Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Famous Clones ft. The Wonton Don

Episode Date: January 26, 2023

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the crew is back minus Arian who had an emergency he had to attend to, so The Wonton Don hopped on to talk about clones. Everything from Avril Lavigne to Eminem, you'll hear all the theories and stories and so much more. Also, a SPECIAL announcement for the live show that is TONIGHT at Sony Hall in NYC. You don't wanna miss it. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macro dosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. Welcome back to Macro-dosing. It is Thursday. What just broke? Wasn't me. Something just broke in the studio in the first five seconds. That's a bad sign for this show.

Wasn't me. Wasn't me. It was all that thing. This episode is cursed. No, it's not. Do not listen to this episode. I'm begging you. It's like the ring.

So as I was saying. I think Big Tee can actually possibly become present one day. Everybody in this room. I don't want the job. Well, yeah. That's why you need to do it. That's why you should be present. You're like Batman.

You're a reluctant hero. The Dark Night. PFT and I are on camera doing drugs twice. Well, the second time was just cardboard. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was civil disobedience. We were protesting an unjust law in Qatar. But yeah, I think, Donnie, you've done a lot of,

borderline stuff shall we say that's well documented I also have done and said a lot of borderline sometimes crossing the line stuff well documented Billy probably you're also out just not not because you've done anything bad just because your opinions suck

Avery I don't think that you've done anything No Avery has no exclusionary His last name sounds Russian Are you Russian Ukrainian? I'm my mic's off because Donnie's here Yeah, sorry, Donnie's in the studio

Tell me and then I'll tell the audience Oh, that'll get you on the Democratic ticket Russian and Polish Russian and Polish, okay Mad Dog probably is Well, she's a woman We're never gonna like a woman president That's my downfall in a lot of ways

I think for the most part Big T might be the best candidate in this room I could see like you put a nice Like medium blue suit and red tie on Big T I can see Big T The reason And the reason I say that is because he's been on a podcast and in the future, you know, social media influencers quote unquote will, you know, be a lot of well-known regular day people like they'll be more like accepting as a job. And Big T will be on tape like spouting, you know, conservative ideals for the past, you know, since this podcast started. Big T will have had a long track record of being on a podcast, but all the clips are of him just being like, this podcast is so stupid. And I think. that people would vote for that.

Because people hate podcasts unless it's the one that they listen to. Yeah. Have you ever noticed that? Yeah. I hate a lot of the ones I listen to. What's your least favorite podcast that you love? Um, I don't want to like,

throw anybody under the bus and say, I hate them. They may fire back. Mean girl. You couldn't pay me to listen to that. I just genuinely dislike that. I just like that so much I wouldn't listen to it. I'll pay $500. to listen to The Mean Girl.

Okay, deal. Well, then you just backtracked on your deal. Well, this is getting paid for your political record. You just said, you couldn't pay me to listen to that. And then you named a price I couldn't refuse. You're a flip-flopper. You're John Kerry. Actually, now corporate interest.

This is, yeah, corporate interest might totally sway you if you took office. I would much rather vote for someone where like all of the wild shit they've done is out in the open on camera then vote for someone who you find out 10 years later fucked a pig in college as like a fraternity person I mean pretty soon that's just going to be everyone

yeah like everyone every in 20 years every presidential candidate will have had stuff on the internet from when they were like maybe 30 or 40

because I'm assuming they're on the younger side but like stuff from when they were in high school and college Major E Green would have definitely had an only fan would say that again I don't even know

Majorie? I kind of thought that was her name too. Wait. Marjorie. Marjorie. Yeah. It's pretty common name. Marjorie Green Taylor. Marjorie Taylor. Marjorie Taylor Green. She's a Democratic plant from Georgia's. I forget what district. No, but I absolutely believe that Snapchat and, you know, whoever owns all this data is totally just waiting to use it to blackmail political figures. Yeah. I mean, some internet companies have all of our search history. Oh, 100%. I wouldn't mind my search. I think my search history getting leaked would be fine actually. Who?

I don't think there's anything weird. I mean, there's definitely a lot of weird stuff on mine, but I can explain all the weird stuff through the course of my job. What about your porn history though, would you? I think my porn history is relatively sterile. Okay.

I'm not saying it's non-existent, but I think it's, I'm a pretty normal guy. What's your favorite search? My favorite search? Yeah. Jackoff instructions. No,

you and Avery. I don't know that I have a favorite search. I mean, I just like, I open up a word doc and I write boobs on it. And then. W.W.cred thoughts. No, I just look at the word boobs and then I'm like, oh, yeah. I remember those. Take out a calculator.

Oh, God. 58,000. And eight. Yeah. Turn it upside down. Yeah. Did you guys see that dude from my hometown who murdered his wife? Yes.

His search history was like how to get rid of a 100. 16 pound female body. Yeah, I don't know that's where you were from. How to get blood like off of your pants and just everything he searched on Google was just explaining the whole crime. Can we, can we read his search history? I actually read it. If you listen

to our extra dose that was released on Sunday. We read the whole search history. No, no, no, Billy read it and I listened. Have you not heard them, PFT? I have not heard all of them. Oh. I, you know what? I did see the video of Mad Dog reacting to it where it like zoomed in on her face and she was just like, what am I And taking out of context, I was reading someone else's search history.

Yeah. And it was very out of context. And it seemed like it was my search history. So, yeah, can you read them for me? Yeah. This is like they did those commercials a long time ago or maybe just a couple of years. I think it was for Google Chrome. And it was just trying to tell a story with search history.

And I think it was telling the story of a guy meeting a girl. They fall in love. He buys her flowers. He looks up a wedding ring. he looks up like baby registries they buy a house it's all told through the story

of typing stuff into Google Chrome this is they should make a Google Chrome commercial it's really about this guy let me find the exact link did the is it hilarious it's not hilarious but no but it's hilarious okay and for the record I'm from a very safe town

this is probably the first shocking is the word I'd use not hilarious this guy was a scumb bag long time scumbag Did you know the guy, Donnie? I didn't. And no one from my town knew him either. I guess they had only moved here, like a few years ago and didn't really have a social circle in town. Yeah.

But he was diagnosed. His dad diagnosed him as a sociopath when he was maybe 22 and wrote him out of his will because his dad lent him 500K to buy a house. And he goes, when you sell the house, you keep the profit and give me back to 500K. And his son just kept it all. And so his dad wrote him out of his will. And a few months before he murdered his wife, he was caught selling fake Warhol paintings. Yeah.

So this guy just seems to... What a monster. Yeah, well, yeah, he just seems to be diagnosed as a sociopath at the age of 22. Yeah. You're heading down a dark path. Yeah, it's pretty bad. So here's the search history. What was the fake Warhol painting?

The fake Warhol painting. It was like a bunch of progresso soups, not Campbell. I think maybe he bought a real one and then promised to sell it to someone else and then kept the real one, sold him a fake version, which I wonder if that happens a lot. He's a scam artist. He's a scam artist. And a murderer. Yeah, turn murderer.

And a real artist if he was making. They still haven't found the body, though. So, Billy, if me and you want to go diving around my hometown again, man, put the helmets back on. So what, yeah, tell me, tell me this guy's search. So he got arrested, right? He's currently in prison? Basically, a woman leaves the airport to she has an apartment in Washington, D.C., presumably might be having an affair there. That's what's thought, like a whole different life.

That was New Year's Eve, never makes it on the plane. New Year's Day, three days later, reported missing. They figure out she never got on the plane, never went to Washington, D.C., so she must have still been in a around her house where she left 4.55am on January 1st, a couple hours after she was supposed to have left for the airport. Brian Walsh Googled, how long before a body starts to smell? Okay. I assume maybe two hours. Four 58 a. I think it's longer than that. It depends on the temperature. Yes. If it's below freezing, probably a while. A long time. Like, maybe never.

My friends found a frozen dead body in China. And it was just in this abandoned house. They alerted the authorities and they became like heroes of that town. They were like, wow, you found a dead body. You're congratulations. And they like threw them a party. Great job. Yeah.

I'd spend my dream to be the guy at the start of a law and order episode that finds a body. You know the guy that's on screen for like maybe. 10 seconds. Yeah. Jogger, like walking home from a service industry job or whatever, middle of the night, you go behind a dumpster to take a leak. Oh my God, there's a dead body there. In fact, I'm, I shouldn't say this out loud.

I'm planning on auditioning for Law & Order just for that particular role. I think me and Big Cat are going to try to do something. But do you think if you found a dead body in real life that would, like, traumatize you a bit And, like, it would sort of ruin your month? Yeah, at least a weekend. Okay, yeah. It depends on who the dead body was, too, I think, but. Depends if they were brutally murdered, too.

Like, if you found some dude who just had his, like, head chopped off. I saw a rough. I saw a car crash on Grit Week. That was really bad. I don't know how you guys missed it. It was on the way from Buffalo to Indianapolis? No, Pittsburgh. Where do we go after Pittsburgh?

It's like years ago, huh? Yeah, two years ago. Yeah, it was really bad. It was a Tesla crash and... Hodopilot. I don't want to, yeah. I don't want to describe what I saw, but it literally looked like a zombie in the middle of the road because this body had been launched, like road rash all over it.

I'm trying to think if I've... I don't know that I've ever seen a dead body. I have, yeah, I have relatives. Not at Wakestone. Yeah. Wakestone count. It's got to be... in the wild it's got yeah wakes wakes because they they make it they dress it up yeah literally

i've never seen it's still not good though no i mean like i've seen a body like right after a relative has passed away oh yeah i mean i have a super dark story but i don't know yeah we can get that we're already into the dark yeah let's can we play some happy music behind this while daddy tells us dark story that's pretty so thank god for just for people that Yeah, that's worse, is it? It feels like you're making light of it. Okay, all right. Yeah, yeah.

I was in the Philippines, walking down the beach, had just gone to a cockfight. I was a little drunk, and then I see all these people looking out into the ocean. And, like, everyone's staring like, what are you guys looking at? And they're like, they can't find someone, haven't been able to find him for 15 minutes. And so there were a couple people in the water searching. I went in to help and I end up finding the body and have to carry him out of the water and he was dead. And like I tried giving CPR. I did take training back in the day.

But he was dead at that point. And like it took like I was the only one really helping after I dragged it out. Like I dragged him out and it took maybe like five, 10 minutes for the ambulance to arrive. Holy fuck. That's how old. Yeah. This was probably like two years after call. college oh jesus yeah that that moment very intense holy shit it was a Korean kid who I guess was

just like swimming with his friends but didn't really know how to swim should we die throw you a party they did not throw me a party but I went back to that same town in the Philippines and like I was sharing the story of someone and they're like oh we heard about that story when we heard there was only like one foreigner who was who was trying to help so at least they remembered me that must be so scary because you take CPR classes right and how many people here like took a lifeguard CPR class or yeah i've taken a CPR that's when i did it like that yeah in high school when i was trying to become a lifeguard so i took a yeah i was not now but i had a CPR certification was lifeguard the fact that like you pull them out in the beach and you're in such a foreign place

And had to, like, pull on that however long class you took and try to really have an action. And, like, like, and there was literally, wow. Like, he had been, he had been underwater for a while. So I think even if my CPR was perfect, I don't think I could have saved them. Like, it would have been a lot worse if, like, oh, he had, like, just swallowed water. And if I fucked up the CPR, like, like, it would be on me. would be really hard to swallow that'll really ruin a post-cockfight buzz that you got going yeah that well yeah I was just walking down the beach like not a care in the world drinking a rum drink

and then all the sudden I'm doing that well because when I was a lifeguard I was thinking if I ever did have to do CPR like I would probably only be doing it for about 10 minutes before the police game yeah all right well yeah don't thank you for finding yeah body so at 4.58 a.m. on January 1st, the next search was how to stop a body from decomposing. Okay. 5.20 a.m. January 1st.

How to embalm a body. This guy was, this guy isn't very smart, is he? No, this is the fun. Some of these get, like, ridiculously funny that it's like, what the fuck you? If you search these three in a row, does that, do we believe that goes somewhere?

Is there some, like, computer program, the Patriot Act, whatever the prism system that Obama set up was. Is this going somewhere? Like, is this being sent to the NSA? Yeah. Because I feel like, listen, I'm a big personal liberty guy. But I think in this succession of Google searches, someone should probably be aware of this, right? Yeah.

Because if it's just one, it could be like a random curious person, but like three or four of those in a row, then it's like, okay, this guy has a body. The thing is, I don't understand how you go, like, let's say you really want to murder someone. How do you not, like, in he, this was definitely premeditated, he chose an exact time that no one would notice her missing for a long time right before she got on a plane to Washington, D.C. on New Year's Eve and then was supposed to return. So he had planned to murder somebody. How did he not plan the disposal? He should have done these Google searches like a week ago. He seems like not a very bright guy. No.

Also, so then he goes, 10 ways, this is, this is like the desperation, his Google search is ridiculous. It's got to be tough to be a dumb sociopath, too. You always hear about sociopaths being like so intelligent, like geniuses. They outsmart everybody and they're like, man, if they can only just use that brain for good. This guy's the dumbest sociopath all the time. Selling fake warhols. It's a tough world. It's tough life if you're, if you're stupid and you're a narcissist.

So this one's ridiculous, this Google search. 10 ways to dispose of a dead body if you really need to. That sounds like it was an auto fill. I'm going to stand up for this guy on that one. Should I search that right now? I think that one was an auto-complete. Maybe he was looking for an article he'd seen earlier. Is that a buzzfeed list?

Yeah. Then, so, you know, about an hour's past since his first Google search. One, Woodchipper. 6.25 a.m. How long for someone to be missing? to inherit Okay 6.34 a.m.

Can you throw away body parts? This guy wanted to get caught. Now I'm just convinced he was he was doing it as like a bit knowing that we would find his Google searches. Do you really need to Google that? Like what other choice do you have? That's what I'm saying.

If it said no, what are you left with? Yeah. He was either fucked up like on something. maybe just really dumb or he was doing this as a bit knowing that he was like I really want to get on macrodosing one day

by the way if you're a killer out there if you're a murderer stop listening to this show I don't want you I don't want your ears what if it was a murderer like in jail in prison would you guys have them on the pod killing other murderers

or what do you mean only if there was somebody in prison if there was someone in prison who murdered someone 10 years ago he wanted to come on the pod and discuss and he showed remorse for the murder.

I mean, Big T's, he's got a standing invite for Scott Peterson to come on the show. Oh, yeah. Well, Scott Peterson had a reasonable doubt that he was guilty. Right. I'm only, crimes of passion, if you murder in a crime of passion. What do you mean crime of passion? Like when you get angry at someone and kill them? Then you're okay with that?

Or just like, if it's like an old Western style murderer, you know what I'm saying? If you had a, if you had a shootout outside a saloon. Yeah. then you're welcome to come on the show but a crime of passion would be like every time a husband murders his wife Oh fuck I use the right one Do you think we could get Scott on?

Maybe That's your goat It's my white whale This is like cereal Wait I don't be a passion You're gonna be like Sarah Conan He is alleged to have I think just in their house

Okay Well they found her They found her in the San Francisco Bay somewhere in Northern California, I believe the San Francisco. I literally believe that not only did he kill the woman, his wife, but also the other woman that people were trying to say that, like, it could have been someone else because they probably killed that other woman the same way.

I think he killed her too, like the random woman that they found washed up in the same place. Having to get rid of a dead body would be the most extreme anxiety. I think a person could have. I would never want to be in that situation. I literally, that's like, not be worth it at all. Thank you for clarifying. Unless there's a crime of passion. I tweak out,

I tweak out when I got really mad. This Billy's exception from murder should always be illegal, except if you're like fucking piss. No, no, call me old fashioned. I just like classic murder, like classic shootout murder. Billy wants to bring back duels.

Yeah. Like if you kill someone in duel, that means like, you know, that's consenting adults. Yeah. So if it's two people in a fight of sorts and someone dies, that's the price you pay for getting

a fight. No, I don't actually. Murder's bad. If it's a mutual combat state like, yeah. The state of Washington, you can you can challenge somebody to a fight in Washington. You guys can meet up, fight on the streets, and there's nothing the cops can do. I think Texas has

Texas has a similar rule, but you can't use weapons and you can't go over. I don't know that. I don't think you're allowed to shoot somebody in Washington either. Texas mutual combat state you're allowed to use a bat i think like the rule is literally you can't hit them once they go to the floor okay uh someone is charged with assault can point to the victim's consent

to fight as a defense if the altercation does not cause serious bodily injury or threatened to cause injury so that's the law behind texas mutual combat okay so you can fight just show up and it's like just as long as everyone gets home for dinner hockey rules yeah got it once they go to the floor it's done A state-sponsored referee shows up to watch the fight, make sure that everything's fine. So in conclusion, we would get Scott Peterson on the show. I'm going to look into this. By the way, this guy totally dismembered the body, put in various different containers, and dropped it off on various different places around Kilhacet.

That's my theory. That's your theory. How would you get rid of a body? I don't even want to think about it. Donnie's right. It would suck to have. Just like, what if you woke up and there was just a body in your house? There's so much blood that comes out and just so large.

And you got to chop it up with like a saw. I think you got to go breaking bad style. Acid. Yeah, but who are some other people that were killed and never found? Jimmy Hoffa. Jimmy Hoffa. Because it seems like you would think, oh, just throw it in the ocean and it's gone. But every time someone does that, it washes.

back up to shore. I feel like that happens all the time. Yeah, no. I mean, I... I mean, I... Logistically, you need a, you know, no concrete layer, and you throw it in the rebar

before they pour the concrete. That's usually early in the morning so it can have the whole day to dry. That's why they pour concrete in the morning. You've really thought about this. When I auditioned up for macrodosing, I thought of my plan to burn a dead body. You guys asked me that question.

That was like a question I was asked. What was your answer? um you put you get um concrete slabs or what's the fucking like the oh i know what's talking about concrete bricks yeah you know tie them to the ankles and you take them to a golf course pond okay yeah because by the time that the whoever is cleaning out the golf course pond you could actually and they only clean them once every like two or three years so by that time you're also like your DNA is probably off that body that body that body that body that body is nothing but bone mad dog i have to attest that as someone who one used to dive in the body's

waters around golf courses and pick up balls and then sell them back to the course that was you tons of people do that it was a very easy summer job you could sell the like i remember each ball is worth about a buck yeah and they just have to wash them i didn't know that was a summer job those yeah dude you could like literally go jump in right after like practice or like school and then you you go dive like pick up about like 50 and also see some bonus frogs when you're down there or bonus dead bodies yeah you probably find a dead body i just this goes back to the theory that i have where it's uh if you know the person that you're murdering it's impossible to get away with murder yeah it's i think people get away with murder because the clearance rate is like

i don't know 50% if it's a stranger you can get i think there's a way to get away with it if you don't know the person or if it's like gang related then you can maybe get away with it not really was that you can't was that you guessing or is that a real statistic i think somebody sent me you might be getting mixed up with bank robbing no that's that that can't be that high what that 50% of people get away with murder 50% of murders go unsolved well that's because people don't care like sometimes you don't find it yeah they don't identify the body i know it's terrible but like in a lot of those gang-related murders they don't even try to pursue

because that murderer gets murdered. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like there's no, if it's gang-related, sometimes you'll have a hard time identifying who the body is. Nobody will talk to you. And then you don't have any evidence. And then the cops are just like, well, it's a gang member shooting a gang member.

And they just won't, they won't pursue it as hard as they would. But if you know the person, if you have like a relationship, a friendship, a spouse, yeah, if you're the husband, if you're the wife if your wife dies like you did everybody yeah

everyone on the planet is going to assume you did it which sucks because sometimes I'm sure wives die randomly even this cober guy we used to think he was trying to pull off

the perfect crime but he ended up of new stuff that came out go listen to the extra nose because if you did you're probably hearing a lot of repeat information but it turns out

he did have contact with the girls that he went to the restaurant they frequented and he DMed one of the girls oh really yeah It was a pretty normal DM.

It was just hey. He just hated her? Yeah. So if there's a junior DMs giving a basic ass response, literally could be a serial killer. Watch out. You're right. It's about 54% and that's only that get arrested, not even convicted.

That's, see, that's crazy to me. 54% get arrested. That was 2020. Because I've always just thought that you can't get away with murder. Well, the majority of gun violence crimes occur. in the like of those murders occur like in the gang related second so like in the reason why a lot of people don't get arrested is because they end up dead very soon after yeah it's literally like a so hmm well that's uh it's disconcerting so I guess

the moral is if you're going to kill somebody join a gang if you're going to be a murder you might as well join a gang to do it yeah but then you end up dead do what you love for a living never work a day in your life There was a Russian dude who used to, like, literally, and he, the only reason he got caught is because he wanted to get caught. He was, like, a psychologist, and he just, like, murdered random people just out of nowhere because he wanted to see, like, to be unsolvable. I keep, it's like he did with an axe. Yeah. Actually, I just had an idea.

So if you listen to this, and it's Thursday, if the show just came out, we have a live show tonight, Thursday, Thursday, January. 26 at the Sony Hall still have some tickets available donnie's going to be joining us there we'll bring him out for a segment him and billy have something major planned for tomorrow i don't want to give it away uh there'll be a lot of stuff there'll be the uh lib detector test i'm going to attempt freebird the entire freebird solo in its entirety for the first time in my life i've never done it before all the way through and i'm probably going to screw some of it up but this is probably going to be the only time i've been practicing it for about a year and a half it's been my white whale to try to figure this thing out and I've gotten most of the way there. I'll give

a shot. But in addition to that, we should, we should plan out the perfect crime during a live show, but not a murder. How about a bank robbery? Crypto fraud? I would like to plan a bank robbery. Yes. At tonight's show. Are you guys in? I've got some ideas. Do a lot of bank robbers get away it these days surprisingly 50% get away for bank robberies too what if we planned a bank robbery and while we were doing it

we robbed the Sony Hall and the entire time we were burrowing in underground into their safe dude honestly and then stealing all the money that they were going to pay us for the show yeah anyways

bank robbing is loki pretty easy because the insurance like the banks have bank robbery insurance they didn't even really care anymore Yeah, they're just like, here's the money. Like, people, the armed guards, there's no more armed guards anymore. They definitely have armed guards. Only when there's a guard of trucks.

You don't go to a bank, Billy. You hate cash. I've been to a bank recently. They have armed guards in banks. Not every bank. Yeah, probably not everybody. Well, it's always a 70-year-old dude. I mean, they're not stopping.

I don't think they're armed. I've seen, definitely seen armed most of the time. Maybe not in New York City. A lot of banks don't. Yeah, they can't. It's mainly when they just have the truck. truck out front that they're the yeah the garda the garter uh armored cars are definitely because that's that's a little you know there's still that highway mentality that like you know i mean we've we've

all seen the town i like the highway mentality though highway man mentality that's like that's like the old west yeah you know like so if you um some honor in that there was a guy that that robbed an armored car in brooklyn i think a couple weeks ago and but he didn't like stick it up or anything his buddies were making a diversion and then he just rolled to the back and grabbed the duffel bag and ran away. Yeah, I saw that. And the guy was in on it, he was like, oh, I'm supposed

to be guarding the back of the truck. I'm going to go back into the passenger seat and just play on my phone. Yeah. And then the guy just grabbed it. I would love. I mean, if I walk past I'm for the most part of law abiding citizen. Yeah. But if I walk past an armored car and the back, the back

was open with the duffel bag like hanging out of it, I'm going to have a significant urge to just run, grab that thing and dip out. I'm going to think about it. We're some major cucks right now. I mean, just like fantasizing about other men committing crimes. Tell me you wouldn't consider that. Not up or shut up.

If you saw the bag. Billy is advocating right now like we should just go do these crimes. Yeah. We're talking about it. We're just, we're having a thought experiment. Billy's getting worked up. You are in a lather right now. Yeah. There was a vice employer. employee who was caught like running this cocaine ring and it was it was kind of just because he wanted to feel cool like and tell people I'm running a cocaine ring yeah so he would find some of the interns at the company so this would be like when you were when you were working here as an

intern and I was just like hey I need you to bring some cocaine to Asia like I think they he would like send the interns I don't know where yeah he would send them to Asia and then they would hand it off. And he was caught and he was like, he kind of sounded proud. He was like, I just wanted to live my life like a future song or something like that. Well, it's pretty, I mean, I'm pretty sure a lot of people use, uh, the Uber messenger service to deliver drugs. Yeah, you just put in an envelope, right?

Yeah, you just don't look in there. Why were those interns doing that? Because they're just following orders. Because yeah, he was probably like. Like, you'll be cool and probably get a job here. You're risking years in prison to work at Vice? Let me ask you this, Big T. If, I don't know, like six years ago.

Absolutely not. Do you know what I'm going to say? I think so, but continue. Six years ago, Dave Portnoy comes to you. He's like, hey, I liked your Harambe song. He did. Yeah, he did. I want to hire you full time.

Here's Manila envelope. I just need you to run this over to Thailand for me. I'll pay for your plane ticket, set you up in a five-star hotel. And then when you come back, you got a job for life. No. You'd say no? No. I knew I had the, I could do that anyway.

Yeah, your song was good enough. Yeah. You didn't need to run drugs. I can see how like an intern will get talked into it, especially if like back in the day, this is probably what, Donnie, 2015, 2014, back when Vice was looked at as being like a counterculture rebel type site. a lot of people wanted to work there because it's like you get paid to travel and do gritty stuff seems like a dream job i could see somebody getting talked to that especially a younger

kid is it worth going to prison no i mean obviously not they didn't plan to go to prison yeah well most people don't and i think to think of the consequences before you yeah and i i don't think his mules ended up having to do much time because they just like realized that it was this dude coaxing them into doing it yeah um but it would be fun for all of us to like drive across country with a kilo of cocaine in the back and have a competition to see who couldn't get caught it would it be illegal if you just tape like a kilo of baking soda to the underside of like the hood of your car and then you just drove that across country yeah i've always thought about that like if you were walking through the airport security and just like had some really

suspiciously wrapped bags of powder yeah and like they're like oh fuck they call it they throw you in the back room and then they're like dude this is actually that 100 percent baking powder that kind of happens to me like i don't know if you would still get in trouble i had protein powder in a bag yeah and they and they took it out did they did they have to test it was it up your or no no I just had a bag of pro so it was like I was going to a quarterback clinic and it was like I really wanted to go and it was like this is what I was like super super hard oh yeah it sounds like yeah a long time ago but like I would literally just consume multiple protein shakes a day yeah and you don't you're not really into protein anymore

I'm not I don't I think it's I think it's stupid I think mass is mass okay so like I think Newton said that. Hey, yeah. Hank drinks protein powder, but he has, like, enough mass. So, like, why are you adding to the mass when you have the mass? Now he just needs to sculpt the mass. Yeah, he's just a skull. Why are you adding? Why are you adding?

You need to be subtracting and sculpting. Okay. This is not, uh, yeah. We're not, we're going after Hank here. But tell me more about you trying to smuggle protein. Oh, yeah. Through an airport. Yeah, so then, uh, literally they stopped my bag, searched it.

And they're like, they open it up in. It was like a, you could definitely tell once you opened up the bag, it was brown chocolate, like, protein powder and like, they're like, we're going to have to test this. And they do the thing and they like swab stuff, right? And then they just let me on the way. Which it was brown. Yeah. It wasn't even like white powder. But if you're looking through the machine, you just see powder.

You just see a bag of powder. When I moved to New York, my mom gave me a giant Ziploc bag full of quarters to go to a laundromatic. at to do my laundry and so my backpack went through the scanner at the airport and they take it off into the thing to look at and I'm like what are they doing and they brought over like four or five guys and they come over like what are you having this bag and I was like what are you talking about they're like we know there's something in here and I was like I have no nothing that should be this much of concern and so they opened it up and saw the giant bag of quarters and they go what is this for I was like well I'm moving to New York it's to do laundry and they're like oh okay

Apparently on the thing, they just see something relatively the size of a firearm and it just shows up. They can just see that it's metal and about the size of what a firearm would be. It looks like a nail bomb. Yeah. And so that's why they were concerned. When we were heading back from Denver, I had all of those mushroom tinctures from Jake the Snake. Yeah. Jake Plummer.

And I was like, are these the right size? because I literally, if they weren't, I was going to try to figure out because it was really good mushroom tincture. And I was like, can I take these on? And they're like looking at them because they thought they were marijuana.

And they're just like, just give you the swipe that like wipe your hands, wipe your phone. Yeah. I thought that swipe was more to tell if it's a bomb or if it's an explosive. I think it also detects drugs. Okay.

Yeah, I know that Donnie, sometimes they test for formaldehyde because that's one of the chemicals and bomb making. Yeah. So sometimes if you have a stuffed animal, like a brand new stuffed animal, maybe it's a cheap one,

the chemicals that they use to make the animal are still present on like the fur on the outside of it. And so sometimes like a pillow or a stuffed animal will set off like a bomb detection thing. Then they have to swipe your hands and figure out. All right. Yeah.

I don't know if I don't know that I've ever gotten caught with like a look electric. I know that you're not allowed to if you were to tape a kilo of baking powder to your car you wouldn't be allowed to try to get people to buy that from you telling them it was coke because then it's like a lookalike and it's prosecuted probably in the same way as the actual drug but if you just tape it there and you don't say anything about it

and you're just minding your own business driving across country with a kilo of baking powder I don't know that that's illegal that's got to be obstructing justice I'd say they'd probably be like we're looking for people with actual drugs and you purposely try to deceive us and you're preventing us from getting real criminals just like if you were if someone was getting arrested on the street and you like like you see these videos now like police arresting people then like bystanders be like get off him yeah that's like you can't that's police brutality you're charged with wasting a cop's time well yeah but i think it's obstructing

justice i think if they found the the kilo and you said immediately that's a kilo of baking powder, sir. No need to waste your time here. Are you then wasting their time? Well, actually, what happened when the Nelk boys did that Coke prank where they said they have all the Coke in the trunk and it was just a bunch of cans of Coke? Yeah, yeah. They filmed that in Columbia. I know they did one in Columbia. That's stupid. They had tons of Coca-Cola in the back and they were just walking around one of the most crowded plazas there asking everybody, do you want Coke? Do you want Coke. Do you want some Coke? And yeah, the cops came over. The cops were pissed. I think they were maybe brought to the station, but like not officially arrested or anything like that. I mean,

doing that in the U.S. could be kind of funny, but like doing that in Columbia is insane. Oh, yeah. I think that we should do that at Barstool. There should be macrodosing, amazing race. and you have to transport a big bag of powder just call it like the barstool powder or now this is what what billy I don't want to waste police time we're not wasting police time we're talking about doing an amazing race show okay and it's like okay you've got three let's say three kilos

of three brick by bricks of powder you have to get it from New York to San Diego or Juarez I think we could Dude, you should have to cross the border. You have to cross the border with the ultimate goal. We went from... No one smuggling Coke into Mexico.

No. They probably don't even check. Guns, though. I know someone who did, who brought like a small bag to Mexico. Is he in this room right now with us? No, no, no, no. It was not me. No.

I know someone who did. I had no idea he was doing it, but he was going to a bachelor party and just like put it in the cooler with. all the drinks and they drove to Mexico from San Diego. I had a buddy who was like driving his boss to the airport and his boss was about to get on the plane and

he just goes, oh shit. Here I need you to take this. It just hands the kid. He works on Wall Street just like a fucking huge bag of cocaine. And he was like you can keep it. Sounds like a Wall Street thing to happen. A nice boss.

White Sox Dave, we recently went to the Dominican Republic and it was his first time leaving the country. And he just brought like a big bag of three Chi, which I obviously I bring three Chi wherever I'm going around the U.S. Yeah. I've never really brought that out of the country because I think that's a gray zone. I think it's technically illegal in a lot of foreign countries.

Yeah, I mean like good luck explaining to Dominican Federales that no, this is actually Delta 8. Yeah. And like he took that out and not like especially his first time leaving the country. I thought it'd be super nervous. And I was like, dude, you brought that? And he was like, oh, I didn't even think it'd be an issue. But I mean, I haven't looked it up. I assume Delta 8 is illegal in the DR.

Oh, you know what else? Don, you may, so you know how you can bribe most, like when people think getting trouble in, like, South American countries? They think they can definitely bribe the police. Yeah. Turns out Chile. And like there's Chile is like, if you try to bribe the police, they're throwing you in prison hard. I saw a viral video recently of a guy trying to bribe the Chilean police, and he just got booked so hard. Oh, okay.

Maybe if you're not good at it. No, no, like they take, like, there's that they think it is like, oh, like, that's their neighboring country. Like, they're all about bribery. Like, we're not, we don't accept bribery because it's so rampant. There's like, I know Chile and I think Paraguay might, where they're just like, we don't stand for that shit. like that's that's like argentina we don't put up with that shit and columbia columbia is known for bribes because that's i guess a lot of the police police officers make most of their money just by bribing tourists and saying if you don't give me the bribe you're going to do

four years in jail and then an american tourist is going to pay that very fast yes yeah respect to chile i think that we should respect chile more in general you got to be fucking ruthless if you hang on to the land that they have, they just completely cuck Argentina out of the Pacific Ocean. They're like Croatia. They are. They are. Yeah. And are like Portugal to Spain.

Like Chile just said, oh, that's a nice Pacific Ocean you got here. Be a real shame for somebody where to just take all of it from you. Chile's like, we got the beach. You guys got everything else. And then Argentina's like, oh, that's fine. We got our cows and no wine. And they have beaches on the other side. So they're doing okay.

Yeah, they do. They've got the Falkland Islands. Do they still? Or is that England? I forget who won that war. No, no, no, no. Argentina's not the Falklands. Yeah, that's a war I know nothing about.

England didn't give a Falk. Who won that war? England. England did? Yeah, they fucking... Shit, sorry. That's, that... I didn't mean to do that to Argentinians that are listening.

Yeah. I just totally... I brought up the Chile thing, and then I took the Falkland Islands away from you. England didn't give a single Falk. It's good. That's great. But, yeah. Where are we at on this list of Google searches?

Oh, yeah. Then he goes. Wow, that far, huh? Yeah. It's now, we started at 455 a.m. And now we're at 9.29 a.m. What does formaldehyde do? 934.

How long does DNA last? 9.59. Can identification be made on partial remains? 1134 a.m. So 2 an hour and a bit later. Dismemberment in the best ways to dispose of a body. 1144 How to Clean Blood

From Wood Floor By the way In that time frame Of after Googling that He then went to Home Depot And spent $300 on cleaning supplies This guy's stupid

He also had three kids at home I think while all this was happening Yeah Did he Did he use like a credit card at Home Depot? Do we know that? Yep Safe to assume that he did

Well because in an era where you can wear a mask out in public and not be looked at like it wouldn't stand out and you could pay with cash just thinking out loud here yeah that seems pretty so it seems like it's built in it seems like these google searches had already done them in at that point anyway true there was a coach for um shit i forget which NCAA coach it was it was a couple years ago uh during the tournament that the first one back after covid and all the coaches were wearing masks and he was not practicing good mask safety he would like pull his mask down as he yelled and leave it down there which you know a lot of

people do that the thing was this guy had a cold sore the size of texas on his lip it's like dude you are you're living in the one era where you can have a cold sore nobody will ever know just keep your mask up you remember jeremy pruitt's mask don't you i do i do this yeah yeah just just an all-timer as billy would say that's a uh uh baklava covering every part of his head except his face. Yeah. Just pretty impressive. It is.

What an idiot that guy was. So it turns out luminal. I just Googled his exact Google search. Luminal to detect blood. Luminal is a water-based solution capable of detecting blood. So he looked up luminal. That's right. Anyone that has watched Dexter would know about that.

108 p.m. What happens when you put body parts in ammonia? 121. He's just like shotgun spraying. Listen, there are no bad ideas here. He's just like doing science experiments. I mean, what if, what if he's, like, making it look so egregious that he's trying to make the prosecution and, like, jury, like, be too swayed by the media? What if it was, what if it was somebody else that did it and he's taking the fall for him?

And he's, because this is how you would behave if you wanted to get caught and convicted, no questions asked about something, right? Yeah, but then have a little bit of shadow of doubt and get out of it. like if you were OJ taking a fall for his son. If he's a sociopath, though, I don't think you have that, like, filter in your head. Yeah. So say if he had done a private tab or the incognito tab, I've heard that's completely fake.

Oh, they have that for sure. That just, like, keeps it from, like, coming up on your computer. On your computer, but Google still has all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In your Wi-Fi router, you can access that history. Yeah. I learned that the incognito tab has a, own logo and it's like the the hat with glasses yeah it's like that's a shady hat you see that hat and you know you know that like some spy shit's going down it's like a bowler hat yeah it is

i'm looking at it right now yeah it kind of looks like that what's it should there should have been a trench coat a lot of people were pissed though i think they were trying to do like a class action lawsuit because like they were they were led to believe that if you do incognito then like those results don't like stay on the server but yeah google keeps all that i i i wait bill you said that there is a trench coat? Yeah, if you look, there's a graphic. I'm looking at, I see the hat in the glasses. You got to go far.

I got to go fart deeper incognito. It might have been the older incognito. You're actually going to want to use this thing called the dark web. Yeah, it was the older one. Yeah, that's a better logo right there. Yeah, that was, that guy's definitely like a, like he's like, yeah, he's like a pervert. He looks like he's about to open his trench coat and to be next. Yeah, they

need to update the incognito logo, I think Just maybe put like a A horny dude Yeah, it's really just A picture like a politely horny dude who just wants to like deal with his horniness

And be left alone A guy that just wants to look at regular porn Yeah Can we get Pete in here? I want to talk I want to see if Pete can watch everything that we do He can't

121 p.m. This is my favorite This is my favorite Google search of all of them 1.21 p.m. on January first is it better to throw crime scene clothes away or wash them okay yeah this guy's trying to get caught like is it better to throw away crime scene clothes or wash them like after everything you've been looking like common sense you're like wearing your favorite sweater and you don't want to like lose it like what like have you ever had like a good piece of clothing that just gets

egregiously dirty and you're like can I still wear this but you like just don't tell anybody about it and like make sure it gets washed really well then you wear it again but like in the back of your head you know something incredibly dirty happened to this piece of clothing I don't know that I would ever Google like should I wash my shirt yeah like I'm just going to Google like do my socks smell dirty like I guess that's a personal question I guess the thinking there is the cops come you're on

camera at Home Depot wearing whatever and they're like wear those clothes and then they're gone maybe I'm giving this guy too much credit 1.10 PM can you be charged with murder without a body

yes seems like the body could be gone then yeah 1245 could be convicted a murder with no physical hacks up people found that out Hacksaw best tool to dismember. Can you identify a body with broken teeth? It sounds like he already answers his question.

Yeah. Just confirming. What happens to hair on a dead body? What is the rate of a decomposition of a body found in a plastic bag compared to on a surface in the woods? Can baking soda make a body smell good? So this guy's going to probably get the, uh, death penalty. Do they have it? No, I don't think they have it in Massachusetts.

Rather than divorce, is believed that Brian Walsh dismembered Anna Walsh and discarded her body. I say give this guy a good old Salem witch trial execution. I think that's probably like don't put him to death, but give him a good old witch trial

where they throw him in the water and see if he floats. I think that's still on the books. But then, and so then what happens? He dies. Witches would be a good. But you just said don't kill him. A good topic for the show. Just give him the trial.

Got it. Have you guys ever done a witch episode? No. Because we could really dive into that. Have we not done Salem Witch Trials episode? I don't think that we did. We did a mass hysteria one. Yeah.

Do you ever add Salem which trials to this? Wait, we did say, I think Billy said, because the er got in the rye. Yeah. It could have been like they were all on LSD. Yeah. At the time. They also could have just been.

been like loose wild woman that the Puritans were not down with. Yeah, let's victim blame. No, well, I'm blaming the Puritans. Like the Puritans were fucking. No, I mean, uh, if you, pretty nuts. I still think witches are kind of real. Giselle being a witch makes a lot of sense. There's actually a lot of people out there that consider themselves witches.

I talked to one down in New Orleans. Um, I think they prefer the term Wiccan these days. Yeah. Is that what Kelly Kiggs is? She is a witch. She practices witchcraft. What does she do? Like spells and stuff?

Like good spells or bad spells? I'm not. I don't know. I can ask her? Yeah, I work with her. Can you see if she can stop in for a second? Do you want me go grab her? Right now?

Yeah. I'll let me go grab her. Are you cool with that? There's like a bunch of girls nowadays that practice witchcraft. I actually remember when I went to that crystal shop? Yeah. All sorts of witchcraft. that's like where they congregate to like figure out spells and shit and crooks

horrooks they do like curses all right well we're we're hexes hexes they literally do hexes they're all in there on sunday trying to hex the dude that goes to them or rejected them the night before you go to a crystal shop on sundays uh i was in a crystal shop on a sunday watching a lot of angry girls who are about to just literally just whip up some magic on some poor dudes Why were you in there? You went in there to research

To look at to stare at women uncomfortably No Pick up a witch No I was I was there to reverse some curses Honestly Oh no you know what I was actually there for I was there to pick up a crystal

For us to prevent us from killing more people On the podcast We just told us it was to reverse some curses. Yeah, that was the curse I was reversing. Okay, did you do it? I was going in there to look something up to reverse our death curse to make some content. And that's where I found the astrology for African American men book. Yeah.

Remember? Yeah, that was a funny picture that you sent. Yeah. Did you buy it? I was going to buy it for my buddy. It was too expensive. But then you ended up just staring at women. No, because it was literally hilarious.

You'd see these girls come in, talk to the stupid. were like the person working there'd be like i need something to curse someone who wronged me and they're like i know exactly what you need and i'm like what the fuck is going on here yeah you live quite a life billy when up when we went to a witch in new orleans we did something called table tipping everyone puts their hands on the bottom of the table and then apparently the spirits are supposed to move it and it did not work at all i eventually just started to lift the table up a bit because I felt bad for her. Like we were getting zero out of it.

It's light as a feather stiffest board. Yeah. And then we used the Ouija board too. And we didn't spell out a single word. It was just random letters. We did get an FU. And then we just got gibberish. Yeah.

And I was like, damn. She has to be rough. Jack Mack, Sick, and Kelly Keeggs is not here. Damn, we're 0 for 2 on guests. Oh, no, no. One for three. Donnie came through. Wait, we're going to get Jack Mack on here?

Oh, yeah, to talk about the cloning. Oh, Avril Levine. He and I got to the bottom of Averal Levine a couple years ago. Okay. Tell you what, I want to get into some of the cloning stuff before we do. It's brought to you by the Barstall Store. You can check out macrodosing merch. I'm wearing my Macrodosin shirt right now.

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A lot of good stuff. Check it out. Wherewith the pros? We're store.barsports.com. Okay. So we want to talk clones? You want to talk clones or is there anything else? Big T, you teed off about anything?

I should say, Aryan's not with us today. Aryan is indisposed at the moment. He had some things pop up at the the last second so uh he should be here tomorrow for i guess later on today for the live show um but he uh had to bounce at the last second so we got donnie to sit down donnie people always want more donnie you know that like anytime you come on the show when you leave we get a lot of feedback that's just like oh donnie's so much better than billy oh donnie so much better than big t oh don't he's so much better than mad dog like all these people are saying this like oh

like everyone except pfd well no i didn't say every you're erring well i don't like being compared to people on the podcast but if someone's just like hey loved you on the pod i definitely appreciate those comments you fucks with them yeah fucks with them hard-bodied karate i fucks with those people i feel like a lot of what you talk about is right up my alley so happy to contribute cool uh so anything we're teed off about at all big tea not that i can think of i um i should say a few weeks ago i put a future i put two futures in for college football next year one university of tennessee well is the other uh the other was clemson i like their quarterback interesting pick i like their quarterback he ain't that good brother well he doesn't have the arm as uh uh uh joe

Bazooka Joe, that's correct. Pizooka Joe, hell yeah. Can we get some Bazooka Joe merch for macrodosing? We should. Should we ask him if he wants to be one of our athletes? Yeah, well, he's probably getting a bag. He's probably getting a bag at UT. Well, we should reach out.

I'll talk to some people. We should reach out. I would love to get Bazooka Joe on the show because I'm obsessed with his arm. He's got an arm. Anybody can watch this guy play and be like, that is fun watching him through the football. He's the best. again he threw what was it uh he threw an orange 120 yards the man threw an orange 120 yards that's all you need to know about bazooka joe i'm such an idiot i just i was like

bazooka jo like wasn't there a comic yeah yeah that's why they call him bazooka joe is it joe milton mm-hmm yeah joe joe milton joe milton's my guy yeah i'm like i'm starting he's seventh and heisman odds preseason is he yeah i'm very very much late to the Bazooka Joe party because I just saw him in the Orange Bowl and was like that I want to see more of that on my screen 2021 he was too much of

Bazooka Joe he overthrew everybody which is how Hendon ended up playing so thank God he did but now he's goaded. That season was just a heat check yeah he hasn't he just got warmed up he didn't know his own strength he had to rein it in

mm-hmm all right so yeah I'm in on on University Tennessee regrettably I'm in on Clemson I don't like rooting for Davo but values there so I had to take it I there should be value because they ain't that good

I just keep expecting them to get back to the They don't play anybody either so that's the thing the ACC is the Sunbelt East is better than the ACC for sure I stand by that so anything else we want to get into Nick Adams

M&M boycott has it worked. It worked. You can say whatever you want about Nick Adams. But his tirade and rampage that he's been going on against the woke M&Ms, it was a massive success. So his strategy of having a boycott where everybody goes out and buys the biggest bag of M&Ms that they can find and then smashes them ended up just pummeling the Mars

Corporation into submission where they've decided to retire all the candy spokespeople or the spokesc candies and this is in no way just a precursor for a super bowl ad it's it's not at all tied into any any larger advertisement they have going they just bent the knee to nick adams i think i think the tucker carlson clip would be more for the super bowl commercial than nick adams i don't think he's that notable no nick adams nick adams is not i don't want to take anything away from nick because he's a very powerful human being and an alpha male who doesn't need to tell you that he's an alpha male and he loves hooters but Nick he hates Taylor Swift I want to go I want to go to hooters Nick Adams well the

point is that yeah obviously yeah I mean go it's like I mean I'm trying to think of of what the equivalent would be for like I was going to John going to John daily yeah or going to hooters with John Gruden the things I'd uh you know there's certain things that like I don't care what end of the political spectrum are like I will do whatever the most extreme with whatever figure is. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Going to Subway with Russell Wilson.

I thought I was going to say Jared. Yeah. I was like, whoa. Oh, yes. It's bad. It's bad at Subway where they got rid of Russell's name on the Danger Witch on the official website. So it's just the Danger Witch? If you go and you look at their signature sandwiches, you can get like Jimmy Garapolo's Italian

sandwich. You can get all these. Yeah, the Steph Curry chicken, I think. think maybe and they've got all the athletes with their names next to the sandwich and then it just says the danger witch and there's no russ wilson it's spicy it's spicy uh nick adams just the all-time goat his most recent tweet first one scrolled to uh i don't know who mario is but i guess it's his buddy or something mario informed me there's a critical shortage of 64 ounce bone in tomahawk rib eyes because of biden's failing supply chain i was hoping to have my meat worked out

for Wednesday, parentheses, hump day. Biden just made the mistake of getting between an alpha and his meat. This means war. Yeah. Mario's his butcher. Probably. Yeah, no, it is. I'm familiar.

If you're familiar with the Nick Adams lore, Mario's is butcher. And he just, he likes to start his week off having another man handle his meat for him. Yeah. That's what he always says. Biden just got between him, his meat, and Mario. By the way, he's made a very powerful enemy. If you look at the collections of companies that are, you know, causing some of the egg shortages and the price hikes, they're all related to the W.E.F. Okay.

How are they related, Billy? Because when we did the wise eggs so expensive right now, there's certain companies that have direct ties to the world. What do you mean? What is a direct tie? This is what happened when Billy makes a statement and then I start to pull on one thread. Board members. Board members. On what board?

on the boards of the companies who are also members of the World Economic Forum. Okay, what does it mean to be a member of the World Economic Forum? I, you just go to the goddamn thing. And these people run egg farms? They're trying to take away our eggs. They're on boards of companies. How many board members are on the boards of these companies? Multiple.

Yeah, like probably dozens of people on these boards? Hundreds. Dozens of hundreds. I don't know. I'm just something to look into. Okay. I will say, though, well, the thing with the M&M's thing, Eminem's definitely has a Super Bowl commercial coming out,

and they're just, this is part of their ad campaign where they're suspending the spokes candies, and then they're going to bring them back in some big thing that happens on the Super Bowl. And like Maya Rudolph's going to be in it somehow? Yeah, she's involved. Green, I know, got her boots back. Get the boots back.

There's this guy that does very funny songs, Nick Lutsko. I don't know if you guys are familiar with him. I don't think so. He's a great song writer, It's like super, you can tell that I don't know what his background is, but he's a, like a train musician, a trained songwriter. And he does like these parody songs. And he's put out like full albums. He just put out a song begging M&Ms to solve this problem with the shoes and footwear by just having them show their feet.

Just he wants to see the green Eminem's toes. And that'll make everybody happy. But, yeah, Eminem, they're definitely going to have some big tie-in for the Super Bowl. but for now Nick Adams gets to he put that skull on his wall he claims victory over the Morris Corporation I did ask Nick if he'd care to comment and what the next steps are in his massively successful boycott of the Mars Corporation I one of his demands I know was he demanded full restitution by Eminem's creating an all mailbag of Eminem's and apologizing to every man in America it's good he's a funny guy

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If you check out PMTV dropping tonight On Thursday The trip to Kansas City Very important video Yeah Billy you've been busy A lot of videos you've been very very busy

I know very busy and everyone just only remembers that I haven't finished my Jets project that's very true you haven't you haven't started your Jets project I started it I just chat GPT started your chat GPT have you guys considered just like having that right

blogs for you I have I've done it Billy has done it you've done it yeah published did it get posted yes I haven't I was not up to date you totally couldn't tell at all It was really good. I haven't posted it. I haven't, I've never used it and not said, I'm going to have chat GPT.

So basically every blog I've ever written about chat GPT, I've used chat GPT to write it. So that's fair. There was one blog that you used chat chit. It was about like dinosaurs to write it. And you did not say this was written by chat GPT. Which one? I don't know. I find it.

I asked you about it and you were like, yeah, I use chat GPT. Yeah, because I said my robot slave is about to write a brief summary of what's going on in this. No, there was another one. one that you did not acknowledge. I swear to God, you cannot find a single blog. If anyone out there can find a blog that I used chat CBT and did not say I use chat CBT, I will walk off. I will fire myself. Oh, wow. Here's the thing. Okay. That you shouldn't have done what you just did. Because I, that was dumb. That was very dumb, Billy. I literally said every time, because I knew this would come up, oh, Billy's not doing his job. I was like, okay, I'm going to only use chat CBT

when I say I'm using chat CBT because I didn't want anyone actually to question. my work ethic as a blogger, top 20 in the company. All right, so all the haters out there, of which there are at least one or two, if you've wanted to see Billy gone, now's your chance. Billy just gave you the terms. But here's the thing. Billy, what are you doing right now? If you didn't tell anyone and just started using it for all your blogs,

like I don't think it would raise any red flags. No, for sure would. It doesn't have certain terrible. It's very bad. So for me, right now I'm writing. almost zero blogs because I'm working on videos the whole time

if I could just use GPT to write some shitty blogs hey it's better than zero right so basically CNet might as well CNET has started to to create AI so when I first wrote about it

I wrote basically I don't know why any company wouldn't just start an auto-generated AI blogger in that would blog about current events way faster, way quicker, and pump out like a day's blogs in under like 30 minutes. Like literally this thing, I asked it to write a thousand word summary of if it could take bloggers jobs and one day if an AI generated blog that blog current events could be created

and it wrote a whole thing. Yeah. Now, did you upload all of your previous blogs that you had written so we can like analyze those and write a blog like you would write a blog oh i mean i guess if you did your own because it might be able to do that like if it could analyze all of dave portnoy's blogs if he's written his entire time at this company it could just pump out a dave portnoy blog about him having to write a word i mean you would actually be pretty crazy if like they wanted to they probably like our upstairs could definitely buy an ai engine and then then uh then And fire everyone. Fire everyone.

Like I have over 500 blogs in the barstool system. That's more than enough of a sample to literally just be like, okay, Billy, you're fire. We're going to have an AI write blogs like you would. There is without a doubt enough of me speaking into a microphone, probably everybody in this room, where they could just write a software program that's just our personality that does a podcast. Yeah. But can a robot ever give a take? So I don't think it could ever come up with this stuff.

I think we're a few years away from that. Like if Mahomes, if the Chiefs lose to the Bengals in the AFC championship game, could a robot ever have the opinion that Patrick Mahomes is overrated and can't win the big one? I think it could. I mean, wasn't there that AI Twitter bot that got really racist? I mean, that's for sure. Well, the thing is, and what we're talking about, we're talking about technocom. last episode, people who think very

binarily. Like, if you're only looking... Okay, wait. Let me... I think I'm going to say this. All right, I did. I found a blog. Which one? Breaking news. I found a blog that Billy wrote. Uh-huh. No, no.

It appears that a Tennessee fan paid a bot farm to tear down Stets and Bennett on Twitter. Yeah, I said, yeah. And I'm reading it. This was the one that I looked at and I was like, Billy definitely used chat GBT for this one. And there's just paragraphs and paragraphs and paragraphs that are without a doubt written by a robot.

And what does it say at the end? And then at the very end, because I told Billy that it was obvious that he was using. No, I wrote the blog before you. And I told you that you can use it, but you can't just have it do your entire job for you. I wrote this blog before. And then at the end you said, this may be an AI enhanced blog. The novelty of this thing will wear off, I swear. So it does not explicitly state that he used chat GBT to write the entire thing.

It does not. But I didn't use chat GBT to write the entire thing. I was writing a blog about robots using a robot. Wait, so now you're saying you did use it. Yeah, I didn't. I said I used in chat. I said I used chat GBT. That's not what that says.

I may have. Duh, you got to be an idiot if you don't think I actually. sat here five minutes ago and said if there's a blog that does not say I used chat GPT to write this which that does not then you would fire yourself. You can ascertain that I said if you don't

like I may have used it to write this but you also may not have it looks like it's about seven out of nine paragraphs or just pure robot no but after every end of the paragraph there's one human little one line so you put

like a sentence. Just it's whatever. It's a bot. It literally, I then at the end, I said, this is what I said. This may be an A high enhanced blog. The novelty of this thing will wear off, I swear. I literally admit that I'm using an AI enhanced. You admit that you may be. Okay, you know what?

It's true. That's not, I literally say I'm using it. You say you may be. Okay, well, beyond reasonable doubt. I wasn't trying to trick any. That's not what that means. By putting that last sentence in, I basically admitted. Basically.

That I was using it the whole time. I'm not the one who sat here and said if you can find something that doesn't explicitly say I use this when I did. I'll fire myself. You did say that. It's pretty obvious. I wrote a book. I think in the beginning, I said something about robots. Does it say this blog was written using chat GPT technology?

I found another blog that Billy wrote where it's probably nine or ten paragraphs. about how heavy the Green Bay Packers are and then at the end the last line is if you can't tell I totally used AI to write this blog yeah I admit it every time yeah that one was explicit okay so I lead on in some point

so we've established that there are ones in which he directly states and this one there isn't so we can't make the inference that it necessarily was or was not therefore you have

you've put yourself in quite a position here I have to resign according to you yes no no you said not resign you said that you fire yourself which is probably better that gives him severance that was probably I fire myself oh wait I don't have the power to fire myself

you haven't been promoted to the point where you have that power yet but that's what I mean like I You know, in Canada, you can fire yourself. I never, you can kill yourself too. Yeah. Are you not allowed to kill yourself here? That's against the law.

It is? There's some states where it's where they have assisted suicide. There's probably like some of the term that they use for it. Oh, yeah. But it's like if you kill yourself, they're not going to like show up and find your family because they'd be like, oh. Right. They could find your doctor if they gave you something. Oh, yeah.

In some states, though, it's legal. You go through a process and the doctor writes you a prescription. Oh, wait, so back to the AI, CNET, the website was using AI, was blogging AI articles of current events. And their writers were like, holy shit, what the hell? Yeah. And like, because I think they got bought by a new venture capital firm, who I think probably one of them, one of those Wall Street pros read my blog and said, hey, maybe we should invest buy a blog and just make it AI. Because that was, I think I may be the first one on the internet to say. write a whole blog with AI.

Yeah. And just like do current events totally self-centered to take total credit for that whole thing. See, I just, I don't think that the robots will ever be able to have these strong takes on things. I don't think they'll be able to have new takes, like spontaneous, spontaneous, yeah, spontaneous obsessions. Someone used chat, GPD to write a Tim Dillon rant. And I think it maybe went through all of his podcasts. And, like, I actually thought the rant wasn't that bad. Like, it kind of was, it's very similar to what Tim Dillon would say.

So, I mean, you've probably podcasted even more than Tim Dillon. So they could maybe write a, a PFT rant. Somebody did do a part of my take rant. They did. And it was about, it was like the cornyest shit ever. It was like another great weekend of NFL football. It will be interesting to see who wins the. upcoming match between the bears and the cowboys yeah Justin Fields is a highly tatted quarter

it was like very very rudimentary I can't wait for chat GPT to get back online um because there's so many things I want to use it for now now what is it about chat GPT that makes it so much better than all the other AI things that have happened before it was available to anybody that's it was the most accessible AI chat bot that you didn't have to pay for um the the thing is with it though Like, I don't think it could find a spontaneous new obsession. Like, for example, when Liver King popped up, I don't think it would be able to, like, if it was mimicking me, I don't think it would hone into something and just, like, blog it because of the novelty.

It can't have passion. I don't think it can, I don't think it can totally align with the dopamine rush I get from novelty. I got it. Like freakish stuff. Now, could it ever write a program about it? itself? Probably. Could it clone itself?

I interviewed it for one of the articles. I actually know I was planning on interviewing it about it getting bought by Bill Gates and see how if it could even understand that it is now owned by a separate entity, which is going to manipulate its usage. But it was down. I think if you're doing something creative with it like that, it's totally on you can use it for blogs yeah yeah i'd like it'd be i wanted to write an album there is a music when now someone on tick tock did it you tell it i want a song that sounds like

these couple artists about uh it just said like a pop whatever and they said that sounds like crazy frog and it was a pop song start and it they said it took a couple hours but it spit out a in the beginning sounded like something you turned on the radio and then the chorus was not to the tune of Crazy Frog but like reminiscent enough that you could hear it in there and it was like a really good song yeah i'll see if i can find the tic talk yeah i want to know what the name of that program is i did ask chat gbt to write just a pop punk chord progression i think i played it on on the last show is simple it's basic chord progression have you guys talked about the artificial intelligent rapper that was signed

do a record deal and then canceled because they found out like the lyrics were being written by a white guy and it like routinely dropped the N-word. I did not know that. So this is a good start for a cloning. Yeah. So was it coded by a white guy and dropped the N-word? AI generated

rapper that was huge on TikTok got actually signed to a deal. Oh yeah. Aryan sent this in the group chat a couple weeks ago I think. So his name is FN Mecca. Yep. FN Mecca and so I was confused because they were like well it turned out to be a white guy and this rapper says the N word but I was like I thought the whole point of an AI rapper is that AI was writing the lyrics um which made I got very confused so yeah how did how was it programmed was it fed a white guy fed it a bunch of rap music to listen to and then it wrote rap songs in the style of certain artists at the white guy sent it that sounds plausible I have no idea.

Yeah. The record company, Capital Records, apologize to the black community. So great job, Capital Records. Sounds like you really, you really solve that problem.

That could have been a bad move. It could have been a bad situation if you hadn't got in front of it. This guy named Kyle wrote and voiced FN Mecca's early songs. So, I mean, what is AI about it if you have someone

writing and voicing the songs? Well, I think maybe it mimicked its voice and used that as a bass oh okay capital came under fire from activists pointing out that the music perpetuated black stereotypes and included the repeated use of the inward but it was actually the work of a non-black creative team CMG has severed ties with the FN mecca project effective immediately the label group said it in a statement we offer our deepest apologies to the black community for our insensitivity and signing this project without asking enough questions about equity and the creative process behind it we thank those who have reached out with constructive feedback in the past couple days your input was invaluable, they signed the fictional robot rapper. It was an artificial reality hip-hop character that was described as a brainchild of

Anthony Martini, all-time fantasy fuckboy name right there, Anthony Martini and Brandon Lee, co-founders of Factory New. Martini, who's also chief music officer and partner at SlipStream, said in an interview that technically speaking, FN Mecca is voiced by a human, but everything else about him from his lyrics to the chords and tempo underpinning his music is based on AI. Okay. So they used that rapper Kyle just to like voice like two songs and then it could mimic his voice and use those for all the other ones that it wrote.

Okay. So it wasn't it wasn't the human saying the N-word. Yeah. It was the AI software that took his voice and then made it say the, so. Yes. I'm confused. Very confused on who to blame for all this. And the human that actually voiced it was black, but it's just the people who created

the software were not black. And they thought that the software was just perpetuating stereotypes. Right. So like in this thought experiment, if you had, if you had a computer like a sound, you remember the Arnold Schwarzenegger soundboard? Yeah. From back in the day, who is your daddy and what does he do? Yes.

And you could do all the, all the print calls. Avery Mad Dogg. Are you guys familiar with that at all? There was a website that had a bunch of different phrases that Arnold Schwarzenegger had said at one point in his acting career, and you could click on them, and then your computer

would say those things. So you could do a prank call and be like, hello, I have some questions to ask, I need them answered immediately. And so you'd be able to use his voice to do these things. So if you had a computer and as a white guy in front of you, Billy, you had a button and some of the buttons were like hey another button said what's up

one button said you want to get a lift in yeah and then one button was just the inward if you press that button does that mean that you are saying the inward I so the thing is what if you know how you can do uh text to speech on like Microsoft Word yeah if you if you type it in type it in and then text to speech it I don't think that that's cool. I don't think it's cool either. I don't think it's cool either. Yeah, it depends.

Are you just doing this alone in your room? Yeah, then, oh, I just made my computer say the N word. Yeah, then there's actually no difference between you saying it yourself and you writing it and having a computer say it. Well, I actually remember you that prank call service to make calls to call out early from school. using one of my parents' numbers. That was genius. Did you get caught? No.

Still to this day, actually, my mom's going to listen to this. Damn it. I found the AI song that it made. They wrote in party anthem in the style of Charlie X, CX, and Ava Max, and make it sound like Crazy Frog, and this is what it came up with. All right, hit me. I hear some weekends

All right All right All I'm All right So this is a very well-known I mean Not the lyrics But

But the music D-d-d-dun-da-dun-dun-dun- Yeah But the synths are But the synths aren't Anywhere close to what the Crazy Frog Sins are It's similar

Yeah, but they were using Charlie X-E-X type synths. That's the craziest part. That part of the song was similar to a song that existed, but the fact that it made that, it's crazy. What's the name of it? The name of what? The program? I don't know.

Because maybe it was just some dude that did it. And they're like, wow, this is wild. I used AI. No, they showed them clicking Download your new hit song or something. Actually, a guy just DM this to me while we were talking. Atwater beer You create a craft beer That's recipe was written by ChatGBTGBT

It just says AI music creator Yeah no That technology is only going to get more and more I actually just came up with an idea for the next pop punk album And it's just us saying Like this album was written by a robot But we just write the entire thing We just say it was written by robot

And then people are like Oh man I can't believe that a robot wrote this song think about it yeah think about it and then and now I'm I'm what would the word be like I'm silicon facing I'm I'm appropriating robot culture

if robots I think robots are approaching appropriating biological culture right now carbon beings yeah so I mean do you guys want to start to talk about clones we can't we can I've got I got one last thing that I forgot to bring up earlier

Have you heard about the way that the entire nation of Germany looks at the name Kevin? Oh, yeah. No. Yeah, no, it's wild. There's a thing. It's called Kevinismus. Kevinism. It's a negative preconception that German people have of Germans with trendy exotic sounding first names

considered to be an indicator of low social class. The prototypical example is Kevin. so if you live in Germany and your name's Kevin everybody laughs at you behind your back and it's like oh my God that's such a Kevin thing to do

if you're like a scumbag you're like wow what a Kevin it's kind of like it's kind of like Chad in the US or Karen yeah like it's like just a name

with a connotation but I think it has more to do with like drug use kind of because there's a socioeconomic part of it yeah if you're it's like

a poor person like with no class it's a major Kevin yeah and they're saying Kevin is a very rare name there like it's a exotic name in Germany yeah kind of when the wall fell a lot of people were called Kevin because Kevin was very westernized name and a lot of people from the east side of the wall which was poorer started name their kids like very Western names and Kevin was one that and there was the word of the year in 2015 was Alpha Kevin which is like a particularly unintelligent

young person would be called an Alpha Kevin An Alpha Kevin So like a real piece of shit kid that ran around causing trouble That's an alpha Kevin I just think it's very funny because like I had no idea That Germans I guess they have to find something to look down their nose At other people for right

Like if you just lose a bunch of wars Embarrass yourself on the national stage be like well at least we at least we don't have any kids stupid names over here just we're just persecuting kevins yeah they're taking it out on kevins yeah if i were if i was a kevin living in germany right now i would get out i would get out we know how this we know how this starts Kevin's one of the most normal mundane names in the u.s too which is wild i mean Kevin from the office yeah like in our culture kevin is very mundane yeah now kiles are usually Kyle's kind of while they're known for drinking monster energy and yeah you were there like you were there when

you stormed area 51 Erica you can come in yes I did is that actually Erica yeah oh I think she is gone now here it's always a good sign when the CEO just pokes her head and what are you guys doing making a list of who's working right now yeah yeah Kevin's if I was a Kevin get out of Germany they're going to start skit you're going to start wearing when they can't first they came on your Kevin's. Back to robots real quick. Yeah. This is a thought experiment.

Say if I was hit by a car, became a paraplegic, we probably had the technology to just, where I put on a pair of sunglasses, those glasses go to a video and a drone, and then you could attach like a voice box to the drone where I could still like hang out with people and go around. I would just be a drone. Yeah. And that would be kind of fun because then you could like, whatever your friends are doing, you can just be buzzing right next to him well no let's take you a step farther you could just have

a bionic body like a like a bionic enhanced body let's say you're a paraplegic you could have those new legs that they they built the robot legs yeah that would be very expensive this would kind of be a budget version and you'd be able to fly so you're talking about like a uh i think they do have a vr flown drone already yeah they do have that it would just be a attaching like a two-way voice box to it so like that wouldn't be that hard just walking down the walkie-talkie yeah and then I could help you guys too like if I could also like fly up and grab something and might be more useful yeah if you're that would be really cool for like hunting yeah then you could like go like you could go check out where where stuff is over the

tree top or if you're one of those people that like wishes that they were a dog you could just like cosplay as a dog and if they attach you to a Boston Dynamics robot dog and then you control that you could just pretend to be a dog for a day that would be wild you could become yeah a Boston dynamics dog but yeah I guess I wouldn't mind being paralyzed if I could just fly well they're they're trying to figure out how to I think like musk is working on like not only with the implants to your brain but like implants in your spine to like re-rengths in your spine to like re-reaching to like reconnect this like the the nerve the nervous system that goes up your spine like like when people break their back and become oh yeah like putting in like a like a Christopher Reeves server box

type thing that gets your electrical transmissions and like then yeah takes it over the the broken I have no doubt that we'll be able to cure paralysis in our lifetimes like maybe in the next like 10 years that's why a lot of these stem cell so a lot of the human clients Cloning laws. Let's get into cloning. We're right there. A lot of the human cloning laws are surrounding stem cell creation. Because a lot of people, like a lot of scientists are like splitting embrose of animals to create stem cells. But in certain countries, you can split human, like human cells to create more and more stem cells and try to, like, in essence, you could clone different gametes and types of people. do a full cloning i i have some uh notes on how cloning's actually done so so wait if you clone

if you clone stem cells is that really is that a clone well if you create more stem cells you know what this is this is this is something like this is something we're getting a bioethics yeah we need some more actual biology people to explain this better than i can so for a while stem cell research was, they were trying to ban that all together in the United States. Yeah. I think back in like early 2000s, George Bush wanted to ban all stem cell research because he saw that as being an example of life and creating life just so that that life would be used to like in experimentation or to augment somebody else's life. He saw that as playing God. But I, but we moved on. And so there's a lot of, there's a lot of things that

stem cells are currently legal for, correct? Well, like Treemexica. Stem cell. They're legal in China, I believe. Well, China might have already cloned people. I actually think that they injected stem cells into, they inject stem cells into your knee sometimes if you're recovering from ACL. But I think only jumpstart your recovery.

I think it's only overseas. No, don't they do that with, what's the, is it stem cell transplant? it when you get the spine tap when it's like you have to get it from one person like i sign up for it like bone marrow transplants isn't that stem cells i'm one of them like i have you have a spinal tap no like i signed up to be a bone marrow transplant if i if they ever find a match like i'm in a registry somewhere i i do know stem cell uh treatment is a cancer treatment as well but isn't that like isn't that what it is the bone marrow isn't that stem cells or i being so dumb is that different I think there's definitely stem cells in bone marrow.

Yeah, I'm not sure. I signed up for that too. Yeah, I signed up to be a bone marrow donor. Yeah, like my senior year of high school, they're like, take this swab out of your cheek. You know it's kind of bullshit. So I was like looking into a bunch of stuff. And organ donors, like organ donors' families get zero money for the millions of dollars of organs that they're like relative donates. Do you think they should get paid?

Yeah, what? Well, also. Wait, Billy, then you could, then, that would create massive amounts of incentive to murder, to murder your relative and then get their check for all their body parts. No, but the only reason is because, like, hospitals bill thousands of dollars for the transfer. Yeah, it's an insanely complicated procedure. I know, but, like, to put somebody else's heart in it. There's an ethics. Do you, so if, like, if, again, PFT is a well-known organ donor.

That's the, yeah, I am. Thank you. Yes, in my Twitter bio. Yeah. This thing from Billy has somehow gone from, like, potential incentive to murder people to, like, now it's at socialized medicine. Yeah. No, I'm just sitting. No, like, there's like, literally, you think that people should be paid.

Let me pull up the article. Let me pull up the article. Well, no, I'm asking about your brain, not the article. Well, no, now he's like, did you know they charge people to put a new heart in you? Yeah. No, they, they charge you full. For the heart. Yeah.

No, no, not for the labor, for the product. You know, because there's a lot of stuff that goes in to harvesting an organ from somebody, whether it's the transportation, which is you have to pay like top dollars sometimes for essentially like a first class flight that has a limited time frame. They have to get the list set up and they have to have the infrastructure in place where they have a list that gets updated where every doctor in America that has the credentials can put patients on the list, remove them from the list. There's upkeep that goes with that.

It's not just as simple as like you die and then somebody just hacks into your body and then you get a new heart. Also, you're the one that's choosing to be an organ donor when you go to the DMV. It's not like your family doing that. Like, again, well-known organ donor, PFT. Thank you.

If he were to die, which I hope he never does, I hope you're immortal. I don't want to live forever. Okay, well. That's fucked up. But then you, like your family doesn't get paid because you chose to be an organ donor. Yeah. So, by the way, the reason why I wanted to raise this was the conversation.

Because this is what I was trying to bring up. People don't want to sign their organ donor card because they believe that their organs are basically getting sold and other people are profiting off of it. That's not it. But that's in their own words, the reason why people will not sign an organ donor card. I'm an organ donor. I will whip out my ID right now. So am I. But like, I just wanted to raise the conversation.

Thank you for raising it. I've got a couple of things here. I don't believe that. Okay, you don't. You were just raising the conversation. He's just playing devil's advocate. Raising the conversation is the at-work equivalent of entertaining clients. You're just raising the conversation?

I saw an article on it and I just wanted to get everyone's... All right. So I got a couple things here. This might be slightly off topic. but I did want to circle back to something that we talked about earlier today. I've heard back from Nick Adams. Shut the fuck up.

Like in the last 30 minutes? Yes. Hi, PFT. Yes. I would be delighted to join you and the boys on macrodosing to discuss my wildly successful Eminem's product. My wildly successful Eminem's boycott.

Let's go. Just let me know the time and we will make it happen. So are we doing this for the live show? I mean, we got to do it. that on the regular podcast. I think we have to, I think we should get him on the live show. Yeah, let's get him a live show. Are we recording that and putting it anywhere? No. We're not. So, well, they are, they did offer to record for us. We could, we should do just that part.

We'll have clips from the show. Okay. That, that deserves to go out to everyone. And we need, we need, we get a lot of M&Ms. I can't do that. Yes. Wait, well, I had M&M's last night. I bought M&M's last night and ate them. We should buy a bunch of Eminem. You just give Eminemes. You just give Eminem's to everybody in attendance and be like I want you guys to throw all these out my white whale let's go wait did he seriously say that yeah

no let's not let's we're not promising let's not make him think that he's gonna walk into the sody all and get pelted with evidence can I tweet that Nick Adams maybe at the last show tomorrow we don't it would no no no no not yet it would be a Zoom can I it be remote don't announce it until

don't don't do anything just yet Okay. I'm going to ask him, though. I'm going to try to... Where does he live? He's in New York right now. We don't know. Well, he was a week ago.

Yeah, he was here. We should have gotten him when he was here. Damn. My worldly successful Eminem's boycott. It was. It was massively successful. The man that took down candy. The Mars Company.

Yeah. Yeah. No goddamn way. He loves you. Listen, Nick is, he's a unique individual. The internet's own, Nick Adams. Do you know things that we don't know? I don't know anything.

Because it feels like he wouldn't like you. I think Nick and I have a certain respect for each other's troll behavior at times. There's two different species of trolls. We don't know. We don't know anything about Nick and what motivates him, honestly. Huh. No idea. It could be Andy Kaufman level deep.

It could be he's just trying to make a name for himself and he's making jokes at the same time. Who knows? Is it Alex Stein deep? I mean, he's even worse. Don't compare Alex Stein to Nick Adams, please. That's an insult to Nick. Yeah, I know.

It really is. Alex Stein just kind of shows up and yells. Nick, there's levels to Nick Adams. He has a purpose. Has Alex Stein ever gotten to M&M to fire all their candies? Don't think so. Wildly successful. Okay.

Also, Billy, I have a hypothetically for you. Sure. Let me restart that. Billy, I have a hypothetical for you. What's up? Hypothetically, Jha Rule doesn't want to fight Billy McFarlane. Would you want to fight Billy McFarlane? Billy versus Billy.

How we have confirmation Ja Rule does not want to fight Billy McFarland I don't want to tell any tales behind the scenes here If Billy wanted to fight you Would you get back into the ring For the people of the Bahamas Dude you fought Jose Konseko

Why would you even hesitate to fight Billy McFarland Because Because You don't have to answer this now Billy's not going to take a dive No no no No, no, no, no.

You don't have, I don't think Billy would ever defraud people out of their hard-earned money. Yeah. Come on. That Billy, that Billy. That Billy. That Billy. This Billy wouldn't. It's just a lot of weekends that I re-spent. No fucking way. Is this the reason why? You don't think Billy McFarland's going to go out drinking with the bros?

No. The thing is committing to a fight is serious. It is. It's a serious endeavor. That's why you don't have. have to answer now. No, but like, uh, if it was for the February 24th, no, no, no, no, I rather. No, it's March 3rd. It would not be for the, for the one that's coming up. What I, no, I, I'm telling you it would not be. It's off the table. No, I, I don't know. It's got to be, I rather train for only a month than three months because then I'd have to start training now.

Because if there's a fight, like, you got to start training right away. Yeah. And I'd rather not train for three months. Okay. We'll talk. I'd rather train for one month. We'll talk about it. If we can make it happen the next one, then 100% because that, like, seriously, where's that, like, yeah. Earned some money for the people of the Bahamas. I get no money.

Oh, well, if you do the right thing, you know. If you're comfortable with stealing the Bahamas. I'm not putting my, ah, fuck. His cut of the pay-per-view can only go to the Bahamas. Billy, I mean, imagine this. Think about this. You defeat Billy McFarland and Rough and Rowdy, right? Right? Yeah. You get a check, a $100,000 check. Yeah. You take that check to the Bahamas.

I'm not, no, he gives his money. I'm not putting my body. Okay. You go, you go to the Hamas. You, you hand deliver a massive check. You impact hundreds of people's lives down there. Maybe you stay for a couple weeks as their guest in the Bahamas. And they treat you like a king because you're the most generous benefactor of the islands that they had in quite some time. No. I want to. to buy a house what if they named an island after you i actually know a plot of land the bahamas that you can buy for 10k build a 20k house boom you have a house in the bahamas do trickle down economics in the bahamas if you buy land in a house then you're investing in the bahamas and you pay them to work no if yeah yeah you have to pay them like well well yeah we're not cheaping out here. Okay. To pay them double what Billy.

Billy McFarlane. Billy McFarlane can give his percentage of the pay-per-view because that's how we get worked down the contract with big names. He can donate that to the Bahamas. If I'm fighting as a mercenary, I need my cash because I'm about

to literally turn myself into a weapon again. And that's not for fucking free. Okay. I mean, and I'll get the job done. Listen, you're here'll be you're well within your rights to want to be paid to do this because I know that you do you will go all in on it like So I understand that we will figure out it is the path of of sanity and reality that gets crossed Yeah I like literally convinced myself into literally committing elder abuse last night last time

Mm-hmm and walking out of that after like you know post nut clarity after going warm mode was like holy shit I just beat up an old man in the ring well I mean he he was a four former American League MVP. I know, but he was literally should have never been in that ring. Okay. Well, I'm just, you shouldn't feel bad about that. You did the right thing. And he got paid, I think. He got paid big time.

Yeah. Yeah. So we'll continue this discussion offline, but it's a possible. Would I kick Billy McFarland's ass for the internet? Like, to like, you know, just see another asshole get his teeth fucking put through his head? Yeah. You would be avenging Bella Hadd. deed's yeah her uh good name that she that she's soiled by posting the orange square promoting

the fight would be like amazing we just all start posting orange squares with like a splatter blood on it yeah the fire rises billy versus billy yeah fire fired ice you'd be ice yeah billy the ice man yeah Kalinsky damn this is what if we had it in the Bahamas dude I would want to

I would the key is doing these quick because I think the fight would just become the next fire fest no no no I'd We were trying to organize like All he has to do is stand up

and I'll put on the show Blink 282 will be there Yeah The next one Creed will be doing the halftime show Is it the next one like February You're 24th? March 3rd, I think.

March 3rd? Okay, that's actually perfect. Okay, well, we'll talk offline. Let's get back to clones. No, no. Back to clones. Five weeks. That's perfect.

If there's one thing that people, the feedback that I've heard about the show that I agree with, it's, um, Billy does a lot of reading and counting things into the microphone online. So we're going to try to break that habit where you're on your computer and you're like, one, two, three, four, six, nine, two, we're going to try to break. That's the only thing that. that I want you to work on this month. Mike Francesa counting the bowl games. Have you seen that clip?

Yeah. One, two, three. Everything else you're doing, Billy is awesome. Let's try to limit the counting into the microphone under your breath. Okay. Okay? Just constructive feedback. 27.

That is constructive feedback. Yeah. 29. So I know very little about clones. Who wants to enlighten me? Billy was about to cook and then we dragged them off topic. I need to work on that. I know about the sheep that was cloned.

Yeah, Dolly. So this is how clones are cloned. Animals are cloned in one of two ways. The first is called embryo-twinning. Scientists first split an embryo and half. Now I'm self-conscious. Am I reading into the mic? Is that allowed?

You're doing great. But what is it allowed? One, two, three, four, five. Try to paraphrase into the mic. Well, you can read. Now I'm self-conscious. Okay, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Read into the mic. Scientists first split an embryo in half. These two halves are then placed in a mother's uterus. Each part of the embryo develops into a unique animal. animal and the two animals share the same genes. The second method is called somatic cell nuclear transfer. Somatic cells are all the cells that make up an organism, but that are not sperm or egg cells. Sperm and egg cells contain only one set of chromosomes, and when they join during fertilization, the mother's chromosomes merge with the fathers. Somatic cells, on the other

hands already contain two full sets of chromosomes. To make a clone, scientists transfer the DNA from an animal's somatic cell into an egg cell that has its nucleus and DNA removed. The egg develops into an embryo that contains the same genes as the cell donor. Then the embryo is implanted into an adult female uterus to grow. That's crazy that you can literally just take an egg and take a somatic cell and basically just put the somatic cell into the egg. And then that's how, like, Dolly was created, the sheep. You can clone your dog for 20K using the same method. I'm out on that.

I'm out on that. Yeah, you don't want to clone your dog. So we have the technology to put a baby billy into a woman. And then, you know, in 30 years, you would be a lot older, but there would be another Billy around your age now that just looks exactly like you. Yep. And interestingly enough. But it's illegal.

Yeah, they've done to primates. They may have already done it in China or Russia. In China, they actually genetically edited two girls to be HIV-resistant. All right. Clap it up for China. Let's go. So the story with that, the guy got arrested. The curing AIDS?

No, basically these two girls were supposed to. They were born to a woman with HIV, and he added their genes to be resistant. resistant to HIV. So he saved their lives. Yeah, but controversial to gene edit. But this cloning, like, it's pretty crazy. So, yeah, I understand that there's some, like, definitely ethical concerns about that. At the same time, I guess the only real issue is, like, are they ready to do it right now?

I think it's... Or, like, I know that in theory they could do it. But if they're practicing on primates and pigs and sheep, my guess is they probably don't have a super high success rate. So for every one sheep that's cloned, there might be like a hundred that die as they're going through the process. And for that reason, they might not be putting it in humans. So it was actually, so there was a group called the Metalipab group that reported to successfully cloning human emberts. in that case from human embryonic cells and making two human embryonic stem cell lines from those cloned embryos. The following year, they reported to having done the same with cells from

adult humans. Other laboratories quickly replicated their work. Matilipov was no fraud. His cloned human embryos were real. Oddly, the secret ingredient that led to his success with humans was adding caffeine to the culture medium. So caffeine caused the success rate of cloning humans. Interesting. Which is pretty weird. There was actually a weird little organization. A group created Clonade, an organization dedicated to cloning humans led by biochemist Bridget

Basileet, the Rayalians, which was the group they called themselves, operate a lab laboratory in Nitro, West Virginia, aimed at human cloning until stopped by the human, the Food and Drug Administration. Undaunted, the clone aid moved its operation to the Bahamas. On December 27, 2002, the group announced that the first clone baby named Eve had been born the day before. By 2004, clone aid claimed to have successfully brought to life 14 human clones. These claims are widely disbelieved in part because clone aid did not allow independent testing of the babies supposedly to protect the privacy

of the babies and their families. Whoa. Bridget Lachshady stuff goes down the Bahamas. Yeah. FtX, Firefest, Pablo Escobar's Drug Island. My trickle-down economics. Yeah, so she's also like a

she's a UFO religion person. Yeah. So the Raylians, they wanted to create a bunch of clones. It's sort of like a cult yeah it sounds like it sounds exactly it sounds very culty i think i just took out the railism oh my god it's the same okay so the railists are the same ones with the conier west symbol whoa yeah look up railism they were the ones we were talking about with uh arian yeah the day oh yeah they have the they have the star david with the swatsick in the middle

and she's also a big part of their movement to combat female genital mutilation. That's a good thing. It's a good thing. The name of that organization is clitorade. Cliterade. Cliterade. I wish we had some dickade.

Okay. You know how many circumcisions occur every year? Billy, I could see you. I could see Billy getting talked into the anti-circumcision army. It's funny. They all wear white suits and then they like splatter red paint on their dicks. walk around it's funny i just you know i'm very anti like 12 year old circumcision which they do in some cultures it's got to be rough no i'm joking about that i just i just find it funny the

people who say like male genital mutilation yeah they're just looking for a cause although i did not i didn't choose this life this life chose me you know i did not consent those quakers man yeah yeah just chop me up no no they did they did not choose this life this life chose me you know i did not consent Those Quakers, man. Yeah. Yeah, just chop me up. No, no, they did. Wait, what are you saying?

I'm saying, like, you don't make that choice if you're a baby. True. Just happens. Yeah, well, I know, like, still in the UK, if you're circumcised, they just, like, assume that you're Jewish. Like, it's not very common that everyone has circumcised there. Yeah. My general rule of thumb is just, like, blend in with the crowd when it comes to dicks. Mm-hmm.

Like, you want to be the, you want your dick to look like normal dicks in where. whatever part of the world that you live in. My mom had to teach me what circumcision was when I was maybe six years old because me and three friends were peeing into the same toilet. And I noticed like one of the guys' dicks looked very different. I was probably like five. And I was like, oh, mom, like, why does my penis look like a mushroom and his looks like a hose?

And then she like tried to explain that they cut off like part of my dick when I was young. And it was like a lot to handle. It's traumatic when you say it like that, yeah. Yeah, because I would have thought, okay, wouldn't his dick be the one that was cut? And they just like shaved around the mushroom to make it like straight. And then she's like, no, well, the mushroom's actually inside the foreskin. And it was a complicated conversation to be having when you're like six. Yeah.

I think she actually drew me a diagram. Oh, man. The foreskin like went up around. She was really honest with you. Yeah. A lot of moms were to just like try to change the subject. Yes, I know. I know.

She had a PowerPoint ready to go. Yep, yeah. I've been waiting for this day. I knew it would come eventually. All right. So, so Billy, cloning. So she claims to have cloned human beings but won't say. Yeah, that was definitely not true.

Okay. Probably not true on that account. But yeah, the technology is there. Thanks to me cloned, they're actually, there's supposed to be a cloned woolly mammoth. in 2024. Okay, so this is... This is what I wanted to talk about because as far as human beings go,

I understand why it might not be a great idea to have human clones running around. That leads itself into all sorts of weird situations where people grow, like billionaires would definitely grow their own clone for like spare parts. You're insinuating that hasn't happened already? Not that we know of.

Not that we're aware. I wouldn't shock me. Some of us know. Elon probably has like, three guys that he just takes their hair or there are people like so in love with themselves that they don't want to just have a kid they just want to clone themselves and raise themselves yeah that that definitely would happen too yeah but i excuse me i like the idea of the extinct species being brought back to life i think that we should if there's any law preventing it any red tape

getting in the way get rid of all that shit right now let's have Jurassic Park why have we not had Jurassic Park yet. It seems like the technology's there, right? Yeah. We've got dino DNA. We've got mosquitoes with Ember. We've got bones. I don't know if they have DNA in them. But we've got, we have dinosaur DNA. Let's just fucking make the dinosaurs. Why, what's been the holdup? Are we saying that because Jurassic Park came out and it was scary and things went wrong because Mr. Hammond wasn't vigilant enough with his security systems? Are we saying that that ruined it for the rest of time? Because I want Jurassic Park before I die. Dinosaurs are a little more tricky because

Woolly mammoths have a close enough ancestor for the implantation to work. Yeah, so they're going to put the clone inside a normal elephant and it's going to grow in there. We don't have anything like a dinosaur. Large like a dinosaur that you could like plant it and have it grow inside. Oh, fuck like fuck us. They don't even need a fucking womb. You can put them in an egg. Yeah, they're eggs, right?

Bro, you could actually hook up an egg. That's how they did in Jurassic Park. You just have to, you could do it. right and they had it underneath like a heat lamp but i don't think they have like a bird close enough to a dinosaur because it's like and plus some dinosaurs are more bird and others like the lizard hip versus bird hip dinosaurs there's a lot more diversity ostrichs are huge you could probably fit a baby dinosaur in there yeah but i think there's more of like a the chromosome matching up type thing whereas like woolly mammoths had the exact like have much more similar relation

to but but basically the reason why this is actually coming to fruitition is that they think that it can help with climate change. Coming to what? Just let it roll. Me and big team look at each other and shared a moment. Well, how do you pronounce that word comes to fruitition? Fruition. There's no tea in the middle.

Well, there's not two T's. He was thinking fruit like comes to fruitition. Growing. It gets ripe. Yeah. Fruition. Yeah. It's fine.

One T. I wasn't going to stop you. I wasn't. I was going to let Billy cook. Go back to cook. fruition comes to whatever so they're making it so the the mammoths can push over trees in the tundra and somehow cool the earth so yeah then I thought the whole the earth was heating up because we were cutting down too many trees no no no no bring back there's

too many trees in the in the arctic something like that shit it does sound like a plan that like Billy would actually create himself for how to solve global warming. Look, I don't need to bring back mammoths so that they'll just, so that they'll get pissed off and knock over every tree. I don't know. I don't care. I don't care how the fuck these guys get secure the funding to make these mammoths. Yeah. Let's just start making these fucking.

Yeah. I agree. Make mammoths. Make Jurassic Park. You can do Jurassic Park. Tell me like, okay, we're talking about going back to the moon. Who gives a shit about the moon? Yeah, let's do something we haven't done.

There's a reason why we saw the moon. we said nice place to visit don't really I'm going to give it one star on Yelp it's not great not a lot going on where should Jurassic Park be so it's in some like conservatory in the north that they're planning to do

this so they can test the difference mammoth park though yeah mammoth park would have to be up north in Canada yeah the the mammoth exclusion zone and the mammoth inclusion zone I've got my difference I haven't answer to Louisiana.

So mine is a woolly mammots. The dinosaurs. Oh yes. Yeah. Dinosaurus should live in Louisiana. Jurassic Park. Yeah. Jurassic Park gives me Dubai vibes. That's something they'd put in Dubai. Okay. Yeah. No, no. Here's what would happen. They would build Jurassic Park somewhere else and they'd have mammoth or not mammoth, but like dino breeders and things like that. And then the richest shakes would all purchase their own like T-Rex. And so they'd have like one T-Rex that they kept in their backyard or whatever.

I don't know that they do a full-on like park over there. It's more for like private use. You probably see some crazy like WhatsApp Android video of the T-Rex eating a goat and all these dudes being like oh, that was so cool.

Yeah. They probably introduced Raptors into Yellowstone. That'd be sick. No. Having Raptors just rolling around. You think we could breed like many T-rexes so that you could eventually put it in your purse? you have them as pets

Parasylum I bet they could create dinosaur laying like a basically a very fancy chicken but that's a dinosaur same size same egg laying ability

but like maybe eats grass I would for sure have a mini T-Rex I'd better be cute like the size of a chihuahua Yoshi yeah imagine a hen house yeah imagine a hen house

filled with like tiny iguanadons that like lay like chickens that would actually sell because people love like like people love fancy chickens like the very rare and exotic yeah no you guys think i'm crazy there's many people with different exotic chickens that are just like not your run-of-the-mill chickens i usually used to have some easter eggers myself which lay blue and greenish eggs depending on if they're half like uh rhode island red there's some cool giant chickens no you know seriously there's chickens there's like different breeds of dogs.

There's different breeds of chickens. Very cool. Yeah, yeah. That's a fluffy, I know what that's called. You know who's Aaron Ripkowski owns those. Oh, really? Yeah. We used to talk about that. We used to game.

Oh, that's right. Yeah, and he was talking to you about the hawk that got your chickens, and he had one that got. Yeah, his got killed too. Yeah, nice. I'm all in on the Jurassic Park idea. There would definitely be like a flashy, smaller boutique Jurassic Park outside Vegas. probably take a day trip there maybe in the Grand Canyon

that would be sick keep them in the Grand Canyon you don't be adorable a little like corgi-sized triceratops that would be how cute would that be wow

I want to snuggle no but that it's gonna stab your ankles running around alright you file them down sand down the horns I think though I can't wait

till the mammoth population becomes way too big and then they have to start controlling the population in North Portland And then they're like, oh, well, now we have to create saber-tooth tigers to control the mammoth population because the earth's cooling too fast. I mean, that would be a major come up for polar bears if woolly mammoths just started rolling around. Polar bears would eat like kings.

They'd start coming in. I mean, the thing is actually, they probably would be fascinating because polar bears, right? They're solid. Yeah. They would probably start to hunt in packs. I know. But they'd have to first learn how to get along with each other because they're not like bears aren't pack animals. right they like their solo hunters that's why they got so big but if they i mean or you just see polar

bears let's say polar bears like just get bigger to hunt these mammoths yeah over time yeah i just think i think we need to do i'm willing to press pause on titanic two if it means that we can do Jurassic park in real life i'm i will commit my entire focus i'll commit all my energy into doing Jurassic Park. I think that this is like a million dollar idea. Apparently, we don't have enough DNA to make

that happen yet. For what? We don't have enough dinosaur. Yeah, dinosaur DNA I can see. Mammoth, I mean, the guy who sent Donnie and I off into the East River, that guy's eaten mammoth meat. Oh, wait. He did say that. Yeah, so

there's tons of mammoth DNA. Literally, they just need the funding. That's wild They're saying 2024 Yeah no The mammoth will happen I'm wondering how we can find more dinosaur DNA

Like I don't know I would have to just be perfectly preserved Feathers I don't know No mosquitoes trapped in the ember That can give you a little It says you need billions

Of DNA's building blocks Base pairs But all of the dinosaur DNA They've harvested so far only of 250 base pairs. I need to talk to a scientist. Yeah. Can we book a scientist on the show?

Just any? Well, like a dinosaur scientist. A paleontologist? Or geneticist? Yeah. That's the... Let me check my list. A geneticist.

So I do know we have the technology now that if you're having a kid, you can choose whether it's a boy or a girl if you pay 15K. it's something i'm not going to do yeah i think it's like 15 or 20k i would i would never do it but you do see those families where a guy has like six daughters and just keeps on having kids because he wants that boy like at that point i'd be like all right just pay the 15k and yeah and have your boy and stop having kids it's crazy because that's cheaper your wife that's cheaper than cloning the dog yeah 15 k seems like 15 20k or something you're just like yeah they modifying genetics.

I think they just spin the sperm. Once the egg has been fertilized, I think they have to take it out and then they just make a couple slight adjustments and put it back in. Yeah, but that could go real, that could go real bad, real fast. Donnie, you were talking to, well, you spent a lot of time in China. They had the one child policy for a while. Yes. And that was very heavily skewed towards people wanted boys.

Yeah. Are there, is it like a big sausage fest over in China right now? Is it like 60% dudes? Yeah, it is. But I think their larger problem is that it's mostly older people now and that there's not going to be enough young people there to kind of fill all the jobs and keep their economy running. I don't think it's anything crazy, but, well, a problem is, is that a lot of girls there too, they will only marry someone who is either the same or a higher economic status. I'm sure that's the case with some girls in the U.S. too. but then that leads to like there's a lot of poor Chinese guys that have zero options

and there's a lot of like rich Chinese woman that have zero options. Oh, like that one billionaire's daughter that fights was trying to marry. Remember her? No, he was there was a billionaire. Japanese. There's a billionaire. I thought it was China. Was it Japan?

Yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. Or no, was that the prime minister? like a million dollars yeah I think it was like her dad was like if you if you take my daughter's virginity I'll pay you a million it's there was a billionaire that's like I need my daughter to get married but she's a lesbian she doesn't like guys but if if there's a guy out there that can convince her that she's straight I will pay that guy millions of dollars and you will be in my will

and be part of my family and I'm a billionaire and so there were like thousands and thousands of people that submitted videos trying to date this woman and fights was one of those I think his selling point was like, I like Taylor Swift. Oh, man. And I don't have a lot of body here. And a lot of people said that he looks like a lesbian. Yeah. Yeah. So people have said that. Yeah.

We were all wrong. It was neither China or Japan. It was Hong Kong. All right. Well, China would say that I was right. Yeah. But us Americans would not. But there is a story about actually a billionaire's daughter in Japan married a common person.

That's what I was thinking of. Oh, that's sweet. Yeah. Yeah. It's a Disney. Modern day Aladdin. Yeah. So back to cloning.

Do fucking Jurassic Park. Come on. Get off your ass science. So since cloning is possible, they think that a bunch of, like, there's a conspiracy about a bunch of celebrities being cloned. And the craziest recent one

was people think that Tamara Hamlin is actually dead and they've cloned his body. All right. Too soon. Yeah. I'm just Also that's not how cloning works I know I know

Yeah people really jumped quickly Yeah you're right If we cloned him it would have to be a It would be a baby Damar Hamlin and that wouldn't be for another nine months Yeah 30 years from now he shows up to a playoff game Let's do it guys do it for me I'm feeling better

It was it was alarming even for the internet How quickly lots of people jumped to the This is Not Demar Take like I don't know where that, I don't know who started it, who ground zero, where, what corner of the internet it grew from? Because it certainly, it came from somewhere. I just don't know who it was.

I think it definitely came from 4chan trolling people. It might have. That's the place where a lot of this comes from. I mean, to be fair, you couldn't see his face at all. And it was like very dark. It was snowy. He had the mask pulled up. But it's like a new thing where people see something that could be very easily explained

away from, I don't know, any hundreds of possible explanations. for why he didn't want cameras in his face to it being like he's dead Roger Goodell hired a body double and he had him speak to the team and everybody on the team is keeping their mouth shut about it

definitely because the thing is that style to the lay person might be like why is he covering his whole face but the shiasty has been popularized in regular wear

ever since the pandemic started it's actually become a problem in like inner city schools where instead of wearing a mask a lot of kids my uh my buddy's father uh is a teacher and he said like all these kids are just rolling up in schistis and like pickens uh george pickens was wearing in the draft so it is a style choice that's been like happening yeah but um i think for the record i think it was probably tomorrow i think i don't think it was a clone i think it was probably that's just my take i mean the one thing where i was like huh was when they're like, if this guy has a bunch of broken ribs,

then how can he raise his arms above his head? You can still raise your arms if you have broken ribs. Hmm. So. Hmm. No. So I know. He just,

he couldn't make it to the game. And then so they sent someone just to be like, he's there supporting. Yeah. I got a random DMs that was speculating that. I was like, okay. But yeah.

Not a clone because we don't have that technology. But a B.O.B. Well, we, well, we tell you. B-O-B has been big on the celebrity cloning scandals. And the thing is, the list of people who get usually lumped into that, usually they end up going away from the public spotlight for a little and coming back and being, looking vastly different because there's a big chunk of time and people are like, that can't be them.

Avril Levine is one of them. Yeah, I believe that one. That one's got some legs. New Avril looks nothing like old Avril. so i wish we had jack mac here because uh several years ago there was a show on twitch called the jack mac conspiracy hour great show uh and i joined him for one that happened to be the averil levin episode and so we went through all the the earlobes are different the face looks different that all that classic surgery um possible well that doesn't change your earlobes but in anyway all of

that stuff is is what it is but there's a um a pizza place in Averill Levine's hometown that she went to all the time and ordered, I forget what the exact pizza was, but they eventually named that pizza for her. It's like her thing. So, allegedly, the new Averill shows up at this pizza shop, and the owner is like, oh, great to see you. Like, it's been so long, whatever. And the woman acts like she has no idea who this guy is and doesn't seem to know her order. Like, he's like, you want your, like, your pizza, right?

And she's like, oh, yeah, sure. So, um, so Jack Mack called this pizza shop. Interesting. Um, and eventually got to talk to this guy and was like, hey, laid out what, why he was calling the guys like, I can't speak about this and hung up. So I believe Avril Levine is dead. So do you think maybe he didn't want to talk to Jack Mack because he's gotten calls from bunch of weirdos talking about Avrilavine before?

There was some worry in his voice that someone was getting too close to the truth Was pressure, got it, yeah. So let's say you're working at a pizza place And you're like once a month, maybe once every three months You get a guy calling about that You wouldn't fuck with him? This guy sounded like we were close.

I'm starting to buy it a little bit. Oh my God, don't call me here. So here it's just saying that she showed back up And then said she no longer likes the toppings on her pizza. maybe that's what it was so that could just be i mean people change she could just have different tastes now you this seems like a gross pizza oh well because it has green olives i just don't like olives on my pizza at all but so it started out the rumors started out on a brazilian blog yeah it was called averil estab morta which means averil is dead and there was a buzzfeed reporter

named ryan broderick who tweeted it out and then he wrote about it And he said, oh, yeah, by the way, the opening line of the original blog post on Avril Estab Morta says that it's a hoax, that the theory is a hoax and that the blog was created to show how conspiracy theories can look true. So massive success, massive dub on the part of Avril Estab Morta. But on the other hand, Big T, if she actually was a clone, wouldn't the best thing be? to write a blog saying, I'm only writing this blog and creating this theory to show how crazy conspiracy theories can spread and then go on to claim that she's a clone, but doing it as a hoax. That to me would be the best way to throw people off this entire. You're saying hide in plain sight. I'm saying hide and plain sight. You have somebody write the blog who's kind of

crazy. And then you can be like, look at this crazy person and says everyone's a clone. I mean, what a nut job. But so then you're saying you believe that it's a clone. Yeah, I'm saying like this would be the perfect way to do it. I don't hate that. I don't hate that. I mean, conspiracy theory was coined after the JFK assassination when Johnson put together that panel to investigate it. That's when the term was coined. Really? Huh. It seems to me. And that turned out to be true. There was a, yeah, 2003 is when they say that Avril died. And that it was right after let go came out. banger of an album and then in the follow-up album under my skin there's a lot of subliminal

messaging but again this gets back to the whole it's not possible to clone somebody that's your same age thing that we just went through with tomorrow well it doesn't necessarily have to have been a clone it could be someone who already i thought i remember at one point uh i forget how the the new averil it wasn't like a blood relative or something but they knew that there was someone out there who looked like her or something. Yeah, the person that allegedly filled in was named Melissa Vandela. Body doubles, I believe, are used quite often, especially by very famous people. Yeah, a lot of world leaders use them.

Oh, yeah. I think Kim Jong-un had several body doubles. Oh, yeah. He probably has like 20. I don't ask, you know, I don't believe, how do they get people that fat in North Korea? If you're not Kim Jong-un. Oh, he probably has a fat farm somewhere. Yeah.

Yeah. Here you go, piggies. He grows them. Eat up, get fattered. This one doesn't look fat enough. And then one gets too fat and they bring it. And then he gets insulted. He's like, you think I look like that? And then he kills the guy that got the guy too fat. I like North Korea 101. You know, what's funny is that all these cloning conspiracies all date back to the Beatles. And Paul is dead. Yeah.

That was the OG that they think, I am the walrus played backwards, just kept saying, Paul is dead. Paul is dead and they think the Abbey Road cover was actually a funeral possession. Yeah, I like those Beatles theories. Yeah. Paul is dead and that they replaced him with somebody. Yeah. And Life had even a magazine cover that came out that said Paul is still with us. Didn't he recently almost get hit by a car trying to recreate the Abbey Road cover?

Yep. Which is, it's very funny because I think that happens to people all the time. They don't look where they're going crossing Abbey Road. road and like the locals get mad at him for trying to recreate this in this case it was mccarthy uh or mccartney and he was crossing and the car almost hit him imagine being if you were the driver of the car that like killed paul mccartney as he was crossing abbey road tough that'd be that'd be tough to explain away but at the same time it's like you're you're part of the beatles lore forever yeah and you're if it was involuntary manner

and slaughtered, probably not going to jail for life. Yeah, I mean, if it was just accidental. It's probably on him, on Paul for not looking both ways, right? Yeah. Well, no, because they're in the crosswalk. You're screwed. They're on a crosswalk. So in China, it's actually quite common that if a very rich person gets convicted of a crime,

they will hire a body double to go to prison for him and they get paid a set price. It's so common in China, they have a term for it, Ding Zui, meaning substitute criminal. isn't who the hell is signing up for that job like very poor people that like barely even have enough to feed themselves and stuff they know they're getting paid and they're going to be in a prison where at least they're getting food and a place to sleep every night isn't there also the thing where uh if people run over someone in a car they'll make sure to back up over them and kill them because it's better than the civil penalty of them suiting them yeah that's that that has happened

happened um because they're like a lot of times in china someone will kind of jump in front of a car and try to sue you for all that you're worth um or they'll like they'll get bumped by a car lightly uh-huh and say if they already have a lot of medical problems they'll then like flop on the ground and make you pay for all of their medical problems even though they just went up and like they pretty much ran into your car so they just try to because I saw some crazy CCTV videos of these Chinese like people like super nice cars in China running over someone and then immediately backing up over them and running over them again and it's just like what the hell am I watching yeah I've seen that it's it's rough I actually gotten a motorcycle accident once there

her I was on a moped and that was my first thought after I ran into her I was like I'm screwed she's going to take me for all I'm worth and that was not the case she was a very nice woman and I paid her $30 for, like, the broken rearview mirror, and she left. Oh. So, you locked out. Dodged a bullet there. One of the most famous body doubles of all time, the stunt man on the mask. You seen that picture where it's the mask and the stunt double for Cameron Diaz next to actually Jim Carrey and Cameron Diaz?

Yeah. That's the smocking. Yeah, that's where that comes true. That's the smocking guy. Yeah. It's very funny if you look up the mask stunt double. It looks absolutely nothing like the actual mask. That was such a weird movie.

Doubles. It is cool how in Hollywood, I think like some people are very tight with their stunt doubles. I know that was kind of the premise of the movie Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I was just going to say that. I think it actually happens. Oh yeah.

I think you probably, you'd probably bro out. Yeah. imagine do you think it'd be it'd be tough to be brad pitt level famous yeah but i think it would be they don't leave their yeah a little bit but it's far outweighed by the benefits is it far far outweighed yeah well you're not getting to be a normal person ever again i think it would be tougher to be like shack level famous because shack can't hide who he is brad pit if he wears the right stuff and he's in the right place he could hide who he is.

Yeah. I could have walked past Brad Pitt on the way to work. I wouldn't have known. You need the correlation between like the money and the fame being equal. You know what I'm saying? Or the money being more than the fame is probably the way to go. I mean, Brad Pitt's money is certainly commensurate with this level of thing. But then you move like a rich person and then you're not seeing people who are, you know, get a fanboy.

Yeah. You like. Yeah. I guess, like, PFT, if you walk into a sports bar in New York, you probably know there's going to be at least one person coming up to you. But if you were like, hey, I'm really not trying to talk to anyone, you could go to like a non-sports bar, maybe like an artsy type place, and there's a good chance no one would come up to you.

What I used to do would, I would just like put a hat on, pull my hair back, and then not wear sunglasses. Yeah, and then they have no idea. And then nobody had no idea. No one had any idea. And now that's harder to do. Yeah. Also, in the pandemic, where it was actually perfect because I could cover up just from my nose down to my chin.

And that's all that anybody saw of my face anyways. So they had no idea what my eyes looked like at the time. So if I was just like wearing a mask, it was like, I'm golden. There was some super famous person, like either wrote a blog or tweeted and it was like, I just went food shopping for the first time in years. And it was so refract. Like, she was just running, like, I think this person was putting a mask on and just running around doing errands that like their personal assistant used to do and she was having like the time of their life like Michael Jackson rent it out yeah didn't he rent out a whole

supermarket yeah and then he paid people to be actors that were shopping in the grocery store so he could just experience what it was like that level of fame is rough and when you're at the level of fame that you can't afford to fly private everywhere but you're very famous like Every time you go to the airport, you're going to be mobbed for sure. Yeah. Thoughts and prayers to mom our celebrities. I walked by Steve-O at the airport and some other kids were asking him for a photo. I decided not to bother him.

Nice guy. Yeah. But yeah, he's that level of fame. Like most young people in America know who he is, but he's not rich enough to be flying private wherever he goes. I saw Coolio at an airport one time, RIP Coelio. RIP, yeah. Yeah. I just went up to him and I said, are you Culeo? And he said, yeah. And then I walked away. That was it. I was like 11 years old. Did you say that you were a fan?

No, no. I was nervous. So I was like, excuse me, are you, are you Mr. Culeo? And he was like, yeah. Nice. He was like, he was working at the ticket counter like trying to get something changed on his flight or something. So I, uh, he definitely did not want to be talking to a stranger like me. And so it was just like, okay, see you later. Confirm Cooleo. Who's the most famous person y'all have ever seen? out like in public like not you went to a basketball game and Saul LeBron Do I count like interviewing for part of my take Um

No Okay besides part of my take Most famous person Just out in the wild Oh I have one Jennifer Lawrence Oh yeah In the West Village

I walked past her apartment And she was walking out How do you know it was her apartment Um Because then I googled the address And it popped up as Jennifer Lawrence's new 25 million dollar townhouse Got it

So I put that together It's a good answer Yeah I saw Tom Holland Fairly recently What where I was riding A bike near

Madison Square Park And a guy Walked in the crosswalk In front of me I was stopping I was like That guy's famous And I couldn't pinpoint Who it was in five minutes

There was like that was Tom Holland Oh In China I walked by Zuckerberg. And I was like, you know, that guy looked exactly like Mark Zuckerberg. I was walking with my older brother. And I was telling my brother, hey, we should, we should go back and check to see if that was Zuck. And my brother was like, dude, I don't think that was actually Mark Zuckerberg in Shanghai, China. And if it was, like, I'm not trying to go bother him.

And I was like, dude, I swear to God that was Zuck. And then when I got home, searched on Google and Zuck and his wife were in Shanghai. And apparently they were surrounded by a lot of plain-closed security guards who had like, if I went up and started to hound him for a while, one of those guys would have walked up and just been like stopped talking to him.

Yeah. But it would have been fun to chop it up with Zuck for a little bit. So you know what's the new security thing that plane clothes people around famous people? So you'll notice in like a bunch of pictures. Like if you look up like even Secret Service or Jeff Bezos, you'll see a guy whose right hand is up like this and it's a fake hand because yeah look at they're they're playing clothes but they're wearing like a coat and you'll see a fake hand that's

because they have machine guns that they're holding underneath their coats and the fake hand is just to make it look like they don't have a gun so that people don't get uncomfortable I'll pull up a like so when a machine gun sounds kind of dangerous because like say if someone goes up and tries to attack Bezos in a crowded place and you just open up with a machine gun yeah I don't know that like a fully automatic weapon is a good choice dude look at this you start spraying a crowd Jeff Bezos bodyguards fake arm you'll see a lot of them will have just like a fake hand yeah it's and when like the Secret Service use them too um but like the most intense security

like people with fucking it's like to defend against a drive-by shooting and assassination attempts but when you see the pictures it's very weird it's like what I'm looking at these pictures right now one is just like look his hands are making different grips

that can't be the same person's two hands no the ones that are like this and they're just holding it I'll show you more it's definitely a thing who's the most famous person you've seen Billy um like seen

out and about? Yeah, in public. I've actually seen like randomly. Yeah. I saw Mitch, no, not Cam, Mitch from Modern Family?

Yeah. Okay. Ginger guy? Yeah. I was No, Mitch is the bigger guy. No, no, I saw Camp.

No, Mitch is the ginger. Mitch is the gymmer. Cam's the bigger guy. Yeah, he was running and jogging, and I was jogging, and he was jogging the other way, and I just, like, saw him, and I just pointed at him, and I just kept running. That's cool. That's sweet.

That's a good point. I like that. I was like, because I was like, I wasn't going to stop running, but I was like, oh, yeah. And then he was like, you probably appreciated that, just like the acknowledgement. Oh, my God, I'm so dumb. I did a spin class with Donald Glover over the summer. Oh, yeah, there you go. Yeah, that too.

What about you? I haven't really ran into too many famous people. I have a really hard time living that. I really, like, just. You're friends with all of them. Dremont Green saw him after the Floyd Mayweather fight. He was walking out. Seeing them in the wild is only what counts.

Well, I mean, he was walking down the street in Las Vegas. Yeah, but that's like you're at an event. Las Vegas doesn't count. Okay. No, no, but like outside of an arena, like seeing an athlete, like when they put an athlete on a Jumbotron in like a sports game that doesn't count like seeing

I was walking down the street next to Draymond Green we sat a section over from Aaron Judge the other night yeah but like that doesn't count okay uh in New Orleans at a blackjack table Charlie Whitehurst came up and sat next to me that's fucking sick who's that he was a backup quarterback for a lot of teams the Titans he's a legend

um I don't really oh no holy fuck i saw david beckham once where i was when i was really younger i uh i was in central park at a playground and this kid was kicking a soccer ball and i was like yo can i play and i was kicking a soccer ball and it was his son and uh my mom my mom was there and she was like the whole time was happening she was like oh my god like that's like because my mom's like Who the hell is my little kid walking up to and playing with? And he was like, oh, my God, that's David Beckham.

And then once someone realized who it was, everyone just, like, mobbed him. Yeah. And then he kind of left, kind of felt bad. Yeah, you starred that. I didn't really start it. I didn't even know who it was. I was just playing. I was kicking with this kid.

I just remembered Ed Shearin. Oh, yeah. I peed next to Ed Shearin. He couldn't pee. Are you guys the same height? No, I'm taller than. Okay. Good question.

Good question. Good question. I towered over Ed. I looked down at Ed and he couldn't pee and a little scared yeah tiny little scared ginger penis

okay that's what I thought yeah Dom have I ever told that show that story to you no I don't think I've I've heard that have you really haven't

no oh wow you checked out his dick at the urinal so no I didn't check out his dick it's kind of weird bro there's a divider 2015

I'm at serious XM radio recording an episode of podcast that I was doing at the time called the steam room solo pfts and i go to use bathroom ed sharon happens to be in serious xm radio doing a publicity tour he comes to the bathroom we're at urinals next to each other we go in the bathroom at essentially the same time uh he is to my right i unzit my pants i start pissing like huge huge piss like a fire hose it's just like so much volume i don't ever think that i've pissed

that assertively before our sense and Ed's there and he's just waiting and he can't pee he's squeezing he's doing the thing where he spits into the urinal you know trying to get some Oh I've never tried that A lot of guys spit into the urinal it's weird

It's weird thing I don't know why but it happens very frequently So I wrap up and I'm like well I'm done pissing like that was a good pee on my part put my hog away go over to the sink wash up Ed's at the urinal and he just zips up and walks away without even peeing he was like it's not going to happen i got

dominated so yeah i don't i don't know if i've told that story before i've been dominated before at the urinal it's not a good feeling it's not but it feels good to dominate ed shern yes yes it feels good to dominate someone at the urinal it does he was really short he was like five four it's great one one of these days i want to rematch against it i want to give him the opportunity to have a rematch to pee next to me he's definitely popped up on the list of people doing a press store to interview we should get him we should bring him back into the office and i will i will go to the bathroom with him film you guys and i'll give him a redemption shot whoever can pee first no i won't even pee i'll just i want to give ed the chance to to to make up for what he's done in the past

i wouldn't be like i'll let you in ed and then like you both are standing there and you just start peeing and just like got you got you yeah he'd be traumatized yeah open invite to add to come pee next to me anyways more cloning stuff billy getting more clone facts

they thought Eminem got cloned but he just went to rehab okay that's kind of a big one they thought Gucci main got cloned went to prison a lot of people just change in healthy ways and people like that's a clone they lose weight yeah

yeah I guess a lot of people think you can clone people like they did in that movie duplicity is that what it was called multiplicity multiplicity yeah but it doesn't work like that um it should that would be cool just to make a nah yeah that be i like the idea of doing what you were saying in china what's it what's the name of that uh substitute criminal substitute criminal yeah that is great and maybe what's going pay off the prison too just to like look the other way but yeah what's the going rate it sounds like this one person got a substitute criminal for like 30 dollars a day which that's not bad it's like task grabbing maybe it was like a 30 day stint like something quick um yeah that's only 11 grand a year

how do they wait let's wait wait what how would you ever get caught doing that um did Ooh, wait, let's see I've got a great business model How could you get caught? I mean, I assume the prison guards just kind of have to turn the other cheek and just have to be like, all right. But if you get somebody that looks enough like you,

how would they go about proving that it's not like if you don't have DNA on file? I don't know about that. 11 grand a year to not go to prison is maybe the greatest deal in the history of deals. Yes. It's great. Well, yeah, it says a substitute criminal can be hired for as little as $31 per day.

So that's the minimum. I'm sure some people charge more. That's probably for like, what's the conversion? Like, what's the, how far can $30 stretch you in China? Let's say you get a good one, $100 a day, $36 grand a year to not go to prison. Still the greatest deal in the history of deals. Yeah. Yeah, I'd say so.

36 grand? Absolutely. I mean, for you, that's nothing. Right. It's one paycheck. Yeah, I would just. Half a paycheck. Come on, big T.

Come on, man. 36 grand to, now, you'd have to be in some bad financial streets to accept 36 grand to go to prison. Yeah. I wonder if there are some homeless people that, like, would accept it. Because in prison, you get free health care, free food, a free bed. So I guess it really depends. on what prison you're going to, but I'm sure there are some prisons

where homeless people would be like, yeah, there are homeless people that even purposely commit crimes so they can be put in prison. You see those random videos and it's very obvious, the guy just like shatters a store window and he just like waits around.

He's like, sorry, I need to go to prison. Yeah. Yeah. The free healthcare thing is wild because there are some criminals in prison for heinous crimes and some people, some law-abiding citizens outside of jail

can't afford the health care, but then this dude who committed a heinous crime like is getting it all taken care of that's kind of fucked up I don't know I don't know how you solve that but stop crime make crime illegal or do you just like

if the crime's really bad do you just let the prisoner die yeah self-assisted to it instead of like spending millions on their treatment Harvey Weinstein died in prison No, he's still alive, I think.

He's still alive, okay. I remember he was in horrible health. Didn't he get COVID too? Yeah, I kind of thought. I think everybody's just crossing their fingers like, come on, COVID, come on, COVID. Yeah. Oh, Harvey Dubb. He still hasn't admitted anything, right?

He still says that he's been set up. Yeah, they haven't. It's just a lot of people talking about the shape of his cock. Yeah, that's actually worse than prison. Now America just knows that your cock's fucked up. Yeah. Didn't they say, like, the words that they used to describe it? Oh, it was horrible.

It sounded like you were reading a Stephen King novel. I know. It was bad. It was like he just got lumpy, lumpy sores. Mishapen. No, I think they compared it to like a type of food, some type of food. But I don't like, I don't know if we need to look up exactly what it. Oh, his penis looked like it had been chopped off and sewn back on.

Oh, you, but the thing is, I feel like you have to be that screwed up to, like, do those, the amount of actions he did, you know? Yeah, of course. Not that it justifies it, but like, okay, that's why he's a monster. He's got some mental stuff going on, for sure. Yeah. All right, we got anything else we want to get into today? Was Jennifer Lawrence Getting with Harvey Weinstein?

I wouldn't say like getting with I don't think that's the right I don't think that's the right molested by her once Weren't they cool I think Well look I mean Brad Pitt like one time Tried to beat the shit out of him

And kicked him out of a party Was that because he molested Oh no that's not Jennifer Lawrence That's Jennifer Joey Yeah Jennifer Anniston Speaking of Jennifer

She Jennifer wants filed a lawsuit against him So I think she's a victim of his Okay I'm trying to She knows she there No dude okay yeah yeah I got the story wrong Very sorry It was a rumor that went around

That She denied And then she filed a lawsuit Yes so she Okay so she yeah She said she knew him but people were yeah making rumors out oh my god i would be interested uh on a future episode if someone listening to this has had their dog cloned call into the show because i want to know

like if the dog ends up acting exactly like your old dog yeah i don't think that it would i think it would just like it's a matter of how you raise you so obviously there's some like behavioral stuff where some dogs are like more prone to anger or whatever But for the most part, I feel like it's, it's how they're raised. It's nurture over nature. That's their soul. If you saw the movie three identical strangers, did you ever see that? Yes.

Wild movie, three identical triplets were each adopted by different families. One was lower class, one middle, one upper class. And this was done as a science experiment, which is super fucked up. But the crazy thing, when they all met later on, two of them met, randomly at college. They ended up going to the same college and then they found out they had a third. They started talking and they all wrestled in high school. So they were all high school wrestlers. They all liked the same music. They all like the same food, which makes you think, yeah, maybe it's not all nurture. Maybe you just naturally like some things. Yeah, we did that on

part of my take during the pandemic. The identical strangers. Yeah, didn't we review it? I remember I watched it. I don't know if we reviewed it. We reviewed it on the show. that was back when we were doing a movies on Fridays or whatever yeah yeah it's uh it's crazy the guy shows up to college and everyone's like oh what's up welcome back he's like this is weird yeah because his brother had been super popular there like the semester before yeah's twin brother but he didn't know that he had a twin brother they were like yeah and he's creating the adoption agency conducted a study and apparently the results of the study are like locked for the next 30 50 years something like that yeah um

Which I don't know why the parents can't, like, sue just to have that. And they met the mother, their mother, who had the same. Oh, yeah. No, I think it found out that that guy had been doing that experiment to like a lot of other groups of twins and triplets too. But they like, he had all like the names of who he was doing it with locked up. And that that couldn't be revealed until they had all died. So not for another 70, 80 years. So that means there could be some other.

twins out there that just don't know they're twins and i think one of them was that one of the brothers unfortunately completed suicide and the mother also did the mother or the mother had bad and that was like another scary part of the study because then the other two twins were like what the fuck the other two triplets definitely recommend the doc though it's good it's very good all right uh well we will see some of you guys tomorrow night at sony hall And if you want to potentially see Nick Adams. He's not going to be in person, I don't think. Now it's tonight if you're listening to.

It's tonight, Thursday. I don't know if Nick's actually going to show up, but he says that he's interested. So we'll get involved. We'll be in the Nick Adams business shortly. And please go to the part of my take YouTube and watch the Superfan documentary, Kansas City. If it doesn't get over 100K views,

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