Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - NANODOSE: The Art Of War - Chapter 4 w/ Hendon Hooker & Tyler Baron

Episode Date: October 28, 2021

On today's episode of Nanodosing, the crew reads Chapter 4 of The Art Of War and reviews it. Tennessee Volunteers Hendon Hooker and Tyler Baron hop on the show as well. Make sure to tune into Macrodosing, every Tuesday at 7am EST.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Okay, we welcome on recurring guests of macrodosing. We've got our good friend, Tyler Barron, official macrodosing athlete, and then Hinden Hooker, the quarterback of your Tennessee volunteers. It's good to have you guys back on. I was just saying before we started taping, I saw the game last weekend. I thought in that first half, I thought it was Tennessee's weekend. I don't know if this is like a little bit of karma

for Big Tee when you know you were at the Tennessee game and you were throwing stuff onto the field the other way. No, that's, he promised me he would... That's sickening, accusation, stop. He promised me he would not bring any more mustard bottles to games. There's film of me and New Jersey. You're not supposed to...

No, we disavow. We disavow. We don't want that to happen. That said, though, Tyler scored a touchdown. And it was taken off the board, and it was bullshit. So, yeah. We don't condone throwing things. We don't, we don't. But Tyler scored.

However, that was horseshit. So, Tyler, can you walk us through what happened? Have you had a chance to watch the All-22 yet? Yeah, it was crazy. So we had got a good pass for us, but they were tackling the quarterback, and he looked confused. So I kind of just punched the ball out and just picked it up. And I just got the book. Yeah, that was a touchdown.

It was a touchdown in my book. Mine too. Did you, wait, did you get to do the Aryan Foster bow afterwards, or did you realize? They had a video of it, but then the video, they deleted it because they ruled it wasn't a touchdown. Damn. So our media didn't let me have a video. Damn, that would have been worth extra money for you. That's tough.

They're taking money out of your pocket now. Pardon me, bro. So I just heard back from Aaron. He just got back from his trip. He's a worldly traveler. So I guess he'll be on next time with you guys. but we are we are interested in talking to mr hooker about uh entering a business relationship so i you know what i'm going to do i'm going to put it on you and just so you know we're all

reading the art of war on this show so we uh you know it's not not our first rodeo when it comes to dealing with a minute i'm about to say yeah listen listen you don't have deadlines we're not in school we can read it our own pace right that's right right also the chapters are like a page and a half, maybe even less because they're like quadruple spaced. So we're not exactly burning through it. But, Mr. Hooker, I'm curious to know how you would like to see this partnership unfold. What can you bring to the table for the macro dosing podcast? Yeah.

You know, just shoot it straight. I can bring a lot of attention to it. Just from a viewer standpoint, you know, people will definitely tune in because I'm on the show. You know, you guys do a great job, though. You know, I enjoy watching whenever Tyler's long. I ain't a lot. You said they're very blunt, but I mean, I just said. That's almost shoot the straight.

I mean, yeah, can bring great exposure. Create great content. You know, I can bring in some questions if needed, hitting on different topics. You know, just a genuine guy. So coming here to be around great vibes. Hang on, hang on. I like that.

I like the great vibe. Hendon, what's your favorite conspiracy theory you'd want to come on the show and talk about? That's who I can do that shit. That's a tough question. That's actually a good question. Good question. Thank you. I'm going to definitely have to go back and get in my notebook.

Okay? Follow-up question. Hendon, what's the largest land predator you think you could be in hand-to-hand combat? These are the questions that would matter. And the ones that pertain. What is the largest? We're talking about land predator. We're going to say locked in a 30-yard by 30-yard concrete room.

No windows, no doors. It's you and the land predator. I don't know what's the largest land predator you think you'd take on in that setting. Billion. I don't have to say it right home, bro. That's my right. Why was you, why was this that raccoon? No, a raccoon.

What snake is that by raccoon? A cougar? It's over with. I think there's a lot of animals between raccoon and two. You don't think you can get like a baby bear? No. Like, yeah, I can get a baby bear. Yeah, baby animals.

No, we're talking. It has to be full grown. Has to be an adult. They can do that. I can get a snake. I can get a snake. I can get a snake. Don't say, don't say, don't wear a snake.

I can go. I can go around a snake. You could show got a snake so easy. by the way, would you, would you use no teeth or would you use your teeth try to like bite it in half? Good question. No, that's a valid question. I mean, essentially, like, it's you or a snake.

That's right. I got to go teeth. Yeah. By, absolutely. Would you, yeah. Survival at that point. I like how we asked Billy, what type of environment, Billy just created the gulag. I'm calling dude, he's like

No, you got a gulag, no weapons Yeah, gulag, no weapons I actually, you could do better than a snake though Like seriously, you could take out You could take out a dog, I bet Arian straight up says that he could defeat a wolf Yeah, I wouldn't I wouldn't want to like dogs

Because you take out like a little like a medium-sized Cougar like a bomb hit Guys, I don't want to I don't want to answer the question for you But we do have Kentucky next week The correct answer is a wildcat I like you're saying we No yeah

No I'm part of the team You could take a wild cat I could take a wild cat Yeah I just saw a little video on some cougars though And some mountain lines Yeah I saw a couple Cougar videos too

Now They look elusive Yeah they do I think that bobcat You could easily take out Bobcats are small Those are the ones with the fucked up ears With the like pointy thing on top of them

Yeah I'm like Yeah you would fuck up a bobcat Yeah, you would fuck up a bobcat for sure. Now, Big T just brought up a good point here. He used the word we as it pertains to the Tennessee Volunteers Football Program. Are you cool with that? Are you authorizing Big T to, he can we you?

Thank you, guys. I appreciate that. I always add to the family. Of course. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. He threw it up, man. All right, let's go.

See, I got, okay, anybody that ever says shit about saying we anymore, I got, I got this on tape. We're a we. We're a podcast. Yeah. Easy. So you were talking about content you were going to make. I read this morning. You got a book coming out?

Yeah. I have a ABC scripture book for athletes. Can we get like what's what's Z? I don't know. I honestly know. Yeah, Coli. Spoilers, man. You can't give away the end.

Yeah, I can't give out the tricks of the trade. But I'm definitely excited about the book coming out. it'll definitely help everyone you can help everyone you know they're on their scriptures all right a follow-up question on the same topic who do you think would win in a fight jesus or gondi jesus jesus easy answer gondi was non-violent that was his entire thing so is jesus oh yeah good point well jesus is ripped i feel like he smashed those tables yeah bill's mafia style here it's cross her it three and three pound gross yeah he carried He was malnourished.

Yeah, he was. His whole thing was hunger strike. Jesus would just make a bunch of loaves of fish. More questions. What's your number one Gaines meal? Like you got to put on weight. Like you're in high school. You're trying to put on weight.

What was your big gains meal? I'm going steak, potatoes, something green, and then a protein shake afterwards. Okay. That's good. What about you, Tyler? probably steak potatoes some type of greens and then probably like uh i don't really like

protein shakes so probably like shit oof like a milk shake after yeah you guys i'm talking dirty bulk guys like cut out the steak stuff dirty bulk dirty bulk i'm talking dirty bulk boys okay i probably get a tomahawk hell yeah yeah tomahawk I'm gonna be real I'm going like a big five guys meal Yeah, big greasy burger. I like that. You get every single sauce topping that they have, and there's just like too much. I don't know, because with just the couple of sauce I get now, if you wait like 10 minutes afterwards, then the burger's soggy. It does get a little soggy.

The bun isn't good. Yeah, the bun gets, the bun really absorbs it. Yeah, I usually eat five guys like in the restaurant and then waddle my fat ass back. So I like this. I like where this is going. I feel like I feel like you guys together make a great addition to the podcast here. And I like the idea that Hendon is bringing content to the table. So we could maybe send you guys a topic and just get your thoughts.

Have you joined the podcast for like 15 minutes a week or something like that? And we would certainly like to be in business with you. And now how many other people in the locker room, Tyler, have you told, Hey, these idiots have a lot of money and they're just trying to pay us money. The fucked up, sorry, the messed up thing was, the messed up thing was that I didn't even tell him about the money at first. I was just like, and then like these folks kind of cool, like, we should just come on the podcast and just hang out and talk.

Okay. And then I got talked about obviously, but at one point, me and Tyler were going to do our own podcast. Yeah, we were thinking about doing it. And then we came out here, we was like, shoot, we might should do that too. I mean, that was pretty cool. I like that. We did hear from Chase McGrath, didn't we, Avery?

Yeah, we heard from a lot of teammates. But I think you guys are the best fit. Can you guys commit to Mondays as a time slot to come on for like 15, 20 minutes to talk? Awesome. Okay. I think that's money in the bank right there. Yeah, it's definitely money in the bank. I wish Arian was here so we could talk dollars and cents.

He's our dollars, guy. He's kind of our dollars. His credit is better than mine. He's got like a 950 credit rate. rating or some stupid like that. That's great. Fantastic that you can go to that. Yeah, but we, we can definitely make the money part work.

I think, I think we've invmoed you. Both Arian and I have Venmoed you, right, Tyler? Right. Okay. If you're the IRS, don't listen to this. So we'll work out a similar arrangement with you. We'll figure out a number that works. I'm not too worried about that.

I just want to talk real quick about the Art of War with you guys, since this is our Art of War book club that we're having right now. And you guys have not read the art of war. You've heard of the art of war, though, right? So it was written by Sun Su. I think he's the first person to ever, like, just write a book because everything in this book is extremely basic. It's stuff that everybody knows.

So he was just the first guy to put it down into a book. And so he said that this way, I thought this was an interesting passage here. He was talking about people who are really good warriors. He said, the great warriors, victories bring him neither reputation nor wisdom for credit nor courage. So he was saying, when I was reading this, it's like if you're the Golden State Warriors back when they had the big three,

they don't talk about those guys as being great, you know, great at their jobs. They don't talk about them as being great basketball players and able to overcome adversity as much because they're already so good and they beat everybody else so bad. But the great warrior knows that that's actually a tribute when people don't give you necessarily the amount of credit

that you think that you deserve for beating people so badly. because you're expected to. So it's almost like the burden of expectations don't weigh down the head of the person who wears the true crown. At least that's what I took out of that. I agree. Anybody else have an important passage

from the art of war? I have one that I disagree with. Oh, okay. So he said, where is it? Oh, it's the 13. It says he wins his battles by making no mistakes. Making no mistakes is what establishes certainty of victory for it means conquering enemy that has already defeated. I don't, I think,

I don't think that's true. You think it's possible to make no mistakes? No, I think it's impossible to make no mistakes. I think, um, I don't know how war works, but I think they make a lot of mistakes in war and someone always wins. Yeah. I think people who, who can limit their mistakes. Right. Limiting mistakes is different than making no mistakes at all, though. I heard Tom Brady talking about limiting mistakes on the Manning cast on Monday. And he was saying that if you, make, if you get 70 plays a game and you have a miscommunication on seven of them, you're throwing away 10% of your opportunities to get yard, 10% of your opportunities to score.

Right. And so it's about limiting me. I don't think anyone's ever play like a perfect game. I don't think, what about you guys? Tyler, Hennon, have you guys, have you ever played a perfect game? No. I was going to say this, this ties in with Tennessee football. Tyler and Hennon, Maxim number one.

What? The team that makes the fewest mistakes. team that makes the fewest mistakes will win you don't get to demand what i'm not demanding anything they just know it they know what i they know what i they know what i'm talking about but like i okay because doesn't isn't art of war used a lot in like football scenarios yeah like exactly no team is perfect and like tom brady is the some may say the goat and he throws interceptions and he you know makes incomplete passes so i don't think that making no mistakes because I feel like if you try to make no mistakes and you make more.

Also, if you play a perfect game, you don't learn anything from that. Right. You learn from your mistakes more than you do from your accomplishments or a lot of people do. Right. I'm sure you guys learn from when you don't win games sometimes. And I'm sure you, you know, make mistakes and then you learn from them. And I also think war is a dump. Like, how do you not make mistakes in war? How do you know what you're doing when you wear war? Yeah. You don't miss a shot. Right. You don't accidentally kill a civilian. That would be wonderful. I took a turn. Can we cut that out in me?

Coley, what was your biggest takeaway from chapter four of the art of war by Sun Tsu? Well, we're sitting here with both defense and offense, and there was a passage that spoke directly to this. The general who is skilled in defense hides in the most secret recesses of the earth. So it's like when you're trying to blitz, you might not want to make it obvious. You might want to hold back for a second. and then when the ball snapped, rushed, there might be a stunt involved. So your defensive tackle takes out their tackle.

You come on on the inside. You were hiding behind that hog, Molly, in the middle. And then it says he was skilled an attack flashes forth from the topmost heights of heaven. Thus, on the one hand, we have the ability to protect ourselves on the other, a victory that is complete. You need defense and offense to get the job done, boys. And I think we can all agree here. Mm-hmm. Yin and the Yang.

Hinden, do you have, do you work on your play action to the point where you can do the thing where you fake the hand off and then hide the ball like behind your hip and then stand still? Definitely have to be able to do that since I was pretty young because I've always had big hands, real big hands. Yeah, let me look to it. This man has like, I don't even shake his hand no more. Like this man is way too big. Like, have you got them measured? Yeah. What's your, what's your hand span? or I don't know what they call it. It's 10.8.

That's pretty big. That's pretty big. That's like Josh Allen's size. Yeah. I think I have bigger hands of that. No, Billy, you don't play quarterback, though. You're wide receiver. I know.

He got moved. He got moved when he went to college from being a quarterback to being a wide receiver. No one ever asked you to do that, right? Because you're just a naturally great quarter. Yeah, no one. But, yeah, those are big hands. I like that for your draft stock personally. Hinden, are you a true freshman?

No, I'm not. No, I'm not. My boy old. I'm an old hit. I'm old here. How old are you? 23. That was, it was really nice, though, that you asked him.

Well, yeah. It's like when, so, so we could, I mean, we could theoretically create draft 10 and hooker.com. Yeah. I, I like that idea. I like that a lot. We got Josh Allen drafted, not to brag. Yeah. But we were the first ones.

P.F.T is the reason Josh Allen exists. We were the first ones. Oh, one was talking about him. No one. We noticed that he had big hands. He was tall. He had a rocket arm. Look good in shorts.

I think those are all the boxes that we checked off for him. So we made draft Josh Allen.com. And now he owes us $15 million of his $150 million contract. Hendon, that could be you. Yeah. You could one day you could owe me $15 million. One day you owe him $15 million. Yeah.

No, listen, here's how it starts. We start teaching you about the art of war. we build up both of your guys draft stock for the low, low price of 10% of any and all future contracts that you ever enter into in the NFL. And so we help you get, you know, drafted high. We help you get that second contract. And then we just ask for, you know, measly $10, $15 million on the other side of it. So think about it. It might be, it might be in your best interest. 100%. It's not like it. But the reason why I asked about the play action thing is that's always a Swedish when a quarterback like hides a ball behind their back and then the camera gets fooled on

the play action and then you're able to bomb it down the field that's some art of war shit right there deception all right um anybody have anything else for these two gentlemen uh what was your thoughts on the ending of squid game it's like i don't know it's better sweet i'm glad you made it out but you just spoiled it for me yeah spoiler alert i was going to watch squad game it's bad What the fuck? All right. You're fired. We're ripping up the contract.

I've already tuned in. That's crazy. Okay, so I guess I don't have to watch Squid Game anymore. You probably just saved me hours of my life. I appreciate that. Anybody else? Questions for the big men? I'm set.

We're good? We're great. All right. We're going to be in touch. We'll work this out. And we're happy to have you guys on good luck against Kentucky. I know, just heads up, their favorite play on defense is to sometimes not have an 11th defender out on the field. Sometimes Stoops just forgets to play a cornerback.

So if he does that again, just throw a pass your wide receiver that's not being covered. And then that's free game, bro. That's for a game. That's money in the bank. He basically just said hit the open man. That's the game. Yeah. You won't find that in your film study.

All right. Thanks, guys. We appreciate it. And we'll be in touch. Hope to have you on that. the show on Monday. We'll schedule out of time, figure out the finances, and good luck this weekend. All right. Appreciate job. See you. Would you rather have a stadium named after you or a field? Have we already talked about this? Stadium. Because ours is like Neeland Stadium. It's also Shields Watkins Field. Nobody knows that.

I kind of like the field, though. I like the field aspect. That's where the action is. The stadium, yeah, it gets all the credit, all the publicity. But the field, the stadium wouldn't be there if it weren't for the field. I respect what you're saying. The answer is still stadium. Okay. Because everybody says stadium. Yeah, that's true. I'm just saying like field seems like it's more of my stuff.

I get where you're coming from. By the way, I'm right about the football from Monday, from Tuesday. People are saying you're not. No, you're not. No, I'm right. We talked to Mike Floreo. He boomed most of you. Mike Floreo, the only reason he said that it didn't work was because they would never do it because it would be a PR nightmare, but they could.

Like, for example, if a basketball goes into the crowd, a basketball game, you have to get the basketball back. Basketball is a rare sport where they're only allowed to use one per game. But baseball is different. Hundreds per game, much like football, which uses 24 per game. They use that many per game. Well, it's 12 for each team, and then there's 10 kicking balls. Wow.

That's a lot of footballs. Anyway, I'm right. So it's 44 per game. Is it 44 per game, Billy? I don't know how many kicking balls are, but there's 12 for each offense. All right. So I don't think that Billy's right. That's okay.

I got a DM from a football lawyer. Billy's definitely wrong about the transfer. Who's a football lawyer? I don't know. That's so funny. It's just Florio. Florio is the only. But I do.

No, who was the, wasn't the jacked ref also a lawyer? Oh, Ed Hockely. Yeah, Ed Hoculie was. Well, this guy. We should ask Ed. Yeah. That's who would know. this guy trace does go to the university of kansas law he said that billy's definitely wrong

about the transfer of ownership from team to fan of the ball i'm not a lawyer i'm just in my first year of law school but this is a pretty simple issue of gratuitous transfer of property on behalf of an authorized agent of the team also baseball law is definitely not a thing l m a billy's referring avery you just said you just said avery before this we were in the kitchen i was getting tea and then Avery's like Why are you so scared to say that you're gonna Billy's so

I drink a shit time of green tea Every time I see Billy he's going to the kitchen and get a new cup of tea That's pathetic Billy I drink so much green tea You know tea it increases estrogen levels No green tea increases tea No it does not Tea makes tea

No it increases estrogen I could still whoop your ass You know who drinks a lot of tea is the queen The Queen of England Yeah and look at the them. They fucking conquered the world. No, not anymore. They gave away all their bullshit. Because they gave other people tea. No, they gave away

their bullshit. They took tea. They took tea and then they gave tea to everybody and then they used the tea against them. And then we dumped America dumped all that shit in Boston Harbor because they're like fuck that. We're trying to get gains. And all the water supply in America had tea in it. That's why Boston people are like they crazy. No, that's why all the frogs are gay now because there's so much

tea in the water. You said that. People said that I was right. Yeah, no, time out. I did say there was a DM that said you were partially correct. Avery's just lying to me. No, Billy is a portion right. Yes, there is a baseball law, but baseball law is related to the ability

to sue a team or MLB over an injury resulting from the ball leaving the field of play. You'd have to get hit by the ball. Yeah, but the, okay. Baseball is different than football. That's what we're saying. Because of baseball law,

that's why you can't apply that one. Or is baseball and football different because of football law? You're adding two things that don't, Go together. I've actually never seen so many people get mad at me. Yeah, people are pissed at you. There's also a lot of people on my side.

To be fair, it's because of how mad you got. That's why they're matching your energy. People in the YouTube comments are like, I've never seen someone so upset about something like this. And that's from people who watch YouTube. And this show. Yeah. I've seen people upset.

Subscribe to our YouTube channel. I hope you do already. This has been nanodosing. I released 18 minutes earlier. because of the mess up of our... I swear on my life, I have no idea what happened. I got like 15 DM saying that the podcast gotten taken down and I texted our audio guy, Mikey,

and he was like, yeah, the file is not in there. I have an idea what happened. Russia. Well, either Russia, possibly me repeatedly saying I am going to kill the president of the United States. Yeah, I was thinking about that. But I was saying it in context of you're not allowed to... I was referencing the Whiteest Kids You Know Sketch,

which says, I'm going to kill the president of the United States. United States. I'm not saying it. I'm quoting a guy who was quoting a hypothetical guy who was saying it. You know who else's name was mentioned in that episode. Hillary Clinton? I didn't say that but yeah. You've said that before though. Do you actually think that Hillary Clinton kills people? No. Also, do you know how many people went to like Saddam's palace and have like some of Saddam's shit in their man caves? Like some dude sent me a picture of a sink in his man cave and he's like, my dad got this from Saddam's palace. It was just a solid gold sink.

I was like, how the fuck did he get that home? I like they put it in his man cage. That's sick. Not like in a bathroom. It's just like, no. Trophy room. This is going right. It's going next to the Keggerator.

Old school. Next, underneath the dartboard. You know that's Saddam's toilet. They use it as a urinal. I would piss in it. Hell yeah. All right. This has been nanodosing.

We'll see you guys next week. Love you guys. Mm-hmm.