Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - NANODOSE: Billy and The Wonton Don Find Mammoth Bones

Episode Date: January 10, 2023

On today's episode of Nanodosing, Billy and The Wonton Don share their stories from the East River expedition they went on to find Mammoth bones. You'll hear it all and you won't want to miss it. Make sure to tune into MACRODOSING, every Thursday at 12am EST.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macro dosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Three, two, one. Welcome back to nanodosing. It's Monday. It is January. Actually, I'm wrong off the bell. Let me just restart that so I get the day of the week, correct.

Three, two, one. Okay, welcome back to nanodosing. It is Tuesday, January 10th. You can actually leave that fake false start in there for a second. and people are going to freak out. It's Tuesday. I always get that tripped up because we recorded on a Monday, but we're live in studio here.

And we've got a special guest, Donnie. Donnie does is joining us today to recap the great mammoth bone hunt of 2023. The bone rush. The bone rush. I like that. Now, I did read a story that people that go exploring for bones, not like digging for fossils because that's different. That's paleontology.

You guys are boners. Yep. They actually call you guys boners. I feel like a boner I mean think about it I woke up at 5 a.m. on Saturday with a boner going boning

and boners just tend to wake you up early Did you get a wait You got a boner for bones No I woke up and woke Donnie up I think Donnie woke me up Oh so you guys Boner woke me up Okay yeah got it

And you know that happens to me every morning Ptutory glands still working well That's good And if it wasn't I get boners when I'm driving to the airport For some reason I get boners on planes. I don't know.

Oh, God. Sweat pants, for some reason, give me a boner. Oh, really? Yeah, like loose-fitting sweatpants. I'm actually going to give me all around on them. You should not do jumpsuit January. It's something to do with like the altitude. No, for me, it's, I don't know, like, for some reason the car ride to an airport,

I usually fall asleep on it. And then I wake up and I'm like, well, I got one of these plane boners. It's because I'm excited to fly on a plane probably. My body knows that. I'm just kidding I don't get bonners on planes Yeah that's totally a bit It's just fake

That was a bit That was a bit He wanted to see if you guys Would believe it Yeah So if you see me on a plane You fooled me I know when I did dry January

Last year I was getting rock hard Morning Wood Like harder than normal Morning Wood Yeah I've actually been doing a lot of research When the Liver King

went down I started like Look into the science Behind like consuming Liver Animal liver And like Why he was so obsessed

with the liver and the liver releases IGF1 which everyone knows like what HGH is human growth hormone it's released by your pituitary gland but what the HGH then does is trigger your liver to release IGF which is insulin growth factor and that's what you know makes you that that's like the fountain of youth a lot of people shoot IGF up Joe Rogan does it where you get this information from Billy like dude just Google it just Joe Rogan no Joe no no this is we're getting some science stuff and now anytime we get too far into some actual this is bro science yeah medical I'm always curious to know like what your sources are because I usually get one or two tweets from people afterwards being like hey um you should fact check some

of what billy says okay about science well anyway guess what the liver produces IGF so when you're boozing all the time it's the worst thing for gains and it's one of the reasons why you feel shitty and can't put on muscle if you're like drinking a lot okay uh so that absolutely like When you go dry, your body is just like, holy shit, my liver doesn't have to just filter out bad shit for my body. You can actually do what it's supposed to do and produce IGF. And, yeah. So if you start taking care of your liver extra hard, it's actually going to give you super gains. Okay.

I will take care of my liver. I actually might start eating raw liver. Can't you just take, wait, is fish oil? That's good for your heart, right? Fish oil is just a type of. So what I understand is fish. oil is a certain type of fat that is more likely to get turned into good hormones. It's a mega three fatty acids.

Yeah. And so that that helps neutral. I think I might be right about this. It neutralizes free radicals. I don't know. I might be making it up. All I know is that fat makes hormones. Good fat makes better hormones.

Cholesterol isn't like good cholesterol produces good hormones. Yeah. So omega three has a lot of good cholesterol on it. And they may they may be a sponge for free radicals. that prevent them from attacking omega-6s. So you want to neutralize all the free radicals because those will damage your cells. Yeah.

So I might have to, you know what? I'm getting healthy. I'm doing pretty much dry January. Bill, you're in, right? Yeah. You guys in for pretty much dry January? I'm full dry January. I'm dry as a bone.

That's a bit much. Yeah, it sucks. Big Tee, you down? Pretty much dry January? Yeah, most of my months are pretty much dry. Good. Good. Donnie, you down?

100%. Okay. Basically, the rules are just like try not to drink on Tuesdays. Try not to drink every day of the week. Yeah, and Wednesdays. If you can take a couple days off, then you can say you pretty much did it. I put a really good week on the books last week. Did you?

Really good week. What percent are we talking about? Like work out every day, no booze. Then Friday took it light because we had to wake up at 6 a.m. to go diving to the bottom of the... Actually, why don't we start there? Well, why don't we start... Oh, shit. I just realized my birthday is on a Tuesday.

this year. I'm not going to be able to take that one off. Mine's on a Friday, so it's perfect. Sick, that you have a birthday. It is nice, isn't it? It's actually birthday week, January 31st. That's right. But is birthday week this week? Billy's birthday. Yeah. When? Birthday boy on Friday.

Yeah, turned 24. Jesus Christ. I remember I had a cousin when I was younger who was like 24, and I was like, that dude is an adult. Kobe year. Yeah. Post charges. That was 24? Yeah.

Eight was the bad one. Gotcha. Congrats, Billy. Crazy eight. It's a great Daniel Tosh joke. You're pretty much an adult. Yeah, but 24 is like, it's been kind of like a weird situation ever since you turned 21 because there's no like, I don't, I can still rent a car just pay a little extra. There's nothing really you gain except like, oh, 24, you're almost 25.

You're halfway through your 20s. Yeah. I wouldn't be too concerned. I think 30 to 35 have been some of the best years. in my life. So it can only go up. I think I think after 40 is when it might start trending downwards. Yeah. I agree with yeah. 30 through 35 best years of my life for sure. Um, 25 through 30 was pretty good too. 20 through 25 was like fun at the time. But in retrospect, you're like, well, I was such an idiot. Didn't have the contracts 25 to 30 though. Didn't have the contracts.

No, sir. No sir. Back when I was a Democrat. He had documents. Yeah. Back when I was a, back when I was a lib, they always say, like, if you, if you're a conservative in your 20s, you have no heart. If you're a liberal in your 30s, you have no brain. Yeah. So I made the switch. I'm far right now because I'm rich. So it's been pretty good, pretty good switching over to the GOP. We had a big weekend. My GOB boys. Yeah. City boys up. Yeah. Facts. Yeah, DC boys. 14 votes. Kevin McCarthy finally got it. at the end of the day.

Yeah, and we know, Brasilia, we ran that city. I guess right hand up. Yeah, right hand up. Right hand up on Capitol Hill. McCarthy's back his speaker. We've got Matt Gates almost got into a fight with somebody or somebody tried to attack Matt Gates.

They got to be held back. By his mouth. That was the most emasculating get-back guy of all time. The dude, I think he was from Alabama, I want to say. The guy with the hairpiece. Yeah. Big boy. He came charging at Gates after Gates voted present and somebody came behind him and like grabbed him by the mouth and pulled

him back. And if you get grabbed by the mouth, like I would go Quay Walker on him. I would just turn around and immediately shove that guy because you don't touch another man's mouth. That's rule number one. Fish hooking is some of the stupidest move of all time in a fight because you're going to lose your finger. Yeah. I don't know anyone who actually can pull off a good fish hook type move. Like you can get bit. If you put your hand near another man's mouth, mouth in a violent way you're like if they bite you that's all on it's on you yeah we got arian join us arian how's it going we're doing all right it's going it's going good man everything is everything is everything i like that i like that du rag you have on this is not a duress this is just a

bandana it's sick what's the difference uh du rag's like a little like it's fit to form of your head and you tie it around a bandana is just like a square uh cloth that you fold and wrap around a hit got it to america's moment right there for sure you thought there was the same thing yeah i thought i thought i thought that du rags were just bandanas that you just know no well have you ever seen a du rag untied i don't know that i have it's like a very different shape really oh i thought they were as he was saying it comes like formed to your head so you don't even have to tie it no you got tie it it's like it's like i guess the best shape i can't even explain it's not a real shape so it's like I don't know if it fits the head and then it and then it's

it's like a little cape in the back and it comes with these long strings and then you tie it in the yeah how you know you never seen a du rag bro yeah you're telling on yourself I don't think I've ever seen a du rag untied never had one black friend like one someone went to a homogenous high school he's a quaker he's a quaker you got to give him a break I'm trying I'm trying to think like I just don't think that my friends were ever wearing du rags for whatever reason. Your friends had no waves, bro. Yeah, mostly like, no waves. Probably. Probably. We're a baseball cap crew. What can I say? Um, but welcome, welcome, Marion. Yes. How are things? We're just talking about, uh, what's going on on Capitol Hill and, uh, and the votes that they had there. I

don't know if you saw the clip of there was this one congressperson that tried to attack Matt Gates and somebody had to pull him back and they pulled him back by his mouth. I didn't see it. Please send that to a group. I have not seen this. Can someone try to find that and throw that in the group chat? I found it a second ago because I hadn't seen it. Like I always knew people on the left hated gates, but like I didn't know he was that kind of hated on the right now too.

I think he's just an annoying dude. Yeah, just like a parasite of sorts. Yeah. His whole MO seems to be just try to suck up to Trump as much as possible and then always try to be the closest guy to Trump. Yeah. Anytime you do that, then you're going to have to like push some. other people out of the way to get there. Also, he's going after people in his own party because of money and politics.

He does have a good sound clip where he basically goes against everybody who's getting inside your stock trading. I also, I don't- You ever seen Cone hits? Remember the movie Cone hits? Yeah. You remember David Spade in that movie? It was like whoever the boss was, he was just always sucking up to him.

Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. He's figured out a good way to always, he's always going to be like the most outspoken guy in terms of like throwing accusations at people for things that may or may not be true, even if it's people in his own party. And so people are just kind of sick of his shit, I think. I also don't like to judge people off the looks,

but if you just lined up every member of the house and was like, oh, which guy sucks the most? I would choose Matt Gates just based off of his appearance. He's got a five head. Batman villain. Yeah. he looks like a oh he looks like the penguin cartoon character

he's a little too thin to be the penguin I know he's got that same he's got like an hourglass shaped head it goes out then in and then out

like his head's got an ass bro he's American dad American dad yeah yeah yeah yeah no he gives me Sam Darnold

a little bit holy shit wait yeah it's giving Sam do we know what that beef was and why my man got fish hooked not sure not sure uh i think that that gates was like demanding a bunch of stuff from mccarthy in exchange for a present vote and so gates got like a lot of concessions given to him personally and i don't think that i don't know maybe somebody was upset that they didn't get what they wanted

out of it they thought that gates was being selfish but we have a speaker now the whole system's so hilarious it's so funny like it's just that you could literally that's what they was doing right they was just holding all the republicans up they was just they had them hot you had them houses with your vote that's hilarious yep yep so now they're now things are back to normal i guess i don't really understand how the house representative works i wish that we had um something that was more similar to what they do over in england where people they just like boo each other and it's it's more of like a drunken mess on the floor of what is it like house the parliament there yeah yeah so do they have like a crowd noise meter and that's how they choose votes i think so and they've

like how loud the booze are. And they've also got some people that like you wave your handkerchief in support or when you hate something. I don't know. There's a visual aspect to it too. That's pretty funny. And I always feel like in in various Asian countries

it's more likely to actually have fisticuffs like like a fight. Yeah. Oh. Is that true? Is that true? There was a huge brawl in Indonesia or something was it. I don't know. Maybe it was Sri Lanka.

I don't know. I just remember there was a viral video of a huge brawl. breaking out in Congress or the house. Uruguay had a brawl recently. Yeah. I remember because it was funny because they were drinking Mote. Yep. That's right.

I remember you show me that. They're all getting hopped up on Mote. But you know what? I saw a video of the last duel in France. There was two local politicians from our small town. And there's video of the last duel that took place in France. And it's just two dudes sword fighting. And it was like the 60s or 70s.

And I was like, that's so fucking cool. Did somebody die? No, one guy got cut up pretty bad and he, you know, bent the knee. That's like, how cool is that? That would, we should bring back tools. Like, imagine, we should bring back tools. I actually have a relative that was killed in a duel, very far distant relative due to some politics stuff. Like, how distant are we talking about here?

Like, in name only, no real connection. What does that mean? Like, they were related to? Any relation is in name only. Yeah, but it's very distant, like hundreds of years ago. They get shot? Yeah, it was a shooting deal, yeah. It had to do with Andrew Johnson and some of that stuff.

Oh, he was like defending Andrew Johnson? No, no. Andrew Jackson, yeah, old Hickory. Old Hickory messed with some of his stuff. Did Andrew Jackson kill your great-grandfather? No. Andrew Jackson's like party mate killed on the banks of the Delaware. His henchman?

Yeah, one of his henchmen in like a... Was it in that massive duel that turned into like a big shootout? Let me look it up exactly. Because I think I've heard about this story before. Yeah, duels were kind of common back in the day. And I guess the best case scenario was this both people turn around and both miss. And then you could both say, all right, we had the duel. We were both man enough to show up for the duel and no one died.

Yeah. Most disputes die and no one shoot. Shout out Hamilton. I was just going to say Hamilton. Oh, wow. I didn't know that that was a thing. number four. What is this saying?

What is this? The Ten Dual Commandments. Look it up. Great song. Everything's legal in New Jersey. Wait, is that like dual commandment? Is that like based off the Biggie song, the Ten Crack Commandments, except they do it about dueling? Probably.

Yeah. That's wild. Yeah, it was related to 2015. Absolutely. Jacked him. Well, yeah, it's in Hamilton. If you were to duel. So wait, wait, Donnie.

saying that if you showed up for the duel, that was the honorable part. And then usually they would like turn around and intentionally miss where they're shot or not even fire. No, both people would fire, but they would kind of intentionally miss or maybe not even intentionally. Maybe they just don't have good aim and then both people could breathe a sigh of relief being like, ah, we both missed. My understanding, which comes entirely from Hamilton the musical, is that most of the time

they would turn around and fire straight in the air. As like, we both showed up, you're a man, but like we're not going to kill each other. But, and that's what Hamilton did and then Aaron Burr shot him again. Aaron Burr shot him. He brought a gun to a gun fight. And Hamilton did not use his gun. Correct. So, so Aaron Burr's a bad guy.

Yeah. No honor. Honestly. Now I'm the villain in your history. But at the same time, you're just going to keep dropping Hamilton like you showed up for a fucking duel. If you choose not to shoot the guy that you're dueling against, that's on you. Yeah, protect yourself at all times.

But I think that's what happened the overwhelming majority of the time. Well, one time it doesn't. So the duel that my relative took place in was on a place called Bloody Island. So I got the river wrong. It's in the middle of the Mississippi River near St. Louis. And because there was like weird distinction of who actually owned that sand bar, because it was in the middle of the river, all duels took place there. It was like the place to do it.

International waters. Yeah. Yeah. Bloody Island. So did a bunch of people get shot there? No. Not this time. Just your grandfather.

No, my ancestor, they both died, but my ancestor outlived the other guy by three days. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. I would rather die fast in that situation. Yeah, but he won. Yeah, true. Actually, Dye, that's a good point. I feel like he lost.

Yeah, just three days of suffering. The other guy died immediately. But it also means that your grandfather had a better shot. It was my grandfather. This is like, oh, I know, sorry, your grandpa. Yeah, it's like my dad. Yeah. On August 26, 1831.

Like you're great, great, great. And probably not direct line descendants, just like. Once removed. Do you guys, you want, let's go around the room real quick. Do we, do you guys know if you're related to anybody famous, like even tangentially? Like, Billy's related to a guy that got shot by Andrew Jackson. Not Andrew Jackson. His party.

I've got, I've got some good ones. These are all, like, claimed by my uncle. who I guess did a lot of research into my family genealogy on my mom's side. He claims we were related to the strongest man in Nova Scotia back in the day who could lift up a baby cow of one hand. Hell yeah. Yeah. And then if you go way back, apparently John Quincy Adams and John Adams.

Okay. Yeah. The Nova Scotia guy sounds. I know. It'd be a lot fun to party with. Yeah. And that wasn't like as far back. That might just be my great, great, great-grandfather.

How many times do you think he was asked to just pick up a cow? If you show somebody you can do it one time, that becomes kind of your thing. Maybe they just have like a strongest man in Nova Scotia contest and like he won by being the only dude who could pick up the cow. I don't know. I mean, how heavy is a baby cow? How old are we talking about here? A baby cow. probably like a 300 pounds

well it says when a calf is first born it's just 65 to 90 pounds well that's not that much that's not that much so that shit is weak ass dog yeah so hopefully it was I think it was a regular cow it was a teenage cow he just invented the competition and he was the only one that competed and gave himself the prize his mom gave it to him so weird person Patrick Cotter O'Brien was the second of only 22 people in medical history to stand at a verified height of eight feet.

And that's your ancestor? Apparently. Is that just based off of the name? No, apparently this is something that started like in my grandparents' generation. So maybe they said, oh, we must be related because of name. Okay. So, but he was like in a traveling circus. And he was eight feet tall?

Yep. So do you, somewhere deep down inside, you're like, well, might not be done growing yet. That's why you're upset about reaching the age of 25 because once you hit 25, you know that the dream's over. Yeah. No one wants to be eight feet though. I think that's a rough life. Or maybe it's nine feet where it becomes really rough. Well, there's a whole conspiracy that there was giants that had been erased from our history that roamed the earth in like the Catholic, like the Catholic church and like even the mammoth bones we went looking for were actually giant bones and they're just trying to erase

this history of giants that lived across the world. Yeah. That like regular sized humans like just persecuted to death to extinction. You're being too tall? We eugenics them. Yeah. Arian if you were if you were eight feet tall

would you be like the best athlete of all time? No, you can't move. I was going to say I feel like that would hinder you tremendously. Stiff as fuck. That's you get You know, the laws of physics. The more mass you have, the more energy it takes the move. That's why all big things are slow.

Oh, shit. I guess I forgot about the laws of physics. Fucking Newton. If you were, if you were eight feet tall, okay, if you were seven feet tall, you're pretty good at basketball. I've shot a few with you. You'd probably be like a first ballot NBA Hall of Famer. I'd be nice. I don't know about Hall of Fame. I even never know how to skill set, you know what I mean?

Kind of shit I got into. I don't know, but I would be nice for sure. If I was seven feet tall... Would it be proportionally... Like, this is what I think about. A lot of people who are super tall, they're, like... You know when you click the corner of a picture and you can enlarge it? Yeah.

Like, very tall people are usually like that middle part that you just go up and it stretches. Whereas, like, if you had, like, area and you went to the top right corner and actually, like... You dragged it out so it stayed in proportion, that'd be pretty wild. If you could photoshop a body. Yeah. Because then I think you would actually maintain your speed if it was all proportional. I think you would maybe move faster in terms of just like your absolute speed, but the rate at which your body and joints would move would be slower at that size than they would.

Like Aaron would say, it would take more force and more energy. But if your muscle, if it's proportional and your muscle would increase. If you grow like two feet, then each step that you take is going to be like, like three or four regular steps. So you might end up being faster, just, you would look slower. Well, Usain Bolt was always slow to start, but his gait and his, you know, stride length would always carry him at the end of the race. If there was, if there was, no, you're talking about an anomaly, though.

You're not talking about the, the status quo. Status quo for tall people is it's harder to maintain that energy throughout that burst and that's why like traditionally 100 meter yard runners have always had quick like they were really short choppy steps

but you same boat kind of broke that mold it's not normal though he's the fastest human being that's ever lived you can probably safely say that I remember I remember watching

who was like this is some haters shit I think it was Maurice Green you know he's a legend right he was one at one time the world's fastest man But I think it was him

But they were asking him It was like And at Eustain Boa had already broke the world record He was like is he the best Is he the greatest to ever live? He's like let's not You know not yet You know let's not

I'm like This is not football or basketball Like he's literally It's it's mathematical He's the best to ever live Like it's just like a hater ass comment I was like no let's not give him that yet Like what do you mean bro?

He already beat your time Yeah all he has to do is run it one time And then he doesn't have to do shit For the rest of his career And you can actually say like We can prove this is the fastest human being. Go. I think most really tall people, though, are very prone to injuries

and are hurt, like, the majority of the time, back problems, feet problems. Aren't we Maddie? Make that right, Maddie. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You started saying to me last podcast. If you guys could change one thing,

like if you could give yourself one skill or one physical attribute that you don't currently have, it has to be something that other people possess. so you can't be like the ability to fly I'm saying if you could give yourself like one physical trait or ability that somebody else in the world has what would you want

just fast as shit how fast because like you can whose speed do you want it has to be like stolen from somebody like a monster I mean like you sang bold I guess yeah because like you can get stronger you can get faster

to a degree but not a lot yeah like you could get fast I bet you could get faster but not I mean nowhere near like that level yeah what would you do of that skill though like say if this is the skill that you would well you would get tomorrow right um it'd just be fucking sick to have just to be that I mean if you're picking I mean how many really are there yeah but what would you do don't know I don't know yeah like if you had that skill as a kid like you'd have a chance right actually go pro yeah right there's not many chances I mean, what physical trait can you assess, or assess, if you were that fast, you'd be the fastest in the world, so go run track.

Yeah, I guess. Like, what could you attain tomorrow that, like, you would do anything with, really? A gold medal. Yeah, you could definitely get on an NFL team. I think he's saying, yeah, I mean, I guess, sure. Yeah, you could be a, dude, you'd be a sick tight end if you were that fast. I mean, did you see the moves he put on Aryan? Yeah, just put them in a blizzard.

Yeah, with some speed. that route running dudes with combovers and sparries being my mentions talking about I mean you did get cooked you got cooked fucking ridiculous man dude he dipped that

he dipped that shoulder on you attack the ball with two hands turned up field all right I appreciate y'all for joining in this is the podcast no honestly that does rock that that's on camera

I would have what about you Aaron what would you want hands Uh, just, uh, hands are exquisite that, that rumor has also have combovers and sparries in my but, um, dog avatars, um, you said what? A lot of dog avatars too coming at you for those. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Uh, sunglasses in front seats. Um, uh, extreme apathy. And what I mean by that is, apathy early on, like, I cared so much what everybody thought, like, as a young athlete. Like,

I care what my coaches thought. I care what the fans thought. I cared. I care how I was perceived. I cared. You know what I said? It wasn't until later in my career. I was like,

fuck all this shit. Like, I think that amount of apathy would have pushed me to the point of like really being really great. Because I just, I put too much on like everybody else's like what they thought. And I valued it too much early on in my career. And really like,

I mean, it's something like I think that's given to you. It takes a long time to learn on your own. But like a lot of these kids, that's what the beauty of, you know, evolution is. A lot of these young athletes, they're kind of giving that because they see how we fucked up. And so they're kind of given that. It gives a fuck, you know? I love that.

That's something, yeah, it comes with age, too. It's natural to care what people think. You just have to learn that there's not a lot of benefit to it. And usually the only way is by like going through caring a lot, what other people think. I heard a great quote. I heard a great quote. And it was like, in my 20s, I cared what everybody thought about. me in my 30s I didn't care what anybody thought about me and they said in my 40s I realized

nobody was fucking thinking about me yeah yeah yep yep I would I would try to this is actually more of a mental attribute but I think it is still physical because like the brain is technically a muscle but intense that's not true whatever the brain's an organ yeah but that's physical okay you know what I mean you said the brain is technically a muscle and I just I had to say that your thing is the heart i know whatever it's an organ that gets shit done yeah part of the nervous system yeah correct um a definition of muscle is get shit done yeah yeah i think that's yeah bro science yeah sure um typically the brains of muscle they thought that was gonna slide uh no but intense pattern recognition and memory skills because those kind of go hand in hand because

then you'd be able to literally be more analytical and probably be a way better decision maker. And I think that is more useful at, you know, a post-athletic career than anything else. You could maybe like learn 10 languages because there are people out there that can speak like 10 languages fluently. That would be a pretty sweet scale. So I was thinking about the language thing actually earlier today because if you grow up in Europe, you're probably going to learn multiple languages because all these countries are close by and you do a lot of traveling across borders. And there are some elements of like a crossover where some of the languages are similar.

But people that grow up in Europe generally know, I would guess that it's probably like three languages. So I thought that, but, you know, imperialism, martial plan, they all just speak to each other in English. Yeah, but they still know their own native language too. So that's at least two. And then I'm sure there are a lot that picked up another. They know like a neighboring language or they have like a friend that lives in a different country. that they've practiced with. And so people talk about the United States

and it's like if you grew up in the United States, you only have one language that you know for the most part. You know English. That might be true, but also like we speak so many different dialects in the United States. Like if you can do a good southern accent, that's essentially like knowing Bulgarian

if you grow up in Greece. You know, like if you do, I can do a Canadian accent. I can do a British accent. I can do a British accent. I can fully understand Patty the Batty when a lot of like a lot of other people can. Yeah.

So we speak. actually multiple languages. You could maybe say that. I don't know if that argument's going to fly. I feel like it's different dialect. You try to spin zone America's ignorance. Because like all languages have a lot of dialects. Like I can do in an instant, I can take you to South Carolina.

I mean, that's pretty much what you're looking for. People in South Carolina speak a different language than people in Washington State. I mean, I can speak a little DMV. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Go for it. Yo, you want a glizzy? Okay, that was good.

Oh, wow. I barely nailed it. I can understand it. I can't speak it, though. Yeah, yeah. I know it when it's written. Oh, wow. Oh, wow.

You know, you want a glizzy. No, but there is different ways people you... You want to get some of that mumbos sauce on the glizzy? You're a Bama, for real. I mean, there's New York slang. Forget about it. Yeah, see? Like, Gabagool.

Give me... I can talk. Give me a bacon, egg and cheese, the Aki Way. With the Bev. I've never heard of the Aki Way. What's that? Oh, you're not on TikTok. All right.

I mean, I am. I guess I just don't scroll it too much. You're on TikTok in New York and you haven't seen the Aki Way? No. Oh, there is actually people. Well, you'll get it now because you'll see it in about three hours. What's the Akiware? It's listening to me.

So I don't know if the Aki Way is specific to this one guy or if that's a generalized term. but there's this guy at a bodega and I think it's in Brooklyn and people go in and they just order the craziest shit you've ever heard and then they're like I want it the Akiway and they just get like they're like hey let me get a cheese steak with flaming hot Cheetos and mozzarella sticks between two donuts and he does and he's like sure sure and then they he cooks all this crazy shit so and throws it all together for people Okay, so the Akiway is pretty much saying like put some stank on it. Yeah, all right, got it.

Rahim Mohammed, aka General Ock, is a Yemeni red hook bodega owner. And he's just like the coolest guy ever. It's kind of like pawn stars now where they filmed pawn stars for like one day a month and the line was eight hours long. Like he probably goes in there once a week now and people, I've seen the line out like for half a mile. I don't know. I don't know the genealogy of it, but Ack has been around since I was a kid from Cats

from New York. So that's what I figured. They've been saying Ack forever. I think somebody black just went in there. It was like, yo, Ack, let me get the, and that's probably how it started. But Ack has been around since I was young, you listening to like New York Cats. I didn't grow up with that, but like, it's like New York shit. I think I've seen this because it's his son or somebody that works with him that's like,

that's taping it sometimes. It's like videoing him, right? maybe I'm not sure I think I've seen this guy he just like he puts together awesome pieces of food yeah just crazy using what he's got in the in the store yeah yeah yeah yeah he'll give you like dian babies in a day I love it I love it um I can do Ohio you want me speak Ohio yes speak Ohio to me hand me some of that pop yeah boom yeah I'm starting I'm starting to get to the side of I'll slip in a soda everyone like I'll say soda instead of pop and that's really bad for my brand yeah when you go home is your mom like Madeline you've forgotten your roots yeah she slaps me across the face we say

pop in this house yeah pop I grew up where everything was coke like all of it all of this is coke that was wild what did you call a sprite coke do you say can I get a sprite coke mm-mm it was just coke what do people say that about the south but I never experienced that in the south wait Aaron just indulge me for a second this was in this is New Mexico or this with San Diego. This is New Mexico. All right, so I'm a server and a restaurant. What can I get you a drink? Well, if you're at

a restaurant, you have to be specific. You have to be specific. But, like, if you were just like, y'all have any Coke, and they're like, what kind? What kind of Coke do you want? Yeah. That's what you ask. Okay. The one that tastes like lemon lime? It's synonymous with soda.

So how you used to say soda, we used to say Coke. Interesting. There was, there's this New York Times dialect quiz that went around. These things always get really popular right around Thanksgiving because people go back to their families and then they all like take this quiz, these types of things together. It was, I think they asked you like 50 questions. I'm probably off about the number, but they ask you 50 questions about different words you use for different things. So, for example, if you, if you're driving down a road and there's a cement and grass island that separates. rates one side of the road from another side of the road. What do you call that thing? And so some people would say like median. There are other words for it. But it's got like 50 different versions of those types of questions. I think the Coke question is on there.

And then at the end of it, it tells you where your dialect is from. And it gives you like three options on it. So I did mine. And they put the town that I was born in as one of the options. The town I grew up in as the second option. and then the town in North Carolina that my mom was from as the third option.

It nails it like perfectly. It's crazy. Wow. Those things are like usually never accurate. No, that's impressive. This one was like perfect. I think if you look up New York Times

Regional Dialect. Mine always tells me from Omaha. Like. Oh, really? I think it's just generic Midwest. Yeah. Where I'm from, they call a roundabout a rotary. I don't know if you guys ever use that.

The rotary? Yeah. I don't think. so sneaky massachusetts has a lot of like i think it's one of the most english towns like closest to actual england in the entire united states you mean states a circle dinga is what we call it sometimes too like a circle dinger a lot of the no we don't actually call on a circle dinger i was hoping that you did that's awesome oh i can't check this out unless i'm subscribed in new york times yeah i think that the last 20 links i've tried to

on the New York Times you have to subscribe I'm off it pay for that bullshit I am intrigued to Big T is related to do you have any famous Confederate generals

in your bloodline or anything like that I think I recall I asked I texted my mom when you all were talking about this she says she doesn't remember this

but I'm pretty sure my grandma at one point said someone was related to Francis Nash which Nashville is named for he was a confederate general actually i don't know how distant or true that is but i recall hearing that name at one point francis nash yeah all right that's a cool name what about you erin

do you have any any famous relatives uh yeah um i don't never have to clear my throat until I do this goddamn podcast. But it's in my family. I don't have the papers. My dad has the paper somewhere, but somewhere along down the line, like my great, great, great, great, great, auntie is Harriet Tubman.

That's cool. That's awesome. It's very cool. Yeah. I actually brought it in my teacher didn't believe me. I was like in fourth grade and my teacher didn't believe me. And so I brought in a paper.

And she was like, oh, shit. When were we supposed to get her on the $20 bill? Instead, we got that son of a bitch that shot Billy's dad. By the way. He's woke. These woke fucking people want somebody on there that's a little darker. I want to correct something. He was in the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War.

Oh, so our team. All right. Oh, nice. Good. Our team. England. Yeah. Is there anybody out there that's against Harriet Tubman on the 20?

I'm sure there are plenty. Oh, yeah. How can you be against Harriet Tubman? I don't understand that. I don't, well, let me welcome you to America. No, my guess, my guess, and I've noticed. lot of this online. This is kind of how most discourse in the United States goes now.

I don't think anybody hates Harriet Tubman. I think that there are people that hate the people who are pushing for Harriet Tubman to be on the $20 bill. And so they just don't want her on there because people that they find annoying

really are pushing for this. Yeah. I think that's kind of you. But I think it's they view it as like erasing their history. Like that's, like I've heard these arguments don't know how many time like they just view it like sure she was cool or whatever but like why are you

taking one of ours away and putting one of yours that's what the argument is that's what it boils down to like and it's awful they're all full of shit because wasn't Andrew Jackson a dickhead anyways yeah all of them were all slave owners fuck them fuck them take them off the curve fuck them take the statute down but Andrew Jackson

was the he he loves slaves the most out of anyone on our money now that's a bold statement that's a bold statement That's a bold statement, but I, I don't know if that's true. He had, he had some, he had some side pieces, a lot of side pieces. Thomas Jefferson, too. Thomas Jefferson.

Yeah, he's thankfully not on our money though, right? He is. He's on the $2 bill. Oh, okay. He's on the nickel. Oh, yeah, he is on the $2 bill. I got one of my, I got two currencies. How the hell did Benjamin Franklin sneak on the dollars?

He was just super horny. He was a crafty motherfucker. I think Benjamin Franklin, he's got it better than anybody. He's on the 100. did he ever run for any office or did he was he content just like fucking in paris he was just an ambassador i think he was good being unelected and that therefore you're not accountable to anybody sitting down and like stealing other people's jokes and putting them in his almanac was he uh do you think he was a big influencer of politics in that day and age but like

he was the type of guy that like took a step back and like paid off politicians like you think he's like a george sorrows so back then i don't know i want to see a has a card style show about Benjamin Franklin or a Veepe style show. The thing is he's not attractive enough. That means that he was doing some crazy shit. I know, but like no one... He had an awesome personality.

Like if he was running around... Who was attractive back then? Billy, give me your top attractive guy back then. Yeah, who are the hottest... Billy, who are the hottest presidents to take office before 1860? Seeing Benjamin Franklin run around like a 1700s Europe and the U.S.

banging prostitutes, honestly, kind of like... like you I mean I can't I can't think of a president that was halfway opinion like Abraham Lincoln looks like a toll that's been in water too long he's really tall I think Abraham Lincoln probably has like Adam Driver thing going on no no where he's tall and he's so no ugly and unique looking that he's good looking we had this conversation he's got Pete Davidson energy yeah yes and it's because and then I said Abraham Lincoln's ugly and then Aaron was like what the fuck you mean he's

ugly. I was like, what? And you thought he wasn't ugly. Well, he was six, four. Now you're saying he was ugly. That's not true. I never said Abraham Lincoln wasn't ugly. Please pull that up. I'm having a series deja vu right now. He had a... I never said he wasn't ugly. I was probably just making fun of you because you said he was

appealing. He had a squeaky voice. Really high-pitched voice. I think Thomas Jefferson was a good looking guy. Yeah. By the way, y'all know I hate these things generally, but I did see one recently that was pretty good. The We're closer to 2050 than 1990, all that shit. But I saw Joe Biden was born closer to Abraham Lincoln's second inauguration than his own.

Whoa. That is wild. Which that was a good one. That is pretty crazy. I do have some great news. I think Harriet Tubbin is still coming on the 20, but she'll make her debut in 2030. Oh, okay. Yeah, they've been saying this for 10 years.

Yeah, I mean, I just don't see a good counter argument to putting hair at Tubman on a $20 bill. Like, why is this something that people are fighting? I think you need to look up Thomas Jefferson again, man. Not to derail, but I mean, you said I think Thomas Jefferson's good looking. I'm looking. I don't know, bro. Are you got a picture of him in his prime or when he's? I mean, I mean, give me prime Thomas Jefferson.

I'm definitely looking at the, uh, probably impotent time. Thomas Jefferson. I'm going to have to say it. George Washington actually I think is pretty god darn stunning. But he's got a square jaw. That's not how he looks. You slipped into a Texas exit. I would like to see him without the wig though. Like are there actually any like paintings of him not wearing the wig? I've never seen one. Because what if he like took off the wig and it was just I mean, look at this picture of Thomas Jefferson right here. He's a good looking guy. Yeah, they you know they were all kind of pasty back then so he's like your age in that probably yeah damn no no no it's mad dog saying like if you were 37 and looked like that in in 1791

you probably looked like you were 80 yeah the aging back then I think was a lot started shit you look at you look at 20 year olds in the 80s they look 40 that shit's wild yeah yeah you list's grant's wife had a lazy eye yeah that's interesting yeah that's interesting Yeah, not related, but everyone was always like, you're the president now. Maybe you're going to find a new wife? And he was like, no, she's my ride or die. Somebody should go back and like take all the, all the pictures and paintings and portraits of our old presidents and just like modernized.

Oh, yeah, look. And just put them in like an Ed Hardy shirt. Look. Oh, there we go. That's what George Washington would look like today. Like that you all your sense of the group. But he's old in that one. I want to see him.

I want to see him when he's like 25 and he's wearing like, I don't know, wearing a tank top and his barbed wire tattoo. that's what I want to see packing is in yeah George Washington mouth pillow yeah

oh wrong group oh that that'll be interesting which one is what was that what was that message you sent dog that's it was like on Friday what was that he said oh wrong group

oh billy sent it to the part of my take group again oh oh billy does this from time of time when he'll send very clearly a macro dosing subject to the part of my take group chat and everybody just ignores it because they're like oh that that's billy just being weird again no one even i guarantee you no one's even going to address this picture of uh modern day george washington um that you sent uh yes you know every every holiday that like weird text chain

goes around with all the emojis happy coctober yeah yeah exactly well someone made a january 6th one and i thought you guys would uh did you actually send it in the wrong group or did you just get embarrassed that you sent it period uh Friday yeah yeah I was just like no one thought this was funny wrong group no but you meant to send it to us originally yeah wrong audience you know once once it didn't hit I realized it was the wrong group to send to yeah um you can you can mentally box your way out of any paper this is so funny hell yeah I'm gonna I'm gonna read it out loud though just because I think it's funny this is Billy's group chat that he said It wasn't wrong. It was the wrong group.

What, you guys didn't find it funny? Wrong group. Okay, Friday, Friday afternoon. Guess what day it is? That's right. It's January 6th. Oh, my cock-loving conservatives, let me hear you moan. Yes, Daddy, Donald. Two years ago, a load of our brave brothers and brady stepsisters rode that Trump train all the way to the Capitol where they busted into protest, a rigged erection.

and defend our freedom to fuck insurrection more like insurrection fake news wants you to think it was a terrorist attack on democracy but the only terror was how hard are clit-licking liberators fuck send this to 20 of your sluttiest cock-sucking conservatives get back and you're just another throbbing member of congress get five back and your secret antifa agent get 15 back and you're a full-fledged true americans a cunt. Shit, sorry, wrong group. I did send it to a couple people. Yeah, it's funny. It's funny.

I sent it to my girlfriends. Yeah. It just gets put in group chats and it's hilarious. I love how you read that in your ad voice too. Yeah, I mean, it was a great that was a great text from Billy.

According to the peanut gallery online, Franklin Pierce was one of the hottest presidents. Our 14th president. Okay. Not a bad look for guy. What the hell? I didn't tell you anything about Franklin Pierce.

Yeah, he didn't have a great presidency. At one point I memorized all the presidents. James Madison. He was cute. He was short king. Yeah, but he's cute. Was he? He was cute like in a little brother way.

Yeah. He's like, you know, Franklin Pierce looks like, um, who cahs out in Utah, the senator from Utah? Mitt Romney. Romney, yeah, yeah, he looked like Romney, brad. Yeah, Franklin Pierce is a pretty good guy. Oh, you had Franklin Pierce made the KK. Is he the one who made the KKKK. illegal and allowed you to arrest

No, I'm pretty sure you made it like without trial KKK members could be immediately arrested and then they, wait, Franklin Pierce Okay, so tell you what This is an enlightening conversation Send us your hottest presence They have to be in office before 1850 though

I don't want any of these new good I don't want people see Richard Nixon in JFK is probably that's what everyone would be sending in JFK I think it's probably JFK and Barack if you're going just amongst all presidents

Yeah I mean definitely Obama Reagan was a pretty good looking guy in like a grandfather type of way He was an actor Yeah he's handsome He's handsome yes he was handsome In in term though

Because like a bunch of presidents Probably were like good looking back in the day I mean hill I mean let's talk about Like nominees Hillary Hillary Like we used to talk Hillary when she was younger

She was bad No who's that Hawaiian chick who never had ran for president. Tulsi. Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi's pretty cute. She's cute. Yeah.

She's, uh, yeah. She's got the Pepepele-Lupu skunk thing going on. Sarah Palin? That shit is fire. Yeah. I'm not what to Sarah. Sarah, not that cute. No, young Sarah Palin.

Yeah. Tulsi can get it. Yeah, Sarah Palin was very cute. If you had to choose a squad, squad up, you go out for a night with the boys on the town, but you have to pick three presidents that were in office, let's say before World War I. Oh, I'm, your dream squad This is my dream squad

Teddy Roosevelt Yeah Because he's a fire starter He's the one He's bringing the energy For the night He would also Probably not like going

To crowded bars He'd much rather Go out Into the middle of the woods Somewhere And just drink by a fire He would be great On a hunting trod

Yeah No but he would still Like Let's say take him He used to be a rabble rouser Back at Harvard When he was there Is this a dinner

Or like hitting the bars Night Is it more Is it more conversation or vibes? Vives. Okay. We're going to a club. Because obviously like Washington, Lincoln, like those are the guys you'd want to talk to.

Lincoln would be a creep. But if it's pure vibes like we're hitting down the hatch tonight, I need to know like what my squad is. That's different. He's too. I mean, love Lincoln, love a fan of his work, but I could totally imagine him being a total lurch, like a lurch in like a situation like that. Just too tall wearing a funny hat. Just like sort of. Some lurch.

like like are you a hey or you think he's going to pull all of them and no no no I think he's going to scare the hose I think he's going to scare the hose I think he's going to scare the hose no he's going to scare the hose no he's going to be he goes out with his top hat on he's going to be like walking around they're going to flock I mean you in 18 whatever ain't nobody tall you got the tallest motherfucker in the club they don't come flocking yeah yeah the low hang of fruit Abraham would would walk into a bar like mystery from the pickup artist with his giant top hat and his big features and just go up to your girl and be like oh my god do you see those two damsels fighting outside in the street and immediately start a conversation i think he'd take them both home i don't think you'd have any riz he wouldn't be able to handle himself smoothly and everyone be like yo who is this like who's that giant dude just for sure had riz yeah i mean jfk also t r jfk before world war one uh tr why you call him t r versus fDR I think I would go taft Has Riz

Taft would be Taft's the huge one right Yeah he's a fun guy Fat guy energy Yeah you gotta have a fat jolly guy Christ your energy Yeah None of these motherfuckers have rhythm

I'm just looking at them I'm just all stiff You get Taft in there You get I think Bill is right With Teddy Roosevelt You let us as Grant I was just gonna say that

If you could get him If you get him back on the bottle Yeah He would go He would be a liability though I think I think he was like

like one of the most genius generals the U.S. has ever had but if he had one drink that would turn it into like 40 drinks and he would just be on the floor just like speaking gibberish. Yeah.

I'm like, hey, hey, you listen. I think your wife's looking at me. No, that's just her eye. Her good eyes looking at me. Grant. Yeah, Grant, Teddy Roosevelt and Taft. Those are my three.

Yeah, like that. I do think, I mean, I do feel like Grant, though, was the type of drinker where like he doesn't have that like fun period of drinking he just goes straight from one drink to just being like belligerently drunk i think jefferson is a must that guy loved partying he did i mean he liked to party but he also founded uva and that's not a real fun party school well because they didn't adhere to the the lifestyle of its founder the core tenants yeah of him well i mean i i think he said that there will be no like freshman sophomore

junior, senior. I think he was like, Shelby first year, second year, third year, and fourth year, because no one is truly a senior in the field of knowledge. And it's not a campus, it's the grounds. The grounds of UVA, yeah. Is that the school where they have the problematic walls?

The walls, I don't know. You bet they say things on them, don't they? No, I think it's it, Virginia, hold please. There's walls at some college that are in a serpentine manner that supposedly had something

to do with slavery and like it's problematic that they're still there still there I never heard about that I just know that that the University of Virginia campus not called that features serpentine walls

which are originally meant to keep slaves from public view oh wow I don't know why those specific walls would do that more effectively than others but yeah that's they're getting canceled for their walls recently

They also wear shirts and ties to football games at UVA. It's like a lot of southern schools do. A lot of southern schools do when you're pledging a frat. Yeah, they do, I think, for all four years. It's the best seeing those fight videos in the student section with like a bunch of pledges in their suits. Just getting their ass beat by like some other dudes who are from a different school. But like it's like these guys in like a jean short cutoffs and tank tops just being the hell out of these freshmen in suits. It's some of the funniest fight videos

Plus they all can't fight Very funny James Buchanan drank two bottles of cognac Every other night But never appeared drunk or hungover Seems like a guy that can He's probably just drunk the whole time

Yeah True A functional alcoholic It is crazy how common that was Like even like Back in the day yeah Just being drunk all the time Yeah

I know like people drank a lot because you never knew if the water was clean, but the alcohol in booze would kill all the germs. So it was always like a safe thing to drink, too. Did they know that though? They knew that? I think they knew like, hey, you drink this, you'll be hung over,

but you're not going to die from dysentery. So the only reason why that sort of came out of style, like the madman stuff and the madman stuff in the 50s, was because of driving. It was like, once everyone started driving, it was like, oh, can't be drunk all the time. People keep crashing. this shit. That was literally like why

people like, okay, everyone's got to stop drinking. The cars weren't worth it. Like, I saw a picture from the 50s of a coffee machine, tea machine, whiskey machine, just in a break room. I love that. Like, people were literally drunk. They'd wake up and drink. That's probably why they all

looked like they were 80 years old when they turned 40. Yeah. But they lived. Cigarettes were like, cigarettes were like a huge thing back then to like, yeah. people just smoke like a motherfucker good old days all right well that's a good good conversation

about hot presidents I'm curious to see if anybody has any under the radar submissions for us but we got Donnie on here so I feel like we should talk about the mammoth excursion so do you guys want to just kind of take us back to the start on this

and tell us where you found out about the mammoths and how this whole thing unfolded sure so first all I got involved just when I got a text from Billy on January 2nd, who's got a boat in NYC? I need some help looking for mammoth bones in the East River. Long story, I'll explain later on the boat. And I hit them up because as someone who has swam across the East River, I did know someone who had a boat in New York. So I was like, I'm down, let's find those bones. I wanted to start off 2023 by doing something

exciting. I wanted to start off with a bang. I had a big 2022. I was worried 23 was going to really have a slow start and I was like, nope, this is how I kickstart it. And this was before I had listened to the Joe Rogan podcast. So I was like, I don't know what the fuck Billy is talking about, but it sounds fun to get back on a boat in the East River. Then I went back and listened to the podcast. If you want to talk a little about that. Yeah. So basically, there's this guy who digs her bones up in Alaska. He's a head of a huge mining company, but in his mining excursions,

he ends up finding a lot of prehistoric bones because the permafrost there is insane. It's a refrigerator for perfectly preserving even full mammoth bodies, woolly rhino bodies, cave lions, all sorts of the craziest stuff. Didn't they say somebody was doing an interview with the guy,

and they asked him if he would eat the old mammoth meat? And he said that, yes, he would, right? Yeah. Is there actually meat that's preserved on these guys? Yeah, he said he ate some of it. That's disgusting. I mean, I would eat it. A 10,000-year-old to say you ate mammoth?

Dry-aged. I'm sure, like, yeah, a lot of steaks are aged for months. Yeah. And they become a lot tastier. I guess so, but that's not 10,000 years. No. In like a peat bog. Yeah, I mean, I would try it just to tell people I've tried it,

But I doubt it tasted that good. Yeah. But basically this guy, this guy's company that he bought up in Alaska had at one point sent tons of bones. 50 tons of bones to the American National History Museum based in New York, which used to have Teddy Roosevelt as a statue outside, but does not anymore. But back in the 40s or 30s, they dumped 50 tons of bones in the East River. Right off of 65th Street. So I thought we would just be blindly looking, but yeah, he says he has like proof. Yeah, it was some sort of document written that said they dumped them right off of 65th Street into the East River.

Don't ask me why. Maybe they didn't have room. Right at where Rockefeller University is now. That used to be a hospital and they used to dump a lot of hospital waste in the East River. So I was thinking about that a little. We did find what looked like a medicine bottle. Yes. That was very unique.

Yeah. Well, we'll have to get to that part. Yeah, so it turned out my guy who had a boat, it's like it's, he took it out of the water until March. So then it went cold. We did not have a boat. And we started to see some other people who had listened to the Joe Rogan podcast and were actually out there with underwater drones, surveying equipment. They had started to look. And so I was like, we need to get out there fast.

That's when in the Daily Mail or something, there was an article that was titled Tuss Rusk Begins. Tusk Rush begins. Discovery Star Dirty Water Don leads divers in search of 50,000 mammoth bones worth up to one billion in NYC's East River. And warns, someone will get killed as others dredge the waters with boats and cameras. At first, I tweeted and I was like, hey, the dirty water Don's trying to scare off the wonton Don so he doesn't find mammoth bones first. going to work i am dirty water um but then as we kept on trying to find boats we had some people who were going to take us out but then like another youtube scuba jake who has like 13 million subscribers we got cucked by scuba yeah we got cocked they're like yeah we're going to take out

scuba jake instead of you guys so i decided to hide my pride and breach out to dirty water don and lo and behold his older brother was like a huge barstool fan he was like yeah we'll take you on a bone rush. And I was like, can we go this weekend? And he said, no problem. He then did ask, like, is there any way that Barstool would be able to sponsor the fuel? Because, like, these trips can get pretty pricey. And I didn't want to reach right back out to Barstool after they just sent me to the World Cup.

But thankfully, our patron saint over here, PFT, was willing to sponsor the fuel costs just to get some more followers on Instagram. Yeah, yeah. So I sent the guy some money. I think he took me to the cleaners on this one, though. I don't know much about how much fuel costs for a boat. I've gone on several boats before, mostly recreational, doing things like wake surfing. And if the price he quoted me is true, I would be very shocked. I didn't want to hassle.

I know that he had you guys, like, your safety was in his hands. Yeah. So I wasn't about to like nickel and dime him on this thing. but at the same time this could be I think he just I think he just completely bent me over barrel in this negotiation process I mean we did use a lot of fuel

how long were you out there for we were out there we left around 730 and we were out there till three or something we also had to go from a dock in New Jersey yeah we left from like North Jersey was it a big a big boat so he brought out

another boat for us too yeah so now I'm paying for two boats so yeah well we just chipped in like he said you just had to pay a thousand towards the fuel and then he had paid 1,500 for a second boat and he was like if you guys can help out with that because the boats also had to come from their dogs yeah a thousand sounds like a lot of money of that's a lot of fuel also they had to run the machines using gasoline that pumped down all the air yeah down to us i did not agree to sponsor billy's air i agreed to sponsor the fuel.

Yes. But that's fine. It's whatever. I ended up paying a little bit more. For my little bit of research, I mean, it costs like, you know, $325 per excursion, depending on the kind of boat. How much did you, how much did you fork over? So I paid $1,000 for the fuel.

And then there were some like other extras that they were hoping to get somewhat reimbursed for. So I ended up paying $1,500. I paid $1,500 for to sponsor this trap. Thank you, PFT. What's that smirk? Big T. What's that smirk? You're smirking.

Just must be nice to have that level of disposable income. It was, I was using my money to further my Instagram account. It's a business expense. The flag is still flying. It's definitely a right off, Big T. It's definitely right off. Also, that must be nice too. The flag, I think, made the flag they took pictures of our boats.

I think it definitely was shown. I think on the day, not the daily man. Was it the daily mail? I don't know. I do know they're going to keep that flag on the boat for a while. Yeah. So it's on there for the whole time. Okay.

So you got something. Hey, we had a lot of people watching us. So tons of eyeballs. And you get a video coming out. Yes. And we do. Yep, we do have a vid coming out end of this week or next week. So he was willing to take us out and he had to leave from North Jersey.

So Billy invited me to crash on his couch the night before. I do have a friend. who lives in Hoboken, like where I've crashed before, but I was like, ah, a couch is a couch. It's either a couch of my friends house or a couch at Billy's, at least at Billy's will be able to wake up and just go. I had never been to Billy's apartment before. Yeah. What was your initial reaction walking in the door? Dog smells. What is? It smells like his dog, but I love his dog. We're surprised that like the first thing that you see is hedgehog. No, I, I reorganized. Okay.

He reorganized, so I did not see the hedgehog. I just was like, all right, it smells like a dog, but your dog's chill. So I don't really mind. I can adapt to that. And we go to bed because we had to wake up at like 5.30 a.m. He, I know he's talked about having a pet hedgehog on various podcasts. I had forgotten about that. And then I get to sleep and I wake up a half hour later with just like the loudest sound ever,

just like and I was like holy shit are we being like attacked by rats right now I thought his apartment was just swarming with rats and then it kept on going and going and I like turned on my flashlight and I found the pet hedgehog and he was just on his wheel just hammering a wheel workout all night and I should have just like realized I can just like take the wheel out of his cage but I told him to shut up and he stopped so I went back to bed an hour later starts the wheel again, went back to bed again. He starts hammering it for the third time, and I was like, I'm going to get zero sleep. So I just removed the wheel, finally got maybe three hours of sleep. But yeah, I was, well, I had like a pet mouse in college, and we ended up having

to give it away because of that same problem. They're just nocturnal animals. They love running wheels at night. Yeah. So we wake up, we go, we get on the boat, and yeah, we head all the way down the Harlem River to East 65th. Now, I kind of thought for the vid, we would just be documenting some other people dive. Yeah. And we had wetsuits, so we were going to get in and swim. Yeah, we were just going to fuck around for the cameras and go looking for the bones. And if we're diving, and at some parts of the river, there's a shelf.

And I looked up, like, before we went, I kind of looked up where the old shoreline used to be, realistically when they dumped the bones the FDR drive hadn't been built yet so even though we went looking in the river I kind of had a feeling that the bones were under all the fill-in for the FDR drive if they are there still if they didn't get swept away by many of the hurricanes or tidal waters you know that happened and if then they would probably be closer to the middle of the channel so I knew that we like I looked at the structure of the shoreline I saw that there was a 20 feet depth right against the side of the river like that walkway that east east side river walkway so I wasn't too concerned I I free dived extensively like down to like close to 30 to 40 feet so 20 feet was

nothing so we got diving gear and we were just going to free dive down there and with gopros on for the video. But Dirty Water Don had another plan for us. Yeah, so Dirty Water Don's the star of sewer divers on the Discovery Channel. And he brought his whole crew out and they have these dive helmets. So it's not like scuba gear. It's a helmet that has surface supplied air. So you dive down wearing this helmet and then there's a tube that's attached to the surface.

Umbilical cord. Yeah. The closest thing I'd compare to is you guys remember those old fashioned. dive suits with like the freaking cyclops type look it was kind of like that exactly like that so were you were you concerned at all about like other boats

coming by as you were under the water the fact that you'd never dive before like that it seems like I was very worried I was very scared that something bad was going to happen yeah I was concerned that this suit and this helmet that Billy had to put on and Donnie I didn't see the video of you putting it on but I saw them

like locking Billy into place and all I could think about is like they're putting Billy in a coffin for his head right now. Yeah, it was pretty creepy, especially right when first we pulled up to Manhattan and like three cop boats show up and say like you're not allowed to tie up to Manhattan. So then we had to go further out and tie up to a barge. And they were like, yeah, it's like 60 to 70 feet right below the boat right here.

And so you're just having to have to climb down the ladder and like drop. Yeah. They had one, yeah. This is the scariest part. So from my plans, I was like, okay, 20 feet, we can do this. But then the cops made us move. And then it was like, okay, 20 feet. Then you drop off the shelf into the trench.

And the trench is 70 feet deep. And even though at the time I was getting like pretty nervous, I was like, but you know what? This can be a great story. And if those bones are down there, they're absolutely going to be in the fucking trench. Like the trench is the place where these bones are going to be. We were saying it was like the place in the Lion King where the light doesn't touch where all the elephant bones were. The elephant graveyard. Yeah, the elephant graveyard.

And so it was like at that moment, they kept talking about how a lot of guys, so they were, their trade before the Discovery Channel was a lot of dock building, line laying, and just basically a lot of the union work that occurs on the bottom New York Harbor. So like building bridges, supplying power lines to different draw bridges, all sorts of stuff, building docks. So they said that it's a very high-paying job I think up to some jobs A lot of these guys were also offshore Oil welders Which they're saying you can get paid

They're the highest paid people in the job Like you're getting paid like $300 an hour On offshore rigs But these guys like they're saying like It's a very dangerous job So it's a very fought for job And the thing is they said that Most guys can't get off the ladder

They like don't they're just they freak out they have the helmet on you have a lead vest on so it's not swimming it's very different to scuba diving because they said it was more like skydiving because what happens is you're on the ladder and you have a 30 pound helmet on you have a tank an emergency tank on in case your umbilical cord gets sliced uh you have a lead vest just to make sure you sink to the bottom into combat current which we'll get to later so once you let go of that ladder you're going right to the bottom and for a lot of guys uh who are apprentices like they they can't breathe right they freak out and they just say get me out of here get me out they they get claustrophobic and they freak out so

i was like before i put the helmet i was like holy shit like this is intense and the thing is the current was moving so crazy and they're like look whatever you do don't take the helmet off because even if the helmet fills up with water, it'll be easier to revive you if you pass out. If you're in the helmet. Yeah. Why is that? I don't know. I have no idea.

I don't know. I really know that our training consisted of them telling us, there's two rules. Keep breathing and don't take the helmet off. And that was it. When you were at the edge of the ladder, what went through your head when you determined to just jump off? Was your body telling you like, do not let go of this ladder?

Oh, well, with a little, uh, liquid courage. They put down a rope. Wait, you got drunk before you went just diving into the bottom of the stripper? He did take a swig of whiskey. So there was a line. They like anchored a line at the bottom. So we had a piece of rope that we could follow to the bottom. And if we had let go of that rope, the current was so strong.

It would have just like taken you like far down. But you're still attached to the boat by the embanked. cord so they would just have to pull you up by the cord um but i mean you he went down first like i was shocked like you were obviously terrified at first when you heard we were going down 70 feet but then when he broke out the suits you were like i got dibs going first i just so when you hit the bottom you you just jumped 70 feet through water with a way to vest on it kind of had to there was the thing is you're fighting the current too so you had to really climb down with the rope okay holding onto the rope so

you couldn't see it was really what basically I put the helmet on and I've always wanted to breathe underwater it's been a dream of mine uh-huh since I was like I I used to be a frog I was a very good swimmer back in the day until I thought swimming was wasn't as cool as basketball and that was a huge like my best sport was probably swimming I should have kept swimming throughout like high school and college and maybe I'd be in the Olympics but that's a big but like you know you're a kid and you're dumb and you're like oh man like basketball like I like playing basketball like I like playing basketball more like swimming's kind of weird my friends are going to make fun of me if i'm wearing a speedo all the time like you know when you're in fifth sixth grade you know you're not really thinking

the best about long term but i should have swam and i always like i loved being underwater it was something that was always fun to me it was like a whole different world um and i always wanted to breathe underwater that was something that was always a dream of mine and i never really got an opportunity to ever go scuba but i just finally after like getting over all the fear i was like holy shit like i've always wanted to breathe underwater and i want to be able to breathe underwater here like hang out because i used to like i used to like lifeguards used to get pissed in me because i literally used to dive to the bottom of the pool and just kind of chill out on the bottom and just like like literally put my hands behind my head and like like almost take a nap at the bottom of the pool

you were hoping that windy peppercorn was going to come down there and scoop you up no i just thought it was so cool to be down there. It was so peaceful. It was like, and I used to be able to hold my breath for a very long time. Like, I used to joke about this. Then I beat you. We used to joke about this. Did you remember that? Oh, yeah, I beat Billy. And then ruined my week. On land. Yeah, that's actually, that's what started Billy with the whole deleting the episode thing. He was so upset that I beat him in a breath holding contest. Oh, shit. Anyway, like, we joke about this, but I literally used to try to do the underwater Navy SEAL training and like swim 50 meters underwater in a swimming pool. I did it once. So this was like, I was like, man, this is going to be

really cool. And also, I always wanted to be like, you know, dinosaurs, prehistoric creatures were always fascinating to me. So we were just combining all this super cool stuff. Like, I have like encyclopedias of prehistoric animals. I was reading the night before just like, this was going to be so cool, like Smilodon. Like we, like there wasn't only mammoth bones down there. We might have found like a Smilodon skull, which is a saber-toothed tire. Like we might have found like really cool shit down there. So I was like, dead body.

Yeah. More likely probably. So anyway, got the thing on. I was like, okay, how's this breathing? And the thing is you can't hear anybody except the radio when you first put the helmet on. So you had all these people giving you directions. And I knew there was this one thing that if you really in trouble of water was gushing into your helmet, you hit it.

And then it just streams tons of air into your helmet and pushes out. all the water um so once i realized i could breathe and honestly i think an advantage was because i can't really breathe out of my nose uh i'm able to bring in air through my mouth on a mouth breather which it's harder to get the oxygen into the helmet uh if you're just breathing regularly but if you're like if you really have to like bring in air that's when it starts to come in so i actually felt pretty comfortable with the helmet on i wasn't too uh claustrophobic when they put it on. But I couldn't hear what the guy was saying.

And I was trying to make sure, like, in the video, he sees like, oh, yeah, click this together. And it was literally the air tube that, like, this is what connects, like, your umbilical cord air to your helmet. And I was like, he was like, oh, just click that. And I was like, can you just check this and make sure? Yeah, I'll let you do that for me. Can you just make that connected?

Yeah. But then I basically got to the edge. And I was like, breathing. And then I got in the water and then I remembered, oh, shit, the water is 40 degrees. Yeah. Because I totally forgot about the coldness part of it. But they also had a tube, a hose that just pumped hot water into your wetsuit. So once I got that in, I was like, okay, this is easy.

But then going down, like, you know, in football, when you get hit and your face mask goes like a little bit to the left. For some reason, when I was going down, my helmet was pushing to the left. And so I started going down. I had the sea monster in my ear who was, I'd say the head of the operation. The diving operation, shout out Sea Monster, Nick. He was in the radio and he was just guys through like, how you feel and how you breathe? I was like, I feel good. I'm heading down.

He's like, okay. So I basically was like, wow, I have to now climb. The current was gushing. It wasn't that bad at the surface, but the current was gushing. And basically I had to climb 70 feet down a rope to the bottom of the trench. So I couldn't see more than 12 inches in front of me. And I just started climbing slowly, grass. by grasp down into the abyss. And honestly, it wasn't that scary because you couldn't see

anything. And it was almost like you were doing something. And having someone on the radio on your ear was very comforting. Was it a little bit peaceful down there? Yeah. It was very peaceful once I got to the bottom and just kind of chilled out. So that's what he said when he got to the bottom because I could hear this whole thing. He was like, it's pretty chill down here. Didn't you freak out? Well, not like freak out but I thought I heard a clip of Billy on a radio being like I'm at the bottom of these fucking river. At first he's like

holy fucking shit I'm breathing underwater and then when he got to the bottom he's like I'm at the bottom of the he's fucking river so what's I got down there you see fish? I didn't see shit I just I had to just decompress my ears the whole time yeah and that

was the weirdest thing like your ears just being like because you didn't realize how low you're getting until your ears start hurting you're like fucking you're like have to push this button to like put this like weird piece into your nose and blow and then once you got decompressed it got to the bottom so i finally got to the bottom i was like it was pretty tiring yeah i don't know like yeah it was a workout and if and then once you got to the bottom there was some serious undercurrent in this trench yeah because all i guess the cold water sinks down into the trench just gushes so like you could hear it and you're getting thrown around each which way at one point i was holding onto the

rope like sideways like my feet were you know like i was like a i was like a flag on a flagpole yeah and it was like i couldn't i wouldn't let go of the rope with my two hands and i was like looking at the bottom um but i was just like i could touch with my feet and i just started feeling around and i was down there and it was it felt like you were in like a storm and just getting thrown around with the wind and I was just like yeah you know I can't really see anything down here there's no bones in my general vicinity and I'm not leaving this fucking rope uh so I did it I'm down here I think at one point I was like I don't give a fuck about these bones like yeah I need get back to the surface yeah somethings are bigger than bones yeah I mean it was we were down there like

looking but didn't really like i don't know like donnie had i think it was very different once you get back up got back up very disorienting where you were when you because you keep thinking you hit the service because the the light coming from your flashlight is hitting bubbles and you think that that's the surface so like climbing back up uh it was just being on the bottom was like being on a different planet like you know when you look at like mars rover photos or like photos from different planets where it's like the still photo it kind of felt like that it was like there was just nothing and like there was just debris in your face and yeah unfortunately do not find any bones well you'll you'll have to watch the video to find out oh actually

yeah yeah you'll have to watch the video to find out it's it's scary to me it seems just like the most terrifying thing ever yeah i i dove after billy And I was having trouble decompressing my ears. So, like, as I went deeper, my ears just hurt more and more. And I ended up just having to, like, slam the helmet against my nose and blow really hard and start swallowing. And eventually that cleared my ears so I could go deeper. And, like, it probably took me, like, four minutes to finally get to the bottom.

And then I got to the bottom. And then they were like, all right, we should probably pull you up. But I did bring up a few rocks from the bottom. Nice. Just to prove I made it down there. What did it feel like? What did the bed of the river? Was it like really mushy? Was it firm? It was rocky where we where we were. Okay. And then when I came up, I had a nose bleed just from like slamming the helmet against my nose. And everyone was like, oh, did you have a fun night last night? Like, and I was like, no. It was it was very interesting. Actually, what scared me the most was one of the professional divers was down before us and was like, he came up. He was like, yo, it's rough.

down there. I was like, what? Yeah. They're going to keep on searching. Yeah, so there were a bunch of like drones, a bunch of underwater drones that were out there while you guys were diving, or was that before? It was before just, I think the drone was to set the trench and test the depth

in just a topography of it. But it was wild. I don't think anyone's finding those bones. Sadly not. I mean, 1940s, that's a long time ago. If it's as rough as you say, down there. Chances are that they've been swept

away. Yeah. I think they definitely and how much you think a mammoth skull would weigh? I would imagine that would be probably the heaviest part. Yeah. So probably I don't know, 30 pounds? The thing is back 40 pounds? It was reported back in the 50s there were bones found washed

up down, downriver I think around far Rockway and Coney Island area. I'm glad you guys are safe. Yeah. Although imagine how many views it would have and Donnie, if Billy had died. Actually, watch the video.

We discussed that. Yeah. We made some final remarks. We also, I was going to have a final meal of a part by cheese steak, but they wouldn't deliver to the boat. Well, yeah, so we had them deliver to the shore. And then we're like, yeah, we'll just go and pick them up afterwards and pretty sure someone stole them.

That sucks if they took your last meal. Yeah. I will say, I would love to use those helmets again in water that you can actually see it. You know where actually I think would be the best place to do it That is some of the clearest water With some of the coolest stuff Lake Superior

Yeah So have you been to the great Lake Superior gets really deep, right? Yeah, it gets really deep, really clear Go find the Edmund Fitzgerald Yeah Like go dive on a ship But that would be cool Because those apparatuses, I feel very confident

In using them again Yeah, we used them in some of like the most worst conditions. Yeah, the worst conditions possible. This is where it gets actually dangerous now. It's like Billy's now confident to go diving. Like it was great that you were

scared as fuck the first time because it probably kept you safe and you didn't take too many chances. Now that you're like, oh, I got this. That's simple. This is like when a big man on your basketball team hits a three in the first quarter and you're like, fuck, he's going to take four more. Yes.

Exactly. I think we lost Aaron. Is he still there? Arean, are you there? Time out. Hold on. Is he texting us? He said our internet went out. I mean, yeah, you couldn't find worse conditions than that. Like, you're getting just rocked by the current. You can't see anything and the water is freezing.

I, oh, shit, I'm sorry. No, you're totally fine. but yeah pft in the final video I'll make sure your Instagram is tagged all over thank you I appreciate that

I want to just make sure that my investment pays out I was hey wow this is big news going on right now Hamlin has been released and returned to Buffalo he has flown out from Cincinnati today

and has landed in Buffalo that's crazy that he's out of the hospital They confirmed that he's doing well. He's now at the next phase of his recovery. He had been walking up the unit, tolerating a regular diet. He's neurologically intact. And he's transferred to the facility in Buffalo directly from ICU. He was, however, considered in good condition by the doctors when the transfer took place

and did not get moved into another unit at UC medical. Yeah, how long does it take to That's like if it's a heart attack That's actually kind of normal Because he doesn't have any actual Like physical issues with the body, right? That's what we were talking about If they can get, if they can restore a heartbeat

Then it's just left up to your body To regulate your heartbeat again We're like If you shock it back in the rhythm We were talking about if you Like when he woke up, what hurt? Yeah, we'll have to do it again In waters where we can see

And we're not hanging on to a rope for dear life yeah how long did it take you to climb your way back up the rope that was a little trickier because i would assume that if you're climbing up 70 feet of rope going as there's a current pushing you down at some point you're like it's got to be like the next step it's got to be i have to be pretty much there by now right yeah and the thing was this was pretty we should have had dive watches on so you didn't know how how far down you were yeah we just knew how much rope we had been given and how much rope they were pulling up. Yeah, so I would go down five minutes and be like, give me five feet and then ask for more slack.

They would give me like another five feet of slack. I would ask for more slack and then keep on going down as I'm clearing my ears. But then on the way up, I actually thought the way up was way easier than the way down. I just sort of climbed, climbed up. I mean, it was... You're just going home. Yeah. I mean, when you're wearing that helmet outside of the water, it's so heavy.

Like, my neck still to this day is extremely sore just from... Are there any, like, certifications or regulations that you guys were supposed to do that you just didn't do? Well, to get, like, your underwater welding license. Right. But I guess there's no, there's no regulatory process for who can put on the dive shoot and jumping from... I guess someone on the boat, he's like, well, I'm a dive instructor. So I guess, like, I have the authority to say, you guys are good to go. Okay.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you guys have balls. What can I say that? I probably would not have done any of that. So congratulations. I'm glad that you guys aren't dead, although it would have been awesome for your YouTube numbers, Donnie. And for my Instagram account. Yeah. If Billy died, I probably would have gotten like 25, 30,000 more followers out of the deal. And before he went down, he actually gave me verbal permission to vlog his death. Okay. I said that the death, like you couldn't show the death on his channel, but I said, on PMTV, it had been okay to show the death. Billy's dead body. Yeah. I'm glad you guys are back and that you're safe. I'm glad I'm, yeah. And thank you, PFT.

I know, like, you didn't have to do that. Yeah, thank you, PFT. And I'm sorry that we made you assume risk that we didn't really know in the beginning. Oh, yeah. I had no idea that this was going to be that I was paying for maybe Billy's death. I thought we, which I was happy to do. You were paying for the fuel. You were not covering the dive costs.

I bought goggles because I thought we were just going to free dive around and the East River and like you know just fuck around and dive on the 20 foot but then we basically we had the opportunity and if we didn't do it I mean we were like big tea would have called you a pussy yeah it was it was a lifetime opportunity to literally go to another planet I think that was like the the closest thing I can compare it to dirty water Don shout out sewer sewer divers 9 p.m. on Sundays what is sewer divers that's what that's their show I think a lot of times they're like diving in actual rivers of shit could you um I can think of a few better places to go diving off the top of my head than in sewers.

Why are they going in sewers? Fine stuff. No, no, no. I think they have to for work. Like, you know, sometimes they like need a diver in a sewer to fix a, dude, don't ask me. It says, all right, America's sewer system is centuries old and in need of constant repair. Sewer divers is a down and dirty, up close look at the rugged blue collar heroes that keep these systems running. so the rest of us can stay out of the muck and mire.

So yeah, they have to go into the poop to repair the pipes. Yeah, I mean, I guess you don't think about that, but somebody does need to do it. Dirty job, someone's got to do it. What do you think they find down there? And actually, tons of guns. A lot of shit. We talked to them extensively and check out the video of like what type of stuff they find. A lot of guns, a lot of cars.

yeah there was a pickup truck at the bottom of the east river that they dove on very close to where we were where the bones were supposed to be so they dove on different places uh but yeah guns sometimes human remains but they just stopped calling them in in the new york harbork because the cops won't show up till like three days later hmm why well because they got a lot of things to do i've watched the wire it seems like if you find a body that's super composed, no detective wants to have that because then their clearance rate goes down. And they've got more cases

they have to investigate. That's all purely based on me watching the wire. Plus, if you find bones, that might be from like the 80s or like 70s. Like how many people are still looking for them? Yeah. It's sad, but I mean... Looking at how much subscribers

Scooba Jake has makes me kind of regret that I didn't start like a diving YouTube channel. Should we just start diving places? I mean... If it's like a sure fire way to get like a million views per video Because he just like dives random places around the US And it's like look what I found

I've started to watch some some diving videos Some cave diving videos Oh that's fuck those are so scary Yeah Because in these caves you always pass a sign That has like the grim reaper on it That says do not go any further You will most likely die pretty much

And then you see them swimming past this sign And then coming back Spalunkers are the ones who go climbing into caves. Yeah. I mean, I get pretty claustrophobic. And sometimes, like, the idea of literally being in, like, an enclosed space underground, like, freaks me out. Yeah.

Like, there's a story of a guy who went into a cave and he was, like, going down through this crevice. Because he thought there was a bigger cavern on the other side. And he just got stuck and they couldn't get him out. And they tried for three days. Yeah. And he just died there. I remember that, and he died because he was stuck upside down. Yeah.

And then just fluid from his body started to fill his chest cavity in his head. And it was like the worst way. And they heard him die and they couldn't pull him out. Yeah, that's pretty bad. That's like fucked. Like crawling into small spaces, no, open water, totally downless. The founder of Nike, I think his son died in a scuba diving accident. Damn.

There's just, there's no reason to go cave diving. I don't see the allure in it. I watch the video sometimes because I'm like just fascinated by what you have to do to accomplish these things. But it just seems like so. I don't understand is there a moment where you get down in the cave and you experience this like transcendental like moment of awe where you're looking around and everything's great? The only are you just doing it because it's so dangerous and you're an adrenaline junkie? Actually the one cave that I would freaking go. There's a cave in this like the the Pyrenees region of.

France that has some of the oldest cave drawings. You can look it up. It's like it's a really cool cave. And in the cave they like once they dove the cave and figured out that like past certain tunnels that were flooded, uh, like once the water went down at one point during a drought, they could make it through and they found basically like an untouched cave community where like prehistoric man lived and there was cave paintings. It's like where they found like the really famous cave paintings.

that were like some of the oldest. And literally they saw children's footprints in the sand untouched. And that would be worth diving to find. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. But if you're just diving in a random cave system off the coast to somewhere, that just has no chance of any sort of, like, anything to be found in there. No, thanks. It would also be worth diving to save Thai children.

Yes. Yeah. But we'll leave that to the professionals. I'm not going to send it me and Billy to save those kids The Thai soccer team They got all those kids out right Yeah

Every single one Not thanks to Elon Not thanks to Elon No He's like I've got a submarine Can I send it? No thank you Elon It doesn't fit through our cave

Yeah And then he just straight up Started calling the guy a Pito Yep When you said Let the professionals Feel that for a second I thought you say

Let the pedophiles deal with it No you don't want to That's a bad Bad combination all right well thank you guys for for going thank you guys for your service we should do some more adventures yeah i'm game there's a lot more invent i like people talk about how there's no adventure to be found in the world today and uh there's a quote that i kind of like it's like a born too late to discover new lands and born too early to to explore the universe and i think there's a lot more

to be explored nowadays yeah i mean there's like a stat only 10% of the ocean has been explored something like that is this how James Cameron started it might be you just found love with water do you guys have the

I love the water I do I am in love of water I think with James Cameron he became like a multi multi-millionaire yeah he was like all right now I have time for a really cool hobby he's definitely jerked off in his submarine

at the bottom of the ocean oh yeah oh yeah Erin Aaron, have you seen How many times have you seen the Avatar too now? Only like three, man. I've had like a busy last month this little.

Only three, and all obviously all in the theater. So three trips to the theater. For three hours at a time. That's right. That's right. Must be nice. How many times have you seen Top Gun? I saw that.

I think it was like five or six time. Which one's better? it's top guns better wow what the fuck what i was going to say i'll even take the pause wow i was like guns better this is it's a better uh obviously i love avatar um i don't think avatar's bad but i think i was just really disappointed in the plot um but i still love the franchise i love award shit like but like saving a a nigger DNA just to bring him back to the hunt Jake is just kind of mad they could have found

like another creative way to make a villain I actually forgot about the graphics are amazing yeah I made a bunch of notes when I saw avatar because I didn't see when we talked about it uh did you guys get that there was a little JFK complex going on with Jake Selly's kids what do you mean uh there was Joe Kennedy who was Jake Sully And then there was Joe Kennedy, Jr., who was the oldest brother, who dies. Okay. And then there was the second brother who had to fulfill. I did not, no, I did not pick up on the Kennedy Williams.

Nope. I mean, what else? I need more. You just named a family that happened to have three brothers. Well, more of the younger brother having to step in where the older brother was assumed. It could also be a bush, right? Yeah. He didn't, though.

He didn't have to step into anything. He kept, he's the guy, he got his older brother killed because he kept fucking up. More the favorite son dying. Okay. That, and also. Also, spoil alert for how people haven't seen it. This is motherfucker here. Well, if you've seen it, if you haven't seen it by now, then, like, it's the hottest movie.

That's the, that's the, that's the point of spoiler. Also, what's, what's, what's the policy with them, like, rip, like, ripping Polynesian culture? What do you mean? like is that okay the Navi is ripping Polynesian culture no no like the new water tribe yeah the new water tribe like a lot of it is I think that's the only one that hasn't been

tapped it's just one of the only cultures that ain't been got no no Polynesian culture has been got bad that they'd like you know like Tiki bars all over the US I mean that was all hijacked from Polynesia by this guy named Don the Beachcomer he was the one who appropriated

Polynesian culture and brought it to the U.S. because he was like, this is awesome. And he started the Tiki bar and like Tiki culture in the U.S. Don the Beachcomber did. He's one of my heroes. He actually is my hero. He legally changed his name to Don Beach and started a chain of Polynesian restaurants.

And they became like huge in Hollywood. Like he may have invented the Crab Rangoon for all I know. Is the beachcomer like on the south shore that like bar crawl? Is that started by Don the beach carmer? No, but like Don's Beachcomber I think his first location was in Hollywood And it's where all the stars used to hang out and drink Because he was in World War II

And he was like had to he was sent to those Polynesian islands I was going to say it sounds like probably a GI Yeah And he was like dude Polynesians have it all figured out This is sick And so then just like started opening Polynesian themed bars in the US Also you know it was cool how they spoke different languages

but then Jake Sele was like it all just started sounding like regular to me and then we could hear everybody speak. Yeah. No, I mean, Native Americans aren't really pleased with the movie because they're like, he's like, James Cameron is kind of just like stealing our culture for the purpose

of these Hollywood blockbusters. Yeah. Yeah, there was one Native American activist on Twitter like very angry. Also, wasn't it It was giving some of the stuff I read like the first movie was supposed to be like Iraq Yeah

Allegory for the Iraq war This one I think they were trying to go with Afghanistan As an allegory Especially the scene where they were trying to get information On where Jake Sully was To the tribe that knew nothing And there was the translator

Yeah Who was the child that was brought up Amongst the Navi I don't know I didn't see a lot of Afghanistan in this movie. Not a lot of water in Afghanistan. Yeah, not a lot of water. And Afghanistan, like we went to Afghanistan because we were attacked by al-Qaeda and they were being harbored. So are they saying- Oh, no, this was my big take that I remember. Is Jake Sully supposed to be bin Laden?

That's so that I was just going through to my head. Like, in this analogy that I'm bringing up, he is, he has bin Laden. Yeah. That actually makes more sense. That Jake Sully's been-Lodding. He took down. How? What are you talking about? Because he attacked the United States in Avatar 1. Yeah. And then he went on the run. And he was causing terrorism.

Well, no, no, he did. He attacked the United States the military. When? They attacked, what are you talking about? They attacked the home tree. Yeah, but what happened at the very end of it? Like, there was a massive battle between the navvies and the United States government. It was a war.

They met on like, I want to say neutral ground. but like they met in the middle. I still think it wasn't like y'all reaching. Sully was public enemy number one of the United States military. He flees, he gets harbored out at a remote location

and they won't give up his location. The government goes to try to look for him and the government cares a lot about being... I guess I'm talking about one or two. Two, now I'm talking about two. Yeah, because they're launching terrorist attacks at the beginning. in Afghanistan is a totally different

like culture and tribe and everything just like the water people are totally different tribe and then that shit that's inside the whale's brain that's oil nah that was a very clear allegory for no I think the energy stuff in the first movie was oil

well both of them yeah but the whale stuff I think is adrenachrome and that's what they have that's an overall allegory like colonialism and imperialism. Yeah. Yeah. Spider, I think, was like the worst part of that movie for me. I just, that he was

rat. He was the little white kid with dreads. Yeah, I just, I think maybe it was just his acting. Those are dreads. He's got, he's got kind of no. This, actually, this this conversation, you guys. She's just dirty.

Yeah, he's just dirty. I've watched this conversation online from a third person view and it's it's pretty crazy how like the different points about like can white people have locks yeah because you have like the ska dudes yeah and like the stoner dudes with with like there's a reggae guys yeah but white guys yeah who have the spider hair and then it's it's just it's a battle I watch from afar just out of novelty and interest that's where the term trust a farian comes from where it's like a trust fun kid but he just like loves living that you know reggae lifestyle so stop showering Tom Hanks sir uh yeah chet chet never had the dreads though

i don't think but i mean i'm sure we've all seen our fair share of white people with dreads here there they always just look like they're stinky as hell i think the proper term is locks yeah okay i think it's just braids what i've gathered and are you just yeah yeah It depends on where you had Where that matter In the south, that that's a thing But other places, it's not that It's not that serious

But I appreciate you being cultured enough To understand that, Billy Yeah Good job, Billy Being down at the bottom of the river Really changed a guy So how it'll look on life All right, well, thank you for coming on, Donnie

Thanks for having me Yeah, is there anything else that somebody Anyone wants to get into Anything we miss? How's that cup, mad dog? Oh, that's great Still loving the cup I'm loving the cup

Big T was right, man Big T was right. We got a lot of response about that. Yeah. Women, it's always a cup. Always a new cup. Yeah. It's every three months.

Yeah, you got to switch it up. And then everybody saw that cup and was like, oh, my God, you have a Stanley cup? Yeah. They should not be allowed to call that a Stanley Cup. I think of the OGs. Are they? That was around before. No, no chance.

I think, no, it's because you know Stanley Knife? Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's the same company. I don't know what they make, but they make good cups. I'm pretty sure it's like a... I mean, the Stanley Cup, the trophy has been around for what? Nearly 100 years. Probably longer than that.

Stanley Cup? Do you like, like, what's so great about that cup? Okay, so the size, so it's 40 ounces. You can see, it's 40 ounces. I don't have a car in the city, obviously, but if I were to have a car, this bottom part fits in the cup holder of your car. Because hydroflasks, I love my hydroflask, but it, You have to get a special cup holder from, like, Amazon to fit it.

Wait a second. How much do these things cost? Mine was a gift, but they are steep. Like 50 bucks? Wait a second. Why am I looking at a 12 custom Stanley 1.0. Oh, custom $900. Oh, yeah, no, no, no.

I was like, what the fuck? I just looked up 12, okay, these are custom. PFT does. No, but. It's got a good handle on there. Great handle. The straw is what gets me as a person who loves a cup. if it's a good straw then I'm in

also if you take the straw off I just saw this on TikTok today because I'm on Stanley Cup TikTok now and you can turn it and then it closes like a coffee mug does then you don't spill it it's insulated so this thing this is just the body armor water from the office and as you all know it's just plastic water bottle

it'll get warm if you wait in here for a little while so this is keep it keeps it nice and cold um yeah like everything about it rocks so i want to be clear on the selling points of this cup the first you drink it is that it fits in a cup holder of a car you don't have the second is that it has a straw yep a good straw and the third is that it's made of metal uh yeah they better send us some of these fucking cups we give them way too much oh my god if we got stanley cup i would die okay so you know what i've seen on ticot now also you mentioned stanley cup ticot um

apparent selling point of this cup is that you can take the top off and a Starbucks cup fits inside of it. I saw that this morning. So now they're taking other cups and putting them in this cup. Like a Russian doll. This thing's out of control. It's out of control.

That's so crazy. So the this company's from 1913 but I'm trying to figure out of it's the same dates to 1892. But this company is probably freaking out because they've been in business for a hundred years and then all of a sudden every girl wants their cup. This is the way, this is...

Where did this come from? Because I, Hydroflask is the one I've always heard of. Hydroflask, I had a hydroflask, or I've had two hydrographasks in college. I love my hydroflask. My hydroflask, actually, the reason I'm using this so much recently is because we switched desks upstairs and my hydroflask is in my bin of shit that I can't locate in this office. So I don't know where my hydroclas is right now. But this is, it's also new and improved.

Also, it's TikTok. I mean, it's the, it's, I hate to admit it. the Mormon girls on TikTok who fill it with their Diet Coke and coconut coffee creamer and They mix Diet Coke and coconut coffee creamer? Yeah, because they don't drink coffee so they put creamer and milk and sodas over there

It's like a big thing. All right, I know far too much about this. What the fuck? I'm going to pull the plug on this conversation. Yeah. It's just TikTok at the end of the day. Arian, there was something I saw on TikTok before we started taping.

There's this girl that was talking about different Indian foods that she's trying for the first time. And her voice is the voice of, you know, the, the, um, uh, voiceover robot that they have on TikTok that takes the text to speech. And it was like, I went to the store and tried Indian food for the first time. You know that one? That's her accent. This is, this is how kids are starting to talk now. Oh, no. That's my least favorite voice in the world. They're growing up hearing the TikTok voice. And now that's, that's how they think English is spoken. That is not good for the English language. You're okay with that? I hate that voice over voice. I can't wait till we

integrate with technology. Humans are stupid. This is a stupid place. That's not us integrating with technology. That's just trying. She's cosplaying as a robot. She's appropriating voiceover culture. What's wrong with that? I mean, I hate it. Maybe if they chose a better voice. She was doing, but why do you hate it? Why do I hate it? Let's think. Because she is taking her cues from a robot. Okay, but that, but you have to say, you're telling me what's happening, you're not telling me why you don't like it. Let's see, why does it make me mad?

Wait. I think, I think, it sounds coming off like some hate. This is what sounds like. I am hating on it. Yes, I don't like it. I don't know why. I don't know why. I'm trying to think why I don't like it.

I just don't. Wait, so that voice on TikTok is actually a real person. So, uh, Jesse, it's the voice of a radio. host and voiceover artist Kat Callahan and she's now the voice of TikTok. They record her just reading the whole dictionary right?

Or they just, they can just take her voice and then use, like, use technology to then mimic it for whatever. I think I figured it out Aaron. I think that this woman is changing her entire style of speaking in order to

be more clout friendly. So basically she's changing who she is as a person because we've reached a point as in society where she will get rewarded for having a voice that sounds more like this robot that she's seen on TikTok and that seems like it's a bad idea to me so that seems like it's a dangerous so you mean so you mean she's done what every single human on social media has done changing her life to get more cloud yes yes but I think this is too far didn't you just fork over $500 to get more cloud on Instagram? I was funding the sciences.

Yeah, yeah. He's a modern day Cosmo de Medici. I was trying. It was not altruistic. It was, it was for the clout, man. It was patronage. I was hoping that Billy could find a mammoth skull. So that's why I feel like you're hating. You're hating because your funny tweets is for clout.

I don't know. You're funding your funding you're funding 1500. Let me finish. Let me cook, fam. God, there. You already get off the ropes, PFT. All right. You funding $1,500 excursions for mammoth bones is for clout when this young lady's trying to build her social currency you don't like it's hating the tweets I just do because I like doing them

not for clout the there's a good argument to be made that yes I did potentially just pay $1,500 worth of boat fuel for clout but if I could take that back I would at this point because now I feel bad about hating on this on this young girl but it does I don't know it just makes me mad I don't know why I don't know if I'm explaining it correctly You're just getting old, man. You're getting old. Everything these kids do grinds your gears. I think it is just me being old and me being like...

You need to take a page from my book and you're like, fuck it. Whatever they do themselves, let them do it. I don't give a shit. But do you think that's what's going to happen in the future? You think kids are going to grow up talking like Siri? Honestly, I just don't care enough about these kids to do. I just don't have that in me to like, I care about my kids, but like the rest of them, like, whatever. So, but if your kids start to talk like the TikTok lady,

you would be a little concerned. Take any phones if they're doing it seriously. Okay. What are you doing? Yeah. I just care about this because I've always found that to be like the most annoying voice in the world. I thought it was just like computer generated, just like a, you know, like a little robot. I don't really.

Yeah. I don't bother me. Yeah, no. There's always going to be a new type of social media with kids doing stuff that we don't fully understand now that we're at this age. Did I ever talk about this on the show? I had like an old man mad at kids moment. I was playing pickup basketball and all the younger like high school kids

were wearing AirPods during pickup basketball. Yeah, you're talking about that. It's like what the, like, and then like of course one popped out and got stepped on. It's like like, really? Yeah, that's absurd. Like, why have them in?

Just listening to music while playing pickup basketball. Yeah. um that's that's outrageous like i i almost got like angry because one of them was on my team and i was like trying to call out a screen and he just got killed um yeah i've worn uh my headphones while riding a bike around the city sometimes and i'm like this is super dangerous yeah i mean it's fun it makes the bike ride a lot more fun but i don't think that's uh what you should be doing if you value your life. Transparency mode.

DeMarne Hamlin is, he's out of the hospital. He's out of the hospital. He is being transferred to Buffalo. He might go into a different hospital, but he's out of that level one trauma center, whatever it is. Apparently, his heart's functioning well on its own, breathing well on his own,

vital signs all great. He watched football yesterday. so yeah did they say what the actual diagnosis was i think it was um cardiac arrest yeah it was the was it commodio cordis cortis which is you get hit in the so i i can put on my um senior year of college EKG class that i took and i can kind of explain maybe how this worked and i'm probably going to fuck this up but i got a D plus i think in this class and it It was the best D plus I've ever gotten in my entire life. So what happens is your heart has an electrical impulse that starts up at the pacemaker part

of your heart, which is if you're looking at somebody straight ahead, it's the top left part of their heart. So if you're looking down at your heart, it's the part that's like closest to your chin. And what that does is to make the blood circulate through your body, it fires off an electrical pulse. And when your heart gets hit with this electric pulse, all the fibers, they polarize themselves. So they go from either negative to positive or positive to negative. It sends a little electric shock. And that switch in polarization is what makes the heart squeeze. And that's what sends your blood everywhere. So when your heart initially beats down, that's when you see on

the EKG, the big spike that goes up and down. There's like a little bump that's, like, a little bump that shows the polarization, then the big spike that goes up and down, and then as it repolarizes it, that's when it resets. And that's called the T-wave. And if you get hit on your heart during the T-wave, which happens right after that big spike up and down, if you get hit right on your heart during the T-wave, there's a small chance that it can stop your heart if it's like a concentrated small enough force that acts on that certain part of your heart. So it's like a very rare thing. And I think it's 20 milliseconds. Maybe that might be the wrong amount of time. But something like that. It's a small instance in the beating of your heart where if you get hit

at that spot at that exact wrong time, it can stop it entirely. Or it's continue into, I think, V-Fib, which is pretty much a death sense. Then you go into cardiac. arrest. Yeah. So a ventricular fibrillation is v-fib and so at that if you hit v-fib, then you're kind of fucked. Remember when you were saying that I was getting into medical stuff earlier in this episode? I mean, I think I explained that at about a D-plus level, which is pretty good. I also didn't get this. I got this information from a doctor not like listening to Joe Rogan. The brain is a muscle. Kind of is. So thank God he's all right. If you guys want to hear something a little morbid, but it also explains how modern football

came to be in the 1905 season. So this was before the NFL and they only played it in colleges. 19 players died in that season. And like the president of Harvard was like, we just need to abolish this sport for good. Like we can't keep on playing the sport because people were dying every year. And once they had a year with 19 deaths, they're like, this is getting out of hand. And Teddy Roosevelt was a big. football guy, a fan of football. So he called a meeting with all like the top coaches,

the coach of Princeton, Yale, and Harvard. And they figured out how to change the rules to make the sport more safer. And that's when they created the forward pass. Yeah. And then they changed like used to be you just needed five yards for a first down. They changed it to 10. And they created the neutral zone in between the offense and defense. And they put in hash marks. Yeah, putting hash marks. and obviously the sport is still really dangerous, but the changes they made then made it a lot safer. The last, the one person ever died in the NFL was in 1976, and I think he was on the Bears.

He was on the Eagles, I think. He was playing the Bears. Yeah. I just remember Dick Butkus watched him die. And I think it was the same, it was cardiac arrest, I think. Yeah, I think that was like one of more like an undiagnosed heart issue. There was a guy that played on the Bills. You guys remember Kevin Everett back in 2008, I want to say?

2008, he was on special teams, and I think it was a kickoff, and he ran down the field. He took a hit that didn't look, it didn't look crazy violent. It wasn't anything out of the ordinary, a normal football game, but it jammed his spine, and he was, like, immediately paralyzed, and he couldn't breathe because he's paralyzed. and they came out there and I remember they injected like an IV they gave him an IV that lowered his body temperature to like I want to say 95 degrees, 94 degrees

because if you lower your entire core body temperature then it reduces inflammation like almost instantaneously and they got him into the hospital and he could walk again now I think but that was like a scary day in football because everybody thought that there was a chance that this guy might die That was wild.

And then over the course of that week, he also improved. So shout to DeMar, very happy to see him. It must have been a cool moment for him on Sunday when he's watching the NFL. And he sees all across the league, like every coach wearing his jersey number, everybody talking about him. He must, the amount of love that he got to feel on Sunday was probably pretty cool. So the doctors were quote on saying that when the bills, he was watching the game and when the bills had that first kickoff return. he set off all the alarms in the ICU because of his heart rate

and, I mean, his vitals were going nuts because the adrenaline of watching the runback. Yeah. So, I mean, that's pretty cool. Yeah, that's pretty cool. But what if, like, were they bad alarms or? I guess when your heart rate goes over a certain level. Yeah, it's going to notify something.

I bet they just, like, really had, like, keeping tabs on his heart. and then it happened again but don't know so I mean already there's somebody had to answer a question of like whether or not he's going to be able to play the playoffs this year that's like such yeah that's such an NFL thing is like this guy

this guy almost died and then somebody's already like so uh we got home field to defend is he gonna be ready to go though it's like Aryan's tweet where you where you saw that the bills were putting them on the IR and that they were going to pay his salary in full. And I think you pretty rightfully commented like, oh, it takes this guy almost dying to do the right thing. And then your tweet got misquoted by that one account. I forget what that was, but they made you seem like you were, you were attacking the bills. It was like Aryan Foster rips the bills for

paying DeMarne's full salary. Yeah. Why is he getting paid? He ain't doing nothing. Yeah, that's my, That's my take, guy. Oh, this just popped up. Oh, yeah. Hey, Arian. Check this out. So the Texans, I can't see what you're seeing. All right.

So the Texans, they fired, they fired Lovie, which. Shocker. Yeah, I think a lot of people, unfortunately, saw it coming. But he was essentially hired so that they could fire him in a year. I think a lot of people knew that there was a good possibility that might happen. And they put in a request to interview D'Amico Ryan's for their head coaching job. So, oh, that's crazy. You know, it's crazy is Drey, Andre Johnson has been like, because I went back the other, the other week when they played the Browns.

And Drey's like the man over there. I think, I think he's personally fired for like a GM position. He gets D'Amico back. Like, it'll be like a whole bunch of like ex players. That would be a good little look. I would like that. I'll come back, let me know if they need a running back coach. You think Andre Johnson's going to, he wants to be a GM?

I think he does. We ain't had that conversation, but I'm like, why are you hanging around the organization so much? Like, he's always there. And I ask him, I say, yo, bro. I said, what is your position? Like, what is your position here? He says, I'm Dre. Okay.

Yeah, I mean, he meant so much to the organization that they're like, yeah, just come hang out and be you. And that's how it should That's exactly how it should be Yeah Okay, so I mean Get the whole band back together What do you know about D'Amico in terms of

Like X's and O's shit He was He was the captain They call him Cap So he was like the captain Of the defensive shit He knows his shit He's very smart

And he's one of those guys Like People go in two ways You know what I'm saying When they stop playing football They either go and like I'm not fucking with football Or like I

can't get away from this game he was one of those guys and so and he has like uh i had another dude that did this to uh gerard mayo like when you talk to him they got the coach voice now like that's damico like i saw demico at the airport probably like probably like half a year ago and he's got the code hey man how you doing man everything got like bro i'm not like don't talk to me like that it's weird i wanted u t to hire gerard meo when they hired josh hypole oh yeah they made the right call yeah probably well i mean i do think gerad mayo Well, Mayo might have won. You never know.

I think he's going to be a really good coach. Mayo probably would have limited South Carolina to under 60 points. I mean, he probably wouldn't have scored 60 in five or six games either. That's true. That's true. Who knows, though? Well, that's cool. I hope that, I hope Tomiko gets a good opportunity there.

And I hope that that'd be cool to have, like, all the old dudes from the Texans, like the guys that built it into a successful franchise to come back. I'll get hired. I'll get fired at that same season. Would you want to be a running back coach? That would be fun as shit, but like, as I said, I'll get fired because, like, I don't do well with, like, you know what I'm saying? I got too many questions, you know what I mean? Like, what are we doing this stupid shit for?

Like, tell me. Yeah, I don't know how you would be able to handle being in that position of authority because it'd be bad. It'd be bad. Like, I would always be bucking ahead. I'm like, yo, why? Because I was used to, like, one of the things that I think needs to change is like, you know, we don't need to practice so much. Like, you don't need a practice. You either know it or you don't.

You either know it. Players coach, guys first order of business, no more practice. Listen, you guys aren't even made the NFL. You're good at football. That was my point. I was like, dog, you could literally hand me after training camp when I know the basic shit. You can hand me the playbook Saturday before the game. Because all they do is they'll have like a base set of plays and then they have like 10, 15 plays that they'll mock up for this game.

right and like you can hand me that shit on Saturday and I'll know what to do it's not like rocket sign and so it's like we need to spend the rest of the time making our make sure our bodies are okay to go that's the number one goal so like why am I sitting here jogging through the same run that I've seen 70 fucking times in one day rather than going to the ice uh ice tub getting a massage we should have massage people on deck I don't think they're going to do that like audit like make sure to buy there so like I'll be I'll be I'll be I'll be I'll be In my running back rooms, we're going to have a masseuse there. Everybody's getting, everybody's getting touched on.

That's, yeah. Might not be the right franchise for that right now. But I like where your head's at, because I've said for a while, not those exact same things like players don't need to practice, but, like, I do think that there's diminishing return sometimes when you have a talented team. And maybe there's like some injury prevention that goes along with that. If you practice, then when you,

I don't know how you just, like, set off a banger like that and just continue to talk normal. I don't understand how you do that. That's talent. What? The Sean thing? That was a banger. I mean, I thought you were setting me up for it. I was like, I really did.

I was dead. I was dead serious, because, like, you need bassoos, but Jesus Christ, that was hilarious. Easiest al-Upe of all time. I would like to see what would happen if we had, like, a really good, like a super talented team that just practiced once a week. It's like, we'll practice on Tuesdays. We'll play on Sundays. Some of the greatest seasons that you have ever seen play. I'm talking about the Randy Moss season.

I'm talking about, like, some of the greatest players that have played that had the best seasons, they barely, Adrian Peterson and 2K yards. They barely practice. Julio, did they watch a lot of tape? Like, do you still think watching tape's important? Yeah, yeah. Knowing what you're going against, knowing certain situations, knowing down the distance, knowing all of that stuff is very important.

But that's all mental, it's all cerebral. Like, I don't need to physically do this shit anymore. Like, there are some guys that do, right? But a lot of guys don't. Most of them, I would say don't. Julio Jones barely practiced for like three years. He's pretty good. I'm telling you.

You don't, you don't, like, once you know how to play the game, you don't need to practice all the time. It's not basketball. Like, they go shoot around and then they go to the bar, and then they have a fucking, and then they play the game. It's not, you know what I'm saying? You need to make sure your body's straight. Quarterbacks probably need to get a lot of practice.

Like, get the throw. The reeds. Yeah, the reeds and like the muscle memory of the throws. Yeah, but you can have people like practice squad folks giving you that look. Yes, they need that look. But nine times out of ten, like your receivers aren't 100%. So you're not even getting the look that you're going to get in the game. You know what I mean?

Because like what's like mid to late season, nobody's going 100% in practice. I mean, it's hard. What about chemistry? Something that gets worked on with repetitions. Like let's say you're working on an option. route out the backfield like a shoot route and you need to make sure you're on the same page as like the starting quarterback you don't think there's value in that from like a full speed practice i think that shit is built in the off season uh and training camp i think that's when

that should be during during the season like because the majority like let's say you play on thursday right there's zero full speed practices it's all walkthroughs you cannot do a full speed practice so like there's a lot there's a lot of chemistry that goes on in between that repetition walk through stuff like that like you just know how to play and if and this is why they call you professionals like this is the spot we expect you to be in at this moment if you're not there we're going to find somebody that can what about that's that's what being a professional is about what about compete periods like you know when they practice like the starting offense starting defense they're doing like a two-minute drill uh like simulation or you know like a certain

down and distance situation i think that's a more of football traditionalism that I don't think needs to be done. Like I think it's cool to have like a quarterback simulate that shit. But like I never was in that situation and was like, man, thank God we practiced it. Like I never once have felt like that. And sure, there's probably quarterback something that I say that. But I don't know. Like I said, they'd be playing a different sport than me.

So I'm a hater. All right. Well, I'm fully in favor of getting Aaron Foster on the no practice policy as the running backs coach. The running back is so good in Houston. Damien Pierce. He probably doesn't need to practice. Not that much.

You know what I mean? Yeah. That's actually really interesting you think that way because you see so much end-of-game scenarios that go haywire. Like even Josh Allen didn't get a spike off at the right time in a two-minute drill. Like very recently, or was that last season, that you think, like you really don't think there's any value of simulating those situations. Is it about Jack Prescott?

He did recently. Were you ever in a two-minute drill? in practice, right? And then a game came and you were like, oh, if it wasn't for that practice scenario, I would have not known what to do. I've never seen that. You're a professional football player. You know all the rules. You should. You should know all the situations. Like, you should be a student of the game. So the situations that you haven't gone through, you've seen. Like, there's never been a moment where I was like, damn, I'm lucky I saw that in practice. Like, every blitz that happens the majority of blitzes that I've seen they don't like you can't practice

for because except in college in college if they run a 4-3 and they do a and they do a what they call it like a green dog or a mad dog or whatever the specific blitz is they line up right for you and it's right there and practice is valuable in the NFL it's never like that it's like you always see a look you didn't see you always the safety's never where you're supposed to be so you have to just you have to know what's going on like i said there's some value in practicing in season but there's never like full speed it's no point training camp yeah let's get it in i totally agree with you on hitting like there should like there's no point to have full speed practices in season what about just yeah i feel like being able to tackle is something

that's best when you get to practice it occasionally or not at all i think in the nfl you know how to hit Yeah, not everybody Who What Deion Who Deon Sanders couldn't tackle anybody That's a that's a business choice though She said that multiple times

He says a business decision There's some people I don't want my corners I don't want my number one corners Knowing how to tackle either What do you mean? You covered a guy You covered a guy

I don't need you I don't need you taking down Uh huh I like where your head's at I feel like You're also talking your way Out of a job with Damiko rides he strikes me as a big practice guy probably yeah he very football's a southern guy

you know what I'm saying he probably doesn't want an atheist on staff anyway it's true but but you're available if they do want to hire you but you'll pick up the call here I ain't doing shit I got a podcast every couple days other than that I'm getting really good at golf so somebody stopped me either that with BGA tour let's get it love it also shut up bill O'Brien I feel like knowing what we know now about what's going on in Houston I feel like he's just we buried him we talked a lot of trash about bill o'brien but i think it was bill o'brien the gm that wasn't as good bill o'brien the coach was a good head coach and houston probably wishes that they kept him around i said that he was a great coach he just had his hands and the pot

too much of the pot he's a great coach he's an offensive very brilliant offensively i feel like aryan and ryan would be friends because all they do is podcast and golf Yeah, that's true. That's true. We got to get you linked up with Ryan. He does spit and chicklets here, Aaron. That's our hockey podcast. Let me bring him into the foursome.

Okay. I'm going to break 90 out there when I go to New York. We should probably get Aaron a liquor deal too. That might be the next step. Yeah, do you want to invent a brand of liquor, Aaron? I'm more of a wine guy. Oh, there we go. Creatos on blend.

Foster's Vineyard. Yeah, I like it. Fosters Yeah, Foster's beer Fosters Yeah, texting for wine We'll talk about it Maybe we can get you

Get you a wine blend going here I feel like we need We need something like that here All right Aaron See you later See you on Wednesday What are we thinking

For next show What are you thinking Billy? Sounds like you have an idea I'm actually not I just like discussing it on air Because then people send me cool stuff Let me rip out the list. Do you want to look at the list of topics?

What do we got coming up this week? Birthday. It's Billy's birthday on Friday. Let's do an episode about me. A deep dive on Billy. That was actually today's episode. Let's see. What are your plans for Friday?

Going hunting. Okay. A bunch of the buddies. Hill song, the church. We could do nexium, the sex cult. Did we not do that? We did cults. Nexium the sex cult.

What's that? There's a documentary about him. Oh, that's fire. John McAfee. Oh, we did John McAfee? No. Kind of. Billy McFarland and Firefest.

Billy McFarlane is someone that I think, he's someone I think you guys could actually get to come on the podcast. Oh, for sure. He recently got out of jail. Maybe we'll wait on that, see if we can actually get him on the podcast. Can we reach out to Billy McFarland? because I think he's doing another Fire Fest. And I would love to play.

I would love for Pup Punk to be one of the bands at Firefest too. Yeah. I'd be down just to go. And you guys would play for cheap just to say you played at Fire Fest. Yeah. No, I would be the guy from the meme that was in charge of getting the water out. I would suck a dick to play at Firefest too. All right.

Yeah. Get it done. I would. I'm kind of leaning towards Nexium. Sex cult. This sounds interesting. Yeah, it was like a bunch of slurys were in it, I think. All right, so you guys want to watch the documentary about nexium?

Yeah. And we can do the nexium, or is it nexivim? It's nexium, but it's spelled with the V. Okay, nexium sex cult case. That's N-X-I-V-M sex cult case. Isn't that like a heartburn medication? It does sound like one. I think that's nexum.

I wait okay so it's season two of HBO's the vow is the documentary about it right nexium nexium's nexium's heartburn medication all right but but no the the sex called is spelled nx ivm uh spelled differently you guys could talk about christalia's sex cult too oh he had a cult well he always joked about like he was like trying to start a cult and then it sounds like it like he came a little too close to making that a reality okay so this is the nexium sex cult case it's on uh there's a documentary on netflix from 2020 that we can watch on there it's called seduced inside the nexium cult that to me sounds like a pretty good idea to watch that and then there's also i'm looking it up right now the true story of the sex cult on hbo season two of

HBO's The Vow. Is that out yet? Sorry, I'm looking this up right now. Or what was that Liberty University sex thing with the guy who was just having sex with the guy's wife? Oh, yeah, we talked. We said we were going to do that at one point. Jerry Falwell?

That was old president. You guys can just group all sex cults into this episode. I was just too horny. We'll do Nexium slash Jerry Falwell. You want to do nexium slash Jerry Falwell? Although that one has a documentary too, there might be too much stuff to watch. Also, Jerry Falwell could be its own. his own episode. Very different

vibe. Yeah. Do a poll. Do a poll. Do a poll if people would rather it be Nexium or Jerry Falwell. Okay. So vote on the pool. Yeah. Vote on the poll. We will see you guys on Thursday. Sweet. Love you guys. You know,

I'm sorry Thank you.