Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Exploring the True Origins of the Illuminati
Episode Date: May 25, 2023On today’s episode everyone is in the studio to take a deep dive into what the Illuminati is (00:54:06), where it came from, the history behind it and who’s involved. Plus we also get into all sor...ts of topics including golf, having the dog in you, truth social, politics, planes and much more.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing
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Okay, let me see.
I'll identify the plane for you.
Well, the thing is, they flew by me so fast, I couldn't even get a good picture.
They definitely did not break the sound barrier.
You're not allowed to break the sound barrier over residential neighborhoods.
It'll shadow windows.
Or maybe over the Hudson.
They went by pretty fast.
Yeah, there's no buildings near the Hudson River, you fucking moron.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
There's no buildings near the Hudson River.
I'm making fun of you.
There's, it might be the most densely populated part of the United States.
Well, if you fly, you're not allowed to fly over, but there's no buildings under, like underneath if you're over the Hudson River.
If an F-22, if four F-22 is information, flew over the river.
Here's a couple issues.
You're gatekeeping planes.
No, you just want to show you these fucking planes.
I just want to show you these fucking planes that I saw this morning and talked to you about planes.
They flew by so fast.
That's all I could get.
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What a fucking clap
Great clap at the start
It is Thursday
It's May 25th
May flew by huh
You're just getting old man
Everything flies by now
It does
It's actually scary how fast May flew by
Because I thought we were like in spring
But spring's like kind of almost over
And it's summer
It's like summertime yeah
Summer abs came and went didn't they
Lightweight summer
It's Labor Day abs
for now.
I've got like four abs, maybe three and a half.
I'm struggling, especially this New York trip.
I have ramen twice, so.
Yeah.
I might have it again after this, actually.
Ramen's the best.
Yeah, really?
I've been trying to still go for Memorial Day abs, had a little setback,
just been bawling, just two hours.
You did invite me yesterday.
I was...
You should come today.
Just, just like from a health standpoint.
Yeah.
Thanks, Billy.
Yeah, man.
Put me on track, man.
Show me the way.
professional athlete, Arian Foster,
I think you could use a little cardio.
Yeah.
If I was Arian, I would, or any player that played in the NFL,
after I retired, I'd just be like, not working out ever again.
Like a greyhound dog that ran for its entire life,
and then they get adopted, they just sleep all day.
That would be me.
That's facts.
And you see a lot of ex-athletes do that, especially running backs.
They blow up after that.
I refuse me.
So, like, I reach this point.
My gauge is like, you know, sometimes because I did.
I had that moment where I was like, I'm not doing shit ever again.
But then you have that moment where mine was like, you know, I was on the toilet, actually,
and I reached over, you know, to wipe myself.
And I felt a roll for the first time in my life.
And I was like, hell no.
You got in the way of your arm.
Well, not.
I didn't get in the way.
You could just feel your skin roll over.
Like my ribs, the skin of my ribs have never felt each other.
You know what I'm saying?
The top of my rib felt the middle of my rib.
And I ain't like that shit.
That's a great story.
Big T.
You should blog that.
Arian Foster knew it was time to get back in shape
because of something he discovered
when he was taking his shit.
Got it.
That's a good blog.
That's what happened.
So running backs,
I don't think that we've talked about that before,
but I do notice a tendency of former running backs
to get big afterwards.
You see offensive alignment,
they get small.
It's because it's not easy being 300 pounds.
Like, it's hard.
Like, it takes,
you have to eat a certain way,
you have to eat a lot,
you have to work out a certain way.
And they get sick of that shit carrying that around.
They get sick of eating while they're going to leave.
Yeah, so they,
They, we swap.
Yeah, but I refuse to be that running back.
You know what I says?
So I have stints where I'll, you know, I'll, I'll be relaxed for three or four months.
But then I feel that little roll, for the ribs touching, and we're out.
Nah, I got to hit it again.
There's a picture that I found.
So when I was cleaning out a bunch of stuff at my parents' old place, I was going
through old sports pictures that I had when I was growing up.
And so I've talked about it.
I don't know if I've talked about it on this show, but Mark Schlerth, the guy on Fox,
he used to be my coach.
for basketball and baseball when I was a kid for, I think, like, three seasons.
And I found a picture where he was one of the assistant coaches.
Oh, you found it.
And you've seen him on TV for the past, what, almost 20 years.
Yeah, he retired in 2000, I want to say, 2003, 2004 maybe.
And he's gotten really, really skinny.
He's even on, like, soap operas and shit.
Really?
Yeah.
So he's a skinny guy.
I found this picture of, um,
1998 so it's 13 years old on this team and look how big Mark is I know this is bad
this is bad podcast but I do want to get Arian's reaction that's mark top right hand
corner look how wide that man is god yeah just a mountain of the dude geez yeah damn
see I don't even remember him that big yeah you have to a lot of what are you though bro
yeah find me I'm the white the white kid that's okay okay number 15 is out yeah
Yeah.
Br, I really can't, oh, top left, 11.
That's probably me, yeah.
It's the ears.
Top left.
Yeah, that's me, top left.
But, yeah, a lot of offensive linemen, when they're in the league,
eating is like a full-time job form, especially in training camp.
When you're burning all those calories, you've just got to force yourself smoothings, all that stuff.
I think I said it's too on this part, but during training camp, you'll lose so much weight day-to-day until they
monitor your weight loss. And so there was dues and usually the alignment because when you lose
weight, you lose water weight the fastest, right? And so there were guys who would lose 20 pounds
in one, in one practice session. Easy. And like, and so they had to like monitor that.
Chocolate milk instead of water. For recovery, yeah. Yeah. I got to the point where some of my
teammates that I'm still in contact with were eclipsing. So they were like 300 pounds and I
I was playing at like 2.30, but now we're eclipsing.
And that was scary.
So my line, my dude, my center I play with for the majority of my career, Chris Myers.
He's probably like 240 right now.
Damn.
Yeah.
And you step on the skill.
I'm probably like, like, $2.30 something.
Yeah.
I'm probably like $2.37 right now.
Joe Thomas lost a lot of weight.
He went Keto.
You always post videos of him grilling steaks.
That's like the only thing is.
I will say, though, when you, it's like a sigh of relief, not worrying of.
about what you have to put in your body and it's just like you get to eat whatever you want
and get a joy you do you know you start to balloon a little bit but there's not much of a
better feeling that I've had as a human when you're exercising on a regular basis and you're eating
what you're supposed to your bowel movements are are really clean and really smooth like I know
it's nasty but it's real that's really part of like understanding your diet is how your bowel movements
are so you pay attention to that but like when everything's functioning right the mental clarity
you have the motivation you have the ambition all of that is just everything spikes you feel good
about yourself yeah because you're doing things right that's and you get more confidence but that's a
no that's addition to not only you feel good about yourself you just feel good everything's
functioning how it's supposed to be functioned so you're sharper mind-wise you have more energy which is
wild like you have more like everything's clicking you're just a happier for my experience you know
so you just like a happier and you can take it to the stream like that's why I was like balance is
everything like them work out like don't work out four times a day and shit like if you're not
training for nothing but like when you doing what you're supposed to do it's a good that's that's the
best you mm-hmm it's the best you i was reading this article about uh alcohol leaky gut and
probiotics and how alcohol sort of messes with your digestive system and kills a lot of probiotics
in that uh a lot of uh people who like get moody after drinking alcohol or like get really bad
hangovers and a lot of mental side effects of hangovers, anxiety or whatnot. They found a
huge reduction in that after introducing probiotics daily to maintain their gut health and just
start doing fixing some leaky gut type stuff. And it like impacted their mental health. So then
I started taking a bunch of probiotics. After you read the one article? Yeah. I was just like,
oh, fuck it. I'll order it. Lactopacillus rutieri. Highly recommend. And mood and like, I was more
focused, I felt. May have been placebo, but it's been a couple weeks, uh, months actually.
And just like way more locked in, way better mood, way better workouts. No, when I first started
dealing my anxiety attacks, I thought they were heart issues. I think I talked about it briefly
on this podcast, but I thought they were heart issues because they're kind of indistinguishable.
But what I found out was when I saw, when I saw a heart specialist, he was like, I think
you have leaky gut. And so he started giving me this stuff that was like coding and like that
shit helped immediately. And so he would have me take it after I ate.
and like coated my stomach because like they there's a lot of actual interesting science on like
the connection between the brain and the gut yeah they say it's your second brain it's actually
really interesting i don't want to spout off the top because i don't know about heart but it's a
lot of interesting science that that links those two yeah and um and i remember when i first like when
i first started like that was a big issue of mine was my gut i might have to get on those probiotics
i don't when i get hung over i probably that's a good i rarely get a headache rarely get a stomach
egg, but I get tremendous anxiety. Yeah. If I'm hungover, like almost crippling sometimes.
So let me get on that probiotics. Yeah. Sometimes Chick-fil-A, remember I was saying that made my
heartbeat, I think that was a little leaky gut related. And like, look, pounding like 30 beers a weekend,
four years of college, all that wheat, all that gluten, definitely didn't do many favors.
Rookie numbers. 30 beers a weekend, Billy, really? Let's just keep it there for. I'm not your
doctor. You don't have to lie to me.
Yo, that shit be making me think I'm an alcoholic when you go to the doctor.
They're like, how many drinks do you have a week?
It's like one to two.
Yeah.
Who has one to two drinks?
Like, do people drink like that?
Yeah, I have one beer to celebrate Friday evening.
Freaking Mormons.
Like, who's drinking like, you?
Oh, wait. I have half a glass of wine during church.
That might not be real wine.
Do we count that?
Put me down as one and a half, doc.
Yeah, that's crazy.
And like the, like, the extreme is like three to four.
Yeah.
Three to four is like the high end of when they think.
you should cut off and I'm like bro this well because I think that's crazy I think doctors
know people lie to them about that stuff so they do the math in their head if you say I have four
drinks a weekend or occasionally four drinks a night they'll be like well that really means 10
in their own mind now if somebody comes in as completely honest with the doctor if you took a
21 year old that's at some big state school likes to party and they go in they're like yeah
I probably drink about 60 beers a week you think you think the doctor would do that math in their
head and be like you're going to drink you're going to die tomorrow beers a week or do you think
to be like well thank god this person isn't lying to me everybody else lies to me i don't know man
because i know i've known some like housewives though some regular like just women just doing
a shit they'll drink like a bottle of wine a day yeah you know what i'm saying like that's what
four drinks right there yeah so it's like how how can i answer this question with any kind of
seriousness yeah well it also some people are just built different you know what I'm saying
I miss fax, I'm definitely different.
Yeah, yeah, where it's like, like, it affects people different.
Like, some people just don't like to drink.
It doesn't affect them.
It, like, affects everyone differently.
And then there's some people who are like, I just had a six-pack and I'm, you know, chilling.
I think there's a directly inverse relation between, if you ask a guy.
I'll be justifying alcoholism right now.
I may.
I'll justify our drinking.
We're not that bad, though.
I, what, a couple DUIs and I'm a bad guy now.
If it's totally light beer, if you ask.
You can't black out on light beer.
A doctor asking a guy
How many beers do you drink a week
Is the exact inverse relationship, I think
As opposed to a guy asking a friend of his
Like, what's your number for how many women you've had sent to?
The body counts.
Yeah, you got to, in one circumstance, you multiply by three
Another you divide by three.
But that's the opposite if it's a guy asking his girlfriend.
Then you got to multiply that ship by three.
Yeah.
So she's lying.
She's lying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, maybe not three, but a lot of women, they'll be like, well, that guy doesn't really count.
I don't, you know, I've met him one time.
Yeah.
I'm not, whoa, whoa, Matt dog.
Bad dog with a fast, yeah.
No, I don't do that.
But yeah, that was a very fast.
It was so special.
Yep, they don't count.
It's only intimacy if you actually, like, had a connection with them.
No.
Yeah.
No, I'm just saying girls do that where they're like, oh, he doesn't count.
He was like a bad hookup.
Or he doesn't count.
Or if it's like, well, that, that definitely counts.
I cheated on my boyfriend with this guy.
So the guy that I cheated with that, I'm not counting that because I never told my boyfriend that I cheated on her.
That I can.
Hold on.
Give me this psychology if it doesn't count because it was a bad hookup.
Like, if it's body count, we count.
Well, first of all, I'm a child.
I do not suggest asking your partner the body count.
No.
It does nothing for you.
It only leads to a horrible conversation.
This is just friends talking about body counts.
We're just friends.
All right.
I think women do this thing.
where like if you don't feel like it was a satisfactory experience oh wow then it might be
multiplied by three so hypothetically you so if he didn't do his job he don't count well it's like
i'm not saying that i do any of this i'm reading between the lines here if if if if me if you go home
with a guy that's why i like the women representation on the podcast and these conversations need to be
hit and things start and then things end you know 45 seconds
later because maybe he's had a lot to drink or never start or never start if it's attempted
very specific mattie if it's a lot of specificity going on if it starts and 30 seconds later you're
like well this isn't going to work okay that doesn't count that that probably shouldn't count yeah
that probably shouldn't maybe why why would that count i mean i i don't really care about like
whether or not it counts or not like aryan said like that's a that's not a that's not a good
conversation to have you don't need to it also it's also none of your business it's
Absolutely none of your business.
It also doesn't count an hour later when it just doesn't work out.
I didn't say anything like that.
Never mind.
Okay.
No,
what does that mean?
Given what you were defending before the show started.
I'm really curious as to what you mean, bro.
No,
like you have too much of drink.
You're just like,
ah,
it's not happened tonight.
That's what you're saying literally what you said.
Well,
you're saying 45 seconds.
Well,
sometimes it's clear.
Sometimes it's an hour.
But if you've been doing it for an hour,
that sucks.
You revving that engine for an hour.
He just can't get it done
That it doesn't count
That's another big misconception
I think a lot of people have
Is like guys grow up
And they're like, yeah, I can go all night
It's like, have you ever talked to a woman before
About like whether or not
She wants to be having sex with you for five hours?
I do respect the cats though
With a quick reload time
Because that's not something in my wheelhouse
Like you got to give me like 30
That's still pretty impressive
30 minutes is impressive
Really?
Well, you know
Some people are built there
I do what I do
But no, I know dudes who can just, right after.
Keep going.
I'm like, what?
Get off me.
Yeah.
To the dude?
To the dude?
No, I'm talking about like when I'm finished.
Oh, okay.
Gotcha.
Yeah, I'm tripping.
Yeah, I tripping.
Yeah.
All right, that's sex ed.
Get off of me, guy.
Big T, what do you think?
Let's just cut that whole section.
What do you think about body counts, Big T?
I don't think anything.
I shouldn't have said that.
We let's cut that whole conversation.
No.
I'd like to know Aryan's opinion on the dog conversation there.
So don't clip any of this because we have an episode of part of my take coming out on Thursday.
Or sorry, on Friday with Mark Titus.
And we got lengthy into whether or not somebody can become a dog, what type of dog?
If somebody, if it's easier to become a dog after you're already like a wolf and get toned down to being a dog, it's a good conversation.
I mean, it sounds stupid as fuck.
The difference from the NFL and the NBA is that everyone in the NFL,
except maybe kickers and quarterbacks has that.
No, no, I don't think that's true.
I was going to ask Aaron.
Are there guys in the NFL that have gone from not being a dog,
not having a dog in them, to then becoming a dog?
Or is it something that you already have to have?
I think it's like a hierarchy.
So it's like when you, like, because there's dudes who was in college
who like was dogs, had it.
but then they get around like some real dogs
and they kind of like, you know,
they tuck their tails a little bit.
Yeah.
I've seen that many times.
And so I think it's something,
and you can either rise to that occasion
or, you know, tuck your tail.
And I think it's something that's like,
I've actually always, is it nature and nurture?
That's basically the conversation y'all that haven't.
And I think it's just in you, man.
I think you just got it or you don't.
Yeah.
I think you can, um,
I think you can exist in the circle if you're not like, I hate to use the alpha shit because it's kind of corny.
But if you're not like one of the top dogs, I hate that too.
But like if you're not in a higher part of the hierarchy, you can exist in that arena.
But when you around them, you know you're not one of them.
Aaron, you actually were having this conversation with Koli and the exact term you use was there's dogs and there's wolves.
Yeah.
That's what you were saying.
Yeah.
Well, that was more so like, yeah, but in a different context.
but yeah yeah like there's top dogs I do think there's some players in the NFL that are just
really good at football and and don't they don't love it they might not have that mean streak in
them yeah and so they might be good for a little bit but it's not going to be a 10 year career
that they have well I mean even I think that doesn't even necessarily have anything to do like
you could I think there's Hall of Famers that I didn't really like doggy like they're just
really nice just nice but like it's just it's like a different mentality
Like, I don't know, like when you line up and you're really ready to die for this shit, that type of shit, it's different.
See, I think Arian, if you just talk to him, you'd be like, oh, he might not have that dog in me.
He might not love football enough to have a dog, but then you watch and play and you're like, Aaron certified dog.
But I'm different, like, how I am here.
I'm an entirely even human on a football field.
Like, ask all my teammates.
Would I like you when you're in football mode?
If you're on my team, yeah, you love me.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
If I was a kicker.
Like I would say it would be hard, you'd be hard pressed to find like an ex-teamate of mine that didn't like me as far as just a human being as well as like a football player.
Like if we didn't have any like funk off the field, you know what I'm saying?
But if it was just like, if we was, I'm, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, there was just one time I got miced up and I was never miced up again.
We was playing San Francisco and, uh, uh, I just lost me.
my shit because they were talking shit
to me. It was when that whole NCAA came out thing
that school documentary came out
and I said I took money and like
half of the players were like
good for you speaking up.
The other half was like why you snitching
like that type of shit right? Even though I didn't snitch on
anybody. And there was a dude
I think it was a corner who was talking shit
was like you snitched. I lost
my shit. But like it's that mentality
that maybe I was like we just whatever
after this. We take these pads
whatever like that's where I go. That's where I go.
like when I'm playing ball
like that's where I go like what's happening
yeah and they never miced you up after that
again it was it was bad
I was like talking I was talking about that man
fan it was whatever it was whatever it was bad
I would love to see what gets cut
from the mic'd ups
I would love to see that
because like when I talk shit I talk shit
that's like that is the treasure trove
that the NFL has right now
yeah they probably got a lot of like
if there I bet you if there's a player's strike
or a CBA doesn't get agreed to
that would be interesting
Like, one fall, if there's no games, the NFL could just be like, we're going to release the behind-the-scenes miced-up comments.
That would be interesting.
They should just make it a podcast and imagine listening to that while working out just like people talking shit.
Like that would get me high.
It would be bad.
And you have to guess who said it because you're not actually seeing the players' basis.
Yeah.
Because if they put it, because there would be a lot of like, there's some shit talking to go over.
What about guys that know that they're miced up?
I remember when JJ got into the league and when he first started dominating, he, uh,
There was one time he was miced up.
I think he was going against Ray Rice.
And he hits him and he goes,
I've eaten burritos that are bigger than you, bro.
And it's like, okay, JJ had that one lined up
because he knew that he was miced up that game.
There's some players that know.
He's just writing bits before the game.
He was like, who's on the other team?
You know what?
I would like to offer our services to any NFL player
that might be listening.
If you know you're going to be miced up
and you feel unprepared going to the game,
we'll give you some lines to use in the game.
some for you. Yeah. I got some for you. I would have loved to say. I want to get, can you request
you're miced up? Because I feel like that's, that's players. They're doing it to protect the
players, right? So can you say, like, I hereby agree for my entire miced up to be released,
or do you want to keep that? I would want to see it first. Yeah. Because I was, I was, I was funky
with it. Problematic. Yeah, it was very problematic. I was like, uh, I, I, I love the whoop,
no free ads, but like, I love tracking the whoop for my workouts. And doing what?
The whoop, my whoop band?
I don't, it tracks.
It tracks your heart rate, like, how much strain you put in something.
I just, I love tracking my whoop.
I was like, what the fuck you talking about?
It gives you a lot of stats.
It gives you a lot of stats.
In games where, like, it gets more intense and, like, it's a very competitive game,
a lot of trash talking.
My whoop scores are higher because my heart rate is higher,
and I can see that I'm going harder in those games, and you get a better workout.
so you're saying talk more shit
yeah it's more help you get you going
yeah that makes sense
a little more into it
like you don't have that quit because you're like
you're insecure about what someone else has said
or like that type of deficit
where you're like trying to go for it
that's the one thing
I don't like about golf
it's so fucking nice
like it's just too nice man
you know I mean like
I don't know
could you just imagine
if Tiger Woods
Woods and Phil Mickelson and like Phil Mixson hits a shot and Tiger walks his ball after
he even says that shit ass and he's getting it would create so much more interest in the game
I think yeah the just the guys that run golf tournaments and like the PGA they would be like
this is unacceptable yeah it's like it's just so high brows that's not classy like bitch
I also think that a lot of golf fans that are that are currently fans of the game would hate that
it would attract a new audience but but there would definitely be they would lose a lot of their
audience, I think.
I'm okay with it.
But see, that's where I don't know if they'd, I don't know if they'd lose the audience
in the way that you, they would lose the audience in like, you know, when the NFL
players start taking the knee.
Those fringe guys.
Yeah.
But like, you're still going to watch this sport.
You might also see old guys that say that they hate that shit and then they watch it.
And then they're like, I hate this, but I'm going to watch more of it.
That, the Floyd may be the effect where it's like, you're watching to see them lose.
And because not everybody's going to talk shit like that.
There's going to be a lot of people who are like, I don't like it for the game, and then those guys get into it with it.
It will cause like more rivalries and more like interest in the sport.
I also think with golfers, so much of it is a mental game with themselves.
Yeah.
That they have a tendency to not talk shit because the game of golf humbles people.
Even if you're the best player in the world, you can go out there and just suck shit for a day.
And so you're playing this mental game against yourself and you almost, you talk more shit to yourself if you watch it.
Golfers talk way more shit to themselves than they ever would to a playing partner.
Like Justin was Justin Thomas at the PGA Championship.
I think he called himself like a P-word.
Tiger used to talk so much.
Oh, yeah.
Come on, what's he?
I mean, he brought out of it.
Tiger.
He took out of tampon.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
But they homies, though.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Imagine doing that.
That's not the homie.
That's just guys being dudes.
And people got so mad at Tiger.
the old golf fans are like well that it was partially old golf fans and also uh people online
that don't actually watch sports or golf that are like this is very disrespectful to women to be handing
you a tampon yeah i get it is it is implying that you're a female and then that's implying that
you're weak i understand that aspect but also at the time take at the time i think that that if
that's the most offensive uh misogynistic thing that tiger
Woods is doing, we should applaud him for the progress that he's made over the years.
I got a couple of things.
I don't think Tiger's a bad dude.
I think he's like a horny dude.
I don't think he was like harassing females.
He's just horny.
Yeah.
And so he's just like, but I don't know, man.
Like as a woman, as a women, you know what I mean?
Maybe y'all can tell me this.
Is it offensive to be like you're driving the ball like a woman if men are talking
shit to each other?
with the with the with the with the with the with the the the notion in the bag of
head that on average men drive it farther than women right is that offensive that's
just like a fact I agree I just want to get to take on it because like that's that's what
the tampon implies like oh you you hit like a woman yeah like well I'm I'm I'm I'm
I'm here for the conversation I get the like biological part mm-hmm it's still like
offensive you're not offensive why though no I like it's like it's
It's like annoying, but like, it's like, oh, you throw like a girl sort of thing.
Personally, I don't, like, it's fine.
Yeah, it's fine.
I get it.
I say it, too.
I think it's fair to say that it is demeaning to women.
Yeah.
But at the same time, at the same time, it's in the grand scope of things that Tiger could be doing to women, it's relatively harmless.
You know?
If we look at the history.
Yeah.
At least he's not, you know, cheating on his wife and getting his car window smashed in.
Also, it's in, like, good fun.
Like, it was very funny that he did that.
So it's like, just to have a sense of humor.
That's, I think you got to be realistic about yourself.
That's why, so, like, when I was playing, especially like at UT, right?
Like, I was known, like, people would be like, oh, he fumbles a lot, right?
Like, even though, like, relatively speaking, I didn't carry the ball like a little.
Yeah, relatively speaking, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't fumble.
So, but, like, when people, like, oh, you fumble.
It didn't like, I get the critique.
You know what I understand?
Like, I understand it, but it's not going to offend me.
You know what I'm saying?
Especially because I know I don't like that.
So it's like, I don't know.
I get the whole, I don't know, women,
the whole women's sports thing
is an interesting conversation in general.
But like shit like that, that's funny.
We're going to get offended on treatment of women drivers.
Maybe we should look at Liv and the Saudi Arabian government.
I think that might be the first.
Yeah.
Well, no, they are allowed to drive now.
They are allowed to drive now.
Are they really?
Yeah, Saudi Arabia's made insane amounts of progress.
So the Livtor is a net positive.
They allow women to drive cars now in Saudi Arabia.
I, uh, when I was growing up, I had a friend, I had a friend that, that his dad worked for an oil company and they had to go live in Saudi Arabia for, I think, three or four years. And his wife was just like, well, I guess I just can't drive for three years. You have to like follow all those rules. That's wild. Yeah. What is, what's the genesis of that? Because I understand, I'm not saying I agree with it, but the, uh, the, uh, the traditional dress, whether it's a,
burqa or it's just covering yourself in hijab.
It's modesty.
It's centered around modesty.
And I think that that's also subjugation of women, too, where it's saying, I think
a lot of men are, like, so insecure, no one's allowed to look at their wives.
Well, I think it was the opposite, the origins of my understanding.
And I could be wrong.
But my understanding of it, it was more so, like, you revealing yourself protects you
from other men who are, like, creepy.
Got it.
So it's, like, more like, just protect yourself and, and, and, and, and,
respect the family that you've built or whatever the case may be that you have.
I'm not saying I agree with I'm just saying the origins of it from my understanding.
And that's more of protection.
That's how they would justify it.
And at the root of that, you could say, well, maybe just teach men not to be absolute creeps when you see a woman's face.
Hold them in an accountable.
Are you fucking crazy?
Yeah.
But I guess I can't answer my question because the next train of thought was going to be, what does women driving?
Like, it's inappropriate to see a woman in a car.
But that's more just like control.
What of the, if a woman can't drive for yourself?
It's a good question.
Let's ask Andrew Tate.
Remember that when he's like,
they should not let women drive because I've been in 20 car accidents.
And almost every time it's been with a woman,
how unsafe are these women?
That was very funny.
I remember that.
That would be interesting though to see the crash rates,
to see if like if it's higher or lower.
Well, so the insurance company studies.
If you want to get to the bottom of anything in America, statistically, you can look at the way that corporations react to things.
Okay.
And insurance premiums tend to be lower for women drivers than they are for men drivers.
And it's because they're more cautious.
Yeah, they're probably safer drivers, yeah.
Yeah.
Or they just don't have that dog in them on the road.
Testosterone.
They're trying to get over like, like we're trying to get over.
They're not built like that.
Well, they're not like speed racing.
Yeah.
Women are such poissies.
They wear seatbelts.
They'll try to raise each other.
Yeah.
I've been guilty of that.
I read a story yesterday, and I'm curious to get your guys' reaction on this.
There was a fundraising auction that Speaker McCarthy did in Congress.
Big T. Did you see this?
I have not.
Okay.
So he was auctioning off stuff, and people could bid on it.
The money went to charity.
He auctioned off his chapstick.
He auctioned off his used chapsych.
Chapstick.
What the fuck?
Guess how much the winning bid was?
And now I'm saying like it's other Congress people that are bidding on this.
And I think their staffers were allowed to bid too.
And it's for charity?
For charity, yeah.
And people are okay.
What would you guess that the winning bid would be?
$800.
That's crazy.
I was almost like five, maybe two to $500.
Billy?
Wasn't it like, I saw it, I would guess.
Okay.
I just searched and found it.
Mad Dog, do you have a guess?
it was a hundred thousand dollars yeah and guess who bought it not Santos
Marjorie Taylor Green bought it for a hundred thousand dollars
what Jesus yeah is that like a tax write off yeah is it yeah if you if you buy if
you buy a piece of chapstick for a hundred thousand dollars you can write that
a charity charity yeah if you're basically what you're doing yeah okay it's
tax stick there but still that makes sense they couldn't find any other
things to auction like who used the chapstick that's that a real story it's a real story it's a real story it's a
it's a real story i'm looking at picture right now of marjorie taylor green holding the chapstick and
smiling after she won it oh hold on who uses do they have any kind of deal with the brand
that he's old i'm sure it's not woke chapstick of course not why would they oh they got
conservative chapstick well i'm i'm sure that if it had been a problematic chapstick she would not
have bid that much on it 100k for chapstick she got money good good for charity what if she's
trying to clone the dude yeah get his DNA out the chapstick clone McCarthy who is McCarthy he's
speaker speaker the house he's is he another republican republican from california yeah um all right
billy what are you beat off about this week i'm beat off because ai uh made the stock market crash a
bit and fooled a bunch of people. So there was a picture that was going viral that the only
mainstream news source, by the way, I'm not saying this is the mainstream news force, but like
confirmed news source that tweeted it was RT, but it was an AI picture of an explosion occurring
near the Pentagon. And it was getting shared everywhere and caused an actual dip in the stop
market. So it was an AI generated image. It wasn't even the Pentagon. In the picture. No, that
that building was definitely not.
I saw that picture.
That's definitely not the Pentagon.
But it just,
I don't know who did it,
who surfaced it.
That's not AI.
AI created it, but then...
AID didn't create the spike.
Humans, right, right.
But that's what I'm saying.
It's like,
somebody asked an AI image generator,
show a picture of a fire next to the Pentagon,
and it put out this picture of what looked to be like the aftermath of an explosion
next to an office building that if you don't know what the Pentagon looks like,
I guess you could think it that it was.
And so it was put out and a lot of people retweeted it jumped all over it.
And then, yeah, the stock market panicked.
I think that's the first time we've seen someone think something was AI and then actually having real world consequences.
Like this is this might happen soon with a deep fake of some sort, something convincing.
It might actually impact something serious.
Like what happens if a riot starts because of a politician deep fake and like there's actual.
like manipulation of the masses
using super good fakes
like that's a problem
I think this is one of the first times
we're actually seeing a real work consequence to it happening
I know they're saying 500 million
which was the dip that it caused in the stock market
is like a drop in the bucket compared to the whole
fund or whatever the S&P
but still it's a real world consequence
it causes a $500 million dip
and like if anything now people are going to see this and probably try to manipulate the stock market by putting out more of these images and seeing how they would affect well I don't understand how did the image affect like explain to because I mean I'm not well versed on a stock market I know instability
affects the markets true so if it looks like there's some sort of attack going on so what I'm saying is I know there was an image right yeah are you guys saying the image was generated specific
to cause
ruckus in the market
we don't know okay
it probably was
and and it was shared
by uh you said a major who
what is our t what is that
r t is it's like yeah it's russia
yeah it's it's russia and they tweeted it
but because they were
i mean they're not considered i'm not saying they're a good news source
i'm not saying but that was the only account
that had a blue checkmark that was confirmed also a
bloomberg uh fake bloomberg blue checkmark account tweeted
two, which caused a lot of the ruckus.
That's your pops, man.
Get on your pops.
Elon.
Daddy Elon, man, get on him.
So Elon, later on today, he's doing a Twitter space with Tanya Ron, Ron DeSantis.
Okay.
To announce his bid for president of the United States.
So I guess it's official.
We have debate season to look forward to between Trump and Ron.
Oh, that'll be fine.
Over under on the term woke being.
Yeah, I think Trump's just going to call him gay.
He's going to go, stop.
He's going to be like, this guy's gay.
And then Ron is going to be like, oh, that'll be it.
So that's actually interesting.
So he is running.
Yeah, he's officially running as of today.
I just don't see if, if you can have Trump, why are you going to diet Trump isn't going to beat Trump in terms of Republican voters.
I think Republicans who have sense with them understand the term.
oil that Trump causes, they are more so inclined to say, I like the diet Trump because he's
less risky.
Like he's not going to fly off the handle.
He's going to do probably worse policy-wise, or good for them anyway, but like the policies
are probably going to be more intense with dissentice, but they just don't like the circus
around Trump from the Republicans that I've seen.
But here's the thing.
In the debates, if there's one thing that Trump is great at, it is thoroughly.
emasculating his competition on stage, no matter what debate it is.
It's going to be, I'm going to watch, I ain't going to watch. Like, the way that he,
he talked to Biden, even in the presidential debates, hilarious.
Hilarious. He's going to do that to Ron. And then Ron is going to look very weak.
And Ron's going to fly off the handle. He's not going to be able to handle himself. And then,
I'm interested how he's going to react. And then, uh, Republican voters, I think, who would support
Ron would see him getting emasculated and be like, I don't know if I can support this guy.
Trump is, he's the one.
If Trump was smart, he would pin down.
He literally attended Yale University, played baseball there just like the Bush's.
If anyone were to get tapped to a secret society, like Skull and Crossbones, which John Kerry was a part of, George Bush was a part of, you know, Paul Giamatti was a part.
I don't even know.
That's just another member.
We're going to get it to it later.
Aluminati coming up.
You could easily paint him as deep state and he's just doing these things to get some Trump voters.
but he's really just the establishment.
You could easily, like, get that into the public's hand
and, like, even on stage, just, like, pointed out.
Yeah.
That would actually think the best way to attack DeSantis from Trump's standpoint.
I'm sure he's going to have some even more wild shit than that.
Like, you remember when he said Ted Cruz's dad killed Kennedy?
Like, saying this guy's-in-bones is child's play to Trump.
He would throw that.
He'd be like, that would make me look weak for just, like, skull and bone.
So I'm complimenting the guy.
He went to Yale.
what Ron should do
he'd be like
yeah
Yale's a better school
than
shit
Trump University
to U-P
Trump University
he went to Wharton
too right
but the thing is
he got in too late
where I don't think
he made any secret societies
yeah
because he went to another school
for the first two years
I am interested to see
how Ron going to respond
to Trump's
because like he's just
relentless with it though
yeah
but also the other dynamic
is he placed by different rules
too facts
and he's also not on Twitter
anymore
Not a lot of people are on truth.
They check truth for Trump.
Yeah.
But nobody just, I wonder, I mean, maybe, have you been on truth?
I've not.
Have you, Bigtie?
No.
Because, like, are people talking sports on truth?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, I don't know.
Did you see Jimmy Butler go for, you know what?
I might have to sign up for truth social and then just get sports takes from there.
I'm pretty sure there's just a Twitter account that tweets Trump's truths.
It is, yeah.
Sure.
It is.
I'm going to, you know what?
I'm going to sign up for truth social right now just to get sports takes.
I've been told to go on telegram to get.
viral videos before everybody else
but I don't want to dip my toe in there
I thought that was like a
like it's like a WhatsApp
yeah but apparently like
there's a huge rabbit hole in there and I just don't even
to subject myself. Is it a social media site?
Yeah I think no
it's a messaging that's what I thought people
send things in there that like
they can't post other places so Billy wants
the real shit. What is it like
do they send you? I don't understand it's like you can have
there's probably a feed there's
probably like a massive group with
400,000 people in it
where they send these crazy videos
that like are too hardcore
just a four chance just one of the chans
yeah are you on
any of the chans no
Reddit
it's kind of chan a little bit
yeah I don't see the chans
I just think because a lot of that's just like garbage
yeah
yeah like you have to sift through so much
garbage actually get to the good stuff
it's the good stuff i don't know like people i don't know like you can find that like
the good stuff gets to red it that's that's what you've surmised the good fortune stuff gets to
red it yeah okay like uh like for example the leak the leak uh that that u s air force a u.s national
air guard uh leaked that was on discord got to red it i mean discord i mean discord
4chan and then Reddit.
So I had a question for you.
Do you have like a methodology,
like a filter system in which you consume
internet content?
Yes.
Break it down for me.
Bring it down for me.
I see something.
Okay.
I say something.
Step one.
No.
I mean, I do.
There are a lot of far out there things that I read
that I just gets into like causes like it causes a conundrum if you bring it up on the podcast
it's like what it's like that's fake I'm genuinely curious this is not like a guy I'm genuinely
curious as to your filter system or the methodology in which you assess like any kind of statement
fact news story as true or not true like do you have like a methodology in which it goes through
like the billy all right this is how I will the billy the billy filter is actually finds the stuff
that's most alarming and like makes the best reaction to say through the mic the william system
is much different okay take me take me through that one that one is like actually research it
actually like before you put it out are you saying you create a character for a podcast well i think
it's a it's podcasting is different than real life because people like are listening for different
reasons that's true so like me bringing up conier west having a body double because he looks short
or like I don't actually believe Kanye West is like replaced right now.
I think he's actually just getting help.
And that's why he's not alarmist.
But it like adds to the podcast that this is a theory instead of just being like he's
actually taking his meds and he's like he's married and, you know, he's happy and with his kids.
Okay.
That's good to know that you're not really like this.
Did you sign up?
I'm sign up right now.
I had to give him my phone number.
what's your what's your what's your handle i haven't chosen it yet oh this one that they suggested
was uh liberty for all that's not taken no it's not pf truth commenter oh i like that pf how about
just pf truth yeah pf truth so if you're on truth social fine pf truth oh fuck you follow i want
to make a truth now i'm shocked that you don't have a truth i don't i might need to go see if big
truth is taken.
A big truth.
I'm going for Billy Truthball.
Billy Truthball.
Look, Erica says that we need to expand to different platforms.
Twitter, Instagram.
Should we have a microdosing truth social?
Yes.
That shit will be funny.
Macro truth.
Macro truth.
Put it on the top of link for your die.
Dot US, which is still functional, by the way.
You can go there and get all the macrodocusing content.
What is?
Link free or die.
Dot US.
You don't remember that?
I own.
We bought that domain.
Renewing it.
The show's on there.
Like if you go type it in right now, that'll take you to our page.
Link free or die.
Dot us.
Okay.
For that extra dose of freedom.
I'm searching for Jimmy Butler.
Oh, man.
It might get weird on there.
Let's see what they say about Jimmy Butler.
I bet they love Jimmy Butler on truth.
Big country music.
guy.
Oh, yeah.
Jimmy Butler of the Miami Heat is the son of Michael Jeffrey Jordan.
That, I told him about this the other night.
So Big T. took me to Wogies, and it's Wogies.
Sounds cool.
Big T. took me to Wogies.
He's like, have you heard the rumor that Jimmy Butler is Michael Jordan's son?
I have not.
And I was like, what?
Until truth.
And so he gave me the rundown.
I saw a little video on it.
It's funny.
He's wild.
I don't know that I believe it, but it's interesting.
Go ahead.
It is a little possibly plausible.
Okay.
Do you agree?
The one thing that doesn't make any sense to me is if I have a son by Michael Jordan,
I'm talking if he's not paying.
And the whole premise to the video that you sent me was that she disowned Jimmy Butler
after the payments, the child support payment, stopped from.
on Michael Jordan. And I'm like, that just doesn't happen because then you'd have to give up your
lifestyle. So if that's the case, she would have went the legal route and said, no, you're going
to give me the child support payments rather than, and we would have heard about it in court,
rather than her saying, well, the child support payment stop, I don't have anything to do with
that. That doesn't make any sense to me. Listen, I'm not saying I believe it. I'm just saying
I think it's plausible. They look similar. They look similar. They look.
look kind of similar.
There were a couple pictures that they showed side by side where I'm like, it's possible.
I also don't know what his mom looks like, so I didn't have anything to juxtapose it with.
And he's a fucking killer.
That's true.
World class basketball player, obviously.
He does have the dog.
Michael joins his father.
Then the dog is Connecticut.
Well, no, because his sons ain't really like that.
His known sons that we know ain't really like that on a basketball court, which is wild.
Who was the one that played like Wyoming?
he was trash i thought it was Cincinnati
wasn't it florida
central florida
i thought i thought there was only one
that was really bawling like that and he played for Cincinnati
it was Jeffrey right i think so
well they probably pampered dogs
that's different than
pampered
than abandoned got you
their their dog wasn't
the dog wasn't allowed to run
you need the dogs
that being like white women bags
oh marcus
was he a used to
He was at Cincinnati.
Oh, so there's Marcus and Jeffrey.
Jeffrey played at Illinois and UCF.
I thought somebody played at Wyoming.
I swore somebody to play Cincinnati.
Hang on, I'm looking at Marcus.
Well, the C, UC, I think.
I thought it were.
So wait, wait, big T.
Marcus also played at UCF.
In this theory, does Jimmy Butler know that he is Michael Jordan's son?
I don't know.
He doesn't know who his dad is.
Okay.
and that and there were rumors in the 90s that Michael Jordan had a son that he like
disassociated from and didn't like really know about there were rumors so I don't think
Jimmy Butler looks anything like LeBron Jane or like Michael Jordan I think there's a couple
pictures where they look kind of similar there's a couple of I'm not saying he's like a
spitting image of it yeah it's not it's nothing that strikes me as like okay that's it
but when they do the half face of each they look kind of similar
Hmm.
It's just, it's an interesting theory.
I'm on board for it.
I'm already, I got so much truth out of truth social already.
I don't love that it's on truth.
I've seen on Twitter and Reddit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I thought, this is a pretty mainstream conspiracy, if you want to call it.
I need to get back into the conspiracies here because I was not aware of that.
Yeah, I'm also seeing, there's pictures of Brani.
He's got the 999 tattoo behind his ear.
Truth social is all over that.
Satanist.
occultism 666 upside down
These are the sports takes on truth right now
There are some hot
Give us some more
Mostly just LeBron takes really
Oh they hate him
A lot of La China
La Chiana
La Chana
A lot of that
LeBron said
I took Pilates classes
Yoga classes
Swimming at auditoriums back home
I can't tell you exactly where it's at
It's a secret place
We hold a secret society over there
We don't tell too many people
So now they're saying
That LeBron is in the Freemasons
We're going to get into that later
Yeah, there's a lot of LeBron did that I'm very curious as to what he's doing.
Am I giving my number?
Do you think he's retired?
No, no, I was talking about, like, this hand gesture he does.
Like, I don't understand what he's doing.
Like, I would like to know.
Like, I would like to ask him.
Oh, like the, like the Jay.
No, he does that and then he does, like, this whole, like, thing.
Like, I know that's the rock.
I know that's the rock.
But he's, like, hands in a diamond.
And he does, like, I'll find a video and we'll pose it.
But like, I saw it.
It's like, you know, I see a lot of them, Jay-Z's the devil and beyond.
I see all that shit.
And I seen a LeBron one one time and I was like, what is that, though?
Like, I don't think he's, no, I don't think there is in a little about any.
We'll get into that.
But I found another good truth.
Okay.
Shoot it.
Hunter Biden laptop emails show LeBron James and Magic Johnson caught colluding.
Okay.
That is two worlds I never thought we're going to collide.
I love it.
And then I love it.
And then the reply, LeBron is.
is a, is treason and a traitor?
Magic Johnson is a treason and a traitor.
What is the punishment for treason?
And then thinky face.
Talk about killing.
Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely killing him about that.
So, wait, so what, what is magic, why don't they like Magic Johnson?
They're caught colluding with the CCP.
Now, you don't, you don't have to look at Hunter Biden's laptop to get evidence of LeBron James doing business with China.
Yeah.
That's pretty, it's pretty open that every player that makes a deal with Nike or,
most shoe companies they've got money coming in for china also just the nba in general they make a
shitload of money off appealing to a chinese audience and they've shown in the past that they will
actually change their content and they'll bend over backwards to appease china so that their games
can get played there those are all valid criticisms but what is what is hunter how did they manage to insert
hunter into this well hunter's been getting payments from china i thought it was fucking you guys
So hard to keep up with all this.
So he's just getting mad.
Basically, he's like if you want access to Joe Biden
influence on his foreign policy,
just get his cracket son and have an investigation on this?
Yeah.
And what came of it?
Bad stuff.
I'm listening.
What's more likely, Billy?
And I don't know the answer to this.
I didn't look at that.
That maybe Hunter Biden is as a crackhead,
he's trying to get money to support his crack habit.
Or do you think he's operating like a legitimate business
where he's got quick books and he's like okay well she gave me all this money
and so I need to make sure to take exactly my 10% out I'll put that on my W2 at the end of the
year or my 1099 and then I'll give the rest of the money to the big guy and then I'll just use
that 10% on my crack of all the crack heads you know what would be the most likely explanation
for that I'd say probably that he's spending it on crack well I think he has he's
getting so much that cracks only about 5%.
Wait, time about, is he a crack hit, though?
He's in recovery.
I don't mean to make fun at it.
Like, yeah, sorry.
Sorry, like, you know, addiction is an issue that a lot of families deal with.
And anyway, moving on, I don't think he's doing, like, crack's not that expensive for the budget he's getting.
Yeah.
Can you do recreational crack?
Yes.
That's what Carl Hart was talking about.
Oh, yeah.
Actually, Carl Hart, we can get into that.
His philosophy that addiction is not genetic, but rather like a, like, there's a compounding, there's a compounding variable that causes it is fascinating.
Yeah.
And like there's some, like, they're saying that there's some autoimmune disorders and like, like, like, leaky gut type stuff that may be the true cause of addiction.
Well, his whole thing was like, there's not like a real true definition.
Like, like, if you, if I was to say, like, you're addicted.
that encompasses a lot more than what
you would just think off the top.
There's no addiction gene.
It's just like trying to define and give it borders
is just way harder than you would think
when you start to dive into it.
Like I was watching these videos on it.
And it's like when you think about what addiction is,
it's kind of hard to pinpoint what it is.
And so it's hard to categorize it.
And that was his whole point.
You guys want to get into Illuminati shit?
hell yeah i just made my billy truthball account
i love it looking for the truth
uh here here's one lebron is a racist
and this guy put up a meme uh it's a gas tank but instead of gas it says white guilt
and his white guilt is on empty so he doesn't have any white guilt
he says none of my ancestors own slaves nor did 95 percent of white americans during the years
of slavery. White Republicans died in the Civil War to free slaves. White Republicans voted
unanimously to free the slaves later voted to give them citizenship and voting rights. Democrats fought
against all three of these amendments. That's untrue social. I don't know what the actual
percentages. I think a lot of people might be shocked to look back into their own family history and
there might be some rocks that you don't want to turn over.
You know, it's great. I mean, West Virginia, that was the whole reason they seceded from the
South. Yep. It was because they're like, we don't have, like, we live in the mountains. We don't
have large farms. Was it Kansas Nebraska Act? Was that the crazy one where the government said,
we don't want to get involved? The government basically said, I don't want to get political
with it. So I don't want to make a decision. But my decision is that whichever, these states don't
have any population right now. We're going to open it up. And then we're going to let the new people that
get out there vote on whether or not those are going to be.
slave states or not and then there was a rush had a big war and uh basically just used that to
determine whether or not slavery was going to expand uh if i following you own truth will you follow me
back no oh fuck no i don't fall back sorry i got to keep my ratio clean billy is you is your count
up my account's up right now i'm just lurking is it pf truth it's pf truth i'm gonna follow
you but if you don't follow me back i'm not that's hilarious you can follow me i'll consider
it. Okay, look at my page. It's actually pretty cool.
No, I don't want to.
I put my banner as a gigantopithecus.
Billy's, this is the beginning of Billy actually getting,
oh yeah, he's going to get, he's going to get sucked in for work.
I want to hear the truth about gigantopithecus, which might lead us to Bigfoot.
All right. So, let's discuss some Illuminati.
Let's get on our bullshit about the Illuminati.
Let's do it. When I say Illuminati, what do you guys think?
Billy, you're not answering because you did a lot of research on it.
So you're going to give me like a real answer.
Before today, Billy, what did you think of the Illuminati?
No, I did too much research.
I knew about the Illuminati like way early.
Yeah, what did you think about them?
I mean, it originally, when Watched the Throne came out, that was one of my first introductions.
2011.
Yes, I was 12.
Okay.
And all the symbolism and stuff.
And B-O-B was.
Flat Earth was there.
Yeah.
And like that whole, I was.
really into that was in my opinion like just because of nostalgia that's like my favorite
like like rap period like that early uh late 2000's early 2010 that's his 90s that's yeah
that's his golden but like that's when rick ross like that's no i'm sorry i understand i have
that era of myself that people were still going hard on the track instead of just like mumbling
you know hey brother yeah preaching to the choir man yeah um but they were like getting into it
And then, like, Eminem was talking about Illuminati and, like, my darling came out.
And, like, everyone thought Eminem sold his soul.
Oh, that's what y'all thought.
Yeah.
I remember when my darling came out.
Yeah.
I was like, what a cool voice trick.
Yeah.
But, like, but it was like, the devil is talking to him.
Like, did he sell his soul to the devil for fame and fortune?
And that's when I started getting into it.
It's also interesting at what juncture of your life, the Illuminati or the thought of it has entered your life.
You know what I say?
Because like, right now, it would be hard to penetrate you as an adult to be like,
this guy worships the devil or this guy is a part of a secret cabal.
It'll be hard for like you to accept that.
When we were younger, we're like, I don't know, man.
I don't know.
A lot of symbolism.
My introduction was Vanilla Ice.
I remember I remember listening to Vanilla Ice talking about.
He was talking about the Illuminati and now there's like a secret society that runs the world.
And his songs?
No.
Oh, I was like, I missed these tracks.
Let me double back.
In an interview.
And he took out, I'm seeing if I have any cash on me.
I don't have any cash on me right now.
Oh, he took out dollar bills.
He took out dollar bill.
And he's like, see this.
See the eye that's on top of the pyramid?
That's the Illuminati right there.
And they're running your life and you don't even know it.
And I was like, damn vanilla ice.
Or the owl that's perched in the $20 bill?
Yeah.
I see I had, I had a different experience with the dollar bill.
Like my dad was like super into like freemasonry.
or studying it
like he was like super into it
and so I don't even know
if there's any of this is true
but he was saying
he was showing me
what all the symbols meant
like I was like 10
or something like
they were showing me
what all that meant
and the eye
he never associated
with the Illuminati
he was just like as to all
seeing and I
representative of like
watching a society
and so I never really
viewed it as the
Illuminati
my first introduction
to the Illuminati
actually was
I think I was in college
maybe
black album come out?
Metallica?
No, no, no, Jay-Z.
Two Americas.
I don't know.
I want to say late 2000s.
Okay, yeah, something like that.
There was this preacher that
played Jay-Z's...
2003.
There you go.
Played Jay-Z's...
One of Jay-Z songs backwards.
And in the church, it was like, he played it and like, it was, this is on YouTube now.
And when he played it backwards, it said six, six, six, and all kind of like mumbo-jumbo.
And everybody was like, oh, my God.
And like, he was like, this is what I'm talking about.
Y'all don't know the content you're consuming.
This is work of the devil.
And I was like, yo, that's crazy.
And so I had this little program that would take audio and reverse it.
And of course, I couldn't get the same thing to happen.
But that was my first introduction of like, yo, Jay-Z's the devil.
yo this is wow that was my introduction what's your introduction of the illuminati big tea um
pop culture i guess like just hearing about it right i don't know that nothing formal like that
got you money has a lot of symbology on it there's the it's the eye of providence that's the eye
that's on top of the of the pyramid allegedly big t it's masonic it's masonic it's a masonic symbol
what about what about the lady with the monster energy drink do you remember her oh yes this lady is my
hero yeah big tea you know what i'm talking about too i do not oh you know we might need a cut
to let you watch it yeah i'm okay no i do okay i do the three thing i still i still want to
watch it i'm going to play it and and i do i do think monster did that on purpose okay here
we go monster energy woman like like the same way edited in the same way a metal album woman woman
Says why she believes
Monster Energy drinks are from Satan.
She had me, hang on a lie
I don't believe it.
Okay, here we go.
Look at your M closely.
There's a gap right here in the letter
M. It's never connected.
So you go into Hebrew.
The letter Vav is also
the number six.
Short top, long tail.
Short top, long tail.
You could have here in Hebrew
666 on the can.
But my interest
is the word monster.
What do you see in the oak?
There's a cross.
Okay.
What has Christ got to do with an energy drink, let alone the name monster?
So I thought, well, maybe this is a Christian company then.
BFC at the bottom of the can.
Do you know what that stands for?
That's the F word.
Big can.
In fact, they write it on the side of the can.
So I know that's the F word.
Okay.
Now, do you know what a milf is?
Yes.
That's on the box.
Milfs, dig it, and you will too.
This is not a Christian company at all.
So why would they have the cross on the can?
Here is the message.
Antichrist.
6-6-6 in Hebrew.
And then the Bible talks about the beast in Revelation.
And look at Monsters' ad.
this is their stone.
You see these M's everywhere.
Hats, T-shirts, pumper stickers.
Is there another agenda here?
If God can use people in product, so can see.
And look at it this way.
Even if the M was not the issue,
you cannot deny that that is a cross.
And what is witchcraft?
When the cross goes upside out.
bottoms up
I think that
I actually believe that
that monster did that on purpose
I don't think that's that far fetch
that the symbol like yes that's far
but like this the the brand logo
I think it's supposed to be like
monsters Satanism the same way that like
death metal uses satanic imagery
I'm just going to say it
I don't think so
this woman's kind of bad
like bad as in
like as in good
got you thinking about
she's got me thinking about
all sorts of things
I think this woman's
the devil who thought
that she's putting in my head right now
I got to stay away from her
I loved her
like that's why I was supposed
I want to reverse engineer
a conspiracy theory like that dog
we just make one up
that's what would be fun as hell to do
remember we did that in our own logo
oh yeah we did
there's a lot of human imagery
You're like, look at that UFO.
Yeah, yeah.
It's kind of like the eye.
Yeah, we've got the eye of Providence right there on it.
And it kind of looks like a penis, too.
Yeah.
Are we just trying to make people horny through our podcasting?
Yes, always.
That's the goal.
So, okay, Arrian brought up masonry.
There's a big, there are correlations between the Illuminati and the Freemasons.
So it was started.
Bill, you want to tell us when the Illuminati was allegedly started?
It was after the Enlightenment.
or it was right late enlightenment right i want to just say we're we're going to skip a lot of the
a lot of people there's some other groups from more ancient times in other religions that like
basically their name translates to enlightened but the word illuminati which is latin which means
the enlightened i like i remember actually i had a latin teacher once and he uh he heard me talking
about illuminati and he's like that's actually a latin word it's broken down in this exact conjugation
like it means those who are enlightened and uh that organization was born in 1748 now this
i'm going to give the encyclopedia britannica breakdown which is i think we can all trust
that's a good source i agree um but there's some stuff that they there's some editors notes
that are very interesting and we'll delve into that so uh born in 1748 in inglestad a city
in the electorate of bavaria so bavaria is southern germany
Johan Adam Weishaupt was a German philosopher, professor of civil law, and later Can law.
And he is said to be the founder of the Luminati.
So if we can imagine back then, the church was so involved in everything, especially in education and free thought.
The church was pretty much the government.
Yeah.
So Weishap was orphaned at a young age.
His scholarly uncle took care of his education and enrolled him in a Jesuit school.
After completing his studies, Weishap became professor of natural and canon law at the University of Ingolstad, married and started a family.
Now, here's the thing.
Weishap was a descendants of Jewish converts to Christianity.
We're like basically conspiracy, like especially like the alt-right tries to make Illuminati basically consiguous with Jewish people.
I think that actually is a way that we actually will like never get the Illuminati because they'll try to make.
an anti-symetic when really it's like a bunch of different people irish yeah um like but it's
interesting didn't he originally started because he couldn't afford uh there was like uh an
initiation initiation fee for like i think it was freemasonry yeah i think it's where he started it
because he was there was a beef that they had yeah for sure so free masonry had it was relatively
new and it was essentially it was the same thing it was it was laborers people that um were
text, things like that, work with their hands, and they started Freemasonry just basically as a
frat for like, well, really it was to avoid persecution by the church. So you could talk about
stuff like science. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you know, how stuff is, how the world really works without
being like, no, God made everything. Stop. So, so why Shep was also just dudes only, which is why I said
it was like a frat. You would just get together and have conversations and drink some beers and
yeah. So, so forth. And have a have a secret handshake.
Yeah, so part of the enlightenment, man, woman, hate her clothes.
Part of the enlightenment was this idea that people were losing religion because they realized how hypocritical the Catholic Church was.
So Wyship was convinced that religious ideas were no longer an adequate belief system to govern modern societies.
He decided to form another type of illumination, a set of ideas and practices that were applied to radically change the way European states were run.
So the group that was most closely associated with the name Illuminati was a short.
short-lived movement of Republican free thought
founded on May Day 1776
by Adam Weishop. Interesting.
Same year that
America became a country.
Professor of Cannon Law
the members of a secret society
called themselves perfectibilists.
Their founder's aim was
to replace Christianity with a religion of
reason, as later did the revolutionaries
of France in the 19th century positive
philosopher August
Conte. The order was organized
along Jesuit lines and kept eternal
discipline in a system of mutual surveillance based on that model. Its members pledged obedience to their
superiors and were dividing to three main classes. The first included novices, minervals, and lesser
Illuminati. The second consisted of Freemasons, ordinary, Scottish, and Scottish knights in the third
or mystery class comprised of two grades of priest and regent and well as Magus and King. So he started
with a narrow circle of disciples carefully selected from among his own students,
Weishop then extended his recruitment efforts from Ingolstad to Eistad, Frizing, in Munich, and elsewhere,
with special attention being given to the enlistment of young men of wealth, rank, and social importance.
From 1778 onward, Wyshop's Illuminati began to make contact with various Masonic lodges.
We're under the impulse of Adolf Franz Friedrich Frey Hervon.
Not important.
One of their chief converts, they often managed to gain a commanding position.
It was this guy's name.
It was Freyher von Kinnigy that the society was indebted for the extremely elaborate
constitution.
Never, however, actually realized, as well as the internal communication system.
Each member of the order had given him special name, generally classical, which by he alone
was addressed in official writing.
Wychop was referred to as Spartacus, while Kinigy was Philo.
All internal correspondence was conducted in cipher, and to increase the mystification, towns and
provinces were invested with new and altogether arbitrary designations. So during this time,
the Bavarian Illuminati basically was recruiting people, starting with his own staff. And then
the Masonic system became a good way to spread the word of the Illuminati, this society that was
basically gathering to help to secularize the governments and systems that took place in Bavaria.
So that stuff was being run more efficiently and not in.
inefficiently because of the church.
Okay.
And the interesting part is like it never,
it never exceeded like more than 2,000 members.
Yeah.
That's the, I mean,
we're just going off of the information that we have.
So at the beginning of it, at its genesis,
the Illuminati was like they were a startup.
Yeah.
They were like underdogs.
Okay.
Exactly.
So basically they got a bunch of members of the Varian government,
a high-ranking individuals
They would infiltrate
like other groups
like
political offices
Freemasons
in order to recruit people
Now they gave a whole list of people
That none of you
Will probably recognize their names
Of royals and stuff
But I'd like to hear you pronounce them though
I'm doing pretty good on these Bavarian names
I will say
Not good at other ones
But basically
Eddard's note
the article originally presented
Mayor Amschel Rothschild
as a founder and member
of the Bavarian Illuminati.
Upon further research,
we have found no historical evidence
to back up that claim
and have corrected the text.
I have a feeling
that if I was in the Rothschild family
and I wanted to sort of stop
all the crazy conspiracies about them,
which a lot of them are anti-Semitic
and unfair to them,
they probably tried their hardest
to get the name taken off
the Illuminati
encyclopedia Britannica page.
The Rothschilds?
Yeah.
They had a huge banking network.
So that's the official history.
I then, I sifted through all the trash of all the crazy Illuminati stuff, like crazy
theories about how basically the Rothschilds and the Illuminati together expanded their banking empire
in order to influence different countries.
There's crazy conspiracies that the French Revolution was entirely Illuminati can
auction in order to put in place
a bank
that was controlled by the Rothschilds in France
and then other
crazy stuff like one of the
Tsars swore that he would never
allow their
banking system to control
their government and then
the Rothschild swore
that they'd make sure they'd take out one of their
descendants and that's what caused the Russian revolution
they basically said that
every revolution was because of
this one family in the
Rothschilds trying to create a global banking empire.
So talk about the French Revolution.
That is probably deserving of its own episode.
But it was basically a peasant uprising that took place in France where they stormed the Bastille.
They executed the king.
And they implemented a leftist government.
It was the Jacobins.
They were the leftists.
And then, fuck, I'm forgetting the name of the other party.
But the Jacobins took over.
It was a leftist revolution trying to give.
power back to the people. It became very, very, very corrupt. The way that they're running
things, they were doing like stipends on how much grain you could buy, how much food you could
buy. And they were executing anybody that did not, that, if their, if their revolutionary
credentials were even questioned, they would chop their heads off. Friedrich Jacobi, who the
Jacobians followed, was also said to be a Lumini member. Jackabin. Yeah. Yeah. Frederick Jacobi.
Yeah. Is it a different guy? Okay.
But anyway, the thing is, the Illuminati then got persecuted because they basically thought that they were causing the French Revolution, the German Empire, whatever kingdom that they were under, basically started to put to death anyone who's associated with Illuminati.
And this is where they think a lot of it went underground.
So there was internal dissension.
It was banned by the Bavarian government in 1785.
Some members were in prison, where others were driven.
from their homes. A great place to go, if you're persecuted in Europe at this time, was America.
Wyship was stripped of his chair and banished from Bavaria. The historical record contains no further
activities of the Illuminati after 1785. This, them going underground kind of caused, you know,
this absence of what they were doing. And it was a secret society. Everyone's thinking,
oh, that's when they had to go secret and then infiltrate the rest of the world. But I have an idea, I have a,
I think that the Illuminati and Freemasonry, the reason why they're connected to so many revolutions is because they just spread ideas of human rights and like inalienable freedoms.
That's probably true.
I would think that if it was, if the Illuminati at the time was really, you know, as some conspiracies say, the ones that had, you know, that controlled the world that were an exclusive club to get into that could, you know, overthrow countries at the time.
drop of a hat. You would think that it would make it, they'd make it a little bit more difficult
to get into the Illuminati. Right? Yeah. Now it was just, oh, you know some cool person? Okay,
yeah, get them in our club. So you would think that they'd be more selective about who's allowed
to know these great rules. That was, that was my man's, I was trying to convince him that he
was bugging. And this was, not to talk about this, but this was what we were talking about.
We was talking about, like, the vaccines and how he, originally he thought that the vaccines
that because he saw nanoparticles, which is true, but he thought they were like tiny robots
that we were getting injected with that can eventually hook onto our brains and control us.
Be activated.
Yeah, all that shit.
So, but basically I was like, I was like, okay, fam, if you think like there's a secret government
plot and these high up people who are willing to kill for their secret, right, how did you get
a hold of their game plan?
Like, how did you get a hold of it of all people?
like he had no answer
YouTube
yeah that's what I'm saying
so some of the things
that the Bavarian government
found documents
that they saw them discussing
was uh
the documents were just
ideas of atheism
uh defense of suicide
in a plan to create a female branch
of the order invisible ink recipes
and medical instructions
were carrying out abortions
so at that time those stuff was very
that stuff was very underground
and probably as we see today
some of them had roles in society
and they were probably disseminating that information
to their members.
So.
I just want to write.
I want to get my hands on invisible ink recipe.
Oh, lemon juice.
Just lemon juice, just write in lemon juice?
Yeah, and then you just put a light up to it.
That's the easiest.
Does that work?
Yeah.
Oh, shit.
And then you can like...
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
I have a fact check on that real quick, man.
Yeah, lemon juice.
That's, I think I saw that in an episode of like Arthur.
Okay.
Okay.
The animated PBS.
show. Okay. Arthur Luminati.
Yeah. Confirmed.
Real quick, I might have
some breaking news. Okay. Have
we discussed Tina Turner
on this show recently?
No, she didn't die.
Oh, no. And I'm
seeing some tweets. Oh, no.
That we, I vaguely remember
saying something.
We might have talked about her. During her
voice discussion.
Yeah, the best voices. Who's the best female vocalist?
That's, shit.
I need confirmation.
Did we really?
I'm seeing some tweets.
The listeners remember better than I do.
Fuck.
Damn.
She is passed on, rest in peace.
RIP Tina Turner, man.
Damn.
I'm seeing some people say wrong Turner.
I saw that tweet.
I didn't understand it.
I said Ike Turner.
Oh, Ted Turner.
Right, right, right, right.
I don't remember talking about Tina Turner.
I think we might have.
It's possible.
Yeah, I think maybe we,
way back in the like the multiple
Dolly Parton discussions we've been in.
Yeah, because we were talking about the greatest vocalist.
I'm pretty sure her name got brought up there.
Gotcha.
I might have queen of rock and roll.
Yeah, which, yeah.
I might have confused her wife was,
or her husband was somebody too.
Tina Turner, singer of explosive power and wide reach.
We definitely discussed her.
Maybe.
She's possible.
I mean, it's,
it's getting to be to the point that you can't ignore it now.
it's bad news
Ted Turner please rest up
I mean maybe don't
I don't actually I don't know if
Go touch Jimmy Carter
Cause for somehow
Some reason
Ted Turner Jimmy Carter
You all go
Ted Turner go to Jimmy Carter's house
And y'all just
Go go do something fun
Go get ice cream or something
Jimmy Turner and Magic Johnson
Just sitting around
Swapping medical secrets
Oh did you see that guy
That billionaire I brought him up before
He's getting blood transfusions
from his 17-year-old son.
I saw that.
He's not a billionaire.
He's not a billionaire.
Everyone likes to mention that because he's just under.
And Billy,
you're like,
he's not a billionaire yet.
That's awesome.
Who is it?
He was like the cash,
was he the cash app guy?
I don't know.
No.
But he's the same guy.
I actually got into a Twitter fight with him
because he's been doing all this anti-aging stuff
and like spending millions of dollars a year to make himself healthy.
Then he posted his whoop stats.
Oh, that's the guy.
Yeah.
And his whoop stats, his HRV sucked.
It was only 60.
And I'm just like, yo, dude, your heart rate availability is 60 and you're spending all this money on like exercising trying to like like become young again.
But like an HRV of 60 is like me when I drank in 20 beers.
But imagine just like trying to live and exist.
And then some dude on Twitter's like, this this is fucking ass you about to die.
Well, he's tweeting about it.
He's tweeting about how great his HRV is.
And I'm like, yo, dude, your HIV sucks.
But also Billy just know that Billy just has absolutely.
no foresight or a big
picture recognition of anything
because Billy, how old are you again?
24. You're 24.
No, no, but there's like, your HR, your
heart is going to be old, right? Your heart
is going to be way healthy. No, that's the young as fuck.
I started at 20, I started this podcast at
21. You're going to be, your heart
is going to be so much healthier than anybody that's
in their 30s. Right. Time out. This podcast has been
over three years. Two and a half.
Well, not quite. It started in March,
right?
February.
Two in a couple months.
That's kind of wild.
Yeah, it is.
But Bill, you're going to,
when you get into your 30s,
all this shit is going to happen to you.
So my uncle.
Probably worse, though,
because all the shit that you take.
My uncle who.
I hope not, though.
Was a cyclist.
I mean,
my uncle who had a heart attack and now is in his 40s
and works out a lot.
His HRV is way better than this dude.
I know it's also genetic,
but like if you're working out,
like doing cardio,
like, you know, trying to be is like a health freak, your HRV should easily be over 100.
Well, there's also a difference between your, you're resting HRV.
Like when you're asleep, what is an HRV?
It dips down.
It's your heart rate variability.
It's basically, you know, physics.
Velocity is your heart rate, like your beats per minute.
HRV is your acceleration, I would want to say.
No, you know what?
We're going to get so many people listening to this that are like, Billy has no idea.
what he's talking about it's it's it just knows it's a number that it's a function it's a function
from it's a derivative of a function that has to do with your heartbeat can i tell you what it actually
is yeah okay you went to school for this so no i we didn't study we didn't study hrv in my
EKG class but heart rate variability billy i'm trying to actually you don't you don't need to
look it up i'm going to explain it okay it's uh it wants to look it up so bad when you have
a relatively steady heart rate there's still small small differences in between
each beat it's not like a perfectly timed metronome sure it fluctuates and when your heart rate
variability is higher that means that your body is spending more of its energy on correcting
it's able to correct other things that are going on your body so if your heart is perfectly
at a metronome in time then that means that your body is focusing all of its energy on making sure
that your heart is okay and so if you have a low heart rate variability if it's perfectly in sync
all the time that's your body being like the heart it feels like it's not doing so great right
now so we're going to spend all over time helping the heart i'm probably shit because i got
atrial fibrillation oh you have a fibb you're going to get an ablation uh unless it gets
to a point like i don't i don't know it is what it is yeah i'm just saying i'm not making fun of
like anyone's HIV but if you're spending definitely made fun of his yeah but if you're
writing articles about how you're spending two million dollars or you're you're spending two million
dollars a year on yourself and that you're getting blood transfusions from your 17 year old son
I'm going to chirp your HRV as you did yeah I'm not saying this is what it is man I'm
some dude trying to live you're like hey buddy no he's not trying to live he's trying to tell
everybody how he's trying to tell everyone how to live how he's living yeah so like I'm allowed
to chirp his HRV what is yours bill right now after you got you're not getting that the
woopie sets mine's uh after getting four hours of sleep it's 72 it's
So, I mean, he's double your age.
That's pretty good HIV.
If I'm, if I get good night's sleep.
How do you know he didn't get a good night's sleep?
For the night before, I'm like easily over 100.
But right now you're not?
Right, but like last week.
I'm just saying he could chirp you back and say, what's up with your HIV?
24 year old?
Yeah.
Mine's, but like, that's after doing a lot of Illuminati research still 2 a.m.
I'm just saying he's throwing a lot of stones from a glass house, the heart house.
Since midnight today, mine has gone from 121 to 16 to 81 to 35.
It fluctuates like that, but mine's, there's no way I need to notice it.
I have anxiety.
There's no way I need.
I'm not doing this.
It's another number that will scare you if it doesn't look good for a day.
Like when I'm like, when I'm having, like I'm in a panic attack, I'll always check my heart rate.
Yeah.
And that shit fucks me up.
Like sometimes it'll be like 130.
I'd be like, oh, fuck this.
So I found a direct correlation between my HRV and mood and the cocaine that I use.
It makes that chick go wild.
No, Billy's piss came back clean.
It did.
Actually, so that faint line, we checked it out.
So I took Benadryl because I was starting to get hives again one night.
And I took Benadryl the night before.
And Benadryl could cause a false positive for one of the tests.
Yeah.
So when I was reading the results back to what?
There was one very faint line on it and I looked up what it was correlated to.
I forget what I said on the podcast, but I lied about which one it was connected to.
Because it was connected to something that said like, try something antidepressants.
And I was like, oh, if Billy takes antidepressant, I don't want to put a shit out.
So I said it was like a different drug.
And then Billy came up to me.
He was like, so I was looking up that I've been taking Benadryl and I was worried that try whatever antidepressants.
thing was going to light up and I was like well that was by far the faintest line on
I just didn't I just didn't want people to know like it's not it's not their business
it's taking prescriptions yeah but it's the binadry cyclic antidepressants turns out
aren't used anymore I was just Googling it because they get abused and they're like bad for you
okay so they use like SSRIs now shout out to you for not doing cocaine though well now
there's haters saying I could have got it out of my system the haters like
We know you worked out.
Is that haters or is that science saying that?
That's science.
Yeah.
But Billy was clean.
He has not filled a drug.
Billy and Barry Bonds, handshake, never failed a drug test.
Both clean.
Love to see it.
Oh, on that, it turns out Connor McGregor is getting back into the USDA drug pool, drug testing pool again, which means he might fight again soon, which also means that.
I never thought it was that nice like that.
Oh, have you seen him recently?
Mm-mm.
Yeah, he's gotten.
ballooned. Like fat?
No, like he's on more juice than
a grade A
I also didn't watch him that much. I guess
he was okay. I don't know.
His fights were hyped. They were hyped.
I saw him. I know
he's like a purple belt and jujitsu
and I saw him box and I put those two
together. I was like, was he ever like a champion like that? Did he ever win?
Okay, then I'll shut up. I don't know shit about it.
Yeah, in the UFC. I mean, he's not
a professional boxer. Yeah, no, I saw it. Very
clear he wasn't. Yeah, like he
like Mayweather let him hang in there for a while
well else for money but like you know I'll shut up I'll rescind all that
I don't know nothing I don't know enough he might come here and beat your ass
I ain't scared whatever he he would beat your ass
that's what's up
what I mean shit what are you like 120 130 no he put you to pretzel
how old is he I mean how much is he uh probably like walks around at 185
he's actually probably 185 he probably doesn't know way he boxed
Mayweather at 185 and he was well he dropped down to 155
he like trust me
this dude I don't know you could go into a fight
thinking a dude can whoop you you done
yeah so I I understand that
but yeah
he might get me
you never know
you always got to think you're the bad as motherfucker
that's facts yeah
I'm looking on truth social for Illuminati
and somebody found an Illuminati
card game like Magic the Gathering
from 1994
yes so that was part so that was actually
reunited that got back
to the National Consciousness, the Illuminati, because there was a series of books.
So this is where a lot of, like, it was the 70s, the books in the 70s?
Yeah, before we get to the books in the 70s, you mind if I take a piss?
Yeah.
And a cup?
No.
Hey, let's go get another piss test.
Test that piss.
You want to test my piss?
Okay, so there was the Illuminati that started in the Enlightenment, persisted throughout Europe.
It spread through various lodges, secret systems.
societies, kind of as an underdog for a little bit, it sounds like. And then, Billy, you said that
they made their way to the United States when they were fleeing various countries in Europe.
Well, I think there's nothing recorded on that. And this is where the gray area causes
like, you know, malicious conspiracies to arise. But I think in reality, the Illuminati were one
of many groups at the time trying disseminate information that the church wanted to suppress,
speed about abortions, probably, like, decent science, you know, we saw, like, like, science
that could actually save people, like, the idea that there might be, like, little animals in
your body that.
When was Copernicus?
What years were that?
That was, I think, the start of, around the same time.
It was a start of the Enlightenment, I think, and the church, they killed him, right?
Because he said, or did he, was he the one that repented, either Galileo or Copernicus.
But Copernicus was saying, somebody got killed.
We're not the center of the solar system.
Of the universe.
Yeah.
and the sun is that's he was the big son guy
the sun is the center of the solar heliocentric yeah um nice
you landed that like i like that word you landed that it is a good word is it fun to say
it is what's on your list that's a good side discussion what is on the list of words that are
fun to say i have my number one oh you i knew when he said i was going to bring that up if he didn't
okay go ahead couplet oh best word to say couplet i like it oh mine is um
Majestic
I like saying majestic
Majestic
I have an intrusive thought
What
And it's gonna piss
Canalope is pretty too
Ooh I like canelope is fun
I don't understand
Why there's certain people
That don't like the word
Moist
Yep
Yeah
Moist
Yeah so a lot of people don't like moist
You know exactly why there's people
who don't like that word
But they just get
They get irrationly angry
But I have no idea what
Moist is cool
Why do you do I have no
What is it? He's talking about vaginas Billy
Yeah I mean you know exactly why
I think of moss
With a vagina
You think of mossy vagina
No no like the word moist
With the word moist I think of like
Moss on a rock and you sit on the rock
Okay
It's like
All right
That's what you're making
That makes more sense
Both of those are wild things to think of when you think of moist
Anyways it's probably a lot of people
Cringing right now
back to the
Illuminati's fun to say
I want to know
I want to know more words
that are satisfying to say
I like words
that are like roller coasters
like
like Illuminati
yeah
a lot of people like
the word penultimate
Penultimate
is a good one
are you say
heliocentric
just multiple syllables
is what you're just doing
this when you say words
because my mouth
my mouth goes
woo
I like saying
road
no that's not fun
plethora
that's like straight
plethora is a good word
I think they're just
they're just syllables
You're just like multiple syllable words?
I like alliteration syllables.
Okay.
Multi-syllabic.
That's a good word.
Yeah.
Poconos, Bahamas.
No.
You're just naming words that have more than one.
That's what I'm out of there.
There's no connection.
There's like different.
Most words.
You're like bouncing around.
Ironically, neither of most or words.
There's people out there.
Oh, here's a good one.
Hullabaloo.
Ah.
Hullabaloo.
Cacophony.
Another good one.
Oh, that's really good one.
Cacophonies.
Hohus.
That's a good one.
That's just a place in Jersey.
Oh.
Well, it's still a word, I guess.
Incandescent.
It's fun to say.
Oh, along that line, I taught my kids this and they love it.
So, like, we have this, I have this AI app on Discord, actually, mid-Journey.
Ooh.
That, like, does, like, I think we talked about it.
That did the fluffy unicorn.
Yeah.
I taught them this word and everything that they do now, they do bioluminescent.
Ooh, that's a good one.
Bio-luminousin.
Yeah.
I like that.
But it's also the ramifications of an AI bot doing a bioluminescent.
luminous an image, fire.
Oh, fire.
Awesome.
I like saying certain city names are fun to say.
I like Albuquerque.
I'm from there.
Yeah.
Did you, when you were watching Bugs Bunny growing up and he was always like, it was like, he shouted
us out.
Yeah.
Every single time.
It's like, New Mexico is like this subset of America where nobody knows about.
Like you would go out of town, everybody's from New Mexico and they'd be like, well,
you speak good English.
And we're like, what the fuck?
Like nobody thinks of New Mexico as part of the USA's because why would you name a state?
that. But anyway. Well, when you
when you beat Mexico and a war. But like Arizona
California, all them shit is there. We got
the New Mexico price. It's whack. New York.
We have New England. But that sounds
way cool. Like New York. It's cool
to sound cool. Like. New Mexico sounds pretty dope.
I don't know. Maybe it's because I'm from there.
I'm biased. I agree. New Mexico might be one of the
most overlooked forgotten. It's bastardized in the U.S. Nobody knows about
New Mexico. Yeah. It's like next to Arizona.
So like the bigger, the bigger one,
well, for us anyway, rather than
the Bugs Bunny shoutout was
the T.I. Shout out.
What did he say? Mississippi to Philly,
Albuquerque to Chattown. Bring them out, bring them out.
Yeah. Yeah. Albuquerque. Not high school
musical? Yeah, same thing. I don't, I've never seen it.
I thought that was Arizona. Really?
Albuquerque, New Mexico.
Gotta see high school musical. I think Tex-Mex
overshadows New Mexico because if there was like...
There's no Tex-Mex there.
I know, but like...
That's the thing about New Mexico. People lump in New Mexico with Tex-Mex,
type i don't think they do i think you're making that up right now right now if you were to
associate if you asked a random person on the street if you did like family feud let's say you
sent out a poll to americans that's tough though and they people are pretty stupid they said
what are things that you associate with new mexico they would say um breaking bad easily
and atomic bombs las cruises that would be the more well-versed ones i think yeah before i would say
I always say Bugs Bunny would probably be.
It's like in a rung,
throwing it out of a Kirk.
Yeah.
That's a good Bugs Bunny.
Yeah.
And I think it was Gary Johnson.
Yep.
He ran and he was like pretty libertarian, so.
Mm-hmm.
I would think of,
Roswell.
Was he from New Mexico?
Good call, Billy.
Yeah.
Gary Johnson?
Mm-hmm.
I think he got out a lot over nukes.
Yeah.
Yeah, Roswell is probably right.
Roswell is probably, aliens might be number one.
It might be number one, actually.
Over Breaking Bad, too.
Yeah.
50 where's area 51
area 51 yeah is in nevada
you're good
people think it's in new mexico
oh people think that roswell
and area 51 are like close
people also think the earth is flat
yeah i like that billy really thought he had me
oh he was on the edge of his sea
this is the planes all over again
when bill it was like named three planes
totally i'm going to go with
oh by the way i saw i was running this morning
i saw four f-22s whizz over
overhead like over the Hudson kind of like they were on your six you really don't know planes
billy yeah it was not F-22s what were they then uh my guess that like sound breaking
was gonna say I feel like that would have been on the and also and also I don't have a picture
yeah okay let me see I'll identify the plane well the thing is they flew by me so fast I couldn't
even get a they definitely did not break the sound barrier you're not allowed to break the sound barrier
over residential neighborhoods it'll shadow maybe over the Hudson they went by pretty fast
Yeah, there's no buildings near the Hudson River, you fucking moron.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
There's no buildings near the Hudson River.
I'm making fun of you.
There's, it might be the most densely populated part of the United States.
Well, if you fly, you're not allowed to fly over, but there's no buildings under, like underneath if you're over the Hudson River.
If an F-22, if four F-22s, the information flew over the river.
Here's a couple of issues.
You're gatekeeping planes.
No, I just want to show you these fucking planes.
I just want to show you these fucking planes that I saw this morning.
and talked you about planes
they flew by so fast
that's all I could get
but how the fuck is you going
identify a plane
I'll identify it
okay
they're flying in formation
yo
no I was running with my dog
hey Mac I'm gonna send these to the group
you gotta see what he is talking about
okay I see I see two planes here
yeah but the thing is it's like that scene
in Last of Us where the planes fly
overhead and they're like what the hell
and I was like holy shit is there something going on
Their side profile is too big to be an F-22.
This could be...
They were fighter jets.
Yeah, yeah.
I agree.
I don't know what type.
So this looks like probably an...
F-18?
Probably F-15s would be my guess.
It looks like it's got the F-it's got two tail fins back there.
Swipe.
There's another photo that I think on the swipe right, I think.
Don't swipe left.
Okay.
It's a swiped right.
I don't see anything in the other photo.
But this, okay, I'm going to narrow it down.
these are either F-15s
there's an outside
chance they could be F-35s
but I don't think that they'd fly fat
Amy over the Hudson River with every
it's still like here
here's how you know that they're not F-22
two's Billy the F-22
program is still so secretive
that we're not
selling F-22s
to other countries right well they were
definitely American fighter jets but I also
then I was thinking about I was like
oh are they like but they're not doing like a flyover
over a stadium or anything like this is you know nine o'clock on a wednesday like there's no
sports going on they're flying over i'm like they're flying to something like what's going on
and then there was one of those planes uh with the thing on top of it that we talked about uh
awax a wax yeah that we thought shot down a mh not not shot down but with their radar that
jammed yeah yeah yeah they don't have a wax don't carry missiles right right but came right
I'm saying they thought it was an enemy aircraft or something.
They detected it.
Yeah.
But we were talking about that.
We was flying right after and it's like, what the fuck's going on?
I would say it's mad impressive that you were able to identify anything from the spec in those
pictures.
You can see a little bit of the side profile.
It's a spec, but I know enough to know that it's not an F-22.
I cannot see shit.
Anyway, I was like.
That's it looks like.
I was running and I was running and just reading about Illuminati conspiracy theories
all night.
And then I woke, like, woke up and it was trying to like after no sleep, getting some run-ins.
to like get some energy and then that flies overhead and I'm like holy fuck is America at war right
now and then I was like did Russia attack and then I was like how did I not see this on Twitter
it's crazy what one thing that's in the line of how I thought I was thinking about flight 93
the other day yeah and how they scrambled aircraft to take off I think it took off from Andrews
Air Force base to shoot down flight 93 because I thought it was going to fly to the capital or the
White House or another building in Washington, D.C.
This is 9-11, right?
On 9-11, and the flight took off with no missiles on it.
And first of all, you have to be ready to, if you're going to be scrambling aircrafts in
that sort of environment, you got to make sure that the ones that are ready to go have
some missiles.
They had no missiles on these fighter jets.
And so the mission was going to be, I think it was a woman pilot.
Her mission was going to be fly into the cockpit and just go.
They call it Fox 4
Yeah
Just go right into the cockpit
And take that out with her plane
With the side of her
Side of her wing
Or
She said she was just going to fly
Crash it into the front of the airplane
And eject
Yeah
Baby
There's no way
They just asking her to die
Yeah
No that's not
There's no way
That's what actually happened
Yeah
And she was like
I
Yeah well
The plane crashed
What Billy
No she was up in the air though
Yeah
I mean she was like
I
Yep
Hell no
They chose a
Wow
Wow
A female pilot to crash her jet
Holy shit
Billy
Just call back to the Andrew Tate
Conversation
That's fucked up
Who needs a missile
When you have a female pilot
Let's get her up in the air
She'll run into something
Don't clip that
Don't clip that
No that was her mission
That's funny as fuck though
Holy shit
That would have sucked
But I can't imagine
I know the U.S. and the U.S. military has done some wild shit.
I can't imagine handing down the orders saying we don't have any missiles on these planes run into it.
Yeah.
The order was to send her up and have her shoot down the plane.
That's what she was supposed to do.
And there was none.
And they didn't have an aircraft ready that had missiles.
And they said Fox 4 this shit.
They said Fox 4.
Or they tip the wings.
That would be, that would be tricky.
too because there's no there's no way i do that it'd be tricky because you might not
do you do that be able to cause enough damage maybe because it's such a bigger plane and
your plane is small do you do you do that do we do what do you fox for it if you in the air
and he's like yo there's no missiles would i do it do you fox for it absolutely you fox for it
absolutely do you uh i would have never put myself in a position to have to make that choice
in the first place but i am curious like so they say to if
If it doesn't end up, if they were supposed to do that, you come back having not done it.
You say, I'm not going to do that.
You come back down.
What happens?
Oh, you get court martial.
Yeah, court martial.
Like, would you go to jail?
Yeah.
I think your mission was to stop that flight no matter what, any way possible.
And if you willingly bail out on it, so to speak, and turn around, go home.
And they crash the plan into a building in Washington, D.C. and people die.
Yeah, I think you get court marshal.
So your choice is literally.
go to prison or kill yourself.
Go to prison and live with the
notion that you could have stopped a lot of
innocent people from dying on the ground.
I'm cool with that. What do you mean?
I didn't do it.
You want me to kill myself.
If I saw you...
Give me a missile, bro.
Who won't got nothing on the ground, y'all can stand?
There is...
That's crazy as fuck.
You're not going to...
You're not going to guilt me into
30 murders, bro.
Like, hell no.
That's another good point.
There probably should have been some sort of surface
to air...
around Washington, D.C.
That's what I'm waiting.
I'm back.
You ain't got nothing.
I would have responded,
I am a taxpayer in this country.
And I know for a fact,
we spent $200 trillion on this shit last year.
Y'all get another plane up here that has missiles on it.
Do armed forces even pay taxes or do they get paid with like without taxes?
Does money come out of your paycheck?
Yes, pay taxes.
But like even if you work for the government, like,
do you think the government is just?
like one thing. I know, but do they take the taxes out of your money?
Your military paycheck. If you work in America, you pay taxes in America. I know, but I feel like this is, like, I feel like they'd be like you're already working for the government. So we're just going to give you pay, like, we'll just take the tax themselves.
You think the taxes come out. But then you're going to get that money back in your next paycheck.
The taxes are distributed. So they put it in a pie and they distribute it. But like, why would you waste money paying it to people just to take it out to give it to the IRS if you're already an entity that operates for the government?
That would be like every government
Worker doesn't take that
What?
I feel like that makes sense
Because it's just going back to the government
What do you think the government is?
A crime
No,
I'm kidding
Taxation is theft
But like when
But like
That's what was
This country found it on
You're not wrong
It's a police
It's taxation without representation
Right
Not taxation as theft
Um
No
But like
Why wouldn't they just not
like just pay say this is your salary taxes don't just go to government employees it goes to
roads okay bill the question you're asking could be asked of like any job you're just saying no no
well why do you give me this money just to take it why don't you just give me the amount of right
why don't you just say you're giving me more and then give me the amount you're give me my net
incest or my gross don't tell me what you take it just take it because I know but I feel
you're just saying military because
when that happens, then there is no money
that's actually being taxed.
It doesn't exist.
I just, I kind of thought that the tax, like,
their taxes are probably deducted already.
Like, we do.
Like, Barstall keeps the money. Then you get it back
if you, when you're during a tax return, if you
can. But like, like,
I feel like it would be so counterintuitive.
They have to pay taxes on who they pay.
Yeah. Yes. Everyone
that has a job in this country.
I'm sorry, but like, I feel like if you work for the government,
why doesn't the government just keep
the money that they're going to take from you and give back.
I just, that's what I'm trying to say.
It's just counterintuitive.
You definitely probably pay taxes.
Because then it doesn't exist.
Okay.
If you make $100,000, right?
If your salary is $100,000, and you actually get $66 or whatever.
Yep.
What you're saying is, why don't you say you pay me $140,000, give me the hundred that you're
giving to me and the government?
and then the 40 that exists on paper is the taxes.
But then that money isn't real.
So what you're saying for the government is...
This is stupid conversation.
I'm sorry I brought it up.
You're just saying lie about how much I get paid.
And then that way I get to keep it all for myself.
That's me, baby.
The military is going to get the money in a roundabout way.
So why does the military just keep it while they have it?
Well, yeah, every paycheck that you get, if you're in the military,
there's money that's going back to the government.
will then be used to pay you in the future yeah the problem is you're not thinking about the
future you're you're thinking that the money that's coming out is also your salary i'm very sorry
about this conversation but that will be your salary next year i'm very sorry about this conversation
i'm just saying that since it's going right like i'm more it's actually an interesting
conversation yeah i have you ever heard of mt no modern monetary theory it's it's very
interesting uh i won't get it actually we could do an episode i know the woman added to the
There's this woman that wrote a book on it that's, like, the head of it.
She actually, I think she led Bernie's, like, economic or whatever her position was in his campaign.
It's actually a fascinating conversation.
As far as, like, what he said is like when you think about the future and you tax versus, what was the analogy she gave?
It's like you, it's counterintuitive as far as you work and then you get taxed rather than you taxed and then you work.
something like that it's it's it's more fascinating than it leads on but you're not it's not a hundred
percent stupid which what you're asking it's that was what i'm saying arian do you have an eye on the
top of your pyramid tattoo no is that an eye no i do have the eye of raw where is it right there
boom oh yeah but on the pyramid no no okay wait no no all right so lumini in the united
States. Yeah. I mean, the conspiracy
theory, I don't want to give merit to it because
it's a lot of it's super anti-Semitic. The Rothschilds ruled
the world. Caused all these wars to put central banks
in different countries. I don't want to get into it, but this is what
it is. I don't want to give it merit because it's pretty harmful.
And like, I think that's that side. I think we were
looking for the Illuminati in different places. I think the
W.E.F. would be good.
Wait, hold on. Let's back up.
I don't know a lot about the Rothschilds.
And I know they are Jewish, but I don't think them having a lot of influence in government and politics has anything to do with them being Jewish.
It ties into the deeper theory that all the world's monetary issues and policies are controlled by Jewish people that have like, they keep it amongst themselves.
and they engineer things
in order for them to get richer
and for their banks to do better
despite the harm that it might cause
on other people.
That's what the anti-Semitic banking theory is.
Oh, okay, so they're saying...
So there are definitely some Jewish people
that are heavily involved in banking.
There's a lot of people that are heavily involved
in banking worldwide.
But a lot of people talk about the Rothschilds,
like they are the head of the Jewish cabal
that controls every bad thing that happens in the world.
Okay, okay.
And that's a parallel that people try to draw
out of everything.
Gotcha.
It's what Kanye was banging.
It might be, yeah, exactly.
It might be easier to just say like the very, very rich people control the world.
Yeah.
Because they can make money off conflicts, which is true.
That's why I was like, let's back up because it is very profitable for people to go to war.
Yes.
Oh, for sure.
I would actually, if you're a Rothschild, come on the show.
Tell us how this has affected your life.
Because honestly, I couldn't imagine, like, having that last name and like just have
like everyone just assumes the worst about you yeah from those are they like active rachshiles
that are like do media i don't know i don't know if they do media i saw that there's a
italian politician she's musilini's granddaughter and her name is musilini too really yeah yeah
that's tough that's tough but there there's a few like serial killers um who have like
changed their name like their family descendants have like changed their name well hitler had
family in america and they all changed their last name yeah that's that's a great
that's a good call they made they made a pact to never reproduce really that might be a myth
they're like the bloodline dies with us they're like nieces and nephews of hitler and like
they fought for the american army and it's like there's something in in our genetics in me that
allowed us to be the worst person ever so those if that's true those people are heroes
yeah they they love the world so much they stop fucking everybody has a crazy
uncle.
Yeah.
Theirs was just the worst.
Yeah.
I don't know if I agree with that though.
What do you mean?
Should Hitler's descendants stop reproducing?
If they volunteered, I think
that's great.
Yeah, that's fine.
I don't know that I would have mandated it,
but if they came to that conclusion, I'm fine.
I mean, they actually,
that's a while.
Actually, that may be one of the,
the theories.
That may be very Hitler-esque.
What?
Oh, to force sterilization?
Yeah.
Yeah, his doctor, Mingola, he definitely, he could have been talked into sterilizing himself in the future.
She's.
Aluminati.
Aluminati in modern America.
It kind of got back.
So the popular culture, these stories that were written, these books, which then translated to a card game, which people are saying predicted 9-11,
Hillary Clinton's on there
There's basically a thousand conspiracy theories
Under the Sun that are on cards
That are like play cards in this game
Which really reignited a lot of this idea
of the Illuminati and the modern interpretation
That the Illuminati may have done 9-11
Other stuff
War in Iraq
In music
Hillary Clinton
Yeah
So I think what Illuminati has kind of changed meaning
In the last 50 years
years or so. Now it's like whoever is powerful is Illuminati or whoever has a large focus of
celebrity. They're Illuminati. And there is some truth to the fact that, yeah, rich and powerful
people, they have their own networks and they do things that benefit them and they continue to
get wealthier because they have these rich, powerful contacts that the normal average day person
will never see the benefit of most of the things that they choose to do with their business
transactions they're trying to make money for themselves but illuminati's just thrown out there to be like
that's the man that's what the illuminati has become now the them the them them yeah they're them
but you know there is connections like conspiracy connections yeah that's what i was what i want to
hear the skull and cross bones group i actually was there recently uh i checked out their two it's called
the tomb is where they hang out and i like it was a it was a sunday and i was just like wandering around
and then I was like, oh shit, like, uh, I was, you know, driving, uh, I was in New Haven.
Did you like checking out the tomb and I was like scoping out the security systems?
Did you get invited in?
No.
Uh, it was just on, I, I wasn't trying to, but like, I walked around the building and, like, looked at their security systems.
They have some very, very good, like, expensive cameras, a keypad situation.
That place is a fortress.
Yeah, so talk about skull and bones.
Skull and bones.
now skull and bones i think there's actually merit to as being a secret society that may be
fucking shit up guess you some members you might know george w george hw john carrie
the 2004 election who were the two finalists all skull and bones
there are other presidents too right yeah so what what are the skull and bones it's a secret
society at Yale that certain people get tapped, I think Rob DeSantis is probably a member.
Ron DeSantis.
Ron. Yeah. Big Rob. Shout out. There's a lot of Yale baseball players who got tapped.
Basically, if you're at Yale and you come from a prominent family or they identify you as somebody
that might have connections, might be a good person to keep close in the future. They tap you
for the secret society and then they get blackmail on you.
So in their induction ceremony, I don't know everything that goes on.
I do know that, like, jacking off in a coffin is one of the things that they have you do.
So at some point in his college career, George W. Bush was in a coffin just jacking off.
I heard there.
He's like your friend, Aaron.
He's just bust in a, busts into people's places.
Yeah.
There's, uh, there's also a theory that you might have to like, this is like a all old frat theory that like they lock all your pledge brothers in a room with a goat and you all can like make
frat if one of the people fucks the goat and then the one person they like one of them does it
and then they say who did it and that person actually doesn't make it into the frat that's i've heard
a lot of shit like this i've heard like a masonic stuff i don't know if this is any country
if there are a lot of secret society type jones where it's like one of them was like you let certain
members have sex with your wife or you have sex with somebody else's wife it's like this big
weird sex shit where that they always have like that blackmail over you that like if you you know
say whatever happens or whatever like we have this on you and you always have to do some like weird
sex shit to like get in i don't know if there's any truth to that but that's one of the things how they
got holkogan bubba the sponge yeah i don't know i don't know about this so so hulk he became
best friends with a tampa dj morning i think it was a morning drive time dj
Bubba the Love Spunge is the guy's name.
And if you look up a picture of this guy,
he looks exactly like you think a dude named Bubba the Love Spunge would look.
And he used to like having his friends fuck his wife.
And like cuck holding?
Yeah, he was into that sort of thing.
And Hogan was going through divorce, tough times.
And Bubba said to his wife, like, hey, I'm sending Hulk over, show him a good time.
Hulk goes over to his house
and he knows his wife
they're again best friends
Bubba Love Sponge and Hulk Hogan
were best friends
and then he fucked his wife
and Bubba secretly recorded it
in their fuck camera room that they have
Oh wow
And then Bubba held on to that
that CD that DVD that had the sex tape on there
brought it into work
and apparently he had just like a bunch of DVDs
of people fucking his wife
An ex-employee of Bubba
Oh, is this the Gawker shit?
Yeah
A former employee found
A disgruntled employee of Bubba's, found the Hulk Hogan DVD, and then took screenshots, shopped it around in the media, and then sent it out.
I think, did TMZ get it first?
I know that Gawker, Gawker published, like, I forget how many seconds of it.
And then they were told to take it down by a judge, and they said, no, we're not taking it down.
And so then Hogan sued Gawker with the help of Peter Thiel.
He funded the lawsuit.
sued Gawker drove them into bankruptcy
got the entire website down
it is fucked up what they did to Hogan
yeah it is like he
he didn't know that he was being recorded
at the time and
yeah probably shouldn't fuck your best friend's wife
but that's not like that's a
world that's their business doesn't mean that there has to be a videotape
if you fucking that gets presented to everybody
that's absolutely true yeah Billy
crazy thing I forgot to mention about the Steve Jackson
card game the Illuminati card game
the Secret Service raided their offices in Austin, Texas
in March 1990 and confiscated a bunch of hard drives
and documents that pertained the board game.
This fueled a lot of conspiracy theories.
I mean, maybe, I don't know,
maybe it could have been retribution for if you're, you know,
Clinton and you're like, this dude, like,
made me out as a bad guy in his card game with Hillary Clinton.
like let's let's you know mess them around a bit or they were exposing the Lumini they're pissed
look I'm not one to judge hey and so modern day people that are theory to be in the Lumini
the Clintons right yeah uh Beyonce yeah that's mostly because of a Super Bowl halftime show I think
also the rock gesture it looks like the pyramid yeah there for sure yeah um when uh Sean Jackson
I think he was maybe the first person I saw
do this after a touchdown with his hands
I was like what was that meaning people are like
oh he's in the Illuminati
if you're led to Sean Jackson
into your Illuminati you need to
Now he is he was a great
I mean he with those one with those one yard
fumbles I don't think you trust him to be in a secret society
Yeah good point
Yeah was this before that became the thing
With the gloves though
Yeah then I think I think the NFL
Or whoever their equipment sponsor was
Is Nike design gloves that would make
it looks so there was one image when you put your hands together like that the most famous one was
the mark ingram one i think that's what really set it off yeah he was the one was was alabama was like
they bama was like one of the first teams to get that i think where they had those gloves i think it was
the a right oh making the a for alabama that was the i that was the 2009 national championship
game against texas so skull and that became a big thing skull and crossbones in various different
societies that all may be interconnected how like the masons and other societies in europe were
kind of had illuminati members like you know then we have the bohemian grove which has a lot of
overlap with skull and crossbones i you know these may just be social clubs where a lot of networking
happens and may cause a lot of you know big like big business networking and yeah stuff like war is
big business. Yeah. And then that is controlled by members of the same secret societies. Yeah.
Yeah. No, I mean, it's, it's a valid point. What if in a hundred years people are doing a podcast
or whatever and they're talking about like the origin of a new secret society and it's from
Billy's list. It started out, it started out just as a group of people looking to share
truths and fun facts with each other about their various professions. And then next thing you know,
they took over the world
they control the banking industry
it all dates back to Billy
that would be fucking ridiculous
and they were talking like someone's reading
a page about like like he was
you know he started working at barstool sports
he was a podcaster
Billy was trying to do something positive
like imagine like imagine me thinking
about someone writing about me like
I just read about that guy
who started the Illuminati
that's just stupid
it's just going to happen
that's hilarious
it's going to happen for sure
the interesting part to me is like
how like all these symbols
kind of like
make their way into like folklore
not folklore
pop culture
and like
part of me thinks that they just be trolling people
like so like Jay Z for instance
Jay Z and Beyonce
and all these
people like you know that shit
is going to stir the pot
so maybe that's the goal right
but you have all this like
silly symbology that people
will take it and run and run with the shit.
Yeah.
Like I remember like because I was just looking it up
because I meant to look at this
but I forgot so I was just kind of looking it up.
Remember when he had like that
Oliester Crawley shirt or something like that?
Hollister?
Hollister.
Yeah.
Hollister was the
Hollister.
Oh, there's another Hollister.
No, it's Alistair.
Okay.
Alistair Crawley.
He was just like this.
Basically just like an anti-Christian.
Like he just was, his parents were super Christian.
He was like anti, like, he kind of had like his own like set of religious beliefs and, you know, people follow it or whatever.
But he was like not a Satanist.
He used a lot of imagery though.
And I think that's, I'm curious to see he's like why, I don't know why Jay-Z would wear a shirt like that.
I'm not sure.
I don't think he did anything terrible.
I think he was just like anti-religion.
And that evolves into Satanus.
I've been called a Satanist before.
But it's interesting that they just, they continue to.
have like poke the neat like you know what I'm saying
poke the the the conspiracy bear
like it's for what
the whole luciferianism
and that was something I didn't mention
that they were accused of
because they're going against the religion
like I think
the whole development of luciferianism
and I think there's like
the luchess banking
system is the idea of like
enjoying life and
like being on earth
and enjoying
instead of just like withholding feelings stuff that was always preached by the catholic church
but just like like being you know striving for something like like for example that was a big
thing of the enlightenment that they they didn't feel bad about making money and like working hard
yeah because they're trying to obtain something like that whole idea of almost greed like was
I think back then was almost associated with Luciferian, like Luciferian.
Lusifarian.
Luciferian.
Luciferianism.
Yeah.
This is really interesting.
Mad Dog, McKenzie, get ready for this.
Taylor Swift.
Illuminati clone of satanic priestess Zina LeVay.
Wow.
Whoa.
Wait.
Yep.
Yep.
Let's go.
So there's a lot of rumors about Taylor Swift and the Illuminati flying around out there.
People say that folklore is not just about her membership in the Illuminati, but her behind-the-scenes relationship with a fellow Illuminati clone of JFK Jr.
Oh.
Folklore is about JFK Jr. not JFK Jr., but about his clone.
Wait, JFK Jr. are they talking about the Kennedy that she dated?
I was going to say she did date a Kennedy.
It's, uh, no, it's the JFK Jr. that's running for president.
That's RFK, that's RFK Jr.
the JFK Jr who QAnon keeps insisting is alive who died to come back yeah he's alive yeah
wait now I'm confused the guy that's sorry nothing let me reset not the guy that's running for
president oh I I misread this fact and it is a fact um it's a clone of the JFKK Jr that's coming
back that QAnon says it's coming back it's a clone of that guy so taylor swift was dating
JFK Jr's clone
and that's who she wrote folklore about
now she looks
a lot right right a song about
Kennedy? Yes fact
Yeah because yeah she dated one of them
yeah I'm sorry I have no idea
Connor Kennedy is that his name? I think so
so she looks
a lot like lost Taylor Swift
Kennedy curse is real the high
priestess who is this high priestess
the high priestess of the church
of Satan between 1985 and
1990 was a woman named Zina Lovina
V-E-E-E-N-A-L-A-V-A-Y.
And boy, do they look a lot of like Taylor Swift.
Let me look at this.
X-N-L-A-L-A-L-A-L-A-L-A-L-A-N-A-N-A-Z-E-E-E-N-A.
No, Z-E-E-E-E-N-A.
Oh, here's why the theory that the theory, oh, yeah.
They look a lot like her dad founded the Church of Satan.
She was the high priestess of the Church of Satan.
So those open Satanists, like,
are laughed at by the real
Illuminati
like that whole church of saying
has been like totally written off
okay well what about the fact that she cloned herself
so that in the event of her untimely death
she could move into a new clone body
her spirit could
and she cloned
guess when she cloned herself Billy
gonna go 1989
yeah that's a fact big T
she tried to clone herself in 1989
she looks a lot like Taylor Swift
Taylor Swift was born
in 1989
And shake it off refers to shaking off the Xena identity into a new body.
Blank space is about the clone being a blank space for Zena to transfer her consciousness.
And bad blood, obviously, is about the blood of Zena being used to create Taylor Swift and how satanic blood runs through Taylor Swift system.
This life would be way more interesting of shit like that was real.
And bad blood is filled, filled with Satan.
symbols and Illuminati imagery.
And if you translate the phrase
Zena Taylor Bad Blood in the Hebrew
Gematria, it translates to identical twins
and has a numeric value of 1330.
33, we all know, that's a number
that's closely associated with the Illuminati.
Oh, well, it is. It's on the front of skull and bones.
Yeah, I just said it's well known.
And 13 is a number that Taylor Swift has an affection for.
And in the video
In the video for bad blood
Mad Dog McKinsey
What was Taylor Swift's name
In the video for bad blood
Oh I don't know
I want to sound like a bad swiftie
I don't remember
Is it Becky?
Catastrophe
It was catastrophe
And in Hebrew translation
That means devil horns
And she's killed in the video
By character named Arson
A-R-S-Y-N
Which translates to hexagram
well you sound like the monster lady yeah no it's this is this is real yeah because we're connecting
dots right yeah we're connecting we're asking questions we're asking questions so this is a bad
time to do this she's coming to new york this weekend her people are probably already here the monster
they're gonna no taylor swift they're gonna there's going to be a note on our doors when we get
I'm just saying Taylor Swift might be a clone of Zena, the high priestess of the Church of Satan.
Think about it.
I'm in.
Just think about it.
We may have gotten too close to the truth.
Too close to the truth.
This might not.
Okay, but hypothetically.
That's what that was.
No, those are facts.
Okay.
So let's move on to something that's like a little crazy.
Let's like, let's actually take something seriously.
What?
What?
I don't think you know what words mean, man.
No, what?
Let's get back to the Illuminati.
What if they're...
Billy's the interesting.
No, no, like, that's like the BS Illuminati stuff.
Like, this gets like some real shit.
Okay.
Let's say there is a network of individuals in high places and low places who try to control their ideals by influencing politics, media, compromising individuals.
individuals maybe meeting on an island or you know at the bohemian grove and they try to push their
agenda on the world have any other prominent media figures ever posited this who oh a j yeah yeah
who's a j he he's just repeating shit that alex jones has said for years and like let's say there's
a whole list of people who may have visited an island
Is this the Bohemian?
Oh, Epstein?
Yeah.
Like, I mean, the thing is like, how, like.
You know a lot of chefs in the kitchen on this theory?
I don't think the Illuminati's the thing anymore.
I think that was like an ancient, like an ancient, like a, since it was a secret society that was hiding from the church, we've now sort of used it for every secret society.
But like, there might be something there.
With Epstein, yeah, I think there probably is.
Yeah.
So, but like that just proves that the idea.
You're saying, if I'm hearing you correctly, you're saying that there is a cabal of pedophiles that are trying to push pedophilia in pop culture?
Not necessarily, but maybe like just.
I think that there's a, there's definitely, what I agree with with you, Billy is what I said earlier, which is rich, powerful people make networks amongst themselves to improve their lives and to control things that will enrich themselves and their family and their friends.
Lobbyists
Yeah
That's a known thing
This definitely happens
And there
Yeah you could call it
A secret society
Just because it might not
Have a name to it
And a handshake
But that's just the way
The world works
You know
It sucks
We need a handshake
For the podcast
Yeah we do
We'll make it up after this
It's gonna be secret
Or we can tell the
Not dosions
Well they're dosing
Did we do that
At one point
Was there like a wave or something
That the
We're trying to make dosing a thing
Like you're trying to make dosing
But there
I thought it's going to be a thing.
I hope so, man.
There was some sort of...
Dosing will become a thing.
There was something that if you saw someone in public
and they listened to the show
they were supposed to do.
I don't remember that.
Like we discussed,
this show's been going on too long.
I forget.
Yeah.
Maybe.
But it didn't catch on whatever.
No, just be like,
yo, you docing?
Mm-hmm.
If you see someone on their headphones.
If you see Billy, say, I dose.
Yep.
We'll know what that means.
If you say us, just say hi.
I dose.
I want to think they're trying to drug
me all right so illuminati is is real it was a real thing yeah it has evolved and there are
people as a devolved devolved well there are people that control the media and control uh politics
and wars and they're the people as george carloom say they're the big club and you ain't in it
they're a big club they just hide in plain sight now and they used to be a secret now it's not a
secret so they're just like yeah we're the illuminati's real it exists and then they
all, but so they make you, they lull you into a false sense of security.
Yeah.
But they're, they're still out here.
Now, do I think it has anything to do with Satan besides the Taylor Swift thing?
Probably not.
Why would you incorporate, like, you, everything that you want to do is just enrich yourself
and your friends.
Why bring Satan into all this?
Because it, it's, I read about it and it is kind of rational, like enjoying your time
on earth instead of like, you know, being trying to get to heaven.
hedonism
yeah
the
the new world order
is a part of that too
and so it's kind of
yeah so like
so like the idea
that push him
like try to enact a world
government
new world order
try to you know
you know
basically become
an authoritarian
regime over the entire world
have we made any progress
towards that
having one world
government
kind of
how
wef
the world economic forum
yeah
that's not a
global government they think this is from my understanding because honestly you hear this on extremes
from the right a lot you'll hear that the left once it's it's the majority of like conspiracy theories
boiled down to like antichrist stuff and and one world government and total like he said authoritarian
control and so any policy that has any kind of diplomatic global diplomatic ventures is like
so they'll say they want borderless like that's their way of saying they want one world
government that's that's every single policy implementation that has any kind of like global
diplomacy it ends up being oh it's it's an antichrist thing and they want one world government
yeah do you want open borders I would love open borders like think about the consequences
of what you're saying but I was just curious yes but is it really
Realistic? No, of course not. But I think that should be every human's goal is that you can freely roam throughout the entire world without a care. Like, is that not what if you die, I assume you believe in Jesus, you definitely do. I've told you. Yeah. But if you die, is that not, do you not want a state in which you could just roam wherever you're in heaven? Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah. That's what I want heaven on earth. That's all I want. I just want you able to go and live your life and enjoy. Yes, I want open borders.
Is it realistic in
2003?
No.
Okay.
That's fair enough.
That'd be funny if you got to heaven and there were like different nations.
The West Coast of heaven.
Yeah.
But you couldn't go,
you couldn't go down south.
You have to get a passport to go to Mexican heaven.
That's what be fucking.
Yeah.
Mexican heaven's crazy.
Yeah.
Canadian heaven.
That'd be hilarious.
Go up there in the summertime.
Everything's just segregated.
But it would be funny as shit.
It means we'd win twice.
Aaron,
Oh, my God.
As an anti-capulous.
U.S. of A, baby.
Is that a fair way of describing you?
I'm not saying, yes, anti-capitalists.
Do you understand the hyper-capitalist ideal of why open borders are beneficial?
I understand the argument, yeah.
That it's just, it allows the free realm of labor and allocation.
I understand the argument.
In the end, sort of reduces wages and gives power to...
I understand the argument, though.
Yeah.
Yeah, but I just disagree with it.
Yeah.
You all know who's becoming anti-capitalist,
now all the swifties yeah they're seeing let's go say more they're seeing taylor rake in all this
cash and that the the ticket prices are too high but and and they're saying they're anti-capitalist
now i saw a tic-tock the other day did i send it um in the group there was i forget exactly
what it was but it was like fuck this capital is oh here it is oh so there's it's seats down
near the stage that are empty and this girl said um these aren't just seats they're stolen
memories bought hoarded and prices inflated i hate capitalism yeah come on swifties so i think
blondie's turning them turning them to the left everyone because it's been her goal for a while
they're personally inconvenienced by a price okay well the illuminati i think we've we've gotten to the
bottom of them sorry sorry bitch party's over by the way i'm not but you know we're entertaining
thought process. I think, if anything, not that the world's controlled by pedophiles, but I think
there is a level of psychopathy where to get to such a high level. Like, for example, if I got to a
level where, like, I could be, like, I would be content at a point. If I got to a certain level,
made a certain amount of money, I'd start chilling. Probably still podcast. Like, I'd probably pick up
golf once my body started breaking down. You're just describing my life. I know. I was about
I do what Arian does.
I'd reach that level where I just, like, be chilling.
There's people, like, to get past that level, like, you have to be a psychopath.
You want to control people's lives.
Yeah, you, and I think that is, if anything, there's a whole social network of like-minded
psychopaths that disregard other humans that end up running the world because they don't, like,
they want more, and nothing's ever enough.
and they will like to get to that position you have to manipulate lie steel yeah do you think
bill gates is in that yeah 100% interesting i think like this dude literally paid millions of dollars
to hook up with a bridge player like he might just be a nerd that can't get laid that's we had
that discussion like how long is the longest he've ever traveled for sex bill gates flew to russia
to fuck
if you're that rich
and you're not
in some sort of
secret society though
like you're kind of a loser
yeah
that's true
like
if you're one of the
or at one point
the richest person on earth
and nobody wants you in their club
like you suck
or you're sigma
is that like
worse than beta
no you're just like
that's the alpha
the alpha
just like
you don't care
about the group hierarchy
you just are by yourself
doing your else.
Wait, Sigma's above Alpha?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had no idea.
I've never even heard of that, but I thought Alpha was the top of the top.
No.
You haven't heard of Sigma, bro.
Sigma.
You're kind of a beta for being in Alpha.
Let's do.
Do we have voicemails today?
Like, fuck the whole hierarchy.
Let's do it.
Oh, before we get into voicemails, did you get here about that?
There's this pod.
I don't know where.
Where is it?
There's this pod of.
Orcas
Yeah
That are that are like
Passing down how to fuck with boats
And I love it
Yep
No so this is a real problem
Because orcas
Who I think
There's no recorded attacks in the wild
Because they're so smart
They get away with all their murders
That's why you think so
Yeah
I think they
This is my working theory
My working theory is
I think that they
Recognize another intellectual species
And they leave us alone
But I think
They're starting to see
the destructions that we're causing
and they're like fuck these dudes
I think that's what's happening
my like the only reason they have been
recorded is because they're too good at killing
is a bit of sorts I agree with you
but also their food items that they learned
to eat have been passed on
generations generations there's some
orca whales that only eat
sea urchants
crabs and stuff and don't
actually go after whales whereas there's other
pods that go after whales
there's another theory that the only reason
Orca's the other whales?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's why they're called killer whales, not because they're whales.
They're actually dolphins.
They're large dolphins.
The reason why they get called killer whales is because they kill whales.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
When I was in Mexico and I went on a whale watching boat, which is awesome.
And the guy was like, I've been doing this for 15 years.
And every day that I've come out here during whale season, I've seen multiple whales.
We never have any days where it's like no whales around.
There are just so many of them except for one day.
There was one day where there was not a whale to be.
seen and that's because there was a pod of orcas that were traveling through that area
and so the other whales heard the pod coming or they told each other and they just deviated
completely from their normal house. Debo coming. I was going to tuck mine. Yeah. I don't know what we
just said, but I got the gist. It's a Friday reference. Oh, yeah. Is it a Friday of IceQ?
I know what it is. I haven't seen. It's a very famous line. It's cool. Yeah. Debo was the
Big dude on the block.
Got it.
So,
you know,
you've heard
the reference
of Dibo before,
right?
Maybe,
and I didn't recognize it.
I'm a Dbo that child.
A Dbo.
He's deboing it.
I think,
I think this is maybe more common
in other communities
than my own.
Facts.
We're learning.
Cross pollination.
It makes this podcast.
I just learned how the Swifties
are turning to commies.
I'm here,
though.
Most of them.
Combran Swifties.
I'm on your squad.
Let's go.
Oh, all right, orcas, orcas.
So the reason they never attacked humans is because their parents never told them they were a suitable food source.
But if like one of those killer blackfish orcas were to get into the wild and teach those other orcas that they can kill humans, there would be more attacks.
So right now what we're seeing is all those boats.
And actually, I have a video of these dudes up in the Arctic Circle, I think probably around Alaska, Canada.
I can just tell by their accents.
I don't know the exact, but basically they almost get their boat flipped by an orca in my whole...
Yeah, they're biting routers.
They're literally biting routers.
And like, I think they sunk like three or four boats.
Yeah.
Yeah, just to fuck, just like for fun.
Yeah, and they're not even interested in like eating the humans.
They're just singing the boats, which tells me, like, get the fuck out of here.
That's what it tells me.
Yeah.
Because they're so smart.
Like, you see them when they hunt.
Like, they communicate.
Yo, I lift this up.
He's going to slide off.
you do that like they communicate in a very real way they have a language that to me that denotes
like yo stay the fuck out of here they have different languages i think yeah they don't like
different pods like no they're access can communicate there's not one one world government
yeah they're territorial but that's but that's crazier that there's multiple than one that
that probably also means that there's prejudice amongst workers like oh they're from the wrong
pod i don't like the way they talk they fight with each other if you drop
off a South Antarctica
Sea orca in like the Galapagos
or Mexico with those they'll like jump
they'll jump that orca yeah they'll be like
who the fuck is this guy wrong hood homie
yeah look we save the whales
but they're kind of racist really no difference between the ocean
in south central Los Angeles is what I'm here
let's just cancel orcas
yeah nah I'd rather cancel
human there should be it's a big big misstep that we don't have
a professional sports team named after killer
whales.
Yeah, the or the
orcas orcas or the killer whales.
Best fire.
Like dolphins are,
dolphins suck.
I'm going to see if I can't get in touch with Tonyo Brown.
Yeah.
See if they can rename.
Imagine how sick a professional uniform would be.
Black and white.
With orchid patterns on it.
There should be.
That would be late.
That would be actually fire.
Yeah.
Like the distinct orca pattern is tough.
Yeah.
It's gorgeous.
If Seattle gets the Sonics back,
I don't know if they own the name Sonics
that might have gone with Oklahoma
city
Seattle Orcas
The Seattle Orcas
The killer
With the Crackin
The Killer Whales
The Seattle Killer Whales
That's the Seattle
Hockey team
Is it really?
That's really fire
Yeah
That's what Seattle should do
If they can't get Sonics back
Yeah
And they just have like an aquatic
Yeah
Sports team
And the Seahawks flying over
Yeah
We just did that
Damn
That would be such a good
Looking uniform
Win it
That should be fire
Hell yeah
Tell you what
Let's say voice mails
for next show
Let's stack them
voicemail paluza on next thursday show programming note it is memorial day weekend we will not be in
the office on monday therefore no podcast coming out on tuesday uh and then on thursday there will be
a full-size macrodosing featuring voicemail paluza at the end um i'm gonna be remote i'm gonna be
in chicago i'm moving out there oh this is it is this your last talk tomorrow i'm is this your
last episode on macrodosing in new york uh i'm not sure
because I'm going to be back in New York for I'm actually like going to spend more time in June
not in Chicago than in Chicago just because travel is going to be insane for us. But I'll be back
in New York for a little bit in June. I'm not sure if that happens to be on. I'm sure I'll be
here for at least a Monday. I don't know about if I'll be here on a Wednesday to record a Thursday
macro dosing. But this might be my last Thursday macro dosing that I record in New York.
It's been it's been fun. It's been amazing. Billy, I'm going to miss.
You putting up this poster every day.
We got a new studio that we got to get to work on out in Chicago.
Are we bringing this poster or no?
We probably should.
I think, we can keep the poster here.
Keep it here?
Yeah, because think about you're having a whole studio built.
That's going to have macrodose.
Yeah, this is like a makeshift thing.
We've got a whole studio.
We've been squatting.
We've been squatting in the studio.
I want you to have this poster.
Thank you.
You're welcome.
I'm going to keep it in my house.
And then when I'm zoom in, just put it up.
There's no way you're Cuban at it, you know.
Wait, so you're not going to come into the office to record?
We, I don't want to, I don't, I don't step on, we had a whole conversation.
You actually have to for quality reasons.
Yeah, but, well, Billy, I feel selfish.
He shared his concern that if he's in a podcast room by himself, that other people will be mad at him.
And we're like, well, no, we're telling you like that, that's what it's for and that you have to.
And he's like, well, I feel selfish taking up a whole podcasting room by myself.
You're recording a podcast
It's literally what the room is for
I know but like what if like
A podcast with more people comes
Okay more more people
We're on the podcast is not here
That's why you reserve the studio space
And reserve it every Monday
And every Wednesday
And just because there's other podcasts that exist
This you are a part of this podcast
And last I checked
We're top five in terms of downloads
Talk that shit
Sometimes you got to let people know
Talk that shit
Tier one
Let them know
Tier one.
It's top shit.
We're top five podcasts in terms of audio listens and downloads at this company.
Come on.
So you are going to be able to record this podcast.
Matter of fact, you can Debo.
Them up out of studio if it ain't ready.
No, I don't have.
Top five player.
I don't have that ego in me.
It's just ego.
It's a fact.
I know, but I don't think of myself as that important.
You are entitled to use a podcasting studio to record a successful podcast.
I feel uncomfortable reserving a whole podcast studio for just myself.
Well, if it makes you feel any better, you're not that important.
This show is.
Okay.
So that's, that's, okay.
Yeah, tell them, Big Tee needs the studio space so that I can talk to him.
Tebow.
Tebow.
That's perfect.
All right.
We'll see you guys next week.
Have a happy, safe Memorial Day weekend.
Be safe.
Don't get behind the wheel if you've done anything.
that might be inebriating.
There's too many options out there.
Uber.
Uber exists.
Lyft, taxis, walking.
Don't, I don't want anybody from macrodosing.
I don't want anybody from macrodosing.
I don't want any dosions out there getting in trouble,
hurting themselves or hurting somebody else this weekend.
And as always, if you're murdering people, please stop.
Love you guys.
What we are.
I don't know.
You know,
I'm sorry.
I'm
