Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Labor

Episode Date: June 2, 2022

On today's episode of Macrodosing the crew is back after Memorial Day to talk about the labor uprising in the United States. Everything from the current state of the workforce to an update on everyones lives after a long weekend. Sit back, relax, and enjoy! Back to regularly scheduled programming next week.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcast, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. This tweet rocks. Somebody said, just tweeted Clay and said, remember when you got kicked out of your kids' little league game for arguing with an ump? And he said, yeah, it was Sunday, and it was an absolutely atrocious call. I should have spent more time arguing, honestly. Um should be fired for sucking at his job. I've also been kicked out of a co-ed intermural flag football game and him presently banned from appearing.

on both ESPN and CNN. Is he really? He got banned from CNN for saying that he liked boobs. I don't think it was even like, it wasn't because he was vulgar. He was just like, it was weird when he said it. No, but Brooke Baldwin. I believe in the First Amendment and boobs.

And everyone's like, oh, very cool, Clay. You're so fucking strange. But Brooke Baldwin did act like that was the most shocking thing she'd ever heard. She did, yeah. But like nobody out there was offended by that. Correct. I thought it was a pretty good line Clay Traff

I mean it's one of those lines that Clay says that could just as easily be lifted It was probably lifted from a bumper sticker that he saw I'm just saying He thought it was the edgiest thing That's ever happened on television The thing Apparently it was if he got banned

I think one of the biggest crimes Of this demographic and culture change We've been seeing the past two decades Is how much less love boobs get Just saying It's all it's been all about Elaborate please It's been all about ass for the past 20 years.

Rightly so, I dare to say. Damn, bro. I'll say what I think. I think boobs are straighter than asses. How about the hundreds of years ass was ignored? I know, but I think. I think there can be room for both. I think two things can be true at the same time, Billy.

I think boobs are great and butts are great. I think boob guys are straighter than ass guys. Go on? Happy. I think you're projecting. Yeah. actually it's it's the first look how straight I am

it's the first day of pride month yeah boob guy why because because guys have asses too yeah girls guys have boobs too you just called big cat out last show yeah but yeah damn you did you said it not me

now bill is like wow I can't believe you went there we're not using any of this for the show yes no we started the show on the boobs versus ass discussion it's an important conversation that we need to have right now We start the show now. Low key, did boobs fall off?

Boobes are getting L plus ratioed right now. It's sad to see. You know, I'm more of a brain guy myself. So noble, low jobs. Billy. Billy, come on, Billy. I'm a soul, man. I like brains.

I like souls. Okay, can we? I like backbones, too. I like a good spine. Yeah, you like a good spine, Coley? I mean, they got to be able to arch it. You're getting way too sarcasmistic. I like healthy lungs.

I actually, this is an ick. If girls can't run athletically, that is a huge ick for me. Literally is such a turnoff. Now, is it a turn off or is it more of a turn on when you see a girl that's really fast? Because you're like, man, we would have such above average speed children. Fast twitch muscles are low-key. attractive. Well, I mean, one of my ex was a girl riding a bike really aggressively.

I stand by that, even though the Miley Cyrus picture came out the next day. But that was, I remember I called you out on that. That was like an old, that's like an 1800s, like, misogynist. Yeah. I hate girls on bikes. I did look it up and it is kind of like a way throwback. Yeah, it's like a misogyny thing. Oh, man.

Bringing it back. Everybody named one, one feature of the opposite sex that's weird. that you would say that you are like for example i like i like a good digestive system in a woman like a girl that's not puking all the time okay actually i have a complaint that like you know not using all the toilet paper but but healthy bms i have i have i have a complaint about women all these women have the exact this is the exact opposite of what i was going for but like why like all these like there's not a single girl i know that doesn't have like terrible stomach issues all these women that's a great point maybe it's because they're hanging out with you all the time i'm gonna go i'm gonna go

search i'm gonna go search the word tummy hurts in my texts yes brother just take a look at this take a look at my god yeah bro dude what is up with these chick's stomachs we got into the bottom of it oh it's we're at the bottom of it it's all these uh charcutor reports it's no i think i don't know i don't know if the i don't know if the kombucha is no i think coli's right cause or a fact it's the Lummi, the buffalo cheese, and then, yeah, I think the, the, the apparel spritzes, too. Oh, yeah. We need to get to. Females and their apparel, but I don't, I don't mean this, like, wreaking havoc on the nation's plumbing sisters.

I'm not like saying this, like, this is a national, like, something's gone wrong. And we need to figure out why every single woman has, like, serious stomach issues. Women be pregnant. That's not it. Mad Dogg, can you confirm or deny? I can confirm. Yeah? Yeah.

All the hoes pukin? No, it's not. It's not pukin. It's just complaining. Yeah, it's like, ho's shitting. It's both. Girls be shitting or not shitting. Now, is it that women, they're pooping more often now?

No. No, I think it's that it's less often. Yeah, it's, I think they're not doing it enough. They're not pooping enough. I don't know what's going on. Yeah. Now, do you think that's the case, or is it that women are more liberated to openly discuss how infrequently they're shitting? No, it's because they're hurting. It's actually pain.

Billy, stop women's explaining. I would say that women feel more liberated to talk about their BMs, but also the lack of BMs and women is alarming. Women aren't pooping enough. No. What can we do to fix that? A lot of men, Murillax, bed of fiber. No, I'm talking about, like, I want to fix this on a, I want to treat the entire problem, the issue, not like on a case-by-case basis. Girls be drinking cold brew, put some laxatives in the cold brew.

I feel like cold brew would make you shit more, right? You need some activity. Oh, I got it. I've had some, I've had my issues. I have my, I have my, my tricks. Girls need to start smoking again. Cigarettes? Yeah, you smoke a cigarette.

Do cigarettes make a poop? Yeah. Do you think there's an epigenetic problem? where all these women were smoking cigarettes and then they passed on the gene that like we don't need like epigenetics i can't pronounce it epigenetics epigenetics you're looking at me like i'm supposed to verify the pronunciation of this term i've never heard before basically the concept is is that like you can affect your DNA by like oh by like habits you form by habits you form yeah that's actually i'm gonna that's a that's a truth i read that in a real book actually yeah

actually it was a book about for for like women in their habits so this is it was called moody bitches this is an issue it's a huge issue a lot of women's tummy's hurt ick saying the word tummy tummy well big t brought it up big t's quoting dummy yeah big t's but yeah that's not that's not my phrasing all that's tummy i don't know why belly belly not good stomach stomach hurts my girls if your tummies are hurting smoke a cigarette that's the cure no i don't know get addicted to camels unless you're pregnant unless you're pregnant in which case oh my god or just get super still out on that one or just get super hung over i think i think honestly i've actually been reading up about this alcohol has been destroying so remember that one time i said

that your digestive system is basically on the outside of your body if you think about it and then... I don't remember that, but I... It sounds exactly like something you'd say. You're more like a donut and your digestive system is the hole in the middle. That makes no sense.

In most of your digestive system, like you have more exposure to the outside world through your digestive system than your skin. Okay, I... You're putting it in your body, but it's all stuff that used to be outside. I can't consider I I'll find out the exact thing but like I think we really need to start studying gut bacteria and like alcohol like destroys gut bacteria like think about it when you have to disinfect a cut you just put alcohol on it yeah like to get all the bacteria out like I think all the booze were drinking and like gut bacteria is getting destroyed is like does your body make it though no gut bacteria is like what you absorb from foods and what you get from your mother and like all sorts of stuff

and I think that's a huge factor in like mental health like you know hormone levels and stuff and when you start looking at that more because so much like 90% of your serotonin let me look up the exact figure but it's like the bulk of your serotonin

is produced in your gut I'm pretty sure your body create does it serotonin? gut flora yeah is produced in the gut gut flora yeah but a lot of it is from 95% in the serotonin like if you ate if you ate a bunch of

like sauerkraut stuff like that that boost your gut flora but it is naturally occurring. It's naturally occurring from like your mother, though. We're all naturally occurring from my mother. Like your body grew from your mom. There's just ways you can help your gut flora with different bacteria, and I think alcohol definitely hurts it.

That's why people drink kombucha. Yeah. Yeah. I tried kombucha. Oh, I love kombucha. Love kombucha. And a new grocery store that opened up just like right down the street for me, which by the way, I mean, this is like sign number one.

that you're completely washed up as an individual, I'm like fucking pumped every day to go to this grocery store. When it opened up, I was like, hell yeah, I can't wait to visit this place. And it's amazing. It's as delivered. And also shout out to people that work there.

Apparently they were building, they're like doing the construction on the inside while listening to part of my take and macro dosing. Oh, sick. Shout out. So shout out to those guys. We kind of built that grocery store. Yeah.

They've got a selection of kombucha like you would not believe. I love a kombat or a probiotic soda. And they all suck. I hate kombucha. I'm here to tell you. Not worth the time. I don't know what the process is of making kombucha, but people that get really... You ferment it.

Yeah, people that get really into producing it act like it's their craft beer. Well, because it kind of is, because it's technically alcoholic. You can get kombucha that you have to get carded for. I have actually had hard kombucha, like 5% alcohol kombucha. Can you get a DUI off kombucha? Oh, hell yeah. No, I don't think if you... It's one of those things where it's like, you could never...

drink enough kombucha to like really get you drunk it has like 0.25 ABV like you don't have to get carded for it you just said it you had one that was five percent well that was a hard kombucha yeah that was like a alcoholic so all these that must make you shit big time it was it's awesome girls have like defeated the cheek coat of hair of the dog because they're all just drinking kombucha the next morning which like he's just enough alcohol that's like like i've heard this Women are always buzzed Yeah, they're just getting That's why they talk so much

Yeah Women be talking Women don't be shitting That's why they talk so much And can't drive well It's a joke The nasty joke The nasties thing about kombucha

Is the fucking mother Have you ever heard of this? No Oh the thing that grows on it Yeah Dude they're all like Oh my God I got the mother It's like what is that

It's like some nasty Like gelatin thing that they've just like, it's like the golden ticket that they find in the bottom of their It's like the fermentation object. Oh. I love kombucha.

I'll get you guys some good kombucha. Or I'll bring in some June shine, some hard kombuch. What did you call it? The brand name is Junshine. Okay, that's a good name. And it has like cool packaging. Is it,

are there kombuchas that are made from mushrooms? I don't think so. Did I just invent something? Psychedelic kombuch. Like psychedelic kombatia? Like psychedelic? Like psychedelic also.

Also alcoholic kombucha called shroomshine. Shroom shine? Did we just stumble upon a million dollar idea? Shroom shine. Just like light psilocybin. Yeah. A little bit alcohol? Yeah, just like a tiny bit.

Would it be more psychedelic or more alcoholic? More psychedelic. Let's throw some CBD in there just to fuck around. Yeah. Thionine too, just to make sure the trip's good. And protein. Relax you. For gains?

For gain. Oh, yeah. Billy would say that, soy boy. Bill, I didn't want to say anything, but your arms are looking small today. You got small arms, soft hands. June 1st, we won't see a shirt with sleeves from Billy until September. Yeah, your biceps look very, you're, it's just like an extension of your soft palms now. No, go all the way up your arms.

Dude, my palms aren't even fucking soft. That was such a bullshit thing. I bet I have more calloused hands. Shut up. Literally, my hands are so callous. June 1st. This is all fake news. Can we talk about something?

I forget where I heard this. Pride month. It is. I heard someone say recently that June is not summer. Correct. And I got, what the, I got so mad and now I'm so mad again that apparently mad. Hold on. What do you think it is?

I think it's summer. No, no, no. I think it's summer. Biologically, summer doesn't start. The summer solstice isn't until June 21st. Yeah, but nobody goes by that. No. Good point, Billy.

Astrologically. Billy got offended by your incorrect usage of biologically. Okay, sorry, astrologically. It's technically the summer solstice is June 21st, so it's not summer. I considered it's summer Memorial Day. Yeah, but nobody goes by that. I heard someone say summer was July, August, and September. That's just wrong.

And I flipped out. Yeah, that's insane. September is for sure more summer than June. Not even in the base. September? June is 10 times more summer than September. It's a vibe thing. September?

They're playing football. September is way hotter than June. This isn't even... No, but September, you're going back to school in September. Wait, guys. That's what it's really about. Most kids are still in school through June 20. Yeah, they're technically in school, but it's, it's, they're halfway out the door.

Guys, there's two different types of, there's two different types of seasons and I have the answers. There are astrological seasons, astronomical seasons, and meteorological seasons. So you're talking big tea You're talking about meteorological seasons Which define that for me I'm just talking about seasons brother In my mind there's one kind of seasons It's so these are

So the seasons being begin on the first day of the months That include the equinoxes and solstices Whereas astronomical seasons Have them beginning on the equinoxes So you're both right Everyone's right No No we're not

Coley just said September is summer. September is astronomically summer. Brother, so you're telling me when we're in week four and Tennessee's playing Florida, that's summer? Like you're going, I understand more if you want to make the case that the seasons align with the sports calendar. I don't, that's not an exclusive thing for me, but I do think it matters. Astronomically it does.

I was thinking and when when I was a kid I would be more inclined to agree with you that June well oh we lost Coley big big seasons doesn't want to hear what's going on yeah you're trying to silence her man sorry Cole you dropped out for a second uh yeah I feel like that was your guy's fault like the internet yeah probably probably Pete so I'm I don't go by any of these definitions. My definitions are just loosely based around clothes. So the first time you put flannel on,

the first time any of your immediate friend group wears flannel. At that point, it's autumn. And autumn comes before fall. See, maybe, but Virginia is a very similar climate to like Tennessee.

You can't put on flannel in Tennessee till mid-October no you get a couple days you get a couple days a couple nights i'm including night time by the way still i mean if it's night time then i've never experienced summer in maine true yeah i agree main doesn't have a summer it's winter constantly yep Maine does not have a summer i want to go back to this though when did you all get out of school and go back to school so i used to get out of school i want to say the first or second week of June. And then I would go back the week after Memorial Day, or excuse me, Labor Day. Labor Day. Because Virginia had, they actually had a law that was written to place called the King's

Dominion Act. And King's Dominion is the name of a great theme park that's down in like central Virginia. And so they, they lobbied to make sure that schools would not be back in session until after Labor Day so that families would travel to their theme park over the course of Labor Day weekend. And so it was like against the law for schools to start prior to Labor Day. So it was always like second week of June, the Tuesday after Labor Day. Boom. So Boston, we have snow days, obviously, which I assume you did not have growing up, Big T. So I went to Catholic school.

So we always got out like two weeks earlier than public school. But public school in Boston, especially if it was a snowy winter, kids were going to school through like late June. Oh, one year, one year we had so much snow that they made us go to school. Like, we would have been going through July if they just added days. So they just added three minutes per day, which was supposed to make up for that much lost time. Teachers aren't, like, that was like 30 seconds per class. That didn't do anything. Yeah, in New York now, they're not getting out of school until the very last week of June.

That's outrageous. It is outrageous. And you know why, though? Because they get so many more days off during the year than we used to get back when we were in school. So I don't know if it's a regional thing or if it's something that's just like evolved for the times. But they get holidays off for like Ramadan. It's not like when I was growing up. It was just basically the Christian holidays.

You would have some days off school. But you get days off for Ramadan. You get a midwinter recess as well, which is like another spring break. You get that here. You also have. There's just more holidays. break? No, no. I'm not talking about Christmas break. I'm saying like they get a Christmas break, which is like the standard week and a half, two weeks, whatever it is. Then they also get a spring break

and they also in between those two, they get a midwinter recess. Oh, in like February? Yeah, in like February. So, you all are going to hate this. I guess I'm the only person here that's from like the South. But we, so we got out in May and then went back August 1st. So to me, what? That's what my cousins in Florida did. That's disgusting. So to me, August is even the fall because that's when I was always back in school. That's disgusting. August is our hottest month. I know, but it's not about heat to me. It's about it's about the way things are going. So I was always in school. So August is the fall. August is for sure not fall. Can you imagine being back in school in the summertime and there's not even football on? Like that's what that's what makes September bearable going back to school and

at least on the weekends you got football. We start high school football earlier. yeah and that's why you like that's why you get stories every year of kids dropping dead in the that's probably that's probably you've probably found something there yeah Aaron when would you used to go back to uh to school when you were kid oh man let's see I think I think growing up in Albuquerque we was like right before my birthday so my birthday was August 24th so like a week before my birthday and what you would do like training camp and all that shit like in August

wait a little league no like for he was in San Diego by the time he was in high school oh yeah um shit I would say around the same time yeah it was around the same time like mid to late August and we would do we would do training camp in August yeah like two days

and shit and in the summer days were mid August up here for sure yeah something like that I just been a minute bro I always remember going back like the week before Labor Day, which was nice, because it eased you back in with that Labor Day break. Did you guys used to also have half days on Mondays? Yeah.

I had that in elementary school. First Monday? No, it was just, I think it was every Monday. No, not every Monday. What? It wasn't. I don't know what that is. No, but like we'd have like a half day for the first day, just like to slowly get us back

into school. I think we always started on like a Wednesday. So we went like three days. No, but I'm talking about. Like over the course of the year, I feel like some Mondays were half days for me. That's crazy. We had like special days that would be like early dismissal and that would be a half day. Yeah, but I feel like it was it was like a constant thing.

Yeah. Did you have like six people in your class? No. No. I went to like I went to a standard elementary school, standard public school that had. I was a jabber place. How many doors did you have? Doors, uh, multiple doors.

Not as many as. Yeah. Well, yeah, exactly, especially if there were like multiple leading to the outside or your walls. We got to get to a point where every school has only one door and then and then you have to line up single file and it takes everyone two hours to leave. That fire trail would be hell. There were New York public schools that were like our schools span multiple blocks. Like what's one door going to do for us? Like we have 10 buildings for our school.

How is us going to work here? Yeah. there's there's reports coming out now by the way that the uh the chief of police in yvolde is like no longer cooperating with the investigation going into it got a promotion he did he's uh he's on the city council now right on par baby i i feel like it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better oh they're they're going to uncover some shit that you are going to be very upset about i don't get it they tell us to cooperate why can't they cooperate well what happened was The director of public safety went on the mic last Friday and was like this was the wrong decision like point blank period.

In hindsight, he should not have made that choice to stay in the hallway. And then over the course of the weekend, the Evalde Police Department is like, well, you just threw us under the bus. So you're not coming to my birthday party anymore. We're not going to talk to you. So just like just saying something that's objectively true. is now grounds for being like okay you're against us now you're my enemy but that's where we are i have a feeling that like the feds are going to investigate and find some pretty fucked up stuff so that'll be that'll be a fun discourse to have and like they thought all the kids were dead in the

room i don't know i don't want to speculate what they're going to get into but i feel like it's not good he's ready to fire them tic-tok conspiracies off the hip the kids would i've been seeing I'm sorry, but I've been seeing, no, no, no, I've been seeing the craziest shit. Because, like, I spend, like, my job is to spend time on TikTok, and I just end up seeing some of the craziest, like, like, we sold them, PFT. Is that what you've directed them to do? Yeah, no, I told Billy, I need you to fry your brain by watching stupid ass TikTok. I have to pick up trends for the part of my take TikTok, and I just end up spending so much time on TikTok trying to find trends that sometimes all these things pop up. And like, like, I don't want to repeat some of them because I know they're objectively false.

and spread a false narrative, but, like, they're wild. Well, yeah, let's predict where we think that this is going to go because Alex Jones isn't going to play the hits back because he just got, you know, sued and lost millions and millions of dollars. So he's not going to, he's not going to go back to the old crisis actors well. I think we've moved on. Crisis actors had a big, like, eight years in this country where everything was fucking crisis actors.

But they're about to move on to something else. So I wonder what Alex is going to say. My prediction is because Alex is getting, we even covered this on the Alex. Jones episode of macrodosing but his conspiracy theories have gotten like more and more mainstream so he's like watering himself down these days he used to be like he used to be like real fucking crazy like just insane like extraterrestrial type shit almost i bet you some of his some of his fan bases like establishment got to you huh yeah oh yeah oh for sure there's definitely been somebody that stood up and like took Alex's place as being like uh the the pits of volcanoes or

inhabited by half reptilian, half Jewish space time travelers. And they came back and they sent Hillary Clinton to kill everyone. Like that's the stuff that his real hardcore old school followers, remember. That would be actually be a fun episode to dive into Hillary Clinton on a very deep level. Oh, yeah. Well, there's, there's enough true stuff about her that's, that's pretty fucked up. I mean, that's what some of them were about, like, like on the TikTok. I'm not going to repeat them.

Just doing it. I'm gonna, I'm gonna repeat one. There was a buffalo one that fucking hand me rolling, man. Okay, so the buff, there was a buffalo, which is sad, you know what I'm saying? People die, but so, uh, so there was a dude I saw this one who died, the security dude. I don't even said anything. How do you know you saw it? I know exactly this one you're about to say.

I did. I would just get water. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's a dude who was a, and you know, it's funny as my man's believes this shit. Like my man's believes this shit. And so there was a guy who was a security, I think it was a retired cop, the security guard. do. He was working on an invention that was a water powered vehicle and the government took him out because he was working on. Now, to the credit, right? So this is all conspiracy theories

have like a pinch of truth to it. So he actually was working on a vehicle that was water powered, but it was also hydrogen powered. And he has a video of him like working out the kinks and going over and stuff like that um but like you know three minutes of research into you realize like there's so many different ways for the government to take you out rather than the mass shooting also there's mad hydrogen cars already and there's literally like i think there's like over 40 hydrogen stations to charge your hydrogen cars so it's like i don't know man those people are isn't that the plot of the movie chain reaction with keanu reeves where he discovers a way to turn water into electricity i'm pretty sure that's the plot of morgan freeman

Keanu Reeves 1996 film Chain Reaction I'm going to look it up real quick chain reactions in 1996 American science fiction action thriller film directed by Andrew Davis starring Keanu Reeves Morgan Freeman Rachel Weiss Fred Ward Kevin Dunn and Brian Cox

The plot centers on the invention of a new non-contaminating power source based on hydrogen and the attempts by the United States government to prevent the spreading of this technology to other countries That's exactly Yeah. I think in the preview, I remember. So there are two things I remember about this from the previews. First one, he takes like a glass of water and he just lights it on fire. He's like, see, I turn it into energy. Could be fracking, but could be his like proprietary science thing. And then secondly, I remember he outruns a nuclear explosion on a motorcycle in it. So like a giant building blows up and he's on a motorcycle just driving away from the blast. It was fucking sick. But yeah, no, I think you're right. Like that's that's the exact type of conspiracy that people.

people are going to pick up on and run with. There's also the other, and by the way, before I forget, Matt Dogg, can you take a note of this? We should do an entire episode on the Clintons. I would like Big T to lead that discussion. Well, he was going to, whether or not. I don't know that you do want that. Big T, I'll take that round.

We want that. We want that. Listen, don't twist my arm. Because people, it's weird, like, because Hillary Clinton was running against Donald Trump in 2016 a lot of a lot of libs felt the need to like make hillary clinton their queen and to be like she can do no wrong this girl is girl boss energy i'm with her like i'm with her objectively maybe the worst slogan in the history of american politics they they they made hillary clinton into like a hero oh yeah the baby's jesus and gunswood is pretty

bad sure but that for uh for okay presidential okay okay i feel like there was some turn on century ones that are probably pretty terrible. I don't know this is a hot take amongst concerns, but make America great a game is pretty fucking stupid. And it was jacked from red. But, but whatever you think of Trump, I'm not like it was, it had a message

though. Like, that was the stupid part. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but like, but people knew like, like what that was. Like, I'm with her didn't make him up with. Didn't mean anything. The hats, I, listen, the hats were, they were trash just in terms

of the design. There's the arrow is the arrow. Well, both, I think both the Hillary moving forward and they, they like explained, well, the arrow is pointing to the right because that's the indication of progress forward. So, yeah, we understand. You read left to right. Thank you. But that logo is bad. Also the logo for Make America Great again. Those hats are bad. They're just bad. Poorly designed hats. That's fair. No, the hats. They're bad and all the parody hats are worse. Yeah, agreed. The whole point of the hats were to be non-mainstream like hats because they were. Like there was a whole stuff I like read about this article like they were supposed to be more like trucker hats and like not your typical baseball hat or something because it's less like modern less like it was the cheapest hat he could buy yeah yeah yes no it was just a hat with regular words on it I don't think we need to read too far into the cheapest font the cheapest hat yeah we don't know we don't need to read into the design no there someone wrote a whole article about it probably after the liberal it was a liberal a liberal wrote an article about it that since the hat. was not like, you know, synonymous with like sports or like urban wear that that's why it did so well.

Right. So it's an after the fact reading of like here's how it caught on. And it just it just caught on because Trump got a lot of fans and it became a hat that was like this was from the same. Fuck you to the establishment. This was from the same people who wrote that stuff about the fork at my dining hall. Okay. But Billy, I'm not I'm not denying reading it after the fact and saying like, okay, post more. him here's how it caught on i'm just talking about from a design standpoint that was not at all what they were like what they were trying to do going into it they were just like we let's make a hat that has words on it and then they said okay they were in there in the war room saying how do we upset the establishment what's like a certain certain material

that it was fucking hat it was trash too yeah it was just okay uh the one design actually two things that we need in this hat one it's got to be red to if we could center the words in it and that's all they said then they said okay you you take those instructions and and you do what you have to but back to Hillary because people were like so on the left they were so anti-Trump that they turned Hillary into like this this goddess that walks among us and uh like she's she's done some objectively shitty things and it's become like tough to critique Hillary without people being like oh you're maga you know um so I would I would I watched her, I watched her, she has a documentary on Hulu and it was like, it was a little good, like, what?

A couple of years after the election that came out. Yeah. And, man, it made her look really good. I was, I was like, I was like, am I fucking up or is this propaganda? Like, oh, I'm like, I'm fucking up. It was really bad. And she was like crying. Like, this was her moment.

and she squandered it. She fucked up. She did. Yeah. Well, she's had like five moments. First was 2008, and then she got blown out of the water. Then she almost loses to Bernie Sanders, and then, like, they kind of rig that for her to make sure she's the nominee, and then she loses to the second most unelectable candidate in the history of American politics, second only to herself.

I remember in 2007, my father said if they, don't elect Hillary now, she'll never win. And if the Democrats truly want to hold power, they'll elect Hillary now and have Obama run in 16. And he was right. I see no way like that would have on Obama would have dominated Trump head to head. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Well, anyone else would have. Yeah, it's crazy. Well, no, Biden would not. No, but like that's what's crazy is Biden could be, you can make the argument that Joe Biden is the third most unelectable president in the history of the United States. it's behind well he won other

didn't want Trump yeah that's how bad like Biden was so bad but they're like anybody with Trump that's what that's a lot of people that I know voted for Biden was like that like I take it did you see Bo Burnham's like song

that he released the other day no it was like how is the best option Joe Biden was like the main thing of the song and he originally wrote that to be in his special that came out a couple years ago but he put all this stuff out that he didn't make it yeah and people were saying

this song would have memed Trump into a second term. That's probably why I cut it. Yeah, it's possible. I actually think there's a window out there if anybody wants to become like the the biggest cheerleader for Joe Biden, like the biggest Joe Biden stand. There's really no one out there. I guess like those shitty like Occupy Democrats accounts that just only they end every single tweet with retweet if you agree, you know, like those shitty ones.

I think there's, there has. really been somebody that's like, I'm a Joe Biden stand and this dude fucking rocks. Not profitable. All the mainstream media. Yeah, true. True. Who in the mainstream media is like sucking off Joe Biden? It's a joke, guys, calm down.

Everybody. I might do it. I might become like, fuck yeah, Joe Biden. Don't do it. Joe Biden goals. Look, he just sucked on his wife's finger, a couple goals. that when he like bit when he bit Dr. Jill Biden's hand

was sniffing children sniffing children hey listen he's that weird old uh dude the man just he just loves how kids smell he's a dead person who they have to step somehow he's not a vampire we can't have Bernie's yeah like there's

nothing going on up there he's thinking about ice cream and nothing else so their their giant plan was to just like stand in Joe just like get the other guy of the White House we'll have Joe hang out and hopefully not die for four years. And then and then Kamala, is that the, is that the plan? No, that's shame.

I hope that's the plan. If the Democrats plan has run president woman cop, like we, they've got to have better plans than that. They just have to have better plans. So they don't. Obama was like this thing. Obama wasn't the plan. He just, was it the speech in, was it Chicago or Boston in like 06 where it was.

Well, it was the 0.4 convention, right? There was a couple of them. Right. Local elections too. But like even that, so like the one thing I will say about Obama is like I'm not a super fan of him. But the one day, like he was extremely knowledgeable on policy. Like he will sit there and talk to you about policy. And he was just so eloquent.

He was an eloquent speaker. And he was charismatic. Like those things are like a recipe for an electable human. But like the pitch hitters for the Democrats these days are just, It's bad, though I've got a prediction I think it's going to be I think it's going to be Mere Pete

I think that's who they're going to try to You can't run him again either I can't I'm just saying I think that's who it's going to be He was just running an apology the other day For fucking up something I can't remember Oh yeah I saw that

Wine Cellar was the wine cellar thing Yeah Mayor Pete's wine cellar No it was a wine cave It was like a wine cellar would be fine Like those are affordable You can buy him at Walmart A wine cave is way too far No it was it was something that had to do with his job

he was given a speech in a wine cave it wasn't his wine cave oh it was like a donor speech but still wine cave it can't be him florio has a wine cave as well so cross him off the list hmm um they got they got no one it's going to be i think it's going to be mayor pete oh and then my my favorite i do think it's fucking funny in 24 yeah i think it's fucking funny how uh the conspiracy has started to bubble up last time about mayor pete was that he's not even gay. He's just saying that he is for the clout and so that more Democrats will vote for

him. Yeah. It's such a funny conspiracy. Like it's object. It's 100% false but it's also very funny that there are people that believe that. He runs then the Republican the GOP will rerun the I'm with her stickers then.

Yes. That it's like a big honor. For sure. And then who will the GOP who are they who's going to be the next or DeSantis Oh yeah easily they've been prepping him for a good

little man I don't think that's going to happen I do you know it's even funnier is that Ted Cruz is fucking gonna be so sad and that makes me happy he's been

he's been he's been trying to swing at this for a little minute and then DeSantis he's going to pass Ted Cruz is the Hillary Clinton of the Republican Party that's fair y'all think

y'all think DeSantis is going to run against Trump and beat him? No, so I agree. I agree big team on this. You said DeSantis was the ticket. No, I want DeSantis. I think he'd blow Mayor Pete out of the water.

I agree. But I don't think, that's, uh, pause. I don't think, come on. If Trump runs, I don't think he's going to run against him. Yeah. Nobody's going to run against Trump. If Trump runs, nobody's going to. Oh, no, no.

I got the big, I'll take that. I got the. biggest glass breaking moment Trump doesn't run for president but whoever wins the Republican primary makes him VP he would never do that Trump is the biggest what about

Trump's psychology thinks he's he's gonna ever go no no but that would be the biggest that would be the biggest Trojan horse glass shattering moment where it's like I'm back motherfucker I don't know if literally but he wouldn't do it he did Cheney that shit base is Trump like Trump is the GOP

like if you if you say bad against Trump like I don't think that's I don't think that's true right but who wins but like for example it was someone's gonna win it was I think it I think it will change very quickly who's but who's gonna win the primary someone has to win the primary even if Trump doesn't run so then someone doesn't run and then here comes to the national election Trump just slides just make Trump the king like like how England has just like have him do all the ceremonial shit like welcoming the kids to the White House and the big cool

trucks, have him do, like, play golf with everybody that's in this country on vacation, like all the big celebrities that come. And, and then, like, just set up a camera around him and then put them on a reality show. And then you kind of get, you have your cake and you eat it too. I know he's pissed a lot of people off and he's this, that and the other. I think can we all in this room agree as king with no power? Like he give him no power. It's purely a ceremonial position where he does all the things you described. I mean, there's no one better. Yeah, no, Absolutely. There's so many people better.

There's like millions of you. Obama would be better at that. Obama would be way better. I think Big T's describing the entertainment factors. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah. I was super entertaining. I mean, but like it'd be so funny. We have like a list of entertainers in this country. Again, again, y'all are thinking of cool people who like do cool shit.

I'm talking about like, you're describing. The queen is not cool. No, she isn't. But, I mean, Mad Dog would disagree. What is, what is he? Right.

Correct. Like, if you're saying he's going to be like speaking and stuff like that and he's going to represent us, like he's for sure going to get us into more wars. Even if he has no actual power, that's what would happen. If we nominated him king. I'm just envisioning the picture of him in his tuxedo standing next to the queen and doing events like that all the time. And I think it'd be hilarious. Like, hold on, throw in the paper towels. well no so that wasn't that funny like it kind of is because of how ridiculous it was but he was there to provide like relief to people that were literally dying then didn't have electricity for months yeah so like i understand how that's how it's like entertaining that's the aspect that i okay okay we're done with her fun i'm just saying like i i agree with big t in the fact that um having him just do a reality show of him being present where he has no actual power would i mean it would be must see tv i think i think i

I think the entire country could watch it. Does he think he's president now, is the question? I don't know if he knew he was president then. According to some, he still is president. Mike the pillow guy does, I'll tell you that. That one, I'm going to the grave for Trump. That shit is hilarious. We should all be lucky enough to have a friend during this lifetime as supportive

as Mike the pillow guy has been to Donald Trump. I agree with that. That's a rider die, dude. Bad pillows, by the way. Really? Slept on one. I was at my. uncle's lake house for Christmas and and he had some not good pillows do you think his

too soft the political activism has that detracted from the quality of pillow you think I don't know but I'm I'm a firm pillow guy and they were they were too soft yeah that's sad you know I'm currently a free agent between firm and soft pillows like sometimes firm works for me and sometimes soft works for me and so I'm just I need I need some more options because right now I'm struggling you're describing the two parties system right now. Have you looked at the pillow cube? I have the, I have the cube. So I, I, that does not work for me. I need the, but I also got the biggest, you know, there's three sizes you can order. I got the tallest one. And so that one, that one was, that one was kind of hurting my neck a little

bit. So maybe I go with the smaller zone on that one. But if you look at, like, if you look at my bed right now, I have like six different pillows. Like, they're just different. No free ad. So I'm not going to say it on the show, but I just texted you a brand that you need to look into good pillows over there so all right i said i love the name too that's i like to go firm pillow for the body pill like to lift the legs for the back or between the knees soft pillow for the head interesting i i also have i've got three different kinds of pillow that i use i've got the soft i've got the firm and then i've got the wild card one which is in like the uh the the the pillow case that has the lines on it, like the decorative pillow.

Although it's a real pillow in a decorative case. You sleep on that? I don't. I thought you're supposed to put those aside. But I slept on it one night and I woke up in the morning. I was like, this is the best pillow that I have. Now I had lines all over my face because it was a decorative one. I still haven't, because I'm a lazy fuck, I haven't taken the time to take that pillow out of the decorative case

and put it into the standard sleeping case, which is what I need to do because that's the pillow that need that's the best one see I have starters and I have bench players in my pillow game what do you have a pillow that you put in when you need a spark right so I have pillows like when I take my pillows to the laundromat like whatever so like I use the proper covers to who are the starters and who are the bench players and the bench players they don't get play they're usually under my knees while I sleep on my back to like make sure my back doesn't hurt when I wake up and then do you have a liberator do you have one of the liberator pads that you sleep with your your legs up on what's that

look it up i don't know what that is i do that because my back hurts if i don't do that so you put how many pillows do you put under your legs one do you and then you also put one between your legs no no that's if i'm sleeping on my side hang on billy odd you do you don't want one of those you don't want one of the things pfd said the liberator yeah you don't want that it's great i have kind of a psycho move with my pose oh what the fuck that's so niche you would have had to like use one of those no at my last it's not niche if you grew up in the era where you had to use porn magazines occasionally um the liberator ads were everywhere in there so this was like pre internet porn i got to clear my browser history yeah

watch out for that one also i my memory was refreshed about the liberator a couple years ago in my apartment complex uh down in in the courtyard where people put their uh their cardboard boxes for the stuff that they were throwing away, there was a giant fucking Liberator cardboard box that someone in my apartment complex had ordered a Liberator that they like didn't break down properly. So they just put the box out in the courtyard and then it just stayed there because it wasn't broken down so like a month. And so every time I would take Leroy outside, we'd have to walk by this giant empty Liberator box. Imagine you just found a Liberator on the corner with like some old furniture like when people are moving. You're just like, oh, let me

just take this on with me. I'm sure that you can find some. Some people have definitely stumbled upon one in like a thrift store before. Fun fact for you fun fact for you non-athletes. Those those are great for elevation when you're icing at lower extremities.

Hmm. Well, non-athletes you're talking to. Billy. Because Billy didn't know. Every single way. No. I was talking. Billy, Billy didn't know that.

I know that. Like, what's it? Rest, raise. Rice. Rice. Yeah. Rest.

Mad Dog is an athlete. Rest, ice, compress, elevate. That's right, Matt Dog. One thing. I was an athlete. But there's these cool things called Navy Seal Naps where you literally put your legs. I want to try them.

They're like eight minute naps. You put your legs, basically like you lay on the floor, put your legs on a couch and your legs are straight up like, how do I explain this? Your legs are over the side of the couch. Your butt is up to the edge of the couch. Yeah.

And it totally raised your legs and like you sleep like that for eight minutes. You don't actually have to go to sleep, but it's supposed to rejuvenate you by like draining all your blood. But then I was thinking, what would happen if you slept like that for a whole night? How energized would you be? You'd have too much blood. I imagine that your legs would go to sleep. Yeah. I think the eight minutes is so that you don't go numb.

Is it just to get your blood rushing around? Yeah, Billy, why don't you give a shot? Okay. All right. Billy's going to take the next minutes off the show. Yeah, do I'm going to give you an eight-minute timer. Yeah, please do, Matt Dogg. We'll dive into the data later, and we'll see how these eight minutes do in terms of listener engagement.

And we'll see if the show is more popular when Billy's not on it. Just go up against the couch on. Here, I'll switch with you. Yeah, Big Tea. Sweet. Calling in the right. Yeah, perfect, perfect. All right.

So, Erin, your free agent when it comes to pillows. Yeah. You also experience free agents. in the NFL, free agency is a major tenant of labor battles over the years.

How about that? Do it to them. How about that? Beatty, I see you. So Billy's going to go lay down and put his legs up on the couch. That's hilarious. This is Loki and Billy Tam out, by the

Billy, are you going to participate in the show while you're down there? So here's what's going to happen. Yeah, Billy's got the microphone. I mean, I can. Yeah, you can participate in the show. You might be, just really fucking good at podcasting when you're

imagine I just unlock a different level. You sound better. I'm starting the timer now. You sound better. You guys had guests come in. You're like all right, listen, I know how other podcasts do it. We lay on the ground here. So get on the fucking floor. Getting a bed in the podcast studio would actually be awesome for interviews. People would just completely relax. This is actually so chill.

So, Billy, you wanted to talk about the history of labor battles, right? So I was looking some statistics about stuff was popping off my feed on Reddit and I don't have the notes in front of me but some of these labor battles and skirmishes basically where you have

corporations or Pinkertons enlisting like agents to suppress their own workers from unionizing and fighting back in these sort of riots the casualties in some of these are like comparable to like some of the

skirmishes we're seeing like Ukraine right now or in a bunch of like smaller battles, like throughout the world. So like it's crazy to think that there was that level of insurgency in our own country that's comparable to stuff today, just not even in a war time. Just, you know, just for people to operate in society. So what would happen would be back in like the 1800s and 1900s, there would be these giant industries, whether it was a factory or if it was a coal mine or some giant corporation like that, that would essentially start up their own town. And they were called company towns. And it was, let's just say coal mining for the sake of it. There would be a company

that had exclusive rights to mine coal in a certain mountain in, let's just say, Kentucky somewhere. And what they would do would be, since they were the only game in town and they were paying people, everybody would flock there for their jobs. The company would also own real estate around the area, which they would then set up their own stores in. So they would have their own convenience store, their own butcher, all that stuff, their own drug store, things like that. And then all the housing that would be available for people that would work there and their families, that would be also run by the same company since they owned all that

real estate. So they would set up their own apartments or their own townhomes, things like that. And so they controlled everything in this town, including the police. police forces. There were actually security forces that were bought and paid for, like literally, they were just a functioning arm of law enforcement that belonged to the person that owned this particular part of the mountain, or at least the mining rights on this one particular part of the mountain. So they controlled everything. So not only did these companies control how much they were paying the workers, they also controlled how much the workers had to pay them

back in terms of their rent, in terms of their food costs, in terms of everything. So, So they were just putting everybody on like a fixed income, but they were also taxing them over the course of their employment by selling them all the stuff that they needed to survive as a family. And so when the workers would figure out what's going on in these types of situations, they would try to ban together and unionize and try to get more money and threaten to withhold their labor so that the bosses couldn't make money and hit them in their pocket. books. And then since the bosses owned the security forces, they would send the security forces to break up the strikes. So the people that were actually like walking around outside, the picket lines that were preventing other people from taking jobs, preventing like people from becoming scabs, they would send their security forces out to like beat the fuck out of them and sometimes kill them. Because things would get violent. Like if somebody was crossing the

picket line as a scab to try to work when when everybody else in the company was going on strike there would be violence too they would like keep them out physically they'd be like no you're not going into this mind you you can't work because we're all going broke and the only way that we can defeat them is if we all withhold together so there would be violence that would break out on that end and then there would be violence that would come in over the top from the employees of the company that would just like fucking start shooting and just beating people to death and so I think that's what that's what you read a lot of yeah and remember all these guys were war vets so many of them had arms training and i was reading about i remember doing this in a push in high school but just rereading all this

and sort of getting really into some of the lesser known ones like these guys were pulling up with machine guns in the early 1900s and gaddling guns and just having all out wars with these private armies just in i don't even know how some of these minor some of these miners or other types of industrial laborers got their hands on these weapons but you know it's just wild to see some of the casualties and actual armament that was involved in these labor squabbles so billy do you have any stats on you that talk about the craziest battles uh yes but i have to get off the floor you permission denied okay no how much time to yeah running a science two minutes and 50 seconds uh does anyone else have any

i just remember that sometimes they number like up to like 300 to 400 dead on either side and there would be like 33 000 versus 10 000 like in straight up battles yeah it was like it was armies can you imagine if that should happen nowadays yeah if there was like a a battalion of 13000 coal miners or amazon workers all right yeah 13 000 amazon workers going to war against like the seattle police department that's definitely owned by jeff bezos how sick would that be that i mean pretty metal it would be metal as fuck yeah i mean that's and it's all taking place in chad what is that place in seattle oh yeah capital hill autonomous zone yeah they're just going to war there now can you imagine no civilian casualties can you imagine if there were if there were 13 000 amazon employees

and they like started rioting against the Seattle Police Department how quickly like the National Guard would swoop in yeah like it would become it would become a fucking bloodbath I think the only thing the most modern equivalent trying to think

that we could picture something like that is maybe LA riots I don't that's a little bit different though because that's a different type of right but I'm trying to think of like what kind of like chaos can be comparable.

Every NHL player starts beating the fuck out of the refs. The Vancouver riots because their hockey team didn't win. Yeah, that was actually, that was crazy. That's the closest thing it could be comparable to. Like, they destroyed all downtown Vancouver just because they lost the Stanley Cup. They were like throwing trash cans through windows and shit. But, no, I mean, those were more about, they were more about labor, more about like the people that were working in these areas, they couldn't afford to do anything.

and so the only recourse that they had was to go on strike and then essentially turned themselves into an army which is crazy I feel like if that happened nowadays the reaction would like nobody

people would panic actually I think people would panic and they'd turn it into like this whole country is going to hell and like it would become a civil war well the thing is just there's no way for low-skilled labor to ever really like for example

the Amazon workers I mean I'm not to say it's low-skill labor but like the influx of immigrant laborers coming to this country has definitely sort of quelled has sort of stopped that sort of power that a lot of the unions had or

people trying to unionize I think it's made it more difficult yeah like for for low-wage jobs yeah that's why I think because there's been like a natural divide that's created All right, Billy, that's your eight-minute nap. I didn't even nap.

You said that you didn't have to nap. I think you did have to nap. You should call that a... I mean, it's a Navy nap. I think you had to close your eyes and not talk. We should call that a Connor nap. Oh, that's a good one. What do you think about that, Big T?

Okay, so I'm going to... I'm going to be in Nashville this weekend. So Big T was giving me some advice on places to go out in terms of where to golf what was the name of the golf course

that you said okay got it if anybody else out there has any advice for places to go in Nashville please let me know

I've got my bars that I already like in Nashville I've got my restaurants that I like you've probably heard me talk about at least one of them

before have you ever gone a pedal bike tour I will never do that you know there's lucky sake no it's not low-key sick. I did it one time in Austin

and it looks way cooler when you drive past it and you're like look oh man those people are peddling and they're drinking on the road. It goes so fucking slow if there are any hills at all it's just a big pain in Nashville because it's not it's pretty flat. Dude do that you get to bring your own booze

and it's insane and it's like when you're walking when you're drunk is like so much easier like walking long distances like peddling when you're drunk is so much easier. Yeah I could just ride a bike. Yeah but you don't have to steer someone else is steering all right so billy look up look up some fun facts about or just some facts in general about the uh the labor battles that you want actually i'm just

going to read the names of some of these because it's insane uh the battle of blair mountain 1921 the heron massacre uh the uh the battle of verdan like this isn't a war these are like so i let's not just let's not just read the names about them let's let's let's let's talk a little bit about each one because the Battle of Blair Mountain, that is the biggest domestic military conflict since a Civil War. Yeah. That happened. So that was West Virginia. Mm-hmm. And it was 10,000 coal miners against 3,000 cops and strike breakers. Yeah. So, there was about, wait, where were we? Okay. So the individuals involved was the striking coal miners, the United Mine workers. This is the Battle of Blair Mountain. And then

the other parties were the Baldwin-Feltz Detective Agency, the Logan County Sheriff's Department, the West Virginia State Police. So there's 30,000 National Guard that were deployed for 10,000 strikers. And those 10,000 strikers had just been dealing with 30,000 of the local police departments the casualties were a hundred striking minors were killed a thousand arrested 30 local police killed and three national guardsmen killed so just guess not you billy but maybe arian you guess how many how many shots do you think were fired in this confrontation there were a million a million shots were fired that's so many fucking bullets to be fired also they're terrible shots so i just want to point that out a million shots and they only hit 100 people so here so at getysburg

there was an estimated seven million rounds of ammunition so it was a seventh of gettysburg so that's pretty nuts damn um and i think when they unionized I think that was one of Mother Jones's speeches. Yeah. Wasn't it? You guys know Mother Jones? Yeah, Mother Jones. Mother Jones was...

Girl boss. No, Mother Jones, she would just, like, travel around the country, just like, like, cussing at people and screaming at crowds, getting them to rise up and unionize together. It's like the really, really, really poor people. Yeah, Aaron, you should read about Mother Jones. You would love her. Yeah. You and Mother Jones. be tight you and mother jones would be tight but yeah some crazy stuff all right so read some

more names of some of these confrontations billy uh so there was the battle of verdone in 1890s that sounds like a world war one battle battle of verden yeah 1898 the pana coal company attempted to import african-american strike breakers because it was was a battle in the world war Verdun Yeah Verdun This is V-I-R-D-E-N Oh, so it's pronounced exactly the same

Yeah, well I'm I just I've only read this So it could be Byrdden Yeah, it's in Illinois Got it So This had way less casualties

But basically they're trying to Bring in African American Strike Breakers when they went nuts and got into a total battle with the strikers and yeah they try to stop the train and they just started shooting at the

professionals who were trying to defend the strike breakers being imported in there was five killed okay so on the striking side there was eight killed 30 wounded on the strike breakers side there was five killed five wounded this was back in the era where there were a bunch of like private detective agencies whenever you hear the name of like a last name detective agency i automatically think like 1910 like evil movie villain was there any like that was the pinkertons right

They just call themselves detective agencies That's when you could like kind of organize your own militia As long as you gave yourself a name that sounded like you were to the police And people would be like, okay, I respect that I think that like dates back to the Haymarket affair of 1886 When basically there's a bunch of Pinkertons trying to disperse Striking workers and then someone threw a gigantic dynamite bomb into their midst That's right, yeah

Yeah and blew a bunch of them up, right? Yeah. Dude, I mean, these guys were going crazy. Yeah, the Pinkerton detective agency. I'm going to look them up because I want to get some of the facts right on this one. Okay, so they were founded in 1850. And they foiled a plot to assassinate Abraham Lincoln, or so they say.

And then, so that gave them like a little bit of street cred. And so then Lincoln hired their agents to spy. against the confederacy and made them his like own personal security because he trusted them at the time and then they ended up getting um they ended up getting hired by every giant corporation every one of the bosses in america so that they would be like they would become private security for like the biggest corporations in the factories and then they would just like fuck up union organizers it would just show up and beat the shit out of them watch uh watch the sopranos episode where they do that that's that's basically where they got it from

All right, so the Baltimore plot was a conspiracy in late February 1861 to assassinate president-elect Abraham Lincoln en route to his inauguration. Alan Pinkerton founded the Pinkerton National Detective Agency played a key role by managing Lincoln security throughout the journey. Scholars debate whether or not the threat was real. Clearly, Lincoln and his advisors believed that there was a threat and took actions to ensure his safe passage. So I'm trying to read here about the actual plot. That would actually be mad. Like, imagine if I made you think that there was a plot against you, and then I solved it. And it was, oh, went away.

I solved it. I feel like that's, that's like a common trope in sitcoms where you, like, set somebody up for a disaster just to try to save their life. And it usually, like, backfires and you get caught setting it up. We should make. It's like when, you know what it is? It's like when Billy was trying to bench press 275 pounds. I did it. And I put, I put too much weight on there because I knew that he.

could only do 255 because Billy and I benched press the exact same amount of weight. And so I put 275 on there just because I knew that it would fail so I could then grab the bar and save Billy's life and make him trust me forever. Just like my soft hands. Yep. But yeah, I feel like that's in TV shows all the time, right? The old like, I'm going to set this up. So there's probably a million episodes of Simpsons like that.

The only, I mean, the most famous. famous private detective episode is when they make drinking illegal and Rex Banner comes to town and then they end up catapulting him out of town yep dude remember that conversation we were having over text uh which i put arian's brain completely in a pretzel by comparing communism to religion it did not put my brain in a president it was an absolute pretzel because it's a bad it's a bad analogy because it's entirely an no it's like the opposite of it no it's absolutely the same like think about this i will but right so so communism right it's never like true communism how not socialism not national socialism not how you described it like

communism which is was not demonstrated so we're looking at ticot and basically talking about how this and like coffee making place was basically entirely communist and not communist in the real sense but advertising itself as like a commune where people would like try co-op and sort of do all that stuff which is not communist right

so then this TikTok commentator was like oh my god ha ha ha they commodified communism and then we're in so then Big T brought it up and Aaron was like that's not communism that's not communist so arian what is communism when you talk about like economic theories like there's it's like a broad umbrella term of a lot of different facets right but in in its basic form it's a classless moneyless stateless society now has this society has this

ever existed no so except in star trek in fiction so how did it work out in star trek can dominate intergalactically we're we travel amongst the stars case close meet other civilizations very well then have sex with them so as i was saying this idea of communism captain er riker riker riker was he was on the extra treasure holler was captain kirk was captain kirk like clapping alien cheeks yeah absolutely kirk kirk and riker were probably the two horniest star fleet people in in existence. Big T, can hear me

water real quick? So my thing was like, okay, so we don't know, we had this idea of communism. People who want communism strive for communism, but they don't know that they have an idea that exists, but don't know if it's possible or if it really exists.

So I was like, that's exactly what sort of religious people who think, pray for salvation. and want salvation through belief it's the exact same premise so i was wondering arian how you balance that sort of same uh almost ideology of believing in something that you might not know exists or will ever be possible to exist as an atheist who does not believe because you're drawing parallels that aren't analogous i think it's absolutely like i originally said okay is is is not and you are you believe in a god so i believe that there is uh divine construction

which might then cause uh like you know an afterlife got so you're not necessarily religious right right but just in that i believe no it's not a gotcha i'm just curious but i believe in religion in that divine construction irrelevant yeah irrelevant but so So you're not, I wouldn't, I wouldn't consider you religious, right, by your definition. Right. And so the, the, the, the, the, the, the parallel that's drawing that is not, um, correlated to, to a, to a hope in a better society is that the core tenet of religion is faith, right? It's a belief without seeing, belief without psych, whatever they say. Um, and it's not, I don't believe in communism.

That's not. that's not an accurate depiction what is i think that it has some tenets that we should strive to um emulate like that that is a very different thing that i believe when i die something happens or i believe in a higher power without having any kind of evidence to back it up but does that make sense do you have any evidence that communism uh in striving towards different tenets of communism is possible or even beneficial if it's never existed, but it's never existed. So how do you know? There are microcosms all over, right?

If you have, we grew up in, we grew up, we evolved from communal environments, right? To where it's not about the exchange of labor, right? and how we quantify that, where it's about the basis of human kindness, of, I'm going to do this, not because it's about me. It's not for me. It's for us. We grew up in that. I mean, that's how we evolved.

And I was not, I mean, in order to get into the economic theory, you had to have all your shit in order. I don't have it with me right now. I can, we could definitely have that conversation when I'm more prepared to have that conversation. but there's there's um i think a basic difference between something that like an economic theory that you believe to be true and then a not even believe to be true that believe will have a benefit for society and i don't think you'll find any communist um that believes you might right

you'll be hard pressed but like that believes right now throwing this society into communism will be beneficial that will be chaotic nobody i don't think most rational agents don't believe that I just think there's more parallels between this idea of something that has never existed and we are not sure is possible to something we don't know exists. But nothing has, I mean, capitalism has never purely existed either, but you believe in its tenets, right? You believe that it's freed us from X, Y, Z or whatever, poverty, all that shit, right? Like capitalism has always been regulated to some extent, right?

but the definition of capitalism is not as not having regulation. So it's, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, when you, one you, has actually existed. These are all thoughts. Right. So to not get into into into the tense of capitalism or its virtues or its ownfalls. But Billy, to answer your question of like how can you how is that not just basically a religion? It's like saying. I believe that nobody should. commit murder in this world or there there should be no wars there should be no wars in this world if you say that it's never happened right in the history that but you can probably say objectively it would be true if there weren't what is the definition of religion uh no more i just want to say

the belief system of religion you can believe in something that doesn't exist yet that's that's sort of what i'm like the parallels i'm driving but what i'm saying what is your definition of religion uh any sort of belief system that fall yeah i think so if i believe one day i'm gonna have kids and i i don't i don't have kids am i religious towards having children um no the belief okay so uh the actual definition and that's sort of uh the belief in worship of a superhuman controlling power especially a personal god or gods so just like a divine being so believe in a divine being i mean i i agree with that definition but your parallel doesn't if if you're saying somebody it believes in communism

so as it's it's some supernatural deity like it's an obvious i think a belief of a belief in a divine being is sort of a parallel to a belief in a divine society that's communism how is a society divine like this idea that communism is a classless well now you have to define divine a superior like utopia yeah but i think you should look up divine the the word divine i think the biggest problem communists have is is the logo logo is way out of date the sickle and the hammer it should be a keyboard and a very strong logo it's it's strong but it's like it's it's out of date i don't think it i don't think it connects with the youth you want to update it like the gun emoji yeah it should be a keyboard and a iphone yeah yeah keyboard

yeah keyboard and a keyboard in a i a smartphone produced by a very large corporation yeah a bluetooth it's sponsored by bluetooth technology uh no i just did you look up divine yeah or well it's now loop of from or like god or a god so not divine but superior a superior being in a superior that changes the definition this is why i said what you're saying is not analogous so like to believe in something does not necessarily mean that you believe it's it's in its divinity right like like to for an example Muslims Muslims love Jesus Christ right they think he was a prophet they think he was a wonderful man but they don't believe in his divinity so they don't worship jesus christ right right they worship allah which is their god right and so so you can believe in

something and not necessarily worship it hmm that's fair i just wanted to i i'm probably not just explaining it exactly how i see in my head and but i just feel like there's definitely just like the belief we're not belief but this idea that something may exist and may be possible is what i sort of see the parallel i think i think i think you have a um i think you have a fundamentally skewed view of what religions um it's more of a tenants are yeah but it's more of a tenants are yeah but it's more of atheist uh atheists um criticisms of religion i think could also be applied to communism in communism as this not it's apples and oranges right but sort of we're talking about how this is socialist not communist this is in communism his never is not an example

of any of these things it's something that's never achieved that's not but like Like, that's sort of how communism is untouchable because it's almost like a believe type thing. Like, it's something that doesn't exist. We're going around around the conversation, but like the idea that atheists are like, well, there's no proof. It's the same way can communism exist? A total communist society exists. Can, uh, has it ever existed? Well, there's no proof.

I think that's, that's the allegory I'm trying to make. Well, that's what I'm saying. is no pure economic system has ever existed. Like capitalism has not purely existed. And so I don't think communists argue that this is the, this is the, this is the way the light and the, and the only way to go, I think what they argue is that capitalism at his core is, is exploitive and it's destructive.

And, and there are other ways to, to ease, worker relationships with the people. I think that's what they are. True. Anyway, we can move on. I just wanted to bring up that tidbit. I wanted to talk about the history of labor and sports because it's actually really interesting to look at.

If you think of the way that Major League Baseball, like NFL is set up nowadays, you have free agency. It's just like a commonly accepted thing that, you know, players after they get drafted, they fill out their first contract for that team. And then they hit the open market and they can either choose to resign with their own team or they have the opportunity to get, you know, 31 other franchises in the NFL into a bidding war where they go to the highest bidder and they maximize their value. And it's actually, it's like fairly recent, you could say, like going back to the 70s, before the 70s, you just in baseball, you had to play for whatever team you initially signed with. There was really nothing that you could do. they had a clause in the contract that was set up where you were not allowed to just like

you had to remain with the team that drafted you and it got challenged by a guy named Kurt Floyd so if you haven't heard the name Kurt Floyd every baseball player now owes a tremendous debt of gratitude to Kurt Floyd and he he's not in the Hall of Fame I think he should be I really do I think he should be because he changed how baseball is played. And everybody these days has like an argument of like a greedy free agent that leaves, gets a huge contract and then decides to stop playing or stop trying because it's annoying to your team. I understand like that mindset from a sport that has like a salary cap or whatever. You want to see your team win.

There's a guy that you spend a lot of your salary on. It's frustrating if they're not playing well. But there's also, you know, 99% of the other people in the league that are making a lot more money. for themselves and for their families that would not be possible if it wasn't for a free agency and if it wasn't for Kurt Floyd, especially in baseball. So in 1970,

Kurt Floyd filed a million dollar lawsuit against Major League Baseball saying that, I believe it's called the I'm going to look it up, I think it's a servitude claw, hang on, let me just double check on this because I should know this, but I forgot it. but he was he was going to be traded

and he didn't want to be traded the reserve clause excuse me it was called the reserve clause so the reserve clause meant that a team they had the player as their property and they could do that player what they chose they could trade them

they could sign them they could cut them and there's really not a lot that the player could do about it so Kurt Floyd challenged the reserve clause in 1970, went all the way to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme Court basically threw their hands up and they said, I'd prefer not really to rule on this.

Well, they did rule on five to three, but their basis on rejecting his claim was they were like, you know, things are pretty good as they are. I don't think that we need to change anything. There was no real like hard and fast law behind it. They were just like whatever. I don't feel like, I don't feel like dismarits a giant change in how we deal with Major League Baseball. But because he filed that lawsuit, because it went all the way to the Supreme Court, a couple years later, there was a decision called the Sites decision, which came in 1975, that an arbiter declared that Major League Baseball players became free agents upon playing one year for their team without a contract.

So it nullified that reserve clause. And that was Andy Messerschmitt and Dave McNally that ended up being the ones that benefited from that. Kurt Floyd never saw any money come from his lawsuit because, well, it didn't win, number one. And then two, he was blackballed after the fact. So no team would sign him because he tried to upset the apple cart too much. But if it weren't for him, you would not see players and you would probably not see baseball growing to the extent that it has. Well, you definitely wouldn't over the last like 50 or so years. But Kurt Floyd should be in the Hall of Fame for he essentially like gave up his career.

And he probably didn't understand the implications that what he was doing. He probably wanted, you know, he didn't want to be traded to Philadelphia. So he was like, you know, I want to do this for myself. Probably wasn't looking too far down the line. But it impacted the game. Like, you can't describe how much what he did impacted major league baseball and impacted sports in general that gave the players more power. Because they had zero power, absolutely zero power before Floyd. And, you know, they had to work jobs in the offseason.

They had, it was not like a living wage. they weren't superstar millionaire athletes at the point. But Kurt Floyd made a big difference back in 1970. And I feel like, I don't know, I feel like his name doesn't get discussed that much anymore. I feel like most people don't know about Kurt Floyd. So I obviously knew there was a time, you know, before free agency, but I guess I only thought about this now.

What if a team knew that they just have your rights forever, and there's nothing you can do about it? Like, what incentive was there to pay anybody? Like, did they go to arbitration? Well, because players could decide not to play Okay, so I guess So I guess they only had to pay you enough money That it was worth your time to play

Yeah Because like now there's kind of that situation Still in baseball in the MLB draft Where if you're a junior in college And you can go back to school And the team drafts you They have to give you a big enough signing bonus That it's worth your time to not go back to school

If you're a college senior They get like a $1,000 signing bonus And they're like We don't have to give you a big enough anything. One of the main differences back then, before the 1970s, was there were no lucrative TV contracts. So if you wanted to make money as a team owner, you had to sell tickets. Like, you had to have a decent amount of people coming to see you play in your games. And you couldn't do that if you had a shitty team. So they had to pay guys enough money, like the good players, enough money

if they wanted to get people to come see. That makes sense. So I think that that had a lot to with it back then. It's also why they jam doubleheaders in every sport in their stadium so that they can have it packed from sun up to sundown. Baseball should still play double headers, I contend, like scheduled. Maybe. I think like one Sunday a month play a double header and then you get an extra off day. Maybe. I don't know if the union would ever allow that. It's not a bad idea. In football, they had kind of a similar thing that they went through. Ari, do you know, how much do you know about the history of labor in the NFL? I know that there was no free agency up until it was the 80s.

I think it was the 80s, and I believe, wasn't Eric Dickerson like fundamentally involved in that? I don't remember exactly the history. Yeah, the competing leagues, that definitely helped. There was something called the Rizel rule that got put into place in. 1963. And in the Rizel rule, if a team lost a free agent, the team that signed that free agent had to compensate his former team. And if the teams did not agree to terms, Commissioner Rizel had the final authority to decide what the compensation would be. So teams were less likely to sign free agents because they knew that they, it was like a trade.

So it was basically a trade that the commissioner would rule. on whether or not it was it was fair and equitable to send like whatever assets that they were going to pay to the former team so it was just it was no different really than a trade for a long time there was a guy named freeman mcneal too i think you know that's right my dad went to high school with him frey mcneill really yeah so they played they played high school ball together he went to i believe ucla and then the jets so where did your dad go to high school banning banning high cars in California so it was in 1990 that freeman mcneal he uh he's he filed a lawsuit with eight other players against the NFL um so he was a he was a free agent after 11 years with the jets

and he thought that an NFL player could never i'm reading from the washington post article right now from 1992, could never be truly be free as long as the league prohibited players from moving from one team to another without costly consequences for the receiving team. I think that's a fair argument to make. It's not a free agent if, let's say, hypothetically, Lamar Jackson's contract runs up at the end of this year, and he wants to go play for the Minnesota Vikings. If that were the case, then the Minnesota Vikings would probably have to send the Baltimore Ravens like maybe Adam Thielen or somebody like a player of that stature would have to be sent back to the Baltimore Ravens if they wanted to sign Lamar Jackson, even though Lamar Jackson

would not be under contract for the Baltimore Ravens. So it was still like lingering property rights. Yeah, it's actually an interesting, like residual emotions that people feel like players are disloyal, right, for seeking out employment elsewhere and payment elsewhere, when that's just residual, like, exploitation from the NFL owners with bad and faulty rules. Because, like, people got used to seeing one player with a franchise their entire career because it was more monetarily favorable for the franchise to not have free agents come and go. that's actually interesting yeah and it only really existed in sports so if it was if there was like a

really good software engineer and let's say that person worked at like oracle and then you know their contract ran up after three years and they're like hey you know what i want to go work for Microsoft there wouldn't be like a bunch of Oracle fanboys being like that guy is a greedy fuck you know fuck him not even worked at Oracle like graduated MIT and was drafted oracle you're right yeah like they had a bad year they got the first pick that year yeah oracle would be fun engineer drafts they're like listen i don't i don't want to live in the bay area anymore uh real estate's too high i'd like to go i'd like to work somewhere closer to where my family lives you know and they're like any software engineering jobs i could take in miami

and people like fuck you dude you ungrateful piece of shit We drafted you. We made you our franchise engineer. The draft's going to be the next big labor thing. And I know it's really just Bomani who pushes against it. Everyone else is pretty in favor of the draft. But that's going to be the next big thing to fall, if it ever falls. Florio's against it, too.

He's against the draft. There's been more people. I mean, Tyler has been against it forever. there's been I feel like more of a push for it I think I think the second ABC turned it into the saddest three hours of television that's when more people were like all right

I don't need I don't need all this yeah the only thing I'll say about the draft is that there there's some value that gets baked into the league by having a draft where shitty teams are able to to get good players out of college

right which which team can you point Like the Jaguars have had so many. Bengals. Yeah, Bengals. The Bengals fit on one, yes. I mean, a lot of teams. But the Bengals even, like the Bengals. The Colts.

I mean, it's not that often that it happens that immediately, but like, the Falcons were terrible. They drafted a quarterback who took him to a Super Bowl and should have gone to a couple more. The Packers, the Packers would be a good example of that, too. Like getting Brett Far or I guess they traded for Brett Farrow. That doesn't really count. Yeah, they traded for five and they got Rogers in the late 20s. They got Rogers in late 20s.

The Colts. I mean, Peyton Manning essentially built that stadium. Sure, but even they were... That was a coin flip. That wasn't in the draft. They got that because of a coin flip. Edgron James. Edgren James.

Yeah. Marvin Harrison. Yeah, there were other... He hasn't out. There were other good players for sure. He hasn't out. But I'm saying like there's some... The Tampa Bay Lightning had like one of the best stretches of drafting

in the history of sports and they're about to win a third straight title. Yeah, Ovi for the Capitals. Colie, I remember talking to Tyler, Doug, and he was, he was, he first, he's the first one I ever heard, like, Yoshi, you should let players pick where they want to go. And I, when I first heard it, I was that you're silly, man, what was he talking about. But then he started explaining it, and he slowly swayed me. Can you explain it? Because I don't remember the argument.

Can you explain, do you remember the argument? It's kind of what we've been discussing with this Oracle thing. Like, yeah, if you would have to have, like, almost a second salary cap. like a rookie wage scale or it could be baked into the regular salary cap because if you think about it from your position coming out of Tennessee like you'd want to go not necessarily to the best team you'd want to go where you could play the most or where you'd think you'd have the best opportunity to earn so I think and we talk about it a lot with basketball and I think basketball skews people's minds because if you're the number one pick you might still want

to go play for the Lakers regardless of who's on the Lakers because you probably will get some minutes. But if it is capped and it is this thing where it's like, hey, at the end of the day, I still want to get my minutes because that's where I'm going to get paid by performing the most on my second deal. That's where like these shitty teams and this idea that like the Jaguars or the Browns, these perpetual number one picks, they'll still get plenty of, A, it will make them become better at managing teams. Like the New Orleans Pelicans, everyone wants to cry foul for them. because they lost AD, they lost Chris Paul,

they're probably going to lose Zion. It's like, you guys keep fucking up the same exact way. Why should you be rewarded with wasting these number one picks of careers? Like, why should they get that? This idea that it's like fairer, it really isn't. Like it's something to make the main argument is on the surface, it sounds like it'll be heavily skewed towards major cities. Right.

But when you really break it down, the majority of good players who want a second deal. And it's contingent on having a low bar for the first deal, right? And then majority of players who have won. Well, that's not really because if like, let's say next year's NBA draft has this French prospect, who's this generational kid. So if the Lakers, just for example, because they are the city, they are the team that most people point to, let's say they shed all their.

Those are facts, my guess. Let's say they shed all of their salary this year and they could just give them a max deal. Like, I don't see why that would be why that shouldn't exist either. Like, if you really wanted to put everything on this kid, and the NBA already has certain maxes, like he couldn't get the same Max Beale could get because he hasn't accrued the time in the league. He hasn't been named All-Star Games. So whatever the rookie Max could be, yeah, why not? I don't see why not.

But also, if you had like a team like Kentucky or Duke, where four of their guys did play for the same AAU team and they did play for Kentucky and they wanted to play for the Houston Rockets. Yeah, why couldn't they do that? Like, I don't. Yeah, so I think that's the thing. On its surface, it seems like all the big cities

that just continue to get the big market players. But the argument is, the theory is, the smaller market teams would end up getting a lot better quality players because they'll be hungry. to prove themselves and to get paid. And like, the more I think about it, the more I'm like, no, I don't hate that shit at all.

And Beaumani took it a step further on his HBO show this year where it was like, we've turned free agency into a spectacle already. So like the draft has become this moneymaker, especially for the NFL. It's this whole weekend of stuff. Make free agency the money. Like have these guys. show up, kind of like college signing day.

Like, yeah, I signed with the Tennessee Titans and, like, he puts on the hat. People go crazy. Like, you could still, there's still a way to satiate everyone's appetite here. Like, it doesn't have to be the draft. I still like the draft, but I do understand this point. I like the draft because it's chaos. I like teams fucking up. I like looking back five years and being like, oh, you really fucked up.

Like, I love that aspect of it. but in in the idea of actual fairness like it really isn't fair what uh was it hockey or base i think baseball big t you're going to have to correct me hockey or baseball just implemented a new rule where you can't get the top the top three pick x amount of years in a row i have not heard of that i don't think that's baseball might be baseball if you like they you you can no longer be rewarded for being incompetent so you can't just like tank seven years in a row and get the number one pick seven years in a row you can't just truly be bad like you'll just get jumps you're like I think the highest you can get is the six pick so if you're

picking the top three three years in a row like that's a good incentive because there are too many teams who are like like the Oakland athletics like we're going to keep our payroll in the dirt we're not paying anyone's shit the second you're about to get paid you're out of here we're trading you for more prospects we're going to keep our we're not even going to rebuild our stadium people are going to get injured climbing to their seats in the outfield That shit's going to stop. Like there's going to be salary floors. There's going to be stuff like that.

And if it's time to incentivize the owners to actually give a shit and not just treat them like investments, which some people do, some people don't. Hey, man, I am, I am pro no draft. When I heard him talking about, I was like, yo, fan, like, you're crazy. But it's more, the more I hear it, the more I'm like that is actually fired because you're right. It incentivizes ownership to really know what's going on in your organization. And it incentivized GMs to not make bonehead moves. It incentivizes players to bet on themselves. Like, I don't hate it, bro.

Like the Lions got their franchise quarterback. We know Matt Stafford's good now because he won with the Rams last year. We don't, like, they had him for a decade and didn't do shit. Didn't do shit. It also prevents tanking, which causes more parity. People will be competing. And then you'll have guys, because I think it'll be great for some. Yeah, like guys like Stafford, like there's so many other guys who just.

were drafted into bad situations and couldn't get a good place. And then some of those guys who are good, it would promote parity because they'll end up in another situation if the first time wasn't the best. And you'll have like better quarterback play. I think I'm just thinking of this in the quarterback mindset just because a lot of the number one picks and guys who flame out are quarterbacks. And you'll have a lot of these guys spread out across the league, which improves offensive play like way more and then we'll have way more parity in the league would you ever want to be a quarterback

that would that would go willingly to the detroit lions i think you'll have mid-level quarterbacks who know that they can start there and who like are in a like don't want to be in a competing battle but here's the thing though nobody thinks they're a mid-level anything correct yeah right but realistically mid-level but like for example let's say tom brady or an equivalent Tom Brady you know signed with you just because he wants to live in Florida who's the Tom Brady equivalent that we're thinking we're thinking about this in the future because I want to sign him like Desmond Ray that's what I'm saying that's what I'm saying they slotted him as a mid low mid level quarterback and he ended up being one of the greatest

of all times right but in his head though he wasn't mid level that's what I'm saying like if you're any kind of but that's what I'm saying like some guy would go to Detroit because I'm the best quarterback I'm going to Detroit because I'm going to turn that city around. It's not even that. It's like if you're if you're Mac Jones just for example and you went to you went to college with like two of the best receivers in the country you're like yeah fuck it let's go to Detroit like their problem is they don't have any of us three let's all go yeah but they I don't dislike this but so it would actually like teams wouldn't be able to do that though like you couldn't afford all three of those guys it would actually they take pay cuts to win and then

maybe get paid somewhere else. see that's actually where you would where it would fall apart where I think the league would step in and be like we've got to go back because if guys were taking pay cuts to go form teams like that right but they that's where like the cap would have to come into play

especially football you still since COVID I've forgotten 53 did they add they raise it to like 56 during COVID something like that maybe I think it's back to normal but yeah whatever it is and will be they're still going to have to work within those confines. So whatever the rule they set up is,

whether it's a rookie salary cap or if it just counts against your traditional salary cap, you're right. They can't have people all signing for like seventh round minimums. What you'd have to make, like the first guy you sign can make more than the second guy and so on. Maybe, but now,

I mean, now you just sound like a union buster. What do you mean? That's what it is now. People's wages. That's what it is now in the draft. Think about the Miami Heat when they signed LeBron, Wade, and Chris Bosch. They all signed for essentially the same amount of money. And LeBron was essentially much better than the other two.

So like, was that fair or unfair? I argue it's fair. That's what they wanted to do. Yeah. I just, I think that's different than when you're coming into the league. Sure, but these guys all, like, there is a risk here. Just because you were good in college doesn't mean you're going to be good in the pros. That's true.

But that's the risk you take in the draft. From the players standpoint. But there's going to be the risk of signing them, too. The players always like to make sure that veterans get paid their fair share, guys that have put in the time in the league. They have a share. That's a political term. Well, you know what I'm saying? Like veterans have put in time in the league.

They've proven themselves. They've built value for the team. They've built value for the league based on the. the years that they've played and they proved that they could do it. So it's important that they get paid commensurate with their value as opposed to like a rookie coming in. Like basically what broke the mold in the NFL was to Marcus Russell and the Oakland Raiders. I thought it was.

Sam Bradford. Yeah, Bradford. Well, Bradford got a lot of money. But I feel like it had more to do with the fact that Jamarcus Russell got paid so much money. And then 60Ms, didn't he? And then he was like, you know what, do I, why do I have to, why do I have to even show up? Well, that's the Raiders fault. Yeah.

So it's the Raiders fault for giving them that, yes, it absolutely is. But I think a lot of veteran players at that point were like, wait, that money should be going to us, like people that have put in time and effort and built like. I don't disagree with that though. That the, uh, that veteran players deserve a bigger portion of the pie. I would say bigger, right? Um, I think you're worth whatever anybody wants to pay you. But they should have reserved funds. for people who have given you labor overtime and has proved to be efficient.

Yeah. Yeah. I think that's fair to say. So in this, in this aspect, if you were to just... Especially health care, fucking bums. Yeah, so the way that the NFL divvies that up now is like, it's, I forget the exact number. It's somewhere around 50% of the money.

It might be 49, might be 51, I'm not sure. But that percentage of the revenue from the league goes to the salaries that are paid to the players. And so it was determined in the CBA, the most recent one, that of that 51 or 50 percent, whatever it is, that goes to the players, X amount of it is going to be set aside for the rookie pay scales. So they are artificially depressing the wages of rookies that come into the league, but it's more so to pay more money to the players that have already been in the league. So I'm curious to know how like eliminating the draft, if you make it purely capitalistic and purely

you know your any team can pay whatever amount of money that they choose to new players how is that going to affect the competitiveness of that team if there are veterans on these bad teams knowing that they're giving out massive contracts to

guys that haven't played when they've been there and they've already showed themselves yeah I mean if you're on a bad team I don't I don't know what to tell you if you stink Like, yeah, people are going to pay other people to be better than you. That's just kind of how it goes in all sports already. What was the question?

What was the question that you? I'm curious how that would tie into the concept of not having a draft at all. Like, what would the impact? Like, okay, let's go back to the Lions. I don't mean to pick on the Lions because I like the Lions and I hope they do well this year. But let's say that you've been on the Lions for four seasons. You still have two seasons left on your contract or whatever. And you've been a...

Bad deal. Yeah, it's a bad deal. You are... All right, let's narrow it down then. Let's say that you've played two seasons for the lines. You have two more left on your contract. And you got made a Pro Bowl one year. You're a good player.

Your team stinks. And it has stanked ever since you've been on it. Has stunk, excuse me, since you've been on the team. And then they're paying like a rookie quarterback who is projected to be, I don't know, like the fifth or sixth best quarterback in this draft, they're paying that rookie quarterback 15 million, 20 million guaranteed per year for four years. You're making $3 million per year.

And because you're able to just like entice people to come to Detroit to be a quarterback there because you're a bad team, it's making the wages that they're paying their existing players like you. It's keeping those a little bit lower. how is it keeping it lower because a bigger percentage of their salary cap is going to entice new potentially better players that haven't proven themselves to come play in Detroit because in Detroit you would have to pay them more money to entice them to come be a quarterback there because nobody wants to be a quarterback for you are we working with a with a cap for

rookies or no I see I don't know I don't know what that would look like because that's what would need to be figured out for sure yeah I'm not I think like I think like I think like has to be. I think there has to be a cat. I don't, I see both sides of it. Like, if you truly stink, right now, like, the Detroit Lions, if it won, I mean, the Chicago Bears have hit on zero quarterbacks so far in the history of their franchise, all zero. They've had picks all over the place. They've hit zero. So it's like, yeah, if that team wants to pay Trevor Lawrence, $25 million to come there a year, I don't, is that really going to bum people out? Like, is that going to bum out the rest of the thing? I don't think, if, if,

If you're going to have a salary cap for the league, then there has to be a cap for rookies, right? And the reason is exactly what PFT's talking about. Because if you don't, what you're going to have is you have an influx of people buying because the NFL loves to pay for potential, right? They let their favorite fucking thing to do. So you'll have an influx of people spending for potential

and not spending for actual efficiency, proven efficiency. You know what I mean? Which is like when you're talking about a labor-induced market, when you're talking about an NFL, right? The brunt of the labor is not by your quarterback. The brunt of the labor is by your guys who are actually in the trenches. And so if you've been grinding for four years, you made one pro bowl, you're a solid player.

That man will help you win. You deserve to have some kind of, um, um, uh, safety net from, from the league and the players union that says, we appreciate your services because we know, this is a quarterback driven league, this is our, this is our incentivizing, this is our incentivizing you to, to get paid. I guess when I, when I hear this, it still sounds like how

are we protecting bad GMs from being bad GMs? That's what it sounds like to me. Because a bad GM wouldn't overextend himself on only potential. They'd have a balance. okay then how do you how do you how do you how do you how do you how do you how do you how do you penalize bad decision making in under this model by losing that's not a deterrent that never has been sure but like if if you're like I mean this is part of the NFL as long as they're sharing revenue there isn't a ton of incentive

for the bottom third of the league you could argue like if they're going to like Jerry Jones has lost money by being part of the NFL as opposed to as being a part of the NFL's socialist collective bargaining revenue. If he and 10 other or 12 other teams decided not to, they could break that. And then the poorer teams wouldn't have that money. So if that's how they have to incentivize people, then that would be it. Because you're right. Losing hasn't incentivized losers. Like that's just what it is, like the Oakland Athletics.

Right. It's interesting. Like, it's one of the more fascinating ideas that would revolutionize sports and I think a positive way. But like, I think those details being ironed out need, would need to happen. I think you could figure it out. And you would probably, it would be a little bit of trial and error where I'm sure that there would be under intended consequences that happened. The first five years would be chaos. Yeah. Chaos. Yeah. What's. Check would be paying league minimum for work. But this is, I mean, this is. You have to pay us to play for the Patriots. This is, I mean, this is, like, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's so important though, right? Because when you look at, uh, labor history in general in America or globally, there's these, there's these issues. It's like Amazon, for instance, recently, right? And I don't know all the fine details, but they just, um, decided to, to, some Francis decided to unionize, right? But then even though you're still, your union, you still have to negotiate with ownership.

And that could take years, right? And there's so much leverage that the owners have. And so this is like a back and forth thing, which is going to happen here soon with the NCAA. That labor cluster fuck is going to have to come to a head soon, too. It already is with NIL. You have coaches saying, this is ruining sanctity of the game. It's basically saying it's cool if I get paid, but when you start paying these motherfuckers, it's chaotic because I can't control them. That's basically what they're saying. But again, you have to, like, labor laws,

like workers' comp. Like, there's a whole bunch of shit that's going to have to come to a head here soon, but it's like sports is like a little microcosm of what's happening amongst the people as well. It's just going to get interesting. What do you think is the least valuable first overall pick in all the major sports? It would be baseball? Baseball. Yeah, easily. Because it takes so long to figure out whether or not it's a hit. Yeah. And I mean, barely 50-50. My homeboy got, my homeboy got, my homeboy. What was the number one pick in 2004? Fresh of the high school.

Who? Matt Bush. Oh, okay. He went to the same high school. Didn't he just make a comeback like last year? I don't know if it was last year. It was a minute ago, but he had,

he went through some league of trouble and then. I remember that. And then he got it together. He came like a solid player. I don't know if he was ever an all-star girl. 2.6 wins above replacement for his career. He's playing, he's playing this year. Yeah, it was last year.

Really? I didn't know you're still playing. 21. Not I'm a big baseball guy I'm going to pull up on one of the games He's playing for the Rangers Okay Matt That's right down the road too

You did What do you think What's the most valuable First overall pick to have Basketball Easily Yeah Basketball football

Hockey What if they pause on About hockey about football Hockey takes a while too It can When you get one of those guys Like you get a Crosby You get an Ovatchkin

You get one of those guys You can say that in any sport though bro But, like, I was talking about, like, statistically speaking, you're probably much more prone to hit in football with a, when I'm more picked than hockey. I would say, I don't know. I haven't done this. I was, I wasn't even thinking of the hit rate.

I was more thinking of, like, just the impact when it hits. Like, if we're taking only hits, like, what's the biggest impact? Football. Yeah, a quarterback is. No, no, no, basketball, total. Yeah. Well, we agree basketball is one. basketball what if they pull a zion that's well that's just that's not a we're talking about like

actually the number two overall picking basketball is worth more yeah Kevin Durant John Morant case close like if you keep looking at number two's it goes way down hill no you can you can just cherry pick the shit out of that one yeah I think I think I think there's more consistent hits on number one in basketball than in the sport yeah what about I mean I I wonder if you look at football, if the number one overall pick turns out to be the best player, if there's like a different, if there's a different draft slot, like what is by the numbers historically, the most, the best pick to have. If you were to look at it, like, I don't know what metric you'd use because it's obviously different positions, like number of pro bowls or

number of all pro selections maybe. I've seen people, I've seen people do this for basketball. Like there is a noticeable drop-off once you get into the teams historically. Yeah. Football, I can't remember if I've seen anything on this before. I know what you're asking. I just don't know if the answer exists. You'd think it'd be one, but again, we've talked about, like, we all know the teams who have picked number one, historic.

Like, it's the same. Yeah. That'd be interesting. I'm looking at the top 50 draft picks in NFL history. Let's see if there are any that have multiple selections. So it looks like the 199th pick is the best one to have. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, that's the best pick ever. In the NFL draft, because historically you have Tom Brady that got selected there.

Joe Montana was selected 82nd. Jim Brown's sixth overall. I feel like six is a good spot. Just off the top of my head. Ray Jennings. There we go. There's two of them right there. Thanks.

Jerry Rice was 16th. but he cheated Lawrence Taylor second overall who got picked first above Lawrence Taylor that's a good question what year was that

that was 1981 NFL draft I don't know anyone I got a three down fucking Pat Dan Marino 27th George Rogers was selected ahead of Lawrence Taylor

that was Was Marino the best pick in that draft value-wise he was that was also Jim Kelly right it was Jim Kelly that was John Elway Ronnie Lott went 8th

I'm seeing a lot of number two overall here Like just Tony Eason and Todd Blackledge Was there another quarter of that? Mike Singletary Oh yeah there was Ken O'Brien Ken O'Brien went to the Jets Lawrence Taylor and Barry Jackson

or let's see Lawrence Taylor and Barry Sanders yeah they were both drafted second overall The running back was a bad pick you go with that shit retired early he didn't love the game I don't believe that

I push it I love the game uh yeah you can tell who loves the game because they stay around it like I'm going to he's still around it so he loved it

I'm going to go second overall is the most valuable pick in sports second overall in the NFL draft we got two of the goats Mary Sanders Lawrence Taylor who'd you say coli Zach Wilson

Zach Wilson yeah Legends all of them how we feel about Zach Wilson Billy well um I think he's gonna be electric number one two I've been looking at some of his camp

numbers that just came out from OTAs and he's throwing a lot of completions so he's doing a lot of I mean he's doing the right stuff he's throwing a ton of completions in camp Billy's been researching the deep numbers on Zach Wilson. No, look.

He's been reading all the statistics and it said, no, look, he's completed a lot of passes today. He's doing all the right things in the off season. He's flying out. He's flying out to where his receivers are working out and working out of them. He's not making them come to him. He's doing that. I think he's going to be at tight end university in late June,

thrown to all the tight ends. They invited him to tight end university? Yeah, he's thrown for them. Probably just so they can beat the fuck out of him and haze him. Well, I think we should send me there to find out what's going with Jake. If your emojis total up, yes. I know what you guys forgot about the emojis and there's so many times I deserved emojis in the last week that you didn't give me emojis. Name one thing that you've done the last week where you deserved an emoji. One,

just one. Something I did for you last night. Oh yeah, yep, correct. Okay, I'm going to give you an emoji. Yeah. What you do for him last night? Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. It's just me very sketchy. I know Billy. Billy did for you last night. Billy, Billy did great last night. Philly threw an assault rifle on the Hudson on behalf of the FD I'm going to update the sheet.

There's stuff I've done anyway. Big T, it's Stingley went second or third this year. Third or fourth maybe on this. It was Hutchinson. Oh, it's Hutchinson. Yeah, that's right. Doug. Eric Dickerson also number two overall.

Damn. I feel like that's pretty conclusive. That was 83, right? Those are my two favorite running backs of all time. 1983. So Seattle had the second pick. They traded back to three and took a different running back. All time bad decision.

They took the wrong Kurt Warner. They took the other Kurt Warner, Penn State's own. Terrible call. Damn, it's tough. How do you look at Eric Dickerson and be like, you know what? I like another running back more, actually. He was killing, too.

What is that, dude? SMU? Yeah, you gave him the death penalty because they were paying him. The Pony Express. That team was so fucking cool. And SMU hasn't been back since. Billy, give me a breakdown here of what you expect.

Like, what is Zach Wilson's projected stat line for 2022, based off of all the stats you've been reading coming out of mini-camps? I'll tell you his first game stats. Okay. Who's the opponent? Yeah, Billy doesn't even know this. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's, yeah, Ravens.

I think he's going to go, he's definitely, I think he's get 250 yards, three touchdowns, one interception, 20 rushing yards. win? Actually, yeah. Okay. Sounds definitive. Depends on Lamar Jackson's play. It depends on his bowels.

On Lamar Jackson's butthole. All right. Well, Billy, I'm going to be betting on your analysis, on your breakdown of Zach Wilson's expected points. In June 1st analysis. He's put out a lot of weight. You know how soccer does this all the time? They do like expected goals per game. I love that stat.

I have no idea how they calculate it, but... Nobody does, but it's good. It's good. Like, after you lose a game won nothing and it was like 3.4 to 0.2, the expected goals are like, this is bullshit. Yeah, you're like, we really should have won that game. Billy is our brain for expected yards and expected touchdowns and expected interceptions for Zach Wilson.

We'll see. I like that. Also, Chris Long drafted second overall. Recurring guest on macrodose. Huh. So how about that? Twice? No, we just...

We just say recurring guests. Oh, he has an open invite. Open invite to come back, yeah. Also, we have recurring listener, Kyle Long as I was going to say, and Kyle Long can come on. Kyle's been listening to old episodes and he's like thinking that stuff's happening currently, which happened like three months ago. Like what? Like texting Big Cat, like, is Billy really bankrupt?

Oh, yeah, yeah. So apparently Kyle reached out to Big Cat. because Billy was talking about how he didn't have any money after the state of West Virginia took all of Billy's hard-fought victory money over Jose Konseko, took those out of his paycheck. And so Big Cat was like, no, Billy's okay. And Kyle was offering to like buy Billy groceries, which is really nice. Like I appreciate that, Kyle. 100%.

You should have took it. Yeah, for a bit, Kyle Long should adopt you. That'd be fine. Well, here's the thing. Like buying Billy, I'm fine. with if anybody wants to buy Billy groceries at any time. But don't think that you have to because he can't afford, like, to buy his own food. He's fine.

But if you want to send Billy food, that's, I'm not going to stop you from doing that. Especially meats. Especially. Well, yeah, because Billy has to, you'll like this, Aaron, you'll appreciate this. Billy is going to go vegan for a month if Jason Tatum wins the NBA finals MVP. And that, that month would include the 4th of July, which is Billy's favorite meat holiday. Don't worry about it. He's not going to. He's not going to? Thank you. You're saying Tatum's not going to or Billions or fraud?

No, Tatum's not. He's not going to have to go vegan. Tateum's not going to win MVP. Marcus Smart will. No, no, no, Steph Curry will. This will be his first MVP. So you think it's more likely a guy who's never won it will win it over a guy who's also... I said what I said. I like that. Steph Curry MVP in his first MVP in his first final. Do you think it's a poor reflection on Kobe's legacy that he never won the Magic Johnson Western Carpins finals trophy? Next question.

They get the bad look for LeBron that he also never won said award. I think yes, because he could have. LeBron at least is 0 for 1 on it. Kobe's O for O. Never had the opportunity. Why did they rename that? They're still live. Well, they didn't exist.

They didn't rename anything. Oh, they didn't have trophies for? No. They created the award. Oh, they just did. Okay. Which is kind of cool, I think. Yeah.

What we're going to get is, I mean, we're already having a little bit of it, but it's about to be Steph Curry legacy season. People are foaming at the mouth to start talking about Steph's legacy. I hate it. They want him to lose this final so badly. it so much because if he loses because if he loses his finals then they can be like wow

Steph Curry he can't do it again without Kevin Durant the league has figured Steph Curry out we're about to get some of those takes Steph Curry has never won the NBA Finals MVP award he got carried to his other awards did Durant wins twice

I think KD won twice because Igwadala won the other one AI won one time yeah it was I'm AI yeah that's what I call Iggy I call him AI. You're the only person that does. Yeah, well, it's a, it's a fun thing that me and him have. That's not racist, but I'm going to say it's racist. That's how much I, that's offends me.

He's, listen, he's my favorite AI. How many more? That's, I'm, okay, I'm joking on that one. Your favorite 76 or AI. Yeah. Is there, Billy, what if I told you that the last one, two, three, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 15, 15, 15, 15, finals, MVP's were forwards. Hmm. Interesting. Quick question. Oh, that's not true. Wait, they list Kobe Bryant as a small forward.

That's not true. I certainly not. Quick question. Okay, so the last 11. Huh. Although, what, they started Fisher and Vuechuk. Don't worry about it. It's going to be a point guard this year.

Don't worry about it. How many more rings would Steph Curry have to win to possibly Like, like, I know it might be a lot. He's better than I'm already. Better than I'm already. Better than LeBron? To be, like, Jordan, LeBron, Curry. And he's about two or three more.

Yeah, that's what I'm rooting for right now. I'm actually rooting in a sick way. I'm rooting for Steph Curry to win. If he wins this year and gets the MVP, let's toss him. Let's just elevate him immediately. He jumps from, like, number 12 of all time to, like, in the discussion for the goat. let's do it because it's not going to happen but if he does if he wins this and he's the unanimous MVP like yo he won that series like he's done many times another series and then he

wins the next two if he gets a three-peak this or even if he gets a back to back he's in the conversation dude that's insane I mean he's already in that top 10 conversation but he's not he's not in the goat conversation no for sure not and I mean it's it I feel like we need a tinker and I know PFT's going to hate this, but it really should be era-specific how we talk about goats. Because if we were to talk about it, it would just be him. No. No. It's not air-specific. Because, like, I think that would be hilarious because- But, like.

Sure, right. And that's where I think Steph could never get, like, he'll never get there, ever. I was what I was just tough. But what I will say about Steph was, I think, I think if we're talking about, changing the game Steph and Jordan had equal impact I want to say equal I would say equal

but I would say they had the most impact about changing the game than any two players in this year's game yeah no question but you know what's crazy about that goat discussion

I don't think Steph Curry could ever beat Michael Jordan or Jordan one-on-one but that's not what we talk about I know Jordan Jordan like there wasn't a goat before Jordan just wasn't a conversation people had.

It was like Dr. Jay was seen as that guy. It was definitely a goat conversation. People just accepted it was Corrine. Like it was whoever the next generation of Big Man. No, no, no. I got a whole bunch of OGs that are going to argue with you. Dr. Jay. I just said Dr. Jay.

Oh, I thought you should people accept it. It was Korean. I'm saying it was kind of just like whoever was the best in the league, they were just like, yeah, he's that guy. It wasn't like a lot of looking back. There was a lot of barbershop talks, No, there's a lot of barbershop to talk about.

Of course there are. Magic. They see some Isaiah fans in there. Wilt. Bill Russ. It was, yeah, I don't know. You don't say it was unanim. What I'm saying is it was if people were more willing to hand off the baton to the next guy than they are now.

Why do why why does Will Chamberlain not get discussed as the goat? Yo, he's the strongest dude I've ever heard of. Five, I mean, 500 pounds he would bench press. I think he's. the greatest athlete of all time. I don't know about that. No, dude, there's a discussion. He's a discussion for best athlete.

He's definitely a, he's one of the greatest athlete's about it. Raw, but I don't think he benched 500. No, dude, there's, he worked out with Arnold on the set of Conan. Is there film of this? Yeah, dude, there's pictures of him picking up Arnold Schwarzenegger with one hand and literally like squatting insane amount of weight and running the, like, the 100-yard dash. I don't benching 500, yeah, dude, he was putting it up. You could bench press more than Shaq.

Pictures from a Hollywood set aren't really going to sell me. Hold on. Let's see. Wilts Chamberlain. But PFT, to answer your question, it's because Bill Russell consistently carried him around in his back pocket. That's why. Okay, so this becomes a Celtics thing.

Got it. He lost to him every year. Even when he went to the Lakers, he still lost to him. That's why. Where did Wilt Chamberlain pick up Arnold's Witt's a nigga with one hand, bray? I'll find the picture. We'll also find that picture He picked up the bench that Arnold was benching

Because if you talk about this one Oh The picture you picture might have cropped out Andre the Giant Yes He got into the butt He might have been strong But like 500 pounds bro is

Is insane And like he don't have a frame To have that strength Like He had dude The thing is well think about Shaq Shack benches 450 Exactly

Jack's. Look at the difference in the frame of Shaq and Wiltshire. So Will was 275. Wilt got into a push-up contest one time with heavyweight champ Floyd Patterson. Man, I'm not hearing any of these stories. He did 200 push-ups

in a row, fingertip style. Cap. That's insane. He could also run a 4-640 and had a 45-inch vertical. I believe that. I mean, he didn't he, him and him and Russell also were setting like national high jump records in high school. Like they were there were rivals in multiple sports.

I'm he was definitely one of the most athletic community beings that have ever breaks his earth. And like when you, he's one of them cats that could definitely play in this error, right? Like a lot of the cats that he played with cannot play in this error. But he absolutely without a doubt could. He also slept with two with 20,000 women. Arnold said that he benched 500. That's a quote from Arnold. What do you think the number actually is?

I think his number is probably like five, six thousand. Yeah, I give him five thousand. Still a lot of women. I'm giving him two. That's a lot. It's still a lot of women. Even if you divide his number by 10, it's still a shitload of women. I think the,

now with the modern STDs, I don't know if Will Chamberlain could have played in this area either. So that would be. Dude would be dead by 23. If he had sex with two different women every day, that would, you'd have to do that for 28 years, 27 years. Well, if you're doing four at a time, you're boosting those numbers. Good point.

Now, what is true? Yeah. What is talking about 40s are. Keep in mind, this is every single day. Every single one. Is it one pump? Does that count? Is he just, he's stat patting at that point.

He's like the mother Teresa fucking. Where he's like, that's one, two, three, four. He's lying on them out. He's baptizing several at once the spray. That's just unsanitary. That environment sounds. There's no way he did. It smelled crazy.

My number, my number is high, bray. And I was doing my thing. I wasn't Will Chamberlain famous, but I definitely took advantage. And $15,000 is in mind? Yeah.

More than likely, yeah. Holy shit. I think the, I think the bench, wait, what number do you say? Four figures. It's up there, man. What the?

It's up there, bro. I had a run. What was your, you won college athlete, not a pro athlete? like in the best guy on the team. Like, yeah, I believe that. You probably had a slutty year, right?

Like, was there one year that you look back on? You're like, man, 2010? What decade were you just about to? I was saying, brother, I had. I had a decade. It wasn't a year, though. I would say, see, college. College was like wild to me because it was,

um, it's like the first time you had freedom, freedom, where it's like there's no adults around and like I can do what I want. And everybody's just enjoying themselves, man. And granted, I was. pretty safe uh i i i i did i did i was pulling out you know i had i had i had my fair share man that's it that's a crazy year holy shit yeah i think the 500 pound bench press is way more believable than uh 20 000 was also doing this in the in the 70s too like that i believe the free love era yeah his numbers for sure i like it's not the most unbelievable i i i believe i

leave his sex number is more than it's a hundred point game yeah he gets he walks i don't know about that one he's like laying in bed smoking a cigarette holding up like 22 17 yeah yeah i went inside each one of them it counts will to wilds like he it happened at such like a perfect era for him to be such as tall tail now like there was when he was 16 and in high school he changed his name and played in a different league because he wasn't 18 yet just so he could start making money and he was just given these like single a basketball players absolute hell in western pennsylvania quaker town pennsylvania he was just giving them hell like can you imagine showing up for your like you get off your day job it's like i gotta cover wilt chamberlain i mean you shitting me right what was the surname do you know uh it was uh fuck i look it up that's funny yeah i want to know what wilt's what is gnome de garre was if it's if it's dope i'm going to change my valourine name today uh yeah george marcus george marcus yeah i don't hate it george marcus it's not enough to change my valour name what's crazy is like if you ever see a picture

and it's wilt chamberlain with your mom just like if she like any woman that happened to get their picture taken with willt chamberlain chances are probably 95% that they thought he uh he averaged 41 a game in that league when he was 16 that's the same i was looking up his numbers of the day coincidentally my guy my guy put up 50 a game one year well 50 and who won MVP i didn't see that come on now that was oh russell yes see there we go with that listen i'm not saying he wasn't a beast i'm not saying he wasn't a beast but if you put i think he I believe the year Wille average 50

Russell held him to 32 which it's like all right he still scored 32 you're holding someone 18 points per game below their average that means he's averaging 60 against the rest of the league

still put up 30 dog so you're holding him to half of what he's scoring against anyone else it's still put a 30 man that's a bad argument that's a bad argument that's a bad argument okay

you say you say half their scoring average is a bad argument so you're saying everybody else is just trash you're just not as trashes, which that's your argument you make. That's what I'm saying. No, that means he's scoring against everyone else and struggling against

the best. If struggling scoring is 30 plus, then we have an issue. You're scoring 30 on 30 plus shots, that's not a good game. Well, I mean, I say, I don't know his tally. If you know his tally, then we... I don't think they kept, like, they don't... My biggest point of contention

with that entire era, they didn't track blocks at all. Which is Same. I believe Bill Russell would have had, like, we talk about most unbreakable records in sports, like Cowropon Jr.'s consecutive game streak. I think Russell's blocks would be that. We just don't know what they are.

You know what's crazy is when Wilt was 45, the Cavaliers gave him a contract, and they said, please come play for us. And he said, no, I don't feel like it. And then when he was 50, the Nets offered him to come. contract too and he said no not going to do it sorry and then and then four thousand more women to sleep with i don't know he's right there i'm just saying i don't think there's there's definitely quality but with that much quantity i think there's drop off you think you're all was sad for dogs yeah i mean of course i think when you're when you're when you're in that mode you're not really

thinking, you're not really thinking, does this meet my standard? He's got the game, Stakes LeBron face, just when he walked to the club. Good Lord. That's a lot, though. I mean, they can't all be, they can't all be dime pieces. I don't think that there, I don't think that there are 20,000 women that he met in his life that would qualify as being like, I don't know if I've met 20,000 people. of people yeah that's so many people yeah like township you can set up a town i feel like i've

met a lot of people in my life i don't know if i've met enough people to have had sex with 20,000 people gangis khan didn't you put up those numbers i mean actually how do you know knock on wood i'd just in case he did like why you're not i don't know i mean have you got to where wait are you like what are you upset at yourself for uh i don't i don't I got in trouble some Genghis Khan comments Okay Well

Classic Genghis Just getting Billy left and right No because it's like I would like one time I was like wow It's so insane The genetic spread of Genghis Khan And then somebody was like Well it was all non-consensual

And you're just promoting Well we're not yeah I mean Genghis Khan and Will Chamberlain Very different people But Some of the most different people are saying But also to take it one step further here.

Pulled the picture of Otto Porter Jr. Also playing in these NBA finals because there may be a lineage there to to Wilp. How do you spell it? Otto Porter and then Junior. His name is Otto?

Yeah. Let's do it. All time. Where's name? You're picking the Warriors to win the finals. You don't even know it was on the team? Originally drafted by the Atlanta Hawks, straight into the Wizards on draft night. People forget that. I remember that former wizard. believe that trade ended up getting the Hawks Tim Hardaway Jr. Well, if you look at his father, Otto Porter, senior.

Listen, we don't know how far back this goes. Holy shit. If Will was putting up numbers like that, he had to start young. Oh, my God, auto. It could be his grandson because there's a senior. Oh, my. Wait. If I had known about this when the Wizards drafted him,

I would have become the biggest Otto Porter. I would never let this guy go. like one day he's going to become will there's also people I believe it's Nate people think Nate Thurman yeah no it's the same face bruh

bruh I mean that's crazy that's that's usually a lot of these look like just be other racist but this shit is that's crazy wow I wish Avery we're here to see how it's done

yeah that was so funny let's do um let's do um let's do a draft of the most unsimilar people throughout history if you create like

you're big two your NBA jam team of the least similar people throughout history that you can think of who are we going with Big Tee and Hillary Clinton No no the tire I think is similar I've seen I've seen big T wear

pants suits yeah a nice smart pair of khakis around the office I've never once worn khakis here not long khakis I'm the khaki shorts guy Isaac Newton for being the biggest Virgin ever and Wilts Chamberlain that's fair right

Isaac Newton and Wilt Chamberlain I bet Isaac Newton was getting it back in there No Isaac was an insult he was the biggest We had a whole episode about how much of a verge he was No again though I think that was cat I think he was fucking his roommate Wait oh

It might have been a big cover But he said that he He was a virgin. He hates sex. He said like sex, he said that sex is bad because it would distract him from all of his studies. Yeah. But that might have been just a ruse. Yeah.

A canard. He was also very short. Yeah. And Will Chamberlain is very tall. True. I think they're pretty big opposites. Yeah. Well, okay.

Yeah. I think that's, that's fine. That's a fine choice. Unless they have like, unless Will Chamberlain is huge into physics, which he might be. I don't think so. Let's see. Malcolm X and Clay Travis. Yeah.

No, I think they're both like orating. I think that's too close. Yeah. They both preach. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Different audiences. You got to make sure.

You don't get the fuck out of it. Was Malcolm X ever ejected from his son's. league game. He was definitely ejected for something. They both preach. He was kicked out of the nation of Islam, right? Yeah.

Yeah. There was a bad call. Same thing. Yeah. He's giving him shit. Yeah. I think you need to go further. Now, I think I'm about done on that one.

Let's see. Cleopatra and Bagel boss guy. You already gave yours, Billy. Yeah. I've given like six I'm gonna go hmm

I got it young jeezzy and and crocodile hunting that's pretty good they both in terms of their outlook on life

they both what I think they have more in common than you think Are you saying I'm listening I'm listening I didn't do this I didn't do this off my you know I didn't do studies on this is off my head Let me know really I bet they could find something in common because that's what I'm thinking like Jeezy and Gucci are polar opposites if you ask them I bet they like both know how to shoot guns I should know that much about you smidge racist You think JZ shoots guns? I don't know has he ever wrapped about shooting guns I don't know has he ever wrapped

about shooting guns I don't know has he Billy? I've never listened to it. You think J.K. Rowling's ever casted a spell? Facts. No, GZ. W.R. Yeah. I'm going, I'm going, I'm going, that's still going GZ and crocodile. Okay.

It's almost too easy to pair the H-man up with somebody, so I'm not going to go down that road. That's where your brain always go. MLK, okay, I got one. MLK and Jared from Subway I know the perfect pair to H-Man Who's that? Who's H-Man?

Hitler. Oh. We try not to say his name around here. I didn't know that he had a fucking nickname. Dalai Lama. Old Dolph? Dalai Lama and Hitler. Yeah.

I mean, they're both like leaders that speak in public. Fuck. I think they're like they're orators, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think. Jared led a lot of people to march, like to Subways to burn off calories.

No, I'm going to stick with it. Jared from Subway and MLK. So mine is one person and then one abstract, but it's a group of people. Nancy Pelosi and the average American. Can we make a graphic of, uh, of these. I'm curious to see what we're going to choose for the average American. It's just a picture of Big T.

Yeah. Nancy Pelosi. My alternate was Nancy Pelosi and Alvin Camara. I feel like they have zero things in common. I loki. I look. Imagine Nancy Pelosi runs in the club and starts beating the shit out of someone. Hey, whatever happened to that case?

Did we do you get said? What happened? I don't think anything. Like most NFL cases just kind of falls out of the news. Yo, do we ever talk about how hot Nancy Pelosi used to be when she's younger? I don't know. I don't think we've ever mentioned it. That was a different Nancy we were talking about.

Yeah. Oh, actually, can I change mine? Yes, please. Please. Nancy Pelosi, or excuse me, Nancy Reagan and DJ Collins. I feel like that's a pretty good, pretty good tag team there. Venn diagrams that, there's nothing that touches each other. They're both the best.

Calid is staunchly anti-oral sex. Yeah. He wants that known. And Nancy's like, uvulos are major key. Oh, my God. Oh. All right, Matt Doug, do you have one? Like, not, not really.

Aaron Judge Hoselle Tuve. Baseball. Jesus Christ and Mitt Romney. You're not thinking of white Jesus. Look at Joe. No, but Mitt Romney's Mormon. They're both into Jesus. That's what I'm saying.

If you said the prophet Muhammad and... Yeah. There are a lot of dissimilarities between Mitt and you're like, Mitt's got a big, he's got a lot of kids. Is that like a disciple? No, Jesus doesn't have any kids. Oh. Depending on who you ask.

Wow. If you talk to our friends in the Masons, they might disagree. Um, um, what about low key Donald Trump and Aryan Foster their numbers are probably

about the same in the way in the way he up there like that how many I don't know like he he lived in New York in the 80s

the only thing is he doesn't really party no he parted did he doesn't I thought he was a kind of a lamo. He doesn't drink or do drugs. Yeah, but he was just there for one thing. Actually, you know what?

Pussy? I've never heard him say that he doesn't do drugs. He always says that he doesn't drink because his brother was an alcoholic, right? Yeah, I heard he was an Adderall Fiend. Yeah, he might. I think he does say, I've never drank or done any drugs. Any drugs? He says that?

I believe so, yeah. He's never smoked? I would love to just bake him out. You don't think he smoked any cigarettes, like in the 80s in New York? I don't know what he did or didn't do. I think he says he doesn't Honestly smoking has made a huge comeback In the past like five years

Yeah Because people are trying to quit Jules Yeah Going analog Seriously I mean like I don't know At least in my parents generation

Like no one Like it was like all your parents smoked Yeah like my grandparents all smoked But then my parents don't smoke It's like when it skips generations So we're the So we're back on the cigarette grind Do college kids smoke?

Yes They do? I will not confirm Well, also, the prevalence of marijuana, everyone's doing chops and shit and buying nicotine. Well, yeah, and now, I mean, do you consider smoking, like, having a, like, a Nickstick? What's that? Like a Jewel or a vape. Nickstick?

Nickstick, I have never heard that once in my life. Bill, have you heard it? Yes. Mick stick? Yeah. N-I-C-C-N-I-C-C-Tin. Nick-Stick. That was dumb of me to say. I'm sorry about that. No, that's cool. That's how you make it cool.

Nick-stick. Nick-stick. but would you consider that like the smoking that like our grandparents did in like the 70s I think everybody used to smoke right everyone like my parents their generation their grandparents all them smoked they also yeah actually all my great my mom did smoke for a little I think I still think everybody smokes in college a little bit yeah not everybody some people are like I used to smoke cigarettes black of miles There we go.

Power rank your favorite flavors. I can do mine, too. It was just original. The rest of them didn't really get, I didn't really like them like that. You don't like the wine? Mm-mm. Wine was good. I would get wine when they didn't have regular joints.

The wood filter or the wood tips? Only wood tips, by the way. Those are great. Vanilla wasn't bad either. Would you smoke it for the buzz or would you mix it with wheat? No, it was for the bus. So I would only smoke, I only smoke. I only smoked if I was drunk.

Yeah. And when you drink and you smoke, and I'm not advocating that anybody do this, when you drink and you smoke a black and mild, it just takes you to this level that makes you want to sleep with a thousand people. Can I ask a question? That's probably like a white girl question.

What's like the difference between a black and mild and a sick? Um, uh, I'll go ahead. Black and mild is pipe tobacco. Oh. And it's rolled up in like a small cigar. Okay.

So it's a different kind of tobacco. And you're not supposed to, inhale it because there's no filter on there either. Right. But occasionally you do because it gives you nice buzz. But you're supposed to just like inhale it and then blow it out. Like how do you do that cigar? Sorry, you're not supposed to inhale. You just suck in and then you blow it out. But with a cigar, just like with the black mouth, sometimes you can inhale it. And then that gives you a serious buzz. I got into a serious wormhole about how smoking is more prevalent in Europe in the life expectancy of smoking in Europe is so much higher

because of the difference in pesticides usage from European source tobacco versus American source tobacco and how pesticides may have played a huge role in the prevalence of lung cancer in America blew my mind so European sigs don't count sick they don't

yes I just don't we go so smokesy cigarettes I haven't really heard that much of Tu parlese? Like what's going to happen with Southern Virginia in North Carolina as kids are just Yeah kids aren't aren't using tobacco anymore

I haven't heard that much from people that live there Like I got to assume that The tobacco farms which are everywhere down there are probably going through some hard times I still think though I still think it's a big enough industry That it's not like crumbling We should they should just regrow Replant all their fields with mid

grade marijuana. That's what they should do. That's, I think, what's starting to happen. Not with, I don't know if it's with tobacco fields, but like, it's just like marijuana fields are starting to, or like plants. Yeah. I think that's a good solution, though. Just subsidized farmers to grow mids in North Carolina, start a new state in between North and South Carolina called Mid Carolina. And you just grow, yeah, the skankiest weed ever. I think that boom, problem solve crisis averted mid Carolina mid Carolina even do that up in North Dakota and South Dakota everyone's going gluten free they're probably losing like losing some value on those wheat fields maybe start mid Dakota I was gonna say do you think do you think tobacco fields or

marijuana fields could survive up in those harsh climates probably not up there no no you'd have to just it have to be a domed state what's a domed state just make a dome oh just make a giant greenhouse out of mid Dakota I think we just solved it. Do you guys want to do some voicemails? Sure. Let's do some. Hey, what's going on? This is Andrew from San Luis, Missouri. I just want to start off by giving some flowers to Aryan. This last episode with the Black Hole, I think, was the first time in all your episodes

that you called a Mark Wahlberg movie, and it was correct. So, well done. Flowers to you, sir. Um, my question for everybody is, if cryogenic improved, uh, what would be your, you know, age that you're going to go and commit to that? Uh, would you do it now? Uh, if not now, when would you be willing to freeze yourself? Uh, the black hole episode really got me thinking. And I was just wondering, you know, would you be willing to just freeze yourself now for

hope of a better future? So this guy's asking Would we kill ourselves To hopefully like come back in the future No Or what He's talking about freezing yourself Yeah like how Walt Disney's present

But he said would you do it now What age would you do it at? I think if it was if it was viable If it's a viable thing Is what I understood Well it is you can freeze like But you can't come back to life though correct so like people do it when they die but he said would you do it now like if the technology was there

I think that's what you're saying yeah no I don't understand like if the technology if the technology was there to do what to freeze yourself and then come back in the future so to kill yourself so that you could come back at the same age you are now yeah and then be in like a future reality that seems pretty pointless no because then you have to learn so much new shit I'm so down with reality now. So down with reality now. Not like that down, but like day to day. Yeah, it would be exhausting having to come back in like 200 years. And I mean, think about how different the world is right now from 1823, right?

Yeah. Like you have better. But imagine time traveler coming back and be like, okay, so here's your phone. And they're like, what? Oh, yeah. They're like everything, everything about the modern day. It's like, oh, you, we, I need to go to work. He's like, what the fuck is work?

Well, you get in your car, what? Excuse me? That's true. Everything's exhausting. I would do it if I didn't have kids. Like, I want to see my babies grow up, man. So, but if I didn't, if I was out here living for me, absolutely. I'm over this shit.

Take me to where. It'd be kind of cool to do it with like, with your significant other. If you guys were both down for it, if there are no kids. But like, you talk about a crazy vacation. like let's go to the year 3000 yeah i wouldn't want to like what's that movie fuck what's that movie where they like go to mars and then they just have to accept the fact martian yeah that adds up but like i wouldn't want to let's assume okay you wake up in a wait wait wait wait that's matt damon oh fuck what who are you talking about no i he was right

the movie where the movie where i think it's the I thought that was Mark Rawls. Like the movie where they go to Mars, but then they have to like basically say goodbye to everyone because by the time they get back to Earth, everyone's going to be dead. I wouldn't want to deal with that. I wouldn't want to like prematurely say goodbye to everyone I love. Hang on. Y'all said Martian. Are you talking about the movie Martian?

You're talking about interstellar. No, no. She's talking about them. Are you talking about the movie where they like shrink themselves? No. Okay. I'm talking about the movie where they go to Mars. What movie would, honey, I shrunk the kids?

No, no, no, no, there was a movie recently. It may have had Mark Wahlberg in it. No, no, I know what movie you're talking about. Oh, no, it was Matt Damon again. And they like, they like shrink themselves. Yeah, they shrink themselves and then like go live in a society. But then it gets fucked or something. His wife didn't want to shrink with him and then just shrunk him and be like, I want a divorce.

Oh, I saw that. That wasn't Mars, though. No. Yeah, I know. I know. I know. But the way she was describing it, it sounded like that's what she made the time out. Like, I wouldn't want to, like. Was it Mark Wahlberg or Matt Damon?

No, it was Matt Damon. I wouldn't want to say goodbye to everyone Yeah, they're just in very similar films They're same guy different font Yeah that that's the best way to put it same guy different font I don't know I don't know if maybe I would do it when I was like 75 or 80 That'd be when you come back old as fuck Yeah but then I'll just die I don't know

Might as well just die now Yeah but then like honestly at that point you might as well find out what like what's after life like if you really It's a novelty. Yeah, but also think about it. No, think of, oh, wait, what? The future or find out if heaven's real. Spin zone. That televised night's where he was like, my nana is 88 and her birthday's coming up,

but I don't know what to get her. He says, get her a coffin. Spin zone, what if, okay, so what if I go, I live to 80 and then I freeze myself, wake up in like 2,200, so like 200 years or whatever the fuck. And then, by then, they've created. something where the lifespan can get extended by a significant amount, then I do like, ding, double life. Double life, yeah, it's smart.

Okay, it's a fair, fair point. That's what the old dude in contact was trying to do. I've never seen that movie. That movie with Jody Foster. Mark Wahlberg? No, I don't think Mark was in there. No, I know he's one of my favorite movies. It's a good movie.

What old dude? He was the guy that was like funding the entire trip, right? And he wanted double life. And he was in outer space floating around, like, trying not to die from cancer. Yeah, yeah. But yeah. I don't really, it would grow slower out there, though. Yeah, like you age slower.

It's a good question, I guess, but I don't know. There's so much that goes into it. Also, it's hard to, like, think about it when the technology isn't there. It's like, well, what does that even entail? Okay. Ready for the next one? Let's do it. Hey guys, and Mad Dog, this is Levi from Grand Rapids.

I just wanted to know if you were allowed to have one fictional item from any book or movie, what are you choosing? Thanks. Love the show, guys. Big fans. Bye. Easy, limitless pill. Have we discussed this before? Because I feel like the easy answer was the remote from Click. Yeah, I said the limitless pill. Oh, you said the limitless pill? I think it was like the last two or three episodes actually. Yeah, but I think it was like the item, like not the real thing. What?

I would like to have a remote from click. I don't know if you've watched the movie. It kind of fucked his life up. Yeah, but he learned a lesson from it. Yeah, but he learned a lesson. Yeah, that's the important part. What about, uh, I was going to say Tom Cruise's F-14 from the original top. If we do that again, I'm doing what you just said, that the,

the contact movie that little uh that the machine they built oh so you can go to to heaven basically i wouldn't call that heaven would she wouldn't wasn't it it wasn't heaven it was it was it was it was like the aliens way of communicating with them through what they know best and that's like through relationship yeah yeah she went to like a different planet and then the alien took the form of her dad yeah and talk to it yeah yeah that was fire Because, oh, damn. I mean, shit was the 90s. Yeah.

Yeah, I would have one of those. That would be fire. Speaking of Top Gun, I just watched it for the first time this weekend. The original? I need to watch, because I want to watch the second one, obviously. So you watch the first one, you're ready. Fire, no. Dude, someone's so sick.

Oh, I love that. I think it's better than the first one. I think I want to see it for different reasons, and you guys want to see it. There's not that much of reasons why you want, like, that, like, segments, like, literally, like, 10 seconds. What segment? Are you talking about the volleyball scene? Maybe. No, no, she wants to see the football scene.

The dog fight football scene. Yeah, no, but she's saying that she saw the original enjoy the volleyball scene. She wants to see that recreated. No, no, no, I just want to see Miles Teller. Oh, gosh. I don't get the Miles Teller. Billy doesn't think Miles Teller is even that hot, Maddie. Yeah.

Those don't get, I know like 10 guys or 20 guys. Gliny balls yesterday. Glini balls. said that Miles Teller might be the most famous person in America and what's his name?

Miles what? Teller. He's one of the guys in Top Gunn. He's not, he might not be in the top 100,000,000. Yeah.

500. I mean, this movie's going to make him more famous. He had a moment in 2013 to 2015 because he was in all the divergent movies. Project X.

And then he changed, then Glenn, he changed his take to the most famous movie star. in America. He's not even the most famous person in that movie. That's insane. Yeah, it's crazy.

John Hamm. I would say John Hamm is probably more famous than Miles Teller. Absolutely. Did you see why? Did you see why they didn't invite Charlie back? Charlie from the first movie. That was Tom Cruise. That was his flame. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it did see. Why? Because she said, she said

because I got fat and old and I looked like what a 50-year-old was supposed to look like. That's what she said. Oh, yeah. She does she looks like really pretty in the first movie she looks like a normal woman like normal like I mean she's not overly you know what I don't think she'll be but she got a little bigger it it happens but rightfully that's how I saw Hollywood operates they don't want they don't want regular looking people on on screen yeah did they say that or she said that she said that they said they said they which was bullshit they said because I looked it up because I was like yo who is this random love story that they just got me invested in so I looked up why I looked up why I why Charlie wasn't invited back. And they said that Maverick, because he lost Goose and he was going to want to give too much away, but he lost goose in the first one, they wanted his story to be looking forward and not looking back.

You know, that sounds like bullshit. Wow. That sounds like bullshit. Yeah. But I do want to see the second one. I actually, I also, it was a good movie. I do want to see the second one. I've heard it's just like a really good movie.

Fucking fire. But also I don't think it'll be bad. I was in the movie theater like a little kid like, yo, they about to fuck it. I love you. Yeah, it was great. I grew there, and I think it's better than the first one, which is saying something like the first one was an incredible movie. This movie...

I grew up watching that. Like, my mom made me watch that and I used to love, like, I know all I could reset all the lines and shit. But like, this one's better. Yeah. Tonight, actually, by the time you're listening to this, last night, on the part of my take, Twitch, I flew the mission from the new Top Gun and an F-18 on my flight simulator.

When I was watching it, they said all your plane names, and I was like, I know all of these because of PFT. Yep. I'm meant to ask you after the movie, like the force, is that, is that a real thing? The G forces that they're talking about? Like, I'm talking about if you, if you, at that rate of speed, can it really, like, knock you out like that? Yeah, yeah. So, like, if you've ever been on a roller coaster that goes around a turn or, like, goes straight up in the air really, really fast, you feel the effect of gravity on your body and your body feels heavier.

Yeah, no, I know that's the shit. to have a whole ride, you know, around gravity and even though when you stick to the wall. Yeah. But my question was like, can you actually be like knocked unconscious because of it? Yeah. It blacks you out. So what happens is like all the blood rushes away from your brain into like other parts of your body. So you do black out. That's when you pull back. That's when you experience like more G forces. And then there's another thing called redding out, which is when you experience what your body experiences too many. negative G forces. So an example, that would be like if you're up really high in an airplane and you dip down all of a sudden, everyone kind of like flows out of their seat a little bit. Oh, but if you're pinned down. And so what happens is when you red out, all the blood

rushes to your head. And so instead of like everything turning black, everything turns red. So that's that that can happen too. So obviously in the flight simulator, I don't have the experiences of the blackouts. Maybe I'll just have to like chug, chug. So did you actually, did you actually drive the the route that they did? Yeah. So right now, looking forward to tonight, which will have already happened by the time you're listening to this, I had somebody set the mission up for me. So I'm doing the exact same like weaving through the canyons. And I'm not giving away too much of the movie here because it's pretty early on when they say like what the mission's going to be. I'm going to be doing that entire thing with all the defensive missiles and

the bomb, you know, what time you're going live? I'm going to check, I'm going to check you out. 8 p.m. on the part of my take, Aaron, you made the graphic for his promo. Yeah, I just tweeted out a second ago because Hank sent it to me. And so he asked me last night because the graphic that I put out, it's the top gun graphic, except it's like my head on Tom Cruise's body. And then there's these other vignettes on the side that show like side characters in the

movie. And he asked me who I wanted in the six of them. So I had Billy dressed up in his army fatigues at the urinal in the airport. in one of them. I had Arian from Draft Day as one of them on there. I think I had me and Big Cat as old people. And then Miley Cyrus, I just tossed her in there. I'm going to hop in there, man.

I think I'm following the part of my take to it. How many people stream from that shit? It's me. Sometimes Hank and Billy will do Warzone. Sometimes Big Cat does like Coach Duggs where he plays NCAA football on there. I remember I was in his. I was watching him one time, and he was Tennessee.

Yeah. He was doing Tennessee, and I was in the chat, and he saw me in a chair. He's like, should I go for it? And I was like, fuck it, go for it. Yeah, that might have been one of the first times you saw, you saw Big T. Because Big T, you were on, weren't you on one of the Tennessee streams? No. For Coach Duggs, you weren't invited?

No, I wasn't here at the time. I was back in Nashville. Yeah, it was, it was like right. It was during the height of the. pandemic when there were no sports on whatsoever and so we did yeah we did a full season of dugs and i know me and billy were billy was his like offensive quality control i think it was a quarterback coach you got demoted several times of the course of that season um breaking news guys okay oh yeah Johnny Depp mm-hmm city boys up where happened that one one Amber heard owes 15

million dollars in damages so what were they what was yeah somebody Walk me through exactly what they were. You never get what you're awarded. Stay out of. He'll never get that. What were they? What was the point of that thing? I actually only learned in the last two minutes.

Were they just put in court just so that everybody could see these two freaks testifying each other? It was supposed to distract us from Davos happening. I don't know about that. But it was a sci-op. So obviously the whole thing is, you know, Johnny Depp is suing Amber Heard for defamation. but what I have been seeing is that it was almost like a people's court thing so everyone was going to side with Johnny Depp so no matter what happened in terms of the trial the whole reason why was so heavily televised was so like people like us would see what's going on in the court every day and be like well you know Johnny Depp like obviously you know got screwed over by Amber Heard yada yada yada and no matter what happened to the trial Johnny Depp would be like would win in people's court in public opinion. Oh, so it was more to get people on his side.

It was like a PR. It was a PR move because. Because of how bad the- And that's why it was in Virginia because of the Virginia court laws with like putting it on TV. Wait, that whole trial was in Virginia? That goes to show you how little I've been paying attention to the whole thing. Well, that's why, because it's why it's weird because it could have been in California. It could have been in whatever state.

Like, I think, like something about the county. She could be televised. So what is the ruling exactly? What did they determine happen? The original article. She wrote an op-ed saying she was a victim of domestic violence and did not mention him by name but mentioned the time frame when they were married. And the jury found that she acted with reckless disregard for the truth.

Yeah. Got it. With what thing? What did she? what did she publish that was recklessly incorrect that she was abused domestic violence

when it seems like that may not have been the case or like maybe it went both ways in this one yeah I think that's kind of I didn't pay attention to this at all really bad for each other I mean they both seem like freaks yeah I think there was

I think there might have been something on both ends but she acted I guess dude she's a psycho like legitimate like not even

my shardy was following that a whole trial people in the office were following it like she I'm talking about she was she literally right before she said that she texted me

said that she texted me said that she'd say Johnny Depp one like the the videos of her like allegedly doing coke while on the stand is insane

I saw that one like in her napkin yeah she was like pretending to blow her nose and she's blowing like sucking in not blowing out She's like, respect.

Yeah. Like, imagine what a freak you have to be to bring Coke into court to use while. When it's your own defamation trial. While you're being interrogated in testimony in front of a judge and cameras, and you still can't take like five hours off to not do coke. Like, what? Is it real or is it? Look, Amber. Send it.

Send it to it. It's wild, bro. Yeah, but I think a lot of it was a court of public opinion. Because his whole thing was, you know, he got ripped out of the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. Like, he lost all this money and reputation for it. So putting it on TV gets way more, you know, eyes than just if it was a court case. Now he's innocent in the eyes of the public and so that he can resume his career. Well, now he's innocent in the eyes.

or innocent in the eyes of both like court of law and court of public opinion yeah so people are like oh now people are on his side the whole time but now it's his reputation being it's also to reward him

lost wages for like yeah it's that's what that's why the award is so high it's because it's lost wages yeah and if you're someone like Johnny Depp that's a pretty big number that looks like

actually is. Also, Johnny Depp would love to have you come on macrodosing. Yeah. Johnny. I cannot wait until he goes on Joe Rogan because he's going on.

And Amber Hurd. I want to extend the invite to both of them. Oh, Amber Hurd, come on this podcast because Johnny's going on Rogan. We will help sway the court of public opinion. On you.

On you. You can do as much coke as you want in the studio. And we'll start to go fund me. Yes. To pay Johnny. Yes. And alleviate some of your,

some of your pain. Your deaths. Yes. Some of your Johnny Deppes. Okay. I forget with that question. Was that all based off the... It was the one fictional item you don't want to bring.

There's one more. You want to do one more? Yes. We're running short this time. We just hit three hours, I mean. I usually do four. Let's give it to the people. I'm a marathon podcast.

I'm from Ross, Illinois. What's something that exists in our world right now that you feel you could go back in time and invent and get rich and get rich and ams for it for me i feel like i'd have to go all the way back and invent chopsticks because i'm not a very smart individual and i couldn't invent like google or a computer or rocket or anything so yeah let me know what you guys think uh love you all love the show face i love that guy's realism where he's like i'm not that smart i can't make google i could take two sticks and then use them

to pick up other stuff and set expectations properly right there yeah because none of us could invent the iPhone I squatty potty that's a good one invent toilet paper how would you make it how would you do that manufacturing process you're perforating the paper I'm an ideas guy

no but that's like I'd walk back to like no this guy's actually making chops in your 1,000 I'd be like are you sick of taking a shit and then walking around with it all day there's got to be a better way and I've got it you just take this piece of paper and you put it between your ass cheeks.

Did everyone just have perpetual swamp ass back then? I think it was worse than that. I think swamp ass. Called it them. That's where mud pie came from. I do squatty potty. I'm going to stand with that one.

Do you remember the bullshit titanium necklaces that every baseball player wore? And they balanced you? 2009 to 2014. The fight necklaces. Yeah, I had about eight of those. I mean, major league players, a ton of them were wearing them. everybody was whoever that guy had to make a killing it just was wearing them it all showed up at once too

yeah in the early part of my takes when we're interviewing baseball players that would be like the first question i would ask me like what was up with those fighting necklaces because like i where they just shipped off to every team like giant boxes i'm sure probably and everybody was like okay let's put these on all together that was sure yeah you probably just send a box of them to a major league clubhouse and like let the guys wear because that's because then they just all the it was a lot of pitchers were wearing them so you'd see them all the time Yeah. And then all the kids started wearing it.

Well, because pitchers are psychos in general. So if you can convince them, like, even if it doesn't work at all, if they think that it works, then it actually does work. Yeah. I want to invent something like that for every pitcher. Like a- I wonder if that company still exists. Like earrings.

Yeah. Clip on earrings. Yeah. Or something you put on your hat, maybe. No, you can't do that. You can't put anything on your hat anymore. I don't think so. Like not even anything like that.

Fight and still going strong. You know what I'm, I'm still thinking about top gun. I want to start a nonprofit where we just raise money to send to underprivileged children to go see Top Gun in the theaters. I bet why underprivileged kids? Kids that can't afford movie tickets, yeah. Just because you want everyone to see it so bad? Yeah.

There's no real impact on society besides the fact that every kid would get to go see this awesome movie. You're trying to get poor children to join the military industrial complex? Yeah, that's kind of militant. There we go. Actually, yeah. I mean, if the government started doing that, I would have some very serious questions. You just want them to go on flight simulator, right? Yeah, I, I want to do it not to recruit them to join the military, but to recruit them to become fans of flight simulation and to start playing the same video games I play.

These are future ghosts of Manhattan watchers here. You look you got me. That shit looks fun as fuck. It looks like fighting has also now been like contracted out by other companies who make similar bullshit to, to you. use their website. Like, they now sell lotions and gels from some company

called Metax. Like, so other bullshit companies have apparently just latched on to the fighting website. And so now they just sell all sorts of wares.

They're selling traffic. Yeah. Bedding and bath is now on the fighting website. Daily care detangling hairbrush. Yeah, so they're just selling,

they're just unabashed like bullshit. They're productors. Yeah. I think I can invent geometry. what that that is a shape how do you plan to monetize that well I forgot about that I always remember when I was like doing geometry

me like I could have fucking invented this Billy why didn't you just say Angie's list like these Greeks just had a fucking oh yeah 100% could have invented Angie's list but like the Greek basically what happened when ancient Greece is that they like had peace for just enough time for them to stop thinking about like food sustenance and they're like oh like everything has a shape we've been doing it

subconsciously but there's these shapes they exist like this and they abide by these rules i think i could have invented rugby yeah you just see a bunch of dudes playing soccer and you're like hey use your hands no you know what's a good one racket ball yeah hitting a ball against the wall yeah back and forth the wheel no you think you could have invented the wheel Billy Maybe the most important invention Of all time besides fire I think the wheel was invented

Simultaneously across the world Like by different people with the same idea Like I think there was a common invention For people to think they invented I don't know about that Much like fire or pyramids Not many people were making pyramids Fire invented or discovered

Discovered I mean But the process to get fire Was math invented or discovered? Discovered. That's a real question. I think that's discovered. I was, I would say discovered. Yeah, actually, geometry was discovered, too.

You're just talking about giving names to it. Yeah. That's a triangle. I would have named them so much more cool. What would you have named a square? Fucking. I don't know why, but Boner just came to my life. That's the show.

All right. week let's explore this what about a rectangle that's a chode well no that's it's longer it depends on what angle you're looking at true sleaze okay all right so a rectangle i don't hate that i don't hate that a sleaze that's actually good yeah i agree circle i don't know why but like an o lu That's good I was actually going to say like Ambus something that starts with an O Yeah

An Olu Okay What about triangle Cheats Cheats How do you spell that I don't even know I think it's C-H-E-E-T-Z

Are we listening to Billy Make-up words right now Yeah Yeah Why you got somewhere to be This is how the pay got paid. I mean

yeah, man. All right, I think Billy would have Let's go. How would you say parallelogram? Sly. That's confusing with the sleaze. Well, it's different. It's a relative.

Yeah, it's relative. Okay. So far we've got Square is not called a boner. The rectangle is a sleaze. Circle is an Olu. And parallelogram is a what was it

Slydy. Slidy. Is it Slidy? Oh, it says slidy other than sidey. Okay. We can move on. No, one more. Pentagon. Pinnogram. Pentegram. Pentagon. Pentegum is the devil thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sick.

I can't believe what he's doing right now. All right. right billy would have invented geometry when you're right you're right uh do you have any more voicemails no that's it that's it okay that's a that's a good one to end it on uh we will see you guys next week back to our regularly scheduled programming next week and again if you have any suggestions actually big tea give me some give me some nashville things to do right now yeah leave those broadway girls alone that's facts um Go to Hattie B's.

Some people are not... I don't like Hattie B's. Why? Franklin Barbecue is good. They have a Franklin in Nashville too? Franklin, Tennessee is like the city right outside of it. Well, it's like half an hour away. I don't know if Franklin Barbecue is in Nashville or if it's in Franklin.

Is it Franklin there? I might... Oh, go to the Johnny Cash Museum and sit and watch his whole recitation of in front of the White House in 1978 of the flag. What's it called? Okay. Do you not like hot chicken or you don't like Hattie Bees? I lied. It's called Martins. Martin's Barbecue. Martin's barbecue. Okay. No, I love hot chicken.

Hattie Bees is like, I feel like that's too much of a tourist destination. See, no, that's not even from Nashville. You can't say that. My uncle lives there. Okay, but like, no, it's the best one. It's the best one, though. Okay. Like people be like, no, if you actually want, like, the real one, go to princes. No, no, no. Hattie Bees is the best one. There was one fried chicken place that I used to go.

What was the name of that hot chicken place that it was like a cinder block shack? And I heard from somebody that it closed down like a year ago. Shit, what was the name of it? It was cinder block. It was one word. It was like plural. It was like Coopers or something like that. Fuck.

I used to go there every time I was in Nashville. Yeah. And everyone I would go with would end up getting real bad, real bad butt diarrhea. and I would just take it to the face. Actually, butt diarrhea? The first time I went there. Mouth diarrhea, different? Yeah, it's definitely different.

The first time I, you have diarrhea at the mouth. The first time I went there. Yours is just better. The first time I went there, I went up to the counter and it was me and my brother and we're like, hey, can we get the, can we get the, can we get the, they said don't get the hot unless you've been here before. My brother and I ordered the medium and the lady looked at us and she goes, you don't want the medium. And we're like, yeah, we do. She was like, tell you what, I'm going to give you the mild. If you want more spice, come back here and I'll add it for you.

And it was very clearly because we were two white kids that walked in there. And she just told us right off the bat. She's like, you are not prepared for this amount of spice. And the mild was hot as shit. Now, every other time I went back there, I got the medium. And the medium was like painfully hot where like you'd be crying by the end of your meal. But the mild even was like hotter than anything. you can get in most like out of all the Nashville hot chicken I've had their mild was hotter

than all of them fuck what was the name of that place it's not there anymore so I guess it doesn't really matter but um give me one more Nashville thing to do big tea um what do you what are you looking to do like y'all are playing golf playing golf going to a concert and then checking out the town um leave them Broadway girls i mean like Like, this sounds shitty to say. Like, I feel like I almost shouldn't say it. But, like, there's not a ton of shit to do in Nashville. Rooftop bar.

Like, it's Broadway, which kind of sucks. Now, I love Nashville. It's my favorite place. If you live there, like, it's a great place to live. But, like, going to Nashville, like, in terms of activities, it's, like, Broadway. And, like... Mine's barbecue, bro. You can go to...

You can go check out the Parthenon. we have a we have a two scale replica of the parthenon that's good that's nice um i might check out you said it's martin's barbecue yep yep unless you want to support the local homie uh i got a dude i got a dude i went to a college with who is a chef there and he makes bomb-ass food but he's like local it's like he's not a known chain okay i'll send you i send you shit yeah sent over oh the place was called bolton spicy chicken and fish I heard that now, this is telling me that it's still open right now. But I heard from somebody that it closed.

But Bolton's spicy chicken, it's amazing. It's really good. If it's still there, I'm going to stop it. That's for sure. All right. Well, that does it for us. We will be back regularly scheduled programming next Tuesday, next Thursday, next Thursday for macrodosing and nanodosing. And go see Top Gun.

Go see Top Gun if you haven't yet. It's incredible. I've seen it twice already. probably going to see you a third time maybe maybe tonight maybe i'm going today i'm going to get today hell yeah awesome all right see you guys next week love you guys