Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Extradose ft. Billy Football & MadDog | Ep. 3

Episode Date: January 22, 2023

Billy Football and MadDog bring you EXTRADOSE episode three. You'll hear a quick update on the Moscow Murders as more facts came out after our Macrodosing episode. Enjoy! Make sure to tune into Nanodosing every Tuesday and Macrodosing every Thursday, 12am EST.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macro dosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Welcome back to extra dosing. This is a special extra dosing. That's going to be focused on the Moscow murders, the updates. When we originally did the first podcast on it, literally less than 12 hours later, Brian Koberger was back in Idaho, and a bunch of stuff came out. And so it was just the worst timing. to do that podcast.

But hey, you know, now we've got to bring the updates that all came. And there's a lot more since then. I think it's Moscow, not Moscow. We got a lot of DMs that's not like Russia. I guess not. It's just Mad Dog and I on the extra dose today. Hi. I only have a couple minutes, but I wanted to pop in and talk.

Yeah. So this guy, honestly, now that I've seen the affidavit, I thought this guy was like trying to do the first. perfect crime, but he made a lot of mistakes. Yeah. Like, so what Billy's talking about is he DMed one of the girls on Instagram. He was pinged at their house at least a dozen times before the murders. It just came out that he visited the restaurants that they worked at, at least twice before.

So, yeah, no, he definitely was plotting this. and it's pretty clear evidence that for amateurs like us that he's guilty and it's hard to think that he was doing all of this for like months and planning and planning and planning before the like murders came to be so yeah no he he was plotting this for a while

but I don't know if he was imperfect or he wanted to get caught which I think is what we're still trying to figure out I mean the craziest part when we found out he was like a criminology student everybody was like oh he must have been trying to do the perfect crime that's why he was studying criminology but like there was a bunch of stuff that they teach in criminology one-on-one that he just was terrible at like the fact that he left the sheath of the knife we found out at the crime scene which had all the DNA that they found I don't know how exactly they found it there's rumors they used ancestry um but they got it from

his trash, I think, at the end of the day. They got it from his father's trash, I thought. Oh. Summer's trash. All the way in Pennsylvania. Yeah. But that's wild. So what

did he DM to the girls? I didn't see that exact spot. Apparently, it was just, it was, it was nothing creepy in terms of like, it was just more of like a, hey, hi, how are you? And the girls never responded.

Obviously. But he did take those steps to DM them on Instagram. That's even more terrifying. Yeah. That's even more terrifying because it's just like any random dude who just says, hey, like. I mean, if that's what's happening now, I'm screwed. Like, I'm dead.

But I think it's different when you're, you know, a college student. And I mean, before this job, I wasn't, I wasn't getting like random DMs from people. so I think a lot of girls get those and I'm sure you're not thinking you know whatever it's some dude like move on they were all beautiful girls like makes total sense um but the fact that like he was so close to them and like visited the restaurants they worked at like he was in their proximity so often and so um like intentionally yeah yeah that's terrifying i mean it would have been better if it was like a super creepy dm because then you could be like okay there were red flags it wasn't totally random that that random dude at your you know office work uh yeah like see randomly at a restaurant like see around campus could possibly be like that's that is ridiculous like no it was just I don't know.

So it's like... They took a search warrant for his Pullman, Washington home. And what they took out was nitrate-type black gloves, a Walmart receipt with Dickie's tag, two Marshall receipts, a dust container from a Bissell Power Force vacuum, eight possible hair strands, a firetrands, a firetick, one possible animal hair strand, tons of hair, is what they got from. the apartment and computer tower, a collection of dark red spots, two cuttings from uncased pillows, and two top and bottom mattress cover packages. Jesus.

I'm assuming they're, I mean, they're going to just take all of that and compare the DNA to the knife sheet. And I don't know if they, I don't know if they ever said that the girls had DNA on them. Like,

I mean, I just don't see. how he didn't think he was going to get caught. I mean, but you're a sociopath like that, you just aren't thinking like what you think. Yeah, all those guys,

like, I know they were talking about Dahmer in like other killers. They like think they're geniuses and because of that, they're so arrogant that. And I mean, we talked about it on our episode of his dad.

Oh, wait, no, that was about, sorry, I'm mixing up my creepy men. I'm thinking about the nexium guy. Yeah. Um, I'm like, the guy was a genius.

No, but I'm sure it was a similar situation where it was just like, you know, he's a smart guy. He's in a PhD program in criminology. He was intelligent from what we know. But it's, it's, you don't, I just, you don't have that filter that you and I have this like normal rational human beings to be like, no, I'm going to stop this. And then, and now here we are. Yeah. So apparently he did try to be. intelligent by avoiding the police

by wearing gloves everywhere to not leave any fingerprints, any hair after the murders in grocery stores and you know this guy just geez they followed him for several days

in Pennsylvania's so whoa I mean this guy this guy was bad but there's this other dude who recently they think allegedly murdered his wife in co-hast at Massachusetts. Have you heard that story? Yeah, briefly. I heard about the text or the Google searches he had directly after she went

missing, which were, I mean, again, like, are all men this stupid? Like, would you just Google, like, how to bury a body? Like, I think. I think if you're stupid enough to kill somebody and not just get divorced, you're stupid enough to do other shit. That's also true. There's much easier ways to divorce your wife and even do it shittily like you could just pretend you're not getting divorced and like hide assets

and then like you know get a clean break and weird there's like really there's shittier things well there's shitty things you can do to like that aren't a city yeah that everyone all around would prefer right it's like gone girl gone girl exists

fake your own death babe like and that's what women do and that's why we're smart because we would just take our own death and get away and make the man look bad also i think men only get caught with i think women get away with murder way more i'm sure we do good for us that's a that's a theory i have so these are some of the the search the searches these are ridiculous so basically this guy's wife was probably cheating on i'm going to washington dc had apartments in several different places um this guy would was a con man basically he sold fake art he con tons of people okay and the worst thing is is there's two kids involved which i know suck uh no three kids three kids but basically this guy these are this guy's uh google searches number one 455 a m on january 1st how long before a body starts to smell so all these these are this is ridiculous this is ridiculous all this these Google searches are from between 455 a.m. and 120 p.m. How long before a body starts to smell? How to stop a body from decomposing. How to embalm a body. That jump, that's about a

20 minute jump. Like, how do you... I mean, like... The funniest thing is that this guy's like, okay, shit, like, the only way to stop a body from decomposing is embalming it. And then it's like, to embalm somebody you need a full like you need to be a mortician yeah usually then he goes like he then the next like 20 minutes he's like okay well I can't embalm the body I'm guess 10 ways to dispose of a dead body if you really need to right like what are you going to do drain the blood like through her like what how low How long for someone to be missing to inherit? Wait, he Googled that.

I didn't see that one. Yeah, that was at 6.25 a.m. So that was 30 minutes, a little bit over 40 minutes after he learned how to dispose of a body. And then he was, can you throw away body parts? What does formaldehyde do? How long does DNA last? Can identification be made on partial remains? Dismemberment in the best ways to dispose of a body.

how to clean blood from wooden floor, luminal to detect blood, what happens when you put body parts in ammonia, is it better to throw crime scene clothes away or wash them? That is the worst. That's like the most ridiculous one out of all of them. Is it better to throw crime scene clothes away or wash them? Like, this guy's absolutely clueless.

Obviously, it's good to Google the whole thing. Yeah, like, Hacksaw best tool to dismember. like some of these things like are good questions and like if you did but probably would plan ahead like maybe go to a public library and Google these with like a full they still get in public library though because you got to use your card yeah exactly but like I mean again like have you ever heard of a digital footprint like at the end of the day people know like people can figure out what you're searching but the funny thing is like the crime scene clothes away one is like of course you throw them away you burn them like yeah you you burn them you i mean you definitely don't wash them like i don't think gets rid of everything like like some of these i would be sort of curious just from like a like a just like how do you embom a body like how that's like your brain i know i know but like you could get away with some of these if you didn't just kill somebody but like is it better to throw crime scene clothes away that's like classic like like he

definitely did it and he's panicking and he doesn't even know what to do with his clothes he looks at crime scene like it couldn't be easier to point out like hacksaw best tool to dismember can you be charged with murder without a body did she was she just like was she um decapitated they haven't found her body that's okay what happened happens to hair on a dead body? What is the rate of decomposition of a body found in a plastic bag compared to on a surface in the woods? Can baking soda make a body smell good? Jesus Christ. That's all in like the span of like what 12 hours? Less. Less. I think that's five. Carry the three. Like 10 hours? Like maybe nine. But that's for. Yeah. Well, Billy, I hate to let you go. I have a dinner to catch. Hopefully, that's a future killer of mine.

Okay, true. Be safe out there. Yeah, no, I love that I'm leaving you with this. If I'm back, let me know. Have a great extra dose. I hope this was a good extra dose. Sorry, it's a little shorter than usual. I have a plane to catch soon to Arrowhead Stadium, two, and the city.

Yes, you finish talking about Cohasset and have fun this weekend. Love all the macrodotions. I'll talk to you all later, but I got to go. Peace, everybody. Thanks, Mad Dog. Shout out Mad Dog for helping me when at the last minute put together something fun. Of course. You can talk about.

Bye. Perfect. See you, Mad Dog. Cool. So don't have much more to comment on the whole situation. Stay safe out there because there's dumb asses who are terrible. committing crimes who will commit crimes so sign it off maybe the weirdest the weirder DMs i mean as you just saw serial killer does DM like a regular person or i don't know unsolicited but peace out

everybody have a good weekend or i think this is coming on on sunday Thank you.