Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - How Stone Cold Steve Austin Got Into Professional Wrestling

Episode Date: April 27, 2023

On today’s episode the guys are joined by the legendary Stone Cold Steve Austin. Stone Cold tells us how he got into professional wrestling and what it takes to be one of the greats. Plus we have Robbie Fox joining us to give us some more back story on wrestling and why he’s always been so fascinated by it. (00:02:00) Black Mirror (00:06:49) Hangovers (00:09:56) Flying (00:13:20) NFL Flights (00:17:55) Aquarium Amount Of Water (00:22:34) D3 College Football (00:36:34) Tee-d Off (PFT Joins) (00:37:47) Tucker Carlson (00:42:12) Golf (00:58:35) Military Football Game (01:08:03) WWE (Robbie Fox) (01:09:09) North Korea (01:19:45) Origin of Professional Wrestling (01:26:46) Why Robbie Loves Professional Wrestling (01:36:06) Vince McMahon vs. God (01:42:55) Wrestling Eras (02:07:42) Stone Cold Steve AustinYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. But where I'm at right now, I'd say, you do it. I'll walk and I'll break my business. That would honestly be a challenge in and of itself to just hang out with Billy while he's drunk over the course of a baseball. Absolutely. Most people would not survive that challenge. Many have.

And enjoyed it. It doesn't sound like a fun challenge. But welcome back to macrodoza. I'm filling in for PFT because he's late. Ooh, we can fuck with him. He's late. He's dealing with a couple things right now. Oh, shit, yeah.

Damn, I forgot about that. Damn. he'll be joining us shortly so we got everybody in studio i am remote um got a good show lineup for you today but uh billy got to take care of some business first go ahead bill yeah i just want to talk to you guys about our presenting sponsor three chi we all love three chi you guys love three chi of all things in life one of the best has to be getting high wherever you want whenever you want without the paranoia of consuming some sketchy black market buck what's the best way to do that with three chi of course three three

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television series that has ever been. I'm talking about the wire the dragon show game of thought whatever. You name it. Black Mirror is killing all that shit. I'm so fucking hype about this dog. I do love that show. I haven't seen this. That's that's exciting. Black Mirror was one of the first shows that I smoked weed and tweaked out because I was watching it. It scared me so bad. Which one What episode did you say? I was binging it And I took

I This was probably one of the last times I ever smoked weed I like took an edible And then like I was watching all these episodes in a row And then just it hit me halfway through And I was like holy fuck I am so scared right now

I forget which one it was exactly I was like Edibles come And give you that uppercut And third round Without you expected Yeah I can't do edibles, man.

But I'm so excited, man. I can't contain myself. This is how Big Teak feels when it's football time in Tennessee. Correct. This is how I feel about Black Mirror, bro. Holy shit. What are your, like, three favorite episodes? Um, okay.

That's hard to do. Because there was literally not an episode I didn't enjoy. Um, but I think the one where I don't, I don't, I don't know the name of it, but the one where they called the other people roaches and like you, they couldn't, they, they saw, they got injected with this thing that made them see like poor people, basically, as like, like they had a disease or something like that. And so they were exterminating them, thinking that they were, it was, they were cleansing them. But it was just because they had like a genetic disease or something like that, that was inherited or something like that. that one I think

I'd have to go with the one where I think it was the very first one where you can like rewind shit that you see the first one is the the prime minister fucking the pig

oh is it okay so that's because everybody always said don't if you're going to watch the show don't watch it in order don't watch the first one first I was like well I'm absolutely doing that now it was a while

I enjoyed that episode it's a good episode yeah yeah um no this one was like he caught a shorty cheating because like you can you can record shit that you see and so she

I remember that one yeah that one was dope a shit I like the dating app one yeah white bear too um white bear was my favorite

white Christmas the John Hale yeah that's the one yeah that's the I would say that's my top three yeah that one's really good it's a great show I don't want to spoil all the twists

because a lot of them have really great twists but white there's a new season coming out they've been out for five years okay white bear white bear's insane where you just are following this person and thinking that she's like like getting totally harassed and hunted down by these like sadistic predator people and like you think she's in like

post apocalyptic world and then like at the end it's revealed that they just wipe her memory every morning and that she was an accomplice to a child murder and they just hunt her every day. That would be, that's a great punishment. Yeah. That episode's insane. Just live the rest of your life in terror every day.

But you don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and the Starflee one. I forgot. Yes. Starfle one. That shit is so fired.

Because I'm a Trekkie anyway. And so that could have went bad, but they did so, they did so well, though. They keep somebody DNA, the dude, that creepy dude was keeping somebody's DNA and recreating them inside of his little world. That shit is. Such a fire concept, though. It's going to be tough, though, because it's such a good show and it's such, like, I've never heard anybody say I don't like Black Mirror.

And if anybody does say that, just kind of keep away from them. But they have such a tall task in, in, like, recreating the magic that I almost want to keep my expectations kind of low because that's how fire. Even the one with Miley Cyrus, PFT's girl, like, that shit was fire too. And I like how they stayed away from like known celebrities too But I don't know man I'm fucking hype about that shit bro Trailer looks pretty good

I can't hear it but I can see it Yeah man Hype about that anybody anything else got Any fucking gee okay so don't drink Does anybody have anything else going or Jesus cry I went I went and got a little lit last night And that's my punishment This is the worst shit ever

It's like a gift and a curse I don't get hangovers I don't know if I've said that on this show before But I don't get hangovers. I've never gotten hung over. I just wake up drunk. Like, that's my punishment for drinking too much. It's just waking up drunk. And this is like a gift on the curse.

It's great, but it's shit. I was going to say, which would you? Like, later in the day? No. Which would you rather have? I would rather have hangovers because there's no deterrent for me drinking. Like, the only deterrent is like, oh, I did something stupid. Like, that's the only, and I've really never done anything that stupid.

You know, like, nothing crazy, like, to cost me, like, legally or anything like that. just usually, you know, drunk texts or, you know, call people, like that kind of shit. But like, I just, there's nothing to stop me from drinking other than like, maybe I'll die later on in life because of it. But it's just, I don't know. I would like a deterrent. But even in terms of the next day, I would almost, if you could pick, like, you wake up still drunk or you just have like a headache, I would pick the latter. The headache? Yeah. Yeah, me too. No, I'm saying I wish I did have a deterrent. Like, I don't have, like, when people are like, oh, I'm never drinking again.

again, I'm just like, I just make a drunk. You're saying it's no deterrent. I'm saying waking up still drunk is, is just as bad, if not worse, as just having a hangover. No, that's- Oh, no. You're crazy. I wouldn't want that. No, it's sneaky, really dangerous when you drive to work the next morning. No, this was a, I, similar to Aaron.

Similar to Aryan, I think Aryan doesn't understand that the hangover just hits later in the day, but you're just better prepared for it by hydrating and stuff. How are you going to tell me I don't understand what? Naga, I don't get hangovers. So like you're drunk right now. Take his word for it. You're drunk right now, right? But what happens when the alcohol leaves your system?

I'm not drunk anymore. Yeah, but there's zero withdrawals? No, that's what I'm trying to tell you. I don't get hangovers. I've been drinking a very long time, Billy. It's just, I don't know what it is. Maybe I just eat or drink water during, but I just don't like, when people are like,

I just feel, I just don't feel that. I just wake up a little drunk. So do you not, so there's multiple facets of a hangover. There's the physical symptoms, the pain, and then there's usually a psychological symptom. Like, what's the psychological symptom? Some people just get psychologically hung over where like they just feel anxious, where it all disappears and then they get hit with a bout of anxiety. And they're, because it's like, all of a sudden you're like, oh shit. Like, I'm not drunk anymore.

And I have like my. Like on some alcoholic shit? like no no no not some alcoholics you like that's like anxiety like some people like for me physically i don't feel hungover but like when i'm after i like i don't get a headache i do feel dehydrated but it's more usually i'm like oh shit it's sunday like what what like i don't know like anxiety is like your mind's racing no i get anxiety when i fly and i drink um but i think that has more to do with the flying are you drinking while flying usually before yeah so like i'm talking about like if i have so if i i drank last night

if i had a flight today that'll give me anxiety yeah hmm i like to drink before flights just so i sleep yeah that's how i don't like like i don't know what happened man i think i don't know what happened but like because i i flew all the time like i'm talking i mean i said i had to fly all across the country for like games and stuff like that my entire life business all this stuff like 2018 i think it was all the sudden i got mad nerves on planes i'm not afraid of heights i don't know what it is but like every single little bump and turbulence i get like the biggest like gut-wrenching and i've never been like that before i was literally the cat like so like one time i was on a plane this was before this happened once i was on plane and there's this lady

and she's having a full-on panic attack. She's going, like, sitting there panting, like, holding her seat, like, and she keeps lifting the window up. And I, like, and we're going through, like, a storm, so we're kind of going like that. But I just never, it never bothered me. I was literally like, hey, just set your window down. It's going to be okay. I was comforting like that.

But, like, now I'm her, and I don't know what happened. Have you ever flown, like, to Europe? Like, just, just across the ocean. Okay, so, yeah. because I'm flying, I'm going to London this summer and I'm generally pretty good on planes but I'm concerned about just ocean for seven hours You're more likely

Yeah, car than in a plane Yeah, for sure It's a comforting thought It's just when I can see land outside I'm like oh I know where we are We're in the US But when you just look out and it's just water As far as you can see

Concerned about that Water landings might be more might be safer on impact i don't quote me on that okay and then and then what well then then that's your problem like swimming that can't be i can't i mean i don't you could be probably but it can't that makes sense to me like the impact the impact might are you talking like in no if you're falling from far up it's like it's like hidden concrete without the wheels you're saying yeah oh okay if you were to to crash land on land or on water Well, I don't know, I don't know enough about that.

I'm sure both of them are really bad. Okay, so, okay, you're less likely to drown on land, open to, okay. Yeah, that checks out. Did you have to look bad? No, no, we know that, but the thing is, I feel like, we're establishing a baseline of facts. If you can swim, let's go, and we go deeper from here. This is like, wait, when you take a lie detector, like, what's your name, what's your birthday,

we're establishing the baseline first. Less likely to drown on land. Give me more. Airplanes are designed so that a water landing won't cause immediate harm to passengers. That's what I was getting at. Immediate harm. You might drown if you're unconscious, but I feel like hitting the water, like, you're not going to die on impact as much. Because, like, if you hit a building on land or like...

But don't people say if you come at water fast enough, it's like hitting concrete? Yeah, but not when you're coming from it vertically from the like horizontal. Well, I don't know. You know, we can move on to this. How lit are planes after a game? Like, let's say you win a game. After impact I'm pretty lit

Like after a game The team gets on the team playing Or however it works Like are you guys like partying on the plane Like those Kirk cousins I feel like a week six Yeah Those Kirk cousin videos of him

Like Kirk O'Bain's videos Like they seem pretty high Kirk Cobain's fans Hell of a pivot But those are some of the fun of things That's like if people ask me If I miss something about Me playing

It's absolutely that plane rides if you win everybody turned up everybody coaches everybody drinking on a plane people back there gambling no seat belts everybody's seat is is reclined back it's some of the fun of the shit in the world absolutely and one of the homies I ain't going to name me but one of the homies used to have like he called up Polish vodka I think it was Polish something like that but it was like this like straight from the land type i don't even know if this the case he might have been lying but like we used to we used to drink that shit and it was just great times absolutely great times now if you lose it's awful it's it's it's horrible what's so funny back

there you got we just lost it wasn't i'm like all right bro world is ending lost the game was there the big gamble where like you pack stuff for the plane and then it was like if you didn't win you had all this stuff in your bag or something that you just like couldn't really You could use it, but not in a party type way. Nah, I do still got a day. I mean, for the most part, like, we've grown men, you know what I'm saying? Like, they would look down on you, like, enjoying yourself after loss, but, um, we still grown men, man.

Because in college, we used to take a seven-hour bus trip to play one team in our conference in Maine, and it was always a big gamble, like, okay, we're going to bring stuff for the bus ride, but if we lose, it's going to be nine hours of us, like, not being able to Like, we weren't allowed to anyway, but there'd be a blind eye turned if we had, like, nips in our gear bags. You'd bring nips to your D3 football game? Well, coming back on the bus. Right. That was a hell of a little slight there, Maddie.

I just didn't think you guys had you used to. We were in a bus for seven hours. You'd be throwing a little shayden. You'd be throwing a little shade. It's a Saturday, and we are basically our whole day's football. And then coming back from the game that ends at five, we wouldn't get back to campus to, like, 1 a.m. straight out yeah but we'd also like just like be sipping nips like listening to music in the back the bus like the coaches wouldn't know we were drinking but like we're still we're still trying

like a high schooler trying to sneak out but we were still trying to have a fun time on her like one night of the week we're allowed off as I say is that the one night was that the one night a week you're allowed to drink yeah okay that makes more so yeah but then we'd sometimes loot like if you actually we never lost a main game if you're not allowed to drink it yeah sometimes we lose actually no we never lost a main game But it's, like, it doesn't really change. I remember a vividly dog that, you know, that time, like, after spring ball where they just lay you alone.

And I remember thinking, like, yo, I could have so good grades if I didn't have to play football. Like, there's just so much time. And I just didn't have, I didn't, I didn't realize how much time, like, regular students had. but like we have we have no time as as football players and i just remember thinking like yo i can get straight a's with all this fucking time you don't remember that i i know i remember that because once i got out once i stopped playing football i mean the summer is a different thing because you're usually working some type of job but you're training the whole time that feeling of having absolutely zero structure at all was something that i like it it got me into trouble

in my professional life Like going from Really? Yeah I mean I literally ended up having so much time When we like especially outside of football season It was like what the fuck And that was filling up condoms with water

No no Aquarium This was after this was after college This was like what I finally was like I would like to circle back to that Yeah Do you want to rescind that I will send you

Have you ever filled up a condom with water He's sticking to his guns I mean, it's not an aquarium. You said, you said 10 gallons. It's more of a fishbowl. Billy, you said 10 gallons. Okay. It was a lot of water.

There was a little, you know, embellishment there. But it seemed like, can you judge how much water you're looking at? Like, how much is this? I can, I could absolutely. How much is this? I would say that's around a liter, yeah. Okay, well, you know what? One leader.

Yeah. Nailed. Oh, shit. Fucking, I'm real. I can see 10 gallons. If you could fit 10 gallons. gallons in a condom, like that's great marketing actually.

They would have used that shit. I saw just Google. I'm going to find a video of condom water balloon because they're huge. It's actually insane. Do you know how big 10 gallons is, bro? I know. I kept fish in multiple animals. I know 10 gallons was a stretch.

I know. It was embellished me, but it was like it's a lot of water. He goes, Aaron, don't fuck with me. I have, I have aquatic animals at home. Yeah.

You don't think I kept frogs. in a 10-gallon tank. Like, look at this. I could have just kept him in a condom instead. Yeah. Dude, it wasted so much money on that aquarium. That would be the little goldfish

swimming around in a condom. Like how you get it from the fair and it's in that plastic bag. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You just get it in a condom. Dude, I mean, like this. Oh, it's like a ribbed condom. Like this, I mean, this condom, like,

it filled, it filled, it's huge. Yeah, McKenzie, it fills up the whole sink basis. Wait, this is the, picture you were talking about it fills up the whole sink basin that's two to three gallons okay whatever there's no way that that is pretty big i come on like we're i said aquarium aquariums come in all shapes and sizes i did not like it's big whatever why are we taking like my no no no see you know you said aquarium i called you out on that and then you said it was it was like 10 gallons and you doubled down and now you're tripling down no i'm not tripling down it's like why are we

really holding me accountable for a measurement I've thrown out for how much water is in a condom like if I don't say the exact specifications it's just it's a wild reference it's a wild reference it seems like a shit ton of water also also I want to clip the part that just says why are we holding me accountable oh yeah just have it looped why are we holding me account of why are we holding me kind of why are we holding me just looped that shit like I'm literally talking about filling up a condom with water why does anything I say after that to be the exact any merit like if i was like if i was like like that's that's self-awareness if i was on like if i was on trial right and it was like you asked me something serious like how much did you like

if if i'm getting pulled over and a cop asked me how much i had to drink that tonight like you know i'm going to give a real answer when i'm talking about filling up water but like condoms with water like come on that's on you guys for having a problem with my embellishment of that story no no no no it's not anyway the whole point is if you threw one of those out a window it could seriously hurt somebody two stories now that was my only that's true that was my you can really fuck somebody up with that yeah yeah yeah we had this uh I think I said this before but we had this um we were actually wow and I don't think of it we had this like BB gun fight at in Tennessee uh we were we literally it was like in the like two three in the morning we would go to what is that shit called I think it's the The quad?

I don't know what the fuck is called. Like in the middle of those big buildings like in the main campus. You're talking about Prez court? Yeah. Yeah. Also, because we're holding people accountable,

were they airsoft guns or BB guns? You're right. Airsoft. Airsoft. Airsoft. Because BB guns are dangerous. You're not going to slip a thing by this guy now. Because you could have killed somebody with those BB guns.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bebe guns. Was it 2 a.m. or 205? Yeah. Was it the quad? Was it the 10? Tennessee campus? No, I love this.

New Billy, who this? Let's do it, Billy. I'm on for it. Call me out. I love being corrected. It's the funnest shit in the world. Now we learned something. What happened with the BB guns?

Oh, yeah. The airside. I mean, it was not that, it's not that even interesting. But we used to, we would go like in, it was like 205 a.m. And we would go in the middle of the, uh, uh, uh, of the, uh, uh, uh, of the, uh, uh, uh, uh, like a little court area and we would just let off on each other we have like these it was like like a like a paintball you know like two teams and shit it was it was really fun we'd invite the females and it was fun of shit but then somebody snitched and we we had a team meeting about it yeah it sucks yeah

one of the fun of things that happened in college college was wild man my uh we got one snow day in the time i was a student at utt and it was like real snow it was like three or four inches and there was a massive snowball fight in PrezCourt. It was the coolest shit ever. Oh, snowball fight. Everybody, because Prescourt, it was all the freshman dorm, so everybody came out and was just outside hurling snowballs. It was awesome.

Now, I love to see it. My college hadn't had a snow day in 50 years, and they pride to themselves. So did mine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it was like one of those things were like three feet of snow on the ground. Like, you know, you're going to class.

They would, like, there would be so much snow. would like shut down like the staircases on campus but they wouldn't cancel class yeah like they're they would just like cautioned it off and be like no this is too dangerous but like yeah class was still on it was cool people made gigantic dicks in the snow igloos giant snowman and then at night like all like the narps that built these like artistic snow pieces we just like be drunk and just destroy them just because we were angry you got a dick move Yeah, that's the dick move Yeah, but I don't know

Are you the type to go kick over sandcastles and shit? No, no, because that's in the daylight Okay Only does it under the cover of nightfall No one can get you Look, when I don't know When you're locked in the middle of the woods

And you're just getting cabin fever And you're just like literally like 60 dudes Like on a football team And you just all go drink at the football house And then you leave go back to your dorm and just see gigantic snowmen like you're going to tackle them completely agree okay why were you locked in the middle of the woods that's a long story we're here for it man i was isolated in the middle of uh northwest massachusetts which if you know massachusetts

is uh very far from boston and that's what people mostly consider massachusetts in the what mountain range said uh the Adirondacks there no no restaurants or anything there was no restaurants what I'm looking there was no bars no restaurants wasn't there like one bar there was one bar that closed during COVID yeah there was one bar that closed during COVID and that bar was where all the professors went and so you couldn't even go to it yeah so it was all house parties and like they would all get shut down so the only place we could all congregate was at the football house and it was just did you live at the football house? I did senior year

I'm seeing some good spots Like the off-campus house Where all the football players All the cool football players would live Probably Is this Is this like a known thing Or am I fucking up

Or this is just your school I just our school Because we had no Greek life Yeah mine was like that too Yeah it's like It's niche D3 football Yes Yeah it is

Culture Yep Miami like Miami had that Because we're all bad sports McKenzie Where did you go to school I went to Ithaca college, which is in Ithaca, New York.

Like, you know, Cornell. Yeah. It's right. It's in the same town as Cornell. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah, I'm unaware of the football house. How insane is Corkica? Oh, it's so fun.

It was at Yankee Stadium this year. I know, which sucks, because then there isn't the frat row riots because they get everything on campus. Oh, yeah, they do, yeah. I was thinking from my, like, I wanted to do a video at Cortica and just, like, get into the mosh pit. That would be fun. It's insane.

Yeah, I think they did it at MetLife actually a couple years ago, and then they did at Yankee Stadium this year, but they probably won't have it somewhere else. I definitely know what we're talking about, but for people who may not know what we're talking about, what would you guys, could you describe? I totally know, but if someone did. Yeah, that's true. Cortica is the fake biggest little game in America. Yeah. The real one is Williams and Amherst. But Cortica gets a little rowdier.

It's it's Ithaca college versus Sunni Cortland. They're like 30 minutes away from each other. And it's, yeah, like I think Sports Illustrated called it like the biggest, the biggest little game in the country. And it's like a D3 football game, but it's like the only game because it's D3. So it's like we're not tailgating and like going to the games every week. But that's like the biggest game. Like that's a D1 game in our eyes. Got it.

And they played it at a game. It's like Army. Yeah. They played it at. They played at Yankee Stadium this year. It was very exciting. Both teams were undefeated. Yeah, the reason they had to play at Yankee Stadium

because in years past, there would be gigantic riots during the game and like houses would burn down. I think that was at Cortland, because that never happened at Ithaca. Yeah, it was 100% of Cortland. But Williams Amherst is the real biggest little game in America. I mean, ESPN only showed up to one D3 football game

and it was Williams. No, William Zamherst is the shit. Yeah. I mean, if you played in Williams Amherst, the Williams Amherst game, I'm late. You're a pretty big deal. Eafs up. Someone's that. Is that where you played?

Yeah. Eaves up. Let's go Ephraim's. What is it? It's a whole, oh my God, it's the weirdest. Let's get into some D3 mascot. Well, I think of the bombers. Well, these are the lamest mascot you ever heard.

The Neskechak has some bad one. Ephraim Williams. Williams, Eiframs. No, no. Eifrom Williams. the name, the mascot is the name of the guy who found at the college. But it's a cow. No, Eiff from Williams is the guy who found in the college.

But your mascot is a cow. Yeah, our mascot's a cow, but the cow is nothing to do with Eiff from Williams. Oh. So an Eiff, a purple cow is nothing to do. Oh. Yeah, it's the lamest thing. And then there was the Lord Jeff's. And Lord Jeff founded Amherst.

So they were the Lord Jeff's until they found out that Lord Jeff had been giving the Native American smallpox blankets. and he got canceled. So now it's Amherst. Now they're the mammets. Billy, what years were you in college? 17. I was, I graduated in 21. Okay, so I was right before you got there,

I was going to blame this on you, but it looks like Amherst had their most success ever in the series. Yeah, 11 to 16, 7 wins in a row. We brought it back. We brought it back. That's good. I mean, the Eifs went undefeated and beat Amherst.

first, uh, Eves up. Eves up. That's good. That's the D3 football power hour. Yeah. So. And that's the Williams minute and that we have going on in here. Uh, what I mean, Ivy League football. It's funny because technically the Nescac isn't in the NCAA because, like, they don't have booster. Like, is it NIA? So they don't qualify for the playoff. And because of that, there's no drug testing. And you can also get jobs from alumni. Can you not do that? And wait. Aaron, could you not have gotten a job for the Tennessee? What is that you're talking about? Under old rules.

What do you mean? Like technically While you're in school? Like, you know, Aaron, remember how like strict the NCAA used to be about boosters and stuff so like you weren't allowed to work? Yeah, you couldn't have a job. Yeah, you couldn't have a job. I think like period though. Yeah. But after.

So post grad. Could you? Post grad you could. That's what I did. But you could get an internship in school with an alumni or something. Like it's not that. Patrick with D3, but, like, still, that's why, like, the Ivy League also isn't playoff eligible for the FCS. But they can't play out of conference games, but it's because they want them to be.

Oh, but they have the Ivy League Championship. Yeah, it's so that they, like, they can work for alumni at some, like, investment bank, like, over the summer and not getting trouble with the NCAA. I never knew. Yeah. That was a thing. Also, they, they, like, think that their academic standards are so high when in reality Ivy League recruits. Like, there's a couple Ivy League recruits that, like, have just the same. Like, there's different bands in the Ivy League.

Right. Didn't you explain this a couple weeks ago, like the bands? Yeah. The band, like, so if you went to Harvard, it doesn't mean, like, if you were a low-band recruit, like, you didn't have insane grades. You were just, like, the best football recruit in the class, and they're afforded a certain amount, whereas, like, some guys are, like, total nerds. Can I ask a question about that?

It's, like, Prop 48? Not familiar. So Prop 48 was, like, where when dudes couldn't make the grades. for, I think it's just the California schools. I'm from my mistaken. But you couldn't make the grades for college, and they prop 48 as you didn't let you in. I could be correct about the state, hold on to see.

But I have a question. So if you were a low band, that meant you have, like, not as good grades here in Harvard. Yeah. Why would you want to go to an Ivy League school and be an athlete if you weren't Ivy League smart? Not, I've, obviously, I recognize what a great education it is. I just feel like it would be, it's hard enough to be a Ivy League student, let alone an Ivy League student athlete.

No, some of those schools are so fucking easy. There's like idiots, I know, that went there, went to a couple of them for football and other sports. What do they call it grade? They were low band recruits and they had better grades. They had like straight A's and it was like, yeah, you know, Harvard's easy. I was like, what? What do they call it when it's like Harvard versus BU, like BU's like, it's like grade something? Like there's prop up their grade.

grades. So like everyone gets trade A's at Harvard or something. Oh, grade inflation? Inflation. Yeah. Sorry. And then like grade deflation like B.U or something. Yeah. So like I don't know. So some of these kids would go like you could take there's gut courses at Harvard and you could maintain a high GPA at Harvard if you're not like trying to be like an astronaut. Yeah. Or some. I don't know what they're craziest like like like you know applied physics or some shit. Like you could like get a liberal arts degree at Harvard and take a bunch of gut courses and come out with a 4.0 and then get high. And then get high. Like, like, you know, applied physics or some shit. Like you could like get a liberal arts degree at Harvard and take a lot of court courses and then get high. And then get high. hired by like because you had a four point like some insane investment bank but we're doing a lot of niche northeast yeah yeah what a finesse though it is it is everyone was trying to do it i just feel like if if if you were low band and you're that good you would want to go somewhere else that's why well the thing is like the north like why you know there's not that many good football players coming out of the northeast like because they the ivy leagues all recruit the Northeast and you're like well go to the NFL like they'll find me if I go to an Ivy League or in like guarantee I get a good job and make a lot of money out of college or like go

somewhere else maybe not make the NFL so like that's that's a discrepancy of like why there's not so much northeastern football powerhouses yeah okay some of the Ivy League schools are pretty good at basketball though I mean Princeton this year yeah Harvard's usually good Yale's usually good but that's because they get it's a much smaller recruiting pool so like they can get way more low band recruits for the percentage of their team Tennessee just got a transfer from Harvard he gets to go the Harvard of the south now I always looked at Harvard like uh Hogwarts they have similar uniforms yeah in my head yeah I don't know just old and yeah very very very very simple yeah

Griffin door specifically yeah I mean I've never even seen Harry Potter I don't I just I've seen when they play that what is it um Quidditch Quidditch when they play that shit they dress up I've seen that I've seen clips of that so I need I need to watch Harry Potter it's not that I don't like I have nothing against it

it's just every time I've tried to I fell asleep I think I've said that before but it's like I can't stay awake and it's not because it's bad it's just unluckily i have just watched it when i've been tired every single time i think i've tried like four or five different times and i've fell asleep every single time yeah it doesn't do it for me it's fine i want to like it though i want to like it i have them all because my kids like it but i need to i need to crack that safe i need i need to do that i like who grew up reading the books i think i read a couple of them when i was a kid just to go into school and

show people that I was reading them because it was like a flex at the time if you could read Harry Potter and I was and I was like yeah I'm reading this shit like fuck you guys but I don't I don't recall like enjoying them I think we all were of the last like generation that like read hard back books and like remember when people would like bring books to school I'm sure kids still do that no but like take this like big ass Harry Potter book out and slam it down. I was like, oh shit, that's a long-ass book. My daughter's an avid reader.

Not just on the iPad. Still use paper books. No, no. She actually, actually used a book. We'd read books together. Yeah, she's, at her little crew, actually, all of them like to read. And I think kids still read, man. I don't know. I don't know how technologically, like, I guess because I'm not around kids that age anymore,

I just see the kids on their iPads and phones at, like, restaurants and shit. Did you ever, like, bring a book to friendlies to whip out? I, uh, I used to read Aragon, be an eldest. We had chilies with a fucking, you know, Billy, Billy went down and took his evening central park walk by himself. I would sit in his trench coat, yeah, sit on a park bench and read my books. He had his loafers. They fed the birds.

I also, I also used to have a fedora. No, you did it. Fodora with this trench coat in loafers. Did you actually have a footer? I, I dressed like Sherlock Holmes. I had a pipe. too. I used to go stroll in the park.

No, this cap. That's all cap. That's so funny, though. Big T. Yeah. What you got for us, man? You teed off about anything? Oh, I had one the other day. And I was ready on Tuesday and we didn't do it. And now I don't remember what it was.

Hang on. I may have written it down. Love that. That means it's a good one. I usually do. No, I didn't. Hang on. Have y'all seen... Well, he's looking for that. Have y'all seen the trailer for The Little Mermaid?

I didn't see the trailer. I just saw that, like, still of all of the mermaids, and it looks really bad. I just saw that... It's coming. I'm excited for it. I just thought that people were pissed about the lyrics. Oh, Kelly Kiggs was mad because they changed the lyrics.

Oh, hey, look who joined us. Hey. He's connecting. Oh, audio. There you go. Hello. Hey, PFT. Hey guys, what's up?

Oh, awesome. What up, no. How are you? My bad. That's on me. I thought, I thought that we were going at two. I get my, I got my times all sorts of mixed up. But good to see you guys.

Hello, we're just getting into teed off. Oh, okay. I thought I had one and now I can't. I'll remember it as soon as we're done. Tucker Carlson got fired. Oh, yeah. I don't care. No, that was good.

That was teed up. I'm beat off about something. I'm beat off. All right, beat me. I'm beat off, Billy. I'm beat off as fuck. I was getting beat off. So I think he got fired because he was saying that all the news networks were totally dictated by their advertisers.

Did you not, he was literally going off about that, like, the day before. Like the stuff that I was saying that you all were saying I was crazy, he was saying. Well, you were very specific. And all news networks are dictated by large advertisers who give the money. Wait, which one of them, which are, which one? Fox and CNN. Which person are you talking about? Tucker Carlson.

Yeah, but Billy, also, Tucker Carlson has been like going against some of his advertisers for the last like two years. This time he barked up the wrong tree. I don't know about that. Did it cost Fox News $787 million? Yeah, I thought it had something to do with that. Yeah, it does. And there's also the aspect of a harassment lawsuit where some of the texts that were uncovered between Carlson and other people behind the scenes kind of like backed up that individual's claim. And so he became like a, he became exposure for him. And yeah, it's, he's going to, he's going to be fine. Don't worry. I'm not going to, I'm not going to cry any tears for Tucker. He's going to end up making more money than he already made before. It actually would, I've seen a lot of people say that they should have Don Lemon and Tucker Carlson. do like a reboot of crossfire and we talked about that a little bit on tuesday's show and uh i don't if you guys did you guys ever watch the original crossfire no we're too young i've seen clips but

it was uh it was bad but it wasn't as bad as the media has become with like the segmentation of fox news and msnbc and CNN and all that stuff like looking back on it it was way better than what we have now but at the time we were like this sucks like you guys are turning They turned politics into around the horn, basically, which is entertaining. But at the same time, I think John Stewart went on a crossfire one time back in the day. And he was just like, stop. Can you guys just please stop because you're actually hurting people by turning this whole thing into a game when you're actually talking about people's lives? And at the time, we thought that was bad, but it's way, way better.

Actually, this has never happened in a million years. But if John Stewart and Tucker Carlson did a show together, I think that would that would be fire as far as like clips go as far as the debates that they would have. I don't think that they do it. I don't think that John Stewart would want to do it. But I think it would be healthier than what we have right now in our news is what I'm saying. I don't think he's on his level, man. I say that respectfully. But I think John Stewart is like brilliant.

I think you have somebody to like to match. Because I think Tucker Carlson, I don't think he's stupid. I just think that intellectually you'd have to have somebody because John Stewart's smart as shit. And so I think somebody can match that. Like so somebody like a, I don't know, I can't think of anybody right now. But maybe like a Ben Shapiro. Like somebody who can match his wits at least intellectually.

I mean, I don't like to do. But I'm just trying to find somebody on the right that can intellectually match John Stewart. And I don't think Tucker Carlson can do it. I think he's just, good for what he does, right? But, like, I've never seen him, like, drum up a poignant point that makes you think. It makes you get in the bag. Andrew Tate and John Stewart. Holy shit.

But it's like, it's like chess boxing, where they do the first segment is debate. Second segment is kickboxing. And then third segment is debate again. Is he out? I heard he was out. He's out of jail. what's up with the charges Billy you keep it up with what's up with you I mean I think they're just like I don't know it's a different court system

we don't actually know what's going on I mean it's not the U.S. I need you to I need you to become an expert in Romanian law okay I think Romanian law is whatever they want like whatever the government yeah so's ours bro I think there's a little bit more due process on our end I think that in Romania, it's just like whoever happens to be in charge of the situation at that given time gets to make all the rules. And by that given time, I mean, like, whoever is like driving the car that is taking Andrew Tate from one jail to another, that guy is now in charge. I don't think he ever saw a judge. He gets checked in.

Like, in America, you get the right to see it judge. Yeah, but even then, like, you have people die in jail waiting on the judge. like three, four years before it even gets your case you're seeing. Oh, so they're on house arrest. I would love to be on house arrest. That was basically COVID. They put the whole country on house arrest. That's Aryan's vacation.

It's house arrest. Late. A little golf every now and then. Let it extend. Yeah. I like to live on a golf course, though. It's funny. I'm basically, so.

I've shared a little bit about this process that I'm going here with my mom. I've been moving her into her new place, which is like a, it's like a retirement center. So she's got like her own condo, but it's in like this big area where they've got all sorts of apartment complexes set up. And they've got restaurants in every building. They've got recreation and stuff. They've got a pickleball court. People are just playing pickleball right outside. They've got, there's like a big bridge club that's playing right outside the store right now.

and the room that they graciously allowed me to use to do this is the golf simulator room. I'm literally right now. I'm going to try to turn my computer to that. Oh, no. Oh. This retirement home has a golf simulator? That's fire. I don't know how that is connected to your internet, but.

your camera's connected to your internet when you moved it you went away but that's fire bro it is pretty sick i'm looking to get a golf simulator in the crib so yeah you you should it's got like the trackman and everything i might get a couple is it have a real track man like a because track i think so trackman are like 20 grand though i let me go let me go see what it is i might i might try to get a quick nine in after we're done recording before i go back but just hang on i'm going to tell you what what kind it is yeah there's no way that they have a trackman in a retirement home that'd be sick though because the actual my dad's always like oh the actual track man's like those are like the legit ones there's like

20 grand yeah it's a it's a sky track got you yeah it's like you know they have they have you know more reasonably priced ones but I remember what I'm packing my mom up we're moving out cheap ass golf super little no I was I was gonna put one into career but the lady told me she was like

it's like 20,000 I was like what the fuck is why why now like I'm straight I just golf is so expensive golf is extremely high class that's why they're so uppity with all these stupid rules I think it's like one of the most addictive like it's I think it's one of those expensive habits and the thing is it is a real

addiction like literally everyone at barstole reaches a certain age and they just like every podcast turns into a golf podcast like we got spit and chicklets as a golf podcast four play four plays a golf podcast like i'm trying to make sure this doesn't turn into a totally big like golf podcast part of my take is definitely turned golf like turned you're just you're just witnessing people aging everybody just golfing i'm the only i'm the only i'm the only one who's just like trying to keep us not into a golf when are we going to get back to manly sports like football and actually big team makes a great point because like this is strictly an offseason thing i'm sure once the ball season roll around like i'm i'm not going to play golf

at all you're going to be like that shit's going to be over oh yeah it's going to be sunday it's nice out you're going to be like oh fuck football i'm going to play golf i'm not going to say fuck football you're going to be like i don't want to sit inside all sunday when it's nice out and i can be hitting the links, doing all the putting and the chipping and the dunking and the driving. It honestly would be cheaper. It'd be more financially responsible for people once they turn 30 instead of picking up golf to just get addicted to crack. That was probably safe on the long term. Oh, a thousand percent of wood.

I'll tell you what I've gotten a little bit addicted to recently that is much cheaper, but is just as good it's golf video games uh yeah i just play i just play pGA all day now you know i've been meaning to download that man and like my guys getting better so i'm i'm my attributes i'm i'm buying more stuff i'm getting pretty good have you given up cutting lawns uh for the time being we'll bring that back at some point got you got to got to chase your dreams yeah yeah yeah we'll bring it back i haven't man i haven't been on the mower in a in a month or two we will bring that back there's definitely there's definitely some sort of overlap that you can do where you could run the mower simulator but

also like use the golf course designing tool in pGA tour 2k and then you could mow your own golf course you could you could maintain the golf course that would be nasty there's there's got to be a lands a landskeeper simulator for golf courses a groundskeeper simulator groundskeeper yeah look into it i'm sure there is And then you can play your own course too Put the pine straw down I'll tell you what man If you ever just look at a golf course

The way that I mean If somebody was to tell you from scratch To make a green, a putting green Like I don't even know how to begin To make that shit like that That shit is magical But don't mean to be that guy Golf courses are so bad for the environment

I mean you guys are lives Like I don't know I like real forest I like wild life Almost year three of this podcast and you're still calling us libs it's actually wild okay i don't care i mean i mean you guys are like what do you what do you guys are to call you like you guys eat out a big phlegist so i don't communist okay that's fine fuck i i use those terms too yeah do that lives is so centrist it's

all right but also pilly yeah you really did like that you really did like that triggered triggered your under your understanding of politics is about a year and a half long and okay you think that Like liberals are the party of Big Pharma. The liberals and Republicans, like, conservatives and Republicans both have been just sucking. I got to. Yeah. No, they've been. Because there's people playing bridge rats out.

They've been deep throat and big pharma for the last 50 years. Okay. So, and historically, it's been much, it's been much, much more on the Republican side of Congress. I totally believe that. To turn blind eyes to things. And so, like, the whole libs are the ones who support. But you're talking about one specific thing. And that is vaccine for COVID.

And because liberals hate Donald Trump and they turned into psychos during COVID about everything that was wrong with Donald Trump, you think that liberals are the only ones that's big pharma, which in reality, that's not the case. I don't think we should deep throat any industrial complex, be it the military industrial complex, which all the rhino, all the neocons in the early 2000s got on their knees for. I mean, like, now we're sort of just like Rhinos are you're calling George George W. Bush I mixed up rhino with Neocon. Cheney, Rino. They're taking rhino. Okay.

They're taking rhino pills. The entirety of American history is filled with sucking off the military. I know. What are you talking about? I know, but I'm like saying like you specified it to rhinos, bro. No, no. I'm saying the whole time it's just like when it's, when it was put right in front of us, like why weren't you guys?

like why don't you understand that the same date and switch was happening what what also let let's be clear let's be clear that if if uh russia had attacked ukraine and uh there were republicans that were in charge as opposed to joe biden you would not see a giant pushback on military spending and military aid going overseas because that's historically been a thing that republicans have been the ones who are like you're a pussy if you don't support us giving all this money and all this military aid overseas that's and and if it was the other way around if there if it was Donald Trump who was in office and he was sitting all this military spending and shit overseas then liberals would definitely you wouldn't see too many liberals

with Ukrainian flags right in their bios I mean it's like it's all but like we should be in like Sudan there's a huge all about being consistent okay I want to get back to the golf courses and how they're bad for amphibians. But really quickly, like Sudan's having a huge conflict right now, and no one gives a fuck because there's no money to be made from it. That's what I'm saying. I think we just sent a bunch of military aid, I think, like two days ago, I think, if I'm not mistaken.

It was like Sudan and a number of other places. We've always been selective about our aid to the world, and it's always in our best interest. I know. I understand. I understand. But back to the golf courses. do you understand how golf courses impact all of the animals in that area it kills all the frogs

but it's like it's like it's like we don't care i'll tell you what you don't care about the salamanders they eat the bugs we know we know it's poison it's like drink we know it's poison but i'm gonna have a good time like we're here for a good time not a long time and golf courses is that we know as the leftist i know it's fucking up the environment but god damn it when i shoot that 82 that feels bit. Fuck them frogs. Golf is turning the frogs. It is.

Because they use atrazine all over them. Absolutely. Gensurate. Gentrifying the frogs ecosystem and I love it. Seriously. No. Not to get into that political reign.

Okay. Too late for that, buddy. I do love, though, how like if the one thing that will make a bill like the biggest environmentalist. Billy turns into Greta Thurnberg the second one frog is endangered. Billy's gonna start showing up to like

pipelines like when they're building pipelines out in rural areas and like the abortion rights or the abortion anti-abortion people show up with like pictures of like fetuses. Billy's going to show up with just dead frogs floating belly up like look what you're doing you son of bitch.

No, the difference is I don't know. I mean, the thing is actually, you know who's done some, repurpose some great land into golf course, golf courses and like, let's keep it, but around New York, a couple of like the old trash dumps and like, places that have been turned into golf courses was Trump.

Trump turned a lot of old dumps into courses, like a lot of, what are they called, fill-ins. Landfills? Landfills. Yeah. He just put golf courses on top of them.

I'm like, that's a great use of polluting. land instead of like developing what was a forest or something i'm all for that if you want to golf on those golf courses yeah it's so funny because like that's definitely what trump was thinking too he's like you know what i want to make this environment a little bit better so that's why i'm buying these landfills and building golf course not because land's cheaper i'm doing it because i care so very deeply it's just very funny that like even sometimes if you if you don't have that intention like yeah he's he's accidentally he's low key improving the environment of these bad

places in new york and there's probably tons of tax benefits for him to develop those lands didn't didn't one of his wives get buried on one of his golf courses yeah so he's considered tax free yeah that's it's one of the most savage things i've ever seen in my life dog Bro, I think he split up her ashes and put it in several different properties just to maximize. He put him in various bunkers. Come whack the shit out of my ex. Holy shit. Because he did that.

And some liberals online, like the Krasenstein sect of Twitter, lost their minds. and they were like, we need to dig up that body because I'm pretty sure that he buried like all of his secrets in that coffin. That's who we need to have. And it became like a giant national treasure. We need the Krasenstein's on macrodosing. I think we do.

Listen, I'll platform a lot of people. I don't know about the Krasn's. Oh, come on. I think they need to come on because we've had a couple. We've had more. We need to balance out George Santos with somebody. Let's have one. The Krasenstein's, the Krasniz would be funny.

Is they double team? I'm taking a page at a big T's book. I know, I definitely know who the Krasniz Things are, but for somebody who didn't know who the Krasniz are, can you fill them in? I had to Google also. I don't know who they are. They're the number one Trump replies.

Yeah, so they made their living, or they made, they got famous, if we use that term famous, and I use it loosely. Just by setting alerts for Donald Trump, tweets on their phones and then every time he would tweet they'd be like sir resign sir you know like those sorts of things or like call out the hypocrisy in a Donald Trump tweet which yeah great okay great job sleuth in figuring out that that Donald Trump at one point said something that

directly contradicts whatever he just tweeted out and that became like their job and they got these massive amounts of followers they wrote a book about Robert Mueller investigating Trump and in the book I'm pretty sure that Robert Mueller was like shirtless with an eight pack just like look jacked up so they started to worship muller because muller was going after trump and um and then they sold yeah they sold that children's book they got kicked off twitter for a while because they're basically scam artists and uh now they're back on so i do not like don't take them seriously at all but they are fascinating individuals to see uh how there was like an entire segment of um of the economy that got built up just by being the first people their first responders is what they are they're the new

first responders. I would just reply to Donald Trump tweets and then they got famous based off that. Here's a banger from Brian Krasenstein on February 3rd, 2019. While many of you are likely yelling, go patriots or go Rams. I'm yelling, go Robert Mueller and the rule of law. That's a great one. I would consider, so that is a top two Super Bowl political tweet of all time. Do you know what the other one is my, my personal favor. Can you give me a year? Oh, I think I know who it is. I'm going to look it up right now.

It was in the last seven years at least. It was about the, was it about the halftime commercial with, it's halftime America with, what's his name? Why am I blanking? The director, cool hand Luke.

No. It was not about that. So going back to like 2015 or 16? 2014 is when it was. So who was playing the 2014 Super Bowl? The 2014 season or Super Bowl? It was February 3rd, 2014. So I think...

The 2013 season was the... Was that Patriot Seahawks? That sounds right. That sounds right to me. Yeah. Patriot Seahawks. I believe so. And so it was February 3rd, 2014.

This is from an account called Young Conservatives. They went by Young Cons. And there were two Ivy League graduates that it was David Ruffle and Josh Riddle. And they were getting into the political game. And this is the best political Super Bowl tweet of all time. I can't be the only one who thinks if the troops wanted to, they could put together a football team and dominate the NFL

just fantastic arian give me give me a spread give me an odd like what do you think the line would be on a game

how many points would the Houston Texans in 2014 be favored by against the team of all green berets well now hang on the seals are juice

their fucking there's I'm sure there's some pretty good college football players in the the military no matter there probably are

yeah if you took like the best of the best um Nate Boyer No matter He would try it out to be a long snapper I bet you could

I bet you could create A slightly below average Maybe an average FBS team Out of all the troops Definitely an FCS team You're talking You're talking about the Army Navy game

Yeah, you're drunk man No Yeah They wouldn't be I'll take it back I'll take it back Now they wouldn't You come close to winning

I'm just saying How good of a team could you make You can You can catch a team slipping. Yeah, right? You know what I'm saying? Overlooked because like what you'll have is a bunch of dudes who are super disciplined, not, you know, overly athletic, but they can get the job done and, you know, mentally tough, hopefully.

And so you might be able to catch a team slipping. You know what you're saying right now. You're like when Trump went into the CBS booth at the Army Navy game and he said, well, it's not the best football, but we love these guys. We love this game. This is amazing. I love being here. It was the funniest shit I've ever heard. That's a top five Trump moment for me when he went in there with Brad Nessler and Gary

Danielson and was like, it's not the best football out there, but these guys are wonderful patriots for their country. Their run game would be terrible, though. No, I mean, that's usually what they excel. Because these, these colors don't run. Was it the wing team? Oh, that's good. That's funny.

Oh, you set up that joke beautifully using the word run in the seventh. up for the joke and the punchline. Yep. That was good. My bad, I cut in, I cut into your set there, but I'm working on bits. I'm trying to be intentionally funny. I give that one. Okay, there's another one.

See? See? A needs improvement. That one gets a needs improvement, but good job. I'm working on bits like, uh, we did last time. 2013 Super Bowl was Seahawks Broncos, by the way. Okay. Patriot Seahawks was the next year.

I think if you took an all-star team of everybody that played for Army or for Navy or for Air Force, and you, like, in the last, let's say, seven years and put them all on one team. They, I think. There's been some good players in the last few years at those schools. Keenan Reynolds, really good quarterback. Army has a guy, was it last year that was a really high draft pick? But wasn't, wasn't Keenan Reynolds? Wasn't he like a fifth or seventh round pick and he didn't even play quarterback in the NFL?

I believe so, but at Navy, he was really good. I don't think most of the best athletes are actually coming from the Army, Navy teams in the military. There's like a bunch of former FBS players that go into special forces. Like I remember reading a story about one, just for an example, one Yale football player was trying to become a Navy seal and he died. during it like there's a bunch of guys like that who go like play at like Wisconsin Big Ten and they end up they try to be special forces and I think they're probably much better than any of the Army Navy guys they play much higher football let's not let's not just dismiss the Coast Guard

too I feel like the Coast Guard gets left out all the time and in all the discussions no I'm just saying like when we talk about the military we're like thank you for your service Navy Marines Air Force Army. We appreciate you guys. What about the, what about the Coast Guard? I'm pretty sure the Coast Guard is a tough job. Yeah, I know, I'm just saying. Let's, let's make sure to respect the Coast Guard on the show. I just learned something, but the Coast Guard has a football team.

Yeah, they recruited me. I was, it's D3 football. I was like, I don't want to go to the Coast Guard after. I had no idea. Basically, basically you've got all the training already through your dive experience, finding the mammoth bones. Yeah. Am I? You know,

they're America's lifeguards and I was a very good lifeguard. Probably the best job I ever had. You could have told people that you played football at a service academy and then they're like, oh, which one?

And then you just say, I prefer not to say, I don't like to brag and they would have thought you played an army or navy. The thing is I don't even think they pay for your tuition. Like the thing about RV Navy is like

you have to pay for school. Wait, you have to... Wait, you have to... Wait, you have to... Orange and blue like this. I don't know. It's like a bright,

dull orange and royal blue why would you have to pay the Coast Guard to join the Coast Guard let me check oh yeah never mind no tuition because half the thing about playing for

because in the Northeast army would offer everybody like anyone who had any D1 offers would automatically get an army offer because it's just so hard for them to recruit and they would have all these benefits for football players and like financial stuff stuff. But I like playing D3 for Coast Guard. I mean, like there's nowhere close to any of the

benefits that the other schools give, especially for D3. Because I don't even, because D3 there's no scholarships. Did you get offered for Army? Do you want to hear the story? No, I just asked. No, this is actually really funny. They offered a bunch of kids on my team and I walked in to my coach's office when the recruiter was there and the recruiter just looks to me, he goes, too tall. I was like, oh yeah, I think, I think you have, I was like, you're too much man for the army. That's why you didn't, that's why he didn't sound like, he was like, if you look at all the army quarterbacks, they're all short and he's like, too tall, can't get into the mesh. I was like, fuck. Get into the mesh? Plus, I wasn't a running quarterback. That does actually make

sense and plus I wasn't I wasn't you know even if I was fat like I wasn't they weren't looking to recruit me how tall are you six three fat that I like if you look at every army quarterback it's a totally different type of quarterback than the way I played I'm not I'm not knowing about the they are the short the triple option quarterbacks are usually pretty short they're there to hide behind the linemen and just like confuse everybody where the ball is and like get deep into like the option it's not you were too good for army no no i was not too good i was too tall and not mobile enough and didn't have the hip mobility

i see that i love that i love that army is is looking at guys that like want to join the military and they're like we'd really love to have you serve your country but unfortunately since i can't use you on the football field you can fuck off that is funny it was i was like what too much man for the army I was just like if I get that one army offer then maybe like other schools will start looking at me

I think Billy just wanted to be able to like tell his kids and grandkids one day like yeah the army army offered your old man a scholarship well they don't offer scholarships they just offer you a trip overseas or in a spot yeah yeah everyone gets a scholarship

it's kind of a it's kind of a school if you think about it if you think about the army gave the first scholarships ever the GI Bill yeah the GI Bill they gave the first scholarship a participation trophy just because he served overseas yeah

no we love our men and women started going down in uniform Shane Gillis also played D1 football for Army I don't know that didn't make it he dropped out but he went to training camp okay yeah

he joined the Army for a little bit During wartime. Football team. Actually, I let him tell that bit. Okay. Is he coming in right now? No, I don't want to steal a bit. It sounds like an intro for Shane.

I don't want to steal his bit if he's coming on soon. All right. We got Robbie joining us. Yes. Let's send him in. Oh, Robbie Fox. Send him in because I was doing a little bit of resource. search for this show and um i there's one thing that i need to ask him about about the uh it sure yeah

the craziest wrestling story the craziest event in the history of professional wrestling and for some reason i have never heard of it until just now and um and it's fascinating so that'll be a tease do we have an ad that we can that we can pop off it's a good tease uh we don't so uh let's just use this time to talk about how you should buy macrodosing merch on the barstool store the more macrodosing merch you buy the better the merch gets that's kind of how it works around here so please if you haven't checked out we have a july fourths coming up or july fourth shirts out tons of great like this shirt here macrodosing um there's other great macrodosing shirts there's nassas fakes fake space t-shirts uh there's our classic waffle house t-shirts still on sale um

There's the funny one with us with a Yeti. That's a great picture of all of us. And just check out the macrodosing merch if you have it. And now welcome on. Robbie Fox. Rob just came into the room, guys. Are we live? We're live, Bob.

What's going on, guys? We're live, Bobby. How's it going, Robbie? It's going great. Thanks for having me on. I'm thrilled to be on here. I told my girlfriend, I'm about to do macrodosing. And she said, you have to do drugs before you do that?

I said, no, but it might help. Yeah. It's just implied. Robbie, can we share the news that you shared in the Pup Punk group chat today? Of course. It's great, great, great news. Yeah. The great news that Robbie shared this morning was that the Saturday of the Pup Punk concert were opening up for John Mayer, no big deal, at the Ocean's Calling Festival in the Ocean City, Maryland.

October 1st, right, Robbie? September 30th. September 30th. Sorry, September 30th. That's Saturday. It is sold out. So I don't know if they're going to make more tickets available, but it's going to be a sold-out show.

Robbie is the bass player and one of the founding members of Pup Punk, Robbie Fox. And so, yeah, I'm pretty pumped about that. So hell yeah, Robbie. Let's get it. It's the first day that sold out from the festival, which I'm attributing to Pup Punk being on the bill, not John Mayer. Congratulations, fellas.

Me and Gia want to go to that really badly. Well, it's sold out now. You better get your tickets to the book. We better hope they open up more tickets for you. Yeah, maybe someone behind the scenes can help me. Yeah, we might know somebody. I know a couple people. I'm friends with Roan.

I can get that done. Robbie, so we want to talk a little wrestling today, a little professional wrestling. I thought a good way to start off would be to talk about, in my opinion, the craziest professional wrestling event of all time. And we can get into whatever other stuff that you want to get into. But I didn't know about this, that WCW.

put on an event in North Korea Oh my God Wait, I didn't know about this I don't know about this You haven't heard about this? No, all right, so, all right, this is crazy So, um, this is right after Kim Il-Sung had died So it was like, I want to say the mid-90s

And, uh, he was the guy that like Was the, he was the ruler of North Korea for a long time Including during the Korean War when North Korea they called it a victory that they defeated the United States of America and he was like he was their god he was everything to them and he had just died and so that meant that because of his death Kim Jong-il was Kim Jong-il was Kim Jong-un's dad so Kim Jong-il was taking over North Korea at the time and this is 1995 by the way I just looked it up April 28th and 29th 1995 and Pyongyang North Korea. So they've got a new leader that is starting to run the show. And at the same

time, there's a very famous wrestler named Antonio Inoki. Do you know Antonio Anoki? Bobby's a famous Japanese wrestler. Huge, huge, huge wrestler. You could call him like the Hulk Hogan of Japan for a while. Yeah. Yeah. So he was actually serving in the Senate in Japan at the time. So like politics is just kind of the same everywhere. It's like it's all it's all kind of theater and professional wrestlers, I think they're, you know, they're used to like acting and being dramatic and all this stuff. And so they're kind of like unique. Strong men politics. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's the way in the world. Yeah. He was masculine, right? So he was a, he was a senator in Japan and he was under investigation because he had a connection to the Yakuza, allegedly. So that's

the Japanese mafia. So people were investigating him. His numbers were dipping down and he was going to come up for re-election soon. And he wanted to figure out a way to give himself a publicity bump. And so he came up with this idea because he was still, he was friends with Eric Bischoff, the leader of WCW, the president of WCW. They had a good relationship dating back decades. And he also had some connections in North Korea. And so he reached out to Eric Bischoff and he was like, hey, do you want to put on an event that could change the world and promote world peace? I think that it would be great for WCW to be seen as ambassadors for the United States

and to put on a wrestling show in North Korea. And I will wrestle in it. That's what, that's what, uh, Inoki was saying. He wanted to be the headliner of it. And, um, and Bischoff agreed to it. He asked Hulk Hogan to be the wrestler that was going to be in the main event. Hulk said no. He was like, no, no thank you.

I don't need to go to North Korea. So he went with the second best option on that. and he got Rick Flair to do it. So Rick Flair was going to be the headline wrestler, go over to North Korea. They brought a giant contingent of wrestlers from WCW. And the reason why WCW wanted to do this, it's not just like they didn't want to, you know, professional wrestling companies don't do anything just because they want to spread goodwill around the world. There's obviously like a monetary aspect involved in it.

And that was right in the middle of the battle between WCW and WWF, which then became WVE. but it was it was the Monday night what did they call the just the Monday night wars correct yeah so so WCW saw this as an opportunity to make a giant splash elevate their brand and also gain you know maybe a entire nation that was now going to be WCW fans so they agreed to it they brought a whole bunch of wrestlers over there Muhammad Ali also went on this trip and they did like a quick tour of the contrary, and the North Korean officials were walking them around, showing them all the monuments, and it was like the most sanitized tour possible that you could ever get of North Korea, just them showing, like, here's where dear leader sleeps. Yeah, and the rules were you had to be very, very polite the entire time. And one of the wrestlers that went over was named Scott Norton. And Scott Norton was in a hotel room. And he called his wife at home because his wife was very, very jealous. And she thought that every time he went on the road. He was like banging some strange tale. And so she was like, you're, you're out there partying it up. And I don't trust what you're doing over there just because

she was afraid that he was sleeping with other women. And he yelled back on the phone. He goes, no, it's not like that at all. You don't understand. This country is a shithole. And right after he said that, a bunch of North Korean security officials broke down the door, came into his hotel room, arrested him, took him in for questioning. He thought that he was going to die. He thought that they were going to execute them. They let them off with a warning, but they were, they had tapped every phone, every wrestler's phone was tapped. And they eventually let them off. And then they end up having the event. And there were 190,000 North Koreans there. What? Oh my God. A hundred 90,000. So whenever wrestling talks about their, they're like biggest audiences and the largest

live shows that they've ever done, they usually conveniently omit the North Korean show. but in reality it's the biggest live wrestling event of all time and there's not a really close second to that well biomass wise it might not be as much as an american like it is a midwestern show true it might not be the heaviest wrestling event ever yeah yeah definitely not i think if you have one in like wisconsin yeah if you if you had a if you did a uh w uwe event at Lambeau Field and you pack the stands, I think that would actually weigh more than 190,000 North Koreans and

Pyongyang. We're coming from this from the bread belt versus North Korea. If you're thinking to anything else, that's your problem. So they have this event and you might ask yourself like, what did the average North Korean citizen know about professional wrestling?

Because professional wrestling is not a thing in North Korea. They didn't know anything about it. They didn't know that it was fake. They didn't know that it was fake. They didn't know that any of the stuff was like scripted or a big theatric performance. They just knew that Rick Flair was there symbolizing the evil Americans

and so they booed the fuck. They hated Rick Flair and he like Rick Flair played into this whole like pro America thing while he was over there and they booed the shit out of them. And before the show, well actually I should say when they were being led around the country on

the like sightseeing tour they were going to like all these historical sites and the North Korean government was telling the professional wrestlers like Rick Flair and all those guys, you know, everything that you've been taught in school is a lie. North Korea actually won World War II, and we took over the world. And so they were just being like indoctrinated into all these North Korean beliefs. And so Rick Flair gets booed so hard by everybody.

They absolutely hate him. He goes out there and he gets pinned. He ends up losing the match to Yonoki. But they had no idea. that the entire thing was fake and before the event started they were out there and they asked Rick Flair to like read a statement denouncing the evilness of the United States of America and how much he loved North Korea and he said that he wouldn't read that statement but he did go out and talk about what a beautiful place North Korea was and how wonderful it was to be there and how great

everybody in North Korea was but I can only imagine how confused you would be as as somebody who had no idea that professional wrestling was even a thing or any of the lore behind any of the professional wrestlers. And you just, you think that you're at just a gladiator show basically with, you know, pyrotechnics. And they're probably like yelling, the ref turns his back. And they're like, why is the ref looking away? This is stupid. They were probably actually like, the pop when Yanokey went out there was probably like the biggest pop ever in the history of professional wrestling because they actually wanted him to murder Rick Flair in the ring. definitely he probably thought it was going to happen and anoki fun fact about him actually was involved

in what is considered the first mixed martial arts fight or bout of all time against mohammad ali they put together this hybrid rules match and it was horrendous it was just inoki constantly diving at his legs trying to get a take down when how mohammaid ali kind of ducking around him running around him it went to like a 15 minute draw where basically no punches or anything landed but people consider that the first mama fight Wow. I wanted to get into a little bit about the origins of professional wrestling, because that I find fascinating. Like one regular wrestling, there's a type of wrestling in every single culture across the earth. Like if you look at any single group of people, they all have some sort of wrestling statute.

Like that's just their own style, their own rules, and how like basically it came to the point where, you know, traveling carnies started wrestling. it's still like a carny business you hear that all the time wrestlers and people involved in the business are like oh yeah this is a fucking carny business and they have basically their own language like a carny language and like you said it started with like strong man competitions circuses where they realized what if we put together like this crazy feat of strength show that looks like a fight and gets the marks to pay so the marks in the circus back then if you saw an idiot out in a crowd and you were like oh my god we can get this guy to pay us as much as we want because he's so dumb

and he'll believe anything we tell him. They would put some chalk on their hands. They would give him a pat on the back and that was the mark. Now in wrestling, a mark means someone that gets so involved and they love it so much that they forget for a minute that wrestling's fake.

They're like, oh my God, how could you know this, that next thing? The marks wound up just being the audience for a couple of years and they started doing these like Greco-Roman wrestling competitions that were fixed, but fixed to be entertaining for the crowd.

and people would be betting on it having no idea. Eventually, it started like leaking in newspapers. Hey, this might be fixed. These guys knew each other. We saw them leaving together, you know, high-fiving and having friends. Wrestling went through a big down period during both world wars because everyone was obviously out at war. Nobody had money to spend on these shows.

But after the Second World War, there was a huge boom, not only in America, but in Japan, in Ireland, all over the world, basically. And that became in the United States, like the territory, So there was the Memphis territory, the New York territory, all these random ones. Vince McMahon's father, Vince McMahon Sr., was running the New York territory. He had Bruno Sam Martino for a little bit. He had Andre the Giant, who was a massive figure for them becoming the colossal giant that they are. No pun intended.

And in 1980, around the 1980s, wrestling saw its biggest boom, the first golden age of wrestling, really. Vince McMahon Sr. sold the company to his son for a dollar. basically just handed it down. And in the middle of the 80s, 1985 was WrestleMania 1. The rock and wrestling connection, Cindy Lauper was a huge part of it, just getting eyes on wrestling

and getting MTV crowds watching professional wrestling. And pretty much took off from there. Yeah. I mean, some of the guys... Wrestling is just a business where it's like, no matter what it takes, get people to pay tickets and watch on TV to whatever the spectacle is going to be.

it doesn't matter what they like it's going to be loosely based around wrestling and two dudes or two chicks just slamming each other in the ring but the idea is just no matter what it takes asses and seeds asses and seeds correct are we carnies is barstool carnies to a degree like we do kind of have our own you know k-fab and vocabulary and there's heels and baby faces and there's guys that come in green and sometimes you'll get potatoed and you got potatoed and you Got to give them a receipt and whatnot. So, like, in a way. Can you...

What is potato? Yeah. Explain all those terms. All right. So I had you up till potato, but maybe walk through the beginning of that. Listen, you get a rookie coming in. You say he's green as grass. That means he's not very good.

He's not very weathered in the business. He doesn't know how to wrestle yet. Getting potatoed means not knowing how to pull a punch and hitting someone in the face for real. Getting them way too good. And then if you get potatoed, you got to give them a receipt. you got to give one back. It's understood in the wrestling business. Once that receipt is given, all is fair.

It's all good. Huh. Got it. So, yeah, I would say Borsel definitely has. Barstle is basically WWE. We're very close. Just not scripted. Correct.

Verbal wrestling. There are people who genuinely believe that. They like everything we do here is fake. And I'm like, I would not have signed up for some of the things that have happened to me in this office if they were fake. I can assure you. Yeah, you and Rico really choreographed that fight well. well he missed so yeah who would who would be like fill in those rules who would be the baby

face who would be all those rules that's a good question i feel like you like you and big cat are to bit you're a huge baby face tag team barstool a longstanding everyone loves them you guys are almost demolition or the road warriors you know your music hits you get a road warriors level pop every time now heels brandon walker goes in and out of heel mode sometimes i think he would acknowledge as much as well. Dave goes in and out of heel mode sometimes. I think Dave always has people either on his side or vehemently against him. Who else would be?

I mean, Rico's a heel. Yeah, Rico's a heel, for sure. He's turning baby face nowadays. He's also, he definitely is, and I love Rico. I don't mean this in the wrong way, but Rico a few months ago was the perfect heel in that he was the heel who thought he was the baby face. Those are the best villains. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, that's always great. I would say Minahan. Minahan is a heel, but he's a heel that will, like, wink at you and let you let you know that he's in on it occasionally. Yeah. Yeah. And that's a thing where you come in and you potato Minnahan and you get a receipt. You might not be ready for that. What has Ben Mintz? Oh, great. He's a baby face. He's the lovable golden retriever. I think so, but I think there are a lot of people who would disagree with that. He's a heel to heels. Yeah, I don't know. I think he's, I think he's an interesting case study. Did you see him run the mile today? Yeah. I mean, that was as baby face is baby. He said, everyone was doubting me my whole life. I proved him all wrong twice. Like, that is that, that's Mick Foley being raised with the title. Nobody thought that, you know, the mama's boy could do it, but he did it. what was his time like 57 minutes he had a couple minutes to spare oh he beat he beat good for ben and he went dummy mode at the end he was full on sprint for the last lap it was crazy faster than i have ever run in my life i love that so so robby we had stone cold on the show and we're going to get to that interview in a little bit we're going to play that but um it was fascinating and a little sneak peek uh or sneak preview for it aryan and him came at it from a place of like mutual respect not really knowing like arian and doesn't really know that much about wrestling but stone cold was like a fan of aryans and respected the work that he put in in the NFL and so they had this cool little bond and aryan just kind of like asked me like hey i don't know much about wrestling can you just tell me like how do you guys how do you guys do it and he gave this really long thoughtful really interesting explanation in his mind of just like why professional wrestling exists how they set it up why it's popular and it's a question

I bet Stone Cold doesn't get that much because when he's being interviewed by somebody they're usually trying to ask him a detail about a specific point wrestling. The interviewer usually comes at it from a point of being a wrestling expert and it was cool to see his explanation behind everything.

But, Aryan, I guess I'll let you talk your first thing because I know that you didn't grow up watching wrestling. You're not like a wrestling guy. But Robbie is the most passionate person in the world about wrestling, and he absolutely loves it. And so I don't know if you have any questions about, like, being a wrestling fan or how that happens or why you love it, but I wanted to see if you wanted to kind of

like talk to Robbie about that, because I've been a lot of people out that they're listening might not be wrestling fans just like you. Yeah, no, so I didn't grow up watching it, one, because I didn't have cable. And two, it was just never, like, in my household, it was never like a thing. all the neighborhood kids would gather and watch it at his one dude's house and I was just never into it even when I would go over there I would just like end up doing something else it just never appealed to me and I used to like actively talk shit about people who liked it I was I was that guy like it's fake why do you watch that shit but as I grow as I grew old I kind of get and you understand the appeal of it but as a kid I didn't understand how kids could have the appeal of something that wasn't real. if you could dive into the psychology of what was appealing for you, like, as a kid, you know, knowing it was fake but still getting into the lore of it. Absolutely.

And that's like a big part of being a wrestling fan and growing up a wrestling fan is getting bullied for liking wrestling at some point in your life. All kids go through this phase where you go to kindergarten. And this, for me, wrestling's been a part of my life for as long as I could remember. Like my earliest memories as a two and three-year-old are watching wrestling VHS tapes with my older brother. And I was never, I never came at it from the point of view of like, this is real and I think it's real. My brother, who's 12 years older than me, always presented it in a way like, this is fake. They're not, it's like they're actors, but it's awesome. It's like

superheroes, but they're actually performing in front of a crowd. You could go to these events. You could cheer for them. They could get in your face at one of these events and yell at you. It's very interactive in that way. So I was in from the second I saw it, the action figures too, the toys, everything about wrestling appealed to me. Then you go through the phase probably around 6th and 7th grade when it's no longer cool to like wrestling. And people are making fun of you for watching wrestling. You got to hide your action figures and your video games when people come over and whatnot. And for me, wrestling is the ultimate good guy versus bad guy. And it's like an art form to tell that story in as many different ways as you could possibly think up. So it's like the

question of who's the greatest wrestler of all time is impossible to answer for me because it's like saying who's the greatest artist of all time there's just so many routes you could take it there's wrestling matches that are straight up comedies start to finish last year at wrestlemania johnny knoxville came and had a street fight with sammy zane they were using human-sized mouse traps they were used like we man came out hit a slam um like everyone was involved from jackus they used the giant hand to smack somebody then there's wrestling matches that There's such drama-filled roller coasters that I'm in tears at the end. And I'm crying.

And I'm like, they just encapsulated a seven-month-long storyline in 30 minutes and made grown men in the crowd that know this is fake, that know this is silly. It's grown men in their underwear fake fighting. They're playing dress up and fake fighting. But it makes us like feel something. Because I think the live aspect is another huge thing. It's like going to a Broadway show. If you could go every single week, keep up with it, the stories, the characters of it. evolve and at the same time it's the only show other than the Muppets in my eyes that's a show about

the show so you see a match and then you cut to backstage and they're like we got to think of a main event for tonight and then two guys get into a brawl backstage and you're like oh I guess that's the main event now it's booked for the show that and then also the politics like the real life politics of wrestling is as interesting as the real life politics of anything and it's like watching succession right now especially with Vince McMahon selling the company, his daughter leaving the company, Triple H, his son-in-law is still running it and creative control

of things. There's so many, like, things about wrestling that are just fascinating. I've been watching since I was three years old. I haven't missed a WrestleMania since. This year was my 20th WrestleMania I watched, and like, that is my Christmas. I would never miss one. Can I give a far less

eloquent answer to your question from my time following wrestling, which is about 15 years ago now? But it was fucking bad. ass. Yeah. It was really cool. I, like 2007, like 2006, 7, 8, I was, I went to, uh, backlash.

Hell yeah. In 2007, it was in Atlanta. And that was like the coolest shit I've ever been to. It was, I, I, I loved wrestling when I was a kid. It was just, it was awesome. And it was like, your, your parents, my parents wouldn't let me like watch things like TV, like if they knew a TV show like that, was bad like obviously they wouldn't let me watch out but wrestling they said cuss words and stuff and

they were like yeah and it was just it was awesome Vince McMahon killed himself yeah I was gonna say I I brought I don't know if you guys wanted to get into it but I brought a couple different topics today that we could get into one is Vince McMahon killing himself one is Vince McMahon versus God um one is the most chaotic Royal Rumble of all time where Vince tore both of his quads in real life just trying to get into the ring that was very funny and then I had the uh the ladder match for of a child. I'm unfamiliar with Vince McMahon versus God. So this was, I want to get into that one too, but I just want to say, like, to wrap

up what you guys just went through right there. You guys said the exact same thing as each other, just Robbie, Robbie explained why it was badass, like all the stuff that he just went through, like it, the net result is like an equation. Everything Robbie said, like the parts of the equation, and then the answer to the math problem is big t just being like it fucking rocks fucking badass yeah i actually when i first started watching wrestling i did think it was real because my parents wouldn't let me watch tv after a certain time so whenever i was watching wrestling they didn't know i was watching wrestling because i was up late so

so you had no one to explain it to you no one to explain it to me so i was like oh man like this really this is insane so like edge is having sex in the ring yeah so you said so you said you knew from the beginning, it was fake. Yeah, I cannot recall a time in my life where there was like a revelation of like, wait, what? Because I was adamant, it was real. I told anybody that would listen. No, yeah. I don't remember explicitly like finding out or when I like knew that, but I was adamant for a very long time that it was not. So you just gradually accepted it. I think so, yeah. And I think by the time I finally like didn't really watch anymore, that was probably about then. It's like Santa Claus. My buddies and I would do.

the moves on each other at recess and then they would like then our teacher would be like wrestling's fake and we thought they were saying it was fake so that we'd stop doing the moves to each other yeah and I was like they just don't want us wrestling I went as far as like I don't I think

you know this PFT but I went as far as thinking that wrestling was my dream and my goal in life and I for a year in high school my junior year of high school did go mad which is gallon of milk a day and I was just putting on pounds putting on pounds put I put on 40 pounds over my junior year, went from like 120s to 160. I was very proud of myself. I was going to the gym four

times a week. And that summer, I went into wrestling school, one of the best wrestling schools in the country, create a pro. And I lasted a month and a half. And it was, it was very, very, very painful. I was not good at it. Look at my body type. Obviously, I should have known better. I was in school with MJF at the time. So I was going to ask if anybody that you were with made it. So that's the MJF actually just roasted me on Twitter yesterday. I said I didn't know how to do a role when we were in school together, which is true. I felt like I was going to break my neck doing a simple role in the ring. But yeah, that was for a long time. I thought, this is my goal. This is my dream. I will be a wrestler when I grow up. I'll be in the main event of

WrestleMania. When did they, how many times they proposition you with steroids while you're in that school? Never, but I was told instantly like you're going to have to wrestle under a hood, which means we're going to have to put you in like a luchador mask because you look way too young. Oh. Yeah. But I was never proposition with steroids because the indie scene in wrestling is a little more like the wrestling nerds like me that are like we care about this so much that like you know we want to get into it and then they're like the skinny guys that you know not not always i'm not trashing on all indie wrestlers but a lot of times don't make it so let's get into v man versus god because yeah big tea my ears perk right up when i heard that this is great and

i'm surprised big tea actually doesn't know about it because it is in your sweet spot this is like 2006. I may have known at the time. I don't recall. So, God, is your sweet spot? No, time-wise, he said. Okay, got you. So Vince McMahon, as I mentioned, in 2005, had to run into the ring to make an impromptu call during the Royal Rumble and tore both of his quads, just sliding into the ring. It is such a funny clip. He sits down. He has this angry look on his face. When he returns from injury, though, he brings back this ultimate bad guy person. The Mr. McMahon persona that you know and love, that Stone Cold, the guest on this podcast, got famous for feuding with throughout the years. So he has this whole thing where he's firing people left and right, the classic Vincent Pan, you're fired.

You know, he says that in that voice. And he starts to kiss my ass club. So whenever someone pisses him off, Vince McMahon takes his pants, puts him around his ankles, and they have to kiss his ass, literally. Kiss his bare ass. So he did this with Jim Ross, did this with various wrestlers. Sean Michaels confronts him and he's like, grow up, motherfucker. You can't make these people kiss your ass constantly.

So Vince McMahon doesn't take too kindly to this. And he says, Sean, you and me are now basically in a feud. He distracts Sean during the Royal Rumble. He gets eliminated from behind. He makes Sean kiss his ass eventually, has him knocked out. Michael throws piss on Vince.

He has a cup of piss that Vince is like you're going to fail a drug test. So he pissed into a cup, threw it on Vince. It's getting ugly. Really, really ugly. Sean Michaels at this point is a born again Christian in real life. He had a very bad drug addiction for a while, got into religion and became sober. This was very much a part of his life and he was open about it. So it was part of his character as well. Vince McMahon says, all right, we got a handicap match now. It's going to be you and God versus me. Okay? So they book this match for, I believe

it might have been a backlash and McMahon starts saying that he's going to convert Sean to McMahonism. He does videos in churches where he takes baptism water and he spits it in the air like Triple H. It is getting ugly and religious people are very upset at the WWE. They're protesting shows at this point. But also Sean Michaels is like their guy. He's a real born again Christian. So they're like, as much as we hate this feud, we do want Sean Michaels to kick this guy's ass. So they have the match. It's the pay-per-view. They have a full entry. for God where they have like holy music playing the lights go out in the arena and just a single spotlight goes on the stage and it follows nothing down to the ring and they they kicked

Sean Michael's ass. They had the spirit squad come in. I don't know if you remember them. They were Vince McMahon's personal cheerleaders, a team of five cheerleaders. And yeah, God and Sean Michaels did lose that match. So currently in the WWE, God's record is 0 and 1. So now that you mention all that. I do vaguely recall this going on. And I actually, I remember all the Sean Michael stuff because I read his book when I was a kid. He came out with a book that talked a lot about being a Christian and stuff like that. And I remember reading his book. And now I do vaguely remember that. So that was at Backlash in 2006. And I went to Backlash in 2007. Did I still do that? Is that still a paper? Yeah. Backlash is the next one coming up. It's the first one after

at WrestleMania. This year, it's going to be the first backlash ever in Puerto Rico, and Bad Bunny will be wrestling. Bad Bunny's wrestled before, and he's very good, actually. He grew up a huge wrestling fan, and he took it very seriously. So before his WrestleMania match, he put in like seven weeks of training and got real serious about it. So he's been making appearances in the WWE left and right. Robbie, I got a question for you. Is there a certain celebrity or public figure out there that you think would be good at this if they tried? Like, is there somebody that has never entered the world of professional wrestling that you think could end up being like a massive,

massive draw and very good at it? I think there's an easy answer right now and it would be Jake Paul because Logan Paul has doven into the WWE and he is unbelievable. He's only had a couple matches. I think maybe three, four matches, one of those being a royal rumble. So it's not like a one-on-one thing, but at his current experience level, he's as good as anyone's ever been. What about Charles Barkley? Barkley, no, he's cooked. But Shaq had a match. I was there live for a Shaq match.

Me and Brandon Walker went down to AEW to do a little segment with Chris Jericho, and Shaq had his first match that night, went through a table, he was doing choke slams, he was pulling people from the crowd, throwing him into the ring. It was really good, actually. I've got another one, J.J. Watt. He is the ultimate baby face, right? I see, I go back and forth because Gronk had a really bad run into WV.E. Everyone always said Gronk would be the best wrestler. He came in, he did a couple things. He was really afraid of taking any bumps. There was one bump in particular. He was just

supposed to dive off of, like, maybe a 10 foot tall, like, banner, essentially. And he was so afraid to do it that 73-year-old Vince McMahon went and did it before the show just to show him, stop being a pussy. Well, wasn't Gronk still playing at that time? He was still playing when he did like a run-in at WrestleMania, but at that point he was retired. They made him the W.W.E. 24-7 champ, and it fizzled out so quick. I've got, I've got somebody who I don't know if he'd be good, but hopefully he's searching for employment soon. Y'all might not be familiar with the work of Marcelo Zuna, but he's the worst player in Major League Baseball. He plays for the Braves. Ultimate Heel. A couple of arrests, domestic violence and a DUI, just the biggest

piece of shit. He's a heel, yeah. Yeah, piece of shit, awful that you could imagine. I think, I think he could do some work as a heel and hopefully he's released soon. If Trey Young put on the weight, he would be good. Trey Young would be awesome. Yeah, that's actually a good one. He's actually made an appearance before at MSG, which was huge. I remember that now. Yeah, it was like right after, it was that summer after the playoff series that the Hawks won here. It was actually on September 11th. Never forget. I was at the show. Oh, was it? Yeah. And he went and did that. Yeah, I remember that now. He would be awesome. He would be great. I just watched the match where Edge sleeps with, uh, what's your face? With Lita. So that wasn't a match. That was just a live sex

celebration after Edge won the title. They put a, they put a mattress in the ring and they went to town on each other. Leah, Lita actually had her boob fallout during that segment. Yeah. I might need to start watching wrestling again. Is it, do you, what's your favorite, like, era of wrestling. Like, do you think it's as good right now? No, God, no. No, no, no. Um, like, um, I'm with your era essentially. So like the era when I was a baby, the attitude era is considered the goat by many. But like for me, like the ruthless aggression era, the Ray Mysterio, Eddie Guerrero, Brock Lesnar, Edge, Kurt Engel era. That's like what I grew up watching. So that is like my golden era. Now, for the last year, Vince McMahon stepped down. Triple

H took over the company and the product got exponentially better. Like, Vince McMahon has lost his touch for a decade plus. He hasn't really been very good at his job. And that has shown ratings, ticket sales, lowest they've ever been in WWA. Triple H takes over. Everything turns around. Ratings, ticket sales highest they've ever been. Now Vince is back.

He's got a mustache and things are going downhill again. Yeah, he looks like that guy. Slightly unrelated. I remember, like, a bunch of kids when I was growing up, they were super, obsessed with Goldberg, I think he was a Goldberg, Goldberg, and he was like undefeated or something like that. And then like, he like lost a match or something. I vaguely remember this. That was one of the biggest storylines of the entire 1990s. Goldberg was the WCW's answer to WWF being so good at the time. Like they were in the Monday Night Wars battling each other out for ratings every night

on at the same time every night. And Goldberg, a guy who came from the NFL actually, he played in like one game maybe for the falcons he was just this monster and they were like what if we had someone who just comes in and wrecks shit like beats people in 10 seconds doesn't even need to cut a promo and this is the era where Hulk Cohen and Stone Cold like they're cutting the greatest promos wrestling's ever seen

they're like this guy's just going to be a silent killer and he went all the way up to a hundred and seventy three and oh before he lost and his loss is considered one of the cheesiest worst botched decisions in wrestling history because his loss was eventually they just tased him the NWO came out with a taser

they tased Goldberg till he was on the ground and they lost where a lot of wrestling fans would say that was an opportunity to have someone beat Goldberg clean in the middle of the ring one two three and launched them to superstardom based on that

what's your least favorite decision that was ever made in WWA that is that's tough because the last decade, 15 years, Vince McMahon has made some horrendous decisions, like truly, truly bad. I think the decision to put Roman Raines over in the main event of this year's WrestleMania is as bad as I've ever seen.

And I like Roman Raines. His current title reign has been very good, but it's been going on for three years, which is unheard of the entire attitude era lasted for three years. So that's like we're in the Roman Raines era. They had Cody Rhodes come in, an Atlanta guy himself, and he was, is as over as any baby face since Daniel Bryan, any good guy in the last 10 years. The crowd wanted to

see him win this title so bad. Everyone was behind him. It seemed like it was time. And they just had Roman Raines win. And right now we're back in the same spot we were months ago. I think it's a Vince McMahon decision. I think he came in and told Triple H, we're going to ask the Cody Rhodes make the fans happy title run.

And we're just going to stay on course with Roman. That might be too inside baseball for the podcast. I'm saying you're, like, the, the, like, he's asking you, like, when he's one up and you just fired it off. It's, it's fascinating how this is definitely your wheelhouse, bro. I live and breathe wrestling. I got a wrestling tattoo on my wrist.

I used to put wrestling rings together at local indie shows just because I wanted to be involved. I wanted to be around wrestlers. So I would reach out to him. I taught myself graphic design in high school and would reach out to wrestlers and say, if you could get me into this show, I'll do five shirts for you for free. And that's how I got into, like, I had wrestling. connections before Barstool even. And when I got hired by Barstool, we were actually banned by the WWE for media because

the one man thrill ride went and made a video at WrestleMania 32, man on the street, and he called wrestling fans like virgins. It was a funny video, but the WWE didn't appreciate it. So I had to like go on a phone call with the WWE head of PR my first like couple months here before we started from the top rope, be like, I swear I love wrestling more than anyone. I'm not going to shit on it. I am the virgin that they're talking about. What made thrill ride was working for us?

No, it was just like a freelance video. Like they hired him to do a video at WrestleMania, you know, they paid him to do a video at WrestleMania. Yeah. Do you have a favorite match ever? I do. The main event of WrestleMania 30. It was Daniel Bryan versus Batista versus Randy Orton.

And Daniel Brian wins in the ultimate underdog story. He had a match earlier in the night just to make it into the main event. And Daniel Brian was really my guy. He was a guy that got signed by the WWE in 2009. I knew of him already from the American Legion Halls and indies that he was working. So I was rooting for him, and he was a short guy with a beard who does not look like your typical John Cena professional wrestler.

Everyone told him for 20 years, you will never make it in this business. You're too tiny. Your style doesn't work. It's too submission focused. And for him to reach the pinnacle of the business, winning the title in the main event of WrestleMania, it's like winning Best Actor if it meant the company is now putting their trust in you for the next however many months. So that match, that made me cry at the end.

Literally had tears streaming down my face. That's awesome. So when would you say the, on my bet, when would you say the apex of the height of wrestling was when it's that it's the most popular it's ever been? When was that? Like 98, 99 in Stone Cold's era when it was Stone Cold versus the rock and they were the feud. Because like those two, you could call each one of them the greatest wrestler of all time and nobody's going to argue with you.

and they were feuding with each other. They had three WrestleMania matches, 15, 17, and 19 put on the biggest WrestleMania of all time, the greatest WrestleMania of all time at 17. So that was the best. And it was also, you had WCW being so good, making the WWF strive to be better every week. So they were really like making each other better week to week. You had The Undertaker, Kane, Mankind, Triple H, like these icons of the business still to this day that are looked back at as the best.

WWE is still kind of like living off that era. I always say it sometimes feels like the WWE makes so many documentaries about the attitude era that it's like if HBO never made another show after The Sopranos and was just dedicated to talking about how great they were when the Sopranos was on. You've talked to Stone Cold at some point, right? Yeah, he's been on the podcast before he is. He's the man. The absolute man and his podcast, he's a podcast and then a show on Peacock or the WWE Network where he has wrestlers on and they'll watch matches. and break down the psychology of why they chose to do that,

why they chose to get the crowd ramped up in this moment. Like stuff that wrestling nerds obsess over, and he's so open about. I'm sure, like you were saying before, about just describing how you put together matches and stuff. Like, he appreciates the business. And he's also not one of these old-timers who's like, oh, back in my day, he appreciates what's going on now.

He gives advice to wrestlers now. He's everything you would want in terms of, like, the goat. you would want him to be that way for this generation. He's probably, he might be my favorite guest we've ever had. Really? I loved, I loved, and I didn't even talk to him that much. I asked him, like, one question, but I just loved the conversation. And you could just tell that, like, he's the man.

Yeah, no, I couldn't tell by your expression. But I'm going to watch it, I'm going to watch it back and see if I can see if I can see face. He needs to come in person. He needs to come in person, stay on for a full show. because I bet he has some hot takes. What do you think of the WWE so intertwined with Saudi Arabia? They might sell to Saudi Arabia. Well, they're not anymore.

So they're sold now. They sold to WME, I amg, the company that owns the UFC Endeavor. So that I was worried that they were going to sell with Saudi Arabia. I hate their relationship with Saudi Arabia. It's like blood money. Saudi Arabia's killing journalists over there, but they'll take the WWE. I think it's shady. WWE's got wrestlers on the roster who are Muslim and not welcome over there.

like they're from Syria and not welcome over there so I hate that man like the shows always feel lesser than as well like the shows out there they'll bring back legends that should have no business being in the ring anymore like Goldberg actually and like Goldberg and Undertaker had a match there where they almost killed each other like multiple times because they're just too old to be picking each other up and whatnot they actually once said I think it was the first Saudi Arabia show they said we would like Yoko Zuna and the ultimate warrior to make appearances and then WWE was like, well, they both died many years ago. So we don't know what we're going to tell you there.

And they literally put someone else in face paint and hired a sumo wrestler to come in. Not to play those characters, but essentially to play those characters. Like they didn't call them that, but everyone knew it was happening there. So I hate that relationship. I wish it didn't exist. Even the way that, like, they treat it like, oh, look at these women like making history over here and showing girls what you could do. They still make the women cover up in a certain way. and separate the crowd in a certain way

where it's like it feels more like they're trying to like show something than actually make change. Yeah. What about the stuff? Remember when John Cena had to apologize to China? That was fucking weird. I think that's more, I also think that's more John Cena than like wrestling or WWE.

Like he, like, I don't know if I should say he loves like that relationship. But like for movies, obviously he loves that. He has a Chinese audience going to Bumblebee and whatnot. not that was weird though yeah he said Taiwan wasn't a country yeah he said like he was talking about Taiwan and he said it was a country and then he had to apologize for it right I think he just mentioned Taiwan in passing he was like yeah we have a show in Taiwan and then he like apologized to China for saying China like it wasn't China and that that was a thing for years that Sina was like learning Mandarin every night he would dedicate like an hour a night

to learn Mandarin just to expand his global audience yeah that viral video of him is so funny just speaking Mandarin being chilling with ice he had a crazy schedule too like when you go in for a tryout at wwee i don't know if they still do this but years ago they would just lay out johnsina's schedule in front of you and they'd be like do you want this this is your future you sleep for four hours a night you do media for two hours a day you do workouts for two hours a day you do make a wish for one hour a day like you do meal prep and then you get in the car and you drive to the next city he's doing his own meal prep i don't know probably not but yeah but his

schedule I remember specifically them being like he sleeps four hours a night and being like holy shit I don't want that life how do you think remember you know something a story from wd you that always interests me but I don't have much of the inside like info on the Chris Benoit story oh yeah like way to where to really give us a turn here what the biggest downer you could ever come up with we're talking wrestling I want to hear like you want to hear me said Chris Benoit killed his wife and kid no no like what like how did they handle that didn't There's something. Yeah, it almost took the WWE down pretty much.

Yeah, that's what I want to hear about how they, like, dealt with it. I don't know about this story. Tell me about this story. So Chris Benoit was a wrestler for the WWE, the rabid Wolverine he was called. He was this short, stocky guy who everyone loved. He was like a fan favorite and diehard wrestling fans were like, that guy knows how to wrestle. He also had a huge underdog story, like one in the main event of wrestlemania, very similar to like the story I described with Daniel Bryan. and then one day

didn't show up to work and the next day it came out that he killed his wife and child and then killed himself in a murder suicide like the craziest shit you could imagine this almost took the WWE down because they started looking into his brain

and saying this guy had a ton of concussions and he was also loaded on steroids like in the late stages of Benoit's life his body is scary to look at the veins popping out the way he pops out of his tights like it was scary So Vince and other wrestlers, like retired wrestlers, were going on CNN and Fox News and NBC and basically every news platform you can and being set like having to defend professional wrestling. Like this didn't happen because he took so many blows or this didn't happen because he took steroids.

This just happened because he went crazy. And then you have Chris Benoit's friends who were like this, he like it had to have, something had to have caused a snap because he was the greatest guy in the world for years. it was a huge thing like eventually i guess it kind of like faded away did they find any reason for it he was just random like they did brain scans and he definitely had cTE and he definitely was loaded on steroids so people pointed to royd rage or cTE being the reason behind it but there was never like i guess a conclusive like this is why he snapped probably steroid psychosis possibly and something if you load someone up with like a ton of testosterone Billy has cracked the case, y'all.

No, no, no, but, like, there's been recent events of people being pumped full of testosterone committing crazy violent acts. So, and something we mentioned before, which hopefully will make this conversation take a lighter turn, Vince McMahon once killed himself on TV. Like, the ending of Monday Night Raw once was Vince McMahon going out to his limo, getting in the limo, and the second he gets in, the limo explodes. I remember watching that live. It was shocking. I remember watching it live as well. Stories came out that I think they did it in Connecticut or something. Everyone in the arena apparently called the police and was like Vince McMahon just died.

Like you need to get ambulances and fire trucks to the arena immediately. Donald Trump called the WWE headquarters to offer his condolences to Vince. Like crazy shit. Chris Benoit kills his wife and kid like two days later. So Vince McMahon has to go on television. Was it really? Yeah, he has to go on television right after he, quote unquote, died and said, Hey, I'm alive. That was a storyline and this is not a storyline. That's crazy. I didn't know those were at the same time. Also a horrible aspect of it. They were in the middle of a Crispinwa tribute show when the news came out that it was a murder suicide. Initially they were like Chris Benoit died. Let's do a tribute show and talk about how great of a guy he was. And like literally like Raw was on it 9 to 11 at like 10 p.m. It was like murder suicide. Wow. Jesus. Is there any foot like? No. There is no.

footage billy i don't know why he would want to see it they're like of them finding out no i don't think so like jesus crazy shit though yeah that that was that was that was a bad time to be a wrestling fan i had no idea about any of that that's wow well damn man so what is the uh we got wrap up here in a second man but what is the future do you think of of wrestling like where does it go from here wrestling is in an amazing spot right now because it's not just the wwee you have a ewe out there which I don't know if you've heard of all elite wrestling. Cody Rhodes, basically in 2016, the son of Dusty Rhodes, felt like he wasn't in a good spot. He was stuck in the midcard.

They were giving him a gimmick that was very much like Gold Dust. I don't know if you remember Gold Dust. That's his half-brother. So they basically made him Gold Dust too. And he was like, fuck this. He was making great money, but he wasn't happy. So he left. He linked up with Tony Khan, who, you know, his father owns the Jaguars, hooked up with the young bucks.

And they started an alternative company, basically being WWE's, first true quote unquote rival since WCW. And now they're not a rival in the sense that they'll never put WWE out of business. It's a billion dollar thriving business. But there are a real alternative for wrestling fans who maybe don't want such a family friendly side of wrestling. You can tune into AEW. See blood.

You could see people say shit. You could say fuck. You could like, it's a lot more adult centered. And you've also got the indies out there. And you've got such great access to Japanese wrestling and British wrestling, which is, as good as it's ever been as well. There's, like, different styles all over the world. So Japanese, little harder hitting, British, a little more grappling.

And there's just so much accessibility in wrestling that I really think it's like, right now is the best time to be a wrestling fan in my lifetime. Wow. That's, that's wild because I didn't even know that shit was still going on. That's crazy. Oh, yeah. We got to get you to a show. I think you would love a live show.

I'm definitely going down to go, man. I'm getting my live appearances up, man. And Caleb do a live show last year, and he was over the moon. He was like, this is fucking amazing. He never had any interest in wrestling. In my experience, Aaron, you can correct me if I'm wrong. Arian has liked everything I've ever been to him with that was in person. Oh, yeah.

You'll love wrestling. Hockey. Hockey. Arian loved. Baseball. I think wrestling would be the same. The number one thing in person that when I take people to their first wrestling show, which has happened a bunch of this point, Glennie, Caleb, Fidelberg, so many people,

they cannot believe how hard the wrestlers are hitting. each other and landing in real life they're like holy shit i thought this was fake and it's like it is but they're getting hurt out there and you're just watching them put their bodies on the line to do you know flip off the top rope through a table and then someone comes in with barbed wire and scrapes their forehead and there's blood everywhere like how could you not be entertained by that that could be part of your guys video series yes oh an indie show if i brought you guys to an indie like a punk rock wrestling show you guys would be like what the fuck are we You got to get out of the way so people don't dive on top of it.

That'd be sick. Yeah. Is that like the Peter Parker thing? Remember that? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. We're bringing to one of those. Definitely down for one of those.

Yeah. Definitely down for one of those. That made me think wrestling was real because I saw Spider-Man. He had to win the match. He had to win the match. Like when Spider-Man got thrown in one of these, like what? He would have known who was fake. And you know who he was against, right?

Who? His macho man Randy Savage. Yes. Playing Bonesaw. He said, Bonesaw. is ready. I meant to wear my macho man Randy Savage shirt today

and I forgot. I've got a sick macho man shirt. I'll show it to you with. I bet you do, man. Well, shit, man, we appreciate having you on, brother.

Yeah, thank you for having me. I appreciate you. I'm a fan of macrodosing, so it's an honor to be on for the first time. Much love, man. Much love, yeah.

A wealth of knowledge, brother. I mean, where can people's, I mean, do we plug you? Yeah, my mom's basement's my show.

We talk about wrestling sometimes. We talk about nerdy shit. We talk about music. We kind of talk about anything under my passions. But check out my mom's basement on YouTube. An amazing interview with Connor McGregor. One of the best Carmen Greger interviews I've ever seen

was on my mom's basement with Robbie. That's awesome of you to say. Honestly, probably like the most personable Connor McGregor has ever seen in media ever. Pretty down to earth, yeah. Yeah. Also, Aaron, Robbie is on the number one ranked dozen team right now. So he is your competition.

Oh, yeah. That's true. We're on the honkers. Yeah. Oh, so fuck you then. Yeah. hope we see you soon that's right we on the come up yes sir yes i appreciate you coming in though brother thank you roby thanks guys all right so pft came up with a really good idea he had to shake um he's teaching uh some senior shit and some golf or something like that but uh he came up with a really dope idea um and so he had everybody come up with a character a wrestling character

for everybody else on the pot and i like i did him him he did me and uh big tea and billy did each other did you did you i didn't did you mackenzie did you no did you i like thought of it but i don't have like an exact i could like say my couple ideas that i have i have a couple ideas but i don't i don't know all of this stuff you guys is sorry no i didn't either i just no i did it but i don't know about wrestling that much so i don't even know what i could i could say what was in my head but same i'll start with i'll start with mine because it's going to be so underwhelming because I'm not really good

at understanding wrestling so I did PFT and should we just read his for my? Yeah do what PFT sent. All right so PFT sent this for me he said I am a

socialist wolf hunter who slices up all of the opponents title belts and distributes them to the audience And so mine for him was, I gave him an intro song. Have y'all ever heard The Weight by the band? Yes. Yes, that's perfect.

So his backstory is he's like a rebel hippie stoner that fights corporate corruption. And his finishing move is flying high off the ropes. So it's called and he just jumps off the ropes. I don't know. It does some cool shit. I don't know enough about it. And his outfit would be all tie-dye, but the pants because I don't want to see his drawers. So just tie-dyes and black boots.

fire hell yeah so so i've got billy um billy football is is still his name in this because that's a good that's actually a good wrestling name also um so his backstory is uh he was kicked out of the NFL for being too hardcore so he had to come be a wrestler and his entrance music is bah wita bob by kid rock and and part of his storyline is that he sometimes just doesn't show up to the fights, so you never actually know when he's on the card if he's going to be wrestling or not. And then his finishing move is called the embellisher. Hey, yo, fuck that. You got to do everybody, though. You got to do everybody. You should have been left. Let me do Big T. Yeah, go ahead. So Big T is

also Big T. I actually was thinking when we're doing this. I was like, we all kind of have names that would be good wrestling names. Like, I don't know what you would change. I don't. Yeah. You have Bobby Fino. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Mad Dog 2020. So Big T, his entrance is Rocky Top. I mean, that was a little obvious. His outfit is, you know, Cain's outfit when he has the mask. That outfit without the mask, but orange with an orange visor. And his finishing move is.

the big taint buster can you explain that really loves that he's cracking his sofa no because I have it in my head what he does well go let let us know

he finished the person up and he just drops them on his knee he is really proud of this Why is this so, it's funny to me because it's so funny to you. I'm just trying to understand. Have you all seen the TikTok of the kid? It's the kid from Lizzie McGuire and he's going to the premiere some movies.

Like I'm really looking forward to cracking up. I've cracked up in a while. I really want to crack up tonight. And then he, like part of his routine is he just like he does at our live shows. He goes into the crowd and he just owns the libs by finding them and owning them. detector test in an arena would go crazy and he does long monologues about what

pisses him off about the country I think it would be a great character I think I think I think WWE needs a little social commentary character from the other side right about now that's hilarious Bigsy I think you should do everybody

bro next next episode you should do everybody I'll see yeah I'll try to come up with one for you and PFT And Maddie and McKinney, that should be funny as hell, though. Mine wouldn't be as funny as Big T's. Yeah, that was good. Thank you. Yeah, I'm glad I went first.

Holy shit. I thought it was pretty simple, but... Yeah. You're a funny, you're a funny dude, bro. I appreciate that. You are too. Yeah. Yeah, thanks, man.

Yeah, so I think that's a good segue into we interview the legend, Stone Cold, a really dope interview PFT is there for it and I don't know, it's just a really dope interview to interview a legend like that so without further ado, here go to legend. All right, we now welcome on a very special guest

it is Mr. Stone Cold, Steve Austin. Mr. Austin, you came into the studio maybe a year, year and a half ago and you sat down with myself and Big Cat. I don't know if you remember that Big Cat gave you the shirt off his back. He tried to hand it to you. I do remember that.

Yeah, it was a very fun interview. It was one of those pinch yourself moments for anybody that grew up in the 1990s watching wrestling, a living legend, Stone Cold, graced us with his presence. He's back on, he's on macrodosing right now, and we're talking to him about his new show. Stone Cold takes on America. It premieres Sunday, April 30th at 10 p.m. Eastern on A&E. So this, I was doing some reading about this show. You're just driving around the country in an RV meeting people? Is that – and they're challenging you to do stuff?

Is that – do I have that right? Well, I mean, in the basic premise, yeah, I'm traveling around a country in an RV. But, you know, you've got to set up things, make arrangements for things to happen. So, yeah, I mean, we're looking at a schedule, but that being said, the way this show got put together, it got put together, you know, real quickly. and when it finally, well, it took a long time and when it got green lit, my wife and I were sitting there thinking, well, it's almost winter.

Surely they're going to push until spring when the weather gets better. Now we're ready to go in November. And so, you know, winters in my area of northern Nevada get pretty extreme. So there's a lot of arrangements, a lot of details that have to happen. You know, some of the stuff that was, you know,

high on the adrenaline factor, you've got to set those things up in advance and book them. But yeah, it's me driving around the country with a crew of 12. And when we first started out, we was complete strangers. But by the time we ended it, we'd become the best of friends. And we weathered a lot of storms both good and bad. That's what I love about RV life.

Once a year, we go on a big trip. We used to do them all the time here. And we would just get into a van or RV drive across the country. And by the end of it, we were like best friends with our bus driver. And he was like coming on our show interacting with us. Being on the road with somebody, you learn a lot about them. Well, you mean, absolutely. And, you know, like some of the times when things would get hectic,

you know, my crew would be looking at me waiting for me to, I'll know, maybe they were looking for Stone Cold, the guy that they had remembered from the ring. And it's like, you're not worried about this? You're not, you're not angry? No. I said, this is what, I've been in television since 1990. I know things, it's a world of hurry up and wait. It's a world where things break down and go bad.

And so why get stressed out when, you know, if you just remain calm, you're going to come to the solution at a quicker pace. So I grew up RV in my whole life. My dad took us on hunting trips. We went on vacations. My wife and I are avid RVers. We camp a lot. And so in the show, when I got pissy-eyed with this show,

you know, the person pitched it to me said, Hey man, do you want to travel? I said, well, I don't mind traveling, but if I'm going to travel, I want to drive rather than fly. And so I stayed every single night other than one because of weather issues we're working on. I lived in that RV for five months. I drove every single mile of every trip. I was behind the wheel with my crew. I had five or six people in my RV who had a production RV and a couple of v and a couple of trucks following.

But I drove every mile, and I loved every minute up because if I got to steer one on my hand, I'm happy. I used to live the life, you know, of a professional wrestler on the road. So it's a passion of mine, and I just figured I got paid to go out and do a bunch of badass activities and have fun. Yeah, it sounds amazing. So who is in charge of emptying the gray water on that RV? Was that you? It sounds like you take matters into your own hands. Hey, here's the thing.

when you go in, you plug in at an RV park or you're hooking up your hoses, you've got your leather gloves, plug in your power, hook up your sewer hose, plug in your water, and that's how I roll. So I didn't have anybody, you know, nobody, like, nobody did that but me. And when I started talking to production, they said, hey, man, you're going to be on the road. You need hair and makeup. And I'm like, we want as few people working on this as possible because we want a streamlined effort. I said, I don't need to be in a makeup chair.

I said, I ain't got no hair. I said, as far as makeup, I know how to put on a little bit of a baselair, but that's as far as it goes. And then half the time, I wouldn't even do that. So, you know, you've got to be self-sufficient. But I'm a hands-on guy. If you ask anybody on my crew, they'll say that Steve is low maintenance, and I do my own thing.

I love that. Yeah, you're a man of the people driving the RV, emptying everybody's shit out, doing what you got to do. Oh, my shit. Oh, only yours Only my shit I'm not going to go to the RV park And hook up everybody's gray and black one of the lines

Only my Did you ever hear that story You probably have of the Dave Matthews tour band No All right So the Dave Matthews band They were going on tour through Chicago And they had this tour bus

Right Everybody on the band was staying there overnight And at one point They unloaded to do sound check or whatever The driver of the tour bus drove out. You ever been to Chicago? You've seen that river that they have that goes right through downtown? So the driver drives over that bridge and the bridge has like these metal grates in the bottom so you can see down to the water. He decides that's the place where he wants to empty out

the sewage tank in the tour bus. Now it's against the law to do that. You can't just dump shit into a water. So he takes the hose out. He empties 800 pounds of liquid sewage at the the exact same time that one of those tour boats that takes architecture tours was going right under the bridge and it covered an entire bus or entire boat full of people with human shit out of the tour bus it's it's one of the most disgusting stories of all time god dang if they thought their shit didn't stink the people in the boat could have said otherwise yeah yeah that's a pretty bad situation to find yourself and so check out stone dude that's about the Nasty a story. I've heard it quite sometimes. Yeah. Can you imagine they took them back and then,

all right, so they take them back and unload them on the dock. And meanwhile, there's a tour group that's waiting to get on this boat that's like, wait, what kind of boat ride did I sign up for here? So they had to hose everybody down, clean the boat out, and the boat went back out in a couple hours. I probably would have just called it quits for the day and say, okay, it's not for me if that's what happened to the previous time. Well, you know, the review would have been, hey, what did you think about the tour? Oh, it was the shits. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I'm looking forward to hearing more about their show and watching it,

because it sounds interesting. You've got people that are going to be challenging you to various things. It's like fans that see you. And I have to imagine that most of the – a lot of challenges that you get are like, hey, I dare you to chug a beer with me, that sort of thing. Beer shugging. The beer shugging never came into it, you know. And I probably would have been, you know,

at a high percentage of win on that. But it wasn't always about a challenge. It was a lot of invites as well of just things that I actually wanted to do and never got a chance to do. There was a lot of things that, you know, man, when I was in a wrestling business, I was so focused on just being number one. I let a lot of things just go by.

And everything was white noise. I was just focused on what I needed to do to be me, be healthy. I worked. When I was hurt, I worked injured because if you're not accountable, you'll go down to the bottom of the list. I don't care who you are because I've got to be able to rely on you. You never take yourself off the road. You never take yourself off a storyline.

If I had a hobby, it disappeared because I was focused on a wrestling business. I trained a lot in gym. Hey, I partied a lot too. I'm not recommending that to anybody, but that's a hard life to live. But the biggest thing you've got to do it is be accountable. But it wasn't always about getting challenged to do this stuff. It was getting invited to do stuff. And also, when you think of a show of this magnitude of this type,

it started off as just an idea. And I think when we went to camera, there were many different visions or versions of this idea in everybody's mind. And, you know, for every idea that I had, Network's got some ideas they want to have. So, you know, there's got to be a give and take. a combination. So some of the things I absolutely love, some of the things where I'm a fish out of water, you know, if I'm not stone cold or I don't have that protective armor, man,

I'm just, I'm really a low-key, humble or shy person. That's just my nature. So there was a lot of things that were painful, but there was a lot of things that were cool too. The name of the show of Stone Cold takes out of America, and that has the marquee value to it. But I live my life as Steve Oswald. So what do you see when you see this is Steve Austin, either kicking ass or struggling through some challenge or some activity? I like it. Yeah, we were, Aaron and I were golfing the other day down in Houston, and somebody came up to him and said, am I playing golf with Bobby Fino or am I playing golf with Aaron Foster right now? That was kind of his version of Stone Cold and Aryan. Are you a, are you a Texans fan?

When Aryan was playing, I was. Dude, I followed your, and here's the thing, because I never knew what happened to you after your football career ended. But I watched your entire NFL career. You're one of my favorite running backs. I never knew until I saw your name on the paper because I'm just, I'm in my own world over here

in the middle of nowhere. So I said, is that Aryan foster from Houston, Texas? Aaron, I followed your whole football career and I'm not blown smoke. Much, I appreciated watching you play the game. I love watching the way you played the game and, you know, just your talents and the way, the way you played a game of football. You wouldn't a big celebration guy did your thing and you were a team guy.

And that's, and a toughest, tough as hell running back with hands. So I enjoyed your whole career, dude. Man, I appreciate that, man. Getting flowers from a legend is, you know, There's not much you can say about that. Likewise, brother, I mean, you're a legend, so as long as we're exchanging roses, man. I appreciate everything you did. I do have a question for you, man.

I knew of you growing up, like every, how could you not? You know what I'm saying? Everybody grew up knowing I didn't watch wrestling like that because we didn't have cable. And so we used to, you know, go to the neighborhood house, whoever had cable. And so I always, I never, you're actually the first professional restaurant I've ever talked to. I took that back. I talked to Iraq one time. but it was never about wrestling.

How do they, and I don't know how interested in this question, or how much you get it, how do they, you know, decide matches? You know what I mean? I never knew that. I never inquired about it. How do they go about that? Do y'all have any input or what is the, what is the?

The influence that you would have is your talent and abilities in the ring or some kind of X factor of charisma that they would see in you and think, hey man this person ain't there yet but we can this this is a person that we can make money with so the best way i can say is it's like a chess game and they're booking the territories we would call it back in the day so like a classic old pre-wewe wwf story right would be a mentioned man at his house with paterson and maybe one other guy and they've got a ledger of paper and they're booking a territory and they're booking a year out you know they're trying to as long as someone doesn't go down with an injury that's how far out they would like to book a year to two out and so it's all

about who can make us money who's ready right now who who do we need in the middle to help make guys on the way up and it's just it's just it's it's like you're building you're building a football team, right? It's like if you go to the draft, okay, what do we need? We need to run back, we need to tie it in, we need a linebacker. What do we need? We need a high flyer. We need someone who could just go out there and cap crumbos.

What do we need? You look at what your needs are and you build. And when everybody talks about wins and losses, okay, we know professional wrestling is. It's professional wrestling. But you book your talent according towards how can you wrote people in on the storylines? How can you make things personal. When I was first in the business, I started off in Dallas, Texas, and I was driving

a forklift, and I got in a wrestling school. It was a once-a-week thing, very unorganized. Five months later, I had my first match. Two months later, I found myself in Nashville, Tennessee. A few weeks later, I found myself starving in Nashville, Tennessee, riding up down the road with these veterans trying to learn the business. And Mr. You probably know, you probably come from some million times.

when you're starving literally and your job is to draw people into that building you learn how to pull emotions or affect people's emotions because if you don't you know you're not going to do very well for yourself so you're forced to learn

and learn how to do things to elicit a response and emotional response from those people and learning the business you either get good when you first get in you learn mechanics and that's 101.

And then 201 is psychology. And then 301 is working either good guy or bad guy. So it's all encompassing of trying to put together a team or a roster that can win a Super Bowl or you can take out on the road and draw crowds, draw money, and fill up arenas. When I first started in WWW, and I'll stop after this. Millen's about a quarter full. By the time I left, they were sold down. out any day of the week, every night of the week that we went out.

And it's all about booking. That's the thing that I was interested. I think everybody, myself, I liken it like to, I don't know how much you listen to rap, right? Or just music in general, right? I would argue that you had one of the most successful brandings of all the time, like how you branded yourself, right? Because that's like a lot of music I feel like is like that. You fall in love with the art and the artist, but you also fall in love with the branding behind that art and that artist. And they kind of become a character or even a caricature of themselves.

So how did you craft Stone Cold? Like, how did that come about? You know, like I guess like the elevator picture. How did you craft? Like one of the most successful branding, you know, jobs of all time? It was a work in progress. And it certainly wasn't overnight. when I started in Dallas,

I started as Steve Williams. They changed my name to Steve Austin, Tennessee, and then they changed it to stunning Steve. I'm over Japan one night, and I jump off the top rope and I tear my tricep off my arm. So I wrestled two and a half weeks of the core tricep, go back, get it reattached, get back in the ring after a few months of healing, and then I get fired.

And so I go to a place and first. Philadelphia called ECW and at that time I'd have seven years in the business but I was known as what's called a mechanic area and a mechanic as a guy I was respected by my peers because I could work I could have a good match with anybody but I wasn't a defined persona or gimmick or character stunning stunning stunning how my hair was starting to leave I was like a ragamuffin I wasn't the total package. When I went to WWE, they wanted to call me the ring master,

the master of the ring. And they had this guy talked for me because they didn't think I could cut a promo. And then six months of that, it was going nowhere. And then so I was at the house, and I was sitting there watching TV. It was late at night. And a special on a serial killer named Richard Kikwinski

came on. The Iceman. He used to be a hit man for the mob. That's a great talk. And that guy was a cold-blooded dude. and I said, man, this is something I can identify with. Now, and when I say this, I'm not giving credit or admiring anything that the guy did. He gave me an idea in a world of good guys and bad guys or whatever. I said, hey, man, that guy, he doesn't give a damn, he's remorseless, and he's a killer. Well, that explains.

I was a running back area. I wasn't in your league. But I was a running back in high school, but I was a running back in high school, run up in a linebacker and had a killer instinct. If I was going to hit you, I was going to hit you as hard as I could. If I had the football, I wasn't fast enough to run east or west, so I ran north and south. So I finally took, you know, that mindset and with what Richard Kupliski,

the ice man had done, and I pitched this idea to the office, and it came up with a bunch of temperature-based names. I'm like, man, it ain't about a temperature, it's about an attitude. true. Anyway, my wife came up with a stone cold name over a glass of tea, and she goes out your name, Stone Cold Steve Austin. And so I pitched this idea to the office. And at the time, I still had a buzz haircut from watching Pulp Fiction when Bruce Willis had that buzz haircut. And then I didn't have the look yet. And I still had, you know, my gear wasn't right. And I said, we were working in Pittsburgh one night. And I said, dude, I looked at myself in the mayor. I said, well, nobody can

identify with this. What are you doing? You look like crap. So I shaved my head. I didn't have the go tea yet. So I started growing into go tea. And then when they started putting the microphone in front of my face, because they got rid of my manager, Ted DiBiase, all due respect to great talent, then let me start talking. And I was so pissed off at the time for all the bureaucratic BS and red tapes and people not thinking I could ever be a star. I just started cutting promos and talking all the trash that I grew up in South Texas here

and all of a sudden people took notice in Stonecoast Steve Austin as an entity started gaining momentum now I was a bad guy and I was beating the trash out of people

and just talking trash while I was doing it and there came a point where I became so cool because I was talking so much shit the people started liking me so they put me in a match against Brett the Hit Man Hart

one of my favorites of all time where, Aaron, I went into that match as a bad guy. Brett went in as a good guy. By the time the match is over, I was the good guy, and Brett was the bad guy. And then it just took off because I didn't really change what I was doing. I just kept talking

shit and you know, started flipping people off. And no one had been no one had been really using the middle finger on television because it wasn't the friendly thing to do. And at the time, my good friend, Diamond Dallas Page, was holding up a diamond kind

sign and everybody throw up that diamond cutter sign. I remember being a television. I was fixing to go out live on TV on Monday Night Raw and Vincent Man comes up to me and goes Steve. I see that you always, you know, using the middle finger, it's not that great. He goes, is there something that you can do

that everybody can do with you? And I looked in dead in the eye and I didn't hesitate and I just said, no. And I kept flipping people off and we rode those middle fingers to sellouts all across the nation and wherever we went so but it was a grassroots effort area to take me you know I'm a good mechanic decent athlete

not the most graceful athlete uh and I was more of a wrestler trying to trying to model my career after the Rick Flair the greatest of all time in my opinion as more of a wrestler when I got pile drive in 1997 I was a transit quadruplegic for about a minute when I came back from that injury I knew I had to change my style ultimately had a three four fusion had to turn into a brawler when i turned into a brawler along with the attitude and along with the seven to half eight years of learning that i had everything to came together and with the power of the w wf strapping a rocket on my back that's when i caught traction and just shot to the next stratosphere what a story that's great um i wish we had more time with you i think we have a

hard out here at 2 o'clock but i know big t's got some uh you got some like rapid fire questions you want to ask yeah yeah these can go quick mr stone cold pleasure to talk to you uh i don't know if you know this you seem kind of like a pretty badass dude for the most part uh so what's something that just scares the hell out of you that people wouldn't expect uh i'm not i'm not a big I'm not a big fan of heights. I can appreciate it. My heights is perspective. Like if I'm on the edge looking down and I got a chance to follow, that scares me.

If I'm on top and just looking from way back, I'm cool. But if I'm on the edge looking down, I ain't a big fan of heights. I agree with you. Also, just one more thing. You've had a podcast. Now, Ariens played football. You've wrestled. The rest of us here have done neither of those things,

but we can appreciate the difficulty of podcasting. So I wanted to give you the opportunity to say if hosting a podcast, it's maybe more difficult than being a professional wrestler or something like that. You know, what I found out in life is what you do the most of, get the most reps at and you become good at. I remember back when I had podcasts, and I stopped podcasting about three years ago. But when I started, I got a call from podcast one of down there in L.A.

And they knew who I was. And they said, hey, man. You could come down here and have a meeting with us and do a podcast because they knew that I could talk. And I said, I'll go down there. We come to an agreement and I go to this studio where, you know, this guy who can really cut a promo is going to start a podcast. And boy, there we started. And about seven minutes later, I ran out of gas. I didn't have nothing else to talk about.

I hadn't done enough work. I hadn't prepped enough. Didn't have anything to talk about. And so I found that right then The podcasting was going to be much like my wrestling career First time I get to Memphis, Tennessee They say, hey kid, you're the first match You go out there and give us eight minutes

And I'm thinking, I'm fresh out of wrestling school What do I do for eight minutes? Hey man, podcasting is what you make it And the more prepared you are, the easier it's going to be And as you guys know as long as you've been doing it You're better now than you were when you started So I would say the difficulty level is equally the same Because whatever you start at, you're green at

But whatever you do the most If you're showing up every day putting in the work That's what you become good at Yeah, is a fair point And also like when you're coming from wrestling background You don't have, you know, you're used to having The feedback of a live crowd telling you what's working What's not working

With the podcast, it's like you sit down, you record it You ship it off and then it comes out a couple days later And you don't have that instantaneous feedback which I'm sure is different than what you're used to. I think Stone Cold just told me I can be a professional wrestler. I think he said that. If you get enough reps in, Big T, if you get enough reps and you can do. Billy, rapid fire questions.

Which cast in movie did you have more fun making? The expendables or the longest yard? Two of my favorite movies. Well, I mean, I had a small part, neither one of them. I'm not a big fan of fighting for camera because I find it difficult. Like wrestling is like a dance. because you just know you don't plan it, you just don't do it. But the expendables versus what?

The longest yard. Hey, man, Adam Sandin was still cool. Got a chance to meet Bert Reynolds and Don DeLois. The part about the longest yard was, you know, at the time, I think it was about 275, and when they offered me the part, I didn't know that I was going to be a running back. And I had run in a minute, right? And I'd been in a gym like crazy. And then all of a sudden, you know, I find out that I ain't got a stunt double.

And I start running through those tires. You know, Harry, when you hold a football like that, you run through the tires. Oh, yeah. And I didn't prepare for that either. I'd just been a gym rat, no cardio. So we filmed the expenditures in Brazil and in New Orleans. But I would go, I guess I'd go, it's almost a tie because Sylvester Stallone was great to work. with Adam Sanders

that be single nicest guy I met in L.A. So, hi. All right, Bill. You got another one? That's what I expected. One last question? Did anyone ever challenge you to like a

9-99, 9 hot dogs, nine innings, nine beers challenge yet? I never heard of it. Yeah, it's a pretty big challenge. If you ever make it to a Yankee Stadium want to do it, you know, it's a great American challenge.

Are you officially challenging? I might be challenging. I've heard of that either. Nine hot dogs, nine. I want to do that, yeah. You go to a baseball game. game, and you try to eat nine hot dogs and drink nine beers in nine innings. See, here's where I'm at.

And I think in anyone's life, there's certain windows of time where there's an opportunity where you would like to do these things. Maybe for you to have caught me in my 30s, I said, hey, bring it. Because in my 30s or whatever, I did, I was bulletproof. I could do anything. I was almost bionic, seen. But where I'm at right now,

I'd say, you do it. I'll walk and I'll drink my business. That would honestly be, that would be a challenge in and of itself to watch, to just hang out with Billy while he's drunk

over the course of a baseball. Absolutely. Most people would not survive that challenge. Many have. And enjoyed it. It doesn't sound like a fun challenge. All right. Well, we appreciate

you joining us. We'll have to have you back on again sometime because I really enjoyed talking to you and hearing you and Aryan, you know, just meet his peers in a way. So you can check out Stone Cold Steve Austin, Stone Cold Takes on America. Premiers Sunday, April 30th at 10 p.m. on A&E. Sounds like you had a great time. Sounds like you met a lot of great people and sounds like you had a lot of great stories afterwards. So looking forward to it. Hey man, appreciate you guys. And I know, I know you guys talk about some interesting topics so hitting it back when you got something that i can delve into because like right now guys just like people to watch a show but it sounds like you guys talk about some interesting things what are you what are you into like what are your uh your personal

do you do a lot of reading no i'm not a big reader i'm reading uh i'm reading old gary heart book right now uh i just kind of watch a few things uh at night i don't watch a lot of television because uh well my show's not on television yet I got it. Give us one, give us one like conspiracy theory that you're like, hey, I don't know, but I'm just saying it might be. The moon. The moon landing. We can do a moon landing episode. If you want to come back.

I got it. All right. We'll do. How's that? It's good. Moon landing episode with Steve Austin coming soon. We'll definitely be back in touch. We'll plan this out, right? All right. You have a good one, man. Take care. Take care. Thank you guys. Good one. See it.

All right. That was Stone Cold, the legend. I'm excited to see if he'll come back to do the moon. That would be dope if he came back. He seemed like he had some strong opinions. Yeah, right. He didn't want to let it. He didn't want to let it out.

The moon. I'm just saying, but I'm just saying. You know what I'm saying? But, yeah, good dude, man. Fun to talk to. But yeah, so that wraps up today's episode. I hope y'all enjoyed it. It was fun.

I learned a whole hell of a lot. I didn't know. I don't know really shit about wrestling. Really dope, really dope topic, though. Part of America. That I feel like it's a pretty big part of America, actually, man. That North Korea shit was really enlightening as well. But if anybody doesn't have anything else, man, that would wrap up the episode.

Y'all got anything? Billy, you're still cracking up about that shit, bro. That shit is hilarious. I'm just trying to find a similar move. It's kind of, imagine the choke slam backbreaker, but instead of their back landing on their knee, It's just their taint. Good stuff. Okay.

I think Billy just wanted to say Taint. Yeah. Billy's high. Big Taint Buster. It's like a child that just figured out you can curse. Oh my God. It's so hilarious of my head, but it's not true. I'm going to find the clip of the kid being like, I just want to crack out.

Yeah. That is really, looking forward to cracking up. That is literally, really right now. watch uh watch draft day this weekend starring erian foster please i get you know i will screenshot one of the residuals i got for that the other day um they come in every so often it's like four dollars or some shit like that but i do get residuals so y'all run up the numbers man you know what i mean i mean that shit up also the next time we record our friend hendon might be an NFL player he will be yeah he'll definitely get drafted tonight yeah

Oh, it's the Oh, this Jeff is the night? Well, tomorrow. Thursday Friday. Oh, shit. Yeah. Oh, damn. Okay.

Yeah, I didn't even know. So good luck to Hendon. Good luck to Hendon. Hope he goes high. Go ahead. Oh, last thing I want to mention about wrestling. There's one of the first wrestlers ever. George Hackenshmit invented the bench press and hack squat.

And he's like, this was back when everyone was natural. And Billy praise to him every morning. No, he is like, look up George Hackens Schmidt. He had a. really interesting life. And I think he may have been the guy that punched Houdini and killed him. Wait, let me look that up.

I mean, easily verified. Why wouldn't you verify that before you say the fact? I know. You should ask questions later. Oh, never mind. Ask for forgiveness.

Jay Gordon and Whitehead. George Hackenschmidt was Houdini's friend. I don't understand how your brain works, bro. I really try. I really, how do you fact check yourself? No,

because I just remember who Dini was killed by one of his friends who punched him in the stomach and if there's any of his friends how did you connect those two without seeing it first no because they were friends i read that they were friends and you connected it and i connected i was like this is the only guy who could kill a man with a punch that could be friends with houdini so i don't know who else could have killed holy shit billy you are a special breed man that is for sure love you man all right y'all that does it for today's episode like comment subscribe youtube hit the best Much love y'all.