Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Most Painful Animals ft. Coyote Peterson

Episode Date: August 30, 2022

On today's episode of Macrodosing the crew (minus Arian) interviews one of the biggest names in the wilderness community, Coyote Peterson (01:41:35). You'll hear everything from how he started his channel 'Brave Wilderness' to the reality of coming face to face with some of the most deadly creatures on the planet. Also a Big T discovery that left the podcast in shambles. All of this and so much more on the show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macro dosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. Welcome back to macro-dosing. Hello, Macrodosians. We got Billy in studio. We got Big Teen Studio, Avery, Mad Dog. Arian is out. He had a previously scheduled doctor's appointment.

Hopefully, we'll catch up with him and he'll give us the lowdown on what he's doing this week. It's not, trust me, he's fine. but he's doing something that could be kind of interesting so we'll catch up with him later on that before we get into today's show which features a great guest very nice guy Coyote Peterson you recognize him from Brave Wilderness on YouTube

he's been stung and bitten by the most painful animals in the world a very nice guy and I think that him and Billy are now best friends I think Billy works for him for free now and Billy is just going to leave this podcast and team up with him in the future but before we get into all that good stuff I'm here to talk to you about game time

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Are you welled? Welmed. Well, that's perfect. That's how you know he's in the zone. Yeah. We got, it's not big tea today. It's sweet tea today. Southern style, sweet tea.

Just because you're doing just neutral. You're doing good. Oh, I see. Everyone loves sweet tea. I see. Long Island iced tea. That'd be another cool nickname when you throw it off the angry orchards. Totally.

Avery also came down to the shore this weekend. I did. Avery has the Bronco. sweet car love it was a lot of fun it was a great time it was a good macrodosing mini field trip down to asbury Park I liked having all you guys around was good vibes in the house Billy made his bed and he did a pretty good job at it mad dog made her bed she did honestly I'm being totally honest here if I'm if I'm grading visitors on their bed making prowess Jake is number one obviously Jake is just he's on a different level

when he comes to make a cut from a different cloth yeah I think Billy made his bed better than you. Yeah. Good for you, Billy. Get dunked on. Sorry. Yeah. No, you guys were both

great house guests. We love having you. It's sad because the summer's over now. It's not over. You know what I realized? It's all a state of mind. So I was thinking about this. This is my second fall, not going to school.

I was just about to stay the same thing. And the first fall, I played scared. I played scared because I got into that mindset. Like, oh, we're back to school. Like, that side of sort of mindset. I was like, wait a second. I can go to the beach until December. Yeah, no school.

No school. No homework. Yeah, I can go. And if I want to swim, I'll swim. The sun's going to be out sometimes. Like, if you see, like, if it's September and, you know, 55 degrees, the water's still warmer than it is in like May or June sometimes. So you can still swim. Yeah.

So I'm not stopping. Billy's realizing that he's leaving. He's realizing he's an adult now. Yeah. So it's a double-edged sword because. it's summer, but summers don't hit the same after you graduate from school because you don't have summers off unless you're a teacher. But for us, there's no difference. Like we were still doing our jobs. We were just going to the beach a lot more. And you can continue to go to the beach

as long as you do your job. How about that? Yeah. I'm going to keep going. And I don't mind the cold. I love cold water. Yeah. I want to be out there. Big takeaway from this weekend, Billy did not catch a seagull. On Friday, I put a thousand dollar bouncy. I said if Billy, can catch a seagull with his bare hands a thousand bucks so i saw those tweets how long was he actively trying to catch a seagull two hours no come on bill it was it was it was i didn't want to be antisocial in run around catch a seagull for a grand pf t i wanted to enjoy my weekend it was it was often on i'd say in terms of active time hunting a seagull it was probably more like 45 minutes but he was still like in Seagull.

He was on the watch for nearby Seagulls. You were strategizing. About two hours. Yeah. He spent a lot of time thinking about it. Billy actually deputized a group of like eight year old girls to help him get the seagull. And he offered to pay them, what, a hundred bucks?

Yeah, because if I had gotten a thousand bucks for catching the seagull. But do you know that if the girls had caught the seagull, then that's their money? I know. It was at that point where I was just like, I'm not going to, you know, honestly, I've gotten to the point where it's like, I'm not. going to look like an idiot chasing after a seagull you know it's not worth it to ruin the weekend how would that have ruined the weekend it would have made the weekend better you would have gotten a thousand dollars i mean i was chilling at the beach i wanted to chill at the beach i don't want to be

running around chasing seagulls presumably tax free from some of the things you've said on this show yes yeah we've been under the table there was some extenuating circumstances but if it was a different time what were those extenuating circumstances we're chilling that's the extenuating circumstance as you were chill. You were chilling too hard. I was chilling too hard. I wasn't agro. It was funny because he had this army of girls running around. I said that he was like Joseph Coney with his child army trying to hunt seagulls. And at one point, I saw Billy like standing back and all the girls were going after these seagulls. And I said, Billy is like, it's like watching a pride of lions attack something because the women are the hunters while the male stays behind and just

kind of sons himself and naps for a little bit. And I turn around and I look at the, these girls and they're actually on all fours crawling across the beach exactly like lionesses were you did a good job in terms of outsourcing your hunt yeah and then the parents of the kids we were a little worried because we're like maybe these parents aren't going to be that happy that some stranger is sending them out to go catch birds but the parents were like oh this is awesome free babysitter yeah we're going to get hammered on the beach while billy's off taking care of our kids and then he played jackpot with them and hit them in the face like No. Okay. I was playing jackpot and I was throwing the ball up super high in the sky. And these kids were catching

them with the ball with their face. It wasn't my fault. No, what happened. I blame the parents. What happened was Billy got really excited about like having all these kids excited to be playing with him because Billy at heart is an eight year old. And so he started, would you say like 20 bucks? He said you were going to I was throwing up the ball for cash amounts. Like I was playing jackpot with actual money because like to them, the money was like like one dollar to them was like a hundred dollars so I was like one dollar but Billy through this one ball so high in the air it was it was a volleyball right yeah it's a volleyball he chucked it up super high in the air and this poor girl runs over to the spot where it's going to land she was pretty athletic she was quick yeah she got under the ball put her hands up and it

went right between her hands and hit her right in the face yeah you probably sent it up maybe 50 feet in the air sounds like she wasn't all that athletic it was only alive it wasn't dead or alive. I was doing $5 alive so they had to catch it. No Bounces. Jackpot's a great game. Adult jackpot, I think, would do well on ESPN. We used to call it 500. Oh. Yeah.

I've heard both. Yeah. Who do you think would be the best professional athlete at 500? Just out of just a tall receiver. Yeah. You think so? LeBron. I mean, LeBron. Or like a punt returner. No, too small. Yeah.

Because you need to get a rebound. Yeah. You got a jump. So I would say, yeah, a good tall receiver like dk would probably be pretty good doesn't involve a lot of side to side i would say that um or yonis or kd because they're so much taller yeah i was going to say maybe maybe yonis can jump higher than kd he's got longer arms i think yonis might be the goat right now or you could get like boban bow ban would be pretty good he wouldn't even have to jump yeah but he couldn't get like the dead or live balls that's true that's true but in terms of strictly catching i think I would go with Giannis. I think hands down he would be the best. I know this episode's about

animals. My thoughts and prayers go out to Po the Ravens mascot. It's tough scene. Faking. He's faking it. I forgot they were playing the commanders that game. Sorry. It's okay. He's faking it, though. Poe's faking it. He was not, I watched the replay. His left knee does not bend. It doesn't buckle. He's milking it. You know how mascots are sometimes. Is there anything more demoralizing and tearing your ACL on a mascot costume and then getting gritty on? Yeah, it's pretty bad, except so Big Cat was very impressed

that he kept the mascot head on as he got carted off. That shows dedication to mascot life. I'm almost positive that he is not seriously hurt. I think it's a big stunt because Poe's seen like bloopers taking over the world, right, Big T?

Blupor's taking everybody shot. I was going to say, did you guys see Billy's nemesis blooper just destroying kids on the football field? Yeah, blooper is, he's taken over the viral shine of all the mascots recently. He's the goat. I think Poe saw that and Poe's like, you know what?

I got to make a name for myself. I'm going to fake an injury. So that little bitch, he's fine. I mean, I got to be honest, bloopers, like, I'll give him his flowers. Like, it's fun banter, but he has really changed up the mascot game. Yeah. Like, I know more about blooper than any of the Braves. Yeah, exactly.

Like, good for him. He's the goat. He was creating a lab by the CDC. Hmm. Interesting. Another common blooper win over you, Billy. When did he get, when did he start getting popular around 2019 and the 2019? Interesting.

That's very interesting timing. He was born in Wuhan. Hmm. They were doing gain of function research on the Phoenix Sun's gorilla, and they came up with blooper. Well, the Philly Fanatic, the Philly Fanatic was also built in a lab. Was he? Yeah. The Philly Fanatic, he was a cool mascot.

He used to get into fights with Tommy Lissorto all the time. Like actual fights. Tommy Lasota tried to like rip his his mascot head off and throw him on the ground. It was like actual bad blood. The Tommy Lassort would fight anybody. But yeah, I feel like bloopers kind of, he's taking a lot of the air out of the other mascots. There's got to be some jealousy there. I wouldn't be surprised to see the mascots kind of team up against him. Yeah. Honestly, they need to, he's like Thanos. Yeah. What sport do you think it's most important to have a good mascot in? Baseball. I don't know. Because there's so much more time. NBA is super important because the mascots get their own shows.

Yeah, they're like on the court. They're gymnasts and stuff. They're jumping off trampolines, doing dunks. Yeah, but I feel like there's, I feel like the dancers are more of the attraction. I don't know. I feel like it's nice to have a good mascot baseball. It's great to have a good mascot in football. I love Jackson DeVille from Jet.

from the Jaguar. See, I think NFL, it doesn't matter at all. College it matters. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a little bit different in college, too, because I love live animal mascots. Right. I think live people mascots. I think, yeah, that's true too. West Virginia, Mountaineer, the the lepericon fighting Irish. Yeah. I really love Smokey. I think Smokey is my favorite college mascot. That's a good one. Honestly, the first mascot that really, you know, had an impact on me as a child, was probably the Oregon duck. Yeah, puddles. Puddles with the push-ups.

Yeah, Puddles was great. And then you remember the Robo Duck. I love talking about the Robo-Duck. Yeah, yeah, the hatching is one of the funniest videos of all time. They tried to make like a swaggy, like year 2000 version of Puddles, the Oregon Duck, and they hatched it live on the field, and he jumped out. And he had like an eight-pack. He looked like he had Batman's body.

Yeah. And he started, like, dancing around. It's like, watch out the Matrix is now. was involved in mascottery uh drake man drake man drake man drake the roboduck was uh in all time marketing fail oh scared by organ it's a terrifying looking thing like if i was a child and that thing like came up to me but i think they they underestimated or they maybe they um to borrow a quote from george w bush they mis underestimated why people liked puddles the duck because he's goofy

and he's got this like kind of Donald Duck thing going on and you don't expect him to be doing anything cool but then he comes out and knocks your socks off and everybody loves puddles. He's a goofy, funny, silly mascot and they're like, you know what, we're going to make him aggressive. We're going to make him into, yeah, like Neo from the Matrix if he was in a duck outfit.

And it was a big flop. But I would say Smokey's number one. I love Smokey. Obviously love Mike the Tiger. Mike the Tiger's great. Love the Husky at University of Washington. I got to meet the Husky last year at the Apple Cup. That was a great moment.

We bonded. What are some other good live? Oh, Ralphie, the Buffalo. When we're out at University of Colorado, we went to the stadium for a little bit, and I just wanted to meet Ralphie. But Ralphie is kept in an undisclosed location at a nearby farm. And fun fact, they had to replace the last Ralphie. They only use female buffaloes because they're more docile,

and they're easier to control. control. The last Ralphie had to be retired when she was just like, I don't know, a young Buffalo because she kept growing. She grew too big and was too hard to control. So like this, this chick is out of balance right now. We need a we need a younger, smaller at Ralphie. I remember watching a YouTube video of the tryouts that they have for the kids to run the Buffalo. That's pretty cool. There's really no training involved. And it's always funny when, when Ralphie gets like kind of out of control. Yeah, I mean, what are you going to do?

You can't do anything. There's nothing. Absolutely nothing you can do. Bivo is a cool mascot too. He's always like near the end zone. Once every couple years, it'll be somebody that like, I don't know,

a wide receiver that runs out of the back of the end zone and almost runs into its horns. Remember when he tried to kill Uga a couple years ago? That was awesome. That was sick. I was going to say Ugg is a great one. Yeah, Ogg is good. But their rivalries badass.

Like Bivo and Lugo. Oh, yeah, no, Bivo tried to kill him. Yep. What would have happened if Bivo had killed to Uggah before the game. Do they postpone the game? Well, I think Uggah would have, if Uggah actually, because bulldogs were meant to back down bulls, like

that was the original breeding purposes, and there are videos of Bulldogs, English Bulldogs, backing down bulls to this day. So, we might be overestimating Bivo. I don't know, man, those horns, like it, it's so big. I mean, backing down a bull is literally what they were bred to do.

Yeah, but still, I think if Bivo gets one shot, Uga is, he becomes a shishkabat on Bivo's horn. I like the bird mascots too I always like it when the birds fly away That's always fun That happened Air Force was playing

I think they were playing a bowl game Against Georgia Tech And they have a falcon And the falcon just left Yeah and you can't do anything You get the bird back It's like the bird just decides to peace out I think he ended up coming back

Like late in the game Here's the video right now of UGA and Bivo This was before What game was it? The Sugar Bowl a couple years ago They need to stop breeding flat-faced the look on Uga's face

if you can pause it like right when he sees right there back one frame well I don't think Ogo was given a chance I think he's pulled away too fast no no right here he sees and he's ready to dip August sees it coming in

he's like I'm out that's he didn't even make an attempt to bring it down also shout out whoever that lady was on the sideline that dove out of the way she was in more danger than the bulldog was she almost got caught in the crossfire did they have an alternate angle here yeah there we go

oh yeah he was running through barriers that lady almost watch this lady whose idea was this I don't think Bivo even saw the bulldog yeah that's what Bivo is going Bivo's going after that bulldog but can you I don't think you can see

yeah dude look the horns go all the way down like he he was aiming for Uga that's a 15 yard penalty I mean think about it Think about how bored people were. Not the SEC, just the Big 12th. Yeah. Think about how bored people were before the internet

where they're just like, hey, this cow has big horns. Let's try to breed it with another cow, big horns. See how big we can make these horns? That's what you would do. Yeah. You would definitely do that. Other great mascots. What other great live mascots do we have?

Oh, the mule at Army is pretty cool. Oh, yeah. I got to hang out with them. I didn't know they had a live one. Yeah, a few years ago. Well, they always steal them? South Carolina's Gamecock

who you saw they were renaming and the overwhelming winner in the poll was Cock Commander and they just came out They renamed him Election rigged

Election rigged Let me find it It was something stupid I'm going to run to the capital of South Carolina It wasn't Cock Commander Yeah that's That's election interference

Yeah That's messed up Like he clearly won that vote Jamie has the Duke Dog Everyone knows that First FBS game this weekend You're excited Can't wait

Was it Middle Tennessee Middle Tennessee Give me a scouting report Right now I think JMU is six point favorites Yeah it was a touchdown or so Yeah I think MDSU used to be a pretty good program But they're not that great anymore

Big blue right They're the blue Raiders Yeah I think I like JMU It's tough to come into Bridgeforth Stadium I mean you have to win that first one as an FBS member. I'll say this. If we lose that game, I think we're out of the college football

playoff. It's going to be tough. Yeah, it's going to be hard to make that one. I also think they're disbarred from participating for the first two years, but that's messed up. It is stupid. It was so dumb what they did. They took away the ability for all JMU teams to compete like the college world series, college softball world series, soccer playoffs. That was the, what conference were they in before? They were in Atlantic Sun. No, they were in the Colonial.

Yeah, they did that. Yeah. But then also when you move to the FBS, your first like two or three years, you can't be in a bowl game. Which Georgia Southern moved to the FBS, and I think went like 10 and 2 or 11 and won their first season and couldn't be in a bowl. That's messed up. That's messed up. The general is the new name of South Carolina's game cock mascot. I don't like that.

Come on. They're all running around with that beat out. Cock commander, Cluck Norris, Coop, Brewster. cockadoodle do, kickin chicken Marco Pollo and Captain Cluck Okay, I like Brewster Brewster's cool

I think Brewster is my second favorite name behind Cock commander but it's a distant second Oh by cockadoodle dude I terrible name Yeah Chicken McChicin Fees I mean they're all running around with

Go Cox Shirts on anyway I mean they really go after that at the stadium so why not have the Cock commander Sneaky the most annoying place to play in college football that people don't talk about enough they just play this horrific gamecock sound the whole game it's so really every third down it's like and nobody ever they always talk about like USC playing their fight song every down and then stuff like that no no it's

south carolina yeah that sounds annoying don't they they play sandstorm there too right that's their big tradition yeah um i well so big tea i'd like to say thank you for encouraging us to go to this Florida game because I had a great excuse. I was going to come out of retirement and play in a rugby game down in Texas. So they're doing, they call it the Silverbacks team, which is anybody over the age of 34. And they get these games together where you have rolling subs so you can sub yourself in and out whenever you want. And there was a three game tournament that I was going to play in that my old team, the Austin Huns asked me to participate in. And I was going to come out retirement go down there oh no it's on september 24th can't make it i have worked that weekend yeah

so thank you you've got an arm to protect also that's true yeah i don't know what's going on with this um i'm gonna get a second opinion on it in a couple days and see what's going on with the elbow you got to put your strap back on i do that strap doesn't do shit though it's like i'm i'm actually get just chemicals yeah bill you keep talking about these research chemicals yeah you know i was going to see if you could do it naturally try to be natty but i think we got get me the Gear. Get me the chemicals right now. I saw this really interesting photo of a attendance record from ancient Egypt. And it also had in the hieroglyphics if they weren't in attendance, it was workers. It gave them their excuses of why they couldn't make it. And then if it was an acceptable excuse. So a list of acceptable excuses. I like that Billy spends his free time researching excuses. He's drained all. all the ones from like the modern world so now he's no I just I found some excuses

I found this and I mean it gives us a peer into did you Google excuses no I didn't Google excuses excuses for missing work yes I was it's part of my bit so one of them was embalming his brother so funeral rights okay embalming the second one was sick which is classic one third one was Brewing beer, which was really interesting.

So you could skip work to go brew beer because apparently beer at that time was one of the only sources of, you know, liquid because the water in that area in that there was like bacteria. That's why like wine was used to disinfect water, but beer was for the working class. So brewing beer was a totally acceptable reason to not show up to work. Wow. Times have changed though, Billy. Yeah. They've changed. Don't try using that one.

What else was there? Was that it? Yeah, those were the three that were disconcerned. Because everyone else, it was like 10 people, three didn't show up. What do you mean? On the certain piece of tablet they found. Okay, got it. 10 people, three didn't show up.

Got it. Yeah, that's a pretty high ratio. 30% of your workforce gone. I can't wait for you guys to listen to the Coyote Peterson interview. He's a crazy dude. Crazy dude. And like I said in the intro, in case you skip the ads, don't skip the ads because I leave little Easter eggs in there for what you're going to expect.

Billy and him have something cooking, something very serious cooking. And I'm very excited about it. Mad Dog, talk to me about the Harry Styles chicken McNugget Gate. What's happening? Have you heard about that? Somebody threw chicken McNuggets at Harry Styles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Yep, you just had to film the end and what you're talking about. Yep. First of all, our guy won VMA's album of the year last night. Oh, very impressive. I didn't know that the VMAs were happening. Yeah, that and Taylor Swift announced a new album, so I'm going to be annoying as fuck for the next two months. I saw that meme.

Yeah. And so the chicken McNugget thing. So this is at like a lot of popular people's concerts, but Harry's concerts, the way that his stage is set up, it's in the middle of MSG, so it's not, you know, the stage and then the rest of the people, like everyone's around him, you know what I mean? So people throw things on the stage all the time, like phones or, you know, know bras or flags whatever and people threw like chicken nuggets and he's like what what the fuck like why basically just like why the fuck you're throwing chicken nuggets up there nothing too

crazy if you think about other things that have been thrown at him like that's actually kind of mild what else has been thrown at them people throw their phones like every night why why would you throw your phone at somebody get his number no to like but then he has your phone no people are like they start the recording and then they throw their phone hoping he'll like that he'll like pick it up and be like hello I'm Harry and then give it back to his security and then they give it back to you because he's definitely done it once so once you do something once it's like it's kind of like the thing it's like if I sign an autograph for one person I got to sign for a thousand yeah so it's like so people do that all the time in the pit they'll throw their phone up on stage and hope that

he sees it or like they'll be like can you call my mom on it or like shit like that um a lot other times they throw flags um braws kind of i feel like that was more a one direction thing that they would throw bras and stuff now it's now it's more out that was an outdated assumption by me no it wasn't outdated but i mean chicks have been throwing bras that's the beat for a long time we did a show i think at the house of blues one time with pup punk and ravi brought his own bras on the stage and like put him on his microphone stand that's sick he's like look at these bras that set a precedent asking but nobody threw bras people just threw bud lights at them i also feel like the pup punk demographic again i love put punk i feel like the most of the demographic there though

isn't isn't really like a bra throwing type yes you know yeah just chicks with giant boobs that can't afford to get rid of a bra they need the support for the rest of the right yeah yeah i've noticed that too about our concert if you look if you're looking for that buy tickets to pop punk yeah yeah come to ocean's calling ocean's calling music festival A bunch of girls with big tits. Yep, that's all it is. It's crazy. Like, looking down the crowd as well.

The funniest part about that concert was, as people were throwing beers at Robbie. I don't know who the first one was. But when you're on stage, you don't really see the beers when they're in flight because all the lights are on you. Right. And so Robbie's almost getting hit by all these beers. And he gets really mad by the end of the show, like actually furious. Oh, yeah.

And he tries to jump into the crowd to fight people. And he has to be escorted off stage. like I think his brother grabbed him was like Robbie it's not worth it stay back and Robbie gets backstage and then he gets up to go back on stage and try to fight somebody it was why I've never seen Robbie get into mode like this

What? Robbie's going full Sid Vicious Yeah It was punk as fuck man Well and also it's like If you're getting beer cans thrown at you No matter what the situation is like That's annoying

Yeah they wouldn't do that with Coors lights though We've never had a Coors light Because people finish their Coors Light People throw out trash Yeah exactly So full beer cans coming at Robbie. You talked about the stage set up for Harry. The stage setup at the VMAs might have been the worst I've ever seen.

It was like a V. It was like a triangle. But inside of the triangle, there were two little triangles. And it looked like these people were trapped in there. I got to show you the picture of this. Like concentric triangles? Yeah. Hold on.

Let me see. Yeah, that sounds awful. It's like really small. Did you see Young Gravee with Edison Rays mom too? Yeah. So I don't really. That's got to be fake. Oh, if you're a milk guy, check out the Barstle store.

There's a whole line of milf merch. Man, I like football. Man, I love fall. If you like Ben Mintz, please buy it, or he's going to be executed. I don't know. I feel bad for Addison. Imagine, like, PFT, if you were my dad. Yes.

And you, like, got divorced from my mom and then showed up at the VMAs with, like, a much younger woman. I'd be so pissed at you. Yeah. Yeah. Who do you show up with? Young great. young gravy showed up with Addison Ray's mom Oh he showed her they were they went together

Together and we're making out They were making out on national television And your daughter's the famous one Yeah I didn't know that they actually went together I thought he just saw her in the red carpet Uh-uh they came together and then just were making out I can't even Imagine how mad I'd be at my mom

I'm gonna sound super old but Who's Young Gravy? No I know who Young Gravy is As of a couple weeks ago Addison Ray what is what do I know her from TikTok, big TikToker. Okay. She's like the second in command to Charlie Demilio type of thing. What does she do?

That's a fantastic question. She wiggles her nose. She does dances that other people make. Yeah. That's correct. Yep. I want to be honest, this TikTok fame thing, I, I think it's going to be terrible. I think they're starting to fall off.

Yeah. But like since I know, it's like I've met some of them, the way that they like rose to fame so quickly and so fast and it's not like there was any sort of apparatus around it like it's a scary it's the newest type of fame that's like so like instant i mean it's classical with the internet but like we talk about child stars but at least child stars had like agents people around them like people guiding them in some low respect and they still ended up right and it's like truly it can truly be 15 minutes of fame and then people try to milk that to like they're like well i had two viral videos and now I have a million followers, like, now I'm going to drop out of college.

They got corn boy. They got corn boy. They got corn boy. And corn boy is on, he's on Chipotle ads. And he's like seven. Oh, that kid rocks. Yeah, I kind of like the corn boy. Oh, he's the best.

So he's getting taken advantage of, I think. I think that there's, there are some people that when they get famous so quickly, it helps if you have a discernible level of talent at something, something that you're better at than everybody else. But maybe, maybe I haven't been watching the right TikTokers, but a lot of them that I see. They find the algorithm. Maybe they're good looking kids. Maybe it's like the people that are on TikTok are watching. They're like, oh, this guy or this girl is cute. I'll watch her dance or watch him dance. But they don't really have like, they're not outstanding dancers, right? They just kind of

dance in a visually acceptable way. Yeah. And they're hot. Well, it's their hot. Okay. I mean, I'd have serious imposter syndrome if I was one of those guys. Because I'd just be like, man, I'm just like one of these people that got on the app the right time, like did the right moves. but like none of it's exceptional. Like it's not like you're like an athlete and you have some exceptional skill that you've trained for. It's kind of like. And it's so saturated.

Like there's a million of them. I mean like all those sorority girls were all whipping out like. Oh yeah. I've seen the sorority. I've been trying to get the, it's been hard to organize, but I've been trying to get the part of my take guys to do like a semblance of a sorority TikTok.

I've seen you've been doing great. Like all those people are, I mean, there's like so many sorority houses that are just whipping out. crazy dance numbers. Yeah, that's a new thing. So I do, it is crazy though. I think TikTok has, is able to catapult people to a level of fame more quickly than

anything else we've ever had. Like, there's this girl who, uh, was rushing a sorority at Alabama. Kylan. Uh-huh. And now she already has like, I think a million followers on TikTok and like, she's doing brand deals and stuff. She's gonna be mega rich She's doing the first pitch at the Reds game

Is she the one you guys? I hope you're having a great day Not just a good day I think she had like She was like Miss Teen Ohio or something Yeah she was Missed Ohio New of her But she's just like cat

I'm trying to look up How many followers she has right now She has like 500,000 So like anything else There will be some people They get famous on this That do have talent And will be very smart

About using their TikTok fame And will become megastars Not just like a flash in the pan There will be some people that do that that there'll be a lot of people that don't though a lot of people that are like well i'm going to be a content creator and then they graduate from college or they drop out of college and they're like uh what now like the charlie demilios of the world the josh richards like all of them have turned their flash in the pan into like a business venture yeah but like some of them

just keep it like wiggle dicking yeah and they're just like i'm going to wiggle dick as long as you let me and then some people wiggle dick till i die yeah the smart way to do it would to be just like i think the Demilios are doing this, but they've turned their whole family into the content where it's like Kardashian for TikTok. They're the new Kardashians. But then that's what like Addison Ray's mom is doing like trying to, well, because like her dad went crazy and because her mom was with young gravy. Well, yeah. And so that's honestly a smart business move I think by her mom. Yeah, but the whole thing is is like it's different because the Demilio's parents are with the kids. Like Addison's mom is doing this without Addison. She's like just trying to become also famous on

her own accord where it's like the demilios kind of are just like we want to protect our children and we're like helping them they're like kind of doing a Kardashian thing yeah they're trying to be like chris jenner where like addison ray's mom's just trying to get her own 15 minutes of fame so like it's not as much like supporting the daughter as it is like i also want to be famous which is a kind of odd move yeah well she's doing a good job yeah yeah and she gets to make out with young gravy is that like goals he's having a moment he's having a white boy of the month moment right now okay official white boy of the month award goes to Young Gravy

has he dethrone Jack Harlow Jack Harlow Jack Harlow was like in the beginning of the summer I would say When that's he dethroned The GLAM song was out I would say dethroned kind of

They're different I haven't seen Jack Harlow lately No He's gonna be I'm going to Columbus this weekend for the Ohio State Notre Dame game And he's apparently going to be The college football

Or college game day guest picker Jack Harlow's Yeah I'm going to try to find him. I think people might look back on week zero of 2022 as the day college game day died. Why is that? I didn't watch it, but I saw a clip of Lee Corso that he, they should have, I can't believe they're still letting him do the show.

He should have retired three or four years ago. Were they in Ireland? No, they just did it from here. I don't know if they were, I think they were just all remote. And then Desmond Howard had his college football playoff pretty. as Michigan, Baylor, Texas A&M and Pitt. Like, they're very clearly just going for like shock value. Yeah. And, and Corso is way too old to be on that show now, which is sad because he's so

awesome. He's good on the show when he has Kirk next to him. So when he was off by himself. Yeah, when Herbie's near him, because Herbie is like, they came up together on the show. And they have like a deep relationship and they've kind of grown together over the years. And Lee Corso obviously is not all there. I think that's fair to say. Like, he's not to say, he doesn't have the same mind that he used to have, but he's still good on TV occasionally, but he needs Herbie there to kind of like help him along sometimes when he gets lost his own thoughts. Um, so I, I think he kind of has, I think he's going to be doing the show for as long as

he wants to, right? No one's going to fire Lee Corso. Obviously. Yeah. I, I, I just remember, I remember a time when that show was must watch from nine to noon. And I just, I don't think it's been that for a while. And I certainly don't. Like, I don't watch it anymore. I feel like he's like, Lee Corso's like the Pope or a Supreme Court justice where he has a job for life. He never has to retire. Yeah. And now people are mad online at him because Jack Harlow is the guest picker next week. And he's from Louisville, I guess. And they were all these people from a high. State are going to be at the game and they're like, why didn't you pick one of these people? Yeah, that happens all the time.

But that's not like a real. I feel like ESPN, if they don't have anybody that they can get on the show, they just ask Kenny Chesney, right? Oh, yeah. He's a fan of every college football team in the South. It's ludicrous. We don't talk about that enough with Kenny Chesney. He is the most fair weather of fair weather fans.

He's supposed to be a Tennessee fan, but he's been a Virginia Tech fan at times, several others. I mean, he'll, wherever the wind's blowing. The funniest was when they had Katie Perry on. She was just housing a corn dog She was entertaining though She was like trying to get Bo Nix to go out with her and stuff Like that was Big T is this Bo Nix's year

This is where you're going to see Bo Nix Not bone, did I say Bo Nix? Bo Wallace Yeah Who was the old Ole Miss. I was going to say I don't think Bo Nix has been Yeah, no no no It hasn't been around that long

Bo Wallace Bo Wallace was a battering ram Beat Alabama twice Yeah I think Bo Nix could be pretty good Has he been named the starter yet? I don't know at Oregon i just i love falling into the bonex trap every year he's he's a good player yeah you just

don't yeah sometimes he he maybe needed a change of scenery yeah that's fair um i i think he could be now i don't think organ's going to beat george or anything like that but i think they'll be a good team and he could be a a good quarterback so big t give me your college football playoff your final four i mean Alabama's going to breeze through um i don't they don't play Georgia in the regular season. I don't foresee them having too much of a tough time. I think Georgia's going to take a step back. I don't think, I think they'll win the East, but I think they're going to do that with one, maybe two losses. Who's starting for Georgia nowadays? Is it still there? Is he still going to start? Yeah. Ohio State is going to be,

I think right there with Alabama, I think they'll be two. I think Clemson has a bounce back here. And I mean, the ACC is a joke, so they'll cakewalk through that. And then the fourth team, it's kind of up in the air. I don't hate Baylor as much as I said, Desmond Howard's thing was ridiculous. Like, I think they could get through the Big 12. I don't think there's a sneaky one though

I think USC could be pretty fucking good and there's not a ton of competition in the Pac-12 I don't hate USC putting a lot of stock in Caleb Williams I think Caleb Williams is a beast okay I was hoping that you'd say actually USC is a good

kind of dark horse team for that yeah I wanted you to make a headline for us though I think USC is a headline maker Is it? I think so. Okay. Are they in the top 10 preseason? You want a headline?

Yeah. Penn State. Okay. Dark Horse. We are. Northeast is taking football back. Okay. What about Pitt?

No love for Pitt? Oh, Pitt. I can't stand all this pit nonsense. They lost their Heisman finalist quarterback, their Bolitnikov winning receiver and their offensive coordinator, and got a quarterback from U.S. see who has regressed every year he's played and people are still acting like they're I can't wait for us to kick their ass I can't wait save that one I can't wait is that what was that

one of your things one of what you're teed off no oh no so you have two still I do have I do still up too so but yeah week two we're gonna I mean we're gonna handle where does Tennessee fit in this final prediction Tennessee's record this year I am on board with getting to eight wins by any means necessary but I see a path to nine. Okay. If I were to put my life on the line, I would say eight wins, but I see a path to nine.

And Hinden Hooker, Heisman Hopeful. I think we'll, like, if you go eight and four, they're not going to have you as a finalist, but I mean, he threw 31 touchdowns and three picks last year, and like, I think he's going to be better. So, okay, let's go through the schedule. Ball State, that's a win. Yeah.

Pittsburgh, it's in Pitt. Pitt is my I labeled it my must win or we might be fucked forever game of the year Okay So we're gonna win that game Two and O Akron win

Worst team in the FBS 3-0 Um This now this is This is where it all Florida Everything And the in the famous words of John Ward

Everything is riding on this football game We I think we do win it And if we do And you're not biased I mean, I am, but I think we're going to, I don't think Florida is going to be all that great. 4-0. LSU. I think we lose to LSU.

That's going to be a very tough environment. It's at Death Valley. Yeah, it's going to be a night game because they've never played a noon home game in the history of their program. So, you're saying SEC rigged. It is better in Baton Rouge when it's later on that day. Sure, if you're the home team. Okay, 4-1, Alabama losing by 30. No, no, we were very competitive with Alabama last year.

It was a seven-point game in the fourth quarter. Tennessee Martin, that's a win. That's a win. Five and two. Kentucky. This is the other very important game that I think a lot of Tennessee fans might be overlooking. So far there have been three games that you've said, like our season hinges on this one game. No, no, no.

Pitt is, the season only hinges on pit if we lose. If we lose, we're in big trouble, but I think we're going to win relatively no problem. Florida, it hinges one way or the other. Kentucky is a game that I do think we win but I think it's going to be a very tough game that some people are overlooking Okay, so that's six

At Georgia loss Probably going to lose that game Although I think it'll be pretty competitive Missouri at home that's a win Win so that's seven at South Carolina Another tricky game Another tricky game If Rattler is what they think he's going to

I think we lose one of Kentucky or South Carolina and I think that could be kind of a trap-ish game okay and then Vandy win we'll beat the living shit So you've kind of talked yourself into nine wins No I said I see a path to nine

If you can find a way to beat Kentucky South Carolina and Florida Yeah you can get yourself to nine I mean that'd be a pretty good bowl game for you guys Oh yeah But I'm get to eight wins That is my overarching goal for this season eight wins any means necessary and you're happy with eight wins yeah i mean we 18 months ago we were

firing our coach and at the end of january and admitting to dozens of level one in cAA violations and looked like we were going to be fucked forever so get me to eight wins in year two with a five-star quarterback coming in and i'm i'm okay with that seven wins panic button not panic i would like to win eight. I am meh at seven and five. I'm good at eight and four. I'm at nine and three. I am ecstatic. Okay. All right. Let's get to seven first and then we can get to eight. I don't see a way we don't get to seven. If we don't were in big, big trouble. Okay. Like going forward, but we should get to seven. Okay. So big T. What are you teed off about this week? So there was one and then one just happened a couple hours ago. So there's two.

Okay. I'll give you the one that happened today first. Fairly similar story to the Rachel Maddow won a couple weeks ago, but there was conflict here. I was walking to lunch. And have you seen that show with Billy Eichner, Billy on the street? Yeah. They're filming that right in front of me. And they have, you know, 20 people walking with the camera with all sorts of, like when he would get done filming with the person, they'd say, hey, can you sign this, this, that and the other? And there's, you know, all sorts of producers and PAs and all these people. And so I'm walking behind him. I can't get around them. because they have the whole sidewalk block. So I'm kind of filming it to just, like, send to my girlfriend. Like, here's a mildly interesting thing that happened to me today.

And one of their, I guess he was a producer on what he was, gets up in my face and he goes, stop filming. And I said, why? He said, because I told you to stop filming. Oh, that's a great conversation. I said, you're on a public sidewalk. And he's just staring at it. He didn't respond.

I said, what reasonable expectation of privacy did you have on 24th Street in Manhattan? Is this on film? No, I had stopped. And at this point, I had filmed what I wanted to fit. It was literally the back of his head. I was just showing, I was going to send it to my girlfriend. And I didn't even care anymore, but now I was dug in. I was off.

You're out in the middle of Manhattan in public. And he's just staring at me. I said, what reasonable expectation of privacy did you have out here? And he just stares at me, doesn't answer the question. And so then I just kind of kept walking. And I wanted to turn around and like film again. Yeah. But I was, my goal was to get around them.

Yeah, I think at that point, you'd won the confrontation if you turn around and start filming again. I thought about it. Then you're being like, you could say like, okay, Big T is going overboard here. He's spiking the football on him. I think you won, that was a clean win. That was a clean K.O. for Big T. Yeah, I thought so as well. That's like, because that's such a obnoxious move by them to like assume like that they want you not to film so nothing gets leaked.

but it's like he totally I could not possibly care less about like he was I going to run to Twitter and be like hey guys I saw Billy on the street filming if you want to see this five second clip of what he did like dude get the fuck quit taking yourself so seriously I love Billy on the street I think

I think Big T is the best person in terms of public confrontations because you keep your wits about you you don't get too emotional you just straight up telling the facts I almost got emotional though because I was just he was so ridiculous like so anyway um the second one was this isn't something I'm mad about but it's uh I guess you could call it a conspiracy theory that I have I was in St. Louis

Missouri this weekend um why uh my dad's a Cardinals fan so we went to the Braves Cardinals series how's your dad a Cardinals fan he's from St. Louis but you grew up and you were like I am I will not root for this team. I grew up in Atlanta. Yeah. Did you try to make you a cards fan growing up? No, I don't think so. Maybe when I was like a little, little kid, um, because he and my grandpa, but I mean, yeah, I grew up in Atlanta going to Braves games. So I got, but so we're there. Um, and over the course of two games at Bush Stadium and walking around downtown, I think St. Louis is one of two things. It's either confirmation of the simulation theory. Or, Or it's some sort of government cover up for something similar to the Denver airport.

So here's why I think it could be proof of the simulation. I like this. Everyone in St. Louis is at least 40 years old. There are no young people there at all. Every single person is old. Which to me indicates, you know, this guy was creating the simulation. And there's one city left, like out in the middle of the country's half. I just put all old people, whatever.

Every business there is like an obscure, very generically named thing that only exists in Missouri. There are very few national brands there. Everything is like central bank or, you know, things of that nature. And it all just seems very weird, very Truman Show-ish.

The third was also along the business lines, there are like 25 tiny colleges that all somehow have enough money to all be title sponsors of the Cardinals. Like everything in Bush Stadium is sponsored by some university with an enrollment of 1,500 people. So I don't know what exactly is going on, but St. Louis is fake. Okay. I think it's like some sort of simulation. What about the gates? I don't know what you think about the gates. The gates. The gates of the west. The arch. Yeah. Yeah, that's another. I mean, I mean, it's just like a monument. Spaceship.

I guess. Handle. Or it's like that thing, contact. Remember when they had to send the spaceship to outer space? That's kind of the vibes that I get from the arch. I actually had a simulation moment, like glitch in the matrix type moment. I walked. I was walking to an apartment.

And then halfway, I was walking from my truck, then halfway there. I realized I forgot something. in the truck dog food and then i went back and on my way there originally i saw this guy getting on a city bike playing lead zeppelin and then taking the bike and pulling out blue shirt tall guy brown hair so then i see him pull out and i remember him distinctly because he was playing a whole lot of love lead zeppelin then i come back and i see him once again getting on a city bike and leaving the exact same place playing lead zeppelin i'm like oh that's weird then i'm coming back from getting the dog food and he's once again pulling out of the same city bike spot

playing lead zeppelin same guy three times so this is what i've so then like in my mind i could have gone you know oh my god like this is all simulation i've seen this three times like three different like probably just fucking with you three NPCs just doing the same thing over and over but what I realized like after the fact is the guy was probably you can kind of see he was a little weird he was probably doing loops

around the block to see which city bike peddled and handled the best and then got hopped on new ones so like there's always explanations when you think you're about to lose it so like big tea you're seeing population collapse with all the old

people that's why i'm just telling you there wasn't uh a high school kid in sight i'm in on this nobody goes to high school there i'm in on this there it's all old st louis is fake yeah agreed i actually convinced someone that finland was fake this weekend well it is fake yeah it's a big russian japanese fishing rights it's a micro state with just helsinki in sweden but the mass the landmass that's on the maps is just to disguise oil and fishing grounds right and they also have a great prime minister yeah that's just to make us think that it's like a bigger place that actually they're getting their name oh no she got ruined did you see Hillary ruined it yeah I saw that what happened Hillary posted a picture of her like dancing

in a club being like oh what's wrong with this Hillary got in on it mm-hmm so Hillary's ruined she tarps off Hillary's like see us us hot party girls know how to have fun did you see the she and Chelsea Clinton are doing on Apple TV? I did not know. I missed that. Oh, it's going to be the greatest show ever. They go out on the road and they talk to gutsy women. Can't wait. Yeah. No, it's going to be. It's going to top the charts. I think they should just make the Clinton family like the Kardashian family and just like, we see all the drama play out on TV. I think people would be more accepting. Everything is the Kardashians. Yeah, but like. Well, they are the Kardashians except instead of their friend being

O.J. Simpson, it was Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell. But yeah, see, include those parts. in the TV show, like, ooh, putting a hit out on somebody. Like, that'd be a good TV show. That'd be a great TV show. You should write that. I know. House of Cards. Yeah, write it about the Clintons.

I like those teed offs, though. I'm on board. I don't, yeah. St. Louis, I've never been there. Probably never going to go there. Odd vibe. It's fake. And I'd been many times before, but it just hit me on this trip that something's off.

Have you ever had St. Louis style pizza? Yeah. It's, so I loved it as a kid because. I could only get it like once a year when we went to our grandparents' house. And so it was like, cool, like, oh, emo's like it's great. And then the last couple times, I didn't even get it this time. But when I had it as an adult, I was like, this is like actually really bad. It's like cracker crust, right?

It's like a super thin crust. And the cheese is different. It's provolone cheese instead of mozzarella. And like a sweet ketchup, like really sweet ketchup tomato sauce. It's not good. Yeah, not a fan. If anybody out there's from St. Louis and you want to prove that you're actually real, let big T know.

I believe the people are real. But no young people. You're saying if you're a young person in St. Louis, talk to us about how it is. Right. I texted Riggs,

but he didn't answer yet. Is he from there? Must be a lot of milf guys in St. Louis. They're all 40. Or there's a lot of milts. No, that's actually crazy about confirmation bias

because like if you don't know like the only people as confirmation bias that the earth is truly round as anyone who's gone to space or um our friend that we had on the show who walked across antarctica yeah so crazy crazy that's wild stuff i uh i had a glitch in the matrix moment myself a couple weeks ago i don't think i brought it up on this show but i was down down the shore in asbury park and i was walking to dinner and in front of me on the sidewalk this guy and this girl step off the street on the sidewalk to walk in the same direction, so I'm behind them. They're walking in front of me about, I don't know, 10 feet, pretty

close. And the girl, I was not intentionally looking, but I couldn't help because the girl had on a skirt that didn't cover her ass at all. Like, I don't think it's a bonk. It was shocking. Like both ass cheeks hanging completely out, no underwear. What? Yes, it was wild. So, bear ass. I have no idea what's going on. I'm like, what's what's happening here then we get to the next street after about maybe only 10 seconds of me being behind this couple and there's this lady getting out of this car with her friend and the lady steps out of her car and she's not wearing any pants at all she has underwear on but she's not wearing any pants at all and then she just puts on pants in the middle of the street and I was

like what's going why are there so many asses out right now are you sure that wasn't she was wearing like a bathing suit bottom and then she was a lot of bathing suit bottom and then she was a lot of No, no, no, she was putting on like a dress, like a dress over top of her. It could have been a cover-up. Or you could tell it was not. It was within 10 seconds, though, where I saw just two asses, two asses. Two asses out of nature. I'm not going to bong you for that.

That's, that's. Then the very next weekend I was at the beach and there was this lady that stood up and she just straight up took her bathing suit off, her bathing suit bottom off and put a different one on. In front of you? She was fully nude. No, but it was a crowded beach. It wasn't in front of me. She was like two or three blankets over.

So in front of you basically. Kind of, yeah. Well, in front of a lot of people. Close enough. A lot of people were right by her. And she just had no shame taking her bathing suit bottom on and putting a different one on. So you saw a whole thing. Chicks aren't wearing pants.

Yeah. So let's talk about female privilege. Chicks are not wearing pants. I don't know what's going on. Imagine if you did that. Jail. Jail. honestly like I mean you get charged with public nudity I did think about that like if I did something

and there's a difference between guys doing it girls doing it I was joking because we're more visible in certain certain areas but I would be in jail I would be in prison and this lady everybody was just like oh just another day at the beach damn so girls keep your pants on out there okay I don't know what's happening I don't know what's happening we're going to figure out what's what the hell is going on. Billy, you want to get into some animal facts? Talk about the most deadly, painful animals. Yeah, so we're about to go into an interview with Coyote Peterson. You know, one of probably, he's probably this generation, Steve Irwin, and you may be like, that's a disgrace to Steve Irwin's name. But the way he enthralls younger listeners,

watchers, and the kids of today, I think is very reminiscent of how. the crocodile hunter you know jeff corwin who's a name that probably doesn't get as much love as steve irwin but he was still a goat naturalist goat on the tv like i'd be like you know um j kobe i'd say steve irwin jeff corwin um both really you know great like the jeff corn experience was an amazing show um i think it's shocking that coyote is from ohio and he became like a wildlife expert. Well, there's, I mean, the, instead of a serial killer. Yeah. I mean, the northeast in Ohio's in that same range that I understand a lot of the animals he grew up with because they're the same ones that I grew up with. Like common snapping turtles are, I've been

bit by a common snapping turtle. They are dinosaurs. Like, he explained it perfectly. Like, they are some of the coolest animals ever. Um, but growing up with the frogs and everything, like he, it's the same faunit, basically. A little bit different, but, um, But getting into our theme of the day, the most dangerous, the most painful animals. Let's actually go around the room real quick. What's the most painful thing you guys have been bitten or stung by? Start with Avery. I don't know because I've never, I guess a bee because I don't think there's ever really anything like,

I think like worse than a bee sting is like if you're in the ocean, you get like pinched by a crab, like an unexpected like hard pinched. and that's happened before but nothing crazy like that bees are not fun especially if you're a kid you have the shock of being stung by a bee yeah that's that the first time i got stung by a honeybee that i was more concerned with like it didn't hurt that much but i panicked because oh shit i just got stung by a bee i was like seven years old at the time so it was uh i had a little bit of panic the stinger was still like stuck in my cheek yeah where'd you get stung i've got stuck in the arm like trying to swat it being like a dumb kid

just trying to like swat it away and then just lands on your arm and just zaps you yeah the great thing though when you do get stung by honey bee you know that you killed the bee because their stinger comes out and all their guts come out

but hornets are the worst you ever been stung by one oh yeah I got so my cousin Dale actually stumbled upon a hornet's nest and Dale came running down the hill and he was getting sworn to by them and he was like I've been stung by a bee

and then he came up to me and then I realized they were all swarming him so then I got hit with some collateral but he was getting it the worst and then we were like really younger than I ran up the stairs and was like mom dad Dale's getting stung and then we like came out put a towel over him it was a whole big ordeal is that what you're supposed to do just throw a towel over I don't know keep him in the dark like they have a concussion yeah well we allegedly when you're getting sworn by bees you don't really know what to do I actually probably should look that up but we're just like just whipping them with the town yeah i imagine you got stung by several things as a kid i did uh weird centipede once not centipede millipede no centipede yeah like you know those ones that run across the floor yeah

been bit by those before uh i've been bit by snapping turtle uh i've been bit by garter snake corn snake um any other snakes no garter snake and a corn snake um i was did you deserve those um Was I? Yeah, garter snake I deserved. Corn snake was, I was feeding it. African bullfrog been bit by. Only frog with teeth. That one actually took a chunk out of my finger. Snapping Turtle was a was a sub-juvenile, probably around yay big, not like a really big one. You're making the size of about a dinner plate right now. Yeah. Got me right on my fleshy part of my forearm. um what else i'm bit by fish

kind of indifferent a couple snakes though most people i think go through life without ever getting bit by one well yeah well i'll go pick up a garter snake if i if i know a snake isn't venomous i'm like fuck yeah i'm gonna fuck with this snake yeah yeah but uh lizards a bunch of annals when you're like down south catching annals of course um who amongst us hasn't gone anal catching if you ever go to florida as a kid you big anal guy tons of little green lizards running around everywhere you're going to try to catch all of them huge anal guy billy annals are you more of a milf guy or an anal guy oh no i just fucking realized yeah uh a green

anal i've been i've been stung by hornets before that sucks one time i got stung by a hornet on my knee and on the back of my head at the same time and my mom didn't know about bees at the time her hornets so she was concerned that I still had a stinger in my knee and so she made me lay down and she started digging into my knee with like a she took a like sewing needle and then she put a flame on it to sterilize it she was trying she was trying to dig the stinger out oh remember when you got remember when you got really bad um splinters yep and they did that tactic and they're like we got to soak your foot soak your foot salt water gets all like and then they get the hot needle out and they're cutting through you.

It's like Taladega nights and he's like, got to cut around the meat. Yeah. She's just like cutting your leg on. Yeah, no, I have a scar on the inside of my knee right here from my mom tried to get a stinger out that doesn't exist because hornets don't leave their stingers in you. But she didn't know that. So she was like, I'm going to find the stinger must be really far in there. So it was like 30 minutes of her performing minor surgery on my knee.

That was bad. I got killed, but I got stung by a cicada. I got killed. Did I say? Yeah. I got stung by a cicada killer. hornet um that lived in the it was then i try to light its nest on fire with gasoline um seems like you deserve that yeah what else have i been i've been bitten by a rat and a mouse

like a new york rat no a adult rat i was helping feeding someone's python um please make a super cut of just yeah i got animals that billy says that he's been bitten or stung by bearded dragon um what else dogs yes yes i haven't bit by a dog has white ever bitten you no good dog it was a it was another dog i got bit by a dog named moose one time when i was in texas i was selling these dogs at the time and moose was a great dog when he was around people but he did not get along with any other dog he hated other dogs and other dogs hated him they'd see moose coming and they'd start a fight with them, and then Moose would respond in kind. And then one time this German Shepherd got out of its pen and started fighting with Moose,

and I stepped in between them, which you are not supposed to do. And then Moose trying to bite the German Shepherd bit through my genes entirely. And I started bleeding everywhere. I still love Moose. And then you were supposed to file a report if you got bit by any dogs, but I knew what that meant. You didn't snitch. I knew what it meant that if you filed a report, they were going to euthanize the dog because we had so many dogs

we were trying to get adopted and so I just I kept that one in between Moose and myself I think it's a three strike policy in New York is it that's a lot of strikes for dog bites I think it's on other dogs oh okay

but on humans is probably just like one bad bite they have to put it down well I think it depends if it's like a random guard situation yeah um yeah saved Moose's life the dog that bit me was in a dog fight as well

so no cat Oh, hmm. No, no cats. Hedgehog. Hedgehog bit me. That was a little bit of different story. I keep, I get bit a lot while trying to feed animals. Um, because tongs are for pussies. Uh, you thought about adjusting your feeding strategy. Yeah. It's like, it's usually in the beginning process because I want to, I want to teach all the animals to eat out of my hand. Uh, like the hedgehog but like sometimes it's they're all little nips they're like investigative bites um trying to think of anything that's more like coyote peterson that's like dangerous the worst bites are mosquito bites they're so inconvenient yeah they're annoying they're so annoying horse horse flies those are bad yeah those suck you ever do swim team and for some reason they're like attracted to the chlorine yeah uh-huh like growing up and they just get you up and they're gross one time I had a false start

and I used to swim during the summers I quit to play basketball but I probably should have kept going with swimming it might have been my best sport but I got bit during a meat on my ass by a horse fly and made me false start because you're on the block

and they're like swimmers you can't ignore it yeah it's so painful and I'm on the block and I just get stung in my ass and I freaking leap like they said I did the farthest dive I've ever done after you're bit in the ass by a horsefly it was comical but are you allowed to do that to a swimmer like if you if you want

them to get off to a great start like have the horse fly in a pair of tongs and just hold it up to your ass right when the gun goes off yeah i mean horse slice things suck what else big tea you ever been bit by anything scabies i don't think anything ever worse than a bee because i intentionally do not put myself in situations where things can uh bite or sting may yeah i mean you can see the discrepancy here and Billy has a million bites from a million different animals. Most people I think go through life getting stung by bees

occasionally. I'll tell you the worst thing that that's probably happened to me, at least in the years I've lived here, it's the homeless guy that reached out and whacked me with a crutch. Yeah, that counts as a bite. I've been bitten by a human. That wasn't, that wasn't, didn't feel good. I did get bit in elementary school in a fight.

Did you win? Well, once he bit me, it was kind of more of like a, I don't, This isn't, like, now it's getting weird. Yeah, yeah. If you're a biter, a line has been crossed. If you're, like, wrestling with a kid because, like, he took something from you and then he just starts biting you, then you're like, what the fuck? Yeah. Like, it's not worth it.

Yeah. I always love it when there's a bite that happens in sports and then the person freaks out. And, like, because you realize, especially in soccer with Suarez, when he used to bite people, it would, like, a soccer player's first inclination when something remotely painful happens. them is to fall on the ground and roll around but when you get bitten by somebody you just freak out you're like what the fuck are you doing this isn't part of the game you could read i mean humans just don't really bite like have you guys seen the north man no it was this crazy viking movie but this dude goes berserker he raids a village and he's going nuts and then like the end part of the fight scene is he just bites out a guy's windpipe that's pretty and just rips it out that's pretty

metal and then he howls we don't really bite anymore i was like holy fuck what about you mad dog um when i was really little you got pooped on i did get pooped on by a horse which is tough oh i've been bit by a horse it was a nip i have been bit by a horse that was actually recently oh yeah how long it's been since your last bite um july 4th yeah probably july 6th july 4th and 6th no i was like that was the week it was so it was probably on july 6th what was it was a little little nip of a horse i was feeding another horse oat cakes and then another horse got pissed that i wasn't feeding him oat cakes and he was like a little he looked kind of like uh he was a little nasty and he got me are there any animals that you would like to get bit by that you haven't got bit by yet a shark

we've been trying to get bit by a shark all summer yeah that's true i was talking well i was thinking about it i was so there's so so so so i read about this. There's been a bait ban in the Chesapeake Bay. I don't know if you know about this, but they've stopped fishing for a certain type of fish in the Chesapeake Bay. They've like limited fishing on it and it's a bait fish. And because of that, there's been a population boom up the East Coast, which has caused a large amount in those baitfish have been going closer to shore in New Jersey, Long Island, Hanson area. So the sharks have been heading up there. But there's small sharks. And there's been like a spike in bites, but they're all non-fatal small

I know Coyote Peterson said that no shark bites Non-fatal no no shark bites like not a serious bite right but I was thinking about like how great would it be for content to get bit by a shark Like you are like like that's like on the fleshy part just like on like dude that's like so eyes that's so done but it's a two and a like two and a half foot shark The shark's mouth is probably like Yeah big do you realize that your skin doesn't like regenerate like a lizard tail that's the point then you have the scar

Billy you're on you're salaried right so you're getting you're getting paid the same whether you do or do not get bitten by a shark well I like to do short contracts because they like it's totally yeah re-up every year

it's like it's like a gamble it's like it's all or nothing you're betting on himself I just don't think I don't care if it's two and a half foot shark or a 20 and a half foot shark I do not think A little shark

Billy, I don't think it's worth it to get bit by a shark Back me up here You were you're BFT You were sitting in the waves with me It would be pretty awesome to get bit by a small shark Would you want to get bit by a shark? Would you want to get bit by a shark?

Like imagine how much that tweet Would get liked Like yeah But again you have Big T's right You don't get money from that No But then you also have this story It would be it would be sick to get bit by a tiny shark

Like a reef shark And just have it leave its teeth impressions That's, I'm thinking, in my head, Billy gets bit by a shark and let's just call it the meaty part of his thigh. There's like a six to 12 inch gap in where your thigh used to be. No, and also you do have, you've got some very significant veins and arteries. No, but the flesh, you can bleed out. Well, this is why you do squats. This is why you do squats to defend those arteries.

So you can get bit by a shark. I would, I would let, I would allow that to happen if I were in charge of this. If there were a guarantee, it would more just be like a scar. rather than a chunk of flesh exiting you forever. Not every shark bite takes a chunk. An exploratory bite. And that's what most of these bites have been. It's more of like a nibble to see what you're up to.

Can I eat this? That's what most of the shark bites are. Okay. And the reason why great whites have the most fatalities with their exploratory bites. It's because it's like they're a much larger shark. They're in all or nothing. Yeah. It's like why pit bulls first like pit bulls and chihuahuas bite people at the

the same rate. Chihuahua's bite more for sure. Yeah, it's just that the chihuahua is not leaving any damage. So you want to get bit by the chihuahua of sharks, basically? Yes. Yeah, I would too. I would too. It would be cool.

It would be a cool scar to have. I still think that hurts so much. It would definitely hurt for a little bit. But I think it would be worth it if it was a small shark. I mean, how many times have you like, you know when you wake up, like so many people just have bruises after a weekend that are just random? That is just not the same. yeah but like shark bite also how are you luring a shark into biting i'm really like i rather

get a shark bite like that than like fall through a glass coffee table what yeah sure yeah i mean falling through a glass coffee table would be pretty bad yeah um i've been sung by jellyfish did you have to pee on it uh we talked about that that's like one of my biggest fears yeah it's jellyfish jellyfish are yeah yeah you're you can pee on it vinegar helps though vinegar's better and i think hot water is even better than that but you don't oh that would hurt so bad i i think i got half-ass stung like like you know when you're in the surf and then just like something wipes against you yeah there's um the Portuguese man-of-war have you guys heard of that is that the ones you're talking about this weekend yeah so

they're not actually jellyfish they're they're fucking crazy jellyfish are aliens they're they yeah they freak me out but a Portuguese man-of-war it's tentacles can get up to like 100 feet long. It's crazy. So it floats on the surface. So you have the little top of the man of war that pokes out of the water. And then the tentacles can go down up to 100 feet. And if you get like fully wrapped around by a giant one, you can die. It's very rare that they'll kill somebody. But they're not actually jellyfish because they're two, maybe even more than two, but definitely two separate organisms that work together as one. So, The sail part that sticks out of the water that catches the wind and catches the tides,

that part is completely different from the part that hangs down that has the tentacles. They just kind of form a union together and the tentacles go hunting to feed the top part, the sail. And the sail acts as like the motor that drags the tentacles around. So it's like a mutually beneficial relationship that they have. That's fucking crazy. But they can, they have killed people before. and there are certain types of fish that live inside of them. So there are some fish that are like immune to the stings.

Huh. And they live inside feasting on some of the stuff that the Portuguese Manawar catches. But they're awesome looking. Go look up some videos of Portuguese Manor Wars. I typed it in on YouTube in the first video that came up, Brave Wilderness stung by a manna war jellyfish. Coyote got stung by one? No, the guy, I think it's the guy Mark who's also on his channel.

Wait, I thought you said you can't get stung by it though. But I think he used a smaller one. one. So there's like bigger ones that if they wrap around you, they kill you. But like the smaller ones that kind of get like washed up on the beach. Yeah. You can get stung by them. They're really cool. I love the color of them. Seeing them on the beach, these purple, they look like there's like a certain aesthetic in Halo 3 that looks a lot like the small man of war. And I always, I always love that. So in Hollywood, Florida, on February 11th, 2018, 204 people got. stung by Portuguese man o' wars. In one day? Yeah, in one town. Damn. Oh, Jesus. So jellyfish populations have been going through the roof because of climate change. Why, do they like warm water? Yeah, the warm water, more stagnant water, like something, you know, something about the climate has been like creating tons of jellyfish, like an over amount. Because a lot of the fish that eat jellyfish aren't surviving. So there's like a biome collide.

type thing, but we might be end up eating jellyfish. I've eaten jellyfish before. On purpose? Yeah. How? It's served chilled and they slice it and it's kind of like sushi. So you have it with like a soy sauce or ginger or wasabi. Moon jelly?

I don't know if it was a moon jelly. But I had it one time and it was not, I didn't love it. I wouldn't have it again. But I was just getting revenge from when I got stung by jellyfish earlier. I think the pea thing is like an urban legend I think pee helps I think there's definitely a neutralization I think pee helps

It's better than not peeing on it But if you have vinegar You should put vinegar on there instead Well also you said hot water And I don't I mean I'm gonna say it's kind of gross Is it pee usually like kind of hot?

Yeah yeah so I think that helps too And I think that with the pee Maybe more than what's in the ingredients In your own pee is the fact that like When you get stung by jellyfish sometimes it leaves traces of its tentacles on your body. Okay. And so when you pee on it, you might wash some of that away.

Okay. So I think that might help. But if you get stung by a jellyfish and you have vinegar, use that instead. Or you can also pee on it because it's kind of fun. Ugh. All right. So Billy, I got you off track. Talk to me about some painful animals.

So there was a scientist called Schmidt. And Schmidt developed the Schmidt insect sting. pain index, which is like a Richter scale of how painful a bite is. So basically this scientist, before Coyote Peterson was, you know, this was years ago, developed this scale of various different insects and he let them all sting him. And some of these sounds. Was this on video? Not on video.

So we don't even know if it happened. Okay. So the top of his list is the bullet ant. and the bullet ant So he said it was the worst It's an ant that lives in South American rainforest And delivers an intense venomous sting The immediate pain lasts anywhere from 12 to 24 hours in full force

Luckily you won't find this type of ant Hiding in your backyard Yeah so he just let a bunch of these animals sting him I know we talk about bee stings But in relation the honey bee is on So the scale goes one through four And the bee like your regular bee stings one and it gets successively worse um the asiatic honeybee is a three and the

asian giant horn it is also a three so a lot of these things are on a scale of animals we will never encounter but it's interesting that someone actually went out there and figured out which hurts the most which hurts the least so justin schmidt born in 1947 figured it all out, and he did this all at the Carl Hayden Bee Research Center in Arizona. It's an interesting list. A lot of these animals, like, hopefully you'll never encounter. They live in the corners of the world with some of the most dangerous predators that they need the giant stings to keep away. But some of them, such as the red harvester ant, are some of the closer ones that are some of the red ants that come out there in the southwest United States.

some pretty dangerous stuff but when I was researching painful I know we're talking about animals but we might go over to flora for a second one of those painful things in the world to encounter is the gimpy gimpy now the gimpy Gimpy Gimpy

fascinated me because you know in World War II lore and I think there's a part of it in the Pacific on HBO there was a type of plant that you know you're in a foreign land you're in the middle of the jungle go to the bathroom go number two and you need some toilet paper well let's just use that leaf

and you end up using a leaf that is the most painful stinging plant on the planet and you put it in your nether regions and unfortunately for one officer according to urban legend ended up killing himself because of how painful the plant was after wiping his ass with it i mean this thing terrifies me So the Gimpy Gimpy God's name for the plant, Gimpy Stinger, in the giant stinging tree. This plant has a dubious honor of arguably being the most painful plant in the world. One ex-serviceman Cyro Bromley fell into one of the plants during World War II training exercises and ended up strapped to a hospital bed as mad as a cut snake. Bromley also told the story of an officer who unknowingly used to leave his toilet paper who ended up shooting himself.

Botanist Ernie Ryder was whacked in the face, arms and chest, in 1963, and it wasn't until 1965 that he was finally free of the pain. That's nuts. Jesus. Like two years of pain. And that's just like when we talk about everything in Australia is trying to kill you. Even the plants. Yeah.

Everything in Australia is trying to kill you. So it has these micro-stinging hairs that embed into your skin, and they're so tiny that you can't even extract. so even if you tried you'd have to get like super microscopic tweezers to pull these things out of your skin and when they embed in your skin there's so many of them

the process is you know I would at that point I would just cut the skin off that's like I'm trying to think of like what would you do yeah like take a like a grater and just grate it off but don't you think it would it would still like spread maybe like you're spreading it to other parts

by doing that I know, but the poison, the poison's in you, but the stingers keep injecting the poison over time. So I'm just thinking, get the stingers off. Just like take a, you know, like a peeler that you use on like a carrot. Just get your skin off. That's what I would do. That's brutal. Yeah, I mean, using that as toilet paper, that, that's an all-time mistake.

Yeah. I don't think you can do much worse than that. I remember watching the, it wasn't jackass. It was Wild Boys. It was Steveau and Chris Pontius. I think they did the bullet ant glove where they have bullet ants inside of a glove. It's a ritual that they do in Brazil

where like a boy becomes a man after doing this ritual. And he has to put his hand in a glove filled with bullet ants that just bite or sting them. And then it's just throbbing pain for about 24 hours. And that's when you become a man. So you just put your hands in these giant mittens

and then you just have to sit there and take it and try not to move. Can they choose to not become men? Can they just... I'm good. I'll just be a boy forever. That's what I would do. That's the beauty of Western society. Good point, Billy.

I think it would be, yeah, you're like Peter Pan. I don't want to grow up. Yeah. I mean, some of these, I'm just going to name some of these creatures because they just sound like they hurt. The tarantula hawk, the paper wasp, the yellow jacket wasps, the bald-faced hornet. I mean, some of these sounds so terrifying.

but Coyote Peterson if you've seen some of his videos I think but he claims that you know we're going to get to this part but he claims that Schmidt has probably had more venoms in him but I think by far Coyote Peterson has the most venom's poisons ever been injected You might be the most bitten person though You might have gotten bitten by more things than he has Oh no he's definitely gotten bitten with me

Well he's got stung by a lot right yeah There's also this jellyfish in Australia called the iroconji it's a tiny tiny little jellyfish it's like the size of your thumbnail and if that stings you you can die from it you can also it will usually last for a couple days of just having excruciating pain all over your body so there are certain beaches that you're not allowed to swim in in australia they try to put up these nets to keep the jellyfish out but they're so small that they can get through the nets so um there are certain beaches though where just people don't go

because these tiny little bastards will sting the hell out of you. You know what's sneaky, very painful? Platapus. So the platypus have a little stinger that's, so platypuses are poisonous.

They have a spur in their back legs that can deliver a sting that can cause excruciating pain and the conventional pain killers don't work on it either. So they only sting when provoked and they primarily use their venomous spurs is a defense against rival male

so it's usually territorial wars between platypuses but they're staying like it's a very unique type of poison one because like what the fuck is a platypus it's an act I think it's an echnoderm it's like something that isn't even a mammal

isn't even a marsupial we don't even know if it's like a bird but it's just a weird assed animal like it looks like a like a beaver duck it's the best way to explain but like mammals don't usually have poisons at all birds certainly don't yeah the uh the platypus that might be my favorite animal it's just such a fucked up thing it's just a mix up of everything it's just like you know when god created quote unquote when god created the fucking platypus like what the

fuck was it doing he was drunk yeah he just sewed a bunch of different uses together did they used to think that platypuses didn't exist that it was like a yeah a taxidermy prank yeah where they would sew like actual a duck bill onto like a beaver yeah and then duck feet onto its bottom and then beaver tail on the back what the fuck is this captain cook yeah um going back to the euracondria real quick i didn't know this i just pulled this up about those tiny little jellyfish they've got awful awful symptoms and the pain can last a lot longer than i initially say can last for uh for weeks and you usually have to go to the hospital when you get it so you get not only burning on the skin face but you want to puke you get restless you sweat you puke your uh your heart rate increases

your blood pressure goes through the roof and then maybe the worst of all it fucks with your brain so you get a psychological effect from it where you get this overwhelming sense of impending doom which also might just be a byproduct of the pain a little bit but you get the feeling you you truly believe that you're going to die you feel like you're dying when you're on it Jesus. Yeah, little bastards those guys are. Black Widow is a classic, super painful bite. I don't think we have to explain much about that.

The thing is, is that you don't know when it bites you. Yeah. And then an hour later, it blows up. I got bit by a spider over the 4th of July as well, and I still have the fang marks in my hand. I was scared. It might have been a... Where were you? I was in Montana, and it blew up like a jite, like it blew up like a softball.

Were you handling? the spider? No, I wasn't. I had no idea where it came from. So did you see the spider? Nope. Which is later you got it. I still have the pinpricks. Dude, you get bit by so many things. You need to start making some lifestyle adjustments, I think, Billy. Nah. So what's the most painful thing that you've gotten bit or stung by? The worst was scabies. Not because of the pain, but because they itched and wouldn't go away. And it was like months of trying to get rid of them that just like culminated in like larger suffering over a longer time.

Yeah. Do you think an alligator bite hurts? Yeah. I think probably. Oh, I have the most painful animal. So I've been doing some research. I'll whip it out at the end because this, this is terrible. Okay.

Like probably the most pain you can go through. Okay. So what else do we have on the list here? Stingrays. Yeah. Killed steer of our one. Yeah. You should do the stingray shuffle.

awful when you're in the water. What's that mean? It means that because Stingray is only sting you if you step on them. And so if you don't, the best way to disturb a Stingray is if you're like moving your feet side to side because then you kind of kick up underneath them and they'll swim away instead of stepping directly on it. But if you step on them, they just send their giant ass barbs straight up into your leg. See, I thought when Steve Irwin died though, he was swimming and it came up or am I misled? He was swimming behind it from what I read he was swimming behind it and no one really knew

like the way that he was swimming behind it and the stingray was moving forward and if you think about it do you think stingrays can move backwards like you know how frogs can only jump forwards or like sharks can't swim backwards yeah like you can never

really imagine a stingray sort of swimming backwards yeah so the stingray hit the brakes stever yeah break checked and he came up on it Have you seen the video, Billy? I imagine you've probably looked up the video. So I didn't actually, because it was 2006 when it happened.

Yeah. So I was pretty young. I didn't have access to the internet and I always heard there's a video. I haven't actually seen the video. Yeah, I don't know if it exists out there. I don't think it does. I just assumed that you had been at some point that you had looked for it. No, because I think it was deleted.

It was on the cutting room floor because they only had the production video. Yeah. It got into his heart, right? Yeah. Damn. It's tough. he was so cool yeah he was like

it's one of those things where I truly believe that good people go early because that they've done their time like they they've made their impact yeah they've they've done their purpose on earth that's cool that his kids are living his legacy yeah and that's how I sort of

rationalize it yeah but damn stingrays are a good one stingrays scare me did you ever do the thing growing up when you would go to the thing at the zoo where you could pet the sting race? Yep. Did that all the time, felt like a badass?

Yeah, I've done that. Damn. What else you got, Billy? Who knew that the most painful animal was a human leaving? Oh, wow. Great point, Billy. The Arizona barked scorpion. The Arizona bark scorpion is one of the most venomous scorpions in North America.

So it's crazy. They're also the most commonly encountered scorpion in Arizona. So when they say there's a reason. you like wear your boots in the house okay in the southwest yeah so i always heard growing up that scorpion stings can kill you but they don't really right it depends uh the venom causes acute pain and can lead to symptoms that include frothing the mouth breathing difficulties and muscle convulsions uh limbs may also become immobilized though the venom is rarely fatal its effects can last for as long as 72

excruciating hours arizona bark scorpions tend to hide dark crevices during the day and hunted night yeah so i think it depends on your um uh immune response okay yeah in texas there were there were just scorpions everywhere people everyone had a story if you grew up in texas of finding a scorpion in your house or finding them in your shoes or finding them in your shirt there's snake in my boots yep um i'm reading right now that they're conflicting reports on whether or not a video exists of steve irwin i think the video was definitely taken His wife said that it was destroyed, but the person that was filming it says the footage exists, but it will never be released. Yeah.

Because I can imagine that's a very closed. Yeah. Like, no one's going to want to keep that. Yeah. Like, he definitely wasn't leaked onto the internet because his crew is very tight-knit. For sure. I mean, the tape, I feel like, is just somewhere. probably with his wife.

Yep. Hmm. What else we got, Billy? I mean, so honestly, I feel like the worst, the most painful thing an animal can do is eat you while you're still alive. Yeah, yeah, I'd say so. So I'm about to send you guys. Seems like a tough way to go.

I'm going to. Whitey would eat you. No. If you died. in the house you think what he would eat you if i was dead if i was alive no i'm about good dog won't won't do it cats will dog will stand by your side and starve i'd want him to eat i think that has happened cats oh dude there's this crazy story of this guy who had like a bunch of monitor lizards and uh he was in um i was in florida and he's one of these dudes that's like got tons of like

these giant monitors and you let them roam around the house and they're giant right yeah Like dogs. Yeah. And this guy, I think, was into drugs. Yeah, no shit. And he passed out on the couch and the monitors ate them. Listen, I'm, I don't want to do takes about anybody's death. Mm-hmm.

But go off. But. Kind of what you signed up for. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You had to expect at some point something was going to go wrong with your giant house of lizards. Have you ever seen giant lizards?

feed. I have not. They are some of the most, look up on YouTube, look up like, Asiatic Monitor feeding. Eats, uh, a rat. I just watched a video. I was searching tarantula hawk on, uh, YouTube. And it came up with a video of this guy who puts a python,

a Pac-Man frog, a tarantula, and a centipede all in a four-by-four glass box. And they fight to the death. there the python fucking climbs up the thing and sits on the ledge and just watches yeah and the frog eats the centipede and then the tarantula somehow gets to the top too yeah did he build a web or something wait what type of pacman for pacman frogs are it says it says pac man frog packman frogs are kind of yeah pacman frogs aren't as cool they're like smaller than african bullfrogs but african bullfrogs are so much more it looks very similar to the kind of frog you say you like yeah but those ones don't have teeth african bullfrocks have teeth um are you watching it yeah i'm watching

feeding it's violent as fuck yeah they just go because they try to they writhe and they try to snap the neck whatever they're biting what is this billy what animal here i'll send the like a monitor lizard um monitor eats rabbit well not a rabbit yeah so so that's not the most graphic thing I'm going to send you guys um this just popped up on my feed today and I'm

these are human remains oh I don't want to watch stop it's not stop monitor water monitor that's not that's not human remains

I don't want to watch a human get eaten I'm no you're not You're not going to watch a human get eaten. You just said eating human remains. No, I said these are. Even this is fucked up, Billy. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

Imagine that killing someone. What was the human remains part? Okay, so now I think the most painful animal in the world is a grizzly bear. Because I've just found, I've, so today on Reddit, I'll just mind my own business. um looking for stuff that's the opposite of what you're doing when you're when you're prowling reddit no yeah i'm working i'm trying to find stuff to blog about not minding your own business i'm trying to find stuff to blog about well i was on four chan just kind of minding my own business and then next thing you know i got radicalized i was on reddit and i follow a page

called nature's metal and up popped um an enormous brown bear went on a killing spree in russia and I'm like, what? Then I click on it and then I realized they were straight up showing the pictures of the people who'd been eaten by bears.

Yeah, I'm going to pass on that one. So like, it was, yeah, it was one of those things I was like, how the hell is this allowed on the internet? But it was literally like, you know how they talk about Russians and Adidas track suits?

Yeah. It was a dude in Adidas track suit who was eaten. Like, have you seen grizzly man? actually haven't you would love grizzly man except it's very it's brutal at the end so he dies do they play the audio no what they do is they have warner herzog i think he's the director uh watch it and they they have him listen to it and he takes the headphones off and he's like you must destroy this

nobody nobody must listen to this again yeah i think a bear so bears will just each because you're nothing to a bear a bear will just eat you while you're still alive And there's actually an example of another place in Russia. So it turns out in Russia, they're encroaching into Siberia. And like they're building new developments out there. And there's a huge population boom. No, there's not a population boom, but there's a lot of development. So there was an example of a woman who was being eaten by a bear who called her mother three times during the bear eating her.

to like tell her like help call police the bear is eating me right now and like the reason she could and you're like what the hell you can call someone while you're being eaten by a bear that's because the bear was focused not on like restraining or fighting but just eating the human so it's about this um woman uh uh Tizganegov called her mom. She screamed, Mom, the bear is eating me. Mom, it's such agony.

Mom, help. Her mother, Tatiana, said at first she thought she was joking, but then I heard the real horror pain in Olga's voice and the sounds of a bear growling and chewing. I could have died then and there from shock. Unknown to Tatiana, the bear had already killed her husband, Igor, by overpowering him, breaking his neck and smashing his skull. Olga, a trainee psychologist, saw the attack on her stepfather in tall grass

and reads by the river in rush and fled for 70 yards before the mother bear grabbed her leg. As a creature toyed with her, she managed to call Tatiana several times during the prolonged attack. Tatiana rang her husband, not knowing he was already dead, but got no answer. In a second call, a week old gas, mom, the bears are back. She came back and brought her three babies. They're eating me. With the bears having apparently left her to die, she said, mom, it's not hurting anymore. I don't feel the pain.

Forgive me for everything. I love you so much. While she was being eaten. Jesus Christ. Imagine being eaten. I don't give a fuck with any of these little bugs stinging. The most painful animal on earth is a gigantic brown bear or probably any type of bear except black bear eating you.

Yeah, that's, uh, it's pretty bad, Billy. It's very bad, Billy. But it sounds like she went numb at some point. Yeah. So, but it must have been pretty painful getting your internal organs getting eaten. Yeah, I would just, I would ask the bear politely. Just, I would present my neck to it. Just be like, dude, take me out.

that's gross that's gross billy um it was it was the most painful thing i didn't so i was like it just popped up do you guys want do you guys want to see the original pictures i mean russian internet no i definitely don't russian internet is is fucked up i feel like they have a different internet all together over there hard pass hard pass for me yeah i'm not a fan of that all right any other painful shit that you guys don't want to deal with Did I just like kill the... Watching our sports teams lose? Yeah, it's pretty bad.

It's probably what stings the most. What about the old torture method where they would take a rat and they would put it in like a metal pot? They've done this in a movie too, but it was a former ancient torture. They would take a rat, put it in a metal pot and then put the pot on top of your stomach. And then they would put a blow torch on the pot,

get it super hot, the rat doesn't know where to go. The only place it can go is down into your body. Oh, geez. just started biting through you and then just yeah did that in a horror movie recently i forget what it was yeah it's been in a couple movies was in it what's that one that once oh i'm a puke oh jesus okay we're going to take a break from the convo real quick but please stay tuned after this video we found a corner of the internet that we had not know existed big t is very very fired up about this i'm fired up billy's fired up in a different way but it is um it's shocking

It's shocking that we found a new type of person online, and I think that we're obsessed with him right now. So before we get to those people, we're going to do the interview with Coyote Peterson, the man that's been bitten and stung by more things and probably anybody ever, he's brought to you by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. If you're one of those people who thinks it's okay to drive stoned,

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We've been talking about him for a few months now. Coyote Peterson, a legend. I would say that you might be an Internet Hall of Famer. Well, thank you guys. That's a wonderful compliment. to be here today. And as far as the Internet Hall of Fame, never even thought about that being a thing in the world of animals, I would probably maybe fit into that category.

Yeah, I'd say like as far as wilderness stuff goes, as far as nature shows go, animal shows, you are definitely, you're the guy. You're the internet guys. So it's great to have you on. You can check about Brave Wilderness's channel on YouTube. And he's doing some conservation stuff with Save the Horns, trying to protect endangered rhinos. You can check that out. Is it savethehorns.com?

Yeah, savethehorns.com if you want to help the vanishing giants of our planet. Yeah, I think we do. I'm on board for that. Megafauna. Megafauna. Yeah, we're a big megafauna podcast. So it's awesome to have you on. I think a lot of people probably know you from the stinging and the biting videos,

which you kind of distance yourself from a little bit. I totally understand why. We'll get into that in a little bit. But maybe can you just give like a little bit of background to yourself, like how you started up. your channel how you figured that like you could be um you know the steve irwin of the internet kind of yeah so really it was a whole lot of nose being told no this is never going to work that ultimately built up and built up and built up until we were able to stand on it and finally

find a yes but uh my background i went to school at the ohio state university and i created my own major was called a personalized study program in screenwriting producing and directing So I have a very healthy knowledge of the entertainment industry as a whole and what it takes to build brands, make storytelling exciting. And once I got out of college and went on the independent film road for a while, a couple of projects that didn't work out, my business partner, Mark, and I landed on this idea of making the next big animal adventure series. I've always loved animals. At the time, in 2006, Steve Irwin had recently passed away, which was tragic. for everybody. And at the same time, Bear Grills from Man versus Wild was sort of beginning to make his rise. So we saw a void. We saw what was popular when we said, well, how do we bring the fast-paced

style of adventure that Bear Grills was creating? But instead of killing and eating animals, how do we bring the love and the education and the conversation in like Steve Irwin did? And then sort of the Steven Spielberg side, which is really my background. And Stephen Spielberg is a huge inspiration of mine, all kind of tied it together from the storytelling and filmmaking perspective. And we found ourselves launching on YouTube. And here we are nine years later, still doing it. Very cool. So from the start, like, did you know that you were going to be a hat guy? Because I feel like if you want to be like a real, like known as a conservationist and animal fanatic, you have to have either the khaki vest or the hat. So was there like a come to

Jesus moment where you had to decide, am I going to be a vest guy or am I going to be a hat guy? Well, I think I'm a vest and a hat guy. And while I don't have any hair at this point, truth be told, I had hair when we started all of this. So that's the entertainment industry stress for you that can knock your hair off. But we were really inspired to do that the hat direction based off of Indiana Jones. So Indiana Jones obviously huge inspiration on what I portray on screen with like an adventurous, some gear, some not gear sort of designed to things. And we knew that people would recognize it, right? We had to do something that would stamp Coyote Peterson as unique. You've got a lot of show hosts in the past that have dabbled in hats here and

there, but it's kind of become a staple for us where people recognize the silhouette, almost like you were able to do with Indiana Jones in the Spielberg movies. Yeah, it's a solid look. So you start out, you're producing your own content, which I think a lot of people, you know, when you were getting started, people probably wanted to do their own content on YouTube in the hopes of one day becoming, you know, a television star. And I know that you've done some work for some of the networks, but it feels like you had the right idea where you could make all your own content on YouTube without the pressures coming in from the outside. And, you know, you wouldn't be getting notes from anybody about your creative direction. And it kind of lets you grow a massive, massive

audience that way. When you were getting started, was your goal to end up on television? Or were you're like, I'm going to do this on my own for as far as it'll take me. Well, there were several years before we launched the YouTube channel where Mark and I were pitching Brave Wilders as a television concept. Five years, actually, is how long it took us. You know, they say put in like 10,000 hours before something, you know, actually goes somewhere. We spent five years developing Brave Wilderness as a TV series, pitching it to different production companies, getting close here and there. But again, it just continued to be the series. of nose where at the time there were a lot of ensemble shows, you know, the duck dynasties, the

dual survival where it was like, well, a single guy running around out there catching animals and getting them up close with the camera isn't going to be a thing anymore. You know, planet Earth and all of those big BBC type series where people were admiring animals from a really far distance with the Zoom lens seemed to be what was popular. We really kind of refused to take that as the end-all be-all answer. I mean, I grew up on, you know, Steve. and Jeff Corwin, Marty Stauffer, Austin Stevens, and these guys that were on the adventure, diving into the environment and immersing themselves into the experience. And we knew that for a younger generation, that was going to be important. So when all the television networks told us

no, and we started on YouTube, we quickly realized that, like, man, we don't have anybody telling us what animals to pursue, what storylines to create. And when we eventually built brave wilderness to a certain level of success, all of those television networks came flocking back to say, hey, guys, we got to do a TV show now. Ultimately, we ended up doing one with Animal Planet that was a very uniquely structured deal in that we retained all ownership rights to the intellectual property that is Brave Wilderness, Coyote Peterson. You know, they financed the show. They own the actual rights to that series, but nothing with Brave Wilderness, the YouTube channel, or anything like that were they acquiring from us. So it allowed us,

to in tandem be creating for television while also continue to create on YouTube, but we also had full creative control of Brave the Wild, which was that Animal Planet series. It was 18-part series and, you know, right down the final cut. So the final end-all be-all was me and my post-production team saying, this is the narrative that we're giving to the world. And that was a very exciting spot to be in. I love that.

So I did a bad job introducing you because I think the first thing that I should have asked you is what's up with the name Coyote? how did you get the name coyote it's a badass nickname coyote's a nickname i've actually had since i was a really little kid and the short version of the story is my mom used to take me out west as a kid quite a bit to arizona Tucson area specifically and i love catching lizards so i was always chasing lizards around trying to catch them and i very quickly recognized that roadrunners which specifically love to prey on lizards would also be hunting for the same thing so I would follow roadrunners around hoping that, like, they'd leave me lizards.

I could scare off the roadrunner and then try to catch the lizard. And my mom started calling me the coyote, like Wiley Coyote from the Warner Brothers cartoon. That caught on with my neighborhood friends playing street baseball and basketball. Eventually, we dropped the dutch, just became coyote. And I carried that moniker for quite a few years when I was younger, but then kind of ditched it when I got to high school. I was like, yeah, don't know if going into a new high school, like people are going to want to necessarily be. friends of somebody named Coyote and gone swamps catching turtles didn't necessarily seem like the good way to get dates on a Friday night. So kind of straight off until we came back to the

animal show stuff. And then it's kind of stuck and we continue wrong with it. Yeah, Coyote is a badass nickname. But you're right. I feel like you have to be either like a superstar athlete in high school or you have to be like the first guy with a beard in high school to pull off the nickname coyote. I'm glad you came back to it. I was able to grow a beard pretty early on. But I always had to shave. I could get like five o'clock shadow after a couple days grown in. So at least had that going. Cool, cool. Yeah. So you mentioned catching lizards. We've done rankings of lizards and amphibians on the show. Can you rank your top five favorite reptiles? Yeah. So all-time favorite animal and reptile in one is the common snapping turtle, which is a large predatory turtle

species. Big here in Ohio. I mean, they get huge. The largest one I've ever caught was 55 pounds. I mean, these things are dragons for all purposes, you know, aggressive, scaly, big claws, long spike tail. I mean, they're just so much fun to catch. And it's kind of what I was able to practice on. We always make this joke that if Steve Irwin had the crocodile, coyote Peterson had the snapping turtle. And that's where I learned the art of being able to catch and safely interact with things. So snapping turtle number one, all time. Komodo dragon is definitely my favorite lizard.

It's a species I have not filmed with yet in the wild, but want to do Komodo at some point. From there, I've been very into anacondas. I got to swim with anacondas for the animal plant series. So I'd say that's my favorite snake. So turtle, lizard, snake. Probably my favorite frog species is the Goliath frog, which we have not gotten the chance to film with you. I mean, these things are like, it's like the world's biggest frog. So we're hoping to do that at some point.

And then salamander wise, I would probably say the Japanese giant salamander, which I got to work with in Japan, worked with the largest living one in existence at this point is about five and a half feet in length. It was freaking amazing. So yeah, there's my top five reptiles and amphibians. So Billy's our animal expert. Billy, how would you rank his top five list? Very high. The anaconda is the only one that, but all the rest of the picks, I love. You hate the anaconda? No, the other picks are way better. common snapping turtle I think always gets overshadowed by the alligator snapping turtle but alligator snapper ambush predator not too active common snapper is a much more predatory animal

does a lot more hunting more mobile sort of so totally love that pick goliath frog love giant frog that's your favorite frog right well my favorite philly's got a weird thing for frogs billy's kind of like i don't know if you kind of feel the same way but billy i think is sexually attracted to frogs That's a joke they run here because I like frogs so much. I don't go that far, but they're cute, I guess. No, I like African bullfrogs, the pixie frogs a little more than the Goliath, just because I've had a little more up close and personal experience with the pixie frogs. I used to keep a couple, and they just grow into these Jabba the huts.

They're just awesome. They're super cool. But, yeah, and I've never encountered Japanese giant salamander. Hellbenders is the only thing I've found, but that's like an American giant. salamander. But I mean, that must have been insane being up close and personal with that one. Yeah, we got to work with the world's most renowned giant salamander herpetologist. His name was Okada Sensei. Akata Sensei, this guy was like a Yoda man. It was so cool getting to learn from him. He doesn't speak English. So we had a translator. We went out to the back country

of the Tatori Prefecture of Japan, caught these salamanders in the wild. And he did all his biometric work and if they don't have pit tags in and we'd insert pit tags. And then the giant, giant one, the huge one is at their facility in the Tertory Prefecture. It's like this weird old building looks like something out of the Walking Dead and they have like all of these big like almost swimming pools that are constantly flowing, fresh, freezing cold water and the salamanders are in there. And the biggest one that's ever lived is there in captivity. So it's pretty cool. And it was actually caught during the building of a bridge and it was injured and could not be released back out into the wild.

So like they brought it up from the depths in like the scoop of like a backhoe building a bridge and they're like, holy crap, we caught a dragon, you know. And then obviously we saved and rehabilitated and now they have it. Now those giant salamanders, their predatory activity, are they more of a like what are they feeding on and could you almost relate some of their behavior to crocodiles or alligators? Are they a little more amphibian in that they're going after, you know, invertebrates? Or are they taking on any larger prey like a pixie frog or whatnot? Yeah.

So I would like it really more to like a catfish in the structure of how they use airflow to like suck stuff into their mouths. And then, you know, they have very fine almost like cheese grater type teeth and a big raspy plate on the top of their skull. So they will just crush things apart and swallow them whole. So fish, frogs, snakes. Other salamanders, they vary territorial. So the bigger a salamander is, if smaller ones move in, they'll just eat the smaller ones. So, yeah, they're pretty ruthless creatures, that's for sure.

Some of the most unique animals on earth, those giant salamanders. Yeah. It must have been amazing to be so close to them. Basically, your life is what Billy wants to do for his career. So I'm going to let Billy cook for a little bit. Billy, I'm trusting you just go off. Ask him whatever, whatever you want inside that head of yours. No, I mean, honestly.

some of your most renowned work is your how many times you've been stung. I mean, I know you probably get that a lot, but you're probably the, you know, the only person who's had so many different bites in all of history. I mean, you've probably experienced the worst bites of all time. Were there any, any sorts of bites or encounters that you considered that were way too far that you would never do? Or do you think you hit them all? Um, you know, there's always going to be something else to be bitten by, so to speak.

I actually just filmed an episode of Florida Keys. My arm is all messed up right now. I don't know if you can really see that or not. Yeah, yeah. I was just bitten by something called a tarpin with, which is a giant fish. There's a famous place in the Florida Keys called Robbies that has this very unique background with why the tarpenter there. And one fish specifically named Scarface that was rehabilitated after getting hit by a boat motor. It's like eight feet long, and I got bitten by Scarface.

I had to get bit by multiple fish before we were finally able to get Scarface to essentially swallow my arm and shake me around it. I mean, it messed me up for sure. And I was showing you how not to feed the tarpon at Robbies because this is a thing that people can just come out and do from the dock. And what you don't want to do is what I did. So we sort of made it educational. But, you know, the only time I'd say that we pushed, I wouldn't say that we pushed,

I wouldn't say that we pushed too far, but, you know, one that I was like, man, I know this is going to be bad. I don't know how bad it's going to be was the giant desert centipede and just like relentless pain and the swelling. And after nine hours of excruciating pain, I finally went to an emergency center and got like adult strength Advil, wink, wink, where they were like, yeah, take this for the pain for the next 36 hours and you should be good. So that kind of saved my butt there. But the worst pain I've ever experienced from a bite was actually from a heel of monster, the only venomous lizard in the United States, but it was an accidental bite. I was filming it with a GoPro, like a dingus, not using a selfie stick. It was super calm.

It was in the morning. It was cool. It was cold out. So I was like, well, it's going to be moving super slow anyways. It swung around, grabbed a hold of my thumb. And I ripped my thumb out of its mouth. I mean, my finger was in there for no more than two seconds. less. And it got enough venom into my thumb to be the most excruciating pain I've ever felt

that lasted for about eight hours. I could feel the venom travel all the way out my arm and into like my upper right side of my chest, which I feel I was lucky because it was on the side with my heart. I might have had some more complications. But my body eventually absorbed it all. It sounds really gross. But the next day I had massive diarrhea and my body just like expunged all of the toxins. My body like flushed. itself out and then I was fine. Wow. So whose idea was it to have you start getting stung and bitten intentionally? I know the Gila Monster was, that was a mistake. That was unintentional. Yeah. But as far as the ones that you do where you're going by it was the Schmidt pain index

where you're getting stung and bitten by the most painful stuff, was that, was that your idea to get started? Or was that somebody else that's like, hey, Coyote, I've got this great idea. You're just going to get fucked up for the next like 15 years of your life. Yeah. Well, funny enough is it's not that it was necessarily so much somebody's idea as it was a warning from my mom, strangely enough. When we were filming, she lives in Tucson, Arizona now, like way out in the middle of nowhere, right on the almost the border of Mexico. And there's a harvester ant nest in her backyard. And we were getting ready to go out into the wilderness behind her house to go look for stuff and film. She's like, oh, man, look out for those harvestry ants. I got stung by one the other day.

It, like, lit me up. And I was like, what? I didn't even know what that was. So we went out, we investigated the nest. You know, I walked around by it. All the ants started coming out. I'm like, oh, man, this is pretty crazy. Like, they're sizable little ants. So we did a little research and learned that it is one of the most venomous insects based on its yield per sting, right? So the amount of venom that comes out is not a lot, but it's super toxic.

So we're like, well, cool. Let's do an episode where I put my hands into the ant nest and we'll see what happens. that then began this snowball sort of direction to learning about Justin Schmidt and the insect sting pain index, where the bullet ant ranked, the things that led up to the bullet ant, and then can you go beyond what that is? So, yeah, it was just kind of happen chance that we filmed that episode, which honestly turned into a complete crap show with ants getting in my pants, which we didn't expect. The chaotic nature of the production was like, yeah, don't even think we've got an episode there. But then when we brought it into post and I was editing it together, I was like, well, it's a piece of content. Let's put it out there. And the audience just loved it.

And from there, it just started a skyrocket. I mean, we had less than a million subscribers. We might only have like half a million subscribers when that episode came out. So that was really the thing that set off the rocket ship. Yeah, it's a total double-edged sword on that one. It's like, well, it turns out my audience loves to see me in pain. I guess I bet the audience is always right. Better keep feeding him some red meat.

And then, you know, years. later you're out there getting stung by like the craziest things possible and that's right that's kind of what you were known for for a little bit um i i know that understand that you've like trying to pivoted away from that a little bit because obviously you can't there's only certain things that you can get stung by you know you're not going to go out there and get bitten by a by like a rattlesnake or a cobra that's got venom you know that's just not you're not going to actively try to die although have you thought about like how how many views you would get if you did get bitten by a cobra?

I mean, like, and that's where like there's a strategy to brave wilderness that's very well calculated, right? Like, we know because we've got experts who work with, we've got an in-house wildlife biologists, like there are just certain things that are way too far off the spectrum to even, you know, begin to envision going down that road. Like, you know, people are like, oh my gosh, when are you going to get bitten by a shark? Well, never intentionally because even a. small shark opening you up is like, dude, you're going to the hospital.

You might bleed out. You know, I mean, it's, there's no like minor shark bite, right? You know, with, when it comes to venom, it's all about how your body reacts to venom, right? But there are some venoms like a king cobra or a rattlesnake or, you know, a goon viper that are like, you're now playing Russian roulette with a gun that has five bullets in it, right? five out of the six chambers is loaded. Like you are in a lot of trouble and you don't know how your body's going to react to the venom or how it's going to react to the anti-venom that they have to use.

Actually, in many instances, when people get bitten by venomous snakes, things compound when they add in the anti-vanna because of an allergic reaction that somebody has to that. So it's just not worth the risk. We've found creative ways to milk venomous snakes, working with a professional team and then pulling blood out of my body to mix the. venom in the blood together and look at it under a microscope to show you what's happening. And it is catastrophic damage.

So, you know, it's about being, being smart with what we are bitten and stung by. I saw that one where your blood cells were basically exploding as the venom was touching it. And yeah, you don't want that inside your body. Would you consider yourself to be a tough guy or are you a guy that's just like, you know, can you get into, do you get into like a meditative zone when you get stung by things where you're just trying to block out the pain as much as possible? Um, you know, the pain that I've gone through is definitely its own level of intense. And the more things that I've done, the easier it becomes to, you know, recognize that it's temporary, right? And you can sort of meditate through it in, in some regards. But again, to each thrown, so to your question of, am I a tough guy? I definitely would say I'm not a tough guy. I would say I have a high pain tolerance. You know, and I go through a lot of things that most people like, dude, that's crazy. How could you ever?

put yourself in that position, I look at it more from the educational and entertainment side of things to say, look, people are confused by these animals. Most of the time, they're afraid of them. If I can show somebody the worst case scenario and show you that, yeah, it's going to be painful, but look it out hard it was for me to, A, get to the location where this animal is, B, to actually find it and catch it and C, get in those little forceps and get it on my form. Like, these animals don't have any interest in biting or stinging you. They really want to get away. So a sting is always going to be used as a defense to allow an animal to escape potential predation. So, you know, again, we strategically set up and design these moments for there

to be education, conservation where it's applicable. But first and foremost, entertainment. I mean, Brave Wilderness is an entertainment brand through and through. And the world of animals specifically is hard to drum up a lot of support behind unless you can get people excited and entertained by what it is that they're going to watch. Now, after the sting, when you finally get that sense of relief, is that like feeling, is that like kind of addicting? Just like the come down? The relieving part is once we've wrapped an episode and we know that it all went off well and my team is like, yep, we got the shots. Yep, we saw you getting stung. Like, you know what I mean? Like the thing you don't want is for a shot to not be gotten and it'll be like, oh, man, we got to get another

sting shot. We didn't get the shot the first time, you know, and we have not had really any scenarios where we've had to refill something. We might rehold an insect in forceps to get a macro shot of me just holding it super still so you can see it stinger coming out again. The other thing that we try to do is not put too much stress on the insects during this process because every time they're putting out their sting or getting mad, they're also exerting some of that venom. So I always try to get as pure of a sting as I can on that initial hit, right? Because the venom is not endless. They have a venom sack. And if they're getting rid of it, trying to sting something aimlessly, it's still getting expunged. So we try to be very careful with that. But yeah,

to more directly answer the question, it's the relief comes once it's in the can. And we know we've got a piece of content that we're pretty confident is going to reach a lot of people. Do you have a safe word that you use when you're being filmed when it's like, okay, now really turn the cameras off and let me, let me go seek help if it gets to a certain level of pain? Or because when you say, like, when they ask you, should we turn the cameras off? I imagine sometimes you're thinking, yeah, this is so much pain. I need to, I need somebody to look at me. But they have to know, like, it's good for content if you're in pain, which is such a weird thing for a crew to be dealing with with you while you're on camera. The only time that there was ever like, hey, let's actually cut the cameras was when I got bitten by the giant desert centipede, but we also strategically from a filmmaking perspective knew that we were going to cut that episode into two parts, the bite version and then the venom extraction tool version, which venom extraction things are a huge farce. They don't really work. So we got a little bit of kickback from the audience on that for even using one of those, which we kind of knew doing it, but the entertainment value of like, let's see if we

can suck venom out of my arm from the giant desert centipede was extremely popular. So, you know, we kind of just ran with it in that sense. But we did strategically work at a part that was like, I mean, I legit was in an insane amount of pain. And it's like, I cut the cameras. Let's see what's actually happening here. Let's let the swell a little bit. And then let's bring in the venom extractor for the second part of the episode. Reset the cameras. Boom. And we just run right with it. Yeah, yeah, real quick, are you telling me that like I've watched a lot of Western movies. If you get bitten by a snake and they always suck the venom out, they suck the side of the bite, that doesn't work? No, absolutely not. That is the worst thing

you can do because you're putting more stress and more damage on that area. And if you're trying to suck out venom, you may then be getting that venom on something or someone else at the same time. And you can touch snake venom, right? So snake centipede, two different types of venom. Snake venom, you can drink snake venom. And if you don't have an open store in your mouth, like a canker sore or you didn't cut yourself flossing you don't have any lesions inside your body you can digest and pass venom without it getting into your bloodstream so to speak but it's when venom is actually injected into the bloodstream that it becomes a problem now no one should ever try to drink venom even though people have but when it comes to a venom

extractor that actually causes more damage than it will help okay do you think your body's experienced the widest variety of poisons and venoms of any human ever? No, I think that Justin Schmidt has definitely taken more of a variety of venoms because I, so Justin Schmidt who created the Insect Sting Pain Index,

he is like the godfather of this science, right? He got stoned by way more things than I did. Just a lot of them were way lower down on the scale, right? We sort of jumped. So if he wrote the novel, we Steven Spielberg did and made the movie.

We're like, let's just jump right to the action parts and do the worst stings because we know that's what's going to be entertaining and actually since then we've gone back and started doing more of like the backyard stings the common things like your basic hornets or a basic paper wasp because honestly people are much more likely to encounter something like that than a Japanese giant hornet so we we did it strategically at a point in time that we never knew the the rocket ship ride for these bites and sinks was ever going to be as popular as it was like we were learning this as we were going along and as the audience was building and building and building up the anticipation and the

viewership and the subscriber count on the brave wilderness channel. So is there is there a insect or an animal that you've been stung or bitten by that according to the Schmidt pain index scale, you thought was overrated? You're like, oh, this this isn't that bad. Well, I do know that Justin was not stung by the same variety of giant hornet that I was stung by. There are several different giant hornet species. What I was stung by is the actual true Japanese giant hornet, which he had not been stung by, which I ranked right there with the bullet ant at the top crux of it all. But just above that is the executioner was wasp, which is also something Justin was never

stung by. The reason we made the executioner wasp, the ultimate king of sting, broke down into things that went beyond just the pain of the venom. It had to do with the fact that like, all right, if Justin's a lot, if Justin Schmidt ranked the bullet ant as the top of this sting index, the giant hornet, which is a bigger insect all around and can be found in swarms and can sing repetitively and it flies is much more dangerous than stumbling into a nest, a bullet ants, right? So the pain was about equivalent, swelling about equivalent, but the executioner wasp also capable of swarming and the sting

actually had some necrotic components to the venom. And it's actually the only, sting that I ever have gotten a scar from, it sort of cooked a hole in my arm and put like a pockmark, almost like you would get from like, you know, if you had acne, you had like really bad zits and it makes like those pock marks. Imagine like that or like a divot in my forearm that existed for several months from the venom. Damn, I got bit by a bunch of brown recluses one time. I was working in a wood pile. And so, really? Yeah, I have one on the side of my face right here. And it's still like a tiny little mark that goes in, got bit like on my collarbone, on my leg. I didn't know what it was. Because when you get bit by a spider, sometimes you don't

realize that you've been bit by a spider, especially if you're working, you're walking around. And so then a couple days later, I get these lesions and over the course the next couple days at least. And then they don't go away. I go to a doctor. They're like, yeah, it's a, it's a brown recluse bite. So there is like a little bit of that necrotic, uh, experience that you have you ever been bitten by like a real venomous spider? Nope. So I've done free handling with the Black Widow, with the Black Widow and the brown recluse, which are the two most potent spider species in the United States. The most dangerous spider I've ever worked with is something called a Sydney Funnel Web spider. I work with professionals in Australia to catch

and milk those spiders. That's the only spider that they make anti-venom for. And the male Sydney funnel web spider, if you're bitten by one, is 100% going to kill you in almost every instance. So maybe I should say at like 99.9% positive. But if you get bitten by a male Sydney Funnelweb spider, you have to get anti-venom or it will be a very slow, very painful death. Yeah, those spiders are so cool. And I love the milking videos that you do to see the venom that's coming out of the fangs of that thing. And the tiny little, it's almost like a little vacuum that they have to use like on its fangs, right?

You have to have like the most steady hands in the world and just get those drops of the venom out. Those things are ferocious, man. And I think one thing you don't get enough credit for sometimes is your ability to spot animals. You're really good at, I don't know if any of it's like stuff that you stage. Maybe it's something that like you know that there's a snake here and you see ahead of time and you have the camera follow you up. But I see some of the snakes that you spot and the spiders that you spot under logs. And I have no idea how you see those. How long has it taken like have you always had a good eye for those things or is it just experience and being out and seeing them in nature a lot?

Yeah, great question. So two-part answer there. When it comes to spotting things in the wild, that is a huge piece of the art form that myself and also my wildlife biologist Mario are just, we're just good at it, right? We're really good at it. And it comes from the training of looking for snapping turtles.

So when a snapping turtle comes to the surface, it will only put the tiny piece of its nose up. Sometimes it'll go a little higher and put its eyes up, but even still in mud and weeds, like you're looking for a very, very, very, very, distinct abnormality to the environment. A lot of times it might just look like a piece of a plant or a log sticking up. And it's those sorts of like macro focus moments that we also recognize in other animal

species for sort of taking out their camouflage defenses, seeing them before they see us. And many times an animal is going to rely on its camouflage and you can get really close to it and it's just going to sit there and do nothing. Like, okay, I'm assuming you don't see me until we're actually. in pursuit of it. When it comes to the things that we feature on the channel, we work very, very hard to make sure that we are never staging scenarios. Do we recreate scenarios to certain points in time? Yes. And we usually tell the audience when we're doing that. Or if we have caught something off camera and then we bring it into the scene, it's like, hey, we caught this last night.

Cameras were already down. We held on to it. Here's how we're going to show it to you guys today. So we don't ever go out into the wild with like an animal in a container. and go like, toss it over there in the bushes and be like, all right, let's see if we can find it now. Like, we put in the time and the effort to make sure we're finding things naturally in the wild. Yeah, that's, that's some of the scariest parts of me actually is when you're just walking through, you know, the, the jungles of Costa Rica and you're shining your tiny little flashlight and you're like, stop. Everybody stop because there's a fur to lance over there and I see it. And then they zoom in on the camera and I still don't see it even after you guys

have zoomed in. Is there any like close encounter that you've had with an animal that's unplanned, something that you weren't expecting when you were out on a shoot that made your heart stop and looking back, you're like, holy shit, that was really scary. Yeah, I mean, dozens of them. And since you mentioned Fertilance, one of my closest calls was with a furtileance. And by close call, I mean something that didn't happen that if it had happened, would have been a life altering emergency situation. We were filming in Costa Rica and I caught what's called a cat-eyed snake, It's very skinny. It looks like a vine with these big buggy eyes.

And I caught it. You know, it's non-aggressive, non-venomous. I'm handling it. And the team's like, cool, let's crouch down here so you can just kind of let the snake slink around on you. We investigated the area flashing around flashlights. Okay, cool. No fertilants anywhere. There was one leaf, one palm leaf hanging over that we did not look under and curled up like this big in a ball was a fertile lance.

A juvenile fertilance, about two and a half feet in length. Size doesn't matter when it comes to the potency of a fertilance is venom. I'm crouched down presenting the snake for almost two minutes. And one of my on location, we call them fixers, they're experts in the location that get us access to certain properties. He's like, coyote, coyote, fertilants. And I hop up expecting to see something slithering out of the darkness. I kid you not, less than two feet away from me, there's this snake curled up under the sleeve. If I had lost my balance, put my hand back, if it had bit me, it would have bit me right near my kidneys.

So immediately you would have had venom near vital organs and it would have been honestly, quite possibly could have killed me if we had knock on up. We're in the middle of nowhere in Secura, Costa Rica. So it was a really scary moment. Damn. We're going to get back to Coyote Peterson in a second. He's brought to you by our friends at Three Chi. You don't need to live in a recreational state to get your hands on Delta 9, THC. 3Chi has federally legal dispensary-grade cannabis products that deliver straight to your door.

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All right, Billy, go cook. I mean, the gimpy-gimpy. I know there's been a lot of, would you ever in-cats? So the gimpy-gimpy-gimpy is one of the... I don't even know what the gimpy-gimpy-gimpy is. The Gimpy Gimpy is So it's called the suicide plant There's tons of people

When I was looking into it There's this plant in Australia That if you touch it It basically has the worst sting Of any plant on earth It's super painful In World War II Soldiers used to accidentally

Use it as a toilet paper And cause them the most excruciating pain like the worst poison eye like the worst thing ever it has tiny little lances that get into you with some of the worst poison that some say lasts for years have you ever looked into this plant have you ever i mean it sounds like i wouldn't want you to do it but there's a large contingency of people i see who ask like coyote peters and do the gimpy gimpy touch the gimpy gimpy and i just wanted to hear your thoughts on it because that's something that I would, you know, never even want to consider. If you look it up, it's,

it's someone on National Geographic did it. I don't know. Can't remember his name exactly, but it's supposed to be like the worst sting of all time. Wow. We have, we have not found a way yet to necessarily make plants as entertaining as animals when it comes to like put yourself in a worst case scenario. You know what I mean? Like I miraculously do not. get poison ivy or poison oak like any of those poison plants have no effect on me whatsoever i can pick poison ivy and be like and nothing happens so even if i did get it the thing that would suck about poison ivy is like you wouldn't see it happen on camera it would be days later and you'd be super miserable so a lot of times with plants it's like you don't see enough of a reaction

happening instantaneously to make it worth ever trying to make it entertaining if that makes sense Maybe bull nettle. That hits you pretty hard and pretty quick. Yeah. And nettle does affect me, but it comes and goes very quickly. And honestly, it's like a little bit of a red rash and then that's it. I actually not enough to really make it entertaining. For the show, I would 100% get poison ivy and rubbing on myself live because I've never gotten

poison ivy in my life. My sister gets it terribly. Be careful because that can change. I didn't used to be allergic. And then all of a sudden one time I got it, like your body, your body's reaction to it can change. I think Billy's right though. I think the way to do it would be just using the most painful plants as toilet paper.

And that would be the show. I feel like that would. I'll tell you what. I'm in full support, Billy. If you want to try this first and just write me a memo on how it went and then I'll consider it. No, I mean, I just wanted to hear your, you know, where you thought it landed on the scale and whatnot because we're doing an episode today on the most painful animals and plants. and I just wanted to bring up the gimpy-gimpy,

because it sounds terrifying. It's something to look into. I think, Billy, I will support, I'll support you gimpy-gimping yourself, wiping yourself from the gimpy-gipy-gipy plant. When you get stung by, I know that one time you accidentally got stung by like 32 Bs. It was like 60 plus Bs. Yeah. So when you get stung by multiple things at once, can you still feel the pain from each sting

individually or does it just become a massive pain that? blends together. The bee debacle, the beebeard gone wrong was one of the most painful experiences I've gone through. Honeybees specifically have a very potent sort of neurotoxin mixed in with their venom. That's because when a bee stings, it loses its stinger and venom sack and it keeps pumping to drive off a bear or a badger or whatever might be that's trying to get the honey out of the nest. And when that beebeard scenario went wrong, I mean, in my face, swelled up like an overcooked hot dog it was in insane amount of pain that lasted for about 10 minutes before it started like okay cool I can like breathe again I mean like my eyes were watering

it was just like oh my gosh my body just going to anaphylactic shock taking that many stings that quickly so in that scenario what exactly went wrong so I've seen a lot of people like we've all seen jackass where they take the queen bee and usually people you know people who know bees like my uncle's a beekeeper so he like smokes out the bees to calm him down what do you think went wrong that scenario where the bees just weren't weren't having it that day well we know what went wrong in theory right so chris brinton the guy that i worked with the honeybee expert um the bees that we started using to build the bee beard with they were a friendly docile stock of European bees. Where we shot the scene is in one of his bee yards. He's got multiple

b yards throughout Arizona. And a bee yard is a place where he goes and extracts an Africanized swarm and puts it in an area to genetically reprogram it by swapping out its queen. So there's a whole science to this. Where we were filming, we were too close to some of the other bee boxes. he thinks some of those bees got drawn in by just the pheromone coming off of me. So then you had a docile stock of European bees that began fighting with Africanized bees on my face. So it's like once one stung, it was like, okay, cool, one sting. And then there was another one. And then a couple minutes later, another one.

And then another one. It's like the pheromone, which is what alerts these bees to be like, hey, we're fighting for something here. They essentially started fighting. I wasn't even wearing a queen on my neck. I was just wearing a pheromone. I didn't even have a queen on me at that point. I did use the actual queen's necklace when I did this for Animal Planet and it went fine. We made a massive bee beard on me for Animal Planet that's different than what was on YouTube.

But it's essentially the bees got in a fight on my face and I was the punching bag. Well, Africanized bees. I mean, we'd love to hear your opinion on the giant Asian killer hornet in the Africanized bees. because I remember when Africanized bees first hit the scene, you know, I was watching the most extreme. I was seven. It was on animal planet. The top 10 countdown, they started talking about Africanized bees. I was like, oh, my God, these Africanized bees are invading. And all our good honeybees are going to start going extinct. And then just recently, all those giant Asian hornets started coming into the Pacific Northwest. How much of a threat do you think that they will be actually

and how concerned should the general public actually be when it comes to those two invasive species. So I know at this point, and I haven't looked into it at all recently, but when the whole murder hornet craze happened in 2020 or whenever it was, it was way more media hype than I think it needed to be. I wasn't complaining because everybody wanted to talk to the guy who'd been stung by the giant hornet. Actually, it continues to be one of the most popular episodes on our channel um but i know they have since discovered a nest or two in the upper pacific northwest area whether or not they're going to create a stronghold and breed and all of a sudden like we're just going to be one with africa or giant uh hornets at some point i'd say is really unlikely but i think

we probably said it was going to be really unlikely that we were going to have invasive pythons and invasive iguanas and anything that becomes an invader and finds the right longitude and latitude to exist on based on their migration patterns, their breeding patterns, et cetera, if they create a stronghold, they'll be there.

I don't think we're ever going to be worrying about like riding a subway in New York and all of a sudden there's going to be giant hornets on the train. You know what I mean? It's not likely. It would be a great movie. Hornets on a train. Yeah, that's it.

You just, yeah, you just sold a million seconds. Sting train. That's perfect. For some quick street cred, I've been stung by a sandhornet. I was trying to catch them. There was a golf course, and they were making their nests.

And sandhorns are huge. And I was fucking with them because I was catching them. What's more impressive from your perspective, being stung by a sandhornet or getting bitten by three brown recluse spiders? Brown recluse spiders are definitely way more damaging. So I think you win with the brown recluse. What's up, Billy? When you say a sandhornet, are you talking about cicada killers? are you talking about the cicada killer wasp or are you talking about the because the cicada killers

are pretty sizable was it was it was about as big as my thumb which is probably a cicada killer yeah yeah i got sunk so i was catching them with a butterfly neck so i was like what are these things these giant wasps and then my dad was like why don't we pour gasoline on their holes but turns out there's only like one in each hole is that is that a like something that you would advise doing as a Wildlife expert. Playing with gasoline period is probably not the far way to go ever. It is very cool, though. I've seen some videos where people pour like a molten metal.

Like I forget what kind of metal down into a fire ant nest. And then you get to see all the different tunnels underneath the ground. That's pretty badass too. But yeah, I feel like anytime that I see a video of somebody using like an accelerant, like a flammable liquid on a nest, it just ends up burning down their own house. right it was in a sand pit so it was safe yeah but still in all fairness for the cicada killers they're a solitary wasp so the females are the ones that are stinging and paralyzing the cicadas and then they drag them down into those holes lay an egg on the cicada it hatches and similar

to a tarantula hawk it feasts off of the the cicada that's there and the larvae grows and then it hatches out and cycle repeats itself so if you were to be lighting the ground on fire which cicada killers you're maybe killing one and that's about it that's what we realized because yeah it was a very fun series of events when i was like 11 yeah sounds like we one thing we were discussing on the show the other week billy brought it up um and maybe you can debunk it because billy you know he's on the he's on the bleeding edge of animal news on the internet so anytime there's a video that comes out where it's like oh this could be bigfoot billy's like yo they actually found bigfoot this time yeah there was was the black jaguar that was a little

Logically spotted? Yes. There, I mean, there's been reported sightings of Michigan about a large black big cat. It looks like a, you know, a black panther in the northern 48. So, I mean, I'd say, like, I don't, it's been like, it's one of those like monster quest episodes where there's like, is there black mountain lions? And even though there's no genealogical black mountain lions, there has been a bunch of spotting some large black cats. So I mean, there was one caught on a trip. I don't know what's your opinion on it, but I'm pretty convinced that there's some giant

black panthers row in North America. Billy just has to see a video on the internet and he's like, oh, it's real, probably. And then we work backwards and we debunk it after the fact. Well, we just did an episode on Jaguars that comes out later in September. I just spent amazing several weeks in the Pontinale region of Brazil. We saw 39 jaguar sightings in seven days in this one area, 19 different individuals. And my goal the whole time with the excerpts we were working with the big joke was, when am I going to see the melanistic jaguar? It does not exist. Like nobody has ever seen a black jaguar. Black leopards, I think, or maybe a little bit more common, never heard of a black mountain lion. And for context, there's no such thing as

a black panther, right? Panthera is a genus. Like there's, you know, they would call Mountain Lions Panthers, but it's a melanistic version of. of one of these cats. And while I know in Costa Rica, I have seen footage, actual truck camera footage on one of my friend's properties where he did get shots of a melanistic jaguar. And it was big news.

As far as they're being one in like the upper, the lower 48 states, not that I've ever heard of, but these cats escape can escape from captivity. You got to remember how many people have big cats in captivity. And if they're breeding things genetically, a certain way in captivity, not impossible. Nothing's impossible at this point. Okay, so speaking of nothing's impossible. I'm going to

list a couple different cryptids and you tell me which one is the most likely to exist. Bigfoot, Yeti, Locknest Monster, Chupacabra. Are you guys familiar with the recent Bigfoot debacle we just had? Yes. Billy thought that was real. Well, they, it was market is real for one episode. for one episode for one episode but then it was it was a bear skull right uh well no it was a it was a it was a gorilla skull model it was it was it was blerwitch marketing that was supposed to be in good fun and drive up hype around a video and to sell a t-shirt but unfortunately it exploded the internet in a way that we never intended and made a lot of people especially the bigfoot community really, really angry, which we feel really bad about.

But I love Bigfoot. I've loved Bigfoot since I was a little kid. And the audience was like, you guys got to make a Bigfoot episode. We just couldn't come up with the right way to do it. You know what I mean? I was never going to take somebody and put them in a guerrilla suit and throw them out of the woods to be like, hey, let's pretend to film Bigfoot. We created the what if scenario of why has no one ever found a skull. You know how many T-Rex skulls we found at this point?

Like 70 of them. But we haven't found a Bigfoot skull. So we're like, man, what if somebody found out? What would it look like? Unfortunately, the marketing that was my bad that I put out before the episode released ended up being way too convincing. And the internet picked it up in a way that just like people were writing articles in other countries and were like, oh, no, I felt so bad for my poor social media team

that was having the nightmare dealing with everything that was the fallout from the Bigfoot skull debacle. But, you know, you live, you learn. We probably won't be making another Bigfoot episode. But I think the most likely one to either exist now or to have existed would be Bigfoot. But in argument of the Lochness monster, there were actual animals that looked just like Nessi in prehistoric times, right? Prehistoric aquatic reptiles. There was pleasiosaurs.

There were plesiosaurs and their whole grouping of like long-necked brociosaur-looking reptiles with fin. Did one possibly survive till now? Not in the freezing cold waters of Loch Ness. That's for sure. I can guarantee you that much. Like reptiles can't live in cold water like that. Also, like 65 million years. That's probably another one.

Or that. If there was one, then there at some point had to be two of them in Loch Ness. Yeah. They're not going to live for that long. Gigantopithecus, though, did exist. It did, yeah. A very large primate kind of look, could be a Yeti, could be Bigfoot. you're saying no to Yeti and you're saying no to the Chupacabra then.

Well, no, so Yeti's like, you know, its own subspecies of bipedal primate, right? Like there's Bigfoot, there's skunk ape. Yeti's like the northern Nepal, like ice version, right? Maybe, I don't know, it would be pretty cool if it did. When it comes to Chupacabra, I've watched quite a few videos of things that have been found. And I think in a lot of instances, they're coyote. or other mammals that end up getting mange and are super malnourished

that just look really freaking crazy. I don't think that there's something out there that's sucking the blood out of goats and sheep. That's just not indicative of any animal species, you know? At least with something like a bigfoot or Sasquatch, it's like, okay, cool, a large one of the great apes that sticks to the really high regions of the mountains where it's really hard to get to.

That's super elusive, super in tune with its, environment and if somebody's coming, they're going to know it for miles away and it can get out of the way. So what's one animal that you really want to see that does exist that you haven't encountered yet? Well, definitely Komodo dragons. And that's just because I haven't been to Komoda yet. Finding them is not so much the difficult part. The like from a rare perspective, if I were to ever go out in the wild and be like, man, I'd love to dedicate some time to tracking and seeing one of these in the wild, it would be a wolverine, which is one of my, it's my favorite mammal of all time. And I have gotten the chance to work with a wolverine, one that was raised in captivity in

Alaska. But to see a wolverine in the wild is very, very rare. And it would take you weeks searching or just miraculously being in the right place at the right time to have an encounter, which can get very costly for production. So why is that your favorite mammal? Something about its go-getter attitude. They're vicious, yet they're small, there can drive bears and wolves off of their kill. They've been known to take down moose and caribou. I mean, this thing is like a ball of muscle claws and tooth and jaw structure power that's just, just unbelievable. I mean, this is the most voracious little creature on the face of the planet. And I just admire its sheer will to survive. Who do you think wins in a fight

a honey badger or Wolverine? Wolverine all day long. Good question, though. I mean, the Wolverine is the original Honey Badger. The internet found out about the Honey Badger about 10 years ago and everyone got obsessed with the Honey Badger, Tyron Matthew, was called the Honey Badger. But the Wolverine was always the bigger badass. It's the goat.

Yeah, it's the goat. Yeah. So, I mean, that's why there's an X-Men character named Wolverine, who's like the most badass X-Men character of all time that they just keep franchising and franchising. Like, Wolverines have non-retractable claws. And, you know, in all fairness,

a Wolverine up against a Honey Badger would probably be a pretty ridiculous match. I do think the Wolverine would win in the long run because they're just a little bulkier and their jaw structure is just probably a little bit stronger. So if you kind of zoom out on that and we're doing like an animal battle royale, it's got to be the hippo, right? The hippo defeats everything. For a land slash aquatic animal, I mean, I think the hippo is definitely up there. But I think the most lethal killing machine on the planet is probably a killer one. whale.

I was not to pick like the perfect predator because of the way that they can work as a pack, right? And their, their intelligence, their problem solving skills and their just sheer power. Like if you were to put a hippo in the ocean, killer whale would definitely destroy it. Yeah. Homefield advantage definitely matters in that matchup. But on land, you think like a hippo, what's the most formidable opponent to a hippo? I'd say polar bear.

I mean, like big predatory cats won't mess with a hippo. I think there are crocodiles, like large Nile crocodiles that have probably attempted to mess with a hippo. But then again, there becomes that like group mentality that if like a hippo sees his buddy getting in trouble with a crocodile, it's like, yeah, you're done, buddy. They all rush in and stomp and rip and yeah, I mean, hippos are ruthless. They really are. And I'd say probably rings as the most dangerous animal in all of Africa. Are you familiar with Gustav the crocodile? I am, yes.

So there's a lot of conjecture about whether or not Gustav is alive or dead at this point. Some people say that he's dead. But to my knowledge, it hasn't been verified. He's killed, what, like 600 people, something like that? Allegedly, are those deaths are attributed to this one guy? Do you think he's alive? That's the big one that they caught, right? yeah well they say thinking of the same one like that huge like 27 footer right yeah they said that

they caught them but i've i've seen conflicting reports on that um i just wonder how from a from a logistical standpoint how do people attribute the deaths to the same crocodile can it be like a look-alike i mean uh death by crocodile is death by crocodile like if you've seen crocodile some of the sizes that i've seen between salties and nile crocs these things are huge Like a human has no chance whatsoever if one of those crocodile species gets a hold of you. You know, one crocodile killing 600 people, very unlikely. I mean, in countries around the world, whether it's Australia or primarily a lot of backcountry areas of Africa specifically, the Nile crocodiles, and I don't know this is a fact, but I would say there are more Nile crocodiles taking out humans than there are saltwater crocodiles. Because where the saltwater crocodiles exist, yes, it is remote, it's outback, it's bush, it's whatever, but there are not as many people living in those areas close to those giant crocodilians.

And when they see a crocodile in that size, as a nuisance crock, it's caught and moved elsewhere. But in the, you know, the back bush of South Africa or Africa as a whole, right, far more people coming into close proximity with Nile crocodiles. So I'd say they are probably the most damaging. All right. So you mentioned save the horns, savethehorns.com. Check out the website right now. What are we doing? What are we doing to save the rhinos?

I want to save a rhino. Yeah. So we filmed a rather compelling episode earlier this year on black and white rhinos. So black rhinos are the most endangered rhino species in all of Africa. There's fewer than 5,000 of them left in the wild. Obviously horn poaching has been the big thing that's taken out rhinos of all types, specifically the blacks and the whites. And we are working with Carricka Game Reserve, Bear Grills,

and a group called Global Conservation Force, to bring awareness to the poaching that's being done and trying to get raised money to open up this expansive part of Carricka Game Reserve's land, a new plot of land that they've gotten the permits for to move in a breeding population of black rhinos. And what's unique about this spot specifically is it is, so far away from where the majority of poaching is happening, this could be the last stronghold for black rhinos

if poaching is not brought to an end in the next decade. And I can tell you right now, poaching is not going to be brought to an end in the next decade. So we're trying to create a reserve population, breeding population of black rhinos in the eastern Cape of South Africa. I love that. That sounds like a great plan. I'm all on board. I fully support that. Just an idea, I'm an ideas guy.

I'm not actually going to go out and execute any of these ideas. As a fundraiser, you should get bit by, like, what are some humans that are by, like Louis Suarez or Mike Tyson? You should get your ear bit off by Mike Tyson to raise money. Like, how much do you really care about these rhinos? I mean, if you can get Scarlett Johansson or Jessica Biel to possibly come and inflict a bite, I would much sooner sign up for that than I would Mike Tyson. But, hey, I go up against a champ any day. You got to think big on this one.

We've had Mike Tyson on our show before. Like, I can make a couple phone calls and see if he's interested. I mean, if you're real serious about this conservation thing, it seems like that's a no-brainer, right? Maybe I should let Mike Tyson punch me. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I would actually, I would rather get bit by a cobra than let Mike Tyson just take a full shot on me. Interestingly enough, we are in pre-production right now on a mantis shrimp episode.

Do you guys know what a mantis shrimp is? It has the most powerful punch. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to get punched by one of these. We're in the process of making this happen, filming it with a phantom camera in slow motion, you know, punching into my hand. I don't know what's going to happen, but we're going to work in some boxing elements too.

So I don't know, maybe Mike Tyson will want to come be a part of the mantis shrimp episode where it's like, what would you have to get punched by Mike Tyson or the mantis shrimp? See how hard Mike Tyson can punch my hand versus the mantis shrimp. The pressure for square inch might go to the mantis shrimp. Oh, yeah. Yeah. For sure, for sure, yeah. Tell Mike Tyson to hit me up.

Okay, we'll make that call for you. We'll let you go. Mike Tyson, you punch like a shrimp. Yeah, well, that, yeah, thank you for the compliment. I appreciate that. We'll let you go, but thank you very much for joining us. Caryote Peterson, you can check out, is it savethehorns.com? Yep.

And get involved with what he's doing, be on the lookout. I do, actually, I do have one last, last question for you. Yeah. At some point, you know, after you've established yourself as being a big name, you've got this wildly successful YouTube channel and you're about to get stung by something incredibly painful. Are you like, I'm too rich for this shit? Like, why am I doing this?

No, for me, it's definitely not about the money at all. It's about getting people excited about animals, man. Like, I remember being the eight-year-old kid that probably now watches me thinking, man, like, I just want to go on adventures. I want to learn about these cool things. And I got the best job in the world. I travel with my friends. All my friends work with me in an office.

You know, Wilderness Productions is 17 full-time employees, including myself, and we get to be big kids. You know, we travel the world and get up close with animals. So for us, it's not about the money as much as it is about just bringing people the next great vicarious experience they can live through our adventures. I love it. Well, if you check them out on YouTube, Brave Wilderness is a great channel. And if you're in New York, if you want to do like a city episode where you go check out some rats and stuff, let Billy know because Billy that Billy would, he would probably quit this job. and just follow you around full time. You wouldn't even have to pay him.

Dude, we've been wanting to do a Sewers of New York rats episode for quite some time. It's always in the background. Like, man, how do we go explore a section of the sewers and like set up traps to be like, like safe traps to be like, what is the biggest rat we can catch New York? I feel like that would go viral. There's some serious rats on the Lower East side, like big ass. Let's go catch them. Yeah.

And hopefully we'll find a sewer gator, one of the alleged sewer gators. that might be again if we could find what that is man you get the right thumbnail on the right title alligator caught in new york sewer viral video right there without me having to get bitter stung by anything if you if you uh if you just tell i won't be involved i'll you know maybe release an alligator and then you can find no we don't we don't stage it billy that's that's that's that goes against his code of that you're telling billy billy will be your local guide like when you go to the the jungles of the amazon you have a quichua uh individual walk you around showing you things. Billy is your Kichwa for New York City to show you all the best

rat spots. So if you ever come to the city, I'm serious. Like hit us up and we will send, we will loan Billy out to you maybe for the rest of his life and he will be your guy. You know what I have seen though. I have seen ferrets that not many people talk about this. They're probably just released pets, but there are there's some gigantic ferrets in Manhattan that have been eating like sewer rats. I love it. I let me find the video. Okay. Billy's going to track down the video. I'm sure it's real. Billy, we got to get you and I out looking for rats, bud. Let's get this in development for 2023. I'm telling you, catching huge rats in New York City sewers with you guys. Done deal.

I'm down. I love it. I'll get the waiters. Okay. Let's do it. All right. Thanks, coyote. Take care, man. Thank you so much. Thanks, guys. Have a great day. Yeah, appreciate you join us, man. Billy, if you really do know areas, what we would want to do is get like those safe, have a heart traps and like set them up in several different places. Sort of create like the ghost adventure getting into a section of sewer to explore, make it gross and grimy. And then ultimately like rats are interesting, dude. They're super charismatic and people are terrified of them. Plus you can work in the Ninja Turtle angle with Master Splinter.

Like there's so much cool stuff to be had there. And I don't know when the next Ninja Turtle's movie is coming out, but could try to get Nickelodeon and the Turtles franchise on board with, can we catch the real Ninja Turtles of New York? because I know in the ponds in Manhattan, there are tons of ruddered sliders, which are what the Ninja Turtles are based off of. And then we go into the sewer to catch master splinter. Dude, I'm telling you, it's a whole thing. Dude, that'd be sick.

I mean, and also in Chinatown, there's tons of exotic animals. We could be like, look, this is where they could, because I know where they sell crocodile meat in, alligator meat in Chinatown. So it would be like, where did the sewer gators come from here? Right. Yeah. Coy-Peterson was brought to you by our great friends over at Mind Bloom, Newstown. sponsor at macro-dosing, it's Mind Bloom, guys. The struggles that we face with our mental health

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That was a great interview. I'm excited about what he's got in store with Billy. We're going to jump back into a discussion that we just recorded where we dive deep into the internet. Enjoy. This is some real freaky stuff. It's a bad part of the internet, man. Some real, real internet sleutory that we're up to right now.

This is internet anthropology. When you guys hear me say I'm an internet anthropologist, I find groups of interesting people and we figure out what makes them tick. I'm current, the stuff you're allowed to put on YouTube is unbelievable. Yeah. I'm currently watching a, a live feeding of a, oh, it's Hegu. Bro, this, this is not, this is not okay. Oh, my God.

Yeah, those monitors are. Does a person have this in their home? Yes, they do. This should not be legal. I'm, I'm all for limits. government. No, this is... But someone needs to step in.

Then you're not a true libertarian, Bigtie. Wait, what is it? What is it, Biggie? It's a, what... It's a Tegu. It looks like a Camodo dragon. No, it's a Argentine black and white tegou. It's a probably six foot long lizard

that is just in this guy's hat. Oh my. Oh, I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight. This thing is, and he, so he puts it in his bathtub. Oh, my. And then he throws just a rat into the bathroom. And he says, standing there next to this lizard eating

the head off a rat just filming it well it's got to eat yeah big T sounds like you're in form of big tech censorship right now are you no no no not censorship just some sort of are you going to go take their lizards I think someone might need

to take their lizards I think we need to form oh I can't believe this on YouTube I can't believe this is on YouTube come take it's this dude yeah it's a rat being Avery look at this You can't take our guns, but you can take our lizards Well, people are going to use their guns

To protect their lizards from the big government The only person that can stop a bad guy with a lizard Is a good guy with the lizard Sounds like you just have to get more lizards Big T Billy Eichner's producer Weren't to fuck with me if you had a lizard You buy more mice to load you

Billy Eichner's producer won't fuck with me ever again Let it be known He got dunked on oh yeah no there's some fucked up stuff on youtube i guess if it's about animals you can put it on there i guess oh there's one very painful animal bite i've seen uh like some lionesses hunting african buffalo and they'll go right after the nuts from behind so they'll come up from behind and just bite the ball sack and then and then the animal just collapses and lays down they're go okay I'm done

I'm done yeah that would do it that would do it for me as well please kill me right now enough of the biting of the nuts this isn't biting but getting attacked by an elephant I've seen videos of that

where they put the tusk through you or they just fucking step on you you've seen a video of someone getting tossed by an elephant and bailed I've never even seen that I mean don't don't put just because I'm a girl I can watch videos of people dying

where did you find that I don't know YouTube or like discovery channel I don't know But, like, you've seen, where my brothers show me? I don't know, but, like, videos of people just getting ran through by elephants. I think I've just discovered the weirdest group of people on the internet. Who?

People who comment on videos of animals ripping, like, rats, limb from limb and snapping their neck, on the technique of the humans who were feeding them, such as Tim Jacobs, who commented on this video excellent format of the open area parenthesis bathroom silence is golden and that chase was awesome hat tipped sir that guy is going to go kill someone

great kill rooms yeah this guy so cereal kill it and then the guy who post the video said happy to earn your accolades Tj these people how is this allowed there's nothing wrong with taking videos of your animals

Right, but isn't a little bit weird to become a fan of those videos? Yes. To such a point where you comment on the technique? Yes. Hat tips, sir. He's doing like 2000s internet shit. Like, you have won the internet for the day, sir. This, oh, I've found.

I found a worse one. This is my favorite bit ever. This is from underscore so, underscore fucking underscore done, underscore. Wow. Awesome. kill. What a beautiful lizard. The look of pure joy on his face when he saw the rat was so damn

adorable. I get pinky rats and mice for my bearded dragons. Gizmo, Kilo, and Miko. These people should be in jail. This is why we have jail. No, there's nothing wrong with feeding bearded dragons

pinky mice. They're the baby mice that don't have hair. I agree there's nothing wrong with it. But on the other him like to become a fan of the genre well it's not like you're really into jazz music or what would happen if you're not watching a guy

play the piano and you're like wow that's like excellent excellent left hand technique on that what would happen if you had some large frogs that used to eat mice I honestly don't know and there's do you think that do you think anybody that's a big fan of these

feeding videos actually does not own any of the animals they're just a fan of the death of the snuff films I think most of them. It's like what they want to be. Actually, we could go deeper into this. There is a community on the internet. Oh, God.

That I have observed from afar who they, this is arousing to them. What? I've found them. It's awesome documentary. I love watching these beautiful beasts hunt down their prey. Keep it up. Uh, it was, I saw a vice article about it. This person, this person should be in prison.

He put the time stamp and then says that crunch is so satisfied. These people should be in prison. They're, they're like watching us for ASMR type stuff. Now I have to go to the timestamp. He said 719. I'll hold it up to the. Yeah. So.

Are we? No, on what? YouTube that's already housing this content? All right. All this is going to be. Oh, wait, I had, hang on. My bad. That was his neck, bro.

Did you just play that? Oh, no. Oh, that guy's got to go to jail. The guy that commented that has to go to prison. That was the satisfying neck snap? Yeah. I can't believe this is on YouTube. So wait, Billy, tell me more about this community that you've definitely infiltrated as an outsider and you're not an active part of.

No, I'm not. We can't gloss over that. Yeah, how do you get invited? How do you find yourself being alerted on these types of forums? Billy which one of these was you that commented I will not reveal my username Wait let me find it It was an article that ran that like

It's like You know those videos Of like the people making the huts And like pools With or like making Like the anaconda traps with the chicken Or like the eel traps sure so and you remember how they were found like a lot of them were fake yeah like there was these

youtube accounts that were building these pools yeah i've seen those yeah yeah and then there's some them where like there's an anaconda trap and there's a lot of these kind of groups that seem like they're from the same area that have been making a lot of these youtube videos of different things a guy that like sticks his hand into a hole in the ground and he pulls out a giant snake yeah or pulls out eels yeah so they there's like uh they there's like in that sort of theme there's like uh they just let a giant snake slither around people and like act like they're going to eat it and it's like a thing that's what they get off on yeah man people are so fucking weird guys i got to tell you the further i go down in this comment section the more

just absolutely need to be in prison read me some more i i just i clicked on this woman's profile and i've lost where i was hang on so hang on a second she said um it's probably a guy pretending to be a girl no this was like an old woman who had a real name and picture on her profile like i it's just one of those you could tell oh now i think it's uh it's different comments they do this with like the muckbanks oh it's called bore it's called vore where people like record themselves eating and then like people comment like my mouth is watering like I can't believe what I'm seeing like those people are sick no that's

way less insane because muck bongs you may or may not have gone through a mcbong face in high school where you just sit there and you're eating if you're alone it's like you're eating with someone wait what the fuck okay mad dog I'm glad we got to this part of the show

how lonely were you mad dog you just did they have like fake conversation They're like, how is your day? Yeah. Wait, it's called what? Muckbog, M-U-K-B-A-N-G. And it's like you sit there.

It's like a YouTube video. It was huge when we were in high school. And you would sit there and they would eat like a lot of food. And then they would talk about like whatever. They would almost have like a kind of podcast like conversation with themselves. And then you feel like you're not alone when you're eating. It's like the, it's like the Romans. Like you have to be entertained while you eat.

And this is just another form of that And so you would sit there I mean like how you eat How you watch TV when you eat sometimes It's like that but they're talking to if you're alone Okay Okay That's like not a weird thing

That's pretty weird So I found it It's called yeah So moving on VOR Yeah here it is So there's There's people

It's like what It's like getting eaten by a shark Or seeing other things getting eaten So I clicked on another video from this guy Against My Better Judgment Which I'm not going to watch I'm only going for the comments This time the lizard is eating a guinea pig

One person said Another piggy bites the dust Great video, thanks and much love This guy Hang on Rather amusing Wish I had a lizard like that My past guinea pig was in dire need

of some well-deserved punishment. What the fuck? These people should be incarcerated. I'm trying to put myself inside their minds. I don't know, I don't know how people get off on that. I really don't, I don't understand it. It's not necessarily, I've seen a lot of internet, but I don't understand. Those people aren't necessarily getting, like, sexually off on it.

It sounds like, no, there's, they're saying another little piggy bites the dust. another part of the internet does there's like a deep they're different videos these people are just sickos who like to see like a good like like fight this one was 16 hours ago I could watch this all day

the way it screams and is fighting for its life but slowly dying a painful death I love every part of this this isn't true wait no I swear read that one nice he's getting excited so yeah this is

this is some weird stuff Click on that guy's specific profile and go to his comments I want to see all this guy's comments I also want to know if any of these people like complain that they're like there wasn't enough screaming in this one I've seen I love the screams yeah But is there are there people who are like upset at the quality of the screams Like not or the quality of the crunch

Yeah it's like maybe feed your little piggy some milk every now and again Maybe up at the 2% get the bone strong I mean I can't believe I've I've stumbled a crud I don't like that I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight Let me What are there's other comments Um Sounds like a car alarm

Love it Crunch time With like eight emojis This makes great ASMR See that's what it is It's ASMR freaks I want to ASMR freaks Get off to ASMR

Let's try to nom nom I'm pretty sure that was a tasty piggy Okay so this is We're gonna do some live internet anthropology So this is like stuff I do So, find, click on one of the commenters' profiles. And then let's see what other stuff they're interested in. Yeah.

And notice a pattern. Well, I clicked on that one guy, but there was nothing on there. You can't see, like, comments, I don't think. Let me, let me find, send me some sick comments. Which is a damn shame because these people need to be vetted. Guinea pig is ASMR to me. Love their squeak. Okay, yeah, click on that guy's profile.

Yeah. The profile picture is an anime. Uh-huh. Ah, free crime. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. uh he he has four videos on his channel they're all like of some video game um i wish you could find like all their comments there should be a way it's home videos playlist channels about and under an activity tab you know let's go to reddit let's go to reddit and we can find

someone of the same ilk this is just billy's excuse to go to reddit yeah no i can't believe this is legal um animal feedings see if it's a subreddit. This little piggy. If you use the word piggy, that should be one of those things that like the NSA flags and emails, if you say like bomb an airplane in an email, if you use the word piggy in an email,

it should go someplace to Langley, Virginia, and there should be a death squad at your door. If Joe Biden puts all these people in jail, I'll vote for him in 2024. Okay. If Dark Brandon shows up, what? That's what they're saying now.

like when Joe Biden does anything good now like the Democrats have taken back the Brandon meme got it and they're calling them dark Brandon got it and then they do the thing like the Bitcoin guys had where their eyes would glow and they shoot lasers that's what they put that on Joe Biden's face

what do you think about student loans Big T I think that's a much better use of our money than shipping it to Ukraine okay yeah I was saying I saw Dave tweet about it last weekend. And I was saying that Dave, uh, had the right idea with the barstool fund where he would call people up and FaceTime them, be like, hey, we got you some money. Can you imagine if, if, if Dark Brandon did that, if he was like FaceTiming people, it was like, hey, $10,000

forgiven. And then they start crying and thanking him. Then he makes GoPrez go shirts for himself. Here's, uh, I mean, I think that would play on the internet. Here's one, uh, from Warrior your night gore squeak and twitching fun video to watch chomp chomp chomp let's click on his profile yeah nothing i prison jail i that's the only silly what are you finding okay so i'm currently on a page on the reddit subreddit for ball pythons uh and there's an argument about whether they should allow live feeding videos in the group um these people on soft, honestly. Like, I understand, yeah. So this is, this is, no, but this is like, oh, like this people

sound soft, but when is too far too far? So, I'm trying to find it. Can you imagine if you got like a really, really hot chick to do these videos of her feeding her animals, the freaks that would come out of the woodwork for that? I think there's stuff like that out there. By the way, I found that one account I was looking for earlier. It's Tony Bunyard. And she said, this has made my day after a bad afternoon thank you for an awesome video oh my god this is how she unwinds i'm gonna is this i'm gonna call a senator about this okay something has to be done if you look at if you look on your phone and click on their profile you can see their most

recent comments oh really they're three most recent comments can you go look up tony bunyard T-O-N-I B-U-N-Y-A-R-D So a lot of people enjoy the insect feeding videos Because they like seeing their lizards Chase crickets And since it's not as graphic And they get the same

From what I'm understanding the psychology It's like seeing like You know when you feed your dog You're like oh like look He's getting having fun Or like when you see like your dog playing That type of vibe But then it

Like then sort of switches into this. I love watching my giant lizard attacking mall rodents for their pleasure. Oh my God. This is weirder than any sex thing you could ever come up with. I think it is a sex thing. I think it's more sadistic. I think it more has to do sadism. But I also think that it's a combination. Like they get off to watching this sort of thing. Like sex and the real dark

death aspect is tied into the same feeling that they get. Interesting. I'm looking. Yeah, we got to do some deep dives into these commenters. I think we got to definitely. Here, just, Big T, if you just read some more comments,

I'm going to try to deep dive, try to get a Reddit, because there's got to be a subreddit for this. The lizard is making art. L-O-L-L. Love the blood splatter and crunches. Oh, my God. Keep it up, bro.

Nice vid, as always. At least that guy is, like, casual with it. He's a fan. He's a fan of the channel. Great content. Yeah. Um. Do you think people like this would be into, like, putting on a virtual reality headset

and finding themselves inside the cage? And they get to virtually get in. so there's so live feedings oh this is a very contentious topic I can't believe this is real I'm going to have to show it to you all to I'm not making this up dang thanks exclamation point

I wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for you I like violence oh my God come look at this comment Billy look at that I wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for you send that Send that into the group.

I'm going to track the guy. I want to see what that guy... Spider gaming, two words. I want to see what else that guy likes. I want to find... Then the guy who posted the video replied, Me too. It's more interesting.

It's just unreal. It's always a real treat when you find a new corner of the internet that you didn't know existed previously. This is why... This is internet anthropology. This is what I do all the time. I go find these. sickos and then I laugh at them so so but Billy you were also in a group of sex freaks what

spider gaming's only commented one more time and said dang bruh it crushed its skull that's it when was I you said that you said that you were an observer of this internet group from afar like we're observing these guys right now but you were in their group I read an article about V-O-R-E which then and viewed some of the content related to it, but I was like, holy fuck, these people are whack, just like we're doing right now with these other people. Okay. Well, I think Big T, I'm going to give you an assignment for nanodosing.

I can't. I can't look up any more of this. I want you to find more comments. I can't. This is from what? Just these, these people? Yeah. I want to know.

I mean, they're all, I've read you about all the ones that, you know. Oh, by the. way, I finally got the matte. So we're going to all get hopped up on Mate as a group. I don't know what that is, but no, we're not. It's just like a T. No, thank you. With a little extra kick.

A little bang, bang. Is it a psychedelic? No. Is it like Yurba Mote? Yeah, it's like Yorba Mote. But like more intense? Like straight from Argentina. It comes in a brick. It looks like a... Does it look like a brick of cocaine?

No, no, it looks like... It looks like a brick of... weed. Okay. And it's, but it's tea? Yeah, it's tea. And you drink it out of this gourd with like a special stride. It's gonna be cool. It's gonna be cool. I think you guys are gonna like it. It finally got in after a while. Am I gonna trip?

Some guy said, no, you can get like a little buzz. Some guy said chewing on its head like it was some damn bubble gum. And the person who posted it said, big facts must taste good. She was taste testing the blood. The guy who posts video responds to every single comment. He likes it all. It's crazy. And there's 687 of them. What a maniac This ended up being one of the most interesting

and informative episodes we've ever done Aren't you glad I show you guys These interesting parts of the internet I don't know bloody or not I still like the content The lizard said backpack question mark Oh no that's snack snack The rat starts out on the lizard's back Do you think that people have ever fallen in love

In these comment sections? Yeah and like met in real life what are those what are those meetups like where do you meet up with a person like that the zoo yeah so these live feeding videos are people are using the live feeding videos they're saying that wow so they're trying to justify like how could you allow a live feeding of animals getting ripped apart but not allowed guns on YouTube these people actually this might get to the forefront of politics and tech centerships dude we're the first

ones on it these people can vote oh my god okay overseer of yahway on a dwarf kaman feeding video says i love how the room gets quieter and quieter with each feeding uh wait i've also found um now the guy who posts the video is arguing with people this guy said what type of lizard is this i would like to feed it to my snakes he says you don't have snakes especially if you can't identify this lizard zilla would destroy your snakes don't have a snake big enough to kill her. This is insane, dude. I never thought I'd say this in my life.

That rabbit is a MFing G. He didn't run or beg or none of that. He went out like a boss. He looked straight at the crock's mouth and said, let's get this over with. I know what it is. RIP to the real bugs. Oh, my God.

Okay. Officially, that's enough internet for the day. somebody said this is illegal dude stop it he replied not where i'm at oh my god just billy help big tea and and find some internet history behind these commenters i am fascinated in them i want to get in contact with some of them and see if we can oh if you're listening right now and you like watching live feeding videos and you own reptiles please report yourself to the local police we'll hop in on The FBI. Contact me. I will keep you anonymous. I'm, uh, I'm sympathetic to animal keeping,

uh, because a lot of animals need to eat live feedings. Um, yeah, and maybe we'll have you on the show. Just to, just to talk to you. I want to get in contact with this guy posting this video because he is obviously a weirdo to have all these lizards and shit. And he, he must spend all day replying to these comments. It's all he does. How many views does he get? That one had 142,000. He has 12,000 subscribers. So, I mean, enough to keep doing it, I guess. Enough. Yeah, that's a big enough list to turn over to the government.

Yeah, I mean, these people, he has dozens and, how many videos does he have? Hundreds. He's all about that content game. He apparently also has turtles. Watching a snapping turtle eat a meal is. How many rat heads will turtle chop off is the comment of this. video. Let's see what the comments are on this. If you want to see it crazy

you look up common. This is the best and very educational. Look up common snapping turtle feeding video. That's what these are. All right. I'm going to cut this conversation off and we will dive deeper into these freaks. I want to know more about them. Billy and Big

T. You have an assignment. Find out more about them. And we'll do voicemails on Thursday's show. So record that on Wednesday. We'll take your voicemails. What number should they call Mad Dog, if they're looking to leave us a voicemail. 347-560401. Okay, perfect.

We want to hear from you guys. So hit us up, especially if you're one of these freaks. Yeah, especially if you're one of these freaks. We'd love to hear from you. All right, thank you guys for listening to macrodosing. We'll see you guys on Thursday. Love you guys. Thank you.