Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Elon Musk
Episode Date: April 26, 2022On today's episode of Macrodosing, the entire crew is back to talk the CEO of Tesla Motors, Elon Musk. Hear everything from the start of his career to his most recent $44B purchase of Twitter. Also, P...FT and Billy go nuts over planes. You don't want to miss the longest episode in Macrodosing history. Episode 60!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing
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All right, let's get started with today's episode.
It's good to see everybody.
We got the full squad here, Mad Dog.
Avery, Big T, Billy, Arian, Coley, myself, whole squads here because we love you guys so very deeply.
And Coley, would you like to apologize to me?
I'll give you another opportunity to apologize for your take being wildly inaccurate
when I said that Kyrie Irving is a top three NBA player.
Looks like I was right about that as you.
Yeah, I mean, I do want to apologize because it's imperative.
I actually want to ask, do you have Durant also in that top five?
I hope so, because I want people to truly understand how impressive this is.
I don't want people to be like, oh, no, no, Coley was right.
Kyrie's like top 25.
No, no, no, they're both top three players in the league.
I think I originally said that Kyrie is a top five player when he's playing like that,
which you could make the argument when he's playing like that.
Yes, he is.
But I still have him in my top 10.
He's in my top 10, but the Celtics have just looked that much better.
and we're going to game four tonight.
Now, you should be afraid tonight, Coley,
because the NBA called in the big guns, Scott Foster.
Well, Scott E.F. got the emergency page from David Stern.
And it's like, hey, we need this series to go full seven games,
or at least drag it on a little bit to get some more eyeballs on it.
So tonight, if I were you, I would be very afraid of these nets.
I just can't be the officiatings.
Game three was fine.
there was like i don't remember any heinous calls one way or the other um the first two games
were so poorly officiated i can't even begin to picture what something worse would look like
so it's it's hard for me to fear that especially when like kairi just has that look like
if you've seen the video of him walking either in or out of the stadium where he just looks like
everyone who's about to put in their two weeks notice looks like that's the Celtics fans of
that before like he's got he's done he is out he tried his best game one credit to him didn't
work uh as he defended the rim uh as poorly as possible worse than troyon and that was that
like he the last two games he's been like handedly outplayed by payton pritchard which is a wild
thing to say that's actually true yes yes it is i also think that pey and pritchard i said this on
part of my take curious to hear your
feedback um he looks the most like a fan of the team that he plays on of any player in the nba
right now maybe step step kind of looks like he's a warriors fan yeah i'm trying to think um
like uh who who's the the idf soldier that's on the the wizards oh uh yeah shit i forget
It's like Denny.
I can't pronounce his last name.
It begins with an A, but it's definitely Denny.
He's in the conversation.
Kyle Lowry's got the heat of a Miami Heat fan, for sure.
Those cheeks you can see on South Beach any day of the week.
But yeah, Peyton Pritchard for sure.
I mean, he might not even be the white that looks most.
We've got a backup center who outside of the height looks more like the people in the stands.
um for for the Celtics so yeah yeah we definitely we might lead the league in players who could
also look like they're in the stands yeah Aaron Gordon looks a little bit like he could be a
nuggets fan too every time I don't know what this is but every time I watch the uh the nuggets
and the playoffs I keep waiting for Birdman to come out there in the back of my head I'm like
Chris Anderson still he's still in the league he's still coming out there doing like two
dunks a game that dude was so much fun to watch I miss the Birdman
Um, Aryan, what are your thoughts on the playoffs so far?
Where are we at?
I have not watched the game, man.
He's a baseball fan.
He doesn't have time for basketball.
You know, I'm out here.
Amuted yourself?
Damn, I bet.
You know, I hit the, uh, I hit the space where I does that by myself.
But, uh, I was at, I remember at the baseball game.
I've only been to four or five baseball games.
And I was sitting next to some old dude.
And I had a shorthy with me there, my shorthy.
And very, very different things.
And I was like, there was like, like, within three or four bats, there was like six foul balls.
I don't know if that's normal.
It might be.
But I was like, I was like a little fan.
And I told my girl, I was like, yo, in all my years of watching baseball, I've never seen this many foul balls.
It was funny.
People around me laughing, they get you had to be there.
But it was funny to shit.
I don't know, man.
I don't know what's going on with basketball.
I know I turned it on the last couple minutes,
the last night's game, the Nuggets and the Warriors.
And Steph made this three and might have had the cornyest celebration
I ever seen in my life.
Oh, my God.
That's my guide off.
Holy shit, that was bad.
His mouthpiece is getting bigger.
Arian, can you name all the series taking place right now, the NBA?
No, that's, wait, hey, that's not the question.
The question that we posted Billy was, can you name a series that's taking place?
besides the Celtics Nets and the Pelican's Sons, which was on at the time.
Okay.
And did he?
No.
No, no, you had to name all of them.
I named one.
Okay.
How many can you name, Aaron?
Keep it a buck, man.
When the Lakers, I just stopped watching basketball.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like, I saw a game last night.
So I know the Nuggets and the Warriors are playing.
shit let me let me let me let me let me shoot let me shoot my shot though let's see see did the
clippers make the playoffs not really and they didn't make the playoffs i'm not gonna i'm not
gonna be able to do this exactly you had clip its clippers rockets queued up and that would
have been an o for two damn we had an all time we had an all time stephen a smith discourse this
morning, though. Like Stephen A. Smith going in on the nets is so funny because he gets to talk
about Kyrie and Ben Simmons at the same time, which is, I mean, he's just taking batting
practice up there. He's hitting like 530-foot home runs, pimping them, putting on a show for
the fans. Earlier today, he said, when Russia invaded Ukraine, I thought there's a good chance
Kyrie Irving doesn't go to work today because he's experiencing the trauma of a war going on in
Europe right now. And then he was just going in on Vincent. It said like Ben Simmons is a bad
person. He's like the worst person in the world. He's not even talking about basketball anymore.
He's just talking about like somebody, somebody's personality. The genetic makeup of their character
is now fair game for Stephen A. Smith. It's almost too easy for him. They're giving them too much
material. I don't know. I feel like, I feel like tonight the Nets get one back. You can,
this is going to old takes expose myself. Nets by four tonight. Nets by four, Scott Foster is
to pull some magic it just has to happen there what's it what's in theory is that right now three
none three nil oh what the Celtics that yep what has happened we're beating the dog shit out of
them we're we're playing you depreciate it we're playing football on defense we're beating the
shit out of Kevin Durant he does not like it at all he's not a fan oh I didn't I see that coming
a three oh yeah i mean the celtics coli's right on defensive celtics are just very very good
and the nets haven't had enough time to play as a team this whole year so under why yeah don't
know so arian quick question what citation needed
arian quick question why haven't you been watching the nb a i'd really love basketball
man but i think just the way my life set up right now uh don't know
I've just been extremely disinterested in pretty much everything.
So I don't have a really good answer.
I play a lot of video games.
I read a lot of books.
That sounds a little elitist, but it's true.
He's sick of the player entitlement, all the player empowerment in the NBA.
Everybody's going woke, you know.
The NBA's going woke.
I think I know where Billy was going with that.
No, basically last night, I haven't watched much NBA
recently I've been more like watching boxing over the weekend and stuff and it was basically
being framed that the reason why I don't watch the NBA is because I am protesting. It's basically
how it was framed. But I just wanted to show that people who don't watch the NBA is not because
of that reason only. Well, you know, highest playoff ratings in over a decade, one notable absence
from the playoffs. That is interesting. That's very interesting. That ain't why.
Rui Hachamora.
He didn't make it.
No, he didn't make it.
Notable absence.
Ratings juggernaut, old Rui.
No, that's fun to talk about.
You could also say, like, are the ratings up because LeBron James is tweeting so much about the NBA playoffs?
Could be he's driving more traffic than if he was just playing.
Yes.
Wrong correlation.
He's better marketer than basketball player.
Yeah.
High key, Loki, he's a bigger influencer.
That's so funny.
that was so funny you missed that one arian who was he talking about jj reddick he's like j jraddick has
become quickly one of my favorite analysts in the games and he's low key slash high key funny
like words just do not mean things to people anymore like those are polar opposites like just
you just called the man funny yeah there's no low kiness or high keenness about it in that is a
ridiculous thing to say but in fairness to him those words do kind of mean the same thing now
Like people just say low key when they want to say something, but they don't, they want to distance themselves from it.
You might be, you might be new to Loki, but this has been going on for it.
No, that's, but to be fair, Aaron, that's what it's become to a certain, the people who have taken those phrases, they do mean it has no meaning.
Now, the origin of low key, high key, I want to be honest, I got, no, no, I'm not saying, I'm not saying, oh, brother.
I'm just saying, I got made fun of so much when I first came back to part of my take and I used it.
It was like such a foreign term to the rest of the guy.
No, I like how you're like, you know, like, go to the part of my thing.
I was it.
I was a hundred percent I brought it to part of my take.
We knew what it meant the entire time.
We were just like, Bill uses this phrase a lot.
Well, I mean, it's a.
You low key used it a lot.
I low key, I did, but high key, it's part of the vernacular that wasn't like 35 year olds.
Yeah, that's just cap
No
Low-key
LeBron James is
driving ratings to the NBA playoffs this year
Yeah
I guess high-key
You're low-key going to find me hanging
from the bathroom
If we keep going
That's high-key, that's high-key
That's not a funny joke
Yes, yeah
Yeah
Lo-key was not a joke
The second time
I'm super serious
It's the second time on this show,
Coley has threatened to kill himself over the NBA.
Yeah.
Oh, I've certainly done it more times than that.
Well, just NBA takes that I can remember.
Billy is Robert Williams,
who had a minor injury that kept him out,
not even the...
That was not known at the time.
True.
I just like that Billy has become, like,
the bro ambassador for the high-key, low-key experience.
You're Ryan Loki.
I don't know, but, like, the thing is,
I think Loki was, like, originally
like a like a bro phrase.
I don't know if it was cool.
Was it co-opted?
Because the only people I know who used it
basically started ironically
from this kid who's like
shout out Rento
who'd always drop it
and then we started ironically
saying it then it became part of the lexicon.
No, Billy's friend Rento
invented Loki. We know that
Billy. You can look that up. You can
trace the etymology of it.
High key. Rento invented
Loki, which was then co-opted by him, by everybody in the world. So he invented the phrase.
I don't know where it came from. That's where I first heard it. Is Rento on Billy's list?
No, Rento.
He's the word guy. He's got a lot of really good things. Give me an update on how the list is going
right now. Oh, the list is became, so they're having a, we're having a yacht party at some point
this week. One of the dudes has a yacht. He's taking it from, I think he's like,
I think he's low-key, like, moving it.
Sorry.
Yeah, you mean it's a boat, so it's in the water.
It's not, I don't know if it's his boat or he's just in charge of moving it to someone else, but we're allowed.
Yeah, I'm going to get caught up.
But we're out of it.
Sounds like he stole a boat.
He's docking it.
He's taking from like, you know, Florida to Maine or something.
He's docking around New Jersey, New York at some point.
So we're going to have a little meetup.
It's an awesome.
So, like, it's so great.
So many dudes who are unemployed, found jobs through the list, which is great, which was actually the best part about enlisting.
I was only going to make like one profession each, but now they've all like made their subgroups amongst the list.
So this discord's popping.
And it's a great resource.
Like whenever I got a lot of consultation from an astronomer about my UFO post, like there was this one about this object that looked like it was sucking plasma from the sun as fuel.
if it was like a UFO ship,
but it was really just a solar phenomenon.
I found that out through there.
It's really an awesome place.
So if it wasn't for you,
you never would have known
that this wasn't an object
sucking plasma from the sun
as to refuel as like a gas station.
I was probably saying you thought an object
was sucking plasma from the sun.
Well, you know,
that would be a great thing about it.
Imagine if you created a vehicle
that found its resource was
sucking energy from different stars
and different solar systems.
and then that's how like they got around because there's so many stars grabbing a j titty's life
just sucks all the energy from the sun oh my god actually i'm going to make that meme right now
that object and just put a j titty's on the object that's good it's sucking plasma off the sun
that'll be a good meme yeah Elon if you're listening billy's got a great idea it's just like i feel
like he would be really into that just sending a spaceship to go suck energy from the sun
dude we got also Elon let AJ Teddy's back on Twitter yeah what the fuck she got banned just
because she used to post hardcore pornography of herself every single day it's messed up
it's free speech the when is the when is the Elon takeover it I think they're finalizing
it today he they struck a deal this funding has been secured it could be happening right now
so the funding had been secured for Elon and now Twitter is meeting and having a discussion
with him and it seems like all
signs are pointing in the direction that Elon is going to take over
Twitter. Oh damn guys
what? Oldest person in the world
Kane Tanaka dies in Japan age 119 let's have a moment of silence
all right thank you let's continue
what's the final price tag
119 no for Twitter
43 billion or something like that was his final
price tag though yeah
it sure was
Yeah, it was like 45.
That she was vaccinated.
That has to be the worst spending of $45 billion of all time.
But that's why it's like the only spending of $45 billion of all time.
But it's not always.
That is actually a combine one of the only for sure.
What is the most expensive thing like ever bought?
Yeah.
Twitter's got to be up there, right?
For sure.
It's up there with like nuclear missiles.
Like.
Yeah.
Of a private citizen, that's got to be.
Wait, wait, how much was Alaska in today's dollars?
Alaska wasn't shit.
He got for a bargain.
Like 30 grand.
Alaska was like a player to be named later.
But like God, Alaska's only 125 million.
Yeah.
Seward's folly.
But yeah, like of a private citizen, I can't think of anything that was.
But think about it, it's not all his money.
A lot of it's backed by his assets as a form of a loan.
Sure, but he still bought it.
But he's buying it using.
He's financed.
He's bought a finance.
He took on debt using his current financial holdings as, as, as,
collateral. So it is kind of Twitter even his money. Profitable like that? Twitter's never been
profitable. Yeah. Part of why it's a bad investment. Well, it's profitable if basically, if you can
allow the thoughts and ideas that you think are being suppressed that may make you money in the
future. No, no. That was why it wasn't profitable because of all those unsuppressed thoughts and
ideas. It is, what was it? Iger? Was it Bob Iger who said, we'll never buy that hell hole? He was
right that was the right take 46.5 billion yeah who who knows like just monetizing twitter is going to
be a challenge regardless of who you have not banned from the site and who you have on the site like
just the format of twitter doesn't really lend itself to unless you make it a subscription service
um i don't see like an easy way because anytime you see an ad on twitter i mean we got big t over
here muting the phrase official ride share partner correct it's tough
It's tough to make money because, like, everybody hates ads on Twitter.
When you see, like, a promoted tweet, you just scroll past you.
You're like, how many times do I need to see Kate Upton advertising her video game?
Every time.
Yeah, it's true.
Every time, probably.
I saw this quote recently that really changed my whole perspective on the monetary system.
And it said you can either make money two ways, selling your time or assuming risk.
And I was like, fuck.
I don't like what you did with your eyebrows when you said that.
And I was like, I was like, I got to assume.
And they say.
that the richest people in the world
all just all assumed risk
I was like what the fuck
you feel like I feel like I assume some risk
you could fall into the hustle Twitter trap
pretty easily though no I'm in it
the grind set I'm too late
too late I'm in it
what would you rather have 50 million dollars
or a book that taught you how to make 50 million
I'd rather be 50 billion dollars in debt
I'd rather have negative 50 billion dollars
I'd rather be in debt paying interest on that debt
and turning that money into more
money. That story that Donald Trump, when he was like, I want to say $2 billion in debt or
$1.3 billion, something like that, he was driving out of street. He saw a homeless guy on the corner.
He said, look at that man. That man has $1.3 billion more than I do right now. And then he
overcame everything. And then he took a baseball, I saw a guy beating up a guy with a baseball
bat. Then he hopped out and stopped him, said, hey, I forgot about that way. Stop beating up that
guy with the baseball bat. Yeah, I forgot about that. That was a great story.
So, anyway, what else do we need to talk about before we get to Elon stuff today?
You got a lot.
You just see that dude talking about homeless people.
I quote tweeted it.
I think it was some of the Tennessee legislator.
Could be wrong about the state.
Yeah.
He was expecting the old pull yourself up by your bootstrap shit.
And he referenced Hitler who lived on the streets as a homeless man.
And he was like basically saying if Hitler can pull himself up.
Like, this is the weirdest shit.
The real problem is our homeless are using opioids, not meth.
You see, Hitler used meth, and that got him out of homelessness.
That's the difference.
Productivity.
So it's funny because anytime somebody learns a fact about Hitler, they feel the need to discuss it in a public forum.
And so that guy just learned that Hitler was homeless.
He's like, I know.
Look at the pot talking about the kettle right now.
He's like, I know exactly the place to bring this up.
It's on the floor.
it's on the floor of our state legislature uh yeah he said like you know you know who else was
homeless was hitler and because we had good social services he was able he was able to become uh
you know very successful in his line of work which was politics but ultimately you know he did
bad things it's like great point great point sir yeah i see i see where you come from the
mentality was there the ideas weren't yeah the grind set the grind set was there what's the
the Einstein quote that's going around
there was it was like really
I think it struck me as a phrase
that was really popular on
on LinkedIn it felt like a LinkedIn meme
that started and then it made its way over
Twitter and then a bunch of people
started talking about this Einstein story
where he was guest lecturing
in a college
environment and then he wrote down like
the nine multiplication tables
on the board and then
when it got to the 80s
he wrote nine times nine equals
82. And then everybody in the class started to laugh at him. He's like, I did that as an
experiment to show you that even though I was successful eight times in a row, you only picked
out the one time that I wasn't and you made fun of me for it. And so that was like a big learning
experience for Einstein. Story definitely did not happen, but everybody was shared. I vibe with that.
I'm about to call super cap. I vibe with that. I'm about to spit a lot of facts,
but I might get one thing wrong when no one will talk about all the facts. Are you, are you, are you high?
right now.
I'm maybe microdosing.
No, that's facts, Billy.
They shot your failures
and whisper your accomplice.
Exactly.
Not big tea spitting Drake bars.
What the fuck is going on this episode, bro?
Dude,
today's a three cup of green tea day.
That's what we're riding on.
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
I was right.
It is a LinkedIn post.
So one day Albert Einstein wrote on the blackboard,
nine times one equals nine times two is 18,
et cetera, et cetera, et cetera,
until he got to nine times 10, which equaled 91.
in class they mocked him and made fun of him because he had made a mistake as a correct answer for nine times ten is 90
Albert Einstein waited for everyone to shut up and said despite me answering the first nine questions correctly
no one congratulated me instead when I got one wrong everyone started laughing this means that despite
being very successful society will only notice the smallest mistake and make fun of it don't let simple
criticism destroy your dreams the morale of this story only those who do nothing don't make mistakes
work hard every day, Albert Einstein.
Oh, man.
So true.
That's trash.
Oh, that did not happen.
It's really bad.
That's one of the worst ones that I've seen.
You know when Dan Olavsky's posted on Twitter, it's some heat.
So we can get into the Elon story here, or is there anything else we'd like to discuss?
Oh, there's one thing.
There's one thing.
It got no news.
Oh.
The fake news media.
You have no idea what I'm about to say.
I think I do.
okay I bet you write it down
okay write it down do you want to
just just say it I won't I won't
let's bet
no I'm gonna write down
I got 50 bucks on Billy not right
a thousand a thousand percent
minus four thousand
you're not gonna make 40 cents
I hope he nails it
if you're not right
you gotta send me some Billy's list merch
oh shit
if I'm right
I'll send you a push a t-shirt
he just dropped it back
Billy, that's like
fire album by the way.
Why did you grunt?
That's like really good branding for you.
Because it's sacred.
Yeah.
The list is sacred.
How many running backs do you have on your list?
What is this second?
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Go.
I've got,
I've got Billy's guess in hand.
All right.
I was going to talk about a man named Bruce Wynn.
I don't think.
I don't think this is it.
It could be.
Keep going.
Wait, wait.
Now let's create a synthetic market on what Billy's guess was.
Does anybody have any idea
what Billy's guess for Aryan's guess was.
Something amphibian-based.
No, no, no.
No.
Maybe.
Don't joke about it.
Uh, I don't know.
It appears to be an underreported story because I have no idea about it.
Something about Trump.
Something about Trump.
Marjorie being held in contempt.
Marjorie Taylor Green's deposition.
Definitely not underreported.
No.
arguably severely
overreported
food warehouse fires
is what he has written here
okay
are you talking about
Glenn Taylor the owner of the Timberwolves
no there's some
it's fake news
I think I'm wrong
what was it Aryan sorry
well say what you're gonna say
because this takes a tiny serious turn
but I mean a little bit
well this is pretty serious too
okay well I'll just say
okay go ahead go ahead go ahead go ahead go ahead no go ahead
Basically, there was a story that was propagated about a bunch of food distribution centers being burnt down in the U.S., and everybody was like the Johnny Depp trials distracting from the food distribution warehouse is being burnt down, six of them apparently, saying that like something's going on.
But I heavily researched it, consulted with the list that it all comes from these very far-right websites.
Got it.
and they're not not trustworthy yeah you're giving this how many how many pinocchioes are you
like a basically a plane so there was a general mills plant that a plane crashed into yeah probably
would have heard about that which was a real that for sure it makes the news no but that was a real
fact and then there was another a couple but like if you look at it they're all individual plants
they're not sort of like major like there's so many of these types of plants across the u.s
that it's almost like saying you know there was a bunch of car crashes today like is there
a war on cars that's a good point yeah cars are dropping like flies out there like that take i
looked at it statistically all right so if you're snopes what are you giving this well mostly
false snopes is a freaking probably one of the worst things to talk to them bill
Yeah, dude, you know fucking snobs throw.
I'd like to hear, I like to hear why.
Dude, Snopes has been corrected several times.
I mean, like, Snopes has been wrong about.
This is the Einstein thing we just talked about.
Yeah, but like it, I don't know.
I'm genuinely curious.
I don't know.
Like, what were they wrong about?
Okay, let's find some.
A big to you probably like, so for example, the lab leak hypothesis.
I do hate Snopes, but I'm not, I'm not on this one.
We came to the last week thing
were they saying
like there's no evidence
whatever, let's move on
like I'm not here to debate Snopes
let's get into what's going on
I was just curious
I was asking questions
I'm you guys brought up Snopes
I'm not here to defend or attack Snopes
you see I'm not gonna get into arguments
anymore where I'm not prepared
and then everyone just like fillets me
and then we have a fucking
Soviet architecture discussion
I just asked why
I don't know enough about Snopes
but I always hear
from the right
I always hear
Snopes, oh, that's no, they don't, I've never heard why.
I just hear that they're not asking, but I think, I think on several occasions,
they've had some things that were pretty partisan that were probably wrong about.
Yeah.
I, I, I don't have a dog in this race.
I'm just saying, I would like to see.
I don't, I've never seen it.
Snopes has some stuff written about me that is factually false.
My general background on Snopes, I've always thought that they, they try to get things right.
I don't think that they intentionally go one way or the other.
They just try to figure out what's the truth and what's not.
And they have been wrong in the past.
Yeah.
Well, I think it's kind of like Twitter where they, are they trying to be correct?
Maybe.
I think so.
I think they've got good intentions.
But they have a partisan lean to it.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
I think that's fair to say about Snopes.
But I think that they research in good faith for the most part.
Unless, I don't know, I haven't used Snopes in a couple years.
Yeah.
I don't know that they're in.
Intentionally trying to get things wrong.
Yeah.
All right.
So sorry, Aaron.
That was quite a couple side tracks there.
Quite the deviation.
No, that's all good.
I owe you a shirt,
yeah,
you do.
Yeah,
I'm a sweatshirt.
I got a,
the hats are pretty cool too.
I don't want to.
Actually,
for guys on the list,
the new merch will be live
by the time you listen to this.
Perfect.
Is it,
you got any black shirts?
No,
just white,
but we can work on that.
Colley,
why you look like
you ain't supposed to be eating
that right now like you ducked off and he's a shame it's on youtube i don't like to be rude
you look like a dude you look like a dude in home room who didn't eat breakfast and he's trying
not to get away from getting away we don't right anyway there's uh there's a and i fuck
this name up uh there's a climate activist win alan bruce he set himself on fire uh in front
of the outside of the u.s supreme court in protest to climate change because not enough not enough
not enough is doing and he died because it because of it so it's like there's a whole bunch that
it's really not getting any press like it should um there's like a lot of climate activists climate
scientists that are like protesting they chain themselves outside of uh places saying like yo y'all
are not fucking listening to us like it shit is getting dire in their eyes and uh this dude
set himself on fire and apparently he was a buddhist i read up a little bit on it he was a buddhist
so he wasn't like like a suicidal cat like he he just believed in what
he was doing at a very high rate and it's not and it's kind of getting reported like a suicide but
it's not necessarily that it's more so like a political protest which he was trying to get lots
garnered lots of attention and it's just not and that just shows you kind of where we're at but i just
want to you know give him a little light because that shit is important i believe that climate change
the real thing i've done my what i feel is my due diligence and talk to people in that field and it's a real
press in this you know i just wanted to give light so rest and peace to my man win out
and bros and much love to his family yeah i i saw i saw that news story yesterday
that's a type of commitment that i don't think a lot of people can even fathom just lighting
yourself on fire i do not have that that's a strategy used by buddhist multiple time over history
back in the vietnam era yeah i think in tamed right uh it's probably happened over there yeah
It was the cover that Rage Against Machine Self-Titled album was probably the most famous example.
It's crazy.
It's, yeah, that is, that's some serious stuff.
If we're sticking with underreported stuff, has there been a single follow-up to that guy who blew up that truck?
Was that in Nashville?
Dude, I saw the scariest.
Are you talking about, like, Christmas?
Yeah.
Was it Christmas or New Year's.
It was Christmas Eve.
Yeah, PFT.
I remember if we talked about it.
this on the show or not, but we talked about it
in private. Yeah, you
never heard. Well, the guy died
right? You guys see the video? I think he
was the only one because like the street was empty.
Well, he put the thing on his
truck that said like leave now, like this
thing's about to blow up.
He was like blasting sirens or something. Yeah.
But it was to, I think the
motivation was the AT&T
building, which is
NSA. One of the largest
telecommunication hubs
in the country. And so,
But yeah, there was never really any follow-up on it that I recall.
Yeah, that one's a sketchy one.
That one, you know.
Super sketchy.
Dude, we can get into that, but it's going to be a long.
There's also just maybe it's not as sketchy.
Maybe he's just a guy that was like woefully misguided and then drove his truck to downtown Nashville and blew it up and only heard itself.
Sure, but like the follow-up should be like who misguided him.
Where do the misguiding come from?
How do we prevent this from happening again?
Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair.
Anything else we want to get into?
We will be at the Capitals game on Friday.
Caps Rangers game.
Actually, I do need to put in the order for this ticket.
So who is officially going?
On Friday?
Yeah.
I would go.
All right, Mad Dog, you're in.
Avery, you're in.
I don't know if I can.
I know.
I have massive people.
plans that I've had for like two months
fake fans it's a
it's the last game of the regular
season oh yeah that that's not important
guys listen
guys need rest before the playoffs right
yeah I need my load management
before the playoffs it's going to be a long
run for the Rangers this year so I need
it yeah it's looking more and more like
it's going to be the Caps and the Rangers
yeah they're separated by one point
right now caps have a game in hand
so that game could essentially
decide what happens and
if I were the Rangers, if I'm putting myself in your shoes, I would rather play the
capitals. I just, I mean, this is the thing about the playoffs. You have to pretty much play
everybody. Obviously, you'd like a favorable matchup, but everybody's going to be tough. It's a
different animal. And you just got to beat the best teams to win. I'm afraid of the Rangers. I'm
more afraid of the Panthers, but I am also afraid of the Rangers. So I don't really like either
matchup. I would just rather play against the Rangers so I could go to a game in the playoffs.
Yeah, absolutely.
Go to the Mecca for a playoff game.
See that atmosphere there.
Big T, do you want to go?
Yeah, man.
I do appreciate our sponsor game time for offering that, though.
And Billy, do you want to go?
I've had plans for a long time this weekend, sorry.
All right, so Mad Dog, Big T, not Avery, because he's not a true fan.
Load management.
Load management.
Myself, I guess Nate will come, and I'll look into maybe if any of the other Rangers
fans out there want to go but it'll be fun shout out game time for getting us in the door we
appreciate you guys so you guys want to get into some elon stuff the backstory dude this this was a
this is a 25 pager prep notes yeah did you share the sheet with anybody yeah also one of our
best timed topics because we picked this topic before the news came out today yeah so we nailed
that one so let's start out real quick let's let's just we'll kind of work backwards in time a little
here let's start from present day
Elon is probably
going to take over Twitter
curious to know if you guys
have any rules that you would like to see
Elon implement on Twitter
I've got a couple
I can start
I think that if you have more than
three emojis in your username
boom band gone
I don't like those I don't like that
it's too confusing why
because that's artistic
that's freedom of speech yeah but it's annoying
I always know not to take those people
Well, tell them it's annoying
Don't get them off
Second, you should be able to get voted off Twitter
If you have
Oh, yeah
Oh man
If you have 95% of people that vote you off
You're gone
So I can think of one person
That this would apply to literally one person
Keith Olberman
Two people, yeah
KO would be you get out of there
There's who's the other
I mean you got to know who's
the other one is.
Okay.
A long,
longstanding rival of myself.
The Empire State Building.
No.
No.
It's Revelle.
Yeah.
It's Revelle.
It's Revelle.
I think if you put it up to a general poll, we're looking at 97, 98% of people would want
Darren off.
Now, I personally would vote for him to stay on because he does provide a lot of
unintentional hilarity and content.
And I'm just fascinated to see how his brain works sometimes.
But I think that I think the numbers would be up in the high 90%.
cents for Darren Rebell to get kicked off.
Also, get rid of the people
that reply to posts with
a link to like a spam t-shirt website.
Oh, boy.
Those bots.
I think that is one of his goals. Yeah, he's getting rid of
all the bots. So, but wait,
if he starts going after bots,
then isn't that
silencing speech? No, because
they're robots. But they're controlled
by people who. Yeah, they didn't come out of nowhere.
I think I'm honestly, if we're going to start like
Slippery slope there.
War on the robots type stuff.
We got to start now while they're weak.
Well, Elon loves robots.
That's the thing about Elon is he's a big believer in that thought experiment that we discussed earlier on the show.
The Roco's Basilisk.
Yeah.
Elon, he's one of the Silicon Valley guys that thinks that there's some truth to that to, like, creating a very powerful artificial intelligence system because he thinks that if he doesn't create it, it will punish him.
Yeah, or you could be on the team of committing hate crimes against robots.
Like, you know, those things that deliver stuff on college campuses.
I love the videos when people are just being the shit out of them and destroying them.
That freaked me out when I was at JMU back in October.
I saw the little cars going down the roads that are delivering food to you in your dorms.
And it just pissed me off.
I want to go up and just like tip it over on its side like a turtle.
Just kidding.
That was a joke.
You shouldn't commit hate crimes for any reason, even monks.
Even on our robot friends.
Anybody else have any suggestions for Elon?
Yeah.
Delete it.
Just delete the stuff.
Take the code, throw it into the ocean.
I think we'd all be better.
That'd be interesting.
I don't know what that one either.
Big T.
I really just have one thing.
I just want, we got to curtail this miss slash disinformation deal.
You love the misinformation.
No, I love.
You have one political party, essentially.
A group of people.
who are incredibly ideologically homogenous, who believe, who will tell you that men can get
pregnant, who are deciding what misinformation is. And I think we need to curtail that.
That's a nuance, that's a nuanced conversation in which you are misrepresenting.
Misinformation that often turns out to be true.
Okay.
Like, often. What's your metric for often? Often enough that we shouldn't be.
What is your metric?
I don't know. I don't have.
I don't have a percentage.
What words mean things?
Sure, but there have been enough instances of things like Hunter Biden or the lab leak theory or a ton of shit to do with COVID.
That's two.
That's two.
Yes, but it happens often enough that you shouldn't be saying these opinions you can't share
because we deem them to be wrong.
Those are ones that have just turned out to be like provably correct.
I don't know shit about Hunter Biden or his laptop.
But you really don't understand the reason why you need to curtail hot button issues and make sure that it's just not a free-for-all.
You don't understand that?
Define free-for-all.
Well, so it's an interesting conversation because you've got, you obviously on a platform can't have people posting child pornography, right?
Of course.
So this is, those are not, that's an incredibly.
unfair example.
No, no, I'm saying like I'm using that...
Those are not the same thing.
I'm using that to establish a baseline of facts that we do need some sort of content
moderation. It can't be a free-for-all, right?
Sure. But you... Where is that line?
That line is if there's a very
mainstream opinion about something that's not like,
you know, out of bounds in any way.
That's the thing. Is the out-of-bounds in any way,
conservatives, they just have no filter for it,
Unless it's child pornography.
That's their line, right?
Unless you're Disney.
But like the issue is, is if, let's take COVID, for instance, right?
If the misinformation is actually harming people, right?
If it's actually putting people at risk, then yeah, it should be, it should be regulated.
What?
And you're saying it.
What about saying, I think, I find it plausible that the city where,
the city where there was a coronavirus lab
could this could have escaped from the lab
studying coronaviruses what about that
is harming people i don't think that you don't think that was that how we said
that's what i'm saying nothing is harmful about that but that's not how
you know that opinion yeah because they weren't certain money they were not sharing
that opinion they were sharing that opinion in concordance with the china flu
the china virus that it was in this like racist ass rhetoric
like and you and then people would be like what it's from china to china virus like there's a difference
in how you say shit there's a there is a diplomatic way to say there like you said that that is a
diplomatic way to say it but that is not how it and if you're saying that's how it was being said
bro it's that's disingenuous but even if it wasn't even if it wasn't but it was okay sure
but if you said that there's a good chance that would have been flagged by twitter so by the way
Real quick.
Good chance is, I don't know.
You know, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, but.
Do you mean flagged like they would just put something under the tweets?
I don't know.
I never, you know, tweeted that.
So it never happened to me.
I don't know exactly what would happen.
But I'm sure some, something similar to that or it might have been taken out.
I don't know.
But that, but that's an opinion we know was suppressed by Twitter.
Now, I got, I got an opinion now.
Let's, I'm posing a question.
Do we really think?
that though that type of rhetoric was suppressed because they were trying to prevent racism and
xenophobia or they wanted to make sure that no one could be allocated blame because if saying
it was a lab leak saying then it something happened would have to hold someone accountable and
if you look at who controls and has a lot of money in these various tech companies through
you know connections and means you may say that there was a concerted effort to stop any allocation
of blame in order to make sure the people
who have very vested interest in these companies
do not get punished ever.
Why is it either or?
Why is it either or?
Because.
Yeah, it could be both.
Because that was not an answer.
But why is it either or?
Why is it either or?
I think.
But what do you think is the larger driver?
But this discourse is precisely why it should be moderated.
Because information coming from,
from here. Information come from here. We don't know the sort. We don't know things are accurate until
time has played out. So it's just safer for civil discourse, right? Because we're already in a
Twitter. Big T. How about this? But this is what I'm saying. We don't know. So let's just
wait until the fast come out. We don't know. So let's stop one side from sharing. No.
You think Tom, the dude from fucking working at UPS is going to crack the fucking case on the
COVID? Get the fuck out of here, bro. But why is Twitter? I think that's. Oh, big T.
Because that's what they do.
Their job is to moderate civil discourse.
It's not.
It's not.
That's the whole point.
It is their job.
This is little their platform, fam.
What are you talking about?
Then they're a publisher.
Okay.
Okay.
So that changes the entire nature of their business.
They're not a publisher.
Wait, how did you make that?
If they are moderating things set on the platform, they are a publisher.
But you have to monitor.
How does that make you a publisher?
How does you how does it?
They are scrolling the content.
instead of being a conduit of, their argument is why they shouldn't be regulated by the government
is that they are not a publisher. They're simply a conduit for other people's opinions.
If they are, if they're moderating the things they're on that website to an extent that I think
we all agree they are, whether you think it's right or wrong. No, they're not. They are a
publisher. So, but here's the thing. They're not. That is a horrible, what? So,
it's not. As, as a company. So you're saying any, I'm saying, so you're saying any moderation is no longer
No, no, I just said, to the extent that I think we all agree they are.
There you go.
Well, we don't agree.
You just said, you just, hang on, hang on.
I'm not arguing whether it's right or wrong.
You just said like in instances like COVID, things like that, you need someone moderating
opinions.
And I think you and I agree that they are doing that.
I'm not saying whether it's right or wrong.
I think you and I agree that they are moderating things like that.
Right, that's all I said.
But they kind of have to be because they're a publicly traded company, right?
So their first interest always has to be in the interest of the shareholders, which your shareholders want to be invested in a company that's not paying hundreds of millions of dollars out in lawsuits and things like that.
So in order to make sure that your investors are well taken care of, you have to take proactive measures to take things off your platform that could.
then be used later in court to prove that you're liable for if there's an attack on somebody
or if it's proven that you're turning a blind eye to certain rhetoric, which then ends up
costing your company and money lawsuits down the line. It's your duty to the shareholders to take
that off. Now, Elon is talking about like making it private, which sure, I don't understand
why Twitter was ever like a publicly traded company based on what we've talked about already,
which is how hard it is to make sure that they turn profitable.
I think that maybe taking a private might be the right move.
But I'm saying in the position there,
and they really are in a no-win situation
where they have to moderate in order to make sure
that they don't get exposed to these lawsuits.
But then if they moderate things that end up not needing to be moderated down the line,
then everyone's like, whoa, what the fuck?
You shouldn't have moderated this.
I guess I would just ask,
do you think they are solely doing that in the effort to curtail things,
which you just described?
Or do you think it's possible?
there's an ideological bent to what they've been doing.
Well, yeah, because there's one, there are individuals that are responsible for deciding
what gets removed and what doesn't.
And the individuals that work at the company are going to have leanings one way or the other.
They're going to have different personalities.
They're going to have different standards for what to them constitutes being a violation
of the posting guidelines.
So it does come down to individual decisions at some point.
But you're not going to ever find a company in this day and age that's going to be, because
here's what's happened every time that there's a new website that pops up that's like we are the
free for all we are total freedom of speech say whatever you want that company eventually gets
shut down because their users are such fucking idiots that they post like willfully violent disgusting
things and then they have to shut that down and then a new one pops up it's like hey that old
company is moderating your shit now we're the new free speech guys and then eventually it falls
in the same thing well that's that's the concept between behind a chance that's the chance
Yeah, the chance.
Yeah, the chance.
It happens all the time because one organization is like, well, you can post all the stuff that will get you kicked off the other ones.
They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, not that.
Not that stuff.
And then another company just comes in over the top.
It's like a never ending cycle when it comes to that.
So there's no real, like this is kind of the world that we live in where there's always going to be some level of moderation.
Big T.
How about this?
Because I understand your point.
You like baseball, right?
Sure do.
Okay.
you're familiar with strikes i am okay so because i think what me and arian are coming from
the people who were pushing what you were saying in a much different tone have a history of
being disingenuous do we agree on that or no for the sake of the argument i'll let you say that
i don't know that that's necessarily correct but okay sure it's painting with a broad brush i
understand um but more often than not so how about this you get three strikes if you're
proven to be incorrect via being disingenuous. You do it three times. You don't get to talk
about important things anymore. You just can't because then now at least I know when you're
putting for something, it's you mean it. Like it's not just, oh, I'm, I'm an asshole always. You know
I'm being captain asshole loudmouth all the fucking time. Because that's what the discourse has
been for eight years now. Just disingenuous thought. And that's on, that's everyone. Like everyone's a
fucking dickhead. One side just seems to be doing it a little more.
vitriolic than the other. Yeah, and that's fine. That's something that you could maybe talk to me
about. But like, I also think there's something where the, the libs of TikTok thing that happened last week.
Yeah, that was that woman had, I'm looking at a tweet right now, it's a picture of, of a rifle,
assassination mode activated, target her name, begin operation. She reported that tweet. Nothing was done
about it. And then you have tweets from
the other side of the aisle. How do we know nothing
was done about that? I'm just curious because I'm not familiar with that. There's the
reply from Twitter. Hello, thanks for reaching out. We've reviewed the content
didn't find a violation of our policy. So no action will be taken at this time.
Yeah. Um, and then are we sure that was about the same report or could it have been about
a different one? It's all in the same. I feel like that's pretty straightforward.
It has like it has the ad. It has the, I will send you a screenshot. It has the at in the reply.
And then you have tweets from conservatives, generally, toward, not even toward people about certain subjects that are, you know, this violated our guidelines or whatever.
I just think there needs to be, and I've said on this show before, I don't think Elon Musk buying Twitter is necessarily a good thing or is going to change this for the better, but there needs to be some sort of middle ground in this stuff.
By the way, because there isn't...
You want the company regulated by conservatives.
No, no, no, no.
I want a middle ground.
There's no middle ground, dog.
You either being an asshole or you're not being an asshole.
That's really quick.
There is an undeniable ideological bent to the way Twitter has done things.
That's not true.
That's not true.
I've reported the other side and they don't do shit about it ever.
Really?
So you can do that one time.
Paper shark, man.
So really quickly for the context of the listeners, lips of TikTok was a Twitter account that would take videos from TikTok and posted to Twitter.
Well, we're usually TikToks generated by usually liberal-leaning ideologies or just, you know, just like showing basically TikToks that liberals made.
It was cherry-pick nonsense.
Well, it was TikToks posted by left-leaning people just sort of explaining whatever.
Because they're making fun of people.
Not making fun of anybody.
They were just posting content that liberals had posted on TikTok.
And no, that's not what they're doing.
They were plainly making fun of it.
They were posting content.
Most of it out of context in an in, in, in, in an attempt to try to make left-leaning people look insane.
I'm, I'm just going to say, say, a TikTok is not, it's not, it's not a short, a short five-second video.
Because they come by curating.
Because it comes with, it comes with her little description about what they were doing.
And then she doesn't understand the context of the nuance involved in the shit.
I think I'm going to have to push back on you on that because a TikTok, you can't take a TikTok out of context.
It's supposed to be a short video to provide all the context.
That no, but like saying taking a TikTok out of context is being like, oh, you took a haiku out of context.
Big T, big T, big T, the whole point is the whole, you can't say you take a, I promise I'll let you talk.
Big T saying
things are getting regulated by people
are saying that men can get pregnant
that is out of context
that is a nuanced conversation
that is so deep that in order for us to go into
it it'll be a two hour conversation
that's taking something out of context
so yes you can take a TikTok
which has a lot of depth behind it
and put it out of context
that's what she does
but none of the TikToks were
of conservatives making fun of liberals
it was all their liberal
liberal generated content
that was then just posted on Twitter
Right. People would make the TikToks themselves and then she would take them now, she would edit them sometimes. So you can, so that you could make that argument that it does remove some of the context. I don't, I think, I don't think she added. No, she would like take it like from a 15 second clip down to a five second, the most ridiculous five seconds. That's like she was ultimately in the, in the, do you know that for a fact? Yeah, she was trying to, yeah, she was trying to like generate content and discussion around the clip that she would post. So, but it was stuff that was created by the people.
themselves. But you do you actually
for a fact know that she was editing them?
That's a big ascitation. Unless some of these
TikToks that I've seen that she posted were
just like three or four second clips.
Yeah, that's the point of TikTok. I would be like rapid
rapid fire.
I post a point of second TikToks
all the time. Because
it gets you more views. That's something
what happens. I don't know. I don't know she did
that, but I do know she takes a lot of stuff
out of context and there's a lot of nuanced
conversations behind some of the stuff that
she's posting that she leaves out.
and creates an entirely different narrative around it.
I think the reason why people got very upset about what she was doing.
Fourth grade teacher with pink hair or some shit like that.
She was like the teachers that I grew up with.
Shut the fuck.
It has nothing to do with anything.
So I think a lot of the conversation about that account has become because she was taking
these clips and then people would go find out who the individuals were in that clip and
they would get them fired or they would like report them.
They're like home addresses and things like that.
But those people are posting it online.
They posted themselves.
They posted themselves.
But I'm saying that's the reason why people got upset with it was because people were getting reported and canceled because this account was amplifying it.
But that's the whole point.
Then they should have never posted the TikToks in the internet.
If I post a TikTok.
Why did she post them?
If she got so mad that someone did the same thing to her, why was she so mad?
Because basically with her.
No, the real hypocrisy of the whole thing, the real hypocrisy of the whole thing was that the reporter who did it was talking about how it's so terrible that people go after people online and how she's a victim of report like basically.
Right, which is exactly what the person you're defending did.
Well, the person that I'm not defending her, but I'm just saying, well, you are.
I'm saying what happened.
Then this person then went in tried to docks.
They did the same thing.
No, she reported.
She reported on who was behind the account.
Like, she didn't do some great crime.
She'd reported.
But no, but it was just totally hypocritical to her original statements.
Yeah, that's one way to deflect from the actual story, for sure.
But she really didn't do anything wrong.
If she had never said those things before, what would we talk about?
I don't know.
That was my, that was the point.
But to say it was taking out of context is kind of weird.
Like I'm saying, a high coup can't be taken out of context.
It's supposed to be a very short.
No, but you're thinking about this in a very binary way, dog.
Like, when you're talking about political issues, something like the trans issue,
you cannot have a 15-second video and have the full context behind that video.
Well, then I blame.
Behind what the person is saying.
This is the issue with social media.
To have any kind of civil, rational discourse with any kind of nuance is impossible
because they're going to take what you say out of context and just go and they run with it.
So you saying she didn't take it out of context.
She was just, no, she was, though.
Because it's not about journalistic integrity.
If that's what you're arguing,
are you arguing she has journalistic integrity?
No, no, I'm just saying that.
Okay, then.
If you're not arguing that,
then you have to agree that she's taking shit out of context.
Because if it's really about the safety of the children and yada,
all the shit,
then she would do it in a way that's much more diplomatic and much more nuanced and
much more in depth.
But she doesn't.
She posts it to get reactions,
click bait shit.
That's what she does.
It's what everybody does now there.
She was making,
this is the point that's her.
She was making fun of these people.
Like that was that's what it was and trying to highlight how crazy the left is like which I'm fine with like people deserve to be made fun of I do it all day long but to make it out to be something bigger than that it's insane and it's also gaslighting it's also it's also it's also gaslighting show to jump on like a hot topic like the whole CRT thing that entire bullshit is still going on and this is why I so this is why I get so hot about it and why I think it's so important is because that whole CRT shit is blatantly dumb it's the dumbest shit I've ever seen in my entire life dog none of these people know what CRT is none of them people have ever
linked it to any kind of textbook that has ever been in any fucking curriculum, right?
But now you have people that are writing real legislation to get real historical events blackballed from curriculum in schools that actually help kids.
And this is why, because of the online push for it.
You have people up in arms about CRT.
They don't know if they've read one fucking scholar from CRT.
It's nonsense.
And this is why I get so hot about.
because this is actually changing shit.
This is actually moving the needle on things.
There, Finn.
DeSantis just banned every type of map textbook that isn't his bone by his best friend.
That wasn't even CRT related.
He just snuck that one in there to make himself some coin.
Like this is what happens in broad daylight.
No one cares.
I think that that now like the hot button topics are being legislated because like our
legislatures are actually cloud chasing right now.
I feel like they just,
They want to be cool online.
They want to see their name on their favorite news show.
They want to get interviewed, whether it's by Tucker Carlson or it's Rachel Maddow.
They want to be on cable news that night so they can show their constituents, hey, look at me.
I'm a celebrity.
They want to be like in the content game.
And so they're using laws as like a way to do that.
It's where the fan base is, right?
It's where your base is.
So when you look at the Republican Party, the Republican Party is just the party of Trump right now.
And so that's what the majority of the fan base, I said, I say, it actually is.
I don't take that back, which is really weird.
It's like, it's fandom, right?
But the majority of the base of the conservative party is pro-Trump.
And it doesn't matter what he says or what he does, they're pro-Trump.
And if you're anti-Trump on anything, then you're less likely to win any kind of election.
Point in case, there was, I forget who it was, but they was debating the, I believe it was a Georgia, Georgia representative.
And dudes opening line was, first of all, the 2020 election was rigged and stolen.
That was his opening line to a debate against his political rival.
And it's like, what is wrong with you, though?
Like, what is what, like, but that's where it's at.
It's like, you have to placate to that audience right now.
And right now the audience is super pro-Trump, super pro.
All that right shit is like, that's what they do.
And granted, they do do that on the left too, which I despise.
But that's just where we're at in America.
So it's fucking gross.
Speaking of Trump, if Elon takes over Twitter, he's letting Trump back on, right?
Well, Putin's on Twitter.
Putin's still on Twitter.
The president.
I don't know.
No, no, the president.
I follow Putin to keep your enemies close.
Oh, interesting.
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
But, like, it's just a lot of hypocrisy.
Wait, is Putin on online right now?
But you don't get banned for necessarily.
You don't get banned for things that you do.
Oh, acts of war?
It's for violating TOS.
For having rhetoric that causes a whole army to invade another country.
So it's, is he tweeted this information and shit?
I don't know.
It's the Kremlin, so it's the office.
It's like, at POTUS is still like, it's like the office of the president.
It's technically, yeah, the office of the, wait, I've had the exact one.
It was the Kremlin.
Yes, I tagged it.
I tagged it when the, I don't know if it's been off since, but.
The night it all went down, I tweeted, oh, like, can we kick this guy off of Twitter at Jack Dorsey?
So, yeah, it has it has not tweeted.
Billy got it kicked offline.
Congratulations, Billy.
It has not tweeted since March 15th.
Boom.
Doing where I can.
So Billy is a strong, strongly in favor of content moderation.
Of foreign entities.
So, yeah, no, Vladimir Putin is not on Twitter right now.
But does Trump get back on?
I feel like he does.
Yeah.
I feel like probably.
Day one, Elon Musk hits that button.
And it's going to be a shit shit.
I hate to say it, but it's going to be like doing a drug like it's going to in the moment short term be so funny.
So great.
But like long term, who knows what's going to happen?
But it's going to be like, like how can you explain it?
You can't deny the first tweet back is going to rock.
It's going to be like fucking stone cold music, boom.
And it's going to be electric.
You should tweet the Undertaker Giff.
If, I mean, if Trump.
is who he says he is, he should decline.
I don't know that now that Elon, no, but now that Elon's in charge.
But still, like, no, I have something that I've moved on.
Is he going to drop Trump or true social?
That's what I mean.
He has his own social media.
He should absolutely decline, but he won't because he's addicted to Twitter like the rest of us.
I am addicted to Twitter.
I would love it actually if it came out that he's been tweeting from like a three follower
account this whole time.
I guarantee he has a burner, bro.
Dude, I hope he's just been dropping.
Let's be honest.
Have we all dabbled with the burners in the burner zone?
Yes, of course.
So here's my question.
I have had a burner.
Here's my question every time I encounter these burners.
So I have other accounts that like if someone blocks me so I can go look at their shit.
But I would never tweet off like an account that has no followers.
Like what are you gaining?
But then like you find like KD was just tweeting off these burners defending and
self like what are you yeah I don't understand that I'm not about hiding behind a
mask I hear you Billy yeah but Billy there's something so liberating about the
burner life yeah but I feel like but like me my morals like morally like I don't
know it's just probably some fucked up thank you for your service complex I have but
just being like that soft as far your morals won't allow you to say it with your chest
I don't know and you hide behind the surname Billy football because you didn't want
your college coaches to get inundated with tweets well it was still me saying it to my face like saying
it like it was still my face on the radio your face was there i just my face on the radio like people
had a place to come and address me i just didn't i literally thought i'd be violating some ncaa this was
before nil this was like before it was before anyone had a tic talk any like i mean it was it was a
weird that's not true i thought also not true right yeah yeah i was on there vine was
popping back to know.
Who's Brennan Clancy?
I mean, he had a TikTok back in 2017.
Yeah, it was called Musically.
He told the whole company to get on it.
He's the smartest person of the company by Falk.
Ken Jack used to be, he used to do his, uh, TikTok review threads where it was just the,
the fattest chaos dancing to like country track music.
But that was when it was all dancing.
Ken Jack's the original lips of TikTok.
Yeah, he was.
Yeah.
For example, I literally thought that the coaches who recruited me might like drop my scholarship
Like I mean my place placement or drop me from the team or even like I didn't know like it was a weird time
You're a human burner account I was a burner account my face was out there like it wasn't like if you really wanted to you could find my name it was just a username for sure and I just didn't want shit yeah it wasn't like I was hiding behind glasses or oh
Get your bench up billy it's up bro get your bench up but dude I literally have Aaron guess how much more guess how much more
I benched than Billy last week.
You didn't.
You didn't.
I bench 225 pounds more than I'm on Tuesday.
No, you didn't.
The end of the day, I bench 275 easy and I'm probably going to hit 2.95 tomorrow.
Do it right now.
Shut up.
I just benched yesterday and I didn't bring the extra weights because we only have 275.
We do maxes on 2.
Wait, did you ride the train with 2.45s?
I'm going to put some weights in a backpack in coming.
here with them. We don't need 2.45s. But my backpack's going to shred. It's going to be 20 pounds in my
back. Billy was roasting me yesterday or trying to roast me, I should say, because he, he asked me how
much I was going to go for tomorrow. I said, I'm going to go for 245 tomorrow. And he's like,
that's bullshit. That's bullshit. You could do so much more than that. It was like, you reped out
225 like five times. It's not crazy. I did three times. But it's not crazy to like do an actual weight.
He was also calling my 225 a Mickey Mouse rep.
because he's like, your arms are so short.
I did not.
I'm 37 years old.
I feel like that's a good amount of weight to be putting up.
That's not.
I'm a blogger.
I'm a 37 year old blogger.
I feel like that puts me in the top 0.5% of people in my demographic.
Dude, age does not matter for strength.
Like if you want to say speed or something.
Not true.
See, big T.
That would be strike one.
Like now he's got two more.
No, but you could get strong at any age.
Fucking the head of West Side Barbell did 500 pounds squat.
it like like 65 what a guy that was that was we the claim wasn't can you get stronger at any age
the claim was age doesn't matter for strength that's not sure and also you're talking about a guy
that sounds like owns a very successful gym i would assume that he's been one of the most
successful powerlifting gyms in world history yeah so he's probably pretty strong rivals
some of the gyms are they the guy 63 i dude west side barbell is one of the most fascinating no free ads
It's not a it's not an ad you can't join
I thought he was about to say it's not free
and just admit that they're paying them on the side to sneak this in
You can only join the gym if you're worthy
You can only join the gym if you're worthy
It's why like it's so fascinating but anyway
Alright so tune in for max out Tuesdays going up on Tuesday
I'll be doing 225
Dude I fucking I might even shoot up something before this
So now you're cheating now you're now you're diminishing the integrity of the of the bench press
that's fine that's fine let's get into Elon though let's talk about Elon and his entire his life
which brought him to the point that he's at right now where he's buying Twitter he's got 54 billion
dollars to do it or whatever the number is 45 yeah 45 46 billion six billy did you share the
sheet yes the story starts in so hold on for you that one of the funnier things going on
on Twitter is is and I hate to beat this horse because servers are doing a really funny thing
with him they're they're saying which is technically not incorrect but they know what they're doing
they're saying i can't believe oh it's like they said the first african-american to uh to to
buy a owner a large major corporation or something like that like so they can't like that that tweet
is going around everywhere dog and it's fucking hilarious oh go ahead go ahead go ahead it's a fact you're
taking out of context it is you're taking out of context no they're taking out of context
No, they're taking out of context
It's out of context
It's true
It's technically correct
But they know what they do it
No, yeah
The start of our story
Starts in Sotiprika
Landa the blacks and the whites
Is he allowed to do that?
No
What?
South Africa
I can't mimic a
South African accent
South African sir
Certifika
I'm mimicking white people
It's okay
Is it
What's the org
Is that
Did the Dutch take over?
South Africa.
This is the Boers, the Afrikaners.
Okay.
So Elon was born in South Africa.
He wasn't born in South Africa.
This is the prequel.
Dude, it's the prequel to Elon Mux.
To understand Elon, we have to understand Aero Musk.
All right.
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Who's a milf?
Okay.
May Musk, in 1969, May Musk was a,
finalist in Miss South Africa beauty competition. And one year after that, she married Elon Musk's father
Errol Musk. So this is where it gets tricky. So when I first went into researching Elon Musk,
I thought that he came from a long line of miners in Africa who like really exploited the whole
apartheid system and before that colonialism to make a huge vast wealth and, you know, riches from off the
of other people. Turns out, Errol Mustin actually technically own a diamond mine. He did not own
and run an emerald mine. That was a sort of a rumor made up to discredit Elon Musk. I looked
into it. He did own shares of an emerald mine. But like saying that is like saying you own shares
in Twitter or something and that means that you run them or in the everyday. Well, he did have
access to emeralds, right? Because I think at one point Elon stole a bunch of emeralds from his dad
and tried to pawn them.
There might have just been loose emeralds hanging out around the house.
I mean, I think that was probably like sent to shareholders.
Yeah, just like a tote bag.
Yeah, like, here's your emeralds.
I mean, I'm sure if you, but like owning a sector of a business, like, it's not, it's not like he's in the minds.
He wasn't the CEO of it.
He wasn't the CEO.
He was a shareholder, which many of us are shareholders of different companies of you own stocks.
It's not like he was actually really in the depth of it.
He made most of his money as an engineer.
and I want to say a consultant
on different things
so over the years
so he uh Elon Musk tweeted about this
about his father he didn't own an emerald mine
I worked my way through college ending up 100k in student debt
I couldn't even afford a second PC at Zip 2
so he programmed at night and the website only worked during the day
where is this BS coming from
so Elon Musk actually has two
his brother and sister are also very successful
one's a filmmaker and the other one I think is in the restaurant business they're both millionaires but
I mean that's just dispelling that Elon Musk didn't like he wasn't coming from super duper wealth
like it's not like he didn't create any of his own wealth but he did live as a white person in
South Africa which during that time pre-apartheid did mean you had a bit of means and it did mean
that you were part of a system whether you liked it or not that did oppress uh South
African, South Africans.
But May Musk was super hot.
I included a picture I sent to all you guys.
Absolutely milk.
She's still a model.
Just wanted to put that down.
It's a way to go, Errol.
Good job.
Yeah.
But Errol's actually a complete asshole and dick.
Elon Musk didn't have a good relationship with his father.
Errol, so, yeah.
Errol, like, he's the type of guy who killed three guys who tried
to break into his house.
He was charged with manslaughter, got off with self-defense.
Errol seems like one of these guys.
I'm not too sure how back, but like being from South Africa at that time, like, we're
thinking like Blood Diamond type characters a lot of the time.
So like if you know Jack from Blood Diamond, right?
Was it Jack?
Is that Leo's character?
Yeah.
Or is Jack from the Titanic?
Jack's on the Titanic.
He died.
He was trying to hang off the door.
Oh, yeah.
There's a lot of people like Jack.
Rose went on the door.
calling Leonardo DiCaprio Jack but like think about those guys a lot of these guys served in
different bush wars i'm not sure if errol did but he definitely had his you know way around the
gun and you know erils was uh divorced his mother in uh may who was a milf and i never mind in
1989 and remarried several different times and consequently since then he hit
Errol had a child fathered a child with his stepdaughter of a wife he remarried so that was one
of the scandals that you know he was 72 Jane was 30 so we could probably say that
Elon Musk doesn't have the best relationship with his father like hates his dad right yeah totally
hates him. He described him his financially, physically, emotionally abusive. So not the best
home. But like the reason I'm explaining this is because I think a lot of people think that
Elon Musk came from this sort of South African royalty, something out of like Rhodes, Cecil Rhodes,
who, you know, founded the Rhodes Scholarship, who also did a lot of colonial things to put it
lately but it really wasn't that uh really wasn't like that so from there um he was only
sort of rich he was only like i'd say like upper middle class in south africa which is actually
but by like you know the uh comparative price principle because of how you can live in south
africa it's probably like pretty nice and cushy right but um he briefly attended the
University of Pretoria, which is in South Africa, before moving to Canada at age 17 to
avoid conscription because he didn't want to serve in the army and have to basically
fight against the ANC, which was the party that was sort of fueling apartheid, not
apart of anti-apartheid forces. Who's playing music right now? That's me.
Is that Rick Ross? Yes, I have to declare bankruptcy on Twitter.
Okay, breaking news.
I declare bankruptcy.
Billy's bankrupt.
I like how he was about to bang on somebody.
He realized it was himself, though.
Fuck, what fuck?
It's interrupting my shit right now.
I also love that his alarm is I'm a boss.
Yeah, it's a 3 p.m. I'm a boss.
Because I saw Billy tweet that he had an announcement at 3 o'clock.
Yep.
And I was like, that's going to be during the show.
But of course he would have an alarm.
Bankruptcy.
All right.
Give it up for Billy.
Broke boy, Billy.
Yep.
cool and what is this what is this accomplishing uh i'm just wanted to do the michael scott joke
um why did it have to be a three o'clock because i said i want to make an announcement you know
turn problems into content making your problems assets that's the content dame baby got it
okay so uh he went um so basically during this time in south africa uh nelson mandela uh desmond
uh tut's uh two two two two that whole movement
you had guys like Eugene Ter Blanche making January 6th look like a fucking walk in the park
he fucking there was all sorts of stuff happening in South Africa so he left South Africa
because he didn't want to serve in that army yeah he didn't want to take part in the oppression
of uh and basically be have his hand in an extremely oppressive regime and system
shout out Elon so if you're going to you know give him credit where credits do like he did not
participate in a system that vastly advantaged him for moral reasons.
He then enrolled in Queens University and transferred to the University of Pennsylvania.
And two years later, he came to America.
He came to America.
Badger.
Yeah.
So he's an immigrant.
We received a bachelor's degree in economics and physics.
He then moved to California to attend Stanford University, but then decided to pursue a business career.
And this is how he made his money.
He created a software company called Zip.
two with his brother. The startup was acquired by Compacts for 307 million 1999. Then this is where
Musk really cashed out. He co-founded the online bank, X.com, which merged with another company
called Confinity to form PayPal. And I think we all know PayPal. PayPal was then a huge asset to
eBay's rise to fame and internet commerce as we know it now. And he made $1.5 billion 2002 from this.
So that is how Elon made his money.
You know, definitely a nerdy guy.
He has self-processed profess that he has Asperger's and is extremely socially awkward.
And, you know.
Well, the PayPal thing was an interesting story because what happened was he, like he was working with Peter Thiel and some of those other guys out there.
And he wanted his name for the company, which was what, X.com.
he was like x.com is the better name and everybody else was like no paypal is
PayPal is a great name for a company he was like no it should be x.com he got into a big fight
he actually I think he made peter teal quit the company uh for a brief period of time just because
he was so infuriating to work with and then um I believe Elon was on his honeymoon
went to Australia and he got voted out by the board of directors because they didn't want to do
well, he was around. So they waited until he took his first vacation. He was on a flight going.
It's like has Justine landed yet. He was on a flight across the Pacific, found out that he lost
his company. And then he landed on Australia. And he was like, sorry, babe, got to head back.
Got to try to win my company back. And then came right back to the U.S. That's fucked up for them to
do to a guy on his honeymoon. He was just trying to get laid. And that flight, like, it's too far.
You can't do the Hawaii.
Sure.
That's only six hours.
Yeah, 18 hours.
18 hours.
Where does she think about censorship?
Where does she think about lives of TikTok?
She's being censored right now.
She's being censored right now.
She's learning a young age.
Hello.
Are you ruined for the Celtics tonight?
She wants to keep enjoying indoor plumbing.
Yeah, she sure will.
You like the Boston Celtics?
What do you think about Kyrie?
Yeah, that's right, Kemba.
You named your dog Kimba?
So I got it from our co-worker
whose last name is Walker.
And Antoine's just not a good name for a dog.
Yeah.
You got Pranan Walker's dog?
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
One of his like nine puppies
that he didn't know he was having.
Oh, what type of dog is it?
they didn't know their dog was pregnant so i only know it's half lap
so um we we do have some breaking news following billy's announcement
the board eight the board ape yacht clubs instagram and discord were hacked
and a malicious mint link was promoted and millions of dollars worth of nfts were stolen today
totally unrelated to my business completely unrelated to billy's line a bit what is your business
i i don't even know but it's not
this yeah so a lot of a lot of apes just floating around the internet right now a lot of apes
gone west virginia i got to be honest anytime people lose money on on nfts that makes me happy
really yeah i'm anti you're heartless i think nfts definitely has ways that it could
definitely be utilized better than just peddling artwork all i know is that this better not
affect my price of my alex crusoe nft i need to check the stats on that but so yeah so
Elon. How much is your Alex
Cruz little NFT work? I bought it for
500 bucks. Like the week
that NFTs became a thing. You remember
it kind of all happened at once last year
when the NBA Top Shot was getting into it.
And so I was like, this is stupid as
fuck. I'm going to buy one. And so
I bought an Alex Caruso chased down
block on James Harden expecting
that to be my meal ticket for the rest of my life.
And last I checked, it was down to
like 150 bucks. So
I don't know. I don't know. I'm
at the whim of the market. When the NBA
top shot thing was happening was a wild place every day because they did drops or
whatever i never was on it but like and people would crowd around like one desk and all tried to
it was crazy yeah i'm gonna look it up right now and see what my see what my price is i'm with big t
actually when nft t dudes take a l i smile like the grinch their their whole argument was like they could
never be hacked you'll never get their money and they constantly get it stolen from them
Yeah, but you don't have, you don't have the original man.
That what really bothers me is they like, again, disingenuous fucks.
They were like, oh, no, we're supporting the arts as if you could not do that prior to
NFTs and I've yet to see one NFT.
That was good art.
No offense to these people scamming millions of people, but also go fuck yourself.
Like, I did, they did start to recruit a lot of artists because there was like, here's a,
here's a venue that you can.
And so I know, I know a few artists that I follow that I'm a fan of.
Like, I've been collecting the art.
You probably heard of him, um, blue, blue to great.
Yeah, he did the Nike collab.
Yeah, so I bought like his first big piece.
I've been a fan of him since like 13, like 2013, like before he was like,
isn't he Houston guy?
No, he's in Dallas, I believe.
But like, I just, I randomly found him on Instagram.
But anyway, so he's like doing shit with Jordan, brand Jordan.
Like, he did shit with Kendrick, all kind of shit, right?
But, um, so, so he, he put a couple of the NFT things for.
And I was like, that's dope for them, right?
But like, just like you said, I just hate it because it's like they co-opped in the art space.
Like, right.
Just go support them.
Go buy a fucking, it'll be much more meaningful to them, though.
Now, what I have seen that's similar to this in the metaverse, have you seen any of these
graffiti artists in the metaverse?
They, like, since they already have like the, uh, Billy, what's the thing?
The Oculus.
Yeah.
Oculus controls, I guess, are similar enough to spray cans, like hand feel-wise.
So now they can actually go do it and you simply cannot get arrested because it's online.
So they can actually tag these really dope pieces as whatever scale they want.
And since it's online, they have no fear of repercussion yet.
I'm sure they'll figure out a way.
Billy gone.
I got strong meta property.
No, no. Actually, speaking of meta-prol. No, this actually, one way I think NFTs will actually be really good. I think this is where it's going is that there's certain assets that you can't buy unless you're an accredited investor. So there's a couple of companies that have been looking at this who've been taking, like, for example, real estate. It's very hard to own commercial or like this share of a real estate firm or to be a joint investor in real estate project unless you're an accredited investor or you're a big entity. So basically what there's this one,
company I was looking at called Hedgehog, which has been taking properties and breaking shares
and making them into NFTs that have returns and interest. So, for example, a regular guy
can put down $200, $300 and invest in asset like real estate, which is one of the most, like,
conservative assets with some of the best returns and be able to buy an NFT and get those
returns, which gives a huge amount of the population access to an asset that they wouldn't
be able to under SEC laws or typical investing laws, which I think is going to be huge going
forward. I have seen practical usages of NFTs, but I do think they're going to have to
completely rebrands because of how people associate NFTs now. Right. It's like it is a great
mode so like for example let's say there's a housing development and you know i can't accredited investors
usually to go through the proper ways i have to put up like like a million hundred thousand dollars
to invest in the actual building but i could buy several nfts that represent a hundred
dollars shares at certain points to just buy a bunch of them and then get the same returns that
real estate has and be basically a landowner uh and attain rent just through an nfts
even though I'm not, you know, don't have the capital or credit to, like, take on as much risk as other, like, the typical way to invest in real estate.
Guys, I have an update on my Alex Caruso at FTA.
I just checked the most current price that it sold for yesterday.
Any guesses?
$36.25.
$2.
How much did you buy it?
$500.
Dude, that's like.
I think that's a net loss.
That's like the Twitter.
that's like the jack's first tweet sold for 125 million and it went for 250 a week ago
serious question i don't i don't know how tax write off's word can you write that off yeah yeah i'll
just write it off the loss you can't write off losses it's just a loss i'm just going to write that off
it's actually it's crazy this this is an argument that i heard the other day if the government can tax
your gains why can't they reimburse you for losses they do if you're rich enough
I mean there are lots of what is the question real answers to that question I don't know if you want me to answer it for real I don't know but that's like I heard someone make that argument I was like hmm goes both ways I made negative money goes both ways shouldn't you be giving me money um have you heard of Elon Musk's musical career Billy yeah wasn't like a keyboard well he's he's produced a couple songs oh yeah yeah yeah I know that yeah the EDM song yeah you want to listen to it let's pop it okay here's Elon
Musk's song, Don't
Doubt Your Vibe by Elon Musk.
No, no, no, play the good one.
No, no.
I don't, is there a good one?
Yeah, stop, stop, stop, stop.
You want to play this one.
Okay.
Sorry, I was about to play B-side.
No, no.
Are you talking about the RIP Harambe?
Yes.
I don't think that's him performing at those.
That is.
Yo, yo, Aver here.
Quick update.
Yeah, we used a Elon Musk song.
We actually used two of them that our copyright
So I had to take him out.
So that's why there's this little pause here.
Enjoy the rest of the episode.
Thanks.
I have no idea what's going on here.
That's him saying, don't doubt your vibe because it's true over and over again.
So he does dabble in music.
Billy, let's pick off from where we left off, Elon Musk.
So, Elon Musk.
What the hell did Elon Musk do between PayPal and Tesla?
So, well, what's interesting about Tesla is we did our entire.
episode on Tesla, the guy, right?
And how he was a guy that
a lot of people think got unfairly
maligned or didn't get credit for the stuff
that he actually produced.
You know, Elon Musk did not found Tesla.
Oh.
He found the guys that made it, and then he invested
in it became like an early investor and then took
the company over himself.
He kind of Teslaid Tesla.
Oh, yeah, that's when he got in trouble
for this one, he got in trouble with the SEC
because he said he secured funding to take it private
and basically the SEC didn't have any register of that happening
so basically got him in trouble early and pissed him off.
So he got, how much money did he make when he sold his first company?
I think it was like a one point, when he sold PayPal to eBay?
No, this was a different time.
Oh, the first company that he sold, I think he made like $22 million off that.
$307 million.
But I think he personally netted $22 million as his share.
And then that's when he went to X.com and made the PayPal thing, the PayPal merger,
which by the way, PayPal as a company, like, who would have thought that PayPal would be such a force in the market?
Like, when it came out, it was just like an external site that you could use on eBay.
They kind of had like one customer, and that was eBay at the time.
And then it's just become like this massive thing that's everywhere.
Well, thank God they do Venmo.
Thank God they transitioned to Venmo.
Yeah.
Because now they got everybody.
Well, they just bought Venmo, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like PayPal, most companies have their own payment system.
Like, no one, does anyone use PayPal anymore?
I do.
Oh, PayPal has made a big comeback recently.
I've noticed PayPal on everything now.
Yeah.
I use it a lot.
Also, they own Venmo.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Right.
Like, more people use Venmo nowadays, I'd say, like casually, frequently than I,
You say PayPal.
But I see PayPal on a bunch of websites and stuff
that I didn't a couple years ago.
I used PayPal to buy certain exotic animals.
It was a very good mode.
That was a good mode?
Yeah.
The way that you say that makes it sound illegal as fuck.
What animals,
what's your biggest PayPal animal purchase?
I don't want to talk about it.
Hedgehog?
No, no.
You do want to talk about it.
You brought it up.
No, look, I mean,
you did.
Bloomberg passed oppressive,
animal acts on New York City
after they found the tiger and the alligator
in the apartment building
in Harlem. So... I'm okay with
not having tigers in New York City.
Yeah, but what about ferrets?
Well, snapping turtles.
You're changing the conversation here. I'm talking about
should you be allowed to have a tiger? I got to tell you,
Billy's making an argument that's... I'm kind of
pro New York City government on this one.
So like, stop stealing animals, though.
Like, what is wrong with you?
No, I'm not... Well, cinnamon snapping turtles.
Have you ever seen one of those
I gotta tell you anti-snapping turtle as well
Yeah dude they're sick
We've got enough things in this city
To deal with Billy without snapping turtles
What if one got out
An environment conducive to good animal
Hypothetically what if one got out
Fell down into the sewer
And then got giant as fuck
They already lived there bro
They're just not they're just not cinnamon
I'm getting a snapping turtle again
Fuck it
Wait but you're bankrupt
I know but I got to I might sell some crypto
for a snapping turtle.
That sounds like a good investment.
Stop kidnapping animals.
I was going to move some money around secure funding.
Let's talk about his latest snapping turtle.
But we had this debate,
Ari and I this morning.
So let's,
Aaron,
I'm going to read the text about,
so I sent a picture of my dog
and Aryan started going off.
It was just a random picture.
He did it in spite.
well you told me to shut what was it was the meme end with like shut up or no one cares
shut up bitch yeah oh that was a good meme he hit me with a shut up bitch me i i'm i made that
mean by the arian has good memes i so he has good means so then i just hit him with a picture of
my dog and i about to go for a wrong but see how you was about but see how you's about to about to you put
that out of context like it was just no that is the context no but until i mentioned it you was like
I just randomly posted a picture of my dear beloved dog in the chat.
That's not what happened.
That's not the context.
Well, yeah,
you was about to leave it out.
I don't know.
Okay,
so this is why I texted.
You in the group chat.
And then you fired back with the picture of your dog is a defense max.
Sorry,
I was a man show.
So this was the first text.
I said,
great feeling about today's show y'all,
good vibes.
And he hit me with,
uh,
shut up bitch.
Got up.
It was a kid like opening a book.
So,
uh,
and he opens the book and it's the rock.
So,
you know,
as a man trying to express emotion,
it's hard enough it is but it was once again shot down and now toxic masculinity has been
once again propagated um so i sent a picture of my dog uh looking cute about to go over run and
arian responded useless mutt and i said he's a pure bread actually um pure red good boy uh so then
we got into discussion about say good boy actually um and then he said you reading the thread or
you are you not no i'm skipping skipping stupid parts so then arian said
the dogs were evolved to be voluntarily kidnapped by narcissistic hoarders.
I responded,
exactly.
I feel so narcissistic when I pick up my dog's big poops on the sidewalk as he watches me do it.
And then Aaron responded,
you kidnapped a shitty wolf to make you feel better,
which I was like,
you could almost make anything sound bad.
So I said,
I would be my best friend.
That's funny.
That's when I said.
That's like saying you poison yourself with rotting.
fruit byproducts to make your central nervous
system dysfunction to feel better.
And then I said,
ingesting a substance and owning a sentient being are the same.
Sounds about Billy.
And I said,
correction poisoning a sentient
being.
Just a little discourse from the group chat.
Speaking of that group chat, were you drunk the other night?
Who me?
Probably.
When you texted at midnight in all caps,
what are we doing Monday?
That was a Saturday night at midnight.
Then you said the Kandahar giant
Also in all caps
Billy's been trying to force the Kandahar giant on us
And then you texted at the yesterday at 1030 a.m.
Elon Musk question mark.
So sorry I care about my work.
No, I was just asking.
Maybe I was, you know, maybe I heard something.
Maybe I was talking about the Kandahar Giant
and I was like, oh shit.
You just seemed really excited.
Because the Kandahar Giant is an amazing story
and we need to get some veterans on the podcast
to talk about the Kandahar Giant.
I didn't even see that.
I'm scrolling up.
I didn't even see it.
He definitely yelled at us in the middle of the night.
He yelled at us.
Well, because I realized that no one had texted the group chat about a topic.
Which we usually don't do until like Sunday.
Because guess who usually has to prep for it needs time.
Okay, guys.
Here he goes.
We do have breaking news, though.
Real breaking news this time.
Elon Musk has officially purchased Twitter for $44 billion.
That's less than $46.
The deal is done.
the deal is done i wonder what's gonna have i wonder what the first changed or can he i mean
he still has a board right what if he like can he go in there and just be like i want to see all the
dms just open up everything that's the thing is like everyone that's treated the dm feature like
it's a private and encrypted conversation there's lots of people that can just like two clicks
of a button read all your dms ever all right biggest change you've been hope you've been behaving
yourselves guys they need to add a search tab in dms though you need to be able to be able to
to search go back in your DMs and like search key ones. Your likes. Yeah. Searching your
likes. Mm-hmm. Because there's so many people who I said please DM me back so I can keep track
of this DM and then I've lost them and I haven't followed through. Not to brag, Billy. Billy gets
a lot of DMs. Just put it on mute, my G. So yeah, what's going to be different now? I don't think
anything is going to be different. I'll be honest with you. How quickly does this take effect? That's a good
question the first thing if they reported it is it probably means they signed so it should be the money's
going to be wired also what happens with like jack dorsey in this situation i think jack dorsey's
behind all of this i know but like is he still like does anything really change on his like title or
anything jack dorsey's out of he he flew the coop a long time ago or who's like who owns who owned it
right now it was public a bunch of people vanguard i think was the largest shareholder and vanguard buys
everything because there's such
So does Jeff
Sorry
I was just said
Does Jack Dorsey get anything of this?
No
I'm sure he has stock
Probably smaller holdings
Shut Twitter down on
on Tuesdays and Thursdays
Right?
Right Aaron?
No just on the weekend
You're an asshole
Shut
Twitter down
When there's no sports on TV
That's what I said
That's true
That's true
If Elon truly, because he bought this under the guise of like he's a free speech warrior and all this.
So if that's true, his first action should be not Trump.
That should probably be second.
First should be giving Alex QR buckle his blue check back.
And I think maybe PFT is the only person who knows what I'm talking about.
But Alex QR buckle was a blue check who got to take.
away because when was this two years ago oh no four years ago wow a little while ago so on june
16th 2018 i don't know what Elon was doing on that day but he he found himself in the news
and our pal Alex changed his profile picture and his his name to italian Elon Musk in which he
tweeted i senda the calzone into space i don't pay other taxes oh i just uh
invent a new fruit. I call it the tomato. I come up with it all by myself. Oh, Disruptiano.
And he just kept going in on Italian Elon Musk. Hey, I make it to Rockets. All of this. And he lost
his blue check because he was quote unquote in person. Obviously, he's not in person hitting a
real person. He called himself Italian Elon Musk. This is, Billy, you should be an outrageed about
this. I agree. It was a funny account. And here's what Elon has planned for it. He's going to add new
features using an open source algorithm. And he vows to defeat spam bots and authenticate all
humans. Let's commit hate crimes on spam bots. So even when he's like suggesting something that I think
most people are like, yeah, that's a good thing. Can you at least try to sound like a human when he does it
instead of being like, as new CEO of Twitter, I will authenticate all humans. Just sounds,
you don't have to sound evil when you're saying that. Just be like. Sounds like a bot already.
Just, yeah, just be like, okay, no fake people online.
No fake friends.
I'm down with that.
Yeah, authenticate all humans.
How do you, how do you authenticate all humans?
So in regards to the board, he can just dissolve that, right?
Because the board is for shareholders, which now no longer exists.
Private companies also have boards.
But he doesn't like have to have one.
I don't know how that works.
Bill, you might want to ask you this.
Is Twitter private?
I thought it was public.
It was, but he's going to take it.
He's going to take it.
Oh, yeah, he owns it.
We're on Elon's, what if he changes the name?
We know he's bad at naming things.
Yeah, it'll pretty cool.
It'll probably be like a mathematic equation.
He didn't name that, yeah.
Damn.
Dude, Elon Musk's probably running around like Ari in an entourage,
blasting everyone with paintball gun in Twitter space.
That would be kind of cool.
Yeah.
What a waste of my.
It's a, just, you just need an account.
It's a free account.
Imagine having $44 billion and not.
buying the Washington Commanders.
You could have bought
the whole NBA.
Disgusting.
Now, that'd be funny
if he'd just, Elon Musk,
new NBA commissioner.
That'd be very, very funny.
He would just take all the worst ideas
from NBA Reddit
and make it happen.
He has freedom starting for every team.
I wouldn't.
Putting a penalty box in the NBA.
That would be awesome.
Yeah.
That'd be funny.
Great idea, Bill.
I think we need to let them fight, man.
Yes, penalty box in the NBA.
I would watch the NBA every game.
And also fight the refs.
I don't know about that.
I don't know about that.
Would that really be a fight?
Fight the rest.
Listen, the refs would either get a lot stronger or make a lot better calls.
The rest have to be MMA fighters that are sneaky the type of guys who you don't think can fight.
But they can fight.
You don't want the refs putting anybody in a heel lock.
and give them out for eight weeks.
They all new judges.
They would call.
My genuine idea, like the coaches can challenge things.
They should get a second challenge.
It's a different color light.
Right now, it's a green light.
This would be like a black light or something.
And the ref either changes their call on the spot
or they accept the challenge.
And whoever wins the fight, that's what the call becomes.
If you could fight the refs,
there would be maybe two to three fouls called a game.
No, I think the refs would get so much better.
And hockey league, NBA ref.
No, I'm saying
I think they'll play better defense,
less fouling if there's fighting.
I agree.
And also the flopping shit will go away.
Matter of fact, you should get fine
and you should be suspended for flopper.
They do that.
Rulums.
Oh, they do?
Yeah.
It's not super enforced.
The fines are enforced.
The suspension's not as much,
but they do that.
Suspensions, suspensions.
all day because like I was watching a highlight this came across on to the feet
Kyle Lowry running he was like what the fuck is you doing bro
he's running behind a dude neither of them are involved in the play and he just hooks his
arm and he's pretending that he's being hooked it's like bro get the fuck out of
listen your your real world friend is the worst at this who that Christopher I don't know
Christopher Chris Paul you know who I'm talking about I know I know I know Chris Paul I don't
Christopher.
You just took a blot of money out of his pocket, some friend.
My God, he's made enough.
Hill of depth.
He's a competitor.
My favorite people, I'm checking Twitter right now to see what Twitter is saying about
Twitter.
That's my favorite is like when people get real heavily into the discourse.
I'm moving to Canada.
Yeah, people are getting very upset and using Twitter to get more likes and retweets on
Twitter by saying they're going to deactivate their Twitter.
it's very meta it's like six looking glasses we're in an infinity mirror right now
of people he speaks his back baby oh uh yeah there's there's more breaking news no get it off your
chest whatever you have to tweet right now you can tweet anything without repercussions
what should i tweet i feel like i feel like being edgy i feel like saying something that
that i shouldn't say right now knowing that i can operate with impunity okay i just tweeted
at Elon Musk.
More breaking news.
Former President Donald Trump told Fox News
he will not get back on Twitter.
Yeah.
And that he's only staying on truth.
Okay.
Man, that's,
damn.
You call it,
you call to call it,
but that's,
that's petty,
this sentence rocks.
I respect it.
Trump told Fox News,
he will begin,
quote,
truthing over the next week.
Oh boy.
Don't he only has like one tweet or truth.
I don't think he's on it yet.
This says he's going to get on it.
the next week.
Oh, shit.
Or he may have an account on there, I'm not sure, but.
I think he does.
I think he has a tweet or truth.
Arian, I wanted to ask you a question while we were talking about sports a second ago.
I saw a take this week from Mike Florio, who said that the NFL draft is un-American,
and that guys should be able to pick where they go.
And at first I thought it was kind of dumb, but the more I thought about it, like.
He also stole that take from your boy, big.
From who?
Real.
This is a Beaumani Jones original.
Oh, is it really?
I thought I got there from Tyler.
Yeah.
Yeah, Tyler and Beaumonti driving this.
Oh, well, then I'm going to pretend it was Tyler's and not Beaumonti Jones because that makes me not want to agree with it.
But, um...
Bumani would destroy you, by the way, if you've ever got into a debate.
I'm not even saying I agree with everything that Bumani says, but he is one of the smartest people I've ever met.
And he...
So sharp.
He can talk circles around.
anybody he's a very that might be true very gifted debater the worst ratings in the history of
television but oh god i the only one type of person focuses on ratings and it's only ever brought up
about the NBA and beaumani's show they don't even track streaming they don't like there's no
metric for streaming do you think the only person who reported that works for clay Travis like
that wasn't reported by anyone else uh conveniently we did it right and it wasn't that as a source it made
be sick. It wasn't me.
No, it wasn't you. But do you really think the show that was doing like 40,000 viewers was
streaming really well? I watched it streaming. Every person on my timeline that watched it
on streaming. Like, I don't have HBO the channel. It's possible. HBO Max is huge. Like,
it reaches more people. I would imagine in this day and age with all the cord cutters than people
who traditionally have cable. That reminded me. I was looking up Elon Musk's shit on YouTube.
and a video got recommended to me by Stephen Crowder
and it was talking about how Netflix just dove
like 37% or something they're stuck
and it's so funny reading those comments though
like it is the funny
just do it just do it
it is the funniest shit I've ever seen in my life though
they're like so close to wanting fascism
and it's the funniest shit in the world
they don't see it it's fucking hilarious like
One of them dudes is like, I hope Elon buys every big multimedia plow.
I hope he buys Google, but I'm like, do you know what you ask for it?
It's the funnish in the world.
But one of his arguments was like Netflix, no, go ahead.
One of the arguments was like Netflix was like tanking because of the wokeism and shit.
But I don't think that's what it is.
I think it's just like they open a subscriptions.
And I just totally deviated.
My bad.
Go ahead.
My phone.
I think with the Netflix thing, it's just they're not,
they let too many people share passwords.
They are now have,
they now have competitors.
And like other people are just getting people's Netflix accounts
when they want to watch a Netflix show.
They're not.
They jacked the price and they lost all their good show,
like the shows people watch to their competitors.
The people who watch the office went to the peacock.
Right.
But I guess I just don't understand.
I don't understand either side of the argument, honestly.
I just don't get it.
Like, for somebody who's like, they're going up to $22, that's fucking ridiculous.
Like, I'm taking my son and all my kids this weekend.
It's his birthday.
We're going to go see the Dr. Strange movie, right?
They love Marvel.
They all the lore behind it.
I got all the tickets.
It's like 50 bucks, right?
That's it?
Yeah.
He said, it's it.
But, like, I have a Netflix subscription for however it's it is now.
And I get unlimited movies all day, every day, and I'm complaining about the price hike.
I don't understand that shit from their side, right?
And then on Netflix side, I don't understand how you just think you can perpetually grow forever.
There's only so many people on the planet.
Like, how many subscribers are you really, how much of the market are you really trying to capture realistically, right?
And so I just don't understand either side of the argument.
Like, I don't get it.
If somebody can enlighten me on either side, I love it.
But that is around like $250 a year when you look at it, Netflix at the $22 price range.
And I agree.
And you get to watch hundreds of thousands of movies on their platform.
Like whenever you want, that's a good price.
I don't understand.
But then you're also paying for the other subscription services, which are a ton.
Can I expense ESPN Plus?
sure yeah go for it problem is they lost your accountant absolutely and like boston fights yeah yeah definitely fights
yeah they they they invented the lane you know what i mean and then everyone else has copied
their lane instead of building with them that i think they they couldn't have done anything to do
that but their big misstep was they put so much money and effort into creating original programming
which largely everyone hates like there's stranger things which people
love and that's the own like they had a company policy where they wouldn't make their own shows
go past two seasons because they they felt it was losing money on their side like they couldn't
keep people and it's like that's just not how people work i get it's hard to make like five
six seasons of good television but like if this was the publisher shit we were talking about earlier
they they went full publisher and they shouldn't have there was this one show
Paul Rudd called Living with Yourself
that was fucking fired
dog like that was the Brady shit right
he I don't know he cloned himself
and he had to like and he had to like live with his clothing
because he didn't die so he like ended up living with himself
and that shit was brilliant but they didn't re-up
the next season there's a lot of shows like that are dope
bro I just don't understand they just catch you with the concept
right they've they like and that pisses people off
when they know there's not going to be an actual payoff
off. Like, why would I stick with this? If I know you're going to pull the rip cord before it's the story's done being told. Why would I care about the next thing you bring to the table? I will be, I will be sticking with. But as someone who I myself think through a lot of concepts I think would be cool. Like, would you rather have the walking dead where just like or like lost where do you have a concept and it's all cool and you get the dopamine rush from all these new things. But then you just end up disappointed at the end. Or you just. You just.
get those rushes of new concepts
in the beginning
you know what I'm saying
I get what you're saying
what is the juxtaposition
like like the
the uh
the flip side of just starting shit
not finishing it is
starting shit
it's good but then you just end up mad
like lost Game of Thrones
I'll
okay I would say
so like
the Game of Thrones
I'm literally currently
rewatching it. I'm on season five or six. And it's way better on the second go round because you
already know everything, know the character. So a lot of the dialogue isn't missed on you.
But from day one when the last season dropped, like, everybody was disappointed with the last
season and says, Russ and we do it. I'm just like, listen, I wasn't going to write no better
script, right? Maybe I could have. I don't know. But like, I just enjoy it for what it was.
Like, it was one, minus the last season, which I still enjoy very much so.
It was probably the greatest series of all time.
You know what?
It's arguable.
It's arguable.
True.
You know why they fumbled the bag on the last season?
Right, because of money.
I don't know, but I'm guessing.
Right.
They started, Star Wars hired them to rewrite, rewrite that franchise and do the next chapter.
And they took their eye off the ball.
And then they got fired from that.
Yes.
And they got fired from Star Wars because,
of how badly they butchered Game of Thrones
because they were like, oh, all it takes is you guys
to get some money waved in your face
and you stop paying attention to the task at hand.
They didn't.
Wow.
I can't buy the I couldn't have written it better.
I could have written it.
I guarantee I could have written it better.
I'm working on a couple scripts right now, though.
Dude, I need some help.
Get my line.
I would love to.
Let's do it.
I'm down.
I would love to.
I genuinely would love it.
I would also like to.
I have a concept.
I'm just joking.
I'm just joking.
No, but I have a really good concept.
Don't put it out right now, bro.
It's going on to the...
I blogged about it once.
It's called Ticky Torches and Touchdowns.
It's about basically like a Friday night lights set in Hawaii.
I thought you didn't say Charlotte's, though.
Oh, God damn it.
That's exactly what I thought the joke was.
You walked him into that, Billy.
It was like, we can workshop the name.
Is that not the joke?
No, it's in Hawaii.
It's about...
It's like...
We can workshop the name.
But like we've done like every,
we've done different stories about football in Texas,
football in California.
We've never.
You might want to workshop the name.
Okay.
It's called blood and soil and it's about a farmer.
Stop, stop.
That.
Who was in halfbacks, Billy?
No,
but like the whole,
because something that really fascinating me was like,
pineapples and pig skin.
Yeah.
Okay, there we go.
There we go.
Oh, the logo, like the ball spins that it becomes a pineapple.
Oh, yeah.
There we go.
I don't know.
That's probably a little problem.
I don't know.
We'll find out something that's acceptable.
My guy saying.
Tiki torches.
But,
Aaron,
you got to be fast.
I'm fascinated with like.
When he said Hawaii,
I was like,
what a pivot.
No,
but like the whole idea of like Pacific football,
like that whole basically all the different like,
it's just so foreign to me is something that I wish I knew more about.
Like if you just like Hawaiian football is just.
What's the plot of the movie?
But it's a concept.
It's basically going to be two seasons.
We're going to pull out on the plot.
Billy's an idea guy.
Wait, so you get the whiteboard up, you just let Billy go, and then you parse from there.
I'm not saying it's invaluable.
There's value.
He's creed.
I just don't know what the, it's just about football in Hawaii.
It's basically just imagine Friday lights.
Then you had the drama of something like outer banks because it's in a beach type scenario.
Dogged a bounty hunter type stuff.
Like one of the players' fathers was a bounty hunter and the other, his teammate is.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you this because I love you.
You need to focus.
on the story.
No, no,
Aaron,
you can already tell you
that it's got two seasons.
Yeah, the teammates.
No, but like there's two
teammates.
One's father is like a dog
the bounty hunter of character
and the other's father
is like an outlaw who's like
running out of bail.
They're hunting each other.
One of the coaches.
No, no,
but like the whole dynamic
is two players united by football
but their dads hate each other
and then there's a scene
where they're both at the game
and like the one parent
could like arrest the other parent
but he doesn't because of
the love of family football
and everything. It's just like a real feel-good
story. Billy's made like Hawaiian
West Side story. No, it's Hawaiian
Friday Night Lights, but it would work.
It's really just Romeo and Julie.
Anyway, back to Elon Musk.
Two star cross lovers.
Yeah, it's like the quarterback,
maybe the quarterback's dad
is dog. And then
his favorite wide receiver's dad
is a guy that dog is hunting.
Yes, that's the whole point. They're not allowed to
hang out and they can't get a good
chemistry going. But then there's like scholarship like they start getting really good and like
they get lifetime vibes. I don't know if I'm getting Netson's vibes. It's straight to the DVD.
Okay, there's murder. There's murder. There's a murder involved. Someone's murder. Murder was no
that when they got murder involved in Friday Night Lights was the worst season by fall.
That was the writer strike season. People pretend it didn't happen because it was so horrible.
It was manslaughter. It wasn't murder. It was manslaughter.
It was yeah. Homicide. Now we're talking real homicide also homicide because of a rape.
correct it was justified possibly and then there also could be like a scene where they go hog hunting
like feral hogs in hawaii with dogs and like that could be a good team bonding activity
what's very funny is billy is literally describing hawaii five oh which i've been forced to watch
including the dog the bounty hunter part he's he's in that show i don't know if people realize
yeah hell yeah hawaii five o outer banks friday light's all combined football because then you
I was actually on Hawaii 5-0.
Oh, when?
I had a scene.
I was, it was, I think, 2010 or 11, we was out there for the Pro Bowl, and they, and they hit
me up, and it was like, do you want to be in the show?
And I was like, yeah.
And so, like, I had a scene with lines, and I got, I got questioned by the two dudes.
I forget their names.
They had, I think they ran that storyline back in the later season, because I think like
Callais Campbell was in an episode.
Okay, yeah.
It was fun, man.
It was dope.
I would have, actually, if it would have popped up on my,
TV. I watched draft day last night. I'm grinding. I'm grinding tape for the draft.
We need to watch that this week. All that you have for Thursday. He's running back. That's perfect. Yeah. Let's talk about it Wednesday. That'll be nanodosing. I'm going to go take a piss real quick. Okay. I'm going to talk about Elon Musk. Yeah. Keep the discourse going. So there's a very funny. So Elon Musk's been involved in a lot of controversy. You know, one of them is he wants to build this hyperloop from San Francisco to L.A. A very profitable tunnel system because he hates traffic. Real quick. Real quick.
I have people that can test, that can, uh, that can, uh, attest, uh, a test. There you go.
Appreciate you, Billy. I get it like that too. So in, in, in eighth grade, I came up with the
idea of travel tubes. And because we had a project of something that will, that will make the future
better. And I had what Elon Musk was trying to do, I had thought of in eighth grade. I'm just
saying, go ahead. Yeah. I was, I was happy when I read that story. I have a matter of fact,
one of my home girls that was in my class, I texted her to.
article i said travel tubes because she always remembered that shit it was a good moment for me and
my ingenuity no i feel that um so in 2013 he wanted to uh make a vacuum tube train
assigning a dozen engineers from tesla and space x to establish conceptual foundations and
create initial designs um this is where the whole hyperloop came up it's very easy to sort of
conceptualize he just wanted to build a tunnel where you could drive fast and just make it efficient
to move ship commerce whatnot transport um he's also worked on open ai which he wants to make a non for
non-for-profit artificial intelligence research company aiming to develop AI that would be intended
to be safe and beneficial to humanity not something that would try to sell you stuff he's done a lot
of projects he made that flame thrower for the boring company um the boring company i was when he was
cool yeah he was dropping he's still cool
he's not he why is he cool
I mean he's we already talked about him being a nerd
which should be make him your your enemy
as a jock but he also did just tweet
and also like the the wild racism
that he allows at Tesla is exactly
or SpaceX SpaceX is why no it was Tesla is why he's not
cool but like he well he just tweeted this is his first
the quotes as owner of Twitter
he tweeted a rocket emoji there's six
emojis here. So PFT already wants them out. No, no, no. That's in your in your name. I think you can
tweet emojis and tweets. Okay. That's fair. My apologies to PFT. Free speech is the bedrock of a
functioning democracy. And Twitter is the digital town square where matters vital to the future of
humanity are debated. Eject that from Big T. I've heard Big T say that. The town square case has been
made a lot recently, which is very interesting. Well, a lot of people say that. But we
talks about this before the show started.
The idea of a town square originally comes
from a concept that dates back to ancient
Babylon, which is the 4-0 in Latin,
which is the forum. And the forum was...
Hey, you really, uh, the well-actually
guy, aren't it? There's more quote.
No, that's good. I like that. No, but the thing is...
Can we just call it the foro? Because I'm
sick of the phrase, when I hear the phrase
town square. Because that's the anglicized version
of the concept. I want to just, I want to
destroy my eardrums by pouring
acid into them. I just hate the
phrase town square. I don't
like town square i also want to make twitter better than ever by enhancing the product with new features
making the algorithms open source to increase trust defeating the spam bots and authenticating all
humans which as pfds pointed out does not make him seem like one i was going to say i like the
idea of making it open source i don't really understand completely what that means oh we just
sounds better i'll talk about it in a second okay yeah yeah twitter has tremendous potential i look forward
to working with the company and the community of users to unlock it.
Sounds good.
Billy, you mentioned Hyperloop.
Did you see the tweet I sent in the chat yesterday?
He goes, underground tunnels are immune to surface weather conditions.
Subways are a good example.
So it wouldn't matter to Hyperloop if a hurricane was raging on the surface.
And all the quote tweets are New York City subways, just getting flooded.
So the Hyperloop, I've seen some issues with the Hyperloop.
Basically to travel to wouldn't think of that.
a travel tube and it does it does actually get traffic jams yeah Elon must took it off of
arian of his idea when he was younger oh yeah when i was in eighth grade uh who was asked to come up
with a uh an event that would enhance the future and i came up with travel tubes and it's it's it's a
it's a it's a it's a system designed to get an occupant from one place to another very efficiently
very fast in a tube i have some very sure
strong opinions on, I'm not going to call it the town square, but the idea of the
forum and like the importance of it. Yeah. I mean, if you look at human history, this idea
of the town square, like before it was anglicized in like European eyes, but like it was the
forum in Rome. And the forum in Rome is where everybody gathered to do like anything of
production was like any productive thing was done in the forum, be it selling goods, the exchange
of ideas, you know,
it's just so much awesome stuff
happened to form. Just basically the basis of civilization
is the forum. You can almost argue that.
Yeah. Okay.
They addressed, you know, the king came out
and addressed the people.
The here you hear he happened.
You know, that's your point though.
But the point is,
is like the importance of that space
is integral to the society.
And like that in the four,
before the forum, you know, before Babylon,
It was the fire.
It was the fire of the tribe.
And that's where everyone gathered.
They brought the meat.
You know,
the hunters brought the meat that they got and the gathers brought what they got.
And like it was just like they brought firewood, you know.
So a hunter in this case would be like somebody creating their own videos.
A gatherer would be somebody tweeting gifts that are already loaded.
It's just it's important to the fabric of what makes us humans.
So here's my honest take on the situation is I don't think it's going to affect us that much one way or the other that Elon.
now controls Twitter. I think it's good in theory that the company is going private, I think.
A company like this being publicly traded, I don't think was ever a good idea to begin with.
And it sounds like Elon, Elon loves Twitter. He's so addicted to Twitter that he just decided
that he would buy it to make it more like something that he would enjoy using. And you better
believe Elon's got burners out there. That's probably why he bought it because he didn't want his
burners to ever be exposed. But he's such a fan of the platform. And he's,
sort of business yeah yeah like i'm going to just delete uh all these pictures that i've sent but i think
that he's just such a fan of the platform and such a like power user of twitter that it might actually
be good because he he probably understands from the user's aspect like what twitter could be doing
better and what it could be doing worse i don't think it's going to become like a big radical
cesspool of shit any more than it is right now like we've already seen what people will do
when left to their own free devices on twitter i agree i i think it's
actually make him see how much of a headache it is trying to regulate speech.
Yeah.
Because you're going to, what do you, you invite all the Nazis back, right?
And then you're going to see how hard, like how much responsibility you have in, and,
in mitigating diplomacy on an app where not everybody wants to be diplomatic.
It's going to be hard.
So I think, I think it's not going to work the way he thinks it does.
But I mean, who knows?
Maybe he's just like, it's a free for all.
And it is what it is.
I'll still be on an app.
I just, the mute button is going to be.
popping.
Yep.
You can always be
away because it's
anti-free speech.
No, he can't take
that shit.
I'll protest.
You can't take the
What level of protest?
I ain't going to be on the
you know what I mean?
The Buddhist level,
but I might
reactivate my Facebook account
just in spite.
No, I don't think
I'm ever going to become like a user
Facebook ever again.
No, I can't.
We have a pen this last time I love.
We got to talk about.
Musk owning Bill Gates recently so Bill Gates and I have a theory on this but recently
Bill Gates tried to get in contact with Elon Musk about some philanthropy on climate change
opportunities and Elon Musk was considering it he was talking it through with him and then
Elon hit him with a juice so this is a text message from Elon to Bill Gates do you still have a
half a billion dollar short position against Tesla, which Bill Gates responded, sorry to say I
haven't closed it out. I would like to discuss philanthropy possibilities. And then Musk goes,
sorry, but I cannot take your philanthropy on climate change seriously when you have a massive
short position against Tesla, the company doing the most solved climate change. So in my opinion,
I think this was Bill Gates reaching out to Musk to try to initiate him into some sort of larger,
like his group at a full like you know his like bringing him to the rituals yeah he was bringing
that this is that's my opinion he was he was like it was like a tickler just being like hey
we're doing one of the sacrifices tonight if you want to come through yeah basically it was
initiation type thing in musk's like nah fam like he's a sigma male bro he's saying fuck you
because musk is a disruptor he's not allowing the general whatever is going on musk is a
disruptor to it and a threat and so bill gates was like okay we finally had to let him in or he's
to destroy everything that we've been trying to do can you give me three examples of him disrupting
anything uh the well because i hear that a lot smoked weed on on joe rogan he smoked weed on joe
he favors no one's ever done that on he did not inhale he did not in favor he favors non uh mainstream
media he has not disrupting anything he's just describing a thing he likes but it's just that's a very
like to have him give merit to
Here's what we're not going to do for Elon Musk
We're not going to make him cool
He's definitely not cool
I think he's pretty fucking
Really tried to do that when you were peeing
I don't think he's cool
I don't think he's like
A necessarily evil person
I'm not like screaming from the top of my lungs
In fact I just said that I think
It's probably going to be a good thing for Twitter overall
That it's going private
And that he's running it
But I also don't think that
I think he's a massive nerd
He made a flamethrower
That shot flames out
were like four inches long.
He's a candle.
He made a candle.
Okay, maybe one of those blowtor sliders.
He made a candle.
I don't think, I don't think Elon Musk is cool.
I think he's pretty cool.
He gets credit for things he says out loud that doesn't follow through one.
Like, I think he's, I think he's interesting.
He's an interesting person to study.
Dude, he challenged, he challenged Johnny Depp to a duel.
That's pretty fucking cool.
He said something that he didn't pull through on.
Because Johnny Depp isn't actually a pirate.
He cracked the code on that one
He had a three way
Watches every movie as if it's a documentary
He had a three way with Amber Heard and Kara Devine
Who's that model with the eyebrows?
Carred's the model that model that has eyebrows
Carlin
That's pretty freaking cool
Yeah
I asked for examples of disruption
And you're just listing things he likes
And he's done
He disrupted Johnny Depp's marriage
Good point
I'll boom
I'll make the case for Billy.
He did disrupt the space industry.
Yeah.
Did he?
Yeah, because he's doing it privately to the point where now, like, NASA is paying him to do shit for him.
He disrupted the Russian invasion by giving Ukraine access to the internet in a communication system so Russia couldn't shut down their whole country.
Billy, did you look up whatever happened to that thing where he called the guy that was rescuing the kids trapped?
I looked into it.
The petto guy.
Yeah, so, yeah, he didn't get the thing there in time to rescue the people, the submarine.
He called the British diver who had been going back and forth to Thailand for years, a pedo, which, I mean, have you seen the hangover?
All right.
So, wait, what was the guy a petto?
So they settled out of court and it wasn't officially determined if he was a petto.
So probably not, would be my guess.
So a disruptor would have went to court.
I mean, technically probably under Thai law, he is not a pedophile.
Well, I mean, is he a pedophile?
Did Elon Musk know he was a pedophile or was he just like this guy spends a lot of time in Thailand?
I mean, it's a common trope that...
Well, what happened?
Pedophiles flocked to Thailand because I remember what happened in this instance because the kids were trapped in the cave.
And they had a shitload of cave divers, which is maybe the most dangerous profession that you can have.
It's like...
It's shockingly scary if you watch cave diving videos or doing research into the cave diving community, just how likely you are to die.
Even like the best cave divers in the world frequently have these.
trips where they'd come back with like half the people that they left with. It's insane.
There is a specific cave. I saw that they had to close off because one guy got stuck.
Yeah. I saw it on TikTok. He got like stuck upside down. They finally freed him and then he slipped
back again and they just couldn't get him. There are a lot of caves like that where they put up
the signs and say, don't go any further. There's a picture of the Grim Reaper on it being like
everyone thinks they can dive in this cave. You probably can't. Don't go past the sign. You will die.
And that's like a fun trip that they make. It's like, okay, we're going to go dive in this off limits
cave. Anyways, it's a very, very, like, dangerous thing. So this guy was going cave diving to try to
rescue the kids. And Elon said that he could send his turbo submarine over there to rescue all
these kids. And the cave diver was like, you're full of shit. You don't know what the cave looks like,
which is probably a valid thing to say if you're doing this diving as your profession, that
somebody can like just come in with a submarine that's able to navigate through these waters that
the person has never been in in their life. I think it's fair to call that person full of shit.
He, no, what he said to Elon Musk is he should shove his submarine where it hurts.
Yeah.
He's to shove his submarine up his ass.
So I think if you're initiating that discourse, if you're going to get shot back.
I wasn't sure what he was talking about.
Yeah, but if you initiate that discourse, no, but Elon's not, I mean, Musk is not to shoot back
if someone disses him.
Yeah, but put yourself in the cave diver's shoes in that situation where you're like actually
doing this insanely dangerous adventure thing.
And then somebody that you've never heard of or spoken to is like, oh, I can fix all this
with my submarine.
that's never been used in this environment before wouldn't I you would definitely fire back at
that guy and be like this guy's full of shit I'm out here doing the work like I understand why
the cave diver got got upset about that and then Elon called him a petto which yeah but remember
tell them the troops you can take care of it with like your your tank drones no but remember
this was a cave that they walked into yeah and then the water rose right so it was probably when
you think about it, it was a cave that was fine enough to walk into. It wasn't like they were crawling
through holes. It's probably a pretty routine cave. Billy's also telling the cave diver he sucks and
he could do it. You know what your problem is, Billy, you don't have any cave divers on your list.
I do. Because if you do, they're not cave divers. They're underwater welders. Okay. It's different
though. And not they work on, they work on super different. No disrespect to the underwater welding
they work way deeper than cave divers. I know they were. They do cave diving for fun.
weekends. I know they were underwater. I know they work in different places and it's also a very
dangerous job, but I'm saying if you had cave divers on your list, they would be like, Billy, you
need to shut the fuck up about this because there's no chance that somebody can just like send
the submarine on a routine expedition. And so he never said, he never sent the submarine, right?
No, he got, he built the submarine eight hours and then sent it over there. Look, I just think
Elon Musk's hearts in the right place. That's all I'm trying to prove. You love them. And anyone
who travels to Thailand
should be like investigated
dude like literally
every pedophile who's escaped
you just say you were getting big into boxing
like what
what like because Thai smoker fights
like Thai kickboxing
there's a lot of fighting over there is my point
I also think Thailand's one of the most beautiful
countries in the world right
they've got to be investigated
it's definitely on my list I'm going to Thailand
bro but right but like this this guy
basically I have a feeling that
the fun Donnie does is what Billy says
you know what I'm just saying that for must to say that isn't crazy
I think it's kind of crazy if it's a guy that's like it's more like
it's more like someone proof if you have proof then you're like yeah yeah absolutely
call the person out yes it's more like saying um if someone goes to Vegas like three
times here like you're degenerate gambler like oh like you degenerate gambler just
because you're saving kids in Vegas I also think that there's more stuff to do in
Thailand and just like have sex children yeah did one strip of Vegas you're painting
with a pretty broad brooks on that one.
Anyway,
never mind.
I don't even know I'm arguing.
I'm not even pro or anti-Elon.
He's just about very indifferent about it.
I don't even know why I took that died on the nail.
You know what Billy's doing the meme of valid criticism?
Have you guys seen that one?
I like that one.
It's the weird nerds.
Yeah, it's the meme from the Simpsons,
where Apu is getting shot by Snake,
and Elon Musk is Apu, and Snake is valid criticism.
And then...
No, Apu is weird nerds.
Elon Musk is behind him.
And the weird nerds are jumping in front.
Oh, Homer, because Homer's working at.
I really botched explaining that meme verbally.
But you know what I'm saying?
Like, I am not an anti-Elon Musk guy necessarily.
I just think that, like, we should also be able to talk about him.
You're taking away my free speech on Elon Musk right now.
The only point.
So this is a quote from Elon Musk on the incident, which was my point.
Now that I found that it makes more sense.
I assume so Elon Musk saying this.
I assume he did not mean to physically
sodomize me with a submarine
just as I didn't literally mean he was a pedophile.
But he called him a petto.
Well, he said he should shove his
metaphor.
He should send shove his submarine up as that.
Yeah, that's a very common phrase.
And it makes sense why Billy thinks
those are the same things.
If I'm like,
if I'm like, if I'm like you said,
you read it.
You read the transcript of our text, ma'am.
And you said
drinking wine is the same thing as owning a dog
you're you're makes no sense it makes you feel good
makes no sense makes no sense you could you could see though billy how it's a little bit
different whatever whatever i'm not trying to like that's past the point let's get to move
on to other stuff that elan mus did so actually i feel like you should hate musk for how he treats
apes what if you're such a big like you're such a big like you're such a big
animal guy and he's just out here killing monkeys routinely what do you what are you talking
yeah with the the brain chips i can't remember what they're called oh the neural link he's been
testing the neural link and just murdering monkeys left and right they don't die they just get
experimented on no they've they've died they've been killed okay let's talk about let's talk about
the bolivian conspiracy that tesla was part of the bolivian
to take out their current
What if he was
What if he was experimenting
The Neurlink on dogs
Would you be cool with it then?
Look, I actually think Neurlink is going to
It's, uh, it's
Answer the question.
McAvelian,
McAvelian,
I think it's going to be worth
The ends are worth the means.
Like,
and someday,
let's say we're all, you know,
it's a hot take.
The dementia starts catching up with all of us.
We get hooked up to one of those
and are able to live our life differently.
I think that would be definitely worth it.
How many people?
How many people could die for it to be worth it?
People or animal?
People.
So if we're going true McAvelli in here, it's justifying the means, what's the equation?
Well, it'll first only get tested experimentally on people who have, like, let's say we're saying that this could solve dementia or Alzheimer's.
It would then only be tested on people with dementia or Alzheimer's in the beginning.
Some would get placebo.
Some wouldn't.
And they're, I hate to say it, they're in a dire state.
They're going to die anyway.
So I think that's definitely worth it.
how many people well they're going to die anyway so it's not like
god damn no how many people
there it doesn't matter instead of you're making attempt
no i'm just i'm teasing out i'm teasing out your thought process here so they're making
if you get diagnosed with alzheimer's uh-huh then you have mandatory conscription in elon
musk's neuralink system and not mandatory you want to do anything you can to survive so
you definitely
voluntary voluntary voluntary so if you volunteer for it then it's yeah because you're going
to not know what anything is and die anyway yeah if it's voluntary why not yeah so so so
let's open pandora's box are you cool with any scientific experiment as long as it's voluntary
cloning oh hell anything well then you're you're talking but you're going to get to a point
we're experimenting with human basically human fetuses and stuff which does not is in
voluntary to the small gametes at that point.
No, involuntary like any disease.
Should I, any sort of experiment?
Oh, hell yeah.
If it's your choice, if you want to do like your body, your choice, like if I want to
hypothetically like like microdose psilocybin because I think it would, it's good for
my mental health and probably way better than, you know, prescription medication,
hell yeah, if I want to do testosterone replacement therapy when my natural hormones dip
way below regular level and impact
my way of life, hell yet.
All biohacking as long as...
Biohacking, if you do the research
and you're willing to deal with the consequences,
biohacking is fucking sick.
What about if you are diagnosed as Alzheimer's
and your family puts you into this
because you can't make the decision for yourself?
If they believe that it's either
they're going to lose me for the rest,
like, well, that's the same way
is should you let your family pull the plug?
Same exact concept.
Mm-hmm.
So, hell yeah.
Death panels.
But it's your brothers and sisters.
Probably my kids, hopefully.
Probably your kids, yeah.
I tend to agree with if you are consenting to it,
you should be able to experiment on yourself medically.
Like, that was one of our first guests, Dr. Josiah, join her.
Honestly, I wonder where he's up to.
All right, so let's get back to the Bolivian coup.
Yeah, so basically, in 2019,
Let me catch my notes real quick.
Yeah, basically around...
It has to do with the batteries, right?
Yeah, basically.
The stuff that he needs to make the batteries for Tesla cars.
There was a couple Twitter comments that Tesla was conducting a coup
to take out the current leader of Bolivia and institute a new leader.
And someone accused Elon Musk of this on Twitter.
And he responded, we can coup whoever we want, just trolling them.
and sort of really fed fire to the flames of this conspiracy.
But Bolivia doesn't have that much of any lithium as a lithium exporter in the world.
So it kind of makes no sense why they would go after Bolivia when like other countries that have way more
and are also sometimes more politically unstable would be much better targets.
So it's a funny little.
So Mexico just voted to make their storage of,
Are there, um, their reserves of what, what's the ingredient that goes into the batteries?
Lithium or cobalt?
I think it, I think it was lithium.
They voted to nationalize it.
So it's not controlled by private companies since it's found as a resource in Mexico.
It's now property of the Mexican people slash Mexican government, which was seen as them being like, we're not just going, we're going to charge a premium.
If Elon wants it, he's going to have to pay us money that will go back to our citizens instead of paying a private company for it.
Honestly, one of the, one of the money.
the kudos to Biden, and I don't give this kudos to Biden that much. Billy is, yeah, notoriously
tough to extract a kudos from. His stance of trying to make the military operate on electric
vehicles is going to be huge for the R&D research and development of battery powered vehicles
and battery technology as a whole. I mean, like, you don't have to worry about supply chains
and worrying about getting fuel to all your stuff when you're actually engaged on the battlefield.
Right, but think about this.
The military, military technology is 30, 40 years ahead of commercial technology.
And any funding they get, they like, you know, they have stuff that we probably can't even imagine.
Like, I think UFOs are probably 100% our military's technology for nuclear missile defense.
So, but if they start applying, allowing military contractors to start really investing in battery production, like we always talk about how, you know, our phone batteries have operated.
have operated like Nokia's used to last two weeks on one charge and these iPhones can't even go like
10 hours I mean that's because sick I used to just not charge it for like three days at a time yeah
that's because Nokia's and iPhones run on the same battery technology if we can get our battery
technology going and that's from a military level they're going to get us to a point where
you know we can go on a charge for our iPhone like a month without having to recharge it
or getting real car batteries that actually are efficient in like you can't just go 200 miles
on a charge you could probably go cross country on a charge so what about the knock on Tesla being
that the cars are not safe and that the autopilot program is it's putting people's lives in jeopardy
by trying to rush technology out there that's not ready yet because I think what Elon is going for
and Tesla is going for as their long-term play is just getting rid of drivers to eliminate you know
save lives in car accidents, things like that, while also making their company a lot of money
in vehicle sales. But the criticism has been that the cars aren't safe and they're getting pushed out
and pushed forward in the market without being adequately regulated. So you've got them turning
into traffic. You've got them swerving into bike lanes, things like that. What do you know about
the autopilot technology? So for some reason, Elon Musk's a big proponent of cameras as opposed to
using cameras and having the AI
discern from cameras what's going on
as opposed to L-I-R-A-D technology
which is sort of a light radar technology
that other people think is much more efficient
and so
Elon's kind of this is where I understand
where Elon's coming from but his execution
he thinks that since humans
and he thinks the human brain is like the greatest computer ever
since humans process information from a visual like a camera from our eyes and then processes that information our brains that that's how the car should operate as opposed to using a technology that many think is way more efficient because it's more effective in weather in tons of situations and it's not discerning images it discerns objects that it would be much more effective and he's so i have an article on this in my
notes. Elon Musk's crusade against LIDAR and radar is taking its toll on Israel's ARB and Inoviz,
which are two companies that have been using laser radar. So Tesla has stopped selling vehicles
with electronic radar in the U.S. and Musk has been refusing to use laser radar for years.
Musk Vision undermines the existence of two competing Israeli laser radar suppliers, which merged
last year with American S-PAC. So this is, quote, humans drive through the eyes that see and a brain
made of biological neural networks that analyze the information.
There's no reason an autonomous vehicle would not work the same way with silicon neural cameras
and networks and networks processing the information must row in October.
However, Tesla announced that until its artificial intelligence system gains experience
working only with the camera, the maximum speed at which the vehicle's safety system operates
will be limited to 80 miles per hour.
This is while the competitors, mainly the German luxury manufacturers who also use radars
and LIDARs, allow adaptive cruising at Audubon speed, which is close to
200 kilometers per hour so honestly that's one of those things where Elon's vision may be actually
holding back his product in that the AI isn't there to discern images into reaction so I mean
but yeah also I was talking to my guys on the guys list and they were going on about how
a lot of them are auto body guy uh auto body mechanics and whatnot and that they
think a lot of Tesla's interior
and exterior quality is pretty
trash
okay that's a fact
I got a test them it's the quality
isn't that good but
I love my testing that's
this is what it is I love it you think they cut
how to get the doors to work
the doors work then
but like one one thing
it's really
inconsistent like across like
like if there's like
a Ford or whatever a Chevy
like the problems that they have with
manufacturing is kind of like across the board right but with Tesla it's very inconsistent like on
mine like the rearview mirror paint like it's really you can just tell it it looks like it looks cheap
like so it's peeling off so a lot of people's like like the door handles will be different
linement the the shit that's lining the windows it'll be off like it it on mine that's the only
thing that I noticed and every now then I have to go get it corrected because there's like the sound
that it makes when I turn but over than that I had no problems but it's very inconsistent across the board
the autopilot feature is it's fucking fire but it's not like you can't just fall asleep at the wheel
like it's advertised or like people think it's it's just made for it's basically like enhanced
cruise control to where you can just really set it it can turn on like highways stuff like that
but it's not something that you can't take your eyes off the road like it's like not a self-driving
car now i really want to see what happens if we have a DUI case where
Tesla's involved.
I want to see that go to the Supreme Court, how it all works?
They couldn't be because there's a feature on it where if, if like, depending on how fast
you're going, let's let's say I'm going like 7580, like every 10 to 15 seconds, it'll,
it'll beep and say you have to press something on the steering wheel or tug the steering wheel
to let it know that you're still paying attention.
Like every 10 to 15 seconds, if you're going that fast.
If you're going like in traffic and it's like 20, 20 miles an hour,
like every, probably 30, 45 seconds,
you got to let it know you're still there.
But if you don't, it'll, it'll shut, it'll blink red and it'll shut down.
And I'll say the auto drive is no more, for this trip,
you can't use the auto drive anymore.
And it'll just slow down at a reasonable speed and it just,
it just come to a complete stop.
So you can't drive drunk on it.
Well, you can.
You could, but it wouldn't.
It's like, I mean, I've, I've, I've had a few drinks before where I,
I was in it and it was really convenient because like where I was like right off the freeway
I was making a trip like I wasn't drunk but I had a few drinks and you just hop on and you
just let it you just press the thing it's actually safer my opinion is the future like
self-driving cars of the future it can eliminate shit like that right and so it's like if if
I'm not encouraging I don't encourage it I don't think you should but in the future I think
it would be absolute asset to vehicular homicides if you had self-driving cars because then
you get loaded at the bar and then get in your car and a car can take you home, that would be
fire. But we're not, it's not near that right now. I have a feeling there's going to be a case
in the future when we have someone in a self-driving car who's involved in an accident.
Maybe it's not their fault, but as they do it, car accident scenes, they breathless both
drivers and let's say they're over the legal limit, but it was totally not their fault
than they were using.
Yeah, that could be.
That's going to be one of the problems
that we're going to see in the future.
What about the whole Mars exploration thing?
A lot of people think that Elon wants to colonize Mars.
Here's my thing about Elon.
He's got a lot of irons and a lot of different fires.
He's got his fingers in a lot of different pies.
It seems like wanting to colonize Mars would be your full-time gig.
But for him, it's like 25.
percent of his day it's a pretty lofty goal that's like collie coli's um a critique on him right
it's like i think and there's a lot of people it's not just coli i don't like i said i'm really
indifferent about because i don't really like he don't take up too much in my day but
i think he's like a lot of the dudes where he does a lot of shit i has a lot of people do shit
and then he ends up getting the credit for it and so like it builds up this law around him
whereas like he's just this big brain genius super,
we're never gonna encounter him.
When it's like he's probably a really smart guy,
really done a lot of cool shit,
but that's, I mean, that's where it ends for me.
Like, I don't like, I don't know, like,
but the lore behind Elon is what it fascinates me.
Like when you hear Billy defending this shit,
there's a lot of people like that
will just defend this man to the death.
Like, Elon's a big, he's genius.
And it's like, okay, cool, now what?
Yeah, I don't know, I don't get it.
I've read some stuff from people that have worked
for him and their concern a lot of like uh people that that do like uh consulting work and things
like that for tesla are concerned because he seems to take a lot of prescription drugs that's
what people are saying like he's he takes a lot of adderall takes a lot of zanx allegedly allegedly
a lot of zanax and he's always in he's like manic he gets in these moods where he's trying to
take over you know an entire industry because of an idea that he had one afternoon feels like he
He's got, like, a lot of stuff going on right now where he wants to change.
Yeah, at his Tesla plants, yeah.
Yeah.
He was saying that, like, the Tesla plant, the Tesla business model, since it's trying to disrupt, doesn't work well with unions.
I think there's a lot of speculative, there's a lot of speculation on the financial future of Tesla, too.
A lot of people are either super adamant for this is going to be a long-term smash.
And then there's a lot of people like Bill Gates that are very much like this business is not sustainable.
It's built on a house of cards.
It feels like there's no like, Aryan's probably the first person I've talked to that's been like, yeah, Tesla's okay.
I like my Tesla.
Yeah, I'm also, I don't know shit about cars.
So I self-proc-like, I admit that I don't know anything about cars.
Like if I call AAA, I got people who to handle all my cars, I don't know nothing about cars.
So I could be, I could have a blind spot, but I've just had no problems with it.
It's very convenient.
I plug it up at the house.
Ain't been to the gas station in three plus years.
I don't know.
I also think that Billy's falling down a very precarious path here where you, I would caution you to just be like, this dude's awesome.
He's a rock star because usually if you're the richest person in the world, you probably kind of a fucking weirdo.
Yeah, but at least he's doing shit with his money that's not self-centered.
I mean, like.
This bot Twitter, dog.
I know, but like he's like, for example.
You could also say that about Bill Gates.
Like he's, he's, he's spread, he's saved millions of lives.
There was a hot take about Bill Gates, though.
I mean, I don't like, I don't like Bill Gates.
Just like I'm not never going to be a fan of a billionaire.
That's, that strikes me as a weird thing to do to just be like a fan of the richest guy in the world.
But, like, he also has done a lot of stuff.
His foundation does a lot of good.
The Bill Melinda Gates Foundation has saved a shit.
of lives.
So that's my hot take, right?
Because we have, I have a group debate with a bunch of dudes that with the college with it.
And one of these dudes is a hell of conspiracy there.
It's like, I'm talking about when Corona first hit, he was like, it's 5G towers.
Like, he's that guy.
And he's dead serious about the shit.
And so he was like, yo, fuck Bill Gates.
And with the move.
I was like, he's evil.
Vaccines.
And I was like, okay, but like, what did he actually do?
Vaccines inside because you know what you're talking about there.
But like, what did he do aside from trying to microchip people?
with vaccines. And he couldn't really pinpoint it. And so I just started like just reading up,
like all the bad stuff about Bill Gates. And I couldn't really find a lot. And granted,
I didn't do a lot of research, but I just really couldn't find a lot about it. And everything
that was, he was accused of. Like, there was a really valid reason for him to do what he did.
Like everything that I looked up. And so like I haven't found like a real valid critique aside from
the, uh, what's the pedified? The Epstein stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I don't know enough about
that and I don't really go fuck about that.
Elon's tied up in two.
Elon is,
no,
Elon is not tired.
No,
because I looked into it.
This is part of my,
this is part of my research.
I knew this was going to come up.
There's one picture of him with Galane,
where she's in the background of a picture of him at a party,
which they was a vanjafair party.
They're holding hands.
They're not holding hands.
It's like a part of my whole thing.
But this is my whole thing about that, right?
It's like,
this is why like when I heard that about Bill Gates,
I was like,
There's no real way to verify either way.
Like, there isn't a way.
Like, there's a bunch of people behind his flight logs.
He did a lot of fundraising events for charities.
And so, like, there's no real way other than inference.
And the inference is like, it's just on if you really like the person that you're accusing or not.
So, like, so Trump had a lot of goings on with him.
I don't know it either way.
Chris Tucker did, too.
I don't know either way.
I have no idea.
So there's no really way to verify it.
Other than like eyewitnesses.
No, I think the one damning evidence is his wife left him because of it.
And if he was really up to if he really was just doing.
She said that?
Yeah, she said Epstein was the reason why I left him.
Can you say?
He just cleared him five seconds ago.
I'm talking about Bill Gates.
Oh, I got you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So his wife.
Yeah.
And I'm not questioning you like on some like, I really, I know.
I'll show you.
I'll show you because I may have also.
been like a quick way to get how much did she get she's like the second richest person in the world
now right but the other point i was going to make is if you remember when uh hit it first surfaced
that he might have been that the divorce happened all of these articles started coming out about
bill gates being a womanizer and like like he used to have parties with strippers and all this crazy
stuff started coming out painting this narrative that oh me what a nut yeah like maybe that's why
what a crazy guy dude bill gates is like
Bill Gates is like we've seen pictures of him
that's not a guy you could see like
he's not doing blow and like being a party animal
and like hey bro you don't know what
I don't know but if it's one thing I learned
about being any kind of famous and any kind of rich
is bro you have right but if that was but if she
put it up with it in the 80s
the dude dropped out of Harvard because he was gambling
too much right Bill? Bill Gates
about that Bill Gates?
I don't think he went
to the bill gate
wait one second
to Harvard
I went to Harvard and dropped out
because it was
his gambling addiction
no no but let me tell you
because of that
if that was the behavior
that caused a divorce
that would have happened
much earlier
when all this happened
if she said
but like what I'm saying
is I think there was a direct
media campaign
to make him look like
this womanizer
who likes strippers
as opposed to
someone being a creep
sneaking off to
St.
print st whatever the fuck it's called
to like get little st james
to get have a little fun with ebstein
meanwhile
um
it's possible i'm saying i would like let me finally find
just send it to me like i don't
i don't have a daughter if he's a piece of shit he's a piece of shit
i was just saying like when i was looking up there's nothing i can like really
verify like yeah it was all it's all speculative but my thing is let's say let's say
bill gates is this is my one thing is that i haven't
like let's say bill gates is
acting and one of his tenants of his philanthropy is depopulation because it will save the world
that's being affected by global warming do you think that's those ends are yeah that's another
quote that was taken out of context right um because i was like that's a damning quote right but then when
you look at what he was saying right it was at a conference in i believe it was talking about climate
change right and he was he was referencing that and saying um if you look at if you look at all
of the studies that correlate very good medicinal practices with populations, what they say is the
more healthier society is, the less people procreate.
So it was a direct correlation between the health and human services of a population
and poverty. And they were saying, if we, if we get vaccines, if we get, if we get,
good health if we get good medicine into these poor countries um the data shows us or the data show us
if you're a piece of shit the data shows us that um the more healthier society is the less that
they that they that they populate and right and he was talking about sustainability from that point so
people took that and somebody's like oh he wants to kill people right right no no but i'm not using
that quote but like for example and i think this is the reason why i prefer billionaire Elon Musk over
billionaire Bill Gates is that Bill Elon Musk is openly no not means Elon Musk is openly
talked about he actually thinks the world is going to become depopulated and we have a depopulation
problem and he believes in that the world can support more people in population growth meaning
that he actually you know like whether you like it or not these but again that's but these
charity groups talking about overpopulation and trying to as a problem
is something I think is...
No, that's not...
I think you're missing the point
of what he was saying,
which is why I got taken out of context.
No, no, but I'm not talking about that quote.
I'm not talking about that quote.
I know that...
What are you talking about?
That quote, but look at,
like, if you probably,
there's some literature where if you look at
fighting global warming,
you're going to see overpopulation
listed as a problem,
and you're going to see that bill...
Well, it's not...
Well, that's what I'm saying.
They're not talking about overpopulation.
They're talking about the resources
having to...
sustain that population, right?
Right.
So what they're saying is we have this mag agricultural problem, mass agricultural and mass factory
farming problem because we have the demands that need to be met from that population.
So they're not saying the people itself is the problem.
They're saying the shit around the people as to why it's unsustainable.
And all he was saying was if you get medicine, if you get vaccines, and if you have a healthy
society, the data shows that you will have less procreation.
That's all he was saying.
He wasn't saying we need to depopulate the earth.
It's just not true.
But what if hypothetically there's ideologies and methods taking place in order to help prevent overpopulation from happening?
Like what?
Do you think that's?
Because birth control is one of them.
Birth control, like spreading condoms and like the morning after pill as well as just like birth control pills to developing societies.
But hypothetically, let's say there's medical practice.
that are trying to ensure that the population does lower at the end.
Like, what do you mean?
What medical practices?
Hold on.
Are you arguing that people should have more kids?
Is that what you're arguing?
That's what Elon Musk talks about.
Well, that's not smart because the majority of America lives below the poverty line, right?
And if you're saying that we need to have more kids that will put them in more debt and they will have more expenses.
And what's your...
That's not exactly what I'm saying.
I just think the ideology that we have like thinking about...
humanity as a whole I think like culling the herd is not an ideology I want to
we're not talking about Elon Musk doesn't we're not talking about culling the herd
though we're just talking about developing giving people access to to healthier
lifestyles it's because it's shown across the board the more developed a country gets
the birth rate declines because people don't have kids uh when they're not planning on
having kids as much now not only that a lot of a lot of people's a lot of people's income
in those countries are come from their kids working right and so they have more children so
that they have more income right right this is why the data shows all that that's all you're saying
but for example there are there are basically policies that prevent people who are like who should
be in the economic situation to have kids and want to have kids but they can't because of the
system for example student loans in other like in other types of what even arguably
highly capitalist situations that don't allow
pay that if you're in debt you would not be in what you just described
are you saying student loans are preventing people to have from having kids
yeah 100 percent i don't know what you're talking about
and the bigger question is are you blaming bill gates for student loans
i think it's part of a like i you know what i've said i've said i've
I've saved my case.
No, no, no, no, you haven't.
Did you listen?
I've saved my case.
I like Elon Musk because he doesn't want to shrink the amount of people on the earth because I don't think that's technically.
Neither does Bill Gates.
That's what, bro.
Neither does Bill Gates.
This is what I'm saying.
I'm curious what Elon means when he's like.
There's a difference.
I think that we can have more people on there.
Is he saying because robot technology will improve so much?
Elon Musk says there aren't enough people.
Birth rate could threaten human civilization, business.
He needs more workers.
business mason musk is more concerned with underpopulation than overpopulation the thing is across the world
we're about to have once all like for example age like basically once all the boomers
die off there's going to be a huge drop off in population because of just the culture towards like
that's his whole argument we need more boomers no boom the boomers are to die like explain to me
explain to me the thought process it's just i think ideologically it's better to support a billionaire
who isn't actually exactly preaching you know certain neither neither you got to stop bill gase is not
saying we need to have less people he does not say like this is what this is literally a debunked
conspiracy talking for it but i literally but that's just that but that's just that specific but that's
just that specific like you're saying that specific point was taken out of context but if you read
the literature if you read what literature if you read if you read if you read if you
read the literature on all of his supported
foundations, all of his
supported, you know,
as he said, philanthropic
opportunities, all of their
dogma, well, because that's what he told Elon Musk
you want to loop him into. All the dogma
is about pushing
certain, like, this idea
of overpopulation
and basically humanity being a
bigger threat to the earth and
humanity than having more constructive
like it, look, I'm
just can i'm confused what he thinks that having like more kids is going to come that's let me
send you the billy billy if you are struggling to make ends meet you're saying that you need to have
more kids no no okay so explain to me because if if the majority of people are are are struggling in
america are living paycheck to paycheck explain to me how having more kids will help i'm just
confused yeah i i want to know like what he means by that because i'm not i'm not even banging on you
I'm just generally curious why you take this stance.
I don't understand.
I just don't.
I think that there's a situation where there's certain groups.
For example, Bill Gates and he will be fine no matter what happens because his family.
So if he has to take means to prevent global warming from happening, it's not going to be anything that happens to his family and people he cares about.
That's all I'm saying.
That makes zero sense.
And you didn't answer the question that is.
I'm just kidding.
I don't understand how, like, I've heard him, I've heard Elon make that argument that underpopulation is an issue, but I haven't seen the reason why he says that is an issue or what he suggests that we do about it.
I don't know, I don't know what he's based on.
I didn't know I was going to end up arguing this so I don't have all the information in front of me.
I'm not going to duck, duck go to find it.
What's interesting to me about you, Billy, is you do that a lot.
You'll say, I didn't know I was going to end up arguing this.
Well, because I've, why do you, why do you believe something?
that you have no foundation for it.
Because I have the foundation for it, but I can't articulate it because it's mostly.
The Billy Translator real quick.
I think the Billy Translator.
Well, I'm trying to actually, can I talk to myself about this?
Because no, like, seriously.
I've just, I just explained this is, I've only got to help you.
No, the whole thing about me, I can speak for myself.
The only thing about me saying that I can't argue it because I literally started that today
because I ended up in situations where I wasn't prepared and I went in like not prepared
and I wasn't able to argue it efficiently,
and then it came out that it wasn't effective.
So now I'm trying to evolve as a human
and then try to find the information
so I can argue it more efficiently
instead of just getting caught up
and being thought to be wrong
because I didn't bring the right tools
to the conversation.
But again, calm down.
Do you realize that is the very definition of confirmation bias?
You're saying you're going to research it
and tell me or figure out why you believe it
rather than saying, you know what, I don't know why I believe that, man.
Let me, let me, let me research it and not get back to you.
No, because there are, I believe it is evidence that convinced me the past of it,
but I now need to pull up that exact evidence because I cannot recall it at this point.
You didn't even say that.
You just, you didn't do a different point about Bill Gates being okay if Antarctica melted.
So I think what Billy's going for, can I just try to.
Yeah, let's hear it.
Real quick, I want to, real, real quick, I was just going to say this.
I can I let you let you.
I wasn't like coming out against you.
was like genuinely curious as to why you believed it though i wasn't like well tell me what i was
just like oh why do you believe i don't understand it is it just didn't make sense to me i was
actually you to articulate it and then you're saying you need some more time i feel you i'm just
i wasn't i'm not this was not a debate right i know i know but i was genuinely curious like
honestly and let's just take a step back here because um i drank a lot of green tea today guys
i'm very sorry i knew you was on something so i'm just i'm just saying what what i'm saying is
basically, I really honestly,
Coley and Arian, you're actually very masterful
in discussion and that when you get into something,
the places you pick to detest or to push back against
are the place, it's very, it's in the art of verbal discussion
and debate as a whole, you guys seem to press.
And I'm not saying it negatively.
It's very, it's something that I wish I could be.
better at, but you press places of weakness and arguments, which is what you're supposed
to do. And usually my weakness is a lack of preparation of evidence. So that is something I've
been working on. I would like to make it clear. You do not think PFT is good at arguing.
Yeah. PFT actually. I'm more of a meat. I'm more of a meathead. My strongest muscle
isn't my brain. I'm not saying it's a dig at PFT, but in the scheme of the show,
we see Coley and Aaron getting into argument with Big T, big, like, you know, there's like,
you know, baseball. And then the thing is with my baseball argument was I didn't have like actual
evidence to prove that baseball is not a sport that requires serious endurance. I would say Billy's,
the crux of Billy's argument here, which is a noble one, is that humans are good and human life
is good. And he would prefer humans to live and not die. Sure. I also think the other crux is
He just likes Elon.
Like he's just a fan.
He's a fan.
Oogabuga, human.
Human life called Uga.
He's a fugabuga.
Sabre, two, tiger, kill human.
No like.
There was a meme floating around and I'm sure it's old, but I saw it yesterday and it was like,
and it was like Bill Gates, I have this vaccine for you.
The other guy's like, no, you're trying to put a chip in my brain.
And then it was Elon Musk.
I'm trying to put a chip in your brain.
And the guy's like, that's fucking sick.
like with that what a great idea yeah and it's like i don't know if like and i think billy's kind of
talking about it like yeah Elon kind of just like this is my problem with him he just says
shit and people view that as honesty and it's it's it's kind of like the trump shit like trump just
says shit and people are like off this is so refreshing he's honest like he has sinister thoughts going on too
I understand why people think that way
about Gates. I just don't know why this guy
gets the past. You know what I mean?
Like I don't, because even just now, you just said
I prefer my billionaire
to be Musk over Gates. Like, where I'm
sitting, like fuck both of them.
I don't like either of them.
But if you're, they're going to exist no matter what you do.
Maybe.
I'm better than both of them.
Communist Revolution. Is that we're looking to you?
Oh, hell of year.
Would you take up arms there?
I would beat the shit out of it.
Like, he wouldn't say that.
chance i'm not gonna i'm not gonna fight the world for communism but uh you know pussy i'm
i'm all for if we're gonna do i'm just i'm just a realist like i'm just the realist there are
people that will die to defend billionaires bro and there will never make a million and they will never
make a million dollars they've just been convinced and it's like i'm not gonna wait i enjoy my family
my little daughters my little sons i love them and death i'm not gonna die for the motherfuckers to be
dude i i had a theory i had a theory about the police uh police system and no it's it's actually
it has nothing to do with um racism per se or police brutality but i think that there is a movement
that doesn't want the police system as it currently exists to ever exist because it is not
capital capitalistically effective uh because it is actually a very socialist construct hey
Let's, I'm on Navy team.
Yeah, it's a public service now.
Right, but it would be more, there would be a huge market for private contractors to take over policing duties in the U.S.
That's politically, that's politically super aligned with Big T's world view.
I know.
1000%.
Yeah.
And I'm thinking because like, like, like libertarians is basically like whoever has the biggest army rules.
And in, in, to my point, like, the.
idea of shot like basically target right you know they basically in all these cities you can take
two thousand two hundred dollars worth of stuff and just leave and targets had to start in the
police aren't going to do anything and targets had to start um employing people for uh merchandise
protection services and i'm like this is just going to keep like the police are going to keep
getting less and less jurisdiction and private which is actually good because i don't need target
You know, something from Target shouldn't take police service, take their resources.
And then you're going to have more and more spending on these merchandise protection.
And it's going to start getting bigger and bigger to, you know, like security service of the parking lot to make sure there's not a mugging.
I can't wait to get arrested by Walmart.
Yeah.
Like spend time in a Walmart prison.
They've got like a yellow smiley face mask.
But they might just, they might take this whole Second Amendment thing.
Super dystopian.
Yeah.
They're protecting merchandise, and they're going to start, you know, shooting people on site.
You're going to have jail.
It's going to be like the old veteran stadium in Philadelphia.
Walmart's going to have a prison inside each store.
Yeah, I was just getting wild.
You had to pick one company in America to take over all the prisons.
Who are you picking?
Honestly, Disney.
Ooh.
I feel like Disney would keep a very clean prison, very orderly.
Entertainment.
Yeah, we'd have characters.
More anal sex.
Yeah.
Yeah, be great.
We'd have a bubble tournament every day.
day at break when we go out in the yard be wonderful uh chick filet is the answer that i mean you know my
answer the prison's closed on sunday you get closed on sundays yeah yeah just everybody with a smile
on their face yeah i honestly happy to serve you i feel like disney prisons we're yeah we're we could do a
lot worse than have disney running the show yeah everyone get dressed up in like a character outfit
in your in your cell now i can't have goofy beating the shit out of me because i i got out of line
and a bunch.
The CEOs are all in costume.
The freak show Disney adults
will be breaking into prison.
Chippendale bust into your cell
and beat the shit out of you with batons
and drag you out.
Bars of soap and a pillowcase.
I can't have that.
Yeah, listen, go into a Disney prison.
You talk about immersion in the lifestyle.
Yeah.
You spend time in the hole.
You just have to grow your hair out
for a long time until you can repel down.
There's a lot of things
that could happen in a Disney.
Disney prison. I think that's the right answer. But yeah, Walmart would definitely be the first.
I feel like they're they're ready to go. I might pick the NFL. Goodell would just have us
in such great shape playing football for imagine if we were watching basically the longest yard,
but actually. Yeah, but actually everyone gets a two game suspension as their sentence.
Unless there's video evidence to the contrary. Even if there is. Yeah, even if there is.
Yeah, the NFL
Yeah, dudes would sign up
to go to an NFL brand in prison
Be like fantasy camp
I'm not joking
A prison
Like football league
Like each
You know, each prison
gets to put together a team
And they play
I would not only watch that
I would pay money to watch it
Like I would buy-
That's doing way bigger numbers
In the USFL
Oh my God
I would buy us
If they did their own subscription service
I would pay for it
how that's how netflix gets back that's their work release
dude guys get signed when they get out
and then at the end of the season there's like state all-star teams
can you imagine like basically like college recruitment day
like a player gets arrested all the prisons are like
come to this one we got we get a good set up here we'll get
San Quentin's paying out name image and likeness money
It could happen
In the same vein
How much you think it would cost to do a startup
Basketball league like we're talking about earlier
With fighting in a penalty box
Ask him how much it costs to start with the big three
Ice cubes in the office right now
I said I mean enough
I think I think I'm for fighting in the NBA
But I'm not I'm not for fighting in the prison
No no yeah not
I was no I didn't say that there's only fighting in the prison basketball if we're going to make a league what if we make it prison like not prison forgetting prison we make a league like we do a five on five team and with just a different foul system like get back to 90s basketball so what are the non calls it's it's always someone who never watched a second of 90s basketball I watched the clips I there's a TikTok going around of Larry Bird
Bill Lambier and Dennis Rodman swinging at each other.
I'm like, what?
This is awesome.
I mean, you could probably make a clip of like the last 10 years in the NBA and be like,
this is what when real basketball was real basketball.
And then, oh, that'll happen.
A decade from now is going to happen.
Yeah, people, that's what you learn, Billy, as you get older is you're going to
absolutely hate the next generation that comes up.
And you're going to turn into an old man and be like, these kids are soft.
In the, in 2022, that's when basketball was at its best.
I don't think we've even seen like, like the three point.
evolution, like in 10 more years, the kids that are playing right now,
it's going to be even crazier than it is right now.
Yeah, they're all checking up threes.
And they're all going to be Carl,
they're all going to be Carl Anthony Towns.
In what way?
610, 611 can handle the ball, really minimal back.
Why'd you go with him?
Why wouldn't you go with Joel N.B.
Right there.
Because he, Y'L.N.B. can't shoot.
Because he's an American exceptionalist.
This is going to be your John Morant thing all over again.
Look at his three point numbers.
Carl Anthony Town is a way better.
shooter than Joel Embed. Way better.
I don't even think Joel Lundee was league average this year.
I'm looking. Let me exit out this bounce house. I got it. I got it. Don't look it up.
What do you think? When you're taking four shots a game, it's probably easier to have a higher
percentage, right? That was one playoff game, yes. The rest of the year to get them into the
playoffs, what was he doing? I'm a prisoner of the moment. Ariet, don't look it up. Don't look it up.
By the way, I'm just going to say, I think St. Peter's, my way off. No, I want each of y'all to guess
career and this season three point percentage for joel and bide well and bie career
probably let's go 29 30 coley uh this see okay go ahead i was going to say i think his career is
higher than this year if i'm not mistaken oh see i was gonna go i was gonna i was gonna i was
gonna i was gonna go higher this year so i think his career was like 34 and this year was like
32 something like that his career is 33.8 so now i want you to guess this year
I was going to go 33
I was going to go 33
I was going to go 30
shooting 37% from
Oh my apologies
My dick
Holy suck my dick
But the number is actually back up
My larger point
That he's never been able to shoot
So thank you big T
Hold on are you saying
33 is not a good student percentage
Because let's talk about the great
The average is 35
He's below average
We're not talking about the average
We're not talking about the great
Players of our league
Pull up Carl Anthony Towns is
Yeah let's do that
real quick pull it
up Jamie
how many years in a row
Carl Anthony Towns is shooting 41%
from three this year
and he's 39.7 for his career
so a better shooter
nah I want to say that
what do you mean you wouldn't say
because volume matters
okay let's look up at Timbs
I guarantee you town shoots more too
shoots more three
come on he shoots 40 from the field
I was like
crazy from three
one of the greatest
he's like
he's one of the greatest big man shooters
of all time
No, he's one of the greatest three-point shooters of all time.
Like, I think Reggie Miller was like 40.
I think Steph is like 42 or something.
Yeah, for three.
Towns this season is shooting 4.93s a game, 4.1 for his career.
Embedd takes 1.2.
Oh, 3.5.
He makes 1.2.
My bad.
Three and a half.
So, Towns is taking a shot and a half more per game.
You're correct, Coley, I can see.
But it doesn't, it doesn't take away the fact that.
Joel and B. Cushute.
33% A is a good.
And he's 37 this year, this year.
So, I mean, it's higher this year than I thought because he likes to heave.
And, bro, 30s, but 37 is a great.
37 is great.
I'll take that from my guards any day.
Really, really quick.
One of the things I actually noticed and about, I'm talking about basketball is the world.
World.
Not all guards are shooting.
So the St. Peter's run.
Shut that mud up.
wait he is a mutt all right so i want i want to hear they're all mutts they're ex-wolves we've uh we've
had a lot of talk on this show about a lot of different topics i feel like there's been a lot of
yelling a lot of back and forth mad dog hasn't been able to get a word in edgewise i'm curious
to know where you're at with all this man be or cat uh uh i don't i'll get i'll go cat
that's right i feel like he's had a household point coley yeah um um about
Elon Musk or where you out with Elon I'm not a fan I think he's odd I think he's a
fucking oddball and I think that it's weird look at Billy look at Billy he's no 100% he's
got some low key in cell vibes yeah well let me ask you let me ask Mad Dog this is is a guy
who's super into Elon Musk is that an ick yes I mean that's that I mean it's fair I also
don't think I don't think I wouldn't categorize Billy as someone who's like weirdly into Elon
Musk but like
Billy do you have any pictures of him in your camera roll?
Probably the
meme of him smoking on Joe Rogan
No I actually don't
I'm not that much of a stand I just really think
I agree with what PFT said it's like I don't get the people who are fans of
billionaires like the whole people who are like Jeff Bezos stands like I don't get
I just feel like he's the best of the worst
He's the best but you don't have to be a fan of any of them
It's not like a sports league where it's like oh you pick your team like you don't have to pick a billionaire to be a fan
enough. Well, they kind of do control a lot of the world. We do kind of live. Yeah, but I still don't have to
pick a favorite. Like, I don't have to pick a favorite. Like, that's my thing with also, like,
people who are weirdly obsessed with politicians, like, with people who are really obsessed
with Trump or really obsessed with Biden. Like, it goes both ways where it's like, these people are
you don't know them. Yeah. Like, they're not celebrities. Like, they don't, they're not there to
entertain you. They're there to make a gain, like in a profit. And I don't get the whole like taking
on fandom of it.
The whole Elon buying Twitter thing, I think, like, I was just reading through the timeline.
And Hassan actually tweeted like, or he retweeted like, yeah, okay, whatever.
Elon Musk can buy Twitter, but isn't it insane that someone can just buy a $45 billion company, like, on a random Monday afternoon?
And that's just something he did today.
I mean, there's like three people who could do that.
It's not like.
I think I'm like investing in it because I use Twitter.
well so do I though
right but like
you could say that a lot of
my
a lot of self my livelihood is on Twitter
100% and but I don't think
like I think PFT's
is just as much if not more
way more and like I just don't get
the whole like Elon Musk
I also think his whole like
I think he has a jack of all tradesmaster
of none vibe where it's like he does all these
weird companies but like
it kind of makes me
trust him less that like he's buying twitter but like what do you know about like a fair free
technology space or whatever he's very um or space like what do you know about space Elon Musk
he uh he he changes his mind about stuff a lot yeah and he he gets these ideas that he wants
to enact um because sometimes that he just gets bored man that always had a top tier rant right
there yeah it made a lot of sense that's good stuff thank that's good stuff thank you i also think
it's, I also, this is, okay, this is anti-girl boss of me, but I also think someone who dates
Grimes, like, shouldn't be trusted. What's, what's Grimes' deal? I don't know that much about her.
You tell me, she's insane. I don't know. I think she's crazy. And she named her baby, like,
a math formula. Who is he dating? He dated or dated or was partners with Grimes, who is a singer,
and she scares me. What's wrong with Grimes? What's her name? She goes by Grimes. I don't know her,
I don't know her legal name.
I just remember when I...
That's anti-girlboss of me, though.
I did listen to Elon's interview with Joe Rogan like a while ago.
And he was talking about when he met his child for the first time.
And he was talking about, like, looking into his kids' eyes.
And there was no sense of, like, his first reaction was, it's amazing I can see in the eyes a supercomputer that's in taking all this data around it.
Yeah, like, that's so fucking weird.
Instead of being like, oh my God, I'm so in love with my child.
I'm so in love with my child.
This is life that came from myself and then from generate, like the intimate connection
that most people usually talk about with their children.
He was like, it's interesting how this new supercomputer is absorbing data around it.
I wonder what lessons I can learn from a newborn child's brain.
I think that's such a weird level of narcissism too.
It's like it's not like, oh my gosh, like this child is going to have such a crazy life
experience with football.
It's like, what can this thing do for me?
what can this teach me what can this teach me what can this it's not like what can i teach this child
like this literal baby who doesn't know how to eat but he wants to put information to the computer
but like that's not that's not like a human thought he has he said he has aspergers i think we're also
like he's he's someone who's very neurotypical who's made like it's actually been a very
huge that's very true it's been a benefit to him yeah no but uh what's the word he's been for other
neuroatypical people he stands as someone who's like like succeeded with being neuroatypical
especially people who are slightly on the spectrum who really suffer socially like he's done it like
he's almost like for example how Tyson Fury is uh you know is someone who struggled through a lot of
mental health issues and he's the heavyweight champion of the world like he's a champion for neuroatypical
but i'm not even really saying like like i don't really listen to Elon Musk talk ever like
I'm not even saying his social skills like I just think the things he does
does and the way people react to him are such an it's such an odd dichotomy of like breaking
down like why people are obsessed with him like there people aren't obsessed with him because he's
like um like neuroa typical or has asperors like that's not why people are like championing him
in my opinion like I I just I and maybe it's like kind of a guy like maybe it's a guy thing
and I just don't get it and it's like dudes like just guys being.
dudes loving dudes like doing things i don't know i think you should have stopped at like the tesla and
like the more company and like make flame i think you kind of nailed it there like if if he wasn't
pals with jo rogan i i wonder how big of star he'd be right now yeah like would people would people
think he's so smart if he also didn't like make memes on twitter i think so because the first time
we heard about him was when he got involved in tesla before social media
had such a grip.
Yeah, but he wasn't like he is now.
I think when he does go on the Joe Rogan show, you humanize himself a little bit.
Right.
And then people are like, okay, kind of like what Billy's saying, like if I have to pick
my billionaire guy, I'll pick it because he is an interesting person.
Well, we have to deal with them.
I'm not, yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I mean, some billionaires, you know, start wars to profit
off of him.
Elon Musk wants to send submarines and, like, do productive stuff that not,
won't necessarily make him money yeah i i i don't know he just he creeps me out like like
like all of this like him buying twitter like it's also in the back of my head it's like well does he
have some weird um uh like what's the word i'm trying to say you can also just log off twitter
if you want yeah i also no no one's for i know a lot of people like you're saying the whole town
square thing a lot of people depend on it you got to make a calculation do you want to say
stay on it or do you not want no one's forcing you you don't have to be on twitter i also just
you can make that argument way easier for facebook than twitter due to just the user base twitter is the
smallest by far yeah just people that are on twitter think that twitter is the most important thing
in the world right thanks that's actually going to ask you really i don't understand um like your
generation is more ticot and instagram yeah like my my generation is twitter like we love twitter
yeah like why is twitter your main social i would actually push back on that i wouldn't say
generation is ticked i see i was i would think our generation well i mean but the thing is we
didn't have ticot how old are you like 22 22 yeah but we didn't have ticot in high school we had high school is
high school is high school is not your prime no but like but like what coldly said earlier
musically musically did exist when we were in high school but like not that we're using it i would
say ticot's different because it's not a social it's hard to say but like i feel like ticot's more of like
YouTube whereas it's not a place
you can converse. You can't
converse on TikTok. You can't do that on YouTube.
And wait, what are you talking about with
TikTok? I don't know. I just think it's more of a
content platform than a social
platform. But that's it. When you say that with
Instagram them too? The only difference
between Instagram and TikTok is a video versus
a picture. Right, 100%. But like
I would say, I would actually
content versus discourse.
I don't understand. Twitter is way more
discord. I think that my generation is more Twitter
and Instagram. See, I'm going to push back.
Instagram. I agree with Billy that's more Instagram, but I think Billy is seeing it through his lens of Barstool as a company is such a Twitter heavy company. So Billy feels like it's. No, but even my friends, right? Like we have Twitter group chats. We like, you know, send each other funny tweets. We don't have Instagram group chats. We do use Instagram just like, but like Instagram is almost like become more of like a, you know, for family at this point. See, I think I.
Like my friends have the Instagram group chats.
Like none of my friends use Twitter besides me.
I think that's a male female thing.
Yeah, I think it's a male female thing.
Because you guys are sending pictures.
Pictures and stuff.
I didn't use Twitter.
I like I barely used Twitter until I started working here.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's most people don't use Twitter.
Yeah.
Like one of the least used.
Right.
Which is interesting why he would target this because it's like,
I think it's a lure is why the people that use it, use it.
It's a lure to me is.
is Instagram to me is basically just a digital mall.
Like everybody's selling everything.
And it's like it's because it's the algorithmically, it doesn't have anything to do.
It doesn't keep you up to date with anything.
And so it's just basically you follow things that you're interested in content-wise as far as videos, shopping, shit like that.
But Twitter is more so a discourse.
It's about it's about talking and discussing ideas, woo-de-woo.
And that's not going to be that popular with younger people.
They just want to see cool dances and do cool shit.
Right.
Which is interesting to me why Eli would want to buy that.
I'm hoping it doesn't lose the allure of that where he tries to compete in the market
so that he can make it profitable because it's going to dilute why the people that are there still are there in the first place.
Yeah, I mean, Twitter's previous regime as of three hours ago also was constantly trying to turn it into Instagram.
like even the last
modification they made to the timeline
they widened it much like
Instagram like every they
they tried to bring up the random timeline thing
which is only Instagram like they
Twitter had no idea what
they should be
like I had no clue
and so it'll be interesting
if he brings
like I think the open source thing is the only thing
I'm super interested in that he's talked about
so far money money ruined
everything bro
for sure
start compete she just dilutes the shit though i mean we were talking about with the NBA before
people who've been on twitter long enough love talking about oh you guys weren't around for
2011 Twitter that's when it was real twitter like people gatekeep anything
absolutely anything including a social media app their twitter in like 2010 sucked
it was bad you could it did it did it's always sucked that but that's like the baseline
like it's always sucked but it was twitters i love twitter then like
That's what I mean.
It was different.
That's when people were on Christmas fighting each other over Kobe Bryant takes.
Like that was the Twitter I love.
No, that was later like manual retweets and stuff back in 2012.
There's a weird place.
It was very strange.
Definitely.
Look completely different.
You couldn't put pictures on there.
You had to like click on a picture to get it to show up.
If you used to be able to upload something on Instagram and the whole image would show up on Twitter.
And Instagram was like, we're knocking this the fuck off.
right now.
You know what I want?
I'm not at our free pictures.
I don't mind it.
You know what I want from Musk?
You have the verification badge, right?
I want like 20 different badges.
And if you were,
like if your account has been on Twitter,
like before you could put pictures,
you get a badge.
Like medals.
Yeah.
Like a general in the war.
Yeah.
And you can just collect badges.
I live through the binders full of women debate on Twitter back into it.
I'm a veteran.
See,
I wouldn't have that badge.
I don't know what that is.
I was there for the colored dress debacle.
No,
yeah.
Yeah.
That's a badge.
That's a badge.
Like the knights on Twitter, like the biggest one was, uh, do you remember, do you remember the, uh, the
poll assassin's monkey?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, the one that I was thinking of was, uh, the N-word Navy was a very funny night.
A nigger Navy.
Yeah.
That was like, that was a, that was a, Billy's brain just grinded to a halt trying to figure
that one.
No, I think he knew it, but he just, he just, he, he, he's, he, he was a lot.
I didn't know how to do that's like, how am I going to get this message across without
Aryan punching me through a computer.
But that was like voted is one of the best nights on Twitter.
Oh, maybe the best one ever.
People don't talk about this one anymore when I think it was US Air tweeted out that picture
of a plane in the pussy.
A chick that was blasting herself with a model airplane right in her pussy.
Yeah.
Like hardcore porn.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Hang on.
That was a good one.
Or when, uh, or when Ted Cruz retweeted porn.
you like porn
like porn on 9-11
like porn yes
like incest porn
specifically
yeah the context
there matters
what was another great night
I think it was US air
yeah big T
I mean like this slap
is one of the most recent ones
oh my
it wasn't a good night
but it was just
it was a reply to someone
says we welcome feedback
Elle if your travel is complete
you can detail it here
for review and follow up
and then it sure is
just a picture of a woman
it's very graphic
It's as graphic as you could possibly be
Don't look at it on a work computer
But you if you weren't around for that one
You should definitely get
I should have a medal on my chest
For being around when playing girl
That was
Are they still an airline?
I think they merged
I think they merged
As an aviation expert
I think that tweet sunk them
I would put the Kobe Bryant on Christmas
up against any night on Twitter
That was
Yo, all right, everybody
give me, I'll give you some time.
Everybody gave me their top tweet
of all time. Oh, that's easy.
All right, I'm going to go first
to get everybody, get everybody
get their shit in order. This was the
funniest shit in the world to me.
I spilled baked beans
all over myself watching.
Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
I miss, I spilled baked beans all over myself
watching Cars 2 in the theaters
and a black teenager shouted,
This nigga eating beans and everybody laughed.
Alaskin Carl, shout out the legend.
Very clearly a white guy and no one's ever got mad at him because it's so funny.
This is the most classic tweet of all times.
This nigga eating beans.
And everybody laughed.
He stands up in points.
He's like, everyone.
Oh, man.
Okay, that's mine.
I got another one if y'all, if you don't want to.
I mean, mine is definitely, I just sent it in the group.
But it's happy Cinco de Mayo, the best Taco Bowls are made at Trump Tower Grill.
I love Hispanics.
Oh, my God.
And he's just smiling.
He didn't take a single bite of that.
He threw that out the window seconds after this picture.
Oh, man.
The Tony, wait, what else happened?
Tyler has a good 500 of them.
Yeah, Tyler.
Oh, he has a good one.
He said, let me tell you why this isn't offensive.
That, that was, that's a top tier tweet, too, though.
Oh, my gosh.
And so people who haven't seen it,
it's a,
it's a white dude dressed in a Native American costume outside of the Indians fan.
You have you a full Cleveland Indians fan talking to an actual Native American.
And he's kind of like mansplaining why his finger in his face.
He's got a finger in his face.
Actually, it's not offensive friend.
And let me tell you why.
As a, as a, as a Guardians fan, I disavow that tweet.
No, it's a great tweet.
The assault.
Tweet.
I'm Schefter.
That's a good one.
Oh, that's top tier.
That's top tier.
That was so fucking funny.
I have that in my meme folder, actually.
He's got nothing else, just assault.
He couldn't believe it.
I like, I mean, there's so many good drill tweets out there, too.
Yeah, I'm trying to run through all the drill ones right now.
There's a, one of my favorites is the one where he says,
I don't, I don't even care if they cancel sports.
Howard Stern.
That's wild.
That's wild.
Oh, who's another dude that died?
He took a picture of some random ass, like, Walmart basketball.
And he said, LeBron James.
Yeah, he said, LeBron James.
Do you like what you see?
He said, at Lurban, Jane.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, Tom Brodudu has a deep catalog, very deep catalogs.
That's right.
It's Brodud, it's Tyler, it's drill.
I mean, PFT, you're in this conversation.
I'm not saying that just because you're sitting here.
You're absolutely in this conversation before you sold your.
Kyle. Yeah, old, yeah, the old owner. Yeah. Uh, oh, Dises. Desis, early DECIS, bro. Yeah. He's up there, dog.
Early DECIS might be to go. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think in terms of the most laugh out loud tweets that I've seen from one person, I think it's Tyler. I think Tyler has the best bangers. Now, he tweets a lot. Uh, and he's always on the app conversing with people. But when he's just, when he's firing off his thoughts, like,
the real, his best tweets
I would put up there with anybody.
Right, he's like, I told him this
one time, I was like, dog, like, follow.
I don't like people that, like, retweet other people.
I mute, because you can mute retweets.
Like, if somebody's retweeting, so you can mute those.
So I have that muted for a lot of people.
But for him, I told him, it's like,
following him is like a, it's an entire inside joke.
Yeah.
It's just like a community, bro.
And it's fucking hilarious.
He's a very enjoyable follow.
I don't even think he did, like, understood what he did when he was doing.
that like he has like i don't i don't you say the word uses in a negative thing but like his
followers add to the joke and like yeah it's like he's like marshawn lynch and the seahawks defense
like they feed off each other specs yeah um oh i got one okay is avery just sent one to the chat
that i i tend to agree with when donald trump quote tweeted uh m p lefty 67 if hillary
clinton can't satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy america
and that was actually like a real tweet that that he put out or even ran it's just wild that's yeah
it's 2015 i love the kim jang one north korean leader kim jang un just stated that the nuclear
button is on his desk at all times will someone from his depleted and food star regime please
inform him that i too have a nuclear button but it is much bigger and more powerful than the one that's
no and much more powerful one than his and my button works i think the drill tweet the og drill
tweet was hilarious i can't say word for word but basically it was like a list of costs per week
the candles candles yeah i like him going after norstrom for treating ivanka poorly i like when
he just uses one word with the exclamation point terrible all right you this lebron tweeting you
bum Steph Curry when he was
talking to Trump
in doing it very
LeBron's got some good ones
LeBron lying openly about
like I knew that when the Patriot is down
283 I told everyone this is
this is when Tom's going to get like he just lies
about everything. He lies about every sport
every like viral sports moment
everything. Jalen Suggs
yep he's a
he's a hashtag he lied about Scotty Barnes this year
he was like man I saw him in fourth grade
and I knew he was the one's like what are you talking about
LeBron is the king of the hashtag.
He does do a good hashtag.
Just my own thoughts, regardless my own sport I play.
Zero dark 30.
Zero dark 30, 23.
Yes, correct.
I can't find it.
There's this one where it was like this art piece and like two people had like their heads cut in half and then one was like pouring out water into another one.
And this dude says, I don't know what the fuck this shit mean.
If I share my headwater, you better not cheat, bitch.
Headwater is a phrase I've stuck with me for so long.
Oh, Tyler's best tweet, she'll call you back.
She just had a little sex.
No, I hate that one.
That's what's worst tweet, actually.
Yeah, I hate that one.
Actually.
Google really likes that.
BFT, I think you would know who penned it.
But what's the Skip and Stephen A?
Like, I would never defend the Holocaust and Skip's not.
There are two canonical, is that the correct?
Yeah, there's crab rangoons.
The crab rangoons, which is one about first take.
Then the other one is like, it was by Hegelbon.
Okay.
Trevor Strunk is what he goes by on Twitter.
And he was doing the, like, Stephen A. Smith conversing with Skip Bayliss being like,
you know that I don't support in any way, shape, or form the Holocaust.
and then Skip's like, yep, absolutely.
And then Stephen A. Smith, she goes, but, but there's, uh, there's one back when I think
it was like, if you tweeted too long for Twitter, it just broke it up into separate tweets,
uh, like when people used to text to tweet.
And so there's one from Stephen A. Smith.
I mean, you talk about someone who has some bangers.
I know we talked about him earlier on the show, but he's got one that he's like ESPN, LA,
850, uh, we will be talking about.
this, this, and this.
We will not, however, be discussing the homosexual.
And that's just where it ends.
It just ends right.
What was he talking about?
I think I can't remember what the next thing was, but it was just the fact that it ends that
I never want to know.
I don't care.
Where it went after that.
It's perfect tweet.
When he talks about, Atlanta is my personal, Sodom and Gomorrah.
Like, hell, damn, and ass are mild cusswords that I allow on my page.
he had a funny one where he was like he was tweeting out a picture but it was just the letters
it was just the letters and so people all yeah take a look y'all yeah take a look y'all it's like
i m g.3706 and like people just spamming with a whole bunch of shit like that now there's uh
bibles and blow jobs he just added and said the hell is wrong with you
there's there's an entire category we could also include people that claim that they were hacked
after the fact so james brown uh you might recognize him from
NFL Sundays tweeted out a video it was he was on a porn site I think it was damp lips.com
and he hit the tweet button to share the video I don't know why these websites have Elon
must get rid of that button yeah yeah that's actually a great point get rid of the share video
button oh because then we wouldn't have this laugh we're sharing right now and james brown
tweeted out it's worth it sexy little black sexy little brunette bitch sucking and fucking her
personal trainer's big cock
and
I think that there's
it was it said something on the website about like
black guy fucks damp lips
or something like that just crazy
oh oh the
you want the not you want the pipe
uh well that
when you think about me when you think about me
a Ray Allen yeah Ray Allen
the Ray Allen
that's a DM I thought's a different
no the Ray Allen was a tweet
it was
yeah he thought it was a
I thought it was a D.
The, you can get, you want the pipe was a DM.
Yeah,
Smith.
Yeah.
I was thinking of Chris Palmer NBA.
Kevin Durant famously said, you, you're the only person I know who got fired from ESPN
for being a dumbass.
But he tweeted out, I think it was supposed to be a text.
And it was just number three.
Did you orgasm the other night?
Don't lie.
And it's like, what were the first two?
What were the first two points of that conversation that was third?
I only know Chris Palmer from being the first person to diagnose that explosion that took place in Lebanon as being very clearly a nuclear bomb that went off.
That's right.
I forgot about that.
It's a mushroom cloud.
Anyone can see that.
That's a nuke.
I forgot about that.
Kevin Durant's also on that Mount Rushmore.
That's why that was the whole reason the burner thing pissed me off.
He didn't need it.
He's too good of a tweeter.
Yeah, the one that I have, I have it pinned.
I quote tweeted just so I could pin it to my profile.
I'll never log off.
There's no relax, champ.
No relax when I'm on Twitter.
I'm on 10 until the second I close the app.
You relax.
Great tweet.
Wait a second.
You can actually search your DMs based on keywords.
How?
Did they just put that in?
I don't know if it just got put in.
Shout out Elon.
But I just tried.
It's been there.
It's been there.
It's been there.
Just type in a word and then you just hit messages.
And it's just there.
Incredibly.
If you think a woman's attractive, you're thirsty.
Absurd.
I will drink Scarlett Johansson's bathwater
what else
Durant's Durant has so many classics
Even his old Black Planet page
Like he's Kevin Durant's been online
That's one thing you can say about him
He's seen every negative thing said about him
These first three games
Absolutely
All right let's do some voicemails
when did pft when did you join twitter
2012
okay
i want to say i got more badges than you don't you do
you do you've seen some shit i haven't seen i joined 2009
damn i think that's me too i i had a twitter
i think i joined in 24 13 i was 2013
yeah on my old twitter right
You know, you, I was tweeting in high school?
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's when, that's when I was the most on Twitter.
Sounds very dangerous.
I wasn't really doing anything.
I was getting a lot of trouble.
I'm glad, I'm glad there was no Twitter.
Dude, you didn't even understand yik yak.
That was dangerous.
That was anarchy.
That was literally the purge, bro.
Is that a, is that an app?
It's Twitter, but it's anonymous.
It's anonymous Twitter geolocation.
So you, if you yik yak something, it was only, like, within a mile radius, you could see it.
Anonymous, it was like,
posting something on a board. It was basically like an automated bathroom stall that was
getting graffiti. Like you could be like this does this. Like, you know, this person hooked up
with this person saw this guy smoking weed in the bathroom. So I know somebody who worked on
the building that it was like a co-working tech space that Yikyak started out of. And when we went
to look at it, they were showing us all like the different businesses that were in there. I'm like,
this is Yikyak. It's like an anonymous, you know, messaging app. I was like, oh, that sounds interesting.
and then it turned into the most toxic thing
that's ever existed.
Yeah, dude, like.
You want to, yeah, like.
If you could just post secrets.
It was awful.
Yeah.
Never post secrets.
But you could get away with it.
Why would you ever post a secret?
People were just lying on there.
I'm going to tell my kids one day, never post secrets.
Like, stop.
That's the rule.
Yeah.
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Yep.
Hey, Matt, producing crew.
This is Corey from Orlando, Florida.
a huge fan of the pod
I've been listened since the beginning
and so my question to you guys is
given that there are a lot of
different viewpoints, opinions
and life experiences in general
from with everybody on the show
if you could choose one other
person and have them
either go to some event or experience
something of your choosing
and they're not allowed to say no
who would you pick and what would you make them do
thanks for all you guys do
I would
I would take Bob Coosie
and I would drop him into game four
of the Net Celtic series
and just see what happens
I thought he meant on the show
I think he's doing the people on the podcast
okay got it
but that too
but L oh fucking L though
poor Bob Coosie
that's fucking
Coosie got
he got Bruce Brown
you got toe up
I feel bad for Bob Coozy
like legitimate legend he's fine he only exists to get roasted now uh is a good question though
uh anybody in this room or i'm taking big tea to like any function that we have as a family
like a whole just a whole bunch of black people dog we have big ass cookout dice games card games
going rap music plant just me and big tea kicking it at the cookout though i bet he'd have fun
that sounds like a great time absolutely i didn't
and say it's a bad thing.
Then we jump.
And then we jump as that.
Not that'd be fun.
That'd be fun.
That'd be fun.
I love the good.
Hmm.
Did Billy just invite himself?
Yeah.
I think you do it, bro.
Low key.
Low key.
I have two.
Okay.
I want to put Big Tea back in college
and have like 18 year old big tea
drunk at a frat party.
That's a crime.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Sorry, I didn't say to do anything with them.
You would have a whole bunch of Disney movies playing at the course.
And then I would have, I would probably have, honestly, it could be all of you.
Probably Billy, though, I would say.
Just be like a girl for like a week.
Yeah, a week.
Billy as a girl for a week would be, I would be fascinated.
Yeah.
You would really gain a lot of perspective.
That's what, that's what.
really what the goal I like just a perspective thing I would love to see the takes Billy would have about guys yeah after a week spent actually like a very attractive woman in a very there's actually some very interesting reddit threads of women who transition to men like fully and they it's like very interesting to talk about their reactions to testosterone and like being in a male gender role how people interact with you in the world and all the things that they discovered
like how basically
most people are very emotionally cold to you
I'll find the pose
that's actually fascinating about
and yeah I mean I'd be down
like from a to from like
just to see what it is like just to see
just to see like a day to day
would I be hot? Yeah you could be hot
you can be hot so you can be like objective
No but a cheat code no but like hot
so you like get objectified
I would see what that's like
I think you would you would take it
I know what it's like to be objectified
I sit next to Joey and Pat
Oh, that's true.
You would also get very, you would get very annoyed, I think at the same time.
How?
Being a girl.
Existing.
Existing.
Yeah.
Who's are, who's are fucking horrible, bro.
Dude, but there's like one thing.
Like, we are the reason why there's two different bathrooms.
One thing I learned.
That's insane, though.
One thing I learned is, it's definitely different.
But when I was in college and I had a broken leg and I had to, like,
like use crutches to get around everywhere seeing what was that look billy are you seeing that
like being a girl would be like losing a third life no no that's not what i'm saying at all i'm
saying i'm saying that when i when i was on crutches and i was very slow getting around and
obviously like uh it was you're saying women are physically that's not what i'm saying
i'm saying the level of empathy that i was shown on a daily basis was like off the chart it was
crazy people were so nice to me all the time people would like hold doors and like wait for me for
a long ways away and like help me with like picking shit up at my desk if I needed help
everybody was like super super helpful and then you go to no longer having a broken leg and you're
like wow people are just really cold to dudes all the time just like very it's every man for
himself out there handicapped handicapped pt is just like being a woman no i said it's different
are you saying women are handicapped i i said the overall point was i i feel like people just need
excuse to be nice to people sometimes yeah i mean honestly in those writings they talked about
one of the most fascinating was how a woman transitioning was like she was on the subway and she'd been
taking testosterone placement there or testosterone therapy for about six months she all of a
sun started to get a crazy violent or sexual thoughts about everyone on the train yeah i don't
I think you just experiencing like or like speaking so like having to think about where to sit on the subway or you know double double thinking everything people giving up their shit for me no not that one I think about that shit too because like you know I got two daughters but also have a sister and a mom and like I always think about it's how it's like I don't think anything about like man I got to go run to the store late night or whatever right let's go grab something whatever they have to think like is it safe like if I walk to my car like is it like is it like
They have to think about that shit all the time every day.
And it's like even more so like, not even more so, this is less.
But I was playing Valorant the other day, as I often do nowadays.
And there was a girl on one of our teams.
And she just spoke.
She was giving comms for what was going on in the game.
And the dudes in our team just started being crazy.
Like they've never heard a woman talk before.
Oh, oh, oh, you have titties, baby.
Hey, hey, can I look at them?
It's like, girl, what the fuck is wrong?
I'm like, please, please mute them.
I apologize for my sex on behalf of all these idiots.
It's just crazy that they have to deal with that shit.
By the way, Matt,
I have no doubt that it's definitely a very different worldview
and there's different things you have to deal with.
But like, I really think I'm in, like,
I need to see that to be more tolerant towards women.
And I was just about to say,
I'm not doing this to you because I think you are like the most sexist
on this podcast or anything like that.
But I think being 22 or 23 and seeing it,
like I think that would change a lot of things.
Who's the most sexist on?
I don't think any of you guys.
I think actually being the only girl on a podcast with six dudes,
like you guys couldn't be less sexist towards me.
So.
Thank you.
Thank you,
Matt Dogg,
for the round of applause.
Do you ever feel like any of us man explains you?
Because sometimes I feel like that.
You do.
But it's okay.
I would love Billy to be female for a week just strictly for the takes that he would have.
Or fascinating insights he would have into men when he came back.
Also, I think it would be interesting to see Billy,
like be a girl and then come back.
and then be like, dude, boobs are so great.
Like, pull some.
I feel like, but I feel like, I feel like by, let's say I was a girl and I was in that
situation, I'd realize that they like strain your back or something.
Right.
That's the perspective you want me to have.
So now I'm confused.
I just want Billy to have, I just want Billy to have a little bit of perspective from my side
because I feel like if you're like PFT airing Coley's age, you just have a little bit more
life experience in general.
and like coley has children and arian has have children i think billy would be like you know what
not having like a dick and balls i just ride a bike everywhere it's awesome it's so so much more
comfortable you know how much toilet paper we save when we pee compared to them we're low-key
safe for the planet dicks and more efficient but that's just that's not a you thing
just because i need the experience just because i think any you're so hung up on this thing
I don't understand why do you want me to be the woman I don't think she was calling you out no I could have been it could be Avery could be big T could be any of you guys uh also this is more for any 23 year old man listening to this podcast like this could be for any of you I hope that when Billy becomes a yeah when you become a woman you're on your period yeah which week is it put it can I be obvi like yeah no don't you're not obviating you're like that's what it's fun Billy's gonna be on his period for the week that he's a woman yeah you'd be minstrating and then Billy would be like I think obvioling yeah I think obviour
would be a tougher test if Billy's horned up to the max.
No, but if, if, if it was societal, you know, expectations.
But Billy having to like, if Billy's,
really having to like go to Target and buy tampons for the week that he's a woman.
He'd also be like, it sucks.
My max was like so much lower because I had less iron.
My iron solo.
Yeah, that'd be wild.
All right, good question.
Anybody, anybody else?
I didn't get together.
I would, uh, I would take.
to the bank
and have him
withdraw all of his money
and give it to me.
So Aryan's got the
900 credit rating
he's giving cars
to people on bets and shit
no no no
he won that
they're given to me
he won that bet
have you gotten that
it's not to
it's not to be done
to like the summer
got it
just in time
Big T what's your answer
I want the rich
socialists on this show
there are multiple
you can pick who they are
I am not a socialist
okay
or communist
whatever
Those are not the same things whatsoever.
Okay. One rich communist and another rich left-leaning ideologically to go live in Venezuela for a few weeks and then see how bad we hate America.
I mean, I would love to. Also in Venezuela, I might do that anyway.
They're under like a military type regime where it's like a dictatorship.
Yeah, I think they're all locked up right now. There's a COVID.
There's a lot of bad stuff going on in Venezuela.
How many capitalistic dictatorships do you know of?
dictatorships there are several
like when you're talking about like
if there's a dictatorship I don't think that you can
necessarily have pure capitalism
just like you can't have pure communism
we don't have pure capitalism
we don't like the police like as I was talking about earlier
the we live in a socialist society
yeah far too much so I agree
what
I just remembered I'm bankrupted
because I got hungry
do you really not have any money
you did show me his bank up it said zero dollar
how do you not have any money
because the state of West Virginia
went into my bank account over the weekend
took everything
meaning like West Virginia
woke up to a text on Sunday morning
minus couple grand
and I was like ah
taxation is stuff Billy get on the train
and also I have a lot of expense reports
that haven't been paid out yet
which I also would go on a rant about
but I enjoy being employed
do you have a
We don't have free speech
at this company is what you're saying
I think all we can talk about it is a
I'm not no I
people are doing jobs
I do have a credit card
but it only hasn't
that that also took a hit
except to pay that
no I'm just
I'm not complaining about real lifeing
I'm not asking for money either
I just wanted to say
I declare bankruptcy
like
until like
until we get paid yeah because i can survive i have tons of food i'll make it i if i can survive
to the wild no i have tons of food at home yeah you want some of my survival suit no actually
they're actually like as to be like real conversation there are people who are way less fortunate
than me i'm not trying to take the piss i just wanted to do the uh michael scott joke
that a british term take the piss yeah why is that in your why why is that in your lexicon
I'm an MI6
sleeper cell
He's been watching a lot of soccer
Espionize I don't know about you
Billy I really hope I'm a sleeper
Take the piss is valid
Term
More voicemails
Yep
Did everybody go?
Actually you know I said take the piss
Does anybody have any other ones?
I would want to
Take Maddie and make her a dude
For the day
In high school
Yeah
No no actually I want to make you a 13 year old boy
Okay
All right
Who's hitting puberty
Okay
So yeah that's like
Probably not fun
Okay
Everyone
Anyone?
Yeah let's go
Next one
Okay
What's up all you beautiful people
This is Sam from Pittsburgh
You'll see
Different movie memorabilia
Go for like exorbitant
In prices at auction
and like the Ruby Red Slippers from the Wizard of Oz
or like Dark Vader's helmet or something like that.
But what is the one piece of movie memorabilia
that you would want to own?
Thanks. Love you guys.
It's a good question.
Movie memorabilia.
I've got mine.
Go off.
The, it's not a pickax.
The rock hammer from Shalshank Redemption.
Oh, yeah.
that's what's that called it's not i would take the bible from shashank but that's just me i appreciate
the good word maybe a little bit more than you do but that's fine well that bible take the weapon
you take the weapon oh my god idiots isn't it is the hammer called shashank called a shashank called
the shashank or is that the name of the prison can i think it could be both i thought it was a rock
hammer in the movie in the movie they were calling like a rock camera yeah rock camera i think is what
why I've thought it was like special
there's two you either take iron man suit
or you take the game ball from
the longest yard
wait wait so we get to we get it like it was in the movie
yeah it's like the limitless pill
good answer stick that in your trophy case
oh we can do fictional
yeah we get it sure why not
I'm living on pandora
I'm living on pandora
but you can't live there you have not really the same
Same thing, but we'll allow it.
He gets the whole planet.
Yeah, you just get the planet.
Billy gets to take a fucking made up pill, but I can't go live in another planet.
What are you talking about?
So you get the whole planet?
So you get, you want the planet?
No, I get to share it with its inhabitants and the nature around.
You can only pick one.
But that's not memorabilia.
That's just...
I know.
If we're going memorabilia, it can't be the limitless pill.
Okay, yeah, okay.
I thought the concept was you can have whatever...
No, it's like a prop.
Like how the Ruby Redslivers from Wizard of Oz.
Okay. All right.
I'll take Aryan Foster's hands from Draft Day.
Listen, they're bruised.
He just beat the shit out of some guy.
Who that?
Your character.
You were sliding in the draft because you got into a scrap.
Yeah, Ray Jennings, you know what I'm saying?
You know, you run up on Ray Jennings the wrong way.
Something might happen to you.
But it wasn't a kid.
It's a grown man, just like you.
Let's see.
I'm going to be a brow.
Just like you pop.
Said no one ever.
Hey.
Have we talking about Baker, the Baker debacle?
Well, it's too late, the podcast to start that.
Other the statue?
The statue or the whole thing.
Or him yelling at people in cubicles?
Just, just everything.
Yeah, that's a lot.
What, wait, what happened?
Oh, yelling in cubicles.
Mike's done.
you know my favorite movie everything's digital so there's nothing real from that movie that i can have
so i think if i'm going to have to have one it's um it's morphius's glasses from uh the matrix
ooh what you said about avatar is not true though you could have like the tank or something
i don't want to think okay but there are things wait but when you said the ironman suit that wasn't a real
thing. The tank wasn't real. It's a physical thing.
It was a real. It has to be
real, right? Yeah. I think you
don't, you don't think that was a real prop?
The tank
that was digitally? No,
I got a better one. The Batmobile from
Dark Knight.
See, I was thinking
like a vehicle as well.
I don't know if I want the Batmobile. I would
want like the Bat
like motorcycle he
has. Yeah, that physically can't flip.
In practice.
That's my biggest quam with being on a motorcycle currently
is that I know I'd flip it.
But that one can't flip.
But the power or are any dope-ass car from any fast and furious,
that'd be fired too.
Yeah.
I'd want the Titanic.
Yeah, I was thinking something like a house.
From Titanic.
And then I would sail it in the exact same path as the Titanic.
High stuff.
Yep.
Titanic 2, bitch, running it back.
Except you'd swerve it.
The Dark Night Batmobile is sick.
I would take it.
I mean, honestly, the new Batmobile and the new one might be like the best practical car, like for a human.
Practical.
Yeah, I don't mean best Batmobile.
It was just a Corvette.
Right.
That's what I mean.
Yeah.
Oh, I got it.
The cane from that all white dude from Jurassic Park with the little mosquito frozen in the sap.
That would be fired to have.
I was trying to think Jurassic Park.
The original Jurassic Park.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was trying to think like...
Or that Jeep, that Jeep was kind of fired too.
The Jeep strong.
Yeah, the Ford Explorer.
Is that the one that you're talking about?
Yeah, it's not technically, it's not a Jeep.
Like, everyone's remade them to be Wranglers,
but I don't think the original one was actually a Wrangler.
I think it was like a Bronco or something.
No, I think it was a Ford Explorer that followed the path like all the way through the park.
right.
That was a Jeep, bro.
Oh, is it?
I'm looking it up right now.
It was, this is starting to, oh, which one?
The ones from the ride or the one they can go off-roading in when they find the Triceratops poop?
No, I'm talking about the ones that you take all throughout the park on the panel.
I think they're all Ford.
You're Ford Explorers, yeah.
Yeah, I was talking about the ones where they go off-road in, that's a G-D.
Like when they go look for everybody, like this one.
That's the G.
Yep.
Okay.
It's a great chorus in that movie.
Good American muscle.
If it were real, like the actual footprint, like the T-Rex footprint, if I can get that fossilized, that would be a nice, like, display piece.
Dude, a skull would be great.
Take it back.
Michael Jackson's jacket in a thriller video.
Oh.
The red one or the one, the little, the little, the little, uh, Letterman jacket.
What about his glove?
Fire.
How cool.
Are Eddie Murphy's entire leather suit from the stand-up?
Was that Delirious or raw?
I believe it was raw.
I actually...
I think these both were...
Deliris was...
Let's see, hold on.
I kind of take that back because there's no way that I'd be able to pull that off.
I would look so fucking stupid in that thing.
Can I have...
It was Delirious, too.
Delirious was the red one.
Oh, Brad Pitt's helmet and Troy.
It's pretty badass.
you know what I was obsessed with
I was obsessed with
Tom Cruise's helmet
in Top Gun
the Maverick drum
Yeah that's sick
I love that I love that helmet
Speaking of which
Isn't that Top Gun 2 coming out
Yeah
I believe so
Yeah it is coming out on Friday
I will be watching
Oh is that soon
Can't wait
Oh it's coming off Friday
I believe so
Oh my mom's driving down
For my son's birthday
We're gonna get it in
Might have to make a whole night of it
might do Top Gun than the Rangers game.
I've never seen Top Gun the first one.
Oh, you haven't?
I haven't seen a lot of God.
When Billy makes your 13-year-old boy, you can do that.
Wait, why we're talking about the helmet from Top Gun?
We just take Maverick's plane.
His Jet, his F-14B Tomcat?
Yeah, you just put it in your front lawn.
Yeah, no, that's what I want, actually.
Honestly, I don't know if you really know.
Against HOA.
Name three pre-Korean War planes.
Okay, the P-51 must-one.
the Mitsubishi
Mitsubishi Zero
and the Spitfire
You just got
I should just said
American
I should just said American planes
because I didn't
Okay
All right
Didn't
Nick 52
Got strata
Got C0
You got C0
Billy
Billy
You got fucking mopped up
Those
I was in
No no
I don't think he took a breath
In between
I want to know
I really want to say
What I really want to say is named
Three Fighter
Fighter
I would say
Yo, yo, Avery again
Another copyright issue
I played the
Let's Go Home audio
You know the let's go home
Let's go home ladies and gentlemen
From the NBA
Dunk contest
With Vince Carter
I don't know why I got copyrighted
I guess it was in some random song
By Lyndon Tyson
I don't know
Regardless
Whatever
Enjoy the rest of the show
That doesn't count
Because he named three different countries
I meant to say
American play
I outlined the criteria, but what I meant to say, well, Billy, you are hilarious.
Billy goes, I don't think you know about planes.
And then I just shoved three planes up his ass.
Yeah, I think it was more impressive than he went a different guy.
Don't shove vehicles up my ass, petto.
Oh, God.
Here we go.
See, that's a likely response.
That's totally fine.
God, Billy, I didn't want to have to body you up like that, but when you came after my aviation knowledge, I had to put you in.
He's zipped you up.
He flies planes every night, dog.
What does you smoke?
Yeah, Billy.
don't even know how to land planes.
Dude, the thing is...
Billy, can you name three
American fighter pilots from pre-care
fighter planes?
Yeah, the P-47 Thunderbolt.
I'm not going to use the Mustang,
the Corsair,
and I'm going to go with one more,
which is the...
This is the question
you supposedly were going to ask.
Well, because the P-51's the most obvious one.
I said fighter planes.
Fighter planes.
You said that after.
Not bombers.
No, she said fighter planes.
That's a different question.
Y'all are letting them.
Y'all are letting them.
this is obvious case and you got one more
plane the name buddy
I know and I am going
to go with one more
and the Tomcat and the Tomcat
the Tomcat is what
what Tom Cruise flew in Top Gun
which is decidedly post Korea
the F14
the Tomcat no no no but that's
an updated Tomcat named after the
original Tomcat wait the F14
I really want Billy to be right Tomcat
No I really want
Yep I don't yep
I can't have them taking two miles in a row like that.
I couldn't, I couldn't.
The Grumman F-45.
There's a hell cat.
Keep going, Billy.
The F-14 was the first of the American teen-series fighters,
which were designed incorporating air combat experience
against big fighters during the Vietnam War.
The F-4-5.
First flight.
The Grumman, it's a Grumman plane.
Billy, shut up.
The Tomcat.
The Tomcat, there's many Tom-Cats.
There's many iterations of the Tom-Cat.
The first flight of the F-14 Tomcat was in 1970.
Dude, I'm talking about...
It's a tough scene.
Okay.
I was talking about the Grumman F-4-5 Wildcat.
Okay, that's that one.
There's a hell cat.
He's a Tomcat.
I could have just said the P-51 Mustang, but I'm not a pussy.
I was talking about the Jaguars.
Oh, no, that's tough.
Wait, wait.
No, you got to take it out.
Just take it out.
It's okay.
The Tomcat's okay.
You can't be grabbing branches.
he said name three and you took all of his three
so he had nothing else to go no I didn't wait
there's another explain to me the difference real quick
between the F-35 and the F-22
I didn't realize P.
It has to do it.
I can't believe Billy picked one thing
he apparently knows so well
everybody knows the Tomcat
this guy knows planes
their radar detection systems
and their weapons delivery
no explain in layman's terms
why is the F-35 the new
airplane that the United States has sunk so much
their weapons detection their
radar that about any plane though
dude that's so no that's soft
I just proved you wrong
no you didn't I told you their
weapons delivery system and their
radar detection what's the difference about their
what's the difference between their weapons delivery system
the F-35 I sure can't deliver nuclear
weapons I think that the big difference
Billy is that the F-22 is designed to be strictly
like mostly used in air to air
but I'm explaining exactly
factor with the differences. The F-35 was designed so that we wouldn't have to have so many
different miles of planes. It would be an all-in-one strike force against air-to-ground targets and air-to-air
targets. Everything I said encompasses that. I'm sorry that I know way more about planes than you.
You just got into planes. I've been into planes. You just got into planes. All right.
Oh, I forgot he does. He already knows more. I know a lot about planes. I'm pretty much the biggest
plane. I think I could name more World War II fighter fighter planes
then you can't.
Hold on you already lost one time.
I think you just...
Twice.
I didn't lose twice.
We're doing it.
It's a best to seven.
Well, you owe two right now.
Billy, you lost down to-oh.
Billy, why lost Mitsubishi zeros?
Why were they such tough plans for us to deal with?
No, no, they were shitty.
They were made out balsa wood.
And the reason why they were so tough is because they didn't give a fuck about them
and just use them as kamikaze plans.
The answer is you kind of, you touched on a little bit with the balsawood.
They were so much lighter and they were more maneuverable.
So they could, in a dog fight scenario.
they could out maneuver a lot of our planes because...
Right, but they were trash as soon as they got hit.
The thing is they could produce more of them and send more people in them.
The maneuverability didn't really help until they got a lock on them
because they only had to get two shots on them and they burned.
It did help.
People would burn alive.
They had no ejection.
I'm aware.
They didn't even give them parachutes.
It was light.
It wasn't a problem.
Actually, it was more numbers, to be honest.
It was the numbers of planes they would send.
If you found yourself in a one-on-one guns-only dog fight against a Mitsubi-Bee-Zero...
because they would move and over six.
It would be tough.
If you got a shot on them, that's good.
No, but they could get on your six.
I mean, get on your six.
Mitsubishi's there.
It would be all over Billy's six.
No, I don't even know.
No,
there'd be like six Mitsubishi six is.
Come meet me in the skies, Billy.
Do you know what?
I will.
I fucking will.
I want to download this game.
I'm going to go shoot you down.
You don't know.
I want to hunt you down.
I want to hunt you down.
I don't even know the standard navigation systems.
Oh, do you know the difference?
Yeah, of course I do.
Just explain it.
ILS is used for instrument-only landings and poor visibility.
It guides you to the runway.
Whereas if you're flying visually using your standard navigational system,
then you go to waypoint by waypoint and you can navigate to the landing strip visually.
ILS is designed to be used at nighttime and bad weather.
So you don't have to have all those visual contact points, bitch.
That was insane.
All right.
Sorry to body billy so up.
Body billy's up so badly.
I'm going to red bear in your ass.
Okay.
That was Alabama versus like Canada
That isn't even true
That's like the thing is I'm going off of
He's been drilling for a week
And I'm just going off the cup
Way long than that buddy
Sometimes it's a to admit your else
I've been taking too many hours recently
He's bankrupt
He took like 12 in a row
I only have one eyebrow
That was Mayweather just handing him out
It's a long story
All right
That does it for this week's Macrodose
and we'll see you guys on Thursday
and we'll talk draft day on Thursday
so the assignment for everybody
in this room is watch draft day the movie
I'm not gonna watch it will do
watch a movie suggested by people on his podcast
fuck off I like that movie
what is this rock movie that we've been watching
this whole time
what this rock
the rock Dwayne the Rock meet
oh it was Con Air for a while
but then after now Dwayne the Rock Johnson's on there
and he's been in strip clubs and stuff
I'm not sure it sounds awesome though
I was like walkout.
It's been very distracting, which is why I couldn't name all the planes.
Yeah, it's aftime.
So I was like talking about the Elcat because there was, uh, casinos, stripper and stuff.
It's tough.
All right.
Well, we will see you guys on Thursday.
Love you guys.
Thank you.