Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - NANODOSE: PFT Returns From Qatar ft. Jon Weinbach

Episode Date: November 28, 2022

On today's episode of Nanodosing, PFT safely returns from Qatar to tell the entire crew about his journey. Also, Jon Weinbach (1:05:07), the producer of Amazon's 'Good Rivals' and 'The Last Dance' joins the show. All of this and so much more on today's episode. Make sure to tune into MACRODOSING, every Thursday at 12am EST.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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All right. Welcome back to nanodosing. It's a nanodose. It is a very special one because we have a guest coming up in just a second. John Weinbach. He is working with Metal Arc Media and he did a documentary about the USA, Mexico sports rivalry when it comes to U.S. and Mexican men's soccer. One of my favorite topics. It's a great documentary. Check it out.

It's on Prime Video Sports Now. Oh my God, guys. I got recognized at the bar on Blackout Wednesday, and it was the bartender and he gave me my drinks for free. Blackout Wednesday. Mm-hmm. And he gave me my drink. free. It was so cool. I felt very excited. I'm very happy for you. Thanks. He was like he goes,

am I the only mad dog stamp here? And I was like, huh? Are we calling it? Are we calling it Blackout Wednesday? Is that the name for it now? That's what I call it. That's always been. For what you call it. Thanksgiving Eve. Yeah, Thanksgiving Eve. It's the biggest bar night. I've always thought that the Friday after Thanksgiving is a better bar night because you go out on that Wednesday and then you're super hung over for Thanksgiving. I went out on that Friday night too and it was a lot of people. I saw Brianna Chicken Friedrichs ex boyfriend. Oh, wow. Yeah.

I was with my parents. Are we cool with that guy or no? No. Okay. Did you say anything to him? Did she break up with him? Yeah, but then he was like mean to her. I'm all for women supporting women here.

Yeah, no, he's from my hometown. Well, fuck him. Fuck him, yeah. That guy sucks. I hope they put poison in his drink. Let's just keep all this barred in. Yeah. Welcome back to nanodosing.

It is now Tuesday. Tuesday in it. It is November 29th. And back from guitar, I made it back alive. I always knew that I would. It was never up in doubt. Thank you for the round of applause, Billy. Donnie is still overseas in Qatar. So I'm not going to say, here's what I'll say about Qatar, because under the understanding that Donnie is still there and still under the watchful eye of the Qatari people. It's a beautiful place which is fantastic government and really clean everything. And they've done, man, have they done a wonderful job bringing the World Cup to the Middle East for the first time ever? And with style and class and elegance and a forward thinking vision that only

the Amir of Qatar could pull off. So shed out the Amir. This episode of macro dosing is brought to you by the Amir. He has a 99.9% approval rating in Qatar right now, which is, you know, some people we're saying it's a little bit low, but we're confident that by Christmas time after the World Cup is over, it'll get it right back up there. I think maybe one or two of the people that are complaining about everything, they might be, I don't know, they might be like Argentinian fans that are pissed off about some of the off sides calls. So besides that, it's, I think it's gone off without a hitch. And boy, do we love Qatar. Isn't that right? If you had to give a top two or three critiques of Qatar, which you don't really have because

it was such an amazing place with amazing people and leaders. But if you just had to say, you know, a couple of things that maybe weren't what you expected, what would those be? The temperature is almost too comfortable over there. It was lovely. It's about 80 degrees. And so it felt like a little bit of summertime over there. You know, when I watch the World Cup, I'm hoping for a little bit of heat.

It is, you know, traditionally a summer event. And so I'm hoping for a little bit of heat get the summer. sweat going a little bit, have to feel like summer, man, this just felt like a really comfortable living room the entire time. So I guess my biggest complaint, Big T, is that I wasn't uncomfortable enough over there. Is it Johnny on a yacht right now? Is he on a cruise ship? He's been going, he's been bouncing around a little bit. There was a cruise ship that was docked nearby downtown Doha that was filled with a bunch of English people, some Argentinians, some Brazilians, a couple Europeans. And that's a friendly place for alcohol and that sort of thing. The cruise ship is allowed

to have whatever they want on it. So Donnie went on there to hang out with a friend and maybe have a couple drinks. Oh, cool. Does that mean he's not under Qatar's jurisdiction? No, he's still under Qatar's jurisdiction. He's just, he's parked in the bay, which is adjacent to the person golf there. It was kind of cool. Honestly, when I was flying out at Qatar, looking out around the Middle East. I've never been in Middle East before. We got to fly over Bahrain. We flew over all of Saudi Arabia, which if you are a fan of sand, then, man, do I have the country for you? Because Saudi Arabia is like, maybe someone can fact check me on the size of Saudi Arabia, but it feels like it's about the size of Alaska and it's nothing but sand everywhere. It might not be that big. Maybe it's like

the size of Texas. If Texas was a hundred, percent just sand that's what you're looking at with saudi arabia and it's different colored sand too in the east it starts with white sand and then that gradually fades into like a tan more oranger sand as you get closer to uh to africa it was cool flying over that part of the country and then we ended up going across egypt and then we went up to europe and then i felt the plane turn when we entered uh european airspace is because we were flying around ukraine because there's a war going on there. Would you believe that Saudi Arabia is 830,000 square miles and Alaska is 665,000 square? It's four times the size of Texas. Wait, so it's bigger than Alaska. Yeah. Yeah, okay.

All right. Yeah, the look I got from Billy was like, oh, maybe, maybe I'm wrong about that. Yeah, it is fucking huge and it's nothing but sand. But you know what's wild? Qatar is only the size of Connecticut. Yeah, Qatar is super tiny. And it's crazy because they're the sixth largest oil producer in the Middle East, but they're the smallest out of any of those countries. So like the luck of the draw, like when you think of oil rich territories like Russia or like Texas historically or Alaska, like they're all large land masses. But Qatar literally got so lucky that they got on one of the largest oil reserves. It was only in a place the size of Connecticut. Yeah, I've been reading up a lot about Middle Eastern history and the geopolitical state of the Mideast right now.

and it's fascinating how everything got divvied up there and how the different ruling families there are always there's like small amounts of infighting that go on all the time even inside these countries like Saudi Arabia has like five internal struggles for power that are going on at any given time amongst like the oldest families that live there and in Qatar it's this one ruling family it was founded by the emir's dad and the emir's dad passed it on to his son the Amir, who actually was like he was second in line growing up, but he kind of overtook his brother. The other would be Amir, and he stepped in front of him to get the crown from his dad. So his dad passed the crown down to him, and this Amir basically wants to turn Qatar into more

of a tourist destination, wants to leave a legacy of his family behind. So he decided the best way to do that would be to try to host the World Cup. And everybody laughed at the mirror and said there's no chance you'll ever do this. There's no way that FIFA would ever give a tournament to a country that doesn't have any soccer stadiums where it's 120 degrees in the summertime doesn't have any transportation and won't allow outsiders to drink alcohol or have sex. And the mirror said, watch me. And then he did it basically to make his dad happy.

He did it to like make his dad proud of him. It's kind of the entire gist of this. And also, he's, he did something pretty amazing, regardless of where you stand on the Amir's politics. He spent $220 billion in 10 years. That's pretty fucking hard to do. Well, they had to pay a lot of labor. Yes, Big Teak. Good point. And we can maybe revisit this once Donnie gets back.

Because Donnie's talking to a lot of people over there. So, he'll have a unique perspective. So we can maybe revisit that at a future point. point um but 220 billion dollars is a shitload of money to spend a lot of money in 10 years they built all these stadiums they built a new metro that's probably not going to be used after like five weeks it's just crazy everything over there is brand new there were McLaren's and uh Ferraris and Lamborghinis excuse me in the airport in the duty free shop so you could buy it tax free maybe the craziest part of the entire trip

was Thursday night Thanksgiving night we go to see a French Montana concert he's performing at one of the fan festivals he's about four hours late showing up maybe four and a half hours late showing up and he gets on stage he's like I almost didn't make it here tonight's crazy some crazy stuff happened

I'm pretty sure I know what happened like somebody had a shitload of weed and the Qatar people at the airport were like hey French you can't fly in to guitar with all these drugs and then they got to a fight and eventually they let him go my that's just my guess as to what happened so he shows up starts playing and then he does in an act of defiance he plays slob on my knob by three six mafia and I'm telling you like the courage that it showed for him to do that you remember the 76 Olympics when they got on the podium

the track and field athletes they put their left hand up in the air or the right hand whichever one it was to show black power during the national anthem that's basically what french montana did by playing slob on my knob in katar a country where premarital sex is forbidden so um it took some balls man took some balls what a what a powerful moment i was there for just a power a seminal moment in history it'd be funny of like 40 years 50 years from now when they start writing the history of the Katari Revolution and how Qatar became more of a westernized country. French Montana

covering 3-6 Mafia that will go down in the history books as the moment where like everybody's eyes opened up. It's like when Dylan and Hendricks and all those guys were playing at Woodstock yeah. It was touching. It was touching. Did he make it out?

I think so. I'm pretty sure French left. Yeah. I haven't heard any international incidents about French Montana yet so I'm I'm mostly sure that he made it out of the country. Donnie and I did do some things in Qatar that we did do some things and you'll have to wait for the video to come out to find out what it is or at least until Donnie's back from Qatar. But it was an interesting place, guys. I had never been to the Middle East before and I think I want to go back. It was super interesting. Now maybe not to Qatar itself, but go to other countries over there because

it's just it's a completely different culture how is the flight flight was pretty easy it was like 13 hours there 14 hours back and direct yeah direct flight so i basically just tried to sleep as much as i could on the way back i put on top gun i just kept rewatching all the combat scenes from top gun i did that like three times the way back yeah what's up aaron what up do i do that i do that shit all the time uh on the plane i just straight to the like the mission in the combat scenes yeah that was awesome it was a great way to pass the time mm-hmm I took a lot of pictures big T will hate this I took a lot of pictures out the airplane window I did a shit load of that I was like man this is beautiful look at it

I'd actually love to see some of those that's a place you've never seen before though yeah like a very different out-of-the-box thing uh-huh well mission accomplished I got a tie I went over there to bring home a draw Donnie and I were able to do that It felt like George Bush mission accomplished We could have won that game by two We could have Pulisich off the woodwork

We had some good goal scoring opportunity We were the better team in that game Aside from the first like 10 minutes of the game We were the better team So it was cool to watch All the British fans around us There's one like old British dude Two rows in front of us

That started dropping hard sea bombs Like 15 minutes in the game And he was just the most British dude ever He was like You're playing like a bunch of bloody cuts. And like that's a shocking word to hear when everybody's sober

because there was no beer sold in the same. Although I did chug. Donnie and I scald some bud zeros over there. But this dude was like just screaming at the top of his lungs. Like fuck you, you bloody white because you fucking cots. You proper cots. And everybody was just

looking at him like to please chill out. Please chill out. And it was a dude that probably could have done some damage if he was 40 years younger, but just as old, like formerly Jack up British dude screaming at his team because they were getting tied by the U.S. It was pretty sick. Did you try to get like mentally drunk off the Bud Zeros, like in your head that you felt like you were drinking real beer?

Yeah, I tried to get mentally drunk for sure. Yeah. I tried to convince myself that I was buzzing. There were also, there were other elements at play at the time. And that's all I'm going to say about that. That's all I'm going to say about that. Could be anything. We did not run Hong Kong back.

It was not an MDMA episode, but it was. But it was, we had fun. We had a fun time. What was your favorite thing you did in Qatar that wasn't like soccer? Favorite thing that I did in guitar that wasn't soccer. That's a good question. I think we went to the Suc. So the Suc is a downtown market in Doha.

And it's like a maze. You get lost in there so easily. There's a bunch of spice stores. There's a bunch of clothing stores. There's a bunch of tailors. there's one part of the souk which is just nothing but clone and perfume stores so you just walk through this part and you just you get lost in this crazy smell that just doesn't go away for a while but donnie and i and michael angelo went to a tailor in the souk because we wanted to get fitted for

the thobes which are those are the long white robes that they wear there and so we got we got three of those and they fitted us with hats as well and the katar people people in the middle east in general are they they love seeing westerners wearing their their culture's clothing they think it's very cool that when you're there that you get dressed up like they do and so we we asked to like get dressed up in traditional guitary outfits and so they gave us the kaffa the head part and the one that they gave us was actually the Saudi Arabia head scarf and so we started wearing that walking around the market and there were all these Saudi Arabians there that were like running up to us and like laughing and taking pictures with us and they kept adjusting our headscarf to make sure that it was set up in the correct traditional way and everybody's being like super friendly because they had never seen an American wearing this shit down there before they fucking played you they played you so hard you think they played us yeah I think without a doubt you because you you had no idea what they were putting on you well no I knew when when they brought out the red and white checkerboard one I was like okay I know I I've seen enough pictures of MBS to know that this is a

Saudi thing. Yeah, if you see a guy that's wearing an all white headscarf, that's Qatari. Gotcha. And then the red and white, that's, that's Saudi Arabia. So that was cool. And then we ran into a friend of the program here at macrodosing. Colonel Brady, he was the guy that walked across Antarctica. And so we found out randomly through a friend of a friend. He was going to be at this party, the first night that we were there. So we ran into him, had a good time and he was like, hey, tomorrow, me and a bunch of friends are going to the the Switzerland Cameroon game because they were over there with like SpaceX. And we ran to a guy from SpaceX too. And the guy was like, yeah, the, the Amir loves Elon. So he gave Elon a bunch

of tickets to his suite for like any game that you want. And so they hit us up the next day. They're like, okay, we're going to this game. You guys want to come? Sure. We'll tag along. So it's Thanksgiving day we go in we're put through like 20 layers of security it's crazy every like two feet there's somebody stopping us asking us okay let me see your papers where are you going who are you and then they finally led us into this very luxurious suite and it's uh it's with the ameer's translator his personal translator is there and then uh it's us Colin um and then a couple other guys from SpaceX that were there and he's the SpaceX guys were trying to convince us to go on a hike to the South Pole with Colin and we said no thank you yeah I said actually if you can get

Elon to follow me on Twitter I'll do it I'd be down I know you would be yeah for sure yeah but I'm trying to play hardball here and be like okay get get Elon to follow me on Twitter so I can I can get out of this this jail and then then maybe we can talk but I did Billy, I did volunteer your services in case they were looking for somebody to go either to the South Pole or to Mount Everest. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, we'll see what happens with that. So bottom line, we ended up having Thanksgiving dinner with the Amir's personal translator in the Amir's suite at the World Cup. And that was a crazy experience.

That was wild. Speaking of the 999 Club, I did see that there was a slip-up. You did hit a million at one point. oh for a couple seconds yeah so this is a big fuck you to Elon Musk because I've got I don't think that anybody has used the locking the account feature in the same way that I've used it because like there's a lot of bugs in that system there's a ton of them like if I lock my account and I see how many followers I have sometimes I'll let some more people in the door and the next thing I know it'll have me like, I don't know, 40, 50 people over a million. Even though I did the math, I was like,

no, I needed 40, 50 people to get to 99,99, 99. And so there's fucked up stuff going on there. Also, when you apply to join Club 999, the way that it works is when I go to my look at follower request tabs, it shows all the newest ones first. So if I want to go to the people that applied a long time ago, I have to spend like 15 minutes scrolling because it loads so. slowly. I've just been like 50 minutes scrolling down to get to the bottom of it to then let those people that have been in the line the longest end.

So it's tough. Elon, dude, you're fucking this whole system up. No disrespect. Thank you for the tickets, though, Elon. They were wonderful. They were wonderful. And, Ari, I know you joined a couple minutes ago. We're saying, we're all going around the room right now saying what our favorite things

about Qatar and its leadership are. Um Starts with a Q That's pretty cool Yep Yeah Q and no you Yeah

That is cool How many Q countries are there Shit Like Someone's saying This is one I'd say probably just Qatar

I can't think of another one Um Yeah I think it's just guitar Just one Just guitar Also Aaron Also Aaron

I heard that joke I thought it was a good one It was a good one. I missed it. To bad. Billy, what's your favorite part about Qatar? I just think it's so impressive that they literally hit the jackpot on the tiny parcel of land they have. That's the size of Connecticut that they hit that much oil.

Like, that was even before they used oil. I just, that's so crazy. Yeah. It's like that was the cool place for all the dinosaurs to hang out back in the day. and then they all died there pretty wild so like I was saying earlier nobody that is working

that I like interacted with is actually Qatari all the people that are from Qatar their entire jobs are just to like spend money and be rich and flex on people that's kind of what they do if you're from Qatar you have no job

you don't need to work you're rich as fuck and then it's all the other people that are migrants from other countries that do any of the actual jobs there So if you're talking to anybody face-to-face in Qatar, for the most part, they're not actually, they're not from there. They're just hired as laborers that work there.

And then they support the super wealthy people over there. So it's a really interesting place. And it was actually super easy to get around too. Very easy. They have Uber. They've got like their version of Seamless. We ordered Popeye's chicken on Friday morning. And it arrived.

And I was like, this is funny tasting. Popeyes. And it was because it was Popeye chicken. It was Popeye chicken and it was broasted not fried. I still don't know what broasted chicken is, but it was Popeye chicken. We had McDonald's over there on

Thanksgiving. That was interesting. Had the Mic Arabia wrap and had, what else do we have? Is that real? Yeah. Yeah, the Mic Arabia. Is the McDonald's there like awesome like European McDonald's or is it like yeah it was pretty awesome i'd say it was awesome had the coca cola freestyle machine they'd have

the mic arabia the mic royale sandwich a lot of cool stuff it was a great it was honestly a very it was a very fun time and uh i think that they probably don't want they don't want a brittany griner situation going on they know that like this is their country's only time to be in the international spotlight so they're trying to like not fuck it up and to relax a lot of the standards that they have. The one thing that I will say though, um, if you are a Muslim person and you're in Qatar, they will enforce their rules on you. They will enforce their rules hard. If you're a non-Muslim from out of Qatar, they're very much looking the other way. But they typically see a Muslim person that's vacationing there. If they do something that is haram or

forbidden, um, it's like you should know better and they fucking throw the book at you. Like what though? like give me that what like if you're if you're drinking in public if you're seeing like being inappropriate with a woman in their eyes in public uh then they're more likely to to give you shit about it and that goes that goes for outside of the world cup too like just in general it sounds like westerners get away with a little like with more things there because right now guitar is kind of in a uh a competition with the united arab emirates and they have uae has like Dubai. And people go to Dubai for vacations all the time because you can party there. They've got nightclubs. They've got cool stuff to do. And so Qatar is in a competition with them to try to get

more tourism. And if they want to get more people to come to the country, they have to relax some of the standards that they have. Because right, excuse me, right now UAE is just is crushing them in the tourism department. Now, quick question. We're talking about how the Qataris, they don't really work. Their job is to spend money. Do you know what the like economic structure of that is? Is it like a socialist socialism where everyone gets a share of the oil rights? I don't know. I think it's all based on the ruling family. And I think that there's just a shitload of family members. So those are the Qatari people would be like the ruling family, their children, their cousins, that whole thing. Those are the people that get shares of the oil rights there.

Wait, so everyone in guitar is related? I think like distant cousins, distant, distant, distant. And then I'm not entirely sure how that breaks down. But it's, it's the people that have been there the longest that are the guitaries that, that have the oil. And so those are those are the people that you see if they're wearing the, the thobes and then the white cafe is. That's the Qatari National. Huh. I'm trying to figure that out right now

Yeah It's a unique place man It's a unique place They have a $300 billion fortune From Before The petrol-based industry emerged Qatar was a poor pearl diving country

So their main export before was pearls That's crazy They've got this A giant pearl that they uh they put on display it's like a big statue that they have also um they're super super sexually repressed over there like a lot of other middle eastern countries are and so um they made the decision at some point maybe subconsciously that all their big structures are going to either look like penises or vaginas because they they never talk about sex um and it's definitely something

that's like looked at as being uh being like illegal over there. So there's like four different buildings that just look like giant dicks and at least three big buildings that look like vaginas. It's crazy. It's like everywhere you look. Do a lot of buildings? Did you do it? I'm going to say do a lot of buildings not look like dicks though. Yeah, but I'll show you, I'll send one to the group chat here of a building that is just straight up a penis with a condom on it. And, uh, and, and you, you tell me if that is just like any other giant penis building that we might have here in the United States.

Did you have any, um, food that was like, you know, kind of their culture's dish? Uh, yeah, a little bit. I had some, I had some, uh, kebab. I had some hummus. A lot of hummus, actually. And Baba ganoush and Mutabal, Mutabal, which is an eggplant type hummus. Some of that, they're, they're not really known for their cuisine. It's not, like, it's, like, it's, basically.

middle eastern cuisine i had a bunch of olives too do you see that picture that i just sent to the group yeah it's pretty that's a penis that's just a penis right it's a penis um there's several penis buildings there and then one of the stadiums that they built for the world cup is it just looks like a vagina from the top down so that's what that's what you do when you're when you're a little bit sexually repressed and it's also interesting to study how they're diversifying their money and how a lot of countries in the Middle East are starting, because they're smart. They know that they're on top of a finite resource right now

and they know that the way that the world's going, they're not going to have oil forever. And then at that point, what do you do with all that money, the source of your entire country's wealth? So they're already planning way in advance of what to do when that day comes. So they're investing in everything. They're investing in movies.

They're investing in sports teams. They're investing in airlines. like Qatar Airlines, which is the company that you use to fly in and out of Qatar, they're owned entirely by the Qatari government, which is just kind of crazy. Like they're trying to try to diversify their income sources so they don't go broke once the oil runs out. Wait, so Elon Musk is kind of the demise of their petroleum assets because he's creating electric cars, but they love them?

Yeah, they love him because he's rich. and also because like he he can work with him they're one of the real reasons why they love him is because he just he gives starlink to their yachts so he hooks their their boats up with internet and so like okay i love this guy that's hilarious it's funny y'all brought up Elon musk and companies owned by the government uh i had a tweet that you said you saw aaron i don't know if you saw it i just wanted to to mention it uh did you see elissa milanos tweet Arian? No, I don't know who that is.

She's an actress, very, very left-wing actress who tweeted the other day. She's a Democrat. She's a liberal, not a left-not-left-wing. That's what I figured. Okay, sure. She is a super lib. Okay. She tweeted, I gave back my Tesla, to whom or what is unspecified, probably because it didn't

happen. I bought the Volkswagen electric vehicle. I love it. I'm not sure how advertisers can buy space on Twitter. A publicly traded company's products being pushed in alignment with hate and white supremacy doesn't seem to be a winning business model. So many people have been pointing out on Twitter in the recent days. Volkswagen was founded in 1933 by the German labor front. You can Google their logo if you'd like.

You'll probably recognize it because that was the labor organization under the German government. The German government in 1933, for those who may have fallen asleep a day or two in history class, was run by the Nazi party. And the company's original name was Volkswagen Work, which literally means the People's Car Company, and was founded almost directly by Adolf Hitler. So that's a fun fact. But yeah, Alyssa Milano loves her new Volkswagen electric vehicle that notably does not stand for Hayden White. supremacy. So it's very good that she can realign her values with her vehicle properly. Well, yeah, I'm definitely going to get that Volkswagen bus when it comes up.

That car does look pretty sick. It does. That looks fucking dope. So I'm definitely going to cop that. I don't do the virtue buying because if you go down that route, you'll be wearing your own clothes that you make. you know what I mean like because every company outsources every company is capitalistic in nature and they exploit their workers and they sweat shops with Nike and I got it's you know what you're saying so it's like

would you go down that road of like I'm not buying here because of X it's a it's a you're not so buy many things and so it's just like you got to pick your battles that's just not a hill I'm willing to die on have you guys heard of iPhone City no so there's all these protests right now in China because it originally, you know, they're shutting down places for COVID restrictions. And there was a company that did COVID tests that was purposely causing a lot of false positives so that they could sell more tests because people would retest.

But I was reading about these protests. And turns out there's a place in China where the iPhones are made and they call it iPhone city because it's like huge like sweat shop type building. where they build iPhones and I've heard yeah have heard of the protest

though yeah yeah if you uh if you exist in society now chances are a shitload of your money

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drawing you can check it out right now it's available online on the barstle store check it out now for 20% off um and we would certainly appreciate it if you did that big t the ulyssum milano thing um it's very funny because she she her entire like persona has become very narcissistic where she's very wrapped up in her championing all these different causes online, but it's mostly to make herself look good. And you can tell it just by looking at her avatar. Her avatar is a picture of like people supporting her and she has a megaphone being like, go Alyssa. Well, she is a hero. I mean, that's warranted. Yeah. So Alyssa Milano, you might recognize her from, from what again? It's a great question. I don't even remember what Alyssa Milano got famous for. I got her. I was about to

say the being the Kentucky fan but that's not her that's Ashley Judd are you sure it's not Alyssa Milano because I was going to say isn't she a Kentucky fan that's Ashley Judd they they look fairly similar I think neither of I couldn't name a single thing either of them have ever been I'm gonna guess it wasn't Alyssa Milano was she not in Mrs. Doubtfire was she the daughter from Mrs. Doubtfire no that movie yes p. Ed I don't see her in doubt what Billy Why do I feel like she was on ESPN? I don't think so. She was on Charmed from 1998 to 2006.

Yeah, Charmed is what she's known for. Oh, she was in Commando. She played Matrix's daughter in Commando. It's a great movie. When you start Googling Alyssa Milano, the first thing that comes up is Alyssa Milano movies and TV shows. So a lot of people are also wondering what the hell she's ever been in. All you had to tell me was that she was in Commando.

That's a great, great movie. Um, listed under her Google, if you Google, Alyssa Milano movies and TV shows and scroll down to the one, two, three, fourth row, uh, Alyssa Milano sex tape is listed as one of her, uh, credits. So that's, congrats to her on that. Okay. Is that consent? Is it consensual? I don't know. Let's click on and find out. It's on IMDB. I think that she, oh, it's a sketch. It's a sketch. It's a sketch. Okay. All right. All right. I think Alyssa Malato has become one of those people that's, I think Alist Malato has become one of those people that's, I think that's, just shorthand for oh this is this is a lib that we all hate on the right wing you know yeah it makes I think a lot of right wingers think that Alyssa Milano is one of the most important figures in

in politics today when nobody really gives a shit about her do they hate her or Fauci more Fauci mean they obsess over Fauci oh shut up no Fauci for sure Alyssa Malta stupid she's not evil

you guys hear about the Valenciaga stuff Yeah, so I've heard a little bit about it. So maybe you can inform me. I'm sure that this will be good about what exactly is happening with the Balenciaga scandal and Kim Kardashian and Kanye West and all that stuff. Well, apparently, Belensiaga just posted some advertisements that sort of like portrayed children in like sexual scenarios with like teddy bears and BDSM gear. Okay, wait, so explain it to me again

Because the children What are the children doing in it? Is it like Because they definitely didn't have an ad campaign Where it's like naked kids So like here's one There's a kid that's holding A stuffed animal that's in like

Oh, okay So the teddy bear is in is wearing like weather Yeah, there's other ones Hang on this And like here Here's another one similar with stuff laid out all over the bed what is that one is that like handcuffs and stuff on the bed

and the kid standing there's kind of weird there were four and the fourth one was like papers laid out over a desk and the paper was referencing uh a child pornography court case or something that struck down part of the simulated child pornography act or so i saw i saw that one and then i saw somebody put a screenshot of the uh the page that was copied and put out on that desk and it was like a court ruling making like simulated child pornography either okay or not okay. It was like relevant to that ruling and it was like that's a very

strange thing for them to include in this ad. I believe it was a case that struck down part of the child pornography act or something. Okay. Yeah. Did they say what the point of it was? Like, I never saw an explanation for it. Balenciaga, I saw earlier today that they, They, they, like, fired the ad agency that they were working with that made this for them. They're suing them for $25 million for, like, neglect, and they released a statement being, like, it was not our intention to have any of that. Like, that was negligent from us and the production company that made that ad. So they're suing them, which is weird because, like, you approved it. And it's also a pretty big fuck up.

If, I don't, admittedly, I don't know that much about the world of high fashion. but i would i would assume that one of the major things that you're looking for in an ad agency is that they're not putting out like little hints of child porn one would think that would be like that would be the first thing i would look but then just look up the top design for blensiaga loda volkova and you're going to find some scary stuff from her instagram loa volkova her instagram i mean it's just it's just weird man oh so she's just like a weirdo yeah but a lot of it has to do with kids and it's just weird bro okay i'm seeing one picture she's wearing cannibal corpse shirt that's just that's a metal band spend it to the yeah i got it i got it i got it i got it is it lota yeah

it's private yeah it's private because she's all the photos got screen grabbed it's just some weird stuff. So what is what does it deal with Valenciaaga? Why do people like Valenciaaga? I don't know.

It's just like a big designer brand and Kim Kardashian was notably connected to it. The same was arrested that nonsense. Louis and Gucci. I mean it's it's just another

designer that people like and it's very minimalist. Okay. Yeah, it's like yeah, Louis Vuitton or any of those other brands. It's just people like it and it's expensive. Status. Yes. Yeah.

So wait. Now I'm going to read between the lines a little bit. Are some people saying that this is, it's more evidence of like the elite being child traffickers? Not yet. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, really? I didn't see that part. But just like. It's always linked. Look at what I just sent to the group. That's like a picture of

of her. and she has other stuff on her Instagram that's now private where it's like weird shit yeah she's so in this picture that Billy just sent over it's her holding two red children and she's got blood on her hands it looks like yeah yeah you're weirdo for sure do you think yeah definitely definitely weirdo do you think if she was actually like child trafficking and had a huge underground baby sex ring. She would be, like, showing up at fashion shows wearing, like, holding simulated dead babies. Look at, look at what I else just sent you.

There's more stuff from her Instagram that's just terrifying. PFTA, I feel like it's almost hiding in plain sight type of thing. Gotcha. I don't know. Okay, I also found this really disturbing, and I will go into Albana, Adam, later. But the next pictures are really something not for the faint of hearted. She seems to enjoy art and pictures that depict children either in distress, bondage, or something of that nature. And, oh, Jesus Christ.

Yeah, there's, uh... Dude, it's just weird. Okay. There's maybe we should look into these things. Uh, yeah, I mean, this very disturbing pictures that she has up on her Instagram for sure. Yeah. And where's she from? I don't know.

just I've had a fever for the past and how do we know here's another question I don't want to I don't want to have to ask this billy but how do we know that these are real now do we do any sort of background verification besides just like seeing that somebody replied to a tweet with them uh they were just on Twitter uh basically they were those are claimed uh photo photo screenshots photo screenshots of her Instagram account before she made it private. Okay. But we're not 100% sure that they're real because like there are some people that just straight up make fakes of things like that and then they reply and then those get

screenshoted and more people reply to other tweets before you know that they're fake. I'm just making sure that that we're not skipping any steps here. I'm going to be honest, I've had a fever for the past two days straight and I was looking at one of those during one of my like fever stretches and it was one of the weirdest things ever it is it is pretty strange uh arian what did you get into this weekend how's your thanksgiving christmas abs back on or are super bowl abs they back on now i'm focused i'm locked and loaded you know because i did a lot of man my mama threw down bro so i was inundated with great food and then she makes breakfast every morning they ain't got nothing to do with the place

And so it's like giving me this big just plate of just eggs and cheese and potatoes and Cream chili and it was just amazing man so we just had a good time kicked it with the fam I watched a lot of football we watched a lot of football that was that was kind of cool just just relax man didn't even get out the house much yeah would you think of the the Lions Bills game I don't think I saw that one there was another one on I watched Wait That was Thanksgiving

Wasn't it? Yep Yay, okay I saw that one That one was like When we were prepping the food And shit So I saw the one

afterwards What was after That would be The Patriots Vikings Or the Giants Cowboys I didn't watch football Holy shit

I thought I watched college football Then I never see None of them games That Vikings Pat's game was insane. So I actually didn't get to watch that. I tried to, but it was about 5.15 a.m. in Qatar.

And so I was out on the couch trying to stay awake for it. And right after kickoff, I fell asleep. But it looked like, I mean, credit to Kirk Cousins, he wanted a very primetime game, like the primest of times. And, you know, there was some referee discrepancies, according to Hank. So I'm not sure who to believe on that one. Well, it was actually, I was at the game, and they kept replaying that Hunter Henry catch at the goal line. And the ball, the way they were playing it on the big screen, the Jumbotron, it looked like the ball was loose.

The Vikings, the Vikings media guys kept replaying it and playing it when the ball was moving a lot when it would touch down the goal line. so as someone in the stadium you could kind of you would have thought it wasn't a catch but then I was looking at it on Twitter while it was happening and getting reviewed and I was like that's definitely a catch

but the way they were playing on the Jumbotron made it look like it was bobbled and there was no possession so Billy being in attendance at a Minnesota Vikings game how much shit did you get from Vikings fans being like fuck you you're from part of my take why do you hate us

well I was incognito I'm a Viking sympathizer as we know and that it's actually insane game ambiance like the crowd

in the energy is like comparing it to like since it's a dome and they have the drums and they do the skull stuff it is a hard place to play I would say it's loud in there but did anybody give you shit

no wow I was I had like a hat and glasses on you were super incognito I was I was with family I was like

I just want to know what Billy incognito looks like because you you'll never know you probably are very you still probably stick out like a sore thumb no

did you have like the nose with a mustache and the glasses on Exactly. No one will ever spy you. Yeah. Matt, Doug, how was your Thanksgiving besides getting a free bar tab? Yeah, that was awesome.

Shout out to that guy. It was really fun. Very chill. Kind of isolated. Hung out with my dog a lot. That sounds wonderful. Yeah, it was very chill. Ohio's very chill by the lake.

It was very nice. Yeah, very Ohio, though. Very Ohio. I love it. Avery? It was good, man. My weekend obviously sucked. with the Rangers losing

maybe the worst regular season game I've ever seen but nobody really cares to hear about that so it was fine you know my parents are divorced and then my girlfriend's parents are divorced so it's like seven different families you got to go please but it's good you just eat a lot and yeah

that's it that sounds awesome yeah a lot of holidays a lot of everything one Thanksgiving because of various families and people I was with at the time I had to go to three separate thanksgivings over the course of a day and uh man that was that was something else i spent like the entire next day just crapping yeah i was just i was just like permanently i think i brought a

a tv into the bathroom for black friday because i was like i'm not i'm not leaving here dude i unloaded in a stop and shot my whole thanksgiving meal it was it was ridiculous okay was an emergency situation pulling over no I was like, I was just kind of waiting. I was like, okay, I'm going to make it home. But then like my mom told me to pick some stuff up at Stop and Shop. So then I was just in the Stop and Shot and I was like, I can't do it. But thank God they had a bathroom.

So it was an emergency situation. Yeah, but I was stopping there anyway. I've been there. When we say unloaded, what are you talking about here? Dude. Series volume. Did you check for toilet paper before you sat down? Because at a stop and shop, you have.

have to put toilet paper down no to check to make sure that there was toilet paper there no no just shoot first ask questions later yeah i'd adapt improvise overcome all right um real quick going around the room rapid fire questions um what's the weirdest place you've ever taken to shit Weirdest place You've ever pooped I'll go first I crept in a lifeguard stand one time That's interesting

In it? Yeah in the lifeguard stand Like not in the toilet No in the lifeguard On the lifeguard stand On the top of the lifeguard stand Are we allowed to ask questions or no? Yeah sure we can ask questions

Why would you have any questions about that though It seems pretty straightforward I was mad at the lifeguard guard. And yeah, they were just acting like a dickhead. And so I crapped in their seat. Wow. Pretty simple stuff. That was a revenge. That was a revenge attack. It was a revenge lifeguard crap stand. Yeah. You just happened to have to shit when you needed to take revenge. Yeah. It was a perfect storm for that person. They knew who they are. The first thing that comes to mind is aqua dumps.

Yep, but I don't really, I do my best to not publicly booboo anymore. Like, I'll hold it, though, just because I, but the one time that, I think this actually really is the last time I've done it. Unless it's a dire situation, I'll get it in. but I was snowboarding and I just had I just had to let it out and I went in the bathroom

I guess it's not even that weird because it was in a bathroom but it's just that bathroom smelled like shit the whole the whole like it was one of those things was like I couldn't I almost threw up walking in there

it was just bad it was pissed all over it was weird dog I had to go I had to do it so and I had to like you know In them bathrooms, you had to set it up, right? So I got to take paper towels. Like, I'm wiping off. I'm wiping the joint off.

I'm putting paper towels on there. I'm three layering that thing up. It's just, it was just bad. Awesome. There's arguably no worse position to be in than having to go to the bathroom when you're skiing or snowboarding. All right, with all that stuff on, you got the thermals on. You have the big snow pants. You got the ski jacket.

Like, you don't want to be taking that stuff off. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think I've ever. had to shit somewhere that wasn't in a toilet. I did have to shit in LaGuardia yesterday. That sucked. Oh, yeah.

So good. Luckily, it was the new terminal. LaGuardia is good, though. The new terminal, it's better. But like, you still, you don't want to find yourself having to shit in a bathroom upon arrival. That's even worse, too. Uh, yeah, it was, uh, but other than that, this summer I almost shit my pants, uh,

walking around UT at like seven in the morning. I think I told that story on here. We were just walking around campus and, like, no, nothing was open because it was the summer and early in the morning. And I had drank coffee and it just came back. And luckily, I ended up getting into the football facility and going to the bathroom in there. When I was, I mean, 10 seconds away from shitting my pants. It was not a good situation. Actually, I think this was a toilet and was a bathroom.

But I was in a shopping mall. I was in a strip mall. And I was trying to look for a place to use the beach. bathroom I kept going in and asking they're like no employees only and then I went to a plan parenthood and you should have led with that you should have led with that's the weirdest place really were you getting booed like going in with their picketers outside like trying to keep you out no there wasn't any protesters it's just a it's just like it was in the shopping mall I love that

I can just imagine Billy like also sneaking out and he's ashamed because he just like went and had to take a big dump but he's like got his hat pulled down real low he's got the sunglasses on hoping nobody sees him leaving the Planned Parenthood but it's just because he took a giant shit in there

I shit my pants in third grade it was really bad I was sitting on the floor we were sitting in like a circle and I was sitting like crisscross applesauce and I just couldn't hold it And I shit myself and I just sat there. I sat there in my shit.

And I literally sat there and it just, it started to smell and that's when I knew it was over. People were just looking at me. And I was like, listen, man, it happened. I got to get up. How did you get up? I just got up and went to the bathroom. Do you think fall out on the way? I don't remember.

It was traumatic, though. The whole experience of just sitting in it was traumatic. I've, I'm like, that's the old. That's the old to be shit in your pants, man. Third grade? What are you like eight and nine? Well, here's the issue. When I was growing up, I didn't learn the, fully learn the concept of using toilet paper.

So I was a big baby wipes guy. Yep. And, uh, and, uh, because you know, like, so how some kids grow up and they just stick with their bottle for a little bit longer than they do. Me, it was toilet paper. Like, I just couldn't figure out the concept of toilet paper folding it, this and that. So I was just like a baby wipes guy. Nobody has ever done a this and that. that does that much work as what you just did right now.

It's a horrible look for me. But, yeah, I was a baby wipes guy and I didn't want to poop in the school bathroom because they didn't have wipes. They didn't have your wipes. Did you, what about just bringing your wipes to school? So that led to that, yeah. Are you still a wipes guy? No, not anymore, no.

What was it? What broke your condition? Wipes are better. Learning, hold on. Yeah, dude wipes are great, by the way. there's nothing against dude wipes because I actually I do use them like when we have them but it just became such a problem because A I was fucking up the plumbing in my house like I was just like flushing baby wipes and and and yeah it was it was bad it was really bad

it took that to them be like all right we need to put baby wipes in because there was a bathroom in our classroom but I wouldn't go in it because I would just hold it until like because my elementary school was like a block from my house. So I could walk home from elementary school and get to my house in time. And that, it was just a bad day. And it led to me, uh, me having to have baby wipes in the, in the bathroom in our classroom. They had to create an Avery rule. They had to create an Avery rule. Yeah. And yeah. So wait, wait. Did you ever leave school to go home just take a shit? No, because I never really had to. It was just a freak scenario where I just maybe had bad lunch or whatever and was it a fart that got out of control no it was straight like straight

lava a catastrophe it was a full on catastrophe we should bring jerry to talk about his worst yeah yeah you want me to hit him up yeah see if he's around but it was really bad and um yeah i think what led me to go to toilet paper was the fact that i couldn't just be walking around baby wipes the rest of my life it was embarrassing baby wipes are so useful to this day though i think i think they're great listen toilet paper doesn't completely do the job it's not it's not it's not wet enough it doesn't like you know get what you need to get done so it does make sense that i was a baby wipes guy for so long but it had a change had to be made now i have a like one of those built-in bidets in my toilet that thing's great oh uh what does that

mean, Billy? Bidays are great. Billy, what kind of implication were you ascribing to having a bidet? That's fucked up. Oh, no. No, it's just fun. It's a real backtrack, huh? European.

So, say what you want to say. Yeah. Are you a bidet guy, Big T? No, I've never used one. I'm just curious what what that meant, what you said to Avery. I'm, what do you think I'm getting at? It's, it's like you would be a bidet guy, like people who like bedaes.

It's like funny. That makes sense. Okay. So in Qatar, they have, not only do they have toilet paper and someplace have bidets, a lot of the toilets have a little hose. You know, like, when you use a sink and it's got that little retractable hose that comes out with a tiny handle that you squirt to like put on your dishes, toilets over there just have one of those just on standby. next to the toilet so you can spray your asshole down with it like manually and it's crazy because the the volume of water that comes out is almost like a garden hose so you spray yourself i had to try because it's like okay you know i didn't want to be rude right i wanted to try the new custom

and i sprayed myself and then just water goes spraying everywhere and it's like wait this is this is now ass water that's now sprayed across the room because it deflected off my butt yeah And so then I stopped using the detachable hose next to the toilet after that. No, there's nothing wrong with a bidet. It's precise. It gets the job done. I don't. Yeah, nothing wrong at all.

I, now, I tried my first bidet like nine months ago down in Lake Charles at the, at the La Beres Casino down there, where Aryan and I ended up going on a vacation a few months after. But I recorded myself the first time I used a bidet because I didn't know what to expect. I accidentally cranked it on like full power and it was too much Yeah, you have to ease into it It was too much action

So I learned how to use the bidet after that Billy's just like giggling like The look on Billy's face is like You guys are gay Exactly 100% Yeah, because you let something touch your butt hole Yep I'm not I'm not

It's just it seems like you guys have spent a lot of time I literally said that was the first time That was like nine months ago I'm not I'm you know whatever it's just funny do you not think it's funny why are you afraid of something touching your butt I'm not I've used bidetis do you wipe your butt yeah it's sauce that's that's what I was saying I was took an aqua dumb when I was like but wait you said that you've used tons of bidet but the fact that we have used a bidet in the past you're like really

I think owning owning a bidet is different than coming encounters with a bidet it's an attachment to a toilet seat that just shoots water into your ass something wrong with that it's hygiene bill yeah come on billy okay but i i just remember i took an aqua dump once in a lake i was like eight and i was pretty far off shore so then i did it and then swam back to shore and my shit washed up oh dude what the fuck your shit washed ashore and someone and someone goes who the fuck shit

okay don't clip any of these shit clips I need to ask you guys a question being the only girl in this podcast real quick if we're speaking about pooping and stuff

you guys all know you have to wash your butt in the shower right? Yeah I wash my butt There's like a new thing on TikTok where girls have to tell their boyfriends

that they need to like spread the cheeks in the shower. Yeah, some guys are gross. Some guys are just gross when it comes to that. If you're listening to this and you're not watching your, washing your butt immediately. Wash your ass. Hey, Jerry. Hey, Jerry just, yeah, have a seat on the couch.

Jerry, we were just, we were just shooting the shit. Just talking about times that we've put ourselves and, uh, no, you don't have to use headphones. Actually, yeah, maybe because Arian and Billy are on the, on the other line there. Aaron, I'm not sure if you met, have you met Jersey, Jerry? I believe so, yeah. Okay, cool. We met once, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right.

He, uh, he lit the $100 bill on fire. Yep. Oh, yeah. I was shit with names. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. That was, that was a very good experiment. Yeah. Um, so we're talking about different, uh, different times of shit ourselves.

Avery grabbed himself in third grade and, uh, he said it just went everywhere. Uh, he was sitting crisscross applesauce on the floor and they had to install an Avery rule in his school, which is you have to have, you have to have, uh, baby wife. in every bathroom, so that Avery would feel comfortable going there. Everyone is familiar, a lot of people are familiar with your most recent experience that you had on the train, which we've recovered from, we move on. Yeah. Is there any other recent event that you've had like that besides the full-on blowout?

No, no, but, you know, looking back on it, the problem started about a week prior. For some reason, I was having a hard time getting to a bathroom. So I don't know if it was like a week long thing where I just couldn't make it, but I think the problem started about a week prior to the actual incident. So there were like little rumblings of there being an issue where it was like like shart problems? I never sharded. I never sharded. I just there was a lot of close calls that week. Yeah. That happens to me all the time when I get into a bathroom and I see the toilet and I like rip the pants off. Yeah. And then very last second I sit down and just go to town. I always think to myself like was I actually a half. second away from shitting everywhere. Oh yeah. Have you ever done the the cough or the sneeze? Yep.

And then you make a mistake. Yeah. Yeah, that's bad. The cough is what does it for me. Yeah. And you know the second. There's also, I don't know, maybe it's because I'm getting older, but there are times where I think I've made a mistake. And then I check and I'm like, I'm fine. Yeah. But that happened to me on the plane, on the plane right back from Qatar, actually. I was asleep on the plane right back. And then I woke up because there was like a cough fart moment that I had in my sleep, but if you fart in your sleep, you don't know if it's a fart or if it's a shit. You think that you might have shit yourself. Oh, yeah. At night. Oh, yeah. But fortunately, fortunately everything was clean. All right, well, just see if you had any other incidents.

No, not really. I've just been playing Nicole recently. I have no close call, so up and up. The day after, the couple days after, were you like extra cautious, like taking more shit than you thought necessary? I didn't think the video would even be a big video. I texted Dan. I'm like, I think, I mean, you see a lot of shit here. I was like, I don't think this is something I would post, but like, do you think I should? Is it kind of funny? He's like, dude, you have to post it. And I didn't think it'd be big.

I just thought it'd be like, whatever, 1,000, 2,000 likes or something. It just went crazy. Now there's times where I'm walking down the street for a slice of pizza or something, whatever. It's like, oh, Jersey, it's a catastrophe. I'm like, yeah, yeah, it was. When you turn the camera over. to the pile of clothes. That was like one of the more shocking.

Yeah. Because it was like a diarrhea, diarrhea. It was like a yellow green diarrhea. Rancid, bro. Yeah. It's like I ate a dead possum or something. Yeah. That also had diarrhea. Yeah.

It's just bad all the way around. Sad day. Yeah, it was. All right, Jerry. Thank you for joining us. Who are you on? We're on Steeler tonight. We're on Deontte Johnson touchdown tonight.

Okay, because Avery's putting this out extra early. Yep. So, Deonte Johnson, touchdown tonight. Yes, sir. Got it. Very cool. Thank you, Jerry. You got it.

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There's another one coming out this week. Correct, Thursday. Okay, coming out on Thursday, check it out. It traces back and documents... The third episode comes out Wednesday. It comes out Wednesday. Check it out. It's on Prime Video.

I cannot wait to watch this because it's all about the political, social, and sporting layers of one of the biggest sports rivalries of the last 30 years. And again, it's called Good Rivals. It's centered around the United States and Mexico men's soccer teams. And I guess when I'm thinking about the rivalry between those two teams, I've seen countless matchups between them. There have been near fights. There's been some incredible games. I think back to 2002 as the most important part.

Maybe that's just because I'm an American and we ended up winning that game in the knockout stage at the World Cup. but that 2002 matchup between Mexico and the United States, I remember staying up until like 3 a.m. And I didn't, I couldn't get it on TV because they were going to play it later on ESPN and do a rebroadcast. So I was listening to the Spanish radio call trying to figure out what the hell was going on in that game when Claudia Raina made its famous run down the sidelines. And it was an incredible moment.

So go check it out right now. it's an absolutely fascinating topic to me. What made you want to work on producing this documentary? Well, I mean, I'm a diehard fanatical U.S. soccer fan, soccer fan in general, but particularly U.S. soccer fan. I mean, I'm 46. I'm old enough to remember the days when you had to defend being an American soccer fan. Just, you know, both from, you know, the funny part is my older brother is now a massive fan,

but he used to make fun of me from being a soccer fan. And there was just sort of this built-in American idea that soccer was other, that was for, you know, the foreigners, was for Europeans, which was for South American. So to put it mildly, this is a very personal project for me and also a big professional. It's our first project to make air at Skydance Sports, and we launched the division about a year ago. But look, I played, I mean, I'm one percent of sports geekery across the board, basketball, soccer, baseball, football. But soccer is the sport I played the longest. And I think sort of by by dint of having grown up in Los Angeles,

which has always been a really active soccer landscape. And from the first days of the sort of the modern era of American soccer, really from the 90s when we first qualified for the World Cup in 1990. About half that team was from UCLA. I saw those guys practice in 1990 at UCLA. I went to the World Cup in 94. for I was an intern in Major League Soccer in the second year of its existence.

I wrote about it as a journalist. So all of those things made me highly, highly interested. And sort of when we launched Skyden Sports, one of the topics I was interested in pursuing for our group was the U.S. Mexico rivalry. Well, it turned out John Skipper, the former president of ESPN and Deirdre, Ben, the woman who runs unscripted,

they had the same idea. They had been starting this project, initially sort of as a feature and came to me and came to us and said, hey, would you be interested in partnering on it together? And we expanded it to a three-part series. And, you know, it was just one of these things. There aren't when you're, you know, in sports storytelling, any kind of storytelling, but particularly in sports, you know, what are those topics that it's more than a game? You know, it sounds like a cliche, but, you know, where there are storylines that go beyond, you know, the statistics, that there's politics, that there's culture, that there's identity.

And this really hits a lot of them. Obviously, there are other great soccer rivalries, Brazil, Argentina, England, Germany, England, France, you know, all over the world. But none are quite, I would argue, as unique as the U.S. in Mexico because of the relationship between the two countries and also a demographic thing. As hardcore as Brazil Argentina is, there are not 30 million Argentinians living in Brazil wondering which culture they belong to. They're not 30 million Germans living in England wondering, should they root for? England should the group of Germany. That is the case in the United States in Mexico. And it's also one of the, you know, only spheres of sports where the United States is an underdog, right? It has been, you know, obviously we've leveled the playing field in the soccer respect and the men's game over the last 30 years. But for, you know, 200 years, what did Mexico in one way, Shibber or other, always have over the United States with soccer? And that is no longer of the case. And I think that was really interesting storytelling. And that's, you know, a long way of saying why I got into the project. That makes sense. To me, it, it felt good the moment

where I realized that we actually did have a rivalry against Mexico and soccer. Because, I mean, I'll relate this to being a, I'm a Washington commanders fan. And, you know, for a while, nobody really cares about my team. Why would you care? Why would you spend any effort being a rival against the commanders. You know, in the NFC East, it's largely become the Dallas Cowboys and the Eagles. That's the biggest rivalry that we have. And I'm always here like, man, I really wish that somebody would hate me because at a certain level, it shows respect if they respect you enough to hate you. And for a while, the U.S. didn't have anybody that really cared enough about us to hate us in soccer. When would you say became that moment where it became a legitimate rivalry where Mexico and

Mexican fans were like, we hate the U.S., we hate that soccer team, they are our rivals. I would say, there's a couple, and we actually, you mentioned the O2 World Cup game, that's obviously the biggest. I would say the rivalry becomes truly real in the 90s when the United States hires the former Mexican national team coach Borough Militinovich to coach the team at the World Cup, and we start getting some results. The United States starts getting some results against Mexico in the United States. United States. I would say it really turns into a real rivalry when in 2001 I was actually at this

game in Columbus, Ohio, the coldest I've ever been at a sporting event. The United States plays Mexico in a World Cup qualifier in Columbus. It's really the first game when the United States has a real home field advantage. And that becomes a signal to Mexico that now not just our team has improved, but the culture has improved. And without a doubt, the thing that sets it to another level is the World Cup match, which we flag. It's actually the first thing that's flagged in the series in episode one, and then we really go deep in it in episode two, because, you know, Landon Donovan says it in our show, says, you know, we could go another 50, 100, 200, 500, a thousand years without playing Mexico in a World Cup, just because of the nature of it's a tournament

in and, you know, who knows if you'll ever play one another in a knockout round match. And that's on the world stage and a neutral site. And the United States wins to nothing and fairly convincing at that. And so I think that's, it takes it to a whole other level. And basically over the last really 20 years, you've seen this roller coaster of U.S. wins, particularly on U.S. soil, Mexico winning in Mexico City and convincingly. And then in between some of these regional games, the Gold Cup or the Concaf, it was the Concaf Cup one year, where Mexico wins on American soil, generally in cities that have a large Mexican population like Pasadena or Dallas or where have you. And the thing that I think also makes it really timely is that now, you know, as the United States has developed a proper youth training system and we have a real professional league with academies of their own, you have what really is unique, which is you have Mexican-American kids born in the United States, trained in major league soccer academies, choosing to play for Mexico or having that choice, being on the fence.

That is truly unique in the world. There's lots of places where players make choices. Like in France, there are a lot of players from the French diaspora, like from the Caribbean departments, Guadalupe, or places, you know, in French Africa that they choose to play for, let's say the African country, because of playing time. But they're not neighbors the way U.S. and Mexico are. Very different. Erin, you have anything? Yeah, I was going to ask kind of exploring that.

that dynamic, I just kind of touch on, like, what do you, what was your kind of observation of exploring that dynamic from the unique, you know, melting pot that is America and having Mexican-born citizens who enjoy the country that they live in, but still feeling that pride to their native homeland and exploring that dynamic through the medium of sport? Like, what would you say, you know, the nature observation? I think that's what makes it so unique because, again, there are instances. And by the way, in a lot of sports, we see it in, you know, there are like Olympians who will play for Russia because that's, they have some weird connection to Russia and they can get

playing time. But it's very interesting on the U.S. Mexico soccer rivalry because of the power dynamics, right? And the U.S., one of the Mexican interviews we did, a very prominent journalist, said, you know, we, Mexico have always been that awkward neighbor, you know, and the United States dominated us politically, culturally, economically, but soccer was the one place that we could have pride, that America could be beaten that. And so you have this situation where many of Mexican-American kids, very proud to be American, identify as American. but something is calling them culturally to play for Mexico to wear those colors. You know, it's sort of like, you know, if you have a family where you have some kid, maybe one parent went to Michigan, one went to Ohio State, you know, or UCLA and USC here in L.A. Who does the kid play for? Who do they root for? It really comes down to where they feel

it in their heart. And obviously, hey, can they get playing time? You know, is the opportunity there. But I think it's very unique in the world where you have it, where the countries are actually physically neighbors. And we're so interconnected with Mexico in ways that I think people don't even realize, you know, not just because of illegal immigration or Taco Bell, but because, you know, this is a significant, you know, a group of people who make, who comprise America. And so, again, you have instances of this in other countries, like, look at any, by the way, look at any national team in the world. They're not all pure-bred Germans or pure-bred Italians or pure-bred Brits. Look, the Brits have players who are basically Ghanaian who are Nigerian all over.

And it's just, that's kind of the world we live in. But again, when it comes to this rivalry, what makes it so kind of multi-layered is the very personal dynamics. I mean, in our show, we focus in on Landon-Donovan for the U.S. and Rafa-Marquez for Mexico. Now, Rafa-Marquez, listeners may not know, you know, this is a guy who played in five World Cups who was an anchor of, you know, the Barcelona defense. This is arguably the greatest team in the history of international soccer. And he was really kind of, both these guys were symbols of their country's respective like dreams and nightmares. Because when Rafa played against the United States, he would fail miserably, got a red card against in the World Cup. And then scores a huge

goal for them to beat the United States to break the curse of Columbus. in 2016. But for Rafa, it was very personal. His grandfather had abandoned their family to go to America and caused a lot of pain. So the rivalry was very personal to him. And that's kind of the way that what makes the show unique. And I think people watching and like wondering, how did the U.S. get into soccer and where's Mexico and all this? I think this is a great way to, you know, sort of learn more about it from a lot of different angles. Yeah, this is what I love about international soccer that you don't get it the club level doesn't it's never interested me nearly as much but the world cup and and the qualifiers and the the regional tournaments that's like that's honestly like

geopolitical stuff sometimes that gets woven into the fabric of the games and it's just fascinating it's it feels like the stakes are so much higher in international soccer than they ever are in club soccer billy do you have any questions when you are making uh this documentary Did you ever find that it was hard to get individuals to tell their story and they were quite reserved? Because looking back at the last dance, you got a lot of great revealing stuff. And sometimes I was wondering when watching some of these is how exactly are you able to sort of peel back layers on these people and get them to really tell their own stories? You know, I mean, look, every project's different. I think, you know, I've had a good fortune to work on some, you know, high profile.

sports projects, just talking about international. I just directed a film for Netflix called The Redeemed Team, you know, talking about the U.S. team from 2008 with LeBron and Kobe and Dwayne Wayne, and we interviewed Pao Gasol for that. And he was representing Spain. I think it's a kind of a funny gumbo of factors that leads people to be revealing. I think there needs to be a certain amount of time that's passed. And I think there also needs to be the sense from the subject that the interviewers

are not looking to do necessarily gotcha stuff like oh we're going to catch you in an embarrassing thing but are also being fair meaning we wanted to have both perspectives this couldn't just be like a raw raw USA thing where oh we're the big underdog and screw Mexico and at the same time it couldn't just be this thing about how Mexico dominated the US because that would get old and I think there really hasn't been the definitive snapshot of this rivalry and I think we came in to to it with really eyes open about that and giving our subjects the opportunity to talk about this. And it wasn't also the definitive history of everything that's happened in U.S. soccer and everything that's happened in Mexican soccer because that's such a big topic.

It was really, we wanted to kind of hold it to the rivalry and how those, and get their people's best feelings about it. And we were able to get a really great selection of both voices from the American side and the U.S. side. And, you know, they were awesome. That's the short answer. I'd like to say, oh, we were just such great interviews. But, I mean, I think our team did a really great job. We had an international team and our director is Nicaraguan. So he's kind of Switzerland and all this.

You know, we had American producers. We had Mexican producers. I was lucky enough to conduct the Landon Donovan interviews with our director, Gabrielle. And, you know, I think Landon may have had a reputation earlier in his career for being maybe not the greatest interview in the world. He was fantastic, really vulnerable. really candid, and as was Rafa Marquez. Yeah, Donovan, he's always seemed like pretty reserved to me. But when I would watch him play against Mexico, that's when like that little bit of fire

would come out. He would kind of change and get aggressive. He would yell if players were flopping. Did you get into the flopping at all? Because that's the part that that would piss me off the most about playing against Mexico because I knew, okay, it's going to be physical game and they're going to be going after each other, but as physical as it gets, the second we touch them, they're going to fall down and they're going to cry for about 10 minutes and waste all the time. Did you ask any of those

questions? Well, the answer is it's probably the one part of the game. I would say two things. The diving, the culture of diving and the clock and just the nature of extra time and it seeming kind of random are sort of the two elements that bother Americans. And to a certain doesn't bothers me. I mean, I think if we're really being honest, isn't there that same culture of fakery in the NBA? Isn't there that same culture of fakery in pro football with every damn play them crying for past interference or holding? So, you know, you could make an argument either way. Sorry, Aryan. But like, I think that if anything, what some of the later, more and more recent Americans would tell you is, hey, this is the way the game is played and we're naive

if we don't play that way. It is a part of the game, just like, you know, kind of, you know, every sport has its, you know, unwritten rules and dirty tricks. And in soccer, time wasting and diving is one. I don't like it, but it is part of the game. It's funny you mentioned that about because I was watching the Argentina-Mexico game. I'm like, Jesus. There's going to be like 90 minutes of extra time because of all the diving. It's an art form to those guys sometimes. And I mean, look, haven't we seen this in the NBA, by the way? Come on. Oh, yeah. Vlade or Bill lame beer or, you know, Michael Cooper for my beloved Lakers would flop all over the place. Or LeBron. Yeah, LeBron. He likes to play it up too. Yeah. It was just always, it struck me

that in the U.S.-Mexico game, I just knew that that game in particular was going to see more embellishment than we typically see. Big, do you have any questions? Yeah, so you mentioned the redeemed team, which I watched recently, one of my favorite documentaries I've seen a long time. And I think PFT talked about The Last Dance. I was curious out of this one, the good rivals, and those two I just mentioned, is there a best story or line that someone said or something that didn't make it into the documentary? What's the best thing that got left out? Of all three?

Of anyone, yeah. Let me talk about good rivals that didn't make it. is a great story that didn't make it because, unfortunately, footage-wise, would have been challenging, which is when Landon Donovan was actually on the U.S., he was already on the national team, but he was on the U.S. Olympic soccer team was trying to qualify for the 2004 Olympics in Athens. And he created a bit of an international incident by peeing on the field in Mexico. he was caught and it became a kind of an incident and he had a very funny story about it a whole anecdote with him and Bruce Arena we could not get that one in that was a great

anecdote I'm trying to think of others in terms of specific why are you not allowed to pee on the field yeah exactly that with that the I think in a certain way with good rivals we had really an embarrassment of riches on it because there were there's so many many games where there was, you know, shit talking and all kinds of things going on between the teams. I mean, there's a really great moment in episode two, and I don't want to ruin it, but it's talking about the World Cup game against Mexico, U.S. versus Mexico in Korea. There's a great moment between Landon and Luis Hernandez from Mexico, who if you remember was the guy with the long, flowing, on locks. It looked like out of a telenovela, super hateable.

and, you know, from a U.S. perspective, and they had a really interesting, let's call it, they had a discussion, a heated discussion where Luis said some things and Landman said, oh, that went too far. So I'd encourage you to watch that. Interesting. So what's a topic of a documentary that's next up for you, one that you would like to make, maybe that you haven't even started making yet? Oh, there's a bunch. I mean, Listen, there's probably three or four big white, you know, whales in terms of great topics. Andre Agassi is a great one.

Yeah. The Dallas Cowboys of the 1990s is a great one. You know. Andre Agassizzi would be, that would be fantastic. People don't remember that Andre Agassiz, at least some of maybe our younger listeners, don't remember when he came out and he had the mullet. He was like the bad boy. He was like the first real bad boy of tennis.

Well, he's also, yeah, he's got a fast. book that he wrote. John McElroy. John McElroy. Oh, McEnroe, I would have said, but they just did a really good

showtime doc on McEnroe. And there's, those, I mean, certainly, you know, the Niners of the 80s are pretty good material to.

I mean, you work with the metal art guys. I'm friends with, with Mike down there. You did a musical. What about a musical about the Florida Gators teams of the late 2000?

that's another one you know i think that um i'm trying to think there's there's a few i mean those i would say the cowboys the niners uh probably some sort of roger federer or or i mean the tennis area i think is really interesting um you know between federer nadal and also Andrei Agassi, I think those are really, really good territory. I mean, in a certain way, obviously, I would have said the Shaq Kobe era Lakers, but a lot of that is sort of covered in the Hulu series. I think Pat Riley is a fascinating character. And so, you know, there's a number of them.

Phil Jackson, too. I feel like Phil Jackson. Yeah, listen, Phil Jackson, too. There's about, you know, more or less an episode of The Last Dance that's not entirely, obviously, the whole Phil Jackson story, but a lot of it. Oh, Popovich. That would be dope. He's because he don't really get a lot of the shine.

I feel like he deserves because he's in a small market. Yep, yep. I'm trying to think off the top of me. That's probably my head would go. Yeah. Aaron, do you have any more questions? No, man. I just appreciate the work that you've done.

It's really dope. I think documentaries are, I can't get enough of documentaries in general just because they're just like, You know, they're telling the story of our culture in real time, and you do a great job. So, you know, I don't have a question, but I just really appreciate, you know, what you've done because they're really, really dope. No, I appreciate it. Yeah, no, just start it, complete it, good rivals. The first two episodes are out.

The third one will be later this week. And, you know, let's hope for good results for both U.S. and Mexico, particularly U.S. tomorrow against Iran. Yeah, yeah. I can't wait to watch this series. This sounds fantastic. I guess the one last thing I would have, since you were involved, in The Last Dance, what was that like for you? How involved were you in the discussion of moving the debut up as COVID hit and as America was all a lot? We were locked inside our houses. We're going

so crazy that like we thought Tiger King was the best show that we've ever seen as a nation. And we were just all looking for something to enjoy together at the same time to make it feel like life was still going on. How involved were you in the discussions of when to debut that documentary series. I wish I can claim credit for that. That was a master stroke, kind of a team decision, but really led by kind of Conrischel at ESPN, who's now, has his own very successful production company, Mike Toland, who's run Mandelaide Sports Media and the folks from the NBA and Jordan. I think, you know, it's interesting. It was a very long process from literally ideation to seeing the project debut, you know, literally five years. I don't know. I don't know.

I think our initial air date was June. And I can tell you that when the decision was made to do this scheduling of the five consecutive Sundays with two hours, I think we had more or less seven episodes completed, but three not. So in fact, I think the last interview that was done for the show was John Stockton in Spokane, Washington. And it was a very interesting scenario because Jason Herrer, you know, unbelievable job as the director was in New York. And there was a moment, if you remember at that time, Washington was sort of Seattle was ground zero for COVID. And there was about 48 hours where I was going to go to Washington to maybe do the interview because we couldn't risk Jason getting stuck,

you know, in Washington because of COVID. And literally that's how fast it all came together. We were still, there was still an interview to be done. But it ended up obviously being, you know, greatest scheduling decision, and certainly in sports documentary history, because I don't think any of us could have predicted that, you know, it would literally be the only thing on. You know, it was because it's not even that we landed in the pandemic. It's when in the pandemic, the show landed, it was sort of at the height or the low point of year and just life shutting down completely. I mean, one of the greatest things,

probably not replicable about the project is that each episode felt like, you know, the World Series because it was, you know, the Super Bowl, because there literally was nothing else on. Yeah. And so it ended up obviously being a master stroke. But I wish I can claim credit for that. I cannot.

It was as close to live TV as we could get at that point, which we all, I think as a country needed. Yeah, Bill, you have something else? My last question is, you know, with interviewing all these people, does anybody after it's released ever complain how they may be construed or sort of like be upset with how they came out in it even though most of what they did was from their own words certainly i've had projects where that's been the case with this one not really um i think

because um there's nothing all that scandalous i mean i think there might be people that i haven't heard from who might feel, hey, we should have gotten more airtime or this or that, the other thing. But I think, you know, I think because to what Aaron was saying, sort of like, you know, documentaries have become our first drafts of history in the way that maybe magazine articles were in the past or newspaper articles were in the past. And so I think, you know, it's there. And in a certain kind of way, it's a little more honest because a lot of times with print pieces, and I say this as, you know, I used to be a reporter with The Wall Street Journal, like you might interview someone. for 45 minutes and you can just use a couple of bites from them, not necessarily in exactly

the context they would have said them. You can obviously do that in documentaries too, but you need them to have actually said it in the order in which they said it in order for it to be edited correctly. So, you know, that obviously has happened. I mean, you don't want to, you know, surprise people, but if they said what they said. Right. I do got one more question. one more question. When you're kind of, you know, putting the draft or the storyboard together, do you have a story you want to tell and a narrative that you want to depict? And if so, how often does after you get into it, you start deviating, you start interviewing people, how often do you have to deviate from the original narrative you wanted to tell? Because the story

starts telling itself through all of the accumulated interviews. Great question. First all, 100% of the time. A hundred percent we have an idea of what we're doing and 100% of changes. And it might change in order. It might change in points of emphasis. It might change just by virtue of the fact, do you have any footage to support this? It would be great. Like there might be anecdotes. I give an example. I give you the example of the land in, you know, peeing. I mean, I don't know that we would have included it just because it's sort of like, hey, we wanted to focus on the biggest games in the U.S.-Mexico rivalry, but sometimes you just don't have footage to support it, and you can't have animation or photos to make it work. But, you know, on this, there's also sort of, I make a distinction between historical archival-based docs of which this is one versus something you're following in real time or in all-access format like, you know, an all or nothing or a drive to survive or what have you, where you're really dependent on what you're shooting, you know, and what happens, right? You can have a plan and then, okay, this person gets super angry and that becomes a whole story point that you didn't, that you didn't envision.

because it happened in real time. So I would say, yeah, we definitely had a, you know, an outline. And it was, you know, we would keep refining it, refining, refining it, based on, hey, let's lean into what we got that's the best. And let's lean into the stuff that we have the best footage for. And those are kind of the guiding principles. But 100% it changes. I like it.

So would you consider U.S. or Mexico at this point to be little brother in the relationship? If you put into American sports fan terminology, like are we, we're top dog right now, or is Mexico top dog? I don't think we can claim to be top dog, just based on the historical, you know, record. But certainly we're even. And I think I would argue that, you know, going forward, certainly the United States is trending upward just because the game is still very young here. I mean, the league is 25 years old.

Think about it this way. you know in 1973 the NBA was 25 years old you would certainly not say like the NBA in 1973 was the be all and end all of what we think of the NBA and now so you know the team in soccer in the United States also has a very unusual issue which is it's there's major leagues in England in Germany in Spain in France in Holland you know in all these countries to say nothing, Brazil, Argentina, Mexico. There's no other sport where we're able to see top-level competition on American TV. You know, there's no, we're not watching Euro League basketball and saying,

oh, man, if only the NBA could be as good as that. So you talk about 100 years of catch-up here. So, you know, that part, we're still very new, but given the ownership mix in Major League Soccer, these are some of the wealthiest, most savvy sports owners in the world, you know. and you have real youth development. There was a, you know, for a lot of time, even honestly, when we made the quarterfinals in 2002, it was still kind of random how players ended up on the national team.

It was like, oh, they were good here, and maybe a club coach saw them, an Olympic development team. It was totally random, you know, as opposed to having a setup where, okay, when you're 14, you're going to get signed by LAAFC and you're going to play on their junior team, and then you're going to bubble up to the roster,

which is the way the rest of the world works. Yeah. And I would say trending-wise, we're certainly trending to being the superior country in the rivalry. But who knows? I'm just glad we have a rival. I'm glad that we have somebody that we have an actual, legit, bad blood rivalry with.

That feels good to have that on the field. And we'll have to talk some other time about what happened after the U.S.-Mexico game in 2002, because I still think that was one of the biggest hose job. jobs of all time in the quarterfinals against Germany. Oh, against Germany? We don't talk about Worst and Frings' handball. We don't talk about that anymore. VAR would have saved us.

The robots would have saved us on that one. But thank you for joining us, John Weinbach. Go check it out right now on Prime Video Sports. Two episodes are out now. One's coming out on Wednesday, and it's good rivals. Check it out. It's a three-part docu-series about one of the most unique and intense competitions in international sports.

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At his last job? Yeah. And cheating his ass off in recruiting. And I believe, I don't, I don't, there are some other rumors about him also at some previous stops. Seems like, here's my thing. If you want to, if you want to, say whatever you want, I don't care.

If you want to scent for Hugh Freeze, do it. Is simping for Hugh Freeze worth it? like he beat saving twice okay he just finished up a season where liberty went from 8 and 1 to 8 and 4 they got blasted by new mexico in their last game um rip yep they just got murdered um he's like uh all the offensive game in college football he's kind of like what chip kelly was for a while like he had this new city tennessee runs a lot of like hugh freeze ish principles like the game there are more teams doing what he's doing there's a lot of film on it.

If you could get Urban Meyer, throw all morality to the wind. Convince yourself that he is a good person who has just made a couple of mistakes. Hugh Freeze, like, isn't an incredible football coach. He's good. I think he's a pretty good football coach. He's fine. I think he'll do maybe fine at Auburn. Maybe it blows up, but.

I don't think Auburn going to be good until they get rid of Under Armour. I like that take. why's that ex bro look no kid wants to go

wear under armor like that's true it's what it is it's Nike it won't wear Nike when did that

I hate it hate the monopoly Under Armour I think it's always been the case I think Under Armour is going to be

good in like two or three generations where it doesn't matter to these kids because they see Steph Curry right

they see they grew up watching Steph and to them it's like there's that prestige But, like, to a couple generations above them, they're like, no, they just ain't, it ain't it.

Well, Cam Newton also was a big Under Armour guy, because he was at Auburn, too. And I felt like Under Armour was going to start getting cool for a little bit. Yeah, they had Jordan Spee's, some, like, golfers that were cool. And then they, I feel like they fell off again. Like, they re-fell off. Well, everyone rocked those ankle high. When those first came out, they were pretty popular. good yeah they didn't the socks nobody did that the youth level yeah probably y'all did yeah yeah we did

we did not right right but like everyone in pop warner i didn't have them but like they thought they were cool as fuck because they were like ankle wrap and i don't i don't remember anyone past high school wearing them no one wore them in college but that's what i'm saying like they'll they'll corner athletes who are like popular and they'll corner that little niche market but you ain't going to break into the sneaker market and the apparel market until you have like a classic shoe you know what I mean like like what classic underarmored shoe is it where you be like oh you got the on you don't have like there isn't one and I don't foresee there being one their designs just ain't cut out like that and Nike constantly puts out classic shoes and you know even I mean shit

even Reebok had some classic ones, you know what I mean? Remember when it's just when they put out the original, the, the chef curries, the twos, and everyone just like spent three days consistently roasting them online because they looked like a pair of nurse shoes. That was pretty bad. It just, they just not, the designs don't look. I think it's the logo, honestly. The logo just ain't, I don't know.

This is all subjective. I've been pretty sure there's going to be some guys because I got. people on my bumper about the FIFA the FIFA take are you kidding me man that shit rocks the shit was ass I think I don't make those highlights anymore but I'm sure there's somebody out there with some Velcro straps on their shoes that'll be like under arms shoes are amazing what are you talking about I'm like okay cool I think I told you guys about this but under Armour is like super popular with uh like American flag designs they make a shitload of America

theme merchandise. Buddy, buddy, buddy the owner, um, I was with Under Armour for like, I think two, three years.

I signed with them. Um, that dude's like super pro America. He's like super like, he's one of those guys. How does that work when you, when you sign with a new shoe apparel company, do they wine and dine you?

Do they like heavily recruit you? What do you have to do? Do they just send you like a whole bunch of shit? And your day is just like, okay, no matter what I do, I have to be wearing at least one piece of this clothes. It depends on who you are. So, I mean, I was, you know, pretty high prestige, but nowhere near like a, you know,

like in football, it's different because like your marketability is really low because you have a helmet on, right? But there are certain players, quarterbacks. And if you're like a, if you cause a lot of controversy and you're still balling, they'll definitely offer you like money right there's some money being offered like that in football but not not a lot and so but i got i got a i got a good little check i wasn't i wasn't mad at it um but yes they'll do that because like when i i think i was off like coming off of two pro bowls i had just got paid and so i was like okay they was like shoe deals so Nike offered me something

nike didn't offer any money Nike offered um you just get a whole bunch of shit for free. And then you, and then you do ads for them or whatever the case may be. Underarm, I think, it's been a minute. I think it was like 200 grand or something they gave me something like that. I don't remember. It's been a minute. But then they gave me a whole bunch of shit for free. So it's like, but it is though. So like before you're going, they court you. And so like I got flew on, they have an Under Arbor plane. I was on the plane. All that shit. Yeah. To me that seems like a very easy decision. Would you rather have $200,000 or all the Nike merch that you want to wear? Oh, it was easy.

Super-inducing. Super-reducing. But, plus, I got a bunch of the homies who were Nike athletes. They just gave me their code. I got that shit for free anyway. I love it. I love it. Billy, we got to get you sponsored as an athlete.

You can be sponsored by Bass Pro Shop. Hell yeah. Under Armour does have a ton of hunting gear. That's a huge part of their sales. And they also got Tom Brady. and I guess their last sponsored like

shoe name brand shoe was Cam Newton yeah so when was the last Nike football shoe I don't know the land shark they come out with them all the time

they come out with them all the time they come out with a new one every single year but that's the thing though they have a monopoly on the game and they know it they have a monopoly brand wise and they know it and so it's like even if there's a company that comes along does something cool, Nike's going to undercut it because they have the funds.

They do that shit all the time. They did it with Under Armour's name is Under Armour, right? So even this, this is DryFit shit I'm wearing this is Nike. So Nike came out with DryFit after Under Armour seeing all that success of what they were having with the undergear that they were. And so shit. Oh, I watched the great documentary. It's about on Am1 Basketball. Yeah.

And One Basketball revolutionized the streetwear scene in basketball. because basketball was like, you know, really it was just marketed to white folk in suburban America. And then one came and said, we're going to, we're going to highlight the street aspect of it. Like, we ain't going to worry about that pros. We're going to highlight the street aspect of it. Well, all the pros came from the street, right? And so they highlighted and they blew up. I'm talking about a million dollars the first year.

And then they started just, they blew up. And one mixtapes came out. And then all of a sudden, Nike said, who are these? fuckers making all this noise now they got all these street uh NBA street ball ads right and then they start getting gami shit Vince Carter was an one athlete right he he he I mean sir was a Nike athlete but he wore and one shoes in the 2000 dunk contest because that's how popping and one was right and what was popping but he wore those shoes and then the very next I think it was like the very next year he's he's he's in all the Nike streetball ads you know what I mean and so like that's just that's just

it's just capitalism man you got too much too much of a machine machine behind you so like I say all that to say Auburn ain't gonna be good till they go to Nike I like I like to take

what are the other best like Under Armour schools out there what's the best Under Armour School in America UCLA I think is or no they switched to Jordan No they're deeded I thought there's Deities

They were then they went to Under Armour now they're Jordan I think They've switched a few times In the last few years Under Armour I thought oh Notre Dame Notre Dame. Are they still Under Armour? Yeah.

Okay. I thought they were Adidas. They used to be. They were. Yeah, they used to be. Yeah, so it's probably Notre Dame. I think Auburn's the only one in the SEC. Maryland is.

Boston College was, and I think they're new balance now. That's the only new balance. That's awesome. No, it's an atrocity. Who made that call? They're missing out on probably at least 20 students a year that turn them out just because new balance is going to be on their jersey. Okay.

I'm not going to lie. My brother goes to be. He's handing out walking shoes. Get the fuck out of here. I'm not going to lie. My brother goes to BC, so I have some BC gear. The new balance clothes kind of hit. I'm not going to lie.

Stop it. I kind of like them. Yep. Stop it. I kind of like them. No. I have new balances on right now. But,

Bad dog, but new balance, look at me wrong. New balance is make great running shoes. Yes. But you are going to, that's, stop it. It's not, imagine if you're a 17-year-old high school athlete and you're trying to look fresh as hell all the time. Right. And you're trying to look like your fastest shit. You're thinking that nobody can touch you.

Would you like to be decked out head to toe in new balance? No. If it makes any difference, it appears the football team is at least still Adidas. Okay. Everything else I think is. They knew, including those. They was like, uh-uh. Like, New Balance is great.

It's a great brand if you're just trying to hang out. They're, yeah, I guess you're right. Like the clothes I have are like, play sports competitive. Yeah, like from the pro shop. Like, I like that kind of stuff. And I think New Balance is good quality stuff. I'm wearing my new bounces right now. So, yeah, as far as Under Armour schools go, they really did fall off.

I felt like just a few years ago, like mid-2000s, late 2000s, it felt like Under Armour was really going to take the next step, especially what, you know what it was? When Cam Newton won the Heisman trophy as an Under Armour athlete, I felt like that's when Under Armour was about to blow up. Also, Texas Tech, they're Under Armour, right? Yes. I think they are.

I think so. They got to say, they're going to score. They just bottom tier. It's just always going to be that way. Nike has done such a good job of branding over the last four, five decades, that the ground you have to make up is just, I don't see a happen number. So I'm looking at the top 25 right now, Georgia, Nike, Michigan, Jordan, which is Nike, TCU, USC is Nike, Ohio State, Alabama, Tennessee, Penn State, Washington, I believe, is Adidas. So you get to nine, there's your first non-N Nike. an LSU. Utah is

Under Armour, I think. Utah's good. They're really big Under Armour. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So there's one. Kansas State's Nike, Florida State, Oregon. Oregon State. UCLA is Jordan, which is Nike. I don't know. Tulane. And Notre Dame. So Under Armour's a couple schools in the top 25. Nowhere close, though. Yeah, I mean, it's Nike, Nike, Nike, Nike.

I bought Under Armour stock a few years ago. It was actually like 2016. It was right after the Steph Curry shoes came out because I was like, there's no chance that the stock hit that they took just from dropping one pair of shoes is going to last for that long. I think I got in at like $10 a share. It got all the way up to like 18. I was a genius. It was a fucking financial whiz kid. And then I just never sold and dropped back down. I think it's at like $8 a share or something like that now. 939. You're about even. I'm basically even as to what I bought in at. So yeah, classic, classic market manipulation. So we had anything else we want to get into today or what?

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I think that the U.S. are going to get tons of penalties and goals pulled back. It's going to be like Argentina, Saudi Arabia. Okay. I know where the refs are from yet. I don't. I don't think we know. yet, I will say at least two of those goals that Argentina had against Mexico were correct to have been taken away. They were like very, very off-sides goals. Now, I will say, oh, sorry, not Mexico. I meant Argentina versus Saudi Arabia. I don't think it's actually out of the question that MBS, Mohamed bin Salman, the crown prince of Saudi Arabia, actually bribed people to make

Saudi Arabia beat Argentina in the World Cup. If you look at the stuff that he's done in the past, this would be child's play. We should do actually an entire episode on MBS. Should you do that Wednesday? We could. Yeah, he's done some hilarious fuck shit. We should get Felix

on. The guy that came on and talked to us about Havana syndrome. Sure. He's a big MBS guy. MBS at one point, amongst other things that he's done, he's had like a foreign head of state come visit him on like official business and then just locked him in his palace and wouldn't let

him leave for like three months and it's been like you're my hostage now you're staying here and finally the international community was like come on dude let him go and he's like fine i'll let the man go but he's like he's a 37 year old crown prince of sada arabia and he's just he is the exact kind of guy that would uh that would definitely pay a referee like five billion dollars to throw a match. I mean, after watching that FIFA documentary, like, dropping off a briefcase full of cash has always been, like, it's part of, you know, how they run their business. Yeah.

I am seeing that Spaniard Antonio Matteo Lajos will be refereeing the United States and Iran tomorrow. Okay. Where's you from? Spain. I think I've seen this guy in the Champions League. before um so at least it's not you know catari or iranian again well actually honest i think i think the kataris wouldn't let the iranians get away with any of that because i don't think

they're on the same page politically uh no they're they're actually not at all yeah so actually now i think about it there might not be any bribery okay so billy says no bribery now Yeah. Or maybe just a little bit of bribery. Just a little bit of bribery. Like moderate bribery, enough to affect the outcome of the game? Yes. Okay, so who wins?

Hopefully the U.S., but if they don't, it's bribery. Okay. I like it. Yep. Good prediction. So I'm going to say on behalf of Billy, it's going to be two to one U.S. Unless it's one-one tie, in which case they're. was a bribe.

1.0, there was a bribe. 1.0. Iran. There was a bribe. Okay. Got it. But 1-1, no bribes? No bribes, 1-1. Okay. All right. Thank you, Billy. That's a great preview. If we don't advance, do we? We don't. We have to win. We have to win, move on. Yep. Who would win if we went 1-1? Iran and England. Iran would advance ahead of us? They tied? Yeah, because they've won a game. They beat Wales.

They beat Wales? Yeah. oh then if it was a tie it's bribery okay all right so if it's a tie or if they win then it's a bribe and if we win then it was fair i do think we're going to win that's the most american shit i've ever heard from billing that's that's the classic andy bernard he doesn't lose things yeah he wins them he wins them or he quits them because they are unfair i'm trying to recover from this flu just to go watch that game okay i'm going to make it back i don't think it's covid taking several tests so come back strong okay are you still at an undisclosed location billy no i'm in a

disclosed location okay all right so when you say make it back you mean just make it back in the studio like make it back into work when my fever's down okay all right sounds good feel better billy arian you have a good couple days are you down to do mbs on wednesday uh i don't have no idea what it is but i'm sure i can look up some shit mohammed bin salman he's he's uh oh by name he's the ruler of saudi arabia right now yeah oh i didn't know the acronym was popular like that okay he's the guy that allegedly um had that washington post journalist killed and then cut up into tiny pieces in the turkish embassy yeah no i'm hit also yeah i'm down there's a very there's a very funny story about jeff bezos and how jeff bezos his marriage

actually fell apart due to Mohamed bin Salman. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We'll get into that on Thursday. Like personally, Muhammad bin Salman made Jeff Bezos get a divorce. I'm all for that. He's a snitch. Might be a little bit of a snitch.

All right. We'll see you guys on Wednesday. Go USA. Love you guys. We're going to be. Please. We're going to be. I'm