Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Edward Snowden

Episode Date: September 29, 2022

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the crew is back to talk everything about Edward Snowden and his NSA leak that took the world by storm (1:21:10). You'll even get an EXCLUSIVE audio clip from the Waffle House recording we did in Knoxville (HEADPHONE WARNING: It was loud in WaHo so we had to jack the audio). Also, Jeff D. Lowe hops on the pod to do a review of Russell Wilson's new Subway sandwich and we end with some voicemails. All of this and more on today's show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macrodosing listeners. You can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. Ooh, hear that? No. Wait, put it. Oh, it's creating static interference. What does that mean?

What if you just... I've got my brain waves being zapped right now. They're totally, like, reading... I'm going to have a great show. The Neo-Rhythm pulses are shooting directly into my seraphed. Rebel Cortex. Quick, ask me some trivia questions. Okay.

Who won the 1999 ALVMP? A.L. MVP. Derek Cheater. Is that real? I don't know. Sounds real. It sounds real to me, too. AL MVP 99.

No, you're wrong. Gary Sheffield. No. I don't know. Alex Rodriguez. Yvonne Rodriguez. Oh. Oh.

Okay. Rodriguez. And I was chipper that year. Really? I miss. Ask me some, just go to a random trivia website. I want to see if this is going to work. Hold on, hold on.

I wonder if this is going to sound annoying to anybody that's listening. Stick with us. We're trying. This is crazy that the electric waves are being picked up on the electronics in here. Because it's not making that noise. Yeah, I can hear it. Wait, maybe. Everyone can be quiet.

Listen very closely. There's nothing coming out of the actual. I'm going to turn it up. Brain collar. Okay. Are those what they throw on the dudes with concussions? I don't know. I don't know what they throw on the dudes.

Okay. Trivia. Okay. Is it still loud? Yeah. HG is the chemical symbol of what element? I don't know shit about science. Oh, I know this.

It's like... It's easy. You better get it the way that you just reacted to that. I know it. HG? HG it's you guys should all why do you what is it helium no HG is Helgillium no it's it doesn't have like an H or a G yeah it's yeah it's it's one of those brain it's one of those brain teasers is it iron no oh no sodium no I don't know mercury oh wrong okay okay I got a D minus in chemistry in high school okay what is the capital city of Spain That would be Madrid. Correct.

What email service is owned by Microsoft? Outlook. No. Yes. Oh, no, you guys can't guess anymore. You already... Hotmail. You already botched.

Wait, wait, that's an old, that's an old trivia. It's now called Outlook. I got it right twice. Okay. Yeah. Name the three primary colors. Red, blue. Yellow.

Yellow. Yeah. Got it faster. Your brain. You copied two of mine. No, I didn't. Pure Water has a pH level of around what? Seven.

That was me. It wasn't. Yeah, it was. I was first. What is a group of lions known as? Pride. I said it first. Jesus Christ.

No, you didn't. I said it first. Pride. You're also looking it up. No, I'm not. I'm literally doing my job on my phone right now while smoking you fools. What scientist was awarded the 1921 Nobel Prize in Physics? Einstein.

Yeah. bitch what is the world's largest ocean Pacific good it's not the deepest though yes it is the mariana trenches in the Pacific Ocean bitch no but on

on uh huh on agriac okay so we're doing ocean death by aggregate the Pacific is low key shallow as well it's got the deepest place on earth in it so I'm gonna say that that's just in one spot I'm gonna say that's the deepest ocean it's like a puddle I think 99% of everyone would agree

Team Atlantic. I like the Atlantic the best. How many bones do sharks have? Bones? It's all cartilage. Zero. Good job. Good question.

Unless you count their teeth is bones. In which case, they have hundreds. Well, they're not bones. But they're made out of bone. Teeth are not made out of bone. It's just interesting that you, and they could be considered bones. Teeth are not made out of bone. What flavor is quontro?

Is quintro? Is it fruity. Spell it? C-O-I-N. Oh, is that a tree? Yeah. Is that how you say it? Yeah.

That was pretty close. I've never had it. Sorry, Billy. You lost on that one. I'm actually trying to do thousand things right now. How many hearts does an octopus have? Four. Eight.

Three, three, three, three, three. Damn. Which planet has the most gravity? Jupiter. Good. Did I hit the question right? Yeah, you did. What country did ACDC originate in?

Australia. Good. That's white. I'm not paying attention right now. Oh, okay. Billy is not paying attention. That's why he's not getting these. Okay.

What is the colored part of the human eye that controls how much light passes through the pupil? Iris. Yeah. Whoa. Good job. I'm, yeah, Billy. I'm not paying attention right now. Just hold that on record.

What year did the cold roar end? 1991. No. 90. No. 89. Yeah. It depends on how you define it.

Count them backwards. Which company owns Bugatti, Lamborghini, Audi, Porsche, and Dukadi. Ooh, that's a good question. Oh, it's the same one that owns, that makes it tucktooks. Wait, did Porsche Lamborghini? Yeah. It's Volkswagen. Yeah.

Really? Yeah. Yes, sir. The Statue of Liberty was given to the U.S. by which gone. France. France. That's well, I'll never go to it. Fuck the French.

do think that the Statue of Liberty could be a classic Trojan horse there could be shit inside of it like a bomb. You think there's people? No, I think that there's there could be a bunch of old dead. Oh, speaking of bombs. So, they couldn't get out. Or there could be just a bomb that's been ticking for the last 200 years. Billy, what are you doing?

Please, please tell me what you're doing. Okay, I'm taking my brain link off right now. Okay, now let's see. Billy. Jesus. What is the symbol for Potassium. Okay.

No. Okay. Let's just do this for three hours. What would be the show? I literally just looked up a random trivia site. Jeff is going to be joining us. Jeff from the dozen trivia. He's going to pop in for a second because he bought,

he's getting a couple of danger witches at Subway, the Russ Wilson. No way, really. Yeah. He's getting the rest. That shit you did was fucking in there. Your video is so funny. I think I'm going to become a duet guy on TikTok now. I'll send you stuff you can do it.

Why don't you do that for me? Never mind. What are you talking about? Don't. Don't. Can you do like funny cringe ones? Would you do that? Yeah, sure.

I'll just, I'll do that, whatever. Just send me some duets. I don't know what I'm doing. But Billy, are you mad at me because I didn't post that on your account? On the part of my day account? Yeah. I think we did anyway. Yeah.

Wait, would you post it originally yours? Yeah. Just a mine. Yeah. No, I found it all the part of my take account. Yeah, grow your own brand.

Only barstles. Yeah. I don't, I don't really know how to use TikTok. So I was just kind of taking a guess and I put it out there. I didn't know that people like it. And it was people, people enjoyed it.

People like laughing at Russ Wilson. Do you think he's doing a bit? Or he's really like that? No, he's a robot. Oh, he's really like that. Aaron, not like you in particular, but at the Pro Bowl,

do you think it's possibly that some players are still drunk when they're playing in the games? I would say more than likely, yeah. Yeah, it's just a big, it's like a big, it's a big celebration of what you've accomplished that year because it's fan voting, coaches voting, which is more impressive to me,

and then the players voting. These are people that are in your, and the top echelon of what you do in your profession. and they're giving you the honor of like, you're amongst the best of us. It's a really big honor. So you just celebrate the entire year. Your family's there. Usually your whole Pro Bowl check is spent on flying your family members out.

So I had like, you know, 10 people there. I spent on like 20 racks on playing tickets, something like that. So it was a good time. So now they're replacing it with a skills competition in Las Vegas, which I think players will probably just be more drunk at that since it's Vegas. Yeah. And did we ever find that what happened to Kamara? I think it's still like

pending in court I wonder what happened though Like was he He was charged with assault He actually got charged Yeah I think he's still like It's still going

Was that the one with the woman He showed up with the gun? No he got into an altercation With a guy at a casino Oh no I forget what about And then just kind of beat the shit out of him Allegedly

Probably Allegedly Oh, you know what else? Yo, so we got to talk about the Nord Stream, not Nord Stream. Yeah, so Billy was blowing up the group chat yesterday, sending us evidence. I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait. He's blown up the group chat, sending us evidence of, like, Joe Biden sending an underwater, like, demolition team to blow up the Nordstrom pipeline.

And Billy, you could tell it was like hot on the case because it had nothing to do with what we were talking about the group chat. But out of nowhere, we just get flooding. with all these tweets and like maps and shit and uh and like gas price speculation and you could tell that billy was really cooking on something so i want billy to to go on with his investigation and let the viewers know out there the listeners know too what's going on yo great idea new segment idea all the billy stands out there this is the let billy cook segment unfiltered unhindered fucking cook billy it's like to your thing yeah like let Russ Cook. Yo. So, um, Nord Stream. This is very pivotal to world politics because basically,

if you don't know what the Nord Stream is, it is a gas pipeline that is Russia's lifeline. It's the total reason why Russia has been able to maintain global, uh, hegemony, um, and fund their war in Ukraine currently. And it's because they have all of Europe hooked on Russian gas. And because of that, um, there's, um, there's. war has been very pivotal because basically all of Europe needs Russia's gas to stay warm in the winter winter is coming and Germany might have to switch to total nuclear energy because they no longer have gas being supplied by this pipeline. So Joe Biden two months ago says in February said we have ways to stop Nordstrom 2, which is the pipeline. He's on record saying that

Where'd you say that? He said that in a speech. Okay. I'm just going to question your sources online of this to make sure that we're... No, no, no, no, PFT. We'd let him build a cook. Okay, yeah, okay. He said that in a speech, you can find it.

Is that like Nordstrom rack? I know. I keep thinking I'm talking about Nordstrom rack. Yeah. Nordstrom. I was actually trying to explain this to someone last night at a concert. Nord Stream. And he thought I was saying that someone had blown up a Nordstrom.

talking about you having a geopolitical conversation with somebody last night well i was trying to explain to them what was going on and they were like what like you're at a bar yeah i was in a bar before going to a concert i saw zach brian last night great wait okay and you stay on topic i'll get to that in a second um but this gas pipeline is basically keeping russia alive in to be able to fund this war and it's in the u.s. is best interest to cut off this pipeline because it would weaken russia and europe does not want the pipeline cut because they need energy you know they don't they don't have energy independence a lot of these smaller states so they've kept the pipeline open so like we need this pipeline we can't switch to nuclear and you know all this stuff because a lot of their energy production especially with fossil fuels a lot of these european countries are much more stringent on the global warming, climate change stuff.

So they'll let Russia do their dirty work instead of doing it themselves. But with that, so U.S. once the pipeline shut down, pipeline mysteriously has an explosion and is leaking in the... Multiple explosions. Multiple explosions.

So I was digging into it and I was looking at some radio waves, like maps. So if someone else looked at, into it, but I was reading it. And basically, there was probably U.S. Navy ships that were there about two weeks ago. And the theory is, is that, you know, someone put in the order from the U.S. to basically blow up these pipelines. Because it's not Russia, Russia wouldn't do this. They've, the EU has established it wasn't an accident. And the U.S. may have sent like Navy

SEALs down there, which was their original, the Navy SEALs were developed to be underwater demolition teams. So there's a good chance Navy SEALs were sent to blow up this pipeline or a drone, drones, the other speculation. And the U.S. did it. But this is going to be, you know, this is very pivotal. This like could be a catalyst for World War III, low key. How? Because we basically just cut off Russia's lifeline. So they're pissed. Got it. So I'm reading about this. Bjorn Lund, who is the director of the national Swedish seismic network, said they are not earthquakes, they are not landslides underwater. It's very clear from the seismic record that these are blasts. Yeah. So there was definitely an explosion on there. My big question is, is the president of Finland okay?

I think so. Okay, good. The Minister of National Defense, the Poland's former Minister of National Defense just tweeted out a picture of the leaking gas and just said, thank you. You. USA. So this is, this is actually NATO is very fragile right now. That doesn't seem like a very smart idea to like publicly thank the United States and what was supposed to be potentially a secret mission. Yeah, well, he's, it was more tongue and cheek. I think that, so the person that tweeted out like thank you USA didn't know that the US did that. Right, but they're assuming, but they're assuming they're kind of like making a joke, but at the same time, they're probably telling the truth. But like in 30 years. A satirical accusation. Yeah. In 30 years.

we might look back on this and actually know the story that like a bunch of Navy SEALs went down in a submarine and blew up a fucking pipeline. It's like when I say, like, man, it looks like I've found all these pictures of Queen Elizabeth hanging out with Hillary Clinton and then next thing you know, she's dead, you know? I like make that as a joke, but it's like finding out that Hillary Clinton actually did go over there and slid her throat. Like we will probably never get a true answer on this, but I think we just did from Billy. I mean, I did. Well, there's a lot more, so... Did we or did we not blow up this pipeline? In your estimation.

I, Loki, think we did. So an expeditionary detachment of U.S. Navy ships led by the Universal Amphibious Assault ship USS Kier Sarge days ago was in the Baltic Sea. It was 30 kilometers from the site of the alleged sabotage on the Nord Stream 1 gas pipeline and 50 kilometers from the threads of Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. So they blew up both of them. Which is nuts. And there was several records of aircraft movement.

Finally, we need to pay attention to a June article in the sea power where the Americans brag about experiments in the field of underwater drones, which they put on exercises, ball tops 22, just in the area of the island of Braunholm. I was going to ask you about that, about the underwater drone situation. Because when you said drone, I was thinking like some of that flies to the air. But I feel like having a submarine that, has demolition capabilities on it would be pretty we find a lot of uses for that

they probably kamikaze the thing so that there's no record of it as here's one thing to worry about though billy as as the future of the military becomes more technologically dependent right are we going to just have no use for like jacked up super soldiers anymore and really the best soldiers in the world will be the biggest nerds that are just really good at computers yeah that's gonna happen or like people that are really good do you think

the United States military is investing in Twitch to develop the best, like, video game players of all time using their hand-eye coordination to turn them into different pilots. I mean, was call of duty booming in quarantine just a secret way to train men to be good at video games and get everyone into video games so that they control drones? Possibly. Like, is that their way of, you know, training the population? I'd say possible. And mobilizing?

Hmm. Yeah. no but I mean the thing about drones is like if they have these drones and let's say they connect them to AI they're not going to be merciful humanity will be totally like devoid so like can you try a robot for war crimes that's probably going to be our next question no but you can try the person that programmed the robot what if it's AI if the AI wrote its own script yeah who knows uh I don't know that's it's actually it's actually pretty crazy the amount of U.S. naval um like positioning before these blasts and right now in front of Calingrad I was doing some research

by the way you keep going but I did Calenyngrad yeah there's currently a U.S. naval ship right in front of it so Calingrad's a very wait Kalenigrad that's the it's a fascinating place because it's Russia but it's not connected to Russia at all so it's like a little island not an island but it's it's surrounded by other countries that aren't Russia but it's still Russian property yeah it's because they have a huge uh naval port yeah russia's obsessed with ports that's like been their host like that's why they're in the uh donbos in crime yeah they love ports they love ports they just love warm water ports and actually they're rooting for global warming because then their whole northern shore is going to become more habitable and more

strategic so they're they're pumped they're all about warming it up but yeah crazy so Joe, in the thing, like, let me find the speech. Joe Biden, we have ways of stopping. It's actually, I mean, this is history playing out in real time. They're going to be teaching this in history books. Like when they blew up Nordstrom. It's just a pivotal moment. It's crazy that not that many people know about it.

Yeah. Hmm. Hmm. Interesting. So I was doing some research. I was doing some research the other day. and I saw that the U.S. is planning its next generation of fighter planes. So right now we've got like the F-22 and we've got the F-35. Those are kind of our big ones. And the next one that we're going to have planned is going to be a little bit bigger,

but instead of missiles, and it will have missiles. But in addition to missiles, it's going to have smaller planes that drop out of it that are unmanned drones that are connected via data link to the main airplane. And so it can, like, serve as, they can go out there and actually, like, acquire targets, shoot missiles, attack ground targets and stuff. And the pilot on board, the main ship can control those drones that are out in the sky. That's true. So the range on it is going to be just insane. So the pilot's going to sit, like, 100,000 feet in the air and just let those little planes do all the bombing and then avoid the fighter pilot from getting hit.

Well, at that point, like, why don't you, like, if the pilot's controlling it, why don't they just get rid of the pilot? and just had the pilot somewhere else just make the F-18 a drone I don't know I mean we're probably looking into that because the fewer people we can have up in the sky the better just makes sense

so Big T let's talk because your voice is a little bit better so what are you teed off about this week Big T? Oh Did you see Eric Adams yesterday?

I did not. Oh, you didn't see this? I saw, wait, I saw one thing that he said about the brand. Okay, yeah, go ahead. Yeah, so he was talking about New York. I don't know what the whole speech was about, but he goes, you know, New York City has a brand. Kansas doesn't have a brand.

First of all, just that's such a typical New York thing to say that like anywhere else in the country, like why would you ever want to live there where it's affordable, nice the people are nice like yeah there's there's no brand there the brand of new york city pal i don't know if if you've gone around the country and talk to people what they think about new york it's disgusting um it's horribly expensive it's ineffective the everything runs poorly there's crime new york city sucks that's its brand it's a dirty shithole i i hate eric adams he's the woe we somehow we may have downgraded from Bill de Blasio. Wow. He's that bad. He seems to be. I like him more than

de Blasio. I think they're all, I mean, you went from one trash can to another. Okay. So do you think that the national brand of New York City is, I get the the trashiness. I get the stinkiness. I don't think that everyone thinks it's a crime rid in hell hole, though. Like, New York also has, I guess there are two sides to the coin, to the brand that is New York. One is you have the shit everywhere. The city smells like pee. It's super expensive.

It's dirty. And everyone's in a hurry. Everyone's mean. Then on the other side of that coin, you also have the whole, like, it's the financial center of America. It's the business center of America. It's one of the two entertainment centers of America. where people go and they become stars after they move there,

whether that's television, movies, et cetera, et cetera. So it still has that big, like, I'll put that in the city of dreams category. There is still like the city of dreams where people grow up wanting and dreaming about moving to New York City. I personally never did. And then you get here. I don't understand why somebody would grow up dreaming about that,

but I do know that it happens. Then you get here and then reality sets and you're like, wow, I live in a shoebox. But I think that's what a, he's not he's not wrong because that's that's kind of what a brand is it's like what the perception of said product is not necessarily what it actually is yeah so like being an outsider new york is branded as like the business like i don't think of it as it's also like a tell of another two america's thing i don't really think of it as like a dirty hellhole crime

ridden i think of it as like it's the birth of hip-hop and so it's like a lot of culture comes from New York like the five boroughs five different boroughs so much culture comes from there and I don't I have I have nothing but good feelings every time I would never live there but like I love to visit like I love it's also sort of the birthplace of America

I mean like so many immigrants came through here and as someone from New York like we're kind of allowed to shit on New York and we all shit on New York but like we all love New York but we're not allowed to yeah

But Big T's not allowed to Yeah Don't shit on New York Why? No I mean you live here I pay exorbitantly High taxes And nothing ever gets fixed

But like there's so many parts In New York that you love But you just don't realize Like you can go to a bodega And get like everything's easily walking distance Convenient stores exist elsewhere I know but you have to drive everywhere It's one of the best walking cities

It's like probably one of the close It's a horrible selling point for New York City It's probably one of the closest Also everything in a bodega is $8.000 It's probably the close That's another culture thing Bodegas are dope Yeah

Because you don't get them you don't get them On the West Coast is entirely different Everything's so spread out And everything being so close together over there It's like a really unique experience in America Because the majority of America It shouldn't be spread out Like there's everything here

There's every type of food you possibly could want There's all types of people You know if you like It has some of the best dating scenes Like for those people who are in inclined like it's it's honestly a beautiful place like you can go to chinatown then take a block over then you're in little idly and it's like oh man you could you get like such a global experience from one city yes there's crime but you know darwinism you got to deal with it's crime it's crime

everywhere bray yeah and uh i do love new york and there's gold underneath wall street yep tons of national treasure yep and kansas kansas to you know to eric adams detriment Kansas does have a brand. When I think of Kansas, Wizard of Oz. Rolling Plains of Corn. That was the other part too. He was just like shitting on the rest of the country.

Like New York is this awesome place. And like, sure, are there redeeming qualities about it? Fine. There are other places in the country that are good and much better than New York. And it's just like this attitude that anywhere in the middle of the country is like, why would anyone want to be there? Yeah, people from New York, a lot of them sometimes have a, a complex where they think, okay, my life matters because I'm in New York City and thank God

I'm here or not in the rest of the country. Like they get very, they have blinders on and they don't think that any other place matters. I went to school with a lot of people like that. And I think, no, I think Billy's right about New York having redeeming qualities, but Eric Adams is making it seem like this is a great place and everything's rainbows and fairy tales. I think Eric Adams is right about New York having a brand. They've got a very specific brand. Big T. Okay, everyone's right. Hey, everyone. We're all right in a certain way. Big T's right. that the actuality of New York to a lot of people

is not the same as the bill of goods that they were sold and there's a lot of shitty parts to it. There are also some good parts that now I understand like I get why people like New York. I don't necessarily love it, but I understand why some people do

because I finally lived here long enough to be able to appreciate it a little bit and not be pissed off all the time. But Big T's right that the actuality of what is like in New York is dog shit sometimes. Eric Adams is right that New York has a strong brand and their brand is still to a certain extent

the city of dreams that people grow up with stars in their eyes oh I want to make it in the big city the big apple that's where I want to be that brand still exists and also Avery's right and Billy's right that the rest of the country gets shit on all the time by New York for no good reason whatsoever

because the rest of the country's great the rest of the country's awesome like there are other cities besides New York that count as big city life There's people that don't want to live in cities They live out in the country They have a great life too And a lot of times the people in New York They're like if you don't do it in New York

It doesn't count They have that mindset It's New York or nowhere Yeah exactly which is such bullshit You know what's my favorite part about New York People say The dating scene Everyone's like everyone from New York sucks

No but that's a selling point That is a selling point I would fucking yeah There's a great ratio here That's facts It sucks It sucks Yeah, um, there, it's like a four to one, uh, college educated female to male.

Damn. Which like a lot of girls, like I read an op-ed complaint. Yeah, I read an op-ed about some girl complaining about it. And it's like, well, then it was like, you know, you're the asshole because you won't date a dude who doesn't have a college degree. So like that's your own. I don't think that's an issue. Like, but that's what her article was about. Like all the finance bros.

Yeah, but. Uh, I see four to three. Four to three. that's okay it's something like that's still a good ratio um but uh where was i oh yeah so someone said like oh everyone from new yorks like mean like new yorkers are mean but like new yorkers are like will say mean like it's like a guy's changing your tire while like calling you an idiot but like he's changing your tire and they're not nice they're kind yeah like new yorkers will do nice things but be like you know don't fucking talk to me ever again yeah but like whereas like west

coasters like there's a diagram where it was like like like seems mean but acts mean but is nice is like the northeast like New York and then like the west is axe night the west coast is axe nice but is mean and then I think south

axe nice is nice yeah South ax nice is nice for the most part yeah there's some mean people in the south southern hospitality I feel like if you're mean

it really mean in the south yeah big to you know more than most like there's some there's some real dickheads down there yeah uh i would say most people in the south are nice i mean living here and living in the south people in the south are definitely nicer there's some there's a lot of acts nice but hates you in the south too that's that's correct yeah but i think that's everywhere except for new york you don't get a lot of people that act nice but hate your guts up here in the midwest a ton of it yeah yeah west coast you get a lot of

phonies, but it's a different type of acts nice, but hates you out west. Out west, it's like they- Social climbers. Yeah, social climbers at West. In the Midwest, it's more like acting nice because you're taught to always just say nice things to people. Midwest is made by a lot of silent haters, of which I am one. Yeah, the silent haters are strong. Out West, it's like, I'm going to suck your dick because I'm supposed to and you're really famous. So I'm going to, I'm going to get on board and tell you you were a star but actually behind the scenes talk shit to you all the time yeah when when we went to L.A that was my first time like experiencing L.A and it was so weird like going to the like the bar that all the Ticktokers were at just like from a like anthropological standpoint like

seeing these people like act in like the wild was crazy like it was act in the wild like it was act in the wild like seeing Ticktokers like at the TikTok bar like what they're doing was weird it was like there's an there's an actual ticot bar yeah it's a bar they all go to because they're all under 21 but it's like a bar and family restaurant so you don't need to like id the kids going in there so that's why they all go to this one bar like the saddle ranch yeah yeah so i was in there and just like seeing what because we had a event there and it was i mean kind of like disgusting it was it was whack uh before we get into the rest of show have some very important news from very important sponsor game time is here and they're going

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up um i had a 720 tea time it was so beautiful and it's like it's starting to get to that point in houston where it's like fall and so it's like cool outside still hot as shit but it's still like it's very bearable and so playing golf is really really fun right now that's awesome i i started to get the golf bug and then i just started to get hurt and so i couldn't continue to do it but golf is so fun it's it's just it's nice to just get outside for a little bit it's a good excuse to be outside especially when you don't have anything else pulling you outside yeah and if it's like frisbee golf it doesn't matter what it is just the fact that you get to stand outside for three hours that's usually worth it we gotta get also uh the last time i played i was uh i was playing with this guy

this older cat and he was walking the course and i was in a golf court and he was like that's just way better when you walk it and i was like you got to walk the hill he's like you get to feel the course better you play better it's just a better experience so this last time i i I was like, oh, fuck, I'll try to walk it. So I walked it. I'm never riding a card again unless I have to. Walking is so much more fun. It's just changes the game.

It really like zends you out. Like you could bring your own little Bluetooth speaker. And it really makes you concentrate on your shots more, too. It makes you play better, in my opinion. I can see that because if you're in a card, it's somewhat, you're hitting the fast forward button on life. And if you're walking, it's like, okay, you, it actually discourages you,

from hitting really bad shots because you have to walk all the way over to it and that's annoying. Well, yeah. But also, I think if you're playing good, you play way faster as well. That's just my opinion. I might have to give that try,

but I am very lazy. Walking is high key, so good for you. It is. Yeah. I mean, that's what the guy that walked across Antarctica had to say, right? Hot girl walks. What's a hot girl walk?

It's just a walk, but you do it at like more of a brisk speed. Do hot girls walk faster? Yeah It's got a little sway to it Got a little sway to it And you kind of got a dress for it It's there's a dress code involved

For a hot girl walk Is this a TikTok thing? No, no this is Yeah, it's a girl thing It's hot girl I mean this is hot girl This is the ops of the city boys Okay

Yeah So these city boys that have these college degrees That Billy was talking about Go for the girls that go in hot girl walks Are you just talking about an attractive woman That's walking? Yeah pretty much It's like an energy though

It's a new thing. But it's an energy thing. Big T does. My girlfriend and I go on S.WV. HGW. Sunday West Village hot girl walks. So Big T goes on hot girl walks. Yeah. No, it's an energy.

It's a state of mind. Okay. So Big T, walk me through what a big tea hot girl walk is. Big energy. Give us a little hot girl walk. It's not like a, and you don't walk differently. It's just an attitude. Like, you walk to the water.

You go on the piers. Like I'm hot shit. Yeah. It's a scenery walk. It's an attitude. Okay. So are you looking at the scenery around you like with a note of disdain like you're better than that?

No. No, no, no. You're taking it in. Yeah. No, it's the exact opposite. It's, you know, trying to catch eyes. Trying to get people to look at you kind of. Are you thinking yourself like everyone's, everyone's checking me out?

Like you pretend you're the main character. I don't do that. Okay. You're pretending you're the main character. Right. Yeah. You wear an exercise dress. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I've got plenty of those. I'm going to be honest. I just walk. But it's something you call it. What the fuck is an exercise dress? It's a dress. Like a tennis.

A tennis dress and it has shorts on. Okay, yeah, I've seen those. Yeah, yeah. But you wear your Lulu lemon belt bag. So you wear like a fanny pack and then you wear exercise dress and you wear your hokas and you walk. Okay. Yeah, I walk with my dog.

Doesn't really give off the hot girl walk energy. But it's not what you give off. It's how you, it's just, it's a feeling. I walk my dog and I give off that energy. I'll go on Hot Girl walks for like five miles at night. Five miles? Yeah, I walk for like two hours. Pet Talk's just wandering around this.

Pretty much. I'll go, I'll go anywhere. I'll just go up and down the same streets over and over again. She's wandering around. Yeah, like that's what I would do last year before I could afford a gym membership. I would just walk for hours on end. And that's actually, it's a good hack. It's like you don't need a gym membership to stay in shape.

Just walk a ton. You can just walk everywhere you go. And it was a really good way. I just moved here. It was a really great way. to get you know the city. Yeah, I think that that's why, for the most part, people on college campuses tend to be in pretty good shape overall compared to the rest of the world.

What did y'all think of walking in Knoxville? It was great. A lot of hills. Yeah. It was just nice to be outside. I just need an excuse sometimes. My thing is, I need to be forced to be outside and walking. A hocker walk is a great way to do that.

Whether if I just have to, like, label it as a hocker walk, because I could walk to work every day if I wanted to. But then I get lazy, and I'm like, I could just call a lift. and that shows up, and then I'm here in, you know, seven minutes. If I, if I force myself to go outside, whether that's by going to play golf, whether that's just being on a hot girl walk, it sounds like I could just tell myself it's a hot girl walk. And then that makes walking more pleasurable.

Yep, totally. Put on a podcast or a book. Yeah. So, okay, so hot girl walk is just walking, but you're telling yourself that it's something, like, it's something cool. Nice weather. This is great weather for a hot girl walk. Yeah.

Yeah. I always go at night, which is not probably smart for me, but I go at night. She carry Mace. No comment. But I like to walk away. That's a no. No, no, she carries Mace. Yeah.

And a gun. No, not in New York. Don't, yeah. No, she carries a gun. She's got gun. Don't go near her. She has a knife. And she's always streaming from a GoPro.

Yep. When she's walking. But you, you, you, it's. It's a mind. The hot girl walk is a mindset. But boys can go on hot girl walks. Girls can go on hot girl walks. Anyone can go on a hot girl walk. It's a state of mind. Maybe call your mom. Okay.

You maybe call your dad. Do whatever you want. But it's a nice way to get things done. It's a hot girl walk. Or I'll post. I'll do some work while I'm on my walks. Again, you're just describing walking. But Big T, back me up. Yeah, it's an energy. You'll know it.

It's like how the Supreme Court defined obscenity. You know it when you see it. You'll know a hawk or walk when you feel it. Okay, when I'm in that zone. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to do a hot girl walk. That's my resolution for this week.

I'll go on a hot girl walk. Come with me on Sunday. I'll show you how to do it. I don't know if I, like that feels kind of weird, both hot girl walking at the same time. But that, you'll be so much better at than I'll give you a feel for it. No, but you're just going to dominate. I'll let you feel me. No, you're going to dominate me in the hot girl walk because you have so much more experience.

I'm just going to be doing, I'm going to be doing this second fiddle fat friend walk. I do a fast. And I do a fast walking mile. Like I've gotten, I've shaved two minutes off of my miles since, since doing this. Damn, all right. I do need to get back in the gym because I, uh, I went to the doctor yesterday, not to brag, uh, but I have insurance. And so they put me on the scale, put me on the scale and they weighed me. And that's the worst.

I was, yeah, I was heavy. I was back to being heavy again, even though I got what you, what you at, what you at? Spilled a beans. I'm, I'm back. You could join me and Billy with, uh, Christmas apps. yeah hashtag christmas i'm back up to 192 that's so funny because it's just like what's your playing weight yeah

my playing weight i would like to get down to 170 i'm about 21st do it come on christmas zap let's go yeah hold each other accountable i haven't been doing my soup and salad i've got my strategy which is soup and salad during the week can i be on that with you yes and that that usually works for me i just do soup and salad every day and then on weekends i just do whatever i want that kind of got all screwed up because of knoxville and there was another trip that got thrown in there too and you party a little bit too much you eat like shit and now i'm back to being 21 pounds of roy now i was shocked when i when i was talking

to avery earlier aviary i hope i don't i hope you don't mind me bring this up go ahead can you toss me one of those gummy shot energy things there's nothing left in mother fucker Hank took all of it yeah Hank's sick fucking bitch yeah uh shit that's all i want it's just some energy i have no sympathy for sick people i know bill okay okay We know The fuck The billy's made that Very clear over the past two years

So Takes a vitamin D I was talking to Avery before we started recording today And I You know we were talking about Getting in shape All that stuff

And Avery mentioned How much he weighed And I was shocked I was shocked Because you carry it well You're not a You're not How tall are you?

511 And I thought To be honest What? Way to be honest Oh yeah, yeah I'm not gonna stand six foot I would have guessed

that you were like 185 pounds No How much do you think Every way is Aaron Let me see Standing in front of the camera I gotta gauge it

See front and back I do gotta see front How is she weighing Well he's not Don't tell me He's about that That's the whole point of him Get Jesus

Bill Let me see Do a little spin All right Let me see Lift up the shirt No, no, no, you don't you just have to look at them. So I thought, I can't, there's a whole section under clothing.

I can't see. That's the whole point, though, that he carries it. What do you say? I guess like 195. 1995, big TV. I mean, I'm guessing it's higher. It's obviously higher than 185. I don't know.

200. Okay. Any more guesses? No. I'm not going to guessing man late. I weighed in at 210 yesterday. I could believe that. I don't

I want to I don't see it I don't see it I don't see it you carry it very well it's in his it's in his midsection most of it

I would guarantee 100% he's not thick you don't really have much thighs upper body's kind of lacking so it's probably more

midsection which is the easiest shit to to damn right it's the last lose but it's the easiest

shit to lose yep working on that we're hovering around 230 yeah you are fat like you're not even aver you wear

it well like you you wear it like shit I can tell when Billy's had like a big meal he comes to the office and he just smells different and his body's like a different color your blood like tries to escape your fat and just like runs to the outside of your skin and it's like get me the

fuck out of you in a mess damn no no disrespect I'm just saying no disrespect I'm saying it's different when Billy's fat than it is you're a fucking bag of milk I benched press more than you do No, you don't

Bag of milk Toss up 275 Dude That's so mean Dark track reference I did Ugly bags of mostly water My checkies out there

I'll get that I did uh I did squat Heavy for the first time In a long time last week That's how you lose fucking weight Yeah but now with rib injury

I don't know I don't know if I can squat again I've been playing a lot of bad I think I'm just gonna I mean I go on run It's more just consumption. The issue is when I started traveling for work, like I stopped now, obviously, because the podcast has been getting very big, which is great.

But when I travel with like four play and chicklets, it's just like, we're just eating nonstop. And it's not good stuff. Yeah. It's like week long trips of just eating like crap. I still eat like I'm trying to put on weight. Like for some reason in my head, I'm like, oh, I got to eat so much. But I don't.

Based on what I know about you guys, it seems like the weekends are your killers. Yeah, but really. But that's everyone's killers. My weekend is only Friday night, Saturday during the day. But don't you eat a ton of maybe not of the healthiest stuff on Sundays during the games? Sometimes. Sunday's a bad day. Here's a life hack, dog.

And you probably heard it before, but it's portion sizes and you're not drinking. water while you're eating right to make you to convince your body that you are fuller but also we eat for the wrong reasons in this in this society we eat for a lot of times on social gatherings and just to feel better because there are some effects of some of the foods that we eat that are like a drug so literally endorphins release when you eat some of the foods that we eat and so when you start to train yourself to eat differently and for different reasons. So if you think, okay, I'm eating because my body needs energy rather than I'm eating because I'm hungry or ooh, that looks like it's good or ooh, that tastes good.

It changes your mindset. Like, actually, I had to trick myself and train myself into I'm not eating to feel good. I'm eating to fuel my body so that it has energy. And then after a while I'm doing that, really it's like after a month, if you change the way you eat the other food starts to taste nasty to me like you can taste the grease you can taste the bitterness but again it's a it's a balancing next you don't want to be a it's it's it's hard in society every every major event sporting birthdays holidays it's all centered around what dish you have and it's usually a bad dish yeah i i think i think you're right i think that our attitude

towards health usually has nothing to do with its nutritional value. I think when I'm at my best, if I'm losing weight, if I'm staying disciplined, I just think of all food as like medicine. I completely disassociate food from being something that I get enjoyment out of. I associate food as something, I associate it with any other item that I would be putting into my body just to make my body feel better or to make my, to improve myself. And so if you can do that, then then you can, you can accomplish things. But the problem is sometimes it's like, I just really want that fucking cheese steak, you know? You know, feels good to be bad.

That's what happens sometimes, you know? Like it actually, I think to myself, like it would feel so good to be so bad right now and eat this cheese steak. And it is bad. And then afterwards. And right after you eat it, you're like, fuck, I shouldn't have done that. Yeah, right after. And every single time, it's like touching the shocking buzzer to get the cheese.

If you're a mouse, I eat the cheese steaks and I, you know what I need to do? I just, one cheat day week. I just need to stick to one cheat day a week. You know, that is a good way to gauge it. Do you know that peasants only worked 150 days a year? Like medieval peasants. I don't know that. It's probably why they were poor.

Yeah. Oh, geez. They didn't have a grind set. Yeah, that's true. They didn't have that mentality. No, because a lot of our dietary eating habits. They were working in the mill. Didn't think about getting up early to try that side hustle out.

Like maybe catch a couple of fish on your own. They didn't try to make a single podcast. They didn't. They weren't reselling shit on Amazon. That's what Gary V says to do. Yeah. Maybe they should have invented NFTs. They just didn't have the right mentality.

They had a no mentality. No, I saw. Not a yes mentality. I saw, but the thing is they were like, oh, you know, medieval, feudal. peasants only worked 150 days a year and you're working more than a peasant but what they don't also recognize

is that that was their work where they were like harvesting or working for the lord the lord of the castle or whatever but they still had to like wake up and like milk the cow they still had like they had other responsibilities that they didn't even consider working

that was part of their everyday routine and a lot of it was maintaining their farm around them so they worked actually 365 days a year It just wasn't called work It weren't like clocking in It was like one of their chores It's like their entire life

Was their side hustle Yeah like living back then Was so much more work Than we do today Do you think that right now Where we are right now I'm talking The year 22 in September

Is this the best time to ever be alive? Yeah Every minute Like tomorrow will be the best time Like the day after that Yeah but what if World War III happened Yeah you don't think that like Last September was better than this

No So Joe Biden's doing a great job No What a setup I love it No you know why Because I think there No I'm kidding about that Because obviously Joe Biden's a sack of dog shit

But I do think that I don't think it's necessarily the right thing to say That 2020 Is better It's not necessarily better to be alive right now Than it was I don't know Three four five Like five years ago

Was it better to be alive then than it is right now before COVID I'd say probably well you know true the thing is are we atrophying because life is so easy now like are we atrophying

did earth fall off are we in our father oh we need to talk about that meteorite I feel like earth jumped a shark in like 20 right around 2016 yeah same earth totally summer 16 best time yes best year yeah that was

insane. That's what I jumped a shark and then fell off big time after that. We all hate each other now and there was a fucking pandemic that shut everything down for two years, made everybody depressed and killed millions of people. That kind of sucks. And now we're still like living in the aftermath of that. Football is barely back. We're still amazed at seeing crowds. Sometimes people are getting panicked when they go to large venues and they're around all these people because they've had two years of being conditioned. Now we've got kids that are going to be growing up through the school system. that are used to seeing everybody in a mask and they're going to get freaked out because they're not able to properly gauge body language or facial reactions to things that's going to be their

normal then they're going to grow up and raise some fucked up kids after that and then next thing you know uh we're all going to be dead so i'd say 2016 that was peak earth baby peak earth Do you think something Do you think that when they set off the first C-E-R-N The CERN Collider? I think that's when I think so.

I think everything else has been in a simulation. Starting to get weird. I think when Drake released Kiki, do you love me? That's one of it's one of stop. That was the peak of civilization. I'd say, you know what? I mean, let's be honest, guys.

I can point the finger at myself when part of my take debuted. Yeah. That's probably exactly when Earth started to get worse. Part of my take is the simulation that we're living in. Part of my take debuted March 1st, 2016. Everything after that sucked.

I think actually... Harambe died, everything. But summer 16 was good. Was it? Summer 16 was awesome. Yeah, it was cool. But maybe that's like part of my take nudged the entire planet into this hedonistic mindset and lifestyle. We had a great time in 2016.

Then everything after that summer has been the consequences of our actions. No, but you know what? I don't like to think that way. Everything's getting better. Every, like, you can't think that. What was summer 16? Did I miss something? Why was that so dope?

Drake wrote a song about it. So people say that like summer 16 was incredible. They did the same shit that they did every year. No, but that was the exact same. I like summer 16 me personally because I was 17. Um, it was high school. It would, there wasn't that much. I think it was the.

No, I like summer 17. that was so that was going into your freshman year of college yeah because you had no real responsibilities i mean you can't use you as like a worldly experience you're talking about yourself but that's what people do what do you mean like not everyone was going into their freshman year of college like you and i were yeah some people had responsibilities just living his normal life i was in new york i did go on a sick vacation 2017 i think it's literally just the drags i would say the best summer of all time is the summer of 2003 because that's like you were leaving high school you were getting ready to go into college you

didn't really have that many responsibilities well i didn't know we were referencing a drake's song i just thought we were like that was a eventful summer for me as well i do think that there's a strong probability that the that something happened in 2016 yeah should we let's look up first cern i think that's what was actually so not i'd have to go with 17 though because that was my first summer ever like every summer my entire life always been like a training camp or some type of football preparation and so like that was the first time i ever had like a real summer i was hype that must be incredible it was dope you don't have to worry about two a days all that shit it was dope did you ever regret retiring were you ever like you know what i

kind of miss i kind of miss the game i have never had that regret I'm extremely happy with what I've accomplished and the people I've met been dope. So, been very fortunate to have a good life. If you were to get put back into an NFL game right now, Aaron, let's say fourth quarter of a blowout, your team is, your team is losing in the fourth quarter of a blowout. So the other team probably has their backups in and they call like two draws to you. How many yards are you getting? Oh, man. It just depends on the blocking.

Depends on how to gain. If they're a draw and it's a blowout, probably not going to get too many yards, man, because I don't know. They're probably expecting to run the clock out. What's your game plan? Just like go forward a couple steps and then slide? No, it's not.

It's in there. It's just, you know, probably don't move like I used to. Do you have that dog in here? I should don't die You know what I mean He just sits in his house now And he has a He has a Wagyu steak

He's chewing on When he needs to come out He comes back out What do you think Your 40 is right now Oh I couldn't even That wasn't that You still break five though

Yeah Yeah come on That's slow Okay That's like that's like linemen stuff I can be the linemen Like slow linemen I know some fast

Yeah I mean I they've gotten faster too yeah um so we have a special segment coming up here first podcast ever recorded from a waffle house i got some shit from uh from the long brothers chris and jake and well they're pretty they're pissed off because i guess chris recorded part of a podcast from a waffle house because he had to do the fancy football punishment where you spend like an entire day in a waffle house and uh i was not a aware of that. I didn't know that Chris recorded anything from that from that Waffle House or maybe I did at one point. I forgot about that. But it wasn't my idea. This is Billy's idea to do the podcast from the Waffle House. So unless Billy was stealing it from Chris Long. Billy, were you stealing it from Chris Long? No, I didn't even know he recorded. I thought it was a video he did in there. Okay. Oh, I didn't even know that there was a video. I know about the video. Okay. So we did a, we did a, we sat at the table and did a podcast. We sat down to the podcast. It was different. We ate grits. You ate grits. multiple grits I want a beerbong grits shotgun grits can we do that sure you can yeah knock yourself out you can do whatever you want bill

you're grown up now I'm going to go to a waffle with a beerbong just to be like that was actually discussion that was actually discussion that that was actually discussion that me so me Billy and PFT all got in together for the trip and Billy was kind of all antsy about like what were we going to do on the trip? Like, what's our schedule?

And we're like, Billy, you're an adult. You can do whatever you want. Well, I was trying to figure out like what we, what we had to do. Okay, let me run that to the Billy translator. Look, yaggy, look, yaggy, look, y'i, look, y'i, look. That's how the translator goes when I'm putting the data into it. And then at the other end, I get Billy wanted to know exactly what our plans were because he wanted to know when he could start drinking.

and if there was anything that he would need to do later in the day that would be negative affected by his drinking. So he was trying to gauge that perfect time. I was being so responsible. You're trying to gauge the perfect time to crack your first cocktail. And we ended up talking through it and we set up the rest of the day. And it was a fun trip and we got a lot of stuff done. And you were also able to have a couple beers.

But that's when Billy's asking. I was trying to figure out what it was a work trip. I was trying to figure out what we were doing. Because when it's very open-ended, I was trying to make plans. It's okay to just say, yeah, you're right. That's what I was doing, and I was trying to not drink. I know what you're making it sound like I was very, okay, never mind. You were good, Billy.

You did everything that you had to. So we have a podcast that was recorded inside of a waffle house. And it was recorded at about 1.30 a.m. Yeah. On Friday night, Saturday morning. It was a full waffle house. And we sat down, had a great meal, brought the microphones out. And we got into some stuff, some real stuff, because that's where dudes bond.

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chee.com and experience cannabis perfected now. Must be 21 to purchase. We love Three Chi. I'm not a drug guy, but I am a Three Chi guy. Go to 3Ghee.com. Use promo code Stool 5. So my question was, seeing Big T so happy at the facility. Right. Does it change your perspective on playing for Tennessee, for the volunteers, of how much joy you brought to people?

It means a lot to a lot of people. Like Big T. How much they loved you guys and love the program. It's a good question. Does it change your perspective on your whole time at your team? That's a great question. It is an amazing question. All right.

So I'm going to say this. I called my mother after I left the facility, the practice facility when I first visited. Because I've had a lot of issues with the University of Tennessee. More, as it wasn't necessarily, the university and the people involved, it was more so the institution. And I had issues with the way things were run. and long story short I called my mother today

after I came back I haven't been back in 10 years and I was emotional the reason why I was emotional was because when I was here I was a young kid and I was talking to my boys about this tonight

I was a young kid like when I grew up like when your mother looks at you in your eyes and say yo there's no food tonight that's a real feeling you know I felt that a lot with growing up gunshots hearing gunshots growing up

grow up in that environment and they come in here and fighting for your future and having you feel like adults are hindering that future it's one of the most frustrating things that you can have like yo y'all supposed to be

guiding me but you're fucking me and so you feel like the world is against you and so coming back long story short coming back, having all of that animosity and all of those feelings and coming back feeling like I did it anyway, there's so many people, and I'm getting emotional now, but there's so many people that show me so much love, but I got overwhelmed. I was talking about the training staff.

I had 30-minute conversations with the head trainer that I used to talk to every day. The administrators, the equipment managers, all these cats I haven't seen in two. 20 years coming back got me so emotional and so grateful for the time that I spent that any animosity that I had is just gone and it was like a really awake at a moment for me because it was like when you come from nothing like I came from nothing and when you have what I have now you appreciate everything and it's seeing that juxtaposition from

when I was here and I didn't have anything and I was struggling and I like there's an ongoing joke with a lot of Tennessee fans where it was like when we was broke and we we told a coach like yo we was going to go do something stupid if you don't get us some food he came and brought us tacos so there's like a taco

joke's going on so from coming from something like but we was really out here grinding and had nothing to what I have now and coming back to see the love that these people show it just warmed my heart and warmed my spirit

and I was in a place where I was like when this nigga was petting smoky yeah I was scratching his ear and you can cut to that but when he was petting that dog

and I still don't fuck with dogs but I was under the tent looking at, it's Circle Park, right? It's what called Circle Park. I was under the tent on the grass, and I was looking at the place where I used to go to class. I used to walk every day. You used to take the T, the hill to all my other classes.

I was just looking like, like, bro, I really did what I set out to do when I was seven years old. I almost cried. It's pretty good. I almost cried. And that was a great fucking question, my Jew. It's pretty good. It was a great fucking question.

Good job, Bill. And, like, there's a little. lot of stuff that goes into playing college sports in America when they're making millions of dollars and the players for a long time weren't making anything at all and I can understand how you were feeling like any time that there was a setback it was somebody standing in between you and your goal at the end of the day like it ended up working out pretty well for you which is great but it's not I'm not saying like it's because no no no all the setbacks No, the realization I had was this was, let's say a coach says,

okay, you're not playing in front of this guy. We're choosing him now. In your mind, my dream has ended. You feel me? Yeah. And so that, and not understand, I mean, growing up with the emotional toll that I grew up with, I wasn't equipped to handle those emotions at that age, so that turned into anger and rage.

And I directed at the wrong people. And so coming back, what I really saw was the shit that I accomplished, the people that was here and saw that struggle were proud of me. You feel me? And that shit changed. Oh, fuck. My dog, give him a hug. No, but shit, it changed my perspective of the entire,

my entire experience here because that's real, dog. I've seen people I know for 20 years come up to me like proud of you. That shit crazy. Fuck. I get it. And I know that

it's tough to do that. I know I had an emotional time. Today I had an emotional ass moment. Like I said, I called my mom and I was crying on the fuck. I was saying, I call my, I called, keep going to continue to get into school, water on my penis. No, I called my mom. I was like crying on the phone. I didn't understand why I was so emotional, but, um, I went through therapy a lot of times, like, in my letter years, like, when I was in NFL.

And I realized all of the, all of the emotions that I blocked out, all of the emotions that I blocked out, um, was like, a self-defense mechanism. But what I didn't realize was you don't get to be, you don't get to pick and choose the emotions that come in. And so the negative emotions that I was protecting myself from, I was also avoiding myself from the positive emotions that people

were trying to show me, feel me? And so that was the realization they had the day. And so it was so emotional. You know what's crazy is? and I appreciate you saying all this stuff because I know it's it's tough sometimes to like dive into that and to feel that way it is

what's crazy is like I guarantee you there's some people that are actually listening to Macrodose right now that are thinking about like what they're dealing with growing up and relating to what you're saying whether it's whether it's athletics or whether it's maybe they're into art

or they're into any other specific point of interest that they have that are identifying with what you're saying and that are loving it. So, that's cool, man. Thank you. I think the main thing is, like, the shit that I love

on, all that is, like, you know, never be too cool to feel. You know what I mean? Because people care. And if you and if you block them out,

you don't get to feel that I've seen so many people show you love here on campus and I'm happy for you man it really am I was a wild experience because like in my head I'm like you're gonna make it hate me but it's like when you come back and you see all these people show you so much love it's like damn I get it there's a lot of love out there yeah yeah one thing nobody really talks about though when it comes to the economy like why are we why do we always measure the economy based on how the stock market's doing because the stock market is not the economy it's a relative indicator gddp it's kind of completely separated though because like it's how we measure it yeah but why well it's kind of ridiculous that the GDP is the indicator

of a country's well-being just because economically and the stock market does represent a lot of GDP yeah but it's how businesses are doing how some businesses are doing how like big businesses but just because big businesses are doing great doesn't mean that people are doing great right in fact that's the whole juxtaposition in fact there's probably like some inverse relationship to that to a certain extent like if uh if walmart is doing great right that means that they're probably figuring out a way to cut back on every cost that they can while still maximum profits, right? I don't know that I agree with that. I mean, if Tesla's doing great and more people are buying cars, it means people have more money to spend. Yeah. That could be right, but it also

means that every business's job is to maximize share price, which part of that is delivering, like showing that you're getting higher revenue and lower expenses or higher, which means, you know, like obviously higher profits. Jeff, Jeff, here. we are. Hi, Jeff. Jeff's interrupting our business talk with, uh, the danger, the dangerous sub from Subway. So Russell Wilson just put out a great advertisement yesterday. Uh, this is a vitamin water for you.

Okay. Thank you. Uh, we, we like body armor. Yeah, it's shit. He put out a fantastic advertisement for the dangerous, is it the dangerous sub? Danger Witch. The Danger Witch. So we've got the danger witch right here.

And Jeff, be careful. It's spicy. That was so weird. Hang on. I want to reenact. I want to reenact the Danger Witch commercial. Can we zoom in? Yeah.

Can we use that camera? Well, don't forget, you need another six inch to throw. He throws it. Just off camera. I'm on your camera. Do you think he ad-libbed that whole thing? Yeah, I'm trying to remember the entire speech. Okay.

Do you want to fly it? Yeah, I can't. Let's play it real quick so I can... I got it. Hold on. And then people can duet. People can duet me. Okay, we'll cut this part out.

Okay. You gotta have a wrap like eat it. And ready? Yep. Hey, we're on a sandwich. It is my signature sandwich. No, I'm good, man. It's called the danger which.

I do only one. Just his. I tweet. it out yesterday. It was deleted off the internet. He deleted it. Really? I tweeted. I, PFT also tweeted the full thing too. So what happened was I tweeted the full thing. And then the person that had originally tweeted it out deleted their entire Twitter account. That's shame. And then I tracked down who it was that tweeted out that video because they bragged about deleting their entire

account because I was roasting it. And so then I just said to myself, wait a second, it's just, it's a TikTok video. I can go save the TikTok video. Okay. I got tweeted out myself. I have the one that doesn't have the dirt, okay. Hey, you want to split this subway sandwich? It is my signature sandwich. It's called the Danger Witch, and it's dangerously good. Be careful, though. It's spicy.

Mad Dog, can you restart it? I'm going to write down the script. The script. The ASMR of him chewing is, It's super Tim and Ericy. Like, if anyone to watch the Tim and Eric videos, like, they're known for really, like, boosting their audio levels as the joke.

And that's what this video sounds like. All right. Yep. You want to split this subway sandwich? I'm going to let you type. Was that the very start of it? Yeah. There was no hay?

You want to split this subway sandwich? It is my signature sandwich. Got it? Yep. It's called the Danger Witch. And it's dangerously good. be careful though it's spicy

you ever done anything dangerous god sounds like what's the wait wait be careful though it's spicy I've done I've done something like that.

God. One time. Never mind, that's too dangerous. Anyways. You good? Uh, hang on. He sounds like it wants to fuck us. Yeah, it does.

okay my danger witch it's only in the ball that's our little secret I don't okay that's it yep all right

I'm gonna put my shades and also I haven't thought about getting subway in it weren't to 15 years. Do you think Subway, did they write that? Or did he do it and they were like, that's going to go viral? I think they put him in front of

a camera and they said, we're going to let Russ cook. And that's what he made. Okay. Hey, you want to split the sandwich? It's my signature sandwich. It's called the Danger Witch. And it's dangerously good.

Be careful, though. It's spicy. You ever done anything dangerous? Jeez, that is dangerous. I've done something like that, too. I don't tell anybody. One time, I... No, that's too dangerous. Anyways, my danger, which, it's only in the vault.

It's our little secret. Is that creepy? pretty good. That is gross. Russell Wilson needs to be arrested. He's like so many pre-crimes in a row.

Hmm. Hmm. Is it spicy? It's got salami, ham, banana peppers, green peppers, lettuce, mayo, mustard, tomatoes, and bacon and pepperoni.

I'm going to say it. Italian herbs and cheese. I'm going to say it. This is a great fucking sandwich. like Russell Wilson Russell Wilson Russell Wilson made himself a good sandwich I have no idea how involved he was in the process

and it's not spicy at all I wish it was a little more spicy Yeah it needs more spicy be careful though Pretty good it's it's not not spicy There's like a little kick in there If you're if you have like the palette of a two year old It could be considered spicy It's got some tang on it

But it's good. I give this like an 8 out of 10. I'm very satisfied. And I haven't had Subway in years. I don't like Subway. I just, I like the smell. I'm a Danger Witch guy now. Yeah, I'm exclusively a Danger Witch guy.

Thank you for bringing that by, Jeff Lowe. Jeff, some people are saying that it's horses shit that the way that the new dozen season rankings have come out. Yeah. Yeah, some people are saying it's bullshit. Some people are angry about who's on the rookie team, where Matt. Acre dosing is ranked overall. Round of applause, Big T on the rookie team. No, no, no, no applause.

They don't give up the Heisman preseason, pal. He got to live up to expectations. It sounds like you're upset that you're not number one or number two. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. Confirmed. Billy, talk while I'm meeting. Let Billy cook part two.

All right. So, the real problem with gun control. I'm listening that it strips Americans of their constitutional rights and doesn't actually prevent gun violence Okay great job Billy I just finished Jewish

That was fantastic Way to carry the show No No So Big T and PFT you were arguing about gun control The other night when we were in Tennessee And it was starting to get boring Were we?

Wait what? I don't remember that at all We were arguing about gun control Yeah we were at the We were at the Asian fusion restaurant What were you arguing about gun control about? I don't recall We had some sort of conversation

I don't think it was Anyway I ended the conversation Just being alarmist In trying to like get them to be like What? And just stop talking about it I was just like Well guys the real problem is the CIA

Is arming school shooters They're like what? Oh yeah yeah Billy did say that Billy did say that indeed All right yeah the danger which is fucking good man that's that's i'm sad to say that but it's not like he had anything to do with that i don't know maybe that maybe this is russ wilson's best career path they probably said name three things you want on it and we'll craft it around that it's salami pepperoni ham banana peppers green peppers

bacon it's good like no cap it's good on god dead ass it's good be careful it's giving delicious shut the fuck up I'm that dog that one took it too far that one did that one absolutely

subway let's ride okay so I hope you guys enjoyed the waffle house discussion that was fun I had a great time had a blast with you all

off site so that was about eight minutes of what we recorded about 45 the rest of it will be on the vlog. So I'll put more from the Waffle House. Obviously, you have to cut some of it. It's a lot of, like, gibberish, but a lot of it will be on the vlog for sure.

And hand up, I don't know if you included this in the Waffle House part. I was feeling the effects of psychedelic mushrooms at the time. I don't know if you included that part. No, not yet. They will be in the vlog, though, for sure. Yeah. So somebody slipped me, basically dosed me with mushrooms. slip them to you meaning gave them to you put them in my hand

and then you voluntarily that I swallowed them yeah there's no there's no illicit drugs that start with tea then start with tea but it's like like tramadol yeah like like try to fan triptophan but yeah but like I was gonna I've been trying to think about the shit did the shit in turkey yeah

and for a second I was I was like wait what are they selling over in Turkey that would be really confusing if Turkey started like distilling like hardcore industrial strength triptophan that just like knocked you out you can buy that yeah like what if Turkey the country became

like developed a bunch of labs and then you're like oh isn't that stuff is that the stuff that you can get in Turkey and then people just get super confused by it so there's a pretty there's a pretty powerful newtropic that's a type of of triptophan called 5HTP which is

let me in it gets you pretty high you can it's a 5 hydroxy tryptophan and it's an antidepress like you can buy it like at any

supplement store but it gives you a pretty like dopey buzz it's like one of those like the come it doesn't really have a come down it's like but it gets you pretty you four Okay.

But that's basically industrial strength triptophan. Okay. I like it. It's pretty wild. If you mix it with like alcohol. All right, let's not tell people how to create their own drug cocktails. It was funny. Last week on PMT, we were talking about the girl over Utah State that called in a bomb threat on their nuclear facility that they have on campus, which is apparently something that they have on campus.

which is apparently something that they have on campus and we're talking about how it kind of rocks that they have a nuclear reactor on campus and then Big Cat was like oh yeah they have one at Purdue as well and then Billy chimes and he goes Loki it's actually pretty easy to make your own nuclear reactor A Boy Scout made a nuclear reactor using a fire alarms because there's little bits and then you just take all those

Yeah but okay once again I'm asking you put them Once again, I'm asking you to not instruct our listeners on how to create a nuclear bomb. Thank you, Billy. Okay, you should not drink alcohol with taking 5HCP because you might get a seizure. Okay. But there's a lot of news. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it.

All right. Sorry, Avery, you were saying? I was saying we should talk a little bit about Hurricane Ian. I mean, it literally is looking like they're saying it's going to be the fifth strongest hurricane to ever hit the U.S. Yeah, it was a category four, almost a category five when it hit Florida. Yeah, so my mom had a house in Sanibel. I don't know if anybody listening to the show lives around the Fort Myers-Sanabelle area, but they're saying it could be uninhabitable by the time this ends.

It's just tearing shit up. Yeah. Storm surge. Yeah. I saw one video. It was pretty creepy. It's of a, it's of a bay near Tampa. Oh, yeah.

And it had all the water got blown out of the. channel and it got moved like the water got displaced by the high winds and moved out to the ocean and so there's this bay that's normally under i don't know several feet of water probably like you know dozens of feet of water be my guess it just completely empty and you can see like the sand you get people are out there walking across it and in a couple minutes after that video is taken there's going to be the resurgence of the storm and the water's going to come back in after it gets blown back out out of the ocean just creepy stuff hurricanes are powerful man don't fuck with no there's one video i sent it to you guys it's a video from a camera's point of view in fort

meyers and the camera six feet off the ground and it's getting covered in water it's it's insane yeah i was i interviewed a storm chaser on billy's list and hearing his stories from like going to places where hurricanes were going to strike to get footage he said that Number one, they hate the storm chasers because mostly it's rescue first responders staying in the hotels near the hurricanes. And they just like see them as a total drain on resources and total liability. But it is being in those storm zones has got to be so surreal. Just that being on the edge of danger. What's what's the number one place in America?

where, like, no natural disasters happen. Like, what's the safest place? To be, to have no natural disaster. Ohio has, like, nothing. Tornadoes. No, not really. No, I got almost hit by a tornado. In Ohio?

You were. I've seen that video. Yeah. But they usually don't touch down, if anything. I was going to say a little north of that, like Michigan, maybe. Yeah, it says Michigan. Michigan's number one. The middle of the country, you have tornadoes.

It's about Colorado. New Hampshire. Colorado have avalanches in the mountains. Oh, yeah. The 20 best places to live to avoid natural disasters. I imagine if you lived your life like that. Just scared of it. Number one is Olympia.

Washington? Washington. Number two, Spokane. No, until force fires. Forest fires or North Korea missile. Yeah. Well, it's made. Top three are all in Washington.

New York used to be pretty, the cold waters of New York, of the Atlantic have always defended New York from hurricanes. But it may be warming up. and maybe getting hit with hurricanes. What was the one in the Great Storm of 1932? My grandma always talks about that one. I don't know. I'm not familiar with that one. But I feel like Nevada probably does pretty well

in terms of natural disasters. Probably some droughts, obviously, because it's the desert. Las Vegas should not exist. It's a city that really has no reason to exist besides sex. It's a pretty big reason, actually. now that I think about it. It's one of the better reasons. Missouri?

What does Missouri have? Tornadoes. A tornadoes, yeah, true. Tennessee. A lot of tornadoes. The northeast is pretty, the only, it would only be a hurricane hitting the northeast or a nor'easter. But those are,

what about the Dakotas? Oh, tornadoes. Lizards. Really? Yeah, it's pretty flat. I'd say blizzards and just despair. Your whole life is a natural disaster if you live in North Dakota. Let's be honest.

But you wake up in the morning, you're like, oh, shit, I have to show five feet of snow again. Oh, and it's icy. Oh, and it's gray. Okay, Eric Adams. I'm not talking about North Dakota's brand. Their brand is pheasant hunting and great Division 1 FCS football. I'm going to get it. And people who all have the very similar hair color and build to Big T.

your beard would play in North Dakota it would everyone's got this like mild reddish hue to them and I think it's because they're all from the same part of Scandinavia yeah can you look into that for me like well that's in terms of their genetics well Brock Lesnar yeah yeah exactly

that's South Dakota well just look into that I'd like a report from you about the genetic makeup of people from the Dakotas I actually heard like the population of Sweden I think it was like 50% immigrated to the US of in that time my family did that yeah and they settled you know minnesota dakotas they actually i think came through canada a lot of them not illis island no okay so um let's hop into our topic for the day how's that sound let's do it what's our topic speaking

speaking of uh having to do with shitty weather all the time in north dakota today's topic is snowden you're like that i was again folks i was i was i was I made that joke. Seven is way too generous. I made that joke in the group chapter. That is true. Billy had already said that. Yeah. So it was double ironic. That's why I said it wasn't even a seven. It was a New York, New York five, but a North Dakota's nine. That's how that joke went. So I was Snowden all morning reading about Edward Snowden. Okay. So yeah, let's talk about Snowden. Billy, I want you to drop some facts on us. Can you take us back to the beginning with Edward Snowden? Yeah. Before the beginning. Before the beginning, the pre-gaining.

Edward Snowden was consummated on a bed with American flag sheets. And patriotism has always been a large part of his family. Okay. Was he really? No. Okay. Okay. He was born.

That's a great start here. Okay. So he's born June 21st, 1983, in Elizabeth City, North Carolina. his father was a in the army reserve and you know patriotism was always a large part of edward's life he in may 7th 2004 inspired by 9-11 in the war in iraq he enlist in the army reserves as a special forces candidate four months later he's discharged from the army reserve without completing any training he then in 2013 starts working for a company called booze Allen Hamilton, which is an information technology consulting company.

And with that, he had access to many of the tech companies that were helping advise the government. So he was a, so basically like consulting companies, you don't know what they do, they get paid to do other companies work. Yeah. So Booz Allen Hamilton is one of the major, major consultancies that are operating. operate, they operate, you know, across the United States, probably worldwide as well, but they're massive in Northern Virginia, Maryland, D.C. So all these government agencies have big

programs that they operate, whether it's Department of Defense, Department of the Interior. There's all, think of any software program that would be needed to maintain the world's biggest bureaucracy. So whether that's CRM systems, accounting, or special projects that they create. It's not like the Department of Defense necessarily has, you know, hundreds and hundreds of developers capable of designing and executing a project that just sit around working for them. So they outsource it to just groups of very smart people that get hired basically right out of college to work for these consultancies and then get brought in as hired guns on any project that they might have. What's interesting that Snowden dropped out of high school

so he had somehow gotten to this position very smart guy but um he ended up you know he ended up going to the university of liverpool uh in the end to get a degree but at the time he did not have a degree um so then in may 16th 2013 Snowden had his first direct exchange with washington post reporter barton Gellman, which is going to be important later in the story. But this is when Snowden leaves for Hong Kong in 2013, and starts working with multiple tech companies in this consulting role. So Snowden then reported to reporter Barton Gellman, Barton Gellman, that the Post, the Post, the Washington Post should publish information about Prism, a surveillance program that gathers information from Facebook, Microsoft, Google, and others.

This was one of the first leaks and first acknowledgments of existence of PRISM. And Prism is basically, basically it was an intelligence program that harvested all our data and harvest all the data that these big tech companies were selling to the government. And, you know, Snowden became a big whistleblower on the whole thing. So, wait, let's back up a little bit. because, Aaron, you've got some experience dealing with Edward Snowden, don't you?

Very vague, but yeah. I had never even heard a buddy until 2018. I just really wasn't into the story. Just didn't ever cross my desk. And so I was just looking for a dope movie. I always searched like spy movies. And this one came up as like a pseudo spy movie. And I just got hella interested in the story.

Did a little bit of reading about him. and just how big of a story it was in the U.S. and in our political stratosphere. And so I just took to Twitter just because I was curious about what people thought of it because I really wasn't sure where to place it. So I just kind of gauging people's responses about what they thought about it. And so I just ran a little poll on Twitter that ended up getting a lot of traction. Like, was he a patriot? like and ended up getting to him i think i could dare to later and uh yeah he responded um

and it was just fascinating that a little poll one that that that that would reach him uh to that extent but two um that uh that you know he's still you know struggling and i guess internally with like being or what he did uh just kind of coming coming to terms with it and how he's viewed publicly. And so he ended up responding. He said, and it was overwhelmingly yes. So it was like 90% yes, 10% known. And then he said, this is a little spot of hope for all those out there who worry like the truth no longer matters. Propaganda fades with time, but facts endure. Five years have really moved the needle on a question that used to be controversial. And so then I DM'd him and asked him what he thought about it all. And he told me to fuck off, actually.

Seriously? No, I'm just joking. I was just playing. That's a lot. That's part. That's a joke. But no, no, it was just interesting to see that it reached him and it was dope. Yeah. So the CIA and the NSA more specifically, I guess, the NSA had an idea before they developed a prism system. And I don't know, maybe you guys can help kind of unpack this a little bit before we talk about what Edward Snowden did for them and exactly why he did what he did. But their idea was they were tasked with stopping any further terrorist attacks in the United States. That was part of their deal, the National Security Agency. Part of that was also dealing with wars going on overseas and stuff like that.

But also they were dealing with threats to America. And they realized, oh, shit, we've got all the cell phone data from all the cell phone companies that pretty much it tracks where people are taking them. It tracks where they go. we can track emails that are sent as well we've got with the internet like connecting us more so than it's ever connected as before there's tons of stuff that we can look at and we can start to put together patterns and pieces that can help us determine whether or not somebody is more of a threat to make an attack and so they start to do that they start to build that out

without thinking like is this is this a violation of people's individual rights and if it is a violation, is it a worthwhile violation if it helps us to stop attacks and shit? So that's like that's a question that they have to wrestle with because it probably has helped us catch some terrorists, but it also has been like a massive violation of, I think a lot of people's expected right to privacy. Big T, where do you stand on that? Yeah, I definitely stand more on the side of privacy, those who are willing to give up a little, for a little security deserve neither

and I do you feel less safe now than before this information came to light? I do not. I don't think it had much of an impact

on our ability to secure ourselves. I think if you think that we've stopped doing this, you're full of shit. Oh, no, no, no. I don't at all.

But the argument was this is a huge detriment to national security. This makes it much more difficult. I don't, I don't think. Oh, that, that has been uncovered. Yeah. I've,

I've always operated on the mindset that any email that I send, any text that I send, send it as if you expect it to be read aloud in court one day. You know? Like, it's not, nothing is, nothing secret. Billy, Billy's laughing because he's like, oh, shit, I've definitely sent some things that. What are you, why are you laughing, Billy? No, I mean, just like, if the group chat ever got leaked with, like, everyone's got their group chat with their buddies.

like the mean like everyone getting arrested because the group chat gets leaked yeah i don't know if i've an arrestable group chat out there no but that's most of my group chats that they would just pull me into a room and be like tell me more about this billy football he's he's raising a lot of alarms all right so i want everybody to participate in a social experiment right now it's uh just send a text in your most close group chat saying i'm going to set off a bomb in Washington, D.C. So just do that. And we'll see if the NSA is truly still spying.

All right, Billy, you go first. Group me. It's group. Group me count. No, don't do that. Billy, don't do that. I don't want to see you. I'm about to say I will not be partaking in this.

Yeah. So the fact that most people would hear that and be like, no, I'm not going to do it. I think we all kind of accept the fact that the government spies on us to a certain extent, right? Did you think that same way, Aryan, back in like 2008, 2009? I did. Yeah, I did. My dad was like really, you know, he grew up in the 70s, you know, with the Black Panther Party and that whole, you know, fruit of Islam in the 80s, 90s. And so we grew up with a healthy distrust and skepticism of the government and their initiatives and their most. And so we, like, in our communities have always thought the FBI or the CIA was responsible for Martin Luther King, Jr. and Malcolm Max. And so we've always, we've always thought that.

What about anybody else in this room? You guys probably weren't of age to be wrong with cell phones in 2008, huh? 2009. I was too young. I think I got my first phone in 2010. And did you come with any instructions? Like, Big T, do not. do not call

do not make certain threats I don't think so you were so when your parents gave you a phone they weren't like be careful what you send yeah I think probably I think I couldn't text on it at first I could only call people but yeah no I don't

I don't remember anything specifically I'm sure they probably did I actually think I did have a cell phone when I was I had a I had but like I was also roaming around the city yeah and I had a cell phone when I was like went up on the subway and stuff the city of new york was billy's babysitter yeah uh and I had a I had a Nokia that I got for my sister that was like a brick

you had like two buttons on it like call parents call sister yeah yeah uh but yeah I just always operate under the assumption that somebody will be able to pay attention to this and so they started looking for patterns and shit and the government had this big spy program started by george W. Bush uh Patriot Act in the Patriot Act and the Patriot Act and the Patriot Act. Patriot Act was maybe one of the biggest disasters in terms of like taking away civil liberties in the United States history. I'd say like Patriot Act, it's no, it's not close to like the Japanese Internment Act where we just like sort of put people in concentration camps during World War II. But it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad that they just kind of ripped

everything apart. All they have to do is just say your suspective terrorism and then a judge will signed basically an unlimited search warrant and they can tap into all your shit. So we started tap into everyone's shit. Basically, we just took all their data and we said, okay, we're going to feed it into this big machine and then we're going to use that to put together patterns and figure out who's a terrorist and who's not.

And, yeah, there's just going to be some outliers and some things that get caught up and some innocent people, but that's just kind of how the pattern is going to have to go. So that was kind of the impetus of Prism, was to attract terrorists and stop terrorism. and Snowden started working on it. So Snowden, yeah, he dropped out of high school.

Yeah, he dropped out of high school, went to a community college for a small amount of time, but never received an undergraduate degree. He then, he was a computer whiz, so he was really good with computers. His first job out of high school was as a, wait, yeah. So he ended up getting a job with the CIA because he was so good with computers. Um, this was in 2006. He attended a job fair focused on intelligence agencies. Um, and they, he got assigned to the global communication division at CIA headquarters in Langley, Virginia. He was super good with computers. So they stationed him everywhere. And he was always working a lot

with technical intelligence. And this ended up putting him in Geneva, Switzerland. He was stationed there in 2007. And he was responsible for maintaining computer network security there. And basically, Basically, he had a diplomatic passport and, you know, all the CIA type, you know, get up. He, this is what he claims. And he claims that he helped deliberately get a Swiss banker to get a DUI as leverage so that they could bail him out and use him to extract, like to get the banker to divulge information that he knew because, you know, every all like the bat like Switzerland is a. is a banking haven because they don't really let anyone like financially look at what's going on. So a lot of foreign, uh, organizations put their money there that aren't necessarily the best people. So the CIA always is trying to get information on who's putting money into Switzerland.

So they ended up getting this banker drunk, having him pulled over and they, he says that this is a story that he told that he, they then helped bribe all the Swiss police and judges to get this banker out using government funds. So, yeah, so he was a spy for lack of better terms. He claims the CIA denies this and, you know,

they're like, this would mean the CIA successfully bribed the Geneva police and judiciary which I just can't imagine that that was CIA's statement but it's like the CIA has done a lot worse stuff than bribe. Then bribe Swiss police. Yeah. Yeah. So he then

was working as a contractee for Dell and he was looking into mass surveillance in China and this is sort of when he was looking at it for Dell because Dell was like we're selling products in China we need to know how the Chinese might try to use this to survey on their own citizens because they're just open about it and what Snowden realized while working there

is that the U.S. was also doing the same surveillance and then this is when he was contracted by Booz Allen Hamilton after working for the CIA, after working for Dell, Booz Allen Hamilton was like, this guy's, you know, he's got a great skill set.

And we could use a guy like that. And that's when he was contracted out to the NSA under Booz Allen Hamilton and gained access to a lot of the information that he then divulged. Interesting. So he had a very complicated background. CIA agent,

you know, tech wizard. according like his words like employment was never hard for him because he was so good with computers and that made him such a high asset he got access to crazy amounts of information that he then went on to divulge to the public with Prism and to the Washington Post. So this is when they started to prosecute. So I feel like let's just jump back real quick here. I think we need to do an entire episode about people.

that worked at PayPal and what they've gone on to do because you can trace like most of America's companies right now have direct ties to executives at PayPal. You have Elon Musk. Peter Thiel is another big one.

And so Peter Thiel, he actually started a company called Palantir and they have they've denied that they were instrumental in creating the PRISM software that the NSA used, but they do have a piece of software called Prism, and they were funded by the CIA and their venture capital unit. It's not entirely funded. Peter Thiel definitely had his own sources of funding he could go out and get, but the CIA developed

a, I guess, a branch of their company or an initiative called Incutel because they realized that the CIA, their technology was falling behind what private companies were able to do. So private companies after the dot-com boom, they were able to hire better software engineers and create different types of technology that the government didn't have or hadn't thought about because there was more money in the private sector. Whereas before that, all the software, for the most part, that was coming out to the private sector, had some sort of parallel program that had also. have been developed inside the U.S. government.

But at this point, it's like, okay, private sector has, they've got all the best minds out there developing cutting edge software that the U.S. government does not get a piece of. So the CIA started this thing called Incutel, which is almost like an incubator or like an investment branch of the CIA that helped to fund private companies in exchange for getting their hands on some of the stuff they were creating. One of those companies was Palantir, which was headed by Peter Thiel. And it was a relatively small investment. I think publicly we only know that they got, I want to say, $2 million, maybe $4 million.

So it's not like they're pouring a shitload of money into it, but it's still millions of dollars. Like it's still, it's not nothing. You can still, and especially if it's like a seed investment that you're expecting a return on when they don't have anything going on right now. It's, it's not insignificant. So there's a lot of speculation that that Palantir has been. instrumental in developing and and maintaining and upgrading the prism system. You know, they've denied it.

They said they had nothing to do with it. And it's not any of their people that are working on it. But it very well could be. And if you look at what Palantir does, their big thing is they collect shitloads of data and then they infer and extrapolate things from that data to give people better visibility as to either customers, patterns or they work with security companies

to overseas they do a shitload of work with the government tracking terrorists and they work with branches of the military and so they they're experts at finding these little patterns and data and then pulling them out and and identifying potential risks and threats so they do that shit all the time they claim that they're not involved in prison but maybe that's something that we dive into later is just everything the PayPal coaching tree I think would be a good a good episode Peter Thiel is he's definitely got links to this not to say that he in invented prism or that he helped to create it, but he might have. Yeah. And who knows that investment might have been a couple million, but who knows what kind of contracts that they promised to give

on top of that for the information. You know who actually gave the most information? I think when they first checked on it, I'm not sure the exact year, but Yahoo. Yahoo is selling tons of information. Yeah. That's what, so like, if you're wondering, how Yahoo is able to stay afloat against Google and you're like, what the hell are these guys doing? Like, I think Yahoo's most utilized today for just their fantasy football. Oh, for sure. That's probably the most use they get out of it. So it's like they're just collecting information. For sure. If the government ever needs to know like how many people drop Kirk Cousins after a primetime game, then Yahoo's getting that call. Yeah. I wonder what sort of fantasy football

indicators there would be about society. Probably how much, well, you can't put that in. Probably mostly networking. It's like who knows who. Yeah, we were talking, yeah, networking, like who's in different groups with who. We're talking about the Waffle House index earlier where it's like, if there's a certain amount of Waffle houses that are closed for business, it means that a natural disaster's coming.

I wonder if there's like a Yahoo Fantasy Football Index. Yeah. It's probably a good way to map out connection. Yeah. Like, who knows who, who's in a fantasy football league with another person. I mean, I, like, who is high school? Terrorist cell has like a fantasy football league. They might, but it might be soccer. I feel like, oh, yeah. That's more popular in countries like, you know, where, where terrorism usually comes from. Yeah. So, but, but that was like an example. You probably could, like, deduce a lot from who, what leagues people are in. That can, that's an association yeah and it's usually like connections that go deep yeah like back to high school yeah uh okay yeah that's a good point billy so um talking about edward snowdon so he

he goes to work out in hawai right when he gets arrested when they go after him yeah Hong Kong so he started he moved to Hong Kong while he was divulging all this information to Barton Gellman. And then the watch, so the Washington Post then disclosed the existence of PRISM. Outed Snowden is their source for the intelligence leaks. Booz Allen then released a statement confirming that Snowden had been an employee of their firm. I'm pretty sure he worked it, but before that he worked in Hawaii.

So he worked for, he worked for the NSA, like when he made these leaks, he fled to Hong Kong afterwards. Right. But when he was making these leaks, he was in Hawaii and, pretty sure as a contractor. And so he, uh, he tried to like tell his bosses like, hey, this is unethical what we're doing. We're, we're able to access. We're reading people's private emails. That's what his big concern was, right? Like people, people would just read private citizens emails and would be like, oh, this person's sending nudes and like, look at pictures

and shit and just act in general, uh, unprofessionally. Which I think, I don't even know if you can blame those people directly for it. I mean, you definitely can. You definitely can. But at the same time, if you create a big program where you allow all of your employees to look at anyone's email at any given time and like find nudes from anybody, you're creating a system where like just by human nature, people are going to take advantage of that shit and they're going to look it up.

It's just going to happen. The crazy thing about this is like when I was in when I was in college before, This was like when cell phones were just starting to get their run, right? Like iPhone 1 started to come out as like sidekicks. Like I used to just like, I used to go on my buddy's phones and just see like how they would talk to people. Like I had no real reason. I wasn't trying to find anything incriminating it. But I used to just take their phones.

I just believe it was your phone. And he used to give it to me. And I'm just like looking how they communicate with people and how they talk to females with people. And it's like if you have somebody's phone and their insights, you know them better than. anybody, right? And this is what's scary about this is because they're selling that what ended up the, you know, the revelations that came from all this is they're selling data to these companies. Basically, they're paying these companies to have access to all this data, right? So these companies have access to this data, right? And this is not necessarily a point

on the surveillance. This is more necessarily a point on the information gathered is that these companies now know us like better than we pretend to if that makes any sense you know what I mean and so they this is why like when you talk about like uh capitalism in a sense of um having a monopoly on markets it's because they have so much data and their privy to so much data that no smaller company can ever catch up to the analytics because they know what consumers want better than anybody. That's to me was the most

revealing thing about how much data these companies can actually collect. If we had Snowden on the podcast, I would want to ask him about all those

like Instagram or ads where we like are thinking about something and then it just pops up or like someone sees something. They can't tap the thoughts.

They can tap the thoughts. Yeah, but I know, I know, but it's almost like some people say that they think that they can tap the thoughts.

In a way they can tap the thoughts though because they recognize online patterns and people and they've done they've done studies of like eye tracking on pages and all that stuff they know how you're going to think before you think it that's the thing is there it's kind of even evolved towards tracking thoughts and evolved into forcing thoughts on people so they can force thoughts on you that's what's kind of scary it's like they they they know what you want before you want it and they can make you do something right they

have the data that says we can make 33% of people that visit this page do the thing that I want them to do. And they know what kind of people like engage in that kind of consumerism. You're right. If they wanted to, they could turn they could turn people into terrorists. Like if if you just like. They have. Yeah. They have. I think it's pretty remarkable how quickly. This was 2013, 14? 2013, I believe, is when he sent the data. Yeah, that's when he went to Hong Kong. So about 10 years, that in a decade we've gone from, when this came out, it was a massive, massive deal. Not that it wouldn't be today. But in 10 years, we've gone from that to

something like TikTok, which the information it is taking from everyone that uses it is unreal. Like, if you've read any of these articles about, it's so much further past anything else. And it's not like Twitter and all those other things aren't doing it, too. And I feel like now there's just sort of this resigned. It is what it is to it. And I'm guilty of that too. I'm on TikTok every day. And 10 years ago when this happened, it was groundbreaking stuff.

Yeah. I mean, and now people are just resigned to it. You're right. I think there were fewer applications that people used on their phones and on their computers. But not they, it was still like people were on the internet. 2013 the internet was it's huge but now it's more like there are more apps on your cell phone because the the iPhone and the Android those are still like relatively new back in 2012 2013 and now they've just become so much more advanced and that people's entire lives are tied into those

phones they use them for more things whether that be getting around dated air just entertainment like TikTok and we we should all be I think we all kind of understand the fact that when we use TikTok, we're giving all the information to not only to China, but also probably to anyone that has access to the data that goes through our different internet providers in the United States. We were kind of resigned to that. Like when they put out the Pokemon game back in 2016 and the entire thing was just like people were just walking around their houses with their cameras out, like trying to find these little Pokemon's. Tracking your location everywhere you went. They have a full map of the inside of your house now. Yeah, it's like we're resigned to it.

then you're right big t was like oh shit the government's reading my emails without a warrant i can't believe it the government that i trusted and now it's like okay we're just we've completely given up anything that we do on our phones on our computer will probably be tracked and someone's probably using it for bad reasons but what are you going to do not going tictock and see this adorable video of a dog shaking off and slow motion after it gets out of a pool not me i got to see that dog man it's it's almost like we're trading what we know to be a long-term bad investment for just give me that short-term hit of dopamine maybe just give me just make me feel happy for a second and it's not that a hard fix we just got to vote these old motherfuckers out of congress

have you ever seen a congressional meeting on like technology oh they have no idea they have no idea what's going on and it's like they don't understand that is the future and the future is is going to be i mean every single thing is tied to the internet. You're banking, your housing, your cars, your business, everything's tied to it. So it's like there needs to be some kind of regulatory practices that, that stops these big businesses from collecting and harvesting all this data because it's dangerous. This is great for business, though, which is my core issue with capitalism. But I don't think that's going to happen if you just like if everyone in the house and Senate was 35, I don't think that that this practice

would stop i think it'd be but you got hire ethical people it'd be a good thing to have people who were under the age of 30 even or like 35 that really knew what they were doing in charge of uh like a uh technology committee in congress and then also put like one old dude on there that's been around for a while that's seen like that can compare shit that happened back in like the 1980s to what's happening right now with this technology like one person just remind us of the past in a room full of like 30 year olds that know exactly what's going on with the applications in front of them because I think Aryan's right like if you watch those old if you watch the clips of old people trying to do like house hearings and being like

and then you're on the face space they sound like Bill Belichick when he's talking about what he wants his players to be doing like during the bye week you know so it's we do need I think we need younger people in Congress to talk about it right now because right now if you're if you're talking about technology and you're in the senate you're just basically repeating what your uh like what your closest aid has told you about what they saw online you have no actual um applicable practice using that technology that you're now legislating on when did it start when did like i've noticed in a lot of these uh uh lately a lot of these congressional hearings like republicans will use like these big old signs to like advocate for their point when did that start is that as that i don't remember that always been a thing that's like fairly recent is it not it's also katie porter she's the the democrat i think from california she does it too right or she has like a whiteboard maybe sometimes that she brings out yeah but you're right they're using like way more visual aids

yeah i don't hate it i don't hate it some of them get silly sometimes you just put memes up there that end up being completely yeah like that's that's like ridiculous just like some Something that's been printed off the internet by somebody, and then later it's like, oh, yeah, that was a, that was a Photoshop. My bad. That shit happens all the time, too. All right. So Edward Snowden, 2013, he leaves. He goes, he's at a facility in Hawaii. That's where he finds out all this shit. And then he smuggles a thumbnail, or it's not a thumb drive. He takes a USB drive out of the facility. And then he emails those files. they need to do a better like if you are making sure that nobody is stealing anything like it seemed like it was a very easy thing to steal that data

like I don't understand how but he was a computer whiz so I think he was able to bypass all fingerprints he's like writing the programs in order to go around and he didn't even work for the government right he was just contracted yeah that's pretty crazy

yeah but the people that the government contracts are the people that they don't want people to know are in the government. Yeah, they do. They're on like top, top secret clearance. They do all sorts of shit. I just, I like any,

I like to imagine any real life situation. Like it's in a movie where he's got the thumb drive plugged into the computer. It's downloading. And it's downloading on the screen. And it's like getting up to 90%, 92% of his boss is walking down the hallway. He's like,

come on, come on, come on, come on, come on. And then his boss walks in the room just as he takes it out. And he's turned around to get up. And it was like, oh, if it was a half second later, we'd still be run the spy operation. The thing is, if you saw, like, yeah, if you saw someone downloading something onto a thumb drive,

like, the people who probably didn't want him to do that probably had no idea what was going on. Yeah. Like, he was probably so much more above what anybody else was doing in there that he was able to do it because it looked like he was, you know, just doing his computer geek thing. Like, he, like, then if someone asked, oh, what, what are you put it on the thumb drive? Just like, oh, something I want to work on at home because I didn't get home early tonight. Yeah.

It probably wasn't as intense as the movie. I don't know if you did you ever see the movie? I saw it, yeah, like 10 years ago. Yeah. Or whenever it came out. I forget the actor's name. He was on Third Rock from the Sun. But he did a great job.

But he's like, it's the same thing. He steps on it. He slides. It's like a whole like, but it probably wasn't even that intense. It's probably just like you took home. Yeah. I think maybe the easiest place to get somebody to give you all their shit. is like outside of a big convention if you just hand them a free a free thumb drive then they just put people love getting free shit right so if you just hand somebody like a gift basket and it's got like a t-shirt it's got a water bottle in there and then it's got a thumb drive with your company's branding on it then they plug it in their computer and then boom that just connects them i once had an insanely i once found a super good thumb drive but now that we use the cloud i don't know what happened to it but it was

It was like back in like middle school, it was the shit. It was like we used to put all sorts of stuff on that thumb drive. Yeah. And it was like like 25 gig. Wait, I didn't find this. It was like a sand disk like 100 gigabyte. Do you think? And I found it in a library.

I feel like I've heard of foreign governments trying to do that at like national conventions for Democrats or Republicans. They hand out a bunch of stuff to people that they think are like political operatives. And then just hoping that some of them will plug it. into their it's like remember when um didn't Putin meet with with Trump at one point and he gave him a soccer ball and the soccer ball had like a a microphone or something in it oh no there was a yeah no there there was an actual story from the cold war of the Russians gave a senator a carved eagle I want to say that had a microphone in it um microphone

we'll find that Putin gave Trump a soccer ball that may have a transmitter chip ah yeah the thing listening device images of the ball that Putin handed

to Trump appear to show a logo indicating it has a chip included as part of a standard feature the Adidas website explains that technology gives users access

to different functionalities including exclusive information about the product adidas football content special competitions and challenges and so I guess

why do we need that in a soccer ball we need a football goal line technology i think is that what it's for no we need figure that out figure what out we need to put chips in footballs i agree actually aren't there chips and footballs wait there are yeah yeah now the in the NFL ones yeah yeah we discovered that when you're arguing about who owned the tom brady's last touchdown uh the one the mike Evans through. So really it's Amazon that owns it. Maybe. Because there are chips inside. Yeah, but

the thing, also known as the Great Seal Bug, was one of the first covert listening devices to use passive techniques to transmit an audio signal. It was concealed inside a gift given by the Soviet Union to W. Averall Harriman, the United States Ambassador to Soviet Union on August 4, 1945.

Because it was passive needing electromagnetic energy from an outside source to become energized and active, it is considered a predecessor of radio frequency identification so basically it was a great seal which was just like the seal of the um u.s was given yeah it was a great seal of the u.s. a carved wooden seal and they gave it to the um ambassador to the Soviet union and it was just bug it was a bug pretty cool so um so part of the controversy about Snowden is that uh he did he did like a giant data dump right he just handed over

lots and lots and lots of raw data and it wasn't all related to the surveillance of American citizens there was other stuff in there that had to do with other parts of the military and our technologies and stuff like that so some people are like hey that's why he's a traitor because

he gave away all this information when he was just trying you know he could have just tried to minimize what he was giving away and just focus solely on the prison program I think he was just trying to like show this data is 100% real because I've got access to all this stuff

here it is like total transparency but that's why some people are like yo he's a traitor I don't think he's a traitor I think he was trying to do the right thing his grandfather was in the FBI an officer for the FBI and was at the Pentagon during 9-11 and everyone always

every publication always stresses that he like he really really loves America and service has always been a part of his family. His, like, I think his father was in the Coast Guard. Mm-hmm. So this sort of theme of service always rings in all of these writings about him. But that could be just good PR in framing and what he did. But, yeah, I think, I think that's why I did it.

Mm-hmm. I mean, well, he also said, and I'll give him this point, the, uh, the dude James Clapper, was director of national intelligence which is a great name by the way James Clapper and he was testifying to Congress and they asked him like point blank if the government spies on American citizens

using their cell phones and email he said no they don't do it just straight up lied about it and so Snowden said that he saw that and he was like okay fuck this dude I'm going to put it out what did he leak about I'm going to look into the military leak because I want to know

oh yeah he was leaking about how the military does surveillance in other countries and that like several South American politicians were bugged and they were surveillancing like tons of foreign leaders so he goes to Hong Kong

chills there for a little bit you know why he went to Russia because it was the only flight you could get I think so I don't know Yeah, I think he ended up in Russia not by chance, but he was trying to go to a place with no extradition. And he got trapped in the Russian airport because I think he was trying to get somewhere else. But because his passport got canceled by the U.S. So he couldn't move.

And he had to, then they stopped him in Russia. And he was sort of in this limbo type state where I think he was basically living in the airport. Or they detained him. Like a month. He lived like a month, yeah. And then they ended up, he filed for asylum in Russia. and uh well he filed for asylum in like 20 different 21 different countries yeah and uh the u.s was like pressuring other countries to not grant him asylum like so like there were countries that originally granted it to him and then like revoked it because the u.s like pressured them

hmm so in just recently he became a fully naturalized russian citizen actually did i use that word correctly? Yeah, sure. Naturalized? Yeah. So he's, he's a Russian citizen. They finally grants him citizenship, but I think they're just trying to enlist him. So there have been, like the U.S. wants him. He's wanted, right? He's got, he's got indictments in the United States. Yeah. For, I think, espionage, right? Yeah, the espionage act of 1917. Yeah, so they could kill him. Yeah. He could be like treason. Yeah. So, yeah, he's applied for political asylum to 21 countries. Joe Biden pressured governments to refuse his asylum petitions.

Biden even personally telephoned Raphael Carrera asking Ecuador to not grant Snowden asylum because they initially offered him a travel document, but they withdrew it. And that has a lot to do with Biden's personal phone call. Ecuador, you will remember, they also gave asylum for a while to Assange. And Assange ended up helping Snowden out. and like offering financial assistance and things like that. But, and then Snow, or Assange, that whole thing fell apart. Assange was in the Ecuadorian embassy in London, if I'm correct.

Yeah, they, I think they, I think he was in Ecuador for a while, but then he moved to London, if I'm not mistaken. But he couldn't even leave that place. Yeah, he was just trapped in there. Yeah, I mean, that sucks. Imagine me trapped in the same building. It's so cool, though, that if you're in an embassy, you're technically on that country's soil.

while you're inside. Like, it's a country inside of another country. It's kind of wild. Yeah. Weird. Another weird earth thing. It is a weird earth thing. The diplomatic community is so, I mean, I get its purpose in protecting U.S. diplomats in other countries.

But there's so many diplomats, diplomats that just get away with murder, literally, because they have their diplomats in the U.S. And they can, you know, do whatever they want. They can park wherever they want. Yeah. You can get out parking tickets. They can run red lights. Yep. And it's just a diplomats.

You can't do any legal proceedings against them. So there are exceptions to that rule, though. Because you can't actually kill somebody if you're a diplomat and get away with it. There's ways that they can prosecute you for that. Yeah. Actually, I just saw that on a Law and Order episode. You do have diplomatic community. It's true.

I want to get diplomatic community. My dad had diplomatic community for a while. Whoa. Where was he? You know, I've talked about how. how my grandfather worked in the State Department for a while. Yeah. And he was over in China for a long time.

And, yeah, hmm. And he was working out of Washington, D.C. for a while. So he had diplomat plates on his car. And so my dad was like, he looked like a real big hippie when he was in his 20s. He had like super long hair, long beard and shit. And he was driving around Washington, D.C. And then he would get pulled over sometimes by the cops. they would be like, you're not a diplomat.

And he'd be like, yes, I am. And they'd want to, like, give him a speeding ticket because he didn't look like a diplomat. He just looked like a dirty hippie. So they'd like, they'd seem speeding through DC, try to pull him over to give him a ticket. And then he'd be like, no, I actually am a diplomat. And they'd like, check out his car to see, like, oh, this is really your car. Is it? Yeah.

So diplomat plates sound pretty cool. Yeah. What would you do if you had diplomat plates? Just parking. I'd just park. Just use it for parking? Oh, yeah. I'd park.

Dude, parking is so tough in the city. It is. But I don't think you can kill somebody. I think that if you, because there have been cases where a diplomat son or daughter has killed someone. And usually they try to ship them back out of the country as soon as possible before the shit hits the fan. And you can, you can get away with like, it's tougher to execute a search warrant on a diplomat. But you can. Let's look it up.

But eventually you'll be able to push it through. Can diplomats get away with? murder top level ambassadors and their immediate deputies can commit crimes from littering to murder

and reign immune from U.S. from prosecution in the U.S. courts. Whoa. They can. Whoa. Top level ambassadors

in their immediate deputies. Whoa. But I guess like lower level. All lower at the lower levels employees of foreign embassies are granted immunity only from acts related to their official duties.

For example, they cannot be forced to testify in U.S. courts about the actions of their employers or their governments. Huh. The United States, as a diplomatic strategy of U.S. foreign policy, the United States tends to be friendlier or more generous in granting legal immunity to foreign diplomats through the comparatively large number of U.S. diplomats

serving in countries that tend to restrict the individual rights of their own citizens. You know what? We're overdue for a big data leak soon. Like, I don't care with that. No, think about it, 2010 to 2013, we had Chelsea Manning. Yeah. And we had Edward Snowden and Assange.

That was a hot time to just, to whistleblow on shit. Why don't we dump in more data? We need, dump them out. We're overdue for a whistleblower. Dump, dump those data's out. I do think at some point, all of our browsing history is going to get leaked. Yeah. It's going to happen, right?

Like, there's too many people that have now gotten their hands on it. and I'm sure I'm almost 100% sure that we're going to be able to see what all you little creeps out there have been looking at online. Dump those data's out. So I guess my new... Exposing my kinks will probably be the biggest thing.

Yeah. The speech that I got from like my family of don't send any emails that you wouldn't want read aloud in court. Don't search for anything online that you wouldn't want read back to you in a court of law or put out probably a better example would be to like to get leaked.

on Twitter. You know what 100% is going to happen is that so right now like current like the current present in 2036 or 2070 right is probably on Snapchat right now messing around like it has very like they definitely took snapchats of them doing stupid stuff yeah and someone is definitely to be able to access those and they're definitely going to get leaked Snapchat's whole thing was like don't worry about it it disappears forever right yeah is that true or does snapchats still have it snapchat has an archive of every snapchat ever sent they do a thousand percent yeah so i think there's no way that shit's that's probably that's probably what gets leaked right like when someone's like nudes get leaked or something no i'm just saying like in the future oh in the future yeah

thousand percent people snapchat like some like some politicians definitely like oh look at this what this politic like this politician's smoking weed or here's this video of this politician doing sexual acts yeah yeah like that's it's gonna be used to blackmail yeah there's no way Snapchat has no record but they have a record they have a record of how many times you've Snapchat there's no way they aren't keeping the pictures you sent I mean you know it's probably gonna be pretty like because of that it's probably like everything's probably gonna be normalized yeah as it should be I mean there's gonna be There's nothing worse I hate than like going to like political, like watching political debates and hearing like some dirt they did like 40 years ago.

Like, but I don't give a shit about that. Why should you? I think there, I think there's going to be like what Billy said when presidents that are elected in 20 to 30 years, there is going to be another level of like, well, they were young kind of thing. Yes. I mean, again, I'm not saying that they can say offensive or do offensive things. but like they smoked weed or you know they blacked out at a party and someone put them on their private snap test right like there's just going to be a level of I think normally brought to the presidency because all of their mistakes will be recorded or we're just going to get a ton of

fucking nerds as presidents yeah that have never done anything fun yeah I think the bar the bar for like having a clean past is going to continue to be lowered as we get further further into the future. Yeah. Do you think that's a good thing? In a way, it is because I think that some people, they, like the real squeaky clean people are the ones that you have to watch out for sometimes.

Like they try too hard to present a certain image. But like you don't want somebody that's of, you know, if we're talking about who should be the president, I think the president should be held to a far higher standard than a normal person. Agreed. Why? Why?

because you're the most important person in the world and we should have someone of good character and values and someone who is not doing things that normal people are doing. If you want to do those things, that's great. You shouldn't be president. But why? Like, correlate you having it experienced an American life to understanding policies that can help people's lives, like correlate those two. I guess what I'm getting at is, For a long time, so for example, take George W Bush, right? W. W.

He partied his dick off when he was in college, after college. He was a big party guy, did a lot of Coke, drank a lot. None of it was documented by his friends with like pictures saved and things like that. And he was eventually able to become president. I think you go back in Clinton's life, he partied a lot too. None of that was saved. He didn't have friends like taking pictures of him. them basically every other president that we've ever had has partied a lot has done things that if

you had photographic evidence of would potentially disqualify you from office it's not that people are doing worse things it's just there's a mode of capturing all the worst parts of people's lives and then resurfacing them later so i don't think people are getting worse i don't think that there's there's no such thing as like a perfect person that hasn't done anything that if there was a camera running on you every single second for every single day of your life it would capture things that would disqualify anybody from being president well the two people you just named one of them you think was a terrible president who killed a lot of people unnecessarily the other one had a moral scandal while he was in office that's what I'm saying like any president

though it could be anybody but it had nothing to do with how his policies yeah if you if you take that's what I was saying that's like correlated to you having an American life experience and your policy making decision I don't think they necessarily are need to be correlated what about this big that's that's my point my point is the I there are separate issues maybe if you were to look at all the presidents maybe that's my point maybe the the one that but no no I want to address him I am saying the person who is the leader of the free world should be of like upright character that that now you can find people with subjective though you can find good and bad people who you think have good ideas so what what leads you to believe

that quote unquote upright character well who's the arbiter of what upright character is I mean it's obviously very subjective thing okay so what some of the best most honorable loyal people I know are like reform gangbangers you know what I'm saying like or reformed like or reformed like Or people have done like crazy shit in they past that that was like a big stepping stone and towards them being a very good human. I am not saying you can never have done something bad in your life. I'm just saying if the conversation was someone who has all, you know, Snapchats of them, this, that, and the other.

Like maybe if it's between that and someone who has, this was for four years, this is all we heard about with Trump, what a terrible person he is, what bad character he has. That was a big knock on. him. Yeah. And he continues to display that. What do you? So, so, well, you just said that shouldn't matter. No, I said something from your past shouldn't disqualify you. If you're acting like a dick to people today as a 70 year old man, you're probably just a dick. That's true. Um, I don't. Yeah. I just, I don't think that. I think the person who is in charge of the

free world should be like a pretty good person. Not that being one, not that like good and bad people can't have ideas that you think are great or bad. What do you, it's just such a subjective term. And you know what? I want to, I want to change what I've said. I don't even think you need to be like a great person. Just like not someone who has trails of, you know, being blacked out at parties and shit like that. Like I think you should probably, not be president if you have all that in the future. Okay, so here's the thing. Here's the thing, don't. You don't think if you black out at parties, you shouldn't be present?

Yeah, I think that. What? No. Okay, here's the thing. The best person from a morality standpoint, the person that you're describing Big T, that has been present that I can think of right now is Jimmy Carter. And you would think like he's not a great president. Great person.

Great person. had some bad plans. Yeah, so I guess that just points to the fact that if you're a moral person does not necessarily mean a great president. That's correct. So I don't know why we would- It doesn't necessarily disqualify you from being a good president either. But at your drunken, big tea, if somebody had a camera on you, took a picture of you,

and then they'd use that to point out and be like, look, this person is of low moral standing, look at this guy, we have this evidence. Like, anybody at their worst would appear to be someone who should, shouldn't be present. Sure, but it seems like in this scenario we're describing it wouldn't be one thing. Probably not, but who knows? But who knows? I just think that the bar is going to get lowered as to like what's acceptable. Or maybe maybe just becomes nobody can be present. Well, that's, uh, that's what I was speaking to. I feel like I, I, I shouldn't say you should have to be this incredible person. Though I do think it's better to have someone, you know, that's better than worse.

But anyway, like you say the bar gets lowered. I don't think we should lower the bar for the president. That was my main point. Okay. The president should be held to a much higher standard than normal people. Okay. But what if, but like, but, but like, president.

But it doesn't. What if like the best president for this country, like the best president for this country, is someone who like has one of these videos? But it is de facto the best guy. I'm saying the bar for the president should be much higher. I miss grief yeah I think the bar for

podcasters should be much higher I agree yeah I agree they give in anybody a platform these days podcasters shouldn't have any bad things in their past there's a trend going around that saying like white men should not be able to have microphones anymore hey you come and take them

come and take our mics Come and take them the right to bear mics over my dead body. I'm upholding, I'm upholding white men having podcasts. You are your sellout, man. I am a sellout. When they came for the jewel. Anything for a check. When they came for the jewel, I said nothing.

When they come for my microphone. But when they came for my mic, I couldn't say anything. It's true. Billy gets de-platformed. It'd be so easy to de-platform, Billy. How? I'd just take your computer. That's it.

That's it. I would just take your computer and your phone. I'd wait until you go take a shit and then I'd steal your stuff. Then I go to, imagine if I started like blogging, tweeting and podcasting for like a library. Pirate. In New York Public Library. Yeah, pirates. Like pirate radio back in the day.

I am alive from the library. I'm going to stay quiet. Are they going to kick me out? You should have a permit to podcast. It's like driver's license test There should be a minimum Requirement Like don't be a complete dumbass

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i don't think that we should gatekeep podcasts at all i don't think there should be a barrier to entry i think the united states government should pay for everybody to get a microphone once they turn 15 and then it's a mandatory podcast that everyone has to do every day well technically we all do have podcasts it's just the only people can hear them or the people close to you every conversation is a podcast that isn't being recorded yeah I was like everyone kind of does have podcast yeah yeah but like imagine if you had a mandatory podcast that you had to do like everyone we'd all be making bank but think about it's like sometimes I think about that we're in terms of musicians the greatest musicians in world history might be living right now aren't famous it's

yeah but they just know it's not that they're not famous it's that they've never had the instrument that they could excel at like they're prodigies at there like walking down the street maybe that guy across the road that guy might be the world's best oboe player but nobody will ever put an oboe in the sand I could be a really good gazebo player but I've never seen it never played a gazebo. I don't think a gazebo was an instrument. Do you know what a gazebo is? I know what a gazebo is. No, I need to hear you tell me. What is it? It's a gazebo. A gazebo is like outdoor, open air shelter.

Yeah. Why did you say that? Because gazebo, like, I wanted to like do a mythical like oboe type weird instrument that I just no one ever would have like, but I couldn't think of like, gazebo could be an instrument. What about an accordion player? Like, who knows? Avery might be a rock star on the recording. That would be hilarious. Worst instrument. The accordion? I think that's the worst instrument. I actually was at a concert last night

where an accordion was. I bet. You were in the same room. I actually know, I don't think there wasn't. I don't like the way it sounds. It's just, it's goofy looking. You know what it is? The accordion kind of is, the accordion's low key racist. Okay. I just imagine. imagine the accordion being a racist instrument okay it gives off that vibe poca you think polka music's racist who knows it's just who knows like you know when you see those memes there's like i don't know but this just seems racist yeah i'm i'm pft could say the same theory

about the instruments as like athletes though where it's like i could be an amazing curler yeah it would have to be a sport like that though like a niche yeah a new sport Like some people, hold on. Hold on. You just, you just downplay Maddie's athleticism? No, no, no, no. But like most kids are put into, I mean, yes, yes. But you know what I'm saying? Like, I can look at Mad Dog right now and be like, you're not the best basketball player to ever. Pretty much. Like, just like somebody could look at me and be like, yeah, you would get your shit swat into the 20th row. Right. No one's, no one's looking at me and like thinking me and Miles Garrett have the same level of athletic ability. I couldn't be a DN. But like a niche sport or skeleton.

Like the one where you're in the... The Luge, but going head first? Like, you don't know. I do think about that, though. Like, so that's the thing with the mandatory podcast, we'd find out there's some fucking bangers out there. There's some funny people that just have never had a microphone and a platform. But not everyone would get a platform than the market would be so much more oversaturated than it is now.

Yeah, well, just a little bit. Like, pretty much everyone has a podcast right now. But get to a place where everyone who wants a podcast has a podcast. has a podcast and then see where it goes from there. Like every time you're drunk and you have like, we could have a podcast, we're funny. Then a microphone appears at your door the next morning. Yep, absolutely.

I hate that I do. You think there are too many podcasts? No, I just hate the idea. I mean, there are a lot of podcasts. Honestly, I don't listen to podcasts, ironically enough. You don't at all? No, I would like listen to, like YouTube debates or like what they call video essays like I would much rather listen to that

but I get the appeal for sure um does it just never been my thing does anyone ever actually win those YouTube debates no but so what I like to do is like I love to hear both side that sounds so centrist but it's true I like to hear both sides of a of a story just to see um which because usually it's like two side like that's like that's say it's an atheist versus Christian, right? Or this early, like, YouTube debates. Like, I like to see, like, who's heralded amongst the Christian, you know, diaspora and then also and vice versa.

I just kind of see the thought process and what they, you know, how they come to their conclusions is what I'm more interested in. Fascinating. I think it exercises some muscles in your brain that you don't normally use. Critical thinking skills, things like that. yeah but i don't listen to like debunk anybody i listen to like really like listen to like both sides to see what they're talking about got it so billy where is edward snowdon right now he's in russia and he's had two kids oh in russia yeah with who he got married to a woman in russia i think

it's actually um lindsay mills so is i'm guessing he has not spoken out against Putin yeah He might actually get, now that he's a citizen, he might get enlisted. Like, actually. They don't have an age limit? No, they're taking 40-year-olds right now. I saw this video. There's actually huge... Weak as shit.

There's huge riots in Dagestan because, you know, Russia has a bad... Their birth rates so low that they're sort of satellite type states like Dagestan, you know, Georgia, some of the other regions that aren't... aren't made up of ethnic Russians, but a lot of the Caucasus Muslim populations, that's who's fighting the wars, and they're sort of figuring out, like, hey, wait a second, like, we don't really have skin in this game, like, why? Even though we're conquered by Russia, like, why are we letting Moscow just take our sons?

I'm looking at, this is on his Wikipedia page, but the person that runs the electronic Frontier Foundation and the tour project said that Snowden was an active poster on their forum for 11 years so he was a message board guy and you know what his name was Snowden's screen name or his message board name

was the true hoo-ha hoo-ha D-A-T-A-T-E-T-H-E the true Oh I was like this H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H. What is H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H-H. I'm sure it's

Is that vagina? It's a vagina He's the true He's the true hoo-ha Haha is a vagina Yeah Wait Yes

Look it up Billy Google Google vagina I've heard that before Like old southern women Who refused to say that word Yeah That's who I envision Old southern my hoo-ha

Yeah Have you like Connor my hoo-ha's Oh never Fuck dude Never say that again Yeah that was That's, that's the, I don't think that's the term he used.

It's the, when you look it up, the actual definition, it's a state or condition of excitement, agitation, or disturbance, commotion, uproar. Oh, I know of it as, I know of it as lady parts. That's, that's like, brouhaha. No, it's, it's like a fight. It's, whoha. H-O-O-Dash-H-A-H-A-H-A-H-A. So, he's married to Lindsay Mills, who's an American acrobat and blogger.

Acrobat Yeah That's a dying profession I want to check out Lindsay Mills's acrobatics Yeah what is What is she acrobat on Let's let's check out She a trapeze person

Oh she What Billy I don't know Say it say it There's a lot of pictures of her posing Okay So what do you mean by that I don't have a take

Yes you do I don't have a take I officially don't have a take I don't have a take a lot of weirdly scandalous photos I think they're just normal photos for an acrobat

that Billy is no I'm just what's her name Lindsay Mills Lindsay Lindsay Mills I think it's probably a lot of just like a woman and her body and Billy's like whoa

no it's just like when is she trying to show Well, the thing is she's posing in not too much clothes, but it's very acrobatic that it's like, what? It's strange. She's like an acrobatic model, basically. It's not that revealing, Billy. It's just a body man. It's okay.

No, you guys told me to Google her. Anyway. Okay. No, no, I'm looking. There's some, there's some revealing. I think she's just the model trying to be sexy. It's just like, it's weird seeing someone in lingerie doing a handstand. That's, that's weird, right?

Gross. I'm going to look it up where I'm going to look it up. Lindsay Mills, handstand. This is just for research purposes. Did you see the one where she's like coming out of a box? Huh? yeah it's just weird it's like it's not you know it's not

whatever it's like I wasn't like it's just weird acrobatic shit I know honestly I think yeah there's the one of her getting out of a box yeah it's pretty normal stuff Billy why are you freaking out about this? I'm not freaking out about I was just puzzled by it you're scared of her you are scared of her

so he got married they live in Russia right now and I wonder if we're even trying to get him we probably want him back right we're still actively trying to get him back They're probably going to kill her. I can't imagine if we've been actively trying for 10 years that we wouldn't have him. But who comes home first?

Snowden or Brittany Griner? Britney Griner. Yeah. Did you see Francis's blog? I do not. It was about it's Brittany Griner's fault that she hasn't escaped yet. Okay. It's just a ridiculous take.

It sounds like he's probably joking. Yeah. Okay. that was billy's verbal blog recap uh what is this big ass check you know sitting in front of that's billy oh yeah shout out uh billy's list uh for getting me number three in merch paluza um honestly we're thankful that uh we beat hank who created the contest so he could win it himself so that's big though i'm uh kate she got a stripper uh to come on the yak and the stripper got her to number one where she sat all week

it sounds like you're downplay very very odd accumulation of words that out of context make no fucking sis so yeah I was gonna I was gonna pretend like I understand what you're talking about and move on I think I'm gonna donate I think I'm gonna donate it all of it yeah it is it all this is barstool sports and then Billy I can't see the All these guys, it's 2K, which is probably getting taxed really.

I don't know what, because I basically did it because we had to, like, it was part of our jobs to compete in Merchpalooza. And I, you know, everyone did get me to this level and bought a ton of stuff. So I want to do something for everyone who sort of so that they get something out of it. So the people that that bought the stuff, you want to give something back to them? Yeah, but probably in the ways of content because that's. the easiest way to distribute it to all of them okay so so what's that going to be i think i'm to buy a tiger cub all right so this went pretty quickly to like give to charity to now billy's just going to buy a fucking wild animal and claim that this is for charity well it took great content

i thought that was illegal in new york i know it is i'm just i really lives in new jersey i was thinking of something ridiculous you should get a tiger's yeah i live uh i actually don't want to tell people where i with. Okay, he lives in some mysterious New Jersey city that starts with the letters H.O. And also the same city that Billy has publicly said that he lives in probably five dozen times before. I get paranoid. Let's see if anyone can guess where it is. First. Your luck crack in that case, Sherlock.

Billy, why don't you do a thing where you want to give away, right? Somebody on Billy's list. Yeah. Oh, well, I don't give away it. Oh, okay. I don't have enough money to pay everybody who helped. So just do a raffle. Do a raffle.

Do a raffle. Have like a contest. Yeah. I'm sorry, and then the winner gets to winning. Here's what we do. Everybody that retweets Billy's posting of macro dosing tomorrow, we're going to select one person from that list since Billy wants to give back so badly, that one person will receive Billy's prize money. How does that sound, Bill?

All the money? I mean, you said you wanted to give back. Let me think. Okay, Billy's going to think. Okay, if you send me, I'm going to put up a Google application, and you're going to have to subscribe to Macro Dose. you know what's where all the social subscribe to the podcast subscribe to the YouTube subscribe to the Instagram subscribe to the uh follow Twitter uh you need to follow every single

social TikTok and with that receipt of you following everything and you also have to be blocked by big tea you don't have to be blocked by big tea um I think that's a nice wrinkle you have to follow you have to follow big tea as well and Avery and Mad Dogg you don't have to follow PFT because he's almost at a million and I don't want it to surge and him miss his million. You know what I'm saying? I feel like there's too many requirements.

If you subscribe to our YouTube, if you subscribe to our YouTube, Billy will give you all the money. No, you guys, I'm going to put out a Google application. Oh my God. You have to submit all the pictures. Do all that and you will win a thousand dollars. Wow.

You're giving away a thousand, Billy. That's probably as much she's going to get. Well, I thought you were telling me to give. away all of it. No, I mean, it's up to you. I was just making a suggestion, but you really ran with it. Yeah, so you got to do that. I'm going to put out the application. You need a screenshot. Make it easy for me. Make a collage

with all the screenshots. Make it easy. Billy, you're getting a thousand bucks. So you guys, subscribe to everything. And then also go into Photoshop and make a collage for Billy. But your thousand will be taxed at 50% from

Big T. I am acting as the government in this situation. I get 50% of that for no reason whatsoever other than I want it. Just to teach you a lesson. Yep. Okay, yeah, we're giving away $1,000. We're got to do all those things. Yeah, we're at 24.9, so even if you

don't want to do it, subscribe to the YouTube. Yeah, I have a better way of doing this. If the YouTube gets 30K subscribers, we'll give away $1,000 to someone who's subscribed and followed to everything that we have. So then you get to keep the money for a little bit,

Billy just... That's pretty much what Billy's saying right now. Yeah, it'll get up to 30,000. So, Bill, we'll do it Billy's way, but Billy's way only gets unlocked if we hit 30,000 subscribers. Got it. How about that? All right, so Billy, I'm very excited. It's very nice of you to offer that. But I need... How are you determining who the winner's going to be? I have no

idea. We can do a randomizer. Yeah, randomize it. How else do you want to do it? Just include a... A picture of yourself? I'll tell you what we'll do. Just include a random picture and whoever has like the most brain tickling picture will win.

Just like something cool. or whatever Billy will choose it at random I will oversee the choosing and it will be good and it will be judged hopefully they classify it as a gift upstairs

I'm such an idiot why am I giving away $1,000 I don't know you said it's out in the ether now well I feel like I owe whatever let yeah you know you said that you want to give back to Billy's list I think it's very nice thing

but you said it and it's going to be tough to take it back now Billy You really talk to yourself in the next one. Hey, it ain't. I'll vouch for Billy here. If you don't want to give away your money, but I don't get that shit away. It's not too late to renege.

Billy? 500. 500. 500. It means you're getting $250 because how it goes to me. Billy will give away $500 of the dollars. We got about our big T tax. Big tax?

Listen, if I'm paying it, These people need to learn. This is a fact. This is why am I doing this? All right, Billy, you got it. Do we want to do any voicemails right now? So what I do just want to go around real quick and get, does, is anyone anti-Snowden? No, I think what he did was necessary.

Big tech, probably. There should be more like him. Who is anti-Snowden? Like in the general population? I mean, some people. I didn't know who he was before this week. I'm going to be real with everyone. So I'm still

getting my hands around it. But it sounds like he's on a criminal. Well, he technically is. Is he kind of like Robin Hood? He stole information and it was classified. It's part what they're accusing of Trump

right now, that he took classified government documents and a larger charge, which they're not accusing Trump of, is that he distributed him. And I think there's one more. But yeah, he's definitely a criminal under the law. But sometimes the spirit of the law supersedes the letter of the law, in my opinion. Like in the court of public opinion. Yep.

I think the majority of people don't think he's a criminal. I think the majority of people think that what he did was extremely necessary and opened up a can of worms, you know, peek behind the curtain of what the government is doing in their surveillance. Okay. I'd say a necessary criminal. Got it. You broke the law.

I don't agree with them on everything. but I think it was necessary for us to be an informed public what do you what do you not agree with him about there's a lot of stuff that I don't agree with how he sent everything out I don't agree like there was a lot of stuff that got caught up that had nothing to do with like the prism situation

that he sent he just did like a massive data dump I also think that he he strikes me as a guy who thinks that he is the protagonist of the world And so he saw this as an opportunity for him to be like, okay, I'm, I'm, I get to make my change in my imprint on the world. I think it was a little bit self-serving. There's a little bit. But it's fine. You can, you can do great things and be self-serving at the same time.

I mean, knowing what was at stake and knowing his freedom was going to get revoked from the United States, you don't think he had to develop a little bit of a, uh, a, uh, a, uh, a way. Woe as me? Yeah, I mean, probably a martyr complex, went along with that for sure. I mean, he did put himself in danger, so. But also now he's like, he is a citizen of a country that has, you know, more ruthless espionage capabilities and techniques than we have right now. Yeah, yeah, he fled to a hell of a country. But I understand at the same time, like, from a pragmatic standpoint, he's got to live somewhere. And he doesn't want to be shipped back to the United States because then he's going to go to jail probably for the rest of his life.

So I get that from both sides. But I also, I don't think he's, he's not like a, uh, he did something that I think I consider to be patriotic, but for certain reasons that, uh, aren't 100% altruistic. All right. I see that. Billy. Um. Patriot or criminal? Patriot?

Patriot, uh, Hmm. Patriot, but. Yeah, no, he's a patriot. Can I ask you a question? I'm, yeah. Does he have anything to do with net neutrality? Remember that?

No, no. Okay, those are different. Remember that, though? I do remember that. Okay. I just feel like I could have rung a bell on both of those, but never mind. Should I still care about net neutrality?

Yeah, I think in general you should, but it wasn't it wasn't the big like internet apocalypse that they were trying to make it. Yeah. Jeep pie. Basically net neutrality is a good principle to follow. You don't want, you don't want big internet companies and service providers to be able to charge you more for their internet.

So like Netflix. Oh, yeah, that's what it was. Like you don't know. That's what else. Yeah, there's a lot. goes on behind the scenes in terms of like routing bandwidth and things like that but it was not we were told back in like 2016 2017 yeah i remember that being like a huge deal yeah that if that bill passed we're like all fucked yeah yeah all right sorry that was dumb hmm i want to do

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theory you actually believe in or, like, would fight for. I feel like a lot of, a lot of the time you guys just disprove conspiracy theories, which most of them are pretty disprovable, but what's one that you actually, like, really truly believe, and other people might not? So, you know, stay gorgeous and all that, and keep it out. remember if you've answered this already i think we have because i think mine was that we invented flight like humans have invented flight before just a hundred years ago i don't know if that's a conspiracy or whatever but i think that i missed uh i missed the question he was hell as i felt like charlie brown he was he was hella mumbled um what's a conspiracy theory that you actually believe in

that other people don't wasn't that ancient conspiracies that we were doing maybe yeah yeah um Hmm Well Technically as of right now The U.S. blowing up the Nord Stream Typeline is kind of a conspiracy Billy's on that But like

I 100% think we definitely did it Also I think that Lee Harvey Oswald did not act alone And killing JFK You know what theory I saw recently That I hadn't looked into The storm drain There was a guy like you know

Oh, and the storm drain? Yeah, there was a guy like it, you know, creeping, like poking out and shot him from the storm drain. And that's how they escaped through the storm drain. Interesting. And popped out somewhere else. I think it was the CIA had a hand in it. The CIA, now I don't know who they teamed up with. It could have been the CIA teaming up with the mafia.

Could have been the CIA teaming up with Cubans. Or Russians? The CIA, how would the CIA team up with Russians or Cubans? To kill JFK. There's a big conspiracy out there that he teamed up with Cubans, that they teamed up with Cubans or Cuban exiles in the United States. Because JFK had gone after Cuba in the Bay of Pigs, and so they wanted him dead. I don't think it's that far out there. uh i got i got one um i think that um iawaska is like a gateway to what actually happens when we die

yeah the dn t release in your brain at death is the same to doing dn t that's scary yeah i think i think what actually happening is we're experiencing life um through this small lens of the electromagnetic spectrum were allowed to view it but there's so much more going on that our senses can't comprehend that when you die you kind of return to that and you're able to experience it more maybe you know what i thought about that you know how like if doing like doing drugs there's technically usually a feedback loop so like for example if you do testosterone there's a feedback loop and your body stops reducing some testosterone or like if you do uh you know other like molly you have like a depletion of dopamine the next day what if doing dmt gives you that near

when you die type experience but your body stops producing its own DMT if you do too much DMT and then when you die, you get none of that... DMT and you like don't go... And you don't go to like... You don't go to heaven in that like ethereal transition because you have no DMT.

It's almost like the DMT is the fuel on the rocket chip that would take you to heaven into the afterlife and if you use all it up. That's not the craziest thing I've ever heard. Not that it's fuel, but like... Like your body put it there for a reason, right? Yeah. But then like you're dying.

You're like, I did too much DMT. give me a ton of DMT right now yeah you have to smoke it as you die yeah about to die like it makes it a way more painful experience yeah DMT I want to go out on a drug I've never tried before like if I had a pick like I want to die like on some shit I've never done

like not OD but just like I'm about to die I know I'm about to die so I'm like let's just do a bunch of heroin yeah I've I've said that for a while like maybe even when I turn 99 years old Just like just load me up, man Start smoking opium Just yeah

Let me smoke opium And let me just Let me just be in a dream sequence For the rest of my life Until I pass away I'll be cool with that Yeah Well you actually

You probably will be Because they'll give you morphine For whatever's killing you Hopefully Thanks Billy You'll be really sick for a while In like the deathbed I'm not wishing that upon you

But like in the deathbed scenario Where you would be able to do a drug Yeah just load me up on Hit me with the opium I want the old school shit I want to smoke opium I want to shit that like No one talks about smoking opium anymore

It's always fentanyl this heroin that My buddy smoked opium in Thailand Was it cool? Yeah But his like It claws into you Like he had a hard time Getting out of that hut

Yeah He was just like one Like I think he was literally there for two days Yeah And people steal your shit Yeah and like Like his My other buddy

Who didn't do it like Had to like get him out of there. Yeah. Because once you start hitting that pipe, you're just in a opium den. Yeah, I would like to, I would like to go on an opium vacation. That would be cool. You know what? We, I actually don't want to do that because I, you get addicted. It's a very addictive thing. It would be really, like, if you do it, you need to have someone to pull you out. Yeah. So if you wanted to go do opium, I'd go in and get you. I've got a, uh, I had an idea. I don't know if I said it on this podcast or not

I think maybe I did say it on Tuesday Just like to get people off of heroin or meth Or fentanyl or whatever Just give them put them in a room with a shitload of weed And delicious snacks and all the good drinks that they want to have And just lock them in a room while they're coming down from heroin Just like have them stay high For an extended period of time

And make them as comfortable as possible That to me sounds like a pretty good rehab facility Like almost like sedating them Yeah, it's almost like sedating, but like you're, you're kind of numbing your brain to it a little bit. You know what's crazy? I wonder that would work. That you can die from alcohol withdrawals, but not opioid withdrawals. But you can feel like you're going to die from opiate withdrawals.

Yeah, I mean. I think the things that you can die from are alcohol and I think benzos. Yeah. I think you can die from benzodia withdrawals too, which are like a lot of anxiety medications. I'm pretty sure Xanax. Clonopin Larazepan maybe I don't know if that last one is

But I do know that like Clonopin Xanax If you're actually addicted to it And you quit cold turkey You can have a seizure And you can die from it Yeah Kind of crazy

Damn Are we got any more Yep In Macprosin crew This is Austin from Wisconsin I was wondering if you guys were making a macro dosing theme deck of cards and you had to assign a person to Jack,

do Ace, and the Joker, who would you assign each person to? I'm curious to see your guys' thoughts. I have my answers. I just wonder what you guys were thinking. As always, stay handsome, stay beautiful. And I'm pretty sure Big Teeth underwear is definitely navy blue today.

We haven't done that. Remember that? Yeah. Aaron, do you have a guess? You got to split back what he's talking to me. Do you have a guess on Big T's underwear, Aaron? Probably blue. It's gray.

There's no navy blue on it? No, it's all gray. That's why we stopped because I started just sucking at it. Yeah. I think I got like the first two right. We were on a roll for a while. The question was, name, in a deck of cards what everybody in this room right now what their personality or their role

on the podcast what that would correspond to in a deck of cards like for the face cards yeah or it could be a two he said two through ace right no he said jack through ace joker oh joker so so jack queen king ace joker i think billy is billy's joker yeah because he's wild card you're wild card Think about that way. You're a wild card, Bill. It doesn't mean jester. I mean, it's paid due to the top dog, you know? Bill, yeah, because you can be any, from one moment to the next.

You got range. It's a compliment. So then Big T's the Jack? I was going to say Big T's a 10. Oh, I was to see Big T's ace. Big Ten, right? Yeah. Ten isn't even one of the things he said.

But I'm giving you your Big Ten. Okay. Big Tennessee. I was going to say Big T's ace because he's either really high or really low. Oh, that's good too. Yeah, I like that one. What does that mean really higher, really low? Like you're either, your energy is like way, way up like it is what it was at the Tennessee game. No, I actually think I'm a very even keeled person. I think my energy is the same most of the time. But when you're in Tennessee, you got amped up up. Correct. But that's an outlier. I think that your energy is different, though. I think it's, if you're really amped up about something, you're really amped up about it. And if you don't care about something, you know that you don't care about it. I'm not saying that you're inconsistent. That's being consistent. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying.

I don't care what card I am. Okay, there you go. There's that negative energy. Yeah. That's not negative. Now we have Jack, Queen, and King. I mean, Mad Dogg is a queen. Thank you guys.

And then me and Avery, Jack and King. And then Aaron has to be something. I think you two can both be king. So we do need a 10. Okay. Or we can just have two of someone. Okay. I think, you know what?

I think you and Aryan are the kings. I think we're all kings. I think we're all kings, except for Mad Dog, she's a queen. Yeah. And Big T is an ace and Billy's a Jack. Or Joe, Joker, I mean. Okay, now they're saying Russia blew up the pipe. But that's not what your research indicated.

No. Why would Russia do that? To prove madman theory. So that we're more wary of Russia using a nuke. so it's just Putin being like dude I'm fucking loco yeah don't mess with me I'll destroy my country's lifeline

yeah I'll kill I'll kill everybody in this mouth including me I mean if you have that much power and you're dying yeah they said that it was a madman theory movie by Putin that's what the US is saying wasn't there a movie where some dude like

took a bunch of people including his own family host oh I think it was unusual suspects actually I think when they figure out who Kobayashi really is the true story of Kobayashi comes out that he had he shot his own family member to prove that he was so crazy that he didn't give a fuck. That's what Putin did

according to Billy's most recent research which has been thoroughly vetted right? Yeah but that's a theory so I don't want to I don't want if it comes out that Russia did it okay all right we got one more I want to do one more okay you know what the this is Alex

calling from beautiful Knoxville, Tennessee, on the eve of the Tennessee Florida game as a Tennessee fan put Florida until the day I die. Just wanted to get that off my shed. All got some people said, amen. Everybody stay beautiful and handsome and whatnot. Who knows? Maybe I'll see you in Marcus Square. Maybe you'll be like he-haha, this man is so funny. Let's invite him on the podcast. But, you know, I digress. Anyway, my question.

Who do you guys think would be more insufferable as a parent? Donald Trump is Baron Trump somehow got to the NBA or LeVar Ball at his beak? All right, thanks, guys. I think LeVar Ball is president. Oh, God. Like, switch him up. LeVar Ball becomes president of the United States. No, I think it's LeVar because I think Trump just doesn't.

doesn't care about Barron all that much. He cares about Don Jr. And Ivanka. I don't even really... The rest of his kids. I don't even think he cares about Don Jr. that much. Because Don Jr.

John Jr. cares about him a whole lot. Oh, yeah. Don Jr. is always like, hey, dad's my birthday. I thought that was Eric. I thought Eric is the one that he doesn't like. Eric, he doesn't like, but Don Jr. is like more involved. Don Jr. is the Kendall Roy of... Yeah, I think Don Jr., on January 6th, when he was given that speech he was like making a big deal out of how it was his birthday or like his birthday weekend no way yeah

and there's a and then don just doesn't care he's like okay great there's a story that when don junior was at upen that he was just getting hammered all the time and like was just a drunk and his father came one day and knocked him out in the doorway of his dorm because he was hammered and he was pissed at him that's a great story yeah that's something that's been in magazines and then has been going around UPenn for years. Wow. I've not heard that. That's the first I've heard. Yeah. But

I think he I think big team might be right. I don't think he cares that much about Barron. I think he'd like show up to the games like if he was in the NBA finals. He'd be like yeah, that's my team. But I don't think he actually I don't think he cares that team. Imagine Donald

Trump like shooting a basketball. I'm just imagining him throwing the paper towels. He's one of the best of all time. Ask Nick Adams. Pretty athletic, man. He dropped a hole in one not too long ago. Did he another one? Oh, yeah, that's right. The press release one. That was a great one. Yeah, I think LeVar Ball is president, especially if he got to debate Stephen A. Smith, if he ran for president against Stephen A. Smith, that would be fantastic content for America.

America's just become about content recently. There's real no substance to it. It's just like, it's all a content game. America's a content company. It's always been that, man. Yeah. George Washington was really into content. He was a blogger. Declaration of Independence was... The first blog. Yeah, subscribe to my substack.

If George Washington had a podcast, what would it be called? George Washington's podcast, it would be called... Liberty. Crossing the Teleware. It would be called... Just wooden teeth. What I was about to say what these wooden teeth can do I literally was about to come out of my mouth

That's hilarious. Yeah, I like that wooden teeth The founding pod fathers What that mouth do with George Washington? All right, Martha Martha, oh Martha gets a spinoff show Who do you think the greatest first lady of all time is? Nancy Well, who's the yeah, Nancy

She also sloppy She was the greatest at something. She runs back the George Washington podcast with the mouth to. Nancy Reagan and George Washington. What that mouth do? She got the IP. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I got wood in my mouth too.

That's that verbal meme with the handshake, handshake in the middle. George Washington. What? Nancy. Wood in mouth. Wood in mouth. You know what's George Washington's teeth? Not actually would.

Oh, here comes Billy to ruin the joke because, yeah, Billy, he had, yes, they were made from his slave's teeth. Yes, this bad, bad guy. I did some reading on James Madison over the course of the weekend because I did go to Jamie Ewen, our team is, our football team is pretty good, considering it's our first season in FBS. And I didn't realize that James Madison, he was, of course, as many leaders in Virginia were at the time, he was a slave owner, while publicly, taking like anti-slavery positions and then owning slaves and he he didn't even free his slaves when he died like if you look back on most most people that had that kind of dichotomy in terms of their mindset would write that their slaves would be free when they died which is like still very it's a hypocritical thing to do but james madison was like no no i don't really feel like doing

that so he was kind of a real piece of shit he was also five foot four and he weighed less than a hundred pounds he was just a little dude like just a little itty-bitty guy like you could step on him and probably kill him

this is a fun fact about James Madison um so uh roll dukes let's go Duke dogs so we will be back on Tuesday Tuesday in it right is a thing we'll be back right on the air on Tuesday with a very special guest indeed

Nazi ragin on Call Our Daddy It's a Collar Daddy crossover podcast So we will see you guys Next week Until then Love you guys You guys