Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Lake Lanier

Episode Date: June 15, 2021

On today's episode of Macrodosing, you'll hear about the most mysterious lake in the United States, Lake Lanier. From the history of the community that once was to the horrifying accidents that have occurred, you won't want to miss a second. Also, Big T's mom calls into the show to express her displeasure with our new intern Madeline??? All this and more on today's show. 5:00 Whitey gets neutered 12:00 Big T's mom calls in 28:00 Lake Lanier talk begins 42:00 Cemeteries and pissing on graves 54:00 Giant Catfish & The Legend of Fish Head 1:05:00 Ghosts 1:20:00 Selling your soul 1:35:00 Tim Tebow 1:45:00 Listener responsesYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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It is June 15th. I don't think you've ever done that at the top of a show. Said the date. Big Cat does that every part of my take. I never really understood why he did it. I think it just feels good to set the table that way. I'm telling you right now, it's Tuesday, June 15th, and you're listening to macro dosing. That's what you're doing right now.

Or you're just getting old. I think you're just getting old. Yeah, it might be that just like resetting. It's for myself, really. It's reminding myself what month it is. You're going to open your agenda later on and mark some shit down that you had to do. Yeah. That's the shitty thing about once you get out of college and like summertime doesn't really

mean anything unless you become a teacher. Like summer's not any different than the rest of the year. So when I was in college and high school, it's like, I know I can walk outside and be like, yep, it's late June. I can feel it in the air and it means something. It's actually cool. Now it's just hot outside and makes our commute sweatier. But it is, in fact, June 15th. And we got Billy back in, you're not in the studio.

You're coming to us from an undisclosed location right now. Is that correct? Yes. I'm in between housing and I'm in New York City and have a much better commute. So I want to come back to the office, but I'm very happy to still be around and to come back to the office as soon as possible. Billy's hiding out from Mark Zuckerberg after last week's episode, and I'm told that your dog had a procedure today, Billy? Yeah, he got castrated, got neutered. It was sad to see those balls go because they're kind of pretty cool, like he had some pretty nice ones.

So he was doing well. He's mad at me that I took his balls But, you know, had to happen Especially for like moving into an apartment Like, you know, you put in your like basically everyone wants to be like Oh, like show us your dog If you're moving in with a dog And then you just see this like 100 pound American bulldog

With a huge set of nuts And like no one wants to rent their apartment He walks into the room backwards Just nuts first This is Whitey, he's cool And then you feel guilty, right? Like I can tell that he probably doesn't give a shit because he's a dog, but you're like, you feel bad because you, you cucked your boy.

Gaines, bro. He's going to lose a lot of his game. Is he there right now? Can we see him? He's sleeping. He just got it this morning. When he's awake, he starts crying because he's still in pain. I've been giving him the pain killer.

It's better if he just sleeps in the other room for right now. So did they give you the opportunity? They probably didn't let you keep the balls, but did they give you the opportunity to fit them out with some nudicles, the fake, the fake balls? I, like, asked that as a joke, and they were like, that's really, they were like, ha-ha. And then I was like, no, but seriously. And they were like, I actually, well, at first I asked if a vasectomy was, like, possible.

Like, not actually awake them, but there's vets to do it, but it's just way too expensive and that point was. What's the purpose behind a vasectomy for you, like, just so that it can still have nuts? just so it can still have the testosterone anabolic component that's why all these dogs they get like hip problems and like ACL tears because they get neutered and they have no like testosterone and muscle quality and then they just you know get injured easier I don't think that's why dogs tear their ACLs they do yeah I know I know dogs do tear their ACLs I don't know if there's a peer-reviewed

study out there that like in a controlled environment compares dogs with testicles to dogs without testicles and how bad their knees get messed up. Especially their hips. Earlier neutered dogs get hip dysplasia, especially the larger breeds. So there is, yes, there is some truth to the fact that like if you neuter your dog super early, it doesn't develop like the skeletal mass doesn't develop in the same way as it would if they had like all their testosterone as they were growing. But I don't know about ACLs.

That's a wild take. Well, think about it. If you have, like, a lot of ACL tears are called from muscle imbalances. Okay. All right. I'm going to let you have this one, Billy. It would be sick, though, if you had, like, different options of testicles to get for your dog, like, the large size. You want the X-Ls?

You want to meeters? Can you put spinners in my dog's nutsack? Why wouldn't they let you have them? I don't understand. I, no, I didn't want them. Like, to keep? That's weird. That's weird to keep a dog in general, but, like, I mean.

Dip him in bronze. Put them on, put them on your fireplace, on your mantises? You don't anything think it's weird that, like, we have pets. Like, nobody, like, I, that's the weirdest shit in the world to me. Like, like, you literally, like, think about it. Because, like, we have animal rights groups and shit like that, right? Like, we care by animals, like, to a certain extent, we care. We eat most of them, but certain ones we really care about.

And, like, if you think about it, like, if you have a dog and it has litter, like, a litter of, not a litter, or what is it called? Litter puppies. Right? It's a litter. Yeah. And then, like, you just basically kidnapped their children and then sell them. Like, it's fucking wild dog.

Think about that shit. Yeah. I mean, for dogs, it's not okay. It's just like, I think it says that people like to be loved by something, and a dog will give you that unconditional love no matter what. So then we like it back. It actually tells me something just about people. If people are more like dogs, then they'll be more love too. But sometimes we're afraid to show that love, right guys?

Yes, dudes. Yeah. But the weirdest shit is that we kidnap their children and we claim that we love them. Like, we literally take their babies. and sell them. Yeah. Well. It's frowned upon

if it's a human, though. Rightfully so, by the way. Yeah. Billy looked like he had something he was going to add to that, but then chickened out. No, I was being like dogs have been, like, dogs were with us shooting in the gym, you know? Like, they were like, they were not.

They were not. They were domesticated like 10,000 years ago. I know, but they were with us, like, fending off lines and shit. Like, they hopped off at bandwagoner, like. Ten thousand years ago? We were fending off lines. Yeah.

Not in every continent. They were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were domesticated here first, weren't they? The wolves in, and, I don't know, I don't know, a region. The region is important. The region is important. Yeah. But the time period was like, like, it was like, 10, it was very recent where we started

domesticating wolves. Yeah, there's some, some dogs in Europe, like Roman dogs were bred to be war dogs. And so the emperors would have, they'd have like mastiffs, actually, or molossers. And so they would go to battle. There was one, I forget who it was. One emperor, I think, of Rome got really injured badly in a battle, and his dog just stood over his body, just like barking at anybody that came near it for hours and hours and basically saved his life because they were so loyal. We just like things that are loyal. I think that's what it all comes down to.

But like, it's not real loyalty, though. Yeah, but it's still cute loyalty. So like if I got six ducks that get genetically imprinted on me and they follow me around everywhere I walk, yeah, it's kind of weird. but it's also at the same time, like, I can't, hashtag I can't even, right? Like, it's cute as far. I think the joke, the Joker has a hashtag I can't even. The Joker had the best quote about that in the dark night. You said, let's choppy up in a hundred pieces and see how hungry, how loyal a hungry dog is.

Yeah. Yeah, I've also heard that like if a human dies in their apartment and their dog still around, the dog will eventually just straight up start to eat them. And they get hungry. Yeah. and then vice versa I'd eat a dog if I'm hungry enough

I'm not gonna lie I've looked at a dog before and just wondered okay if shit goes down what's the most delicious part of that dog gotta be the leg I would say ribs

they got pretty good ribs on them dog ribs probably good yeah and it depends on the breed too right like some dogs like you know you know what it is like actually like the breeds that are like pugs or like the ones

that just have, no, but just have like genetic defects and like terrible lives. You think pugs have terrible lives? They do actually.

They can't breathe. They like literally have sleep apnea, but like the worst. Do they make sleep apnea masks for pugs? Put some breathe right strips on there? Okay, we are an anti-dog eating podcast. I just want to say that in case

there's anyone out there that needs to clear education. I am not. I am not. Aaron should be anti-dog If you're hungry, eat a dog Fuck it I mean a pug burrito

A pug is about burrito size right Like that would last you a couple days That's a big ass burrito Yeah Is that Whitey? Sorry Whitey Not talking about here Shit we

We woke him up My bad I heard y'all talking shit So yeah You can hear Aaron's voice Ariens back here We got Big T Big T is

Representing Tennessee University University of Tennessee today Arium we're going to the college world series how excited are you what are who is UT

and what baseball ah not a fan of baseball it's okay that's what's up though shout out to them boys we saw

we saw Texas play last night I was a little concerned about the hats that Texas was wearing because they were just wearing they ripped off our logo they were wearing the power tea which I didn't realize

it was called the power tea until Kat told me. Yeah, it's bullshit. It's a hilarious name for the letter. It's an awesome name. You guys named a letter. Yeah, well, it's the specific iteration of the letter that we created, but yeah. Yeah, but they were wearing the Power T on their hats. Yeah, they, that sucked. And we actually, the color is close enough to the Tennessee orange, or is it volunteer orange? It's Pantone 151C. But yeah, I think it's whatever you want call it. But we actually sold them another logo to, we had a UT retro logo, and we sold that to the,

them, so they literally just use our logos. Was that like how you got Rick Barnes? You're like, we'll give you the logo, give us your code. It may have been around that same time. It was fairly recently, I think. Yeah. That's hilarious that you guys trademarked a letter. I love it.

But congratulations. Thank you. Good luck. Yeah. I guess I've heard it so much that I've never really thought about the consequences of having your own letter named Power T. You just hear it all the time, though. Like you hear it all the time.

Yeah. I mean, I think North Carolina trademarked Carolina Blue. Yeah. Navy probably trademarked Navy Blue. Maybe. I'm sure. I don't know. We also have Madeline here. Our new intern, Madeline, Madeline won the intern sweepstakes last week. And so she's back. Ron and I nicknamed her Mad Dog 2020, because I feel like every single sports media organization needs to have at least one Mad Dog. Mad Dog is just a cool-ass name for somebody that's got fire takes. I don't know how fire her takes are yet. but I just I like the idea of having a mad dog around it's like you want to have somebody named bubba around we have her mad dog Right you're you're welcome for that do you like the name mad dog I do like it people were commenting and they were like what's up mad dog and I

I was like who and then I was like that shit that's that's that's that's me now so I like it I like the nickname and because you have such an affinity for mac dog 2020 can I be real I've never had bad dog 2020 you have not lived I know I don't I don't know if I should mention this on the show or not you know who's a madeline hater who My mom. What? Yes. Oh, let's go. Who is the most avid? I defended you.

My mom, who is the most avid listener of this show, text me. I'm trying to find it. Wait, I'm, Mrs. Big T. I'm so sorry. I don't even want to read what you. It's so mean, literally out of nowhere. On Friday night, on Friday night at 7 o'clock, my mom texts me and said, y'all picked one of the annoying girls.

I liked the first guy. And I said, and I actually, yelled at her. I was like, we were the ones that were in there talking to him. I know better than you. Like, we... You talk to your mom like that? I'll read you what I said. I said, you definitely know. Was it in all caps? It wasn't in all caps. I said, well, you definitely know better than those of us who were in the room talking to them. And then, uh, I actually said, a little back talk from and then I said something about the first guy. And I said, you were the best one by far. Oh my God. Thank you so much. I'm so sorry, Mrs. Big T. I hope to win back your loyalty.

Yes. And then she, she came back at 930 and said, is, is she? Is she going to be talking on the podcast or just doing stuff? Oh, my God. And I said mostly the latter, but she'll be on the show. And then we didn't talk again until today. So, yeah, my mom's a hater. I'm so sorry. No, you don't be sorry for shit.

She should be sorry. No, she should call into the show. She got a call into the show. We got to settle this Mad Dog 2020 and Mama Beef. I'm so sorry. We got to have you guys debating stuff. You want to call her? Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

I'm a, I'm big in moms. Should we face? I'll make her face you and say this shit. Oh my God. But hi, guys. I'm Madeline. What do we call her Mrs. Tea? Yeah, Mrs.

Call her whatever you want. Is it like cookies? Can I call her Mrs. Big Tea? Does she not like you know? Like the bloody Mary mix. Hey. Hey, we're on the show right now. And I mentioned what you said about Madeline.

So we thought that you should have to say it to her face. Oh. So here you go. Mrs. Big Tea. Hi. Oh my gosh. You guys. you guys look like look like look i'm so sorry i don't i i don't want you to be against me look

we're in this together i i don't i will do whatever it takes to get you back on my side okay i i have to tell you this so um my 18 year old daughter wanted to hear um the interviews with the intern so i i started them from the beginning started playing it and after a few minutes on the first guy she was like oh my god mom this is so boring. Can't we just hear the girl? So fast-worded it to your interview and she listened to her. She's like, oh, yeah. She is so much better. Don't backtrack now. Thank you. Thank you, little, little sister, Big T. What's her name? What's her name? Mary Elizabeth. Mary Elizabeth, thank you so much. I'm Ellie. Oh, Mary Elizabeth. Yeah. So clearly this is a case of why old people don't need to be listening to cool podcast because we don't know what we're talking about. You're okay. You're totally okay.

Mrs. T, hi. I'm PFT. I have a question for you because we like Madeline's energy when she came in here, but we are very sensitive to, you know, we want to deliver a product that our audience is going to enjoy. So what was it about Madeline that you specifically didn't like? Because we want to make sure we can minimize that. Give me working points.

Well, if I have to be so honest. You do. I am. When you guys cuss, It doesn't bother me, but I'm going to sound sexist, but You don't have one girl's cussing. It just really was all putting. Mrs. Big T, I'm going to, I'm going to, my mom agreed with you.

She said that when I cussed, she got very nervous. That was my nervous habit. I was very nervous for the interview, so I did cuss. I will cuss less. That is for you and my own mother. We'll bleep her out. We'll bleep her out when she cusses. Yeah.

You're allowed to say, was it? ass damn and hell those are all nothing more than generic mild profanity yeah like the ones you can say on the radio yeah yeah uh one last last question fcc approved are you are you worried about your son ever getting arrested for murder you know what i'm not worried in the least because he's very very scared about that's very confident you know and i i don't know why i can't imagine why because he is a a letter to the law follower. He sure is. Are you? I don't know.

He sure is. Well, yeah, we'll make sure that he doesn't get arrested for something that he doesn't do unless it's to get one of us off. All right. Well, it was lovely to meet you and we'll work hard on Madeline's presentableness on her swearing. My marketability. Yeah. You know what it was? It was because the first guy was just so even keel.

And then Madeline came on. She was all spunky. And so I think it was the two contrasting things. Gotcha. Okay. And then I won't swear anymore. And then one last question. What's the most embarrassing story about Big Tea that you can tell us?

Oh. You know, he doesn't get himself into that many predicaments. Well, you know, the funny thing about Connor is growing up, of course, he was this avid avid fork fan. So he kind of flew with whatever team was doing good at the time. So we have pictures of him in Georgia Bulldog attire. No, that's fake news. No, that's fake news. That was, wow.

Let her finish. Please do. Please send them over. And then there we've got Michigan. What's the Michigan team that's blue and gold? Michigan. This is fake news. That's not fake news.

No, it's not fake news. but the way, no, the Georgia thing, hang up, we'll talk to you. Don't, no, I'm not sure. The Georgia thing, the Georgia saying, was my kindergarten teacher who was like the world's biggest UGA fan and had her whole class, like, decked out in Georgia shit. But the picture I have is when you're older and you're not in kindergarten. There's not a picture of me older than five years old. Not buying it.

Avery, what's her email? I can text it to you right now. Can you try to email it to macrodosing pod? at Gmail because I have a feeling that if you send it to Connor, he's not going to let it see the light of day. It's, uh, macrodose. No, it's macrodosing at barcelosing at barstlesports.com. Barstallsports.com.

Macrodozing at barstle sports. Yeah, send those over. I'd like to take a look at those. Yeah. And because it's funny because my mom found this picture the other day. And I was like, oh, wow, I didn't really. Because it was when you were into those fighting necklaces. You remember when you had to have one.

of those? Yeah, when I was like 10 years old. The ones with the energy? Yeah, you weren't a Georgia Bulldogs, sir. That's untrue. Okay. I'm even going it right now to the F&T. Either you're a bandwagon fan or you're calling your mother a liar.

I don't think it's a lighter. If I was a bandwagon fan, would I be a Tennessee fan? That seems like a... Hey, brother, I'm not making the rules there. It's your mama asking you. No, yeah, she's fake news. Also, she was wrong. That's not a fighting necklace.

that's like a like a shark tooth type deal that was incorrect also so that throws off the timeline so yeah she literally just made shit up wait what's a fighting necklace there were these necklaces oh the energy ones uh-huh yeah the balance are you the balance so like everybody that played baseball when you're 10 or 11 like wanted one of those definitely had seen those so arian we love we love talking about all these weird like junk science things that take place in and around sports the fight necklace might be my favorite one because it seemed like one postseason in baseball some some like quack cliffly was big on them yeah some quack sold a couple dozen of these necklaces and all of a sudden every pitcher was wearing all the time no idea where they came from nobody really wears them anymore but was there

anything like that in football where it was like i know i mentioned the breathe right strips earlier but those actually help right like open up the nasal passages i have put them on i i don't see how they help But I also don't have, like, I guess it's like sinus problems or nasal problem. I don't have those. And it was like, it helps you breathe. I never really had trouble breathing. I didn't see the benefits of them. I guess, no, everything in football is pretty applicable.

Like copper fit. It's a Brett Farf thing where he's like, put on this copper bracelet. No one can knock you over. That's my favorite is the bracelet that gives you balance. Those were the stupid. these shit's in the world. Neckleses are. I think they're the same thing. They had like magnetic.

It's the same science. It's the best. Like the commercials at the used to show would be some dude at a mall kiosk and he put a bracelet on some old lady and then grab her and try to push her over and he couldn't push her over. She was wearing this bracelet. Who tried to, I think I was like in college or something like that. Some dude was trying to give me like one of those balanced power strips or power strips is what it was.

And like he's like, you're just. stronger with it on. I'm like, bro, no. He's like, I swear. So he's like, he's like, hold your hands like this. Like, hell man, he's like this. And he pulls it apart. He says, see, and I put this on. And he like, and then he's like, barely tugs. I'm like, dog, you're not, you're not pulling there because this is shit. You know, this is shit. Damn. Well, I'm wearing a bracelet right now, but this is, this is totally different. This is just a Washington Capitol's bracelet where one end of it has a white ball. And that was used, uh, it was made using water from Mount Everest. And then a

black ball at the other end and that was water that was harvested over the mariana trench so it's the highest and the lowest points in the world that's the that's the loci yeah the loci yeah the loci bracelet is that what it is yeah yeah i know i know the dude that makes those that's my dude stephen really does do they do they do they do anything no it's not it's supposed to be like representing the highs and lows of life yeah it represents yeah it represents highs and low of life it's like they they have all kinds they have like different colors and they have like they do all kind of different like collaborations i used to i used to wear them like every day in high school it's like water from the highest point in the world and then mud from i i thought it was like mud from the dead sea

to be like the highest in those points yeah it's like i believe it's the dead sea okay yeah that's cool if you if you like cut it open apparently the the black one hash actually has it's got mud that comes out like a little couple grains i heard something interesting about what's up billy then And there was blood in the little Nazek shoes. It's like the same thing. Like, is there actually? Where are we saying? Sure.

It might be a little bit of fib in there for sure. Yeah. They just mixed in a tiny, but he probably put like one drop of blood. Or it wasn't even his blood, was it? It was just like, that was a wild day online where everyone pretended to get mad about shoes.

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Well, Lake Lanier is like that, except on steroids. It's got tons of things that have happened in the area, even before it was a lake, but continuing on. in the last hundred or so years since it's become a lake. And it's some crazy shit that goes down there. Some very crazy stuff. So how close, Big T, how close is Lake Lanier to where you grew up? So from where I grew up probably an hour, but my mom, who we've already talked to on this show, she and her family are all from Gainesville, Georgia, which is a city like on the lake.

So it was never like a destination for you guys. No. So I've never, I've been like around it. Like I've been to Gainesville and coming. Georgia a bunch but never like gone to the lake to go like out on a boat or anything. Yeah, the name of the town is called coming. Yeah. And it's spelled C-U-M-M-I-N-G. It is. I remember I drove past it one time. There was an exit to coming. And it's a very funny, it's a very funny name for a town. Yep. And you go out and you take the exit and you're like,

hey, I'm getting off. Get it? You nailed it. Get it? What's the town motto in coming? It's a great question. It's Vinny, Vinny, Vinny, Vinny. I see what you did there. Well, all you Latin speakers out there will understand that one. But yeah, I have been around it. I know that there are a shitload of lakes just in general in Georgia. Like every football coach lives on a lake in Georgia. Oh, that's where they spend. Yeah, up in the North Georgia Mountains, that's a lake, like Rabin or something.

All the like Sabo, like Sabo, all the rich football coaches have houses up in the North Georgia moment. Bruce Ariens. That's where he met Bruce Ariens one time is he played a golf tournament. And every golf course around there kind of looks a little bit like Augusta. And we stopped by his house. He had been out in the sun drinking beer all day, went down into his basement and did an interview right on that lake. And he was like, yeah, Ben Rathlisberger lives over there. Nick Saven lives here.

It's just, I don't know, it's a big part of Georgia culture, I guess. Lake Burton. Lake Burton. Okay. And so the water that's in Lake Lanier is from the Chattahoochee River. The Chattahoochee River, as made famous by Alan Jackson in his early. 90s country smash hit way down yonder on the Chattahoochee fantastic song great song and i think we're going to try to record we'll just pump it in right here way down way down yonder on the

chattahoochee the lake is bloody in the wall or spooky. You can cut out that part where I fucked up. No, leave that part in it. No, no, I'm, no, there's too much slander of big tea in this show. We're not leaving that in. Boom. That's where it's going to go.

So Lake Lanier, it is a very, very spooky place, incredibly spooky. Aaron, had you ever heard of it before today's show? Yeah, my homeboy from Atlanta. And we was talking about it. Actually, recently he came down to. visit. And he was telling me about, like, yo, don't ever swim at Lake and Lair. I'm like, I won't, but why? I don't fuck with water. But he's telling me why. And then doing research for the show, I found out some super interesting shit about it. But no, so before the show, like, not really,

my homeboy had mentioned it, but there was never anything that, like, I had crossed my radar before. It's generally known. I think Atlanta knows. Everyone who's from Atlanta knows of Lake Lanier. is like the place that you don't want to go swimming. It's like, well, Billy, you'll go swimming in anything. Billy swims in the reservoir. Yeah, I mean, the water supply. It's a pretty decent body of water. Supplies a lot of Metro Atlanta with drinking water.

So I found out about through TikTok. It was trending. Yeah. When was it trending? It was like trending like the other, like I saw it about two weeks ago on TikTok. Okay. I was swimming Lake in the year. And it was like all these crazy horror stories about Lake Lanier.

Yeah. If we're just ranking, let's say one's got to go. Rivers, lakes, oceans, swimming pools. Oceans. Swimming pools. No. Swimming pools are, you would regret getting rid of swimming pools. I mean, I don't fuck with the ocean, but we need it.

Yeah. I would say get rid of rivers. I'm on your. I'd say fuck a river. You need rivers. We don't need river. Rivers got like fresh water. Like I'm cool with the lakes being out of here.

Oh wait. Save the rivers, course, light. Yeah, probably. See, as far as recreation goes, I don't have a lot of time for rivers. You can float a river, which is a lot of fun. I did that down in Texas a bunch, and that's a great way to spend a day. So I love that. But ultimately, there's not much that you can do in a river that you can't do in a lake.

Fish? You can fish in a lake. Well, rivers have better fish. Do that? Is that true? Yeah, because cold water, you get, like, some of the nicer fish, more rivers. You can't, I don't know if you can fly fish on the lake. Yeah, probably not.

I've never seen somebody, like, wading out into a lake wearing that Columbia performance gear and just casting in that, or casting a line. But I don't know. I still feel like rivers, they don't really do that much for me as a human being, right? Okay, maybe they do. in terms of electricity and all that shit. I'm just talking about like having a good time. I guess unless you're like a kayaker. Yeah, I'm not.

Definitely not a kayaker. But this river, the Chattahoochee, they needed to dam it up and they needed to do all sorts of shit to it to provide, I guess, electricity and drinking water to Atlanta. And back in, I'm making sure I get my dates right here. I think it was 1940s, right? It was

1940. 1946, there was the Rivers and Harbors Act, which was one of these post-World War II what's like public works acts where they just were trying to like build all the

highways and like create infrastructure in the United States. So that was sort of the genesis of the damning and creation of the reservoir. So tell you what, let's back up a little bit here because part of the mystique of Lake Lanier is the history of the land that it's on. So if we want to take it back a couple hundred years, even further than that, maybe like

300 or 400 years, it was land that was used by Native Americans. And it was actually one of the focal points, one of the beginning points of the infamous Trail of Tears where the U.S. government made every Native American, or a lot of them, pack up their shit. And they're like, hey, we've got a really cool place called Oklahoma. You love it. Let's just walk there. And so this part of Georgia, North Georgia was one of the beginning points for that trail of tears, where the land was just straight up taken, being like, we've already got you sort out with another place. You'll love it. So they expelled all the Native Americans from that land in order to have the, just the U.S.

government took it over so they could use it for development for their own purposes. So that's like, that's the start of, of where this story will begin. And then in the 1900s, it was, it was known as Forsyth County. And in 1912, it was a largely African-American population that lived there until on September 9th, there was an 18-year-old white woman who was named May Crow, who was raped and murdered close to Browns bridge on the banks of the Chattahoochee in Oscarville, Georgia. And they pinned the crimes on four young black people that lived nearby. And they were, essentially, they were all lynched. There was a mob that went out and killed all of them. And then shortly thereafter, the town

basically said, we want to get all the black people out of this town, in largely pointing at that crime that had occurred and it was it was it was pretty ugly they they basically through violence or through passing laws evicted every single black person that lived in that town got them off the land it's called a sundown town right so maybe somebody can explain what a sundown town is because i've heard the term use i think i know it is but i'm probably going to screw it up so Aaron, do you know what that is? My bad, I'm muted. No, I'm unsure of the terminology until these, until I was researching this stuff.

So just like a basic definition is sundown towns are all white municipalities or neighborhoods in the United States that practice a form of racial segregation by excluding non-whites via some combination of discriminatory local laws, intimidation, or violence. it's it's it's riddled throughout like our throughout our history so like when when colleagues suggested this in the uh in the in the group chat i had no clue this was the road that it was going to go down and and why it's it's uh it was so intriguing but um now like that shit is uh a wild start to something that is like popping up and trending now like because of like people drowning and stuff like that it's like kind of like folk to like all It's kind of funny, don't go there, don't swim there because it's, you know, scared. But then you, like, research the history and it's like, oh, here we go again. Yeah. So sundown towns are the name comes from black people were not welcome there after sundown because of KKK attacks.

Got it. Okay. So like a curfew for some. Yeah. Yeah. So the town was taken over. People were evicted. And then in 1948, the government bought a hundred acre farm from a river farm from a river

Ferry, a river ferry operator who is named Henry Shadburn because they want to start that water project. Again, they wanted to supply Atlanta with power, water, hydroelectricity, and flood control. So in 1950, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers started breaking ground and they made the Buford Dam on the Chattahoochee River, which would then go on to be completed in 1956. What's up with the name Buford? because I see that name pop up all the time. Was there like an original Buford that all this shit's named after?

Or is it just like, there are many Bufords that exist in the rural South? Are you asking me? Yeah, or anyone? I think, yeah, I don't know. But Buford is, there's Buford Highway in Atlanta, there's Buford, Georgia, there's all sorts of stuff. I just always wonder if it's one Buford. I think it's just like a place in England that just like all the, you know, people who founded the towns just named it after. all of the immigrants from there.

It's kind of like York or something. Okay. I don't know. I feel like there might be some history behind the name, Buford. I'll have to look that up and see what I find. But what they did was they, the U.S. government bought 50,000 acres of farmland, and they displaced anywhere between 250 and 700 families. So that's up to, it's up to debate right now.

Some of the families, it wasn't just straight up imminent domain where they, would pay for the land, it was, uh, under some circumstances, the families would get together and be like, no, our families have lived here for a hundred years. We don't want to sell. This is where everything that I know is. This is where my job is. This is where I grew up. This is my parents grew up. Don't want to leave my town. Uh, and the government in certain circumstances actually arrested the people that didn't want to leave. And they just said, no, we're taking all your shit. That's it. You can't, you can't complain about it. And then they started filling it up with 600 billion. gallons of water. And it wasn't just, it wasn't like they just moved the people, move their

houses. It was, it was actually just like straight up a town that they just started pouring water into. So we're talking churches, homes. There was a racetrack down there too. I don't know what kind of cars they were racing, but there was like a cement racetrack. Just a bunch of stuff, like a legitimate town and suburb was just filled up with water. And it's still down there at the bottom of Lake Lanier to this day, where if you go scoop diving, it's, like, really difficult to do because they're just full buildings underwater. It's like Atlantis. It's what we think Atlantis is. A big part of it, too, was that they, after the, the public lynching of those two boys, like, there was, like, declared martial law because they didn't want black folk in a

town and so they literally started like evicting folks and kicking them out and running them out and burning the buildings down uh setting fire at their houses shit like that um so some eerie shit yeah there was there was a group of men called the night riders who were the small group who did most of the atrocities and pushing out these people and they're attributed to being like one of the ghost of the night riders runs at night, you know, and they, like, are one of the supposed evil forces around the lake to this day. So night riders, that sucks that it was a bad group of dudes that took the name Nightwriters, because that nickname just kicks ass.

I think in jet, I think there's been a couple groups of night riders throughout history, but this was what they were doing. David Hasseloff, right? Yeah. Was he Night Rider? Was that the car, the car that talked? Yeah, I think so. I think that was Hasselhoff.

I just remember Buster Rhimes sampled that show. He sampled the do-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Buster Rhymes, by the way, jacked up. Billy, I need you to tell me what kind of steroids he's on. The same stuff that Dr. Dre was on. He's big. He's big.

He's like, yeah, him and Slice Stallone just got, they got bigger after They turned 40 and never, never turned back. Actually, Buster Rhymes came to a party that we threw a couple years ago down in Atlantic City. And he showed up and he sang two songs. And he was like, fuck this, I'm done and just walked off the stage. He actually came out about, I think it was on, was it drink champs? I forget, I forget, he was on like a podcast or something, interview or something. Oh, maybe Ebro, I don't know, Gears.

Or he was talking about how, like, because like, he was like hella big, hella swole. but after a while like it started like he started just getting big like he's fat right and uh i think he like he almost died i think he maybe maybe had like a heartache or a stroke or something like that or where his his his kid was like like crying to him and convinced him like yo you need to stop doing what you're like we're about to lose you and that it was just like big emotional thing it was pretty dope seeing somebody that's like that you know he's a legend in our in our community so it's like it's dope hearing him had that moment with his son was like yo you change you change your eating happens, bro. Yeah. That's good. I hope he's doing okay. Buster Rhymes is a legend.

And so back to the lake real quick. So 600 billion gallons of water, and we got to mention it wasn't just like families. It wasn't just houses, churches, things like that. There were 20 cemeteries that were there. They just flooded. And they said, if you want to move your dead relatives, you better hop to and get them out of the ground because we're going to flood this no matter or what. And so some families were able to relocate their deceased relatives. A lot weren't, though, because, like, I don't know about you guys, but most people don't really have, like, relocating corpse money laying around. Like, that's not rainy day shit. No one really plans for that. And if you buy a plot in a cemetery, it's kind of fucked up, honestly. Like, imagine you spent,

I don't know what it costs to get a burial plot, I don't know, $1,000, $2,000. Imagine you drop a thousand dollars to prepare for your own death and then a hundred years later they're like nah uh water's going to live here so we're going to need you we're going to need you to pack your bags did you pay rent on a plot or do you buy it no you can't pay with paying rent would be the most brutal shit i don't put it past this who would be paying the rent you're dead you're still in debt you've been debt for 50 years interest rates go up yeah like oh but do you don't have rent money you're getting exhumed sorry you're fucking your your your your your your your relatives have to have to take on your accruing resting debt that shit I haven't thought about yeah I mean cemeteries are just weird in general where it's just a bunch of dead bodies and you you have to pay somebody money to be dead on their property it's really strange it's really weird that's why I'm team jettisoned my body into outer space I had I noticed one who has a friend, and I won't say who, but she has a friend that doesn't fuck with this guy,

a very well-known guy that is now dead, and she goes and peas on his grave, like, all the time. Weird as fuck, but she doesn't. So she hated him while he was alive, and now she hates him the same amount. Yep, and so she goes and peas on his grave. Dude, that's healthy. Pretty regularly. That's what? Like, if I said his name, you'd know who it was.

Like, it's wild as shit. That's healthy to me because you can pay money for a therapist to try to, like, get over what your issue, what your anger issues were in this one relationship. Or you can go piss on their grave and get your emotions out that way. And that's a better solution to you? No, I'm saying therapy is great. But I'm also saying, like, it's a good thing to have an outlet to a healthy way to express your frustration. That's not healthy. We don't know what this guy did.

Therapy is $200 an hour. Pissing on a grave is free. saying pissing on a grave is healthy. Yes. That's what I'm saying. What's not healthy? Oh. Who's it hurting?

If someone was pissing on my grave, I'd be upset if I knew about it. You'd also be dead. Why? What? Hold on, hold on. You think, you think Big T, let's say we're talking to Ghost Big T now, right? Uh-huh. Like, you think in your ghost brain that you have this, how tall are you six foot by six-foot plot that should never be touched by

Any kind of element? I halfway respect making someone angry enough that they would piss on your grave. But also, I mean, that's just, that's just disrespectful. Spin zone, she's doing it because he liked it during life. And she's just like giving a little action to be on the grave. We should all be so lucky. Like, R. Kelly's plot is going to have to have a sophisticated drainage system put in place. There's going to be a line.

they're just going to put a bar there's going to be like a bar next to they're just going to take all the people put like a trough outside of it yeah I mean for the people doing it for him and for the people doing it because they hate them it's going to be a lot of it that's probably

it'll be the most pissed on grave in the history of the world it's got to be up there that's for sure yeah therapy is expensive but pissing on a grave is free I like that it is and okay peeing on a grain you don't want to piss off miss big tea I'm gonna yeah peeing on a grain yeah good caller

Oh, that's right. I don't want to ask you who it was, but did the dude do something in his life that merits the piss? I would say, yeah. Okay. Jeffrey Epstein. Well, then sure. Sure, piss on it.

Piss on it all you want. It's fucking hilarious, though. But what's more disrespectful? Having one person come every month and pee on you? Or having the government just dump 600 billion gallons of water on top of you. Fair point. And everyone will forget that you've ever existed.

Good point. So that's where it starts to get a little bit spooky. This land that had been twice stolen and now filled with cemeteries, dead people, and a ghost town, is now, it's now become a lake. And it's the biggest lake in Georgia. And people go there to do lake things. Obviously, like if you've ever been to a lake in the summertime in the south, there's a shitload of jet skiing that goes down, boating. Just basically anything that you can do with a beer in your hand on the water is fun and people do it on this lake and it's become a tourist destination.

People have a good time going there. Now, where it starts to get weird is this lake has been notorious for having a shitload of accidents, unexplained phenomena at a much higher rate than other lakes in Georgia. So since 1994, 200 people have died there. seems like a lot. That seems like a lot of people. That's one every like five weeks. And that's the ones they know of. Right. Oh yeah. There's also like disappearance. Yeah. All the time. So one a week ago. Really? Yeah. So 200 people since 1994, 500 people total that they know about. And there's a lake that's pretty close by called Lake Alituna. I think it's 40 miles away. That's right where I'm from. Okay. So did you used to go to Alituna? A few times. Not like, you know, didn't have

a boat or anything so like that's the safe lake that was a good choice because it's the same size i don't know if it's the same size it gets the same number of visitors and only one third of the deaths at lake alatuna so yeah i've done i looked into um regarding like the it's not at like there is a reason for all of this that we can get to after talking about the haunting but it's a very precarious predicament that basically there's some people go missing and then they go look for the body of the missing person

and they find other bodies that haven't been found before. So they find bodies that were missing from before and they can't even find the body that just went missing. So it's a again, it's a notorious lake. There's just a shitload of people that end up

getting hurt or injured there and a lot of people that die. You said once every five weeks? Yeah, it was one every five or six weeks, 200 since 1999. Imagine going to anything where once every five weeks somebody dies there. Like, what vacation spot has that same clip? There's a diver that dives in Lake Lanier. He's an experienced diver in Lake Lanier.

And he had a quote that said, you reach out into the dark and you feel an arm or a leg and it doesn't move. That's creepy. Yeah. I think that's an understatement. There's a shitload of GoPro videos of divers that go scuba diving underneath there just to show you what it looks like. It's super murky.

You can hardly see anything, but once they get down maybe a couple dozen feet, depending on what part of the lake that they're in, you actually can see houses. You can see trees that used to exist in this town. There was a big drought in Georgia like five years ago, and you could see the racetrack you mentioned earlier. Like you could see some of the seating from the racetrack.

And like, there's a forest down there. Like they said bodies will get just like tangled up the trees and they just sit there and they never get found. So this place, Lake Lanier, it was named. It's actually, the full name is Lake Sydney Lanier, I believe. It's named after a guy named Sydney. He was a Confederate soldier and a poet. He wrote such smash hits as the boys King Arthur, the boys Mabinogian, the Boys purse. He just wrote a lot of stuff for the boys. And he wrote, this is actually pretty funny. He wrote two travelogs. One was about Florida and the other was called Sketches of India, even though he never, he never visited India, but he wrote

about India as like a travel guide for people. And he was also known as writing poetry using the Cracker and Negro dialects of the day, is what they were called, about poor white and black farmers in the Reconstruction South. So he's like Maclemore. He was like the Maclemore of Northeast Georgia. And he's also a Confederate. What's up? The Confederate. Yeah. Yep, was the first thing he said. Yeah. Yeah, named after a Confederate soldier. And yeah, so you want to talk about some of the specific instances, the weird happenings there?

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Alligators, the farthest, there was one spot of the last week, but there's rumors that there's huge alligators in there that evidence for. You want to talk about the catfish a little bit? Yeah. So they say that the bodies get eaten by these VW bug beetle-sized catfish. And that's where the bodies are going. And they live on the bottom of the lake. And basically, you know, the reason they can't find all these bodies is that they're being eaten by these gigantic catfish.

So there's a picture right here. Avery just sent in the group chat. Can we put this up on the YouTube? stream? Yep, that is terrified. This is a catfish being held up by two dudes, and this thing is, I would guess, 400 pounds, 500, I don't know. Nah, it's about 250, though. That thing could easily eat a small child.

It could definitely eat a small child. It turns out, well, this is like a legend. I don't know if it's true. I choose to believe that it's true. But there was a truck that was carrying a bunch of live chickens. So you've all been behind like the poultry trucks on the highway. They're maybe the worst smelling car. And the live chicken truck drove off the Thompson Bridge in the 1980s, sank to the bottom.

Divers got sent in to examine the wreckage. And they found catfish the size of 12-year-old boys gathered around the sunken truck engaged in a ravenous feeding frenzy, swallowing the chickens whole and that to me just seems like hell on earth just like chickens just getting gobbled up like their what's that video game was it Kirby that just eats everything or Mr. Bucket Mr. Bucket just swallowing these fucking chickens that that's pretty creepy and there are a bunch of fishermen that have talked about like hooking the big fish and then they can't get the fish into their boat because they weigh too much.

So it's allegedly filled with gigantic catfish. I don't know. At some point, I feel like big fish are cool until they reach a certain level and they become scary. At what point does a fish become scary? I would say 100 pounds. In a lake, you can't have big fish in a lake. Like an ocean, you sort of like expect it.

Like there's a party that would be like a shark could come and get me. But like in a lake, That's supposed to be like, chill waters. Mm-hmm. There's gigantic fish in a lake. No. No. Water's not for humans, bro.

Like, I don't fuck with the West. That's why you don't fuck a water. It's why you don't fuck with water, bro. Stay out of the water. There's also a legend of fishhead. Did you guys read about the legend of fishhead? Uh-uh. All right.

So there was this lady. She was pregnant, and she was going for a walk along the bank. So let me pull up exactly what date this was. She was just going for a dip in the water She was, I think, knee deep And she felt something wrapped around her legs Pulled her into the water She tried, she struggled to get back to the land

The whatever it was underneath the water Pulled her in to the lake And she got in there She was submerged She was fighting like hell She looks at the thing that's brought her in And it's a creepy looking fish with human eyes Like human looking eyes

She's immediately taken back by. She thinks she's going to die. And she's trying to swim her way out, trying to swim her way out. She eventually makes her way out. But it was such a traumatic experience for her that she ended up going into labor prematurely. And so they take her to the hospital. This was actually, it was on the shore of six mile creek, which is right where it empties into the lake. And so after just experiencing this traumatic experience,

with the fish, with the small beady human eyes, she was taking the hospital as she went into labor. And she gave birth to a child that they called fishhead. They called him fishhead because he never grew hair, he was totally smooth, didn't really have any sort of facial expressions, just like a slit for a mouth. And he had fish like eyes. And he got made fun of so he didn't like to go to school he would just go play along the banks of six mile creek and uh eventually just kind of he became the steve irwin of lake lanier where he felt more comfortable around animals than he did around humans and so he wouldn't go to school and when fishhead's mother died uh he just took up living in the woods he just said peace out

i'm just going to i'm going to become one with the lake and so a couple times people tried to go capture fish head because he was like the local you know he was the local locknest monster the local bigfoot so like you know the boys in in Atlanta would get drunk and be like hey you want to go out catch fish head and apparently a couple people that went on these trips never came back uh there was one boating expedition that had claw marks on the side of the boat that's all they ever found um i choose to believe that fish head exists i would like to like to think that maybe, I don't know, I'm not a big fan of the name fish head. It seems a little basic. Like when they try to name Boat's Booty McBoat face or whatever, like if there's a kid

with a head that looks like a fish, get a little bit more creative and don't just skip to calling them fish head. That seems kind of lazy. What would you go with? I don't know. I don't know. It's hard. Yeah. Well, you put me on a spot. Like, Aqua dude. I mean, the people who came up with Fishhead were on the spot. Fishhead? No, they didn't. They had time to think. What's that? Frog boy You're frog boy Billy Definitely frog boy

Actually Billy Did you look up Pictures of this guy Billy? Yeah They said that he looked Like a frog

Or a catfish Yeah Do those things A frog or a catfish It kind of look similar Big Big mouth Are there any pictures

Of fish head That we can see I don't think so I'm all in I love these cryptids like the maybe fake maybe real animal human combinations remember that's basically how the national inquirers survived in 1980s and 1990s right bat boy yeah dude that was so creepy i used to have nightmares about bat boy is bat boy still around i don't know maybe he's grown up

i miss bat boy i missed the uh the elephant man yeah uh the i was bigfoot's love slum that was hilarious I think I have a whole book of the National Inquirer articles The best hits Yeah I need to find it My parents hit it from me Because it was giving me nightmares

Yeah that's that's just What they used to always do Whenever they need a story They just had a button The Bat Boy button in the office They just smashed that boom All right we just sold another 5 million copies Great job guys

So that's the story of Fishhead I choose to believe that Fishhead is real I think I don't Fishhead is real until proven otherwise, as far as I'm concerned. What do you think about Lady of the Lake? The Lady of the Lake, I also think is real. You want to walk us through Lady of the Lake? Yeah.

So Lady of the Lake is in 1958, two women, Delia Parker Young and Susie Roberts. They had gone to a gas station and not paid for it. So they were speeding away and they were trying to get to Dawsonville, Georgia. Shout out Bill Elliott. and they're going way too fast and they cross this bridge on Lake Lanier, careen off of it. Only thing they ever found was the skid marks on the bridge. Never found the car, nothing.

Then about two years later, there was a fisherman who was under the bridge and there was a body that was missing its hands. I think feet also was all sorts of messed up and it had floated to the surface. And they, was it ever confirmed that it was, but it like had to be? It was confirmed that it was Delia. Okay. So they couldn't at the time, but eventually they did confirm that it was one of the women. They did.

They eventually sent down, there was a dive team that found the car. And they found the person that she was in the car with. Right. And they found identifying like their IDs. I don't know if it was a credit card or whatever. There were documents in the car that identified the driver and also identified. the lady delia you said yeah yeah so delia when when the car hit the water or maybe after it settled at the bottom for whatever reason dillia escaped the seatbelt got knocked out of the car don't know what

happened but the driver i think stayed in because she was buckled in so her body was there dilias wasn't yes that's susie susie yeah and so we're redoing the bridge they found the body like like like what was it 10 years later or 30 yeah wow and she was like still in the seat. Yeah, it was like 1990. And so people since have said that they've seen a ghost in the lake that's wearing a blue dress and doesn't have hands. And that is, and also, y'all mentioned earlier that people have described feeling like some sort of force in the lake that pulls you down. People think that is the lady of the lake also. So, But also the spirits of the people who were in the graveyard before it got flooded.

Right. Yeah. Now, there have been a lot of people, like, it's documented that people go swimming in this lake all the time. And they feel things underneath the water and they feel like they're being dragged underneath the water or out towards the center of the lake. And so one of the explanations for this is the lady with no hands. And yeah, the legend is like, if you see her. and you keep driving, then she's going to throw your car or throw you into the lake.

If you don't pull over, because she's looking for her hands. And if you stop and try to help her, then she'll disappear and you can go about your way. But people have heard moaning and just like really strange sounds from around this location. So if you see a woman with no hands on Lake Lanier, just pull over. She's probably not going to do anything to you. But if you keep going, you're fucked. She's going to make you drown. She's going to toss your car off the beach.

bridge. It's pretty hilarious that she's like walking around looking for her hands though. All these years later. Yeah. What are you going to do? And actually that brings up a good point. How can she drag you into the water if she doesn't have hands? This is a super natural being. This is the old. She got to be pretty good with her feet by now. It's been years, right? Yeah. Yeah. She's had to make do. But yeah, I think Billy's right. We might have found the one loophole. Like when the guy that originally sat down and made this up, he's like, fuck, I probably should have given her at least one hand. At least one hand. A thumb. One thumb. I don't know. I don't know about the whole ghost business. I generally don't

believe in ghosts. But too many people have said that they felt something incredibly similar in Lakelander. And it's probably just some, you know, natural force of the lake, whatever it is. But too many people have said they feel a force dragging them down into the lake for one for me to ever go. I mean, if you go in that lake, you're crazy. but also for that to not be, you know, something. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's spooky shit for sure. Reminds me, have you ever heard the story of La Yarona? No.

No. La Yadona. It's like a Latin, Latin Mexican. I grew up around Mexicans. It's like a little fable. So, like, what happened was I grew up behind the ditch. And so that's why I told a story to, like, kids that used to play on the ditch. Ditches are like, you all know what the ditches?

Yeah. Yeah. Right. So I grew up right behind one. We used to catch tab holes on her. You the fuck with us back in the day, really. So, like, the fable goes, there's a, there's a, there's a woman that, you know, she married some, like, rich guy and, and they had kids, and she caught him fucking around.

She, uh, ends up drowning the kids in a bitter rage. She drowned them and, like, immediately regretted it. And so she drowned herself. Um, and then so she walks the banks of the ditch, uh, she, because, Like, you know, have you ever seen Coco? You know how they have the afterlife? Like, that whole thing. So, like, she's, like, stuck in purgatory.

She's like, she's stuck in purgator until she finds her kids. So she's walking, she walks to dishes at night looking for her kids. And you can hear her. Wow. Yeah. Any of those. It made me not fuck with dishes at night when I was a kid. Yeah.

Any story about, like, a dead person that just wanders around slowly, that's the easiest way to get me scared. Just like someone, it's in no hurry to get anywhere, just moving around, making strange noises. That that shit scares me quite a bit. You know what? You know what is the closing deal on why I don't believe in ghosts? It's because it's like, I started thinking about it, like for real. Like, if

you're a ghost, like why do you only, or your business hours only at night, right? And then, like, why are you always so spooky and why are you so bitter? Like, why are you mad and niggas is alive? Like, what is your deal? Like, all you want to do is fuck with a live

people. Like, go, there's no, there's no, there's no activities like you just your existence is to fuck with people that are living like it's just silly there's no ghost wars you're not fighting each other you don't go to ghost school yeah ghost bars like if i was if i was to play devil's advocate and i don't believe in ghosts but i mean like most ghost stories are people who were like their lives were cut premature right and so like that would be their gripe i would assume well they have unfinished business that's usually what a ghost story comes down to somebody who has been wronged that hasn't had uh the person who was responsible for them becoming a ghost has not had to atone for for their evils my favorite i read this whole thing

about how most haunted houses uh they like did tests on them and a lot of them had carbon monoxide leaks or some sort of like radon high radon levels or uh lead paint on the inside and that a lot of like paranormal activity can be described from the side effects of like chemical exposure so like carbon monoxide people hallucinate um when there's just a little like not to kill you but like it causes people to go nuts and that's why like like because all haunted houses are old right like you don't have a new like no one's getting haunted in like a new condominium like right it's old houses old creaky ass houses, yeah. Well, quick pull, does anybody here believe in ghosts at

all? I think I do. I think I do believe in ghosts. I do. I do. I think, I like to refer to them as spirits. I feel like that's nicer. Okay. I'm referring to them as ghosts. Honestly, they're dead. They probably don't care. But I mean, if they're... You think ghosts are PC? Yeah. That'll be wild. If like, cancel, cancel,

or ghosts. If you got canceled by a ghost? But think about it if they're, if they're real, wouldn't you think that they would care about how they're getting treated still? I mean, I treat ghosts the same way I would a spirit. It's the same thing. I just like calling them spirits because I like to think of them in a positive light. I feel like ghosts has a negative connotation.

I think I believe in something to that effect. I don't know exactly what I believe in just yet. I'm still working through that. But how do you know that they like to be referred to as spirits or not ghosts? Because then you might be pissing them off trying to call them spirits? Yeah. She's just putting positive vibes out there. That's what she's trying to do.

just being like, hey, let's not be mean to the ghost. I feel like ghosts get a bad rap, but spirits don't or, but then, like, I feel like you can't call them all angels because they're not. They're going to do with ghost pact? Is there a difference between spirits and ghosts? No, I don't think so. I think ghosts maybe have, like, unfinished business, like PFT said. Do you get, like, a ghost mission statement or, like, ghost instructions that tell you what you, the

things that you have to accomplish? Because it is weird that, like you said, they show up at night and they take. typically do similar things in the history of what we claim to know about ghosts. But it seems like they're on the same page. Like they're pretty well organized. I feel like angels get, if there's angels, angels, angels get like an agenda of what they have or like who they're guardianing. I just, I think that it's a little bit arrogant if we as humans, absorbing the miracle of life as we do, think that nothing happens to you whatsoever after you die.

I think that something happens to you after you die. So you're saying you believe in an afterlife? I believe in something happening. I don't know exactly what. But there's so much that we don't know about the metaphysical world and about the physical world, even. And just about life. Yeah, about life in general that it seems weird that we're all experiencing the beauty of this thing called life together. We're sharing it.

And then at the end, it's just absolutely nothing. I don't know. You know the DMT thing, right? The God particle? Yeah, when you, like, apparently when you die, like, your brain releases a shit ton of DMT, which is a powerful hallucinogen, and basically, like, it causes these, you know, like, you're basically tripping when you die. Mm-hmm.

You so much, like, if you're releases so much, it basically, like, almost, like, may cause, the apparition of an afterlife or who knows i mean it's crazy is that why like if you're going off of that that's kind of how heaven is where it's like forever in a day type of thing because it's like could be five minutes or 10 minutes but it in your you know how you recently dead mind yeah how you observe time like people that go to outer space and experience relativity that sort of thing yeah in theory come back and yeah i don't know it could be like i just think it's very weird, like the odds of it happening of us all being here right now at the exact same time at the same point in, you know, millions and billions of years of the earth existing, the universe

existing. We all just happen to be here. We don't remember anything before we got here. And then it's just over after less than a blink of an eye in the terms of the universe. Like, I don't know. I don't think I necessarily believe that. Honestly, Duke's had a good take about it. I asked him today. And Dukes said that ghosts and spirits and whatever are in purgatory, and that's why they're still, like, on earth with us, because they're waiting to, like, get to heaven or hell. Would you rather everything just goes black, it's nothingness for the rest of eternity, or you're a ghost with one very specific, like, you're the lady of the lake and your only task for the rest of time is to, like, try to push people into a lake, and you're pissed off the whole time. Huh. I think I would like a task. I would like a job to do.

But I mean, after a few decades. We should do a ghost pact. Me and my buddies have a ghost pact where if one of us, whoever dies first, like haunts the shit out of the other guys, like and pranks them. And then what does the last person have to do? Well, then they just go to heaven together.

Oh, it's like, okay, cookie, except like, okay, got it. Last person and I, we all get out of here. Gotcha. shit. So like we should have whoever dies first prank the shit. I'll do one but don't prank me like do some good shit

like let me give me winning lot of numbers or some shit like that like don't do some stupid like I'm already scary like I don't like dark shit I don't like water. I like no so like it's the the YouTube pranksters but the ones that like give people cars that's what we're going to be doing as ghosts give me cars. We're going to just like

oh like where the hell did this smear off ice appear in my fridge? Like what the hell? It's like just like Are you just icing the shit out of you? I'm going to bring back icing big time as a ghost. What's that? You know, I'm going to ice the shit out everyone when I'm a ghost. I can see Billy as like a 55-year-old guy walking into his kitchen.

He like opens up the microwave to get his dinner out and there's a smearing off ice in there all of a sudden. And then he just solemnly takes a knee and starts crying, remembering his buddy that just iced him. This one's for you, man. Yeah. would be sick yeah maybe it's because we've just become so conditioned of thinking of ghosts or spirits as being bad that we're afraid of them

maybe that has somebody like when you die and you do become a spirit maybe it's because you've been told your whole life when you're dead and you're a ghost you're supposed to do bad shit you're supposed to do hood rat shit with your friends how about we reverse that and we're just like positive

positive ghost life I love to think luck is a lot of you know ghosts of your ancestors or people looking out for you just like the whole concept of luck what if you have horrible luck well then just your ancestors are upset what if you're like frank like frank is the unluckiest person of all time well hypothetically what if your uh your town was evicted twice and then they poured 600 billion gallons of water on your body would that make you upset enough to come back and try to wreck shop on people exactly bad luck i just couldn't

I can't imagine me being so bitter for that many years. Like, at what point I'm like, I can kill about 17 people this year. I'm, I'm, I'm cool. I'm a cool today. I'm going to, I'm going to show. I'm going to go upstairs. I'm like, at what point do you get over your beef, your world beef? Yeah.

Some, I don't know, maybe some bitter people down there because it also might just have something to do with the fact that people are just drunk on a lake that's very dangerous because there's a shitload of stuff underneath the water, like structures that are still very much real that exist down there that you can hit easily with a boat or things that you can get tangled up in if you're swimming. But the crazy part about Lake Lanier is that a lot of people have died very, very close to shore. Like an abnormal number of people die. You have to expect that there will be some people that pass away in a body of water every year.

You know, they have like cardiac episodes. And if you're in the water and your heart stops, you're pretty much dead. But there's an abnormally high amount of people that die in very shallow water who are also strong swimmers in good health at Lake Lanier. like that has actually been proven over the years that it's it's a much higher rate than other lakes so so basically the science behind why like it's much more than the lake that's like a couple miles away and even though not proportionate to how many people visit is that um there are other lakes that were created in this 1948 rivers and waters act in quite similar ways where they just flood land that wasn't a lake before and And another example is Lewis Smith Lake in North Alabama, and it has some of the same types of accidents, deaths, and disturbances. It's smaller than Lake Lanier, but it's basically very similar in how it's created and having structures underwater and having forests underwater. So basically the reason that since there's so much stuff on the bottom of the lake, people get tied up in it, wrapped up.

You know, you're not just dealing with reeds that you pull up. There's so much stuff that you can get entangled or trapped on. And also, since it's not a natural waterway, there hasn't been enough erosion to cause, like, a plane. So there's a lot of drop-offs in the shallow to deep water. That causes a lot of these, like, people who are swimming. And then it suddenly, you know, it's a 100-foot deep lake, like 20 yards offshore. Yeah. So since it's not a natural lake, it has some of these differences in, you know, topography, like this angle of the slope of a lot of the beaches.

And with that, there's also, like, the most dangerous lake in the United States is like Michigan. And the Great Lakes kill a lot of people every year because they're super deep. They're glacial lakes. And they have a steep drop-off. So, you know, a lot of this is explainable. by just, you know, an artificial lake doesn't work like other lakes. So it's going to kill more people. Yeah.

There's definitely something to that, like especially the parts about the big drop-offs. If you're not a strong swimmer, you're walking out, it drops off. Maybe you hit your head when you drop down. Maybe you panic and you don't realize which way is up and you're underwater. It's, there's always that scary moment if you're like in the ocean and you jump off a boat or whatever and you think that you're going to be able to touch the ground. with your feet underneath the water, and there's just no ground there. And there's like a moment of panic of like, oh, shit, how deep is this water right now? And that always freaks me out when that happens.

Well, we got this story from this person. Goy Sports said, I grew up five miles away from Lake Lanier. And a few summers ago, one of my mom's coworkers was jumping on one of those water trampolines with her kids when she decided to jump off into the lake. She went under and got caught in a chimney that had been flooded and never came back up. Fuck that. That's fucked. Fuck that.

How fucked is that? I mean, that's a crazy good shot, though. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know how precise you have to be? Fit in a chimney? That's scary. That sucks.

That's probably like the, maybe the worst way to die ever. That gives me shivers. The, like, claustrophobia underwater freaks me out. Especially if, like, obviously if she jumped in, she could, like, see the top. Like, she could see and just stuck in a chimney, oh, that's horrible.

That's pretty bad. I'm going on the water. Do not go in the water. That's your best take. I like that somebody saw trampolines and they're like, you know what, this isn't dangerous enough. Let's put it on a lake where we can't see what we're landing on. That's fucked.

Yeah, I will never, I don't think I'll ever go off. I'm never going to go off a water trampoline again. I'm always scared. We used to go boating on Lake Travis a lot. And there's like rock formations underwater. So you have to be on a boat that has. one of those sonar things that shoots it down to the water so you can tell exactly how deep it is before you jump off anything. But I never fully trust it because what if you miss like one

rock and then you jump off a cliff and then boom land on that. Lakes are pretty dangerous, but they're just so much fun. The other thing about Lake Lanier is this is actually something that's fascinating me for a while. There are a lot of rogue waves on Lake Lanier. Rogue waves are maybe the most metal thing that happens in nature. They're not really sure. They're not really sure how they're created. They're more common in the ocean, obviously, but they also happen in giant lakes where, for whatever reason, a lot of energy gets pent up and it just creates a tidal wave that moves silently across the water. And if there's a boat that's on it, like you can get fucked up big time. And sometimes you won't even know when the rogue wave goes underneath you

because of how the nature of water acts. I don't know, I'm not a, not Neil deGrasse Tyson, but sometimes you don't realize that a rogue wave is passing underneath you. And then, then it gets to shore and it just absolutely wrecks people on shore when it's finally forced to crash. But sometimes it can just take a boat and just throw it over. And you don't see it coming. You don't hear it coming. There's some dispute on how they're created in lakes, especially, but they're fucking, they're crazy. Like I kind of love, it's one of those things that is so scary to me that I actually kind of love it. Most guys have tried different ways to last longer but thinking about baseball it doesn't always work the folks at roman an online men's health

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No. Billy, have you ever seen a rogue wave? No, it sounds super interesting. Yeah. I mean, there are, you know what's like, isn't there like waves that are like rogue waves called like not El Tor? not El Toro, but like, just like they appear out of nowhere and surfers are really into them, right? Like in California, like, oh, man, like, is it El, not El Nino, but... El Nino, La Nina?

Like a spirit that creates waves? No, it's just like they sometimes show up. Like, there's, like, it's one of the top ten most famous waves. Like, there was the Wamia in Hawaii that, that they're just, like, rare. Wait, you can name a wave? Yeah, they's like, a wave will come and crash. And, like, the surfers all stand around and be like,

yo, man, that was a legendary wave. Like, we got to remember that wave. I just wanted to go sit on a beach just naming wave, like, one after the other. You feel. John Wave. The largest recorded Rogue Wave was 84 feet high and struck the Draupner Oil Platform in the North Sea in 1995.

Damn. That's a big ass. wave. There have also been a bunch of murders at Lake Lanier and disappearances. A few people have been shot there. A lot of bodies have just been found from various crimes they get committed in the area. A lot of, this part was funny. They find a lot of weapons in there and a lot of cars. And the sheriff is like, yeah, there are a lot of weapons here, but there's nothing that we have to really, we don't think that they're tied to any crimes. It's like, why else would somebody throw a gun into a lake? Like, that's, to me, is de facto.

Acto evidence that somebody was probably killed or shot at using that very gun. But yeah, a bunch of people, like, they steal cars and then they drive them into the lake, which is cool as hell, admittedly. That's pretty awesome. Like, they just go for a joyride, and then they drive it into the lake, and then it submerges. And it just becomes, it's become just a junk pile, pretty much. Like, if you figure, you know, there's all that shit down underneath the water anyways, what's one more Mustang going to do?

Why is that going to be a problem? So people just throw shit into the water, which just goes on to make it more dangerous. after the fact. So it's getting, the lake's getting worse. And there's one recent story in the news involving Julio Jones. So this is 2018, I think, 2019 maybe. He goes jet skiing out on Lake Lanier and his earring fell off. He had a hundred thousand dollar earring that fell out of his ear and fell into the lake. And they asked him if he was going to get like a diver to come search for. but the divers said it's impossible. It's absolutely impossible, given everything that's underneath that lake to try to go look for.

But he had it insured, which is good. And I was reading an article about it. And right after the court from the diver, where it said it's impossible, absolutely impossible. The writer just threw this one in here. Hopefully that means absolutely impossible in the same way it was absolutely impossible for the Patriots to overcome a 28 to 3 deficit late in the third quarter of Super Bowl. I knew exactly where that was. They just, 51, sorry, they just tossed that in there. That's brutal for Falcons fans.

It's like any story, the guy, the man lost $100,000 piece of jewelry, and that's not bad enough to write that story. You have to throw in the fact that they lost a Super Bowl. Is that going to be in every article about him for the rest of his life? Also, I just look this up, and I'm seeing $150,000. Does that mean the pair of earrings is $300,000? Because that's outrageous. Is it like a one earring type deal?

It would be odd if he just had one earring that was $100,000 and the other one. And it was like, right. So I'm saying, and I keep seeing earrings, singular, 300 grand for earrings. Yeah. This was one of my favorite responses. At Bay Danger said, legend has it. Georgia Tech still runs a triple option at the very bottom of the lake. I like that.

Georgia Tech should never stop running the triple option. They should not have done that. Yeah. I hope that's true. I hope that part's true. Do you think that, like, given all this shit that's happened in and around this lake and the history of Northern Georgia, do you think that Atlanta sports teams are cursed because of all the curse of Atlanta sports teams it's actually one and the same with the curse of the lake it's just that whole area is cursed so you brought this up earlier and it's an interesting there are two prevalent theories as to why Atlanta sports are cursed the first is uh the city of Atlanta sold it sold to the devil to get the Olympics in 1996 which the timeline does I mean the Braves won the World Series in 95 and then immediately after that they get the Olympics and then dog shit sense and then Richard Jewell yeah

The other one is that it actually... You saw the Richard Jewel movie. Never actually saw it. Oh, really? Yeah. I could see that being like one of the founding, like the bedrocked stone of everything that you're terrified about in life. Yeah, I do.

But the other is actually has to do kind of with what you were talking about earlier that much of Atlanta's built on like Indian burial grounds. And that's why the sports are cursed also. Well, the one sport that they had that won, the Atlanta Braves, who they beat in that World Series. Indians? Yeah. So it was like rock versus.

somebody had to win. Immovable object. We're just going to take the Cleveland Indians and say that they're more cursed than the Atlanta Braves are. So, yeah, you guys are cursed. No two ways about, wait, why would, why does the devil give a shit where the Olympics are? I don't know. That's just a prevalent theory.

He just takes any type of, like if you want something. Yeah, I mean, he deals in all sorts of stuff. Just souls. He markets, if anybody is in the market for, like, to sell their soul, he's like, okay, let's talk. If you win, you get this shiny fiddle made a goal, but if you lose, the devil get your soul. Dude, Charlie Daniels.

Rest and peace. Your soul is off the guns. I think it's like student. It's cool. What would you guys sell your soul for? That's what I'm saying. I would do it for... That's interesting.

Quarter pounder? Because, no, I don't know. I'd have to be something I actually like. It would be something cool, though, like a beach house. Yeah. That's pretty cheap for selling your soul. I mean, how much our soul's worth? How much is this will a nigga to give?

Like, solve, I mean, give me a country. It's a country. Will you do that? Yeah, actually, that's actually, that's a good move. Billy, you have to understand supply and demand because I think that there are a lot of people out there that are willing to sell their souls. So the devil knows, like, I don't have to overextend myself. Like, this is an economically savvy devil. Yes, yes, he's got the power.

He has alternatives. If you don't want to sell him, your soul, he's like, fine, there's somebody down the block who will. So he can walk away from the negotiating table. And you're like, hold on, player, hold on, let's talk about this. Yeah. I think that the, I don't know, I would probably say, Beach House sounds to me like it's, that's making a lot of sense. Beach House. Like a movie Beach House, you know, like where it's like a, it's like a, like a, like a hut, you know what I mean?

And I can walk straight, like, what beach? Straight out, huh? What beach? It's got to be like Hawaii or something. Like American beaches are. like they're kind of like dirty and um but it has to be some tropical waters to where it's like blue you know not like brown what about what about the beach house from wolf of wall street but like the party still rages on all the time there that exact party i don't want parties i don't

want any parties no parties i have a beach house that's for solace it's not for area i thought you need water why would you get a beach house i'm not going in it it's beautiful yeah you can enjoy the scenery of the beach and a beach town without going into the ocean and And to all our Hawaiian listeners, I will acknowledge, even though Arian won't, that you are a part of America when he says that he meant mainland. He didn't want on American beach. Bags, that's my fault. I fuck that off. Would you like to apologize?

Say, we're going to say aloha to you, the goodbye one if you don't apologize. How many listeners do you think we have in Hawaii right now? At least 38. 38. Aloha. Mahalo to our Hawaiian friends. Yeah, honestly, beach house devil talk to me. give my people a call, we'll make something work out.

If it's a good beach, I can do it. What about you, Big T? I don't know. If you promised me, and we've had this discussion before with different scenarios that Tennessee would win a national championship in football, we're alarmingly close in baseball right now. But if you could promise me we win a football national championship, I would, I would, I'd be in talks.

I'm not saying I would do it, but I would, it's a conversation worth having. Didn't he say he would kill himself in the middle of the field or like get publicly executed? No, he said that he would have, he would have Khalid Sheikh Mohammed be the head coach of the Tennessee Volunteers if it meant that they would be guaranteed of a national championship and right afterwards he would be beheaded at midfield. Because I mean, it's not going to get any better than the falls winning. KSM, KSM bringing it home. Feels like 98.

We're going to win one in baseball now, though. So that's going to hold us over for a little while. Yeah. Would you sell your soul if it insured that you would get like a reasonable interest rate on any loan that you ever received for the rest of your life? I'm talking like pretty decent. Like a point below market average. I mean, I'm paying some pretty steep interest on student loans right now. So that sounds not too bad.

Would you sell your soul for? That's what I would do. I would erase all student loan debt. Sell myself for that. You're a student loan debt. You can't file for that. for bankruptcy. Like, if you file for bankruptcy, you still have to pay off your student loans.

That is ridiculous. Yeah. Like, he's a common. Aaron's a man of the people. Pull yourself up by your bootstraps, Billy. I know, but like you can't even like, bankruptcy. I don't want to hear about that. Don't want to hear about that bullshit. Pull yourself by bootstraps.

Go get a job. I'm being lazy and relying on welfare. It would be ridiculous. What if you sold your soul to have every single sports team win every championship for the rest of you life. That would actually kind of suck. Oh, I wouldn't want that. How long do you think it would take for you to get sick of that situation?

I've said forever, I want each of the teams I like to win one time. Exactly one. I want the balls to win once, Braves, Falcons, Hawks, friends, one time. Not even twice? No, I want to enjoy it all one time. That's it. Okay, I agree with that, except I would like one dynasty. So I would want one of those teams to win three times in five years.

So I could be like, remember that age, the dynasty? See, that was crazy. We dominated. Who are your teams? Me or PFT? Both. Braves, Falcons, Hawks, Predators, Valls. I would be cheering for the football team.

They play football. The Washington Capitals, the Washington Nationals. And, yeah, I guess I'm technically a Wizards fan, but not really. I don't have any space in my head for the Wizards. Never really cared enough about them to ever actively cheer for them. I think it's because their uniform suck. And the name sucks. The name's off.

The name and the uniform. Yeah. Old name was cool. The bullets. They changed it. And there were a bunch of good names that they were thinking about changing it to. And then Abe Poland was like, well, I'm going to call them the Wizards. And then gave us some weird, like, angular mascot logo that looked.

That sucked. Yeah. Those gold uniforms were cool. They ruined the latter part of Michael Jordan's career with those whack-ass uniforms. They did. None of his shoes looked dope in those uniforms, all trash. Yeah. I've got a Michael Jordan Wizard's uniform.

And I'm just like too embarrassed to ever wear. because this is they've been trying to go back to the bullets and they're just wearing jerseys now that say DC on them and they're in the old bullet style so they're we're making our way back there pretty quickly or what if the washington football team just became the bullets that'd be a good name that'd be sick oh there was a there was a Twitter thread actually that had um it was a while it was like two years ago uh that had all the football teams that had basketball teams in a city they uh they swap the jerseys so like the houston uh rockets had like football uniforms for the Houston Rockers were in football uniforms and then the Houston Texans had basketball. And it was dope how they did that shit. I liked it. Yeah, I don't think I'd sell my soul for, just eternal sports luck doesn't seem, it'd get annoying after a while. Parades are loud, a lot of people. Don't only drink out the Stanley Cup so many times. You know how it goes. You'd just be a bossy thing. Yeah, really, Dave Portnoy is, he probably sold his soul. Dave and Fidelberg. Yeah.

soul to soul and just like an auxiliary benefit of that was getting to do the media stuff like developing the company right was just I actually sometimes thinking I wonder about that like how how successful would this company be if Boston sports had absolutely sucked from the year 2004 until like 2018 because there's definitely like there's an element of visibility that comes with a winning team that's interesting that's a good point I would sell my soul to have the Lakers win the championship every year. Every year? Strictly. Just to fucking brag. I love that. That's fun. What do you think about LeBron taking number six, though?

Maybe this is part of the deal that we struck. Ooh, six. That's the mark of the beast. Yep. LeBron made some sort of deal with Satan at some point in his life. I'm confident in that. Who he most confident has made a deal with Satan? He's a chosen one.

He's a chosen one on his back. Jeff Bezos? After he sold his soul. Who made a deal with the devil? Didn't Ozzy Oswald? Rex Ryan? Who else keeps getting chances? I think Musk.

I think Elon Musk's like his answer. Tim Tebow, bro. I'm interested to hear this. Oh. Listen. dude is sure he's a great guy right i never met him sure he's a great guy but like not as a controlled by satan you say what you say i'm sure he's a great guy but he's controlled by satan it would make sense he the jesus thing is like a little maybe his angle right and maybe his angle

and he keeps getting like chances in professional sports it's wild and then every time he tebos he's actually like praying to the devil and then he got everyone else to do it's praying to satan Listen, I'm on board with this theory, I mean, I think Tim Tebow is, I love it when he's involved in the conversation because he's so fun to talk about because he's so like polarizing and weird. He's a big fucking weirdo. No, no, I just, I love having it around. I always thought that the Mets should have brought him up to the actual Major League roster because they stunk at the time. Why not sell a few more tickets? Give us something to talk about.

Put asses and seats. always perplexed why they never even gave him a shot. But he is like, whatever, whatever thing he gets in his head that he wants to try next, it's like, yeah, Tim, you can do this. We all believe in you. Like, we treat him like he's a child still. And he's like, I want to be an astronaut. Okay, Tim, we can get, we'll send you a space camp.

How does that sound? I want to be a race car driver. Okay, Tim. The funny, the funnier said is like, if you say anything negative about this man, he had, he has like, Beyonce level stands, bro, like where they would just attack you on some, like, well, look at your career. and I'm like, a bit. Yeah, I'd venture to say that Aryan Foster

had a better NFL career than Tim Tebow did. Not to Tim Tebow's fans, though. Not to his fans. Right. To his fans, I had the worst. You remember when he couldn't even play Pump Protector in New York? Yeah.

I didn't even, at that time, I was checked out. Of the Tim Tebow News. He looks fucking huge now, though. He's got these biceps that are like the size of legs. It's crazy. Billy, what's their? I think like he's on trend, Loki. That looks like Trent.

And what's that? Trend, Trenblone acetate, which was used to, it's like the stuff they give to cattle to like make a lot of meat. Like that giant cattle. Yeah. There was that there was that that tweak that went viral, right? And I put cap on it, right?

That's how the Tebow fans started to, to, to swarm. But they said that this man, Well, I think it was like, how much, I don't know how much it was on the bar, but like, because he was like in, maybe college or high school, something like that. And he walked in and did like, what was it, like, 300 or 400 reps? Yeah, walked out. Like, get the fuck out. Get the fuck out of here, dog.

Get the fuck. It was. And all his fans were like, you don't know, you weren't there. He simply tried harder. The only serenaded on is Jesus. Yeah. The old saying, like, PEDs, I pray every day. every day.

Yeah, take them. He, you're giving yourself up with holy water every day. He, that, that story is so funny because it's,

I think it's a 45 pound bar that he was doing these on. And then he, like the next closest was, what, 50? I just found the story. When Tim Tew was 14 years old, he attended the summer camp

with his older brothers. Kids at the camp had a 55 pound curl bar and one to see who could do the most. The record was 55. Tebow stepped up. He was last in line. He didn't stop at 50. though. Why? Because the guy behind him was massive and Tebow didn't know how many he could do. Instead, 14-year-old Tim Tebow did 315 reps of the 55-pound bar. He couldn't move his arms for three days, but the last guy didn't come close.

He's like, worth it. Wait, that story said he was last in line, but then at the end. Second to last, my thought. Second to last. Okay. Imagine what a pain in the ass that would be going to summer camp with Tim Tebow? Why even bother with any activity? It's like, okay, here's... Is he not drink guy? Because I think he, like, does drink. I was just going to ask, did he drink in college?

I think he drinks, but he doesn't drink drink. Well, the thing is, guys who like, like, if you told me, like, Taseom Hill, right? Like, Mormon, he's that jacks because, like, he doesn't drink and just, like, doesn't, like, his body's been untouched by, like, anything that could, like, lower your testosterone. Like, that could be more believable. But Tebow's just out there drinking. So, like, you know? Like, does he have one beer?

Here's a story. In a world full of booze, drugs, and girls, Tebow admits to a different sort of ice. I love ice cream, he says. The biggest reason I don't consume alcohol is because if I have a glass of wine, I don't want to be responsible for a kid looking up to me and saying, hey, Tebow's doing it. I'm going to do it. Thank you, Tim.

Thank you, Tim. want a stand-up guy oh god bro Johnny Mansell and Tim Tebow and like that's basically the devil on one shoulder the angel on the other

if Tim Tebow party like Johnny Manzell and Johnny Manzell lived life like Tim Tebow Johnny Manzell might he would probably still be in the NFL right now he'd probably be a very good quarterback would Tebow think

be a little more, if he was a little more relaxed, he would have been a better quarterback? Maybe. Maybe. Yeah, he's too, he's got all that pressure been up. He has no vices. It's still criminal that we haven't had a documentary on the 2008 Florida Gators that had Urban Meyer, Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, Aaron Hernandez, Riley Cooper. The Pounceys. The Pouncey Twins. Percy Harvin. Ran his Spikes. Yeah, I mean, it's unreal that that team, the collection of characters they had.

Did you guys see the picture of Ronnie Lott and John Madden? Very much alive. He's alive. He doesn't look great, unfortunately. I'm worried about John Madden officially worried. Now, he's definitely about to go in the next year probably. Yeah. Did you see it, bro?

Yeah, a lot of, like, these guys, I know guys who look like that who lived for like 30 more years. Bill, you're making shit up, man. A lot. He doesn't look, he doesn't look great. It's a combination of that and also the fact that he's been out of the public guy so much. it makes me think that maybe he's I don't want it to be true and we kept Tommy Sordo

alive for years and years after many people thought that he was going to pass along maybe we have to go to visit death and convince him not to take John Madden so he should be on the cover Madden though I think that this year it's like the old saying goes give people their love and their rose as well

they're still alive don't wait for them to die to tell somebody that you love them because what if spirits don't exist where if ghosts don't exist and they don't get to hear that So I say put John Madden on the cover of Madden this year. And yeah, people will be like it's a Madden curse when he dies. But guess what? He's going to pass away anyways.

Hopefully not soon, but he might. I just say I would like to see him back on the cover Madden. Bring it back full circle. I thought it was already dead. So anything else is a positive. All right. Wait, more from this article about Tim Tebow. Tim explains, well, he loves meeting and talking with new people.

He is also careful about leading girls on. While his peers are out partying, Tebow can be found hanging out with my siblings and close friends. It's my favorite thing to do in the world. I love laughing. I love telling jokes. I really try to enjoy life and have joy with what I do. I mean, this guy's a fucking Satanist. You called it.

Like, the devil's hands are very busy in Tim Tebow's soul right now. Bro, niggas, they'd be that perfect. I'd be feeling like they'd be choking babies or some shit. They'd be doing something. Like, because like, niggas, you know that per. part like it's wowed how perfect you are portrayed well he goes and he circumcises orphans he goes on these mission trips over the philippines what if he is like dexter what if he is like a serial killer but he's found all the perfect ways to like slowly escalate his behavior throughout the

years so he gets he starts playing a lot of football not because he loves football but because he can just like hurt people that are smaller than him growing up and he has like a thing about trying to run people over and dominate them and then he starts he progresses Now he's circumcising kids overseas, where under the wrong set of circumstances, the physical acts that he's doing could be considered highly illegal, whether it's torture or if you want to go down a darker road, maybe it's molestation. But because it's under the umbrella of like I'm circumcising people with my church, then it's okay. But now I'm just saying, I'm just playing devil's advocate here. There is a good possibility that Tim Tebow might have sold a soul to the devil. And it's only a matter of time before he kills.

Or you've seen a soul to Jesus and Jesus drives a harder bargain. Do you think him and Trevor Lawrence are going to be like Jesus bros together? Do you think they're going to start a Bible study on the Jaguars? Is Trevor Lawrence a Jesus guy? I haven't even. Yeah, I think so. Trevor Lawrence got married at 21. He's a huge difference.

He's from the Davos 20 tree. So he probably is Gardner Minshue. Now he's going to be the wildcard on that team. We should actually get, that should be hard knocks this year. Give me Tebow, Gardner, Trevor Lawrence, Urban Meyer. That would be, I mean, it would be amazing. I think they're going to try to out-jee-sus each other all the time. As you know, like, you know when there's like two guys you know are similar,

and they sort of occupy the same like role in like different friend groups. And then they meet each other and they hate each other. Because you think they're going to best friends because they're like. There's definitely going to be. like an unspoken rivalry maybe and you're right they're going to have to prove themselves as being like the bigger jesus guy who's gonna who's gonna lead the team prayer uh tim tibo he's gonna do 305 reps of the team prayer he's gonna make sure that Trevor can't do more than he does well i might piss off Trevor yeah like Trevor might be like I'm the Jesus guy like this guy he's

not allowed to out Jesus me Trevor got married at 21 that's that's the biggest Jesus guy move you can do. Yeah. When did Tebow get married? Like just this year. Recent. Recently, actually. So he was out here.

He was at her. Oh, in question? No. Yeah. Tebow might have a couple of skeletons. Like, you haven't really heard of anybody that he's kept his nose relatively clean as far as dating rumors go. Yeah. No, but Trevor Lawrence and his wife are younger than me and Billy are.

Yeah. That's scary. It is very scary. So Tim Tebow, Satanist, Big Teak agrees. I didn't say I agreed with that. Yeah. He is too squeaky clean. Do wait.

Would Tim Tebow sell his soul to Jesus to guarantee that he gets in heaven? But he had to kill seven children to do it. No. I think he'd want to work hard for it. What if Jesus was like, he's like, that's not enough? No, I think he'd be like, no, I can do this on my own. I don't need your husband. No, he'd be like, I'm going to set the record.

What's the record for most children murder? I'm going to do three times as many. All right. Anything else anybody wants to add? Do we have any other tweets or emails or anything about this fucking lake? Oh, just big disclaimer. Don't go in the water. Just don't fucking go.

I did share in the group chat that they're actually coming out with a documentary on it. Oh, November. It's not a documentary. It's like a horror movie. Oh, it's going to be a movie. It's called Lanier, November 28th. We met all off to watch that. Yes.

very how this podcast has so much social currency man I'm just saying someone did say that it was a fact that Big T has been quoted as saying this is my favorite place to dump a body it is yeah I would that is a great place if you had to dump a body though based on what you know about the lake does it is it a good place or it seems like if somebody needed to dump a body it wouldn't be the worst place in the world but it also seems like it's such an obvious place that like you wouldn't want to do it that like it's It's a little chuggy almost to dump your body there. Everyone's doing it.

For sure. The block is too hot. I don't know. I feel like, though, from what you said, PFT, I feel like the cops have kind of given up on looking there. All the time in Georgia, it's like, yep, a boat with three people capsized. We went looking for it for two days. Didn't find it is what it is. Yeah.

Yeah, it does sound like they've just, they've treated the lake as a suspect in so many murders and investigations. Lake got them. They're like, I think we can close the book on this one. she's in the lake. Yep. Classics and they're just like, oh, man, Lake got another one. Lake did it.

Yep. I'm going to go arrest the lake real quick. There's probably been, I guarantee you there's been at least one Georgia State Trooper that has discharged his weapon into that lake. Desk pop. Just, push,

the lake, got them. Would you call it? Desk pop. You ever seen the other guys? No. What was your last deck? Desper. September 08.

Yeah. Aaron knows what I'm talking about. in Mark Wahlberg Yeah If you were a tuna I'd swim out Yeah Don't don't butcher it

Because that's an amazing joke I know All right That does it for us today Anything else Any more emails Comments Lake Lanier

Might get cut off As a water supply To Atlanta Because it's in the middle Of a little lawsuit right now I think It's going canceled

By Minnesota A lake they're saying that they shouldn't be using all that water for Atlanta it should be just for the surrounding areas okay why because it's is it too dirty no it's just that they don't they basically just been taking the water and it's been causing like weird droughts and stuff around there so it's actually wrapped up in a little bit of a controversy several lawsuits it feels like they're just Yeah, they're just trying to disrupt the lake.

I don't know. Just throw everything in Canada to lake because investigations haven't worked, talking about it hasn't worked. Why not try to just wrap it up in court for a while? Yeah, so Congress never authorized Lake Lanier to be used as a source of water supply for Metro Atlanta. So Georgia has three years to stop with joining from the lake. That's kind of crazy.

And it's supply 75% of the water to Atlanta. Something tells me they'll work that out. Yeah. All right. Well, don't go to Lake Lanier. Don't go there. If you do stay out of the water. And if you don't stay out of the water, stay away from the lady with two hands,

unless she's trying to flag you down, in which case, pull over and help her out. Because she doesn't have any hand. She can't hitchhike. She hasn't gotten a ride. Help her out. All right. That does it for us. Love you guys.

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