Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - NANODOSE: Christmas Abs

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

On today's episode of Nanodosing, the crew is back to talk everything from the new Jeffrey Dahmer Netflix series to getting their Christmas abs we so desperately need. Also, Big T is T'd Off about mul...tiple things and you don't want to miss it. You'll even get a fresh edition of "What's The Beef?" All this and more on today's show. Make sure to tune into MACRODOSING, every Thursday at 12am EST.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, macrodosing listeners. You can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. Javante Williams Tour's A-C-O. Oh, fuck, that sucks. It's bad. I like Javante Williams, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:16 He's really good for movies. Wow, Mad Dog. That's the first thing you think of? Mad Dog, this is like 9-11, but for your fantasy team. Are we recording? Yeah. Good. Keep that in.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Yep. My fantasy team. Javante Williams is a human being first and foremost mad dog You know what it is a 9-11 for my fantasy team I don't finish this sentence Billy I left 64 points on the bench No he's out of my family
Starting point is 00:00:43 That's sucks Billy I'm sorry I'd be blowing Winston out right now And Winston's grave dancing I uh I forgot to start I think it was Verlander in fantasy baseball I'm in the finals Can you just am I stupid for Yeah
Starting point is 00:00:58 Let's see who you have here Rating Billy's fantasy performance I'm guessing that Billy Your team is the bullfrogs Yes I'm guessing Yes Yeah you had
Starting point is 00:01:12 You had quite a bench performance Let's see who you put in there Yeah You probably shouldn't have started A.J. Dillon Probably should have put in either J.K. Dobbins or Rashad Penny But could you have ever
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Starting point is 00:02:41 50% off two or more pairs of polarized sunglasses. When you use promo code macro, you get 50% off two or more pairs of polarized sunglasses. All right, welcome back to nanodosing. Arian, welcome. Arian is rocking the 4th of July macrodosing. tea looking good what's handing what's handing
Starting point is 00:03:00 oh not a lot just um I'm down pretty bad this morning so I'm trying to I'm hoping that being around you guys will improve my mood a little bit I'm just I'm gonna I'm gonna funk you know talk to us man what's going on it's it's the most inconsequential stuff it's just NFL stuff I'm just
Starting point is 00:03:17 listening I'm just depressed watching the commanders I'm just depressed I just know that the team is just it sucks there's nothing there's nothing to be happy about there's no joy The team brings me zero joy, and it hasn't for quite some time. How long would you say? More than two weeks?
Starting point is 00:03:33 No, I got, the last time I got, I had like something to look forward to or I was hopeful, that would be 2020. Like the second half of 2020, I think that was, our defense is pretty good. It was fun to watch. But now it's just nothing. Nothing's good. Even the good parts, I feel bad for the good parts. Like the good parts of the team, Jehan Dodson, Terry McLaren, I just feel bad that they have to deal with the rest of the team are you uh do you have anything that you're looking forward
Starting point is 00:04:00 to well for the team just in life kirk cousins uh maybe coming back to the commanders in a couple years really really pumped up about that potentially no i mean i'm pumped up that we might we might draft a quarterback that'll be cool last night not well i didn't sleep all but that was mostly my rib billy broke my rib watch the vlog the behind-the-scenes stuff of our trip to knoxville tennessee Billy broke my cartilage in my ribcage and last night for whatever reason it just okay yeah you're right Billy you didn't actually break it
Starting point is 00:04:32 It's the Nike ball The Nike ball I blend it's like literally they're They're like darts It's a weapon yeah And yeah last night was a very painful night's sleep for me Or lack thereof So yeah I'm just I'm just dealing with some stupid stuff
Starting point is 00:04:45 Have you been having any feelings of hopelessness Worthlessness or excessive guilt About the Washington football team? Just in general Yeah about the team yeah Okay All right Anything else? What was the last time they made the playoffs?
Starting point is 00:04:57 2020. And we don't... Yeah, we almost beat Tom Brady in the Buccaneers. We covered the spread against him. How about that? Who's the quarterback that game? Taylor Heineke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Taylor He was the quarterback then. Taylor Zineke. Yeah, it's very good. Zinn guy. Who's the first person to sign it to go viral for signing? Is Zin can. I love it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I miss that guy. I miss those simpler times. Do you think I'm depressed, Billy? Yeah, I just did the screening. You checked out. Okay. No, literally, it just did the screening. Yeah, this team will depress anybody, and it stinks.
Starting point is 00:05:36 It's stupid. Have you ever thought of cutting people out of your life? Carson Wentz? Yeah, Carson Wentz. Okay. Yes. So, you know. Dan Snyder? I think you start cutting toxic people out of your life.
Starting point is 00:05:46 I need, you're right. I do. Yeah. I do. Carson Wentz. Big T. Do you want to sit up at this table? I'm okay.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Okay. um before we get into the rest of the show big tea is going to be joining me tonight as you're listening to see if you're listening in philadelphia i have some breaking news um brandon walker is not going to be able to participate in the live dozen trivia event so big tea we're going to the bullpen and i'm tapping in the righty big tea is going to be joining myself and fran because i feel like big tea is the closest we have to brandon walker in this in this office in terms of like knowledge base so um you're going to be filling in for brandy and friend And by the time you're listening to this, we might even be champions. Who knows? We might be Philadelphia champions. Yeah, we'll see what happens. I was like your fourth choice. You tried to get Gardner Minshu, Wallow and Gilly, several other people. But that's a good list to be on. Listen, pal, I'm nobody's fourth choice. If it were... Well, you are mine in this case. Right. And I had half a mind to not do it, but I'm a company man. And Jeff needed something. to fill in so I'm doing it but I'm just letting you know I'm not doing it for you got it okay
Starting point is 00:06:58 good I wouldn't I wouldn't want you to do it for me yeah but yeah I would have if I was your first choice I'd been like yeah absolutely here's the thing big T those other people they have connections to the city of Philadelphia you might say right you know so trying to maybe show the home crowds love you have somebody that they can be excited about like a hometown hero yeah that's fine I'm sure they'll be more than they'll be tickled pink to see big T coming to town So, yeah, let's talk. We got some stuff to get into today on nanodosing. I saw this thing trending last night, and I wanted to know what you guys thought about it.
Starting point is 00:07:33 The face reveal, we had like the biggest face reveal in like a year. A year ago today, I think that's when, not to brag, like the guy kind of stole my idea of showing your face on September 30th. I invented that. But this dude, he was like a Minecraft player. He's a Minecraft Twitch streamer. Okay. So how did he do it without showing his face? He wore a mask.
Starting point is 00:07:56 So you wore sunglasses. He wore a full, like, face mask for the past two years. Wait, I never seen a mask. It was like a white mask with exas fries. Look up the dream mask. The dream mask. That's creepy, man. And why did he decide to show his face?
Starting point is 00:08:10 I think he just got, I think similar to you, stealing your stick. He got tired of living under a mask. Wait, wait. Was it this creepy ass, just smiley face white? No. Well, wait. Let me see. show me it's the white mask
Starting point is 00:08:24 with like a just blank smile oh my god that's creepy as fuck yeah I didn't know this man existed until about 12 hours ago okay yeah and I was sucked into it for about 12 minutes that was the most
Starting point is 00:08:40 underwhelming reveal at least your eyes are soft and beautiful this man is the most mediocre white man I've ever seen my life I mean I'm a pretty mediocre that's why I didn't show his face I'm a pretty mediocre white man myself. No, but I at least knew what you looked like, my sand's glasses.
Starting point is 00:08:58 Yeah. But the dude, if you, okay, if you're listening at home and you don't know what the dream thing is, imagine a basic white man who streams Twitch or who streams MindCraft. Think of what that man would look like. Yep, you nailed it. That's exactly what he looks like. You thought of him. And it's like. I think he's a YouTuber.
Starting point is 00:09:18 Yeah, YouTube. He has like 30 million subscribers. And it's like, yeah, dude, I know what you look. It's like, like, you stream Minecraft that can pretty much figure it out. I saw he's ugly was trending. Which is also rude. He isn't ugly. He isn't hot, right?
Starting point is 00:09:30 He's just, he just is. He just exists. He's just mid. And it's like, that's okay. I'm, like, it's fine, but. Nothing wrong with being mid. No, but it's like, these people were like hyping it. This guy was like hyping up.
Starting point is 00:09:43 He's like, face revealed, dude, you look like exactly what a Minecraft streamer would and should look like. But you know what? Honestly, there is the element that he totally. traded on personality and became popular personality. Which is great for him and he's a gazillionaire and he has more money than I'll ever have in my entire life. How much you think he made off the face reveal? He had 1.4 million concurrence watching it last night.
Starting point is 00:10:06 What does that translate to though? Like in terms of money. Yeah. I don't know how much money. Let's calculate. Probably tons of money. Yeah. But I mean, just on that one video he'll probably make like $100,000. I don't know that video. His name is dreaming. But he had, when I was watching,
Starting point is 00:10:22 it live like it was a YouTube premiere there was 1.4 million people watching yeah all to ship that's insane that's so many people i consider myself like even if i don't watch things like i know who people on the internet are i've never heard i'd never heard of that guy in my life he has like six million twitter followers it's incredible he has 30 million youtube subscribers i never knew he existed so we had he just plays Minecraft yep so we had something in college called the ghost population where they were people that you only saw at orientation and graduation. And they were the ones who were like indoor studying all the time. NPCs.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Yeah. But like you never see them because they just, they wouldn't go to parties. They just were studying being good students. So I feel like when those people graduate, they become fans of these streamers. And we just, the reason why we have no idea who these people are and how they have so much of following is because all those indoors people who don't talk to anybody. else that's that's their mode of entertainment well I mean that also I don't know a ton of like I don't know I don't I don't take Minecraft content yeah like that guy would have never come up on my my guy just sunned an entire demographic yeah well I mean am I wrong unless you
Starting point is 00:11:33 unless you take in that kind of or you watch a lot of streamers and stuff but I watch streamers but I don't watch my Minecraft gives me a headache I don't it's like eight bit graphics I don't understand the appeal. Makes me so mad that he's like just unlimited money for playing Minecraft. I mean, the people who like Minecraft are the people that prefer this internet world to their own, to the real world. Like if you wanted to, you're mad at that Maddie? You can't get mad at someone for chasing their bag. I'm not mad. I'm mad that I didn't chase the bag myself. Like I'm mad I wasn't 12 and became a Minecraft Twitch streamer. Yeah. I could have been a, I might start streaming Skyrim because that was the
Starting point is 00:12:13 one game I got addicted to totally went all out in yeah I also I don't know if it's holy shit I don't know if it's a boy versus girl or a non gamer versus gamer thing I don't get the appeal with people like watching other people play video games
Starting point is 00:12:28 I don't really get that I do understand I don't know about Minecraft but I so like I used to think the same thing until like I got into gaming myself and so like I enjoy watching what you do is like it's like I like watching, well, first of all, I like watching people play the game.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Like, I can't, right? So, like, you enjoy them doing things that you're not just able to do. Like, that's what, like, have ever, like, when I was growing up, like, you ever face the dude, he was playing Madden or where you'd be on a sticks and it was like, you got with that one friend who's like nice and you just can't beat him. Like, those are gamers and gamers are, they nice at what they do. And so after you, like, watch. how the game is supposed to be played,
Starting point is 00:13:15 you then start to, like, enjoy the personalities and how they, you know, comment on, because game it is fun, right? Like, I got just their multiplicity of different games out there. And so, like, you fall in love with, like, the, you know, the personalities of the game that you're watching. And that just translates, it's just another mode of entertainment, honestly.
Starting point is 00:13:33 That, I mean, it's the same reason we watch football. Like, we would like to see Arian Foster run the ball like we can't. Yeah, I guess. Rex. I don't know. I just have never been, like, a fan of that kind of. stuff but I guess 30 million people are and like 1.4 million people wanted to see this guy's face at the same time that's crazy like he just he tweeted I just looked at him up a little bit he tweeted
Starting point is 00:13:52 like today or like he's going to do it and like has like almost a million likes on Twitter that just doesn't even happen anymore yeah that's insane he has like six million Twitter followers which Twitter is generally the lowest number that anyone will have if he has six million on Twitter he has to have five six times that on Instagram Yeah, it's like one of the least active social medias. And I feel like for his, I wonder for like his demographic if Twitter is still a thing. Like fan Twitter is too. I mean, obviously he's had almost a million likes.
Starting point is 00:14:25 That's insane. Yeah. Oh, God. That makes me so mad. I mean, it's the younger demographic. I understand the whole Twitch stream thing. Like I get why you can, why it would be fun to watch somebody play a game, especially a game that's like action pack and visually stimulating. Minecraft seems like the opposite of that to me.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah. Minecraft is like, aren't you just like building houses and like. Yeah, but it's, it's the creativity and because it's a sandbox game, like you really can implement your unique mind into that world because you can, it's so malleable. It's like the same reason why we like, we built at the end of the day, like when you build the Taj Mahal, the Empire State building, like man is already always tried to like manipulate it. I will say this, it was really, so like, when the pandemic first hit, like, and we didn't know what was going on, right? My daughter, my youngest daughter actually had, we got caught in L.A. She actually had, like, a respiratory issue. And so we had, this is at the beginning. So we actually had her on, like, a little ventilator. And then, like, two weeks later, the pandemic hit, and we heard it was a respiratory disease. And so, like, we, like, locked down.
Starting point is 00:15:36 We didn't see anybody. And so, like, I didn't even see my other kids for a little while. and when one of the things that I did to keep it keeping you know involved with them was excuse me we opened a a Minecraft server and they all played with me and so like we're all in discord we're all and we just had an entire little world and so we were like building our own little world and it was really fun to do that with them and that like that's I guess that's the appeal I couldn't I couldn't see the appeal outside of that but I understand how people can in enjoy it. It was only fun for me because it was like bonding with them and they enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah. I also think that it just reminds people of playing the game. And so they look at the screen and they see the graphics from the game. And so they kind of feel to a certain extent like they're currently playing that video game. But then why don't you just go play the video game? Because you can't do it like that. But the sports is different because like Arian is an elite athlete that is like a once in a generation like that you like, sorry. But I mean he is. But like, like that's something that's so extra like so abnormally human like I can go play a video game right now but their brains are built better at it better they're better at they're built different I follow this one dude on on YouTube that plays DCS the combat simulator that I play right and he's
Starting point is 00:16:56 just fucking sick at dog fighting and he's just explained everything that he's doing as he's doing it I'm like damn that dude is getting into a one circle fight with an f14 from the 1980s and he's beating like an SU 57. This dude's fucking legit using the differential thrust. And like I watch it. I'm like, I'm like, I, it's, it's fun. It's fun for me to watch. This might be a two America's thing, but it's like gamers versus non-gamers.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Remember when you said you used to watch videos of other people eating? Yeah. Why the hell would you watch other people's eating? Yeah. When you can go eat yourself. You do. That's what you do. You sit down and you eat with them.
Starting point is 00:17:33 You're eating too. But you were doing it like an active participant. Where you were invited to their lunch You like some people play Minecraft while watching a Minecraft Streamer Oh Maybe I don't know
Starting point is 00:17:44 But yeah you With a moop bang Dude that's straight You argue Why do people watch please Like yours is weirder Like Philly That's a thing
Starting point is 00:17:53 That's not a me thing That's not a me thing That's not a me thing Like I swear to God It's a popular genre of YouTube You should throw rocks and glass houses I shouldn't That's why I don't
Starting point is 00:18:03 Yuck other people's yums I'm not yuck I'm just saying I I I don't understand the appeal I obviously see that the appeal is there I mean 30 million people but I just have never I've never caught you know what it's kind of like it's like it's it's it's like a form of escapism right like we all have our shit going on in our daily lives and like that's how some people just get away like I didn't understand I get it I don't like it but I didn't understand like the whole shade room and TMZ crowd right Like people who follow that kind of shit
Starting point is 00:18:35 I think it's the most toxic shit in the world But it's like their form of entertainment Like they like celebrity gossip Like what's going on who's having Who's dating who whose babies is that Like I think it's the dumbest shit in the world But like that's how people escape From day to day lives
Starting point is 00:18:51 And I can't knock it It's just I think it's toxic But it's just a form of it basically Yeah this all goes back I mean if you guys haven't seen Harry Stow's new movie Don't worry darling yet this kind of wits into it. Oh, I heard that movie sucked.
Starting point is 00:19:04 It doesn't suck, but I'm not getting into it. I'm not getting into it because I'm going to get fucking dogs on Twitter, but no, it doesn't suck. I heard blonde sucks. You are quite literally the only person I've seen say that. No, it's so good, but I'm not even talking about it because everyone's going to fucking dog me on Twitter. I heard blonde suck.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Heard that. Yeah. I heard blonde is great if you're horny. Yeah. Oh. Or weird. Or maybe both. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Oh, you know what? Jeffty Lowe told me, I think it was Jeffty Lowe. He was saying that blonde is just, it's basically. Basically, it should be rated in C-17. I stumbled upon some Armenian genocide denying propaganda on Netflix. Okay. It's called the Ottoman lieutenant. It was like, it's a rom-com.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I was browsing through Netflix and it looked cool because it was historical. So I clicked on it. It turns out it's just like literally it's like some romance, but like basically half the time they're like, they're like, we can't control, like, portraying the Turkish. the Ottoman military in World War I as like, like not, it's the weirdest thing ever. And I realized it halfway through. And it's,
Starting point is 00:20:11 it's just check it out. You'll realize it's total propaganda. I then looked it up and found that it is propaganda. And it was put out because there was a Christian bail movie that did the opposite. But since we talked about, uh, acknowledging it on this podcast, I didn't even,
Starting point is 00:20:26 I was able to spot like that there was an opposite. Like, it was really weird. And it turns, that was produced by the Turkish government. It's kind of crazy that Netflix is even allowing on. That is nuts. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:38 It's also 10 years to the day that the D.C. sniper attacks happened. I was thinking maybe, do we want to do an episode on the D.C. sniper? I was 10? Are you sure it's in 20? That's what I meant 20. Oh, okay. I was like, I feel like I don't remember that happening at all. That's what I meant was 20. Fuck, I'm old.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I can put it on our list. Yeah. So 20 years to the day. So I think it started on October 3rd, 2002. So, yeah, do we want to do that episode on Thursday? Yeah, you know a lot about that. I've never. I live to it.
Starting point is 00:21:22 I think, I mean, you've told a story about the van and everything, your van. But I think it would be great to get it going again. to just go through everything that happened that way first person we could do that I've also I've been watching the Dahmer show on Netflix I was gonna say that yeah serial killers pretty creepy I haven't watched it yet but I've seen it's it's maybe the the hardest show that I've ever watched like to get through because it's just so uncomfortable there's so many it's really really good but there's so many parts of it where you're just like this is so fucked up I I have a hard time watching this and he just like eat people yeah
Starting point is 00:21:59 he ate people uh he should have been caught like he should have been caught i think after his second or third person um the uh the cops in milwaukee they they got a call because one of his victims was out on the street like trying to get away and uh they showed up and domer convinced them to give the victim back to him so the cops like gave the victim back to geoffrey dommer and uh they took him inside killed him yeah pretty fucked up how did he convince them explain that he said he said that the the kid was his boyfriend and that he was just really drunk but in reality the kid i think he had like a handcuff on even um but the kid was like basically naked he was 13 years old i think 13 or 14 years old and domer had drilled into his head and
Starting point is 00:22:48 poured muriatic acid oh jesus christ onto his brain so he was like all fucked up from that probably also drug wait what he drilled into a kid's head yeah he did that to a couple people. And then the kid got a wet, oh, I can't. I don't know that I can watch that. I hate all the people. I haven't watched yet, but there's so many people who are like romanticizing Domer. And I'm just like, this is disgusting.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Who's romanticizing? I mean, TikTokers, two turn, Tony. I'm going to call you out two turn Tony. Yeah, two turn Tony. Yeah, two turn Tony. That'd be a good rough and rowdy. Explain to me what, like, what do you mean when you say romance? So he's a very, he's a very good looking actor.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Yeah. People are making like fan cam edits about it. And the aesthetic, they're putting on wife beaters in his weird glass. Yeah, people are making, like, edits about him and, like, kind of being domer apologists. His, like, his, like, aura, his, like, glasses and, like, what he wore was kind of, like, is, like, kind of coming back stylish now. But, like, it's so weird. I was watching the show. I was horrified watching the show.
Starting point is 00:23:46 We were, I was watching it last night. And I just, like, I actually had just watched the episode with the drill in the head. Yeah. I can't even imagine. And the fact that, like, he got almost caught so many times. Yeah, he should have been caught, like, dozens of times. Yeah. This happens every time there's like a serial killer thing, though, is that people on like TikTok or, you know, Instagram or whatever kind of romanticize them, especially when the guy who's playing Dommer is Evan Peters and he's like known for being very attractive.
Starting point is 00:24:12 And same thing with like Zach Efron when he played Ted Bundy. Yeah. They're just hot people. That would fuck. So I was thinking about being the actor that plays Jeffrey Donner because he does a good job. Yeah. Very good. Great actors.
Starting point is 00:24:23 I was going to say that the filmmaking for the whole show, it's like so accurate. They've showed like things from like the cases, the court hearings, like everything they've done to build around it has been so accurate. They're like astonished with like, I think there was like maybe one thing in the entire show that they like had to like not make it so accurate. So if you're playing Jeffrey Dahmer and it obviously took, you know, weeks if not months out of his life to get in character as this guy and he was just, you know, constantly on camera playing a psycho serial killer. And you have to get to a point in your mind where you're putting yourself in Jeffrey Dahmer's shoes and you're acting as if he would act. Like he totally immerses himself in the role.
Starting point is 00:25:07 That's got to fuck you up, right? Well, you know. You probably should go to therapy for a little bit after that to talk some of that out. Well, you know, what's the classic example of that? Heath Ledger, Joker. They were like, Heath Ledger was never the same after playing the Joker.
Starting point is 00:25:21 And that's why he went out how he did. Oh, there's like a famous clip of, um, what's his name? He played the Joker, like, back in the day. Jack Nicholus. Oh, yeah. Or McLeos. Nicholson. Jack Nicholson.
Starting point is 00:25:35 There you go. Nickley. He was, he was, they asked him about Heath Ledger and he like had said it. He was like, I told him about that. Like I told him. Like it's, you have to like prepare yourself mentally. I mean, I'm paraphrasing what he said. But it's like, it's like a thing.
Starting point is 00:25:50 You have to like, when you get into method acting, like you have to like put yourself there. But yo, this is wild. Okay. I don't know if this is the documentary. talking about if but this one's on to be it was released in 2001 and they named this shit fresh meat why would you name a documentary fresh meat we that's that's fucking insid it's about jeffrey dama jesus look at it bro it's called fresh meat brer jeez why would you do that i don't know i think that some people like speaking for myself i grew up just knowing about
Starting point is 00:26:28 Jeffrey Dahmer in theory just okay Jeffrey Dahmer's a serial killer he ate people psycho didn't really know any of the actual story so actually seeing the story play out it makes it a little bit more real and it makes me be like oh yeah maybe some of those like there's a lot of like flippant references to Jeffrey Dahmer in culture and art Eminem informed me of almost every serial killer yeah but like that was my context for it that's how you learned about like serial killers in America was Eminem yeah just like his rap songs about like he he had some albums when he was like before he went to rehab like relapse where he was just going off about crazy shit and i was just like wait like it it probably
Starting point is 00:27:10 had i don't know yeah that's how i learned about the evils of stepdads where's the other hand have you heard that song that's that's what that's how i learned how to hate my mom dad yeah just it made him fucked a lot of us up like you know just like we got we got brainwashed my generation We got just straight up brainwashed by M&M when we were growing up. My mom said I couldn't watch any more TV, so I just went to my room and blasted my mom by M&M. It's about like fantasy. Like his early shit,
Starting point is 00:27:42 it's just like nonstop fantasies about him like killing his baby's mom or like cutting his mom's head off. Pretty crazy shit. Like that's what we were inundated with in the mid-90s. Yeah, the funniest thing is I was actually listening to this day. I think he's a lyrical genius but some of his shit just didn't age well at all like he wrote a whole disc track
Starting point is 00:28:07 to his mom like like he wrote like could you imagine sitting down writing a disc track about your mother that shit is wild I mean he his like Marshall Mathers like he like just talks about
Starting point is 00:28:26 the like the most violent fucked up shit like walking a Rottweiler with its head chopped off with the AK 47 That's the M&M I just be passing On bro, it's just so bad Like it's so bad But like then every now that he'll do like
Starting point is 00:28:43 A renegade verse with him and Jay-Z Like he'll do some shit like that Where it's like bro just stay in that pocket bro Just stay there Like I don't know I just found a Reddit thread That's the worst M&M lyrics
Starting point is 00:28:56 Of all time I'm just going to go I'm going to go through some of these because they're pretty good. Let's do it. Oh, stay wide away. I actually love these songs. So fuck a chicken, lick a chicken, suck a chicken, beat a chicken, eat a chicken like it's a big cock, big a big cock. Or suck a dick and lick a dick and eat a dick and stick a dick in your mouth.
Starting point is 00:29:15 I'm done. You can fuck off. Fuck a fuck off. That's a pretty good one. How about this one? What song is that from? I don't know. Bees to flowers.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Some people find me a pollen. That's pretty good. I mean, you rap- Like, for example, he raps about the Central Park Strangler, I think it was, the preppy killer. Oh, my God. And stay wide awake. Like, I need more. I need more lyrics. I don't even want to say some of this shit.
Starting point is 00:29:43 You want some more? Yeah, I want to say it. Now you get to watch a leave out the window. Guess that's why they call it window pain. Just good and stand. That's a good song, though. It is a great song. that's all right because I like the way
Starting point is 00:30:00 he had some great he had amazing songs but you could tell that that was like stuff that was just going on in his head intense imagery and he had to get it out like he definitely had some like OC some of that shit sucks bro some of that shit sucks I don't give a fuck if this chick was my own mother I'd still fuck her with no rubber and come inside her and have a son and a new brother at the same time and just say that It ain't mine. I mean, I don't, I can't co-sign with the content of it, but that's, the wordplay
Starting point is 00:30:34 works. Like, oh, I'm saying he's a miracle genius. It's just some of the ideas are as. I hear one recently. He said, um, uh, like, uh, hold on, I'm gonna find it. I mean, but like, it's funny. I like, so every time I see Eminem nowadays, he's pretty silent and like, like, like, like, doesn't like when you see like him on hard knocks he's very reserved yeah do you think he's
Starting point is 00:31:00 kind of just walking around like yeah he said some crates like shit some heavy stuff way him down in the past i'm just going to stay in my lane like at any time he's afraid that somebody's going to come up to him be like hey remember when he said shove a fucking tonka truck up a little kid's but like he always when he's walking around it's kind of like he's just like i'm just going to stay in my lane i don't want anyone really to see me i don't like i know i'm like a second away from just getting, like I just exist in Detroit. I won't leave Detroit, I promise. Just leave you
Starting point is 00:31:29 alone. When you said, I was born with a dick in my brain, yeah, fucked in the head. My stepfather said that I sucked in the bed till one night he snuck in and said, we're going out back. I want my dick sucked in the shed. Was that true? Oh, my God. I mean, it was
Starting point is 00:31:45 the best music to exercise demons to because once you listen to that, you like, didn't feel like, you know. Yeah. This would you, this, okay, this is This is he said, I left my legacy hurt, fucking absurd. Like a shepherd having sex with his sheep. Fuck what you heard. That's good.
Starting point is 00:32:08 No, no, he had this one. Why not try to make your pussy wider. Fuck you with an umbrella and open it up while the shit's inside you. Yeah, I didn't, that was the one I, I didn't want to say out loud. Underground by Eminem. Underground, he has a verse where he talks about, like Hannah okay where is it six semen samples 17 strands of hair
Starting point is 00:32:28 found in the back of a van after the shoot with vanity fair Hannah Montana prepared to a lope with a can opener and be cut open like a cantalope on canopy beds and glad bags yeah glad to be back yeah like what you just threatened to like do terrible things Hannah Montana what about the entire song fact you know that song yeah that one that one was forced
Starting point is 00:32:50 that was him coming out of rehab like and he's just like they want you to say crazy shit again he was like some of the shit is so bad they say I rap like a robot so call me rap bot what my fillet is smoking weed
Starting point is 00:33:07 get back if the stakes are high because if you diss me I'm coming after you like the letter V I like this one now the plot has thickened now the plot has thickened and worse
Starting point is 00:33:25 because you feel like you've been sticking your dick your fucking dick in a hearse what oh my God hit Jason do you remember alphabet aerobics yeah by basic I think oh no no it was by um shit who was that by
Starting point is 00:33:40 I forget but I remember some of those lyrics they did a lot of wordplay with um with like just letters like the come after you one he goes I'm like the word basic only minus B.A my rhymes are like the word
Starting point is 00:33:55 kill set minus the K I like those I like anything that makes it it's like a brain puzzle but Emin had the best distracks nail a coffin the warning like playing those in the locker room
Starting point is 00:34:08 before a game like nail the coffee I say he got he got top five he got a top five disc track yeah but it's not even nailing coffee though it's bully oh it's bully true
Starting point is 00:34:19 Bull, he's fired, dog. So if we're doing Top 5 disc tracks, you've got to go No Vaseline's number one. No Vaseline is just to go distract. And then you got hit them up.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Yeah, go hit them up by Pac. Is that the one that Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia, some marked-ass bitches? Yeah. First off, fuck your bitch and the click you claim. just came out swinging and then uh honestly i would go um i think push the tea is his uh story
Starting point is 00:34:59 of adadon against drake i think that's that's the that's the third best of all time that might be controversial but that boy laid him down that was a moment y'all remember that or this is a two america's thing no i remember that so yeah if that says something yeah you're the guy My guy took down a giant That was what was so impactful about that moment It was like Drake is like the number one artist in the world And Push-D like Gotty
Starting point is 00:35:30 Yeah But then he had to beef with Meek Mill Drake did Am I getting that right that basically set up Meek Mill Like back to back That was before That was before The Push T1 was almost like
Starting point is 00:35:47 Uncomfortably mean wasn't it? it was like yeah but and that's that's kind of how this society has changed in general like if you listen to early disc tracks like cue pock even gnaz and j z with ether and like all that's it's it's it's like i remember what j z said uh to naz he said um uh skeeted in your jeep left condoms in your baby seat like just disrespectful shit And then when push the T does the disc track against Drake, like people were like, that's mean. It's like, I get it though. It's hella toxic, but the culture of hip hop has always been combative. And like, you're supposed to go at the next. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Didn't he, didn't he say that Drake got pissed off, pissed on in a movie theater? I don't remember that one. Yeah, I don't remember that line. I've got one more M&M lyric that we should bring up. I'm going to start listening to Eminem again and I'm going to be coming in with a totally different attitude every day. Like Eminem is good.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Like I like Eminem, but you also have to be able to go back and listen to it and be like these, some of the stuff is just crazy. Because he packs so many fucking words into every song. So he's bound to have some weird lyrics. How about this one from Rihanna?
Starting point is 00:37:07 Her song, Numb. I'm the butt police. And I'm looking at your rear, rear, rear. Oh, my God. No, we got to pull up I got to pull up ass like that Remember when he did that accent?
Starting point is 00:37:26 That was ridiculous What he was like What do you mean What? Big T, what's your favorite M&M? I don't think I've ever Intentionally listened to M&M Yeah, I can see that
Starting point is 00:37:42 Never intentionally You've just I've heard You've caught secondhand Eminem Yeah, I've heard songs like the mom spaghetti shit but I don't think I've ever like gone into Spotify and typed in M&M
Starting point is 00:37:52 to listen to it. Not even like my name is Again I've heard the song Yeah I have not sought it out What do you mean freeze But yeah Oh little housekeeping
Starting point is 00:38:08 Sorry to move on But if you see any profiles Of me on any dating sites Please report them I've been having a lot of people impersonating me. It's weird. Please stop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:23 And report them so that they get destroyed. It's kind of weird that people are pretending to be me. Destroyed. We're going to destroy these profiles. I've had those two where people are pretending to be me. I've had like, I've had only fans accounts made. Yeah, just delete them.
Starting point is 00:38:41 That are not mine. Like it sucks because people are like talking to other people pretending they're you yeah and that's just weird because then somebody's walking out there thinking like why did that happen do they say like they're billy and they're 23 years old and they work at bars or do they just use your face uh both because i've had it i've had it where it's like tinder profiles made but they're just using my face and it's like their name is yeah they're like straight up impersonating me so if you see those hopefully if you've been interacting with yeah it's not me it's not me and actually we're gonna i know we're about the grinder one you know what
Starting point is 00:39:15 don't don't delete the grinder one that's fine that's actually yeah that's actually me uh actually no delete that one i'm not on any dating sites destroy all of them just like report them they're impersonating me please because it's i i just assume that like if you if you work at especially this company you got to be extremely care if you use like a dating site like just assume that everything that you're saying is going to get screenshot i would never use a dating site because i like you don't think that's going to get tweeted Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, when Michael Chey, you remember when he got, he got like some screenshots put out there, the dude from S&L.
Starting point is 00:39:54 That's his name, right? Michael Chey? He got some stuff put out there from S&L and the person was acting like he was being like, I don't know, gaslighting or emotionally manipulative or whatever because he was being like very short with her and not really saying much. That's exactly why. It's because you just have to assume that everything that you say is getting put out there by somebody. I'm yeah that's like in my brain now yeah so if you see a big T profile out there or excuse me a Billy profile out there
Starting point is 00:40:24 first engage with it get some good screenshots from it send the screenshots to me and then ask them to delete it just report them it's gonna it's yeah it's just you know how many are how many are there I've seen about three like there used to be ones a while back but there was one recently that was like that's been people contacted me through Twitter DMs being like why did you like yeah it's
Starting point is 00:40:53 just like their group chats were like someone sent it into their group chat of an interaction that this random person had pretending to be me yeah and then I saw it it's like not cool so it's fake just now it's fake like Bill Russell used to always say like if you see my signature out there it's fake don't pay money for it because he doesn't do autographs Billy Billy doesn't do online dating sites. Right. So if you see a Billy clip out there, it's Fugazi. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Folks, we got breaking news. What's the news? The U.S. is facing a butter shortage. Those, oh, no. Big T. Your comments. I don't know why you went to me, first of all. I don't really like butter. I fucking love butter.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Now, if it's in, like stuff that it's in, I don't like put butter on. The secret to grits is no water, just all butter. I mean, you got to boil the grits. I know, I know. What are we going to do about mashed potatoes if we're facing a, like, I'm talking about? Why are we dealing with a shortage of butter? Like, what's going on with us?
Starting point is 00:41:58 Because the cows aren't making milk? No, so actually there's a cattle plague in India right now. A bunch of cattle are dying in India, and they're thinking it might hit America. I mean, I think something's trying to kill all the cattle. Is it brosolosius? It might be Broceph Actually it might be
Starting point is 00:42:16 Brosolosius What if I just Absolutely fucking nail the name of the cattle born disease That's taking down cows in India Just like off the top of my head Brosolophis Brosolosius Brosolosius
Starting point is 00:42:29 Is Hank Williams Jr. Brosolosius I saw it There was an article in the Washington Post Brochalosis infectious Brossilosis Unpasturized Dairy Products I don't know
Starting point is 00:42:41 This one's a tick-borne disease okay different one it's a real one though good good pull um but yeah maybe that says something to do with it or just it's not a people is that causing the but that's that's what's causing the butter that says it says um tight u.s milk supplies and short staffing at plants the uh the price of butter rose 24.6 percent well that's about on par with everything else and grocery is groceries rose in total of 13.5 so it's almost 11 percent higher than yeah we're down 100 million pounds of butter folks
Starting point is 00:43:17 that's a lot good that's yeah Thanksgiving is going to be tough yeah it's going to be real tough around here we're gonna you know what they're going to do they're going to start using margarine again I love margarine bacon grease I I eat margarine with a spoon yeah you would that does not surprise me at all country crock give it to me eat margarine with a spoon I used to put it on crackers you know what margarine is
Starting point is 00:43:38 isn't it like lard or some shit yeah it's animal fat I don't care it It tastes so good. People tried to get America into margarine like 25 years ago, 30 years ago, being like, oh, it's so much healthier. It microwaves better. So it's softer, right? Well, you know what people used to do and my step-grandfather used to do this? The bacon grease, they would pour the bacon grease in a, then put it in the fridge.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Yeah, you save it. Then you put it on bread. You can buy that now, bacon up. Oh, you can buy the grease? And it's basically like bacon, margarine, quote-unquote. and can use it to grease a pan or something. Yeah. It's just bacon large.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Mimi down in Greensboro, my grandmother, she used to keep a big, like a mason jar of bacon grease on the windowsill in the kitchen. We're really losing all the Great Depression, like, habits. Yeah. Like, you ever have- That all developed back then that now we're just like totally- Save all your shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:33 You ever have depression syrup? Oh, what's that? It's just like sugar and water mixed together. Like you make your own syrup at home. It's, um, and then you put it on. pancakes it's actually very delicious and it costs like no money whatsoever i'm exception i'm i'm very i'm concerned though about the about the butter shortage because butter is delicious and butter goes into everything well at least anything that's worth eating in my opinion right i am
Starting point is 00:44:59 trying to do the the the christmas abs day one no no i went to the i was so i went to the doctor last week i stepped on the scale i did not like what the number said And I said to myself, you know what, I'm going to do Christmas abs. So today, I had a salad for lunch. There you go. Let's go. So tell me more about the Christmas abs plan. Maybe we'll get more people involved.
Starting point is 00:45:26 I'm on it too. Hashtag Christmas abs. What we doing is we just, I'm not asking you to be a diet Nazi, but just Monday through Friday, have healthy meals. Cut out the sugar, cut out the fat. Some fat is okay, though. like there's some good fats out there's good fats cut out the trans fat is what you want to stay away from but cut out the sugars cut out all the nonsense just drink water over hydrate we're in the hydration station and you know on the weekends maybe one or two days pick a day and you can have a cheat mail
Starting point is 00:45:59 one one cheat meal a day until christmas you'll have your abs and you got to work out what one cheap meal per weekend one sheet mail per weekend yes so or just have a whole day but don't Benjee. You know what I mean? Don't binge eat. Because what we're doing is we're training ourselves to eat to live, not live to eat. Make sense? Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:21 So what if my diet plan was thus? Monday through Friday, I'm doing, I'm doing salad for lunch every single day. No dressing. Like dressing. No dressing? Like, you could dress a salad and it'd be just as fatning as a burger. What about, I dress it with red wine vinegar. Is that bad?
Starting point is 00:46:45 It's not as bad as it can get, but how I eat salad is just dry. You salt and pepper your salad. It's fucking delicious. And you put avocados in it and just chop up the avocados. It's a good fat. It's a great. It's a hundred percent is great. It's great for you.
Starting point is 00:47:01 But it's, that's the health, a lot of health foods in America are like dressed with other things. Like, and so that's what makes it so bad. Like baked potatoes, right? potatoes by themselves are fucking great for you it's one of the best foods in the world but then how we dress it with all the sour cream and cheese and all that shit it just makes it bad you know so one thing i really am now sticking to don't eat till lunch coffee nope nope but that's how you got to do it i disagree that's and then you can't eat after like eight o'clock just eight hours of eating you'll actually cut down on calories and it will happen
Starting point is 00:47:40 necessarily agree with calorie cutting though like you need like your body burns the only way to drop weight is to get a caloric deficit listen that's a fact i'm just saying down three pounds already you you can lose weight however but that billy's correct that's how you that's how you drop weight you you x because all a calorie is is just a unit it's a measurement of energy right and so it's how how much energy is packed into the source and so So if you want to drop weight, you have to exert more calories than you are intake. And another one is every workout at the end of it, do 50 burpees, just like not sets, just run in place and basically do 50 up downs and don't stop until you get all 50 done.
Starting point is 00:48:29 If you do that, it takes like 10 minutes. You get all those done, even quicker if you get better at it. But that will absolutely make you drop because burpees get your heart rate going to such a point. that it forces, it shocks your central nervous system that it's like, this something needs to change. That's something I learned from boxing. Yeah, definitely not doing that. Yeah, because you don't want to shock your central nervous system.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Nah, I don't want to do burpees. That shit is like PTSD. We used to do those for workouts and like, you know, you know how you do up downs and football when the team fucks up. That's PTSD. One thing that I am doing, though, like I don't know everybody can't do this, but I'm golfing like three. times a week, two, three times a week.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And instead of taking the cart, I'm just walking the course. Brough, that is a workout, man. Holy shit. That is like, it was like a few miles, isn't it? Like, I don't even, I don't even, I don't know the yardage. Yeah, it's miles. Yeah, you're putting some miles in and you're just walking and you're pushing the car. So I'm pushing the car.
Starting point is 00:49:27 But I am looking into getting one of those, um, electric carts. Oh, nice. They look, they're pretty little penny, but them shit's is smooth, brer. Yeah, that does look luxurious. Yeah. I'm not fortunate enough to live in a part of the country where I have a golf course next to me that I can walk next to or on all the time. But I did go for my very first hot girl walk last week on Thursday. So shout out Big T for put me on the hot girl walk lifestyle.
Starting point is 00:49:56 It was good, man. Yesterday was the first Hawker walk where it was like brisk outside. Oh, it was amazing. You went on one yesterday? Yeah. Oh, it was like 50 degrees. Oh, so you were dressing? You started dressing?
Starting point is 00:50:08 Oh, yeah, I had a hoodie and jeans. It was perfect. Yeah, those are the best hawker walks are when it's cold. I really do appreciate the Hocker walk now. I get it. Did you go on Thursday night? With the sunset. Sunset?
Starting point is 00:50:20 I was on a Hocker Walk when it was on a sunset. It was gorgeous. You got a little swaying the hips. Thursday night sunset was the best sunset I've seen since I've been in New York. It was delightful. Yeah. And it was, I was on a Hocker Walk and I walked outside and I have a view for my apartment of One World Trade. and it was like one wheel trade and then the sky it was wonderful that's when you go on a hot
Starting point is 00:50:41 or walk golden hour yeah I was bouncing I was bouncing on the street yeah do some window shopping so I'm I'm going to incorporate that into my into my Christmas abs lifestyle tip for the hot girl walk though for Christmas abs you have to engage your core while you're walking always because that's what's going to get you the Christmas apps because a hot girl walk without engaging your core like you're not going to get the same um oblique yeah i i feel like my my abs are there i have abs they're just underneath fat i think a lot of people like if you are moderately athletic why are you laughing at that area you don't think i have abs that what you said is absolutely true but it's just funny
Starting point is 00:51:21 to frame it like that yeah billy doesn't think it's true no i think it's true but that's like saying you have abs under my fat that's just your fat that means your body fat is too high yeah no shit yeah i'm saying i just got to cut that i got to cut the fat out and then i'll have abs green oh um just start drinking tons of green tea that helps you your metabolism so much okay that proved to be true i've heard about that but yeah i've so like when i get on my green tea kicks like i got so cut no no no because the theme it's actually so like trust me i've been i wrote article about it and two summers ago I got absolutely cut up as fuck and uh I I should share the pictures so people believe me you're on your Jeffrey Dahmer shit last summer what the fuck
Starting point is 00:52:09 but loki here's a dirty secret get a little nicotine uptake a little get it up there that's my problem I quit nicotine so now I'm now I'm fat when you're bulking just cut the nicotine when you're cutting Just get going Yeah, this sucks It sucks I will get I don't want to get Christmas abs though
Starting point is 00:52:35 Necessarily I want to lose some weight And feel like I'm in better shape I can't do any cardio Right I tried doing cardio last week On Thursday But the rib hurt too much
Starting point is 00:52:43 To like run So now I'm just focused on I'm going to hit the steam room Go spinning You can go spinning with me No because just the act Of like going up and down And breathing hard
Starting point is 00:52:53 It hurts like shit Oh do you want to hit the Russian bath again So yeah I could hit the Russian bath for sure, sweat some of this out, and then just change up the diet and then I'll have some Christmas, maybe not abs. But I'm kind of the mindset that if you're over the age of 35 and you get abs for the first time in your life, kind of weird. You never had abs? I don't think I ever truly had abs. I had like a four pack at one point, I guess you could say. Where are you
Starting point is 00:53:22 looking at me like that. Even when I was in the best shape of my life, probably 27, 28 years old, I was playing rugby at a high level and I was still heavy enough to the point where, like, I had some cushioning on my body. So it was still probably like 185 pounds. I just had way more muscle on my body at that point. So it was bigger, but definitely did not have like a six pack or anything. I don't like that judgment from Billy.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I also think it's a genetic thing with how you're. muscle composition is made up yeah true arian says no but i think it's true it wouldn't be weird if arian got abs because people recognize aryan as being an abs guy you give off abs vibes but thanks man um that's you you've made a couple of comments man i think you you kind of take a liking to me i appreciate it man but uh you're looking guy it's not i think genetically we are all made to be muscular our diets in this society make us fat and fluffy i'm not judging i'm just saying that's what the genetics say also i think some people tolerate carbs different than other people so like i think i should always like i should probably be a low carb guy all the time like i think
Starting point is 00:54:44 that's that diet works with me is there anybody out there that's listening to the show right now that that does one of those tests where they can like look at my blood and design a diet specifically for me and figure out what my body that's a real thing right yeah i did that shit in 2014 i didn't believe it at first but my man's like this is yo just try it so i did it i got on the phone with the doctor she was hell expensive but i got on the phone with the doctor and they gave me a list of all the things that were good for me and all the things that were bad for me even though it's like you know necessarily healthy it still wasn't really good for me so like for instance They say, like, have you ever ate a meal and you just feel bloated afterwards?
Starting point is 00:55:24 Like, the rule of thumb is like, if you feel like bloated after you eat, it's not necessarily good for you. So one of the things he said, and which blew my mind, I didn't believe him, was like, if I give you the list of these foods, you can eat as much as you want of it and you will cut weight. And I'm like, come on, fam. He's like, I promise you. So my big two things were, and he says your body changes every like five to ten years or something. like that but he said my big thing was a lamb and a butternut squash nice and so so I tested him out and I was like all right let's see I ate I don't know how much lamb and butter nuts I just stuffed myself so I couldn't eat anymore and the next day I lost a pound
Starting point is 00:56:05 like I woke up in the morning and I lost a pound it was like blew my fucking mind dog cherries was another good one for me I could eat as much cherries lamb as I want what are those almonds but everybody has like different composition and your your body will react different to different chemicals that's what i was saying so i did something a little similar to it not like blood work but i went on like it wasn't like a scale but it was like this machine where you step on it like your bare feet and you kind of like put your thumbs on this thing and you stretch your arms out and it tells you like everything from like how much like body fat you have like all this and that and then it would tell you like what you should eat and I didn't know that
Starting point is 00:56:47 your body like burns close to 2,000 calories a day just if you were just sitting down doing nothing yeah so I'm on a diet where like I have to eat more than that like 2400, 2,500 calories and like just about the same amount of protein as like my body masses so I was like 210 to start so I was eating like probably about 200 to 210 grams of protein per me like per day and uh i mean it's working i'm down like four pounds already like i feel better because i was just kind of like going home and just eating like one meal a day and it was bad for me like i could tell i didn't feel good but now i'm eating like three meals a day and i'm following like this nutrition diet and actually feels good like i like i don't feel bloated i i'm eating like good meals you get get back there
Starting point is 00:57:37 Billy didn't. Why are you showing me your dating profile pictures? That's crazy. That's weird. That's wild. I was listening to Avery. Yeah. No, Avery, I was listening to. I think that that's a lot of protein to be eating. Like, I don't know if I would have to be probably lifting weights if I want to eat that much protein. Because otherwise, like, where's your body do with all of it? It fucks up your digestive system.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Yeah. I don't know. It's working. I'm interested to see what will happen in, like, the next couple of months. But I am working out, obviously. it's like part of like the training regiment but yeah i don't know i realized last year because i got into pretty good shape until the summertime hit and then the summertime hit i went down to the beach i was the mountains were blue every day and uh just kind of like diet went completely out the window exercise went almost completely out the window and then i just got back immediately to where i was like a year ago at that point it took like a month and a half and then i lost everything so that's just
Starting point is 00:58:35 me getting old. So if I can get back, I guess start now if I want to be in decent shape by next summertime. That's kind of how my life works now. It's just like you get, you work your ass off and then for like a month and a half, you're healthy. That's about it. So before we get to the rest of the show, I want to talk to you guys about wealth front, wealth front, wealth front, this is a great deal. There's so much going on with the economy right now. Some people say we're in a recession. It might be a bear market. Inflation's out of control. we can't tell the future, but we can tell you about a great place to earn more on the savings that you do have that's Wealthfront.
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Starting point is 01:00:05 I don't know if I like that I bet you know what I'm going to do I'm eat rotisserie chicken for lunch every day this week I saw you doing that I kind of want to get in on that yeah you'll lose weight if you just eat rotissory chicken no carbs
Starting point is 01:00:18 That's it I love rotissory chicken Because it fills you up I'm thinking about doing the no sugar thing Okay I'm like the mincy no sugar Or a real no sugar No no sugar
Starting point is 01:00:28 The area and no sugar That's not fun though Do you go no sugar sugar during the week and then on weekends you sugar it up yeah no i don't i don't i try not to binge um when i'm when i want it it's just like i'll have like a burger or i'll have something that's bad you know uh but like no sugar so like it's really dry and it's really bland right it doesn't it's not fun until you retrain your test buds so like throughout the week i pretty much just am a robot i'll eat the same thing and with a little bit of um
Starting point is 01:01:03 Diversity. What about Halloween? What about what? What about Halloween? Yeah. The sugar. Oh, I'm not, I don't, I don't, I'm not like a sweets guy. So it's never really been hard for me.
Starting point is 01:01:16 So I don't like candy. The only sweets I really like is cheesecake, but it's just rare because it's too much sugar. It's just disgusting to me. I don't really like it. When I say no sugars, I mean like drinks. I'll have like Dr. Pepper's like my Achilles too. My killing you. Oh, fuck me.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Dr. Pepper is the one. I might do sober October. Beer is what gets me. I might do sober October. You know what I might do? What? I might do no sugar during the weeks after the commanders lose. Oh, punish yourself?
Starting point is 01:01:49 Keep me, I mean, that's a pretty good diet, I would think. That way I get a couple cheat weeks here and there. The thing is, my rotissory chicken, I just ordered it, comes with pita bread. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, throw that shit away. Yeah, fuck. Peter Brent's good, though. We should also play, yeah, about this.
Starting point is 01:02:08 What's the Beef brought to you by Arian Foster's Halloween song? Remember, the Halloween song? The kid's Halloween song. Oh, my kids made it. Yeah, okay, I got you. Yeah, this shit was lit, though. This song's awesome. Arian played this for us in his car when we were driving around Knoxville.
Starting point is 01:02:27 It's a fucking banger, certified banger. Can we put it in right here? Who got the counter for the kids? Who got the counter for the kids? Knock knock! Who got the counter for the kids? Knock knock knock. Trick or treating, welcome into Halloween.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Don't be scared when you start to hear the screams. Give me candy, we don't want no problems Give it to me, or you're gonna see a monster Put some candy on your doorstep, doorstep I'm surprised there isn't more yet Where is all the Reese's is? I'm about to tell us faces pieces Yeah
Starting point is 01:03:19 Where is all your kick-cats, huh? Open up your baggie, let me get that I want everything I like Open up and take a little bite Mobbing all night walking down the streets through the mist I think I'm gonna treat you with some tricks Say I like this Here's a little tip
Starting point is 01:03:39 Give me how you can't stop acting like a witch Knock dot Who got the candy for the kids? Knock, who got the candy for the kids Knock knock Who got the candy for the kids Knock knock knock knock knock knock knock knock knock knock
Starting point is 01:03:54 Who got the candy for the kids Knock knock? Who got the candy for the kids? For the kids? Ha-knock. Who got the candy for the kiss? I'm gonna have to show these, Trink and treat is what it is.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Gabblings and ghouls in the were-wows loom. Zammies from the graveyard coming here soon. Skeletons dancing with the ghosts in the streets where the mummies and the vampires feast. Blood dripping from the candy bag. Bees coming on my mouth like I'm candy man, huh? Hocus, focus. Are you in this, me breast-diction? Vroom, brum, on a broom.
Starting point is 01:04:29 They be divvying. Witches and wiggins and devilish disguises. Coming from the smoke while arises. I get real happy when it's Halloween night. I'm a pump of town full of fright. Right? We don't want no candy corn. We don't want no liquorish.
Starting point is 01:04:47 We don't want no candy corn. We don't need no liquorish. Knock, not. Who got the candy for the kids? Knock, knock. Who got the candy for the kids? Knock, knock. Who got the candy for the kids?
Starting point is 01:05:03 Knock knock, knock, knock, knock, knock, knock. Who got the candy for the kids? Knock, knock. Who got the candy for the kiss? Knock. Who got the candy for the kids? I'm gonna have to show this trick and treat is what it is. Give me your candy. I love it.
Starting point is 01:05:45 We have a beefer. Fire. All right, yeah, let's get into the beef. He has beef with you and I. No candy corn. Just beef. We also need teed off later. T you teed off about anything today.
Starting point is 01:05:57 This was a banner weekend for insufferable liberals, and I'm teed off about two of them in particular. All right, hang on. All right, let's get into insufferable libs. Who could it be? Who could it be? That's a cliffhanger. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:12 That's what they call a tease in the biz. It's a great tease. Capital T. Stay with us. I'm trying to think who that could be this weekend. Jack? Oh. Just kidding.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Did Jack Dwhimp out? I think, Jack. Guys. Hey, Jack. What's up, BFT? How's it going, man? What's up? Doing all right. How are you? I'm doing pretty well. I got some beef with you today. Okay, let's cook.
Starting point is 01:06:39 So I'm from Washington, D.C., eye-hard Washington commanders fan like you. And honestly, man, like, it just gets me tight hearing you talk about the team. Like, I skip past your part that you talk about the commanders on PMT like every single week when we lose. It's nothing but just, like, negativity and negativity and negativity. And, dude, we have, like, I think we have a top 10 receiving core in football. I'm like, you're just, you just are just nothing but negative. I've literally said that we have a top five receiving core in football.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Okay, well, I said that, I think I said that last week. Yeah, I think I said that last week. But there's, I mean, there really isn't anything to be happy about. What's there to be happy about? You tell me, pump me up. I mean, Jehan Dotson? Yeah, yeah, no, I said earlier in this episode, actually, like, Terry McLaurin, Jehan Dotson, I love those guys. Curtis Samuel, he looks good this year.
Starting point is 01:07:38 But, and then Brian Robinson, obviously, that's a, it's an amazing story that he's able to come back. I hope nothing but the best for him. He seems like a good player. But, dude, it's depressing watching this. Like, it's not even fun watching this team. They're not even fun bad. I know, man. Like, it's, like, I agree with you.
Starting point is 01:07:56 but I feel like in the we have something to look forward to in the future for the first time in a long time I think though like Carson Wentz is obviously not the long term solution and I think I think we're going to be seeing some Sam Howell action in the future and I'm just like you just got to look for stuff to get excited about like because we've just had so many years of misery I would love I would love for Sam Howell to get in the game I would love that
Starting point is 01:08:21 nothing more would make me happy I I just can't it's just It's very sad watching this team play because it's just, you know, if you're a fan of the Lions, they're playing exciting games. They're playing exciting types of, they're probably not very good, but at least they're scoring points. They're in competitive, weird, unusual games. The last couple weeks for the commanders has just been like, okay, we're going to, we're going to let you kick us directly in our asshole for 90 minutes.
Starting point is 01:08:51 And then we're going to, you know, mount a little bit of a comeback at the end, but just nothing really to even be excited. about. Yeah, no, I, I really don't want to blame the players exclusively, though, like fucking Scott Turner, fucking MAGA Jack Del Rio. Like, our coaching staff is just an absolute disaster and we're not doing anything about it. But my Super Bowl, my Super Bowl is going to be the next year's draft, I think. I think I'm just like looking forward already to let's get a quarterback. Let's get a new quarterback here. And obviously, Sam Hal, let's see what we have with him. But yeah, I just want, I want a new quarterback. Actually, you know what my real
Starting point is 01:09:32 Super Bowl is. My real Super Bowl is, it seems like we're getting closer and closer to the end of Dan Snyder. Yep. And so when that happens, oh, buddy, you're going to see 180 degree turn for me because I've, I've been around Dan Snyder for long enough to know that just nothing, nothing under his watch will ever truly really be good, which is sad to say. Yeah, I was about to say, my Super Bowl is when Dan Snyder dies in prison. But we got a little while until that comes about. I would even take like die in real life. That would be my Super Bowl too.
Starting point is 01:10:07 But yeah, no, just I love the pod guys. You guys are the best. Is Aryan on today or now? He's here, yeah. Arien, like, I'm sure you get this all the time. But you are truly the reason that I fell in love with football. That Pat's, that Pat's Texans playoff game, that was that was like one of the coolest experiences of my life like you were just absolutely
Starting point is 01:10:29 like the way you played the game was just absolutely unbelievable and you're an inspiration to me mad i appreciate that my brother kind words man of course of course yeah well you guys are the best also just just one quick thing for mad dog yeah what's up mad dog so like i know you're a browns fan and yeah impending deshawn watson is what do you like i'm just wondering what are you going to do uh i'm going to stop being a um public supporter of the browns after what is it week 13 uh no i think it's like week week eight or nine right no it was an 11 game suspension so 12 weeks yeah no i will i am not i mean i've said it i'm not cheering for deshawn watson i wish him the worst it really sucks that he's on my football team
Starting point is 01:11:16 um so i will probably again based on how this season is going the i don't know if i'll have a lot to root for by then anyways but yeah i'm checking out as a browns fan probably after week 13 or whenever he comes back after our by week um yeah it's just tough tough tough to be tough to be a uh girl browns fan um oh yeah just awful yeah no so i'm not i am actively anti dachan watson i want to make that pretty pretty clear for the people um yeah so i'll i've been live tweeting the browns games that will probably stop once disson watson comes back or jacobo bresette just starts going off and they have to the bench just on and Lawson because Jacoby Percept's just so amazing
Starting point is 01:11:57 which could happen. I believe in Jacoby. But yeah, no, I'm out. I'm out on Deshaun. Billy, how are you feeling about the Jets? Amazing. Victory Monday. Zach Wilson, I think, is a guy. I think he is the guy and the game was electric to watch.
Starting point is 01:12:13 I mean, couldn't have asked for a better outcome for Zach Wilson's return. Yeah, no, that was awesome. It was great to see them get a one. I was rooting for you, buddy. All right. Thank you guys so much. It was great to hop on. You guys are the best. All right, thanks, Jack.
Starting point is 01:12:25 I'll try to find a little bit of positivity to bring every week, but it's going to be tough, but I'll try. All right. Thanks, man. I appreciate it. We got another one. Are you guys good with that? That guy was too nice.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Yeah, let's do one more. Billy, you don't want the actual smoke because if somebody does get any meaner than that to you, you just get like angry and start screaming out. Well, yeah, sometimes that's... I tell them that they're wrong. That's what the beef's about. It's nice. sometimes it's nice to like have some beef and have some sweet some cathartic just yelling at somebody
Starting point is 01:12:58 yeah no that was nice about what he said about arian like sometimes it's nice anyone else thinking about waffle house right now oh yes stop we just had this whole conversation about how are you gaming yeah this is gaming what's up gaming doing well how are y'all doing today doing great what's your beef All right So my first beef is with UPFT Oh So I came from North Carolina To y'all's last punk show in New York
Starting point is 01:13:28 Okay And it seems like y'all had Billy out there Y'all brought Caroline out there But what are we doing to get Arian out there? Oh That's a good question Aaron would you want to perform with us ever Uh yeah
Starting point is 01:13:42 What's all you guys do cover songs? Yeah basically like if there's a A cover song that we can play as like a rock band that you could perform with us? What would it be? Hmm. I'd have to give me two minutes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Let me think about that. We'll give you two minutes. I'd be down to get out there. Well, I had a follow-out with Pup Punk then. Limited dates. When are y'all going on tour again? I'm having withdrawals now. It's tough.
Starting point is 01:14:13 Thank you for coming to the show, by the way. I appreciate that. We were going to be playing last weekend in Ocean City, Maryland unfortunately got canceled because of the hurricane and i looked at the weather in ocean city i should have done this on saturday we could have played we could have played saturday i don't know about the rest of the festival because it was a friday saturday sunday thing so maybe that didn't tell the entire story but i was looking at the weather down there and i was like damn i could be on stage right now uh so we weren't able to do that the tricky thing is with us we've got so it's me
Starting point is 01:14:43 Rohn, Robbie, Frankie, and Nick. And we all do different things at the company entirely. So none of us are involved in like the same podcasts or shows or really groups of content. So it's really hard for us to get time where we all have it free at the same time where we're together. That said, we do want to play more shows and we want to do another album. That's probably our next goal is to put it out an album. But if we do have some some wintertime shows here in New York will probably do that. And then if we get asked to play shows for like the college football tour like they did
Starting point is 01:15:21 last year, I think we'd be down to do that as well. But that's kind of where we're at right now. It's tough to get everybody on the same page though. Yeah, the one in New York was dope. Getting to meet everyone and I mean, just walking up to the bar and getting to see all the bar still with people was pretty sick. So definitely having withdrawals. And Aaron, like I said, I think you'd be perfect up there. Got it. two songs that I would that I would love to perform
Starting point is 01:15:44 because y'all just do rock covers right we could do anything okay well let me I'll I'll pause on that but the ones that I would love California dreaming okay and then enter the sandman
Starting point is 01:15:59 would you sing in or sandman yeah I grew up on that that's my shit give me a taste no give me just a little taste no just give me a
Starting point is 01:16:14 we're off to never never lay let's hear it Aaron I take that no oh fuck you damn bro dreams of war dreams of lives
Starting point is 01:16:27 yeah okay we'll get you on stage for that that'll be lit we'll get you to do anything that'd be amazing that'd be fun the second beef is with Billy what's up dude
Starting point is 01:16:38 well you like so i have a question about the merch competition yeah so do you just not trust your fans or are you scared of hank what do you mean so you know we we were supporting you trying to get you to you know second or third buying merch you know all that stuff but then you at the very end made a deal no so if you i made it so if you look at the if i didn't make that deal any that deal no matter what made me more money than if I got third. So it was either like, if you looked at all the possible outcomes, if I didn't do the deal with Hank and Jake,
Starting point is 01:17:17 I would have ended up missing out on money. What if you just trusted your list and they could have gotten you to second? Well, I would have if they, well, if they got me. So basically Hank, the spread of numbers, Hank knew and he knew he would never win, but he had access to numbers.
Starting point is 01:17:34 we didn't. And basically, he really screwed Jake. I was a benefactor in the deal. Basically, the spread between Hank and I and I and I was way too big to traverse unless, you know, there was a, like a push that wasn't possible. Yeah. So that's what he was asking, though, is like, why didn't you trust Billy's list to take to traverse you over that gap and have you end up in second place? Because I had a gap of knowledge that I now know, um, and, And I was pushing it nevertheless because even if I did get second, it was like beneficial for me to do the deal because if I didn't get included in that deal, Jake and Hank were going to make a deal and I'd gotten screwed. So I know it was all shady, but in that, if you were in my position, you'd realize that of all the possible outcomes, if I were to not make a deal, then they'd make the deal and I'd get screwed out of basically free money. Okay.
Starting point is 01:18:31 Well, no, I'm a competitor. yeah well I was a competitor like I wouldn't want to compete I was going to compete but I wasn't going to stop competing like making the deal didn't stop me from competing it sounds like you weren't that much of a competitor
Starting point is 01:18:45 the only one who got screwed over was Jake by Hank well and you because you didn't trust your list and your fans and your family believing in you that's a good point I'll actually write up a whole an explanation for Billy's list that I'll put into the group chat of the like the multiple events that could have happened if I didn't take you. I'm sure that'll go well. No, they're very understanding. All right. And they're very intelligence. Well, I'm just saying
Starting point is 01:19:08 like I feel like I handpick them. There's a little, there's a grain of truth into what he's saying to you, which is if you had truly trusted to listen, if you were a competitor and you really were about that grind set, then you wouldn't have taken the deal. If I spent money buying merch and I was like, I'm doing this to support Billy and then you cut that deal, I'd be teed off. But you know, the deal, the deal wasn't, like it's, it, I still was trying to win. Well, no, you were guaranteeing yourself
Starting point is 01:19:37 the, the safest option. Not necessarily, basically Jake and Hank were going to try to push. If you had one, if you had come in first place, that deal would have cost you money. No, because that wasn't one it was dependent on. What was it? It was dependent on whether Jake, Hank, if Hank
Starting point is 01:19:56 broke into the top three which basically he he used information that we didn't have and then sort of twisted it to make us like strong arm us and i mean that's how he made the it's it's a complicated situation i just sort of wanted to i knew that we compete but i wasn't going to the deal never affected my push like it never affected how hard i was going on selling okay so i know i know it's kind of shit like I mean blame Hank it's just fucking annoying the whole the whole situation the fact that he created a competition made us go hard on it and he had like it's it's just ridiculous so Hank and Billy rough and rowdy want to know each uh he'd never do we've there's been discussions he'd never do that okay all right well I think you bring up
Starting point is 01:20:49 some good points I don't think that Billy's willing to concede but I think that points were made I'll put it I I had trust in the list and because of that the deal had to do with literally if I didn't make the deal I was also taking advantage of Jake because Hank was getting it done so like if I didn't hop on
Starting point is 01:21:09 it would be a stupid decision we're over explaining now but okay got it that's all I had I appreciate it I listen to the podcast every week it's I love the long podcast I commute about an hour both ways into work so it definitely
Starting point is 01:21:23 helps there so you know you guys are great keep it up and uh big tea let's go braves yes sir about to clench it up tonight absolutely love it you all have a great one take care man thanks bro okay we got any more beef do you guys want to do more we can do well let's let's not do another one let's go to let's just do teed off let's do teed off yeah there's been an uptick of beef recently has there's that time of year yeah people are people are getting beefy did we get that guy's real name? Gaming? Gaming. His name is gaming. Well, yeah, I didn't know. But, uh, because I didn't, uh, the North Carolina accent like he has is, I think my favorite. It's a good accent. I love,
Starting point is 01:22:07 I love that voice. It's a, it's got some similarities to Tennessee. Yeah. There's a North Carolina accent. Yeah, like mountains the way he was talking. Oh, okay. I don't. All right. Is it like an Appalachian? Appalachian. Yeah, like it's, it's a very distinct southern accent. like there's kind of that Georgia Alabama then but North Carolina I like It's not slow Yeah not it was the way his voice sounded
Starting point is 01:22:39 Like I just like that accent Anyway So I told you all there were two Insufferable Liberals That I'm upset with It's actually wait wait wait wait wait real quick though I mean this is like our most listened to segment ever that we ever put out
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Starting point is 01:24:59 dog's rope hat. 3436. Okay, Big T. What's, what are you teed off about Big T? So in the time since we've, uh, teased it, there's actually been a third that's added to the list. So there's three of the worst liberals on the planet that really have, have me teed off this week. And I'll go from least consequential to, or the least upset it made me to the most. Okay. Uh, So Keith Olberman yesterday, there's a video of Max Scherzer just like looking like a fucking psycho before his start against the Braves. The Mets obviously lost all three games in their biggest series in seven years. They got. And Blueprint is going to get married to Mrs. Matt.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Uh-huh. Yeah. Buster only was dancing, the whole nine. So this this account sports talk ATL.com quote and said, Max Scherzer Pete Alonzo, handshake gift and says getting psyched before losing in the biggest moments of their lives, which they did. Keith Oberman responds. Is that really Max Scherzer's biggest moment of his life? Well, maybe, I mean, he won a world series. Okay, biggest moment of this season.
Starting point is 01:26:02 Pete Alonzo, that was the most consequential moment of his career, for sure. Keith Oberman responds, both teams are in the playoff. Scher has a ring, to your point, and two no-hitters, and Alonzo won consecutive home-run derbies. What an accomplishment. But go on about how a game against a team whose fans are so stupid that the Tomahawk chop is the only song they can remember the words to is, quote, the biggest moment of their lives.
Starting point is 01:26:24 for Keith Olberman of all people to talk about like other people being stupid is very rich you got to admit though that's a pretty good burn that the only lyrics
Starting point is 01:26:35 you can remember are the O well if the Tomahawk well if it made sense and wasn't derogatory towards an entire region of people I thought we were trying
Starting point is 01:26:43 to be inclusive in 2020 it's neither here nor there but for this dip shit to be and by the way they did go on to lose the next two games they were swept and swept out of the division lead
Starting point is 01:26:53 So that one I just found Just came across my timeline Keith Overman sucks That's a surprise to no one The second is our alerts on For Keith Overman I don't This tweets from 23 hours ago
Starting point is 01:27:06 I just saw it now The second is Lena Dunham Who I don't know if y'all saw her tweet No Yo you haven't seen this tweet No Oh it's an all time I don't follow Lena Dunham
Starting point is 01:27:16 No it was shocking to me But here's the tweet from Lena Dunham Yesterday at 11th Do you think I'm a Lena Dunham fan yeah okay um she tweets when i go i want my casket to be driven through the n yc pride parade with a plaque that reads quote she wasn't for everyone but she was for us who can arrange wow uh thank you thank you lena yes straight right uh i don't know i think she's queer um that tweet made its rounds and uh
Starting point is 01:27:49 the the gays are actually not happy with that at all of course not They want no part of that. It's like, um, I want, I want my, uh, I want my, uh, I want my ashes to be put inside fireworks and shot up into the sky above fire island in a giant display that just says ally. Also, the, the who, the who can arrange like, yeah, for in 40 years in the future, can you go ahead and make sure that like, whoever's in charge of that now, put this down? Just, uh, again, one of the most insufferable people on the planet. Um, but then this part, I don't know if you're going to allow to be in the show. We may have to cut it. Okay. Um, did you see what Billy Eichner said.
Starting point is 01:28:29 I did not. So his movie did terribly this weekend. Okay. Um, and he tweeted, uh, he goes on this, this tweet thread about what a great movie it is. And he made the movie. I hope he's proud of it. I hope it's good. Um, but in response to the movie not doing well, he said, that's just the world we live in, unfortunately. Even with glowing reviews, great rotten tomato scores, an A cinema score, etc. Straight people, especially in certain parts of the country, just didn't show up for bros, and that's disappointing, but it is what it is. The next tweet, this is the most wild, and this is what gets me teed off. Everyone who isn't a homophobic weirdo should go see bros tonight. You will have a blast. And it is special and uniquely powerful to see this story on a big screen, especially for
Starting point is 01:29:16 queer folks who don't get this opportunity often. I love this movie so much. go bros. Billy Eichner, and this is the part that I don't know if you're going to leave in. I know he was on y'all's show, whatever. I don't want to piss off people who have, guess who come in here. This guy is like, first of all, what list celebrity would you say he is? Billy Egnor, probably, I don't know. Because it ain't A.
Starting point is 01:29:39 I'm not good at the whole list thing. I'd give him B or C. Yeah, probably B list, I would say. Sure. putting a celebrity of that level in like a movie that is marketed to an already smaller audience and then saying it's the fault of quote homophobic weirdos who and well and and did he say wait did he did he did he didn't say it was the fault of homophobic weirdos he said go see he said go see it if you're not a homophobic right which is and he also said which is evil yet
Starting point is 01:30:16 brilliant at the same time. And I think that's what the left does as a whole is like, if you don't do X, you are a homophobic weirdo. And it's a circular argument. You can't argue against that. Wait, that's an assertion. I don't, I don't think that's what he's saying. I don't think he's saying if you don't go see it, you're a homophobic weirdo because I'll be honest. I think that's damn near a quote. No, no, he's saying if you're not, reread what he said. He's, he's imploring people who aren't homophobic weirdos to go see it. Okay. He's different from saying, if you don't go see it, you're a homophobic weird. Okay, this is a quote, straight people, especially in certain parts of the country, just didn't show up for bros.
Starting point is 01:30:55 That is an absolute play. I actually watched bros. But that's not a hundred percent attributable, like straight people are not required to go see your movie. Make a good movie. He's not implying that they are. Oh, that's wrong. No, no, no, I won't let you say that. That's wrong.
Starting point is 01:31:10 That is what he's saying. I know. I'm listening to your quotes. so much context from what he said and just running with it and that's literally not what he said at all. So he said, straight people didn't show up
Starting point is 01:31:22 especially in certain parts of the country. Right. That is probably objectively true. Right. But that's saying it's because that straight people didn't want to go see your movie because it's a gay or mom-com.
Starting point is 01:31:36 No, no, no, no, no. I'm not going to let you get away with that. As someone who saw the movie. No, he might be, wait, wait, big team. He might, he might, In fact, just be saying straight people didn't want to come see my movie. You don't think there's a hint of this movie did not perform as it was anticipated to because straight people would not go see a gay rom-com.
Starting point is 01:31:58 I think that he might be saying that. Okay. So we agree that. That is the, that's an accurate inference. The other things you're saying, it's not accurate. He's saying, he's saying that straight people. Am I taking crazy pills? That's what I've been saying this whole time.
Starting point is 01:32:08 No, he's saying that straight people did not want to go see this movie because it's a gay rom-com. That sounds to me like that's the assertion that he's making. Yes. I think he might be right about that. I think it might be the fact that this guy is a B or C list celebrity whose whole schick is like being really annoying. And they put him in a movie and not that many people went to see it because people, a lot of people don't go to movies to begin with.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Since I'm the only one on this podcast who's actually seen the movie. I'm the only one on Grindr. Yeah. um so i saw the movie i watched it because we were interviewing him and part of my job sometimes to you know get some background information uh so i watch it uh it's funny it is funny uh but you know a lot of some of the jokes and stuff is not you know directed towards me so i think this movie is actually can do really well on streaming services because it'll be able to target individuals and actually i think it's a revolutionary movie in this new landscape like matt damon was
Starting point is 01:33:13 talking about we don't have these new box offices the box office payouts aren't as big streaming we don't you don't have that second payout from the DVD release but I think this will get a lot of streams when it hits streaming services because you'll have a more direct contact with individuals who like this stuff that's like you know when they put uh like when a lot of comedians they put stuff online and it reaches the audience that it's best selected to because they find it whereas these movie theaters it's more of a wide net and it's probably doesn't do as well in the box office because the opportunity cost to play one movie is too expensive to let's say let's say 10 people in each town go to the movie theater but you know that 10
Starting point is 01:33:56 people doesn't cover the cost of playing the movie whereas on a streaming service the the individual cost to get for one play is much less and it'll get targeted it'll do better in those services so I'm definitely using the wrong uh usage of opportunity cost but just like the incremental value of having to put on the movie so I think it will do well it just wasn't a movie built for the box office because it was pretty selective
Starting point is 01:34:22 do you think a movie about Billy Eichner being a straight podcast host in New York City does much better than that I have no idea that's not what the movie's about yes it is it's a rom-com he's a gay podcast host
Starting point is 01:34:38 oh you said straight right I'm saying if the movie is the same except he's straight does the movie do much better. I mean, I don't know how to answer that. With the, with the, um, because a big part of this movie, a big part of this movie is that it's like a gay rom-com. Yes. Right. I would say that he's probably accurate in that a lot of straight guys don't want to go see a rom-com about gay guys. What people like, well, the thing is a lot of rom-coms have sex appeal and that's how they get a lot of like straight dudes in the theater. You know how, you know why a lot of straight dudes go to watch rom-coms? And this is not
Starting point is 01:35:16 like a complete blanket statement, but a lot of gay guy or a lot of straight guys go to watch rom-coms because they're on a date with a girl. And so they want to watch whatever movie she's going to like. So that's what I was going to. What's the last. So I blame women actually. What's the last rom-com that Billy Eichner's movie didn't do? What's the last rom-com that came out in theaters and did like exceedingly well? That's a good question. Uh, I think the big six. I think the Big Sick. Would you call that the big sick? Wait, wait, wait, is the notebook a rom-com?
Starting point is 01:35:47 No. No. Right. Rom. It's a rom. The Big Sick was what, six, seven years ago? Yeah, I think it was like 2017. So it's been a long time.
Starting point is 01:35:57 I mean, that's just the first one that comes off to the top of my head. What's that Adam Sandler movie with? Just go with it? No, wait. That's. With the bathing suit model? Paddington 2. The one with Bar.
Starting point is 01:36:10 Is it Barbara Feli? Yeah, that movie. kicks ass yeah Brooklyn Decker yeah so like just go with it that's a rom-com right yeah okay so like Brooklyn Decker's in it Jennifer Anderson
Starting point is 01:36:22 like that's the appeal I mean I consider myself a rom-com this is the top grossing as of what was this article written okay July 21st 2002 these are the top
Starting point is 01:36:38 this is the top 10 box office rom-coms. My Big Fat Greek Wedding in 2002. What Women Want, 2000. Hitch, 2005, Pretty Woman, 1990. There's something about marrying 1998. For easy-rich Asians, that's pretty recent, 2018, The Proposal, 2009, Sex in the City movie, 2008, Runaway Bride, 99, knocked up 2007. Rom-coms don't really do that well. Like, nobody's rushing to the movies to see a rom-com like that Anyway, so I agree, but crazy rich agents, which was a few years ago, did really well. Very specifically about a minority community did very well.
Starting point is 01:37:19 So I think that argument kind of goes out the window. Also has a huge franchising opportunity with slot machines. Oh my God. Yeah. That must already want $800 on that fucking slot machine. Yeah. When we was at Lake Charles. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:36 I was seeing him everywhere. I was like, wow. I wonder what makes more money, the movie or the movie? slot machines. Probably slot machines. I think that just if you look at it, it's pretty simple to me. If it's broken down by demographics,
Starting point is 01:37:48 I think a lot of straight people, it doesn't really get them off their ass to go to see a rom-com that's about gay people. Now, I mean, what if, gay people, what if the movie,
Starting point is 01:38:01 I'm sorry, go ahead. I was going to say just like, what if the movie was starring Adam Sandler and some other, like another straight, actor that is like super who would be like oh wait did they make that movie you're talking about i now pronounce you chuck and larry but those straight guys pretend to be gay in the movie what
Starting point is 01:38:18 if they made the rock and adam sandler do a rom-com where they're banging and they like it's them meeting each other and falling in love i would guess it does pretty well probably those people are movie stars it would probably do a little bit better broke back now i'd go see that i've go see that which is exactly when you make a movie with movie stars that people want to go see it will probably do well. Yeah. When you make a movie with a guy whose whole bit is yelling at people on the street on TikTok, might not do as well.
Starting point is 01:38:47 I think Big T is just still, he's got some resentment towards Billy Eichner's producer getting into a fight with him on the side. Yeah, no, no, his producer is a piece of shit, but I would have never brought it up again if it weren't for him going on this tweet tirade about how it's everyone else's fault that his movie didn't do well. Definitely all limbsy. Another inference didn't say that. I think it'd be stupid to say.
Starting point is 01:39:06 That is what he's saying. It would be dumb to think. find it to find me the quote i i can't i can't keep going around like that i read you the quotes they're they're definitely all limousy liberals it would be dumb to think that in this case uh it didn't have anything to do with the fact that it was a gay romcom i think a lot of people didn't go see it because it was a rom-com they weren't interested in seeing it because it was rom-com about gay people i think it's very i think if you hear him say everyone who isn't a homophobic weirdo should go see this movie and you think he's not at all blaming an entire swath of people,
Starting point is 01:39:44 then that's that's fairly ridiculous in my estimation. The homophobic weirdo thing is like it's a little, it's a little weird for him to put out there. But I at the same time, but you also got to you're looking at from his perspective, right? He's, is he gay in real life? Yes. All right.
Starting point is 01:40:00 So like, he's probably getting a lot of hate for making a gay rom-com, right? So like, like, I don't think so. perspective bro from his like i got buddies right and reluctantly i say this but i got i got dudes who who grew up in the south and like being homosexual is just odd to them and they're like something's wrong with you i got i got i got real people who feel like that and they're good people but that's just how they were raised and that's how they were born so like he's still he's probably still fighting a lot of that crowd because there's still that crowd is out there i'm not saying whether the majority or the minority but there's still that crowd out there
Starting point is 01:40:38 So you still have to deal with that. So like he's promoting his movie and you got a section of a society who's like, this is sinful. Like this is sinful and you're promoting sin and you're going to like that shit is he's probably just addressing that crowd. Well, I'm not denying that those people exist. They certainly do. But like on Twitter a and social media platforms which lean very far left like everybody's
Starting point is 01:41:03 like this movie isn't appealing. You cast a C list celebrity. as the lead in it and it wasn't like nobody is rushing to see that movie i don't disagree with her so so so i think the crowd that even the crowd that is saying they didn't like it is not the one that you're talking about no i was talking about just coming from his perspective and why he's so like pfd like he's a little aggressive with his uh promotion right there but like i don't i don't think he's blaming people i just think he's like responding to people who are fucking with him.
Starting point is 01:41:38 I think at the same time, he is coming from a place where this movie was like impossible to get made because there never really been a market that anyone's ever tried to go after in terms of like a gay focused rom-com about bros, which is why he named the movie bros. And it was probably difficult to get made, difficult for people to like believe that there could be a market out there. So he's probably pretty pissed off that that there wasn't that big of a market, at least in the theaters about it. And he's probably thinking to himself, well, there's never going to be another romantic comedy made about two gay guys ever again because this has shown that the market won't sustain it. So he's probably pissed off about that too. I don't think it's as blamie as Big T's making it out to be. If we record a podcast about something very niche that we all think is very good, like we make him, we're like, that's one of the best podcasts we've ever done. And nobody listens to it. That is our fault that we did not.
Starting point is 01:42:37 make a podcast that appeals, our job is to get people to listen to it. And if people don't listen to it, you didn't do a good enough job of making something that people wanted to listen to. Okay, what if we do a podcast that is about the University of Tennessee, right? You're, you're, no, no, no, just hear me out. We make a podcast that's about the University of Tennessee. And then nobody really listens to it. Maybe a few thousand people listen to it. And then we say I blame I blame all the people out there there's a lot of people that didn't go to the University of Tennessee that did not listen to this podcast I think you're making my argument does that make sense in your head no I guess we're saying that some of the same things then because
Starting point is 01:43:21 what Eichner is saying is that because to me that sounds ridiculous he's saying that straight people didn't show up to go see his movie I think by and large that's true yeah I don't think he's saying that like every straight person should have seen his movie or you're homophobic if you don't he's just saying that they didn't do it i think there are very clear undertones of those things like you're a homophobe if you didn't go see my movie not necessarily but that the reason it did not perform well is because of straight people which when you lay it out like is true though he's not wrong that that that undertone that he's saying is what we're saying that it's but he's not saying it's it's it's there's difference between like blaming and just like
Starting point is 01:44:06 really understanding the context in which homosexuality is viewed in America and that is his point. The correlation is not the causation of any movie that does poorly. It's because straight people didn't go to see it. Well, it's more of like a passive responsibility. Like straight people weren't actively like avoiding it but it was just a passive. They didn't go see it.
Starting point is 01:44:29 So you're agreeing on the same thing. I think Big T's right. Like if a movie doesn't do well at the box office, yeah you can probably blame straight people for not going to go see it by the way i guarantee that's actually completely fair that's what like i haven't checked out the demographics yet but that's what like 85% of america identifies as being heterosexual way by the way this i don't know what the numbers i guarantee this movie does well in streaming services which i we're all like jumping the gun here like no movie is it a good movie it's a funny movie and if you're like
Starting point is 01:44:59 if you're it will get to it will get to the gays who will watch it through the streaming services it will get to them I love rom-coms but I'm never going to go see a rom-con in the theater right rom-coms aren't necessarily like a movie theater experience that are as like a must go
Starting point is 01:45:16 it's good for a couch great for a couch it's net fixing chill yeah type thing yeah it's like according to the most recent Gallup poll LGBT identification in the United States is 7.5 It will get to that 7%. I thought it was one in 10.
Starting point is 01:45:36 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, way, of the population. And that's, I thought it was 11. No, that's way more than it was very recently also. Hang on now, 7.1% consider themselves to be LGBT, 86.3 say that they're straight or heterosexual. So I was right. That's more, that's the 85%. So where's the other 17%?
Starting point is 01:45:56 That's the last one. 6.6% do not offer an. opinion. You know what's we had it. I imagine taking a poll and be like I have no opinion. So our football team had a sensitivity training class for freshman year and they're like reading us to sit there like look to your left. No, they're like one out of ten of you are homosexual and everyone just looked around.
Starting point is 01:46:21 That's a bad joke, but it was, you know, imagine a bunch of 18 year old kids come out of high school from vastly different places and they're just told that there's like there's there's probably a bad way to phrase it for like a yeah for like an 18 year old yeah room out of like the 20 people the class like two mm-hmm it's like we it's like we got what a yo so so I do I blame I blame straight people for uh for not showing up to billy actors movie also blame straight people for not showing up to Washington commanders games that's why there's only like 30% attendance but it's that's straight people's fault Like, let's be real.
Starting point is 01:47:01 They need to start showing up for that. Yeah. But Big T. It sounds like, it also sounds like, showing up for the Topka movie. It really, uh, made you upset the Billy Eichner.
Starting point is 01:47:12 It didn't make me upset. I find it ridiculous, but. Okay. Well, maybe we can, maybe we can watch that movie together at one point. Uh,
Starting point is 01:47:24 I'm definitely not watching. Oh, so you're homophobic weird though, I guess. Yeah. Basically, I think you should watch that. watch it.
Starting point is 01:47:33 I mean, it's basically, it's a good, it's like, there's funny bits, it's funny, and then there's some bits where you're just like, that's not for me. Okay. All right. It sounds like a lot of rom-coms. I think maybe the problem is he made a rom-com and rom-coms. Yeah. They just don't really do it for me.
Starting point is 01:47:50 Very few rom-coms do. Kid me, that's my bag. I love rom-coms. I know. I know. Did you see this movie on opening weekend? You're homophobic weirdo. No, I'm just not going to go.
Starting point is 01:48:04 It's rare a movie moves me to get up out of my house to go see. That's my entire point. My family was raving about it. Yeah, Top Gun. Top Gun really got America going to the theater. Like, that's probably the first movie in a long time that got people to get up and go to the theater. I might watch it again. But again, there's that sense of like a movie going experience.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Oh, Avatar 2 will probably get people going. Oh, my brother. It is going to happen. It's going to be an explosion. Can't wait. It's going to be no homophobes there, that's for sure. Nope. It'll be straight people, gay people, queer people.
Starting point is 01:48:38 We're all going to join hands together and say, let's leave Earth. Furies. Leave earth. Oh, furries, yeah. Oh, you know who's really going to be there. Everyone who are the fan of the Navi porn on Porn Hub. What's the Navi porn? The people in the movie.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Oh, they're Navi. Yeah. Okay. There's tons of that. Navi porn, there's not, there's like a Reddit thread or something? I just, it's, it was, I was, there was like a graphic of like, internet anthropologist. There was a graphic. Billy watched Navi porn.
Starting point is 01:49:11 No, I didn't. There's a percentage of like different categories in which ones were the top watched. And like in the top 20, Navi was like, like, I think 15 or 14. I would, I would absolutely, you know, do my thing with a Navi, with Navi lady. See? Absolutely. All right. Well, we'll see you guys on Thursday. Love you guys.

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