Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Mother Teresa

Episode Date: November 30, 2021

On today's episode of Macrodosing, Mother Teresa's "time is up," as the crew goes into trial to defend/prosecute the life of the Saint. Everything from cold needles to creating miracles, this show has it all. Also, you'll hear thoughts on state flags, rating the top and bottom ones out there. You won't want to miss it. Macrodosing is presented by DatChat.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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Texas is just like, it's not a real, it's not like, because I, you know, I went to school in Tennessee. That's the South. Like, like I've been to Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Florida, some parts of Florida. It feels like the South. Like, it don't feel like the South here, though. Like, I don't know. Appalachian has a different accent, too.

Absolutely like real like Western Virginia, West Virginia. I was even listening to Anus the other day and the way that they say their O's and their U's, like Nick and KV are totally. Listen into who? It's a new one told story. Yeah, it's a podcast we have and the two guys that are on it are both from Wheeling West Virginia. And I just kind of realized that their accent is also CMC is out for the season if you guys can catch them. I just saw that, yeah. You know what actually the most southern place in the world is the eastern shore of Virginia?

It does not get more south than that. What is, it is. What even, what even is a city there? It's so sudden. Well, Salisbury, Maryland is out there. But then you go down a little bit further. You got like Chinketye, the island out there. It's below the Mason Dixie line.

It is. I didn't, I didn't know that until my dudes from Virginia in college, they was like, no, they got some super racist out in Virginia. And I was like, where? It is, yeah, there are parts of it that are definitely super racist. It's, it's, but just like the culture out there is very southern. Very rural. Virginia fight? Didn't Virginia fight from the north or no? No, they were Southern.

Robert E. Lee. He was, the capital of the Confederacy was in Richmond. Fair, yeah, true. I don't know what I was thinking. Then he got bombed and got moved. Am I right about that? Yeah, I think it was getting moved to Atlanta, and that's when Sherman did his march.

But Maryland was north, though, right? Or am I still wrong? Believe so. Maryland was north. Yeah, okay. But I think they had a couple divisions that fought for the South. Because, yeah, like the state flag of Maryland, which if you've ever met anybody from the state of Maryland, it's probably like the first thing that you're probably wearing it at the time.

They probably have a grill in their mouth with the state of Maryland on it. It's a northern state, but I think one of the corners of it is like a civil war southern battle flag that's on the northern flag. You know what? So there was a girl, there's a guy from Tennessee in college and he put. the Tennessee State flag up and this random girl came into the house and was like oh my god I can't believe you have that flag up

like it turns out like a lot of people think that it's like a like a super like racist flag because it's like it's kind of aggressive flag the Tennessee flag are you or Tennessee the Tennessee state flag is three stars on it which yeah it kind of looks it looks like kind of mad like to an outsider so anyway this like Does it?

I think you're thinking of the wrong flag. No, I think of Mississippi? You might be thinking of Mississippi. No, no, it's not the Confederate flag. There's nothing to do.

So, like, these girls are taking Instagram photos or whatever and then online, they're like, I can't believe you post a picture

with that flag in the background. So when I'm not saying this, but people get that flag and they think that it's like totally like some sort of like because it's a pretty aggressive flag.

I don't get what you're, I think you just know some dumb people that saw that flag. I know, I know some super lids. I think you're making this up. I know. I don't even think that's like a liberal.

What is aggressive? They probably are. It's a circle with three stars in it. I'm confused as to why that would be viewed as an aggressive flag. That, it kind of does, like, if you look at the flag, it kind of does look like. I'm definitely looking at the flag. You're just dug in at this point. It's not going to.

It sounds like Billy is like the one that's really upset by it. No, I see that flag. I want to, I want to, I want to, what is aggressive? I'm like, listen, bro. I'm all for it. If you want to call out racism, let's fucking do it. What is? I'm looking at the flag.

I don't get it. It's three stars with a circle. It looks like a little happy face almost. To the untrained eye, some people like, whoa, like, is that some sort of, like, who has no idea who's never seen it before? It looks like they're like, we only fuck. You still have us in two other states. The other 47, we don't really care.

Exactly. But like, you keep saying it looks like almost and then you just stop talking about it. You give me an adjective. What about this flag looks aggressive, though? It's just It kind of almost looks It kind of almost looks communist Oh no

Now Billy's trying to Because the low amount of stars No I'm just saying It looks like a warlike flag Like you understand how some flags It does not It does not You lost me

You know what I'm saying I was with you I was willing You know what I'm just I maybe Pete There's some people out there Who look at like like

Wow that That one brings a little Extra heat to the table I don't think One of two things I know one person And it's you Billy is either mistaken

and they were looking at either the old Georgia flag or the old Mississippi flag or he's just totally like I don't know where this case I don't know I just think it's like a so how my mind works I looked at flag wow that's badass of a flag and then like that could be considered a little

I don't think that's true either I think the flag stinks I think it's sick no no no it's a solid flag no I don't think it's that great I don't even put it on my top it looks like a bad guy flag that's what I'm saying that would be a good look everybody give the top three flags state flags or flags in general

I go state flags yeah state flags in general none of the states are making it I've done this so I've actually sat down and thought about the best state flags I should blog it at some point Coley I might have number one

is the state of Virginia because the Virginia state flag has a boob and a murder on it there's There's a woman with her breast out standing on top of a dude. She just stabbed to death. That's pretty fucking cool. Like, what other state flag has a flag that's rated R?

And then number two, I like Arizona. I was going to say that. Arizona's got a great flag. I love Colorado. The Colorado state flag. That's your top three. All right. I'm going.

I'm going to go. I'm going to go. I'm going in no specific order. The New Mexico flag, that's the hometown. That's why I saw it was born. It's got a Z symbol on. that cool low sunflag. Also going to go with the Arizona flag,

Fire, Star, with some sun rays, that's cracking. Even though I think that does have, what was it? I think, I don't want to misrepresent it, but I think it's like Japanese and like sunraised. I think, Billy, look at this. I know it was like, there was like something of the, I think the kamikazis or something like that. I forget it's a long time so I've seen it.

But I think actually this is a lot of time. my number one. The Maryland. Oh, you're talking about the rising sun? That's yeah, the rising sun. Yeah, that looks like Arizona. No, no, no. Yes, it's Arizona. I went on to the next fact because I didn't, I couldn't remember. Yeah, the rising sun has negative connotation, but it still looks fire and it's like. And then, and then the Maryland one. That's just fire. Okay. So this is what I was trying to get to. The flag of Tennessee kind of reminds me of the North Korean flag. That's all I'm going to say. Okay. It is red, white and blue. And it does have a red star. I don't even know. Hold on. Korean flag

North Korean Oh I mean That's That's quite a If I can toss it I mean I can see that I can see that

All right You guys want to know What the most hilarious State flag is Look up the The West Virginia State flag I don't know what's going

It looks like It's clip art That's drawn by a 3 year old Just absolutely absurd That this is a state flag that's real that's real it does remind me of nick and kb like i think that's actually them on the state flag i would say the same about north dakota by far the word that is the worst flag in the world so just so for people listening the west virginia state flag looks like it was crafted in clip art um like

low graphic design and there's two dudes on it but the thing is they don't look like old timey dudes with a little spin, they kind of look like they're in a Thanksgiving picture book. This is like the verbal meme of like graphic design is my passion. Yeah.

But for state flag. Trash flag. Fun fact about the Ohio state flag, it's the only state flag that is not a rectangle. Yep. Hell yeah. And they will tell you that.

And they will. By the guys, I made a sketch while we're listening. Billy, that's good. That's not a mammoth, dude. That's an elephant. That's a mammoth. You just drew a standard elephant.

Are you kidding me? That is a... That's a base package elephant. There's a hair. There's a hair all over it. Yeah. There's hair. No, no, no.

You got to distinguish that it's woolly. Yeah. Are you just, are you just, are you just marketing your NFT shit now? The thing is after you know. Billy just wanted to draw. Yeah. I mean, other than you trying to draw a hair, which didn't go that well. What makes us more mammoth than elephant in your eyes?

What makes it more of a mammoth than an elephant, Billy? Billy. Is eyelash wire his eyelashes? You bill give my lashes? No, that's the hair

going over its eyes. That's all the strokes is I'm not coloring it in. Those are all hairs. No, I get what you were going for. I don't think it was executed all that well.

Look, it's not supposed to be supposed to be surreal. I'm in the NFT game now. It's just an elephant. But it's a good elephant. It's a totally as far as NFTs. I love the elephant, Billy. I will not partake in

Billy's NFT market. Fuck that elephant I like it I like it as far as elephants go What's the frog up to bro? Frog's doing well Back to the flags

Fun fact real quick about The Dakotas North and South Dakota They They were admitted to the union On November 2nd, 1889 And it was Benjamin Harrison That led him in And when he signed them into statehood or whatever

He shuffled the papers up right after he signed him so that nobody would ever know which state technically got admitted first because then they'd always hold that over the other one like oh north got admitted before the south so no one no one will ever know except him except him he went to his grave with that secret and only that secret from benjamin harrison he dropped it right before just to watch the world burn when he had to deal with it wait wasn't benjamin harrison he was the uh no he wasn't the confirmed Bachelor which one was that

which one's the guy that was you know had a great friend that lived in his shed for a while oh sounds like Van Buren I don't think it was Van Buren James Buchanan

Buchanan I knew it was a Bucan yeah James Buchanan Yo Alaska's flag is kind of fire though Alaska Yeah it's better than Hawaii's Oh, I mailed it in big time. So Alaska reminds me, I don't know if this might be a little bit before y'all's time, but you remember Top Gun, bro?

Yeah. It reminds me of Merlin's Helmet. You remember Merlin? Yep. It's Merlin's helmet. I used to love his helmet. Yeah. All right.

So the Hawaii State flag, I agree. It looks kind of mailed in, but that's not the real Hawaii State flag. No, I know. This is a state flag that was that was forced on the people of Hawaii. If you look up the original Hawaiian flag, it's actually, I would say it's top five. It has the, doesn't have the rainbow warrior on it, or am I mistaken? No, there's no rainbow warrior on it, but it's, oh, it's got, is it the one with, it's got the oars? Oh, that's top.

Yeah, that's top. Yo, that's a great flag. They need, they need to, they need to put that back. They want to. They need to. Most people that grow up in Hawaii want this to be their state flag. This new Hawaii flag is shit. Terrible.

Barbados just took out the queen has had his state. Really? Yeah, pretty sure it was Barbados. Yeah, I did. Yep. Yeah. You know what I love to do

is I love to post the Texas state flag? No, excuse me. I love to post the Chilean flag and then label it as being the Texas state flag and then watch everybody from Texas get real mad at me. It's a lot of fun. Highly recommend doing that. Just in the emoji.

I mean people in Texas they love having you know they take their flag very seriously they put it on everything every every single like if you get a bottle of water in Texas it's going to have like a Texas flag on it saying this bottle of water was made for the people of Texas if you go to Dairy Queen they have like a Texas flag

that's incorporated into their logo because this is Dairy Queen in Texas I love that actually Yeah? Yeah Would you like that for every state though? I feel like I'd like it for my state yeah Yeah I just feel like, you know, there are very few things that unite us as a country. And if we're all drinking the same can of bud light beer, I think that's a good thing.

I don't think you need to especially label it for people of Texas. Maybe, maybe I'm wrong. Can I make a pitch for New Jersey? Yeah. New Jersey, I mean, they didn't go basic bitch. They went beige, fire color, and I like their logo. It does look a little fire. There's a horse in it.

Yeah, the horse is sick. it looks like it's a state of horse girls yeah yeah so I'm looking at I'm looking at all these flags dog and it's very apparent what's happened here they didn't involve any artists like there's like one or two flags the original Hawaiian flag

maybe the New Mexico flag definitely the the Maryland flag but other than that and maybe the Alaskan flag there was no artists involved in this shit like it was just like dudes sitting around like, you know, what can we, what is representative that we think is going on

in this state? And they just literally jam-packed so much information into these flags. Actually, you know what? You know what I actually think is the worst state flag? Massachusetts. Wait, let me Google that one. That was terrible. Not what I was going to say. That's pretty, it's pretty bad too, actually, yeah. Yeah, it's terrible. It looks like a state trooper flag. Oh, yeah. That's bad. What's what the dude and the sword with the, with the, I'm sure there's a story behind it. All right. So this, if you want to talk about one that was very clearly not designed by anybody that's ever done art before. In fact, it was probably just

designed at the very last minute because they forgot that they had a flag due that morning. Look up the state of Washington flag. Yeah. Yeah. It's like a weird color green and then just a circle with a grainy ass picture of George Washington. The same one that's on the $1 bill, by the way. It's not even like an original picture. It's just that prints and then it says the seal of the state of Washington 1889 around it. There's absolutely no creativity

brought to this flag. Dog shit. Oh my God. How about Nevada? Nevada just missed the memo on centering their logo. Like every logo is centered and Nevada, their logo is just top left corner. I don't hate that.

The New York State flag is pretty. The Nevada State flag, it looks like there's something missing in it. I don't mind the logo in the top left, but it feels like there should be something in the center or down to the right. Makes you feel empty. North Carolina is so bland, too. Like, I don't respect state flags that just basically copy the American flag with a twist. You know, say red, white, and blue and stars. Like, we just need something totally different.

Like, show us, like, some culture that is just like. My only counter to that is, and it's not a state, but it's a territory. Puerto Rico's flag is very strong. Let me see that Puerto Harry doesn't watch enough baseball if he has to look up in the Puerto Rican you like

You ever see the Puerto Rican Day parade I'm from the West Coast man Oh true true No it's not strong it's the same shit It's the same shit It's another rendition of the American flag Which I would assume And I don't even know Puerto Rican history like that

But I would assume That this was after USI occupation i probably that would be a fair assumption but i also would it surprise you if we stole it from them no you and else is a pretty cool flag oh there there's was like a light till blue originally which i like better i like that light till better the whiskey rebellion flags pretty chill oh yeah yeah put that up in like a frat house and just be like yeah dude like what's that flag mean oh it just means we like the booze yeah the don't tread on me don't tread on me flag the gadsden flag no no i'm talking about the whiskey i know but i'm just saying like

that's another one that i feel like has gotten like co-opted somewhere along the way yeah because it was i think originally a pretty sick flag like a snake that's just yeah you can't put that up anymore yeah just what is that what is the history of that i see it everywhere during like it was proud boy marches and shit like that what is the history it's a snake cut up into 13 pieces i think that's the join or die that's the join or die flag that was a i want to say Patrick henry drawing or the original prop propagandist so it just means like big government i mean now it means like big government but back in the day meant like the like british don't step on the diamond back rattle stake like you can't oppress us or we will bite you with our venom well i also like the california flag

yeah california we say i like south carolina is very like calming yeah i like that too i like Wyoming. I believe Wyoming's the only flag that has a penis on it. It's a Buffalo standing upright. You can see. Just like the Bill's logo is the only one in the NFL that's got a dick. Hopefully the whiskey rebellion flag has been.

Also, PFT, I didn't blog flags. I tiered state quarters. State quarters. Okay. Got it. Oh, this reminds me. It's wide open. My bad. So this reminds me, though. So while we're on the topic of copy-pasting

flag ideas. There was a tweet they came across and it was this dude who was like super enamored or like just giving all kinds of props to this YouTuber named Mr. Beast I think his name is. Oh yeah. And he recreated squid games in real life except

people don't die and shit. Yeah. And so he was like super enamored with how much views it got. And I just found that fucking hilarious. What does y'all's take on that? Well, I haven't seen the recreation yet, but I saw it's like 20 minutes you should I mean that's pretty cool the thing is the squid game hype

has kind of died down so like if you's able to do it a lot quicker which is impossible because you need to build the whole set I think it would have gotten a little gotten a little more widespread sometimes I don't know the thing you know I guess as as a hundred million views and like yeah it has more of my age than the show really yeah well the show is a pretty widespread I don't know I'll tell you what's more accessible than Netflix, Billy. YouTube. Sometimes I don't know if the stuff I know is just internet knowledge and I spend too much time on the internet or it's like everyone knows.

No, it's the first for sure. It happens to all of us here. A thousand percent. Okay. So wait, this guy, Mr. Beast, he actually, he made squid games. He got more views than the original. But people are mad at him because he's bragging about how this is indicative of the new creator economy and how the game has changed and it's easier to and better

to do things like he's doing for cheaper and quicker and showing that that's better than the original squid games which is that's kind of bullshit because obviously yes mr beast stuff would not exist without the original squid games right he's just showing not only game the system a little but yes and not only that um he missed the entire point of squid games by recreating squid squit games like and that's the swiss of irony of this whole shit but even more so is like views on youtube i don't think are necessarily uh core or as equal to views on netflix right because like if you're watching entire shows versus like a uh a click baity uh video for like 20 minutes I don't think you can captivate an audience as well.

I'm not saying this dude obviously has a huge following, but I just don't think it's equatable. One, two, a lot of YouTube's content is either reactionary or it's not like really original content. I'm not going to, sure there's YouTube creators that there are, but the majority of it is just like reactionary and people fall in love with the character of reacting. And so I don't know, I just found it hilariously ironic

that he recreated it. and then didn't see the irony in it. But I just want to get y'all's take on it. You know what? Somebody should do a, like a famous person reacts to watching Mr. Beast's Squid Game Recreation and then get more views on that than Mr. Beast got. And then you can dunk on Mr. Beast and be like,

you know, check this out. My grandma watched your bullshit and her video got like 50 million views so suck my dick. It reminds me of this. You remember the most liked tweet on Twitter was Ellen's selfie at the at some award show some dude like years later with like 50 followers just says ratio above equal teaser the ratio and it got like hundreds of thousands of likes that how the hell did that thing become the most like like who the hell even watch those shows that was back

in uh it was a long time ago billy where people still liked watching celebrities on tv where alan was still a celebrity well some people and whoa whoa Whoa, whoa, whoa. Ellen is still never, you, bro. No, I said some people enjoyed watching the Oscars. No, I was talking to Colette. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know you're, you're so anti-wokism, man.

You don't like the Oscars, bro. It's so fucking woke. What? Like, correct. Anyway, you nailed it. I think that Twitter was still a relatively new enough thing where people were like, oh, my God, all these celebrities just took a picture and put it on Twitter. That's cool.

And now that's like the least cool thing ever to do. What was the strangest YouTube Rabbit Hole that you've gone down And found like the weirdest creator on YouTube I mean I thought Salad fingers Salad fingers Comfortably salad I've never seen anything weird

Than that salad fingers You never saw that exactly what you're talking about The creepy That was early viral Like oh 2007 This isn't a creator But I used to be really obsessed with conjoint twins.

That's, that is, that is, I actually went down that rabbit hole. Yeah. I was, I was thinking more of like, I should have prefaced the question better, but I once found this dude who trained minks how to hunt. And he has all these videos. The algorithm fed you very easily. He has all these videos of him with these minks. He rescued from fur farms.

And he's taught them to hunt rats to like take out like infestations. So you can hire this guy. just shows up to your farm and he releases specially trained minks into your barn. He takes videos. I love how polite Billy's gotten because old Billy would have just been like, hey, you guys, I want to talk to you about these cool minks that I found that can hunt. And now he's like, hey, what's, what's something cool that you guys have seen online? It's very, you're getting manners, Billy.

I love it. Shout out Joseph Carter, the mink man. Minks first the rat thunder dome. Jesus. I've watched a lot of those interrogation videos. I find those fascinating to see how police are able to manipulate people that they bring in for interrogations and how they kind of get their foot in the door and how I used to think that it was just impossible to ever confess to something that you didn't actually do, like a murder or something like that.

Imagine if you didn't murder somebody, you got arrested, and then you ended up confessing to that murder and signing your name on a piece of paper saying that you did it. I used to always think that that was just completely impossible. Like, nobody would ever do that. I know that they make TV shows about it and stuff. But I thought that there was absolutely 0% chance that a real life person who's, you know, like an average IQ would ever allow themselves to do that. Turns out that it happens a lot. It actually does because they keep you sleep deprived and they just work on you and work on you and work on you.

And they're able to make you think that that's the only way that you're ever going to be able to leave that room. Do you think cops should be able to lie in interrogations? Fuck, no. Yeah, I kind of agree. I, fuck, no. I don't know. I don't know, because there are probably certain times that they have to be able to lie in order to give me an instance. Like there are, if you watch Making a Murderer, did you ever watch that show on Netflix?

And they have the kid in there and they're like, listen, we know you did it. We have like all the evidence. We know you did it. Just tell us. And then we'll like make it lighter on you. and then he's still in prison all these years later. Like, well, that's the, I think that's it. That's the issue of it.

The issue is not everybody plays with the same deck of cards. And so to somebody who's very, you know, witty or, you know, intellectually equipped to understand what they're trying to do, they can easily combat it without the fear or even, you know, deal with the fear that they have. But when you're dealing with somebody who has a lower intelligence and they're scared, they're poor, They don't know what's going on. You can easily manipulate people into these false accusations. So I don't see any benefit in a cop lying and saying we do have like this is reverse psychology bullshit.

Like do your investigation. If you, if he gets off, that's your fault. Yeah, I just is what it is. I always know that if you're being interrogated for something, it's because they don't have enough information to arrest you for already. And they're going to say and do whatever it takes to make you give them that information. But yeah, it's crazy to see people like confessing to rapes and murders that they like provably were not there for that like they were out of state when it happened and they'll still

confess to being the person that did it because they've been interrogated for so long oh i just got done by the way watching the uh american crime story on the clinton's and monica loewinsky highly recommended it's awesome it's really good it's mostly about like linda tripp and how she was manipulating monica into telling her all these things and then how clinton was acting towards Monica and driving her crazy. It's a really, really good series. I think it's on FX. It's, I thought it was HBO.

No, I think I'm pretty sure it's on that. Oh, it is FX. Yeah. Isn't it where Beanie Feldstein is Monica? Yeah, I want to watch that. And they, uh, the FBI traps Monica in a hotel room. And they just keep her there for like 12 hours, won't let her call her lawyer. And the FBI really fucked that up.

Like, they got lucky that they didn't get charges pressed against them the way that they were treating Monica at the time. And you want to talk about somebody that's made a complete. shift. Right now, I think most people are pro Monica. Back then, she was the butt of every joke. Like, she was, it was tough. It was tough being Monica Lewinsky for a real long time. I think it's, I think it still is, man. I mean, think about it. Your people know you because you were fallacious with the president. Like, that's, that's a while, like, it's jock, like, a funny and shit, but like, imagine, like,

that's your sister or your mother, your cousin. You don't know her. And, like, all she's known for is that that's that's hard that's a hard pill to swallow I feel like now though like how many years ago was that 25 1990 it happened in like 96 I think that the deposition stuff was in like 98 yeah I feel like happened in 96 I mean I wasn't alive when all of that happened but I've I mean like I've grown up being on Monica's side yeah she does on Twitter she gets retweets and likes well yeah because she'll always be like name one thing that name one thing that you remember about the 90s and she'll just like quote tweet it with a winking emoji where she'll be like what's one piece of career advice that you wish you had it was don't

take an internship at the white house yeah yeah no she i think she's in a better place right now but at the time it was like how old was she 20 like our age man dude that's nuts that's nuts imagine if hillary had become president and she had some like young intern dude just eating her out in the Oval Office It would be nowhere near the shitstorm it was I guarantee It would be funny It would fall more on Hillary

Than it ever fell on Bill for sure That's facts Probably yeah like she gets caught And then Bill like divorces her Oh my God, I can't believe you do this I don't get Why didn't people blame Bill more Because he was present and he was like charismatic

I think Most powerful white man in the world Well Never. get blamed i think there were yeah there were a couple reasons for it at the time one the republicans overplayed their hand when they went at him with all this stuff because they were doing an investigation about the whitewater thing which was a really boring incident to get into involving real estate and stuff but they were trying to get him for that and because they knew that he had made

some shady deals in the past and so they were trying to do whatever they could to prosecute him then they ended up going towards his personal life which yeah he's a complete total scumbag with a lot of the stuff that he was doing. But they dragged out and made him so embarrassed by it that public opinions swung dramatically in favor of Bill Clinton when all this was happening because the only thing that they had him on was lying about getting a blowjob

so that his wife didn't find out. And I think most people in America were like, this probably, this feels like it's overkill trying to embarrass him for this affair that he was having. It's very weird. I think it would have played out a little bit differently if it happened today. Right.

But, yeah, I think it was kind of just like a pendulum swinging reaction. And also the people that were in Congress that were going after him, it turns out that like all of them had affairs too. Like they, yeah. And so Newt Gingrich had affairs. The person who replaced Newt Gingrich in the House of Representatives had to retire after like a day and a half, I think, because his own affairs were going to come out. So there was a lot of hypocrisy going around because it's Washington.

That's what happens. but it was also a different time and place whereas now if it happened I think most people would be like yeah Bill Clinton is an absolute creep for praying on a 22 year old you know oh I didn't know she was 22

something like that yeah she was like right out of college you know speaking of controversy to Clinton's everything do we want to call in to the Jelaine Maxwell trial real quick yes just see how it goes thank you for the person who put the number in the dad chat for us

because we didn't know that federal trials couldn't be televised. Yeah, so Jelaine Maxwell is going on trial today. She's been in jail for, I don't know what, the last two years, last year and a half. And yeah, it's one of those trials where you don't, no one really knows how deep it's going to get. But everybody suspects that there's some weird shit going on behind the scenes there. We should do an Epstein Maxwell episode. We've been holding off just because we want to see how this goes. But just we're stating facts.

right now, the prosecutor on the trial is Quomi's quote, uh, one's like, Quomi, Cuomo, what's his name? The top, super tall dude who is in charge of the Russian investigation. Comy. Comey. Comey's daughter. Okay. Is a prosecutor in the trial. And I don't know. Comey's such an emo guy. Yeah. He's become like a real deep in his, he's been down bad for the last four years i haven't really heard from him in a while he's just always he pops up occasionally to post a picture of him like standing out in the middle of a sunflower seed looking at the sky he's like sometimes it's important to remember your perspective it's like damn dude down bad big time i needed i needed that i needed that yeah thank you thank you combe um so yeah billy call into it all right

the jane actually the number so our listeners now so oh no what when when you're When you say call in, what is this doing? I don't know. Are they taking requests? Request a song? No, you can listen in. You can listen to the audio. So it's like a podcast version of a trial.

Don't call in. Don't call in. I want to see what's going on. What if the number's fake? Call her number nine gets a free t-shirt. So the number is 844-291-6362 and the access code is 29218-8-22. This is public domain.

78%. Sure, it's going to be busy. Are you sure about that? Well, if you think they just let everyone in. Yeah, it's like an open line. So it's the way that you can. Oh, okay. Well, shit.

All right. Cool. Let's see what they're talking about. Imagine if we just come in to the thing and it's just like, would you like to speak, Mudge Lane? Macrodocin, thank you for calling this, Judge. People would listen to the fuck out of this episode. That'd be fired.

Are you calling? Yeah. Thank you for all. For English, please press one now. Like a billion lowers the mic instead of picks up his phone. This call may be recorded for quality of security. I'll actually, I put on my computer. Did you?

Associate. Hello. Hello. Thank you so much for calling the Toyota Takata recall team. My name is DeGlory, and I'll be more than happy. Who is fish you today? Wait. You're such a, you're such a pussy.

You didn't answer? What are you watching on your computer? Are you watching the main runner? Billy's calling it. Why are you? Wait, that was a Toyota That was a Toyota rebate center number.

I got that number off. Is it Toyotathon at least? It's December to remember. Toyota thons coming up. You should have just talked about this. This isn't the trial? Wait, no. This is really indicative of Billy's

No, guys, I, like, somebody posted the phone number on our group that chat. No, that's not the number I used. This is, now it's public domain. No, guys, why didn't you use that number? I did. I used the number from justice.com. No, use the number from the dad chat. No, this is from the, you click on that link and find the number.

Go to, it's right halfway through. This is actually really weird. That's the actual number, guys. No, it's not. Go to April 20th, 2021 update. Is, in April. It was a long time ago. Yeah, but that's the only number posted.

No, there's a recent one. There's other phone numbers. October 20th, 844-721-7-2-337. Call that one. I'm more confused as to how the Toyota Rebate Center was using the same phone number as the United States Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York. Listen, how deep does this rabbit hole go? We're asking the wrong questions here.

Maybe Toyotathon has something to do with it. Billy, call the other number. Those deals are surprisingly low. I always knew there was something up It's like that's that's that's something I've always I never understood dog It's just car Places

Car lots in general like are people buying cars like that dog Like how are they been to Like do people like buying cars like that People just show up They just walk onto a lot They see a tent People see people see Balloons and they walk onto a car lot

That's how it works I used to sell used cars And whenever we we ran out of balloons, we'd be like, fuck, we better get our balloons talked back up because people won't walk in anymore. People are dumb. Did you see a balloon?

They're like, yeah, that's where I need to be right now. Because everybody I know, like, has a car for like 10 years, you know, give or take, you know, three or five here. But it's like, there's a lot of cars on car lots, though. Who's buying these cars? That's why they have so many sales because they're trying to move merchandise before the next year's come out. That's unfortunate, man

Toyota's like the new Wayfair scandal There's a girl named Corolla in the trunk of this one $16,000 Oh, I think we're in I'm playing Well now he has the access code from April too Billy's over there like Tom Cruise and Mission Impossible

On his laptop Trying to hack into a mainframe You got this person I'm literally using the one from October 20th. Yeah, well, there was another update. I don't know why beyond the live feeds within the courthouse, the trial will not be further broadcast, nor will there be any telephone dial into the proceedings. November 29th, 2021.

Literally today. The top of the page. That's bullshit. All right, so that was our check-in on the Jolene Maxwell trial. I think, you know, the content really speaks for itself. Well, the thing is they're not allowing any coverage. Yes, I'm aware of that. Media-wise.

Yeah. And. I wonder why. What are they trying to hide? You know what? They didn't want football on the case. I was so close to crack the case. Why can't you televise?

federal trials what's the rule behind that is it just like a rule yeah I understand that rule but what's like I think it's supposed to be like there's a there's a decorum about federal courts that like they don't want it turning into a media circus I agree a thousand percent

yeah if it's a federal trial you don't want to have like I don't think we should televise any trials no any because it just it just you people what I've noticed about the cameras like I've been in front of the camera for the better part of my life, right, because of football.

People that aren't used to be in front of cameras, they change. They just, their demeanor changes, their responses changes. Everything changes. And when you know you're being filmed, like, you're just, it's just a different animal. And something with like a levity, that much levity to it, there's just no point. There's no, there's no plus. The media coverage of it would be wild, speculations. That was one thing I learned about researching the Michael Jackson allegations.

because he's innocent was that the media spin cycle is it was the monster behind that whole machine there was a 24 there was a news channel I forget which one it was but there was a news channel that we had 24 hour coverage of a Michael Jackson case and the lawyers go to sleep when they're sleeping what the fuck are you talking about you know what I'm saying like it's insane it's insanity there's just no there's no plus side in my opinion it's like the justice system and our politics in general have become severely affected by the 24-hour news cycle to a point where it just sucks now everything everything sucks about the news right big tea the fake news should we have a trial i think we should have a trial good segue billy what a fucking segue great segue i think i give credit

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A $100 massager purchase So Mother Teresa She is a saint She's literally a saint Canaanized Catholic Church Is that that makes her a saint right? Yeah she's canonized or officially a saint Yep

Mother Teresa is officially a saint She's been canonized by the Catholic Church She ran an orphanage And tuberculosis clinic in India for what like 50 years very accomplished

in her missionary work as well as helping out the poor especially in the city of Calcutta was apparently committed

two miracles by allegedly helping two individuals talk about like it's grand theft auto committed she she she's got two miracles under her belt

the Russian titles like the Russian titles two time widower two time widower that's part of becoming a Catholic if you don't know becoming a Catholic saint you have to have

two miracles accredited to your name now they they definitely look for miracles if you're somebody like Mother Teresa they were like give me an excuse to make her a saint yeah like anything that happened the moment she died whoever I think was Pope Benedict when she died was dying to get her sainhood.

Yeah, because if you're the Pope, that's something that you can actually like hang your hat on as an accomplice. Yeah. Being like, I was the guy that got this pushed through. Yeah, now Pope Benedict's like in a castle. You were just like putting out the word like anybody. Just tell me if you think that you saw Mother Teresa in your toilet, let me know. It's like the thing we just looked up with the Jelaine trial.

It's like if you think you're a victim of Jelaine Maxwell, Colin, if you think you're a miracle worker from Mother Teresa. No, so if you were being candidized one day, what do you think two things could be miracles attributed to you? Big T. When you become St. T. Have I done any miracles? I mean, if you had died like two months ago,

the Braves winning World Series would be right up there. He doesn't have to die to commit a miracle. Wait, you can get miracles. Yeah, you can get miracles in real life. Yeah, yeah, no. All right. So, so. Oh, she had, she had, she had, she had,

Five miracles, bro. Yeah. Like how Jesus made blind people see. That's a miracle. Miracles and beatification. Beattify. Beatification. Okay.

Beatification. Anyway, so one of them was that there was a woman with a tumor who prayed to Mother Teresa and claimed that the tumor disappeared because of her prayer to Mother Teresa and Mother Teresa blessing her. And then the second was a man with a brain tumor who also prayed to Mother Teresa and Mother Teresa eradicated the tumor. There was the husband of one of those people, the tumor person. We'll get that. We'll get that in the trial.

According to the woman, a beam of light emanated from the picture of Mother Teresa and her cancerous tumor was cured. Anyway. Okay. So she's also a Nobel Prize winner. Noble Peace Prize winner. I as well am a noble prize winner. Nobel. There's Nobel, yeah.

Nobel. That's fine. You know what? Don't make fun of Billy for mispronouncing words like that because it shows you that he learned the words by reading them. Yes. Not by hearing other people say them. So I don't hang out with people who talk about Nobel priest prize.

But he does read it. know. He does reading, which is more important. Anyway, um, yeah, so, uh,

she refused the conventional ceremonial banquet for the Nobel priest prize. No, Nobel asking that it's $192,000 cost be given to the poor in India. She raised millions of dollars for. So she gave away all that money that she never had. Right. Okay. Got.

Um, so she did tons of work. And, So while we give, I mean, a little background, she was born in Albania. She went to seek a life of religion in Ireland and then subsequently found herself in India where she helped the poor and established multiple clinics in order to help clinically ill people. Yeah, I think that she's probably the most famous nun that I grew up knowing about. I can't name a more famous nun besides Whoopi Goldberg and Sister Act than Mother Teresa. she was anytime you needed somebody like a reference on the tonight show or good morning America

or anything like that to talk about somebody who was really good like a perfect person you'd be like well there's no mother teresa you know that was that was always drilled into you growing up at least for me it was just through all the media so i just always assumed that she was a wonderful person she went over to india to set up this missionary uh to do her missionary work under the service of the Catholic Church. So it's interesting because it does call into question. You know, nobody really does anything just to be a good person. I don't think that there's always like some underlying motivation, right?

So that's what we're going to get into a little bit today. Shall we start the trial? Yeah, let's put her, let's put this bitch on trial. I have no dog. I have no, I have no dog in this fight, St. Teresa, St. mother. I have no dog in this fight. I'm going to look at myself as being impartial, like, on the jury.

Are you the judge and jury? Let's just make you the judge. Actually, you're the judge. Okay. And, uh, I'll be prosecutor. Prosecutor. I'll be defense. Avery. Big T wants to prosecute, too. Avery and Mad Dogg is woe in the jury.

Coley, do you want to hop on the defense with me? For sure or not. I'm not, I'm not, I'm defending for sport, not out of, real belief well this was this was your idea to do and you immediately said i want to defend her yeah well i knew that you guys i was volunteering you couldn't have jumped on it more quickly but you guys were coming for you what you wanted her head after because she was she's shit what do you mean wait wait wait order yeah i can order in my courtroom if you need me

i grew up going to catholic school and was a big fan you want to be do you want to be another jury with avery i can be that or the bailiffs i mean you don't want to not coolly on your jersey or on your jury because he's like obviously going to convict like you he's going to be the bailiff mad dog you i'll hear it out i'll hear it out you be on the defense yeah i know a lot about her yeah so all right i'm going back through the text messages here because this is this is how it started topic for that was from billy pft says mother teresa because we've discussed it before it was not my idea it was brought up earlier um coley says Mother Teresa's time is up

Billy says should we have a trial of Mother Teresa? I can be the defense I say sure Mad Dog says I feel like Big T should also defend Y'all know what the hell that means Yeah and I said if Big T wants to defend he can Let's see where he falls naturally

And then Big T says I don't know who this is I'll look into it and see I knew the name Oh yeah this bitch is a fraud I knew the name I didn't know anything about her Then I did some cursory research and found out, yeah, she's, she's voted for sure. I saw the research before and I was just saying like, are you the defense because no one else is going to want to.

I think there are a lot of people that would probably defend Mother Teresa. Like I said, she is synonymous with being a wonderful human being. Whenever you hear somebody talk about Mother Teresa, you automatically think of somebody who's selfless who gives their life for others. it's almost universally a good thing to be called a mother teresa but that might change after today all right let's get this trial started who starts with the argument i think prosecution starts with your opening statement right judge i appreciate you allowing me in your courtroom today uh jury uh people of the court um the people do not believe that mother teresa was as good as marketed on several different accounts with intent and with no intentions.

We, the people believe that she may have had good intentions at times, but also we find her hypocrisy, her self-admitted hypocrisy admissible as malintent. will explain further but as of right now we want to as the defense wants to exonerate her of these charges we want to label this woman as a piece of shit

rather than a saint okay I love how Aryan introduced it by saying you know what it's not me making this argument it's some other Teresa that made the argument about herself that's powerful that's very powerful stuff I put on my lawyer glasses today as well like I don't know if that was

good move that was really good the defense would like you don't have to talk like a lawyer if you don't want to by the way we have some fun yeah it's okay my mistake reset order come on let's do trial fucking fucking dad was trying to

Jesus you have to speak like a lawyer I accept bribes by the way okay um the defense would like to define what good is advertised means is that a request this is your opening statement this is your open this is your opening

I thought we're deciding what we're trying her for. No, this is overing statement. Okay, so wait, Billy wants me to say what good as advertised means. Yeah. It means is Mother Teresa all she's cracked up to be? Is she worthy of her sainthood? Or was she just like a halfway decent broad sometimes?

Yeah, is she, is she overrated? Was she a net benefit? That's really what we're talking about. I think that's, I think that is worthy of St. I think, I think Billy you nailed it. Net benefit? Was, yes. Was her net benefit?

positive or negative. I would, I would, I would, I would like that. That's actually, no, actually, take that back because then you, I would, I would, I would argue her net benefit was positive. But, but her people should stick in dirty needles in my distance. Wait, her dad. God damn it, Big T. We're trying to have a trial here. Eric, when I say, you're talking yourself out of your own charges right now. You're going to go. No, no, no. Yeah. I was, I was, I was with net benefit until I thought about it for a second because net benefit on its surface sounds good. But net benefit gives Creed and. to her overall impact. And like, it's like, it's what preachers sell. They sell hope, right? Like Joe Olstein, his net benefit is probably good, right? But his actual impact is negative.

No, I disagree with that too. That's all the same. Couldn't care less. We'll try him in a different day. Yeah, what we could definitely try having a different day. But I got him locked up in the back. We'll bring him out in a couple months. Got you.

Uh, so yeah, Billy, proceed, unless you have any more questions. do you have any more of an opening statement billy yes okay mother teresa touched many a person easy she's from a catholic church she touched many person all right she dedicated her whole life mad dog do you want to take over this opening statement so mother teresa billy you can chime in mother teresa was a woman woman that knew no bounds in terms of her service to others and remember i'm defense remember i'm defense and helped those in need wherever she was we believe that her sainthood is deserving and that she is some may say rated perfectly in terms of her overrated versus underrated i'm going to step in a

little bit here, because I feel like it's important to say that Mother Teresa, she saved a shitload of lives, right? Yes. Like a ton of lives. Objectively. Objectively. She did more for the poor than most do in their lifetime. Yeah. That's why she's a saint, Billy. Exactly. Mm-hmm. No. My point of contention is Mad Dog already had that description written down for Taylor Swift and she just swap the name. Also, when you have to scream, remember I'm the defense, probably not a good Okay, let's just telltile sign for your argument. I'm just saying this isn't maybe my fully true opinion, but I also am and was raised Catholic. So I know a lot about her from theology classes.

It shouldn't be that hard, though, to make a defense of Mother Teresa. Okay, the allegations against Mother Teresa. That's a great point for the prosecution right there. All the allegations against Mother Teresa are based off of modern interpretations of valiant efforts in the past. And much of the things that she's accused of doing were. Hold on. Don't still man the prosecution. Let the prosecution. Let Billy finish. Well, this is what he said. Yeah. I'm pre. I'm gunning down your argument before you even voice it. That's what you're saying. You're supposed to defend her without. The accusation. You're trying to still man. You're trying to still man my position. I will still. It's a stalemate. So anyway. That's not the word he was saying. Nope. By the way. What? We're getting into it. Call. We're playing lawyer. Just finish. Just finish. Okay. We're All the accusations made against her can be made against the medical community at large and any charitable institution of the time.

Nope, that's wrong. Mother Teresa went above and beyond and helped more people than any of us ever will in our lifetimes in her accomplishments, such as her Nobel Peace Prize and her Raymond Mag Sase Peace Prize as well as canonization are total objective accomplishment. and merits that she was all in all a person who did the best she could. And the current Pope, Pope Francis canonized her in 2015 based on her two miracles attributed with her and her valiant efforts across third world countries. Well, good thing that guy's never made a questionable decision is Pope. I don't know what he has. Oh, he's a real piece of work.

Let's lay out the accusations. All right. God has gotten to PC. The Catholic Church. All right. So there are many criticisms of Mother Teresa, right? And we can be here for a long time. There's documentaries made out this.

There was actually a study conducted by three or four theologians and academics that levied her works, her good works, versus her reputation, right? And it was, I think it was called Saint or Saint. I don't know about the name. But basically in that paper and many criticisms from scholars, authors, writers, in general, the reason why she had so much criticism was very warranted. And I think the biggest one, in my opinion, was her hypocrisy. This is my, this is me talking. I think her biggest criticism should be her hypocrisy.

because what she did was she took the dogma from the Catholic Church, which was pro-life stances, right, anti-contraception places, I mean, stances, and she took them in places where people were, there was written with HIV and sexually transmitted diseases, and she preached no contraception, right? which is wildly irresponsible. That's Catholic dogma, religious dogma. And she did so into the guise of this is what God wants, right? All the while in her memoirs writing to her clergymen, right, and her memoirs, she wasn't even sure that God existed. She was more towards the end of her life an atheist than I was, right? And don't let me say it.

This is her words writing to her own clergymen, professing her lack of faith. She said, and I quote, Exhibit A, I'd like to bring into the court's evidence. She said, and I quote, I call, I cling, I want, and there's no answer. No one on whom I can cling. No, no one. Alone. Where is my faith? Even deep down right and there is nothing, but emptiness and darkness. My God, how painful is the unknown pain? I have no faith. I dare not utter the words and thoughts that crowd in my heart and make me suffer untold agony. So many unanswered questions live within me afraid to uncover them because of the blasphemy.

If there be a God, please forgive me. When I try to raise my thoughts to heaven, there is such convicting emptiness that those very thoughts return like sharp nyes and hurt me in my very soul. I am told God loves me. And yet the reality of darkness and coldness and emptiness is so great that nothing touches my soul. So very powerful words, I believe, right? If your conviction in yourself and your ideology is not even one that convinces yourself,

you therefore take a message that is proselytized by the church to then implement in a society. And you don't even believe to be true yourself. That is, to me, levies her biggest. So like when I, we're all hypocrites to a certain degree, right? We're all hypocrites. But hypocrisy where you're actually affecting the lives of other people, that's when I would levy that accusation against somebody, very much so i have more but i've been long-winded if the defense would like to or the judge would like

to intervene like to weigh in real quick so when what what was the date on that letter uh i can't i don't know the exact date but it's more towards the end of her life so she she wavered back and forth but at the end at the end of her life this was her stance okay um and also it's the sourcing on that way because it looked like a meme and i'm not saying that memes aren't sources right I just want to make sure to cut these were her letters to uh her her because you have spiritual advisors or whatever they call them in the catholic church these were her professions to them because you know in catholicism you you like what is it come you go to confession right these were kind of her she was like kind of confessing her and she did it in letters okay um yeah so i'm

i'm looking up the sourcing on that it looks like it was a it was a letter written to Jesus at her confessor's request. So, yeah, I mean, telling Jesus himself, that seems pretty final. That seems like some pretty concrete evidence that Mother Teresa, at least was the atheist at the end of her life. Well, so the issue I have with it, right, is not that she questioned her faith, because I believe if you are a person of faith, you will question it at some point in time, because that's what that's what thoughtful beings do.

but the issue is you're still carrying out orders from said church and you don't even believe it to be true in your heart of hearts and your deepest darkest moments but you're still carrying out these orders that to me at the very least it seems pretty concrete that she was agnostic at best and that when she was in this mindset so she was not sure that there even was a god when she wrote these letters and this yeah this sounds more agnostic than atheists yeah good point Good point. Well, hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, before we get away with that one, we have to define our, we have to define our terminology because a lot of the times, and I dealt with this all the time, when religious people think about atheism, they think it's an assertion, there is no God, which is not the case. Atheism is a lack of belief in a God. It's not the assertion that there is no God.

Agnosticism is a knowledge claim. I can be agnostic on how many apples you have in that bag, right? I don't know, right? So you can literally be an agnostic atheist. I think this was, I think this was, it was more agnostic than atheist because like you said, atheists is a lack of belief. She kind of goes back and forth between she does show some belief because she's saying, if there is a God, I hope that he forgives me. So it seems like that's, that's not a lack of belief entirely. But, but it is, that's why I say she goes back and forth. She, she does, in parts of this say that she doesn't believe. I think she wants to believe I think she's like half in half out

That's what I'm saying Yeah so I just want to clarify We're good Be good Big T's leaving the court room And protest right now We didn't We didn't make anybody swear in

Oh shit I should have brought a Bible Yeah Billy What's your response At the height of the siege of Beirut In 1982 Who could forget

Mother Teresa Rescue 37 children trapped in a frontline hospital by brokering a temporary ceasefire between the Israeli army and the Palestinian guerrillas. Mother Teresa saw so much throughout her life, more than any typical Christian. For her to question her faith was probably totally appropriate because she had seen so much suffering and so much that God isn't supposed. supposed to do to his people she saw the she was the good she wanted to put into the world and she was questioning maybe to god why are these things happening to these good people why are bad

things happening to good people and maybe was questioning god's work on this planet by implementing the methods of lack of contraception preaching of abstinence and promoting basically Catholic dogma. She thought she was doing the right thing. And throughout promoting that in seeing that it may have not been working, that could also cause questioning a belief. I would also say that Mother Teresa didn't do these fine acts,

acts as a Catholic woman, but as a woman trying to promote God's... Show God's love. Godly love. The earthly people. looking up some sourcing on the Beirut thing and so yeah there are 37 children that were in a hospital it was kind of a mental hospital in Lebanon and the hospital was hit by Israeli bombs and she took the 37 kids led them out of there despite the fact that they may have been

practisers of uh Islam and it was a conflict between Islam and a Jewish state Israel and she having no dog in that fight necessarily came in. Sounds like she did a pretty good thing by taking these kids out. Now, I guess the question becomes what was her goal in taking these kids and saving their lives? Because I think if you save 37 kids' lives, we can almost definitively say that you had a net positive impact on the world. If you do that out of the kindness of your heart, that seems like something that a good person would do. Billy and I think is true. What was her goal?

And that was her goal? Was she like, look at these 37 children in a mental hospital? They're going to be really easy converts. Or was her goal, like I just want to save these kids lives because it's the right thing to do. WWJD. Well, let us let us let us let the court decide, right? And just sticking with my first criticism because I have many, right? And we'll go on to others after this.

If we're dealing with net positive, right? And you name 37 of her. saved children. Yeah, I guess I need to find out what those children grew up to do. No, no, no, no, no, no, irrelevant. Let's just, let's let's let's say they grew up to be all upstanding productive members of society, right?

I'll grant you that. Would we say that continuing to block information and contraception from people who need it? Thousands of people would be a net positive towards that society. I think that's a that's a fair question to ask because birth control can keep down the rates of suffering children, especially in a developing country, where they might not have access

to health care, to necessities. Disease, sexually transmitted diseases are rampant in those areas as well. If you have contraceptive and preach contraceptive, what you do is, you do is, you, you you increase the probability that those diseases spread, right? Or you decrease the probability that those diseases spread. And so what you do is you're increasing livelihood. Study after study also says that if you have higher access to medical care, higher access to contraceptive, you increase the probability of the health and well-being of that

society and the lower amount of kids that you have as well. studies have also shown that sex feels way better without a condom so she was just I would really really making it tough for a lot of people she was for raw dogging I would argue that if mother Teresa uh adopted that ideology and had known what we know now about those sorts of tactics mother Teresa would have changed her stands immediately That's, oh, I'm trying to, what the fuck you say? Wait, what, how do you interrupt? Are you, cat, cap, cap, cap, we have, wait, wait, no, you have the, what is the term?

Objection. You have to say, objection. Instead of saying objections, say cap, I'll tell you overruled or sustained. Cap, what you're doing is you're making an assertion about Mother Teresa's mind state post, post-death when you have. no, we have not even heard the totality evidence to see her mind state when the information was present. I would, I would. So, Billy also sometimes gets stuck in a world where anything that happened before he was born, he assumes that nobody knew anything about anything. So we, we still had pretty good information about what contraceptives can do to help people when it comes

to sexually transmitted diseases and so forth. So for terminally ill, Patience, Mother Teresa, would always baptize them to ensure that they'd reach heaven because she knew that that was salvation and something that she knew she could do to help those people. And the only thing she could do. I would like the court to, it's not something she knew, is something she thought. Thought, right. But if she had had a cure for those people, she's been quoted saying that she would have

much rather cured them and helped them live as opposed to just baptizing them. More cap. Can I introduce new evidence, Judge? You may? There is also the second part of my criticism where I believe that Mother Teresa was not a fan of the poor, but a fan of poverty. Now, why do you say that, Maya, I ask? In a 1981 press conference in which she was asked,

do you teach the poor to endure their lot, meaning stay in their place or enjoy their, not in joy, but to kind of know their role, right? She replied, I think it is very beautiful for the poor to accept their lot, to share it with the passion of Christ. I think the world is being much helped by the suffering of the poor people. So I would like to introduce another set of evidence. She was talking and she, this is the words of her mouth, right? And I was very careful not to just levy accusations.

This is shit she said, right? She told a patient that was suffering. She said, you are suffering like Christ on the cross. So Jesus must be kissing you. And she tells this story. And the patient turned to her and said, then please tell him to stop kissing me. So I would argue that if she had a cure, right? And she tells this very flippantly story, right?

And it's funny. But if she had a cure, I would always. argue that she would not implement the cure because she believed poverty was something that was sharing of the suffering of Jesus. Yeah, I'm going to be honest. I, this is, she put up more conversion numbers that she reported back to the Catholic church. Like she was putting up numbers.

She was like, she was converting like, like, like, it was literally like insane what she was doing. She was going through the sick bay where people were dying and just baptize them before their death. She was stat patting. Yeah, she was stat. In garbage time. In garbage time on people.

They couldn't say no. She was baptizing these people. The Kirk Cousins of Conversions. Like, I'll try to defend that some of the medical practices that were bad for the time were widespread across India amongst medical. Like the stuff about cleaning needles and whatnot, like much of that in the late in early 80s was, you know, no one really knew about the. extent. No, we knew about clean needles. We knew about clean needles. Right, but it wasn't widespread amongst the third world. But the issue was that she, she didn't, she didn't put people in positions that had medical knowledge. There were volunteers and a lot of the times volunteers were

very kind and goodhearted people, but the issue was the reports found out that they were just practicing really bad medicine. And when questioned about it, she was just like, this is, this is the way it's supposed to be. For whatever her reasons are. So honestly, the last card I was going to pull out of my deck to sort of prove that she was a good person is this picture of her and Dr. Fauci from the lady. So she's got to be a good person

because Dr. Fauci's out there chilling with her. Look, I just sent it to the group. That's Dr. Young and Spride, Dr. Fauci with Mother Teresa. Did they have a thing? That's all I got. That's all I got. I hope not.

She'd have been robbing the cradle right there, right? Oh, my God. I got a thing for old women. That's too old. So, so she was, draw the line at Mother Teresa. Yeah, I'm going to be honest. I got nothing on it. Is it, is it, is it, is it, is it, would it be, would it be, would it be that bad?

If she had a clinic that was set up and, you know, she was a one clinic. She's not, she's not, she's not getting rich off it. She's not, she's not getting wealthy. She's, she's. Some may say she was wealthy. She's, she. Yeah. I guess maybe we have to get into.

Yeah. She was richer than Aryan. She took it. She took it. She took him. She took him. of dollars and possibly billions of dollars, I don't want to say billions because the numbers aren't aren't very concrete because like there are so many missing millions of all the money

that she took in. A lot of them say they gave them back to the church. Well, if you argue that she gave them back to the church, the church has been demonstrably proven to how old pedophiles for decades, right? And so then what you're doing is you mean to tell me Mother Teresa didn't know that was going on. That might be a reach. But I mean, this is one of the biggest organizations. organizations, crime organizations, the world has ever seen. And she was a, she was a conduit for that. She was a, she was a, a runner for that. And, and her, I'm doing good for the world, garnered millions and millions and millions

in donations. And they didn't turn around and use that money for lawyer defenses and, and conversion therapy and shit like that. That was just plain fucking evil, dog. And so there was many clinics. It was just one of clinics. There was many clinics. But even then, when questioned about it about the medical malpractice,

like she didn't say okay what do you there was no how do we have the best possible outcome it was just like she believed that people suffering was a good thing for jesus i've uh i've noticed this from some of my friends that i had in high school and college but there's like a small subsection of them that every now and again i check in on facebook and i just see what people are up to and there's there seem to be a lot of people that um get really into their faith whether it's in college or right after and they want to make a difference in this world. And they want to help out the less fortunate. And what they'll do is they'll get involved in a charity from their church that's based usually in Africa, usually in sub-Saharan Africa. And they go over there and they don't

have any real medical background whatsoever. You know, maybe they were a marketing manager or a marketing major in high school and in college. Tim Tebow. Yeah, or like a Tim Tebow. They don't have any real medical training, but they find themselves feeling a little bit directionless after college, like so many of us do find ourselves. And they decide the meaning that they're going to try to get out of their life, the purpose that they're going to look towards is by going overseas and serving other people. And they go into a developing country with zero training. And because they have more money than the people that are there, they feel like they are experts in that they can help set up a health clinic or you know some sort of charity mission with zero experience and a lot of

times it doesn't really work out like that they'll you know give up after a year or so and they'll come back with maybe a child that they've adopted from over there and that's you know that's the charity work that they've done um and i was reading article a few months ago about some people that have really fucked up some communities by going over there and hiring people with with no medical training that have ended up spreading diseases. So it's like sometimes with the best of intentions possible. But if you if you just try to do it on your own because you're looking for for meaning in your life, it can end up really screwing things up. And that might be what Mother Teresa tried to do. She wanted to save as many people's lives. She wanted to treat as many sick people.

But maybe, you know, all throughout this, she kind of was more so doing it for the church. than she was for the actual people that were on the ground. She was so indoctrinated from such a young age and I think towards the end of her life she started to realize that maybe this wasn't the best thing for everything but she was securing as much funding as she could converting as much people as she could and sort of spreading several ideals

that maybe I 100% believe that she thought that what she was doing was right unjust but I do not think she definitely it was an ends justify the means she thought that the more converts the more money they secured the better she was doing and you know the whatever sort of uh she wasn't trying to help the poor like as erin was saying that it was more justification of celebrating the poor and sort of using the poor as a means to get converts uh acquire funding and not exactly trying to help them largely. Big T, I'd like to give you the opportunity to speak.

I think Arian about covered it pretty well. She was running up in these little, you know, hospices that she set up for people, running dirty needles under cold water and then giving them back to people, giving aspirin to terminal cancer patients saying, wait, wait, Philly, you have to call Cap. Otherwise, a quote, will recognize you. Cap, Cap, Mother Teresa never actually did it. It was done under her instruction.

No, she may have allowed it to happen, but Mother Teresa was not, you know. Yeah, Bill, when someone allows things to happen and they're in charge, we generally credit them with doing it. I guarantee that Mother Teresa never held and people, correct, but you're culpable. But you're culpable. She was the Catholic church, Joe Paterno, it sounds like. Mao Zedong didn't actually kill 50 million Chinese people, but he did. He was in charge of it. Overruled, Billy. I think that's the one where I agree with Big T, right? But you can't say she was doing that.

She was allowing it to happen. Yeah, yeah, no, you're saying the same thing, you're agreeing with me. I got, I got a homeboy. I got a homeboy who got, like, 12 years because he was in a car, somebody that was doing a drive-by. He didn't do it. He didn't, me? That's fair.

Mother Teresa riding shotgun. But yeah, she was doing all that shit, racking up millions of dollars. Teresa was riding shotgun, well, one of her nurses was throwing around needles. It's like holding, it was raining outside. She was holding the syringe out and cleaning it off of the window. No, every, there's actually, Hey, this is Billy, and the picture of Mother Teresa and Dr. Fauci is not real. There's a hilarious conspiracy that Mother Teresa is really Dr. Fauci's father.

Oh, fuck, I mean. And that she's not actually a moment. So what a table of that discussion? I uncovered a bunch of weird. Like, I was trying to see like, okay, let's see, let's see if there's any Mother Teresa conspiracies. And boom, Fauci's involved. This is where Billy the internet anthropologist really shines.

Yeah. I mean, I found some crazy stuff. Anyway, just found that picture of Fauci and Mother Teresa. So if Fauci's a good guy and hanging out with Mother Teresa, she must be there. Now, wait, wait, Billy, the text that you sent us, the picture of Fauci and Mother Teresa. Teresa. Are we sure that that's real? Yeah, I know that's 100% real. How do you know it's 100% real?

Because they were working on the AIDS initiative. Okay. I just wanted to make sure that because high probability that it was photoshopped. And I don't think that you truly know whether or not it's real. I think you're just saying that it's real. No, it had to do with, it was where did you find it? Where did you find it? Let's see if we can find an actual news article that has this picture, not just from, you know, a Reddit thread. I googled Fauci, Mother Teresa. The first article that comes up is fact check.

Mother Teresa is not Fauci's mother or a child trafficker. Okay. Yeah, no, it was at some, like, conference discussing. I feel like Mother Teresa, based on the whole dirty syringe thing and maybe things that happened under her watch. Do we maybe... Oh, yeah, that's absolutely Photoshop. Okay. My spidey sense was tingling for Billy.

I can generally tell when Billy's trying to pass. And he truly believes the lies that he tells sometimes. I mean, it felt fishy that there's a picture of Fauci, just like with his arm around Mother Teresa as we're talking about bad medicine practices. The two, when you Google it, it only comes up from two places, Facebook and Twitter. Like, that's it. They're the only sources for this picture. All right, Billy.

Billy, would you like to do a retroactive apology for a fact that you got on? I wasn't going to try to pass it really as fact. You definitely try to pass it back. No, no, it was from an AIDS clinic. Now we're in the denial stage of Billy where he won't admit that he was lying just yet. Billy, just do a retroactive apology. And we'll put it before you make the initial mother Teresa Fauci claim in this episode. So we're covering all our bases.

So the floor is yours. I didn't actually plan on using that picture as fact I was more going to use it as like a funny But you did use it as an absolute stone old fact You know everyone has already listened to you talk about The picture of Mother Teresa and Dr. Fauci Okay the picture of Mother Teresa standing next to Dr. Fauci is not real Well actually I don't even know if it's not

All right now okay so here we go I don't prove to him that it's not I'm I'm atheist about the picture. I'm agnostic. I'm agnostic, but I brought up the conspiracy. Dr. Fauci is not, like, that is a joke. I don't know if this picture of them together is part of that conspiracy or a real picture. I'm going to guess that it's not a real picture. It's, I mean, they both. It looks real. It's a picture. More than two places. Let's see this. Well, you are using Google who suppresses search results. Let's remember that. What I really did find was a picture of Mother Teresa and Jelaine Maxwell's father. That's something I did find. Okay. Are you sure that's, now we have to go down this whole rabbit hole again because that definitely seems like it's not real.

That's, that one's definitely real. Again. Well, you said up the last one. I'm pretty sure that looks more real than the other one. Yeah. I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's not real, but I'm willing to be proven otherwise. The Fauci ones in black and white. It's from like 1982.

Right. The height of black and white photography. Right. Also, Fauci is towering over Mother Teresa. I know that Mother Teresa is not, you know, she's not Sue Bird. She's definitely tiny. But I don't, Fauci's like five foot four. I could see Mother Teresa being four foot, five foot.

And she's older. She probably got a hunchback. All the posts that I'm seeing about Fauci and Mother Teresa together, all the pictures, it's the same picture it's all from Facebook or it's they're all in meme format they all have texts that's like right above them so this is us fact checking

billy in real time you still haven't really apologized for messing up that fact right I just sent it's not a fact I just said here's a picture of Anthony Fauci no you said it was like an AIDS summit like you kept being like no no I found it at this place I mean going around

very poignant to what we're talking about accountability 101 Okay, but I wasn't trying to pass it. Come on, okay, okay, okay. I'm sorry. No, what you're going to do is you're going to say, hey, this is Billy football. I don't, but I wasn't trying to pass it off is like. You definitely did.

I was going to say like, oh, like, she definitely has to be good. Check out this picture of Herbert Fauci. I know, but you definitely pass her. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Let's make it clean so we can put this in, but before you started talking about Fauci and Mother Territz. All right.

So start by saying, hey, this is Philly football. I'd just like to let you know that what I'm about to tell you has been proven to be cap. Hey, this is Billy and the picture of Mother Teresa and Dr. Fauci is not real. I think I guess we can work with that. I mean, I mean, you got to, he's not, he's not willing to. That's okay. Every, when you put that in, can you do like a little sound effect that it's cutting into the episodes of people don't think that's just Billy talking? Record scratch.

like a Yeah, and then hey, it's Billy and then on record scratch and then left Billy continue with his fact that he was about to say about Pouch and Teresa. Absolutely.

Thank you. But check out this picture of Mother Teresa with Aviator. That's pretty good. Now, I'm willing to go down the deep dive of Mother Teresa Photoshop's because I'm sure there's some fire Photoshop's up there.

Yeah, but I'm pretty sure there's one of her with... She looks like Biden. That's interesting. It is. No, but the one with her and Max Maxwell's is because he was a donor.

Okay. She takes a lot of pictures. Yeah. I mean, you could imagine. That's why. I'm not seeing a lot of her taking pictures helping anyone. I think she was literally just a puppet for rich people to be like, look, charity.

Did she have a documentary crew that followed her around anywhere? A lot of the times. Yeah, I think what broke the whole story open was there was the BBC kind of wanted to see one of her clinics. And when they did, the dude was just like, oh, man, this is amazing. And then when they aired it, everybody was like, uh, hold on, fam, that shit looked, wow. Let me go check it out. And so when people started checking it out, they were like, what the fuck is going on? Do we have any more, any more accusations you'd like to level, not accusations.

I should say, any more evidence that you'd like to present? There was just people, so there were doctors that visited. And there was, there was misdiagnosed. there were there was lack of diagnosis right they didn't allow people to be diagnosed there was mismedic medications there there was people that were dying in that place that could have easily been treated with the with the medical technology of the day like it was it do you have evidence to support that i do uh so there was i didn't know we were still in the court judge my fault that's okay um there was a woman who was a caretaker who witnessed uh and this is and i forgot

I forget her name. I should have wrote all the name. I didn't know I was going to actually need the evidence. But she was in the documentary, Hales Angels by Christopher Hitchens. She's a writer, and she was a volunteer there. And there was her and a couple other ones that there was a doctor that came through that witnessed one patient of a high fever being treated with paracetamol and tetracycline. It's an antibiotic. Only later to be he was diagnosed with malaria by a visiting doctor who prescribed chloroquine. And so I don't know shit about the medical field, but there was medical professionals that saw malpractice. And the issue I have with it is not, yo, oops, my bad, that happens. Like Billy was trying to say early on, the reason why it would be called malpractice is its intent and also the know-how. If you know you don't know what you're doing, that's malpractice.

It's not we did the best we could with the information we had. It's not malpractice per se, right? And so I think that's the issue is they knew better. Like there wasn't like they would. And plus she had access to any, to hundreds of millions of dollars, any medical professional in the field that she wanted. She had access to all of these people. But like I said, I in a pure projection, I believe that she tied her, her clinics and

her to her worldview, which was she believed that poor people suffering was a good thing. Yeah. The Robert Maxwell picture is true. It is? Yeah. Okay. She accepted huge amounts of money from Robert Maxwell. All right.

I'm like 70% believing that that picture is true now. It's important because I don't know the search that you've done to verify it, but I think I believe you. I'm going to give you that. Someone with the aviators? No, this is the one with Jelaine's dad. Yeah, no, that one's, I don't know if the picture is true, but they did have relations. Oh, wait. You literally just said that the picture is 100% true.

Well, this is why I was right to not totally believe. I don't even know what you're going to say 70 anymore. Let's go to square one here. What was your source on that picture? Maybe people, maybe people can learn from us about how we're fact checking our statements and the things that we find online in real time. Where did you find it?

Reddit. Okay. All right. Now we're down to 40%. Okay. But on the Wikipedia page is there's several articles talking about their relations. Okay. So.

So we're up to. to 55% again. If you're actually on a Wikipedia page and not like... And it's corroborated in a telegraph... And not like pedopedia where they just accuse everybody of being a pedophile. No, I've never. I'm sure that there's a website like that. I just thought the Fauci and her photo was funny.

Okay. That was all... It was all a bit. It was all a bit. Uh-huh. Uh, she definitely, she knew Charles Keating, right? Yeah. She vouched for him to the judge that he is a good person, basically.

So Charles Keating, if you're not familiar with him, he was a big time anti-pornography guy. And that's always going to be a red flag to me. He was like he led the government's crusade against pornography. If anybody makes it their life's mission to be anti-pornography, that tells me you have a real problem with pornography in your private life. Because most people, if you're not into pornography, you just kind of. Don't think about it, and it doesn't become the central focus of your life. Like, imagine that. Imagine, like, making that your life statement to get people.

Everyone else has to stop watching porn. That's right. I got a homie who's anti-pornography. Like, I will not name, but it's, I've had those same thoughts. Ben Rathlisberger? Nah, I don't know that nigga like that. He's a big anti-porn guy now. Is he really?

He had an addiction. and he quit. He had to quit cold turkey. I don't know what his addiction was. I think porn is very healthy. Billy was actually asking this the other day about what level of addiction do you think Ben Rathesberger really had to pornography? I have a theory. I think that I think Big Ben got caught jacking off one time by his wife.

And he was like, I have a problem. It's an addiction. It's not my fault. It's a sickness. And so then he had to like go way, way public with it just to like prove. to his wife that he wasn't just casually jacking off. That's my theory. We should be, everything we do know about that guy,

we should be almost forcing him to watch porn. That seems to be the safest for everyone. Compulsory pornography viewing hours. Yeah. Yeah, this Charles Keating guy, he was kind of famous for a number of things, but one of the things in politics that he was really known for which being a big anti-porn guy. And so it kind of would make sense that if you're,

a very vocal anti-porn leader that you probably have some religious connotations to that. I don't think that most people who are anti-porn just do it because they don't like porn. There's usually some background to it that says, my faith tells me that you shouldn't be watching porn that's unhealthy, which porn in excess and some of the weird porn that's out now

is definitely unhealthy. I think can like fuck kids up. But if you're going to be a super anti-porn activist, it usually has a faith background. So it doesn't surprise me that he, he would be using his connections to try to work with charities that were related to the Catholic Church. That part is an interesting story related because that got me thinking like the reason why people

think porn is bad maybe, well, you fetishize women, maybe that there's several different reasons, but I think masturbation and religion is probably one, whatever. So I thought how many times should you masturbate a day? like what's considered healthy, right? It's a good question to ask, right? So according to Harvard University researchers who have 21, men who have 21 plus orgasms a month could reduce their odds of prostate cancer by 33%. Researchers concluded that more frequent rates of masturbation were associated with lower rates of prostate cancer. And their study included 31,000 men who were surveyed regarding how often they engage in self-love tracking the participants for 18 years,

recording which men developed prostate cancer men were assessed that year but anyway i thought that that was interesting study and granted it's a it's a loose lit study but can you imagine reporting how often you jerk off for 18 years keep i'm assuming they got compensated yeah i would hope so just like that becomes part of that just becomes part of your routine like hey i got to call these these researchers tell them i'm assuming they just took the accumulation of data like maybe quarterly i'm not sure like every time as soon as you're done you like you doc yeah not every time i'm sure i'm sure it was a monthly check-in it's also probably under-reported too just like when you go visit the doctor and they say how many beers do you drink a week when you're

24 years old and you tell them you know i have like six beers a week you know maybe three on friday three on saturday none during the week they automatically triple that i don't think anyone out there is overreporting the number of times they jack off during a week i may be uh somewhat of I could, I consume alcoholic beverages, probably more than the average human. But is it, is it me or do like, do you find those questions like, who to fuck? Well, they'll ask how many drinks of week do you have? And it's like one to two. Like, who just has like a glass of something?

Like, is that a thing or am I just an alcoholic? I think some people, if you get older, you're like, yeah, I have my one beer on Friday. I had a friend whose dad who was actually Mark from Hard Factor. his dad would not drink during the week and then on Friday he'd have one like very strong IPA sometimes too and then just fall asleep at 8.30 p.m. on his couch and that was his party night yeah that sounds awesome yeah it's something that we can all aspire to that's the future guys yep uh all right so mother teresa we have anything else in her defense that we'd like to say mad dog her reputation does have smears in it, I feel that maybe the Catholic Church sees her as a saint

because, well, the Catholic Church maybe has a tainted image of good and bad, but also she didn't know at the time that what she was doing would have maybe harmful effects on other people. I'm just speculating. So I think that maybe her intentions were. good. Maybe she had some self, you know, wanting to boost herself up. Who doesn't? If you had, look, if you became Mother Teresa and you were like, look, I got an opportunity to become a saint, wouldn't you want to capitalize on that as well? She probably, I know. I think there's definitely some merit to saying that the Catholic Church, they have, you know, an image problem to put it lightly. And they've had an image problem for a while. For a while. And Mother Teresa was somebody that they could

point to and say, here's some of the good things that the church can provide for people in need. So they had definitely an interest in making sure that she was very well promoted and that after she passed away, she was going to become a saint because that's something that they could show a positive impact for with the church. Now, Mother Teresa herself, she probably, I think we've established that her clinics weren't the great places that many people think that they might have been. But if they didn't go there, where else would they go? But did she? But did she? was it a net positive? Did she end up saving more lives? Did she provide health care to people that would not have been able to have it at all? As, you know, as, what's the word I'm looking

for? As insanitary as some of the places might have been unsanitary? Unsafe. Unsafe? Could be better than nothing. Is it better than nothing that she was able to treat some people? No. No, it's not better than nothing because the the money she raised for it when accounted for, right? So that's the other kind of the coin. Yeah, when you put up a farce that you're doing good, right? And you're not really doing good. You're just saying it's better than just dying on the street, right? But then the guise of it is, I'm a saint.

And then you get all this funding. And then that funding goes missing. No, that's not good. I mean, true. Also, though, I also though, okay. So growing up going to Catholic schools, she died, what year? I think she's kind of a 90, 97, 97, was 97? I think there is the element, though, that she may have been an inspiration for others to do good across.

Oh, my God. I mean, she was the shining light of the Catholic Church in the early to early 2000s to 2010. I'm like, I grew up in Catholic school being like people be like Mother Teresa, Mother Teresa did this, Mother Teresa did that. Obviously, in nowhere did we see the other side of that. And I didn't learn that until I did my own. research later in life, but in the Catholic Church alone, she is the example. She is the blueprint. So in the in the in the non, is it secular? Does that be secular? In the secular world is maybe she looked out a bit different. Yes. But in if we're looking at just Catholics, she is an A plus. It's always interesting to me to think about if you take a minus. If you take, you know,

somebody that has the best of intentions. Let's just say. somebody that's not Mother Teresa and they want to make a difference in the world and they go overseas and they set up a large organization that helps to take care of millions of sick kids probably have to hire a couple thousand people. There are probably going to be some real shitheads in that group of a couple thousand that you hire. How are you able to run that big of an organization and deal with all the bullshit that might come along with it and not turn into somebody that you can point at throughout history and say, well, actually, they weren't that good because they had these people that work for them that did X, Y, and Z. There's definitely

like things that you can, steps that you can take to make sure that the people underneath you are operated the right way. But I think the larger any organization gets, the more likely you are that there's going to be some sort of scandal that pops up from the people that work with you, even if you are a good person. I don't, I don't disagree with that. I think the issue I had and why I don't feel like that falls under the monetary category is it's always been my funk with religion, right? And why I don't really argue with people about religion anymore because I believe that faith actually helps people operate in their day-to-day lives to be good human beings. Like, I really honestly believe that. I don't have any, but like I'm more power to you

if you do. But the issue I think comes when you start to, so you said she had good intentions, right? Well, I also believe that people who, and this is very extreme, but people who do suicide bombings, They have good intentions, right? But the outcome of those intentions are subjective. I mean, I'm sorry, the inner workings of those intentions are subjective. So where I think what I'm doing is for the greater good, right? And I'm not saying she killed anybody per se, right? But what she, the shit that she did had very negative effect on human beings who she was dealing with.

So the intentions, sure, they might be there. But this is my fungal religion is there is there is no object. and how to gauge your intentions or your pure heart. Because to tell a bunch of people, a community ridden with HIV, you shouldn't have contraception is wildly irresponsible. Also, it may be caused a lot of death, right? And so, and on top of that, you wasn't giving them adequate health care for that anyway. So the whole, like, sure, your intentions, my God may tell you that this is the right thing to do,

but if there's no objective standard as to why this is a healthy practice, then it's, It's just irresponsible. That's my only fungal religion is when it starts to implement people with no objective moral standard. I could see Big T was about to jump off the couch when you said the suicide bomber thing. So I'm going to give them a chance. Well, they have, they have intentions that they believe, not good intentions. They believe it's good, though. Correct.

Correct. I just wanted to clarify that. Well, if they're gun for those 72 virgins, is that good? They don't believe it's just 72 burdens, brer. I know. They believe, okay. That was the offense too. I think they believe that doing an act that 99.9% of the world would agree would be heinous and objectionable.

They believe in their mind that it's the right thing to do. I don't think, I don't know if they have like good intentions behind it. Then you get into the whole discussion of what good means. That's what I'm saying. So good is a subjective term. which is why one of the greatest things the white people did when they found in this country was they they they haphazardly put a line between church and state right because if you want a society to be cohesive it has to be secular because if it's not then your belief system

then um whatever it may be will supersede somebody else's belief system based on no objective facts or no objective morality. And that in lies an issue. And so to make it secular means, listen, you have your beliefs, but you can't inject that into legislation per se. I mean, we still do to a certain extent, but you can't eject that into legislation because there's no basis behind it that we can, like we don't, there's no, we live in the material world. We can't live in the supernatural world. We have no way to examine it. And until we do, it makes zero sense to base your life on it. So to legislate your life. So that's why you make laws based around acts, specific acts, and not based around what's the right thing to do.

Yeah, it makes more logical sense. But this is why, like, it's hard having this conversation because, like, when religious people hear that, they think, oh, you're an ass, I'm not, I've, I prefaced it with, I believe that you should have your freedom of religion and believe what you believe. But when you start legislating it, the issue is if somebody believes in a God that that disagrees with the God that you believe in, then we have real conflict. You know what I mean?

And there's no way to adjudicate it because there's no way to objectify it. Excuse me if this is a really big reach and correct me if I'm wrong. Isn't this the whole battle between what's actually good, like basically morality? Isn't that kind of how the Kyle Rittenhouse case? Like he thought he, I mean, obviously he killed people

and we know that's bad. But he thought he was doing a good thing. going into that? Yeah, I think he thought that he was there for all the right reasons. Right. And so then that's like what people are debating of, you know, whether he had good intentions or not is not. Well, that actually, it speaks to Aryan's point because when you look at the facts

of the case and what actually happened there, and as Billy has said several times in the show, like everybody in that situation kind of deserve themselves. Like it was a really fucked up situation with nobody that was a really great person. It doesn't sound like that we're all in conflict with each other. He, by the rule of the law, did not commit a crime. Now, you could, there's debates on both sides of it, but it looks like at least he was found not guilty. But the reason that he was there, like he put himself in that situation, but we don't, we don't legislate decision making when it comes to you being in a location because of something that you believe is right or wrong. I think I said that.

No, I think he did a good job. And so I actually had an online debate with Destiny. He's like a super left. Well, I don't even if he's left anymore. But he's like a political commentator. It's pretty big. And we were debating that just that, just that exact thing where I believe that, sure, written house, he had a right to be there, yada, yada, yada, the legality of it. I was positive he was going to get off. This was like a year ago. But I, I, I, I, I thought that he was a provocateur. Like, I thought if you bring a load of weapon to a protest that you oppose, you're, that's provocative. And in no instance, does a good outcome come from that, in my opinion. But you're right, Mad Dog, when you say it's like, it's a subjective thing because somebody will hear that and they're like, fuck you, he's protecting property, right? And we can go back and forth on property versus people.

But it is a subjective thing. It is why to legislate something like that is a hard thing to do because those are subjective mortals like there's no right or wrong that's just how people feel um aver you've been sitting on this jury where you find yourself being swayed to so i i wrote some notes down um but i i don't know i think she's a fraud based on i i i sway towards um aryan talking when he's talking about the hypocrisy and i just think that the defense side wasn't uh didn't come with prepared facts they were they were a little lackadaisical on their information so i'm i'm leaning towards where billy wants to call cap on i'm calling it honestly i was researching all of her stuff and i found

more about the controversy than like the one concrete i saw how much money she raised how many clinics she opened in calcutta that one instance of saving those children um and then meeting tons of world leaders, but most of the specifics about controversy. And I couldn't find anything to refute that controversy. But, you know, are you asking us to send your client to prison? No, I'm asking, I think that she was in that benefit with how much she influenced people and sort of having like, you know, almost a placebo effect on the people she was trying to cure was probably, you know, worth something with her mind being a good place trying to cure them. I just don't think influence outweighs

controversy. Like I think there's specific controversies that she's had that would prove her to be a fraud. Yeah, I kind of knew this would happen. Is, yeah. I mean, the part about the contraception in a developing country that might have STI or STD problems,

that's pretty bad because you're saying you're going to throw out the fact that if you wrap it up, then you're way less likely to transmit HIV, you're going to throw that out there in favor of just saying, well, God tells you to not have sex until you get married. So if you, if everyone were to just abide by that rule, then there would be significantly less HIV in the community, which is true, but it also completely ignores human nature, which is, yeah, humans are going to fuck. And humans aren't always going to remain faithful or monogamous even when they are in those relationships. So that is, that is kind of like malpractice, especially if you're running what's supposed to be a medical, clinic to introduce something like that that's really not medicine that could impact people

negatively. Yeah, I'm going to agree that that's that's somewhat fraudulent. But I do think that she was probably able to help a lot of people that would not have been helped otherwise. So I guess it's like it's the most cop out answer I can give, which is saying like in conclusion, Mother Teresa was a land of contrasts. You know, like she had she had some good and so she was a complicated historical figure. And I think that's fair. I think I think a lot of the times, especially when we're assessing historical figures or figures in general, like we get caught into this yes or no, good or bad thing. But there's a duality that exists in this world. And it's like there are people that

have done horrible things that are good people and do good things. And there are people who have done, who are great human beings who have done shitty things. And so it's like, I understand that duality and trying not to get caught up in it. And like a lot of it was hype for the show shit, but, like, I couldn't care less about Mother Teresa's, like, judgment either way. I just know that going forward, you know, present her as, as she was rather than the myth of her. Mother Teresa was no saint. I'm okay with that. Oh, Billy, Billy wants to call Cap.

Well, the thing is, she pleased the people who are in charge of making people saints. so like yeah but I mean the bar was low though the bar is low she wasn't the same until she committed miracles I mean she committed miracles but that's how everything she did sure but yeah it's like it's like the FBI exonerated themselves over the CIA and I mean the CIA exonerated themselves over the involvement of the crack cocaine right we've done a research and we've conducted and we found that there's been no missteps right it's the it's the church and it's the theologians And it's the church that look at those medical instances and say, we've determined that there is no possible medical explanation for this other than a woman touching Mother Teresa or praying to Mother Teresa. And it's like, come on, man.

There's some people that like actually dispute that the husband of one of the women that had the cyst. He was like, yeah, she was actually taking medicine, real medicine for about a year. And that's what got rid of the cysts. So honestly, the closest thing we could compare this to is Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize. Okay. I'm listening. We're listening. We're listening.

He probably pleased the people who are in charge of picking the Nobel Peace Prize. But isn't that like everything? Like Joe Biden won the presidency because he pleased the people that vote. Big T. In the general elect, in the electoral college. A lot of votes got found about. Like, what I'm saying is that she definitely won the saint's game, like the game of becoming a saint. She definitely won that game.

But isn't that the game of life? But. Yeah. Saints are the Catholic's Hall of Fame. I think that's a perfect way of putting. Yeah. So like he, I'm okay with that.

She met the criteria. You can't tell the story of Catholicism without Mother Teresa. She was the first ballot. She was the first ballot, though. It took her 20 years after she died to get voted in. You have to be, you have to be. You have to be dead Veterans Committee

You have to be dead For a certain amount of time Yeah Five years Yeah I know the Hall of Fame Voting rules Well these miracles Just don't commit themselves

Because it's it's a little bit different From the Hall of Fame Because you don't really get judged Entirely on what you've done On the field But like you get judged After your career's over You know

You don't get judged I would argue we do that With the Hall of Fame too Well yeah But like the con Converts are like touchdowns Like she was She was putting up numbers

Converting people Like that's like putting a point it is funny though to imagine mother teresa asking doing the rounds every day asking which patients are about to die so she can go in real quick sprinkle some water on their head and then come back and chart like type into her Excel spreadsheet yeah got another three tonight yeah no that was exactly that might be what bothered me most about all this was like she was forcing a way of belief onto people in something she did not believe like that's evil that a bunch of leaders within India are also like she was straight up converting people who weren't

Christian and what if what if um their religious belief was correct was something that will probably never know going into this what if they were on the fast track to nirvana they were about to get to heaven and mother teresa comes in at the last minute the last minute of their lives baptize them into the wrong religion and and sends them to hell It was just waiting there for him and that Mother Teresa was just guarding the rim. Easy layup and then she comes and fucks it up. Chase down block like LeBron. I was going to say that's some Falcons type shit to like

their win probability was 99.9% on their deathbed. And then Mother Teresa comes in. It's like Kyle Shanahan of Catholicism of Mother Teresa. I was up 28 to 3 on the devil. They're both frauds. Who should both go to me. Well, it's like It's like

So Mother Teresa Pleased the Pope and all the people Within the Catholic Church to make her a saint And she had the numbers for it But she didn't please like The fans in total She was a compiler She did please the fans until like

10 years ago when the stuff started coming out though She didn't get her number retired By her home team The players she played with Wouldn't put her in the Hall of Fame She was never elected captain LaBron James That's what it was

She was never like the captain Uh huh Yeah All right Well Mother Tree I think we We discussed a lot about Mother Tree I think that the best way

To look at her is She was like anybody else That had Her positives Her negatives She did on a much bigger stage And so her positives Are magnified

And her negatives Are magnified as well She's Derek Jeter It is ridiculous That we were talking about Jolaine Maxwell And then we found out That Robert Maxwell

Was one of the biggest Donators to Mother Teresa That is true Wait wait wait Because I was with you for a second I was I was like Billy is making an interesting Conclusion here

But then you tossed in the word One of the biggest And I don't I don't think you have any stats That back up Like Who was a huge Donator How do you know

How much is a huge? Donor I think Billy's just Donor I think you're just assuming That he was one of the biggest He had several You don't know

Everything that you're saying right now is just pure stuff. Donating, he definitely donated a good amount of money. To get your picture with Mother Teresa, you probably have to fork over some coin. Yeah. She had different packages. You get a signature. You get a worn rosary. Photoshop.

She basically had like Only fans set up. Mother Teresa's working. Hell yeah. Mother Teresa is accepting tips. Yeah. that's terrible well that's amazing that is amazing whatever i hope when i die people have this type of conversation about me definitely will discuss i'll care well you're gonna outlive me easily did he has to go in the bad all right um anything else we want to talk about with mother

teresa i think we've kind of reached this conclusion here i had complicated jaunt but did some piece of shit stuff for sure yeah i i didn't realize she died so recently. I know 97 doesn't feel recent, but she definitely feels like an 1800s at the minimum character. Oh, really? I agree. Yeah.

To me, yeah. And I mean, I went to, I know Mad Dog was talking about Catholic school. Like, I went to Catholic school for 12 years and she was not brought up all that frequently. That's so crazy. I also went to Catholic school for 12 years. And she was a topic of conversation a lot. But also, I will say my main difference is that I went to for high school. to all-girls school. So I feel like they bring her up more in an all-girls school setting,

probably. Probably. Yeah. I mean, I went to, so I was in seventh grade in Boston in 2001. The reason 2001 gets brought into the equation is that was when the Boston Globe released their spotlight on the Catholic Church. Technically, it was early 2002. They were ready to drop it in September. Something you guys might have heard of, it made the news, September. of 2001 happened. So they had to push it back until early. They were going to, again, release it early February. Patriots were in the Super Bowl.

They had to push it back a month. So I believe it was March 2002 is when spotlight on the Catholic Church finally came out. So that was my seventh grade year at Catholic Memorial. So Catholic schools in Boston kind of had to learn on the fly what they were teaching, what they really believed in for at least my high school career after that. they, I don't know if they fully believed what they were pushing. Okay, so that makes a difference because I was in high school at said all-girls school when she was canonized.

So she had a press, she had a press jump. She was bumped. That all makes sense, actually. Great. That would be an interesting deep dive as well, the whole, the whole spotlight on the Catholic Church. That is one of my, spotlight's one of my favorite movies. Great movie.

Such a good movie. Violet's crazy. Have you seen it, Billy? I have not actually You should watch them I think you'd enjoy it All right I guess that

That concludes a trial of Mother Teresa Do we want to do the Tennessee minute We kind of did that already with the flag But we don't have We don't have Hinden today right We don't have Tyler They're fresh off of 45-21 win over Vanderbilt So the level between

Tennessee and Vandy is like the level between Tennessee and Georgia which are you saying you'd take that or not i'm just saying i'm just stating a fact it's like georgia is to tennessee as tennessee football is to vandy right now then i would say that makes tennessee like the most perfectly average team in the country because vandy's probably the worst and georgia's clearly the best yep i'd say we're a little better i'd say you're you're definitely above average and then oh the other big news we'll have to ask hinden about this when he gets back on but uh he did not participate in senior night activities he did not

Which indicates, yeah, he chose not to that indicates strongly that he's going to be coming back next year. I hope so. The weak quarterback class, I think he'd be making a big mistake. Ain't nothing for you back in college, dog. You've done what you can do. National title. Well, especially now that's not going to happen.

Think of the NIL deals you can get as Tennessee's first national championship quarterback since T. Martin. Fuck the NIL deals, bro. You're talking about thousands of dollars versus hundreds of dollars. Don't get money. Do you think, T. Martin is making more money than I'm just going to throw out a random Tennessee quarterback. Peyton Manning.

I do not. No. All right. I think that's the answer. I also don't think. Payton Manning returned to school for him. Payton Manning came back. Didn't need to, but yeah, he did.

Yeah, he'd have been number one either way. But he'd show. In fact, if he'd come out the year before, there probably wouldn't have been as much of a debate as there was the year he came out. He just, he had a commitment to his school and he wanted to see it through. What if? The school don't got a commitment to you go get. Also, money may have been some blackmail there.

I know Peyton wasn't exactly the best. No, that's fake. That's fake. He was no mother Teresa. That's fake. He was no mother Teresa. You know that's fake too. I don't know that that's fake.

No, you should look into that woman. That's fake. Oh, whoa, whoa. No, no. She is a victim blaming here. No, no, no, no, she was not a victim. Go look into that. I'll send you some literature later.

Don't worry about it. But that's. It's been, it's provably untrue. What if Arch Manning goes to Tennessee? He ain't coming to Tennessee. Did you see that video? Do you see that video of him with the chick in the bed going? Oh, Miss.

Old Miss. Who? Who? Archie Manning. Yeah, but that poor kid. But Lane Kiffin's probably going to be heading out of Ole Miss. He's a Cooper's son. So the third brother, he's his kid and he's the number one player in not this class in high school, but next year.

The third brother's son. Cooper Manning's son So Peyton and Eli are his uncles Oh okay I was like who the fuck is okay I got you Cooper was the oldest of the Manning brothers And he was a he was a wide receiver Like a really good wide receiver in high school

Yeah And he got hurt I think he had like a spinal condition He went to Ole Miss and I think they found out He got he had it out almost Yeah so he had a bad spinal condition Had to retire from football But he was apparently

They always say he was the best player In high school of all the Manning brothers But yeah Arch looks like he's, arch is fast. I don't know if he's a great quarterback actually. Archel actively fast. Arch might be converted to wide receiver.

That would be very funny. If it was like a Lamar Jackson situation where he goes into the NFL and Bill Pauline shows up out of nowhere. He's like, let's see, let's see how fast this kid can run around. Yeah, I like my tight end. I don't know about all this quarterbacking.

Yeah. So yeah, that's the Tennessee Minute. That's a brief. So we want to do voicemails today. we're going to do snack rhodosing are we going to are we going to do the Bible

I think we should it makes so much sense but how do you do a book a week a book we could just we could do like pick a story each week there's some great stories on there yeah you could pick like

a notable story from the Bible each week but then at that point it's like you already know it at least yeah so are we just like how long is how long is

Genesis is Genesis is long I think they had a lot to do I had to read Genesis in high school I had to like read books of the Bible

in high school let there be light that's Genesis right yeah mm-hmm made the earth in seven days on seven day he rest

we'll figure it out we'll figure it out make no promises right now but let's jump into some voicem maybe don't put that we'll see what happened

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and I love you guys stay handsome and very beautiful love you all right um I'll just say arian's hands I'll say it's very likely that you have you're such a dick no you have you have the it's very likely you have the best hands of anybody here i'm got it also depends yeah whatever it depends on what this monster is doing right what is the monster what's the purpose of it up does we want it to be an NFL player hell no because we would just be taking an NFL player i think it should just be a podcast yeah it's just arian it's just the perfect podcaster i mean he was he was he was all pro i'm pretty sure so I don't know I don't know whose body parts would be an upgrade over over

no he would be like if the government was introducing like the newest like prototype I don't not alien but Frankenstein to the public this is what they would promote him as new human just dropped yeah new human who this all right all right I'm gonna go I'll say big T's feet he's got like size 18 feet it's ridiculous 17 17 It's crazy feet Okay Do you have to get like custom shoes No Nike has them sometimes

No free ads You ever get them caught in anything Yeah all the time Steps are too narrow Like steps aren't long at all Time about you really have a size of 18 17 yeah Holy shit

Where was I the other day I was walking upstairs somewhere And they were just the tiniest fucking stairs you've ever seen And they uh You get the heels Oh it's the Korean barbecue Size 17

I don't know where I was But yeah I didn't come to that that's crazy I've sized 14s and I always saw it like like yeah I probably have the biggest feet

no time I'm in place nope big T walks in it no it sucks now y'all got some dumpers man that's crazy what was the biggest shoe of anybody you ever played with

I don't even probably like yeah probably 16 17 something like that Shaq's a 23 that's that's stupid that's A small human in that shit So that picture

That picture The white shoes made it look bigger than they were And Jack McCarthy was using his wide angle lens That's a little fake news Oh my God It's still pretty massive shoes No they were still big for sure But

About as long as buddy legs Brous brats, bro That's hilarious I think Billy's nose would be funny Funny addition on any human What makes it so funny No, it's just, it's a good nose It's a good conversation piece

I think that your nose looks bigger on your face Than my nose looks on my head It might That's actually what people were saying When I took the shades off for the first time And by the way, if you probably didn't know But I just forgot to put my sunglasses on During this episode of macrodosing

So if I sound different It's because I'm not, I'm not rocket shoes. But that's the thing that people notice mostly. It wasn't anything about my freak eyes. Now you're self-conscious about it. So you're lashing out at my nose. Yeah, I took my glass on people. Like, wow, eyes are pretty normal, but that nose is giant.

It's like you've been looking at my nose for the last five years. I don't know how this is new. Yeah, the frames made it, like a bigger backdrop. People just thought the frames were your whole entire eye. Yeah, exactly. Every time I see you without your glass, I'm like, yo, We got some low-ass beady eyes, but it's not the case. It's just, I'm used to seeing you with your glasses on.

Totally normalized. It's the Kanye eyes effect. Yes. Let's see, what other body parts are we going for? I feel like just the core should be me and the legs. It should be me. It's probably right if we're being honest. I mean, I just have to depend on what the monster's doing.

if we're podcasting it seems like a waste you look like you had an objection today man what's popping I had a pretty sick six-six pack about like three months ago it's not about what it can do I mean it's not about what it looks like

it's about what it can do I know I was doing several ab wheel crunches a day you know what Billy thinks his core is all right actually well you probably are an elite core No, no. Probably.

It's all good. It's all good. You got it, man. We'll take Billy's body. Mm-hmm. This is hard to do. It's hard to do. What is it doing?

Definitely my beard. Definitely my beard. Yeah, probably my hair for all being honest with ourselves too. Coley's smell. Coley always smells awesome. Whenever he comes in the office, always give him big hug. And I always, I, it's kind of like borderline insulting that I always compliment on how good he smells because he's like, well, you thought I would smell it is insulting

because the very first time you said it was early on in the first off, the technically the second office. But and you were like, huh, I didn't expect that. Like I just like walked out of a dumpster of some sort every morning. To be honest, I thought it would, I thought you'd smell a lot more like weed. I think it's fair, but I don't think it's a bad smell. No, it's not. It is. What? It's an objective. It's a lot. It's an objective. It's a lot. It's. It's a It's an objectively bad smell. You're in a minority, though. You're not what objectively means.

Yeah, as like, I'm glad to, I'm glad that you'll love it. By me disagreeing, by definition, makes it not objectively. I guess. Avery might have the sneaky best hair. Every's got voluminous hair. Voluminous. Yeah, voluminous. Yeah, look at that hair.

Every time I see him, he got a hat on. Yeah, I know. I never see. Matter of fact, let me see your hair, dog. Get in front of the camera. if you care, let me see, turn to the side. Give me a side profile. That's, there you go.

Yeah, it's pretty nice. It's hockey here. It's a nice white guy here. Yeah. It's like Justin Herbert hair. Yeah. It's like, yeah, you like, you like six months from, uh, what's the cat, what's the quarterback for Jacksonville?

Oh, Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, you like six months from that shit. Yeah. All right. Let's do the next voicemail. I don't know if we actually answered that. question that's a tough one to do yeah the guy was definitely looking for us to like start talking about all sorts of body parts mm-hmm creep I've got good calves that's that's that's

I've noticed you do that who's ass who's got the fat is that I've got a decent ass I'm not gonna lie I like my ass I like my cat that's what they want to hear besides that and not a lot going on and your hair your hair's good and here's okay as a man with terrible calves yeah you do you have you have good have thank you you have weak calves they're not weak they're fast twitch I'll get you we can go on the calf raise machine I guarantee I could calf raise more than actually I think I could calf raise more than you

bullshit I don't think anybody's actually ever challenged somebody else to a calf raise off just like I think this would be the first yeah we're total calf guys it's calf day you know how many calf raises I did my life totally how many dope way too many like putting my buddy on my shoulders

doing calf raises because we thought it would work to grow our calves Did it? Nope. Did y'all used to, y'all was the ones buying PFTU was one of the ones buying the East Bay magazine, them shoes with the springs on it. I have those shoes in this office right now. I bought him like a year and a half ago because I was trying to dunk again.

The calf raises. Asterix on again. The calf raises did give way better bounce, though, when you got in the gym. Yeah. After doing a bunch of calf raises. All right, Mad Dogg, what else we got? Okay. Michelle Gang, this is Cody from Mitchell, South Dakota,

home of the world's only corn palate. And on the last episode about JFK, Coli, you said that you think Dave, the only person that could beat Trump on stage. But Billy's buddy, Joe Rogan, just has Jock Lunick and old Navy SEAL guy on. I was wondering what you guys thought about Jock And if all you guys each could nominate one person to actually not run for president,

but to just be appointed, the president of the United States, who would you pick, and why? So, thanks, guys. Love the show. Let me know if you didn't hear all that because I was kind of... Yeah, I did listen. I don't know who Jacko is. Jock O'Link is this absolutely insane Navy sealed that just literally posts every morning at 4.30, his watch, 4.30 a.m. that he's up working out.

the guy's an absolute psycho he's honestly I wouldn't make him president not because you hate the troops no not because I hate the troops he would be great like if he

if he became the president we'd all have to wake up at 4.30 a.m. and be like literally going way too hard the country would be going balls to the wall and that's just not a balance

yeah I agree so who would you have the appointed president yeah everybody got to pick an appointed president yeah by the way that wasn't my pick i was more talking like realistic things that might happen in the world that's what i think but my my pick would absolutely be jalen brown i don't care that he's not old enough yet he's the correct choice he's the correct choice i'm gonna go with um uh cornell west

i think he's just one of the most brilliant minds around how old is he cornell i think it's around 50 you're on 50 but he's like so people don't know corner west look him up like he's one of the rare people who like can talk to conservatives and liberals and progressives all alike and they leave that conversation like what an enlightened human like i've never seen it before like it's weird but he's fucking brilliant i think mcanaughey i feel like mcanaughey would be a good president just because no one's going to attack you if mcconi's your president you're just going to want to chill with All the other leaders. He would just be having a nonstop summit at the White House.

He had bongo circles out in the Rose Garden. The world would be a much more chill place because everybody would just want to come visit McConaughey and hang out with him. I'd go Rogan. Yeah, we knew that. We knew that. That one was a given. Why Rogan, man? I just actually think he's down the middle on things.

I mean, weed would be legal. All drugs would be dealing. criminalized you know like there would be a net i mean disagree with some like everyone disagrees with him with on at least one thing so that was that's scary but it wouldn't matter because he'd be appointed so he wouldn't have to run true so he's just a actually if you just appoint them oh boy it could be anyone like it they don't have to have public favor i actually don't listen to enough joe rogan to make an informed decision on like how we'd run the country at all. But I do know that there are a lot of people that love to take a lot of stuff

that he says way out of context and act like he's the worst person on the planet. I think he's just like a normal person who has a lot of blind spots just like anybody else does. But because he has a massive audience, those get magnified a little bit. But he's objectively a great interviewer. He's able to get a lot of good stuff. I understand why it's so popular. He's interesting to listen to sometimes. Now, other times when he goes way off on his tangents about, like, the experimental technology that he's, you know, read an article about, that's when it gets pretty funny. Now, that's Alex Jones. Well, I know the difference. Well, sometimes he has Alex Jones on it. The funniest was, like, I listened to Joe Rogan at the

start of COVID when he had some infectious disease experts on there that he was talking to to kind of like get their baseline on it. And it was funny because he was getting a lot of great information out of him. But then at one point, he just, he locked in on the idea that maybe you can just kill COVID by going into a sauna for 30 minutes. Every single person, no matter like back to back episodes, he'd have different ones on and he'd be like, sonnas though, right? And they'd everyone to a T would be like, no. Every single person would say no. And he'd stay, be like, I'm going to get, it's like going from mom to dad trying to get a yes, but he did that with like 20 different dads. And he never got that. Yeah, so you can, you can tell what he's really interested in any given point because, like, he'll just harp on that and try to wedge it into any conversation.

He was like, but wait, if you breathe in the air and the air in the sauna is 170 degrees and it's going to kill all the COVID that's in the air, like, well, no, no, because you're not actually breathing in air that's 170 degrees. Your lungs would give way if that were the case. Your body cools it down on its way in. He's like, no, I'm going to call cap on that. And Billy, Billy, you're talking about Billy, Billy's hero's cape right now. he's not my hero i just think that he he's a little more like i don't know i mean he's very like the guy you can't put put him in a pigeonhole him on any like real political spectrum besides using steroids that's one thing he's guilty of

very political issue steroids yeah anybody else having a appointee congress little man uh yeah ronda santis and i'm pretty sure i'm going to get my wish three years I don't know. You think that he's going to go toe to a Trump? I don't think he wants to run against Trump. I don't think Trump's going to run. I think he will. I think he might try to.

I don't think the RNC will kind of not let that. I don't know if that's that call. Yeah. Trump is basically the RNC at this point. And if it's DeSantis going against Trump, Desantis' thing is he appeals to a lot of Trump supporters. He's modeled like a lot of the way that he does things after Donald Trump. And but if you're going up against the real deal, it's not like you're going to be, it's not like going up against Ted Cruz, who you'll be able to bully off the stage. Right.

You're going up against the guy that you try to emulate sometimes. It's, it's Tennessee hiring Jeremy Pruitt and trying to beat Alabama doing what Alabama does. Yep. Good point. That's exactly right. I will take that bit that Trump will run. I think he's going to run. I don't think he becomes the nominee. I think it depends on how many booster shots you have to take between now and 2024. who you think going to beat him do you think why the tennis is going to beat some

that's in the end I also think I don't even I'm going to get even bolder plan I don't even think that they will have a Republican convention yeah I don't I don't not a convention what is it called primary primary

I don't think they're going to have a Republican primary if Trump announces he wins I think everybody bows out and just lets him have it because correct me from wrong, BT. I don't know that much about the GOP, but I cannot recall a man, fuck the GOP. I cannot recall in any political

party somebody who has had the staunch following that he has. Like the I don't want to say cult like I don't want to disrespect. Yeah, no, I understand what you mean. And so that kind of has infiltrated the GOP in general, right? And so I find it really hard to believe because what you didn't go against, if you go against Trump at all, in their eyes, you're going against America. That's how he's kind of marketed himself, which is interesting to me.

It's like, if you go against Trump, you're going against America. And so for a Republican to go against Trump is kind of like a death sentence. Like, I don't see it happening. You know what I think actually has a chance of happening is Trump does go through the primary on the Republican side. And he runs against people who might, maybe somebody will beat him in Iowa.

And then he'll be like, you know what? You cheated. Actually, I won in Iowa. And the person that beat him, in Iowa will be somebody that defended him in the fraud allegations in the presidential election. So now they don't really have a leg to stand on. They'll end up giving Iowa to Donald Trump and he'll like kind of cheat his way through a couple of states, end up winning the nomination and then maybe beat Joe Biden like legitimately in the next election. I hope Joe Biden will run again.

Oh my God. Did you hear the rumors today? They're going to have to drag this man out of a hospital so so Kamala's approvals at 28% his is at like 40 and they know that she can't win an election and he is probably isn't going to run again so the rumor is um thinking i don't think he can physically run yeah oh hunter didn't uh hunter versus don junior the the rumor is that they're going to try to nominate Kamala for the supreme court so that they have i don't buy it i don't buy it that's that shit that comes up all the time time like it was going to be the same way, but it was going to be like Ted Cruz was going to get nominated so that he wouldn't run against Trump last time. That's like an Aaron Sorkin West Wing

fantasy where people that know how to use the bureaucracy and, you know, take democracy very seriously, do this type of like, like back channel stuff. I don't think that's going to happen. I think that. I don't think it'll happen either. If Biden does run again, he's probably going to get his ass kicked. Okay. If they help the election and I understand they do it every four years for read it. If they held it today, Trump or is Biden, oh, man, it would be a bloodbath. Yeah. Let's slide. Here's a question. Do you think, let's say you don't like Trump. What's worse, the possibility of Trump 2024 to 2028 or just having Trump be done by 24? He won, had two terms and he's out. What do you think would be better?

I think, I think the 2024 to 2028 because I feel like is better than if you, you want two terms in a row? Well, depending on what side of the spectrum you follow. How does that work? How does that work if he gets elected again? Can he then run for a third term? No. No, you can't run more than two terms.

Doesn't matter. Are you saying, are you saying, are you saying, would it have been better for him to still be president? For him or for us? No, just like if, if, let's say you hate Trump, would you have rather just get Trump over with and him had one or him win? No, because I, I feel like him losing in 2020 almost made him, uh, I don't even know what I'm looking

for is like it hurt his, it hurt his image. I feel like if he, it's making him go from like level 100 to like, oh, well, he already lost to like sleepy Joe or whatever. So it like, I actually think it I think the broader point is this is, I think I think this is a really good question too. But I think The broader point is, like, let's say, and I feel like this is a pretty bipartisan take, too, like, so let's say you're a fan of Trump, but let's say you don't fuck with Trump, right? I feel like you can agree. Even Republicans that fuck with Trump or people that love Trump in general, they can agree that the political climate is leveling at the very least socially, right, to where you feel like we can kind of breathe the collective side of relief because although, say you like

Trump policies or say you like the way Trump does things, the majority of honest faith actors will say, yeah, you know, he probably says things a little brass and he's a little divisive, but you know he says it's in his gut right you'll agree that since Biden's been president the collective calm politically has been a little bit more tame than it was with trump i think for eight years in a row what that like you're looking at like real civil unrest i feel like no but i feel like now it's much worse now that Biden's president it's like they're not angry at Biden they're angry at fouchy they're angry at the polarization they're angry at exactly but my point is do you feel like there was less civil unrest when Trump was president.

That's what you're saying? I think I know what Aaron is saying. It's almost like you get to take a breath as a nation. A pause. Because regardless of what you feel about the policies, like it's objective that Trump was stoking a lot of the flames, like with his constant being in the public with his thoughts, right? At least with Biden, although I don't agree with a lot of the things that he's doing,

he's doing it in the background, right? So it's almost a normalized status quo in America, right? Whereas like I still don't agree, but at least it's not stoking like fires. He's not talking shit to NFL players. He's not saying this, calling people tiny, calling people stupid, calling people this. Where it's like, you're a little of free world. You just relax a little bit. I would actually say that there is an argument that the media being stirred up, you know,

sort of the conscious of, you know, NFL. players, you know, uh, celebrities, the media being riled up is a lot better than like what we've been seeing on the ground in Biden's administration, be it protesting, national unrest, Kyle Rittenhouse, shooting people like, think about that. So what do you say? I'm just saying that there's. He didn't shoot people during Biden's presidency. This is a trial.

No, it was last summer. Yeah. wait yeah what years we need to it's 20 oh my

yeah I don't know it's no but all I don't would you say the unrest that that was funny as hell my G wait

it's 2021 right yeah and this is not this is this is not an indictment for people who disagree with me politically I promise like what I'm saying is I feel like

it's a more objective thing political climate is sure there's always going to be people bickering as long as there's people in room, right? But what I'm saying is since Biden has been president, like it at least gives media outlets to critique policies or to critique stories rather than having a story handed to them on a golden platter saying, talk about this 24-7. Does that make sense? Part of me thinks it's worse in one regard, better, more, more better than worse. much like Mother Teresa, but worse because I don't think people are paying attention like they did.

Like, you had to pay attention. The focus, you didn't, that guy could have done anything at any given moment that could have ended us all. And now this guy also still can, but people don't care as, I don't want to say care as much. They're just not, it doesn't feel as life or death every day, which is that breath you're talking about. Like, we do get to take a step back. But I do feel like that lack of public collective and being informed is why we're talking about him probably winning in a landslide in three years. Like that's that specifically why. Wait.

So I think he's going to run and I think he's going to win. I got my days. For some reason, I thought 2020 was like passing the guard for some reason. Just like, you know, the shooting was in 2020. Yeah. So but Biden became president. Yep. Yeah. Are we got another voicemail?

I was going to nominate David Baker for president. He would be awesome. He's not doing a lot right now. Six foot nine. He's a mammoth. And he has a law degree. He went to pepper dye.

He's legit. Bitch the shit out of Putin. Right? You put him in a room with Putin? Putin's, you know. Who's the, I don't even know if what I'm going to say is a real thing. Vice governor.

Is that a thing? Lieutenant governor? Lieutenant governor. Thank you. I knew there was a word that was. in my mind. That's fire. Vice governor, yeah. The lieutenant governor, I believe that now this might not even be his title of Pennsylvania. I think PFT might be the only person who knows he looks like a biker. Yeah, yeah, the, the giant dude. Yeah. He needs to, he needs to be more

public in my eyes. Like, that's a guy I put all my faith in. Yeah, he's guys whose name I do not know and title I also do not know. That's what I'm talking about. John Fetterman. Fetterman, yeah. he's a huge mass he is like david baker's size yeah and he's uh he's not afraid to speak his mind either big weed guy huge weed guy or just elect the hottest chick in the united states how about that that would i think most people could get behind no offense um to anyone out there that might think that this is a sexist remark which it probably is but if you have like a very attractive woman in the white house i feel like most of the angry elements in American society, which tend to be largely male, would probably just chill out for a

second. You know, they'd be like, uh, she makes some good points. Even if you vehemently thought you were going to disagree with whatever she was going to say. It's always, it's always a, uh, a softer blow when it's coming from, when bad news is delivered to you from a very attractive individual. Who's, uh, who's the lady with the whiteboard who's always just frying people up? The lady with the whiteboard oh the press secretary no i don't know her job title she's she's she's out west somewhere but she goes into these hearings with she's just got a dry erase board oh yeah yeah her i trust with my life implicit like she she comes with the facts she's extremely prepared she's very knowledgeable her i don't know i don't even know what her title is what state she's from every time i

see her she's got someone squirming in a chair every time are we got another voicemail yep one more hey guys i'm ali from orlando i'm driving down the south floor with my boyfriend right now so we thought we'd call and ask the question so my question is if you had to live anywhere in the world except the united states of america where would you live and why thanks guys Everyone stay handsome, Aaron. I'll go first. I'd kill myself.

Do we have this question before? I wouldn't do it. Have we? Yeah, then. Oh, maybe. There was a, it was a variation of the same thing. All right, then we don't have to answer it, but. That's a good question.

Well, the other one was like if the world was about to end, or if there was like a post-apocalyptic world. Where would you go? Would you start over? If I had to live somewhere. else. The thing is like... I really like Scotland, my way. Scotland's nice.

You don't get sun for a lot of the year. That's okay. I don't get sun a lot of the times here. Canada's just the most like us. I know, but it's not even good. They don't have college football there. Boom, Rose. They do.

In Canada? They have a college football league? Oh, yeah. Regina. Like actual college football? football? I mean, it's obviously nowhere near what we're here, but like I, we had a football guy from there from, uh, that's true. I remember when I was there, they were having Tennessee be national champions. Oh, easily. They were having their like national championship when I was there a couple

years ago. It was like, oh, I'm just banged on Canada. Dude, they're like Kirkland. It's like Kirkland brand. It's like Kirkland brand didn't do anything to deserve this. Yeah, Kirkland brand is awesome. I would say, I don't know, that's a good question. Something I've thought about before, where else in the world would you want to live? I like, I like Barcelona. Barcelona is a great place. It's like got a good mix of beach. I like being close to the ocean or the sea. And then it's got a lot of great food there. My only problem with Spain is they don't start partying until like 11 o'clock at night. And that's an issue. But you're getting older. I'm already. You get naps. You get midday naps. That's true. You get the siesta. That's kind of nice. Is England that

bad? I like London, but is England that bad to live in? I, England's never really done it for me. Again, I think that we should invading trash. It depends if you're making the surgery or not. That's true. I agree with trash. Yeah, I agree with that. Like if Seattle was a country, like I'm all set. Yeah. I just got back from Seattle by the way. I love Seattle, dog. I went there right before Thanksgiving. I talked about it on a train and shit. That shit's fucking fired. And it was raining and shit and that's my bag.

Of course it was. That's what they do about this. I love rain, dog. They get their Starbucks. They grab their umbrella and then they kill themselves. And bro, I was, I was, I was, so I was walking out. I don't remember what street it was, but they have like fucking Starbucks deluxe up there. I don't know what it is.

It said Starbucks, well, if you look inside, it's like Starbucks. It's like the reserve. It's like the, it's like, yeah, you go Starbucks Reserve. It's like the Wonka of Starbucks, bro. That shit was amazing. It looked like it had a bar in there. I was like, it was a full bar at those. You know what's interesting about Seattle right now is they're swinging.

Everyone knows how like Seattle, Pacific Northwest generally thought of as being very progressive, very liberal leaning part of the country. They're swinging back towards the right when it comes to their city legislature because they're dealing with some like really bad homeless situations up there. where there's just tent cities everywhere in the city. It's like when people talk about San Francisco and how bad it is, a lot of times that's overblown. Now, there are definitely parts of San Francisco that are not safe to be in right now. But overall, in my experiences in San Francisco, it's a pretty nice part of the country.

Seattle has like literal tent cities that are being built and just like consistently there for the last several years. So the city is swinging back towards the right, right now it's kind of interesting to see what's happening with their politics i didn't know that i know i know portland portland is really bad with the tents um from what i've been spent a lot of time up through this last a couple of months it's that's that's that's really bad with the homelessness uh anybody else some movement where'd you move oh i would go to i would go to bolly some like some random island just give me a little shack and just leave me to fuck alone

yeah that's that's probably the right answer tropical island you have resources you gotta make Make sure that you're close to... They've got really good hotels there. Yeah, this was in post-apocalyptic. Yeah, this is just... Yeah, this is just regular. I think about resources in the regular world, too. Like here?

Do you think about resources in New York City, Philly? Yes. So when you're looking for apartments, you think water reserve in my body? You're in a terrible spot. If, like, society collapse, you're in a terrible spot. Yeah, Hoboken's going first. No, I'm close.

It's easier to get out. To where? With all the people around you? Trust me, I've already planned it out. I know where the reservoir is. Like what resources are you worried about in New York City? I don't know. Well, like resources are classified differently.

Like subway. Like, more amenities, like location, like figuring out what's around you. Right, but I don't think we have a lack of resources here. Right, but that's like. But I guess that's why you live here. Yeah. True. that guy John Federman Coley the guy from the lieutenant governor of

Pennsylvania I remember now he was the dude that he was I think just living in a shed even while he was like it was right before he was elected lieutenant governor but he was just spending like all this time helping people in a small rural community or like I don't know if his totally rural is probably like right outside Philadelphia but he was just spending like every penny that he had helping other people what was that sound thank the dues here I heard some yelling and I was just like if Rico's fighting with the do

I thought there's the dude it sounded like a wall just exploded that'd be electric if he got thrown through a wall like I don't it'd be very unfunny if he just got picked up and thrown through a wall oh is when he was mayor

he was mayor of Braddock and as he was actively serving as mayor of uh this place in allegheny county he was just like living in a shed pretty much homeless just like spending all this time trying to help every person in town individually needed help because he was big during the election cycle and i felt like everything i read about him at the time he just seemed like a very genuinely good person now obviously he's a politician in modern america it's hard to say who's genuinely good or not but like i feel like when people have one they've done one negative thing that gets written about a thousand times and i just have

haven't seen that with them all right anybody else uh the netherlands is where i'd go also terrible weather eh it's not england too many bicycles in the netherlands it's all but it's all flat there's not a single hill in the netherlands no but i mean not in terms of like how challenging it is to bike around the place i mean when i was there i felt like i was in danger of getting hit by a bicycle at any given moment oh yeah i never feel safe on the side of that rushed I almost got demolished by a motorized one because I was just looking down reading something as I was walking. I looked up the last second. It was it was almost curtains.

But I feel like that's something you get pretty used to after a while. All right. We good? I think that's it. I'm going with Northern Italy. Okay. That's a good one. Like do you have a certain city?

No. I don't know why I said there. I just always wanted to go. I like pasta Is crema in northern Italy? Has anyone else felt that ever since we went to lockdown the whole like time is just a blur?

Yes. Hot take do you think we're going to go into another lockdown if Amicron Amricon? Yeah, Amicron gets bad. No. I don't know. There's not I did a little bit of reading on the Amicron thing and credit to whoever is coming up with the names for these different variants. I know that there's probably like a scientific

It's the Greek alphabet. Yeah, there's a scientific reason for how they're being labeled. But they always, all the different variants sound to me like there's, it's somebody that's naming a new season of the blacklist. And they're like, the blacklist, Omicron, you know, like something that sounds really kind of dark and sinister. It just, it just confuses me. But I did some research on the Amicron thing.

And right now, as best as I can tell, nobody really knows if it's more contagious or less contagious. And no one really knows if it's more deadly or less deadly. I mean, so it's still like very much up. I think that the media saw the name Omicron and they're like, this is going to get some clicks. Let's write a bunch of articles about it. But they're still doing a lot of research on it. It's probably not a good thing that it's being detected in so many countries and they're shutting down travel again. But I haven't seen anything that says that it's way worse. It's going to be very interesting to see how this is viewed in 10 years like our reaction to it just like I mean because this is a world event that I'm living through is a 20 20 to 22 year old and it's like the first one

I'm really experiencing it's sort of an adult so like when I'm about 30 35 they'll probably like see what was right what was wrong whereas 9-11 I didn't really witness all the movings of it but now we look back and say okay we shouldn't have done that so it'll be interesting to see how this all works out in history Billy just had a live oh I'm growing up moment a little boy

little boys growing up all right that's also oh shit my bad no go ahead no cut me to fuck off though I was just going to wrap things up mostly because I have to take a shit but I also want to see what the hell's going on outside

yeah those are way more important honestly good it was just to add on to Billy was saying you good all right I want to hear what you're saying it some of us have to poop Billy here you can leave I was just I was just I was just going to say uh it's also an interesting part um because this is our first like real live experience with social media being as prevalent as is and so it's kind of like a a beta test to how we're going to handle future like tragedies like all of this shit like it's a real live like look at it and we've had we've had things obviously with social media but i think this is the first

one where the global economy was affected so it's like a real a beta test for it all right we'll see you guys on thursday for snack redosing then we'll see you guys next tuesday for another macro dosing we love you guys Thank you.