. West.

It's the same fake account that got PFT. I mean, that guy's living rent free on this show. Yeah. He's got more plugs on this show than anybody else. ESPN tweeted out a tweet from him. Like, nobody checks anymore. it's crazy it's unreal send a bit send a video i think he knocked her hat off she's not she's not wearing a hat it's tough the thing is that i i i'll see you got a video yeah i'll send both of

a team rushing on your feet like like students rushing on the field after a loss has to be like the worst feeling ever in the most angry moment ever like i'm just yeah especially if they're all taunting him yeah but i mean it doesn't if he actually punched a woman or even punched a guy it doesn't really excuse that but okay i'm watching now she does oh no the girl made her account private the video's still all over twitter i'll go find it maybe she made it private because she knew she was caught in a lie oh smacked him in the head okay oh just a little smack well she said smack i mean everyone's acting like he like cold clocked her it's too

it is I mean it's too I mean it looks like something happened but I mean which pixel are we looking at you know what I mean And then here's the other It's hard to see what happens

It's hard to see what really happened In this one it's a first person So you can see very clearly Oh there's another one let me see Yeah so if he did that to one person It stands to reason That the video of him doing it to someone else Oh this is to someone else

Yeah he did it twice Okay No, this is the one Billy just sent I sent two of them Yeah, a big teaser So it's loading Where Oh, it's a loading, okay

Oh, he smacked a phone That was being put in his face It's not really in his face The guy's just like filming what's going on Isn't that what DeBaby Did he got in trouble Some like Pham was trying to take a photo of him And then he beat the living shit out of him

Maybe the baby's got in trouble for a lot of things the phone the phone smacking one week that's a shit weak didn't the baby kill somebody i don't think that's true all right it that is it was in self-defense yeah he ran up on a mat do ran up at walmart pulled out a gun on him and he shot back he shot first i think yeah not nice avery not nice you know what i meant happens yeah nah no no yeah he'd been a He's been in a lot lately. Anyway, but yeah, no, I'm doing great.

All right. Nice. Here's a little factor cap. I saw this article. I was killed and now I'm reincarnated as a boy, and I can prove it. A five-year-old boy claims that he was an African-American woman killed in a fire and reincarnated. Little Luke Rulman spooked his parents as he began incessantly insisting that he used to be a woman named Pam when he was just two years old. but how can he prove it he okay so the young boy's mother erika told ohio's fox two that her son began speaking of a woman named pam from a young age but the family didn't know anyone by the name one day luke finally explained who pam was he turned to me and said well i was she recounted well i used to be but i died and went up to heaven i saw god and then eventually god pushed me back down and i was i was a baby and you name me luke couldn't a provide

a last name or... I think, yeah, I mean, if... Something like that. If he can hang out with Pam's family and, like, just knows everything about Pam, then we might have something. But right now, he just seems like a very confused little boy. Super Cap.

I'm calling Cap. There's been a bunch of those stories over the years. Right. What? The thing is, hypothetically, let's just say, like, there's a lot of thoughts on reincarnation that people who are reincarnated

they do remember their new lives as a child, but then once their memories start, they forget. And once they're able to communicate, they forget. And maybe he just got messed up and he was able to communicate before they took away his old life memories. Yeah. I mean, it says they reached out to Pam's family and they're like, he does bear a lot of similarities to Pam. Pam's real? Yeah. Pam's real. Yeah. So it said while. Pam was a real person who died. What? How does this five-year-old know about Pam? And they showed everybody who was ever named Pam has died. Yes.

But they showed him five photos of black woman and he correctly picked out Pam. And I guess he and Pam both love Stevie Wonder and having enthusiasm for playing the keyboard. Okay. There's got to be. Come all. Someone explain me this Pam story. No. He kind of explained it.

There's a five-year-old claiming that he was Pam, and then he finally explained who Pam was that it was that she died and he was reincarnated as her. And then they found that there was this actual, this Pam who died in a fire. Okay, he's from Ohio. Where is this, 1993? This was it in 1993 or was when Pam died? The Pam died in 1993.

Luke claims he can remember leaping from the birding building to his death in 1993, Jesus, before being reincarnated after he met God. What? He said he met God. Yeah. This is kind of like that story of, you know, did you guys ever hear this story? I actually read it when I was younger. Heaven is real.

Is that about the person who fell through the ice and was dead for like an hour? Heaven is real. Heaven is for real. And it's about a kid who, um, he, his three-year-old son had a near-death experience. And then when he came back, he started sharing details of his visit to heaven. But the thing is, his father was kind of a preacher. And, you know, uh, let me look at the exact. So he, so he had an emergency surgery after having acute appendicitis.

He describes to his incredulous family about having seen the surgeon operating on his ruptured appendix, his mother calling people in the waiting room to pray and his father in another room yelling to God to not let him die. He also speaks of incidents where people he never knew or met about meeting a great grandfather who had long died before he was born. An unborn sister he never knew about who had died in a miscarriage and how he meant Jesus. Colton is the kid and Todd is the father. But wait, let me, Todd Burpo is a pastor. Okay. So, I don't know. Kid sees heaven father just happens to be a pastor remembers it that's kind of where i'm like okay like yeah that's lit that's lit bro he's been preconditioned yeah i mean fire the brain is an amazing thing like i have

no doubt that your brain can create heaven if it's still like slightly on yeah and i mean maybe he was just having a sick dm t naturally being released in his brain Yeah, because that's what they say happens when you die. So I have a theory that exterior DMT use, like from a toad, might fuck up your dying moment because you might have a feedback loop where your body stops producing DMT because the trip tells it to stop producing DMT. It's like, you know when you do steroids and add testosterone to your system, your body stops producing natural testosterone?

Yeah. What if that's what it's like with DMT? DMT and then DMT doesn't release when you die and you just have you just feel death and it's terrible and you just you don't get that like ethereal feeling when you die you don't go towards the light there is no light because you have no your brain is not doing DMT I'm willing to take that risk but yeah that that's like that's just my that's what scares me out the whole DMT playing or just keep like a a capsule of DMT on you at all times you know what saying and whenever you feel like

you're about to kick the bucket and pop up a pill You just have it You just you have spies Have the cyanide tooth Yeah Yeah To kill themselves

Kick that shit Yeah I like that They're just crunching the Crunching the tooth And then they're like Like Don't die

You're like Nah bro This is my one My one capsule I gotta go now It's a good idea Don't my astronauts have Some shit like that

Like a death pill Or is that There's that kind of folklore They have like a pill That's like a suicide Someone was given a revolver. Pretty sure. That's extreme.

Yeah, because you can't shoot a gun in space. No, I'm pretty sure, no, the Russian cosmonauts were given a gun to fight bears if they landed in Siberia. Yes, yep, yeah. But it was also, but it was also like wink wink, like getting a bad one. Yeah. I mean, there are times where a cyanide pill would come in handy just like, I would much rather take a cyanide pill than just die alone, drifting off. into space. I don't know, man.

Well, it depends. If my oxygen depletes, yeah. We must have. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah, dehydration. You're right. You're not wrong. But I also don't know, like, is a cyanide pill a painless death?

Like, that could still be a really, a really agonizing death. They disagree. I mean, I hope it's painful because that's how Hitler killed himself with a cyanide pill. So I hope he didn't just fall asleep. We must have at some point. talked about shooting a gun in space before because I googled can you shoot a gun in space and I've clicked on the first three results and if I feel like this is the only place I would have discussed that how about Tom Cruise becoming the first the first actor to film a movie in space

they haven't filmed it yet but oh they're going yeah they're filming a movie and there's a scene in the movie where he'll be going to the space station in real life oh well he's going to the space station yeah and they're going to film scenes for the movie there That's awesome. I know. Update on the Sinai Pills. So NASA astronauts haven't had one, but Alexei Lanoff, the first man to conduct a spacewalk, took one with him on his historical 12-minute stroll in 1965.

Yeah. Yeah, because in case he got detached and just drifted off into space. Yeah. I think that, have you ever seen the music video for that, like, this is ground control to manage it? A freaking Bowie. David Bowie. Yeah, I think the music video is someone just like drifting off into space. It'd be pretty fucking freaky.

That's why that movie, that movie Gravity was so scary. Yeah. Yeah. So far. Also interstellar. Ah, yeah. Being trapped on some planet. Yeah.

I mean, if, I mean, do you guys think there's a chance you will, you will, you will. ever go to space? I don't know. No. I don't know. I mean, let's say hypothetically. Well, because they, yeah, they're, David Grootman is his name. That's the guy who always hooks Portnoy up at all the clubs in, uh, down to Miami and stuff.

Um, he just started a company where he, he's opening up this space lounge. It's attached to some sort of balloon. It takes you up into space. and then you can hang out there for two hours and they have a bar, they're going to serve food. And tickets are 125K. So maybe Arian could afford that?

Would you pay? Could, but 125K to go up and party in space for like four hours, I think it is? How far do you go? Can one of you guys bring up? It's called the... So we did a research. I was looking up when Bezos

went to space and that whole big shabang over the summer was it last summer two summers ago yeah it was that whole big shabang he went up to space and I did some research on it

and the height he got to was lower than the highest plane that has ever gone and they were there for like five minutes yeah so he 15 minutes he went up on the rocket and they technically got to space but planes there's like a supersonic plane

that has gone higher than him so it's kind of like yeah you might as well i mean it's not what do they consider in space though because isn't space of the uh ozone layer isn't that like the final yeah but there's planes that he got outside of that it's kind of like pseudo space it's kind of like let's let's pretend we're at the beach and the space is the ocean they like waded in where the waves crash on a calm day space very i mean that i mean that's space i'm gonna give it to them i mean they got wet they got wet that what i'm saying they got the feet way He didn't, he wasn't waste deep, though, but he got, you know, that way.

I meant it that. But hypothetically speaking, wanton, Don. I absolutely would pay $100,000,000,000, if, let's say if it was like on the ISS, right, the International Space Station. I would absolutely pay $125K to go two hours and get faded in space. Yeah, absolutely. And film the whole, but, yeah, I would pay that. Absolutely. Experience of Electron.

Can you bring up the photos, David? Yeah, I don't know if I can because we're doing this. Okay. Yeah. The, um, to see the universe without light pollution is like a dream of mine. Like, I would love to see. Like the, the, the, the, uh, James Webb telescope pictures that are coming in. Oh my God.

They just, they give me butterflies. Just to see if it's real. Like, we, we have a just space is fake, but like, just not joke. Nobody, we don't, we do not have a joke. Big T. thinks space is fake. I just sent what Donnie sent me into that's group chat. Oh, that is, that's legit. apparently you're up there for four hours just just just for the view of the earth yeah so you can't

see the full ball but you can definitely yeah you're you're pretty high up well i would absolutely absolutely i would do it yeah and it's crazy how like having day portnoy will like lose a bet and he'll he'll be down 100k like if i had his amount of money like i would be signing up for things like this i mean some people rather sweat a game some people rather have unique experiences yeah um but that's amazing absolutely and see this is why i advise anybody if you can to get like LED lights in your house it just brings the vibe the vibes are just like just imagine it was like a boring ass 1960s apartment vibe inside of there wouldn't feel as cool if this feels spacey this feels futuristic so if you put like an LED light underneath your desk it makes it feel way

better. Ariens, like, beautiful, beautiful home looks like a college freshman dorm with all of the, like, LED lights around that. Oh, wait till y'all come, you know what I'm saying? We're all going to watch a football game at the crib on the couch and shit. We're going to watch Avatar with a blue light lights. Fax, I got LED lights surround my entire living room, bedroom, bedroom, lounge room. That's just microdosing space.

Yeah. Just microdosing space. Just some LED lights. Just get a little touch. I like, I used to have them in my room. And it was like the, I liked it when you, like, could put it on, like, the rotating lights. And then you're just kind of like in a lava lamp, you feel like. What's the TV update at?

Oh, yeah. How's your? So, okay, they, okay, so they was full of shit. So it's not going to be 143 inches. Oh. We were, we was down to purchase that. But they got back to us and said, okay, well, we don't actually make that size. And we're like, well, it says it right here on your site.

And it was like, yeah, but it's specially ordered. I was like, okay. And there was like, so how do we specially order it? There's like, well, we just, we don't make it that size. It was very confusing conversation. And it was like, well, what's the biggest size that you have? And the biggest size that they sell that isn't paneled. Because I hate panel TVs with the lines in the middle.

That shit's tacky to me. No disrespect if you have panels on your TV. But so the biggest size they have is 98. So we're going with 98. That's still really big. What is that seven feet? I like that, though. You say what?

I like that though. 98. That seems we're coming to watch the semi. Final at Ariens' house. Come through, bro. Come through. Drinks on me, man. It's going to be a liddy. Might have to stream that. That actually, if we made the playoff, that's when Avatar's coming out.

So we should go there. Come through. Stream, stream the semifinal. Huh. You're going to get drunk with us? What's your drink of choice, McTee? You know what my drink of choice is, friend. Orchy.

I don't, actually. Angry Orchard. Yeah. Apples are red. Apples are red, baby. Have you ever had a Macon The Magners cider? Yeah.

I love Magna's. Those are good. Magner's on the Rocks on a hot summer day. That might be my favorite drink. Those are solid. I like the Magners bottles because they're so big and you feel like you're in like an old Irish pub. I've never drank a Magners because whenever I'm in a place that serves Magners, they always

have really good Guinness. Yeah. So I'm like, oh, I got to get the good Guinness. Then I have a good pear flavor. Yeah. Magners' pair. It's crazy like in Ireland, they kind of just drink Magners. and they drink Guinness in the winter

and then Magners in the summer and that's like the two drinks that 90% of the country drinks. So there's this Irish thing I go to around St. Patrick's Day and they drink harp. Oh yeah. And Harp's another one.

I don't understand where's the room for harp. Who is drinking harp? I mean harps not bad and actually in Ireland Magners is called Bulmers because they don't have the I think it's originally called Balmers but there's another drink

called Bombers in the U.S., so they have to call it Magners, some sort of copyright infringement. Have you ever had the original Budvise? From the Czech Republic? Yeah. Like the one that they sell in Europe under Budweiser that isn't made by Budweiser America? Yes. I once came across a Budvise, and it is fire.

Yeah, the original Pilsner. Yeah, like the way from Budvise, Czechoslovakia. Yeah. Or Czech Republic. Yeah. Or what is it? Before, it's the Czech Republic. Okay.

But before the Czech Republic invented the Pilsner, all beers were kind of like brown, heavy, and they created the first golden beer. Wow. It's a fun fact. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. And then someone brought it to America and now they can't. I think they sell it.

I think they might sell it under Budva. What do they sell in America under? They've got to sell it. I think they sell under A.B. I know What's the difference between Budweiser and Bud Light? A Budweiser

Are they the same company? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So we are interrupting this podcast just to bring you a quick beer review but it's a very special beer

because it's my own. A couple years ago I tweeted out that there should be a beer brewed specifically to be drank in the morning and it should be called Don's early light. It was just like a throw tweet. I was super hungover. I drank one beer. It cured the hangover. And I was like, someone needs to actually start marketing beers just for that purpose. And I thought

Don's early light was a clever name. And House Brewing Co. Also, the boys from the podcast, beers, balls and business. Is that what's called? Beer's business and balls here. Beers business and balls podcast. They're also microbrewers. You could certainly say that. Yeah. Nano brewers, Maybe. Sure. Okay. Yeah. You're now nano brewers.

Whatever. Which works for the name of the podcast. And so they saw my tweet and they actually turned it into a reality. So here we have Don's early light. It's brewed with Yerba Mate, right? Oh. So that's where it gets the caffeine. We're a Mote podcast.

Yeah? Yeah, we sometimes drink Mote and go nuts. That stuff's potent. Yeah, I got Yerba at my desk. All right. Yeah. I think it's one of my favorite forms of caffeine. It's got a little more kick than that.

It's got quite a kick, but does it make you super jittery? No, no. It's got, it's one of those plants that have a sort of, they haven't really tested it, but it's kind of just got a little narcotic type thing, like coca leaf type thing going for it. All right. That's in some of the other chemicals, but that's pretty awesome. It's like definitely in our experience, you can feel it. It's like kind of not a head high, but it's like, it definitely gets you going a little bit of a buzz.

Have you thought of the societal implications of a beer that's made for breakfast? Um, yeah, but it's not a beer that it's, you're not supposed to wake up and chug like six of these. I think, I think you only drink like one at a time. Mamosa. They have mimosas and stuff like that on brunches. It's not a big day. Yeah. There is oranges too. All right. Yeah. Okay. You got oranges, Yurbamate and it's a, we can walk you through. So we, we, when you said you're like, we need something to be brewed at breakfast or drinking at breakfast. We immediately thought, wow, what if you combined a blue moon with like tea and oranges because you get the orange from the blue moon and you get the tea because the caffeine and things like that. So we basically

when we were testing this out, we're like, well, let's see what blue moon tastes like with orange juice. Okay. And we're like, shit, that actually kind of works. Like so, so that's what we did. It's a very basic Belgian wheat beer. Um, brewed it like a Belgian wheat took like four weeks probably and then we added some tea in right when we took it off the kettle too. And then we basically We bottled it with, I think it was orange and mango extract. Yeah. So you put real tea in it. It's not like you just, you didn't like crush up a caffeine pill or something.

No, leaves. This is the leaves from the tea, not even like the, just a bag of tea or bottle or anything like that. Real tea, real, real oranges, real everything. All right. Well, let's test it out. One sip. Everybody knows the rules. That is very refreshing.

That's what we like to hear. your hat does does it satisfy all your needs you were looking for in that moment before you tweeted yeah well that was like a morning i was extremely hung over i'm not hung over today but this is definitely hitting the spot well we've tested it we we were hung over at one point when it was done bottling yeah okay so and again we're not scientists we're not experts yeah i mean the only um caffeine alcoholic drink that used to be around was for loco but uh they think there was like a legal case they had to take the caffeine out right and but they're now a sponsor for barstool so definitely drink the non-caffeinated for loco um these you cannot get at the store so

you know i feel fine promoting them uh at the moment so i think so do only like six of these beers exist right now or you have 18 i have 18 all right that's it for now okay for now i'm going to cherish those 18 beers i remember the last time you brought me a six-pack my girlfriend just like drank one one night and I was like I only have six what the hell she did then DM us that's why we made the second case because she was just like I accidentally drank I thought these were like an unlimited source yeah that was like I think that was my last one and she drank it we're like who's this DM from we're like oh shit it's one Tom Dodd's girlfriend we're gonna well I mean it's very thoughtful that she reached out to you would you have to try

sip I'll take a sip okay that's a spear I don't want to I don't want to get Billy going very floral floral floral Somali or Billy over here Very hoppy Very hoppy beer But definitely can taste the flora aromas And a little bit of the small bitter aftertaste of the matte

Very nice Now is it a very hoppy beer Is he just like just saying that to sound It's not overly hoppy Okay yeah It's hopier than a Coors light Which is my favorite here for the record It's definitely hopier than a Coors light

Yeah Well thank you so much listen to the beers business and balls podcast right yeah so you guys talk about business sports and beer yeah yeah that's name explains itself man that that sounds like quite the combo i really appreciate you guys coming through and i'm going to make these 18 beers last there we go and if you need more we'll make more all right awesome thanks guys awesome thank you thanks fellas but a bud wiser is slightly more alcohol it's a little heavier yeah the bud wiser trademark dispute is an ongoing series of legal disputes between two beer companies from the Czech Republic and the United

States who claim trademark and geographic origin rights to the name Budweiser. The debut has been going on since 1907 has involved more than a hundred court cases around the world. As a result, Budweiser Budvar has the rights to name Budweiser in most of Europe and Anheiser Bush Inbev has the rights in North America. Consequently, A, B, Inbeb used the name Bud in most of Europe and Budvar sells its beer in North America under the name Czech Bar. So they do have it in America. I'm to find it that is check far okay we're gonna get check far actually that if i can get some of this by this weekend i will be so bombed so shall we talk some drug smuggling or yeah is it's completely up to you bill is it smuggling time i think it's smuggling time what's how deep are we in we're

about an hour it doesn't matter huh doesn't matter yeah but hey before we do drug smuggling let's just promote the merch a little bit we got new merch coming out today 10 a.m. So whatever you're listening, it might be out already. We got the macro house. Billy's wearing it on the front little waffle house design on the back. It's the whole crew. Billy turn around, do a little spin.

Oh, yeah. Got the whole crew on the back. Yeah. Real picture. And then we got our new Mids line. Bring back Mids. Donnie's wearing it. I'm wearing it.

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in general, because I assume you have other... Well, Big T, I mean, thinking about it, if you know that the beginning of smuggling occurred right with the beginning of taxes. Clue man. Taxes, smuggling was a complete reaction to taxes, to commerce taxes, even types of smuggling were done in a localized way when they didn't even have to move goods to hide merchandise that was to be taxed by the king, by whoever was looking at how much grain you were moving, how much, you know, cattle you had, a lot of shepherds used to, it's, this isn't technically

smuggling, this is more tax fraud, but smuggling is a type of tax frog in a way where they used to like hide their sheep in caves. So when they came to count their herds, they had a whole hundred had a sheep in a cave and no one could see it. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty cool. Smuggling, the conveyance of things by stealth, particularly the clandestine movement of goods to evade custom duties or import or export restrictions. Smuggling flourishes wherever there are high revenue duties

on tea, spirits, and silk in the 18th century England, coffee in many European countries and tobacco almost everywhere, or prohibitions on impartation, narcotics, or exportation, arms and currency. I mean... Like the alcohol prohibition here, that's when it was huge. Yeah. Rum runners. Basically, some people,

a lot of economists never really took into account the impacts of the negative externalities of taxes on the economics. I got into a textbook weirdly, like weirdly on this earlier when researching it, but some are saying that taxes might not have the pot like the positive externalities are all just negated by smuggling. I thought big T you'd like that. So basically the economics of taxes don't work because of smugglers. I hate to see that. And, uh, some of the big smugglers in history were the Americans. America was almost strictly most of the tons of the business and the Americas was all just smuggling because, I mean, some of the most notorious smugglers because back when the British Empire had its arms everywhere, the sun never set, but all goods

had to come straight back to England before they were traded with other countries. So let's say, For example, let's say you were a island in the Caribbean and you were an English island, but you were right next to a Spanish island. You could not trade with that island without your English goods going right back to England first to be then sold. So they could account for it. It happened with a lot of rum, a lot of. And just so that's where pirates sort of got their debut. They were doing deals outside of the arm of the law.

And it's pretty interesting. Just like all the stuff that's been smuggled, I mean, one of the things that we don't consider drugs more so, but that's actually hugely prevalent even today with smuggling is cigarettes. We are actually sitting on one of the biggest cigarette smuggling routes in history. It's called the, let me look it up exactly. Does it go through Chinatown? Yeah, it goes through Chinatown. There's cigarettes coming from China in Chinatown and they all go to New York City. because of the tobacco laws in New York City

because of a pack of cigarettes. I don't know what they are now. I know that Zinn is way too expensive and I buy it out of state, but they're so expensive that people are driving truckloads of cigarettes from Pennsylvania, Virginia, places where there's zero tobacco taxes, and driving them up 95,

which has a funny name that I'm about to tell you. Where is it? to smuggle sigs. Yeah. When I lived in China, I would bring back like 10 cartons of sigs every time I came back and then just sell them for like five bucks a pop. So Interstate 95, the interstate that goes all the way from Maine to Florida is called the new tobacco road because of how much cigarettes are getting smuggled from places with low

tobacco taxes to places with high tobacco taxes in al-Qaeda. and Hezbollah were funding operations by driving from North Carolina to New York in 1999. And then in 2002 as well, that's how they were doing a lot of funding. Turns out one truck of cigarettes could flip for $2 million. So if you're buying fake sigs or counterfeit sigs, then you're supporting terrorists. No, they're real sigs, but if you're buying black market sigs, you could be supporting terrorism. And actually, yeah, this explains that, you know that clip from Goodfellas in the beginning where they're bribing the cops?

Yeah. I never really understood it, but that was a pack of carton of cigarettes they were selling to them. Oh, okay. Yeah, did you guys ever remember that scene in Goodfellas? Never seen it. Okay, I guess that's more of a Northeast thing. No, I've seen it. I just don't remember that part.

Remember the part where he's parking the cars and he's like, and if the cops rolled through. we always knew how to deal with them oh yeah yeah yeah and they're like slipping like the papers to the cops with a whole car that's a good little accent right there ain't really raleata rest in peace yo this is vaguely um uh i can't think of the word this matches up but so upon like reading about this a little bit i found the first actual trap song oh hell yeah It's about, you know, drugs and Dylan and the lifestyle involved. I have not seen a trap song before this one, but this is the first trap song. It's called Every Day will be Sunday when the town goes dry in 1919.

So it was about prohibition. Oh, hell yes. Which is fire. It's like the first, I mean, it's the first trap song. So, but there's, there's trap wrap, but then like what's just the genre of trap is kind of like EDM. like who's mixed with hip hop right that's like it's own that's that's new trap yeah because there is no trap music started trap music started like i mean you can debate but like it really gains its reverence in like the early 2000s this like with Gucci man uh young jizzi

like that i like those kind of cats was kind of the first ones that drugs have always been referenced but this was specifically like trap music they made music especially like Gizi and Gucci Man, they made music about selling and pushing at a really high rate. And they were really doing it. So it was very unique in that sense. And so the new trap shit is like that's kind of trap music or hip hop in general has evolved into all trap drums. Like, you know, those high hats that, like that came from trap.

So like all, so like every, almost every song now pop songs. song has a influence of trap music in it now all, but in this hip hop right now, I think is the number one genre in the world. And shit, I've heard some country songs with trap influence in it, which is really wild. Fettywap was making trap music and it turned out he was really doing it too. I don't even think if he was like trapping at the time he was making the music, but then. No, he was. That's what it was about. It was going, all right, because all I know there was like he had that one year where he was the biggest musical. Yeah, he was on top. The biggest rapper in the world. And then I didn't hear from him for like three, five years until I

heard he got caught running like a giant fentanyl ring. He made enough money that it was actually probably more lucrative for him to just fund the ring than make music. Yeah, but if you just make music, you don't run the risk of being put in prison for the rest of your life. He had like three or four, worldwide hits that he could have just ate off. I mean, vanilla ice is still eating off ice, ice, baby. Feddy Wap had like three of those where it's like everybody new trap queen. It's kick it, bro. We have it. I know, that's the cool thing about music. If you have like one hit song and you're smart about it, you can live off that the rest of your life. If you're, if you're an actor and have one hit movie, you're not necessarily going to be able to live off

that one movie. Yeah. It depends on movie. I got to hear this. I still get residual checks from draft day. And they're like Oh yeah. They're like four dollars, but they come. They're on time every time. But I imagine if I was like Kevin Costner and that wasn't even a big movie. Imagine the, you know, I don't know. And pick a movie Friday or whatever the case or whatever like, you know, pick a white movie. And like

the main actors in that, them residual checks is crazy. I still want to hear this rap, this first trap song. Oh, okay. But yeah. I thought he was hating on. No, I'm not. I'm a hating. Here it is. Every day we'll be Sunday with a town goes dry.

Can we play the song on YouTube? I don't think these guys. These guys come back and sue us. No, no, no, no. Copyrights, those copyright laws go, go, they, uh, they go away after a hundred years. Oh, yeah. We're out there. Yeah, you have to re-up it.

So this is, this is, in 2019, we'd have got a strike. So that means I could. sample this song and like a Donnie don't want to hit his own. No, no, no, I really do. I thought it was, it was like 70 years after the person dies because isn't that the thing with Disney? Like, it's about

to be 70 years since Walt Disney died, so they have to redo all their copyright. I thought it was a hundred years from its inception. Well, they got, they got, they got, not 70, see I've been dead 70 years, but something like that. They got Mickey Mouse Rubio, who's getting paid by

Disney to like make those. laws to like negate the laws under Florida law. He's like part of the... For works created after January 1st, 1978, copyright protection lasts for the life of the author plus an additional 70 years. Okay. If these trappers, these guys probably never had a record deal,

I want to hear the song. Yeah. So 95 years after publication. Okay, we can play this song. I don't know, man. Donnie don't want to hear this. No, I'm walked in right now. I really want to listen to this.

Okay. Be quiet. Let him play it. Okay, Donnie, I'm about to press play, Donnie. So if you got something to say, just get it out right, right quick. We good? My dog. All right.

You positive if you're about to play it? Oh, shit, you can't hear that? You know what it is? It's a discord setting. Hold on. That's what it is. Oh, you couldn't hear it. Oh, no, no, no, you couldn't hear it.

My bad, Don't. Wait, Discord has it so you, it's streaming friendly so you can't play music? No, no, no, no. Discord has a, does a really good job with their, this is like when we switch from Zoom to Discord, like my audio quality super increased. They have this setting on there that is, it like compresses everything. And so like background vocals and noise is you can't hear it. So like, hold on.

Here, send, send it into the group and I'll play it. That's actually really interesting. No, that's why that shit is just top. I'm really interested to see if it's bluesy country. soul like I want to see like because when I think bootleggers I think of like the precursors of NASCAR and probably there's a lot of history there that hasn't been released all right here it is I sent it okay we're pulling it up my bad Donnie I was I was falsely accusing you bro okay yeah

Mr. Prohibition says John Barley Corn must go. He must fly off widdle crow and the other brands we know. Old John has been champion for years beyond the doubt. But now it looks as if they count him out. Fars. To no more than sense and we'll be out of date. Yeah, when Prohibition comes, they get the game.

Goals by 100. So long, Scott, farewell, take on the hay. Oh, my darling, old rapay, they will soon take you away. At the table of those with lollas, they will serve as Coca-Cola. No more saying, let me buy. No more coming through the ride. Old Manhattan and Martini have received a big subpoenae. Every day will be Sunday when the town goes.

I think we got the gist. Damn, he snapped. Yeah. That was, that was rhymy sing-song. Yeah, if someone actually wrapped that verse, it would be better than a lot of rappers out. Manhattan and Martini, you're about to get subpoenaed. Yeah, dude, that's a creative rhyme. T. Payne may have rhymed Mansion in Wisconsin, but this guy.

He wrote Martini and subpoena. Subpoenas. A couple of subpoena. That's crazy that Coca-Cola is still popping. He's like, make us drink Coca-Cola? That may have been back when Coca-Cola had cocaine in it. I still think Babe Ruth makes. It was like, we looked it up last week.

It was like 1905 or something. So it was gone. They definitely still had it in there because they've been importing the cocoa leaf still to this day. So I still think there's something in there. But Prohibition's crazy because so my grandma was talking to me about this because I had a, My grandma came to visit me in college and I had the sign on my wall that said, we want beer with the guys protesting. Oh, yeah.

Love that sign. It's hilarious. But my grandma was then like taking a teaching moment and be like, you know why they did prohibition because all the soldiers came back from World War I and had shell shock PTSD. And all they were doing was drinking. I was like, yes, grandma, like, I know that's a real problem. And she was like, yeah, so those guys were actually like PTSD war vets. I was like, okay, thank you, grandma for educating me on that.

But that's why they did it because all the World War I vets came back and you guys have seen Peky blinders. They're all like being like back in France. Yeah. I'm like chugging whiskey all day. And that was before people really even knew what PTSD was. I mean, they would call it shell shock or whatever,

but no one really understood. Yeah. And World War I was one of the most brutal wars ever. Yeah. There's really no way to measure this, I don't think. But I would love to know how what percentage of the country drank on a regular basis

and how much they were drinking when prohibition was instituted as compared to now because I feel like if you tried to implement prohibition now there would be a war well the drug war currently I mean so pro there's a lot of workarounds and it became very expensive

in a lot of the saloons that still exists today in New York were just for the rich and wealthy. Like Gatsby was supposed to be during Prohibition. So like the super rich would have parties with tons of Canadian liquor and all that sort of stuff. But the thing is a lot of the smugglers, so basically there was a whole network when it came to Prohibition of alcohol distribution, allowing guys like JFK's father, Joe Kennedy, to make a lot of money during Prohibition. Al Capone to distributing, you know, booze throughout the Midwest,

deeper in the country, Chicago, from his connections out east. There was tons of booze runners down south coming from Mexico, the Caribbean. I mean, the American. The run runners would call that because they would just have really fast sailboats and run it from the Caribbean into the U.S. And then the birth of NASCAR, if you, the acronym NASCAR stands for NASCAR. Association of Stock Car Automobile Racing? Sounds right to me. Did I get that one? Yeah, stock car auto racing.

And the thing it developed, the whole racing car, race car type thing developed because you had a bunch of these booze runners, you know, Prohibition bootleggers who were making this corn whiskey up in the mountains because that was the only way they could make it. and then they built super fast cars with lifts so that in the funny thing about lifts is they're hugely utilized by smugglers back in the day because if you could lift your truck and disguise the weights of the vehicle so like a lot of cops when they're looking for cars that are carrying tons of weight they can tell that it's sitting uh the the tires sitting high in the wheel well the whole body the car sitting low and lower to the ground um

And because of that, lifts allowed them to disguise how much booze was in the car and how much weight was in the actually in the car. And then they were making the car super fast outrun the cops because back then they didn't have any of the, you know, police forces we had today where they could coordinate where someone was running off to. So they were going down these back roads, race with booze in the back of these cars just going as fast as they can. And then all these bootleggers like, hey, my car, I souped it up. It's this fast. I bet my car is faster than your car as people do, especially when they're drinking And then that was the burst of stock car racing

The burst in NASCAR Oh shit That's like one of the greatest facts I learned ever That like this came to that And did you learn that just by doing research On drug smuggling or smuggling in junk? I knew that that was one

Like I learned way back when I should have been studying for something Just on Wikipedia Okay But really cool stuff and all those um uh we're now getting to the time of the year where the radiators are clanking in the background sorry if you hear that yeah um so my fiance's parents uh worked in Saudi Arabia for for maybe 20 years and she lived there for the first seven years of her life so that's a place where there still is prohibition there's no booze allowed obviously no drugs

and so her parents used to just like make their own booze in the bathtub something like and then invite all the neighbors over to drink. But the reason I bring that up is because a crazy drug smuggling story I heard from her dad is like the Saudi royal family, those guys all love doing drugs. Like they love doing meth and cocaine and things like that. But obviously you can't just like bring that in on your private jet. So what they do, and this is really fucked up, is they pay like 10 different Pakistanis each 5K, which is just like a drop in the bucket for them

to try to bring in a bunch of meth or coke and they know like seven out of those 10 are probably going to get caught. And when you get caught in Saudi Arabia, you get beheaded. Yeah. But they know three of them are going to get through with their drugs.

Wow. So they're just like playing with these Pakistani drug mules lives and like the people they target for this, like they offer them 5K, that's more money than they have ever seen in their lives. Hopefully they get it before. So at least give it to their families. Yeah.

Hopefully that's the case. And, yeah. So a lot of them get caught, like a lot of the mules that get caught. They're just bringing it in for the royal family. But the royal family just doesn't want it traced back to them. Yeah. And her dad was actually invited to a public beheading once there. Whoa.

And, yeah, he had this one coworker who was like also from the U.S. And he was like, dude, you have to come with me. You have to come with me. and he kept on trying to convince him to come for like five months and eventually he was like all right I'll go I'll go and he went and he said it was like the most horrific thing because like they showed up and they were some of the only people from the U.S. there so they're like oh you guys you guys can sit front row like oh come here the guests of honor they got splattered and no they didn't get splattered but they said it was like a spectator sport there like you know probably

like thousands of people all show up to to watch the public beheadings and they're still doing that today yeah that i mean i mean back in back in the day like public beheadings and like england shit like the the guillotine was your sunday outing yeah yeah that that was in france i feel like i feel like the guillotine would be a a relatively good way not a bad way to die but no one really knows like no one knows if that it's like I'd imagine the anxiety is like horrible but the in terms of actually dying it seems like maybe less a lot of death like in your sleep if you know you're going to die a lot of death row inmates get this moment of peace so if you hit that moment of peace where you're like then it's fine

I mean it's just lights out like that's kind of what I felt about like fighting Jose Canseco I was like I was like super nervous for like two months but then like two weeks before I was like it's happening. Yeah, it's finally going to be over. Yeah, but you weren't going to die. Well, I could have. There was a chance. Now we think, oh, but back then.

You could have killed him. No. Now everyone's like, oh, it's so easy, but I was like scared shitless waking up in the night. Like, it was terrifying. Yeah, I mean, still, I feel like the worst case scenario for you would have been a concussion. Yeah, like, caoed.

Or, you know, could go wrong. Brain bleed. You die. A lot of poxures did die in the ring. I mean, this guy was a chemically enhanced. monster, didn't know that he literally didn't train a second. I think the reason they invented the gillotine was because back when it was just a man with an axe, he could definitely miss or fuck it up.

And a lot of times it would take him like three swings. And so if you're still alive after that first swing, so they're like, let's just invent a cleaner way to do it where there's not like room for error. That conversely, worst way to die. Yeah. The axe guy with the black hood that always comes out, that. That must have been a terrible job. Who would have, I mean.

Yeah, like, how did you, how did you become an executioner? Maybe it was like, my dad was an executioner, so now, like, I have to become one, too. Long line of executioners, they finally say, we're not doing this anymore. Guillotine automates your job. You got a job. You got to find new skill. You know, maybe travel to the new world, have some kids, try to find something else to do somewhere down the line, the genetic component of, killing people than you're Jeffrey Dahmer.

Yeah. Yeah, maybe Jeffrey Dahmer can trace Can we trace some serial killers back to see if they were executioners? Back to smuggling. So during a lot of the 100 years war between France and England, there was a lot of smuggling of wine on boats. They'd use false embargoes, false manifests of what was on the ships. That was the big one.

There wasn't too much inspection. And then that was a lot of how, you know, bribery was usually a big one with prohibition. There was a lot of importation from Canada, a lot of old smuggler, smuggler settlements up in Maine coming from Nova Scotia. A lot of lobstermen, why lobstermen was such a big thing was because a lot of Canadians would come to Maine. and these guys needed a cover for why they're going out on boats they're picking up booze bringing it back to shore

but because lobster wasn't considered that much of a delicacy I know like way back in the day it wasn't but I assume during Prohibition it had like it had already become a popular food there was a law in Maine it was only when the French

started demanding it because they thought it was like huge Longosteen Maine, Maine Lobster prisoners but a lot of those lobster were making so there's off stories that long lobsters were only fit to feed the poor that the prisoners in main penitentiary refused to eat them more than twice a week and they were so plentiful and poorly regarded that farmers use them as fertilizer yeah they would just all be crawling on the beach yeah so but like a lot of these main lobstermen were also moving booze from Canadian because I mean Canadian club

Is that whiskey? Yeah, that type of whiskey. Yeah, they were importing both Canadian whiskey, Irish whiskey, and stuff from Europe through Canada. And then you had all the rums from the Caribbean coming up through the port cities. Louisiana was a huge smuggler town. Yeah. Because those people were just criminals imported from France. And they were just into it.

And that same, the Gulf of Mexico, that whole coast still is involved in smuggler. And we're going to get into a lot of the cartel smuggling, but just getting some precursors of smuggling that happened during Prohibition. But yeah, getting into, did you guys check anything out, have anything about Prohibition Smuggling you want to share? Yeah, I mean, when you just said the topic was drug smuggling, I didn't go as far back to Prohibition. Most of the stuff I was looking up was like the last 20 years.

opio the opium wars in china that was a classic example of the english actually allowed that happened because they couldn't sell opium that much to other countries so they were just smuggling it straight from india to china yeah they were bringing it to china because they wanted to buy like all the tea that china had because they had gotten like all of the uk was hooked on tea at the time but they had nothing to trade for tea because china just didn't want anything that that the UK had. And then the UK was like, well, if we get Chinese people hooked on the opium from India, then we'll always have something to trade for tea and for all the other products they wanted

from China. So, yeah, they got like a lot of China hooked on opium. And finally, the emperor was like, no more. It is now illegal for the British to sell Chinese people opium. And then the British, the British East India company was like, fuck that, we'll just go to war. So they went to war just to force the Chinese to allow them to keep on selling opium. And that attitude still, so a lot of the fentanyl today is produced in China.

Yeah. And there's, from what I've read, there's a sort of attitude about people producing it and sending it to America. That's like, well, they did to us way back when. like why should we like stop producing fentanyl and sending it to the united states so they're getting their revenge like a hundred or a couple hundred years later yeah it was mentioned uh there was a interview done with pharmaceutical companies in china who are just producing tons of fentanyl and they're like don't you understand that you know this is causing deaths in uh american they're like well marijuana is legal in america like they allow certain types of drugs like that's probably why people are

getting hooked on drugs. It was a crazy thing I saw. But I did a lot of random drugs in China. I got very lucky that none of them ended up being fentanyl. Well, I don't think they give any fentany, they distribute any fentanyl in China. Yeah. But they know. They're like, but I remember being at a party in this guy's like, yo, I got some drug from a random Chinese factory. They had some left over. Do you want to try some? And being young, dumb, fresh out of college, I was like, yeah, sure, I'll do it. What was it? It was called... A random fucking drug.

A random powder. It was called M-Cat is what they called it. Or... Did you figure out what it was? Miao Miao. Yeah, Miao was the street slang for it. But, no, I ended up having a pretty good time. What is...

But yes, don't do a random white powder when someone offers it to you. The drug that made a teen cut off his genitals. Whoa, come on. What is Miao Miao? I must have been doing the good Miao Miao Miao. Yeah, you need to get the cut off your junk meow, yeah. No, I did not. That's a Rolling Stone article.

It's a powerful amphetamine. So what is the drug scene in China like? Like, are people scared of the government? Like, are they scared to do drugs and shit? Yeah, I think, like, Chinese people are very afraid to do drugs. And I don't think it's very rampant. When I first moved there, though, like all the foreigners were doing drugs and doing quite a lot of them. but my last two years there, they really started to crack down

and the cops would show up at clubs around 3 a.m. And then close the doors and make all of the foreigners peen a cup to see if they tested positive for weed because they were like looking for excuses to kick foreigners out of the country. And then sometimes they would come to a club and actually like shave a patch of hair off of the heads of all the foreigners and test that for drugs. Because like if you smoke weed,

that will be in your hair for maybe three months. and yeah if you tested positive they'd be like you can go to jail for two weeks or we can just kick you out of the country and so they have really cracked down um i know someone i think who went to jail out there for maybe five months if you ever want to have them on the pod i'd be yeah i personally would be curious what it was like to be in in chinese prison yeah that's not a place i want to be um it's not a place i'd want to be but there are countries that that I feel like being in prison would be worse from like I talked to one person who got caught drinking and driving there and had to go to jail for 10 days. He said it wasn't like he wasn't

getting the shit beat out of him or anything. It was just excruciatingly boring. He's in a cell with 10 guys. You don't have a single thing to read or do. Um, so yeah. Prison is pretty bad here, man. They have some, they have some places with horrible conditions. You ever watch world's toughest prisons. Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah. I've seen that. Like in Guatemala, like a lot of Central America is in that show. It's crazy. Yes. Speaking of prisons in South America, have you guys ever read the book Marching Powder? It was about a British

cocaine smuggler and he would do runs from Bolivia to the U.S. No, Bolivia to the U.K. And he had been doing it for maybe two years, was making a lot of money. and he had just bribed someone who worked at the airport to always turn a blind eye. But then that guy at the airport eventually was like, no, I can actually make more money by turning him in. So he turned against him. And he got caught and put into jail called San Pedro Prison in Bolivia.

And there's like, it's pretty much its own town in the middle of the capital of Bolivia where once you're there, it functions as its own place where you need to get. a job, because you have to pay rent. So if you don't have any money in prison, you're just going to be in like a shitty cell that you share with 10 people. But if you can get a lot of money in jail, then you're staying in like a nice apartment. And so he went to that jail and started selling cocaine because they would actually make cocaine in the jail, ended up making a lot of money in jail and got himself like a nice place. He got a girlfriend.

who like in jail he got a girlfriend this is crazy i'm looking at it right now it just looks like a town yeah it's a town so they it's walled off i assume yeah um but no he got a girlfriend that who was a tourist i think um who just because if you if you go there you can sign up like a tour where they just like walk you into the prison and he met he met a girl on that tour and she just like would like she would come she would come to the country once a month and just live with him in prison um and do a bunch of cocaine. Because once you're in jail, it's like, all right, like, I'm not going to get in trouble for doing Coke. Imagine being so much for a snow bunny, you end up in a fucking Bolivian prison. Dude, it's San Pedro Prison. I highly recommend reading the book. But yeah, so like inside the

prison, they have restaurants. And so you actually have to get a job. And so his job was selling cocaine in prison because they actually use money in there. And it says tourists can stole party in there. That is crazy. How do people not escape? Um, dress up like, well, probably don't want to leave. Yeah, they probably don't want to leave. You don't know if you don't know, you don't know, you don't know you're in a prison. How to survive. I mean, that's deep, bro. That would be a cool Yeah, the world's weirdest jail. So there it's like if you're in prison and you have a lot of money, it sounds like you can live a pretty nice life in this prison.

Getting to more smuggling topics. So I was on the border patrol website and looking at now getting to the U.S. war on drugs. most of the drugs that come to the United States are through land which is really interesting so most of the drugs come through land a lot of

a lot of designer drugs come from Canada whereas more cocaine and marijuana come from Mexico and what is a designer drug just like LSD like ketamine probably like

Ecstasy pills. Ecstasy pills. Like genetically. Like chemistry. Chemical. Yeah, like drugs made in a lab, I guess. Although most drugs are made in labs. It's a lot of go through from China to Asian gangs in Canada, then into the United States.

But you know what I found out that was really scary, that only 5% of all the cargo on those cargo. those cargo carriers, the tankers, only 5% of any of those big shipping crates, those big steel shipping crates ever get investigated, ever get scanned and looked through. And that's, yeah, that's probably how most of the drugs are just hidden in those things. Yeah. So when they know, so a lot of the stuff from China, it turns out the biggest smugglers are actually not criminal enterprises, people smuggling. drugs, but in reality, the most commonly smuggled items are everyday items one believes to be

common and thus causes higher losses and tax revenue. An anonymous shipping agents said that smuggling became second nature to businessman, taking finished products and misrepresenting them to offer the cheapest possible rate. So what the majority of people do not realize is that the media and popular culture focuses on criminal organization as primary smugglers, but in reality, legitimate businesses are the biggest offenders. So businesses are just smugglers. So businesses are just smuggling stuff like all the stuff from amazon like oh how much how many air pods are in this shipping container oh a thousand but there's really five thousand like that's the biggest smuggling being done i know it's not drugs but yeah i the whole that whole shipping uh the whole like

those shipping docs shipping containers shipping tankers like there's a lot of those tankers and this is what people don't realize and i was reading on this i know we're supposed to focus on drug smuggling but on any of those tankers when you see them coming in and out of harbors there's a good chance there is a shipping crate in there filled with people who are either being trafficked or smuggled and i looked up there's a difference there's people smuggling and there's human trafficking is different than people smuggling what's the difference people smuggling is people like historically the underground railroad was people smuggling getting getting Jews out of Nazi-controlled areas in Europe.

Right. People smuggling. So is that a, that's not always a bad thing. Right, right. It's not always a bad thing, but, you know. But human trafficking is always bad. Human trafficking is always bad. Right.

So there's then a debate on, especially on the southern border, whether there's a lot of people who are trying to get asylum and find new life. And there's immigration and migration. and but the thing is a lot of those people then become trafficked. So they go from getting smuggled to getting, and they trust the wrong people and then they get trafficked. Right. If you're like a young girl. Right.

And so those people think they're just going to be smuggled across the border, but then they're actually, they're smuggled and then trafficked once they're here. But the craziest thing is there's tons of, there's like on those big crates when only 5% get inspected. Yeah. They miss a lot of them. a lot and they miss a lot of people and there's stories of people trying to inspect the crates like putting them through x-rays and you can look up a shipping containers x-ray and they see people in

them and sometimes the high seas lack of water lack of de-hite lack of food they're just opening up these shipping containers and there's just a whole bunch of dead people in them that's so sad yeah like that actually happened uh there was a 12 there was like an 18 wheeler found in Mexico that was just fit with people died at dehydration and heat exhaustion yeah because you know it's crazy my buddy my buddy used his car he put his car up on some app to where it's like you could rent it out and uh i forget what the app was called and so he rented it out he left town for the weekend he rented it out came back this is in houston came back and the dude had he had no contact with him he was like did this fucking

my car. And so he got a letter from the department of, what was it? I think it was the border patrol saying that his car had been confiscated. I guess the dude that rented his car drove down to Mexico and picked up people and was bringing them back to the U.S. and they caught him in customs. And so they confiscated his car. So he had to go through this whole like legal process to get his car back. Shit is crazy. Yeah. So when we were talking about those, uh, Most of the drugs come in through land. So a lot of what the cartel does is to transport drugs, traffickers primarily use commercial trucks and privately owned and rental vehicles

equipped with hidden compartments and natural voids in the vehicles. So they're renting a lot of cars to do these runs because they don't pick up like they have American license plates. They don't have Mexican plates. They're a little more inconspicuous. And that's not some of the create in a lot of these vehicles are hollowed out to smuggle the drugs like wheel wells um gas a lot of people do gas tanks and the homeland security you know when they scan these cars and they see that the gas tank something's obstructed in it they know that they have to open up the gas tank the only way to get in is with a blowtorch

but if you have gas in the gas tank you try to open up with a blow torch it just blows up in your face so it's very hard to actually search those vehicles it's crazy they've tried just about everything in terms of smuggling. They've done it in food. There's probably nothing that they haven't tried. So here's some of the crazier ones. El Chapo is famous for smuggling drugs in through food. That's what his big claim to fame. So like when you saw those, those pictures of the fake carrots that were just wrapped up cocaine or the avocados that were weed. The carrots, though, so those weren't like actual carrots? Wasn't it just like orange tape that they? Yeah. Yeah, but Gordes and watermelons, they actually hollow out.

Coconuts. Coconuts, they do all sorts of stuff. But he actually, so El Chapo opened a cannery in Guadalajara and began producing thousands of cans of stamped comadre halapenos, stuffing them with cocaine. And he was vacuum sealing them and shipping them to Mexican-owned grocery stores in California. So he was shipping Mexican, like Mexican-branded stuff to mixing groceries and just there was tons of drugs in them and he was using official canneries

and food processing plants that he owns to ship them and that's like crazy now would the cans only have cocaine in them or would they be like a mix of jalapinos with a bag of cocaine I think there's like bags of cocaine's in the jalapinos all right but that's not even the craziest ways so so there was a tamales a lot this one man was carrying in the george bush airport was carrying nine bags holding seven ounces of cocaine hidden inside tamales were in a box of 200 tamales the traveler was bringing through um there's three pounds of meth hidden them hollowed out tortilla. So this was a really cool one.

So guys were using catapults to catapult drugs in here. I have a I have a video for you guys that hopefully you can put me on YouTube. While you look it up, this was lit. A Nigerian man flying from Brazil to the city of Lagos in his home

country was stopped upon around for bringing roasted chickens on the plane. The problem wasn't the birds in question, but rather their stuffing, which turned out to be 150. $50,000 worth of cocaine stuff. Chickens, brough. Yeah.

Yeah, I feel like bringing that many roasted chickens on a plane is going to arise suspicion. Right. Yeah. So the cartel

use a lot of fish. They wrap their cocaine fish because they complain to the inspectors like, hey, this is fresh fish. Like,

don't hold us up. We're just trying to move fish. It's going to go bad if you keep us here too long. And that's a another one of their, their methods. But the thing is, there's so much money in this that it doesn't matter. The cartel is so much. So they actually had European engineers that they hired to

construct super tunnels under the border with electric lights, motorized carts, ventilation systems that crisscross the U.S. border like veins. They had escape routes and they tunneled directly two big warehouses on the other side of the border in Arizona, straight from drug dealer places. And the Border Patrol has to find these and fill them with concrete, but a lot of them are undetectable because they're so well built because they're hiring like actual engineers from all sorts of places and paying them millions of dollars to construct these because they're making billions on what they can get through there. Yeah.

That sounds like the easiest way if you just have a tunnel. Yeah, like they're getting qualified engineers. Like if you're an engineer and, you know, someone shows up with an absolute bag. Yeah, because they're not going to arrest the engineer, right? They'll probably, if anyone gets in trouble, it will be the cartel or the people who are inside the tunnels. I mean, a lot of drug smugglers bought whole islands to fly planes into the U.S. with. Yep. And some of them even flew 747s.

That's where Firefest was going to be. It was supposed to be on one of the islands that Pablo Escobar's cartel used to use. These guys even have submarines. And I know this video circulated a lot a couple years ago. But these guys have million-dollar submarines they're using to transport cocaine and other narcotics. And there's this awesome video of the U.S. Coast Guard storming a narco submarine. And this was actually in the Pacific Ocean. I think it was going up the

up the Baja Peninsula. Check this out. It is insane. It's a adrenaline-inducing movie. Some of these tunnels are insane. Some of them stretched over 4,000 feet. They found one that was the passageway connected an industrial site in Mexican city of Tijuana to San Diego area of California. That's insane. Big T, what do you think? should do the drug smugglers i mean right to jail right away right to jail right away what if it's

just marijuana jail the guest on this interview is not going to like that not very libertarian of you but uh there is a difference between like smoking weed at your house and bringing in hundreds of thousands of pounds of it granted you can't have one without the other but that's what I'm saying like what do you mean I don't know I don't I don't have a solution to that I think it would be better if we didn't have people bringing drugs into this country the crazy thing is in a lot of the legalized states there is still a shit take why because it doesn't go with your worldview why not you're a libertarian correct

Kind of. A libertarian, but you believe in strong borders? Currently as like, if you told, I, there's going to be weed in this country no matter what. So like, if you're like, people want to smoke weed at their house, whatever, I don't really give a shit. But like, if you're like, can we have drugs being brought into this country or not, I would choose not. Yeah.

shit take yeah I think that's a shit take but I mean yeah I almost feel like if they made a lot of these drugs just legal it would it would solve more problems than it would create I don't 100% but it would

eliminate the majority of the criminality of it the economy and you wouldn't have people overdosing on fentanyl because you could actually if you really wanted to do cocaine you could get it from a source where you at least know what you're getting think about how expensive that so actually the economist came out with an article saying that

Biden should legalize cocaine to win the election to number one destabilize and stop funding the cartel to make cocaine better cleaner more accessible safer I mean more accessible I'm not too sure but I wrote a wrote a blog on that that easily that Nate dog and you guys can go harass him didn't post because He didn't like, he thought I was saying that we should legalize cocaine, oh, Barstool, but it was literally the economist writing about legalizing cocaine. I think we should legalize cocaine. Wait, I talk to Nate about that. He said he wasn't going to let you sell a shirt that said legalized cocaine cocaine, but he didn't post the blog.

He didn't post the blog. Okay, he told me that he just wasn't going to let you sell the shirt, which I guess that's fair. Yeah, yeah, I got that. I got that legalized. Did you submit a legalized cocaine shirt? Yeah. I got a sick legalized cocaine shirt that said that. was like the the i was making fun of the economist and it was legalized cocaine and what

percentage of the people who see that shirt do you think knew that and how many people over under five you know what i'm we all try to create merch we all try to see it cells who's going viral and i was posting it back when it was live i was posting it under all of the the comments because they were all going viral and there are people i you know you know okay like do whatever you want cocaine's very risky um But there's a lot of people who wear legalized cocaine shirts. Like, have you ever been to a frat party? No.

I haven't been in a while, but when I was in college, there weren't a lot of legalized cocaine shirts. They're, like, they're funny shirts. I was at a frat party or two in my day, and I never saw, like, a legalized cocaine charges just saw, I mean, people just did the cocaine. Yeah. Yeah, I don't think.

It was just. It was their shirt. Yeah, there was really no shirt. It was just kind of like, I'm just going to do it. It's a shirt that you see a line. I don't do cocaine. I don't do cocaine.

I feel like wearing that shirt is just attracting unwanted attention. Yeah. Like if you get pulled over and you're wearing a legalized cocaine shirt. There's a time and the place. Yeah. 18 to 22 year old boys. I do think you should be able to post that blog, though. Yeah, the blog never got posted.

I understand the t-shirt. The t-shirt, yeah. The blog. Okay. Because we got in trouble like we got in trouble for having. in Adderall Diet shirt on sale that was in the barstool store a while ago and people are like, why are you guys advertising that?

I totally understand that, totally understand that, but the blog never went up. It was going super viral, like amongst a bunch of places. If the blog had gotten posted, we got tons of views. So some are saying that Nate is robbing the company of money. But nevertheless, I begulge. Yeah. I digress.

So, yeah, other thways, summaries. So this one's big in. prisons nowadays is drones. Drones are dropping off and with the cartel. There's tons of drones dropping off because they used to use animals because it was a non communicable pigeons.

And prisons still use cats. Cats are a good smuggle because they move very stealthily. But I feel like pigeons are better because you can train a pigeon to fly to like a certain place. A cat if you tie some drugs to it,

you have no idea if the cat's going make it to its final destination uh well i think how they do is they put two feeding stations one during the day one at night the prisoners feed it at night and then someone goes out and feeds it during the day oh okay and then it knows to go to those two places all right at some point and then it's got a little drugs we haven't even got into human human uh mules yeah because that's some of the crazy shit um did you guys see that movie when it came out mule with clean east one no i didn't that movie is hilarious Um, it's a comedy? No.

Okay. It's, it's, if you don't know what it is, it's, um, a, a Clint Eastwood movie came out like three years ago about Clint Eastwood at his ripe age of like 99 years old being a drug mule for the Mexican cartel. And in it, it's a old John Malaney joke, but he has two threesomes as like a 90 year old. And the whole thing is like Clint Eastwood just makes movies. So it's like old guy self can. And they show the threysms. But it's about him like smuggling. I think it's coke.

um he's two three he's two three not one i don't think i'd even want to have a threesome at that age yeah but it's that's him and like andy garcia and Andy Garcia is his boss in the cartel and it's about Clint East would be yeah yeah no way to go out yeah that it's like isn't like matthew didn't Matthew McConaughey's dad go out and having sex yes isn't that a thing yeah with his mother happens a lot because a lot of the motherfuckers be taking that uh uh Seattle and Viagra shit and... That stuff can probably kill you when you're 90. Yep.

But Clint Eastwood had a whole movie about being a human drug mule. I'm sure there's actually Viagra smugglers out there. Oh, so Viagra is the top, uh, passed off pill to try to sell different types of drugs. Oh, really? In Bulgaria, they stopped a shipment of, uh, I think it was fentanyl or another designer drug that was stamped to learn. exactly with Pfizer on it to look exactly like Viagra. All right.

Yeah. Because I assume if you get caught trying to smuggle Vaguer, the penalties aren't as high if you're trying to smuggle like fentanyl. Yeah. I was seeing that there's a lot of like shipping containers just filled with pieces of wood, two by fours and stuff. And then those woods will just be completely hollowed out and filled with cocaine. Basically any type of stuff.

Like another one was liquid cocaine in baby formula. which actually, I think, killed a child at one point. Yeah, because one of them didn't get sold to the Coke dealer and ended up killing. And then another one is sometimes the cocaine can be mixed with a type of, not concrete, but some sort of like porcelain. And then you can, a lot of tiles. I thought you don't have to go back into a ad, dog. A lot of cocaine can be mixed with. But yeah, it's crazy.

I mean, false bottoms, you name it. Like, they're getting it in any way anyhow. The most famous false bottom of all time was Jurassic Park with the shaving cream. We had all the DNA. Oh, yeah. That was the most famous false bottom of all time, though. I really wanted one of those. Yeah, me too as a kid.

But there was this one. In college, there used to be cats who, because the liquor store closed on Sunday. and so cash would like buy a whole bunch of liquor and then on Sundays they'd be like okay we're selling this because you're going to party on Sunday anyway so like people used to go to their house and buy a whole bunch of liquor and they used to double the price

but you mean there was no other liquor around so like it was a good little hustle that's a great hustle um chick flay doing that with chick flay also doing what nobody wants cold nobody one cold chicken sandwich

cat um Dale ass fry So getting to human mules, and this gets a little graphic, but, oh, actually really quick, wildlife smuggling developed in coat in right hand in hand with narcotic smuggling because a lot of people were smuggling super endangered animals, expensive snakes, Komodo dragons, turtles, Florida's exotic scene was hand in hand with the wildlife scene because a lot of these drug dealers would also. buy tigers and buy iguanas and you know they wanted expensive things because they had so much money and they just wanted to show it off in some way um but what a lot of wildlife smugglers would do is they would sow drugs into different snakes tortoises um not the expensive ones but then when they got caught it would be like oh sorry you know i have all this wildlife strapped to me uh these cockatoos

these parrots like you can take them uh and then you get a small fine not a serious sentence but then you don't get caught for drug smuggling and they just assume that there's nothing in the animals and if they end up dying like one guy had 226 snakes filled with cocaine in a truck and basically the snakes got uh what usually would happen is the animals would get um the animals would get detained, not detained, what's seized, the animals will get seized, detained. You can't handcuff a snake. Got rid their Miranda rights.

How'd you handcuff a snake? You'd have to tie it like a knot, maybe. And then what would happen is they'd all just die and then they just throw them out. But one of these instances and guys were just keeping smuggling and like not expensive snakes, now they're just smuggling boa constrictors

that were just big, not expensive that you can even get in the U.S. and just filling them with cocaine. Where do you get a boa constrictor that's, like, where do you acquire one? Multiple places. Can you enlighten? I hate snakes. There's a lot of snakes.

You want a snake, Maddie? No, I'm, but it's, I'm curious as to like, where you just, Billy's acting like, again, you can just go to a pet smart and get a boa constrictor. Well, if, so Florida, this wildlife trade. Okay, Florida doesn't count. No, but this wildlife trade led to these giant snakes, which are, which a lot of times we're being used to smuggle cocaine to then get released into the wild. And there's a huge problem the Everglades with these gigantic snakes because people are either

keeping them as pets, they're getting smuggled in. And a lot of because bow constrictors can swallow big things. They were just putting these big baggies of cocaine into their mouths that they'd swallow a whole like an egg. They would be wrapped enough that their bodily, their acids and their stomach couldn't get through what they wrapped it with and then they just poop out gigantic bales of cocaine you know it's crazy i had a um i knew somebody on high school who uh who used to sell and he got pulled over by the police and it was i think it was like an eight ball that's the story we got around um but it was a lot of cocaine and he swallowed it got pulled over and it was just in a baggie and it it dissolved acid dissolved in the stomach and he OD

off, they say, die crazy. That's what happens to a lot of drug mules. So there's various ways that people can smuggle drugs, usually either going into the top of your digestive system or trying to sneak it in the back of your digestive system. Oh, yeah. That's in prison. Yeah, that's so a lot of the drugs that get into prison end up

getting you're getting booty tobacco because that's tobacco is one that smuggle what they call it booty tobacco but yeah that's crazy tobacco is the name of it I think it's booty tobacco

I don't even know but in one instance mules who either are swallowing wrapped up drugs that they then regurgitate or come out the other side depending on how soon it happens don't you put them in like a condom

so you can, like, get them out. Yeah, and so it doesn't burst and kill you. Yeah, because condoms, very durable. Very durable, yeah. Yeah. Now it's going to our condom sponsor. So if you're looking to smuggle drugs. Use Trojan.

Whether you're smuggling drugs or just in love. Well, on Nana, we talked about making her own condoms. Oh, yeah, we did. You did? Super tight condom. That would be dull. Yeah, for... So you can swim in the Amazon River.

Okay. We're marking extra small condom specifically for when you're swimming the Amazon River so the fish don't swim up. Not for any other reason. Yeah, yeah, because there's that fish there that swims up your penis hole. But there's a lot of other things in those waters that can kill you too. So maybe just don't swim in the Amazon. But this is the craziest mule story.

A lot of drug mules are giving implants. that are filled with cocaine. Breast implants? Yep. No. Yep. Do you want to see a picture? Male guys?

Female, females are being smuggled with implants. No way. So like, I don't know. Like, if you had someone with really bad implants, like, and you saw them on a plane, you'd be like, that's cocaine in there. A lumpy boop, that's cocaine. But you're also not allowed to just go up,

grab a woman's tits to like that would be very invasive so they better have cocaine in those boobs if you're going to feel her up or else she's going to sue you not to monopolize the boob on this podcast but as the only but as the only owner um if you I feel like if you can tell a lot of the times you can tell when someone has a boob job but if a if you see a lumpy boob like that would I don't know what it would even look like to have a cocaine-filled boob. Like, I wouldn't even, I can't even understand how painful that would be. Yeah. I can understand because the women still shame that.

Boob jobs? Absolutely not. Yeah. Yeah, I thought it's more of more accepting because it used to be like, oh, bimbo, but now it's like, it is what it is. They look good. Now, now it's like, if you want to do something to make yourself feel better, I mean, that's the same thing with, like, any plastic surgery now, like, lip fillers or bow. toxic. If you want to do it to make yourself feel better, like, be my guess. I'm thinking about

I'm against BBL's though. I'm against BBL's though. I'm against BBLs. I'm thinking about certain plastic. The big lips? No, the Brazilian butt left. Oh, why? I haven't seen one that looks good, bro. Like, I haven't seen one. And this is just one man's opinion. Ladies, if you want to do that shit, by all means, put that shit in your ass. That's what's up. But me, it's just me. I'm not even that attractive as a human being. I will preface it with that. But I ain't seen anyone that look good. They all look weird.

They look very unnatural. And the thighs never match the cakes. I think that's kind of part of the look, though. It just makes it look bigger. So I met somebody who had to maintain this operation and tons of saline injections are required. For a BBL. To keep, to fill in the gaps. The gaps.

like routinely so it doesn't you know cellulitey because if you don't do that it will start to get like lumpy yeah you want to keep the balloon pumped yeah yeah because it'll it'll it's it's not like a silicone implant so you're not it's not going to have that smooth look unless you maintain it real fat okay never really sitting on anything that's weird but then isn't there such thing as just like an in actual ass implant too you can get an actual ass implant but it's the same thing as a boob job where it's like you're putting a large silicone implant in your ass whereas a BBL they take fat from another part of your body and implant it in so it's almost like doubled up we should do an episode of plastic surgery I would actually really interested in it I've been horrified just because

there was the story of a lady who got an ass implant in Brazil and the guy injected her ass with like liquid cement yeah you can do anything there's no rules let's the whole thing it's like you it's not like a lot of times you kind of go to a sketchy surgeon and yeah unless you're going to like dr miami bruh there was a story about this girl in viral uh recently you just jump i got a b bL or thought so anyway she went under and she woke up and her fucking kidney was missing oh god dog just one kidney for the rest of her life because she wanted to be a little more sexy that shit's like if you're going to get a bbL don't go to cheap route dog no go to Miami.

Get what you pay for. Get a certified doctor that has reviews and an office and other clients that can attest to his work. Don't go to Mexico. Don't go to Brazil. Don't go to. That shit is not worth it. Airplanes, mattresses, and plastic surgery.

Spend the money. Belts. Belts as well. That's a good one. Really? I have a really cheap belt on right now, but like it gets the job done. So I'm not like super picky about them. if you've ever had like a really good belt you'll know the difference all right i'm not i'm not

shaming cheap belts i'm not shaming most cheap things i'm just saying in a lot of instances you get what you pay for designer belts is one and bbls is definitely are you talking about like quality material leather sturdy yeah okay i like that i actually it it doesn't necessarily have to be designer but a lot of high end uh brands have really good belts like i have belt that i have had for i think 15 years now and it's still like I don't wear pants like that but they'd be cracking in the trousers no plastic surgery though has a very

different light on it now like I I have I'm heavily considering a certain plastic surgery well you know which one you don't have to talk about it I think people would get mad on here certain people certain groups on the internet would get mad if I talked about what I'll tell you guys later about what surgery I would be interested in

I mean the thing is a lot of people aren't comfortable in themselves and it's because of what's going on with their mental health and speak on it billy mental health is really important and that's what i'm talking about that was that was what i'm talking about right yes that is why we should get a word from our sponsor better help it could be tough to train your brain to stay in problem solving mode when faced with a challenge in life but when you learn how to find your own solution there's no better feeling a therapist can help you become a better problem solver making it easier to accomplish your goals no matter how big or small so uh therapy is important a lot of people go through things that they can't really deal with uh i know

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so it might feel a little rushed and then afterwards we realized maybe he could have stayed, I don't know, it was a little confusing at the end but it was a great interview and we hope to have him back when PFT is here so we can continue the conversation.

Yeah, but now we'll get to our interview and have fun. Well, welcome to macrodosing. We're welcoming on Randy Lanier, a guy with an amazing story, weed, speed, and all sorts of stuff. So thank you for having, thank you for coming on, Randy. Thank you.

A lot of weed and a lot of speed. But he wasn't selling speed. You're only selling weed. No, I was driving speed. Yeah, yeah. Yes, that's how it goes. So now when you were in the midst of your drug smuggling days, was marijuana the only drug that you were dealing with?

Yes, I'm a, I'm a smuggler of weed. And that is like, yeah, it's almost not even considered a drug anymore. So, yeah, I did bring in one load of some Coke, but that was the worst mistake I've done and not a Coke dealer. What was the difference in, you know, the whole, because everyone's heard about the Miami Coke smuggling scene and how that was like, you know, scarface type stuff.

Was the wheat smuggling business like, chiller to? The wheat smuggling business is, A hundredfold chilling. Like I told you, I tried to do a load of Coke one time, and I gave it all back. I didn't want to deal with the people. Didn't want to deal with the whole attitude. So I stuck with the weed. Wow.

So for those who don't know your story and for some of the listeners, how would you describe your journey to this point in this moment, what you've been through, just so everyone can sort of get a little bit of taste of what the book entails. and everything. So it started back when I was a youngster. I've been burning weed for 53 years. Selling weed for just as much until the penitentiary caught up with me in the U.S. government. So started smuggling weed when I was 19,

running loads in from the Bahamas. And gradually just expanded. Things evolved in any entrepreneur. You figure out ways to make things better and grow your business, and that's kind of what I was, path that I was on. So your first love, though, was racing, right? And cars. Well, I was a late bloomer in racing.

Okay. I was a smuggler before I was racing. Okay. But from smuggling, and I took up the hobby of racing, I figured out I can kind of finance my racing career through my smuggling. All right. So being a professional race car driver and a drug smuggler, what does a day look like in terms of time-wise? Because I would think being a race car driver requires quite a bit of your time, but you also have this other thing that you're doing there that would also seemingly require just as much.

So first I was a hobbyist at racing. I joined a sports car club, SCCA, Sports Car Club of America. So it was a hobby on the weekends, and I was distributing and importing loads from other smugglers. And then as my ambition started to grow in racing, I got a ride with a Ferrari team in Europe, went to Europe, came back, started getting other rides with pro teams, and I had some mishaps with some teams that didn't have the financial ability to keep the parts they needed. We did a DNF. I did not finish it to Miami Grand Prix.

And I didn't rent at all this Everglades hotel suites and lots of people and family invited to catered events I got going on and the car broke down so I didn't get to run it. I'm sitting in the pits and it's my hometown with all my friends and guests and family. So I said, you know what? It's time for me to figure out my own team. So I kind of put my own team together. And so a day would look like as far as the smuggling and the racing, If I'm not at a racetrack, at the race shop, I'm at a boat yard somewhere. Yeah.

It was busy. So you'd be personally on the boat and take it to the Bahamas? No, I had, when I was young, when I started doing it, yeah, I ran the loads in myself. Wow. So was it just you on the boat or would you usually have a couple friends? No, myself and one or two other people. Yeah. And then you would leave from Florida.

Florida, go down to the Bahamas? Fort Lauderdale, Miami, and shoot over to the Bahamas and meet a mothership, put it on my vessel, and come on back. How easy was it back then compared to now? Like doing that. You were 19 years old. I saw you bought an 18K boat and was using it to run to and from the Bahamas. Right.

And, you know, what was the main difference you say between now and then be it in mainland security? Yeah. Oh, yeah. The police. So back then, they didn't have all the global positioning. They had something called SATNAV where you could come, the SATs would come around and you could get a positioning on your radar and kind of figure out things where you are and where you have to go and who you have to meet. But as far as it being easy, it's never easy because a lot of times things happen.

You have to improvise whether boats break down. Are you worried about a police agency such as Bahamian police or the DEA, the FBI, the Marine Patrol that patrols the water? So it's never easy. But versus then back now, back then it was a whole lot easier than it would be now. What do you think about the weed back then compared to the weed now? Because we have a bunch of conversations on this show about how we need to bring back mid. because the weed is just way too strong nowadays. Yeah, so I like good weed.

I love organically sungrown weed that's really fire. And the indoor hybrid weed right now that they're trying to put diamonds and crumbles and different extracts into it. I'm not a fan of. I like the, I like flour. Yeah. I just like straight, good flour. Not a fan of the gummies.

No, I don't eat gummies Okay, yeah That's probably smart I tell you, I'm in L.A. I'm getting ready to get on an airplane With my son First time my son My son was seven days old

When I went to prison I come out And he's a gym guy 27 years old And all about the gym And so first time Himai travel We've been out in L.A. for a few days

And I'm at the airport And we both get a bag of gummies 150 milligrams each Well he's eating his gummies, and I see he eat the whole bag. Oh, my God. Well, he's got a tolerance. So I said, well, shit, you eat that whole bag.

He's, oh, Pop, Dad, don't eat the bag. I ate about half of it. Worst thing I ever done. Look, I didn't think I could get on the friggin' plane. I'm sitting there waiting. They call my flight, and I told my son, son, I don't think I can get on this plane. I'm sweating. Sweats rolling off of me.

Yeah, no. I know people who have had to go to the hospital. I quit eating gummies. That's crazy that we've gotten to the point where someone who was so involved in the early stages of the marijuana business. And talking about legal marijuana now, what you were doing back then did lay a groundwork in some way for weed culture. It's amazing. The supply and demand, as I was bringing it in, I was bringing in loads, my own loads. I started with the 68, I've started with 27 foot bringing in loads of other smugglers.

and getting involved with a lot of other smugglers and personalities is strange. Yeah. And I had something happen while I lost the load. And it didn't go over well with the smuggler that I got the load from or his boat captain. Yeah. And after that at fiasco, I decided, you know what, I'm picking up a boat and doing it myself. So I bought a 68-footer and started doing it myself. And that was much easier, much more chill because,

It was myself and all my friends. Yeah. And we didn't carry weapons or anything. We're just a lot of potheads that found a way to make funds to get us on our way to what we wanted to accomplish. I was reading that the first big shipment that you did on your own and that barge that you bought, that came in through New York, right? Was that at the Brooklyn Navy Yard? I brought in 110,000 pounds. I brought a couple loads here in New York City.

Yeah. And I brought in a 110,000 pound on a 300-foot barge with a 150-foot tugboat, and I brought it first up to Bridgeport, Connecticut. Yeah. I had already brought a 35,000 pound load on my tugboat, on 150-foot tugboat, about several months before that. So now I got the barge and the tugboat. But it ended up that I was being watched by a police department.

I don't know which one is just, I had people driving. around the neighborhood with these barricade scanners and at a certain time I had them go into the yard that I had rented across from the Sikorsky Helicopter factory in Bridgeport. I know that plays well. And as soon as they go open the gates and go in, they said suspect entering compound. So they called their bosses and their boss called me and I said, well, all right, thanks for the information. So I had to move the vessel and I brought it to a boat yard here.

in New Jersey, pulled it out of the water for a month with a 110,000 pounds. It sat there until I found a spot, which was the abandoned Brooklyn Naval Yards. The year was 1983. Yeah. Now that whole area has been redeveloped and it's actually pretty nice, but back then it was just, it was pretty abandoned. Well, right now it was pretty abandoned in a perfect spot for a smuggler. Quick question.

That's a lot of weight you were moving. And did you have to have any sort of paperwork? like what did you say you were moving if you even had to so we did it through we'd bring the after i'd load the barge and let's say i would tug it to i have the crew tug it to venezuela and put cement pre-backs venezuela and cement then we would tug the boat pull the boat to santa domingo there i would have a charter company bring in a whole fresh crew captain and crew to bring in the the material that that we had, whether it was Brazilian wood,

bazillion nuts, Venezuelan cement. So I have a manifest and I'd have a whole brand new crew that wasn't part of my operation. They did not know weed was on board that vessel. Oh, okay. So they would bring that boat in and clear customs. All right, probably for the best. Well, they wouldn't be nervous.

Yeah. See, they come on and take your passports. Yeah. And they say, you cannot come ashore. Yeah. So if you know you got 110,000 pounds or 150,000 pounds, you're gonna probably be nervous. You're very nervous.

They pick up on that. Yeah. So we used a crew that didn't know, there was a legit crew. Yeah. So when you were swapping out, so would you actually put bags of concrete, then swap it out at some point? No, we buy concrete and wholesale it out to every lumber company we could sell it to. So you were making money just off the cover for the weed as well, or was it a sunk cost? I gave that to my partner.

I just look, you get rid of the cement. and the Brazilian wood And that's yours Would you have to put the weed in Like the bag cement Or? No, I put the 300 foot barge Seven stories high

We took halfway down We welded three quarter inch steel And made a false bottom And we put salt water See, to build the balance On the barges all the way down So when they are riding through the ocean If they don't have a load

They pump salt water To create balance if they have a load a million pounds or something they'll pump water out so we took the ballast and well the three quarter inch steel made a hidden compartment when i got to columbia i cut it open with uh we we we cut it open with torches and um loaded the weed inside the ballast underneath all the salt water so when i came in customs if they wanted to check the ballast they pump out some salt water go yeah it's salt water yeah having no idea that all the weeds have no idea that down below there's 170 000 pounds of weed how are you laundering the money because you were dealing with

so much cash it was it all cash you could just get away all cash look cash man cash is king yeah so have you watch shows like like like breaking bad and ozark and stuff like that and how i watched that in penitentiary on layover coming back from a hip operation and they had put me into Oklahoma. They have a big center at the Oklahoma airport, and that's a transfer center. And I got stuck there for about a week. So first time they let me in population, because I was maximum security, what they call a two-hour watch, high accountability. I was excaparist. So for 18 years, I had to wear it around my neck, but I just stuck in my pocket, a big orange card with my face and my number on it. Every two hours, I had to go find a hack, an officer, and say, hey, can you

call me into control unit he looked at me and he says hey this officer's so shit here i've got a i got a visual on leneer he's here in the law library of the rec room wow and every two hours in the weekdays every one hour on the weekends every one hour on the holidays and every one hour after four p.m i had to report to an officer for 18 years so reading in your book we saw that the place they put you you were put with the likes of john goddy and my correct and saying that, and also some Al-Qaeda operatives in the 90s? Yeah, when I first went in, I was in a medium security for about a year, and then I picked up an escape investigation, and then that got me sent to maximum

securities. Were you actually planning your escape? Look, when I went in, I was 33 years old, $100 million in my pocket. accounts from Switzerland to Zurich to Geneva to Lichtenstein, the Luxembourg. So I was kind of full of myself, and I figured if the courts couldn't get me out, I'd get myself out. So yeah, yeah, I was plotting and planning. Because you had a friend who escaped from jail using a helicopter, or at least he tried. It failed, right?

I had a co-defendant that tried to escape from a helicopter, but I had a friend that escaped from a medium security in Talladega, Alabama, to a false. wall of a vegetable truck oh wow yeah did they ever catch him again or do yeah they called him several years later um he was smuggling oh again he went back to it he went back to it yeah it's probably hard to find a legit job once you escape from prison no yeah i was saying so yeah so i mean uh for those you don't know you were sentenced to life without parole with two concurrent or non-concurring sentences I was sentenced to my first count. I was sentenced to natural death, life without parole.

Count two, I was sentenced to 40 years for conspiracy to distribute marijuana. The problem what we got here is that it's a flower. My first count was I was charged with running a criminal enterprise that imported and distributed a scheduled one narcotic. That's it. Yeah. My second charge conspiracy to distribute over a thousand pounds of a scheduled one narcotic, marijuana. Yeah. I got life in 40 years.

And marijuana has never killed anyone. It's ridiculous. It's literally impossible to overdose on marijuana. And that's where they get, like, you got Biden that just recently, everybody's read that he's going to pardon all the simple possession cases. Yes. There's not a single simple possession case. case in federal custody at all. That's smoke and mirrors. Now, the states have some simple possession cases, the states, but he cannot pardon those people. That's why you see him in

his speech, he urged the states to file a suit. There's not one prisoner that's coming out of tens of thousands, marijuana prisoners that's coming out of prison due to what he said about two weeks ago. Oh, wow. Because those prisoners are there for trafficking? They're in there for simple word possession with the intent to distribute possession with intent to traffic possession with intent to sale

whatever it is but it's an intent you don't even have to do it I have a couple that got caught with 50 pounds of weed a husband and wife she's pregnant they arrest them

they don't give them bond she's pregnant she has the baby in the county jail they take the baby from her and want to put the baby in foster care so they have to go through the courts to get the brother to raise the baby. She got six years, he got five years,

and the husband just came out 30 days ago. And she is still in with one more year to do for 50 pounds a wheat. Look, there's companies out here right now selling thousands of pounds every week. And there's companies, these corporate companies, are making $300 million every quarter.

$300 million every quarter. The U.S. government, too, because they're getting all the taxes for it. Absolutely. But yet, if you get caught with 50 pounds, you're going to jail for five to ten years. It makes no sense. So I have a nonprofit organization called FreedomGrow.org. And we're all about cannabis prisoners. We've got like a multitude of programs.

If you're a cannabis prisoner and you registered with us, we bet you. We go through your case, make sure you're a nonviolent cannabis prisoner. And if you are, if it's your birthday, your mother's birthday, your grandfather's birthday, your children's, your grandchildren, you just let us know what you want and we make it happen. Whether it's one single rose, I get one guy's for the last eight years, been wanting a single yellow rose on Mother's Day. Every holiday, we do gifting. every birthday and every holiday

we do gifting for these families because one thing about when you lock up a person you're actually incarcerated in the family because the separation is just trauma city it's sad because maybe the person was the breadwinner or the dad that's raising young kids

and now you've got a single mom and it's sad that that this is still happening just yesterday I did a family here in Florida we're gifted them we paired up with a YR wellness it's a big MSO and they have really stepped up to the plate and they're granting grants to help these families that are going through hardships and struggles while their

husband or father or somebody in the family is locked up for cannabis and the company that I the nonprofits call freedom growth.org if you haven't heard of it check it out. We will. Thank you. And so you were released from prison under the Obama administration? Is that because they were trying to like relax a little bit on? So I was released under the Obama administration and he had passed down a directive to the U.S. Justice Department to look at the nonviolent first time offenders that are doing long, lengthy prison sentences. So I fell right into that category. That's pretty, it's surprising for me who just, you know, consumes media when it comes

to drug smuggling. And the fact that you were able to do this with still being a nonviolent offender. I mean, like all the stories of cocaine smuggling. It's weed. Yeah, I know it's weed. I think that's something that. Smoke a joint. Yeah.

You want to chill. Yeah. I mean, was there much people you were dealing with who are, you know, constantly armed or was it more, that was a coke trade? If I thought you were armed, I wouldn't mess with you. I wouldn't, I don't want you around me. Yeah. And so all the weed you got was from Columbia.

Did you have a lot of contact with the cartel down there? For families that grew mountain sides of weed, if that's what you mean. All right. So, yeah. So you weren't dealing with a large criminal enterprise when buying the drugs, just sort of farmers who. When I started my first load in 1982, I went in and got 15,000 pounds on. a 68 foot vessel and that I met a family that had connections that took us up in the mountains and I looked at the weed that they had available and it was like exceptionally good yeah and all I

wanted was the tops I didn't want to bring in no yeah no um mid-level wheat no commercial wheat I didn't import commercial wheat all flower tops so it was all tops of the plant is a beautiful country oh i love it yeah beautiful um are you allowed to leave the country now or was part of your i'm all probate i was when i got out i had three years probation okay so um i'm i'm i'm got my passport now did they drug did they drug test you during your probation for marijuana damn skippy that that that must have that that must have been the worst yeah you know well it was all i I just didn't, I didn't smoke weed until after I was all probation. Well, what was that first joint like, or whatever you smoked after all those years and then

finally being able to. It was, no, I smoked almost every day in a joint. Oh, you did. How did that, how does that work? People get weed in. People can get like hard drugs in there too, right? Maximum security penitentiaries. I spent two years in the hole in Florence, Colorado.

Solitary confinement? Solitary confinement for, and. investigation of escape. Wow. I smoked weed in the hole at the most maximum security prison. Majority of the time I was there for two years. Wait, so does that mean that some of these guys who've been put away, be it like one of the Boston bombers, Sarnav, who I think is in there?

No, they're at the ADX. Okay, that's different. It's not happening. They're not getting weed? No. Okay, that makes me feel it. So when you, when you get to prison, are people kind of like, and they hear your story, are people like, that's pretty badass?

like you're the cool guy? So with my story in these prisons, you get a lot of respect because a lot of guys that are in there are hustlers and they kind of give you respect for one, for standing up. They're not inclined to friend

people that are cooperating witnesses. Yeah. You best hook it up to the lieutenant's office and check your ass in and go to the hole else you'll get beat down. This is in maximum security. Yeah. And minimum, a medium, it's not like that. You can walk the yard.

Okay. But in maximum security, if they find out that you, as a person that cooperated against others, very good chance of you getting booked. Or if you're Jared Fogel, say, I don't think he probably gets a lot of respect in prison. Jared Fogel was, you were maybe, This is one of my last questions, because I know we have to wrap it up.

After going to prison for so long and during extremely, like, huge changes in society, technology and everything, getting out, what was some of the most surprising things and differences from when you went in? The phones. Yeah. They talk to you. They tell you where to go. They listen to you. Yeah. The phones.

It blew my mind. My first night, I went out to dinner and I seen so many people at the restaurants. not talking and they're oh everyone's just glued yeah yeah and I told my family listen no phones at the dinner table that's a good rule yeah so I know I'm just blessed to be here one of the things that going to prison for so long I did 27 years really teaches your gratitude yeah and but not only that my last nine years I was a volunteer suicide companion I was a yoga instructor So it really taught me something

That's super valuable The highest form of knowledge on the planet Is empathy And gratitude is the abundance It's the cornerstone Of bringing abundance into your life It's amazing how it works And if you want to know more about it

Reach Survivor of the fastest And check out Freedom Road.org I'm really curious though like how you coped with your two years in solitary confinement because I feel like I would start to go kind of crazy after five days in there well you'd be surprised because one of the things we all have in common is adaptation and some people don't adapt so good you heard me just tell you nine years I was a suicide companion I'd set with hundreds and hundreds of men four hours a day people that tried to take their lives and some of them

were getting ready to go home they've been in for 30 years and now they're getting close to the door or maybe they've been in for eight years and their family then kicked them to the curve whatever the issue is and a lot of them's had stuff done to them since they was a child maybe by a family member and they've never gotten over it or had anybody to really help get them through it and understand that we all have special gifts right here we everyone on this planet have gifts within us we've got the gift of being having the capacity and the capability to be the observer of our own thoughts and emotions well with that known you can take that to another level and another gift is we can we have the capacity and capability to change any experience that we are experiencing in any situation or any

circumstances we have the ability to change that experience if you're having a negative experience you have the capacity and capability to change that experience simply by changing your perspective. It's all up here. I mean, I could have never imagined going through getting a life sentence, no parole. And having someone who's been there and seen it and gotten that in that moment and now having this outlook is just, I mean, it's inspiring more than anything. I just was a speaker at a cannabis convention and I was a keynote speaker. And he asked me, well, what would be your topic? And I said, inspiration and magnificence.

How are you going to speak about that? Look, inspiration and magnificence is within us and all around us. You can look at your brother right here. Inspiration, we can all inspire each other and we can inspire ourselves. And that, to me, is magnificent. Well, unfortunately, I think we're going to have to wrap it up. I think we didn't even get into, you know, your Indian. 500 rookie of the year, 1986.

We didn't even get to racing. What was a bigger rush, racing in the Indy 500 or bringing in a giant shipment of weed? Racing. Okay. It's nothing like it. Yeah. How much cross training was there between racing and smuggling? Like, going fast.

I didn't train for the smuggling, but I trained for the racing. I'm a big runner. I'd run 50 to 75 miles a week at the gym back in the day. trained hard a lot of I like to do hand eye coordination a racquetball player I love racquetball so much I built my own racquetball court at my house so

what did you ever smoke while racing hell no I was wondering how that no no I didn't smoke actually I quit smoking weed in 1979 because I wanted to become a race car driver and I would taste some of the weed that I was smuggling I bring it in but I didn't

I stopped the smoking because I wanted to devote my life to racing yeah so yes so when you'd won the Indy 500 rookie of the year in 1986 do you think that may have

contribute to attention on you and your had nothing to do with it I was already on an investigation when I was at the 500 in 1986 yeah oh yeah

when you were like first on the run when you knew they were coming for you I was reading that you went to Europe first right you were in Monte Carlo and first came to New York City first came to New York and then Monte Carlo but then you went back to the Caribbean Monte Carlo then Switzerland yeah south of France I just was taking care of business and I had a house and a boat down into islands in Antigua do you think if you had just stayed in Europe you would have been caught if you had just stayed there for the your life and if i'd have stayed in europe i may have not been caught i don't know but you know i did and had to pay my dues yeah and three decades 27 years and now i'm out and helping others with

cannabis prisoners that are in well yeah i mean you're you're doing the right thing because there's a lot of people who need your help thank you please check out freedom grow we're all volunteers by the way none of us none of our board members take a salary we all do it on our own time that's awesome and also read survival of the fastest

get more of this story it's awesome thank you oh I just want to tell you I put this book out I dropped it August 2nd in four days it was the number one bestseller on Amazon.com Amazon but just sold it for a movie a full feature of film

that's awesome let's go So let's go. It's getting it done. When you have some more time in the future, we definitely have to have you back on to talk about. Yeah, we got a lot to cover. Yeah, because this is when the movie comes out. We'll bring it back for the movie. Yeah, this has been amazing.

Thank you so much for coming on. I got one question, man. Can you all hear me? Yes. I've been intently listening. This is a crazy story, man. So I just had a few questions, man. I apologize for keeping you no longer.

But something you said was extremely powerful. But I always wondered about this, right? Because you said the highest form of knowledge on the planet is empathy, right? And in your experience, how far do you extend that empathy within drawing boundaries for yourself for people not taking advantage of you? Well, I think my intuition kind of fills that out when I think someone, Right now, some crazy stuff's going on with the cannabis industry that I'm involved with and with corporations and so forth trying to get things done. I just got given a license in the state next to you, New Jersey.

Of all things, they've awarded me a cultivation license, a tier 4, 75,000 square feet of canopy. That's huge. And so in speaking to that, I got company. companies, corporations wanting to buy out my license right now, but I'm not going to corporate route. I'm kind of figuring it out myself. But for my empathy and applying it to people that are trying to maybe take advantage of something, I try to lead for my heart. And one of the things that if our intentions are from the hard, you'll always make the good decisions, I think. I got you. I appreciate that.

Lastly, man, I know it's a little kind of funny, but I'm just curious how this shit works. Like when you got when you got pinched and you said you had all these overseas accounts, are those accounts still active? How does that work? No, they took seven years. I'm in the joint

and four and a half years later, my wife gets indicted for money laundering. They end up arresting her. They seized their accounts in Switzerland. So when they seize those accounts, in one of their lawyers' offices were file cabinets

and in those file cabinets were documents that led them to another country to Lichtenstein, where they went over there and seized those accounts. So it was like a domino effect, man, from one country to another, from Panama, the Lichtenstein, to Luxembourg to Zurich to Geneva. They just...

Falled the money. I thought the whole point of Switzerland was that they didn't, like, no, you can't look at it. I thought that was, the whole thing. If it's drug related that you have no rights to any funding in Switzerland they will turn your ass over.

Damn. Well, I appreciate the transparency, man. It's an amazing story. As they said, it's hell of inspiring, man. So I appreciate you sharing. Well, thank you, man. Look, we're all so blessed just to be here to have this freedom to go on the paths that we want to go on. And, you know,

we all can do great things because we have so many gifts within us. And if you really, really live through your heart with good intentions, you'll get all that stuff done. Last last question, I promise. Are you still racing? I am doing a, this is amazing. Tomorrow, Road and Track Magazine has invited me to do the Hudson Quad Central. They're giving me a new Hellcat, 690, I think 40 horsepower to drive a rally from Albany, New York to Lime Rock, Connecticut.

with 25 hand-picked cars. So I do high-performance driving instructions through Daytona, Homestead Speedway, and Sebring in Florida. And I've done five races since I've been released. I've taken two seconds, one-fourth, and two DNFs. Did not finish. Okay. Do you think you could compete with some of the guys today, have a resurgence?

I better be in a class with some legacy. people because my eyesight's not like it used to be my reflexes aren't like it used to be so at a point there comes when age comes about and you don't see no f1 drivers that are in their 40s or 50s or 60s you see youngsters that are at the wheel with the foot down on the throttle doing amazing things so does the reflexes really deteriorate that much with age to the point where it's yeah when you're traveling at over 200 miles an hour and you're moving so fast you've got to be quick on your eyesight and your hands

yeah because you would think that you could just you know really drive like as someone who's a much much more of an outsider to the sport you feel that driving something that doesn't it's not that intensive on your body so that oh it's killer on the body yeah I mean I've never experienced it

constantly getting G forces and the heat in the car is just amazing. It's 120 degrees or more in the car. Yeah, you have to be so locked in. I can't even imagine it. That's it. The guys that you see are up front a lot. Yeah.

They're probably concentrating. Their level of concentration is probably just a tad higher than the people in the back. Yeah. I mean, I get nervous when I'm going like 80 miles per hour on the highway, so I can't imagine doing what you do. Do you think there's been some controversy in NASCAR in some of the racing leagues recently about Adderall use and drivers.

Do you have any input on that? Was it prevalent in your time? Adderall probably didn't even exist. I had type of amphetamines. Anybody that's got any sense isn't doing drugs in a race car. I just, I never saw it. I saw it afterwards.

Yeah. Afterwards there were people that would take pot and snort and coke or whatever, drinking beers or whatever, but not in a car. Yeah. well i think that's all the time we got for today we need to have you back definitely thank you so much for coming on thank you so much for you check out freedom grow dot org and check out survival

the fastest the story of randy an amazing story and uh thanks for having thanks for coming on thank you that was randy leneer a really amazing guest honestly we're going to have him back talk more of his story because we didn't even get into his racing uh that was wild that was a tour to force he has a great attitude for someone who had to spend 26 years in jail well he got to smoke weed every day in prison that was the wildest part of the whole i don't know i know drugs were that accessible but after reading about all the smuggling that goes into prisons like i mean i'm i wanted to ask him if all the weed was from keistering um but probably different probably like you know the old like longest yard tricks um um i don't think it would be too painful to put a small

baggie up your butt would you guys do it no i think if i'm if i'm at the point in my life you'd put it smuggling if i'm at the point where i'm smuggling shit in my booty like it's like it's whatever at that point you know what i'm like how have i got to do to do to make it do today. That's what I'm doing. Well, I was actually shocked. I was at a soccer game in Milan and they were playing Liverpool. This was this was not patty the batty but it was one of his friends. I noticed he was doing cocaine and he had just like flown in from from the UK and I was like how did how did you get that in Italy and he was like oh I just I just put it in between my butt cheeks and brought on the plane. Flu commercial. Yeah.

And flew commercial. It wasn't like a lot, but that's not, that's not something I would ever do. Yeah. Oh, European, like, European securities pretty light, though, right? I get, I mean, no one is like, no one is checking your butt, but I, they don't have those raise your hand. Yeah, I assume when you raise your hands, that can see if you have like a tiny baggie in between your butt cheeks or else what's the point of even having those things.

I don't know, man. I'd be looking at it. They don't really have. It doesn't look that. I think it's more for like metal and stuff like that. I don't think they're really checking for drugs. Oh, I think it can see everything. That was the whole big thing when they started those was people where they said it was like too invasive.

But they can't see everything. You can see what they see on the other side. They can't see everything. Can they see your penis? Because I read a story about a TSA employee who got to a fight. Yeah, because like all of his coworkers were making fun of his small. small penis and he just lost it because the guys you can't attack them but i think bro you can see what they see you can't you can't see you can't see it no no that thing that they see is something that either

computer scans or a third party person who's like in the back who can't even see you is looking at okay i didn't know there was a third party viewing it yeah because that story was that true yeah yeah like that no no that that was a true story and i mean no i'm talking about somebody else looking at the oh yeah I don't know about that at the scanner at the airport I also have a take after reading all this

because of how much smuggling impacts the economy in taxes like what if all the TSA implication was to conserve tax dollars and ensure

that you couldn't fly cigarettes to New York City that's pretty wild you think that's why they have I mean you're not allowed to bring like smuggling i don't know it's a big impact on smuggling you can't smuggle stuff on your person anymore because of those things like think about the economic boom from not being able to bring food into airports not being able to you know put whatever you want in your

suitcase well you can bring some food you just can't bring water or like a drink through but like yeah you can't bring a drink so alcohol sales are boosted like the the in the thing is you can expense a lot of work trip stuff how much of an economic boom was caused by more intense security at the airport i don't know the crazy thing though is that they've shown it like the like every once in a while homeland security will just send someone through with like a fake bomb or a gun a fake gun and like i think they only they only catch those people like 10 percent of the time but they do catch a lot of people so real quick this this this interview said um millimeter wave machines don't see nipples or genitalia and they do not pick up size, weight, or height.

You can't, oh, fucking add. I think maybe the first version of it, you could. Yeah, the first version is, yeah, then they changed it because it was too, it was too invasive. The waves go through, because people were getting made fun of for having small penises. And they reflect off the passenger's skin. Why don't they make, why hasn't plastic surgery made penis stuff yet? They do have penis enlargement. do yeah but like right in Miami and like if if you go down to Miami you can get whatever surgery

you want I feel like that would like make so many insecure people and just life better yeah but you have to think about how I think I think that's a big surgery yeah I think there's a big not good happening rate and they have this thing where they're not really making your dick longer they like just bring your penis like further further out of your body so it looks it looks bigger it's more of an optical yeah i watched something on youtube about this doctor in miami who's like the premier penis enlargement guy and like all the people going to him were the duchiest guys you could imagine but just because it's a it's a very pricey surgery so it's all just extremely rich extremely insecure people that are going down for it.

That TSA agent just went right down to Miami. Yeah. I mean, I also think there's a difference between someone who has like a small penis and then if you have a micro. Micro. I don't think you can do anything about that. Yeah, I don't think there's much. I think that's just what it is.

Unless you just got a new penis, but I'm pretty sure. Yeah, that could be, I could see how that would suck, man. Yeah. That would suck. Um, yeah. I have someone ready. If you're a listener, it's okay. Yeah.

It's okay. Yeah. It's okay. You're probably extremely skilled in other ways. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And people are okay with that.

Yeah. You better. You better get that mouth popping. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they also have a surgery that can make you, I think, four inches taller. That is one of the most painful surgeries in the world. Yeah.

They have to break, like, all. breaks your bones, yeah, that's crazy. That is crazy. Just be happy with... Yeah, I mean, I... But you can't change. But you want to get a boob job. And but, yeah, now if you're going bald and you have the money, you can get new hair.

I mean, you're sitting in someone's seat who's bald in. Yeah, and he could probably afford to get the hair transplant. He's looking for pity. I know he's not here, but... But I don't know if PFT's a type of guy who would get hair transplant surgery. I don't know, who, um, everyone's going to Turkey for that. Yes. That, yeah, what, what's your insight on that?

Well, just walking around there, you see all these people who have bandages on their head because it's the, it's the hair transplant capital of the world where you can get it here. I just think it's a lot cheaper in Turkey and they have tons of doctors who do it. So that's like made it the capital. There's like, I heard there's travel packages that are less expensive than the price of the surgery here. And they like set you up like, you can like, it's like a whole travel experience where you do that. while you go to like spas after the surgery you go to like like the bazaars and stuff before the surgery yeah you get the full experience um i have someone ready to beef if we want to beef let's do

right that's weird that wraps up the smuggler talk let's see let's see if we got any smuggled stuff yet but those gone great job implants hello scary is yeah hey you hear me yeah what's your name Uh, Excalibur. Excalibur. Ooh, Sword. Uh, yeah, Billy. I, I, I, I, my main, my name, sorry, I'm super nervous.

Um, my name, uh, is Callan. So I just went with Excalibur. Where? In Corps, Inc. And my main, your, your, your name is, is, is, is, is, no, my, my, my actual name is Callan. Callin. Callin. Yeah.

Got you. What up, dog. What's to be? What's up, dude. um so to be honest don't have any beef i just wanted to say i appreciate all y'all and what you do every week um i enjoy listening to y'all um one thing i will say to mad dog is that was or actually my wife loves or loved one direction and um i had a big big i was a big big big doubter in um Harry Styles for a while but this last album was um pretty awesome this is the best beef I've ever

heard yeah I just I don't know I I didn't really you know I'm a pretty you know positive vibes guys so I didn't really want to come in here you know like a bull in a china shop I I'm look this is oh this just made my day I love when I love when like straight guys think they're too cool for one direction in Harry Styles who's got it was straight you're what probably yeah and and they're like oh no like they're like hair styles isn't cool and then they listen and then they get yeah and it's awesome and again hair styles isn't for everyone but he is for a lot of fucking people and he rocks and I love him so much and he is the best and I'm so glad that you enjoy him and also one direction like their later albums um like four and

Made in the A.m. If you are into Harry stuff, those are similar vibes. Like, you can find some really good songs on their, like, kind of last two albums that are more, they're less like bubble gum pop. Like, they have some bangers on four and

Made in the A.m. If anyone else is listening to this and wants Harry Styles Adjacent music, I'm sure there's tons of you. No Control on Four, on Clouds and Stockholm Syndrome. and then on made in the a.m. Temporary mad dog's going off right now.

Yeah. And again, this is why this should be the niche category for a dozen anyways. And then on made in the a.m. if you want temporary fix and end of the day and history, like those are all really good songs that are kind of like hair styles adjacent to what he's kind of doing now. But Harry Styles is fucking I love him so much. He rocks.

So I'm glad you enjoy him. Yeah, I won't go that far. I really don't know anything about him other than this last album. But yeah, I did have a question for Arian now that I think about it. So how often do you kind of listen to other, you know, very different genres of music when you are trying to, you know, kind of formulate what goes into a new project that you have? So, say, like, for example, you're, you know, rap, hip hop, you know, kind of, but like, have you ever, like, ventured into listening to, like, metal or, you know, more hardcore rock to kind of incorporate any of those sort of things in your music? Yeah, that's a good question. Actually, growing up, I mean, rap was the popular genre around, you know, my demographic growing up.

but my mom we put my mom and dad my mom and dad love Tupac and so they were like really open into what we were into but we were also open into what they were into and so my mom and dad

are like from different places so my mom was from like a small farm and so she listened to like all that like Beach Boys and Eagles and Three Dog Night and Patsy Klein Three Dog Night's incredible yeah yeah and so like growing up I listened to all that shit

and so I didn't like listening to the new music it didn't come with a bias It was like, oh, you bitch, because you listen to Woo. It was just natural for me to listen to all that kind of stuff. And my dad, he's from South Central LA. And so I got, you know, confunction and earth, winter fire and that, you know, that's that side of genre. And so I was never the cool kid as far as, like, too cool to check out of the genres. I've definitely listened to metal.

Like, I know, like, Rob Zombie, like stuff like that. Like, I grew up, like, listening to and trying out. And also, like, rock and roll. Or it's like Aerosmith or, you know, red hot chili peppers, shit like that. And so like when I'm creating a project, I'm more so get out like a feel of a sound that I'm trying to capture. And then I will dabble like, so this new project I'm working on, I'm listening to a lot of like funk stuff because I'm really into the harmonies of funk.

And so that's a great question. But yeah, I love all genres of music, like all of it. Yeah, I was just wondering because, you know, A lot of, a lot of, like when you listen to people's music, and I feel like whenever you go deeper into somebody's album, you kind of look for what they're sampling. It kind of can show where, you know, where their heads at whenever they're making a project. So I appreciate that insight. But yeah, so I just, you know, I just wanted to get on here.

I didn't want to bring any bad vibes. I know this is what's the beef, but, you know, I'm a positive vibes guy. we should start doing questions because it's a lot less I kind of like this sometimes though this is nice but maybe we should just change yeah that's what Billy's saying though Billy just want to argue with somebody

yeah we should just make you questions I don't know why we you sometimes we should do questions and beef yeah okay so maybe you heard the start of something new Excalibur thanks Excalibur nice dude appreciate that'd be that would be awesome if I could start

something new that'd be that'd be insane we'll call it back Scalibati Calibers. We're not going to call it. You might have to work on the name. Fact. I appreciate you call the name. Ask for facts.

Let's keep. Yeah. Keep the, yeah, keep spitballing. But yeah, I appreciate y'all. I don't want to,

you know, take up too much of the time. But yeah, I appreciate you all and everything you do. Oh, one more thing. Sorry. I keep adding on.

But the, I'm going back to a listener question or a voicemail. It was like, what do you, what do you like to listen to or look at when you're high. The best YouTube channel that I've ever come across to watch is, I think it's, I think it's pronounced Kurtzkat, Kurtzkat.

Zerkazakht. Kzerkazak. Yeah, Kurtzkazak. And I actually sent you one, sent you a video, Aryan, and, you know, it was right as I started started, you know, the process of, you know. You know, you're ritual. And you sit down, I got on Twitter. I started watching this video.

I sent it to you. I said, watch this while. Hi. And so do you, I took it from your reaction that you, you've kind of seen his, their stuff, right? Yeah, I've been on Kazerkazak for good seven years. Yeah, they have a lot of stuff. They're really good, really well researched. Yeah.

It's very science-based. They tell you when they're leaving the science realm and entering philosophy. be like i like i like informative videos that they're really really dope to me yeah now favorite one of theirs is called uh what is light what is light i haven't seen that one it's dope it's like five minutes it's really short but it's really dope one of my favorite ones is the one i think it's like when would the last human be born something like that and the the numbers that they that they start thrown out there as far as like population in the future is unfathomable you know like we think that we're, you know, part of like the 5% of humans that will ever live, right?

Or have lived so far. And then when they start talking about like, oh, you could be part of the 0.001% of people who ever lived is mind blank. But yeah, I appreciate it. Mad Dog, I'm sorry. I kind of bended the truth a little bit when I said I had beef with you about Harry Styles. But, yeah, to tie it all back, Harry Styles is pretty chill. And I think more guys need to get out of their.

rut and listen to other music that they might think is a little bit more feminine. Look, so do I. We appreciate you, brother. Thank you. I appreciate it. Take care, my guy. Take care. Yeah. Thank you. Bye. Okay, I have another guy

who I think actually has beef. I think that's nice, though. Granted, he was complimenting, or he was talking about something. All these people are so nice, then the next guy's going to come in and be like, Bill, you're a pussy. Yeah, it was good to keep us. How would we just make it like you could do both? You'd be nice. or beef.

Yeah. As long as you choose one of the other. You can't just come on and be neutral. Donnie, you might catch them strays. I don't know if people know I'm actually here right now. I did. I told them because you can't beef with PFT today.

Someone did say they have beef with you. Yeah? About some take you had about garbage or something, garbage plate. Yeah, I mean, oh yes, yep. I know, I know about that. Hello? Chief did man, no, there.

How are we doing, guys? Are you chief? Yes, I am chief. I'm doing well. My, I just wanted to, my beef today kind of revolves around Big T. And I'm going to start by saying, Big T, I view you as the most valuable Dojan or the MVD. Because without you, this might be too much of a liberal circle jerk as a liberal myself. Many people have said this.

So I just, I just want to guess you a little bit. liberal but either way too liberal today but basically the first thing i wanted to say big t was congrats on on the win with tennessee but i do have beef with the fact that the episode before that you were acting like you were too cool to say we want bama and then you were scrambling like little boy on christmas morning the second that that field goal went through so i mean that that's the one thing it's like it's happy it's good to be happy about it but you were acting way too cool for the we want Bama thing it's not i found the question odd like Tennessee plays Alabama every year i i love that we play them every year it's a great

rivalry yeah i i want to play them and beat them no and i know and i and i get that but like let's be real bro you're acting wait to oh play the next guy in front of us and then you you wanted that bad but they wanted that bad you wait 17 years yeah yeah no shit and then here's the first I've been years that you were ready. And then here's what had happened if I was like, yeah, fuck, we want Bama. And then if Tennessee loses, then you guys would have been like, oh, what a fucking idiot, like thought they were going to beat Alabama. So there's no, there's no way.

An emotional hedge, basically. It's all right to be hopefully optimistic. And then move accordingly to how other people go react to you, though. No, I think you know me well enough to know that that's not the case. I'm just saying that, what you just said. No, I said that regardless of what you say people would have found issue in. minute. So they find issue and not gassing up your team and being there through the hard times and being like, you're damn right. Listen, I'm a Washington football fan. So my life's been rough.

I have sat there in Tennessee losing to Georgia State to fucking every other team you can imagine. Trust me, I have I've been there when Tennessee was not worth a fuck. I am very happy that they are good now. All right. All right. Well, fair enough. Fair enough there. The other thing I wanted to do to come to your defense was there was the discussion around the Billy Eichner tweet and as a as a the whole billy Eichner tweet where he was like about the uh transphobia you don't go see his movie and stuff I actually kind of side with you on that because it was like there's no need to even make that comment it's just like go promote your own movie don't be like making a comment about transphobia and they kind of jumped on you or at least a couple of people on here like Arian and pft he didn't

He didn't say transphobia. Well, yeah, homophobia. Strait people didn't come and see this movie. Well, then he said, if you're not a homophobic weirdo, go see bros tonight. Oh, really? Okay. Yeah, that's off. Like, you might just not want to see it because it might not be a great movie.

Oh, yeah? I saw it before we interviewed him to give a synopsis. And look, it was funny, but a lot of the subject matter didn't really pertain to me. And I don't think I would have gone on my way to. see it. Okay. Well, you're all the public weirdo. I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I just, I, I understood where you were coming from with that, and I think you got jumped down a little bit harder than, than needed.

He was triggered. I appreciate that. Um, and then lastly, I just want to, I wanted to say to you, big T is tell me you a man city fan without tell me you a man city fan that this one's for you, Aryan, where you went to the, to Aryan's player card for his hands ability, because there's the discussion about Arian's hands. First off, if Arian's is nice at Valerant, as he says he is and all this, I don't know in particular. He's definitely got nice. On Diamond now. Diamond, yeah. He's a pro athlete and he's a diamond in Valerant. Like, I'm a gamer myself. That's, that's nice. Like, they don't respect that on this. Wait, I'm, I'm telling them, they don't know how, you know what I mean?

I'm calling it's a sheer skill gap. It's a game that respects a skill gap, competitive as fuck, unlike games like Call Duty, where I sweat on. But I respect that, Arian. You got nice hands. This man went to the Madden player card. This man's like electronic arts. I'm confused what that has to do with Manchester City. That's because you pick Man City based on just like FIFA, right?

I'm pretty sure you admitted that. I see. You're like, oh, here's the gold state warriors of the FIFA game. Let's go for them. Yeah, I mean, I don't necessarily see the coral. I would just, curious what Madden had Ariens' hands at. All right. All right, well, you know, either way, just wanted to say, just come in here.

There's a couple things I had for you, especially because, you know, want to congratulate you. That's a big win. Thought you tried to play it off is too cool. Billy and Avery, I appreciate the dark horse pick for Penn State. I'm a Penn State guy. If you ever want to come up for a wet-out game, you guys should definitely do that. That's one of the best college football experiences. And Donnie, can we have you on here as a mainstay?

Bro, that conversation on the last pod were you, Avery, and Billy just cooked when the other three went to the, what was it the trivia or whatever that was awesome that's a good time i i love this pod i love coming on so we got more coming tomorrow excellent yeah might have to do a third pot a week called extra dose just us yeah yeah extra dose donnie dose love it if we can get billy playing european football oh my god dude i actually really want to do that i've been thinking about it he's in the process i'm Like I squatted 365 in my squat workout just trying to get back up there because I'm thinking like maybe I'm going to do it better to start get the weights up for QB. Are you going for QB or like because they're only allowed for USA players or something shit?

Yeah, I think I'd start slinging the rock again. That'd be sick. I'm thinking about it. They might be about that to get a little more exposure. I didn't even realize they had a league like that. I'd have to really if I wasn't good enough, I would if I, if I, I, if I didn't feel like I could still slain and still do it, I wouldn't like put myself in the situation where I'd just be like, oh, Billy, like, we want this kid to bring us

exposure, just throw me starting and just like suck. Like I, I'm thinking that I can have some success. The content alone would be amazing. Because they have that big European league, but they have smaller leagues that are like just in Spain or just in Italy where the competition isn't like isn't as intense. You could probably like a champions league for for American football over there then that austria and germany you were mentioned them in barcelona like that's like the highest level where i think it's a lot of d1 college players who go and play in that league but um like the smaller leagues that are just in one country those are a lot of d3 college players so i think i think you'd be able to thrive be so tight well either way guys that's all i had for you

guys one of the highlights of my week two times a week listening to you guys really appreciate you guys have me on and uh can't wait to listen to some more you guys appreciate it thanks for Thank you. Whoa, whoa, whoa. Peace. We have a girl who wants to beef. Yeah, two or more. A girlie.

Sneaky, sneaky, too nice people. Let's see, let's see we continue on. There's someone just. Bro, I feel like we have to explain this to you. Every what's the beef. There's nobody that's going to be mad. They're obviously fans of the pop, bro. I know, but sometimes they just come in hot.

Yeah, I feel like all of the people that are the biggest haters wouldn't take the time to call. Thanks Or again I think it's like a lot of They're haters and then they get on here And you have to like face it Yeah Even a lot of people realize

Hating's not really fun in person Yeah It's only it's only fun on a keyboard Hello? Hi Hi Are you Katie? She sounds pissed

I know I'm actually a woman This is awesome I am Katie who do you have beef with Okay so I have beef with Billy and I want to be real nice about this because, you know, people don't be nice.

Don't be nice. But what you said about black bears is completely false. They're very protective of their cubs. They're just reluctant to attack people. So I was on that train. I was like, yeah, black bear, that black bear was definitely a cub defending. But then there was this dude in my DMs

who was commentant on the post that said that black bear, Like, he held, he posted a picture of him with two black bear cubs that he had picked up that the mother just didn't drink. Oh, my God. What am I? Yeah. Was that out like a zoo? Don't do that.

I know. Don't do that. At all. And they can actually have predatory attacks. So, in August, there was a woman in Vermont who got attacked out of nowhere by a black bear and they really don't know why. Wow. Yeah. Whoa.

So I just want to say, if you're gone. to say anything about you know dangerous animals do a little quick fact check before you know you spread that information i love this woman huh by the way that video that was seen so it turns out that was actually an asiatic black bear closer to a sloth bear it was a japanese black bear so video is terrifying i know did you see the the story about the two wrestlers from wyoming that grappled a bear off his friend. I saw the photo afterwards. Yeah, it's on ESPN.

It's insane. I'm going to have to look that up immediately. But yeah, that was. I could see. And also, Mad Dog, thank you so much for picking me. You're welcome. I saw a girl in the discord and I like, I needed it like I needed air to breathe. Yeah, there's a lot of testosterone in there. Yeah, I know. It's very toxic.

Tell me about it. But I actually do agree with you. I definitely think that blackberries are more cub protective than people think, probably with other smaller animals, but when people talk about they're not cub protective when they attack humans, I think it's more the human element. So I totally agree with you. Thank you. And so I'm from Northern Vermont. I'm in the Chicago suburbs now. But when you go hiking, you'll like run into a lot of black bears. And sometimes you'll see cubs and the moms will get like really defensive, but they're usually like, they'll just run off. So they'll like puff and puff and get kind of close and look really angry, but nine times out of time, they just turn around.

Northern Vermont's probably beautiful right now. That's gorgeous, yeah. All the foliage. Was that what that video of was? Was that the video of was? Was that a black bear? Would I do beat the black bear off him down at the mountain? Yeah, right? Yeah. Oh, no, that was in that video that I showed was in Japan. That's what's up. But was it a black bear?

it was a Japanese black bear which is more like a sloth bear which is super vicious I betty him off though yeah but crazy stuff all right well thank you guys so much I need to get back into work

I'm definitely being looked at right now so thank you I appreciate you being a girl in the discord yeah thanks you guys have a great day you too take care have a great day love her All right She came in here

Female fans in the discourse Shout out to her As a girl And then proceeded to explain To Billy A bare fact That was awesome That was

That was really awesome Well I guess Love it That's macro dosing Hopefully PFT's back On Monday For nanodosing I think you will be

If not Donnie you're still around Next week I will be around Can I add one more thing about drug smuggling. Oh yeah. It's empty the clip.

We got to empty the clip. Did you guys remember when one of the editors for Vice in Canada was arrested for like running a cocaine trafficking ring? Oh yeah. Or he was involved in it. Yeah. And he was getting people he worked with to like transport cocaine to Australia. That would that would be like if Colie Mick when he was the editor was like trying to convince

some of the interns to like. fly a package for him to Australia but yeah Jake Valisek yeah hey Jake I got a package don't worry just don't look into it and just fly to Australia yeah so I guess when he was he was trying to convince

one of the people to to do it he said yo this is the most gangsterish thing that you will ever do and try to compare it to a future song in an attempt to hype them up so just going up to Jake Maliceck you know it's going to be just like a

a future song fuck up some commas yeah fuck up some commas in Australia don't fumble the bag yeah but yeah

he got caught and he is now doing time in jail where he wants to start a podcast the funniest the funniest meme I saw

about the Broncos losing two nights ago was some of the Broncos players just like talking to each other looking pissed on the sideline but you're like

we can't listen the future in the locker room for this oh oh man Uh, yeah, so just wanted to compare that to what it would be like if that happened at bar store. Awesome.

Cool. Um, thanks for listening. Buy our merch. Oh, buy the merch. Oh, buy the merch. Please. You guys look so beautiful and handsome right now in the Mids and the Macro House merch. The Macro House merch is sick.

Billy, do you want to turn around real quick? Do a little 180? It's got our faces on the back. Me and Avery also made the shirt this time. Yeah, we listened. We listened to, we listened to some consumer feedback. And yeah, we ramped it up. We got all good quality material now.

Yeah, that's the thing with the merch here. You got to let them know you want the high quality stuff. Yeah. But we got Mids merch. We got Macro House merch. We got the tie merch that you guys saw a couple days ago. You got a whole slew of stuff out right now. Mm-hmm.

So go buy it. Arian, I'm sorry for interrupting your song. No, it was user error, my brother. You couldn't hear it It was neither one of our phones Oh also shout out the Billy List guys Who helped me out with my truck Huge

Huge shout out to engineer guy And I'm forgetting the names right now But you help me a lot All right See you guys next week Yeah thank you to them Peace Love you guys

You know what I'm going to be.