Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Phonies ft. Jeff D Lowe

Episode Date: July 5, 2022

On today's episode of Macrodosing, we are joined by Jeff D Lowe to talk everything phonies. Also, Billy breaks into PFT's apartment to get his soup and suitcase that he forgot at the office. All of this and so much more on today's show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. Include that, Matt Dog, that little comment from Big T. We should, wait, are you saying, Big T, that we should, we should have taken over the studio that KFC Radio, the longest running podcast at Barstool Sports has? Are you saying that macrodosing? I'd say that's the best studio to have. Macrodosing should have invaded P&T. Oh.

Well, yeah, I mean, we didn't Who would have ever known that just because you build your studio with windows and active construction going on outside that that would make it noisy? There was no way to be prepared for this. We were all caught off guard.

Welcome back to macrodosing. We were joined by Commissioner Jeff D. Lowe of the dozen. Correct. How would you like to be introduced from now on, Jeff? Would you like to be introduced as Commissioner Jeff D. Lowe from the D.

Doe Lowe from Lights Camera podcast? would you like to be lights camera bar stool Jeffty Lowe from Good Morning America Jeffty Lowe The T Lizard Man Two-time Emmy winner Oh of course Yeah

Of course It's whatever you What pleases you the most Maybe not the dozen That's bad memories for you currently Well now it is Because you went there Sorry

Two-time Emmy Award winner Jeff D. Lowe You and David Blatman Really the shining stars Of the seven combined Emmys That's incredible Yeah What are you used for?

The best morning show, best morning show. Good morning America. I had really nothing to do with either of the Emmys. So how many people got those? The whole staff. So hundreds. Hundreds of people. That makes the Emmy 5% less valuable.

Emmys in general are the worst of the big four awards. I'd say Grammys are. No, no, no. No, I think Grammys are worse. You got to know what you can, but you got to know what you can win a Grammy for though. Yeah. You can win a Grammy for a spoken word album.

Yeah, but it's got to be fire words. I think Grammy's the worst. But aren't there like seven Emmys also? I think the daytime Emmys, sports Emmys. They have anybody a sports Emmy. Hot take, I think Sports Emmy, not who cares. No, it's not a real award. I got snubbed.

Sports Emmy? Spie. I got an SP. I got snubbed. What was your category? Best New Athlete. It was the year I led the League of Russian. and they gave it to Blake Griffin.

Wow, that's tough. So that was like Lob City. He's my friend. He's an average. He's the average that season. Did you see who the SB nominees are this year? I let the whole league. And also like Blake Griffin, he was probably rookie of the year when he got that, right?

Like he was a he was first overall. No, but I'm saying wasn't he the first overall pick in the NBA draft? So like it's not like he was a new athlete. You were dog shit in college. And then you had a. breakout year, you were truly the best new athlete. I would probably slap you. The hardest, the best of the four is the Oscar.

It's the hardest one to win. Because if you win, if you win, no, if you win Best Picture and you have four producers, only three of those producers get, get the Oscar. I like that. Yeah, like, it's, it's kind of fucked. Like, what do you mean you like that? It's good. It's exclusive.

It makes the club, because if everybody worked on a project, bro, why won't I get the A, too. Well, then you should have done, you should have had your name higher up on the credits. I'm actually, I have to go back to the fact that big T implied he opened up the SB nominations yesterday. That's surprising to me. Yeah, wow. Well, it was, it went viral.

Did you see who the... It went viral. The SB nominally did it? This one did. Yes. The best MLB player. Did you see who the nominees are? Oh, wait, can we guess? Yeah. Best MLB player. For, I think it's last year and kind of this year? I don't know. Knowing ESPN,

they probably put a New York Yankee on there that definitely did not deserve to be nominated. So I'm going to guess like Aaron Judge. So Judge, Judge, it implies it's this year and left. That's weird. I think so, which makes the fourth nominee that I'm going to tell you even more shocking. Trevor Bauer. So

it was Judge. The other two make complete sense. Showing Taney. Yeah. And Bryce Harper, both of whom won MVP awards this year. The fourth one was Jorge Salé. who hit 223 last year and I mean he had he had the one moment and one World Series MVP which was they really value homers in the World Series yeah but but he's uh he's the fourth one and he should win it in my I think he's like it's also like a ratings thing like he or a viral moment thing I do think

they knew when they sent out that email that it would get tweeted out yes is he like the San where people are just like voting for him as a prank I mean again he did win World Series MVP but yeah He did not have a season. I bet that it's probably commensurate with those other three. It's the World Series MVP. It's the AL, the NL, MVP, and then Aaron Judge. Who's hosting this year?

Oh, wait, let me guess. I didn't know what was happening last year. Okay, there's probably one of three possibilities for this. The Rock. Rob Riggle, he's probably number one. Yeah, it's probably, yeah. It's actually just Rob Riggle. I'm sure about that.

I'm not even going to make two backup guesses. Although if I did, I would say Joel McHale. That's another good guess. And then the third guy that hosts things, I'm going to say Joey Fatone Joey Fatone isn't big enough for Aspies I see all the nominees I don't see There is a former sitcom host who hosted one time

A sitcom star who hosted one time From a 90s and 2000s sitcom Nope He did Well I know but that's not who I'm I just named a 1990 sitcom star That hosted the ESPB Like big star part of the biggest sitcoms ever

Nor MacDonald is one of the Bob Saget Nope good guess Better guess Tim Allen No also a good guess Thank you. It's a weird one.

Carl Winslow. So I'm thinking of a big star. Also bigger show of on PFD. No. I don't know if he was on a sitcom. Samuel Jackson hosted a bunch. Yeah. The asspeas?

So who's this mystery host that you're thinking? Matthew Perry. Did he? He took his pants off on the stage. I don't know why I remember that. I was thinking Timberlake. Jimberlake hosted one time. He was good.

He sang a love song to Candace Parker. Love that. What a guy? Candice Parker played for your favorite coach. Pat Summit Pat Summit Yeah for the Aryan You're a Pat Summit

Fan right Great woman in sports Led one of the most influential figures In the history of women's sports You're looking at two of the biggest Pat Summit haters In the world Wait

Haven't you You don't have an excuse Because I'm a Yukon fan No I'm shocked That Big T just called me a Pat Summit hater You've joined in on this What are you?

Big T PFT literally said The other day that he's a Title IX, like, fanatic. I have never said a bad word about Pat Summit. I think you've joined in on this little bit that these guys have running around the office. Well, isn't that just like a lib to just, like, paint everybody with a broad brush? Actually, you'd be the third biggest Pat Summit hitter.

Jack Mack is too, but you've led this crusade. But see, aside from the people who are in it, why do we hate Pat Simon? That's a great question, Aaron. And why don't I let Jeff? P.F, I'm a UConF fan. That covers it all up. But you, I'm a Gino guy. All right, that makes sense.

PFT though PFT is no wearing a Tennessee shirt and a hat why do you hate Pets something No no no no no I love Pat Sommett Oh He's calling the other two out

PFT is I have no idea I can't I can't Yeah you can't see Jeff What the fuck PFT though you have no excuse I'm a Gino guy What are you talking about I do not hate Pats Summit

I'm so confused You joined in on this I've been in on this I don't think I've been in the office when there's been like a dog pot on Pat Summage. How many dog piles? She's dead.

She's so well respected. Everybody loves her. So you would think, right? Yeah. No, not in this office. These guys. Shout out the patch out the Tyler. I mean, I understand you're not liking her.

I understand you're not liking her for the Yukon shit. Yeah. But I mean, what evidence do you have that PFT is not a patch thing? There's just zero. At points joining him with Jeff and Jack Mack on their little. You know what Big T's doing? Big T's doing. You're like the people on the internet that call you a,

Nazi because you're conservative. That's what you're doing to me because I'm so likely to say that a great person is overrated or be a hater and a troll. You think that I'm a hater of Pat Summit too, even though there's no evidence. For shame, Big T. You're suspended. Pretty vividly recall. Oh, I'm commissioner. You can't suspend me, motherfucker. Can I appeal your suspension? To you? I haven't suspended you. Yes, you can submit to my office a request for suspension. it will then be reviewed and we'll see what happens from there can we

can we do something about this construction what do you want me do you want me to go punch them all you know how long they're going to be doing that right it sounds like for the next seven years months sounds like that Howard's turn like well okay she's going to come in ride the Sibian should we get like all business Pete in here and

like her something's always going outside that window what the fuck oh you're one of those neighbors. It's so goddamn loud here. It's actively. I can't hear it for if that's any that's any consolation. I can't I can't hear it. Um, so Aaron, uh, we talked about this a little bit before we got started here before you joined the call, but, um, I fucked up big time. I, uh, I forgot my soup at my house and it's a cream base soup. It's a Poblano soup, cream of Poblano. And I've been looking forward to it for about 12 hours now. I got it for dinner.

last night. Sometimes I like to let my soup sit out a little bit longer, or not sit out, but I like to save the soup to eat it later because it gets better tasting the longer. It's like in the fridge. All the flavors get better. And so I was going to bring it in for my lunch today. I took it out of the fridge this morning, put it by my bed, was getting ready, and I just forgot a giant bowl of soup in my apartment. And I'm not going to be home for a long time. And so I'm just going to have this cream-based soup just getting rancid in my apartment. for for weeks now for like a week week and a half and i know he's suspended from the show but i also remember it's funny the first thing i remembered was that i forgot my soup and then like 30 minutes

later i remembered i forgot also my suitcase that has all my clothes in it that i'm going to be taking with me uh i'm going to a wedding in jamaica and i don't have that bag with me i know billy suspended, I'm considering asking him to go to my apartment to retrieve my soup and my suitcase and bring it back. Do you think it would be appropriate to have him just step into the studio? I want to ask you, because you're part of this as well, can we get ability to step into the studio so I can ask him to do that? And he won't speak into the microphone, but if the microphone picks up his voice in the background, is that okay with you? That was the longest explanation

if you want Billy back on the pod. Sure, man. Okay. But he's not back on the pod. He's not back on the pod. No. So why are we putting in the studio? Because I need to ask him to retrieve my soup.

You don't got a phone? I want to do it face to face because I have to give specific instructions to him. That's what I'm saying. Don't ask me for permission to put your man's back on the pod. Do it. You also have an ask the commissioner. Big T.

Permission? I think it would be funny. if he stood right there and you told him what he needs to do, yes. Okay. But he can't talk into a mic. Can't, cannot speak into Mike.

Okay. He shouldn't be able to speak, period. Yeah. Yeah, he can do, what if he doesn't speak? He just nods his head. I mean, you're asking him yes. And you're not even asking him.

You're telling him he has to go get your shit in the apartment. Yeah. Can't talk. Can't talk. He just has to receive him. It requires no reply from him. Yeah. Okay.

We'll do that. He'll be temporarily unbanned from the studio. But he won't, he still won't be on the pod. before I leave to go to the shore I'm cleaning up my apartment so I'm having a lady come by to take care of that today and I'm hoping that Billy goes to my apartment sees her they fall in love real quick have a trist have a baby she can't get an abortion that baby becomes president and that president destroys the world in a nuclear war all because I forgot my soup how cool would that be I mean you'd have to you'd have to give it up for for destiny at that point right

no it's important to note that's not how that works in regards to she can't get an abortion but that would be funny I was looking for big T's comments on that one okay hang on real quick I'm FaceTiming Billy

he can't speak though oh yeah yeah can we bleep him out yes Billy where are you doing I'm buying a brace You're buying a brace Yeah I fucked up my ankle Oh wow

Where are you? How'd you wait how did you fuck up your ankle Playing basketball Oh I'm sorry So You're in you're in Hoboken right now right Yeah I'm about to hop on the pad Okay

Get off at my stop I have a lockbox outside my apartment Okay And I'm going to text you the code To the lockbox and I'll text you, like, what it is, like, what to look for. So take the key out and then go up to my apartment. My soup is on my bedside table, so it's right next to my bed in my bedroom.

And then also, this is very important, probably the most important part, Paul in love. I have a suitcase, that tiny, you know, that tiny bitch little red suitcase that I bring for weekend stuff? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's in the living room somewhere on the floor. Okay. And it's going to be really messy because I just threw basically all my clothes in the living room floor while I was getting packed up. But get that suitcase too. And then it's important that you put the key back in the lockbox because I've got a cleaning person coming by.

But if she's in the apartment, feel free to fall in love with her and have a baby and have that baby one day become president. And then that president destroys the world of nuclear war. That that that's Arnold Schwarzenegger's story. Yeah. So do that. also yeah that's the third assignment for you and then head up to my place and if if the key is not in the lockbox that means that the cleaning lady is there right now so you so so then just buzz up to my apartment and try to go up there just scare the shit on over could you send just send me your address the code and everything yeah make sure it gets dark okay okay cool thanks billy i'm obering by the way from your apartment because i can't fucking walk. Okay, is that,

is that your way of asking if you can expense your way to work this morning? No. It kind of was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It kind of was.

All right. Thank you, Billy. I'll text you the details. My ankles is big as softball. Okay. All right. Bye. It's crazy how much I know, Billy.

If he gets to expense that Uber, I'll be expensing my last, my last couple Uber's to the office as well. You guys can do whatever you want. You can expense your Uber's like. After 8 p.m. Yeah. Home, yeah.

Just noting. that using this for evidence i as commissioner i am revoking my uh moratorium on him speaking that can stay in can i say something that i'm embarrassed about speaking in the subway um this morning i was getting off the subway and i was about 15 feet behind pft and i was too nervous to go up to him and say hi really i was like he's probably doing something wait i got nervous wait so our stop here at the office you were 15 feet behind me yeah I just kind of slow walked

I wouldn't have said hi I saw well you know it's crazy did you see me that's kind of I saw Big T and I got scared and didn't go up to Big T I wouldn't I see Big T all the time and I too I'm too nervous to say hi to you guys like so Big T was like 30 feet in front of me and I was like oh oh my God we all got I got let him go first and then you're behind me really but see the thing is so then if you say

hi in the subway station you've got up the stairs then you've got into the office then you're standing in the elevator it's there's too much conversation that's that's also like i don't really give a shit because i like being here but some people probably don't and that's people's last steps before they have to go into work i don't want to bother them i don't know what moment they're in i don't know if they're listening to something that's right that's their last moments of clarity before they have to work y'all y'all aren't accountants i know i would agree that's why i don't care but like numbers and like i don't want to go to lunch with that person i have to see them all

i didn't see someone today though on office i got walked in the office i got walked in the office and I got pulled in and I played video games I did see someone from our third floor today who does work on the business team though and they had headphones in I almost said I was like I'm just gonna leave him alone Well like this happens Gooch and I get on at the same subway station

Shut up Gooch So like this happens all the time I see him in the morning and like I'm like because that's even Now you've got five six stops to the office And now like you know That's a long way to It's like it's the morning

You're both tired Do you really want to talk for that long? I see I see Big T all the time on this subway And I'm just I just I'm like He probably doesn't want to chit chat right now And then you were on your phone PFT And I was like he's probably tweeting I just got nervous and I didn't say anything

Listen listen listen young ones Life is short man You don't got to go have a full blown conversation About the current advantage because of hey what's going on Good morning man You know you never know when you're going to see anybody I almost went up and tapped you on your shoulder But I was like that would scare

We're such bitches all of us Yeah but now next time someone comes up PFTs He's going to be like, hey, how about those Supreme Court rulings today? He is going to drop in. It was, in the morning sometimes also you don't want to get in the conversation. Then you walk up that big staircase and then at the top of the staircase, you're like, bless you. Excuse me. You're both like winded.

You're both like exhausted. And then you have like that weird moment in the conversation where you're both catching your breath at the same time. You're like, neither one of us should be tired from this. No. Well, and we, so we're recording early right now because of schedule stuff. So it's way, yeah, it's way earlier than any of us like, or not way earlier, but we're usually not recording this early. So I don't really know what everyone's vibe is this early in the morning. It feels like in school when like toward the end of the year that they just like flip the schedule for whatever reason and you'd be like your body would be.

You're in math in the morning and usually and you're in after lunch. Yeah, that's what it feels. Yo, P.F.T, do you have a onesie on a fan? I'm not wearing a onesie. It's, it's balls beachwear. So it's a matching Hawaiian shirt and then Hawaiian shorts. I can't see the different. It just looks like a onesie. So what if it was? Would you have an issue with that?

A rompil? Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't have a romp. Yeah, a romper. I wouldn't have an issue. I would definitely make fun of you, though, for sure. Well, it's not a onesie. But I am going to Jamaica. I don't know if I mentioned that yet.

So that's why I'm wearing this. I'm an island boy. Getting tropical early. Island boy. So on today's macrosing, we do have Jeffty low. And, Arian, I'm not sure if you've, have you met Jeff Lowe? We've met formally. We chat in the office, but I don't think we formally met.

We'll consider this your formal introduction. Aaron, this is Jeff D. Lowe. Your future commissioner. He is the commissioner of the dozen, the trivia league, which macrodosing is going to have a team in that next year, right? I'm saying I'm supposed to be on. What's heading it? It doesn't start until the fall. Yeah, fall.

Oh, okay. Very excited for that team. I mean, is it the three of us? Is that confirmed? Is that what it is? Is that, I mean, I think it sounds like it's a big T to seem bad. That's what I've been told. Big T is commissioner.

It's been the, I've been told three. I think that's, that's the plan, yes. I'm so excited. Big T. It's going to be fun. Mad Dog and Eric. Will you want to debut against PFT's team? No.

Why? Because I'm scared. Whoa, that. See, I don't want that on my team now. I don't like that. I'm not afraid to talk to BFT. No, you guys, okay, I'm a big, Jeff. I am a huge dozen fan.

And the experts are my friends. favorite team. I don't want to go and be like go against my heroes right away. I don't I don't like that. I don't like that. Also, like my favorite team, bro, we're about to beat their heads. Aaron, were you like, were you afraid to go up against like Ray Lewis when you got to the NFL?

Nah, you got to see me on that fucking field, dog. Okay, that's what I want. Okay, P&T, fuck you, it's on. Okay, good. I like that. And when you go up to him in the subway tomorrow, or not the moment, push him over. like kick the back of his foot

she comes in like I push him on the tracks yeah and I don't kill him he's dead what would you say your trivia specialty is uh knowing shit

yeah that's important subject category uh probably like science stuff like science facts um locally known science facts like this this is a change for Big T's last team he was on with a point porn star.

It's true. Yeah. Who's that? I don't know much about the point of it. It was me, Pat, and Lisa Ann. Oh, well, former porn star. Former porn star, okay, yes. Current fantasy football.

She was pretty good. She was a fun match. She played PFT, yeah. Thank you. I mean, obviously football, obviously football on science are my things. Yeah, Aryan's going to be great to have. Fatsy, what would you say your, your strength is?

My strength, well, Jeff, you know my strengths because you don't ask me questions related to them anymore. So once Jeff figures, out exactly what you're good at, then then you're done. You won't like questions that you know the answers. That was the, that was the, that was the, that was the, that was, I should have said something else.

Well, no, no, let the record show PFT said we, barstool idle, we did a, a version of the dozen and I said they, they did really well and he said, well, probably because you wrote them easier questions and then PFT you stood across from my desk and I asked him the same questions. He went, what, two for eight? Something like that. But, so for example, it wasn't a good look. That's still batting 250.

It wasn't a good look. Aaron, he won't ask you questions about. obviously like, okay, Houston Texans quarterbacks from, you know, the early 2010. That's not going to be a question that Jeff will ask you. But once he figures out your strengths and weaknesses, then he knows what to avoid. So for me,

like I used to be, I think my strongest category was the celebrity name puzzle. Yeah, but that one, that one away. I used to get those in like half a second. That's how my mind works. I'm shit with celebrities. I know Marvel That's where I step. That's why we want

mad dog. Yeah, that's, yeah, you just got to be good in a couple, as long as if you combine to know everything as a team that's all up, you don't need to one person who's a ringer knows everything. Some teams have it, but this seems oddly don't win often. I'm good at sublime trivia. You are very good at sublime trivia. Very good at that. Yeah.

What is sublime? Just the band. I just, I know a lot about that band. Oh, band. Yeah, I think I have my niche topic all set up. Ready to go. I'm excited. Big T knows a lot about Disney movies. Evil combat configurations. Disney movies is my shit. Yeah, Aaron, you have to pick a niche category.

Did I say Aval? I meant naval. Naval aviation is one that I'd like to have considered for next year, Jeff. Okay. You can do whatever you want. It's a niche. Okay. Cool.

Runner up of a dozen. Run her up. The experts. Thank you. How specific can you get with the niche? Like, if you do like movies, you can pick a specific movie. You can pick a sports team. It can be like a specific 10-year range.

So like Einstein. Einstein is my niche. Einstein. Interesting. Interesting. He could pick, technically, Aaron could pick a 10-year window of the Texans. So, like, yeah, that's what I was going to say. Yeah, Aaron, just pick the Texans from the 2010s.

That's kind of win, man. Okay. Yeah, yeah. You'll learn. The show used to be like a, like, there used to be this kind of unspoken, like we're all taking it seriously. Now it, now it's all, it's very serious. It's people, it is very, we need to win. Yeah, it's cutthroat.

Yeah. So Jeff, Aaron. of Aryan Jeff D. Lowe. Now that we're all acquainted, today's episode is going to be, happy 4th of July, by the way. This is coming out. Happy 5th.

Happy 5th of July, yeah. This episode is going to be about phonies. It's going to be an abbreviated episode because we are taping this early and like I said, I have to go to Jamaica later on today. PFT is in fact an island boy. Yeah, Island Boy. So we're taping this early

and we're going to talk phonies with Jeffty Lowe. I'm a big phony fan. I'm enthralled by frauds. Like really I've noticed that every single show that I watched recently is about a fraud Whether it's

The guy from WeWork Oh he creeps me out Travis Kalonic From Uber Elizabeth Holmes Clean, girl boss Total girl boss I'm obsessed with frauds

I think that frauds are They're just Anadelvie Yeah Yeah Anadelvie although I hated The Soho Gryftor Bad show

Terrible show on Netflix Frauds are having a moment In television especially on subscription based Billy McFarland did not get his own show though The Fire Fest guy Yeah but that's still like a fraud thing Yeah but I wish you

I don't know why he didn't Yeah he should have He didn't get what He didn't get his own show based on him All these others did His maybe he was maybe the most viral one Fire Fest is still like You do it on your show on PMT

Yeah Bernie made off You know it's crazy Another fraud I think he is actually One of the rare ones Because I think a lot of them like no they're scamming I really think

he is just like convinced he's doing an okay thing who Bernie Madoff no no no no oh McFarland absolutely was convinced I think he's just like he was just convinced he was just convinced like even his interviews afterwards

were like what it was fascinating shit I watched both those documentaries on Netflix and Hulu yeah the the FireFest thing I feel like Billy McFarland the big unspoken subtext that is ever present throughout that documentary

is just cocaine. They never talk about coke in the documentary but if you read like all the emails going back and forth and their like behavior like Billy used to, if he had to brainstorm about something, he would like sprint outside, get on his ATV and then just starts speeding up and down the road

thinking and then he'd come back park and be like, okay, I've got it. Like they were just all coked out of their minds the entire time. That's what Firefest was. I didn't even know that that was a part of it. Oh, yeah, it was Coke City. But, yeah, I'm fascinated by frauds and by phonies. I don't know what that is about me. My favorite documentary of all time, Enron, the Enron documentary.

Yeah, that's good. I need to get in on the Enron stuff. I like their merch. The Aneron documentary is fascinating. They have really good merch. Like, there's a bunch of, I get a bunch of Instagram ads with Enron merch on it. And I don't know what that means about me. Yeah.

But I want it so bad. yeah it's a good logo the smartest guys in the room it's it's it's the enderine documentary is fascinating because they like some company like theranos Elizabeth Holmes like they fucked up their own thing and Ron fucked up many things way outside of their company like from the government down to blockbuster like they impacted so many literally fires power routers and cal like they did so much fucked up shit yeah they ruined California yeah um and it's just it's it's insane We need to do an Enron episode. We should.

And then I can get the shirt. That documentary is awesome. What about WorldCom? I don't think they did a documentary about WorldCom. That happened like right after Enron. I remember that they were the big sponsor of the Washington Wizards at the time. In fact, it might have been briefly called WorldCom Arena. What did WorldCom do?

Big fraud. I think it was also counting fraud. Something in the neighborhood like $500 million more. What was their like deal? I don't remember. You don't know what their company was? I don't really remember. Yeah, I just remember it got lumped into the whole like,

okay, they're kind of like what Enron did. That's what they're doing. What was Enron's company about? Inron was just making up their business. Energy. They were in the energy business and they were also in like the trading energy futures business. Yeah.

And like they would allocate where the energy was going on the grid. They would create artificial supply issues, which would drive the prices sky high. Like people in California had their energy bills go up like, what, 50, 100 times what they normally were? They would call power plants in California, especially during when they had really bad fires

and they would be like, hey, you should find a reason to go down. Just take the power down. They would pump the energy out of California, raise the prices, pump it back in. So let's watch the smartest guys in the room. What's it on? I don't know.

You may have to rent it on like you too. And then we'll do a recap episode. Jeff, if you want to join us for that. It's crazy. That's crazy town USA. They ruined Blockbuster. Those sons of bitches. I would say that just arrogance and hubris

ruined Blockbuster. But they, I mean, Blockbuster tried to do a streaming thing and Enron was the backer of it and Enron was a fraud and exploded and then Blockbuster had no support system. How much could they have bought Netflix for? Oh shit. I think it was like 10 million.

Yeah. That's crazy. They also indirectly led to Elizabeth Holmes being the girl boss she is today because her dad worked for Enron. Her dad was a VP at Enron. Oh, wow. Mm-hmm.

Crazy. Apple doesn't fall far. That's wild. She's a great phony. I think we all love phonies, right? Yeah. Do we love phonies because they make us feel good? See, I picked three phony candidates.

That's good. One of mine is a confirmed phony. All right, give us the list. Give us the list and the reasons. I'll give you the three names. Okay. Don Gorski. You may not know who that is.

He's a man who claims he's eaten a Big Mac almost every day for 50 years. It's a Guinness Book of World Records holder for Big Mac. He only eats Big Macs. Who's second place? Is there a second place? It can't be that close. Anybody that like gets on the phone with Guinness and they're like, hey, can you send somebody out to just like verify me? This is a conspiracy phony.

That's alarm bells ringing. I think he's a phony and I think he should be exposed one day. The second is J.K. Rowling, the creator of Harry Potter, huge phony. Why is she a phony? I have reasons. I have reasons listed. The third is a confirmed phony. That's Steve Raz and Izzy from the show of the league on F.

Were you ever on the league, Arian? That fantasy football show? That's actually kind of surprise. It's like around that time. He lied about being in one of the towers on 9-11. I remember that. It's an all-time lie. He was on the Mark Marin podcast, and he got like really detailed.

He said he was in the 54th floor. So the buildings jostled around a bit when they got hit. He said he explained that the building security, when I was loudspeakers, everything was okay, just like stay put and he said he went outside and saw what happened then he watched the other tower

get he called up to his it was a crazy story and then he said that he thought for the first three hours even after the tower show that he thought it was just a bunch of drunk pilots crazy story he was in the Mark Merrim

and then he eventually said like I lied about that and where was he at the time uh like oh uptown or something what the fuck it's a crazy story like he wasn't even nearby no not at all

that's nuts he fled to the street just minutes before another plane slammed into his building, he said, and decided that very day that life was too precious to waste opportunities. So he abandoned his New York desk job to pursue a career as an entertainer. He used it as like, here's the great story. Here's the inspirational story behind why I decide to be on a TV show about fantasy football. He said he got nervous at a comedy club in L.A. He felt like he didn't have any interesting things to talk to people about, not on stage, like before going on stage. And it was like, oh, yeah. They're like, oh, you were in

you're from New York like you're from New York like it's like yeah he goes I was in one of the towers and I don't and then he just over the years just added to it just at layers and layers wait it's this guy you start with a small little lie and then you just build and build there's actually there's so there's a recap on the Opie and Anthony show I think after Anthony Coombeio left but it's Pete Davidson is listening to and Pete Davidson lost his dad on 9-11 and it's Pete Davidson listening and reacting to it on the day that it came out that he lost and Pete Davidson said for a while he looked up to Steve Razanizzi in comedy because of the similarities. He's like, wow, you were in the built on the towers on 9-11 and he said he DMs.

He's like, you know, it's always been weird to me. I DM Steve Residency a few years ago. He says, hey, man, I think it's really cool that you had like 9-11 impact your comedy career like I did like with my dad. And he goes, the fact that it impacted your career is great. And he said, Residency replied saying, yeah, something like that. And he said, I always thought that was very odd. And then he said years later ended up because he just fucking made it up. I can't believe it's Kevin from the league.

I would have thought it was, what's his name? Taco. No, Taco's too pure for that. Yeah, it's like the main guy. One of the main guys, yeah. That's great. He's a confirmed phony. Yeah, that's crazy. The Brian Williams effect.

Where you like say something because you think it, for whatever reason, it sounds like a great story. And then it just becomes part of your life to the point where like, I think Brian Williams deep down actually. believe that he was under sniper fire oh for sure even though he just completely made it up it's weird how people do that um my and now his daughter is in is is in shows and is she yeah she's in get out um i've got i've got two phonies they both have the same name and we can go back to some of yours jeffin yeah i got to give you the rap sheet on don gorsky see if you think i'm writer uh j leno's also a phony but fuck him i got nothing on him he sucks yeah i think everybody

knows he's a phony right he likes cars got a lot of them yeah i don't know why j leno's a I'm such a deep-seated hate for Jay Leno. Because I'm a Conan O'Brien guy. Fuck Jay Leno. Oh, I do like Conan better than Jay Leno. Well, it's deeper than just like one or the other because Jay Leno actively tried to like kill Conan O'Brien's career. Yeah. Oh, okay.

He's a real piece of shit. Okay, let's get back into that later. How, I was going to go off, Jeff. He, he, he, well, so he, he, he fucked over Letterman at one point. So he had a history of fucking people over for the tonight show job. And then he promised. He promised Conan O'Brien the Tonight Show, left the Tonight Show, retired, peaceful transition. Conan came back in, was only on it for a little while.

His audience hadn't totally transitioned yet. Like, typically when you have a new host, like Fallon had a transition period, like Seth Myers, like it takes a while. Jay Leno went back on to have like a show after Conan, but then one way or the other, like the show that Leno now created, pushed Conan back an hour so Conan's Tonight show started like after midnight so it's no longer like the Tonight show

and then it really fucked up Conan's stuff his ratings really plummeted and then Jay Leno took back the Tonight Show from Conan and then due to like non-compete Conan couldn't be on TV

for like a year, year and a half or something like that he's a big liar he's a big phony fuck him and then his rating still stunk and he gave it up to Jay Leno

and he gave it up to Jimmy Fallon yep that's that's nice and succinct Jesus Piece of shit My two people Actually have the same name Can you guess who that would be

Both very prominent In the mid-2000s Late 90s Mid-2000s Same name Although one has an S At the end But

What Area Like sports music Two separate areas One in politics The other in television Oh my God This is I can

It's in my head shit and they have the same name but one has the s at the end yeah i don't know what the fuck john edward and john edwards okay i don't know either of them i don't know who john edward is the john edwards is i'm going to screw it up john edwards i think is the guy that was uh he's the politician he's the politician he ran for vice president on the john carry ticket lost to George Bush who was one of the least popular presidents of all time at the time

and was the overwhelming favorite at the start of the 2008 cycle yes was the overwhelming favorite he was the darling boy of the Democratic Party because Democrats love love a good Southern Democrat right a blue dog yeah he had a lot of like JFK physical traits to him too

good looking guy if you get a Democrat from the South then Democrats are like well the good old boys will love this one That's Beto O'Rourke now. Yeah, but they never do. Like, good old boys. Never win.

They don't want to vote for John Edwards. John Edwards was like a family values type of guy, squeaky clean, pristine image. And his wife got terminal breast cancer. And as she was dying, he cheated on her. Yeah. And I think got his girlfriend pregnant or something like that. Yeah, you had a kid. Yeah.

Immediate slime ball out of nowhere. Immediate slime ball out of nowhere. Shut up. Like, as his wife was dying. Yeah. Also, obviously, spoiler alert, did not become president. Did not. Or vice president.

No, yeah. It was overtaken by both President Obama and Hillary. I wonder what he's up to these days. Oh, being a slime ball? Oh, that's so terrible. How old do you think he is? Now, 62. He is 69 years old.

Wow, that's okay. That's a lot older than I thought. How's he look? Well, the picture is just from when he was a senator, which was like 99. How did you look then? Great. Oh, wow. Big T thinks a man looks great.

We're making progress from him. He looks well, well kept, put together. He's in front of an American flag. Oh, that's what looked great was the flag. The flag always looks great. And so then... No, it doesn't. My flag is trash.

Oh. Aesthetically trash? It's an objectively bad flag amongst other flags. I would agree with that. Bad flag. Give me your top three flags. Original Hawaii flag was fired. Yes.

I really fuck with I know it's simple but I fuck with the Japan flag It's very simple but it's just aesthetically pleasing It's badass And this is just off the head right Oh I've got a couple right now Yeah yeah yeah do a couple

I forgot about my last one Great Britain The Union Jack That's just a cool design It's also a good name too Yeah it's a cool design I do like how they have a name for it Now we're just talking about

the aesthetics because like the union flag there's you know a bunch of a bunch of genocides that occurred underneath the union jack but I still think that it's a cool flag I also like the the Ghana flag is cool Albania's got a cool flag does that have the eagle on it? Yeah yeah that's a good flag

the double eagle almost yeah yeah I like that flag I like I was like Barbados's flag too the Kenyan flag is fire Kenya's flag is fire let's see Kenyan flag Kenyon has like the kind of like the shield

Yeah it's got like the shield Yeah that's very cool That's your hot Is it India that has the wheel Yes Yeah I like that And I like Sweden The blue and the gold

Play really well together We could have a better I'm not mad as to you Well if we redesign the flag now We would have the most boring minimalist bullshit flag Based on how we redesign everything like logo wives in this country?

We'd spend at least 24 hours Roachia on Twitter. It would be, it'd be three, it'd be a white flag with three dots. A white dot with a black outline, a red dot and a blue dot. Exactly would be. It'd be so simple.

Absolutely minimalist. I kind of like that. Mexico's flag is fire. Yeah, it's got the bird. A good flag. Yeah. What's the one that has like the two, I think Fiji,

look at the Fijian flag real quick. Are you don't have the two pennants on top of each other? The one that has, like, oh, that's not the one I'm talking about. What's the one that has like two birds? Oh, this is a bad flag. Two birds looking at each other.

Two birds looking at each other. I don't know. Albania. The, Fijis looks like it was made in. The Albania flag is like, is very cool. Albania is hard, bro. There are a lot of good flags out there. We don't have one.

That's a solid flag. It's no star spangled banner, but it'll do. I mean... Which one? Albania. You like the idea of the stars. I love it. I love the way it is a great looking flag. You're indoctrinated.

I don't think so. It's a good, it's a good aesthetic flag. It's not. I like the way that it looks in certain situations. But I don't, from just like an artistic point of view, it's not really balanced at all. It's got like, you know, the stars are just up in one corner. They cut into the horizontal stripes on the top. Horizontal stripes go all the way across at the bottom.

I feel like just artistically it's not It's not great Jamaica's flag I would say I'm going there I was about to say pound for pound I think all the island countries

Have the best flags Like if you were a group of like The world They are like Barbados Jamaica I think all those countries have the Like the group together Have the best flags

Barbados isn't I like Trinidad's flag I think of an Olympic flag Is always see I was thinking about An Olympic stuff Wait wait wait Even Canada's The flag is firing

Is there a possibility that the key in the lockbox might be to another apartment? Like, there was two keys? Oh, no. What are you talking about? So I have the key, but it's being bitch getting into your keyhole. Okay, so are you at the front door or are you at my apartment? It's not the black one that goes into that keyhole. It's the bigger brass one.

Oh, I just got it open. Okay. Are you in my apartment right now? Yeah. Okay. So are you in the living room? Yeah. Do you see the red suitcase, the little bitch baby suitcase?

Yeah. Okay. And then the soup, this is the important part. The soup should be on the nightstand. Why is it on your nightstand? I think it's on the nightstand. You got it? You got the soup?

Yep. First salad. Fuck yeah. All right. Thank you, Billy. And the suitcase. Billy, tell him to bring something random, like a fucking spoon or something. Bring me.

I got my jar of weed No don't bring me my jar of weed I just come into the studio when you get here Literally bring my TV Okay um do you want your water bottle too Thank you for offering but no I'm good Throw the soup out No he's bringing the soup

Oh okay okay sorry okay all right thanks Bill I'm looking after you Expense that Uber bye More evidence for me expense my Uber Okay you can do that already Yeah, I guess Okay, I'm sorry to interrupt Where were we?

Flags Flagg talk We're just naming Phonies I also base I base a lot of how the flag Looks when it's draped Across the back of somebody

When they win a medal At the Olympics And ours is great Even though you're not supposed to do that I know No, you are There are certain ways to do it There's a when I work the Olympics

When I worked for Team USA There is a huge Huge section of flag rules and like what you can and can't do it's crazy Ryan Lockdee one of them

can't wear a grill on the podium stand he did do that that was tough of all of all the crisis crises that I saw when I was at the Olympics my office

the USA Communications office when he stepped up onto the podium and he smiled and he had a gold grill in oh man people went they were like

oh no we're going to get in a lot of trouble is that just a rule they have like for appearance or is that because he was with the flag uh it's part

partly that and it's also it's like an iOC thing like it's more so the iOC and the iFC hates the united states everyone does yeah they hate us because they ain't though now they're just giving us olympic games like it's fucking candy so do we have one other than la we're gonna get solid city again yeah oh for the wonder uh i think the bahamanian flag is awesome yeah it's bahama's good flag great flag uh uh ussr flag okay Now we're getting out of control. So I actually think that the hammer and the sickle went hard back in the day. Now, of course it does.

Now I don't think it goes as hard anymore. We discussed this on the show, though. I think that like the idea of workers having a sickle in the fields doesn't really apply to modern day. No. I'm just saying the sickle has a big part in it. I'm out on sickles. No sickles? No sickles.

I don't think they can do anything good. They, they reap. I don't even know what that really would mean. Right? You reap what you sow. Yeah, but that's what you use. That's a primary tool for reaping is, would be a sickle. Not really used for anything else.

I'm going to be real. I don't really know what reaping means. Like harvesting grain. Oh. But in stranger things, that's not what they're doing in stranger things. You're probably disemboweling somebody. No spoilers. No spoilers.

I haven't seen it. I'm just guessing. Oh, by now it's good. I've never seen. By the time this comes out. Great first season, decent second season. I think poor third season, fantastic fourth season. First season was awesome.

I've watched the first two episodes. I finished two. Very long. Yeah. And you have to be paying attention to every long. You can't be on your phone. Like you have to watch every second of it. It's scary town.

So yeah, John Edwards. They're actually both named John Edwards. It appears. I thought one was John Edward. No, the other one is John Edward. I looked at him out. Oh, it is? Okay.

The medium. The medium. Yeah. So the first John Edwards, the, the politician, he had an affair with his campaign worker, Riel Hunter, as his wife was dying of cancer. Yep. Class act. Class act, that one. Another big phony, John Edward, the medium.

If you don't know who John Edward is, he had a moment. I think it was like early 2000s, was the John Edward moment. he hosted a show called Crossing Over with John Edward and he claimed that he could speak to the dead so what he would do he would have family members of people that had lost a loved one so family members of somebody who had died people that had lost a loved one would go to his shows

hoping that they could talk to their dead relatives and just like tell them that they love them one last time or like connect with them or ask them advice about something. And John Edward used to stand up in this theater, pick people out of the crowd, and using cold reading tricks that a lot of magicians know, a lot of, you know, old school like carnival barker types know, he would say that he's talking to their dead relative. He would claim, like, I know nothing about your past. He would ask questions, leading questions that would have people be like, yeah, I know somebody whose name starts with a J. Yeah, I have

lost somebody um who worked like in in retail yes i do know that person and then he would claim to be speaking with that person and give them like communication from their dead relative and people would like break down in tears they would cry just completely playing on everybody's emotions and for some reason we all kind of went along with it at the time everybody was like wow this is the only guy that can talk to dead people that's crazy i'm so glad he has a tv show people would buy tickets to to show is that we're super expensive because they're like, yeah, this is the only guy in the world that can talk to my dead dad.

So let's, yeah, I want to talk to this guy. Praying on people in crisis or in dire situations, absolute phony, every time. Big phony. How do you feel about the Long Island medium? What does she do? Same thing.

Trash. All mediums are shit. All mediums are assholes. I kind of, I loved the Long Island medium growing up. I don't care about it. The reason why I hate them so. much is exactly the reason you're said, but it's just like, I, I can't stand people that pray on people who are going through like a real thing. You know what I'm saying? And you can't

talk to the dead. Shut the fuck up. And people are looking for any kind of like hold on to hold on to the lost relative and your fucking asshole self is, I could talk to. Shut up. I hate them. All of them. I loved the island. Wish them all a painful death. I do too. What about a free to hug a pro bono medium just doing it just doing it for me that's what the line of the medium did she would do it for the love of the game I don't I don't make millions yeah she wasn't doing it for the love of the game

she had to do it for the love of the game before she got the TV show I would do it in like the grocery store no she was charging probably but she would be in the grocery she talks about like she would be in the grocery I'm not saying I believe in it but I did when I was 11 but like Mattie I was hustling people in the grocery store being like hey

it's a house she was building her brand put it like that she's building her brand she would wear so much hair spray and a bump it and she would say look she would stop me also she would stop you in the meat aisle and say look i know i know i don't know you but do you have a dad that was named jim and then they all like i know it's not real she probably did their she's probably did recon on them yeah if you got the credit card information from the front of the door objectively the worst hairstyle of all time is the bump at shit that's bad that is the worst 2011 me oh it was so bad little 12-year-old madeline madeline and was so into the Long Island medium it was crazy I would sit down you got hustled right along with all the best of good thing no I'm not saying it is I'm just I'm I fell for it I'm saying it worked I think John Edward the medium

significantly worse than John Edwards the politician really I do too I do too I think they're both they're obviously both phonies but I mean do got do got horny with his wife is on his deathbed I mean I can understand it not not the most cool move in the world but like you out here really fucking people over with just medium shit. Yeah. I'm, I threw the politician in because they had the same name and I was like,

okay, this is a good pair that I'm putting in. And they are both phonies. But John Edward the medium, like, that's, he made money grifting people off their grief. That is like, and for longevity, that that does probably make it worse. But in terms of like the worst thing you can do, I think that's really, I think the politicians on your dying wife is probably third that I can think of. What's number one? Did she find, does she find out? probably worse and then after that that might be third yeah wait did she find did she find up uh i don't for she died because that would be that's a good question if if if if she didn't find out before she died like at least she went like you know in peace but if she if she if she found out

i forget if it came out before after she died that's that's that's pretty bad and then i would i would i would i would i would low-key blame the reporter yeah she found out before she oh fuck she found out it was actually it was a somewhat controversial that it was reported on at the time yeah i would not i would not report that i would not report because it was reported after she died yeah it was uh it was a little bit of that and also i feel like politicians personal lives were not quite as much fair game as they are now in 2008 it was still fair game but but i would also argue we don't need to know i don't care like do you not think she deserved to know yeah but she didn't deserve to know by getting it blared out on like TNZ or whatever it was.

I learned a long time ago, man. Sometimes doing the right thing ain't the right thing. So if you're being like valiant and you're and you're being heroic by, hey, you need to know before you die, I'm going to break your heart. Fuck, no, I can't do that. But then I would live with that guilt. Like you would just live with that guilt. Man.

Ignorance is bliss. Ignorance. I can see both ways on that. Because like, I'm not. So you, you're a stranger and you feel like it's incumbent. on you to break somebody's heart for the guy. I'm saying if I was if I was either of them either her or john Edwards like for her to die like and her like say I love you to her husband as she's dying who has like fathered a child with someone else yeah that feels really shitty but on the

other hand it is really shitty for her to know that he was cheating on her and go to her deathbed with that so they both suck I hope she's I hope she haunts him every night when he closes his eyes and ghosts ghosts or phonings too. Yeah. But if, I don't know, man,

if you've ever been a heartbroken before, like, spare me the pain before I die. Like, I probably, because you might die of that.

If they was really, really in love like that. Right, like a heartbreak. That shit is one of the worst feelings in the world. Yeah. And I'm not bringing that pain to nobody. One,

it's none of my business. Two, to bring that upon somebody when they're already facing their mortality dog like that, I think that's a shit. shitty thing to report but also did it come out while he was running

I thought it was after I thought he was really dead in the water I think that matters also yeah I thought he was already dead in the water on the race because he was pretty quick so he was also a big phony because he was anti same sex marriage it was back when like I don't know 50 60%

Democrats were against gay marriage though Biden was oh she got Obama was everybody was yeah that's one of I can say honestly I was on the right side of like my whole life I remember I was having like a debate against my friend's dad who is like it's big big conservative and I was like I honestly don't get it like why why do I care if gay people get married and he was like well it devalues the sanctity of the institution I was like I mean people get divorced left and right like who who cares like if somebody's gay husband is dying in the hospital their husband that's been their partner

for life, should be allowed to visit them on their deathbed and receive health benefits and life insurance stuff. And it was insane to me that anybody was anti. John Edwards was anti-gay marriage. Meanwhile, he was porking his assistant while his wife was dying. Yeah. And he's trying to protect the sanctity of marriage. It's big phony. But John Edward, John Edward, the medium, I think, I do think he's a bigger phony because he would have people that that would like go outside his his shows and talk to the studio audience on camera be like oh what are you what are you looking to hear and he would have a live feed that was like transmitted backstage and he'd be like taking notes on people and

shit i think he's just he was he was knowingly and willingly doing it to advance his own career oh yeah consistently uh for years and years and years just being a predator so um those Those are my two. I was going to do my... Go ahead. Big T's the commissioner, he says, go ahead. Yeah, yeah, I appreciate the go ahead. It led into mine, and it's not all, but most preachers and pastors and all their motherfuckers.

Because they feed people the same bill of goods without really knowing if it's true or not, but they pretend it's true, right? So I'm okay with religion. I'm quite, I think people need hope. And some pastors do a good job of offering hope. But some people take it a step further and assert that they know and can interpret God's will. And they know what he wants and they know what he or she, you know, wants to institute with our lives. And I think it's just, I think they pray on people just as much as mediums when they ask offerings. All they're like, I go drive by 59 almost every day. And Joel Osteen has a

fucking mega church. This is what the Rockets used to play. And this motherfucker is big. And they pack that bitch out every Sunday, dog. And like, they have Saturday servers, Wednesday service. And most of these people are just like average working Americans that give it up to this motherfucker who lives in a million dollar mansion, which Jesus specifically pricked against. And so it's like all these motherfuckers just be phonies man like all memory wouldn't fucking open it up during the hurricane too yep i was there yeah was there and then the next like two or three days he opened it up because he got so much backlash on twitter and then he's like yes this is the house of the lord and niggas shut off it's the uh the prosperity gospel and i'm not i'm not exactly

familiar with i mean i've done like a little bit of reading on it but i'm probably going to butcher my explanation of it um the prosperity gospel is what a lot of these like major big preachers like to say, which is, um, like their rewards that they're getting. It's a testament. They deserve it because they're spreading so much. Like the more word you spread, the more you'll be rewarded not only in heaven, but also during your time on earth. So, um, they, they look at a good thing. I feel like Houston, Texas is also like ground zero for a lot of these major, major preachers. There was a guy. Atlanta too. There was a guy. I think his name was Creflow Dollar. I think oh my god

you know him you know you know creflow he got a plane didn't it yeah yeah and his last name was dollar he changed his name to dollar and he was like he was a mega preacher and he was like i'm just spreading the word of jesus had a private jet that would take him left and right um yeah those types of evangelists they're they're phonies

there was one there was one dude who was like uh i have i have the meme in my phone somewhere but he was like uh because they was it was talking to him about his private jet He was like, the private jet was so cheap I had to buy it. I was like, you're a piece of shit. PFT was scammed by a televangelist. I was. What?

Oh, you guys know this. I ordered that giant burrito and rice Mexican food bucket. Oh, that was from a televangelist? It was a televangelist that was selling survival food and I ordered it. And Jeff and I ordered, what, January 2020 before the call. Great call on our part. Never got it. I never realized that it was a televangelist.

I thought that was the soup. That's the soup stuff? he did that again soup was a separate yeah I okay that wasn't phony this was it was a fiesta bucket it was a big bucket

of just like different text mex never got it got you never got a receipt I had two as well my second one um is milly vanilla that's such a good one yeah so milly vanilla for people that don't know they were

R&B artists back in the late 80s early 90s and they were I'm saying they were selling things or records. They were doing a thing. And in one performance, they were performing in front of a crowd live and their voices started to skip, like something happened with the audio engineer, and they just ran off stage. And it got so much, it garnered so much attention that it started to come out

that they were not the singers of their songs. And so they, I mean, they won Grammys and everything. And so they had to give all of that shit back. And it was like this big scandal. Like everybody did like comedy skits of them. It was wild. It became a meme. There was those memes before a meme.

Yep. That was actually, that was great fodder for Jay Leno. Jay Leno was making mill and vanilla jokes through the mid-90s for sure. Nope. Then Ashley Simpson took over that. She became the new lip-sinker. That was all time. Oh, do you see?

I also ran off the stage on SNL. That's crazy. That's a The next person Who gets caught You can't run off the stage Own it Yeah

And they played the wrong song Right Yeah Yeah the wrong song It skipped And the wrong song Started playing And then she did like a

Like some sort of like Irish jig Yeah And then ran off the stage Yeah Oh I gotta see It's real awkward It's very

It's brutal It's brutal to watch But yeah Millie Vanilli That's a nice deep cut I haven't thought About those guys In a long time

What was their song they had a hit right i couldn't say i wasn't i wasn't a fan of them i don't know i feel like they had a hit no they they sold millions like it was they were they were another reason the grimys are phonies they gave me vanilla vanilla i think that's one of jephty low's worst takes that the gramey's worse than an emmy yeah immy's way worse dude you have an emmy i know i do half of half of the producers not to say that i mean the priest yeah but if you if you if you group my Emmy in, you got to group in the bullshit Grammys as well. I don't think

there are bullshit Grammys. But there's also like bullshit Oscars and bullshit like whatever's. No, I know Oscars I will defend. There are no bullshit Oscars. There's only good ones. Thank you. The Emmy's nonsense as well. You took my argument down when you brought the sports Emmy and I will admit that. Yeah, sports. That's no offense

to our coworkers who have many sports Emmys. The sports Emmys, I think, are nonsense. They give it to anyone that's not on Barstool. That's that's kind of how they work. It's like, do you have a show? Is it, is it streamed on like the Bleacher report out? We haven't brought the fourth one in, by the way.

Where do we stand on the Tony Awards just quickly? I don't know enough about them, but I feel like it's, it's difficult. It's difficult to be on stage. Yeah. It's a very high bar for entry. So it's like, you know, to be able to compete for a Tony, it's a much smaller pool. But to be able to get to the point where you're actually on stage on Broadway, it probably has to be pretty good.

Yeah. All right. Shout to Tony. Shout to Tony. Jeff, can you pass me my suitcase real quick? Yep.

That's for a week. For a weekend. You have the tiniest suitcase in the world. It's insane. It's a tiny little bitch suitcase. It's perfect for a weekend trip, though. I just feel like there's better things for a weekend trip. Like,

PFT, you make, I'm sure you make a good amount of money that you can afford a nicer suitcase. You're going to Jamaica with this? Yeah. It's all, it's packed to the brim with Ball's Beach, This is the Michael Scott I finally broke down and got myself a plasma screen team. Look, look, I can lift it with one hand.

It's so easy to get into the overhead. Hold on. How long are you in Jamaica for? I'm going there today, tomorrow. It's a Thursday wedding, Friday, and Saturday. So I've got three pairs. You're all rumpers in there? Three sets of balls beach wear.

Do you have a suit in there? I've got, no, it's like kind of a casual island wedding. So I've got a nice Hawaiian shirt. Do you have linen pants? Some nice pants. Unfortunately, don't have linen pants yet. I do have linen pants that are on the way. My guy said, yet, he's going on the way here? No, they're on the way to my apartment.

Jersey Shore, PFT, linen pants. Yeah. Oh, your wedding's in Jersey. No, the wedding is in Jamaica, but then I'm going to the Jersey Shore afterwards. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, so I'm getting my linen suit. It's like a nice tope. It's a nice tope color.

I like to hope. I think the worst part about that suitcase is, it just draws the eye. also the carry the handle that carries it on the wheels is just unexplicit like it's so long it's so long compared to the size of the suitcase yeah i mean look how long have you had that suitcase i've had so like seventh grade no child no i got the suitcase when i had shoulder surgery in 2011 2012 and my mom was like oh you're gonna have a hard time lifting things i want to get you a nice light small suitcase because i was going on a trip and uh so she bought me my mom bought me this suitcase do you have when you were 11 or 12 no 2000 okay in 2012 yeah okay and so I got the suitcase for it and it's perfect for a wedding trip but did you we have equally um I I have

one suitcase and I got it in 2011 as well both yeah make enough money to buy nicer suitcases no no no mine is good but also PFT but like I would argue I would argue this though I would argue sorry to cut you off me but I would argue this there's two things I feel like you cannot go cheap one. Suitcases and belts. Like I think those two things, you can't go cheap on. I don't wear pants anymore, so I don't have any belts. But my suitcase is in great condition,

and it's probably my best purchase in the last 10 years. That's a good thing that we should discuss at some point is like what are some low-key rich moves being able to say, like, I don't wear pants anymore. That's a low-key rich move. I asked Arian when he was here last time, like, oh, you know, I asked him something about dressing up and I was like oh what happens

because he was saying he doesn't like dressing up I was like well what happens if you you know need to go somewhere that requires dress attire and he's like I just don't go like I I one of my one of the greatest things about me leaving like I guess it's not really corporate

but leaving the corporate television world I can just come to work in shorts and a fucking sweatshirt yeah like that like having to wear fucking pants every day in the heat of the summer for no reason. The worst. I don't miss it whatsoever. The worst. Big T. Who are your phonies? So my first in the spirit of the 4th of July, the second best holiday we have is England.

Wait, what's first? Christmas. I mean, nothing comes close to Christmas. Your big Christmas guy? I mean, it's a whole month of joy and celebration and great music and Jesus. It's the best. So England is my first phony. They had he had two dads what Jesus had two dads sure um Joseph was a cuck

yeah maybe the world's biggest cuck of all time come all man that's fucked up like Mary Mary was all so how do I say this I'm pregnant but like God fuck me

that's what the that's what the Christmas I saw the I saw the funniest TikTok edition of all that dude was like I'm a butcher but he was like it was like uh when he was talking to to mary he goes uh he's like yeah just bake this uh bake this cake she's like we don't have we don't have another she's like you see that's what i'm talking about can you imagine like joseph like just chilling with the boys being like yeah so um so mary

mary's pregnant but um but she didn't cheat on me she did not cheat on me and all the boys were like yeah yeah okay joseph that's crazy that's crazy when you think about it bro like god really tough part to explain was the story yeah like that it's god it's god it's god's baby though like it wasn't but it but even there i mean okay let's say there was a god and he actually did that to your girl are you just cool with that shit like like big t like if your girl that's the whole story though that's why i'm saying you cool with that shit joseph gets to heaven i feel like joseph was rewarded in the end for for sticking God's like hanging out at the bar in heaven.

What's that what's that movie when he's like, I'll offer you a million dollars to sleep with your wife? Indecent proposal. That's just a blot to that shit, though. Yeah, except in seven million bucks, it's just like eternal salvation. Anyway, as I'm saying, England's in heaven. He's like, oh, Joseph, this guy fucking hates me, dude. What did you do? Dude, you'll never believe that.

I fucked up. This guy fucking hates me. And even in heaven Like you walk around Everybody's looking at you like Yeah, that's a dude Yeah Yeah like if you're Joseph

You'd probably rather go to hell right Yeah I don't want to hang out with God Let me let me hear Satan out You know what I'm saying Let me see what he has to offer Because this is some bullshit I feel like he

He was rewarded handsomely in the end How would you get awarded. I don't even remember. I mean, I'm just like going to heaven, yeah, being like the number one dude of all time. Yeah, but then he sees... That's Jesus. And then he sees all those other homies in heaven. He's like, what the fuck? Like, what...

Yeah, I didn't get anything that different. Yeah, we all ended up in the same place. That's true. But he got to go. Yeah, it's true. Can't even drink in heaven. That was supposed to be England. I feel like there's no good transition from Joseph to the English Empire. But that was the original 28 to 3 lead

They lost to a bunch of farmers And then we turned into the greatest country That's ever existed Did you do you also think the current Royal family phonies Well they've been phonies for Okay Hundreds and hundreds of years

So but Big T With England I mean you have to count longevity into this right Like all empires come to an end Would you say They were the greatest empire The world had ever known And we took a bunch of

Of farmers and plumbers And beat them back to where they came right but like it's one thing to be an upstart underdog and to beat the big guy but we haven't put up the stats that they've put up like we we have a lapped them in we have a hundredth of the time yeah but we have a long way to go before we catch up to their their career totals well since the 1770s they've just i mean they still exist but not they're a shell of themselves i understand the sentiment behind it i'm just saying like you know we weren't really a superpower to like the Industrial Revolution, though, right?

But I mean, we beat the greatest military power the world had ever known, and then they lost out on what ended up becoming the greatest country ever. Then they came back and beat us in 1812, though. We don't like to talk about that. Well, that was some bullshit, though. Yeah, it was rigged. Corrilla Warfare tactics. Doesn't count.

My number two, Dabo Sweeney. Okay. Ultimate. I'm in. Go off. I'm in. I agree. When Jeff told me that we were doing phonies, the word phoneies, the word

phony is embodied by nobody better than Davosweeney he's just the faked just fraud dude you've ever seen everything he says is just fake he I I despise him I don't see how anybody like plays for him and enjoys it I mean they win they win that's it's a big part of it but like he's so just fake so what's the worst part about him what's the fakes part um he he thinks he's a preacher yeah like he and then you know I've so he's the phony to phonies that's crazy yeah he just like he is he's the Joel Osteen of college yeah that's a good comparison um he he said he would quit his job if players ever got paid that's right that's right he's making 10 million dollars a year well he's against players getting paid while he is able to being one of the highest paid uh coaches i don't fuck with him because

of that period yeah that's where he lost me too because like you whatever like like like scum me college football coaches or scummy college football coaches like Saban doesn't personally bother me all that much. But they don't, Sabin doesn't hide it. Right, right. I'm an asshole. Dabo. If you're going to get to the NFL, you come play for me. You're going to deal with me being an asshole. Yeah, he thinks he's untouchable and like

just this almighty being dabbo. Fuck that. How do his players feel about him? See, that's what I don't know because you've never, I've never really heard of people like leaving Clemson me and like, yeah, that guy sucked. Yeah, like, but it seems fairly obvious that he sucks. I don't think they have the culture that's

like Alabama has where players are like pumped to come back and support like the future players sometimes I mean Trevor Lawrence I think loves Davo but if you're the star quarterback I'm sure Davo plays by much different rules with you where he treats you like all coaches

I think Deshawn Watson loves Davo well that's not a ringing endorsement but I actually have something to back Big T on this Clemson has this weird culture of like all of them like if okay if we're comparing Davo Sweeney to Joel Osteen. All of them

are like bought into the kind of like church like atmosphere of it because all of them are super religious and all of them get married. They're like junior year of college and so I think they just kind of have this weird kind of like we're all bought into this process together and then

they all get these girlfriends that like kind of also buy in. It's like a whole phenomenon. If Texas A&M wasn't such a weird cult, I think people would call Clemson like the weird cult of them. Yeah. There's something to where Clemson is located and the town around Clemson,

like, Clemson is nothing. Clemson, South Carolina, nothing going on there. It's, you have a hill and you have a rock. There's a couple of gas stations. There's a place that's open late at night to eat. And then there's the university, and that's it. And I think there's something about being in a weird location

that makes people kind of fall into that cult-like behavior, kind of like college station. I was going to say, that's how cults work. Yeah. You go to an isolated location, so you can't see the outside world. and then you all buy into the same process South Bend

kind of like that Oh hey hey hey hey hey hey What do you have Why are you such a fan of South Bend I love Notre Dame Yeah but why are you fan of South Bay Oh South Bend Indiana is a not great place Maybe the worst like town I've ever been to

Yeah South Bend is not great But I don't think Notre Dame is the same like cult like atmosphere Oh no the Catholic church definitely not Okay well that's different I mean that's how my college was Like Miami Ohio is in a literal cornfield That's such a weird

by the way, not to offshoot because I'll be big to get back to it. That's such a weird like college football fandom assumption. You know, like I don't know what the best like example would be to compare to but like if you talk to someone who's Catholic you almost assume they're a Notre Dame fan of they don't have like a college directly tied to them.

Me. That's such that is like one of those weird like I didn't even know what to compare that to. Yeah, I mean Notre Dame was one of my favorite places to play in. Oh, it's such a six stadium. Very cool. It's very cool. Their field was trashed but just the atmosphere was fire. Yeah. See, I feel like most people usually say the opposite of that

because, like, it's an older crowd generally. When Georgia went there a few years ago. It was just, it was just. When Georgia went there, it was like 80% Georgia fans. They like packed the place out. And that was like when people were like, oh, Notre Dame fans have kind of lost their fastball. I don't look at a stadium and be like their fans are crazy.

Yeah, like it. I just, the atmosphere was dope as far as like the, as, I'm big on aesthetics. It's why, like, also one of my favorite was Kentucky. Kentucky's really dope. Because every time we played them, it was like, it was an overcast and just the way the blue lit up, that was dope as shit. But that's why I like, I mean, I don't really pay attention to the fans too much.

Did you score in that game in South Bend? Oh, uh, I believe I put up a bill like 30. I don't, I think I did score. you feel having to look at Jesus when you scored uh it's just an inanimate object that's same way i look at uh any other statue um and then my third uh was just all democrats that's there you got you saw that one coming that was that was that was that was wait are you saying nancy pelosi is a phony yeah i mean i actually i said that is a joke but it is actually like kind of true like

Republicans for as much as Democrats hate them like are pretty straightforward for the most part and Democrats like say they're going to Oh shit What do you mean? They're not straightforward They're all full of shit

What do you mean? They're all phonies Yes all politicians are full of shit But Republicans generally like have a plan And they're like we're going to do this And try to stick to it and Democrats like Say they're going to do shit never do You're delusion

Republicans, Republicans plans to stifle Democrats' plans. Like, that's the rest of the plans. I mean, we spent, we just spent four years listening to Trump talk about a fucking health care plan that never came. Their plan is to like, that's, that's the Republican plan. Unless it's like abortion or something like that, like they're trying to. But again, it's just to stifle the plans of Democrats, which Democrats never fucking passed through like that.

I would agree with you. Democrats are fonded, but it's all the Republicans. That's all the shit is just as much. Yes, most politicians are, but like, this is a bad example because it's such a hot button issue, but a lot of Republicans for 50 years were like, we want to overturn Roe versus Wade and like did it. And Democrats like say they're going to do shit all the time and then it just, they don't. Kind of wish they were less straightforward about that one. All phonies.

They're all phones. Yes, I agree. I hate all of them. yeah um i mean republicans did start the war in iraq of completely false pretenses that they knew was false again i said this pretty big that's a pretty big phony move if we want to talk about guys cheating on their wives like nuke gingrich as he was going after bill clinton for doing admittedly incredibly scumbag behavior um he was cheating on his wife left and right i think he also what you're on his dying wife.

Really? Yeah. And he's still kicking. He's still like a mouthpiece for them. He is, yeah. Yeah, I haven't heard from him in a long time. All phonies. My two here remaining, I'm going to rip through this.

You got to tell me you think the guy's a phony or not. The McDonald's guy. Don Gorski. Okay. Oh, I thought you meant Ronald. I was like, what did he do? No, Ronald's okay. I can, yeah, become cool, Ronald.

From Wisconsin, he's 68 years old. He's six foot to 185 pounds. cholesterol level of 156 as of 2011. That's his first doctor of it since 1985. He's the Big Mac enthusiast. He looks like John Lennon, like a hundred, but he looks like he's cough playing John Lennon. He's eaten over. Don Gorsky, G-O-R-S-K-E, looks like a beetle.

He's eaten over 32,000 Big Macs over 50 years. Big Macs constitute 90 to 95% of his solid food intake, so he claims. uh it's over a thousand calories today on big max claims he burns off all his calories due to being active but he also only really drinks coca cola so he he's not just eating big max he's he's guzzling coca cola uh he says his taste buds fluctuates so he sometimes doesn't even taste the big max he's eating uh in june of nineteen seventy two hundred and sixty five big Max, 4,600 calories, 247 grams of low quality, fat daily. That's 17 pounds of fat in just a month.

Done that for 50 years. Used to collect Big Macs boxes in the back of his car like a fucking pig. Was once bet $5 by a friend to eat a whopper from Burger King. Claims he hated it. Use the money to buy Big Max. We'll never eat one again. Never has again. Put candles in his Big Macs for his birthday during holiday meals when his family's

around the table on Thanksgiving Christmas. He just eats extra Big Macs. He doesn't join in with the food. He is not in a Big Mac a total of eight days in his life when his mother passed away because she said, please don't fucking eat a Big Mac on this day. There was a snow day. And then one day he traveled and he couldn't find a McDonald's in a certain city, which I don't believe that at all.

That's a giant red flag, though, if your mom's dying wish is, hey, can you, on the day that I die, can you not do the most important part of your life on that day? Was it the day she died? her funeral the day she died i believe uh he keeps an emergency stash of big max so he claims in his freezer and fridge uh and he's he packs his suitcase full of big max when he travels just in case he can't find a mcdonalds uh he does claim his ocd partly fuels his obsession uh which i can relate to as i have ocd as well so that could be it i think he's completely full of fucking shit though i think he's so beyond full of shit it's it's insane why there's no way this man

there's no way this man consumes that many fucking calories in a day. I don't care what he's doing. He's not where he just says he's active. He never supplies the evidence. He was also part of that propaganda bullshit from Morgan Spurlock supersized me. There's never evidence of this man eating all these Big Macs. Is it Morgan Spurlock big phony?

Well, I wouldn't say Morgan Sparks so phony because he canceled himself. Nobody was asking and he came on, oh, by the way, it's sexually harassed some of my employees. And they're like, what? He also, but I think that supersized me, the entire premise behind it, he wasn't actually conducting the experiment correctly, right? Yeah, but weren't some of his movies bullshit? Yeah, he's, he's complete. He also had a movie where he tried to go find Osama bin Laden.

Did he get him? He didn't. Spoiler. I think this guy's completely full of shit. I think there's just no way. I think there's no way that if 95% of his caloric intake is Big Macs and his most in, he doesn't drink, most of what he drinks is Coca-Cola. There's just no way.

Does he, he goes the same McDonald's though, right? It depends. He travels a lot. It does appearances. Disappearances at McDonald's probably 32,000 Big Macs he was 185 pounds I might be getting paid by McDonald's at this point

I would that since that I would believe Big Corporation backing him I don't know you tell me I'm looking at the guy right now he looks like a beetle He looks like a phone is what he looks like I can't find any pictures of him like now But when I I saw a picture of him walking in a marathon

Like maybe maybe he like He has a big thing to where he's like you know People are always telling me I was going to die around 15,000 Big Mac, but I'm still here. I think I think I caught in a lie. My other one is J.K. Rowling, Rolling, Rowling. She created a Harry Potter, wrote a great series, but she is a huge, huge buckles under the pressure of mass opinion, mostly when it comes to representation.

Well, because her opinions are very bad. Right. She wrote a lot of books with a lot of white people who do witchcraft, witchcraft and witch. which is fine that's fine star wars it was it was a lot of white people and aliens like it is what it is like okay like she got shit for it like that's probably unfair however here's the problem she reacted to it she buckled under pressure and not only did she make changes she tries to pretend the changes were always there in the first place uh the first one was dumbledore was gay that was her big one that's what started at all she said dumbledore was gay was never in the book

She's like, he was always gay. To me, he was always gay. And then people always say the same thing. They're like, yeah, but you didn't put it in your book. So, like, what are you trying to, like, dunk on people for that, like, you had inclusion of gay people in your book. She just thought that he was gay? Yeah, she said he was.

She said, Voldemort had a kid. And she said she had a kid with Bellatrix, who's a character in the book, said, oh, she was pregnant in all those movies and books. She wasn't. It's like, it's there. You wrote this before. Was she drinking any of that, any of that, what's the butter beer? Maybe.

Maybe. She was not pregnant in the books or movie. She wasn't. If she had butter beer, then she was not pregnant. Said Dumbledore had a relative named Credence. She killed the character in a movie, then brought the character back just magically. She changed one of the characters ages to be decades older. She does that.

But then there's a representation thing. She changed one of, so many people said you don't really have any Asian characters in your books or movies. So she made, she took a Voldemort snake and said that that's a cursed Asian woman and made that made that an Asian woman. She's like, I got Asian people, my stuff. It's a snake. Also, isn't the Asian girl that's in Harry Potter like a super like stereotypical Asian name? Yeah.

So there is another, there are two Asians. One is a snake. Another is Cho Chang. Yeah. Then there's, she said Hermione was actually black in the, her stage play, Harry Potter and the Curse Child. And she said people were like, well, what the fuck? They're like, no, she wasn't. Like she was white.

Like stopped. She did, there weren't many black people in Hogwarts in her. books. And she's like, oh, well, Hermione was black. They're like, no, she wasn't. She was white. And she's like, no, I never said that. But then her books, they're like, she wrote like Hermione, white in the face. Her mind, like, like, she very clearly said, Hermione was a white person. But she's like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, you never know. Uh, and then somebody said, are there Jewish wizards in Hogwarts? And she said, yes, Anthony Goldstein. So she, she just leans, she, she, she, she leans into it. She goes to the most stereotypical, like, potentially Jewish name she could possibly find. You're just like, Anthony Goldstein, Ravenclaw. And then she also makes non-representation changes. She just randomly said, oh, yeah, back in the day before plumbing. Nobody asked for these things either. So back in the day before plumbing, witches and wizards would piss and shit themselves in the middle of Hogwarts, and they would have a spell and clean it up.

Who is? Nobody needs to know that. Nobody's like, wait a second, JK. Would they poop and piss themselves? She could just make stuff up and be like, it was, it was in my head, but it wasn't in the book. Don Gors is a conspiracy theory for me. J.K. Rowling is a fucking phony. She's also a transphobe.

Oh, yes. That's a whole different. You go down a real rabbit hole in that one. Yeah, she's just like not a good person. Yeah, she's just like, it's, I actually would defend her on her inclusion. Like, I don't think her having a lack of representation in Harry Potter is like malicious at all. I think that's just what she writes. She's, like, that's just what she made.

It's like Seinfeld. Right. It's fine. Like, if that was made nowadays, like, yeah, it could probably go under some scrutiny. but then to like to retroactively say you included all of these like Jewish black gay

it's like you're a piece of shit now like you're like stop pretending you're better than everyone because you like have the ability to like change your own shit yep I agree with that big phony big phony okay Matt Doug you have as much as the 9-11 guy but yeah maybe not as much as that guy

you have any phonies yeah I have a couple so one is my queen and girl boss Elizabeth Holmes I love that woman I so when we had with Ryan Rissillo on the show, we did Theranos and Elizabeth Holmes. That was right before I started watching the dropout, which is the Elizabeth Holmes documentary with Amanda Seifred.

Holy shit. This woman is so entertaining and she is so funky. She is very funky. Like everything she does, if you watched the documentary, there's a scene where she dances to how to love. Yeah. And it is so good.

And it's one of those weird things where it's like, you would only be able to make something like that, like a scene like that if it was real like you can't write that kind of shit um wait who's who's this Elizabeth Holmes I don't think you were on that episode for some reason alien have you heard of Theranos

uh uh it's you can explain now go for it it's your phony so Elizabeth Holmes was a woman um wait are you saying Elizabeth Holmes is the phony she's the phony she started a company called Theranos so she was a Stanford dropout

um grew up really rich uh her dad was the VP at Enron and started this company called Theranos, which was basically like a blood diagnostic company. All of it was a lot. Like literally none of the technology. She like created quote unquote created technology didn't work. And she would just, she became a worth $9 billion off of all lies.

Oh, I think I was on that episode. Yeah. Yeah. Ryan Rucillo was on it. It was and she. And so they made a like limited series off of it that came out recently. Are you talking about the dance? Oh, yeah.

The one that she does. Yeah. And she was. The one that she does. for Sunny or the one that Yeah And then there's the other one When they get the HIV or

Herpes approved And then they're dancing there too Yeah She just would dance They they when they got their They're their their herpes testing Approved Approved they danced into can't touch this

Yeah And I've seen the real video of that That's actually She also changed her fucking voice Yeah She's so great She carries a fake voice She talks like this

and she wears bright red lipstick. Theranos is a... That sounds like Mantis. Theranos is a... It's a company. You know, we're changing the world like Steve Jobs. It's a combination of therapy

and diagnosis. She thought that she was Steve Jobs. She did. Yeah, she only wore black turtlenecks and jeans. And then when her whole company was under the microscope and they were being scrutinized because they didn't have anything that worked.

Yep. She came up with the new design. Like the new logo. The Edison. Well, no, no. The new logo for the company. The actual company. Was going to incorporate

like the Hindu principle of like it was some symbol that they used and she's like I think I've got this figure out. She got Yoda quotes plaster all over the office. Do or do not. There is no try. I love the dance that she does for Sunny because in the movie it's an apology dance. Yeah. Like Sunny is

mad at her. Yeah. And she does an apology dance for him. Oh and her weird vest. We should incorporate an apology dance when people fuck up on this podcast. Avery has to dance for us. You have to give us an apology dance. When Billy comes back. Yeah, Billy owes us one apology dance. when he returns and it's it's she's and she's so great too because so obviously she did a lot of

bad things jeff mentioned it earlier like she only she fucked with a lot of people's lives and i don't like that and that's why she's a phony and she's an awful person for that but just the way she exists is hilarious and then so she was dating sunday valwani who was like 20 30 years her senior and was he cheated on his wife with her then they like dated for 10 years or something they broke up. She got a hot husband and they had a baby. So she was a fraud. And they started dating after she was a fraudster.

So this hotter guy was like, yeah, I get it. I like her little style. That's how we were talking about. Like there's always women out there that will write letters to a guy that's on death row. Well, that's happening right now with that story came out. Though that was known, but that story came out about Martin Shrelly. That's how it came out. Yeah.

yeah yeah crazy that's it's like the opposite that i think guys version of that is just being attracted to fraudsters and she i love a woman like she just psychos her guys are attracted to anything that's also true her like her testimony's where she they basically had to be like did you do all of us and she was like i don't know like she's just like me maybe like she just can't own up to a single thing i like she's hilarious to me she is she is my girl boss and so i I love her. She's my favorite phony. Also, the dropout is such a great show, and it just makes me, like, laugh how great it is. Ariens giving you this look like, what, what are you talking about?

What? All of these people that were mentioning, like, we loat. Oh, I mean, she's an awful, awful person who was awful, awful, awful morals, and did terrible, terrible things. But my God, is she entertaining? Like, at the end of the day, like, she's a very entertaining person. You know what I mean? Like, I don't agree with her. I wouldn't do the same thing.

but she like became so fucking rich for it and she would in the show they would play certain songs to kind of bring you back she had a great like catalog of songs she would play in her little Prius like it was awesome anyways so that's my favorite girl boss also Warren Jeff's I'm watching

Keep Sweet Penel butt that's where you're losing me calling her a girl boss She is the girl but she is the penalty It does sound like you do love her actually She's a fucking clown man She's a clown but like I love I love how crazy town she is. Like, I don't love her

morals, obviously. You said, I wouldn't do the same thing, but you're like, but she's awesome. She's really rich. I enjoy everything about her. She's very poor now. Yeah, she's just like her mannerisms and everything about her is funny, but not what she did. That's not funny. That's bad.

So I'm against her, but she's funny. Anyways, Warren Jeff's, I'm watching Keep Sweet, Pray, and Obey right now. It's about the FLDS church. He was the one that originally got me into cults, which kind of me to where I am today. Crazy. And he's him and I'm going to lump in Joseph Smith, the founder of the Mormon church, also

big phony. You don't think that Jesus came back to Earth and like showed up in upstate New York? Buried a bunch of plates in Missouri. Yeah. Like those two both kind of kind of offshut into each other. So Warren Jeff's was basically the FLDS is an extreme, extreme, extreme sect of Mormonism. so he kind of got what he ended up doing from

the original Joseph Smith teachings just crazy like we all laugh and like yeah that's fucking silly but like the start of like every religion is equally as silly as shit yeah oh 100% I think I think in Islam they believe like Muhammad like flew on a winged

horse like up into the sky but but the all of its shit is silly though the FLDS is crazy to me because it's like they isolated their people and you know they don't let them listen to secular things and read secular things anymore or they didn't oh yeah they're awful awful people and they and just so much more modern too that's a thing it's like they're so new work and everything else yeah it was it's

like there are still FLDS members right now as we speak and they made I think that's a that's a oh sorry that's that's that's what that's a Christianity and Islam and jubed and has going for them is like it's been around for so long so it's harder it's like the game of telephone like it's hardly to balk after a while right there's no profits in in the 20th century like come on be real with yourself that's what made the book of mormons so good was like at the end a new religion got started through this game of telephone right and now they're like worshipping a guy that we all knew was a phony at the time and they i think they do they kind of recognize it's a phony that joseph Smith is a phony like i don't think anyone really the Mormons yeah i will say i do know

I know in Austin I didn't know any Mormon people until I moved to Texas and I went to school with a ton of Mormon people in Austin and I know they fucking love the show

the Broadway show Book of Mormon I love it really they love it I actually there was a there was this Mormon like couple on YouTube that did a series like talking about the things in it

and they were like well when they say you get your own planet like that's not entirely exactly how it is but like kind of and it was it was pretty funny the Mormon people that that I know personally are all very nice

yeah their families are all like super nice usually like very positive influences on the community I think they do a lot of good things for sure I think that's all very intentional too like they're very into social media now are they oh Mormon moms yeah Mormon women actually have like a very big they have a choke hold on section of social media and it's all like very intentional by the church. All about like families and stuff.

It's kind of how. Well, then they're hot. They're all really hot. The Israeli military takes all, because everyone in Israel has to join the military and they take all the hot women and like make them, their job is just to be on social media. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not saying all Mormon people are phonyes. I'm just saying Joseph Smith just was making shit up. And then Warren Jeffs is just an awful person who has snuck his way or snuck his way into being a quote unquote profit for the FLDS and his dad was. too and oh they're just awful people but i'm also watching if you haven't watched it yet watch keep sweet pray and obey the phlDS has always been very interesting to me it's the hairstiles that they put these poor women in is one of the biggest phony things of all time if they got out they just get clowned and wanted to go back because of how bad their hair is so yeah but

elizabeth holmes is my ultimate phony okay we've got she it's it's the voice for me for her yeah if you change your voice like that slam dunk phony yeah everything about her is a slam down she said committed to it too which actually not to not to keep giving her praise i do kind of respect if you're that psychotic you stick with it even after being found out as a phony it's like i got to cling on to that one thing so the new the brand new series on netflix about that girl what was her name the russian slash oh inventing anna delvi she who is i it's a fascinating story there's disrespect the fact she has a nickname it's the soho grifter and i wish people would more like she she she was fraud enough to get a nickname we

She'd use the nickname. The Soho Grifter, fascinating story. I hate the series, though. It's horrible. It's really bad. It's awful. I don't like that it makes... Shonda Rimes can make some really good shit and she can make some real bad shit.

I don't like that the journalist is like the protagonist of everything. Yeah. And it's just all the characters feel like their caricatures and it just, it's, it doesn't flow at all. And it doesn't do justice to the story. I said it feels like a Muppet movie without the Muppets. I don't know why. It's just how it felt. Yeah, you're right.

Jason Siegel. Yeah, it just felt like a, like they were all goofy. Yeah, they are. And the pacing of it is weird too. Yeah, it's not a good show. Really strange. Now, people hate on the accent. That is how she sounds like.

But that's what she sounds like. It's such a bizarre accent. She was on Call Her Daddy, though. Billy McFarland is in that show. Really? Billy McFarland makes a cameo. Not the actual guy, like the character Billy McFarland makes a cameo in that show. Got it.

So does Martin Screlly, yeah. What did she talk about and Call her Daddy? And what she did. and she called daddy's a lot different than when it was at a bar store she's not talking about her sex life anymore as much now it's like interview style but um she Alex interviewed her from jail like she had a Skype from jail and she was like so did you do this and she's like no and then she was like how's your dating life and she's like well it will probably be better when I'm out of jail there's a big TikTok audio about it that's a good question yeah but yeah no

Alex Cooper and Anna Delve are like this wow they're tight all right well that was phony's thank you for joining us thank you Jeff yeah happy I'll come back for Enron yeah we'll do the Enron one that sounds like a good time to me crazy shit with that I'll get us all shirts oh yeah all Enron merch yeah maybe we'll do like macrodosing by Enron merch yeah we can use the name Enron right tell me I don't know why are we doing this I'm not sure that'd be great for the arian in the Houston community that would I'm just saying why why are we wearing this merch they were pieces of shit too it's a big hipster ironic thing to wear now it's also very funny that that mad dog is like leading the charge on the in ron merch and she literally has no

idea what in ron did that's probably why i'm leading it because i just think they have a cool logo i have no idea what they did and ronald forthdenaker being president yeah that's that i mean a governor excuse me that's crazy that he was governor crazy people don't really talk about that crazy Gary Coleman ran for governor because of Enron. Yep. Thank God he did. I don't know anything. Do you know who introduced Arnold when he got elected governor on stage?

No. Jay Leno. And it comes full schedule. It's a crazy documentary, I'm telling you. It's a wild documentary. All right, guys, we will see you next week. Next week for another macro dosing. We'll get to your voicemails, get your Discord questions.

Discord's looking cleaned up, right? Yeah. it's getting there. I appreciate all the mods. I'm sure they're listening. Thank you mods for helping me out and Billy out. Yeah, it's getting cleaned up. We're running a tight ship over there now.

All right. See you guys next week. Love you guys. Bye. Thank you.