Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Mt. Everest ft. Colin O'Brady

Episode Date: August 2, 2022

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the crew welcomes on extreme endurance athlete Colin O'Brady (1:42:00), to talk all of his expeditions including his climb of Mt. Everest. You'll hear all about the amazing life of Colin, in which he has gone places most wouldn't dare to go. Also, another edition of T'd off and voicemails. All of this and more on today's show. EnjoyQYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, Macro Dosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Welcome back to Macro Dosing, the only podcast that you can find anywhere available on the internet. It's also on YouTube, which is also the internet, but it's a different internet. It's the one with pictures. We're back in the studio. Ariens here, Mad Dogs here, Avery's here, Big T's here, Billy's here. We're ready.

We're ready for a big episode today. We've got a great guest coming in in just a little bit. We're going to get some crazy stuff with him. His name's Colin O'Brien. Brady. So if you haven't looked up what he's been up to, the guy is a world-renowned. Would you say he's an adventurer, Billy? This guy is probably one of the greatest modern-day adventurers. I mean, he probably will be up there in history with, like, guys who, like, Marco Polo and stuff like that.

Okay, let's go. Like, he's probably explored the hardest of our era. I don't know if he could have competed back. in their era but yeah it's a different era putting up numbers in today's world yes uh so he's an interesting dude we'll get to him in a little bit arian how you doing what's up how's the move going your house getting getting set up it's they moving at a tortoises place man but i can't do the shit they do so i'm telling yeah it's got to wait i'm still up still upstairs but it's looking good floors is done um kitchen's pretty much done they got the cabinets in that's cool

It's the TV in? No, the TV's not in. That's going to be one of the last things we do because it's right by the wall I'll be busting out too, so that's going to be the last things we do. Yeah, you got to show us, you got to show us the TV

the second it goes up. I will send information. Yeah, I can't wait to see. How big is it again? 143 inches. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. My friend Mark from Hard Factor

just got a 75 inch TV. I was like, dude, that's too big of a TV. Yours is twice as big. big as is. It's pretty ridiculous. It's going to be ridiculous for sure. That's insane. So imagine watching Joel Olstein on that though, you know.

Is it is it one screen or do they assemble like different panels of a screen? Nah, no, it's one screen. How are you going to get that through the door? I got a big door. I mean, I know they have. You probably had to get a new door. You probably had to remodel your door to get your TV in. Well, the back door is like.

like an open like so that's one of the things we're doing is we're busting out the back wall the back wall's busted out and it's gonna be like you should call me ha ha my bad dog i didn't even get it done right but we got some amateurs busting out the back wall they're using lubricant no but they um so they busts out the back i don't know if you ever seen like an LA style house where like the like there's a there's a there's a wall and it's like an open it's like an open area from the living room and it's a glass sliding door and so that's like a really big area so they can they can fit through there i don't know what they can they got to figure that shit up well good luck good luck uh going through a remodel can be pain in the ass i know

that um going around the room real quick want to check in on how everybody's weeks have been how your weekend's been um big tea would you get into uh nothing cool that sounds like a great actually yeah what about next weekend uh braves are here there we go you're resting up yeah just wanted to plug something real quick oh it wasn't there talking a big tea yet we are launching a great merch line a little housekeeping we have some amazing t-shirts with amazing taglines that's crazy how you're just going to let him undercut you like that though that's kind of that's kind of wow because he's putting money in her pocket so i'm just going to let bill i'm going to let billy i'm going to cook no i mean we got some awesome shirts that we currently have on right now this one's the

macrodosian shirt something that arian's been trying to get us to get going and they are awesome they got some great tag lines we live in a simulation down don't swim in lake lanier in a more coming check them out at the barstool sore macrodosing um space is fake is another tagline a lot of great stuff hats shirts so be sure to check them out okay thank you billy good plug nice job bill great job Nice job I mean Billy's ad voice It might be the weakest shit

I've ever heard Billy I'm just trying to be good at my job Billy I'm going to give you some constructive criticism

okay let's do it again but do it a Russian accent yeah well yeah go go we have some new

marks dropping on the not the black market real market this is above ground sales is going very is summer am I fucked up

that are all vampires Does that, has that been? No, no, that's Transylvanian. You're, you're being a little, you know, you're mixing up your, your ethnic groups right there. A nigga, you sound like a vampire.

How I'm fucking up? No, Drigula is a little, ah, fucking how I'm messed up. The Dragula accent's much different. No, it's not. I think Billy thinks it's called Dragula. Dracula. Like the Rob Zombie.

Rob Zombie? Yeah. That song Fox, by the way. You say it sucks? No, Fox with an F. that song's good oh that's that's new to me that song fucks yeah that's a term that's aggressive that but it means good i'm trying to share my culture with here and we're we learn from each other on this show so america yeah two americans i actually too america like the term

she's bad is something that i never understood but turns out it means good things you've never heard like someone being like that's bad i just remember i just remember in high school first hearing the term oh she's a she's a baddie she's bad i thought like she's like a bad person but turns out of me she's very attractive were you were you like a boy in a bubble like what the fuck that's i that's been around this like what i don't know what i think i heard it first in middle school or high school and i was like like what why is she and then i didn't want to ask so i didn't want to know what about what about what about fat ass that i mean that's that's that's a little more obvious but you ever heard the Michael Jackson or yeah the Michael Jackson song bad

yeah I thought that was like about being bad being bad misbehaving as long as we're confessing dumb dumb things here I was I think eight or nine when I first listened to Jimmy Hendricks and I had one of his CDs and I was reading like the liner notes of it right and in the liner notes he's talking about the song manic depression that's that da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da that song and it said yeah i wrote this song about this cat that's trying to fuck music and it made sense to me at the time I was like that's kind of weird but it's a cool song the guitar playing's excellent on it And then a couple years later, I realized, oh, cat means just a dude. Yeah. Oh, man.

It's actually non-gender. Yeah, it's just like, them cats. Actually, yeah, it's gender neutral. Yeah. It's a very welcoming term. It's inclusive. But yeah, maybe I'll have to just write a song about an actual cat. Oh, I saw Top Gun again this weekend.

And I'm okay with not knowing what they're saying. on that song the I love the melody so much that I don't think I want to know what he's saying it's just I love humming it so it's cool with me

yeah and then the chorus is highway to the danger zone but a lot of people think it's right ride into the danger zone I thought it was I went to the danger zone it doesn't really matter because the song rocks right yeah it fucks

yeah there we go I had that with the Beatles song paperback writer I thought it was take the back right turn okay take the back right turn uh huh yeah all right let's let's keep going around the room

any songs that we didn't really realize what they were saying there's a Bruce Springsteen song what's it called the is it 10th Avenue breakdown is that the name of it or 8th Avenue freeze out is what it's called i thought for a long time he was just saying devil devil with the freestyle but he's saying 10th avenue freestyle i thought it was devil devil with a freestyle anyone else

i'm looking this up right now uh oh the song blinded by the light yeah where it says uh apparently the lyric is revved up like a deuce another runner in the night yeah i thought it said uh something I guess wrapped up like a deuce but then I thought it said uh and pulled a boner in the night a lot of people think that song says wrapped up like a douche yeah maybe I don't know that I thought about that part necessarily but I always thought it said boner boner what is it douche I've heard that I'm sure I can look it up but I've always heard it but never cared enough to even care about it like but I've heard it so what does it do like you're a douche it's always been so I've felt nothing when somebody has said that well it comes from the

French for a shower That's true Oh wait, no No, no I think it means like Like cleaning yourself Is French Yeah, it's a shower

Yeah, it's a shower Yeah, it's a shower But I don't know Mad Dog, do you want to take this answer I feel like this is me We're about to get some mansplaining territory Wait, I can't hear Aryan

What is he asked? Oh, okay Don't worry about it Yes, Matt Dog, cover your ears I mean I can put two and two together With context clues Yeah, cover ears Okay

it's something that a lady uses on her part when she wants to get optimum freshness or after she has a baby or after she has a baby a douche is a vaginal cleansing kit it is why is that a pejorative because yeah actually that's a that's a great point it's actually shames men for sexual proclivity no it's it no it's saying like if it would be the opposite though If you're calling somebody a douchebag, you're saying, like, that guy is constantly in Poon. And cleaning it. And cleaning it, yeah. Yeah, it's a, it's, it's slut-shaming men.

No. It's congratulating them for having good hygiene. Yeah. And then passing it along. That's the stupidest slur I've ever heard in my life. I agree. When you think about it, it doesn't really make sense. We need to take back douchebag.

well actually douche bag I think refers to Billy that's your word that's that's you get to take that back what a douche bag yeah there you go but I think douche bags like something not it's not even a douche I think it's like a bag that that holds the like a vacuum bag I don't think it vacuums I think it's a vacuum thing you just sprays okay let me look Matt dog says it sprays it's not a vacuum you think you think chicks are out here

just like vacuuming their vaginas out? I don't know enough to even I just don't know enough about that. All I know is that it's definitely not a vacuum. Without a doubt, not a vacuum. Have I ever used the enema? I have not. I came very close one time.

It was, was right after I had, I think right after I had my kidney stone and I was on pain medication. And so they give you a bunch of it in the hospital and then they give you just a couple to take home. But after like two days of taking pain medication, it plugged me up for like five days. I didn't poop for like five days. And I was like getting, you know, you could feel it in your guts like this, this is bad. You're all jammed up and you can't poop.

And so I'd go over to the Dwayne Reed right on the corner here. And I just stood in the aisles just like looking at the enemas and looking at the pills that you have to put up there and just staring. And I'm like, you know what? Not yet. Give me one more day. Just give me one more day. And I can make this happen. So then I just really focused went home and pooped a little bit.

Man, I was so happy when I did that. What about you? That's hilarious. Yeah, I had an animal when I was a kid, but I don't remember why. I think it was like on some like cleansing shit. Yeah, I think we were just like my dad was like. an FOI and they had some weird practices

and so like we would do odd shit and I remember that for some of me. I should check with my mom before I shame him for that I'm gonna call it real quick I actually mom have I ever had an Inima? There's like there's people who pay to

go to I want to say India yeah you heard about this they do it here they do it here um oh shit what's the name of it yeah there's people Hey Ma

Not Kalanipin Hey Ma You're on a podcast Oh dear Your face isn't I had a quick question I remember as a kid getting an enema Is that an accurate memory?

Jesus It's possible But do you remember why? No I remember was something to do with dad trying to clean us or something? I don't know. Yes, he was a firm believer in that if you got sick,

it all stemmed from being sick on the inside. So his thought process was to cleaning you out and get rid of all the impurities and that that would then cause you to be healthier. I think all of you experienced that. Ah, well, now you know I'm pro-science, guys. Thanks, Mom. I'll call you later

I wasn't tripping All right That's good That's good Got to the bottom of that one Yeah Can somebody real quick Look up with OJ tweeted

Because I'm getting tagged in it I'm getting tagged in And he's got me blocked Which is probably Fast all around I'll play it I think I saw that he had some takes On Deshawn Waltz

Oh my god It's a minute 44 and then we got Colin coming in. Okay, yeah, just we'll play this and react to it. Here's just the tag. The caption is OJ Simpson, the real OJ 32. You hired her, she made her decision, respect it, exclamation. It's truly well.

Let me start today by sending my condolences to the families of Bill Russell, you know, when I was a kid growing up in San Francisco. One of the first sports names that I heard, of course, Joe Lewis was the first. But it was Bill Russell, playing across town, went in back-to-back NCAA championships for the University of San Francisco. And then he went to Boston where he won 11 world championships. And in the process, became the first black coach

in all of American major sports. The winningest team player of all time, Bill Russell, God bless you. This morning, you know, they keep talking about that. That is Sean Watson situation. They hired this federal retired judge. They obviously respect her both sides. She looked at it. She came out with a decision.

Hey, man, that's it. That should be it. People are saying, why would he settle if he was innocent? Hey, look, guys, he's not going to change anybody's mind no matter what he does. He can't change my mind. I think he probably was out of line with some of the girls. And I think some of the girls jumped on board because there was a chance of making money. plus the fact that

fighting it is going to cost a fortunate fortune. I'm pretty sure the legal fees of fighting it wouldn't be much different than what he paid off. It's settling these cases. I'd just like to see it go away at this point. If I want

to see negative and hear negative news every morning, I'll just watch Fox News channel. They'll tell me what's wrong with America and everybody. I'm just saying. Take care. Listen. I'm just saying. I'm not saying I agree with the guy,

but I am saying I do need OJ Simpson to comment on anything that happens in America. It does. I know. It kind of rocks. Did OJ just presume guilty over innocent? OJ looked at the facts. OJ said if he did it,

here's probably the way that it happened. And honestly, I don't disagree with his assessment. I think there was some, if he's hit going on with Deshaun, and I think maybe some, maybe some females jumped on trying to get paid. That makes a lot of say.

It's a rational take. It has it's not. Yeah, I don't think it's, it's not irrational take. I don't think that it's like beyond the pale to think that it was proven, or at least it's, it's been deemed to be believable. And a judge said that,

yes, there's enough evidence to say he sexually assaulted some of these women. That definitely happened. Who knows, if you have, how many were there, like, 26? 25. All 25, each circumstance is probably a little bit different. We don't know.

But, like, he definitely did some of that shit. Like, without a doubt, he did some of that shit. And so, uh, six games for that. OJ, by the way, has still not been suspended by the NFL. Just putting that out there. That's a great point. Neither is Aaron Hernandez. He never got suspended.

That's just a fact. Well, there's no chance he ever plays in the NFL again. OJ Simpson could theoretically I mean not play what if the bills wanted to sign him to like a one day contract retire a bill you know suspended yeah

immediately is there a curse of OJ is that why the bills haven't won a Super Bowl we need to have the discussion maybe four appearances in a row that's that's tough though that's tough what's worse losing four Super Bowls in a row

or losing a Super Bowl in which you had a 25 point lead in the second half I think four in a row four in a row four in a row yeah I think it's pretty close but yeah I think three in a row

it would go to the Falcons yeah four in a row is that's forced off that's hard to do that's a lot that's five years of your life straight up ruined

that's like you know the thing about football is like not the best team doesn't always win right so like if you could have a good game some fluke shit happens and you happen to fumble away a game

shit happens like that all the time but to go four times in the row and not collect the dub, that's just that's the worst thing. If you assume it's a 50-50 chance you win, which obviously it isn't, but just for the sake of the math, that would be a 94% chance

you win one of the four? Because that'd be 50% chance you lose the first one. Right. But this was in the days of the NFC beast. It's not. But 50% chance you lose the first one, then 25, then 12, and then 6. So you'd have a 94% chance of winning.

in one of them. The NFC Beast really, really put it on Buffalo, with the exception of the Eagles. Because it was, all three of them got involved, right? Cowboys twice, Giants, and at the time Redskins, the R-words. To be fair, that realm with the Cowboys was unreal. They had so many, like, Hall of Famers. Yeah. I didn't realize it was four.

You want to know a crazy stat, though? This is wild. No, I don't. All right, then you can mute yourself, but I'm going to tell everybody else in this room. Tom Brady in his 40s has more touchdown passes than Troy Aikman did in his entire career. Yeah, Ackman wasn't tossing him like that, but it was also a run-heavy league, too. Yeah, and they had a great offensive line. Yeah, Troy Kman was a part of a great squad, not taking away from him.

He was a solid, very good quarterback. I don't think he's, I don't think he's like a top-tier quarterback, though. How's our TikTok, do we? Okay, we're good. We're on one hour. I have it blocked because I don't like myself coming up on my own TikTok. Hey, Avery, we're recording right now? Yeah, we are.

Okay, so start from the point where Big T said, how's our TikTok doing? He has it blocked. What do you mean? What do you mean by that? Do you mean you don't like how you come across on it? That wasn't part of the show. Because I'm with you in that if I hear a friend listening to part of my take or macrodosing, I tell them turn that shit off immediately

I can't stay in the sound of my own voice Yeah I don't like like I've seen myself Come up on my own TikTok feed And I was like I don't want this to happen ever again So I blocked the account I've caught yeah Yeah I asked how it was doing I still have an interest in it doing well

Your clip got us like 100,000 news Which one? The one of him saying public schools shouldn't exist Oh I T puts asses in seats I have cog Does put asses in seats because Big T says like Asinine things

like public schools shouldn't exist. That's not asinine. You guys blew it way out of context. I think you literally said public school shouldn't exist. Did you go to public school? University of Tennessee is at public school. All right. I mean, we're not doing this again because you guys don't.

Let's move on. I think there's one of your all-time worst takes, but it did put asses of a shit take. It's a terrible take. I posted on Instagram and Aryan comments on. He's like, I miss this. What the fuck happened here? Yeah, bro. You say that.

shit when I'm not on the pod, bro. I honestly didn't remember that you weren't here, but it's horrible. I mean, no, you're not listening to what I said, but it's fine. You said there shouldn't be public schools. What else is there to hear? Correct. And then in the money that everyone would save in taxes, the landscape of private education would look drastically different.

That's silly. So no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I am an anarchist. government should not exist but that's another discussion so anyway libertarians have no idea what they're talking about ever ever big tea give me another assinine take that we can we can use to put some asses in some seats this week uh i don't have this segment's called big tea puts food in her mouth um i don't know i mean i'm sure you'll stumble across one eventually that you don't listen to and then i mean don't actually pay attention we know we we had a long conversation about the public yeah

and nobody and nobody listened and it's fine no I think I think there's a difference between nobody listening people listening being like wow big T's full of shit it's definitely one of the better uses of tax dollars could you admit that no no no that's his whole point no did you see the uh did you see the video this week of the elementary school librarian uh advocating for kindergarten first graders to read a book about a transitioning child

I did not I did not see that clip but again he follows lives of TikTok that's just fucking propaganda, bro. Then, oh, ask, go have conversations with teachers. That actually teach. Yeah, do you know any teachers? Yeah, don't do that. Teachers are wonderful.

They're great people. And, and, I never said teachers are bad people. Well, that's, that's the narrative that's starting to come out. I was like, oh, every teacher wants your kid to be gay. Watch out. Don't go to school because they'll end up, they'll end up blowing their best friends. See what I said when, or see what I meant when I said, you don't listen. That's an, that's absolutely the narrative that's going to talk to a teacher.

There's a librarian. you brought that there's a librarian that wanted kids to read about a kid transition well that's that's pervasive through a lot of school systems it's not it's not all you do is follow lives and tictock and think it's happening everywhere it's not big t okay whatever right wing publication that you got it from this is not prevalent in our public schools if it was we could literally point to a curriculum where that was the case it's not the case big t university of tennessee literally would not exist in public schools didn't that that's Do you think that's like an own? Like I said, nobody's listening. No, it's listening. Private education would not be the way you think of it now. We learned to listen to public school.

I had this conversation with people on, we had, I got hella faded and I was on a discord talking to people and there was a libertarian. And libertarians are hilarious because they never think all the way through things, right? So your worldview, Big T, is abolish government, right? Except for to protect its people, which is a government's purpose. That you can't this. what do you mean technically the military protecting your people

right protecting sorry go ahead no technically the military is a kind of public school their training their training of soldiers is a publicly funded educational system it's just if all of school was PE and you got a gun no there's tons of like I'm my friend my buddy's in OCS and let's home back you got to make your bed and all that shit too it's like electives being in the military is like taking going to a public school that's only

electives and you get a gun like technically i think what about what about what about private property big tea how do you how do you establish private property in your world uh what do you mean how do you establish private property i don't i don't understand your question without publicly funded things that come from tax dollars yes I mean in a world where the government doesn't exist you just kind of set up shop that's what I'm saying so how how do you establish private property which is the core tenet of capitalism I don't know you just you you are where you are but then what if someone comes in your house and it's like hey it's my house now then I guess you've got a fight on your hands so it's just that's the same

Silly as shit. Just bring the USA to jungle rules. It's silly. Anyway. Exactly. I mean, I kind of almost respected. I do not.

It's silly. It's exactly what Jesus is one. I'll tell you that. What does that even mean? Do you want a society where it's the bigger stick rules and you follow a religion that is the exact opposite of that? You know what? You know what Big T's describing actually is jail. You're describing prison.

It's like, But even then, there's the authority. It's like, okay, I want to hang out in this part of the year. I want to play basketball. Who's going to be able to protect me so I don't get my ass kicked off the basketball court? Oh, yeah, I'll just get in this gang over here. So now this gang, now he's my protection. These are my guys, so I'm not movable off the court.

Oh, there's only one guy out there shooting. He's not affiliated. Just push him off. You're talking about Lord of the Flies. Exactly what he's talking about. Bad book, by the way. You don't like it? You don't like humanity

because it describes it He loves it They fucking loves it What do you mean? He's advocating for it You think Piggy had it too good for too long? I need to go back and read it again

But I didn't enjoy it the first time I read it I can't find that movie That shit was hilarious man They just go They go they go They go ham They do They absolutely do

All right Big Tea, what did you seeed off about this week? Oh, thank you for asking. I watched the film The Parent Trap for the first time this week. And I took some notes on it, despite having actually thoroughly enjoyed the film upon its conclusion. I love how you keep calling it a film. It is a film. It's so good.

I have some thoughts. So I liked the movie a lot. The kids are abject morons. they get to this little camp they fence they do their little fencing thing and then upon taking off their fencing mass whatever those are called you're fucking identical

you're played by the same person that's how identical you are and it doesn't occur to them for a while that like you know there might be something here like I mean you're identical twins so that pissed me off then so eventually they're like my both days October 22nd so then they go back

and they pull off their little switch and whichever one wasn't Dennis Quaid's kid goes with Dennis Quaid and he notices immediately he's like she's using the word proper or she's saying proper things she keeps calling him dad incessantly like things that the other one didn't do and it doesn't click to him either that made me upset but then eventually all whatever now my overarching uh concern was this custody agreement wherein uh the two children were just never to know of the the other's existence in each. It was literally the split the baby.

They just, I'm going to take one kid, you take the other. Yeah, that doesn't happen. Mary shall the two meet. Right. That makes, that's not legal. That's not a thing. I'll tell you what, if I was one of those two parents, I would not be bringing my child anywhere where it was even a remote possibility

that they would run into the other child. It's been my entire life trying to avoid that exact circumstance from happening. to have them figure out what's going on. Do you think that this was bad for kids that grew up with divorced parents because it gave them hope like, hey, if you try hard enough, you can get your parents back together.

I'm sure there was some of that. Yeah. But the original one had been out, what, 30 years before that? That's true. All right. So how many balls do you give the movie? It was a good, it was a good move. That blonde bitch sure was a cunt too.

Big T. What? Don't say the C word. Why? I don't know. It was like a, it was like a three nine. It was a good movie. Three nine out of five.

Yeah. Okay. Out of five balls. Got it. She really pissed me off. Okay. Big T's one sentence review of the parent trap on a quote card because we're spreading around, Aaron.

No, no, no, because you've never actually made a quote card of Arian. Yes, I have. Not of the, not of the, shit that we say we're going to put on it yeah yeah we have all the time where he's like talking shit about his teammates like yeah i might have the only quote cards on his podcast did you block the macro yeah did you block all of my social media no it's just muted you i'm on the show i don't need to see the clips i was there common big t w there i guess i don't know all right that blonde that blonde bitch sure

was a c big t put that on that on a shirt review of the parent trap to be clear the girl that he's going to get engaged to or that he is engaged to before he reunites with yeah that's what she was supposed to be I'm aware but she

she played it well that's my exact reaction after I'm done watching Casino with Sharon Stone but also great great character that she played also why is big to you allowed to say the C word but when I said the F word on my first episode, his mom called me about it.

She's used to it by now. Fuck. Okay. But he can say the C word? Yeah. Mrs. T. Well, I believe her complaint was women cussing. Yeah.

Yeah. It was that you were a lady. She's very sexist, it sounds like. But the C word is a harsh word, no matter whose mouth it comes out of. Yeah. Oh, actually, in English, yeah, no, they can get away with it. Australia is too.

They say to every other word. see so i know but the english get away with that i don't know how it's it's like their word yeah when they when they say twat too yeah bloody twat that's just as bad yeah oh uh wanker wanker is a good one i've been watching a lot of um uh love island uk yeah it's it's actually the best season i've seen this this this this season this new season i don't know if anybody's up on it But it's the best. Bombshell has it to the video. Yeah. But in things, oh, so bombshell over there doesn't mean what it means over here.

Bombshell here means like you're, you know what I'm saying? You're a baddie. Bombshell there means it's an unexpected surprise with like a negative connotation. Oh. Well, they live through the Blitz. It's true. True. That's true.

They also say, what do they say? Boner means a mistake. I made a boner. Yeah. Yeah. It means you made a one like you screwed up. Like what? Like when you got to put it.

work to like you know what I'm saying you got to work on like getting in somebody's good graces they call it grafting or grafts they're grafting I gotta do a lot of graft in here they got to say that there's another one that's funny as shit so what's saying this bird's well fit in it saying yeah fit it's like yo she bad she's saying yeah she probably fit saying what is super offensive yeah pardon yeah you have to say pardon or excuse me saying what outright is like what like it's it's offensive do you guys say do what some people say instead of saying just what on their own they'll be like do what it's a regional thing i know a few people that do i do say what i know i heard say what say what i've heard that too do what always it really

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Mount Everest. Helix is sick, by the way. Sorry. Didn't mean to cut you off. No, it's fine. But it's so good. Plug away. I have a helix mattress.

It's the best match that I've ever owned. I also have a helix mattress. Fire. fire mattress I want another bed right here behind me is a helix mattress what up with another one though I got a new house

Avery see if you can highlight him for I I Billy texting me this weekend was like Avery I need a mattress You're upgrading I'm not upgrading You got somebody moving in

Mincy's moving into your apartment Oh shit Don't put no dog on your mattress bro it's just gross No mincy is not a dog he's my you've met mincy

no sorry he is a dog he is a dog he's got that dog he's got that dog get him he's out there he's on a widespread panic show

he's come back from fish in Maryland I know who mincy was it's a funny joke but I was just saying don't put the dog on the mattress

brer yeah Bill you're so weird he was talking about my dog who sleeps on the mattress because he is he deserves to he's a king and he wakes up

with no back problems no back problems guys I think I got a concussion this morning would you do what happened um I was okay so I work out every day before I come to work I was running late this morning on my way to class and I tripped across the crosswalk oh no look at my arms oh shit did you fall in your head I'm like like I like hit my neck and I like no no arms were involved in breaking my phone so where was you did you road rash on your face no it was like at the side of my neck Are you having deja vu? No, but I'm really tired all of a sudden.

Yeah, your eyes started to droop. I don't say that. Wait, wait, someone put a flashlight in your eyes. But it's so embarrassing. It's Monday. But it's so embarrassing. Okay, free online concussion test. Mad Dog might have gotten a concussion.

Do you have a baseline? Do you have a baseline? Do you ever take the impact test? No, you know. No, Mad Dog has CT. No, Arian, I tripped across the crosswalk this morning working out. And so not. I'm all scratched up and also it was raining so then I was all wet it was so

okay so mad dog rate rate your headaches scale of zero to six right now yeah have you had any headaches like a one one okay it's a one okay wait wait hang on billy wait neck pain like a four or five is it would you describe it as moderate or severe okay moderate I'm not like dying four nausea no zero dizziness no zero zero maybe I didn't get a concussion blurred vision no zero okay maybe I didn't get a concussion balance yeah I don't think so I want to be honest concussions have gotten so overdiagnosed especially at like the high school sports level sensitivity to light actually when I got back to my apartment I was like a two I'll give it two what happened I just was like what the fuck

like I was like thrown off you're like it's so bright in here yeah I'm gonna give that a three then Okay. Like you noticed it. I noticed it. Okay. Noise? You sent some noise? No.

Okay. You feeling slowed down? Yes. Okay. Five or six? I'll do five. You know, fog? This morning I was.

Did you drink last night? No, I did not. Don't feel right. Scale zero to six. Like three. Difficulty concentrating. This morning more, it was like a three or four. Okay.

Like I just sat there. I couldn't, like, get dressed after. What about remembering? You're remembering things? Yeah, I'm fine. Okay. Fatigue? Yes.

Five or six? Five. Confusion? I don't think so. Maybe it's one. Drowsiness? Yes. A lot of these questions are the same.

Yeah. These are all, like, are you tired? Trouble falling asleep, we don't know. Are you more emotional? Yeah, because I got, I got mad this morning. Yeah. Okay. I got mad at Jake Melasike this morning.

Okay, there's a lot more question. That's also normal. I'm going to say that you, um, you might have a concussion you might not okay that's fine now I mean did we hear the borderline pro brain injury I just I just placed I just kept that moving oh what the no some there's ridiculous stories where like someone gets like hitting the head with like a soccer ball and they're like oh I'm concussed you can't like they can get a concussion I know they overdiagnosed them and then like it like isn't it one of those things where you'd rather be like overly safe yes I was about

to say that that's one of those things. where it's like that's okay to over diagnose in high school because bill you're gonna you're gonna understand as you get a little bit as you get a little bit older that um the brain is something that you don't want to fuck up and so you know that you might feel like oh yeah i'm gonna be you're a pussy if you don't like i'm not being a hard o about it but like literally like sometimes you it's honestly i think it might have been my specific experience but you just see people like get this was more like someone get hit in head then they milk it leave school not do do homework, be out for weeks, but, like, you knew that it was just BS.

So I'm calling, I'm calling Cab on that. That it's, it's something you probably never saw. Motherfuck is, I was out for weeks. You could, if you had a concussion, you could really milk it and take advantage of, like, especially in the, I'm calling it, but yes, you should. Absolutely. No, no, but it wasn't like, it wasn't, like, it wasn't anyone. So, like, you look, I look back on the different sports I played, the different

injuries I played. And at the time, I was like, okay, whatever, it's just. I'm seeing stars, no big deal. And then you think back on it once you get a little bit older and you're like, yeah, that was, I should not have kept doing that. I should have stopped. So you gain a little bit of perspective as you get older and you look back on it and you realize that it's not the most important thing in the world to finish the fourth quarter

of a high school football game. No, that's not what I'm saying. As someone who like understands what concussions was and someone who probably got a bunch and realized it's now like, okay, that was, there was times where it was definitely overdiagnosed. So what I was surprised to hear, because I actually. Actually, I did have a chance to talk to his name's Chris Nguinsky. He's one of the guys that's leading up the, is it Boston University study?

It's the one where they collect the brains and they do the CTE studies. I'm actually going at the end of August to get my cat scan. Oh, cool. Yeah, let us know how that works out. Yeah, that'll be fun. They're doing really important work up there. I got a chance to talk to him. This is like, I don't know, seven, eight years ago, I think.

and he was talking about the sub-concussive blows that you get and what the difference is. And it's really just a spectrum. So there's no real way of being like, okay, this is a concussion and this is what's different from having a concussion as opposed to having like a minor brain bruise. It's just varying degrees of it. You know, like where you say the line is drawn varies depending on what doctor you're talking to. And it's just like a way to label it. But he was saying that when you sneeze, or not when he sneeze,

any time that you see stars after like a hit, which I've seen stars numerous times, that is a brain injury that you have. And it's a very specific reaction that your body has where you do see those stars and those like blinking lights. And that is on the spectrum of a concussion. I'm like, well, shit, like that happened to me. Yeah. Like I can't even count how many times it happened.

That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about there's, like, I totally believe that sub-concustive lows. I totally understand. And even those new guardian hats, I think I wish we wore those sometimes, especially in Pop Warner and practice when we did so much more hitting drills in, because that was before the period of the no contact practices. That was more something that came in high school for my generation. But in youth, we definitely did way too many hitting drills because we did like once a week

and it was just all hitting all that one practice. And then there was other. But with that, there was definitely times where the system, and it wasn't in football, it was more in other sports. Like sometimes people would get hit with a tennis ball. I mean, it was just, what I'm saying is not every hit to the head is a concussion that needs to be treated. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, more than anything, my ego was bruised. A lot of people saw me fall. Yeah. And it was raining and I got all wet. So where was this? It was across a canal street, like a very busy street. in New York. Are there any stores that have security cameras outside where we can find the footage?

No. Luckily, I was in like the, I was just crossing over like into Tribeca. So it was like the corner of like canal and the west side highway. Like it was like a back intersection. Yeah, that's that's pretty busy. I know. And it was like during rush hour and I just had to get up. And I was running late so I had to like get up. I couldn't even.

I was like in shock. I had to get up and run and then covered in like blood and rain. Did anybody talk to you? do anybody check on you? No, because there was no one outside of their car. It was just people like in their cars and then one construction worker and he just kind of like smirked at me and I was like, I was going to check on you but then I was like I was nervous and just walked away.

If I was a construction worker. That's what we do on our commutes into work here in this podcast. Yeah, no. But construction workers aren't saying anything to women nowadays at no cost. You know what? Yeah, that's the price of the Me Too movement guys is that women are out here getting concussions left and right left to die in the rain. and guys are afraid to see if they're okay

because they might get canceled from their insulation job on the job no that happens if you were like are you okay I wouldn't have taken that as a cat call I was like covered in blood and rain

okay leave me alone you fucking pervert he was like I wouldn't have taken it like that at that point let's let's talk about the phenomenon of cat calling real quick because I never really understood it Like let's just say I'm working outside at a job and a girl walks by and I just like whistle at her and then she just looks at. Am I expecting like her to be like, yo, what's up man? Thank you. Thank you for whistling. You want to fuck? Like what's what's the outcome? Why do you guys do that? Well. Get the rocks off. They're insane. It's weird. Isn't it? It's like a little animal. Their brain, their social norms is just something like connecting upstairs. I guess it's the.

And usually I think when you're in a group of dudes to show dominance. It's like a pack. When you're in a pack of fellas, that's what I've seen that happen to most. I never really seen a dude solo. Like, I mean, I guess there's probably instances where it has happened. But most is just, it's just, it's, I loathe it. I think I told the story one time before on this project, but like, I never did it because I was like eight years old and I was walking with my mom

and it was at a bus stop. And like some dudes was like cat calling her. And that day was big. There's bigger to me. And thinking back now, it's probably like five to six. But like, there's bigger to me. And I was scared of shit. And my mom was scared.

You know what I'm saying? And so ever since I never did, though. It's a corny shit in the world, bro. Just go out of it. I actually saw it very recently last week in Italy. It's a big thing to go chau bella. That's all the Italian men. They'll say chaubella's a woman.

So it's like, is it Italian or pervers? like it's sometimes very cultural it's cultural it's cultural in Italy yeah yeah in America though it's just gross it's so weird oh so it's okay in Italy no I haven't been to to detest it it sounds better chaube chabella yeah way more welcoming than everything's up like damn bitch yeah yeah they always say bitch it's like well shut up also there's there's another thing which is really creepy that I I witnessed where there's like this hissing noise that's something happens

Have you guys ever? I would not love to be hissed at It's like I've never heard that That is Okay so One time I was working on a job site Did you hiss?

I did not hiss But people were trying to teach me How to hiss Because it would be very It was Like if you really want to get laid You can't be You can't be just holler at him

No basically It can make it sound like a snake They love that I'm actually or do dolphin clicks they really like that I'm actually not going to tell this story

because it's definitely it's definitely it's too problematic make you sound like perfect already no because I'll tell this now you know I'm just going to walk back this story

perfect all right if you want to have a fun time with a child this is totally unrelated you tell them you would stop guess what and no there's nothing to do with that

I do this with kids all the time. I do some kids all the time. I say, guess what animal the sound is? And you just do this, like you go, ah, and you do, is it a sheep or a dolphin? And then whatever they guess, just say it's the opposite. And they'll keep coming back. Arias. You did this with me and Billy like a month ago.

Oh, fuck was I drunk. When we were on that Instagram live after we went to the Yankees game, you literally did that with me and Billy. I do that to kids all the time, though. I'm a bad And they get to a fight Over whether it's a A dolphin or not Yeah

They just keep coming back And then like if there's more kids They're like I'm next I'm next I'm gonna get it It's the funnest in the world I like that You just did that to two 23 year olds

And Did it work? Did you all guess? Yeah And then you said No it's the other one You're like what No way

Um Samount Everest Let's talk about Everest The big one So Mount Everest may be the highest altitude above mean sea level, but it is not technically the largest mountain from base to peak. Okay, I got you. So it's the highest point in the world, but it's not if you just look at the mountain itself. It's the highest point in the world from sea level, but is not technically the farthest point on earth from the center of the earth.

yeah this is this is fascinating to me okay so mount everis from the mean sea level is 29,000 in 29 feet actually that is debated because Everest every year grows four millimeters because of tectonic shape tectonic plate movement okay so it's still getting bigger yeah but there's two other mountains mount chimborazo which is actually the farthest from the center of the earth because it exists on the equator, which, because of central, okay, central fugal forces, did I say that right? Centrifugal? Centrifugal. That's a hard one. Because there's also a centripetal. Yeah. It's a hard. That's a hard one. Give you a break there. But the earth is, I'm not even going to try. The earth is not shaped like a perfect sphere. It's shaped like from the side. It almost looks like

oval. It bulges a little bit. It bulges at the equators. And because of that, Mount Chimborazo is the farthest point on earth from the center of the earth. Nice. This is farther versus further. I like it. Mm-hmm. And then there is this one's in Hawaii.

Mount Kia in Moana Kia is 33,500 feet from top to bottom, but the bottom is underwater. Right. And it's a dormant volcano. But for our definition of tallest mountain, Mount Everest is definitely the biggest because it is also higher than both of those from the surface of the earth, sea level.

But that's just fascinating that there are other mountains that are technically could be argued to be taller than Mount Everest. Okay, but Mount Everest is still the highest stuff that you get. The highest point. Yeah. Highest point. It has the, in this is mentioned, it has the highest atmospheric lack of oxygen, altitude. two thinnest air. So it does beat out the other two in that area. So for perspective, if you're flying on a plane, if you're going like cross country, you're probably at about 33,000 feet,

I would guess for most of your cruising altitude. Yep. So looking down, that's how tall Mount Ever, you would fly into the top of Mount Everest. Yeah. Also, you can't fly helicopters as high as Mount Everest because the air is too thin. Yep. So that was also fascinating. I was actually last night I was in an F-16 eagle and I was just cruising around about 45,000 feet and I was looking down. I was like, damn, this thing, I'm really far high up right now. Did you check out Mount Everest? Well, I was traveling at about Mach 1.9, so I was really calling ass at the moment.

So, no, I was in Syria. I think I was... That's pretty close to Mount Everest. I should just go to, well, not really, but I... Well, how long it take you to get to Mount Everest from Syria? If you're going two times the speed of sound? Yeah. my guess would be a couple hours like probably only three three or four hours maybe that's not that like

you have time i do have time yeah but mount everis is located between nepal and tibet i'm going to say tibet uh those are the two countries that um border mount everis each of the border the border is actually the top mount everis the north side is tibet Tibetanese and the south side's nepalise and those two um countries were the ones that inhabited that region. They have very, the people there are actually extremely unique in that they, in the Sherpers are examples of this. They have extremely high tolerance to the altitude. So there's been studies that their genetics causes them to be better able to breathe in that altitude, higher red blood cell counts to supply oxygen to their body. and that's why they're the best guides up Mount Everest.

So very interesting group of people. They have a huge religious connotation to Mount Everest. They think it is the home of the gods. And they're very angry about the state of Mount Everest, which we'll get into later. Yeah, the guest that we have coming up, Colin O'Brady, he's summoned Everest a couple times. He's been on all the highest peaks in the world.

And he's got some insight because he's seen firsthand what the state of the mountain is. But I really got into Mount Everest back in like, let's say, 2011 when I read into thin air, which you should read. Everybody should read it if you're into like nonfiction books. It's fascinating. It's about a doomed expedition that went up Everest because Mount Everest had become, what's the word for? Like commercialized almost where there were guide companies that were springing up where they're like, hey, as long as they're in decent shape and you get to Mount Everest. If you get to base camp, we can, if you pay. us enough money, we can make sure that you get to the top of it. It became so commercialized

for a while. And there were way too many people on the mountain that had no business being there. And when you're up at that type of elevation, your body starts to die. And your brain suffers from lack of oxygen. You go into hypoxia, which means that you start hallucinating. You start getting lost, confused. It's actually pretty similar to having a severe concussion. And you just do things that don't make sense. You take off your mask. You take off your gloves. You go walking just off the side of a mountain because sometimes it's white out conditions and just you wander off. It sounds terrifying. And there was a gigantic disaster that happened up there where many people lost their lives. And the book is a really, really interesting chronicling that. So go check that

out if you haven't read it yet. But since then, they've tried to cut back on that a little bit because that was a major wake-up call. But we've all seen that picture at the top of Mount Everest where there's a giant line where people like have to wait to get up to the summit. And the Summitting times are just so precise that if you wait an hour too late or you go an hour too early, you get caught in a storm. You're pretty much dead at the summit. So there's a two o'clock rule that you have to summit by two o'clock. So a lot of people who are still walking up and they're, you know, 10, even 10 meters away from the summit at like 150, they have to turn around because if they get there too late and you know, let's say they summit at 215, it's more than likely

that on their way down they're going to hit darkness they're going to hit storms that come in with the lowering temperatures at night and it's a very it's you know even though it is visited and it only has a one percent death rate nowadays because over you know nine thousand people have some there's something extreme amount only about uh since in modern times only about 300 have died um but all 300 of those bodies are still on the mountain yeah i'm doing the math in my head right now i think that's the average death rate is about one percent i know that the math is it harder to get into hamburg university than it is to die on mount hamburg yeah that's the big question but yeah but mount everest was uh it created it was great when the subcontinent of india which is now

india actually hit asia and what happened is you had two tectonic plates hitting causing the mountains to spring up from between those because they had no all that rock had nowhere to go when those two plates hit causing the Himalayan mountain range which is you know the largest mountains in the world and they separate Indian China with two with Nepal and Tibet in between Tibet is now technically part of China but it was once an independent country so if you look back on the history of mountains. When you think of like the Appalachian Mountains in the United States, they're pretty. People just know like, oh, these are some gorgeous mountains. They look nice. They actually used to be the tallest mountain range of the world way back in the day. But because of shifting tectonic plates,

they got smaller. They got flattened out through erosion, also through the continents drifting. But at one point, they were taller than the Himalate. They were the tallest mountain range in the entire world. also do you know that there's the same string of mountains as the appellation mountains there's part of it in scotland they're originally together but because of tectonic plates they're now separated i did not know that like pangia yeah yeah pangea i'll trip you out um mount everest is named after the surveyor general of india george everest uh the nepalese name that's a good classic indian name nepoise george Yeah. He was once pointed there, colonialism. The Nepali name is Saga Martha, Sagar Matha.

That's a way cooler name, meaning the head of great blue sky. Likewise, the Tibetan name is Chomo Lungpa, meaning holy mother. Both cooler names. Yeah. No, never. I don't think, like, I'm not trying to like tear down Georgia Everest statue because it sounds like, you know, he did a great job of walking up to it and be like, that Mount Royal. That is very tall. also crazy very tall and deep crazy so they named the whole fucking thing

after them but just objectively speaking Sagarmatha and what was the other one Chomo lungpa Chomo lungpa Those are cooler names

Just like when they change When they change Denali from McKinley to Denali Denali is a way cooler name I think even Sarah Palin was like Yeah we call it Denali up here Wait is Mount McKinley

not called that anymore Sorry not not McKinley My miss yeah maybe it was Wait wait Donal Mount McKinley is the one in Alaska. Yeah, it's called Denali now.

When did that happen? Happened, Obama. No, that makes sense. Thanks, Obama. Obama did it. But isn't Denali cooler? That's the name of the National Park that's up there. Naming dispute.

The name of Mount McKinley was subject to local criticism. Yeah, it was. It was the locals that wanted to change it. Like, Alaskans wanted to change it. Because McKinley, like, would McKinley do as president? He got shot. He got shot. He had AIDS

You guys I guess it's good that I know now I didn't know what changed it I don't think that's a common When I don't think that's a common Outside of our circles That audio clip It might not be

So yes sir It's the former Clippers owner Who was just going off Donald Sterling Oh no no I remember that now Yeah yeah yeah You're talking about black folk Yeah

an average Everest climber needs 35 hours of bottled oxygen that was one of the big reasons why summoning Everest became much easier than originally was because bottled oxygen and oxygen tanks became the technology was updated and they're being mass produced so audio books yeah exactly um i want to i want to i want to fact check myself because i don't want to i don't want to smear sarah palin's good name she in fact was not in favor of the name change I was about to say that didn't sound right. Yeah, I didn't... She said, the Middle East is a tinderbox.

Our economy still sucks. Our economy still sucks. So many things are going wrong right now that are under his purview. And yet he would kind of make it a big darn deal to come up here and rename a mountain. That's a lot of the criticism. So that's what she said. Then Lisa Murkowski, who's a Republican senator from Alaska, said that she has long advocated for Denali to officially be called Denali. And she thanked President Obama for the decision.

So I think... I remember reading at the time that there was a majority of people that lived in Alaska that wanted it to be renamed as Denali. But Everest, I guess it's still called Everest for now. I might call it Sagramotha, though, because that's way sweeter. I thought Everest was like, because Everest is a, maybe it's just because it's been so embedded in, you know, our lexicon in that we think Everest means tall just by word association. but ever rest I always thought like it was some Latin equivalent word

that meant like ever high or something or like never rest the most ever like the Everest yeah exactly like not a name when I found I just found out it was a name and I was like yeah like the Everest like the mostest

yeah I mean I actually don't think that Everest is a bad name for it I think that it's a fine name but just when you put it up against the competition I don't think it's really a contest yeah so isn't that what we're about as Americans. Good old fashion competition. Leave it to the polls. Um, yeah. So, uh, Everest has because there's been so many people summoning it and because it is so cold, uh, there's a lot of

trash, yellow snow and feces on the mountain because when you're climbing it, you can't carry your poop with you. And because of that, uh, a lot of mountain climbers have been leaving dropping on the mountain is now a new legislation that you have to bring your poop with you or pick it up on the way back down. How's that being enforced? Well, I think the Sherpas who guide it are now like, yeah, this is a problem. So there's got to be mountain law, right? Once you reach a certain point where there's no law enforcement up there, there have to be

different rules, right? It's like, take care of yourself. The rules for all sorts of stuff up there, I'm sure, are different. There's a lot of gray area once you're in the death zone. If I was risking my life to climb this mountain, I would not be concerned with what was happening with my shit. Just me. Yeah. Exactly.

Like, who's, they're going to rent you a ticket? Yeah, go for it, pal. Yeah, good luck. Find a jury of repairs. Is it that it's so cold, it's not biodegradable? Yeah, I mean, it's frozen. If you take shit and put in your freezer, it's, nothing's really happening to it. I need to try.

I can't argue with that. I mean, no, I'm going to trust the science on that one. Okay, yeah, new science fair project for next year. Is shit biodegradable? What is that? I'm going to freeze a piece of my shit for a year. What's that Alaskan, you know, that'd be awesome if a kid did that for the science fair project in elementary school.

Because objectively, you could learn something scientific. It would be a very educational thing, but like have a big white board set up. And it's like, okay, here in this jar, my piece of shit. I kept frozen. What is that urban dictionary term that involves putting shit in your freezer? I don't know. Oh, my God.

This used to be one of the ones where we first discovered urban dictionary. It was like, I think it's like an Alaskan bullworm. No, it's not. That's the SpongeBob thing. But it's something ridiculous. But yeah, I guess maybe avalanches and wind blowing might affect the poop. But I don't think anything else is happening to it. Okay, let's see here.

Let's take a cruise down. involves a condom. All right. So there's one called the Alaskan pipeline. That's it. The act of pooping into a condom. Freezing it overnight

and then inserting it into one's anus. Billy left that part out of it. Yeah, completely left out. What the fuck? No. Okay, let's see. Space talking. This involves two people.

One person takes a big long poop and wraps it in plastic wrap. Then you put it in the freezer when frozen take out and insert into the other's anus. It's called space talking. We're children of the internet. And when Urban Dictionary was discovered. Wait, I'm not done yet.

The Alaskan pipeline. No, that's the one in your butthole. I did discuss that one. The other one is, oh, there's a variation of the Alaskan pipeline. When a guy takes a shit, puts in the freezer, and then the girl uses it as a dildo. We got to stop this. Yeah, we can move on. Okay.

I guess I'm the only one who's on Urban Dictionary. Igloving. No, yeah, let's go. To shit into an ice. Yeah, ice cream, an ice cream tub. I thought this would be more of a shared experience. Turns out it isn't, sorry. Just you, Bill.

Yeah. Just you don't. The first Europeans of Sub in Everest was... Did you do any of those things? No, it was more, no, it was like, it was like just one of those internet things you found. They were like, oh, it's funny. I don't think anyone's ever done that. Sir Edmund Hillary

Summited Has anybody ever jacked off On top of Mount Everest Well if you take your dick out It gets frostbite It freezes right off There's got to be away though I mean under

That must be the best feeling ever Because it's kind of like you're getting choked out Right No you're getting choked out Through the lack of oxygen Asphyxiation Yeah Imagine if you're a Sherpa

And you're like guiding this guy he's just like that's the next level thousand times and then the guy just gets to the top he's like yeah we're here he went picture I want to just goes no I want to do the seven summits but we're a jack off on top of all of them what am I talking about

where are we I lost my place I got distracted it's okay picture and PFT rub one out and fucked you up bro no no just like the idea of like

so like Sherp is like taking someone up the mountain. He's like, oh, this is another regular, you know, Everest summoning. You're like, oh, we'll take a picture and go back down there. It's like, no, I got to do this. It's got to be one of the scariest places, though, when you're up on the mountain and you're suffering from all that hypoxia and even the most clear-headed people aren't thinking totally clearly, death is all around you. I just, I never understood the drive of anybody to want to climb it. It doesn't really appeal to me that much. So, Sir, Edmund Hillary, summoned Mount Everest with

Sherpa named Tenzing Norgay He's the goat by the way The goat and honestly Norgay definitely deserves way more props than Hillary Yeah 100%. I mean So Norgae took him all the way to the top

And then let him go first Yeah And should we say do we know Was Sir Edmund Hillary the first person to summit Or was he the first person That talked about summit? There's a debate There was a party that tried to summit

Before him in 1920 and they found their bodies on the side of the mountain, but they don't know if that was on the way up or down. So it's, and they're looking for the guy's camera, which they can't find. But that guy's name is, I'll find it a second,

but because- Camera kind of sucked. Well, they lost it. So if they had a picture of them at the summit, then they knew they were on the way down. So they either died going up or going down. They don't know.

Okay. So Sir Edmund Hillary, uh, sir, by the queen, you know, may have not been the actual first person. Okay, so let's talk about Sir Edmund Hillary. He was a Kiwi. Yeah, New Zealander, adventurer.

He did it. Do you think that the Sherpas like taking people up the mountains, or you think they're like, these guys are crazy, but they pay a lot of money? Well, they pay them like, I think today it's $5,000 a summoning, and they're just doing it easy. I feel like it should be more than that. Yeah, but I think that they're, You know, it's almost, they've been doing it so much to, like, commercialize it.

Mm-hmm. But he was, there was a lot of guys at this time trying to, you know, get to the South Pole, get to the North Pole. But he was like, I'm going to try to summit Mount Everest. And he was the first to do it. So many people had died trying to do it. He was in the Army, in the Royal New Zealand Air Force, in the Air Force, not Army. and he ascended many of the highest peaks of New Zealand and he was also with a British reconnaissance expedition to Everest led by Eric Shepton and then he was finally in the successful British attempt of 1953 so it wasn't his first time there but the most interesting thing I found about his going to Everest was he was a big proponent of the just trying to discover if the yeti was real so he actually is quoted as to seeing footprints and have cited seeing the yeti himself in one of his assents but the debate is was he trying to get funding from different scientific societies to keep letting him do expeditions to the himalayas with like oh you've already climbed the mountain why would you want to go back he was like well there might be

the abominable snowman there. Yeah. So he was a huge Yeti proponent. It's actually, it's a genius plan if that's the case. So that's, that might be why a lot of these guys such as Graham Hoyland, a mountaineer who also climbed and thinks he saw, he saw Yeti prints himself. In the 1960s, the existence of the Yeti was not considered like crazy. A lot of people thought, because the locals spoke about it a lot and scientific journals were trying to just figure out was the yeti real the himalayas was one of those places that because it was not accessible that it still had that mystique about it that you know sailors had about different parts of the ocean or you know people had where monsters lie used to be written on maps and the himalayas was one of those places

that people didn't know if the yeti existed so it might have been a way to sort of get funding to do these expeditions, but Hillary, we could get in, we could do a whole podcast on Yetis, but Sir Edmund Hillary thought the Yeti was real. Okay. Or at least he lied about it to the rich people he wanted to take money from. Yeah, that is also true. Definitely, definitely was Kevin. Yeah. But, you know, the locals had abominable snowman in their, in their lore. So, they did. Who knows? Um, if the Yeti was real, like, what was, what was the driving force behind these guys giving him a bunch of money to go find the yeti was it like find it kill it and bring it back no there's actually on display there was a law passed uh about they were

trying to capture it alive so uh there was a they they put together a yetty law yety law yeah so i think billy if you find it you're allowed to kill it. That's my Heddy law. The sheer amount of firepower taken along by the explorers demonstrates a significant sense of caution toward the animal that might or might not exist. Their armory included capture guns, capable of firing tranquilizer darts as well as rifle, shotguns, tear gas pistols, and light arms. None of us particularly wanted to shoot one, wrote Dogue, but we carried conventional rifles and self-defense. His most accounts of the Yeti describe it as

being savage in the extreme. Hmm. The group would, so this was the group he sent that he was in that went to search for the Yeti. The group would study local stories, tracks, and relics reported to be Yeti body parts in order to establish or disprove the legend. Our ambition, of course, was to capture a live snowman. Hillary seemed more skeptical.

I think there is precious little in civilization to appeal to a Yeti, Hillary reports him saying. So, oh, so here. the here's the law um the nepali government's official 1947 memo outlining the etiquette of a yetty hunt republished in the american embassy in catmandu in 1959 and issued to hilary's party as regulations covering mountain climbing expeditions in nepal relating to yeti it stipulates that the search for yetis required a permit and that a yeti could not be killed except in self-defense Edmund Hillary might set off

in search of the Emboddle Snowman then was not wild conspiracy theory baiting stories it would appear to be today Yeah so they thought Encountering a wild Yeti was considered A very real possibility Like there was laws about this

The Yeti was not just How we think of it They thought there's a Yeti out there Mm-hmm So Hey I don't know There's a lot of magic at Everest

And it could be a snowman I guess there's some Maverick, magic, where Maverick came from. There's some magic about it, but I'm going to say, I hope that Yeti's real, but it's definitely not. Although, so they're basically, because there's no, like, animals to eat, we're talking about the poop not being able to disintegrate, and, you know, it's because there's no living thing on the top of my universe. Yeah, they find Yeti poop? Yeah, they would. Oh, did I just poke a giant hole in the Yeti theory? I don't know. I like to believe in the Yeti.

It's like, why? Because you know how when you're a kid? Because it's big. You know when it's when you're a kid and like it's Christmas and Santa Claus? Like Santa Claus, believing in Santa Claus made Christmas. But as a child, believing in Santa Claus wasn't doing so in the face of a knowledge that he wasn't real. You were just told he was real and you didn't know better. Also, Billy is 23 years old.

Yeah. So there's a little bit of. Like you're told that Santa exists. You're a small child and present show up one day a year. So you're like, oh, that makes sense. You know that this thing isn't real and you're choosing to believe in anyway. But if the Yeti's out there, like, it's just nice to believe in those things. Sorry, I'm the only one on a conspiracy podcast that says cover-ups conspiracies and cryptids.

And I'm the only one who wants to believe in cryptids. Sorry, guys. Yeah. Yeah. You are. I mean, it'd be cool. We talk about it. It doesn't know to believe a shit.

Well, I don't believe it, but there was gigantopithecus. Well, because here's the thing, if there would be more than one, then wouldn't just be one. There would be a breeding population of Yetis, but they would probably be living in a complex cave system that was warm and allowed them to survive. I mean, there is historical context for a large ape in that area, gigantopithecus. Okay. Gigantopithecus was a very large ape that lived in southern China and in mountainous regions, much like the Himalayas. and throughout time if they finally found a spot

that could support them unbothered by humans who most likely hunted them to the extinction because having a King Kong-sized ape living near you wasn't the best you know best for property

values so they probably push them off their land and persecuted not if you're a libertarian back then but yeah no so actually gigantopithecus is fascinating it is literally King Kong

that is yeah it is fire to think about. Like, if you Google some pictures of Gigantopithecus, they were the biggest chillers ever. They had red hair. And what's funny is a lot of the accounts of the Yeti say that he had red hair

and Gigantopithecus is now known to have red hair. It's ginger? Not a ginger, but more of that orangutan-type-type color. Gigantopithic was closely related to orangutans more so than like chimps or gorillas. We're more related to chimps.

So, gigantic antipithkas is still a cousin, but he's, you know, like a second cousin. All right. So here's a fun fact about Mount Everest. We were pronouncing it incorrectly. Did you know that? Yeah. Mountain Everest. It's like Evrest.

Evrest. Yeah, that's how the guy's name was pronounced. Not Everest. It's Everest. That's the correct way. It costs $40,000 to $80,000 to rescue a corpse on Everest. They just leave the bodies up there. It's too dangerous.

It's too expensive. Well, that's also the same price that it costs to go up Mount Everest. Everest. 40 to 80,000? Something like that, yeah. If you want to pay like all in to get there, pay for the Sherpas, pay for the equipment, I think you have to get an apartment too. You can't go Dolo?

You got a head at Little Sheppero? Yeah. Yeah. So this one Sherpa, Camille, Rita, K-A-M-I-R-I-T-A, has climbed at Mount Everest the most times. He was a Sherpa guide who reached the summit for the 25th time on May 7th, 2021. So he breaks his own record, which he held in May 2018. Well, Colin, the guy that we have on the show, he went alone, right? That's what it sounded like. I think he was with a group.

Yeah. because he was with that Brazilian woman No, no, no. He said he met her at the base camp and then found her up at the top. But the way he described it going against like the British guy, he was by himself, I think. Well, the British guy, that was... That was Antarctic.

Yeah, was that Antarctica. Are you getting mixed up? Yeah, apparently. He's been in a lot of places. But I think he also went up with his wife, which is more times than we've done that. Would you rather... Because he's going to get into this a little bit about climbing him out with your wife and what it's like. bringing somebody that you know you love and that you're sworn to protect and all this stuff

I would argue you don't love them yeah would you rather take your wife to Mount Everest or take your wife uh to Nick Cannon's house I'll go to Nick Cannon's house man wait drop her off what happens in Nick Cannon's house she'll get pregnant buddy drop her off at Nick Cannon's house for like two days be like I'll pick you up later I would argue Nick Cannon's house What the hell is me? You would rather take her to Nick Cannon? Yeah.

Yeah. At least she probably won't die. She's not going to die. Who's Nick? What? I mean, I know Nick Cannon, but what happens in his house? Oh, he gets every single girl he looks at pregnant. He's like, he gets a lot of people pregnant.

And I've gotten a lot of people pregnant this year? This year? He's had eight children this year? No, no, no. He's had eight children. I think he's had five, four this year? Three this year? Definitely at least three kids this year.

Yeah. Yeah. How, wait, how many kids does he have in whole? Eight. I think eight. He just had one last week. Or not him. He's eight and all.

He's got powerful sperm. What can I say? So Nick Cannon just has gone on a run this year. He had his eight kids and he's at all eight this year? No. I think it's eight in total. And he's like four this year. Eight kids.

I mean, okay. Having eight kids, there's plenty of people in his, like my, my grandfather was one of 15. Like that's not that crazy. Right. But three, Billy, do the math, though. If you have three or four kids in a year, it's probably going to be with three or four different women in the same year. You can't be fucking.

Yeah, but it's not crazy. You know who I respect Antonio Cromarty? Yeah, Cromartie is way more kids. Cromarty, but like his wife she was like, okay, I'm done. She must be a saint. Well, he got a vasectomy. Yeah, she made him get a vasectomy or they agreed to get a vasectomy.

After he had the vasectomy, he got his wife pregnant with twins. Through vasectomy. Yeah. Jesus. The boy got this. super spurn yep um you need some more fun facts about mount everest billy um don't you're going to hit me with mechanic book fun facts no um so this was about the team of so mallory was the group

that tried to summit in 1924 a team of climbers discovered mallory's remains on the high slopes of everest the body did little to reveal whether or not he'd actually reached the top and unfortunately the team's camera was not found amongst his gear it was believed that urban Irvin Mallory, was actually carrying the camera when he made their ascent and that device could hold the photographic evidence of their success or failure. To date, Irvin's body and the camera has not been found or it has ever been uncovered. It could potentially change mountaineering history forever. That would kind of suck if you're Sir Edmund, Hillary.

So when you get up there, we've talked about how nothing is this thing called the timber line where no trees, no plants can even grow. Then there's the death zone, which is when bodies stop. or start dying, stop living, up to 19,000, so pretty much 20,000 feet, 19,685 feet, you will still find a snow leopard and a Himalayan yak up there. Yeah. Just like chilling. Yeah, yaks are, yaks were, so the Sherpas love to use yaks to get up to certain base camps.

That's how a lot of the base camps were formed because yaks were the only ones that could deal with the cold and the altitude out of, like, any type of animal. be it a donkey, mule, horse, any of those. There's a couple of base camps on Everest. There's two Everest base camps on opposite side of the mountain. There's the south base camp, which is in Nepal, and there is a north base camp, which is in Tibet. There's also a Himalayan jumping spider that lives at 22,000 feet.

That's crazy. Imagine getting bit by a spider. When you're like 7,000 feet away from the summit, I would be, I would turn around here. The craziest part about that is what does the spider eat if it's the only thing that lives that high? Each other. Well, then there would only be one spider in the end. Is that how it would work?

Well, you know that Rad Island story? But they have, they give birth to so many others. Like, have you ever seen spider's eggs? I mean, but how they'd end up eating instead of breathing. What if there's just one giant spider up there? Because it ate all the other ones. or like one spider feeds a whole bunch of spider feed one major spider like

how to change the dragon you seen that one I have yeah it's a great movie they all they all just work to feed the big dog so a lot of mountaineers say that K2 is actually harder to summit than Everest a lot of people are talking shit about Everest say Everest is overrated it's past its prime overrated past its prime

just literally just chill in there doing its thing could you imagine people at the bottom of everest like overrated they got like signs Everest hasn't played anybody MJ better I mean every it is a Mickey Mouse situation because they basically did

set up a resort on the mountain it's kind of been ran through but no that is a fact that K2 is by far a more dangerous mountain. So K2, I think it's somewhere between 25 and 33% of people that try to climb it have died. Yeah. That's a much higher death rate than Everest. Yeah, it's like steeper. It's a cousin of Everest. Yeah, it's pretty close by. It's also just a badass name to K2. K2. K2. K2. I mean,

isn't that the drug? Yeah, the spice. Yeah. Why they call it K2? I don't know. Huh. What has a higher death rate K2 spice or K2 the mountain. Definitely K2 the mountain. Death rate of K2. You know how many people out there smoking gas station weed? 25%. Hmm. Of K2? Well, the mountain. The mountain. Yeah. There's some crazy terrifying videos of people climbing K2. Sometimes I watch them. There's crazy videos of people smoking K2. There are. Then they turn into zombies. In 2005, the Nepalese couple, Moni Mulapati and Pemdorje got married on top of Mount Everest Yeah

Imagine getting that invitation For the destination Hey, we're going to go all the way To the top of Mount Everest Sorry, nope, not me I'll get you a nice gift Oh, Aaron, you're muted Yeah, my bad

I had a joke but it's too late now Just run it back, just run it back What's going to say I was going to get you a thermos For your wedding present But it's too late It would have hit if it was on time got like eight seconds.

Did they bring a preacher with them? Or they just have one of their climbing friends become an efficient. Yeah, just go to Jamaica. Everybody could get out of the cold for a little bit. So there are no age restrictions

if you climb from the Chinese side. Tibetan side, it's 16. The youngest person to summit Everest was 13. his name was something Romano This is Italian Sorry

Yeah I kind of like that Jordan Romero It's like if you're dumb enough To try the mountain Just go for it Just open rules on the mountain There's a store

So honestly I know this sounds Pretty cocky But I kind of think that We could do it Everest Like as an us Like this group of us Yeah.

You think we could climb Mount Everest? I mean, there's, there's a, most people who climb, like, a lot of people who climb Everest are super old. Like, the oldest person to do was, like, in their 80s. I'm still going to pass. That makes sense, though, when you 80, you like, you know what, dog, I don't really got. There's not much else to do. Rather die, I die. Yeah, rather go out that way.

I bet if you die on the summit, they move you. Yeah, that would. They just throw you off. Well, there's this guy, they use, like, you can't ruin the summit for everybody else. They use the, get a little kick. Yeah, they used the, oh, he fell. They used the bodies as, uh, damn it, damn it, Bill, you left, you left the banana peel up here. This poor bastard took a nasty spill.

Um, they used the bodies as, uh, landmarks. So there's a very famous guy, uh, who wore green boots and green boots guy, you always see going up the trail and they use it as like he's a landmark yeah yeah so oh that's yeah because their bodies are like preserves huh yeah dude they're not it's like i mean not actually bad comparison but they don't disintegrate oh you're about to say awesome he's about to say they're like to shit wow billy i didn't know that like i'm just saying they're so two holy carbon no i'm not thing two carbon-based objects are not going to disintegrate under those conditions. Same stuff?

Star-Dest. I was, yeah. So, was it meaning like that? So another, another interesting fact, a blind person, climb Mount Everest. Yeah, I'm starting to think that we used to climb. Oh, come on, man. Come on, man. What?

Did they prove this person was blind? Come, this feels like a Helen Keller scenario to me. I think Ellen Keller's blind. I'm not, I'm not, uh, she wasn't like. We should do an episode on her. Yeah, we should, I got some, I got some issues about. Well, she may have been, she may have been blind and deaf, but she wasn't like doing all the things that the person who wrote the book said she was doing. I heard Helen Keller had white privilege.

What does that mean? I'm just kidding. Do you see that one day on Twitter when people were talking about, uh, Helen Keller having white privilege? You're talking about Anne Frank. I'm talking about Anne Frank. Different person. And Frank had white privilege. One person said it and then everybody was like, this is insane. Yeah.

I got to look into that. Yeah. Well, here's what's going to happen. You're going to get mad and you'll be like, these libs. There's nothing that you can say anymore that makes me mad. We have a segment called teed off. Yeah, but those are like, ha ha. Yo, what's the tweet, bro?

Hey, pull the tweet up, man. Okay, I'm trying to find it. And it was deleted. It was... Oh, they delete? Is there a screenshot? Well, there's a screenshot. It was pretty ridiculous.

Okay, so this guy, his name is Eric Weyenmeyer, and he's born in 1968. At 15 months old, he was diagnosed with juvenile retinoscis, with blindness, the expected outcome by age 13. And so he started to go blind, and he fought against using canes and learning braille. He wanted to hang on to his life in the sighted world, and then at age 16, he started to use a guide dog. So this would have been a pretty big long con for him to be like, to pretend to be blind from the age of 15 months. So him and his dog went up there solo? I don't think he had his dog. He went up there solo?

He went up there. I'm sure he went up there with a group of people. Oh, so he was guided. Okay. I thought you just made. He just traversed the shit by himself. No, like most people, I'd say just about. 100% of people that summit Mount Everest go in some sort of a team because you have you have

to have people to secure ropes you have to have people to take pull the ropes out you have to have people to secure the ladders you have to have people that um pull up certain ladders i don't know if they pull them up but there's a lot of like stuff that you have to do to get through the dangerous parts that you can't do just as one person bruh you talk about complete trust in somebody yeah you lead me up mount everest i got to trust you man yeah that's That's heavy trust. I don't have any trust in a human. There's a video, if you want to get freaked out of this team that's going through.

We talk with Colin about this in a little bit about some of the ice falls that they have there and the different ladders that you have to walk across. But there's a video online that you can watch of this person trying to cross one of the ladders. So you're wearing your mountaineering shoes. So they've got spikes and stuff on them. They're not exactly meant to be used on a ladder necessarily. but you have to walk across these big gaps on a ladder and there's a video of this person misstepping falling off the side

they get caught by one of the safety ropes and then it takes like three people to have to pull them up as they're dangling like 500 feet above just well it looks like an infinitely black chasm underneath you so you can't even see the bottom and they get pulled up at the end they get saved but still it's terrifying to watch that was on the side of the that was there's various ways to get up everest and that was on like the the dangerous side that doesn't make sense i don't know why we could definitely do the the basic ass everest climb up

nope i cannot that mentality that billy has right there is deeply explored in the book into thin air of overconfident people thinking that they can take on mount everest you should you're basically a main character in that book he dies but they had that was a freak accident not really freak I mean, you're on a deadly mountain. Everything that happens is a freak accident. I know, but, like, seeing some of these people who've done it, it's kind of like, if you choose the right day, right weather, stay there. No, there's still all sorts of stuff that can happen to you on this climb.

Right, right, of course. That's beyond your control. And I guess you can describe it as a freak accent, but there are freak accidents that happen all the time. I know, but I, like, once I got there, mountain in there, like, I'm in the talk myself into it stage where I always talk myself into it. And then once I'm in there, I got to do it stage. And I'm like, oh, fuck, this could happen, this could happen, this could happen. And then I freak out and then I'm extra cautious when I do it. You should not do this.

I'm not going to do it. I'll bet you $100,000 you will never climb on Everest. You know what? Maybe it might happen. What if I put $100,000 cash on the table? Say, within a year, 12 months? Well, if I had the funding. And you'd feel like shit for killing building.

Would I? if I had the funding I mean imagine how imagine the downloads the podcast would get though oh it'd be lit Billy calling in from a satellite phone I mean can we send me to the live tour first it made me do dangerous things

you just want to go on that plane and see the falcons yeah no if like something like climbing Everest if you know Barstool were to give me the funding to do it I think I absolutely could do it

would you though That's what I'm asking. Well, it depends if you guys like, yeah, you can take off the podcast and go. Well, hell the fuck, yeah. What, yeah, if you're allowed to, like, are you saying like you'd see this as a vacation? Oh, 100. I mean, you'd still have to be calling in and doing the show. Yeah, yeah, I would be doing the show.

I would be doing everything. But, like, basically it's kind of one of those things. This is funny because it's going to be worth, like, financing Billy's trip to Mount Everest. This is funny because it gives you a little insight into Billy's brain where he is willing to climb one of the most dangerous mountains in the entire world, risk. his life if it means that he can take like two months off of doing his job. That's not what I'm saying. I would still do it but like if I still had to like run the TikTok while I was in Everest and like do this and do that

like blog. Dude like Billy if you think that you're climbing on Everest and you're not creating TikToks while you're doing it, you're insane. Has there ever been a TikToker? For me that's that would be more impressive. Yeah. Actually but the thing is like a blind person climbing Mount Everest, yeah whatever. I would probably had a lot of help you know like he was a train

mountaineer. If a TikToker climbs Mount Everest that's that my friends is Do you do a TikTok dance on the fucking top of Everest? Bring Jackson Mahomes. No, honestly, the hardest part would be I'd be wearing gloves all the time and not like the gloves that have like the typing on an iPhone thing. He's already making excuses. I'm not making excuses.

As to why he can't do his hypothetical job. I'm making TikToks on a trip he's not going to go on. I know, but like I definitely think I am. I would like really want to do it. But like those gloves, you know, you know how the gloves. You can't type. You can't type. and TikTok with the gloves on

but I think I could like a lot of old people do Everest I think I'm You got stopped this You got old people shaming man I'm not but I think I That's twice It's twice

There are a lot of There are a lot of female listeners That Arian wants to Oh yeah That you're insulting right now It's facts I think you can climb Everest But

Especially you ladies Over 60 If you guys Send me to Everest I'll absolutely climb Everest Okay, so now you're saying that you would do it I would want, I mean, I don't think I wouldn't think I'd have the opportunity, but if you guys

want to make, like, let me do it. The podcast is doing good, this podcast is doing good. Let's send Billy to Evers. Billy would definitely die on Evers. Yeah, everyone thought I was going to die in the ring with Jose Konseko. Evers is going to take a dive. Yeah, Jose Konseko versus Mount Everest. Very comparable things. I got, run the Twitter poll.

Macrodosing, send Billy to Mount Everest. Run a Twitter poll, Avery. I'll send it out tomorrow after the episode drops. People will have no context of why I just sent that tweet out if I did it right now. Definitely would like to do Kilimanjaro with Chris Long. He's been telling me I got to do that. But you would, so if we sent Billy to Mount Everest, would we let him, like, would we have a team go with them? Like what would?

I would have to do vlogging myself. No, no, no. But I, not a barstool team, not like a content team. Yeah, we'd send spider. Yeah. Like, would he go in a group? Or would we send him dole? I dolo would be

Nobody does it solo I could definitely do the hand Well the hand holding with the Sherpas I 100% could get Up there Like they have it so down packed They know exactly what like Think about it

I think Dave would go Dave and Billy Matt Everest Big Dave big Dave Big Dave You think Dave would go Yeah no chance I'm way too

Way too old for him Yeah It's a joke making jokes we're having fun I mean it's like what like 40 million years old um lit

I love it fucking lit yeah we'll get I mean yeah well what is the in plus the gas I mean the oxygen masks yeah well you would do it with oxygen

I would do with oxygen I take the easy route up I would wait till there's no. See, this exact mentality like calling it like the easy route. You definitely think it's way easier than it really is.

There's a lot that goes into mountain climbing that you have no idea. Well, I definitely prep. I definitely train. The easy route will still be the hardest thing you'll ever do. I know. You are not acting like you.

I did a 24 mile hike the other day with some serious altitude. My guy said, I walked for a long time. No, there was serious altitude. And I did it. on vacation like I definitely have the cardio

take that I definitely have the cardio if I have to get used to the cold completely different type of cardio when you don't have oxygen when there's you have oh you said oxygen listen to me even if you're using supplemental oxygen yeah you're still struggling to breathe with every breath

no matter how like the most experienced climbers in the world still struggle to breathe at the top of this mountain with oxygen but it takes 10 weeks to acclimate to the to the climate. So it takes 10 weeks to actually climb Everest because it takes a lot of time acclimating.

And then once you get used to the oxygen, then they let you go up there. There's tons. The reason I know I'm sounding super cocky about this, but there are ways that they, like the Sherpas know they have it down to a science. That's why there's so much trash up there because they have so many people up there

to get people up and down. Am I going to be in the 1%? Yes, if a sheet of ice falls on me. Yeah. Will I be on that mountain for the rest of eternity? probably depends on global warming um but i i think it's a definitely a gamble i'd be willing to take for a you know experience of the lifetime and for content okay well i'm thinking about it now like i wouldn't i would take it seriously thinking about sitting there you're the sherpas

problem do you think you bro out with the sherpas i'd bring the i'd bring the i'd bring the uh barstool sports book to to Catmandu you guys want to gamble on cricket grow the game Gurkhas are also from Nepal and they are one of the fiercest fighting forces of all time

they were positioned between Indian China and they called it being between the tiger and the dragon and they have maintained a sovereign state for centuries and some of the fiercest warriors Yeah it is crazy to think that

both Nepal and Bhutan is the other country that's there. Yeah. They're tiny little states or tiny little countries. And it looks like they should be swallowed up by either India or China. Huge gigantic. Both countries that have a history of, you know, trying to expand their borders. Yeah. But no, you can't fuck with the Gurkhas.

I mean, it's crazy. On two opposite sides of the mountain, you have Tibet, which is mostly a very, you know, religious, peaceful place that no one messed with because they just didn't feel like they were threats until some dickheads. decided to try to swallow them up and then on the other side you just have the fiercest warriors I do think the English wait

all right yeah check and see what would happen with the English I think the English may have conquered the Gercas but then the Gercas okay tell you what this is a good this is good time here we're going to jump into our interview with Colin O'Brien fascinating interview great guest one of my favorite guests that we've ever had on the show

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That's Concrete, check it out. And now here's our very special guest, Colin O'Brady. All right. We now welcome on a very special guest. It's Colin O'Brady. He has a new book called The Twelve Hour Walk, Invest One Day, Conquer Your Mind, and Unlock Your Best Life. Very excited to have you in the studio. You've done, honestly, some insane things. You're an insane person. You've pushed yourself to the limits. Billy called you the modern day Marco Polo. I like that. Earlier. You're okay with that, Bill? Yeah, I'm down with that.

Yeah, but he actually said you couldn't put up numbers back in those days. He said, you're good for your aerob. Well, you know, yeah, take it in stride. You know, take what I could get. He did say all those things. He said, yeah, you wouldn't last a day on a ship. Like a big wooden ship trying to navigate the globe. Well, I did row a boat across Drake Passes.

The most dangerous ocean stretch in the world. But, you know, Marco Polo had some other things. Like, he didn't know where the hell he was going. You have satellite GPS. You had some modern conveniences, yeah. So, yeah, just looking right now on the list of things that you've accomplished, you've climbed Mount Everest. You climbed Donali.

You rode across the Drake Passage. You transverse the South Pole. You went across Antarctica. Yeah. And what would you say is the most, what's the most dangerous thing that you've done? Most dangerous. Well, I mean, solo crossing of Antarctica, first person to do that, you know, unsupported, 375 pounds lead, pulling behind myself. You know, I was looking for the flat earth.

You know, I was. Yeah, I was going to say you're probably the only person with firsthand experience that, that, like, confirmation bias, like the whole flat earth theory. Yeah. It has a lot to do with confirmation bias. It does. Since people haven't seen it, they don't believe it, you're probably the only, like, the only person who has confirmation bias that the earth is round from various different

angles. Look, I have, I walked due south till I hit the South Pole and South became north. I did not see the edge of the world. I didn't see the wall. I didn't fall off the edge of the map. But I've told that to some flat earthers and they still, you know, they still have poke holes in the theory. They think I'm part of the conspiracy.

Exactly. Exactly. That's nuts. Page, chill. So when you're walking across the South Pole, did you actually take like an old school compass out and watch the needle change? So interestingly enough, compasses are very inaccurate at the South Pole because you're also really near the magnetic South Pole, which is what our compasses get pulled toward. And GPS as well, because all the lines of longitude, right? When you're at the South Pole, you can literally walk through every time zone in like one second, right?

the actual South Pole because you're like, you know, at the bottom of the world. So you have to have a special compass and it's a compass needle that doesn't let the magnet get basically pulled off course. But yeah, I navigated with the compass the entire time because GPS is actually more inaccurate. I had GPS with me to kind of check some things. But it's crazy. In Antarctica, full, full whiteout conditions often. So, you know, it's minus 30, 40 degrees outside. I minus 70 typically with the wind, at 50 mile per hour winds in my face. I was out there alone for 54 days. 24 hours of daylight too, so I'm in there in the Antarctic summer. So in the middle of the night still looks like high noon. And with the wind blowing in my face like

that, I obviously couldn't see sometimes five feet in front of me. So I'm literally, I've got a compass strapped to my chest, staring down at it. And I was walking 12 hours per day. We'll get into the 12 hour walking what that book is about. But that was my daily thing, literally staring at a compass. It's like almost being in a dark hallway. Imagine closing your eyes walking down a dark hallway. You'd smack into the wall pretty quickly because we can't walk in a straight line as humans without visual cues. So it's insanely disoriented. Yeah, you're nuts. How did you know you were walking straight? If I had to have the compass, honestly, there's no way. In fact, so much so that at one point I tried to never disconnect from my sled because it's

like my lifeline, my food, my supplies. If that was gone, I'm screwed. But there's a couple times. I remember one time I was like, I can't remember, wow, it's a little disoriented and like, I'm like, wait, I need to go here, there. And I just disconnected from my sled because it's 375 pounds to to start unsupported, which means no resupplies or food or fuel along the way. So you got take everything with you. And I still didn't have nearly enough. I was running a 3,000 calorie deficit every day because I could only eat so much that I could carry. And so I mean, by the end, I was like 50 pounds skinnier ribs and hip bones sticking out. Like it was brutal. A guy who attempted before me actually died attempting this crossing. But the one time I took my sled off or took my

unstrap my sled and I walked just like, I don't know, like 50 feet like barely. And I turn around and the whiteout had come in and you think you walk 50 feet like your thing, you know, big sled is going to be in view. I can't see anything, like completely nothing. And my heart just like fell out of my chest. And I was like, you think to yourself, I just walk this way. I must just be able to turn around and walk back the other way. I had literally, you could tell me forward, right, left, backwards. It's so disorienting out there. So I was like, I guess kind of like the lesson from Alice in Wonderland, you know, just sit and wait. I just sat there and like waited for a long enough that the clouds cleared and like, sure enough, like my sled was. But in a completely different direction, I would have thought

it was. Why did you do that? Why did you unclip yourself? That's got to be the one. thing that of all the things that you could do, why would you ever like to? I'm remembering in this instance, actually what happened was I had, um, had, I was a stop for lunch. I mean, I would literally stop for like two minutes at a time because it was so cold sitting still. The only way to stay warm is actually to keep moving a little bit. Um, and I pulled out of my pocket. I had like my food rations every single day, the exact amount. So I wouldn't, I was so hungry that I didn't have enough food, but I would like eat yet tomorrow's rations if I didn't have it specific. So I had these bags, plastic bags that were one day

at a time. And I remember that day, I actually reached in my pocket to grab this bag out and I pulled a loose piece of trash from what I had eaten out of my pocket and it blew away. And I don't know, like instinctively, like I was like kind of raised in an environment where it was like you protect the environment, you know, keep health. So I was like oh, I got to go get that piece of trash. So I just like ran after it in the wind

and like grabbed the plastic bag. And by the time I looked back, I was like, oh shit. Like where am I? You were trying not to litter. I was trying not to litter Antarctica, man. You don't respect that. Well, you've seen whatever it looks like nowadays with all that. Because once it's there, there's no way to get it out. Yes, indeed.

We don't want Antarctica to look like that. Antarctica's amazing, man. It's pristine. It's beautiful. It's untouched. The last thing you want to do is, I mean, it seems it's so vast. One tiny little piece of plastic, I probably would make no difference. But I didn't want to leave it out anything out there.

I have a dumb question about that walk. And we'll get to the book in a second because the book sounds fascinating too. But if you're walking across Antarctica, are you just, you have to be cold the entire time, right? you don't get used to it you're actively being cold yes well people say this to me like you know be middle of winter in new york city you know are you gonna go to the bars of the buddy or something like that people like yo man why you wearing a coat i'm like because it's fucking winter in new york city man i'm cold like you must not get cold i'm like yo i get cold just like anyone else the old literally only way to stay warm in antarctica um during this crossing you never get used to

it like i said average temperature is minus 30 but there's always wind so it's minus 50 minus 60 wind chill pretty much constantly um and that takes a toll on your body but you don't get used to it. I mean, by the end, like, I had frostbite in corners of my face. My fingers were cracking from the cold. I had to put super glue inside of them to, like, glue them shut. There's a phrase in the polar community, which is, if you sweat, you die. That's because, like, you know, your body temperature raises at some point,

and you could be pulling this heavy sled. You could get going enough that your body would actually sweat for a second. But the minute you stop, that sweat would freeze on your clothes, then your clothes would freeze to your body. There was one point early on in the expedition. I was having trouble. I was having difficulty. I was feeling pretty sorry for myself.

I'll admit it. And I actually, I started crying out of frustration. Like, I was like, why'd I do this? Why am I started crying? It's a valid question. It's going to be my question, actually. And pretty quickly, Antarctica smacked me across the face quite literally, which is what happens when you cry and it's minus 30 outside?

Well, it turns out the tears. They also freeze to your face, which is like the all-time most pathetic feeling. in case you were wondering. It's like, yeah, it's punishing you for being upset. Exactly. Oh, my God. What's crazy is that one of the reasons why our tears are salty, is it supposed to lower the freezing temperature

to not have as much of an impact? So evolutionarily, you were in a place that we were nowhere evolved to ever be. Correct. Correct. That's why. Yeah, I'd like you to address Big T's question, which I believe is just why? But why? You can take that in any way you want,

but for all the shit you've done, just why? you know uh we'll get into this a little bit with the 12 hour walk you know i think that as humans we we sit a little bit inside of our comfort zone too often um and i'm not saying you got to walk across an arctica but part of you don't sit in yours enough yeah there you go so maybe we'll find a happy balance between those two things you know i i'm curious about pushing the edges of human potential um i actually early on in my life and it might uh just after college 15 years or so ago, I was severely burned in a fire and I was told I would never walk again normally. I spent three months in a Thai hospital. Literally, I lit my entire body on fire. I was jumping a flaming

jump rope. You know, that's, you know, maybe not the smartest thing, turns out. But from that moment, interestingly enough, being burned this fire, being told you'll never be the same, being told you'll never walk again normally. My mother actually helped me through that while I'm sitting in the hospital in Thailand. She says to me, she says, Colin, like, this is horrible, but like, let's look towards the future, like your life's not over, you're 22 years old. What do you want to do when you get out of here? My, my, my, you know, legs are bandaged. There had been a cat running around my bed in this makeshift ICU in Thailand. It was a bad, bad situation to be in. And she was like, what do you want to do when you get out of here? And I was like, you know, it's just

downward spiler in my mind. She kind of kept at me. And she was, I don't know, if I could do anything, I'd race a triathlon. It's not something I'd literally ever done before. And this was a big turning point moment in my life because my mom could have been like, you know, I said, set a goal but like look at the legs and the burns and like they said you're not going to walk like maybe we said a different goal but instead she was like she was like I love that in fact you should start training right now and she goes doc hey doc my son's training for a triathlon he needs some weight so she literally has this doctor this Thai doctor brings and I have this picture of me I'm bandaged from the weight down there's like pus and gauze and dirt it's a bad situation but

I'm lifting these 10 pound dumbbells the doctor's looking at me this picture like this guy is out of his freaking mind but I'm like yo I'm gonna race a trifle on one day so anyways, that's a long way of saying. I did race the triathlon 18 months later. I'd race a Chicago traffon. I actually, to my complete another surprise, won the entire Chicago triathlon first out of 5,000 people. So that was a big surprise on the day. But the point being is like in that moment, I think my life could have gone in two different directions. Left up to my own devices, I think I would have downward spiraled into negativity and who I don't think I'd be sitting here having this conversation with you. Instead, in that moment, my mother

taught me this important lesson, which is I call, I talk about it in the book, a possible mindset, a mindset that I think is an empowered way of thinking that unlocks the life of limitless possibilities. No matter where we find ourselves in any moment in time, like, what can we do? What can we create? How can we build? And that doesn't have to be athletically, right? That can be creatively. That can be in family, entrepreneurship, frigging podcast. Like, yo, what can we do? What can we create? What impact can we have? And so that mindset, I mean, I sit here now humbly with 10 world records, but all those world records were set with these legs and all these world records were set with these legs where I was told at one point I would

never walk again normally. Now getting some of those records, I specifically want to talk about the Explorers Grand Slam, which is an amazing feat. It incorporates getting to a bunch of these locations. One of is the South Pole, Mount Vincent in Antarctica, which is a mountain there, Acconcagua. Yes, in South America, another huge mountain. Mount Kilimanjaro. Mount, the one in Australia. Yeah, yeah, they're hard to pronounce. Parsons Pyramid, Cozy Osco. Yes.

Mount Elbris, North Pole, Mount Everest in Denali, in North America. I mean, they say that not many people, has, do you know how many people have that? Yeah, so with the Explorers Grand Slam, it is the, those mountains that you were listing. So that's the tallest mountain on each of the seven continents. So the highest point on each continent, those are collectively known as the seven summits, which of course includes Everest, Denali, Kilimanjaro, like you said, as well. as completing expeditions to the North Pole and the South Pole. So that collectively, those nine expeditions are known as the Explorers Grand Slam. And it's sort of a high pinnacle of

achievement in the adventure exploration community. Now, most people have done that. About 50 people in history had done it when I was attempting it. I'm not sure what the number is now, not so many more than that. But typically people do that over five or 10 years. You know, like it's like a lifetime achievement. Okay, I'm going to climb this mountain, train for it, come back, reset, plan another expedition. But early on, this is my first big world record project back in 2016. I set myself the goal to see if not if I could not only complete it, but also become the fastest to complete it. And so we built a whole project around it. My wife and I, she's actually in the studio sitting in the corn with us today. And we kind of built this idea to see if I could do

it faster than anybody, which meant not taking any breaks in between. So it was like, I get to the South Pole immediately on a flight over to Mount Vincent in Antarctica. Mount Vincent right straight to kill Mike. I'm only resting. We had like no money at the time. So we were scraping this together. We, you know, spent a year and a half trying to raise sponsors to stuff. But I'm sitting like middle seat coach, like back of the plane. I'm like, that's like my only rest between the mountain. Get off the plane. Be like, all right, go up the next one. But just made it in the nick of time 139 days consecutively to set that world record. Wow. Well, wow. Talk to me about your book a little but so it seems interesting it's called the 12 hour walk again invest one day cock your mind

unlock your best life what is the 12 hour walk yeah so um a couple years ago i wrote my first it was called the impossible first which was all about the antarctic crossing uh you can check that out um memoir that was about the crossing new york times bestseller uh proud of that but this book um i'm really fired up it comes out it comes out today um i'm fired up about the book um i'm fired up about the book. The 12-hour walk, as I mentioned, that was my typical duration walking across Antarctica day by day, 54 days in a row of that. And my body, as I mentioned, I was so calorie deficient. I was so starved. My body was beat up. But a strange thing happened. As my body got weaker, my mind actually got stronger. I found this like deep clarity, this deep fulfillment in my mind

as I was making this crossing so much so that when I got back, I have never felt just so dialed, so focused around just life stuff around fulfillment around family around my priorities around just crushing it in my businesses like I was just dialed in and I was like sick like I found it I found this meditative bliss like inside of my mind and that was true for the next couple years it did some big projects started and sold a company made a bunch of money had a lot of success in that period of time and then COVID hit man like I was actually planning to go over to Mount Everest with my wife she was going to attempt to climb it from the Chinese side April 2020 I don't think anyone was going to China in April 2020.

No. I think you were letting anybody in. I'm not sure they still are. But anyways, we're about to fly over there. And just like all the rest of us, like life just like completely, you know, canceled, put on hold fully. And not that like my issues of my life being canceled is the worst thing, you know, for the world. The humanity was, you know, sort of at risk. All these headlines of, you know, people are dying.

The borders are going to be closed, you know. And I thought like my mind was dialed and sharp, but I found myself in a pretty depressed. anxious state man just like googling all this news doom scroll in the news just like sitting on my couch and at one point uh we're at a small cabin in the oregon coast just my wife and my dog and i'm sitting there and my wife looks over at me she goes hey you know you haven't gotten out of your pajamas in like three and a half days and you're like literally just like staring at your phone like winding yourself up like you know just kind of like hey just just checking in you all right and i was like no like i'm not good but i thought back i was like when was the last time that i felt like really at peace and really

dialed in my body and spirit and I was like crazy enough as hard as Antarctica was it was also in the stillness and the silence and the day-to-day purpose of this walk and so I said to her I was like man I'm grasping at straws here honestly but tomorrow I'm going to go for a walk 12 hours like I used to in Antarctica just right out our front door and she was like kind of smiles and lashes like whatever she's seen me done all sorts of crazy shit she's like sure have fun see at dinner um so I walk out the front door 20 minutes in my phone buzzes in my pocket my buddy is texting me pull my phone out I'm about to, like, text my buddy back. And I'm like, what am I, like, what am I doing?

Texting my buddy and, like, this walk. Like, I need to just be alone. So I put my phone on airplane mode and walk the rest of the time in silence and stillness. No music, no podcast, just like me and my thoughts. Took breaks, but, like, mostly moving my body them the whole time. And I get back to my front door, like, feeling good. And I walk in the front door, and my dog jumps up on my lap. And then my wife looks at me and she goes, you're back.

And I was like, yeah, I told you. I was going to come back after 12 hours. She was like, no, no, no. like you're back like she could just see it in my eyes that something had shifted and i was like you're right like i feel better than i felt in a long time like i needed that just went into my body my soul i feel just like calm and complete stronger again in my mind conjuring that possible mindset again i'm just like okay like this is a bad situation but what are we going to do to find our way out of this but i thought this was just a me thing like i was like cool like i walked across

an arctica and i can like tap back into this thing from walking like whatever but over the course of COVID, as we all did, friends, family members, colleagues, you'd Zoom with people like, yo, I'm not doing good. My job just got canceled for my job. Or I'm sitting in this Zoom office in my house. My kids are running around. Like, I'm like going crazy, you know, my house. And so I just started telling people different types of people about this 12-hour walk, young, old,

people at different fitness levels. I was just like, yo, take as many breaks as you want. I don't care if you go for one mile or 50, but take 12 hours to yourself. No music, no podcast, whatever. And a bunch of people took me up on it. and it was just unanimously positive for people. People were just like, bro, like, I did not know how much I needed this. I haven't spent time alone in my thoughts.

It was hard. The silence, the solitude was hard, but by the end, I felt deeply fulfilled, impacted. So anyways, long way, that's the origin story. But I wrote this book, and this book, it'll entertain the hell out of you. It's a short story is about all these different expeditions, points in my life, places where I've been struggling in my own mindset, my own limiting beliefs. If you're, you know, want to just hear about adventures and be entertained, it's that. at its core, it's really a call to action. And that's what the subtitle, the 12-hour walk,

invest one day, conquer your mind and unlock your best life. It's a call to action. My goal is to inspire 10 million people to take this 12-hour walk. And I've got a website 12-hour walk.com where you can sign up. There's a lot of research that says if you're just signing up, that commits it, it puts it on your calendar. If you're looking for accountability on September 10th, I'm going to be doing the walk. Thousands of people around the world are already signed up to do the walk on that day. You can do the walk any single day. You can do the walk any single day. But if, again, accountability, it's still just, you're doing it alone. You're still in silence, but the knowledge that other people are out there on that day.

So long story short, man, this is my way of creating something that I think is incredibly accessible, but incredibly impactful. I mean, there's simplicity in it, but there's power and simplicity. And this will change your life, man. This is a reset that people need. And like I said, in the subtitle, to unlock your best life, a moment to look inside and to really find out what's important. That's awesome.

So do you get a sticker? do the walk. So most people need something that you can put on the back of their car to be like, hey, look at what I did. Yeah. So I made a, in the digital world we live in. So I figured the digital sticker might be even more impactful. Also, you know, easier just to get to people. An NFT. Yeah, an NFT of sorts. So I, I created an app. It's about to come out the next week or so in coordination with this book launch. But the app tracks you, tracks your walk. Basically, funny enough, you build an app for something that's supposed to be about your phone. But I was like, okay, people are going to be like, but I get lost without Google Maps and I need a

clock. And I was like, fine. Well, the app works in Airplay mode. It encourages you to take a video of yourself before so you can reflect on that afterwards. Put your phone on airplay mode. You start the app and it tracks you. And there's a little line where you go. You can zoom in and out like basically inside the app. You're like, oh, where the hell am I? I'm, you know, on this intersection. And then at the end, it says, congratulations. You can put the 12 hour walk. You can see the map of all the place you win, how far. And a digital JPEG. It will say, congratulations, fill in the blank your name. You did it. If you were going to say an NFT, actually, I was going to be very disappointed in this. It's just like everything that you've talked about has been like

very, I would have been very upset. I would kick you out of here. But no, it sounds great. I think there's actually like some history that would back up the fact that if you spend that much time walking, it does give you clarity and purpose. I know, I think it was Tibetan monks and the labyrinth that they would build for themselves. And when I mean labyrinth, I'm not talking about like, you know, a maze with like a big minotaur or whatever. It's a path that you walk on and it's on the ground and it's in you know really one location but you just take these winding turns around and it's probably like 50 I don't know maybe like 25 yards by 25 yards something like that and you end up walking for about an hour maybe two hours through all these paths in these

concentric circles and you just walk by yourself with no distractions and this was like a daily practice that a lot of Tibetan monks actually participate in and it is supposed to give you clarity make you calm and kind of center you overall so I think there's probably some truth and some science that goes behind. Yeah, no, there's a, you know, it's cool. As I've gotten into this, you know, I sort of stumbled across it myself, but I have a deep meditation practice and in all the research for the books, like realize that, you know, walking and the reason that this exists is that it's deeply

embedded in our DNA. I mean, as human beings, you know, if you go back far enough in time, we're all sort of hunter-gatherer tribes, we're nomadic, we moved around on our feet, obviously very different than modern times. And then, yeah, historically over time, you've got indigenous cultures doing vision quests, things of that sort. And so it really is, in a lot of ways, tapping back into those roots, those sort of different, different cultural philosophies, but there's a lot of different cultures. Yeah, certainly Tibetan monks is one of them that have leaned into walking because there's

something about the repetitive nature, your mind being, you know, lit up and also just being outside, moving your body, and then the stillness of the mind. I mean, some people are down for a yoga or meditation, whatever, and some people put off like, oh, that's too woo-woo. I'm not into that kind of a thing. It's like, I don't care what you call this walk. Call it the 12-hour walk. Call it a walking meditation. Like, whatever serves you, at the end of the day, I don't care who you are. We need, you know, I think about it like this. Like, you want to go to the, you want to go to the gym and like, yo, it's summertime, man. I want to have those ripped dabs, the jack biceps, you know, for the summer. It's like, we all know what that looks like.

People will be like, cool, man, so you're going to go to the gym and you're probably going to like eat healthy. You're going to work out. You're going to hit those reps. Like, you're going to get the biceb curls. You're going to get the bench press. But I think too often, And I love to say the most important muscle any of us has is the six inches between our ears. And I think too often we don't think of the mind as a muscle. Like if you want to, you want to fucking dialed mind. Like you want to get that right. Like you've got to put the reps in.

You got to put the mind on that mental bench press, so to speak. And the 12 hour walk is absolutely an exercise of flexing and developing that muscle. Very cool. Erin, what do you got? I know you've got some thoughts. Well, um, so I used. to be a professional athlete. And I would like to hear your advice that you would give people that when you're at that threshold of pushing yourself to the limits that you don't even know

you are capable of, I've been there many times. And what I've noticed is that there's like a little voice in your head that just weighs on you and continues to tell you, stop. We've had enough. You've done enough. It's good. You're good. Stop it. Stop, stop. And you kind of had to like fight that voice in your head. And that's a very hard thing to do. And that's like the core and the crux of discipline. And so like, what is your advice that you tell people or have you told people that combat's that voice inside your head telling you to stop? I love that. That's a great question. What sport, by the way? Did you play? I played football. Football. Okay, cool. Yeah. No, 100%. I mean, I think you nail on the head. That's such a great question. Spot on. on. You know, the entire book really is about these limiting beliefs that we all face, that voice inside of our head. You know, I remember my first day after those frozen tears in Antarctica

actually, you know, I was alone in Antarctica and I set my alarm and I thought, man, I've had such a bad day. I might have to quit. You know, it's only two days in. I told, took the New York Times interview, oh, I'm going to do this, like, whatever. And then I'm like one day in, like, man, I'm going to have to quit. Like, that's a bad feeling. I set my alarm that first day and I wake up that morning and I always joke around I'm like yo who was in the tent with me people like I thought you were alone I'm like well no I was alone but the five other versions of me were in that tent like that negative voice but sort of it was a physical manifestation of that negative voice like five different versions of me like look at him like Colin you're an idiot man quit now like this

sucks man like you're gonna embarrassing yourself like this is like we know that feeling right like we beat up on ourselves in our own minds and that's where that question is coming from like how do you combat that voice you know I love to say um that we are the stories that we tell ourselves. We are the stories that we tell ourselves. And, you know, we kind of get to choose what we tell ourselves. And in that moment, I was just, in many moments in my life, I've been beaten up on myself. That moment in Antarctica, what I did, and I'll extrapolate this wider to how, you know, the advice that I give others.

But in that moment, I literally couldn't cut through the noise of all this negativity, all these negative thoughts in my head. And so I actually stood up outside of my tent in Antarctica as loud as I could, you know, shouting out loud. Not in my head now. I started shouting, Colin, you are strong. You are capable. I was just like, you are strong. You are capable. And that was my daily mantra every day. It's literally shouting that to try to quiet this voice in my head. The thing is, is that, I mean, the entire book really focuses on this premise. That's why it's such a great question. But also one of the things that I love and why I'm so passionate about this idea of taking a 12-hour walk is that I think too many, you know, column self-help, call them personal development, call my advice, whatever you

want to call that genre of book or, you know, content. I think too often that like lives and dies on the page or lives and dies on the video, like someone's giving you a bunch of advice. And look, this book is full of great advice about the 10 most common limiting beliefs I think any of us face. I don't have enough money. I don't have enough time. What if I fail? And what if people criticize me? Like, we've all experienced these thoughts in our head before. And the book is full of advice and wisdom. I think if you take that advice of wisdom, it'll go a long way. But my why I say take the walk is that will imprint on your own psyche that is a somatic that is a visceral actual lived experience and I know for you as a football player and professional athlete

putting your pushing your body at that level like no level of hard one wisdom or advice from a coach is going to teach you how to actually train your mind of that to actually make that shift right like you got to go there you got to be in the trenches you got to bang and you got to push through that but one thing I do love to tell people um you know as a piece of advice is I've come to think of life on this spectrum of one to ten. You know, one being our lowest, lowest moments. And ten being our highest highs. So, you know, one is me burning myself in that fire being told I would never walk again normally.

Or those frozen tears in Antarctica. We know what those ones look like, right? And the tens, the tens of the highest highs, you know, setting that world record, the day your first child is born, falling in love, having amazing sex. Like tens, like, you know, skiing epic pal, whatever like a ten is for you, right? Like, people want to experience the tens. But here's a thing. People want the tens, but they don't want the ones.

But every time I've experienced a 10 in my life, when I've reflected on, as I realize that I've only gotten to those tens, not in spite of my ones, not from hedging against the ones, but actually being willing to experience the ones, meaning all of my tens have come because of allowing myself to experiencing some ones along the way. And what I've realized is that too often people are hedging so hard against the ones, If you take the ones off the table, you take the tens off the table. And I think most people are sitting in this, what I call this zone of comfortable complacency between four and six.

Just, I got a job. It's fine. I don't love it. I don't hate it. I go every day. Five. Five. Five.

It's like, yo, I'm in a relationship. It's fine. It's not like abusive or toxic. But like we cohabitate. It's like, you know, whatever. Five every single day. And people are so afraid to make that shift or that change. And so to answer that question for you, like, how do you get people to not quit?

Part of it is getting people to start. to take that step outside of the comfort zone. But then when you're feeling that discomfort, when you're feeling that pain, they'd initiate your brain goes, hey, stop, stop, go back to that comfort zone. Just stay at a five. What I love to tell myself,

and I say it in the book, which is embrace those ones. Embrace them, because I get lit up by them now. It's not like I want to be crying and frozen tears on my face, but I'm like, okay, this is opening the door. This is actually the pathway to get to those tens. And the 12-hour walk is a simulation of this,

it's sort. Like, will your feet get tired if you walk around for 12 hours? Yes. Like if you're alone in your thoughts, you're not used to being that. Are you going to beat up on yourself a little bit negativity in your head? Yes. You're going to feel some discomfort. There might be some twos and threes along the way. But every single person I've known to get back to that front door swings back towards that eight, towards that nine, towards that 10. And that's the juice. That's the fabric. That's not another five day that you're never going to remember. That imprints. And so I tell people, if you're feeling that, if your brain is saying, hey, stop. This is the moment to actually embrace that. Yeah. I mean, this is a great point because I'm looking back at my life and some of the, some of the biggest challenges that I've had, I've actually put myself in those positions intentionally to see if I can overcome them. And then when you do overcome them, great things happen after that. Absolutely. So, I mean, this is completely different from what Arians talk about because I didn't play sports at a high level. But I started playing rugby when I was in college. And I started playing rugby because I found myself like being. afraid of being in situations where I'm going to be tackled, where I'm going to be tackling people who are, you know, most of the time much bigger than I am. And I wanted to see if I could overcome that. And then it turned out being one of the best decisions I ever made. I made

lifelong friends. I ended up playing for about 10 years. And it brought so much joy to me and like being able to go out there. And every single day that I'm doing this, I'm overcoming a fear that I used to have like step by step. It led to great things. Another time I quit a I was afraid. I was getting into, like you said, like the four to six zone. And I wasn't happy with that. I felt bad about it. So I put myself in a situation where it's like, okay, swim or die, you're going to quit, find something else. And a long winding road after I did that left me or led me to right here today. So like, I think that there is some truth in finding the things that you're afraid of, the things that your body is telling you do not do sometimes. And, you know,

obviously, you know, different people have different appetites for danger. I don't think everyone's going to go out there and walk across Antarctica because we're not insane. But it's the same principle, which is like, okay, find something that you're afraid of, try to overcome it. Because in the process of doing that, it can lead you to some really incredible places. 100%. I actually had a follow-up question to that, man, because I've experienced that. I mean, not to the, I don't think to the extent of you put it myself in dangerous situation, I don't fuck with nature. So I definitely, definitely feel you on that. But like, pushing my my body passed the point of physical exertion to the point of where I can't move, literally, right?

I've done that many times. And in doing so, I learned a valuable lesson subsequently because what I found, and this is my follow-up question to you is, how do you balance that with interpersonal relationships in your life? And what I mean by that is not everybody is capable of doing that. it takes years and years of patience and trial and error and just painstaking, trying it out to finally realize what your body is capable of. And in doing so, that is a dangerous line to walk because you then expect that others can also do that. And then the expectation of everybody around you

rises in your head. Then you start, and this is what I did. This is my follow. question to use. It's a bit philosophical, but so the expectations around you start to rise and you need to start to judge people on their circumstances and their conditions. So how do you balance the empathy of other, of where everybody else is at mentally, in juxt the position with where you're at mentally? No, that's a that's a very insightful question. What I'm hearing is, is as you up your game, you start to look around and be like, yo, why how come everyone else doesn't know this lesson? Like how come everyone else doesn't know how to push themselves, you know, that hard and then you're disappointed um by others you know i first and foremost what i've realized

through my you know trials and tribulations pushing my body out there has actually brought me really close to others in sort of just uh i don't know that's just you know the spiritual side of me but a connectedness to sort of the energy or positivity um out out in the world so that's just like on a personal level but i totally get what you're saying which is it's tough man but that's where again, not just because I'm here talking about this book, but genuinely what I'm excited about with the 12-hour walk. Like, I have had so many conversations about my 10 world records. I give a big speech, you know, on a stage. I do a lot of public speaking for, you know, big companies, you know, the Nikes, the Googles of the world, that kind of thing. And people come up to me and they're like,

yo, man, like, that was so sick. You walked to Cresdenartica. That was so hard. I could never do something like that, whatever. And then you end up having that conversation. What I'm excited about with the 12-hour walk itself is the exercise implicitly meets people right where they're at. Like I'm not saying, hey, train for a year for this. And once you have these skills, come to this, whatever. I'm literally saying everyone's hard is different, what I've realized. Like, everyone's hard is different. For the ultramarathon runner, the 100-mile run is hard. For the person that hasn't ever got off their couch, you know, the one-mile jog around their neighborhood would be difficult, right? But both people are experiencing that discomfort

that push up against their current limits and their current edges in that moment. And so what's fun for me to come up with an exercise is I'm like, I'm like, yo, my 77-year-old mother-in-law did the 12-hour walk. For her, that was one time around her block. And then she sat on her front porch quietly for an hour. And then she walked another time around her block. I've had a buddy who's a crazy good shape Olympian do 50 miles in 12 hours. Neither one of them is doing the 12-hour walk right or wrong.

In fact, they're both doing it right and they're both succeeding because they're pushing up against their own edges. And so for me, it's a great question. I try not to have that judgment. I'm only human. So, of course, I've had that judgment in my mind and in my life with others. But it's also to say, okay, I'm not trying to say everyone should walk across Antarctica. I've climbed Everest twice. I'm not saying everyone should climb Mount Everest. I love to ask the question, which is, what is your Everest? What is your Everest? Right? Like, that can be climbing a mountain, that can be starting a business, that can just be falling in love, that can be finding, I don't know, crushing any element of your life, happiness, creativity, family.

Like, there's no right answer to that question, but I want people to answer that question. And then by pushing up against their heart in the 12-hour walk, however that is defined for them, whatever state of being therein, you can have those lessons because we're all on a continuum of a spectrum of growth, right? We're all trying to make incremental steps and incremental gains from where we are now to where we are tomorrow and the next day. And so, again, I try to let go of that judgment and really teach from a place of, let this meet you right where you're at today

and take that 1% that 2% that 3% maybe more percent gain from that into the future. So my personal Everest is going to be this Thursday the NFL Hall of Fame game is being played and it's the Jaguars and the Raiders two teams that nobody really gives a shit about and it's the first game of the year

and it's going to be 90% third stringers, fourth stringers. I'm going to try to watch the whole thing. Okay. That's my goal for this Thursday. Yeah, was Marcus Marriota going to get some run off the bench? Mark's Marriottia, he's now on, the falcons, yeah. Oh, man.

I agree with you. I'm an Oregon guy, so I'm from Portland, so I didn't realize that he'd been traded. He got a starting gig again? Yeah. He's really excited about it. It'll be fun. That's great news. That's great.

Yeah, I was with you. When I was watching him on the Raiders last year, I was like, wow, he's good. Like when he gets in, he gives a little spark there. But, yeah, I'm going to be dialed in and there's no turn back. Yeah, you got to keep it on. All four quarters. No, no fast forward in through stuff. No DVR.

like waiting to getting fast forward in the breaks. What's the longest time you've ever spent on a couch watching TV? I've spent some time, man. I'm only human after all. You're not like one of those like Australian border or the Australian cattle dogs that starts to just freak out when they're inside for too long? Well, your wife is saying yes, you are. I'm going to believe her.

Well, I will say this. There's a chapter of this book that's about I don't have enough time. And I open the chapter by being like, you don't have enough time? Because I hear that excuse me all the time. I'm like, yo, but have you seen all of Game of Thrones? And everyone's like, yo, sick, yo, loved it. And I was like, you know, that's 70 hours right there. But then I'm like, yo, me too.

I've seen Tiger King. I've seen every Game of Thrones. I've binge my fair share of Netflix. And I love sports too. You watch Game of Thrones when you're like on a treadmill? Yes. Yeah. That's multitasker.

That's going to be one of my questions because like the self-help gurus and like, y'all are interesting to me. And I'm very grateful for everything that you said. But I'm like, I always wonder like, yo, what's your values? vice you know what I mean because it's like you're you're like up top mentally you just have it all together but like what's your vice you know everybody got a vice yeah I mean look man I don't know if it's a vice or not but like I I like to my hair short but I like to let my hair down I like to party I like to dance I like to hang like I to me like the spice of life like some people look at me and they think oh man like that come out your vice is hold up hold up hold up hold up I was going to say

what I was going to say was everyone everyone say to me is that uh you know they look at me like oh, that guy must be so disciplined. That guy must only eat, like, you know, raw vegetables and, like, you know, only be training, like, 100% of the time. And, like, look, I like to say everything in moderation, including moderation, man. Like, I like to go hard. I like to party. I like to hang out as well.

So, you know, it's when I'm focused on something, you know, I'm focused. And when I'm not, I can be less focused. So I'm a human being with all the ups and downs. The book, honestly, I will say this. The book is written from a perspective of put, like, literally vulnerably. I could write a book that's like, yo, I'm dope, I've set 10 world records, let me tell you how freaking hardcore and how I crush it at life. Like, this book is a very vulnerable share of all of the times where I have failed,

while I've been set back, where I was down to myself, where I slipped, what I fell, what I this, and the vices and all the doubts and everything in between. So I think from a potential, not the biggest lover of self-help, I don't think anyone's characterized me as a self-help guru, but, you know, I'll take that with a smile on my face. I like it. No, I like it, man. I like it. Just motivational speakers. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there are a lot of people out there that are in that space that are completely full of shit.

Correct. We don't think. Correct. You're not, you're not. Oh, no. We can do a whole podcast on that. I agreed. They actually fascinate me. They're like the swindlers out there. The snake salesman? The snakes are like we were talking about what's his name, John Edward the other week together that said you could talk to dead people. I don't know about him. That dude, Tony Robbins. There are a lot of people out there that say they've got all the answers and they don't. I think what you're offering right here.

There's a completely different ballgame entirety from all that. That's why I asked you advice and you. I think it's based on it. I think it's got to be based on experience. You know, if you're going to speak to something. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So my shardy actually from Portland, man. Oh, all right.

I don't, this ain't no like, it's probably nothing to you, but we went on a hike. Okay, nice. And it was, it was, it was at Spirit Falls. We've been to Spirit Falls. I think it's in Washington. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was one of my, it's actually where. we fell in love.

Okay. So maybe you do like nature after all. You say you don't fuck with nature, but it sounds like you do fuck with nature a little bit. I do not fuck with nature. So like trail paths and like shit, like where there's no like chance of wildlife, I'm straight.

We're good. I'm cool. But ever than that, nah, dog, you got it. Yeah. Well, see, I don't fuck with huge dudes tackling me like your size. You know what I mean?

So we each have our different strengths, man. Push your limits, my brother. so uh i probably have some of the most important questions of the day coming up right here so you've summoned the seven summits of mount everest you've crossed antarctica both these places are you know with the seven summits of mount ever's or seven summits on mount evers seven summits one of which is mount ever seven summits of the world wait the world yeah the the highest points on every con it's a seven summit yeah yeah i don't want to correct him but i'm I'm glad you did.

Not, always correct. You've done this. Oh, I've climbed Everest twice. The seven summits includes everything. Yeah. What I meant to say is both sides. Should we haven't pronounced the mountains again?

Does he need to pronounce those mountains? If he does it in a Russian accent, he'll actually, he'll be able to do it. That's a terrible. I know, but talking about doing both sides of Everest, you spend a lot of time on Everest. You know, Sir Edmund Hillary once talked about seeing footprints in the snow and in the great wide outdoors in Mount Everest, hypothetically seeing a Yeti. Have you ever seen a Yeti? I have not seen a Yeti. I have not seen a Yeti, although I have had some pretty intense hallucinations out there.

That's what I want to ask you about. So when I was crossing Antarctica, there was actually another dude attempting the crossing at the exact same time. We didn't know about each other. We planned our thing. People have been trying to do this crossing for like 100 years. A guy died trying. People have run out of food and had to be evacuated and rescued. But it's like been in the zeitgeist of exploration.

Like can someone pull off this solo crossing? So I trained for a whole year. I'm about to fly down there. I do this article with the New York Times says, hey, I'm going to try to do this thing that people say is impossible. And the same day that article comes out, this British dude took like the exact same interview in London on the London Telegraph says like,

Captain Lou Rudd, special forces badass is attempting this crossing. Turns out when I say the same time, I don't mean like within a few weeks we arrived there. Like there's one guy with one plane that can take you to the edge of Antarctica and there's one season where you can do it. We called up the same guy. And before I know it, We're sitting shoulder to shoulder in a cargo plane getting flown to the edge.

And this guy is, this guy's special forces, British special force, like equivalent of a Navy seal in the British military, total badass hardcore dude. Now I'm sitting shoulder to shoulder. He's looking at me. He's going to like, hey, man, it should be a Brit that cracks this journey first. And I'm like looking at his sled. Like, did he bring the sniper rifle? Like, you know, like what's going on in here?

So anyways, he kicks my ass in the first week hard. I do pass him on the sixth day. I start getting into my 12-hour rhythm and getting out there. And he said some pretty intense words to me when I was passing him. But, you know, I stayed in front of him. I thought I was in front of him. But every single day I was looking behind myself. Like literally, every single day I'd wake up and look behind myself.

Like the storms would get so bad. But I kept telling myself, if I don't go out of my tent today, Captain Lou might pass me. I got to stay. I want to be first. I want to be like have that historic world first. I had no idea where he was. So I spent like, you know, weeks and weeks and weeks looking over my shoulder. Day 40 or so arrives.

I pass him on day six. it's day 40 so i've now literally not seen a human being for 34 days not talk to anyone i'm completely in silence like this endless white abyss there's nothing to see and i call my wife every single night on a sat phone just to do this quick like medical check like and she's asked me some basic questions just make sure like i haven't like completely lost my shit and that day when i'm walking i get it in my head and i'm like is lou real like is captain lou like is there like Is there a British Special Forces dude out here chasing me? Or did I completely make this shit up?

Because, and I'm like, man, I'm losing my shit. And I was like, so I'm like, okay. But then I start thinking myself like, either he's real, which is a motivating source, or he's not real. And I've one hell of an imagination. I was like, that's cool too because it gets me out of this 10 every day. But I literally get on the satellite phone, call my wife, and I say to her, I go, I got a real question for you.

Don't make fun of me. Is Lou real? And she's just like, yes. he is real and then she hung up the phone and called my mom and was like yo our boy's losing this shit I don't know what to do that's incredible so at the moment that you passed him

was it like did you give him a little wave like wait you had to be like on your left right so what actually happened what actually happened is I didn't I thought he smoked me so hard on the first day in the first couple days I literally thought I was never going to see this guy again I was like just going to be lucky

to try to finish or like I don't know but on the sixth day I spot a tent like way out on the horizon. I'm like, holy shit, there's a tent. I'm pretty sure there was nobody else wandering around the middle of Antarctica by themselves. Could have been where alien is. I know Alien versus predator. I saw the end of that. They've got a whole nest on the ground there. Right. The thing. I mean, there could have been a Yeti, you know, but I was like, probably Captain Lou. Looks like his tent. But so whiteout. So I'm thinking I can like kind of sneak past him. It's early morning for me. So I start going past him. But I get about 50 feet within the tent. And I hear

this coughing. And there's unzipping in the tent. He like pops his head out. And he starts like, didn't it's like that slow kind of wave like that kind of king of england like on a float like kind of wave like at me and he's like hey and i was like just kind of like hey don't mind me just you know whatever so i keep walking and in a white out i mean it's hard to navigate anyways but it's don't mind me just better than you yeah exactly and so i i look down i'm i got this compass out right because i told you it's insanely hard to navigate and it's a super bad white out this day so i'm like staring at this compass and it's extra slow going because it's like two steps to the left you got to move the compass you're like trying to figure out how to get in the right position it's really hard to

navigate. A couple hours later, I look back behind me and Captain Lou is there, but he doesn't have his compass out. He's just like casually just like watching me navigate and letting me like to all the twists and turns. He's like slowly walking behind me, like letting me do all the work cutting the trail. And I'm like, I'm frustrated. So I finally slow down and I force him to come up beside me. And he comes up beside me and I'm thinking like, you know, we're going to have an intense exchange. But instead he's like, hey, good morning, mate. You know, how you doing? And I'm like, what are you? And he's like hey actually I got a bit of a suggestion for you and I'm like okay special forces dude walks up to you all chipper like with a suggestion like pretty sure this is not like going in a

positive direction and so I look at him and I'm like hey man we both know the stakes out here we both know someone's died trying this like I go before you say anything else I'm just going to tell you let this be the last time we speak like I do not want to speak to you we're supposed to be alone out here like I will like I'll see you later and he was like are you sure and I was like, yes. And he pulls up, we were like full face masks, right? Because if our skin was in the exposed to the cold air for a few minutes, we get frostbite. But he pulls his mask up for a second.

He just stares his eyes into me. And he's like, all right, suit yourself, like, as he was going to give me the biggest, greatest suggestion ever. But then it was hilarious because I was like, and I will see you later. We're both pulling like 350 pounds sleds behind. It's like, see you later. And we're like shoulder to shoulder. I will see you later. It's like back in middle school or high school when you say, all right, I'll catch you

after class, and then you guys both walk the same direction. Exactly. It's like super rock, and you're like, all right, well, all right. So then we literally ignore each other. But that day, this is actually where the 12 hours comes in. I was in my mind. I was like, I'd never thought I could go more than 10, but I was like, I'm going to take at least one step further than this guy.

Eight hours goes by. He's still literally right next to me. Nine hours goes by. It's right next to me. We're both just like looking forward, ignoring it, 10 hours goes by. She's still there. I'm like, shit, I got, what can happen?

11 hours, finally he reaches down and grabs his tent. I'm so exhausted. I think I'm going to like fall over, but I like try to play it cool and I'm like whatever I'm just going to walk another mile and so I just like stumble my way another mile and take my first lead in the race but that night my wife she says to me she goes I've been meaning to tell you this but I've been running the spreadsheet back home you're not even close to going far enough per day so if you don't switch to 12 hours per day you're going to run out of food out there so cool that you've done it once

just do it another 50 times and you might be good Jesus that that's intense it sounds like a movie out there should still have all your fingers and toes all intact so for it to me that's what success looks like every time that's the most important thing do you have your appendix uh no oh yeah i do have my appendix okay oh wow billy no billy may have told a lie on the last podcast then i heard i heard like a rumor that you can't go to antarctica if you have an appendix because you might get appendicitis and die and there's nobody to take it out you know it would this has actually been said to me before there they're having people that said you should do that like preemptively i've never done that i have done like some dental work and stuff just to like you know like if you

have like a lingering thing. It's like get all the things dialed because like your teeth like can like really screw you up because it down to the cold and like stuff like that. But I did not remove any organs to, uh, I think the rule is if you're going to spend time on whatever scientific research center that they have down there where it gets frozen in over the course of a winter. You have to have your appendix out already because if it does rupture, then there's no way that they can get it out and you're just going to die down there. So not my first, on this long crossing, I couldn't like obviously go into any buildings that would have stopped the unsupported. But at the South Pole, there is a scientific research base that's run by the U.S. government. And my previous time in Antarctica,

my end of my expedition ended there on the Explor's Grand Slam. And so they invited me to come inside this research base. So I went into this tour, this research base. And it was crazy. The walls are, first of all, they're like two foot thick, like metal doors. Because in the winter, I mean, the summer minus 30, minus 40. Winter is like minus 100 in pitch black for six months straight. and 15 people keep the base going over the winter and the woman given us the tour I was like she's like oh I have a couple jobs here I'm like she's like I'm oh I'm not just the tour guy I'm obviously that I have like a random tour guy down there she's like I'm the doctor

and I'm like oh that's cool and I was like so what's your specialty she's like I'm just like the everything doctor I was like we can't know everything in medical school she's like I don't but like she's like they just give I have a roomful of all the tools and she goes oh I did a tooth extraction the other day I had to do this other surgery like via YouTube she's like on the phone back home to another doctor like okay make the cut here do the thing like here like you got to be able to do it all you can't say no you can't say no so that was that was wild realizing you're far out there they do have one doctor but it's not like every single thing and they don't want to appendix or things like that you know just to one a Russian doctor took out

his own appendix in Antarctica that's pretty metal yeah yeah so when you see David Goggins who just does a lot of miles but just like in America and not too intense are you like that's kind of soft uh you know i'm not going to sit here and call out guggins you know i think what he's done he's motivated a ton of people but uh but yeah you know uh you know he's done a lot of stuff on on home soil i'd love to see him get down to antarctica see how he fairs down like he doesn't he doesn't play out of conference road game yeah you're saying like that is crazy you like did mega marathon in antarctica yes correct whoa correct battling a uh you know a david goggins type of guy. Special Forces dude out there

chasing after me. So how is it compared to the real thing? Because I saw that there's tents and bands that play. Are there bands on Mount Everest? We do it a little more mushy for our event in 2019-29 event series. You know, you pay to come for the weekend. We rent ski resorts out. You know, we've got an event in Whistler. We've done Sun Valley, Utah,

Vermont, et cetera. And it's great, man. You know, the challenges, we give people 36 hours to climb the equivalent vertical feet of Mount Everest. But you get to take a gondola down. So it's just up. There's no hiking down. The down's hard, man. Even on climbing Mount Everest, 80% of the real Everest, 80% of climbing accidents happen on the descent because, you know, you get to the

top and you're like, woohoo, I made it. It's like, wait, I got to get all the way back down. I'm exhausted. But it's a good challenge, man. It's cool. What I love about that event and why we created it to host the event is that, again, it's kind of like I was saying about the 12 hour walk. You got to train for it. You got to push like hard for this 29 and 29th, but like people have come to that event, having never finished a 5K or 10K before and grind it out for 36 hours and get to the top. But also we've had people, we've had Olympians, we've actually had a couple NFL guys, you know, kind of like bigger like jacked like dudes come and like not be able to finish it or quit halfway or whatever. We get it. It's about 50% success. But to your point,

we got chiropractors, we got massage therapists, we got nice food. On my two experiences, climbing the real Everest, we don't have that. So that's the part that's not simulatory. But it's a good challenge. I'm down for the, when do y'all do this? We got five events this year, two in Utah, two in Whistler, and another in Vermont. So, yeah, holler at me. We love to have you, man. Hey, yo, I'm definitely going to go.

I'm going to bring the shorty, and we're going to do it. Heck, yeah, I love it. I love it. Yeah, it's a good challenge. So, you know, 36 hours. You got 36 hours to go 29,000, 29 feet. My wife's sitting here. She's done it.

She's done a couple times. It's a good challenge And it's also a dope community What ends up happening is like I might be on lap 5 And you may it might be on lap 6 But like we end up walking You know with each other through the night

And you're like you know You open up to people right Because you're like oh man We're both out here doing this crazy thing And so by the end of the weekend You know a couple hundred people You feel like made some new friends Met some cool people

Because it also you know It attracts somewhat of a like minded crew of people The one thing that's different about it though What I will say Strangely harder Not actually harder than climbing the real Everest But you don't climb ever

in one chunk. Like, you don't climb from sea level to 29,000 feet in one push. Right, you got to acclimate. You got to acclimate. Base camp is at 17,000 feet. You're over there for a couple months. You go up and down, up and down. So the fact that you do it straight through is quite a lot of vertical feet. Yeah. You strike me as a man that's dined on quite a few stews. You big stew guy when you're on the mountains? I've had a stew or two. I've had a stew or two of my day. I feel like that's, that's the real attractive part of mountain climbing to me is getting to eat those stews late at night, just warming your entire body. I mean, there's nothing quite like, you know, it's like sleeping when you're tired.

So good, right? Sex when you're horny, amazing. Pretty good. For me, at least. Yeah. Like, I can't speak for whatever, you know. But a warm cup of something of food when you're starving and it's cold outside. I mean, yo, that's the jam.

The best. What's the best super stew that you've ever had? And I'm not talking strictly flavor. It's a combination of the flavor and also how you, you're feeling at the time, how cold you were, like the soup that hit different. Okay. Well, I'll say this is that what comes to mind, probably if I racked my brain, I think of multiple examples, but the funny version that comes to my mind is at the end of Antarctica, I was so, I literally didn't have enough food from day one. So 54 days in, like I had just been just starving. I was a bag

of bones. And finally, plane comes to pick me up and takes me back. I can't leave Antarctica right away. It's like, it's like a week to unravel the logistics. But the first place they take me, it's back to this like little kind of like makeshift camp it's got like a shack and like a little like chef, not chef, like a woman cooking some stews basically. And I haven't like eaten a proper amount of food in like 50 some days. I haven't even showered yet. They're like there's food in there. I was like food. And I go inside this little hut and there's like a buffet. It's got like this warm soup. It's got pasta. It's like it looks like a five star, you know, five star meal with a Michelin chef. but it's like just basic, like whatever.

And I pile like four plates full. Like it's like you're like a, I don't know, just like literally pile as much as I can on this plate and eat all of it. And immediately my stomach has shrunk like so much. I'm in like gasping pain. Like there's like sharp like needles sticking into my stomach. I'm like, ah.

But my brain is like, I don't even care, man. And I walk back up to the buffet and I feel four more full plates up and eat all of them. I'm probably eating 20,000 calories at this point. Now my stomach is like literally like, to throw up you and I was like dessert does somebody say dessert and I walk up and there's a full pumpkin pie and I was like I'll just have that whole thing and just take a whole pumpkin pie off and crush that and then wander back to my tent and like sit there in the fetal position

my mind was so satisfied my body was so angry that's got to be incredible feeling it was a good feeling man you know sometimes when you're when you're that starving I'm like I don't care I don't care about the sharp pains at the end of the hike across antarctic did you just do you stay out back and just like wait for the British guy to show up just checking your watch when you got there. The funny you should say that I actually elected to actually have the plane not pick me up as quickly. He was two and a half days behind me and I said um you know I was like you know what there's seven billion people on this planet and it was intense and it was a battle but at the end of the day I actually kind of let not let my guard down but I softened that I was like maybe because

I was first but also I was just like you know what like the camaraderie of this like there's one other dude and so I elected to wait for him at the very end and to be the first to congratulate him and we have actually become friends over time. Do you know what the advice he was trying to give you was? He didn't say that, but I will say the first thing he said to me. I think he meant it as a compliment, but when you really read between the lines, it doesn't feel too much like a compliment. I was there and I was like, congrats, man, like you did.

It's like, you know, no one had ever done this. Now you've done it second, but, you know, whatever. And he said to me, he goes, you know, I wasn't too worried about you this entire race. And I was like, oh. and he was like you know because I just figured Antarctica would just take care of you at some point you're pretty inexperienced the positive point of that is she's like good job you didn't die the bad part of it's like dude I just expected you to die so I just wasn't that worried about you yeah I mean to be fair let me hold on let me bang for it let me bang for let me bang for my guy right

quick because if you think about it you counted you out too true true true true you can't really can't really knock him that was a compliment man I choose to take that one as a compliment it's also just, you know, like you came in second. He's probably not happy, you know. He wishes that he was done at first. Yeah. But, yeah, just two competitors going head to head against each other. But you guys are on, you're on good terms now.

Totally. I mean, I think in the realm of good sportsmanship, whether you're talking about that, you know, at a Super Bowl, you're talking about that, you know, Olympic track rate, like, whatever, you know, as a professional athlete myself for a long period of time, when the rate, when you're on the race course, you're doing everything to win, you're trying to do or die. But I've always lived by as much as you might be personally disappointed that you didn't win. There's a lot of races, my professional triathlon career that I didn't win, that you still want to give, you know, a competitor a hug and a high five and say, look, man, like you were the better

man on the day. Yeah, I mean, you guys are competing. You're trying to win. You both wanted to be the first person to do it. And like, it's no secret going into it that one of you guys wanted to win. You weren't going to hold hands. Right. And walk across the ice. But at the end of it, when you're cross the finish line, you know, you got to at least show some respect. Yeah. Yeah. So we've been able to stay friends. Um, so when it comes to real Everest, I had a couple questions about Mount Everest because this entire episode is going to be wrapped around a discussion that will probably be much much stupider than the conversation we've been having because I think Billy wants to talk about Yetis for about 45 minutes. I promise to people listening, we're going to limit Billy's

Yeti talk coming up. Yeties play a huge role in the expiration of Mount Everest. Okay. All right. Yeah, we'll get into all that. I'm sure that. The first time you climbed Everest, were you, were you scared? Do you experience the emotion of fear because I know that we've seen the documentary of Alex Honnold and we talked to him a few years ago and his brain's just wired differently. He doesn't feel fear. Do you feel scared when you're doing these expeditions? A hundred percent, man. I think that, you know, there's a discerning level of fear.

I mean, fear exists, right, to kind of keep us alive at its base level. Again, we talk about those, you know, four to six range. I do think it's good to take on some wrist to step outside that comfort zone. But yeah, man, like, there's plenty of times when I've been afraid. One of the, you know, you pass dead bodies when you're on Everest. They can't take all, you know, literally. And I've heard it, you know, before my first time climbing, I'd read every book. I really know, John Crackhires in a thin air in the late 90s is like a book that's about in Everest

where eight people died, but for some reason that inspired me. That book makes me cold when I read it. It just got like 500 different words for ice. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. But what I will say is that, so. you read in that and one of the things is like there's dead bodies on the route climbing everest and of course you ask yourself like why like you know someone should take these down and people always say like look like

you can barely if someone breaks their leg you probably can't carry them down like you can't carry anything you're not you definitely can't carry a dead body you're going to endanger yourself more by trying to do so and it's nearly impossible if not impossible to move that and i always thought to myself i thought i thought you know well yeah that may i hear you saying that but if i was like in a rescue situation like i would pick the person up or you know whatever and after I summit it ever it's the first time I come off the summit and there's this knife edge long knife edge ridge coming off the summit it basically drops off like five 10,000 feet on either side and you're just on this tiny little icy precipice very gently making your way across and that's enough to just get your adrenaline spiked and you're exhausted you're tired

you can barely breathe but then I get to this right on the edge of that there's a place called the south summit a little tiny little flat spot just around surrounded by endless drop-offs and there's a woman lying there on her back with just her eyes rolled in the back of her head and I was like oh shit and then I looked closer and I was like I recognized her as a woman I had met in base camp a Brazilian woman by the name of Tice and I look down and I'm like oh my god like this is the moment like this is what I oh if someone's this like I'm going to help them and I lean down I try to put my arms around her and do my very best to like pick her up and I very quick like I can't move her an inch like I can't I can't move her like down this mountain I'm like oh

like, shit, like, there's, there's nothing you can do. And I start yelling. I start yelling. Ties, if you hear me, you got to get up. And the guy she was climbing with, he had her oxygen mask and it had gotten frozen with ice and he's trying to chip this ice out of it. And he ultimately, thankfully, the good part of the story is he gets that chipped out and he puts the oxygen mask back on her and she gets up. She actually summited the mountain and made it back down safely, which is crazy. But it was this intense moment of like, whoa, I'm going to just watch a person die here? And I'm not going to also have to just keep walking? Because there's nothing I can do. I got to save myself. So when I went back to Everest last year, I went over

there with my wife and a whole other crazy story. I talked about it in the 12-hour walk. She wasn't originally planning on climbing, but the badass that she is, she decided to go for it and push for the summit. We got her, which prepared and ready to go. But that was in the back of my mind that whole time, which is, look, like, if I couldn't move this woman, like, it's my wife, as a person I love more than anything in the world. And we're going to go, what's called the death zone above 26,000 feet on Everest is called the death zone for a reason because the human body, even if you're using supplemental oxygen, is slowly dying. And I remember that feeling of like this woman lying up there and I just started playing in my mind over and over and over again.

I'm going up there with my wife. I'm supposed to be protecting her, looking after her. Like if she trips and falls, if something happens to her, what I'm going to have to walk away like from my wife. So look, man, like seeing dead bodies up there, I've been hit by an avalanche on Everest. I've seen, you know, this woman, Tice. Like, I've, I've, seen some stuff up there that is definitely there there's a no shortage of fear that's for sure yeah it sounds terrifying um not for the faint of heart now where do you stand on the oxygen mask mask thing did you use supplemental oxygen i use supplemental oxygen uh my first climb i was trying to do that speed record for the explorers grand slam so quite literally wouldn't have been over there long enough

you body needs to acclimatites even longer and even that i was cutting it short i was only on the mountain for about three weeks coming from sea level of the north pole usually there for eight plus weeks before you attempt that. The second time I was over there to actually going to attempt without oxygen, a different project over there. But then when my wife decided to climb, I decided she was going to climb a supplemental oxygen. And for me to be the most lucid that I possibly could be, I chose to use oxygen. Here's where I stand on it. I think that it obviously makes a difference. It's more difficult to climb without than it is with. Climbing with oxygen does not take away from the challenge, the death-defined nature of it, the intensity and the

fulfillment that you reach from reaching to the top. I think the biggest thing is the only, the only knock that I have is where people have, people have done weird stuff where they've like climbed with it, but then claim they didn't climb with it. Yeah. You know, to me like that's own it. It's like, I'm on the summit of Everest, man. Like, there's nothing like, yes, I use supplemental oxygen from this camp to this camp or whatever. That's still incredibly impressive. Yeah. If you tell me that you did it without oxygen, I'll be like, well, you, I think you kind of want to die. Yeah. But if you do it with oxygen, it's like, wow, that's really impressed.

I don't think there should be any shame in doing it that way. So to me, with all climbing, I mean, Alex Honol and what he did is one of the most insane human accomplishments in my history to climb that without ropes. Like, you know, just from the craziest, the crazy to the day high, we're just like, say what you did and like be proud of that. Like, no harm to felt. Sounds like it's like, you know, reading the book versus listening to the audio book. That's what it says, the dilemma.

I like that. I like that analogy. I mean, still, it's ridiculously impressive to climb Mount Everest. What's the, what's the most treacherous part of climbing the mountain? Is there one specific pass or I know that, you know, there are some crevasses that you have to go over on the ladders and all that. Yeah. There's the ice field. It's also extremisators.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Carvass. Yeah. Carvass. Yeah. Oh. The, you know, a lot of people think about the summit and there's obviously reason that, like, you know, there's dead bodies up there. but the most scary slash dangerous part of Mount Everest actually happens on the lower part of the

mountain, which is from base camp to Camp 1. So literally just leaving base camp, grab the toe, basically the bottom of this glacier called the Kumbu Icefall. And this is on the Nepalese side. The Chinese side's different, but the most more common route is the Nepali side. That's the, you know, where Surahead Manilari climbed through. And the icefall is basically this consistently moving glacier. So there's no snow on this, which means the crevasses are not filled in.

And so you're, you've probably seen photos. You can look on my Instagram. You see photos of these ice, these ladders going across these crazy crevasses. And there's not just one of them. There's like 50 of them. You're walking on this metal rickety aluminum ladders. If they fall or if they shift, like you're going to end up at the bottom of a two, 300 foot crevasse.

And what's the craziest part about the kumbull ice fall is that it's constantly moving. It's literally a moving ice fall. So it's a frozen waterfall that is consistently moving. And so as you go through there, you go through in the middle of the night. because during the day it's a little bit warmer and so the ice is melting a little bit more but even when you're going through there in the middle of the night you're constantly hearing this like creaking and you're looking up above you and there's like a school bus size block of ice and you're just literally saying you're playing rush and roulette you're going like I hope this doesn't fall

today I hope this doesn't fall today in 2015 or 2014 excuse me a big shift happened in the ice fall and 16 Nepali Sherpas were killed in an instant and there's a lot a lot of deaths and a lot of that bodies in that ice fall because it's again in mountaineering you talk about objective hazards and objective hazards are things like a big rock fall or an ice fall or something that would like you know fall on your head or shift and you try to avoid those as much as possible it's one thing to be like my climbing skills need to be good to get up this wall so I need to hit this move or pull up or be strong enough to do this but objective hazards are just like stuff you can't control like you're like go walking under this ice field or the kumbo ice fall and you're like well hope it's

not my day. I'm going to move through here as quickly as possible. And so definitely when you step on that mountain, you know, you hear a lot of epic stories of the summit and there's plenty of those to go around. But the lower mountain is very treacherous and a crazy place. All right. Well, we appreciate yourself and by. Does anybody have any further questions for him? Last question. All right. And it's quick. I don't want you to plug anything. I want you feel, I'm just curious from my own thing. What's the best thermos? Best thermos. Good question. um best thermos i'm trying to think of the stanley stanley yeah that my thermos on an arctica was a stanley um

and i fill that thing up every single day and it was amazing i actually added i added a little bit of foam glutes and foam to the outside of it because the outside metal if i touched metal when it was that cold it would frostbite me but normally he won't be in that situation with stanley so no no accessories needed that situation dude i would be in antarctica minus 40 i put hot water the beginning of the day 24 hours later the thing was still piping hot so uh i'm not sponsored by stanley but a shout out that's ridiculous that you're not sponsored by stanley testimony like that we're gonna try to we're gonna try to make that happen i was just curious because it's like you know i'm i'm really thinking about doing

this uh ever's equivalent thing man i just takes my shortage i love it great well i'm a holl at you man i'm always do come and bring my stanley thermis all right you don't even need a thermis we we bring aid stations or water for you so you don't have to bring it thermos but you know you can bring it if you want were you were you melting snow for water melting snow for water some people are like yo thousand pounds of water must have been real heavy man yeah just you're surrounded by water but you just you have to fat white gas so you can melt the the snow into water and never eat snow right it doesn't I mean it doesn't do you any good it it dehydrates you because your body has to work too hard to cool or warm it up and the poop situation was just like poop play it as it lies just I would

you are when you got to go there's a trail of poop across Antarctica. Well, there is a trail poop across Antarctica, except for when you get within 69 miles of the pole, it's the last degree of latitude near that scientific research base. Antarctica regulations say you can't poop and leave it out there. So for a 120 miles, because both sides of the pole, I actually, my sled was getting heavier and heavier because I was just having to carry frozen, frozen poop. You were getting lighter. I was getting lighter. I was getting heavier. But then did you empty the poop bag out? One foot outside the radius, obviously. How bad is the how bad is the poop on everest um you know it's gotten better over the years but unfortunately

um it is not as clean of a place as you'd love it to be but it has honestly it has improved in the last 10 years so years ago because there's been some focus on that so um yeah well great hanging out with you guys and i appreciate you guys having me thanks for calling coming in your name's colin o brady and if you're looking for the book it's colin o brady the 12 hour walk invest one day conquer your mind and unlock your best life it's in stores now yep it's not Sounds fascinating and sign up for, what's the name of the day? 12 hour walk day on September 10th, if you're looking for a day to do it. But 12 hour walk.com, come sign up any day.

Anyone, you guys are going to, you're going to do in 29029, my man. But anyone doing the 12 hour walk? You know, who's in? What day of the week is that? That's a Saturday. Well, I look in, it's a week. Ah, okay. Honestly, what we do on weekends is way harder than you walk in crossing.

I mean, we watch college football. This is no joke. 11 a.m. until usually about 2 a.m. How many beers do you drink in that period of time? Actually, it's harder not drinking beers. So we have to do it on like live stream. Sometimes I'll drink. But, um, we, so it's about, let's see, it's called 14 hours of college football on Saturday.

Yeah. And then we go from 1 p.m. until about 1 a.m. watching NFL football on Sunday, very little break in between then. And then we stay up until like 3 o'clock recording a podcast afterwards. So that's like... So I'd say Tuesday is a good day for you guys to do it right after that

you know you're unwind a little detox get out there for the walk Yeah but then Monday night football I'm probably up until like 1 a.m. That's why I said Tuesday man I'm maybe

I'm looking at the week two schedule right now It's Alabama Texas I'm out of Tennessee pit There's some good games this day I might actually take you up on this I think it's an interesting idea It sounds like a challenge

Which is maybe not on the 10th for me Perfect yeah don't do the 10th You can do it any day, sign up any day, you know, the winter, you know, in the off season. Okay. Well, thank you very much for coming out. I'm going to introduce you to Big Cat if he's here because we were talking about the 20, what is it called, 2,029 on Saturday you said? We were talking about that last week. So I want him to meet you.

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Promocode stool 5 at 3Ce.com. okay that was a fascinating interview I want to talk more to that guy probably could talk for like two hours very well spoken intelligent dude look forward to getting with him in the future hopefully we can have something

planned for for meeting up with him to do some actual adventures things like that we'll have tell you what macro dosing live show at the peak of Mount Everest I'm straight I think I think I want to do that Utah shit that you're talking about for real for real

Like, I think I want to try that shit where they do the, with the Everest equipment. Yeah. If you, he said there was one in Vermont, you could come over here at East Coast and do it in Vermont. We could go, like, cheer you on. We all agree that. Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to do it. Billy, you want to do it?

Yeah, I'll do it 100%. Yeah. You'll do what I mean? Let's do it, Billy. Yeah. You can bring, you can bring a little side piece, man. Word. Love that.

I love that for us. 36 hours of climb I mean you definitely It takes some training But you got to do it Bill you got any more yak facts You want to unleash on us here Yaks

Or Yetties Yetis The Nepalese were never Conquered by the British Empire Okay They fucked them up But in My resistance

Yeah So they are They're the oldest Sovereign country In East Asia Okay It's pretty sick But yeties

I kind of think Yeties live in a series of underground caves That What's a group of Yettees called? I don't know A yodel? A Yatai

Oh, I like the Yodel. A Yotel of Yadis. I like a yodel. I also think Bigfoot and Sasquatch live in a bunch of underground tunnels underneath the national parks And that's why Teddy Roosevelt Distinguished those places

As national parks. To protect the Sasquatch? What's a group of, what's a group of Sasquatch is call it. You miss an opportunity to coin these terms. Assy.

A group of Yetis is called a flurry. A flurry. Oh. I like yodel better. I like a yodel better. Flurry is too easy. I feel like that's low-hanging fruit, though. Yeah.

What about Sasquatch, Billy? Sasquai. No, but it's got to be like, you know. You're just a murder of crows. Okay, you want to go like that's all of zebras. So. Is that squire. Ooh

This might be low-hanging fruit How about a jerky? Oh, that's good. I was thinking an orgy. Okay. Yeah. Oh my God, it's an orgy of Sasquatch. One next is another man's orgy.

All right. Anything else about Everest? Big T. Any Everest talk you want to throw at us? I don't think so. Okay. I'm not climbing it anytime soon. They should build a football.

stadium somewhere on Mount Everest just to see how far you could throw a pass. True. I say I wouldn't throw a football off of the top of Mount Everest. Yeah, how far do you think Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen could throw a football off the top of Mount Everest? Well, would it go far? That was the physics, yeah. It was the physics line that

it would, since it would go way downhill. Right. Like how far away from the peak would it land? It would be the longest pass in all the time. For sure. And the altitude would have something to do with it too. Like the altitude would carry it. Because isn't it like in Denver? Yeah, yeah.

So the air would be super thin. Right, so it would go like way far. I think if you just like put them there, if they were to teleport to the top of Mount Everest. So they're not exhausted from climbing. It's just them up there. They've got good footing, clean pocket. I think they could drop back. I think Josh Allen could throw a ball 600 yards.

600. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You think you're throwing it from the top of Mount Everest. and it's landing like on the ground or this is just how far they could throw it at that altitude. No, if there was a hypothetical. I'm not imagining like a plain football field.

You're imagining just down. I'm not including the down. Okay. So it's going 30,000 feet down to the ground. No, no, no. I mean like where it lands if you were to take a string where it lands and then trace that string back.

So it's on the same ground level. No. That's including altitude drop. I'm saying, yeah, have you ever seen like a golf hole? A physics. Have you seen a golf shot? So it's an extremely elevated T. Yes, that's what I'm asking.

So it's going 30,000 feet down. Yeah. Then it's going to be miles. No, but it's going to hit the side of the mountain before it hits the sea level. And we're not counting the down feet as accumulated. I understand that. Just purely distance where it hits the ground, how far longitudinally? Is that the right word?

Latitude. No, it would be latitudely. Latitude. Latitude. Longitude long. but you know what I'm saying actually you know what the ball would eventually start just dropping from the sky like straight down

it'd just be gravity so I'm probably I'm going to dial mine back and say they could throw it 250 yards I was going to say 200 200 to 250 yards that's my new goal that's so a lot

somebody should throw a football off the top of Mount Everest and also like Billy you have to do that so no that's that's what I was saying you get the record for the longest pass I looked it up. Someone brought a Nerf football up there and already did it. That motherfucker. How far did it go?

Well, he tore his groin doing it and it was a serious thing. Imagine if you could climb down and you died because you threw football on the top. That's fucked up. Yeah. How far did he go? Did he say that he heard himself throwing the Nerf football, but someone also hit a golf ball on the top of Mount Everest. That's pretty cool. I mean, if you were rich...

I'm excited about that. Yeah, what if... Yeah, there'd be a lot of pressure to, like, connect cleanly. Yeah, Everest. The Intrepid 10 handicapper used the club to strike three golf balls from the summit of Mount Everest,

the world's tallest peak. Someone did a golf shop off the top of Kilimanjaro. Do you say if you were rich, the last place I would go if I was rich is Mount Everest. To the peak? Well, I think if you get rich enough,

rich people get bored you think that would be on your list though I think some rich people they have that where like Ask Aryan There you go Life is so easy for

I don't fucking nature Crazy shit I'll do Is I'm probably like I'll just get some really good wine And just like that There you go All right Let's do

Let's do some voicemails How does that sound And next week Can we promo it Maddie? or the macrodose nano, nano dose Yeah, on Wednesday or it'll come out Thursday

we're going to start What's the Beef? And so in the Macrodosing Discord it's if you want to join the Discord it's our PIN tweet on our Twitter and we're going to start What's the Beef starting this week?

What is the beef? If you have a beef with any of us I cannot wait. Yeah, you can go into the what's right now they're just sending steak pictures in it, but it's coming so it'll be,

We record Wednesdays. So coming on Wednesday, if you have beef with us, we'll throw it in and we'll say, hey, we're about to do us the beef. Who wants to hop on and beef with us? We'll pick the best one. Be ready to have a mic or just, you know, close with the audio, we can hear you. And you have an opportunity. If you got problems with anybody, just talk about us, talk it out. Yeah.

It's going to go great. So let's beef. It's going to go great. But yeah, so that's starting this week. And just while we're doing housekeeping, the shirts that Billy. Sponsor by Beyond Meat. Yeah. And the shirts that Billy was referring to earlier, which him and PFT are wearing come out on August 10th.

So they're not out right now. But they will be out. Yeah. Can I get some? Yep. They're on their way. Okay. Just check your PO box so you never check.

I, no, you know what? My shorty right here, she checks the mail every fucking day. There we go. That's huge. So she just moved in. So you're checking the mail. I'm not checking that shit. So she going to bring that shit back.

There you go. But while we're doing housekeeping, it'll be up next week. So, Billy jumped the gun a little bit, but we're happy that he is so excited. Trying to hype him up. Yeah. So get excited. But, okay, ready for voicemails? Mm-hmm.

Do it. Hey, Matt, Rodeosan. It's Noah from Boston. Love all of you. I just want to comment on Big T. Collins, well, my bad sports town, and being unimpressed to the Coliseum. If you say just a brisk walk from the Coliseum, you'll end up at who's called the Circus Maxa, which did indeed hold 100.

thousand people. They did all of the looty, which is the Roman Games for, which included fighting animals, flooding for naval battles, gladiator events, track, horse racing, all of that shit. So they absolutely would have had the biggest stadium in the SEC. But my question is, if the podcast had to do a gladiatorial round robin, who would win? I'm mostly asking us to hear Billy try to explain why he would be very much. All right, no, straight up, let's talk about it.

I'd be the first to go, obviously. Maybe not, though. Oh, on the contrary. So, Billy would lose to a Maddielander. When he says, nobody would be afraid of Maddie. Is this with weapons or just like hand-to-hand combat? You would 100% be the dude with the net.

What does that mean? Do you know the different types of gladiators? It's a very specific insult that Billy has. No, it's not even... I figured him for the, uh, I figured him for the, the ball on a chain that swings. I figured him... Oh, that would rock. Oh, no, no, but I know exactly the guy that, like, you guys know the guy in Gladiator?

I think he has the net. We clearly do not. Ah, man. But that would absolutely be you. I think we're talking hand, would it be hand to hand? No. If it's hand to hand, it's just, it is what it is. Wait, Big T is giving you a discern.

well the thing is actually no the first thing we'd have to do is Aryan Foster versus a wolf I mean oh that's also true yeah listen I I get because that tweet was so viral I get at least three or four wolf picks a day on your social media accounts and I tell you it's a spectrum it's like I always tell people there are some wolves where it's like dog that motherfucker is a beast and then they send me some wolves where it's like bro I'm choking you to fuck out and so It depends on the wolf you send me. I think there are some wolves that, without a doubt, you could defeat easily. I mean, you might get bit.

You might, you come out a little worse for the wear, but you wouldn't die. Exactly. Avery against, I think Avery would loki kick my ass. He's a hockey player. No way. He's better with weapons. Like, rocked that shit. Yeah, you tough as shit.

Yeah, hockey players. Yeah. I wonder what Big T would do. Big T would be the guy with the net and the Trident, 100%. Yeah, wait. So what's our use of weaponry avail? Well, there's five types of gladiators. You all have to Google them right now and select which one you would be.

I'm a sword guy. I think I'd just be a straight up. I think we should all have the same weapons. No, no, we have to choose what type of... Oh, a little communism in you, huh? That's not communism. Obviously. Wait, were there female gladiars?

I'm sure there were. Yeah. No, no, that's fan fiction I'll take the spear On the background With a spear I think I'd have a chance against anybody Yeah

If I threw it well Like I could hit you And like I could potentially kill Billy Right off the bat with a good spear throw Okay so these But then if you miss you're just standing there So these are the six type of gladiators There's a tracks

Which is a guy with a weird shield and a sword There's a haplomachus which is a guy with a spear and a smaller shield which also looks like it has a blade there's the Murmillo which looks like a classic Roman square shield with a Roman

sword there's a Rittarius which I think Big T would be which is a guy with a trident in a net and then there's a scissor who's a dude who looks real creepy and has a sword in a weird what looks like an axe hand like literally he looks like he looks like

doesn't have an arm and he just has this little axe thing and then there's a secutor which i would like to be which is another guy i don't understand the difference to be the sequitore and the mermillo i think it's just their helmets but that's another classic shield sword guy the marmillo has like the shin guard like derrick jeter i like that's the second i'm team marmillo they all have shing guards no but the but milo just has one on his left shin i'm looking at this retarius and at first I'm like what the fuck do you have a net but let's say you swing a sword

and that shit's strong enough to withhold a cut you're rendering the sword obsolete or the spear and then you just that's it's pretty interesting if you get tangled up in a net

that's what I'm saying yeah actually the Rittarius might be the way to go I think so man I think I'm Rattarius now I like the the Laquarius

Laquarius has a lasso Wait, where are you seeing Laquarius? I'm on a different one than you. I'm going to see Laquarius. I'm just looking at what Bill. I thought there was only $6 billion. I looked. I did, worked with what I was given.

The Laquarius has a noose and a Trident. So he's got a last. Send that to the group, man. Well, actually, the thing is, there's even, is there even more? The weakest has to be Cizzer, right? Oh, no. Some of these are from video games, guys, in their fake classes. So we're looking for the OG.

How many different gladiators? How many types of different gladiators? He's guys really cool. I think there are five to eight different types of gladiators. But I think I think Avery would defeat me if it was me and him matched up. I think I think Arian would just absolutely humiliate and destroy Billy. He would be humiliated before he died. But you're doing like one-on-ones.

It's every. It's one v. No, he said round robin. He said round robin. Oh. Which I guess would be tough to do because in a round robin, every play, everyone plays everyone. That's impossible. It's twice.

You die. Yeah. So let's just say, if we're doing first round matchups, Big T against Mad Dog. Shit. What do you think you'd be most likely to kill Big T with? Like a weapon wise? Yeah. You've thought about this.

Big Tee, you know, I've never thought about how to kill you. Back in those days, the woman's weapon was poison, wasn't it? Yeah. I think a spear. Tell Searcy, I wanted to know it was me. I think I would do a spear just from a distance angle. Because I feel like if Big T also has a weapon, but I have a spear, I have a better chance of being farther away from him and doing that. Oh, shit.

Because I don't think I'm strong enough to corral him in with a net. You're not. Yeah. So I think a spear. I think you need to go for Big T's legs. Yeah. My initial thought is the legs. I think you just,

I think you're overthinking it, man. You got to out hustle him. I think you can get him tired enough to really just swinging his heavy. Well, if you run around in circles. Yeah, why would he chase me? Like, he would have to learn, like, he, I think Big Tee would realize he has the size over me

so he could be like, I'm just going to wait for hurting. If they weren't fighting this shit, then they'd like put like lions or something on. they had them both executed if they didn't if well yeah usually the gladiars were always always down to bang but if like the two christians that they put in there and were like you guys got to kill each other then they wouldn't and then they'd be like okay really like either you kill each other or we release lions to kill both of you yeah i think i would have to go with the spear to kill big with actually to kill any of you because i think you would all kill me but um i think i would have to go with the spear

and the hope that I would be able to throw it accurately enough to do some, at least damage to you. Honestly, no, there was archers. Shut up because I'm good at archery. Shut up because I'm good at archery. Okay, yeah, no, dude, you got, yeah. I could do a bow and arrow. I could do a bow and arrow.

I'd cat and has ever deemed the shit out of all of them. Okay, yeah. When was the last time you used a bow and arrow? Um, sophomore year of high school gym class. Thank you, though. So, that was like 2014? Muscle memory. Yeah.

Still. It was the last time you used a giant net. I didn't say I would use that Billy did okay then what was last time you used a spear like this is I could I could figure out how to use a bow and arrow quicker I've done it honestly the person that gets bow and arrow has an advantage we could all get bone arrow and you have okay I'm assuming you also have multiple bows arrows or arrows because there's a bow and arrow in play I got to get one of these cats with this with the shield yeah that's why you have a axe they just got an axe not I've been I've been played just the whole

This is kind of coincidentally talking about this, but I got this from medieval times. It's like, wait. My daughter made me buy it. It lights up. It's pretty cool. I want to get a battle axe. That is cool.

I really want a battle axe. All right. So, Mad Dog, wins. Yeah. Yeah. We're all smoked. Yeah. I would, I would,

Candice at Redding you guys. You'd just be like little Pita Malarks. Next voicemail. Eating in mud. Yeah. Spoiler, sorry. It's not a spoof. No, that's moving

out. This is Dan from Boston. I hope Mad Dog and Aryan stay beautiful and the rest of you guys stay handsome. I had a dilemma for the podcast. It's eight you walk in.

First day of your new job. 8.30, you walk in. Ready to go. Do some pre-work. Talk to your boss. And all of a sudden you get the shits. And you're not too sure about the shits. it's one of those shits where you can shit

right away and have it over or not shit and fart a lot but at the same time you do you do not want to blow up the company bathroom on your first day and you don't want to be known as the guy that farts everywhere so just a

little dilemma kind of like a short-degas box for you guys on this fine macrodosing Tuesday got got to go to the bathroom yeah yeah what was the question like shit your pants no no no no no no no not poop and fart all day or do you poop and have the chance of blowing up the bathroom

i'm gonna go at some certain people i think the softest shit ever is people who only use their bathroom in their house i used to have there's people who like won't use the bathroom at school and a public place no they say that If you have to shit, you have to. Like, I remember there was kids, like, I'm not scared to use a bathroom. That is what it was made for. I absolutely will avoid using the bathroom in public places at all costs, unless it's like I can't hold it.

That's what I'm saying. Like, I'm sure you try to, but like. Oh, I will do everything in my power, not to shit. Like, but like, let's say it's like like a stadium or like a public event like that. I will not. I will hold my shit. I do. I don't care.

What happens? So when you got to go you got to go though I'll be right I'll leave I would rather leave than shit and be uncomfortable and it's just the ickyest and grossest feeling I can't wait because because you don't feel clean afterwards that in the smell

wow like have you ever been in the bathroom that's like the toilets are all clogged up and everything smells like piss and shit it's like I'm not shitting in there bro would not doing it how you're well the thing dude wipes always they actually have some nice wallet size wipes that you can use for when you need to clean up to feel fresh

after getting out of the bathroom I'm not going to other stalls to clean those stalls to make sure I don't smell it while I'm doing my thing I can't Oh you can't even you can't even Using a bathroom that smells bad You can't do that I can't stomach it like I mean there's a spectrum

But you're own but you act like your shit Don't stink Not to me I don't like that I just saw an opportunity to use that cliche, but it's like, shitting's always going to smell bad, so everything else. Not like, there are times I would defecate and I'm like, that's not, that's not the best smell in the world. But it's mine and it's not like I know it's coming from me. It's like, it's relatively like normal. Yeah, there's a reason.

When it comes from another human, that's disgusting. Yeah, there's a reason for that too. It's because it's evolution, right? right billy i have no idea about you can get you can get sick if you're around other people's shit oh yeah that's probably but you won't get more sick from your own well you'll get sick from your own shit if you eat it yeah if you eat it but i don't know yeah you're probably right i probably way off on that one yeah i don't know those signs i would just poop like a normal person yeah just go poop get it over with everybody's poop smells because you feel more

uncomfortable like holding in a big poop yeah and then you feel better the whole day and you can be the new guy it is what it is Break the ice that way. Also. And if you're farting all day, like, who knows? Nah, that's definitely, yeah, it's definitely not it. Also, there is the, like, I will, though, use a certain bathroom. Yeah.

That's not offensive to other people. Especially here. Yeah, like, I won't use the pee bathroom. Like, there's just unwritten pee and poop bathrooms. Yeah. And people know it. Yeah. Oh, did I tell you what I'm doing?

In my house, I am installing downstairs a urinal. Yes. Oh, that rocks. That's sick. That's amazing. That's so cool. That's like the ultimate rich guy move like, hey, I'm just going to putty urine on you. It makes so much sense because it's like I pee the majority of the time.

But like I wouldn't like to have to clean up my, you know, stuff around the rim of the toilet. So my shortage don't either. So it's like just have my own little thing right by the toilet. Yep. And it can have one of those little pads underneath that when you, when you pee on it, it smells good. So it's a win-win. Why haven't they designed a kernel? A girl, a urinal for women?

Do we want to talk about just like the anatomy? There's definitely a way to do it. It just be a floor or thing. Yeah, just yeah, a floor with the drain. Yeah, it would just, it would those urinals rock, though, the ones that go all the way down to the floor. They do. I agree.

No, it would just be like peeing over a hole, really. Like how you pee in the shower. Because otherwise the onus is on them with, the aim and it's not as precise. Well, you just can't ain't. Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't know. Look, I was looking for solutions. No, I don't hate it.

I just got me away. I think what you're talking about is actually just a shower. Yeah. On Wednesday, let's rank urinals. Okay. Oh, yeah, I'm prepared. Was that out in Arizona where you saw the soccer ball urinal?

I think it was. Yeah. Yeah, that was a good one. Did we talk about troughs on this show? Did we Have we done that before? I think we talked with John Taff for about it a little bit. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, we did. What are your thoughts on Trots? The long, the long, the long, middle one?

Yeah, they have a time in place. Okay, well, yeah, we'll talk urinals. Okay, I like that. Okay. Put that in a notes file, their big T, so we don't forget. All right, it'll be in my teed-off notes page. All right. Yeah.

You don't like troths. Me? You'll have to wait. You'll have to wait until Thursday to find out. His tea. I just said, I just said, they have a time in place. Got you Like,

Neeland Stadium would feel wrong if they got rid of the troughs Man, it's been so long I don't even remember peeing in there Well, you also weren't peeing Like where Big Tea was peeing Those are facts

I like ice All right, we'll save this Okay Ice ice is good man Yeah, cool's drinks Are you gonna put Wait wait, wait We're giving it all away now

You have to wait Let's see the next voicemail Okay, last one. So, guys, Scott from Nashville, listening to, I think it was the beginning of this short episode, talking about Casey Anthony, some of those kind of high-profile cases, got me wondering, there was one unsolved case out there that you guys could get answers to, which one would it be? It could be unsolved murder, bank heist, whatever. Doesn't matter the crime, just has to be unsolved. which one would you guys get answers to Big T, chop on brother, everyone else

stay handsome, stay gorgeous, all that thanks, bye I have a question slash I want to potentially make an amendment to his voicemail I don't know of like any unsolved cases necessarily that I would like want to know but I know of cases that like I would want to know if someone was actually guilty or not

Right. So I think, can we do that? That counts. So I could say Kennedy, the Kennedy assassination. Right. It's been solved, but I want to know the details behind it. Right. And know exactly what really happened. Yeah, like what actually happened. Yeah.

I got OJ. I was just to say that's the obvious one. Yeah, OJ did it. I got three obvious ones. I need to know what happened with MLK. I didn't know who killed Malcolm X. And I don't need to know who killed two. in Tupac

Although we're pretty sure Who killed Tupac It was Orlando Brown But I just want to make sure You know what I mean If you had to rank those Which one's number one Michael Max

Why Chupac and out Biggie I grew up loving Puck I was anti Biggie Until I was like 15 Because Pock they don't like him So I don't like him That was just the Coast Wars back then

Billy you was too young for that I would say on the Coast Wars, PFT? Where was I on the Coast Wars? Well, I was... Like, I'm saying, what side did you side on? Or did you take part in it? Was that two Americas?

It was, it might have been two Americas, so I was aware of the... Damn. I was aware of the Coast Wars going on, but I was also, like, 11 at the time. I mean, I was 12. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't as in tune with as you were. I would say, if I look back on it, I think I prefer Biggie to Tupac. But, like, with the war,

going on between. I can't actually take a side because I don't know that much about it. I mean, you know, now I'm an adult and that they're both great artists. But like back then, like, like for instance, I didn't listen to a Jay-Z song until 2009 because of that shit. Oh, wow. You held out longer than most. But by that time, my musical taste developed the writer. So I just wasn't interested. And then my man's was like, yo, what's your favorite hold, John? We got to talking about a hole. And I was like, I don't really fuck with him like that. He's like, what the fuck do you mean? I was I just never really listened to him.

Like, I was like, I like Pac, I like Snoop. I liked all these cats. And then he was like, yo, throw this song. And so he played the evils on Reasonable Doubt. Brilliant. Fucking brilliant from a 26-year-old. And so I had to double back on his whole catalog. And now I think he's the greatest rapper that has lived.

That's growth. It is, man. It's recognizing you were wrong. It's opening your mind. Yeah. I mean, I can't pick a set. I like, I was listening to 10 Crackers. commandments a couple days ago.

Solid. It's really good. Like, if you just listen to the wordplay that he has and the flow that big he does, it's, and I'm describing maybe the whitest way possible, but it's just like objectively, it's objectively well written in like really fantastic music. Great production.

Everything. It's fantastic song. Flawless song. Yep. We had anything else? Oh, Scotty P. That's mine. Yeah, Scottie P.

Scott Peterson Well you could say OJ Technically Nicole Brown And Ronald Goldman's murders are unsolved Right? Yeah We don't know No, you still don't know

Files still open That and I would like to know More specific So what happened with the Gabby Petito case Was Brian Laundrie Yeah but it came out Did you see that it came out last week

That he basically wrote like a suicide note being like she fell hit her head on a rock and was like bleeding out and he killed her to like she asked him to like put her out of her misery that's just not that's right but i would like to know like what the details behind that were yeah more like he hit her in the back the head the details are that's cap yeah yeah i mean the guy blew his brains out i think so now he's like i can't i can't live with like i i dealt with things wrong and i can't live with you know whatever They were fighting the whole way On the road

I think what happened was That exact story that he wrote Except minus the part where she fell Yeah I think that's it Also he was he quoted a book About a guy who killed a girl out in the woods And he was like an eco

Eco-fascist No no eco-terrorist I don't think it was eco-fascist Yeah But I would like to know the details Of what actually happened Give me the full details Of the Epstein case

Yeah Yeah, it's good one. That's it. I mean, what are the names? Just, I want to see that. I want to see that book.

Show me the names. I would too. Yep. I think that would actually cause, like if those got released, it might tear the fabric of society. 100%. I want the,

I want the files to be released on all the Michael Jackson. I was going to say, I'm surprised you didn't say that. I was just about to say that. He said cold cases on, I'm not even worried about how. how he die. I'm pretty sure how you know what I'm talking about.

There's all the cases just so we can clear his name. A lot of those files are still locked up that can clear a lot of the accusations that. L.A. County has them. Or not L.A., um, fucking, uh, Santa Barbara. Yeah, maybe that's it's Santa Barbara. Yeah. Oh, you know what was fascinating when Bill, this is kind of related, but when Bill Russell, uh, Oh, R&P.

Yeah. Did we talk about it? Yeah. Damn, RP to Bill Russell, man. Legend, dog. On the... Lord of the Rings. On the same sort of discussion,

like, he got his FBI file on himself. Like, that's wild. Yeah. And it, like, disgust him, you know, like, a very bad way. Like, all the stuff that he went through. I read a tweet about some of the stuff he went through, like, you know, people doing terrible things to his house while he was away vandalizing.

And then, like, FBI. had a file on him that he was able to get through the Freedom of Information Act. Aryan, you might have a file. No question. Most black activists have FBI filed. I know my sister does for sure. I know my dad does. But if you have any kind of activism and if you made any kind of noise, like they got a file

on you. They've opened investigations. For sure. Wow. But yeah, I got a file. No, you don't. Could. You definitely.

Well, I can see the CIA having a file. You've made a number of pro-Saudi Arabia comments. Yeah. Now, they probably monitoring his internet because he, he casts a wide web of what he looks up. I'm pretty sure. Okay. You've hit this podcast.

I think this podcast is the tip of the iceberg where Billy be searching on it. You got a private server, bro? You got a, no, no, I call this. I, no. I, the farthest I've gone is 4chan. I've seen. In one time the Silk Road.

Furthest, furthest, furthest. Furthest guns. FBI is a file on Big T probably. I hate speaking truth to power. They do. All right, well, we will see you guys

on Thursday for Urinal Talk. And what's the beef? And what's the beef? So, Maddie, what's the best way for them to if you have beef, how does Maddie find out about the beef? So go to the Macrodosing Discord,

join the Discord, join the What's the Beef channel? and drop it in there. I'll go on when we're recording and be like, yo, let us know what the beef is. You should let them know what time to be on so that they can be available. Okay, perfect. So Wednesday at 1 p.m.

Wednesday at 1 p.m. Eastern standard time. Be on there if you have beef. And Avery and I will pick out who's got beef and then you'll be on the show with us. This is sponsored by Beyond Meat. Sponsored by Beyond Meat. This is going to get to existence.

Xbox. chat rooms real quick. Yeah. It's going to be get toxic as fuck. Well, the good thing about it is it's pre-recorded so if it gets too crazy we can just cut it

or edit it. Yeah. Or we don't. Yeah, why would we? Let that shit fly. And give out the usernames. Man, let's docks them. Addresses.

Suppose them. Yeah, if you're going to say some fuck shit, we're exposing you. Fuck, yeah. We docks here. But yeah, if you have beef, and let us know what the beef is, but I'm not just going to like choose

you're in a person. So let us know what beef you have and with who and then we'll chit-chat. Maybe we'll resolve some things. We'll work things out. Perfect. Perfect. All right. Love you guys. See you next week. Actually, no, see you Wednesday. Slash Thursday.