Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - NANODOSE: Praying For Uvalde

Episode Date: May 26, 2022

On today's episode of Nanodosing, we talk about the shooting that took place at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas. Our thoughts and prayers are with the town of Uvalde. Make sure to tune into Macrodosing, every Tuesday at 7am EST.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macrodosing listeners. You can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. I've got a, does everybody else have a piece of pencil lead stuck in their hand? I have it stuck in my guys. I'm going to circle back to that one, my dog. But Avery, do you have one? No, I don't think so.

Isn't there like a typical spot for it? Do you guys have one, Arian Coley? I feel like I used to. I have a piece. of pencil lead stuck in my thumb right now? In your hand. Like just from when you were a kid? Like right now?

Maybe I'm the weirdo. I've got a piece of, yeah. Leder, graphite or whatever that is. It's like a tattoo? It's been in there for 20 years. Longer than that. Yeah. It's like the same as a tattoo.

About 29. That's crazy. Yeah. It's right there. You can see it. Colin Capone. Okay. Well, I was throwing up a pencil in like a second.

I don't know about that, man. Second grade, and I caught it, and the pencil was sticking out of my hand and hanging down, and then I just pulled the pencil out, and the piece of graphite broke off in there, and that's where it is to this day. Same thing with me. And so yours is in your gums? Yeah, it's like a tattoo. If you pull it up, you can see. I was... Do I want to know?

Yeah, it's not, I mean, it's not anything great. I was, like, six, and I was, like, doing homework, and I was, like, basically pretend this is a pencil. I was, like, going like this. No, like, I was just, like, kind of sitting, and then... My head fell, and I went up my gums, and then the lead just, like, tattooed my gums. So now I have a lead tattoo on my gums. Look at the angle Ariens on right now. And he's got a second laptop.

That's just a flex. Well, not, this was my gaming laptop, but it's on and the fan is on and it's a hell loud. Y'all can probably hear it. So I'm shutting it off. Yeah, but I went and got it removed, and it just didn't work. All right. Well, I guess I guess I'm just a freak then. I thought everybody had like an old pencil wound in their hands.

No, I think that's a really common thing. Yeah. Okay. Well, we are waiting for Billy to get back. I don't know if you guys heard it, but he should be coming back in the studio. So he's back from his unnamed excursion, looking forward to discussing with him. Got a lot of positive feedback from the Brian Cox episode. And somebody's doing construction right outside the studio.

So you hear that sound? Do you hear that sound? Yeah. Just right outside. This is the number one. sports podcast studio in America and we don't have soundproof windows if there's a fire truck you'll hear it going by they're just like I think they're hammering nails into the windows right now so it's not we're you're probably going to have to listen to that for the rest of the episode but

it is nanodosing we'll try to make this a shorter nanodosing make it like an hour we kind of have to make an hour or less are your money back that's what I always say um how are you guys doing let's go around the room real quick big tea I'm doing very well. How are you? I'm good. Thank you for asking. Coley.

horribly depressed. Yep. Hate that. Aaron. I'm bad. I'm trying to fix it at their mic or this computer. But I'm feeling amazing. Actually is a really good day.

Today's a good day. Avery has a great thing. I know Avery's feeling good. I'm great. How could I not be happy? I predicted it on Monday. I said that we'll be here and the series will be tied two to two and it is and we're going back to

Carolina. All you have to do is steal one at Carolina and then you'll be good. They're due for a home loss. They are. They can't win on the road. They're due for a home loss. They're 6 and 0 at home. This is it. And we played well there. Avery got on TV last night. Yep. Flexing at the camera. We were saying he's a little camera slut. Avery turns around and like he finds the camera. He gives it those eyes. You know those eyes.

Yeah. Listen, I'll fucking slut for national television any day of the week. Yeah. It's, it's, It's been cool seeing all the Rangers fans around the office, getting really into it. I know it's really tearing memes apart. Coley, I'm, am I reading too much into it if I were to say, like, I know why you're depressed right now? I mean, it's certainly on the news, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yesterday.

So we'll get like. Nothing to be depressed about their, friend. No, he's a giant, giant Gary Payton Jr. fan. And so yesterday it was tough for him. No, we can get a little bit serious for a second here because it is, it's something that I feel like, you know, everyone's thinking about, everyone's talking about. And I realized last night, and this made me actually like more upset and more depressed, I realized after read the news about what happened in Valdi, Texas that I was not, I felt different last night than I did back in 2012 after Sandy Hook. when Sandy Hook happened I was in like a state of shock

for like days it was just it was something that we had never really experienced and it really fucked me up for a while thinking that this could happen like an elementary school where all these innocent kids that had you know absolutely never hurt anybody

it's just the the most disgusting thing ever and yesterday I was obviously like a little bit sad about it I was very sad about it but I didn't have any shock whatsoever right I like was not unexpected. I was I was not in a state of disbelief. It was like, oh, this happened again. And at that point, like that, that kind of frightened me, the fact that I wasn't shocked

by it anymore. And that made me a little bit more upset by it. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. It was and like it it sucks because it's like I feel like I felt like how you felt when Buffalo happened last week several days ago whenever it was there was no shock Thursday or Friday like it's right it sucks that this is happening so frequently that like it's in between shows basically we have to have like two things that we have to separate different events and reactions their brain is right sucks yeah

and I saw it like everything I read just made me more depressed and like typically it's like I saw KFC talking about this earlier like we we

the big cry has been like oh separate sports from politics like I don't I don't see how this is politics I really don't like I find it hard to be like this is a political this is a political this is not as a human issue like i don't know it's uh the sandy hook thing i saw a lot of people

say like there's that tweet it's one of the more viral tweets uh like when when that happened and they did nothing about guns that's when it was over uh like we made our decision as a contrary and it's like i've seen people saying like sandy hook was in vain and this and that like i wish it was in vain it what happened was way worse than being in vain uh alex was our first episode one of our first episodes yeah like i've been dwelling on it for 12 16 hours now like that what he did and what like it was such a smaller movement then and now that's just become the news like that's the he was like this crazy fringe guy and now we have almost exclusively crazy fringe guys delivering news to millions of people every day in congress

in Kong everywhere like that's these are the talking these are the debates that are had like as if there's like why do i have to pick it there is an obvious side to pick here the fact that anyone's presenting other sides is insane to me um i've column by like the world used to just stop and obviously just america but our world used to stop when when sandy hook happened like we didn't blog for like a day or two like the website shut down because of It was like, we have to sit and think with this. Now it's so quick, like, let's just move on. Red Sox won like 16-3 last night.

Like, I didn't enjoy a second of that game. Jason Tatum, first team all-N-B-A, did not care. Like, it's going to sit with me for a while. And it's not to say that the Buffalo tragedy was less of a tragedy. Because obviously that sucked too. There was an arm guard there. People just dying, grocery shopping. There's something different.

kids, though. There's an innocence with kids that was stolen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's bad. I'm a, and this sucks to say, man, but this is the truth of where I'm at. It's just, I'm desensitized.

And it's not a, it's not a fun place to be. But I think it's a healthy place to be. And I think everybody else is, too. I don't think it's fun to admit it, right? It sounds kind of like an assholes to admit it. But the fact, the matter is unless it hits closer to home, like it's almost expected. Like, crazy shit's going to happen.

And I think as the Internet continues to grow and as we continue to grow as a society, I think that's only going to be more of the case because bad shit happens all the time. And I'm not saying, don't feel how you feel. That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying just for me personally, if you take a personal, you know, stance or a stake, you have a personal stake in every sad news story that happens globally, like, you're going to be depressed.

For sure. You're going to be depressed. And I'm not saying you wrong for it, bro. That's not what I'm saying at all. No, I don't think you are. That's not how I don't think. I just don't want it to take the wrong way because I think, you know, like the Buffalo hit

a certain community in a different way. This will hit people in a different community a certain way. And like, and it's okay to feel how you feel about any situation that comes about. I just think, but personally, you have to find like peace about shit like this that happens in the world because like there's there's no in America the this is like you trying to hurt cats trying to try to this gun debate is hurting cats this is not going to happen um you have a certain set of people who believe that

guns are intrinsic that God gave you light water and guns like that's just it like and there's nothing you could do about that like and that's an entire half of the country there's just I don't see any remedy for it. And so now it's like, it's like I hate to say it. I expect the shit. I expect shit like this to happen. And when it happened, you know, the crazier part,

I was reading this FBI report. And they were saying, how do you stop mass shootings? And they were like, there's really no, because everybody is, there's more guns in America than our people. It's fucking wild to think about. But there's so many guns out there. there's so much access and easily access to guns that it's an inevitable probability

that shit like this is going to happen. He said the only way to minimize it is to stop reporting on it. That's what he was saying. Yeah, I mean, that's what we're doing with fucking a pandemic. Like, the dude was saying, he's like the best way to stop it because if it's not in a new cycle constantly,

then it doesn't incentivize other people. That's like, that's like one slice of a pie of how to manage it. But I guess my counter to that to be like society was shut down for a year and it wasn't reported on because it wasn't happening. And then the second people got back outside and started happening again. Oh, we just need another pandemic? I don't know. Like, I think the thing I've been struggling with the most is how like helpless I feel. Like there's there appears to be a solution, right? Other countries have

happened upon a solution. We ignore said solution. Uh, In fact, it's like you're un-American if you even bring it up. And so it's like, all right, like, I just have to sit by and watch. Like, I'm bringing a kid into the world in two weeks. Like, I feel selfish about that. Like, I shouldn't feel that way. I shouldn't feel guilty about bringing another young life into this world. I should feel ecstatic.

I should be thrilled. Well, I don't know. To Billy's point, like when he was stroking, you know, You know how much, you just tweeted the other day, something about how, like, people are having less and less kids. And this is part of the problem. They're, like, scared to bring kids into the world. One, two, it's hell of expensive.

And, like, it's expensive. So those kind of things. Like, people are, like, feel good. I mean, and I do, too. I got four kids, dog. And it's like, it hits home because my sister's a teacher. And my shorthy right now, she's a teacher. And so they, she got ready to, I'm in Portland, Oregon.

She got ready to go to work today. And I'm texting her throughout the day. She's like, it just feels. really drag like it's just like everybody's on edge you know what man that's crazy like at a fucking school where you're teaching elementary kids like you're scared of getting shot that is what's a wild this is a wild state of affairs man but i've kind of reached the point where i i feel like nothing's going to change i even though there are certain measures that you can take that are supported by I think last I checked, 90%, 90.

So there will be some people out there that are like, oh, you fucking libs. Guess what? 90% of America, 90% of America doesn't agree on shit. Right. But we all agree that like there are some things that you can do. Like I've just reached a point where it's like try to try to compromise and try to take some baby steps. Like they're not, nothing drastic's going to happen.

I was telling Big T this earlier, but I kind of don't think that gun owners, are the probably people that have owned guns for a while, like they're probably pretty safe with their guns. It's the people that have something bad happened to them and they have like a psychotic break. The ability for them to go out and get a gun at a moment's notice and not just a gun, but a gun that can carry, you know, like like 30 round clips. Like we don't, you don't need a 30 round clip. If you ask law enforcement, they'll tell you we can't deal with people that have extend magazines because we're going to be outgunned and it's not a situation where we can take them down on our own easily before they inflict a lot of damage like that that to me is the problem

is that it's a psycho out there can go out and get a gun at a moment's notice with very yes there are some background checks that are woefully inadequate um they do stop some people but they're obviously not doing their job but there are things that you can do to like try to mitigate some of these things like limit the types of guns that you can get without a more extensive background check limit the capacity of the magazines that that the public can go out there and buy limit the amount of ammunition that that you can buy at a given time like i i feel like these are the word you're like the the whole common sense gunner from that's almost become just like something that people say like common sense and it doesn't really mean anything unless you

explicitly say like what you want to do to limit things those to me are like things that we can tackle that we should be able to tackle and compromise on and at least start to take some baby steps because you're not going to pass anything drastic in this country it's just not going to happen the gun lobbies are too powerful so let's do some what baby steps out here my I think the biggest change that could happen that's indirectly impactful is like I I do not understand why and I know I've said this before why lobbying is legal I have no idea why it's legal yeah what companies can can influence congress people because the because the lobbyists ensure that it is yes of course

but it's more like the lobby lobby outside of the greed from politicians like if if and i'm like i'm i don't care like both sides are making money off this shit so like this isn't like only certain people only certain people appear to be taking gun money but this is just a lobbyist issue in general like even when you're talking about like other people like I do feel like most gun owners are probably responsible right I feel like I can make a very similar argument for drug users most drug users pretty responsible when they're not getting killed by fentanyl that they had nothing to do with that's super illegal but that's someone's hobby so where do we draw this line with hobbies right people saying that that you can't legislate against evil you can't like make evil against the law we do all the time in this time. The murder. The Attorney General in Texas was just like, yeah, laws don't work. We know that.

Like, what is, that is your job. Murder is illegal, right? Like, you can make that same argument just about murder. Like, oh, well, you know, it's pointless to have a law against it because people are going to do it anyways. No, it deters some people. Definitely. It makes it, it makes it more difficult to do.

Like, it limits the number of murders. So, like, legislating something to do with. with gun control should not be like we shouldn't just throw our hands up and be like well bad guys are going to be able to do it anyways yeah i'm sure they will i'm sure bad guys will be able to find guns if they have to if they're determined enough you're probably never going to stop that in a country that like you said has more guns than there are people that two pieces out of the tube out there there's enough guns floating around that people will be able to get their hands on guns but we can also make certain things illegal that make it harder for people that tried to get a gun

and inflict as much damage as possible on a large number of people, we can do things that limits their ability to do so. I think, I think, I think we have a, it's a gun culture problem here. Like, addiction. Yeah, we have a problem. And like, when you tell people that, they're like, it's just their hobby. Like, your hobby is to shoot shit. And that's wild. Like, you're how much is to shoot shit. Like, that's, I mean, I understand that we all have our, our likes and dislikes. And I don't understand.

understand it. Like, there's nothing I can relate to. I'm not, we got plenty of likes that are illegal. Yeah. I don't say, I'm just saying, like, I just don't think, like, you can't reel this back in because you've made it legal's thus far and you've okayed it in the minds. So it's like, it's synonymous with freedom. So it's like, my freedom means I get to shoot shit, right? Legally, right? And, and once that, like, is in the ethos at all, it can never be taken back. And you got to be careful what you introduce your mind to.

We've introduced freedom in America as being able to have a gun in the sense of like, you know, and they'll justify however they want to, like protecting themselves from tyranny or whatever the stupid shit is. Like, that's fine.

But like, you have to admit when you look around the country and you look at the global data, there's an issue here. There's an absolute issue here. Yeah. And if you, whether you want to admit that shit or not,

it's you got you got to face you got to face the mirror and like the only way to to stop this shit is I don't even I'm going to pretend to have the answer but you got at least admit there's an issue though like a lot of these like they just want to admit there's an issue like it is what it is you was going to be here some people are saying that there is an issue um actually like everybody admits that there's an issue even you know people that are against gun control they know that there is a problem in America with mass shootings and the ability to kill a lot of Some people say, like, oh, it's a mental health issue. I agree.

I agree it's a mental health issue. So let's do something about it. If it's a mental health issue, then- Texas just declined. It was something that was going to give 1.4 million people free access to health care and they voted against it. So it's like, all right, well, if it's a mental health issue,

like you said, why didn't you pass that? Yeah. Freak yourself up by your bootstraps and get over your depression and your bipolar and schizophrenia and you get over that shit. Free counseling, free mental health care could help some of this. It's probably not the complete and total solution. But again, baby steps probably would limit some of the instances where this does happen.

I was talking about my shorty, because she was like, she's going to go in there. She's like, I'm going to talk to my class about it today. And I'm like, I was like, man, it's, it's, it's, I don't know if you should do that without consulting your faculty. Yeah. She's like, why? And I was like, I mean, she got an email last year because she was talking about voting. She was, and she didn't say who to vote for.

She didn't say who won. She didn't say anything. She was talking about how voting works to her second graders. And she got an email from her, from some parent who was like, I don't want my kids learning about that. And you're politicizing. I was like, what the fuck is crazy, right? So, like, you got to be careful what you bring up to kids. And this is a wild one to bring up.

But she's just talking about bringing. it up and and the hesitancy around it is it was was alarming to me it's like you can't even you got to walk on eggshells about potentially introducing like drills for shit like this because like although it's a very in the in the you know mass around of data or whatever like it's a it's a rare occurrence at a school and it's unlikely to happen at a school at your school but it's still something that it's so's a fire but we have fire drills right so it's like it's something that they have to take into account. And obviously, there's an emotional factor that's involved into it that actually affects them. It's like, hold on. I'm a teacher. Like, the shit might happen. But it's like

the hesitancy around it. I'm not even a teacher. I'm like, yo, you got to be careful. You know what I mean? You don't want to get reprimanded for that type of. And she was like, fuck that shit. I'm talking to. I'm like, I'm with you. It's just wild. Like, I still can't get on a plane without taking my shoes off. They fixed that shit of day one. Because one guy didn't even succeed. He failed. And we had a fix for that real quick.

We just don't even try here. And it's infuriating. Billy just walked in. So guys. I loki think that there's a total economic benefit in like there was profit seeking with a lot of the airport security. They didn't want you to be able to bring in any food. So you had to spend money before your flight.

and that was like the basis of a lot of that TSA stuff looking back on it I probably had something to do with it but I don't know we definitely don't have all the answers because you know we're just guys and girls sitting around talking about

but I feel like there are there are things that you can do right now to at least limit some of the carnage that somebody is able to inflict on other people I can't you can't be like I'm going to take all the guns because it's not going to happen there are too many people people that rely on guns for, you know, hunting, that's a legitimate thing, a big part of this

country. They hunt. They kill their own meat in a way that's, like, more sustainable and probably healthy than using the factory farming system. That's not something that we're going to limit anytime soon, nor should we really. There's self-defense, which I think is a legitimate thing to talk about when there are so many guns out there. Yeah, self-defense against other guns. Like, that's where it loses me. Yeah, I guess it is. It's against other. guns. But the reality is, like, there are people that have a lot of guns out there. And so if you want to protect your family, like, I understand why people would be reluctant to give up their weapons for self-defense. But if you want to go out and get a gun, there should be, there should

absolutely be limits on what a new gun owner can purchase. And I think that's a big part of conversation that is like just a red herring to me. It's like, and they'll use it. They'll say, you want to take my guns. It's like, nobody, I don't think nobody rational. that understands the country that they live in is saying let's take your guns I don't think anybody's saying that I think we're just like pushing for stringent background checks shit like that like interviews stuff like that there absolutely are people saying take your guns some some nobody saying that nobody nobody's honestly saying no I've been here on that since 07 nobody that was that was all that was what Obama so then so I beta first of all I I don't think you're going to find people

more in favor of very stringent background checks than gun owners. I think you should have to undergo a stringent mental health evaluation, a criminal. Like, if I, if you want to say, like, if you've ever been arrested for anything, you shouldn't be allowed to own a gun, I'd be down with that. Like, well, that's a, that's a problem with what happened yesterday. Like, that kid wasn't arrested. Right. But I, I believe there was, like, mental. For sure. Really quick disturbance. I have no idea. What happened? there was a school shooting in Texas

Oh fuck It's 19 people dead now Two people injured No no 21 I thought it was 19 kids I don't know Yeah could be it

I could be it Oldman for school Keep going big T Well but yeah I was just saying like Like in terms of like PFT said 90% of Americans You can't get 90% of Americans To agree that the sky's blue

If you walked outside Right So like if Coley when you said like I think you said the solution is very obvious, but like didn't expound on that. Like, what is that? Yeah. I mean, I, I have no problem saying take everyone's guns.

I've had no problem saying that. And I understand I say that from a point of view where I'm a 6.5 white guy. And I'm, I have nothing to fear in this country. I truly have nothing to fear other than guns. But like D. Well, hold on. Let me continue. Okay.

In my entire life, I've never understood guns. Really weaponry in general. but gun specifically. And I understand it comes from a point of where I truly have enough. I can ride the subway by myself at 3 a.m. No one's going to mess with me. Like I understand that comes from, like if I were a five foot one, a black woman,

would I have a different view, probably? But from where I sit and I see the rest of the country and I see all the rest of the world, and I see all the statistics. And I see what happened. the UK when they made very straight gun laws and people are like, well, there will be more stabbings. The US is a higher stabbings rate than the UK still to this day. When I look at Japan and I know your points about like homogenous countries that are smaller than us, but when I look

at what Japan requires of people to get a gun, I have no idea why we cannot apply that in this country. I truly don't. I don't understand other than the lobbyists and the money. And I get that we're a greedy society and capitalistic society. But when I see what it takes, pretty much everything you were just saying, the mental health evaluations, the constant check-ins. Like, when we talk about freedom in this country, we never bring up responsibility. You have to be responsible to earn that freedom. I'm not saying take away people's freedom.

That would be insane. That's slavery. but if we're going to have this freedom like that's not just like balls to the wall hundred miles per hour every second of every fucking day I get everything I want and that's that's my God-given right no it's not if you're not going to be responsible that's why we have jail if you're not responsible with your freedom you don't get to participate in society I think what freedom in general has been so like mismarketed yes like you don't have freedom people think that they have freedom like you have the illusion of

freedom. Like, if you think you have freedom, stop going to work. Watch how fast you start. That's not freedom. You don't have freedom. You said there are responsibilities that you have to abide by. And there are obligatory, social norms that you have to abide by that you don't want to do. I don't want to stop it every stop. I have, stop at every traffic light. I have the freedom to do so, but you can cause chaos. Like, I know that is a microcosmic analogy, but it's, but it's the truth. And like, that's why I said this is not, you hurting cats with this shit. And when I say people, nobody rational is trying to take your guns, nobody rational that's, that's legislating. It's not going to, it's not going to happen.

You're not going to legislate away guns in America because it is synonymous with freedom. Like, that side of the aisle feels like God gave you the right to have a gun. And there's no, and once you arguing with that shit, once you argue, when you boxing with that dude in the guy there you're going to lose that fight same times that you keep saying shit like that like if we're all in agreement of like background checks very stringent things like that I don't we're not all that we're not all in agreement on that what do you mean I'm talking about us here oh okay six of us macro dosia yes like I think there are there is a high number of Republicans and gun owners who would agree with that now then why isn't it why isn't it legislated those people aren't making

walls. Oh, that's what I was talking about. I said, legislative. That's what I was talking. Yeah. Did you see the video from Herschel walkers last night? No, God, no. Uh-uh. They, what he said? They booed when Biden called for, I mean, Biden had a terrible speech. I'm not here to give him props for a terrible speech, but they booed when he talked about gun restriction. So, like, I can't even agree with the 90%. Like, I saw a lot of gun owners today who were calling for better background checks and stuff like that. But I can't sit here and be like, yes, all of the other side thinks that way. I know they don't. But restriction, what does that mean? Like, to restrict. We have to get into it. I mean, I just told you, I want what Japan

has. Do you that doesn't seem crazy? But you also said before that like take all the guns. Like, do you think that's my personal thing? I understand that's never going. Do you think that's like feasible? No. No, no. Like, I'm calling in a sense, like, I don't, I would love it if there was zero guns. But I'm a rational agent in America knowing that there will always be guns. So there has to be some kind of hindrance in order to get up. Like, there should be some kind of hindrance in order to get it. Okay, here's what Japan does. You have to join a hunting or shooting club. Take a firearm class, pass a written exam, which is held up to three times a year. Get a doctor's notes saying you're mentally fit and do not have a history of drug abuse. Apply for a permit to take firing training, which may take up to a month, describe in a police interview why you need a gun, pass a review of your criminal history, gun possession record, employment, involvement with organized crime groups, personal debt, and relationships with friends, family, and neighbors, apply for a gunpowder permit, take a one-day training class and pass a firing test,

obtain a certificate from a gun dealer describing the gun you want, buy a gun safe and an ammunition locker that meet safety regulations, allow police to inspect your gun storage, pass an additional background review and then you can get your gun so um there's a lot of they limit the types of guns you can purchase there's a lot of things in that which will never happen in america i'll just say like right now you're wasting your breath if if you think that all that stuff is going to happen in america but there are certain i never said i think it's going to happen that's what i want yeah think that like there people don't really die from guns in japan they just don't and meanwhile it's the

leading as of i think it was as of yesterday we crossed the threshold where children became gun death became the leading cause of death in children in America. It's not cars, it's not accidents, it's guns. Yeah, I think at the very least, like a psycho should not be able to go to a store and buy a gun spur of the moment. Yeah, I mean, this kid on his 18th birthday went and bought one, same day. Yeah. What are we doing? I mean, stepping away from the gun laws,

I think we definitely have to start infiltrating these discord chats these eight chans that have all these dudes getting radicalized because this kid wasn't radical he was just a good old-fashioned bullied well i don't i don't know if we know everything about the guy that's fair i haven't really done that much digging into it but like 12 hours 24 hours afterwards we probably don't have like a full picture of what happened but billy's right like the anonymous message boards are it's become a game to them and it's sick but like they talk about about getting the high score in public shootings. Like, did you see their response to this?

I know that they're, they were flooding the internet with misinformation that quickly got picked up and like screen grabs posted online and being like, oh, this is a trans kid. And it was a completely different person. And they're just, they're making stuff up because like the, the psychos and like Billy's biggest enemies, the in cells out there, they, they've reached a point where they're just nihilists now. And so they treat everything like it's a game. This is what I'm saying, bro, not everybody deserves it.

Like, freedom is like this God-given right. Like, bro, you don't even know what freedom is. Like, and I say that as somebody who is financially free, and I wake up and I do whatever I want to do. It's the scariest shit in the world. Like, it's scary, dog. And, and it's, if you really give people freedom, and this is what you're talking about like,

with Elon Musk banging for Twitter and that free open ideas, like this shit, this is the kind of shit that can happen. if you don't regulate people. Regulation is a public safety issue. Like, to give people free reign to do whatever they want, bro, not everybody is playing with it the same day of the car does you. Not everybody wake up and just go to work and have a good day and come home. Bro, people are crazy out there.

If you have true freedom of speech, then you can get on an anonymous message board and you can say, like, you know, life is meaningless. We're being replaced. the other shooters that we've seen those guys are legends if I were to do it here's how I would do it and then other people being like yeah you should do it

you should do it get the high score go out there and then you're able to just go into a store buy a gun and go out there and enact your plans like that is it is ultimate freedom of speech that people are using and it's it's really fucking backfiring on us so you know again I don't know I don't have all the solutions

I know there are certain things that are never going to happen in this country, no matter how badly most of us want them to happen. But I think it's like it's high time that if you don't, I'm done with hearing people saying that won't work without having a solution of their own. Right. Have a solution. Like I'm open. I'm all ears.

Like we're talking about mental health earlier. I'm all ears to that. Yes, it is a mental health problem. Kids are being prescribed medication at a rate that we have not ever seen in this country where we don't know some of the long term and short term. effects yet we're still studying some of these medications study them yes but also let's make it harder for those people if they do have a psychotic break to go out there and buy a fucking 30 round magazine which like again we're talking about baby steps here but it it decreases the amount of people that

you can shoot you have it takes time to reload that's time that law enforcement could be circling you and closing in on you and yeah you might save you know four Five lives, six lives. Maybe that turns up to like seven or eight lives. Who knows? But it's like it's high time for some baby steps at this point. Because we're not doing the big ones. We're not doing the big leaps.

It's just not going to happen. But this is a big part of the reason why I'm just pessimist because it's not like I, you know, I mean, I do have a general love for people, but I just don't believe in them. I don't believe in people. I don't believe, I believe their self-interest will always trump the greater good.

And this is why I just expect this. I just expect shit like this, and I spend my time trying to take care of my little world, making sure my little world is the best it can be, and making sure that I raise my kids to be nice, kind, responsible patrons. I also think the online discourse around it has gotten so, so, like, poisonous, where it's like a product of the world that we live in, where the wildest takes are the ones that are getting amplified the most. And so what's getting lost and all that is normal people for the most.

part can agree on a lot of this stuff. And you have to kind of tune out some of the crazier people online that are that are screaming and making this seem like, you know, and I don't want to both sides because I don't think it's both. I think it's more about like people that are just kind of like poisoned from like internet discourse and internet irony. I think by and large, if you look around, everybody knows that something has to change. And I'm just, I've reached a point where I'm sick of people that have no alternate solution being like, nope, that's not going to work. Sorry. Like if your, if your answer is legitimately, we need more guns and we need more, we need to make it easier to get guns. Arm the teachers. Yeah. So if you know teachers for the most part, like how many

elementary school teachers do you know? I know a lot of elementary school teachers actually. And none of them want to be carrying a gun in the classroom or have a gun in the classroom. Zero, zero as a matter of fact. They were just grooming our children to be transsexual a week ago. They've got enough on their place.

Excuse me. A week ago, that's what the teachers. Now we've got to arm them. Yeah, I mean, teachers don't want to be doing that shit. No, I legit, I legit ask my shirt. I was like, would you, like, if it was legal, would you want to carry a gun in the class?

She said, no, bro, I don't want a fucking gun. Listen, the people that were arms could have stopped this kid from running into the school. They didn't. Like, that's a thing that happened in the real world. Guns did not stop this. I seen this clip where there was this dude. He was on Fox News. I don't know if they take him seriously, but he was like, you need, you need, he's like, this is the problem.

You need armed security guards, every school. You need trips and locks so that when he hits a trip, it locks him in. in that room. And it's jail. She's talking about the fucking, you're talking about it. Describing jail, actually. I remember the NRA's suggestion last time after Sandy Hook was we're going to start

a worldwide, our nationwide coalition of volunteer armed service people or armed guards that will be stationed at the school. So you're just essentially saying like, okay, some guy in the neighborhood raises their hand. They're like, I'm good with guns. Can I come hang out in the school for a while? I don't think we're understanding, like, the unintended consequences that go along with that when you just have somebody that doesn't really answer to anybody that's just like, yeah, I'm willing to volunteer my time. I'm guarding William, William Taft, elementary. He wakes up in the morning and puts a face paint on, bro.

You don't want that shit. Yeah, it's not going to be a good solution. But I, so when I was talking to Big T earlier, I think, I think, like, as somebody who's, you know, in favor of Gun Right's Big T also knows that. Like, there's the people that out there that are armed gun owners or responsible gun owners, they know that this is a problem too. Like if you own a gun and you're responsible with it, you understand what those weapons can do to people. And you don't want psychos to go out there and to be able to get a gun easily either. I think that's, again, it's like 10% of the people that are loudest online that are like,

no, there should be no restrictions whatsoever because that's what God told us in the second. amendment. And by the way, an amendment is just, people are like, well, you can't change amendments. That's what an amendment is. An amendment is a change to the Constitution. Now, we're never going to be able to get rid of guns in America, I don't think, but we can certainly, there's nothing in the second amendment that says, like, everybody in America should be able to own whatever weapon they want and get it as easily as they want. They're talking about like cannons and shit when they wrote that. They were like literal. Yeah, if everyone had a cannon and they had to, like, load it up, I'm okay with that. I'm okay with canons.

I think, I think as adults in this country, like, we need to take a hard look at our political arena. And what I mean by that is I've seen this shorty, and it's not, it was not just her. I think I seen it short as she was campaigns on a campaign trail and on her bus. It said, God, uh, babies and guns. Like it's and that is definitely hyperbolic but it's not it's it's not so far the realm of of what we see in our political arena that it's like it's not abnormal like our politicians are campaigning like boxing events and boxers like where you say the most hyperbolic shit to draw a crowd and draw a size of a crowd like it's the reason why fandom around politicians is the most dangerous shit that they're. is because all of these things all we're doing is legislating thoughts was as hard as it is it's very hard to legislate thoughts but behind it you have this this hyperbolic messaging that becomes it just becomes idiocy in the in the in the idea of like we actually have to talk about these

ideas in a very serious way but it doesn't become that it becomes talking points we we actually have to hold our politicians accountable man like like stop like fanboying and fan girl over these fucking politicians. They're just people that majority are not that smart. A lot of these motherfuckers are not that smart, though. And we need to hold them accountable for how they interact with the public because it's diluting. It's polluting our mental pool in America.

It is gross. It's just when you look at like the bumper stickers, now I don't fuck what side of the aisle you want. All that shit is dumb. It's fucking best. It's just fucking. I mean, yeah, we can make that argument too. Bumper stickers are pretty fucking stupid.

I got, I can go spend 40, 50 racks on a car, put a sticker on it, though. I also think there's like, if you see a car that has like 10 bumper stickers on it, the person that's driving that car is usually pretty lame. Like, you know, you have to put all of your thoughts on the back of your car because you're not able to express what your point of view is without having like snarky stickers all over the back.

Would Billy say like bumper stickers are the original tweets? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, can we, like, light in the mood? This is a lot. Yeah, it is. It is a lot.

That's part of the problem. It's a lot. It's been a lot for a long time. Billy, man. Sometimes, bro, we're going to talk about politics, and that may piss off our constituents. It may piss off the people. Not everybody going to agree with us, dog.

That's okay. This is a podcast where we just get on and we talk about things that are pressing us, that are pressing the country. Like, you can't worry about it. analytics you can't worry about people that's where I feel I could be wrong really but I feel like a lot of the times you try to um ease the waters of the conversation because because people don't like what we talk about it's not comfortable yeah it's to hell uncomfortable but yeah it's it's a part to me it's a part of like a good um diverse I feel like we have a really good show man like sometimes

not everybody's going to agree with everything anybody said or like it's it is what it no I know I'm just I'm being stupid I just got off like a four hour car you're not being stupid but that's how most people feel. And that's part of why nothing's changed. People are uncomfortable with this. So it just keeps getting, the can keeps getting kicked down the road. And it's not on you.

That's how most people feel. But it's, I don't know. This one, this one really piss me the fuck off. Like, bad. This shit can't have.

I'm tired. I'm genuinely very tired of learning about towns. I should have never heard of my entire. I don't, like these times. I'm tired of learning about these places because something unfathomably horrific happens. It's like, I don't want to hear about these places, no more, no more. I think that's something we could actually agree on.

That could be bipartisan is what PFT brought up earlier. It's like if it's a mental health issue, right? And if you're a Republican and if you're a Democrat and if you're libertarian or whatever, if you believe that mental health is a big issue, like, You have to acknowledge that mental health is expensive. Therapy is expensive. And so people need help getting help. And there should be bipartisan support about clinics, about mental health clinics across

this country. Like that should be, I feel like that is a huge, like 50 said, baby step towards. Actually, I don't even know if it's a solution to dumb violence, but a solution that like a lot, a big point real quick, and I'm going to get off my hour, a big point, my, my, my, my girl brought up when we was talking was that when we were growing up talking about your emotions

and stuff like that was kind of not a thing and she was like in our classrooms and in my classroom I talk about how those kids feel how are you feeling how does that make you feel talk to me how makes you feel

like I know you're upset tell me why you're upset like that kind of shit is doing a really big part and changing the way kids are brought up and how they express themselves and being heard and felt And that's the kind of shit to me.

And that's why I always call it a little hero because, like, that's the kind of shit that actually matters. And as adults, like, we're, we, I think our generation was like, we're the ones that said, yo, this ain't right. Like, I feel something. And I'm going to express that shit. And we need to facilitate that throughout the country to have actually real legislation to help people get access to the shit because therapy helps, man. Like, I've been depressed.

I've been borderline suicidal before. I know it's crazy to admit, but therapy helps. Having people around that relate to you, that can understand you, that don't judge you. It shit helps, bro. Dude, I don't fuck what, how much money you have, how much money you don't have. Everybody needs somebody, man. So I feel like that's a bipartisan thing. The other conversations could be uncomfortable to have, if we do delve into mental health

and how that can limit somebody's ability to. to purchase a weapon is, you know, like if you go back and you look at Virginia Tech, there are things in Chosung-Wi's past that you would look at and be like, this person should not have been able to purchase firearms. We, you know, a lot of people are saying that mental health is a bigger conversation. Well, okay, if we get into that and we're able to diagnose people, everybody out there knows somebody that you could spot as like a ticking time bomb when they were a kid or like, going up through high school or whatever or even in the workplace like there are people that we

know that have been like okay there's something off about this individual and it's you know more a lot of times when you hear about a shooter after the fact it's like everybody was like yeah there's something there was always something that was messed up about this person um the uncomfortable conversation is going to be if we do get people into mental health uh into therapy into interventions then the conversation that comes after that is, well, we do need to restrict their freedom and their ability to purchase a firearm. And so then, because therapy is not going to help everybody necessarily, there are still people that are actively involved in therapy that should not be owning weapons.

And so then we need to figure out, okay, well, you know what, like it or not, it is going to be the responsibility of the state to limit certain people from purchasing weapons. And so that's the conversation that I don't know if the people that are advocating, for mental health are ready to have that part of the conversation just yet but that's a pretty big component to it yeah um all right billy lighten the mood we've just we discussed it for a long time about 50 minutes uh just i felt like we needed to to get that off our chest a little bit and talk about it i mean i i had no idea um well you guys are looking handsome thank you Mad dog.

Mad dog, you're looking handsome. Mad dog, you're looking, uh, glory. What was the fuck? Glorious. Glorious. Glorius. Here comes a trip to H.O. Oh, Arias.

Actually, here, this is light in the mood because I guarantee you, Billy has a piece of graph lighter lead stuck in his body somewhere. Oh, yeah, dude. I have all my hands. Yeah, I see. Yeah, dude. And I also have, I also have one in the hip. Dude, I, I, I used to get.

I thought you lose skin cells. Like, this is why I'm skeptical about your claim. I thought skin cells like always regenerate. But it's like a tattoo. It's like embedded underneath my skin. It's subcutaneous. So Billy, how many would you tattoo? How many do you have?

Well, I have to say like I got into rock fights when I was little. Like we would straight up to stab each other with pencils. I'm sorry. I mean, kind of too soon about school stuff. You said stab people with pencils? We would stab me like we just like do crazy. Like, I don't know. We were kids and idiots.

I'm the only one that has graphite stuck underneath my skin in this in this room. Oh, you. Well, Mad Dog has it in her gums. I, but like, I don't know if I can still see it, but I actually think this is one. Camera. But it was wild. You know, take a picture of it and send it to the group. Okay.

Well, I'll forward it over to you guys. I need a new nickname for you. There's too many syllables. I can't. It's three syllables for a nickname. It's don't. That ain't it. Call him Pee-P.

That's what you discussed. I'm definitely not going to do that. I think I'm going to call Pedy. Pity. Yeah, Pity's all right. I like P-E-E-X. Yo, who am I, Pity Pub? All right, sending it over.

Throw back right there. That's a great song. Yeah, we got a rap soon, right? Yeah, we got a rap in about five to ten minutes. So do we have voicemails? I don't know any voicemails today. We played those all on Monday after you left. Okay. Billy, what do you think about Kyle Long being your biggest fan?

I'm hype. I've been off the internet, but I was supposed to go hog hunting with Kyle. I think we tweeted about that a long time ago. Okay. Billy, how are you feeling to be back in society? It's weird. I mean, I came back. I mean, I have like, I have like dirt all over me, dust. It's pretty. That's not a huge change from a norm.

He's like Linus from Charlie Brown. But this is outside dirt. Is that the one that? No, it's pig pen. My bad. Linus at the blanket. Yeah. Dude,

he was dragging that thing on the ground constantly. There's no chance that was sanitary. Good point. Billy, I want to tag you. We were talking about that earlier. Like a, you know how they studied wildlife migration?

Yeah. Like they'll tag like a deer. I want to tag you just to know where you go. I covered an insane amount of grounds in the woods. Yo, what part of the hand is it in? I can't see it. Oh, that's like my thumb. Actually, that probably looks like.

It's that's like the palm Like the soft part under your thumb Oh it's a little spot Yeah that little spot right there That's graphite It's graphite yeah From the tip of the axle I'm guessing it's not poisonous

Tell you what everybody out there that's that's listening to this Reply to the tweet that we put out announcing nanodosing Reply to it with a picture of your graphite injury that you have Underneath your skin or lead injury that you have From elementary school And if you don't childhood scars I have like six on my forehead

How many times did you fall down as a child? Well, it was more of like running around Yeah, it was a lot Did you run into a lot of things? Yeah Corners of doors All right, everyone go around the room

You got soft hands, don't you build it? No, dude, I got fuck Do you want to see my calluses, bro? I just look from this picture I don't remember dapping you up If they were soft or not But from the picture Wait, that's PFT's hand though

I got a meaty paw No, the second one The second one, the second one. BFT looks like he has rougher hands. Billy looks like he's got soft hands. What are you talking about? Look at these fucking. No, Billy,

those look like soft hands. Shut up. I'm resending. You know who got like the soft. You know who got the softest hands I've ever, I've ever shook before? Who? Drake.

Drake. Oh, I bet. Bro, I shook his hand. I was like, bro, have you ever grabbed anything? I got in the second. I was like wildly confused.

There's another dude in this office with wildly soft hands. And it literally. like I sometimes think it's a woman grabbing me like if they like go rub your shoulders I'm just like who the fuck's who's going around rubbing shoulders Oh now I think there's a guy

There's a guy with soft hands And walk around the office is rub your shoulder Like when they sounds like Joe Biden Yeah I won't say but literally I'm like freaked out I think I know who it is Wait I have a guess

Who is it? I'm not gonna text Billy You just got to tell me if I'm Is it Rico? Oh, yeah, Rico. Rico has the softest hands. He's got a little fairy boy hands. Billy, just say it.

I know who it is. Yeah, I don't want to say it on there. Billy put his callus in the check. The only person I can think of is me. I was one of the handsiest people in that office, but I haven't been there. And I've never touched Billy. No. Yeah, Dan Katz.

Yeah, that's what I expected. Yeah. Big cat? Yeah, he's, I. Yeah, dude, it's weird. Just because it's so different than what you'd think. Can we call them in? Can we call it?

Can we get him in the room? He's on the yak right now. Can we hack into the yak? I don't know. No, let's just leave. Actually, let's just cut it. This would not be a, so Billy just got back to the office like 15 minutes ago. Billy returning and then calling Big Cat in to be like,

Billy says you got that's not a good way for Billy. to show himself, yeah. Let's wait at least like a day before you get under big cat skin. That also wasn't even my guess. But I guess it was going to be T.J. T.J.'s got very soft hands. I can see that? You ever dapped up T.J.?

Yeah. By the way, can I get some recognition for my meaty mitts? Great job. Meaty mitts? I don't people think I have soft hands. Oh, you do guys. He sent a pick to the group and he showed his calluses. You do have a lot of calluses.

I'm curious to know, like, what Drake, what has he held? in his life? A microphone? Man. It threw me for a loop. I dabbed him up twice. I dabbed him up in 2009 at a video shoot. And then years past, dog, 2016, 15.

I seen him at a battle rap event. Adapt him up again. Same, same texture. It makes you know. Softer then? It makes no. He gets hand surgery. And I've never, I've never ever in my life.

I got dapped up a lot of my heroes I've dapped up famous people that you know I like I don't like whatever the only reason why it was so like I remember it because I was like that is that is wildly soft like it was weird

you know why it's even weird like some of the dude like one of the dudes with like the most callous hands I ever had what he was a paraplegic and he had to like use his wheelchair all the time and like use the wheels and on degrade He was in a wheelchair. So who was wheeling around the wheelchair?

This goes back to my theory that I think Drake had plastic surgery on his hands to make them softer once he got money. It's like re-apulsed. Hold on. You said this goes back to my theory. Like you explored this moment and a half ago when I asked if he had a hand surgery.

It's like, Billy, do you mind slugging your green tea not directly into the microphone? It's like when you get a couch, tree upholstered with new velvet on it. Drake, Drake's got enough money and he probably knows enough good plastic surgeon so he can go in and be like, hey, but not, not, I tapped him in 2009, though, when,

I dapped him in 2009 when, when he was just on the verge of superstardom, like 2008, his mixtape blue in 2009, I think, was when he was fresh off to grassy at that. That was like so far gone right out. Yeah, yeah, so far gone right after that. He was in a video with, I think it was bun. I forget what it's called, but, um, yeah, man, I don't know. It's been soft for years.

Who's the softest hands? I hope he's grabbed things since, every quote, please don't, man. Yeah, I'm going to blog that, too. Y'all be doing the most of the clothes, bro. Barry Foster says Drake has the softest hands he's ever touched. That's crazy, man.

That's crazy. I don't, I don't know, dude. I've met him twice, like, have not. Never had a real conversation with, I don't know, I don't know. Houston rapper, Bobby Fino. Nah, I see, and then it stands, oh, you music sucks, bro. And I'm like, bro, I don't care. Like, I'm not into this back and forth shit.

You know, that's the one thing I regret about this show, though, is we had on buddy for TMZ, and I ain't telling fuck you. And you talked a lot of shit beforehand, too. I just, it was, because at the time, the podcast, in my defense, the podcast was, like, new. And that's, like, one of our first guests, actually. And, and I was like, I didn't want to ruin the flow of the show of like bringing some personal shit in, but I definitely should say, hey, man, fuck you. I don't remember if it was in the show or not, but before we interviewed him, you're like, man, I fucking hate this guy.

I'm going to tell him off. I didn't say I was going to tell him off, but I definitely said, I fucking hate that dude. But also, and to this day, they still write hit pieces about me. And there's even no news about me anymore. It's crazy. So, like, when my tweet went viral for my jersey thing and I called the NFL out for TMZ wrote an article about this shit, people send it to me.

And I got them blocked and muted. And sometimes they still show up. What did they say about you? They did the Dwayne House. I didn't read it. There's no way I read it. But it was like, it was like, it put me and Ray Rice and NFL doesn't show Ray Rice.

It's just like, it's just messy, messy. That's what TMZ. I don't, I'm not friends with anybody who follows TMZ. They're messy bitches. I'll send you the Drake link tomorrow as soon as it goes up before TMZ picks it up. Bro, okay, mark my words, bro.

Big TMZ. There is a high probability that this gets picked up, though. I was on a podcast with my guy Van Lathen. And in context of the conversation, I was saying, like, if you listen to Tupac's music, like, right? It's not, like, inherently deep, right?

Like, it's not like a... It's not very complicated. Hey, maybe I could have worded it better, but it's not like a, it's a very easy rhyme scheme, whatever. Like, I love Pock is my favorite artist all the time. I prefaced it with that. The next day, TMZ writes an article saying, Aaron Fawkes says, Tupac's not deep. I got death threats from that shit, though. Literal debt dude was like, I'm going to kill him when I see him.

And I'm like, for Pac, brother, she's crazy. And so I was like, that motherfucker is like, I don't know, man. Like, TMZ, they, for whatever reason, they just got it out for me. I don't know. There was another one. that was another one where I was on Twitter just talking

and I was like yeah I pee in the hot tub TMZ wrote an article by Fuster peas in the hot tub I'm like who like who is fucking just sitting there waiting and write a dumb ass

onion piece on me I think you don't do terribly dissimilar things at this company yeah I think you fucked Harvey's wife I was gonna say I've been there on a slow day

I might have I mean it seems what's a name I don't know it seems like there's some actual malice there Like, they're looking for something. I don't do nothing to the team.

I don't know nobody there. Like, but fuck them. Fuck everybody that works there, too. Yo, Bigty, you that, you're the little, you're the little kid that loved birthday parties. As a kid, maybe. I hate birthday. Like, I haven't, I haven't celebrated a birthday and I don't know how long. I agree.

When's your birthday? Because we are celebrated this year. It was May 4th. You were here. Oh, fuck. We went to the Braves game. Well, shit. We definitely celebrate.

Oh, we started a birthday to Maddie at, though. Her birthday was the sixth or the second? I didn't know that was your birthday. No, I didn't know it was your birthday. I keep it low key. We went to the main on my birthday, but big tease was that Wednesday that we recorded. Yeah, I didn't know. See, I didn't know.

We did definitely turn it up. No, I got you a little birthday gift and everything. That got your little strip of gram, bro. That'd have been fire. That's okay. I don't know fire. All right, guys, we will see you next Tuesday for macrodosing. It'll be June, right?

Probably. Yeah. Well, we'll probably be a day late because it's Memorial Day next month. Oh, that's right. Memorial Day. So the June bugs will be out. They will. The June bugs will be out.

Nailed it. They wait for June. Yeah. All right. We'll see you guys next week. Love you guys.