Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - MBS & The Saudi Royal Family ft. Felix Biederman

Episode Date: December 1, 2022

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the crew welcomes back reoccurring guest Felix Biederman from Chapo Trap House to talk MBS and the Saudi Royal Family (1:24:39). You'll hear everything you need to know about Mohammed bin Salman. Also, a draft of the best smells. All of this and so much more on today's show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macro dosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Welcome back to Macro Dosing. It is Thursday. It is pop quiz. Is it December 1st or is it November 31st? December 1st. Big Tee?

30 days has September, April, June, and November. So it's December 1st. We made it. No, not November's over. Today's the 30th. What are you talking about? Not when people are listening to it. Oh, shit.

All right, well, my bet. Congratulations, if you're listening to the sound of my voice, you were free to come. Just, it's, it's National Come Day, December 1st. Let's go. Let's go. And, you know what? I was going to jump into an ad read. I don't think that the company would appreciate sponsoring National Come Day.

So I'll wait on that ad read. But it is December 1st. It's Christmas tree season officially. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas. We're saying it again. It's nice. Nice to hear.

It's great to hear. Is Starbucks doing the right cups, or are we mad at Starbucks? I think they got rid of the right cups a long time ago. They did? I think. I remember that, man, we were real pissed off at Starbucks for like a week back in 2017 for some reason. I forget why. I think their cup didn't say Merry Christmas on it, right?

Said like, happy holidays, let it snow. Something like that. I don't remember. I don't frequent Starbucks enough to know about the hot clip. I remember that. I saw this dude. He went viral on a clip because Starbucks didn't say Merry, Christmas. They're Cups didn't say Merry Christmas. And so he got coffee and it was like, what's your

name? And he said, Merry Christmas. And they're like, what? Merry Christmas is my name. Yeah. And he's like, he's like recording the whole thing. And then when they caught him like Merry Christmas, he's like, ha, I got you. I love that guy. I yeah, no, like respect. That's a dweeb. That's a solid move. Tricking, fucking dork, tricking Starbucks workers into saying Merry Christmas. Hell yeah. That's what I'm talking about. It is the holiday season, and I saw Christmas trees for sale. I walked through a Christmas tree corridor the other day, and I just breathed it all in. It smells wonderful. It's my favorite smell, one of my favorite times of the year.

How much do you guys think that Christmas trees cost in Manhattan? We might have talked about this last year. You probably a big jump? Yeah. Or just in general. Like I'm talking seven to eight foot tall, Fraser fur. You get the fresh cut on it. $5.75.

I'd say 500 to a wreck. I was going to say 200. I think I... A thousand? Browder, these trees are getting out of ham, bro. How much was it 50? Well, I haven't bought mine yet, but I did buy one. I've bought them in years past.

I'm pretty sure that they're in the 350 to 450 neighbor. No, that's crazy. Yeah. All right. God damn way. So, Rieke's for the season, though, you know? Yeah, listen, do you want to be a Grinch? Who wants a real tree in their Manhattan apartment?

I had one. You can't beat the smell of a real tree. I don't play with anything like if you have a house. Fabriz beats the smell of a real tree. That's not true. That's not true, Aaron. Okay. He'll teach his own nature boy.

You don't like the smell of a Christmas tree? I don't hate it, but to say that you can't beat the smell of a real tree is kind of you're reaching. It's one of my favorite smells. No, I'm down with that. I like the smell of a Christmas tree. Do we start? Yeah, we did start, Billy. Sorry.

It's okay. Totally blank. Giorgio Armani Cologne. Acco Dezio? Oh, that shit. That shit slaps. Way better than a regulatory. When I was a kid, I was probably, I don't know, 10 or 12.

I really wanted Aqua DeGio because they had ads in Sports Illustrated. And I was like, that shit looks cool. And so I got, I think, the Cologne and, like, the body wash for Christmas. And I was jacked. Did you ever used to- Oh, they got body wash? Oh, yeah. Yeah, no, they have everything.

You ever used to take, like, the ads and rub them on your shirt? I would always smell them. Yeah, I used to rub them on my shirt before I went to school. That's what magazines were a thing. Do they still make that? Is that scent still a thing? Yep. Yeah, oh yeah, that's what I use.

I might buy some more of that. What do you guys think are the all-time goat scents? This was actually a voice now that I was thinking about putting in the best smells? The cherry marker with the, I forget what company is shirt. Are we talking about colognes and perfumes or just smells in general? We're talking just smells. Markers. No, it's not Expo, though.

It's a specific company. I got to find it. All right. Are we going to go top three? Everybody can't jump in. Everybody go top three. You go first, POT. You don't want to positive discussion.

Geez, no, I don't know. I mean, popcorn, just one of the all-time grates. It's a true classic. I'm okay with that. I got the number one, though. Okay. I'm going to go popcorn's up there for me. Cool water.

I was always a cool water clone guy. In fact, I would like, why are you making that face? The cool water was like. Not you meant just like water. I was like, what is that? What the fuck? No, Cool Water Cologne. I'm talking about the, you know, the classic.

Billy's assembling the sign behind us if you're wondering why it sounds like there's a construction project going on in this room. Okay, so I got cool water. I used to actually buy the fake cool water from 7-Eleven when I'd walk to school back in middle school because I didn't have the money to get like, you know, the real stuff. So I'd buy the fake cool water at 7-Eleven for about 999. And to me, it smelled like the real deal. everybody else thought that I just smelled like turpentine. So then my

third, I'm going to go with this is tough actually. This is tough for the greatest smell. Peanut butter. What? Really? You guys don't like peanut butter? I don't dislike it. It wouldn't crack my top three. Nah, I think that's it's mid, like it's like, oh, it'd be, it doesn't

smell bad, but it's not like on my list of things that smell amazing. I'm getting distracted because Billy's making all this noise behind me, I'm sorry. You know, as crazy as I can I can't even hear it. So let me, let me reconsider. I agree that peanut butter is,

peanut butter is a good smell, but I don't think it's an all-time great smell. So let me just reconsider real quick. For my third choice, all-time great smell. I think, you know what? I like,

I like the smell of like autumn. I don't know if that's burning leaves, like a fire in the fireplace. Awfully poetic. But I'm not mad at the fire smell because Fireplace. I don't think it's necessarily the smell that smells good, but it's the memories that come with it. I'm with you. I'm not mad at that one. All right. My top three. My top three is number one, all-time greatest smell, indisputable, is bacon. With bacon's cooking,

it's just, it's like a drug. It smells so good, dog. The sound too coupled with it. All that. Oh, my God. Also, in the same culinary aspect, I'm going to go with potatoes, but like when you're frying them, like either hash browns or something like that, that's just an all-time smell as well. And when you got potatoes cooking with the bacon, it's just a great morning. And then lastly, I think this ain't necessarily specific smell, but you know it because you've smelt it.

When you in love the first like four or five months, whatever that's significant of the smells like, that's the it just gives you butterflies that's a great smell puppy love yeah that's a good one that's yeah i don't know about you guys i can still if a girl walks by and she's wearing the same scent as like a middle school girlfriend of mine used to wear i immediately flash back and i could i could spot that anywhere whoa what it could have went bad it could have been bad what billy can we turn billy's mic on is it

oh yeah no no he's not on he's not on yeah he's here I think can you hear me now perfect I think sense

are the most easily attainable things to get from like yeah sense I can put with memory so easily yeah

like people always tweet about the scholastic book fair and it's because of the laminate type smell on a lot of the books and on the

catalog yeah shout out the scholastic book fair whoever was in charge of Scholastic that got their books in every single school in America and turned every elementary school student into like a little salesperson for Scholastic books, that person deserves a fucking raise. What a great job. I mean, the book fair was the greatest week of the year. It was awesome. I used to just, I used to always get like comic book books, like comic strip

books, like a Calvin and Hobbs book or something like that. They always have some of those. This is, you know what I did with this classic book fair? You could actually, in the padlock by sea monkeys and i tricked my i told my parents i was buying a book and i got a sea monkey colony to the scholastic book fair it's very own brand and i brought it home and my parents were like what the fuck we were giving you money to buy books and then i just had this sea monkey colony that i had for like a while only billy could figure out how to like trick his parents at a book fair into buying reptiles well there's sea monkeys there what are they're different i think they're a small crustacean oh okay i don't know yeah but you guys know what i'm

saying about like a girl that you dated a long time ago somebody else walks by you wearing that and you're like oh i recognize that immediately right right high school middle school perfumes i'm not around people who wear them anymore i don't know if they're specifically designed for middle school girls i think they're just perfumes that my girlfriend gets what i'm saying in middle school happened to be wearing It's like the juicy. It was, I think it's the way you framed it. You was just like, man, when you're walking down a street and you get a whiff of a middle school girl. No, no, no.

I'm talking about it. It's like an adult woman walks past you and she's wearing the same perfume that a middle school girlfriend used to wear. You go back in time and you're like, I recognize that anywhere. Yeah, no. That's facts. Sorry some of us dated in middle school. You versions. pf t riz god in middle school i was um the riz was out of control in middle school it was

giving pete davidson in middle school you know i got up to it happy feet two what's that oh the movie the movie did you touch a boob during happy feet too i don't know yeah you did yeah you did not have brought that up if you didn't it was awful i read his hair It's only, but Play-Doh, too, takes you right back. Yeah. Like, uh, Plato's a good smell. Plato, Plato's one that you don't, like, it's something you don't smell at all nowadays. So when it hits you, you get back to a total mental, like, you know how they say psychedelics,

revert your mind back to childlike, like place it, like childlike activity where you're just generally happier. Like, Plato probably does that. Yeah. When you smell it. Oh, the beach. The beach is a good smell, too. I hate that fucking smell. Yeah, I bet you do.

You guys are missing. Oh, this is a sign felt. This is a sign felt, the smell of the beach. Let's make a perfume based on the beach. It's a good smell. Also, I think everybody has the smell and it's different for everyone, but your grandparents' house. I was going to say that. That's a good smell.

I think everybody's is different because I don't think every grandparents' house smells the same, but you know that like when you smell, when you walk down like a hallway, and you're like, wait, that's my grandparents' closet that I'm smelling right now. That's where they kept the linens, yeah. Yeah, mothballs, flour. My grand mom's house smelled like flour. Enriched flour. You guys are missing the biggest one. My number one hasn't been said. Oh, you go ahead.

What's yours? New car smell. So mine's not new car. It's new shoe. Okay. Yeah. I got these shoes a couple weeks ago. I opened them and just I planted my face into the shoe.

I fucking love the smell of new shoes. You face fuck the shoe. Absolutely. I bet that Bronco's felt pretty good when they got delivered. I'll change my number two. My number two. Yeah. Change that.

New shoes, no. Tushay. They gave mine away, though. Ridge wallet gave it away, my Bronco. They did? Yeah. Who got it? I don't know.

But they just took it from me. Damn. I mean, good for Ridgewallet. Yeah. Yeah, well, we love our spas. We do, yeah. So if you want your chance at winning Avery's next Bronco that he gets, his makeup Bronco, go copper Ridge wallet.

I, uh, my top three, I got a weird olfactory. type of thing going. I love to smell a new blacktop. Okay. I don't know what it is. Just love the smell of brand new blacktop. When they just lay a road, just lay a parking lot, just lay a driveway, walkway, blacktop is the best smell. It smells hot to me.

Yeah. It always smells too hot. I'm taking gasoline over blacktop. Gasoline is a number two for me. Yeah. A lot of people like gasoline. I'm not a big gasoline. I could associate with my bad takes, all the air in my brain, but it smells really good.

I don't, I've never been a huge gasoline guy, but I know that it's a pretty common thing that people love the smell of it. Gasoline definitely better than glue. I think we can agree. Sniffing glue? I love. You like glue? I'm going to back out of this take before I get too far into it. Airplane glue?

What's airplane? What's airplane? Model airplane, like the real strong adhesive. No, I like the small of Elmer's. Oh, you could drink that. Oh, God. Okay. Well, I didn't.

What? Okay. That's what you can drink it. Were you going to say you're supposed to drink it? No, you can. It's for kids. Kids can drink it. This is teaching us a lot about Billy.

I've never. I want to drink. Don't drink glue. Look, if you didn't taste Elmer's glue as a child, I honestly never tasted. I never did. You never tasted Elmer's glue. I did not taste.

It's non-toxic. I know it says non-toxic. You were that. There's a lot of kid. There's a lot of stuff that's non-toxic. Billy. You didn't just like stick your tongue in it. I was a kid. I went to elementary with a kid who used to like sniff Kool-A packets and shit like that. You're that kid, bro. You're that kid. Like sniffing Kool-A packets. They smell good. I did do a line of piri-peas seasoning in

Qatar because there's no drugs over there. There's not a lot of alcohol. We had Thanksgiving dinner, which was just an assortment of foods that we bought from the local McDonald's. And one of things they had was a piri-peer packet. And so I just did a line on Thanksgiving table. And just to get the buzz going but I've never never once even considered drinking glue and most people say eating glue so when Billy says you can drink that that implies that Billy like took the cap off and then turned it upside down like it was a flask okay when you were around a lot of Elmer's glue when you're like kindergarten like church preschool or whatever like Elmer's glue is everywhere and you're telling me that that gooey substance that like poured and was just as white as can be pause look

like it had like a cow on it so it kind of looked like milk you thought it was milk this guy I'm just saying you never like looked it I never looked it

no I knew it was glue the wildest I ever got with glue was I would occasionally put some like on my thumb and then would you let it dry let it dry and then you peel that shit off yeah that was fun

I would do that with that was normal I would do that the whole back of my hand Erin so you never drank glue that's never been a part of my desires. I hated milk, too, so maybe that's a part of it. Like, I, I've maybe had a cup of milk my entire life. Milk is disgusting to me.

Wait, you've only had a cup of milk? Yeah. What about chocolate milk? Collectively. Rarely, I just never, milk is not good. It's probably why you got injured so much. Milk, yeah, I mean, the soft tissue injuries. I mean, makes sense.

Like, no, it's, I actually, I didn't understand this, but it turns out milk doesn't vibe. with everyone like it does some people. It's true. I didn't realize that. You mean the lactose intolerant? Girls don't drink milk. Confirmed.

Yeah. Girls don't do it. No. That's why I don't poop. Yeah. I don't poop and I don't drink milk. Yeah. And I don't drink milk either, actually.

Yeah, girls don't drink milk. Milk also, I didn't know this until I was like 12, 13, but most Asian people don't drink milk. That's a very broad statement in Asia. In Asia, it's extremely common to be lactose intolerant. Except in Mongolia. Tons and tons of people in Asia are lactose intolerant. There's not a lot of cheese. There's not a lot of milk that's been eaten traditionally over there and not a lot of ice

cream. So when you introduce that to people's diets, it just runs right through them. Well, it really depends on which cultures had hurting because hurting cultures usually started drinking milk from their herds. So, like, Mongolians, sheep herders, horse herders, they actually make vodka out of fermented horse milk. Mongolians drink a lot of milk. Interesting. And certain parts of Africa that have herding cultures, they can drink milk, but other parts can't.

But, like, my family always was very lactose tolerant. So, like, ice cream was always eaten, like, milk was always drank with cereal. But, like, I didn't know that not every. but he could tolerate that much milk. So according to scienceabc.com, 90 to 100% of adults in East Asia and 80% in Central Asia have an impaired ability to digest lactose.

Yeah. So it's pretty true, yeah. Native Americans also. Oh, yeah? No milk. I did not know that. Yeah, because Native Americans, Lact. dose tolerance. I'm pretty sure because they, because their cultures, they didn't

domesticate any milking creatures. What about almonds? Can you drink almond milk? Okay, people who call almond milk, like almond, like, whatever that is, it isn't milk. Does it have mammary glands? It's white. Well, you could call it almond glue. Actually, you know it was a really cool experiment that I liked in we were like in I think it was chemistry. If you take olive oil and put it in water and then blend it up, it turns white

like milk. Oh, crazy, really? Yeah. So when milk is like just oil and water blend it up and that's what it looks like. So if you take any type of oil canola oil and then blend it with water, it's

going to get that white milky look. Okay. I'll have to try that. I'm going to try that. That's on God. You're like, like glue. Yeah. Today's episode is going to be on Muhammad bin Salman, MBS, and Saudi Arabia in general. I'm actually very excited to talk about it. So we can get to it maybe like quicker than than usually. And we've also got a special guest joining us. It's Felix. It's Felix from Chappo.

He was also our guest for the Havana Syndrome episode. And so he's going to join. He's a massive fan. He's a big MBS. fan. I don't know what they call themselves like the fan boys of NBS. MBS heads. MBS heads. Yeah. What's that K-pop K-pop band? BTS. BTS, yeah.

NBS Army. Yeah, he's in the NBS Army. Yeah, he's in the BTS Army. Okay, so we've got the MBS Army. But now they're in the actual like they're in the actual army now. Wait, what? Like, oh, the Korean. Oh, Korea has mandatory service. Mandatory service.

Oh, there was a kicker on my football team who had to go home and do that. Yeah, Israel has that too. But yeah, so BTS is on a break right now because they're serving in their mandatory military. We also didn't mention Sharpie smells good too.

Sharpies are my list. There was, y'all like the y'all like the shit that when you sniff it, fucks with your brain. Like, gasoline. Can your smells do that? Bacon? No.

It makes you want to eat it. A new shoe as long as you want. All day. Your shoes got some. glue in it. Sharpie's always been good. I bet you guys like, you like paint, huh? You like paint?

Like, you like smell of paint. I've never, no. No, paint doesn't really hit. I like the smell of cocaine. I think that's a good one. Does that even have a smell, I wonder? Like, is cocaine, like, does every type of cocaine smell the same?

Or can people tell the difference between Coke that was made in, uh, in like Columbia versus Coke that was made in Peru? Hmm. Oh. I don't know. There's not different types of Coke there. Is it?

Coke is Coke. Yeah, right? It's like original. But I mean, it is grown in different places. So like if you get your Coke from North, South America versus getting your Coke from like central South America, it might smell different. And then the stuff that you add to it might smell different. We should just like the coca leaf that they chew for altitude sickness in Peru, like I'm pretty sure in the airports they just have the leaf out like if you get altitude six. I don't know if that's true or not.

In the small airports. In the small, like, yeah, the, like, air strips that you can land in that a warlord controls. Yeah. Yeah, I think they probably have those there. I would. I would chew the coca leaf. Yeah, so would I. I'm going to Panama this weekend, actually. They might have coca leaves in the airport.

You've been traveling, my guy. I didn't realize this. One of my best friends for, you know, for almost my entire life, is getting married in January. And he kind of waited to the last minute to plan his bachelor party. And it's in Panama City, Panama. And I forgot about it until I got back from Qatar And then my buddy was like, hey, are you going to the bachelor party? And I was like, fuck.

Like I just got back from halfway around the world. I don't, and I'm only going to be able to go for like a day and a half. So I wasn't going to go. But then I thought, you know what? I'm just being lazy. I can fly and fly out. I've never really been to Panama before. So if anybody out there knows anything fun to do in Panama City, Panama, let me know.

I'm going to be there for like a day and a half. I thought it was Pala City Beach. No, no. Yeah, what was the thinking behind going to Panama for a natural party? I think there's fishing. You can go to the Pacific Ocean out there, go fishing. There's a nice canal. Big one.

Big, yeah, Jimmy Carter gave it back. That's his claim to fame. He said, you know that big hole that thousands of Americans died constructing? We're going to give it back to Panama. Congratulations. Jimmy Carter, shout out. Which is the place? Still alive?

very much which is the place of Bitcoin the release of this podcast which is a country that used Bitcoin

El Salvador Oh El Salvador Yeah close Different country Panama El Salvador not great With the old Not great

FTX They should declare They should get that guy They should Yeah I mean El Salvador They've had a rough 30 years

Yeah 40 years There's probably Some pissed off dudes You want SBF's head Yeah A lot of

crypto guys dying randomly. Really? Yeah. There was a Russian dude whose plane went down, helicopter, I think. And then there was a 30-year-old crypto dude who just died in his sleep. And then another guy just mysteriously drowned. Died in his sleep at 30? What happened?

No one knows. You got the vaccine. No, no. I think it's more crypto-related. But. You think like he's made a powerful enemy? Or I think these crypto dudes are realizing that all their stuff might go under and the ruse is up and they're just trying to get out and like fake their own deaths. I want to talk to somebody that really, really lived the crypto lifestyle.

I mean, somebody that was, that would wake up and you'd always see like a Twitter space popping off where it's people like discussing crypto. What type of things were they talking about when it came to? Were they just like, there's this new coin and it's going to. revolutionize currency and it's going to the moon and then somebody else would be like you think that's going to the moon actually this coin is going to revolutionize currency and this one's going to the moon my favorite was uh they'd be like is the blockchain been released on that has anyone looked at the code of the blockchain and then i haven't analyzed the code of the blockchain yet and then people would like do entire whole ass podcasts about crypto like they would start a

crypto podcast where three days a week they would just sit and talk about crypto why don't we get my memory if my memory serves me correctly i could be wrong but billy was he had one foot in the door to crypto house and my i mean my memory serves me correctly i no that is true and i did okay i did you know make uh so but when you were talking about you were like they were like i'm like i remember you said a lot of exact same shit but crypto does have applications i believe in blockchain technology but individual coins. That wasn't the claim. But I'm with you.

I just don't want to let's not let's not skirt past the, you was one of them. I did. I did capitalize off of some crypto bros and especially NFT bros. I provided a product that they wanted and they took it and they consumed it. Oh, you got pimped for your master done drawing, didn't you? Yeah, I didn't get pimped. You kind of did, dude. because you didn't make any money off it

no I did you did personally yeah oh I thought that it went to the company oh I thought they took yeah I thought they took it no no part of my take NFTs yeah mine I got sold he's like you somebody say I got away with yeah

now Billy said you make a good point Aaron but you could also say that Billy has had one foot in a lot of doors Billy's like a spider he's just like He's constantly, like, breaking into certain things that he shouldn't be getting into all the way. But he dips his toes in the water. I mean, I made out like a bandit. I made out like a bandit.

I'll admit it. In the NFD marketplace, I made out like a bandit. What doors do you currently have one foot inside of right now? I'm actually looking into some serious lithium battery. Actually, we were talking about investments. Some, there's some lithium battery companies out there that, I mean, disclaimer. do not take Billy's investment advice however

we have asked Billy to be our investment banker like our personal banker for the show so Billy what personal investments do you have that I should start looking into like if I'm I should just buy shit little lithium batteries no not the individual batteries

I mean think about battery technology has been pretty stagnant if you've seen it with like for example remember Nokia's used to last for like weeks with one charge and then the iPhones. Well, it was really just like, you know, like five days, like four or five days. Yeah, but there has been that much innovation and battery technology and like Tesla's only

have so much like mileage from batteries. So there's a lot of companies that are trying to innovate and create a battery that's going to have like way more power. And I think that's the way this like everything's going with green technology and innovation. That's going to be huge and needed. So something. look at. Okay, lithium batteries. There's a couple of ETFs. Okay. How are they performing?

I think the gains are going to be seen in the long run. Okay, so bad. They're doing bad. Everything's bad right now. Okay. The market's down. Yeah. Joe Biden. So time to get in. Yeah. Okay. Sure. Yeah. Count me in for a lithium battery. I'll buy. Why don't we get Pompleano back on? I don't, yeah. What are all the like super crypto bros like? those doing like are they are they circling the wagons right now are they saying like now is the time to buy of course they are there they're still but i got a couple of them in my mentions because we released a clip a while ago when i was saying that it was a sham um and there's like i got flooded in my mentions show him show them and there's a whole bunch of dudes with those

monkey face pictures yeah the low the little there's a whole bunch of them cats showing me a whole bunch of data that I'm not going to read the board ape yeah the board ape yacht club you're going to bring jack back in here right now and ask him that too i tweeted that shit the other day i said i said uh i said what the what the monkey picks hitting for now and uh it got re-tweeted the whole bunch and then i had all the crypto dudes in my mention of the time to time to time to go is now all right fan who you think oh speaking of charlatans liver king got busted we we talked about this part of my take but yeah sorry i'm sorry for your loss billy yeah my liver king got busted

for steroid use but we all shocker yeah we all knew he was up to something i know i still appreciate i've got the hatchet that he brought in i know shit i nothing fake about this yeah this is this this this shit's the real deal right here should we invite liver king on to like you know a tell all absolutely yeah yeah he has he has he said has he responded to it no he i think he's in Mongolia or Thailand hunting yaks He's somewhere hunting yaks He has no time to respond to the haters

It's just haters He last time I saw him He was in negative 20 degree weather Eating a yak's liver that he'd killed Dude this hatchet is legit I don't care I don't care what kind of steroids Liver King was on

When he invented the hatchet Because this thing This thing will fuck you up It is so sharp It's one of those things that you touch And like I'm scared that just touching it, it's going to slice my thumb open. Liver King invented the hatchet. It wasn't a crow magnon man like, you know, tens of thousands

of years ago. No, I see you sound like a hater right now, really. The Iron Age didn't come before Liver King. I'm really disappointed. Jack Mack is currently at a doctor's appointment, but I texted him and said, so what are crypto defenders? Jack Mack, for those who don't know, works at Barstall. He is the number one crypto guy I've ever met in my life. Thanks or zero. Yeah. I said, what are the crypto defenders saying right now? What would your pitch B. He said, there is no pitch. Everything is fine, which is why I wish he was here right now. We're doing good? Yeah, apparently. Everything's going great. He's still typing. A little dog in a firehouse meme. Yes, everything is fine. They are trying to make a centralized

their beta testing. I think the New York Federal, the New York Reserve Trust is bedet testing a central, a decentralized currency that's like, dollar backed like a like basically making a cryptocurrency that's the dollar that could be implemented in the united states sounds like like fruit bucks but for merrick adams he said people didn't stop spending and making when the entire financial system collapsed in 2008 fundamentally everything is the best ever i feel like he's really like just tweeting through it the best ever yeah yeah everything is and actually a lot of people did stop spending money in 2008 and it's not like the entire financial system collapsed in 2008 like everything is basically the same also the money wasn't worth 20% what it once was right right yeah there wasn't like

hyperinflation if you want to see some crazy shit look at what hyperinflation looked like back before world war two so in like post world war one germany why more when they got hit with all the sanctions they couldn't do shit over there the economy completely collapsed people would like straight up put uh just a barrels of cash into their wheelbarrow and then wheel that to the store to buy like a gallon of milk that's somalia right now too there's just bricks of cash for like fish and yeah yeah somalia is a wild wild place they were burning cash because it's cheaper than buying firewood or coal damn in all those situations yeah if you go to somalia again make sure that you leave a copy of your DNA with your doctor. That's what the State Department

recommends. Right. And ensure to enlist the services of the local militia, because that's your tour guide. And then nominate a family member that's going to be in charge of talking to Congress people when you get kidnapped. These are all things that the State Department says you should do before you go to Somalia. Points of contact for Austin negotiations. Yeah. I got to just read Jagmax last text. Bitcoin's network is strong. It will continue to be stronger. There's blood in the streets. Sure, but guess what? That's the time to buy. People didn't stop using hedge funds when Bernie made off, ran off with everyone's money. Totally same thing right there. Totally. That's a Rothschild's quote, right? Buy, when there's blood in the streets, buy?

I have no idea. I don't know. Okay. Well, I mean, from everything Jack Mack's saying, things are perfect. We got to go by. Things are like better than perfect right now. It's It's everyone else that's insane. Got it. Okay. You got a strike when the Liver King iron is hot. Just liver coin. How far off do you think Liver King was for making his own cryptocurrency?

Yeah, I think his business pursuits were actually too profitable for him to consider that. Well, Billy said last night that he was making $100 million a year. And there's just no way that's true. Liver King business. A hundred million American? Yeah. there's not a chance there's no what is he what does he do

how does he well he was rich he was rich before but you said making a hundred million years very different than having he has like over a hundred different businesses which apparently have been grossing over a hundred million a year how do you have a hundred different business I'm saying what

all right a hundred business have you ever ran one business you know how hard that shit is he has a hundred well I have a feeling that there's just multiple different entities that like i'm seeing a net worth of one million dollars you i'm seeing a lot of things but like for example he owns two ranches that are definitely worth more than a hundred million uh than one million dollars each and those aren't so you're are you saying his net worth

is around a hundred million or he makes a hundred million those are too wildly i would still contest the former no no i probably but i'm trying to give him some little i'm saying There's serious cash flow coming his way, and he definitely has a lot of assets. And I think from the descriptions, he gave even before Liver King, you know, Brian Johnson was just a guy. He had a lot of money. I think this is more of a rich guy living out some sick, you know, dream than someone actually. Can you send me where you see the number 100 million? Look up Liver King, 100 million.

To put in perspective, Nathan's hot dogs. they make $50 million in revenue a year. So this guy, Liver King was twice as popular. A very recognizable business in America. Liver King was twice as popular as Nathan's. Well, like, think about it. He was able to make a cattle's body more profitable through making supplements out of the organ meat

than just selling the beef. So if he had a cattle company, which he had a ranch with several heads of cattle, and was then able to create a single head of cattle. I don't know how expensive, like, what's the economics of selling, you know, one cattle, like, versus meat and then adding... You bought the byproduct. Yeah, and then making the byproduct more valuable, how much more ahead he can flip cattle. All right, so I'm looking up, just for clarification here, Nathan's, it looks like the revenue jumped up to $103 million.

So Liver King is even playing field. is Nathan's famous hot dogs. Well, guess they're also using Oregon meat in their meat. That's true. So, is that the key? We got to get into the liver business, into the lips and asshole business. That's where it's at. Yeah.

Snout to snout. Lips and asshole business. That's, it's always going to, it's always going to put money in your pocket to sell things that other people think is just like run off from their shit. We've got right now, it should be said, Argentina is playing against Poland. In the World Cup, it's on our TV right now. if Poland wins, that means that USA plays Netherlands and then I think it's going to be like

Saudi Arabia against Poland. No, no, wait, they're in the same group. Saudi Arabia, Poland, and then some other country. Basically, what we're getting at is that we want Poland to win because it would make our potential run to the semifinals a little bit easier as the United States. We are playing. What's the pathway, though?

Because y'all was explaining something like we had to get a tie or we couldn't tie are we are we back even now so we're through to the knockout rounds where we're out of our group we qualified yeah we beat iran so they end the like tournament now yeah now it gets down to the sweet 16 so we're in the sweet 16 and our game is against netherlands and netherlands is pretty good so that's going to be that's a tough matchup if i were to put it in in sweet 16 terms big team maybe you can help me out i'd say it's like a three versus 14 14 if you're just talking specifically like if you're looking at first-round matchups in the NCAA tournament.

I'm not saying that... No. Yeah, US is probably like the... This is like a... 6-11? You think it's 6-11? Okay. Netherlands is pretty good historically.

Yeah, they're good. They don't scare me. They're not as good as England. That's true. No, that's a fair point. England is, I think, they're ranked, what, number four in the world? Something like that, yeah.

They've won in our lifetime, in my lifetime. Netherlands? Yeah. No, they made the finals against Spain, the year that Spain won, right? Oh, they lost, okay. 2010? 2010. They lost, was it penalty kicks or was it overtime against Spain in the finals?

I remember there was that sick red card. Look up the red card in that game. It was awesome. You know, I've seen, I seen last night, I was, every time, for some reason, every time I turn my TV on downstairs in my room, Old college football comes on. Like, I don't know what channel, like, is, but it's set to it every single time. But anyway, I flipped it, and the next channel, it was playing, it was a rerun of the USA-I-Ran game.

And that shit kind of had me fucked up because didn't Iran protest against their government earlier in the tournament? So, like, this L for them wasn't that good because, like, they're going back on some, like, facing those consequences. Yeah, they didn't sing the national anthem in their first game. And then the government not so subtly implied that if they continued to do that, their families would be in some danger. So, yeah, I hope they are doing okay. It took some balls to do what they did. That's facts.

That is so impressive. And then after the game, there were like guys on Iran that were crying and do his top. Yeah, there's a lot. I turned it at the very end, and it was like at the end, like, they were like, you know, we got to go home now. Like, shit ain't sweet. Yeah, it gets pretty real over there. I think that, I don't know, I've seen a bunch of reports that they've kidnapped, like,

up to 10,000 people are arrested up to 10,000 people for protesting, whether it's women protesting, the right to walk out in public with no veil on or free speech or whatever. Like, it's very real in Iraq. I didn't, so we're about to talk about some crazy MBS stuff, but I think Iran's about to break some records that MBS set on executions. Some all-time records? Like, Iran planned execution. Yeah, I mean, there were talks about doing mass executions over there.

Yeah. They had it where they wanted to execute like 15,000 women. Yeah. Damn. Jesus. I hope that's not true. There's no way that they'd be able to get away with doing that, right? Like 15,000, that seems like enough where the UN would immediately go in.

When does that become a genocide? I think, yeah, that sounds like a, that sounds pretty genocidal to me. Yeah. I don't know what the exact. Is there a specific number? I don't know what the exact terms are. And there can be genocides that don't involve murder either. So like.

Like what what people are saying is happening in China yeah yeah the the Uyghur population yeah although the the Trump State Department did a report on it and they said it's not a genocide they declared it not to be genocide yet but things are lining up for it to be one so I don't know I don't know what to believe over there yet yet so yeah hopefully uh hopefully we didn't do a bad thing to the Iranian soccer team by beating them but like what am I supposed to root again against the United States? I don't think it was really the result of the games

that was the problem. But it made them have to go back to that. Right. I mean, they weren't going to win the tournament. If it were up to me, I would have said that U.S.

and Iran move on from our group and England get the fuck out of here. Can I play a soundbite really quickly that was one of the highlights of the... I mean, these people do chant death to America. So... I think that's painting

with a pretty wide brush. I don't think we're viewed favorably. Iranians. Probably not across the board, but I know a lot of Iranians that live in America. They love it here. I'm sure. I'm sure those are different. Yeah. I would say it's probably safe to say the ruling parties and the ruling class of Iran. Not a big fan of the United States. What was that? That was me. That's me when we scored Okay That might be

Up there with that to America I mean We scored It was a moment of passion Big T was just celebrating That we scored on a round And then we should have won two to Two to nil

That I mean we scored a second one Could have been three if we didn't fuck up that That three on one chance we had By the way is Pulisich Is he like how hurt is he He's fine I think he's hurt, not injured. Is he, because, like, I was trying to figure out if he was trying to sell it, like, soccer style.

Like, I actually didn't know if he's actually hurt or it was a soccer. He was actually hurt. It is okay. It is the sport that cried wolf, though. Yeah. And a lot of times people get really injured, and everyone's like, oh, he's faking it. He's fine. And after he scored the goal, I knew that he was probably hurt because he, like, he scored a goal and he just stayed down and he didn't celebrate it.

I would think that you would probably celebrate a World Cup goal if you were okay. and he went to the hospital got like an abdominal x-ray I think he just hit his balls real hard which sucks and then he went back into the game and then he said he felt dizzy I don't know

I don't know sounds a little suspect to me I think he's got subpar balls or pretty big balls no I listen swollen nut shots hurt but like what if you if you took yourself out

of a World Cup game and then your country ended up losing and you had to go home that would hurt way worse you would have to cut my dick off to get me out of that game I guess I'm just built different but yeah

US advances to the next round we played Netherlands on Saturday I'm gonna be watching that from Panama sneaky Netherlands has no farms no farms you have so many more farms than the Netherlands they got all their farms taken away by whomst by their government

They're farmless. They're farmless. What a bunch of bombs. Bitches. Yeah, you can't be good at sports without farms. Yeah, how do you even grow your protein? You can't be. That means they probably got no no beef, right?

Yeah, no farm strength either. They probably, they destroyed all their farms to grow tulips. Yeah. No farms. Tulips were the original crypto crash. Yeah. They really, people got insane. They went, people in Netherlands went insane over tulips.

They're like, oh shit. this is worth more than money and then they just lost their minds and lost all their money destroyed all their farmland to build a bunch of like C plus flowers now they got no beef

they got no cows no protein all they've got is all they've got is hors and weed sounds like a terrible country if if you have a Dutchman talking shit about America just go tell them like yo where your farms at bro

they're farmless yeah here in America we can own farms without getting them taken away all they've got is weed hookers and bicycles and a couple museums and legal drugs of all kinds

no not all kinds there's heroin you probably find heroin I don't think it's legal I think there's a you're thinking about Portugal no there's a demilitar there's like a decriminalized zone

there where you can are you talking about are you talking about Amsterdam from the wire no the neighborhood in the wire where all the drugs were legal that Bunny Coleman just said

okay let's turn it into the open-air drug market and at least make sure that people are safe there's like ton while recreational use possession and trade of non-medicinal drugs described by the opium law are technically illegal under dutch law official policy since the late 20th century has been openly has has been to openly tolerate all recreational use while tolerating the other two under certain circumstances so it's like it's illegal but it's like it's like weed was like you know like 10 years ago i'm pretty sure you can buy psychedelic mushrooms you can't ecstasy you can't you can't get uh like space cakes over there i had some brownies over there that had mushrooms in them because i was there like three years ago uh you can buy weed

and coffee shops you can buy the space cakes and but as far as like heroin i didn't see any heroin I didn't see any cocaine, anything like that. Yeah. So, yeah, we're going up against these farmless bitches on Saturday. It's actually kind of screwed up. There's like 3,000 family-owned farms for like multiple centuries in Holland that are getting taken by the government for like environmental restrictions. Oh, really? Yeah.

I've just got a couple I've got a couple Netherlands jokes right here ready I'm going to roast Netherlands I just looked up some jokes online What do drain cleaner And a Dutch stripper have in common What They both slowly remove clogs

That's pretty good Got their ass That's pretty good What's the difference between a straw And a Dutch comedian What? one is a hollow cylinder the other is a silly hollander

that's not a good joke well i think i can make one real quick that's a bad joke i don't know enough about these niggas to laugh i'm trying to follow though you need to brush up on your on your dutch stereotypes yeah it's interesting how different nations have their dogs

make different sounds an american dog goes woof a check dog goes half a dutch dog goes, oh wait, this is about to get very racist. Okay, I'm going to skip that one. I'm going to skip that one. The next one was a Korean dog and I didn't look ahead to see what the punchline was going to be.

What does it say? It's a sound that it makes. What? Okay, another classic Dutch baker joke. You ready? A dog walks into a bakery. Baker says, how can I help you? The dog says, woof. The baker says, anything else?

the dog says bark the baker says that'll be 12 euros do you want a receipt and the dog says no I don't get this I guess it's probably funnier in Dutch I don't know

I don't know enough about them I think we learn something very valuable about Dutch people they they suck at humor are those Dutch pastries can you get a bark at a bakery I think I think people from the Netherlands just suck at jokes the Dutch settled a huge amount of the world and especially Texas

so if we're wondering I mean Aryan actually I think isn't a very Dutch part of Texas are you talking about people from Czech Republic there's a lot of Czech stuff over there right but the Dutch like Eisenhower was like related from like

Dutch settlers in Texas oh okay oh I've got another good joke this one's all mine though you ready I'm trying to figure out another region I invited I invited my good friend from the Netherlands over to my house. Wait, I already fucked that up. Let me start it again.

My good friend from the Netherlands invited me over to his house the other day to have a couple pints of beer, some cold beer he had on draft. And unfortunately, I couldn't have a sip. Not a sip was to be had because he had no cups roasted because they've never won a a World Cup. Oh, my. I think. You could say the same thing for most.

countries. Whomp. That's a wamp. That's a good joke. That's better than a fucking Dutch joke. I'm still trying to figure out. Still just trying to figure out Netherlands and other regions

how to like... There's something there. Check this out. Here's a fun fact about the Netherlands. They've got the record for playing in the most World Cups without ever winning the tournament. They finished second place in 74, 78

in 2010. always the bridesmaid never the bride that's pretty cool uh all right so that that concludes our netherlands jokes portion of this podcast it's hard for me to hate netherlands that much they just seem really

boring and you know what's cool about neutral they're just neutral they just mind business and do dutch shit dutch is one of those languages that sound i think sounds the closest to english like one time i a video popped up and this guy was speaking and it sounded, I couldn't really understand what he was saying,

but I thought it was English. But then I realized he was actually speaking Dutch. And I was like, have you ever seen that video on YouTube where they say, it's like people, it's what English sounds like to non-speaking, not-speaking people?

And it's like they're talking and you can like recognize some of the words, but it's like you can kind of see how people's like we sound to other people to us yeah like the common sounds in the English language that we use yeah that get repeated but just like it's jumbled so we don't

understand it but like that's what I feel like Dutch sounds like Dutch is it's kind of like the Swedish which is like no no no it sounds like it sounds pretty English does it? Yeah it's not as sing songy they're very

they're very large people yeah Dutch giants super super big people i remember when i was there i felt i felt you mean fat or tall tall like very skinny they're all in good shape they're right bikes everywhere i mean pretty much everywhere you go you're going to feel a little that's no it's not true not china that's not true area south america i'm tall in south america sure i want to be really yeah that makes sense i would be tall in in a lot of countries in asia i felt pretty tall in katar okay it was a joke let's move on no sneaky south

shit. Saudi Arabia is sneaky, tall as fuck. They are, yeah. Yeah, let's average height in

Saudi Arabia. Every 1.7 meters. Tell me what that is. That is not 6.6. 6.6 is 2 meters. What the fuck's?

Inches. God damn it. We just won the World Cup game. All right. I'll tell you what. Well, Billy's looking that up, I want to talk to you about our great sponsors over at Helix Sleep. You guys are sleeping on the U.S. Men's National Team. It should be sleeping on a Helix mattress. Everyone's

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I'm glad you asked Real quick real quick real quick hold hold on a roll I thought you just talk of shit But so I just looked up you know According to world data that info The Netherlands on average are the tallest People in the world Yeah

And so that they can avoid all the floods Roasted It's Dike really tall They actually used to be short. There was some, there's actually a study on that. Like when they were kids? Wait, wait, wait. They actually should be six, it's six point oh four feet.

So six feet. The average height is six feet. That's wild. Just men or all, everyone? I'm assuming men. I didn't type in men or women. Yeah. Because if that's men and women, that's insane.

I think it's men and women. I think it's all. I think it's probably. Yeah, refer to men. No, it's men and women between the ages of 18. in 25 years. That's crazy. That's tall as shit,

y'all. Because that means the average man is gotta be like six, four? Yeah, so the Dutch were, there's a lot like, they about to whoop our ass,

fam. What? Wait, but the Dutch, how did it, so the Dutch in the 1800s were once short, alternate uncovered

an interesting revelation, namely the Dutch have not always been the tallest nation. In fact, back in the mid-1800s, along with France Italy. They were one of the three shortest countries out of the six investigated. From 1820 to

1875, median Dutch male height hover around 165 centimeters before shooting up more than 15 centimeters over the last 130 years. What's going on over there? I think it has something to do with a famine. When they sold their farms? No, they always been a farming culture, but I think... Where's Montenegro? Oh, that's in a... That's in the Balkans. That's in the Balkans. It's a former Yugoslavic country, yeah. They're tall. That's the second. Yeah, that's my...

Oh, autumn tall-ass white people up there. My grandmother was half Yugoslavian. Estonia, Denmark, Iceland. Croatia, Croatia, Serbia, Sweden, Norway. It's tall, bro. Yeah. You're so tall. Then there's...

Well, think about all those East... A lot of the NBA players are from the Balkans. Are they? Oh, yeah. All those itches. Yeah. All the Jokic brothers. All the Jokic brothers.

All the Vicks and itches. Are there a lot of them in the league, though? Comparatively to other. I ain't, I ain't do all that. Are there a lot of them in the league? Yeah. Nerk. Nurchich?

Nurchich. How many? I mean, what is it, what is it called? Describe that region. The Balkans. Or Eastern Europe? No, that's different. Eastern Europe's different than the Balkans.

Because there's also some, like, Latvians, Lithuanians. Right. Right, right. I'm just going to call them Europeans. Yeah, I think it's, I think there are more European players than there are, like, white American players in the NBA. Yeah. Yeah, so there's 58 European players on opening night rosters. 58?

That's a lot. How many white American players in the NBA? Let's see. I'm not seeing a lot right now. Yeah, when it, let me see. As of 2016, the NBA had 42 white American-born players. The Europeans focus on the fundamentals.

The Europeans are, they're also just like insanely tall, insanely athletic, too. And as my good friend, Danny from Bulgaria taught me, the Croatians are just a bunch of very cocky people. nobody likes Croatians in Europe because they're tall they're good at sports and they're good looking and so they're all rich

or a lot of them are rich so Croatia is on everybody's shit list but do they have any NBA players Croatia? I don't think so they've got great volleyball players there I know that Croatian NBA players

I'm sure they do I think Tony Kukukoch was from Croatia right Tony Kukkohs yeah Bogdanovich Bogdanovich I don't seen Bogdanovich

Yeah, Dragon Bender. Great name. Dragon. Fucking, who's, Pete Stoyanovich, Stoyakovich. Oh, yeah, yeah. Pedro, Petro, Stoyakovich. And then there's another one. Was Vlady Divas from?

Vladimir, yeah, Vladi Dvac. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, shit. From somewhere over there. Bogdan, Bogdanovich. Yeah. The Serbs are. We're just naming wild things. By the way, these are also all the dudes that caused World War I.

So kind of low-key. like what's up with that yeah he's Stoyakovich calls world war one yeah he's a good shooter dude there's got that that archduke lined up he was at the top of the key they're great shooters

some they're opportune shooters do you think uh do you think franz fernan like came off a screen yeah when he saw the archduke coming around he was eating his sandwich someone just tossed him a gun catch pivot shoot no dribbles

no dribbles no the serbs hold grudges. They have like blood wars for like like generational blood wars. They know how to feud. Yeah, they feud hard. They're like some of the only people that weren't conquered by the Ottoman empire when they like expanded into southern Europe. Yeah. So there, there's some like badass dudes. I also when I was talking at 3 a.m. to my friend from Bulgaria, he was explained to be the history behind North Macedonia. Oh yeah. And how crazy that was because Macedonia is or it was a region in Greece and like Greece forced them to change their name from Macedonia to something else if they wanted to like be admitted to a certain maybe it was the UN even yeah and so they

basically Greece forced them to change their name and they're like fuck you we're just going to say north Macedonia then and there's not going to be any Macedonia it was just interesting to hear how like these small countries in eastern Europe they all kind of hate each other they look at each other like brothers or cousins some of which you like some of which you hate but they're so similar to each other um that they it's there's like a lot of casual racism that goes on or i guess it might not be racism if it's between like two similar cultures well i mean there was genocide committed because i mean you think it's more religion there's some religion yeah there was definitely some religious stuff that he was talking about um like when you start talking about

Bosnia because they're Muslims there and then and then he started like somehow we got into a conversation about like about Mel Gibson we talked about Braveheart and then he was then he got real real anti-Semitic with it like real casually

anti-Semitic I was like okay I'm going to go inside now I didn't sign up I didn't sign up for this uh he was also talking shit about the Amir and I can't I could not be seen yeah with him but uh but yeah

Yeah, a lot of that. So, like, the Ottoman Empire converted a bunch of those dudes to Islam. And then there's the guys who didn't convert. And then once they left and became free of the Ottoman Empire, then they're like, stop being Muslim. You're not actually Muslim. And they're like, no, we've been practicing Islam. And that's why a lot of shit was popping off.

Oh, crazy. All right. The main reason why I'm not a religious cat. Like, there's been, like, wars over this shit for, I don't know how long. And all this thing I've got to do is come down and be like, yo this the right shit to do and he just refused to do it it's just don't make no sense it's ridiculous you know it's the craziest justification i've heard for that exact argument is that like because the real believers are willing to fight for their religion they get to go to the promised

land first and fastest and their pick means sanity like yeah yeah it's like like the the good die young because they're all set to go to heaven like yeah like yeah Yeah, these guys were the good guys, and that's why they're all set to go to the good place. At worst, he's an asshole. At best, he's irrational. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, you can make that take.

Oh, last thing, Balkans Honor Society, herding culture. Wait, did Messi just miss a PK? Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, Messi's plan? Oh, let's go poll. Missed a penalty kick. Let's go Polacks.

That is the only soccer jersey I own is messy, bro. Is that problematic? He didn't miss it. It was saved, to be fair. Polok. It was saved. It was a great save, though. Big T.

What are you teed off about? Thank you for asking. The college football playoff rankings came out on Tuesday night. You may have seen. Tennessee was number seven. Do you see it was number six? Alabama The Alabama Crimson Tide

Now I'm going to give you The five criteria The College Football Playoff Committee Claims it uses When ranking teams Now there are going to be people who say This doesn't matter Because neither of those teams

Are going to be in the playoff But it does matter Because the highest ranked SEC team That's not in the playoff Goes to the Sugar Bowl Which is a great accomplishment And it matters for that reason The first criteria they use

head-to-head game results if the teams have played. Tennessee and Alabama did happen to play this season, as they have every year for the last hundred or so. Tennessee won that game. Second criteria, strength of schedule. Tennessee number seven in the country, Alabama number eight. Results versus teams in the top 25. Tennessee's top 25 wins, a 40 to 13 win over number 14 LSU,

and a 52 to 49 win over Alabama, the same team we're comparing. and, and that's it, Alabama beat Texas by a point on the road, and they beat now number 24 Mississippi State. So Tennessee's beating better teams than Alabama. Results versus common opponents, LSU, one of those common opponents. Alabama lost LSU, Tennessee again, beat them by 27 in Baton Rouge. And the other common opponent, Vanderbilt, Alabama beat them 55 to 3. Tennessee beat Vanderbilt 56 to nothing.

So Tennessee outperformed Alabama in each of the five criteria, college football playoff committee claims they use uh but as we've learned they're just making shit up as they go along and they're full of shit where do they where do they claim to use those criteria that is on the college football playoff committee website as the criteria they use when comparing teams okay what about um what about losses do they talk about losses not mentioned do you think that maybe they do take into account the losses i think they take into account the name on the jersey so so wait wait so is the argument here the Alabama has better losses because they don't have a good win. They haven't beaten a good team the whole

season. I think that you guys just have the worst loss. The team's records are identical, by the way. I don't think it's deeper than either one of you are making it. It's just Alabama has a pristine record with the college football fandom. And so that's what the draw is. Correct. It's not even any bigger than that. If their jersey said Arkansas on them, they would be like number 13. Easily. Yeah, that's probably true. What about if Arkansas had started the season

ranked as highly? What was Alabama number two at the start of the season? Probably, yeah. Yeah, if they'd start the season. I think that also has something to do with it, where they started the year. But the college football playoff rankings don't come out until November. They don't care about the AP. Nick Saber, I was going to say, Nick Saber made a great

point, right? Where it's like, yeah, for sure like Tennessee beat Alabama right but when they lost that game Nick Saban said like when he went off his rant or like these are just kids

that type of shit he said there's some real shit he was like you know we get everybody's best like that's not necessarily the case with everybody in the country like when you get a chance to play Alabama like I don't fuck who like we are like everybody's all in

because that's like a career changing thing Tennessee was good it this year for sure right but like when tennessee's on a schedule it's not necessarily circled like alabama circled every team alabama plays it's circled said this is the one right and so like you have to take that into account when you're when you're having a down season i mean think about this they they lost two games and it's a down season that's wow but it's like when you're having a down season um the expectations are much higher the stakes are always bigger and but this is what you get i think they got the benefit of the doubt who's to say it was right and wrong

but like they're obviously playing to the to the fans yeah and there is a non-zero chance though virtually zero that tCU and usc lose this saturday and alabama could wind up in the college football playoff i'd say it's pretty near zero yeah but non-zero it's non-zero uh i would say it's it's highly unlikely i think tCU gets in with a close loss yeah but although i also feel like the committee has wanted to keep tc u out like it They're looking for an excuse. They've been looking for an excuse to doubt TCU.

I mean, you have two, Big T. You've been... Oh, TCU's not good. Anti-TCU. They're going to get murdered if they make the college football. But if they lose in the Big 12 championship game, I don't think that there's a chance that they would get dropped entirely from the top four. I would doubt it, unless they lose by 30. Yeah, they have to lose by a lot.

But that said, also on the college football playoff committee's website, they examine statistical data and they review a significant. amount of game video. I'm guessing that maybe some of the game video that they watched happened to be Tennessee against South Carolina. That doesn't matter. It does matter. I mean, you guys got your teeth kicked in by a shitty team.

I think, I think if Tennessee don't get blown out like that, it's like a close game. Tennessee could have lost that game by one point. They'd still be behind Alabama. I don't know about that. I think it was the man. I think it was,

it was the ass weapon, but they got their ass. It just, that's just, you can't, and it was what? Were they ranks? No. They are now. And that's why they ranks. Well, they beat Clemson on the road the next week, too.

Oh, Spencer Rattler. Well, they showed up. He got back to the form that he was supposed to be. I mean, realistically, Hendon doesn't get hurt. They don't lose the South Carolina. Oh, no, they were getting there. No, they were looking. But that's actually, I'm glad you brought that up, Billy.

That was the other reason. People are like, well, Hendon's hurt. They're not the same team. team. If Georgia, let's say Georgia, uh, wins this Saturday by 13 points. All 22 starters have season-ending injuries. So they're 13 to no. They no longer have all 22 starters. Should they not be in the college football playoff? That's, that's a pretty extreme comparison. Well, I, no, it's extreme from, that's detrimental to my argument, actually. If all 12 Georgia, if all 11 starting Georgia players on offense, all 11, all

11 on defense. Yeah, they'd probably still be in the playoff. So then you can't use that argument anymore then. I'm not using the argument. I know, but people have. Okay, okay. But I'm not. I'm not one of the game. Also, Ohio State got into the college football playoff with a third string quarterback and won the national title. Yeah, that's true. And he was great for like three games. I've decided I'm not going to be mad about this because it is what it is. Who cares? Now, what I will be mad about is if Ohio State ends up successful.

fully lobbying against going to the Rose Bowl and they take the Orange Bowl away from us, then I'll be pissed. How would that work out? The Rose Bowl is supposed to take the highest ranked Pac-12 team, if it's not the Pack 12 champion is in the college football playoff. But they have a clause in there that if there's a cluster, quote-unquote, of teams ranked similarly, it doesn't even specify a range. They can just kind of make it whatever they want.

And there's a number of other factors, including when the last time teams played in the Rose Bowl was, Ohio State played in it last year, that, or Big Ten team, excuse me, not Pac-12, but it applies to the Pac-12 also, that Big Ten, Big Ten, that they can pick a different team and Ohio State played in it last year, so they've made it known to the Rose Bowl that they don't want to go to the Rose Bowl again. So they're trying to get to the Orange Bowl, then the Rose Bowl would take Penn State, and that would force us to go to the Cotton Bowl against the shitty group Damn, that shit is getting me dizzy, man. Holy shit.

It sounds like crypto discussion to me. Basically, we always get fucked by whatever the crazy scenario is. I understand. I understand the scenario where... And we're going to get fucked again. But why wouldn't Ohio State want to go back to the Rose Bowl? They played in it last year. Yeah, but still, it's the Rose Bowl.

I guess they'd rather go to Miami. I don't know. But it's Kirk Herb Street mentioned it on the show and some Tennessee reporters have heard that they are very heavily lobbying to not go to the Rose Bowl. ball okay who would you guys be playing the orange bowl probably clemson which would be a great that's so much orange it is too much orange yeah the orangest orange bowl of all time too too orange this might be this might be a bad football take um but i've always like like even if some games are good but if their colors don't clash with the field and the atmosphere i just don't like

watching it like it's wild like i love like when when colors like mesh well together on the field It just, it creates a very good atmosphere. Like, if that Michigan, Ohio State game was in Ann Arbor, it'd have been a better game to watch. I still enjoyed it. But the colors didn't match. Like, all white just didn't match with the red and they just didn't like it. No, I agree with that. That's part of the reason why I just don't like Ohio State.

I just can't, I can't find myself rooting for them. I think their color scheme is too bland. It's like gray, silver, like a dull red, just seems boring to me. I know they haven't played a boring brand of football for the last 10 years, but before that, they're really fucking boring when Jim Tressel was their coach. And so they've always got that, like, branded into my head when I think of Ohio State football. But they're way better than Alabama, color scheme-wise, by a mile. Alabama's. But a lot of the...

But a lot of their teams that they play against, like, the SEC, they go against, like, really colored match teams. Like when Alabama plays Tennessee, it looks good because the orange really contrasts that maroon, right? Or when Alabama plays LSU, that shit pops, man. It just looks good. It just looks well together. When you have the worst things I hated was when San Francisco played Kansas City. I think it was a Super Bowl, wasn't it? Oh, yeah.

A couple years ago. Oh, fucking it. I hated watching that game. Just didn't mesh. Different reds just didn't look good. I hated it. Huh. This is definitely a B-thing.

Now, what mental illness is this? What would you say? I don't know. I don't know. This is a me thing, though. The best color matchup in the NFL. NFL, I would say, there's a couple that go really good together. Like, when the Raiders are at home and they play like the Chiefs?

Yeah. Oh, that's a gorgeous game to watch. It's a gorgeous game to watch. Steelers at home. and that depends I don't know I'd have to

The Bill's Jets Red and Green Christmas color game was fun Yeah Colored blind people couldn't watch it I remember that one

I like the 49ers when they're playing Oh Yeah When they're at home And they're playing the Cowboys Like the 90 shits

Yeah either one either one at home gorgeous colors gorgeous or Detroit Thanksgiving versus like the Packers yep great

yeah yeah I would also say like the Packers against the Vikings is a good uniform matchup too yeah very well get the purple mixed in there yeah I'm glad it's just me I'll see it

there's colors that feel better than other ones oh yeah it's not enough to turn me off I'm like I'm gonna watch the game but I feel like the game would be a more aesthetically you're just sitting there upset the whole time just like

do this happen when you were playing in games all the time I hated our fucking uniforms I hated Houston's uniforms because it's like it didn't look it was just boring it was very bland I just hated it It is a little bit of all yeah You're just sitting in the game

Just be like this is it aesthetically pleasing What about the battle red Do you like the battle red uniforms I hated that too Because it was with a blue helmet It made no sense It didn't match I was out there not matching

Because I was coming from the I'm coming from the era Where like all of us in high school In San Diego Like we was like You gotta get jiggy Like you gotta look good I'm talking about

With the tape And you had You had cats in the mirror Like two hours before the game Not two hours Like an hour Like they was getting their shit Ready getting tight

And then if the uniform Ugly it's all for not You know what I can't even look sweet That's why like Dion Dion used to look sweet He's the one, he's the reason I wore high socks. I wore high socks because it's Dion. That shit looks sweet.

But it's like Atlanta Falcons, that old Atlanta Falcons uniform. All black, yeah. Oh, that shit nice, though. Yeah. Ooh, the Eagles go, too. The old Eagles with Randall Cunningham. Yep, the green. That eagle uniform, like against the Giants, the old Giants uniforms?

Brer, yelling you. I really liked Falcons, like the all black against the white 49ers. That's a good uniform matchup right there. Yeah, I like that one. Yeah, yeah, I like that. Yeah, no, you're not the only one that thinks about these things. The uniform matchup does, it makes a difference. Aaron, real quick before we get into our guest, your team, your former team, the Houston Texans,

hosting Deshaun Watson this weekend. He's making his comeback. Really? Yeah, so they timed it out so that his first game back. I don't think this was on purpose because the NFL is not trying to draw. a lot of attention to the game i don't think so it's going to be it's going to be the browns against the texans it's going to be a 1 p.m. game i was saying earlier they if they could they would play it at like 6.15 a.m. when nobody was watching it so that nobody would talk about

it but he's coming back this weekend and uh it's uh it's going to be it's going to be real strange atmosphere there in the crowd i actually got an email from the houston texans like they have this like program like the legends that they invite like uh ex players like to the game and stuff. I have yet to go. I wonder if I should go this weekend. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be a weird atmosphere. That's going to be wow. I bet he's going to be packed, though. I want to find out what happened, like, everything behind the scenes that went down with the Deshaun Watson situation.

From him basically holding out without holding out to him demanding trades, to the whole team kind of like dissolves. with the front office with Casero and Easterby and then all that shit that started come out with the lawyers and the women. Like I want to, I wish that there was a way that we could know the truth of everything that happened in that situation. Let's do a documentary, me and you.

They're going to have a documentary about it 10 years. It's a lot of stuff that, that we probably don't know about that. Let's hop on it before anybody else gives it. I mean, me and you, we started his documentary. Okay, yeah, I'm in. I'm in Deshaun Watson. Did he, so you guys heard his,

a lot of his accusers are going to the game? Yeah. Oh, they are? Yeah, there's going to be like a group of them there. Like a full section? I mean, they could probably fill up a full section. That was a good joke. That was a good joke.

Who me? Yeah. Thank you. They could. Like, it's probably going to be, like, 25, 30 women. Do you think they're going to be the end? Like, I know this is not a funny joke, but what if they're in the end zone, like, trying to distract him during the game? I want them to be on the sidelines.

booing him. I want them to be able to physically hurt him. What if they're sat right by the play clock where he has to look during the game to try to make sure this is not the ball in time. They're all just there. I want them to be able to be on the field as defensive players when he is on the field.

That would, they would get whooped. I just, I, like, there's 11, there's 11 defensive Houston players and then on top of it, there's 30, extremely angry women because you guys don't get it female rage is more powerful than i think a 300 pound defensive back is i oh trust me i think you know i think 11 though uh i i i what if they all just rush the field and beat the shit out of them i would be fine with that i'm so glad streaking i as a browns fan who's they all streak what if they all wait actually what would

happen if they all jumped on the field and killed him on live television what are we talking about they'd probably get arrested would it be one of those things because this happened this happened in India where a bunch of women went and killed their rapist

and then no one no one came forward as a witness of the killing I would imagine this situation to be well you just said it would be during a football game it is a Texan's game so it's probably only like

a couple thousand people that would be witness if that happened like would anyone snitch? You wouldn't have to snitch. I will personally not call the police if that happens. I would. Let me tell you why I would. I have for the last about two and a half three weeks,

I don't know why. It popped up in my YouTube algorithm and I have not stopped. I admit it. I have been watching murder mysteries for like the past two and a half weeks. But they're not like they don't like take. They're actually interrogations of the actual murderers.

and so I've been watching like mad like I'm talking about I've watched at least 40 of these things and the one thing I've learned is you are not implicating me and your bullshit because I am not going to jail for your shit

I don't care how cool we are I don't go fuck what we got going on there are the worst it's just like the they're the worst liars ever first of all but like when you just see how they try to like involve everybody it's not involved

and it's like nah but if I see something I'm not a criminal. It's going down. You're getting the dialed on you. I've watched a lot of those videos too. They're addictive. The interrogation ones where the way that they try to get people to like tell on themselves for things. It's like it's okay.

Maybe something got out of control like things happen. You know, like I've been in bad situations too. You probably didn't even mean to do it, right? And they try to get you to admit to something that's not that much of a deal. And then they just build that around until next thing you know you're in jail. Or let's say like... See this dude? Hold on.

I see this dude. He was, he was, uh, he killed, he killed his pregnant wife and his dad and in her dad. And he threw the bodies in the dumpster and tried to sit it on fire. And he's in there and he weaves together the wackest story. Like if I didn't know what happened, this store would have been the worst shit. Like a little kid telling the story. But like the prosecutor, he started, the detective, he starts breaking him down, breaking him down. an hour and 30 in. He's like, look, I know you're lying. He starts doing what you're saying,

right? And he's like, he's a dude starts breaking down. He starts crying. He's like, now you just tell me what happened. You know, it's best for you right now if you just tell me what happened. And he's like, okay, okay, can you give me some cookies and some, and some coke really quick? It's just like you're about to admit to a murder and you need cookies. It's insane, oh my God. I saw another one with this dude that was being interrogated, like they're really digging into him being like okay how did your girlfriend end up dead she's dead with a gunshot wound what did you do to

or what did you do and he's not making any sense with his answers and after about an hour of interrogating him they lean over and they're like let me take a look at your face and they notice that the dude's got a gunshot wound in his head and he had been shot in his head like two days ago when they killed his girlfriend

and the people that did that to her did that to him and then they have to like take him to the hospital he almost died he has like permanent brain damage I saw that too. Yeah, because they thought he did it. They thought it was him. But they didn't realize that he was literally bleeding from his face because he got shot in the head.

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That's what I'm doing right now. So it's Felix from Chapo Trap House. He's here because he's, are you an MBS stand? Are you like, are you in the MBS Army? Um, I, I don't think I'm quite a Stan. I haven't made a fan cam. Um, but I, I would say I'm adjacent to the stand community. Okay.

I've been, I've been reading a lot about Muhammad bin Salman and, uh, he's a fascinating character. He's like my age, I think, right? He's like 36, 37. Yeah. And, uh, he is the crown prince of Saudi. Arabia. So I don't know, maybe you can, maybe you can share with us. When did you first learn about, about NBS? Because he's really only been on the international scene for what the last like

six years or so. Well, yeah, he, for people outside of Saudi Arabia, he first sort of popped up around 2015. His big introduction to Gulf Watchers in America and, you know, non-Arabic speaking countries in general was the Saudi incursion into Yemen, their involvement in the Yemeni civil war. He's always been a very interesting figure, you know, for as long as Saudi Arabia has been a country, there have been ambitious princes, but he really, he's more ambitious than any prince we've ever seen. I mean, you mentioned that he's crown prince.

Well, before he was crown prince, he made them create a totally new position for him. him, which was deputy crown prince. That's not something that used to exist, but he was about 30 years old or 29 at the time, actually, and wanted them to enshrine his growing authority within the kingdom in a completely made up thing that hadn't existed before. So imagine being the crown prince at that point. And, uh, and, yeah, I'm actually deputy now. You're, you start looking over your shoulder like immediately. So, um, like, we get, we can back up a little bit and explain how, he even got to the position of being the crown prince because he's going to be the he's the first um of his generation to that will take the throne right because ahead of him it just got passed

around all the cousins and brothers um that were the sons of abdul aziz right right um it used to you know the core group of power uh in the saudi royal family you know the royal family is gigantic some people say that, you know, there is, there are as many as 50,000 princes. But at the highest rungous power, it was very exclusive. You know, the most powerful group for a while was the, I'm sure I'm butchering this pronunciation, but the Sudhary seven, they were the sons of the most favored wife of Abdulaziz. And as you pointed out, yeah, the kings for the longest time were only sons of Abdulziz. He will be, you know, the first millennial king. assuredly, if nothing insane happens, which you can never quite count out.

But yeah, he definitely represents a generational shift. But in some ways also a look backwards, you know, a lot of a lot of the boomer princes and a lot of the sort of silent generation kings, people, you know, including his predecessor, Muhammad bin Nayef, the previous crowd prince, they did receive education outside of Saudi Arabia. Muhammad bin Salman never received foreign education. He didn't intend university in America. He doesn't have any foreign degrees. He didn't go to Oxford or anything like that.

He's very much of the kingdom. Yeah. Yeah. So he studied law in Saudi Arabia. And he's like super ambitious. And I don't understand why if you were just a Saudi prince, why you would ever want to be ambitious? Like if I were him, I would be completely fine with my billion dollars or two billion.

dollars however much he was going to have but i i was reading up about how he was like he was bitter at his father because he thought that although his dad was doing a good job um and like he was a noteworthy politician he was running things and he had a lot of power his dad was kind of a broke boy and wasn't using his position to amass all this wealth that a lot of the other people in the royal family were getting for themselves like cutting side deals on stuff and so he was like a little bit disappointed his dad so he said okay i'm gonna i'm gonna start running so running a business that that's how he got that dog in him was he was the poorest he was probably like the poorest cousin out of all of those that whole royal family so he was just like i'm the broke boy so he's he got that hustle on yeah

that's what happened yeah rich prince poor prince and and he was like pissed off that his dad it's like his dad didn't have a job basically he was the poorest prince and his father was probably one of these guys who's just like you know what i've seen so many of my uncles and fathers get killed over this whole squabble for power type thing. I'm just going to take my check and just like go chill out somewhere. Well, well, his father actually, his father is the king. His father is King Salman. And he is a New Derry.

He's a very powerful royal. I'm sure just in general, an incredibly rich man. But in comparison to some of the other princes, yeah, it has been alleged that he, he's not quite as rich as he could be. Yeah. So he, where, where does his dad stand? If we're talking about like, if you're looking at the spectrum of secular to super religious and conservative in Saudi Arabia, where is his dad on that spectrum? Because it's been alleged that MBS, he's, he's more towards a secular, or at least he's in favor of appealing towards some of the more secular younger generations that are growing up from his, his family's standpoint, where is the king on that spectrum?

Well, it's sort of weird to game this out because, you know, technically a lot of these changes are happening under King Solomon. But of course, it's the most likely thing is that most of these changes are being spurred on by MBS. You know, King Solomon is, he's very old. He, there was alleged to be kind of a Woodrow Wilson thing going on where he's almost totally debilitated. But if you were just going to, if you were going to discount the immense unprecedented power of MBS as deputy crowd prince and then crown prince, you would have to say that he's one of the more secular reforming kings that they've had since Faisal. Faisal was, of course, devotely religious, but, or devoutly religious, but he initiated a lot of reforms that were, ended up pissing a lot of people off. ultimately causing his own death. Bill, you got anything?

My question was his whole dep is like his whole rise to the crown and how he cut basically changed it from the brother, the eldest brother getting the crown as opposed to that's how the delineation was done before to him getting it. Was that him specifically his moves MBS or did his father actually make that proclamation

on his own was it his move or his father i i would be shocked if solman came up or king solman came up with that on his own i mean uh is pretty far gone at that point um i i think that was pretty much just an mbs he's a big dude too he's like six four probably like two 30 240 uh the king or the son the son the son i looked up suddenly six foot i was i was wondering if he should have been Muhammad bin Balin like Osama because everyone was like

Terry Rozier tweet yeah but oh I thought I thought he was taller than that I thought it was like six four six four so but he's still a big boy he's like a little he's a little chunky but he is uh the dude loves to spend money

and I was looking at at some of the stuff that he's purchased in the last you know just several years what's your favorite purchase that that he's made and then I'll tell you mine um Well, I like the most recent. The most recent one is rumored.

You know, he, he denies this, of course. But you were at the World Cup, the Saudi soccer team, of course, upset. Every massive upset. They beat Argentina. MBS is rumored to have bought the entire team, Rolls Royces, which I think is very fun if he did that. That's good. I like that too. My favorite is that he bought Leonardo da Vinci painting.

And he had somebody, he had one of his. agents are like an intermediary, purchase it at auction for him. And they said, we're going to take this back and we're going to put it in the Middle Eastern Louvre that we have. So it's going to go into a museum. It'll have a good home. And then MBS was like, just put it on my yacht for me personally. So I can just look at it. And all my guests can look at it. And so he bought for half a billion dollars almost. And then he put it on his half a billion dollar yacht. Can I read you my favorite quote of his? Yeah. As far as my private expenses, I'm a rich person and not a poor person. Facts only. Love this guy. Yeah. Spot the lie. So how much money

does the Saudi royal family have do you think? I've read anywhere between like one and five trillion dollars. Yeah, that people generally throw out the trillion dollar figure. I would be pretty surprised if it was anything less. The thing that I think is particularly special about like these Gulf monarchies, these petro states that, you know, have either majority or fully owned their state oil companies for decades now, is that, you know, someone, you know, Elon Musk is worth $150 billion, right? But that's the vast majority of it is equity in, you know, SpaceX or Tesla, these things that he can't exactly go out and sell $150 billion worth of. Whereas with with Gulf Monarchs, and especially the Sauds, so much of that wealth is, if it's not, you know, in cash exactly, it's in very liquid, liquid assets.

It's, you know, they're able to take, you know, like a $500 million just instantly, just take it out like that. They are, it's probably the biggest pool of liquid assets owned by a private family in the entire world. Yeah. So Aramco's market valuation was $2.43 trillion. So that's that's their main moneymaker. And so one thing that he's trying to do is to like diversify his portfolio because he knows that 100 years from now, 200 years from now, the market is not going to be the same as it is right now for oil. So he's trying to spread that money around, try to make it grow. I don't know if he's going to be successful or not. everything that he's trying to do because he's he's buying up a lot of assets he's he's investing in a lot of american companies uh whether it's like film um whether it's like restaurants the public investment fund of saudi arabia is spending money like everywhere they're they're just getting into every single industry but a lot of the stuff that he's doing is trying to like

increase soft power for saudi arabia like to live tour which is basically just a giant commercial for saudi arabia uh and the money that he spent on is like a drop in the bucket but i in a weird it's almost kind of backfired where he's spending that money on the live tour but the media is for the most part in the United States only covering it by saying like hey this is a blood money golf tour so I don't know if he's going to be completely successful with everything that he's trying to do but he's like he's definitely trying to diversify a little bit and I feel like I don't know what your thoughts are on on the live tour maybe things will like die down over the next year as it keeps going on but so far it's just basically been like a moth to a flame

for journalists in America to be like, hey, it's a bad guy giving money here. Right, right. It's, we've seen similar things, too. You pointed out that a lot of these purchases are very, you know, soft power. They're cultural purchases. It's not, he's definitely making investments in things that he's hoping 100 years from now will, will grow like he put it into the S&B 500 or just, you know, 7% APY bonds. But a lot, he'll spend.

spend 100 million, 200 million on something that has, you know, a cultural foothold in the West. You talked about the Liv Tor. There was a similar thing he did with Riot Games, the makers of the game that I cannot understand for the life of me, League of Legends, and then the game that's a far worse version of CSGO in Valerant. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. CSGO's trash. Are you kidding me?

CSGO is so much better. You looks like you're playing the graphics on, like, Nintendo 64, bro. Stop it. Oh, it's like you don't counter-strafe in Ballarat. Ballard is someone can ask. You can absolutely. That means you ask. That's why you be booty at the game.

That's what I mean. I played CSGO. Like, I can shoot, but the graphics are, come on. You at least admit that. Come on. Okay, yeah, I don't care. Like, graphics are fine. Where did you top out in CSGO?

Do you get like hard? I know I never I never know because I I played I came from Valorant to CSGO I didn't I didn't come from CSCO to go Valoran so like I was I was Diamond 2 is my highest in in Valorant so it's like equivalent I don't know I don't know what they're calling CISCO actually but I can play diamonds Diamond's pretty good yeah you're definitely way better at Valorant than I could be it but I just I think CSGO is a way more exciting game but MBS did there was a big thing with ride games they the Saudis threw the their state investment vehicle, made a big investment in ESL, which is one of the counterstrike pro leagues. They definitely, they wanted to be normal, you know, to have big sporting events, whether it's golf or e-sports or probably in their wildest dreams, you know, football games or NBA games in Saudi Arabia. The problem, as you identified, is that MBS did one of the one things you don't do. He killed a journalist who, you know, is an American citizen. in which if you don't want journalists to talk about how weird all this is, you generally don't do that.

I do think that over time, this is usually what we see, things that we declare are complete aberrations and not normal and totally evil. If they just keep happening, 10 years later, we won't even notice. I think that's what they're banking on, and that's probably what will happen. My general sense was that he, so growing up and he's, you know, living in the Saudi royal family, he's very insulated and he experiences a lot of Western culture, even though he doesn't like go overseas, like you mentioned, to get his education like a lot of people do, still a lot of the culture that they absorb over there. He is a millennial. He's got a smartphone. He basically enjoys Western culture, but he's completely separated from it and insulated from it. So his solution to this is, I'm just going to buy all the stuff that I like anyways, which is like a lot of rich kids growing up here in the United States. If they don't have to work, it's like, well, do something that you're passionate about it. It's like, oh, okay, I'm passionate about sports. I'll buy a sports team. That sort of thing. So he now, he owns Newcastle United, too, in England. And he's invested in a lot of stuff. And, like, there's, it is funny

because there's probably a lot of things that he's done that Western journalists could point to and say, here's proof this guy is not a good person. You don't want to be in business with him, like what he's done in Yemen, which is essentially, so if you're not familiar with the war in Yemen right now, is it the Houthi rebels, Houthi, Houthi rebels? They seize control and Saudi Arabia is claiming that they're backed by Iran. And so Saudi Arabia then has imposed a blockade on the city, essentially strangling the city and causing anywhere between like 10,000 and 100,000 civilian deaths with private. probably more on the horizon because there's a famine going on there right now. So his actions over there are probably or definitely easier to point to and say like this is a bad individual. But the fact that he got tied in with the murder of Khashoggi did give so like red

meat for for the press to say he murdered a journalist. This is why he's a bad dude. And there's actually, I don't know if you've done any, uh, any background reading into Khashoggi and like where he came from and his whole story. But it's, it's a lot more complicated than him being a columnist for the watch. Right, right. I, right. I've gotten, I, oh my God, uh, I get yelled at a lot.

Uh, I got so yelled at for saying that, you know, because you're doing for saying, yeah, for saying that like, what, uh, NBS and the UAE, the Yemen encouragement people say is a bigger UAE project, uh, but it is, it's unusual for the Saudi military to go so far. outside his own borders like that. But that is a far worse crime than what he did to Kishoggi. And Kishoggi, as you said, it's, look, he was a player in court politics. Are you guys saying he was asking for it? No, I'm saying.

You see what he was wearing, Billy? You guys said. Billy, it wasn't right to kill him. You know, I, I absolutely think that it wasn't right to kill him. But he was, he was definitely playing a game that he knew could have. fatal consequences um he definitely did not deserve to die but it is it's a bit of a complex story he grew up uh involved in the saudi court right and he was on the side of the saudi royal family and then he uh he started to go against the saudi royal family and he had a big falling out

with them and he started he started some uh twitter campaigns and he was definitely on the attack against the royal family so i'm i'm not saying he deserved it either i'm saying from from saudi Arabia's point of view, this was one of their own guys that is now like talking shit on the outside about him. It had nothing to do. I don't think it had anything to do with like the columns that he was occasionally writing in the post. But then they bring him into the Turkish embassy when he's looking to get his papers because he's about to get married. And the Saudis had a tiger squad of hitman up there that choked him out and dismembered his body. And then watching the fallout after that where they tried to act like first of all they had no idea that this guy even went missing

and then yeah well he might have gone missing but maybe it was an accident and maybe he left after he went missing for a while to yeah we killed him my bad and now mbs is saying it's not my fault i didn't order it but it's my responsibility i take responsibility for it so two questions on that so uh knowing a lot of background on it do we think that uh koshogi might have been this Twitter entity, Muj Tahid, who was like a whistleblower who used to report on all the scandalous affairs within the royal family. And this was another reason where he's a contributor to this Twitter entity that used to leak a lot of stuff on the Saudi royal family. Do you think this may have contributed to it? I don't know. Is there any? I can't say. Yeah, I haven't heard about it. I did

hear that he, that Khashoggi might have been working with some of the 9-11 plaintiffs that are filing a lot of the lawsuits and that would be a reason that MBS would see him as a major threat because of the liability that that lawsuit would pose if he was giving them any inside information as to what happened. I don't know how accurate that research that I read was, but people were speculating about that part. Billy, just a quick follow up on that. It appears that the Mush Tahid account is still tweeting long after Kishoggi's death. So I don't think, I mean, multiple people can have access to one account, but I don't think it was him.

Because that, that was a big thorn in MBS's side. And I was doing a lot of research on and there was some speculation towards that. But I'm just so surprised this guy walked into a Saudi Arabian embassy, knowing, you know, the tiger squads exist. Like, it almost seems like a death wish. just because he wanted to marry you know he had to get divorced from his old wife he was that horny yeah willing to risk at all you yeah he was risky at all for a new turkish wife yeah uh i i read some other stuff about mbs as a child when he was growing up experiencing western culture and

like dancing to music and getting yelled at by his uncles because they were like hey we're not allowed to we're not allowed to partake in this you're going to get everybody into trouble and And I read about when he found out about the 9-11 attacks. So he was probably what, like 12, 13 years old? He was your age. Yeah, maybe a little bit younger. And so he found out about the attacks. And he's told people, at least recently, his response was he wanted to kick those hijackers' butts.

He was really mad at them when he found out this was going on. I don't know whether or not to believe in that. But it's interesting to hear about like his perspective as somebody, you know, in in Saudi Arabia and the government there going through that time period. Well, yeah, he had a very interesting upbringing. He, yeah, he loved Western music. Do you know he was a big civilization player? He was a huge gamer, loved playing civilization.

His favorite game to play. He would play it for 12, 13 hours at a time. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah. If there's one book I can recommend on Muhammad bin Salman. It is Medawi al-Rashid's book. She's, in my opinion, one of the best scholars on the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. But the Sun King by Madhawi al-Rashid came out in 2020.

So it's a massive game. He should go on Twitch. He should be. Yeah, he would do great on there. I mean, Saudi youth do really like him. A lot of young people there really like him. And he obviously loves games. He's invested millions into riot games.

and ESL and all of this? Yeah. So he, I read that over 50% of Saudi Arabia is under the age of 30 right now, which is just a crazy stat, if that's true. And they have the highest smartphone usage of any country in the Middle East by far. And so they, he is like trying to tap into the millennials and the zoomers that are coming up right now. And he's made a lot of reforms, which is why when he first kind of came on the national stage

people are talking about the crown prince he's kind of leading the country is he a great reformer and he got a lot of glowing press before the kashoggi thing about how he was making these changes because like he and some of it is probably a lot of window dressing when they're saying okay we're going to allow women to drive we're going to open up movie theaters we're going to let you listen to music in cafes and we're going to have you know the intermingling of the sexes those are all like undisputably good things i think right but the question was how much of that was he doing for the PR? And why, in your opinion, do you think he was mostly doing that for PR? Or do you think he's a realist and he's like, if I want to maintain power, I need to have

the younger generation appreciate me? And I think it's a little bit of both. He, I think in his opinion and his reading of things that for Saudi Arabia to exist as a state in a world where, You know, Aramco isn't worth two trillion dollars where oil is not the driving force of a lot of things, that things need to change a lot. The economy of Saudi Arabia needs to change a lot. And I'm sure in his opinion that in order to have like a big information technology sector, for there to be a lot of tourism, for all these things that he clearly wants, Saudi Arabia can't be quite as hardline religiously, at least in the law, as it has been previously, that the amount of power that Saudi religious police have and the amount of power that Hardline clerics have, that started about 50 years ago. They were always powerful.

They were always powerful because Saudi Arabia, when they were first experiencing that first glut of oil wealth, they needed teachers, they needed schools, and they didn't really have their own teachers, and they brought in teachers from Egypt. And those teachers were Iqan. They were a Muslim brotherhood. And it was already a pretty religious state. It was a pretty religious family. But that just sort of that enmeshed very hardline beliefs into the society of Saudi Arabia.

King Faisal, who I mentioned about 20 minutes ago, he, he was a big reformer. He, you know, he made it so there were TV stations so women could get education, all these things. Despite being very religious himself, he. had similar ideas to NBS. He thought that the kingdom did need to change a lot. And he ended up being killed by a sort of distant nephew because that nephew's brother, who was also a prince, was killed in a protest. And ever since then, Saudi kings have been very trepidacious about reforms. They've made a lot of concessions to the religious hardliners in their country and given the religious police a lot of power.

But for MBS, I think some of that, like, okay, women driving, that was a big thing that happened when they allowed women to drive. I think that's more window dressing. That's more he wants international headlines. It's a good change, absolutely. But if you look at the other rules around women, there still were problems like, you know, the laws around, you know, the laws around. female guardianship. There was still a lot of restrictions on what women could do. And with all things, Saudi Arabia, you kind of have to realize that like any expansion

of rights that they claim is happening, that's only happening for a few people. It's very much delineated by class. It's only really happening if you are, if you're Sunni, if you have money, if you're not a migrant worker. They're still, still, if you're, yeah, a migrant worker or your Shia or your, any of these other things, it's still a very difficult place to live. And it's still an incredibly restrictive place and scary place to live.

Really? Do the, hold on, do the religious police over there, do they still have, like, the authority that they used to? No, no, they don't have quite the authority that they used to. So do you think, I mean, this is my. Like, do you think that, like I said, a lot of it, like, it's window dressing, but do you think that a lot of it can be just, like, culturally enforced as like maybe there is some sincere push for some kind of progressiveness, but a lot of it is just culturally enforced or embedded? I mean, well, I do think that part of it is sincere. I do think that he does have these, he and a lot of other people and a lot of his supporters do have these sincere beliefs that the kingdom does need to change culturally.

I think, I don't know. We'll see how it plays out. I mean, there are risks to changing that, you know, that Faisal experienced and that other princes in the kingdom have experienced from hardliners. but MBS certainly seems more ready for confrontation than a lot of others. Yeah. But he still, didn't he still execute several women's advocates who are trying to, who are not protesting, but he did even though he made these allowances for women, he ended up executing some actors.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. And that is at the end of the day, if it's still. just as dangerous to be pro-democracy or to have any type of dissident opinion or to be gay or to be an atheist. It's still just as dangerous, especially if you're a woman. And there are still tons of executions to this day. Yes. I listen to a podcast of these two evangelical women

that they went over to Saudi Arabia on like Christian outreach ministries trip or something, invited by the, invited by the court. And they got to meet with MBS over. there and they they like prayed for him and one of them like tried to convert him to christianity during their meeting and you could tell like from how they were describing it he was just like smiling and nodding and just basically being like i'm just here so that you go home and you tell everybody with a great guy that i am but they actually they thought that this was like their moment from jesus it's like you've been chosen to convert the ground prince of saudi arabia to like to like southern baptist i actually saw a woman try to do that

at an airport bar once. It was probably the same vibes. Yeah. I mean, what if she had done it, though? Like, shoot or shoot? You never, I mean, that was, there was a dude that did that, what was that island? Oh, the Senegal? The Northern Central Island.

There was a dude that went there, like, and his mission was like, and so he paid like some boaters to stay out there for like four or five days or however it was. And he kept going back and he kept going back. And they were, they liked them and yada, yada, but like one time he said, don't come back. And that was the last time they seen him. they put his body up on stakes. It was like, yo. Speaking of island adventures, what about, what about his kick-ass party that he

threw like three years ago? MBS and a bunch of the other princes, they got this island, I think it was in the Indian Ocean. And basically they flew in 150 Instagram models from South America, Eastern Europe, had them all tested for STDs and then set them up in these deluxe villas and pit bull performed. I think like J-Lo was scheduled to perform also for this like private party and they had a fuckload of cocaine and then yeah so I mean they were going to have the best party of all time until until the liberal media found out about it and then they blew up his spot and he had to get out of town because his uncles were probably mad but he was going to have an awesome

party like by any objective means the guy the guy throws a rager but like is he it so that leads me to question like how much of of the religious stuff does he actually believe in at the end of the day and how much is he just like pretending to i mean you see the same thing and pretty much every gulf country uh everyone will preach one thing and the religious hardliner stuff for a lot of these countries it was it was a practical deal they made you know it's a great way to uh to execute social control it's a great way to keep everyone in line uh a lot of the times the place you're ruling over was already pretty religious. But, you know, let's not get confused.

These are incredibly rich guys who, you know, look, if you're an internet celebrity, you have one way of flying women out. If you own a Ramco, that's an entirely different league of flying girls out. Yeah. So at the end of the day, I'm actually glad that his uncle stopped that from happening.

Yeah. Because I don't want to compete with that. Dude, I bet Dan Bilzerian would get along real well with MBS. I bet they'd be like best friends. We should normalize that, though. normalize your ticket into the party a clean SDD test. That would change the game. Like, that's okay.

Or it's like a stoplight party where like the people that you wear like a red shirt if you've got herpes so you can hook up with other people that have herpes too. Okay. I'm with that. You can come to the party. Yeah. Like segregation regarding what disease you have. Yeah.

You wear like, like polka. polka dots if you've got HPV. Well, okay, are, don't, don't all men, like, latently carry the HPV virus? It's something like 70% of people above a certain age. I got vaccinated from it, like, several times when I was young, so I don't know about you older dudes. The younger generation doesn't, yeah, they don't know. You guys are dirty, bro.

You guys don't have that HPV. I don't got, but no, like my generation, it's something like 70% of sexually. active people have HPV because it's just it's everywhere and so if women get it it's actually it's not that big of a deal for guys except for the fact that we spread it and then when women get it that's where like

99% of cervical cancer comes from wait so did you guys actually get like warts on your dick no like I don't even know if I have it or not but I am I don't know I don't have it I'm a sexually active male of my generation so I sick I Yeah. Yeah, it rocks. But I don't, I don't think that I have it, but by the statistics, like 70% of people do. So who knows? Well, my generation doesn't do sex. So waste of the HPV. That's true. That's true. Michael Douglas, that's where he got. Actually, I should take it back. It is dangerous to men. If you eat too much pussy, Michael Douglas, he says that he got jaw cancer from eating too much pussy from HPV. He got HPV at the throat. So it can, I guess. It can't affect guys.

When the dip catches up to a lot of dudes, it's like, no, it's not the dip. It was the push. Yeah. So you, it was the tobacco. You talked about how, like, it's common in the Middle East for these different, for the oil states to have, like, different rules set aside for the ruling class as opposed to everybody else. It does keep them, it keeps everybody in line if you tell everyone that's beneath you, like, you have to observe these strict rules. And then you pretend to observe them by yourself. but you actually just go out and you party your dick off.

Do you think that the younger generation in Saudi Arabia, you think like what do the polls say? I know there's probably not accurate polling going on in Riyadh, but is a general consensus that like the younger generation likes MBS? That seems to be the case. I mean, of course, very difficult to reliably poll Saudi Arabia. But the vibe I kind of get from Saudis I've spoken to. and people who aren't Saudi themselves but, you know, speak the language, talk to a lot of people

from Saudi Arabia, have a lot of friends there, is that, you know, among millennials and younger generations that, yeah, he is quite popular. Yeah. I guess I can see that because he does, he like acts like a normal person sometimes. He's expressive. I guess that's the difference that I've noticed about him more than anything in all the media that I've seen is like he, he actually seems like a human being. as opposed to a lot of the older generation, which is very, they're almost like aloof, the Saudi

royal family, they don't show a lot of emotion, they don't react to things really, they just kind of, they wander around in their confidence. And I think that MBS at least like every picture that you look up of him, I don't know, he's got a great social media team, I think, and a great internet. He is very, very attentive or his court is very attentive to social media. But every picture that you see of the guy on the internet, he's like smiling or like enjoying. something. So it naturally makes you think, wait, is this guy better? So when we're talking about trying to pull Riyadh in Saudi Arabia, how much of the Saudi Arabians, because Saudi Arabia, the whole royal family is one tribe, are all of those, like,

technically Saudi Arabian citizens, are they all like related to the royal family? No. No, no, they're not direct descendants of the family. They could be related through marriage or distantly related. I mean, with 50,000 princes, they're going to be related to a lot of subjects. You know, people who. Oh, my God. At least. Yeah.

That I have seen the 50,000 figure quoted. Could be more. But yeah. I don't, I don't think that for the most part, though, that everyone is a direct descendant. Right. But somehow related. Yeah, they might be. I mean, you know, in some ways.

in some ways that a lot of people share common ancestors going back generations and generations. I think it's, God, there's some English king that, like, Obama and George W. Bush and everyone is related through. It's not Richard the Lionhearted. It's, I forget who it was. That's a weird conspiracy. I know that way. Yeah, that like all the presidents were related to one. Yeah, I know that one British king.

let's let's like it's yeah it's not a conspiracy that just it's just like a weird accent of a guy having a lot of ancestors but it is interesting how that works out except trump except trump except trump because he's scottish he doesn't have any like all those guys are related because that you know they have like a little bit of like anglo ancestry but Trump is just Scottish and German so he's not you know the prince that was promised the neome city that they're building over there uh it seems like the most cocaine idea of all time that's what's dangerous about these guys is they've got an unlimited supply of cocaine and an unlimited supply of all the infrastructure and abilities to execute all their cocaine ideas

and so uh the neom city sounds fucking insane but it also kind of rocks they're trying to build a line a line in the deserts desert. That's like, what, 2,000 feet tall, which is taller than the Empire State Building, and it's going to be about 200 meters wide. And then it's the line itself is going to stretch out. I forget how long it's going to be. It's going to be something like, I don't know, 150 kilometers. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just going to be a, it's going to be a massive city with everything built on top of each other where you can just walk anywhere that, like any place. that a human being would need to go in a city

would be within a five-minute walk inside this giant line in the desert. And he's starting, I think they're going to try to start construction on it pretty soon here if they haven't started already. There's just no claim that they've already started it. Yeah. There's just no chance that this works, right?

No, no. I mean, uh, the only state that I could possibly see being able to construct something like this would be China. And it's, this is like too stupid of an idea for China to make

so I don't think this is going to be real The Chinese don't do enough cocaine It sounds like it sounds like ACON You know like ACON city? Yeah, ACON's cryptocurrency city Yeah What was the name of his entire country going to be? I think it was supposed to be

Acon, wait Acon said whatever it is like this It sounds exactly like the ACON utopia Except it's going to be in Saudi It was just called Acon City I can think of a couple problems with this city that he's trying to build. One, it's in the middle of the desert, which who's going to live there? Like, who's going to volunteer?

He's counting on maybe, what, 5 million people volunteering to just move to Saudi Arabia to live inside this line that he's building in the desert. I don't see that happening. Then you'd have to figure out where to get all the workers to build it. And they would all be the migrant workers that you'd have to bring over to build this giant place but still that's a shitload of hiring and and managing that you'd have to do and that sucks that's a pain in the ass that no one's going to want to do donnie and i looked into this and also it's supposed to be totally renewable so they're just inventing the city that's going to take away

their their fossil fuel resource capabilities because they're going to build up like a a neutral city carbon neutral city and just invent the thing that's going to put them out of business yeah Do they have any celebrities like endorsing the line? Because I've seen some pretty impressive marketing videos that they've put together for this line that they're building. And it seems like they're, they've got a big commercial budget. I wouldn't be shocked if like David Beckham was like they gave him the penthouse suite in the line and he he starts doing videos for how incredible it's going to be. Oh, the graphic designers who get those contracts to just check will absolutely be endorsing the line. Yes.

but like the contracts they get to like put these crazy ideas it's a fruitition in like an image those guys must be the one who bank out from like because they probably have new ideas every week like oh the sheik wants a new makeup of a spaceship that just goes around the earth every day yeah like and they're like oh man this one's so fun to construct do you think that mbs is is doing a serious amount of cocaine um i think it's i think it's less cocaine than it is, you know, a boy who played Siv a lot grows up and gets to lead his own country. Yeah. It's like he's playing Siv in real life.

The thing that I love about the line is that every, it's like they preempt every question you would have about it. When you're like, okay, you're going to have this city that's the entire length of the country that's in one line and well, the population of New York in it. How are you going to power it? Oh, it's going to be totally renewable. Oh, why didn't anyone think of this? A totally renewable city that produces zero waste and, you know, grabs water out of the air to deal with the problem of how they don't. One of the things they said is they said that all of the water will be desalinated salt water, which no one can afford to do on like a mass scale on the scale you would need to do it for a city. But they just, they preemptively claim that they've solved every problem you would need to solve to have this be a real thing.

Yeah, quick question on desalination PFT just got back from guitar Did you taste any desalinated water? Not that I know of I did realize that I made a classic rookie blunder For a first time in the Middle East You know those hoses that they have Next to all the toilets

And I thought I sprayed my butthole with it Because I thought it was That's what it was for And then shit water got on the floor in front me I was like oh that's a mess This is impractical Somebody told me today that that was

that that hose is just designed to be used to spray down the stains on the toilet bowl after you get done taking the shit so you're spraying I just I sprayed it on my butthole one time because I spray shit across the I hit I hit the I hit the leather cheerio with it one time just because that's why I thought it was for I didn't want to be rude and then bad president for Westerner's abroad well I know I'm I'm admitting my mistake when bin Salman's like Westerners are uncivilized and that's who they're talking about so I How much would it cost as MBS starts to spread his soft power? And he probably will try to, what if he bought the Washington commanders? That's probably next up on his list. Is like, you know what? He actually might because the person that's rumored to buy it right now is Jeff Bezos. And MBS has beef with Jeff Bezos for some reason.

And so nothing would make him happier than to buy the commanders. And then I'd have to root for MBS for my entire life. Felix, the, the Jeff Bezos story is one of the most hilarious incidents of international espionage that I've ever heard about. You want to, you want to walk us through what happened with that real quick? Yeah. So this is, God, this was a crazy story. So, yeah, MBS and MBS and Jeff Bezos, they do not like each other. Um, MBS, his security team, uh, his, his, his own private spies hacked into Jeff

Bezos's phone and published his dick picks and his sex to Lauren San to Lauren Sanchez, that's her name, right? Yeah. His girlfriend is current, his current girlfriend, the infamous text, I love you a live girl. That's where that came from. That is out in the world because of MBS. They have smoke with each other because, you know, MBS did kill a Bezos employee. Koshoggi was a writer for the Washington Post.

And they, yeah, they, as you would expect for two guys with such immense resources, so much resources that they themselves could be nation states. Yeah, they have conflicting interests. Yeah. And we've gotten some really funny stuff out of their conference. Yeah. So what I read was that MBS met Jeff Bezos. They met face to face. He got Jeff Bezos's WhatsApp number because he's like, let's text. Let's link up later and build. Bezos gave him the number. And then they text, they exchanged pleasantries occasionally. And then at one point, MBS sent a video link in WhatsApp to Jeff Bezos. Like from his personal number to Jeff Bezos,

his personal number. That video link, then because it was on Bezos's phone, I don't even think he had to necessarily click on it. But that video started transmitting something like 2,000 percent more data out of his phone at that point. The speculation is that it was sending all the contents of Bezos' phone back to MBS's security team. And like a couple months after that link was sent, MBS then texted Jeff Bezos back, something like, like women will take all your money like guys being dudes just like joking around but it was a picture attached to that that text of a woman that looked exactly like Jeff Bezos's girlfriend and so it was like Mohammed bin Salman buzzing Jeff Bezos's tower to be like I got dirt on you

I got dirt be very very careful and then then it came out later that it was actually him that that hacked into his shit and then distribute like starts sitting like uh sending out his his dick picks to the press and stuff. That was crazy. Yeah, player move. What a player move. That was, I think that was the first time the world got introduced to that Pegasus spyware technology, which was like Israeli produced that was used by a big.

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, there's, there's a lot of weird overlap between Saudi and Israeli national security states. They have collaborated under the table for quite a long time now because they share a lot of common goals and common enemies. They're both, uh, they're both, uh, they're both. of Iran and Hezbollah, but, you know, they're definitely communicating in some ways. And yeah, this was Israeli software. Yeah, so I know you got to run in a second. I got one last

question for you just about like your general impression of that relationship between Israel and Saudi Arabia. Do you think that we're going to see at some point Saudi Arabia like come to the table with Israel and almost, you know, I don't want to say bury the hatchet entirely, but make peace and publicly make nice with them because I feel like Saudi Arabia knows that that's one move that would go a long way towards them being more legitimized in Western cultures? It's really hard to say because, yes, on one hand, if they had an open diplomatic relationship with Saudi Arabia, it would make them normal enough in the eyes of the rest of the world to put their capital to use anywhere. They could buy almost anything they wanted.

if they were seen as that level of normal. But the problem is, you know, Israel, and especially Israel in the last 20 years, is incredibly and popular, not just in the Muslim world, but really throughout the entire world. I mean, the current government is, you know, one of the most openly fascist democracies that we have on the entire planet. And it's one thing if you are. are making diplomatic relations with Israel as it existed, you know, under Ahud, Barack, which are still, you know, occupying Palestine and still committing horrible acts. But it's even less

tenable to do it, you know, in a government where there are just far right religious fanatics saying absolutely genocidal insane things about all Arabs and all Muslims. I do wonder, though, if his calculation is that within Saudi Arabia, among his young supporters, that they will accept this as sort of like a real politic goal, where it's like, okay, this might not be the most palatable thing, but we need this for Saudi Arabia to become like a modern country. I would, if I had to bet, I would probably say no, unless the Israeli government somehow gets more normal themselves, which I don't really see happening. Yeah.

Yeah, I just, I always think that that's like something in their, in their back pocket that they've got, where if they wanted to, and wow, Saudi Arabia just scored against Mexico right now. Ooh, damn. In the, in the 95th minute, I don't know what that means on any implication there. Poland was going to go through anyway, but that makes the tiebreaker goal differential instead of yellow cards. Okay, but if Saudi Arabia scores again, then Saudi Arabia goes through, right? if they tie next one yeah possibly i'm not sure about that but i know it was between poland and mexico let's see if mbs drops a bag to the ref and gives him an extra five minutes it was very funny seeing him uh seeing him at the opening ceremonies for the world cup because the emir of

katar was presiding over the ceremony and he had the the president of fita next to him and then next to the president of fita was mbs up there just like with this big smile on his face and you could tell that like it was a great it was like a fuck you moment from the ammese you moment from the mirror of Qatar to have him as his guest of honor being like, I got the World Cup in my tiny ass country and you have to sit here and watch it. It was, it's definitely like a, uh, a nice little metal that he can pin on himself when it comes to the games of like, who can collect the most, uh, the most seminal moments in Western culture amongst these, these, uh, Arab like oil states between those two. Aren't, yeah, yeah, weren't they part? I mean, they're all, they're all bad.

I mean, like, wasn't Qatar, wasn't Qatar and Saudi Arabia not doing well, weren't they? Yeah, no, there was a, yeah, there was a diplomatic crisis in 2017 where there was a blockade on Qatar, their naval ports and their airspace. It was really over a lot of it was over the perception that Qatar plays both sides, Saudi Arabia and Iran, but they kind of have to. They're a very tiny country that does share a lot of natural gas fields and oil projects with Iran. if you want to talk about a country that is an incredibly sophisticated media and soft power operation Qatar.

Yeah. That was another problem was they felt that like through Al Jazeera, the preeminent news source that they had been incredibly critical to Saudi Arabia. They also backed competing rebels in Syria.

That's another thing. Yeah. No, they got beef over there. And we could talk for a long time about Qatar because I've learned a lot about that firsthand. But I know you got to go. We'll let you run. Felix, thank you for joining us.

Thank you for having me. Yeah, come back again sometime. Thanks, Felix. Absolutely. Thanks, guys. Thanks, guys. Bye. See, guys.

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when people explain Valorant Valorant is like Overwatch mixed with CSCO it has very precise gunplay right where you have to like really it's not like call the duty we can just spray it's like very precise gunplay that's what CSGO was known for

but Overwatch had like agents with like abilities and stuff like that and so it's like a it's like a mash of the two and uh c sgo players traditionally don't really like valourn because one it's drawing a lot more players but um two it's it's a lot more busy than c sgo was got it all right well now it is officially official Mexico has been eliminated first time in 44 years eliminated in the group stage that's a real shame hate to see that oh wait wait so they won the game but they're still eliminated correct crying fans oh no just because they couldn't so they had to shut them out in order to win it was down to goal differential so they ended up with the same amount of points as poland

but they needed um their goal differential to be higher which they finished with a negative one goal differential in poland finished with zero damn it was just it was just a it was just a garbage time bucket too they were going to not go through anyway because um The tiebreaker after that is yellow cards, which is pretty crazy. They should just do shootouts and just get some wins. Yeah, this shit weak. I mean, that's just antithetical to like sports. You should just try to win.

Mm-hmm. Like, not this extra shit. Yeah, so this is, it's bad news for the United States that we have to potentially, and I am looking ahead after we beat the Dutch, but that will be matched up. most likely against Argentina. Fuck it. We ball. Yep.

Fuck it. We ball. Let's do it. Also, Mexico getting eliminated is funny. Messies. That's our World Cup. We advanced Mexico didn't. No, no, no. Our World Cup is the World Cup. Theirs is not.

They're Dunskey. We're still in this bitch. Messy's probably the only person who was on more HGH than Liver King. You think Messi was? Yeah, it's proven. He's like 5'4. Dude, look up Messi, like Argentina, or no, Barcelona, Barsa. like paid for his HGH treatments because he actually like needed it oh because he's so small

doesn't he have that human growth deficiency yeah so they like juiced him up he was he was supposed to be like 4-7 yeah and they gave him 132,000 dollars worth of HGH because he was so skilled wait is he only 5-4 now yeah wait messy yeah like the famous messy he's not 5-7 he's he's he's small still soccer players are usually not that big yeah it's not really beneficial to be super tall unless you're a striker and you're going for headers how tall is that defense been worse some of them are yeah yeah i guess that's true like vendike some full backs when you want to be a tall goalie yeah but you don't want to be too tall because then you you're far from the ground

like like if somebody were to shoot a shot down by your legs and you're you're a tall person that would be bad good question though mad dog no I just think it's funny If he's like, you can be too tall How tall is Christiana Ronaldo? He is, I think he's what, 6-4? 6-3, something like that? Wait, so then what's that? He's a striker.

So he wants to be tall? He wants to be tall, yeah, for headers. Hockey's like that. Is he the greatest soccer player of all the time? No, messy. No, he's not. Maradonna is. Who's that?

No, I'm talking about Ronaldo. Yeah, Diego Maradana is better than Christianano Ronaldo. So is messy. And who does he play? for him. Diego, he has passed on. He died two years ago. He used to play for Argentina and he played for Napoli and a lot of other teams. But he would, he was probably more like 5-5 from Argentina. He was like 5-5. He was fat. He did a shitload of cocaine. He had a mullet. And he was the greatest soccer players ever play. Hockey players, low-key short. Yeah. Some of them.

And there's some huge dudes. There's some big ones too. But everybody looks a little bit taller on the skates. But when you see a hockey player in public, you are usually surprised about how small they are. You should see D3 hockey players. Pretty small? You thought they were NARPs. What's a NARP? Non-athletic regular person. That's what you guys call.

What the fuck is that? Wait, A-Aryan, you didn't have that at Tennessee? A NARP? Yeah. No, this is a last 10 years thing. Oh, okay. No, this is not a thing in, no. When student athletes

refer to people who are not student athletes they call them NARPs. We're different? Yeah. Or when they're not in season so like a football player during the spring they're like

oh it's NARP season and they can act and they can act like they have no it's honestly just a douchey thing that athletes I can't get better I just can't keep up here. I was friends in college

with the golf team at Miami NARPs which they would call us NARPS and I was like you're the goal Yeah you're on the golf team. Let's pump the brakes on that. And I love them on. They're so fun.

But I was like, I mean. The funniest thing was the funniest thing was what's endurance sport athletes are NARPs. What's endurance sport athlete? Like cross country or swimming. I would agree with that. I could see 19 year old Billy at school just throwing that term around left and right. Yeah, Billy definitely you thought less. Yeah, at a school where about 70% of their students are athletes

If Billy and I went to college together at the same time He would Well, you played rugby Yeah, but you weren't account of that It wasn't a varsity sport Well, it could have been Yeah, no, you would have looked down on me No, no, it's all good, love the NARPs

Like that There was also It's okay, you guys are cool, it's fine There was also a term that people in frats used to use GDIs Oh, Jeet's? Is that what we called? I'm not going to lie, I've thrown that term around.

God damn independence for everyone that's not in a frat. Oh my God. Yeah. It's like, I've thrown that. That's worse. That's worse. That's not everything has to be an acronym. That's worse.

GD has just people who don't spend money to be at a frat. Yeah. There's like. Billy, you didn't have frats. I know. I was never been in a frat. I threw that term around once or twice. You were in a sorority?

Look at me. tell me that it wasn't a sorority. I don't know. I don't know if they had sororities in Miami. What's your sorority gang? Bang the set. Capadelta. Me and Kelly Kiegs are sorority sisters actually.

I never heard you banged the set before. Why you'd be so shy about it? Everybody else that would be banging that shit. I was, I mean, I wasn't like that invested in it. Like to the point where I wouldn't be banging it out on my podcast now. Like,

it was fun. They're going to be mad when you hear you say that. Yeah. I weirdly enough don't think a ton of my sorority sisters tune in to this. That's a violation. That's a violation. I'm now far enough removed from college that stuff I did in college is now like, why don't I do that? Oh, yeah, that's a mean.

That's a part of growing. Like what? That's stupid. Like NARPs, like starting to get some growth. That shit's pretty trash. I appreciate your growth, Billy. Sweet. we want to anything else that we want to talk about when it comes to MBS uh he killed anyone

people in a day or their executions oh yeah he also when he when he took power he uh he imprisoned like how many other princes tons of princes in the ritz carlton tortured him he took out the guy naeuf nae i read all these names very sorry if i mispronounce them if you're a saudi prince we apologize yeah actually you're happy you're fine but uh he like basically this dude naf he was the next in line he was like i'm totally gonna be the next in line but then mbs started making moves he became the uh secretary like the head of defense and started the whole yemen war stuff like said it was going to be a quick kind of like what putin said it was going to be a quick military exercise in and out and now they're in like a serious standstill war

with the Houthi rebels. And so it kind of had to do with Nyef trying to make inroads with the Trump White House. So Neif hired the Sonoran Policy Group, a lobbying firm in Washington with close ties to Trump team. Sonoran, which has been renamed Strike Global

Diplomacy after its chairman, was hired to provide NIAF's Interior Ministry, Broad Advisory Services in Washington. So they were trying to sort of make a better relationship with America and hopefully that would you know confirm that he would become the next so wait the crown prince isn't the head of the state uh the crown prince is next in line that's what crown prince means next in line to to take the crown and so right

now uh Muhammad bin Salman's father is the king yes but people are people are saying that he doesn't actually run the country that it's really MBS's project but Joe Biden has said that he will, he views the king of Saudi Arabia as his direct counterpart. So any diplomacy talks, like when he went over to Saudi Arabia, I think it was like over the summer or maybe it was in late spring and he met with them. He wanted to talk directly with the king saying that that's, that's his guy that MBS is not the legitimate leader yet. Right. So that's what's crazy about this whole thing. MBS isn't even the head honcho, but he's caught a lot of the shots. Yeah. I mean, it's,

generally regarded that he is in charge of a lot of stuff, but he doesn't have the title just yet. Also, isn't it kind of bullshit that a foreign entity can hire a lobbyist group to lobby our government? Yeah. Kind of problematic. Yeah. I agree. I don't like that. I don't like that at all. He also, I think it was the, he had a visit back in 2017 from the prime minister of Lebanon. Oh, he visits Saudi Arabia. And so the prime minister of Lebanon comes to chill and MBS has like some background intel on him and he's like, I think this dude is running with the Iranians right now

behind my back. So I'm going to hang on to him here for a while. And so he, he imprisoned him in whatever like super nice hotel he was staying in, wouldn't let him leave the country until he resigned. So he was like, dude, you're not going back to Lebanon until you resign your presidency. And so, yeah, and so he made him resign. And then he gets back to Lebanon and immediately annulls his resignation. He's like, it's like, I just said what I had to say to get out of there.

Who do you think, what would be the American equivalent to doing that? Like if we got the Bahamian president to resign while visiting the U.S.? Yeah, or maybe Justin Trudeau? Yeah. But they're almost too big. Yeah. Oh, MBS also has beef with Justin Trudeau. Oh, really?

Yeah, they sanctioned. It's called the, it is called the Canadian kerfuffle. After Canadian Prime Minister, Justin Trudeau, called for the release of the activist and general improvement of human rights in Saudi Arabia. The kingdom responded by expelling the Canadian ambassador from Riyadh, freezing trade with the Northern American country, and ordering all Saudi students based in Canada

and return home. We don't want to be political football in Canada's domestic politics. Find another ball to play with. Foreign Minister Adele Al Jubier said in the Council on Foreign Relations in New York City. Okay. So another beef that was started. And yeah. And then he also, this thing with Naif, so Naif's like basically imprisoned in Saudi Arabia currently.

So the former crown prince is now who MBS took out because MBS is so threatened by him somehow getting back into power and taking the king and the crown, he has him locked up somewhere and he keeps trying to get his finances out from like Swiss banks and wherever he has resources. But like the power of eternity keeps saying that he must be doing under duress. So they're trying to conserve all this riches outside of the country. But I wouldn't want to be this guy because apparently, actually this article came out yesterday in The Guardian explaining that Nyef was being hung by his ankles and tortured several times. And Nyef just like is in a real bad spot. That sounds bad. Yeah. Yeah, that sounds real bad.

I mean, this dude is only, you know, he was in line for the throne and because he's still like a threat, he's now just getting tortured. If I was part of anywhere close to this, I just take my Aramco money, run away to the West. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, why do you want all this power? Wouldn't you just be happy with a billion dollars severance? I mean, the amount of people that get killed around this family from other people in the family is. crazy like they killed a princess uh in 1977 one of king in being sauds king sauds great granddaughters

princess michel b infad al saud was executed by firing squad at age of 19 for alleged adultery she'd fall in love with the saudi ambassador to lebanon collid while studying there princess michel was blindfolded made to kneel and publicly executed on the explicit instructions of her grandfather and Khalid was forced to watch and then was beheaded. Oh, my God. That's fucked. That's pretty false. That's not lit.

This, I mean, I'm shocked that there hasn't been like a showtime series about the kingdom of Saudi Arabia. If you want a succession type show with all the action. Yeah. Like, Succession in Yellowstone, I feel have a lot in common in themes, be in succession, father, children, like trying to. maintain something with longevity and legacy like a Saudi royal family type show is historical fact like it would be a nonfiction show and would be filled with all the drama yeah um another another purchase that mbs has made uh over the years is well he loves yachts he's a big fan of yachts

and uh he saw that that bill gates was taking a yacht out for i think it was like five million a week and the yacht was called serene and mbs had been on that yacht before and really took a liking to it and he got pissed off that bill gates was now on the yacht that he used to be on so he said fuck it i'm going to buy this boat for like 400 million dollars just so that bill gates doesn't get to ever take it out again so he bought like a spite yacht which is pretty pretty good level of fuck you money and that's where that's where the painting the Leonardo da Vinci painting is right now Which it's kind of ironic because it's a painting of Jesus. So he spent like $500 million on a painting of Jesus to put on his big ass yacht that he only bought so that Bill Gates couldn't have it anymore.

That is the biggest middle figure. It is a Western culture I could think of. It is. It's a giant middle finger. Also, buying a yacht is so not financially responsible, like even for rich people. Yeah. Do you know there's a whole business about leasing people's planes? and like expensive assets so like taylor swift's plane got so much burn because she was leasing

it to other rich people to use and that's like the most fiscally responsible way to own that's the best way to do it yeah so just lease it out to people i've never really understood yacht life and maybe it's because i haven't been on a big yacht before but the people that love yachts that have like they put their cars and shit on them they go sail around the world and then they Like the boats, the boats themselves never really look. Don't get me wrong. They look nice. They look very nice.

Yeah. But I don't see, when I look at a giant mega yacht like this, I don't see $500 million. When I see like a big ass mansion, like a castle, I could see $500 million. But when it's a yacht, it's like, I don't know. Looking at your t-shirt, Newport, fuck the New York Yacht Club, speaking of the yachts. Yeah. Have you ever seen the yachts in Newport? I have not.

No, this is just about. Is that Newport, Rhode Island? yeah this is about this is about the america's cup yeah the australia new uh usa battle yeah and the america's cup yeah so but like uh if you're ever there you can walk by a lot of the yachts park there and you can kind of glimpse inside if you like cranied neck the right way and there's a door open they're like those mansions on the inside decoration wise like interior decoration all that like yeah luxury but it's on a gigantic boat yeah i mean i i i understand understand the concept of it. I'm just saying when I look at them, I don't see $500 million.

I also think the value on that yacht. I think the allure also is about the yacht is that because like famous people get so famous and they like require so much security and privacy. It's self-contained. It's self-contained. It's a status. It's a status thing. Roman Abramovich, the Russian guy, he has like three or four of them. And it's a status thing. I was with, when we were in St. Martin, we were with the people of the island. And he leaves one there. even not even when he's there he just leaves it there as like a status thing and he has this thing called the toy boat it's the size of one of them but it's all his toys there's like smaller boats on at jet skis it just carries all of his like toys like Jesus like a mini

yacht on board the yacht yeah that rocks yeah I mean that's just when you have so much money how much did he sell Chelsea for had another couple billion yeah probably didn't even mean anything to him or his assets still like frozen I don't know I don't think so. Is he a Putin guy? You might, yeah, and when the whole Ukraine thing happened, they froze all of his assets. That's why he had to sell Chelsea.

And they were also, like Chelsea couldn't do a whole bunch of stuff, but he sold it for, I think, a couple billion. I have seen the insides of these yachts, because if you look at the names on the sides, they always, if you look them up online, they always have a full spread of pictures on the inside. Don't get me wrong. They're super impressed.

Like I get it I just don't get why it's like half a billion dollars I'm just going to say A lot of the yachts all look the same Yeah They're all just like white black windows Yeah why don't we Why don't we like murder out the site

Put a wrap on it Like come on Like billionaires You're not getting fancy with it I'm shocked that Red Bull hasn't sponsored Like a massive yacht I bet there's a Red Bull That's right up their alley

Red Bull Although at the same time If you own a giant yacht You're probably not looking for like an energy drink sponsor right yeah to to take this thing off the payments also uh you know who's really been yachting the right way McGregor that's that's one guy who like respect his yacht life why's that he just he's always on his yacht he like I feel like he lives on the yacht he has a sick Lamborghini boat have you seen that it's like a couple million dollars I think

that man cannot fight anymore how much money does he have let's look because that seems like he got he's like a hunter from Floyd didn't he yeah that was a I think Floyd got more than him but no it's I'm talking about

from being a part of it proper uh 12 I'm seeing net worth of 200 million I was gonna say he's probably around that that's celebrity net worth though we're not we're not sure yeah they they have me solo on there

so it's got what they got you at type of day They have me at like I don't think I'm even listed Billy Football Net Worth This will be good Corny Business Insider Forbes Wikipedia and IMD

Oh no it's Billy Schuller I was gonna say I'm not listed I was joking Didn't they have PFT at like 100 million Probably Probably a little low A hundred million Yeah

No that's that's from two years ago That's that's before That's before Penn got involved. Yeah. They got you at two M's. Cool two M's. That's without the stock. Imagine one day I pop up on there.

It's like $15,000. I'm just like, yeah. Yeah, where's the macro dosing yacht? Dude, the macro yacht would be intense. I would get like a tie-dye yacht. How sick would that be? Go city to city. Is that allowed, do you think,

or are there like maritime rules for what you can, what color is that? I actually think that this yacht's too cool. I think the white has to do it. Maritime HOA. I think that's a thing. Imagine that like a boat comes up to your boat. It's like, hey, I couldn't help but notice the life boats.

You need to take the chrome off those. That's like, I mean, that's like a yacht club. Isn't that like an HOA kind of thing? Yeah. Yeah, it's true that you probably do have to abide by certain restrictions. Like certain rules. And Billy just kind of brought up a good point like in terms of like temperature and the black. Now that I think about it, it makes total sense to have blacked out windows so it doesn't get too hot from the beating sun in the white to reflect the heat off the water.

Yeah. I would do mirror. I would put like a reflective coating on there. That's what the side of the line is supposed to be. Yeah. Would that make it extra hot? I don't know. It just look cool.

I think it would block the sun. Yeah, my yacht's going to be. How big does a boat have to be before it's a yacht? is Dave getting a yacht? I don't know. That sounded like something Billy Red on Reddit where he's like supposed to pretend like he hasn't heard about this.

No, but like Connor McGregor, if he's really only worth $200 million and he's just... Only worth $200 million. Only, right. But like compare it like... Yeah, I don't know about Dave's yacht purchasing plans. But my...

I didn't know $200 million was enough to like be yachting all the time. Yeah, because you don't have to spend 500 million on a yacht. Yeah, you can get a yacht for a million dollars and be Gucci. How big does a boat have to be to be considered a yacht?

Looks like 35 feet. That's a tiny ass yacht. That's embarrassing. You get laughed off the dock, homie. Oh, there's no official point, according to scoutboats.com. Anything over 40 feet? Yeah, mountain, yeah, when does a hill become a mountain? Yeah, they don't have a minimum

size. So I'd say, I could get a yacht. I could buy a yacht tomorrow. hell yeah I actually have a yacht little one seater yet I have a yacht do you yeah

so also if you're over 79 feet that's a large yacht that is an official classification okay because you get a big yacht and then there are the super yachts which are the ones

that have the crew and all that shit I have a yacht that I go fishing in okay I'm looking at the largest yacht is built by German shipyard Lusen Yats Larson Yachts

What's called? It's called the Azam A ZZ AM It's owned by Shik Khalifa bin Zayyad L Nayan He's the second president of UAE

The ruler of Dubai RIP he just passed away $600 million That is a giant The super yacht It's 13,000 tons It's got a pool on it Oh I'm sure it's got

Probably probably multiple pools It's got an open floor plan so it breathes that's nice uh yeah this this is fucking this is baller oh yeah i once met a dude who was uh part of like the yacht crew and uh he was from i want to say Croatia yeah they have yacht week up there yeah and he's just like yeah i just bounce around the globe going like port city to port city it's awesome get paid well don't have to pay rent yeah i'd say that sounds like a pretty good that's a pretty good lifestyle do you guys want to do some voicemails yeah i'm trying to think uh i'm trying to think if i've any stuff i've been

keeping pent up while i was sick