Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Murdaugh Murders

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the entire crew is back to talk the Murdaugh Murders, including the on going trial. Hear everything from how it started to all the up to date info on the case. Also, some listener voicemails to end the show. All of this and so much more on today's show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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All right. We're back. We're bad. It's Thursday, March 2nd. See you later, February. Onward, we're getting into spring. March comes in like a lion, right? Is that what the old saying is?

I've never heard that saying. In like a lion, out like a lamb? That's what I've heard about March. Stay tuned. We'll see if that's true or not. You've never heard that, Aaron? No, in like a lion out like a lamb. Yeah.

Yeah. I've heard I've heard I'd rather be a lion for a day than a lamb that lives forever. I've heard that one. I like that I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees and answer Nancy Reagan she did both

she did good for her it's good to it's good to have everybody's smiling faces in the studio today we are recording this on Tuesday just so you know in case anything major happens on Wednesday sorry maybe you guys can can punch in and and do like a little

addendum to the episode of something crazy happens tomorrow but it's Tuesday as we're recording it we're going to get into Murdaugh murders in a little bit there is breaking news and that's Patrick Kane is going to be New York Ranger well it's not breaking news there's only breaking if you don't watch big team hours exactly and you don't follow me on Twitter but

we've known this since Thursday the deal was done on Thursday and now now it's official if you want to give it to the insiders but we've known. We've been here. We're ready to go. 88's in New York.

Avery Scoops. How about it? Avery Scoops. That's about all I know. I'm not an insider. I just know a couple things or two about the Rangers inside. Yeah, you gave me that scoop. I put in that future live on Big T. Mowers.

Great stream. By the way, we're doing that again this week? I don't think so. I don't think this week. Next week. It's going to be a lot of tall grass. Take a week off. I've taken out a low.

for the business. What does that mean? You can take out a loan? You refinanced? Yeah. What did you use the loan money on? So I took out a $10,000 loan thinking I could buy the $9,000 lawnmower I wanted. But then right after I did that, it wasn't letting me select any lawnmower.

So I'm not sure. I have to go back and I haven't been in the game since. So I have to go in and see. But I took out a $10,000 loan to help jumpstart the business. Well, what can you use it for it? If you can't use it for lawnmower. paying. That's a great question. I'm, I'm eager to find out as well. How much interest are you paying on that $10,000? It wasn't too bad, I don't think. Is there principal, too, or just interest?

How many times can you refi? I don't know. I don't know about the banking. What happens if you don't pay them back? They take your shit? It's a good question. We could try that. Get repoed? Maybe I don't know. That'd be funny if there was like an integrated repo simulator. And the person that ran that business could then invade your game and take your mower. They might, like, garnish my wages. Yeah. But you're the boss. I don't know who, I don't even know who I took out the loan from.

I just took out a loan. Okay. This is it PPP? I thought you worked for somebody like named Victoria or something like that. No, I work for me. Oh. I have an employee. Oh.

I forget her name, something similar to that. I also found out something similar to Victoria Yeah Valerie It's a female name That's what I meant by similar I'm starting a V

I have like eight applications waiting from prospective employees I think I hired one of them So we're up to three In the big team over's family It's exciting Yeah we might do a stream I want to talk to you about that off the air

But yes We got some big things coming I think you just pumped Avery up into doing it Well, we got some big things coming for big team moors. We're setting, we're setting things up. And then, Aaron, you're coming to New York next week. Is that true?

That is true. All the anxiety aside, it's true. I don't know what the fuck is going on, but the last like three plane trips, I've just been having mad anxiety. But I'm still going to come, yeah. All right, we've got a big guest coming in the studio next week. So I'm excited for that.

I don't know what direction this is going to go. But it's going to be a great guest. I'll put it that way. when uh when are we doing the golf jump because getting good bro i i hit two birdies yesterday bro so i think what the plan is don't skip over my accomplishments avery i'm not i hit two birdies yesterday it's amazing i actually saw a

i saw a stat that um that like golfers only average like one more birdie than like the than the average golfer though did you see that stat i got to find it it was like a crazy stat it was like Between, like, a scratch golfer and a professional golfer. Yeah, is like two birdies. Yeah. So, Aaron, did you get your two birdies? Were they on par fours, par fives?

One was on a part five. The other one was with a part three. That's awesome. Part three is really hard, but I hit this. Oh, my God, I hit a great shot. But if the putt was like 10, I was like 10 feet out, I stuck it, but that was like 10 feet. I was like 180 out.

Sorry, yeah, 180 out. The most impressive thing for me is that you didn't really start that long ago. Yeah, I'm making up a lot of ground, but I'm also having a lot of free time. So, oh, I played the day too, right? Get up early, go go play. And granted, it's a country club, so there's only like 350 members. And so, like, it's kind of, it's really laxed. And so, but still the same golf rules apply, right?

There's a threesome ahead of me. And I catch up to them around whole seven, right? And like, I'm just sitting in, you know, it's like when you hit a drive and you're just sitting in a fairway. waiting for them to finish usually they let you play through if there's a three or four some and you're just by yourself usually let people play through because like they'll be behind you the whole time these dudes didn't let me play through the whole day that's i played them it's fucking i wanted to i was like they're just dweeby that's a dweeby thing to do because it's like

even if the the fuck the park is like i didn't wait too long but they changed the whole style of play because they knew i was behind them so like they would just like hit they wouldn't even look at each other like two people shooting at the same time type vibes yeah and i'm like why would you want to play like to enjoy your round just let me play through dog it's not that serious just a real dwebby thing to do and then he tried to say what's up to me afterwards and I just gave him the stale face not fair sometimes people just they get it's like a challenge of their masculinity if you're letting somebody else play through that's most of my round is just letting various people play through behind me yeah and it's and it's weird it's weird because

it's like I was playing really well too so it was like I was in the driveway like almost every time like why they were on the green you know so they see me on the they see me on the they would see me on the fairway not to drive the fairway they see me on the fairway waiting for them to shoot and then as soon as they run to the green like as soon as there's one dude with a green shirt as soon as he hit his put he didn't even wait for the other two he just went to the next tee i'm just like why do y'all play like it's not even fun playing like that like you enjoy golf like with your friends when you're like got money on a hole and everybody and too that's fun don't don't rush it just to not get past it's not it's not a it's not a race dog

it's golf yeah we got to play i so i'm going to be down in houston for the final four that Saturday before the games I might have some time Yeah that's where we were trying to figure out If PFT's schedule works I'm going to fly out and film YouTube playing Oh we'll set it up We'll do it at my club

It'll be dope I like that I like yeah you can find us in the club Yeah Living like real Democrats Yeah Let's do it It's gonna be amazing

I'm very much looking forward to that I gotta get back in the simulator It's been bad weather here in New York. Again, March comes in like a lion, so I'm dealing with that right now. And we got some snow. That's always nice to have that first bit of snow of the year. Yeah. You know what's my favorite part about March?

What's that? St. Patrick's Day. And if you haven't checked it out yet, check out the macrodosing St. Patrick's Day gear. Billy, I love your shirt. Right now I'm wearing the Dr. O'Shaughnessy, the Irish stoner shirt. Kiss me, I'm Irish. It's actually really cool. We made it in a Dr.

McGilliguddy's type style. So check it out for all you Irish stoners. So just represent the green on the greenest day. That's good. I like that. Check it out. And yeah, it is. It's St. Patrick State's coming around the corner. Do you have, how many weeks off are you going to take, Billy? I'll probably have the flu a couple days. Yeah. But it shouldn't be more than that. Pre-planning for the flu? Irish flu. Yeah. I'm excited about about everything that we've got coming up it's going to be a big few weeks here um so we got a big show today too the murdaw murders if you haven't watched on netflix check it out also just i've been watching all the murdoch content that i can get my hands on every tick tock i scroll it's him yeah uh they're a very

unique looking bunch yes bad look for gingers it's a very bad look for gingers for sure i now don't trust gingers at all yeah it did set the ginger cause back years years and years i now think every ginger is committed a murder and you got and you're super into St. Patrick's that's I'm not a ginger Look at your He's still in a now

Look at my hair But But your beer Okay there's a difference between being redheaded And ginger I think I don't think that you're a ginger But you do have red hair He's no I don't have a red beard

I have a red beard I have a Auburn tinted beard I have brown hair It's reddish It's brown You can see on the, like, where it changes. Let's get it drastically. Put it up to a vote.

We'll put a poll on. It is crazy how. Oh, yeah. Let's leave it to morons on the internet. I mean, these aren't remotely similar colors. I mean, Big T, you do have red hair. It's okay. I'm going to see it.

That's hair. Your beard is hair. Yeah, no one's knocking your hair. The hair on my head is not red. But you always wear. hat so people assume i mean you can see it right here i know but like people don't look at that part of the hair they they just think that the so people are ignorant when you when you wear tennessee orange it really sets off that hair he big t doesn't act like a ginger though he's good in my book well what's that

he's not a murderer yes i might be if y'all keep saying dumb shit proves the point uh arian what have you been up to these last A couple days. We missed you on Monday. I've been chilling. My daughter had to go through a little dentist operation. And so she was, that's the saddest shit in the world. If you got a kid out there and they go through the dentist, it was just traumatized. And she just, it didn't even hurt her. It was just like the loud noises scared her.

And they were in her mouth. And so it was just really, she was crying and it broke my heart. That's my baby, man. Yeah, the dentist is scary for sure. And there are kids specializing Dennis. And, but at the end of the day, you can't really make that a friendly procedure. Nah, no. And so she couldn't even finish it.

We're going to have to go to a specialist because she was just so freaked out. A lot of kids are afraid of getting their haircut, too. I never understood that. Why do kids hate getting their haircut? They think it's going to hurt? I think it's just the noise. I think kids just are scared of big noises. Like my son was scared to get his haircut, but then, you know, we kind of talked him down and showed her that it didn't hurt.

And once you show them, it doesn't hurt. They kind of calmed down a little bit. Well, my kids, I know I can't speak for everybody else's. You know, some Orthodox Jewish families don't cut their kids' hair until they're three years old. Well, how old do you get your haircut? How old are you when you get your first haircut anyway? Well, it's usually, so like for me, my mom would give me haircuts with a bowl type stuff. That makes sense that you had a boy cut.

And then what happened was that once you got to like to go get a big boy haircut with dad, go to the barbershop and like because you wanted to be like adults so you like didn't like freak out in the barbershop yeah whereas like when mom was doing it it was chill but like when like the all the razors came out like yeah i think it's like a scissor razor razor fear yeah i remember when my dad was teaching me how to shave he just gave me one of the razors that didn't have a razor in it so i just pretend that i was shaving i thought that i was actually shaving my face next to him for a while and then I just never

I just never got a razor I never need to wait time about you was getting razors at as a kid well so when my dad would he'd be like okay I gotta go shave now and I'd be like I want to I want to shave like that no no no I'm talking to Billy he said it's scary when the razors came out

you was getting razors as a kid no like you know at the end of like your haircut they take the razor out and like line up the edges as a kid I don't remember well I wanted a big I wanted a big boy haircut like where it wasn't like a bowl like I wanted my like I wanted a shape up

I wanted like sides I want to look like an adult you want to fade I wanted a buzz cut I was like yeah yeah I could be misremembered I just don't remember to raise a jump no you know when they take remember the edges no I definitely I mean I get I get I get edged up all the time been doing haircuts for years i just don't remember them doing on me as a kid like

with the switchblade razor jump with the hot foam the hot foam does feel good well basically once the amazing one's out on the face just remember my first haircut like the barber like what i was like oh it's your first haircut ever that your mom's not doing and he like brought it he pulled out all the stops i would have loved to see bill get his haircut with a ball as a child had a bowl over my head, my mom would cut it. That's awesome. But you look sweet. A couple of things I wanted to get into

before we jump into the Murdole murders. The Oscars are putting a plan in place to protect all the presenters. Everybody on stage in case Will Smith comes up on stage and slaps them this year. So they have like a detailed security plan and Chris Rock has started to talk about about what happened that night.

Have we reached a point where like, I don't know, I feel like Will Smith, his name was way, way hotter a year ago right after the slap and then it all cooled off. If anybody want to hire Will Smith, he should have already done it already, right? He hasn't been working that much, but I feel like with the buzz that was going on about Will Smith, they missed a year of market, like free marketing for Will Smith. Well, wasn't he in that movie recently? I don't think they didn't tape that after the, after the slap, though. I don't think, I don't know.

I don't think he wanted to be, like, as prevalent after that. Because he kind of went into a hole afterwards, you know what I'm saying? Kind of hit about it. And waited it for it to die down a little bit. Because I don't think he was very proud of that moment. But I don't think anybody's, I mean, even if you do, I don't think any significant is anybody going to look at Will Smith. Like, I'm not going to support Will Smith because he slapped Chris Rock.

You know, even though it's wrong, you know, I don't agree with the jump. But, you know, I don't even think Chris Rock. What did he say about it before? he's just he's he's trying it out in his stand-up so he's just like yeah people ask me if it hurt yeah it hurt real bad he played mohammed ali i played pooky he's one of the goats man yeah nah i don't think i mean shout out to them man for not you know taking it further than needed to go but it was that was a wild moment i forgot about that honestly they're going to have to do something at the oscars this year with chris rock right like he they have to

it's going to be a disappointment if i watch the Oscars and nobody gets slapped. She'll like that really set the standard. He should walk up there with like a bodyguard or like Mike Tyson and just be like I brought some muscle this time. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be good. That would be funny.

But yeah, the Oscars are putting a plan in place, a security detail to prevent any future slappings. I say let the boys slap each other. Is that for comedic or any serious with this? I think they're being serious. Like they've established new security. There's, it's just funny. It's funny to watch two guys in tuxedoes fight.

do you think they're going to mention it like do you think they're going to make a joke about it absolutely a thousand percent if they don't they're dropping the ball bill billy crystal oh love him i hope he crystal's hosting it i probably that's just who they usually go to they got to bring back english guy english office oh rick jervais i love that guy you love ricky yeah yeah rickie he's not as funny as he used to be he wraps me the wrong way he's right he does i don't think he rubbed me the wrong he's just not as is used to his monologues at those award shows were killer yeah like i i like it when the people get up there and they like they fucking roast people and they bust their balls because a lot of

people in hollywood can't take that and they take everything very seriously and they'll do something stupid like react and slap you but uh we need we we do need to have just a uh a person who can get up there to take all of hollywood data peg uh big tea how you doing what are things like in Big T's life? I'm good. I did. I woke up this morning. I'll read you the text.

I had a text that I had received at 1 a.m. From one of the doorman in my building. Oh, it sounds fancy. No, it's not. It said, hey, Connor, be extremely careful leaving your apartment. There's a full grown rat in the staircase. So I dealt with that this morning. Saw it.

Saw it as I was leaving the building. Full grown. yeah it was it was not small um that was the only uh only real thing that's happened to me since we last spoke why didn't they get rid of the rat i think they were trying to uh i don't know exactly was it alive oh yeah oh so wasn't a dead rat it was a live run no a dead rat would be very easy to get rid of oh damn i would think in a live rat in a staircase would be easy to get rid of too you just open the door at the bottom of the staircase i'm assuming there was more than one.

Yeah. That's why you need the Second Amendment. Go down there and start blasting. Just went down and start blasting. Take that motherfucker out. Rats are very smart. So maybe the rat was outsmarting your door, man.

I think there was some sort of tunnel it had created to get from the basement of the building, like, into the main area. So I'm assuming it was going back and forth between there. Once rats start freaking out, that's always a good sign to get out of wherever you're at. I mean, some bad shit's about to have. happen. Yeah. Other than that, uh, nothing. Okay. All right. Well, good luck with the rat. Did you get a picture of it? No. Oh, you got to snap the picture. I took a picture of where it, uh, scurried back into. Got it. Got a nice little cavern. I got duped. I got duped by some propaganda regarding rats. Yeah. I saw a video of, uh, New York street vendor that was, that was

barbecuing rats on a kebab over charcoal grill. And I thought it was real because I, I, I clicked on a link and then I read an article about the fact that there's like two street vendors that have been doing this where it's not legal but they're selling rat meat and apparently that was it was propaganda that I fell for what kind of propaganda it's illegal to sell rat meat for sure yeah I'm pretty sure it is in retrospect I should have known hand up also I think it's guinea pig in Ecuador oh really yeah I think that's what yeah it's guinea pig in Ecuador I knew it was in New York because I looked at the surrounding And as a New Yorker, I can kind of pin where everything is, which is a delicacy.

Actually, is it Ecuador? No, it's Peru, Peru they eat guinea pigs. That's where, like, dating back to, like, the Aztecs and Mines, they used to raise guinea pigs and eat them. And then they called them guinea pigs because the Spanish, you could buy them at the docks for a guinea. Oh, interesting. I thought it was because they were from Papua New Guinea. No, they're from South America. They're like smaller capi bears.

And I know what a guinea pig is. Yeah, but like that's like cabbie bears from South America. So just like that you can see the etymology of evolution there. Yeah. For the record, I would not eat a rat if it was if it was barbecued up and present to me on the street. Are they marketing it as a rat? No, it was just it was a fake thing. It was a fake thing from a different country.

It was a video from a different country and it wasn't even rats and I fell for it. And then I felt stupid because I should know better. Would you be mortified if someone fed you something? something that you didn't know what it wasn't after they said it was a rat? Yes. Really? And what if you thought it was good, like that you're like, like, ooh, this is good? And then they're like, well, it's a rat.

No, I'd know. I'd know. I could taste rat. No, I've, I've eaten squirrel and rabbit. And it's basically a chicken wing. And so a rat, I wouldn't imagine to be that much different than squirrel meat. Yeah. Maybe actually a little less gamier if it's in an urban environment. Ew, Billy.

You can smell them on the street. think they're not going to taste weird? But hold on, I'm having trouble finding it's legality. It's, it's illegal to sell rat meat. I don't know. I don't know what the law is. That's what I heard you'll just say. I would

imagine if, yeah, if you were frying up rats on the side of the street, that's got to be against a dozen health codes. But why? You know what? I think it's probably against slaughterhouse code. Yeah, because it, oh, I don't know what's it. Because you can only kill certain

animals like a lot of farmers have to send their animals away to be slaughtered yeah yes it's probably a health code violation you just like trap a rat and then cook it and then sell it somebody it's probably one of those things that never was officially made illegal because everyone was like we all went through the bubonic plague like that too like we i don't think i don't think it's illegal man i'm not i'm not i'm not saying it i think it's illegal to to find a rat kill it and then sell it because if you're going to be a a food vendor you have to work with the department of health And I'm pretty sure some of that has to do with meat preparation and meat storage. And I'm guessing that you're not abiding by all those codes if you're killing free-range rats.

I think it's illegal to. And you sell free-range chickens? Chicken meat? Yeah. You can sell it. Well, no, you probably can't catch a chicken on the street or a pigeon. Yeah, that'd be the same thing. You can't catch a pigeon and then sell that meat in a street cart.

so I saw a video that was real of a guy throw out a huge net he like threw out a bunch of I thought he was feeding the birds in the beginning of the video then he went into the back of his van grabbed a huge net threw it over all the pigeons and then grabbed the bag and threw it in his in his van and a lot of people thought that it was like they're taking it to a people were the video was marketing it as he was taking into the Chinese restaurant to put in the chicken like you don't know what's in your kunk pouch. That's racist. I know.

It was racist. It was racist. But I then did the research. They were selling them to shooting, shooting preserves, the place like where you can just, like, tower hunts where they throw tons of pigeons out to tower. And they're just blasting them. So, but like that's a, that that's like the fake news part that if you look deeper, like, yes, he was illegally catch. Actually, I don't know if it's illegal to catch pigeons. That's probably another loophole.

You can catch him. can you catch him you can catch anything yeah Mike Tyson huge pigeon guy yeah huge have any of you seen the old movie on the waterfront I have not seen that

but I did see ghost dog the way of the samurai and Forrest Whitaker was a big pigeon guy I'm kind of think about getting into pigeons now you should get into pigeons I like they're pretty easy to keep like especially in an urban environment just like have like a little box

with a couple pigeons and then like give them to people so they can send them me homing pigeon messages Yeah. There was a guy that I knew growing up. He served in World War II, and his job was to train pigeons. He was a pigeonier. Yeah. And guess, and the Nazis trained eagles to catch the pigeons. I'm actually unlocking a history channel documentary that I saw when I was like eight in my brain. Like the Nazis used to train eagles to catch pigeons, especially on the coast of Normandy that were going back to England. Because like when parents. Troopers would get dropped behind every energy, enemy lines. They had like a pigeon with them. And then they like spies would send coordinates.

Yeah. And that was always really fascinating to me. Yeah, that was his job, was he was a pigeon keeper. And so he would send messages back and forth with the pigeons. And he just, for the rest of his life, he owned pigeons. He would take them out and just fly them around every afternoon, give him some exercise. But yeah, that was a job. And he would tell me that the Nazis would hunt his pigeons.

Like falconers. Yeah. I don't think there were eagles, I think. they may have been, but they got falconers. Some sort of bird of prey would attack his pigeons. Did they make an animated movie about this? I don't know. About the Nazis capturing pigeons?

I haven't seen it. There's like a, wait, pigeon. It's possible for sure. Valiant 2005 film. It's about the birds, the war pigeons during World War II. I saw this in theaters when I was six. Is it animated film about war? pigeons. Yes. I do recall

that movie now. I did not know it had Nazi tie-ins. I don't think they put it in the movie, but they were avoiding evil falcons. They were fighting an unnamed war. Paragrin falcons. Jesus, with a big... Wow. That's...

Holy shit. Yeah, I've never seen this movie. We might have to watch it. I remember watching it. Don't remember the plot, but that was... Set in May of the year, 1944, tells the story of a group of war pigeons during World War two. Yeah. Okay. I'm in. Oh, I still got to see cocaine bear. Yeah, you do. Fuck. Um, anyone to go after this or I'll just go alone. Ricky Jerva's is in the war pigeon movie.

There you go. Imagine if I just sublimely like, why do I like Ricky Jervas? It was like War, War Pigeon movie 2005, but I was six years old. Oh, Hugh Lorry's in there, the guy from House, John Cleese. A lot of Brits. How about that? All right. So check out Val. I'm sure you can find it streaming online somewhere. There's a couple of other stories I wanted to talk about quickly. I was reading the other day about the JFK assassination in my spare time. And the guy that the doctor that they sent in to talk to Jack Ruby before he stood trial and before he like went insane because he was diagnosed as being insane and paranoid schizophrenic

towards the end of his life, the doctor that they sent him into trial. talk to him, turns out he was a CIA doctor that worked on the M.K. Ultra project of mind control. This dude whose job it was, one, he was a specialist, I think in the Korean War. He was a specialist who was able to extract false confessions from people. So that's how he got famous. And then the CIA hired him and then put him in the MK Ultra experiment conducting these experiments of mind control. I think he might be the guy that poisoned the elephant to death on LSD. I'm not sure. But that's the dude that talked to Jack Ruby, the guy that shot Lee Harvey Oswald.

And that's the guy that he was the last doctor to speak with him before Jack Ruby went insane. I'm absolutely convinced that the CIA knows how to make people go insane and also like manipulate them to become assassins. Like for example, RFK's assassination, I was reading about this. Sirhan Sirhan Sirhan Sirhan was a terrible shot and he might have never even hit RFK

and they think the security guard behind RFK actually I think they pretty much can prove it because of all Sirhan's bullets like hit there were six bullets in the chamber eight bullets all of them missed

but he was a diversion for the security guard behind him from the hotel to shoot RFK and RFK Jr. went on and he's like he has a condition

so it's hard for him to tell the story but he's just like 100% RFK was killed by this security guard behind me. Yeah, I don't think that it's been proven. I'm going to put an asterisk on Billy when he said it's been proven. I think it's been proven that there was eight bullets

that did not hit RFK and there was only eight bullets in Sir Han's gun. So which bullets hit RFK? Yeah. I have heard that there are more bullets fired than his gun could have contained. So if like they shot up Suron,

Serran with some sort of like hallucinogen that they've crafted up but like a like an LSD and then just like because he says he doesn't remember it. Surround Saran Saran says I have no recollection. Yeah that's what that's what Jack Ruby said when he was when they jumped on him on the ground after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald. His reaction was what's going on? Why are you guys on top of me? What just happened? Have any of you ever fainted? Yes. Or like gotten knocked out? Yes. They're used to be this thing in high school where you would like go into like a fetal position and it would knock you out. Oh yeah.

Oh, yeah. Which made no sense. Oh, go up against the wall. Yeah. Like start hyperventilating and try to stand up. Yeah. People would do that all the time and I'd be like, what are you doing? Like at recess.

The teachers would like freak out. Yeah, if you like compress somebody's chest. Yeah, I've never seen that one. You can make somebody passing by laughing. You imagine just being a teacher just going about your day and then like there's this new fad in the school that everybody's trying to pass out. Yeah, I do remember, I remember something about like you would do, you would breathe in and make yourself hyperventilate and then somebody would compress your chest. Sounds pretty dangerous.

There was also one where if you like blow on your thumb as hard as you can, you can pass out that way. Kids did that for like a week. Yeah, being a teacher sucks. Those are the kids that just started doing whippets. Yeah. Like for some reason, they want to pass out and like huff whipped cream. Wait, Mad Dog, when did you pass out? I was 10 and I was up, like, sitting up on my bathroom sink and then I got down and I hit the middle of my spine on my doorknob and something about like hitting my spine.

I got the black dots and then I fainted and my parents found me on the floor. Oh, my God. I don't know if that's fainting. I actually have a very similar story. Really? Yeah, I was like playing around. dude's at school I was like playing around in the library and like I ran and jumped onto like a bean bag but right behind the bean bag was like a hard edge of a bench and that bench hit me right like in

the small yeah yeah it's not the middle but like right to the side of it and I just like was like oh I got I literally like blacked out and I woke up and everyone was standing around me like what the hell just happened yeah I got in a car accident an hour later too well Bad day. Yeah, so that's how I passed out. I mean, that's fainting, isn't it? Yeah. Imagine waking up from that and it was just like, you just shot the president.

I mean, not the president. What? You just shot the guy who shot the president. I'd be like, sweet. Vengeance, bitch. There's another story that I read regarding a president in the news. This was on, I think I saw this on Today I learned. Sometimes I just go to Today I learned on Reddit and just like learn new facts.

did you know that Richard Nixon wanted to be a rapper? What? Yeah. Trash. He said an interview

with Washington Post back in 19 I think it was like the late 80s. He said, I have often thought that if there had been a good rap group

around in those days, I might have chosen a career in music instead of politics. There was many great rap groups around in the late 80s talking about he was trash i would love to hear

you think he has unreleased tapes yeah his unreleased tapes he drops the end bomb a ton see that is that real yeah oh yeah yeah yeah the nixon tapes from the white house he recorded everything he's just paranoid oh i thought aryan was just saying like that he that it would be trash i didn't know there was actually i am i am also saying that yes oh wow like he's the one that started the war on drugs how good could his rap lyrics have been true his tapes he dropped like every slur imaginable under the sun did

no not like rap tapes avery i think are you thinking that he actually made the songs yes no no no no no he just really has recordings of him being a dick and racist oh that's bad and he used to booze his face off oh yeah he was always drunk so so nixon actually ordered nuclear war to start several times over the course of his presidency and there was like a rule that was in place an unspoken rule which was just wait till the next morning because he's blackout drunk right now

and ask him if he still wants to launch a nuclear weapon so by the letter of the law I think we had talked about this when Trump was in office where like some generals were saying that there was something in place where if he wanted to launch something they would have like a back channel discussion but Nixon actually did try to start

nuclear war on multiple occasions and i guess it's against the constitution what they did right they were like well he's he's clearly drunk so we have to disobey his order well i think at the same time like imagine like you know you're telling your buddy who got drunk at the bar and try to fight some dude for like some stupid reason and you just wake him up the next morning like yo dude why did you get into it with that guy last night he's like oh shit like i can't drink tequila yeah and it's like wake nixon up nixon you tried to fucking bomb china last night. Yeah, I got, I got blackout drunk and ordered the deaths of a hundred million people. You almost did nuclear holocaust last night. Yeah, he's like, oh, not again.

Oh, shit. Not again. Not again. I'm taking next weekend off. That would, man, it's crazy to think that that's like, that actually happened. That could be a thing. There's no safeguards in place. Like, they just have to, like, deny his orders. There's no safe cars like, you know, you probably shouldn't have the reins, dog. Like, yeah, I should not be in charge, man. If your president should, should you be allowed to drink? Yeah. You need some to blow off some steam. Yeah, you need to. Yeah, but okay, you're not allowed to have three beers and drive a car, but you can have three beers and order cruise missiles to be launched halfway around the world. I mean, not on the job. I think you're always on the job. It's always the job. I think if you're

job. I think if you have to make a big decision, you should not be able to drink. And if you, and if you are, and if you have been drinking and have to make a big decision, it should go to second and command. You think a president's ever gotten called into the situation room just hammered? Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. Especially back in the day. They were always hammered. Probably JFK. Yeah, I was going to say 60s. JFK for sure. I think they need like an hour in their week where they can just go ham. But then that's it. Well, they probably, I mean, that's the day. If they, if they get They get faded. It's just the day.

The day's off. But they take a lot of days off. They'd be golfing like a motherfucker, though. Yeah, every president has to golf. What if there was a, like, okay, Biden golfed, Trump golf, Obama golf, W golfed. Now watch his draft. Yeah, that's right. Clinton, did Clinton golf?

Yeah, for sure. I think Clinton would just say that he was exercising so that he could get out of the house. No, didn't they actually, am I crazy? But didn't they, like, something about a cart girl? and Clinton wasn't allowed to golf. I don't know about that. I mean, it wouldn't shock me. I do know that when he was governor.

Like literally Hillary didn't like him out on the course. Yeah, when he was governor of Arkansas, he used to say that he was going out for a jog, and he would sometimes just have his personal driver drop him off at a girl's house. Here's a picture from 2008 of Bill Clinton, Trump and Rudy Giuliani all playing golf together. Oh, that's right, yeah.

Trump's course. It's a big, club and you ain't in it by the way George Carla rest in peace yeah go reading up on how some of these southern law families operate under the Murta's makes me

absolutely think that Clinton kill count is a thing okay it convinced me go on like the fact that it exists like the type of coverups and stuff exist in small counties like like because it turns out the Murtaugh family

isn't the own like depending on how your district is set up and depending on the state like these people can have so much power and influence and the mirtas weren't the only family in that area in another district there's like another family which i got the inside scoop from a local he's like there's like three of those families up and down the coast of south carolina that just run that shit you just run it but it's like a fiefdom think about yeah i always say that they're like warlords they control everything And if you're a kid growing up in that environment, like, that's got to be, you have a get-out-jail-free guard because your dad is the one that's in charge of selecting who to prosecute. Yeah.

Well, yeah, we'll see that here. Yeah. Also, we're going to have to get into this eventually. Might as well do it now because Billy just said Murtaugh, like, nine times in a row. There's, there's like a million different ways that I've heard this family's name pronounce. And it's not just the last name. It's also like. Elek.

There's Elek for, so his name is Alex. Murdaugh. He's the guy that is currently on trial for double murder for killing one of his children and his wife allegedly. And his name is Alex Murdaugh. And I've heard his name pronounce any combination of like Alec. He says Alec. Alex. Alex. Murda. Murda. And there's probably a couple others. He says Alec Murdoch. Yeah. Alec Murdoch. I think that has to do with accents. I think it's accents. Accents, pronounced Nate, pronunciation and then like old south accents.

Yeah. Like, like old, old south. Yeah. They are very much like you feel like you're in the year 1850 when you hear them tall. That family 100, well, 100% definitely we're in the KKK. Okay. Just so you know when you knock on wood during a podcast.

I meant to say allegedly. That doesn't, that doesn't qualify legally as allegedly. Yeah. Just like 100% that type of power. Like, definitely, like, could totally imagine those are the type of people to do that type of thing. Yeah, allegedly. Allegedly. Knock on wood.

Yeah. Do you guys want to just get into the murder all shit? Well, there's one other story that I saw yesterday. Hold on. I was looking at, just to backtrack for a second, I was looking at which presidents I played the most golf. You had to guess which president played the most golf. Who would it be? Trump.

You play a lot of golf. Everybody's shooting Trump? I'm going to say I feel like that's the obvious answer There's got to be somebody else Eisenhower I bet you Eisenhower's nasty Woodrow Wilson Played the most calls

Huh Yeah they said he played over A thousand rounds Oh shit Damn good for him Also Woodrow Wilson when he died Or before he died

He had a stroke And I think it was like a full year Of his presidency they just kept it from everybody and his wife was in charge of making all the decisions and she just wouldn't tell people that he was like basically unconscious

for the last year of his presidency damn yeah kind of crazy Woodrow Wilson interesting he wouldn't strike me as a golf guy they said he had a great swing that's what the article said

yeah that's really the one perk of being president is you can since you are working all the time You might as well be working on the golf course. I'd pull up. I'd pull up to the dopest. I would go to Augusta. I would go to like Pebble Beach.

I would go to the dopest golf courses in the world. Do you think that you get a special golf cart, like the Air Force One of golf carts? Of course. And I would trick it out. I'd be like, yo, the president wants to bring his own golf cart. And they're like, what are you going to say no? Yeah. You bring that sucker with you, put spinners on it.

have a sound system. I don't know. I don't know if you're going to dial it back to 2008, but are we not doing spinners anymore? Them shit's been out, man. He used to call them Spree Wells. You remember the shoes? LaTrell Sprewell had shoes that had spinners on them. Coley used to wear them all the time.

They were da-d-d-d-d-s, weren't they? Did-d-d-s? Was that the name of them? I think they were da-dye. I had spinners on my minivan when I was in high school and in college. that's wild though please tell me you have a picture of this I might I'll have to track it down they were hubcaps so they weren't even like the real of course they were hubcaps it was like 30 yeah it's super expensive it was like 30 dollars a piece at Walmart got spinners and then

somebody stole my hubcaps one night do you think damn yeah oh damn do you think a president ever smoked weed in the white house or on the job yes yeah for sure who in the white I don't about in the white house maybe but yes yeah wow jfk president i don't think jfk was a weed guy jfk was a huge weed guy he used to go like yeah there's this bar in martha's vineyard i want to say that

big joe bought and it was like a jazz bar and like i legend has it that all the kennedy boys just smoke weed in there and in party with the jazz players my guy said legend has it yeah i mean it's not confirmed i just heard it from a dude from really old. I've heard that in a long time. Legend has it. JfK did roll with some like some pretty cool people back in the day. Someone definitely smoked weed in the White House when he was there. He had bad back pain. Yeah. He was definitely popping pills. JFK was a pill popper. He's a big pill guy. He was a big golfer too. Let's see. Bush probably not because he was sober.

Imagine if all he did was smoke weed. If he was California sober? Yeah. I could see that. Obama might have Nah, I don't think so Chum Gang You don't remember the Chum Gang? No, no, what was that? In his memoir he was talking about When he was in high school

He would have a group of friends That he would hang out with after school Called the Chum Gang And they would just sit and smoke weed Oh, I don't doubt that he smoked weed I doubt that he smoked weed As president I think his margin for error was so low

And he knew the amount of pressure on him I think he kept it pretty tight I think he did before the Iran deal Nixon wanted to cause nuclear war He just wanted to make peace with Iran After he's smoking some weed He got too high He's like Obama you're trying to chill with

Love everybody last night He's like what why can't we all get along I think uh I think If I'm going to pick one drug That our president should be allowed to use I think I got to go Coke I got to go coke Make you more alert

You don't go to sleep You can come up with all sorts of great plans That's probably what Bill Clinton did before the Trans-Pacific Partnership. He's like, what if we just had China? Make all of our goods. Yeah, I mean, you just, listen, you get coked up. You have a million different ideas that you're never going to follow through on. But when you're present, you can actually make all of them happen.

I think mushrooms. If we want to allow it, one drug, I'm picking mushrooms. That's not a bad one. Just have them be happy all the time. Happy, just really vibing out, you know. me not non-violent and you get super creative on mushrooms too so that's probably what happened before the moon program got going bro you are you have associated each drug with a ex-policy and i'm dying right now i'm i'm loving it i'm just trying to think like because ever since like

you know drunk nixon cause nuclear war like what drug like you know the spiders how they make their webs yeah different drugs i'm just trying to do that with historical events math uh ooh uh meth's a bad one I think meth maybe that's how they start building a nuclear bomb yeah yeah

or like some sort of terrible tragedy tragedy like I'm gonna destroy the world meth probably would cause like meth would be an issue old hickory probably was doing meth and just made terrible

decisions we're probably going to get president soon, I mean, hopefully, if we can get a president that's like under the age of 60 ever, that are prescribed Adderall. Yeah. What about vaping presidents? Oh, I bet you Obama vaped. Yeah.

I bet you because he was trying to quit. And so I know for a fact that Obama, you used to have like the Nicorette gum. And so when you chew Nicorette, it comes in these little, you know, you break off the tinfoil quarter. It's not just like a dinty ice where you pop it out, but you have to tear off like the entire square and then you pop it out after that and i heard that he was like just leaving those all over the white house when he was there they would be in like every room my oh he smoked cigarettes he used to yeah big time yeah that's nasty though does he smoke weed too or no he did he did he probably got

back into weed that's got to be a real nice thing it's like from cigarettes to weed well it's got to be a nice thing if you if you're done being president then you can do all the shit that you made illegal. Yeah. Or maybe Obama's got like the key to the DEA lockers where they get the real good shit that they would confiscate. Obama wrote in his book that he continued to smoke sometimes eight, nine or ten cigarettes a day in the White House.

That rocks. It is, it does look cool. What kind of, that is, I agree. That is one of the biggest problems I've ever seen is. Smoking is one of the worst things in the world, I'm smoking cigarettes. But it looks cool as shit while they do it. Like that shit looks fire.

It does. So cool. It absolutely does. All right, you guys, anything else do you want to discuss real quick before we get into the Murdoch murders? No. Oh,

there is a big team like some movies so long. This is maybe the first, the most excited I've ever been to talk about something. I have one last, last thing. And the name is similar. Rupert Murdoch testified his testimony came out yesterday. The chairman of Fox News, or I guess the News Corp is what it's called News Corp. And so Fox News is getting sued.

And they're actually in a lot of trouble for the 2020 election because Dominion, the voting machines, voting machine company is suing them. It's not like it's, well, they're being sued by Dominion because they would have like, Sidney Powell on all the time, and they'd have Rudy Giuliani on, and they would put forth the idea that Dominion was controlled somehow by the Venezuelan government, and Venezuela used their machines to hack into America's election, switch a bunch of votes, and that's why Trump lost and why Biden won. So it's a fine theory. It's entertaining. I think that at some point, if your guy loses, you need to have all sorts of excuses lined up for why they lost. You saw it

with Hillary in 2016 when she lost Donald Trump. A lot of people just couldn't believe that Hillary lost. And so they came up with theories of their own on why that happened. And this time, Dominion actually has like a pretty good lawsuit because say what, like regardless of whether or not it's true, no one's going to be able to use Dominion voting machines anymore because their name has been dragged through the mud. And so what county or what, uh, what election officials,

are going to do business with the minion knowing that at the very least there will be people that will claim that your shit's rigged if they lose if they lose so they lost a shitload of money they were a pretty big business and um they're suing fox news because they're saying that they can prove that fox news's personalities like hannity Tucker carlson um who else am i i'm leaving a couple people out i think there are a few other people that are named uh laura Ingram, they're saying that they all knew that the story was bullshit and made up, but they continued to put it out there because of ratings and because their audience wanted to hear about that exact sort of thing. And Rupert Murdoch admitted yesterday that like they should not

have done, or the transcription came out that Rupert Murdoch knew that they should not have done what they ended up doing. I don't know if I conjugated those verbs correctly. Basically saying they were aware that it was not an accurate story and they should have done more to stop putting it out there which seems to be like that's a pretty big statement to make when you're when you're under a lawsuit for slander or liable because the bar is very high to prove that like you knew that something was false and you still did it anyways but their text messages back and forth between like Tucker and Laura Ingram saying like we got to stop having Sidney on she's crazy we got to stop having Rudy on she's crazy

and they're misleading our viewers, and then they continue to have them on. So there's actually like a, it's probably not going to happen, but there is a possibility that News Corp could get sued and lose so badly that they just cease to exist in their current form anymore. That would just be so the opposite of what everybody would think it was. Like to their constituents, it would just be like, see, they're trying to side into them once again. It's just, I don't even think that's a solution.

but I do hope they reap what they sow because they have been sued before of something like that and they claimed, I forget what the lawsuit was about, but in their, it was Hannity specifically and they had to admit that it is not like real journalism and it's not news, it's entertainment. And they had to admit that in order to say face in court. They've been sued a couple of times for those reasons. Yeah. That would be wild. I think it was Hannity and maybe Tucker Carlson that said, we're not, we're not journalists, we're not a news show.

It's just it's entertainment for people. And that's not against the law to like have an opinion show and to spout out, you know, whatever theories you think at the time. But it is against the law or it's against the law to do it knowingly spreading false information while saying something different behind the scenes and causing. damage to a company that can be proven in court. I think with Dominion, they can prove they lost a shitload of business because of that. So, like, it's one thing if Rachel Maddow gets on the news. And you remember that when Rachel said that she got like Trump's tax returns? And then she ended up doing like 30 minutes about like his yacht was parked next to the yacht of some like Russian oligarch for a couple weeks. That might be the worst broadcast of anything like of all time.

Because it took 45 minutes to even get. We have it coming up after this commercial. We have it. We're going to unveil it. And they did that for four breaks. Then they finally come back and show it. And she was like, so he paid a lot of taxes. And this is how much it was. Yeah. And then, but don't forget his boat bigty. His boat was near a bad guy's boat for like a week. Yeah. It was. I, I'm ashamed to have watched it. Yeah. But so there's a reason why you can you can do that. But if unless somebody can prove that they've been materially harmed by it, which is also very tough to do, then you can't really face. any consequences in the lawsuit, but it sounds like, I don't know, I'm not a lawyer. I should just say that, you know, I'm obviously not a lawyer, but it seems like they could be in for a big payday. Dominion could be in for a big payday at this point. So that's, that's talking Murdox and now talking Murdoz. Woohoo. The Murdole murders. The Murtaugh murders. So the Murdof family first came to my attention about a year ago, I'd say a year and a half ago when um when the uh the guy alec murdoch got shot he was shot on the side

of the road changing a tire and um it it made the national news because it was tied into a whole bunch of other stuff that this family has done behind the scenes and it is really like a soap opera it's an american southern soap opera uh from the low country of south carolina great food down the low country i must say i mean you couldn't write this script like it would read as like a yellowstone type they should make once it's all said and done they should make a drama series oh they're making they're making movies right now about it yeah who should play the murdof family oh jonah hill jonah hill uh what's his name the main dude oh paul pa pa pa paul's got to be shitty kid.

Jonah Hill's a little old for Paul Murdo. No, you're talking about Alec, the guy who's on trial right now. The dad. No, you think young. Oh,

yeah, I was thinking young Jonah Hill. It's been a while since I've seen him. Super bad. No, he's older now. Damn. I think,

that's what I was out. When I first saw Paul, I was like, I was like a little Jonah Hill. You remember that old show in Nickelodeon? The Adventures of Pete and Pete. Both those guys could get a gig. I don't know which one would play which.

But they're definitely making, they're making movies. There'll be, there'll be like way too much Murdoch content within a year and a half. We're going to be sick of this family because they're going to do like seven different mini-series. There's going to be many documentaries that is going to be at least, at least two movies that come out about. David Caruso should probably get involved in it somehow. Seth Green could be in it. Danny Bonaducci. He should be in it.

That guy Damien from Billions, he played Bobby Axelrod. Oh, yeah. He's going to be involved. You line up anybody with red hair in Hollywood, and you have them audition, and I'm sure that they'll end up getting apart. But, Billy, it does seem like a made-for-Hollywood type script. Yeah. So it's a family that goes back generations and generations in South Carolina. Hampton County.

they actually they run is it the 14th district 14th district 14th district 14th district of south Carolina going back to like the 1900s they've been the solicitors which is that's what they that's the term that they use in south Carolina for like the district attorney so the patriarch of the family was a solicitor for that district which means that he gets to choose who to prosecute with crimes and basically runs law enforcement basically i mean the establishment of this lawyer family starting all the way back in 1910 they had three solicitors in a row in the first person to of that family not to get solicitorship was alec murdaw so in that part that's where the sort of fucking up starts i have an amazing timeline timeline i found on the post and courier um which sort of

outlines all the series of events. Okay. I picked the important ones. But yeah, 1910 Randolph Murdoch found a law firm. He graduated from South Carolina, University of South Carolina law school, and successively every one of his male heirs went to South Carolina law school. Also, great hats.

Great hats. If you go to USC, just walking around wearing, you remember those hats that have like the two lines on the front? you just say Cox the game that's who makes those hats is that it we should bring that style back we had I think I have one we had one at Miami Ohio that was

it said mofo because it was M of O that was a that was a good one I feel like a lot of universities made most of their money just on those hats South Carolina definitely made a shitload of money on the Cox hats probably still do

there was a university in New Hampshire called the Woodpeckers and it just said peckers on the hat. I had one of those. I thought it was the height of comedy when I was like 14 years old. I wore it everywhere.

I think Furman has shirts that just say FU. I like that. Also in South Carolina. I like that. There's USC, the ones that just say Trojans on them. That's kind of funny. Oh, there's a St. Francis University.

I'm pretty sure that sells shut the fuck up. That's STFU. I think it's St. Francis. I'm not entirely sure. those hats were awesome the cox hats great hats anyways back to your story bill so randolph murdaugh is the first of the law dynasty but he himself came from money from a phosphate mining family which stretches back even more if you're a family that's in charge of a mine your job is just basically like make money and kill people and figure out how to not pay the people that you

kill yeah right like if you're if you're in the mineral rights business I mean, it's pretty wild. And then he himself wasn't a saint by any means, Randolph Mardaw. Apparently, in the Varnville history book, Railroads and Sawmills, he basically witnessed a man fall off the train tracks and get his, get mangled between two tracks. And then took the guy, he might have even pushed him, they're saying. And then basically promised him to get him a huge check from the railroad company because he hated. that the railroad was going through his land.

So they might have like tried an insurance scheme that went really wrong to sue the railroad companies and get the track away from the residential areas. So like all this stuff like that is that's better call assault type stuff. Yeah. Like back in the 1900s. Yeah. So Randolph Murdoch, so this is the first Randolph Murdoch was elected solicitor after starting his law firm in

1910 and then in 1920 he becomes the solicitor. Now this is a big deal because this is. in a position taken lightly it turns out there's a bunch of families like the murdaws across these districts that have as much powers they do and probably there are similar stories of cover-ups that we have no idea about do you think that that families growing up in the mid-20th century they're they're like okay we're of murdaw county you think they're rude for the murdaws like they were like a local sports team or a mascot it's like we're murdaw people well i think anytime there's a problem they'd go to the murdaws it's basically

from what I've been reading it's like southern organized crime yeah like we talk about organized crime through power like the mafia now you could say has integrated into state politics and low level politics like this is how like you know corruption and everything was done in the south like you don't hear about much like every like group of people has an organized crime like syndicate kind of like the yakuza like there's always something like the irish mobs the ginger mafia yeah these guys are basically like good old boy like group incorporated yeah i i mean to a certain extent i i have to imagine that being a family of all gingers it's hard for them to seize power in south carolina right they're strikingly ginger also they are they're they're the

bad gingers they're they're real real redheads capital r redhead they do look uh they all at strikingly ginger as they are they are equally as strikingly southern though like you look at them and you're like that dude is from south carolina yeah i think they were they were born in a uh like a uh a seer sucker yeah put into a seersucker swaddle peter millar southern marsh yeah and this has nothing to do with them being uh redheads but you look at the pictures of like everybody in this family as their kids and you're just like that piece of shit you're just like i know that I know that guy is just a mean asshole. I have a feeling that I was looking around about the phosphate minor owner,

who's the original lawyer's father and all that. I have a feeling that it was the South. I don't think their labor was getting wages per se. Probably not. Like allegedly. Like the whole history just stops at 1910 and looking back and they say that their family was there for generations and generations. I think there's a lot that's been scrubbed out and probably crazier stories than this

about cover-ups and just saying southern wealthy family owns a industry that needs a lot of labor probably they did how it was back then like knock on wood billy yeah allegedly but who knows um so he gets elected to solicitorship of 14 judicial court this covers low country counties allendale buford colton hampton jasper uh that is important later in the story so the o g randolph murdock dies in 1940. He dies very mysteriously. So he may have faked his own death or committed suicide, depending on who you talk to. He dies after his car is struck by a Charleston and Western Carolina Rail Company freight train near Varnville. He had been returning from visiting a friend in the country when at 1230 a.m. the crash occurred. He had been running unopposed for a sixth term of solicitor

at the time. So from what I picked up, the conductor of the train said that he couldn't see it was dark out but as soon as he saw uh randolph murdaw rudolph was outside of the car waved at him got back in the car and then it was he was the car was hit and then the body was in a million pieces and they couldn't uh identify it yeah so not an accident it doesn't sound like not an accident it's got to be tough to get hit by a train by accident or you could put someone else's body and just watch it get exploded by a train like have you ever seen cattle after they get hit by the cowcatcher i have not but i can imagine so you know there wasn't dna testing back there right and there wasn't pretty good autopsy or dental records

probably so there there's rumors allegedly that he may have faked his own death so that starts there the whole faking death scenario yeah starts there i i always wonder about faking your own death because it has to happen right people have to get away with it yeah we hear about the people they get caught it's like bank robbers but i'm sure that some people have faked their own death and got away with it and will never be the wiser so that actually never thought about that that's pretty interesting yeah i mean it's it's it's got to be tough to do now like really tough really the old you got to move countries yeah if you if you're trying to fake your own death i think the best way go out on your boat out into the ocean and then

just sink your boat somehow and figure out a way to get to shore somewhere else have your papers all in order ready to go oh you know who they just found out faked his death who uh carol baskin's husband who died in tiger king wait what they failed he's alive yes shut the fuck up yeah he's alive that did do me you thought that was a rumor I don't think that's been confirmed is that been confirmed mad dog saw too I did you guys probably saw it on the same place similar sources. I saw it on Twitter. I could be wrong.

I don't think that was confirmed to be true. Billy, you're going to have to back this up. I know. Carol Baskin husband found. But quick, the greatest presidential ad dead husband, family of Carol Baskin's dead husband break silence.

It says dead husband was found alive, but no one noticed. Earlier this week, Baskin resurfaced footage from November 22nd interview with Britons, this morning talk went showing the animals right activist saying that lewis had been found alive so she said that he was found alive at this stage the case concerning his disappearance remains unsolved that's from january 30th she slipped up and said that he'd been found the alive but she probably wants to act like he's dead because like she's probably like fuck that guy

he ran off so not confirmed not confirmed but the rumors out there that she's saying but if she had killed him, she's probably letting that rumor float so people stop saying. A hundred percent. Because that's the first thing I thought was like, well, America owes that simp an apology for all. Well, I guess we don't know him an apology. We owe her an apology

because we thought that she killed her sim. His children said, quote, it's simply not true that he was found alive. Oh, okay. What a roller coaster that was. I thought that was a bomb sale. I'm sorry. Tiger King. Tiger King. Was Tiger King

the first pandemic bonding that everybody had. I think I was like the big first bonding during a pandemic. Yeah, because it just happened to come out like that first week. Yeah. But did you all like that show? Like if you watched it at any other time, would you have enjoyed it? I think it was really bad. I think I would have been like this is a medium interesting documentary that came out. I was fascinated by it. Yeah, but we didn't have anything else. And Aaron, so when we interviewed Scott from HQ trivia, we were talking about the, uh, the timing. of when they were popular and how massive HQ would have been

if it had come out, like during the pandemic when we had nothing else. Like we would have looked forward so hard to those 15 minutes of trivia every single day. And he said that they actually went out of business two weeks before the lockdown started, which is such bad timing. That's pretty bad.

All right, so this guy is still dead. You know what I thought about the other day, actually? what if Prince was still alive I could see Prince like he faked his death I could see if anybody did it I could see Prince faking his own death I would be mad at that actually

okay would you be mad if he was like hey I'm Prince I'm still alive but I've spent the last seven years just creating music nonstop here's 20 albums Nope then I'm happy as shit yeah yeah exactly That would be lit

That's absolutely what I was I was thinking I was like, Prince was a weird guy. There were certain aspects of being a celebrity that he did not like. He enjoyed making music. He was dedicated to that. But what if he just laid low the last 20 years and just came out with bangers? If ever, if ever anybody was going to do this and come out and do it, it would a thousand percent be Kanye. This is the Kanye move if I've ever seen one dog.

Yeah. Yeah, maybe Kanye might be in. MK Ultra too. Did you guys see the Carlos Boozer print story? So Carlos Boozer brought like an $8 million house in California when he was playing, I think when he was on the Utah Jazz. And his agent called him and was like, someone's willing to pay a million dollars to stay in your house because he didn't stay in it. And he's like, all right, fine. And one day he goes back to the house and all the stuff that he originally had there was gone and he typed in the gay code or whatever. And it was Prince staying at his house and he changed everything and he was really pissed and he called Prince

and he's like what's like the deal with this like what's going on he's like rest assured like when you come back everything will be back so he put all of Carlos Boozer stuff in storage and made the house like the way he wanted to and Prince sent him $500,000 to ease his mind about it that's awesome yeah that's so why is that crazy that's fuck you money for real yeah that is crazy the pin code was 1999. Yeah, good on, Billy. Nails it. Nailed it.

Just humoring me, though. Like, what if Prince is still alive? Just think about everybody out there. What if Michael Jackson still alive? And he's innocent. He's definitely innocent. But if he's a lie, I'll be Mike Jack, bro. Big fan.

You're out there. Come back to us, man. Come on macados. I saw the autopsy report. That was also part of the research. The autopsy report revealed a lot, so he's probably dead. If Michael Jackson was still alive and came back, that would be, or got discovered that he was alive, that would be a pretty significant tally in the he's guilty category. Would you not say? No.

All right. Why would you say that? Well, because he's run away from something. What do you run away from? Right. Tide of being famous, man. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. He might be the most famous human of all time, of all time. Jesus.

Boom. He was more allegedly, you know, I mean. No, Jesus existed. He's top three. There may have been a guy. It's spotty is what I'm saying. Spotty. I can say with high con, I think Jesus existed.

Spotty. Big T. You just got back from taking a piss. Question. Who do you think is the most famous person to ever live? For sure, Jesus. Yeah. Jesus. Yeah, well. I mean, who would be close? He's in Michael Jackson. Oh, Muhammad.

Interesting. I think Muhammad might win. Think of how many people who existed before 1970 who couldn't have known who Michael Jackson was. So it's not close. The, the content is not, um, the contention is not if collectively Jesus would absolutely wash Michael Jackson. The contention is did Jesus actually exist? That is kind of still on the fence. I'm with you. I'll give it to you maybe, but it's still, it's not 100%. Right. So Michael Jackson was absolutely here. I think Jesus clears. I think it's Jesus. Muhammad might be up there though because there are a lot of Muslim people. I don't know if they pass Christianity yet because South America. America is still huge, but, like, the Muslim world is, like, exploding at a large rate.

Like, 33% or something like that, right? Yeah, Indonesia. The largest Muslim country in the world is Indonesia, and that's just, like, something that you just don't have in your brain until, like, to realize the magnitude. Yeah. Like, in Indonesia is huge. Yep. All right. So.

So Buster. Yep. The first Buster. The first Buster wins his father's seat. It was Buster's real name? Richard. 24% This was

20% of the world is Muslim Huh So this is Randolph Randolph Buster Murdof How do you get the nickname Buster? He's a Buster

Got to be a Buster So Buster beats his father He gets his father's old seat And the first thing he does Is file a wrongful death suit Wait wait wait Wait back up for one second

Do you say that he beat his dad He won his dead father's old seat Because his dad got hit by a train Yes And this is in 1940 he beat his opponent by more than 6,000 votes. Okay. So he then filed a wrongful death suit against the rail company involved in his father's crash,

claiming negligence and seeking $100,000. So this was the same move that the OG Murdaw did by suing the rail company. It would be the first of several suits the firm would file against railroads over its history. So that's Buster. now so I I'm doing a little bit of research on Buster the nickname and a lot of people are saying that there's a patient zero for Buster and that was Buster Keaton the movie star because he was a silent movie star probably one of the most famous people in the world when he was alive and then if you if there was like a kid that you had that was funny that was like falling

down or smashing stuff you would give that person the nickname Buster fun fact So Buster was then indicted in 1956. So Buster, Mirdaw is indicted by federal grand jury as part of an alleged whiskey conspiracy involving nearly a dozen people. He's accused of conspiring with a bootleggard to move an illegal still from Hampton to Colton County to avoid detection by law enforcement officers. He soon resigns from office while awaiting trial on the charge. So he was doing some better call stall stuff, just with way more power. moving moonshine around yeah you got to be really committed to the moonshine game if you're still run and shine you know post prohibition yeah huh so he was then acquitted though a federal judge

labels him grossly unethical buster murdaw is acquitted in connection with the whiskey conspiracy while 17 others including former sheriff j haskell thomas are convicted so i always have had the utmost confidence in the jury system of our state and i have never had any fear as the outcome of the indictment presented against me buster said announcing his plans to return to his old office if reelected he is then reelected in nineteen fifty six so he uh he's later rebuked by the supreme court so he did some crazy stuff and they've and they've written this down about like the stuff he used to do in court so he got several high profile cases including several that carried the death penalty He's rebuked repeatedly by the South Carolina Supreme Court for the over-the-top arguments he employs.

In one rape case, for example, he warns jurors that if they acquit the defendant, he will drop the charges against other accused rapists. That doesn't sound legal. He's like, well, if you're going to let this one free, I'm going to let all of them free. Like, that was his argument. Yeah, sounds like this guy was corrupt as fuck. Now, I read that he got, I think. think he sent 14 people to death row yeah that's a lot of people for i mean south carolina is not like it's not the sticks it's not like there's tons of people living there either though per capita

so like 14 people in this conglomerate of what four counties that he represents that's a lot of people to send to death row yeah in uh in another case from 1979 he laid on the floor and had a witness wrap a garden hose around his neck to demonstrate how a victim was killed Hilt. He then continued his questioning with the hose still around his neck. So he was kinky. Yeah, this guy likes playing God. We're just extra. He's just extra.

Letting people live and die. So Buster Murdaugh retires in 1986. Buster Murdoe announces he retire on December 31st from the post he's held for 48 years. He said he retired because he's tired. I'm tired, he says.

Anyone that's been in office for this long as I have has paid homage to their society. So then this is where Randolph Murdoch the third. Let me go. What I say? Homage. Homage. Homage. Homage. Homage. That's that's debatable. It's not. Homage. Or I have heard homage too, but I think homage. It's not homage. You said that's what you said. No, you said homage. Oh, homage. So this is where, so this is now where his grandfather comes in, Randolph Murdog the third. which if you remember from the documentary Murdog

Let's go Yeah Murdog Whatever What's a Murdog That'd be a strong nickname Yeah It would We got the Murdog in the house

Yeah this is the guy That Paul The kid Who fucked everything up And ran the boat off This was the guy Who he would call All the time

So this is Third Generation lawyer Yep The grandfather Of the son So Randolph the 3rd had been the first four-letter athlete in the history of Wade Hampton High School when he received the mark in 1957, but he had no secret of where his future lay. I'd like to follow my father's footsteps and work towards a law degree. So he went to USC law school. So this guy then was elected is the 14th Circuit solicitor. So there's three solicitors in a row. 1987 he's elected. First Buster dies in 88.

This is then in 1994 when Alex Murdoch graduates law school. So this is Alec Murdoch who's in prison currently. He graduates law school in 94. Do you think that when these families are deciding, like who's going to date my son, who's going to marry my son, they take into account like the other family, like the girls' family and be like, we want you to marry into a good family, like it's old school Europe and you're trying to consolidate power? yeah probably other well think about all these families that live in these different districts who have

just as much power they definitely all meet at the university of south carolina law school and end up marrying each other yeah that's probably how it happens there should be a dating app just for people that are from good families yeah strong families hold all that power that'll go over so well so this is when randolph murdog the third steps down is a solicitor fulfilling a he made the previous year to return to practice at the family law firm. He departures ends the family's nearly 87 year reign over the solicitor's office. Officials say the run is the longest by one family in U.S. history. Governor Mark Sanford selects assistant solicitor Duffy Stone to take over as a chief prosecutor. So this is huge because Alec Murdaugh never gets the

solicitorship. Yeah. And he's the first one in a, you know, long, line. Was there a no lawyers? Did he have any brothers that were named Randolph? He had older brothers. I think one was called Randolph. Yeah. And that's the guy.

That's the guy that's the real disappointment. The one that's named Randolph that doesn't end up taking that over because you essentially crown your baby at birth. Like you're going to run these four counties when you get older if you name him Randolph. I think basically, I think Alec was the only one to make lawyer. Okay. maybe don't quote me on that so then this is when a big jump from 2006 to 2015 stephen smith is found dead stephen smith 19 is found dead on the side of the road in the

middle of sandy run road near joe milly road in the hampton authorities initially believed he had been shot in the head but an autopsy determines he died from blunt force trauma likely from a hit and run collision. Highway Patrol investigators disagree with that conclusion, noting the absence of skid marks, vehicle debris, and other factors. Investigators chase numerous tips in the investigation, including some involving the members of the Murdof family. And he had his shoes on at the time, and they were loose-fitting shoes. So they should have flown off. And they were saying that when you get hit by a car going at a rate of speed that could kill you, which could be as low as like 25, 30 miles an hour, they could still very easily kill you. If you're wearing loose-fitting shoes, those typically fly off.

So Stephen Smith was allegedly may have having some sort of relationship with Buster Murdaugh, the first son of Alec Murdoch. That was what a lot of the rumor and gossip was. Turns out he helped tutor Buster Murdaugh. So this is the first of many murders that Murdaugh's, the modern day Murdaugh's, have been accused to be involved in. So the speculation there is he was having a homosexual relationship with one of Alec Murdaugh's kids and then that the kid was either going to tell

somebody or they found out something happened and the speculation is that you killed them and left them on the side of the road and there's speculation that Paul Murdoch was also in the car for the suspected killing yeah and and all the speculation is like just the rumor mill just around town a lot of people have talked to the press about it and ever since it happened have always said like we heard that this guy was involved i don't think that there's any like forensic evidence that definitively links him to or else i think that would be something to look into but it probably was wiped away yeah by out so the murdof family had connections everywhere police police chiefs other lawyers prosecutors and all you know the highway patrols

everywhere so if they were showing up to a scene of a crime they want to ensure that you know they could call the right people to make the right things go away um that's probably why there was a lot of debate on whether stephen smith may have been shot in the head was he hit by a car or was he beaten with a baseball bat um the second death february 26 2018 was the death of gloria satirfield Gloria Satterfield was considered a second mother to the Murdoch kids, especially Paul, the youngest one.

She was a housekeeper nanny and 57 years old. They definitely called her Miss Gloria, right? Yeah. Yeah. So apparently, allegedly, she had a trip and fall accident at the family's home. They claimed that the dogs tripped her over. The

coroner in EMS have no record of the accident or her passing. When the coroner eventually finds a death certificate, it states that Satterfield had died of natural causes. Yeah. And a slip and fall is not a natural cause as far as I know, right? Nope, it isn't. If you're writing it up, you write it up as an accident. And that would require an autopsy. And head trauma. Hmm. Which Gloria Satterfield did not have an autopsy. Also, she was alive when she arrived at the hospital. Yep. She didn't die on contact. And then was visited subsequently by Alec Murdaugh while she was in the

hospital. Okay. I almost said something that would have made somebody very angry at me, so I didn't say it. For the record. If you had to say it. No, I'm not going to say it. Somebody on the show? Who would it have made mad? I don't want to say who it made mad. Now you've got to say it. Now you have to say it. You think they Big T, you could play Alec Murdole in this movie.

Because listen, hear me out. Hear me out. I mean, you're not even, you're not even making sense. You're not, you're not even making sense. You're not, you're not ginger, but you could be Hollywood ginger. So it's like, you've got the hint. He's, of redhead. He's whitewashed ginger.

Well, he's like six three, six four. He's a big guy. He's a big guy. That's what I'm getting at. 60 years old. Yeah, I mean, we can do prosthetics, that sort of thing. We can make you look old. No, you're a clown, dude.

I'm just saying. I'd see this is why I don't want to say it He doesn't he doesn't even There's no remote resemblance In the Hollywood adaptation I don't think you I don't think you I wouldn't see the two of you next to each other And be like damn you're a ringer for that guy

But I'm saying you you have enough of the traits Whereas a handsome actor that you are You would be able to play the part Well you have enough of the traits of a dumb ass to play one You're in that Big T that's my life Yes You have some of Andy Griffith

Description that they give Alec Murdo Andy Griffith was a handsome man That's how they described him I don't think looking like him It's necessarily Actually when not young him Not when this guy

Alec Murdox gets on the pills Because you can tell he's on the pills Yeah He looks constipated as fuck all the time With Andy Griffith You guys watch the Andy Griffith show Yep TV land Maybe Air FD

That and Mash Yeah. Aaron, you ever watch Andy Griffith? Uh, I know the whistle. Yeah, it's a great... That's good, bro. Yeah. There we go.

Walking down the dirt road with their fishing gear. Fishing poles, yeah. Gun smoke, too. Yeah, man, Andy Griffith's show was great. That was a good time. They had a little TV run. They had that. They had

Who was the John with Ricky? What the fuck was that? I love Lucy. I love Lucy. They had, what's the John with the dolphin? Flipper. Yep, Flipper. They had the Munsters.

You remember Mr. Ed? Mr. Ed? Yeah, Mr. Ed. Nice little run in that little era. It was a height, man. Junior's been crazy. The Monsters was only on air for nine months. Really?

Or was that from Adam's family? I thought the monsters had a little run. I used to watch late night. We used to watch the monsters all the time, man. Avery, Avery's cracking up. You have to share with the class. Why?

I just saw, I just saw a tweet. It was like Patrick Ewing. And he was like, enjoyed visiting Mrs. Kay's third grade class. So this picture is so absurd, like how tall he is compared to the kids. I'll send it in the camera.

He's a big man. Send it to the group. He's definitely seven foot. Oh, I can't tell. It's not loading. I wonder why he visited us like random as shit Patrick Ewing visiting a third grade class. Like a random third grade class.

That's part of why it's so funny. He had to be hitting a teacher or something. You can't fire a man when he's talking to a group of elementary schoolers. Somebody comes in whispers into his ear. Sir, sir, you've been fired. And he puts down my pet goat. I can't believe he still has a job.

Yeah, I mean He won't in like a week He definitely won't in like week Now Jay Williams said that Since many people have asked him People have been asking He would he would accept the job of Georgetown University head coach

Thank you Jay Williams for that Because people had been inquiring If he wanted it Everybody Aaron do you remember when When IMA Udoca got the job Coaching the Boston Celtics

And Jay Williams tweeted about it I do not What happened? He said, congratulations to EMA. Like, what a great guy. And also more... The first black coach. Yeah, and more importantly,

the first black coach in the history of the Boston Celtics were breaking barriers. Just conveniently forgetting the fact, well, Doc Rivers just won a championship with him. Also, Bill Russell coach for the Celtics. I think there may have been another African-American head coach that they've had over the years as well.

They've just had several, like, prolific, very, very, very famous. head coaches so when j williams tweeted that out my initial reaction was uh congratulations j williams the first african american head coach at georgetown university they should did you you tweeted it no i think i might have said it on on part of my take but it don't get me wrong it was not an original take i think like half the internet had that had that same thought cross their heads but yeah patrick ewing probably probably definitely going to get fired what if georchon wins a big East tournament though. I would

I would not count on that happening. They did win one Big East game this year. They beat did they beat Butler? They might have. It had been like a year and a half since they'd won a game. Horrible. Very bad. Tough to see. Sorry, that was a very long side conversation there.

They beat DePaul and Butler. Oh, good for them. Yeah, too. Moving on up. So this real quick, real quick, I want to know because I haven't watched a college basketball game this year. How's North Carolina doing? Because that was always my team growing up. Not good.

They're going to get in the tournament by the skin of their teeth. But kind of a disappointment from where they were at last year. They were preseason number one and I think they were the quickest preseason number one to ever fall out of the top 25. If I was to ever have like a bucketless thing to do it or to go to go to North Carolina Tar Hill game. Go to the Dean Dome? Never, never been, but I always wanted to go.

Yeah. I would actually like to go. I remember one time I was I was growing up and I was visiting my grandparents in North Carolina and I was, they were really into ACC basketball and UNC. They like both UNC and Duke, which is really, really strange. I never really, when I started talking my friends about that, about how my family likes both teams, they were like, what the hell is wrong with you and your family? And I thought it was totally normal. And now I see that it was it was weird as shit that they, They liked those teams and NC State and Wake Forest. They liked all of North Carolina. But I remember I was visiting my grandparents and Duke was playing at UNC that night. And I was like, can we, we should go to the game. And they're like, okay, call up the ticket office and see if they have any tickets left. And they were like, we haven't had tickets for that game in two years. Oh, my God.

It would be awesome to go to a game in Chapel Hill, though. I hear it's a great college town. Yeah, I wouldn't know. I took a visit there for one of my colleges coming out. Yeah, because the colors. Yeah, I loved them. And that was, I liked UNC basketball so much that I took a visit for my recruiting visit for football. Was that?

I knew I wasn't going to go there. Was that Butch Davis? I believe so, maybe. It was years ago, bro, 2003 or four. Did you tell you like, hey, great part about coming to school here. You don't have to go to class. The paper class. I had a homie who went there. I wasn't the, TJ Yates.

T.J. Yates went there. We talked about it. Because all that shit came out while we was in the league. And he was like, yeah, we had, we had those classes. Their head coach was John Bunting. John Bunting. Yes. Which Davis wasn't until 2007. That's right. John Bunting. Damn, I remember that. All right, Billy. Fire away, dog. Like a little dog with her.

No, that just takes us a modern day situation. A lot of the stuff that was left out of the documentary that like this was happening. I guess they couldn't like prove it because a lot of it was hearsay. And some of these stories were DM to me

from residents of the 14th district of rumors they've heard about like the family's whole history. I think one of the sketchiest things was that there was a freaking airplane landing strip on the Murdaugh property. Yeah. Like, that's, going back to Carol Baskins, like, were they, like, moving cocaine? We're, like, drug dealers landing.

There's no real good reason to have a private landing strip. Yeah. You can go to a private airport, get on a private plane. But, like, to have a landing strip on your property, I can't think of why you would need that. Well, in the documentary they said it was just used for drugs and strippers. Oh, two good reasons. They're flying in strippers? I think.

In drugs? I feel like strippers might be the wrong that'd be a waste of money to fly in strippers Hey I know these girls I found check this out I found some girls And they're

They're gonna take their clothes off The thing is they live in They live in Houston So So I got to play and go to pick them up Well if your drug guy can be like Hey I can bring some strippers with me Yeah I'm two for one

Feet two birds With birds with one scone, as you're supposed to say now. Do you know that? If you have a private. Wait, what? You're not allowed to say kill two birds with one stone. Now you say feed two birds with one scone. Who says that we can't?

University professors. Okay. Oh, we can't kill birds. Feed two birds with one scone. Mm-hmm. I like that. This is the America you're cultivating. I like that.

So you're aware. I mean, who doesn't love scones? Scones, very underrated food, by the way. If they're done right. Yeah, scones are delicious. There's a scone place in Seattle. Let me put you on the scone place. It's downtown.

Be sure to check that out. Yeah, dive into it. Next time I'm across the country. Look at Mr. Moneybags over here going to the Pacific time zone. Yeah, you take a day trip. Go get your scones. It's a breakfast trip, okay? Is it just a biscuit?

Like a biscuit? It's like a really moist, delicious biscuit. Yeah. Very buttery. you can you get toppings spread on them and they turn it into like a whole what's better what's better a scone from your fancy scone place or a beauberry biscuit that's that's a good question they're they're good in different ways it's like asking me to choose between kids that's easy i mean people have favorite kids for sure they won't tell you but everybody

has a favorite kid brer i i like the scones because i don't get the scones as much as i get the beauberry biscuit. That's fair. It's like a special treat, but they're, yeah, a good breakfast scone. You know what? I blew it. It's not a scone place. Fuck scones.

I'm out on scones. Scones are always dry. It's a crumpet place. My bad. Crumpets. Google crumpet. They sound, they're the most bougie sounding food in the world. Yep.

But they're not that much different than the best breakfast biscuit you've ever had in your life. Fuck scones. For the record, fuck scones. They're too dry. Better than, uh, your favorite place monel's i did put some people onto monels last week okay so biscuits are unbelievable trumpets look like like uh soft english muffins yeah so so soft so buttery so good anyways

i've never had a crumpet or a scone am i am i fucking up you're not fucking up with the scones scones are trash scones are bottom tier breakfast carbohydrate but how did you just how did you just pivot on scones like that. You just was referring us to a whole fucking one in Seattle and now you out on scones. How did this happen? Because I was mistaken. It's a crumpet place. I just remembered it was a crumpet place in Seattle, not a

scone place. I got crumpets and scones confused. This place is called the crumpet shop in Seattle. Pike Place Market. It's in the name, dude. That's embarrassing. Well, they serve crumpets. What about macaroos? No, I'm saying the name of the place is the crumpet shop and you thought they sold scones.

I'm sorry. I mixed up. crumpets and scones they're both yeah it's a pretty big fuck up though it is my favorite stone place the crumpet shop that's how you had the voting liberal it's pretty bad it's pretty bad wait explain that billy you get too many mixups too much information gets mixed up and then you just vote in liberal yeah tomato sure if you had a tomato there somebody just throw it right in his fucking face that was bad actually i i'll admit like it really really enjoying crumpets is probably the most liberal thing that i do that that be up there that i did I did do the Hamilton Peloton class one time.

Oh, that's fine. That's pretty liberal. Love Hamilton. Yeah, but would you ever do a Peloton bike class featuring the soundtrack to the musical Hamilton? I'm not rich enough to buy a $8,000 bike that doesn't move, but I do, I love, I enjoy Hamilton. All right. So update the record, Hamilton Peloton Class 1, Crumpet Shop. two. We'll keep a running track on the most liberal things that I enjoy.

So that sets up the infamous boat crash. Yeah. The what now? Infamous. Yeah. Yeah. The infamous boat crash. Yeah. You say, oh, he said in famous. Yeah. So what, what happened during the infamous boat crash? on the way to a cland oyster fry up on the way home right but it's a setup he took the so paul the second son paul murdaw got all of his friends went to buy alcohol at a convenience store using his older brother's ID bought some white claws bush light and natty light and natty light and then i think there's also a bud light lime in there and hopped in the boat and with his buddies because he knew for some reason that there was cops out on the roads making drunk driving traffic stops yeah they all go to the clam bake on the way back not a good idea to ever give an 18 year old a boat while he's

drunk yeah just in general like an 18 year old should not have a boat also how do you not if you're his friends and you have an 130 pound like raging drunk kid do not tell him to fuck off no do you remember in the documentary they were like we told him not to drive we told him we didn't want to get in the boat with him

and he was like extremely loud and aggressive towards us and we were like okay I think that part kids they didn't think that's gonna be like 18 18 is old enough to be like fam don't drive what are you doing you fainted Like, I've had that happen plenty of time.

Like, that's the one part where I was like, I didn't really feel bad for buddy that lost his girlfriend was like, he almost made it seem like he made him get in the boat. Like, nobody made you get in the boat. Like, and when you see it, which is airy, the security cam footage of them walking on the dock. Yeah. Like, he's sloppy. He's, like, super sloppy.

And, like, they still, and they laugh it and joking and then walking to the boat. So nobody was like, I don't know. I've had, I've had friends. like I wrestled keys from before like give me the keys bro like what do you do it like I've had that happen before but I don't know it's sad that she had a goal but that shit they made that decision it's a bad one also did you like something that was really weird did you see that thing they talked about where his hands started tensing up when he was hammered yeah that was that's got to be like some sort of like no I missed that what I would say like every time he'd start

drinking uh Paul Murdoch would like start seizing up and like hands it'd get super he'd start making hand like I've seen people do that before that's something that needs to be studied yeah they called him Timmy yeah they called him Timmy that was his drunk alter ego yeah does that come from South Park I've heard

people say that I don't know if that's true but I have heard I've heard that I forgot about that dude because he starts seizing up and he looks like anyway turns out Paul was a infamous drunk and like drank a lot and apparently like his family brought him up that way there was alcohol all the time and definitely probably

a generational thing of they said that they used to they used to buy him handles of booze when he was like 16 which again that's another just bad mistake to make with a teenager don't give him a boat and don't give him hard liquor also he had a bunch of hog hunting dogs tons of four wheelers tons of guns like that facility was stocked yeah i mean all the cool shit he had an awesome life if you're like over 25 and you can handle all that stuff. It's like most people's dreams to get like sick ass property, nice boat, unlimited booze, hog hunting dogs. So you can hunt hogs on your property. He was definitely the type of guy where a lot of people were friends with him and put up with his stuff because he just had awesome shit. Yeah. Yeah. And his dad could get you

out of everything. Yeah. Or his grandfather could. Yeah. That was so weird. Like you call his grandfather like why when he called well his grandfather was more powerful than his father yeah i guess and even paul knew that that had to weigh on alec yeah the the crazy part that i thought about was like you know the conversation that needs to be had for you to feel comfortable enough to call your grandpa when you when you when you wreck a boat or you know what i'm saying to get them out a day they'd be like hey if you ever get in any trouble i need you know that we had you know that conversation is a wild conversation to have with a child. Yeah.

You're a grandkid. Well, yeah. It was probably a conversation that was passed down. Grandfather to grandson, you know, what's it called? Was the position sent solicitor? Solicitor to solicitor. Like three generations solicitors, they probably told each other like all that.

Like the amount of basically being above the law probably rotted their brains and their idea of right and wrong. Because when you have it. get out of jail free card I guess it just rots your whole you definitely take way more chances yeah um but yeah unfortunately so before the before the clam bake or the clam fry whatever they're calling it uh they were they were just doing they were just beer bonging beers to get ready for it six natty lights went down the beer bong yeah that's a lot of that's a lot of pregame natties to take down in a beer ball for a hundred thirty eight pound kid Mm-hmm.

Nettie lights are tracked. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, I don't know. Letting, I mean, I guess they wanted to go. There was, you know, I'm not going to judge. Like, I made stupid decision. No, judge away.

The kid, the murder thing we're talking about. Yeah. Judge that shit. Like, if this guy was that out of control and you, like, took, like, even if his dad was super powerful and he was like, I don't like this kid, like, whatever, like, you're, the father would appreciate taking away his keys. Yeah. Or does you think the Murdaws are like, like, encouraged drunk driving?

They certainly don't discourage it. Yeah. I mean, the story of him flipping his truck and then like a bunch of them like getting mad at the girlfriend of Paul for calling 911 is ridiculous. Yeah, you don't, you know, they have their own private 911. Yeah. It's grandpa. Yeah. So they're leaving the party.

They're shit-faced. They stop at a bar on the way back. mild move yeah nobody else want to stop at the bar but paul and Connor oh Connor did Connor did too Connor went into the bar too Connor is also for people who didn't watch the documentary Paul's best friend what kind of bars are these where they're just taking like 18 year old kids in that are I think he his blood alcohol was at like a point to yeah I guess he was a murder yeah it's like there are no rules yeah hmm so they get into

the boat. They're driving back. Paul suffers from a can't get no bitch'sitis where he just starts freaking out at his ex-girlfriend. Yeah, you like hit her and spat on her. Yeah, he slept him. Dude was acting totally out of control, in-cell vibes. Totally abusive. Yeah, terrible dude. Like, like, he, I hate to speak ill of the dead, but he literally might be the worst. dude ever so they were driving back and he was just doing like circles in the river yeah because he was black out drunk and eventually they hit a uh a bridge piling yeah and so they all went into the water and his girlfriend was not her body was not recovered so they meet on shore and trying to figure out what to do um not exactly his friend's girlfriend was not found sorry sorry his friend's girlfriend was found

She had a laceration of her hand. Yeah, she had a laceration of her hand. There was two girls sitting on a cooler in the front of the boat. There was Connor and Paul right by the center console. And in the back of the boat was Tony and his girlfriend, Mallory, who unfortunately, they both got thrown the farthest because the boat flipped forward and they got catapulted into the water. and Mallory, they think hit her, they think Mallory hit her head and got knocked out

and then got taken away with the current. Yeah. So they meet up on shore. The authorities come and drop the ball. The Murdoz get called and they show up at the scene with law enforcement. And basically, was it, was it Randolph Murdo

that was going around telling everybody don't talk to the police? Yeah. that was at the hospital yeah okay so so there no that was Alex Alex Alex showed up with Randolph somebody showed up at the scene of the accent right I think it was just I think that was the chief of police who they had in their pocket I forget his buddy's name and they and he started running around they then tried to start pinning the driver as Connor and cause confusion and have no

that was at the hospital yeah yeah yeah that was that I was at the hospital. All right. So they get taken the hospital. No one's identified anybody as the driver of the boat necessarily. And I think who what's the name of the boyfriend? Tony. Tony was saying that that Paul was like smiling and laughing at the scene afterwards.

And he's like, hey, my girlfriend's missing and you killed her like what's going on here. So they go to the hospital still didn't notify Mallory's family. I think Mallory's body. they found it at the scene and just tried to destroy it. I mean, not destroy it, but like keep it away and not found for a while because then there would be no crime. You think the cops did that or the kids did that? Someone that they were connected to.

So like, let's say if you're one of the uncles, let's say you're the police chief. Because I was looking at it, it's kind of weird place for them to lose the body because it's a little shallower because where they hit was on the side. like the side of the bridge I don't know which pile on exactly but that water looks pretty shallow like shallow enough for

why Tony went for the why he so easily went to the shore before checking his girlfriend okay so you're saying they got flipped the authorities come let's say 20 minutes later

and they come and find her body and keep it or put it down the lot i don't know just because the body not being found for such a long time is just something weird but they that's what happens when it's in the water and gets carried yeah they said there was a strong current yeah but just i don't know maybe it was just because it was so close in the water was shall it's like how billy's just asking questions i'm asking questions like i've i've been in situations on like small sailboats uh where like someone gets hit with the buoy or two people get hit with the buoy and like the water's shallow and people

are knocked out like I saw someone get hit with a buoy and knocked out and they like it was very obvious when they were in the water and it was shallow water that like okay but was it at night no yeah it's just weird just something weird also um you said that the water looked shallow yeah I have that idea okay all right all right I just don't understand how that Tony guy went to shore that was the first thing you thought of. Yeah. It would only if it was right there that I... To save himself.

Yeah, you're in the water. You're probably go to shore. I'm not saying Billy's like a million percent. But how do you're holding your girlfriend in a loving embrace and then you get in the water and you're not going to try to look for your girl? You're not hugging in the air. They were trying to not die. I think instinct is to survive and then once you realize, oh, shit, where is everybody?

Oh, you know, you kind of fend for yourself until you realize that people are missing. That absolutely makes it makes a lot of. of sense. But to say that the authorities came 20 minutes later and found the body and kept it, that's kind of wild. Well, you said some of the parents were even thinking like they didn't want to find the body

because they didn't want there to be an actual murder. They were saying yeah, they were saying that not because they thought that they kept her, but that they were just

stringing it along. Yeah, they weren't actually trying to find her. They were just stringing it along. So they go to the hospital and then the Murdof family shows up at the hospital. And it's Alec Murdoch, Paul's dad, not a solicitor. And then his grandfather shows up. And they have a badge. Apparently you get a badge if you're a solicitor.

So Randolph Murdoch was like, he had his badge on his shirt, which makes him look like he's law enforcement. But he really, he really is. isn't law enforcement and so they were letting him into every room and he was coaching people up saying like don't talk to the police don't give a statement you don't need to talk to him which is true that you don't have to say anything but he was coaching them up in the hospital and as some people were undergoing procedures they were like don't let this man into my room he's not my lawyer paul's girlfriend said that yeah yeah he was acting like he was everybody's lawyer he but he wasn't He told nurses and doctors, like, I am now representing these kids.

It was specifically Paul's girlfriend. And she was like, do not let this man to her. He is not my, like, representation. Because she was shady on him while they were dating. And she was obviously upset. And her and Paul were obviously not on the terms anymore. Yeah. I felt like she probably so much shit she saw dating him.

I mean, she only talked about like two events, like him. like him getting out of the overturned truck and like him watching his father detox off pills there's probably so many more stories that she has of that family and so the nurses they were like this guy sucks go tell his girlfriend that she needs to break up with right now

because he was acting like such an asshole in the hospital to like the doctor's nurses police you gotta be a dick for that to happen you gotta be like a big ass horrible human yeah multiple people did that. It wasn't like one nurse he had a bad interaction with. There's multiple people told her, hey, you need to break up with this guy.

So in the hospital, they eventually recovered, but there's still some confusion as to who was driving the boat at that point. They were trying to pin, Alec Murdoch was going around trying to say that Connor was the one driving the boat and actually, I think, went up to Connor, who was getting wheeled into an MRI or some sort of imaging.

machine and said, I know you drove, don't say anything. We'll try to get you out of this. Yeah. What a piece of shit. Yeah, bad guy. Bad family. Bad hombres. Like, sorry he got killed.

That sucks. But kind of a piece of shit. Yeah. And remember, Alec. Did he ever have a chance? A chance. To not be a piece of shit. That's, that's, yes, you can, I'm, he was probably more likely to be a piece of

of shit than most people but you could still not be one you could still not i think he was given all the all the equipment necessary yes and training but still put it all together yeah he was highly trained he was like the navy seal of being a piece of shit he probably probably the only person who could have saved him is miss gloria yeah the housekeeper who was who many said was his like real mother and he kept a picture miss gloria in his wallet yeah because maggie very obviously favored Buster. Yeah. The older, more successful son.

So I do have to agree though that if your first call is first call is to like your grandfather and not your dad, your dad probably is pissed off about that to a certain extent, right? Yeah. But don't you think that that was just kind of like the way that the relationship was with the grandfather? Yeah, the solicitor. Yeah, the patriarch.

Like, do you think, do you think Alec was taking that personally or do you think that was just like kind of the way the cookie crumbles? And he might took it personally Well, think about how many times Alec probably called his father to get out of trouble Yeah, if you grow up in your dad's shadow like that That affects you in its own way Yeah

All right, so they search for the body Eventually find it And eventually Paul is brought up on charges Of boating under the influence That caused a death That caused a death And so there are a few charges that he is

he is accused of he gets out on bail i think it was like what 50 grand something like that gets out on 50 grand bail and then kind of just goes back to living his normal life and just partying doing normal paul murdoch stuff apparently he wasn't allowed to leave the 14th district like and he should have gotten a this is why i got from a DM from someone close to the case he should have been issued a ankle bracelet and not be allowed to leave the district but he then went, like, literally overseas or, like, to Guatemala on a fishing trip. Huh. And left the district several times.

He wasn't handcuffed either. They let him get apprehended without putting on handcuffs. And when they took his mugshot, he's wearing his, like, nice dress shirt in it, which is not standard operating procedure. Yeah. I mean, unfortunately, I mean, Mallory Beach, then I think her family then later files a wrongful death suit. against Alex Murdaugh and his other son, Buster, after they found the body. So that occurs right after.

And then they try to prove, in that, that's when a lot of the stuff that was overlooked in the hearing and the indictment of Paul Murdoch gets re-brought up, like a lot of the civil case, like where everyone was positioned on the boat, how it had to be Paul driving

because Connor like cracked his jaw on a side piece and it was the only possible way who could have been driving so I mean it's one of those things that like a lot more came out

in the civil cases as opposed to the criminal case. Yeah so they also filed a suit against the bars and the convenience store for serving the alcohol that night and then so he was charged on April April 18th, 2019. Time out.

I don't know what I'm talking about it. I understand the bars, but maybe not the convenience store, because he didn't he give him a fake ID? He gave them, well, it's a real ID because it was his brothers. But it wasn't his. So it's really hard to distinguish that. You know what I mean? Like, how could you fault?

Yeah. That one would probably be tougher to prove that they were negligent. Unless they knew, there's a good possibility that they knew Paul. Yeah. Yeah. That's the case. Yeah. And I think that's why Buster was also in the suit, because he had his ID.

Gave the ID. Yeah. So he was indicted April 18, 2019. Two months later, less than two months later, Maggie, Paul's mom and Paul were found dead. They got-no, 2021. Excuse me. I'm sorry. Two years later.

Good point, Big T. Yeah. Messed up the timeline. Two years later. Now, mind you, he's still. still has not gone to trial. Right. So two years, he's been just awaiting his trial date to be set.

And he's, you know, very well connected. Now, his dad, Alec Murdoch, is not a solicitor or he's not the solicitor, but he's still a high-powered lawyer that works for a very prestigious firm. He had an army of lawyers represent him. So Paul has not gone to trial yet. And then two years later, June 7, 2021, Maggie Murdaugh and Paul, and Paul, Murdaugh were found dead on the family property they were found dead gunshot wounds by Alec Murdoe yeah they were found in two separate places around the dog kennels and what we

now know Alec Murdoz said that he was visiting his father and mother his mother with dementia at the time but a recent Snapchat video came out showing that he was at this kennels with both Paul and Maggie when it happened something I just found out through an inside source, Maggie didn't live on the camp compound at the time. She was living in a separate residence. Apparently, Alec had called her and Paul. Paul was living at the residence to come over to go see the grandparents together because the grandmother was having memory problems. It was alleged like, oh, let's try to bring her with everybody because she's probably going to die soon now i've heard that um that they were thinking about a divorce that maggie was

considering divorcing alec and then friends of the family were like no they had the perfect marriage everything was wonderful you don't always know that just by hanging out with somebody you can't say like definitively no their marriage was great but the fact that billy says through in what you would you say sources close to the investigation yes so a guy on twitter told billy that that maggie had moved out how much vetting went into these sources uh he's from the town and i checked with his location on twitter and his from the town profile picture was at uh one of the beaches near the like you could tell he's like from the place okay from the low country and they've probably been gossiping about it and know the facts way better than so your source mainstream man from south carolina nope don't

trust the mainstream media trust guy on the ground on Twitter in South Carolina but you can fact check that that's probably right that there's a guy in South Carolina that DMD you no that he he gave me enough like knowing of the case like apparently this guy also gone to a boat crash

with Paul with Paul Murdoch okay he's got boots on the ground yeah this is my favorite type of information I get because I vetted this guy he's like from there he almost gone to a boat crash with him he'd been at a beach party.

Almost or he did? Because you said he got in a boat crash. Now he almost got in a boat crash. He clipped like sometimes not a boat crash. It was more of like a clip. Like have you ever had seen? Like a boat Fenderbender? Yeah.

Billy, take us through your vetting process. I look at their profile. I try to see if there's any indication of where they live. The town they lived in is in the 14th district. Okay. And as far as this almost boat crash that he got into, what kind of vetting went into that process? He was describing like a bunch of stories of like being at a beach

party with the Murdof brothers. So, but the vetting that went to that was just he told you that. Yeah, but he seemed very convincing and close to the case. He also, he also said that he, he gave enough explanation of people. I don't want to out him too much, but he gave enough explanation of who he was and someone who was in the show that he may have been related to. I believe you. I was just curious to your reading process.

So like I connected the dots. Anyway, so it turns out like at beach parties, like cops would roll up to like the teenage beach parties and then once they saw the murder dolls were there they just like leave yeah maybe they got we're gonna fuck out of here boys are we boys yeah so so yeah they were they were found dead on the property allegedly they had been called over to go yeah visit the uh the grandparents so it was a setup in under those pretenses paul was found with shotgun blast to the chest multiple gunshot moves to the head afterwards maggie was found hit with a mad dog you know the gun blackout 300 exactly uh like an ar 15 style rifle that she was found like running

away hit with an assault weapon so they're trying to figure out who killed them right now alec murdoch says that he showed up and they're all dead but the snapchat video that just came out shows that he was definitely in the vicinity i don't i think there is either two shooters and he was one of them or two guys and didn't because like think about it the shot like maybe he's using a two shot shotgun and then switching to an air 15 type weapon but i think alec murder i was there and definitely knew who did it and was when they got shot saw it all happen and maybe it organized it but there is a possibility he need to actually pull the trigger so so he said that he uh he found the bodies after coming back from his parents from his from his from his uh visiting his mother at the hospital now

i believe he has since said he lied about that he has so because the snapchat video came out where you can clearly hear his voice in the background he's got a very he's got an unmistakable voice right like old southern voice and why me too they presented that evidence and he admitted yeah you got me that is me on the video i was there so he changed his story and now his story is that he was there on the property. He was with them down at the kennel. And then he walked back into the house to get ready to go visit his parents. And he sat down on the couch for a second, watched a little bit of TV, then got up, and then he discovered the bodies at that point. I think the uncles were involved because all the family's assets were transferred to Maggie's name. And that would have been reason

to kill Maggie. And then Maggie the wife. And then Paul just was caused all the issues and a reason to just try to make another problem go away so so after the discovery of the bodies um they start investigating it and obviously they question alec because he is you know he's close he's the husband he's the dad you're always going to question that person and then um make sure i get my dates right here then june 22nd 2021 which is less than a month after they after the shooting they reopened the investigation on on Stephen Smith's 2015 death, the first guy that we mentioned, the guy that was found in the road

and the initial speculation was a hit and run. So they reopened that investigation. That probably means that they had some reason to believe like through evidence that they collected that they might be tied somehow to that murder. And then they dropped all the charges against Paul Murdo after he died. And then Alec Murdoz,

law firm started to investigate Alec Murdoch himself. So the law firm was called P-M-P-E-D, and that was the prestigious high-powered law firm that was in town there. And the M and P-M-P-E-D stood for Murdoch because he was a partner there. So they start investigating the misuse of client funds at that point. At September 2nd, 2021, September 2nd, they investigated because he had allegedly taken a lot of settlement money from his clients and just stolen it, just 100% stolen it. So this goes back to the Satterfield case. So he had been representing the Satterfield family in some sort of, I don't know if there's a lawsuit trying to recoup money after the nanny had died. And he kept telling them, yeah, we're getting close. This type of case takes a while. Don't worry about it. He had actually won money from that

judgment and then taken it all for himself, as he was telling the family, we're still working on it. And he did this with numerous clients. I think maybe 10, 12 other settlements that he had just misinformed his clients about while just straight up taking their money. So apparently he sued his own homeowner's insurance to get money for Ms. Gloria Satterfield's sons. and was doing this with paul in mind as paul was so attached to her and apparently according to the girlfriend in the documentary uh paul was like my dad's going to do this valiant thing and sue the homeowners association of the home uh insurance it was an umbrella policy that he was getting money out of yeah i mean what's crazy is that that type of suing for accidents that goes back like five

generations of that family yeah like that was something like oh we're lawyers now we can just sue for random stuff and just get money yeah so that's september 2nd 2021 that's when his law firm catches on to what's going on and they start an investigation into him stealing money he knows that he's he's been caught with all this shit and things about to crumble down on him two days later september 4th 2021 alec murdaugh got shot on the side of the road got shot in the head but he called the cops called 911 and was like, hey, I've just been shot. I had a flat tire, or I had a low pressure tire. I was working on the side of the road. A guy came up to help, shot me in my head when I turned my back to him. So he's taking the hospital. He survives. And at that time,

he also says that he's going to go to rehab and that he resigned from PMPD because he is admitting that he embezzled, that he misappropriated all that money that was coming in. And what's crazy is he got shot in his head by a guy named Curtis Smith, right?

Allegedly. Is that still alleged? Yeah, because... Curtis Smith hasn't admitted to that? Curtis Smith said that if he had given me the gun to kill him, I would have been able to shoot him in the head. Like he would have actually killed him. Okay.

So what ended up happening was Alec Murdoe had talked to Curtis Smith and asked him to kill him. He tried to hire a hitman to kill himself so that his family could get $10 million in life insurance benefits that could go to his son. You know what's the stupidest thing is?

It turns out his coverage suicide was covered. He mistakenly thought that if he'd kill himself that it wouldn't have been covered. Oh, really? Yeah. Well, maybe he was also just like fucked up on drugs Maybe he was fucked up on drugs

And maybe he didn't like He didn't go through He was unable to go through with it So he's like it's easier if somebody else does it Than if I do it to myself Yeah So he paid this guy To try to kill him

Or he paid this guy to kill him For whatever reason he ended up not dying So he's on the side of the road With the gunshot wound his head Because he hired the worst hit man of all time Yeah Or maybe he's trying to fake his own death You thought maybe like, you know how suicide sometimes can run in the family?

What if faking your own death runs in their family? And murder. And murder. And murder. Yeah. Murder. So he's, so he claims that he had a debilitating addiction to prescription pills, oxy cotton, oxycodone, that he was taking, uh, what, like 12 pills at a time. You could see in his face that he's just so bloated.

Like anyone who looks like, like that is popping pills and and he's saying that that's why he embezzled all that money was to pay for his oxycodone addiction he did lose a lot of weight he's like way way skinnier yeah i think that's for a lot of different reasons though like the stress of being on a murder trial detoxing from pills yeah there's a lot and son are dead and you're the reason why yeah so he um he has been uh accused of how many different counts of 48 charges he's got 48 charges of financial crimes uh totaling 1.3 million dollars and so they indicted him on all that and then they added 23 new criminal charges about a year ago to that bringing up to a new total of 2.27 million so now he now he's facing a total of

73 charges for a total of over 8.37 million dollars. And they investigate him for the murder of his wife and son. He was arrested for that. He was indicted for that. And the trial is going on right now. And he decided to take the stand the other day, which is crazy. Like, he's a lawyer. He should probably know better than that. But if you decide to take the stand, then your lawyers can't stop you. It's your decision. I think from what I've seen, just in the court of public opinion, it kind of helped him. And the other thing is, you mentioned

all those dozens of financial crimes. He's going to prison for a long time, even if he doesn't get, if he gets acquitted of the murder. Like, because he's admitted in the murder trial, like, yes, I was stealing all this money. I was a piece of shit, this, that, and the other, but I didn't kill my wife and son.

So, like, he's going to go. to jail for a very long time yeah his strategy is i'm going to admit to a bunch of bad stuff that i did and so you can trust me when i say that i didn't do the really really bad thing do you do you think the uncles hired hitman to kill uh maggie and uh paul and set up their brother so he takes the fall for everything so that it puts him away and they don't get fucked because then they started just liquiding assets with buster out in vegas so i i do kind of want to talk about the trial a little bit because there isn't

there's a good bit of circumstantial evidence and I 100% believe he had something to do with this one way or the other. Yes. But there is not really a lot to any physical evidence that he

shot them. They don't have a murder weapon. They don't have really anything. He hired, well they can't They can't specify, my understanding is with a shotgun, you can't do ballistics tests on a shotgun because the way that the buckshot or whatever type of shot comes out of the barrel, it doesn't have those same grooves that a bullet would have where you can match it up to a gun 100%. But they have the rifle also, but they don't have, they don't have either gun.

You don't have either murder weapon. They don't know for a fact, yeah. They don't have, they do not have a murder weapon they can point to. which is bad for the prosecution and also there was i saw one person uh like an engineer get called to the sand that tried to break down the trajectory of the bullets and he was saying that somebody would have to be like five two to five four to to fire the uh ar 15 style gun in a way where that would make sense now he could also be like crouching on the ground and that would that would work too so it's not like a hundred it doesn't exclude him from firing the gun in the

Long grass. Yeah, but they're saying that the way, the trajectory of the bullets means that it was, it was fired at a location that was similar to, like, where his kneecap would be if he was standing up. The other thing is, I haven't seen a very strong motive for him to have done this. They kind of insinuated, like in that documentary that his marriage wasn't good, okay. I think the prosecution was like, kind of said that his financial crimes were about to come to light and that that's why.

I don't really buy that. I don't think many people do. There's not like a strong motive. Now, there's a motive for a lot of people in that town that hate that family. Yeah. So I do think he had something to do with this one way or the other. But it's just a weird... He also has a...

He's got a history of hiring hitman. He does. And he's a weird dude, and they've had a lot of deaths tied to them. I don't know. The whole thing is weird. But I, it seems like there should be more stone cold evidence against him than there really is. Yeah. Yeah, you would think that there would be a murder weapon in this situation, right?

He also took, uh, he was found with his wife's phone after. Okay. The wife had left the phone in the, the, uh, gator or the four-wheeler, whereas, um, Paul's phone was found on him. You know what's wild is I read that the, uh, the prosecutor. was able to extract data from his phone Alex phone that shows that around the time that he

that the murders would have been committed he had a lot of steps being registered on his phone when he said that he was like in the house on the couch just getting ready to go visit his parents at the hospital like just doing normal stuff around the house they said that his phone registered a high amount of activity which is something that I never even thought of that your phone is definitely like you can go back and look and see what your steps were like

apple health yeah at yeah at any given time so they're using that to to pin it on him too i i think i think he was definitely involved in it i don't know if there was a second person that was also shooting two having two guns to commit that murder seems that unless you're like intentionally trying to throw the cops off which you might have been doing but like having a shotgun and a rifle that you switch back and forth from they're taking the jury i think it might be tomorrow to the house to show them the because one of the witnesses they called said that when you see it the evidence suggests two shooters so they're taking them to view the property to show that theory yeah i mean one thing that i can kind of predict

in two uncles is that like there's going to be more stuff that comes out about this family we have not We have not heard the end of all the details behind them. And they're definitely investigating what happened with the kids' death back in 20, what, 15? Yeah. There's still more shit that we have to uncover from this family. And they still think that Miss Gloria's death was because of maybe her discovering drugs. Some of Alex's drugs and Alec pushing her down the stairs. That's why he claims he wasn't there.

I've also seen theories that they think Maggie's the one that pushed her down the stairs Yeah, about infidelity Interesting So I think he definitely had some to do with it though Alec is involved in the double homicide

As far as I'm concerned I told Billy this earlier I don't know if he's the one that pulled the trigger But he knows who did If you're swimming through a painkiller addiction To the extent that he says that he was Popping all those pills He was fucked up all the time at the time.

And the stress of his son and his son's boating homicide trial or whatever it's classified as, as well as him being, you know, getting caught for all these, like his entire career has been a sham. The stress of all that happening, parents have killed their families for less than that before. Because they were, he was so worried, like throughout this trial, you can see he was so worried. about their name and their reputation that he would almost, I think, rather have Paul be dead than have his name be tarnished. Yeah. And what happened with the Vegas trip?

Basically, Buster was caught. He was just such a ginger. Buster is the biggest ginger out of all of them. Buster was caught, and that's why he was so recognizable. There was a picture taking of him at a Vegas blackjack table or roulette table. And during one of the jailhouse calls, you hear him telling like, yeah, apparently I'm a national figure they took a picture of me and i think one of the uncles at the table while they're out there trying to liquidate all the assets to get as much money as they could it's tough to lay low

when you're that conspicuous yeah when your hair is that red i would dye my hair yeah i would never yeah i would never think that it was a murdof like somebody came in here with like dark black hair he was in a mask yeah he's been wearing a mask a lot in court yeah oh you're talking about at the at the blackjack tank yeah yeah he was wearing a mask um but in court Alex's been wearing a mask a lot and I think that's just it makes you look more frail it's like how when when he should have stayed bald the bald made him look really skinny and old yeah it's like when um I'm trying to remember the name of the lady that was accused of murder that she just started wearing glasses out of nowhere to her trial oh um Jody something Joe was that Jody Arias yeah I think yeah it's like

Look like a librarian when you go to trial. If you're a guy and you're on trial for murder, I think the strategy is like look extremely sick. The mask probably masks emotions too. Yeah. Also, you just shouldn't take the stand. Actually, you know what? Why do you say that?

Here's the thing. Well, legally, you should never take the same. There's little that can go right and a lot that can go wrong. Yeah. The only thing I would say is if I was accused of a murder I didn't commit, I would want to scream it out loud to anybody that would listen to me like I'm innocent this this is not true uh so it probably takes it would take a lot if I was truly innocent for my lawyers to be like don't take the stand right now yeah I I absolutely agree but isn't that like

that's probably the logic that they're going by right it might be yeah what about you Aaron would you rather have a jury or a judge it depends on what the crime was if it was murder um nah or shit

no i think i go to jury yeah i would too because big t it's the same logic right even if you were innocent of everything you'd rather have take your chances one out of 12 people yeah i think it's also different in my my predicament than big t judges see a lot of criminals

and like they have a bias towards how people look period jurors do too this is back to my data but if I possibly have a jury of my peers they'd be less likely to have a bias

towards me because of how I look and so I would rather take the chances of getting a jury of my peers rather than a judge who sees criminals all day long that possibly look like me um also uh in some states you can't get a bench trial for first degree murder it looks like that has to be tried by a jury so do we have any idea how long this trial's going to take i mean nobody really knows i think it's concluding okay relatively soon

i think it's been going like three weeks they're going to convict this guy right i don't know i think so Because if he gets found not guilty, he'll go to prison, certainly. Not for... But they have to have another trial for that, though? Yeah. I don't know how long that trial will be because he admitted to everything on the stand. So he admitted to the financial crimes. I think though...

But you would still have to go through it and, like, the arraignment process. I don't think you should be like, oh, I did that. I don't know. I don't know enough about it, but that wouldn't make sense to me. Well, they could give him a deal since he's already admitted. True. Yeah. Be like, we've got you.

on these 73, it would be 180 years. We'll give you 40. Then he's going to get, but before that happens he'll probably be released on his own, right? I guess. Yeah. So he'll be free for a little bit. I mean, he'll be under indictment, but

he'll... He's going to die. He's probably going to hide another hit man. Yeah, he's going to die. Yeah. Or he'll do himself. I would be shocked if this guy lived to the second trial if he does get off. Yeah, it seems like there's no way he lives a

lives out the rest of his days happily no he's either going to prison for this or he'll go to prison for the financial stuff long enough that on 70 charges if they're all six months that's enough that that's the rest of his life yeah and then

if he somehow got like yeah he'll probably just kill himself I think so under the caveat that I have no boots on the ground like Billy in this situation and no locked-in sources with a finger on the Post of Law Enforcement. It seems to me I would envision this being a case of Alec and an unnamed accomplice being in cahoots committing these murders.

It does feel like there could be two shooters in it because the shotgun and the rifle, you hear one blast. If you're, let's say, who got shot first? Do we even know? I think Paul got shot first. So if you hear the gunshot go off, Paul gets shot two times in rapid succession, and then he switches to a rifle and then is able to shoot the wife. It's not impossible, but it seems, I bet if you were to look at double murders that take place across the country, very, very small percentage of them are done using two weapons. Yeah, I mean.

It wasn't one of the weapons that guys. super unique kind of AR. Mad Dog? The Blackout 300, yes. There you go. So it's like, I'm with you, I don't, I obviously don't know, but it's like, it just seems like so much effort

to switch guns. Yeah. But if that's what you're going for, I get that too. I don't know. I'm actually not sure. I just know it's a shotgun in the AR. Maybe he like popped, like, Paul might have been hit with two different

of guns like he may have been finished off with the shotgun like he was shot once and then he wasn't dying or like let's say this you're your your alec murdaw you hire a guy to kill him the guy shoots both of them uh Paul shot in the chest Alec murdoch sees it all and the guy runs off and then you realize that your son's still alive and you have to finish him off with your shotgun well because he was shot in the chest and then up into the brain I mean, that's, but that's the hard part about convicting him is that you have to be, one, beyond a reasonable doubt that he's the one that pulled the trigger on both of them.

Like, conspiracy to murder is a different charge. I think they should lock up the entire family. Well, it's just him and Buster left. Better safe than sorry. Yeah, Buster's committed enough pre-crime. Yes. I'm a fan of law and order, but. Six months and let's observe and then we'll reevaluate.

The line stops here. No more Murdoz. Yeah. We've had enough Murdoz in South Carolina. What about is the grandfather Randolph? Is he still alive? No, he died in 21. Okay.

He might have died of COVID. Okay. Can't confirm that. But he passed away either from the stress and guilt or something. Yeah. What a fuck up though. Like, you have this family fortune, and it's all, it's all thrown away because you're just bad humans. That's crazy.

It kind of makes sense, though, or I mean, it makes sense for a lot of reasons that Alex Murdoch, Alec Murdoz is the one that did it, but he has motives kind of to kill both of them, because he didn't want to tarnish Paul's name, and then if Maggie was going to a forensic accountant and looking at divorce attorneys, like, they're not reasons to kill someone, but that could be. you know yeah look if you're the type of person that would murder somebody right and if you're like so bagged up on opioids yeah looking back at the snapchat videos they were covered uh i don't think he was in any state of mind to be able to kill his kids because he was literally adjusting a tree i don't know but that i mean that that's one snapchat video that's so out of context what really

matters is that he was at the that's very impressive mad dog yes what you what you took like a piece of video and you're, as a zoomer, you're able to understand this, this five second clip might not tell the entire story about everything that was going on at the time. Thank you. That's good. That's good. I'm hopeful for future generations. Like the adjusting the tree, I don't think, like, puts him in the light of, like, he couldn't,

he couldn't kill someone. He was playing with the tree on the property. I don't know. I just, I have a hard time. This man was so full of life. Right. Yeah. Like, that doesn't really.

I don't know. It was just like, he was probably doing busy work waiting around for the hitman to come. I mean, would he have been able to get away with saying he was visiting his parents in the hospital? Did he have, like, some sort of setup where he had, like, he was able to establish that as his alibi? Or is it just purely the luck of his son using Snapchat that hemmed him up? The luck. He probably had no idea he took that Snapchat. Well.

No. No, no, no. Also, they're on star in his car. caught him coming home and coming back. So it wasn't just the Snapchat that ruined his alibi. The OnStar tracked his... Did he say why he lied about the alibi? Because he's trying not to get convicted for murder.

And he's just... He just... He said he was like, I'm sorry, I lied. He basically was like, once you get wrapped up in one lie, it's hard to get out of it. Yeah, he used the... It snowballed defense. Yeah, which is not a good defense.

He realized that... as an attorney, someone that's been around court cases his entire life, that he was going to be suspected heavily. So he wanted to try to get his name out of the contention for being a suspect. And then he gave them that lie. And then he lied about the lie. Then he lied about another lie. I think he said on the, on the stand, he goes, oh, what a tangled web we weave.

Yes, he did. Yeah. Was that Shakespeare that said that? I don't, I don't remember. I think it might be bad. I don't remember. But he's so poetic at the fucking. I understand murder trial.

And it was, the, that was an answer to a question. I, I forget what the question was. But it was something along the lines of like, you've told all these lies, this, that, and the other like, what. And he was just, you know, what a tangled web we weef. Yeah. It was NATO's boys will be boys about a murder. Yeah. Yeah.

Billy, you could, you can learn to use that line. I'm so itchy right now. I don't think I said that on this podcast. I got attacked by fleas and the Benadryl is wearing off again. Billy has fleas. Why do you have fleas? I had fleas.

Why do you have fleas? His dog got fleas and then Billy got fleas from his dog. I don't know. You lay down with dogs. You wake up with fleas. That's, yeah, that's also shit. I literally was on my couch. I was literally on my couch watching this documentary.

that I started getting bitten, and I was like, holy shit. He's got fleas. And I just dumped him in a flea shower and took a flea shower myself. All you dog owners that get fleas, you deserve it. Stop it. Is what it is. Stop it. It wasn't Shakespeare.

It was Sir Walter Scott. Oh, okay. Hey, guys, the city MD closed at 8. I think I'm going to run over. Okay, Billy's, if this was NBA injury report, Billy Football, not expected to return parentheses flea. No, lower body That's NHL

Yeah NHL will be lower body Is it lower body or is an upper It's a full body or is an upper? All lower body All right so okay Your balls No no just like

Like legs Okay Got to really A boy really got fleas That she's crazy This is this is the first I've heard of something like this So this could be

this is very funny if this is true this also could be Billy's most hilarious lie where he has to like... No, no, no, it's not. He told me about it early. It is 7.30 p.m. Yeah. So, you know. He might have been planning this for a while and he's like got to go meet up with his boys for some beers. Yeah. He's like, I've got the perfect perfect excuse. I'm going to tell people all day I've got fleas. I will say though. I was talking to Billy earlier. Oh, what a tangle way

we leave you. I was talking to Billy earlier and he was saying that why he got fleas and I was like, oh, my god that's so like that sucks and i go can humans get like infected with fleas i that's a simple a simple question and he goes oh you can get bit but you can't get infected yeah he's it's all part of his master plan he seems to have been bringing up the fleas conversation with a lot of people today he's like first i'll go to mad dog she's the nicest anybody know if billy frequents any tuesday night eight o'clock bar trivias anything like that going back to hoboken yeah what If I was a Billy, where would I be?

Oh, he also said not to, not to, you know, convict him, but he also said he was driving Dugues home from work today. Damn, and Dugues back at it. Someone get Dugues up on. Hey, go see if Dugues is out there. He said he was staying late for some college basketball thing. This would be the best Billy Lye ever because he also, he also brought it up on part of my tape.

Did he? Yeah, yeah, he was like, I think it was his hot seat, my hot seat is me. I meant to mention this earlier, but this goes along with this Billy thing in the in the 911 call that Alec Murdoch made and I try not to judge those very often because you never know. I think it's generally unfair to judge someone who is going through something like that. But he they're like he explains what happens and the 911 operator goes, okay, don't touch them. Just wait for the cop scoos. Oh, I already did. I did. I checked to see if they had a pulse. So to give himself an out. Like, I guess if they had DNA on them or whatever, that's, Billy, you know, has brought up today several times, this flea thing. Very interesting. I hope it's a lie. Oh, my God.

I hope this is. That would be hilarious. Me too, honestly. But again, I've never, I've never heard of a human getting. No, you can get, you can get pit by fleas for sure. What's the verdict? He left by himself. Okay.

There's a good chance that Billy does actually have fleas. I think so. But it's, but it would be very funny if, if this comes out on. Thursday. Yeah. If any of y'all out there in New York see Billy on Tuesday night at a bar, let us know. If you had seen it. Yep.

I will say, let us know. Billy, if Billy did that, his alibi was pretty good based on the story he told me. But. That would be a lot making up a whole flea story. That's a weird story. That's that, well, Billy said weird things, I guess. Also, it would make sense. Yes, it would.

Do we have any voicemails we want to get? into? We do. So we all think he did it, right? Yeah, he was involved. In some former fashion. I would say that he killed somebody. He's killed someone. There's five bodies connected to them

in the past six years. He's killed somebody. World's better without Murdox in general. Lock him up. Yeah. Yeah. But interesting documentary. Man, was it good? Okay. Okay, ready?

So I'm macrodosing. It's Brian from Colorado. You're all beautiful. I wanted to ask if Big T has ever actually mowed a lawn in his life. I'm watching the stream that seems like he's doing his edging work prior to using the big mower, which is just completely backwards. and then I guess everybody what was your least favorite shore growing up thank you and stay beautiful okay this is the highest man in life a couple things mode of mini lawns I don't know that I've ever

used a trimmer before I've just like cut grass but people are so pressed about how I cut the grass in the video game it's unbelievable i look down at the chat every time and they're like you're cutting it wrong you need to be doing this that and the other it's using a uh mower that is it's crazy the amount that people care how you cut the grass on the video it it just means they care man that's all man don't take it you know they enjoy it i guess it's better to have people who care about big team mowers than not but it is a bit much but to enter into it to answer the second part question uh least favorite chore

taking out the trash only because it was so easy that I would always be like oh I'll go do that in five minutes and then I wouldn't do it and then I'd be and then I'd get yelled at for not doing it but it was always just so easy to do that it was easy to put off I guess that makes sense easy to do easy not to do right yeah Yep. Mine was, it's very, oh, my God. So when we was growing up, when we finally moved to a house, we moved to this small little house. And the AC unit was on the roof. I don't know a lot about AC units, but usually what happens is like you put the pads on the AC unit.

Like you had to replace the pad with filters or whatever. Or like, they look like robin noodles, like these little pads on the things. and there's like a water unit that would wet the pads to help the full air come in, right? Well, the water thing broke on ours. And so me and my brother used to have to take turns when the AC was on and it wasn't blowing cool air, we had to go on the roof with the hose and wet the pads. So we literally fucking seven, eight years old dog,

climbing on the roof, wetting the pads to my dad's liking to make sure that the air was cold. fucking insane i like that that's awesome it was not awesome um hmm bad chores i hated unloading the dishwasher i liked loading it for some reason me too because i think you can just like put whatever you no rhyme or reason you just throw shit in there basically and i hated unloading that shit so that would be it my dad also bought a wood splitter at one point and uh he had me go out and like split a bunch of wood for him without telling me that

well there's no way for him to know but the wood pile was infested with brown recluse spiders and I didn't know that and I got bit I think four times by the I think they were baby brown recluse spiders so that sucked

that was then that quickly became my least favorite chore damn I don't fuck for spiders Maddie At least you have a chore I hated This is kind of like big T's where it was just so easy

I didn't want to do it was Bringing my clothes down to the laundry room Like from upstairs to the basement The two flights upstairs got me And I don't know why and it was so stupid But it would be the same thing of like It was so fucking easy and I just never wanted to do it Two flights is a lot of flights

That's what I'm saying Or bringing it back up Like when the laundry is done, then you've got to bring it up the two flights. And I would put it off until, like, then my laundry would overflow because I was putting it off for so long. Then I got to do two trips and so all the thing. But yeah. I don't know. Everything about you.

Nothing was worse than having a snow day. And then your dad telling you to wake up and shovel the driveway. There was nothing worse than that. You got a snow day and you're inside hanging out or you're outside with your friends. But no, you got to shovel the driveway. driveway um counterpoint to that when you finish shoveling the driveway the hot chocolate when you get inside afterwards definitely hits different that's a great cup of hot chocolate yeah that is true i'm not like a huge hot chocolate guy only because i'm not like like hot drinks are tough

that's ridiculous what i just don't like hot chocolate it's just okay no burns my mouth days. No. That was one of those things that I didn't have to do as a girl. Are we good for the next voicemail? Hey, this is Joe from Baton Rouge. I want to say, I love you all. My favorite podcast on the internet, only one.

My question is, what do you think is the greatest, day in human history. And I'm not saying like just your own personal history, but just community and the whole. So I love to hear what y'all say. Aryan represent. I'm from New Mexico as well, so it's good to have an end native on the pod.

I love you all. I don't agree with you on anything in the world, but I still love you. So hopefully, watch you later. All right. that's fair enough what was the what was the question he said the greatest day

the greatest day in human history ever not just yours oh man that's a really good question I would say the day that our ancestors one of the motherfuckers whoever was

discovered how to curate fire that's a good day I'm talking about our diets change, the nutrients we have change, it spurred agriculture, industrial revolution, everything. We can live in different places. That's a good day. Now, it's a good day for the person that discovered it, but then it took a while for that to catch on for them to go to like the next village to be like, yo, check this shit out. I got that, I got that fire. I got that. I got that fire. Like that was, that was, you know what? That was a good.

day for that one person that ended up granting great days to so many other people on subsequent days after that like a million years later he's still out here like the gift that kept giving. Yeah, shout out was it Prometheus? Stole fire

from the gods, right? I don't know, I might just be making that up. That's a very, that's a good choice. Electricity is probably up there too. Yeah. The day Nintendo 64 came out was a great day. Do you guys You guys probably don't.

Ari knows what I'm talking about. I remember that. Did you get... I didn't have one. I didn't either, but my friend did. No. What year sounds? The homie had it.

It's probably two... No, two. Ninety-nine. Ninety-six? Ninety-seven? I was going to say 96 sounds about right. Wasn't even boring. Not alive.

So 96, N-64 comes out. Your friend had one. What game did he have? Right off the bat? He had, um, I remember it. It was, uh star fox and then uh mario cart maryl car 64 was fucking that was a banger dog those are great games too so all the whole like all the kids in the neighborhood would i go to his house and go play

and then he ended up getting madden too madden was madden was fire on n64 yeah then golden eye came out olden eye yep i remember i went over my friend mark's house when he got it and he just had he had the starter pack so it came with n64 and then it had uh super mario world or whatever that was maybe it was like mario 64 whatever the first one was like the first one was like three three d uh you have 360 view of mario that really it changed the game i can't stress enough how much different video games were before in 64 every game was just the the two-dimensional your character would travel right words across the screen and then you just keep doing that You just try to make it as far right as possible.

That's why I liked, that's why I loved it. That's why I liked, um, that's why I loved, um, uh, Mike Tyson's punchout on Nintendo because it was, it wasn't like all the, all the other games and it had a little different element to it than just left to right. Yeah. Yeah, you're going forward, backward, forward backward. Mm-hmm. That was, yeah, in 64 is a good day. What do you think, Big T? find an interesting nobody's picked the day Hitler died a lot of pro-Hitler people on here

that's what I might go with personally I mean I'm anti-Hitler I don't know about y'all okay fair but also on that day Hitler killed Hitler so that was Hitler's biggest dub sure

I honestly like this is such a this is such like a meta question I don't I don't know what my answer is honestly whatever day air conditioning was invented that's my one that's the greatest dimension in human history air conditioning

it's definitely up there yeah I would say fire fire and air conditioning to tell probably or the chair fire isn't an invention discovery discovery electricity or air you can't have air conditioning without electricity

that's fair um i'm still going ac it is nice walking into a nice cool room when it's 95 degrees outside there is nothing better the thing about the thing about not being able to see when the sun goes away and then all of a sudden being able to see when the sun goes you know what i'm saying like that's that's that's wild like that's life changes shit i'm kind of down for that i think i think we might need a reset. I would be with that actually. Cut out all lights. I think that would be the dope of shit in the world

is to like have the world agree on this. A day with no electricity, just one day out of the year, or maybe once every five years so that we could see the stars how they're supposed to be seeing. That would be fucking fantastic. You could just become a Hasidic Jew.

Yep. Call it touch grass day. Everybody has to go touch grass. I'm okay with that. Touch grass day. I kind of like that. Yeah, turn off all the lights.

Ready Player 1 vibes. Yeah, there would be a, you think there'd be a purge on that day? Probably, yeah. It's probably be some stupid people for sure. Some bad shit would happen. Yeah. At least you get to die looking at the stars.

Every day above ground is a good day. That's what I always say. Is that pit bull? It might be pit bull. I don't know. Is that a pit bull quote? Yeah. I knew my rent was going to be.

go. This podcast is range. Pitbull and Shakespeare. Uh-huh. You have another one? One more, yeah. Which is maybe my favorite voicemail that I've heard on this podcast. It better be, because I was going to say, I don't want to pull a billy,

but how many voicemails are we doing at 8 p.m.? We have one more, this last one. Hey, guys. My name's Ryan. I'm here. I have a couple questions for you guys here, but the questions aren't actually from me. I'm here. with Miss Joyce's third grade class here in Dripping Springs, Texas.

So I guess a couple of the students have listened to a few episodes and they have submitted a few questions for you guys and I will read out. Youngsters. The first question is from Johnny. Hey, PFT, what is your favorite color? Blue, easy.

My next question I have here is from Timmy. Timmy asks, hey, mad dog, what did you want to be when you grew up? AECDiologist. here is from Sarah. Sarah asks, Hey, Aryan, you seem to be awfully dismissive of all the Hunter Biden stories.

Would you be equally as dismissive if it was Donald Trump Jr. Doing the same thing? Just a question. This third grade class sounds pretty woke. From Ms. Joyce's third grade class. Thank you to the students for submitting the questions.

As for myself, I love you guys. I listen to every episode. You guys are the best. Um, and on close as a note, I think you guys are all, all mid. Not for Big T's a legend, but I mean, you guys are mid. Somebody's got to humble you, right? This guy's based. All right.

Uh, great. Thank you for the questions, Ms. Joyce's third grade class. So, Aaron, you will be playing the role of Patrick Ewing. Going to the class. Uh, what was the, it was, it was if I'm, I'm dismissive of Hunter Biden's doings, would I be equally dismissive of Donald Trump Jr.'s doings. Yes. Couldn't give shit less about what the sons

are doing. I assume everybody's corrupt and their families and so they're probably doing bad shit, but I don't care unless it affects policy and how people live their lives. Miss Joyce's third grade class. Yeah, I thought that was funny. That was a good question. Now, if it's Jared Kushner, who's

his son-in-law, who had like an official position. You remember Jerry Kushner? He solved the Middle East process. You remember that? Yeah, it's peaceful with her now. Can't argue with results. All right. That does it for this week's macro dosing. Thank you guys for listening.

And also shout out to Billy, Big T, Avery, Mad Dog, and Arian for recording on Tuesday night. Appreciate you guys. Of course. So we will see you guys next week. Big guest coming in the studio next week. And Arian. For next Thursday's show and Arian coming to New York. So, Aaron, we will figure out the golf situation as well because we will get a few holes.

in. Perfect. All right. Love you guys.