Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Getting To The “Bottom” Of The Hollow Earth Theory

Episode Date: May 18, 2023

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That's true. A cold call. Can we just start recording right now? Yeah, we're all recording. Oh, shit. I mean, we were just recording. we can cut in whatever we're just recording to watch pf t not get the that that has to be kept separately yeah i want to say whatever whatever we'll get we'll get the internet sluice on it um airing good question

what's a cold call i used to do that all day every day for like two years um it's when you call somebody out of the blue and you try to sell them something so i was selling software custom software or software testing so i would find out who the ctio was of a company and I call them up on the phone, and then they pick up, and then they're like, who's this? And then I have to say who I am and try to get them interest in my product before they hang up on me. It's a fun little dance. Let's do it. Okay.

I'm calling you. Call me. What's your title and what company do you work for? And what am I selling you? Well, you'd have to tell me what you're selling me, right? I used to do this to jobs. I'm just saying, like, let's put a scenario in place here. All right. I am the owner of a light bulb company, and it's a local mom and pop.

We've been doing business in the city for 50, 60 years. Good, good quality light bulbs. Okay. That's the name of it. G.C.L. My name is Jack Johnson. Jack Johnson at good quality light bulbs, GCL. GCL. Okay. Ring, ring, ring. Hello. Hey, Jack Johnson, this is a cold call. Do you want to hang up first or should I? Well, this isn't Jack Johnson. He's far too busy to be answering phones like this. But if you want me to get a hold of him, I absolutely will. Oh, yeah, that'd be great if you could help me out.

I'm really embarrassed that I called the wrong person on this one. So I appreciate you helping me. Not a problem. I'll patch you right in. Okay. This Jack. Hello, this Jack. Oh, yeah, sorry about that.

I was just dealing with a call that was coming through on the other line. Hey, my name is, my name is PFT. How you doing? I'm good. It sounds like you don't remember me. The name does not ring a bell. Can you PFT? Yeah, yeah.

I just had a note on my desk to give you a buzz. I know that you run good quality light bulbs, right? Yes, yes, we've been a family-owned operator. business for good 50, 60 years. Okay, so that makes sense why I would have a note to give you a call. I actually represent an electricity company. And so I know that good quality light bulbs, you guys are probably in the market for a lot of electricity. And we've got a great introductory rate right now. We're willing to undercut whatever company you do business with by 20% for your first six months. How's that sound? It sounds a little outrageous. I mean, we've been doing

business with regular electricity company REC for 20 years. What should I mean 20% is a is a lofty go I mean say more I mean I'm interested but yeah how I mean you're your business owner I'm a business owner CEO CEO at the end of the day I've got people to answer to at the bottom line and if you I would guess I don't want to

assume anything about your business but if you're a light bulb company you probably use a lot of electricity and if we have a service that can provide better, cleaner, faster electricity for 20% less I would assume that that would be something

that you're interested but maybe I'm way off I mean I'm definitely interested but I'll be on with you, uh, FTP it sounds like bullshit 20% sounds like bullshit I'm just being CEO to CEO you and your important desk notes and calls

20% sounds like bullshit we might not be the right company for you then I mean you called me yeah but after hearing you explain to me you know the challenges you face as a business owner it might not be a match and that's fine I'm interested let's talk a little further

I okay um hang on real quick let me just I've got an appointment here. Is it okay if I hop off in about two minutes? I've got a kind of time boxed in right now. I have a very important client coming in. And I want to make sure that we treat our clients with the utmost service

if they're going to be using our services to them. So listen, I'm happy to walk you through all the details. In past experiences that I've had with CEOs, they might not want to get down into the details. Now, I can talk. I can talk electricity with you until I'm blue in the face. I'm happy to get into the weeds on that. But is there anything in particular you'd like to know about our service where it comes

from the speed rate that we have on delivering the electricity or pricing model? What's important to you? You know, I like to cut of this guy's jip. And I'll tell you what. I'm going to let you get to your call. And I'll be in touch with you because I'm interested. I like the way you're talking. Okay.

Yeah, that sounds good. tell you what call me back and i hate to do this right now hang on one second hey Cheryl hey can you can you bump my 155 just five minutes would that be okay yeah yeah and tell him i'm very sorry to keep him waiting i wouldn't want to do that um but while he's waiting make sure he gets fresca diet coke coffee fillet whatever he wants

Yeah, I know. He's a good friend of yours, too. So just, you know, catch up with him. Okay, cool. Yeah, so I can actually walk you through the pricing model right now if you'd like to. Do you have any kids? I do. Okay. So I assume that passing on a cleaner, more stable world would be something that would be important to you, right? The environment is probably something that you at least think about every now and again. Climate change is a hoax. I think it's going to be, we'll be fine. Let's maximize these profits.

Let's make this air as dirty as we can. Well, that's good because we run a filthy business. The way we're able to deliver, the way we're able to deliver such a great brand of electricity to you at a lower price is precisely because we cut every single corner when it comes to regulations. We've got an entire office space that's just filled with lobbyists. And so they're working day and night to reduce regulations. and we're even breaking some regulations that they won't know about

that we're actually going to write into law to say that it's okay in the future. So we're able to get a leg up on our competition because we pollute more, we drive faster, and we don't give a fuck about the environment or the future. Let's make some money, you know? That's what it's about for us. And you tell you,

I'm so glad you push your meeting back because I was going to get on a call with you later on, but you have just tickled my fancy. I'm in I'm cutting ties with this 20 year company that we've had this in place they're talking about renewable energy and all this gobbledy gook liberal

bullshit I'm with you I'm with you yeah let's do this listen we don't we don't sell gay electricity okay we sell red blooded full diesel American energy to you

I love to hear it I love to hear it I love to hear that there's still electricity companies out there to haven't gone woke and they understand we need good clean quality American muscle electricity. No of that bullshit. Let's do that.

That's what I'm talking about, buddy. All right, I'm not here to jack you around. Get it? Mr. Johnson. Let's set up it. Wait, hang on. I got a call coming in right now. Bear with me for just one second. Now, take your time please. Yeah, this is FTP. Well, hey there,

FTP. I just heard some talking you were doing about type of business y'all are doing down there at uh what's the what's the company again uh this is fucking fast electricity okay well i just heard i just heard some stuff i liked and i was wondering if if we could get on the horn as well if you were if you're not busy after your two o'clock now if if i'm not mistaken this sounds like the chairman and CEO big t motors that's absolutely right Wait, is Big Towers going electric? Oh, who's that?

I want to do business with Big T. I don't want to do business with Lil B. Hey, Scott. Let me close a deal real quick. I'm closing a deal on the other line. Big T, I'm going to give you a call right back. Big fan of your work, by the way. Absolutely, you as well.

All right. All right. So what's your credit card, Jack? A credit card. Yeah, that's how we close this deal. tell you what i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna have shirrell send you an invoice we'll just invoice it put it off till later you don't have to pay we got you know lucy-goosey payment terms 30-day net accounts receivable over here so we'll get that strained out but i feel like the

ceo to ceo chat has has run its course we're good doing business let's make the sparks fly good old american spit in a hand handshake better than a contract all right there you go that's that's how you close a deal that's how you that's how you run a sales call all right cold call now I know yeah it's it's a tough job I feel bad for anybody that has to get into cool call business these days because nobody uses phones anymore and there's a lot of spam and shit too so so like some of the tactics that you were using that I picked up on is is seeming busy uh part of it like you wanted to seem busy yeah you don't want to sound like you're desperate for a sale because if you're if you put that across then people are going to be like

I don't want to, for whatever reason, they're like, I don't want to do business with this guy who really, really, really wants to do business with me. I'll just make it seem like, come if you want, but I'm trying to help you out. Yeah, take it or leave it. And also, they teach you whatever emotion the other person is showing. Show a similar emotion, but always be like less of that emotion than they are. So if you were like, this is incredible, I can't believe you're going to give me 20% off. let's close this deal right now.

I would be like, I mean, that sounds great. I would love nothing more than to win your business, but let's make sure it's a good fit before we close this thing out. So let me just ask you a couple questions about your needs and make sure that what we provide over here is going to be, it's going to be a good fit for what you guys do. Is that all right?

Or if you're like, get the fuck off the phone, I'll be like, yep, this was a bad call to make. You're probably right. Like, I feel bad. Didn't mean to interrupt your day. sounds like you've been dealing with cold callers all day long you mind if I just take 20 seconds

I'll tell you what we do if you don't like it then you can tell me to fuck off and I'll hang up it's it's not an easy job you have to be emotionally intelligent like you have to understand people's emotions and it's yeah there has a skill set involved

a lot of lying involved too yeah a lot of lying you'd be great Billy no I don't think so you're lying that's a lie right there no no no no no uh but yeah

anybody that has to like pick up a phone and dial some companies make you call like 40 50 80 people a day it's tough geez there's no way I could do that and you also get told no a lot so you

you can just get beat down and a lot of people just give up after a while because they hate hearing no over and over again. Does it feel like a success? Like you feel like it's a win when you sell something? Like it's like I did that. For a while, yeah. Yeah, it's a good feeling for sure.

But then some people, some people love that. I didn't really love it. But the people that do love that feeling and love, if they're like money motivated and all they care about is money, then they can have a good career at sales. But if you're not, if that doesn't like actually fulfill something that you want, then it's you're going to burn out at some point even if you're a good salesperson you'll burn out

I feel like Vince Vaughn is the best salesperson I've ever seen in and he actually a couple movies he was a salesperson with the one uh the internship great movie yeah that's a fucking brilliant movie he just has this way of conveying shit that had me you know what I'm saying he had me wanted to buy the shit he was selling in the movie she was

nice of that shit though yeah it's uh it's a skill set man it is So maybe I'll teach Big Tea and Billy to make some cold calls for for macrodosing. I did a little cold calls in my day, but it wasn't sales. It was looking for a job and trying to lease space, but a little different and selling a product. So you were calling a landlord and being like, I'd like to give you money, sir. No, no.

I'd call tenants and be like, hey, I see that your lease might be ending soon. Are you looking for new office space? but then like everybody's lease is usually like on a two or like usually when you're calling their lease might be up you don't know at the time so then that's why they're like no our lease is up in two years I'm like oh sorry then you like take a little note didn't have the job long enough to call back in two years but yeah yeah then it's it always happens like on your first couple days you'll get a call like that and somebody will say I'm not interested and they'll just lie to you and they'll say like you know I'm going to be in the market

in like you said two years or 18 months and then you go into your little note system and you put a note in call this person back on this date like 18 months from now knowing full well you're not going to be working at that job in 18 months but you still put it in there yeah the the hardest one though is like trying to get a job and just cold calling different people in different departments and just being like hey I was wondering if you're hiring I just graduated from macro dosing university and majoring in this and I thought I'd be a great fit for your company. Some people liked it.

Some people didn't. That's a cool call too. Yeah, you're selling yourself though. Yeah, that's a hard one. Yeah, that's a hard one. You really got to sell yourself is weird as fuck. So not to. I know this is an amazing conversation about cold calls,

but I wanted to bring this up, bro. Because I just found maybe, I don't know. I don't know how I just found out about this, but have you ever heard of Phoenix Jones? No. Okay, bro. Phoenix Jones was a mixed martial artist. He fought in the MMA who lived in Seattle.

So his origin story was this. He was at like at a supermarket with his kid. He comes back outside. His car window's broken. And I guess they stole some shit or whatever. He ends up, his son ends up slipping and falling in the broken glass. And he's just like mad as fuck. He's like, I'm tired of the crime in the city.

My guy puts on a real superhero outfit, bulletproof vest, gets it tailor made, and then is a real-life literal vigilante running around fighting crime in Seattle, right? Yeah. I have heard of him. Yeah. Shit is wow. Okay. So then, so then this is in doing so, he starts like filming shit here and there, starts doing shit. And then other people hear about it.

And so he forms like a click of super show. So they come and they dress up with him and they walk around and they fight crime. And this dude's like, he got shot twice. He got stabbed. He was really out here doing shit. But he ended up getting arrested because he started beefing with the Seattle PD. And he started beefing with him like, on some bullshit. Like, loki, because they were like, yo, this is dangerous.

Like, don't do this. you're involving yourself in all these incidents and then he he starts like calling them out on their lack of response time on how they do things and so they don't like him right so like during like some of his altercations like one of them uh he's breaking up a fight the both of the parties start attacking him he pepper sprays him and then the police get called and they end up arresting him shit's hilarious and so and so those charges got dropped but they ended up getting this bandit because like his he hung up his cape his his his superhero friends they started turning on them because they started they like started talking shit there was like all he does

is walk around like areas where drunk people are and like drunk people obviously are going to commit crimes and he he's just that's that's what that's what he does like and then they kind of got a little racist when he was like because he's a black dude right And he was like, he don't go on Martin Luther King Boulevard where there's real drug dealers and real gang members, right? And so like the inner turmoil between the superheroes, he's saying you ain't really out here fighting crime. You're just fucking with drunk people. And so he ended up hanging his cake up, man. That shit was fantastic story I had never heard about before.

Well, vigilante justice has been too popular lately. Yeah. I've never liked to. but what are you referring to uh there's there's some stuff on the new york city subway a guy got arrested a guy choked a dude out and unfortunately the guy died and now the guy killed him out no no don't don't be like he he he choked him out and then somehow he died he died like he died because he got choked out the guy choked him out and killed him well i don't think he was trying to kill him right but he choked him out and killed him

now i i wasn't i wasn't on the subway i don't know what the person was doing if the person was actually threatening anybody because there's no video that but the guy the guy choked him out and killed him my mom used to say my mom used to say the road to hell is paved with good intentions so what is what is his defense what is because i saw uh all the republicans her conservatives they're like they banded together and they get this man like I think it's like up to like almost two million dollars now his defense attorney go fund be fun yeah why why has this been politicized is it because a white dude killed a black dude is that what I'm guessing yeah a little bit and it's it's also tied into crime in cities in America so the person that was the the person that

was killed he had a pretty considerable rap sheet and he had some mental health issues and people are saying, well, this person was probably threatening people on the subway when this happened, given his rap sheet. But we don't know because there's no video of what the person was doing. Two other people on the subway car helping him restrain the guy while he's choking him out. I kind of think that the majority of the subway car was sort of condoning his actions. So they saw what happened before. So if you look at the video, there's three other guys helping him restrain him. So if there's, you know, I'm not saying what happens right.

I don't want anyone to see like anyone died, but you've been riding the subway. You've been around New York City. Like mad dog got chased by a guy in a mask. Like it's fucking Gotham City and there's no bad. No, it's, it's really not that bad. Like New York City is not that bad. It has gotten way worse. It's like I used to ride the subway at nine years old.

Like by myself. By myself. Like you've like, I, it wasn't like this. I don't know It wasn't like this What are you talking about? It wasn't in the early 2000s In the early 2010s

It was not like this I can say that for a fact I was like I forgot that's when I was like Like yes of course in the 80s In like 80s 90s was bad But like crime happens in waves my brother It'll go like this and it'll go up Look at all the statistics throughout our history

That's what crime is and does I know I know but there has been a change So I think reality of the situation is whatever he was doing unless he was like about to kill somebody on that subway you can't just kill you can't just kill a person because they're they're acting irrationally on a subway what if they're threatening people you can't kill people man what he's talking about you well what about attempting like kill him i i'm glad he got so he got a manslaughter charge which is much better than a murder charge because it has to do with intent he didn't i do not believe that the guy

intended to kill him. I think he intended to incapacitate him. Arian, if you were doing jiu-jitsu and you choked a guy out, have you ever been in a jiu-jitsu gym when a guy passes out because he doesn't want to tap out?

Now, what if that guy accidentally died by some reason? Well, it's because there's a way you choke him. You're taught how to choke people, and I'm almost positive. I don't know anybody in the military personally. Well, I haven't talked to anybody in the military in that capacity. But I'm, I would be surprised if they're not taught how to choke somebody out.

Yeah, it was also like he held the choke out for minutes on end. And also you can restrain somebody without choking them. Like, you don't have to choke them. It's why isn't, isn't that, isn't that use of excessive force in police departments? Isn't it banned because of that reason? A lot of them do have that. Yeah. It's like an illegal thing to do.

You can't, you can't go run around choke of people, though. Like, if restraining people that are erratic or whatever the case might be and a threat to people, I understand that. But there's, yeah, there's actually, like, a lot of time on the subway, there will be, there could be something that's happening where it is a clear and present threat and people just look down at their phones and they ignore it. So it's not like I don't, I wouldn't care about public safety in that regard. But if you restrain somebody and you choke them for, I forget how many minutes that he held a choke hold out and killed them, it's because. you choke the man out and you choked him to death and you have to squeeze with a certain amount of force in order to restrict breathing like you have to you have to do that like and you have to do it for an extended period of time so like you could have put him on his stomach if there's three

people restraining them it was excessive it was excessive and so he'll get off it's just it's the He'll get off. I don't think he's getting off. I think he'll get off. I mean, he might get convicted of manslaughter because he did extra judiciously kill a person. But he could claim self-defense. He's going to claim self-defense.

I was in threatening of my life. I don't know the New York law. People have come forward from the subway saying that the guy was saying, I'm ready to go back to jail. I'm ready to hurt somebody to go back to jail. I think the term was, I'm ready to kill somebody to go back to jail. he said he said i'm not afraid to go back to jail i'm not afraid to die so he didn't he didn't

from what i've read and i've read a lot about it he didn't threaten to kill anybody he just said he's not afraid to die i think there was threats of harm new york so the quote is and there there might have been i wasn't i wasn't on the train but i haven't i haven't read anything that shows that he was making direct threats or endangering anybody's safety at the time it was quoted um i'll hurt anyone on this train okay i didn't know that um therefore kill him restrain him i don't look in reality it's not i don't think it's not i don't think it's both of them are almost victims of the scenario because new york city should never allowed the like the public officials let it get to this point where there's so many people not

gang taken care of like this guy definitely needed help jordan neely the guy who unfortunately passed like he needed help and he wasn't able to get it because of how our government like especially the city government recently has been operating that's the real crime the real crime is that this guy needed help and he should have never been in that situation on the train to you know like threatening those people he should have been he should have gotten been helped someone should have helped him and he's been in the system enough where they should have helped him So that's the real tragedy and not in that, you know, like it's an unfortunate situation that one, this guy felt that he had to do that, no matter like thinking in the right

scenario, who knows this guy may have been a combat veteran, the one who did it. He may have like, you know, we don't know, like how the whole situation. And it's unfortunate in all things. But. So the video showed the show. cold lasting four minutes there were some reports that prior to that it had been going on for several minutes already so four minutes is a long-ass time to hold somebody a chokehold that's a very long time to be exerting force on somebody's neck and uh apparently a man after two minutes on the

video a man came on the train to warn that the chokehold could kill him or could injure him and he kept it going so he was told by another passenger like hey this could hurt him and he kept going so you should not be allowed to kill another person on the subway unless they're trying to kill you but even then like if if it's I just I mean this is like a it's definitely a divided

thing right because like he'll he's obviously going to claim he was in fear for his life which he obviously wasn't but or in fear of someone else's life he wasn't in fear but if you have somebody down on the ground and you know they're unarmed there's no there it's it's a tactic it's a it's a tactic used

to get people out of crimes that they I have a feeling that this guy thought that the guy could was like healthy enough to get choked out and not die I think he was just going to make him pat in his head he was probably like I'm going to make this guy

pass out and then just let the police come not for four you can't you can't you can't Well, the thing was he was moving. I'm not, but like, that. So you kind of are. You just said, like, I have a feeling in his head. Do you think he, like, it was warranted?

Him killing him was warranted? I don't think him killing him was warranted. I think that he didn't mean to do that. I think he meant to choke him out. Like, how many, I mean, like. That's why. I hear you. You also get into a weird conversation

where if somebody was in fear of something happening, then you have to figure out if their fear was justified or not. So if somebody that has never been to a city before comes on a subway train and sees somebody that's just pacing and talking to themselves, I'm not saying that's the case in this scenario. But let's say that you grew up in, I don't know, Wyoming and you come to New York City for the first time and you've heard on the news from Billy that New York City is a very scary place to live. No, no, no, I'm just saying like, you've heard that.

New York says it's a scary place to live from bill and then you come to New York and you come to New York and you see somebody pacing on the subway and screaming something which is like abnormal behavior obviously that could be considered to be menacing and that person is afraid of the homeless guy that's walking back and forth yelling and that person's legitimately scared of this person and restrains them and ends up killing them because they were afraid then you have to figure like was that fear justified enough to kill the person and that's that's like everybody has different fear levels and then you have to figure out if there was actually a threat that a standard or a normal person would consider was was a threat so it's a it's a very murky conversation but it sounds like i don't know manslaughter is probably that's probably the right charge to start with i don't know because i can't get inside the guy's head i don't know what happened on the train before it happened the thing is like they're like i even know like i know like i know of people who have gotten manslaughter charges from like punching a guy in the head

and then the guy hits the curb and dies like that happens all the time but like it's it's like i'm just saying that it's an unfortunate situation all around like but the fact that this guy is being like i don't know the fact is being what no Just, we were just, just, I was just bringing up the topic because you were talking about vigilante justice. Yeah. Yeah, I guess without like, without like a video of, of what happened before, maybe the person was attacking people on the subway. I haven't seen anything that showed that he was like hitting anybody or threatening to hit anybody. Who knows?

I don't know. Even if that, it's going to be very tough for a jury to sort out. If that dude was running down the train, slapping everybody in the face, he didn't deserve to die. That's crazy. Right. No, no, I totally agree with that. But I don't, like, I don't think he was trying to kill him. Yeah.

And that does matter in the eyes of the law. So that's why manslaughter would be the charge. If you unintentionally kill somebody, using a move that has been known to kill somebody in the past, it's like a gray area and it's tough to prove intention. But if he legitimately was not trying to kill him or if he didn't know that, that it could kill him, then sounds like manslaughter is the right charge. But if he knew that it might, then you could make the argument for murder, too. I doubt it.

Did he, has he spoken out? Well, he's not getting charged with murder. So, right. They're only going to try him for manslaughter. Because the thing is, if they charged him with murder and try to convict him on murder, he would get off. Like, yeah, and then you can't go back and retry. Yeah.

So. I've seen He hasn't said anything yet Well If you accidentally Kill a guy You probably call your lawyer And be like call

I'm saying like Like be a statement Has a lawyer released a statement or anything No I mean I blame I blame the city Like

I blame the government No offense Why are you defending this guy so hard Because I mean like You're sick of these streets And these criminals Like I

He can't even There's no 9 year olds on the subway anymore Like I get scared on the subway A lot Like there's a guy like sharpening his knife Next to me yesterday But like It's kind of like what it is sometimes

Like gonna It's like you gotta take the go out of the bat Billy let me Let me put a different scenario in front of you Okay You're at a bar in Hoboken Uh huh And you're really pissed off

Some guy like came up to him He was like Billy football You pussy and like and shoved you, right? Yeah. And then you punch this guy in the face and then you keep, he punches you back, you get into a fight, his friend sees you attacking his buddy, comes up behind you, puts you into a chokehold until you die.

What should happen to that guy that just killed you? Well, there'd probably be video footage of me basically getting jumped by two dudes. no no no you're fighting you're fighting with one no but i'm defending myself after he pushes me yeah but so he's a threat to me and i'm defending myself so that's but you're also you're that's manslaughter friend that's manslaughter if i go up to a guy and just start i don't know there would be video evidence in that situation like that would basically like get them convicted yeah like that situation weren't there cameras on the subway it'd be too much too many crimes

you catch too many people pissing in between the carts they don't want to know yeah same reason why there's not that many cameras on college campuses yeah it's a little like we we almost would rather turn a blind eye to every crime because we don't have the infrastructure necessary to prosecute everything that we see Those things would be gone in three months. That's also a good point. Yeah, they just get smashed.

People, no one would want to watch, like, watch that much footage of. Yeah, there's so many subway cars. Yeah. I think it would be, I think it would be doable. And maybe just, you know, it would be a city expense update the cameras every, you know, six months or whatever, three months. But the people, the people that had that job that would have to review the footage, would be like the people on Facebook that have to review every video that goes up and they spend two hours in a row watching just the most heinous shit possible and then they have to take like

mental health breaks every every two hours and talk to a therapist but what they just saw imagine people that had to review every single minute of a video on every New York subway but when they just review the footage of the timesams of something that happened that was reported which was All the reported stuff would be pretty heinous because they have to report it. Well, not what I'm saying? They don't just have to sit there and watch empty carts and people sit and they'd be like, okay, at 12 o'clock, boom, this was supposedly happened. And then we reviewed the footage. You don't have to like sit there and just watch subways.

What's a, has everybody, has everybody here? Maybe not you, Aaron, because you haven't spent that much time in New York, but has everybody seen somebody taking a shit, either in a subway station or on a car, jerking off? jerking off and pissing. Have you hit the big three? Yes. Doing crack. I've seen every. I've heroin. I'm trying to think of the craziest thing I've seen on the subway. Mostly just dudes jerking off. Me getting chased was pretty crazy. Yeah. That is crazy. Yeah. Oh, that seemed was peeing. Oh, no, I've seen two people fucking. On the subway? Yeah. It wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it was pretty disgusting. It wasn't.

What? It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't good? It wasn't like porn hub in real life. No, it was like Dirty Mike and the Boys. Others got other guys reference. What if it was hot people fucking on the subway? It wasn't like subway. Is that as bad of a crime? Uh, it was pretty disgusting.

Yeah. Yeah. No, I can see that. I'm pretty sure. You never forget your first public masturbator. Yeah. I don't think I've ever seen one. I've seen two up close.

Well, I've seen more than that, but two like up close. There was one guy that was in the subway station right next to our office. And I was getting off the train. And he was getting off himself. He was in a sleeping bag. And he was in the main vest of people. And people were just walking past him. It was rush hour.

And he was just cranking it, just laying on his back, just cranking it. And there were probably hundreds of people just walking past him. Just, okay, whatever. whatever. I'm not going to stop. I'm not going to pay any attention to this. That was a shocker to see for the first time. And then what would you? PFT hasn't it gotten worse since COVID? You can admit that. And I think it's more it doesn't have to do with no, no, no, no. No, I don't. I personally don't see any difference really. But what now for COVID when COVID hit the subway, there was nobody on it at all. And it was really easy. And you

wouldn't see that much stuff going on in that first year of COVID because nobody was really riding it. But I don't think that it's, I can't say honestly that it's worse now in my personal experience than what I saw for the first four years when I moved to New York. It's definitely worse. It's always been bad. Yeah, yeah. I was just going to ask you what, what would you have the people? You said these people just walk by and do nothing. What would you have them do? Stop and watch. No, it's just nobody was shocked by it. That's more of what I'm saying. Oh, I think, no, I think people are like that, but there's a, you just have no choice.

Like, I've been definitely shocked by things in New York, but you just, there's nothing you can do. Yeah. It's, it's like everybody was numb to the fact that there's just a guy jacking off in the middle of hundreds of people right now. Did you? That's more of the thing that was for me. Vandal Park in the Netherlands. Vondel Park is the largest. I'm sure I'm saying that wrong, but bondle park.

is the largest park in Amsterdam and the most famous in the Netherlands. Public sex became legal in the park in 2008. So you can have sex in public. That sounds like something the Dutch would do. Yeah. I mean, that's the least surprising thing. I mean, we have otherized it in the way

that's kind of wild to me. Like, sex is so taboo, but it's like, we're all here because of that shit. I don't, it's such sex. It's just boobs, just sex. Just boobs. This is what it is, right? We have like, we have just like,

naughty did it is just so naughty like yeah it's just that it's not a big thing dudes want to jerk off in front of other people on the subway no in a regulated park in a well regulated in a well regular a rel

the 69th 69th amendment a well regulated orgy yeah being necessary to the security of a definitely not free state it's uh there was another time that was shocking to me i was out for a run not to brag this was like five years ago and i was coming around a corner and as i was turning the corner

there was a guy that was just standing up on the sidewalk this was on the west side highway he was standing up on the sidewalk facing a building and just jacking off actually i think i was walking leroy i don't think i was running i'd like to take back my not to brag i was walking leroy and we walked around the corner and the guy was just cranking it and And as I turned the corner, he got shocked by me. He didn't expect me to be there. He definitely didn't expect Leroy to be there. And he just looked at us as he was finishing.

And then I was right next to him. And then he just shot all over his cardboard that he had laid down. And me and Leroy just turned around and walked the other way. It was pretty bad. There's actually, I like homeless people that I know. You know what I'm saying? Actually, it's more the, because there's homeless people that you see every day, like your local like the guy that and that's like there's this like there's on st mark's place

there's this guy i know there's some camaraderie it's like the zoom zoom guy you see him in the morning when he probably just got whatever he got and he's just like having a dance party by himself like the ones that you know that aren't like erratic like there's like a guy in hoboken people probably know he is he's the he's the screaming guy he just starts going wah and then he's like i need a cigarette and then he'll just run up too big i need a cigarette. I'm like, that guy, all he wants is a cigarette. And he probably just wants, like, peace. And then you see him with a like, like, like, then, but it's the random, like, yeah. It's just, you know that. Billy likes the homeless guys that are like, uh, characters in a children's book where you're walking down the street. And it's like,

oh, here's friendly Harry the postman. Oh, there's, there's, uh, Glenda the firefighter. Oh, that's homeless show, the beggar. And he wants all, he wants all his homeless people. to drop life gems on him and he walks by and he's like hey son you know life is like bro most homeless people like most homeless people I mean there are some like saying homeless people

but the majority of we're going through extreme mental issues and they and everyone around them has given up on them and so there's nobody to turn and I got bad news there's going to be more homeless people because nobody can afford to live anywhere good anymore

like it's the house housing crisis is just starting to show its ugly head, I think. You're going to see more people that get priced out of the cities they grew up in and they're not going to have anywhere a turn and they're going to go out on the streets. Well, I do think, I think there's definitely about, like, I was like reading a bunch about this because I thought Black Rock was trying to buy up every house in America to make us all rent and, you know, a little W.E.F. Rent everything. Oh, nothing be happy. But in reality, they're trying to stimulate more building like to what's the word? They're trying to like create a market where real estate developers and lenders like we

like need more housing. So they start building more housing. So more affordable housing gets built and that, you know, it's sort of the free market takes it's, you know, it does its thing and ends up. You sound like you're putting on a cape for Black Rock right now, Billy. I, I, I, I, I, I, because I was reading up on it, and I kind of didn't want to believe that, you know, we're in this dystopian future where, you know, Soros is turning our cities into, you know, dumpster fires so that property values go down and BlackRock can buy everything. And then we all become corporate slaves. I didn't want to believe that. So I started taking the rational approach. Yeah. It's not just BlackRock, but there's definitely like private equity money that's buying up a shitload of real estate. Also, foreign markets are buying up a ton of. of real estate in America right now holding on to it and then just trying to make a shitload of money of jacking up prices for rent, flipping them for even more money to their richer friends. Like that is a, it is a problem.

There is not enough affordable housing in America and it's going to get worse. Well, honestly, the work from home thing, I think is really going to help that problem because the whole idea of a commutable, commutable distance, I'm meeting like a bunch of people are older than me who are buying their first houses. And because they only need to go to the office two or three times a week, they're much more willing to make a hour and a half, two hour commute when they can work from home the rest of the time. So the radius around big cities that are commutable distances grown so much more. And that's not true for everybody who because a lot of people, you know, still show up to work, you know, get in front of a microphone

or, you know, actually do manual labor. But yeah. Well, I mean, I, I'm doing it right now. I'm living in the Virginia suburbs and then commuting to New York twice a week back and forth on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and then look at me. Not everybody is as fortunate as I am to be able to do a podcast

inside the Washington Commander's practice bubble. So maybe we just need to bring more. We need to build more practice bubbles across America so that people can host their podcasts in them. But for example, like a place like Poughkeepsie, New York or Kingston, New York might end up being a community. suburb to New York City. And all the property values out there is less because they're farther

from New York City. But those places are going to get bought, developed, and you're going to have affordable housing there. And then the commute is going to be a lot less of a stress on your day to day. So people find it worth it to, you know, live out there. There's a lot of land that people don't live on yet. Yeah. I mean, that's the big problem with that is it's getting bought up by people too. It's getting bought up by investors that are just going to hold on to it and they're not going to build something for the people on it. They're not going to build

neighborhoods with affordable housing. Real estate developers are going to always look to make more money. People are going to have fewer and fewer options, as all I'm saying. You can get a huge government subsidy for developing affordable housing, especially in New York in like

places like, you know, that have those things. Yeah. So by doing that, you're going to be able to, like, you're going to have affordable housing on those areas that are commutable. I hope so. I hope you're right. I hope I'm wrong. One of the one of my favorite things to do is just look at, uh, random cities or random suburbs across America and see how much house you could afford to live in given what you pay for rent. There's a place in Nebraska that's giving away free plots of land that have electric and, uh, you know, utilities on the street that you can plug into.

Like right now, we could apply for one of those plots of land, go take a tent or even RV out there and just start living on and build our own house. That, like, I'm half as sometimes thinking about that. That goes back to the whole sales technique where if somebody is giving, if somebody is giving me land for free somewhere, I'm like, I don't know. I'd rather pay for it. I mean, like you're coming on a little strong right now in Nebraska. Well, no.

Have some respect for yourself. It's a town in Nebraska. I mean, they just have a very low birth rate. No, nobody's like, not many people are moving to the town because, you know, the job's left in some regards. But with like remote work, I could hypothetically, you know, zoom in like we're doing now and live in Nebraska with the same salary, very low property tax and live like an absolute king. You know what they should do if they're facing like a dwindling population. It's the same thing that they do with like online dating apps. they should just pay attractive women to move there and just live there.

You don't, as long as you live in that house for like 300 days out of a year, you get paid 50 grand a year just to be in that city because if you get, if you get attractive women to live in your city, then people are going to move there. That's just how it goes. Well, in reality, they should, I mean, I'm not, I'm not like against migration. I'm not anti-migration, but that's a huge role that immigrants play in this country. is like, you know, keeping the population at a good amount. Like, do I believe, you know, what's happening at the southern border is correct

because it's incentivizing a lot of people to get into bad situations by trying to get to America and we should have better pathways? Yes, but like people like that, those plots in Nebraska would definitely help the country if, you know, people who want a better life from other countries go and live there. You know what I realized? And maybe this is because I grew up in northern Virginia in an area that was, it was like 50%, I think it still is about 50% Hispanic. And by that, I mean like El Salvadorian and Bolivian, Peruvian, not Mexican. It's more like central and South American countries.

And they, the people that immigrate over here, a lot of them immigrated illegally, they were the ones that were working, the construction jobs, all the jobs. all the jobs that nobody else wanted. It's really not that different for communities like that, the way that people from South and Central America are like discriminated against. It's really no different than what the Irish and Italians went through. 100%. 100 years ago, 200 years ago, when they were the nationality people that people that were already in America didn't want here, but they were the ones that were building everything. It's kind of the same thing that's been happening.

happening to a certain extent where it's just like the new class that's coming in the established class of people they don't want them well i think it's just an anti-catholic bias if you if you look good point i'm kidding but no good point philly what do all three of those cultures have in common just think about it reverence for the virgin mary um uh but it's more what more concerns me this is probably just like a new story like like the the hundred chinese now nationals like that are coming over the border like because it's such a poorest border that's probably like fear tactics by fox news but like what like what the hell how did they end up in mexico to try to get to the u.s and it's just like a bunch of military age men coming through

our southern border like that's never really been a good side like i've i've not heard that news yeah so i just want to hear what i'm hearing straight there's chinese men coming from the southern border. Is this like the secret Chinese police presence in New York City? I mean, that was real. I have no clue what we're talking about. Military aged men was the key, key term there.

I love that phrase. It's like we could say that this podcast is predominantly hosted by military aged men. It sounds so much more sinister when you say that. I'm come cut off. I'm done. You're going to take Billy before they take me. So did I, did I hear that? correctly, Billy, there was a hundred Chinese military age of men crossing the Mexican border.

I don't know. I don't know. I just think that's more of a national security risk because we can't vet all of them and let's say they're like literally working for the Chinese government trying to like get all of our secrets. Look, I'm not, this isn't xenophobic. This is like, like, like if they were Russian, like there could be Russians. There could be Russians coming over the Mexican border. You know how much I love Russians. I don't like Russians. I don't like Russians. I think you do. No, I like Rush. I don't like rush the Russian government. Russian people are fine.

I don't like the Chinese. I don't like the Chinese government. If you follow Billy's story arc. You follow Billy's story arc. You could see him slowly sliding right. And it's fascinating. He's in the pipeline. I'm not in the pipeline.

Do you think? I'm not here to judge. Do you think. But it's very, it's slowly. No, but like, let's say there's Russian nationals coming over the southern border. Because they know it's a weakness of ours and like infiltrating our country and military. apparatus to try like figure out how to stop the war you know that that that exact thing that exact thing has been happening for the last oh it's called the cold war yeah where they would get russians in

america that would then funnel stuff back to their home country that's been happening for i don't think that they need a southern border to sneak across they've been pretty good at at getting people here through legal means and then having them do illicit activities but maybe maybe bill is right maybe there's a hundred Chinese people that made their way to El Paso military age Chinese people Chinese men

Yeah I'm not I'm not I'm not discounted this door I just I have no idea I have no idea I just saw this footage It's just funny seeing your arc It's like But also let's acknowledge what Billy said

Which Billy said that He doesn't have a problem I don't I don't know He doesn't have a problem with Russian people He's got a problem with their government Yeah Hell yeah

That's a healthy way way to look at it. That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying. I'm a fan of your arc. It's not an arc, dude. It's definitely an arc. I just I would,

you know what I would like to do? I would like to, they had this extension that you could download on Twitter for a while where you could see like who various celebrities followed on Twitter where your timeline would just become

their timeline. So you get to like look at Twitter through the eyes of either Jack or Trump Actually wild I would like to see Billy's timeline If you took out everybody that worked at Barstool that he follows No I follow some cool stuff that isn't political No I know I'm just saying like including the animal fights videos

All that stuff I would like to see Twitter to the eyes of Billy football Now it's pretty Actually my 4U page has gotten pretty Oh I don't want to say that Yeah. Oh, no, you know, you know what's, you know what? Remember we were talking about that homeless guy that got shot that was on everybody's for you page? I don't even look at my four you page. Do you remember that video that came out of St. Louis and a guy just getting shot in the head, a homeless guy? I did not see that. That was on a lot of people's four you pages. Wait time out. You, you, you actively go on your four you page?

Well, I accidentally end up there on on TikTok or Twitter. Twitter. Any, any, any, I'm more concerned. on Twitter, but on any platform. No, but remember we talked about how the 4U page, like, where you're seeing, like, fucked up videos? My 4U page on Twitter is great. I love my 4U page on Twitter. It's just Braves and Tennessee reporters. We were talking about this.

We've had this exact same conversation. That's how you should experience Twitter. Oh, it's perfect. And it's guys that, like, I don't want to follow because I don't want everything all day clogging my feed, but when I go over there, I know that's what I'm getting. So it's perfect. I have yet to even click on my 4U page or refuse. it's actually not that bad once you're going to curate it

I mean that's what I'm saying it's like they're going to feed you what they think you what you like and so I'm not interested in what ever algorithm at Twitter feels like I need to be interested in my personal experience they nail it so you may want to give it a chance that was back when Twitter was like trying to whatever like videos got the most

visceral reactions got like on the 4U page we had this conversation and there was a good consensus that like yeah there's crazy videos on the 4U page yeah there definitely were like crazy fight videos and violent videos and stuff I did not see the the guy in St. Louis getting shot in the head fortunately

I will say this I just went to my 4U page right now I haven't been there in a while first thing comes up Miley Cyrus music video out now and then right after that macrodosing in some areas in Brazil police ride water buffaloes good tweet Billy

Let me see I'm for you They're mounted police on water buffalo Okay The first one that pops up is A guy by the MFD Signifier He's a leftist YouTube

Video essayist Sounds like they got you down pretty good I reckon I love video essays on YouTube And then macro dosing We're committed to the Wyoming. Oh, y'all just let this off.

Yeah. Yeah, that was just like me right now. Some woman pouring chocolate into a cup, chocolate. Oh, I haven't seen those videos. It's, I don't, I don't, there's like these weird videos of these

two girls, like really aggressively making large cups of coffee. And they're just like looking pissed off as fuck. And some guy by the name of 8-bit idiot It says Johnny Depp sucks so fucking hard during the court case. I actually believe that fucker. But then you find out all the shit was suppressed and you realize the guy is a goddamn cycle.

I literally have not searched or thought about Johnny Depp maybe in two years. It's taken date, three days to get halfway through the Avatar sequel. Come on, Mike. Cut the shit, Mike. It was long. And my brother. It was good. Saw are baseball games.

Not anymore. That's true. I can barely get through a chicken bucket. The Braves had a game. The Braves had a game the other night. There were 12 runs scored in like 25 hits and it was like two hours and 20 minutes. It was crazy. I think we should because I'm not well enough in the baseball scene to like start this shit,

but y'all should start this shit. Start like protesting games until they cut that shit out. Because I haven't seen a fan that likes it. Oh, no, no, no, everyone loves it. I like it. No. Wait, the pitch clock, overwhelming majority.

Wait, wait, the pitch clock? What? Wait, what's not to like? I don't get it. Dude, the pitch lock sucks. No, but you're, only if you're there. You're saying this because you want longer time to drink alcohol. I like eating, I like experiencing the day at the ballpark.

It's supposed to be a day at the ball game, not two short hours rushed out. You can go beforehand. It's, no. The stadiums here suck for that, actually. but I do dislike it in person because it's so much shorter but on TV if you're watching on TV every single night it's great okay well that's the correct take

because I don't I don't watch baseball on TV right that's what my only experience in baseball games is live and it just feels like you just show up and then it's over it's like so quick and my previous experience of baseball games going to was just the greatest sporting event to in my opinion it's so fun I went to a double header

earlier this year. They played two games back to back. Even with the 45 minutes between them, it was probably only like five hours. I love that. I love that. If games get like rained out and stuff, they'll, then they have to make them up. I need to do a double head. Yeah. Fire. Yeah. I might just but is that more expensive? Uh, there's sometimes they'll do, you have to leave and come back with a separate ticket, but this one was one

admission. You can stay. So one thing. Imagine that the NFL played a double header. Oh, my God. How electric would that be? That's just dangerous. That's just dangerous, dude. That would hurt, man. That would hurt.

That would hurt, right. I don't, hell not. That's just so dangerous. I think, so Big T and Billy and Aaron, you guys have the correct take, which is if you go for a single game, then the pitch clock kind of sucks because it feels like it's pushing you out of the ballpark too soon but if it's a double header being able to watch two games in five and a half hours is awesome yeah it was good true but there's not how many how many how many double headers are

there a year they're that i don't know most teams will end up playing two or three or four just because if games get rained out and stuff yeah it's more of a weather thing they used to schedule them so long time ago in yankee stadium they put in uber eats i used it this weekend so that's the only I think unfortunately well actually fortunately it's just something it's how you got to adjust the shorter games next time I go because a lot of people tell me look they they've started to do in seat delivery for food and drinks and that's how they've been really trying to substitute the in game experience for the pitch clock so that's kind of what you got to do it's more expensive and hopefully ticket prices go down a little because of that but you just have to order all the food to your seat. But they also sometimes don't have the specialty food, like the steak sandwich and left field or, you know, like the nice Italian sausage. I, like, only like a couple things. I got a chicken bucket Friday at the Yankees game, and I did the Uber Eats pickup. So I just don't have to wait in the line.

Oh. And so I, it tells you what section it's in. And then I ordered it on Uber Eats. And then I just went and picked it up. And then I just didn't, I literally just like skipped the line. The only thing. And I love a chicken bucket. The only thing they haven't figured out is the bathroom situation.

So until they put like some sort of catheter type thing at the seat, so I don't have to get up to pee, then they would have solved all the problems with the pitch clock. Yeah, there's no Uber. There's no Uber Eats for taking a piss. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, actually, there is an invention out there. I don't know if it still exists, but it was a thing back when I was in college. I never used it, but we would always talk about maybe get.

one is called a stadium pal and it's just a uh it's just like a little kind of condom thing that goes over your your wiener and then it's got tube at the end that connects to like an iv bag or a catheter bag a camelback you strap your leg yeah camelback so you can just sit there and not get up and piss onto your leg uh for for the duration of the game what if you've got a particular how how big is it i mean because you're not looking at it we don't you're not looking at it no no no no not for your dick how big is the bag like how much can it fit because you're not looking at it while you're pissing so you could aquarium size yeah three gallons 10 gallons yeah

you're playing a dangerous game if you're guessing how how full it is my person I got the Magnum Stadium pal right I don't know what size you guys would get I need the I would probably it's a lot at games like Oh, I never do. It's not always been really, like, I could hold it if I have to, like, and this is just a dire need, but usually I could, I'll be good. I never. I'll be honest with you guys, getting older, you see a difference.

I don't know if you see a difference yet, Aaron, but I definitely have to pee more. My difference comes at night. So, like, at night, it hasn't happened lately, actually. But I used to have a little, like, pee bottle, like, by my bed. Because it'll be like two in the morning and I had to get up. And there's nothing worse in my opinion than getting up having to be in the middle of the night. I hate it.

So I just got a pee bottle to roll over, pee, go back to sleep. You are too rich for that. That's true. I was going to say, you should get a urinal put into your bedroom. I've even left piss jugs. Left piss jugs at college. I have a urinal in my bathroom. That's dope.

Well, you got, you have bottles of piss just sitting out in the open air on your bedside table. I'm not a fucking heathen, bro. it's a piss bottle and I cleaned it out. I haven't done it since my remodel actually. Wait, you reuse it? Yeah, you wash it out. Okay. You don't get a new one every time?

Why do you wash it out? It's just urine. Stero and I like taste. Oh, no, no. You got to change it out. You are also rich enough to not have to reuse the piss bottle. As I work through this, I don't know if it's better to have one or multiple. No, you want to have multiple. You want to have the gallon

jug that you drink all day then you pee in and then you throw out and then you get the new piss jug. Oh no, this is an actual pee bottle that's for that. Oh. Like it's made for that. You thought I was just pissing in a designing bottle? Yeah. No.

No. This is, it's made for that. You have a bedpan. It's like a little plastic joint with a handle and it's bent, you know? Oh, you have a real. Yeah. Oh, I thought you meant like a a water bottle. No, that's weird.

So I just had like, you ever seen signs with Mel Gibson just made bottles of water just all over the house. But honestly, it's like that with piss. I wouldn't, I wouldn't let, you know,

the whole peeing thing actually distract me from going from a game because you know what makes going to the game like the easiest and most convenient thing ever? Oh, I use it this weekend. Tell us, tell us, Billy. Game time.

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Sorry. I don't know how that happens. Madeline, you used game time this weekend? I did. I used game time to go to the Yankees game. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, it was awesome. The bottom day of, it was cheap. I was looking today. This is partly because they're a joke of a franchise and so bad, but on

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And I'm excited to talk about it. I've done some research, Billy. And Aaron, actually, you threw this topic out there, right? Yeah. This one. Yeah, so we're going to get into it. Before we do, though, Billy, I had a question for you, though, because you brought it up a little bit yesterday on part of my take.

I'd like to hear you expand on it because your blog was published. Also, I should have said this at the top. If you're watching on YouTube, I am in the Washington Commander's Practice facility today. Shout out to the team. They were nice enough to let me come over and use it. Wi-Fi. There were some issues going on with Wi-Fi at my mom's place. So just hop right over here. The commanders are awesome. I'm very excited to be fully blooded back in on Washington football. Even though I did root for them as hard as I could for the last 25 years, there was a

certain element that made it difficult sometimes. Now I'm all the way back. And the commanders are awesome. So shout out to them. If you're watching on YouTube right now, you see the commander's son right over there on the bubble. You see that goalpost that I just touched because I still got bunnies. So shout out to them. Did you, there's rumors that you are now a partial owner

of the commanders, but you just don't want to publicize it. That's why you're allowed to use the facility. I can't confirm nor deny that. I can't. Look, I won't confirm or deny it either. Just there's rumors. I actually, I actually don't know.

I actually don't know who owns the team right now. we're in like a weird middle ground where it's Schrodinger's cat of teams it's an escrow I don't know it could be like this might be international waters right now you might be able to just go squat yeah title right now you might be able to get titles just go there and claim the title I own I need to get into that sovereign citizen shit oh my god that's this funniest in the world just start running around the field saying I own this team I own the title And then if they don't have title insurance, that means you could actually get a claim to it. I own this team.

I own this bubble. Do I have to pee? Do I have to mark my territory? Yes. That's going to get you kicked out. That will get me kicked out. No, but shout out to the commanders. They've been very helpful today.

So very, very thankful that they're hooking it up right now. But Billy, you wrote a blog. Congratulations. I write a lot of blogs. Just a lot of them don't. get posted. And this one wouldn't have got posted if business. So I had this story like two

days ago and I was working on it. And then so the reason why the Reddit post got taken down wasn't because J.P. Morgan Chase took it down. Business Insider actually took it down because they didn't want anybody else to get the scoop. So

Wait, so the Reddit post got taken down by business insider? Yeah. To get the scoop first. So then yesterday. Wait. How do you know that happened? Just some rumblings amongst the moderators of the, of the, because basically a random moderator to the group took it down. But anyway, they released their article on it. And I had the article before them.

And you can tell because I said on part of my take, but my article wasn't posted yet. But because everyone was like, oh, Billy's going off about some crazy AI shit that's not real. He's like sound of the alarm. they got the scoop faster because they're no one actually believe me and then i was like guys business insider just posted it and then mine got up but i had it much earlier basically so j p morgan chase is monitoring all of its employees i got a couple dms about it before the reddit post so once i saw all of it i was like okay it's corroborating and here's here's the dm from one dude um that dm e said so i'm at

JP Morgan and keep me anonymous, but I've accidentally came across the data and it is scary some of the shit this stuff can report. Reports of people doing cocaine on late on a Friday night while they were in front of their work computer finishing up, like complete invasion of people's privacy in their life. So yes, investment bankers, a lot of them do cocaine, but they're getting recorded after like, oh, I just finished my workday. It's, you know, 10.30 p.m. on a Friday and ripping a line and it's getting reported to J.P. Morgan Chase because they've tapped their computers even when they're turned off and they don't think their microphone or their cameras are on.

A couple of other stories. And the craziest part is that all of the cameras in the office are tracking body language, eye tracking and literally collecting all this data to determine like the moods of employees and then reporting it to managers if like someone's having a bad day or like being lazy, they can report it to a manager and a manager can then check in on the person, even when they're at home in the office,

but they're just collecting so many data points on inefficient work. And then it's they're ranking all the workers determining on how much they work in their productivity. And they rank them and they say that they're not supposed to use it for any employment status, but it's out there for managers to see. Like you guys is,

is you know like that's that's like crazy that corporations are now able to abuse their workers privacy and like basically control their whole life through AI yeah I mean that sucks that sucks but I also wouldn't expect anything less from like a bank yeah because they're all about the bottom line I actually would would say if I'm an investor in JP Morgan I would not want the people that are spending all their time on their work computer to be employed at JP Morgan Shay. I want that. I want guys out in the field closing deals. I want people taking clients out to three martini lunches doing Coke on Wall Street in some seedy basement with a secret handshake to get into. That's the guy that I want closing deals for me. I don't want a nerd that's

just on their computer lab, their office issued laptop all day. I don't think that even happens anymore. Oh, it does. I think like with like much higher ups. But they're not the ones who are getting monitored. Yeah, no, that sucks. And I don't know, just don't work for an employer, employer that does that. Well, the thing is Amazon's been doing it with their warehouse workers, like, you know,

biological breaks, I think it was called. Biological function breaks are to be less than like five minutes and like tracking. like if you don't scan like even with their delivery people when driving they track their eyes and track if they like you know look at something on the side of the road they count that as bad driving which right happens and is technically bad driving if you're not like focusing on the road but like that's pretty intrusive that's not a bad driver right exactly it's not a bad driver but they're like docking pay for people like looking like off to the side for a second while driving.

It's almost as if these major corporations need to be regulated. Well, I think their use of AI, yeah. And taxed. I think there's some serious antitrust that could be applied to many of these corporations, but the lobbyists have bought out all the people who would enact antitrust laws. Okay. Come back over to the dark side, Billy. No, this isn't dark side.

This is in free market. Sounds like Billy, sounds like Billy's arguing very strongly in favor of having strong trade unions. I've never been, I think there needs to be better antitrust. And because the thing is when Amazon owns the majority of the distribution networks when it comes down to e-commerce, I mean, that's not a free market. That's not great. Yeah. But, but, it's almost there. It's just so funny.

But if they broke up in the arc, right? No, this is, this is part of the delusion of the arc where you're so forward. free market capitalism and you're so for free markets and freedom in general that you realize the end of capitalism is exactly what's happening complete monopoly it's the it's the only logical result now billy if they broke up in amazon or a bunch of these big conglomerates then all the different offshoots would still they would start using AI because they would realize that it was making them more money and they were able to monitor their employees more efficiently unless there was some sort of collective bargaining

that took place at the employment level where you could make sure that employers were not allowed to do that, right? I do think that a lot of the freedoms that we thought the government might take away from us are now going to be, you know, corporations through privatization are going to abuse those rights that we thought

only an entity as large as the government could control. Huh. Yeah. Fascinating conclusion. So I think we saw Sam Altman, Sam Altman went in front of Congress and was like asking them to regulate AI in the future. If there's one group of people I don't trust to be able to regulate AI sufficiently, it's a bunch of 80-year-old dudes that are sitting there trying to even wrap their brains around what an email is, you know? I know. I don't, how the hell are these people living so long?

Gen of Chrome. Baby blood. Yeah. Yep. I know. Let's regulate that. Yeah, regulate baby blood. I mean, whatever, yeah.

All right. I thought COVID was supposed to take a lot of these people out. What? Jesus Christ. That was so harsh. What? Jesus. What?

I just want all the old people. I almost called you my dog's name, like, based off of, like, an innate, reaction. What's your dog's name? Rudy. Rudy, that's sad. But like almost it was like too, it was like when you like eat something off the counter. Like you have to stop me.

Like when your parents call you by their like their full name. William. That's hilarious, though. What a funny thing. Stop someone. No, Rudy. Oh my God, Rudy. Rudy.

Billy's cost of us. But did a single, well, actually, that's a good question, though. Did any congressman die of COVID? No. I don't know. Yeah, didn't, um, uh, what's his name? Someone in Congress? Did anyone in like, in Washington in the, I don't think so.

I don't remember one. Congress is both the House and the Senate, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Just like, did anybody in the House? Uh, yeah. This Texas,

Texas Republican died after he tested tested positive. Ron Wright. Louisiana Congressman-elect dies from COVID. Oh, so he was elected. He wasn't actually. This one, Congressman Ron Wright died at age 67 from COVID in February 8, 2021. Not Ron White. Who is a great Texan? Ron Wright. Have you guys seen Feinstein recently? Oh, yeah. rough. She's going to be regulating AI. Yeah. That woman.

What, Billy? I just gave a shrugly. No, I was going to get rudied again. Say it. What? Nothing. You can't do that. I didn't mean to be disrespectful to anyone who lost family members, but like.

But like what? It's just like the median age of Congress is so high that you probably think that like the percentage wise of the rest of the population would be a little bit comparative to that group of people. I don't want to do it. Don't do it. I don't do it. I'm not trying to get into it. I'm not trying to get into it. I'm just like saying like that's just a statistical anomaly. It isn't.

I think. Just don't do it. Yeah. I mean, I'm not. They're always going to be old people in Congress. because it's a power of name recognition. So if somebody just gets elected once,

it's proportionally very, very difficult to defeat them. Yeah. There's a lot of corruption, too. Once you win, like you on and there's, you know, powers that be, that have an incentive to keep you in the seat if you keep voting the same way. Is George Santos still a congressman?

He has not stepped down. he's been in like uh has he been in jail no he's just been indicted so what they well I think he went like turned himself in and was arrested technically but then he was immediately did he pay bail I would assume so yes I believe that's what happened

George Santos bail because we'll see how much money he has while you look that up half a million bond secured by three individuals that's crazy you only got to pay like what 10% or something yeah um Did you all see this Harry and Megan thing last night?

Of course. I did. Yeah. Who's Harry and Megan? The Royals, the Ginger Royal. No. So they supposedly got in a two-hour-long, quote, near-catastrophic car chase in Manhattan, and apparently, like, it just didn't happen.

I think they just never really rode a New York City traffic before. A two-hour-long car chase, what? Did I get them from Times Square? Where to the Lincoln Tunnel? Yeah, but it seems like it's probably cap. They were in a car chase? That's what was alleged. But it seems like it probably didn't happen.

The NYPD says they have no record of that happening. They were in a car chase. NYC taxi drivers just drive like that regularly. I don't think we'll ever see like a media frenzy like that around celebrities anymore. like it's there's too much content people are have so much access to the things that they enjoy there's just nobody cares like that anymore there's so many more now where there's some were there some media members that were like taking pictures of them probably did that piss them off also yes probably but then i i read about that this morning and i think they leaked the details

to tmz right like harry and megan leaked those details it seems that way yeah here's a maybe i'm maybe i'm missing something though big t if if you wanted to get paparazzi to stop chasing you everywhere would you then excuse me leak stories to tmz i don't think that was the goal i think they're just attention course oh wait wait so in an interview that's what i'm saying i think they love it taxi so this taxi driver made a statement in this is the washington post taxi drivers Oh, man, this Suckcharne Singh said he picked up Harry, Megan, an older black woman and one security guard around 11 p.m. on Tuesday outside the New York City Police Department's 19th precinct. He said he drove them for a brief period during which it, I don't think I would call it a chase. I never felt like I was in danger. It wasn't like a car chase in a movie. They were quiet and seemed scared, but it's New York. It's safe. Yeah, so here's what it seems like happened. This says Harry and Megan left the Zekefield ballroom with private security with them around 10. 10 p.m. Police say the couple wanted to go back to where they were staying on the Upper East Side. Harry and Megan didn't want paparazzi to know where they were going, so they drove around for an

hour and 15 minutes with one NYPD vehicle escorting their vehicle. So they were just like circling because they didn't want people to know where they were. Then they went. The Sussexes were driven to the 19th precinct and stayed there for about 15 minutes while police helped get the pair get off the block and they got into a different car. So they were just like trying to make sure that people didn't know where they were staying. And then they said it was a near catastrophic car chase. They need to have body doubles. They need to get Carson Wentz in a tuxedo and then put him into like a duplicate SUV and then make the paparazzi figure out who's who. In their defense, the taxi driver did say they were pursued by two vehicles, a black

Honda cord and a gray Honda CRV. They kept following us and were coming next to the car. They took pictures as we stopped and were filming us. So the guy, the guy driving. didn't feel like the paparazzi were interfering with his ability to drive, but they were being followed. But it doesn't sound like a catastrophic car chase. I think,

I think, near catastrophic. I mean, in Harry's defense, you could say anything's near catastrophic. Harry's mother did die in a similar, like a similar potential situation.

Exactly. With paparazzi, so he's definitely more sensitive to it. So I'd give him a break here. Harry's Princess Diana's Yes. Yes. Yes.

And William. Oh. Okay. Yeah. I would probably also hate photographers if I was him. Exactly.

The whole obsession is just, I know we've talked about it multiple times but I don't understand why anybody gives a fuck. Do they do those reporters get paid to follow them around?

For pictures. Yeah, if you get pictures, they sell them. Okay. Whoever gets the best picture. It is just weird to complain about paparazzi's

two TMZ. It'd be like if you complain about like vigilante justice on the subway and you called Phoenix Jones you're like hey man you'll never believe what this happened to me this needs to stop they're definitely trying to get sympathy

but I feel like if they wanted to like I think they have enough money between the both of them to just go live somewhere totally secluded in a self-sufficient like do they get funded by the state or like do they have jobs I think they kind of don't have much money now

because they're they left She has her own money They definitely have enough money How much PFT's richer than her She's like a D-list actress Yeah probably Honestly

They that's why What's her network Said they left Who left? Harry and Megan Like quit the royal family basically Harry did I think

And moved to Canada slash America Hold on now How you quit a family I'm interested So technically I might want to pursue the same They quit the royal part

The apparatus Which includes their family. The apparatus. They renounce their throne. Yes. Well, the apparatus around the royal family is they have like kind of handlers and people who find who finance their actions. And basically, uh, boosters. Kind of.

Yeah. They have boosters. And basically, uh, they do several events for the government that in turn end up like, you know, they like open hospitals. They do all like the ceremonial stuff. And for those events, they get end up like a certain amount of stipend. and besides like they're basically trust funds they're getting from not by the state but by these so the state pays them for doing their duties their royal duties which is technically their job and they end up like getting competitive with each other because there's a lot of low class royals

not low class like lower ranking on the totem pole yeah so like they're like prince andrew is like ranked lower than prince charles the king because he's the second brother and like he's opening a hospital in north england which isn't as prestigious as a hospital if he was like opening one in london and basically that's how they that's their job per se like doing ceremony but harry basically quit that said i don't want do any ceremonies i don't want any royal duties i don't in turn he gets no money from the royal family and they moved to new york and none of the perks no they moved to california but yeah partly Canada partly several places in america but That's why they're doing every interview and book that they can because they're poor.

It says her net worth is $60 million. Oh, my ass. So it's like, what, a third of PFT? No chance. No chance. Why are you so convinced that they don't have any money? They definitely have money. Because they, I'm sure they have some, but they do every.

Well, she was a dog shit actress before she hitched her wagon to him. They do every interview opportunity they can. He wrote his book where he tracked. his whole family. There's also a clip where they're talking to, I believe it's Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney and Harry's talking to him and he's like, you know, Megan, she does

voices and voiceover stuff. Like, if y'all are ever looking for someone in an animated movie, like she can do it. They for sure... That's a good husband right there. That's a supportive husband. Now, I don't know the sides, right? But if I was to guess like

monarchists, people who want the monarchy continue will take your view big t about trashing harry and megan is it harry and megan yeah is that is that am i correct in that assessment i mean i guess yeah because they left the royal family but i think they left the river why are you so hard on them i don't know i think they did what you probably would want is to try to break their shit up oh my god the i don't care about it one way or another i just think they seem kind of like losers and they want attention at every single turn. That's the thing.

If I had that much money. You kicked out the royal family Bigtie. Hold on. Hold on. Okay. I think it kicked out the royal family. They left. They were not kicked out. Okay, you leave the royal family. Again, you bang up. Supposedly because the attention is so overwhelming and they can't take it anymore.

No, and Megan was treated racist. People were racist towards Megan and the family. That's probably some truth to that. And so but now what do you do for money though, Bigsy? You can't. I don't know. go work a regular job you you go on book tours you go like sure and there's nothing wrong with that that's that's great for them but they banging on them because they're just they're losers

if you had is there there is a way like like this they like they drive i want to get down to this because like they are anti monarchists just like you're an anti monarchist and like you don't fuck with them like like because they drive home in a car and say they were in a near catastrophic car chase and they you know that's a little more understandable think what you could be angry at them about is that they want to be left alone and there are plenty of ways with as much money that they have to be left alone like for example yeah you could just stop you could just go away i could if i like it's a very simple solution to their supposed problem go buy a ranch in california that has access to all the amenities that you like

like living you know restaurants whatever have it you know really secluded from everybody you know you don't have to work just leave everybody alone like work on a farm just raise your kids like have them away from the spotlight live a quiet life like you know how many like you know american royalty former athletes former celebrities have lived quiet lives after being superstars and have able to stay out of the spotlight a lot i think what big t gets upset about is that they they they beg for sympathy they essentially they're they're born into extreme privilege and now they want people to feel bad for them because their privilege is making their lives

are precisely and we're probably not helping the situation by well no they brought it up so like people talk about them because of that I wouldn't have heard about it if y'all all of their behavior is antithetical to their supposed

goals yeah I mean if okay I got you let's let's talk about how I was genuine okay so the royal family may have came from the middle of the earth from a race of mole people Wait, wait, wait, before you do that

I have, no, no, Billy's cooking before you can't put up Billy's claim like that So the whole royal blood thing might be because they might be descended from a race of people living in the middle of the earth Okay, go on, go on, no, I'm joking. Actually, you want to call it that, like, there's actually people who are, is it the reptilian?

Yep, they might be the reptilians that live in the center of the earth. Yeah. No, David, I. Come on. so should we call in our guy because he said he's ready to go whenever okay can can you give him 15 minutes yeah and we can just we'll set the table actually can we do it in like let's let me set the table of like the whole theory uh and then when this guy gets on you'll understand what he's saying because there's some crazy and i'm talking about this dude we about to bring on that is he's an expert he's on billy's list

so i wore the is he an actual hollow earth guy or he's knowledgeable about it says yes he believes this shit is real. This guy has messaged me since the start of the show that we need to talk about Hollow Earth. And every time I bring up a little bit of Hollow Earth, he's like, yes, thank you so much for talking about the Hollow Earth. And, you know, this

that's fucking go. Yeah. So strap in, everybody. No. Hollow Earth, Halloward is an interesting phenomenon. I think this has anyone seen Saturday Night Live when it's a phenomenon? When Stefan is

like the newest club is this. It has everything. Yeah. The hollow earth is this. It is everything. Reptillions, UFOs, mole people, royal family, Nazis, Antarctica. Located right below the Earth's crust.

Okay. It's the flatter. Right off the bat. Right off the bat, I'll listen to a flat earther because it is kind of shady that we have, we haven't been able to get to the center of the earth, right? We've gone out into the galaxy. We've explored the outer reaches of outer space, but we have not been able to drill that on farther than what?

I actually said hollow. No, no, this is actually really interesting. This is really interesting to conceptualize. Let me rewind that. Wait, like, yeah, we've been able to go to space, but we haven't gone much of the Earth. Let me give you some statistics that really opens your eyes to how crazy the Earth is in comparison to what we've seen on Earth. So think about this.

Okay. So everyone, if a lot of people have heard the myth that if you shrank the earth down to a billiard size pool ball, that the earth would be smoother than a pool ball. That's kind of true, but it would be more equivalent to a 320 grit sandpaper. So not exactly smooth, but like a beat up pool ball. Are you calling Cap on Neil deGrasse Tyson? Yeah, I actually am. I found the thing that debased everything you just said. Mount Everest would be about half the size of a grain of salt.

0.15 millimeters on a pool ball. Yeah, if it was the scale of a bowling, wait. Oh, no, so at the scale of a bowling ball, Mount Everest would be the size of a half the size of a grain of salt. So think about that in comparison to what the earth is. and now think about the oceans would be one-third the height of a grain of salt on the scale of a bowling ball. So think about that's how deep the ocean would be if the earth was the size of a bowling ball. Like less than a film that your hands would barely get wet holding it.

So if you put drops of water on a bowling ball, that's deeper than what the ocean is on our earth's surface. So, yeah, it sounds like you're saying that Neil deGrasse Tyson's full of shit. yes there's a lot of like in theory he's right but it's closer like pool balls are like much smoother than a fine like equivalent like it's it's more of like sand no but wait but wait Billy what you just did you you you kind of you used a an object that's a bowling ball that's bigger than a pool ball so we could understand how rough the bowling ball would be what if you shrank that bowling ball down to the size

of a cue ball then it would be would it or would it not be smooth than a cue ball because it sounds like neil might have 24 hours to respond yeah well neil can respond but it would be around 320 grit sandpaper if it was pool ball size if it was bowling ball size it would probably be much rougher in like half a grain of salt would be mount everest so think about that would probably be the right the roughest part of putting your hand over it um but think about this so that's how big the oceans are on a bowling ball Now, think about this. On that, like, tiny amount that we actually know exists, like, less than 10% of the global ocean is mapped. So think of that whole bowling ball and that tiny film of water on top of it. We've only explored 10% of it and only 35% has been mapped with modern methods. So think about that, about how much we know about this bowling ball is only, you know, the land mass, which is. How much is the landmass of how much is Earth?

Sorry. There's cost. No, I understand the concept. There's so much unexplored part of this bowling ball. And yes. And when you think about like how the distances that we've traveled from Earth and we still don't know, we still haven't been underneath the Earth's crust really. With the exception of like they have, I don't know if it's X-ray MRI imaging, whatever the case may be, you can, you can. can use different technology that we have to look inside the earth and that's how they figured

out what the mantle is what the core of the earth is made out of that sort of thing we haven't been down there you know how deep the biggest hole that we've ever dug is 7.5 miles yeah and think about this the distance to the center of the earth is 4,000 miles so we've dug less than 1% of 1% into the earth's crust so there's a hell of a lot of earth wait wait wait wait wait you said 4,000 miles 7.5 divided by 4,000

do that math that's not 1% of 1% it's 0.001 it's 1 tenth of 1% it's 1 tenth of 1% correct so not 1% it's just very little.

What's also weird is that we kind of gave up on trying to get down to the center of the earth because it's been, what, 50 years since that hole has been dug, maybe longer, maybe 60 years. Or is there a reason? It was funny because in the Cold War, there was like a inversion of the space race

between the United States and the Soviet Union where we also tried to see you could dig the biggest hole. And the United States tried to dig one. And we gave up. I think we dug it actually off the coast of Mexico. and we went underneath the ocean there and then dug down something like 700 feet from the bottom of that part of the ocean and then we just gave up and then the Soviets did it the Soviets have a giant hole that they dug that's the one that we're talking about right now that one is called the cola super deep borehole yeah and that's a pretty that's a pretty deep hole but really it's not it's not anything compared to how far down it goes so obviously obviously in situations like this, when you dig down deep enough, then you start to hit like molten lava, molten sulfur, a lot of crazy shit. But we still haven't even tried

to get down past that. We need to figure out, we need to send another team out there to just dig a giant hole. Just get a bunch of dudes with shovels and see how deep we can get it using today's technology. Yeah. And thinking like what's nuts is there's heat at the center of the earth. So if you didn't have access to sunlight, there still could be, you know, thermal energy source underground. Like, if you needed to, you could generate like electricity and live. Like, there's life forms that didn't have genesis with the sun that live on our thermal vents underneath the ocean that I've never seen this sun. And they literally developed as life forms that depended on the heat of the center of the earth, which is very different than any other life

form because most of most life forms have some sort of connection to photosynthesis and depending on the sun yeah we need to we need to dig man we need to get back to dig or maybe we don't because we don't want to go down there because there might be some crazy shit down there I want to know us I personally I think that we should we should make a space force but it's just for digging just the dig it dig some big holes come on guys yes some sandhogs get the sandhog so the sandhogs were the guys that dug the new york city subways and uh the sandhogs doesn't elan have a company the boring company yeah that specialize in this sort of thing why doesn't elan just dig a giant hole so the the hollow earth theory was actually

pretty uh pretty popular back in the day there was a couple of guys that pretty trustworthy guys that believed in the middle of the earth being hollow in that so one of the first was john cleaves sims junior he was an 1812 war general and his theory described the world is consisting of five concentric spheres kind of like a china a russian doll like there's multiple uh inside each other or a everlasting gobstopper yes with space in between them and he visualized the Earth's crust as being approximately 1,000 miles thick

with an Arctic opening about 4,000 miles wide and an Antarctic opening. So he proposed that the curvature of the rim of these polar openings was gradual enough that would be possible to actually enter the inner earth

without being aware of the transition. He argued that due to the central fugal force of the Earth's rotation, the Earth would be flattened at the poles leading to a vast passage into the inner earth. His concept of polar openings connecting the earth's surface to the inner earth was to be his unique contribution to

hollow earth lore. Such polar openings would become known as Sims holes in the literary hollow earths. So a lot of hollow earthers believe that there's a hole on the north pole and the south pole. That's the only way to get into the center of the earth. Say the word

before forces that starts with a sea again. It's central fugal. Centrofugal? I don't think it's centrifugal. All right. Come on. I just read it. That was decent. Hold on. But before that dude, if I'm not mistaken, there's a dude by the name of Edmund Haley.

This was like in the 1600s. Yes. Edmund Haley was a dude that did figure out Haley's comment or predicted its return. And I think Newton's involved in that story somehow, but I forget. But he was like, he was an astronomer. He was a mathematician. He was, I think it was like an international spy. He like fucking did everything.

um and he thought that earth was hollow as well and he like wrote a whole bunch of shit about it it is pretty wild ancient cultures also described there being a hollow earth um and a lot of occultists it gets it gets a little weird how many like a lot of uh religions believe in the underworld so that was supposed to be like oh the earth's hollow underneath the ground there's another world that is under so that hollow hollow earthers count that is part of their like lore body of evidence yeah yeah yeah uh there is a place called

the gate of hell in turk ministan yes billy i i i knew that you would be a a gate of hell stand yeah they they dug a hole and then it's just been on fire for years i think it's a i want to say a methane deposit natural gas yeah yeah it looks awesome if you look at the pictures of it it does look like a it's the most metal thing that you've ever seen some people actually some

hollow earthers think that we actually live in the center of the hollow earth and that it's actually like a halo ring but like a we're inside a a sphere in that yeah it doesn't really make sense though no i'm not let's go i'm no neil de grass tyson but if you were to send somebody down to the center of the earth, wouldn't the pressure be so severe on all sides that you would just, you would just combust, you would just, your body would implode on itself? Yeah. Yeah. So, you know how when they send submarines down to the bottom of the ocean, when James Cameron

feels like he needs to make another movie and he goes way down there, he's in that reinforced submarine, right? And if there was a tiny crack in the side of the submarine, the entire. thing would just get squashed like a pancake because the pressure on all sides is so big because as you get closer to as you get further down gravity pulls things together in a stronger and stronger force that's applied on it so the weight of like a drop of water at the bottom of the marionate trench weighs way way more than a drop of water if you're just standing in new york city because the molecules are just condensed so much as the water pressures too right isn't it

Yeah, but I think that's gravity acting, pulling the water in tight. I think that's what makes water pressure increase. I don't know enough about water fluid. Every 30 feet is one atmosphere level of pressure and water definitely exerts more pressure than air. I don't know how many atmospheres. Well, I guess the atmosphere is actually pretty small compared to the whole Earth as we just talked about the oceans and everything being such a small film on top of the bowling ball that is earth. So I guess if you go down there, you're a couple

atmospheres deep and you will explode. Yeah, but there's got to be a way where we can, using today's technology, I'm just pissed off that we haven't gone down further. That's all. We kind of gave up on digging. Or did we find something that made us not want to go back? I'm just going to give my theory on the whole hollow earth thing

because there's a lot of crazy hollow earth stuff that doesn't really make that much sense. but the most rational hollow earthers who are kind of wacky think that like a lot of the UFOs we see and Elon Musk actually said all the UFOs that we have

footage of or encounters with none of them have been spotted coming from space but a lot of them have been spotted going into the ocean so there's a lot of people who think that there may have been an ancient advanced civilized that is more advanced than us because they've been surviving longer because instead of

dealing with the surface of the earth that was, you know, subject to tons of extinction events, be it meteorites during the dinosaurs, earthquakes, the younger dryness impact, which is another theory that may have been driven into the center of the earth. Some people think this is where Atlantis went, that the advanced civilization that lived on the surface of the earth had to retreat into the Earth's crust in order to save itself from exposure to extinction events so Atlantis may have

gone underwater. Literally they decided to make not an underwater city but an underground city that was only accessible from the depths of the ocean and that these UFOs might actually not be from another planet but be from our own planet. That's what I was trying to express with the mouse

in the house that if you see a mouse in your house do you think it's from another house or your own house? that's a good point you got what I'm saying like if you see a fly flying around your house do you think oh that fly definitely came from my neighbor down the block's house or does that fly just living in my own house oh no I was going to say like if I see if I see a mouse if I owned a house

that was like freestanding and had land around it yeah and there was a mouse in there I'd be like oh that mouse lives in my house exactly so if we see this UFO flying around Do we think it's from another universe miles and miles away or is it from our own planet that we know can sustain life? Billy's making a lot of sense. Okay, we now welcome on a guest of macrodosing brought to you by Billy's List.

He's a Billy's guy. And allegedly, you are a hollow earther. I don't know if that's the right nomenclature, hollow earth truther, anti-solid core guy. I don't know what to call you. But it's sweet baby Ray. Thank you for joining us. First question right off the bat.

Are you actually a Hollow Earth guy, or did you pull a fast one on Billy? Yes. I would say I am, and I think Truther would be the correct term. I think there's a lot of validity to the theory and that big government's just hiding it from us. They know the answers, and they won't tell us. Wouldn't be the first time. How did you initially get, uh, get, interested in exploring the hollow earth theory? Just seeing it on YouTube.

I've always been big into aliens and shit like that. And it just came across my YouTube one day that Diaries of Admiral Richard Bird and his story. And that's really my main thing because it's a crazy story. It's obviously not accepted by the government. They don't say that it's like factually true. But that got me into it. And then I would just drunk DM Billy late at night for years about

hollow earth because i was a big fan of the show i figured he was the guy that could uh bring this to the people when when the topic came up and we got the approval he was the first guy contacted because i knew he'd be well versed in the hollow earth lore so the the diary of is it's richard bird right correct yeah i've i've read a little bit about that i now maybe i'm being forced fed misinformation from the government. But I've also heard that the diary where he talks about flying over the pool and seeing all the greenery and turning down into that and exploring. I've also heard that that is, it's dubious to prescribe that as being his actual diary. But I'll let you cook on it. Tell the people what you've read. So I'm more of a YouTube guy. I haven't really, I don't have

like facts, documents. I know you guys are big on that. And I'll just start with saying, And the government won't sign off on any of this stuff. So it's not facts. This is all just kind of what you believe. What I've heard from the story is Operation High Jump was in 1946, I believe. And the plan was to go to Antarctica, try to find bases for military operations. And he had gone to the North Pole before that flown over it. And now he's in Antarctica flying over the South Pole.

and he sees like an opening into hollow earth, allegedly. And he sees greenery, and then he is intercepted by flying disks. And then they take him, they take control of his aircraft. They take him down into the city, which he describes as a sparkling crystal city. And they introduce him to their leader. He was like some 14 foot tall dude. And he's basically just telling him, We've been observing you guys for a while.

We're really concerned with the atomic bombs that are happening. We know what happened to Hiroshima Nagasaki, and he says that we've tried to tell your leaders before not to do these things, and we're telling you to tell your leaders. This is bad for the planet. You guys need to stop doing that. And that's pretty much the whole thing. Okay. All right.

And so you were a believer that this was a real encounter that he had? How full of shit are you? I guess that's my question. I believe it. I know it sounds dumb, but I tell all my friends, I say, shit's real. When I show them the YouTube videos, they all laugh at me. But I'm like, hey, it makes sense. The scary, the weird thing that trickles into the real world with actual factual documents

is that Admiral Bird's son was killed and found in an empty warehouse. And I'm sending you guys in the New York Times article that documents this. And not only that, James Forrestall, who was the secretary of the Navy, who was the overseer of Operation Paperclip, died mysteriously by suicide. And, you know, this was quite soon after the Navy returned on Operation Paperclip. Is it paperclip or high jump? No, high jump. But there's also the whole other thing about speaking of Operation Paperclip that they think that Operation Highjump may have been the actual end of World War II and trying to fight Nazis that had colonized the Antarctic. That's another crazy part of the whole thing, which I think is another dubious at best part of it.

there's two theories that they found Nazis in Antarctica or they found aliens in Antarctica. I'm more on the alien train. I don't know about the Nazis. I know the Nazis were trying to get to Antarctica, probably just for bases and same type thing. But yeah, I'm not really on the whole Nazis are hiding in Antarctica train. Yeah, I think it's aliens. Okay. So do you believe that the aliens that might be down there, are they from Earth?

Are they an advanced civilization that lived on Earth before our modern civilization took over? Or are they actually extraterrestrial from somewhere else? I think that they are from Earth originally. I think that like all the UFOs that we're seeing are also originally from Earth. For example, the Gimble video, which is the one the Navy released a few years ago. It's the TikTok video. It shows the UFO coming out of the ocean flying around and then it just goes back. back into the ocean.

I think that kind of ties into hollow earth. There could be openings in the ocean, things like that. But I think that the aliens, the UFOs that we're seeing, are necessarily from outer space. I think they are from our own planet. So when you say hollow earth, do you think that the entire Earth is filled with either aliens or whatever the case may be? Or is there just like underground and then you go down deep? and then the center of the earth is actually like the molten lava the solid core all that stuff i don't think it's like the whole earth is hollow i think there's kind of layers to it and

they're living in a layer below us but not that it's just like a completely empty planet you know what i'm saying yeah so is it like with with flat earth where there's like divides in the community where some people think that there's a dome some people think that there's no dome some people disagree about how the sun travels around like are some people in the hollow earth community do they think that the entire earth is just hollow i don't know i would imagine um like i said as far as hollow earth community it's just that i know of it's just my friends that i show the videos too most of them think it's bullshit a couple are like yeah make sense but i'm not really in with the whole community i'm kind of more of a lone ranger on this front as far

as I'm concerned. Independent researcher, yeah. Independent researcher. So quick question, man. Big T, yeah. Yeah. I was a quick question real quick. So are all celestial

planet stars hollow as well, or is it just Earth? I don't know. I was doing a lot of research for this, and I came across a couple things saying that Mars might be hollow. I don't know about that. I would imagine not all of them, but I don't know.

I'm more on the earth as hollow train. I got you. Okay. So following that line of logic, the reason why I ask is because, you know, I know flat earthers don't agree that this natural force is a thing. I would assume hollow earthers don't either because the physics of Earth don't make sense if it's hollow. So like gravity plays a big role in why also.

less your things are spherical because gravity tends to pull mass together. And that's how you get spheres. And so hollow earth makes no sense if there is gravity in existence. Do you think that gravity is not a thing? No, not at all. I know what you're saying. I'm not a geologist. I don't know the science behind it, but I know what you're talking about, how scientifically it doesn't work. Edmund Haley, the guy who named Haley's Comet, he was the first one to introduce the hollow earth theory. And then there was another scientist a couple hundred years later who disproved it with a gravity experiment like when you're talking about. And I don't really have the answer to how it does work. It's just one of those having the faith things for me.

Yeah. I mean, it sounds like your explanation behind things is that the earth isn't totally hollow, but there's just underground communities of people or extraterrestrials or aliens or former civilizations lizard people that live underneath what we commonly refer to as the crust of the earth I mean maybe like think about it what if the dinosaurs there was a highly evolved

group of dinosaurs that progressed with the ability to manipulate matter with like stuff that's kind of like hands became highly intelligent the you know mass extinction event with the huge meteorite comes they realize they have to retreat deeper and deeper underground in order to survive. They've then, you know, progress millions of years because there's no mass extinction

events underground because they're safe there and then progress to be a super advanced to civilization that's been around for millions of years longer than humans and are able to live in not a hollow earth, but just like tunnel type structures or pockets that naturally occurred underneath that we just haven't explored yet and you know get a energy from the center of the earth be it heat that isn't that crazy because we literally haven't haven't looked down there i mean think about it that might that might be the craziest sentence anybody's ever followed up by saying it's not that crazy it's not that crazy a three minute monologue about some wildest shit you ever heard

over the Eagles. That's not that crazy. All right I do want to know what Big T's thinking though because Big T's you're sitting there and you've definitely got some thoughts and I just need to know what they are. Well, sweet baby Ray I guess kind of answered my main question for the most part

which was listen at the beginning when you're like the government's hiding this from us they won't let us know I'm on board pal listen wouldn't be the first. I just wanted to know and I guess you kind of explained it with that story about like I guess it goes to the same like they don't want us to know there's aliens this that and the other but like why why would they hide this from us what does it accomplish because you you've you could get me on board the biggest thing it would throw off

is the church it would go against the church's beliefs and what they've been telling people for thousands of years listen pal if the government could if the government could dispel what the church is saying they'd be first on it. Good point. I'd say back to that, it's because they want us to stop doing nukes, and we're never going to stop doing that, building nukes. One more point I wanted to touch on was after the bombs in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, that was the most UFO times ever.

There's countless of American and Russian nuclear facilities. who claimed to saw, claim to see UFOs or just lights in the sky that would come over and shut down, dearm their nukes just out of nowhere, and they had no explanation for it. So, yeah, I think nukes is kind of why the government doesn't want us to know and also just a disturbing the peace thing. Okay. And also, if it was so open knowledge that there was another civilization in Antarctica, a rogue state might try to attack them, and they're just trying to protect them and live

in harmony with them. Listen, I'm not married to dense earth. Yeah. Porous earth. Porous earth. I think hollow earth. So in World War II, seeing these UFOs was a very common thing for pilots. That's definitely true.

It was so common that they named them. Do you know what the name that pilots gave to these UFOs that would buzz around their aircraft were? No. They called them foo fighters. that's where the band got the name from. Really? That's cool. Yeah, so it was a very common thing.

I'm actually, I'm becoming a pilot right now. Part of that reason was I want to see some UFOs one day. I heard that pilots see a lot of UFOs. Can't talk about it. Wait, you're becoming a pilot for, like, are you trying to fly just? Like, I'm in flight school, not commercial. Do they ask you any questions during this? This just got so much more.

competency. Yeah, fam, I don't want to be on a plane to Japan and you wouldn't take a detour because you try and see the hollow earth, brother. No, just see something flying by, you know, see it with your own eyes. Have they asked you any questions about those types of beliefs on the screening process? Not so first class medical, the highest one. Nothing about that. Just vision, hearing, things like that, clean piss. Now, if they ask you. the clean piss is important do you believe that there's an underground

race of reptilian people what would you say in that in that screening is the FAA asking me yeah I would say no I say maybe but I don't think they're actually

never know but like an Atlantis an ancient civilization of humans like retreating underground because there are examples of ancient if you some of randall carlson's work uh on go beckley teppy and like stuff ending up being older than we actually think like go beckley teppy was a it was a like a a settlement with a large underground structure that could have housed 10,000 people at a time and livestock i think it's if

you see the ancient apocalypse netflix i used to be much more skeptical of that but like for the for the purpose of this show like that gives good merit to their you know being older civilizations than we thought being able to have underground settlements so those underground settlements progress faster because you know they're not affected by stuff that the surface throws at them ends up getting more and more advanced building more and more underground without any resistance hey hollow earth that's not that crazy not that crazy Right. See? It's not that crazy. So why do you think that we haven't gone back to Antarctica to look for these cracks in the earth yet?

That's a good question. I would think that we are currently in communications with these beings down there. I know like exploration is pretty restricted. You have to be approved by the government to do certain things in Antarctica, which is funny because you guys have the guy who walked across Antarctica. And he said he didn't see anything. So that might put a hole in that theory. But I think that we are talking to him right now. And they're just keeping it on the low. That guy walked across Antarctica may have, you know, just been hitting the rim. Just giving the hole in the bottom or a little rim around.

Yeah. Just going around. The question, more of a science question again. Explain to me the physics of. why the people down there would be so tall he said 14 feet yeah i don't know the answer to that one but that's what he said um i don't know the physics behind that but just having the faith choosing to believe and they have crystal cities that were glowing things like that you think so is your is your belief in choosing to believe does it come from like a uh like where i'm trying

to figure out the origins of it because i think you may believe it but i don't think you're too too serious about it or am I wrong about that that's pretty accurate I believe it I'm not like dying going out pick it into everyone hollow earth is real not like that right but it's like something it's it entertains you so like it so does it it just come from like an entertainment standpoint and you're like you like tickling that part of your brain where it's like hey you know it could be is that more yeah I like to tie it in with the whole alien idea because I'm pretty big into the alien idea, and I think that that makes a lot of sense, because obviously, like, we're not seeing it on satellites, UFOs coming in from outer space, or at least they're not showing it

to us. And I think that them going into the ocean and, like, the gimbal video tying into that provides a lot of, like, support to the hollow earth theory. I personally do think that we should try to dig we should we should try to see what's under the crust we haven't we gave up on that back in the 70s and we haven't really tried again I'd like to volunteer you to be on that exploratory community you and bill

you guys can go make a day of it is this how Malaysian the Malaysian flight went down commercial pilot searching for the hollow earth ah man they were over the Pacific we gotta go to the polls They took a left turn. Yeah, so it is, he was going south. Yeah, it is fascinating to me to think about Antarctica because there's millions and millions and millions of years worth of ice that's contained at the polls.

And so you could actually like go back in time if you dug deep enough at the center of Antarctica and see what all that ice is like at the bottom. It should give you an idea of what Earth was like before humans even existed. That would be pretty cool to do. I think we should do that. Yeah, along those lines, there's something called the Perry Reese map. It was drawn in 1513, which is before the first known exploration to Antarctica, and it shows the outline of Antarctica what it would look like underneath the ice. And no one really knows how those were found, just some ancient civilization stuff.

maybe it was the hollow earth people back in their day transferring the knowledge down but yeah just one of those cool things to think about isn't this a key plot point an alien versus predator they live underneath the south pole yes yes yeah okay a lot of dots being connected also king kong versus godzilla new canon has hollow earth that movie does a great job of showing hollow earth yeah love that yeah in black panther too as well Well, I forget the dude's name, the Mexican superhero dude, the anti-hero. I didn't see the second one. So his whole, his whole people live under the water and it's a beautiful civilization.

See, maybe it's Marvel spoon feeding it to us so that when the news breaks, we're not all shocked, you know. Is that, do you take that stance too? I know a lot of flat earthers do that shit. They'll say like the government or they. or they put in hints all through our culture that this is actually the truth. Do you guys think that too? To a degree, but at the same time, like Hollywood characterizes aliens as just gray people that look like us, which I guess maybe through that, I believe that aliens are like humanoid forms.

But yeah, I do think that spoon feeding is a real thing. I think we should use the term being instead of alien because I don't think these are from the outs if the alien always implies space or unknown uh this is boring yeah but i think this is definitely native to earth these beings if they are like if they do exist in whatever's flying these craft because the thing is they showed all of congress you know the navy doesn't know what these things are and we don't know where they're from and i think there's a good chance that these beings are native to earth and they may be inhabiting places where humans couldn't get them and especially environmental disasters couldn't get to them,

be it deep under the crust of the South Pole. I mean, that ice sheet is armor as good as any. So. Do you think the 14-foot aliens could shut down Yokic? Yeah, they could. Bakers need them. That's crazy. Bakers need them.

I can't play it out of his mind right now. I imagine they actually put into basketball. What about lasers? Can we use lasers to cut through the bottom of Antarctica and figure out what the hell is going on down there? Yeah, I don't see why not. I mean, it seems like they would work for that. I don't really know where the laser technology is out right now. I agree.

I think we should look into it. All right. Anybody got any more questions for Sweet Baby Rush? Appreciate you coming on. What is sweet baby Ray? It's a barbecue sauce. It's a bad barbecue sauce. Oh, the favorite sauce of accused lizard person, Mark Zuckerberg.

Is it? Yeah. Interesting. Have you ever met Mark Zuckerberg? No, I haven't. I haven't. A lot of dots being connected, though, right now. Maybe one day, yeah, maybe you send me here.

I don't even know. That's the brokest boy shit ever, is that Mark Zuckerberg is like the richest person on earth almost. And he eats the $2.99. barbecue sauce that you get at Walmart that was that sauce is good though the sauce is the boss man that's the best sauce no it's a bad barbecue sauce it's a bad cue hot take I take if you need barbecue sauce the barbecue's trash there's some merit to that that's spoken like a true Texan right there oh I hate barbecue sauce like when a brisket or something is cooked this perfection it just melts you don't need sauce bro what about all other stuff

You need sauce when the meat is dry. Doing a good pulled pork does need sauce, though. Not of his juicy and tender. I agree with Billy on that one. You want someone to loom it up real good. Mad Dog, do you have any questions for Sweet Baby, Ray? What do people think when you tell them this? They just look at me crazy.

Usually it's after a night out with the boys. and then especially if there's girls there, they think it's real crazy. Yeah, usually just show the boys. Hell yeah. You usually keep that one in the YouTube deaths. We don't bring that out for them quite yet. What do you mention to women first this

or that you're in flight school? I give you one guess. How many dates until you tell them about the letter? Yeah, what's the protocol there? Like fifth date? meeting the parents I haven't told a girl yet granted longest relationship was like a year

but I guess longer than that have you brought it up to anybody and immediately been like I should I should have just held on to that one for a little bit longer whether that's a boss co-worker yeah co-workers and kind of boss my instructor

yeah should have held on in that one what's it what's your what's your what's your icebreaker when you start to tell people what's you think hey have you heard about that what's how do you break that so it's more just like an alien talk and a UFO talk at first let me say hey you know but although they might be from here actually not from space and then we get into hollow earth and then admiral richard bird and then uh they're either with it or they're not i hope you find someone someday that entertains those thoughts as much as you do

your romantic partner. Yeah, no, I hope you find a fellow hollow author to go to the center of the earth with. I want to say, I want to say something in defense of sweet baby, Ray. My understanding of this theory was just, I didn't know about the alien stuff and all that. I find it only mildly more, if you believe in aliens and that they're coming from another planet, I find it only mildly more ridiculous that they would come from the center of the earth. I think No problem

The hollow earth Like moniker I think is to discredit The very idea that there could be other beings living on this planet Where we can't where we haven't looked yet Which I think is very plausible and not that crazy The term hollow earth like discredits that Yeah I think it's like

It's like oh you think the whole earth's hollow that's stupid But I do think it could use a rebrand Yeah yeah a lot of people like co-tag it with flat earthers which fuck that that stupid the earth's round but hollow or totally different there's definitely some fed I want to meet I want to

be to flat earther I want to meet a flat earther pilot see how that works out there yeah there might yeah maybe the next flight that you're on it might you should ask the pilot a couple leading questions before you sit down but yeah I think it does need a rebrand I think big T is Right, because it does imply that you think that if you punctured the Earth, like a big enough drill, it would just pop like a balloon.

You guys have any suggestions for the rebrand? I've been thinking. Because I need a re-re-because it's something I think is real, so I need a better-leveled, leveled Earth. There's levels. Hollow Earth sounds so like, you know what I'm saying? Like level, level Earth. Leveled Earth, staggered Earth.

Earth featuring Alien Center Taylor's version. cohabitators cohabitators the roommate theory that I like that that we're not alone like with someone else leveled earth

yeah levels I like that leveled earth levels to this shit yep all right sweet baby Ray thank you for joining us sweet thanks man good to meet you sweet

I love you guys all right sweet baby Ray you get we baby Ray he had a pretty rational take yeah i guess about as rational as it could be well it's like i'm not a i'm not a kook i just think that aliens live under antarctica i'm not crazy it was it was if the plausibility of the earth uh being a balloon is zero

it is more plausible than that i think that could i think that idea writes off the idea that like i mean there's proof that there's you like stuff flying around that we don't know what it is. Whatever's making those things is definitely some sort of beings because they move whether they're biological beings in the UFO themselves. So where the hell are those things coming from? They have to come from somewhere. I don't think them living on the same planet as us is that crazy. All right. It's not that good. It might not be. It might not be. Yeah. You might not be insane, Billy. No, it's not that crazy at all. All right. You guys

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really good. Keep that in. Yeah, they're really, really good. I'm Ross from Middle of Nowhere, Georgia, and I've been a fan since the beginning of the show. And especially, Arien, I've been a fan of years forever,

and you kind of changed my perspective on, like, everything in life, and I truly think that you're just brilliant. But my question that I have is, what is your guys' favorite thing to argue about? And there's like a, the, you have fun debating something, but I mean more of an argument

where you feel that personal anger in you to get your point across and, you know, cut anyone off and be completely uncivil because someone has a opinion that you find bad and you completely discreet. Uh, thank you. Keep making the pod. Okay. What's your favorite thing to argue about? That's kind of how I argue anyway. Like, it's not, like, I get a lot of, like, like, DMs from people, like, on the show, like, when I got to, when I contend the point, like, either Big T or Billy or something like that.

Like, I just am a passionate humor. Like, this is how, like, if he was to, like, come to, like, one of my family functions, right? When we get to, like, congregate with each other, this is how we talk. Like, so it's just, like, very, like, in your face. And, like, I would never do that to a stranger, right? I would argue cordially. But like if I argue with you like that means I fuck with you, you know what I'm saying? I think that a lot of that time that passion gets taken as like I'm coming out my, you know what I'm saying?

Like, or I'm being disrespectful or I'm just loud or I've lost my. Like, nah, that's just how I talk like when I fuck with my people. And so it's like I'll do that shit with the car game, like the family or whatever, like top five. I say to answer his question, top five rappers is probably a heated debate like that in my circles a lie. You'd be like, yo, that dick you try with you. and you just kind of like get into it with that. So I would probably like say like top five rappers. But that's just how we kind of, for my experience with, you know, my people, like,

that's just how we kind of, that's how we bang. Mine's easy. College football. I love arguing about college football. Like there are other arguments I get in that like, I'm like, why, why am I having this right now? But every time I argue with somebody about college football, I enjoy it. And I want to continue arguing about it.

Yeah. It's a fun argument too. Because compared to other sports, even other college sports, there's so many different ways that you can go in college football. And the passion that everybody has for their own fan base and for their own team, people take it personally. You get crazy. Like that is, they are actually fanatics when it comes to college football.

I don't think that people care as deeply. If you took, like, the most diehard university Tennessee fan, and then you took the most diehard, I don't know, Yankees fan and the most diehard Cowboys fan and you compared all those together the person who's the diehard University of Tennessee fan cares more about that program than the other do

about their own team. For sure. All right, Big Tia, I want to answer you this question. Who is the greatest college team of all time? Team, individual, like one season. It's either was it O2 or 3 Miami

when they had all those guys or, I mean, honestly, like 2019 LSU just beat the piss out of everyone like nobody was close but that LSU team I think would beat the older teams just because of how football's evolved yeah I mean the offense was just insane

probably those two maybe the good answers um yeah I think those would be my top two there was that one USC team too that came right after Miami that was pretty good 2005 yeah

yeah they were good I mean with the benefit of hindsight who knows what we're going to look back on like 10 years but these Georgia teams have been pretty fucking good yeah yeah yeah but yeah they don't have like the sexy appeal on offense like the other teams do like

Stets it was Stets and he's like he's like okay you know I mean he's not like but then again even like the old five teams well I thought I don't know Matt Lighter won the Hizman Vince Young that Texas team too 2000 Was that 05 also or 06

I want to say that's 06 Because they played USC in the Rose Bowl Those teams wouldn't be able to compete Because Vince like the whole Running quarterback Isn't his novel now And I don't think they would be as effective Their offense

I don't think that's the case at all So like do you think they do well against the Georgia team Like Any in my experience, any running quarterback that's effective opens up your run game in an entirely different way. Vince Young is a big part of the reason why Chris Johnson ran for 2,000 yards. And if your run game is open and you're a threat and you can throw the ball, then your play action game opens up. It makes your defense account for way more than it has to. So would it be effective?

who's to say but it would be more effective than the teams they faced this see how these conversations are fun yeah and we're in and we're in the perfect may and june is the perfect time for it every year because there's just nothing going on in college football it's about to get born after basketball yeah and that's then you start going to baseball games that's true this is my new thing yeah i'll do that i'll do that i'm just but yeah in the college football calendar They're like, there's nothing going on right now. So any conversation about college football is just arguing about dumb shit, and it rocks. But, like, I don't think Vince Young would, I think teams nowadays would match up better against Vince Young's Texas team.

But there's not, there's no what? Yeah, I think because. I don't think you remember Vince, yeah. How old were you would do you? I was seven, but I watched his highlights. I don't think Cam Newton was a much better runner than Vince Young. They were a little bit different, though, as quarterbacks. different. I wouldn't say

that's actually a pretty good no I would say Vince Young was a better runner, no Vince Young was a more shifty he had a he was faster yeah definitely faster and he was more of a threat I would say through the air

I would argue one of my favorite things to argue about is that the 2002 U.S. men's national team soccer team should have made the World Cup finals and we got robbed out of it that's the best team

that the U.S. might ever have in soccer and we got fucked by some dirty referees in the game against Germany because if we had beaten Germany and there were some handballs that could have been goals that were not called a lot of shit went down in that game. We should have beaten

Germany in the quarterfinals then we would have played South Korea in the semifinals. We had already beaten them earlier in the tournament, we could have beaten South Korea again, and then we would have been in the World Cup final against Brazil, who probably would have beaten us. No, but we're... I like to argue about how American soccer is stupid.

No, but we're about to be so nasty. Yeah. Baligan. We are. About to be... For those who don't follow soccer very closely, just wait, three more years, we're about to be disgusting. They said that three more years last... No, no, no, no. We just got... No, no, no, we just got... No, it didn't believe.

Yes, everyone was... team will be good and they were. They were solid. Like we tied England. I love how the question of what do you like to argue about turned into an argument. Yeah. Yeah. No, but like, yeah, but you're wrong. Remember, Bill, you're wrong. I am right. I am right. I remember the New York post article when we tied England last World Cup like before this one, the one before. That also didn't happen. Yes, the best tie since Bunker Hill, the original tie between that was in English and pool play. That was like 13 years ago. Yeah. They were saying. that wait till the next four years and we're going to have a great team because we just tied

England. They've been saying all these U.S. soccer people is like the trust the process, Ponzi scheme. It's never going to get good because we will never accelerate past the level that other like Europe's going to progress because we can't catch up to them. We were better than them in 2002 though. That's the thing. We're better than Germany who finished second place. And we should have made the finals. And Billy, nobody was saying about this World Cup that we expected the U.S. team to be dominant or advanced past where we got to because we were a very young team. The goal in this World Cup was like take these guys who are all 20 years old, 21 years old, and just wait. I'm going to make the next World Cup afterwards. I'm going to make

Billy watch Balligan. Is it the Nations League or Gold Cup that's coming up? Whichever one it is, I'm going to make him watch that guy put a hat trick on Mexico. We're not going to beat that Swedish dude. Hollis, like there's crazy players. Holland. He should have three gold. in this game right now and somehow Cortois stopped all of them. He's like a superhuman. He actually looks like he could be from the hollow earth. Man City just scored again. As I said that, by the way, three, no.

We're going to the Champions League final. Billy, respectfully, you don't know shit about U.S. I don't because they keep sucking. I can't invest in them because everyone says, oh, this time. And they're like, no. Well, next World Cup, that's the time that if we don't, if we, if we don't win, I'm going to say two knockout stage. games, it will be a

disappointment. Okay, so clip this. We have to we have to get to, we have to get to the semifinals. If we get to the semifinals, I think our team will be good enough to get us to the semi. And it also does depend on what group and what the matchups are on the second round. But we should have the talent

to be one of the top four teams in a World Cup that we're hosting. Okay. That's the year. All takes exposed. 2002 though, we should have made to the World Cup finals. We got fucked. So I like arguing that. I also like arguing about health care system in America.

Like we should have health care should be free. And it's been proven to work overseas in like every other country. And for whatever reason, people just like to pretend that it doesn't suck here, but it does suck here. Also, Andrew Jones should be in the Hall of Fame. I could, I could do a dissertation on that. I like to argue, like fun argue football and like animal fights. how big of an animal you can fight with your bare hands

those are always fun pick two to fight with you the rest are coming to kill you those are fun yeah I like those yeah for sure because then you you envision the battle that would take place gorilla versus brown bear

this is a great icebreaker for your incels that follow you to talk to a girl about because I always do this because it's fascinating to see everybody's logic so I'll ask people And I'd be like, would you rather fight 50

rat-sized lions or one lion-sized rat? Ew. And see what the answer is. It's a fun thing to just break the eyes. 50. A lion-sized rat is the most terrifying thing I've ever heard of it. I just like shriveled up hearing that.

Yeah, because. Yeah, but then think about 50 little lions. Just kick them. Yeah, just step on them. That's good, but when there's 50 of them, 50, you can't step on all 50. But the thing is, The lion's mouth compared at a rat size, it's pretty small. So when it bites you, it be like a cat.

Less than a cat. Yeah, way less. I don't know enough about lion size or rat size lions. This was a good, this was a good voicemail question. Yeah. Prove the point. Yeah. Lines also are like, never mind, I'm not going to say it.

They're a little soft. Lionesses. Then we're talking some cats. All right, next voice mail. You may just call it lion's soft. Yeah, male lines are soft. Lionesses, do all the hunting. Girl boss.

They're tough, yeah. Girl boss. Hey, what's that microdosing? It's Julie from New Jersey. So if you were in a freaky Friday situation with a person you know best, to be a friend, significant other, family member, what, how long? Do you think you go before someone noticed you switch bodies? And that's when I thought about it.

And we think maybe a weekend, because honestly, when we get to work, I think my cover would be blown. So let me know what you think. Stay handsome and stay beautiful. What is a Freaky Friday? Like the movie? Where you take over the other person's body. They take over your body.

So, Aaron, if it was you and Billy, you would be in Billy's body walking around, and Billy would be in your body walking around. And how long would it take for people to realize, whoa, there's something weird about Aryan or whoa, there's something weird about Billy. I think I could I could play Billy pretty well. I got the same voice and shit at him?

Yeah. Oh, I got to sit down. Oh, easy. I could live the rest of your life, though. I think if we were, I think we could get away with doing a podcast by imitating each other. Like, we could get through a podcast,

but I don't think day to day. Yo, we should do that. We should just swap. personalities we should AI generate each other like visually and then like voiceover then just you know how they like redid the Drake track yeah that's the technology but the guy did it he had Drake's voice we could definitely do that where we switch voices I think the visual would be hard but I think there's a way we could do like a voice changer to change your voice to mine and mine to yours and then we could actually do that I don't think I don't think is that I mean it would be I

I bet in this scenario, if Billy became air-in, you would just work out. You would just, like, take the new body for a spin. I'd appreciate it because I've been slipping, honestly. Do your thing. Do your fucking thing. I just run. You just run a hundred-yard dash. You just be like, oh, my God.

Just fucking, just get it, get it exactly where you want it. Just don't. Just like, hey, like, it's like giving the car keys back. Like, hey, you can squat 500 pounds now, like, run a 4-3. oh you know yeah i don't think i could do you actually because you have a dog and then and then the moment i go home to your dog i'm like yo get the fuck away from me yeah i was i was just thinking like the person i spend the most time around at least probably like in terms of professional life for sure big cat if i if i took over big cat's body i they would find me out instantly

because I would be at home. I'd wake up and I would not know what the fuck to do with three children. I would screw that up so quickly. Oh yeah, Billy,

if you switch by there and you'd have to take care of kids. Oh, yeah. I take care of a lot of animals. I mean, children aren't that different. Same thing. Yeah, BFT, you've had a dog. Don't worry about it.

Yeah, I've had a dog. I can look after a few cats. Yeah, that's. That's a good one. They just make sure they don't kill them. Feed them. Like, make sure they get exercise. Like, can't be that hard, right?

Let them out. Put the leash back where it goes. Yeah. Big T, what about you? I think I'd do poorly in both in someone assuming me and vice versa, because I'm a pretty unique person. So I feel like anyone that took over my body, it would be apparent relatively quickly that they were not me.

Especially if it was a smaller person that took over your body. They'd have to like learn how to walk around on those big ass feet. Yeah. I had to get fitted for a tux yesterday and the woman goes, what size shoe do you wear? And I said 17. She goes, not going to be able to try those on here.

I was like, yeah, I figured I got it. They'll be fine. It's also weird how everybody definitely, No one's the same person to everybody. And I think that's what a lot of people don't understand about. Like, I act much differently with different groups of people just because, you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Yeah. So, you're a chameleon. Yeah. All right. Good sewed, guys. Sweet. Good sode.

I'm glad we got to the bottom of hollow earth. Or not the bottom. Or to the center. It's a porous earth. All right. Leveled earth. It's like hummus or pumice. All right.

Well, we will see you guys next week. I'm going to be back in the studio next week. So I'll be excited to it. I will be there. When are you getting into town? I get in on a Sunday night. That's right. It's a dozen week.

We got the dozen coming up next week in the office. Good luck, guys. I'm in there. Fuck you. You ain't with us. That's facts. I'm ruined for you guys. I don't care.

I'm not rooting for you. Aaron, if you want to get some runs in, we're playing, I usually play pickup every day if you want to come to the courts. Yeah. I'm actually my dude. I know I've said I've done it in the past, but I have, I'm going to be out there for like a week,

and I don't want to go downhill with the diet and everything. So I might, I might take you. It's casual. It's casual. It's nothing crazy. I'm not going to be banging. I'm just going to be shooting.

Yeah. All right. Well, we'll see you guys next Tuesday for nanodosing. It's been macro dosing. Love you guys. Stay handsome. Stay gorgeous.