Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Halloween ft. Eli Roth

Episode Date: October 27, 2022

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the crew welcomes on special guest Eli Roth (1:40:43) to talk everything from Halloween to some of his upcoming films. It's spooky season, so you'll get everything from the history of Halloween to everyones favorite candy. All of this and more on today's show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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Makes you feel great. And you can get 5% off when you use promo code Stool 5 at 3Ci.com. come must be 21 to purchase because it is psycho act check him out right now welcome back to macro dosing it is thursday october 27th and we've got eli roth on today's spooky show it's the halloween episode billy's loaded with facts gonna get into those in a second and then later on we got eli roth coming up oh and special special unannounced guest chris long will join us in a little bit as well it's absolute bullshit now you guys dressed up like we've seen said we were going to. We're all dressed up right now. You're the only one that said you were going

to do that. Seriously, play the tape back. We said, should we dress up on the Monday where you record, which is Halloween? And then you guys are like, no, Halloween is, the Halloween episode is Thursday. Let's dress up on Thursday. Yeah, I'm, I'm dressed up as, I'm going as PFT. I'm going, actually, you know what I'm doing right now? Hang on. I'm going as Mad Dog from two years ago on Halloween for Halloween right now. I don't know what you said. I for sure never said I was dressing up. I may have explicitly said I was not. Yeah, I can't see Big T being a dress-up guy. Yeah, you're a Tennessee fan. Not since like 2007. You dress up as Big T. That's no fun. Every single day you put on that costume when you come to work. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Bill, you look great. You're dressed up as a Scottish

Highlander. I'm a Highlander. How old? Scotland. What was it bad? I think some adults like go back into dressing up which I'll reserve my thoughts on but as a kid what is the cutoff like how old is too old to go trick or treating you can go trick or treating if you have like a younger sibling you can keep that up until I don't know it's when the party's 17 yeah 17 if you have a younger sibling that you're going with yeah when you start when you're like chasing girls that's when it stops so both of y'all agree that even at like 15 yeah that's crazy that's outrageous i think i stopped definitely before high school i would say i think i went in seventh grade no i don't need i think i think i went in middle school i think i think i went in

sixth grade which was elementary school and then middle school i think we had a halloween dance yeah and then you just told me 17 if you have like a younger sibling that you're taking yeah bro i'm taking that's different i might put out candy this year because it's a monday that's like the like i pay my own rent now, I can put out candy. Like, that's kind of big. It's, um, that's going to be tough because like in New York, you want, I try to be festive sometimes and I try to do the thing where I go to buy a bunch of candy. I'm ready for the little kids to come to my door and I'm ready to see costumes and stuff and to like, you know, get into the Halloween spirit. And then every single year, it's like, oh yeah, you live in an apartment. And so kids don't go door to your apartment. They do. They

absolutely do. There's a sign up. And actually, if you can. And get into one of those buildings, if you know someone who lives in one of the apartment buildings, there's a sign up list. And you get the most candy. Because then you, if you have a friend group that all live in different apartment buildings, you all hit the apartments, get the list of the exact floors and doors that sign up to be on that list. And then you just hit five apartment buildings. And you're making out like bandits with like with trash bags full of candy. So this is like when you were a kid, you would have organizational meetings. It was like you were planning. You were planning like a Navy SEAL operation. Oh, we absolutely. Optimizing which doors you would go to. Sometimes you're addressed up. High value targets. They've got, they've got Milky Way darks. We're going to ingress on their door at $600.

We also had to calculate the hours of trick or treating time. Like, I don't know if your building has it, but sometimes you can sign up for those sign up lists. And then they say, okay, the commenter household is giving out candy. But anyway.

We don't have that. So I just, you definitely do. Every building has it. I swear to God, the first, the first three. Halloween said I lived in New York. I went out, I bought the giant thing of candy. I was, I was going to be like, yeah, I'm going to be the cool neighbor that gives out, you know, like two handfuls of candy to every kid that comes by. And then maybe one kid came by each year. And then I just end up having a shitload of candy. Well, I have a little bit of a different living scenario, not an apartment building. So I'm going to be, I'm going to be handed out full candy bars. There were two, like, massive house was growing up that we would go to. There's one guy, rest of

piece, his name is the candy man. They actually named a street after him, the one that he lived on. He worked at one of the factories. I forget what candy they made, but he always had the king size bars. He was given out the best. And then she was my old math teacher, but her husband worked for Entemans. And she'd give out full boxes of donuts. Oh, that's dope. Yeah, the whole street was like mayhem because everybody knew that that was the Candyman Street. What a legend. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, they named the street after him. joke like really named the street after yeah that's just what the kids called no I'll send a picture

that is so good to be so good at Halloween that you get a street named after you yeah sick did they have kids yeah I found that the people with the best houses were with people without kids and they'd go extra hard and they like they didn't know the consequences of giving

kids that much candy so they'd like be handed out so much candy yeah I feel like you would be really good at Halloween PFT me or like giving out candy. I'm very generous. Yeah, generous. I just, I go double scoop two handfuls if I can. Yeah. Yeah, you get some looks from the parents like they don't need all that, please. I'm like, well, that's your problem. Yeah, I feel like you would be really good. I do. I also like to hand them apples that have tiny, tiny little cuts in them. And then I hand out like off brand sweet tart packages as well. Wait, what? No, I don't, no, I don't do that. I'm just saying like every year, there's a big scare.

There's been scared. Actually, anytime you see somebody on the news being like, yeah, They're handing out fentanyl and Halloween candy or anything like that. They're just trying to scare you into watching the news. They said this all the way back to like the 60s. And those stories run on October 18th before anyone has handed out anything for Halloween. Yeah, they go all the way back to like the 60s when neighbors used to like, oh, they're watching razor blades into the apples. So when you bite into them, you're going to cut that never happened. So later when we get into more of the facts, there's a whole socioeconomic reason behind those stories.

Actually kind of interesting. okay that's a good teaser billy yeah so when we get into it and there are i'm actually giving out fentanyl though so this year it's real i just realized that people actually i figured this out recently people actually do fentanyl like it's not no one some people do it on purpose yeah which is crazy yes i thought it was just like no they do on purpose no they do on purpose i read a very interesting article on somebody's substack i subscribed to a substack i subscribe to a substack for the first time yesterday they got me so good that's maybe the most liberal thing you've ever said there's actually tons you subscribe to a substack there's why is that liberal that's just

there are actually but that's just it just seems like a i don't know it was a joke just tell you tell you story i'm just curious why it was liberal no there's a group that is that is a predominantly left leaning no i don't think so it's actually having trouble right now because a lot of their they're they're deep they're having trouble with a lot of the super far right wing stuff that's being published there um but besides that there's actually a bunch of uh like bodybuilders who use substack they're all under this like bow tied ox bow tied bull they're like doing informational substacks and they're like pretty there's some pretty interesting dudes who have substack that aren't super left wing but these guys are telling you how to get jacked and make money it's like i haven't

gone there yet to like subscribe but i really want to because Some of these guys are, like, they're like, you've got to get on TRT at the age of 25, or you're screwed. Substack is like, it's only fans, but for words. Yeah. It's kind of cool. I just searched Substack on Twitter and I found one woman who said, I just got word that I have my first paid subscriber on Substack. They paid $70 for a year. If I subscribed to someone and found out that I was the only person paying for it and I paid them $70.

I'm out. I'd be upset with myself. What's that person's name? Courtney Shimbry Gray. Courtney Shimbary. I might sign up for her stuff. Author of The Maggot on Maple Street. Uh, no.

Mm-hmm. Sounds no. Immediately I can tell I'm not going to like her substack. So I, uh, yeah, I subscribe to this person's substack because they're writing an article about, um, how fentanyl gets into cocaine. And that's a really interesting topic because I've always wondered that, too, with all the accidental cocaine overdoses that we see. where it's fentanyl that's mixed in

and people end up going to the hospital or worse or dying. Yeah, there was a bunch of recently. Yeah, so there was an article in the Wall Street Journal a couple days ago about three people in New York that died, I think, on the same day from the same dealer.

It was like some sort of mail order, the same type that got Nick Kroll's cousin who was a co-founder of Twitter. Did you see that? Yeah, so what the article was, they dove into the trial into the delivery service. And in New York City, these people were using, they were just texting somebody.

And then somebody would show up at their apartment and then just give them Coke. And so they were like, hey, can you deliver this to me? And they showed up, got the Coke. And then a couple hours later, somebody let the Coke dealer know, like, hey, the package that you just got, it's got some fucked up stuff in it. You got to tell people that just bought it from you not to take it. So then the dealer, there's all these like phone records. The dealer started texting everybody that they just sold the Coke to, trying to call them, being like, hey, call me back, call me back, please call me back. And three people had died

from doing it. What they thought was just Coke. And it poses an interesting question in the article because I've always wondered, what's the purpose of putting fentanyl into Coke if you're a Coke dealer? It doesn't make any sense because it hits you, I guess fentanyl is a downer. So it would hit you in a way that just doesn't make you feel like you're doing cocaine. I'll make you feel really bad, even if you didn't have like an adverse medical reaction to it. it and it doesn't it would kill your users so it's killing your customers why would you put that in there so they tried to answer this question and what they came up with was um there's a surplus of fentanyl being produced like overseas in china yeah there's a lot of fentany that's just being made

and they sell a lot of it to drug dealers and uh drug dealers when they're putting just like putting the shit together sometimes they accidentally think that it's coke and they mix it with another batch thinking that they're just mixing coke together so we actually talked a lot about this on the drug smuggling episode uh when you were away in uh in china it's eat the way they smuggle uh china produces tons of medical um like pharmaceutical based drugs like stuff that's need to make other drugs and shipping from china is actually shipping drugs from china is actually very easy because only 5% of any of those shipping containers get inspected. And if they were to actually inspect as many containers as they could,

it would totally shut down the supply chain. So it's pretty easy to smuggle stuff from China. And the Chinese are just producing tons of fentanyl and selling it to the U.S. because they know that it's going to get through and it's going to get used and it's become very profitable. And the people who produce the fentanyl, It's a totally legal enterprise in China.

And there was like an interview with them. They said like, you know, if our fentanyl is being used in the U.S. illegally, like that's not our problem. Like marijuana is illegal in the U.S. Like that's why people are getting addicted. And then they sometimes cite the opium wars as like, like, why should like, you know, opioids have been used against us as a weapon. Why should we care if opioids are getting used recreationally in the U.S.

and killing people? Yeah. It's like a whole, it was a whole ordeal. But, yeah, the fentanyl product, and also it's easier to smuggle because, you know, like a pound of heroin has the equivalent dosage to like a very minuscule amount of fentanyl. Yep. Like, it's crazy. If there's, there's some photos online of the different types of fentanyl, car fentanyl, oxicon heroin comparatively to dosage. And it's like one grain of. of fentanyl is like an overdose level compared to like a whole big vial of heroin it's like super

scary so how so they the the drug dealer is just mixing it in because they think it's coke yeah and so it happens up the chain it happens usually the people that buy the fentanyl directly from china as they're preparing the coke to like be packaged they they put it into like a giant pile and sometimes one of the things that they add to that pile is accidentally fentanyl and then from that pile they separate out to smaller bags and then they ship that out that's what can happen sometimes otherwise it's like unlikely cross-contamination but um there's really no reason why a drug dealer it's it's usually not the person that sells you the coke they don't do that like the the drug dealer themselves um they don't mix the

fentanyl with the cocaine it's usually the person that's at least one if not two steps above them in the distribution process that does it well i mean it's hard to sympathize with the drug dealer but like imagine the anxiety attack that drug dealer was having yeah like i killed three people yeah i mean i know they're selling drugs but like yeah but they they weren't trying to kill anybody i mean in ozarks uh like the rival cartels were poisoning the others i think there's some of that too that's that's that's another possibility that yeah if they're trying to like hit somebody in the business if i was the cartel this isn't good for your business for your coke business i would start you know really trying to make sure that the coke's pure and like go down the chain figure that out yeah i agree

yeah if i was the cartel if i was the cartel i would go over to china and start asking some very difficult questions cartel if you're you know if you need a strategist uh my uh consulting fees are pretty high but I think you can I think you can pay them you want to consult for the cartel I'll consult for the cartel like you know I charge 10k an hour there you go 10,000 an hour yeah that's that's my price for consulting um hire billy but this is no this is why the economist was they were writing an article uh about like legalizing cocaine and they're like saying that Joe Biden should legalize cocaine and everyone was trolling them because like this very high steamed magazine uh the economist was

saying that basically Joe Biden should legalize cocaine to help get esteem with the left and then also solve a lot of the political crime violence south of the border and also create a market for clean cocaine that would prevent these overdoses. But like, you know, I wrote a rebuttal to it in a blog that never got posted because Nate never posted it. where I said basically it would end up with kids using street cocaine, which is probably laced because it's more acceptable to do cocaine. Like the legal market for marijuana has never gone away even though it's been legalized.

That's true. So what's going to happen is you're going to have people using cocaine rate like recreationally regularly because it's legal. And then it's going to be the trickle down effect. The kids like, oh, I want to do cocaine to be cool. It's legal. It's fine. And then the street cocaine still has the fentanyl in it and they die. What was the title of the blog in which you were talking about?

about kids doing cocaine. I was saying kids shouldn't do cocaine, Big T. Thank, okay, good. Oh, do you want to read it? Yeah, yeah. I think it's, I think it's still in, uh, still in, I like this, I like this segment too hot for the blog. Yeah, it's too high. Yeah, read it on here.

This is all the shit that, that they don't want you to read on Barstall sports. The economist wants to legalize cocaine. So, yeah, let's, let's get to Billy's, this is, yeah, real uncut shit. Uh, a little bit of fentanyl on it, maybe. These dudes, the economists really love cocaine. let me see I talked about how it would be going back to the time

No, just read the article Just read it This is a many words Okay, well basically there's quotation from the economist article Obviously some would find Legalization would defang the gangs Obviously some would find other revenues

With the lost cocaine profits would help curb their power to recruit By top end weapons and corrupt officials This would reduce drug-related violence everywhere But most of all the worst affected region in Latin America Cocaine were legal, more people would take it For some this would be a choice snorting a substance they know is unhealthy because it gives them pleasure, but cocaine is addictive. A pousity of research makes it hard to know how it compares with alcohol or tobacco's on

this score. More studies need is as we are greater efforts to treat addiction. This would be funded and then some by the money saved if the war will wound down. In private, many officials understand that the prohibition is not working anymore than it did. In Al Capone's Day, just now full legalization seems politically impossible. A few politicians want to be called soft on drugs, but proponents must keep pressing their case. The benefits, safer cocaine, safe for streets and greater political stability in the Americas far outweigh the costs. Well, it seems like the writers over there at the economists are trying to help buying gains and popularity in a last-ditch effort.

These dudes want to bring us back to the days where cocaine was legal back in the good old days. Cocaine was in everything. Headaches, cocaine. Toothake, cocaine. Drowsiness, cocaine. Then I put in an ad of Coca-Cola from 1908 when I did cocaine it. I really want to try some original recipe Coca-Cola.

Well, the Coca-leaf is like used all the time. for like for anti for uh i bet altitude sickness altitude sickness yeah i bet that coke hit oh i bet it did i bet that was a best in the eight ounce glass bottle too i mean imagine you're sitting like in atlanta like on a hot day and you should get a glass bottle of coke like from a coke guy who brings it in a box no you walk into the malt shop yeah and you sit down you're sweaty there's no air conditioning but somehow feel a little tired yeah yeah your day's going on a little bit too long you had a manual labor job your wife and 14 kids are yelling at you yeah your kids are probably with you they just got out of the out of the factory themselves you know they put in a long shift

yeah yeah the garment factory their little fingers are pricked with needles that would actually be hilarious i bet i bet it would be like all these little kids getting out they just made it like a 10,000 shirts at the haines company and instead of like hitting the bar for happy hour after work all the malt shops were just packed with like onto the soda fountain yeah like seven-year-old just walking in, putting their $2 down on the counter, be like, don't stop, don't let my glass get in. $2.2.2. $2.000, would get you.

They put that a dive. $75 coax. They overdose. You know, there's a place on the Upper East Side that still, like, puts the self or water and the syrup. I've heard it sucks, though. I bet it does. People on TikTok have gone there like, this is actually terrible.

Well, it sucks because the cocaine is in it. I bet it's great for Instagram. Yeah. I found it on TikTok. Well, you can buy, like, all the soda fountains. like that that goo that liquid that uh the syrup yeah i mean that's supposed to be like put into a machine yeah yeah is it actual coke or is it like a different type of off brand no it's the coca cola syrup yeah and they they pour the soda water and then they put that in there and mix it

yeah that original coke would have been real nice back to the blog coca cola wait hang on i want to talk more about how i want we should do i'm talking about Coca-Cola more in this blog i think frank the tank doing a soda review of original recipe Coke would be incredible. That would have a heart attack. Yeah, that he would go fucking nuts. Yeah, that'd be nuts. I mean, that would not be good. Craig Kimbril! Craig Kimbrough! What do you think Frank? Frank would probably stroke out within like 10 seconds of, what if he just chugged

an original recipe like heavy cocaine-laced Coca-Cola? His dying words would probably be, probably probably Buster only. Do you think, do you think there's, you know, there's honestly probably someone online. Charlie's dancing. There's probably someone like on the Silk Road or like on the dark web who's selling original. I was actually going to ask, do you think someone in America still has one somewhere from their great grandma or something?

Oh, wait, don't they, they have, I mean, I think it's like evaporated, but I think there is like an original, well, while we're looking for that, Coca-Cola, one of the great American brands was founded on the magic of the white powder from the cacao plant. These so-called intellectuals over the economists think that if we legalize cocaine, we would stabilize south of the border, generate tax revenue that will get us out of recession and prevent drug overdoses caused by laced drugs. I would never expect people who love cocaine could possibly generate such ingenious ideas to get a substance they love so much legalized.

They are literally sitting over there trying to get by and reelected while doing cocaine. And they're like, what if we get buying to legalize cocaine? He would definitely get reelected and we would get amazing cocaine. It's a no-brainer for everyone except family members will have to deal with addiction. But don't worry, that's just worth the cost of stocking the drug war and saving our economy. Also, no one has ever overdosed on just cocaine, right? They have. Yes.

Can't believe that didn't get posted. I think your bias is showing on that one, Billy. Really? Okay. We should legalize hit men while we get at it and tax them because they get the economic benefits. Yeah. Yeah. There you go.

Just legalize everything. I think maybe this country, maybe legalizing cocaine would solve a lot of problems that we have. No. I think it would solve more problems. Guess who? Uh, elaborate on that. Wait, wait, no, this is the part that.

People, no one wants to work right now. If you did cocaine, people would, like, work ethic off the charts. Uh, I'll believe that when I see it. Yeah, no, people would be. He said free basing it? We would have so many new businesses that started up and lasted like two days. That's, that's what the real upshot in the economy is. Yeah, that's notably good for the economy.

And people would be like, okay, all right, so, um, they're, blankets, but they're specifically made for dogs. They're dog-sized blankets because the blankets that I have at my house are way too big, and my little cute dog, it gets lost in these blankets. So I think that we should make small dog-sized blankets for my dog, and then we can name them after my dog, and all the blankets will have a picture of my dog because it's named after my dog, because I invented these blankets because my dog gets lost to the blankets. So we're doing a dog blanket company.

And then the next day, they wake up after getting their loan, they're like, oh, fuck. I don't really want to do this dog blanket idea anymore. Well, think about the seed money, the seed money, people would be like, this is an amazing idea. We're going to give them money. And then they're giving everyone money. And people who are giving out seed money are already in cocaine. Yes.

But now they get really good cocaine because it's illegal. No, they're the ones getting the good cocaine now. Well, no. They're the succession people. Yeah, but Nick Crowell, Nick Crowell's cousin who's like the head was like a super fintech guy. Well, Nick Crow was like a billionaire. Like that sort of proves to you like, yeah. Anybody even if you think you have the best guy who's like,

All street cocaine can get you cocaine that kills you. Yeah. Yeah, it's scary. Test your drugs. Test your drugs, please. If you choose to do drugs, test them. Or don't do them. Or just don't do them.

That's another good option there, Big T. Yeah, it would be interesting to see how the world would change, how the United States would change. Because I think a lot of people still wouldn't do cocaine, even if it was legal. I think some people would do cocaine recreationally once or twice a year. in a blue moon that normally don't do it but I don't necessarily think

that it's going to turn the streets into just like a bunch of zombies although it is have you guys ever run into somebody in public who's obviously

coaked out of their minds in the middle of a day in like the light of day I'm not talking about at a bar when you see somebody that's just like you know can't stop

bouncing their knee or whatever I mean over the course of a day when you just interact with somebody at like one o'clock in the afternoon that's high as shit off coke on a seven

Yeah, yeah, it's wild. It's just, it makes me feel like... Like during the work day. Uncomfortable, yeah, yeah, during the work day. I'm not saying, it's not anyone in this office that I'm talking about, but it's happened to me at past jobs that I've had. Really? And you feel like, for a second, you feel like you're the crazy person.

And then they leave and you, they walk out of the room and you just look around like, is anybody else just absorbing anything this guy's say? Anyways, it's happened to me like several times. It's just a wild situation. Honestly, the widespread use of Adderall in my generation, there's a lot of people who think cocaine is mid compared to Adderall. Yeah.

Oh, what? Yeah, seriously. Some people do because Adderall, it lasts longer. And it's usually better sourced. Well, yeah. But here's the last line of my blog. Close it out. Yeah, call me old fashion.

I don't want kids doing cocaine. And let's not pretend we don't really know how addicting cocaine is. It's as addicting as cocaine. It's just crazy that a barstool sports blogger is thinking of this while the economist is not. But whatever, think about how much economic growth the new rehab facilities needing to be built will bring. Why don't we start investing now? Yeah, that's the last one. Then I tried to put out a legalizing cocaine shirt. It's economical in the economist format, but that really caused an uproar. Sorry, hear that. I'm going to submit it for us again. I'm sorry to hear

that it caused it. Well, no, Nate's not going to publish it, man. Nate's going to text me. Nate hasn't showed up to work in a week after I've been asking to meet with him in person at work. All right, this is not going to turn into the Nate bitch party hour. You know what I was thinking about yesterday? Cut that. No. You know what I was thinking

about yesterday? Beats by Drey just fell off of the planet of the earth. Remember how big they were? No, they got bought by Apple. I know, but what I'm saying is like, everybody I know they like obviously made a shit ton of money but when I was in high school everybody wanted beats headphones now it's just like I don't see him anywhere. The only time I hear about beats headphones is when an athlete buys beats headphones for the whole team for the whole team or

for like a high school team or something like that and they're usually sponsored by beats headphones so they just give them all the headphones. Right. I think AirPods kind of just took over the whole 100% swagger jackers. Honestly you know when it stopped becoming cool there was a time when you could buy a new laptop for college. And if you bought that laptop, it automatically came with beats. And then beats became so widespread. They weren't cool. And they lost the exclusiveness. And then AirPods came out less bulky little things. No one, you know. And now everyone's wearing AirPods. And like even kids playing pickup basketball are like, so when I was playing pickup basketball over the summer, there'd just be like younger kids like high school kids. And they'd like be trying to play in the pickup

games and they just have an air pod in and I'm just like what the fuck like what if like I need to tell you where a screen's coming and you can't hear me because you have your like air pod in playing music but they listen to music they're listening to music while they're playing basketball I'll bet they're really good though I bet you're doing that you're probably the best player no no it's so widespread because they think they're cool and it's actually making them worse and it's just like do like what if like I don't want to be responsible if your 200 dollar air pod falls out of your ear and I step on it. Obviously, like, they were very successful, sold billions of dollars worth of headphones, but yeah, you just don't see them anymore at all. Because every college kid who got a new

MacBook got one. I remember when they came out with the beats wireless, and that changed the game for everybody. Yeah. And everybody needed them. What was the, you could tell everybody commercial? Oh, yeah. Is that with Kevin Garnett? I'm the man. I'm the man. That was with Colin Kaepernick. Colin Kaepernick, yeah. What was the S&L skit? What am I thinking? Yeah, there's an S&L scale. It was a good one. I know what you're talking about. I'm frozen caveman lawyer.

No, no. It was the, uh, I'm the man and it's like they, it's like a beats commercial. It's like, I'm the man and the guy's like walking. And then there's like a crowd angry at him. And then you realize that he's walking into like an abortion place.

And those are protesters for him. It is like, a girl's next to have like crying. And he's just like got the head. I would like, I would like to remake those commercials, but just in historical references. So it's like Lee Harvey Oswald walking downstairs at the Texas school book

Depository puts on the I'm the man I'm the man Paul Revere on the horse When they desegregated the schools Oh yeah In Alabama. That would be pretty cool That'd be sick Also remember that those were the first like when those came out people were like Nobody's ever going to pay $250 for a pair of headphones

Now you can't get a good pair of headphones for less than $250. Yeah, I'm looking at the prices right now. They really, they drop down. They're like 150 bucks, 100, 100 bucks. I kind of miss it when they were $250,300. Yep. I don't. Now the AirPods, the AirPods maxes are $600.

That's outrageous. Yeah, now Apple competes with themselves because they have those big ones now. The over the ear. I will say, someone who works here. has them and I tried them on one time. You can't hear a thing that's happening outside. It's crazy. It almost made me one of them.

That's kind of nice. I buy five pairs of $20 fake AirPods that are, yeah, at a time. That are basically the same quality as AirPods. And then if I lose them or break them, I don't care. Yeah. Because you know you're like, you know you're going to lose them. Counterpoint, I've had these for about, I'd say close to a year.

Yeah, that's ridiculous. I've had my AirPods for three years and I haven't lost them. Well, some people are better at others, but like Apple created a product that was disposable and you'd need to get new ones because they're so easy to misplace. Yeah, it's smart. Like, that's their new,

then they make different connectors so you have to buy new shit. I've got to figure out what I'm getting you guys. That was the Tim Cook model when, like, no actual innovation, just making people's lives more difficult. Buying chargers. Yeah, good for Europe for making everyone use the same charger. That is people who care about the people in the country.

Did you see the Apple news that came out today? The USBC? They're switching their phones over to USBC now. You're joking. But in Europe. Well, no, it's ever because they have to do it for everything. Oh, hell yet. They can't just, the EU said that they have to.

So they're just making all iPhones USBC. I'll tell you, they have great consumer protection laws. Which is at least like, because right now the Macs are USB. the phones are lightning iPads are lightning some of AirPods are lightning but the new AirPods are USBC I think

No I don't think so But like either way they're going back and forth Like just make it all one thing Yeah So they're going to be USBC In the near future is what we're here The next iPhones The next iPhones will

So like next year And then you know who really gets fucked over with all the changing of the charges and stuff is hotels. Hotels get, hotels get so screwed on there. You remember they, they bought all the alarm clocks

that had the old, like, the I home. Yeah, the I home system on it that fit the old school Apple iPhone and iPods. And then they change it up. And they bought all those for like all their rooms.

And then Apple changes up the charger like right after that. That charger was fat. That was a big plug in. And right now they're doing the same thing where they have different charges that you can have in rooms that fit this thing.

And now they're going to have to get all new RIP to the hotel industry. That's got to be loki. One of the worst jobs to have, I think, is working the front desk at a hotel. Oh, high key. Did anyone else see that? Did anyone else see that TikTok that went viral the other day about that? Oh, the guy flippling out. Yeah.

Yeah. There was like a girl who works at the front desk of a hotel who was recording like a male Karen, like going off on her. And he booked a like two queen's size bed room, didn't want to pay for. it like because I guess it was more expensive cancel that and switched it to like a king and a pull-out couch gets there and he was like oh but I want a queen or I want two queens but I paid for the king and she was like oh I'm sorry well we're sold out and you reserved a king suite so I have a king suite for you and he was like he it was like him his wife and his two kids and he's like where the fuck do you want me to put my kids and she was like there's a

king bed and there's a pull-out couch like you and your wife can sleep in the king bed and your children can sleep in the polar couch, which was like the move, like that's what you did growing up anyways. And then he was like flipping out at her. And he was like, do I'm going to sleep in my car? And she was like, I have a room for you. How do we know that he didn't reserve two queens though? Because she said she was, because she was like, I could look at his data through like booking.com or whatever.

And she was like, he had two queen beds. It was more expensive. So he canceled it. Booked the king suite. Oh, and then he thought he would just show. up and cause a ruckus to get yeah you know what are sneaky not that bad some of like the like the motel six like they've really up their game disagree but i had to stay at one recently and they really up their game like it was what do you mean by up their game what is because to me it's

very simple the ingredients to having a good hotel room clean sheets i need i need clean sheets yeah i need a thermometer or a thermostat that goes down to like 60 degrees and then I need a remote for the TV that has a sleep timer button on it and a hot shower I don't I don't need very like super nice things for a lot of shit but the two things we've talked about today I I have headphones in 24 hours a day so I have really good headphones and then hotels I have to stay at like a pretty as an adult like your high maintenance team not high maintenance but like I need a fairly good hotel. I need a fairly good hotel. I do. So we've been fortunate enough through working at Barstool where I go on the road a lot and we usually stay in decent hotels. At the start, we stayed in like the worst places ever. And as we've gotten bigger as a company, now it's like we partner with a lot of hotels. Like we go out to Colorado and our sports book is in like a resort out there. So they roll out the red carpet for you. But anytime still to this day that I walk into a hotel room that looks like it even has like two. separate rooms in it. I'm always like, whoa, this is nice. Even if one of the rooms is just like a tiny little kitchenette that has like a half-sized fridge in it or whatever and then the rest of the room or just, you know, there's a small wall with a love seat and a coffee table in the second room. I'm like, whoa, this is really nice. I still get, I'm just mesmerized by nice hotel rooms.

You get what you pay for. Hotels and airplanes, spend the money. What's your least favorite hotel room you've stayed in. Like, have you ever walked into a room and been like, I got to go? I'll tell you, one time I went with a friend of mine, he was a big Spurs fan and the Spurs were playing the Grizzlies in the playoffs. So we drove from Knoxville to Memphis, which is actually very far, like way further than we anticipated. And so we stayed and then that was like a Friday night, so we were going to go back to Nashville

and we stayed somewhere between Memphis and Nashville just at like this tiny little shitty hotel and I remember walking in there I was like this is a problem there were like bugs and stuff it was terrible but other than that I don't think I've like stayed in a bad hotel

that was in college so like recently Best hotel I ever stayed at was Black Rock that they hooked Black Hawk No black rock in Colorado Yeah I thought it's Black Hawk No I think it's Black Rock

It's nice Or no, I think it actually is Black Hawk. Black Rock is the consultant or the financial company. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. It's like Ameristar Black Hawk. Yeah. Is it? Oh, anyways, it's awesome.

Yeah. It's a really nice hotel. I walked in there. You know the hotel's nice when it's got like a jacuzzi bathtub in the bedroom. Yeah. Like it had a little alcove for the bathtub in the corner with a window looking out over the Rocky Mountains. I took a fucking bath. That's cool.

Like, did you use it? No, I didn't have time. Well, I was working. Well, yeah, but at night. Yeah. You didn't use it? No, I didn't. Yeah, I did.

I almost slept in there. In the bathtub? Yeah. That would have been cool. Could die. I do like, I like a nice hotel room, but it never, I can deal without a nice hotel room, is what I'm saying. I like it, but I don't need it to function on the road. Just give me a clean, clean sheet and give me the sleep timer button on the remote.

That's all I ask for. On spring break once, I stayed in a hostel. and that was pretty grimy it was like uh speaking of hostile listened to eli roth yeah oh yeah we got an interview coming up with eli roth he talks a little bit about hostel and about his filmmaking hostels they they're fun they're a good time i was stayed in one in ireland my big ask with hotel rooms and anywhere i'm staying in general is i need tons of locks how many well just like we need a heavy lock we need like a bolt

you don't like just the door lock and then the rinky dink chain thing no fuck the chain thing never works that's getting what about the flip out metal wedge that you it has replaced the chain recently terrible yeah where it's just like a triangle no I like that

I like that better than the chain really yeah I think I think I do too because the chain sometimes feels like I could just break it with my hands yeah dead bolt I will say something that should be advertised on hotel websites this would if

if there were two hotels that were pretty similar that I was deciding between them, one said the thermostat goes down to 60, I'm picking that hotel. Yeah. I make it Arctic. Real cool. Like you can hang meat in there.

Yes. What is that about it? Because a lot of people like that. I love that. I know a lot of people here at Barcelona have talked about that. We love going into hotels and just seeing how low the temperature can get. I love a cold hotel room, but I'm not sure why. I think it's also partly because,

I mean, we know you do because different. tax bracket, but I don't have central AC in my apartment. So I just have my shitty little air conditioner next to my bed. So when I go somewhere that I can make the whole place just like that, it's luxury. I do also have a window unit because I live in New York City. So you don't have, you don't have, uh, central air. I've got two windows. He doesn't. He doesn't actually. That's crazy. I live in a, I chirped. I live in a, uh, high crime neighborhood. We discussed this. Everybody, everybody in here's a cold, everybody in here's a cold, the hot person, right? cold at night like you like being cold and going to hot instead of being hot and then getting cold

well yeah because you can yeah put on as many blankets and hoodies whatever as you want to get warm you can't oh yeah there's a finite amount of things you can take off right also i run hot yeah like just generally yeah no you want to be cold and then get hot get like warm so during this recent couple weeks where like before your landlord turns the heat on uh and it starts to cold. Like I imagine I'm at one of those hotels and I just put the AC on blast. So when I wake up all cold, I'm like, ooh, cozy. You know what I'm saying? It's just like it's all about a state of mind. But I like co. Yeah, people like to be cozy. Yeah. Cozy is like cozy is a natural want, I think for humans. I think it's like you feel secure when you're cozy. Comfort

seeking. What's the difference between being comfortable? in being cozy I think cozy implies a swaddle like you're like you're like you're being wrapped involved

you're being wrapped in something because I'm comfortable right now just sitting oh cozy but I'm not cozy if you wear like a cover

cozy or cozy because you can be comfortable in a lazy boy yeah but cozy's with a cover if I was wearing you could be cozy just hanging out

in a sweater if it's like a big fucking cover if it's one of those cable knit so sweaters that Chris Evans wears

and knives out so I'm the Lini Dykstra are not The Lenny Kravitz turtleneck. Yeah, that. Yeah, so both guys on drugs take their penis out a lot. I'm a big fan of Snuggies.

Yep. I have several Snuggies. Cozy. Cozy's fuck. And in this, in the cut, the Snuggie was out before the phones were big. And it is the perfect thing for like having a phone and put it on your snuggy like Monday night football when we don't watch in the office. I get on the couch. Usually just work out right before.

There's chill on there, Snuggie on, on the phone, live tweet. It's amazing. What do you think the net worth of the creator of the Snuggie is? I hope he's a hundred million thousand. $2 billion. No, $200 million. What? $200 million for the Snuggie?

That's a crazy. I know. That's insane. I was before I was just wishful thinking. What? Good for them. In the first five years, Snuggie sales top $500 million. Wow.

$500 million? All right, we got to think of the next snuggy. Dog blanket. Yeah, it's a dog blanket. Yeah, just do a bunch of Coke and convince ourselves that the dog blanket is. A snuggy. That's it. A snuggy for your dog.

No, a snuggie with a fly. I wish I wouldn't have thought of the ring camera. It's not a bad idea, Billy. It's not an idea, Billy. A snuggy that you can shit and poop in and pee in. Yeah. Isn't that like the old-timey onesies that you would wear to bed? Yeah, with the flat.

Yeah. And the night. But so like when I don't wear his nightcaps anymore. Bring them back. When I get up in my snuggy and walk to the bathroom, that's the biggest problem I have that I need a flap. You got to, yeah, and then you have to like lift it up. Yeah. That's what girls are like all the time.

And you're like, what are you, what am I doing? Yeah, that's a good point, mad dog. That's just a dress. I always wonder when I see, when I see a girl that goes out like all day wearing a one piece jumper. Oh, the jumpsuits. Yeah, I always think like when you. go pee you have to like take all of your clothes off you you're naked that's so weird that's so inefficient yeah well remember the the the the rom pin yeah that was a thing yeah that thank

god that never caught they got swagger jacked by balls beach wear yeah that's what happened big t do you have anything to be teed off about no no really it's been a pretty uh an eventful week actually uh there was something that happened to me last week uh that i should have mentioned on Monday, I just didn't think about it. I went to a little New York City libish bar on Friday after work

and I didn't want to drink because it was like this fancy they didn't eat all even the beers were like crazy so I was like whatever can I just get a Coke and they bring out a it was like seven and a half ounce can

of Coke which whatever that's fine and then I paid and it was $6 and I just about had a stroke I don't blame you I truly couldn't believe it

and so yeah that's just you know it's Joe's America that's what we're living in and I hope it gets fixed soon because I'm trying to I'm trying to think of the things that you could charge Big T for that would make him instantly like want to pass out like things that would really make his that just about did it that's

probably up there i think like if you if you ordered chick-fil-a on uber eats oh i mean you may as well buy boat yeah but i'm saying like if if it was $30 for you to get chick-flall then at that point i think you would you would storm some capital i've accepted the food prices here foods out it's outrageous if you go out to eat it costs what it costs but that was like i mean that's egregious It is pretty bad. But is that Biden's fault? No, that's just New York. Yeah.

Like, that's, it was $6 before Joe. I mean, so whatever. They charge with you. That's capitalism, baby. Yeah. Yep. Sure it is. It's not my choice to go to that place.

No. What's like the number one thing you, like, waste your money on? You'd say. Rent. Yeah. um i go out to eat probably more than i think a lot of people in new york do but like i probably spend too much money on that um other than that like i don't know video games yeah falls a tough time cods coming out

FIFA just came out NHL they hit you all at once I still ask for Madden for Christmas for my grandma do you without fail they are the like EA sports might be the biggest scam artists on the planet

yeah they have to be because the game has not only gotten worse they still continue to push out promo for like buying Ultimate Team players. That's all they have. Next summer when NCAA comes out, there's, I don't remember if we've discussed it on this show or not, but there's not a three-digit number I wouldn't pay

for that video game. They could charge $900. I'd pay it. Yeah. They've just gotten away from the simplicity of the game. Like I remember Madden 18 was very simplistic and now it's like all the players have like superstar X factor and it takes away from the balance of the game, I feel like. Yeah, I haven't played Madden in years, but next July, it's on. All I'm saying is that me and Big T are, we're a problem when you get us on the sticks and feet. We're pretty nasty. We need to do that again because we, we played some duos and we were fucking people up. I did see that.

Grittying on graves. Mm-hmm. It was nasty. So do we want to talk about any of the Kanye stuff? Crazy. Crazy. Bad guy. No, but, but.

Well, wait, wait, no, no, no, no, no, no, bad guy. All I want to say is, yes, Kanye's an idiot. But, like, who are these people acting like Kanye was the moral arbiter of our society? And, like, they're so disappointed in Kanye West. Right. Like, this guy's been a moron for many years. Kanye was permanently banned from Fortnite. Who's to let you guys know?

That's it. Whatever happened in the First Amendment in this country. I know. That's disgusting. It's a big. biggest L he's ever taken, probably. Big tech, silencing another voice. Antonio Brown had a very, we're just going to go off his statement today. Antonio Brown, tell me if you think that Antonio Brown wrote a single word of this statement, right?

We all know A.B. Over the past few weeks, the world's reactionary and selective outrage at comments in the media made by my brother, yay, have inflamed and spark rampant conversation and reflection. I too have been able to reflect on statements that I and other. in my circle have made that lack clarity and expressing my stance. The people and brands that have relentlessly profited from black ideas and black culture chose to distance themselves at a very specific time, a time that demonstrated their prioritization of certain groups over others. None of us in this world are free of judgment, yet we live in a time where scrutiny and pessimism have driven our dialogues on cultural issues towards diatribes. Sensationalism and group think have forced people to not speak their minds and act out in

fear rather than love. For these reasons, I stand by my dedication to freedom of speech, thought, and opinion. I actively seek to coexist in places where I may have a difference of opinion because it's diversity and thought that pushes humanity forward. Let me be clear, discrimination of any kind is an injustice to all people, which is exactly why I wish to issue this statement. No way. He doesn't know that that statement exists.

Definitely not. Not to stray too far away from Kanye. How is A.B. not in jail. Didn't he, like, sexually assault a woman on camera? And he's assaulted multiple people. I don't know. Lex Friedman I was talking about. I get to mix up.

Lex Friedman. That was just the totally different name. I don't know how I mixed those. I did not. I saw that he did a podcast with him. Basically, Lex Friedman. It was like two and a half hours long and it was like I don't really feel like listened to Kanye talk for an hour.

I saw clips, but he basically like tried to talk Kanye down and actually got him to admit like that he was like he got him to admit that he was caught up in like talking points do you see the peers morgan interview no that was crazy that was nuts he was like pierce morgan you are broke i am richer than you why should i listen to you he started talking in like a british accent he's like pierce morgan's like i don't sound like that that's kind of funny when pierce morgan is like dude you should really like stop talking right now you should probably listen yeah i do want to get off my chest I was front row at a Kanye West concert in 2016.

I no longer would do that. There's no shame in that. He's got great music. I might actually go to a Kanye West concert. Now? Yeah, because he... Well, I think you're going to get canceled for that. His music is awesome.

I think I... You're not really supposed to support him anymore. Art from the artist, though, separate it. Yeah, I think you're going to get canceled for that. I mean, okay, you can't sit here and tell me that... Wait, Billy's about to sneeze. It's going to be so loud. Yeah, all right.

I just knew I knew that was going to direct. any thought I was about to have, so I decided to press pause on it. You can't tell me that through the wire isn't a banger. I don't care. I don't know that's all. Oh, through the wire is a banger. Through the banger. Yeah, it's awesome.

Through the banger. If Vladimir Putin came out with college dropout, I would be like, let's hear him out. Vladimir Putin made graduation. Yeah, I'd be like, listen, he's got some good ideas. But I will no longer be supporting. I will no longer go to a county of Wisconsin. You think he's about to drop? a new album

Kanye West yeah no he's just off his rocker yeah he's uh maybe office meds it's possibility I would almost

this is a guy who has doctor but I could almost guarantee he is office medicine who has said in his songs before I am insane when I stopped taking my medication and people are like what could possibly be wrong

yeah you remember a couple years ago when he he first started doing the he would like put on the maga hat and do that sort of thing um people were saying that this is a giant artistic expression that he's doing that's based on like an obscured 19th century French satirist and that only Kanye like can know because like one of his business

partners helped to publish like a book that cited that French satirist in the table of contents or something. It was everybody who said like this Kanye is playing like 17 dimensional chess right now and nobody can understand except for me because I've done this. It was probably some guy that just like wrote a paper about this French dude in college and just connect everything that he sees in the world is tied back to that guy. He's he's doing it. Kanye's doing my guy. Do you think Kanye comes out ever with more music that does like well and people are like, this is really good? Yeah. Really? Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I don't know. Okay. So could you ever listen to a song where you disagreed with the lyrics a million percent? You disagreed

to the message of the song, but the tune itself was still like, yes. It's like the, the, uh, gif of Jay-Z like bobbing his head. Yeah, but I think collectively like everyone is like actually done with him and they, like, he will never get critically acclaimed ever again. I'm not so sure about that. No music critic would ever be like, you know what, this new Kanye West record is good. I don't think that'll ever happen. So it won't happen with like R. Kelly.

his whole he's getting like everywhere he's getting a full press right now like his Donda basketball team his Donda school basketball team was eliminated from tournaments basically you know all of his stuff's been cut off

the whole sports agency stuff with Aaron Donald yeah CAA dropped him yes so I mean I think I think it's starting to it might you know he might start correcting his no but I I think that when you're like, like Kanye is, you don't look at things like these are the consequences of my actions.

I think dealing with consequences just makes you more dug in that what you're doing, that you're the only sane person that everybody else is wrong. He thinks that it's everyone, like he thinks that Adidas is going to go bankrupt now. Yeah. And here's the thing. If you're Kanye West and it goes back to what he was saying to Pierce Morgan when he was saying, I'm richer than you, why would I ever listen to you? Kanye West probably he's done very well for himself it's not unreasonable for him to have that much confidence

in what he thinks given all the success that he's made for himself in the past so he's like well my brain has gotten me to these highs and these points in my career that's been previously unattainable by anybody so why would I stop listening to myself right now so he's just going to get more and more dug in on everything as he gets called out for stuff

so basically and I guess we should say with a caveat of we haven't listened to what Kanye has said in this interview with Lex Friedman or whatever. But when you start a tweet with saying I'm about to go DeathCon 3 on Jews, that's probably like you should maybe log off for a while. Just put the account on pause. The craziest part is that he wasn't ready yet. He had to take a nap. Yeah. And then when he woke up.

Yeah. When I wake up, I'm going to go. death con three on jews like imagine going to sleep being like when i wake up tomorrow morning like what the fuck he probably woke up in the morning like i'm not really feeling death con right now he also invented a thing it's deaf con yeah not death con the death con is worse i think it is because like death yeah it's like it implies that you're actively going to be attacking yeah fuck juna there's a there's a there's a a tape being being recorded right now for Kanye, I think, in Bedstuy.

Okay. Like, it's, I just saw on TikTok. I think there's a Jewish rapper diss in Kanye. And he's got all, he's in like a acidic part of the city. Do you want to play it? Yeah, I haven't listened to it yet. Okay, this could be good or it could be really bad. So.

So. Sorry again. Yeah, that was it. That was it. That's all we get. Yeah, it was terrible. Okay. I heard him say Moses on there. Maybe you'll come out. The record cut will be better. Okay. Should we ban Kanye West for macro dosing? As a guest? Yeah. Yes. I'm going to leave this one up to Big T. This is a big T's call.

I feel like now that you said that, you kind of have to. Why? Well, because you can't not do it now. Freedom of speech. Freedom of speech only protects you from the government. So Twitter should ban him. No, it's not what I said. Twitter has exhibited that it's more than willing to do that.

They restricted him. I would like to say Kanye West can come on. I'm banning him for macrodosing in, Unless he just comes on to perform his old songs. I like that. I will permit Kanye West to come on the show if he performs graduation start to finish. Yeah, we're a separate the art from the artist podcast.

And some of that ultra-light beam song. I like that song. Oh, yeah. And oh, and the song that he did on the weird Bible album with Kenny G. That was a good song too. That was the only real song on that album. I will convert to Christianity. No, I'm taking that back.

Wait, aren't you? Come on Quaker. Kanye's Christianity. I already said I would convert to Christianity if Carson Went to win a playoff game. Isn't? Is Quakerism not a Christian? Not really.

Not really. Well, what? It's, it's, are you, are you quaker splaining to me? Yeah, I'm quaker spawning to you. Isn't this Quaker on Quaker crime? Billy's not a Quaker. Well, I'm not like, I got, there's, there's quaker. You're the least Quaker person ever.

Yeah, well, I'm, yeah, you are. I am related to Quaker. What does that mean? You're related to Quakers. I, you know, is there anybody in your life that's, that's a Quaker that's closer to you than I am? That's practicing? Yeah.

It's kind of, it's Quaker adjacent. Christianity and Quakerism is, they're adjacent, but they're. Do they believe Jesus Christ? It was started. It's an enlightened religion. Quakerism was started as a denomination of Christianity. Christianity. Yes.

Originally. I'm going to look it up right now. Technically Christian. Like, Amish people are technically Christian. So are Mennonites and like. Yeah, because you believe Jesus is the son of that. Are you like Christian, like in denial of being part of a Christian sect? No, but it's, but it's, it's very, very different from Christianity.

No, it is. Are you thinking, but are you thinking, are you thinking, are you thinking of Christianity as a Quaker, but you're not. Catholic. That's correct. Yeah. Yes. So, but when people say they're Christian, that's kind of like saying like, you're a mammal. So there are different denominations of Quakerism as well.

Oh, okay. Okay, which are all under the umbrella of Christianity. There are some, there are some denominations of Quakerism that, uh, view Jesus as being one of the many teachers. There are some that view Jesus being the son of God, but you have like a personal relation and then there are some denominations of quakerism that uh the more liberal versions of quakerism that don't really put that much it's just about like i mean your relationship mormonism you you you follow christian the liberal versions follow the teachings but they don't

but they don't follow the person does that make sense yeah but it's still under the umbrella of christianity or like Mormonism is like christian is like christian is technically a Christian religion. Latter-day Saints. Like people, it's just like you're associating Christian with like its own religion. It's really not. Yeah, I guess I guess that's kind of fair. My personal upbringing in the Quaker Church was more about like don't pay attention to Jesus Christ, the person.

And don't interpret him being a son of God as being like a literal thing, but use the stuff that he did as inspiration for what you do. And see that part, the son of God part's pretty Christian. That is that that's like the whole. That's a big part. So that's what I'm saying like Jesus Christ is a part of some parts of Christian or just because you're equating Christianity to like bad. No, I'm not. You are the way you're talking about it.

No, it's not at all. No, I'm saying. You're like, no, I'm not Christian. I'm saying, I'm saying following like believing that 100% Jesus was the son of God and taking all that stuff literal. That is. Right before this, you're like, I'm not Christian. Like Quakerism is in Christianity.

Well, I was, yeah, it is. I'm not a practicing Quaker. Right. I was raised in the Quaker church, but not practice. Quakerism sounds like its own, its own thing. I think religion is a great thing for anybody if it makes them feel good and makes them do good stuff. I would never, I only clown on organized religion when it's people that are trying to

enforce their weird shit on other people that don't want to believe. And you know what? That is exactly how Halloween came about. Let's go, Billy. So Halloween actually found a lot of its original origin in a non-Christian thing at all. And then Christians impose themselves onto those people to sort of make some of their traditions coincide with Christianity. And that is how we're going to go way back to the highlands of Scotland and the bogs of Ireland to a a pagan practice called same ham same hand same ham s a m h a i and there's yeah no but

hallowing hallowing is uh hallowing is also known as all hallows day and oh wait don't all saints day also known as all hollows day is november 1st and that used to be a much bigger hollows holiday back in the day when Christianity was much more widespread. But that is the reason why every election day is always held on the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November because they never won an election day to fall on All Saints Day, the first of November. Okay. So by that rule, the first Tuesday after the first Monday means that if November the first is a Tuesday, which it is this year. Oh, so this is actually, oh, that's huge. Yeah, this is one of those times where election day is then the second Tuesday after the first Monday.

I always found that a really cool little juxtaposition. And it's because of All Saints Day or All Hallows Day, which Hallows Eve means Halloween evolved. Okay. So it's pretty cool. And Hallows means like holy. So Hallows Day. So Hallows Day. holy day all holy day turns into hallows eve Halloween and it's a it's pretty cool so basically back in the day before there was over 365 saints there used to be a day for each saint but then became too many saints there's too many saints so they made one day for all saints all saints yeah so so so all how what is hallow mean hallow means holy okay so yeah so originally it was to people get dressed up as their favorite saint no no what you in order to discuss the

story when when do people start getting slutty okay so actually so jesus mary maglin talked to jesus and said hey jesus before cuffing season the city girls need one last time to bust it out and find like a cuff mate so for for uh really dump them out yeah for like candles and chill because they didn't have Netflix and that was the only way they could see so then Jesus is like okay one night a year it's acceptable to wear whatever outfit you want for the single ladies and mary maglin was like hell yeah and he's like but the next day we have to honor all the holy people you got to go to church immediately yeah and that is when the cuffing season starts so that's when that's when uh you know hot girl summer ends uh-huh and then cuffing season starts got it that's that's where that part

comes in. Yeah, it's like how Mardi Gras, you know how Mardi Gras got started? No. Marty Gras. Yeah, like Fat Tuesday. Yeah, it's called Fat Tuesday because you weren't allowed to eat a lot of stuff in your house over the course of Lent, those 40 days, 40 nights. And so they would just eat all the shit that they had that they knew they wouldn't be allowed to for the next month. And so that Tuesday was called Fat Tuesday because you're getting fat. And then you're going to have to, you know, go on Lynch or whatever they call it. Yeah. So also, so basically, because there's so many saints, they need to put all the states on one day. They set a day apart to honor them all and called All Saints Day. This took place in the year 1610 AD, the day of the

year which the festival first occurred was the first of May and it was not until 200 years after it was changed in November 1st, the day we now observe. The Christians of those times were in the habit of spending the night before All Saints Day in thinking over the good and helpful lives of those whose honor the day was kept in praying that they might be like them. Services were held in the churches, candles, and incense burned before the pictures and statues of the saints. It was to them one of the holiest, most significant days of the year. So, since all the saints were dead, because in order to be a saint, you have to be, you know, made a saint after your death and all this stuff. So they were honoring dead people. So it was the thought of like, okay,

honoring dead people in May, uh, that's, you know, their vibe. Like that same vibe then when they're trying to impose Christianity, a lot of the pagan religions of Northern Europe, this weird time of Christianizing Europe when, you know, Christianity wasn't widespread. Like Christmas, right, coincides with the equinox, the winter, the solstice equinox, one of those things. One of those things, right? So there was an already established holiday that coincided with the winter cycles. And one of those was this Celtic, Scottish, Irish tradition called Samehain, Sam Hain.

And basically it was the festival that marked the end of the harvest season, the beginning of winter or darker half of the year. So during this change of time in like pre-Christianity religions in Europe, it was like when the darkness came is when, you know, the spirits and everything came out to play. It was like a very mystical time of year. It was the dark half of the year. And this was like the marking of the start of that time. And it coincided with the harvest. That's why Halloween's color are orange and black. The orange is to signify the harvest.

And the black is to signify the darkness that is coming. Okay. So orange is, I always thought that the orange had more to do with the colors of the leaves. Right. But like, but like, but, uh, harvest occurred like when the grain turns so grains green yeah and then when it's ready to be harvest it turns orange yeah like orange is a big thing but this also then uh coincided with this time of the first three days like all so there was a time about all hollow tide and it was a

remembrance of deluge of the first night hollow's eve remembers the wickness of the world before the flood like noah's ark and then the second day celebrates the saved who survived the great flood and then the last day celebrates those who would repopulate the earth so this like tradition of out with the old in with the new sort of coincides with this Halloween time so the you know so this day was then moved from may to a time that coincided with a lot of the pagans holidays so when christianity was marketing itself they could be like oh like what you do there is basically what we do but just a different thing and you can keep some of your religious type stuff and keep it all integrated and uh and at this time there was

tons of traditions um so this is when they thought the souls of the dead their dead kin were thought to revisit their home seeking hospitality okay and a place was set up at the table for them during a meal mummings and guisings were part of the festival from at least the early modern era where people went door to door and costume reciting verses in exchange for food this also coincides with like caroling mumming was like a big thing like back then where they just go to different people's houses and be like can we have some food that like begging like going house to house was like turns out very popular back when you know everyone was neighbors and didn't think that a bunch of people showing up asking for stuff was weird

so the costumes may have been a way of imitating and disguising oneself from the divination in the evil spirits so back then people gave like nuts and apples so it's a very actually Irish and Scottish tradition that then they brought over to the Americas so so you I like the part where you would leave out a spot for the dead people like at your table yeah so in In case, in case dad wants to come back. Like the riblet is, or not the, the McRib is back for a limited time. Dad would love this and we'll leave one out for him. Yeah.

And all the kids go to bed and then dad just eats it. You see this could be the last time? That's bullshit. It's Cap. That's how they're selling. It's brilliant marketing. That's Mick Cap. Did you see that video of the people being like, oh my God, this is so disgusting.

And they were making the McRib. I was like, this actually looks like really good. Yeah, I love the McRib. Don't get me wrong. I really enjoy eating it when it's out. But that's that's cat. Big T. Big K.

No, I said it's great marketing. I guess it's okay. It's very transparent to me. Get with the fucking mix soup already, all right? Make some mix soup. I'm really into the Mexican version. I guess you could call it the Mexican version of Halloween. Deis.

The Dia de los Mueros, the Day of the Dead. That occurs right in like. It's like, it's like on Halloween. It's November. It's November of October. Yeah, it's usually end of October. Maybe like November 1st, November 2nd. I think it's early next week.

So it's Day of the Dead. And what they do in Mexico is they, everyone like dresses up as skeletons. You have skeletons everywhere. They paint their faces as skeletons. You eat like little sugar skeleton skulls. And you celebrate all the relatives that you have that are dead. And so you make an ophrenda in your house,

which is like an altar and you put pictures of all your dead family members up there and you tell stories about them. And then you write little like, fake obituaries sometimes for your friends that are alive that are at the feast or the get together or whatever. So like you kind of roast them, but you write what would be in their obituary, almost like the old saying of how cool would it be to get to see your own funeral and see all the nice things that people say to you after you're dead, but get to experience that while you're alive. They do some of that stuff too. It's a much more positive way and

realistic way, I think, of looking at life and death because everybody's going to die. We're all going to die one day. And so we spend her entire life being afraid and being sad about death, but you can also celebrate the people that are dead that are in your life. So I'm a fan of the day of the dead. They have these big parades and shit. Down in Austin, they have big festivals for Dia de los Muirtos. It wasn't like the best movie, but James Bond Spector, the opening scene, it's the day of the dead. And it's so sick. Like the way they've shot it, you have to watch it. It's insane. I got to check that out. Yeah. Because there's like a bunch of colors and stuff we're all thinking about death as being when we think of death it's

like black right you think of like spookiness yeah around death but with their dia delis morto celebration there's a little bit of that like morbid sense to it but it's also very much a celebration where it's like bright colors and shit so a lot of like the gore relation with Halloween and horror and stuff and like blood actually comes from this this day the original pagan day where they had this festival of the transition from the light to the darkness is when they used to bring a lot of their livestock down to pasture from like the summer pasture to and they'd slaughter all of them for the winter to make sure that they had enough food for the winter harvest kill all the livestock so if you look up the current day celebration of ead

with which has a ton of animal sacrifice that's what was going on in these you know peasant pagan towns in like northern Europe when it was the end of the summer they had to conserve meat for the winter and it was easier to kill a bunch of the animals and try to preserve their meat instead of trying to keep them alive throughout the winter when they'd probably get picked off by wolves uh which was the the origin of a lot of werewolf stories um so they basically had this huge slaughter fest uh there was a lot of death being done uh on the animals probably blood running through the streets and you know they were lighting bonfires and it was uh this was the time when the spirits were out and about and there is also coinciding with this peer this

ominous going into the winter so it was the perfect time for christians to be like yeah let's let's stop that pagan shit uh you know we got a thing that we can do and you're going to call it hallows eve and all saints day and you're going to celebrate the saints the next day instead of uh just the dead like they're yeah the saints are some of the dead uh and even though they're not your relatives you should celebrate them on the day after but the day before you you know when you were doing all the weird shit with your ancestors like that's that's a wicked day when do you think the real the sluttiness came out of Halloween uh well as we talked about in the original mary magdalen was like hot girl summer needs to end so they can transition into christian girl you're completely

skipping christian girl autumn yes yes that then exists oh i guess jesus was he hadn't gone pro yet so christianity wasn't a thing yeah everybody was jewish exactly right no but something that I sound like Kanye right now we can get to how it developed into a commercial holiday but the origin of the jack-o-lantern is also

from these pagan religions and it comes from the Stingy Jack the story of Stingy Jack Stingy Jack was a blacksmith who on route home after a night's drinking

encountered the devil so Jack encountered the devil and tricked him into a climbing a tree, a quick thinking Jack etches the sign of the cross and is the bark of the tree trapping the devil. And the devil then was like, let me down. Jack was like, let's strike a bargain. So Jack straights a bargain with Satan that he can never claim his soul. And look, Jack wasn't, you know, the best Christian. So Jack, after a life of sin and drinking and mendacity, Jack was refused entry to heaven. Was that your word mendacity? It's from the original

reading okay uh so jack was refused entry to heaven because he was a bad dude and then he then went to hell and was like uh so where do i go and the devil was like ha motherfucker you like fucked yourself by not saying i could take your soul that didn't mean heaven had to take your soul so because of that uh wait i thought the whole purpose of the bargain was so the devil couldn't take his soul so but the devil couldn't take his soul but heaven wasn't taking him because he was a bad boy got it Just because we're kicking you out of this club doesn't mean you're going to get accepted to the other one. So the devil refused to let Jack in. He threw him a live coal straight from the depths of hell at Jack.

It was a cold night. So Jack placed the coal in a hallowed out turnip to stop it from going out. Since which time Jack and his lantern have been roaming, looking for a place to rest for eternity. So from this Christian religion, a turnip, which was then, you know, you know, gourd carving was a thing back when, like, gourds of all sorts. Turnips was a type of gourd, like it's a tuber. So he, so basically Jack did the hard part and defeated the devil, but then just forgot to be like, yeah, Jesus, I accept you as my savior at the last second.

I mean, if you beat the devil, you'd probably think you're untouchable on this earth. It's the details. The devil is in the details in this one. Whoa. Is that you think where it came from? 100%. So, yeah, that's where jackalander's come from. Yeah.

And then so... You ever seen like a really sick, sick jackalander that's carved by like an artist? With the like real fine, fine tools. I still just want to smash them. There's something really fun about destroying pumpkins. You want to know, like Madeline said, she'll never go to a Kanye concert again. I think it was 2004. we had a Michael Vick pumpkin at my house.

I feel like that was, he atoned for his sins, though. Yeah, I guess. I would have fed that pumpkin to my dog. That's what I would have done. Yeah. Dogs love pumpkin. There is a, I loved Michael Vick, man.

That shit, that shit was the worst. Yeah. Michael, Vic was like, probably my second favorite athlete as a kid, fine chipper. What a, what a crazy time that was. in like 2007. People, yeah.

He just signed a new contract. He was the most electric athlete on the planet. He changed how we played football and how he played football video games too. And went to federal prison running a dog fighting ring. A dog fighting operation. Bad news kennels. Crazy. Is that what it was called?

Yeah, bad news. In Newport News, Virginia. Crazy. Bad news kennels. And yeah, him and, man, Marcus, Marcus, Vic, that, there's a name for you. Marcus was supposed to be, like, better than Michael Vick when he went to Virginia Tech. And I heard some stories about him when he was on campus because I had a lot of friends that went to Virginia Tech at the same time he did.

He got in some trouble with some of his teammates. They had, like, this crash pad where it was essentially an apartment with just a mattress on the floor, and they would just take girls there and bang them. And there was, that sounds really romantic, right? Like, they would just, you know, they bang, bang these girls out. apparently they got in trouble because some of the girls were underage actually like very significantly underage allegedly allegedly I don't know I think that there was there's probably a a police report filed about it to Michael Vick's credit though one of the few people who

like went to jail came out and like actually tried to like fix the things he did yeah yeah I mean I I think that he's a scumbag for what he did and you have to be you have to be you have have something fucked up in you to be able to do the kind of stuff that they did to dogs um from sources i've heard michael vick was a big yes man to his crew that could have been it too yeah and by financing like you know financing an operation like doesn't necessarily mean you have to be adjacent to it so i mean who knows uh oh here we go following an incident which occurred on january 27th 2004 Marcus Vick was arrested and accused of having sexual relations with a 15-year-old girl. Yeah.

He was also charged with unlawfully providing alcohol to three underage girls who claim to be college students. So that could be a dicey situation where one of the girls said that she was 18 and then turns out she was much young. That's a big three years, though, between 18 and 15. What was the date on that again? that was 2004 but the time of year what time of year was it yeah uh january oh no why that was around october for some reason and then that would have been spooky spooky marcus marcus vick getting into some real spooky stuff anyway the jack lantern then evolved in america using the most common american gourd the pumpkin and the jack laner was also a way

protecting one's home against the undead superstitious people use them specifically to ward off vampires. They thought this was because it was said the jackalander's light was a way of identifying vampires who once their identity was known would give up their hunt for you. So that, um, so that, uh, going door to door asking for treats, exchanging singing, dressed up as, uh, different saints. Uh, it's not asking for treats, Billy. It's, it's putting a question, trick or treat. With that developed, you can choose trick. So in the, uh, the Christian origins of that sort of, uh, what's the word, exactly where they went door to door um the trick or treat part came with more of the pagan

traditions um that you know the evil spirits might do something bad if you don't reward them and a lot of it was prayers for treats so they would pray for your um dead loved ones if you gave them a treat and then it went to america became trick or treat because uh unhappy ancestors sort of got detached and this whole idea of night of mischief was afoot so wicked spirits the day before you celebrated the good saints was sort of the juxtaposition comes to america candy companies rigley uh all these large agricultural conglomerates in the midwest start to produce goods hirschy and they start to produce candy and for the first time in history you have food stuffs being cooked, created, and processed outside of the home.

And with this became a lot of distrust. Because think about it, let's say coming out of the depression, all the food you ever made was always done in the home. You know, you bought the flour. You know, the flour is made by the baker, but it's just white flour. There's nothing to hide in there. sugar you got from the store it's white powder you know didn't have to worry about fentanyl back then yeah and all those foodstuffs that came in the eggs were probably from your garden but now you're getting goods that were created in a totally different location totally different uh kind of alien

setup and this was actually the foundation of all the poison candied and razor blade apple myths interest yeah so the urban legends about malevolent strangers intentionally hiding poisons or sharp objects such as razor blades needles or broken glass and candy and distributing the candy or to harm random children especially during Halloween or trick-or-treating so these are modern cautionary tales to children and parents and repeat two themes that are common urban legends danger to children and contamination of food so during the industrial revolution when food production moved out of the or local area where it was made in familiar ways by known and trusted people to strangers using unknown ingredients and unfamiliar machines and processes. Some doctors publicly claimed

that they were treating children poisoned by candy every day. If a child became ill and had eaten candy, the candy was widely assumed to be the cause. However, no cases of illness or death were ever substantiated. So this was a big, the poison candy myth came about back in the Industrial Revolution and there was a resurgence back. in the 1960s of 70s. This was a time of great social upheaval, greater racial integration, improved status for women reflected. Societyal questions about who is trustworthy, because society was struggling with questions about whether to trust neighbors in newly integrated neighborhoods or young women who are publicly rejecting the subservient motherhood-focused roles previously

assigned to women. These stories about unidentifiable neighbors, allegedly harming random innocent children during an event intended to bring happiness to these children, caught and retained the public imagination in a way that Akker's stories about judgmental neighbors, an abusive parent or an adult carelessly leaving harmful chemicals where children could reach them would not have. People love to get afraid. Have you noticed that? People love to be just terrified as shit about everything. I mean, the whole, so there were a couple of examples of people with candy, with poison or other

household detergents or chemicals, but they were all staged by the children for attention. yeah or whenever children died of a mysterious circumstances especially when they were poisoned by drugs around the time of Halloween it was always blamed upon Halloween can't even if it was a month later it's still Halloween it was like oh he went into his Halloween stash and ate a random blank it must have been laced with not my heroin but someone else's heroin yeah people people love to get afraid of stuff and there's certain things that they love to dig up all the time One is they dig up and they renew the poison candy or the razors and the apples, which nobody's ever done because who does that. And then they also love to revitalize the satanic panic stuff where they say, oh, kids are becoming satanic and they're doing these rituals with dogs and cats and animals and they're coming for your kids and there are secret messages in the songs that your kids are listening to trying to get them to become satanic. and they like to dig that out like once every 10 years or 15 years and it's never true like none of the and also like if you look up what the church of Satan is then I think that's probably at odds entirely with what people think that it is in terms of like torture and all that shit but people love to have that on the news the news loves to put up like yeah like satanic ritual

found in like middle school cafeteria so there's actually there's two your kids next There was two instances of actual people messing with food, but it's actually quite funny. In 1959, a California dentist, William Shine, gave candy-coated laxiv pills to trick-or-treaters, which not going to kill anybody. Prank. That's actually better than what dentists usually do on Halloween, which is they give you the fucking toothbrush and the toothpaste. And like, oh, make sure to brush your teeth because you're eating all that sugar. You ever have a, you ever have a dentist in your neighborhood? No.

Skip the dentist's house. Big T. Well, no, you're from Georgia, so probably not many dentists. Avery? Yeah. This guy tries to sit here and say like, oh, I'm not a fucking shitty liberal elitist. My family's from the South, man. I thought it was from MS-13 land. I'm from the South or from Virginia.

No, North Carolina, but that's okay. There was dentists in MS-13 land? Huh? Nothing. And then in 1960. But you know what I'm saying? Like the stupid dentist that. I'm sure there's a lot of

Dennis where you live now In 1960s Cosmetic Dentistry to the Stars Ficti you can come to PFT's house I don't know that I'm allowed He has window AC units What does that mean? I've got Now Billy's calling you poor

Yeah I'm poor He's got window AC units No He's got probably four gates In 1964, disgruntled Long Island, New York woman gave out packages of inedible objects to children she believed were too old to be trick-or-treating. The packages contained items such as steel wool, dog biscuits, and ant buttons were clearly labeled with the word poison. Though nobody was injured, she was prosecuted and pleaded guilty to endangering children. So that was, that was, so those were two instances where people actually messed with stuff.

but the thing is in 1964 that year and by the way she was just giving it to teenagers and people she was like go get a life like candies for the little kids um so in that same year there was reports of lie filled bubble gum being hand out in Detroit and rat poison being given out in Philadelphia even though these media reports were never substantial to be actual events and this sold papers so this was alarmistry I mean honestly this is probably one of those side effects capitalism uh you know if something's selling if gets clicks i mean we're at a click industry thing yep but my legalized cocaine blog is unpublishable um interesting but yeah so so there's basically the bottom line is there's not your kid's not going to be getting fentanyl on Halloween hopefully hopefully good point good add on um you you guys want to do some rankings oh some Halloween candy rankings yeah we got to get to this shit before everybody else does because I feel like next Friday and Monday are going to be big days for Halloween power rankings. So we just got to put ours out first.

The Barstall Sports Instagram is going to put out like every state's favorite Halloween candy. And it's by the stupid like American science sent. Yeah, don't talk about the American science symposium. No, trust them. Yeah, trust them. It's like circus peanuts. A real quick can in like Florida. Yeah.

Usually that's one of the ones. Candy corn was originally marketed as chicken feed. Candy corn rocks. I love candy corn. It rocks for a week a year. I don't mind candy corn. I would never down candy corn in March. I don't mind it at all.

The candy pumpkins. Yeah, those are good too. People hate candy corn for no real reason. It's gross. It's like pure sugar. It's literally just sugar. Like it tastes good. But it's basically it's old fashioned candy back when candy was ass.

like candy didn't always used to be like super good like candy used to be pretty shitty like black licorish people used to eat that shit up but also like I just don't think food was as good because there's no like processed shit in it like I just don't think anything was as good though there's some pretty good like I bet old but the thing is like farm style white bread

is what wonder bread used to be and that shit rocks yeah like I like I like the like only five ingredients food not processed but like baked in different goods like the five ingredients ice cream

where it's just milk cream eggs sugar not all the other shit I love wonder bread it's I don't care

if it's processed I don't care what's in it oh I do Wonderbread is dessert yeah winter bread's awesome you just eat the whole loaf

by itself you can crumple into a little ball and it sticks together and then you put the ball in oh so good Wonderbread

Skippy Welch's grape jelly is just candy oh uncrustable Dude, I'm going to hand out on crustables for Halloween this year. How about that? Honestly, I wouldn't hate that if I were a kid. I'm going to hand out on questibles.

We'll see how many kids come to my apartment. Your loss, if you don't. Somewhere in Manhattan, PFT is going to be the Santa Claus of delicious pocketbook sandwiches. Oh, so basically candy corn came about because it was, they were marketing. They wanted to create agriculture-inspired treats to market to a large, rural society so they're marketing to corn fans yeah it's corn so buttercream candies so they were marketing this is actually hilarious they marketed candy originally to like agricultural to rural populations and use terms like butter cream because it's two things that they found like very

nurturing like butter and cream yeah but was then just like to then i would say even though butter and cream i would say are pretty savory not necessarily sweet yeah so they just bait and switched people into a sugar addiction it's pretty cool hmm so um it was not always associated with fall and Halloween season uh it was well known as penny candy as bulk confectionery it was advertised an affordable and popular treat that could be a year round but it took a big time it became a Halloween staple in the 1950s when people began to hand out individually wrapped candy

to trigger treaters. So in the harvest colored themes were a big one. So that was why candy corn became so popular. Big candy. Big candy is right, like Mars, Hershey, like. Okay, let's come up with our power

ranking list. Should we do it before the interview or after? Let's do it after the interview. Good call. So we're going to get into our interview with spooky director, Eli Roth, you're like that? He's very spooky. Eli is brought to you by game time, created by fans for fans. Game time is the ticketing app that makes it easier than ever to score last minute deals on tickets to sports, concerts, shows. They guarantee the lowest price. Billy, you just went to a Yankees game, right? Oh yeah. One on Saturday. It was awesome. Yeah. How awesome was

it? The thing is I actually like, even if the Yankees aren't doing well, a trip to the ball. Park is something I always hold close to my heart. And thanks to game time, I was able to go. Yeah. Thanks to game time, Billy was able to make it. Clients were entertained. Very, very, very. I know one client was entertained.

Chris Long, recurring guest. Yeah. Of macrodosing. Yeah, he, uh, he sent me a text. He was like, I got Billy drunk on Saturday. No, I got him drunk on Saturday. You got him drunk? Yeah.

Who was entertaining which client? I entertained the shit out of him. Wait, wait. He said that he got you drunk. No, no, no, no. He, that is not true. all. Well, we have to get to the bottom of this.

Nate Collins, his co-host on Greenlight, said it got pretty hazy after this and poses a picture of me and them. I got him and his boys drunk. I took them to all these spots in the city. I was, I then Irish exited because they were too drunk. Okay. Chris said that he goes, hey, I got Billy's shit face Saturday. No, he got shit-faced.

This is, this is something. I'm going to call I'm going to call Chris The fact that he's saying that he got me drunk Is him covering for himself I'm going to call Chris we have to figure this out Yeah well what's good is you can use game time to entertain clients It's true regardless It's long form ad

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because I had a question for you. Yeah. So we're trying to figure out the mystery of who got who drunk on Saturday because Billy was just talking about go to the Yankees game and he said that he got you drunk. And then I was like, wait, Billy, wait. And then I said, wait, Chris told me that you got Billy shit-faced. So which one is it? So who left first, Billy?

I did. Okay. I walked into my hotel at 4 in the morning, dude. You left at like 1.45 in the morning. I can remember when I bought five shots of 1942 or whatever it was, and you looked at me in like, again, like you had that again look. Oh, no. Well, yeah, because I didn't get drunk.

Billy, Billy, Billy, you went home for a reason, bro. Yeah, because I had to record the next day. When I found out that Billy was at Yankee Stadium, we had to find him. Billy is an animal, bro. He dropped us in on the floor of the concourse at Yankee Stadium and then put it in at one in the morning. Damn, because he's a gremlin. I love that, Billy. He's in gremlin mode, but he couldn't sustain gremlin.

No, I, people are forgetting, people are forgetting I had to record the next day less than 12 hours later. Oh. Billy, I don't give a shit. Yeah, but no, no, but we had a great time. We had a great time. This is conclusive evidence. Thank you, Chris. I was just, I was accused.

Listen, the jury is in. The official verdict is that Chris got you drunk. Well, I left. Nothing to be ashamed. No, that's good. No. Many men. We had a great, we had a great time.

We had an amazing time. Also, it sounds like he was paying. All right. Oh, yes. Actually, that is true. Thank you. He did get me drunk. I appreciate it.

I'll let you get back. to it. Take care, bud. All right, bye. You got to do it again. All right. So, conclusively, no, technically, he got you drunk. No, don't say technically.

Technically, here comes a lie. He bought the shots of 1942. And I said, that is nuts. Like, we're getting. He got you drunk and you had to go home. It's fine. You can just say you had to leave. That means he got you drunk.

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of Barstall Sports that is game time and now here's Eli Roth all right we now welcome on a very special guest to macro dosing it's Eli Roth you've probably heard about him seen him in movies he's a director producer slash actor

slash everything we can get into what label you'd like us to use for you because you've done you've worn so many hats but he's here talking about his new series that's come out it's called Eli Roth presents my possessed pet, and it's out right now. You can watch it on Travel Channel and streaming on Discovery Plus. You say that few things are more profound than the quiet bond between a person and their pet,

but what if an evil presence takes hold of the animal and uses the trusted companion to get to us? Eli Roth presents my possessed pet. So my first question for you, Mr. Roth, is this show going to make me hate my dogs? No, this is for dog lovers. I'm a dog I grew up with dogs my dog I've had her nine years she's a Frenchie and I'd come down and I'd

see her like looking at my computer sitting like a human in a chair and it kept happening and I thought is I mean my first thought is of course is there a dead child inside my dog most people would be like the dog just wants to sit where you sat because it's warm

or smells like you but my thought is oh there's a dead child in my dog she just you know And so I thought, well, is this a real thing? Like, can your pet get possessed? And we put out the call. And we only did four episodes, like a limited series. And they're only on Discovery Plus now because they've all run on Travel Channel.

But it's like, we found someone with a horse, someone with possessed tarantula. And they said they were like, we found the actual people. And they're like, yeah, you know, Vincent, he was super friendly. It was super nice. And, you know, something got into. So, you know, you're like, how would you know that your tarantula is possessed? But what happens is like a lot of exorcists, a lot of demonic things start happening around the house. Like they all start having dreams of having spiders all over them or they're seeing these demonic figures.

So it's kind of a way into it's like a cool way into a possession story. Like if you replace the girl and the exorcist with your dog, but the people they do, they love their pets so much. They just don't know what to do. So we had two dogs, a horse and a tarantula. And they did exorcisms on their pets. brought in spiritual people to exercise the demons and then like yeah Vincent was back to normal after so you know look I we just tell the stories we interview the people and we do recreations but yeah it was fascinating my possessed pet that's interesting so I my question would be like how would

you know if a spider is possessed because I feel like spiders are already it's like yeah no shit your spider is possessed it's a spider that's kind of what it's a spider no of course like tarantulas people think they're evil but how would you know because they don't talk and they basically just kind of sit there, but they started like, like, things like weird. It's, it's the weird stuff. It's not that they're throwing up or tied up on the bed or the head spinning around. It's that they'll put the tarantula in the cage, close the lid and then be in their bedroom and then see him on the pillow. Yeah. And they're like, how does that happen? How does that happen? And then they'll go and they'll bring him back and like weird stuff like that kept kept happening. That the tarantula,

no matter who put them back in the cage, he would get out and just be somewhere else in the house. and then they started having these horrible nightmares about being covered in spiders and being attacked by tarantulas like everyone in the house was getting them um and they had named it after a demon like they gave the tarantulas some nickname like the the father was a researcher and it found some demon was like oh this is a cool name and that was the spirit that got into the tarantula and we have the people like we have the people on they explain the whole thing and they're like yeah we know this sounds crazy but i don't know what else to do like everyone in the house starts having nightmares he keeps getting out of the cage, he seems like a different pet, like everyone suddenly terrified.

Like one guy with his dog, the dog went in the cemetery, went back. And then the guy's like, yeah, my dog started mind controlling me. Like I became the dog's servant. Like, and then he's like, yes, master, yes, master. So was this guy having a psychotic episode? Was this dog possessed? But I don't know. But in any event, they all love their pets so much.

And they're like, I want to try and, I want to try and save them. They're not like religious, you know, people are like devoutly religious. We're like, oh, obviously this is a demon. They're just, you know, their stories. Like this girl with a horse, she's riding her horse. The horse is her best friend. And then the horse is like trying to run off a cliff and kill them. And she's like, what's going on?

Like, why is my horse suddenly? And then they found out that there was like, you know, they bring a medium in. This guy, Scotty, the New Jersey medium comes in. And he's like, there's an evil spirit. There was a murder here. There's a trap soul. They're trying to use the horse as a vessel to kill you. They want you off the property.

So it's all these really, you know, whether you believe it or not, the people that it happened to are 100% certain and they kind of don't care if you believe it or not. They're like, I know this happened and I know it's still there

and you have to watch out for it but it was amazing how many people responded when we put out the call going, has this ever happened to you? People were like, oh, absolutely. So could you argue to people that want to be on television?

Sure, but you're going to go on television for something that could potentially be like people look at you like you're insane. But they were so happy. They were so happy to tell their story. They were like, I've tried to explain this to people.

Now I can just show them the episode of the show. Yeah, we use our pets for something. I guess you could say they're controlled by something else, but I had a dog that went eight and one picking Monday night football winners. And we had a goldfish that finished, I think, 11th place in the Las Vegas super contest for picking NFL winners over the course of entire season. That's like a different kind of possession. That's a good possession that you can like use your, use your animal to make you some money on. Well, we wonder that, I mean, that's great. Like, that's like the plot of like an 80s movie like you know the dog like scratches the winning lottery tickets or something um but i think that

we all have this feeling that animals are just tuned into something because they'll predict when a tsunami's coming or the way they can kind of read your emotions or know what mood you're in before you come down the stairs like there's just some other frequency so the idea that something could get into it and be like oh i want to help these guys with their football picks someone from the past or some spirit is like, I know how I can help them through the goldfish, obviously. And it sounds so crazy. And then it keeps happening over and over and over. I think we love that idea.

I think we all would want to believe that these animals have some kind of magic ability because it sounds so insane in real life. But then when it goes eight and one in the football picks, obviously, that's like. Yeah. I mean, dogs, it's, they're interesting. Dogs saved Hollywood. Hollywood Warner Brothers, they were going to go bankrupt. and then there was a dog that came back

from World War I named Rentin 10 and he was so well trained it was a war dog and the soldier could get the dog to do anything and he became the biggest star in Hollywood and saved the box office literally movies were saved by a dog so they had a whole house for him and a whole thing like a whole trailer

is like it's a true story it's like around like 1917 or 18 when it's like is this thing going to work like the first major movie star we ever had was a dog so I think that people love you know relating these things to animals It's just, it's just interesting to think of like, what would you do with your pet, you know, suddenly turned against you and wasn't rabid. It was just something.

I think that's why rabies scares us. Yeah. On the flip side, son of Sam killer also saw he was being controlled by a dog with the devil in it. That's true. Yeah, absolutely. So it's not like it's that far out. But I know. And Eli, what I like about you and this maybe speaks to the horror genre as a whole is it's filled with some really.

fucked up people that have really dark, weird thoughts, but they're very positive and they're very proactive about like these weird things that they come up with. And they get really excited and they turn them into like really positive. They almost look at getting scared as being a fun thing to do. Like you were talking about coming downstairs and seeing your dog on the seat and you're like, oh, that my dog, what if it was just possessed by a dead child? Like that's kind of a fucked up thought to have, but it's also like a very creative thought to have. And if you lean into it and you turn it into something positive, then that's something like you've kind of found yourself in,

in this genre where that sort of thing is like celebrated and encouraged. And it's a really awesome community filled with people that are kind of like-minded like that. At any point, did you think like, hey, I've got all these weird thoughts about these things. Is that a bad thing? Or is that, are we sure that's a good thing that I'm having these weird creative thoughts? Oh, totally. I mean, the good things my dad's a psychiatrist and psychoanalyst was a professor at Harvard. And I grew up in Newton, Massachusetts, which at the time was like the safest city in America.

And it was like kind of like upper middle class, Jewish area. And all they talked about was in the Nazis. I mean, if you grew up, it was like Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust, Holocaust. Like we'd be eating dinner. And it's like, you know, if the Nazis showed up, I mean, my parents, it was like, like, you'd be turned into furniture. We could all be in an oven right now. Finish your carrots. You know, like that level of discussing the Holocaust.

And it gets into your head of like, wow, this. This is like if my grandparents hadn't gotten out of Poland or in Austria, like we would have gone in an oven. Like you just have this weird thought. So I always thought no matter what I think of, is it really worse than what the Nazis actually did? And I had asked my dad, I was like, why am I thinking all these crazy things? I was like the neighborhood babysitter.

I was the responsible kid. I was a camp counselor. I was like the kid that if the teacher had to leave for some crazy reason, they could leave me in charge of the class knowing like nothing crazy would happen um and i was like so why am i thinking about like chopping people up with a chainsaw and acts like i don't want to do that but i'm afraid of that happening and my father would say it's it's a very way to it's kind of like a really healthy way to exercise fear that you know and i've thought about this a lot like i talk to soldiers i mean i started getting messages and people on military bases that i think it was hostile and

cabin fever really hostile was hugely popular and i'd say why would you want to watch that after you're actually seeing people getting blown up in body parts. And, you know, for 90 minutes, they're allowed to be afraid. You know, in real life, we can't be scared. We can't, like, walk around. You know, you see that thing, that spot in your hand and be like, what is that? And go into a panic about it. You have to make a doctor's appointment and wait.

But, like, it's socially we're not allowed to be. It's like basically sports events and horror movies. The only place you're allowed to scream where it's socially acceptable. So, like, when you go through that drama of a football game, it's not just that you're watching your favorite team is that you're releasing all of these feelings of like whatever else is going on in your life and it's that exhaustion it's like a roller coaster ride so i think that thinking of the thoughts it's always you know like when you when you grow up in the safest city you're thinking like what if i could lose all

of this what's the worst thing it could happen so you can't let that paralyze you you have two choices you can either go okay that's not going to happen but or am i going to turn you can like let it stop you and never leave your house again or you can go okay that's a thought i'm afraid of it moving on or you can say, let me turn this into something creative. And I just chose the third thing. I loved horror movies. I love scary movies so much. I always looked at them like magic tricks. Like when I see a decapitation or eye being stabbed out and it gets you go, ah, like I just love that feeling. Not in real life, but in movies. It was my favorite thing in the world. And I just, I kept doing it. I mean, that's why like, you know, with my possessed pet, people are like, why would you do a show like that? You know,

why would you make that show? You made hostile. You made this. And I'm like, I like it. I had the idea, and it's an idea that I kept thinking about. So you do it and you put it out. I'm doing other stuff. I'm doing an urban legend, the TV series. It's going to start premiering on Friday. I'm not sure when this is dropping, but it's going to be on Friday the 28th on travel channel. But I loved urban legends growing up. I was so obsessed with, you know, waking up the bathtub full of ice with the kidneys and the scuba diver and the tree and the white, like I grew up like really into urban legends. So when the opportunity, they said, we're not going to continue the movies, but we want to continue the franchise as a TV series. I was like,

I'll do it. I'll take it, you know, so I'm producing that. So that's going to be on Discovery and Travel Channel. There's this VR project that I have in the Metaverse for with Vanessa Hudgens called Trick or Treat. They said, hey, do you want to do a VR? We want a Halloween short. I was like, I have an idea. I'd love to do something in VR and just it's a new medium. Like, I don't know what that's like. There's no rules yet. There's no rules for horror movies in VR. So why not try and create some and break new ground? So for me, I like to approach it sort of the same with the same level of enthusiasm that I had when I was a kid, but with kind of the mastery you have of having done it for for 20 years. But I also like to, you know, I know I have the long-winded

answer, but it's like I like to keep things exciting and I like to try new stuff. And, you know, in horror, it's very easy to repeat yourself, which is why after Green Inferno, I did knock-knock. I was like, I just need one drop of blood. I got to do a movie with no blood or doing House of the Clock in its walls. I need a kid's movie. I want to show that I can be scary and get a movie that my my brother's kids and the children can enjoy so they get into horror like a gateway a gateway drug movie um so i really you know i think it's really healthy and and a lot of people tell me like i think of all these sick thoughts you know there's one thing to think of it and turn into geoffrey dommer and you're actually eating people but most of the people i've known in horror that get

it out rob zombie and you know jordan peel or quentin like they're really the nicest nicest people the people that are the monsters are making the you know family friendly movies they're so desperate to appear wholesome the people that are totally like west craven was a meditator like toby hooper was the sweetest guy like the people that traumatized me in my childhood uh were just generally incredibly incredibly nice very kind of socially conscious just like nice people yeah oh just as a horror movie creator and director what are your thoughts on the jump scare and do you find that it's more of a because i love the concept of horror movies but the jump scares just always made me not try to watch it like growing up I wasn't that

big of a fan of horror movies and also you know I got nightmares a lot but then today like I go through a lot of wikipedias and read a lot of plots of horror movies and I find it quite entertaining but just like the whole jump scare aspect always kind of you know uh made me sort of avoid them but in your experience is the jump scare is it do you personally enjoy the jump scare where it's just like pure adrenaline something happens jumps out at you or do you prefer doing like longer more insidious scares that sort of pop out in a longer term in the plot of the movie well that's the great question and i think it really you know determines it's it's like what's an ingredient for a joke you know that's like there's no you sort of know but you can't really distill it down to

one thing does it have to be inappropriate a little racy like like what are the things that make you laugh. The thing about a jump scare, like a laugh, is that it's a truly involuntary response. You know, like that. And when it's earned, when it's like someone gets you, it can be a great release. Because it's basically

like, you're like a carnival barker and you got the audience. After a jump scare, everyone laughs. You got me. If you do it again, people are like, oh, you don't have any other tricks. And you do it like three times. It's like, oh, you're insecure. It's like you can sense that the filmmakers are out

of ideas. So I noticed this in Cabin fever. I was so worried that I was going to lose the audience. I put in a jump and I did a couple of them. And then I did them at the end. I'm like, eh, we went too long without a scare. I'll throw in a jump. And I watched the movie in a theater. And I was like, I over did it. I think I had four or five jump scares. So in Hostile, I don't know if I had any or maybe one, but I tried to do no jump scares in Hostel because I was like, this has to be about tension and psychology and building things up and, you know, dread. I I really, I was much more into building the sense of dread. And there's nothing that happens scary kind of for the first 45 minutes of the movie.

So what I noticed was people were like, you have to have a scare every 10 minutes. I'm like, no, you don't. Like, just let the audience start to worry why hasn't this director scared me yet? What's going on? Whatever they're holding back must be so terrifying that that annoyance and irritation turns into dread and patience. And you can tell when you're in the hands of a really good director. You're like, I watched a TV show Severance.

And for the first two episodes, it didn't click in, but it was so good. I was like, something's going on. And whatever they're holding back is so good that I just, I've got to do it. And by episode three, I was hooked by the end, I was like, this is the best TV show I've seen. It's incredible. So I think that there is, you know, you want to feel like the director's confident in what they're doing and that you're at the hands of a madman. Like when I watched Last House in the Left and Texas Chainsaw Masker and Cannibal

Holocaust. I was like, whoever directed this clearly is in prison right now because like lunatics made this movie. You want a little bit of that feeling with the audience? But I think if you overdo it with a jump scare, you lose your audience because it's annoying. It gives you a headache. It's like a fire explosion at a concert. It's awesome when it happens, but like three or four times you get a headache. You know, it's like a gunshot's going to make everyone jump. But if you keep doing it over and over, you give a headache. So for me, I think that the jump scare can be really fun, but it's got to be earned and you can't overdo it. Yeah, so what are the ingredients?

If you're writing a jump scare, what does that look like in a screenplay? Gosh, it's really hard because you can't go, you know, you can't go and this get you like turn around and they're right there. You usually do like dot, dot, dot, and then a space, then all caps. He's right behind them in the mirror, you know.

They like turns the corner. Like, but the truth is it's, it's misdirection. It's like what magicians do. They're like, look over here, look over here, and then something else is coming that way. You know, you're telling the audience, is coming. This is coming. As soon as you turn back, you know, the person's, you know, the ghoul is right there in your face. So it's just, it's one of those things we're writing, you know, when you're

writing a novel, you can write it scary. You get a lot more words in the page. If you write a script and it's got too much like paragraphs, people are like, I don't want, you know, no one in Hollywood wants to read. They're like, what's my line? How much dialogue? First thing to do is they're like, like, how many pages is this thing? How much time is it going to take me to read it? Can someone else read it and tell me if it's good. So, you know, I've, I've found that my, my films are always play better than they read. And a lot of the times people read the script and go, what the hell is this? Nobody wants to see a movie about this. That's how, or like, you can't, the number one reaction when people read my scripts, go, you can't do that. No way. No way. No one will release that. No one will see it.

You'll get canceled. All that stuff. That's what I'm like, okay, this is going to be good. Like when people read it and have that kind of reaction that it's like dangerous to even think about making it, that's when I go, okay, that's when I lean into it. I go, all right, here we go. I still think you're fucked up for the scene in hostel with the eyeball. That really, that fucked me for a long time. I still think about that. I don't really get, I don't get that scared during scary movies, but I'm curious from your perspective, is there a movie that you've watched that, that affected you so deeply on a scary level that it changed, it stayed with you for longer than most of the others that you've seen like what's what's this one scariest movie i guess

in your opinion of all time well it's interesting because because scares are like the haunted house is never a scary the second time through so you're never going to be as purely scared as the very first time you saw a movie so a lot of times people be like that's the scariest movie ever seen they go back and rewatch and they go uh wasn't as scary as i remember whereas like comedies i watch caddyshack over and over and it'll always get funnier dramas i can enjoy stuff but horror movies they lose the very thing you're there for is the scare and the potency of that scare it's like a clone that like dissipates every single time but you see other other things kind of rise to the surface um but i always judge a scary movie by how scared was i the very first time

i saw it and the very i mean the exorcist traumatized me i was six when i saw it which is way too young and i thought i was going to get possessed by the devil i thought it was like under my bed i could picture like the devil coming up from hell because it was in her bedroom it's like Like there was no way to stop it. So I was so scared that was going to happen to me. And then Alien I saw when I was eight years old and I threw up in the theater. I was so nervous. I threw up.

And that started to try to me vomiting in movies, which is the whole thing. Because my parents banned me from seeing horror movies because I kept puking in all of them in the theater. But Alien also made me want to be a director. I mean, it was eight. It was like before anyone was into that, I was like, you know, it said produced by. And I said, what does the producer, producer, productor do? My dad's like, that's a producer. He raises the money.

And then it's directed by Ridley Scott. And I was like, what's the director do? He said, well, the director gets to spend the money and tell everybody what to do. I'm like, I want to do that. And then I remember Kubrick's movie said produced and directed by. And I was like, oh, that's interesting. So like, at your bar mitzv, the rabbi is like, you have to announce what you want to do. And I said, I'm going to be a producer director.

And he's like, well, which is it? I said, it's both. He goes, why do you want to be both? I go, because that's the only way to retain control of your cut. I mean, I was 12. And the rabbi is like, yeah, I don't know what you just said, kid, but I'm going to, whatever. So, you know, those movies like evil dead traumatized me, nightmare on Elm Street. So you go back now and you watch them and they're not as scary.

Like I went to see the exorcists in the theater and people were laughing because they're smoking in the hospitals. It's like, Ms. McNeil, we were probably with your daughter. It's like, doctor, what's wrong with my daughter? It's like, let me tell you about your daughter. And like people, you can't even hear what they were saying because the concept of doctors just lighting up a cigarette in the hospital hallway as soon as they walk out of the operating room is just so comedic. So I remember my mom telling me, she's like, the only movie I won't allow you to watch is House of Wax because she had seen it when she was eight and it traumatized her. And I watched

it. It was like, Vincent Price and how, like, how is this scary? So I think we're all kind of victims of stuff that we see in our own, in our own childhood and affects you at different times in your life. So wait, go back to the puking during horror movies thing. That's fascinating to me that you chose a career path in a genre that made you physically ill because you had an actual reaction to how scared you were watching these movies. How long did it, did that last? Like, when did you stop puking from horror movies? I stopped at Raiders of the Lost Ark. It started when I was like eight, an alien. And then I puked in John Adams, Dracula. I puked in invasion of the body snatchers. The big one was I had a running vomit in Outland with heads. I was running down the aisles of the chestnut Hill

cinema and it roped like over five people my mom followed me about she was like no more horror movies no more and then raiders came out when i was like 10 and everyone's everyone's talking about raiders but you couldn't see it because my brother's like yeah faces melt my mom's like you're going to puke and i went and i saw it and i was fine i came out i was like i didn't puke i didn't and from there i started you know for my birthday or bar mitts for whatever i wanted liquid latex i started reading dick smiths dick smith's makeup book and i was watching pieces i was just like what's the most hardcore thing i can watch and then then I would deconstruct how did they do it. And then I wanted to like film deaths and throat

slits and scalping. I was watching maniac. And then it just didn't affect me. I just saw it as a magic trick. And it's interesting. I had my brain scan for discovery years ago. And they found out that like they showed me imagery. Like they really did this full thing to see which part of my brain activates it what. And my frontal lobe shuts off. Like it won't like I train myself to shut off violent imagery. Like I can't process it because I get too, I get too emotionally affected by it. Not that if I saw someone get shot, I wouldn't care, but that there is like a weird defense mechanism that my brain developed from horror movies that I can watch this stuff in a way that other people can't because literally, literally my frontal lobe was shut when I see

something too violent, won't even let me, like, process it emotionally. Shout out to your parents for continuing to take you to go see horror movies after like the first three times you, right? Right. Yeah, but I mean, it's great. Yeah, it's interesting because sometimes the things that scare us the most that we're most uncomfortable with end up becoming the things that we're most passionate about. and the things that we care about more later on in life

because you're naturally attracted to that. I mean, I was terrified of sharks. My biggest fear is being eaten by a shark. And then I went diving with them and realized they were like dogs and personalities and now we're killing all of them. I made a documentary about it called Finn that's on Discovery Plus,

which highly recommend if you're interested watching. I tried to make it watchable. But basically sharks kill from bites between six and 12 people a year. We're killing now. The number might be as high as $250 million a year. And it's vaccines. It's super.

Like they're going to be gone in 10 to 15 years. They won't be able to repopulate. It takes 11 years, them to read sexual maturity. They have like seven or eight pups. It's just, we're just wiping them out, like 18, 20,000 an hour. And people are all like, it's fishing, it's legal. It's like it's really terrible. And they keep the ocean clean.

They basically are the doctors of the sea. So these creatures that I was so terrified of, which are great whites and hammerheads and tire shots, now I'm like passionately, passionately defending and speaking up for them. So yeah, you're right. Big T, do you have a question? Yeah. Is there something you have ever wanted to put in a movie that either yourself or someone else was like, that's too fucked up, we can't do that? Yeah, but I've gotten to do it every time. I've never backed down on it. And my argument is this. I go, I don't know. I go, let's try it. I go, why don't we show it to an audience? Because for me, the test is, do you want to keep watching the movie? If that's the test, it's not. my taste. It's not I'm trying to be the goryest person alive. It's not, I'm trying to be

outgross everybody. It's, is it just not fun anymore? Like, does it cross a line? Like, they say that I always say like audiences want to have their asses kicked, but they don't want to be kicked in the balls. And that's not a good fit. It's fun when some movie kicks your ass, but when you like love a kid and then they like slit the kid's throat and it's over. And I had that thing. I did that at the end of Hostel where basically, you know, there was like a kid and he was like screaming and james and i basically slid a child's throat at the end of the movie and the guy from the studio is like well why don't we do another ending where he kills the bad guy instead of an innocent child and i go and i was so concerned with my reputation and being like

so hardcore i'm not i can do the the scariest move the most fucked up ending ever and i go all right and i shot the ending and the audience went crazy for it and they got scared in a different way because what it made was it made the audience complicit in the violence all the stuff in 45 minute mark when Josh is being killed and you can hear a pin drop at the end the audience was rabidly cheering for violence and that had a residual effect of well we're all capable of this there's something in our DNA that everyone is capable of cheering for violence as entertainment as opposed to look elize the darkest director ha ha like I just thought they're right like but but it wasn't instead of being combative and saying you know fuck you're an idiot I'm the artist I was like all right let's try it I don't know And we showed both movies to both audiences. And I actually found that the reshoot was the correct ending. And I remember talking to Quentin. And I was like, they want me to change it.

And he goes, Eli, did you ever consider the possibility? I'm just saying this. I don't know. Did you ever consider a possibility that maybe there is a better ending? And I went, no. He goes, well, maybe you should think about it. Maybe you'll come up with something better. And I was like, huh, all right.

And so, yeah, I've been in that situation. but usually you do a bake-off where my argument is always like, you know what, like shooting the drug dealer in Death Wish, people were like, you can't do this, you can't do this. I go, okay, we're going to shoot it and let's show it to an audience. And if the audience rejects it, we'll know overwhelmingly. But if the audience, and the audience went crazy for it. It was the highest testing movie MGM ever had. So, so it's just like, it's things like that where you just, it's easier if you don't make it a artist versus studio or, you know, director versus financier. You just go, like the Unjoke and Cabin Fever, people were like, you can't do this. You can't do this. And I said, let's watch it with an audience. If the audience wholesale rejects it, we'll take it out. But I think it's going to work. And it did. So usually when you have the attitude of let's try, and if it doesn't work, I'll take it out. People are very willing to go with you. When you're combative and abrasive and you're like challenge and butt heads, that's when you don't get your way. All right. Awesome. Yep. Billy, you have probably my last question. Something I always very

interested and curious about was when you're filming a horror movie especially in a remote location like the green inferno was how difficult was it dealing with the location people at the location and it sounds like the shoot might have been a little difficult because you're dealing with so many the climate uh you know the heat and just being in the middle of the jungle like how difficult is it to shoot on those locations it's extremely difficult but that's part of the fun of the challenge is you know you're going for some verner herzog experience like fitz caraldo or giri the wrath of god it was literally farther than i found out that herzog had shot aguirre near there and i went farther so i was like i want to be farther than herzog like the farthest anyone had taken a film crew um and it's hard

you know you're in 110 degree heat with the villagers who've never seen a camera before and they were farmers and super nice i mean you're getting stuff that looks like nothing else but the challenge of getting there. I mean, there was a flood in the Andes mountains two days away from where we were, but the river rose. So we were like in these boats that were like spinning. I mean, the boats that are in the movie we used to get tuned from the set. It was waking up at five in the morning, driving an hour to the river and Chazutas, getting in the boat in Chazutas and going to Kayao or an hour and a half. I mean, some days are beautiful. But when that river rose and the boats almost flipped, I thought, this is it. This is going to be like that twilight zone moment where you kill everyone. And then the body

parts we couldn't ship body parts and through like like customs took all of the eyeballs and stuff and the got because i guess shipping body parts into peru is a problem um and so we sent all this stuff in but we couldn't get any of it so we had to go to the supermarket and get like grapes and eyeballs and just sort of improvise with a lot of things but you know it's it's directing you know kubrick said directing is having a vision and compromising it 100 percent it's like how good of an improv jazz musician are you because it basically what makes you good director is what you can pull off when literally everything goes wrong. Yeah. What do you got? And how do you communicate like you're doing horror and how do you sort of convey to especially the villagers like what exactly

is happening in in when directing? Because like if you're like showing graphic depictions of people getting eaten and all these scenes that are so violent and you have like, you know, children around. Like how do you ensure that, you know, people don't get the wrong idea? Like how does that? Yeah. It's a very good question. And we had a approach. Peruvian producer. You do with locals. You have local producers. So you have someone Peruvian that went to the village with a generator, a television, and a DVD player. And they called me and they said, we got permission for all 300 people in the village gathered around the television and the DVD player and the generator to watch the movie. And they said, we got permission.

And I went, great. Would you show them like, E.T. Wizard of Oz? They said, Cannibal Holocaust. And I was like, that's a movie with like a hand abortion. I mean, dicks being cut off. Like, that movie is the fucking mother of all cannibal films. And I said, how could you show like children? I have photos of it. Like, and they go, no, no, don't worry. They thought it was a comedy. Like, they didn't know, like, the movie to them is just like, it was all a joke.

They thought it was hilarious. Like, they know what stories are. Yeah. They tell stories. They know what theater is like, they know how to make up a story. And they go, this is make believe. And everyone loved it. And they laughed.

They weren't like corrupted by some outside opinion. They thought it was hilarious. But I said, why would you show Cannibal Holocaust? They go, we didn't want to show them, Wizard of Oz. And then you show up with the heads on the spikes. So what you get is kids playing soccer with the heads, playing with the guts. Like they loved it. The villagers had so much fun.

And so did the actors. And, you know, you just wanted to be real. I go, okay, now you're running over the hill and you love their hair. Like, everybody wants to touch their hair. You've never seen blind hair before. And I remember before the take, like the guys pulling the kids out of the canoes, they were like, they were like, is it okay? No, the actress was like, no, really do it.

Like, we would do it. And then we'd yell cut and we'd all be like hugging and laughing. I mean the first day that we were about to shoot it was like 100 degrees with heads on the spikes 100 villagers coming over the thing all the kids are tied up in the canoes and they're starting to drift out into the river we got to shoot and these pontoon boats pull up

and they're filled with Christian missionaries and they start like and they're like there to convert villages and they're like the devil is here like we found it like there's heads on spikes those kids set up like we actually found like and they start singing songs about Jesus and then the producers and of course

I want to film all of it and they're like no Eli this is like this is cultural like you got to back the fuck up and shut up let us handle it and they went out and they were like a mix from peru and a super church in texas and they were like it's actually eli roth is making here is here making a horror movie and they were so mad they wanted to disrupt the shooting but luckily it was so hot the sun took care of it for the sunday left but it was like being teamsters outside honking so you know that's kind of the fun and you know whenever you go on location it's always an adventure you never know what you're going to get but that's what the good stuff is. I love that. They probably went back to Texas and they were like telling stories to

their parishioners being like, yeah, we encountered Satan in the jungle. And you know what? We still, yet we pressed on and we got a couple conversions while we were down there. Yeah, exactly. Oh, for sure. For sure. All right. Well, thank you very much for joining us. You can find it right now on Discovery Plus. It's Eli Roth presents my possessed pet. And I think when it speaks to a little bit. Urban legend. Yeah, yeah. Urban legend starts, is starting Friday the 28th. It's really fun. It's on Travel Channel. and Discovery Plus. It's anthology. It's like Twilight Zone. They're so much fun. The directors did amazing, amazing jobs. They're really scary. That's very cool. Yeah, I am a, I'm a fan of urban

legends. I always like the moment when I tell somebody about an urban legend and you see that look in their eyes where they're like, oh shit, I've actually told people that this happened to a friend of mine where you like, oh, of course. You shatter that that illusion that they're the ones that had like a really great story, you know? Yeah. Well, it's got to be, it's got to be crazy enough. They're like, there's no way, but just real enough. It's like, that could actually happen. And it's got to be the story that someone's brother swears he knows a guy who swears that it happens to them. That's that's sort of the qualification for it. They stole the suitcase and inside the suitcase was actually a dead dog. You know that one? Yeah. That's that's that's that's a

classic. Sewer gator. Yeah, the sewer gator. Because they're actually, we're gator. Yeah. Flushing down. We did the scuba diver in the tree with a couple's hiking. They look up and like the guy was scuba diving got scooped up by the helicopter to put out a forest fire and dumped in the tree. That's one we do. They're hilarious. We'll check it out on Travel Channel. It's Urban Legend. It's coming out Friday, October 28th, and it's going to be streaming on Discovery Plus and My Possessed Pet as well as streaming on Discovery Plus. Eli Roth. Thank you, man. I appreciate it. Thanks, guys. Good talking to you. Thanks. Nice to meet you. Have a good one. Eli Roth was brought to you by Ridge Wallet. Ridge Wallet is an ultra-slim minimalist wallet.

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Just get that shit out before everybody else does. Also, Billy, yeah, you got drunk. Chris Long got you drunk. He bought for the drinks. And also, that does technically count. Yeah, he clearly got you drunk. And also, Billy, you said that you had to record literally less than 12 hours later. I don't know if you know how clocks work.

Well, I had to technically I had to start watching football less than 12 hours. You had to start watching football less than 12 hours after that. Yes, that part is true. Yeah, that's what I meant. yes so the recording came much much later yeah but you had you had to start watching football but you could record without watching so that is part of what i i meant people know my client my client thank you he he had to watch football in order to record it is therefore part of the recording process which did start 12 hours after the okay that's fair that's fair so billy had to

had bill it got weird it got yeah it was it was starting to like i don't know it was fun Maybe just let's support this sentence right now. All right. So that was Billy's Saturday night. That should be actually a segment. How was your Saturday with Billy? I like that. Yeah.

It was crazy. It was like a two-parter. We had it in the ad and then we just came back from the interview with it. Yep. That's a circle of life. Okay. So candy, let's talk candy. It's all nominate candies.

Should we do each our top three or should we do a draft? Because like the, I hate when we have to like, do like popularity contest type like I want to hear what your guys favorite candy is all right I like that so one one chocolate one non chocolate yeah no I don't like that yes top three what would what would you put in your bag oh yeah but yeah but like chocolate and candy are kind of different just like no chocolate is candy no but but they're different she's bar not candy yes no they are but chocolate and non chocolate candy or you need to delineate yeah it's like dessert versus like soda it's no it's called

candy bar yeah no no it's bad but if you have a pillowcase what are the three cannies you want in your bag okay that's a good that's a good way to look at like what am i what am i sorting through to get to my first selection right what are you hiding from your parents what do you not trading with your friends i've got mine go ahead big t sour skittles kit cat resas sour skittles is a bad but okay why i like sour skittles are just trash no bad bad take the sat i could see that I like Sour Skittles. I haven't had to do Sour Skittles. I was not going to think about that because I don't think anybody hands out Sour Skittles.

I know. They're hard to find. I like, I'm kind of old school with it. I like a nice Milky Way. Yeah. Milky Way dark specifically. Like the dark chocolate. What's that smirk, Billy?

Where are you smirking? You've got, that's such a fucking smirk you've got. Why am I allowed to smirk? Why are you smirking, though? It's distracting. What? The smirk that Billy has is like, oh, well, I actually, there's a study that I just read on Reddit that says, like, you like Milky Way, you're lucky gay. No, I wasn't reacting to what you were saying.

Okay. Sometimes I say jokes in my head and make myself laugh. Well, you should say them out loud on the podcast that you're doing. I don't want to interrupt you. I appreciate that. So Milky Way, dark. Are you smirking? Just say it.

I'm pre-bonging him. No. What? I don't know. Okay. Milky Way Dark is my 1-1, I believe. My second, I really, I like Twix. Yep.

It's got the candy, crunch, just got the caramel in there. It's like an upgraded Kit Kat is the way I look at it, Twix. And then third, I'm going to go with Sour Patch Kids. Kind of along the same lines as the Sour Spittles, but Sour Patch Kids, I prefer. I used to be big into Sour Patch Kids. They haven't done it for me recently. They can get chewy sometimes. Sour Patch Watermelon is where it's at.

Ooh, that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. We're about the sour warheads. That's too much. That's too much of an experience. It's a novelty, yeah. It hurts like the back of your jowls.

I'm not a fan of the sour, sensitive palate, I guess. I'd go crunch bar, Reese's, gummy candies. That's a whole category. I know, but like, what do we really like I'm talking about like gummy worms gummy bears all those gummies that are just

different just say gummy bears yeah well gummy worms I are also good which one's better the worms yeah okay so gummy worms that's your first uh crunch bar also slept on crunch bar is amazing very slept on especially bunch of crunches hundred grand bar too

that's my one one a crunch bar you go to the 7-11 you get gate raids like in a water in a crunch bar before practice, that's, that bumps. So 100 grand, that is a slept on one. What's in the 100 grand again? It's chocolate on the outside and then a rice crispy layer or, yeah, rice layer and then a whole caramel layer and then a cookie similar to a Twix. Okay.

That's my one one. And if you get a big 100 grand, it's just two small 100 grants. And I kind of like that trickery where it's like you get a kind of too too. and one rather than one long 100 grand it's kind of tricky to say though it's like I have two 100 I have 200 grand but I don't when you say 100 or wait now I'm getting tripped up when I refer to the candy I say 100 grand you don't say like a 100 grand in my opinion you say 100 grand I have 100 grand yeah I'm about to eat 100 grand uh-huh one those are my one one those are my favorite candy of all time I like those and then I'm going to

to go I'm going to go Twix too I think and then I'm kind of now I feel like I'm kind of recycling other people's answers Twix and then three is either watermelon sour patch or sour gumming worms specifically sour you guys all miss so hard what what you guys so I mean it comes a bad take no no no no no the one and two one and two are Reese's is in Kik Kat they're just Reese's is great they're there are Reese is elite that's like it's probably number one You guys miss peanut M&Ms. Ew.

I like peanut butter M&Ms. Those are good, but peanut M&M's slap. So you like the peanut. You like the nut. Yeah. Well, all right, Billy, relax. No, but. Yeah.

I'm just saying you like the crunch of the nut. I think a peanut M&M in the refrigerator, you just leave it there for like, you know, maybe a couple hours. A single peanut? Elite. No, like the package. Uh-huh. I think peanut M&M's are elite.

Can we agree that there's certain candies that are almost analogous? What do you mean? Kit Kat, Crunch Bar, I think are almost. analogous. No, different. No, it's very, crunch bar is very thin compared to the...

Same concept, chocolate with the crunch. No, it's different. Kit Kat's also all about the experience as well. It comes with four, you split them apart. Okay, but all intensive purposes, I think that it's...

They may have similar ingredients. Right, right, but I think it's kind of the same. I almost, like, I'm indifferent to the Kit Kat versus a crunch bar. I look at them almost the same to eat Their ratios are completely different Right, but I don't think it's enough to like differentiate Like would you put something

Let's say we're ranking Crunch Bar Kit Kat Twizzlers Oh Twizzlers I love Twizzlers I love Twizzlers Twizzler bites I also think Snickers deserves an honorable mention Yeah honestly I'm a big Snickers girl

So there's some candy bars that just do too much And like I'm just like yo Also a take five does too much I'll say that. Like a milky way also is it do too much? And make it a straw. Yeah, you bite both ends off and make it a straw. Of course.

That's why I do in the movie theaters and I drink the big coax with a big thing of Twizzlers. And I bite both sides and use the Twizzlers as a straw for the Coke. It's a great time. Also, I've never practiced this, but apparently Twizzlers have so much gluten in them. If you put Twizzlers in the oven, they turn into like almost like a mini loaf of bread. That may be a dumb take on my part. That you can bake Twizzlers into bread? Not bread, but like a little, like a little.

like a little almost like a cupcake sounds like a tic-tock thing not even tic-tok yeah i don't i didn't that's actually i i believe it but like that doesn't make me do you guys remember the mini you guys remember the mini m&ms that came in the tube oh those are those are good yeah do they still make those i think so yeah at the you can get them up the walmart you can eat that whole tube and just one oh dude those were loaded do you get some candy go to the go to the m&m store i just untap something for big t you should have seen the way he looked at me I want to go downstairs, get some candy? Yeah, can we get some candy to start recording after we get candy?

Like, actually, this gets like a... No, let's finish the show. Let's finish the show. Yeah, but then people are going to be like, oh, you've got to pay extra for that. People are going to enjoy us. Munchin? Yeah, but I don't want to diet. No, we're doing...

I have a basketball game later. Christmas app, guys. Carbo lab. We do need to update on the Christmas apps. How's everyone doing? I'm just losing weight. Isn't that what you want? Yeah, but like, I'm all like,

I went to the gym the other day. Whoa. I'm coming back from many injuries right now. Yeah, how is that? Ever since Billy shot me up with research chemicals. You've been doing better? I don't know. I did arm curls the other day for the first time in a while.

It's still a little bit sore. So I don't think I'm 100% yet. But yeah, I'm going to hit the gym again today. By Christmas time, I will have at least one ab. Maybe two. The line. Maybe two abs. Are any of you in shape?

Are any of you on track to get the V by Christmas? Yeah. What? You're going to have the V? Like the deep V? The Dick V? Yeah. Billy?

Yeah, but I'm working on the lower, like that never really goes away. It's the, like, it's the covering on the abs. It's been a couple years since I had the V. I'm not. Because that's way easier for you guys to get than a girl. Yes. And, I mean, abs in general, but. I don't think I'm, I'm not.

on track for that but maybe by maybe by the summer if i stopped drinking beer if i stopped drinking beer if i stopped drinking beer and all alcohol for two weeks i would be shredded that's so sick that makes you drink so much no no it's just like that's just how it works no that's so fucking cool it's fire yeah but like i can't but you can't because like that's a chill like you want to drink beers over the boys on weekends damn fuck you know if i didn't if i didn't drink beer i'd be like a genius I'd be a feral animal. It's the only thing keeping me domesticated. If I stop, if I stopped drinking beer, I would weigh 110 pounds and I would be...

No, I'd actually be a higher weight because I'd have one muscle mass. Okay. All right, so let's do a graphic real quick. Best Halloween candies. One, candy corn. Two. Should we do a bait one? Yeah, yeah, that's a terrible.

Yeah, okay. One candy corn. Two. But that's not, that's not... Tootsie rolls. It's not. Not number one, but candy corn is good. I also love Tutsi rolls.

Tutsi rolls are disgusting. That's what I'm saying. That's the whole point of this. Or like a wild, like a, or like a wankas, wankas, not, no, because I like those, but like a wanka candy that everyone was like, what? Remember when Wanka came out of candies? Yeah. Those are cool.

What were those balls? Everlasting gobstopper. Oh, yeah. Dude, yeah. There's also a nut. Let's go. Jawbreakers. Mm.

Those are kind of nice, though. Let's go number one, candy corn. Yeah, that's just, that just gets the people go. Number two, Tutsi rules. But that's, people are, and we'll go number three. Like something really bad. Black licorice? Yeah, licorice.

Number four, good and plenty. How does that sound? You got to have a five. You can't just do four. Hot tamales. Or do you want to do like five hot tamales. Yeah. That's a good list.

It's all like old people food. Yeah, that's a good list. Billy, why were you saying that whole time? No, what are people going to say about this list? Because it almost seems too vanilla Like we need one that's like Like that's like wait what the fuck that like elicits a reaction Like when people like top candies of hell

You're not extreme enough dude Yeah Put Reese's at three No You're saying I should get worse with it Make it like one Like one But then one like cyanide capsules

Yeah or like Laser blades What are you asking me to do? I don't know I'm trying to figure it out Like Should we put put one real thing in there to throw them off

or are you saying make it worse? I'm saying, circus peanuts. I'm saying we're doing four. Five. I just did five. Okay, four real ones, then one like wild one. We're saying, what? Well, then that's not good. A troll. Yeah, we're just

going to stick with this five. No, but then people will be like, nope, nope. What's up with the? The dye has been cast. What's up with the black licorish? The dye has been cast. Okay. Anything else you want to get into on macrodosing? this week?

We missed Arian this week. We did, yeah. He got sick. Yeah, he got sick. His daughter got him sick. We should play the song again. I was just going to say, I'll add it to the end of the episode. Instead of like the normal outro, it'll just be the knock, knock.

Knock, knock, the song of the summer. It's actually a bang. I was thinking we should do a music video for it. Yeah. With his kids? Like when we go to Texas. It's a great song. It could become a Halloween anthem.

Yeah. Coast to coast. All right. So, in conclusion. conclusion, somebody come to my house for Halloween because I'll give you on crustables, kids. Except for Big Tee, he doesn't want to see the air vents. No, Big T doesn't want to, Big T wouldn't be caught dead in my poor apartment.

Yeah, no, I think I'm too poor to go over there. Yeah, that's what it is. He has the machine when you step in that automatically, like, shrink wraps your shoes that rich people have. I mean, it's pretty sick. Wait, is that a thing? Yeah, apparently you know about this thing more than I do, I went to...

Don't play stupid. I've never seen it. You've got that in your eyes. I went with Jersey Jerry to Tracy Morgan's house. He has it. Like, we could not step on his floor until we did it. That's wild. Yeah.

Is it like skin tight or is... Yeah, you put your foot on it and it heats the plastic and it wraps around your shoes. It's like a swift or wet jet for your foot, basically. He had all marble flooring. It was crazy. This guy with a key to Gramercy Park acting like he doesn't know what the shoe thing is. I've never seen or heard about the shoe thing ever. Look at all.

Look up like shoe, like shoe wrap for house. I will shoe wrap for house. I'm on it. I just made kind of a niche like you have to live in New York City joke to understand that. It makes me want to kill myself. Yeah, that was funny. Yeah, I had no idea what Big T was even. Sounds like Big T is like low key wealthy.

Not even close. Because I don't know about all these rich people things. He'll allow you to go into his apartment, but he'll just make you take like the help entrance, which is by the service elevator. No, that makes sense. Yeah, you can you can see why. That's how I got it. see my butler's pantry how about that loves to play both sides could you just um wear a name tag while you're in there and a lanyard and don't make eye contact with any of the other people in the

building thanks you can't go in through the dormant entrance you have to go in the back with the deliveries off to hang out on the the private roof deck i don't i don't know what you think my apartment looks like it'll let you let you stay you know those big water, those water tanks that are on top of buildings. Oh, yeah. So next to his outdoor patio, there's a kind of place you can stand on one of those.

Got it. And like, that's where you go. Yeah. That's where I was. No, you all be confined to the outdoor space. Biggie thinks I live in like the Great Gatsby. He thinks he walks in, you've got a butler with a tray of champagne flutes. Welcome, sir, to East Egg.

East Egg. I need to do a better job of being. being rich. That's what I think that's what my problem is. Apparently. Yeah. No, I'm a really, I'm a bad. I'm new money. Yeah. Yeah. They like down on me. I'm like, uh, what's her name? Kathy Bates on the Titanic. Yeah. Remember her? Yeah. She rocked. Kathy Bates rocks. Yeah. All right. We will see you guys next Tuesday on nanodosing. We have a very special guest coming next week, actually. Big time guest. I'm very excited about him. Um, he's, he teaches me how to control Billy. Perfect.

All right. We'll see you next week. Love you guys. Knock, knock. Who got the counter for the kids? Knock, knock. Who got the counter for the kids? Knock, knock.

Who got the counter for the kids? Knock, knock. For the kiss, knock, knock. Trick-or-treating, welcome into Halloween. Don't be scared when you start to hit screams Give me candy, we don't want no problems Give it to me, or you're gonna see a monster Put some candy on your doorstep, doorstep

I'm surprised there isn't more yet Where is all the Reese's? I'm about to tell us face of pieces Yeah Where is all your kick-cats, huh? Open up your baggie, let me get that, get that I want everything I like, Open up and take a little bite, mobbing all night, walking down the streets through the mist.

I think I'm gonna treat you with some tricks. Say it like this. Here's a little tip. Give me how you can't stop acting like a witch. Knock, knock, who got the candy for the kids? Knock, knock, who got the candy for the kids? Knock, knock, who got the candy for the kids? Knock knock, knock, knock, knock, knock, knock.

Who got the candy for the kids? Who got the candy for the kids? Knock, knock. Who got the candy for the kids? Knock, who got the candy for the kids? I'm not to show these trick-or-treaties what it is. Gabblings and ghouls and the were-roes moon. Zammies from the graveyard coming here soon.

Skeletons dancing with the ghosts in the streets where the mongies and the vampires feast. Blood dripping from the candy bag. Bees coming on my mouth like I'm candy man, huh? Hocus, focus. Are you in the superstition? Vroom, brum, on a broom, they be dipping. Witches and wikins and devils' disguises. Coming from the smoke while arises.

I get real happy when it's Halloween night. I'mma pump the town full of fright. Right? We don't want no candy corn. We don't want no liquorish. We don't want no candy corn. We don't need no liquorish. Knock knock.

Who got the candy for the kids? Knock, knock. Who got the candy for the kids? Knock, knock. Who got the candy for the kids? Knock knock, knock, knock. Knock, knock. Knock, knock.

Who got the candy for the kids? Knock, knock. Who got the candy for the kids? Knock, knock. Who got the candy for the kids? I'm gonna have to show these trick and treat is what it is. I don't know.