Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - NXIVM

Episode Date: January 12, 2023

On today's episode, the crew is back to talk the personality cult of imprisoned racketeer and sex offender Keith Raniere. PFT is out of the office with COVID, but wouldn't have missed the show for anything. Also an interview with "Hank," a person close to NXIVM with plenty of information on it. All of this and so much more on today's show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macrodosing listeners. You can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. Hey, bring us in, Billy? No, PFT can bring us in. He's here. Bring us in, Billy? Big T, bring us in.

No, no. Let's just start by roasting PFT for having COVID in 2023. That's not funny, Billy. Al in the chat. L in the chat. My bad. Billy, you're going to feel like a real jerk if I die. No, yeah, but you won't.

Yeah, take that back. You're probably, is it, is it his, is he getting to more COVID cases than vaccines? Yes, but we don't, it's not something to make fun of. I mean, honestly, if he drops randomly, Billy, it's probably. Well, this wouldn't be, this wouldn't be random, then wouldn't, Billy. No. Actually, it wouldn't be died suddenly. It would be died of COVID.

Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, There's a small part of me that hopes now that I croak Just so that Billy feels bad Just saying A part of you dies We'd like to be Part of me has already died

Working with this guy I think actually tell you what Clip this, send it over to old takes exposed Just in case I do pass away I want them to put this out here Just that Billy just catches on the chin If it's heart related though Why are we

Why are we like putting heart issues That don't exist onto PFT? I'm just joking. It's a... It's a bit. It's a bit. Yeah. I did see there was a study after Hamlin collapsed.

There was a study that was going around the internet for a while about like thousands and thousands of athletic, like athletes that have died in the last two years. And then the hard factor guys looked at the list that they put together of the actual athletes that they studied. And it was like 70-year-old grandmothers that were like had a heart attack at the, when they were doing water aerobics or like a 90-year-old person that was on a treadmill or like one 50-year-old guy that died of cancer. And so it was just a list of a thousand random people that have died in the last two years. They were doing athletic things. Some of them weren't even doing athletic things.

Some of them were just like walking on a sidewalk outside. Can you just admit that what you thought was going to happen, didn't happen when it came to getting rid of COVID? what are you talking about okay moving on no no no because you alluded to this

every time COVID is brought up past and I don't want to take too long on COVID but what did you what do you think we thought was going to happen because you always like smirk

when COVID's brought up like I told you so but I'm so curious is what you thought we thought was going to happen what did you guys think say it yourself no I want to know

to admit that what I thought was going to happen didn't happen yes that transmissions would totally be gone nobody said that that would be at least find one clip of me find one clip of me saying if you get vaccinated there will be no more covid find one i'll give you however you blank check stop stop the spread i think we can definitely find that on record and it's what are you talking about it stops it stops it stops it it slows it down.

Do we have to do this? It's funny, man. What do you think? I'm so, dude, it's 2023. I left COVID in 22. Okay, we did amnesty. We did amnesty. COVID amnesty.

What are you talking about, Billy? I'm just, I'm curious. COVID amnesty. We've gotten over this. I'm sorry I brought it up. I don't think you are over it. Billy was low-key excited. I got COVID.

I think so you're the most boosted dude what are you talking about I got two shots just like everybody else in the office and a boot did you not get a boostin I don't think that I did no you don't

so you're now you're now three COVID two shots uh yeah well the the first time that I got it it's unclear if that was a rebound because I had it twice in the span of like three weeks so at minimum two and two

at minimum two and two yeah how about this billy I'm boosted and I've never gotten COVID same congrats how does that how does it what is what I'm saying like when you look at shit anecdotally you have to look at evidence in the preponderance

and actually getting to that zoom out I'm at war with right wing Twitter right now because for some reason they decide to apply totally anecdotal evidence to pit bulls and totally just renegates their logic when it comes to other issues

and it's really pissing me I might be conservative what's their take they're just like pit bulls should be banned No one dude When you say you're in a war You sent one reply to one guy I check my replies

I went after three people Okay Sernavich I don't know I saw you reply to one dude who was like pit bulls are dangerous No he said they should be banned And it's just like are you fucking kidding me You're like

You talk about all these gun ban And I know one's an inanimate object and one, you know, can escape, but like there are similarities by logic and looking at statistics. Like if you analytically look at the statistics on both issues, you'll find that, yeah, probably a blanket ban wouldn't work for either of them. And it's just, it just pisses me off that they'd apply that to like, yeah, of course, there are dangerous pit bulls through a variety of reasons. but just like guns

irresponsible ownership is the direct results of all of these incidences where something goes wrong I think we can all agree on that what if there was a dude like if if there was a pandemic

of people nationwide that would like go into public places with their aggressive pit bulls and go on like mass dog biting sprees well that kind of does happen I'm talking about like what we see with guns violence sometimes like somebody goes to a parade brings a pit bull out and they're like okay go attack

attack as many people as you can how fast do you think pit bulls will be banned well fast i would i would i might do it i might equate that i might equate that to like when uh pit bulls aren't like dangerous pit bulls which if you know you have a dog or dealing with a dog that has aggressive tendencies and that may attack someone like let's say you're dealing with like one of the dogs that let's say a rehabed fighting pit bull that was taken from a kennel that was fighting dogs i don't think any of michael like michael vicks rehabbed dogs there's a documentary on them were put in a situation where they possibly could cause damage to a person or a dog because they were responsibly taken care of like yeah if there's something that dangerous you need to

ensure that the right training and the right housing especially is made to make sure that these things don't harm anybody else. And yes, there's probably dogs that do are past the point of no return because of, you know, abuse manipulation. And I'm not, I'm agreeing like bred aggression, but like applying those, like saying that, uh, 6% of dogs cause 80% of fatalities is totally misrepresented. If you look at like the, socioeconomic conditions, the accessibility of these dogs, and how they end up getting put in those situations where they are basically, like, let's say, you know, you have a tweaker in a trailer park who buys a bunch of these dogs because he's, you know, making meth in a lab and he doesn't

secure them. And he purposely gets them aggressive to guard his meth lab. What I'm hearing is the only thing they can stop a bad guy with a dog is a good guy with the dog. That was my tweet. That was my tweet. I tweeted that. I was like, We can't ban all pit bulls because only the bad guys with pit bulls. The bad owners with pit bulls are going to have them. We need good owners with pit bulls to stop the bad owners with pit bulls. But it's just like, I mean, look at Chicago, you know. Look at all those pit bulls running around.

No, I said, honestly, rural areas has the most dog attacks. Yeah, because fuck them. And also, they don't lock their dogs up. Native reservations have a lot of their kids' dog safety. attack's too. It's a, it's not a, uh, uh, or like, it's more of a socioeconomic issue because pit bulls are the cheapest dogs to buy and they're being, like if I just want common sense pit bull control. You say, you say, you say, you say, you say, you say, you say, you say, poor people shouldn't have pit bulls. Is that no, I'm saying that maybe there should sounds like

more restrictions on yeah, well actually, yeah, people's pit bulls. Yeah, because should like, you're not using your pit bulls correctly but like basically like backyard breeders are breeding pit bulls there's a wide a lot amount of them they're not new like 80% of the dog attacks are caused by unneuter dogs like you know it sounds like what you're saying to me is pit bulls left to their own devices are dangerous but if they're trained correctly and extensively then they're not right just like i mean that's kind of antithetical to your argument no but when pit bull bank are put in place, usually dog bites of other breeds, there's a huge uptick. So, for example, England's had a dangerous dog ban since 1991, and they've just replaced, like, the people

who are wanting a status symbol of an aggressive dog, like, in once an intimidating presence. What's their, what's their attack ratio to ours? I think it's pretty similar to the amount of dogs they have in England. So like, for example, if you pull up, there was nine fatal dog attacks in England that I think

population-wise comparatively to the United States. I think there was, like in the past year, I think there was nine in England, 20 in the U.S. Let me look at the exact statistics. But they're all using like

American bulldogs and other larger dogs like mastiffs or rot, I don't think rot was illegal, but mastiffs that are causing the attacks and not pit bulls. I know that in Australia, they had one pit bull accent back in like the 90s

and it took out like 30 people then they banned pit bulls they haven't had another pit bull attack since so just use your head well there was a there was a pit bull attack in a cafe in Sydney and 2016 and only a bad guy with a pit bull was there where did this whole thing come from I don't know I just got I just got like I it's just no you're you're flubbing the stats real quick buddy

you're wait let me let me look let me look Yeah, you said there's only 20 in America. That's not true, man. Fatalities. Here are dog attack statistics breeds. Oh, we put up. Dog bite related fatality. Pit bulls 284 deaths.

Robweiler's 45 deaths. Since 2005. I know the exact stat you're looking at right now. If you go to... Recent dog bite statistics of Americans... I literally was just reading it all night. List of fatal dog attacks in the United States. We're going to pull up 2020.

is an example. You got to make a documentary bit suddenly. Yeah, I know. I was about this morning, I was literally writing one, I'm with the propaganda. Oh, I see,

I'll be interviewed. I see what prompted all this. It was a seven-year-old, are you just going to keep counting? It was a seven-year-old in Louisiana who was mauled to death in her yard by a neighbor's pit bull. Oh.

That's enough for me. Sounds vaguely dangerous. Lock them all up. They're dangerous to society, and they had no benefit. You're not sending the best and brightest pit bulls. Billy's right. Well, if anything, there needs to be like some bad battles. Well, I did, yeah, some bad badros.

So when I was selling these dogs down in Texas, I did notice this anecdotally because I would go set up outside different sites, right? And sometimes I'd be outside the whole food. Sometimes I'd be outside of PetSmart. And then other times I go down to the Walmart. in San Marcos. And Walmart and San Marcos was a special type of place because that, I got more people that would drive by with baby pit bulls, like little puppies in the back of their cars, trying

to sell them to me. And then I'd also get people that would come up and just be like, hey, y'all got any pits? And if I did have a pit, I'd be like, yeah, I got this one. And be like, oh, no, he's neutered, ain't he? And I'd be like, yeah, he is. Sure is neutered. I'd be like, I want him. But there would be people selling pit bulls.

in this parking lot all the time yeah and it was it was for like either protection or fighting or maybe a little bit of both and that was definitely like the uh the lowest socioeconomic area that i would go set up in and it was the only place that I ever saw it happen and happened all the time so it's easily it's easy to get a pit bull and they sell them for like 50 bucks sometimes so it's yeah so it's like a side hustle for some people yeah so it's 30 to 50 30 to 50 people die per year from pit bull attacks wait wait that's just pit bulls i read so in 2022 i just read 26 people in the united states died in england 10 people died in 2022 and they have a that's that's all dog that's all dog attacks i'm sorry that's all dog attacks

30 to 50 people die per year all dog attacks but 66 percent of those deaths are attributed to pit bulls i think that i think bill is right though if you take away pit bulls if you're not allowed to have pit bulls. People are just going to get other breeds a dog and treat them just the same. And then those dogs are going to bite and those dogs are going to kill. This does not have pets. That's what I said. Right. But the demand is going to increase. The demand is going to increase for a pit bull like dog. And then you're going to have cane corso's getting bred more. And then the supply is going to go up. The price is going to go down. The accessibility is going to go everywhere. There's a, there's a black market pit bull thing going on. It's like if you take away safe access to

safe abortions, then people will be crossing state lines to pick up like these little knockoff pit bulls. And guess what? Then those knockoff pit bulls aren't going to get taken to the vet because the vet will probably have to report them. Then they're not going to get neutered and the attacks are going to go up. So there was a there's a study done in places in America and Canada where pit bulls were banned. And in replacement, Rottweiler bites went up and Labrador bites went up. Yeah. Which is crazy. So, I don't know.

But the thing is, it's just like, like, they use that. Do you guys see that beeping on my end? Sorry. I find the sounds of the city, like, relaxing, like a rainforest. Yes, you can hear it. Yeah, this is ridiculous. There's like a truck that's across the street that's been in reverse for the last five minutes. Go yell out the window.

It's New York. You can do this. Be like, shut the fuck up. I'm doing a podcast here. That's like a very common. Walk in here. Yeah. Like, it's New York, bro.

All right. I'm going to do it. Hang on. Say, shut the fuck up. Can you take your mic? We'll do a podcast here. We'll hear him. Nope, nobody's saying it. Might not, though, because

Discord. Hey, think you car out of reverse. I'm podcasting here. Say it loud or I don't think he heard you. You know. Studio. I don't think they listened. Good job.

It's so beeping. Oh. it worked all right hell yeah hell yeah i love being you need a podcaster at work sign to put on your door that would be yes oh my god no chicks would be throwing themselves through my window if you have a podcaster at work sign yeah i'd probably create a ruckus so a husky a husky had a fatality. Two Huskies had a fatality in England in 2022. So it's like, do you have pit bulls? I'm not a sim. I just, I may have, I have very good friends who are pit bulls or pit bull adjacent. And it's just, it's BS. They're great loving dogs and this whole idea that they snap at a moment's notice is.

Do you think, uh, pit bulls are at all more dangerous than other dogs in general? Like one person. I do think that there are dogs that have been conditioned for aggression. So yes. Just say yes, I can say yes, man. What are you dancing around now for? I think, but yet, 100%. They're bigger. They're more,

they're more able to cause damage, 100%. And if those dogs should be, the responsible thing to do with those dogs is if they're literally running around attacking people, they need to be responsibly put down. Or if they're just naturally high energy, high energy put them in a working environment like hog hunting and let them run and do what they want to do and keep them in a kennel and responsibly like they come out and

some hogs every now and again well yeah i mean if they if you want to put these that's a pretty simple answer that's a responsible if you don't let your pit bull go kill some pigs yeah it might attack a kid yeah but you should you have to do you read before you get a dog yeah but like i know this I'm just saying this whole let's ban pit bulls coming from these specific people just pisses me off because they're it's completely antithetical to a lot of their arguments and it's just I don't know I can't like I like to think that I'm an independent thinker and I have one set of logic and if you're just like fucking around and just not having independent thought and like claim to be like a you know an advocate for a certain set of things conservatives contradicting themselves yeah but it happens on both sides. I have never once in my life heard of this as a conservative issue. He's liking it to the gun. He's liking it to the gun debate. And I understand that, you know, guns and pipples aren't the same thing.

One's inanimate, but like you don't leave a child alone with a gun. You shouldn't leave a child alone with a dog that you think, like, a responsible owner would not leave a dog that like that. Like Billy, your dog, Whitey, he's a credit to his species. He's very well-spoken. He's clean, articulate. I would leave any kid with Whitey. I'm going to be honest. I'm a responsible owner.

I wouldn't just because he hasn't played with, like he sometimes plays a little rough and I wouldn't want to leave him with a child that was much lighter than him and didn't, I wouldn't do that. I would never put him in that situation. There's no such thing as a bad dog, just a bad owner.

Yeah, I would be a bad owner. if I left him alone with a toddler and just because even with any dog like there's there's there's family dogs on this list that accidentally like hurt children in their like huskies I'll read the more other ones German shepherds just because it was playing by a lot playing gone wrong yeah I think uh have never like just thought about the psychology of owning a pet like we took an animal we genetically manipulated them into our own

selfish needs for thousands of years we have just crafted like slaves it's it's wild when you think about what we've done with dogs and like when you say that

when I say I hear the hair standing up in the back of y'all's neck when you say that people are so offended like people get so mad at my dog takes right they just think I'm a monster but I'm like yo you're the monster You're the one who has kidnapped these sentient beings and decided you know what's best for them. It's wild.

If I took a domesticated dog and put it out in the woods, it would die. You sound like a slave owner. Am I lying? That's what they should say to slaves. They used to say like, you know, that's true. You wouldn't be able to make it out there by yourself. You should be glad I'm giving you these meals. You're, dog, it's what, no, if one thing we know on this earth, if you took a poodle and put him in a jungle, yeah, you're probably not going to make it because, but what I'm saying is life happens. Life evolves. If you, there will be species of dogs that die out, 99.9% of every species that has ever been on this planet dies. Guess what? Most of them are going to die if you put them on the wild. But some are going to adapt and evolve. That's life. But you thinking you know what's best for them is wild. I do know what's best for, I do know what's best for,

individual dogs right now. I swear to God, dogs are dumb as shit. They need me to tell them what to do. If you were to say, like, do I know what's best for the wolf species as a whole thousands of years ago before they got domesticated, then that's another question. Then at that point, when we start to domesticate them for like farm work, for, uh, for just like life, for hunting, that's a choice that we actively made. Right now, there's a golden retriever that lives next door. If I go, I kidnap it and then I drive it out to the finger lakes. and drop it off in the woods, that dog's going to die within five days.

That's a fact. It's going to get killed. I mean, wolves and coyotes kill dogs all the time. That's what's up. But another thing, honestly, it's actually a lot of the animals.

Do you think wolves look at domesticated dogs and they're like sellouts? Oh, yeah, soft, soft. Yeah, they're like, you ain't, you're the suburbs. They suburb, you know what I'm saying? It's just sweet, man. You know what I'm saying?

ain't never been through nothing you know what I get these meals literally handed on a silver platter we out here we out here grinding you know what I'm saying for the bottom shout out the wolves man shout out wolves I agree with that but actually actually domesticated animals have won the genetic lottery like an animal subconsciously I mean is wired to try to procreate to make sure its genetics gets passed on right so like look at this the the American the aurochs right the european oryx which was the wild european cattle are extinct but there are ancestors who are now domestic cattle are now still around it was probably the greatest move for them to sort of not resist domestication yeah they wouldn't have survived oh hell no think

about it you need tell me you need tell me the best thing for a species is to be livestock for another species like you're just saying if you want they're bread for us to eat right but they're they they don't go extinct their genetic lineage has continued because of they of that their sole their sole purpose is to feed humans i mean you saying they what if you're saying if you if you could reason with a bull right and you said hey what's up bull uh do you want to just eat grass and procreate all the time as much as you can but like you know

you're gonna hit a demise when we're no longer have use for you if you could reason with a bull and then be like and you'll have calves and you'll have tons of heifers around you and you'll like be able to chill in a field but one day is your one logic that you

that you say you have one set of logic here it is give me freedom or give me death right yeah but i don't think a bull i don't think a bull really you reason with them they'd probably say i'd rather i'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees oh yeah but i mean think about it i just did and it's stupid they want food shelter like food was was it the three fs are you talking about the uh the hierarchy of needs yeah it's as low yeah food fucking

oh you're you're using a bro you know it's like food fucking friends no it's food fornicate and this is this is billy's hierarchy of needs no this is how we like remembered it in bio his hierarchy of needs is is fuck food frogs three Fs

wait is it anyway anyway um I did want to follow up on something that we talked about because I had And the listener sent me this dude's name, this football coach, because on Tuesday's nanodosing, we talked a little bit about Aryan strategy as a football coach, where he would just not let the team practice or not force a team to practice and just like save up your energy, don't get hurt, that sort of thing and focus on other stuff.

A listener sent me the name of a high school football coach from Minnesota to look up. So I looked them up. and it's a guy named gagliardi so he was a football what's that Billy? From St. John's? Yeah.

Yeah. You know him? They recruited me. And why didn't you go there? Different reasons. Okay. What were one of the reasons? Academics.

Oh, you didn't make it? Yeah, kind of. Okay, so he was a football coach. up in Minnesota at St. John's University, right? And he coached from 1953 until 2012. He's the all-time winningest college football coach in the United States history.

He's got more wins than anybody. And his coaching methods were distilled into a series of winning with nose. So he had things that you were not allowed to do at his college. No blocking sleds or dummies. He didn't give out any athletic scholarship. scholarships, no weightlifting program, no whistles, no coach. The players just called him John, no tackling in practice. Players wore shorts or sweats. No long practices, an hour and a half

or less. And so he was the all-time winningest college football coach in the history of the sport. And he coached up in Minnesota for like, what is that, 50 years, 60 years? Pretty crazy. So like, it can be done. It's just that we've always done it one way. And that's kind of how it's been accepted to be throughout the sport. I do think that there's at some point you have to make sure that you guys can tackle a little bit and you have to work on the form tackling. But I think that if you have good enough players, then you can definitely get away with not practicing or at least changing how practice looks entirely.

Yeah, I didn't say no practice. I said like practice as far as like we should not be exerting this much energy on a Thursday. You know what I'm saying? I remember when I play, I don't know how it is now, but like, the CBA said you're allowed one padded practice per week through the season. I think that's still the case because it's still under the same CBA. That's stupid, like to me. That's really dumb.

It just makes sense that as sports science, as more and more teams start to, like, add heed to sports science, like the majority, like, when I went to Miami, they were really big on sports science, and they were saying, like, they have people on, like, on call, literally with laptops and monitoring people. people's heart rates and stuff like that. And I'm like, okay, let him sit for like three reps because of so, so, so. And like all, they, they collect all this data and they use it. And that's, that's what it is.

Sports football especially is so far behind because it's such a, it's just like this militarized place where it's like you, if you, I remember, I remember like getting concussions and like there was like, oh, you got your bell wrong. Like, yeah, I did. But like, it's just like, that's, that's the mindset of football. So like, once, once that shit is always. once they start to realize the asset is the player careers are going to be longer the games are going to be funer to watch because week 17 all your starters are playing rather than like

three or four of them that was the weirdest thing ever I remember in uh in the league was like end of the year like you're playing against people who are like not that good because all the starters like all the really good people like they all get hurt over over the year and so you're playing with guys who they bring up from practice squad they call calling guys in you know what I'm saying so it's like towards the end of the year like the roster's depleted and so there's only one way to stop that shit they'll never ever ever take games away but 17 games is crazy yeah like it should be what like 14 I mean I'll 16 was cool it's just it was a Thursday night games that are stupid to me like that's just

that's just dumb it's just so dumb it just doesn't make it just make it. any sense, man. And then you, like, you claim to care about player safety and you you got a Thursday night football game, right? Get the fuck out of here. Tells me you ever play for them. Get? I think coaches also are going to be like a little bit against eliminating some of these practices or at least changes to the rules because coaches still, at least in my experience, they see practice as the opportunity that they have to like instill discipline on their players. So you can make people run more. You can make them do drills that they don't want to do. It's a way of holding players accountable. Like,

if you fuck up at a game, then you've got, you know, you have to do like eight more reps than everybody else, or you have to go through a gauntlet and get your ass kick for a little bit. It's like the main tool that they have to make sure that you're being accountable to all your details. It's also, also practices is like the coaches only, like, receipt for them doing a good job, right? You know, like, in their eyes, right? They're like, I have to control the situation, and they're control feats. like football coaches are control feats and so their only control is like okay if they do it my way

then the product that we put out is the best like i remember the lockout year coaches were scared there's going to be all kinds of crazy injuries they're scared the the quality of play was going to go down but what ended up happening was all those OTAs and all that extra practices shit guys just spent time with their actual trainers that it's uh you know specify for your skill set they just spent all that time with them in the offseason and everybody had a great year guys were healthy it was it was amazing and so they'll figure it out sooner later man what were your stats like that year uh i know i made a pro bowl um i think i got hurt in training camp so i missed like the first and third game and then i think i got off and i think yeah

i got off and that was 1200 like 200 like 200 something like that getting back to the st john's coach I honestly don't think, and Aaron may disagree with me, I don't think that type of philosophy would work on the D1 level just because at the D3 level, there's only a limited amount of practices. There's less practice they can do as opposed to a D1 schedule, and they don't have as much off-season programs. So if that time was spent more on football schematics and X's and O's, then they definitely had a leg up on the competition. And of course, D3, three is a much uh the athletes are much different so that the speed is much slower so the the difference in a weight program and putting getting players up to like you know superhuman athletic level

through lifting wasn't as important no i think high school and college practice definitely serves the purpose because a lot of guys don't know technique a lot of guys don't know you know they have to see stuff and a lot of times you can only that only works for you you know if they if they're live bullets but i was more referencing like the NFL where guys if you're there you know how to play more than like you know what I'm saying if you don't don't fight somebody who can and so it's like high school yeah I understand practicing but even then like in the season let's just fastly go through this shit like what about what about what about line play because line play is so inherently physical that the only way that you can

tell who's good and who's not is by putting them in line in live drills with each other and seeing who's strong, who can hold up to a bull rush, who can use their hands, that sort of thing. So wouldn't they need the reps more than any other position? Yes, but like I said, if we're talking to NFL, you already know how to do that shit, right? And so it's basically just refining your technique. And a lot of the shit, especially when you get to like year eight, year nine, most of them cats don't practice anyway. Like, I don't know a bunch of alignment, especially like when we go inside, when you go into the bubble and you're practice on turf. A lot of older guys can't practice on that turf anyway. So you just be sitting

out. And so I think, like I said, it serves a purpose for the younger cats, like high school shit like that. But high school line play is so bad anyway. You're not missing much, man. I promise you. Like, if you're good, you're going to be good. But high school line play is just not that good. It's like when you watch back like high school film, it's really, it's not that good. The worst was in high school if there was like rain or thunderstorm outside and you had to you had to put your shells on practice in the gym. Coach hated hated practicing on the basketball court. He was like there's going to be some candy ass shit today. He thought like we're going to catch basketball like it was a disease that we're going to get by practicing in their

gym. You're not going to want to hit. You're going to be flopping for penalties. Yeah. That was such a saying in training camp like in middle school and even like early high school they'd be like you're going to discover if you're a basketball player today yeah i mean i mean i think i think the chiefs play basketball in a football field sometimes but they're so damn good at it that uh it's actually like they're a really good basketball team they're the harlem globetrotters against some teams yeah they clown them they clown our head coach would just anytime he wanted to demonstrate football players versus everyone else our practice field was like up elevators above the school so you could look down and see it and he would just point down at the

building and he would go everybody down there XYZ and so down there was was everyone else and then the football players were up here not football players right it was it was the football team and then down there I love it I love it one of my favorite things is when listeners send us examples of their most ridiculous high school football stories and like stupid shit that their coaches did to them because high school football coaches are they're they're just like such unique people that they uh they they do they do too much sometimes but they're always like they think that they're innovating the game they think that they're carrying on like a great tradition of of athletics and a lot of times they're just the biggest shitheads in the world

they forge men the next man of america pfd can you please like the back part of the military and our whole government is high school football coaches they make men out of boys so just wanted you to know that I don't think you did high school football coaches should get military style medals and they should be awarded like ranks in the Marines because

you're right it's like pre-boot camp is what they're doing they I mean honestly I think there was a quote whereas like the backbone to the U.S. military is football because it teaches training like it introduces the whole idea of training camp and like basic training

like to a much wider spread base. Yeah. Anytime we talk about high school football coaches, I always have to mention the legend from Libertyville, Illinois. Dale Christensen. Yeah. Dale Christensen, I think I've told this story on this podcast once, if not twice before, but it's always worth it.

He was a big fan of motivational techniques. He was a real football guy. A high school football coach in Libertyville, Illinois, frightened and horrified his team by staging a fight that ended with phony gunfire, fake blood and his son believing that his father had been shot. So Dale Christensen arranged a fake fight between two of his players. He stepped into the altercation.

Two shots rang out. The coach fell to the floor with a red stain on his shirt. And then Christensen bounced up several seconds later and announced that the shooting was bogus to motivate his team. The players had already scattered, seeking cover or an escape. And witnesses said that as his father lay on the the floor, Reed Christensen, his son, a linebacker said, my dad's been shot. I ran for my life. Obviously, the shock of the idea we were going to die overshadowed at any point he was trying to

make. Christensen told school officials as the incident in which a starter's pistol was used was a motivational exercise to the superintendent. Wasn't the funniest part was what he said about his wife? He was like, it came off much better with my wife. Yeah, yeah. He, he, he's He pitched it to his wife first. He's like, I'm going to get these boys to really respond to me this week. I'm going to make him think I got shot breaking up a fight. And then there were allegations of racism that got thrown at him later too because there were only like a couple African-American students at the school.

And he picked one of them to be the kid with a gun that shot him. So it was not a great idea by Dale Christensen. But it's also like the ultimate example of a football guy like high school football coach, a legend that's fucking hilarious i think whatever i wish i was there for that one our first episodes we just talked about crazy high school football stories yeah if you remember yeah send me send me me more dms because i i i don't sometimes i might not use them on the show but it brings me such joy going through the dms that get sent with like stories of what their high school coaches did that um i would really appreciate it if you send it over so thank thank you guys um so

shout out dale we have anything else in particular you guys want to get into i have i have like two other stories that i saw on the news we got no planes we have planes i just looked up the the flight scanner over united states and there's just tons of planes in the air so i don't know what the hell yeah do we have plans or do we not have plans i have seen no announcement of the resumption i saw i saw i saw an article that was that was early this morning because i i went and i golfed and shot in 90, so it's no big deal. But I said FAA, this is NBCNews.com,

so I know how trustworthy it is, Big T, but it says FAA system restored after outage that halted a domestic flight departures, all domestic flight departures in the U.S. So I think ground stop was lifted at 8 a.m. this morning, 8.50 a.m. this morning and normal traffic operations were resuming gradually. A guy that I went to, a guy that I went to college with, who I actually think listens to this podcast, works for the, FAA and posted on his Instagram story today, O'Hare and Midway in Chicago.

And it was literally, you know, dozens and dozens of flights in those two little, basically where the airports are, and then just absolutely nothing else. So all of the planes stuck in Midway and O'Hare. And then there's just absolutely no flights going in or not in Chicago, like the two biggest airports with two of the biggest airports in the country. There's just nothing. Yeah, I checked the, I sent you guys the flight aware, live flight tracker, and I saw planes flying around. So there may have been how, do we have a time how long they were all down?

I don't know, but this is why we need high speed rail. It's why we need Buttichich to get out of his wine cellar. Yeah. Is he, is he, I don't know what what Buttigieg does as, uh, transportation guy. He's in charge of the, of the FAA. Follow this. I follow this dude who, um, and I don't know much about it. It's not much interest to me, but, uh, who just is on that dude's, um, like a bruh, bruh, he is on Pete Buttigieg's head. There's just like big ass thread that he's been on his, he's been on his head like since Biden got elected. And he's basically saying that

Buttigieg dropped a ball on all of this. And this is why all this stuff is happening. So I've added to look into it. And so I don't know the validity of it. But did you know when he was the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, they had so many potholes that the government never fixed that dominoes eventually their drivers were getting their cars messed up every time they went to deliver pizza. because there were so many potholes. So they finally paid to pave the potholes. And that's who we elected, or not elected, but appointed the Transportation Secretary. So he basically got appointed Transportation Secretary because he dropped out and endorsed Biden

when it looked like Bernie was going to put up a fight against Biden. You remember that day when like everybody dropped out at once to consolidate behind Biden? He was like one of the first ones to do that. Now, the haters out there might be like, hey, PFT, you're biased on the situation because there might be a picture of me having dinner with Mayor Pete floating around on the internet. But to them, I would say, I didn't want that picture to be taken in the first place. So I would like you to kindly not bring that up as a got-your moment for me. So-

Wait, and what happened was I was hanging out with my friend Tommy, Aaron, you know, Tommy. and Deez's. So we were hanging out, and then we got invited to go to dinner. A mutual friend of mine, Tommy's, was working with Mayor Pete, and they're like, hey, Mayor Pete's like a couple doors down. He had just been on Deas and Mero. They're like, do you guys want to come over? So we came over.

We sat down. We had a couple appetizers. He asked me for some fancy football advice, and then I was like, okay, I got to go because I had to get back to work. I leave, and then, because I didn't want a picture to be taken because I was not, like, endorsing Mayor Pete. I think he seems like a nice enough guy. I don't know enough about his policies.

I'm not a politician. So I didn't want to seem like I was endorsing anybody. And so, but then they just grabbed like all of us before we left. And then it's like me, Deezis Miro might have been there too. And Mayor Pete in this picture and this one Midtown Manhattan restaurant. And then I was like,

oh, God. People are going to absolutely hate me for that. Oh, what the fuck? Yeah. And it said it to the group, yeah. What the fuck? Got to bear peak, eh I did interview him

I interviewed him for like 45 seconds before one of the debates one time basically I don't think he's that bad honestly I think he's a nice enough guy you just you replied to this photo just with a question

question mark oh man what crew yeah so I did I left before the check came nice did you order anything Order anything for dinner?

I found this thread on Twitter. It's Pete Buttigieg like petting his dog. And it says so far, buddy seems to be winning my birthday. And PFT responded, Sick Brackett, it's your birthday. And this, all this makes me cringe. Pete Buttigieg responded, so what'd you get me? Nice. Did I say anything back?

Did he send like a winky face? It doesn't appear so, no. Yeah, I can't reply to that. Did you? Oh, Charlemans in this picture. I forgot the Charlemagne was there too. Oh, shit. Oh, shit, he is.

Oh, what a wild time that was. And tweeted out by Malcolm Gladwell. Wait, yeah, is that real? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was a really good friend of Tommy.

like the the Malcolm Gladwell I'm assuming there there aren't too ambiguous Malcolm Gladwell but like holy shit is Malcolm Gladwell a fan of yours BFD? One time my grandma hit me up because she's a big fan of Malcolm Gladwell and I guess she was like listening to one of his speeches

or one of his podcast or something and he mentioned my name in terms of like a satirist and so she was like oh my god Malcolm Gladwell said you said your name but I think it was right after I had this dinner so I was like fresh on the top of his head

and Mayor Pete's and Mayor Pete's yeah so this is not an endorsement as we covered on nanodosing on Tuesday I'm a Republican so not endorsing Mayor Pete where were we

oh the IRS might get I get banned. No, I know that's all just trying to make the Dems look bad in the Senate. There's something else. I don't know. We're getting rid of gas stoves. What's up with that? And AOC has one.

Big T, I'm glad that you brought this up because on this, on this, I think that we can all find a lot of common ground. Like, this is the dumbest fucking thing possible that anybody could ever try to do. Why, why would the Democrats are like,

I know he's not like a Democratic politician. He's an appointed guy that works for whatever administration it is or whatever department it is. I mean, talk about an easy way to get everybody to hate you. Like people, people love their fucking gas stoves. They love them.

Like I didn't know that it was like a big staying culture until I started looking to buy a house. It was like back in 2013 when I was looking at house shopping down in Texas. And I started, you know, going into all these different kitchens and seeing like what they were featuring and all this stuff people care a lot about their ranges about like a viking range or like a a fancy like wolf range it's a big big deal a lot of people oh you know what else for those that don't know can you fill us in that don't know like what is what is going on with gas stoves yeah so um there was a recommendation

put in a place to phase out gas stoves in america so uh saying that gas stoves um kids are 12 percent more likely to grow up with asthma if they live in a home with a gas stove because of more like the combustible, like more like actual smoke and also just the gas will leak out at a very slow rate even when the stove isn't being used. So 12 percent higher probability of childhood asthma. And there was some other stuff that they mentioned to aside from like normal safety issues. But at the same time, like people, people like this is more of an issue than pit bulls art, people. People love their stoves way more than they love their dogs. But also

that's totally, those stats are totally skewed by socio-economic issues. We should, we should run that poll. What does America love more? Stoes or dogs? Dogs, 100%. Well, I guess it would be food or dogs.

No, no, but the thing is gas stoves are That's crazy. It's even a... No, but in older, in older apartment buildings and older houses, gas is the what's used you're not getting any electric stove tops in older like in poor areas and in different and so but so that just that asthma correlation probably has to do with smoking which is more like like that's a stat that's easily like like stats you can throw stats on

anything and it just doesn't explain the real underlying cause of like yeah i don't think anybody's saying they're they're causing they're the sole cause of asthma, but it could be a contributing factor is probably what they're saying. Did you see? That's why I don't get to. Why are people so reluctant to change? Like, we all know the shit,

the energy that we're using is not that good for us and it's not that good for the environment. So like, we know slowly but surely we have to say, like, why when somebody's like, you know, let's have let's start thinking about other things than stoves and people are like, fuck that. I'm almost like, why is that? I don't understand. If we really gave a fuck

about the environment, we'd start putting in nuclear power plants. Because that is literally the cleanest fuel possible. I thought you were going to say nuclear-powered stoves. And I'm on board. Every American gets a tiny piece of uranium to keep inside their kitchen. Did you all see AOC tweeted, did you know that ongoing exposure to NO2 from gas stoves is linked to reduced cognitive performance? And she has posted pictures on her Instagram numerous times of her in front of her gas stove in her house.

yeah that doesn't surprise me which to be fair does not discredit her claim she said all right so i got the article up right now it was biden appointed u.s. consumer product safety commissioner richard trumpa junior and it was an interview that he did with bloomberg and he said that the household appliance is a hidden hazard and products that can't be made safe can be banned but besides a ban to other options include setting standards on emissions from the appliances. So it sounds like he was saying that we need to start phasing them out or at least nerfing them. We need to nerve gas stoves and then incentivize people to buy electric stoves by offering like a tax rebate or a credit for any person that purchases an electric stove. Joe Biden, President Brandon today

came out and said he does not support a ban on gas stoves. It was just... He's big oil. But do you mean. Yeah, Trumka, Trumka Jr. was the guy that said it. So Big T and President Joe Brandon, handshake. Finding some common ground. Airfires are better.

Airfires are pretty good. I love the airfire. If no one. Do they make like jumbo airfare, like big ass air friars? Mine's too small. I need a bigger one. That is the problem with air prices that they are kind of small. You've just invented an oven. Aaron.

A convection oven. I mean, that's what it is. Oh, struck a genius. What did you say? No, it's very smart. But yeah, the convection oven is the one that's got like the fans inside of it. And it circulates the air around better. That's why an air fryer is so good because it moves that air around.

I don't have a microwave or a toaster, so I cook literally everything in the air fryer. I had Pop-Tarts in the air fryer yesterday. Delicious. Ooh. Fantastic. you know what so nice little crispy like little yeah yeah I did um you know it's crazy I know you probably ain't into but like um kale if you cook kale in an air fat bro it's like the it gives this crispy like oh my god you can season it it's like really fucking good though kale's dope you know

you know what else I've been doing I've just started to drink coffee uh like consistently it's now a ritual every morning and I just found A crispy, crispy cream? Billy, I'm curious to know. Since you referred to as a ritual, I'm going to just do a quick dive inside Billy's head real quick. Who online told you that like it was evolutionary advantageous to like wake up with a hot drink of coffee in the morning and how like it's spiking some sort of internal metabolic reaction? Because I know that that's there's something. When you use the word ritual, I know that there's something behind that.

No, I actually just like, I got a coffee maker. for Christmas and I just was like well I might as well use it so I got some Stella Blue which was free cake cups in the office and I just drank some coffee I realized this is actually a lot like for days I'm either working out later in the day or I'm not drinking pre-workout the second I wake up or I'm just running in the morning like it's such a nice buzz and what coffee yeah yeah duh I know I just used to drink pre-workout in the morning or tea I don't know. So I just started trying it and I started liking it. And then I found a crispy cream place on my way home to pick up some crispy cream. And I just get a dozen crispy cream donuts. I put them in my fridge. And then I put the one crispy cream donut a day in my air fryer and I drink coffee with the crispy cream donut. It is the, it is like fucking like literally cures like makes you want to wake up. Billy just turned 46, like how Big T says he can't wait to be 46, Billy got there before

him in this exact moment in time. Coffee's great. I drew up he came too soon. Have you not turned 46 yet? No, I'm waiting patiently. I know. I'm just saying Billy got there before. Yeah, I know. You don't want to, you don't want to enjoy the fruits of being 47 at 25. That defeats the purpose. You better, you got to start getting on kids. Then if you, you said you wanted to be at a high school football game, right? Yeah, so like... You can have a step on it. 32.

What's that math? It would be 30, right? 30, right? 30, they would be 16. Yeah. Yeah, 30. You start thinking about it. You start putting it in a little oven.

We'll be fine. That's six years from now. I'm just saying, you know, just start thinking about it. Sometimes I forget how young Big T is. Me too. Yeah. I'll be 26.

in a little bit, though. That ain't that young. What's your birthday, guy? May. Me and him are almost birthday twins. You remember Big T. didn't want anybody knowing when his birthday was? Yeah. He's come a long way. He's come a long way. Yeah.

Sometime in May. Also, we should say, speaking of birthdays, happy birthday to Billy. Happy early birthday. It's on Friday. It's Billy's birthday tomorrow. If you're listening to this Thursday, it's Billy's birthday tomorrow.

So tell Billy, happy birthday he's 25 now no 24 24 now sorry my bad 25's halfway to 30 that's halfway through your 20s and turning 24 it scares the show me because I'm about to be halfway through my 20s and I literally still feel 18 yeah I know I feel that sometimes too isn't it you always feel 10 years younger than you are yeah I feel like I'm about that I feel like I'm 30 right now so that's But I'm 37, almost 38. That's crazy. Yeah, how do you feel like you are, Aaron?

That's an interesting question, man, because, you know, I see the number and I'm like, I don't feel like that. But then I see other 36 rolls, and I'm like, I don't look like that. And so it's like a weird, I don't know, like, when you see like, when you watch naked and afraid or something like that, you'll see the 36 year olds on that. I was like, my nigga looks 50. Like, why do you look so weathered? I don't understand.

yeah i mean i don't know i feel young and spry man i guess like i can do pretty much everything i have done except for at the same level you know training every day but i feel good man i don't really have too much but i don't feel to say about 31 32 right you big t i mean i i i don't feel necessarily but like if i if i went back and i was like a sophomore in college right I would kill it. Like I would destroy being 19, you know? Would you drink if you had to go back again? No, I don't drink that much now.

I'm just not like, I just don't not. So how would you kill it? I would just, I would just like, I'd be like, yeah, I got this shit. Like, I would own it. What would you do? I don't know. But I just know that if I was 19, I would be like, this is my element right now. I would go back to college

I'd have a future podcaster shirt that I would wear and people would be like damn that guy's going to be cool also what's a podcast what's a podcast honestly if I went back to freshman year of high school knowing everything I know now I think I could be in the NFL I know that sounds what would you do I would train differently

I would concentrate on different things I'd concentrate more on technique and schematic stuff and I think it could be the NFL or at least D-1 Yeah, you could have gone to Rutgers Yeah, I mean, it's just I would have played out a couple things differently

I see You went to Rutgers You could, yeah I was going to say though I see Aryan and PFT and I'm like y'all are pretty young dudes And then I think about the fact that y'all were in college in 2004

What? And I'm like that's We were in kindergarten That's a long time ago. That was like the first year I remember. And even to me, 2004 doesn't sound like it was as long ago as it was. No, 2004 was, it wasn't that long ago. 2004 was, the world was pretty much the same.

It was 20 years ago. No, the world was almost exactly the same as it is now. You just didn't have iPhones. That's the only difference. Wack. Everyone liked each other. No, they did. That's not true at all.

They didn't. You just didn't know how much you hated other people because you weren't online all the time. Yeah, you weren't exposed to everyone's thoughts all at the same time. But there was still message boards. So like everything that you see on Twitter right now is just a big, it's the next evolution of message board culture. None of this is new. Like the Elon Musk saga, all that stuff. Like this has all happened before.

The complaining about being banned and shadow band, this is just what happens when you get an online. community together. So even though we didn't have Twitter back then, this is exactly what happened in like the mid-2000s, just on like very like siloed instances. So it would be, you know, dedicated to certain points of interest as opposed to one giant site that everybody used. Huh. But not that much different. The world was pretty much the same. Speaking of. Yeah. 2004 was the first like time I gained consciousness. Consciousness. what the year was.

I remember that specifically. I think that was your first memory. I just remember, I very vividly remember the Christmas of 04. So almost 05. Yeah. Did you get anything good? I don't remember.

I don't remember the presents. I just remember the people, the place, Christmas we were I think we went to the Cotton Bowl that year yeah yeah I went to the Cotton Bowl

so Dallas Texas I believe we were yeah he was in Dallas Who was that against Texas A&M I was red shirt and though so I was chiller 138 to 7 Yeah

Nice Remember 04 Joe Gibbs came back That was huge So what's crazy is like Billy's remembrance of Joe Gibbs, the coach, is almost identical to my remembrance of Joe Gibbs, the coach, his original first time around.

How crazy is that? Whoa. Yeah. I was... Say that one more time? So Joe Gibbs was a coach of the Washington Redskins until 1992, 93, I believe. So I remember him being the coach from the point where I was like five until the point where I was like eight or nine,

whenever the case may be when he left. And then he came back in 2004. And so Billy would know Joe Gibbs as an NFL coach from like 2004 to 2007, just how I knew him as a coach the first time around from like 1989 when I could first start to remember until like 1992. Oh, you know what else I remember from 2004? The ALCS.

Okay. I very vividly remember Aaron Boone No, no, I remember just That was 2003 I remember my father yelling about the Yankees in 2004 Another poor memory

You remember what happened, the breakdown 2004, was that to come back? Yeah, that's when the Red Sox came back in the Yankees Yeah, that was a great series I was at game seven in New York I was in like down the first baseline is cool.

What are you doing there? I was being a bandwagon Red Sox fan at the time. Nice. You couldn't help but be a bandwagon. It was a different world back in 2004, Billy. Like, people weren't sick of Boston sports fans at all. They were like the lovable losers. So that's how long ago.

Now when you say it that way, like that's the best way to think about how long ago 2004 actually was. Like Boston, they were underdogs in just about every sport. Yeah, they were pretty good in football. But they weren't like, they weren't the Patriots that we know. now. So they hadn't won that, they hadn't won the World Series in like, what, 93 years, however one it was. 1918 used to still get, uh, get chanted at games. Oh yeah, yeah. There was a dude that was running around the concourse in Yankee Stadium dressed up as Babe Ruth, but a ghost, just putting a curse on everybody. That rocks. And so we got, my brother and I went to that game. We got there

right after Johnny Damon, I believe he had a lead-off home run in game seven. And then it was just Whomping. Huh. Crazy times. Wow. Early 2000s are wild. They're pretty fun, honestly. I like the early 2000s a lot.

Like, social media just started. You had like a little sprinkle of Facebook here and there. Digital cameras were a thing. Myspace was popular. Yeah, MySpace was hot. Let's get MySpace time on the podcast. That would be lit. Special

He chimed in with that whole Elon Mustang I think on Twitter he did I mean Myspace Tom I don't know anything about the guy personally but I feel like

if I went through the same thing he did where you sell you sell an idea for like 500 500 million bucks you just never hear from that person again

that's the way he did it he did it correctly he just got his bread and just started traveling the globe that's fire yeah we can cut this if you don't want to but we not going to say who it is but we have a very cool

guess next week yes we do have a very cool guest next week let's keep this part in yeah but uh little we won't we won't say the person's name it's not my space tom i'm so excited i'm so excited it's definitely not my space tom but um who is my space like a legend what compels billy to say shit like that i don't know so excited that I have to be. What the fuck? I don't know. How to get inside that kid's head.

Yeah. What compels Billy to say shit that he says like every single day? It's just classic football, man. So we're going to get to the discussion about the cult nexium, which is such a tough thing to pronounce. Every time I see it, I just don't, I forget how to pronounce it. But it's called nexium. We're going to talk about it a little bit. But there was one thing.

Hang on. What was I going to? I think I've got COVID. brain guys. I've got COVID brain. I swear to God, yes, yesterday. I couldn't remember who Sean McVeigh was. What? Yeah. I was, I was like trying to think. I was like, who's the coach of the Rams? And I couldn't think of his name. It took me like five minutes to think of Sean McVeigh's name. That shit, that shit just got me. I was like, who the fucking shock me? I was thinking that the New Orleans Saints, Sean Payton. I was thinking of him when you said that. But

like that's that's concerning to me because like it's i know sean mcfay is the coached the rams i talk about sean mcvay multiple times a week it's like a a pretty common thing that i'll discuss so that's how i know that covid's real that and also um i just forgot entirely what i was going to say about uh about the sex cult guys yeah could be oh yeah i remember what i was going to say now so uh somebody we're talking about billy who just got up to go to the back bathroom who by the way somebody just is back now wow was the fastest how did you even have time to walk to the bathroom and back here he ran i bet you he sprinted did you run no i just was brief you're nice with it yeah uh so billy was trying to book a guest for today's show which

i really appreciate i appreciate the grind billy's always looking to make the show better and the guy that he was going to interview was going to be like a guy that worked at mail store that was close by to this cult, which I appreciate, I appreciate the idea, but Billy, it took you a very long time to be able to articulate where this person worked and what he did and what his relationship was to the cult. Did you just not want to admit that he just worked at UPS? Yeah, but from what he said, he has a lot of information. Yeah, but if he has that information, it was obtained illegally. Yeah, but if we just have him on anonymously and just say it's a parody, I think we'd be fine legally.

If we say this guy's lying, we're good. That's actually, that will be our disclaimer for next week's show as well. Honestly, do not, do not believe. Let's pull this guy up. Like, see what he has to say. And if it's like crazy and like, it's just a troll, just delete it.

I'm down to do that. Honestly, what are we have to lose? This isn't live. Like, come on. Let's let Bill Cook. all right fine we're gonna let billy cook bill you're gonna you're gonna had this interview up okay why the fuck did you let him cook billy cooking and it's the it's the beans and yeah pop tarts you remember you remember this bfd you remember that um radio flyer the the wagon yeah you know i don't know if you remember but they ordered that um they ordered that monster stew or whatever

and when they're in the kitchen and that's one of the reasons why it's step-debeat the shit out of him because they had that monster stew and they cooked it and this shit food splattered like everywhere. Yep. I, uh, have you guys seen the NyQuil chicken? I'm trying to, I'm trying to force that to make a comeback. I blogged the NyQuil chicken when it happened. It was so gross.

Yeah. Nobody was actually cooking it. It actually was trending on TikTok. There's multiple people doing it. Right. But I'm saying like people were doing it as a joke. It wasn't, they were doing it as like a look, look at this cool new thing that Zoomers are doing and then a bunch of boomers got upset about it because they didn't know that the zoomers

were just joking it was trending right around last christmas when everybody got sick i think yeah when everyone got hit yeah i'm going to bring it back you want to bring this guy on he's he's here where's he sure bill you're you're leading this interview okay so we're going to get to today's topic uh the nexium cult i saw the documentary seduities to do I saw the first three episodes that are four. The first three episodes are fantastic. Very, very interesting. So I'm just a sucker for Colts in general.

So I really enjoy it. You can also watch the Vow. I think that's the HBO one. So Colts are kind of hot in the streets right now. Like cult documentaries, there have been a bunch of good ones that have come out the last couple years. What's hotter in the documentary streets?

Cults are true crime. I guess Colts are. kind of true crime but but like murders no i think right now it's true crime because of the idaho i think it's true crime yeah well not not just that like i've i've seen a whole bunch they have like the jones on netflix that i always watch they have like all kinds of different things like like they had this one called uh i i think i murdered somebody or something like that or i'm a killer i'm a killer there you go and it's like each episode is a different person yeah and so and then you You got the Jeffrey Dahmer shit that pops off.

Like, killing is interesting. I'm totally blanking. Did we go over some of the new Idaho facts that came out? No. I don't think so. Since we did the episode? I don't think so. Well, back to next.

I don't want to derail next to you. But a lot of stuff came out. We can save that. We can save the Idaho talk. For next. But the nexium thing, let's get to it. Because I'll be honest. I'm starting to get co.

COVID brain. Bill, you missed it. I was telling everybody else that I forgot Sean Payton's name yesterday. No, you just fucked up again. Oh, Sean McVeigh's name. You sure did, didn't you? I mean, to be fair. To be fair, to be fair, I said Sean. You brought up Sean Payton. But I mean, you did clearly. But I was trying to think of who the coach was for the Los Angeles Rams yesterday. And I couldn't. It took me like five minutes. So it's a real thing. So I'm trying to get this out of the way. I might have to duck out in a little bit, actually, because my stomach is not feeling great right now.

But let's talk about it. Let's talk about nexium. Nexium, it was a cult. It was founded by Keith Reneere. Am I saying that right? Keith Reneer. I think it's Reneer. Keith Reneery.

Reneery. Grade A creep. Grade A creep. Yeah, he's an all-time, all-time creep. So he is a great case for abolishing the gifted intelligence. program in elementary schools across the country because like he was told when he was a young kid that he was special and that he was gifted and so then he just he developed a Jesus complex out of that where he actually did believe that he was better than everybody else and so he got

into sales initially right off the bat but he it wasn't just sales he got into like multi-level marketing stuff the fun and the funniest thing was when he was drawing on the on the whiteboard he was literally drawing pyramids it was fucking uh michael scott in the office drawing yeah it was literally he was literally drawing a pyramid scheme on the whiteboard it was hilarious i mean let me let me let me back about you real quick pf to you well let me let me just ask you like what is your vendaram between people who are gifted and then like really pieces really big pieces of shit because in order to start cults like you have to be charismatic you have to be witty you have to be smart like there's no idiots really doing it right

so it's like he was talented and he was gifted he's just a piece of shit did you agree I would agree with that I think it's more along the lines of if you get labeled gifted and talented you you should also get punched in the face every now and again just so that you don't just so you check that ego a little bit this This is another example. So get the non-talent people, non-talented kids put them on a roll call. Hey, we got some talented kids over here. Free reign.

Go ahead and punch them whatever you need. Yeah, exactly. Like, okay, we'll put you in a gifted and talented program where we'll give you higher level classes. But I do think that there's a danger that a lot of kids get put in those classes. And they think that they're entitled to being special for the rest of their lives. And so what there should be, there should be a program with a non-gifted kids get to punch one gifted kid in the face every, like, semester.

And so then that way, the gifted kids know, like, hey, don't, don't fuck with the masses. You know, honestly, this goes right back to the ideology that the nerds were always actually the bad guys in all these movies, like stuffing them into lockers and stuff. There was a real reason for that. The only thing that was stopping these, like, kids from, like, becoming Sam Bankman Freed and robbing the whole world was dudes bullying them. So, like, Hmm.

Yeah. If there had been a football camp that took place next door to nexium and they like intermingled every now and again, that would have kept Keith in more check, I think. You would have been slapped a few times. No, but Keith probably literally think about it, dudes wouldn't fuck with him. Like his whole inner circle were like women. So like dudes didn't fuck with him. So he just tried to take advantage of women. All dudes knew he's full of shit.

And, like, if he was in that, if there was a football, like, let's say the Houston Texans was right next to Nexium, they'd be probably stealing all the chicks and saving them. I don't think it's the own you think it is, though, really. Dudes were too smart to sniff out as bullshit, but women fell for it. Like, I don't think that's the only thing it is, man. No, I'm just saying, like, I think guys are, huh. I think guys. The only people who want to hang out with this dude was a horde of women. Yeah, but I feel like dudes can figure out if a guy's a creep faster than, because we've been around more creeps.

I don't know. This is the bad thing. I think you ask, you're asking off women, Billy, that most women get creep vibes pretty easily. Like, they've got a good creep detector. Well, I got creep vibes from this guy the second he got on screen. I didn't even know who he was before we watched this documentary. Yeah, but you also knew going into it, he was in jail for being a sex cult leader. I actually had no idea about this nexium case before going in.

So he was told when he was a kid, I think his dad told him that he was superior to everybody else. Yeah. And so then he thought that he was like a god overnight. And then he got into multi-level marketing stuff, which there's so much crossover. Basically, the entire company was a pyramid scheme. It was multi-level marketing. But there's so much crossover. If any of you out there have ever worked in a multi-level marketing scheme or you've known a friend, that's gotten drawn into an MLM it's they're astounding similarities

you want to talk about like the Venn diagram the Venn diagrams between Colts and multi-level marketing programs there's a big big overlap in the middle and like Amway all those companies that started to get big in like the 1990s what's the makeup one

oh um Mary Kay is that it I think Mary Kay's MLM There's a lot of I don't know but yeah Arbon I'll think of it later

I knew somebody who did it Yeah I mean It's a big one The pink car I like to think that I can spot A friend of mine that's getting drawn Into an MLM deal on On Facebook like a mile away

I can tell when the post Start to change Like somebody that I knew back in high school I'm like oh I see what's going on here They're working for Beachbody It's like They start to like change entirely their their public persona but um this dude was really into multi-level marketing stuff

and then he uh he decided like why do i have to sell a product why can't the product just be like a curriculum that i make up all the time and then also yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna have sex with a lot of people but he he called himself vanguard which is far like that's a pretty lame name i think i didn't like that name vanguard States run of this? That's a pretty cool name. I don't know what was it. Vanguard?

Yeah, I kind of like that name. Vanguard accounts. What is a Vanguard? You know, yeah, you look up the definition of Vanguard, and you'll probably like it then. Isn't it a Call of Duty thing? It doesn't come from the Van Garian Guard who like guarded the Eastern Roman Empire

and they were all Vikings? Vanguard. I think Avon is the company I was thinking. That is an MLM as well. A vanguard is a group of people leading the way in new developments or idea. Guard from before plus. It's also like the front line. It's also like the front line.

What's it? A forefront of action or movement. Okay, so it doesn't have anything to do with the vangarian guard. Yeah, I don't know. But it's like the front line. Like, yeah, leading the pack. But like the first. the first line of defense.

I think it's a cool name. I think he was saying that he was like, he was like protecting everybody in the cult and he was the vanguard or whatever. But he was like, he was the father. And he set up this series of workshops. And the entire premise of the series of workshops would be for people to go to improve themselves.

And that could be anything. That's what's so like brilliant about it is everybody, if you ask them and you like pry deep down inside, you can find that somebody there's something that somebody's not happy with in their life whether it's like anxiety about something or if it's like a fear of flying it doesn't matter somebody has something that they'd like to improve so this guy's like my curriculum can cure whatever it is that you feel fucked up about and so then you would get them to go to his little seminars and uh they're very intense so they would like draw you they would make you sit up in front of the

entire crowd and you'd have to talk about like your deepest biggest biggest insecurities your fears your flaws and they would tell you just like let go of all your inhibitions don't try to to prevent your mind from going to an uncomfortable place get weird with it and then they would get you really emotional and then they would break you down and then somebody would try to build you up a little bit and then the only way that you can continue improving yourself is if you were to come to next month's course, which is like $2,000. And if you don't come to next month's course, then everyone's going to hate you. You're not going to have this built-in group of friends that you thought that you had at this

seminar. So really, it preyed on people with, like, deep vulnerabilities and insecurities. It's like, it's genius and its simplicity, how it got started. That's actually why a lot of these coats. And they follow, like, the same kind of blueprint is a lot of the stuff that they do, like, takes its page out of, like, you know, psychology books, like, where if you want to address, like, trauma or pain that you have, like, you have to hit it face on and, and dive into it and really look at yourself and stuff like that. And that's what they're doing, right? They're just,

they're teaching you how to, like, almost self-soothe or not self-sooth, but kind of look inside of yourself and address the issues rather than hiding from them. And like, and so when you do that, like you said, they feel vulnerable in front of other people, which can add an element of like this is a family unit this is they care about me you know and then they build you up and so it's like kind of it's like really it's really it's really brilliant stuff and then they draw you in and then bam fucking leader the separation of family and friends is something that is they they kept talking about that and it was kind of crazy how they did it uh to their example playing on her name yeah i um yeah yeah

Yeah, with India. Yeah. So I talked about the time that I went to the landmark forum on this show. This, it was essentially the same thing as what this Rainier guy was doing. There was no sex stuff there. But my boss made me go to one of these like self-help seminars back when I was probably 25, 26 years old. And I was like, this thing is the biggest crock of shit ever. They made me sit in a hotel like lobby, not a lobby, but like, you know, the little like,

ballrooms they have off the sides of meeting rooms there were probably like 50 people in there maybe 100 and they gave us most uncomfortable chairs in the world they kept cranking the temperature so they would turn it real low like they would put it like 60 degrees and then they would turn it super high up to like 85 degrees because they wanted to keep everybody uncomfortable in the room and it would start at like 8 a.m and it would end at like 9 p.m. and you weren't allowed to talk to your family while you were there. So it was like the same principle exactly. And they didn't watch you talk to your family. And they would tell you as you're going through these like little breakout groups that they have, like don't listen to that voice in your head that's telling you

that this is uncomfortable or that you shouldn't be here because that's the person that has gotten yourself into this mess to begin with. So they do a very good job of like trying to disarm your critical thinking in a situation like this. And it's easy for people to fall into, especially if you're like emotionally vulnerable. They said that this is like getting 10 years of therapy in 10 minutes, which by the way is bullshit. That's not true. But that's what they would, that's the level of like intensity of the emotions they would

bring out in people. But isolating people and keeping them uncomfortable, keeping them away from friends and family that would ask them questions like, uh, why are you doing this? Or like, what's in it for you? This doesn't seem like a good use of your time. they don't want anybody asking any sort of critical questions. So, yeah, they isolate you and they make it so that your only validation can come from that group and by taking, like, future courses with that group.

And so this is the scary part of it. Like, when you go, like, you know, because I've had some family members who have spent, like, a lot of time and, like, therapy, right? And so, one so much so is, like, they was at a, like, what they call, like, a ranch for, like, a month, right? And it's, it's, like, really, it's, like, a nice area. And it's with counselors and therapists and you sit there and you address all your problems. And they do the same thing. They isolate you. They take your phone away, you know, all your vices and they make you sit with everything.

And so it has like similarly eerily, eerie elements to it, right? But obviously not as well intended. And I think that's the scary part is like to an untrained or somebody vulnerable, it looks like that they're getting positive benefits from it. And so that's why they continue to go back and say this is the only way to do it. They also had like these little modules that they would break down into, like different seminars they would do. So there would be some that were just for women, some that were for men, some to address like certain things, some to address your like career, some to address your personal life. And then they had one special seminar that was the, we're not a cult module that you could take. Where it was if you had any misgivings about nexium, don't worry about that.

entire curriculum where they just explain to you why they're actually not a cult, which that's red flag number one. If somebody's like, hey, we're not a cult, then like Texas A&M, if they have to like convince you that it's not a cult, chances are you're looking a cult there. Having to answer the question says more than what the answer is. I would agree. Also, and Big T, would you also agree that Texas A&M gives off a lot of nexium vibes. Oh, yeah. Texas A&M and Clemson, both cults. Go on about Clemson. I mean, they have a false profit leading them.

It's true. By the way, Albo? Oh, yeah. There is an insane. But no, Texas A&M real cult, like actual very cultish vibes. By the way, there is an insane amount of creeps that come from like around Brooklyn. Epstein, Weinstein, just north of Brooklyn, Reneerie, and I bet there's like all, I think Woody Allen, who also got in trouble for some pedophilia stuff, like they're all from Brooklyn. Yeah, Brooklyn's also like one of the ten,

one of the ten biggest cities in the entire country. I'm just saying, what the fuck's going on in Brooklyn? This is the opposite of the argument you made about pit bulls. Yeah, I know. But I'm just, I only has one logic, though. He's only one. No, I'm just saying, like, Reneerie, well, that's geographic. I mean, like, when they're like, where's Reneerie from?

And then it's like Brooklyn, I'm like, what the fuck? The logic would be, Billy, the logic would be, you'd have to connect those two. Make it make sense. I would say, Ohio is up there too. We found a lot of serial killers from Ohio. Well, a lot of sex, a lot of sex. We need sex people, Brooklyn. Yep.

What was Brooklyn's Google or Pornhub search? Yeah. Or did they just do New York City as a whole? They just in New York State. Oh, okay, okay. What did they do about Burrow? Let me see.

Yeah. So they said that on the last day of these seminars, they would put them in these EM modules and that's when they'd really break people down, like your first time there. That's when they'd get you and have you do like a one-on-one hyper. personal conversation in front of everybody and that's when they said like this is when your life

will change on this last day you'll experience a breakthrough and what they're doing is that they were just like suggesting to people that they're going to feel better they were just telling them like everybody feels better on the last day you're going to have a moment where it's going to be great and then people sit down and they go through it and they think that they've had this like breakthrough moment they told me I remember when I did this this seminar they told me that everybody pops on day three you pop you things will just change in your break rain like a bubble and instantly you'll be different. And then they made the entire room go quiet and close their eyes for like 10 minutes. No one was allowed to talk. And then one by one people

just started laughing in the room. And I was like, what the fuck is going on right now? Why is everybody laughing? And then the leader of the organization was like, this is everybody popping and breaking through and having their landmark experience. I swear to God, all these self-help things are the exact same they are like multi-level marketing just the power of suggestion and most of them stop there most of them just like drain your money and uh and turn you into a weirdo but they don't go to the next step that that next him did not saying that it's good like any of these self-help things are good but um they don't go to that next step they also talked about what's his name tony robbins a little bit do you guys know anyone that's been to tony robin seminar

Yep. No, but he's getting big on TikTok. He's kind of the same thing. He's reinventing himself. He's going to be, he's going to have packed out stadiums soon. I'm sure he will. But he's kind of the same thing. Like people spend thousands of dollars every year to go to like more Tony Robbins seminars because the only thing that can fix whatever's wrong in your life is by giving Tony Robbins more money and going to another one of his seminars. I had a friend that went there or that was working at a hotel that he was doing a seminar at like a couple years ago

and my friend caught like five different people jacking each other off at the Tony Robbins seminars in various parts of the hotel. Swear to God. Wait, I just got distracted researching Brooklyn cult leaders because it's actually a couple. What? Yeah, at the Tony Robbins seminar.

Everyone in the hotel? Yeah, everyone jacks each other off. In like the lobbies out in the gardens by the pool. They were just jacking each other off. What are you talking? Girl on guy, guy on guy. I don't know. In the breakout parts, we're like, they were not in the actual seminar.

They would get a break for lunch. And then next thing you know, there'd be just a dude jack another dude off out in the lobby. You went to this? No, Bill. I didn't go to it. My friend works at the hotel that this seminar is at every single year. And she's like every year, there are people that jack each other off at this. It's intense, man.

whoa i don't i know i think about going billy no i mean like i guess in different ways people jack each other off at all types of conventions like yeah to yeah like you're gonna go you're gonna go to a seminar that's pretty like you i should get something out of it like hey you're really great for field like do seminars work otherwise like do you really like do you really like leave a seminar like enlightened i don't i've never been i'm like there were so many people that left my seminar enlightened and they were like trying to sell their parents to come trying to get their like brothers to come it was it was honestly one of the more bizarre experiences in my life like i i see i've been to what these first people like now i'm not talking

about like the das level but like the nexium the lower level like i've seen that firsthand and people are just they're they're willing to just turn off all critical thinking and make themselves feel like they're improving themselves just by spending money. Like, it's a very powerful drug. That's what I'm going to say. Very powerful drug. The men in black quote, men in black quote.

Person is smart. People are dumb. So Reneer had all these different seminars that he would put you through. Honestly, the summer camps look fun. I wish they had like adult summer camps. It was just his birthday party. That's what this.

Yeah, that's what this was. It was. They had archery. They had, like, swimming. It was summer camp. Damn. We should throw a macadocusing summer camp. But just like, actually, no cult, just fun. Yeah, just fun. I upstate New York is a perfect place to do it. I feel like that's where every sleepaway camp in America is located. Like, we, there could be like, uh, multiple flag football games going on basketball like ultimate free of me play the championship game

against the camp from across the lake iron man you want to have PE class yeah I miss PE class a lot I do I know I believe that for sure yeah like the the rec leagues just don't squishy dodge balls yeah dodgeball would be fun but with the OG

like kickball dodge balls that have better grip the big red Jones yeah Those are fun I've never I've never gotten to play with those They had the squishy bullshit For us by the time we were in school

Oh I thought you just meant Like you could never get on The field I thought that's what that No I was I was elite Dodgeball Okay

I was a monster Oh We were talking about Dodgeball I thought Dodgeball I thought I thought you were a kick Oh

Dodgeball is so fun Yeah okay It would let you play Dodgeball with the kickballs With with those types of balls that have like that you know that like corrugated pattern

that was all the rubber balls those types of balls those were the best dodge balls but then they got they bounce like a baller yeah yeah and if you get hit your face is red did you have rules where no head head never got hit in the what no no I hit

I get hit I used to like I don't know head shots happened but we went for the head oh I grew up in a soft area I went I went for the head It wasn't legal

I didn't want like I did go for people's heads And then I'd get kicked out of the game And it was it was gender neutral Girls could get it You better you ever had them girls They were just kind of sit And they would just sit there like this And like that prime

We would go out Yeah We wouldn't I actually have a very distinct memory Of hitting someone with the glasses on And they cut their face I bet I bet you laugh so hard at that

No I got so much trouble He ran up to him called him four eyes. Yeah. No, it's just flashbacks. Nerd. Power rank

the best PE-specific piece of equipment that you guys used to use back in elementary school. Oh, that's so easy. Okay. Parachute, number one.

The giant parachute? Getting under the parachute was the sickest day of all time. What's pretty cool? And number two, the little scooters. That's my kid. Yeah.

The little piece of plastic with the handles on each side. The knee boards, right? Were they called knee boards? You'd run over your fingers. Just cones. Just cones. Just those little, the circular cones. Really, Billy.

It's a bad thing. What would you do? Gator skin ball was still on the board and you took cones. So many things on the board. I'm just hitting the install. We're not power ranking them. We're just talking about stuff. You picked a punter and second around.

We are power raking him. I said power rank PE equipment. He took Who was the dog shit kicker that the Bucks drafted? Okay, well I got from Florida State. I had the rubber balls. I brought the rubber balls up. Those were sick. Okay. So the ones

that you'd play four square with. I'm gonna do not the not an equipment but an event. Y'all remember the presidential things? The presidential test. Those were fun, man. Those were fun, man those are fun i got it lit were you presidential

i'm okay i was top of the tops whatever i don't remember because i don't remember there was red and blue but i remember i was presidential was blue that was first and then national was red that was second i but the people that were really good athletes sometimes wouldn't win

presidential because like the v-sit would fuck with a lot of people stretching yeah the stretching yeah that was BS some people were growing some people be you never got presidential still scarred No, but some people were, like, growing. It was a deep.

He was D3. Of course he didn't. Wait, Billy, just a second to go back there, said that after elementary school, he could have made the NFL, but you couldn't even make presidential. No, I said freshman in high school, if I went back now and knew what I knew now. I bet you couldn't even do enough pull-ups. I did 25. I did 25.

Pull-ups? Yeah, bitch. What? Matt, you did 25 pull-ups? Yeah, I was a beast. Right. That's kind of lit Actually that's kind of crazy

Yeah I had the grade I had the grade record for my presidential test For pull ups and chinups Fuck with me Does it? Whoa Does it still stand? No, I can't do it anymore No

I was a gymnast though I had to do all that all the time Oh word Yeah but yeah no I had 25 pullups and chinups You should get at CrossFit I'm into Pilates right now I'm being a girl right now

CrossFit People kind of scare me 25 pull-ups is actually like insane. Yeah. I was like a little nine-year-old just to whip them out. Whoa. I also want to give a shout out to capture the flag. Yes.

That was my game as well. The chains, the chains where you hold hands and try to, from the jail to get touched. I don't recall doing that. Is it Red Rover? No, Capture the Flag where you had the two like hockey sticks and a column. I was talking about what Billy was talking about. No, no. He's talking about a maneuver in Capture the Flag.

Yeah, you'd have the safe zone, and then you'd have the jail. And if you had enough people in jail in the safe zone, you could make two chains and then touch each other. And then that would be freeing the people from the jail. And then it would cause a total crazy, like, storming of the flag. And they wouldn't be able to tag everybody. Has Capture the Flag been canceled yet for having jail? I'm researching. I'm sure you can still play it

What else is there in elementary school Did you guys play the snowball fight? Were you just I don't know Snowball fight? You know you would put up you would put up cones Billy's favorite and then put yoga mats on either side of them To perform

Like What is it when you're in the Oh like a fort? Like a barricade Like a barricade And then you would hide behind it And you would It was kind of like dodgeball

oh you would hide behind the snowball or the snow port they know they'd use those like pads and they'd fold them sideways you know we would do cones and yoga mats and set it up like the pads that you do the sit-ups on yeah what's you guys just pete teacher name I feel like all peteers names had a cool name Chris O'Cleary shout out see you know what I'm saying all P teachers got dope names Mrs. Straw Mrs. Straw my guy my guy's name was Mr. Swazzo Mr. Doherty

Mr. Doherty Mr. Doherty yeah that's a good P.E teacher name I two they were like co-teachers and their names were Mrs. Stock and Mrs. Bond

No way Come on, come on, bro yeah Ain't no way I swear, I swear I swear. I'm fucking ridiculous I googled

I googled Chris O'Cleary and found out that she is in the professional disc golf association now. That's a total gym teacher move. And it says it says Atlanta so I'm sure this is her career wins 16. Wow. So

that out's pretty good. Career earning $7,100. Wow. That's not bad. That's got to put it in the top 1% of disc golfers. Yeah. Her next event is Atlanta's hustle ice in my chains

23 You gotta go to one of her events Big T Seems like she's pretty good I just I just Google Mine He's Assistant Principal

Principal now at a high school He'd have moved up I'm friends with my on Facebook Rod Swazzo Shout out to you my dad Pension Um I

Guys, I think I had to go throw up. Okay. Okay, well, you're more than welcome to come back every you puke. All right, so proceed with the nexium shit. Bye. Bye. I hope he comes back. That was abrupt.

He's not coming back, really. I don't, but what the hell? Just puk and rally. Is puking, like, a COVID symptom? I'm sure he's. He's just, like, generally ill. It's just sick. Like, I have a pizza, and I don't, I'm trying to wrap it up.

There's a pizza right here. He got cold. I'm getting hungry, too. What kind of pizza? I get, like, the meat lover, so I get Italian sausage, ground beef, and pepperoni on it. Then I like mushrooms and olives, too. Is it like a frozen pizza or from somewhere? No, no, that's good.

It's M-O-D. I've never heard of that. Oh, I've heard of that. It's like, it's like, it's like, because the best pizza. No, no, no, no. His is, um. Blaze, but it's. Isn't it the same idea?

It's kind of the same idea. Yeah, it's like thin slice. It's like the best you can get like from East Coast pizza. It's like it's a good substitute, but it's not the same. That's like the one thing. Like when I go to New York, I always divulge. You do. I've noticed that.

I just walk down the street and any pizza shop does it. And every pizza shop, I'm going to keep it a ban. Every, every pizza shop I get recommended to. It's just exactly like the other pizza shop. Like it's just, they're all good, but it's just like, They were like, man, you need to go to Prince's on, blah, blah, blah. And I went and saying, okay, it's cool. Like, it's way better than all the pizza.

Did you get the, like, big square from Prince Street? No, I got a regular pizza. Oh, well, then we'll get you the real Prince Street pizza. Like, a couple weeks. See, I'm, let's do it. They got a gigantic, spicy pepperoni square slice. And it's elite. Is it deep, is it a deep dish?

Kind of. It's a Sicilian. It's a Sicilian. we'll get it anyway yeah I'm with it I like grandma grandma's the best it's just like

it's like a thinner Sicilian and it's like pan pizza it's good I had a good square slice the other day I'll tell you like I'll let you guys know what it was back to Reneery he's creep you just kept talking about

doing bad stuff to babies really fucked up really fucked up he prayed on women way more than I thought before watching the documentary There was, it was mostly women that were victims. I didn't realize how women focused it was coming from a male leader. Yeah.

Like Jane, the J-Ness, Janess. Also, how much time in the day did he have to be, like, do, like, what do you think is his, like, start, like, his lineup, like, was? You know what I'm saying? No, I don't. Like, it almost seems like there was way too many, like. I don't want to sound insensitive, but it sounds like there wasn't enough time in the week to abuse as many people as he did.

It's kind of like crazy. It was a pyramid scheme. He had people doing it from, he was the top and he had all of his people doing it, like the sisters and the, what did they call her, the precinct? Not the precinct.

The second lady in command. But you know how there's the first level and then there's the second level? Yeah, they just had everyone going down. Yeah, but how many people were on the second level? It was like a hundred. His inner circle was only about five people.

It was the two sisters. I think Laura was her name, Salzman. Yeah, also was that lady the, yeah, the Salzman, was she like it? Was she? She was the basically the Jelaine Maxwell type. Yeah, but were they doing stuff? Nancy? I don't know if they were, I don't think they were doing stuff necessarily.

but they were complicit together. Yeah, weren't they like, yeah, they were like recruiting and stuff like that. Yeah. He was more focused on what it seems was praying on the weaker, younger individual rather than someone like her, if that makes sense. Yeah, but how is she complicit in this? Like, what was she getting out of it? Money. Money?

That's all? Money power. What's it? That's all? Money, power. um control the root of every yeah of every issue almost every evil act ever like 98% of all evil acts is because of and the most coveted thing on earth what was jeline maxwell getting out of helping epstein well she was getting off too sexually yeah with epstein and for a little bit no they were like

they were doing like some partner in crime stuff on people i'm sure the laura salzsman had filled her cup she jeez i'm sure she was fine she pled guilty to racketeering criminal conspiracy so she didn't do anything racketeering she pled guilty to a crime

right right but she was just a money money crime she wasn't like i'm sure they offered her a deal of you plead guilty on this and you won't we won't charge you with all the other things we can the branding for those you don't know Ranieri had a circle of women who were his inner circle who, you know, he would routinely

have sex with. And then under all those women, it was a pyramid scheme of sexual abuse. And those women would then go abuse other women by, you know, getting collateral, which was a lot of like nudes and confessions and false confessions that they could use to blackmail them. And they also branded a lot of them with cauterizing tools which is just so fucked that ended up being his initials that they didn't tell them. Jeez. Yeah

which is fucking crazy dog like why would you even want that? God branding people bro. Because you're in a cult and you don't get it. Andrew Tate's been tattooing. There are women who are tattooed with Andrew Tate's really? Yeah.

City girls down a thousand Where are I don't think that qualifies many I think they're in Romania I don't think they're allowed to leave Where they at with the adjutation Do you know, Billy? I haven't seen anything else

I thought they They extended his Detention for like 30 days And then they have to provide Something else within that time Something like that I'm not entirely sure From what I, from what I've, uh, I, so we're not blogging about it. Uh, so I'm off the blog.

Yeah, because, because we're not cool. Yeah. No, no, no, we're not allowed to, I've submitted so many Andrew tape blogs. They're, they're suppressing your voice. Well, it's just, it's, I understand. We're trying to get clicks here at this company. You should take pictures of the blogs and tweet them out as photos. Yeah. Undermine. I love it. Jack Mack did that one time. Which, blog did you do? I forget what it was. It was funny. But did he get in trouble for it?

I think Dave liked it. I think he thought it was funny. I forget what it. It may have been the day. I think there was snow. Oh, yeah. A bunch of people didn't show up. And Jack Mack wrote a blog about all the people who didn't come on the snow day.

And he trudged through snow to get there. And they didn't post it because they were like, we don't want to like, this is just like, going at people, and then Jack's like, fuck that. And so he just tweeted it out anyway. Well, the editors, the editors also didn't make it in the snow day. I think that was part of the, yeah. It was also COVID working from home was, but, uh, game, but it was more just to get clicks. Like Andrew Tate gets arrested.

I blogged that over like when he first got arrested. That would have gotten tons of clicks. Crazy. They're keeping you down, bro. No, it's just like, it's just, it just prevents me from getting to the top charts. Just top 20 stuff. Who is it? Name them.

Call them out. No, no, no. It's because they do, they, I don't, like, their job's hard. They're trying to do the right there. You're bitching out right now. I'm not bitching out. I'm on good terms with them right now, and I like getting my blogs posted. All right.

Don't. But, uh, yeah, I think Andrew Tate's literally running a similar scheme. Yeah. Duh. Yeah. From what's described. Should we sign up for Hustlers, you? Is it like one of those self-help things?

She'll get a discount now, huh? It's a self-help. Yeah, I wonder if they're running any specials. It's a self-help thing, and it literally talks about how you need to emotionally... What if they're running any specials? Like, he was committing fraud. I do, like... I'm enrolling.

How much is it? I think it was like $50 or something, wouldn't it? I'm looking at it. Well, the next thing himself was like five grand. You have to hit join now like eight times. I, like, the thing is a lot of the people, I think he was taking advantage of Andrew Tate are sex workers from Europe who have done other types of sex work. $50 a month, bro, that's stealing.

I'm putting my work email address so that if this, it's a bit. Yeah. Oh, you get, might be a write-off. Yeah. Are you really doing it? No. Actually, you know what? I'll fucking do it.

I'm on the page. Don't sign up to that shit, man. So what I heard, there's this dude online who all he does is like debunk frauds. So he was on, he was on that Logan Paul shit early. Even Logan Paul hit him and apologize because he was going to go after lawyers. But now he's like, okay, I'm just going to apologize for the shit that we were doing because it was wrong. And so he just he just outs fraudsters. I forget his name.

Really, really funny dude. But he did that shit. He did the adjutation. He signed up for Hustlers University. And it's basically like Basically you get a link to his Discord And you get a link to his Discord And it's just like a bunch of channels

Full of dudes that are like experts Quote unquote in whatever said field So it's like making money or whatever it gives me being So like it's just like He's like it's very low level like Basic shit about investing or something like that It's it's wild Are you saying it's like Billy's list

No At least at least at least At least he's engaging with his discord. You know, you're just leaving them out to dry. I had a couple of them hit me up. It was like, hey, man, what's up with your discord, man? Because we're about to leave Billy's. And he said, word on the street is they're about to commandeer it.

Yeah. There's a mutiny. Yeah. I'm with you. Hey, Billy's list. Let's do this shit. Yeah, they're cooping. I'm checking it right now.

Address your constituents. We're cooped. They're what now? It's cool. It's cool. It's cool. It's coo. Coupin.

Coo. But what if they're, what if they're, what is the act of committing a coup? Cooing. Cooing. I don't know if that's the verb, but that's the word you would. It should be. I doubt they add the P just because it's, uh, yeah, cooing. Committing a coup.

Yeah. Engaging in coup like behavior. All right. Do we have anything else on this, this nexium guy? He was a freak. 120 years in prison they hit him with the RICO Oh damn

With the RICO Rackettish is crazy Actually we should try to go after cults Should we just be cult busters Like if anyone knows You find one that hasn't been brought down yet Yeah if anyone knows what the next big nexium is We will go

Go crack that egg Well like I said it was Clemson But Tennessee took care of that Am I right? Already brought him down. Why do you say Davo is a cult? I understand Texas A&M. Y'all explain that to me, but I mean, I don't fuck with Dobbo.

I think he's a dweeb and this is a hypocrite. I mean, yeah, he's like the fakesst dude of all time and is like he thinks he's a preacher and is just like full of shit and gets these. And he just, he spews nonsense and I hate him. and why do you say why do you say Clemson fans are codes

or you just well they I mean they worship at the altar of Davo I mean they they've bought it hookline and sinker really

I'm sure they're nice people I'm sure they're great but they you know they got a little taste of winning from this guy who's full of shit

and now they've they've bought it I mean it's a lot what he had like two he got two don't he mm-hmm great football coach I was say it's not

At least he was Anyway Interesting Yeah Do we got a thing Is Maddie even Did Maddie Lee Yeah she's gone

It's the three amigos right now Hell yeah The three amigos This is what we do Baby Love it Love it So we don't got anything else

On us on us dude I didn't know I didn't think I didn't find him That interesting It's like once What you kind of see a cult They cover all the same

Like it's Scientology It's all this exact same They follow the same template And so it really wasn't that They target The same people it's just

it's kind of crazy that people don't realize do we have but we we did end up Billy's guy was legit we think so I

we're gonna put that here at the end he has a lot of a lot of interesting insight what do you get to get popped what if he gets popped because it is podcast listen we this guy came

on and voluntarily shared some information that is really interesting and I don't think it's I think it's fine yeah so let's go into that then it's Billy's guy

Billy you can you can intro them if you want we're calling him Hank his name's Hank if you're a law enforcement person listening right now just like just come on dude just like yeah yeah that'll do it

Just like, come on This guy just Nothing this guy said is illegal Billy. Like come on he like you got everyone you wanted behind bars like this dude was in college Just chill out You should actually cut this part Because that makes it sound like really bad and it's not

What? Okay, none of this shit You should cut this shit Then they're gonna listen and realize that Billy's exaggerate All right yeah whatever go go Let's go to Hank. Let's go to Hank Yeah Okay. So we have an anonymous insider on the nexium case. And I, you know, this guy was found in some DMs. And hopefully he can shed some insight that wasn't any of the documentaries and mainstream story. We'd like to welcome on our anonymous source who's, we're just going to call Hank. What up, Hank?

What's up, guys? Thanks for having me. It's a pleasure to be here, longtime listener. Since everyone. Since everyone. episode one. So I appreciate you guys. This is awesome. Oh, yeah. So, Hank, what would be the best way to describe how you obtained some of the information that you have and your intel on the situation? Yeah, for sure. So I, while I was in college, I grew up at upstate New York. And while I was in college, I had a family friend who owned a local store. I took his offer. and I got a job there. When I got the job there, it's the type of store that just sort of like caters to a lot of people on a daily basis. So like the same people are coming in there every day.

You get regulars or whatever. It's not a food store, but just something like that. So I was working there. And about on my second day of the job, my boss and a couple of the other employees joked around with me. and this was back in 2017. So, like, nexium really wasn't mainstream back then. Like, nothing had blew up at that point. So, like, second day at the job, my boss and my coworkers were like, oh, just so you know,

you're going to be dealing with a cult every day. And I was like, ha, ha, very funny guys. Like, don't know what you're talking about. And then as the months unfolded, they told me, you know, go watch this YouTube video. Go look at this article. slowly things started to get like weirder then it got to a point where you could kind of like pick out who was a part of nexium like to the point we're like you knew so much about it that it was so like prevalent in every day and then all the shit hit the fan and they started to blow up

and that's when it got really fun so that's when like weird things started happening and it got more intense so i will say it was um a male store in the local area of upstate New York. So what kind of stuff did you see? Did you have any contact with some of the high-ranking members, even Reneerie? I think that's a, yeah, Reneery. And did you have any contact with the investigation during this time? So, yeah, yeah.

So no contact with Keith Reneery. Keith Reneery never stepped foot in the store. but a lot of the normal everyday members so probably around like 100 to 150 nexium members would come in over a week's basis and they were all different people and they would all come in for some sort of reason we were kind of like their go-to spot in the area for whatever they needed to do on that same note in terms of higher ranking people certain days you would be standing there you'd be just doing your job, all of a sudden you look up and Nancy Salsman and her daughter, Lauren, are walking through the door. Big smiles on their face, always smiling, always, you know,

way too cheery. And so we started working with them a little. I never, I met Claire Bronfman. I never met Sarah, but I was involved with a lot of their transactions. And then another non as well-known name is the name Basit. Tett. I believe he's a Middle Eastern investor and he was romantically linked to the Bronfman sisters. He would come in pretty often. And although we were never a part of the investigation, also we were like all the people you see in the HBO documentary, like just the random people sitting in Keith's house while he's spewing bullshit, those were all people who would like come into the store day by day. So that was that.

You said that they'd have like a weird smiles on their face all the time. Were they usually in a very happy mood? Or did they seem, was there anything that like just seeing them come in? You would say those people are weird or was it just like, wow, these people are always just in a great mood? Definitely weird. Like these people do not interact on a normal level. Like the conversations they have, they are planning in their head before they interact with you. so they've got that big smile on their face they're all about being positive self-help putting the

best foot forward for themselves so you'll walk in there and you'll start talking to them and it is just like cryptic like smiling like always twisting something in a positive viewpoint so that was some of the people there were also people who were extremely skeptical of us like we were handling their mail on a day-to-day basis so these people like there were definitely people who knew like these people know who we are and as chit like started to go down that's when they probably got a little more nervous about interacting with us it uh did anyone ever try to recruit you to come to a nexium seminar so i was not recruited because i was kind of there late in the nexium game but my boss was directly recruited by like one of keith's right hand man who that right hand man

is now dead, uh, just like by random, uh, circumstance. So he walked in one day and this was probably like 2014 back when nexium, everyone just knew it as the local self-help group. And they were doing a transaction. And like I said, they're always really positive. So they're like encouraging you like multiple, here's an example. They'd be like, wow, you are so good at your job and just like keep telling you that, keep complimenting you, kind of like trying to lift you up. So, uh, one of the members after the transaction said, you know, like so and so you're, you seem like a really good kid. Would you ever be interested in helping your self more as you step into like your professional career? And, um, our that, the manager walked over and heard what was going on and

sniffed it out and said, no. And he pulled the next young member to the back and, um, and he pulled the next to a member to the back and told them never to speak to him like that again. So it was kind of like a known thing that the bosses of the shop knew who the members were. And the members knew the bosses knew the bosses. But the bosses didn't want to get rid of all of them because they were bringing in thousands of dollars worth of revenue a month. Yeah. Did you ever see any of the evidence of the collateral that a lot that was being sent up to the top in any of the alleged packages that were being ordered, certain gear that might have been moving. They needed deliver and whatnot. So I just want to circle back on this basic tech guy quick because

Billy asked about if I was ever involved in the investigation. So I was never involved in the investigation. We always joked about like, do you think there's like FBI guys just staking out in the parking lot all day, just kind of like watching us, seeing who's going in and out of the store, whatnot. But one day, basic tech came in and he asked to express ship a laptop to France. And he said I needed there like tomorrow or the next day, which is a lot of money to, it's pretty much a plane ticket to fly over to France. So I told him what the price was. He said, no question, go ahead, do it. He stayed in the store to make sure it was packed up. He didn't want to leave until it was packed.

I showed him that it was packed, put it in the back of the store. Two days later, my manager gets a call from the FBI asking us to confirm that we shipped that package. So once they confirmed it, got all the details, the tracking number and stuff, the FBI took it from there. But yes, they did say, like, what's going on here? So they definitely had eyes on our store. So do you ascertain that maybe a lot of the collateral that they talked about in the documentaries may have been on that laptop and sending it out of the country was for safekeeping of that blackmail? I think basic. So this is another thing I kind of want to get

straight about like the documentaries and stuff. It's not a sex cult. Like everyone wants to label it as a sex cult, but it's really like an abuse of power cult. Like the sex stuff was only happening within like Keith's circle. You know what I mean? He was facilitating all that stuff. all these other people who were part of the cult were like fraudulent in terms of money in terms of stuff like that so i think like basic tech was probably involved in a lot of you know types of financial stuff like don't giving a lot of money to the fund probably had a lot of incriminating emails on that laptop so when he sent that that's probably what that included um in terms of collateral. I never saw direct collateral. The only thing I ever saw. This is another detail. All

these, one thing they do in Nexium is they try and build you up and they, they want you to like be self-sufficient and they want all these, they convince these people to open these random LLCs. So within the office, I had LLCs. Some members had like upwards of five. they were doing things like window washing like just random shit but they were just like whatever they could like set a goal towards so what they would do is they would start these LLCs and then the only evidence I really ever saw collateral was one of the members asked me to laminate some documents and while I was laminating them of course I was reading them and there were details on it like her entire day was broken down to the minute of like

what she was doing in that minute and then within that was all the calories she would eat all that stuff and then she also uh her LLC was like a real estate business so on that was like her financial goals for the next three years and they were like ridiculous like like for a small town LLC that just started like hundreds of thousands of dollars of revenue within a year or like something like that and just like proceeding from there so they were like taught to hold these standards against themselves. And I think they, like the people who weren't a part of Keith's like sex ring, DOS, those people were just like abusing themselves pretty much.

Yeah. What was the general feeling in the town, like the townspeople towards nexium? Did they, like I know you said that they were kind of an important client. So you had to teach you had to treat them pretty well. But like overall was it was a town like we got these freaks on the hill over here. that are doing their weird cult thing like did you guys know that it was a cult or was it just like there a bunch of weirdos that live in town right so that's the other thing is like while i was working there dude i my respect for them change like so fast like when i started there i was like you know

there another uh customer walking through the door then as i started to read more and dive into the folklore online i was like my perspective started to shift and then when it came to it i was really like you know fuck these guys like and i was probably like letting my attitude like get the best of me like treating them like pretty coldly like while they would be asking me for favors i'd be ignoring them stuff like that so i would say um the town like didn't give a fuck like i tell all my friends all the time like all my cool nexium stories and they're like oh like that's cool like whatever. So it was like really weird. I think a lot of the older generation was like super aware of it because there were all, you know, like women's events like my mom would attend women's events in the

area. And every year they would have a booth at these women's events and they'd try and be recruiting people like that. So those were in the early years, like early 2000s to 2010, like before people knew what they were actually doing. But if you ask the adults in the area, are like very aware of it. And yeah, I think it is kind of like a freaks on the hill type of opinion about them. Yeah, that was that. What was really fun was when everything started to like go down when all the articles were coming out, all the videos were coming out, they were making arrests. They were flocking into the store and shipping their entire lives down to Texas with intentions to cross the border to Mexico.

Oh. So we were coming in, $1,000 transactions, just box after box, shipping all that stuff. Almost every one of them also had a box that was for shredding when they came in. And I, yeah, I think I mentioned to Billy. We probably shed shredded like 100,000 documents or like more of just like boxes on boxes of these things. And they were always, as we were. So I don't know if you guys have ever worked with these like corporate shredding companies, but you like put them in a garbage bin that's locked and then the company doesn't come and pick it up and shred it until you call them and order them to come. So Pete, that freaked them out.

Like the fact that they were in a locked bin, but they weren't getting shredded in our stores. Like they were very skeptical about that. So did they do anything to circumvent that or they just were sort of. they trusted the process on the shredding of the documents. I think they definitely trusted us because when I say like this got to a point where like I was on a first name basis with them. Like they were coming in every day. And I know I said I was kind of being like a douche to them.

But it made my job a lot easier to like be nice to them and just get them their shit. And the job I was doing like wasn't too hard. So it'd just be like as soon as you saw the face through the door, you'd go grab their stuff they were coming to pick up like you knew what was going on so that's what i didn't like is that they all knew me by like first name and everything so i think like once i kind like i also multiple times like i had to say to them you know like i don't care about your shredding documents when in reality like i did think it was kind of cool were they were they by far your like biggest shredding documents client uh towards the end 100% yeah they were uh before that it was a

I'm asking you, as somebody in your position, it's got to be weird. Like, some of your job is to just help people destroy documents that they don't want people finding. And so it could be like any business. Like, how common is it that businesses across America are just like destroying a shitload of documents? Right. That aren't yours, but you're having your hands all over them. Yeah, I was, you know, feeding them one by one into the shredding bin. A lot of these documents were like big booklets that.

were like nexium issued booklets like um like the stuff you see in the documenters like the shit they were handing out at those uh like at their seminars like here are the a hundred steps to be a better person or some shit like that so got uh big t you got anything no sounds pretty crazy though yeah there was um there's also like a ton of just random stories you know like there was uh i don't know um i saw mad dog set on twitter to watch seduce so did you guys watched seduced or the vow seduced i saw seduced okay did they go into like how nexium was trying to like pray on mexico at all uh i watched three out of four episodes so i didn't get to the last one i got three out of four as well that was me with the vow too so i but i

I did some other research on Reneer, and he was arrested in Mexico, right? So he was like, it sounded like they had a pretty big footprint down there. Yeah, I think, like, they got heavily involved with, like, very wealthy families in Mexico that were just, like, letting them do whatever they wanted down there. Like, nobody was really questioning them down there. So there was this one instance where when I tell you, like, these people were dumb, too, like, just. Just, just very simple-minded people. They were like the members of Nexium. So I had this one kid who came into the store, and I asked him to sign, he was open in a mailbox.

And I asked him to sign the paperwork. And I asked him if he could put today's date there. And he said, how do you write today's date? And I said, what do you mean? He said, I've been in Mexico for months. I don't know how to, like, write out the date. And in other countries, they do it day, month year. But, like, this kid did not know, like, the form of two numerals, a forward slash and two more numerals.

So that was weird. That same kid, there are rumors online of him. They started this program in Mexico where they, like, everything they did was pseudoscience. So one of their programs was to teach kids like a different language, very young. Like they would have a lot of Spanish speaking members of nexium and they would raise, they would, like, those people would become babysitters for the wealthy family's kids and they would speak dual language and they believe that would make the kid like smarter. And that same kid who didn't know how to write the dates was accused of like sexual assault allegations in Mexico. And I think that's why he got sent back. out, but you're, yeah. It's wild. All right. Well, Hank, thank you for joining us. We appreciate the

perspective. Billy, you have anything else you want to ask him? No, I think that's all it. Thank you so much for coming on, Hank. And hopefully, I love you guys. Aaron Foster, I love you. Thank you for giving me joy watching NFL for many years. What's love, brother? I appreciate that, man. For sure. Keep doing you guys. I'll be listening. So if you ever do another topic i'll be in billy's dms okay hell yeah man bye guys thank you thank all right that was oh shit you're gonna do it billy god damn it was my interview power hungry he was right it was right go ahead billy cook i want to do voicemails sure sure okay we just have two today

and what up gang uh love the show i was just listen to uh arian uh love going crazy and he said never had a problem follow me into the weekend and i was thinking you guys ever have a a bad date story like a embarrassing date story it went wrong uh somehow i she got crazy you you got weird i don't know you got a weird date story let me hear it i thought this is funny arian did you hear the question no i can't hear the question uh he referenced one of your songs love going crazy I forget exactly what but he asked if you have

if everybody has a bad date story bad date story um why why would he rinse with my song it was like you said never had a problem follow me as the weekend yeah shout out to that guy man go stream it if you have Bobby Fino

you know what I mean um it's almost I almost had a million listens on Spotify, which is pretty cool. But, yeah, bad date. I don't think, yeah, I have. You ever be around somewhere? You meet somebody for the first time. You've been talking, you know, on the internet for a while.

And on the internet, on your phone, talking on the phone for a while. And you finally go meet them. And it's just nothing you can, because they don't, it's nothing that they don't, it's nothing that they did right but it's just the the vibe was so off you don't really get along and you don't really agree with anything that they say and it just gets to the point where it's like i it's getting annoying like you're kind of annoying me and i i don't want to be rude right and so we met up and i was over it pretty quickly um but she wanted to continue to like explore me and so I started I got I got this little game on my phone and I'm playing the

game and then she starts getting mad like isn't that rude it could be rude I was like it's not rude I was like I heard everything you said and she's like yeah but being rude I was like I don't think I'm being rude I say I don't really like the tone you take it with me right now like it's getting kind of you're really aggressive like if you have an issue with me just say it like you don't got to you know I got to talk to me like that but she kept pressing me saying I was being rude and then like from there it just got really bad I was just like I don't like you

I'm sorry I just don't like you and that's really hard to do to somebody just me you know what I'm saying like it's a really weird and awkward place to be in but she puts me to the point of like I was trying to be nice

but you keep insulting me now I'm like yo you're not you're not you're not lit it's just it's time to move on and it's always a really bad bad experience but it is what it is

we've moved on from then I've told my like most prevalent one on here before but it was pretty similar vibes to what you just mentioned and this girl was like super into numerology and was explaining it to me and I was like that just that's nonsense and she was like we're the she was like she listed off what my numerology was and I was like yeah that doesn't describe me at all she'd be the first person I ever met who who didn't like and I was like okay whatever and then she also I think I've mentioned this too like asked me where I was from and I was like Georgia and she was like you know what I mean and she's like where your grandparents from and I was like Georgia she's like where your great grandparents from I was like Georgia and she was just getting so pissed off and I was like yeah this is not gonna be a thing Georgia yeah them numerology people will be killing me, man.

I got a homeboy who's like that. He just sent something in the, he said something in the group chat the other day, dog, talking about the whole buddy from Buffalo with the heart problem. DeMar Hamlin. Yeah, and saying that the NFL is scripted. And I'm talking about my man is in a group chat with like six of us who play in the NFL. And he's like telling us the NFL scripted and it has all kinds of these, like, like, the number three and like all this other.

Wait, is that, is that who I think it is? He, he, he, he was on his Instagram story talking about six, the number 66. Wait. It's probably the same type of bullshit, but that's not, you don't know him. Wait, what?

Who is it? You're probably thinking of Larry Johnson. Yeah, I'm thinking of Larry Johnson. Yeah, no, it's not him, no. Larry Johnson is, that, who's shit? There's, like a, there's a name for that shit. I forget, I always tweeted out

when people ask me, but it's like when you see patterns everywhere that aren't there and they'll, they'll connect anything and any and everything. And this is, Larry Johnson played in the league. He played in the NFL and was a two-time pro bowler. And it's like, you made to tell me

dogs, like, somebody handed you a script. Shut up, man. Like, shut up. Shut up. So stupid. But that pattern recognition may have made him really good at reading defenses. Or, like, reading different blitz packages.

It was good at not getting tackled. I don't know about all that rest of that shit. But, yeah, the thing about cats like that, though, is if you got to be careful, like, getting into it with them, because some of them are very well read, right? And so if you are, if you are unknowledgeable about a certain aspect of what they believe in, then in their head, in the audience's head, that's who, if you're, if somebody's watching, get into it with them uh that's a l for you so like they are really into like the bible they are really into uh certain aspects of history and so if you if you're not well read enough to even

get into it with them like i i would i would suggest you don't because it's they know what they talk about from a certain aspect it's just they connect all this other bullshit that doesn't have anything to do with it it's wild bill you got any uh date stories he won't he won't tell it why's that because he's like always cryptic he like doesn't think he's ever talked to a woman

yeah it's better if you guys think that do not have one see like just go the next one go the next voice oh yeah I have I have them but they're too specific and I don't want

too specific there's only going to be one other person in the world that knows about it I don't want them hit me up let's go let's go come out are you you you tell me a person you've had a bad date with is

religiously listening to your podcast and at the end of hour three she's going to be combing through the video for us to give someone someone would message her someone would message oh like there's enough people yeah I'm I just look

I'm this see don't think she gives a flying fuck what you think about her really that's just a that's just a I just, you know, some people, like, you know, some people should be able to go through their life and not think that something that they did shows up on a random podcast with someone they met five years ago, 10 years ago. Holy shit. Just go to the police pulling the privacy of innocent civilians.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. At some point, people should feel security and knowing they won't be on a podcast. Yeah. All right, Matt, what's yours? I went on a, it was my first, first date in New York. and the guy was, I guess I found out once we got on the date was very into barstool.

Luckily, I didn't listen to macro dosing, but he asked me if I had ever met Dave. I said no. And he then laid out a step-by-step plan for me to impress Dave. No, that rocks. And he was like, this is what you need to do. You need to go up to him, give him a firm handshake. You need to lick him in the eye. And then you need to tell him what you're going to bring to.

Like, I already work there. No, this guy rocks. And then he told me, he told me what, he must have done something in finance. I'm not quite sure. I don't remember. But he then told me how to like invest in the stock market, which is just a, if you're a boy in that world, don't tell your first date what she should be investing in her portfolio. You know, it's, she don't want to get rich. It is so ridiculous how some people who have like, think that they have such a good idea of what goes on.

in this company and they're like, you should do this, you should do that. I'm like, look, man, like, I don't tell you how to do your job. Yeah, no, but he was like basically breaking down how I need to become content. I go, that's not my M.O. here. I'm, I'm like more behind the scenes. And he was like, don't you want to be the next big cat?

And I was like, not really, not necessarily. The next big cat. Mad cat. Yeah, but. Med cat. That's kind of, I've, every girl, that I've, that works here that I've talked to about dating and stuff has, has had a similar experience where it's like every dude that's just like, well, have you met Dave?

Just like, damn, yeah, I got to start dating dudes with sparries on. He probably was wearing sparrie. That's a lot of, that's a lot of New York. A lot of spary wearing. A lot of spary wearing. It's a lot of the hinge population on New York as well, yeah. Hinge? Yeah, the dating app.

No, see, if you're going to do it, you got to, you got to pay for it. Dating apps. The fuck am I pay. Like, who am I paying? What? You get, you pay. You pay. They're saying, do like, like, upscale one because, because if you're doing the free ones, like

you do, dudes just want to, they just try, they just try and boom. That's all they're doing. And even for the date, for the upscale ones, but you're more likely to find, you know, like a dude that's willing to, you know, invest in his dating. if you're going to do data that's my advice but yeah I got off the hinge game it's it it is soul crushing so

but how many how many unsolicited pictures were sent to you over hinge yeah no I don't know that you can send pictures yeah that's no I don't think you can't I think for that exact reason no hinge is like isn't that girls swipe only

no that's bumble that's oh that's bumble I have not done that down yeah well do you want to do one more voicemail you want to go yeah do one more voice man we can do more voice man what's up this is michael from san diego uh had a question relating to avatar so in the movie the humans that get made into avatars uh or have an avatar rather they get clothing made for them and you may remember

some other people had accessories like the military men was wearing the Oakley style goggles or sunglasses so I'm curious what clothing would you want to be made for your Navi body if you were to go into

the Aditar world yeah I guess uh Aryan, being that some of the humans who have avatars in the films have clothing made for them, if you were made into an avatar, what kind of clothing would you want to wear? I don't think I would have clothing made. I would wear what the natives wear. With the exception, I might have like a dope-ass beanie or something like that.

Maybe a beanie. I would just do a beanie. Yeah, just like dressing Navi shit, you know, with the whatever vibe they're going for And then just like a nice little rolled up beanie. That shit might be lit. Navi, Fino. What do you think about the Navi? What do you think the Navi pets?

They're not pets. I think they're domesticated? They just have a special hair octopus connection. Exactly. Exactly. They connect with them and they have a conversation with that animal and it's a mutual thing that they want to achieve an objective. I just think it's a little weird how they have sex the same way that they touch the things with the animals. Is that true? Yeah. Did you see the first movie when they're under that tree?

I saw it in 2008. They connect those things. Oh, okay. Why do you think people aren't just randomly connecting? Why don't you think the Navi aren't like connecting those things? things like randomly every day i mean do you walk up and like shake the hand of everyone you see in new york city no but like why is that so forbidden i didn't know i don't like they would have like been doing it more if it wasn't like super like totally personally i don't know anyway yeah i don't

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