Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Mass Hysteria

Episode Date: July 13, 2021

On today's episode of Macrodosing, hear stories of Mass Hysteria around the globe. From 16 days straight of laughter to the disappearing of genitalia, you don't want to miss it. Also a recap of last w...eeks show on Aliens.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Welcome back to Macro Dosing, the only podcast that you can find on iTunes. There are two podcasts now that you can get on Spotify. It's this one as the sit-down. So thank you for listening. I think you chose wisely. It is macrodosing.
Starting point is 00:00:23 We've got nearly full house here today. We have in studio, Avery. We've got Mad Dog, Big T, Rosed. Billy. We've got Arian via Zoom. And then Coley's on his honeymoon. So Coley's having sex for the first time. Probably right now, actually, as I'm saying this, Coley is fucking. Congratulations. You've got our podcast on in the background. I've actually heard that macro dosing is the best podcast to have sex to. Yeah. It's like peer reviewed study. Absolutely. Peer reviewed study. Yeah. That's like, I guess you could say maybe Brian McKnight, if you're listening to music,
Starting point is 00:01:00 macrodosing if you're listening to podcasts, the world's sexiest podcast, guaranteed to get you in the mood. That actually has not been fact-checked, but I'm just going to say it. I choose to believe that it's true. And before we get into today's episode, which is going to be a great one, by the way, we're all very excited about it. It's about mass hysteria. We talked about it a little bit on the last episode that we had, but various mass hysteria cases throughout the last like six, seven hundred years. Really interesting stuff.
Starting point is 00:01:27 As Aryan just put it, this episode is all cap. It's the cap episode, right? It's a big cap. A whole episode full of the number of cap. There we go. Whole episode full of cap. Before we get into it, I want to talk to you about a great sponsor, BetterHelp. You guys know that life can be full of stressors.
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Starting point is 00:03:58 podcasts and that were really awesome and handsome. Okay, great. Thank you, BBC. Longtime Stoolies at the BBC. We love it. And yeah, we got a lot of different mass hysteria things to get into. I think everyone's taken aside here. Just want to say I've been on a little bit of a vacation recently. I was down at the at the Jersey Shore for the last week and a half at probably what I would have to assume would be Aryan Foster's least favorite place in the entire world to go because there is a dog beach right next to my house and it combines your two least favorite things right a dog a beach for dogs and it's actually my favorite place in the world I love going there and just meeting the new dogs but they all they all kind of look at me cross-eyed because they know that like I've got that associated with you and so you're putting a bad name in front of dogs for me I'm okay with that actually that might save you actually but yo don't fuck with him so your chances of getting bit lowers because of their hesitancy to come around you so you're welcome for that and what the fuck do they just shit on the beach I guarantee they shit I understand don't they yeah you can't tell a dog
Starting point is 00:05:10 where to shit ah but we can yeah well they probably kick the sand up on it yeah they probably do a great job. I mean, fish shit in the ocean all the time. That's where they live, though. Yeah. There's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, there's no, sure dogs naturally. I don't know. Like, it's the fuck out of it. Beach dogs. They're beach horses. I know I've seen beach horses before. Those are like on islands though, right? Yeah, yeah, they just typically get stranded after Spanish shipwrecks a few hundred years ago. And then they're like, oh, they're native to this land. It's like, no, they just swam to shore. But yeah, the dogs do shit on the beach.
Starting point is 00:05:45 They shit in the sand. But if you're going to, a shit somewhere why not shit in the sand it feels like a like cats cover up their shit and litter all the time it feels pretty natural actually i think we lost arian do we yeah the island is called asceticua island national seashore in virginia is power cut out wild horses oh are you going yeah well we'll get back we just keep going get back to arian sorry i thought you were just saying that aryan arian's uh power cut out it's the texas power grid it's been under fire recently. So, yeah, it's Assateague Island. Asateague, yeah, sorry. Yeah, Assateague and then Chiquettee Island is right next to it. My family used to go there all the time
Starting point is 00:06:24 when we were kids. And yeah, they do like this pony swim every year where the fire department basically corrals all the wild ponies on Asatig, makes them swim across the channel and then sells them. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's pretty crazy. They wrote a book about it and everything. That's really cool. That's like a myth. They like didn't know where these horses came from and And they found out that the galleon called La Galga, which is Spanish for Greyhound, was the source of all these wild horses. Yeah, there are just tons of just bands of wild horses that just roam across Satea Islands. That's awesome. It's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Big T, it's good to see you back. It's good to see you as well. Did you have a good vacation? Yeah. What does a Big T vacation look like? I was basically just working in Nashville. Yeah? Played golf once.
Starting point is 00:07:11 went to a sports bar that all my friends hate twice but I made them go which one it's called double dogs it's delicious you can take dogs there oh that sounds like fun you have to eat outside but so why do your friends hate it uh they say it's not good but it's it's like a very it's I said that because it speaks to when you said what's vacation for big tea like it's like the most basic sports bar you could ever think of and it's like my favorite place in the world I love that though so I went there twice yeah that was that was pretty much it okay did you get drunk no did you have a beer no so you like going to sports bars but not drinking at sports bars that's that's correct yeah that is kind of weird to me well this one has great nugget ice so you have to get like a coke with the ice so that you
Starting point is 00:07:59 that that's one of the best parts so it's the soft ice like it's sonic oh it's better than sonic it's bigger chunks it's like the size of probably like chick-fil-a nuggets wow and but it's soft as hell it's just perfect okay so you go there you go to sports bars for the you are the guy in real life who's like yeah i read penthouse for the articles yeah you go to sports bars for the what do you get like if you're feeling frisky do you get a like a a cherry coke oh i love cherry coat yeah that's what i get that when i go to uh chick fillet that's like that's like that's your cocktail since you're not a drinker yeah it's like shirley temple yeah all right well that sounds like fun it was it was great what about you mad dog
Starting point is 00:08:40 I went home to Cleveland and hung out there tried to Alpha Billy with some eggs Fortunately did not realize I couldn't bring the black back on my plane But yeah, went to an Indians game We don't say that anymore Oh, went to a Cleveland baseball club game
Starting point is 00:08:59 Yeah, just went home, hung out I realized that I like New York more in Cleveland I was right the whole time So that tweet was accurate that says a bad day in New York's better than a great day in Cleveland? Yeah, people in Cleveland are fired up. There's like merch made about it now. Yeah, I was going to say that tweet launched like a thousand t-shirts.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Yeah, Cleveland. Okay, Cleveland's like known for making merch about themselves. Like I have like six Cleveland sweatshirts from like companies that are purely Cleveland merch. So yeah, I got a bunch of shirts that were like Cleveland over New York any day. And someone said that they like Cleveland more because there's a lower cost of living. and no rats. I don't know if that's... I don't think that's true about...
Starting point is 00:09:43 I think that they're rats in Cleveland. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that, yeah, rodents exist there. Objectively, there are rats somewhere in Cleveland. Lower cost of living makes sense, but also it's just so... No offense, Cleveland. I love Cleveland, but a lot more boring. Next Paul fight's going to be in Cleveland. Yeah, and the Pauls are from the city I grew up in, so that's objectively. There's, like, three stoops down.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Do you have, do you have, like, a billboard? because that used to be a big thing at least when I was growing up you'd take a road trip like through the south and every, oh it was like every time you drive through I want to say Myrtle Beach, South Carolina it would be a giant sign that says
Starting point is 00:10:19 Myrtle Beach home of Vana White and just a giant ass picture of Vana White do they have billboards like that for the Pals? No, not for the Pals. I could see the Pals making their own billboards though. No, the Paul's like biggest move when Vine was really big was going to like our local mall and like going to the food court
Starting point is 00:10:36 and just like standing on tables and doing shit like that um no the pauls are like notoriously hated in cleveland that you guys don't claim the pauls no no one claims the pauls in cleveland you're a drew carry place yeah yeah big drew carry people but no the pauls are like we're out on the pauls in cleveland okay what about machine gun Kelly oh big machine gun Kelly well he has that uh he has like a coffee shop down there now so people go down there and it's called the 27 club so it's all like products named after people who are part of the 27. It sounds like you do like Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I love Cleveland. Like, I love the city. I could not live there right now. What's his, what's his coffee called? Does he have, like, his own brew? I don't think he has his old brew, his own brew,
Starting point is 00:11:17 but all of it's, like, pink. And people, like, come there, and, like, people would go on road trips to go to this place. But 27 club coffee. Yep. And it's, like, super, it, like, just opens,
Starting point is 00:11:28 like, kind of, like, super trendy. Yeah, everything's pink. And, like, Yeah, this looks like it should be in the East Village somewhere. Yeah. We got Arian just joined us by. Aaron, what's the power grid situation like down there? I think the dogs is cutting my lines.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Fucking my shit up. But we're good. We back. It's probably PETA. Peter's probably like, I can't have this person's opinions hit the internet any longer. You're inspiring violence against dogs. You're inciting violence. I would think they would be in my pocket, actually.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Because I'm not necessarily inspiring violence. I'm saying stay away from them, period. Like, don't kidnap them or their kids either. Like, that's my thing. I would, I saw a couple dogs this weekend that I wanted to kidnap, just like straight up from their owners because I felt like I could, I don't know, I just fell in love, I fall in love very easily with different dogs that I meet. It's a problem that I have.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I think Peter wouldn't like Aaron. Go to any hood, USA and see if you feel the same way. Wait, are you saying, like, with a dog that grew up in a hood? are you saying like people no i'm saying yeah those dogs that struggle to eat yeah they're straight and they're walking around like those are the type of dogs i'm saying okay i love those dogs i love those i actually heard a story recently the reason why i asked about people i heard a story last week um about this group it's like an animal rights collective and they'll just straight up go out on the street and they'll kidnap dogs from homeless people and then and then take them in
Starting point is 00:13:00 and feed them, give them the shots and then get those dogs adopted out to like, they're just straight up stealing the one thing that a homeless person has. And I was like, I'm just going to go out on a limb here. That's how it's the whitest thing that I can ever imagine is somebody seeing a homeless person being like
Starting point is 00:13:16 I'm going to take their dog and then I'm going to make sure that their dog is well fed and has a place to sleep at night. Like fuck the homeless person and then I'm going to get that dog put into a home for the rest of its life so it can live a healthy, full life, let's just forget about the actual person that's still on the street.
Starting point is 00:13:35 When I heard that story, I was like, Arian has, Arian's not completely offline when he's talking about how we do care for animals more than we care for people sometimes. It's not even close, man. And like, those kind of stories are rampant all over the place. Like, you can like, like, if you, if you kill a dog, like, in a certain way, like, you can get more time for killing the dog than you do from killing a person. It's wild. Yep. Hey, listen, we love our woofers. Yeah, also there's people who kidnap dogs with dog fighting. That's what scares me.
Starting point is 00:14:08 Like, if my dog got kidnapped and I went on like a Keanu Reeves to find my dog because he's in some like fighting ring somewhere. Right, no one would do that to your dog. It's, it's an irrational fear I have. You neutered your dog. No, but like for like bait dogs. Oh, but no, I don't think Whitey would be a bait dog. Yeah, he would because he's neutered and he's nice.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah, but I don't think that they would use a neutered dog for that. They'd be like whoever owns this dog. is very clearly a beta and took its testicles away from it so we should let our killer dogs get it do you think it be better or worse to have a dog that's completely white as a bait dog because then the blood shows up more is that a good thing bro i don't know i don't even want to think about it let's not talk okay no more dog fighting talk beyond some Liam nilsum yeah yeah what's that movie it's taken and there's john wick john wick i'd go john wick i go absolutely ballistic billy wick Billy's John Wick scenario would be like he'd roll up to the very first thing and get shot by the first person that he tried to fight.
Starting point is 00:15:08 And that's the end of the movie. Movie over. Movie over. But you'd be doing the right thing, Billy. All right, before we get into mass hysteria, I did have one last thing I want to bring up. So this morning, I woke up, checked Twitter timeline, as I usually do on days where we have a show that comes out. Just see what people are saying. I got tagged in something this morning via our intern.
Starting point is 00:15:30 here mad dog on a podcast it was it the chicks university podcast it was a chicks university podcast yeah so i don't know how it's kind of weird i don't know how to how i feel about it honestly uh apparently she got dressed up as me for Halloween i did was that this year yeah you dressed up as me for how how long was the list of of costumes that you decided not to get dressed like i had to be pretty far down that list right not really wait how did you how did you dress as him this year for Halloween
Starting point is 00:16:04 I wore I have a football guy's guy shirt so I wore that and then just like joggers and then I had sunglasses and a baseball hat and I had a pack of tin that I found on the ground on the point of the bar and then I had a cardboard sign that said is Joe Flacco a elite quarterback and then where can I find
Starting point is 00:16:26 this um i'll send the picture of the i mean what would you do about the facial hair you had to have some facial hair right uh no i everyone knows i've got a beard and then i just like let my hair down and then i and then my best friend dressed up is big cat all right um it's it's honestly kind of weird but i'm sorry no it's it's okay it's honestly it's probably the laziest costume it was last minute costume that a girl can pull off if they have long hair it doesn't even matter if you have brown hair or blonde hair or whatever just like put on a hat and sunglasses and try to look like the Unabomber, and guess what? I'm PFT Coms for Halloween.
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah, I was really hungover. And so, like, no one, like, all the girls at the bars at school were dressing up, you know, in, like, normal people costumes. And then I was just, like, wearing my sunglasses the whole day. And no one got it. No one got it. That was going to be my next question. Like, was there at least one person there that was like, oh, it's BFT?
Starting point is 00:17:18 No. Well, because I wasn't holding up. I feel like the sign helped because if you, like, listen to part of my take, then you could get it. But I wasn't holding up the sign. just like at the bar so that would be hilarious and then well like and my best friend had like a larry shirt on and she had a goldfish like cracker in a bag representing larry um no no one got it i would say like oh we're pf team big cat from part of my take and then they would be like oh oh yeah but no one no one really appreciated it i thought it was funny i posted on my own barstool page at school
Starting point is 00:17:55 but my costume is not your culture or wait no other way around my culture is not your costume i feel i feel offended by it let's see this picture yeah i this is okay this is a very lazy costume it is it's objectively lazy but you just wanted to wear sweatpants and then wear a hat because you didn't feel like washing your hair if it wasn't for the sign it wouldn't be a costume she's just dressed but i also have the i have the football guys guy sure but like that's just a shirt that we sell. Like, people wear that shirt when they're not in a costume.
Starting point is 00:18:27 But PFT, where's that shirt? I do wear that shirt. And, yeah. And I wear hats and I wear sweatpants and sunglasses. And I found the pack of tin and I thought that was accurate too. Aaron, what do you think about the costume? I'm going to give this a two. I'm sorry, mad dog.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Man, dog, just lazy, bro. It's okay. I get, I understand that it was lazy. But I also was like, I wanted to do this for a couple years and no one would do with me and my friends today in AWL too. So she, um. She, hers might be lazier. than yours she needs a mustache well i mean we've we've had an interesting week of girls getting
Starting point is 00:18:59 compared to big cat here is that you never want to say like yeah you know what mad dog you're right your friend looks exactly like damn cats no so i mean we were both really hung over and we thought i i still to this day think it was a fun costume i thought it was funny and then people that i so I posted on my Barstle account at school and people told me to delete it. Not knowing that I ran the account, but people like delete this. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:19:24 you just need to do facial hair. You need to do, um, I could have done a lot of things better. You could have gone white face actually because you're more tan than I am. You could have put makeup on to get more white.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I titled the, I titled the picture Electric Avenue. Like I thought like I, like I, like I hit some crucial details.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Aaron has anybody Has anybody ever dressed up as you for Halloween? Yeah, yeah. Oh, you know, it's funny. There's this dude that was going around Houston for like a week, taking pictures with people pretending to be me, and people were believing
Starting point is 00:20:02 that it was me. And like some girl, I was getting them, and I was like, what the fuck is going on? And then some girls like, hey, so happy to meet you. She tagged me. I was like, ah, that's not me, fam. And it like blew up, and I ended up meeting her and taking a real picture where it was funny. I'm looking up the picture right now. Sorority Girl and Texan's number one fan tweets photo with fake Aryan Foster.
Starting point is 00:20:23 This is pretty funny. Like this guy. Yeah, I could imagine like it's walking around like, hey, are you Aaron and be like, yeah, I am actually. That actually trended this morning on Twitter. There was a picture of a guy's mother with Snoop Dog, and it was really an impersonator. And he posted and said, yeah, how do I tell my mom? this isn't actually Snoop Dog and it trended. Loll, I appreciate the love, but that's not me.
Starting point is 00:20:51 Yeah, you replied right to it. I wonder how many different girls. You think this guy has like any kids in Houston and like the girls think that you're the dad? That would not have been hit up by a lawyer already. Yeah, yeah, probably. They would have fucked that one up. Yeah. The guy does look fairly similar.
Starting point is 00:21:10 When he got short hair. The facial hair, the facial hair, I'd say. say is somewhat similar but no i i i think not similar enough to tweet that it's one of your favorite football players and you didn't know this girl very clearly did not play fancy football obviously we know that obviously that's funny though all right uh that guy should have gotten dressed up as you for Halloween though ever been fun that would been fun okay yeah and then here i see the picture of you posing with the girl uh who got tricked what was that interaction like when you met her, were you like, how you can't tell the difference between me and a fake
Starting point is 00:21:48 me? It was, it was, it was, uh, I think it was like big at the time. Like, that was when, like, there wasn't a lot of, like, Twitter interactions with fans or just internet interactions with fans. It was like kind of a new thing. And so, like, it was cool to just reach out to her and be like, yeah, you if you want a real picture, meet me here. And I was actually at a gym that I worked out at during the offseason. And so we'd have it. It was cool. She was cool. Has anybody ever dressed up like you, Big T? I would sincerely doubt it. I don't know. I feel like this is the year for Big T. I don't know. Just the one?
Starting point is 00:22:17 This the one? I think this is. I think this Halloween spooky season coming up. We got to get one person to get dressed. Actually, I will send you macrodosing merch if you dress up like Big T for Halloween. It's a pretty easy outfit to pull off. Yeah, it's not much hard. It's probably easier than yours. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Well, I would like to get that definitely not a murderer shirt on the merch. Yeah. Shit is amazing. Any news with that? with Scott Pearson's retrial? No, not yet. Not that I've heard. You played that pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:22:51 I don't get it. No, I'm just saying like you absolutely know if there would, if there had been an update. Yeah, I haven't heard. Your Google alerts would have gone nuts. Yeah, probably. I'm headed. I'm 100% serious. I don't care if I have to pay for it.
Starting point is 00:23:03 If there's another trial, I'll be there. I love it. Further duration. You're going to be our Nancy Grace. Yeah. Of Scott Peterson thinking that he's in a stuff. Updates after. what do you mean i don't care if i have to pay for well i don't know if i don't know if
Starting point is 00:23:17 barstool would pay for however long the trial would take but if not i'll i'll foot the bill i don't care i would i would love to see your your business model for why it would make sense for barstool to pay for you to know that trial the content that would come out of that would be incredible do you think so yeah i do yeah probably would actually it would yeah what would the where would the trial be i would assume northern california because that's where the first one was yeah let's do But we could take a scripted napple on the way. I'm getting finished. I could just imagine the comparison of Dave, like, at Tom Brady's hearing
Starting point is 00:23:48 versus, like, him at, like, an actual murderous hearing. You're right. I understand. Okay. First of all, a couple things here. I would hope that they'd have the same courtroom artists, and it's like Big T in the background with his face looking all, like, kind of postmodern in that weird way that they did Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:24:04 You look like to scream. Couple things. Number one, I don't sound like that at all. Secondly. No, that sounded nothing. like me. And he's not a murderer. He was convicted incorrectly of murder. That does not make you a murderer. He's not a murder. He was just found guilty of murder. Correct, but found guilty unjustly with no evidence. There is, there's something to be said for that. You can be, you can be convicted of
Starting point is 00:24:28 being a murderer, but not necessarily being a murderer. That's, that's a fact. You are not necessarily a murder because you were convicted of murder. But Scott Peterson definitely murder. All right. So either get dressed up as Big T or just get dressed up as Lake Lanier. Yes. For Halloween. Oh, you'll see there was a new Lake Lanier video. Yes, I wanted to mention that for, first of all, happy July 4th, everyone who had it. Thank you for buying all the merch. Looked awesome. A lot of people sent this that they bought the new merch.
Starting point is 00:24:53 You can still buy it. I still think it looks sick, like even the 4th of July. Great shirt. But we got sent this Lake Lanier video. I just sent it in the group chat. You got to watch the guy in this video. It's not even so much about the woman that falls in. It's just how casual the guy looks when she falls in.
Starting point is 00:25:10 He's just like. Take my beer. I got to go drag her out of this hole. Yeah, it's a couple of women twerking on the back of a boat. And one just falls right into Lake Lanier. It looks like she gets dragged. Like bottom, bottom tier twerking, by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Low effort. Yeah. And he, fuck, he didn't want to dive in after her. He said, oh, let me put my beer down first.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Let me make sure that I don't spill my drink trying to save this female. The other video, the huge houseboat just slowly going down and everyone jumping off yeah that wasn't even like a houseboat what was that it was a dock i think yeah i think it was a yeah one of those like double-decker pontoon style docks like a floating dock right and it's just going down and ever it's just it's like the tight i saw it with the tight with uh selina ensemble set to it was pretty funny did that person die in this video they slipped they slipped right by the motor because if those boats were moving if they're Are they going through the water at the time?
Starting point is 00:26:13 No, it's stationary. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, that guy was like, fuck that. I'm not getting in this. I'm not touching foot to this lake. So yeah, get dressed up as Lake Lanier for Halloween or Big Tea, whichever one. Or get dressed up as mad dog.
Starting point is 00:26:26 And that's just put on a shirt. Just we're close. Yeah. All right. Well, Halloween's kind of mass hysteria, isn't it, in a way? Originally. It's like we all just get dressed up as shit and then we go out and we expect people to give us candy. that's kind of weird
Starting point is 00:26:41 but the real mass mass hysteria events are like way more fascinating because they get into like psychosomatic stuff where your brain can actually make you sick which man that's it's fucking wild that's trippy stuff but if you're asking what is mass hysteria mass hysteria yep real quick
Starting point is 00:26:58 you know it's really wild and nobody really pays attention to and this is a little grotesque but I've always thought it's insanely weird that you can make yourself orgasm while you're sleeping your brain can do that. So the wet dreams, like, that's wild. Like, you could just orgasm by thinking about this shit. That and then, um, uh, pseudo, I think it's pseudosaices. It's where a woman can,
Starting point is 00:27:22 uh, think that she's pregnant and develop pregnancy symptoms. Her breasts can swell. She can miss her period. Like, it's wild, like just off of thinking about the shit. That's insane. Yeah. And, and sometimes women can be pregnant for like eight months and not realize that they're pregnant. and then just straight up give birth and have had no idea that must take i don't know again i'm not i'm not a woman um but i would imagine that you'd have to be pretty ignorant about your body to not know that you were pregnant for eight months i well i couldn't i couldn't i don't know what it's like to be pregnant so could be wrong about that i won't pass judgment on an eight-month-old pregnant lady unbeknownst to her there you go okay i take it back just get pregnant however you
Starting point is 00:28:05 want, deal with it however you want. I will never experience it. But what is mass hysteria? Mass hysteria is an outbreak of abnormal illness behavior that cannot be explained by physical disease. And it can affect people who would not normally behave in a certain fashion. It can exclude collective manifestations used to obtain a state of satisfaction unavailable singly, such as fads, crazes, riots. So we're not talking about swing music, although you could be like, yes, that was pretty fucked up in the late 90s how everyone just pretended that we were on big bands and were giant suits and then the gap had some fucked up commercials and everybody pretended that swing was cool again that's that's not included in mass hysteria it can be kind of divided into two different buckets
Starting point is 00:28:52 there's mass anxiety hysteria then there's mass motor hysteria mass anxiety hysteria is physiological symptoms that are consistent with things that you can get if you have severe So if you ever had an anxiety attack or you know someone that has, if you just felt anxiety, you can actually get dizzy from anxiety, you can get headaches, you can hyperventilate, you can have actual heart palpitations, you can throw up, you can pass out just straight from anxiety, and that's all your brain. That's your brain is essentially tricking your body into thinking that it has some sort of severe illness wrong with your body itself, but it's really just rooted.
Starting point is 00:29:34 in something that's happening in your brain. So it's your brain controlling all these symptoms. Also, it's like it can, it triggers the fight-or-flight response in you. So physiologically, like you, like, evolutionarily, it's a good tool to have in case, you know, there's danger around, but like your brain can actually send your body into that. I've experienced it many times in the last couple years. It's terrifying. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:30:02 I've had a couple of like borderline anxiety attack situation. I haven't had one for probably like 10 years. But when I was in my 20s, I had two separate instances of them. And my entire body just broke out into this weird like cold sweat. And I just felt like I had to go run somewhere. Like my body was restless. I couldn't sit still whatsoever. It was all based in my head.
Starting point is 00:30:26 And so that would be like there can be things that are mass hysteria related that are rooted in anxiety. certain types of anxiety. There's a second kind, which is more characterized by almost pseudo-seizures or just seizure-like events that can alter a person's motor function in a very specific way. So those are the two types of mass hysteria. And also, I thought that there was something weird about the term mass hysteria when you first started looking into it. If I were to just say the word, like hysteria to you, Arian. What do you think of when you hear the word hysteria? Like a Simpsons episode, like a house is on fire and everybody just running around crazy.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Like that's what I think of when I think of hysteria. Just pandemonium. Yeah, pandemonium. What about you, Big T? Yeah, I would consider it more mental, I guess, than physical. Like when you look this stuff up, you were talking about like physical symptoms of illness and things like that. When I hear hysteria,
Starting point is 00:31:31 I think like a bunch of people in an uproar about something, whether necessarily or otherwise. But yeah. What about you, Billy? Yeah, I think like hysterical people or like hysterical, just like basic, just like craziness.
Starting point is 00:31:49 So maybe I'm just the only sexist in this room right now. But I thought women, it's a term that's always used to describe women like oh you're being hysterical right like if you if you say to somebody like if they're being uh if you think they're being unreasonable and you're like you're being you're acting hysterical right now that's something that i usually associate with people using as like a pejorative term to talk down to a woman say it's a gas light it's a gaslight women it might be yeah mad dog my way off line in thinking that no also please speak for all women by the way okay um from all women actually
Starting point is 00:32:27 I did when I was doing my research for this there are like way more mass hysteria events that involve women more than men and people think it's like pretty much because women are involved in more it says women are involved usually in more stressful situations so they react with mass hysteria but I feel like in the middle ages
Starting point is 00:32:51 I don't I don't know what they were up to but I cannot speak for middle age timed women but yeah no I've been called yeah I've been called hysterical once or twice so the word hysteria actually I did some research on this
Starting point is 00:33:07 by research I mean I looked at Wikipedia Google the word hysteria originates from the Greek word for uterus hysterectomy right and I think a lot of times when you don't have an actual medical term to pinpoint
Starting point is 00:33:25 why somebody's acting weird, you can just be like, oh, you can dismiss it as they're acting hysterical. And if most of the doctors throughout history, at least until very, very recently have been men, they don't know necessarily how to diagnose something that might not be, or they're quicker to dismiss something as simply being in someone's mind if it's coming from a woman than if it were to come from man and was like a situation that a man had found themselves in. So whether that be like postpartum depression, that used to be something that women would just be dismissed as like, oh, they're hysterical for whatever reason, because it hadn't really been studied. And they said that doctors, to treat hysteria, Egyptian doctors would put strong
Starting point is 00:34:08 smelling substances on the patient's vulvas to encourage the uterus to return to its proper position. So basically, there's like any time a woman was acting abnormally, it's like, oh, your uterus is probably flipped. You got the old... Yeah, do they think it's like moving around? That's the catch-all problem that you're dealing with, right? Oh, yeah, if I've seen it once, I've seen them a million times, you've got a flipped uterus. Let's switch that sucker back.
Starting point is 00:34:34 The hiccups. Well, the theory on the whole thing, which we can get into in depth later, is that anybody with intense societal constructs around them that cause, like, conformity are more prone to these... to hysteria and to these things. And, you know, for example, it occurred a lot in the Middle Ages and nunneries who were put under intense, like, religious belief systems and stuff that, you know, caused hysteria. So this could be the common denominator that, like, shows that, you know, it's not women
Starting point is 00:35:13 is women being hysterical. It's that they're put under pressures that caused that. Right. That actually makes, that's very smart billing. We got to return a smart billy right now Because if you're in a nunnery Or is it called a convent? I don't know
Starting point is 00:35:26 It was called a nunnery. Nunnery is such a cooler word for it Sounds like a place that you'd find Like cute little birds But if they're in the nunnery And their life is very, very structured and rigid Then they have no form of expression really And so since they spend all day
Starting point is 00:35:42 Abiding behind a very strict set of rules It's no wonder that the uterus is going to flip over once or twice So There was one like event of mass hysteria that I saw I don't know if one of you guys talked about it but we're in a nunnery they all started meowing yeah yeah so
Starting point is 00:35:58 can we before we get into the individual ones we have can we talk because I thought I was going to be the only one that thought this but Aryan thinks it too so in my mind there's kind of two like under mass hysteria we have that right like nuns just start meowing and then the other ones do it and they keep
Starting point is 00:36:13 that's nonsense but then there's mass hysteria like war of the worlds where like something that people heard they didn't know what was happening sent people into a panic and caused them to do irrational thing that makes sense to me that's what i think of when i hear mass hysteria but like people like oh i hear somebody else meowing that makes me me meow no you're just a dumb person like that's nonsense dude big t i guarantee you if i locked you in a room with six nuns and they just kept meowing within a week you would think you were a cat that's nonsense i just that's nonsense no it's it's not
Starting point is 00:36:46 it's how the human brain works if you're trapped in an environment like that that's so unusual for long enough, you'll break down. So, you know, I think, I think we can attribute a lot. And like, so like, when I was young growing up, right, I didn't grow up Christian. I grew up Muslim, right? But, you know, I knew Christian cats. And like, I would go to their churches and like, motherfuckers used to like speaking tongues, right? And speaking in tongues was wild to me.
Starting point is 00:37:12 When I first heard it, I was like, what the fuck is going? I had no idea because I didn't heard of it. And so like, they just like, how much yabra, right? It's nonsense. But like, when you're in that. that environment and that church environment and everybody's filling it and it's that holy spirit they feel like it's and then you just start murmuring gibberish like that is a form of mass hysteria in my opinion right it's like you're doing it in the confines of that environment to kind of like fit in but then after a while
Starting point is 00:37:35 it starts to feel like oh this is what it's supposed to yeah i actually think that's that's like a perfect example because they're they've grown up in that environment they've seen all the time they've probably seen i don't know if not an aunt or an uncle maybe their grandparent like speak in tongues or somebody that's sufficiently moved by whatever the preacher's saying. So it would make sense to them that's a normal reaction to have. And so that's what I'm saying, Big T, if it was you and four meowing nuns in this room, I give it three days before you're begging for a saucer of milk. That's what I'm saying too.
Starting point is 00:38:07 Like those people don't start speaking in tongues because it like overtakes their body. They're doing because they're like, oh, everybody else is doing this. I'm supposed to do it. That's just a weak-minded person. or that's not like or a very social beat a very social creature that copies actions around it that's why that's a better the reason why that's a better way of explaining it that and just casting them this is coming from an atheist right but why that's better than just casting them off and calling them weak is because a lot of people especially in religion at young ages they feel
Starting point is 00:38:41 ostracized that they don't feel what everybody else is feeling and so they just fake it until they have convinced themselves that that's exactly what they feel yeah And then eventually they start to take pride in how good they are at speaking in tongues. And they're like, I'm really good. When I go off like this in church, I get a lot of attention and people look at me like I'm being moved by the Lord. And that makes me feel good. And then that reinforces that behavior. But I would even say that's also different than like the one I'm talking about the laughter epidemic where people just started laughing.
Starting point is 00:39:13 And then they see like that's the speaking in tongues thing. if you have a conscious thought that you're like the people that like my parents and family are doing this the rest of the church is doing this i'm supposed to be doing it and then that somehow becomes like routine to you i think even that's different than some of these other things but i don't know how to articulate what i'm trying to say necessarily why don't we get into the laughter epidemic because you know the listeners probably have no idea we're talking about okay okay so yeah mass hysteria events let's get started with it we each have one that we're going to break down here. Big Tee go off. This is the Tanganyika. Tanganyika laughter epidemic.
Starting point is 00:39:52 All right. So Tanganyika is, uh, was a country in Africa. It's modern day, Tanzania. Uh, so in 1962, there was a boarding school in Kasasha. And there were three girls who just started laughing. And, uh, it ended up like, this says 95 of the 159 students at the school. Uh, there were between 12 and 18. had symptoms where they just they just started laughing like they couldn't stop and eventually it spread from the school to like that village and the neighboring villages and like all around the country and even into i think some other countries in africa like people just wouldn't stop laughing that i don't understand that i don't really get it um they said it could have been
Starting point is 00:40:38 stress induced because earlier that year tanganika had won its independence and so some scientists said that maybe students were stressed by higher expectations from their parents and teachers. But yeah, so basically all the kids in this school just started laughing and they wouldn't stop. Okay, and it started with three. Now, at the exact same time, they started laughing? I think so. I think, like, I don't have a timetable for that, but it said it started with three girls and spread throughout the school. Hmm. Well, what I thought about this in looking through like this idea that pressures cause this behavior it's like think about when you're in school right and your buddy says a funny joke during class and you're just trying not to laugh but you can't
Starting point is 00:41:26 stop laughing then your other buddy starts laughing because you can't stop laughing but then after two minutes it goes away right but then your teacher yells at you and then other people start laughing so these are missionary these most of these schools were missionary schools so there was a certain level of strict discipline and sort of kind of like harsh like authoritarianism in these schools that probably one is used as a form of oppression but like prevented students from like showing their emotions and really restricted like this was something new that was probably in a couple of these um you know missionary schools across the world and you know we can talk about uh the spread of you know Christianity being this like very concerned
Starting point is 00:42:11 like oppressive thing and that's why they say that a lot of this was happening because they were so stifled to stop laughing that they just couldn't stop laughing because of this intense social pressure i like that billy i like billy's overarching hypothesis which is just like the more the more controls you put on people yeah the more their their body and mind is going to start to lash out it's like if you have a dog that you you just like makes it in a crate all day yeah the dog's going to go nuts, right? And they say that there was two sociologists that put forward this idea that it was a very culture-specific epidemic, but that was sort of, there was tones of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:55 like a little bit of like, you know, this is not xenophobia, but like a little bit of racism being like, oh, this is only happening in third world countries. But in reality, it's a product of oppressive program. that are probably not all like it's a different culture coming in like this insane like strictness then it doesn't it causes like a you know opposite reaction you know what this tells me is that these schools in tanzania had some weak ass assistant principals because this is basically the assistant principal's job if like two people start fucking around in class you call in the assistant and he shuts that shit down real fast.
Starting point is 00:43:38 He's like, I'm going to tell you, I'm putting you in my office. If you keep doing it, I'm calling your parents, like that whole thing. That's really what an assistant principal does. I don't even think they have a real job besides just disciplining kids. But that's like AP 101. That's the first thing that you learn how to do your first day on the job as assistant principal is like, oh, two kids are having too much fun in class. You better shut the fuck up or else your parents are getting a phone call.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Like I could have stopped that in about six hours How many assistant principals did you all have in school? We had like eight And all of them were like what you did They were just like assigned alphabetically Like A through J or whatever We had one per grade So in high school
Starting point is 00:44:19 Every grade had an assistant principal That all reported upstairs And they just they just Yeah those were the people That you were scared of not the principal Yeah principal is awesome It's their only job The principal gets to be your friend
Starting point is 00:44:30 The assistant principal or vice principal is the one that they have to play the heavy Good cop, bad cop. Did you have counselors? Like, we had counselors. Yep. Those were the cool ones. Principal and the assistant principal
Starting point is 00:44:42 was they were the... Deans. We had deans. Yeah, they would round them up. You guys had deans? Yeah, Dean. Private school. If there's one thing that college movies
Starting point is 00:44:52 have lied to this country about consistently is that the dean is the head of every university. That's both... Like, where the fuck do we come up with that thing? Because if dean is, you know, They're probably like fifth or six in line in terms of being in charge. It's always like the chancellor or the president of the university. There's really, I don't even think I ever met a dean when I was in college.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I think ours were deans were like you were the dean of a college, like the college of journalism, not like the university. Right. So there were like 20 of those. I had deans in high school though. Like it would be like, but they would, there was like a dean of student life. So she was like the bad cop. and there was a dean of academics and dean of like whatever so so big t did they tell you how they stopped laughing um i think eventually so they shut down some of the schools like they just said
Starting point is 00:45:41 this school they they sent them to like different schools i think it said 14 schools were shut down and uh over a thousand people were affected and so hold on was it was it like was it like uh they they couldn't stop laughing while they were together or like they were laughing on the way home i think it it started out like that but then it it spread to villages like they went from their school back home and then people in the village started laughing so like i think it was just like kind of an all-the-time thing so it was just like uncontrollable non-stop laughter for 24 i like i feel like there were also uh they were accompanied by descriptions of fainting respiratory problems rashes crying and screaming
Starting point is 00:46:20 crying and screaming while you're laughing i i could see the crying and screaming coming in when it's uh like if you are not feeling like you have have to laugh and you're in that town and everybody around you is just laughing for 24 hours, I might start crying. I might start screaming be like, what the hell is going on? I might feel like I'm the crazy person. And if you're if you're laughing for that long, you're probably that hurts after a while, like after 30 minutes of nonstop laughter. Like I've had like those are some of the best times of your life, right? Like for those of you have had best friends out there, like when you have like an inside joke with your best friend and you just die laughing for like a minute
Starting point is 00:46:56 minute and a half straight and you just and then you look at them and then it starts right back all over again like those are some of the greatest times about time what what you're saying is they started laughing and it didn't stop for days like I think uh symptoms lasted from a few hours to 16 days you see that and that's where the cap comes in yeah I would I would like more documentation because like in order to laugh that long like think about it that's a hell of an ab workout right they had to go to sleep at some point so like they woke up and just started laughing again. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Starting point is 00:47:27 Yeah, and this one, I just, when I started researching all of these, it was like, they're all from long time ago. There's summer that were now, right? But they were just like, man, you can kind of cast them off. But like the ones from a long time ago, like the further back and the less documentation and the less evidence than the more obscene that they were.
Starting point is 00:47:48 And so it's like, I find it hard to believe that human beings have laughed for 24 hours straight. Like, I just don't see how that physically is possible. I agree. Yeah. At some point you have to, like your body would just kind of give up on you. You'd just be too tired to laugh anymore. And if you really did laugh for 16 days, like, you're just, yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I don't know. About to get real philosophical here for a second. Maybe not philosophical. That might not be the right word. But what is crazier if you're just thinking of like, okay, what would you, what is really more of a hysteria event, a town that's laughing? for it's called 48 hours nonstop or a town that straight up goes to war against a town that's right next to it and they all slaughter each other what's what's weirder depends what the reasons for the war are because i would say i i would say because like noise complete straight up
Starting point is 00:48:42 straight up like murdering each other nonstop war war's probably a mass hysteria event isn't it yeah yes i think yeah that's fair yes because it's hot take though logistically it makes no sense I mean I guess it goes back to like human emotion like you get mad about stuff this is ours this is not yours I feel threatened by you so therefore I have to eliminate the threat but just the act of like having completely you know totally different societies murder each other nonstop that's in order to get everybody in your society like on the same page and be like hey we all agree that we're going to go to war against these people because they put the butter on their toast butter side down like doctors. Seuss used to say, that to me feels more like a mass hysteria event than just cracking up for a couple days. I mean, I don't think that's that hard of a take. I would categorize religion and the majority of like expansion politics as mass hysteria
Starting point is 00:49:44 as people just trying to find a way in a region as to why we're here as well as justifying the insane shit that we do. like it's wild well almost everything that we do i guess could be considered weird by somebody that that isn't a part of our society like if you let's just say we're born in japan and you hadn't seen you hadn't been exposed to anything outside of like japanese media uh maybe you grew up in like a real traditional environment and then you came to america and people are like trying to shake your hand and shit you'd be like wait why why why do you press the ends of your arms next to each other and then and then squeeze on them when you introduce yourself with somebody that might
Starting point is 00:50:22 That probably feels like a weird thing. Like every custom that we do, I guess, could be considered mass hysteria. But I guess the difference in this- Domesticating dogs? Yeah. Hell yeah. Listen, if domesticated, if that's mass hysteria, then consider my uterus flip, man. Because I guilty is charged on that one.
Starting point is 00:50:43 All right. So Big T. Has there been any follow up on this in the last, you know, several years? Or is it just kind of one of those things? It's like, it's over. let's just hope that it doesn't happen again yeah i don't really uh i haven't heard anything from it uh recently other than uh just the most popular hypothesis is a form of mass psychogenic illness uh which is basically just the scientific term for mass hysteria uh some said tainted food sources could have caused something um
Starting point is 00:51:12 but yeah other than you know what we know about it i don't i don't think so did they try putting any unusually scented oils on anyone's vulvas i can't speak to that but you you know more about that than I do. Okay. Yeah, the tainted food supply thing. That's something that Billy brought up last week, right? When you were being a good journalist? Yeah. Well, you know, but Zah's story was thought to be an example of mass hysteria because it was the belief, all these children were so rattled that they had seen something in this idea of group think in the, and actually, if we want to look back, so I did some really deep, like, looking into this in the animal kingdom to kind of see if so further than Wikipedia. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:02 So, like to see, like, if this is a thing, there's got to be some basis for it in evolution. But let's take, like, for example, you know when you see someone throwing up and makes you want to throw up? And even though you have, you may have not even eaten the same thing as that person, you still want to throw up. it's because hypothetically if you're in a tribe if you're in a group of uh you know family members or you know like a like a tribe like if you're all eating the same thing if you don't throw up the poison and if someone else is throwing up you're more likely to survive starvation from not eating what's in your stomach then uh if it's poisonous okay so this was a survival technique so copying behaviors so for example if you hear
Starting point is 00:52:51 you know if you're a baboon and you see another babbooms yelling snake snake and like running away you're going to run with him it's like do you know that youtube prank where you see someone run around the corner and they do it to suspecting individuals and people like what's what is he running from you don't know so you just start running the other way with him yeah so it's it's there is like like evolutionary like because we are social animals and that's probably one of the reasons why We're at the top of the food chain and, like, you know, are dealing with, like, space and stuff. Like, we're so technologically advanced because we had this group think, this, like, copying others like monkey see, monkey do. What about yawns?
Starting point is 00:53:35 Does that explain when I see somebody yawn? I want to yawn? I, like, I guess that means, like, we should stop for the night. Like, I don't know. I don't know what yawns mean. Like, we're on the road. Smart Billy is tapped out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Because yawning, I've always been. reflexive. I've never been enough interested to look it up, but like it is the most pointless action that we do as human beings. You just open your mouth for an extended period of time. I was told because you were lacking oxygen in the brain. Yeah, I heard it's like an air
Starting point is 00:54:05 thing. Yeah, like you're trying to take in more air for your brain. So why is it contagious? Matt, Matt, Doug, look that up. As for yon contagion Giordano said it may be related to a phenomenon called social mirroring where organisms imitate the actions of others. Yeah, but we're trying to figure out why that might
Starting point is 00:54:21 be maybe it's like it might just be demonstrating empathy so when you see somebody do it's no different from uh and again i'm going to go back to all the different like criminal psychology and interrogation videos that i've been hammering on youtube i've basically been butt funneling that entire series and it's i can't get enough of it but you do you match somebody's body language if you have good rapport with them no matter what so they'll put to a detective in a room with somebody uh who's suspected of committing a crime and then they see which of his body languages that the suspected person is mirroring because they'll typically mirror at least one, usually two or more of them. And if they're not, it means that they're consciously thinking to themselves about how to be
Starting point is 00:55:03 carrying their bodies. And it means that they're more likely to be guilty because they're thinking about how to appear or not guilty. Does that make sense? You're getting a lot of ammo to Big T right now when he gets interrogated. Yeah, I am. You need to watch those videos, Big T. The bottom line is just don't talk to police officers.
Starting point is 00:55:19 if you're in an interrogation system. Never ever say anything without a lawyer. Yeah. So we yawn, okay, so doctors aren't fully sure. So we yawn to regulate our brain temperature to wake our bodies up, to bring more oxygen into our bloodstream and to keep your lung tissue lubricated. But then experts are not positive on why yawns are contagious
Starting point is 00:55:42 and they say what they think is because what Billy said, it's like the social mirroring. but it's only contagious in certain higher order animals. It's like us, monkeys, but they believe that it's a sign of some internal state of mind communication. I used to always try to get Leroy to yawn by yawning in front of him. And then I would always feel like I did that. He could make me yawn, but I don't think I ever made him yawn. Who's Leroy?
Starting point is 00:56:12 Leroy was my dog. RIP. RIP. That probably makes you happy. Very good boy. uh it's not that i i i'm not happy it's just i don't care that's almost worse no i get it i actually i get it erin like you're ideologically consistent which i respect also psychopaths don't get the contagious yawn if you yawn at someone and they don't yawn back it means they're a psychopath according to like look at me big t i've actually been watching this whole time to see if somebody
Starting point is 00:56:43 yawned because I wanted to see who has the weakest brain of anyone here just like talking about yon. Wait, you think that's weird? You see how he thinks? It's a weak brain. We're like if you're talking about it. Reli on each other and you think it's a weak brain. I do big tea. I do. I'm we should try to get our listeners right now into mass hysteria. You think we could do that? I bet how many people do you think started yawning when we talked about well let's I bet it was a bunch. I started. I did when we started talking about it. I saw billy did too. All right. Let us know if you yawned. to let us know if you yawn back to that also let it just let it go we you can actually like give
Starting point is 00:57:19 people rashes if they just think about rashes actually you know what we should do just think about lice just everyone close your eyes and think about lice out there if you're listening to the sound of my voice they're crawling right across your scalp at the very root of your hair so you can kind of feel it tickling right at the base of that hair where it runs across your scalp right at the crown of your head too maybe you might have a calic back there um maybe you might have a calic back there um Maybe you've got some gel in there, but you can almost hear them crawling across. So now everybody's got itchy heads. So I think I just, that counts as mass hysteria, right?
Starting point is 00:57:52 Actually, we kind of did this already. Remember when he talked about scabies on that one episode? And then a bunch of people kept DMing me and we're like, yo, my ankles are itchy and my wrists are itchy. And there's like red dots two next to each other. Like, is that scabies? Like, how do you know if you have scabies? We used to, we used to call that the hebi-gibis. I don't know if you got to, but like when you start talking about bugs and little bugs,
Starting point is 00:58:12 you start to get out itchy and shit. My friend just got scabies last weekend. Yeah, dude, scabies awareness. Like, it's, you, like, you can catch them, like, digging in a ditch when you're working excavation or, like, like, they're worse than bedbugs. Yeah. So specific. You got to come up. What's the color ribbon that we're using for scabies awareness?
Starting point is 00:58:30 I don't know. Like peach, like a weird skin color. Like magenta. A magenta ribbon for scabies awareness? Scabies are, they're hard to get rid of. Yeah. I'd also just like to toss an awareness for the shingles vaccine. get the shingles vaccine people i had shingles you don't want it what's the sign of shingles
Starting point is 00:58:48 have you ever had chickenpox billy yeah so you have shingles it's in your body right now it's chicken pox and so if you've had chicken pox it just lays dormant in your blood and then if you have like a stressful event pop up in your life then you start to get little dots on your side maybe on your back along your spine maybe one or two on your face like and it hurts like shit uh yeah No, that's just a zit. Billy's just got a, he's got pimple. Yeah, pimple. Could be a boil.
Starting point is 00:59:19 Could be ringworm. True. But no, that's not shingles. You'll know shingles if you have shingles. It's like the most painful thing I've ever had in my life. Oh, you had an outbreak? Yeah. So when I was like 27 years old, 26 years old.
Starting point is 00:59:31 And it turns out that my dad had an outbreak when he was 26. And my mom had one when she was like 30. So I guess it's like partially hereditary too, maybe. But if you've had chicken pox, you have. the shingles virus in your body, it just waits for a time to come out. But if you get the shingles vaccine, even if you've already had chickenpox and it's in your body, the shingles vaccine usually prevents you from getting shingles. I'm going to grab that because I definitely had chicken pox when I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Dude, it was the worst two weeks in my life. No doubt about it. I would go back in time and trade almost anything to just get Bill Gates personally give me that fucking vaccine. No question. There's just no reprieve from chicken pox. Like, it's like the worst shit in the world. like you can't lay you can't just everything moving hurts not moving hurts yeah every anything everything
Starting point is 01:00:18 hurts you know how i figured out that i had shingles was i was like why does my shirt hurt hurt so much when it touches my skin and then i looked and there was like it started to turn red so i took my shirt off and i laid down on the couch i was like why does this couch cushion hurt so much when it's touching my skin i thought like all my clothes had some sort of i don't know they felt sharp to me and yeah it was just bad two weeks anyways that's our shingles and scabies awareness breakout session. Magenta ribbons, magenta up. July is scabies awareness month.
Starting point is 01:00:51 So a couple of, you know, we were talking about modern. Like, is there, there's actually a lot of modern mass hysteria. And one that I'll point to that I think, well, you know, there was a psychosomatic disease on a United Emirates flight 203 in September of 2018, where 1006. of 521 passengers on a 14-hour flight report symptoms of a sickness. But you might also remember the 2016 clown sightings. Yeah, I do. Like, so people say that it may have been a ad for a new It movie, but turns out there was no actual viral marketing for the clowns.
Starting point is 01:01:39 And there's been saying that, you know, this was all dismissed as a case of mass hysteria. Like, I remember it was like, what year was it, 2016? Yeah, like 17, like people were posting pictures of clown videos, but those were all, it was all, but. It was just people making shit up to get retweets. It wasn't mass hysteria.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Right. That is mass hysteria. I think the first couple were like, legit, there are clowns out. Maybe they're advertisements for it. Maybe they're not. And then after people started saying, oh, shit, this, this clown content is going super viral, then they started get in on the game and make their own.
Starting point is 01:02:13 But I think the foes. Yeah. Yeah, once you hear other people talking about them and once you see it prevalent in the news, then people are more likely to make up their own. But yeah, I do remember the clowns back in 2016. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:27 That was a wild time. I just assumed that it was all viral marketing for it. Yeah, the great clown panic of 2016 has been perpetuated by pretty much everyone except actual clowns. Yeah, that sucks for real clowns. Yeah. Shout out clowns.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I don't get the hate for clowns, though. Like, they just not, I mean, because I mean, you scared up what you're scared of, right? Like, I have this massive fear of snakes. Like, I do not fuck with snakes. Like, that's the worst shit in the world. But, like, clowns are chill. They just, I don't understand why people are so afraid of clowns. I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Yeah, the clown panic stuff, it's, that seems to me like it's, you've heard a couple people say it on TV, like, oh, clowns creep me out. I've never been personally creeped out by a clown. I have. I don't understand. Why are they creepy? I fucking hate people dressed up in costumes Like
Starting point is 01:03:14 Yeah me too My biggest fear No where you can't see their Like their real face Yeah they can't see their eyes It's fucking bizarre My My biggest
Starting point is 01:03:29 My biggest fear is people who dress up Like in mascots like for sports teams I can't do it So like I never went to Disney World as a kid Because I couldn't I actually I hate I went to Disney World with my family
Starting point is 01:03:43 when I was a senior in college and I hate characters at Disney World I'm not like scared of them I just don't like them I'm scared of them and we went to a dinner that they didn't tell me it was one of those dinners where the characters come around and like talk to you and we'll not talk to you but you know no like make faces of the kids and they
Starting point is 01:04:02 Donald Duck just came up and like he just slapped his hand on my shoulder and it was just Donald Duck right here and I was just not I was not happy about it. I would pay good money to witness big TV at the character dinner. I have a picture of that somewhere. Let me see if I can. Yeah, please bring that up.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Actually, there's this supermarket in the New York area called Stu Leonard's. And they have like farm fresh milk. And it's like, you know, they sometimes have animals. Anyway, there's the stew, the cow. And they have this guy in a cow costume running around the store. And there's several people that I know who are terrified. And you know how supermarkets have those mares. those mazes so like stew the cow would come around a corner and just be startling as this
Starting point is 01:04:46 big cow and like little kids would freak out everyone would just start crying it was actually like a scene in the story and it happened the other day when i was there like as an adult and it's like why the hell like why are they who enjoys this because it just makes babies cry yeah i'm just curious billy um when you say like mazes and grocery stores are you talking about aisles no no you know how some grocery stores you have to walk through the whole store like to get because they make you basically walk through the whole store to buy more stuff yeah as opposed to like for the same reason they put milk and eggs at the back of the grocery store so the layouts of grocery stores are fascinating to me how they they have that shit down to a science yeah because you can't just run
Starting point is 01:05:29 into a store and buy milk yeah you have to go they have like the the they call real estate right like the real estate on shelves is very specifically planned out at most grocery supposed to make sure you spend the most money the deli's in the back and then like of course all the last minute things you might need are just right at the counter yep gum they are brilliant for putting gum because i am a sucker every time i'm gonna get some go all right big t just sent out the picture of him uh with daffy duck is this like a scottish daffy duck uh it was was it like their christmas outfits or something i don't know what it was it was at christmas it looks like he's wearing a Scottish golfer's hat
Starting point is 01:06:05 and then almost like he's wearing a kinti cloth around his neck. He's a little something for everybody. Maybe a little Kwanza vest. And then Big T looks exactly the same as he does right now. Well, it was only three years ago. Two and a half years ago.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Oh, yeah. Good point. Good point. Yeah, you do not look excited to be meeting the duck. Yeah, I was not at all. So back to the clowns real quick. I think it also might be a situation where if you look for clowns if you're if you have clowns on the mind then you're going to see clowns everywhere just like so for example i'm i'm driving a a jeep while i'm at the beach that's my summer driver that i've got
Starting point is 01:06:45 down there and ever since i have that jeep i'm seeing other jeeps everywhere and i'm like there's no chance that there were this many jeeps on the road before i got mine and i was pumped to do my very first jeep wave i did the jeep wave on the on the morning that i got the car and then driving around town for the rest of that day, I was like, this sucks. Like, I don't want to be waving. First of all, I feel like a fraud because I'm not really a Jeep guy. I just happen to have one for the month. Second of all, like, do I have to actually be doing this every 45 seconds? Is it rude of me to not wave at another Jeep on the road? But definitely rude. Yeah, probably rude. But I think it's kind of like the same thing. Is it the recency bias? Is that the effect that I'm looking for? Yeah. Or it's like when you think of something and then like you start seeing it all over the place. Yeah. Like there was this trend on tick. talk recently where people were just like being like does anybody has anyone felt like a sore throat and like but already been vaccinated or already had COVID and like and everyone's like yeah you're just having a cold like TikTok was trying to make up their own new illness like only they had was that the the spoon sticking to you no no it was not like anti-vaccine
Starting point is 01:07:54 anything it was just like kids being like yo I'm like sick yeah so that's a that's a real thing I add one more question for you the billy about Um, the, the social aspect of, yeah, just like, why do you guys think, you think it's kind of the same thing where you see somebody throwing up, you throw up when you, when you see people have sex, that makes you want to have sex? You think sex is a mass hysteria? Yeah, sex is mass hysteria too. Huh.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Well, with benefits. I wouldn't, I wouldn't categorize it as that for the simple fact of it's, it's, it's evolutionarily necessary for us to survive and so for that reason it's it's it's it's not it's instinct it's like but is porn mass hysteria no because it makes you want to have sex it could be well like think about this like i think you're stretching the definition yeah yeah we're just talking about porn now if if you never some porn makes me never want to have sex again but if you if you've never heard of like sex like would you know what to do no I think it's natural, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Yeah, it's instinctual. I don't think about it. Billy, did you have to learn how to have sex? Were you in sex ed when you were 16? You're like, oh, shit. Before you know, before you know, like what that's what is for. But like, like, think about it. Like, before you know, like, penis goes in vagina, like, do you really know how to have sex?
Starting point is 01:09:21 And what if no one told you that? I think it's hard. I think it's hard. I probably could figure it out. Yeah, that's fair. But would you? Yeah, I think so. I think about like this.
Starting point is 01:09:30 figured it out for many thousands of years all animals figured out there's no animal porn that they watch anyway that's for us and we're weird but like all animals figure it out eventually like it's it's literally written in your DNA but like if you didn't know like when would you figure it out I mean it look like I yes it happens but like if you isolated a man for his whole life in so you wake up this is how it happens bro this happens so you wake up right in the morning I don't know if this still happens to you but it happens to me you wake up you have an erection like that you're horny right that's natural you just you want to ejaculate women have the the same kind of deal going on where they they get horny right and so if you get two people
Starting point is 01:10:12 who are horny you're going to figure it out no matter what the circumstances are and if you both unbeknownst to you have never seen another opposite gender person or opposite sex person then you're going to figure out to put one and two together true I think yeah I think people can figured out. I think life finds a way when it comes to sex. Yeah, I can see you from there. But, Billy, back to what you said a second ago. I could see it from there. About how, like, there's people on TikTok just saying like, hey, does anybody else have a sore throat? It's the TikTok disease. If you use TikTok or whatever, like, you might have this and just convincing people that they've got those diseases.
Starting point is 01:10:49 That's a real thing that's happened in a couple different mass hysteria events. There was one in, I think it was Leroy or Leroy, New York. I don't know how to pronounce it, but it's spelled L-E, then capital R-O-Y, New York, there was a social media star that posted that she was experiencing Tourette syndrome or a syndrome or like different manifestations that could be construed as Tourette's. And then within the next couple days, there were like hundreds of girls in this town that started reporting facial tics and things of that nature. But it was just because they saw somebody. And everybody has, like we all have muscle spasms over the course of a day, whether it be on your face or like your hand or your leg or whatever it is but since they had just
Starting point is 01:11:33 seen a very popular person talk about Tourette's and what they were feeling they thought that every single tick that they had was Tourette's like so it was a case of them either giving into like some things that weren't even muscle spasms and like kind of exaggerating them or reporting every single little one that they were getting there was also another one that was in I want to say, hang on, let me pull this up real quick. This was in 1999, in Belgium, they had to close down a Coca-Cola panic, or a Coca-Cola plant, because there was a panic about people that were claiming to be poisoned by drinking Coke. And so Belgium and France, they banned all Coke products briefly there were hundreds of hospitalizations there were no
Starting point is 01:12:20 contaminations ever discovered and then yeah those are probably the two most similar things that I saw to like whatever's going on TikTok right now where it's just like things get in the news via whatever type of media you consume and then you think that you always have like you start looking at yourself and be like oh I'm feeling that same shit too so like a name for those pipe but it's like a hypochondriac right yeah apple contracts do that yep but you know this like emirates flight 203 two of uh the wait um two of the passengers actually did test positive for rhino virus which is just the common cold and i feel like in those tight quarters if people are showing like symptoms like it could
Starting point is 01:13:10 spread if like enough people are showing those symptoms for my understanding I'm understanding, though, plans are pretty well ventilated, and it's hard for things to travel around unfiltered. I could be wrong on that, but that's what I remember reading that somewhere. Yeah. There was, I think, a Portuguese television show called Sugar Strawberries or Strawberries with Sugar. And in that show, it was kind of like a Degrassi type show. Everybody at the school, there was like a big virus that went around, almost like a pandemic. And then amongst people that were watching that, you started to see, like, huge spikes in kids staying home from school because they thought that.
Starting point is 01:13:45 they also had this disease. They even called it like the strawberries with sugar disease. Yeah. Which was all mental. But yeah, if you see, if you see things in the media, I don't know about the thing on the plane, but if you see other people coughing, you definitely think to yourself, oh, shit, I might have to cough, too. So it's a good segue to if you guys want to continue on the ones we did.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Let's do it. I researched the Fatima. What is it called? The Miracle of the Sun in Fatima, Portugal. And this one was hilarious to me Because it has to do with like Catholicism right It's like really big in a Catholic faith And so a little background from it was in the spring of 1917
Starting point is 01:14:26 Three Shepherd children Claim that they saw the Virgin Mary appear And she they told her She told the three little girls that To come back at a certain date And it was going to be October 13th Or 17th 13 or 17th one of those
Starting point is 01:14:44 that she was going to come back and reveal like the miracle of all miracles and make non-believers believers and to come back every month until then and so they did and so they went back and told all the townspeople and it just started getting more steaming they thought it was like a political stunt from non-believers to try to like disprove the faith right so like she got they all got interrogated by religious folks, secular folks, like all right. So there's this big hype built around it. And so the day of, they, it was like 30, 40,000 people out there. They all showed up to this little town at this place. And the Virgin Mary allegedly appeared. And so the funnier part to be is that the Virgin Mary appeared and told everybody to look at the sun.
Starting point is 01:15:40 And so everybody's staring at the sun and you have conflicting reports subsequently, right? It had been looked at, but you have conflicting reports. Like some people said that the sun was like dancing and it was zigzagging in the sky. Various different lights and colors was in the sky around the sun. And she told the children that, well, what did she say she said uh that the chapel should be built here uh about me and the war but then soon and the soldiers will return um it's just hilarious to me that a celestial being comes down and says stare at the sun knowing what the fuck that could do to your eyes but um uh yeah so
Starting point is 01:16:25 like i said subsequently they studied you know people's accounts and and there were many conflicting some people saw the sun dancing some people didn't see the sun dancing some people saw a zigzag some people didn't um but uh yeah so that was basically it's called a miracle of the sun so they ended up building the chapel there and so like if you ask like a a catholic in that area and either now or for somebody who follows the faith they're like it hasn't been debunk there's no way science can't explain it um like all of those same um i think science can't explain maybe why you'd see a bunch of weird lights or you'd have trouble like looking at the sky and maybe seeing something that was holding still in the air
Starting point is 01:17:06 if you had been staring at the sun for a day. Like to me, that seems like pretty consistent. Yeah. Yeah. Not only that, they claimed that the sun got closer and that, because it was raining that day, it was pouring down rain that day, and the sun had got closer, and it dried up all their clothes and it dried up the ground. That was the wetlands there.
Starting point is 01:17:25 And so, but again, they had some people said that their clothes and the ground dried and some people that said that it didn't. So, I'm filing this under the big cap file in my cabinet that I think it's the same old religious tale that people tell. It's like, I believe it happened. So it happened. And all the evidence that suits my narrative, that's what I'm going to believe in everything else that discounts it. That's that devil. Portugal might be the cap capital of Europe when it comes to this sort of thing.
Starting point is 01:17:55 Because we've got, all right, we've got the strawberries with sugar thing. We've got this one. And then didn't Portugal try to claim Christopher Columbus too? Oh, yeah, at one point. Fucking liars. Yeah, they are the cap capital of the world. The cap capital. Ronaldo flops a lot.
Starting point is 01:18:11 He does flop a lot. They're frauds in World Cups. And what? He's a penalty merchant. He is a penalty merchant, yeah. And they speak Brazilian, not Portuguese. Is that true? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:26 They've just convinced us to believe that. No, I, you didn't know that? It's been a long day, dude. Wait, you know, I, I, I, I didn't, I didn't listen to what he was saying. Yeah. Do you not believe me? I get, I get it now. Just move on.
Starting point is 01:18:43 All right. It's been a long day for Big T. What have you been doing today, Big T? No, a lot of shit. Yeah? Like what? Name one, name one shit you've done. Did, I blog, then I had to do the Barstall athletes thing.
Starting point is 01:18:57 then did research for this show and now coming in here and doing this. Sorry, Big T, that sounds like it was exhausting. Okay, I resent that. Also, that's just, people just say it's been a long day when that's just a, just a term. It's been a long day. You have the best job in the world.
Starting point is 01:19:13 You look abnormally perturbed today, though. You look, is everything all right? Everything's great. Get better. This is, I mean, this could be a refuge for you, man. I'm here, bro. I appreciate the hell out of that. we're safe space for you big tea i know that you thank you snowflakes like yourself you
Starting point is 01:19:30 thank you a safe environment for sure talk about whatever you want for sure that's gonna hurt you definitely can i tell you right now i'm not a big joe biden fan either big t so he could lay it on me bro was it the war in afghanistan finally i think you know what i say that we give big tea our first big tea participation trophy for his participation in today he dealt with so much shit today. Big Tee, you participated. This is remarkably dumb. There you go. You're a winner.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Let's send him a magenta ribbon for Skabies' Awareness Week. Thank you. Just for showing up, you get a trophy, Big T. Everyone gets one. Everyone works now. Everyone gets one. You know what? That's why this country's being run into the ground. Participation trophies.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Did I ever tell you about Mark Schlereth, how he was used my Little League Baseball and football coach. Was he seriously? And basketball? Yeah, back in, way, way back in the day. And so, because he was on the Washington R words at the time.
Starting point is 01:20:34 And his son... Time on, time, time, time, time, time. He was your football, baseball, and basketball coach. It was mostly baseball and basketball. You had to know his son or something. Yeah. The way he was just following you around. Okay, but...
Starting point is 01:20:47 Yeah, yeah. That's weird. He didn't just show up and randomly decide to coach these teams. Although, as we've said on the show before, we could see Big T. absolutely doing something like that later on in life. But Mark Slareth was, he was actually an assistant coach because he had, you know, responsibilities for the football teams he was on where he couldn't, you know, he couldn't always be there all the time for every game. But he was there probably two practices a week, usually for the games. And we were a pretty decent team. We
Starting point is 01:21:13 came in second place in our little league. And I had him, we had Mark on the radio show. This was like two years ago when the Super Bowl was down in Atlanta. And he didn't remember me because I look completely different now than I did back then. And I brought out the picture, the team picture. It was like, hey, that's me right there, like second row next to you. And he was like, holy shit. He was amazed by it. And Mark is the last guy you will ever hear giving somebody round of applause for a participant.
Starting point is 01:21:44 He's like the head of the war on participation trophies. He hates it. He thinks just like you said, this is when America went to hell in a handbasket. And I was like, Mark, do you remember we came in second place? that year. And he was like, yeah, yeah, it was a really good team, though. And I was like, well, my friend Pat was on the team that won that little league on the Yankees. And he got a pretty good trophy. Do you remember that you went out and you bought everybody on the Marlins a trophy for second place that was three times the size as the first place trophy? And he was like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:22:19 things are things are different when it's your own kid sometimes also that's not a that is a participation trophy but I mean coming in second is different than like the kids who went 0 and 10
Starting point is 01:22:31 getting trophies you're the first loser Big T it's still trash no it is if you're not first your last but and the trophy was just it was ginormous but that's also a big dick move
Starting point is 01:22:41 though to be like first place trophy is we're going to make it three times bigger yeah well it was funny because like I still like Mark. I thought he was a great coach then. He's a nice guy now. It was just funny to see like, you know, sometimes you kind of lose track of these overall culture war things when you're
Starting point is 01:22:58 thinking about how you're dealing with your own kids. It's a little bit different. It's a little bit different when it's an interpersonal relationship or like a familial relationship. Is that even a word? Familial. Yes, it was. Nice, nice use. All right. Anything else about the sun craze? Like, no, just like what I said, subsequently it was studied. A lot of counts did match up. And we have yet to see a celestial event where the sun zigzags. So that would have been a one-timer and physically impossible to the known laws of physics. So I'm calling cap. Call it cap. All right. Wait, how many people were affected by that? There was like 30 or 40,000 people. I would say there was a dude that went and studied it for like
Starting point is 01:23:42 six, seven years. Obviously, I didn't read his whole report because halfway through research and us. I was like, this is stupid. But just in the the brief reading, I think maybe he interviewed around 1,000, 2,000 people, something like that. That's still remarkable, though, that you have 30,000 people saying that this thing happened. And it was all from three little girls coming back and saying, yo, I seen Virgin Mary on a hill, fam, like, she says she coming back. Y'all got to show up and they all showed up. Like, what? It was like the first club promoters of all time. It was like one of those. At some point, too, you got to, there are people that grew up in that town and you just have
Starting point is 01:24:19 to go along with the lie because that's your town's identity right now. It's like, yeah, we're the people who were blessed enough to see the sun dancing. The sun was like running a dig route through the sky. And we all were the only ones on the planet that were lucky enough to see it. And so you just got to go along with that lie. It's your entire town's identity, right? So I forgot, I forgot this little tidbit too. So one of the people, they, it's like, like the police when they investigate themselves, like they find no wrongdoing. So there was a priest that investigated it and found that the Pope saw the sun zigzagging from where he was. Well, I'm actually-
Starting point is 01:24:55 Story confirmed. I'm thinking about it. If you're just looking up in the sky and staring at the sun, you know when people are just looking up, they start to sway a little? Yeah. Yeah. So if they're staring directly to the sun, they start to sway a little. It's going to start zigzagging.
Starting point is 01:25:10 They all got vertigo, it sounds like at the same time. Like, shout out Coley. Shout out Coley. You should be here on this podcast to talk about vertigo. It was funny, Aaron, a couple of years ago, we had McShea come to town, Todd McShea from Scouts Inc. And he put us through like a little NFL-type combine. And we were all just like woefully unathletic. You can imagine just how bad our performances were.
Starting point is 01:25:31 But then probably the funniest part of it was Coley stepped up to do the vertical leap. And he was like, I can't look up into the sky to hit the, to hit the plastic bars because I have vertigo. so I'm physically incapable of looking up in the hair. And so he just tried to jump and hit the things without looking at him and completely whiffed trying to hit the vertical jump things. And McShay was like, I have to say this is a first for me, administering any sort of combine to have somebody's got too bad vertigo
Starting point is 01:26:01 to actually complete the vertical leap challenge. But yeah, Coley. There's no video of this? There is video, yeah. Yeah, we got some video of it. We'll send it to you. Yeah, send it to the chat. That's hilarious.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Coley's busy fucking right now. so he's not able to weigh in on verdict. No, he's definitely, he's definitely done by now. Yeah, definitely. Yep. Good point. You might be going back for round three at this point. I would be impressed.
Starting point is 01:26:26 I've been on weekend getaways. You get tired of that shit, man. It's like, what else can we do here? There are only so many holes, right? Flip your uterus upside down. Let's have some of the different. Yeah, let me get some of that back cervix real quick. so billy i know you worked really hard on your presentation today i did we're talking about
Starting point is 01:26:52 the salem witch trials and a little bit of which i just can i just can i just get you some flowers right quick billy yes sir every topic billy comes with this google document just amazingly put together and it's just i i hats off to you that's great yeah appreciate yeah well basically uh So there's been a lot of suspicions of women in history for hysterical reasons. So basically one of them is the Salem witch trials. So witch trials were a common practice in Europe as well as vampire trials and werewolf trials. They used to think that there's actually some great stories. Basically, if you dug up a body about like, they used to bury a lot of people alive by accident back when, you know, people were just being.
Starting point is 01:27:44 comas or knocked out and people would think they're dead that's why we have like wakes or uh you know where they display the body for a long time to make sure that the people are dead because sometimes they dig up coffins and there would be scratch marks on the inside or uh and then sometimes their teeth uh because of decomposition would appear like fangs and longer so this actually was a reason that caused people to think vampires were real and when you lack science you start to to create things, for example, you know, wolves attacking livestock or attacking people, and then they don't think it's a wolf. They think it's a, yeah, or a werewolf.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Wait, wait, Billy, go back real quick. You're saying that we use the term wake because it was originally put in place because the person might wake up. Yeah. And so you want to give like a brief period between when they're dead and when they're buried? Yeah, so that they don't get buried alive. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:28:41 I did not know that. Yeah, I actually may be totally wrong on that. but but they do that was the point they used to party yeah that's completely wrong uh the word wake in relation to death originally meant a watch vigil or guard it was used to refer to a prayer vigil usually held late at night or overnight where mourners would keep watch over their dead until they were buried yeah you just totally made that well no they keeping watch to make sure the dead don't wake up no used to refer to a prayer vigil where mourners would yeah i didn't actually know like when i said wake it was meant like they display the body like an irish wake you're like
Starting point is 01:29:14 Like, the caskets open. I know that, but I was just, the way that you put it. Well, you made that ascertain. I wasn't saying that I just was like, maybe I made it, maybe I'm the only one that made that leap when you said wake and then I thought that it made. Yeah, but like, I was like, yeah, maybe. So, but that, yeah, the displaying of the body, because and they have, sometimes there was like another ritual where they had the body on a table and they'd be partying around
Starting point is 01:29:36 the body. Uh, and hopefully it would wake them up. Finnegan's wake. You're describing the plot of the song, Finnegan's wake, where they spill rum on, on the corpse and then he or whiskey and he likes drinking so much that he wakes up from the dead exactly i might also be the book finnigan's wake i don't know i haven't gotten around to reading that just listen to the dropgate murphy's song so with all like you know this medieval europe with warwolves and vampires there might be witches too so witches were thought to bring a lot of the
Starting point is 01:30:05 harms um among you know if there was something bad happening in the village uh you know like crops didn't work out right you know someone's got erectile dysfunction it's the witch's fault so you know let's round them up and you know time to a stake and burn them uh this was a common practice it was actually you know terrible uh sorry you apologize i'm apologizing for the salem wish trials though uh but anyway this actually terrible sorry so you're saying like it could be explained by guys not being able to get a boner and they're like she's a witch that's why i can't get an erection yeah anyway so this got to north america in the early 1600s and caused by a lot of the um refugees from the uh american the french indian war which was really a war between the british and the
Starting point is 01:31:00 French, there was refugees that moved into what is now Davers, Massachusetts, which is where the village at Salem was. And basically, you just had a bunch of people with very low resources and a large population in a very strict puritanical population that was very, very religious. Now, as we pointed to earlier, you know, intense. oppression and sort of systyle constructs seems to be a common thread in these mass hysterias. So they started, so three girls basically started having what sort of what could be seen today is basically the symptoms of an acid trip gone wrong where they started freaking out, convulsions, they were found talking tongues going crazy, and basically they took
Starting point is 01:32:00 put three teenage girls named Elizabeth Hubbard, Dorothy Good, and a third who was actually... Was it Sarah something? I think it was... Why are you looking at that? You know it's funny about all these stories? Big T. Didn't your story had to do with three people? There was like three people?
Starting point is 01:32:19 Yeah, start out. Three's crowd. Three something. Like my story had three girls that saw Virgin Mary. There was three girls that the three wise men. Like, what is with these fucking? magical numbers that always have these weird-ass stories attached to them.
Starting point is 01:32:34 We should do an episode on numerology. Numerology is interesting shit too. It's like three, seven appears all the time, especially in the Bible. Seven's one of the numbers that it's almost like a recurring theme. And also one Caribbean-born
Starting point is 01:32:52 house slave was also accused of witchcraft. In any way, long story short, everyone freaked doubt started accusing of everyone of witchcraft. Unfortunately, the first person accused was the African-American slave because they thought it had to do with voodoo. There was a little bit of that tied in. And basically everyone just started going nuts and accusing each other of being witches. When it was all said and done, you know, there were tons of people
Starting point is 01:33:23 killed, tend to be exact, with a very low population, but tons of people accused. And actually, funnily enough, increased Matherer, the then President of Harvard denounced the use of spectral evidence to actually justify our current law system. It were better than that to have 10 suspected witches should escape than one
Starting point is 01:33:44 innocent person be condemned because of how many people had been tried and had been executed. And it was the first time in American history that we decided not to include dreams and visions as testimony. So when you're
Starting point is 01:34:00 significant other is mad at you for cheating in a dream yeah that is not allowed in the court of law because of the same witness trials that's happened to you too no it's that's that's definitely happened to me and i'll be like i have no why am i supposed to apologize dream dream me supposed to apologize but uh i don't know i don't know man i don't know it's a real feeling though you can't you know what it does it plants the seat i've i've had a significant other that cheated on me in my dream before and I woke up like you motherfucker I cannot believe it's a real feeling and you can never shake it
Starting point is 01:34:33 and it just stays there it's really weird very rational but it's very weird so this what I mean she ended up cheating on me later on so so hey this was the basis of a lot of you know the accusations of the same with child so interestingly enough they did find the fungus
Starting point is 01:34:50 ergot would be very typical to live on rye and wheat especially in the sort of humid, swampy meadows of near Salem Village. And this happened in the fall, and that was a staple during the spring and summer months. So basically, there is the idea that these girls could have consumed Ergot, which can have, you know, a psychological effect that's akin to LSD that might have caused this whole thing, or it could have been, you know, some of the laughing fits convulsions type thing occurring
Starting point is 01:35:30 and then having residual paranoia and then more of a clowns are coming after us type reaction. So, okay, I'm reading that 200 people were accused, more than 200 people were accused, 30 were found guilty. Right. Is there any chance that the whole town was tripping on LSD at the time and not just the people that were being accused, like even the people that were making the accusations or the people that were trying them? 100%. I mean, you could say, you know, once everyone's in groupthink, in the psychology of group think, which, you know, is heavily tied to this, you know, it's like a psychological drive for consensus at any cost that suppresses dissent in appraisals of alternatives and cohesive decision-making groups. So group think, you know, is the driver of a lot of all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:36:19 So it says that there was a man named Giles, Gills, Corey, who was pressed today. What is that? Yeah, they just, I think they put them between two boulders. Fuck, that's the, like, the least creative way to kill somebody I can think of. Yeah, and like, they couldn't find a rope. They were just like, there's a big rock over there. You know, like, I wanted to make this more about the mass hysteria. Maybe we could do a whole, you know, episode on the sandwich trials, but they also did stuff like
Starting point is 01:36:45 throw them in the water. And if they swam, they were a witch. But if they didn't swim, that means that they weren't a witch, but they're still dead. They're going to heaven, though. Yeah. They did them a favor if they drowned Just back to the crushing real quick In Asia they would crush people with elephants
Starting point is 01:37:00 That's so fucking metal Oh dude I heard this You know what they used to do in Vietnam And this may be a legend But they used to grow It was on Mythbusters They used to grow Tie someone up and have bamboo grow
Starting point is 01:37:14 Underneath them And the bamboo would go through them Because like nothing could stop Yeah Nothing can stop a bamboo bud growing and like impaled them to like prisoners of war that's just i don't know if you got to pick a way to go i feel like getting trampled by elephants might not be the worst it's probably over pretty quickly right i'd rather be trampled by elephants and have just like somebody puts a rock
Starting point is 01:37:39 on me and then i die i think fire man i think fire is the worst way to go fires yeah doesn't that isn't that supposed to like it burns off your nerve endings relatively quickly though and then you kind of don't feel it as much i don't know if that's true or not that it feels that may not be true i don't want a billy that may not be true i think the best way well what i mean pulled the what i was saying i don't know where the weight came from but it definitely that's why they watched the body to make sure it's dead i think originally that's like that's in that's a known fact best you can hope for if you're getting burned to death is that you inhale the smoke and it makes you pass out that's the best that you can hope for
Starting point is 01:38:19 yeah burning alive would be real tough so A bunch of people were accused. Did the people who ever did the trials and do the executions, did they ever get in trouble for any of this bullshit? Well, they recently apologized. Okay, good. So, and so did you, really. 1992, yeah, because, I mean, honestly. They apologized in 1992.
Starting point is 01:38:40 Yeah. In 1957, they absolved six people. In 52, they found six of them and said, okay, these six of them. and said, okay, these six were definitely not witches. We're still investigating the rest of them. But we know for a fact that these six were good. And then in another 45 years, they summon the courage to be like, hey, sorry for killing those six of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:07 So as of 2004, there were still talks about exonerating all of the victims. But they some think that it happened in 19th century. Yeah. I would like to see what the. debate on that was like this actually has to do with the law that Aaron Hernandez people here we go let's go no like you know the law where game yeah you know the law where they're like you can't um be convicted of a crime if you're if you die during proceedings yeah technically he was still during proceedings yeah it's because he was he had like an appeal
Starting point is 01:39:40 left even though he had been convicted he was still under appeal so technically his shit got vacated so I think because the stay on which trials never they never really reached a verdict they all just died through their tests that they were still on trial so right oh the george burrows well then you can never be technically convicted of witchcraft because either you die one way or you die the other way yeah right or you're yeah or you're actually just a witch huh damn all right uh day we could probably do an entire episode in seal on witch Strails. Yeah. For sure. Also, there's tons of stories from Europe of these, like, crazy, like, the origins of werewolves, vampires and all that. Yeah. So how does, how does a witch fit into
Starting point is 01:40:29 all that? Does a witch consider herself to be like a bride of the devil? Yeah. And we're not talking about the, the Wicca religion, because they call themselves witches too. Yeah. Right. These are falsely accused. Like the mark, they would basically, like, this is actually messed up. They would look for the mark of the devil on some of these young women and basically could be, a birthmark or some sort of mole yeah fuck yeah you'd be yeah they would definitely think I was either a witch
Starting point is 01:40:55 or a Labrador but they just have some dude be like checking over like so it was you know colonial America was very very weird what if what if one of these women had just been like you know what I'm a witch well that's what they ended up doing um the uh one of the
Starting point is 01:41:13 accused basically stated that they had been met by the devil and told to sign the book of the Antichrist and basically a lot of them these were a lot of false confessions and that were just because you don't think she actually met the devil
Starting point is 01:41:27 she could have but yeah I like to think of my witch is like hocus pocus one of the all-time great Halloween movies absolutely just friendly you want to do their spells don't really bother people too much Sabrina the teenage witch
Starting point is 01:41:46 also a great witch my mom says she's a witch all the time oh your mom says that she is a witch yeah do you believe her she used to tell me she had magical powers when I was little she gave birth to you
Starting point is 01:41:56 yeah I could see witch-like tendencies for sure I actually had a homeboy who had a girlfriend who was who told him confessed to him
Starting point is 01:42:05 that she was a witch and that she had put a spell on him that I guess would allow him not to like cheat on him or or also it would like make him fall in love deeply and never with anybody else.
Starting point is 01:42:21 Um, that shit's fucking crazy that I was like, you need to not be with her much. You're like, that's probably not a good look. I don't know anything about this relationship, but I can assure you the sex was fantastic. I, and you know what? He said it was. Yeah. Yeah. No, just I'm getting the vibe from her that.
Starting point is 01:42:37 She also tried to stab him later on. Okay. And that was a fun I told you so moment. Uh, but it was a wild. It's like a real life praying mantis situation where you're going to have a lot of fun and then she's going to try to cut your head off right afterwards. I'm not sure if it was following that. Crystles, leaving crystals in the car.
Starting point is 01:43:01 Yeah? Your mom used to do that to you? No, but that's what people have been doing recently. You didn't do what? It's like a TikTok trend. They're like, I found crystals in my car. Like their girlfriends are leaving crystals in the car. like that's a prank
Starting point is 01:43:16 no like a who knows it's just a ticot trend it's a ticot trend it's a ticot trend you think dana patrick did that with erin rogers yes for sure she she's got crystals everywhere yeah for sure so i'm reading up on the medical theories about the seal in which trials think people do tend to agree with billy
Starting point is 01:43:34 that it could have been from rye bread have they tried to recreate the lSD and the rye bread i think many try to concoct psychedelics I think they definitely could. They also say it could have been an epidemic of birdboard encephalitis, lethargia, and sleep paralysis. And some modern historians are less inclined to focus on biological,
Starting point is 01:43:56 preferring to explore motivations like jealousy, spite, need for attention to explain the behavior. I mean, I think you could probably explain a lot of it just like if a dude, back then, in a Puritan society, if a dude is mad at his wife for whatever reason, he sees like accusing her as being a witch as his like get out of jail free card no matter what so a lot of times it's projection so the dude could get caught cheating on her or doing any sort of other immoral thing and then he could just be like hey if you if you tell anybody about this I'm going to say that you're a witch or I could just accuse her being a witch and no questions
Starting point is 01:44:30 asked it's like that problem's out of his hair so I could see I could see jealousy and spite playing a big factor here for sure in one of the one of the main suspects to the villagers was Tootuba, who was an enslaved South American Indian woman for the West Indies. And she was likely a target because of her ethnic differences. I also, it's just genius to be like, oh, I can't get a boner. It must be because you're a witch. Because it's the dude, not only like putting all of his faults onto her, but he's also saying, like, my penis is so smart and in tune with the universe that I can tell that you've had, that you've made Congress with Satan. And my penis will not go anywhere close to that.
Starting point is 01:45:12 He's the original gaslighter. Yeah, for sure. She was probably like, I think I am a witch. She probably had no idea that poor girl. She was like, all that she'd been told about sex, she didn't have Billy or a seventh grade health teacher to teach her about it. It was like from her mom. And her mom was probably like, yes, honey, if he doesn't get an erection,
Starting point is 01:45:30 that's because Beelzebub's living inside your vagina. And so that poor girl probably went to her death thinking that she was actually a witch. I would have loved to have taught her otherwise Bonk All right That's good Billy, good job Yeah Except for the wake thing
Starting point is 01:45:48 I didn't There's science behind that I'll write a blog Science Yeah science Not science They literally They would accidentally bury people all the time
Starting point is 01:45:58 Yeah no I believe that Yeah So they literally would like party around the bodies To make sure that they didn't wake up And that's why it was called awake because they might wake up. They were trying to wake them up. Right.
Starting point is 01:46:10 Yeah, were they trying to wake them up? I just, Billy, you just lied a second time about the exact same. I didn't lie. I didn't lie. I just, I'm not, I'm saying like to make sure that that I'm not sure that it's called a wake for that reason. Billy, Billy, Billy. It's okay to be like, you know what? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:46:27 But I know that they would, they would lay the body out in order to make sure it's dead. Billy. Yes, that's true. A lot of ego. A lot of ego here. I don't know. Okay. I'll let go.
Starting point is 01:46:36 I'll let go. All right. Good job. You could be right. But probably not, but probably, but I don't know. Good job, Billy. All right. I'm going to get into one real quick. And then I know Mad Dog has a fun one that she wants to touch on at the end. So the one that I want to discuss real quick. It's actually one that I had not heard about despite the fact that I lived through it in 2001. So in 2001, there was starting in October. There were children in elementary and middle schools across the U.S. starting. in Indiana. I believe it started October, first week of October in Indiana, October 4th. There were people in Indiana middle school that reported that they were dealing with rashes and they were having itchy skin. So the skin would break out in hives and it would only be while these kids were in school. And when they get home, the symptoms would disappear. It started in Indiana. It spread across the country. country. The next one was in Northern Virginia. This was at Marsteller Middle School. I don't know
Starting point is 01:47:42 where that is. Marsteller Middle School in Northern Virginia. And Hasmat Cruz actually came in. They went through the building. This was right around the same time as Anthrax was first being reported. So it was right after, it's about a month after the 9-11 attacks. And it was right as anthrax was being found in various like congressional office buildings and things like that. And then in January and February, the rash is turned up again. So over the course of winter holidays, the kids would go home and there were no reports of any of these rashes or things like that. So back in January and February, it turned up in Pennsylvania. It turned up in Oregon. And it turned up, yeah, let's see, the superintendent of schools in Quakertown,
Starting point is 01:48:27 Pennsylvania reported that there were 238 cases in nine different schools. And so they're trying to figure out what's going on in these schools. They had environmental testing. They had all sorts of crews come in and test things out. And let's see, in Oregon, it started on February 4th at Abraham Lincoln Elementary School in Medford. This was right on the Oregon, California border. And they noticed that there was a group of second grade girls, eight to ten from the same classroom, had flushed looks on their faces, necks, hives on their arms. And, uh, This kind of, it spread from coast to coast, and there were so many different cases of it. No one ever really figured out what was going on, but the closest explanation was that it was environmental-induced stress and anxiety from 9-11 and from always feeling like their country was under attack.
Starting point is 01:49:26 If you remember, it sounds kind of like ridiculous to think that kids in, you know, southern Oregon are getting rashes because they are. are afraid of 9-11 happening again or because they watch 9-11 unfold on TV. But at that time, we were being told, like, on the news, especially if you were a kid and you were watching the news at night with your parents, you're being told, like, whatever the tallest building was in your hometown, you were being told that was a target by terrorists and that it could happen like any day that they might blow your shit up. And so it would kind of make sense in retrospect why there were kids that were so stressed out about it. But that's the official explanation is 9-11 induced anxiety on kids that gave them a psychosomatic reaction
Starting point is 01:50:10 to feelings associated with trauma that permeated the United States at the time. That makes perfect sense. And we had one of those, right? So I grew up in a town or a city called Albuquerque, New Mexico. And I didn't notice until 9-11 happened. Moms came and got us from school. And then later on, they were saying we was one of the main targets in the country. And I was like, bro, we're in the middle of nowhere.
Starting point is 01:50:32 What the fuck were they went over here? But apparently there's like nuclear shelters over there. Also like there's like hidden and this could be kept, but this is a real thinking that there was like hidden laboratories and stuff for nuclear testing sites in the mountains, stuff like that. Actually, actually one of the first nuclear bombs was I think it was like in Los Alamos actually. It was like in New Mexico. They tested it out there. So we thought we were definitely prime targets for terrorists. It's like there's a lab out there.
Starting point is 01:51:03 for sure. And so like that's what I saw somebody on the news the other day talking about how somebody who was in Milwaukee was saying that they were they were told growing up that terrorists were also targeting Milwaukee because it's it's got a nice sea front. That's a strategic level of importance for like importing and exporting goods to Canada. And it's like, yeah, you know what? You're right. Milwaukee is under attack. We're all under attack. And then once once the anthrax start happening, then kids would see that on the news and they'd think all the time, oh, shit is my arm itchy and then the kids would tell their friends at school like oh my arm is today and then a kid would hear that they'd start scratching their arm next thing you know there are news trucks that pull up to their school and then every kid in the school is talking about yeah there's this itchy rash thing going around and now you have like one small itch on your arm and you start scratching the hell out of that as a kid and then that turns into a rash because you scratched it it's kind of like a self-fulfilling prophecy that's that just kind of like took place across the entire country over the course of a couple months, and then it just
Starting point is 01:52:05 kind of went away. I think you could really wrap all of these up into self-fulfilling prophecies, like mass hysteria. Like, there's some, like, initial event that happens that's going to be foretold what's going to happen, and then it happens in a really non-convincing way subsequent. We got to do an episode on Nostradamus, too, and his prophecies and how you can take anything that he ever said and apply it to whatever's going on. I might actually try to gamble on NFL games using Nostradamus.
Starting point is 01:52:34 You know that's the name of my gambling hedgehog? Yeah, yeah, that's the, Billy's got a hedgehog named Nostradamus. Yeah, he's coming back for NFL. I love it. Can he be in your apartment? Yeah. Are you sure, Billy? Did you tell your landlord about your hedgehog?
Starting point is 01:52:50 Technically, under Mayor Bloomberg's 2004 referendum after a tiger was found in, you know, one of the like a project apartment with a crocodile, like, you're not allowed to have exotic animals. Is hedgehogs, are hedgehogs exotic? Technically, but I don't live in a borough where that's valid. Okay. Hedgehogs are exotic, huh? Yeah. Did you base your housing situation on what the residential laws were governing hedgehog occupancy?
Starting point is 01:53:24 Yes. Okay. Yeah, that's what I figured. That's smart, though. You're growing up because a former Billy would have just lied to his land. landlord, which you probably did anyways, but a former Billy would have tried to move into a borough that had these laws and effect. And yeah. So where you live, can you have chickens? Uh, chickens, but not roosters. Also, can you bring me eggs? No, because the chickens are in a good place,
Starting point is 01:53:47 but also you can't have a ferret in New York City for those same laws. Yeah, I've heard about that. Yeah. Billy, just bring eggs in next week. That's one job. So yeah, that's, um, that was, that was my case of mass hysteria. And there's really no, I don't think, even have a name for it. They just called it like post-9-11 anxiety and hysteria. I feel like that's just like coping with trauma. It's coping with trauma and it's also just kids watching the news every night. And that was a scary time to watch the news when it was like, okay, anthrax, it could be in any building that you go to. And also every single town is under attack from terrorists. I was convinced that terrorists were going to like shoot up my
Starting point is 01:54:23 shopping mall when I was like a sophomore in high school. Because in those weeks right after 9-11, everybody was so paranoid it was like it's it's going to happen anywhere like we it was it's hard to describe the mindset that we were all in but we were like force fed all this fear and shit and uh it turns out that like not really any of it ever happened it's kind of crazy the war in afghanistan is technically over as of today i think did we win the guy stepped down we all got participation for trophies okay that's that's kind of fucked up no i'm sorry no it's true but uh you got a driver You got driver's license? You pay taxes?
Starting point is 01:55:01 Yeah. That's your participation. You participated in the war. No, I mean, no, I'm a big fan of the troops. But it was like 20 years and I'm 22 and I just like some of my earliest memories are of watching the today show and seeing like just like war footage. Like on like the early morning news. Billy, you can be a fan of the troops but also be like, hey, I'd like for you to not get killed. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:28 And the longest war in our nation. sister. Sure. I think it's actually, that makes you a fan of the troops. Perfect. Yeah. I just don't want people get pissed off. No one's pissed actually, Billy.
Starting point is 01:55:36 We know that Billy's a troop lover. Yeah. All right. Well, that does it for my thing. Mad Dog, you got one last one to add? I do. All right, before we get into the very last topic of mass hysteria, I want to talk to you guys about Roman swipes.
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Starting point is 01:57:08 So basically, like, if you ate the wrong type of bacon, your penis would shrink. And so it required a concerted effort from the Singapore government to educate the male population about their genital organs and convince them that their conviction was not and could not be true. Oro means shrinking penis in, what do they speak in Singapore? Would that be, is that Tagalog or no, that's Philippines, right? It's not Singaporean. Language. But it's interesting because the message that they're sending is like you can't, that
Starting point is 01:57:49 takes a shit on everything that Jenny McCarthy's tried to do with her like anti-vax stuff going back to last 20 years. they just took her stuff and kicked it up to a notch that she could never even hope to attain which is if you eat something that's been vaccinated your dick's going to fall off and she's just she's really just kind of pussyfooted around the whole thing like that really emasculates her malay malay they speak malay or mandarin so uh did anybody's penis actually disappear No. So basically there was no proof that any of this was happening. So people in the United States in Europe called it genital retraction syndrome. So people like basically if like again, I cannot speak for men so you guys can let me know if this is true. But like when it's cold and like your balls. George Stanza. Yeah. Yeah. Retract. Well, I think that's because it needs to stay.
Starting point is 01:58:47 warm and closer to the body. Yeah. Well, yeah, but I think that's what they were thinking, like, and it was irreversible, which in fact, it was reversible. So. It also just could have been like a bunch of dudes with tiny dicks. Right. Being like, oh, this shrank.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Then their girlfriend sees him naked for the first time. He's like, oh, my God, it just shrunk must. You made me that fucking pork, ground pork for dinner with the vaccinated pig. This is your fault. Yeah. So the word is from melee. and it means head of a turtle, referring to how it looks when they retract their head into their shells. And their episodes usually last several hours.
Starting point is 01:59:26 So it's like a reverse, like boner. Yeah, reverse boner. So I think we figured out. I think it was just guys with small dicks. Yeah. So they kind of like, it's not usually the small babe, I swear. No. They like kind of were like related to body dysmorphia where sometimes like people, if they have bodies morphia,
Starting point is 01:59:45 I think their bodies look way different than they do. So, like, you think your penis is way smaller than it actually is? Or, I mean, it's just you have a small dick. But in addition to retraction, other symptoms include a perception of alteration of penis shape and loss of penile muscle tone. I don't know what I, I, do your penis muscles just make a boner? I don't think I have a muscle in my dick. I don't know. I think you have to.
Starting point is 02:00:08 I never worked it out. We're one of the only animals without a penal bone. I thought you could. There's not a bone You can fracture it But there's no bone Oh like it's a cartilage Yeah it's something
Starting point is 02:00:19 It's like a tendon That you can snap You snap it And then it's apparently Like super painful Who's the famous person In the broke group dick Or is that in a TV show
Starting point is 02:00:29 John Boba guy's dick cut off Oh no Sky Pippin He fractured his dick No Rodman Rodman Oh Dennis Robin Scott and Pippin
Starting point is 02:00:40 Had a hog Allegedly Still alive Yeah Probably still does. Yeah, yeah, Dennis Robin Fractions. Johnny Knoxville broke his dick. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:50 Mm-hmm. But it also apparently can happen in women with their nipples for their nipples. They can invert? Invert, I guess. Yeah. But apparently it's because, like, the victims are known to have pre-morbid sex inadequacy and sexual promiscuity guilt over. masturbation and impotence so basically like it sounds like an excuse so like yeah sorry babe yeah
Starting point is 02:01:22 like you pfc said sorry babe my penis is usually not my penis is usually way bigger than this i promise i got coro yeah yeah i thought i there was like another episode that that happened in the early 2000s i think and some people like like all over the world yeah it so like back to the over our, basically a lot of the cultures stressed, like, fertility and masculinity through their penises and that, like, fertility and, like, basically this pressure caused this sort of outcry. I think, I mean, if, if, like, a guy that I was seeing was like, sorry, but it's usually not like this, but then they think it's irreversible.
Starting point is 02:02:06 So then it's like, well, it is now. Yeah. Well, there were also a bunch of guys that actually. did injure their own dicks trying to pull their penises out because they thought that it was retracting and so then they so they tried to like like I read that they put clothes like they'd use clothes pins and like oh yeah try to dig their penises out um and then they'd actually give themselves a severe penis injury yeah trying to fix their dick they would was not injured they would anchor it with a loop of string or some clamping device like yeah that's just like artistic that's just you're
Starting point is 02:02:40 making a mobile at that point it's called a pendulum so would like you know how when you were like if you were like a short kid you would like hang on the monkey bars to try to like make yourself taller and like elongate is it like the same thing yeah pretty much you're just but yeah you're tying a weight around the end of your dick trying to pull pull it down like you're trying to have gravity do some work you're like there's surely more penis inside my body than this this can't be everything I was given let's see if we can't do a little excavating here and then you end up just like having an unusable dick for the rest of your life. Apparently, I don't know
Starting point is 02:03:13 exactly where, but people who don't wear clothes, their penises are actually longer because they're not wearing, like, underwear, they're not, it just hangs all that. Like that, what's that? That's like the, that's like the women who don't wear shirts or anything, or bras.
Starting point is 02:03:29 It's the same thing. Is that, no, is it? It's in, like certain tribes. It's like an actual thing. What's that tribe that we talked about on that episode the other week ago where they don't have human contact? Oh, the, uh, Central Lees Islands. Yeah. Maybe they have big dicks. Sentinel's islands. They might.
Starting point is 02:03:42 They were close? I just look at it like iceberg theory. You look at, you look down at your penis and you're like, there's probably 90% of the dick that's not showing. If only I could extract, you know, half of that, then I'd be, I'd be working with an absolute hammer right now. Big T, you've been pretty quiet about this whole penile retraction thing. What's on your mind? Yeah. Philly's say it again.
Starting point is 02:04:04 What you work with? Well, we might get a Spotify contract. What? We keep talking about peaches. Oh, yeah, yeah. I like it. This is, uh, we might get, keep it going. Call her daddy too.
Starting point is 02:04:16 No. Macro daddy. Macro daddy. Macro daddy. All right. Tune in next week. That should just be the title of our episode next week is like nine steps to make your dick four inches longer. And then we just make up shit.
Starting point is 02:04:31 And but people are like, you know how many dudes out there think that they've got was this co-ro? Co-ro? Yeah, we'll capture that in Tyro. audience right there'll be like finally a podcast about how to make my dick bigger yeah and then step one will just be like jack off yeah but and it says right on on our trusty wikipedia page about coro that a 15th century European manual for witchcraft investigations relates to stories of men claiming that their genitals had disappeared being hidden by the devil so that they can either be seen or felt so basically like if you were hooking up with a witch your dick's going to disappear
Starting point is 02:05:07 Oh my god I love Dudes rock man Dudes are so undefeated When it comes to just like Explaining away everything that's wrong with their dick By just blaming it on a woman Sure
Starting point is 02:05:20 I mean But but that they like The people that were claiming that the witches Made their dicks disappear Also didn't know about the The Coro So they just like said that on their own So there's like different stages of it
Starting point is 02:05:34 Do you think that there's a Any sort of correlation to some sort of STD and then well there was the the David statue thing where it's like well because these guys are in like they're anxious and scared about the situation that there it was like you know the David statue that he's about to go fight Goliath and like why is it like not you know he why is he a grower not a shower you're saying that's scared the statue of David as a small dick yeah there's actually a thing on it do your dicks get small when you get scared it's like a
Starting point is 02:06:08 when you're in the pool yeah they retreat they retreat they were like there's sport mode yeah there is sport mode yeah I'm yeah you David was in sport mode it makes sense because it's like that's less of you to grab for for an opponent it's protected yeah you become more aerodynamic too I can run way faster
Starting point is 02:06:29 it was the original Nike pro combat jerseys just making it like super tight so that you can't get held so it's like scrotum tights up into underarm And then, yeah, you can, listen, I'm way faster. Have you ever tried to run with the boner? Almost impossible. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:45 Yeah. Wait, no, I can't ask that. I'm talking about. What we're going to ask? Well, you realize by saying that now you have to. Do your penises wrinkle, like, fingertips in the pool? If it's in there, yeah, you're in the water for a long time. It's not at its maximum.
Starting point is 02:07:00 I don't think so. I don't think so. Not like fingertips, but I think just in general, like your skin, your skin gets dehydrated all over your body. But it's not like fingertips, though. Right. It's not, like, do they look like raisins? No.
Starting point is 02:07:15 No, my penis has never looked like a raisins. They definitely like turtle up, but they don't, yeah, they don't wrinkle. All right, well, that's, that was, I'm glad that you brought that one up. Coro. I'm going to follow that in the back of my head next time I need an excuse. I got the coro, baby. All right. Do we have anything else we want to get to this week?
Starting point is 02:07:35 that was a good episode. What a show. Oh, UFO. I got DM from a Navy pilot through a burner. So like, I love this. I love when people say that like, you know, I'm a secret top like in, but anyway, basically a lot of guys in flight school have been seeing UFOs. And it's like a phenomenal in the past, like 20 or 30 years when they got new equipment
Starting point is 02:08:01 that they were seeing these drone size objects moving in such a way. that were like round and he says that it's so commonplace and everyone just decides to like you know talk about it but not talk too much about it and it's the general consensus that it's probably a domestic project and in order to gather information on how other aircraft would react to the drones that um they're testing it on u.s pilots yeah i got a similar dm to that too yeah so basically saying that it's our own technology yeah and um The reason why it's primarily been found amongst, like, in places that they know that U.S. war plans are going to be flying is because they're trying to monitor how we respond. Like, how would a pilot respond to seeing UFO?
Starting point is 02:08:48 Yeah. This is a theory. I found it through a burner, so you can't take it with a grain of salt. I should make a burner and just, like, DM Billy, random. See, if you can get, if you can sneak one by him. Yes. I think you can probably get that done. All right.
Starting point is 02:09:05 Cool. anything else follow us on instagram so we can get to 10k biogus first follow us on instagram instagram instagram macro dosing follow us on youtube smash that subscribe button on youtube and uh erin what color underwear is big t wearing you know he's like in a rotation of three so i think i'm gonna go with um we'll go with blue navy blue i i switched it up on him today i knew you would you son of a bitch what is it would you go up the strap is Navy blue. Oh, I didn't wear the ones I thought I did.
Starting point is 02:09:39 They are striped, but it's like two blue. It's blue. Yeah, you got it. Let's go. I thought I did red and blue stripes. That's my first one since like week two, bro. God, damn. It's been a minute.
Starting point is 02:09:50 It's episode 20, by the way. Is it really? What? Happy 20, guys. Happy 20. Feel free to give us suggestions about future episodes. We came up with a couple of ideas today. What was it?
Starting point is 02:10:03 Numerology. Numerology. I'm with that one, actually. That's fire. There was another one that we... Like explanations for monsters in medieval Europe. Yeah, we talked about that today. Like vampires, werewolves.
Starting point is 02:10:13 Yeah. Lochness. It's actually some pretty... Should we do... We got to do a cryptid episode. Like, cover-ups, conspiracies, cryptids. We haven't done any cryptids yet. Bigfoot.
Starting point is 02:10:25 Yeah. The abominable snowman. Nessie? The one that's up in... Like, champ. It's just Billy, the reservoir that you swim in. That's just... All right.
Starting point is 02:10:37 We will see you guys next week on macro dosing. Macro Daddy. Macro Daddy. Tune in next week on Macro Daddy. We give you eight ways to make your dick four inches longer and 30 seconds or less. Guaranteed, probably. Improve your circulation. Nitrous oxide levels.
Starting point is 02:10:55 Love you guys. Oh,

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