Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - NANODOSE: HQ Trivia ft. Scott Rogowsky
Episode Date: February 28, 2023On today's episode of Nanodosing, we welcome on the former host of HQ Trivia, Scott Rogowsky (39:47). You'll hear everything from the rise to the fall of the very popular trivia game that was. Also, a... winner of the 100th t-shirt contest is drawn. All of this and so much more on today's show. Make sure to tune into MACRODOSING, every Thursday 12am EST.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing
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order to purchase. Please use responsibly. All right, welcome back to nanodosing. We got a special
guest coming in in a little bit. It's Scott Rogowski, Quiz Daddy from HQ trivia. You might
remember him from your phone, from looking at him on your phone for probably, what would you say
like the height of HQ trivia was
the fall winter of
2018 sometime
around then
really popped off. Did you guys ever win any money
on it? I won
once and it was like
$4 or something. I don't recall
if I ever got it
or like because there was a whole thing you had to go through to claim it
and I think I may have just like not done it but I won
once. You still won. How big was that rush?
Oh, it was incredible. It was the best.
Winning that $4 felt better
than like, I don't know, a lot of stuff I've done.
$400.
Like winning, that $4 only because you were competing against sometimes over a million people.
When we did that Black Friday thing, the soccer goalie thing, I won two grand, winning the $4 felt better.
What about when you get nutmegged?
I mean, that's fine.
I got two grand.
Yeah.
Do you remember that though?
Well, I got $940 because, you know.
because Joe
because President Brandon
so yeah you got nutmeg
was Alex Bennett that nutmeged you
yeah I mean that was the only place
she could have gone she she placed it perfectly
wow crazy
that's that's one of my favorite clips
watching your head just bow down
and defeat afterwards
yeah the two saves never made it on
that was interesting it didn't
people don't people don't like to see you succeed
they shout your failures and whisper your accomplishments
that's fine that's absolutely right
so welcome back
everybody everyone have a good weekend yeah good weekends all around anything interesting
happened pll championship series i gave out the winning pick i gave you everybody
chrome plus 400 to win it all and they did so just wanted to put that out there all right
nice job billy and and you were undefeated in chugging challenges right not exactly
um a bunch of heavyweights came out they're the only ones people were
Remember, whisper your accomplishments, shout your failures.
I did beat Paul Rabel in a chugging contest.
That was pretty cool.
Paul doesn't strike me as a beer guy.
He's not a beer chuggy.
Paul Rabel is a martini sipping.
It's high class.
I've been getting into martinis recently, actually.
Martinis are, there's something that you absolutely hate when you start drinking,
and then you just grow to love them as your taste kind of changes.
Do you like them extra dry?
Yeah, what's, how do you order?
I like dirty.
Okay.
Dirty.
In Mexico, I was getting martinis before dinners, and I would say, Muchu Succio.
The Succioist.
I want the Succioist martini.
Filthy, dirty.
I learned that, like, an extra dry martini is literally just a cup of vodka.
And I was like, what the fuck?
With an olive in it, yeah.
Yeah.
Not even like, you could get it extra dry, no olives.
And it's literally just a cup of vodka.
And it's like, that is what they did in Soviet Russia, but you're just, like, using different terminology to make it fancy.
Does it still have vermouth in it if it's extra dry or no?
I think it might have like a little bit of remorse in it.
But I don't know.
It just depends on how dry you want it.
The Russians, yeah, they know how to drink.
I mean, the fall of the Soviet Union, they talk about these guys would get their like, you know, vodka stipend and just like drink a cup of vodka a night.
And it was like the fall of Soviet Union.
That's all they were doing.
Listen for more takes on Billy's post-mortem on Soviet Union.
I mean, but by the way, really quick, made some comments about Ukraine.
Last week, I just wanted to say, I like, I've participated in Ukraine fundraisers when it first all came out.
Some of his best friends are Ukrainian.
Actually, yes.
He was at the marches.
I was just saying geopolitically, like, you know.
Like, let's hear Putin out.
No, no, like, it wasn't.
like we didn't stir up like not everybody's innocent yeah so wait what are you what are you
what are you saying again because you tried to apologize for it but then you just went right back into
but we were asking for it the no no the americans were asking for it okay and unfortunately
the ukrainian people became the victims okay so i want them to win i'm rooting in conclusion
and yellow. Hunter Biden still responsible for the war. Yeah. Okay. Just wanted to clear that up.
Wanted to clear that up. All right, Billy, comrade Billy, you were, to Billy's credit, you were falling for all the propaganda when it happened.
Yeah, I was like, you, Ghost of Kiev. Yeah, Billy was like, the Ghost of Kiev is so real. And I had to school him about the art of modern warfare.
It's impossible for that guy to have done what they said that he did that first day.
So, all right, thank you, Billy, for your apology.
I'm not apologizing.
I'm just saying that, like, I'm not, like, Putin's sympathist.
It's just, like, there was a lot going on.
If you had a gun, I'd kill Putin.
If I'm Putin right now, and you had a gun, even let you talk.
Even knowing that you would get arrested and thrown in jail.
No, because once he dies, it's like, it's like that movie where if you kill the one guy, they all, like, disappear.
Oh, yeah, Night King, Game of Thrones.
I kill you, like, everything just dissolves.
Okay, that's how it works.
but but billy you kill Putin that's probably a few few million dollars in hunter
biden's pocket who cares okay it'll be gone within the week that's very that's very true
no i kill i kill putin the russians respect the fuck out of me for being like strong man and
make me king then you become Putin no the new putin i if billy was in charge of the
Soviet Union, excuse me, Russia.
Russia. If Billy was in charge of Russia,
what would your goals be for the future
of the entire federation and the nation?
Ooh, this is actually very good, very good idea.
What do you do with the oligarchs?
You know what I would do? I'd straight up just liberate
all the small, like, states that have been under rule
and just let them have their own countries.
Like give Georgia, let Georgia be a country.
No, Georgia is a country.
It is a country. They invaded Georgia.
Just like, there's a bunch of little cool places in Russia
that ever since, like, I've been reading up more about because of, like, UFC and, like, just reading about the conflict.
Like, there's, like, a straight up, like, so many different cultures in Russia that we just have no idea because they've been under the blanket of Russia.
You'd give the Chechen's seat at the table.
Yeah.
Well, I'd give them their own country.
Okay.
So then the oligarchs would definitely kill you.
No, yeah, but I killed Putin, so they respect me.
I think they'd still kill you.
They'd be dead within a day.
Yeah.
Maybe even less, maybe within the hour.
And not because they're mad about Putin, but because they're like this Billy guy, he's, he's got some ideas.
He's woke.
Billy's woke and he's going to give, he's going to give all the ethnic minorities their own country.
And so we just can't have that because we have to sell oil.
Yeah.
And minerals.
But then I'd let those, like, ethnic minorities sell their own oil and then enrich themselves.
Would you tax them?
No, absolutely.
Yeah, you'd be dead.
They would, yeah, Billy.
you believe it would be dead uh big tea good weekend for you it was average that's good it's
perfectly fine yeah big tea loves average weekends uh yeah yeah i would almost rather they be average
than good yeah okay because average is comfortable yeah it's it's good it's fine but then if you
have like a great weekend you come to work on monday and and you hit you crash yeah you're coming off a
high so now you're just you're all fresh yeah if you if you have a perfectly average weekend you
don't really nothing really happens then you you're fine that is the most conservative statement i've
ever heard in conservative in the original sense of the word like no fun because it might cause
something bad to happen in the future yeah it's honestly a crazy take big no i i like it it's slow
and steady wins the race i don't know i love great weekends man but if you look forward to it all
average is great you look forward to it all week and it's just
Just consistency.
But if you have a great weekend every weekend, then it's not great anymore.
I'm not saying every weekend.
Like, you're going to have an average weekend.
I did.
I didn't do much this weekend.
But, like, this coming weekend, I'm going to Florida.
The average weekends are what make the great ones great.
Oh.
But you don't even want great ones.
But I, I do every once.
It sounded like you were saying that you just prefer an average weekend all the time.
I said, I said almost.
But not, but you have, you get nine average and then the one good is really.
really good. Oh, okay. Then I would take that. Yeah. So it's like, I mean, the, the UT win against
Alabama, Big T is going to be riding high off that for years to come. Right. Okay. I thought you
just, yeah. I thought you just met like average all the time you'd prefer. No, you, you want good
thrown in there, but, but at a, you know, where, where it's needed. Are you teed off about anything
from this weekend? Um, not really, I don't think. Um, nothing that comes to mind of
immediately.
Okay.
So, yeah,
it was just a
totally average weekend.
It was fine.
I mean,
did you watch,
you probably watched
Saturday night live
for the first time.
I didn't watch.
I saw a clip.
What are your thoughts on it?
It was fine.
Everything was fine.
Everything's good.
I like Woody Harrelson.
Woody Harrelson seems like a good guy.
Agreed.
Have I told the story
about Woody Harrelson
in a Waffle House
on this podcast?
I don't think so.
Oh,
yeah.
I feel like you have,
but it was a while ago.
It actually might have been on part of my take like years ago.
Yeah, it was my, I want to say my junior year, maybe senior year at college, went down to Panama City Beach for spring break and didn't have a lot of money.
And there was a waffle that was next to our hotel.
And that's really the only place that we could all afford to go eat breakfast.
So we waited in line for probably an hour, hour and a half to get in this waffle house.
And we get in and start eating.
And then who comes into the waffle house, but Woodrow Harrelson.
Woody came in.
And he just sat by himself, eating his lunch or breakfast or whatever it was,
minding his own business, having a good time.
And then on the way out, this dad came up to Woody with his son.
It was like, Woody, my son's a big fan of yours.
Can I take a picture with you?
And Woody's like, absolutely sure.
Takes a picture.
And then Woody's like, tell you what, come outside.
Come outside with me.
Takes a kid and his dad outside.
Woody rolled up on his motorcycle to Waffle House solo.
and then he puts the kid on his motorcycle
and starts wheeling him around the parking lot on the bike
as his dad's like taking videos and pictures of Woody Harrelson
showing his kid how to ride a bike.
I just thought that was cool.
It told me that Woody Harrelson,
he was probably really,
really high at the time,
one because he was Waffle House too
because he was Woody Harrelson.
And so he took the time out of his day
as opposed to just taking a picture with this kid.
Let's give this kid an experience.
That told me everything I know about Woody.
I think he's a good guy.
Great dude.
his father that's a crazy story it actually is his father was a hitman for i think the mafia
and he died in prison in 2015 and was in there for a very long time i think his dad
assassinated a federal judge yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah wild story so you could see that he
probably i don't know there there's definitely some father issues there and he's just like
wants to be a good father to kids does he have kids i don't know i did love him true detective
he was good in that one too oh he does have kids good for him woodie harrelson confirmed fox
uh so now we're going to get into a 30 minute debate about vaccine and mask efficacy so
lab leak theory confirmed we covered that that was that was a joke billy that was a joke i know
i know i think that's the last thing people want to hear is another amnesty screaming argument about
that. Now, I missed that last week. Yeah. I heard about it. Yeah, we probably don't need to revisit that.
We don't. Now, to be fair, the Department of Energy says that they now have low confidence that it came
from a lab. So it's like 50-50 split in terms of intelligence agencies that have looked it up to see if it was
allowed. The basic thing is we still, no one really knows. We can we can make guesses and we can try to
figure out what it was, but nobody, there's no smoking gun. Nobody knows exactly what happened.
Wait, I don't want to get into this. I do just want to correct what you said. The Department of
Energy said it likely did. Yeah, with low confidence. Okay. Yeah. So when you give an intelligence
report, it says you have high confidence, medium confidence, low confidence in your conclusion,
depending on what your confidence is. I think the WMDs in Iraq might have been medium confidence.
I'm not, I'm not 100% sure. But they said that it likely came from the last.
lab, and they can say that with low confidence. So it's like them, the FBI, they think that it
came from the lab, and then there's other agencies that don't think that it came from. We don't
know. That's the bottom line. We don't know yet. I got trapped in traffic driving back from
D.C. to New York on Friday, and that is the worst, like, if you leave, I left it the worst
time on Friday to hit every metro area's commuting traffic. Only reason I bring this up is that
that's where all like i pat you pass like nsa langley i pass langley before i left dc yeah langley
i saw it so i was just like in traffic just seeing all these things and just being like
these are all the places where all the stuff happens it is all the lies come out then i stopped at waffle
house i just remembered uh the last bastion of truth yeah and i fucking love waffle house can someone
tell me why we don't have a waffle house nearby labor laws is
Is there a reason?
I've said forever, if you put a Waffle House in, like, the East Village or Lower East Side somewhere on Friday and Saturday nights, I mean, it would be...
I just don't think it would hit the same.
Like, the Southern comfort, it would.
It would hit the same.
I don't know.
It wouldn't, it wouldn't 100%, but I mean, it'd be better than having one.
Guys, there's tons of 24-hour diners all over New York City.
Are you really going to make the argument that those are even comparable to waffles?
I actually am, because I actually had a ton of food at two hours.
am at the orion diner with my boys and I had steak and eggs and a chicken parmesan at it was
amazing all right I'll did it hit the same as waffle house yeah it's 20 it's 24 hours there's tons of 24
hour diners and you kind of do I will I love Waffle House because it's novel to me being like being from
the northeast you didn't grow up near right and I bet it's great being from there but those diners
serve the exact same here's there a woman named Dottie calling you sugar and that's that's that's a
difference right so i grew up in new jersey diners all over and yes they're good but sometimes it's hit
or miss waffle house is good every time and because it's the same food like you just know what you're
getting every single time and it's a vibe that's the only reason why i don't think it would work in new york
is because the southern comfort makes the difference for me i feel like the food will be good but i just
don't know if it'll hit the same overall i think i just want a waffle house waffles sometimes
Well, I know they're in Pennsylvania, which if you've reached Pennsylvania, they should just be everywhere.
Yeah.
Because at that point.
So I went to one near a rest stop in Pennsylvania, and it wasn't like as good.
Pennsylvania is the south.
Yeah.
There's some in Ohio.
Pennsylvania is definitely the south.
You're going to need to explain that.
That's a no.
If you, okay, I'm not talking about.
That's a vibe thing.
I'm not talking about.
I'm not talking about Philadelphia.
I mean, the Adirondacks?
I'm not talking about, I mean, Scranton is kind of the south.
Pittsburgh has southern elements to it.
But outside of like Harrisburg, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, the major cities, they call it Pinsultucky for a reason.
And I know that Kentucky is not really the South either if you go by who fought on whose side in the Civil War.
But Pennsylvania, it's by that, the people you meet in Pennsylvania, they are, they are the, they are Southern.
I couldn't agree more.
By that logic, upstate New York is the South.
Yeah, there are parts of upstate New York.
Maine is the South.
You're just saying anywhere rural, Maine is the South.
No, you, I, you could, D.C. is the South.
Oh, Billy.
Billy, you were so wrong.
No, no, D.C. I was in D.C.
For two hours.
No, I was there since Tuesday.
Okay, I've been there since 1985.
And, but like, by that, but see, right, it's all comparative.
You think Pennsylvania is the south the same way I think D.C. is the south.
D.C. is one of the places I've been that reminds me the least of the south of anywhere I've ever been.
Yeah.
Are you talking about the city?
of Washington, the District of Columbia?
I'm talking about in and around.
You're talking about Virginia, Northern Virginia.
Yeah.
I say, I often joke and say that Northern Virginia is the South just to piss people off because I know that it's a troll.
No, I actually think Northern Virginia, there's a lot of Southern elements.
I disagree.
You've got to get, now if you go outside of the Northern Virginia area, like if you leave Fairfax County, Loudoun County, and you get out to Winchester, you go out towards West Virginia, that is the South.
If you go down like 81 towards Richmond, I guess 81 would take you to Harrisonburg and Roanoke.
But if you go down on 95 towards Richmond, then, yeah, outside of northern Virginia, Virginia is definitely the south.
You know what's really the south, the eastern shore of Virginia.
The little tip that dangles off the Delmarva Peninsula, that's the south.
That's more southern than a lot of actually southern places.
I actually think Pennsylvania is more Midwestern.
No, Pennsylvania's the south.
Pennsylvania is not Midwestern.
So what is your
criteria? Let's talk about the criteria. Yeah. Vibes
in D.C. Someone called me sugar in D.C.
Okay. That might just be one person.
Yeah. Yeah.
Are you talking about African American people?
No. What are you talking about?
Because like, yes, if you're, if you're somewhere
in an African American lady calls you sugar,
it does, it feels good.
But what is your criteria
for Pennsylvania being the South? And I disagree
that upstate New York is the South at all.
Or Maine.
Maine's the South. Are you King? Main is like a rugged. You're just saying anywhere where people
own firearms. That has something to do with it. There's also, there's also like southern
hospitality. Well, it could be either, either or it could be somebody who's like super hospitable to
you or it could be someone that absolutely hates people from the outside that are like the least
hospitable people in the world. Those two sides are also those combined to make the south.
All right. So you guys know Cabela's obviously. It's great place.
there's one in Hamburg, Pennsylvania.
It's the biggest one in the country.
And you walk in there and you feel like you're in the south.
Yeah.
It's a different breed.
I think it's true.
Yeah.
A ton of flannel.
Flannel's not southern.
A lot of open carry weapons.
Yeah.
That's southern.
Yeah.
Flannel is not southern.
Flannel is lumberjack.
Well, that's that you could say.
It depends on how thick the flannel is.
Yep.
Yeah.
If the flannel has like the fleece lining in it, that's lumberjack.
No, no, like Maine is flannel.
Yeah.
Like,
that's the south no no i don't know i'm sorry i'm sorry billy i hate to break it to you i agree with
pf t i've been around a lot longer than you have dc is not the south i think dc is dc i think
there's more southern people in dc than they're northern people is virginia the south no parts
of virginia yeah oh yeah for sure no what he said oh no no would bad done yeah no like southwest
virginia is the south i'd say central virginia is the south too but i was he said there's more
Southerners in D.C. than Northerners, not even close. D.C. is full of people who went to
Harvard and Georgetown. It's too catchy, like,
liberal elite. People that live in D.C., they can be there because they work for the government
or they're lobbyists, but people that are like born and raised in D.C. I don't consider them
to be liberal elite. I would just say that, like, people, the, uh, the type of D.C. that you're
thinking of around the government, those are usually people that went to school. Yeah, Ivy League.
Some of them even live in New York and they just like commute down to D.C. a couple days a week.
I'm, yeah. So you know what I'm describing? You know how Frank Underwood goes to the ribs place
in the Netflix House of Cards? Yeah. There was a lot of establishments that were Southern oriented.
There was a lot of like of the labor force with a Southern accent, white and black, in D.C.
something that coming from New York, you don't see. That's why I got that vibe. D.C. definitively
not the South. I understand that you did spend several days down there. I haven't been to D.C.
really before and I was able to be around there and I just got, like, that was something I noticed
that was different than the rest of the Megalopolis, which is Boston to Washington, D.C., which we don't
talk about enough. We don't. Because I traveled the whole Megalopolis on Friday, too, Baltimore.
Philadelphia.
Wilmington.
Wilmington, yes, that's the city I keep forgetting that I got stuck in traffic outside of.
Yeah, Wilmington, they call it murder city.
Damn.
Apparently, Wilmington is like one of the most violent cities in the country.
Low-key.
The definition of low-key violent.
That's what they said about Baltimore.
Yeah, Baltimore, there's some very, very bad parts of Baltimore for sure.
Baltimore's high-key.
A high-key, yeah.
I mean, when you have two successful murder TV shows based around your city.
The Inner Harbor in Baltimore is great.
I actually love it.
Patterson.
Yep.
That's where they used to have the ESPN zone.
Yeah, there's a restaurant, the bygone in Baltimore.
It's one of the best restaurants I've ever been to.
It's on a rooftop of the four seasons.
It's like on whatever, the highest floor, and it's really sick, and the food's good.
Did you guys know the history of Patterson, New Jersey?
I do.
Do you know how it was built?
No.
So.
I guess I don't know the history.
Well, I just live close to there, but I know about it.
Is it Patterson or Trenton?
Wait.
Here we go.
Wait, wait.
Do you know the history of Patterson?
Trenton, because I drove past it.
I get Patterson and Trenton mixed up.
Basically, one of those cities, they built a ton of housing in order to basically house, like,
if there was a nuclear disaster, to be able to put as much of the population in this city.
Let me find it.
You don't want to be getting really into recently.
recently is nuclear war simulators where you can choose the parameters and what type of attack
you're involved in and you can put these little people all over the map and then see how those
individuals fare in these cities based on where the bombs explode and if they're downwind from
the fallout it's uh it's one of the more dorky things that i do but it's it's been interesting
to say the least because you can you can actually like model what uh russi
Russia's nuclear war plans are in the United States, like, response to it, and then see exactly who would get hit, who would survive.
It's interesting stuff.
This is why if a tactical nuke gets launched in Ukraine, I am high-tailing it out of New York City as fast as I can.
Yeah, it's probably not a bad idea.
I will work remote.
Like, I'm just saying that right now.
Okay.
Granted.
Thank you.
But again, this is Billy pre-explain why he's going to miss work.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Billy, have you figured it out yet?
No.
Okay.
It's funny, I looked up the history of Patterson.
I said I did just because I live right around there, so I was just curious.
And it's like what, you know, sometimes where it pops up where it's like people always ask.
So it's like, what is Patterson, New Jersey famous for?
Is Patterson a good area?
Then it goes, was Sopranos filmed in Patterson?
What is Gabagool?
Where's the real Sopranos house?
I like that.
Wait, is it filmed there?
They've filmed all over,
so I think they filmed a couple scenes in Patterson.
Man, I just wish I could go back and be an extra in the Sopranos.
Oh, how cool would that have been?
My dad's buddy who he grew up with was an extra in Sopranos.
Like at Vesuvios, eating at a restaurant?
No, he was walking in while Tony Sopranos was walking out of somewhere.
And they, like, looked at each other.
That's the dream.
It's so funny.
Like James Gandalfini, he grew up in the town next to mine.
And he's looked at as like this badass mob boss.
But in high school, like he played football, but he was like a loser kind of.
Like he was like a theater kid that just like was very quiet and like didn't talk to anybody.
And then he just became this megastar who everyone like kind of feared almost because of his role in the show.
Yeah.
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would love to have been an extra on the Spranos.
I would have been awesome.
Oh, my God.
Best show ever, I think.
Yeah.
I would say so.
I think this brand is probably the best TV show of all time.
Yeah, I never gets old.
I can watch it a million times.
The wire's up there.
Love the wire.
Breaking Bad.
Breaking Bad's up there, too, for sure.
I mean, first season of True Detective.
Yeah.
Better Call Saul.
Is Better Call Saul actually good?
It's really good.
It's very good.
Is it funny?
It's got funny parts of it, yeah.
I can't.
get into i haven't i tried getting into it give me a shot you like it i feel like billy can i've
only seen like tic-tok things about better call saul but i feel like billy has the makings of a
saul goodman type well lies a lot way just that's just being a lawyer yeah billy should
should have been a lawyer i've never seen breaking bad but i i watch better call saul because i
love bob odenkirk but i guess i got a circle back on breaking bad you should also go back and
Mr. Show with Bob and David.
That was their sketch comedy show
that they did in the 90s.
Bob Odenkirk and him.
One of the funniest things ever,
Bob Odenkirk and David Cross.
Oh, really?
So from Arrested Development.
I love David Cross.
Yeah, Tobias, that was his name,
on Arrested Development.
Yeah, they had some all-time sketches on there.
One of my favorite shows of all-time.
Check it out if you haven't seen it already.
And on nanodosing,
excuse me, on extra dosing,
Billy and Mad Dog are going to get into The Last of Us.
Yes.
Yeah.
Which I'm excited to listen to you guys talk about because I have, I started watching
The Last of Us yesterday.
Oh, that's awesome.
Watch three episodes.
Episode three just destroyed me.
That's one of the best episodes in TV history, I think.
That episode, that extra dosing episode, heavy spoiler alert, we're just going to talk about
everything.
Like, don't listen to it if you haven't seen all the episodes.
That's why we're not letting PFT join.
the podcast for that because he hasn't seen all of them and we we don't rob him of those
experiences i am fascinated with the premise behind the show which is what if a fungus was able to
infect human beings the way that it infects ants and you know you see i saw this one video on
twitter the other week where it was uh i think it was horseworms or hair worms that had infected
a praying mantis and they put it in water and then all these worms just like squirted out of
the mantis to get into the water.
I saw that.
Because they're parasites and they take over the mantis's body and they fuck with its brain
and they make the mantis want to go towards water, which is where those worms reproduce.
And the whole parasite relationship and I guess fungus is similar to that, the cordyceps,
where they'll take over an ant's body and then make the ant want to get up to high ground
above its colony so that it can just break through the ant's skin and then drop spores all
over the colony.
It's actually like the creepiest thing in the world.
It's so scary because like the whole premise, this isn't a spoiler.
It's like if climate change continues like this could be something that like could happen
in humans or something.
Yeah.
Everything about the show fascinating.
What's crazy is Jake Plummer gave us cordyceps.
Yep.
To take.
Seriously?
Yeah, because it's supposed to enhance athletic performance and like give you more energy.
I actually took lines, meaning before this.
Because it doesn't,
cortisps doesn't affect your brain.
It affects your nervous system.
Isn't that part of your brain's part of the nervous system?
But it doesn't, like, it doesn't attack only your brain.
Mm-hmm.
So in the show, what they're doing what they're doing,
their brain is fully aware that they're doing this and they're trying to,
their body and their brain are, like, working against each other, basically.
So the human is still in there.
Got it.
Wait, we don't know that.
I've watched a lot of analysis videos, Billy.
Wait, that's a spoiler.
That hasn't been revealed on the show yet.
Bleep that out.
That's from the video game.
No.
It was a video game.
I know it was a video game.
That's a spoiler.
So, like, don't, come on, we don't rob people.
That's not really a spoiler.
That's like how the fungus works.
Well, we were also talking about toxoplasmosis.
Yeah.
That was when I had my little end of Monday episodes way back in the pandemic when I just like,
go on deep dives, we talked about toxoplasmosis.
And that's a really cool one.
It's a parasite in cats poop that is subsequently eaten by rats, causing the rats
to have no fear of predators and just walk towards cats, willy-nilly not caring, and then get
eaten by the cats, which then have the parasite reproduce in their intestines, and then they
poop it out and then the rats get it in some sort of food and it's like it in about i think like
70% of motorcycle crash victims who like are doing risk are like really bad accidents they test
positive for toxoplasmosis because humans can pick it up how do humans pick it up uh people who own
cats uh oh so it's like you're eating cat poop like by accident but like you end up eating like
a lot of stuff yes if you're around cats and like you know cats are climbing up on the table
and just like a little gets in your food.
I don't know.
So like crazy cat lady has toxoplasmosis.
And that's why she doesn't care about the law, you know, property rights.
She's squatting on her eviction notice.
Yeah.
She's like, I don't care.
There was a study that was done.
I think it was in 2022 or 2021, where they looked at how toxoplasmosis
affected people's like risk taking behaviors as well.
as their political beliefs. And they were saying that for men, toxoplasmosis, let's see,
it says among men only toxoplasmosis status was no longer associated with tribalism,
but they say that toxoplasmosis was associated with lower cultural liberalism and lower
anti-authoritarianism. So if you have toxoplasmosis, then I think you're more likely to
be, or you're less likely to be liberal if you have toxoplasmosis.
So one time I found these barn kittens and I was raising them and I got really,
really more right wing after that.
It was also the pandemic.
There may have been, no, I'm kidding.
Wait, yeah, do you think you have toxoplasmosis?
My mom does because she had to take a test for it during pregnancy and maybe, because
Because I've been around, like, there was barn cats in a barn where I used to, like, play a lot as a child.
So, like, those are the types of cats that would have toxic plasmosis.
If there's a disease or a parasite that is more heavily found and contracted by people who spend lots of time in barns, Billy's definitely high risk.
There was actually, there was a bat colony in a barn I was making residence of.
Why do you have to be so weird about everything?
What?
Be like I lived in a barn.
Yeah.
And there were bats.
I got sent home from college and I didn't want to live with my parents.
So I was like, I'm going to make this barn in my spot.
You sound like a cop talking about, like writing up an official report where it's like there was a barn.
And at that time, numerous individuals, including myself, had established residential type behaviors inside the structure.
Just say you lived in a barn.
I live in a barn.
There's bats.
and I still think that like there's this like crazy story of like people getting bitten by bats
and they have no idea they got bitten by the bat and then like six months later they just
dropped dead of rabies because like a rabbit bat bites them I'm terrified of rabies yeah rabies and then
I found it I thought it was six months so I'd moved out and I'd been out of the barn for six months
I was like okay so if I got bit by a bat it would have you know I would have died I was like few
past that one on then I was scrolling Reddit and it was like
Like, did you know, rabies can kill you seven years later after the bite?
And I was like, fuck.
I don't know if that's necessarily true.
There's been times.
I feel like rabies progresses a little bit more quickly than that.
No, because it's a sleeper cell.
Really?
Yeah, so seven years, if I die rabies, I think I'm two years removed from the barn.
So we'll see.
All right, we got to get a clock going on that.
Anything else you want to get into or we want to jump into this interview with Scott Ruggowski from H.
HQ trivia.
Let's go to Scott.
Let's go to Scott.
Do you want to tell people what our episode is for this week?
Yes.
Yes, I do.
This week we're going to be talking about the Murdaugh murders.
You can see the documentary on Netflix.
It's a three-part series.
It just gets crazier and crazier.
So if you make it through episode one and you're like, this is kind of weird, but not that wild, just stay tuned because it gets a lot deeper, a lot heavier.
I've been paying attention to these guys
for the last
I think they started
to make national news back in 2021
That's when the murder happened
Yeah and and reading
into all the stuff that has gone on
with this family in South Carolina
It's fascinating
So we will be talking about
the Murdaws on
Thursday's episode so watch that
Then I think the week after that
We're going to be doing
an episode on Malaysian Air
A lot of people
been asking for that. Yeah.
There's a documentary coming out on Netflix, not this Thursday, but I think the following
Thursday, the day that the episode is going to drop, which will be cool. So people will be able
to watch that as well. But the Malaysian airline that disappeared, it just went missing.
And they haven't been able to find it. And they've spent, I think, hundreds of millions of
dollars trying to track this plane down, figure out what happened to it, how it crashed, where it went.
maybe if it got sucked into a wormhole,
maybe if it landed in Russia somewhere,
or maybe if the pilot was responsible for everything
and just crashed in a location that we haven't been able to find yet.
So some fascinating stuff coming up in the next couple weeks.
Stay tuned to that.
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you remember him from hq trivia he's on here he's going to talk a little bit about what happened
with hq where what he's been up to since and also uh promoting the documentary glitch that's
coming out on CNN, Glitch, the Rise and Fall of HQ Trivia,
premiering Sunday, March 5th at 6 p.m. Pacific, 9 p.m. Eastern.
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It's cool to have you on the show.
I think everybody here in this room, we were all H-Quties.
Is that what we call it ourselves?
H-Kudies, H-Cucumbers, H-Cucumbers.
cunicorns i was trying to come up with that that was one of the many exercises i had the fun
parts of the the job for me was i wanted to create a unifying term for the fans of the show right
and it was a completely organic trial and error situation where i was throwing out different
different terms but then h cuties came to me in a fever dream and uh that one stuck h cutie patooties
if you want to be if you're not into the whole brevity thing well what about for bill you could be
H-Q-Anon.
H-Q-N-on.
That wasn't around back then.
That was not right.
Exactly.
That would have been, yeah.
The right-wing-leaning fans would be the H-Q-Nons.
But that did not exist as an entity back then, so I couldn't pun on it.
I thought about calling them Quizlings, my little Quizlings.
Okay.
If you're familiar with history, Quisling was a Nazi collaborator with the Norwegians.
I believe he was the Prime Minister of Norway.
So I don't know if Quisling was a good
With an S
Good term
They might have frowned on that
That might not have been
Yeah, I think I threw it out there at one point
But another thing, you know
Do you guys know what HQ stands for?
Well, I was going to say headquarters
But that's obviously not correct
Headquarters is not correct
It's actually Hebrew quarterback
It's named after Jay Fiedler
HQ
So that was something you guys didn't know either
Yeah, I'm learning something new already
Yeah, I do feel like
You've been a part of our lives
for a little bit like it is that kind of weird knowing that so for so many people for for that
period of time you were like a constant presence in their life you would just pop up on their
phones and they felt like they knew you it's super weird everything about the whole hosting HQ is
weird for me very surreal um yeah having that parasolcial relationship which was a term that i
didn't even know at the time i've since come to learn uh you know with so many strangers you know
strangers to me but people who you know i was in their not only like in their homes but in their
hands and it's it's one thing to be on someone's tv to be in your hand to be on that screen that
you're spending upwards of eight 10 hours a day on um according to your your weekly reports uh it is
it is something else i guess something that that really bonds you to to the person and um i mean
look this is a perfect example the fact that we're talking you're you were fans of the show and i know
Aaron was playing and I got so many athletes and musicians reaching out to me.
It got to the point where like I'm DMing with like Russell Okung and Lance Armstrong
and like the lead singer of Evanescence.
Like all these, the most disparate groups of people.
Yeah.
Are all like, hey, Scott, we love what you're doing.
Hey man.
You know, inviting me to things.
And it's just like what what's happening here?
I mean, you know, to have this this kind of, this is a little snapshot.
appreciate this kind of sums up how bizarre it got for me my life in 2018 there was a moment a
night in 20 summer of 2018 where i'm in austin texas being driven to a local bar who's in the
front seat of this truck houston street former rookie of the year two-time all-star pitcher a's
houston street passenger seat drew stubbs another former big leaguer reds indians both texas boys
teammates next to me in the back seat lance armstrong and the three of the three of the
of us just driving to a bar in Austin and it's just like what one of these people does not belong
maybe two of us don't belong here but what the hell was I doing there okay I mean it was like
I you know I grew up watching these guys play ball watching Lance and now I'm I'm in the car
with him possibly you know on my way to a reckless evening I was like definitely only one
wearing a seatbelt that night you better believe that the neurotic Jew and me was trying
you know stay alive in that moment yeah it's it's very cool I think you were I don't
want to say like universally loved. I think most people liked you a lot. I would get annoyed at you
when I would lose. And then all of a sudden, the funny little quips and jokes, they get a lot less
funny at that point. I'm like, this piece of shit's laughing at me. You know, but, but I think for the
most part, like, what would you say? Like 85, 90% of people, you had a pretty good Q score, right?
I did hire a team to calculate the exact numbers here to get to see the haters versus leverage.
No, I don't know. I can't put a percentage out. I did get a lot of favorable tweets. And so
all I can say is most people enjoy
there were definitely people oh you talk too much
hey shut up get to the questions
but it's like most of the time
it's because I was being told
there's a guy behind the camera going keep talking
we're having issues
the thing is breaking
you know there's either too many people trying to play
and the app wasn't working or
you know something was going wrong behind the scene
so if I was talking too much
that was why because we could be physically
could not start the game yet you were good at it too
you were good at filling that time
It never felt, or for the most part, unless the game was like glitching, which did happen.
We can get into that in a little bit.
But for the most part, it felt like you were just, you were, you know, having a natural conversation and you were filling the time really well.
So maybe let's go back to the start here and you can tell us how you got involved in HQ trivia and how they selected you.
And they're like, this guy is the Alex Trebek for the short attention span internet generation.
Right.
I was basically a struggling, semi-struggling, under-employed comedian talk show host.
I'd been hosting a show called Running Late with Scott Ruggowski, Running Late Show,
for at that point, six years or so.
And I had been doing a show called, you'll appreciate this.
Before that, in 2008 to 2011, I had a show with my buddy Neil called 12 Angry Mascots,
which was a sports comedy show, which we were doing in New York,
and had people like, you know,
Kenny Main and Daryl Revis and David Deal from the Giants
and Chris Duhon as, as guests.
We have athlete guests and sports personality guests
and we do comedy around sports and do sketches and things.
So it was a sports comedy talk show for three years.
I've been doing stand-up all that time.
The sports comedy thing sort of fizzled out.
Right around where Norm McDonald had his sports show on Comedy Central,
2011, we were taking meetings with Comedy Central.
Cominysville had the sports show in Norm
McDonald and they had the Onion Sports Dome.
They had two sports comedy shows on at the same time.
It was like the peak of sports comedy on TV.
And we were getting a meeting with Comedy Central.
And then they're like, yeah, guys, these shows aren't doing too well.
So we're putting a kibosh on the whole sports vertical.
So we kind of saw the writing on the wall at that point and ended our show.
Amani tumor was our final guest.
That was a great show.
Shout out of Amani.
And then I did my own show running late from 2011 to,
2019. So I was doing that and really wanted to move to LA with the show. I'd done what I could
in New York. I reached sort of a ceiling there, got write-ups in New York Magazine and New York Times and
New Yorker and all the New York stuff. I said, I want to go to L.A. and try to become more of a
national entity. And before I had a chance to move, I got a call from a friend Nick who
worked at The Onion. I used to work at the Onion back in 2008. I interned there. That was my first
job. It was unpaid, but my first kind of thing out of college.
And so I stayed in touch, you know, the thing about internships, hello, all those young kids listening out there, if you got an internship, maybe you're not getting paid, but the relationships matter and they will pay off.
So be nice, be good at what you're doing, get to know people in the office or on the Zooms or whatever virtual environment you have these days, because you make those connections in your internship, maybe they'll pay off down the line.
In this case, you know, nine years after that internship, this guy, Nick called me up.
I mean, we had been in touch.
We'd been Facebook friends.
We'd hung out.
It wasn't like totally out of the blue.
But I, you know, I wasn't talking to this guy all the time.
Get a call from Nick randomly.
Hey, I'm casting for this thing called HQ.
Actually, it wasn't even called it.
They didn't have a name for at the time.
I'm casting for this game show on a phone.
Yada yada.
I was like, what the, you know, game show on the phone?
I mean, I could not have thought lower of this at the time.
I'm like, great.
Maybe I'll book this gig.
And then my next job will be gas station TV.
You know, I'll be, hey, while you're filling up,
there's a special on.
Yeah.
While you're on pump, too, there's a special on Kit Katz inside, you know, but, uh, but I got this,
I got it. I went to the audition. I audition amongst 20 other people or so and they just chose me.
I could the key to the addition was I did not care about booking this thing. I was already at the
door. I was going to move to LA in a couple months. I moved out of my apartment in Brooklyn at that
point already. So this is my one last swan song, my last audition. I never booked anything.
All those additions I did for, uh, search party for, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,
What was the show?
Geez, Alana Glazer and Abby Jacobson, I'm a Broad City.
I audition for Broad City a few times.
I audition for all these little things, never booked anything.
And then this one audition, oh, commercials for Delta or whatever, Noah Sindegarde, some commercial to him.
Didn't book any of that.
But this, this HQ edition, I got it because I just really didn't care about it at all.
I went in there.
I looked like shit.
I had, you know, completely overgrown beard, moth-eaten sweater, wearing my glasses,
which I never, never normally did when I did auditions, and I got it.
So go figure.
There's a lesson there, right?
I actually do think that sometimes when you don't care, or at least if you can
convince yourself not to care in that moment, then it kind of opens you up a little bit
and you take some risks in the audition that you probably wouldn't take to begin with.
And people like the fact, like, this guy really doesn't want to work for us.
I have to have him.
There's definitely something there, man.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
So, Bill, you got any questions for him right off the bat?
Yeah.
You know, nowadays there's TikTok.
and HQ is trying to do like a revamp in itself what do you think have you consumed any of their
like trivia products and what do you think they're missing that you know the original HQ had
there was a lot of magic in that time in 2018 onward that just was encapsulated but they can't
seem to catch it again what do you think it may be and do you think that moving forward this sort
of medium especially live quiz content is going to continue to be as successful as it once was or
just needs time now i think what's missing frankly is the monopoly on the format i mean when hq
launched five six five and a half years ago now there it was the only live streaming show
in a sense like you know i mean like you know instagram live i guess was around at that point periscope
things like that of nature but they weren't being utilized harness in this way of like treating it like a
production and this is a show with my money and you can play this you can interact the interactivity
is key i mean everything else is just chat right chat maybe you drop an emoji drop a heart but this
was the first show of its kind where the very beginning i think people were tuning in for the
technology they're like wait a minute i can play this there's a live host i can open my phone at a
certain time i can start tapping buttons here answer questions and win money like this this is a real this is
real this is happening five and a half years later we are familiar with that concept we all know
what's possible and there are so many imitators and so much competition and even ticto i saw the other
tick tock started doing this trivia thing i was like every time you open ticot for the last few weeks
you get that joined ticot rewards register right i mean you also i think they're gonna have 10 million
people playing this thing the way they're promoting this everybody on ticot's gonna be playing well
i tuned in i think they have like a half a million
So even with all that promotion, even being TikTok itself, which is sucked up everyone's attention, they couldn't get the HQ numbers.
And I think it's just because there's so much more stuff out there now demanding our attention, taking us away.
So the question of can anything recapture that magic and get the millions and millions and millions of concurrence the way HQ did, you know, maybe maybe not for trivia because also it's like, guys, trivia's been done.
we did it. I did HQ trivia for years. Like, you know, there are other formats to explore
here. And that's, that's the real shame of, you know, it's called the rise and fall of HQ.
The rise could have included all these other games. It fell because it didn't go beyond
trivia. It didn't, it didn't expand beyond just the format. They had a words thing that came out
a little too, little too late. But we should have had 10 different options, 10 different formats
going after two years. And we could have become a network and really could have become this
billion dollar behemate that we should have been but because we didn't innovate and iterate on the
product side that's where it fell apart so i'm hoping there is uh you know without disclosing too much
i am working with some some people who have some ideas on how to get back to those rare
stratospheric uh errors of of the hq level audiences but it might not be trivia let's put it that
way so that was going to be my follow-up question do you see yourself doing a similar type product
maybe on a different platform.
I mean, we see a lot of Vine stars today thriving on TikTok and other mediums.
And celebrity boxing.
Yeah.
You considered fighting Jake Paul.
Yeah.
I think I'd sooner hang out with the Murdox than getting a ring with Jake Paul.
But no, I think there's, you know, again, it's about coming up with the right format, the right talent.
and you know there also is something i don't know if i want to give away all the secrets here
but it's maybe it's not a secret it's so glaringly obvious think about what hq was
was an app that existed purely for 15 minutes of your time each day maybe 30 maybe we did
two shows a day so 30 minutes a day that's literally the only use you had for this app you open it at
three o'clock the afternoon, nine o'clock at night.
And that's part of what drove usage, I think, of the app and downloading the app.
And maybe, you know, there was people on team argument, well, we got to have things going on
throughout the day, mini games, keep people engage.
But you know what?
There's so much going on in your life, whether you're listening to a podcast, you're
watching TikToks, you're watching YouTube, you're this, that.
It's kind of nice to have this little, you know, corner of your phone where you know it's
dedicated to just this one thing.
Facebook tried an HQ imitator, and it did not work because it was in the Facebook app.
This TikTok trivia thing, it was, you know, 500,000, a million people.
I think they got to a million I heard.
I don't know what the final game numbers were.
I didn't see, but, you know, they did decently well, but they're also in the TikTok app.
There's a lot going on in the TikTok app.
I think having a dedicated app is also part of what made HQ work.
Yeah, did you ever read the chat as it was going already, or would you go back and read the chat later?
Oh man
In the beginning, in the beginning days
It was moving slow enough
Where I could actually read the chat
And respond to it
And then it got to a point where
It was a blur
It was literally a blur of text going up
Because so many people were chatting
And it was hard to keep up
But yeah, no, I
You know, again, one of those early days
I would read the chat
Hear what's going on
Something got out of control
Something I sort of realized about the app
And I think part of the magic
Was for my generation
Like I was in college when we were watching it
it was one of the first times you had a whole group of people and everyone around you all
tuning in for something at the same time. And then because it was live being able to discuss it,
whereas like TV shows for us, like we didn't have like the Sunday night. We're bingers. We're
going on these streaming services. So it was the one time where we were all like all watching
the same thing at the same time besides sports, but and then all participating and then talking about
it afterwards. So it was just, it was a pretty magical time honestly in the. Nothing beats live.
You're talking about this, and it reminds me of my dad telling me, you know, when he was in college in the 70s, his frat bros, his dormmates getting together to watch Saturday Night when it came out.
Like that was the same kind of thing.
We all got together.
They watched Saturday Night because it was live on Saturday night.
And just like you're saying, you kind of crowd around, you watch the thing, you're joking with each other.
So to have that live tune in aspect, I agree.
I mean, for me, I was in college when I remember this very clearly MTV had the show called Human Giant.
It was a Ziz Ansari's first show, and Rob Heubel, Paul Shear, they had like a 24-hour takeover of MTV.
And for 24 hours, they stayed up.
They brought all their friends from the comedy scene in New York, all these UCB people.
And it was live.
And I, like, wanted to watch it live and stay up with these guys and watch, you know, all my favorite comedians doing it.
Nick Kroll and Malaney and they were doing, oh, hello back then.
And they were all, I mean, it was hysterical.
And because it was live, I was tuning in.
And you're absolutely right, Billy Football.
It was because of that, that you couldn't DVR, you couldn't binge it later.
You had to be in it to win it.
And you got to be live with it.
How much would have it popped off if you guys had started HQ trivia during COVID?
That's when we really needed some time to come together and watch anything live, you know?
The great irony is that it went bust of February 14th Valentine's Day, 20, 2020.
So it actually, if it's just a few weeks before.
COVID lockdown, the whole thing went bankrupt.
Yeah, that's just one of the cruel, cruel ironies of life.
Our options would have been rewatch Tiger King or HQ trivia again at that point.
That's like all the entertainment that we had at that point.
The HQ fiends were just watching old clips on YouTube of HQ from October 2017 just to get their fix.
What was the, what was the hardest question you ever asked?
I recently re-asked it for the CNN social page here.
So it's fresh in my mind.
Let's see.
I think it was for a period of time, the main source of U.S. electricity came from, you know, what source?
You know, where was, what was, I could have the exact wording, but basically it was like, where did the U.S. get most of its electricity from at a certain point in time?
And it was like New York wastewater,
or the blanket or Soviet warheads.
And the answer was Soviet warheads.
Like some kind of decommissioned warhead thing was powering our,
the radiation was powering our energy grid.
I don't know the specifics,
but apparently 99% of the people got it were wrong.
It was that difficult of a question.
So I kind of butchered it in the retailing there.
But that was, and then Bird's Nest Soup is definitely one of the more.
more famous ones that one i remember verbatim it was uh the asian delicacy bird's nest soup is
primarily composed of what ingredient shredded noodles or cabbage shredded cabbage noodles or birds nests
and the answer was birds nests it's called bird's nest soup it's made from the actual
nest that these swallows in japan they use their spit to create these nests under
roofs of houses or something or in caves and people harvest these nests
and melt it down into the soup and they drink it and eat it.
You've given Billy something to look into about the Russian nuclear warhead.
I'm sure they'll have a full roundup of that on Thursday's show.
Big T, you have some questions for them?
Yeah, so obviously we've discussed HQ.
That's what 99% of people know you from.
But I was curious, you know, to see what you've done since then.
And I came across Quiz Daddy's closet, which is a retro clothing store that you own.
And I know you're a big sports fan in the pictures I've seen.
There's a lot of sports jerseys in there.
I'm curious, do you have some favorite memorabilia jerseys that have come through there?
Well, I'm holding.
I don't know if there's there could be a video component to this.
Oh, yeah.
1983 Orioles World Series Champions hat right here.
Yeah, I'm wearing a Montreal Alouettes shirt.
Oh, nice.
Hell yeah.
97.
Shout out the alouettes.
In fact, I've got right next to me here.
This is part of the personal collection, the P.E.
So you're not going to find this at QuizDaddies, which you can find at 2525 Main Street in Santa Monica or QuizDaddies.com.
But this stays with me.
I have a collection of these great Negro League shirts from the early 90s produced by a company called Underground Railroad.
I just love the Negro League history.
And I love the design of these shirt.
New York Black Yankees.
I've got Detroit stars, Pittsburgh Crawfords.
I mean, if you've never dug into the Negro leagues, go to the museum in Kansas City.
It's one of the best museums I've ever been to.
and these guys were the best athletes at a time
and they did not get to play in the major leagues
it's so insane to me that this was a chapter in our history
I mean there's so much of that history that's terrible
but the fact that these guys didn't get to compete
with the Babe Ruth's and the DiMaggio's
of the time Ted and Williams
I mean it is it is kind of
it is just kind of one of those scars on our history
like so much of it but I
love the Negro League stuff so I've got that personal collection
but there's so much there's so much stuff you can get at the closet come on down visit me i'm
there thursday through sunday but yeah it's been uh i've been busy with that i've been busy
with a lot of things i i've done a little acting i recently just wrapped production on the all
jewish reboot of ghostbusters so that's uh that's i've voiced the character of slimerwitz
so that's coming out soon very cool and um i'm staying busy with my ostrich farm guys i've got
you got ostrichs yeah i've just signed a deal with a sea world where you're
We're providing ostrich legs for the concession stands there.
So there's a lot going on in my life.
You're going to have to be very literal with Billy because Billy sometimes.
I mean, wait, wait, ostrich farms aren't that out there.
There's be, I mean, in California.
If you live in Los Angeles, I assume that there's probably not ground zero for ostrich farming.
I do love these like, you know, because I do, there's a part of it feels like a former athlete
or like someone who's sort of in semi-retirement where it's like, what's that guy doing now?
Like some of these guys, you know, buy ranches or they're just out there, you know,
cutting weeds or whatever they're doing, bushwhacking.
But, yeah, kind of like the idea of just moving to the middle of Wyoming or Montana
and getting an ostrich farm.
So, no, I'm not doing that currently, but maybe in my near future, Billy.
You're invited.
George Mager has like a bunch of alpacas, I think.
He's got alpages just running through his house, Willie Nillis.
Niceer than llamas.
Very nicer than lama.
They don't spit nearly as much.
A little follow up to Quizzi's closet.
I saw that you got a lot of Alex Trebek's clothing from his estate sale.
I did.
I did have a lot.
I sold it all off.
I did a fundraiser for the Lustgarten Foundation for Pancreatic Cancer Research.
So what I did was I went to the estate sale.
And I'm kind of, you know, look, the Alex Trebek estate can do what they want with their money.
I'm pretty sure Alex Trebek made a fair amount of it during his lifetime.
They made a lot more of it at their estate sale because they were not cheap at this place.
But I spent a couple racks at Alex Trebex Estate sale and then sold it and raised $2,000 for the Lescaran Foundation.
So I kept a few things for myself.
But no, he had this Trebek hockey jerseys with his name on the back that he was gifted from these teams.
He had some really cool stuff in there, man.
And it was a thrill just to be rifling through his actual closet, pulling out T-shirts from the 70s and 80s.
one says world sexiest game show host
I kept that one for myself
now we I don't think it's been seen much
of your side of the story in this
but everyone at least all my friends
were thinking that you would definitely be
the de facto choice for the next Jeopardy host
yeah
what is there any story I am I'm hosting Jeopardy
you haven't been watching it I know I host
I host Jeopardy every night
I haven't watched it a long time
there you go dude wait wait Billy
picked up on that one
one. Okay. So Billy understands fiction. Fiction.
But we were all just totally wanting you there and we were just like.
Yeah. Did you get a call? Did you, did you think about how this thing for it?
I, here's what happens. Here's what happened. Typical showbiz. So yes, I would have liked to have been in the running for it.
I'm not saying I deserved it or anything. I just, it would be nice to have been in the mix,
especially when they were doing all those celebrity, you know, guest hosts, right? They had Aaron Rogers and Anderson Cooper.
and Dr. Oz for crying out loud.
I'm like, if Dr. Oz can get a guest hosting spot here,
they should at least maybe offer to someone who has true game show hosting experience.
Alas, I did get a meeting after, you know, talking my agent and my manager for a couple of years there,
trying to like set the foundation for this, because we knew he was retiring.
He was announcing it.
You know, then he announced he got sick.
So we knew there was going to be a time when he'd no longer be hosting.
trying to set the foundation.
Well,
I did finally get a meeting with someone who knew the producer,
a friend of the,
like someone who was not working at Sony
or working with the team per se,
but someone who had the producer's ear.
And that was like going to be in the first step maybe.
So I had a meeting with him.
And he's like,
oh, this is great.
You know,
you'd be perfect for this.
But we're all booked up on the guest spots right now.
So,
sorry.
That was,
that's,
Take. They blew that one. Yeah, that's. But then, but then we find out it was all rigged, right? Because that guy, Mike Richards, the guy who was in charge of looking for the new host, put himself in the position. If you recall, this was the big controversy. So, you know what? None of that would have mattered anyway. It wasn't, wasn't my job to have Mike. Mike had the inside track the whole time. But it's still a bit nice to have a, even a sham trial, even to have just a one week chance to show what I can do. It would have been nice. But you know what? It is what it is. Say, Levy.
It was such a funny search for the next host
because he was the executive producer
and it was his call.
It's like when they asked Dick Cheney
to find who George W. Bush's running mate should be
and then he went out and interviewed a bunch of people
who asked, it's got to be me, George.
You don't need me.
I guess it's me.
Well, we'll let you go in a second.
I do have, I got one last question for you
because Billy and I were talking before you came on
about how, you know, the origins of HQ
through the founders were tied through Vine.
and how a problem that the creators of Vine had
was that the creators were getting bigger
than the platform itself,
or at least that's what they thought.
Did you ever experience that HQ
where it was like, at some point,
it was like, oh, it's the Quiz Daddy show.
We're tuning because Scott lives in my phone
and he tells me to do trivia twice a day.
Did the people that you work with,
was there ever any animosity where they felt
this guy is becoming too much of the star of the show
as opposed to the product?
Well, I think,
in the documentary
have you had a chance
to watch a documentary
by the way?
I have not had a chance
to watch it again.
I will.
If you,
when you watch it,
you'll,
there is,
I mean,
there's a famous story
of the sweet green
incident,
which is retold
in the doc.
Yeah.
You know,
it's not something
that I can absolutely
prove unless you get,
you get the guy,
my boss in a,
in a lie detector
and kind of press him
on this stuff.
But to my mind,
And to my mind, my perspective, there was the sense from this guy, Russ in particular, who was one of the co-founders of HQ and became CEO of HQ and he was on the founding team of Vine that he had been burned by Vine, right?
Because he created this thing that just completely got away from him, all these creators, the Paul brothers, all these people got so huge on there and then took their audiences elsewhere and monetized and became rich and famous.
And they sold their company to Twitter, which then promptly shut it down.
so he kind of lost the company he didn't he got rich he definitely made some millions on that thing but
he didn't get famous and i think he really wanted that next level of you know i mean i know for a
fact that that that russ of the guy who uh you know idolized the zuckerbergs and Elon Musks of
the world i mean he he he wants to be that celebrity entrepreneur so i do know that that is in the
back of his mind that he wants that celebrity element of entrepreneurship and being a tech executive
who's well known to the world.
He wasn't getting that with the Vine experience.
And I think there was a bit of professional jealousy seeping in once HQ started to get big.
I mean, I can tell you that for the first, you know, few months of hosting HQ, he told me very clearly, you know, any request that comes in for media, let's say a podcast like yours, want to interview me, could not do it.
I had to forward the request to him.
He was our PR team and he would shut it down.
I got emails from GQ magazine.
Hey, we want to do a store on you.
a little photo essay, I forwarded to Russ, never heard from GQ again.
You know, I had a gag order essentially on all media and that you have to wonder, well,
if you're the executive of a company CEO, wouldn't you want to get press for your host,
for your show?
Wouldn't that be something that you would actively seek out, maybe even hire a PR team,
spend five grand a month to get that kind of press from GQ and media outlets?
yeah that's a normal company would probably operate that way this guy wanted to control the narrative
keep everything to himself and if you look back at all the early articles of hq it's all about russ
and colin and vine founders and russ and my name is not mentioned in any of those articles
but finally there was a breaking point when someone from the daily beast wanted to do a profile
on me and that's i'll leave the cliffhanger to there for to watch the documentary because that's
when the s hit the fan i mean i'd be pretty pissed too if tic tic taut
just stole my concept and became absolutely gigantic i mean think about it yeah missed the boat on
that one yeah uh well but but but but it got to the point where too like just a little thing like
like you know kairons on the screen you know he wouldn't let me put at scott regowski how he wouldn't
let me shout out my social media channels yeah follow me on twitter i couldn't say follow me on
instagram it was all about hqqq follow hq you know it got yeah it was like what you know he was
very clearly uh trying to hold on to this thing and not not let it get out of his control but
lo and behold best late plans all right well i can't wait to watch the documentary it's coming
out on cnn on sunday if you're listening to me right now it's sunday march 5th and it's going
to premiere at 9 p.m eastern 6 p.m pacific and then it'll replay three hours later glitch the
rise and fall of hq trivia scott thank you for joining us quiz daddy it's been a pleasure to have
you on absolute pleasure best of luck i i hope i hope that your face will be popping up on my phone
again in the future. I believe it will. In the meantime, I'll be in Joshua Tree,
macrodosing myself. So, love it. Well, maybe it'll, maybe it'll appear. Maybe my face
will appear in the clouds. Love it. Okay. Sounds good, Ben. Take a, yeah, like Mufasa,
like when Simba's talking to his dad. Exactly. It'll be Scott out there looking over all of us.
Thank you, Scott. Appreciate it, man. You got it, guys. Okay, that was Scott. Scott Ruggowski.
Watch that documentary. It sounds interesting. HQ trivia, the rise and fall. Glitch.
It's going to be out on CNN on Sunday.
Check it out.
We have one last bit of show cleanup to do here.
I'm excited about this.
We have our giveaway of the courtroom sketch from the Epstein episode with, it was done by the guy that made our logo.
Yep.
For Macrodos.
Francis Barry, shout out.
Francis, he is the man.
He's very talented.
It's a cool sketch.
So we did a one day only giveaway or one day only sale of our 100.
episode anniversary shirts and a lot of you guys bought them. So thank you for that. We appreciate
it. We love you guys. We truly do. Shout out all the macrodotions out there. So we want to give
away this courtroom sketch to somebody that bought a shirt and then sent in the receipt to
macrodosing or to Avery. So we're going to do a live drawing right now on the show. I have the
list of every single person that's sent in this receipt and I'm on chat GPT right now. I'm going to
ask chat gpt to select one name from the list of people so i've got all the names ready to go
and we're going to have artificial intelligence pick who gets it all right so it's only fair
copying i'm pasting right now into chat gptt chat gpt what do you say who wins it can you just
tell it to randomize it yeah i gave it a list and said i said uh here's the exact input can you
select one name from this list
and then I gave the full list
of people. Chat GPT
says, sure.
I randomly select
Carol
Lipisco
from the list.
Carol L-L-L-L-L-L-P-S-Z-K-O.
I hope I said your name right.
L-I-S-S-E-S-E-E-S-E-K-O.
There we go.
She's on the list, right?
I think it's a he.
I got to look, I got to double check.
Okay.
Yeah.
Like Coroll maybe.
Maybe Coral.
Yeah.
Like Russian.
There you go, Billy.
Yeah, I actually don't know, but.
Is it C-A-O-L-E?
Yeah, let me.
No, it's K-A-R-O-L.
All right.
Coral, Carol, Carole, L-Pisco.
You have won the courtroom sketch.
So Avery, get back in touch with them, and we will send you that courtroom sketch.
He's a he.
He's a he.
Okay.
shout out carroll this is what he sent me hey avery here's the receipt for my macrodosing limited
edition tea i'll send it to you on twitter too in case you didn't see this keep up the good work man
love what you guys are doing well you just won the sketch brother all right love you carroll sweet
did we put the sketch on a t-shirt nope might have to maybe before we lose it not a bad idea
yeah i'll take a couple pictures 24 hours yeah all right well thank you to every everybody that
bought a shirt we love doing this show i'm humbled that you guys enjoy listening to it so appreciate
everyone that that bought one of those yeah bill how did atlantis go uh atlantis went okay it was um
i wish that you had been on for more of it yeah i couldn't figure out what you were trying to say
over that text message yeah dude atlantis there's there's a lot of real history that could indicate
that there was a place that was like atlantis but it was probably just like a you know
know how like some fantasy is derived from real life like you know like vlad dracula is based off of
lad the impaler like plato may have based atlantis off of a number of ancient mediterranean
civilizations that may have been affected by the black sea flooding which was like post ice age
a lot of glacial melting was pooling into the black sea which then may have hit the caspian sea
and then flooded the Mediterranean, wiping out various trading empires
or very big city-states that was basically a trading hub.
Yeah, that's kind of the conclusion that we came to also,
which was if it existed, it was probably in the neighborhood of Greece.
Yeah.
So that plate it would have known about it.
Also, while you were gone, I don't know if you were here for this.
We talked about draft day two.
No, he was not there.
Oh, they're making a draft day too?
They are.
We are.
Oh, we are.
Yeah, we are.
So we've got Aryan attached
He wants to run his character back
Oh sweet
And so we got to figure out what happened
Over the last 10 years
Since draft day came out
He's a GM now
Yeah that's what we were talking about that's what we were saying
Could I
Do you want to be a football player
Could I be like a number one draft pick
quarterback coming out
With character issues
Yeah
Nobody went to your birthday partner
Billy's like Johnny Manzo
Yeah
Secret character issues
No no Chad Kelly
Character issues
Okay
and but like good all right at football or as a person no both just like troubled good
good person troubled that's kind of how arian's character was in that movie yeah a little bit of a hot head
a little bit of a hot head but he like no no he's a he's like a really bad conspiracy theorist
but like really deep and that's his one character issue so you want to be the NFL kairie irving
well i like that yeah that actually okay
But, like, no one knows.
The media doesn't know, but they find out that he's, like, deep into some stuff.
Like, you're on, like, 64 Chan.
Yeah, and then he ends up being right.
And they, yeah, no, no, he's right, but in a weird way.
So he thinks the NFL is scripted.
Yes.
Right?
And then they hand him his script.
And his script is like, you're an upstanding member of this community.
And you keep your nose out of, like, weird shit online.
And then you just be a productive football player for us.
for 12 years.
And that's the script that you have to follow.
And you're like, I'm just playing the script.
I'm just playing my part.
Sweet.
All right.
This is coming together nicely.
Big T could be an O-T.
Yeah.
Like a very high value left tackle.
Yeah.
This has legs.
I got to figure out what I would play in this movie.
Or I'm behind the scenes.
Yeah, we'll sort this out.
Draft Day 2 coming soon.
Are you the scout?
Yeah, what are you?
I could be a vaguely European kickers that.
on his last
legs in the NFL
Okay
What is that
Nothing
Say it
No no worries
You and Aryan have like a
Like a compadre
Like I get you
I'm not very good anymore
No I was thinking
Like
Aaron's a GM
You're the scout
And you're just like
A lot of banter about these guys
Like you figure out
Like
Trying to find a role for Glennie balls
I think he needs to be in the movie
somehow. Yes.
An owner.
Yeah.
Or like a son of an owner.
Who's like taking charge.
When he takes his only stands money and he buys the Cleveland Browns.
From Haslam.
Yeah, I like that.
All right.
Stay tuned. We'll figure out more of this later.
All right. Love you guys.
You know what I'm going to be.