Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Ghosts

Episode Date: October 12, 2021

On today's episode, the Macrodosing team talks about Ghosts and the haunted spirits that surround them. Do they thing they're real? What would everyone do if they were a ghost? Also, on this weeks Tennessee Minute, Tyler Baron joins the show yet again, but this time with a special guest ahead of their big matchup with Ole Miss. From Ghosts to Danny DeVito, this podcast brings it all (per usual). All of this and more on today's show.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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I'm going to say you got a shit pump South Carolina. You guys are, is Tennessee the hottest team in college football right now? Shoot, I don't think I'm the one that should be saying that, but we're going to keep doing our thing, though, for sure. Aaron, you're going to say something? No, I was making sure my mic was working, my bet. Okay, got you. So we got Big T with us.

Big T is a fan of the volunteers. volunteers and he was saying that this weekend's game is I'll let you say it the most important game in the history of the state of Tennessee I said it's probably the biggest game we've had there since 16 we played Florida at home that was that was an awesome game but since then yeah this is probably the biggest one we've had there it's going to be I think I just saw it sold out this morning um so it's going to be lane kiffin coming back it's going to be super fun are we ready to say get your popcorn ready for this weekend for lane kiffin oh yeah for sure I'll say that I would I would have said that.

Shoot, for every game, we don't have to be real. Love it. So how do you feel about this relationship that we've got going on right now, Tyler? I know that we had some negotiations right off the bat. Did we sit, did you get the merchandise that we sent? Yeah, I did. It just came in the mail yesterday, actually. It was, the shirts came in.

Yeah, I was wearing the things around the house yesterday. Okay, awesome, awesome. I just wanted to see, like, right now. That's cap. That's cap. Hey, I ain't even cap on God. I do whatever John's on. Just see what it felt like turned shit.

Uh-huh. It was smooth. Says some picks, no. That was, yeah, our folks ain't respond, but. Can't. Avery, did you not respond? He didn't send me a picture, but I was trying to, uh... No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Hold on. You responded late when I asked you to come on last week, and then we figured it out. But we didn't get a picture of you in the merchandise, which is a little bit unfortunate. We will. Okay. I'm coming to Knoxville this weekend.

I'll see you. Yes, indeed. You go to the game? Yeah, we're going for the college football show this weekend. So we're doing our Barstool College Football Show there on Saturday. So hopefully I'll get to see Tyler at some point. So Lane Kiffin coming. downtown uh big t was saying that this is the weekend that you get unleashed are you about to get

unleashed yeah of course we're about we're gonna do our thing for show every week but uh i really want to show y'all i got the man man of the week uh my dog hendon hook here quarterback qb one there we go what's up yeah how's it going in it's going good man i'm enjoying it uh it's day and day out working hard now hendon i i have a question that i want you to answer because Arian here has been quite critical of Josh Heppel's style of offense, and we just keep going out there and shit pumping people and putting 50 points on the board. So I just want you to explain to Arian why this offense is a good idea and why it's going to work. Yeah, really just the upbeat tempo.

It's hard for defense to grasp that. We just have weapons everywhere. So when you have weapons and then that upbeat tempo, it's hard to contain that. Arean, do you have a rebuttal? Aryan's been a doubter. I think let's put our cards on the table here a little bit. We're all giant Tennessee fans on this podcast. Arian is a Tennessee alum.

I think he respects you guys. He likes the players there. But he has not been a believer in all the things that Big T has been telling him about the trajectory of the program. So what do you think about this? Aaron, you're hearing it straight from the horse's mouth. Yeah. I hope all y'all eat. That's, that's, that's, that's, that's my preference.

I hope all y'all eat and y'all have the greatest college and professional careers. I just don't see that offense having longevity, not because of the players. I just think the system, like, um, that uptempo stuff, uh, defenses usually catch on. And, um, from my experience, like, I could be, I could be wrong. Uh, and I hope I'm wrong. I hope, I hope, I hear you, fam. Oh, you can ask Tyler, like, our defense here, we, we, it was going against them every day in the spring.

Like, it's hard to just catch that tempo, especially after one possession, you out there run as hard as you can and the ball going from every side of the field. You come out there on that second possession, we're doing the same thing, and we're moving it effortlessly. Yeah, no, but see,

I think the problem comes when you deal with, like, real defense because, say when y'all play, if I play Alabama, like when you deal with, like, NFL caliber talent defenses where you can't trick them. And it's not, it's not like the bells and whistles and you have to actually play ball. That kind of stuff, in my experience, usually is.

It's why you don't see the option in the NFL is because it doesn't work too often. It's not, it's, the players catch on. It's not something that you can take advantage of somebody who's, like, kind of heady. What would you like? Do you want them to, like, revolt against the coach? What's your head to do? No, no, no, no, no. I preface, you fucking, my preface was, I hope all y'all eat.

Hey, like, I hope y'all, I hope y'all do it. I'm just being honest about my critiques about this system. From my experience, it just doesn't. Yeah, for sure. Aaron wants you to hand it to the running back. That's, that's really where the stemmed from him. He's a running back. He wants you to pass it to the running back.

Remember, he had above average hands when he played. So he wants, you know what? Use the guys out of the back field. You're going to have to catch my fate when I see people. No, I get it. Arian wants old school football. Ariane's like this newfangled stuff isn't going to work. Teams like the Buffalo Bills with a running quarterback doesn't work in the NFL.

And we saw that last night, right, Aaron? Running quarterback's all. And also, we should note that Arian has watched a lot of Tennessee football this year. How much volunteer football again? Have you watched, Aaron? My mom's headed on in the background one. I have not watched one game. So this is our way of saying keep doing what you're doing, guys.

If it's working, absolutely. 100%. 100%. Like I said, I want you out to win. Why I hope all you get the million-dollar contracts, your heart desires, man. I want all my brothers do win, man, that's for sure. And Hendon, do you have any name-image-likeness,

sponsorships through any podcasts, hypothetically? No, I don't have any, but I love to be on with y'all, though. Yeah, see, that's the thing. So Tyler hit me up this week. It was like, would you guys want Hendon as a, as a reference? Let me tell you, I don't know if he'll tell you. It seems like a pretty humble guy to meet fifth in the FBS right now in Passer Efficiency.

Wow. I actually knew that. Yeah. Yeah. But, okay, Henan, it's interesting. So what do you think you could bring to the table here for us in the macro dosing community? Time about you know, you know, I like about Tyler, though. Tyler, get a little bag and he's bringing the homies in.

I love that. I try to feed a fan of my dog for show. And say, fan, they're sweet over here, though. we're going to have the big idiots they're just handing out money the shirt I don't know the mayor of the city being on the show we're gonna we're gonna have all the volunteers on is our spot and we're just gonna have the whole entire team there's no reason you start quarterback right yeah there's no reason you should be cleaning up right now what

is you what are you doing what you mean a business on a strip should be hollering at you every like every car car dealer shit like this what I'm saying. All right, I got some, I got some deals working, but honestly, like, I don't, I don't want to get my mind off. Fuck that, nigga. Listen, bro. This is, this is not ESPN, though. You don't got to give me this bullshit that's answer. This is real life. Like, it's me. Like, okay. Well, nigga, holl at me and I, and I'll help you out with, like, sorting out how to do this shit. Like, if you don't want to hire management, because this is the problem, and this is why I have an issue with the NCA. They let y'all finally use the name

image and likeness, right? But they don't give y'all any kind of tools to understand how to work the business and business aspect of it, right? And hold on, do, does the University of Tennessee extend that to you? I'd be like, listen, this is how to handle this or give y'all any kind of...

Yeah. Yeah, they have the whole little organization to really, like, walk us through it, for real. Take advantage of that. And if that doesn't, if it doesn't feel like it's, it's palatable, like you can take it in, then highlight somebody, highlight the OG,

that myself any any alum like okay I'm this is overwhelming and don't be too cool don't be too cool but like there's no reason why you shouldn't be cleaning up right now you start in quarterback and he said you did leading the fbS and fifth and pass or efficiency that in the country i still don't what that step mean but does we want an efficient quarterback i feel like as a podcast we want someone who's just out there slinging it no no no no no no yeah no i want somebody that like takes forever to get into rhythm during it in the game and then like fucks around those a couple interceptions in the first half maybe like has his helmet fly off and because he forgot to buckle his chin strap and then the second half he comes out there i want james

i want yeah as much like could you model your game a little bit more after james winston we're going young james old james young james was that dude oh good how how young james are we talking about here i think like yeah i i think um you know james when he's going like 30 30 30 touchdowns 30 interceptions that's my personal favorite james that's a bad bad he's a bad rap james's the ball dog yes he's a lot of weird shit but like it ain't a ball dog like that whole eat the w shit was probably the funniest shit i've ever seen in my life though i don't know what i would have done if i was in that hurdle all right well um i'm i'm interested in being in the hooker business so uh you came to the right podcast

I think we can talk about that. What? Did it something I said? What? We're interested in being in the hooker business, aren't we? I would like to get involved in a financial relationship with a hooker. Can we make that happen? Yeah, man, we can make that happen.

Okay. All right. Cool. I guess this makes Tyler your pimp. So, uh, this little bro. His little bro, he ain't doing it in a little bro. He ain't doing all that. Man, the 2021 Tennessee season was gone so well.

What happened? Well, on the podcast. Stracie begged me to this conversation. No, seriously, I'm interested in this. I think I appreciate what Tyler's doing, like Aryan said, like you find out that there's somebody that's got a couple dollar bills in their pocket. He's like, hey, I know I've got some friends on the team that could use a little walking around money. So you're a good friend and a good teammate.

I like that. I think we pick a good person to contact at the University of Tennessee, someone who's looking out for his teammates a little bit. So I'd be happy to enter another negotiation phase. We've got Billy Football, who I'm going to put in charge the negotiating process this time. He's kind of a shark. So I don't know if you've read The Art of War. We're reading The Art of War right now on the show.

I would recommend doing that if you want to get into a negotiation off with Billy. Look, we got to see what type of value you can bring to the program. And then once we evaluate the income streams that we could get from your likeness, then we'll see how much you're worth the podcast. It's all about utility, guys. We're just going to give you some money. That's just big stuff. Yeah, that's got.

Yeah, no cat. All right, well, good luck this weekend. We're rooting for you. I think we are officially a University of Tennessee podcast at this point. Yeah. I hope you guys beat the shit out of them. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Good luck.

Hey, and what I said, listen, bro, all that, I don't want to keep my mind for a listen, bro. You had a strike. why the iron hot. That's business. That's good business. And what these folks are running around, I tell you, you go to stay focus and we can multitask, bro.

They don't, they don't like to treat you as young businesses and young business owners, but you are now. And that's what you got to start thinking about yourself at, a young business owner. And so get your affairs in order.

If you don't have anybody, reach out. If you don't understand the shit, reach out. We didn't go to school. I didn't go to school for money or finances. That's why I hired somebody, right?

And it's okay to reach out. And I mean that shit, man, because these universities, I believe, don't have our best interest at heart. They're all about getting money. And when you start getting money, they don't teach you how to handle it. So reach out, though.

But not the University of Tennessee here. You said what? I said, I'm going to shoot in your stuff. Yeah, I got a gram card. All right. Cool, guys. Well, it was good to meet you, Hennon. Tyler, good to see you again, as always.

You're going to be unleashed this weekend. So we're looking forward to that. Get a couple sacks. do the dance or the celebration the bow right is that what we figured out yeah yeah hit the bow and maybe that'll be like a little commission off the top who knows i'm negotiating against myself again right now i'm just giving way more money uh but yeah we'll be in touch hinden uh and we'll try to work something out send you some stuff and a little bit of walking around money sounds good all right see you guys good luck please young brother that's a solid tennessee minute right there

i had if if we're just counting this is the tennessee minute i had some other numbers i wanted to run by arian real quick um scoring offense seventh in the country 41 and a half points per game i don't give a shit about rushing rushing offense rushing offense seven in the country 253 yards a game that does that that that peak your fancy little bit oh oh what's the record um i don't know sorry that we're i we should have mentioned this off the top the braves are playing game three of the n ls right now as we're recording so there's a lot of shit happening 28 points in consecutive first quarters for the first time in modern program history. 45 points in consecutive SEC games for the first time since 2016.

That was Dobbs, Alvin Camaro, all those guys. And doing all that with time of possession just at 26 minutes per game, which is 125th in the country. That's how fast they go. So you guys are just the southern Oregon now. Yeah. I mean, it's us in Ole Miss. Like I think Ebo said, the total for this week is 79 and a half,

which is tied for the highest in SEC history. Arian is absolutely blown away by these stats. I think you've won them over, Big T. I just want it. I just want the people can listen to the numbers and draw their own conclusions. Aaron, you can't see him unless you're watching on YouTube, but he just left the room and he came back putting on his orange checkered overalls that he keeps. And he's got a pennant in his hand and says, go university.

Oh, man, I got a homeboy I used to play with who went to that last Tennessee. game and he was wearing orange Tennessee overalls and he was flaming his ass in the group chat but listen bro listen I'm not saying they're not going to score points like every team scores points and I'm not saying they're not doing a good job they're doing a good job my hope they do I hope they win the national championship bro I hope I hope it but the issue is I don't see that offense having longevity it just doesn't it never correlates well every all those small fast doing a thousand, it just doesn't correlate very well in an NFL or in, when you run up against

like a real defense. Like have they played anybody who's in the top like 10 or like a South Carolina's defense isn't horrible. I mean, they're not amazing. But like they have a guy who I think is supposed to be a first round pick on their defensive line. That ain't that ain't a good way. Why are you talking about like a top defense? So we're going to play Georgia who is the best defense, maybe that I've ever seen in college football. They're legitimately terrifying. What? I guess I guess. This year's, Georgia. I'm going to say, you haven't seen anything.

This year's Georgia defense is truly. The best, Georgia, this is the best defense you ever seen. They actually might be really good. They held Clemson to how many points? Three. Yeah. And they, pretty good. Arkansas and Vandy didn't score. Or no, Arkansas score. Who was the other team that they held? Or did Arkansas? No, Arkansas

didn't. And then Auburn this week scored like, I think, 17 points, 10, something like that. I mean, we can't even get through the Tennessee minute without Big T talking about his. Bulldogs. This is a shame. Fuck out of here. No, but so I guess, I mean, we will see eventually, but I really would have to have that loss against pit back, huh?

If Hendon starts that game, we win that game by 10 points. That was, yeah, that sucks. But we're playing good ball now. Ole Miss coming, Lane Kiffin coming back to town. I'm fired the fuck up. What is the deal? Okay, so I can't, I left right before Lane Kiffin came. Why does Tennessee hate Lane Kevin so much? What did he do? I really don't even know. Well, so he went there.

We were like, okay. Like, I think he went eight and five his first year and then left. Well, so it was the way he left. He left after one year and did it in the middle of the night. He called a press conference at like three in the morning and just met some reporters in like a room in the athletic facility and was like, hey, I'm going to USC and just left in the middle of the night. And a lot of that left a bad taste and a lot of people's mouth. I think most people had forgiven him because this, this past time when we hired Heipel, there was a lot of people who wanted to hire Lane Kiffin.

I think they forgave him because the time facker, obviously, like enough time has passed. And he's a good coach. And then two, he's gotten better as a head coach. And three, he's kind of fucked over some other fan bases and the time spent. So it's like, yeah, we don't like that he fucked us over. But on the other hand, he fucked Nick Sabin over more recently. I think he would have seriously considered and maybe even take. making the job if it wasn't for the fact that he would have been doing to Ole Miss

exactly what he did to Tennessee. And I don't think he wanted to do that again. But I think if we were really bad right now, like two and four, and he came back, it would be like a much more welcoming reception. I think now that it's a three point spread and Tennessee has a chance to get a massive win, like it's going to be heated. Okay, so this is what I understand. What is an honorable way to leave as a coach in the fans' perspective? Because like, just from my perspective, it's just business. He saw a better opportunity and he took it. Dying on the sidelines

during the game. I don't have a problem with a coach. He carried out of that fucking stadium on a stretcher. I think it was the fact that he did it was also very late. It may have been January already when he left, but it was the middle of the night thing that I think took

a lot of people the wrong way. Okay, so if he did it in the daytime well it was a very rushed he like called a press conference at 2.30 in the morning said, hey, I'm leaving, and that was it. What is what I don't understand is, do you get that upset when an athletic director fires a head coach off the whim like that, or he's just like, that's what it is? He wasn't performing.

I also think it was the fact that, like, he, people thought he was going to be very good and he left, and it was just, I wasn't. You didn't answer, you didn't ask my question. What, would people get mad if he got fired? I'm saying, do you get as upset, like with athletic directors if they fire coaches just off the whim, like in the middle of the night and with the press on. Well, probably not because if you're getting fired,

it means you weren't doing a very good job. Gotcha. But I think, I think for the most part, Tennessee fans have forgiven him save this week when we want to win. I think what pisses me off is when coaches are telling their players something. And then meanwhile, they're planning the entire time their next move. That I'm not going to name any names, but the coaching the NFL that likes fingering buttholes

who aren't his wife's the most. That guy is really into doing stuff like that. So, like, that really pissed me off. Like when Bobby Petrino went to the NFL, and then I think he quit on his team in the middle of the season by leaving a note in the locker room. After Monday night football. Yeah, so didn't even, like, have the courage to talk to his players

after asking them to buy it and to respect him for whatever, seven, eight games over. That guy's the biggest snake of all time. Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense. I understand. A lot of coaches are snakes when it comes to that sort of thing. Yeah, I think if that's what I guess, I guess that was my question,

because that whole he just left I never really understood that because like they made me fire my fuck is left and right nobody cares I also think it was feeling like you were used as a stepping stone like he went to Tennessee was okay and then you just got poached by USC

I think a lot of people didn't like that yeah that's an insecurity yeah but Daleks fans feel about Kyrie like he left and like chose someone else over you like people wouldn't be so mad that he fucking sucked right if he was bad go to the team in my

conference but he's really fucking good so it's like well damn I wish that didn't happen it does feel like that I didn't know diggers has sports and securities that's funny yeah cities do of course cities catch feelings like very easily especially Boston and Philadelphia

I feel like those are the two most like you do not want to use them as a stepping stone you don't want to leave them scorned I mean rarely it happens to Philly a lot I think that's why the Kyrie thing was such a shock like that does not happen here really ever i guess that's why um sports is so profitable is because people invest so much in it emotionally and i guess i never really understood that aspect of it i just can't relate you were on the field yeah

it's a little different yeah it's like i mean when clin when lebron came back to cleveland for the first time they had to call in fucking the u.s national guard Like, it was, they're like something disastrous could happen here because of how fucking people felt. It was like a betrayal when it was really just a guy took a different job in another city. Like, it just happens to be on the news. Yeah, I guess I don't, I don't mean this as disrespect because millions of fans are like soccer, football, everywhere. And this is, like I said, I just can't relate. And I don't mean this is disrespect.

When I did relate, I was, I was like a child. when I was, I was young and, like, Michael Jordan would lose and I would cry, like, and it meant that much to me. But as an adult, like, with responsible, I don't understand the passion to the extent of, like, disrespecting another man or, like, you know, like, shit like that. Like, I understand, like, fucking around with your friends and, like, oh, my squad, because, like, I'm a Lego fan now, right? So like my squad, but I can never like would I do anything outwardly to like disrespect somebody or his family or something like that just because of my, that's when I guess I just lose the, I don't understand the thought process. You can't picture yourself showing up to a game with like your chest painted because you're such a diehard fan of the Houston Texans. I can't, but I mean, like I said, the fandom has afforded me a life's luxury. And so I appreciate it.

But I just don't understand the extent that it goes to. It's not that I guess I just can't relate. I guess it's more. No, here's the quote from this episode. Thanks for the money, simps. Ari and Foster. You're fucking idiots. No, I mean, it is, it's marketed as like the ultimate distraction.

You know what I mean? Like, and that's where I think when when things got a bit too political for people, they were like, you're ruining my fucking, this is what I do to get away from that shit. And it's just like, well, we're real humans too. And people were like, no, you're not. Run the ball. So it's, it's, yeah, I mean, and for us, I mean, we're the most, like, at Barstle, it's like the most hyper version of it.

Like, when the Red Sox lose, because of how brash and how much shit I talk throughout the course of the season, I might as well be on the goddamn field because I'm also accessible. Like, it's like, I could tweet it. Brady Martinez, he's not going to see that shit. I know you always online. You are going to see that shit. So it gets us way more invested into it. Like, yeah, it is very childlike.

Like, we do stick to that part of childhood through sports, a thousand percent. I'm not, man. Yeah. Like I can't relate, but that's what's up. There is like an illusion that we create in our heads. Like Collie was saying, when people get mad about any sort of politics coming into sports. because a lot of sports fans do have that wall that's just set up where in our minds like they're the football team that we root for

is a representation of us to a certain extent because you grew up you know that was a tradition that you might have going to games with your family was a big part of your falls it was a family event it was a community event it's how you got to know the people in your city a little bit and so it takes on this notion that a football team is an extension of yourself and that's why when when owners like pack up and leave town it can just shatter somebody's entire reality and sense of identity because it takes everything that you thought that you knew and you're like, wait, I'm just, I'm just disposable waste

to this guy. I got two examples and this is, okay, that makes 100% of sense. So when Kobe died, when Kobe died, I wept like a kid, like a child, like I wet, I cried like I was boo-hooing, like, for real. And I didn't know why. And I had to do a lot of like self-reflection as to why I was crying, like really, like, like that kind of crime when Kobe died. I met him once.

I didn't know him. He texted a few times. I didn't really know him like that. Like, why am I crying? And it finally dawned on me that Kobe was a part of my childhood. Kobe was like a source of inspiration in my day-to-day life where it was like I would get and draw inspiration from him and take that and apply it to my life and execute.

And I executed. And it was like a part of me had left to when he died. And that makes 100% sense. Another example, I was talking recently with a friend of mine who was a sports reporter who was from San Diego. And when San Diego left and they went to LA, San Diego was like, well, they loved the charges, right? They didn't like the owner, but they love the charges. And when they left, she was like a part of her, like, we'll never root for the charges again because her grandmother, like every, their whole family used to root for the charges. and they were so salty about them leaving that it was like her missing a part of her relationship

with her grandma, like they bonded over that. And it was like they're just really upset about it. And that makes 100% sense. And I guess that's why, you know, people take it to the links that they do. You know, sometimes they take it too far, but you know, that makes sense. And I don't want to sound like I'm downing people for having, like, passionate hobbies such as sports because it takes us away from our day to day. and then it helps us inspire like it did for me.

I think maybe from the athlete's point of view, you guys, when you're playing, you're passionate about either your teammates, if you're on a really good team, a really tight-knit team, you form a bond with your teammates, so you want to play hard for them. You want to do everything you can to help them

because if you do your job, they do their job, everybody benefits in the end, and you develop a closeness with them in the locker room. And to a surrex, sometimes players grow to love the city that they're in. Like, you can see a little bit of that with Josh Allen. I know that he's like in love with Buffalo, New York.

And sometimes players just, they do develop that attachment, even if it's nowhere near where they grew up. But it's never going to be the same for a player to have that same, like, attachment that you have if you grew up in that environment. So it's just like, yeah, they're never, because they come from different backgrounds, they're never going to have that same like love for the team and for the city that you might have. But it's fine. I think it all works out. It's an ecosystem. we're just we're the the plankton what's the most important part of an ecosystem billy sunlight beavers beavers the more beavers there are an ecosystem the health here it is

that's a fun fact i think big cat told me that actually um but yeah we are i think the fans are the beavers in that case uh so before we end the tennessee minute anything else we want to football wise actually i'm i'm interested to hear arians take from the percentage perspective of a player. You've played for some coaches in the past that some of which you've loved, some of which you have not respected or liked. Out in Oakland, the email situation with, I guess Las Vegas, sorry, the email situation with John Gruden, where the email was leaked from like 10 years ago, right? I think it was like, 11. It was the lockout. 2011, during the lockout, he was an employee at ESPN. He was writing emails to the president of the

Washington football team. And I think he called DeMora Smith, the head of the NFLPA. I think he said dumb, Orris Smith, and that he had lips like the Michelin Man. So pretty much. Michigan Tires. Michelin. Oh, okay. I thought was the Michelin man. He had similar train of thought. Yeah, but just blatantly racist stuff. It, the report came out, I think, on Friday that they uncovered this email when they were doing the investigation of the Washington football team. Inside a locker room, after something like that happens, is it a case where, like, if you liked John Gruden before, you'll find a reason to defend him,

or if you already hated him, this is going to make you hate him more? I'm just curious from the perspective of somebody that's been in a locker room like that, how the team would react to a situation like that. I mean, there's no talent, right? Especially in today's climate. I think this cats are different out days.

I don't know how they would react. I guess we had a similar situation in Houston with Bobby McNair when he said inmates are running and sign them. But he had said a lot of stuff previously. I think that's why Houston doesn't really, like the organization doesn't really fuck with me because when he did, I called him out on it. I called a spade of spade and call him out.

Like, I just said what, you know, we all thought. Like, I thought he probably had some racism. Like, he's an 80-year-old man from the South. Like, more than likely, yeah, he had probably said some shit in his past. I think when you're dealing with, like, somebody like Gruden, who's like a player's coach and has dealt and been around black folk his entire career and benefited off of black folk, like, I'm, I wouldn't be, Surprise if, like, this is just me, and I know Big T's fan base going to come after me, man, but

I think I just, just from my life experience, I kind of just, you're probably racist. That's, that's how I view white people. That just is what it is. And it, it's not like anything that's a indictment, right? It's more so the circumstances that we're in. And so you have to actively think about the society that you're in and be proactive as why are there certain nuances, why are there certain things, why are there certain cultural customs if you want to act against it, right? And I have some prejudices and bias that I actively work against as well. Like I grew up extremely homophobic, extremely homophobic.

And it wasn't anything that I was attacking against. It was just the culture that I was brought up in was anti-homosexual. It just was what it was. And I think we live in a society that's just racist. It just is what it is. And so when I look at something like Gruden, you have to, like I said, you have to be proactive about it and proactive. Like when you say when you say stuff like that, and this is why people, like when you talk about like activists and stuff like that, they always say it's important for people to understand their privilege and their power because when you have somebody in positions of power like that, do you think. think he actively tries to um higher people of color probably not right it's probably not the case and that's that's the issue and when you look at the disparities in jobs and and that our economy in general this is what we're talking about um but like i said i don't want to get all in big t's bag right here but that's there's no there's no there's no there's no there's no way of knowing how

how they'll react, but that's just how I feel in general. I think that's probably a pretty honest perspective. I think you're probably right. Like, just because it sounds bad to say, like, oh, most white people have some racism late inside them, like, you can say, you can say that a lot of people have different prejudices that are late inside it. It doesn't make all of people evil. It doesn't mean just because you have, like, whatever prejudice that you've grown up with,

it doesn't mean that you're an evil person. But it's, I think it's a. realistic perspective of the world like no one we're not perfect no one's perfect yeah and i don't walk around like you're a fucking racist you're it's not what i do right it's just i have the just from my life experience it's just you probably yeah so i like you kind of have to convince me and not right but i don't treat you any differently like i treat you how you treat me like i treat you i treat you fairly right i don't i don't treat you like any differently like if you if you treat me honest and kind and whatever. It's all love on my end. But it's just from my life experiences, that's just

what I've seen over the years, that we all have those prejudices and all those biases. Like I said, and I have them, like, I'm not exempt. I have them as well. And I had to be proactive. I had to go seek the LGBT community and talk to them and listen to them and understand why what I was saying and what I was thinking and what I was doing can be detrimental to them. And it's just, just being honest with where you're at. And I think as a society, we're really not. And any time you're labeled as anti-this or anti-that, you automatically take an offense because it's like,

oh, I'm a piece of shit. Like, I'm not a piece of shit. Like, no, you're probably not. But you probably have some biases in you, bias in you that prevents you from seeing that what you do can probably maybe cause harm to somebody else. And that's all that is just being honest with yourself. And I don't think we, as society, are good at that.

We're just like, we like to put on the veil of perfection. And we're there's not. I agree. I agree. Well said. I think also the phrasing that Gruden used, like the lips like Michelin Tires or like the Michelin Man, that's a deep cut. That's, that to me is not like the first time he's fired off a quasi racist email.

You know, like that's, that to me tells me he's, he's had some practice with it. You don't just pull that one out of your bag, you know, like, he's, he's definitely used things like that before. And then his explanation was that he calls people who are liars rubber lips. and so he didn't mean anything racial by it, but he could see how it comes off as a racist statement. And like we said, I think we said this last night,

I'm part of my take, but we're just, we're still shocked that John Gruden uses email. That was the big surprise for me. I felt like he was just like a pen and a post-it note. This may be a carrier pigeon guy. I don't know. It seemed kind of old school.

But, yeah, interesting to hear what you would think. I'm curious to know what's going on that Raiders locker room. Like if they're, if they had won yesterday. or they might have, you know, winning covers up just about every bad thing in a professional sports locker room.

It can cover up a lot of stuff, but they lost pretty badly. Richie and Cognito probably had like a gift basket waiting for him. Sorry, John. It's crazy he's still in the NFL. Like, not even for the things he's done. He's like 37 years old at this point. Like, it's crazy.

He's like a captain on that team. Yeah. I mean, Gruden likes a little bit of crazy for sure. And Richie's got that. I think Richie actually, Richie's been working on himself for the last few years. So he definitely had like some mental health issues and some pretty scary stuff that went on in his personal life

and definitely had some rage issues leading up to all that. But I think he's been under the radar a little bit. I think Richie's maybe turned some things around, which is good to see because he was in a dark place for a long time. Wow, boy. Yep. All right. That was Tennessee Minute.

Brought to you by producing. My last thing on Tennessee, which I can't believe how much of a Tennessee show this has become. Like, why don't we have like an orange piece of merch? That's a good question, Cooley. I'm in on that. All right. Why have you not designed a piece of orange merch so far?

I didn't know that y'all wanted a piece of orange merch. Well, I mean, we've got the fucking starting quarterback now. And Tyler Barron, who's projected to be a top five pick as of me just saying it right now. I don't, it seems like a win-win. And this seems like a good way for, especially if we can use their likeness. So I was going to say, yeah, if we've got them,

why we need a shirt with like everybody on it, all of us and then them. Yeah. Well, I don't know if they would want that. I need all to proceed. Yeah, or whatever, however it works out for percentage wise. I don't, that's not my department. But yeah, that for sure is a good way for them to make money

just off their literal likeness and our shell. Yeah, let's get some Tennessee merch. All right, that was a Tennessee minute. Looking forward to having Hinden Hooker as part of the team, for sure. He's good. He's a good player. We could definitely do some merch with Hinden Hooker. Right, Billy?

They think that we're such idiots, just handing out money. Yeah. Are we marks? They might think that now. But when they older, they'd be like, you know what? Dude is trying to put us on game. And dude was trying to show love. That's all that was.

Yeah. That's all that is. I mean, we know that we're marks. We completely understand that there's... No, no, no, no. No, no. I fuck that. There's an old saying that says it ain't tricking if you got it.

Period. That's all that did. That's not breaking my pocket. It ain't breaking your pocket. All we doing is showing love to young black athletes getting screwed over by the NCAA. That's it. That's true. That's true.

And, yeah, when they're a little bit older, they'll be like, okay, they knew what they were doing. Yeah. Hopefully they think that were good guys. But at any way, we hope that they... have a little walking around money able to have a little bit more fun in college 100 it's not like we we heard his negotiation tactics it was like man this is this is tough this is steep we was like I see exactly what this nigga's building yeah and I respect it yes I do too I would do the exact same thing if I were in his hundred percent bring up bringing all the homes whole squad I'm which all right

hinden hooker potential future macro dosing athlete will we'll keep you guys informed about the negotiations uh but I think let's just you guys want to just get to that topic this is is pretty quick that was only like a half hour right i don't think i don't think that yeah i don't think that's i don't think that's us just getting to the topic you all want to you don't want to talk about ghosts boo it's spooky season right now it's Halloween coming up and uh we want to talk a little bit about ghost billy it looks like you got something on your mind he's about to unload again dog let it all i actually i i i kind of ghosted ghosts that's unfortunate yeah yeah You didn't do your, you didn't do your homework?

No, I did my, I have a good amount of homework. I thought we were going to do it the other week, so I have a good preparation. Okay. Are you lying to me right now? No. So let me see your sheet. I think you're lying to me. I don't have a sheet.

Where's your preparation, Billy? I've been sitting in my brain. What's your preparation, Billy? You just totally lied to all of us. He's like a waiter that doesn't write down what you ordered and you just know it's going to get fucked down. Billy just lied to all of our faces. It's in my brain. Well, you started, Bill, you fucking started this sentence out by saying, I go

ghosted ghosts, meaning you didn't do work. And then you tried to say that you did do the work. Okay, this is what really happened. I came a little late to the Tennessee Minute. Then I was totally like trying to get caught up with the Tennessee Minute. And I wanted to participate in some banter before we got into ghosts. Okay. What about the, what about the 24 hours previous that?

Oh, no. I have preparation for ghosts. Where is it? It's in my brain. I think he's lying. And then I have a bunch of, I have a couple of, I have a couple of, uh, instances of hauntings I want to bring up. Aaron, I think this is cap. I think this is

a hundred percent cap. Okay. What are your thoughts? I think this is cap. I think this is cap. All right, Billy, tell you what, I'm going to need five ghost facts, and I'm going to need them now. Okay, ectoplasm is what ghosts are made out of. It is an ethereal type of construction

that no one really knows what it is. This isn't ghostbusters. Ghosts may be caused by carbon monoxide poisoning in old buildings. What's that one? You're slandering the good name of ghosts. for no reason, just because you didn't come prepared. What the, what the, what the, what the, what the, what the biggest made out of again?

Ectoplasm. That's a high sea flavor. Ghosts are made out ectoplasma. Got you. Yeah, then carbon monoxide might cause ghost sightings because they're, it's present. Carbon monoxide poisoning in old buildings might cause people to hallucinate and think they see ghosts. Um, there are more ghost sightings in. settlements that are older due to more people being dead more people being dead

yeah all right that's that's three i think we've got three ghost facts so far going to need two more um ghosts are present in all of humanity's cultures like dragons you just made that one up no dragon you were thinking about dragons this whole time and you just changed you did a mad lives where You took out the noun and you replaced it with ghosts. Ghosts, everyone believes in, there's been ghosts in every single culture. It's not a single culture that doesn't believe in ghosts. Hold on. What about the Sentinel Islands?

I do believe, we don't know about that. Yeah. I do believe that everybody, every culture believes in ghosts some kind of way, some kind of form. But I'm not sure about the dragon part. Every, every culture believes in a dragon. Yeah, I mean, name a culture. Okay. Yeah, the United States of America

The Jersey Devil I don't think people There's not a dragon There may be 5,000 people that believe in that I'm talking about ancient cultures Like there's quitsichodal What about Egypt? Egypt, Egypt has dragons Egypt has huge dragons

They have the They have the their god is a dragon They have one of their gods Is a dragon Oh I think it's raw I think it's a son god That's the sun no which ones

The what which ones the crocodile with wings. That's not a dragon. A dragon. Tell him out. Define dragon before you can say that. Just like a giant reptilian monster thing. Like Asian dragons.

Okay. So when I think dragon, I think like, aerial reptile. Oh, that's very, that's very Eurocentric. That's just the classic European dragon. That's not,

that's not true. That's the classic. As we have previously previously, explained, when I think of dragon, I think of the Asiatic dragon, right? You think of the Viking dragon. I don't even know. There's not a Viking dragon. Or whatever the fuck, the white dragon. I don't know.

What is the white dragon? The white people dragons? The white people dragon. Where is he from? No, those are just like the thing that can't be a female, Aaron. Yeah. There are no female dragons. We all know this.

Yes, they are. They lay eggs. There was a female dragon in Trek. Yeah. Any Game of Thrones. It was a joke. There was probably female dragons. The doctor was a woman. Oh, that new Disney movie.

It's called Raya or Raya. Bro, that shit is fire. About dragons. How to Train Your Dragon. And there was a female. That was another fire, which I thought they got robbed. So How to Train Your Dragon, too, should have won. Was it the Emmy, the Oscar, whatever that award is?

And Big Hero 6 won it. I'm not mad at Big Hero Six, but how to train your dragon, too? That shit with that shit, bro. Oh, my God. Is that like an all-time robbery at the Oscars? It's one of them. Absolutely. Big T, are you all right, money?

Three-run Homer, it's Jocktober, baby. Come on. Yes. Oh, I think he just came. Oh, my God. Yes. Big T. Is that how you sound during sex?

Oh, yeah. I'm generally pretty quiet, to be honest. This is far more exciting. Oh, my God. Yeah, have you ever tried combining the two? I couldn't. I couldn't. Not with the Braves.

I could go so poorly. Oh, man, Big T's pumped. Oh, my God. That ball was shit on. Oh, I'm so excited. There's a playoff game going on right now? Yes, and it's really, it's, this was not. Yeah, MLB tried to fuck us.

3 o'clock over there. LB's been doing this forever. You know that. They always have to. But it's always us, though. It's always us, though. We always played the one o'clock Monday. We played the athletics plenty of times at one day.

On a Monday? Why would they do this on? Why would they schedule them? Well, today is a holiday for people with normal jobs. What's today? It's, see, we're dead. Indigenous people's day. Yeah.

They still celebrate that bullshit. Oh, my. I thought they canceled after that episode of The Sopranos. That was a good episode. This episode already too woke, man. Let's not get into Christopher Columbus. Christopher Columbus is, there's a lot that we can get into. There are definitely some ghosts that he created that are probably still around.

It's like literally raped people, bro, like and talked about it. Like, I'm so confused why we celebrate this thing. I agree. We should celebrate Leaf Erickson Day. He truly was the one that discovered, from Europe, discovered Canada, right? And once they found out there was people here, they left. Yeah. Shout out the Vikings.

Those are my people. Respectful. Yeah. They've never done anything bad. No, they're good, good visitors. Left a great review on Yelp. Should we disavow Christopher Columbus? I don't think that Christopher Columbus is that hot in the streets anymore.

I don't think that there are people out there. Like his public image has really, if you're buying stock. taking a nose dive. He probably was at an all-time high in 1980, I would say. And now, yeah, that was his doge coin moment when he was up real high. He's dropped probably about like 75% of his value since then. I'm more than that. I still learned the song, though.

In 1400, it's a banger. In like 2005. In 1492, Columbus, the ocean blue. Yeah. The Nina, the pink to the Santa Marina. Maria. Santa Maria. yeah the song is really keeping them alive that's what they say and you're thinking of the

what's the lonely island song where they say that oh you say no you know that this is that's step brothers oh whatever boats and hose boats and hose yeah but i think they say Santa marina right like they say it wrong oh i didn't know that oh maybe but uh yeah so people normal people do have today off which good for them so they're around to watch the baseball game it's also marathon day right Coley? That's right. Getting Red Sox playoff baseball on a marathon Monday, which is literally never happened since it's typically in April. Oh, that's right. So, yeah, why did they switch it to October? Well, luckily we've cured COVID. So they just pushed it back so we could be out of COVID. So brilliant. They had so many people running it. They had people running it yesterday,

which you know they had no shot at winning if they told you to win the run the day before. Yeah, it's like a Friday wedding. No offense to anybody who's had a Friday wedding. So, yeah, I was actually, usually we play the marathon baseball game at like 10, 11 in the morning so it can get out as people are crossing the finish line. You can kind of watch that. So I'm a little upset that I think the game's at seven tonight. I'm sure big to you, is that right?

I never know times of games anymore. Yeah, it's the night game, whatever time that starts. 7.07. Something like that. 707 so I'm really I'm kind of it's throwing me off the my my marathon like feeling it doesn't feel normal um but yeah it's big day in boston area I got a question for you do you think right now you're a professional athlete allegedly uh do you think that you could step outside and run a marathon no hell no no training billy did it yeah it's like it's like it's like at 20 hell yeah

Absolutely. Right now? Nah, bro, I got a train for that. How far do you think you could run right now? I could do it. I would just have to pace myself. It's nothing like... When you say run a marathon,

do you just mean complete it? Complete it without walking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could probably do that. But like, with any kind of like efficiency? Nah, no. You could probably go like 12 miles per hour. Or, what is it, 12, not 12 miles an hour, a 12-minute mile. So there's like, yeah, yeah.

So there's like, there's something we used to call, well, boxers call that. I think we call it road work, where you just do this light load jog. You just get into this little light load. I could do that all day if I needed to. It's something that is kind of like, so when you like finish your like workout on a track, you would get into that road work and you would just kind of like, it would be a cool down. It would be a cool down.

It would be like a light load pace that it will never be hard. It's just annoying. I don't, I never really understood people that run. for fun. There's nothing fun about running ever. I hate it. I'm a running back and I fucking hate running. It's your job description. Fucking hated it, bro. Yeah. Getting tired sucks. Why would you ever want to do that to yourself on purpose? Then your legs hurt. Then you wake up the next morning. Your feet hurt. And the only way to get rid of some of the soreness is to do it again so that you feel less sore the next time. It's a big fucking joke. The endorphins though.

You do get runners high, allegedly. But I've not, but just like the workout high. It's true. that's true i i've never experienced runners high but i do there have been times sometimes if i'm running like four or five miles where at some point i just i get tunnel vision and i just focus on something like if i'm on treadmill way off in the distance and then i feel like i'm just like hypnotized maybe maybe i'm describing it sounds like i'm describing runners high yeah i was hoping i would like get the munchies or there would be like hallucin you know i was comparing it some other stuff that have done in the past but it's not maybe i have gotten high it's still not worth the squeeze it's it's also what basketball players call like or i don't know just basketball like

this what's called your second wind when you're like hell of tired and all of a sudden you hit this state when you're tired where it's like oh i can go way longer it's same same kind of concert did you ever play in denver uh yes that's real the altitude is a real thing so i grew up in albuquerque new mexico as a child. And Albuquerque is actually higher than Denver out to two eyes. That's a fun fact. Yeah, it is a fun fact.

And so for years, like, after I moved out of Albuquerque, like my lungs have, I've always been like, it was a joke, because I was running joke on all my teams that I could just run forever.

And I think a lot of it had to do with one. My brother, my brother had really long legs when it was growing up, and he used to, like, running long distance. And I was just like, little bro trying to do what he did. And so I used to run with him.

And I was shit at it, but he, like, made me do it and, like, taught me how to do it. And so when I left, I could just run for days. And it felt way easier. And so when I went back to play the Denver, it's, I don't know the science behind, like, the muscle memory, if there's muscle memory in lungs, but I didn't feel the effect of it like everybody else did. Like, they even have signs, like, when you go to the Denver Stadium, they have signs in the opposing locker room that says, like, this is a real thing. like the altitude like if people pass out and stuff like that um but i i didn't feel any effective of it that's what i grew up in and uh it just it didn't do anything like when i was growing up my dad used to tell us and this is true like kenyon you know them kenyon runners yeah

they used to a lot of them used to train in albuquerque i don't know if it's folklore but he's which he used to tell us um but they say they used to train in albuquerque because it was like one of the highest places to train damn i didn't know that about albuquerque so if when i have kids i want to raise them in albuquerque if i want them to be excellent athletes uh no i don't think you would go that far uh oh i would they they'd be good james smokers for sure that's what they say about the gherkas the nepalese fighters yeah in the british empire they used to have a special forces made up of gherkas who had the same things that they grew up in the himalayas they had way better stamina than any of the other people yeah no that that's a legit thing because there are people that make

living on the mountains in the Himalayas acting as tour guides, or not tour guides, but like mountain guides, the Sherpas. Yeah. And the Sherpas, they through, you know, years and years and years of evolution, their parents had to be able to survive at high altitudes. And so their parents had to be able to survive at high altitudes. So through the course of natural selection, the kids that are born in Nepal in certain areas just have the ability to maximize oxygen usage but i feel like it's honestly not uh nature but nurture like growing up you built since you have to have that air capacity you not it's like built up oh i think it's both i definitely think it's both because all right billy transport yourself back like 500 years right before any sort

of modern medicine right you're growing up in nepal at your school in your class there are a hundred kids, right? Because you're in such harsh conditions that are higher than most human beings will ever live, you're going to have a certain percentage of those kids that won't make it to adulthood because they get a disease that's exacerbated by the altitude and can't circulate blood as well as some of their other peers. So then the ones that do make it to adulthood and have kids, they pass on their more efficient genes. Evolution. Evolution. I know how it works. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying. So it is, I think it's both nature and nurture, because you can can take somebody and have them train at altitude

and get some benefit from. You're a fucking mansplained it to Billy. Billy knows it. But Billy literally just said it's... I'm just saying I think that it's not only just genetic. Like you can take anybody raise them in Albuquerque and they'll have better lungs and people who are raised on the beach sea level. Yes.

I agree. That's why I want to take my children to Albuquerque, New Mexico and force them to get good at breathing. Perfect. The best thing about Albuquerque is what... You know, so maybe Big T, did you grow up in a small town? I mean, like a regular-sized suburb. I mean, like not a big city, but yeah, like a.

Maybe this is a small town thing. I don't know if this is like just Albuquerque or just like small town living in general. But it's the biggest city in the state, but it's a small town comparatively to like other big cities. Growing up at Albuquerque, I was, it might have been my neighborhood too. But I was like, but it was just everywhere. It was everywhere. I remember every, like the white kids across in North. It was everywhere.

Drugs were so prevalent, right? And so this is why I love the Albuquerque, right? Drugs were so prevalent in that city. And I think it was because, I don't know why, but I don't want to speculate, but drugs were so prevalent in that city that as a very young kid, I was introduced to a lot of drugs, like a lot of drugs. Like it was, I was just, I saw it everywhere. And by the time I got to another city, like, it was,

it was already normal to me. And I understand how that could sound horrible, but, like, it was already normal to me. Like, I already done and experienced and seen, like, pretty much everything, like, drug-wise. But, like, in bigger cities, like, when I went to high school, like, I was out of college, I mean, I had seen and done everything. So it wasn't, like, new to me.

And so I was appreciative of the experience that I had as a young kid. Not I'm thinking about it. I think that was just, I was just, it was just you. Yeah, it was just. And nothing to do that. I think it was just the neighborhood, yeah. I think it's just a name. Not I'm thinking about it.

I've never really, but I think, no, I do, but I don't because it was more prevalent there than other cities. Like, it was very prevalent,

like everywhere. Like, what type of drugs are you talking about? Because like smoking weed is. Nah, and no one's smoking. I'm talking about like drugs. Like,

so like I did, I did mushrooms when I was 12. Like, I was 12 and I was tripping on mushrooms. I did, um, I see, I seen coke.

I seen crack. I never, I haven't done coke. or crack, I was afraid I was going to die. But I sink that shit as like a young kid, like really young. And, and I know in different neighborhoods and different areas, drugs are very prevalent. But it was like that everywhere. Like I'm talking about the rich folks, the middle class folks where we was, it was just drugs were very prevalent.

And I'm unsure I have a feeling that it was, it was the city that it's not just. Or maybe it's everywhere. I don't know. crack is one of those drugs that I I'm always confused how people get hooked on it because if you look at people that that smoke crack habitually there's nothing about like that lifestyle that that should appeal to anybody but I guess it must be awesome it must be like a great great wonderful feeling at least your first time that you do or your second time so I have buddy who should sell it and and so he was explaining to me what people would say about it and it was like Like, it was the, it's like the best feeling that you could ever feel. And the reason why I know that it's probably that is morphine is like heroin. Similar, very similar. I think it's just a low dosage.

And when I had a surgery, I think I talked about this before, but when I had a surgery and they give you a little drip because it's hurting so much, they give it. So you hit it and it gives you more morphine. it is unreal like how delicious that feels and heroin is like way more potent than that so if heroin feels like that i assume crack feels it just makes you feel like you're on top of the word nothing can harm you or just everything feels so good so i understand why it it gets to that extent but i don't i couldn't do it just because you said like the the detriment of it so nationally new medicine was from three years ago

Albuquerque Business, the Business Journal Network, Albuquerque specific. New Mexico is number six out of 50 states plus DC for drug use. New Mexico, this is just statewide. New Mexico ranked third for highest percentage of teenage drug users, so Aaron. And 14 for highest percent of adult users. Because I grew up, I grew up Albuquerque. I went to high school in San Diego. And when I went to San Diego, it was almost like when I'm,

My first thought was like, everybody kind of prude here. Like, everybody smokes some drinks. Like, some people smoke, some people, but it was kind of like, y'all don't really do this shit. Like, this is how I grew up. I just remember vividly how prevalent it was. I used to roll weed in class, though. That's how bad.

I used to go to the, in middle school, we used to go to the, what we called the barracks of the bathrooms. And we used to smoke weed in middle school. And that's, like, thinking about, now I have a child in middle school. I'm thinking about her going to a bathroom and smoking weed is fucking bananas. But it was so prevalent there that it was normal. And it didn't seem out of pocket to me. But that's how prevalent it was.

And I just have that feel. There's no, I think it's very extremely anecdotal, but this is how it feels. I think maybe a lot of, a lot of states or cities that are landlocked that don't have a whole lot to do. That probably contributes to it too. And not a knock against Albuquerque. I'm not saying that it's a trash city. I'm saying that like compared to San Diego, you can, like, it's maybe one of the most beautiful cities in the United States. In terms of, you know, you got beaches, great weather, always stuff to do outside.

You're saying that the solution is the ocean? I'm saying the solution is global warming. Make everywhere a little bit nicer and then drug use will go down. So everyone go outside. Mix in next time you roll up a joint, sprinkle a little styrofoam into it and then burn that so we get rid of some of this ozone layer that's been so pesky for us. But coastal towns have just as much drug use. Is that true? Yeah.

Like think about like I know there's a huge, at least in my like, for. example, I heard there's a ton of drugs on like Nantuckin and Cape Cod amongst people who live their year round. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. I also forgot about Florida. Yeah. Hand up with the ocean. You're going to just, yeah, that just proves my entire thesis. More really the rest of California. Like, you didn't have to go far from San Diego. Like, there's plenty of shit in California. I mean, the most coastal state in the entire United States, Alaska, that, that's a place that has some drug issues for sure. You ever try to go out on a crab boat without using meth? No, thank you. Yeah.

And wasn't breaking bad, New Mexico? That was Albuquerque. Yeah. Yeah. Huh. Yep. Um, so ghosts. So, I think, Billy, did you get to four facts about ghosts? Yeah. So what's your fit? Um, my fifth is that, you know, some people think they can communicate with ghosts. They're called mediums. Hmm, that's true. Yeah. So what's the difference between a medium and a psychic? A mediums are the medium. in which like the word medium like the medium of the mode of transportation the medium is like the mode of you just use the word mode because it was a math term that sounded like median no which sounds

like between yeah between the dead and the living all right so the mode of transportation the medium of transportation between the is the mode man okay i tell you what i retract my accusation that you did not study up on ghosts. Boo, motherfucker. Sounds like you're an expert. Let's go around the room. I want to know everybody, what your stance is on ghost. First of all, if you believe them in ghosts

or not. So, Mad Dog, do you believe in ghosts? I don't know if I believe in ghosts. I believe in like spirits coming back. I don't know if I want to, I don't know if they like the term ghosts. But I believe that people who have passed on can come back to us. So yes, she believes in ghosts. Yeah.

Did you say that they don't like the term? I don't know. I haven't talked to one. She believes in ghosts, but she doesn't know if they're ghosts, like, called ghosts. He just, the hard. PC shirts. I don't believe in them, but if they did exist, they wouldn't appreciate it. I don't know.

I think dead people can communicate with us, but I don't. Ghosts can say ghosts, but we're not. Honestly, just going to put it out there, ghosts. If any of your ghosts, be, uh, be, it's cool to show your. presence at some point throughout the show if a ghost is fine if a if a G word is present with us right now you can flicker the lights and know that we'll listen but uh yeah i think so yes you mad dog very clearly believes in ghosts avery do you believe in ghosts and fears them fears them tremendously yeah i do believe in ghosts i think they're real absolutely i don't know if i can call them ghosts

anymore but yeah yeah arian no man no coley i'm open i'm open i'm open I'm just predicting it something's going to happen in the background of your screen and we're all going to be like you're going to be the non-believer and then someone's going to find it in the YouTube and be like that's a ghost right behind you area imagine like being a ghost or a spirit and like there's no ghost shit to do like you just fuck with living people your whole existence is to fuck with people have you ever seen practical jokers No.

It's basically what they do. Sounds stupid. Like, if that's, if that's what happens when we die, bro, just fucking keep me dead. Like, I don't, I don't want to, I don't want to fuck with people. Like, I want you to help people. I want you, like, there's no ghost, like, helping a nigga win a lottery or something shit. You know what I mean? Like, fuck out of it.

Like, I don't know. Do they see the future now? Are you saying, like, I don't know. These niggas can go through walls. These niggas can, there's all kind of shit they can do. I don't know. I don't know the ghost rules, bro. All I'm saying is I don't believe it.

And they always show. up at night, the niggas take the day off every day. It's also some sick stuff if you're a ghost and you can see everything that your ancestors are doing all the time, that's gross. Exactly. And what does it stop, right? Like, say, I'm naked. Like, are they watching that?

Do they have to watch it? Can they go somewhere else? Do they give me privacy? Can they go somewhere else? If they do? What if there's like, like, disgusting ghosts, right? Niggas those perverts in their real life. And they just go around and fucking stock women and just beat off to the ghost meets.

I don't know. The whole concept don't make ghost gum. Yeah. Coley, what about you? I do believe in ghosts, but not in like the traditional sense of like pretty much everything Aryan just said. Like, like Scooby-Doo hijinks and like terrorizing high schoolers and stuff like that. like I just feel like you can leave energy behind when you die that shit escapes you and I think where terrible things have happened there's probably some really bad it's it's like a dumb down way to think of karma in a sense like where we talk about like not we specifically but people reference like building shit on Indian burial grounds which was the plot to a lot of movies in the 90s and early 2000s I think and it's like yeah some really bad things happened here like a lot of people were slaughtered like it probably has some bad energy hovering around

it um so yeah i i believe in it in that sense like i don't know why anyone like would be afraid of the traditional ghost you know they can't do anything really what about you so there's a certain amount of electricity in our body you know what i'm saying that like tells their muscles to move and contract like the saying like when you hook up a stem machine to yourself like in the electricity goes through your muscles so that like electricity is kind of what makes us alive and when you die that electricity sort of just dissipates out of your body and i think that's sort of maybe the basis of like what a soul is or you know what we can't explain can be explained by the supernatural supernatural or religious so if you were to tell me that when someone died that

electricity left their body and was just you know tracking around like hitting circuits or whatnot and that was sort of a presence or a power yeah i would believe in that if that's what a ghost is then so be it yeah all right pig tea um i think my answer kind of falls in line with coli like i do believe we have souls and i do believe there's an afterlife but i don't in the framework that we're discussing the g words i don't think those really exist yeah i i don't believe in hauntings necessarily. I don't think that ghosts have like self-realization. I don't think that after you die,

that your spirit gives you like a second life that's immortal, that you can go around and like you have, you know, a conscience that you have cognitive abilities and you get to choose what you do. I don't believe in that, but I do believe like what Billy said, your heart, when your heart beats,

that's just electricity turning positive cells into negative cells and vice versa. it's electricity that goes through and it makes your heart contract and that's why you know you get a pacemaker put in if you if you lose the sinus rhythm they put something like that and to just keep that heart beating there's electricity that goes throughout your body that keeps you alive that it's a big part of life and we're big science guys on this podcast I think somebody smart one time said that matter isn't created or destroyed right conservation of mass I remember that one from school so the electricity has to go somewhere has to exist somewhere on the earth. I don't know if that's what a soul is, but it's probably as close an explanation as you can get, and it's going to go somewhere, and if you have a really, you know, fucked up heart or something like that and your body's not producing electricity correctly, when that electricity escapes, maybe it's fucked up when it goes into whatever channel it ends up

in and maybe weird things happen. I don't know, but I'm not discounting the possibility of your body being able to affect things on earth after you die but i don't think from like a cognitive perspective of like okay i'm going to go i'm going to live in this dude's attic for 50 years and in a bed and breakfast and anytime someone comes in who's bad i'm going to tip their candle over really quickly on the mass uh talking about mass is not creator destroyed there was an experiment called a 21 grams experiment now it was in 1907 by a duncan mcdougal who is a physician from haver hill Massachusetts and basically he hypothesized that souls had a physical weight so he took a bunch of

people on who not on death row but who were in hospice care and about to die and he weighed them before they were about to die and after they died and on average he found that they all lost 21 grams of weight that's the last doctor that you want to see come into the room yeah you're like oh fuck the guy that's conducting an experiment to see where my soul went. Yeah, probably time to get my affairs in order at this point. Yeah. So that experiment has been debunked. Yeah, a hundred times.

Yeah, but the reason why I'm out on the soul thing is because it's not the essence of it, like makes sense, right? Because we all feel like we're more than what we actually are. Like, we feel like we're more than this chemistry. But there's been a whole bunch of instances. instances, right, where people have brain injuries and their personalities change, their accent changes, or they lose the fact that there's memory loss, right? If your soul is what it is, that should remain intact, but it's something else besides it, which I believe it's just the brain.

I want there to be a soul, but I don't see any evidence to the contrary. I just don't see. I just don't see it. It doesn't make, it doesn't make sense to me how, how you can have like split personalities or anything to cater. And maybe, like I said, there's just, there's a shit that we don't know. And that's cool, too. But I just don't, I just don't see it. The fact that I wasn't conscious for, we know the universe, close your years big T, we know the universe to be 13.8 billion years old, right? I was not conscious for any of that shit. I don't remember any of that shit. I was born in 1986. And all of a sudden, I was born in a project. I was born in a projects and here I am and when I die I don't it's it's probably going to be that I hope it's not

because I enjoy existing and shit but I just don't see how a soul comes into play and our memory just is so tied to our brain chemistry and I sound hella like like it's dreary thinking about that shit but I would love for there to be something else but I just don't see it but hypothetically what if because your soul is trapped in a vessel currently that your soul can't divulge all the information it knows and that comes when you die or before you're born and that's your limit your your bodily limit of being on earth is the reason why you can't experience that prior or post because your soul your soul won't snitch yeah i mean i think there's definitely possibilities.

Like I said, we've discussed ayahuasca and psychedelics in this podcast plenty of times where I feel like, I feel like something happens after death, but I just don't think it's probable. It's just what I feel. Sure, like, we can have like this encapsulating vessel where it keeps our past memory in whatever. I don't know. But it just, it's not very probable.

Like the probability of that being the case is just not. convincing enough for me to live my life like there is a soul so i think that i think that you do live on after you die but in a different way so check it out this is this is kind of how i feel about um the afterlife the things that you do on a day to day basis the people that you meet the interactions that you have and the memories that you make with other people will continue to have an effect on their lives after you're dead those people will be slightly changed in some way good or bad from whatever that experience was, the world will be slightly changed, good or bad from whatever you do while you're on it. Those decisions and those things that you do, those

actions that you take and the memories you make with other people while you're alive, those have an effect for those people moving forward after you're gone. The world continues to change because the trajectory that you've sent it on through your day-to-day life. And those changes are manifestation of the things that you did while you were alive, which means that your impact keeps continuing on the earth after you die but in more of like a philosophical way not like a metaphysical way where you're you know floating around wearing a sheet so um that you could make the argument that that's how that's how a ghost interacts with the world a dead person still having an effect on the world because of what they did that day like Einstein we talk about in a lot on

this show Einstein is still like very much alive in a way all the different experiments that that are happening right now when you look at like the large hadron collider and the advancing of technology and space travel all that shit gps gps yeah good luck driving across the country uh without using gps without using a small part of albert einstein's brain that's kind of carried on and passed through different uh mediums billy in different you know ways that people are are using the technology that he kind of invented or had had a hand in inventing so yeah things you continue to impact the world after you die, that is a great example. And I think a real example that we could probably all agree on of your spirit that lives on after you're dead.

It's interesting, though. One of the things, like, I'm not a huge fan of Jordan Peterson, but there's some of the shit that he says that I enjoy. And when he's dealing with psychology and stuff like that, I think he really beyond his shit. One of the things, things that he was saying was the reason why religion is so, I'm a butcher what he said, but basically we were saying it was like, the reason why religion is so important is because the stories passed down from generation to generation are interwoven with our culture, and that kind of makes us who we are, which is extremely powerful. And ghosts are part of that. Like having the dead be alive in our lives is a part of that. And so there is something,

to say about the how prevalent the presence of our fallen ancestors are that's like an extremely powerful notion yep uh day of the dead is a mexican holiday uh this i guess it's going to be on the first and second of november i'm not sure if it's a floating holiday i think it might always be on the first and second every year and was it chaps that was talking to us about day of the dead I believe so It might have been And how they What is it called

Dio de los Merto? Dio de los Mertos Yeah You go Fucking Coco Bro is one of the dopes Kids movies

of all time as well bro Yeah so So your family gathers around They have an altar to dead people People that were in your family

That passed away And then you have a great time Celebrating their life And it's I think it's a very healthy way To interact with You know We take

death and we turn into a very sad thing and a somber thing, which I think is the reason why we construct all these ghosts sometimes because it's so sad that there must be something spooky that happens afterwards. But the way that they celebrate in Mexico is more of a joyous thing and an excuse to celebrate the people that were around so you don't stop thinking about them. And a lot of times in America, I think you're trained to not think about people who have died because it makes you sad and you don't want to get into all those. his emotions. But thinking about them in a positive way, you know, eventually you think of someone who's passed away and you smile before you get sad when you think about that person. And it's a

very healthy way, I think, to remember them. I'm a big fan of the, we should do a Dia de los Mortos podcast on November 1st. I think we should be a Dia de los Muerrethos podcast instead of a Halloween podcast. That's what I think. No. What about an All Saints Day? What's All Saints Day? It's the day after, well, it's November 1st. Because Halloween was like the, the night before that. It was like an interwoven. What do they do on All Saints Day? I don't know.

Okay, sure. Yeah, I'm in. What are we being for Halloween? Ooh, can we have, can we have like an all podcast costume? No. You can have y'all. Can we all dress up as Big Tea? Yeah.

No. Yeah, I think of my. It's all wear Tennessee. Wait, hold on. Hold on. Don't want to dress up, bro? No. Where are we going to go?

Here? The office? Here, nigger. We dress up for work every year regardless. So I don't know where you think you get this idea where you're coming in as yourself. I'm just asking, why are you so fucking cool, bro? You don't want to dress up? I haven't dressed up for Halloween and Lord knows how many years.

Why are you so cool, bro? Is how any child that, like the child inside you died? Yeah, you're young as hell. You're supposed to still be about this shit. I'm still about this shit. Last year, I dressed up as Mario. And only three kids came to me. I got a hell of fucking drunk.

Just dressed up as Mario. And I was waiting. I had a whole, like a bowl full of candy like the kids. That might be a thing, too. Kids don't really go trick-or-treating like that anymore. At least in my neighborhood. Well, the whole lie about the razor blades inside the apples

really spooked an entire generation of parents. People are just freaked out that people are going to, like, drug their kids on Halloween. Yeah, I guess, oh, the edibles thing, the funniest thing that you saw that, uh, news story. They're like, watch out. People might be giving out these very, these, uh, spiked candies with marijuana. Yeah. You don't get the fuck out of here with this propaganda every year.

It's the biggest bullshit. I like, that story has never happened, not even by no one who has edibles is just like, you know what? I'm going to give these away for, they're too fucking expensive for that. Get out of it. There was one story about like a five or six year old, I think it was a boy that found, his parents gummies and they were they were in a package that looked like candies and he ate like i don't know 15 of them and so they took him to the hospital and they're like okay what do you want us to do at the hospital they're like yeah your son is very chill right now you might we're keeping

an eye on he might even become stoked soon so we're checking out the vital signs we're going to put on sponge bob for seven hours and he'll have a great time what is the weirdest shit y'all got in uh when you was trick and tree i'll go first one time this nigga we we used to do pillowcases oh yeah we used to fill them shit's up trash bags but like one time this dude literally had a bowl full of candy corns open bag just candy corns and just stuck his hand in it and then dropped it in our bag and i'm like what the fuck is wrong with you i'm not eating that shit i feel this is very important what does everybody think about candy corn i'm fine with it i like candy corn i'm fine with it i'm cool without strangers touching it like yeah

I like it and everybody seems to hate it I think it's gross I think it's disgusting for one month out of the year it's it's it's good it's just sugar it's not gross I don't they put a twang on it it is yeah it's not just sugar it's like

something it's kind of waxy it's waxy I think waxy no problem it fits the Halloween aesthetic the autumn aesthetic perfectly it is I I keep a bowl out because I think it's just like a nice decoration eating it like there's so many we have we've done sugar or too many perfect ways to be settling for candy corn I think it's fine it's it's nothing I would ever like go out and seek to eat but I'll have like a pack of candy corn every year I like

the pumpkins the pumpkin candy corns yeah or the third when instead of the yellow it's chocolate flavor I like those better pumpkins are real good I like this yeah Reese's pieces that's the all time. Oh, yeah. That's my shit, bro. I had, I don't, I don't need candy anymore, but that, that shit every now and then I'll, I'll taste one and regret it immediately after. I had a neighbor who was a dentist, and he was big on handing out the toothbrush at Halloween. Oh, yeah. Which, if you're a dentist, that's just bad business. Square. You want, you want these kids to have their teeth rotting out of their skulls by the time they're 10. That's just money. Who does he think he is caring? Yeah, exactly. Did you guys, did you guys

ever have to do the unicef boxes yeah i did that they hand you out in school these unicef boxes and have you like begging for change from the people who are giving you candy for charity begging for change yeah but like looking back on it just like having a bunch of kids being like you want to give us change for unicef yeah that had to be socialism that's that's the new world order right there that's globalist if you send a kid door to door collecting money for unicef right now which is, I'm trying to think off the time I had United Nations Infant Children Emergency Fund, something like that. Yeah.

The money goes to helping kids that don't have enough food to eat overseas. And if you sent people door to door with those, you would absolutely get some people being like the deep state has activated the globalist children right now. I'm surprised that hasn't been politicized yet. I'm sure it has. That UNICEF boxing. I'm sure it has. I know, but that was just like such like a part of my.

childhood that I just brought back up in my brain right now and I was like surprised no one's like tweeted about that yeah what if some of that money goes overseas and uh helps the next baby hitler recover from dysentery what is this unicef shit I'm so I'm out of the what is unicef boxes is they not do this it it's the UN children's fund they they sometimes pass out these cardboard boxes that the kids carry around on Halloween and you go door to door and then if somebody has loose change around their house they put it in the box and then you send the boxes in usually through your school and then they send that money over to the united nations and distribute that overseas i have never heard of that i think it might be a public school thing

yeah i think they uh i think they picked which public school i know but i mean like in in i think it's a very new thing is it an east coast thing but i don't do it he said you did it right i did it yeah this huh it's not that new but i didn't do it in the midwest no you're right i think it was probably 1992 1994 yeah i did in like early

2000s it was a thing yeah and you probably have to like select which which neighborhoods you're going to you don't want to go to like a very poor neighborhood and be like hey can I have some of your money yeah i appreciate the candy but can you also pay me yeah this is a stick up

yeah So Halloween, fun times. Yeah, we'll get dressed up this Halloween. Aaron, I also want you to send a picture of yourself dressed up as Mario. I would do that. I'll do you one better. I actually, because I was hell of faded, I actually played the piano while I was dressed up as Mario. And I had the gloves on and everything.

It was hard to do, but I did it. Hell yeah. I got you. I sent it to the group set. Did you say that not that many kids came to your door? No, it was like three, dog. And I had a bag for them. I was handing them out, like we were giving a Tennessee player.

dog i'm gonna make rain yeah i feel like the rich neighborhood is where to go trick-or-treating it is but they don't ever do it you niggas don't come i was i'm like i was so disab i was gonna have like oh i had a plan on my house gonna dress up as you know as a as a mario brother i was gonna be in character i was gonna do this i was gonna be great dog i'm niggas not show up i was this just last year or historically uh the last the last year because you usually i would be i was out of town or something like that but this last year I had time and they didn't

I also feel like this last year Coley's probably getting to this right now not great in terms of volume of trick or treasers not a great time to go to strangers houses it was before it was pre-COVID Coley didn't you go as you got dressed up as was it Wario

yeah it was Wario was Mario mine was based off of Mario Kart so I don't know if their hatred seems to be a little bit more leveled there than in the rest of the video game lure. But, yeah, I was, I mean, Wario's just so funny to me. Just as a little fat guy, angry about everything.

This attack move and Super Smash Bros. And so fart you off the screen. Like, what a character. I love the idea, like, stay away from that house. There's a drunk Mario running around in front of the house. I would love to see Big T. get dressed up as Toad. I think you'd make a great, straight tail. Oh, you would make a good toad.

But totally amazing. Big T, we got to get this good. Why are you so anti-dressing up for Halloween, bro? It's just not my vibe. No, no. I mean, I loved Halloween as a kid. Like, it's just, I'm 24. I will say I don't like Halloween.

You're saying that to a 35-year-old man. But you have kids, though. That's different. I was like this before the kids. There's nothing to do with it. Like, I feel like once I have kids, like maybe I would dress up and go trick-or-treating with them or something. This is an obscene.

Where am I going to go to get dressed up? A bar? Oh, no, absolutely not. I didn't go anywhere. I got drunk in my house and I was Mario to myself, dog. I respect the hell out of that. I love that. That's a great time about it.

I love that you had a great time doing that. Nigna, be fun. I don't like, why are you saying? If we all dress up as something, I will consider it. But it's got to be like a whole group thing. What day of the week is Halloween on? A Sunday. Sunday.

We could do it November 1st. dress up for recording. Okay. I think that would be fun. Big T, you get dressed up every day in a costume. Your costume just happens to be either all Tennessee Volunteers gear. That's not a costume, that's a lifestyle. Are all Atlanta Braves gear.

You live your life in a costume. I mean, this isn't a costume. This is my life. You should get dressed up as a Georgia fan as a joke for Halloween. No, I would never do that. As a joke. You literally couldn't pay me to do that. $100.

Nope. I'm sure we could pay you. you what's your price positive it's Tyler Barron money at a minimum I mean that's so much lower

than I was anticipating well that's that's a four I mean you guys don't even play on Halloween weekend yeah we're off we got to get ready for Kentucky

that's your bye week I did see that scroll across my timeline yesterday Kentucky is like five and oh or four and oh six and oh they're pretty good oh holy shit

they're playing Georgia this week though they're going to smacked. We'll see. They have the best defense of all time. Allegedly. It really, you should watch Georgia play like this week.

I'm going to. I just, I mean, really should. The defenses I have running through my head right now. It's like that state, like 99s and like that kind of shit. That 20, come on, that 2012 Alabama defense is probably right

there with them. And then some of those you mentioned, but this defense is like legitimately. Some of these colleges teams have like three or four Hall of Famers on that team. The Miami one is, yeah, that's the Ed Reed and all them. I think they had Ed Reed, Sean Taylor, Jonathan Vilma, and maybe Vince Wilford all on the same team. But I think like the numbers like that this Georgia defense they're putting up is right

there with any of those. Like they're scary. I feel like, I'm a check for them. You make me want to watch Georgia. You make me want to watch Georgia. Who did they play this week? Kentucky. And watch, watch Jordan Davis.

I think he's like 94. he's a monster. Got you. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to watch Kentucky in Georgia this Saturday. Billy? I had a feeling that, you know,

or dress up like, I'm dressed up like Mario. And then watch, and then watch UT at night. Like, you know what I did? Hold on. I'm going to let you cook, Billy.

Hold on. You know what else I did, Big T? Have you ever been to Buckees? Have you ever been to Buckees? It's a dream of mine to go to Buckees. I've, my parents just went.

There's one in Georgia now, and they were going to Florida, and they stopped. there. It's a dream of mine. I wanted to go for so long. So for those that don't know, Buckees is like the crim de la creme of gas stations. It's so fucking clean in that. The food is delicious. It's massive. It's so big. It's just, it's just a great experience. Buckees is fire, bro. Like, it's the only place I will take a public boo-boo in. But it's not, and like, the shit they have in there is, like, they have delicious barbecue from what I understand. It's, it's unreal. The barbecue is

amazing. Everything is just top-notch. Like I said, it's the only place I will take a public boo-bo-win. So I went to Buckees, and they had this full onesie beaver suit. I got the beaver suit, man. Hell yeah. I would dress up as the Buckees-Beaver. If you can get me a Buckees' beaver suit. I will send you to Bucky Beaver suit, bro. If you can get me that, I'll wear it. Done. All right, Billy, go ahead, man. I'm sorry. I was just going to say, I think that older college football devens is we think are better because we know how the pros turned out for a lot of the players so we have name that's also fair so like modern defenses we can't sort of compare them almost and i with the rules the way they are today and

the offenses that they're going against i think it's much tougher to play defense today and even now we the best defense is like the 2012 Alabama defense that was like eight years ago and that's why we can only rationalize it yeah but it was also a different style of football right when you talk about the defenses that we're talking about yeah where it was really you had to like play ball like what bothers me about the game nowadays don't sound like a old head popping off but like when we was growing up receivers had to be tough because you had to go across the middle now going across the middle is not a fear it doesn't nobody cares about it anymore because defenders are protecting their their playability for the next week right it's not a thing anymore

so the way we measure defenses back then is different than we measure it now now like we're we measure them, like, with efficiency, how efficient are they? And especially with these spread offenses and stuff, it's just, so when you talk about, like, measuring up to some of those defenses, number-wise, you might be right, but, like, it's just a different brand of ball. Maybe I'm just getting older, and that might be it, but. That would explain why you hate fun offense. Also that year, Johnny Mansell beat Alabama.

If they put up over 20 points on a real, like, if they put up over 20 on Alabama, I'll shut up for Alabama. So let's say Georgia or Alabama, if they scored three touchdowns. I can't speak for Georgia. I haven't seen them yet. After this weekend, when I watch them in my Mario suit, I'm definitely going to give you a more. Okay.

Georgia's defense way better than Alabama's. I was going to say, Alabama just gave up what? Alabama isn't a great defense. Oh, see, I didn't even know that then. Okay, so bad. All right, if they put up 20 against a real defense, what you would consider a real defense? Georgia is the best defense they'll play by far.

If they put up 20, I'll shut up much. Okay. That's fair. Oh, shut up. That's fair. all right we got a bet we got to bet Aaron will shut up I doubt that

I highly doubt that Aaron you'll figure out a way to weasley way out of that one um exorcisms exorcisms ghosts or no ghosts okay elaborate so like we should categorize them right because a ghosts are demons ghosts

well spirits there's I think it's one of those things where it's like a ghost can be a demon but not all or a demon can be a ghost, but not all ghosts or demons. Yeah, and then there's poltergeist, which are noisy ghosts. So I think when we think of, uh, when you think a ghost in terms of modern culture and, you know, movies that are made, uh, we think about a poltergeist, a ghost that's going around being noisy.

I think it actually means noisy ghost, um, is, is like the definition of the word. So like a ghost that'll float around a house causing havoc. That's a poltergeist, but I don't think that all ghosts are poltergeist. I do that I think that ghost is just a word that, covers any sort of undead spirit that's out there. So when you have an exorcism, that would be a demon. That would actually be not even a poltergeist. That would be like actually Satan possessing someone who's living.

So an evil spirit of it, is it an evil spirit of a dead person? Or is it an evil spirit of a devil when you talk about exorcism? So it's so evil spirits are conjuring. of Lucifer that inhabit live bodies that's confusing yeah so it's like we were talking earlier about the body being the medium billy right

or the vessel yep so if somehow there's an evil spirit that takes your body over and turns you into like a living manifestation of that evil spirit then the way that we've been told to get rid of that is through an exorcism right so I time out real quick I just got to clarify for it Are these evil spirits autonomous

or do they need a host? Is it like venom? I think they're autonomous in my opinion. Got you. Billy? I feel like yeah, ghosts don't need a body. But they still exist

without a body, but they're more productive if they have a body. They can do more things that we can see if they have a body. I could sometimes imagine, like, a ghost just sort of influencing a person. Whispering like into the year? Like, like just intrusive thoughts might be ghosts. Mm-hmm.

But to get rid of it, let's talk exorcism. So exorcism also definitely has a religious connotation to it, right? Yeah. I mean, I think it's just what they, how they dealt with mentally ill people back in the day. They just have a priest to yell prayers at them. Throw holy water on them. Yeah. And then if it burns, that means that it's a demon that's inside, right?

Yeah. But that's probably just them being mad that they're getting hit with water. Or they're just someone having a seizure. Yeah. They have rabies. They're afraid of water. Leaches didn't work. Let's try this.

Didn't we learn that leeches actually might work for certain things? For certain things? Well, definitely, yeah. For like infections, like localized infections? They put mackets in people's, uh, wounds to eat the infected flesh. I don't want that. I never want that. I think they found that in like the civil war that the met putting maggots in people's deep wounds actually helped. I think at

that point it was just whatever is around like let's yeah let's if somebody dies in like an like next to an acorn tree. They're like if you use the top of the acorn to plug the wound that's good for it. They just like they took what was around them because they didn't really know we didn't really know shit about medicine until like what 200 years ago really 300 years ago that's what be killing me about niggins nowadays would be like Western medicine is is dude like like you know how shit life was before Western medicine for medicine in general like modern medicine life expectancy was low my jeez like like 19 years old was old 20 years old was like old yeah i'm very i'm very thankful for that yeah

Yeah, me too. But, Billy, to answer your question, I don't believe in exorcises. I don't think that those work. I think you're right when you say that it was like mentally ill people. And people go, oh, it's a demon inside them. Let's have the priests scream at them, you know? Also, I was just thinking, like a lot of cultures think that people who have like schizophrenia or hear voices in their heads, depending on your culture's sort of attitude towards it depends on how people view it. So, for example, like, I think it's in India, they think the, like, schizophrenic voices are actually their ancestors talking to them.

And usually the voices are kinder and provide better in, like, but in like Western medicine, in American Europe, like, when people are hearing voices, they think it's like evil. Yeah. That's interesting. So it's, it's all about like the mindset of, of your society as a whole. It can sometimes make the voices be more positive. Yeah. That's wild. wow and what did you say where was this uh i'm going to look it up specifically but basically some

people like some cultures think that there's certain people who if they start hearing voices they're like oh you're like the the soothsayer who can hear your ancestors like that's so cool and positive like awa from amazon yeah there's off although that that might be a almost just a bad just as bad of a way to look at it because then you have somebody that has like an actual like a psychological problem that you're just like waving away. You're like, oh, you're lucky to have this. Yeah. And I think it's, no, it's a thousand percent not the best scenario.

But it's interesting that the psyche of a culture can influence the psychosis of a disease. Like that's that's wild to think about. Yeah. I could, I could see that being 100% true. I don't know if it is or not. I'm trusting Billy's So it's called cultural schizophrenia in that hallucinatory voices are shaped by local culture. So it depends on the cultural context on voices that determines how the voices express themselves.

So like the voices being positive or negative. Okay. The work by anthropologists who work on psychiatric illnesses teaches that these illnesses shift in small but important. ways in different social worlds psychiatric scientists tend not to look at cultural variations someone should because it's important and it can teach us something about

blah blah blah this is the Stanford write up on this like phenomenon so in the United States the voices are harsher and in African India they're more benign I wonder if that influences the effect of the disease

Because a lot of the times Yeah, because a lot of times here When the shit is associated with schizophrenia Is like suicide And people want to kill themselves And there's voices telling them to kill themselves Or other people Whereas if there's voices

I don't want to make fun To somebody else's mental health But like there's voices like saying To do positive things I don't know Or just like other thoughts Yeah They're just like you know

Have a great day today Like you're doing fine Yeah I mean, earlier this episode, you were giving Kobe credit for kind of pushing you. Like, you were like hearing. Yeah. Like, that was your environmental influence is. Yeah, yeah.

Your voice was Kobe Bryant. Other people, not as lucky. It's funny, but it's fucked up, but it's funny. But it's true, though. It's, wow, that's so fascinating to me. I would like to read more. Send that to the group, my G. This is a question of like what happens to you after you die that I really, really wish Yahoo answers

was still around for because I'm sure that they would have some absolute fire takes on that website. I'm so pissed off that they shut it down. So I had to do the second best, which was just go to Reddit and see what Reddit was saying what happens to you after you die. It's a hot take Yahoo Answers top tier. Oh, Yahoo Answers was just a ridiculous place. Bodybuilding forum.

Bodybuilding. It would have an amazing. Billy, can you look that up? Well, I'm going to read some of the some of the Reddit answers to what happens. after you die, but I would like very much to hear what the bodybuilding forums had to say about it. They've had some great discourse on the vaccine. They have, yeah. Amazing discourse.

I'm sure. So this actually turned into a pretty viral Reddit thread six years ago when people asked other people to share their death experiences. So not even necessarily near death experiences, but there are a lot of people walking around out there that have actually died and then were brought back to life. You know, your heart can stop temporarily. You can cease all bodily functions temporarily. then you get resuscitated.

And so this first person said that their world became soft and foggy. Everything faded to black. Next thing, I remember opening my eyes and hearing a doctor say, we got them back. It was a really peaceful feeling more than anything. That's fire. Yeah, I'd be able to-

We got them back. Yep. This person said, I collapsed at a work meeting in February 2014, had no pulse or cardiac rhythm for about five minutes. My last memory was from about an hour prior to the incident. My next memory was from two days later. when I emerged from a medically induced coma.

I regained consciousness. And I regain consciousness a half a day before my brain started recording new memories. So I kept repeating the same three questions for hours on end. Eventually, my wife and friends started making up better answers because they hated seeing the fear on my face when they explained what actually happened. So a lot of people are saying like just complete and total amnesia. But there are also some people that have reported dying. and they see, you know, what we talk about with the light at the end of the tunnel. They see the world kind of fading.

They see light calling to them. They go towards the light and they have memories of relatives or somebody that they think that they love. Maybe not a person that you recognize, but maybe just like a warm, loving sound saying, I'll see you later or it's not your time yet. And then they come back into reality afterwards. But most people have just reported just complete. and total amnesia like they go to sleep but there are no dreams that happened to them

after they pass i don't know if you guys know anyone that's that's died and and came back oh i actually do yeah jesus no uh he's a family friend who uh also jesus no it's i forget what he said he went to cardiac arrest when he's dead for like a couple seconds like medically said that he sort of like saw a light but also saw his own body on the operating table and then he gets all weird about it. It doesn't say anything else. Okay. Sounds like hiding something. So that that's the out of body experience. That's another thing that's frequently reported is people that that die. And then I remember I read one. story about a guy that died from a drug overdose. He was in an ambulance and he remembers seeing

like seeing his body, seeing the EMTs working on him, gets taken a hospital. He wakes up a couple days later and he describes vividly the appearance of one of the EMTs that was working on him while he was dead while his heart was stopped in the ambulance and that was actually one of the people that was working on him. Now it's a possibility that he was like fading in and out and that he opened his eyes which he doesn't remember and he could like describe the person that was working on him at the time. And that's where it came from. But out of body experience is a pretty common thing. But then what happens? You just, like, if you have an out of body experience, you just continue looking at your body as it's dead, as it's been embalmed or as it's,

you know, as you're cremated. And then where, where do you have to look? Do you, are you focused on your body? Can you look at other places? Are you floating around in the sky? Because that could be where people started to believe in ghosts if you have an out of body experience. And you're just kind of hanging out looking at the world around you and then you know people get the feeling that maybe that's what happens your entire for the rest of your existence after you're dead is you're able to see

stuff billy are you looking at the bodybuilding forms right now what do we have this guy's telling a story about how he failed a bench press max alone and the bar was over his neck and he and a guardian angel ghost helped lift the bar off him all right this is this is the shit that

wanted from the body building before but yes all right i'm i'm in so as long as if you're working out and you pass out then you have like you're you have a spotter ghost spotter yeah and he was like it may have just he thinks it may have been a hallucination because the bar was choking him out but he swears that someone lifted the bar off him to help him yeah they probably did someone you're bro like a person no but he was alone yeah um i have a question If let's say you're guaranteed you're going to be dead for five minutes, but I guarantee that you're coming back. Would you rather see heaven or hell? Hell. What? I mean, you said that like so matter of factly. I don't think that's that easy. I think that's a

pretty interesting. I'm confused. So why you would want to see the good place? Why would that be the option? Make you happy. And you're like hopefully working towards something. But I'm coming back. Yeah, that's the heroin argument. Like, Like you're doing heroin for five minutes and then you're chasing that high the rest of your life. You probably do a lot of bad things to get it. And now you're going to end up in hell for eternity. That's an interesting point. Yeah.

On the straight and narrow. My logic was, my logic was, let me see as bad as it gets, right? Let me see the worst shit, right? Or what if it's, what if it's fire actually? Not literally, but like, what if it's dope down there? Like, what if it's, what if it's fun? Like, what if it's, then I'm like, you know what I'm like, fuck the other place. I don't know.

I just want to see the worst it could get. before I commit to, like, let's say the Jesus thing is real, right? But before I be all fucking Jesus is knocking on the niggins' doors and shit, before I do all that, let me make sure this is something I want to commit to. Like, let me check out the other spot before. But when you come back, you'd be scared. And if you see heaven, I would imagine that if you see heaven, you come back to life, you live the rest of your life being, like, happier, knowing that after you die,

like you've got, you've got a sequel, you know? You've got someone to look forward to. Wouldn't that be skating pretty close to one of the seven deadly sins? Like if you're if you're so prideful about where you're going, could that not send you to the other place? I don't know if that's pride though. It could. No, if you're walking around like you're better than everybody else. If you're guaranteed to go, yeah.

Yeah. But I don't know. I feel like it would be the rest of your life for some people might just be more peaceful because you eliminate one of the big fears that we have, which is what happens after we die. I think I have so the way I would approach it was it's like I approach anything I don't have expectations of you know I have preconceived notions but I don't expect anything of anybody when I meet them right so that way I'm never disappointed so if I go to if I die and I go to heaven and I choose heaven first like the expectation that's my bar for when I die the bar bar is high right but if bar is low when I die and let's say I I definitely don't want to do this

that, I'll just do good. And then when I get there, it's going to be that much better because I've seen the bad place. Because everybody in heaven hasn't seen the bad place, right? They can't. They don't know the other side. So at least I've seen the other side to we're like, yeah, we're in the right spot. I just feel like it's way my options better. I also don't know if I believe in hell. I definitely don't believe in either one, but hypothetical. Like I grew up like going to Catholic school and obviously heaven and hell were a big part of that. don't I think hell and big tea you can argue with me on this I think hell is a marketing tactic

it's it's talked about is that I don't think that necessarily means it's not real in the hell episode we dipped into that it was like easy that's how they sold it to like the germanic chiefs who believed in like their thor gods because they're like well thor says that you can get out of hell technically but our hell is permanent so it's a better to try to not get into permanent hell because if you're wrong you could work out of thor's hell yeah like okay then I agree with you guys um yeah yeah yeah hell like I don't know I think purgatory is more sounds more real than hell does just hanging out for a while like pergatory sounds like ghosts pretty much pergatory sounds like what we're in right now living and breathing day today

yeah some people think that it is yeah which I wouldn't be I'm not opposed to that argument but But I think having, if you believe in God and you, you know, believe that there is an afterlife, it's one of those things again where it's like, how good is God where he's giving you the option to, like, go burn for eternity type of thing? But also at the same time, like, what's Hitler up to right now? That's my other. Like, it's not like Hitler's in heaven. Unless he said he's sorry before he die. Yeah, we don't know.

Yeah. So we should also probably talk a little bit about the spirit molecule, DMT, which I think has a lot to do with some of the reported near-death experiences are when people do actually die. Your body, your brain releases the chemical DMT, which they call the spirit molecule, but it's your body's natural reaction to dying, which we've synthesized and you're able to take and get high off of.

That, to me, feels like we're flying pretty close to the sun. If you're like, I want to feel like I'm dying from a drug, but in a good way. I've never done DMT. I know people that have that some people say it's like it'll change your life. Other people say it's not that big of a deal. But that could also be where a lot of these descriptions of either out of body experiences or the light at the end of the tunnel, that could be the release of DMT into your brain, which makes you see these things. And then you come back because you get brought back to life through modern medicine. I don't know if anybody here has a DMT story or knows anybody that has a DMT.

story but that from from my conversations that's kind of what I get from it I got a hot take okay so let's say if you take DMT recreationally it depletes your body's ability to produce it naturally and then

if you take it recreationally when you die you don't get it that's that would suck yeah I mean it's not it's not the craziest thing to think that's what happens with dopamine yeah like if like if if if DMT is

the body's evolutionary way of easing you into death. And then during life, you decided to OD on the shit. And that your body can't produce. That was, that was, that was just, now it's just horrifying. That sucks. Yeah. Anybody have any other DMT takes? Any DMT stories?

My man's, I don't know if I've mentioned this on a podcast yet, but my man is Neil Brendan. So he is trying to come, he has convinced me to do ayahuasca with him. And that's like the long form of DMT. DMT is like the short. DMT lasts like I think like 20, 30 minutes. Ayahuasca lasts like three hours or six hours anywhere in between that rain. But it's the same chemical, I believe.

He was an atheist, not like a, you know, picketing atheist where he's, you know, doing all, like banging against religion like that. He just didn't believe. But he took ayahuasca and this. He's done it multiple times and he told me, he said he went out in public. He says that he believes in a God now, which is, that's powerful shit. Like, I, like, because like if you're,

nowadays, if you're an atheist, you've done, well, you should have, but he's very sharp. He's sharp as shit and he's done his due diligence. He understands, you know, his life and his worldview. And he's 40 plus years old, almost 50 years old. And he, to have something that, like foundational of a belief to be changed with the influence of a chemical is wild.

Yeah, that would be crazy if Arian went on this trip and then came back like a diehard Christian. Put a cross on my chain and shit, that would fire, right? Yeah, evangelical. Like you won't stop until you convert everybody else that you talk to. And then I'll be conservative and everything. I kind of hope that happens. That would be quite a turn.

That would be a great story. line to follow. That would be funny and shit, though. When are you planning on doing this? He's in New York right now doing a show unacceptable, which is dope. Everybody should check it out. I think when he gets back in November, I believe. So I'm going to take this time in October to cleanse my body.

Because when you do it, you have to kind of cleanse your body of like all the toxins and all that stuff. When he's back in November, I'm going to set it up. And probably in November, December, I'm probably going to get it in. Yeah, keep us posted on that one. I will do that. I love it.

Aryan Big Tea form a conservative alliance after. I would love nothing more in the world. And then we're just like spending the whole show being like, stop, guys. Yeah, start a new podcast just to two of you. But then Big Tea does it. Then Big Tea does it and Big Tea becomes a super lib. And then that would have a break in a lot of it. It'd be a good movie Friday.

And then Big Tea starts coming and dressed. like a hippie. You know, Aaron, I wanted to ask you about this. So obviously growing up playing a lot of football, there's a large element, there's a large element to religion. It's a funny thing, funny thing to say. There's a large element of religion when it comes to football in particular, more so than any other sport.

It's kind of, it's an own thing. You never hear about, well, I guess sometimes you do hear about basketball teams occasionally doing, you know, pregame prayers or things like that. But in football, there's always like a big pregame prayer. There's a big post-game prayer. It's a very common thing to have, you know, a heavy religious influence on the sport. Was that something that you kind of experienced growing up? And what was your read on that?

Oh, yeah, for sure. Like, I know the Our Father prayer, my heart. And it's because, and literally we said it before every game. And every team did the Our Father who are in heaven. And I don't even, like, it's weird that I know that, especially with my worldview. But it's weirder because I didn't grow up Christmas. Christian. I grew up Muslim. And so my parents ever had an issue with it because they were really staunch on the fact that they didn't want to influence our opinion about religion. They were like, this is what we believe in. We'll give you a foundation of what we believe in, but like go find your truth. And that was, I love them for that. And so they allowed us to experience different religions. Like I went to, I went to Catholic Church. I went to Christian Church. I went to mosques. I did it all. And so growing up and playing football, it was heavily influenced by Christianity, heavily.

Everybody was Christian. And all the prayers were Christian. All the coaches would push it on us. And I don't know how it is now, but that's how it was when I was growing up. And as you go up through the ranks, your people respect your beliefs more and more. Like when you get to the NFL, like, that shit's done. But like in college, we had a team chaplain. And we had a team chaplain in NFL, but it was more like, yo, if you fuck with it, come fuck with it.

But if not, like, don't worry about it. But in college, it was really, like, heavily influenced. Like, we had to go to church as a team. Like, I remember we had to go to church. And I was like, I'm not going to church with you all. And it was like, you have to. I'm like, why are you making me go to church? This is weird.

But what I remember about it was how influenced by religion, everybody in the sport was. And so it was almost like a part of the sport in a weird way that I can't pin as to why. Like maybe Southern football had an influence. I have no idea the reasons as to why, but it was so influential in how. I was going to say I do think that's part of football,

obviously, in the South is way bigger than it is anywhere else. And that's where religion is the biggest. So I think that probably does have something to do with it. I remember my high school coach, oh, sorry, Coley, our high school coach, I remember one game, he always, we always prayed before games, but he one time was like, I don't remember if a parent had complained or something, but he goes, you know, if they want to fire me for doing this, then they can do it. Let's all bow our heads. And I was like, what a thing to say before we're about to go out there. Defiant prayer, yeah. Yeah, I feel like the praying has a lot to do with the fact that, like, you guys didn't die playing. It makes a lot of sense, actually. The violence, yeah, the violence that's inherent in the sport after the game's over.

We survived. Yeah, thank you, God. So where I'd be telling people, like, imagine going to work and both sides of the office, there was the ambulance because there's a high probability that somebody's going to need it. Like, shit is wild to think about. And the PTSD that I have from that shit is very real. It's very real. Yeah. That is, it's crazy to put in perspective.

perspective like that, like walking into your, your office job, like you're a real estate salesperson. And yeah, there's like a surgeon that's on staff. One person that is getting carried out of the office. Yeah. Somebody's going to need this shit, though. Somebody. It's wow. I remember vividly, go ahead.

I was going to say, did you ever get the opportunity to give a worried crowd, a thumbs up to make sure they knew you were okay? No, no, no, no. The most I got, so I was always taught never lay on the ground. I was just fucking dumb. But when you're hurt, like, never lay on the ground. Like, don't let doctors carry you off. Like, but when I played against Miami, 2015, I tore my Achilles.

And, like, there are partial tears where people can, like, walk on it. But I couldn't, like, your foot just goes. It just, you can't walk on it. And so, like, I had to, my guys had to, like, carry me out of the field. And so the closest I got was. I was so distraught because leading up to that, like that was the best shape I had ever been in. And I had tore my growing before that, that training camp.

And I was just, I was, like, distraught. Like, I was fucking, like, emotionally done. Like, I was just, I was sick of it. Like, I had just been through it, through the ringer, man. And so I was just ball and tears. Like, when I'm getting carted off, I didn't give a fuck about the thumbs up. I was getting carted off and I was just fucking bawling. Because, like, I knew, I knew what that meant.

I knew my. time where Houston was done. And I knew, you know, I was 29. I was like running backs don't, especially coming off on Achilles there, like, nobody likes to take shit. So I thought like I was the end of my career. And so I was like to have it taken from you like that was some like routine as route running that I did. It was wild. I did have a homie though, um, who's, uh, his name Enki Johnson, um, who he's in college. You, you probably, yeah, you know a big team. I got assigned Inkey Johnson mini helmet on my desk. Yeah. So Inkey for those that know, he's like one of the most influential people in my life went to, went to college with him.

He had this injury where his whole left arm, he can't use his right arm. His right arm, he can't use his right arm. And he got Carter off the field. And it's wild like seeing the shit on movies and shit because when you see it happened to like somebody that you really love. And that was the same same signing class. So like 04 class, we're like really tight. We have a big group chat with everybody.

So it's like to see somebody actually go through it and see what it does say family and see it's kind of like so to see it like in movies and shit it's like yeah you know what I mean like it's a real thing yeah not to bring I'm sorry I just brought everybody down man I'm sorry y'all should anybody that doesn't know inky Johnson story though should go on YouTube and listen to him speak it's he's very very inspiration he's turned it around he's so he's such a powerful human being in general like he just one of those rare human beings that you come across where you're like yo like I'm I have lived i'm going to live a better life because i came across him and he's that for all of us him billy it looked like someone's on your mind you ever been carded off billy actually luckily there was so back when i played i was a huge like asshole in middle school football yeah i'd i was like a deep tackle and no like so i so i'd like go for these huge hits and i'd not knocked out like a couple kids not only in football but in lacrosse too and they would get carried off on stretchers and I knew in my head I was like one day karma's going to get me and I'm going to get carried out the field never happened so you haven't received your comeuppance

yet nope moral of the story is injure other people so you don't get injured yourself kind of it'll be hit though exactly yeah I would I think every player should just have have a cart ready to take them off the field after every series. Not for injury or anything, just like you're tired. Have your guy drive out there on a golf cart take you off so you don't have to walk. That's just me, but that's probably the mentality of why I'll never be a professional football player. Like a bullpen pitcher, you know, getting driven out there. Let's talk about ghosts again real quick.

Some of the most haunted places. What are the most famous ghosts of all time? Well, there was one... Casper? Yeah. Got to be Casper. And the NBA has a haunted hotel outside of Oklahoma City. And I wanted to know if the NFL also had a haunted hotel.

Where is it? Oklahoma City, where there is very much not a professional football team. So I don't think you would have stayed there. And I think in Milwaukee also might have one. But the OKC1 for sure, it's been a very much. written about even in like the new york times uh it is known to be haunted for road players when they visit okay c was there nothing like that in the nfl nah not that i heard of everybody there's not like one hotel that i guess everybody just picks whatever because they got like

business partnerships with like hilton or whatever case maybe so they kind of stay wherever yeah well there's one in in Milwaukee too yeah yeah i've stayed in that one And it is weird. It's a very creepy place. But I think that there's, I didn't experience anything like abnormal while I was there. Wait, wasn't there some player that said that he fucked a ghost in one of those hotels? Wasn't I run our test? Yeah.

I think there are a couple people that have claimed that they fuck ghosts in haunted hotels. I think they were just hammered. I think, yeah. That's such an odd thing to say, dog. I've made love to a metaphysical being. I would fuck a ghost. I stayed. That's not the safest sex to have.

Yeah, it's probably great. Not going to get pregnant. Yeah, it happened. The one run our test claim said he did it at the same hotel in Oklahoma City. Okay. The ghosts were all over me.

The ghosts were all over me. I just accepted it. They touched me all over the place. I'm taking one of the ghosts to court for touching me in the wrong places. It's satirical. It has to be satirical. have you heard run our test yeah but i'm saying like bro what i forgot about do you know it was a huge ghost guy dan ackroyd really oh yeah dan acroyd loves wasn't he the one from ghost buses yeah yes yeah um but he's all in on go he's all in on uh abductions too like he's a big

we need to get dan i i know this is an easy task but We need to get Tan Aykroyd on this show. I would love to talk about ghosts with him. It's the Fister Hotel in Milwaukee, the one that's allegedly haunted. And a lot of players don't want to stay there. So when the team goes to Milwaukee, they ask to get a separate hotel because they're afraid of staying in that one. So the story is that it's Charles Fister that haunts the hotel. It was built in 1893.

And apparently Bryce Harper, Brandon Phillips, Giancarlo Stanton have all seen the ghost in the Fister Hotel. Gwen Stefani said that while she hasn't seen a ghost herself, one of her sons experienced a ghost. I think that might have been at the Fister Hotel also. Machine Gun Kelly said that he got a missed, he saw a ghost in a hotel room. These are all kind of unreliable narrative. Yeah, I'm saying that loud. So I found this article, which is pretty interesting about in Scientific American. So Scientific American used to have competitions among the.

scientists to prove that ghosts were real. So in 1920s, Scientific American announced a high-stakes international contest to find scientific proof of ghosts. The competition offered $5,000 and it pitted top scientists of the day against wildly popular psychic mediums. The contest also escalated a growing feud between two famous friends, renowned magician and escape artist Harry Houdini, and Sherlock's home's creator Arthur Conan Doyle. The magazine's interest in the afterlife was not so much an anomaly.

but a product of the time. The U.S. and Europe were reeling from enormous numbers of deaths in the Great War in the 1918 influenza pandemic. To their family and friends, the spirit of the newly departed seemed to be appearing everywhere in parlor seances with mediums and at kitchen tables through store-bought Ouija boards. There was this desperation, this collective yearning to know there was an existence after death, says David Jayer, whose book The Witch of Lime Street chronicled the period. In parallel to the supernatural fascination, these years were filled with breakneck technological innovation. Electricity and radio were making what was previously unimaginable possible. Instant illumination in voices from afar peering out of thin air. The science and technology of the time all seemed very magical to people, Jair said.

There was such a thin line between what is scientific miracle and what is supernatural miracle. So cross-stick's communication or spiritualism did not seem entirely unreasonable. In unlikely turn, Conan Doyle, a trained man. medical doctor as well as the author behind a famously rational detective had become one of the highest profile proponents of spiritualism on either side of the Atlantic. He was convinced that, among other things, he had been able to communicate with his dead son. He even toured the US in early 1920s to lecture on the topic. On the debunking side was Houdini. The magician and Conan Doyle had briefly been friends, but then the writer tried to arrange for Houdini to receive a message from his dead mother

via medium. The illusionists saw that the act was a ruse, however, and he easily spotted trickery by other mediums as well, such as the use of a wire to move a distant object. He was unhappy with Conan Doyle and condemned the work of mediums as racket, Jare says, defraiding the bereaved. Scientific American regularly covered spiritualism as an interest of science. Many well-respected scientists, including renowned physicist Oliver Lodge, a magazine contributor, were vocal defenders of the practice's legitimacy. This article is way longer than I thought. out it was. While in the U.S., Conan Doyle's contact the Scientific American publisher Orson Munn and suggested that instead of covering psychic work

as an ongoing debate, the magazine ought to take an official stance on it. Munn agreed. You want to just read the entire article, Billy? Sure. I thought I was going to get this. Okay. Summarize it. Basically, they proved, so Turner Doyle got pissed off. The contest promised to you, use the lay scientific tools to ascertain once for all whether there were true conduits to the spiritual world. This equipment included induction coils, galvanometers, electroscopes, etc., with the purpose

of testing electrical condition of the mediums at the moment when the phenomena are produced, others to prove the presence or absence of material objects. The magazine explained in the March 1923 issue. The psychic tests initially performed in the magazine's library got off to a slow and rocky start. Many of Conan Doyle's most revered mediums refused to appear in public competition. Contestants who did show were quickly dismissed by the judges as tricksters. I never saw such an awkward work in my life, Houdini noted after one of the early sessions. And so it went, and fits and false apparation starts for more than a year.

The news began to emerge about a medium in Boston who did not take money for her seances, and who seemed to have no particular motive for being a conduit. The woman Mina Crandon was married to a respected surgeon and so loath publicly, unlike other mediums the magazine encountered, that she received a pseudonym, Marjorie. So an editor in some of the contests set off to Cranon's residence on Lime Street, Boston for preliminary visits. Bells rang in the dark, and Victrola played without explanation. The voice of the medium's dead brother conversed with observers. But Marjorie could not convince Houdini, who called her all fraud.

The scientific American community eventually reached the same conclusion after observing nearly 100 seances. Okay, so no ghosts. No ghosts. No ghosts. No ghosts were found. I got it. They did it again in 1941. there was a there was a um thank you billy by the way there was a documentary um by a guy by the

name of james randy james randy was a i believe he was a magician and he got tired of people getting conned by either magicians um mediums and um uh who those people who psychics yeah psychics all those people and especially like uh who are the religious people who would like, I can talk to you. Oh, that's a medium. Yeah. So anyway, so he, he set out and he would like actively prove them to be fraud. And he would like go and show people how they did what they did. And so much so is he had like an open bet. He's like if anybody's like a medium, if anybody can do like real magic, he's like, I have a million dollar bet that you can do a day. You say you just have to pass these, these tests. And like, and nobody ever, nobody ever did.

Yeah. Which is, which is really fire actually. Yeah. I mean, it makes sense. sense like put your money where your mouth is if you think that you can actually talk to ghosts like that john edwards crossing over guy the guy that just makes money based off you know tricking people into believing that he can talk to their dead relatives because he has you know his cameramen go out there before the show do interviews like oh what are you hoping that'll talk about like he gets he's very good at cold readings that's what it is cold readings yeah cold readings he's really good at and there are things that you can pick up about people based off of what they're wearing their appearance the questions they ask you know all the above and so then you can tell them that you're actually talking to a relative

and some people are really good at at tricking people into believing that it's true well i think the the the sad part about it is that they prey on vulnerable people and so these are people who just lost loved ones these are people who just lost relatives and like they're just looking for anything to cling on to to have some kind of semblance of a memory of the person that they has so like the cold readings are it's really cold-hearted is they'll just anybody with an m i'm hearing m m or n n n n and they just they just do that shit like did he did you have a special object that he kept it like silly shit like that really like touches people like it was the the funniest of the world is watching cold readings gone wrong oh my god just like type in cold readings

gone wrong and it's like it's the funniest shit in the world i would feel so awkward watching that It's so awkward. It's fun watching it because you see how full of shit that they are. Yeah. There was one, I'm going to watch it, but there was one dude was like he was talking to like a group of people from Ireland. And he's like, I feel there's anybody in O'Neill and or O'Brien or something like this. He was like, yes, and they get the whole room. She was hilarious.

Is anybody here like beer, anyone, anyone at all? I'm looking at a list of people that have fucked ghost. This is very important. Keshah fucked a ghost, she said. She wrote a song about fucking the ghost. She told Jimmy Kimmel that she went to the bone zone with the ghost. So Keshah's fucked a ghost. Lucy Lou has fucked a ghost.

She said it was bliss. I felt everything. I climaxed. And then he floated away. Good for Lucy Lou. And then she said it's almost like what might have happened to Mary. That's how it felt. something came down touched me

and now it watches over me all right lucy lu fucked a ghost it's not that far fetch big t what do you think man about fucking ghosts yeah mary fucked the ghost that's what lucy lu said okay i wasn't we uh the braves just won three nothing

we're up two one in the n lDS i wasn't completely paying attention but um yeah no mary did not uh do that uh den acroyd more about den acroyd holy shit this is actually the big gets news of the entire podcast today he used to fuck Mama Cass

Dan Aykroyd the singer from the Mamas and the Pappas Wait is she the one with the tuna fish sandwich? Ham sandwich, yeah she choked on a ham sandwich and died All the leaves are brown In the sky is gray California dreaming All the leaves are all the leaves are brown

In the sky is gray Dan Aykroy's used to date her It's a fire song It's on my play this white soul it's a great song and Dan Aykroyd said that he was in bed with her and a male ghost cuddled up to him in bed and he was down for it

so Dan Aykroyd had a threesome with Mama Cass and a male ghost there you go it's a fire playlist bro fellas is it gay to fuck a male ghost well I've heard Aykroyd tell the story and he basically said it was just like a big old snuggle session

with the male ghost. Oh, that's, I would cuddle a ghost, absolutely. Yeah, Little Spoon. I'm not cuddling than a ghost. I would 100%. They've got to be great cuddlers. So you would cuddle with a male ghost. A ghost.

I don't know. Being a heterosexual man. Do I, I don't know. What is the ghost? What is it? Is it like a spirit? Is it misty? Or is it just like a dude next to me?

I've never seen the ghost. But I assume if it can. and cuddle, it is not transparent and it is a solid object. Okay, yeah, if it was a solid object, maybe not, but just like the feeling of the ghost engulfing

you and like giving you a big hug probably feels good. Oh, Avery will. It could be a spirit and it could be trying to choke the life at you. That's true. I would not want to get killed by a ghost, but I would cuddle with one. Yeah, I wouldn't cuddle with the ghosts in general. I don't know if I was a dude or a female ghost.

What, there's this thing was looking up that we were going to do a show on that was big amongst the My Little Pony community and it's so there's a bunch of people online who are trying to create adult imaginary friends so they're trying to basically uh they want to create people in their minds that act on their own uh so that they can have companions so for example it and they use like Buddhist scripture and like old I remember me talking about this Fancy right of course yeah I forget the name of it though

well the people who like my little pony are bronies right right bronies but basically they try basically they try to make themselves go schizophrenic so that they have a being that talks to them and converses with them throughout their day to day life that they create in their head it becomes so real that they have a hallucination so the bronies like try to make my little pony characters like be real in their brains and them interact with them and then another community

is trying to basically make an imaginary like schizophrenic character in their head that they can have sex with the internet was a bad idea yeah so what humans are so bored what you're describing is it's actually kind of interesting because it's like if i just get enough people to believe in something that we're all making up together and we all know that we're making up together will it become real for everybody religion yeah okay yeah yeah cool so good point i was going to look at comics um like superheroes yeah like yeah batman's not real but we all know all the details of batman's life we know the worst superhero of all time though he's not even a superhero he's just he's just a rich dude doesn't have superpowers i i i'm not

like Batman and Captain American both are just the worst This shit Batman doesn't even eat pussy Was it one of you guys who said that Batman's only superpower is white privilege Did I I don't think I said that

Where did I hear that makes sense Where I made it up Probably on the internet Your internet and Twitter Yeah All right I think we've done a good job Getting to the bottom of ghosts Topomancy

What's that That's when they try to involves The creation of an imagine Sentient Companion That abide by their within their host's mind that either their hosts use for companionship or to have sex with. But everybody believes in this thing that's that they made up just for the purpose of making it up to believe in. I think there's a little bit of a difference there between like a superhero

who's invented, you know, to tell stories about, uh, so that people can read it in a book and you can look at drawings of it. And then this, which is just people agreeing to make up a character that they can believe in because they made it up together no it's not even that it's just so that one person can have the fun and joy of like interacting with this character that they have like actually made a thing in their brain if you could be a ghost who would be the first thing you would do that's a good question sneak in some places and try to find out the truth you try to fuck run our test wouldn't you

well I am a ghost and I did fuck Lucy Lou so I get to count that right I think I would just fly were like yeah if they can fly it's fine like just spend a whole day chilling

I'd like sneak into Area 51 come cool places that's a good idea I feel like that'd be the worst place if there's a place that truly and catch ghosts. That's it. That's the one.

Yeah, that's the spot where they have the ghost. Like, that's, I'm saying. Well, they probably have entities that can detect ghosts. That's what I mean. Yeah, like next to the real guards or the ghost guards. They probably got a whole collection of ghosts down there that they've caught. Yeah, it's far away. Denver Airport.

Denver Airport, go underground there. See what's going on there. Yeah. That'll be more. It'd be a waste of a trip. Thanks, shit, no. I would really like to. sneak into Alex Jones's bathroom and watch him take a shit for the comedy.

I bet he takes the loudest craps. He's probably screaming while he does it. I don't know. I don't think he does, man. I think because he probably eats, he probably doesn't eat that well, right? You think he craps discreetly, Alex Jones? When you, when you eat, when you eat like shit, not shit, but when you eat horribly,

like your poops aren't very full. So it's like, it's probably just like little droplets. It's not like, I think. As someone who eats poorly, I'm, pushing logs from I think he just gets on the toilet and turns a shade of red

that does not exist in nature and just screams just yells almost like he's willing the poop to come out of his butthole. Do you take probiotics? I don't take anything. I'm into how are you having

you have full clean oh yeah and you don't eat well. Not like I feel like you eat well you eat clean like I definitely like closer to a trash person than you do but yeah, I still have normal shifts.

That's interesting. Wow. Yeah, I was thinking like two scenarios. I was thinking either A, I would follow John Daly around all day. Like, it would just be a lot of fun, just to see what he's doing. And then why did I just lose the other one?

That'll come back to me. All right. It's pretty fun. I think following anybody around all day just to kind of be nosy would be fun to do. Oh, and I'd want to be, in that locker room halftime after Alabama was down to Texas A&M, I'd want to see Nick Saban yell.

That would be fun. Actually, you know what I would do? This is, I think this is a good one. I would follow Kyrie Irving around. And I would make my, I would make my presence known to a point where he could not dispute that there was a ghost in the room with him. And then make him have to talk to the media about how he saw a ghost. And everyone's like, there goes Kyrie again.

What a, what a weirdo this guy is. And meanwhile, yeah, it fucking happened. you should you should just like write on all his walls like get vaccinated yeah yeah I would absolutely fuck with no and I would tell him nobody will believe you he's gaslighting yeah I already dealing with a nobody will believe you reality I don't know if that would really shake him all that much yeah what's this what's the what's the update is he still he's still holding that still holding out for now I don't I actually don't know they've They've been talking to Kevin Durant about what the future of the team's going to be.

They just made a rule that he's going to be allowed to practice with the team in Brooklyn, but he's still not allowed to, he would not be allowed to play. I saw they had a practice the other day. They're like practice in the park thing. Like they just had like a fan event at the Brooklyn Bridge. And like he was practicing, but he was wearing a mask. I don't know if that was mandated or not, but nobody else was. Didn't he tweet, didn't he tweet like, stop being afraid, take your mask off?

Yeah. And then quickly, like 45 minutes later, I think someone was like, hey, people are interpreting this poorly. And then he was like, no, I meant like society's mask and something like that. Yeah. You thought you thought you could come to Kyrie. Like you used. We wear the man. You thought you could come to Kyrie with like a little bit of like you were taking him literal. And Kyrie's like, no, no, no. You are not thinking deep enough for me, my friend. Yeah. Anyone listening to Kyrie and taking like what he's. saying at face value still in 2021 that's on you uh all right that's good ghost talk i feel like this is a good natural endpoint for ghost talk and we should do we should do some voicemails from people now i do have a wiji board do we want to let the wiji board answer a voicemail it's fire you got a wegie board right here there's actually a voicemail that i picked out about spirituality that it can answer okay um so i love how it comes into like a monopoly box like it's just like You have some regular, like, ages 12 and over. Yeah, you can't be 11 talking to the afterlife.

Oh, wait, I've got the thing. Oh, did y'all ever play growing up? Lotties and Feather Stiff as a board? He brought a Ouija board that doesn't have a Ouija board, huh? There's no Ouija board in here. Wow. It's just the Ouija. How I believe it's taunted.

I've got the Ouija, but no board. How about, A, Big T, can you write down yes and no? and then yeah just write down the words yes and no on on this Ouija board

maybe write it on the top on the top of the box so that the thing can glide across it a little bit more easily so no like flip it over give the ghost a nice service to word there you go just write yes and no

I mean this is going to you want any viscosity with the Ouija okay and then we'll test it out what's a good first question, Billy, what do you, give me a yes or no question to ask this ghost. Could be literally anything. Billy, think of a fuck or anything.

There's another pen right there. Is Scott Peterson guilty? Yeah. That's a great question. Convicted doesn't mean guilty. Right. So we're asking if he's. guilty. I know.

Because all we know about Scott Peterson right now is what we've learned through the rule of man. I like how we assume if there's a ghost in the room it's now all knowing. Like it knows everything. Well, it should be able to get the answer fast. It should.

Talk to other ghosts that was there. Talk to, like, yo, you was in a, you handle that Peterson thing, right? What's Mrs. Peterson's name? It's terrible that we know the killer or not the victim. Lacey. Lacey Make she rest in peace. Okay, Big T.

Put your hands on this? No, I'm not doing that. Come on, Big T. Billy, can you do it? Such a non-futting person. Why are you not fun? Not doing it. Is that sacrilegious?

Yes. All right, we're going to ask. We're going to find out. You got to get more hands on deck. I think it's just two people at a time, right? No. All right. Avery.

Mad Dog, come over here. Mattie, Avery. We're going to figure this out. So everybody put one hand on. and you're supposed to put it on I think apply like a small amount don't push down don't push down but just have

wait why don't we use the Ouija board in the picture we don't have a Ouija board it didn't come in the box the box was empty he's saying the literal picture on the box but it's the this is better this is better okay

you got a shit Ouija board okay we can edit some of this out, make it look like we're somewhat competent. I don't think that's what people want. I love that they have the patent on it. Yeah, because it's real. I invented a machine that talks to ghosts.

It costs $8. You got to move the Coors can's out of the way. Okay. You see these bullshit capitalist ghost area and it's sickening. I see them. Everybody's in it on it, man. It's ridiculous.

Okay. All right. So don't push down. So I just hold my finger about it? Just hold your finger, like put a little bit of a tiny bit of pressure. All right. Ghost. Is Scott Peterson the real killer of Lacey Peterson? Are you guys moving it?

No. Are you guys doing anything to move it? No. I don't even lie. I'm not doing anything. It's actually like not even dumb enough to be funny. Like, it's just dumb. I'm not doing it.

anything to move it. Oh, I'm not doing anything. We'll just have our hands on it. It's going. Look, I'm moving my finger. It's going. Yeah, we know. No, look it.

I'm raising it up. It's going towards the yes. Billy Bushness. Shocking that out of any direction, it could have moved. It moved in one of the exact two it needed to also. Yeah, that's because it's a ghost talking to us. Where was it going to go?

It could have moved. It could have moved any of 360 degrees and it went precisely. The ghost is really talking to us right now. that's a yes it's on the yes Scott Peterson guilty I don't need to see anything else thank God we confirmed that

with the plastic heart on the box with the undead if I was involved in it went differently that means it wasn't a ghost all right well Scott Peterson is guilty as charge banging my gavel let be written let be known

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I wish we had the real Ouija board, though. That would be sick. Okay, ready? You're... Hi, I'm Anne-Marie from H-Town. I love the podcast. You're actually the first podcast that I've ever listened to religiously. And on that note, I'm a mental health nurse,

and I've recently been fascinated with this topic, so I'd love to hear macrodose things. perspective and force y'all to have a deep, somewhat uncomfortable and vulnerable conversation. So the question is, what does spirituality mean to you? To what extent does it play a role in your life? And if it's not existent, what gives you the meaning and fulfillment that spirituality gives to other people? Yeah, so anyways, y'all are very handsome.

Mad Dog, you are gorgeous, and I hope you have fun having this conversation. Take care. All right. Thank you. That's a deep question. Yeah. I would like to be called gorgeous instead of handsome. I'm in the Maddie camp. I want to be gorgeous. Okay. Everyone start calling us gorgeous now. No, no, no, no. Call them handsome. Me and Maddie are gorgeous.

We've got to just draw the line there. Who wants to go first? What was the tail end of that question? I didn't really, I couldn't catch it. So basically. What does spirituality mean to you? And if you're not spiritual, what gives you the fulfillment in your life that other people get from spirituality? which would fall more onto you, Arian

Yeah, I'll take it So spirituality to me Is what And I don't mean it disrespectfully But it's what people View as their connectivity To their Belief system in a deity

Right? So like Because if you Everybody has a different definition Of what they define as God Or whatever the case may be And so spirituality is how they connect to that. And I think the joy that people get from it and stuff is a very real thing,

like the communal aspect and all that. I think how I derive that without it is through like love, love. It's the people that are here with me, the people who have passed that love me and how I love them. And it's really cherishing the relationships that I have. I have in honoring those relationships to the best of my ability, it fulfills me and also loving myself and finding out who I am and finding out the things that I love, the things that I like, the things that fascinate me, and really honoring that curiosity really fulfills me as a human being. It's a good answer. It's a very good answer. I don't know

if anyone's going to be able to top that. It's so stupid. No. No, it's good. Good. I liked it. It's love, man. Billy? Something that's fascinated me about they did like MRI scans and fMRI scans on super religious people who, you know, really believe and truly practice all the practices of whichever religion they practiced. And they have extremely their mental health is extremely well-constructural. in that they don't they have very low instances of depression anxiety and other mental illnesses and I always found that fascinating and honestly sort of the fact that that super religious people had such mental constructs because of their belief system and the way their brain works

in relation to how they perceive the world that was something that was probably has kind of no relationship to the question, but I found just fascinating that basically it's a belief system that allows them to sort of, you know, avoid very, not modern problems, but problems that a lot of people struggle with in depression, anxiety, and other sorts of stuff. All right. I think for me, spirituality is mostly just about making yourself, not in a self-deprecating way necessarily, but as small as possible, shrinking your ego as small as possible to realize that you're a part of so many other things that are way, way bigger than you that are way, way bigger than you'll ever be. And I think if you get a good enough perspective, it can be calming to know, like, to accept the fact that you're just a blip in a much, much, much bigger picture. And I think it improves people's mood and behavior when they realize the reality of that.

And I think it improves the world around them once they have that right. So for me, I guess spirituality is more about perspective. But I would never say like I'm a spiritual person. But in the way of looking at spirituality as being like what is your belief system that connects you to the rest of the world, I think that's the healthiest perspective, in my opinion, that you can have. That's pretty good too, man. I think you might have got me. Anyone else?

I was just going to say, like for me, I equate. that word with religion, like personally. So when people say, you know, I'm not religious, but I'm spiritual, I don't necessarily know what they mean when they say that because that's not how I feel about it. So to me, it's just like religion, but also like how that relates to your own life and how that makes you think about the world and yourself. What denomination are you? So I grew up going to a Baptist church. I told you about the crazy Baptist church we went to. Um, my parents now go to a Methodist church. I've, I've done several. I don't know that I'd necessarily like claim any particular one. I don't you're a swinger. Yeah, not to not I don't,

all the denominations they get into some really weird like stuff. Uh, I think they're all pretty much fine. They put you in the boxes sometimes. Yeah, like the independent southern fundamental baptists those I will say I'm definitely not that. Um, the Methodists do some weird stuff though. Like I just, uh, I'm down with the core tenants. What's some weird stuff that somebody does? So the Methodist Church is like kind of similar to the Catholic Church and a lot of the ways they go about things. Like the ceremonial aspects of church, I guess.

Like it's fairly similar to a Catholic service, which is interesting to me. But that's what my dad grew up doing. So that's the church they go to now. Baptist is like, when you think of church that you don't like, it's probably Baptist Church. I don't know how better to put that. Like,

Baptist Church is pretty fundamental. Like, the church I went to as a kid only played hymns. Like, they talked down about playing, like, contemporary Christian music. Some fire and brimstone. Like, they thought if you played the drums, like, you'd go to hell. That's true. Yeah. I don't want my son playing the drums.

So, just stuff like that. But there's all, like, little intricacies. All the instruments you could pick. And, like, you're, you're playing. playing the one where you literally can't think if you're in the same house as somebody playing the drums. That's fair.

Ah, my son likes the drums, right? So for Christmas, he don't listen to this podcast so I can spoil it. But for Christmas, I'm giving one of them electric drums where it's just, you'll just hear that. Yeah. You hear it like that. So I'm getting them one of them.

You can just rock out all day. I like that. I like that a lot. Yeah. I'm not the first person. In fact, I'm sure I've heard it from somebody else. But it sounds to me, Big T, like you look at Christianity like a buffet,

you can go and you can pick pick the stuff that you like from different aspects of it you've got the meat carving station over here you're just asking about denominations and I think most I'm not saying like in a derogatory way most of the differences in denominations

are like not really that important so like it's kind of just what you prefer in my opinion I mean they're pretty important or else there wouldn't be different denominations but it's it's not like essential to like salvation mostly like most of the things most of the beliefs are pretty much in line with each other it's just it's minor stuff on a splitting hairs yeah it's not real they all

believe jesus is the son of god you both you get salvation through jesus as long as those core tenets are the same like i don't really care what and don't play drums yeah i'm i'm not down with that i like I like me a good, a good Christian music with some drums in it. Okay. The problem with Christian music is now, though, this is a problem I've had for a long time. You turn on a Christian radio station. They've played the same seven songs since 2003. It's out of control.

We need new Christian music. If anybody out there, like, have you ever heard of La Cray? I love La Cray. Okay. He has a song with Tori Kelly, one of my favorite songs. What's that, what's that called? find you or something something like that very good song

but yeah more more you asked and you were like yeah i don't like him i know of him like but yeah yeah but i've never heard like a whole song but if you turn on a christian radio station they've played the same song since i was a kid it's out of control do you like uh do you like kirk franklin uh yeah he's good like yeah news boys news boys yeah D.C. Charge of Clay, D.C. Talk. So, D.C. Talk is newsboys, right? They just changed the name, I think. I think. Okay. Anybody else have anything on spirituality or you want to go to the next one? Exercise. Exercise. Yep. Yeah, I mean, I've said it before. I just think, I think spirituality, I have said many times that I grew up going to Catholic school. And I think being away from that for a while now, spirituality to me is more of like a security.

it's or how I see it is more of like a security blanket it's like a sense like what you guys are saying it's like a sense of like safety and a sense of like oh there's something um leading me somewhere who knows to what but um yeah it's more of a sense of like security and safety and um i think people use spirituality spirituality and religion as that as in a sense of um this is all worth something finding meaning Yeah. D.C. Talk is not newsboys. They just had one of the same guys. Got it. Okay.

Okay. Are we ready for the next? Or anyone else? Well, yeah, I was going to say it's kind of like how you process the, like, nature and the universe and your place within it. Mm-hmm. Yep. I like it. I like that question. All right.

Ready? No. Hey, boys. And that dog, y'all are incredibly handsome. This is Adam from a. Wisconsin. You know, I've been thinking I want to get a tattoo, but I'm not sure what I should get. I was thinking maybe a slice of pizza or something stupid like that. Or you guys can help me pick out one. Maybe it could be like a mythical creature Billy comes up with or I don't know. Yeah. Hopefully you guys use me in the pod. Thanks, boys. And girl. Peace. Good question. Can I go first? He gets a tattoo of Big T. So I heard a phrase recently

And I was like If I was to ever get a tattoo This would be it Rebellion against tyranny is obedience to God I want Jesus I want that I want that tattoo So if you're it's aggressive Yeah I love it though

What tyranny are you rebelling against Think of you? I saw that You've been checking the mask mandates brother I saw yeah you look around I know where I know where you got that I heard it from a friend I don't know where it came from Fortune no it was trending

with this like do you see how this new civil war was trending that was one of the tagline I think you just made that up look it up yeah you've made a lot of shit up I'm not well it's a quote from Benjamin Franklin so yeah you're just it was trending with that civil war though

the the word the trends with rebellion against I mean I'm down with it I'm down obedience to God. The real quote is rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God. There's a lot, there's a lot

of $20 t-shirts with this phrase on it. I guess, I might settle for that. Tyrant can be such a subjective thing because you can just label whatever you don't like as being tyranny. And you can label whatever you want as obedience to God. These are some cool shirts.

These are I'm going to get a shirt. I'll say, if I lived in the time of William Wallace and if Joe Biden declared premonauta where he get him and Nancy Pelosi get to fuck your wife on the night of your wedding, I'm

all in on what Big T's saying right now. Sign me up. I'm going to be proud boy. I thought you were describing the tattoo for this guy. Oh, no, this guy needs to get a giant frog tattoo. Okay, yeah, this is what I want. Yeah. What kind of frog? No, the one, just like the one

that we talked about. You've got to have sunglasses. on sunglasses on the frog just African bullfrog with sunglasses that's a good tattoo that's fire and then send a pick that's cap I don't think he's actually going to get this shit but that'd be fire I could tell by this guy's voice

he was kind of real yeah he seems into it there's sort of uneasiness in his voice I mean I would get an African bullfrog tattoo with sunglasses on that's a very chill tattoo yeah but then you can always clip this part of the podcast and be like why did you get this tattoo and be like, that's kind of cool. Yeah.

If this guy actually gets it, please send it to us and tag us and I will repost it everywhere. Yeah. I'm at the point in my tattoo life where I don't even give the fuck what I get anymore. I just want to fill up the arm. So maybe he's there with it because that's where I'm at. Ari, can you get an African bulldog with sunglasses on them, please? I'm not going to put no fucking frog on my mom.

It's got to be at least somewhat like, it's got a match. Say it what I'm saying? I have King Tett on this arm and like the eye of Raw which is a dragon Was Raw a dragon? No there was a son dog No

What There does he have an animal head Or am I imagining that? They had serpents There were a lot of serpents Yeah they're serpins Like The as well get into the white dragon

versus Asian dragon Hey you brought it up You brought it up All right what's next mad dog Okay so this is our last one Get that tattoo though Yep This is Ben from Portland

I've got a question that has done a great job of killing time at work How much did you think Danny DeVito Waze Talking early sunny You know maybe 2010 2012

DeVito I've had guesses from 170 to 300 That's less than your take That's no ways 160 pounds If Danny DeVito weighed 300 pounds, he couldn't walk. Yeah, that would be weird.

Okay, so hold on. Nobody Googled it yet. Yeah, Billy don't Google it. I looked up as height. Yeah, he's short. Googled it and then tell us all who is the closest. Was he 510 or 5 foot tall? 410.

410. I'm going with 178. I think Billy's right. Billy said it so surely right off the bat and I think I'm finding myself agreeing with. 150 to 160 pounds he's got an ass though I'm going 170's kind of thick though yeah but but the height thing that's where you get I I'm pretty decent I like the 160 I'm going 170 just just because I like the 160 though but I'm going to say 178 the 75 we'll do 155 176 I'm saying 165 you just fucking one dollar me prices right

yeah oh my fucking I mean if the goal here is to get closest I might my guess my guess was going to be, I was going to say like $1.90. I'm going to say $1.80. I'm thinking, I'm imagining myself scooping up Danny DeVito. He's a very scupable human. I think I could do it easily. I think so I was watching, okay, I don't know what the political correct term is for little people. If that, I don't know if that's what they enjoy to be called or not. But I remember I was watching this circle. Are you seen the circle on Netflix? I haven't seen it yet. Anyway,

there was one joint name Roxana and she was a person like that and when they when she met one of the dudes like he he wanted to like pick her up and I don't think that they like that I think that would be really no they don't so well I don't want to speak for for every little person out there but I do know that we have Zah in the office and Zah has been very public about like the things that he doesn't mind and things that he does doesn't ever want to be picked up by a stranger and the thing that he hates the most is being patted on the head. He said that happens a shocking amount of time.

Like people will see him and his head is down at hand level for a lot of people and they'll like just tap him on the head and he's like, no, I want to kill you when you do that. That makes sense though. What a weird thing to do to pet another human? What the fuck? I think I could screw. I think Danny DeVito and I weigh about the same.

I'm thinking. Don't know off the Zah point. Like Zah is as dense as like a dying son. Like, he's sneaky, the heaviest guy we have. Yeah, he's, so Zaza's upper body is, uh, is completely like, uh, it's the proportions and weight and dimensions of somebody that was taller, but his legs are really short. And so from the waist up, I think is where you carry generally most of your mass,

right? So I think, yeah, I don't know, I'm going to go one, yeah, 165 sounds about right for, for Danny. I think he's a little lighter than everyone's because the dimensions is what gets everybody. Actually, now, you know what? That's why I'm saying 155. I'm thinking heavier now.

I'm thinking heavier now because yeah, yeah, I think I'm going to go like 195. No, because he's 411. Yeah, but he's... He was just 410. You added a whole inch. That's a lot more weight. But the thing is like, like people are sneak,

sneaky, hide weight the different size they are. He's got some shoulders. He's got, he's got some meat on those bones. Avery, do you know how much he weighs? All right. There's some conflicting numbers, but the one I see the most is they go in kilograms. It's 88 kilograms, which is 194 pounds. No, fuck away.

I said 190 before it was cool before y'all talked about. No. That's all my price is right. Check the tape. Check the tape. PFT1 fair and square, dog. No, that's fake news. I think we all, we talked through it as a group.

Also, you went over. Okay, thank you. I had 180. That's pretty good, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Damn, 190. That's, he thick, he thick, big. Yeah, when I typed it in, the first thing that came up in, it's like an article from, no free ads. Anyways, it says he weighs around 67 KGs or 147 pounds.

Yeah, I told you, it's conflicting, but most of them say 88. So this one says it is obvious that the character is not. not the best friend of the gym. His physique alone is proof of this. Danny DeVito weighs 88 kilograms. That's a mean way to put it. You didn't have to say that. It's not right.

Didn't like that. This says 147 pounds. All right. I'm going to believe what Avery said because he said that we were right. Anyway. Confirmation buys. Definitely. All right, Mad Dog.

We got anything else? Are we doing underwear anymore? I think we paused that. We did pause that. I think we paused that. So that'll be it for this week's macrodosing. Also, Tyler put out his first post. Shut up.

Love him. New posts just dropped narrated for us. What is he wearing? So he looks like he's outside of the practice facility. He's throwing up a piece sign, and he's got the black macrodosing tea with just the generic logo. Yeah. Looks great. Beautiful.

So stay tuned in the near future. Hopefully we'll get a second macrodosing athlete in Hindon Hooker. starting quarterback of your Tennessee volunteers. He won't let us comment on it. There's no commenting allowed. I get it. He's ashamed of us. You can't comment on any of his posts.

Oh. Oh, okay. Oh, I take it back then. I take it back. I take it back. All right, cool. Well, tune in on Thursday. We're going to have a nanodosing episode, Chapter 2 Art of War.

Pick up your copy. We're going to do Chapter 2. I'm excited to get into this one. So that will come out Thursday morning And I think if Unless anybody has anything else to say I just found the video of the rock rapping Okay

So I'll just play it All right on her way out Are we allowed to play this? For sure or not Also I object to people being like holy shit The rock is on a rap song Have you guys not listened to the Fugis

Where the Rock does It doesn't matter that song There's an entire song That the Fugis put out in like the early 2000s with the rock on it let's not it's erasure

the rock has his own a rap song he has a new one that just came out that's not who are the just sent it to the group don't don't

don't say a lot of shit that's making you sound old I would say the Fugees yeah I don't know who the Fugis are not even a low

refugee all stars are you not old bro Lauren Hill Praz lest we forget Praz no idea who this is

Billy play why cleft john is obviously the other big name but like prize was there too oh no you don't know who laurah hill is that's a that's a cultural man got shit to do age bro i think i think it's a big t thing i think most people know yeah that's bro american hip-hop group formed in the early 1990s i wasn't even alive bro that's not a nigga i know urswin and five confunction like yeah that's not the same though it's exactly the same what you mean

if we played their biggest songs he would know them Like what kind of songs? Killing them softly? Oh, okay. Yeah. Killing me softly, sorry. Yeah, I just didn't know. Fugis.

Fugis. Okay. All right, well, that does it. The Big T's credit, Maron Hill has done a lot to make sure she does not stay as famous as she could be. That's true. Big T. Who is Chase McGrath? He is our kicker.

The word's spreading. He's getting around the locker room. Let's go. He's a good kicker. I'm telling you they give it. out bags, dog. They're just going into a lot. They are just spreading the word, and I love it.

That's hilarious. It's not my money. I don't give a shit. I will never, I will never, ever give money to a kicker, nigga. Come on. I was going to say. Fuck, Arian.

The niggas is not on a team, bro. The niggas just do they all. Did you not watch? Well, I shouldn't say, did you not watch? Because I know you didn't watch, but I mean, tech saying him beat Alabama, I could went on a kick. Don't care. The only kicker I really have ever.

liked was Shane Lackler. That is my fucking guy, bro. He was a punter. Oh, I'm sorry. Shane Lleckler. And then he's a kicker. Kicker punter. Same shit.

No, it's a different position. Special, huh? He punts kickers kick. The ball's on the ground for a kicker. Completely different in the same day and the same group. We all look alike to Aaron. They kick the ball. I am a pet megafee.

That's my guy. This is some of the, he would, he would throw. up on you if he heard you talking like this about his line of work. Well, I wouldn't care. He's one of the ones that I liked. He actually did do both, but he threw up on me? No, he was a kicker in college

in the night. They moved him to punter. Some fake news. Disgusting they practice too. Kickers, they're people. All right? Try winning a game without a kicker. Can't do it. Well, last week, we talked about that coach who never kicks in punts. Bro, you see that picture,

You see a picture of it was D.K. Matcalf and the kicker for the Seahawks. And he's like, we play the same sport. Like, that's what I'd be talking about. Like, sure, you're on the team. It's just, come on, come on, man. I think it's important. I respect your profession. Sure.

But, come on. Don't respect anything about it. At the beginning of this episode, Arrian said he still has a lot of, like, self-growing to do a lot of practices and kickers or, uh, you don't respect. A group of people. He's so hard. It's just like, no, like, like, like, so when my all season, like, any skill position off season is like, you have to, you have to, like, grind.

Like, and kickers is like, it's just, you just go out there and kick, bro. It's, it's not the same. A lot of kickers are jack now, though. That's, I think that's, that's, that's my choice. Yeah, it's by choice. And it's like an overcompensation thing. Yeah, it's not a requirement for the position. They get self-conscious because they're around a bunch of dudes in really good shape.

who act like Aryan and tell them you're not a real football player and they're like oh yeah let's see how big my arms can get and then they pretend

that that's like it's a qualification for them being athletic I think Sebastian Janikowski was one of the best athletes in the NFL for years because that dude was fat as shit

you know how athletic you have to be to be fat and out of shape and still be like a pro bowl kicker you have to have so much natural athleticism

but it's like you like you can be a great kicker like a great punter But it's like, you're not really playing ball, you know what I mean? It's true. I mean, I could be a hot take that nobody ever really says because they're on the squad, but it's like, you're not really playing ball, bro.

You're just kicking it. No, I mean, Aaron is 100% right. Aaron, do you know I was a kicker? I can see that. Yeah, that's actually like really mean. I tried out for the XFL. I didn't make it. Yeah.

You got cut. It's okay. Well, at least I'm not a kicker. They did me a favor. All right. Before arian slanders, my profession, my brethren, any further, we'll call it a day. This has been macrodosing. Thank you for listening.

We love you guys very much. And we will be back next week, also on Thursday, but then full episode next week. We'll see you then. Love you guys. I don't know. I don't know. Thank you.