Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Futurism
Episode Date: January 4, 2022On today's episode of Macrodosing, the crew is back from break to talk about anything and everything on futurism. Also, the Tennessee Minute caught fire, as Big T talks about one of the crazier bowl g...ames anyone's ever seen, and how it was BS (to him of course). All of this and more on today's show.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing
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Welcome back to macrodosing.
We're back in studio.
I love it.
I miss seeing some of you guys face-to-face.
I miss seeing Arian and Coley on the big screen TV.
And then we got Mad Dog here, too.
So it's me, Mad Dog, Billy, Big T, Coley, Arian.
Avery is on assignment right now, so he'll be back next week.
and so we miss him right now
but it'll be a good episode
I promise I hope
there's a lot of stuff that we have to get into
because it was a long break
first of all how's everybody doing
good
that was
vibes need to be picked up a little bit here right now
right off the bat my vibes are high
today's my first day as a full-time employee
congratulations all right
let's start out
all right mad dog cut out everything that I said before that
so we can start out with that
vibes at an all-time high right now.
Everyone's buzzing in the studio.
Arian, how was your break?
I saw that you were very active in the fireworks department.
Yeah, man.
Yeah, we got it.
We got a cracking.
So we went, I had never bought fireworks before.
So I went, I was driving.
I was just going down the street to pick some eggs up or something like that.
And I saw one of them like stands where they sell fireworks.
And I was like, fuck it.
Why not?
And so I went there and I had no idea where I was like, yo, what do I get?
He's like, I got you, man.
This dude pulled out like the magnet card of fucking ultra super duper.
I think it's called Highfalutin.
Like, so this junk called the highfalutin where it just goes off for like a minute.
And it's like the big Jones.
Like you can see them shit's like across the city.
It shows fire.
And man, we just got like, I probably got like $1,500 worth the shit.
Texas is so awesome.
You can just buy, you can buy anything in Texas except for weed.
It's like you can, you can buy something that can, you can almost blow up the moon, but you can't smoke mids.
Yeah.
It's tough.
Coley, how is your vacation?
It was all right.
I throw out my back Christmas Eve.
So I've been immobile, which sucks.
You don't, your back shouldn't be so vital to the rest of you.
It's really kind of fucked.
Like, I can't lift my legs.
like bending down hurts standing up hurts walking i need to get like momentum into yeah to keep
walking at the back has far too much power agreed and you can tell as you're getting out of bed in
the morning what kind of day it's going to be too like the very first motion that you make it's like
oh going to be a shitty day we should get you on these stretches that big cat put me on because
i fucked up my back earlier this year for the first time and it limited everything that i could do
I was just, I was kind of incapacitated.
The first time I messed up my back, which was always, I knew growing up, I was going to have a bad back.
Like, gravity is, and I'm sure Big T, you probably had these thoughts as well.
Like, gravity is not on our side being this large.
And I, when I moved back to Boston, I moved like all of my heavy-ass furniture by myself.
And I was on the wrong side of 30 to be doing.
that so that took me out um and so it's just been a fight i i i texted big cat and rome the
first time it happened i know they're both bad back guys um and that so i do the stretches but
i'm at a point where i'm in such bad shape like the stretches aren't even working yet like i have to
do the stretches for two weeks before they could even like take hold yeah yeah i fractured a little a little
a little i was going to say a little tip for anybody out there the majority of back and
issue come from not having a strong core. So the stronger your core is, the better your back
problems. I had back surgery, um, 2013. And I was letting y'all know out there, man. Core is the key
to back, um, health. Yeah, what kind of surgeries you get?
At 5S1, I had a slipped disc, herniated disc, I think. I'm gonna fucking hurt. I once fractured my back,
my L5 vertebrae.
your back out it was the worst thing ever because i everybody i went to said that i was just
needed to stretch my hamstrings and then i wasn't stretching enough and then i was finally like
went to i was like i need something's wrong with my back got like x-rayed had a fracture in my back
it was the worst thing ever because you really couldn't do anything did you have to wear like one of those
corset like braces no no by the time i'd figured it out and got an x-ray it had healed but
but was just like the it was kind of herniate like there was a lot of inflammation around it so I just had to you know stretch you know ice compress it was the worst thing ever it was like right when I was growing super fast freshman year of high school and it fucked me up for like so many sports I'm kind of with you that I don't really trust when a doctor tells me that the the best thing that I should do is to stretch it took me a long time to to figure out like okay maybe let's just give it a try for this.
back injury and see if it works. It actually did. But that's the only reason that it took me so long
to get around to it is because usually when doctors tell you you need to stretch more, it doesn't
really do shit. Like I did, I did physical therapy one time when I tore my groin and they said
this is the only way that you're going to be able to get it back to normal. And so I started to do
like these little stretches, didn't do shit. Only thing that helps with like a sports hernia or whatever
that was on my like it was like a strange strained thigh or whatever only thing that helps on
that is just like give it eight months and then I'll get back to normal like eight months without
fucking with it at all but yeah stretching is usually a crock of shit but it it helps out with
the back for sure also shout out billy because billy's taking care of me in the new year
billy is our nutritionist now and he he has me on this new blend of workout supplements
and so far I'm buzzing a little bit so whatever
actually you know what that's probably just the zen that i put into the green tea i've got i've got a
zen in there marinating like it's a tea bag seriously yeah you should try it that's fucked up
it's no it's probably good for you what is a zen it's uh synthetic chewing tobacco yeah
what jewel is to cigarettes zen is to dip huh that's the best way you're drinking tobacco
no i'm drinking nicotine there's a difference yeah
it's healthy because there's no tobacco in it is it i we'll find out we'll find out by the end of this
episode um what about you big tea you had a you had an interesting brick didn't you did i well i mean
i i'm surprised that you're not in jail right now oh i there is a jail right next to nson
stadium i think it might be a juvenile correctional facility i don't know but it uh that really
sucked yeah yeah of course we're talking about the the tennessee peru ballgame i i went
live on Twitter for the end of regulation when we missed the 56 yard field go after using no
timeouts. And I'm glad I didn't go live again for overtime because I would have possibly said
something that would have put my employment in jeopardy. That's that's a stretch there. That means
like I was upset. I was very upset. It takes a lot to get I honestly. I mean, I'm I'm joking
I honestly was so in shock. I didn't really like yell or anything. I just kind of stood there.
and I was like just looking at the board like what are we what are we talking is a touchdown
it's the most blatant it's I think you're prone to hyperbole in situations like that
especially when it's your team I think it's the worst call I've ever seen explain what happened
for the listeners at home it was fourth and goal from the one yard line at overtime Tennessee's uh
runs a stretch play to the right the running back gets hit by two guys right at the goal line
keeps moving his feet forward lands on top of the guy stretches the ball across the goal line for a
touchdown whistle doesn't blow until after he's in the end zone
But the ref goes to the one yard line and he's marking the play dead.
And everybody's like, what are you what are you talking about?
He's clearly I mean, like there was no debate if he was in the inside or not.
He was a yard into it.
And he was like, yeah, well, we deemed that his forward progress was stopped.
Yeah.
Didn't blow the whistle, but they decided that.
And they were like, yeah, you can't review that.
So they pretended to review it, by the way.
Somebody told somebody at ESPN that like for appearances sake, they pretended to review it.
But it's not a reviewable play.
In the moment, I knew exactly what.
happened. When I saw the ref running over, waving his hands above his head, saying the ball's down
at the one, I knew in that instant what was about to happen to big team, what was about to happen
the game. Because I've seen that call before, which is once the referee decides somewhere in
his brain that the plays over, it doesn't matter when the whistle blows. The referee can always
just be like, no, I had already decided that the forward progress had stopped. You could make an
argument, by the way, about whether or not his forward progress had stopped. I don't think that it had
because he was still moving and it certainly went forward it certainly hadn't stopped any more than
Purdue's long-ass touchdown that they had oh my god earlier in the game when he was wrapped up by like
three guys but tennessee should have finished that play no they should have absolutely but if that's
not then what are we what are we talking yeah it was um it was it was a heinous call i thought that big
t was going to commit certain scott peterson like crimes on the closest official credit to you guys
i didn't see anybody throw any mustard there were a couple people who started i was like y'all please
No, please stop.
You saw the mustard start to come out of the jackets?
I saw a couple things go.
And I was like, listen, everyone on in the world, it was the number one trend on Twitter.
Everyone in the country was watching this game.
Everyone agrees we got fucked.
Leave it at that.
Don't make this another chance for the cucks of the world.
Oh, Tennessee man.
Yeah, like stay the victim.
Yeah.
Most people kept it in check.
There was one guy behind me.
I love this guy.
I wish I would have called his name.
He, every call, because there had been calls going against us long before that one.
He just kept calling the refs Democrats.
And I was like, man, it's so great to be back home.
Do you think college football landscape wants, like, you guys play Purdue, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, they're really pushing the boilermakers.
Is that what you think?
No, no, no.
I don't think it was a conspiracy.
So these same refs were the ones, do you remember the Miami Duke game four or five years ago
where Miami had a lateral on the last play?
They were down like seven times.
Yeah.
And the refs just let it go.
And they were like, yeah, it's a touchdown.
Same refs.
Who were suspended for that?
Yeah, what? They were, what, Pac-12 refs?
ACC.
ACC?
Yeah, I don't understand.
It was, I do think, I do think you guys took the ball out of Hennon's hands.
I don't understand what we were doing on the last drive of regulation.
But, I mean, you know.
And everybody's like, oh, you could have done 19 things before that.
That call doesn't matter.
Yes, in every game you can do things different.
But the call did matter.
It did.
It did matter.
For sure.
Not even trying to argue that.
But I only watched once I saw people really start talking about it.
I did like watching it I was like that you guys were making it way harder than you needed
yes I don't understand why we were using the clock like with 30 seconds left in the fourth
court like we could have had it be a 45 yard field goal instead of 56 he still almost made
it he's probably I don't know two and a half three yards short yeah it was weird
like that's why this the whole ending of that game is why college football fucking stinks
Purdue didn't have anyone back to try and catch that I didn't understand that either
That probably would have been returned for a kick six.
Of course.
You have nine offensive linemen on the field.
Like the numbers are in your favor if you can return one.
Yeah.
And well, so Big T,
I do appreciate the fact that nobody threw any mustard that we saw.
But there was a little bit of an aftershock to it.
The Sunday night football rules official, Terry McColley, is that his name?
Oh, that guy.
That guy can go fuck a duck.
Yeah.
So he, uh, he tweeted out his explanation behind the ruling.
And then he tweeted right after.
For the first time in my career, I have had to turn off replies on a tweet because Tennessee fans are that bad.
So congratulations.
You've managed to bully Terry McColley off of having replies on his tweets on Twitter for the first time ever, Big Tia.
I hope you're happy.
I actually quoted that tweet.
He said, the whistle is not relevant, which what a statement to make first of all.
You can't say that.
Let's just play the game with no refs, no scoreboard.
We'll just pick a guy out of the crowd after he can decide who wins.
If the whistle doesn't matter.
The whistle's not relevant.
the ruling was his forward progress was stopped short of the goal line it's over at that point
there's nothing replay can do with it i quote i said you know i know his forward progress
wasn't stopped terry because he kept going forward what okay what if i'm i'm just going to play devil's
advocate here what about the people out there that'll say hey big t um his receiver dragged him
over the goal line so that is i'm not saying that they could have called that a penalty they did not
so like that's a whole different issue i didn't know so you can push someone but you can't pull
them. That makes no sense. The Oklahoma game, they never call it. Yeah. When Oklahoma played,
I think it was Kansas this year. I don't remember if it was Rattler Williams, but the quarterback
like dragged his running back like two yards forward and ripped the ball out of his hands and then
kept running and got a first down. Yeah, I saw that too. Like, so no, that's never called. I didn't
even know that was a penalty. It makes no sense if you can push someone but not pull them. Also,
I don't think it really mattered because he was laying on top of the guy and then he reached out
with his own arm. So like either way, that wasn't really, I don't know, whatever. Would it be
legal to just have everybody on the team get around the ball and everybody grabs the ball at the
same time. And then you just have a massive just amoeba of players just inching their way down
the field. I've actually tried to design this play in Madden. Let's go. A thousand times because
in my like middle school brain when Madden there was like in the Madden game, you could design your
own play. And I literally just wanted to like create a circle around the guy with the ball and just
all move forward. But the technology never worked.
It seems super easy to stop, honestly.
So I had no idea what y'all.
I had no idea what y'all are talking about.
So I just looked to play up.
I didn't see it.
And when you slow it down, I see what you're talking about, Big T.
But in real time, that's a tough call to make for that, for the ref.
Because, like, he stops.
Like, he stopped.
But his feet were moving.
They stopped the count.
But it's, it's, it's, as I'm saying, I understand what you're saying.
Like, I think this call could go either way.
forward progress is tough like it's very subjective yeah but on fourth and goal from the one yard
line at overtime you don't i mean also that's what i said he didn't blow the whistle if you listen
to it with sound the whistle comes after he scores they couldn't believe you guys refused to score
he just yeah no i mean yeah it's tough so they so they said it didn't get blown up about
Yeah, and they said it doesn't matter when he blows the whistle.
It's when he determines the play is over.
So you don't have to blow.
That's true.
Which actually happened when the Preds were in the Stanley Cup final
a few years ago, they scored a goal.
And like it looked like the puck had been stopped by the goalie,
but it kept trickling and went into the goal.
And the ref didn't blow the whistle, but they had intent to blow.
That was the quote they had.
And that was like, yeah, it doesn't know.
Definitely different, definitely different sport.
But same premise, though, that they didn't blow the whistle,
but because they had intent to that that's,
I find that to be ridiculous, but whatever.
That's such a crock of shit.
You guys got boned.
I was sorry to see that.
It's tough.
It's tough.
I see it both ways, but.
And it was an awesome game until then, too.
No defense.
None.
Whatever.
Tyler was a Instagram live was funny.
Yeah, that was funny.
That wasn't even the best, no defense at game of the weekend.
Like, it quickly got topped by the Rose Bowl.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
The game was awesome, too.
I'm looking up right now, by the way.
Actually, Aaron, here's a fun little thing.
I didn't know this about it.
When you do the bow, when you used to do the bow in the end zone,
ESPN says that you do the bow to show respect to the game of football.
Is that true?
Sure.
Yeah.
It's not to the game of football.
It's like to everything and everybody that's in the moment and the expectations.
experience of the, you know what I mean? So yeah, that's included. So knowing you a little bit,
I had a feeling that that's probably more along the lines of what it meant, but there's an article
on ESPN.com that says, Arian Foster does bow to show respect to the game of football. I thought it
was like, you remember when, when that dude won the Masters a couple years ago? Oh, uh, the Japanese
guy. Was he that Tsuyama? Yeah, and then his caddy bowed to the golf course afterwards to show
respect to the course. I feel like that's
what Arian Foster was doing every time
he scored a football, just paying respect
to the turf. Yeah,
it was more like the overall
essence of
the moment.
Aaron, we haven't
had a chance to talk since
John Madden passed away.
But I wanted to get your take
on, like, did you
ever meet the guy?
Nah, I never met John Madden. But yo, we got
to stop talking about people in general on this show.
Every time we talk about somebody, they fucking die, but it's, it's wild, though.
Or we start talking about people.
We do not care if they survive.
Yeah, we should do more July Maxwell episodes.
I'm with that.
Yeah, she's on.
We need to talk about her, too.
So, yeah, over the break, she was convicted on five out of six counts.
Oh, hold on.
The mayor was about to talk about John Madden.
I don't want to cut that off.
Oh, yeah.
Well, I don't have any, like, stories or anything.
I never met him, but, like, yeah, he's a legend.
John Bannon is like, I don't know that it was like the nostalgia of, like,
I think I said it before on a show, but like of his voice and Pat, the other dude that I think
he died too.
Summerall.
Yeah, some or, yeah.
Those two, like, were just iconic voices in football.
And not to mention he was like a legendary coach and everything that he did.
And his name, his name, that's crazy when your name is just bigger than you are.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's a testament to, you know, kind of.
impact that you had. So, you know, shout out to John Madden. I want to talk to
Arian about something. Aaron, did you see the take that one guy had about Madden in the
video game? Do you know what I'm talking about? Well, as someone who was in the video game, I'm curious
what you think about this. This guy's, it says Dr. Andrew McGregor. I don't know if this guy's a doctor
of what, I don't know what he has a PhD in, but his tweet was, I have lots of opinions. I have
lots of opinions on John Madden. The creation of the Madden video game was not a great development
for the U.S.
It further glamorized violence and dehumanized black athletes,
helping to establish plantation cosplay that has grown worse in the era of fantasy football.
The video game distanced the reality of the violent sport from fans and transform human
behaviors into artificial numbers and simulations.
It glamorized athletes using their name for profits while encouraging fans to disregard
the humanity.
Madden built a digital plantation.
That's a hot take.
Yeah.
Digital plantation.
It's, it was a video game.
I know what he's, I know what he's, yeah, I know what he's getting at.
I don't necessarily disagree with the premise.
Like, we, we absolutely glorify the violence.
Like, so I was, I was, I was dealing with the show over the break.
Like, CTE is a real thing.
Like, we joke about it a lot.
And anytime any football player says anything on, on Twitter or any social media, it's, oh, CTE.
Oh, you know what I mean?
It's like, it's a joke or shit, but like, it's a real thing, right?
Like, not just football players.
There is, it's boxers, it's any, any impact sport.
It's something that we really deal with.
And the glamorization of it is all over the, you know, that jerseys and, like, it's, it's, we love the vital.
We love that shit.
It's big hit.
We love that shit.
But I understand what he's saying, but, I mean, it's just, it's a cultural thing.
Like, we think that's, I guess it's more, do you think it's Madden's fault or is that just football?
Nah, it's not Madden's fault.
I don't think.
I don't think Madden was just scientists and a lad told Muslims we'll fuck with black people.
Nah, I mean, Matt, it came out, he said on air mid-game,
who's old Jim McMahon was concussed.
And there was like 91, and Madden was like,
oh, if the player's got a concussion, he cannot play.
Like, extremely progressive thoughts on concussions for like 91.
But yeah, I mean, I almost feel like that argument makes more sense
for fantasy football than it does for Madden, like where you remove,
like you're actually bidding on people.
Like, I feel like that it's so bad argument.
argument. Don't get me wrong. But if you're going to make it, I feel like it makes more sense for fantasy. Madden. Yeah. I know what he's saying, but I don't think John Madden didn't even do it. No. Love Madden. Huge respect to Madden, but I don't think he was that involved in the video game. It's just his name. Well, he was the commentator at the beginning. But like, I feel like it was just for him. It was like probably his agent or his business manager came to him and said like, they want to use your name for licensing on like he probably thought it was like toys. No, I think he at the beginning, I think he was.
more involved. Obviously, he wasn't like building the engine for like the PS2. He wasn't doing
that. I do I do think he had some say like I wouldn't shock me. He liked to laugh. It's like
the whole ambulance running over players was his idea. Like that wouldn't shock. And you, I think we can
we can confidently say because he knew his football. He probably stuck around at least doing the,
the player evaluations until I'd say at least 2013 because I'm looking at 2012.
Pulled up the Houston Texans depth chart here.
Arian Foster 92 overall in Madden.
91 in speed, 93, and acceleration.
In fact...
Oh, would you stop? Oh, would you stop?
All these numbers are in at least the high 70s.
You were a really, really good player, except catching 69 and route running for Arian Foster 58.
So I just wanted to point those out.
We all know what a football genius John Madden was.
Thank you for showing Aryan such love on every category except for two in your video.
Wait, what were her numbers and what was his numbers in 13?
In 13, let me look it up.
Hang on.
Couldn't have been good.
I think I got hurt that year.
Yeah, that's when I had the back injury.
Oh, okay.
He did.
He showed you a lot of love, though, compared from like your 2000, your 2010.
John Madden individually ranks all the players.
Yeah.
There was a very funny open letter that Ethan Albright sent one time to John Madden because he was the long snapper for the Washington Redskins for a long time.
And he was a pro bowler.
And they gave him, you know, like very high ratings when it came to his, you know, snapping ability.
But then I think his his kick catch ability was like a zero.
I think he actually gave him a zero.
And Ethan Albright was like, wait, are you saying that if a ball came to me, I would stand there and it would hit me in my first.
face and knock me out on the ground cold he's like i'm i've returned a kick on hand steam before it was
and so he he sent that appeal directly to uh to mad and got it taken care of i think they bumped
it up eventually um let's see arian aryan foster next year 96 overall 96 overall
holy shit arian you have a 33 on throw power that's pretty bad
which is super cap i had a better arm than a couple of quarterbacks on the roster my jeet
I used to fuck with that because so, so the, like when, when Katz is doing special teams,
the primary players, like they kind of just did whatever, right?
And so what I would do, what I would go throw with the quarterbacks.
And so they would do like the little rollout shits.
And I would be hitting the targets.
I saw I used to fuck with the quarterbacks coach.
I was like, yo, you got to throw me in.
And I ended up getting, I ended up lobbying.
It took me years, but I ended up lobbying.
So I actually threw a touchdown pass.
It took me years to get that.
I think I remember seeing you throw that touchdown pass.
Yeah.
Do you have that ball?
Fedorowitz.
Nah, I don't have any balls.
Really?
Clip that, yeah.
Not like your first touchdown or anything?
No, I'm not big on memorabilia.
Like, my mom was always kept all that shit.
Like, I don't have.
Did she have them?
I don't, maybe, I don't know.
I don't have, like, anything.
The only thing I have is in my closet I have this in this store where I have all the jerseys
I swapped.
I got some killers.
Yeah, I got some killers, though.
What's the worst jersey that you have?
It's not the worst.
It's that I didn't think enough of it at the time.
I'm not even going to say it.
I'm not going to say it.
No, you already said it's not the worst.
No, no, no, no, no.
I didn't swap with him.
I ain't going to say it because I don't want it to get to him and feel like,
you know what I'm saying?
I just, I left it at a.
another house that I had.
And I just,
I just forgot.
It was like in the garage
and I was like,
oh shit,
I left the jersey.
But I just didn't.
We might believe it.
No,
I'm not even going to say it,
man.
What position was he?
Give us a hint.
How does that work before the game?
Do you talk with your teammates
and you're like after the game?
I want Indomicon.
They're like,
okay,
you're ain't called Domicant.
I'm going to get Megatron.
Or is there,
there's definitely tears.
There's tears.
There's a hierarchy.
Right.
So it's like,
if you're like a pro bowl player,
like perennial polo plan, you can swap with whoever you want to.
Like, because when I was like the first year, like I couldn't swap.
Like, I'd been like, yo, can I get you?
Then I'm like, no.
But like, if they respect you, like, yeah.
So before the game, I'm the reason why I got Charles Woodson was, I asked him before the, like, before the game, I was like, yo, that was he was the one growing up.
Like, you know, Heisman trophy winner, big T, rightfully so, national championship winner is what it is.
But Dre was talking to him after me.
And after the game, Dre was like, you motherfucker.
He's like, Charles was supposed to shoot me.
But he said he already gave it to you.
I was like, damn, that sucks.
This is what it is.
Would you ever, did you see the guy who asked Tom Brady to sign a football for him
after the game yesterday?
Did I see him?
He picked that ball off.
Yes.
He intercepted Tom Brady and took the ball to Tom Brady and asked him to sign it.
Also, shout out.
That's fire.
Which I actually think the fact that he picked it off makes that like okay and cool.
That's fire.
I liked it either.
Even if he didn't, I liked it.
I don't know why people would hate like objectively the best quarterback to ever play.
You're on the Jets.
You've never seen a quarterback remotely this good.
I think it would look different though if it was just somebody.
Objectively.
It's not objective.
Like if you were just a player on the Jets and you were like, Mr. Brady, will you sign this ball?
If he happened.
Like I think that's different.
Well, I think I think Brady views every single jet like that guy and that voice to begin with.
So I don't think he he has no idea.
That's the guy who picked him off.
You know what I mean?
Like he thinks that's what he signed it for.
No, he knows he knows he thinks he remembers all that.
Like you remember about the numbers things.
You can tell that Brady's like a very attention to detail guy.
Like he knows.
I think he'll he'll watch.
He's already watched the film and he's gone, oh, that's the guy who asked me for the autograph.
But in the moment, I think he was just like, oh, another fan on arrival.
there was a weird thing
so keel and cole
was the guy who jumped into the stands
in that Jets game to take the ball out of the
kid's hand yeah it was fucked up
turns out that's not the first time he did that
there was a TikTok going around of him
asking a fan
for the jersey off his back
there's some weird like you know
memorabilia thing going on with keel and Cole
I gotta figure so wait I'm on that case
shout out big Sean
Quigs for figuring that out
okay I appreciate
that too, Billy, but you also just said that it's not the first time that he's jumped into
the stands to try to take a ball back from a five-year-old that had the ball. And then you said
the other time was there was an adult male that wanted his jersey. And they were seen on camera
talking to each other. When I said the first time he does that, I meant try to get memorabilia from
fans in this. Okay. So in the second video, he was trying to get the jersey that the fan was
wearing. Something weird's going on. Okay. I'll figure it out. All right. But he did jump into the stands and
try he tried to strip the ball from a five-year-old that had it in the stands and maybe more
embarrassing he was unable to dislodge the ball and he plays defense right yeah and so he was
not able to what why was he trying to what what was the ball like why was he trying to get
defense he's a receiver oh he's receiver okay but still bad job on his part trying to dislodge the
ball from a five-year-old why was he trying to do that we're not really sure I think he probably
of this show, he heard Billy say it's illegal, and he wanted to make sure that five-year-old
didn't get sued.
Yep.
Thank you, Keeling.
I'm saying it was it like an interception, a touchdown ball?
Yeah, it was.
I think it was a touchdown to Braxton Barrios.
Mm-hmm.
A touchdown in a completely meaningless game.
That had no significance whatsoever.
It meant a lot.
You got to let a kid have it.
Yeah, a five-year-old.
A five-year-old.
Very.
He had been older.
There's one other thing I want to talk about before we get to today's topic, which is the future.
And that one last thing is a project that I think we should consider sending Billy to.
It's Alphacan.
You guys heard of Alphacan?
No.
Everybody do me favor.
Do me favor in Google AlfaCon.
It's a convention.
What radio program did you hear a commercial with it on?
It's on the Internet.
the Deep Web.
AlphaConn 2020.
AlphaCon 2020, February 18th and 19th, Salt Lake City.
That's not the least Alpha City ever.
Be great or be nothing.
You think so?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
So appearing at AlphaCon, Jimmy Rex, you know him, Keaton Hoskins, Jason Harward,
Tim Ballard, Ian Wint, and it's hosted by The Bull.
I'm looking at, who are these men?
This is alpha, right?
They're alphas.
What do you mean?
Who are these guys?
Are they famous?
If you guys send me there, I'm going to come back on the vengeance.
Thamwell, bro.
Who is the bull, bro?
What the fuck is this?
He looks like, he kind of looks like a human pit bull.
Oh, my God, no.
He used to play linebacker for the Texans.
That's who that is.
No.
Tell me what is the premise of the alpha com, bro?
Is this a real thing for her?
Yeah.
Someone photoshopped it and put douche con.
That's funny.
We need to get Billy to AlphaCon to do some investigated.
And it's some serious investigation here.
Oh, now there's some haters on Reddit that are saying, is anybody surprised at AlphaCon is a con.
I guess they're trying to take your money from you.
I doubt that.
I could have seen that coming.
The bull got on skinny jeans, brats.
Look at this.
Yeah, dude.
Oh, my God.
His legs are so skinny.
Is this like trying to make Betas Alps?
Alphas?
I mean.
I think these are sigmas.
Sigma males, that's, that's better, right?
No.
These guys, holy shit.
No, I think Alpha's.
No, Sigma, I think, is the ultimate alpha.
Is it like S tier?
Yes, Sigma is ultimate alpha.
Here's a, they're omegas.
A post on IGN boards from someone who has commented on this website 82,000 times saying anyone else going to AlphaConn
2022.
And he's, he's real excited about it.
So, I feel like I have to, was there a 20,000?
2021 or it's 2020 because if there wasn't I I already don't trust these guys I'll look you want
to see a proven track record of AlphaCon being well I like especially in the face of
a pandemic like if they weren't staring the pandemic in the face and still meeting they're not
true alphas that's like the biggest so I googled AlphaCon 201 and the only thing that comes up
is a gaming convention like an alpha gaming convention okay so I don't think that's
the same thing.
Yeah, this.
I think we should send Billy, but undercover is like an extreme beta, even more extreme
than normal and just have, you can, we just put glasses on them, like what's like?
Yeah, and then he becomes like the hotball and movies.
I'm going to walk with a slouch.
Yeah, have bad posture.
We'll rent you a Prius.
You'll pull up.
Sparries.
Wear sparries.
Spareys are alpha.
Sparries in Nike elite socks.
Alpha.
That's an alpha move.
And like the pink vineyard vineyard vines polo shirt.
No, well, that's too far.
Y'all are describing every SEC fan section.
Oh, we got to talk about, we got to talk about McDowell, man, Antonio Brown.
Yeah.
I thought we were getting there with the CTE talk.
So I thought we were going to do a lot of things.
All right, go ahead, go ahead.
No, I'm just asking, do you know Antonio?
Have you ever met him?
I mean, we just threw ball.
Like, I've never had a conversation with it.
Nah, like a deep one.
I bet say what's up to him.
Did you swap jerseys with him?
No, I swap with Troy Paula that game.
Yeah.
Yeah, so what's your take on?
He's a first battle of Hall of Famer.
He's not going to get in on the first round
because the writers that boat on it are fucking squares.
But he's the first battle Hall of Fame talent.
Like, it is what it is.
So it might be a killjoy to all your jokes y'all want to
get off, but like, you know, my dog, like, something's wrong, right?
Like, I don't know if it's CTE.
I don't know, whatever's the mental health aspect of it.
I don't know if there's a diagnosis, but like, something's wrong with my guy.
Like, and if I don't want to judge, like, but that's what it seems like from the outside.
And so I just, I get the internet culture, like, and everybody throwing jokes and shit, but
it's like, we have two sides, right?
We have one side of like, yo, men don't have the highest rate of suicide.
And we always want to do all this mental health awareness shit.
But like when you see somebody in public breaking down mentally, people just pile on.
And I don't understand how you can have those exact same beliefs.
And so I try to go ahead, go ahead.
If he is having mental issues, which is certainly positive, I'm not denying that, because I don't know.
The Bucks as an organization and Tom Brady specifically are horrible people for just
A, leaving him in New York like that.
He did that at a road game.
He didn't hop in his car and drive home.
He was in a different city.
And B, Tom Brady basically forcing him
because he got up on the podium right after the game
and was saying a lot of this.
You've got to feel bad for him.
He's got all these problems.
Tom Brady's the only person keeping him in football
and out of counseling or whatever help he needs.
The Patriots are the only team that wanted him.
And then the Bucs were the only team not one.
Like Tom Brady's the only reason he's still playing football.
So if he truly does need this help, Tom Brady should be in jail
because he's actively making sure he cannot get help.
The structure of football, though, may have helped him to get help, you know?
It doesn't seem like it based on everything we saw yesterday.
I think Tom Brady is, he looks at his like Antonio Brown reclamation project that he's been on.
You're right, Cole, he's been like a one-man crusade to try to, you know, keep Antonio Brown around
because the guy can still play football.
He's still really fucking good at playing wide receiver.
And he said after the game,
everybody needs to take a moment to be kind to him
and to try to help him out.
That seems like that was Tom Brady's job,
I think in his mind,
he's like, if I can keep Antonio Brown playing football,
that leaves, that gives him something to stay on the straight and narrow for.
And hopefully he won't screw up too much
if he knows that there's an ability to make millions of dollars
and all this and that.
And if it is a mental health issue, which it very well could be,
maybe he needed a little bit more than just, you know, put on a helmet and come out
to score a touchdown.
That'll make you feel better.
Right.
Was it, was it Tom saying, hey, stay on the straight and narrow, it's going to help you out
or it's going to help Tom out?
Right.
But I bet Tom Brady, you know, within the structure, he had him living in his house for a while.
he probably was telling him like making him go see somebody taking the steps to make sure that he wasn't going off the rails he was under his roof he probably had a level of like that like we'll try to keep your career keep you playing football keep you getting paid but also help you get help so that you don't have it it's a pretty big you don't know how to help someone if your idea of help is just hey do everything that i do that's not necessarily help but he's
may have also been like you know we don't know we don't know that we just know what we know and
what we know is he's been actively forcing him to play football my guess is tom birdie was like
okay we're gonna it's gonna be mental health Wednesday so that means no nightshades you can't have
any no tomatoes today you'll feel way better tomorrow yeah glad I could help I mean try this
avocado ice cream it curious yeah I mean that's the other thing with these new age quarterbacks too
they all think and like gronk said it too like everyone thinks they have the cure for CTE like
Russell Wilson was selling those like bread footballs and that bubbly water.
The nanobbles.
Yeah.
Yeah.
These cure it.
When Gronk was retired for that one year, he just kept saying like CBD cures it.
So Tom Brady definitely thinks he can cure CT.
I mean, we've gone 10 minutes now.
We haven't even brought up Vantes perfect.
I honestly, I'm going to be honest, I don't know.
Like when I see, and I have no idea what I'm talking about, I have a little bit because, you know, like, took a site class once.
but I'm just saying like
Antonio Brown gives me more of like Kanye West
I was just going to say that yeah like someone who never played football
then you know like are you saying it's more like personality based than it is
traumatic brain injury like maybe it's contributing I don't think those yeah I don't think
they're mutually exclusive I think he's always been mentally ill and then he played football
for a long time and it made it much worse.
One, he's always, he's always been a divo wide receiver, which has been a staple in football
since why, since they invented the forward pass, which I'm always okay with.
At that, there did seem to be a bit of a shift in how he was acting the second Vontas Berfic broke his head.
Yeah, that was a brutal hit that he had in that one game was at 2015?
It was a while ago, yeah.
Yeah, just on a crossing route, Vontas put his shoulder right into his chin and he,
I mean, he had the fencing response before we even hit the ground on this way down.
So, I mean, we don't know exactly what's going on with Antonio.
There's also a chance that he's just kind of an asshole.
That's another option, too.
He could be just kind of an asshole who's a great wide receiver.
He could have some sort of mental health issue going on.
I think a lot of people are speculating on that just because the body of evidence that we've seen,
it doesn't seem like the actions of somebody who's normal.
But again, we don't know what abnormal means in this case.
that means that he has like a lingering effect from an injury or if it's he's kind of a prick.
The thing is throughout Antonio Brown's, you know, antics, as you may call him, he seems kind of
high motor and almost like happy the whole time.
Having a grand old time.
Yeah, which may make it easier to criticize him.
But if you like, he feels no remorse.
Like for example, if you had Lane Johnson who, you know, has a lot of, uh, admit mental health
issues he's always talking about he's like you know it's very uh his problems cause him to
recede anxiety depression whereas uh Antonio Brown's is super extroverted so I think that's why
it's easier to make fun of Antonio Brown because you know he's just like he's acting like
it's so out wrap out wrap out like you know doing crazy antics that seems sort of to the
outsider that he's like having a great time but maybe you know people just react
differently to those torts of strain.
And I mean, he's also assaulted people like on the record too.
So it's not just that like doing these wacky bits.
Like he's also done like genuinely shitty things.
So that's where it's like, yeah, I have no problem making fun of this guy.
And when he's when he quit during the third quarter, it was objectively funny to see
him like throwing his jersey like taking all of his clothes off on the sideline and throwing
them into the stands.
What was that?
Wasn't there like a movie?
Was it Royal Tenen bombs where one of the tennis playing.
sons quit. And they're like, and I believe he's taken off his shoes on the court and he's
crying. I'm pretty sure. What year did this movie come out? Ah, that's good question.
2000s. I've never heard of this. Yeah, mid two, like, 05 maybe, oh, really? I feel like,
who was that old, too old. It was not a timely reference by any means. No, definitely not. None of
mine are. Oh, one. Who is the, oh one. Okay. Who was the guy that was trying to like stop him from
taking his? Mike Evans. Oh, that was Mike Evans. Like, I feel like it's almost just like a melting pot.
Like at that point, if you've played football for that long
And you've done shitty things like assault people
And you know, you have the Vante perfect hit
Like you have things like that
Like I think it's not one pinpoint
Well, I want to bring this up also
He released a song
Three hours after the game ended
Yesterday. It's kind of a good song
And it's not the worst thing I've ever heard
I was listening to it
And it was kind of like
I was on PlayStation
with my friends and I started playing us and I'm going to say something and my buddy goes
don't say it and I was like it's not that terrible I mean I'm telling you it gives me Kanye vibes
yeah totally that sort of brain that where it's like super creative excellent musician I said that to
say that like he did he play in this like was he planning on quitting in the middle of the game
like to be theatrical being the number one trend I don't hate it so he can release his song yeah
but I don't hate it like I didn't see the song pop up
Oh, I saw the song everywhere.
I bet it had, because he tweeted out.
Let me play the song.
When he was getting a ride from the guy that we interviewed on part of my take, Danny Boy Hustle Hard,
there was one clip that Danny Boy Hustle Hard put out on his Instagram where A.B. was in the background.
You could hear him saying, this is going to make my Instagram, or my, sorry, this is going to make my Netflix series.
So I guess Antonio Brown has a Netflix series.
Or does he?
Or does he?
We don't know.
Is he manifesting?
so many Antonio Brown things have happened in such a short time
and I don't mean 24 hours like last two years
when he got released by the Raiders
he was he remember that black and white video he had
like drone shots over Oakland or Las Vegas
wherever the fuck it was yeah and like the phone call he recorded
like I think he thinks he's in the Truman show
like I think he thinks that's his life I don't think there is a Netflix show
I think he thinks he's in like season how old is he 31 he's in season 31 of
his Netflix show.
Yeah.
I remember when he got that call from Gruden, he was like, it was insane that Antonio
Brown just dropped a trailer for Antonio Brown, where it was his coach calling him up,
begging him to stay on the team trying to work it out.
And it's like, wait, it's like, does John Gruden know that you were recording that?
And that you just put that out online?
He might be the only sane one, actually.
The more I think about it, Antonio Brown is, like, maybe he's just seeing really clearly
and none of us are.
he literally
dismantled
he's the only person
Peyton Manning couldn't do it
the Steelers couldn't do it
the Giants as much as they tried
he's the only person to successfully
break up the Patriots
the only reason Tom Brady's on the bucks
is so he could play with Antonio Brown
it's the only reason he left
if Bill Belichick had kept Antonio
Brown around if he just turned a blind eye
like fucking
what's the name of that coach
Arients?
Yeah Bruce Ariens
If they had just turned to, two weeks ago, Bruce Aaron is like he's a model citizen.
Forget about the vaccination card.
Forget about all these, but model citizen.
You're talking like you actually believe this.
Believe what?
What you're saying?
That Tom Brady would still be playing in New England if they kept Antonio Brown?
The only reason he left was so he could play with Antonio Brown.
You don't believe that.
Why is Antonio Brown on the books?
Well, those two things can be true.
Tom Brady could have been fed up with playing.
in New England and also once he got to Tampa Bay still wanted to play with Antonio Brown.
He didn't have receivers up here.
Like he left so he could play.
He had plenty of, he had Godwin.
He had Evans.
He had O.J. Howard.
Like, he had plenty down there without Antonio.
Like, they did not need Antonio Brown to win the Super Bowl last year.
He went there so he could, he would have gone to any team that also would have taken Antonio
Brown.
They were packaged.
But I think that's the sole reason he left.
I think he wasn't upset ever until we cut Antonio Brown, ever.
And there was a meeting that was held between Robert Kraft, who was very outspoken against signing Antonio Brown in the first place.
He did not want it to happen.
He had a meeting with him before he left.
And he said, I don't know what he said, because I wasn't there, obviously.
But I believe that was his last pitch.
Like, hey, if you bring AB back, like, I need a receiver.
Our receiving core was bad.
If we had drafted Debo over fucking Nikiel Harry, maybe he's still here, too.
I'm not saying we didn't make other mistakes that led to him being fed up.
But when you do have a first ballot Hall of Fame receiver and the twilight of this guy's career, yeah, he needed someone to throw to.
It just happened to be an insane person.
I think it's possible that could have been the last straw.
I don't think there's any way that's the reason he left.
I think if we had kept him, he would still be here, yes.
Okay.
Even with the rest of the receivers not being great.
I think that's slightly different than saying that's like the main.
But I'm saying that we have the choice to keep him.
We did not.
Okay.
I don't find that position.
as egregious as he left because of that.
Perhaps I were not the best,
but my larger point is, yeah,
if we had just kept him around,
Brady doesn't leave for sure,
which I'm shocked more people don't,
so get you know,
like, I was arguing with someone earlier.
They were like,
oh, of course he'll sign with another team.
When he was a free agent before Tampa got him,
no one was calling him other than Tampa,
just so happens to be the team with Bray.
Like, I don't see him getting picked up by some,
maybe Rogers right now,
but I feel like he doesn't want to fuck up
what they have going on.
Like, I don't, I don't think so either.
He showed up a coach.
Like, I think he'll truly be blackballs.
That would be very funny, though, if he did go to Green Bay and just became, like, more Aaron
Rogers than Aaron Rogers is right now.
It's like extremely talented, maybe the best of all time or one of the best at his position.
But he just, he just, he did everything that Aaron Rogers does, except he does it to 15,
as opposed to Aaron Rogers, who just, he'll just, like, lie about getting vaccinated.
and he won't actually produce documents that are forgeries.
Yeah, in a way, that would be the most satisfying of all,
is to just have Aaron Rogers play football with a guy who's just like he is.
But I agree with Aaron Foster that there's probably something going on
that's behind the scenes.
We don't know what it is.
But it's also impossible for us since we don't know
what it is. I don't really know how what the appropriate thing for us to do is to react to it.
Like, I'm going to make a couple jokes, but at the same time, I'm also thinking about the fact
that this is a man who might not be well right now.
That's, I think it's very similar to the Kanye West argument.
Like, you don't know what's up, but something's up.
I know, like, this is why I'm glad Arians back.
When, do you know the Vontas perfect hit on A.B?
yeah yeah so how does like how do players feel about something like that because i think that
really like i don't think i think he was just a diva wide receiver like a prototypical diva
wide receiver before that hit and then i don't know if he's been 100 percent like how do players
feel when like a hit like that happens i think anything that's kind of i think are you thinking
about the dirty one neither were i mean they were both shots to the head i know he hit him twice one was
Either way, there were shots of the head.
Like, I know a lot of guys would be like,
break my legs before you hit me in the head.
Yeah, I mean, if it's in the spirit of playing ball,
nobody cares, you know, but if you're doing dirty shit,
like, it's like, what are you doing, fam?
Like, it's not like a, I don't know.
There's no, there's just no, there's no need.
We all out here for the same purpose.
We out here trying to feed, you know, our families.
Like, there's no reason to go hard for the,
the Baltimore Ravens like you know what I mean
unless you're Bart Scott
and you say like Joe Burroughs got a red dot on him
for the rest of his career do you see that
I did see that rant
I don't know I can't yo cast that
that retire and then get on TV and talk
they're wild to me they say some of the wildest shit
man like I don't know I can't call it that shit was hilarious though
now Bart Scott just seems like an asshole
like I think we can confidently
we can confidently say that he he's kind of a
prick. After everything that you've seen from over the course of his career, he's a great
football player. And I think probably being a little bit crazy and being a little bit of a
dickhead makes you better if you're a linebacker. Yeah. Well, the majority of violence makes you
a great football player, but not a good human, right? It's hard to turn it off sometimes. That makes
sense. You got to be an asshole out there. Yeah. Were you an asshole when you were like past
protection. I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, like, if you watched old film and me just, like, during the game, I was, I will talk the most shit. Like, I'm not a good person on it. It's like a mental switch. Like, I'm, like, they're trying to, they're trying to hurt me, you know? Like, so I put myself in a mindset of like, fuck that. You know, like, this, it's a weird switch or it's like, you're adrenaline, like, it sounds like, it's war out there. So it's like, fuck that. I don't, I'm not a good person on football field.
I never was.
All right.
Well, anything else we want to get into off the top?
Anything that we missed?
RIP Betty White.
I cried.
Legend.
I love her.
She's very funny, very funny.
Seemed like a good person.
Loves animals.
Yep.
She did get mad and cursed by People Magazine.
Did we mention her on the podcast before?
No, I don't think so.
We talked about her in the same sentence.
We talked about John Matt.
I think you can't put on us.
I think as we'll see.
in some of our future
futurism
conversations
that we're not predicting things
and a lot of people
who are predicting things
are just taking the information
at hand and just
well people did that every time
anytime people saw the word
Betty White they're like
oh is she dead
people have done that for 10 years
so like
yeah what happens
when you're on the other side
in 90 yeah yeah she was 99
almost 100 so the people magazine
cover she was on it
a couple weeks ago like last week
was like Betty White turns
a hundred. Yeah, Betty White turns 100. Not so fast, my friend. She, her birthday was going to be late
January, I think. January 17th, I think. Yeah, so she just, what is wrong with you? What's in a Lee Corso on
Betty White's? Yeah. You put on the fucking, I don't even know who we're rivaling. You put on her
head. I had the Betty White, Judy Pence's head, yeah. I had the Betty White head dress thing on. I threw
into the crowd. They all went nuts.
And it's like Helen Mirren
We're going with
Helen Mirren
It was
It's very funny though
The way that it had
I think that Betty would have
Would have kind of appreciated
The irony in the fact that they celebrated
Her 100th birthday
Before she turned 100
Yeah
So
But she was
She was a legend of the game
Very very
Very very first thought
I hope that wasn't her last
conscious thought
Like fucking
People magazine
I was 20
Yeah
I doubt
I doubt her last conscious
I just thought it was People Magazine celebrating her birthday.
She tweeted it out.
She might have.
Yeah, she has like, she had like an Instagram and a Twitter.
I'm highly, highly, highly, highly doubting.
It was run by her.
But like, that is crazy that, like, she was, she posted, like, right before she died.
Mm-hmm.
Being like, thanks People Magazine for honoring my 100th birthday.
They had, I was talking her Instagram after she died.
There was, like, three separate Instagram posts about her 100th birthday before she turned 100.
Yeah, she was.
People were, like, not just people, like, people, like, people in general.
like we're really playing that up only to jinx up.
There's a movement online to just give her the 100th, just like the 13 days.
Yeah, who cares?
We're just giving her the 100.
She's up.
No.
No, come on.
She gets the smuckers jar on the Today show.
Yeah, give her the 100.
She didn't.
She wasn't 100.
What do you, what do you give her a hundred?
She was two weeks away.
We're just going to give her the 100.
This is Kobe Bryant.
Job's not finished.
I. The job wasn't finished.
Bad reference.
What bad?
Just a.
Bad reference.
Why?
It's a bad one.
What do you mean?
Why?
She didn't make it.
He's talking about the press conference, not the helicopter.
Yeah, this has nothing to do with him being dead.
It's just.
People punch that clip all the time.
Jobs not finished.
What's they're going to be happy about?
Is the job finished?
The juju of this conversation is just, I'm going to go ahead and Homer Simpson back away.
I know what Big T was saying, but you, no, I reject, I reject any criticism for that.
There's nothing.
I'm with Big T and I'm against Betty White making it to 100.
All right.
Criticism rejected by Big T.
Let the record state.
Do you want better?
Because you're talking about how she posted right before her death.
Like Herman Kane actually tweeted after he died.
He's still tweeting.
Is he still tweeting?
He's a stream.
Yeah, that guy can't stop tweeting.
That's not like Michael Jackson.
Michael Jackson's still tweeting.
His family's got the account.
He's got an account, I think.
It's crazy.
He got a social media manager running the state.
innocent persons of it innocent do you know you want to talk about somebody that's still tweeting
uh charlie daniels rest in peace um he would tweet every morning some crazy y'all think i'm a
republican go read some of charlie daniel's tweets benghazi ain't going away yeah he would tweet every
morning uh we remember benghazi and a bunch of other shit his family like still tweet i went
and looked this morning i don't want to let me find one that's like not that bad um oh this
morning six hours ago keeping charlie's legacy alive bengazi ain't going away they tweet it every morning
along with several other things uh he's so he's still what he was tweeting is still alive and he's and he's
dead he yeah he died year ago maybe like last summerish who is he was a he wrote devil went down to jordan
he was a country music he also did a great version of rocky top fantastic for the troops it's alive
like a u s o thing mm-hmm that's where when uh when atlanta won the world
series we went out to village tavern we did we put that on on the jukebox like five times in a row
i i haven't told you this i found out maybe two weeks ago that you're the one that played that
yeah we were in village tavern at one in the morning whatever time it was and uh and i had
i'd like finished writing a blog we were drinking having a great time and uh rocky top came on and i was
like holy shit what a night the braves won the world series they're playing rocky top
The Cosmos are smiling on Big D.
It came on a second time immediately after.
It still did not occur to me that there was a jukebox in there.
I found out two weeks ago when I was talking.
I don't remember if it was to Avery or somebody.
And I was like, do you remember like when Rocky Top came on?
Like, that was fucking awesome.
And he was like, you know, PFT did that right?
And I was like, you're shitting me.
I really wish that he had not told you that.
I don't remember if it was him.
Maybe it was Malice.
It was Jake.
Yeah.
Who was with us that night.
So Big T was ascending to the God moment at that point because...
My brain was turned off at that point.
That's also when it looked like New Jersey was going to elect a Republican governor, right?
Oh, yeah. It was the red wave that day.
Jake and I were enjoying the red wave, yeah.
Yeah, the red wave was occurring and the Atlanta Braves were World Series champions and Rocky Top was on.
I remember Big Tee just kept saying everything's coming up, Big Tee tonight.
It was coming up, Big T. It was a great night.
All right. Well, anything else we want to get to about stuff that happened over the break while we were gone?
I don't have COVID anymore.
That's nice.
Maybe.
Maybe.
No, I can, I'm symptom-free.
According to the CDC guidelines, I'm free to be out in public right now.
That's something we can talk about.
Yeah, they keep changing their mind on everything.
The bottom line is I've realized that through this pandemic, nobody really knows anything.
Everyone's always kind of guessing based on what the latest studies came out, you know, like a month ago.
Then we base everything on that.
and then we're very slowly to adapt everything.
But as of right now, they say if you go five days, your symptoms are improving, or they're not there anymore, and I don't feel symptomatic at all, then you're free to go back out in public.
So Omicron, I think it was Omicron that got me.
I think Amicron beat my ass a little bit in this last week.
And I think I just chewed up and spit out Delta when that hit me like three weeks ago.
So I don't know.
My body's like a petri dish.
what what happens when we like the greek alphabet's not
forever infinite like what what are we are we going to go like hurricane names
then we go then we go like kappa kappa gamma also why are we jumping around i feel like because
there is bait there are beta there was a beta that was the original yeah i think we just didn't
hear like until like the i don't know where we does the greek alphabet follow our alphabet like i don't
know the Greek alhubes.
I just know it's alpha beta and omega's last.
Where's Omicron?
Are we like in the middle?
I would assume so.
It's not Omerion.
He wanted to make that very clear.
That was fucking hilarious, though.
And then the quote seat above him was it's exactly what it was me.
That was you.
That's exactly what a variant would say.
That's fucking hilarious.
Amerion variant.
Omnicron is like middle to end.
Okay.
So we're getting close to the end.
Either.
After that is pie.
go to hurricanes or like the last one's just going to kill us all.
I think those are our two options.
No, there was a, I saw an influenza COVID combo.
Oh, that's, yeah.
Yeah, that one's strong.
The pie wave is what's next, though.
I was told only 2,000 people get the flu now.
So I don't know how that's popping up.
Huh.
Who told you that?
The CDC.
Okay.
Yeah, we went from 38 million to 2,000 in a year.
Guys, this one's called hashtag florona.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The flu corona combination.
Sounds like a swim-up bar in Miami.
Yeah, it sounds refreshing.
I want the Florona virus.
Hell yeah.
I also, I did a little bit of, I did my toes into Billy's world a little bit over this break, too, because.
You're on TikTok?
No, I listen to Joe Rogan podcast.
So I wanted to hear.
He was ankle deep in Billy's world.
I wanted to hear where Billy gets his information.
So I feel like now we can speak the same language now that we have the same background on a lot of things.
and uh what you're talking about so i did that i did think the one thing
which episode uh the kook doctor mcculloch is that the one that's like yeah he's like
coop doctor because you don't agree with him no it's not that i don't like i listened to
some of the stuff that he said which made sense and then i also have done a lot of reading on this
guy and uh many of his claims are dubious and he's a big guy that'll like take the data to fit in
whatever his argument is he'll go find one study or one part of it proves this one part of the
thing. So, um, but I, I do think that he brought up a good point, which was we've done a really
a piss poor job in this country of managing people right when they get sick. It's basically,
we've told, we've told America, if you get COVID, uh, just kind of lock yourself in your house
for a while and drink water and then hope that, hope you get better over the course of a week.
And if you can't breathe, then go to the hospital. And that's,
that's kind of how we've managed it. And then once you get to a hospital, they can either
try to give you something or they just say, well, we're going to put you on oxygen or a
ventilator, and you're probably going to be fucked if you're on a ventilator. So we haven't, we haven't
really made any, any headways into how to treat somebody right when they get it to make sure
that it doesn't get to the point where it's bad. And his explanation behind it was the government
focused all their energy on developing the vaccine through Operation Warp Speed that they didn't
want to spend too much time going down the different roads of how to treat something,
which might have been able to save, you know, tens of thousands of lives if you had something
that people could take besides literally, how lazy is our government that it's like, drink
water? That's the best thing that we can have to offer you right now. And I did drink a lot of
water. It did, you know, I turned out fine, but a lot of people that go through it and really get
sick while they're at home, that must be a very scary feeling to just be getting worse and worse and
worse and there's no option that you have besides like trying to put your finger in the air
and guess when you should go to the hospital so one thing that that guy said which i researched because
i really wanted to figure out if it was true he said there was mercenaries in africa destroying
uh supplies of hydrochloroquine and i was like what the hell if that is true if there's hired
mercenaries destroying stockpiles of hydrochloroquine so that more people die and don't get access to
this. I looked it up. I can't find anything on that. So. And also, I feel like that wouldn't be
like a top 10,000 worst thing African mercenaries were doing to the people of Africa. Like that.
I feel like they're robbing them of a lot of other things that they need. This is like Blackwater
type guys going into showing. And like if that was really true, like I'm trying to find any type
of mention of this. I think that we, so when I heard him talk about that, my initial reaction was
there are a lot of conflicts going on in the the continent of africa is a pretty fucking big place i don't know
if you guys know this um because like a lot of the stuff that were taught in school really doesn't
it's like okay well this major event happened in the seventh district outside the basque territory in
spain where we like zoom in really really far and then we're like oh there was also a war in africa
and so they don't really give you any any context but there are a lot of conflicts that go on in the
entire continent of Africa, it would not shock me if through all the attacks and some
of the pillaging and the burning that's done through various groups, they hit like a medicine
factory and burned a medicine factory that happened to also produce hydrochloriclin or whatever
it is. So I don't think it's tough to make the connection of the worldwide shadow government
is trying to keep this miracle drug out of our hands when it could be just like literally
thousands of other explanations, if it is even true at all.
But yeah, it was good to get a little bit of insight into Billy's world.
Well, it's not my, it's, you take stuff with a brain of salt.
A lot of, like there were, like, for example, he said you couldn't catch COVID twice.
And as someone who tested positive for COVID twice, I was like, okay, dude, like, but he also
gave that talk before Omicron really got widespread.
Yeah, I mean, everything changes all the time.
Yeah.
Like the Omicron virus, if you have a vaccination against coronavirus, it's not going to do much to stop you from contracting this at all.
So the vaccine is not effective and it's not super effective in preventing you from getting Omicron.
It has some effect.
And then if you do get sick, it generally helps like it does help if anybody else gets sick after they've been vaccinated.
Yeah.
I saw something where it was like, oh, did you test positive for COVID and you think it's Omicron?
but you don't have like mild zero symptoms like congratulations your vaccine worked like that's
basically the point of it like obviously it sucks that you got like vaccinated and boosted and
you're still getting COVID but like I think a lot of people forget that like the vaccine
wasn't to like totally eradicate the disease like it was well and I know a big T's about to say
certain people were definitely pitching it that way a lot of the beginning in the media a lot of
doctors who you know what guys you know okay see our listeners yeah yeah i mean i mean i know
well you know there's a clip there there's a clip of the one clip i know is rachel maddow saying
if you get the vaccine you cannot contract covid you cannot pass it to another person why
why are you listening to rachel maddo a lot of people do millions why i like i agree with
arian but if there are people with big enough audiences certain put people in that audience
the argument that liberals make against conservatives like getting kicked off Twitter and stuff
like you you don't deserve a platform well if you're saying things like that that turned out
to be flagrantly untrue I would make the argument you don't well you know what guys no one really
predict the future why because that was honest with billy just did was great people really tried
and some people did get it right hold on my g we in the middle of arguing I know we argue about this
every episode some people want to hear that that's nobody wants to hear about the future
to happen in our lives by a lot.
Anyway,
hold on, real quick.
No, first of all, there are varying degrees of misinformation, right?
But if you're going to Rachel Maddow for your science day-to-day,
like, you're doing life wrong.
There are a lot of people who do.
I'm telling them they're getting it wrong.
Like, this is not a source that you should go to to keep you up to date on science.
just not a good source.
Yeah.
I go to Rachel Maddow to get all my updates on Donald Trump's tax returns.
There are dozens of others just like that.
That's the only clip I remember right now.
I'm looking for.
But this is this is a this is a live like the reason, like our society is dumb.
Like it's, I can't say it any other way.
We're literally having these conversations.
There's no way in a sane society we're having a conversation about, well, why can't Rachel
Matt, I'll get me the good information on.
Why are you listening to her or Joe Rogan or any of these cats?
I don't understand this shit.
It should make no sense.
Did you guys see that new movie?
Don't look up.
Yeah, I watched it.
Yeah.
Anyway, good movie.
But I think we can snipe a couple of Rogan's audience that left listening to
Rogan because he just talked about the vaccines all the time and no cool shit that
they like to hear about.
It's for those people.
Welcome home.
Let's talk about the future.
The future.
I love it.
Good segue, Billy.
We appreciate it.
But yeah, we're going to talk about the future.
COVID's going to be in the future.
Yep, sure is.
Sure is.
I don't think it's going away.
I just hope that it's more of this Omicron mid-bullshit.
And we can handle Omicron for a while, I think.
But yeah, the future.
And just making predictions about the future because it's a new year.
I feel like a lot of people have things that they think are going to happen this year,
takes that they want to get out there.
And also there's an entire just cottage industry called
futurism, which is filled with some of the most hilarious people to ever set foot on the
internet and just before the internet too. So, Billy, I know you got tons of facts about
futurism. You want to just walk us through? What is futurism? Since the dawn of time.
This is going to be good. Man has looked to the heavens. No. No, it's actually very
interesting. Since human, you know, beings have written stuff down, since conversation has ever
happened, most things have pointed to the future. And the most successful of our species have been
able to determine what's going to happen in the future in order to make decisions in the now.
When you look at some of these names, you see leaders. You know, the idea of futurism was,
used to be so intertwined with daily activity and political choice that it was the number one driver
of who people wanted to lead them.
You know, the idea of taking information that you currently have
and making correct decisions on that information
in order to have the best outcome
is something that we kind of take for granted.
But many, you know, successful people in our past
have taken that to the next level
in order to make huge decisions that have impacted world history.
Well said.
I think the most successful futurists are the guys that,
like, bought up all the sweet domain names,
back in 1990, 1995, and they just got like,
www.money.com, you know, shit like that.
If you had known how valuable those properties would be even like five,
six years from now.
And now people are always trying to like replicate that.
And you see it happen on every single social media app or website that pops up.
People try to grab those new domain names, like crypto wallets.
A bunch of people are trying to buy like famous people's crypto wallet names,
just hoping that that's going to.
to be the next gold rush to come out there. Those people, I respect the hustle that goes into
that. I mean, you spend like six months on, on like crypto.com, just like filling out tons and
tons and tons of new account pages, just trying to hope that this is going to be one that
strikes gold. Yeah. And looking, you know, we're at a pivotal time where, you know, we are basically
web three is coming around and there are many people who are like at some point the way technology
is progressing and everything is progressing which has gotten exponentially faster since you know centuries
ago web three may sound far fetch now but within the next year it might be even more ingrained
in our society and have some of the impacts that the cell phone had on our lives i got a dumb question
what's web three I was just going to ask what was web two yeah what's web one is web one like the
dot com like bubble or burst web one is Al Gore web two is a phone vented the internet I know
that's not true as the internet as the internet was was starting to develop okay so web
it received funding from the government to help it develop a little bit faster Al Gore was
one of the people who like lobbied for it who lobbied to help this particular program get more funding
then al gore later on his career said took credit for the internet basically yes which is a very
very funny claim to stake okay so was web 2.0 like social media web 1.0 refers to the first stage
of the worldwide web evolution earlier there were only a few content creators in web 1.0 with a majority
of users who are consumers of content personal web pages were common consisting mainly of static pages
host on ISP1. Basically, in Web 1.0, advertisements on websites while surfing the
internet are banned. Also, in Web 1.0, Zero Photo is an online digital photography website
in which users could store, share view, and print digital pictures. Web 1.0 is a content
delivery network. So basically, very basic internet. Now, Web 2.0 refers to the worldwide websites
which highlight user generate content, usability,
introoperability for end users.
Web 2.0 is also called the participative social web.
So isn't like Facebook?
Yeah, so Web 1.0 is like, you know, like.
A space jam website.
Yeah, just the transmission of data that wasn't, you know,
think about HTML error websites.
Okay.
Just like very, it's just words.
Nuts and bolts.
E-bombs world.
Yeah. And now we're in a Web 2.0 where users can share their own content. You know, it's two-dimensional in that there's both uploading and downloading, as opposed to just downloading.
And then is Web 3.0 like the crypto space?
Web 3.0. And like NFTs.
The evolution of web utilization and interaction, which includes altering the web into a database. It enables the upgraduation of the back end of the web after a long time of focus on the front app.
Web 2.0 has mainly been about Ajax tagging another front-end user experience innovation.
Web 3.0 is a term that is used to describe many evolutions of web usage and interaction on several paths.
In this, data isn't owned but instead shared, where services show different views for the same web-dash-same data.
So we have no really idea what we're talking about.
So is Web 3.0 happening yet or no?
Kind of.
It's like, are we on like web, like, are we on like Web like 2.8?
right now.
Yo, I'm going to share this clip, right?
It's a minute long, but it's the most brilliant shit ever, dog.
David Bowie said this shit in 1999.
Oh, yeah, I've seen that.
It's fucking fire.
For those who haven't, it's fucking unreal.
I don't think we've even seen the tip of the iceberg.
I think the potential of what the Internet is going to do to society, both good and bad,
is unimaginable.
I think we're actually on the cusp of something
exhilarating and terrifying.
It's just a tool, though, isn't it?
No, it's not. No.
No, it's an alien life form.
What do you think, I mean, when you think then about...
Is there life on my...
Yes, it's just landed here.
But that's...
It's simply a different delivery system there.
You're arguing about something more profound.
Oh, yeah, I'm talking about
the actual context and the state of content is going to be so different to anything that
we can really envisage at the moment where the interplay between the user and the provider
will be so insipatical. It's going to crush our ideas of what mediums are all about.
Brough, that shit was. Unreal for 1999.
David Bowie's a futurist.
Have you seen the clip of Bill Gates? I think he's on.
like is it Jimmy Kimmel and he's talking about email yeah yeah you know he's talking about
um Conan uh something I think it was met up and David leterman David Letterman he was talking about a baseball game
I think he's talking about a baseball game listening to the baseball game yeah yeah yeah he's like
you'll be able to listen to the baseball game on the internet and David Lerman goes you mean leterman goes
you mean like a radio and everybody goes ha ha ha ha and Bill Gates is like no like it's going to be
like you can do whatever you want and he's like sure well you know it's so funny like hypothetically
in about 10 years,
we're going to look at the people
who are screenshotting NFTs and be like...
No, we're not.
They say that now.
No, we're not.
You say that now.
Like, you're laughing like David Letterman at Bill Gates.
I am laughing.
I am laughing at that shit.
I do want to laugh.
I'm glad you brought them up
because, like, you talk about people
who are bad at calling their shot,
bad at looking into the future.
The NFT people who were open,
much like Betty White herself,
laughing in the face of God,
high stepping.
at the 30 saying, oh, you can't steal these only for them to get stolen immediately.
The thieves are always ahead of the good guy. Like always, they're always going to learn out
to steal shit. If you're paying for your own NFTs back from the guy you robbed you,
you just got robbed by the wallet inspector. That's all that is. Like you're fucking
not up to date on. Yeah. Yeah, the guy lost all his apes. His apes.
All his he's gone. I have no idea what we're talking about.
Is that the guy who makes the ape NFTs? But if someone with a bunch of NFTs, like lost their shit
ton of money, I love it. But the thing is,
Not only did they lose money,
their digital wallet got robbed
and then they paid the robber to get it back.
Oh, you hate to see that.
Yeah, I hate to see it.
But remember, in the real world
at the beginning of ownership law,
there was always those types of disputes.
There's still people stealing real things.
Yeah.
Like, that didn't stop them.
Right.
But hey, I mean, honestly,
you know, people have been looking into the future
and a lot of them make correct assumptions
and some things we take for granted now
but if you look at the people who
at what time they were predicting these things
is actually very fascinating so like
one example that I had was H.G. Wells
so H.G. Wells was a science fiction writer
but he predicted a lot of what we have today
in his a lot of his writings.
The fucking the shit behind Coley, the Simpsons.
He predicted a lot of shit.
Yeah, the Simpsons are crazy.
Nostradamus.
Nostradamus was awesome because he just wrote a bunch of shit that sounded vague enough where it could fit into any scenario and then people just go back and reread through his text and they're like oh yeah he predicted 9-11 that's like that guy there will be a great war in the future that old warfare yeah no I remember that like right after 9-11 happened because I was 16 I believe yeah 16 and everybody was looking for meaning and for reason in those couple weeks after
after the attacks, trying to figure out what the hell is going on with their country, with
their world.
And then Nosredamus blew up all over the internet.
They're like, holy shit, he predicted this because he had one passage that said, like,
two brothers will be torn apart in a fireball in the sky, which could mean, like, literally
anything.
You could make that.
They use that to predict.
They use that same passage.
They applied it to World War I when two brothers tore each other apart in the sky where
like German and English fighter at the time, like,
fighter biplanes were in the sky tearing each other apart.
Mm-hmm.
Like, they applied it to that to predict World War I.
Like, QAnon did the same thing.
They just put vague shit out and then connected it.
Like, you could, like, derive it from a ton of different scenarios if you have.
QNon is so fun, though, no.
Like, I can't.
I got a bitch that shit is fun as hell.
Like, it's just so funny.
It's like, I enjoy it.
Their problem is their predictions that they're making are way too close in
the future. They need to push out the scope a little bit and say this is going to happen
2024, 2025. Instead, these guys in Q&N are like next week, JFK Jr. is going to come back
and he's going to give a speech in Dallas, Texas. We're all going to go to it. Let's
hurry up because seats on the player are going fast. Let's all make sure that we can get hotel
bookings. And then they show up the next week and they're like, fuck, I guess this one was wrong.
too. They need to have a little bit more foresight and to just say, okay, this is going to happen like July 4th. What's the next, I guess it'll be 2025, right? Or 2026 would be the 250th anniversary of the United States founding. They just got to push out to them. Be like July 4th, 2026, that's when JFK Jr. is going to come back and he's going to make all of you guys kings.
but like do they because they just keep getting stronger no matter what their last at bat was like they they go down swinging on three pitches and people just keep showing up yeah it's like a guilty pleasure i can't stop watching that and uh the my pillow guy i can't stop watching this dude like he has not been correct maybe once like he keeps fucking swinging bro he makes a great pillow i slept on a my pillow for the first time over christmas
I might be in the market.
Separate the art from the artist.
I feel like, you know, the My Pillow guy is a recovering addict.
And I have great respect for people in recovery and everything.
But this guy was chasing like a high so badly.
He crafted a pillow that like, like was the best ever.
Change the world.
It might be.
It's a great pillow.
Like you can definitely make the argument after everything that he's done since making it.
That pillow was, it was.
It was so good that it changed the face of American politics.
Literally, the pillow was so, like he had this hole in his, you know, dopamine receptors that was once filled by crack.
And this pillow was the only thing that could hold it.
Yeah.
So think of how awesome that must be to sleep on.
Yeah, it's a great pillow.
This is not a native ad, by the way.
I'm just saying what I've experienced.
No one's knocking the pillow.
So back to future.
I'm in the market for pillows, though, like, but I refuse.
Like, there's no way I can buy this dude's pillow.
But I need a new pillow.
I would go to a vet after me going and try it out.
I would try it out.
Separate the art for the artist on it.
Oh, fuck that dude.
You're an art from the artist.
You're an art from the artist.
You're literally funding his next documentary that even talks to his well, wrong.
No, yeah, no a thousand times.
I don't think this nigga crafted the pillow, bro.
Maybe he has some engineers.
Maybe even if he did, I don't give a shit.
I'm not funding a fuck that.
Fuck that. Fuck his art.
So there was a couple of, I focused on H.G. Wells and Winston Churchill for my guys who made
like insane predictions.
Talk to you about Winston Churchill.
Oh,
Winston Churchill was like his brain was like
say what you want about the guy.
The guy predicted like one he predicted
World War I. He then predicted World War II.
He predicted the Cold War and then
predicted stuff that he had nothing to do with
like lab grown meat.
You know, artificial insemination
breaking the atom.
And also the biggest one was
he predicted
in 1921 he wrote about how there'd be a radical religious extremist terrorism.
And he specifically, you know, today it's kind of weird to sort of figure out how this inhabits,
but basically predicted Islamic extremism and suicide bombing in 1921 before anyone had any idea.
I'll read the exact passage.
Where was he predicting all of this?
Like in speeches?
In the House of Commons, which is.
like parliament where he was serving and some of his takes were so bad it got him voted out of
office so like for example when he was predicting he had a speech called the iron curtain speech
in 1946 where he said uh basically from stettin in the baltic to trice in the adriatic
an iron curtain has descended across the continent basically saying we need to befriend the germans
because we need them in our war against Russia that's soon going to come and basically he got
voted out because everyone was like we just got done with war with Germany why the hell would
be embraced the Germans back into like a European Union and one of the reasons why he got
voted out and he predicted like basically that Russia was going to become this second superpower that
was going to be an access access to the western powers so in you know he basically described
you know in world war one he had served in multiple theaters be it the boar war or other you know
english colonial conquest and he said that the next time two major superpowers in europe meet it's going
to be a war that we have never ever imagined because he saw some of the machine gunning that was
going on the bore wars and it's like this is these are weapons that we have never seen and
when you fight against them for the first time people just get slaughtered yeah because they don't know
how to deal with the fact that they have a gun that can fire, you know, 15 bullets a second.
He, his brain, I mean, this guy woke up drinking brandy.
And if you heard, um, Bert Kreischer's sort of Winston Churchill Day bit where he talks about
just doing what Winston Churchill did regularly in a day, waking, waking up, drinking a ton of
brandy, smoking cigars, eating like a pig.
Like, this guy had a tortured mind.
And he just was dowsing it with alcohol because he knew the future was coming somehow.
like all these sort of predictions.
Well, that's why they voted them back in to take on Hitler because they saw Chamberlain.
They're like, Hitler is so crazy.
And we have kind of a mild manner guy go, we need to, you remember that insane person that
we all thought was completely unfit for office?
That's the only way that we're going to be able to counter Hitler's insanity is to bring
Churchill in because we need to get, we need to get into war mode to borrow a phrase from
Billy football.
And there was a great speech that he gave.
I mean, Churchill had a lot, like, his, his domestic views were pretty fucked up and really shitty for a lot of reasons, but he was what they needed at the time to fight against Hitler.
I think he said in one speech right after they had defeated the German army, I think he said, they told me that if we fought on against the Germans, that England would have our next rung like a chicken, and then he pauses for like five seconds, and he goes, some chicken, some neck.
and then the whole place just goes fucking nuts
and he's like all right see you later I'm out
I'm gonna go drink a shitload of brandy and pass out of my bed now
and I mean but sometimes you just need a crazy guy
that's capable of whipping people into a frenzy
I mean he basically predicted the Iraq war
in before World War one where he discussed that
because we cannot rely on whales for coal
and the modern war being they need like oil
he said that we were going to become so dependent
on oil from the Middle East that it's going to cause
like a definite serious global conflict regarding that basically predicting you could argue
the invasion of Iraq. It didn't take a genius, I don't think, once the United States and
England in particular got involved with just creating the state of Israel and also essentially
getting into bed with the Saudis and saying we're going, we're going to do two things simultaneously.
we're going to create this nation of Israel, and two, we're also just going to be the personal
bodyguards for the Islamic Republic of Saudi Arabia and defend all the oil over there
and enter into a peace treaty with them that's going to last for the next 75 years and be their
military, too, as well as Israel's military.
It doesn't take really a genius to think that maybe those things would lead to a big explosion
of violence in the Middle East.
But he did it.
that now. Yeah. We say that now, but no one had any idea back then. Like, for example, this is
But it's not true to say no one had any idea into this electrical outlet. Like, I bet I get
shocked. Like, is that a prediction or is that just like some shit you're going to do? Right. But
like listen to his speech in 1921 and tell me, I'm not going to. I'm going to just read it right
now. It's like in a speech of the House of Commons. Real quick, real quick. Are you, are you saying
that go go read the speech, read the speech. In a speech to the House of Commons, he spoke of a
militant Islam sect, the Wahhabis, more violent than any in history, which would kill their
own sister for wearing the wrong attire. These fierce zealots, would terrorize the West with
bomb-carrying jihadists who would burn embassies and destroy buildings by their passions to sacrifice
their lives for guarantee of Islam heaven. Winston Churchill, the second, would read his grandfather's
speech to President George W. Bush in the White House in 2007. I mean, that was in 1921.
Yeah, propaganda was alive back then as well. I know, but 80,
years like you got to get that's more exact than those jadamas what what is what is impressive
about this do i'm curious because it literally reads like what we saw 80 years later the guy
predicted tons of stuff what we're saying it's like when you're at the root of the cause it's
pretty easy to see a guy do you think you think he was the only human being that thought that there
was going to be war over natural resources that we were occupying
he was very loud and in a position of power though which i think makes him a little bit
different at least he was saying it when a lot of people that that had the power to say something
weren't another here's some here's some low-key stuff he predicted that like he predicted the onesie
would be invented okay now we're talking he said no oh no there was no onesies
back back in the before world war two he said that they need to create the onesies so
Remember, who is it wearing those, uh, you know the ones that with the thing in the back?
The snuggie?
The flaps.
Yeah, the ass flap.
Yeah, they're like, he conceived of the one piece garment as a leisure suit, but it also proved useful for on the way to and in air raid shelters.
Sol the problem of warmth and propriety when seeking shelter during nighttime air raids.
He was like, we invented under armor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I searched Winston Churchill onesie and he loved wearing him a onesie.
Like, he would wear suits that were just one with a zipper.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Some people say, keep calm, carry on.
He said, we must protect this house.
He said, click clack walking around the streets of London.
He also predicted hydroponic growth, grows.
In a gigantic new resource of power becoming available, food will be produced without recourse to sunlight.
Vast cellars in which artificial radiation is generated,
maybe replace the cornfields or potato patches of the world.
I think he's just piggybacking off of the scientists of the day.
Like, it doesn't sound like he's...
Well, someone had to say it.
Right.
They were.
I think they were saying it.
I think he was just like, yeah, that probably going to happen.
I think it's a Shakespeare, like echoing.
Like echoing.
I don't know enough about Shakespeare to...
I think he was sold things and he was like, yeah, it sounds good.
Like one, for example.
was like, uh, Nikola Tesla. Like, that was, because like, the science of the day, like,
predicts like what's going to like, it's literally what science is based on is prediction, right?
And so like Tesla literally predicted, uh, smartphones. He literally predicted smartphones. He was like
the, uh, you'll be able to talk on a phone that you could fit in your pocket. Like he was,
because he understood the laws, the science and what was capable and what was not capable.
So I think that's what Churchill was doing. I think he was. And that's not a slight, you know,
I mean, I don't know enough about what's your churchill, but I think you're really impressed when I'm a guy.
Well, he, like, lab grown meat.
Like, he said that one day we shall escape the absurdity of growing whole chicken or to eat the breast or wing by growing these parts separately under a suitable medium.
And also, like, he talked about artificial conception, like artificial wounds growing from the children outside of a human.
I mean, it sounds like Churchill, regardless of who his source's word and what he was passing on.
He did a pretty good job.
I said, that's a better track record on futurism that I would have expected from Winston Churchill.
Like breaking an atom.
He just, he talked about it.
Yeah, go on to that one.
Go on to that one.
I'm interested in that one.
So he said, if the hydrogen atoms in a pound of water could be prevailed upon to combine together and form helium,
they would suffice to drive a thousand horsepower engine for a whole year.
The electrons, those tiny pallets of the atomic systems were induced to combine with the nuclei
in the hydrogen of the horsepower liberated
would be 120 times greater still.
Basically, he sort of talked about
how nuclear power might become main place
in the next coming years.
Yeah, I think he was like a big science fan,
which is dope.
You know, he isn't the best guy.
He talked about how he'd want to use this power
to move Ireland into the middle of the Atlantic
and get it farther away from England.
Oh, shit.
you finally sold me and then he had this fucking dr evil oh yeah i mean he was crazy racist
not even just again you was super racist but move even as someone who doesn't love england like that's
very funny yeah but anyway like also like hg wells he predicted how messages would be one day
sent instantly through like texts or emails i mean all these futurists
if they had if they had blast in ireland and it was like next to barbadoes and we just had a bunch of actual chet hankses walking around like that'd be very funny
well there are actually saw a youtube video recently there is a island in the caribbean that has a bunch of
they all have irish accents and they're like afro-caribbean type people but they speak in irish dialect
like collie buds like what let me let me find it never heard a noon minute no it's only his name was
close enough to my like first name was close enough to mine where I was just like what's going on here
Montserrat Irish accents in the Caribbean so in the Irish of Montserrat West Indies where
they're they're just like black guys with Irish access because colonization yeah has to be well
No, it was a mixture of indentured servitudes and African slaves put on one island
and then developing just Irish speaking.
It's kind of like when you watch the video, you sort of get a better vibe of what I'm saying.
I like how even when you're comparing two types of slaves, still the white people get better name.
Like the Irish were in debt.
No, not from you.
I'm not saying that was you.
That's just like what it is.
Like whites were indentured servants and blacks were slaves.
Like that's like why even at that level we're still separating them?
Like what?
I'm going to be right back.
I've got to pee.
Continue the conversation.
There's a there's a part of if we're talking.
I didn't fully understand we were talking about either correct or failed called shots.
But it's right after the new year.
We were talking about science being so predicated.
why 2k you talk about all time swinging a miss
fucking dud bro
holy shit y'all got to explain this to me
I understand the very basic premise
was that we we thought
the computers were just going to like think it was
1900 and then like
why would that okay I have two questions
number one can you give me a little bit more detail
on what like the problem was going to be number two
why would that have mattered
it shows you how far we've come with our basic understanding of what computers are
but these were like the people who were in charge of the computers were like you know we're
not a thousand percent sure we've programmed these things to count to 2000 so it was like
we were basically told like planes we're going to drop from the sky um our all of our
computers were going to like turn on us like it was my my
father filled the bathtub with water in case like society fell and we would need to boil drinking
water for a few like people people were buying up all sorts of canned food people were building
bunkers under their homes in their backyards buying guns it was and aryan's a little older than me so
maybe he remembers some parts i don't it was like they told us at best by circuit city which isn't
around anymore. Like there were signs that were like, hey, shut off your computer before midnight.
Like it just in case, like unplug some stuff. We were told it was the end times. Like the countdown
was going to hit zero and shit was going to go. I don't know if I don't even know if there were
planes flying. If there were, it feels like a pretty big risk given what we were told. Maybe
PFT can elaborate a little bit more because he was there as well. Will you will you give us your insight on
Y2K and what it actually like meant because we were all too young to know so so most most people who
are futurists I think are doing one of two things one are successful futurists one they're trying
to scare somebody and so their predictions will get spread around way way faster if you can make
people afraid of what's of what you're saying is going to happen and then usually they're
also trying to sell something that only they can fix that fear that they're putting in you
I guess they're just good salespeople, but in Y2K, the fear, and it was a great fear that people got to spread around the world because it affected literally everybody, everybody in every facet of their life.
They were just telling you, when the year turns over to January 1st, 2000, nothing in your life is going to work anymore.
Nothing.
Planes won't fly.
Lights won't turn on.
You won't be able to flush your toilet.
You can't shit anymore.
I just don't get why that had.
So because when all these, all the software was programmed for all these utilities and all the things that we use on a day-to-day basis, when they were-
lights, banking systems, government operations, like it was all tied to that.
Yeah, when they, when they were entering in the dates, all the programming language was configured to have two digits for the month, two digits for the date, and then two digits for the year.
so everything like 99 it doesn't get any higher than 99 once it turns over 2000 and those last
two digits are zero zero everything is going to think that it's the day January 1st 1900 but why
does that matter so there actually was a couple minor inconveniences I found so for example a customer
at a New York state video rental store had a bill for 990,000 91,250 the cost
cost of renting the movie, the general's daughter, for 100 years.
There were little things that happened, like payroll software, Berlin's German opera denied,
certain employees government mandated subsidies for families with children.
When the year 2000 arrived, the computer state was 9,900.
This caused a person born in 1995 to appear 95 years old, making the parents ineligible
for the government subsidy.
Like weird things that were all correct.
That's why even how years work?
Like, why would you go from 5 to 9?
You'd be negative 90 years old.
And most of the software glitches were resulted in an attempted last second fix done in haste in that caused massive delays in air transportation all over the East Coast of the United States.
So most of the things that happened were because people trying to correct the bug and then just messing up the original code.
Right, a bug that didn't exist.
They were trying to come up a problem that didn't.
Like my biggest question.
Yes, correct.
My biggest question too is like, what midnight were we basing this off of?
Like, there's 24 of those things.
Like, we, I believe the Eastern Standard Time to be the time of Kings.
But, like, to say that, like, the West Coast is going to fuck around at 9 p.m. their time.
Like, none of it made any fucking sense.
It was very funny.
You love Eastern Time.
I love Eastern Standard Time.
Why?
I love being the first in the country.
Absolute trash.
Central.
Central time is God's time.
They literally.
Central's not bad.
Everything is made around Eastern Time.
Correct.
But, like, for sports, it's the world.
worst.
That's what I love it.
West Coast is the worst for sports.
No,
you don't love,
you don't love the last of a double header getting done at 1 a.m.
You don't love that.
That's what my life.
I've never gone to bad before sports before three.
So it's great for me.
That's the worst.
I think that Big T is absolutely 100% correct.
Central time zone for sports is the best.
Why?
Because it's just that extra hour.
Yeah.
It's perfect.
If it's too early, if you're on the West Coast and the game,
in terms of football like NFL Sunday starts at 10 o'clock that's way too early I've spent
some time that's pretty sweet though that's pretty sweet though it's too especially if you're like in
your 20s and you know you went out the night before you missed the first half of every single game
if you're anything like me and if you like soccer you're completely screwed you don't get to
see anything that's true I don't even know what I don't even know a channel cycles on
I have never watched a second game, though.
But yeah, it's, I think central time zone is the best.
Games start at noon.
They're not over after midnight.
That's always nice.
And then for like basketball and hockey and stuff, it gets over at 1045 instead of midnight.
Yep.
I know, that's what I like about the West Coast is like, you can watch all the games and you still have a day.
You know what I mean?
Like, you can still go do shit.
Like, he's going to chill with your people.
My argument is people in the West Coast don't really even watch sports like that compared to the East Coast.
Well, yeah, y'all are more, probably more diehard.
We have winter, so we have to pass the time with something.
That's fax.
But I don't know.
Brunch rather than rooting for teams.
And I don't care about awards shows, but they're the first thing that's coming to mind.
Anytime they're live here and then they wait three hours to play it on the West Coast,
like that rules out the entire West Coast for me for time zone debate.
that's fair also it's just strange going out to bars on the west coast and there's no sports on tv
right yeah it's trash oh my god yeah you're yeah every time we go out there me and big cat will go out
for dinner go out to like a sports bar and there's just like tv what are we supposed to do like talk
talk to talk to talk about just steven a smith on in the background yeah exactly
like scott van pelt yeah you get sometimes you'll get uh the rerun of a game that happened at a normal
time. And you're like, oh, this game's happening right now at MSG. And it's like, no, that game has
been over for three hours and they're replaying it a second time. Yeah, TNT likes to, after they end
their post game coverage for the late game, they'll just go right into the 8 p.m. game again.
And it's just like, all right, sure. Every year, the final four, the national championship game
starts at like 930 Eastern. And I'm like, what I've said forever. I used to say two things.
I would vote for any presidential candidate who would legalize sports betting. That's happened.
so now that's out.
The other one was anyone who would on day one sign an executive order saying
no sporting event can start after 8.30 p.m. Eastern Time.
If you choose to live somewhere else, that's on you.
But we're not doing this shit anymore.
I've added a third now, and it's anyone who will go back to plastic straws.
I hope the environment's here forever.
I love it.
This paper straw nonsense is getting out of hand.
I can't take it anymore.
I'd vote for Bernie Sanders if he said we're outlawing paper straws in a heartbeat.
He wouldn't be doing that.
No, but he might only because he would attack the actual people who are killing the environment
and not hiding behind straws as if that's making any marginal impact one way or the other.
That's a small impact, but yeah.
What if you just said big T, you get to use plastic straws?
I'm going to get you set up with a straw guy.
I want, I'm sick of it.
I can't handle it anymore.
You go in there and you go to like open it and then you hear the little thing that the pay,
oh, it kills you're doing straw, you're doing straw mandates now.
Everyone has to do.
not everyone has to not everyone if you want to offer paper straws in addition to plastic straws that's fine but everyone has to carry plastic straws correct that's a mandate buddy i've got i i have to show a QR code to go into a bar now we're past that we're past that that that expires by the way on may 14 so that they can mandate you to get the booster which was the plan all along that's part of my future predictions we'll get into that you have to show more to get to a bar than to vote you absolutely do yeah so i was told i was told requiring id was
racist but not to go into a bar shouldn't you yeah it should be pretty easy to vote though right
there should be some some sort of measure in place to make sure we we know what we're doing
just like to make sure everyone's safe and vaccinated if you want to go into a restaurant
we need some sort of measure in place all right we have always had measures in place to go into
restaurants no shirts no shoes no service right yeah but they're not asking you to prove
that you're vaccinated and who you say you are
to prove you at a shirt and shoes.
Correct, but they don't ask you for an ID to prove that.
No.
You don't need a boy without a shirt.
You're either for private enterprise or not, Big T.
Billy asked a good question.
No, no, no.
One is the no shirt thing.
That's fine.
That's a private business.
The vaccine is the government.
No, no, no.
It's the government.
It's not government.
It don't matter.
It's the private businesses institution that they have a rule.
If you don't like the rule.
No, no, no.
One is private.
One is not.
one is by definition inherently not private it's the government so what big t say is that like in
new york the government tells businesses that you have to do this that's not the same oh yeah like
twitter can kick somebody off if they want to that's fine that's their rules that's not the same
as like free speech i i do feel bad though for anybody that's working in a restaurant that they don't
want to have to be dealing with this shit like you're not in the business of of checking people's vaccines
you you got into the business to make money or because maybe a combination of you also like serving
people at restaurants and uh and helping them out being bartenders and so they don't get into
that line of work to to to want to check out same thing with teachers having to enforce the
mask thing and i understand there's evolving science about like whether or not it's transmissible
in the classroom and kids and whether or not like how dangerous that can be um but teachers
don't want to be the mask police that's not what they signed up do they they're sick of this
shit, too.
I got two sisters and my girl, the teacher, so they're sick.
They're all.
But they'd be, they be, they be, they be, they be, they be, they be, they be, they be,
they be, they be, they be, they be, they're forcing kids to go back in schools.
And my sister's, like, deathly afraid of getting the shit.
And so she's just kind of over it.
Yep.
Um, I've, another big example of futurism, by the way, that absolutely, in retrospect, seemed like,
uh, it's one of the most prescient articles that.
came out after 9-11 was Hunter S. Thompson in ESP in the magazine.
So he wrote page two.
Yeah, page two.
You're right.
Page two.
And I think it came out just a couple days after the 9-11 attacks, basically laid out
exactly what was about to happen over the course of the next 20 years.
I think it was the 12th.
Like, I think it was 9-12 when I think he put this out.
Like he was, he was fucking Johnny on the spot with this.
I'm on it.
It doesn't have a date on it.
But it still looks like it was like the website still looks like it's from 2001.
I can't find the day.
It was definitely from the weeks following, if not the days following, the actual attack.
He said, this is going to be a very expensive war and victory is not guaranteed for anyone
and certainly not for anyone as baffled as George W. Bush.
All he knows is that his father started the war a long time ago and that he, the goofy child
president, has been chosen by fate and the global oil industry to finish it now.
He will declare a national security emergency and clamped down hard on everybody no matter where
they live or why if the guilty won't hold up their hands and confess he and the generals will ferret them
out by force good luck he is in for a profoundly difficult job armed as he is with no credible
military intelligence no witnesses and only the ghost of bin laden to blame for the tragedy okay
it is 24 hours later now and we're not getting much information about the five w's of the thing
the numbers out of pentagon are baffling as if military censorship has already been imposed on the
media it is ominous the only news on tv comes from weeping victims and ignorant
speculators and there was one other point in here where he said who we're going to attack and
I'm not finding it right now but he said we're going to oh yeah we're going to punish somebody for
this attack but just who or what will be blown to smithereens it is hard to say maybe Afghanistan
maybe Pakistan or Iraq or possibly all three at once pretty pretty good job looking at the
future on that one but I guess some of the more fun
examples of futurism right now are done by people in the tech industry who like I alluded to earlier
are doing a lot of it just because they have something to sell for the future. So you hear people
just like pointing at, this is the future, that's the future, this is the future. It's usually someone
trying to get you to spend money on something. And 99% of those predictions are going to be wrong.
But some people make it their entire career to just think about what the future is going to be.
I feel like we should dip our toes in that water a little bit and make some predictions of her own.
about the future looking forward from here as it is the first week of january 2022 uh let's go around
the room let's do let's do one year predictions let's start off with that so um billy you want
to get us cook so the year so it's 2023 what do i think's going to happen the next year yep
uh this date 2023 three more boosters no uh that was a joke
not really i mean he's probably right yeah uh i think we're taking everyone i think we're
going to be back this one's hard i have a 10 year i have a 10 year okay i say fuck your one year
let's do your 10 year the one year just say he's going to win the super bowl bill who's
going to be the reigning super bowl champion uh i think what coach
is going to be fired next year on this date?
Oh, that's a good question.
Yeah.
Honestly, no one from any of the bad teams because they're all,
like, I don't think Dave Campbell's fired.
I don't think Robert Sloat.
No?
Sal was fired either.
Okay.
Kevin Stefansky.
How about that?
Goes from coach of the year.
This year, I saw somebody say that Kevin Stifansky was going to be on a hot seat
after the performance this year.
I don't think that's, I think that's, I think that's,
one of the stupidest things I've ever heard
in my life. Like he's got the Browns
competing week in week out on a pretty
decent basis for the Browns. He's built
a good team there. But
if they go like way off the
deep end next year, like if they
go four and 13.
But they might be
first year quarterback next year too.
Yep. So that buys them some time as well.
For sure.
So Billy, give me one
coach.
Or who?
Who does Baker Mayfield play next year?
He said Stifansky.
It's fancy.
I saw a rumor today that the Washington football team should.
A ninth pick?
Yeah, trade the ninth pick for Baker Mayfield.
Fuck it.
Yeah, let's do it.
I like Baker.
You guys have just as bad a quarterback history as the Browns do.
You absolutely should.
I've reached such a point of nihilism with this team where I'm just like,
fuck it.
That sounds fun.
That's what I'm basing all my future decisions off.
That's why I like Taylor Heineke because he was fun.
He sucked sometimes, but other times he was all right,
but you never knew what was going to happen.
He's like quarterback meth.
And so I at least appreciate the entertainment value that came from.
Matt Ryan for Baker,
Mayfield,
and a second round pick who says no?
The Falcons.
Why?
Because like Matt Ryan moving.
A shit ton of money.
Not even just money.
It's the dead cap would like paralyze you guys.
Like you're stuck with Matt Ryan,
friend.
I think it was after this year like it becomes feasible.
I think it's I think I'm because I saw someone talking about today or yesterday rather I think it's next year like it's it's still a lot of dead cat like the NFL salary I fucking hate it like there should be dead cap shouldn't be a thing yeah I still I follow football extremely closely and I still understand maybe 10% of that right it's absurd it's patently absurd it's like like we were last year we couldn't do shit because Tom signed with the bucks like he's a fucking free agent what do you mean we we we have no money because he signed on the like it's so fucking
fucking stupid. All right. So Bill, give me your tenure.
Let me, actually, let me give you a real one year. In the next year, through a combination
of herd immunity and boosters, the vaccine, uh, we see a much more lax COVID. That's more like
the flu less harmful, a lot of like what the flu has done since 1918. And we sort of go back
to normal. That's a very, all right. Let's go. Billy just ended in COVID. Let me give you my one year
then. I think, work.
going into more lockdowns that are far more restrictive in the next i think that'll happen very soon the
next 60 to 90 days we have guns we're not australia and then i also think the third vaccine will become
mandatory to be considered fully vaccinated if not a fourth so like my um my new york state
covid you know your little app you have it has an expiration date of may 14th on it that's been there
since the beginning this was the plan all along they were never stopping it too i'm just saying so what
happens at the expiration date. You got to go get a new one. And in order to get that new one,
you will have to get a third vaccine to get it, or you won't be considered fully vaccinated.
I think once we see the death rates of Omicron, like, because we see it four weeks after it happened,
and let's say it's going to peak, let's say, in next weekend, I think everyone who's
celebrating New Year's Eve is going to contract a bulk of Omicron, a lot of, like, a bunch
of the kids who went to Santa Con contracted it like the week after running up to Christmas.
and then we're going to see a wider view by the end of January or mid-February
what the truly is the death rate is with Omicron and we'll sort of proceed on that data
and then hopefully it all gets better but what do I know all right um Coley give me your
one year I don't know I do disagree with big T saying we're going back in the lockdown
I just see so many people pushing against it, whether or not it's right or wrong.
I have no idea.
But I feel like there's so little support for it.
I just can't imagine it actually happening even.
It sound like while you were saying it, it sounded very, they're coming to take our guns.
Like that's in my mind, that's what it sounds.
Well, they've already done it once and they did a half-ass job of it.
I agree.
They did a half.
People across the board at every level, not even in government, humanity did a half-house job.
that's kind of why I don't see it ever happening again.
Well, but that's a reason, kind of like you said with the first year quarterback thing,
they're like, oh, well, we, we've realized we messed up the first time,
so you've got to give us more time to get it right.
We're going to do it right this time.
Yeah, I think they, I don't think they have any, any poll to pull that off.
You know what I mean?
Like, I don't.
I think on one side, that idea is extremely popular.
I don't think so.
I'm on that side.
I'm telling you it's not.
I saw a tweet today that had, Lord knows how many retweets.
It said, like, oh, don't worry, we're not going to be.
back into lockdown we're just going to normalize dying of COVID like we've normalized dying
from gun violence and listed eight other things you know what the number one long past that yeah
18 to 45 the number one killer was for us for Americans opioid disease opioids which went up
drastically so I did a bunch of reports on the opioid crisis when I was in college which was like
right before the pandemic hit and they were steadily declining overdoses until the pandemic hit and all the
lockdowns, restrictions happened, and they skyrocketed. So, I mean, when you're thinking about how
many, like, if you compare the numbers, like, how many people were losing, like, are we even
considering the numbers that are going up from the lockdowns? Like, if we are considering, like,
the backlash that came from that. If, let's say we have 100 people dying of opioid
overdoses who might have not ages 18 to 45, and we have 100 people that we save in, you know,
from dying of COVID, are we balancing out, like, the total death?
Are those deaths going up because of the lockdowns, though, or are they going up because
fentanyl is being introduced into, like, you know, the off-market pills that are being sold?
But that was happening way before the pandemic.
I feel like fentanyl has more to do it.
Right.
But were they producing more, especially since we withdrew from Afghanistan, are they producing more
with fentanyl backing like all the opioids in Afghanistan don't go to the U.S.
They all go to Europe.
They don't all go to Europe.
10% of hair.
Right. And I'm not talking about just the pure opioids, but what they used to produce them can also get shipped to Canada.
Fentanyl. Fentanyl comes from China.
Right. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about fake opioids.
We're saying that fentanyl has a lot to do with most of the overdoses or not maybe maybe not most, but certainly a threshold.
Fentanyl was here way before. No one's disagreeing with that. They use it in hospitals.
Like, fentanyl's been around, but what I'm saying is because opioids, uh, availability has
gone down and because heroin's availability has gone down, people turn to whatever they can get,
which could be fentanylaced.
Right.
But that was what was causing the spike before the pandemic.
Sure.
The pandemic, a hundred percent caused the spike.
If you look like, you can't, you can't, no, I'm not, I'm not disagreeing with that.
We were saying reasons why it could have also attributed to that and not being able to buy heroin,
which has been reported on, it is very hard to find, which a lot of people do turn to to get off of opioids
or to use after they can't get opioids, it's harder to get, which can turn you to something that can be fentanylase.
Which was not a problem prior to us withdrawing from Afghanistan.
But also during the lockdowns and everything, a lot of people weren't getting treatment.
They weren't going to pick up their...
1,000%.
Yeah. So it compounded the problem.
Right. Yeah. We were saying there's more than one factor at play.
Right. But there is the...
idea like let's say we didn't do anything who would it really have you know are we just
shifting around where where people where younger people are going to die yeah there is the argument
like we have younger people that's not a it's it's not a it's a false equivalence because
it's not opioid epidemics aren't contagious like it's a false like to mitigate a risk of
a contagious disease like what you what you should we should be doing is is dealing with mental
health in a very real way but we're never going to do that uh so you don't have a you don't have a
choice you just don't have a choice in my opinion um i just want to know if the results of like
suicide and overdose that went up during the pandemic and this is a question was it
we saved doing all the lockdowns and, you know, restricted restriction on business on people's
livelihood. I think what you're saying, I could be wrong, but I think what you're saying is,
yeah, people died, but the other people died. And you're saying, you would rather the younger people
not die than the older people. Is that what you're saying? Well, if we kill the right people,
this is this is decisions that I shouldn't have to consider. Politicians should consider this.
there's a lot of people who failed for sure a lot of people who failed like when you look at giving a pop quiz no one was ready for it yeah like when you're mitigating what you know the the larger impact on society as a whole like what exactly is the greater loss so i think we can unequivocally say covid had the greater impact on society than opioids but so far so far so far um arian
One-year prediction.
Just about anything?
Anything.
Man.
I think the Democrats
about to get steamrolled.
That's my prediction.
I think you're probably right.
Yeah.
I think you're probably.
right because you they did it they did a pretty good job for themselves you know they obviously
won the white house but they were running as we're not don't don't trump and it's tougher to run
on the platform of we're not don't trump when don't trump's not in office anymore and so you have to
have this is something the fucking democrats go through this every four years and they always keep
forgetting which is you have to you have to stand for something you have to give people
people something that you promise that you were going to deliver on. And if you don't, the backlash
is going to be way, way, way worse than you ever thought that it could be. So I kind of agree
there. And I feel like as Big T's going to love this, I think that there will be a red wave
next year. I don't even think that's like, I mean, it is certainly a prediction. Like the opposite
could happen. But like there's polling that shows that's going to happen. Like near. I mean,
I want you to want to do. No, no. No. I wasn't saying that is a slight against you in any way.
certainly a prediction as our polls are a prediction but like that's going to happen can we do 10
years rather those are a little more fun yeah wait do you have one a 10 year a one year i gave it
the the lockdown mad dog do you have a one and third vaccine um my one year is just that i think that
elizabeth holmes is going to get off and that she's going to she's going to start another company
and everyone's going to get back into wait you know what she learned from her mistakes the first time around
and Theranos, too, is actually going to work.
I think we'll be right back there in about December of next year.
Her image will have been, like, completely rehabilitated.
And they'll probably even slap on, like, it was actually misogynistic that we blamed
all of Theranos on Elizabeth Holmes.
Let's hear what she has to say.
I'll give you, I'll counter that kind of in terms of women with bad reputations.
Jelaine Maxwell will be dead.
Okay.
No, she's not, her brother said she's not ratting anyone out.
He said that very emboldenedly
But I don't think
Or she gets killed in jail
By like
I like that prediction
I don't know what's going to happen
But I like the
I'm enjoying that
What sucks is that what's happened
Happened nothing else is going to come out
Because the trial's over
I have a quick question
Quick side
About the Jeline Maxwell trial
Why did the
Why did the evidence get sealed?
Because it's
Because it's just like
Investigation
It's...
Is that normal?
Yeah, it didn't pertain.
They basically...
They weren't putting all the Johns
and all the people that were associated with it on trial.
It was a trial specifically of Jeline Maxwell
and what she did and what she didn't do.
And so the way that her judicial system set up
is anything that's not directly relevant
to the crimes that she committed
that they feel like they can prove.
Goes away.
They don't have to, like, release those.
They can seal all those.
And they know they, I think, yes, for sure, a lot of people know what was going on and no names, but they, because of the very narrow scope of the charges that they filed, because if you're a prosecutor, you filed charges against Jelaine because you knew that you had to put her away on something.
She was like public enemy number one. You have to be able to prove something. What can you do? So they just went at a very narrow scope on very specific things that they, they knew that they could be successful with. And everything else, as much.
much as it would be a public benefit, I think, to everyone knowing all the shit that went down.
Right.
Since it's not part of that investigation, they're not going to release it.
They're not, they're unable to release it.
So will they never come out ever?
Probably not.
We'll see, unless there's some leakers, unless there's some whistleblowers.
Yeah.
And, you know, she could have done the thing where she says, okay, I want to reduce my sentence.
I will give you this, this, this, this.
I'll give you names.
Yeah, but she didn't do that.
It'd be sick if she just said, okay, you know what?
I'm going to do a sit down.
60 minutes.
Yeah, just come into my jail cell and we'll do a one-on-one.
I'll name all the names.
I'll literally just name a list.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe the goal is just hope that she gets bored enough in prison where she'll
just take an interview with anybody just so that she can talk to somebody.
I saw a tweet that people think that her team is going to declare mistrial because they say
it was rushed due to COVID.
Can we do the happy like 10 to 30 year?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're all super, super rich in 10.
years.
All right, 10 years.
Yes.
Billy and I have really good credit scores.
Yes.
There we go.
My fucking credit score went down 40 points and I've been paying them all off.
I don't fucking get it.
Is Ben Mint stealing your outbound checks?
He might be.
Ben, Ben, you know.
Bill, let me take this to the post office for you.
Anyway, Ben uses my Wi-Fi.
It's fine.
He walks my dog.
Yeah, so you share an IP address with Ben.
So whatever he's, whatever activities Ben Ments is up to, that points directly at you, Billy.
All your CIA agencies is Billy's deep web dives and then Ben Ments Googling fish tour dates.
Like it's very much in lockstep with one another.
The guy shows up.
Someone would be using this IP address for online poker and owes a million dollars.
Yeah.
It's a you.
no I think that the outcomes of the pandemic there will actually be a lot of progress and a lot of
stuff that's good for the environment that's good for the economy that you have a lot of people
like we talked about the other day about employment moving employment taking you know
different chances allowing the flexibility to you know make choices during the pandemic
to be a little more what's the word you know transition to other things and also one big
thing I think is housing like look at coley cold
lives in Maine and works remotely like I think we're going to have a lot of that where different
economies that were once shut down by population leaving because there was no work are now going
to be places where people move because they know they can work remotely so you may see places
like Detroit like that aren't major population hubs like places that had a lot of people leave
because of jobs leaving might get repopulated like
You know, people are moving to South Carolina, even though it's in the middle of a pandemic because they can work remote.
It's a nicer place to live.
Like one day, you know, I might be living on a ranch in Montana, work blogging, podcasting, you know, chilling with a bunch of animals out there, like, but still, like, reporting to a home base in New York and paying Montana taxes.
Are Montana taxes really good?
Oh, you pay, you pay double taxes, friend.
Oh, you do?
Oh, yeah.
They got you.
so do you pay like new york and main taxes oh yeah it's awesome i feel like every city used to be
built up around where there was a river that's kind of that was the first thing that we used to look
for back in the day harbors harbors like safe harbors yeah is there either a river an ocean or like a lake
that's big enough where i have to ship things across it and that's kind of where we decided that we
would build our cities and now you can you can move to somewhere that doesn't have any water at all yeah
new york had the dopest harbor yeah new york city had the dopest harbor in the world in the most
weather uh least weather intensive place before we heat the atlantic keyed up and all the
hurricanes started hitting but it that's why new york came such a bustling metropolis of trade
there's there's been something going viral recently where it's like we don't build any futuristic
cities anymore um and people are like why don't we just take nebraska and put like a futuristic
japanese city basically in the middle of like just build it build something fucking cool and just
have people move there like why not yeah just like make life cooler that's what they did with
Vegas Vegas was right not a place at all it was there was a one train stop and then some people
built some like whore houses really that were the Hoover damn well even
Even before the Hoover Dam, it was just a train stop.
Really?
And then once there started to be more money flowing into the area, there was, yeah,
the Hoover Dam was one of the biggest, like, instigators of it.
But there would be people that were working during the day.
They'd want to go out of town a little bit and see some girls, see some live music or
drink, get drunk in a bar, play some cards.
And then a couple of places sprung up.
And then somebody was like, you know what?
We should just turn this into a destination city.
We should just make this a place that everyone.
There's nothing stopping from someone.
Just starting a random-ass town in the middle of Nebraska.
I actually wrote a blog about this.
I don't know if it ever got published,
but there's a billionaire who started diapers.com.
Do you remember this, Coley?
I keep saying it.
I don't think I'll post it.
He is working with a bunch of companies to basically make a startup city
where you can apply to join and then you get a certain amount of ownership of the land.
It has several, like, like they're trying to create a,
perfect socialist kind of communist city it's more collectivist where you own part of the city so that
by just existing there paying taxes you then get dividends back there's no private property in a
communist society so it's probably not exactly so it's more collectivist but let me bring it up
because it'd be perfect to talk about um but he's the founder of diapers.com uh you know he that got
bought by amazon he's the one spearheading it he's his billionaire sounds like a guy that
loves cocaine.
Yeah.
He's got a shet loan of money.
He's like, you know what?
Okay, here's what we're going to do.
We're going to build a city.
I'm going to start a city.
And then everyone's going to come live in the city.
And they're all going to own part of the city.
And everyone's going to love it because everything that I make, they make.
This is also, that was good cocaine rent.
Not your first.
I wanted to ask this during when we had the Maxwell podcast on, if you have, like, I guess it's a weird.
question, but it's like, at what point can you make your own laws? Like, what was stopping
little St. James from having its own laws, then laws to make legal a lot of the things that
they were doing? Whoever has the monopoly on violence, whatever. So Elon Musk once said this,
that the only difference between governments and corporations is that governments have the
monopoly of violence in the locations they claim. Sure.
but it's small, and I agree with what you're saying,
but it's so small to the point where, like,
who was going to go in there and declare that it wasn't its own independent?
You know what I mean?
Like, who was going to?
We're going to send one naval ship just pointing, point a gun at it,
like, perpetually?
Like, was that something we were going to do?
I don't think so.
That's how it happens, you know, that's how it happens.
But this was, you got to remember, a rich white guy doing it.
So you would think there would be some bending of some,
some eyes looking the other way, perhaps.
There's like international laws, though, isn't there?
International waters?
Yeah.
But in other countries, I mean, there are younger ages that are allowed and shit like that.
I'm not looking for a loophole or anything like that, but it was something that popped up in my head.
I don't have island buying money yet.
It was something that popped up in my head.
Like, could he have argued that?
Like, my island, my laws, pal.
Like, what do you want from me?
Yes, yeah.
There is, speaking of the Maxwell thing, there is one development that's happened in the last 24 hours where Prince Andrew, you remember Prince Andrew, he was one of the people that was alleged to have gone to this island and Virginia Guffrey, I believe that's how you pronounce the last name.
She was the one that made the accusation towards him that he sexually assaulted her and that at one point he was dancing all over and just covered her and sweat.
And his rebuttal to that was actually, I'm physically unable to sweat.
because of my PTSD that I have, which is a claim.
From the Falkland Wars.
From the Falkland Wars, yeah, which is a claim that many sweatologists have debated.
I don't think we have a clear picture yet of whether or not Prince Andrew can sweat.
But in the trial that's going to take place in 2022, they're starting to, they're starting to do discovery and they're getting all their ducks in a row from a legal standpoint.
And her legal defense team has now filed lawsuits against him.
and they want to have all the information behind his medical diagnosis
claiming that he can't sweat.
They're asking him to prove that he is unable to sweat.
And I'm very much looking forward to how this resolves itself.
If they put him in a sauna, there's just like somebody next to him.
I'm on treadmill.
Yeah, exactly.
Treadmills.
Nah, I mean, like sauna.
In a cold room and a cold room, fuck around don't sweat.
But did you hear the part where he said that at the time, that was his claim that at the
Oh, he got better.
There's only one thing I can, like, weigh, because I was thinking about, like, how the
hell can you not sweat?
Hypothetically, maybe he gets, like, it's connected to PTSD.
Hypothetically, let's say he gets, like, super sweaty when he's in different situations
because he's nervous.
And they got Botox in his armpits because he was embarrassed about how sweaty he gets,
because people do that.
He'll get Botelberg claims he can't sweat.
Does he have Botox?
No, he said his whole life he's never sweat.
Who?
One of the guys we work with, he, uh, he, he's an idiot.
So I don't believe him, but I, yeah, this sounds like a, this sounds like a bunch of cap.
How do you not sweat?
He's the only other person I've heard make the claim, but he's unable to sweat.
Brandon Walker says he doesn't, he like doesn't really sweat.
And so he just gets really, really overheated and then like passes out because this body like can't regulate his temperature.
I feel like I've seen that guy sweaty before.
Yeah.
Sounds like he just has an aversion to exercise
I've seen him shut down
Plenty of times on the dozen
My guy
Stop it, Cooley
Stop it
I'm a sweaty guy
I get very sweaty
I'll just put that out there
Do you have hyperhydrosis
Are you just sweaty
I just used to get so much shit
In middle school
When I'd go out to play basketball
Like do your hands get clammy
No no no I just come back
Drenched and sweat
Are you like one of them stinky
Like you funky
I didn't get I
It was always fresh sweat
Okay
What does that mean?
That it would stink by like three o'clock when it was time to leave school.
You got out of there just in time.
Not, man, it stuck the whole time.
There was a time before deodorant was allowed.
And when you had recess where you were exercise, like a 10-year-old putting on deodorant.
Yeah, this didn't happen.
It wasn't like illegal.
You just didn't happen.
Yeah, when was deodorant not allowed?
I don't know.
What age do you start wearing?
deodorant when you start
swim early middle school
I think like 12 13 I think Billy
was an early sweater
I think it was an early sweater yeah
are you not sweaty as a kid like I feel like I sweat as a kid
yeah but kids when they sweat don't smell
it's like at a certain point you become smelly
I think kids always smell
but then they grow out of the point
where they're kids they no longer have the kid
smell so the sweat smell
becomes more noticeable
kids smell kids sweat smell
smells like nickels it's the grossest smell
in the world. They smell like coins. I was about to say, y'all don't got no kids. Kids fucking stink. What
is you talking about? They just smell like coins. It's disgusting. I don't know why there's so much
metal. I don't. I can't vouch for like the coin. I used to pick up my brother when he was
little from like sports practices and he would get in my car and it would literally smell
as I was at a coin star and it's the grossest smell in the world. And I don't know why you'd
smell like that. I don't know why you're putting that on all whites. That was your brother.
Not all white. I didn't say a white people.
Just like little kids.
Anybody else have a 10-year prediction?
I think that another celebrity is going to be president.
I don't know who, like, kind of like the rock.
Maybe The Rock or maybe like, I know.
But I feel like that might happen.
And maybe Kim Kardashian's president.
I think we may get an internet bill of rights when all the older.
I'd like you to get to work on drafting that, Billy.
I will do that for next class.
Yeah, can you please?
That is your homework assignment.
That could be our nanodosing this week is Billy's.
internet bill of rights yeah yeah that sounds good
billy draft up an internet bill of rights
and we'll discuss on
Thursday's episode
I think I got
I think we're gonna get another bush
I don't think we're done with the Bush
Do you think it's gonna go Jeb? No
no Jenna Bush
You kidding me Jeb please clap no
no Jeb's ship sailed
when Donald Trump basically
called him a little bitch on stage
and then the next debate
Jeb was like we please not stop
call me a little bitch and then Donald Trump was like all right your mom thinks that you're a
bitch and then they just got to shook hands jeb Bush I'm I miss this please send me this clip
though oh my I'm generalizing a little bit but it was he was the first one that Trump went after
in the last well no first he said like Rand Paul is short look at this guy what a joke in the
very first debate and then he turned his sights on Jeb because Jeb was the presumptive nominee at that point
Which Bush was in the trailer with Trump when he did the grabber?
What was that?
Oh, it's Billy, Billy Bush.
Billy Bush.
Are they all, is that, is Billy Bush really?
He's a Bush.
He's a Bush, yeah.
How is he, what's his relation?
I think he's like one of the,
he's like a cousin.
Yeah, he's a cousin.
I don't think he's, he's not in the line of succession to become president.
I think that's going to be, what's his name, George, is it Prescott Bush?
George P. Bush.
Yeah, George Prescott Bush.
He's the youngest one.
He was born in 19.
76. He's W's cousin. He's he's he's he's, no, he's the eldest child of Jeb. So everyone
Billy Bush? No, George P. Bush. Oh, oh, I was talking about Billy. Billy Bush is W and
Jeb's cousin. Now, George P. Bush, he's the guy that I'm predicting is going to be president
within the government. Is he a politician? His steed, Coley. Yeah, his seed. His seed. Yes,
his seed. So everyone around Jeb is going to end up being president except for Jeb. This guy,
George P.
A politician as of right now?
He is a politician.
He's a lawyer.
He's doing, he's checking off all the boxes right now.
So, uh, he is currently the Texas general land office commissioner, where he's been since
2015, 45, which is a pretty, that's a pretty big deal in Texas.
There are two really big state office positions that you can get.
One is the, the land commissioner like he is.
And then the other is, uh, the railway commissioner.
Really?
Which doesn't sound like a big job, but the railway commissioner is in charge of all the oil in Texas.
So he's in charge of like moving shit in and out of Texas.
I like the look of this guy.
I mean, he looks like, he looks like a president.
If you all go to george p.bush.com, his home page has a video like running at the top.
He just looks like he's got a presidential just feel to him.
He does.
Yeah, he's, he's half Bush.
Half on the on the Bush side, he's got.
you know, Jeb has his dad and then his mom is a Mexican-American woman.
I was going to say, he doesn't look full, but, like.
He's not full Bush.
Yeah.
Oh, Bush.
I would like another, like I would like an Obama-aged president again.
Like, I don't care what you think about Obama, but I want someone to be that age again.
I'm kind of over the 99-year-old presidents.
I was just going to say that one, Jeb Bush, he went on like an SEC tour, my freshman year of college.
And it was the Tennessee, Georgia game.
And he came and gave a speech.
And my friends and I went.
and he only spoke for, I don't know, 10 minutes and I was looking around.
There were 30 people there and all of them.
It was like the Tennessee Young Republicans Club and then us.
And I was like, man, if this guy, after listening to him speak,
I was like, if this is our dude, we are so fucked.
Like he was the most uninspiring, like just you'd ever seen.
It did not instill confidence.
Jeb is a hard name to get past.
He's probably actually, this guy is probably one of the only bushes to actually
born in Texas.
Yep.
It's going to be George P. Bush against Chelsea Clinton in, uh, in 2028.
Chalked that one up as a W.
Yeah.
Or P.
Yeah.
Oh, good one, Billy.
I need to see any, any Bush running for office.
I need to see their, their first pitch before I have any other comments on him.
If he's not, he's not 92 on the black.
I'm out.
I'm out on that bush.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a tough act to follow.
listen the bar has been set it went from throwing up on on foreign dignitaries to first
pitches that united america given the circumstances arguably the most impressive and important
throw of a baseball of all time yeah if he had bounced that in the dirt or if he had like 50
cent of that like i think there were been riots in the streets i agree and he was wearing a bulletproof
vest yankee stadium world series right down the middle with some zip on that was pretty
hype you're muted arian it's George George W Bush first it was the first baseball game at post 9-11 right
no no no it was the world series because the Yankees went to world series that's right world series
world series uh oh one Yankee Stadium uh George Bush just I think he's up on a mound too right
like he talked about Jeter came up to him in the tunnel was like you're going to throw from
the base in the mound or the rubbies I was thinking base in the mound he goes you can't do that
And he was like, okay.
Listen, Jeter, Jeter wasn't always wrong.
Even as a Red Sox fan, I can tip my cap where it needs to be tipped.
That was wildly.
I mean, again, he bounces that in the dirt.
We lose that war, which we may have lost anyways, but we would have been sure from the beginning.
Yeah, we lose it much sooner.
It's a good pitch.
Nice pitch.
Right down the middle.
I like it.
With a little bit of zip on it.
Yeah.
For an old man.
You're gassing a little bit.
It was probably, I don't know, it was probably, but 55 miles an hour.
He was in his 60s.
It showed.
Yeah.
Yeah, war criminal had a great pitch.
Give him his credit.
Give him his credit.
I mean, listen, another war criminal, we know he's got a terrible jump shot.
Didn't instill a lot of confidence in me.
Thousand percent.
Thousand percent.
So pivot to the, to my prediction.
All right.
It ain't my prediction.
I'm piggybacking.
I'm Winston Churchill in it right now.
there's going to be a super bug bacterial that causes a frenzy that is resistant to
antibiotics in the next 10 years so like a COVID so like junior from Charleston and I don't
I don't know if it's going to be an STD but uh it's going to develop in Pete Davidson
and it's going to spread worldwide in the blink of an eye yeah I hope I hope that
So you're talking about like a MRSA or a staff infection type thing.
So the issue is, and they've been predicting this for a while now, but we pop antibiotics for everything, right?
And it does cure a lot of things.
But the issue is that how evolution works is it's getting resistant, right?
And so there's going to be something that comes along that's resistant to the antibiotics that we have.
And so that's why I always warn people.
doctors not to just give it out like that because it's just not a cure-all. And so they're predicting
in the next 10, 15 years that there's going to be like a super bug. Yeah, because you know why they
tell you make sure if you get antibiotics to finish all the antibiotics is because if you don't
finish your entire dose that they give you, the bacteria or whatever remains in your body that
was supposed to be killed, there will be a little bit that's left behind. And the stuff that's left
behind, we'll be able to learn from the antibiotics that you were using, and it'll become
resistant to those. Because next time you try to kill it with that, it's like, no, I fought this
battle before. I know what you're trying to do to me. They'll be able to overcome that medicine.
And so then they can spread then throughout the population with the knowledge of how to overcome
whatever antibiotic it is. So I remember getting prescribed some stuff when I was younger,
when I had just like, you know, strep throat or something like that. And I definitely did not
finish my antibiotics because I didn't realize what the significance of it was. So public service
announcement, if you get antibiotics, finish the entire prescription, actually do, like, even though
you feel fine, everything clears up, keep going on it for yourself in the long run. Don't drink
on them. And also, don't use them unless it's absolutely necessary. Yeah, I try to not use antibiotics
unless I, like, am on my deathbed. Yeah, because that's what's, that's what's going to
come of the Superbug.
It's because of that reason.
People just pop them for a little shit, like a cold.
But I do love ZPACs.
What's a ZPack?
I mean, I know what it is, but how do you, like, what format does it come in?
A pill?
A pill?
Which is one pill?
No, it's, I think it's, I think you take, it's a five-day antibiotic and you take
it twice a day.
So it's like 10 pills, but it's five days instead of a usual, like 10.
It's got a great name.
Z-Pack, oh my God.
It's so, it's like the best,
marketing ever it's shorter than the normal set of antibiotics so people do finish them
name z pack and they literally cure i mean again this is the whole point of antibiotics but
god they work well the worst like sickness i ever got with strep c and that was the only thing
i've ever taken the antibiotics for what's what's the c turns out there's strep a strep B and
strep C so it's like hepatitis in the rapid tests is usually for like the fast strep test is for
Strap A and Strep B.
So I got this, like, I was dying.
When was this?
Freshment year of college.
Literally, it was, like, losing weight, like, just laying in bed all day.
It was right before finals.
And then I went to, kept going to the infirmary, and they were like, yeah, you don't
have strep.
I'm like, my throat is, like, closing up.
It's terrible.
Got tested for mono, wasn't mono.
And then, like, a week later, after I was, like, suffering, like, chills.
they came back and said, you have strep C,
we just didn't show up on the first strep test.
It's like what you said earlier.
It's like we're really bad at treating people
when they first get sick.
Yeah, yeah.
There's a shitload of getting.
Just in this country, because a lot of people
don't have general practitioners.
I don't have one.
If I get sick, it's like, well,
I'm going to try to get better on my own.
And then if it gets fucked up, I'll go to the ER.
You know what you got to have is what I've learned recently.
You got to have like a family friend who's a doctor.
who you can just call and they'll just call you in stuff.
You don't have to go in.
You don't have to do anything.
You can just text them and be like, hey,
just go befriend a random doctor.
No, like, you just got to,
you just got to hope that, like, one of your parents, like,
had a, like, random friend from college that became a doctor that they still kept in touch with.
And you can just be like, hey, Mark from 1996.
Like, can you call me in a Z-pack?
I do that all the time.
Hey, hey, can you call me in, like, a, you know, like one of those, like,
the Teselon cough pearls.
Like, I really need it.
And then they just do it and you don't have to do anything.
Or just move to a small community like Koli, move to Maine.
And then you have like a local doctor.
And so a town doctor.
The doctor.
Town doctors, man.
That's, that's, you're pretty much a warlord at that point of that town.
You're, you're, have a monopoly.
Yeah.
Is there a situation where a second doctor moves to town?
It's a big showdown between the two of them.
Well, and if you're in a town like Coley's that I'm assuming is like, you know, pretty small.
Like you don't run you, I bet you don't run through.
Like you're a prime.
in practice so you don't have salary caps.
So you're just making as much money as possible.
There's salary caps in medicine?
Yeah.
So if at least like for, so Cleveland Clinic, you can only make like a certain amount
of money.
So like you can only make, I don't know what the money is, $500,000 a year.
And then after that, like you can't just keep like raking it and coin.
Huh.
I have no idea how, how medicine works on that end of it.
I think, I think that's it.
Someone might tell me I'm completely wrong.
I might be. But I remember, because Cleveland Clinic's such a big employer, like you can only
make so much money at a certain position. Oh, yeah. I've never heard it before. I guess that kind of
makes sense, like salary levels in a lot of things, a lot of big organizations they have, their salaries
published so everyone knows exactly what they would make if they get the next promotion. Right, right.
That sort of thing. Yeah. And it's like you can't just like harbor patients and be like, well, I want
more so I can make more. Uh-huh. All right, anybody else have predictions for the next 10 years?
I think robots are going to do something crazy
I'm not sure what
but I think they're going to
like become way more of an issue
You see the robot in the marching band?
Yeah
Why are we doing that?
I don't who's clamoring for robot dogs
Don't be anti-robot
I'm anti-robot dog
You're carbonist
I'm anti-robot dog
I prefer
I like my dogs to be cute and alive
I don't get why
Sorry area I know that probably triggers you
I don't get why we're like either one of them all of them
We're like planet of the apes
Like, I feel like we're making the robots smarter than we are for no, like, keep that away.
Keep them dumber than us so they can't revolt.
And just put us on the metaverse, plug us in, matrix us.
Sure.
I'd rather, I just don't want to be taken over by robots.
Like, I don't like that idea.
I saw Interstellar recently.
I love the vibe from the robots and that.
Yeah.
Like, still knew that they were not humans.
you know what the what's that one movie with Jennifer Lawrence and Chris Pratt and they're on it's like kind of like interstellar and they're on the passenger passenger remember the robot in that movie where he was like so human I liked that yeah it was fire I liked that where you can't like he couldn't do anything like he was he didn't have any legs or anything so he couldn't like go off of his track but he could talk to you like were two humans I like that idea where they can't get up and no I want a I want a sentient robot
to tell us what the best move is, dog.
That's what I want.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I'm over there.
Humans are stupid.
We're dumb as hell.
What happens when the robot thinks that it's human?
I don't think he would think that or else he wouldn't be smart.
I also don't get how, like, people always talk about, like, robots and how they're going to, like, going to become smarter than us.
I don't get how that process works unless, like, the human that's, like, programming the robot.
It would have to be, it would have to be sentient, right?
Yeah.
We don't know what consciousness is and we don't know how consciousness works.
We don't even know why we have it.
But if in theory it does happen, it will be exponentially smarter than us.
Right.
So you're saying it's not even close.
It can't happen yet because we don't know how to make it so it has a conscience.
It would be able to learn exponentially.
And they don't do that.
And they can't do that right now.
Yeah.
No, they learn according to the program that it's written.
So but if it was sentient, it can learn at whatever rate it wanted to, which, you know,
when you start talking about like quantum computing, like,
this thing that that's that's like some board type shit where you fuck around and really enter
uh warp like deep what is that um warp speed where you can like travel faster and speed
or like they could probably figure that shit out i wouldn't mind if they became like um like
you know those amazon go places where you don't there's no workers you can just walk in and out
and like it scans the items for you as you walk out i wouldn't mind that becoming all the grocery
stores you just kind of have like robots walking around no one has any jobs that's not
All the jobs in the entire world.
It's inevitable dog.
It's inevitable dog.
It's inevitable.
Yeah.
I think some jobs are some lines of work in the next 10 years will be converted to, like, technology.
Can't automate podcasting.
No, we're safe.
See that?
There's no robot that would ever be this dumb.
You can't tell me about what I talk about.
That's right, Billy.
You're pretty much unreplicable.
Yeah.
Robots can't make mammoth and NFTs.
Actually, they probably could.
No, fuck, no.
They probably, like, good.
How's your NFTs doing, bro?
Should I drop some more?
Yes.
Yeah, sure, why not?
All right, I'll drop.
I said I was doing.
I ain't, hold on, my G.
I was asking how they're doing you over here.
I wasn't asking you to drop one.
The one I dropped did pretty well, and I did some part of my take NFTs that did very well.
How much can you talk about?
What does it do?
They did very well.
How much of the NFTs sell for, for part of my take?
all in all yeah close to 60k which I see nothing of how don't you see any money bro
no no I it's I'm making revenue for the company like if I created merch or something
Billy did this is gonna bring this up in his contract negotiations as he should
Toma hold on hold on hold on you dropped the NFT and it went to Barstool it was it was an
NFT of
It was an
NFT of something
some things that Big Cat and I did
a few years ago.
Y'all robbed that man. You're
like distributing it. I just
y'all robbed that man. They weren't
going to do it so I was like
y'all rob. Y'all y'all robbed that man
bro. Get a man his money. To be fair
it was Billy's idea from the start to
not get any money from it.
Yeah. And you robbed yourself.
Kind of. But
again like Big T said he brings us up in
salary negotiations. He gets
paid more money.
Is Billy proving he could do a project?
I still got to do that.
And I'm trying to make, I'm trying to NFT the courtroom sketch from macrodosing.
I would really like if you have an Ft to that.
Yeah.
I might put a bit in all that.
So how does it work?
This, uh, this, this digital playground where y'all are buying digital artwork.
Uh, so is it like a, is it like an auction and people auction for it?
So, um, Von Miller tried to buy one of ours, but he got beat out.
somehow in the auction it was an open so so people auction and they pay i'm assuming there's a
third party a distributor there is and what's it on the program open c so open is that the only one
or is there many of them like there are but open c.io is one of the easiest ones just operationally
um got you but you know there the people who bought these nfts aren't necessarily uh
fans of the show. They're
NFT connoisseurs who see that there's value in these things and they might like for
example our NFTs popped up in like a discord where just unrelated to any sort of
promotion that we did and said hey look there's these NFTs being sold for this podcast that
has a you know a cult following and it would be a great and then people are looking at that
then they do their own research like it's how people who invest in a certain company might not be
into what the company does but they see that it has promise so really we're just selling to
people it's like it's like it's like paintings it's like artwork there's there's a there's a niche
market for it and you you cater to that I think the only real world like like I think that's what
it is right so like I have this painting of Tupac right it's like a mesh painting of Tupac right
somebody who's i paid 4,000 for right because that was the artist where he was demanding for
if somebody who has no idea who tupac is that has zero values but it has value to me right
and that's the idea of nifts i'm still i'm still wrapping my mind around this shit so that's the
idea of it it's just like there's a niche market for it and and i think the only real world
application for it would be like a ready player one thing in the future have you seen ready
player one? I've not. I'm just, I just checked in on the NFTs. One of the NFTs is selling for a
quarter of a million dollars right now. What? Part of my take one? Yeah. Shut up, Billy.
There's someone's selling it for that right now. Oh, so it's not yours anymore? No, but we get a cut
every time it's exchanged. One of the ones that got bought from you is now being flipped. Yes.
How much did it originally sell for?
3.69Eth, which is hilarious.
Yeah.
Hey, but you should watch, you should watch Ready Player 1, PFTU like that shit.
So it's like he creates this, this world where it's all like, you've seen Oculus, like, the Oculus things.
Yep.
So it's like a digital world.
And like this is like this platform where you could run it around on, but you're stagnating the real world.
But like in this digital world, there's like you can do anything, go anywhere, meet people.
you have coins there's currency in there you buy things it's gear all of this stuff and so it's like
that makes sense in in my opinion um but it's a really dope-ass it's a dope-ass movie you like it
ready player one i'm gonna check it out yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna look into that all right well uh
i think that about does it for the future a lot of future kind of got my brain in a pretzel
it does yeah future's crazy yeah so the listings has been so someone listed the
Piss Dogs won for 55K.
Are people bidding on it?
They bid on it at one point, and now they're relisting it.
So there's people that aren't even Barstall fans buying Barstall NFTs.
Right, exactly.
So I guess it's a lot of speculation.
So if somebody were to say, I don't know who Tupac is, but I know that he has a lot of fans.
So somebody's going to want to buy this.
So I'm going to buy it first.
And then I'm going to wait for a while.
while. And as more and more Tupac fans start to get into the market for buying
paintings of Tupac, then I can sell it and make a lot of money off those people.
Yep. I know a dude is, so an example, it's like, I know a dude who, the furthest thing
from a Republican, but he bought these like gold-plated Trump 45 guns. And he just bought a bunch
of them. He's like, I know, like later on in the road, like some crazy Trump person going
and won't buy these. And so he bought a bunch of them.
that's awesome exactly so when we all get by the way the metaverse is we're kind of getting pushed into the
metaverse by just you know i still don't get what the metaverse is just like for example we're
going to get it facebook we put on our oculus 2.0s i still haven't worn one and we fuck around in some
mythical worlds and you know all the digital property that we buy right now be it nftisers is
going to have more value because more people
are in the metaverse.
Ready Player 1.
Billy, have you not seen Ready Player 1?
No, but I get the premise.
It's exhausting.
You are describing Ready Player 1.
Just watch Ready Player 1 and then report back.
And you'll enjoy the movie too.
It's a good movie.
Like, for example, our work spaces might be us
plugging into an Oculus in some
place in our house and just like interacting
people in an office virtually,
but the office doesn't exist and
more people have housing opportunities
because we have less space.
I promise.
you just have to watch a ready player one
you're literally describing it all right i've done enough
thinking about the future right now oh my god i feel like i just rent a marathon
yeah uh do we have any voicemails we do do you want to listen to
yes take your mind off i would love to i'm hungry i am too i started a new like new year's
diet and i'm so hungry my new new year's diet is to eat more calories because i'm starting
mine tomorrow the last two days i've fucked it off so i'm starting mine tomorrow
I'm ordering torties tacos today.
I'm also trying to do dry January for the first time.
Yeah, me too.
Really?
Yeah.
I've cut all my vices.
What else?
What other vices do you have?
Frogs?
No.
Yeah, what vices do you have, Billy?
That's interesting.
No, I'm just trying to totally cut all vices.
Billy drinks a lot of course white.
Is that what it is?
Is your vice alcohol?
I mean, you're a 22-year-old guy.
That's okay.
It's got it in the way.
That's my advice, too.
I literally, I think, yeah, I've finished a bottle of crown last night.
I was starting to sort of, you know, realizing that I could be like whole, like my mental acuity.
I didn't pronounce that right.
It could be sharpened and I'm just having more energy if I just like didn't drink all the weekends, see how it goes.
Probably.
No, you're probably correct.
I was sober curious.
And you're going to get my age and not give a fuck.
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Ready getting into voicemails?
Let's do it.
Hi, this is Drake.
I'm calling in from the Pacific Northwest.
And I just had a question for you guys as we're approaching the new year,
typically a lot of people like to adopt new outlooks or do hobbies and I was just
wondering what was a long-standing belief or outlook that you guys had that you have
since changed your stance on and if there are none that really come to mind which
outlook do you find yourself questions most boys stay handsome Maddie stay beautiful
Aryan you stay gorgeous I look forward to your life and have a great day okay real
quick why why do you say Pacific Northwest yeah he wasn't really specific with it
he's definitely Canadian he's probably from Vancouver
people up there love saying that shit it's like how people from
Dallas they say North Texas
you ever seen that yeah that people there's a couple that they love
doing shit like that everybody they see how they love saying
Pacific Northwest and P&W and W and weird shit like that because they're weird
people what what is wrong with the same Pacific Northwest it's just weird
it's another step we don't need to go through just say where you're from
no offense it's just it's a it's a general area though
Drake is not from the Pacific Northwest.
He's just said his name's Drake.
Oh, I thought you meant like, Drake the rapper.
No, I was thinking his name's Drake.
And I was like, is he from Canada?
And then he said Pacific Northwest.
I was like, Vancouver.
It's like the Washington Oregon area.
That's Pacific Northwest.
Is Vancouver still?
Yeah, I think so.
I think this guy's probably.
Yeah, it's on the Pacific Ocean.
I think he's from Tacoma because he wouldn't say, if you're in Tacoma, you would not say I'm from Seattle.
But also it sounds cool.
to say and you would and if you were from like
Portland you would say you were from Portland yeah
I get Tacoma vibes from Drake is Alaska
the northwest I wouldn't consider them like would they
like Pacific North well this is like our Midwest
debate but they probably have it with themselves Alaska is just
Alaska yeah I don't think they need to be in a region
there's Alaska is that anyway
yeah but he asked a good question that is I really
liked that question that is a great question what's something
that you have you've changed your outlook on
I'll start.
I grew up my entire life thinking that or believing that there was a God and through many years of living and experiencing things.
I no longer believe that.
Yeah.
I figured that was like something around what you were going to say.
Billy, what have you changed?
You don't eat meat anymore.
No, I used to really hype up.
like achieving stuff
in thinking that that would like
be the end all be all
like you know college like getting certain
accolades and stuff and I was like
if I do this that will really make me happy
and then I had an earth shattering experience
when like achieving one of those things didn't really
like didn't wasn't everything I thought it was
and sort of really shattered my
but it was it's the journey now
No, it's the journey.
Not the destination.
Yeah.
That's a good way.
There is no there.
Exactly.
Oh, I like that.
Big T.
I'm trying to think.
Um, I don't know.
You go.
I used to hate Brussels sprouts.
I love Brussels.
Now I like them, but it's just because Brussels sprouts used to be cooked like shit back in the day.
You know, I heard that's true.
We brought them school with them school.
them school brussels brusers
ass but dog you put them
shit's in the air fryer
yeah you just gotta burn the shit out of them
yeah absolutely cut them in half
crisp them up
burn it just like the nice crisp
outside layer oh yeah
that's another thing I had my first experience
with over Christmas break was an air friar
I think I'm in the market for that
bro bro bro bro bro
it's a change of life
it's a change of life
this is actually real no no I read this
so the reason why Brussels sprouts taste better
now is because they GMOed them
from color
everything is just
Stud to stud.
Yeah, no, but they took away all the bad tasting Brussels sprouts.
How Dutch plant breeders built are Brussels sprouts, boom.
Foods going outside, a few of them has gone as dramatic as Brussels sprouts.
So for many years, they were scorn, blah, blah, blah.
They basically, there was a Brussels, a Brussels Spouts Festival in Santa Cruz, California,
where they basically got rid of the bitter Brussels sprouts
and got like the ones we eat today that taste better.
Yeah
I have no idea
But I'm skeptical of that claim
I'll send you guys the article
I think it also does have a lot to do
With how you cook them
Because back of the day it was like put these
Basically just boil Brussels sprouts
And then put them on a table
And like throw some salt on them
Yeah maybe if you're lucky
Now it's
If you're lucky
I have a really good Brussels sprouts recipe
That I think is really great
I think I've
The serious answer would be
I've realized
that I'm not motivated by money over the years.
And I used to think that I was,
especially when my job used to be in sales,
which was highly revolving around money.
And a lot of people, they get their self-worth
from how much money they make.
That's how they value what they're doing.
And so they value their life is,
okay, I had a good year this year.
Well, how can you tell you had a good year?
Well, I made more money than I ever have in the past.
And it's very dangerous to tie yourself into that
because money's not always going to be there for anybody.
regardless of who you are, it's going to ebb and flow.
You're going to have lean years.
You're going to have good years.
If you tie yourself into that, then I think you can be in for a world of hurt.
And I guess to a certain extent, too, I've realized definitely over the last five years or so,
you know, people say, like, don't read the comments.
That's very, very good advice because if you're in a public-facing job like we are,
there are going to be people that love you, which is great.
And we certainly appreciate everybody that does.
But if you build your own self-worth around what other people are saying to you, the second that
people start to turn on you a little bit, it can be like life-shattering.
And then your ego is so built into what these strangers are saying about you, then when
they start to say something bad, it also affects you the same way, just at a completely
opposite direction.
And so it's, you know, not reading, you know, the old saying, don't read your press clippings
and take those too seriously.
I think that's a very, very good piece of advice, especially for anybody that's thinking
about getting into a job like this one where people will be you know you know thousands and
thousands of people have an opinion opinion on what you're saying or doing one way or the other
it's it's dangerous to let yourself buy into what everybody else is saying about you yeah on a
micro level as well too though like like because if you're not dealing in a public job that's
great advice by the way like like people get beholden to the people that they love opinions of them
they're doing like your mother your brother your sister your family like and and it it becomes
it's like you always are trying to live your life to impress or to acquiesce to their demands
or their likes or their wants or their needs and that's just it's a lonely and depressing place
because you're never going to satisfy everybody so do the shit you got to do fuck yeah self-help
101 good advice mine is four quarters over 100 pennies it's better to have four like quality
over quantity like in terms of people like you know what i mean yeah i like to live by that one
like you'd rather have four quarters over a hundred pennies like what's the point of like a kind of
going off what you said like what's the point of like you have a ton of friends if like no one really
knows you that's a brittany spear's song too lucky listen to lucky she says it all yeah but
especially now like i'm not don't listen to brittany it's a good song i like brittany no i'm sure it is
I don't got a problem, I'm sure.
No, but especially moving here, not knowing anyone.
It's like, you don't need to, like, make 8,000 friends.
Just got to have the good ones.
All right, good question, Drake.
Thank you, Drake.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Big T didn't do it.
Oh, yeah.
I don't really know what mine would be.
Like, you haven't involved on anything?
You've stopped the exact same since you were a child?
Like, I'm a very simplistic person in that I,
I
I do
very
I don't want to say I do few things
the things I enjoy I do like when I find some
this pair of jeans
uh huh mugsies
yeah if they're
sure yeah I have bought this same pair of jeans
for like three years it's the only pair of jeans I will buy
I have a couple different colors but I will only buy one pair of jeans
I if I find something I stick to it and that's what
and I don't know in terms of like opinions
like I was trying to think of like big picture stuff that I've you started drinking alcohol
that's true a lot of alcohol not a lot not a lot apples are yeah I don't know you probably never
thought that you would live in New York that's that's actually an interesting one I used to think
you're always told people in New York and in the Northeast are assholes and I found that that's
not necessarily true people just have shit to do like for the most part people who
here are pretty nice that it's just like if you're nobody would choose to live here if you didn't
have a reason to be here like people got shit to do so like they're in a hurry to get places right but for
the most part i think most people in new york are like pretty nice that that pay rent anyway oh
oh i had another run in listen to this shit so last night i went and got a smoothie i'm walking
home and a, I don't know that he was homeless. I believe he was. Uh, gets in my face
this far from me to you reaches into my hand and goes, give me some of that drink, man.
And like, grab my fucking thing. And I ripped it back. Like, he got his hand on. He never
really. And I was like, I just walked home mad. I was just pissed. I'm like, what the
fuck are we doing here? This place is wrong. Did you give him some drink? Fuck no.
What'd you do?
I just stewed for 20 minutes.
I was just mad that people are allowed to do shit in this lawless wasteland.
Like what'd you do in the moment?
He tried to grab it.
I'd rid my hand back and kept walking back.
I was looking back at him like,
this was the crazy shit that happened to me in several weeks.
He just kept walking like he's doing this to everybody that walks around with a cup.
Bro,
you can't let anyone that close to you.
It was just Sunday to him.
I mean,
he went right down the street property to somebody else.
Sounds like you're just thirsty.
Yeah, but most people in New York,
Or fine.
That guy sucks and the crutch guy sucks.
What if that guy died because Big T wouldn't let him have some of his delicious drink?
Good.
Good.
It was delicious.
I drink every bit of it.
She.
Anyway.
What was it?
What drink was this?
It was a smoothie.
High demand, I guess.
I got a smoothie guy down the street.
Great smoothies.
I don't know the name of the place.
He's just my smoothie guy.
Let me know.
I'm always looking for a smoothie guy.
It's near you.
Okay.
I'm getting Chick-fil-A
I got Chick-flay
Do that shit still make you
Does the chick-fil-le still make you like
Have anxiety
I'm just saying fuck it
And powering through
Oh that's right
I forgot about Billy's Chick-fil-A
His chicken anxiety
Yeah how's that going
It's actually been weird
I've been looking up some stuff about it
Just my heart just really pounds
You're addicted
You're ordering more right now
Yeah
But I'm just hoping it might have something to do with Zibuze.
That's why we're doing dry January.
Now, that's true.
Hangovers definitely give you a shitload of anxiety.
No question.
Like throughout the week with your heart ban?
Do you drink on the weekdays?
No.
Billy also just takes a lot of supplements.
So there's a lot of things that go into Billy's.
A lot of potential suspects out there who's causing this.
No, the green tea chills me the fuck out.
Zends me.
You need three.
Yeah.
No, sometimes my mind just tweaks out.
It's weird.
Maybe you just have anxiety.
I have to, like, ground myself.
Have you had an echocardiogram?
Like, you checked your heart?
I'm actually getting that check, like, soon.
I'll bring it in so I can read it and interpret it.
I would love to take a crack at your EKG, Billy.
Actually, I think that might have it.
You got it?
I'm going to read Billy's EKG and see if I still got it.
In the meantime, we got another.
the voicemail?
Yep.
Or Billy's blowing this up.
Hey, guys.
This is Gabby from Maryland.
And my question is,
if there was a simulator
where you could go back
to any point in history
and change it
and see how it affected
the present,
what point in history
would you choose and why?
I love the podcast,
and you guys are doing great.
Yes, they're handsome and gorgeous.
so it wouldn't necessarily change it in real life but you could see what it would be like
yeah she had a very seductive voice that was really an odd listen gabby
a shout out to gabby no i was just saying i mean was that only one that was wild anyway
um i got one i forget so there's a theory isn't a book called sapiens uh so there's a theory
It was in a book called Sapiens.
So there's a theory that, I forget the names.
What is our, what is our name?
Homo sapiens?
Yeah, we're a Homo sapien,
and I think it was some other hominid.
I forget that we actually went to war with them
and there was a genocide, right?
I'm not sure if it was, it might have been Narendrthos,
but you might be right.
So there was like a war with them
And so, like, when our evolutionary branch branched off, there was a war with them, and we actually killed them off.
And so I would love to go back to that part to, like, stop it because we might have two different subsets of, like, humans.
That would be fire.
That would be dope.
Well, they just discovered the dragon man in the Denisovians, which was another, like, separate.
The Denisovians, Neanderthals, Homo sapiens were the three main homo—it's it's that's.
actually they basically uh they think neanderthals were gingers and that uh gingers have more neanderthal
dna's so like the whole gingers have no souls actually comes from we don't think they're as human
as other humans okay which is kind of funny but does it actually come from there but like that's
the joke that anyway i read that it's it's a weird juxtaposition
And there's a whole doubt there.
I don't know enough about it.
But I just know that that they don't know if it happened for sure.
But like that was one of the, the ongoing theories is that there was like a mass.
Like there was a war between Homo sapiens and Neanderthals and we like wiped them out.
Fire.
I would have let Hitler into the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts.
Smart.
I feel like that saved a bit of consternation.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
We might not have nuclear weapons.
now there's a lot of stuff yeah i was going to say what would have like if the holocaust didn't happen
what because because we would just gone to war with russia sooner that's probably true also
yeah that's what wiston churchill originally predicted that the western allies would go to war with
russia at some point the hitler thing probably was the only thing that stopped that from occurring
first it would be good to see the simulation and find out though yeah yeah all right
I would say I would warn RG3 not to play in that playoff game against the Seattle Seahawks at FedEx Field and tears knee up.
That really, that season, that 2012 season for me, that made me love football again, watching him play.
I was telling everybody that would listen to me, like, this is the quarterback from my team for the next 10 years.
We're winning multiple Super Bowls.
This guy's going to change how the sports played.
And that first year, he kind of did.
Oh, he was incredible.
And the sky was the limit.
and it was such a great feeling
and just to see it taken away from me
after, you know, five months.
That was, that was bad.
I was very down bad.
You know, it's crazy?
I've never seen never,
I have no idea what I have an RG3.
Like, because like, I was in the league at that time,
so I didn't study.
I wasn't a fan, so I was just like,
I didn't really watch.
Like, what happened to?
Why does he,
why was he not good anymore?
It was like week 11 or week 12 in that year of 2012,
his rookie season where he was the rookie of the year.
Helodinati hit him on,
He was like scrambling with the ball.
And Nata collided with his leg in mid-air, sprained his ACL pretty bad.
Like, it was a significant sprain that he put on it.
And then RG3 rushed himself back towards the end of the year.
And he was clearly not himself, wasn't as quick, was playing like a little bit more hesitant, a little more cautious,
because he wanted to prove that he was fine.
He could get out there and play.
And then in the playoff game at home against the Seahawks, also Russell Wilson's rookie year,
FedEx Field's turf just turns to shit around November of every year.
And this was as bad it's ever been where they were actually spray painting the field before the game because it was just sand.
They were spray painting it to give the appearance that it was green.
And then RG3 just tore his knee up on that field, just completely tore his ACL, towards MCL,
had surgery, was never the same after that.
And so then obviously everything that happened from that point on, you know, he's not as good at quarterback.
we stick with him for the next like season or so and then he goes elsewhere doesn't play well
anywhere else and now he's in the booth doing commentary which he's occasionally pretty good at
but yeah it looked like he was going to change the sport and he he kind of did that season really
did have a huge impact on the course of the next 10 years in the NFL where they had never run a
triple or a read option in the NFL you never have a quarterback with all these designed runs and now
it's everywhere you look there's at least
some sort of read option package for almost every quarterback in the NFL.
But yeah, that was, he was so good.
Yeah, he was so good his rookie year.
That first game against New Orleans, I was at that game, just like blew my mind,
the Thanksgiving game against the Cowboys.
A lot of joy was brought to me by him, his rookie year.
And I wish that we would have gotten to see more of him playing as good as he could.
Speaking of that play, I developed a take also from the Music City Bowl,
you watch that game i saw you tweeting about it people were slipping and sliding all over the place
on that dog shit field and the titans had to like replace the end zones before they played there
on sunday there should be no more natural grass nobody should play on grass anymore bad field
it was a very bad nobody every field should just be turf yep but good that's a horror hell no
what you don't think so yeah it's a horrible take but turf is horrible for your needs nobody
ain't can get you no but i feel like all the field related injuries i see are on
natural grass when it's like in bad
shape. But there's bad turf that
gives people in this team. Well, we have like
the technology now to make
exceptional. That's it. Like
there's
so like it's a
so like when
we practiced in what we called a bubble right
which was inside us. We had field turf.
Every
lineman that was
you know in the latter part of their career
fucking hated. Like and I
did too because it hurt like
it's bad on your joints though like shit is horrible like nobody likes to play on that shit like
it's it's a way better alternative than that old actual turk because that shit was just concrete
with carpet but it's just not good it just it just hurts so like everybody much rather prefers
to play on grass i guess that there's two ways to look at it one is on grass especially if it's bad
grass there's more acute injuries that happen on that turf but it sounds like on the synthetic
stuff it's like long term it's going to wear your joints down it's going to be one of those things
It's just like day in, day out, it's going to be more difficult on you, even though you might not see as many, you know, catastrophic joint injuries that take place.
It's about upkeep, too, because the field in Tennessee, that was one of the nicer fields, actually, in NFL that I played on.
That one, Arizona, holy shit, that is, like, gorgeous playing on a cloud.
That shit is gorgeous fields.
Yeah, that's the one.
That was the first one that they grew outdoors.
and wheeled indoors on game day yeah i think Vegas does that too god man our first my first couple
years at houston dog they had that fucking they literally wheeled in like i think it was like two by two
feet of squares of grass and it was just like patched in and it was just the word like there were
holes and it was the worst shit i've ever played on it was world uh i have to go pee again really
badly go pee i'm gonna go do that that's the green tea and then we'll wrap it up is it actually
need to also. Okay.
You want to do sword fight?
I also want to...
I also would like to know what happens
if Cleveland never, or
the Browns never got moved to Baltimore.
Yeah.
See what the franchise could have been.
Without a weird...
Are we pauses or are we continuing
without them? We'll pause.
Does everyone have to be?
I just go kill all the bats
and Wuhan.
That's fair.
Flamethrower.
yeah i don't think you have to like necessarily like do that i think you can just be like
hmm if this didn't happen what would life be like yeah i don't think you have to go like
destroy the bat population of the wuhan district in china but yeah you don't know how that would
throw off the ecosystem though i don't think their bats are like what are i don't think
bats are native to i i think billy look it up the whole thing was uh that they were being sold
in a market to be eating bad.
I feel like there's so many things you can eat that aren't that.
I mean, you eat pigs. That's shit crazy too.
I guess.
It's like one of those things where it's like you don't think it's crazy because you've just
been like accustomed to it. The weird thing about the beginning of COVID, I was like
on the deep web back then.
Yeah. There was so many
videos surfacing of like crazy stuff coming from China.
like before COVID happened or like while they were locked up like there was that video circulating
of which was apparently from a movie of like people in like I don't know it could have been
it was definitely like misinformation that was yeah spread well I remember I remember like right
before COVID hit when it had hit in China but it hadn't hit the US yet like you know
February like late January and um one I remember that there was
there was a there were signs taped all over my college campus of that doctor that like discovered
COVID and he was killed and they were like all of the international students were like protesting it and
being like you know he's he's hiding things and then yeah and then I remember there was like a TikTok
girl who was like again this was like right before COVID hit the United States and she was
she was American living in China and living in Wuhan and she
was like basically vlogging what life in lockdown was like and she was like day 42 of lockdown
i was like oh my god can you even imagine and then like literally three weeks later but also those
videos of like the people in masks just dropping dead yeah i don't know if that was real though i know
there were definitely just videos of people fainting from other reasons they just had masks on
but there's all these fake videos coming out of china like dudes with machine guns walking around
and hazmat suits do you remember that i remember that there was one
where a guy was going through a checkpoint and they scanned his his temperature through the window
and then they like pulled him out of the car and all these army guys took him away it was like well that
was this test was that was their planned detainment for someone who tested who didn't want to get out of
the car and then the other ones were all fake it was just like where did all these fake videos come
from you don't i mean if you're billy remember you're on the deep web yeah you're not on like
YouTube.
Oh, yeah.
So, like, there's weird shit down there.
Are we got another voicemail?
Yeah, you want to finish off one full more?
Let's do it.
My name is Sean.
I'm from OKC.
I want to know what was the first conspiracy theory
bought into being from OKC.
I was a kid when the bombing happened.
I thought it was business as well as
natives maybe and then just found out as plain white
people uh happy new year happy january 6th the big tea and see you all next are now
2020 like see that's the kind of shit i'm gonna go on a rant right now that's the kind of shit
that's like like actually fuck this guy like i don't care that he listens to the show you
might have to cut this like that's so irresponsible and like disgusting honestly like that's gross
it's funny it's no like that guy's a piece of shit you know that that he doesn't actually believe
that you were at the Capitol building?
He doesn't believe I was at the Capitol,
but he believes I think that like that,
or he said it.
He said it on a thing that he knew he was sending in
that could be on a show
that's listened to by a lot of people.
For the record,
Big T disavows.
And like anybody that does that shit fucking sucks.
Big T.
One of the thing that I used to be totally paranoid about
was that like every single one of these podcasts
and stuff that's on the internet
and other people that say about me
is somehow going to be like,
held accountable to me at
Billy it doesn't matter
like kind of but like
the whole frog fucking thing
really mess with Billy's brains while
I was like people are gonna actually think
like I was thinking
but we live in a world where like
just attributing that
like it's just disgusting that guy has never met
me a day in his life has never spoke
like that guy fucking sucks I just
he sucks you see that Trump's
you never you never you never made him either
so how do you know he sucks
because he called into a podcast of strangers
and was like, oh, this is so funny.
It was a joke, though.
It was a shitty joke.
It was kind of funny.
Subjective?
No, that guy fucking sucks.
Trump's going to be getting a speech.
He's doing a speech on January 6th.
Is he going to be a broadcast anywhere?
Yeah.
Oh, I'm sure it was.
There's no way he's doing it on January 6th.
Absolutely he is.
And I can't wait to watch it.
January 6, part 2.
Wait, that's in three days.
Yeah.
Oh, I can't wait.
I will be tuning in.
I think he's getting, I think he's getting away from the,
because you know that everyone's going to be doing like a memoriam on January 6th.
And there's going to be a large part of the media trying to make it like a huge sort of day that lives in infamy.
It's socially irresponsible to have your speech on January 6th.
Like, it's very irresponsible.
But that's Trump.
So, fuck it.
That's crazy.
What if he announces his rerun for the next election?
That would be.
He probably will.
One thing that I do, one thing should be looked into is there, like, was there feds at January 6th trying to get people to go inside of the capital?
I think that there were, if you look at the course of any group of people, any like political movement, there are federal agents that are in communication with certain people, whether
they're undercover and they're put in and they try to get certain people to commit acts like
they entrap them sometimes that definitely does happen that's not crazy to say that but i also
have seen enough footage of what happened where there were a lot of people that were doing that
intentionally without the help of any federal agency there's actually one um there's one guy that
they were saying was he looked like a fed i think it was on tucker carlson there was one guest
that was saying, look at this guy.
He's, this guy's clearly a Fed.
And it turns out that the guy is just, he's like a St. Louis Cardinals diehard fan who's
known far and wide.
And he's absolutely not a Fed.
And he was accusing other people of being feds instigating this.
But then on Tucker Carlson, they're like, this guy's the phase.
Like, no, no, no, no, that's me.
I'm real.
But trust me, there were others that were there.
I think it's not, I guarantee there were definitely FBI agents that have been, like,
infiltrating the proud boys who were there and and probably encouraging them to do things
that they can get arrested for that happens it happens all the time in the course of us is usually
they target like if you look at the 60s they were targeting more so uh the left wing but i think
any extremist group you can bet that the FBI is trying to get involved they did with uh with a lot
of mosques after 9-11 they would send FBI agents in there to infiltrate and to try to encourage them to
plot, you know, fundamentalist exercises and attacks. And they sent some people to jail based
on essentially being entrapped into committing these crimes. So that was actually the first
conspiracy I believed in was 9-11. I thought that 9-11 was like this inside job. I believe
the whole, what was that, loose change documentary? Yeah. I bought every single thing.
Yeah, I mean, the video was, I remember when I first watched it, you kind of, you kind of wanted to believe what was going on because it made more sense to think that it was easier to understand that conspiracy than to look at it in a much, much bigger lens and see how everything that has been going on in the United States for the last, you know, 150, 200 years has led to, you know, a lot of blowback from different societies that we've been interacting in in certain.
ways. And I'm not, by the way, I'm not saying that like the U.S. deserve 9-11. That's not what I'm saying
at all. But everything happens for a reason and there probably wouldn't be as much Islamic terror
directed at the United States if it wasn't for some of the things that we have done in the past
too. So like everything's kind of connected in a way. And that's tough for somebody to understand
in the moment. You just want like a simple, easy explanation so you can point your finger and
say, oh, is Bush. Okay. Bush did it all. I got. We should really, we should do an episode
on that, actually.
Mm-hmm.
I agree.
I got roped into the whole YouTube algorithm.
So really, I started, like, middle school and just, like, Bigfoot, Nessie, you know,
crypto zoology.
Like, did this really happen?
Like, was Atlantis real?
Just, like, going down YouTube rat up holes.
Took me all sorts of places.
Ended up in some conspiracy theory type stuff.
Because then it goes cryptozoology.
reptilian people
yeah
David Ike yeah
and then you're like
then you're like what
like is there a bunch of reptile people
is George Bush like a reptile
shape shifter and I'm like
well like I never actually
believed it at the time but I was just like
fortunately the internet being
exposed to young kids at the young age
it's totally fucked up whole generation
but was there anything that you
believed in like absolutely
and then later
wrong you're like yeah i don't know what to it i'm trying to think of the exact but i definitely thought
that there might be big foots out there i wanted to be true yeah you wanted to be true yeah
still wanted to be true oh i did think that like dinosaurs might exist in uh elevated uh stone
structure in the middle of africa that resisted like land before time type stuff
I've never even heard of that one, man.
Yeah.
I like it.
No, Congo River Basin, McColo and Bimbe.
There probably is one.
Oh, and like stuff like gigantic anacondas in the Amazon, just like stuff not discovered, like King Kong, giant gorillas being somewhere we can't find them.
Big T, there's, there's a dinosaur?
Probably.
What?
Like alive?
At some point in the last 20 or 30 years, yeah.
No, no, no.
They misperve that one.
The thing is when you see an elephant with its trunk up from far away, it looks like a pleiosaur.
Is that the plan?
I'm just telling you, there's some interesting anecdotal, albeit evidence that there might be a dinosaur in the Condor River.
It's an elephant with its trunk up.
We don't know that it's aquatic.
Well, if you look at an elephant moving through the water, if you look at elephant, look up elephants swimming.
I'm looking up, pig T's one right now.
what they look like
the most reasonable and agreed upon explanation is
the McCollah Mbembe is a legend based on the black rhino
a species once common to Central Africa
with the stories of the Mekola and Bimbe originated
the absence of this evidence despite
several centuries of western contact with the region
numerous expeditions and search are the animal
and periodic aerial and satellite surveillance
all of which have detected elephants
and large animals but no sauropods
all argue against the existence
so they don't really according to wikipedia nothing you found on google is going to be true so
don't worry about it according to wikipedia just says that they the the evidence proving that it doesn't
exist is that we haven't found it yet yeah you see how this can kind of look like a pleiosaur
dinosaur no no it looks like an elephant but like from far away if you saw the trunk sticking out of
the water it would look like the neck of a dinosaur like a tiny tiny dinosaur but if you're looking it from
far away.
I wanted on the record.
I was joking.
I don't want any dipshit's fucking tweeting me.
Oh,
Big T thinks there's a fucking...
Like, this kind of looks like...
Also, maybe, maybe cut what I said earlier,
but I'm not answering that guy's question.
No, we're going to keep that in.
Nah, I think I want it cut.
I don't...
Here's a better example.
Because the...
Looks like it does.
Everything I said was correct,
but then that just gives people more.
Like, they're like, oh, see, you got offended.
So, mate, I don't know.
You also like letting a rise out of a...
people so you know like you like getting rat's high people so i don't think that's necessarily true but
there's a difference between okay it's the internet dog nick motherfucker's gonna talk shit to you about
whatever between talking shit and saying like i don't know i don't know i think that was pretty
but bro like i think i think there are genuine i think there are genuinely people out there who don't
like you big t there are genuinely people out there who don't like me is it's what it is just take it with a
Graham just there are a lot of what are what off of ducks back man don't worry about
well that's the thing like I don't I don't care what anyone who doesn't know me
thinks of me I just hate why just got mad you just got mad no yes I did I'm still mad
because like just that's such a disgusting thing to say about somebody that I don't know
I'm not going to keep getting into it or whatever just but maybe I was I was saying for
your health for your mental health it's better if you just let it go because like
It's going to happen.
Especially if you keep podcasts and people out there.
People are wild, bro.
One thing that...
Why did we pick that voicemail?
Because it was funny.
It was a good voicemail.
It was a good question.
It really was a good question.
I don't even remember what it was, but it was not a good question.
What is the first?
Nessie.
Mine's Nessie, actually.
I remember the exact moment.
I was like, there's got to be something down there.
I think mine was Nessie when I was like really little.
Well, that's the first one.
Right.
Yeah.
My first one, I got really into cults and conspiracies at the same time.
So Heaven's Gate I got really into.
And then the Simpsons predicting everything.
Mm-hmm.
High school, the Hillary Clinton stuff was run rampant.
Yeah, but I wasn't into that stuff.
Like the kill list?
The kill count stuff.
Yeah.
Because that was being broadcasted.
Like, I was definitely targeted by misinformation.
You were targeted, not me.
Mm-hmm.
yeah no those are the things that I was getting targeted by all right anyone else okay good episode
yeah lots covered today chick filet arrived looked into the future a little bit I think we came out
the other side Billy's still hungry so that's good growing boy so we will see you on Thursday
Billy's going to do his internet bill of rights yeah I'm looking forward to that Billy of rights
Yeah, they're perfect
Do you have it written down so you remember to do it?
Yeah, I actually have it off the top of my head
Okay, save it
I'm just a bill
I am only a bill
All right, how many are there?
How many are there?
I have a general juxtaposition
Of how it's all going to work
But I need to actually write
I don't know how many there are to explain
But there's a general
I like what Billy just did right there
He's like, I don't know the word for it
So I'm just going to get word
What is it in juxtap?
position with?
Well, like, I have the main idea,
but I haven't broken it down into bullet points.
The word you're looking for was outline.
Yeah.
He's got an outline.
A rough draft.
Yeah.
Just so you know in the future,
but the juxtaposition is when you compare two things.
I know.
Side by side.
But like,
the Internet Bill of Rights and the real Bill of Rights.
Exactly.
I don't know if I'm going to have 10.
Maybe eight.
It could just be one.
I think it's just one.
No, no.
I'm going to need.
Like at least five.
What?
Yeah, one.
I mean, the bill of rights is just like an outline of freedom.
No, the Bill of Rights is specifically 10.
The first 10 amendments to the Constitution.
You could just be like freedom.
No.
You have to have between five and 15 by Thursday.
Tweet into others.
I'll just do 10.
Yeah, 10 sounds good.
I would say 10 is great.
All right.
We'll see you on Thursday for nanodosing.
Love you guys.
You know,
I'm
