Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Presidential Crimes ft. Hasan Piker

Episode Date: August 16, 2022

On today's episode of Macrodosing, we have on one of the most requested guests the show has ever had, Hasan Piker (01:48:03). He joins the full crew to talk the many crimes committed by Presidents in history. Also, a much needed catch up since PFT and Billy were out last week. All of this and so much more on the show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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Well, it is the start of the show. Okay. This is the start of the show right now. That's Big T hopping on the ad read. Big T. Have you been into any ball games recently, any ball stadiums? lot actually yeah where were you at uh last week well the weekend before last i went to four of the five braves uh mets games how that go not well um but yeah i love i just love going to ball games how'd you get in game time there you go that's organic right there yep we did not plan this out game time gets you

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Big comeback in that game, believe we're down 24 to 3. I plan on, I'm very excited that we're all going to be there when we beat them. again. It's going to be very fun. And Aryan's going back for the first time since he retired from the NFL. The whole squad is going to Knoxville and we're going to go to that game. And if you want to go to that game,

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All right. Welcome back to Macro Dosing. Mad Dog is doing a nice little welcome back dance. It's good to be back in the studio with you guys. I missed you guys last week. Billy and I went on our annual grit week road trip, and we left you with Large and KB. So I have not listened to last week's episode.

It was fun. I've got some feedback online from certain people. I don't know exactly what went on on the podcast. From what I've heard, things went pretty smoothly. Is that fair? Oh, yeah. Aaron, did you like, well, you know Large already a little bit. What were your impressions of KB?

I don't really have much I mean he's a cool dude I think he's a bit of a troll But yeah he's funny dude Yeah funny dude I have a problem Larg's my that's my guy I fuck with Lawrence

Yeah Large is the man KB I saw that you guys talked about How you sent him viral Back in the day With the vegan tweets Yeah that shit was hilarious man Yeah

The vegan Craigslist ad Yeah People kept sending me more of his creditless shit. That's funny. He was killing that shit. Yeah, he's a funny guy. How are the vibes in the studio? Hi.

Really good. KB did guarantee that every August 8th he will be on the podcast. So just look out for that one. So we invited himself back on. Yeah. For next August 8th. All right, that's fair. That's fair.

I like that he was comfortable enough with you guys to do that. So you guys got into catfishing. Yeah. Manti Tao. Yep. That entire thing. Okay. and large was well at home.

I saw Big T. You were making yourself at home up here. Mad Dog took my seat. No. Yeah, that was, that was Nano. It's only for Nano. Yeah. Okay, I was shocked to see Mad Dogg him.

But that's fine. That's fine. Donnie did it last year on Grit Week, and he looked like a perfect mix of me and Big Cat as one person. But it's always weird to see somebody else sitting in your seat. Look, I was asked. I did not ask to be put in your seat. So I will not be putting it again.

with great power becomes great responsibility. Well, you don't have to be. I'm not like trying to intimidate you out of taking my seat. I was just shocked to see it. It's weird. I was shocked to be in it. Yeah. What's the biggest takeaway from sitting in the seat?

It's a lot. Red lights. I didn't realize you guys had red lights on you. Yeah. Because I don't sit in that. I didn't even realize that to like two weeks ago. Yeah. Three weeks ago.

I was like, what is that light? They're like orange. Yeah. Yeah. That's why we look so tan. I'm just actually. PFT. You're looking pretty red.

Jacked right now. He literally just looked in the video. I look tan right now. I've been hit the beach hard. Me and Ray Baker have gotten to know each other pretty well this summer and I've got two weeks left to summertime so I'm going to be out in the sun as much as I can. And you have a Jeep. You're like turning into a real dirty show guys. Yeah, well two weeks left with my beach house. That's really when I, that's what I'm counting it as. Are you going this weekend? I'm going to be down there this weekend. No, you cannot come. You are invited. No, I've invited Billy. I've invited you. I've invited you I actually could come this weekend

Unfortunately the house This is the one weekend Where the entire house is just completely full I've invited all you guys down there Which the office still stands just not this weekend You know who is going to be in the house this weekend Jake Jake is coming down

Oh cool And you're not So me and Jake are going to We're going to party up So yeah it is good to be back though We also haven't seen you guys since Billy's performance Oh yeah

Oh yeah Billy took the stage at Pup Punk Did you see Billy singing Boren to run online? I did see that. What did you think? About what I thought when I heard him saying it in studio. I was impressed with Billy. I'll be honest.

My expectations were low because Billy had told me that he's taking it very seriously. And then a couple hours before the show, he's like, hey, I'm going to be late. And then he got on stage. He had the chain out. Yeah, shout out Jetsky. Wayne Jetsky. He gave me his chain, told me to unbutton my shirt on get, get jiggy with it.

Billy wanted to do the entire song. Yeah. Billy wanted to keep going with it. I was like, no, Billy, trust me. Two verses, that's going to be plenty for the people out there. And the crowd loved them. It was a rush. The crowd was a rush.

Aided up for Billy, except there was one woman. I don't know if you saw this woman. She stuck out like a sore thumb. She was like in the middle of the bottom row. She wasn't like first row, but a couple rows back. But she was on the floor and she was staring at you the entire time with a look on her face. Like she hated you. But everyone else loved you.

I don't know. But I just kept looking back at this woman who was just staring at Billy, like, like it was a, I don't know, like a public torture scene where she was disgusted by your performance. And I was like, you need to lighten up for a second. Billy's killing.

Who was this person? I don't know. I need to find out who she was. And then after the show, after Billy's performance, Rohn was like, give it up for Billy. And she was like,

no. I will not clap for Billy. She was mad at you. Well, I mean, she said no. Yeah. She goes,

she goes, no. I never. ever performed solo I've sung in a choir like in school and in church but I've never sang solo or did a performance like that

I've done karaoke but yeah so that was that was so nerve wracking like that you put your soul into the lyrics though I did you guys did awesome it was so fun I want to perform some nickel back okay if there's an opportunity

you're KBing yourself you're inviting yourself back on next August 6th you can come and perform with us live and play a show on August 6th I also think that we should do Carostal karaoke on nanodosing so like Billy perform Born to Run I'd like to see Big T get behind the mic

because I know he's got a good voice Well you did Rocky Top right He's done that before We've done that before on this show You want to do it now? No I think that's a Wednesday thing for Thursday's nanodosing What song would you like to sing?

I would not like to sing Okay but you're kind of being forced to in this situation I don't know. We'll cross that bridge when we come to it. Well, it's two days. Yeah, I really got forced and I, yeah. You were nervous. Well, I didn't know I, you signed me up for it.

You were nervous, but it's okay. It was terrifying. You used the nerves. It was, it was more terrifying than Jose Canseco. It was definitely more like anxiety inducing. Wow. Well, like right before. What do you think lasted longer, Jose Canseco or the Born to Run song?

Born to Run song. A minute and a half? Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, send suggestions for what you want to hear Big T sing on nanodosing on Thursday. Maybe something country. You got a good country voice.

Yeah, kind of. I'd like to hear you sing maybe some Garth Brooks. You know me Garth? Maybe. Some Toby Keith. Miami. There's some, Toby Keith has some good ones.

I like beer for my horses. Good song. Yeah. And then Aaron, we'll get you on at some point to sing some karaoke, too. You a karaoke guy? he's a rapper he's a musician

so he can sing yeah he can sing I've definitely performed but uh that's not really my style man what if Aryan and I sing courtesy of the red white and blue together I mean yeah

hell no hell no with some kind of soul do you remember that song that came out like 10 years ago accidental racist I do not That song was so

It was maybe the worst idea of all time It was LL Cool J And I want to say Brad Paisley maybe And it's maybe the worst song Ever put out And it was about like A white guy being like

Yeah I'm racist sometimes And a black guy being like Yeah I'm racist too It was It's just really bad But I highly recommend everybody Listen to it once Just to catch the vibe of it

They thought that they were Like uniting America but it was like the most divisive song it was great it was a it was a wonderful moment in the internet Jesus 2013 yeah 2013 yeah about 10 years ago Brad Paisley wow yeah he was a banger but yeah we're uh we're all back in studio today we've got a special guest coming up hasan piker you may have seen him on twitch you may have seen him on twitter Instagram he is a a commentator a political commentator and uh it's a good discussion that we had very wide ranging so i hope you guys like it he actually dm me after we were

done with it here's here's what he said uh that was dope man i hope you all didn't think the first half was boring and i think i know why he said i hope you all didn't think the first half was boring was because just him and billy were getting into like like old uh prehistoric not yeah was it prehistoric stuff we were talking about pre agricultural age i'll i'll say this if you missed smart billy smart billy makes an appearance here i'm buzzing off Lionsmane. Yeah. My brain is operating at 3,000 percent of capacity.

I've got Lionsman coursing through my blood, too. Well, you just took it. I've been on it. I've been dosing it every day. Oh, yeah? I think my neurons are going to get super. I think this might be a permanent change. Your neurons are more connected than ever.

Yeah. Yeah. So we got it from Jake Plummer, who we interviewed on Grit Week, and we went to his mushroom farm. Aaron, did you know Jake Plummer at all? you're muted again fuck i think i actually keep hitting this shit uh no i never made him i think you'd like him he's a he's a very very cool guy universally loved by all his

former teammates he's got very interesting perspective on things he grows mushrooms now not the fun ones we were disappointed we thought that he was growing like the psilocybin mushrooms but he he grows uh lions main what other rachy mushrooms um cordyceps rashi um the ratio, I've been taking two, the ratio is pretty good for anti-inflammatory. Also, I don't know what the ratio does, but it's an anti-anxiety one. And then cordyceps is supposed to be sort of a pre-workout of sorts for energy before working out. And then Lions main is great for focus. I think that the Lions main, he got what I took definitely is on par with a microdose of psilocybin. I'd put it there yeah yeah i i took some before we started recording so i'm i'm about to feel the effects of

it right now it i took it this morning and it hit me i already should tell me i think i have some you got lions man no i have some mushrooms i think well not we don't have this is this isn't psychedelic oh oh but i'm glad that you have some mushrooms that's awesome yeah yeah we got to introduce you to Jake. I think you guys would become fast friends. I do have a bit of sad news that I wanted to get into today before we got into the meat of the episode.

I don't know if you guys have been following this story coming out of Norway. Yeah. No, this is... Billy knew exactly... The lines made it's fucking hitting on Billy. I just said, I don't know if you guys have been following this story, and Billy's like, oh, yeah. No, it's... It's incredible. So we're on the same wavelength here.

Is there... We're talking about the seal? No, it's a walrus. Seals have internal ears sea lines of external walruses have tusks can you not disrespect I'm sorry I didn't mean to disrespect the walrus community that would be like me being oh

like are you a monkey get it why because it's a lesser evolved creature okay we're talking we're just going to mix up species now sorry okay so can we just observe this this moment for what it is because it's sad let's bring it back

Freya a 1,300 pound wall who spent the summer lolling about on boats and basking on piers in Oslo Fjord, delighting many locals, has been killed by Norwegian authorities who say she was a threat to human safety. I think what she really was a threat to Hillary Clinton. That's probably what it was. Okay. Yeah. She had information leading to the arrest of Hillary Clinton. Yeah. Freya, the Walrus, she seemed like a real sweetheart. She just made her way up this fjord. She's been hanging out on boats, just kind of like sunning herself.

And tourists were getting too close to her, and they thought that there was going to be some sort of accident that happened. And so it was a preemptive. It was a pre-crime Harambe is what they did. So before anything bad could happen, they, well, they said in the news that they euthanized the walrus. They don't say how. I don't know if they euthanized her with a bullet or with poison or if they just, like, got behind her and choked her out real quick. I mean, whatever they did? Have you ever seen a walrus skull?

I can confidently say I have not. Woolruses have thick-ass skulls. Because literally the only way to kill a walrus, if you're a polar bear, is to crush its skull. If you look at all the walrus polar bear fight videos. I love how you say walrus. Woler's? Yeah, what is it?

No, I like it. Woleris. Is that correct? I've always thought it was walrus. No, it's walrus. Well, if you're a sailor. Yeah, if you're a sailor. If you're a real seafaring gentleman.

If you're a seafaring individual like Billy. And you're up in the Arctic. and you're looking at their walruses. Billy listens to enough like Swedish and Norwegian chanting music that I'm going to go with his pronunciation on walrus for the time being. I think it's just how David Attenborough says it.

So the only way that a polar bear can kill it, can it just bite into its liver? No, I mean, because it has so much fat. So think about it, you have about like two, sometimes depending on how big the walruses, you have a good three feet of blubber. Nah. Walrus.

Walrus. No, brer. Play it again. Wait, play one more time. No, that's the robot talking. Walrus. Walrus. That sounded like wool.

Well, the thing is a walrus. I don't think walrus really encumptulates like the Andy Reed. Encomptulates? encompasses I like encumptuilates I'm gonna start saying that's kind of lit actually yeah I like that word

basically what I'm trying to say is if you were to shoot a walrus in the head it has a thick ass skull so you need like a caliber bullet like a you're not putting that down with like a well you could shoot its body no but I'm saying

there's three feet of blubber I'm pretty sure a bullet could pierce three feet of fat though right but then it would slow down the velocity I mean walrus walrus that's that's

how chicks a robot that's different that's what I said this is how you pronounce it women say walrus men say walrus W-A-A-L-R-U-H-S Walrus Yeah there's not H you say H

No that's that's the pronunciation shit that they spell inside of it to let you know how it's supposed to be Anyway Woolwurst's So Fray is dead I don't know why they killed Freya

Justice for Freya Why couldn't they just like take her to a zoo I think it's a little bit more difficult than that. You have to, like, put a net on her. Wait, when you say the euthanizer, that's like when animals like, or it's usually when we're suffering from like an ailment and then you choose to take your own life

or you have somebody else that has your right of attorney to take your own life. Oh, actually, speaking of Scandinavia and Eustania, they've legalized that suicide chamber. And that's just dark. That's not as beautiful. No, but it's just like it's, it's just like it's way too easy

I don't think it's that well it's easy to do it that's kind of the point right yeah if you're like suffering from terminal cancer yeah but you just get in this thing and then auction gets depleted I'm sure there's like a process you have to go through it's not just like in the town square yeah you have to go through like a lot of like

psychological tests and you have to sign a lot of things to make sure that you're aware of what you're doing before you sign off on it. You can't just have a bad day. No, I'd be like, hey. This is it for me. Yeah.

Also, I think you have to, like, be defined as someone who has a terminal illness who cannot be treated anymore. Someone in California, they just, I read an article on it. Someone in California just used the right, I forget what the name is. I get it. I get it. But it's just like, I don't know, it's just like, that's, it's just sort of like, whoa. Okay.

All they're saying about what happened to Freya is. is it was done in the early morning hours and was conducted in a humane fashion that complied with current routines and regulations. That doesn't mean shit. I think they shot this walrus. That's like that's a shot. You do you know how?

Like how they put the cat, when they killed cow and they put it between the eyes? Yeah. Like with a stunt because just everyone Google Walrus skull sent into the group. So it's the human's fault in this situation because the Norwegian authorities are saying that they couldn't keep people away.

They wouldn't listen. to all the officials that were telling them, hey, you can't swim with this walrus. You can't beckon this walrus for pictures. You can't throw sticks and stones at the walrus. And so people got too close to it. They didn't listen. And so they figured

okay, it's time to kill it. That's fucked up. That's really sad. And Freya, it looks like her only crime was Being too friendly. Was being too friendly. Probably flipping boats too. No, I don't think she was flipping boats. She was chilling in boats. She was laying down in boats.

Have you ever, oh, did you guys see that video of the whale breaching on top of a boat? No. Oh, it was on TikTok. There's two angles. Whale breaching on boat. It's wild. Oh, I saw that, yeah. It was ridiculous.

Also, Billy came into the studio today. The first thing that he did was he unpacked this giant canister of pencils and a notepad. It looks like Billy got a sketching, a sketching gift. Where did you get that? the note i've always had the notepad and sketching i've never seen those pencils before yeah i used them to draw the frog the nfts frog okay and what are you drawing right now well i so i found uh top right post today was someone found an incomplete skeleton of a woolly rhino in germany so this german dude didn't know what it was and he tried to construct it not knowing it was incomplete and it just

turned out looking like a two-legged unicorn and i drew an artist rendition of what the two-legged unicorn would look like. Okay, show it to the camera. Yeah. What are you thinking of that, Aaron? I know that you were,

you were critical of some of Billy's previous drawings. Well, you got to look at the skeleton. It looks, it looks like a pretty decent drawing. It looks like she's a happy cartoon hippopotamus.

Nah. Why does he only have one leg? Why does he have one leg, Billy? Why does he have one leg? It's two, it's two-legged because they, they only found the, back legs of the woolly rhino and they try to put it together i'll send the other picture of that

to the group all right well very interesting justice for fray is what i'm getting at right now because it's it sounds like it was fucked up it sounds like they didn't when they say when they won't tell you how it was euthanized you can probably bet that it involved like some sort of explosive i think they blew it up have you ever seen beached whales blow up yeah and even in the water they just blow up by themselves yeah i was to say that's not because of humans that's just Isn't it like the acid in them? Yeah, it starts burning. It's like gas build up and then just go boom.

Yeah. Yeah. And when they get on shore, if they don't explode, they smell so bad. Yeah. I was in the Outer Banks like 10 years ago and a giant sea turtle washed ashore. It was big. It was like massive. And it was on shore.

And I climbed on top of it to take a picture, which is a bad idea because they've got barnacles all over. And they're like, hey, be careful. If you cut yourself on a barnacle, like you might die. You might get a bad infection. So I climbed off. And then I expected that somebody would take the sea turtle away at some point. And they didn't.

The entire beach stunk for like a week. It was bad. I heard a story of someone jumping on a beached whale with bare feet. And their feet stunk for like the rest of the summer. Yeah. So the moral of that story is don't mess with dead animals. Beached animals. Or animals, animals in general.

Yeah. What do you think they should do? I know you're an animal hater, Aaron. What should they have done with Freya? I don't I think they did she gone right I'm okay with the decision

I don't know enough about to see walruses or lions or whatever the fuck it is so I'm happy with their decision all right I'm not well honestly the Scandinavians are pretty cutthroat

when it comes to that kind of stuff I mean they're pretty you know like cold as ice like the landscape they come from like polar bears are banned from iceland any polar bear that shows up in iceland is to be shot and that is a law on the books since like viking times well i i understand that that makes sense to me polar bears will just kill everything yeah um that's the scandinavians though iceland is populated by former vikings right from sweden norway eric the red yep that's my

ancestor really yeah huh he so he went to iceland Greenlands and then may have hit Scandinavia. I mean Newfoundland. Yep. And his son, Lee Ferrikson. Yeah. Yeah.

Cool dudes. Were they? Are we canceling Vikings? And I think so. I think whatever happened between the Vikings and the Native Americans and Newfoundland when they got there, there needs to be a movie made on that. Okay. Like, imagine bows and arrows.

like two different types of like that crossover has never we've never seen that no and the Vikings lost they got sent that's when that's when the Native Americans like had serious like a serious population like tons of cities mm-hmm all right well that's talk in Norway so thank you RFP Freya or if you're more inclined to agree with erring good riddance to Freya the walrus but billy did send a picture of a walrus skull to the group chat does look pretty cool yeah thick unshootable unkillable so um big tea yeah what are we teed off about this week um so i have one from last week that i didn't get to use but then there's the thing that i texted you all about

this morning that you said save it for the show yeah i wasn't really teed off it was just an interesting it was just a bad way to start the day let's start with what happened last week okay so i mentioned that i went to to all the braves met's games i just have some observations about things people do at baseball games that I think we should stop. First of all, booing every pickoff attempt, but only by the away team. I kind of love that, though. It's so funny. It's so stupid. Like, why did we start doing that? I don't know. Like, you're at a baseball game. It's not a fast-paced sport. Like, if that's the case, then let's just make a rule, only the home team can pick off. And they can just steal as much

as they want. It's very dumb. Thinking every fly ball is a home run. The people who, it's a routine fly ball to center field 10 steps shy of the track and they're just i mean they're up it that's the worst i've done that before yeah you got to watch the outfielders not the ball yeah uh and this this is the one that's the worst being upset at ball and strike calls when you're 400 feet away i i just those people i can't deal with if you're literally if you're sitting in left field and you get upset at a call the umpire made you are the worst person at a baseball game you've never done that? You can't see. You don't know. Right, but you do that. I'm sure you do that. No, I actively try not to. I'm 100% sure that you get upset. Unless I like see it after the fact on Twitter or

something, like obviously you want your team to throw strikes and shit, but like if you're that far away and you can't see, it's just, it's very dumb. It's funny though, if you see a call that you think is wrong from the outfield to go like, look good from here. Now that's different. That's funny. Yeah. I don't, I'm with you on the, the pickoff attempt, though, thing. It's, uh, it's the worst. It's funny. I, I, I've always wondered about that when I'm watching a game on TV, especially if it's the first pickoff attempt. I can see after, if you've done it four times, after three or four times, then it's like, okay, this pitcher does not want to pitch. He wants to, he's like killing time. But if you make a legit move and like, you could almost get the guy and they'll be like, boo. Like, it's, it's very dumb. Okay. That's a good teed off. Yeah. What do you have this week? I mean, I texted y'all this morning.

I was walking to the subway on my way to work. And I just saw Rachel Maddow sitting there eating breakfast. And I was just like, can you imagine just a worst way to start the day? What was she eating? I didn't see that. French toast probably. Yeah, probably. Candelope spirals on it.

But I'll tell you what, I'll never patronize that restaurant. I don't even know what it's called. I see it every morning, though, but I'm not going there. Wait, you should go. I mean, I can find out what it's called. You would not be able to handle it, though, because every single time that you would eat there, you'd be like, what if this was the fork that Rachel used? Yeah, I mean, there's, it's too close already.

Why didn't you harass her like a lot of Republicans have been harassed in restaurants? Because that's not a thing that you should do. It was. Who did that happen to? It was several people. Kavanaugh and Tuckering? But Kavanaugh didn't know that there were even protesters there. So the restaurant people went up to them.

They were like, hey, we're going to get you out the best. back so you don't have to go through the protesters. So he's able to eat his meal in comfort, but then afterwards, he was escorted away. But yeah, that was how I started my day today. I think it happened to Tucker, too. I think people yelled at Tucker at some point. He's a weirdo, isn't he? Did I show you the video of him fly fishing in Central Park?

No. So one of the Howard Stern guys just was walking around and was videotaping. him and didn't know who he was, um, fly fishing in Central Park, which I mean, I could, it's pretty chill. Yeah. Fly fishing is one of those things that I think you have to get into when you're in your 40s or 50s, right? That's an older. I've, I've been doing some fly fishing recently. I'm getting, it's very, very hard. I'm trying to get into it. Someone very close to me is very, very good at it. And it's, it's fun. It's all in the wrist, right? Yeah. It's and then controlling the line, pulling the line it's a whole thing is it meditative very it's a great time to like pack us in

yeah uh to pass the time to that helps with the patience part um but it's good to get in the river it's good to get that cold water up to your waist have you caught anything yes errin erin do go fishing you know i prefer it's on the water yeah that's a good point my cousin just got a boat labor day i'm gonna go we're going to fish that's great to to know somebody with a boat and not own a boat yourself yeah that's perfect that's that's actually i that's actually ideal you don't really want to own a boat no not or a plane or any of that kind of shit like it's just better to know somebody with one having partial headache yeah you have there's so much maintenance that has to headache maintenance gas insurance uh those regulations and not rather and you yeah

unless you're like a boat guy and like you enjoy like Fixing gears and shit like that You have to know how to tie all sorts of knots and shit too Yeah How many different types of notes Knots do you know how to tie Billy? Probably I know how to do

Three, four consistent knots I know a couple cleat knots Um Yeah just You could just be making up words right now And I'm just nodding like yeah The cleat knot on a cleat is different Oh like like shoes

No on a cleat what's a cleat you mean like what's on the dog cleats no like a cleat like on the side of a boat oh that's called a cleat yeah

okay I thought you were like I thought you were using a very fancy term for tying your shoes no well there's different knots for different things yeah

and I use a bunch of different knots but I don't remember like I couldn't tell name all the different ones I just know them from what I use them for yeah I know two knots I know the

like how to tie my shoes and then I know the tie knot was that a winter I was about to say I was about to say the Windsor is that a not I guess it is Windsor's not but some people go like double Windsor

I think I could do the double Windsor I could do both I believe yeah I used to be oh I could do the bow tie as well oh you know how to tie like the actual bow tie tie tie yeah I used to be into bow ties well you know what happens if you there's like double Windsor triple Windsor and then you end up with

quadruple Windsor what yeah no where's this going actually yeah yeah well billy no just brain dump it out you get the lines main flown through the neurons after what's after what's after triple windsor he was like it's a slippery slope with the windsors you know no i don't know i want to know let me just make sure

no billy just tell me what you were thinking no i'm wrong never mind damn it we were deprived of a classic billy wrong situation yeah that'd have been amazing what were you thinking of well there's you know the the the corporate the corporate the corporate noose is they call it it's a tie oh the new you're saying it becomes a noose yeah okay you didn't want to say noose noose no no because it's like the corporate news okay i think that's just somebody saying like tying the tie yeah with ties are

weird because they went there was somebody that at some point in time was like you know what you should really have something around your neck i don't know what the hell it ties for yeah what is it for I think it literally dates back to... There has to be some purpose, right? Why do we wear ties? I looked it up a while back in, which is why I stopped wearing ties. I think it was a form of like...

I could be totally making this up. I think it was like a form of like... It was like a separation of classes or something like that. So this is what I'm getting from what I'm looking at. Originating the 17th century symbolizing nobility, honor, and order. During the 17th century Europe,

Croatian mercenary serving in France were the first to wear nodded. neck or chiefs to signal their position in alliance King Louis the 8th of France admired the neckwear so much began wearing ties as a status style item

Huh So the king wore and then everybody else is like I got to do this too Well I think it became big Amongst the mercenaries The modern neck time Well they descended from the cravat this is weird

Christian denominations teaching plant yeah I don't yeah I don't think that there's a functional use for a tie right maybe like as a oh oh this is cool

is it like a bib okay actually now now I'm backing on times in 1715 another kind neckwear called stalks made its appearance the term originally referred to a leather collar

laced at the back worn by soldiers to promote holding the head high in a military bearing, the leather stock also afforded some protection to the major blood vessels of the neck from sabers or bayonet attacks. Okay, I'm backing on ties. So you wore a tie to prevent you from getting your head, your neck slites. It kept your head on your shoulders? Yeah, and also prevented you like your jugular for getting sliced. Okay, so now we're back in, you should wear ties every day then. Yeah, I'm protecting my neck from people stabbing me.

Mm-hmm. It's pretty cool. All right, well, that was tie talk. Thank you for stopping by. We got to the bottom of that one pretty quickly. Anything else we want to get into? Oh, so there's been a conspiracy gone around the internet. So did you guys see recently that that, what is it? There was an actress who died in a car accident. And Hetch.

And Hatch, yeah. And there's video. This is now the only reason I'm bringing this up is because we're a conspiracy podcast and the conspiracies being developed that she wasn't that she isn't dead. Okay. Because there's a video coming from

the, actually, I don't know if we should talk about this. Well, it's, I mean... You're already halfway there. Yeah, so basically, there's a video of her being taken from the accident scene where she was in a car accident, the car went into a house,

the vehicle combusted. And there's a, they take a video of a body, like a stretcher being taken out, out with wrapping over it. And I think what the wrapping is is they put on burn victims. And then on the way to the ambulance, she pops out of it and sits up. And everyone thinks that she was alive.

Well, she was. Yeah. And she got put into a coma. Yeah, she didn't die at the scene. Right. So I think we got to the bottom of that one. But I know, but they're also like, there's all these conspiracies. I'm just bringing it up because I know why.

Because she popped up. She was alive. She wasn't wrapped in a body bag. It's a pretty easily. I know. But then there's proven conspiracy. Yeah, so she's like trying to get out. Are people saying like she shouldn't have been able to move that quickly?

Like after being a car accident? Well, there's, it was also firefighters putting her into an ambulance, not paramedics. And in different states, there's different laws regarding that in California. Firefighters are also paramedics. But people were like,

why was it a firefighters putting her into the ambulance? She was on fire. This is a lazy conspiracy theory. It's just, it's been buzzing. It's been buzzing. It's just because the video is very disturbing. and they think that...

It is sad that she died, though. I don't know what she was from. I just kept seeing that she was an actress. She had a pretty fucked up life. Really? If you go back, I read her Wikipedia page the other day and then read some adjacent articles to source these facts.

But I guess when she was a kid, she had a really bad upbringing. Like her dad was very abusive, emotionally, sexually, a bunch of stuff. And then her brother died in a car accident. He drove his car into a tree. They say, she says on purpose, or she said on purpose.

suicide by driving your car into a tree and then her other brother i think died and then she dealt with like a lot of lingering trauma issues and she um at one point there was a story that she drove out to i think the desert of california or out into the wilderness and just parked her car one day and started walking and she walked like a mile and a half two miles to a random house let herself in the person in the house recognized her from movies was like oh it's Anne Hesh, okay, come on in. And she went inside, she was like, I really need to use your shower. She showered, then she drank a bunch of water and, like, sat down on this guy's couch

and was just not making any sense. And the guy called the police because he's like, there's somebody in my house acting erratically. The cops came up and, like, took her away. And I think she was, she was on MDMA or ecstasy or something like that. Just kind of weird stuff. Yeah. But she, yeah, she had a really, really strange life. But I don't know if I can get myself.

into the she's still alive conspiracy yeah i don't know it was it's been going around i it's much more explainable but like when the news first broke and especially this video came out of her popping out of the burn because everyone thought it was a body bag that she was like struggling to get out of okay they didn't realize that it was just like a bag like a burned bag yeah like she's not dead yeah and that's what everyone was like what like she's definitely alive they're doing another coordinated death. I don't, no offense to her and may she rest in peace, but I don't know if she's a big

enough celebrity to like have a fake death surround. I don't know. Yeah, I agree. Like, I didn't know who she was until, until like, this weekend when she passed away. Like, I don't know if she's big enough. She dated Ellen degenuous.

I do know that. That's, that's like one of the main reasons that I know who she is. Oh, she dated Ellen? Yeah, she's, that's the only woman that she's ever been romantically involved with. Besides that, she's married to I think she was married to a man oh my god no I remember when they were dating no you don't because my mom used to wait I don't think it was when we were alive feeling you might have been dead are you dead before you're born that's a good question I that's an interesting but when you said

that I was like huh let's discuss big tea before you're born are you dead no I think dead necessitates having been alive no I think dead is the state of being not alive you're you're not yet existent. I think it's I think you're dead before you're born. I don't think so. So everybody comes back from the death. Are you are you preborn? Yeah, what are you thinking? Aaron? Well, I think it depends on if we're going by the definition. The definition of dead says no longer living. Depri. Well, well, then the next sentence says deprived of life. Things that are not alive yet are deprived of life. Another the definition says not endowed with life. So that's an interesting.

I'm going to go with, yeah, man, you're dead before you're born. I think you are too. Wait. I don't think, yeah, I don't think it necessarily presupposes life. It's just the antithesis of. But you have, you have to be alive. To die. To have, no, you have to be alive.

Yeah. To have been dead in the past, too. Yeah. Because like, but then that would mean. You can refer to everybody that doesn't exist right now as being. dead that's what you just did no but because they might not exist in the future so precisely so being dead means you have to have been alive first to like you just argued against yourself no no I'm saying being alive means that you have if you're alive it means that you were dead before you were

alive but if somebody's never going to be alive then you and I are literally saying the same thing the thing that no no no I don't like you not I don't like being dead I don't like the I don't like being dead before we were born because remember what it was like before we were born you were dead yeah i don't like that because i don't want that to be what like death was like i don't want i don't want what because you don't remember it well because it was nothing in my brain well or you just can't or when you have one because you were dead yeah but i i like to think that there's some sort of energy transfer non-religious some sort of energy transfer where my consciousness or my being like remains

Right well you're not conscious of it So as now as you know it You was dead But you got inner You received energy transfer To become alive Huh Well

That's true But also Billy's saying that like Okay if you were preborn Or you know Dead before you were alive That you don't want to have that Be after life

Because it was nothing But you don't know That maybe on earth You just can't comprehend The light before life part. Mm-hmm. You know.

I mean, I'm with that, too, but. Like, you can't. We still have, we still have to deal with the fact that there is no recollection, recollection before. But also, maybe you weren't like, oh, no. Now you got lost in your own brand. Yeah. You temporarily died.

No, but, but, you know, okay, so I'm thinking of this from a Catholic perspective. So this isn't like a, um, uniform thing. but God, quote unquote, creates you, like, from his own image. But that would entail that there's a point where you were not created at all, let alone alive. Like, there's, if God creates you, there has to, I guess, be a part of some sort of history or timeline where you're not even created by God, if that's what you believe in. So then when God creates you, are you then dead, though? if we're like going on that i don't know that's where i get tripped up avery what are you thinking you've always got the best takes all of our listeners say he's got the best takes no i i have no

comment no comment that's a bad take that's another bad take how's that a bad take it's a bad you have to have a thought behind that not saying anything is the best take i'll have all year i think i think you're dead i think you're dead before you're alive i don't know i just don't we have the right word for it. We got to get Brian Cox back on the show to ask him that question. Yeah. He'll know the answer.

I mean, I like to think that like you just start dreaming when you die. Yeah. Sure. You know that great, you know that great feeling before you like go to bed like when you're like drifting

off to sleep in your dream? Yeah. Like that good feeling. And you can't kind of tell what's real and what's not real. And like there's just like a bunch of like voices start talking and you don't know what they are. are and they're like yeah the reading like this not happen to anybody else voice time voice what do they say no like you think you're like listening to like a conversation in the

background and you're not really and then you're like suddenly in a scene and like the dream starts to take place i don't know if i recognize that what's happening yeah i don't i don't i don't every time i fall asleep i know that i'm asleep because my body just goes it just jerks violently oh yeah that's yeah i wonder what that is i don't know it's what it's actually this dates back to when we were monkeys the free fall no so we're sleeping in trees right okay and

at any point if you felt like there was a free fall your first reaction would be to twitch because all your muscle so when all your muscles get relaxed and untense that's a point where if you're a monkey in a tree and all your muscles get untensed

that's a time where you might fall that's a problem which kills you so you gotta tighten up you jerk like you jerk back to make sure you don't fall out of the tree. Is that crazy? Sure. Yeah. I don't know if it's true, but I like it.

Because you think you're falling when that jerk happens, right? Right. Big T, what are your thoughts on that? I have heard that before. Do you believe it? It makes sense. I would like to go back and meet my monkey ancestors. I think they'd be very chill.

Do you think... Common ancestor of monkeys. Common, excuse me, common ancestor of the monkey. But, like, go back way, way, way, generations, generations back. Do you think that you would get along with your ancestors? They're just kicking rocks through trees that look like field goal posts. Yeah. Yeah, I think it'd be fun.

That'd be lit. Nancy Reagan's ancestors just chowing down bananas. Swallowing them a hole like vitamins. I think it would be, I think it would be cool to like, like, like, there was a certain time. in human history that's just not recorded pre-Sumeria, pre-Messipatamia, where like we really don't know anything much.

Like, you know the book Sapiens? When they talk about, like, just like that time. I think that'd be really, like, it would be really cool to go visit, like, pre, like, Rome Mediterranean. Just to see, like, what kind of, like, to see what beings we were yeah like what the hell is going on yeah because i feel like there's a lot of

like we know we know we were monkeys and then we were cavemen and then you know like you kind of see the lineage i feel like there's a lot of the in-between moments where you're not you don't really know what was going on like when you're kind of in between the like monkey and no i'm talking about like human because humans have existed of human history i think like civilization as we know it like it's only like very yeah but i feel like so actually something that i think we should do an episode on is there's this tartarian empire theory about this like worldwide empire that was super advanced that was erased to I don't know it's it's kind of stupid a guy I was talking about on Joe Rogan but it was popular on TikTok before then um but like there could have been like a whole

civilization similar to Rome just that got wiped off the face of the earth and we have no recollection of them like before where before like in in the Americas or like somewhere where just what do we have some some of the remains right but maybe time passed so long ago that they're no longer there that we can't pick it up like so much of human history is like like certain events could have caused it to disappear like I'd be tough I know like it could be under we just haven't detected it like well we've been seeing temples in the Amazon remember who we're talking to about that that people been flying planes over the Amazon mining companies and they're finding old ruins in the

Amazon like there could have been whole civilizations there that we just don't have no historical reference for because let me look this up uh billy learned something about Amazon the other day we had Ryan Rusillo in the studio and uh him and Billy started talking great meeting of the minds between the two of them and he was telling Billy that there were these There were these fighters back in the old days, back in Europe, right? No, no, the Amazons are from Greek mythology. Where they would cut their boob off. Yeah, it was a tribe of female warriors who were tall, like Wonder Woman, and they cut off one of their boobs so they can...

They were better at shooting a bow and arrow because they would get rid of one of the boobs. Yeah, and that's where it came from. Very, very cool. All right, so that was a wide-ranging conversation. I kind of... Okay, so think of... I'm still thinking about being dead before you're alive. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Modern human is... I say, yeah, man. So, yeah. 200,000 years and we probably only have recorded history for the past 10,000 years. So what the hell happened? Can we go back to that, though, for a second? Yeah. That's like saying you're retired before you work.

Yeah. No, no, I don't think so. No, that is different. Because retired presupposes that you... had to have, you retired from something. Correct. You died from your life. No, we're not saying die.

You're not saying died. We're saying dead. That's different. So, is you like unemployed? Those are the same thing. You have to have died to have incurred death. Died, died presupposes life. Under this definition, if we're working from the definition, it says no longer living or deprived of life.

No longer having lived in the. path. That's one part, though. You're not acknowledging the, the second part is deprived of life. The other, the other definition, the third definition is not endowed with life. Inadimate. So, you're, the, the analogy of, uh, what did you say? What was your analogy? What could retire? Retirement. Retire, yeah. That, you have to retire from something, not being endowed with life. Doesn't, doesn't necessarily mean, you had it in the first place. So being deprived of employment is the is the analogy here. Unemployed. If you're unemployed, you could either be unemployed by choice because you have been employed and you decide to not be employed anymore or you could be unemployed because you haven't gotten a job yet. Right. That's not the word. But it's deprived of deprived of. See, when you say deprived of life, that to me says like a rock. A rock is dead because it doesn't have life. Well, it exists. You're not saying a rock that.

has not yet come into existence is dead. But I don't think Iraq can die. Iraq cannot come into existence. Iraq can't live. That's arguing against you. You have to be able to live to be dead, but you don't necessarily have to have lived to be dead. We're saying if there's a possibility that you could become alive,

then that means that you're currently dead. So I'm saying you have... Scientifically, I think... I think we're in... This might change your mind. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed. But everything that is in existence or will be in existence or has been existence is the product of energy that is already in existence.

Correct. So I don't know what that has to do with what we're saying, though. So a rock can't come into existence. Okay, sure. Well, technically. When Billy says technically there's some fire coming. I mean, robots, I think we're going to have the upcoming war of organic first non-organic beings robots versus humans so metals robots are rocks but but are they ever

live i think they're going to be argued i think i really hope that the robots see me as like a very progressive uh organic being who in the future will be like yeah that podcaster he was advocating for robot rights like way back then you're you're being a nephew billy to the to the human and then they're going to be like wait look at that robot uh he had right in front of him did he treat his robot well i just want to go back to what you You said PFT, though, I'm saying you have to have lived in the past to be dead. You're saying you have to have been alive in the past or the future. Or you can say like anything that's alive currently at one point they were dead before they were alive.

I just fundamentally disagree with that definition. But if you're also saying that, like you said, you have to have existed at one point in the future. Like you could be dead now than come into existence. So the only thing we're disagreeing on is we both agree you have to have come into existence at one point. Meaning it doesn't really make sense to say that something is dead before it is come into existence if that's a necessity for it to die. Right. It's tough to say that about something that has not yet come into existence. But if it has come into existence, then at one point they were dead.

So in order to be dead, you have to be alive. We both agree that life is a necessity for death. You're just saying it can occur beforehand. Yes, but it does not, I don't think that you can say that there's... I think it's tough to concede... Billions of dead people around us right now, but the second somebody's born, it's like, oh, that's awesome, that thing's no longer dead. I think it's difficult to concede that life is a necessity for death and then say,

but it can also be beforehand. I think it happens. Death happens the second life happens. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yes, but I still think that... That goes to my point. I think it goes to all our points.

Okay. I think you can argue it either way. Sound off in the comments section below. Wait, technically. Technically, you're dying. So are you? No, I'm not. I haven't started dying yet.

I haven't started dying yet. Yes, you have. What the hell does that mean? This is classic Billy being like, oh, you're boomer, you over the hill. No, 25. You're when your brain, that's when you start dying. No. What?

Yeah. The moment you're born is when you start to die. It's like a taking time bomb. You start growing. But you're one second closer to death every second you live. Good point. Now what? Billy.

Now what? When do you start dying? Billy's Googling it. Google will tell us the answer to this ancient philosophical riddle. Our bodies are born to die and the decay starts to kick in after we turn 55. Oh, yes. Suck my dick, no, we humans start dying at approximately age 21. Fuck, so I am dying.

Damn. Yeah. We're all dying. This is when animalism changes. What is the animalism change? Do you say cannibalism? Do you start dying at 25? People are thinking 25.

Why aren't people not thinking birth? Because that's when you start living. You get closer to death. But you're closer to death. When do people stop growing and start aging? That's somewhere between 28 and 35. Yep. You're talking about growing, not dying.

Well, I think growing is not. Growing means you're not dying. No, that's not it. Dying is. You're going to stop growing. No. No. Dying.

Okay. When, okay, I was closer to death today than I was yesterday. Is that fair? Yeah. Fair. So I am in the act of dying. Well, maybe not closer to death because if you live twice as long as you are now, you are closest to death when you were zero days old.

That's when you can be super close. Why? So if you were dead, if you're dead, Before you're born. Yeah, if you're dead before you're born. Then I... I'm with Maddie. I'm a matty here.

Like you're a ticking time. The definition says, seizing to live, approaching death, expiring. Yeah. So if you're... Technically,

she's right, but it doesn't mean you can't grow in between. Yeah, growing and dying or not mutually exclusive. Also, Billy, I can die before I'm fully grown. Correct. Yeah, you could die. But naturally dying.

Okay, but I'm not talking about nationally. You're adding all kind of caveats here. Yeah, I'm talking about... What if you? What if you walked down on 7th Avenue after this day? I got hit by bus. Yeah. Yeah.

Then what? That sucked. Would I, but then I'd be dying on the street. Yes. I wouldn't be. This is this. This one's in. This one's in.

No, the lion's main. The lion's mane is still buzzing. My brain's in intact shape. That's an interesting philosophical question. That's a scary one. It is. And if that's what death is like, then that was fine. I didn't mind it.

I didn't know to mind. I didn't know to mind it. Yeah. I was doing all right. Should we all go do ayahuasca together? Yeah, probably. I'm so down. Hey, yo, I actually got invited to a shaman to do it in L.A.

Like recently? What's up, PFT? Yeah. You're going to do it? Yeah, I'm going to do it. But I got to wait until I'm physically ready. Like, I've been chilling. I've been enjoying my summer.

I've been drinking. I've been eating. Yeah. I'm a little, you know, I'm going to make a little, you know, I'm going to make a little, you know, I'm make sure that I'm physically fit and then when I'm physically fit it's going to take me about a month when I'm physically fit I didn't have to like purge so you got to eat like nothing but veggies and I think non-acidic stuff for like I think three days and then you're ready to do it I think you also have to stop drinking for like a month yeah yeah all that so I'm not ready for

that yet can I just ask what ayahuasca is yeah it's from yes it's like it's a root That grows in the Amazon. Okay. And if you turn it into a tea somehow, I don't exactly know the extraction process, then they make it into a tea, you sip it, and then it's got like hallucinogenic properties where it releases some things that are deep inside your brain, some chemicals. I think it releases DMT, doesn't it? Am I misinformed about that?

So DMT is. I know what DMT is. Yeah, so it's like what's released when you die. And apparently gives you completely new perspectives on things. things. Aaron Rogers famously has taken ayahuasca. He claims that it helped him. He's much happier now than he has been.

And he talked about that a little bit on our show. And Aaron, you were saying, I came back in this room and these guys were like, oh, yeah, Arian has Aaron Rogers number. And you should hit him up and ask him for his perspective. Let him know that you're thinking about trying ayahuasca. I would definitely hit him up. I would do that. See what he's talking about.

Because I listen to his interview, very proud of you. is a really great interview about the ayahuasca stuff and like I kind of like I kind of get the whole like Aaron Rogers like I'm out bro Billy what is you Billy put that axe away Billy you know that's not your axe

and we have rules about we have to play with the axe we have safety rules about sharp edges in the studio so Aaron we had we had Liver King one of Billy's heroes in the studio last week and his good I don't get that shit

it's funny he's funny he's actually he's a bit he's a nice guy and some of the stuff that he says it makes sense not like in a you know i don't believe everything that he says but i think he's got some good points that he makes about just being healthier and uh and staying away from like certain technology when possible um but he left us with two axes in the studio he goes and you'll have to listen to pmt i believe that's friday or maybe next monday when it comes out when he's uh ending the interview and he goes i brought you guys

two tokens of my appreciation. They're two special handcrafted axes that I want you guys to have. There are two of them. And Billy lightens up in the studio and he's like, oh, he brought me an axe. It's like, no, he just said that he brought two of them. He brought them for me and Big Cat.

And so he gives us these axes. Now Billy's been trying to steal these axes from us for the last two weeks. Bill, you're going to cut yourself. You're going to hurt yourself. But they are badass. They're sick axes. Yeah.

Put the axe down. I'm going to confiscate the axe. but I don't get the ayahuasca like I didn't get how you ingested it slash what it did for you I think it is it's in a so ayahuasca yeah they they burr they boil it in in a in like a stew and so it's like it's literally a root that they boil and the chemical composition mixes with the heat and I don't know I don't know science behind it but they've been doing it for like I don't know hundreds of years maybe thousands maybe a thousand i don't know how deep it goes but those people i've been doing it for a very long time and it's basically they say a gateway into like seeing

the universe so do you have to get invited to do it you can there retreats that you can go on there's i'm sure that you can seek it out yeah i'm sure you can seek it out um but uh there's a There's a shortcut way, which is DMT. Iowaska's like a three hour or four hour, something like that, long trip or ride or whatever they say, where DMT only lasts like 15 to 20 minutes. But everybody that takes DMT always says the same thing. They say, I feel like they always say time dissolves. They say like the notion of time just goes away and you kind of just become the universe as basically everybody's description of it. And so it's like when they come back to, they're like, how long was I gone for?

And they're like, that's insane. I feel like I lived a lifetime in there. Yeah. And so that's always fascinating to me how time can be distorted in that way. But it's across the board. That's what always fascinates me about this certain chemical experience is that people's experience is so similar about the, the, the, description of how they feel one with the universe right it's kind of like hippish to say but like

when they say it i feel that on a very slight more whenever i like microdose mushrooms like when you when you listen to music it feels like you are the music it's a very weird thing to describe it unless you felt it but just like it just you you become a part of your environment in a very real way and they say that it's like to the nth degree uh when when with with iwaska or dmt so I'm excited about the shit. I can't wait. Hope I don't die. I don't think anyone dies from it.

They can feel like they're dying when they take it. Yeah, but I always feel, that's what gives me anxiety about those kind of shit. It's like, in my mind, I'm like, oh, you're going to be the first one. I always go there. Your mind always goes there. Honestly, I heard the story of a guy who did it and lived, like, in his head, even though it was only like five, ten minutes. In his head, he lived a whole life, had a wife and had a wife. kids and

a whole life that's the episode I told you to look at in the Star Trek episode that's what happens to Picard damn bill did you did you pull a ready player one on the air

no I didn't but he lived the whole life and then after the trip was over he was super sad because he was like I lost my wife and kids yeah bras a little thing kids and he was like like these made up people in his brain he was like

fuck man like I can't play I'll never play hatch with my kids again and he's like this kid was like 22 or like 23 and it was just like that's lit though then he goes like looking across the world to try to find his kids for the rest of his life that he made up

well no I mean where did they existed maybe was it so that's why people think it was a different parallel they think it was like a parallel universe that's the mind fuck it was a parallel universe and there are actually things that you're doing in other universes so I went to

who knows man I went to the Amazon on 2012 and I was in Ecuador and I was going around the rainforest and the guide that was showing us he was from the Kichwa tribe, which is the local tribe in Ecuador. And he showed us the ayahuasca tree. And I was like, oh, do you do you guys ever like drink out of that? And he was like, no, that's just for white people to come down here. So he was saying like, it's not something that the natives ever do, but tourists do it. He was saying like, no, he did say some of the shaman's we'll do it occasionally but it's not like

it's not a common practice down there it's something that's just starting to be explored oh speaking of South American drinks actually I'm going to bring it in because I have some have you guys ever heard of matte

yeah but like how not year but how they actually like do matte no so I have these cups we're going to do some matte probably on Wednesday it's you want to talk about buzzing you think coffee's a good buzz check out some matte okay this stuff is cool you get like this gourd and then you put this

matte which looks like a brick of of midweed and then you put some of it in and you like people just carry around thermuses of hot water to just put in their matte all like it's like people are addicted to this stuff like in uruguay like look they drink it the senators in parliament they all have these these thermuses of hot water to put in their matte it's like a whole thing Okay. It's like another, it's another plant down. That's more of like a, it's more of like a coffee, but it gives you, like it gives you a sick buzz. And everyone's addicted to it down there. In Uruguay, Paraguay, northern Argentina, southern Brazil. I'm in. We're going to do some. Let's try it. Before we get into presidential shit, which I promise we will talk about, I'm dealing with an injury right now. I'm a little bit scared. So I went out and did a club fitting earlier today for Taylor Made. And I swung a, a thing. three would and I'm going to blame Avery on this because I was trying to do the thing where I was like feeling like I was dapping somebody up on my down swing and I think I really fucked up my either bicep or elbow I tweeted out the swing that it happened because memes was videoing me

when I took the swing and everybody's responded to me in the comment section is freaking me out that I have a torn UCL so the ligament in your arm is the stuff that you need Tommy John surgery on yeah we can't have you get Tommy John's that means I'm going to come back throwing like 97, 98. I'll come back even stronger. You're like the rookie. But it's like a, yeah, rookie of the year.

Yeah. It's like a year-long recovery process. My brother just got it last year. He's still not fully recovered. I don't, I don't, I'm too old for that shit. I can't be taking me. What are you trying to? Like, what are you trying to?

Do you need it? Yeah. What do you really? What are you going to recover to? Do I need my right arm? Yeah, I need my right arm. No, but you need your UCL? You don't, unless you don't need it.

You're not throwing it. You can get a surgery and you can go on about your daily. Like your podcast will still be fire, bro. Like, what do you need? Do you even need to golf? I don't, probably. Yeah, you know. It's not like a big golfer.

Never, like twice in the last year. But let's see if you got it, if you got it in like September after like, you know, you're done with your. Can you lift? That hurts to go like that. Does it hurt to push? To put pressure on it. I haven't tried pushing. It hurts.

If you do a push up. If I, if I go like bicep, like that hurts like shit right now. You look jacked, though. Thank you. Dude, your gains are going to get... I know, like, what if I'm going to be... You'll be funny if I just only worked out my left arm for the next year and got, like, fucking swole on my left side?

You would have to... I mean, you'd have to get, like, screws in a plate and stuff. I don't want it. I'm scared now. I'm scared. Maybe I'll get some good pain medicine for, like, two weeks. That'll be cool. I think if you actually have to get it, it's like your ACL where you can kind of, like, manage without it.

Show me to order you to order you to research chemicals? Yeah, sure. Yeah. Can I use the company card? Order away. How much are the either? Let me see BPC. Whenever Billy says, can I order you the research chemicals? My answer is an instantaneous

yes. Okay, BPC 157 Okay, that's 60 bucks. I don't really, yeah, you can use my card. Pharma grade peptide. I don't really use my right arm like I use it for driving. I use it for getting around. Unlocking my door.

What else do I use my right arm for? it's just this is just it's a pep that's it so i'm going to get you bpc 157 is a peptide chain consisting of 15 amino acids it is considered synthetic because the particular sequence does not exist in nature this is another ad bro no it's not it is derived from a protective protein found in the stomach what um researchers have conducted numerous rodent studies on bpc 157 that show it has been protective effects extending beyond the stomach and intestinal tract bpc 157 has been shown to benefit ulcers in the stomach intestinal damage. Wait, wait.

Bone and joint healing and growth rates and organ damage has some influences on the brain. Researchers have observed marked protective effect when BPC-137 is administered to rats. So you're giving me rat medicine. What are we doing? This is a research

chemical. Don't try this at home. Yeah, Billy, I'm going to take my card back, actually. You've successfully talked your way out of this one. I'm going to buy it. No, I don't I don't want, I don't authorize this process. time. Billy, if you buy me this.

It's not be a crime. No, but just buy me this. Get some insulin syringes and just shoot it right into your elbow. No, I'm out. Nope. I'm out on all this.

What? Getting the card back. Give me the card back. Don't commit wire. Okay, you go have a weak arm when I'm here giving you the answers. Oh shit. Shooting you up with 157. PPC 157.

You probably wouldn't even have to get surgery after all these shots. If, uh, if I do have what, my fear is and I have to get like an elbow surgery that's going to be it's just going to be pain the ass I know it's not dude you can't what what are you in area you in area just talking about jacking off no I mean you can't jack off is what you're saying according to other podcasts of this company you can't jack off oh yeah oh really yeah what do you mean if you're married if you're married oh really you can't jack off if you're married which is horseshit I'm not married but that's or shit. Who says you can't jack off

if you're married? That's a bad marriage. That's what I'm saying. Who said it? Me and Alex Bennett. Mean girl said it. I walked on only fans so they could run on only fans. People forget that. Yeah, you did have an only fan. I was the first one.

I trailblazed for them. They should be thanking me. Yeah. Well, I'll keep you guys updated on the elbow. I'm not worried about the jacking off part. I'm just worried about the doing everything else part i'm ordering these okay on your own card just expensive let that be clear i'll just put into expenses okay so let's talk about presidential crimes how about it yeah let's get into it um a lot of a lot of presidents commit crimes we get into this with the son a little bit but my theory is or my actual uh take is that if you become president you should be arrested the second

way in your tenure and you should have to spend the rest of your life in jail Do you think anybody would actually want to become president? Well, think about it. If that was a bargain that you make. I think people could presidents would be crazier. Can you pardon yourself? No. Or technically they're already in jail after.

Because think about it. All the secret service detail they have. When you become president, you're at a point of fame and exposure that you're in a prison of protection. I've also heard that if you become president, you should never tell everybody what your favorite food is, you know, a lot of presents. That was a big question that used to ask presidents back in the day. Oh, what do you really like to eat? Because the second you say what your favorite food is, that's all you're going to be served for the rest of your life. Like everywhere you go.

Oh, I would love that. Bro, give me Japanese ramen for the rest of my life. I would die eating that every day. That's your favorite food? Oh, my God, yes. I like a good bowl of ramen too with a nice runny yolk on the egg. Oh, yes. And when the pork is cooked to perfection and and the noodle and the broth. Oh, I'm hungry as shit. I haven't ate today. A little spicy ramen. Yeah, I like that.

So after your present, Billy, you're saying that you're essentially in jail? I mean, what's the saying about people who, like, live in, like, gigantic mansions, but it's, like, a prison? Michael Jackson. Michael Jackson, who was innocent, by the way, he had to buy out. a supermarket and paid people to pretend like they were shopping just so he can feel normal. That's wild. Fame is a prison. So presidents are kind of prison.

Yeah. I mean, you're not free to do everything that's somebody without that same. But it's the bargain that you make. If you want to become president, you have to know that the consequence could be going to jail right after it, which I would do. I would put every single one of them in prison together. in a president prison They get to play cards They get gangs

Isn't it I kind of think that's a thing already Like Obama Yeah they're all in basically Like they have to go to that lunch Where they all are Wait they get together Yeah the former presidents all get together

It's like the masters Isn't there the lunch The master's dinner? Yeah So who gets to decide what's on the menu Bohemian Grove? Yeah No like

all the past president's dinner defense association oh like what three of them alive or something like that right yeah do you think what would Bill Clinton serve well isn't it is Jimmy Carter the oldest president alive right now

yeah oh yeah so now that we mentioned him odds are he died that was bad yeah that's bad yeah fuck we just killed Jimmy Carter for for fur fur fur fur what's an acceptable amount of time to where

it's not our fault. Oh, that's a long time. I was thinking like two. Two months? I mean, you know who else might go? Have you seen Bill Clinton, any dog? He looks horrible. Yeah, he looks worse.

He looks worse than Joe Biden. He's a harvest more souls. Yeah, get on the adrenochrome, Bill. Jimmy Carter, okay, I'll give Jimmy Carter two months. Two months from today. Jimmy Carter is 97 years old. Two months from today, it is August 15th as I'm speaking this. If he's alive, this is bad.

If he's alive through Columbus Day, then we're going to count that as a massive dub for a man chase suit. Okay? What do we do if he doesn't make it? I think we sell big ass airbrushed t-shirts and say like RIP Jimmy Carter and it's got his big smile and face

and then like a peanut farm on it and then like him handing the Panama Canal away to Panama. This one can't count against us though. He's 97. I know, but like if he dies soon. Well then you can't give us John Maddenin then. We can't get you.

John Manon, we got... I mean, how old was he? Well, he's 70s. That'll be some merch to sell. Just... He was 85. The kill... Of a...

Well, the macrodose and kill count? Yeah. Old and his scythea, which is graveyards of people that. People are going to start offering money for like... To not... Inverting assassinations. Or to not mention us? Yeah.

We get investigated. Yeah. Jimmy Carter, good guy. Um, I think... Big, do we agree on that, right? Great man. Not a great president. Yeah.

I don't think that great people can be good presidents. I would agree with that. I think that I think the worst people is too much stuff that you have to do. He still builds houses for habitat for humanity. And I think as of, like, I think he and his wife still teach Sunday school at their church. Yeah. Like, very great person. I think like the worst you think a person is, probably the better they are at president.

You think so? Yeah. So, I mean, this mentality is what got Germany, the H-Man. Oh, speaking of which, this might be a hot take, but I googled some of it is what it is. I googled some of Hitler's paintings.

Brought. Some shit's kind of, they're kind of good. Like, what do you want me to do? They, they're not bad paintings. I mean, we needed them to be better, though. man I mean he got rejected the bar must have been hired I was gonna say how about the rest of that art school apparently

Was there some like Were there some like legacy admissions that got in ahead of them Is that what the issue was there? I was skeptical I don't know where I heard it There was like Hillary's paintings weren't bad And I was like come on it couldn't have been that good

But like when you look at him it's like dog It's not bad A much better artist than George W. Bush killing George. I mean He had some well-trained German Shepherds Okay, what we're not What we're not going to do is turn

That was a joke That's not a bad painting I'm telling you bro It reminds me a little bit of the The watercolor that Pam did on the office Of Dundra Mifflin Hold that up again I'm gonna turn the brightness down

See doesn't that remind you That painting a little bit What if that's what it was based off of? George W. Bush paintings. Didn't he paint one of himself naked? Hitler. No, ain't a way. No, no, George W.

Oh. Oh, shit. He did a pretty good painting of Dirk Nowitzki. Who painted Dirk Nuitzky? George. George Bush said. That's great. Something in Prague, like fog.

Oh, me. This light is so bad. This is a great painting of Dirk. Dude, I'm, we're not separating the art. from the artist on george bush on h man we're not he also did putin putty putt as he called him great nickname uh he did one of j leno i would like a i would like a george bush painting oh yeah here's the weird one oh wait no that's no these paintings are trash you you can tell why you're into art school my mom my mom has my mom has my

mom paints she she is way better paintings than George Bush all these guys all right so let's talk about some more presidential crimes I guess let's talk about the one that's in the news right now the one that's under investigation FBI rated Donald Trump's estate at Maralago his resort that he lives in and they're trying to get some documents back he's held on to a few artifacts I made the analogy, it's like when Peyton Manning, when he retires from the NFL, he still gets to keep all of his footballs that he threw for important touchdowns. Why shouldn't the president keep like the old nuke codes and designs that he gets? I think that that's something that we should look into. But the FBI is derated him. They took, I think 13 boxes. I don't know. They took

a bunch of boxes out of Mar-a-Lago and everyone's like, oh, the espionage act is being used against Donald Trump. I don't think that Donald Trump is like a espionage mastermind. He's not like committing dead drops and like selling secrets to the Russians or anything like that. I think he just is hanging on to his shit and people were like, hey, can we get, we need those top secret documents back because Mar-a-Lago has notoriously bad security and they've got foreign nationals going around everywhere, including some like documented spies that have been trying to infiltrate. And it's very easy. Basically, if you have like $200,000 in a checking account, you can infiltrate. Maralago if you just donate to the right people. So they're worried about those secrets falling into

the wrong hands. And now people are like, oh, Donald Trump is selling nuclear secrets to Russia or to China or whatever. I don't think that's what's going on. But I do think that like by the letter of the law, he's probably breaking the law. And they're going to be able to figure out how they want to punish him if they do at all. But I don't think this is like a smoking gun into Donald Trump like trying to undermine the United States. I could be very wrong about this. Who knows? Like maybe he has giving him to Jared or Don Jr. or something like that. And they've been trying to wheel and deal them on the open market. I don't think that's the case.

Knowing everything that I do, I think I know a lot about Donald Trump, I think usually with him, the, like, easiest explanation is usually the right one. And he's just a guy that would, like, hang on to all his shit and be like, no, you're not getting this back. This belongs to me now. I'm the president. I get to hold on to my new codes or whatever they were. But who knows?

Maybe the Department of Justice is going to be investigating. getting him for some actual crimes. But I also think that it probably pales in comparison to a lot of the stuff that presidents do when they're in office and then for the rest of the lives after they get out of office. So one of the big parts is they actually took his passport so he can't even travel right now. He actually put on, what's the app that he tweets out of truth? He says, excuse me, Avery, he doesn't tweet.

He truths. Sorry, he truths. And then you can retruth. My fault. he said that wow in the raid by the FBI of Mar-a-Lago they stole my three passports one expired

along with everything else this is an assault on a political opponent at a level never seen before in our country third world do you say third like third world in all caps so you just said third world third world with a exclamation

I'm saying this is like America's a third world country that's but in third world countries like it's it's actually a mark of a good democracy i would say if a former president breaks the law and they're investigated as opposed to just having somebody that's that's never going to be investigated for anything bad that they do after they were president i don't know i don't know i'm not buying the third world thing but he also said he started talking about obama and his archives that were moved to chicago and then um what do you say about the about the fact that

Many of them contained nuclear. Hang on, I'm going to look this up. I'm just surprised that they see him as a flight risk. They detained him? No, they didn't detain him, but they took his passports. I mean, what else would they? They took Trump's passport? That's what I was just talking about.

So he's probably the most recognizable person in the world, right? I don't think that Donald Trump could lay low anywhere. Yeah, they were like. Or Rinaldo? There was one. I was like he just got a... Yeah? You think so?

Him and Rinaldo? We were actually doing... They're both the same. size, right? Six-three. Probably both about the same eye. 225. We were talking about, we were doing some comparisons, just talking in the office recently, and that's the one we came down to that was the closest for most recognizable person in the world. Also, all of his plans say Trump in huge letters on the side. He's not just

get slipping away. That's a good poll for Twitter, Madeline. Cristiano Ronaldo is the most recognized as a world person in the world. You would or would not? Would say. I wouldn't know him in a crowd. Christiana Rinaldo? Actually But every single person in Europe South America and Asia would Yeah

Mad Dogg you would see like a group of people And you'd be like That guy is really hot You would notice him Yeah just kidding I do I look I do know who that is yeah I just don't watch soccer

But I you're right If I just saw him walk out of the street I think that's how many Instagram followers Does he have Like he was a number one He's the number one athlete For social media posts He gets two million to post

Okay so So Trump truthed. President Barack Hussein Obama kept 33 million pages of documents. Much of them classified, Trump wrote. How many of them pertained to nuclear? Word is lots. So that's the word on the street. People are buzzing about how much nuclear Obama has. But like hypothetically, this could be just a thing that most presidents do. But they're, well, no, it's a sign. The National Archives, they're in charge of collecting all that shit. And so they keep a pretty, there's a process that you go through. I think. I think, again, the simplest explanation is most likely the correct one. And I think that other White Houses, especially Obama, they were staffed with people that were nerds, for lack of a better term, that cared very deeply about the nerdiest parts of government and the political process. And so they probably made sure to dot all their eyes and cross all their T's when the archives were being transferred. And Trump had a lot of people in his White House that were from way outside the political sphere that had no experience in government kind of by design right he ran as

an outsider drained the swamp and so a bunch of people that didn't care about norms Obama's team loved political norms there's one thing you can say about like they love that shit and so trump's team was like we don't give a shit about like the national archives whatever we're just going to take what's in the office because that's ours now because we we printed those papers out while we're here it belongs to us and so the national archives got pissed off and And they're like, hey, we need to have this back. And then that's how this whole investigation started. And we was talking about the Chicago stuff with Obama.

The National Archives are like, no, they belong to us. We've moved them and we've kept track of them because that's our job. So I think it's just Trump broke a rule. Sounds like he broke rules more than he broke laws. But then once the papers and shit are in danger of just being spied upon by somebody that's in Mar-a-Lago, that's when the government stepped in. and they requested politely to get the documents back. And then Trump's like, I'll give you some of them back. And he kept, he held on to some of them afterwards.

I personally don't think that he's like doing espionage shit. I don't think that he's like James Bond. But it is funny to think that they confiscated his passport because like, you're right, he's got his name on the side of all of his planes. He would never be caught dead flying commercial. That's just a fact. Like, can you imagine that? Like Trump's sitting coach trying to like fly, trying to fly over to Lichtenstein to lay low

for a while and then once he got somewhere Trump couldn't just sit in a room by himself without having people pay attention to him that's the shit that he loves so I think there's never been anybody that's less of a flight risk than Donald Trump that would be funny seeing him sitting coach though yeah he like

shaves his head puts on a fake mustache that'd be funny I would actually watch that I would watch like Donald on the Lamb a reality show about Donald Trump trying to travel from place to place trying to blend in with the locals. He's one of those guys that definitely has zero organizational skills because other people

do it all for him. Yeah. So, like, you could, I don't, I couldn't see him being able to, like, deal with a kiosk or any sort of, like, buying a ticket online. Like, do you think he could possibly do any of that? Imagine Donald Trump going to the airport and he's trying to fly United somewhere and the plane's delayed. And then they delay the plane and he goes, he gets a snack at the synobes.

or whatever he tries to go to the united club and he only has like a delta club card he's like why doesn't this work yeah yeah so he so he's like trying to kill time at the airport and then they undelay his plane which is bullshit i fucking hate that that shouldn't be allowed i agree that that pisses me off i'm teed off about that well imagine trump dealing with that the plane takes off after they had delayed it and then undelate it and he was off like in the food court getting some sparrow and he comes back he's like i don't understand this was my i would love to see trump just try to live life as a normal person it'd be high comedy

when do you think the last time he flew commercial was probably never never you don't think maybe in the 70s 80s uh in the 70s that was his personal Vietnam right trying not to get STDs while having sex with everyone probably

yeah yeah he said that was his personal Vietnam like trying to avoid herpes or crabs whatever was going around back then I think probably in the 60s he flew he probably flew coach because his dad was rich but he wasn't How old is it? He was flying in the 60s? He's what, 76 or something?

Yeah, I think he was probably flying as a kid maybe? Yeah, his parents had someone. So he was born in 46, so I mean. God damn, that's crazy to think of a... He was born in 46? So that's the latest example of a potential presidential crime, but there are some others going back through the days, Billy had one that he brought up.

Ulysses S. Grant got arrested for speeding. Yeah, I can flesh that one out a little more. Yeah, so we talked about it a little bit with Hassan. So here's the story. Policeman West, so the guy's name was the police officer that got him was a former Union Army veteran who fought in the Civil War. He was African American, and he fought for Ulysses S. Grant. And so what happened was, policeman West held his hand up. for them to stop. The story said Grant was driving a pair of fast-steppers, and he had some

difficulty in halting them. But this he managed to do. Grant was a bit testy. Well, officer, he said, what do you want to want to inform you, Mr. President, that you are violating the law by speeding along this street. Your fast driving, sir, has set the example for a lot of other gentlemen. The president apologized, promised it wouldn't happen again and galloped away. But Grant could not curb his need for speed. The next evening, West was patrolling at the corner of 13th and M Streets when the president came barreling through again, this time speeding so fast that it took him an entire block to stop. Now Grant was cocky and had a smile on his face, the Star article said,

that made him look like a schoolboy had been caught in a guilty act by a teacher. I do, Mr. President, West said. Grant had an excuse for his speeding, not unlike one, no doubt, being given somewhere right now. He had no idea he'd been going so fast. Wes was sympathetic but firm. I'm very sorry, Mr. President, to have to do it, he said. for you are the chief of the nation I am nothing but a policeman

but duty is duty sir and I'll have to place you under arrest it's worth pointing out that there so that was the story Julius S. Grant was taking to the police station cuffed, detained given a court date the next day for speeding

so he's the only U.S. president to have ever been arrested interesting so he was he drunk probably Grant was a big drinker I know that could you get a DUI on a horse

no what can you get a DUI on only actually I was thinking about this horses pretty much anything can you get a deal on and check that out

a bike yeah if you drive if in the street you can do on a bike you can do it on a I almost got one in a oh horses

and horse strong jet ski I almost got one on a jet ski what'd you do so I don't know how I passed the test to this day

But I got breathylized and everything. But me and the homie, we took a whole bottle of fifth to the head. This was when we was in college, right before 2008 season, we was in some river. And we was just, we was in jet skis. And we was, like, circling each other and, like, splashing each other. And the water police came. And they told us to pull over, like, buy their boat or whatever it was. And we did.

And I pretended like I missed, and I missed on purpose. So I had to circle back around. So I scoop some river water and like I swashed in my mouth because I had a figure they was going to smell it on me. So I swashed it. You can kind of like scrape your tongue with your teeth. So I did that. And I blew and I was like, oh, shit, I'm about to go to jail.

I didn't know that. I didn't know they was going to do all that. But I blew and I blew negative. Like, I guess I was within the legal limit. I don't know how I. Scraping your tongue with your teeth. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know how that happened. I don't know either. I don't know if that did it either or maybe they had a bad breath of the lives I don't know what the case is I don't know What do you think would have happened If you had gotten in trouble for that

Oh man Shit A lot I went undrafted For sure Yeah That would be crazy Like that's a major sliding doors moment

I feel like Yeah I mean I went undraft anyway But it would have been If I was drunk driving it's normal I mean it's probably get trapped by the Colts

I think it's like a normal kid shit to do but they would have been like you're always a behavior problem type of shit I had already had that shit follow me anyway but yeah you can get a DUI on anything huh you can get it on a scooter too

a razor scooter yeah you can get them on birds and limes I think it has to be electric nowadays at least I think you can get one on a horse a lot of Amish get DUIs operating horse drawn carriages. I've been looking it up. Really? That'd be funny

as shit. Yeah, especially the younger Amish. Are you on Amish TikTok? Don't tell on Amish. Are they allowed to use TikTok? They're not. I'm on Amish TikTok. Don't snitch on the Amish. What are they going to listen to this? They're not allowed to drink either. I bet you they make their own alcohol. Yeah, probably don't know.

Moonshine. It's just like a year or something where they get to bring up. There you go. There you go. No, I'm on Amish TikTok right now. It's crazy. You know what? If any Amish people on Rum Springer, listen to this show. Please DMS.

We want to have you on macro dosing, maybe on nanodosing. I think I have one on my list. Like you're an Amish guy? I want to talk to somebody that's on Rum Springer to see, like, how is it going? Yeah. What do you have to? Yeah. Is it everything you thought it would be?

If you know somebody that is on Rum Springer, have them hit us and see if they're willing to tell their story. I bet you were like actually not giving them enough credit and I bet umish people are more tuned in than we think. All of them got cell phones. Yeah. That's how I mean that's how they have TikTok. They buy cell phones. I thought they weren't allowed to. I think they all have like illegal like you know some people at that age by fake IDs. They buy they buy cell phones. I think it's more of a I bet you there's more levels to it kind of how religion works where you can even like be super orthodox or super lay about it. kind of thing

or like you can be a Mennonite I think a Mennonite is kind of like a diet Amish Diet Amish Is that offensive? No, the Mennonites, I told you guys The story about the Mennonites, right? I don't know. The one where they

They approach dudes and bars And ask them to help expand their gene pool Oh yeah, yeah, I have heard about that There are also some other presidents that have committed crimes Like we know for a fact Bill Clinton committed crimes while he was in office adultery.

Adultery is a crime, isn't it? It's just against the Ten Commandments. In some states, it's a crime. In the military, you can get court-martial to Cheat on your wife. So as the head of the military, yeah. I don't know if that applies.

But it is a crime in some states, in some areas, I think. I don't know what states, but cheated is adultery? Is it a crime to get your dick sucked in the White House? Well, adultery. That's a crime in some states.

Oh, adultery is still. Dude, it's a crime in New York. Really? Yeah. So Trump is definitely guilty. New York State Penal Law. A person is guilty of adultery when he or she engages in sexual intercourse

with another person at a time when he or she has a living spouse or the other person has a living spouse. Adultery is a Class B misdemeanor, punishable by up to three months in jail or one year of probation. Fine up to $500. so yeah so bill clinton definitely committed adultery although he had a fantastic legal defense

which was i did not have sex i did not have sexual relations with her which is technically true because she had sexual relations with him the way that it's phrased it's like did they do that intention that was like an actual thing yeah because because touching you have to touch somebody else's genitals to make it a sexual act like to have you having sex so her Her mouth was not genitals. That's classic bill. It is old slip-willy for you. Yep.

Gerald Ford had an affair with an East German spy when he was in Congress, and then they blackmailed him for that. A lot of people don't know about that. John F. Kennedy definitely fucked around too, Marilyn Monroe. Yeah. That was a bad decision on his part. Turns out Marilyn Monroe's, like, had terrible hygiene. yeah i saw that we're trying to like we're trying to insult marilyn monroe after she's been dead for years yeah it's like she smelled bad i don't care no but she was she was depressed which is like that makes

you smell bad no like she like wouldn't get out of bed would eat in bed there's a movie coming out about her right who's playing her on is aramis she's in she's the maid and knives out what's her what's her name hona de armas she dated ben affleck for a little bit very pretty girl she actually looks exactly like Maryland and wrong with the movie. Is that your number one, Avery? It's a good one. Anna da Armis? Oh, yeah.

Okay, good choice. She was just in like that Netflix movie, Grey Man. It was pretty good. So we're talking about Jimmy Carter earlier. Jimmy Carter was no saint, even though we think he's a good person. In East Timor, which is an island in Asia, Southeast Asia, believe. He escalated military involvement over there and killed 200,000 people extra judiciously. So that's a lot of people.

I don't know if he personally killed 200,000. Probably significantly less than that. But like we mentioned, like every president's done something like that. I mean, if you're counting killings overseas through military actions, like, I mean, then it's everyone. Is there ever been a president who hasn't served in a wartime? now let's see going back Donald Trump right well we were still we've been at war

against terror yeah there was no oh I'm sorry I'm thinking different Afghanistan and Iraq was the first first Gulf War are we out of all the wars that was Bush

it wasn't still going on I don't think so I think we're out of there by the time that Clinton took over now we did lob a couple cruise missiles over at some soap factories as we've discussed Yeah, to, this says February 28th, 1991 is when it officially ended. Yes, that was pre-Clinton.

Years, United States, not at war. That's the best way to see it. With Reagan, we weren't involved in any active, it was the Cold War, and we had a lot of, we had a lot of stuff going on. He had his, he had a lot of fires or a lot of tire, what's the phrase? He had a lot of irons in the fire. He had a lot of military stuff going on, but I don't think there were any actual wars. Fifteen years out of the 244-year history, we have not been at war.

That's pretty wild. That is kind of crazy. Yeah. Yeah, 15. So the two peaceful years, there was 1796 and 1797. Sound like some good wars. Now, after you become president, when you get out of office, you got to start just loading up on drugs, right? I feel like Obama smokes a lot of weed.

Yeah, what do you think a normal day for him looks like? um wakes up smokes cigarette i think he's back on that he's got to be back on he's got to be back on he's yeah he just put it he just didn't do it publicly anymore yeah he said that he's been quitting he's been trying to quit i've been trying to quit dip for years through vape and zen and i think he probably he probably plays a lot of golf i think that's really the only thing that you can do as retired president right yeah it's a prison of golf just golfing and maybe tennis Bill Clinton

I don't think Bill Clinton golfs though does he no well there was that one picture I mean we know what Bill's doing Bill's just running through some strange yeah I mean

running through the okra patch a little bit he's probably having the best time out of all of them yeah George Bush seems to be having a pretty good time no George Bush is in a prison of his own brain that's why he's painting all the time it is he's just like like he's trying to distract himself from all the bad shit that he did so we who was present from

1935 to 1940 that would be fDR yeah so he he was the only guy there's no war 97 wait wait what you said 1935 to 1940 yeah there's a pretty well we weren't we weren't we weren't we weren't directly i'm just i'm trying to he was also present until 24 yeah i know so i'm just trying to find one president who didn't do any war. Oh, wait. Clinton was 96, 2000, right? 92 to barely 2000, I think. Oh, fuck. Yeah. He had a good stretch of three years, 97, 2000. The U.S. weren't in war. Yeah, because we're all concerned with his dick. Yeah. That's the best thing that a president can do probably is just get a blow job. He made love, not war. That's true. Honestly, that would have been the time to do terrible shit if you really wanted to

because everyone was just so consumed with you know him getting a blowjob that he could have really done whatever he wanted now do you think that he should have been charged with perjury and all that stuff because ultimately he did lie he did commit crimes for sure but then you have to weigh like is this

are we just trying to get him because he man got his dick sucked yeah probably but like I mean he did make it worse yeah so I mean I don't know. Can you pardon yourself as president? That's the big question. Your VP can.

After he becomes president. Yeah. That's actually how they got Spiro Agnew. So Spiro Agnew, a lot of people think, oh, Nixon resigns. Gerald Ford becomes president. The fact of the matter is, his vice president was Spiro Agnew. And he was, he got threatened to be charged with tax evasion, felony tax evasion. So he apparently fucks him.

stuff up bad. And so they use that to be like, hey, you have to resign too. Because we're just trying to clean house here. Nixon obviously committed some crimes covering up Watergate. That was an interesting thing. Watergate, to me, it's very confusing. So they were trying to break in the Democratic National Committee to steal a list of, I don't know, was it donors, a list of people that were not kind to the president. They were trying to get some intel on the Democrats. And so they broke into their hotel room. There's a guy that my aunt used to, to date for a long time. That was the first cop that was on the scene at the Watergate break-in.

And so he's the one that went up to the room, and he noticed that there was tape over the door so that the door went and let's shut. Oh, he was that guy? I just read the Wikipedia. Yeah, so he noticed that. And then he went in and arrested them. He was out doing like Vice Patrol or something at the time. Got a call on his radio saying, uh, there's a, there's a break-in happening at the Watergate.

He was close by. So he sped over there. Two fantastic movies about Watergate. Yeah, really. like they force gump for sure all the president's men yeah and then the post is pretty much about watergate yeah all the president's men is a great movie i don't like old movies uh but we watch that in college and i i love them do you think that's what journalists are like now big day uh no no no there's no woodward and burn scene out there wait frank wills they're few and far between no not frank wills oh it was another cop that was there

That might have been his partner Leaper? Nope Barrett Yep That's him Cool Is he listed in the

Yeah Oh that's cool Because I was reading it over it for this episode I just saw all these names And I was like Huh Yeah he used to You used to regale us kids with stories

About the time he foiled the watergate break And he probably exaggerated a lot of it For a fact But the way that he made it seem like He was the guy that Essentially like kicked down the door And arrested everybody All right, what other problems we got, Billy?

I mean, we have Iran-Contra. Yeah. I mean, the thing is, honestly, every president has kind of gotten away with all sorts of crimes. Like, there's, okay. So maybe you don't, maybe you don't arrest them and put them in jail the second after they leave office,

but maybe there's a full investigation into your entire tenure as president that begins the day that you leave office. Oh. And you're held in jail in the, meantime when time time time served pending trial yeah pending trial you just stay in in whatever country club prison that you want to name no it's actually crazy um grant was the only one to ever be arrested yeah and charged mm-hmm like every president that was too drunk there's a lot

of drunk presidents yeah well what about so after you become president it probably makes it difficult to get arrested because of what you're talking about earlier yeah with a secret service all around you yeah can you imagine And you probably don't want to commit crimes because there's always somebody looking at you. Yeah. Whenever you're just like going about your daily business, it makes it, you're not going to, like, go stick up a convenience store. I am surprised about we, the secret, uh, secret service text messages going missing. Yeah. What's going on there?

Why, like, why would the secret service, one, they're a, you know, they're not Republican or Democratic, like, why would they not reveal the text messages? I think they probably liked Trump as a person. I think they probably enjoyed hanging out with him. Yeah. Because Trump would, he might be like a funny guy to hang out with, regardless of your politics when he's just like being him. I mean, people watch him on TV all the time and he's got a crazy personality. So they might have liked him.

And he probably was a ball buster. And so they probably text a lot of bad stuff that they don't want to come out. It's probably deleted all that. That's my guess. Who knows what it was really about. but that's that's my thought on it um all right anything else you want to get into you want to jump into hasan yeah okay let's get his on the show billy nerds out with them smart billy coming up next and billy delivers an ad read for the ages oh don't spoil it

it's a secret all right here here is hasan piker all right we now welcome on a very special guest it's been a long time coming i'd say that you're you're one of the two most requested guess on macrodosing it's you and nick adams and so we got you first it is what the fuck wait who's nick adams oh dude you don't know who you don't know nick adams wait isn't that the fucking weird guy who's always like um chucky cheese is under attack by the gay SJWs or whatever that the guy that's him he's always like you know what this game could use more of a good christian man like tim tibo yeah he's the skip bailist of politics yeah yeah so we're still not really convinced that he's a real person

we think he might be just he I think he's trolling it might be a bit he's definitely trolling but I don't I don't know if he's real I that's the thing he just might be like a computer composite image and then they gave him a blue check mark and he just gets away with it but it's Hassan has been very requested he's been we've been we've been circling Hassan for a while and we finally got some time with him so thank you for joining us it's Hassan piker at Twitter at Hassan the what's your what's your name on Twitch again how can they find you on Twitch? I have terrible SEO. So my Twitch

username is Hassanavi. It means older brother Asan in Turkish. Avi is like the, I guess, nomenclature. Is that what you say? I don't know. And on Instagram, it's Hassan D. Piker. On TikTok, it's Hassan D. Piker. It's just all over the place, man. I'm 31 years old. I'm

fucking boomer. Yeah. Yeah. At what age do you become a boomer? Because I feel like I hit that pretty hard recently where I'm noticing that my takes are definitely they're getting old no we're all we're all old we're all old let's be real

we we are I don't know what the like internet age is probably like 25 25 plus you're like you're dead you might as all be dead you should fucking think about ending it all I feel like it's pretty close to NFL running back terms where you

hit your peak on the internet between age of like 22 to 27 and then after that anything of us I was supposed to say I don't know anything that was soccer Hold on, hold on. You're like, your peak, your peak was 25 on the internet? I'm calling cap on that.

I think, no, so for me, now. For me, it's different. But I think that, like, in terms of being, uh, like, in tune with what the youths are discussing, like, when you're a real internet power user, I feel like you're 25, 26. As a teenager, I was off with the youth was discussing. Fuck that shit. So, Hassan, this is Aryan. He's, uh, he's joined his season in Houston.

He was an NFL running back. When do you think you, hit your prime like physically you're talking about me yeah i say 25 24 25 yeah all the hits start to add up it's not you you and i aren't so different erin you you i've absorbed hits online and slowing down a little bit mentally but still grinding out going for that next contract maybe move to miami then retire right away i would i would say we we have a harder time honestly like us on the internet is as broadcasters, I'd say it's probably a little bit harder. Like just a little bit more difficult than getting hit by like a 400 pound dude. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. We get. Yeah. So,

so Hassan, how would you describe yourself? Because I do, I would tune into your Twitch streams. They're very good. You're the just chatting king, right? You're like the number one person on Twitch who just chats that doesn't do it from a hot tub. Yeah, pretty much. I mean, there's like a couple other just chatting guys as well but uh twitch used to be a predominantly gaming platform and now it's it's no longer the case uh and yeah i'm i'm definitely the number one political uh broadcaster both on twitch and in general i think like on the left so we've got uh we got billy football here we have big tea i know you're a big fan of big tea um and then mad dog and avery are are behind the scenes right now so they're all joining us so um been one out there's a it's a

guy on here right i mean i know it's not arian uh i'm familiar with your work of i've you you've like uh you've been on twitch before i mean you still do yeah i used to yeah yeah i used to do it it's uh successful man we've got yeah twitch it's the internet in general man just giving your takes daily i don't know if i have to i don't know copy sometimes i get faded on the internet and i'd be like yo pull up i'm like fuck all this talking like pull up so it's not good for my health I feel that, except like, people do sometimes pull up, you know what I mean? And I don't want some fucking psychotic stalker dude to be like, yeah, I did actually pull up. I'm in Texas, though, so you step on the property for a game.

Fair. Yeah, Tom. Are you advocating for the Second Amendment? He is. Aaron's a big personal Second Amendment. I think he's the only gun owner on this show. I was a gun owner. I have not taken that out of my box.

I'm not for guns, but I've got. one just in case. No, we have a gun knife. Yeah, we have a gun knife. Have you heard about the gun knife, Hassan? No, I know about the gun bed. I do not know about the gun knife, but I am a fan of guns. I like shooting guns. Guns are fun. They're fun. And you should be very safe with them. That's my take. Yeah. The gun knife is something that a listener sent into us. It's a, it's a gun. But then when you pull the trigger on it, a knife comes out of the barrel. So it's not actually a gun. It doesn't shoot anything. It's just, it's a illegal weapon that's disguised as a more illegal

weapon. So I don't know really what the purpose is. The most useless fucking thing I've ever heard. Yeah. It's pretty dumb. Like it's better they just have a gun at that point, right? It's the same weapon that Dave Chappelle was his assailant who came on stage to get him was carrying. He had a gun knife. That's where

he originally, we're like, oh, let's get a gun knife. And then the bullet that came with it is also a cute little knife. There's a knife that comes out of the bullet too. A little exacto blade. Yeah, it's nice. But yeah, Big T is he leans more to the right. Billy is also like in many ways more conservative than than Big T is but yeah it's Big T is the one that you're thinking of I think you guys will get along

really well though maybe we had Felix on conservatives yeah we speak their I speak their language yeah so Big T are you are we going to this conversation with an open mind right now I go into every conversation with an open mind I love it I love it so do you want to just get into public schools right now or where do we we want to start? What's been in the news recently? I want to, I want to tap into his profession real quick because, um, the interesting thing about what you do, Maji, is, is kind of what's plaguing America. And it's not your fault, you know, that you've monetized it, but like, you're a huge political streamer, right? And political content in general is like a big

money-making machine, right? And so how do you balance like, really good business for you is just like really bad for society um it definitely gets conflicting i mean that's that's a really good question actually because um the highest numbers or the highest viewership i have usually is not during uh good times which are not exactly commonplace in american politics to begin with um but but usually in the worst of times like when um you know Russia invades Ukraine or things like global world changing events are happening. But I don't feel conflicted on my coverage over it or even making money off of it because my perspective is is entirely my own. It's unique. It's genuine. It's what I believe in. It's what

I've been doing for 10 years even when I wasn't making a boatloads of money. It's what I did it, the young Turks. So it's what I would do with my friends, even if I wasn't on the internet. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm not necessarily knocking you for it. I kind of think there's a place for it. My question is more leaning towards the state of humanity. Like, it's like people love blood, right? Like, they love blood in the water. And so, like, does that, because I'm a pessimist, and it's for reasons like that. Now, this, this, okay, I was about to ask, like, how does, where is you, where do you, where would you rate your pessimism like on, on a spectrum?

I mean, I'm, I think, I don't, I don't even think I'm a pessimistic person. I think I'm a realistic person, which is what every pessimistic person says, I think, except for you, you just straight up say it. But it's, I think, I think it's almost synonymous. If you're realist, then you have to be pessimistic because you don't see much. Yeah, I mean, the world of shit. I think that, uh, the most disastrous part of our existence is that, especially here in the United States of America, we have the capacity to live much better lives.

Like, I'm not talking about us. We fucking made it. We're literally influencers. It's the one job that everybody wants to have. It's the, it's the best thing, right? It's literally what everyone wants. It doesn't matter if you're the fucking inside of the White House. Doesn't matter if you're the president. It doesn't matter if you're, you know, a military veteran or whatever. Every single person ultimately wants to sell T-shirts. There's a Felix trope right there, Felix Biederman. And he's right. So we already have that. Our lives are good. But, um, Life is pretty chaotic and pretty awful for every single person, most of your listeners, most of my listeners, most of my members of my community, and it's awful by design. So the way I see it is that pain is consistent, regardless of my existence or not.

So even though I'm a pessimistic person, even though I'm a realistic person, and I see the awfulness that is brought upon us by a capitalist organization of the economy, I still believe that as long as you can marginally better your life and the lives of others around you, it's still worth it. I think it will be worth it. I have no proof of that concept, but it does give me a lot of fulfillment. It does give me a lot of fulfillment. And I always think of how society will flourish if men plant trees that they will never sit in the shade of. So that is what I try to instill in my community as well. that's what I that's that's what I live by now I got a couple questions on that

viewpoint here we go I'm not you know I just I just maybe this is coming from a spot where I don't I don't like emotionally I don't like that sort of depiction of everyone's living in awfulness and just sort of see brother you're not living in awfulness you're right I know you're probably doing all right true I mean but like for the average listener there's a lot of people out there the whole idea that everyone else is you know a victim of some awfulness, would you say that that awfulness doesn't coincide with everything that is ever taking place? That awfulness is sort of part of just reality and say, like, let's say there's a different structure. Let's say we're looking pre-industrial, almost maybe pre-agricultural

nation. Is that awfulness like a constant throughout all sort of, you know, times in history and times of human existence? Are you asking? me about primitive communism and like if there was awfulness in that time period because whatever you interpret it as I don't think so I mean but then again I'm not like

I'm not like an anarcho permittivist or anything I'm not like one of those like fucking oh I love Ted Kaczynski like we got a return to monkey type dudes you know what I mean I'm yeah no like but Liver King isn't that either that motherfucker lives in like a seven bathroom 7,000 square feet mansion in fucking Texas

just because he's like I mean no disrespect i love liver king okay i'm a liver boy myself however like come on you know what i mean like you yeah talking about how you you uh want to want to do like simulated hunts and whatnot or you want to return to you know yeah tribal uh lifestyles or whatever but you're living you live the most like used car salesman in texas lifestyle i've ever seen no i think that's that's a really great point honestly i think it's hilarious that liver king's taken that ted kiznzi ideology and become like a neo like uh taking that ideology and repurposing it in a different way is i think that's return to monkey except he's selling product he's selling product as liver king what he has ironically

done is taking uh you know industrial revolution and its consequences and literally turned it into neoliberalized it and turned it into marketing for fucking bullshit products like liver products supplements we had them out it's a supplement group we had them in why is that the go to why does everybody sell supplements well everyone sells supplements he's right like t-shirts too you see like aOC's got her own shop open uh marjorie taylor green that's how she's like fighting back against Biden and she's like I'm dropping some new fire merch by our I'm a bad of that shit though because I'm like anti like all I got is like haines t-shirts and black black and white teac because I don't like you know shilling for these big at like Louis

I hate that type of shit. So I'm a fan of everybody dropping the merch and you just got a whole bunch of merch of people that you fuck with. I'm a fan with that. Can we get back to something and maybe I'm the only one interested in that when you talk about primitive communism

what I kind of know what that means before our listeners and maybe for some people on this podcast what does that entail? Because I've heard this not theory but this sort of- Eric caught that too. Billy was like that was a very subtle way

being like I'm really smart but there are a lot of people in this room. No, it's a great. Great. I honestly, I don't think I'd be... Primitive accumulation is just like hunter-gatherer societies or like pre-enclosure societies.

It's just a Marxist designation for, for like not even industrial revolution, but like pre-enclosure societies where we had, there was no concept of like ownership over land. And of course, people, civilizations were not nearly as advanced as they are now, but there was still, you know,

some societal structure, some organizational structure, But post enclosure, which is like the, basically the closure of land and private ownership over land created a lot more warfare because there was a protection of that private property. There was a concept that you need to establish his private property, defend it. So that's what primitive, that's what primitive communism means to designate that era. So I've heard this also, this idea also explained with the concept of social debt and how that works in that debt was always something that was contributing to that sort of dynamic in that it wasn't sort of a commune per se, but each individual felt that whenever something was given, there wasn't an exchange, but rather the exchange was in the form of social debt to another. if someone brings you something, you then felt you had a point, like a subconscious debt that was then in exchange. I just, that dynamic I always feel, because there's two ways you could explain it, like with it being a debt system that was just up in the air.

I'm losing you. I don't know why. Discord does this sometimes. Sorry. I Discord does it sometimes where I can't hear you. Check, check. You're talking about debt? Yeah.

And sort of what are your opinion? Because there is an analogous theory that sort of that communism, was could be explained by a social debt system and a subconscious sort of application of debt in the way we kind of see it today. It just was never written down. It was never a formal structure. But any sort of contribution to the group was more of a, and you could almost say that that debt system could apply to what we have today. Are you, I mean, I guess there's many different ways of organizing society or there's

many different understandings of like how you can achieve communism or whatever that could be one of those methods I think what you're describing is closer probably to like anarcho-communism so it's more of an anarchist development where I guess that would be a

democratic organization around the abolition of debt but then but then creating social debt like hey an IOU system I guess yeah um that's one way to do it i i'm not like a super firm believer in that myself uh i get where you're coming from though i mean that's that's one way to do it it's just not like uh that's not socialism right in general that's not encompassing everything that that socialism can be so

getting back to the original question do you think that quote unquote they experienced any awfulness in those systems certainly of course as a consequence of of having in adequate technology especially like and and awfulness will continue you know what i mean there's no there's no solution there's no uh silver bullet to like ending awfulness like there's still going to be there's still going to be dudes can't get pussy even if we're living in a fucking communist utopia okay and that's probably going to cost some problems like do you see what i'm saying like that's not there's always going to be one thing or another that establishes some hierarchy uh we will move on to

different things that we find to be important. I am a firm believer that we should at the very least equalize the material conditions of all people across the board universally. And I think that there is an advocacy for that for even a pro-capitalist position where Americans love talking about fucking equal opportunity. We don't have equal opportunity. We've never had it. And we most likely will never have it because it hinges on.

This system hinges on not offering equal opportunity. but only the lie of equal opportunity. So I could turn around and say, hey, bootstrap it. Yeah. So I think that if there was genuine equal opportunity, then we would be able to maximize on so many of the people that were underserving currently that could be incredible geniuses. You know what I mean?

Big T. It's a bit of a cliche, but to say it's like, you know, the kid who could technically maybe cure fucking cancer is like dying right now for no reason. because he doesn't have access to clean water. Big T. I see you're mulling some things over in your head right now. What are you thinking? Not really. I just, I don't, I don't necessarily agree. I think we define. You don't agree with equal opportunity? No, no, no. I think you and I define the word opportunity differently. Are there people who are born into more advantageous circumstances in this country than others? Obviously, of course.

that doesn't mean that people who are necessarily born into less fortunate circumstances don't have the opportunity to do things that anybody else can do. It might be more difficult. Okay. So you don't agree with equal opportunity. How are you getting that? Well, I mean, here, I'll just, I'll do them out for a second, and I'll ask you like this, like a kid born in Zimbabwe doesn't have the same level of

access to public education or even a means of survival as a kid born in like whatever Connecticut suburb you came from right sure okay so it with respect to that then there is no equal opportunity right that kid's never going to that kid's never going to have the same level of opportunity as someone who was born in a nice zip code in America sorry someone just rang the doorbell um anyway now think about that for from the exact same perspective within America, within the same dynamics, within the United States.

Someone born in the south side of Chicago does not have the same level of access to adequate means of shelter, safety, you know, even food. I mean, food scarcity is a huge problem for children in underserved neighborhoods, especially. They rely on the public education system. They rely on Michelle Obama's awful food program

to feed themselves. think about that that's like the most for millions of children in this country the most nutritious meal most caloric uh the food with the most caloric density they get is at public school during lunches so obviously when we live in a system like that if you're like upper middle class and you went to like a nice public school and then you know maybe you fucked around but you got into like a nice state school or something you know what i mean got it into a frat you had some fun like there is no there is no equal opportunity for you in comparison to a kid who just was born in a different zip code

and got fucked over and will never be able to have the same level of the same access to education as you did or the same comfort that you did. I think we'd need to resolve that. I think most Americans would agree with that. Yeah, I don't necessarily disagree with most of what he said.

I just think that, I mean, that would imply if those kids don't have the same opportunity. that none of them would ever go to good schools or get into a good college or and that that happens well i don't know if it's like the same but that's not to say not the same level right we're talking like percentages and you're right like they have to work 10 times harder to get that same opportunity yeah which it which really yeah i don't think of equal opportunity i see where y'all are coming from i don't i agree with most of that i think what what we found with Big T is that we agree on

on most things in principle. Big T just hates being yelled at by libs and they're annoying, which is which is, which is true. And I've tried to explain to him several times like yeah, libs are fucking annoying. I do think that's a lot of the problem with the Democratic party. Yeah, the libs are

giving the Democratic Party a very bad name. And some really bad ideas which they've kind of earned at this point. But yeah, I've tried to explain to him how you know, you're, you are not a lib. You hate libs. yeah i don't even think the democratic party is good to be honest like i don't think the liberals are giving the democratic party a bad name i think the democratic party in and of itself is just uh one side of

that same exact uh coin so that's why they constantly find bipartisan compromise on things that um you know things that are going to happen like uh endless wars overseas right there's always there's always money there's always money in the banana stand for uh i don't know blowing up like laser are striking some fucking kid in Yemen. Yeah. But the same could not be said for helping people living in West Virginia that don't even have access to dental care. So you've got to have a fucking NGO drop in and, you know, open up a daily facility

to give dental care and health care to people living in West Virginia like they're, you know, like they're in war-torn Somalia. And the reason why I'm using those examples, a place like Zimbabwe or Somalia or any of these other countries is not necessarily because there's like some intrinsic quality to them. It's because, uh, despite being incredibly resource rich, these countries have obviously historically been undermined by Western nations, uh, exploited. And, uh, their, their natural resources are still being stolen from them without offering adequate development to them. Uh, jumping back to the, the whole like, lives pissing us off conversation. Uh, one thing, so this episode

that we're doing is going to be wrapped around president. social crimes and how basically if you're going to be present, you've committed a crime at some point. I'm of the mindset that after you become president, you should just go straight to jail. You just, that's the, that's the bargain you have to make. It's like you can, yeah, you can be president, but the day that you're out of office, guess what, you're in prison for the rest of your life. We'll see who that'll separate the wheat from the chat and see if anybody really ever truly wants to be a president, which nobody in their right mind should ever want to be president. I think that's a fucked up mindset to have from the get go. But kind of wrapping that

around the conversation of presidential crimes. It's been interesting, really interesting in the last few days and really the last two, three years overall to see all the libs become the biggest cheerleaders of the FBI and law enforcement when it suits their causes. And then for the same token, see conservatives start to hate the FBI, which is like, okay, has anybody been paying attention to anything that's happened throughout the course of the FBI's existence in this country? So are you the mindset that, for the most part, conservatives and liberals are, they're just going to root for whoever's taking their side at any given time?

Or how do you explain the shift of libs to being just completely in love with law enforcement and the FBI when it comes to what they're doing to Donald Trump? I think liberals have always loved law enforcement, though. We're talking about like voter libs. They've never had a problem with law enforcement. Joe Biden literally ran on giving more. money to the police liberals democratic party has historically always uh not only agreed with the republican perspective even if they campaign against it um when you look at uh the democratic parties like legislative agenda uh they are always they're always about beefing up the surveillance state and the

security the security apparatus and giving more money they love the uh you know foreign police the american military well not the military members but just the military industrial complex and they love domestic police so it's not that crazy to consider in my opinion you have Democrats still blaming Bernie supporters

for saying defund the police and saying this is why we lost the Trump like or Hillary Hillary fans anyway like they still say that to this day like you're the reason for Trump like we're like what the fuck Democrats love the police

do we think uh do we think that ukraine is being used as a new spending ground for a military industrial complex yes yeah good job 100 percent i mean we're just the budget the budget allocation for ukraine um from our our expenditure our military expenditure is almost exactly the same as afghanistan and it's growing now a little bit more than that now but it was like the the allocation this past year was straight up like to the dime. I believe it was like $42 billion originally that came out was exactly the

expenditure for Afghanistan. Yeah. That money's got to go somewhere. I got a question about that because I do not keep up with that because I'm just disinterested at some point. You got to cut yourself off of Warren Affairs or else you go crazy. So like I'm just disinterested in it. And so what is the

the reasoning for backing Ukraine to this extent? because they're not the only country getting invaded. They're not the only, you know what I mean? Like, what is that? I don't really understand it. I've not looked into it.

Ukraine is either going to be controlled as a vassal state by Russia, or it's going to be controlled by Western interests. So what ends up happening here is America wanted to use Ukraine as a great opportunity to, you know, undermine cripple a foreign, adversary. Now, that does not mean that there wasn't legitimate emancipatory interest from the Ukrainians with respect to not being fucking invaded by Russia because that's, you know, not great, really fucked up as a matter of fact. But instead of being the global, you know, dominant hegemonic power that could say, hey, we are going to put together a bilateral agreement. We're going to put

together an agreement between the United States and Russia, because those are the two main actors here. The interest of the Ukrainian people only goes so far. America uses it as a justification for further agitating and dumping $42 billion of small arms and also weapons into the country that they were already going to sell off to the military industrial complex regardless. But beyond that, they don't really care. So, The goal there, if they truly wanted to manage the situation, they would have immediately sat down and been like, don't do this. You already have these viable contracts in Europe.

You're supplying European countries with natural gas. Don't fuck the shit up. Don't go into Ukraine. Let's institute and actually reinforce the Minsk agreements. But they didn't do that. Instead, they were like, Russia's going to invade. Russia's going to invade. We have good intelligence.

We have good intelligence. And then Russia did invade. And then they were like, see, we told you, Russia invaded. Now we, now we're going to give unlimited funds to Ukraine. And then they talked about it endlessly for a month. And now no one seems to care because we moved on. Will Smith slapped Chris Rock. And then it was over.

And they ended the Ukraine discourse like entirely. He slapped the, he slapped the Ukrainian discourse right off the fucking market. Something. I actually think Billy made that point right when it happened. I know, I did. I did. something that I've been thinking of and looking at analogies between, you know, Charlie Wilson's war, Afghanistan versus Russia and what we're seeing right now in Ukraine, you know, sending arms. Ukraine, the vast majority of Ukrainian people are, you know, just fighting for the sovereignty of their nation and fighting off a huge aggressor.

But a lot of the, to defend their sovereignty, there's been a lot of bolstering up of the certain groups that were existing before. this current war back when there was fights in the Donvos region for Crimea and there's a good amount, not the majority, but there's a good amount of serious like white nationalist extremists in the country. What do you mean?

That would never America would never Right. America would never train an arm especially the CIA would never train an arm right wing paramilitary groups in a country specifically to to you know

ultimately have that reactionary group overtake the entire country's governing structure that would never happen except for literally every single time that has happened all the way from Latin America to Afghanistan. So what's the best possible outcome

because it does seem like we never learn our lesson when it comes to the shit. The only time, well it worked in you could say that it worked in Japan, right, after World War II, that nation building that yeah we we they became an ally to us because we kind of

forced them to become an ally by being so involved in everything that I'm doing in in Afghanistan it was certainly like the opposite we're just like okay see you know it's welcome for the bombs what happens in Afghanistan is you have you know the freedom fighters who then become the Taliban you know then there's a vast network that this funding is caused because you have a lot of you know a lot of a lot of not pilgrims, but people who go into Afghanistan and fight against Russia, you know,

like, are we going to see a world, a global network of these sort of right wing extremists because of all the funding? Yeah, because that already exists. Look, the Azab Battalion is the one that people talk about the most. Ukrainian nationalism, much like nationalism of any other country that has like, that has had a nation building project against an imperial power is somewhat complicated. And what I mean by that is there's there's the good type of nationalism, pan-African nationalism, and then there's the bad type of nationalism when you're already the dominating power, when you're already like status nationalism, when you were already a well-established state, right? So the inception of Ukrainian nationalism has, you know, some interesting routes, some

interesting partnerships. And what I mean by that is, of course, Nazis. And, you know, some of the Ukrainian nationalist groups or most of the Ukrainian nationalist groups during World War II sided with Nazi Germany because they thought that Nazi Germany would give them an established Ukrainian state against Russia and, you know, protect them from the USSR. So that's where that inception comes from. And that doesn't, that attitude doesn't go away. Like that's, that's something that people ride for. It's not all that far back in their history, right? So that's a, that's a very real opportunity for for uh i don't know the the intelligence community to take advantage of because all of a sudden when you have an imperial power uh when you have uh you know a regional superpower like

russia coming into your country and invading now you're emboldened those nationalist groups are going to be emboldened they're the ones who have the most training they're the ones who are willing and able to fight back and they have been as you pointed out fighting back in the in the eastern regions in Dombos. So now their claims and their anger is seen as just. In times of peace, people might have

looked to them and gone, all right, these guys are hooligans, they're paramilitaries, like they're a little fucking wild, like what are they doing? But in times of war, all of a sudden, they're the heroes. They're the ones you have to venerate. They're the ones you look to to save you.

And their cause is now just. I think America understands that concept really well and uses it weaponizes it against against countries that want to develop some level of autonomy so that network does exist yes so the craziest thing now is like are we going to see coming out of this 20 30 years down the line are we going to have like a Nazi al Qaeda I think we already I mean we most of the Nazi groups that we have that are in operation operate very similarly similarly to al Qaeda the only difference is that like there white. So we in the Western

world are not trained to see it in that same way. I guess maybe my perspective is a little different because I'm Turkish. I grew up in Turkey. You know, Muslim family. I'm Muslim. I understand fundamentalism like religious fundamentalism in a different way. Like I get that al-Qaeda

are the fucking conservatives of that region. You see what I'm saying? Like we have Y'Al-Qaeda, which is the same shit, except they're white so they're less threatening to us living in the West. I mean, you see those pictures you see those pictures of uh like you know someone with an ar 15 in one hand in a bible in the other hand and then there's like the analogous picture of like a freedom fighter

yeah that meme goes around a lot yeah so so where's this where's this going to go in the u.s where we're seeing it you know more and more recently that that one dude went to the FBI headquarters in Cincinnati with a nail gun i think this is where she's like he's like i feel like i figured out the whole bulletproof glass problem and it's just using a nail gun you probably got that from I don't know no jewelry thieves that's what that's their big thing oh really Europe Europe has so many more not petty thefts but like Grant like Grant theft auto type heist they've got high we don't have enough ice in the United States like a classification of America right there I need more heist I need like an Italian robberies yeah bank robberies I need all that paintings

museums 100% art heist we don't have any like there's no robbery and America that that involves two guys in a van with like a headset like hacking into a system yeah like what happened yeah that dude that went to cincinnati and he's got the nail gun and he's like yeah i'm out here trying to fight the fbi i that problem's probably going to get worse before it gets better wouldn't you say yeah but i think that like uh these cooks are always going to be around you know what i mean there's a their brains are fried in in different ways than like our brains are fried i guess but everyone's brain is kind of fucking fried for the same thing that I was talking about

we're constantly online but we're incredibly alienated and ultimately something just really breaks your brain there's like a final snapping moment at half the time these guys are already like under surveillance by the FBI because they could be an asset, a wonderful asset down the line maybe

because like every time this happens they're like the FBI knew about the suspect like every time every time some shit like this happens is like okay well thanks thanks for letting us no um but but now that they're the ones that are that they're the ones under attack like the fbi is actually the target this might motivate them to be like okay you know what this is a real threat because it's happening to me uh not necessarily i think there i think the the uh law enforcement agencies like ultimate power is to make things go the same way that it was not to

disrupt not to be not to have like any sort of serious disruptive forces that that offend the the established, well-establish hierarchy. So a couple of these, like, crazy guys here and there popping off, I don't think is necessarily going to rock the boat too much, especially because, like, it's a part of our everyday existence here in America. Like, mass shootings are happening nonstop. We were pretty, like, I mean, even Yuvaldi, we got over collectively, rather quickly, you know? Sandy Hook was, Sandy Hook was in the media, in the public.

for months. Even Parkland was in the public consciousness for at least a month and a half. And I know this because I spoke at March for Our Lives, the, you know, gun rally that was put together by the Parkland students when the Parkland shooting first happened. And then I spoke at March for Our Lives again when the Yuvaldi shooting happened. And I'm good friends with some of the organizers, some of the victims of the Parkland shooting, Cameron Caskey and I was talking to him about this and I said why did you guys like

why did you guys mobilize so quickly and yet there wasn't as big as a crowd this time. It didn't seem like there was enough motivation and he said well we had a month after Parkland to be able to organize because it was still in the public consciousness but after Evalde

we had three days and then after that it's like leaving the news cycle people are going to lose interest people are not going to want to rally Yeah. Now, because you're so, let's, and this is very hard to say, and I don't mean to say this is like to dismiss it, but like putting the whole gun access issue to the side for a second when looking at these events, what do you think is setting off these perpetrators of these terrible acts? Do you think that there's a concerted somewhere online? What do you think is, for lack of a better term, radicalizing these kids to go do. Do you think that there's a concerted somewhere online? What do you think is, for lack of a better term, radicalizing these kids to go, do. such terrible things i mean i think it's um it's a it's a it's a there's this sense of unease about uh everyone's future it's hard for us to grasp that because we are also now a little bit older

and becoming more financially secure in our generation but when you're younger um there is i feel like there's no hope there's no hope for the future because uh you know you got climate change lingering as the ever-present threat that is going to destroy everything, destroy life as you know it. And then also on top of that, your job opportunities are incredibly limited. That's part of the reason why everybody just wants to be on TikTok. Everybody just wants to be a TikTok star or an influencer and sell t-shirts. Because it's like one of the few jobs where you can like actually earn a decent living and not, you know, not be someone else's bitch for the rest of your life and and I think people sense that even if they don't even if they can't

communicate it verbally they sense that unease they feel that and I think that that probably destroys that warps your consciousness that destroys your sense of self and then um the ongoing structural inefficiencies are even if it's a small thing it's just like it causes you to snap way quicker. If you're mentally unstable and you step on a Lego, your reaction to that could be a trigger for much, much worse actions to come, right? It's just compounding on top of all of the anger, resentment, frustration, alienation in your life. So I think everyone is in that, everyone is living in a powder cake pretty much. We talk about Alex Jones a lot on the show. And my theory is that he's a CIA operative in in one sense or another like there's been he has had contact with the

CIA and has actually uh you know he might not be like a full time informant but he's definitely been in contact with them and been used to put things out to destabilize some people and to and to move people in one direction or the other he's pretty much fucked over now after the sandy hook trials I think his his coffers are going to run pretty dry after that so he's probably looking for a payday I've heard through the grapevine that he would be willing to fight in a rough and rowdy. So that's the boxing tournament that we put on here once every couple months. Now, I'm conflicted by this because, one, I don't, I think Alex Jones is a piece of shit. And he's either a pussy or a fraud, maybe both.

But I also recognize a chance to get Alex Jones to have his ass kicked on live television, which I would love to see. your name has come up once or twice because you're a big dude you're a big physical presence as Colin Coward would put it uh would you consider fighting Alex Jones in hand-to-hand combat uh no I wouldn't even here's and here is why um well one um I've gotten many fights in my youth I'm not a big fan of fighting in general I think even when you lose even when you win you lose the fight ultimately as you just ended up fighting um but also on top of that

I don't even want to debate Alex Jones like I've had opportunities his producers have reached out to me in the past and I just don't want to even be around them I appreciate him as an entertainer I've been a big Alex Jones fan for a very long time okay I'm talking scanner darkly public access days you know I've always been like

this guy's fascinating right I don't agree with his takes I can separate the art from the artist okay we do that a lot Yeah. And I have no issue doing that. But I do think that like, I do think that people like Alex Jones do constitute like a viable threat, a legitimate threat to other people's lives and safety, maybe even including myself and my families. So I just, I would rather stay away from people like that because their fan bases are fucking deranged, dude. Yeah, he is the ultimate Lego, Lego that you can step on. So if you're, if you're in a bad place mentally and you come across Alex Jones, he's tossing red meat at you. He knows exactly what. you want to hear to get you upset he pinpoints exactly who you should be mad at and then by implication if every if you take Alex Jones at his word and everything that he says you believe

to be 100% factual of course you would go to violent links of course you would think that like this is a direct threat to everybody that I know and love which is why I'm saying like when he's when he's at the Capitol and he's like riling people up if you believe everything that Alex Jones has told you yeah of course you should fucking storm the Capitol that makes perfect sense if you totally believe it but he will never do it and when he when he says things about like 9-11 what he believes happened on 9-11 of course you should try to overthrow your own government if they're willing to do that thing that he says they're doing but he doesn't actually believe it or even sandy hook yeah even sandy hook if the government is so insane and the government

has done a lot of fucked up shit which we were going to actually talk about right i thought we're going to talk about the crimes of president yeah but um if the government has done a bunch of really fucked up shit, okay? And it is not outside of the scope of reason. There's a non-zero chance that this government could do something like that crazy, which I don't think, obviously, I'm

not like a Sandy Hook deny or anything. I'm just thinking that the government does have the capability of doing such gruesome things. Then, yeah, your righteous cause, the righteous action to take in that circumstance is to rise up, you know what I mean?

Yeah. So these guys are these guys are brain broken and uh Alex Jones is fueling that that anger so so before you got to go uh I know you've got your stream that you hop by you stream so much man I don't know how you do it you're you're kind of insane I'm I am insane no I'm I'm a freak how many hours a week do you spend streaming I mean I'm on I'm in front of the camera every day from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. at the minimum. So that's, that's, uh, that's eight hours a day no matter what. That's crazy. So, so, so seven days a week. I know you got to get going. Do you have just a couple of minutes to talk about some presidents of crimes? All right. No, it's fine. We can be, we can be, we can be a little late. I already,

I already told my audience that I was going to be a little late because I'm being, I'm doing this podcast. Okay. So do you have any that you want to talk about right off the top of your head or should we go into our, our treasure trove? Well, I definitely want to go into your treasure trove. But one thing I want to establish before we get into this is like, obviously there are crimes. like, you know, whatever the law is, right? There is the international law, which the American government and Western nations have written so that they can purposely weaponize it against smaller nations and justify their war crimes against those smaller nations.

And then there's the morality. If we're going to think about it from the perspective of like morality, right, which I think is more important than legality, then every American president is a war criminal, 100% no matter what, every single one. like absolutely i will say that with my chest uh we can talk about even like bill clinton norm tromsky is a really good war crimes of the president like lecture kind of where he talks 14 minutes about basically like every president uh every contemporary president post world war two

and the war crimes that they engaged in and it's really good like all the coups that they facilitated um and all the death that they caused and destabilization that they caused worldwide um from a moral perspective there all war criminals and then you have the legal I guess war crimes like Barack Obama going on a drone

assassination campaign which even included like the assassination of an American citizen yeah we so we think he's still on the sticks we think that we still in the sticks we think that Biden all the credit that he got for Zohari

it's just actually like Obama he's in the back room with Xbox you think so no I don't think I don't think I think it's a well-oiled machine like you don't have to have like a legitimate person at the top running the operation what about Jimmy Carter though you think you think Jimmy Carter's a war criminal he's the one that I've been trying to pinpoint a crime I've been trying to pin a crime one yeah oh yeah Jimmy Carter has a bunch yeah there's only one president uh in this I find this a hilarious story uh there's only one president that's been convicted of a crime wall in office like a real like a like a like a civil crime yeah you listen to CSS Grant. Yeah. Booked for speeding. Yeah. They took it.

It's hilarious. They put him in cuffs. It was hilarious. Him and he liked, what was the term? He liked to be behind two well, uh, well fed speedlings, uh, his horses. He was in a carriage and he was arrested by, uh, an African American, uh, Union war veteran, who was a Metro, a DC Metro police officer who arrested, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, D. metro police officer who arrested uh ulyss s s grant for speeding uh after three warnings and booked

them cuffed him took him to the station you got to have a set of nuts on you to arrest the president for speeding how how hilarious is that uh i love that that's badass like why don't president now suck and that goes back to obama too like i think obama is way more fascinated with like cutting netflix deals and shit and like being friends with j z and biance than like actually fucking drone striking another like 14 year old in Pakistan you know what I mean like I don't think he gives his shit about that as much I think he did that not for fun

but because he had to so he could become best friends with Jay Z and Beyonce yeah he gets that Spotify bag him and Bruce Springsteen had that podcast yeah I listened to it how was it it was disappointing it actually made me feel better as a podcaster being like hey yeah not everybody can do this shit I'm a way better

podcaster than Barack Obama's that's just a fact the numbers bear that out I kicked the shit out of him on on any metric that you have minutes uh downloaded or uh minutes to listen per download fucking sucks at that he's um the the amount of money that's thrown out him though like just at least produce a consistent product barra yeah he's j i think he did like three episodes and then just pieced out he's like not for me this content life is i'd love to see barraq try to stream for seven hours a day or eight hours to be fair that is like very there's par for the course for being an influencer though you get the fucking bag up front and you're like ah i can't do this

anymore too much so he's he's a perfect influencer now he's he's killed it he's done it i mean think about if barracco did we talk about this barrac obama twitch streaming his drone strikes i don't know if we talked about that now i don't think i don't think that one came across the sticks he get he get banned i think yeah so trump got banned from twitch twitch yeah they i mean twitch would never ban obama though obama is like obama can do whatever the fuck he wants liberals will i mean liberals venerate and treat liberals treat obama like uh like a deity in the same way that uh republicans treat uh donald trump yeah or or even like regan i feel like when obama when he does pass away one of these days uh libs are going to want to put his name on

everything right and then conservatives will fight whereas i i don't think that when you know the republicans went on a naming spree of everything after regan when he died i think that democrats for the most part were like, yeah, sure, put his name on whatever you want. There wasn't, like, any pushback, but I feel like it's going to be way different. Very good airport. What, Reagan National? Maybe my favorite that I've been to recently. It's not bad. It's not a bad airport.

I fly in and out pretty frequently. Where is it? It's, it's, it's right across the river from D.C. So it's, there's no actual. But they just redid JFK. That shit is lit. It is nice. They did LaGuardia.

The irony there is that there is that Ronald Reagan, Ronald Reagan is a reason why, like, airliners are dog shit in America. You know, I mean, the corporate consolidation of airliners that, like, directly happened with with the, the Reagan era policy of, like, union busting, strike busting, and aggressive actions that the federal government took towards, you know, people who wanted a better pay.

Yeah, he fired all the air traffic controllers. Yeah, they went on strike. Which is, which is ironic that, you know, he now has, like, he now has an airport named after him that actually runs well, I guess. Yeah, but counterpoint. isn't it isn't a good thing to like would you want an airport to be named after you because everybody hates going to the airport it depends right i mean it depends if it's a good

airport then then fucking sure yeah i don't know anything about laguardia what he did what his policies were i just fucking hate the guy because his airport sucks yeah yeah well you know so here's the thing okay um obama's black so they're not going to let they're they're only going let the liberals name like underserved and impoverished areas under Obama. It's like the same

concept as like MLK. MLK Boulevard is like historically always in some of the most fucked over communities. And the same with Obama too. Obama Boulevard's like operate in a similar capacity. Republicans really are

very good at getting even the biggest fucking losers like Confederate generals slapped on to some of the nicest things. It's like, how do you get away with that? Yeah, so, Billy, who else do we have for some presidential crimes here? So, Teddy Roosevelt owned a couple of exotic species that are now illegal. He had a whole menagerie. I think we talked about this one time.

He had a huge zoo, which technically not, he had a zoo but no permit from back in the day. So technically a crime, got away with it. But then we have the classic Watergate. we got Nixon then we got technically Clinton in some regards but those are the only real uh Iran contra yeah right I mean you got you got Reagan Reagan did a bunch of shit yeah uh towards the end of Reagan's tenure he was he was everything that Joe Biden is now in terms of like teetering on the edge of dementia and oh yeah but he was he had a great fall guy set up Oliver North, maybe the all-time greatest fall guy, just kept his mouth shut, did his time,

came back knowing he had a bag waiting for him a conservative talk radio. He was a very, very good patsy to put up to that. And then his CIA director pardoned everyone anyway when he became president. So there was that. They tried to impeach Andrew Johnson for the Tenure of Office Act. He may have been, but he got out of it. Yeah. Who is it, William Henry Harrison?

He's probably the only one that's not a war criminal, right? because he died in 28 days or something like that. Oh, yeah. He's probably clean. He's probably the only president that's in heaven. Hmm. I got a good one that you probably will never see in lists like that. Okay?

Are you guys ready for this? I'm ready. I'm excited. George Washington. Oh. George Washington actually violated the law regularly by taking advantage of a loophole at the time. And this is actually something. I talk about regularly with respect to like the age old debate about like oh the founders were

very conflicted on slavery like no they fucking weren't okay also what do you mean conflicted on slavery there were plenty of fucking people at the time they were like no that's really fucked up don't do that um and and the evidence I used to that is the the loophole that George Washington regularly used to ensure that his slaves never got free okay hold on I'm going to read it to you I don't want to fuck it up. Okay, so there was a statute when Washington was around that enslaved people would have to be freed after living six months inside of, inside of where is it? Which state was it? Was it Pennsylvania?

I think it was, yes. In 1780, Pennsylvania passed the gradual abolition act. a law that freed people after they turned 28 and that automatically freed any slave who moved to the state and lived there for more than six months. So George Washington, in an effort to evade said law, because he had a bunch of slaves, would quietly have his wife move all of his slaves

outside of the state before the six-month period passed. And there was still, despite these attempts to hold on to his property, own a judge, a 22-year-old slave, escaped when she learned that the Washington's intended to give her to a relative as a wedding present. She made it at the Portsmouth, New Hampshire, where she married and began a life as a free woman. Judge was one of the thousands of black people

who escaped the freedom, both independently and as a part of the loose network that would later be known as the Underground Railroad. But Washington, on top of that, you know, still technically evaded the authorities, knowing full well that this was immoral, illegal, and yet he still end up trafficking his slaves across state boundaries in an effort to make sure that they were never freed as the law intended.

That's so fucked up. And honestly, like, there's a million things that are fucked up about the situation. But the fact that you're giving a person to another person as a wedding present, what a shitty time to live in? And everybody was like, yeah, that's cool. That's normal. That's our president. Yeah.

I mean, he had, he had 150 slaves. people it's just like something very strange at least for me that like i don't understand i didn't grow up in america i grew up in turkey the fact that like i mean turkish public education of course uh has its problems as well about uh you know avoiding certain historic atrocities that the ottoman empire and the turtish government have committed um however uh it is wild that like america i would have expected would be a little bit more open-minded about like you know genuinely discussing the crimes of our founding fathers here in the United States. And they just like totally avoid that.

They say like, oh, George Washington was super chill with the slaves. Like, they're fucking slaves. Like, that's insane. Yeah. Uh, jumping back to what we were talking about earlier with Nick Adams. His other favorite person in the world is Enis Freedom. So I expect that you've got some takes on him. We did a little bit of a, we didn't like a medium dive.

I wouldn't say a deep dive. But we looked up some of his education in the past. and the people that he grew up around and how they may or may not be in touch with the CIA asset. Yeah, what's up with him from your perspective? So Fidullah Gulen is a Muslim cleric that lives in the Poconos in a fucking compound. He is a CIA asset, okay?

Straight up. Fidulae Giran and Areda originally from the same tribe, I guess. Not even a tribe, but like they kind of developed in that same movement, that same like Islamist movement. and then they had a falling out and America wanted to utilize Fethullah Gulen in a coup d'etat in Turkey that failed that actually ended up reinforcing Aidan's power as a matter of fact

pretty bloody a lot of civilians died they were refueling on American bases there was a parallel government basically of like Gulenists because of the power that these two had had been able to achieve inside of Turkey, inside of like all matter of government all the way up to like judges, police force, you know, police forces and even in the military.

And Fidullah Gulan failed in that Kutat, but N.S. Kantar is a product of his schools. So Fidel-Guran has a lot of Islamist schools all around the world. And I think the original intention for the United States was once they funded Wahhabis fundamentalists in Pakistan once they beefed up like the Saudi royal family and Wahhabist

Wahhabist extremists all around the world they were like oh fuck we need a we need a counterbalance this we need a more tolerant more moderate Islamist approach so they saw Fetu Lakudan as the guy to basically create not madrasas in the same way that you would with Wahhabist

fundamentals of Pakistan and whatnot but instead with schools Turkish schools they're all over African nations they're all They're even all over in the United States as well. There are plenty of, you know, Yunnanist schools, and certainly they are all over Turkey.

And NS Kontad is a product of one of these schools. I actually never ended up playing basketball with him, but he was in Ankara in Salmani. So, like, every one of my friends played basketball with him. And he was believed to be faking his age, too, which is, like, common practice in Turkey, where you say you were born at a different time than you actually were born

so you're like much larger than everybody else and then the advantages of that are incredible so there's some insider tea for you on NS Contad so that he could become influential and like going to the NBA and becoming to be influential for that group the NBA thing is like just because he's good it's the same shit that you know the

you're like if you've ever read like Malcolm Gladwell or whatever it's the same shit they like it's the advantages that you get if you were born earlier in the year rather than, you know, towards the end of it, right? Yeah, we have that the Little League World Series where there will always be like a 15-year-old kid. I am 12. The Danny Almonte, yeah, of the world. Was that in the outsider?

Yeah, that's the book. The outsiders, the outliers? Outliers. Yeah. We're talking about January births. Oh, January births. That's not the, that's not the right one because I'm January. I was always the smallest.

Right, right. I think it's like, I don't know. You might have gotten cooked on that. Your jeans might have Yeah I didn't get that good job I was late January though At the very end

But yeah if you're born You know if you're born in like August If you're one of those like Deadline babies Where you're right on the cusp And you can go either way Yeah your parents should definitely hold you back And you'll be much better in sports

Yeah Aaron when we're What's your birthday July July 25th And Erin I think Aryan's muted August

My bad up I hit the space bar August 24th There you go So Aryan foster that's proof right there like the only reason you made it to the NFL is because you were born in August and you were bigger than no grit no determination no like hard work it's just just that that big boost yeah I was actually I was actually younger so they just put me in school

regular so I was younger than there so I graduated at 17 so oh so he was that's it's screwed Malcolm Gladwell is a fucking bone yeah that was brutal um anything else you want to we want to tap into real quick um Should we talk about the papers, Marlago, just because, honestly, I've looked into it. I just want someone to tell me some, like, actual facts. Yeah, he's got, he's got confidential shit. And then they asked him to return it a few times. And he returned some of it, but he didn't return all of it.

And so now there's some people that are like, well, big deal. It's confidential papers. The other people that are like, well, he was selling nuclear codes to the Saudis. And I think the truth is probably, if I were to guess, I feel like the truth is very boring. and that it's just Donald Trump being like... You're cutting out again, by the way, after if I were to guess. Can you hear me now? Is this okay?

Yeah, I can hear you. All right. If I were to guess, I'd say the truth is probably very boring and that it's Donald Trump being like, I don't feel like giving all my shit back to you because I'm Donald Trump and I get to keep it. And so... And I want to show like the wettest dentist at Mara Lago, these like top secret papers. Exactly.

Yeah, like he's... You have to have something for the, like, um, to showry tour for like the, the, the, Black Diamond tour that people are doing at Mar-a-Lago. So he's like, check this out. This was the nuclear code from like May to June of 2017. You can see it right here. He's probably doing something like that with it or just having it because he doesn't want to give it back because he doesn't feel like giving it back and he doesn't like

being told what to do. I don't think that he's out there like a fucking James Bond movie like a former president selling nuclear codes to any foreign asset. But they're just using that to like scare him and say, okay, you should have given this stuff back. but you didn't now we're coming after you just real no that the funniest part is like they they tried to retrieve this in like the least invasive way possible because the fb i doesn't want to fucking like disrupt the forces you know what i mean they don't want to rock the boat so they literally

politely asked them and he was just like now so then they have to retrieve it oh it's i i really i really hope it's like the sun's stealing the uf like UFO secrets like stuff that like everyone wants to know As like the president, everyone thinks the president knows everything. I think they're actually kept much in the dark about a lot when they get into office, like all the secrets, quote unquote. You think it's like Eric Trump? Yeah, or Barron. He's just like.

Oh, yeah. That's, that's another thing. Baron Trump is going to be an elite NBA player. Oh, yeah. He's got. He was born in August. He's too slim, though. His build is like too frail.

He needs to fucking beef up a little bit. We'll fill out that. Shet Holmgren. Yeah. I think if he picks up Shett Holmgren's game, you can definitely get something going. But yeah, I feel like... He needs to get off the sticks. Like, I think he's playing too much like Fortnite or whatever the fuck.

You know what I mean? He needs to like start playing, start playing basketball. I mean, there is a chance that he is a viewer of your Twitch streams. Like he might... It's not unthinkable, right? Ted Cruz's daughter is definitely, well, I don't know if they watch me, but I know that they, for a fact, they watch all like the Minecrafters and they're like super woke. And they kind of despise Ted Cruz.

Which is cool. I love that. But for Baron Trump, like, or it's either he's going to get beefed up and he's going to be like a versatile player, okay, like a strong power forward.

Or he's going to be the classic like seven foot center guy that like everyone makes YouTube videos of that just fucking fails because his knees buckle by the time he's like made it to the NCAA. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Like a guy that Evan three guy who can like dunk without jumping. Yeah. And eventually he just gets dunked on a lot because.

because he's not athletic, but he plays basketball because he's so big. And if you're seven feet tall, it's way easier to play basketball and not love it than to just go around and everybody that you meet is like, hey, why don't you play basketball? Yeah. Yeah. He just caves. He's like, he just caves to that pressure and then becomes like another shitty like seven foot guy with bad knees.

It would be kind of sick if he got like awesome handles and was an incredible dribbler and had just like so much sauce. And it was Baron Trump like lighting the world on fire. as like a seven foot point guard that can actually like bring the ball down the court like the next Magic Johnson is Baron Trump that would be interesting

Oh, yeah, I'm on board Yeah All right well he has all the opportunity He has all the opportunity He is the world on a fucking platter He could do whatever he wants And he's just wasting it That boy shit

That's shit at basketball I guarantee He's six sick He's 16 and he's six eight right now Yeah I don't know if he's gonna stop growing but I feel like most NBA players by the time they're 16 they need to be built into their body and he just seemed a little more like a new one giraffe

he's got time to fill out like get him on put him on steroids Billy he probably just needs crazy that's what I'm saying thank you I'm very pro PED by the way I love that I myself have not used it because I like I'm an addict and I feel like I would I would go Ninja Turtle mode if I did it I would never stop cycling so I'm like afraid of that

plus I don't want to lose my hair but I I'm you know very much a fan of steroids. I think sports would be more fun to watch if everyone was just like openly doing steroids and doing it more frequently. I think in fight sports that's when it gets weird. Yeah.

Because like if something like if you know, you're way more deadlier, the stronger you are. But pre-USA, you saw the testing in UFC, everyone was juiced. So I mean, I think like compounds that are geared towards recovery like HGH so guys can you know

operate play and a lot of times be out of pain, I think would be a huge. Like, there's a lot of HGH, not ag, peptides that, you know, you can get injected into if you were not a professional athlete, like in an elbow. I think PFT just may have torn his bicep. I'm actually trying to order some to inject into him. He doesn't know about this yet. I've been thinking about it.

Thank you. Yeah, load me up. But, like, I think those should definitely be legal just so athletes can, you know, not have their careers ruined and also be able to play longer. Think about it. Think about what is the greatest sporting spectacle that we've ever put on television here in the United States? American gladiators.

Those guys were fucking juiced out of their minds. I loved American gladiators. And they tried to bring it back with the rock and it didn't work out because they went all handheld cameras. They tried to treat it like it was a cinematic experience as opposed to a real sport where they'd have like stationary cameras and scoreboards. I used to love American gladiators. That was the greatest show of all time.

Bring it back. Yeah, 100%. I think that as far as PDs goes, like, I think they should, well, one, it will open up medical technology into an entirely different, you know, an entirely different generation, which is great, you know, I want, I want there to be, like, easy to cycle steroids, you know what I mean? I have no issue with that. I think it'd be great with, like, less problems and less health complications. Like, it doesn't, like, take a couple of years off your lifespan. But also, I, I treat like I was talking about this on my podcast with Jeff Wittick.

I don't know if you guys know who that is, but like because he brought up the PEDs in fight sports as well. And I said, and maybe I'm wrong about this, but like it's like Formula One, right? Like there are boundaries to what you can put in the engine of a Formula One vehicle. Yes, you can make marginal improvements on it. But like ultimately there's like a standard that you need to abide by. And I think like you could do that for PEDs as well. I envision a future where you can do that

where like there's a baseline of steroids that you are allowed to take and they're constantly doing your blood work and making sure that you're not like going overboard or it's all monitored and it's like you know it's like doctor-administered TRT. Yeah.

Like Flintstone steroids. I like that. Like keep it with, keep it reasonable. Don't do anything that's going to kill you or damage your organs. Well, the thing is the feedback. They don't give a shit about that.

Yeah. Yeah, they bend did they pumped us with a whole bunch of shit to keep us on the field. That's true. I don't care about that. Aaron, how detailed was the list of things that you could not put in your body when you were playing? Did you have like a list that you had to read and check every supplement that you took? Well, I was just never a big supplement guy. So I was like, whatever.

Like, I just fruits, vegetables, food, and work out. That was my thing. I never did something. But I know dudes who did and they would, my. monitor that shit and they had uh they would they would read ingredients i'm like fan why are you a fucking scientist bro what are you doing like it was it was it got weird so i never really did that shit you know what they need to bring back jack 3d yes yes thank you i this is the fucking this is the podium okay if i were to run for office that's what i would run on i would run on bring back jack 3d put it in

the fucking water okay we need we what is what is jack 3d what is it jac it was uh it was a it was a pre-workout that had a low-grade methamphetamine in it unfortunately it was germanium extract billy it was unfortunately some you know grunts in certain army bases

were taking too many scoops and ruined it for everybody by having heart attacks you got to take one to two scoops of it and then you get the best workout that you've ever had they took five burn your face it literally the sensation was like it would tingle my entire well that like that was a

beta aline, which you can still get that rush. You just got to get like, you know, a large dose of beta aline. Not the same. With the meth. Yeah, it was a synergistic force with the meth that was in there. You know what is not a steroid, but you can get that is an amazing compound. And actually one of our sponsors, concrete, concrete is a type of creatine, not your typical creatine monohydrate. It is not a type of steroid. Creatine is a natural molecule that your body produces and it presents in various foods because your body needs more than it takes. Concrete is the number one bioavailable creatine with 70% greater plasma uptake than standard

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I was like, I think he's doing an ad read voice and then he kept going. I was like, oh, this rocks. Yeah. Billy is the embodiment of late stage capitalism. I love you, Billy. No, I mean, I do it too.

I, like, I have a contract where I have to serve ads at the top of the hour. Like, I have an ad density contract where I run 60 seconds. It's the lowest ad density out of anyone on the platform, but I do that as well. I gamify my segways. I mean, it's just good, but honestly, I really love concrete. Yeah. It's so much because I remember in high school, just taking masses amount of creatine monohydrate and big bags. You shit yourself.

Yeah. Yeah, I shit myself the first time I took actual, actual creatine. Monohydrate. Monohydrate, yeah. Creatine HCL, much better. Just poop myself. Just went everywhere. It's a big mess.

As Billy put it, I'm a poop guy, though. He's a poop guy. I don't know what that means. I'm just a poop guy. He's one of those guys where he needs to watch what he eats or he might, you know, be out of commission for like two hours. I don't know where you getting this information from. I work with you. Yeah, okay.

And I eat like shit, usually. Not anymore. Now it's salads. Now I'm doing salads and soups. But, um, great. Yeah. Assault, thank you for joining us.

We'll let you get back to your money-making endeavors and do your Twitch stream. Absolutely. I love watching your streams. The one that you did on where you watched the video for the Bored Ape Yacht Club and you went through that entire like YouTube thing, that was fascinating to me. Philean, he's a good dude. I thought it was a little, I mean, I thought it was a little over the top. I think like, you know, these guys are just nerds for the most part. I'm very anti-crypto.

I just think it's like you know it's just another scam but it's like so obviously a scam it just like it breaks my brain a little bit that other people can't comprehend that it's a scam but you know it is what it is

I think that Putin created it to pay his mercenary groups I think I because the whole crash was right after the invasion I was like it's probably being sold right now to buy arms Billy where can people buy a t-shirt that's has Putin created

barstool store barstoolsports.com great ad read we have a we have a t-shirt also uh billy you would love his conversations that he's had with um with andrew tate oh yeah personal hero no no andry tate's a guy i put like in alex jones territory where it's just the sound bites are hilarious

oh yeah seeing you guys he's very entertaining yeah he's very entertaining i'll give him that for sure because like jordan peterson is a dildo like he's just like on like you have to be like a very specific type of stem lord to look at jordan peterson be like oh that guy's so cool he's like really owning women whereas andrew tate is like actually kind of fun to listen to he is an entertaining guy so i get why he has much broader appealed in jordan peterson who's just a fucking nerd who cries all the time and plus he had like a decent i mean range of you know

comparatively a decent fight career so like that makes people think like oh man this guy's like an action hero like he can do something with his hands yeah The funniest part of that was when you were debating them about women drivers and you were using the statistics of, okay, well, if you look across the board at insurance companies, the premiums are lower for female drivers and they've got all the data that says that they're safer drivers. And then his counter example was, I've been in like a dozen car accidents and every single time it's a woman driver. And it's like, dude, you just said that you've been in like a dozen car accidents yourself. Yeah. It was completely lost on him. yeah yeah he destroyed me when he said he's he's a habitual car accident guy

always that that and that in a nutshell is why i'm a pessimist he has millions of fans and it's like they can vote and they are top gs existing it's like they're not vote they're not voting his fans are like but they can bro they can vote some of his fans can vote and it's like i don't i i sit in my room and i'm just gonna do I think his fans are a lot. I mean, there are a ton of people out there that just look at their phones and get pissed off. And then they close their phones down and go back to whatever their lives were. But they still take the same though.

Until they log back in and they're like, oh, yeah, this is what I'm pissed off about again. And then they just, they get more and more depressed and more, you know, they deal with more and more mental issues. They don't know why they're unhappy. It's because they spend, you know, eight hours a day looking at their phones and figuring out somebody else to get really mad at. Yeah. And then they think about like, I mean, it's just. it's just a way like it's a great vector to like uh you know take out their frustrations on on women instead of like trying to figure out what the fuck's wrong with them maybe it's because

they're constantly they got pussy on the mind constantly and like they're they're routinely thinking like women have wronged them that's that's it that's the main reason why you're not getting laid not because women are bad or anything you know also with that sort of same thinking i've been i've read up a lot about incels because they're scary especially like They're wide reaching and just very scared of the insoles, especially their online communities. There also is a dichotomy that a lot of these people think that, like, there are, I don't know, it's like they think that super attractive women are owed to them. And that's what causes a lot of their frustration where there's tons of women that probably would,

but they, like, think that they deserve, you know, like a supermodel. And then that's what caused a lot of the frustration where it's like, well, you know, they claim that like women always want to level up female hypergamy and and that's why they're untrustworthy across the board and you can never trust a woman and that's like then you're getting into black pill territory which is like red pill is like the introductory phase and then black pill is like where you're you know doom when you're just a doomer about women in general and the dynamic between men and women in general and it's like it's because of like you know qualities that you cannot change by yourself like your fucking skull right like the way your face looks or something like that. But ultimately, yeah, you're, you're right. They believe that women are trying to get the best partner possible. And I'm always like, well, what the fuck aren't you? Like, what do you mean? Like, you don't want someone who you perceive to be schlubby either.

You know what I mean? You want someone that you're attracted to that's normal. Everyone wants that. Yeah, I blame King of Queens and commercials from like the 90s because King of Queens. Jod Apatow. He fucking broke. I agree. Everybody thinks like, well, I look like Seth Rogen. Why can't I have sex with like these beautiful blonde women that Jod Apatow places in front of Seth Rogen in all of the fucking rom-coms that were made specifically for the male audience and mine? And it's like, yeah, that's not going to happen. That's Hollywood, man. You just got to work on yourself. You look at Kevin James. He's a UPS driver in King of Queens, right? His wife is a fucking smoke show. And everyone's like, oh, okay, that's that's realistic for me. Then it goes to commercial break. And it It's like a commercial for a medicine for gout. And that guy's like going to the doctor with his 10 wife. And it's like, what's happening here?

Why is this? But that does get into your mind when you're a kid. Your, your representation of a 10 is Leah Remini? No, I'm saying she's, I'm saying she's very attractive. She's more attractive than Kevin James. Yeah, she's way outside of Kevin James's league for sure.

I like her sass, okay? I'm attracted to witty comebacks. March Simpson. Isn't Leah? Like, what happened to her? Wasn't she like... Oh, Scientology. Yeah, she's like kind of wild, right?

She like... No, she got a bat of it. She started a whistleblower. Yeah, she's been getting chased by Scientology. I remember seeing like a video where she was like... Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's why I was thinking that she went wild

because Scientology probably did like a PR blast after she left. Yeah. Yeah. That makes sense. The motherfuckers are like anonymous. Yeah. Well, we'll get you back on at some point, Hassan. But it was...

We got a lot to talk about still. Yeah. But, you know, this was wonderful. you guys for having me this was a wonderful experience absolutely it's the start of a beautiful friendship um have a good stream today i'm sure you have a lot to talk about you can find assan he's always online in one way or another um his socials are at the bottom of the screen right now if you're watching on youtube but thank you asan and uh we'll see you around buddy nice see you bro all everyone later hasan piker was brought to you by our great friends are at three chee you don't

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texted me afterwards and uh really enjoyed his time i think he likes billy i think you guys really hit it off you probably could talk to him about like pre-civilization for a long time yeah because do you expect that he would know about are we like trying to flex your pre-civilization knowledge no it's something oh shit a worthy opponent there was a point in my life where i wanted to go into finance and i just found it so you know, boring. So I had to make it, like, sound cool for myself. So, like, I started looking into the history of it. And I was like, oh, like, like, financing is the only reason why, like, you know, like Christopher Columbus got his boat. Like, the Vikings used to use finance

to finance their raids. Like, that sounds really cool. You looked at yourself as like a modern day warrior. Yeah. I was like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, part of it was then, it then went back to like early pre-agrarian societies and like debt how debt existed back in those times and it's kind of the explanation of like capitalism is the natural state of humanity

through debt and then there's two competing ideologies about it are where we a you know hunter gathered commune society a socialist society or was that socialism really a system of social debt where everyone who contributed

then everyone else was in debt to them technically. So that was why it all went round. Interesting. Well, let's get into some voicemails. Do we have voicemails? Anything else you guys want to get into? Big T. I don't believe so.

Anything on your mind? Well, that's a different question. What are you thinking about? I don't think so. I just want to tap into your brain real quick. What's going on in there? Just this show right now. Okay.

If anything comes up later, I'll let you know. Okay, what do you think about Tatis? I mean, what an idiot. It seems like the rest of the team kind of hates him. To get into multiple motorcycle accidents that keeps you out the first half, and now you're suspended 80 games for steroids. Also, I mean, that contract could end up being, obviously you hope he learns from his mistakes this year and does not repeat them,

but that contract could end up being terrible for them. Yeah, so what happens? What happens to, so obviously he's not going to get paid, right? Correct. So does that have any ramification whatsoever on their cap? Well, there is no salary cap in baseball. But luxury tax-wise? I don't know. I really don't. But yeah, he just seems kind of stupid. Yeah. Yeah, I agree with that. Although I, so I put a future on the Padres before the Wants Soto trade happened because I was hedging against myself emotionally. I didn't want him to go to the Padres,

but I thought that he would. So I put a future on the Padres to win the World Series. They traded for Soto. It was at plus 2,200, I think, when I got it, and it dipped all the way down to, like, plus 1,000. Yeah, they went down to 1,000. It was looking pretty good. So I could have cashed out, but I didn't because I'm like,

you know what? I'm going to ride this one out. And then the Soto thing happened. Now they're back up to, I think, plus 2,000. They're still going to, like, struggle to make the playoffs, it seems. They're a good team, though. like they're talented i don't know that they're good okay so this just came out about trump some of the data trump had okay talk to me trump's lawyers copied voting machine data from

multiple states after 2020 election a major unauthorized data breach are you not allowed to do that what does that mean copied copied data they copied the data i mean i guess it was government issue like those electoral data that he had access to that he just took i could see that okay so um maybe just go back and take out everything that i said about the entire don't trump data thing thanks okay appreciate that um so before billy so rudely interrupted us We're talking about Fernando Tatis. I think the Padres will be fine. They got this far without them.

They got Juan Soto. The Phillies just keep winning. They look like they could get one of those wild card spots. Whoever finishes second in the Central could challenge them. I personally would love for them to not make the playoffs. I think it would be hysterical. Yeah, it would be. For the second consecutive year.

What do you think about the Mets? The Mets are a good team. We'll see if their success continues all the way through the postseason, but they're good. We'll see what happens this week. We're playing them again. Are you afraid of them? No. I would be.

I would be. I think the Mets are good, good. All right. I'll believe that when I see it. Let's get to these voicemails that are presented by Shady Rays. I've got my Shady Rays right here. Shady Rays has the essentials that you need to make summer complete. I'm going to put them on while I do this ad read.

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Who do you think if they died and you guys looked at their internet search history would have the worst one. And why is it big key? Shout out the area. Okay, for me, this one's a no-brainer. It's Billy. It's Billy. It's a million percent Billy. Now, I don't know why this man picked Big T.

It would be very tough to... Because he's a follower. It would be very tough to parse Billy's search history and figure out exactly why he was using these internet searches. Because I'm sure you've got stuff on there for like these experimental proteins that you put in earlier. You've probably got some really fucked up searches in your past. Now, they might not be for bad purposes. But just fucked up. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, let's just look at my search history. from when we started the show. Okay. Walked me through it. Yeah. Yeah, let's look at this. Okay, so from we started the show,

what time did we start the show? One. Okay. My first search is LaGuardia, LaGuardia Airport. Only impeached in president. Why was Andrew Johnson impeached?

George Washington illegal. Berenheit Trump. Berenheit Trump. Tenea versus color. Berenheit Wait when I say No, Barron Trump Baren Trump height

Okay Tenea versus color That's what you have Yes I diagnosed Billy correctly With a disease You're actually right on that too I have that

You've got the fungus Yeah you guys are both fungi If you are a dermatologist Can you please send those pills That get rid of the fungus I'm just too lazy To go to a dermatologist So Billy I didn't have the hard to tell you

I actually think I have some Billy has monkey pox Yeah That's really what it is Yeah, I'm sorry He's just been rubbing rubbing backs on It's going to be great for the content

On a tree Yeah, I caught it playing basketball Do you actually have it? Yeah, pick up basketball I caught it We were shirts versus skins And then I guess, you know I caught monkeypox

Wait, are you actually serious? Yeah, you want to see the sore? Wait, yeah, wait, are you serious? Yeah, it's been going around Billy doesn't have monkeypox I'm joking That's a lot, but he does have Tinnu versus Cola Uh, hymboes

You search hymboes? Well, someone called called Billy Hymbo and I agreed with them. Okay. I had to look it up. Connor McGregor misses out on sports top 10 social media earnings. Well, this is where it gets good. That's a very specific search.

Mushroom extracts, lion's main mushroom, myco lovefarm.com, accidental racist. Yep. Walrus skull. Walrus body under fat. Waller's body under fat. Waller's body under fat. Waler's body under fat. Waler's skull.

Whale breaching on boat. Ellen DeGeneres girlfriend Double Windsorne Where'd that come from? Anne Hatch Why do we wear ties necktie Uh

Anne Hetchin Yep Are you dead before you're born Jerking up when sleeping in trees That sounds sexual Yep It does How long has humans existed

Kirk Olavaddy When do you start dying Ayahuasca Yeah. BPC 157. Hitler paintings. Hitler paintings good. That's a bad one. Texas man who had sex with horse. Okay.

I don't know where that one came back. Texas man gets 10 years in prison for having sex with horse. I want to turn all of Billy's search histories into a verse from we didn't start the fire. Can you get a DUI on a horse? Can you get a DUI on a jet ski? Can the Amish drink? Is adultery a crime? Anna da Armagh Is adulteria crime Can you get a DUI

Watergate skiing Riding on a horse riding on a What was the other one? Jet ski Yeah Can you get a DUI riding on a horse

riding on a jet ski I can turn that into a song for sure Yeah no I have a bunch of Like when I get When I'm like researching like very Incells and 4chan and stuff That's when it gets weird. You have to think like them to catch them.

Yeah. That's where it gets dangerous. Like, I'm a journalist. That's why I watch fake news. You have to know what they're saying. Yeah. Like, I do research a lot of different extremist groups, like, just to figure out what's going on. Yeah.

Okay. I think, I think it's definitely Billy's search history is the worst. We can agree on that, right? 100,000%. But it's not like, it's not like weird porn stuff. No, I don't think any of you guys are searching. That makes me think there's some weird porn stuff. Yeah, who said that?

But that's when people... Who mentioned that? When people talk about the worst search history, they're like thinking about like, oh, we're going to find porn. Or like bombs. It's like more Wikipedia pages. Let's play a game. Let's play a game.

Sunday searches. Mad Dog. Go back to your search history. I want to see what you searched on Sunday. Big T. You as well? Okay. I only searched five things yesterday.

This isn't fair. How do you do this on a phone? You can go. It's like the little book. on the bottom of your safari. Got it. Okay, so I searched New York Giants schedule, New York Jets schedule, over-the-counter laxative pill.

Okay. And McDonald's Breakfast Hours 2020. That's not bad. That's it. Wait, over-the-counter laxative was before or after McDonald's breakfast hours. Okay. And then just the New York football team schedules. that's solid so wait how do I search my

okay so go to history open your browser and then there's the little book at the bottom mine was uh Hank Aaron autograph Ricky Gibson 24 7 good kid that just committed to UT is going to be a good ball player Scott's Tots episode Matt Olson stats and then Hassan Piker

okay because I was looking up stuff about him all right so where do I so I went to my history so go to history and then if you scroll down it should say like Sunday August 14th yeah I'm on that and then it'll pop up to the side of what you were searching okay so I can okay I've got do you see it yeah got it wait yeah I got it now Packers uniforms Packers quarterback scrolling down scrolling down Carson went 73 degrees and that's it that's all I did did I had a pretty clean day I didn't really search for anything yesterday no that's a

Impressive. Avery? Mine was only Ford vehicle order tracking because I'm just watching the progress of my Bronco. Yeah, wasn't that supposed to get here like a long time ago? I know, so it just got shipped. It's on its way. How long does that take? I don't know.

I don't know how long it takes. But I'm assuming I think there are motor vehicle factories in Detroit. Yep. So I'm assuming it'll probably take a couple weeks. That's so exciting. I know. I'm really excited. what else is oh and my human interest seeing how much money my 401k is lost mine lost so much i can't go

on that website yeah it's bad well what do you guys put it in stocks and uh are like what's my split okay you you put money in each paycheck yeah do you do that do that human interests okay let's go see what we're at oh we're up to only uh negative 1% that's a that's a very big yes that's where i was at yeah i've been at like 11 It's been bad. Barstle matches, right? Yep. Gas prices are down.

All right. New voicemail? Yeah. Rock it. Hey, everyone. Pat from Baltimore. I love the show. Aaron mentioned

Baphore Medicaid being a reason he has a negative outlook on humanity and kind of got me thinking, where are some easy ways to determine someone as a scumbag? Kind of reminded me of the shopping card test. which basically is if you're not a dire emergency, it doesn't really take a lot of effort to return a cart to the area it should be, but you gain nothing to do so.

It's a scumbag move not to return it, right? Just wondering, you know, outside of the bathroom, etiquette, some other good ones to determine if someone's a scumbag or not. Also, side note, Baltimore banned, single-used plastic bags from the stores, hand carts were gone within two days of the implementation. Got all of those unintended consequences, right, Big T? All right, thanks, everyone.

Wait, what did he say? Hand cards? They banned single-use plastic bags in what? In Baltimore, and then hand carts were out of the stores shortly there off. Oh, they just got stolen? I guess so. Oh, I think that's what that means, yeah. I've been dealing with no plastic bags for like 10 years now

because Austin was one of the first cities that did that. I thought the world was going to end when they banned the plastic bags that life finds away. Well, here they've not only banned them, they now charge you for paper bags. Yeah, I'm the goat. If you want a bag at all, you are getting charged.

It's what, five cents? Yeah. At bodegas, they'll charge you a quarter. Wow. What? Yeah, I'm the goat at forgetting my reusable bag at home. I don't think I've ever taken a reusable bag. I've got like 50 of them at home.

Always forget them. I really want to get my dog, a cart I can hook them up to. so that I can just fill up with groceries and, like, beer. And he's like a packed meal? Yeah. I like that. Aaron, the question that we just had was,

what is another test that you can give somebody or observe somebody doing that can tell you whether or not they're a scumbag? I would say how they treat waiters and waitresses is a pretty good one. Or a cashier or anybody in, how they treat people that are in retail or working in a restaurant, I think would be. two big ones for me i think um i don't think there's a single one because i seen people pretend for years dog you know what i mean and so if the if the reward is big enough they'll pretend for long enough and so i think the the best way i do it is i just give them all the rope they need

you just you you you let people be who they are and believe them when they show you and they'll tell them themselves sooner later mm-hmm how they treat kids is a good one how they talk to their mom yeah oh that's a good one too yeah that's how like i very very much pay attention to how someone talks to their mom especially on the phone because it's hard to be a dick in person it is big tea what do you got i like yours a lot how you treat like retail people i was also going to say uh this is a very specific example but if you leave shit in a movie theater like if you leave a popcorn and drink like sitting there like it's or just like throwing things away in general. It's not very hard to just

like take shit and throw it away. Yeah. I think that's similar to the cart thing that he was talking about too. It's not hard to do that. Yeah. Billy, you'll like this one. What about at the gym, rewracking your weights? Yeah. I think that's it in general. If people are

if they have expectations of like other people doing shit for them without any kind of gratitude, entitlement. It's just all, it's an entitlement. like people feeling tired of shit that's usually a telltale sign if they'll help you move no i think you can be a good person and still not want to now you're in i'm not helping you move

you're a really good person if you do agree to do that i've helped move nine people in the past two months jesus see they're taking advantage of you now let me tell you about the people who are asking you you're just you're just being a pack meal you know what a great thing to do for somebody is i'll always appreciate this offer if i'm flying into a city and somebody offers to pick me up from the airport even though you don't like I don't remember the last time I got picked up from the airport by somebody because I usually get a cab

but not to brag but if you fly in or a cabs or an Uber or left or whatever but if you fly in and somebody's like I'll come pick you up from the airport that's always nice to hear just making the offer I never accept it but it's always like okay they're a good person in my book now I know about a guy on this podcast who did it for someone else on this podcast

that's true who was that who was that I don't know Avery came and swooped. Avery came and swooped. Good person. And it was late. It was like 11.30 at night. Wow.

That's a good guy move. It's a guy's guy. What are some other good guy moves? I'm trying to think. Oh, just tapping in. You don't want nothing. Like when you tap it on with somebody and be like, hey, man, just seeing how you is. I don't want nothing.

Just checking in and see if you're right. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. That's not normal. That's rare. Everybody tap in on somebody today. Tap in on somebody today. Yeah.

I like that. you're listening, it's tap in Tuesday. Just tap in and just say, hey, what's up? Just seeing how you are, we're always thinking about you. Hope all is well. I did that this morning with my Rachel Maddall Nugget. I talked to some people I hadn't talked to in a while. I just thought I'd let you, you would like to know that I actually did that today. That was the best thing that Big T's acting like, like it was the worst way to start his day. Big T secretly loved that shit because he's like, I get to tell everybody how mad I am that I saw this woman that I secretly have a giant crush on. Stop. That led to, uh, but that led to some good conversations with some

friends I hadn't talked to in a while. Would you go on a date with Rachel Maddow? No. Also, I believe she's, uh, homosexual. Well, I'm, okay, just throw that. What if she has a thing for big tea? That I'm, a lot of people do. Yeah. What if every person that calls into this show is obsessed with me? What if you go on misconnections on Craigslist? Is that still a thing? And it's like me. I was eating my, I was eating my, I was eating my delicious flowery friends. toast, you, giant orange man walked by me on the street. I gave you a look. We exchanged glances. It looked like you tried to take a picture of me. Stop. Did you try to take a picture of her? No. I actually touched me. It happened too quickly. Yeah. Yeah, you got caught up in the moment.

I'm sure you're emotionally. I do. So it's on. I'm not going to say the street it's on, but it's a very narrow street. And I always just kind of glance over, just see the people that are having breakfast in the morning just it's i find people watching interesting i looked over and i was like that's fucking rachel maddow what if she offered to pay stop if she's like big she makes like 60 million dollars a year she was like let's go to it's not that much let's go to this brunch place lots of millions sit down imagine big tea is uh you imagine you're you're ready willing and able and rachel maddow wants to take you on a date no thank you big tea would you i think that's cat Would you conform to the libs if they paid you like $6 million a year?

Yep. What's your price? Less than that. Democratic operative, big tea. Like if you had to like be like, like, you know, be part of the woke mob, like, you're, cancel other people. You won't find a more woke mob member than me for $6 million. You're Mayor Pete's bag man.

So have you seen Veep? Many times. You're like Gary for, for Mayor Pete. Six million dollars a year. And you're also. pre your post tax you're a spokesperson so you have to go on like cable news and talk about how all the stuff that biden mary peter doing is great and i actually think that would be a very uh intellectually stimulating job because you'd have to think of such creative lies that it'd be pretty fun all right so

one million a year yeah i mean come on okay 500 000 well you now that's you now understand how these pre-tax yes yeah no we got to be getting up to seven figs. You now understand how these CEOs, media members, celebrities all conform because it's just they get paid to just shut the fuck up. Aaron, do you think that Big T. secretly has a crush on Rachel

Maddow? Nah. I think he's pretty there are people I secretly have crushes on. I can assure you Rachel Maddow ain't one of them. Tommy Larry one. Tommy Larry. Tommy Ladd, that ain't a secret. Secret? I don't know. You said you have many

I guess none of them are secrets They're just like celebrities So name one Anne Hathaway When I was a kid Yeah her and Hillary Duff Hillary Duff I've had Oh Hillary Duff since like 2003

Hillary Duff is Hillary Duff is Also very slept on Christmas album Hillary Duff she has a couple original Christmas songs that are bangers Yeah That's what Christmas should be I haven't heard it

You should I love that's what Hillary Clinton walks around I mean Hillary Hillary Duff walks around with the Glock She does She stays strapped I've got a I've got a confession

This isn't a secret crush But it's more like a guilty pleasure That I'm going through right now Yo Harry Styles is fucking awesome That album That's ass He's like a really good songwriter I'm not gonna scream

Oh Oh my God I'm so happy right now Yeah it's really good You just made my whole day by saying that. Well, everybody, everybody always hates on, on kids, like teen stars. And, and when you're like a kid in a band that's put together by an agency or some sort of talent group and you're doing like bubblegum stuff, songs that are written by somebody else, people always like laugh at you when you try to go out on your own. But the truth is, you've been a touring musician for a while.

You've probably experienced a lot of music. You've listened to a lot of music. You've figured out how to write songs. you've been in the studio a lot. Chances are, you're going to become a pretty decent musician. Like, that's what happened to the Beatles. Now, granted, the Beatles wrote all their songs from the get-go, but they were looked at as teeny boppers.

And then you grow as an artist and you get really good. Harry Stiles is fucking awesome. Aaron, have you listened to any Harry-style stuff? I haven't, man. I think you'd like it. I think you'd like, guys, this is so awesome. I'm, I mean, Matt, are you really happy? I'm going to two of his concerts next month.

That's a lot of Harry-style's concerts. two in one week I'm very excited about it yeah that's a lot I'm not I'm not that level yet no that's okay can I ask one question real quick yeah like was it the most recent album you listen to I think so yeah so Harry's house uh yeah I'll tell you can you tell me what songs you like I'll tell you the two songs that I've been listening to on repeat while you while you look that up I have another question for Madeline uh this guy has a concert in New York every six weeks well he's doing he's doing a stint he's doing a residence or not residency I guess he's doing a month stint in at MSG from next week or the 20th to

September 21st. I just feel like this guy he's in New York all the time. He was so he He's getting that back. He won is getting that back. He's but so he hasn't been back in New York actually I take that back so he had a one night only in May and then he had a one night only till June well that's just a tour date well no no it was a one night only it was a one night only because he it's like it was the day his album

released and it was the only time he's going to play his album fully through. So that was the one I'll be part of it. And then he has a stint coming up this week for the next month. And then he had a couple shows. Yeah, he does a lot in New York. He really likes New York. I'm really excited to live here now. So I've been listened to

as it was. Great. On repeat. And then I dip back into his older catalog. Watermelon sugar is a banger. It's a good song. I don't think he's singing about watermelon. I think that song might be about something else. That's so interesting. Target. I heard that in Target. Those are like the radio hits. You've got to do a

deep dive. Okay, I will. I'll listen to more of Harry's House. Harry's House is a, I think you would like Harry's house based on what I know about your music taste. I also think you would like his first album a lot, just his self-titled album. Okay. Like ever since New York, um, from the dining table, I think you would like those songs. But his first and his third album, I can see you really driving with. Oh, this is the best. Yeah. No YouTube. Okay. Yeah, I'm not trying to get us demonetized. Yeah. That, his first album has a, like, a lot of lot of like fleetwood mac vibes to it okay uh yeah i think i think i like harry styles pft good singer good songwriter you just made complicated music but interesting music it's he's good i'll put my hand

up yeah i don't have a tattoo but if i were to get one one of his lyrics i have like in my mind what is that um it's hash brown's egg yokes i will always love you and i want to get little hashbrown and a little egg yolk that's cute yeah yeah that's fun but i have yeah that's my one thing oh i'm so happy but yeah Billy's pissed off I can tell Billy hates Harry Styles do you think he's gay no I just

there is something about like if you guys were around back in the 90s you'd know that like when backstreet boys came out everyone was like oh they're gay but it was mostly it was mostly dudes being like I'm pissed off that all the girls wants them that's what everyone thought about one direction they're like oh they're gay no they're not they just know how to

freaking get bitches and you don't I'm I'm allowed to check out from conversations time to time. What do you think about Harry Stiles? One word. She's got some good music. Yeah. Okay.

And he's hot. I actually don't know what he looks like. What? But I'm sure he's handsome. I'm actually pro or dresses and like, and like conservatives. Candice Owens got really mad about it. Bring back manly men. Yeah.

Yeah. Lennity is gone. Yeah, Candice Owens hates him. Musicians have never been like in draw. What's the word I'm looking for? Androgynous. Indrogenous. Yeah, that's never been a thing.

David Bowie, Prince. Yeah. Yeah. I actually think that with Mick Jagger. So Mick Jagger and Dave Bowie had like a thing, romantic thing. Yeah. I think Mick Jagger just like fucked every chick. And he was like, I got to try something new.

I'm bored. I'm bored with that hole. I've seen them all. Yeah. Seen them all. All right. We have another voicemail. Yeah.

God, PFT, you just made my day. That's awesome. Dude, Harry Styles got some bangers. I'm like now thinking I know Like he I mean

If the music gets the ladies going Who am I to judge There's another song That I was I gotta figure out Which one it was All right While you find that song

I'll do the next voice now What's up Macrodosing This is DC from Boston Quick question for you If you were a ghost Who would you haunt Feel free to add some fun wrinkles Prebong on PFT

They beautifully handsome I like that As it was Did I say as it was? Yeah, as it was the jam Okay, who would you haunt? What did you say? I couldn't hear it.

If you became a ghost, actually kind of goes back to a death conversation. If you died and became a ghost, who would you haunt? Perian. That's my only option to haunt people. Yeah, if you had to. If that was like your job.

I wouldn't. I would just, I would just help random people Yeah, I don't think haunt has to be necessarily a bad thing I'd be robin hood ghost I would just rob a whole bunch of rich people and just help poor people I don't think you can touch things

Oh, you're a ghost Oh, all of a sudden you know the rules of being a ghost? Ectoplasma There are no ghosts bro That's what you think I'd haunt Billy to get good content for the podcast Thanks man, that would be huge There's a goddamn ghost

Yeah, then we all think you're crazy Yeah I don't know whoever What if I actually I have some I have some enemies in my life that I would haunt I play your number one enemy Not to be named on this podcast What did the person do to become your number one enemy

Not to be talked about on this podcast Why can't you say what happened? Because They don't know they're my enemy Yeah She can't agree with her hand They listen Because that person will know

They might not But they might be like Someone who does I don't want to give them back I would play funny pranks on my friends I'd do funny stuff like I'd ice them if I can move stuff I think icing is out I think I'm

Oh all of a sudden you can move shit now Yeah I know it's crazy Wait so Madeline this person that your number one enemy Doesn't know you're their enemy So are you like still pretending to be friends with them? No I'm not friends with this person anymore But I don't know if they know they're my number one public enemy I'm fascinated by this dynamic

Well it's not a public enemy because you're not mentioning her in public or him I think it's a I saw her hmm I have one each

it sounds like some woman daydreaming and late night talking two other good songs you are literally the best that's those are the greatest songs they're so good

they're fantastic songs daydreaming is really good uh highly recommend area check it out uh who would I haunt who would I haunt there's so many people I would like just to like fuck around with

yeah what type of pranks you'd play pranks you weren't you'd be a haunter I'd like to drive somebody crazy yeah I would like to make someone's days just like a little bit worse I would like you know inconvenient I would like to haunt Frank the tank and just make

would you make the Mets really bad I would just make stuff fall over in his apartment whenever the Mets like when they gave up a run yeah or when something bad was happening to the Mets I would just knock a glass off the table when one specific reliever fucks up like Juelli Rodriguez like every time he gives up a run you do something yeah it would be like

just a moderately good player who fucked up enough where or when somebody struck out every time Francisco Lindor strikes out yeah when Lindor strikes out but it's got to be a guy he hates because like then he's going to come to the roster right that's true but like somebody like Lindor's playing like well but like he'd come in here like Joellea Rodriguez I know is a reliever that he hates so like if you do that every time he gave up a run he'd come here and every time Joey Rodriguez gives up a run a cup falls out of my cabinet jelly jelly leg Jelly leg, ruddery guess.

Yeah, I would, I would spill, I would knock over like a jar of jelly from his kitchen counter. And he would just, he would get driven insane by it, but it would be fantastic content.

I love that. Yeah. I would also like to haunt Hank. I think that would make for good content too. What would you do to haunt him then? That's a good question. Every time he tries to light up a joint, just blow it out.

Yeah. Yeah, that would haunt him. That would haunt him good. Yeah. He would go insane. Can't light anything. Hank gets,

Driven to using harder drugs because he can't smoke weed anymore. So they're going to haunt Hank and Frank. Yeah. Hank and Frank. That's right. Have you met? Have you met Hank? Yeah.

Hank the hater. Well, he was on the show. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if they've ever. Yeah. No, yeah.

No, I met him in real life. Everybody tell Hank, thanks for listening to to macrodosing. We appreciate him. He's no longer a hater. Hank is a true believer in this podcast. He is. I had a heart to heart with Hank a couple weeks ago, where he updated me on the progress of the show

had nothing but great things to say about it Hank is officially a macrodosian so any any Hank slander will not be tolerated because he likes us and if Hank is really nice coolest cool as I don't know there's a term for it but like the name of a group of something like a fans of stuff

a macrodosian that's the coldest shit like yep love that it is cool do we have any more voicemail We have one more if you want to do one more. Okay, let's do one more. Hey, this is Alex from Michigan. My question is, let's say you in a friend or a loved one, one other person, find yourself in a government room with government officials.

They say we have almost basically a play-by-play of every event in American history that you have complete access to, unlimited amount of time. to read it, go through it. You have every piece of knowledge. Every conspiracy, what happened to any conspiracy, any murder, Tupac Biggie, M.L.K. Somebody talking or I can't hear nothing? But they have to kill you after.

You have unlimited time to process the amount with your buddy or your girlfriend or whatever. But they kill you after. Would you do it? I'm for it. Let me hear what you guys say. Okay, so the question was, if you if there was an ability that you had to go to any moment in united states history and see everything that happened behind the scenes whether it's a conspiracy or an event

you had unlimited time to watch it unfold to process it from multiple angles that sort of thing it could be an assassination could be anything but they were to kill you right after you were done processing it would you take that bet would you would you take that that agreement i don't think i would because i kind of like not knowing stuff. Well, and it's like, what's the point of knowing if you just die after? Yeah. I mean, I don't think there's anything out there that I'm that concerned about. Because like, what if it was like, I want to see any proof of aliens that we have? And the only thing the government actually has is like some blurry pictures that I've already seen anyways. Like, we really don't know

anything. And then boom, I'm dead. I like the idea of not knowing things sometimes better than I like the idea of knowing everything. Yeah, what if you pick something that's just totally like not nefarious at all and the real story just sucks? JFK assassination. Ted Cruz's dad did it. Thanks. We already know. And then boom, you're dead. To be fucked up.

I would not be happy with that. Aaron, you're muted again. I was laughing at the Ted Cruz day. Yeah, I don't think that there's anything out there that I want to know that badly. That I would die for it. There isn't a thing, you know? Unless, he's just talking about U.S. history. But if you're talking about, like, history and origins of the universe, shit like that,

I would die for that one. Yeah, you would die for like understanding what set the Big Bang into motion, that sort of thing. Yeah, like if there was an event that caused the Big Bang that was exterior, if there was a, like if I could know that there was a creator, that would be lit too. I would die for that one. And then see him right after. It was like I saw what you did, though. Nice word.

Big fan of the word. Nice word. Well, the good news is you were dead at one point when the Big Bang happened. And then you're back, you're about to be dead again. So in the cosmic sense of timing, you will be killed right after you find out what the Big Bang could be. Backs. Think about that. Yeah, I don't think there's anything for me.

What about you, Billy? Yeah, I know nothing. I mean, what if you got to play fetch with a dinosaur? That would be so cool. But you couldn't really do that because it's not like you're not knowing anything. Yeah. I would like to do some non-consequential time travel. I'd be willing to die for that.

Where would you want to go? If you just let me do, if you said I could time travel to different times and places across history, but never be able to return to my current place, I'd do that. I'd do that a thousand percent. Yeah. Yeah, I think I would do. But like you would have to abandon your whole life, everyone you knew. You couldn't travel back to when you'd. you were alive yeah but like you just like bro oh that's the that's the plot um oh yeah that'll

spoil it's it's it's a it's a star track uh is stark yeah i think it's a star trek movie but i'll do that thousand percent even like the people that you love and shit you just create a video of shit and it's like this is why i did it and like you can give it to them when they old or when they're young I like that yeah that's crazy okay well thank you guys for listening to macro dosing that does it for us this week

my bronco arrived by the way let's go all we were just sitting here where is it it's in Paramus New Jersey what color is it black nice

can you send us a picture I will when I go see it what do the wheels look like they're big they're like I think they're like 35 inch tires damn they're big dude I'm like Let's go.

I've been in discussions to get a track hawk. That thing's insane. I'm probably not going to do it because it's a stupid car to have, but the ball has been rolled a little bit on that. We'll see. Because I got to get a car. I like that car. Yeah, I'll send you guys a picture.

All right. Love you guys. We'll see you on Thursday for Carstool karaoke, and Big T will be singing a Garth Brooks song. That's all alleged. As is everything on the spot. Can you make Big Tea perform at a concert? Yeah, sure, absolutely.

No. Yeah. All right, Big T's going to be performing at a concert. One night only, Big T. We'll do it in Tennessee. There you go. We'll do Rocky Tap. We'll do a carousel karaoke.

Sounds good. So we will see you guys on Thursday. Love you guys. I'm going to be a lot of