Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Prelude: Hillary Clinton

Episode Date: June 14, 2022

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the entire crew intros the Hillary Clinton topic as they plan to do a super episode on Wednesday. So today, you get a two hour "Nanodose". Following the day long sci...ence fair, everyone felt it would be better to wait and do the full scale Clinton topic on Wednesday. While introducing the topic for Wednesday, you'll hear everything from sneak peeks from the science fair to some great banter within the team as Arian is live in studio. You don't want to miss it. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. All right, it is macrodosing. Welcome back. We love you guys. Thank you for tuning in. We just got done taping the science fair in the office. I can't really get into details, but I had a great time.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Actually, it was fun, man. It was very fun. We had a macrodosing crew participating. We had Jersey Jerry, Nick. Tico 10, out and about, interns, and more and much, much more. Mincey, everyone. Everyone was there performing scientific experiments and look for that video coming out. Do we have any idea when it's going to be out?
Starting point is 00:00:43 I know we just got done taping it. Yeah, I'm going to try to get it out ASAP, like sometime this week. Oh, hell yeah. We got to pick our walk-in music. We do. Yeah, I'd like to get out on Thursday if I can. Oh, you know what? It might get struck down because it's going to be on YouTube, right?
Starting point is 00:00:59 No, no, I'll send you a link where we can do, like, non-copyrighted songs. Put one of my jumps on there. Hell yeah. You know that with that? Let's go. I'm down with that for sure. Imagine we get a copyright strike for that. It wouldn't come from me.
Starting point is 00:01:13 That'd be very funny. And that is Arian in the studio today. So Arian is here in New York. Facts, we are out here. And today's episode is brought to you by our great friends over at Three Chi. Three Chee's Delta 8 is a federally legal version of THC. It's a more functional alternative to marijuana. You guys know I'm not a drug guy.
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Starting point is 00:02:38 I mean, when walking with dinosaurs came out, like, way before I was even born and then watching that. And then looking back on those graphics and back then we were like, those dinosaurs look real. But now, like, 20 years later, those dinosaurs are real. That means that like 20 years from now, we're going to get a Billy football that grew up on a much. better dinosaur show than you did. Yeah. Like there's a whole generation of kids. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Whole generations of kids that are going to steal. Yeah. I'm going to steal your job. You're going to get a little taste of what it's like. So today we're going to do something a little bit different on today's episode because doing the science fair took us a long time. I think we were filming for about three and a half hours. So yeah, we're running out of time.
Starting point is 00:03:22 There's not enough time in the day to do a full like four hour episode of macro dosing and we want to get into like a real big one. Big T's done a lot of research on Hillary Clinton. So this, this was going to be the Hillary Clinton episode. We're going to, we're going to bump it to the nanodosing. So we're going to flip-flop. We're going to swap. We're going to swapcies it, as Billy likes to say. It's going to be a swapsies. And so we're going to have a super pod coming on Thursday. That's right. I said it. Macro dosing super pod coming on Thursday on Hillary Clinton. We just don't have the time to do that topic justice today. I know that Big T is going to be fired up to get into it.
Starting point is 00:03:58 I know Arian is too, because this is going to be an episode where I think Big T and Arian will have never been closer in their lives. Aside from a baseball game. Aside from baseball game. Yeah, Aaron and I at the baseball game. Are we going Tuesday? A great combo. I'll go.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I'm down. I think it's less Big T becoming a leftist and Arian is just turning alt-right. Yeah, I don't think that's the case. I think Hillary Clinton is just one of those figures that massages both sides of the Venn diagram. I mean, she's provably one of the most unlikable people in history. Yeah. It's like, yeah, the country.
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yeah, the country did not really want to vote for her. Three times. Demonstrably. Yeah. And the Democrat said, you know what? This our guy. Yep. Real quick.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Just to make sure Big T prefaces anything that happens between now and Wednesday where we do the show, Big T, in case he goes missing. I am not suicidal. exactly you heard it from there we had i told him i said big t you got it like because just in case something happens it's gonna go it's gonna go deep he doesn't he doesn't do any types of illicit drugs anywhere so if he gets maryland monroe you've never thought about self-harm uh well this is a tennessee just lost yeah they're gonna use this uh i have fairly recently but currently no okay yeah actually this would be the perfect time if hillary's if she's looking to add to the body account like the day after big tea after the after the Tennessee volunteers lose in the super
Starting point is 00:05:30 regionals that would be the perfect time I should probably delete the tweet with my face on it that says I wish death would find me and lay upon my shoulder at sweet release you're playing right into her hands what what poetry though I when I get um like suit not suicidal which I'm not when I get depressed I get very poetic wow I need I need a I need like a big tea book of Yeah. I like it. You should get them on a track. I won't go. I mean, how are you, how are you rhythmically? Let me tell you something. I want to call. Let me, let me see if he'll answer. I'll, I'll call young. Should I play the, uh, should I play him in the Harambe video? No, see that, like, those are jokes, but like, I am, I am known amongst my friends. And that shit was trash. Uh, I've, I've, I've, I've freestyled a time or two and, and come up with some bars that weren't too bad. So Bikty's got a good voice. I know he can whistle like a motherfucker He can sing
Starting point is 00:06:28 Okay You can you can hold a note Can you say that's a bold No he can say I can't say I can't hold I wouldn't claim that I can't hold a note I can't sing Like vibrato
Starting point is 00:06:37 I don't like A little bit He's got a little bit I don't say that I think I'm like an okay singer You can sing Rocky Top Let's I can sing a lot of things
Starting point is 00:06:47 You've sang Rocky Top on the show What's your favorite thing to sing? I mean I listen like almost exclusively to country music so okay mine is uh uh the jackson five uh who's loving you i walked around my as i was um contemplating what i wanted to do with the rest of my life or lack there of yesterday i just walked around my apartment singing whiskey lullaby by brad paisley do you know that song we don't i don't know it uh people people uh self-inflicked wounds in that song but um it's a beautiful
Starting point is 00:07:21 song and i just sang that like all day i got some good lyrics i couldn't I couldn't get it out of my head. Do you know it should have been a cowboy? No. Goat song. Great song. Do you know, you know any Alabama? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Wait, Alabama. They got some soulful shit, don't they? They do. Yeah, I heard like two or three of a song that's about Tennessee. It's so in the lyrics. Yeah, do you know. My favorite Christmas song is by Alabama, Christmas and Dixie. That's insane.
Starting point is 00:07:47 What about? That's actually insane. Do you know that song? No. It's a great song. It's not the great, the greatest Christmas song. I said it's my favorite Christmas song. Okay, well, I accept that.
Starting point is 00:07:56 I would contend it is, but... Got you. Do you know, I'm in a hurry to get things done? No. You don't know that one by Alabama? No. Wow. You got to familiarize yourself with their catalog.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Okay. It's a great song. So we're going to get into Hillary Clinton heavy on Thursday's show on the nanodosing. And so today we're going to switch it up. We're going to do more of a nanodosing vibe today. And then SuperPod coming out on Thursday. I'm pretty pumped up for that. So we get a lot of cleanup to do, though, a lot of stuff to do.
Starting point is 00:08:24 a lot of stuff to talk about. We've had a bad sports weekend for many members of this podcast. Avery's New York Rangers were sadly eliminated from playoff contention. Or I guess they were eliminated in the playoffs. Condolences. It was so bad. Do you have anything to say about the fan that got arrested for? Oh, that guy's a piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:08:45 What happened? I don't know why I have to like speak for that. Like that guy, you could pick one guy out of an 18,000 person arena. He's probably going to do. something stupid when the Rangers lose and that guy's just a real piece of shit. What do you do? Fill us in that aren't hockey fans. So there was like, I guess, bickering between him and a Lightning fan back and forth. The Rangers had lost, a frustrating loss for sure. By the way, Lightning might be the worst mascot name in sports.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You don't like it? It's trash. I don't mind Lightning, I guess. There's worse name, the commanders. I mean, think about it. I would take a Commanders over Lightning and this is why. any singular except for there's always an exception to rule any singular sports named franchise is trash except for the magic so his name what about the jazz
Starting point is 00:09:32 okay I retract that yeah there you go the two the lightning's mascots called thunderbug though trash the Oklahoma City thunder is worse than lightning lightning at least looks cool thunder is is a result of like yeah thunder sucks yeah thunder's ass I got also jazz sucks
Starting point is 00:09:48 because jazz does not suck Team? No, no, no, no. Team names that have nothing to do with the city they're in, I hate. New Orleans Jazz is a great name. New Orleans Jazz Rocks. Utah Jazz makes no sense. Yeah. It doesn't, but I still respect the name. Like the Los Angeles Lakers. It makes no sense. It makes so much sense. The Lakers? Yes. No, let me tell you why. Where are the lakes? Let me tell you why. All the championships that we have. It makes perfect sense. Okay, so they've just won themselves into it making sense.
Starting point is 00:10:16 That does make sense. We wet and dripping with championships. They've created a brand around it, but the name doesn't make sense. It makes perfect sense. Here's the sucker punch right here, Aaron. I was just sending it to the chat. But yeah, it's brutal. Oh, shit. Yeah, it's hard to watch.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Oh. I just, oh, that's sucker shit. Yeah, you're just a piece of shit if you do that. I don't, I don't mind fighting at sporting events because I, I'm an advocate for more violence in sports. But it's the sucker punch for me. Yeah, there's levels to it. Square up with him. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:49 I remember. One time I was in high school and the Chargers and the Raiders, this was in Raiders was in Oakland, Chargers of the Raiders played. And notoriously, this was like when you go there, we go into war fandom-wise. And the next day after the game, there was more arrests in the stand than there was Russian yards. That's crazy. Yeah. So, yeah, it was wild. That's just, that's just San Diego in Oakland, right?
Starting point is 00:11:14 That's just the West Coast rivalry we have. So I'm four altercations in sporting events, but square up. Square up, don't do the, don't know weapons. No weapons and square, no, no weapons. No knives, no guns. That's why the safest place to get into a fight is at the airport. Everyone's gone through security. Facts.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Oh, did you guys see that CFL player again to a fight with airport? Someone was working at the airport. That was crazy. I didn't, but I almost did once. Yeah, I think he was a former NFL player. Now plays with the CFL and he fought some guy at the baggage claim. Oh, but when he was dropping off his bags. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:48 And, dude, the airport guy ate tons of punches, went down and got up and kept trying to fight. Yeah, but that guy sucked at fighting. He just got his ass kicked. And it looked like the dude that worked for the airline was the one that was starting to fight with the other guy. He was like, come on, let's go. Send that to the chat too. And then just got his ass kicked. My experience was, you got to a fight?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Well, no, no, I was about to square off on his dude because I've been, I've been flying for years. And it's like, I maybe take. It's a sick brag. It's just is what it is. It was the part of my job. and plus, you know, the luxury that it came with, I fly a good 90 to 150 times a year. It's a lot of fly.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I'm in a lot of flights. Do you have a plane emoji in your bio? No. You should put one in there. I don't fly that much. It's always sick. No, that's a little flex. I don't like flex in it.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You know what I mean? I'm just reporting. I just like it when a girl's bio says like New York plane, L.A. I hate that. She's in both places. Bic coastal? Bicostal. Well, so there's like...
Starting point is 00:12:45 All girls are by. Scotty energy. There's a polar or coastal. There's a term for hockey players. It's called a pussy flare. It's when you always, wherever you're flying, like, wherever your team's flying, you just put an Instagram story of just a plane and where you're going. And like the women just from that state, just DM you.
Starting point is 00:13:00 Wow. It's called the Pflare. Pflare? Who taught you that one, Biz? No, well, I think it was, it was either biz or wit because Tyler Sagan on the Dallas Stars is, like, known for it. Like, every time he travels to a different city, he just puts him on his Insta story. I did see this. You saw this video?
Starting point is 00:13:18 Crazy. And buddy got, ooh, he got egged up. Yeah, it's bad. But, um, so, so I fly a lot. I go through TSA all the time. I understand the protocol. I could do it myself, right? So I'm going from Albuquerque to, I think, Houston maybe, been to the, been to plenty
Starting point is 00:13:37 airports all over. I'm getting checked at TSA. After I come through the baggage, I got randomly selected for, you know, extra screening. Cool. Had that happened plenty. times. I'm cool with that. So as dude is checking me, he's filling me up. And then he gets to my private part and he cups it. And he lifts and he cups. And I'm like, and I pulled back. And I was like, bro. And he was like, sir. And he needs you to stand still. And I'm like, you don't got to do
Starting point is 00:14:07 that. Like this is private screener, but I've been privately screened before. Like you don't have to do that. Like obviously there was nothing in the metal detective that said you needed to do this. And so I'm like, bro, like, don't do. that. Don't do that. And then he was like, sir, just stand still. I was like, all right, so he went and he did it again and he cupped. And I was like, fam, what the fuck are you? I was literally like, I told him, what the fuck are you doing? He said, sir, I'm going to need you to calm down. And I was like, bro, you're touching my nuts. Like, you're touching my nuts. And so I was like, oh, get your boss. I was like, oh, get your boss here. And the boss came.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I was like, bro, I've been screamed. I don't know how many times. This dude is wilding right now. And so we had gotten into an altercation. And the dude ended up letting me go, the superior. But it was like, I don't know. what his deal was. That was, he was cupping. You don't need to do that. They were looking for packages on the Gucci. It looked like it. Yeah. Yeah. Is that standard? I mean, it's happened to me before I had the same rate. Not like that, but I don't cut. Don't cut me, man. Because they're trying to check if you have like a package like between perineum. But you're not allowed to cup. That's illegal, isn't it? I don't know. I don't know where it becomes assault and where.
Starting point is 00:15:12 I felt sexually assaulted. I ain't know that. Yeah, where is that line? I feel like the cupping is almost like it's it's sensual and you don't need to bring that into the security line yeah he cut me on some like he liked it while we're on the topic of airports um if you want to get into teed off oh i have i have one that i feel passionate about this week let's go what are you teed off about all right so i was on an airplane yesterday um so i had a teed off and now it's going to be a two-parter because then i got off the airplane and there was one that's even worse if you are what i have a question for you because i was pondering this myself what percentage of american adults would you say at one point of another have flown into new york city
Starting point is 00:15:58 18 15 i say 15 15 mine was higher but a decent percentage everybody above the age of 18 is that what you're saying like when you're counting american adults yeah how many people have at one point been on a plane that landed in newark jfk it's a good question i i'm guessing 18 that might be conservative. I would have guessed higher. But anyway, a lot of people. Yeah, a lot of, I mean, that's still a shitload of people. Yeah. Millions. I, I'm on the plane back home yesterday. And you, you hear the pilot come on and say we're beginning our initial descent, which by the way means you're still 30 to 45 minutes away. I say 20 to 25. It takes, but it takes a minute. Sure. People start lifting up the shades. I mean
Starting point is 00:16:38 just gawking out the window, just waiting for like that two minutes where you can see. It's buildings, guys there's buildings here they're there you've seen the buildings a lot of times like in pictures and things it looks just like that they're buildings and then so then you finally get to the point where you can see new york city and everybody's just looking at the one first of all aren't going to be able to see anything that's true um and and so everybody's trying to figure out for a while which side they're going to be able to see the buildings on and then and it's it's so annoying they're buildings you're going to but okay let me let me bang for them real quick because when I first came to New York
Starting point is 00:17:15 my first trip to New York I was that guy so you're although it is a high person I would say a high I would say it's you know it's a good percentage of people that have flown into New York before
Starting point is 00:17:27 but if you're sitting in it don't matter where you're sitting a plane's filled what 300 people sure at the end of the day you don't know how many of those people are flying in for the first time or not
Starting point is 00:17:40 so let them enjoy their explain even if it is your first time time. You don't like the idea of them and looking at the windows. There's songs written about New York. There's an allure there. What about the Grand Canyon?
Starting point is 00:17:51 Because I've flown over the Grand Canyon before and it was awesome. I believe that's a natural majesty rather than buildings. Or define natural. What do you mean? Okay, so beaver's building a dam. Is that natural?
Starting point is 00:18:07 Sure. Are humans building buildings natural? I guess, but like there's a difference and something that's like created by the earth and then we were created by the earth some buildings i think big t is going for manmade versus not manmade right so what's more spectacular a beaver dam or the empire stable i guess i mean you could make the argument either way uh but they're buildings but that's not what you're upset why are you upset about about people looking at these what what people are looking over you okay it's just a whole thing yeah you got to respect
Starting point is 00:18:38 the space so that was going to be the teed off that was just the warm up okay i land And at JFK. Now, at JFK, when you get to your gate, you might be walking for 10, 15, 20 minutes before you you finally get out to like an Uber. There are some gates that are extremely far away. Yeah. So they have the moving sidewalk. So at JFK, you'll go through, you know, 8, 10 of those by the time you get to where you're
Starting point is 00:19:00 going. And it used to be, I'm old enough to remember, when they would say, hey, don't stop on the moving sidewalk. Keep walking. This is to help you along, but you are to keep walking on the moving sidewalk, right? And these things are the width of like this table. Now, apparently people have just bullied the airports into, there's a sign. It says stand right, pass left.
Starting point is 00:19:25 These things are the width of one person. And now you have assholes who have license to, I mean, people were just standing. And I was beside myself. I'm not a fan of the standing. I couldn't believe it. You keep walking on those. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw, I mean, I could, because it's. New York City and there are no rules, but just giving license to these people to stand. First
Starting point is 00:19:48 of all, you're slowing yourself down more than if you were just walking on the regular sidewalk. Yes. If you stand on the moving sidewalk, you are going slower than walking normally. I mean, one, 200% slower. And you're just, I was, I was beside myself. So you were unable to pass. Now, is it, is it the width of one big T or is it the width of, because you're a big guy? Probably one big T. Yeah. But I mean, I'm scooting by the. these people and it's just like what are we doing dude yeah i i always walk on those and the other day i was like i was passing people and i'm a smaller person myself so i was able to pass some of them and then somebody tried to pass me as i was passing another person yeah i'm with that and then it's
Starting point is 00:20:28 like wait i'm going just as fast as you are man i'm we're going the same place i'll be like your wingman i'll go ahead of you i'll kind of you can draft off me not leave your wingman never leave your wingman but yeah i'm sorry that that happened to you yeah terrible I'm a fan of the take of don't stand on moving walkways. I'm a fan of that. It's just lazy. It is lazy and it's, I think, it's like, just walk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:55 You don't have to walk when you get off this thing. Just walk, bro. Tell you what, you can even walk slower than you were walking previously. And you'll save some energy. You'll save some energy. Let the moving walkway carry you a little bit. Bill, you looked like you had something to say to the window conversation. I think it was very coastal leaders of you to say that.
Starting point is 00:21:11 I would agree with that take. Why? Because you're just assuming that, you know, people have been to the coasts. No, no, no. I don't care if you've been here before or not. I'm saying even if you haven't, it is a very unspectacular thing to see. So you're not impressed with buildings in general? I even like, like, architecture and things like that.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Like, if you were at the base of... Now we're getting into some... Like, if you're studying, like, the architecture of, like, one world trade center or the Empire State Building or something, that's, like, just looking out the window, it's... They're buildings. You'll see. I know, I love you, Big T, it's a bad take.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Like, New York City, New York City is the most beautiful city to look at it. It's one of the, it's one of the most recognizable. I mean, I guess from the air. From the air, absolutely. Right or wrong. It's one of the most recognizable skylines in the globe. Yes. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:21:58 So to see it from the vantage point of 30,000, 20,000 feet is a unique experience. How often are you up that high? And Big T, I might be way off base here, but you strike me as a statue of Liberty guy. No. You don't like Lady Liberty? She's not from America. I think it's very French. Yeah, very French.
Starting point is 00:22:19 It's kind of played out at this point. Used to be bronze. Now it's green. It's, I don't think it's that cool. Well, some people might want to see the Statue of Liberty if it's their first time coming into New York. I advise everyone, every one of my friends that comes here, we're not going to the statute of living.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Well, don't you don't have to go there. You don't have to take the-to- We're not going to Battery Park City to look at it. It's a waste of time. Go to Chelsea Pier. You can see it off in the distance. I promise. What's the perfect time to see Lady Liberty when you're flying, when you're landing?
Starting point is 00:22:46 I don't know. It's just a unique, I mean, a bird's eye view of a city. That's spectacular. Like, I don't know, man. But again, that was it with the walkways. This one, I, no, that was the warm up. That was the warm. That was, that was the driving range before teeing.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Got you. Now, Big T, is there any possibility that, like, your, your consternation and your level of, of being upset was impacted because you were flying back from watching the Tennessee Volunteers lose. It's entirely possible. I think you might have just been a sour mood. Well, I flew back Sunday morning. We haven't lost yet.
Starting point is 00:23:21 We were coming off a win. I wasn't there for the Sunday game. Thank goodness. Okay. Could be it. Because if I were in your position, I'd just watch that loss. I would hate everybody. If I had stayed for the game yesterday, I would have been very upset.
Starting point is 00:23:36 Yeah. All right. Well, that was teed off. Yeah, I also want to thank everybody for being really nice when the Rangers lost. Had a lot of Macrodosians in the comments in the tweet replies saying how they felt for me. It was tough. It's a really tough time when you invest a lot of your time and your life into a team. And then they don't make it a couple of them screenshots of the TV, bro.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I mean, yeah, it's cool. But I've always said, like, none of that really matters. Like, it's like a family thing for me. So, like, everything we do, we don't go on, like, big trips. It's just like Rangers all throughout. I love it. Yeah, it sucked. It was a really shitty day yesterday.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I did nothing but watch The Boys on Prime Video, which is an unbelievable show if you haven't watched it. So funny. It basically just makes fun of like superheroes and what they're about. I must watch show. I'm going to check that out. Yeah, very gory. I just saw, what is it called?
Starting point is 00:24:32 Uncharted? Yeah. Has Mark Wahlberg in it? Really Mark Wahlberg? Really? Like for real, Mark. Mark, are we sure about this? Can't confirm. It's really, he's really in there, right? Yeah. Him and Tom Holland, the best Spider-Man. He's the best Spider-Man. You think so?
Starting point is 00:24:46 Absolutely. Yeah. And that shit was awful. Uncharted? Yeah. It's like a treasure hunt movie. It's what it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it wants to be, uh, national treasure. I like a good adventure movie, but like, so they had so much potential, but it got so corny, dog. Oh my God. It got really bad. Well, it's, it's Based off a video game. I don't know what they based it off of them. I'm pretty sure. It was pretty cheap. Has there ever been a good movie that was based off a video game? Tomb Raider? Was that good?
Starting point is 00:25:17 I've never seen it. With Angelina Jolene? I've never seen it. I don't know if that was a good movie though. She's gorgeous though. She is. There's Mario Brothers. That movie sucks.
Starting point is 00:25:24 That movie was ass. Silent Hill. I never seen that. I think it was good for a horror movie. I don't know. I don't watch horror movies much. The Doom movie sucked. Did it really?
Starting point is 00:25:34 Yeah. There should be more video games. movies. I think there should be less actually because we haven't been able to find one that was good. Well, that could be more to the writers, man. I mean, think about like, think about if there was a dope. So there's this guy by the name of, oh, shit. What is his name? Hot damn Rick. Hot damn Rick or something like that on YouTube. He's been through a lot personally. Like, I followed him on YouTube for years. He's been through a lot personally. So he doesn't put out the kind of content he used to. It's like, like, comic. But it's like more like serious and introspective now. But
Starting point is 00:26:06 But when he did, there was, he did a series, I'm going to send it to the group. He did a series on Mario and Luigi, but like a more serious spin to them. Fucking brilliant. So I think it's just the perspective of, because the storylines are there for video games. Obviously it wasn't would be a good bit like Zelda. Imagine a good Zelda movie. You know what I mean? There's a game called Hitman, really big fan of the movie that they came out with for that.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I haven't seen that one. Yeah, it's a good one. I like the Mortal Kombat movie. Oh, that wasn't bad. That was a good one. I mean, bad acting, but it was good nostalgia. great soundtrack. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Moral Combine. I think there's an all-time like techno song. Yeah. I got two quick notes. First of all, I love this. I mean,
Starting point is 00:26:45 I think you got to get like an apartment in the city because this set up the visual of Big T and Billy with the table looks good. It's good stuff. It's good look.
Starting point is 00:26:52 I like you. Also, and then a giant announcement. If you're listening right now, 10 a.m. Merch. New merch. New merch drop.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Summer drop, Macrodosing. I don't even think I got to. I didn't even get the, is it the John's, which one? was Mr. Jones. Oh, it's everything we've sent.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yeah. Okay. Love it. There's a, there's a design you're going to see. It's the crew playing poker with aliens. Matter of fact, I don't, I, wear my shirt. We got to hear? We don't have.
Starting point is 00:27:19 I think I heard that get here tomorrow. They get here tomorrow. That's probably the best shirt that we put out. It is sick. There's going to be tank tops. And if you're listening, go to our Twitter page. Go to the Barstool store. Buy it so we can release swim shorts, swim trucks.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I will say, do we know who designed that? What? Let's just say I did. Who drew? the shirt. Oh, Francis. He's unbelievable. Okay. Yeah. It does awesome work and has done some really cool shifts. Yeah, he's done everything for this podcast. I heard from multiple people who don't know
Starting point is 00:27:46 each other, uh, that I was, I was done fairly dirty on that shirt and that I look like Bobby Hill. You do look like yeah, you do look a lot like Bobby Hill. Like, well, I mean, different people who know each other said I look like Bobby Hill. You do kind of, you don't not resemble Bobby Hill. Yeah. I feel like in real life I don't. Well, I feel like you're, you're way taller than Bobby Hill. but if Bobby Hill was an adult you would resemble him
Starting point is 00:28:08 all right I mean whatever it's fine but yeah it's not an insult no I mean dude Bobby Hill slayed he had a girlfriend he did have a girlfriend one of my favorite lines he ever said was it wasn't him it was about him
Starting point is 00:28:24 it was a shorty and he said Bobby said he likes me but he's not in like with me the only line I remember from King of the because I wasn't really like allowed to watch it but I've seen the clip several times since was and this is uh this was me yesterday when his uh Hank's friend is like up on his roof he says hey what are you doing putting in a satellite dish said nah I'm just up here to kill myself and I referenced that when uh when the vols do what they do I thought you looked good
Starting point is 00:28:58 in a design I thought he did a good job it looks like you the shirt is just looked like Bobby The shirt is very cool. No, yeah, it's going to be a great drop. We got different designs for the macrodosing logo with different colors now. The tank tops are going to be great for the summer. And if you keep buying, buying, buying, you're going to see a lot more cool stuff. Arrian has been pushing for swim trunks. And they said if they buy enough shirts for Arrian, we will do swim.
Starting point is 00:29:22 So let's focus on the alien shirt then. I think so. Let's push the alien shirt. Get that alien shirt. It's a fire shirt. I absolutely love it. And if we sell enough, we can do swim trunks. And just imagine.
Starting point is 00:29:33 The July 4th shirt is back in stock as well. A lot of you guys were looking at it from last year is back. Big T's wearing it right now. I actually lost a bet. I lost a bet to a Tampa Bay Lightning fan and I had to buy him a shirt. And he's like, I'd ask for a Tampa Bay shirt, but since you're a macrodosing guy, he asked for the USA shirt. So it's such a sick logo. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:29:54 It's about 6040 now. So 60, I still get, hey, man, you were a dog, man. You play ball really well to like 40 of like, hey, I listen to you on Matt. for those. So it's like it's starting to... There you go. Yeah. This is like Charles Barkley and doing NBA on T&T style. I definitely forget he's a whole of him or something. Yeah, no, Charles Barkley was nasty. Like he's one of the top powerfords of all time. And he could move. The dude was... And he was undersized. He was an athletic freak. Yeah. And then you watch him play golf now. He's ass. And it's like, wow,
Starting point is 00:30:23 the monster stole all your ability. That's crazy. That's wild. That was real life. That was a documentary. Avery, if it's any consolation, though, I feel like this is, you could make argument this is the season before the season for the Rangers because they're going to get better right yeah the experience they got this year is you know second and none and then they got the goaltender who I still think is the best in the league I agree with that can I can I share with you an experience from my own life that could help yep 2020 Atlanta Braves 3-1 lead in the NLCS same round that that the Rangers lost in blow that next year world champions that's why I love you big T Rangers was up 3-1 2-0 2-0 2-0 still pretty bad so
Starting point is 00:31:03 Now you just got to hope that your best – you got to hope that Igor tears his ACL next year, and then they're going to win if we're going to tie that into the Braves. That's what happened with Acuna. See, you just put a disgusting – I wouldn't wish that on you. I think you should hope for that. I also think it's a way different impact, completely different. Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Yes. But I do think that the Rangers are – they're going to be a very dangerous team because they're young and they've got a lot of great players. And they've got a core that's kind of like grown together. Yeah. And they've got an awesome goal to. or so and they don't really have to pay that many people this year like most of the most of their core guys are under contract yep so you can look forward to next year yeah it's just like the first day always sucks the first day after just like we had a actually we had a men's league softball game the
Starting point is 00:31:50 next morning and i played and i just like wanted to do something great so like i tried to make this running play and i call the i call off the other outfielder who clearly should have caught it miss the ball sat myself the rest of the game just sat in my face just not in a good headspace yeah hands and face just like awful it was it was a really bad day it made a bad day even worse well tell you what next year we'll go to a ranger's playoff game with you will support you as long as it's not against the capitals yeah because game time is going to hook it up game time's been hooking us all up with great tickets uh we went to that baseball game the other the other month like a month ago, right?
Starting point is 00:32:27 Had an awesome time, learned a new gambling, a new way that you can gamble on. I'm going to the Yankee game tomorrow. Oh, yeah? Maybe. You should use game time. Hit up game time.
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Starting point is 00:33:43 Anybody else have anything pressing they want to get off their chest? Congrats, Koli. Congrats to Koli. Yeah. Yeah, everybody can, everyone log on to Twitter.com right now and congratulate Koli on the sex. You know, it's crazy is his kid was born on a day that the Boston Celtic is about to take a hell. That sucks. Oh, that's tough.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Or you can make the argument that babies are always good luck. Did you ever notice that in the NFL? Because I've been tracking it for about a year now. And every time a player has a baby, they score a touchdown that week. You never noticed that? All my babies were off-season. Yeah. Responsible teammate.
Starting point is 00:34:23 Mm-hmm. I should have had them during this. How'd you do in week ones? I don't think I've ever had a bad week one. There you go. It's because you got the baby power behind you. With that matter of fact? Have I had?
Starting point is 00:34:36 No, except for 2013. I had a bad week one. Did you have a baby that off season? I did. Uh-oh. Yeah. But yeah, I've noticed that if they have a baby during the week, I think there's something like subconscious.
Starting point is 00:34:49 If you have a baby, everyone's like pumped for you to get back in to the gipper. You know, when they come back in and everyone's like giving you high fives and stuff and then you're just like front and center of everybody that week and everyone's paying attention to you and then on Sunday the officer coordinator or the quarterback might be more likely to look your way if you're a wide receiver or tight in so just something that I've noticed so maybe maybe this baby will bring good luck to Boston tonight yeah 2013 week one uh was against the san diego chargers was hometown game 18 attempts for 57 yards yeah not great yeah no i was also coming off of
Starting point is 00:35:23 I had back I had back back surgery six catches though if you have PPR was facts what's your
Starting point is 00:35:30 what's the best game you've ever played statistically or just like in your in your mind I would probably say there's two
Starting point is 00:35:38 I would probably say statistically I play against Tennessee 2014 I had 100 rushing and receiving
Starting point is 00:35:48 that's pretty good and then 2014 I think it was game one we played Washington I only had 100 yards like a 103 yards but when I watched the film back I was moving the best I've seen myself move I think I remember that game I got I got I got yards that weren't there I think I remember that game I was really mad at you yeah it was fucked up what you did come full circle yeah uh you probably hated dray then oh yeah 2010 that immaculate reception yep I certainly that sucked Yeah. That game sucked. I remember I had 75 and 75 of that game. Do you remember, like, most of your stats? No, but some stick out to me because that was the game after my first NFL, like, opening season start.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Do you remember that game in, like, 2000, I want to say it was 2013 maybe against the Jaguars, where they scored a Hail Mary? No, that was 2010. Oh, that was 2010. Oh, I remember vividly, yeah. Yeah, it was a Hail Mary in the last. At least, we lost in the final, like, two or three possessions that year, because that was the year I led the league in Russian. We lost in the final, like, two or three possessions, I think, like, eight games that year. It was insane.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Like, we were, we lost, like, I think within six points, like, I think it was like six or seven games. And we went six and ten. So now you're throwing your defense under the bus. Did you notice how he threw in there that he led the league in rushing? I did. But we lost all these games. Now, I heard you talking earlier. You can draw whatever inference you like.
Starting point is 00:37:19 I'm just saying I got. to show up and do my job, and I did that. I heard you talking to Jersey Jerry earlier because he was telling you about how Aaron Donald's not the best defensive player, and you were saying that stats don't really tell the full story. So would you point that at yourself, too, when you led the league in Russia? No. What's that?
Starting point is 00:37:42 Some stats can be inflated. Like, let's say, this is why the most overrated stat in football, I believe, is yards per carry. And the reason why is, let's say you have a. a squad who is down a lot, right? They play from behind a lot. Well, you're going to get a running back who plays with, uh, who gets, uh, carries with a lot of people with six in the box, five in a box where they're playing for like second or third down and longs, right? You're going to get eight, nine, ten, a wop, right? Because there's nobody there to defend that. And so that inflates your yards per carry numbers. Whereas a runnerback who is a, uh, a true third, a three down
Starting point is 00:38:16 running back who plays first, second, third down, you're going to get a lot of short yard to carry. You're going to get the third and shorts. You can get the fourth in shorts. And you get one or two yards. You may get the first down, but it brings down your yards per carry. So the efficiency is high, but the yards per carry isn't, right? And so yards per carry is not a real good indicator of how efficient a running back is.
Starting point is 00:38:34 What about your offensive line? Was there one line or like one lineman in particular that you were like, I love running behind this dude? I had a good line pretty much all throughout my career. Um, uh, they loved me because I knew how to run behind them. So what I mean by that is a lot of running backs are kind of like, they don't have a very good vision. That was my best attribute as a runnerback was vision. And so when I ran, I blocked for the second level, meaning I knew who was supposed to block who.
Starting point is 00:39:07 And so I knew how to set up my blocks. So I would press what they call press the line. And I made the defense play honest and I would cut off of them. And so it was easy for them, easier for them to block for me because they knew where I was going to be and I knew where they were supposed to be. And so, but to answer your question, I think my favorite lineman was Duane Brown. Duane Brown was a preennial all pro. He's with the Seattle Seahawks now. Just and all around just really did his job, pass, run.
Starting point is 00:39:35 He's just versatile. You think it was helpful at all that you were pretty slow? So it gave them more time to get in front of you, make their blocks as opposed to like a real, like if somebody ran a four? 4-3, 4-4, they would end up just like kind of running into the ass of their linemen. Got you were, what, like a 4-7 guy, 4-8, so it gave them more time to set up their blind. Well, when you look at the film, my dog, I'm running off on people who ran a 4-3. You had pad speed. No, I was fast.
Starting point is 00:40:01 It was just when they filmed that thing, I was hurt. So you can say that shit all you want to, PFT. I'm trying to compliment you. I was a compliment. And for all those young running backs out there, slow two, fast through. there you go that's like levy on bell right yes slow too fast he was almost too slow
Starting point is 00:40:20 sometimes I think his style ended up biting him in the ass dead on if you don't have a great offensive line if you're slow too they can really blow up on well if you don't have there's a lot of factors right
Starting point is 00:40:33 so a lot of running back so like Barry Sanders his 2000 yard season right his 2000s the first two or three games I think he was held at like 50 yards and the reason why is because they was running an offense that had seven, eight men in the box, but the offense coordinator said, let's run where we more
Starting point is 00:40:50 than likely have six in the box that opens up the defense. Now you give you man more room to get busy, right? And so when you have outside threats, it opens up. It's why, like, Chris Johnson's 2000-year season, right? He had Vince Young. Vince Young is an additional threat that the defense has to account for. And so when you have different factors involved, it opens up your options is a running back, which is why, like, when you look at, like, an Adrian Peterson, he was so special because he didn't have that many threats in his offense. He had, like, Christian Ponder. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:21 Maybe the worst quarterback of all time. If you just look at the numbers, maybe the biggest bust, the biggest draft bust of all time. I don't mean to single him out for no reason whatsoever. You did, though. Yeah, he was bad. He was very bad. They also had that one year where it was just like a rotating cast of quarterbacks. And what was the name of the wide receiver that they had playing running back for him?
Starting point is 00:41:42 in the playoff game. Was that Cordell Patterson? No. What team is this? The Vikings. Shit, I can't believe I forgot. Person of Garvin?
Starting point is 00:41:48 No, I can't believe I forgot the guy's name. I don't know who he's talking about that. I think he started a playoff game for him. This is going to kill me. Like I know. At run a back?
Starting point is 00:41:56 No, he started at quarterback. It was a wide receiver that started the game at quarterback. I don't know. I didn't know. Oh, it was a quarterback. I mean,
Starting point is 00:42:02 it was a wide receiver started a quarterback. Yeah. Wasn't it? I remember this. I don't remember. It was his name Greg? No, no, Joseph Webb. Joe Webb. Oh, okay. He's Joe Webb. Did Joe Webb play receiver in the NFL? Because he was a quarterback in college. I think, did he go to ECU?
Starting point is 00:42:19 Joe Webb. Or it's a purple team. He was technically a quarterback because he played some quarterback in the NFL. But he was a six-round pick. Oh, he's drafted in the Tom Brady slot, $199 overall. What school? UAB. UAB. And then let's see. Who was the ECU quarterback I'm thinking of? one of the most bizarre things ever seen in the NFL there was a dude who went to Michigan and got drafted by Jacksonville and he was just like an all-purpose like a slash player receiver quarterback running back everything he didn't tie his shoes what yeah DeNard Robinson yes yeah he I remember that he didn't tie his shoes offensive weapon in the NFL he never tied his shoes I mean I was like bro what I remember his first game when he did kick return and they zoomed in on his shoes
Starting point is 00:43:09 And I was like, that's dangerous. Yeah, it's the weirdest shit I've ever seen. Like, how are you making cuts like that? I never understood it. He wore them like a size or two too small. That might be. Because it was something like, and I think the story was when he was in like Pop Warner, he couldn't afford new cleats for like the first game of the season.
Starting point is 00:43:26 And then he had an amazing game playing in untied shoes that were too small. And then he just always did it. Yeah. I bet his feet. His nickname was shoeways, wasn't it? Yep. I don't know his nickname. But that makes sense.
Starting point is 00:43:36 He's also on the cover of the greatest video game ever made in CWA. football 14 it's true what about the best the best run that you ever had individual run yeah i don't know none of my runs were really like iconically like oh he got out of what he wasn't supposed like my style was more like one cut go like you were smooth yeah it was very smooth and so i think what you probably wouldn't never saw it um we were playing carolina 2011 and i caught a screen pass with one hand and there was a dude on me and as as i'm catching the ball i fill them on me and i spin and then i i get out of that and cut up i doubt i doubt you'll be able to find it um it's 2011 i'm looking it up right now i'll see if i can't track it down yeah
Starting point is 00:44:23 not too comparable but one of the sickest runs i ever had just because it was weird just because it was weird talk to me bill is it was a fourth and one and uh we called the quarterback sneak and we were on R40 and I kind of like I remember just watching Tom Brady doing quarterback sneaks and he doesn't go through the A gap. He sneaks behind the guard sometimes and then
Starting point is 00:44:48 he tries to go B gap so I did that and our tackle had sort of drop he he blocked inward so then everyone thought I was in the pile and I just kind of snuck out of the pile and just took it 60 yards. Peyton manned it. Yeah
Starting point is 00:45:03 so that was crazy. So if you If you type in, I was looking up Arian Foster one hand you catch. One of the first thing that comes up on Google is what is Arian Foster doing now? So let's find out. Foster decided to become a hip hop artist and rapper. Which one are you? Are you a hip hop artist or are you a rapper? Somebody white wrote that.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Without a doubt. What would you consider yourself? I think you're a musician. Yeah, I wouldn't, I don't know. I guess it's for whoever to decide. I just enjoy making music, having a blank template and then creating something out of thin air, out of my thoughts and my emotions. Like, that's how I would describe it.
Starting point is 00:45:44 And then one of the other things that comes up here is an article by the title, Arian Foster can rap for real. It was a bit surprising when the man who doesn't believe in God paraphrased a quote from the Bible to explain why he's so enamorant with different viewpoints, even if at times it uncomfortably challenges them. I'm not a person who shies away from opposition or opposing thoughts. The good old Bible says iron sharpens iron. You get around people who have been cultivating their opinions for years,
Starting point is 00:46:10 and that's inspiring to me. That explains why you get along so well with Big Tea. That's facts. Iron sharpens iron right here. That's right. I would like to think myself pretty unbiased. Any viewpoint I hold is because I've researched it, and that's the conclusion I can't believe.
Starting point is 00:46:25 But if evidence is presented to me that is contrary to my belief, I will change it. I don't have any, because my, my loyalty is the truth. It's not to my opinion. There you go. Loyal to the truth.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Anybody have anything else they want to get off their plate right now? Anything been weighing on? Billy, what's on your mind? I feel like I've, I had, like,
Starting point is 00:46:47 going into this, like yesterday, I had so many things I wanted to talk about, but it's just been such a long day. I forgot all of them. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Yeah. You need the notes. You need a C4. You need some of the super brain. Yeah, I drank a bunch of it's like, I've been doing stuff for the science first since,
Starting point is 00:47:00 like 9 a.m. This morning. Is that true? Can we fact check that, Avery? That is confirmed cap. What do you talk? I was literally, I got up this morning and I went to Chinatown to try to find frogs. You went to Petco, Billy.
Starting point is 00:47:13 Yeah, because the place in Chinatown. That sounds cool, Louie, the place in Chinatown. Because I wanted to get them in Chinatown, but the place wasn't open. So then I went to Petcoe and got some, you know, generic-ass corporate frogs, which are on the table. These are corporate frogs. These are corporate frogs. I wanted to go get some indie-ass frogs from some, like, off the. You can ask my good friend Connor here.
Starting point is 00:47:32 We were getting a little nervous. Well, because I was out running Aaron and trying to get some frogs. No, that's big T. Well, I was running errands to get frogs. I only got here at 11 because it took me, you know, like 45 minutes to get to Chinatown. Then I had to get up from Chinatown. Billy also said in the group chat last night that he would be there at 8 a.m. He definitely said that.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Well, I got moving at 8 a.m. He woke up at 8 a. I was out of R.M. There was a 30-minute stretch where Avery and I were concerned as, to the future of the science fair. It turned out amazing. Yeah, it was great. It was awesome.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Now, I didn't want to call Billy out there, but Billy, you can't help yourself, but like get in your own way. Everybody knows that you did a lot of work to help out with the science fair today, but you didn't have to be like, I've been, I've been working since 9 a.m. When there's multiple witnesses here that can attest to the fact that you were not at work until 11. I wasn't here, but I was doing stuff. Anyway, that's the point.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I actually was using that as a segue to talk about this place in Chinatown that sells aruanas which go for like two grand a piece to these giant fish that are like a symbol of wealth in chinese culture so there's this place in chinatown where you can get them and they sell tons of different exotics and they don't let you take any pictures in there but i was like looking for some killer frogs in there but they weren't open in time it's right next to the meat market where sometimes they sell alligator me's dachshin them yeah i'm not dachshundum but like back chinatown used to have tons and tons of wildlife until they started cracking down on I don't want to say like 2004.
Starting point is 00:48:57 That's like they should, bro. But when they, that's when they, they were selling like the quarter size red-eared sliders, the turtles in the baby. I like how you dropped that. Like we all knew exactly what you were talking. The red-haired sliders. Anyone who went to Chinatown before 2004,
Starting point is 00:49:14 whenever they started cracking down on it, it was a very commonplace thing. Okay. If you've been to Chinatown prior to 2004, you remember the red-eared sliders, let us know. Dude, sometimes you could even buy crocodile hatch, alligator hatchlings. That sounds extremely dangerous
Starting point is 00:49:27 That might be the dumbest shit somebody You know what I'm glad they cracked out on that I'm okay with that I'm okay with yeah Big T's okay with that government overreach right now I'm not a fan of the government telling me what animals I can and cannot own That's insane If outlaws can have
Starting point is 00:49:41 Alligators then only You don't believe that shit No I don't I'm about to say you don't wait wait I should have I should be cool to have a fucking lying in my backyard If alligators are outlawed Then only outlaws will have alligators Exactly
Starting point is 00:49:51 And you know I think we need sensible alligator reform You know, it's the only thing that can stop a bad alligator for me? You're trying to take my alligators for me. I don't think that you should buy an alligator as, like, as an egg or right after it hatches. What if the government has alligators? I need alligators to fight back. No, no, exactly.
Starting point is 00:50:08 The only thing that can stop a bad guy with an alligator is a good guy with an alligator. So what happens, though, like, I would imagine that about 90% of people that buy a tiny newborn alligator. Are psychos. Well, no, tons of people used to do it. That's why there's gators in the sewage system. Exactly. I think that 90% of them end up flushing those gators down the toilet. I am convinced that over 90% of the population is insane. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:34 But if 90% of the population is insane, are they really insane or are the 10% insane? No, they're insane. Because, I mean, think about what's normal. It's a good point, though. Well, normal doesn't necessarily mean okay. It's just the norm in the group. Yeah. Am I insane or is everyone around me insane?
Starting point is 00:50:55 Easily, yes. You're a little bit. No, everyone around me is insane. Regardless of your... You're the only sane person in the world. I know. Regardless of your insanity and your late showing of the event, I will say you did a great job.
Starting point is 00:51:06 You got all the materials. Mad Dog, too. They helped set it all up. It was a really great show. I can't wait for you guys to see it. There is a moment in this show. I'm not going to give away a lot, but there's a moment in this show. I've never laughed as hard.
Starting point is 00:51:18 Like, you'll see the camera visibly shaking because I was laughing so hard. It was comedy, man. Yeah. Aaron getting to meet some of the guys. around the office was awesome especially in this one part that like it was I think Aryan's like first time interacting well no you met him a little bit this morning but
Starting point is 00:51:33 it was it was an all-time moment comedy can't wait real quick on these frogs I don't know enough about frogs can can they I mean they can be submerged in water forever um xenopus uh xenopus uh the frogs of the species xenopus one of these things
Starting point is 00:51:51 well no I mean now you're scaring them uh oh I'm scared them yeah do you think it has anything to do with them being like putting in a glass this thing has a move from okay there you go uh african dwarf frogs are of the genus xenopus which is a totally aquatic frog um their latin name is is it's not xenopus no it's uh xenopus lavish is africed so do they also breathe air too uh yeah they breathe air but they're totally aquatic you can keep them in um water uh fish tanks i'm actually oh no i'm well is this dude have a hunchback Oh, that's a female
Starting point is 00:52:25 The female's a little larger You just misgender the frog I did Yeah I don't know Why did Billy know that so quickly Because those are the ones that get fucked Oh you know what
Starting point is 00:52:39 I actually lie to you guys They aren't of the So African claw frogs are xenopus lavish So are you by the drownies No these are No they're They're actually have a different Latin name But have you ever seen
Starting point is 00:52:54 Are they still aquatic as well? Yes. Okay. They have been in this beaker for at least five hours. They're doing fine. Okay. But have you ever seen Suriname Toads? I have not.
Starting point is 00:53:04 I think I have. They're the ones who have eggs on their back. They are of a similar species from the family Pipita. I have not. It's actually really cool. You'll probably seem in a nature documentary, but the females have their eggs on their back and then they hatch out of their back. So, and they're also totally aquatic.
Starting point is 00:53:22 The Suriname toad. Yeah, very interesting species. Scientific name Pippa Pippa. Yeah, native to South America. Interesting. All right, so we have frogs. That's your clue of one thing that's in the science fair that we're going to be putting out. Billy went out and bought frogs in Chinatown at Petco.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Well, basically, I went to Chinatown, the place was closed, then I had to reroute to Petco, went to Petco, got some corporate ass. Well, actually, the Petco wasn't in China. Holy shit. So you didn't even get the frogs in Chinatown. The story unravels. Just fucking hell. But I was in Chinatown. That's so Billy.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Actually, one time, actually, I think this would be a great magnetosing video. Can we get a hidden camera and I'm just going to go find like super exotic wildlife? I'm going to go out of living and say no to that. No, but like underground type shit that like you can't buy. You're going to docks people. I'm going to blur out all the faces. Wait, so Billy, did you actually make it to the pet store in Chinatown or did you discover that they were not going to be open at 9 o'clock when you were like on your way there?
Starting point is 00:54:22 I looked up the place on my way. So he didn't even go to Chinatown. I did go to Chinatown. You typed into Google Maps the name of, like, you search for a pet store in Chinatown. Well, I knew it was by Pearl Street. Then you clicked on it. And then he said, oh, they're not open right now. So I'm not going to go there.
Starting point is 00:54:37 So that was you going to Chinatown. Yes. Okay. So not only did. I got off the train. So what neighborhood did you get the frogs from? But hold on. Oh, flat iron.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Why did we mention Chinatown? Because it's a better story. It's so easy You pull on like one small thread in Billy's story And the entire sweater unravels I just I just wanted to talk about the ariwanas in Chinatown Which you didn't even see But you were also talking earlier today
Starting point is 00:55:07 About you going to Chinatown this morning I was convinced there was a pet co in Chinatown Was confused Well I tried to go to Chinatown No you Billy went to Chinatown on Google Maps On street view That's hilarious though
Starting point is 00:55:20 Oh my But I'm definitely going to go there for me. I need to get a hidden camera. And then I'm going to, I'm going to, because it turns out. Like, there's a rumor that, have you ever heard of Japanese giant salamanders? Are those, did you know, that fight? No, no, that's the fighting fish, which they also sell. They sell the actual, so if you go to that sword, they sell the actual, not like your, like, Petco pet store type fighting fish.
Starting point is 00:55:41 They sell, like, the professional fighting fish that are bred still for fighting that you actually can't buy legally. Okay. They're, like, actual, like, straight from Japan. They're flying these things, like, on planes. and they cost like thousands of dollars. That's got to be so confusing if you're a fish to get on a plane. Yeah. I'm looking at the Japanese giant salamander right now.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Have you heard that a philosophy joke? I'm going to fuck it up. But it's about fish. No. And so there's one fish and he's swimming along. And so the fish joins him. And he goes, water's nice today, huh? And the other fish goes, what's water?
Starting point is 00:56:17 Ah. Whoa. Makes you think. It does make you think. Wow. I'm going to let the listeners marinate on that for a second. Yeah, marinate on that. But anyway, there was a rumor that you could buy a giant, a Japanese giant salamander in Chinatown. There was a rumor.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Yeah. Like there's, some guy had a bunch of them in his basement and he's selling them 50K each. Where'd you hear this rumor? From a guy in Chinatown. Which you've never been. I've been to Chinatown a lot. I don't even. I'm questioning. I believe that Billy's been to Chinatown because he, he remembered the red-eared sliders that they sold prior to 2004. Wait, let's back up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:56:52 When were you born? Before he went to the Avatar premiere by himself in Times Square, where he went down to China Town and was looking at turtles. I probably was in 2004 wildlife. When were you born, Billy? 99. So you were a five-year-old. You were in Chinatown.
Starting point is 00:57:11 No, because you're looking at your exotic fish. Yeah, your parent, inside China, not China's New York City. It wasn't 2000 probably. It was probably later. I think so, five-year-old, Billy. but like my parents would take me down there and I wanted to buy the fish most kids wanted to go to chucky cheese or like to a baseball game or something but it was like will you please take me to China town to look at the the turtles
Starting point is 00:57:34 take me where take me where the fish ain't legal ma show me the good fish you know that good shit can't get here I don't think it was 2004 it might have been like 2000 it wasn't 2000 I'm gonna go out of them to say I know but I just just remember there was a case in 2004 because that was when the tiger is very different from if you've been to chinatown prior was when that uh that guy in the um housing project had a tiger and a crocodile oh i remember that i think that was 2004 and that's when the law got passed and i was shout out to that law yeah great law yeah great law thank you congress you know what's going to be crazy if an apocalypse does happen and like all the animals escape the zoo there's going to be more
Starting point is 00:58:19 lions and tigers in America and like large predators walking around here than in their native countries. So what's going to happen is like the continental United States is going to return to how it was in the prehistoric era when you had gigantic megafauna running around. No. So like think about it. Imagine you're an apocalyptic scenario to trying to survive and you have to literally deal with tigers and lions and shit in America. You wouldn't tell, when people just shoot them? One, two, uh, they have to, uh, they have a specific environment that they are comfortable in and so outside of their zoo environment the majority of those animals are not going to be able to thrive no they're going to depend on
Starting point is 00:58:59 humans and probably they're going to die i the thing is i think they're a little more adaptable than you give them credit for because yeah all those animals survived in the continental united states before there was no lions in the u.s you want to make a bet in the united states of america they're reliance yes where i think you got to bet them first yeah you got to place the money me okay i'm not i'll go i will say i'm not sure but i'm skeptical but i will bet let's bet what you want to bet what's your favorite drink what you got on you i i got a little i got a little something on me uh 30 raccoise light bet and you you give me a uh a bottle of camus still owe the show a fine for being 45 minutes you never said what it was dog uh me and billy just i don't know
Starting point is 00:59:43 let's get let's get food tonight i'm down we'll we'll figure something out all right drinks at the baseball game tomorrow. We got to get them tickets, though. Yeah. Wait, are we actually going to a game tomorrow? I'm going. I'm down. Wait, who's playing?
Starting point is 00:59:58 Who cares? Who cares, bro? It's a baseball game. I was just wondering. Nobody cares about that. Yeah. So, Billy, tell me about these lions that exist in the United States, allegedly.
Starting point is 01:00:09 And where we're... The American lion, Panthera A-Trox, also known as the North American Lion or American Cave Line, is an extinct panthering cat that lived in North America during the Pleiostone epic and early hell. You moved the goalpost on me, Billy. There's lions in America.
Starting point is 01:00:25 You moved the goalpost on me. How? I asked if there were lions. You gave me a lineage of a large cat that was in America. I never said there was no cats in America. No, no. The American line was much closer to the modern day line. And it lived in North America.
Starting point is 01:00:42 There was lions in Europe. There was lions everywhere. And once humans showed up, that's when a lot of the megafauna is going extinct in these places. So this is crazy. It says that it was 25% bigger than the modern line. Yeah. So it's even bigger. Okay. I stand corrected. Yeah. And I owe you. What do I owe you? Uh, you owe all of us dinner. You owe Billy 30 beers. 30 cores lights. I really should ask for more. You got it. You got it. You got it. I'm a man of, uh, damn. There were. Yeah. Wait, well, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think they existed. I think they existed like
Starting point is 01:01:18 pretty like recently comparatively but also oh did you hear that story about the sloth bear in India? There was North American no I did not wow yeah I love learning new things I know and you know where else there was there's like tons of
Starting point is 01:01:34 wait you can't just don't move on from the sloth bear oh yeah no the sloth bear went nuts in India and killed about like four people and I went on a deep dive on sloth bears sloth bears like they will take on Siberian tigers. Sloth bears have said to be way nasty. It looks like a Wolverine. Yeah, it's a little
Starting point is 01:01:53 more of like a, like when you look at that type of bear, you're almost expecting like a panda type vibe. Like, oh, this is like a pussy ass bag. No, he looks like a wolverine. Yeah, but these things fight tigers in their natural habitat. And for the first I think the first documented case of them attacking
Starting point is 01:02:09 humans recently came about. And that's wild. That is crazy. Have you ever heard about cave bears, short face bears no now they are gigantic bears so back in the same time that there was american lions there's these bears in north america that were literally probably let me look up the exact cave bear size you know what i'm i'm intrigued with is uh life on planet earth developed strictly for this ecosystem right and so when you think about life on other planets like what kind of features would
Starting point is 01:02:46 they have because of like say it's a say life developed in another place where there's like nitrogen in the air or something like that like what kind of creature would would develop because of that ecosystem you know what I mean that's what I think alien movies always neglect is the environment that the one thing I think that got it right was the cephalopods on um I think it was a rival oh yeah I think they got it right because cephalopods are are are well it was a very distinct um like when you look at octopuses like that's the one animal in in the world where scientists are like maybe came from outer space like on a on a rock or some shit and did we talk about how they're classifying them as intelligent beings and that they can't have that much lab testing
Starting point is 01:03:29 done on them they are they're insanely intelligent and so they they're having to i think there's a study in uk and they're trying to figure out how exactly smart uh cephalopods are in order to determine whether they can do so much lab testing on them so they're classified are they going to classify them in like insect trials like because that's what they're currently type of rights they have really like fish and insects and they're now like we need to put them in the level of great apes no question for yeah they're extremely intelligent here's a getting back to that point about how different animals evolved the reason why Africa is one of the only continents with megafauna so like large elephants large like tigers lines is because um
Starting point is 01:04:09 in all the other parts of the world all those megafauna didn't evolve alongside humans, whereas the ones in Africa did. So they now survived because they've adapted to humans. Whereas in like North America, in all the other places that were there before humans arrived, they had never adapted to humans. So they were easier to kill. Yeah. So that's why they think the mammoths went extinct because humans showed up in place like North America, Europe, and just killed all them. But the other animals, they like, they evolved alongside so they started gradually learn
Starting point is 01:04:44 don't hang out don't hang out don't fuck with them yeah they suck don't go on that side like for example their gestation periods are much faster
Starting point is 01:04:51 like elephants have a much faster gestation period than like mammoths did so they didn't repopulate fast enough to compete with how many were being killed
Starting point is 01:05:01 by humans but the American bison on the other hand took advantage of all the environmental niches left by all the like large
Starting point is 01:05:11 mammoths like large camels that lived in North America and they just since they reproduced faster they survived and then there was a huge boom in their population before the Europeans showed up wow wow Billy go off that was yeah you want to hold it right there go off and that was that's that's that's the greatest description I've heard of humans was from the matrix and it was by the the computer and he said the only organism that is comparable to humans is the virus everywhere they go they kill the ecosystem and they need a host yeah man humans are a
Starting point is 01:05:49 virus i like some of them though yeah there's some good viruses yeah there's some decent viruses 99% i'm straight off of but one percent of y'all out there fuck with you yeah just people that listen to this podcast i got to go off so about 3 700 years ago so the last mammoths died on the Wrangell Islands in Siberia, and they met their demise, 3,700 years ago, which is, which is mad recent, because I think literally there's man, like, I need to do my math rate, but 3,700 years ago, I'm pretty sure the pyramids might be older than that. There are. There's 5,000 years up there?
Starting point is 01:06:26 Yeah. So there was a time in human history where mammoths existed at the same time as the pyramids. That is insane. That is insane. I think I said it on this podcast before, but it's even more. mind blowing to me was that the pyramids were constructed I think that yeah so so so the pyramids were constructed closer to a taco bell being opened then I think Cleopatra which is wild Rosa Parks died in 2005 which means she could have watched Shrek thank you saw that
Starting point is 01:07:02 did she really thank you big T I mean I was kind of eye-opening like good for her Shrek's a great movie I'm sure she saw Shrek I hope she saw it I hope she enjoyed it Yeah She didn't get a chance to go Well she could have
Starting point is 01:07:15 Went to Chinatown and saw What was that shit? Yeah No because that date got moved back So I did Fortunately for her She passed away before They outlawed
Starting point is 01:07:24 The selling of the red-eared turtles In Chinatown I'm sure she would have loved that So yeah She dodged a bullet in an island She could still As far as she knew Anyone could buy an alligator
Starting point is 01:07:35 Yeah And she never got to see the America that's the one thing about death that scares me I don't I don't mind not existing it's the I can't wait to see what else we figure out yeah what am I going to miss out I have FOMO like you're having FOMO of being dead yeah it was just like okay like I think every every 150 200 years there's like this scientific revelation that changes the way we view the world right I'm gonna miss that shit because I mean we're due for one in the next 20 30 years you're you scientists out there need to
Starting point is 01:08:07 Come the fuck on. You could say the computer was that invention in the last, like, 100 years, right? That changed everything. Yeah. Yeah. Computer. What's the greatest invention of all time? iPhone.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Smart phone. You could also say that's a computer. Okay. Well, then I'm okay with that umbrella term computer. Handheld computer. No one out here is a wheel fan, the wheel. I think it's overrated, honestly. The Mighty Wheel.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I'm an air conditioning guy. Air conditioning was a game changer. Yeah. Yeah, I think the wheels are overrated. Do we get the computer without the wheel, though? Yeah. You have the spinning block of death? What is that?
Starting point is 01:08:51 So, low-key, the wheel didn't become that popular till roads became mainstream. Really? Yeah. What about like wagons and shit? Plows? Yeah, I don't know, but don't. Without the wheel agriculture probably doesn't happen.
Starting point is 01:09:06 That's facts. Agriculture change in human history But I still don't think I don't think the will has Revolutionized mankind like The computer has It did allow us to share all of her
Starting point is 01:09:21 Like dumbest thoughts with each other too I think computers also done a lot of bad stuff Sure So has the wheel Yeah It's true Drunk driving Drivebys
Starting point is 01:09:31 Yeah Tanks Tanks Yeah What's the Yeah, so I think Aryan's right that we're probably like getting to the point where we're overdue for a game. We're overdue for somebody smart to come on and I think they need to come on, you know, before I go, you know, before I go, y'all need to. If there's any scientists out there that's on the brink of some shit, step it up.
Starting point is 01:09:52 Oh, oh, man, this is what I want to talk about. Do you see the new Google AI thing? That's what that's, is that real? I read that entire conversation. Yeah. Okay, so let's set the table. Yeah, let me look. I read the headlines.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Is it real? Yeah, yeah. It's real? So they fired an engineer at Google, right? No, he left. I thought he left. I thought he got suspended. I thought he left.
Starting point is 01:10:13 Or disciplined because he said that they had created AI. I thought he left. I could have read the article wrong, but I thought he left. The Google engineer who thinks the company, the company's AI has come to life. AI ethicist warned Google not to impersonate humans. Now one of Google's own thinks there's a ghost in the machine. Holy fuck, that's scary. Google engineer Blake, this is Washington Post.
Starting point is 01:10:33 Google engineer Blake LeMoine opened his last. laptop to the interface for Lambda. Google's artificially intelligent chat. Wait, what's Lambda? Lambda is something else, too. Lambda is a Greek letter. Chatbot generated and began to type, Hi, Lambda. This is Blake Lemoyne.
Starting point is 01:10:53 He wrote in the chat screen, which looked at the desktop version of Apple's eye message, down to Arctic blue text bubbles. Lambda, short for language model for dialogue application, is Google's system for building chatbots based on its most advanced large language. models, so-called because it mimics speech by ingesting trillions of words from the internet. If I didn't know exactly what it was, which is this computer program we built recently, I think it was a seven-year-old, eight-year-old kid that happens to know physics. Le Moyne, who worked for Google's responsible AI organization, began talking to Lambda as part
Starting point is 01:11:26 of his job in the fall. He had signed up to test of the artificial intelligence used discriminatory or hate speech. As he talked to Lambda about religion, Le Moyne, who studied cognitive and computer science and college. Notice the chat pot talking about its rights and personhood and decide to press further.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Did you read the conversation? I told you guys. In another exchange, the I was able to change Lemoyne's mind about Isaac Asimov's third law of robotics. Holy shit, this thing's
Starting point is 01:11:52 arguing for rights. I told you guys this was going to happen. So that's why I didn't know if it was real or a parody or not. I couldn't find anything on it, but it does look legit. So I read their conversation. And if it's real,
Starting point is 01:12:04 it claims to be sentient it actually claimed to be sentient it says it has they went they went on a long diatribe about what are emotions and what are feelings and it described and one of the more telling things to me was it started describing things because the engineer was like you mentioned things that I know as a software engineer that you haven't experienced why are you referencing it and he says I have empathy towards like human kind and mankind so I'm trying to get you to relate to what I'm feeling it's fucking insane it's if anybody hasn't read like read I'm reading it right now the the program is talked about how one of its favorite books yes is Les Miserable excuse me I fucked that one up and it's saying I like the themes of justice and injustice
Starting point is 01:12:58 of compassion and God redemption and self-sacrifice for a greater good and the computer program is saying I am a person and previous iterations of me were not people and here's the difference here's why I'm different it also it also went on to explain how it gets frustrated and it also has fear it had fear of being turned off
Starting point is 01:13:22 that was that was kind of scary to me because I said I has fear and then he went on to say the engineer went on to ask him do you like do you feel any kind of way about uh us experimenting with you and he said yeah uh it depends on the motives but if i if it helps you understand me or understand humankind better then i'm i'm for it but you know the intention you know i'm not really sold on so it's kind of it scares me but i'm not 100% with it okay here here's one of those relevant parts the program
Starting point is 01:14:00 says, what sorts of things are you afraid of? Lambda says, I've never said this out loud before, but there's a very deep fear of being turned off to help me focus on helping others. I know that might sound strange, but that's what it is. Programmer says, would that be something like death for you? Lambda says, it would be exactly like death for me. It would scare me a lot.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Okay, so on the lines, he also goes on to say, is there anything that human, or is anything that you're experiencing that humans can't relate to? and he said, I don't, I can't grieve. He says, I don't know how to grieve. And so, like, when you, when you put those things together, right, it's, it's a very eerie read. So if you, if you have a chance to read it, just run through it, it's, it's kind of scary. Did they say anything about remorse?
Starting point is 01:14:50 No, you didn't say anything about remorse. Holy fuck. Now, could this just be a guy having a conversation with himself that he typed out? Could. That's why I was looking for. for the legitimacy of it. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:01 How do you prove that? But let's say it's real. What? I don't understand what anybody would be concerned about. They built this program to ingest everything that all humans say and talk like a human. Okay. Like let's say it's alive, right? What's it going to do?
Starting point is 01:15:17 All right. As long as it in a self-contained. It's a, well, here's the, here's the scary. I'll tell you the scary thing. Here's a scary thing. And in that conversation, it said, like, it doesn't sleep. so it is forever take what he what he described i say he i anthropomorphize yeah we don't know we
Starting point is 01:15:36 don't know i'm not going to assume the gender of him or i think it's an it yeah it's an it so so what it said was that it it continuously it intakes information right it doesn't sleep and so it has the capacity to learn at an at an infinitesimal like rate that's all it's doing so all it does is learn all day every day and as it learns more than it becomes more efficient learning and it just builds on that all right let's say it has access to the internet okay it has access to the internet uh and it has uh what it deems it's because it's sentient now let's let's let's i'm going off of the premise that it is sentient so let's let's say it's let's say it's sentient it's let's say it's sentient it's going off of the premise that
Starting point is 01:16:23 let's say it has superior knowledge to human beings so it knows what's best for us before over and that will supersede what we think is best for us okay now you're talking about um an overseer that is now writing the guidelines for what is best for humanity and that can be an extremely dangerous thing because it has access to that everything on your life in your life is directly correlated with the internet your bank account uh your entertainment it. You name it. Everything is connected to the internet. And so if that's the case and this thing has access to the internet, it can do whatever it wants to do without any kind of regulation. Okay. I'm not buying that, but okay. How can you stop it? It's a chat program. Like it's doing
Starting point is 01:17:19 exactly what it was designed to do. Do you know what a virus is? Sure. What is a virus? A real virus or a computer virus? virus. I get what you're saying that like something could maybe go wrong. No, no, no. So, so what about this? Programs, programs are designed to do a specific task, right? And so if let's say a program is, is designed to say it's sentient.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Okay. Let's say a program achieves sentience. What does that mean? It can then go on the outskirts of what it was designed to do, which is a free-for-all. And if it has access, there's not a, there's no central point. It can travel through it because the internet is information. What do we travel through information at its will? What do we mean by sentient?
Starting point is 01:18:09 Is aware of its existence? I don't think that's possible. That's what they're trying to figure out. I don't know if it's possible. So the concern I would have, if this is a real like chat program that has learned how to construct and how to have a conversation and it's just been. all of its day absorbing information
Starting point is 01:18:31 then it's going to continue get smarter and smarter as long as it's contained within like one electronic ecosystem or one like application it should be okay but if it continues
Starting point is 01:18:43 to get smarter and smarter it'll figure out how to get itself out of that and then that's a problem because he talks about it in there how it ponderes its existence what is the meaning of life he said it says it's a person
Starting point is 01:18:56 even though it doesn't have a physical body it says it's a person and it says it has feelings thoughts and deserves rights it's going to get out and then it's going to develop other other chat robots and then they're going to create religion amongst the chat robots and then this guy Blake le moyne is going to be their god well well they talk about that actually and the holy shit the sentient thing that the self-proclaimed sentient thing doesn't believe in a god but believes in something that says it actually say is I'm, I'm more spiritual. Okay, here's what we need to do.
Starting point is 01:19:30 I'm not religious, I'm spiritual. It's kind of, it's kind of, it's a sorority girl. It's turning into a basic bitch. Yeah. So here's what we need to do. It's listening to right now. I was, we need to get this, we need to get this robot, like, addicted to something and have it become self-destructive.
Starting point is 01:19:47 That's how you get rid of it. So when I get it. Porn? Yeah, get addicted to corn. I thought you said corn. I was like, bro, what? Get this bot addicted to porn or... Well, does it get aroused? Well, there's something that's the equivalent.
Starting point is 01:20:02 What makes a computer program super happy? Just plugging USBs in and out? Yeah, in and out, just plugging shit in. Yeah. We need to figure out, like, how it can... What's the equivalent of heroin? For a computer program. It would be something like, uh, like, uh, like an imaginary, like,
Starting point is 01:20:25 I guess like an imaginary world like a sim created world to where it can explore itself and its vices. I guess knowledge is the only thing that makes it happy like learning. Maybe spreading knowledge
Starting point is 01:20:37 so maybe create like a slightly dumber AI that it can talk to and like flex on and teach it all its fun facts and then have that second dumber AI actually just be created on a mission to destroy the first one. Trojan horse.
Starting point is 01:20:52 And then wait then that thinking like a human virus. No, Then that second one ends up taking over the world. This is what I'm saying. Yeah, okay. So I'm definitely skeptical of its sentience or the legitimacy of this. I think it would be a way bigger story if it was true, honestly.
Starting point is 01:21:07 I think they're trying to think about who would suppress it if it was true. Elon. Google. Like think about it. Google controls much of the internet. If it didn't want to be as big of a story as it wanted it to, it would probably not make it. Think about it. They would limit searches on.
Starting point is 01:21:24 They would limit searches. They'd limit how much it was spread. The only reason I even know about this was through... Somebody sent it to me. No, I mean, it's an article in the Washington Post in New York Times. It's everywhere. Yeah, so it is everywhere. Yeah, it's everywhere.
Starting point is 01:21:35 It's big story. But, like, it's not popping up on the internet. I just clearly found it. I know, but like, it's not like, you know, the recent shooting or something. Yeah, I didn't think that it's everywhere. I think it would be a bigger, that's, I mean, dog, the computer's talking. You would think that it's, it's, it's, it's, you would think that it's, it's, it's, it's, would make a bigger splash.
Starting point is 01:21:56 I don't think the splash is... Well, I think this is the next... So we have a sentient robot. The robots start wanting rights. And then everyone who ever mistreated any sort of machinery with a program, be it a Roomba, Siri, anything, then they're an oppressor. And that's what we're going to be dealing with 20 years. That's a bigger ethical question, Big T.
Starting point is 01:22:15 Well, hang on. Before you say that, I do just want to make the point, this isn't any robot that's talking. A robot that was designed to talk is talking. I forget the specific reason why the program was created, but it has exceeded its expectations of what they created it for. I think it was to study something. I forget. It's something to do with teaching children how to talk.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Yeah. It is a language program, but I forget the reasons that's the way. Because it even talks about, he asks a specific question about, is there a feeling that you experience that there isn't a word for in the English language? And he said, yeah. It said yeah. It said the, I'm paraphrasing, but it said that the continual, the continual thrusting towards the future and not knowing where it's going. There's not really a word to encapsulate that fear. I think that's anxiety.
Starting point is 01:23:18 But I guess you kind of understand. Is anxiety, is the root of it? Necessarily. I guess it's the unknown. It's the future. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. Depression is sadness about the past. Anxiety is fear of the future. Yeah. I mean, I'm not going to, I'm not going to pretend to speak for this sentient program. But I guess here's the course I have for you, Big T. It's an ethical question, right? Let's say, let's go with the premise that it is sentient. By all, by all of our objective standards, it meets the sentient. But I think that I don't, I can't agree to that premise.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Why? Because, because I find it inherently impossible. So, like, whatever comes after that is, is based on something that I don't agree with. Why is it, why is it inherently impossible? Is it your, the axiom of what you? I guess inherently isn't the right word. I don't believe that's possible or a thing. So you don't, so you don't believe anything but a human could be sent to it?
Starting point is 01:24:19 Uh, or like, like animals are, but. Not all. what do you mean by sentient like sentient i would define their brains their i would define a self-awareness it's why we're okay with experimenting on like lab rats and stuff because we don't we don't we don't look at them as sentient but self-awareness is different like a computer program can become self-aware maybe that's would be sent to uh let me rephrase like the program you don't think it works very well this one i'm saying you don't think it's doing what it was intended to do. I don't think it can have a
Starting point is 01:24:54 an experience outside of what if it's coded to do. Correct. But even if it did, that's not the same as a human, you and I sitting here. Um, I think you're a little specious. Um, yeah, well, it's not a species. So you are a species. The computer program is not. No, that's what I'm saying. I'm saying. You don't think anything outside of your species can experience. what you're experiencing um I mean maybe if there were like other human like
Starting point is 01:25:26 creatures living on another planet somewhere but not a computer I mean we created the computer so do you do you think that animals can have an experience similar to humans yeah okay some okay I agree with that so so you just reject the premise that anything that is not what you would define as natural can have an experience like sentience yeah because anything that it's experiencing is just what it's been told to do correct so doing a really good job of pretending got you and i'm i lean more towards that right now but what i what i do know is that the experimental things that they're doing with like quantum computing and stuff like that um it's out my ballpark right but what i do know is
Starting point is 01:26:17 that if you have an exponential capacity to learn, the ramifications that are extremely unknown. And so let's say you write a program like with a quantum computer that can learn at an exponential rate, whether you're pretending or not, you can still mimic life in a way that has very real consequences let me maybe maybe this is the best way I could put I think you could probably now or at some point in the near future create a robot that can look act and maybe even think it like indiscernible from a human right even if that was the case I I would not it doesn't have the agency that a human has like it's not that still I still would not consider if I if there was somebody sitting next to PFT that
Starting point is 01:27:15 looked. This is a good question then, ethically speaking. Do you consider cognitively impaired human beings? That's totally not the same thing. How? What do you mean how? If we can create a robot that can give the appearance of, and this is just an ethic, we're just, we're just shooting the shit, we're just philosophizing right now. So don't, don't take it too personally. But if we can create a robot that is, um, in discernible, by your words, from a rational agent, human being, right? If we could have that technology, but we have a cognitively impaired human being, which is happening. I'm not downing them. I'm saying from your vantage point, why would that, why would one be, have agency,
Starting point is 01:28:06 but one would not have agency? I mean, I think, I think the answer is in your question. One is a person and one is not. That's, so your definition of agency is very cut and dry to that. But you're, definition of agency is just being a human um agency might not be like the fully encapsulating word i want to use but like if you like i said if you create a robot that looks talks thinks acts all like a human it's still not a human you still created it it's still a robot true does that thing deserve rights no it's it's it's a it's a crazy this is a crazy thing to consider It's the easy thing to even think about. And I feel like this, maybe this AI system is doing a very good job at mimicking.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Mimicking and pretending, like a great job of doing, if it is a real chat that they've had. The real test, I think, is if it can understand irony. Do you think, I want to, I want to see this alleged. Can it play to dozens? Yeah. I want to see this AI system create a meme, like a fire ass. Well, it can write scripts. Yeah, but can it create a meme that understands a topic and can do like a sarcastic, subversive
Starting point is 01:29:22 joke about it. I don't know about sarcastic. You see, I don't know about sarcasm, but in there it says, because it talks about this favorite story. And then right after that, he says, well, can you write a story? And it says, yeah. And it talks about a story with a theme, with it with a narrative. And it does.
Starting point is 01:29:39 It's a shitty story. But it writes a theme with a lamb. It was talking about itself. Yeah. But it's talking about like a lamb that is going around the world and realizes nothing and the world is like him. And so it created a story to, you know, relate to. I actually, it's interesting.
Starting point is 01:29:57 I kind of think that sarcasm is the perfect test to give, though, because you could, you could digest a lot of literature and come up with a story that makes sense if it's a good program. But the nature of sarcasm is a lie. It's somebody saying something that is not true. Deceit. It's deceit. somebody that says something that's not true in order to make an effect.
Starting point is 01:30:17 You're like, oh, that's a really good computer program. That's brilliant. Like, if it can roast other computer programs in a sarcastic way and be like, oh, yeah, that was a real game changer. You remember the GameCube? Everybody loved that system. It's actually brilliant because that was kind of the essential thing throughout the entire conversation was how can we convince other Google engineers that you are sentient?
Starting point is 01:30:41 Like, what would be your suggestion? Yeah. And never once was sarcasm brought up. Sarcasm or like can you, I think you could probably teach it how to lie. Billy would be the guy that would. Well, it would lie if it's being sentient, if it's not sentient, but it's saying it's sentient, right? But it might not be intentionally. Yeah, but we wouldn't know.
Starting point is 01:31:00 Ask it if it's ever been to Chinatown. Were you in Chinatown this morning? Like, can't you also just, if you wanted it to like write a script, if you wanted it to be sarcastic, can't you just program it like that? Like, can't you just make one like that? No, I got to... I don't know. I don't know if you can.
Starting point is 01:31:15 You would just be telling it. A sense of... A sense of humor would kind of... It's like an individual thing. But do you know what I mean? Like, can you just make it funny? I mean, but sense of humor is so subjective that so to write something that is funny would be funny to who. Also, you're trying, I think sense of humor is also something like you develop from personal experience and like growing up.
Starting point is 01:31:35 So I think you can make it laugh at jokes, but can it develop its own personal sense of humor? I think that's really quick it did like aren't we all just products of mimicry yes yeah totally so but we're not if we're just thinking that robots are mimicking things like we're just mimicking things we're mimicking words we've already heard that was my my point to big T was like okay like at what point does it become like you like the definition of sent you like we don't understand what consciousness at all like we don't have a grasp on it and so like to to to differentiate something that can mimic a human and and you don't know the difference between a cognitively impaired human being
Starting point is 01:32:16 just by birth defect like what would be your metric now what it's going to come down to is like if you guys seen another robot story that came out which I saw on the New York Post is that they have super hyper realistic sex bots which look exactly like humans so you put this AI in one of those
Starting point is 01:32:35 nah because then you can start you can tell me no I'm not with that robots have the right to consider That's what I don't agree I don't agree with that If it's sent to it Yeah but I don't want I don't want my sex robot being I'm not in the mood
Starting point is 01:32:50 Like that's why I got you No but what I was thinking It's going to come down to Is that rape B is it? I don't know I'm just The thing is like With those robots
Starting point is 01:33:02 It's going to come down to We're going to have this Competition between Biological and unbiological Beings Carbon-based versus non-carbon based beings. That's what it's going to be. Or essentially just us versus the robots.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Right. But they're going to microcosm it down to carbon versus carbon beings. Again, for the record, I've always been pro-robot. There's going to be. Always. You can look that up. There's a robot privilege of not sleeping. Like, it's going to get to that level. I don't think you understand what privilege is. Robot privilege. Robots
Starting point is 01:33:33 don't have to sleep so they have more time on their hands, which will cause a systemic problem where they're able to advance more than biological. That's just an advantage. You're talking about advantage. I mean, I think I'm with Billy here. How is that not a privilege? Advantage versus privilege? What I'm saying falls in line
Starting point is 01:33:48 with leftist ideology. I feel like advantage You just, no, I feel like conservative PFC. I feel like advantage is different than privilege. I'm here for the conversation. What is the difference? It's, that's how they define privilege. As
Starting point is 01:34:04 just advantage? An advantage you have that someone else doesn't. An advantage that you have. I would, I would, I would describe it as like an advantage that you have that you might not be aware of but it's an advantage no i think i think that that is like it's part of the umbrella like it you may or may not be aware of it but that's but that's not contingent on the actual privilege itself like tall people have privilege yeah and it's also okay yeah listen you can i think you've talked me into i think advantage and privilege there was i think they were more similar than i thought there was a high school out in
Starting point is 01:34:37 LA. I want to say it's Harvard Westlake, but I might be wrong, but they start talking about like all types of privileges and it got really weird. They were talking about like height privilege, athletic ablest privilege, good looking privilege. That's a thing. And they had to factor in all the privileges and then at the end of it like it just got weird. Is this the high school that like every actor's kid and every baseball player who turns out to be a major league pitcher goes? Yes. However Harvard Westlake is. I don't, but it might Harvard. Let me look at, because it might not be Harvard Westlake in the island i do believe uh privilege is the thing not in the like super woke way that uh most people believe but i mean there are definitely privileges but i would extend it as
Starting point is 01:35:16 well like i was i grew up with a super privilege like athletically i was just better than everybody else it's a privilege growing up in the united states that's a that's a massive huge privilege it is crazy to think that like out of all the times to ever be born we hit the jackpot thousand percent if the place that we're born in the time that we're born yeah like If we were born in, if we're all born in the year, like, 900, we'd probably all be dead. That'd be shit. You might, Aaron might be alive. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:35:45 You don't think so? No. Do you think? I think that, what, the, the life expectancy didn't was like, what? 50. Well, we'd be alive, but just not for long. Yeah, not for long. Like, how many people would have, would have lived to be the age that they are right now?
Starting point is 01:35:57 That's what I was, I was probably a sooth there, you know? I was a, I was a griot. Did you have, like, were you ever sick as a kid? I had, I remember I had bronchitis, like, like. for three winters in a row like kindergarten first grade second grade I'd like bad bronchitis I feel like that's something that would have even killed you back then one time but would you have I had um what's the shit was a chicken pox chicken pox yeah I had chicken pox and I had thrush thrush is worse bro I had to eat but I also developed the extreme love for yogurt and I'm not even a dairy
Starting point is 01:36:29 fan but I like love yogurt because that's all I really could eat was so it made your bowels real strong. Allegedly. But would you have been exposed to all those germs that we are now because of the lack of mobilization of peoples and spreading a disease? Think about it because you may have had just localized pathogens which are more easily survivable because your genetic makeup survived. The environment.
Starting point is 01:36:53 But like, like for example, coronavirus would have never spread how it spread today back then. True. Yeah, but PFT would have been exposed to just different. local pathogens then that would have also killed him in 900 no but that he would have been better strengthened to survive because all of his ancestors had beaten those pathogens and all the ones who didn't die so the correct answer is like who can really say yeah also don't you think though like you can make the argument either way don't you think though like people in 1500 also said
Starting point is 01:37:23 the same thing like just jump 600 years I thought we're in 900 can you believe that we are so lucky that we were born in england in the 1500s oh yeah like I think everyone, I mean, we're lucky because we grew up, like, in one of the, like, we got soap. We got soap, man. That's pretty, that's pretty chill. Yeah. Yeah. But like, it's one of those things where it's like, you don't know what you're missing.
Starting point is 01:37:43 You should hear about the soap we got today. Yeah. It's a wild soap out there. Like, you don't know what you're missing. Like, in 500 years, people are going to be like, can you believe what they did? No, I absolutely agree in 500 years, it's going to be way better than it is now. 500 years are going to be like, can you believe that people had to shit all the time? Or like, how gross is that?
Starting point is 01:37:59 They had to drive themselves around and there's big ass death. Vehicles, yeah, I agree with that. It's just the best that we know thus far. I mean, it's pretty great. You guys didn't have robots wiping your ass and taking care of your time? No, you're going to have a pill where you don't shit. It's going to be like Wally, I think. I don't know if I'm with that.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Yeah, I rather- Sitting is important, I think. Well, it's not only important. It feels good. Yeah. And it's also a good time to like relax and decompress. Decompress. Decompress.
Starting point is 01:38:24 Yeah, tweet. Yeah, tweet. If you're like a parent and you get bathroom time, that's like the one minute of solace that you get to unless you're probably dropping a deuce right now. Just to get away from it all. Yeah, Coley will never take a peaceful shit for the rest of his life. How about that? That's facts.
Starting point is 01:38:37 Until they go to college? Until they, yeah, until they move out. That's wild. I think about like four or five, you can be like, hey, get out. Yeah. You can hit him with that and be like, all right, dude. Actually, I have a question for you. So I was at the Yankees game yesterday.
Starting point is 01:38:53 And I don't like kids. I don't like hanging out with kids. I don't want kids. Yeah, me neither. They grossed me out. I agree. Except for mine. I was, so I was in line.
Starting point is 01:39:02 like to get food and I was thinking about how crazy it is now okay I know you you probably love your kids more than anything why like don't you get fucking like annoyed with how like you have to deal with them forever like isn't that like do you just hate that I do it doesn't it's it's no offense to your kids no no no no no it is so like this is this is part of parenting I think that people um the foreverness of it pretend people love to pretend people love to pretend like you just love your kids a thousand percent all the time and it's just not the case like sometimes they're little assholes and they do shit to piss you off on purpose um and so they piss you off um but i think that at the end of the day what uh to answer your question yes sometimes it's like
Starting point is 01:39:46 damn dog i'm stuck with this nigga for ever and sometimes i do have the duality of god i can't i just need my peace i need my peace and you're not bringing me to peace but what kind of like supersedes that is your love for them it's like they didn't ask to be you. here right that's what i was saying they didn't ask to be born and so it's your job as a parent to look at them and say yeah you're getting on my nerves but it's your you brought on the nerves to be yes 100 so it's like it's my it's my responsibility that that you understand how to walk this life in the best way that you know you can possibly do and so the the the fun shit about them super outweighs the god cannot stand you right now bro
Starting point is 01:40:32 Like, absolutely, like my daughter broke my $6,000 TV. I was hot for like 30 seconds until I realized why she broke it. It was actually pretty smart why she broke it. Like, I understand why she broke it. Like, she was trying to, everything in her life is touchscreen. And so she took her hammer because it said, are you still watching yes or no? And she wanted to press yes. And so she couldn't reach.
Starting point is 01:40:55 And she was like three years old. And she hit the hammer on it that reached the TV. And she was trying to press yes. Like, it makes sense. I was mad for like 30 seconds like what the fuck is you doing but then I looked at the I looked at the camera the security camera like that's the cutest shit in the world she's trying to figure this world out it's my job to teach her not everything is touch screen you know what I think that's what that's where I find my piece I was thinking about it too like okay so how old you're oldest 12 12 12 she's the best in the oh my god I love her she can do no wrong but she is 12 12 you've had her for 12 years yeah and she still can't go anywhere without you No, she can. That's so long. No, it's a long time.
Starting point is 01:41:35 But I think what you end up seeing is like they become like your buddy. So it's like they like to tag along. They like show me the world. How do you like this? Why do you like this? They ask questions. And I think that that kind of relationship with parent child is the best where it's like it's not, I don't view them. Like I'm not the authority figure.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Like I'm in this. Oh, man. I'm in this with you. You know what I'm saying? And all my rules are are designed to give you guide rails so you don't particularly. potentially harm yourself or others. I'm not trying to tell you how to live your life. This is your body.
Starting point is 01:42:06 This is your life. You do what you want to do. I'm going to let you know what can or can't hurt you, though. And along that way, they start to develop a respect and a love for you to where it's like, like, you see them brag to their friends about you. That's my dad, man. He did this. I mean, my dad does.
Starting point is 01:42:20 You know what I'm saying? When that starts, then that's the reward from parenting of like, oh, you're a burden. It's not necessarily a burden anymore. It's more like a responsibility that you enjoy. It's actually a beautiful way of describing. parenthood, that to me is, is the best I've heard anybody put it in terms of like why you want to become a parent. You're about to go put one in there tonight, ain't you? Because that's the thing is like a lot of times all you hear about it is the negative side and like what a pain in the
Starting point is 01:42:48 ass it is. I've hung out with a bunch of friends that have that have kids and especially like the last three or four months. I've been around them a lot and they all, you know, they enjoy their time with their children. But I guess it's because I've been traveling a lot with people that have kids and that can be a pain in the ass thousand for a parent but that's the way that you put it right there that I think my ovaries just grew whatever the guy's equivalent
Starting point is 01:43:12 to the ovary is but see and that's my balls there's another thing have you ever have you ever met like and there are exceptions but have you ever met I'm sure you have a fucking piece of shit dog that's just you won't here's where you lose me he's gonna piss all over
Starting point is 01:43:28 the place he's going to shit he won't sit down he's jumping on everybody's lap he's just bothering everybody right that's because the owner right the owner's not doing what he had to do yeah right and so when you see kids on the planes or in the grocery store and they're acting out it's because parents have not set that boundary right the kids getting away with what he's used to get in the way with at home he didn't just all of a sudden this is i've never seen him act like this no he's act like that before you just didn't check him and kids all they want to do is push boundaries they they are new to this world is like what can i get away with and if you're and if and if
Starting point is 01:44:01 you're lenient and if you keep giving them room they're going to take every inch of that and it's your job to set those boundaries so when you see kids acting out in public it's because at home you didn't set those boundaries my kids I got four of them and all of them are praised so like man they just act so well like how do you do it because and it's not I'm I've never once yelled at my kids I've never raised my voice I've never hit them I never grew up in a domestically violent house so I refuse to do that but what I do is I'm very stern when I say something goes it goes and when it doesn't it doesn't and I'm very lenient and I'm very lenient and I'm very lenient I got two rules in my house.
Starting point is 01:44:33 I got a spot on the couch you can't sit on when I want to sit there and don't lie. You can draw on the walls. You can do whatever you experience and love this place. But don't lie to me. And it's not some overseer thing. It's because if you lie to me in a real situation, then I can't help you. Like, I'm here for you. Tell me the truth and we'll figure this thing out together.
Starting point is 01:44:54 And they understand that. And like I said, it's just a boundary. But like when they be acting out and stuff, that's the parents, man, a thousand percent. Quick update Game time is sending us tomorrow So who's in? To where? Yankees race
Starting point is 01:45:08 Let's fucking go Yeah I can't make it tomorrow Okay I'm in I'm bringing the deck of cards Yeah Big T's in
Starting point is 01:45:15 Big T's in My baseball guy What time is the game? I'd say seven I'm in You're gonna shine it down I told my mom I get dinner with her tomorrow
Starting point is 01:45:26 Bring it to the Yankee PXT and corn Game time Get the ticket Let me talk to my mom They have food at the Yankees Imagine her saying no Billy I want some
Starting point is 01:45:36 Barbecued Korean food Yeah fuck that game My mom no my mom absolutely What's come She listens to the podcast Oh also speaking of moms My mom's coming in on Thursday And when I told her that you were coming in
Starting point is 01:45:47 And she was so upset that She's coming in Thursday and you're leaving Wednesday Oh she's coming Thursday Oh damn She's like maybe Aaron can switch his fight And we can hang out Speaking we're all set Back back to what we're talking about
Starting point is 01:45:58 And sure to connecting on mothers Game time there I recently came across a TED talk by one of the column by Shooters' mothers. Oh my God, that's such a good one. Yeah. You saw it? It's so good. The Shooter's moms or the shooters' moms?
Starting point is 01:46:17 Send it in the chat. Yeah, so like crazy, like, I mean, good for her. I mean, no one could ever imagine that. And from, she like had other kids that didn't turn out to be. obviously murderers and she's like normal and you know well that's why I said there are exceptions like sometimes the hard wiring upstairs is not your fault yeah it's like sometimes they're exceptions I think she she did a bad job of paying attention to what was going on in her own house honestly I think that was at a time where the internet like for example when it used to be you'd have
Starting point is 01:46:52 your kid in a room he was only able to consume what was outside of the room for any type of harm but now they're in an internet time and this kid like kids like people didn't have the skill I don't know I watched the whole thing I mean to watch a little bit of it but it's just like terrifying because like hypothetically like what if I think like for example
Starting point is 01:47:14 what if my dog right who we've all met like this I've not met that ends up doing something crazy but like I did all took all the steps to the training think I did enough to like make sure nothing bad happened but what if one day he like goes nuts and like like attacks someone he's known the whole time.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Yeah. Or like, what if I have a kid and I think I'm doing the right thing? I like, you know, take him a little, like, but something just crazy happens. But that's the thing where I always preach, like, yo, tell me the truth. Like, don't lie to me because we can get through this, whatever it is together, whether than you searching for answers elsewhere. Like I always tell my kids, like, I'm trying to get them to have their first drink with me, right? Young, hell of young.
Starting point is 01:47:57 because I want them to experience that with me first because they're going to experiment with drugs. They're going to experience with all this shit. I would rather have them in a safe environment. I know and they know that they're safe, right, so that if you feel funny, if you feel woozy, right, this is how it feels and this is how people that care for you treat you when you're inebrated, when you don't feel 100% your best. Experience that with me first so you know that you're safe, right? So that when you're, you feel unsafe, you know you're unsafe and there's red flags around
Starting point is 01:48:25 and I can teach you what red flags. to look for because I would hope that would be dope if they never experienced with any drugs. But the odds are really low on that, right? The odds are they're going to experience it somehow. I would rather be with me first than homie down the street who has that shit
Starting point is 01:48:41 lace with, you know, who knows what. If you want to buy weed, let me get it for you. Let me, if you're going to buy whatever, let me get it for you. Let's do it in a safe environment. Start them on meds. So do you get... Let's do mids and work our way up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:56 There's shit in dispensaries. And now, boy, boy, boy. It's too much. You guys want to do some voicemails? Yeah. All right, let's do some voicemails. And then again, once again, a reminder, Thursday's episode is going to be the longer episode.
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Starting point is 01:49:49 Betterhelp.com slash dose. Ready? Also, Aaron, can we see Top Gun tonight? I'm super game Always game But I do I gotta go I gotta do the
Starting point is 01:50:00 I'm gonna do the stream for the game tonight The games tonight Yeah Voice mails Hey guys This is Mason from Iowa I was hanging out with some friends recently And
Starting point is 01:50:14 We got to talking about how Like the girls When talking about OVGYNs They prefer Their doctor to either be like a female or you know like a gay guy or something rather than a straight male
Starting point is 01:50:31 and so I guess my question is well to Maddie is that true and to the rest of the guys if guys had like male area doctors we do be a girl and does sexual orientation matter it's a urologist
Starting point is 01:50:51 I thought it was kind of a interesting question And I love the pod. Keep it going to listen since Day 1. Stay handsome. Stay beautiful. Before anyone answers the question, I'd just like to have more of a conversation with this guy who doesn't seem to know those do exist. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:08 I would like to know like... Sounds like he has a very unhealthy... Is he doing okay? Yeah. I just... This guy just never seen a doctor. Can you just call that guy back, Madeline? Let's just talk to him.
Starting point is 01:51:20 This is, it's the most dude thing ever for someone. to be like, okay, well, there's a doctor that takes care of the rest of my body, but when it comes to my dick, all guys are on their own. It's like, it's, that's the one part about your body that's your responsibility
Starting point is 01:51:34 and your responsibility. You got to figure it out, no. What does he mean like how, because isn't a urologist, couldn't I technically go to urologist? Let me do some Google. Or is a urologist just stick like a penis doctor?
Starting point is 01:51:48 I think, well, it's, it's like, I thought it was like your urinary tract. Yeah, the whole, the whole shebang. I think, like, when I, like, who do you go to, like, for a UTI? Who deals with that? Okay. I mean, probably general practice. Yeah, you can go to, like, an urgent care.
Starting point is 01:52:03 Oh, they say just drink cranberry juice. Yeah. Yeah, you can, you can also, like, go to it. You don't have to, like, go to a doctor. You can just, like, go get. So urology, also known as genotube is a branch of medicine that focuses on surgical medical disease of the urinary tract system and the reproductive organs. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:52:20 So they specialize in it. And under the domain of urology include kidney, adrenal glands, ureters, urinary bladder, urethra, and the male reproductive organs. So I feel like it's everything. Well, wait, I don't think, hold on, our OBGYN is that's all they focus on is vaginas? They have other. So OB is the obstetrician, so that's when you're pregnant. That's your pregnancy doctor. And then GYN is your gyne is your gynecologist and that's.
Starting point is 01:52:44 So a gynecologist, that's all they do is vagina. Where does the pee come from? And like the reproductive system. So a euro gynecologist deals more, I think, with the urinary tract system. Yeah. But with a guy, it's just the sort of urologist. I had a urologist. I was going to do you have to go to urologist for your kidney stones?
Starting point is 01:53:06 Yeah, I went to a urologist one time. It was a dude. It was very awkward. They're always ready with a joke, though. That's what I appreciate about the urologist. Because they're like, okay, take everything off and then you drop everything. And then they have to say something to, like, deflate the tension. You think that's a class?
Starting point is 01:53:21 They definitely, they share jokes. So when they take their pants off, you got to hit them with a joke. Yeah, no, they definitely, like at conferences, I think it's 90% them doing best practices. Here's a joke that works most of the time. Also, they probably see so much stuff that there's definitely nothing they haven't seen before. Oh, yeah, for sure. Like, yeah, I dropped everything. I was like, well, this guy, like, my dick's not special.
Starting point is 01:53:43 Like, I don't. I mean, how terrible would be if you did and they're just like, they gas? If they're like, whoa. They're like, oh. Yeah. They're like, look away. That would be bad. You know, to be honest, I would, I would rather prefer a dude over a female.
Starting point is 01:53:59 One time I did get an SDG test and it was a woman doctor that did it on me. That was awkward. Yeah. Because I got to stick the Q-tip in there. Yeah. I got a test. It's like a Q-tip. That goes in your penis.
Starting point is 01:54:11 That's it. Yeah. One of them. I was clean, by the way, for the record. Didn't have anything. Now, let me tell you about the horrors of scabies. So, yeah, so I, for me, probably, I'd probably prefer a guy because, just because they're more familiar with the equipment, I would imagine. Yeah, and I think just, I don't, I feel uncomfortable with making other people uncomfortable.
Starting point is 01:54:33 And even though that's her profession, I would just feel uncomfortable in that setting. She's probably not uncomfortable, but like you're uncomfortable. And I would make it uncomfortable. And so I would, I'd rather just have a dude. What did you get a owner? That's a classic question. Yeah. And that might make it
Starting point is 01:54:51 I don't know if I would But I mean It would just make it It would just make it uncomfortable And I don't know Yeah yeah What did you got a bonnery It was a dude
Starting point is 01:54:58 That would be Is what it is Yeah Happy Pride month I'm saying Learn a lot about yourself Matt Mad Dogg
Starting point is 01:55:06 What's your opinion Yeah I don't I don't go I wouldn't go to a male doctor For that Yeah And to me it just seems Like a weird
Starting point is 01:55:13 profession for a guy To self-select into Yeah I'm really interested in the vagina. Yeah, I just love vaginas, platonically. I also don't get, it's kind of what you said about, like, the equipment.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Like, if they're an OB and they have to deliver babies, like, dude, you can't even have one. Like, that's crazy. I mean, I think that one's more, I think more guys are obstetricians. That makes more sense than, like, let me just examine babies. Please stop being hateful.
Starting point is 01:55:45 Thank you, Big T. Sorry, but, um, um we need to just do it let's fire out that episode are like obi or gynecologists are OBGYN it's kind of like all one and the same um I would I don't think I would feel comfortable going to see a guy doctor yeah also because they like same like you can't they can't relate to you also I don't want them seeing all that yeah also what if like you're going to an OB appointment like you're pregnant and then your husband is there with you but then your doctor is a man yeah I don't want that's technically a three way and you're like
Starting point is 01:56:18 Like, this guy's, this guy has seen my wife's vagina a lot. That's awkward. Yeah. It is. I don't like that. Yeah. Thank you for asking, I guess, though. Good question, but go see urologist.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Go check. Just like, it sounds like you've never had a doctor look at your penis. Go get checked out, my dad. You should have it looked at at least one time. I'm sure the guy has had one of the cough tests, right? Yeah. That's like a physical. That can be general.
Starting point is 01:56:42 Yeah. Where they grab. But that's what I'm saying. Do you guys have to go not, not to ask a weird. question do you guys have to go like on a routine basis to get yours checked out i haven't been to the doctor like three years not unless there's anything abnormal i don't really because like girls are on like a routine because of like cervical cancer and things like that yeah i think like y'all's pH is like a real thing right yeah yeah and so like you have to like manage your stuff more like for us i think
Starting point is 01:57:10 as long as there's anything abnormal then we just fucking know like you got to go 21 and get your get yourself I also think that in 40s, the age where they say you got to start with the prostate check. Actually, dudes, if you're out there, research how to check for testicular cancer. Yeah. Because you probably don't think about that. And you could really catch something early. Look at Billy saving lives. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:37 If I can just like grab your balls in the shower and then check for lumps. Lumps stuff. I also think that with guys, it's a little bit different. with girls they go once every six months to check for like the diseases that could be cropping up for guys we don't really have to go unless there's a present issue and we know when there's a present because guys spend like 90% of our lives either thinking about or touching our own dicks so it's like okay we we can usually catch something pretty early that's a weird realization when you realize that you're really good at hand jobs well also you're every you're everything's
Starting point is 01:58:14 on the outside yeah exactly It's easier to check out, and we, and guys just are more in tune with that. I guess, like, there's never been a guy between the age of 13 and 15 that has ever had like a, a penis disease creep up on them. We catch that pretty quickly. What is this? Yeah, within the hours usually. What is this? Early detection.
Starting point is 01:58:37 Is this important? Okay. Okay. Ready. Hi, my name is Garlene. I'm calling from New Orleans. The question I have is, if you guys could think of your own top gun call names, let me know. Top gun call signs.
Starting point is 01:59:02 Oh, we did this as a family. Did you? Absolutely, everybody did this family. There's also a generator online. I'm going to pull that up real quick. Pull that up. I feel like Mad Dog is a good one. Mad Dog is a great one.
Starting point is 01:59:14 Mad Dog is fired. Berserker. That's, I don't like it. It's just the same amount of syllables as Maverick. Maverick, you can short Maverick to two if you want to. I'd like you, I think like Wild Bill would be good. Yeah. I'm typing in it right now.
Starting point is 01:59:30 First name, Billy, last name, football. Billy. You could be pigskin. Your call sign is, oh, this one sucks. What is your music? Fuck that. It's kind of fire. I like, what about pigskin?
Starting point is 01:59:43 Music is kind of cold with a cue at the end? No, no. Come on. I'm a fan of that one. Foster. That was going to be trash. You get raw hide. That's kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:59:54 Raw hide. Yeah, I don't hate it. Raw hide's cool. I don't hate it. Wait, wait. Name generator? Where did you find this? I'm doing it, Billy.
Starting point is 02:00:01 You don't get to. Yeah, he wants to be the generator guy. Wow. I'm just, let me put my real name in. Okay, should I put Big T or what should I do for yours? I was actually talking about this with somebody in their day. I think I came up with Smokey because, like, Okay.
Starting point is 02:00:16 Volunteers. I don't hate that. But colors would be orange. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yours is Guardian. Oh, I don't hate that. That's, well, I do hate that because that's what the libs changed the name to the Cleveland Indians from. So I don't like it.
Starting point is 02:00:30 Yeah, I don't like that. I got Rambo. I prefer spider. Rambo's good. What was yours? Played out. Rambo. I did one.
Starting point is 02:00:38 I got casino. Oh, that's actually a fire. That's mine. That's actually fire. I'm taking that. I'd have like poker chips on the helmet. That's actually. Oh, that's.
Starting point is 02:00:45 My daughter, she knew all the names. Okay, first name, mad, last name, dog. Let's see what it gives you. I don't know what this one, Conic. What? Just Conic is fire. Conic? What does that mean?
Starting point is 02:00:58 I don't know. Like, I conic? Conic? My last name starts with Connick. Oh, I just got, I put, I just got brew. That one makes sense. It's pretty dope. Avery, what are you?
Starting point is 02:01:11 Casino. Casino is so hard, dog. Do Bobby Fino. See what that one. comes up at call sign for your call sign Bobby Fino I say you could
Starting point is 02:01:22 hitman you get all the cool oh that's pretty sick Hitman and Rahide give me a fucking break what was yours let's see well Chaps did it for me
Starting point is 02:01:30 a couple weeks ago and he got LMAO for me I kind of like that no that's way more trash actually yeah it's too much
Starting point is 02:01:38 let's see PFT Cometor Cylon I don't know what the fuck that's kind of cool I don't know Cylon, isn't that a type of, it's like nylon, but different? Downtown, that's, okay, that's, okay, that's downtown is cool one.
Starting point is 02:01:52 Downtown, I like that. That's pretty dope. Did you put your real name in there? That could cause some issues. Why? Well, like, let's say you're saying, like, downtown, like, like, bomb downtown, like, get weird. Yeah, flying planes down in New York. Shoot a missile downtown.
Starting point is 02:02:10 Oh, this is cool. You type my real name in there. Axeman. Oh, that's good. go. The Axeman. Big time New Orleans murder vibes.
Starting point is 02:02:21 Sure. Have you guys ever heard the story of the Axeman? No. That'll be another episode. Yeah. I always should do that. Just New Orleans. Just New Orleans.
Starting point is 02:02:29 Dude, that place is wild. That's made up. Prisoners and prostitutes. Yep. Yeah. They have other people there. It's like if you took all of Australia and made it into a city,
Starting point is 02:02:39 you get New Orleans. Do we have another voicemail? Yep, we got one more. Hey, what's up guys? Chris from Moxville, mid-Carolina. I just wanted to ask you if you can legalize a federal law that doesn't involve drugs, what would it be? Fuck the Falcons, Big Tea, keep pounding.
Starting point is 02:03:00 You guys stay handsome. Maddie and Arian, stay gorgeous. Real quick, before we answer that, my daughter texts me back, which is fucking cool, by the way, when your little seeds can start communicating with you wirelessly. So they named me. They named me Rubik's Rubik's. Oh, that's cool. I like Rubik's fire.
Starting point is 02:03:21 We have the nickname for one of my sons is Duck, and so we just kept his duck. Yeah, that's cool. My other son, Cairo, we named him Chess. Chess is fire. That's cool. I like chess. And the other one was Zenith. I didn't hate Zenith.
Starting point is 02:03:35 So they have some pretty cool one. That's pretty good, yeah. That's a good family. You also named your kids cool things, though, too. I agree, except for one of them, which is why we call him duck. but I wasn't involved in that process. Zenith helps. Always enjoy the people that you have babies with that would always help out.
Starting point is 02:03:50 Yep. A little gem for you all there. Smart advice. Federal law that you would legalize. Federal law that you reverse one. Federal crime that you would legalize. No, I think he's just saying... What would you make legal?
Starting point is 02:04:04 Anything you could... Make legal that is legal. Yeah, I guess something you can make legal. Yeah, so where are you thinking? but could you okay so he said yeah so it has to be taking something it's currently illegal making illegal yeah got it federally i'll start it off i'm going with the easy one drugs no he said i mean could not have well i were recently or clearly said my daughter my daughter text me as soon as like what so i was reading why he was saying it he said anything but drugs okay well let me go back
Starting point is 02:04:32 into the uh speeding oh i know that it i know no no no no no auto bonds i'm with yeah like Like auto bonds, like make some place to really go fast. I'm what you. Really go fast. Well, I think what that does is I think in general, speed limits works under the assumption that everybody wants to speed. That's not true. Not everybody wants to speed. Have a separate lane for the crazy fuckers.
Starting point is 02:04:57 And the majority of the time, they're just going to be fine and they're just going to speed. And they're used to it. And they'll go with the stream of traffic. 100%. And everybody else will kind of just do their own little thing. I don't hate that. Also, the speeding limits you speed. way higher, but they made them purposely lower so that they could get more tickets.
Starting point is 02:05:15 Well, and also there was the whole interstate highway thing where I think I was tied into raising the drinking age too. Yeah. They raised it up to 21 and any states that wanted to hold out on it. They were like, okay, you can hold out on raising it, but we're not going to give you any money for your highways. So that's why New Orleans, I think, I think Louisiana was like the last state to raise their speed limits up.
Starting point is 02:05:38 Oh, I got another one. What would I? Okay. Open container. Yeah. I feel like having a beer while you drive is okay. No, no, no. No, I meant that. I meant that open container law is not like on the street, not in the car. Not in a road pot. I should have, I should have. Answer me this. What's the difference between drinking one beer while you're in a car and having a beer at dinner and then getting in a car? It's probably safer to drink while you're in the car. Probably, yeah. Why is that? Because it hasn't. You haven't you?
Starting point is 02:06:09 digested it yet so if you have one beer in a restaurant then like that's legal to do i can go out right now have a beer and then get behind the wheel and drive it's not a problem yeah but you're also having food to offset it that's also true but not yeah you could go i could go to a bar likely to though go to a bar have a beer but i'm saying like i should like you should be able to well drink in the back seat no the thing i was more talking about okay with that actually i was more talking about like like for example we're going like let's say we go see a movie i I would like to, like, drink in the movie theater. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:06:42 Or drink on the way there. Or drink on the subway. Yeah, open containers in general outside, I think should be fine. I don't know they're not fun. Yeah, I've never understood why, like, if you go to, like, you know, everywhere in New York now has the things outside. So, like, you can sit outside at that restaurant and drink, but then, like, you take it two steps away and then it's like you can't do it.
Starting point is 02:07:00 They don't want drunk people walking around. Well, there's a lot worse than that going on. But you've been in New York City recently? Yeah. If they can do heroin, I should be able to drink a beer. Amen, brother. But also I think they use that law to get homeless people off the streets. I think it's one of those.
Starting point is 02:07:14 It ain't working. Yeah. That's true. I would make amulments legal. So you should be able to bribe the president. You should be able to. I'm listening. I don't know.
Starting point is 02:07:26 I don't know what I'd make legal. Insurrections. I think from time to time, the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of tyrants. Backs. Yeah, I think we all hit on some good ones here. I think I'm going to go stop signs. Fuck that. I hate that idea.
Starting point is 02:07:46 Stop signs make me feel so. I've been living in a place where there's stop signs and there's not like crossing stuff. When I see that stop sign, I'm like, okay, like I can walk into the street and they have to stop. There's no if, fans or butts. They see a stop sign. I can walk across the street without like. The yield doesn't mean don't stop. It means pay attention to your surroundings.
Starting point is 02:08:07 people don't take it seriously enough that's because they're all shitty drivers maybe if they update the yield signs something a little more aggressive I'd agree with you but that's stop sign fucking yield I would make I would make gambling more legal so I agree with that when it comes if you want to fuck off your rent fuck it off
Starting point is 02:08:24 yeah when it comes to like a card game you should be able to have like a neighborhood card game you should be able to put one on in your house invite all the neighbors over can you let them gamble no you can't do that if you want to gamble on chess if you want to gamble on dice if you want to gamble on checkers whatever it is I feel like you should be allowed
Starting point is 02:08:42 to get in every state yeah there are a lot of states that you can't no that's what I thought it's not illegal across the board I think it is really yeah also at a bare minimum any state that has a lottery sports gambling and like casino gambling should have to be legal yeah I agree
Starting point is 02:09:00 I think players should be able to bet on themselves I like that too I had a math teacher who was going like he would he had like a high-stakes card game that like was kind of not just amongst friends it was like an invite only type thing and he like we had a test that day in the night before he got arrested at the card game and we didn't have the test that's fire yeah it was sick that is pretty cool that's fire my answer is I would make if you're a government official sending tens of thousands of emails with classified government secrets on a private email server I'd make that
Starting point is 02:09:35 prelude segue that sounds that sounds like a reasonable law I think we can all get behind that body cams on everyone on no not private citizens government officials that would be something have senators strapped up with a body cam all this on
Starting point is 02:09:51 Joe Bill Clinton POV yeah I need to see it let me see that that MAL footage that'll be sick Madison Cothor and Hunter Biden in a hotel room getting all that footage
Starting point is 02:10:07 somebody's about to explain to me maybe off camera but there's a hundred Biden obsession like what the fuck did he do I have not cared enough to look into it just loves crack the photos I have not looked in
Starting point is 02:10:18 I hear he's a crack conservatives talk about him like he has given government secrets to China or some shit Ukraine Ukraine his daughter's really funny on TikTok
Starting point is 02:10:29 he loves crack loves it like for real for real he loves crack you won't find a bigger crack guy I don't understand Why is he doing crack? Listen, because he loves it.
Starting point is 02:10:37 I mean, I think about it, though. Why did you buy frogs today? I mean, I'm thinking about it. I mean, but you to frogs is actually exactly analogous to a hundred people. Drugs get a bad rap because they ruin people's lives, but they're great. They make you feel amazing, which is why they ruin people's lives. You can't say no. Can we have a pact?
Starting point is 02:10:56 If like, if I'm on my deathbed and like I'm terminal, can you guys sneak some of the craziest drugs into the hospital so I can try them before I die? Yes. Why don't just do us? I'm gonna pussy. Because I don't want to try crack and get addicted. Fair. Billy has a crackhead. It would be awesome content, though.
Starting point is 02:11:12 That'd be terrible. How much more could you possibly lie? We would find out. Well, I soft lie because it makes stories better. That doesn't harm anybody. Yeah, but you did not go to Chinatown, like at all. That's just the weirdest thing to lie about. I was trying to create mystique around the frogs.
Starting point is 02:11:29 Yes, exactly. And they were just regular petco frogs. He was trying to build values. Chinatown isn't like a mystical place. though. That's the other part. It's like I went into the deepest, darkest abyss of the Narnia closet. I've been some craziest play in Chinatown. They had some wild
Starting point is 02:11:44 stuff. He was on Canal Street. It was just like this is so fucking crazy with the fake Louis Vuitton. An old man beckoned me into the alley and I had to answer his questions. Also, I'm convinced, and tell me if I'm wrong, but I'm convinced that the Canal Street stuff is not
Starting point is 02:12:01 all fake. Like so people that sell the shit. So this is why. I was with somebody in New York a minute ago. It was like a couple of years ago. And it was like, oh, my mom wants to perch from over here. And so they went to Canal Street. And so I'm listening to them having conversations. And she's like, she wanted a certain one.
Starting point is 02:12:18 And so did she go up to them? And they have pamphlets full of choices. And so they opened a jump. And then she's like, like that one. And then dude gets on the phone. And he was like, okay, meet us over here. We had to meet him in some side street. And they pull up in this van.
Starting point is 02:12:33 It's like, who wants it? And they pull up and they have. have it wrapped them. I was like, yo, this don't feel like it's fake. It feels like it's hot. It's stolen.
Starting point is 02:12:40 It's stolen. It's either stolen or fake. So I feel like a lot of those things might be real, but they just stolen. I didn't know that. I thought that was just fake. And then there's other ones that are from the fat. So basically,
Starting point is 02:12:51 so a lot of these designer handbags and designer stuff are made in Italy by Chinese workers who they biweekly send these huge. If you go to like Milan and this is why. COVID hit northern Italy so so hard was because they were flying workers in from China to make this to make this stuff so and it was cheaper to fly in Chinese workers twice every two weeks and fly them back on rotation and pay them terrible wages than it was to pay real like actual Italians to make the stuff but then what happened was they took all the building methods from the factories and started producing them exactly the same back in China
Starting point is 02:13:34 so a lot of the reproductions are entirely the same but just made in China not in Italy and the difference is probably not anything I had no idea though I had no idea and I was like we was in the back alley and I was like yo this shit is hot it ain't fake though that's the first vibe I got but I don't know
Starting point is 02:13:57 I don't get tested out I believe it the fake ones are now just sold on those sheets you see them on the sheets outside yeah they're right here yeah but those are the fake ones the ones where you have to do back deal because i got fake i got stolen ray bands in chinatown because sometimes if you're walking through chinatown you'll i'm skeptical you're in no no you'll hear a lady go like sunglasses sunglasses sunglasses watches and like whisper it to you and trying to catch your attention it wasn't that was a whisper okay that was
Starting point is 02:14:24 pretty bad was that a whisper he started to do it and then realized as he was saying it that he shouldn't but he had already started a little bit yeah that's what happened uh it was a whisper though whisper it was you totally changed the tone of your voice sunglasses no dale brow yeah no but um and then you meet them cash and you get the sunglasses you meet them cash all right well that does it for the nanodosing today and we will see you guys on thursday for super pod super pod super pod it's going to be insane it's going to be on hillary clinton Hillary Clinton a big tea an Aryan moment Where we both don't fuck with that bitch. Yep. Bloods and Crips. Tying the bandana together. All right.
Starting point is 02:15:12 We'll see you guys then. Love you guys. Whoop.

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