Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Prostitution

Episode Date: September 21, 2021

On today's episode of Macrodosing, we're talking 'tutes. Legal or Illegal? You'll hear everything from the history of prostitution to a SPECIAL drop in from an OnlyFans expert. As always you'll get pl...enty of pre-show banter that includes the love-hate relationship with zoos and aquariums. Also, this weeks Rocky Top minute is a MUST listen so make sure to stick around for that. All of this and SO MUCH more on this edition of Macrodosing.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Let's get Arian and Avatar. All right, that's starting macrodosing with no context around it, but you could probably guess what we're talking about. We're getting Arian into Avatar. He watches the movie every night, and people are taking bets on whether or not he was going to say Avatar. Guess what? I think that was the first word of today's podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:26 But welcome back to macro-dosing. You really have no choice but to listen So I would say thank you But I don't need to thank you guys for doing your job It's kind of mandatory at this point But we're back in the studio We've got the whole squad here We've got Coley back and the Arian back
Starting point is 00:00:41 remotely So big show today Big show today Something we've been talking about for a while But before we get into everything Anything you guys want to get off your chest Anything going on Any infighting
Starting point is 00:00:55 Billy has a chick-fil-a diet going I was on TikTok this weekend and I went down a rabbit hole about like five hours of people who think that they solved the missing girl case out West and there's all these people on TikTok claiming that they've figured it out. That's all my TikTok. That's all I did this weekend was watch it. Well, it turned out they found her. There was a YouTuber that actually looked through some of his footage. That shit is so mind-blowing that that happened. So he just, if you don't know the story behind it, there was a guy and his girlfriend, and they went traveling across the country. They outfitted a van together and kind of just made a long excursion out of it.
Starting point is 00:01:42 They were living on the road for a while traveling to national parks. And they were like YouTubers. Yeah, they were YouTubers chronicling their adventures and everything. And then the guy came home one day and the girl wasn't there. and so people have been trying to figure out what happened to the girl obviously everyone's pointing fingers at the sky and he has refused to talk to the police which as big t will tell you is the correct thing to do right big t well it's generally not smart to talk unless you have a lawyer so yeah that that's what i've been wondering actually because as we've said on the show i've been watching
Starting point is 00:02:14 a lot of police interrogation videos because it sunk its algorithm claws into me somehow and i'm fascinated by watching the criminal psychology and how the police are able to manipulate people into confessing but um in a situation like that let's just say that you're totally innocent absolutely 100% innocent and you come back and your girlfriend or your wife has gone missing you would want to get her back right you would try to do everything that you could to find her but if you know that the police have already zeroed in on you as a person of interest or a suspect you still shouldn't talk to no the first thing you do with the missing person is you call the police piece the first 24 hours the most important yeah like that's everyone knows that
Starting point is 00:02:54 shit like yeah for especially with missing children so if you're not reporting your significant other missing like what like yeah he drove from Wyoming the florida before before anyone knew that she was gone it's one of those weird kind of in-between situations because i understand that you should not speak to the police because they will try to put something on you they're they're just going to use your words even if you're totally innocent they will likely use your words because they do view you as a suspect. They'll try to like trap you into a timeline that you give them. And a lot of times if you're just speaking off the top of your head, you're not going to remember things 100% correctly. And then they'll be like, well, you're lying about this
Starting point is 00:03:36 detail if you forget something. And then you end up in a whole world of shit. I do agree that that can happen. But speaking logically, if you're on the road with your girlfriend or your wife and she just doesn't come back to the car, the first thing I'm doing is I'm finding somebody to report that to and then helping that person find the girl uh by the way he's also gone missing in florida he ran off into the wilderness people think that he he's not trying to escape because it's he's kind of they've already surrounded that wilderness and they're looking for him what's he doing they think he might have you know like made it easier on everybody unalived himself yeah unalive de lived himself yeah which makes sense like honestly gator food yeah i actually was just on twitter looking at it right before we
Starting point is 00:04:20 get in here and he was supposedly in a certain like wildlife reserve is what they narrowed it down to they searched that whole reserve didn't come up with him so they kind of scratched that and they're like okay we're moving on from this reserve and moving on to something else breaking news as of 239 Monday they think that they've spotted him in mobile Alabama so he's on the run on the run if we're looking at it on a map towards Mexico God damn it. So, again, it's not like confirmed. Nothing's confirmed, but someone said that they saw him getting, like,
Starting point is 00:04:59 or catching a hitchhike to a nearby Walmart in Mobile, Alabama. So if you happen to be listening to this in Mobile, Alabama. Keep your eyes out. Well, did you all see this? There was a dead body founded near a Walmart dumpster in Mobile, Alabama last night also? I did not know that. I just found, I searched Mobile on Twitter, and that came up, too. He also runs around barefooted.
Starting point is 00:05:20 He's a big barefoot guy and that's his like M.O. That's a red flag. I'm totally out of loop. Who is this dude? It's a missing person's case that he's got TikTok up and arms. It's a guy and a girl who, they're YouTubers and they went on the road and they were chronicling their adventures in national parks and shit. And then one day the girl went missing and the guy just went off the grid and he won't talk to the police or anything and they're trying to find this girl. It looked like they found her body the other day because people were looking on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:05:48 at different footage that people had recorded inside these national parks and thought they spotted their van at the time of day that this girl went missing. So they searched that area. They found a body up there. It's like, it's like, you remember the Malaysian plane when everybody was like looking at their computers trying to find out where that thing went? That's kind of what a lot of people were doing here in the United States trying to find where this girl was. And maybe if she was still alive like where she where would be likely to find her and they found her they found her dead they found her dead yeah but they also go ahead go ahead manick no no no you're fine i there was body cam footage um they got pulled over uh about a week and a half before she initially went missing
Starting point is 00:06:32 because someone called the police on a domestic um dispute incident because they were fighting outside of their van and so then there's like an hour and a half of body cam footage of her and him, like, crying to the cops because they were, like, getting in fights and she was, like, talking about how she slapped him, missed and, like, scratched his face. And so there was, some could say buildup about it. And so some are saying that's, that's also a big reason why the person of interest is pointed at him. One, because he drove home 2,000 miles without saying anything. too because there's all this body cam footage of a domestic dispute right before she went missing
Starting point is 00:07:16 so some are saying like he kind of snapped and all right well I'm putting out an APB for all the was macrodosians yeah all the macrodosians out there APB be on the lookout for a barefoot white guy shoeless shoeless and barefoot with bald I mean bald he's bald he's hairless shoeless he's got a shark tooth necklace or something weird like that right yeah but the shark tooth necklace went missing it went missing okay the plot thickens suspicious so just be on the lookout for a white guy
Starting point is 00:07:51 in Alabama is what I'm saying and so if you see white guy in Alabama call the police immediately don't try to talk to them yourself maybe maybe we should let him get to Mexico I feel like he'll be easier to spot yeah that's a good point it's in Monterey for a while yeah there was I a part of this because I get nervous talking about like an ongoing case just because we don't know all the details and a lot of it's speculative, but there's a part of it that I feel like works well with our show. I don't know how we haven't talked about it before. Maybe we did on episode I wasn't here for, but the zone of death out in Yellowstone. Do you know about this PFT or Aaron? I've heard of it. I think I've just heard Billy talk about how crazy it is.
Starting point is 00:08:37 This feels like a pretty big loophole we need to close sooner than later because there is a 50 square mile part of Yellowstone National Park. I guess it's technically in Idaho, but it's under like zero, it's basically under international law in the sense that there's no law here because no one technically lives there or claims it. And someone, Brian Kaltz, was a law professor at Michigan State. He published an essay in 2005 in the Georgetown Law Journal titled The Perfect Crime, which basically pointed out that there was a place where there aren't enough eligible citizens to form a jury, thus there could not technically be a trial against some, like theoretically. And that, the only area he found in the United States was the so-called zone of death inside Yellowstone National Park. He brought it all the way to Congress in 2007, and Congress just outright ignored it, being like, well, now that this is public, surely no one will try and take advantage of this giant loophole.
Starting point is 00:09:58 And it goes all the way back to the Constitution. Like he pointed out, yeah, the Constitution is what dictates the jury aspect I just talked about. Yeah, it's troublesome. So from what I gather, it's basically because you have the right to a fair trial tried by your peers, the fact that they can't source any residents who are your peers technically in that area, they can't give you a fair trial because no one would be on the jury because technically there's no one. living that area right but i think the because i was thinking about this last night you could technically do that with like any large enough lake like if you were just in the middle of it but i think why this falls into it is because that section of yellowstone again is technically in i know but all of the rest of the uh anything else that were to happen within yellowstone would
Starting point is 00:10:52 fall under wyoming uh district courts so because it's in this like no man's land on the border they wouldn't know how I guess I figure they could just like force a jury I don't know if we would really hold up to the jury of your peers argument here I think with a lake the lake is part of the territory of a surrounding district so anyone that lived in that district even if it was a giant lake that would count as being a jury of your peers in this case they really jumped pretty quickly to death to zone of death they could have just started with like hey it's the zone of jaywalking or it's well you can get away with smoking weed here you know instead of like hey murder this if you want to murder a guy i know a spot before we get any further through this episode of macrodosing we want to remind you guys about our great great friends over at three chi we love three chi three chee is the world leader in delta eight THC t hc all their products made by a biochemist made in the USA with USA grown hemp their delta eight is a federally legal version of THC it's a functional alternative to marijuana you get a great amazing buzz, awesome body feel, get a clear head, less anxiety, less paranoia.
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Starting point is 00:13:17 problem a federal judge ruled that he would be tried in the u.s district for the district of Wyoming so like on like they sorted it out plan really blew up in his face yeah but honestly he did a service now there's precedent that sounds like one of the sovereign citizens guys who should that should be an episode actually of macrodosing is a sovereign citizen movement where they're just like there's no fringe there's no yellow fringe on that american flag in the courtroom and I'm entitled to a maritime trial based on the articles of confederation they take it way back and they try to get out of speeding tickets and basically their whole premises if I'm a big enough pain in the ass judges won't want to give me speeding tickets or they'll just give up and so I can I can get away with a little bit
Starting point is 00:13:57 more money so maybe that's something we'll look into in the future but you know these national parks and these campgrounds and these places on you know these walking trails be at the appellation trail the continental divide or the Pacific Northwest Trail there it's really like the wild west out there I mean I've sort of I at one point was near the continental divide trail and meeting some of the guys who walk the trail. I actually had a relative who walked the Appalachian Trail after you retired. And the lean-toes and, like, campsites kind of get wild because you have a lot of people who've been alone and they've been walking for days and days.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Like, you know, people are crazy enough to just, you know, walk 25 miles a day and, like, walk across the U.S. Forrest Gump style alone and just with a backpack and living off the land and food they buy every town. And, you know, these people aren't like, you know, they don't fit into society. because as they're choosing to like walk for months and months on these trails and to be honest they like end up there's a lot of scenarios with like basically feral humans who don't want to be in society maybe they're you know running from something and these like campsites are
Starting point is 00:15:10 pretty dangerous there's a lot more murders in these places and people think there was a couple who died uh around moab uh recently too who they thought was connected to that case for a minute. That was a TikTok theory. I didn't exactly. You got to stay off TikTok when it comes to like murder mysteries and true crime shit. Billy, yesterday we were watching football and Billy just pulled up a picture and was like, holy shit, look at this picture of heroin, fentanyl and another drug.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Car fentanyl. Car fentanyl. And what the difference is between like a deadly dose of each? And we're like, Billy, what's the source on that? He was like, it's on Reddit. And we're like, okay. So what's the source? He's like, it's a picture.
Starting point is 00:15:49 they printed out like labels. I don't think anyone would just like fake a label and then put it on a bottle and then put powder in it. And there's probably some truth behind what you were looking at. It was probably true. All you have to. I mean, I could probably, if I wanted to, I could look it up and finally confirm it.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Okay. But it's just very easy to trick you. That's all I'm saying. It is. If it's on Reddit or TikTok, you're... Fact. Fentanol is very, in small doses is very easy to overdose on. Fact.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Correct. So if I see a picture of a little. little bit of fentanyl and they say that's a lethal dose i'm gonna believe that okay uh because it's true because it's confirmation bias that's that's the real answer i didn't know about car fentanyl which is like supposed to sedate elephants really yeah so that little bit that can kill a human like a little grain of rice how frequently do we need to like sedate an elephant that we've got labs in china working around the clock cranking this stuff they're just they just have the compounds since when it was like when the
Starting point is 00:16:51 when the patent ran out on car fentanyl like whatever veterinary pharmaceutical company in America then it becomes open source so then you have labs in China who are just pumping it out and then they're like we can sneak a baseball size of car fentanyl easier than
Starting point is 00:17:07 a whole big brick of heroin so we just send it over the border you know in some merchandise because it's easy to smoke because it's smaller and then they dilute it once they get it to the U.S. And then that's how they sell it. Fiddle is a real problem.
Starting point is 00:17:20 I don't want to minimize the problems that fentanyl and car fentanyl it sounds like have created. But sedating elephants is also like you need to sedate elephants sometimes because they go into Musk and they go crazy. No, do you think this is a huge problem in India? It's a massive problem.
Starting point is 00:17:36 It's a huge problem. It's domesticated elephants in India. The males go into Musk. They start getting this like black residue that like leaks from the back of their ears and they go nuts and they just start killing people. Yeah, they should
Starting point is 00:17:49 started tearing stuff down and like destroying whole villages and it's because they're like getting it's because they're horny it's like the killer whale uh fin when it starts to droop over okay yeah i got you maybe the the the the take home here is to stop domesticating animals like stop this shit like what the fuck did you want an elephant for bro that's the weirdest shit in the world well back in the day they were basically like excavators and like they used to lift shit we have tools now yeah now we do but you know trucks and forklifts and all kind of crazy not everyone in india yeah not i mean there are some villages that probably don't but yeah i don't know yeah i kind of agree with not keeping an elephant as a pet i know what
Starting point is 00:18:37 we still do here don't that we still have circuses and shit don't we yeah that's true i think i think they might have circuses are like slowly becoming illegal or not slowly zoos i can't wait till zoos are too Zoos are the worst, bro. That in SeaWorld. I honestly, Sea World is the worst. I love zoos, but they're awful places. I still love them.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Like, I like going there to see the animals. I have fun when I do that. But I don't know, I'm a huge hypocrite when it comes to zoos, I guess. Zos do great PR for themselves, too. They always are donating money. Like, they keep themselves, like, looking better than they really are. But I also think to myself, and they get this line of thinking working for them, too. if I were an animal and very much in the middle of the food chain
Starting point is 00:19:23 get me in a zoo I'm all in I'm all in with that zoo life I mean some of the seals at the Central Park Zoo like they get fed every day they chill they seem pretty happy yeah but they probably miss the ocean they don't know what the ocean they miss swimming around captive bread that's sad they don't know that's sad though like Billy imagine if you were bread imagine if you were bred in a country that didn't even have football and you grew up playing soccer. But I wouldn't have known.
Starting point is 00:19:51 You saw a football field one day and you were like one of those dogs when they jump out of the back of a car and they see like a pile of leaves, you just sprint out onto the field, ready to go. You just feel so much natural there, so much at home. I would, it's nature versus nurture. Yeah. All right. Well, I guess fuck zoos, but also zoos are cool.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I love zoos. I do love going. I'm a card carrying member of the Bronx. You're a frequent zoo? I don't know if it got a redo Let me see your zoo car When I was a kid I don't think I think my mom
Starting point is 00:20:24 My mom would give it to me For like my birthday every year Yeah So I think she stopped I'm out on SeaWorld I haven't been to Sea World in a couple years Probably like 10 years Ever since I saw Blackfish
Starting point is 00:20:34 But it was cool when I went there I like seeing I like looking at animals That's all I'm going to say But disavows zoos Yeah blackfish Like once you see the comparison of like how massive whales are
Starting point is 00:20:48 and compare them to the pools they're in, putting that in, that's like us living in a bathtub our whole lives. That's like, I'm out on SeaWorld. Zoos sometimes I feel like do like rehab and they can help live a better life for animals. That's the cover.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Or is that their marketing? Yeah, that's a dope house. What the fuck is Sea World doing? That cleans up graffiti on the side. You know what I mean? That's they cover. Man, fuck out of here, Doug. They're smart.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Think about this. There's more tigers in the United States than there is in the wild. And that's insanity, dog. That's crazy. We'll never live in a world where tigers are extinct because of that. Or you don't know that. Listen, 99% of all life on earth that has existed has died at some point. Animals dying is a part of it.
Starting point is 00:21:39 The issue is us having a hand in the reasons as to why those animals are dying. So if we're actively, you know, de-forced, what's the word, we're cutting out of force or we're fucking up their natural habitat, then it's, it's important for us to reintroduce them into the wild, make sure that they breed and make sure that they grow. Like, that's the problem. We fuck up their homes and then we're like, well, you know, we got them in captivity and think that's the same thing.
Starting point is 00:22:07 No, bro, if I don't want to see a tiger in prison, I don't want to see it. Mm-hmm. Okay, that's a fair point But also, if we have them in captivity Just in case they do go extinct in the wild We can repopulate them Why would they go extinct in the wild though? Global warming
Starting point is 00:22:25 Because we're hunting them down We got some polar bears in zoos And then one day the ice caps totally melt And all the polar bears go away Nothing's worse than seeing a polar bear On a hot day in a zoo Yeah, I feel weird, right? Yeah
Starting point is 00:22:37 It was so weird And that's the thing too It's like, okay, we're ruining their environment and then keeping them alive like they're only there because of that environment was there for them to prosper now that the environment isn't there like they should die off it is what it is i probably have too much um precedent of loving the zoo from a chat like standpoint so it's probably clouding my judgment on this issue yeah you're a zoo stand kind of kind of the reverse here we just got a end end the dream for panda bears they don't want it anymore they don't want to be
Starting point is 00:23:11 here. We're the only ones keeping them going. They don't even fuck anymore. We just inseminate the females so they can keep them going. We only keep pandas so NBA players can go take pictures with baby panda bears every, every off season. We don't need them. They don't want to be here. Let them go. I'd say it's inhumane to keep them going. There's one panda in particular that is like the only panda that fucks. Yeah. Right. Billy look up in. Chad. No, Chad. He was like the joke was the Chad. He was the Chad of the pandas. He fucks all the time. No other panda will fuck, but this dude is responsible for something like
Starting point is 00:23:45 60% of all current living pandas come from his lineage. Of pandas? Yeah, he's the Wilts Chamberlain of pandas. He's the only one that fucks. And the rest of them, you're right, Coley. They show no interest. They do second sex.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Listen, I need you to help me help you, Panthers. You know, meet me halfway on this one. But respect to whatever his name is. Billy, what's his name? I found it. Just Google. Type these words into Google. Horniest panda.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And you'll find the result. Oh, you're saying we got to euthanize the pandas? They're trying to do it themselves. Stud Lulu and make Z. Me completed an 18-minute three-second mating session. Wow, respect. Oh, God. This is the funniest photo ever. An 18-man, what?
Starting point is 00:24:38 18-minute three-second. Who had the stop? Do they need to have it that precise? Like, yeah, they're fucking like 1520. Like, I didn't need the exact time. Well, he started coming. It looks like at 1756, and I'm going to say the last squirt was at 1803. We're going to call it 1803.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Look, yeah, he went a cigarette at 1805, so we knew he was done. Everyone checked the group. I love it. I love it. That panda is getting it in. That is a hat. You know what, Coley? She's smiling.
Starting point is 00:25:09 I disagree now with your take on Panas. because this guy is having the time of his... That's the happiest animal on earth. Listen, if he wants to keep it going, I'm all for it. But the rest of them, I'm out on. They're doing reverse cowgirl. We're just seeing...
Starting point is 00:25:25 This is not how the pandas naturally innate. Mate, this is just two pandas that are really good at fucking. Yeah, these are... Regardless of species. These panas, oh, this... So, for those listening at home, we got two pandas,
Starting point is 00:25:37 reverse cowgirl. This is real. Yeah. And then one of the pandas, the male panda. I think he's reaching around touching a clit. Yeah, he's giving a serious O-face. And he's, you know. He knows he's killing it.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Yeah, he does. Stroke game is very strong. Two hands on the love handles. Like, this could be a cartoon. This is oddly satisfying. I mean, hearing about all the times giant pandas were going extinct to see this, this, you know. It's good.
Starting point is 00:26:10 There's hope. This is all worth it. hopefully maybe pandas their problem is they never see other pandas have sex yeah because they've been kind of like you know low tea for such a long time they don't they don't grow up with uh with any sort of like love interest in their they they don't see representation of love in their society you know she's smiling too she's like finally the this door the distortion we need more panda porn is what yeah yeah no that's exactly i'm saying we need to show pandas once they're of age i don't know at what point do they become adults that's another big question we have to ask once they stop
Starting point is 00:26:47 going down those cute slides then then you can start jamming porn just clockwork orange porn into pandas eyes i don't think they ever stop going down the cute slides though i think for life they just do the tumble thing where they do somersaults wherever they go and then like an adult zookeeper has to help them up oh it's so funny when like turns out in the zoos there's like people who have to make sure the pandas like don't kill themselves by accident not because they want to because they keep falling out of trees because they're just so bad at like natural coordination nowadays so but hey you never hear about pandas attacking people i actually i watched like a 20 minute video on bear evolution over the weekend it's not a surprise at all no so it turns out
Starting point is 00:27:35 Bears' closest living relatives today are seals, sea lions. They're not as close to dogs as we think or cats. They're more of like down the line of seals, sea lions, you know, raccoons, ferrets, mustelids. What's a mustelid? Those are like, you know, minks, ferrets, carnivorous, weasels, that sort of thing. Wolverines, honey badgers, badgers, those types. So, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:07 All right. So, but you didn't answer my question. Do panda bears attack humans ever? No. Okay, cool. Are they actually bears? They are bears, but they're, you know. Because I know the red panda is not a bear.
Starting point is 00:28:20 The red panda is more like a raccoon. Oh, is that glorified raccoon. Yeah. They're communists. That's what they are. Excellent acrobatist, though. But Groller bears, Groeler bears, global warming is causing polar bears and grizzly bears to start you know interbreeding and creating some crazy hybrids that like a hunter
Starting point is 00:28:43 shot a grower bear and there was a whole big thing about was it a polar bear or a grizzly bear does his grizzly bear tag you know count and it's that it's crazy billy talks about new bears like i talk about weed strands yeah i had never heard of roller bears this is yeah google it they it's actually their coloration is pretty weird because they kind of actually look like pandas sometimes because of the differences in colors they call it a Pizzley there's Pizzleys which it depends on who's the mother who's the father Pizzley is a bad name I like Grover Bear Growler's much better all right well that's bear talk that's that's the bear necessities on yeah like then there's sloth bears okay we're not done with bear talk
Starting point is 00:29:28 No, but going to back, going back to like... Somebody hit the Buffalo Wild Winds button. Going back to our panda bears, like really like bears. But if you check out a sloth bear, you're starting to see that connection between raccoons and bears. Yeah. What about a sun bear? Sun bears are just like sloth bears. They've got that tongue, right?
Starting point is 00:29:48 Yeah, they're kind of soft bears. They're soft bears. Yeah, like, they're the type of bears that are basically giant raccoons. I actually think I could kill a panda with my bear hands, an adult panda. I think of tongues. are super long the sloth no the sun bear the sun bear yeah do you think I could kill a panda
Starting point is 00:30:04 no that nigga oh no no you'd a hundred percent if you could walk into one of those zoos where they breed them in China and just fuck one up you can punt one well not not like a baby I'm not talking about I could kill a baby of any species in the world that's not that easy what you're calling
Starting point is 00:30:20 cap you can kill a baby of any species in the world name a name a species a baby orca whale could kill you any baby any baby whale a baby well maybe a baby chimp baby shark a baby chimp are you kidding me arian a baby
Starting point is 00:30:36 chimp that weighs like four pounds can't even walk yet what about a baby uh doesn't know how to smoke cigarettes or wear funny hats I would fuck that thing up any any any big whale or shark or something like that I don't think you can get sharks are really small when they're born
Starting point is 00:30:52 baby elephant I think a baby elephant would be really hard no I would walk immediately it's so thick I would kill a baby elephant It would be too trusting It wouldn't have been jaded by life yet It would just like come up to me And I would just drop kick it in its side
Starting point is 00:31:07 It would fall over I think you can actually Little sharks Sharks are pretty small when they're wrong I think But don't they solve teeth Elephants are sneaking Like handheld
Starting point is 00:31:15 Like handheld like handheld Like type of shit I saw this video I would take a baby shark And I would throw it out of the water On to land Game over I went
Starting point is 00:31:25 Baby sharks are like tiny They're like fish size Exactly. So I win. I beat a shark. Orcas are eight and a half feet and three hundred fifty pounds. Baby orca, baby orca would fuck you up. But they're not mean yet. They don't know how to fight. They know. They're born pretty pissed off. Dude, orca whales kill for fun.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Dude, orca whales don't attack humans though. They don't want to take humans. What if a human's actively attacking them? Well, they do kill humans. Yeah, I don't think that's true. Their prison guards is this baby from, yeah, is it, is it of the Tillycomb lineage? Yeah, it is. he'd kill you.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Okay, a relative till he comes might kill me. But besides that, I think I could. I could kill any baby mammal. Wait, whales a mammal, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yep. Any land mammal? Any baby land mammal? No, I think honestly, I saw this video of like a tourist in Thailand
Starting point is 00:32:13 fucking around with a baby elephant. The baby elephant toss this chick. So I would fuck up a tiny baby. Are you talking about like a baby
Starting point is 00:32:23 like a brand new born? Yes. Give him a chance to develop his faculties. No, it's out the room and PFT. Six hours, six hours. You got six hours to learn your surroundings. I'll tell you, I'd spear the shit out of a baby giraffe.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Yeah. I'd break all its legs. You would take it out of his knees? I would form, tackle that shit. No, but you go, you would break all it. You would like Greg Shiano it. Yeah, and then I'd crack its neck, dude. Yeah, I mean, that's what you have to go for.
Starting point is 00:32:54 Yeah. I just spear its neck. I would tear, I would tie. its neck in a knot around itself. I haven't had a chance to talk to you since Saturday. I was meeting almost Tennessee head coach Greg Shiana. Oh, it was great. Got to meet Greg Shiano on Saturday at Rutgers University.
Starting point is 00:33:09 He came up, shook my hand, put his hand on my shoulder, said some words to me. I said some words to him. I'll leave that between us. Love that. Don't have to talk about, you know, an intimate conversation between a couple of Shiano men out there. But it was great. It was fun to be at Rutgers. Rutgers is such a funny school, man.
Starting point is 00:33:26 I love it. I love it. It's just like it is New Jersey. It is just concentrated New Jersey and they're 3 and O this year and they're probably going to get their ass kicked by Michigan next week. But you know what? I don't care. Rutgers is 3 and O. And it was on James Gandalfini's 60th birthday. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. The birthplace of college football. The cradle of Gandalfini. And so I was asked to give a speech when I got on stage for the Pepperelli there. And well, a couple things happened. So first they brought me, Glennie balls and Hank on stage. And then they just had the dance team dance directly next to us for about two minutes nonstop. And I'm telling you, my eyes have never been so straightforward, dead ahead in my life. Because I knew people out there had cameras. And I didn't want to get like a still frame shot of me just like staring at the girl doing the leg kicks directly to my right. So it's just like, eyes straight ahead, focus where you need to focus. The pep rally guy came over to me. He was like, okay we want you to lead the r u chant and i said okay i can do that wait what's the r you chant and he says well you say are and then the audience says you and then you say are and they say
Starting point is 00:34:37 you and you keep going i was like okay yeah i can handle that i got that one pretty easy and um then the alumni got on stage and absolutely cut me out of my r u chant they started doing the r u chant so i didn't know what to do they handed me the mic i had to improvise a speech in front of like a couple thousand Rutgers fans and I mean what do you say at that point I just I emptied I emptied the chamber with every single Rutgers fact that I had ready to go I was just like the birthplace of college football right here
Starting point is 00:35:09 crowd goes nuts James Gandalfini went here crowd goes nuts and then I say I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge that it was James Gandalfini's 60th birthday today or it would have been and then the crowd just absolutely went totally silent because they got sad and then I looked around and I was trying to figure out
Starting point is 00:35:28 how to how to raise the level of enthusiasm after bringing everybody down by reminding them that James Gandalfini's dead I just looked over at Gleney I thought about just handing the microphone to Gleney and letting him take over from there but I panicked I had no idea what to say so I just go
Starting point is 00:35:42 R and I get another RU chant going Is this recorded somewhere? Bro turns out Kodiak bears might have some gene flow polar bears. Okay. And that's why they're so large.
Starting point is 00:35:56 All right. Massive. Well, yeah, then I got to meet Greg Shiano and I'm sure he was very confused as to why they were having him shake the hand of a guy that looks like me right before a game. But then Rutgers went on. They crushed it. So that was fun. So I was under the impression that he like knew who you were in your affinity for him.
Starting point is 00:36:15 You don't think somebody told him to? I don't think Greg Shiano has the internet. I really don't. I think Greg Shiano lives inside. I think he knew. Shiano's environment. I think somebody at the university told him, like, hey, this is PFT. He does a podcast on Barstall Sports, and he's a big fan of yours.
Starting point is 00:36:31 He always talks about being a Shiano man. And then they brought him by. I think I would be shocked if Greg Shiano was, like, if he paid attention to podcasts. I think he probably thinks pod. He thinks the internet is a waste of time. He's not wrong. He's actually dead right about that. One of many reasons that I'm a Shiano man.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Greatest thing of recent memory is Bo Burnham's Welcome to the Internet. That's some of the most brilliant shit ever put together. So yes, he's right, but he's wrong as well. Uh-huh. Aaron, you didn't play against Shiano's Tampa Bay teams, did you? I do not recall. I don't think so. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:37:16 I don't know. If you were winning in the fourth quarter and you were kneeling the clock out, they would have dove at your knees. That was kind of his. Oh, I remember hearing about that. Yeah. I think he did that to the Giants. I don't think he did that to the Texans.
Starting point is 00:37:29 No, I remember hearing about it, though. I don't remember who played, who was the coach. I think 2011 when we played Tampa. He was there 12 and 13. So 2011, would that be, who was prior to shit? Was that like Gruden? No. No.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Oh, he was the. No, Dirk Cutter was after him. Dirk Cutter was afterwards, yeah. Yeah, no, I think I played him since 2011. Was that Lovie? Or was Lovie still in Chicago? I think Chicago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Hang on. The defensive back? Oh, I, he's, it was Rahim Morris. Rahim Morris, that's right, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. They gave him, like, one season, right? He was there for three years, actually.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Oh, three years? Nine to 11, yeah. All right, well, unless Billy has any more bear facts, I want to move on to one more thing before we get into the meat of today's show. The topic will be prostitution. We're talking toots today, as Coley put in the group chat. Talking toots, we'll get to it in just one thing before we do, though. An update on the ongoing feud with son of a boy dad.
Starting point is 00:38:40 We've received, I don't want to use the person's name, but it's somebody that works on the show that has sent me a couple DMs recently, kind of outlining what they're dealing with in the work environment over there on son of a boydad. So I'm just, I'm going to read this off. It's anonymous. You can probably figure out, if you listen to the show, you can figure out probably who it would be that would send something like this.
Starting point is 00:39:04 But just, these are some DMs. I've gotten kind of a collection of stories from some of their fans that have been sent to their producer, sorry, they're the person who works on their show that's obviously not happy with them. When I was 15,
Starting point is 00:39:20 little Sasquatch was doing a contest of fans making a bust of him and sending it to him. Danielle Asavita wrote alongside a picture of her painting the Little Sasquatch replica. I worked so hard on this and even wrote her a letter. Weeks later, she used it as a prop in a game, excuse me, he used it as a prop in a game and gave it away to a random person with $500 attached to the bottom. She's giving away a fan art that their fans are sending into them. It's kind of sad.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Here's somebody that worked at a local restaurant here. I worked on 7th Avenue, and I saw Roan at brunch. Roan wrote a letter to the owner and complained about my chip nail polish, not that was on his plate, but just that it was on my hand. I had worked till closing the night before, and this was the next morning. He almost got me fired. When my restaurant managers sat me down and asked if I had served Roan at brunch, I was actually pumped because I thought maybe he'd want to use me for a bit on their show.
Starting point is 00:40:24 I'm an actress and a comedian. At that time, it would have loved a break. But alas, it wasn't that. I was just so surprised that Roan would take time out of his day to be negative to someone who served him, who was obviously on a lower position than him and also probably an artist of some kind. It was just petty and cruel and short-sighted on his part. And for what? To put out negative and harmful energy to others.
Starting point is 00:40:48 This is just, you know, I got so many of these stories sent to me. Apparently, Lil Sass has a very sensitive nose, and that's well known around son of a boy dad. And if you're going to be talking to him in the studio, he makes you chew gum from a bowl that he keeps outside the studio before saying a word. And if he thinks that you smell that day, he will tell you to leave, go home and shower because his nose is so sensitive. And they are, obviously, you know, we've all heard the stories about how he picks someone new every day to hate on his staff. And it's not their fault. You just have to suck it up for the day. And then he'll be mean to someone else the next day.
Starting point is 00:41:28 And, you know, everyone, people don't believe it when they first start working on this podcast. But it ends up becoming extremely true is what I've heard for people. It's crazy the turnover rate of the staff for that show. Yeah. How many people get hired then leave? Yeah. And that's a little suspicious. they joke around about a lot of stuff, but then some things are like really off limits.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Like, I know that SAS is overly sensitive to jokes about animals because he had been, you know, a vegan in the past. And so, but we, you can't even joke about animals around him because he takes it seriously. And I guess he cares about animals, which is good, but he's very sensitive. So I heard that someone tried to show him a funny viral video and way in the distance. you could barely hear a dog barking, he'll scream at you and say, can't you hear that animal is in distress? Why did you show me this? And then he'll kick them out. So just wanted to share some things that have been sent along to us about son of a boy dad. Not those aren't about Ellen DeGeneres. Those are about son of a boy dad. So yeah, just, you know, food for thought.
Starting point is 00:42:35 I know we've got a feud or whatever going on, but I was once told, don't get into an argument with a fool because from a distance no one will be able to tell the two apart. So I will not be arguing with son of a boy dad. And that's that. Before we get into the Stoots talk, we want to talk to you guys about our great friends over at Helix Sleep. Helix Sleep has a quiz. It takes just two minutes to complete. And it matches your body type and sleep preferences to the perfect mattress for you.
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Starting point is 00:45:10 is this the biggest podcast at this company? No, we're tied. Who? No, I'm not talking about numbers, Billy. No, no, I'm saying person-wise. Person-wise? I'm talking about like, BMI, like, like, girth, like mass.
Starting point is 00:45:32 With the exception of myself, Mad Dog, Avery, we're, we got some big boys on their show. Units, units, the units pod. Do they do a podcast? They don't do a podcast. What are you weighing in at now, Aaron? Uh, should be like 2.30? 2.30? Yeah. Yeah, Aaron can still do some damage. I think Aaron might be able to beat up everybody at this company except for Willie Cologne. I was just going to say, I feel like the only like Barstall breakfasts.
Starting point is 00:46:03 Yeah. Large Willie. Yeah, Edrian could take large. Willie is just, if you ever see Willie when he moves quickly, and it's rare that he gets into that mode where he feels he should run somewhere, but it's genuinely terrifying watching Willie Cologne run at like six foot six and probably 375, 380 pounds, it scares me to see him move. Yeah, there was one day he was like, I was like trying to block him. and he was going like 25%
Starting point is 00:46:36 and I was just like yeah it's not not like in your playing days and then he just picked me up and I can't describe to you like and I'm sure Big T and Aryan and probably Billy although Billy's not as like cumbersome like I can't remember the last time another human being
Starting point is 00:46:54 had picked me up yeah more than I was trying like I'm pretty sure I've picked you up PFT I've picked up a lot of it's just a thing I do start crying because yeah a child just a strange feeling to be like I know how much I weigh
Starting point is 00:47:10 like it's not an easy weight to just lift and Willie did it without like really even thinking twice about it the first time I met Willie I'm I'm 66 and a big dude the shaking his hand was terrifying
Starting point is 00:47:25 like he's just I don't know the word to you like you just you see these guys on TV and you're like yeah those guys are big he's just like it's crazy the biggest dude i ever met who i literally was like this guy is a house kyle long he is the largest human i ever met who i just was like whoa crazy strong not only is he tall he is wide we were we were talking about we were talking about ages on twitter yesterday which i'm sure big t saw he hated every second of it but someone brought it up and they were like i know this doesn't really apply but it never
Starting point is 00:48:01 make sense in my brain that Julio Jones and Steph Curry are the same height. That's actually wow. When you think about it. Right. Like, Steph, you think of him as like a little guy. And then he stands next to any football player. And it's like, why is he towering over Cam Newton? What's that? What's going on? That one is more
Starting point is 00:48:19 fair than just picking a midpoint between two years. Right. But it's like, I mean, it's all about perspective, obviously. But it's true. Like, I don't think people genuinely understand how big NBA players are until you're like near them wait wait wait wait cam newton is definitely bigger than step kerry they're like the same i i think camp six three and step kerry six five yeah cam six five i do think that six three is like NBA players get measured when they're in college and then really never again i don't think stuff's that short anymore and hasn't been
Starting point is 00:48:56 for a while russell westbrook also in my mind is short yeah right And he's, how tall are you, Billy? Like, six four? Yeah. Yeah, so you guys are probably looking eye to eye. You know who is tall? I mean, who is small is Chris Paul. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Oh, yeah. He took five one. We had to see, we had the same dentist and I, and I walked in. Damn, you really? Wait, so, like, you just, you walked into the dentist office. He was, like, sitting in the waiting room, reading copies of, like, highlights magazine. Bowling monthly, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:27 I don't think, I don't think it was reading anything, but, yeah. I mean, me guys go to Dennis, too, man. Man, you think a personal dentist pull up to the crib and take out of wisdom, too, thinking. That doesn't sound unreasonable to me. Yeah, and the NBA cost of $45 this year. That would be ridiculous, though. Like, nobody is that famous, though, except for Michael Jackson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:47 And his doctor didn't do a great job on him either. His dentist. We have one fuck up. A perfect street gone until that. We don't know about his dentist. His dentist could have been. Yeah, yeah. He looked like he had solid.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Chief? I got to go to the dentists. Yeah, dentists, you know what? I disagree with the area. I think that if I've made a shitload of money, I would want the old-timey doctor and dentist to show up at my house with the metal circle thing on his forehead and the leather bag that he carries with him inside with all of his doctor tools. I would want that. That sure would be whack, because your house probably not sanitary.
Starting point is 00:50:25 It's not a good workstation for him. So he's doing like a subpar job because you want an exclusive dentist experience. I'm not that's not it's not smart when his current contract ends in 2025 chris paul will have made almost half a billion dollars playing basketball that's a reasonable amount to have a personal dentist yeah i think so you make 500 million you can have you can have a house call well he doesn't he meeting him in the same dentist if i ever made a like a ton of money i don't see my like like my tastes changing you know what do you mean no no absolutely change yeah no like i'm telling you telling you realize
Starting point is 00:51:02 now that that's that's not a taste that's what I mean like I don't think I'd be extra with like self care just because I thought you meant like with wine you drink or something I don't know what dentist you have yeah what are you saying
Starting point is 00:51:16 like I like Billy is saying like if I was a if he was a millionaire he would not go to the dentist more frequently than he does now yeah I agree yes I agree I don't really go to dentist like that yeah I don't really go to dentist like that yeah I don't that's reasonable
Starting point is 00:51:30 Yeah, I haven't been in the dentist in a couple years. Pandemic was tough on dentists, huh? Yeah. No one wants to go. They said, matter of fact, I might have it on my phone. They used to send me texts like, like, yo, it's time for your dentist's for him. And this was like, still pandemic. I used to send a little virus emoji with a dude going like this.
Starting point is 00:51:48 I refused. It's not, I need to. It's been about two years since I've been. That's about that time. If you brush and floss regularly, though, you don't need to do it that much. Are you really flossing? Yeah. Floss?
Starting point is 00:52:01 You get the floss out. You grow up in floss. Nogging, floss. Every day, though. You every day. Pretty much every day, yeah. Especially after, like, after you eat a meal, like, the shit gets stuck in your teeth. So you just got, that's, you're going to have right.
Starting point is 00:52:16 No, why I get a toothpick. Like, if I go to, like, I mean a steak and I got food between my teeth. Floss, me. I guarantee you got some shit in there, bro. Just floss. Get the snugg. Why, are you like anti-floss? You ask this?
Starting point is 00:52:27 Like, do you really? No, I'm just like, oh, are you flossing every day? I'm like, yeah. I mean, I'm kind of with Billy. Who the hell is actually flossed? I floss once a week. I do mouthwash when I buy it and brush my teeth twice a day. But why are you still against flossing?
Starting point is 00:52:43 I don't know because I just like, it's like, you're full of shit. You don't floss every day. I think Billy thinks that the dentist are out to get them. Whoa, whoa, whoa, back it up. Billy, how did you just say hygienist? Hygienist. Hygienist. I like hygienist.
Starting point is 00:52:58 That's a hygienist. How do you say that? You said hygienist. Hygienist. Yeah, that's not how you said it the first time, though. Throw back to tape. I nailed that. Floss, Billy.
Starting point is 00:53:12 Go floss, Billy. Okay. Also, speaking of, oh, go, go, go, go. No, no, go ahead. Speaking of doctors for Billy, some guy left a voicemail saying that he had the same issue Billy did and got diagnosed with diabetes like six months later. Damn.
Starting point is 00:53:28 Wow, Billy. So you might want to, you might want to. You might want to hit one up. You got to go see a doctor. You have to go see a doctor, bro. I don't know what's the fucking diabetes? No, like you always talking about something like you don't go to the doctor. No, I haven't gone to the doctor because my pediatrician kicked me out.
Starting point is 00:53:43 That's not a, I haven't seen him in three years. He's like, this is my checkups. Hey, doc. And he's like, yeah, you haven't been in for an appointment. Like, is anything pressing? Like, no. And he's like, yeah, you're good. He was just giving you.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I would, I would. Off notch, doctor. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so you weren't even going in for your appointment. Yeah, I'd be like, hey, I like, that's not a doctor's appointment. I have a sore throat calling somebody on the phone. He would just, he would just like, if I ever needed like a prescription, he'd like send me,
Starting point is 00:54:12 he'd like refer me to like a dermatologist when I was like, Doc, there's something on my wrists. Ivermectin scabies. Yeah, okay. So you just call up your doctor. Hey, doc, I got a sore throat. He's like, oh, dude, that sucks. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:28 You should go see a real dog. So prostitutes. Prostitutes. The world's oldest profession, which right off the bat, cap. That's cap. I don't think it's the world's oldest profession at all. Well, actually, it literally is. No. Dude, they taught, they trained monkeys how to use money. I've seen that. And the first thing they did was give it to other monkeys to have sex with them.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Yeah, because you're a monkey. What else are you going to do? What else are you going to spend your money on? We were monkeys before we were humans. They don't have cars. That's not, that's not, that's not entirely true. They don't gamble on sports. We weren't monkeys. Before we were humans?
Starting point is 00:55:08 No, bro. We were cousins of monkeys. Well, if you go back, we were never monkeys. Okay, but we're cousins of monkeys. No fucking technically. This is literally the argument creation it's used to say, if we were monkeys, where there's two monkeys. No, we are. No, okay, so we were a.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I think you just made that up. We were. It didn't just make that up. literally evolutionary biology money i know but but like we had a common ancestor who looked a lot like a monkey and probably i know but for the sake of people who don't know about lucy and austral we're a very we're a very scientifically responsible podcast you gotta make sure i've also heard lucy was a fraud though right no lucy was real no but one of the one of those was our common ancestor if we taught on how to use money they would 100% just use it for sex that's that was my point maybe yours mine
Starting point is 00:55:58 doesn't have to pay for it. We're all one human species. Yeah. So anyways, I don't think it is the world's oldest profession. And I'll tell you why. All right. If you're going to assert it,
Starting point is 00:56:08 you have to give us what you think it is. Chef. I think cook. I think people would give money for other people's food before they gave money for fucking. No, you know why?
Starting point is 00:56:21 Because they were eating the monkeys just ate off the trees. The monkeys don't have chefs. But if there's a monkey that's got. We weren't monkeys. You weren't monkeys. Okay. Our common ancestor used to eat raw food and just be gatherers. There was no cooking. They didn't invent fire. Let's just say that our common ancestor collected a shitload of almonds one day. And here comes another common ancestor and they're hungry because they don't have any almonds. Their almond supplies are negligible. And so they're walking down the little path in the jungle. And sure, they might be a little bit horny, but guess what? They're hungry. What are they going to do? You're going to pay money for you? Nut for nut, nut for nut.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Can I get that almond? Like, no, no, you give me nut. And then I get you nut. I get the joke. Yeah, you didn't have to explain it. It's a good joke. It's a good job. Billy, you had a banger and you fucked it up, man.
Starting point is 00:57:10 That was a good joke. No, I was the exchange. I was showing that the exchange of goods, nut for nut. Alex. Well, no, PFT, my argument would be you would probably just kill that guy and take it as nuts. There wasn't like a civil discourse about like, oh, I'll trade you for your nuts. Like, it was just murder. Well, okay, so there probably wasn't.
Starting point is 00:57:28 The first barter was food for food and not for sex. I think that there were probably people, like early people, that developed massive amounts of food. They would have like a storage place of food. Maybe their crops were really good. They were awesome at planting. They were good farmers. I think that people were probably more likely to pay money for food than they were for sex. Overall.
Starting point is 00:57:57 But was anyone solo back then? I feel like everyone was grouped up. Primates, primates habitually, wait, habitually over the course of weeks or months, exchange food for sex indirectly. I agree,
Starting point is 00:58:17 but I think this is more of a chicken and an egg scenario. Yeah. Because you need food and you need sex. Well, you need sex. The thing is they, it is a top. priority desire. They're not too worried about variety when survival is their one thing.
Starting point is 00:58:33 But I don't think survival was there one thing. Well, my, my thought would have been, it would have been a barter of sex for shelter, not even necessarily food, because shelter was also a necessity. All right. So if you look at Maslow's pyramid for the hierarchy of needs, we're going to get real deep into this shit right now. That's actually a fire low reference. Go ahead. The physiological needs are at the very bottom. It's the base. What you need, first of all, in order to live a productive life, the thing that people look for first are their physiological needs, which include food, water, warmth, and rest. Next up, is safety. So that would be security. Next up, on top of that, intimate relationships and friends. So at the bottom,
Starting point is 00:59:15 the very basic level of the pyramid of needs, as told by Maslow, is that you have to have food, water, warmth, and rest. So I would assume that the world's oldest profession would be either a farmer or a cook or a chef or maybe somebody that's just got an extra room. I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm saying I do think that the cycle analysis of his pyramid does not necessarily extend to our ancestors. That's more of our in our current society, which he's not wrong. In order to prosper, that pyramid should look like that to have a functioning healthy emotional state.
Starting point is 00:59:59 But I think when you're dealing with early primates that didn't have the cognitive reflection that we do, I think sex was huge. Like I think it was like a primal drive. It's literally the reason why we're here is because they were driven to have sex. So there's no, I don't see there being a good reason as to say that it wasn't a big part of any kind of. to trade. Reproduction was higher up. Yeah. Like that was more necessary.
Starting point is 01:00:28 Like you needed more numbers in order to survive. Yeah, exactly. Do you think when prostitution first got started, people were paying money because they wanted to reproduce? Like, they wanted to have a kid. And it's like, hey, I will, I will pay you $20 if you'll fuck me and I can give you a kid. Because I feel like that would be a major, like price just went way up. like you want me to fuck you and have a child was there ever like reproduction tied to prostitution
Starting point is 01:00:56 or was it all just like straight up recreation well prostitution amongst animals which is a very well studied subject because it occurs amongst adele penguins chimpanzees bonobos and other primates but the act of giving bringing stuff to the mate to impress them be birds is a huge factor in reproduction or just wearing a cool watch that doesn't make a prostitution though if you like show up wearing a sick like you got a Richard Millie and you show up and then you get laid that night
Starting point is 01:01:29 but you don't give it to them I think that's a bad analogy the better analogy is like buying her heels or something like that buying her a purse something like that yeah but as as an OG told me a long time ago
Starting point is 01:01:41 you don't pay a prostitute to have sex you pay a prostitute to leave fact yep get out get it Billy Billy's doing the math right now and Billy Billy
Starting point is 01:01:52 Billy you ain't had an old you tell you that yet but you're welcome man so who knows if it was actually the world's oldest professional
Starting point is 01:02:01 but it's definitely great branding though it is it's a good slogan great branding it's like you see some restaurants that say like
Starting point is 01:02:07 the worlds are the like the state's the state's oldest continually run bakery meaning like it's yeah it's only been around for 40 years
Starting point is 01:02:17 but the other bakery across town had to close down for like two weeks when they got the flu back in 1980. But it's very good branding for the biz. It also makes it sound a little bit classier when you're like, you know what? Like literally everyone in the history of Earth has done what I'm about to do
Starting point is 01:02:37 and that's drive to Staten Island and pay $15 for a hand job. It's ingrained in my DNA. All right? You can't blame me for that. It's not a very specific. No, I wouldn't know. You record.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I recall. Cards on the table. I've never paid for sex. If you have, no judgment. I know a lot of people listening might have gone to a massage parlor or whatever. I know people that have. It just seems, I don't know, seems, like, it was never something that was, that appealed to me. I didn't really, I didn't really get it.
Starting point is 01:03:11 Part of, I guess I'm old school. For me, part of the joy of fucking is the. person wants to fuck you and not just because you pay it but i guess some prostitutes really you know they they like the relationship i'm not i'm not here to judge about anything like that either just you're the you're the calipari son or not given yeah exactly exactly but um has anybody you don't have to say but if you want to say anybody ever paid for it i think sex work you know i'm i'm progressive man so i think sex work is nothing to be shunned. I think if we, this is a hot take, I think it should be legal. I think it should be regulated
Starting point is 01:03:53 so that you can go to a clinic and you can get whatever female of your choice. If she is willing, then you can look at her SDD history and make sure that they can get regularly tested. It would just be a much more safe environment because it's going to happen. Like anything that you black market is it's going to, it's going to be there. So, I say all that is say, yes, I have participated in the sex workforce. It's been a long time. Let's go. Yeah, it's been a long time.
Starting point is 01:04:26 But, yeah, I don't think it should be shunned. I think it should be legal. I should be regulated. That way also, you cut down a lot on a serious note, right? You cut out of the business of the underground world of it, and that will cut down child sex trafficking is what the real issue I see with sex work is, especially globally. But, yeah. The Nordic model, as they call it, is the persecution of sex traffickers as opposed to sex workers.
Starting point is 01:04:56 Okay. So that's like trying to. The Johns, which is the proper turn for like, or the madame's. Yeah? Yeah, I keep going. Yeah. How did you say? No, I like it.
Starting point is 01:05:11 The madams. Billy speaking English is like. Brad Pitt and inglorious bastards trying to speak Italian. Gourlamo. That's technically a French word to be heard of Billy. Yeah, madame. Madams. Madams.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Yeah. Yeah. So that's what they, that's the words for, uh, like people who, who like are the head honchos of the brothels. Pimps.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Pimp's. No, Bill. John's, no, no, John's are, John's are not the head honchos of the brothels of the bravo.
Starting point is 01:05:43 Johns are the people, the, the, people that show up and the customers the customers yes yes the pimps the pimps and the madams madame madams in the prostit to the employees so they don't persecute the employees they persecute the bosses okay i like that i agree with arian i think that it should be legalized i think that it should people that choose that line of work should be empowered it should be regulated and you should essentially work for yourself if you want to or you can work at a business that will set you up with everything that you need to do your job.
Starting point is 01:06:20 And if you feel safe, secure, and you bring it out of the darkness into the light, I think that makes it safer for everybody involved. So I don't see a problem with it. The counterargument would be if it's readily available, then you're going to see like the destruction of the family unit. And it's going to be more tempting for people. If you're the kind of guy that's going to go to see a prostitute because it's legal, you're definitely
Starting point is 01:06:45 you definitely would have done it if it was illegal you know I don't I don't think that's stopping anybody from doing it I think only fans is gonna like if you're I feel like it's much more profitable to be an only fans person than a prostitute
Starting point is 01:07:02 they're trying to clean up the image now I think they're taking a pornography off of their website which to me is whack as hell because you branded yourself as like that number one number two you take a lot of like revenue from a lot of people who you know depended on that and that that sucks and one of the funnier things is i followed this this girl who uh is a twitch streamer she's like
Starting point is 01:07:24 super family friendly i'm talking about she doesn't curse on her stream like when i first got into twitch we had uh we had got up uh but anyway they she sent a uh email that only fans sent her and said do you like to have content on only fans and i'm talking about she's like super family friendly friendly friendly like she doesn't curse she's like hi guys like that kind of thing right and like i guess they're trying to like rebrand with with all kind of like family friendly content which is insane to me you feel like a porno site it is what it is i i did a bit where i had an only fans called billy feetball um i had three i just i literally just created the account it's a joke and then i made the subscription like super expensive because i never thought anyone would actually buy it uh and like i was
Starting point is 01:08:11 like a joke and then like three people actually bought it and then how much was it it was like a hundred dollars i was like no one's gonna buy this shit and so then you had to upload feedpicks yeah but i had like one as a joke was just a picture of my fucking like sweaty ass size 14 foot but turns out there's a there's a there's a supply there's a demand for that sort of stuff so weird where's it where's the account at now what's i deleted it i deleted it it was getting too weird because then the subscribers got very angry that i wasn't posting any more content because it was a joke i didn't actually think that people take that a dollar dollars man that that's just a lot of feat that they expected um i i want to talk real quick about the temple of aphrodite at a cro
Starting point is 01:08:57 acro-corinth a cro-corinth i think it's a crocourth what terrible pronunciation how do you say bill should work on it how do you say it billy let me check it out yeah all right Get back to me on that one. Is that on your fact sheet? Do you have this place on your fact sheet? I know what you're going to... Okay, but Billy hasn't... Just for the record,
Starting point is 01:09:16 Billy has not passed out a fact sheet since he got into the fact off of Big T. I think Billy's been scared away from doing facts sheets anymore. But the temple of Aphrodite is... It's an ancient temple that... I guess it honored, obviously, Aphrodite, and it was around the city of Corinth. And what would happen there is every...
Starting point is 01:09:39 young woman. I'm trying to get the exact time frame. It looks like it was around 44 BC is where they built this temple. And in the surrounding town, every woman would have to stop by this temple and become a prostitute. And essentially, the rule was you show up, men stop by late at night after drinking their wine or whatever and they see all these women they throw whatever denomination of money they please into the woman's lap she takes the man they have sex she no longer has to live at that temple it's essentially freeing her so it's one of the first written down examples of prostitution in the history of the world now there would be women that would not have men pay for them immediately so they would have to live at the temple
Starting point is 01:10:34 until you get fucked, until you get a John to come pick you up. So there were some women that these poor women had to live there for years at a time because they just weren't getting selected to get laid. And there were some women that would just show up there and they're out in like three hours. But it was every woman in town had to go through that process as they became a woman. That was like their right of passage into womanhood. That just would have sucked if you were one of the, women that showed up and then you're like, come on, can I just, can someone just please have
Starting point is 01:11:08 sex to me so I can leave? So I have to be a prostitute any longer. Yeah, there's a couple examples of these temples that practice sacred prostitution as like a sacrifice to some sort of God. Yeah, this was sacred prostitution to Aphrodite. So that's why it wasn't like, it wasn't a going rate for whatever the prostitutes cost. It was just, okay, this is a donation that you're making to the God. Yeah, it was like Mesopotamia had it too Ancient Greece
Starting point is 01:11:36 But you can kind of see How you know Like It wasn't the best system And something like Christianity With super strict laws came about Just like to Sort of put a curb on
Starting point is 01:11:49 I actually think that priests Should be allowed to use prostitutes All right I think they should I think it's weird as shit That priests just they say that they are no longer sexual
Starting point is 01:12:05 that they have like no physical urges they're dedicated to God and that's fine you can think that but you're also a human and the strong desire that you have is to procreate I think repressing all that shit leads to some really bad situations
Starting point is 01:12:21 let them just go get their rocks off doesn't have to be an emotional transaction let them have a little bit of a release Because I don't, I think that we've seen over the past, oh, I don't know, several thousand years that the system that we have in place right now isn't really working out that well for a lot of them. And I'm not saying all of them, but I'm saying it's a significant enough margin where maybe it's time to just explore letting them fulfill the one thing that their brain is programmed to do above all else. I am a fan of priests getting their rocks off. has there ever been a story because monks have to abstain too as well right
Starting point is 01:13:04 yeah monks like abstain from talking sometimes right from a lot of stuff but to my knowledge and maybe this is a story waiting to explode but they've never had anything like the catholic church has the monks because they they live in their monasteries in the like on top of mountains so i think if a monk goes crazy they just end up wiping out the monks that are around them it's an unforgiving environment essentially so monks just aren't yeah exposed to children as compared like going to catholic school my whole life you're exposed to priests a lot yeah that's kind of weird is like imagine if the monks that are like hey okay you know to be fair to them they're just out in the forest of bavaria making their beer and you know just as far as i know they're just
Starting point is 01:13:51 like copy books barehanded all day they just write what's in different books in another book i've only seen like four movies in my life and that's all I've seen but um imagine if they're like hey you know what's a great idea why don't we just get a bunch of kids around for a while i know that we're not like allowed to have kids of her own but what if we took other people's kids and made them live with us for a while that would send up some red flags i would think right pick ones yeah just in just in the like little google search and i don't i don't have any verifications but just uh it would be fun not fun it would be interesting to look into but like yeah there's there's there's some scandals with Buddhist monks and, like, child sex trafficking and stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:14:32 I think it's just, it's just what, like, I think it's probably a little less prevalent. There's a little less eyes on them, one, but two, I think the practice is a little different as well. But, yeah, I think just in general sexual repression is a huge issue. It's a, what is like, a hundred billion porn is a hundred billion dollar industry. So to pretend like humans, like, I mean, think about like, as a. I released the music project, right? So I was happy the other day
Starting point is 01:15:01 when I saw one of my songs on Spotify went over 100,000 views, right? Or 100 listens or whatever, right? That's like a little milestone to celebrate, right? Like you go on Pornhub and there's like every single video is like 700,000 views, 3 million views. And it's just like all of them have like.
Starting point is 01:15:19 So it's like people are way more into porn than we like to believe. It is a huge business. and sex in general is just a taboo topic that shouldn't be because the less we otherize it, the more we can just start to come to grips with the fact that we just be fucking, everybody's fucking everybody.
Starting point is 01:15:36 I'm looking for the start right now, but I remember hearing in a class in college that Facebook, Netflix, and Pornhub account for half of the traffic at any given time on the internet. Like half the people who are on the internet are on one of those three sites at any given time. We'll go back. Facebook, where?
Starting point is 01:15:55 Facebook, Netflix, and Fordhub. Jesus Christ. So going back to the monks, turns out a lot of the, so the monks would brew a lot of beer, and that was one of the things they did. And they used to brew beer specifically with super hoppy tastes
Starting point is 01:16:14 to suppress the younger monks's libido and sex drive. So that's where the take IPAs give you tits. there's like historical presence that's your take no it's on the internet it's on the internet 50 on the web I'm sorry I did not realize
Starting point is 01:16:36 the monks would notice that the monks who would go out and harvest the hops would start developing estrogenic features such as tits wouldn't that make them hornier towards the monks that just got a nice rack no because the monks who got the rack would be just basically like chemically castrated
Starting point is 01:16:53 Can you just do a quick, just a cursory Google search to see if the story about IPA is being developed to make monks less horny is remotely true? It might be. And I'll be the first to admit if Billy's right on this. No, they did this. It's setting off my Billy alarm a little bit. Because they would have all these dudes who got sent to the monasteries as young men and they were all just horned up. So the monks were like, we got to like make super hoppy beers with the phytoestrogens. to make them all, like, chill out.
Starting point is 01:17:25 So it was the ultimate bros before hose. It was bros before hose potion. It's like, we just got to make some beer and just chill. Yeah, and that's why a lot of breastfeeding mothers drink super hoppy beers. Is that true to? Yes. You're not. I don't know if that's, I don't think you're supposed to breastfeed while you're drinking.
Starting point is 01:17:45 The best beers for breastfeeding moms. I have not heard that, but it's a thing. Yeah, you're supposed to, like, limit your alcohol consumption while you're pump you can pump and dump you can yeah you can yeah but you're that'll make your child drunk no it's there's like i so all right if you're listening to this podcast and you're a new mother you're breastfeeding don't take billy's advice for breastfeeding it's i know you might want dark beers to boost i drank dark beer for a week to boost my milk supply okay so it's you're reading a mommy blog increases prolactin which causes wait yeah what's i i'm not a beer person
Starting point is 01:18:23 What's the connection between hops and your libido? It's like hops are what they put in the beer to make it taste. But like it's really bad for men. Why? Because it gives them zero libido and like testosterone. So if you're like a like big IPA guy, you have like no sex drive? Basically. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:18:46 That is a hundred percent. It's definitely not true. But that's what he's trying to say. Girls, girls, if your boyfriend drinks IPAs. you should leave your body just the first fucking thing I Google what we've reported in the past
Starting point is 01:19:01 that the best alcohol for sex is red wine but we've now discovered there might be a different boozy beverage that's ideal for arousable beer specifically beer with hops hops contained estrogen called photo estrow for women huh for women
Starting point is 01:19:15 that's for women yeah I okay I think as long as you're not drinking IPAs as your only liquid intake your sex drive's probably going to be just fine. I don't think having like one Sierra Nevada is going to be like, well, can't get it up anymore.
Starting point is 01:19:30 Sorry. No fucking. You shouldn't be drinking IPAs anyways. Yeah. Yeah, for other reasons. Yeah. They're just not, they don't taste that good.
Starting point is 01:19:39 Oh, where's the article? I made a source on this. I found the article you talk about, but the source is looking real spotty, man. Find me like a, what's the source? A peer review article.
Starting point is 01:19:48 The source, so the article was vinepair.com was where they were talking about. the the women getting increased estrogen from the hops and then it says according to renegade health would you go to that link and click it it's
Starting point is 01:20:07 literally renegadehealth.com by Frederick Patnude and it's there's no there's no research behind this and that page is not even there so like their reference isn't there I'm interested I would love to hear you out
Starting point is 01:20:23 but I I it's just there's but the thing is there's a lot of phenoestrogens in hops which are said
Starting point is 01:20:31 to bring more estrogen into your body because it mimics I'm saying I'm saying that it's not that I don't believe you right
Starting point is 01:20:38 I'm just if you could find me a legitimate source it would allow me to have a more valid opinion on this I did not know we would start
Starting point is 01:20:46 talking about monks and you're right so I when you get a chance when you get a chance just let me just let me know, because I'm interested.
Starting point is 01:20:55 It would be, it would be interesting. Because from what I know, like beer, like, it, what if I forget the, the herbs to help reduce libido. Okay, so this is the independent. We're all familiar with the idea of beer bellies, but your love of a cold one with the lads, maybe could be affecting your body in another way. India pale ales, it turns out, can contribute to a man developing man boobs or gyneocast gynachomastia, are officially known.
Starting point is 01:21:25 So wait, what source was this? It was the independent. Please, I got to register to continue reading. Just look up to bodybuilding.com forums. Okay, it's testosterone nation.
Starting point is 01:21:38 It's testosterone nation.com. Testosteroneation.com, all right. And it had a whole article on this. Okay, a whole article. I think there's probably some of the fact where if you drink too many IPAs, you're probably going to put on some fatty deposits. Some of them might happen to be located around your tits.
Starting point is 01:21:58 I think there's probably some truth to that. But I don't think that like drinking IPA is going to make you sterile. No, but that's how they used to like keep the monks from stop fucking each other. By getting them too drunk to fuck. Yeah. That's the Kennedy motto too. They just give them all ED. Sorry about that excursion and I couldn't find any proper information on it.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Okay. Anyways, back to Stutes. back to prostitutes they keep referring to it as when you hear people talk about prostitutes they refer to illicit sex the illicit sex trade is there such thing as
Starting point is 01:22:33 licit like licit sex doesn't the word elicit imply that there is a counter to that? Licit is a word licit is a word the definition
Starting point is 01:22:49 is not forbidden or lawful There we go. Lawful sex, licit sex. Well, isn't that, but that. Yeah, they're lawful. Yeah, illicit is like not legal. Well, isn't illicit sex just like? Regular sex. Regular sex.
Starting point is 01:23:04 Consensual sex? Consensual, regular sex between two adults of age. And I was going back through the history of the stoots. And one of the more interesting things that I read was what was on the walls in certain buildings in Pompeii have you guys seen any of that stuff oh yeah so pompey the ancient roman city that was destroyed by mount vesuvius right billy yep yep uh they had they like to have a good time in pompe they uh they were gentlemen of leisure in that town in pompey stays in pompe exactly yes it was the vagus of of italy and uh there were a lot
Starting point is 01:23:45 of bathhouses in pompe and on the walls of these bathhouses because they had to deal with travelers that were coming in from other cities, other towns, maybe other nation states, what have you. They might not all speak the same language. So on the walls of different rooms in the bathhouse, they just had murals painted of what they could get in that room. So there is one mural where it was just like girl on top. There was one mural that was guy on top. There was one mural that was a guy behind a girl on all fours. And then another guy behind the guy who was behind the girl on all fours. There was one where it was just a guy
Starting point is 01:24:24 going down on a girl, which I guess is something you could pay for. I can't think of a bigger waste of money. How do you know who was paying for who? That's a good point, Bill. Yeah. That's a good point. The doctor was a woman.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Well, I, if, no, it turns out the prostitute was a man. You sexist fuck. Well, if you look at the picture that I looked at, the woman is very attractive and the guy is like some tiny little mangy looking dude. That's probably what she likes.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Yeah. I mean, it's not that far offense, though, when you think about it. I mean, literally, because the pandemic is when Onlyfans really popped off, right? And I was mad confused as to why dudes were subscribing to females posting picks. I'm like, fam, porn is free online, right? So it's like, dudes, it's, I would consider it something like that. It's like a very sent move to pay a woman to perform convalingus on her. Do you guys consider only fans cheating if you have a significant other?
Starting point is 01:25:29 Hell yeah. I haven't really, I haven't given it that much thought. But yeah, probably. Like different than just watching porn? It's very different. Or doing it. Giving someone money. Consuming.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Good question, really. Like you are actively paying. So if you, so you're saying. If you're paying the subscription for a Bella Danger or, you know, Lana Rosa, whoever's on OnlyFans, if you're paying $15 a month to specifically consume their content on OnlyFans. Couple things. I think. Oh, yeah, yeah. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:26:03 Go ahead. You first. And I was going to see if it's a, if it's a bona fide star, if it's like a Bella Danger, I feel like that's a little bit different. If it's like a girl that lives in an apartment complex. In Wichita, Kansas. In Wichita, Kansas. she's got you know five followers that to me feels like it's cheating because there is that like the paywall is what i didn't know i was going to be like the defending the only fans guy but
Starting point is 01:26:30 this is ridiculous let's go big t this is insane you're giving if you watch porn on porn up you're giving somebody money through ad the ads not consuming but it's not the same you're cutting out the middle man no this is this is the this is the thing this is the libertarian take of the only fan this is this is the thing, though. When you, when, when, when it's personalized, right, this is what I would consider it. If it's personalized and you get to, like, have requests, like, and you start requesting. And there's interaction. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, you can. So, so if it starts being like a personal relationship thing, then yeah. Because then it's like, it's like, it's a fetus, fettit, Billy, how you say fetidization? How would you do that? Fetization. There you go.
Starting point is 01:27:11 We'll do it. We'll go with that one. Because it's, it's that, but then it is like, it's interpersonal. And so to me, that is, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not against you getting your rocks off because, you know, just viewing porn or whatever. That's what it's, but when it starts to become an exchange of words and I did, then it's like, it's personal. Yeah. If you're saying like, if you're, if you're sending messages like, wow, I really like. But I don't think most people do that. Glennie Balls does. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:27:39 I don't know enough about it. There's balls out there. There's balls in the office. I was saying I was going to try to get them. Let me, let me text balls real quick. balls is him and um mints are on their way to Miami Florida for a hooters for a hooters for a hooters
Starting point is 01:27:54 convention for a hooters event okay hooters convention I think so I read an article many only fans models are part of agencies that outsource all of their like sexy talk and like
Starting point is 01:28:10 they get they produce certain videos to be like put in categories So if you request something, it's already in the library because I was reading about the business of it. But that's not on. So it's not technically personalized. It's definitely sex work. But you're, no, I'm not questioning on the sex work.
Starting point is 01:28:30 I'm questioning like if if your girl and your boyfriend is paying $9.95 a month to watch some rando girl and only fans. So not a Bella Danger or whoever. Like they're specifically paying for one person. Yeah. Content. Yeah. Whether it be stockpiled or like not personalized, they're paying, they're giving that content. It would be cheating if they pay for a positive to. This may be controversial.
Starting point is 01:29:02 Can you separate the art for the artist? This may be controversial. I don't have a full-time job so I can watch porn like poor people. Okay. I love only fans. It's great. I want to be paid for my work. I hope other people get paid for their work as well.
Starting point is 01:29:15 if that lock me up then you know yeah i i kind of agree with big t's talking me into it i don't i don't consume only fans i don't have a problem if anybody does i i do see the jealousy factor coming in if you're in a committed relationship and it's somebody who like doesn't have a big following and you're going back and forth you know complimenting like a video or something they're deeming you back that becomes like it becomes a personal relationship at some point sure is a personal relationship based on sex and based on money, but it's still, it feels like it's, it very much depends on your individual relationship with your significant other at that time and whether or not they're comfortable with that.
Starting point is 01:29:59 Agree. I mean, everybody has like relationship boundaries that you have to set. But this is why I've seen Folly and Big T's argument with his logic, right? If, if you don't consider that cheat, right, an interpersonal only fan's relationship, if a woman doesn't see a man if say you got a shorty big t as she she she doesn't meet him she doesn't she doesn't talk to him other than text and she just dumps herself to him emotionally all the time says how she feels is that cheating big t um no also i've never i've never sent a message on only fans i think that's keep the main keep the main thing the main thing as long as you're
Starting point is 01:30:41 logically consistent in saying a woman So if you're saying like if your girlfriend had a friend who was a dude that like she just told all of her problems to and shit and that was it? Yeah, even about you and and her emotional desires and things that she wanted and needed and
Starting point is 01:30:56 exclusively to that person or like she told you these things also. But then like if she let's say she told you these things also. Yeah, I don't think that's that's bad. Here's a question though. What? That's interesting. Are only fans?
Starting point is 01:31:13 At least you're consistent, though. Our only fan model, only fans models allowed to have, are they cheating? That's her job. Also, if you're doing it behind, like, your significant others back and they don't know about it. It's more lying, yeah. But also, I have never hand up, I've never been on OnlyFans, but aren't most, most of it isn't like porn where it's like sex, it's like pictures more. There's a lot of content creators on OnlyFans. fans as a former only fans content creator.
Starting point is 01:31:45 So like, like, I, I, if like you're taking a picture, I don't think that's cheating. No, I don't think that if you're, I also don't think if you're a porn star and you're, you're making porn, I don't think that's cheating. It's like, it's like an act, it's two actors. If you're open with it. And it manifests a great point, though, because I looked up in, in preference to the show, trying to understand the difference between porn and prostitution and why there is a legal difference. And the one thing that they argued was exactly that, Maddie, was they said that and it's it, that it falls under the First Amendment, right, of a free expression and that when you're doing porn and it's film, you're acting it out.
Starting point is 01:32:22 So it's a form of artistic expression. And that's where they differentiate prostitution versus pornography. Yeah, it's like when two movie stars have sex or fake have sex. But like, they're not. Obviously, they're gray and they're stretching the truth. But to answer your question, I think it has everything to do with the. the honesty in which you laid out with your partner. If you're saying, if you're saying, look, this is what I do, this is what I love to do,
Starting point is 01:32:47 and this is how I'll get my work, and you're honest with that person and that person's okay with it, then that's, that's, that's all good way. But if you're lying about it, yeah, you cheat. You have to have a very understanding partner if you subscribe to like multiple only fans and you're interactive with those girls and the only fans. Right. You have to have a very understanding partner. And I can see very quickly how you would minimize.
Starting point is 01:33:10 what you use only fans for, and then you, you know, you're obviously interacting a lot more than you've told your significant other that you're going to be doing. And then that leads to, okay, well, now I'm lying. And then it becomes like some of that you have to keep from your partner at that point. I could see getting into some issues unless you're very, very clear and everyone's very understanding of each other right up front. Also, there is the element of if, like, if you, sometimes guys have like addiction problems with that stuff so like if you're like living with a boyfriend and he's like consuming vast amounts of only fans and pornography like that's that's like not like he needs help right it's like if he was addicted to drug yeah there is there is like pornography addiction
Starting point is 01:34:00 what about if you're an only fans model do you get jealous of your customers who are subscribed to other people's only fans that's one of the things you can't hit the player you gotta hate the game do you hate people who listen to other podcasts I do
Starting point is 01:34:15 well what if it is actually very much how predatory would it be if there was like only fan models that are like you only subscribe to me
Starting point is 01:34:24 right like to use like emotional like manipulation with some of their people just to get them to keep oh beautiful
Starting point is 01:34:31 I brought in the secret weapon all right so Ari this is our co-worker Glennie balls he has he has a few subscriptions on only only fans hey glennie hi glennie how you doing fellas we're good we're good we got um we got the whole crew here glennie and we're talking about only fans and uh big t's been defending the right of people to to subscribe to only fans in a relationship we're we're kind of like trying to figure out how that works do you think that
Starting point is 01:35:02 only fans your subscriptions would be considered cheating if you were in a committed relationship with somebody no that's a stupidest i've ever heard in my life thank you buddy okay but what what what if it's like a girl that only has a couple of subscribers and you feel like it's that personal connection does that ever even come into play at all i mean i as long as you don't know the person i think it's fair because i get i do get that full front because let's say it's an Instagram model that you always liked, and then you started following her only fans. I can maybe see someone getting mad at that, but I still think it's stupid. But unless you know the person, I really don't think it's crazy.
Starting point is 01:35:42 Because, I mean, it's very realistic that you could know an only fan's model. And if you did, I would be kind of mad if I was a girlfriend and I knew you were subscribing to the one that you know. But if you don't know it, I don't think that's stupid. Okay, what if your girlfriend's an only fan's model? I would love for that to happen. I'm so much. But even, even.
Starting point is 01:36:01 I would love for that to be arranged. At that point, we have no problem. But in she's messaging multiple people distributing her artwork. I mean, you're talking to a guy that literally responded to DMs for Osses like here like, I don't give a fuck about that shit. I know they don't actually care.
Starting point is 01:36:19 None of the only fans girls that subscribe to the ones of the DMs. I'm not like, when they're like, oh, baby, like, what are you doing? I don't respond to that. It's just a mass text to everybody. It's not real. Okay. Okay. Take.
Starting point is 01:36:30 Yeah. So, all right, I mean, I understand what Glennie's saying. I think he's actually correct. I think if it's somebody that you know in real life who's also an only fan, that can be an issue. Yeah, I mean, but sorry, I was about to say, like, I know, I know girls that have only fans that have an only fans matches. Like, it's so fake. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:36:51 All right. Good talk, Glenn. How, do you consider a prostitution? Cheating. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if you fuck a prostitute, I think that.
Starting point is 01:37:00 That's very fair cheating. Okay. All right. Good talk, Glenn. Have fun at the Hooters Convention. Yeah, have fun with Hooters. Enjoy yourself. Bye back.
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Starting point is 01:38:21 and talk about it okay there's a phantom only fans model we'll get we'll get glennie on here to to discuss that for sure uh i also looked up prostitution in the bible have you guys have you guys done your research on prostitution in the bible oh yeah you all know you know about rhab it's a big one what's that big t said you know about rehab who's that oh so she uh the israelites were attacking jericho and she lived she was a prostitute in the within the walls of jericho and the israelites sent two spies in to her house and she hid them and when people came looking for him. She hit them on her roof, I think, like under, somehow hit them. And, uh, and they spared her home when they destroyed Jericho because she helped them. Oh, wow. So she was a prostitute turned like
Starting point is 01:39:08 hero. Trader. Kind of. Yeah, wait, was she good or bad? I need to know. Well, she was, she was good for the Israelites, not good for for the Jericho. For the, I guess they'd be Canaanites. Canaanites? Who is the, who was a good guy who's a bad guy? Israeli is good. Okay, so she was a good guy. Chris Jericho, Walls of Jericho. Sick finishing move. Insane finishing move. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:32 So the Bible, it kind of goes back and forth between how it views prostitutes because I do know that I think it was in, I think it's in Deuteronomy. It says, if a priest's daughter becomes a prostitute, you should burn her at the stake. And then that was old school God. That was before you accepted the terms and conditions. And then there's other examples. right, Mary Magdalene in the Bible. We know about Mary Magdalene because all I know
Starting point is 01:39:59 is what I've read on the back jacket of a Dan Brown novel. Yeah, I was, you can get into a lot of weird, wacky conspiracies about Mary Magdalene, but she was, uh, she was a good, she was a cool kid. She was, she was, she was, she was boo-thing.
Starting point is 01:40:14 No, no, that's not true. You've been reading too much Da Vinci code. Jesus loved her for who she was and not for what she did. And that's how we should love everybody. Could, could you make the argument though that like mary magdalen had an emotional relationship with jesus no matter what i think we're getting was jesus cheating on all of mankind emotionally okay with mary magdalen okay no she was telling him
Starting point is 01:40:40 all of her hopes and dreams and goals and ambitions and emotions and she wasn't sharing with anybody else i get jealous when i hear that mary magdalen had that type of relationship with j c i think there were several people who were very close with Jesus, who weren't necessarily involved. No, stop that. We're not involved in any sort of nefarious manner. So honestly, though, when it comes to Mary Magdalene, can you give me like Mary Magdalene for dummies because I really don't know that much about her? Well, so she was considered an apostle. She was there. She witnessed the crucifixion, and she was one of the women who went and discovered that Jesus was no longer in the tomb. but she
Starting point is 01:41:25 Yes that is how the story goes So she would have been an only fan model Okay no So she would have if Jesus would say she would have been an only fan's model No Jesus would have subscribed So maybe so Jesus may have not been involved with her But just a subscriber
Starting point is 01:41:44 Y'all enable him So much Like it's fact that she was a prostitute correct it'd have been like that well that actually kind of but you don't never really use like that that actually kind of came about later like there's some interesting um coley is that what you were talking about like we don't know well yeah i was saying it's it's not like i think that's one of the popular uh leading theories but i mean there's other theories that she was like in a relationship like with jesus like there was it's not i don't know that the bible explicitly says she was a prostitute
Starting point is 01:42:22 Right. Exactly. It's just more like what is somewhat known about her was like she was not necessarily wealthy, but she had her own money, which I mean, back then women, like women couldn't like work until like this most recent century. So I don't know how else she would have been making money onto herself. So that's kind of where people are like she was selling herself. And it's kind of speaks to like who we make Jesus up to be the characteristics. we put on to him like he he wasn't a there's a there's so much negativity with prostitutes as we talked about that it makes sense that we would have jesus juxtaposed to a person like that to speak to his moral character that he didn't care what line of work you were in mm-hmm i like that cool good analysis wasn't mary magdalen also wasn't she the one big t that um when he was getting um what was What did she look like? She was the one that put the towel on Jesus' face that has the proof that he existed.
Starting point is 01:43:29 The shroud of turn? Is that what it was called? I don't know. I know you thought that the shroud of turn was Jesus' due rag last week. Yes, I did. It is kind of funny. Jesus had two women in his life. One was very famously known as the Virgin Mary, and then the other one was just Mary.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Yeah. Like, no, no. The other Mary was fucking. Imagine them being introduced at the same time. somebody. This is pure Mary. This is clandestine of pure virgin Mary and that's
Starting point is 01:43:58 if you want to have fun, that's Mary. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm looking at portraits of Mary Magdalon and she's a saint. She's literally a saint. But it's tough to say exactly what she looked like because these
Starting point is 01:44:13 all the old paintings or they just look like cartoons. They were definitely not like there were no gingers. They were not gingers. There was not gingers. Mary. Also, it would be like classic, just, uh, human nature. Go after a woman that reminds you of your mom, like Mary, Mary's. Freud. Freud was right. Freud. Yeah, Freudian. Kill your father. Mary your mother. That's why it was. Yeah. All right. So I'm, that's a juicy. That's a juicy
Starting point is 01:44:43 conspiracy though. We should probably do something on that is, is the whole conspiracy that Mary Magdalene and Jesus have kids together. Oh yeah, and like the whole like DaVinci. It's fun to play with. It's fun to play with. So who were their kids allegedly?
Starting point is 01:44:58 We can dip into it more later. JFK for sure. JFK Jr. There was no JFK. It's just Jesus. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:45:14 I haven't done enough research into it. It's just like little me skimming over it now. Okay, cool, cool. We will, we will check in. into it so oh she was Mary had a child
Starting point is 01:45:23 she was the person that that bathed Jesus' feet oh yeah Jesus was a foot guy very much could have had an only fans yeah he was like Billy feetball Jesus Jesus was a dominatrix
Starting point is 01:45:41 is the past that we're heading down right now I like it chains and whips and shit yeah he did like to I mean we've those those mechanisms do look very cross-like the crown of thorns was really just a gimp mask yeah all right now we're getting really sacrilegious it's a big teeth bit no no different than usual
Starting point is 01:46:03 did you know I mean the wolf of Wall Street scene where they put the candle in his ass very akin to hell did you know that that prostitute prostitution is banned in Islam it's but it's Haram but temporary marriage is allowed. Okay, so what's the difference? Can you walk me through that?
Starting point is 01:46:24 So like they made, in certain sex of Islam in some countries, they made allowances like for stuff like usury and giving loans. They just like make it so it's not usually. And it's like you're paying rent on money. I don't know. There's some way they skew it so that it's legal to give out loans, much the same way they allowed for temporary marriage. marriages so you could have sex with other people and just like have these little temporary
Starting point is 01:46:55 marriages it's a hall pass you get a hall pass from yeah from the lord i'll find out the specifics i never understood people that are like oh you're on my list like i've got i've got my list of five people that i'm allowed to have sex with outside of marriage that never works right justin beeper never never in the history of the world has that if you actually have sex with somebody that's on your hall pass list you back to your significant other And you're like, hey, guess what? Checked one of them off. Like, what if your hall pass list is like, it's a woman and her husband that live in suburban Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:47:28 And she's like, you know, I'm thinking about just adding Kyle from next door to the whole page. I saw Mowing the lawn earlier shirtless and he's number three on the list. No one has ever actually come back from fulfilling a list and then have their have their wife or husband be like, okay, great. Yep, no problem. High five. Muta is legalized prostitution, which has been sanctioned by the 12er Shia authorities. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:59 So progressive. Yeah. She quotes the Oxford Encyclopedia of modern Islamic world to differentiate between marriage, Nikha, N-I-A-H, and Muta. Wait, Billy, what was that second one? And Muta and states that well. Bill, you want to say that second one out loud? N-I-K-A-H. Okay.
Starting point is 01:48:23 And that while N-I-K-A-H is for procreation, M-U-T-Poschri-A-H is just for sexual gratification. Okay. So then it's disputed whether it's actually real. But it was, like, there was sex that would do that. Okay. I think we're all in agreement in this room, surprisingly, all in agreement. that prostitution should be legalized in a certain way or decriminalized. Big T. Would you agree with that? I want the government involved in as little as possible. So I think if two consenting
Starting point is 01:48:57 adults want to have sex with each other and get paid for it, I don't care. Rhode Island had legal indoor prostitution up until really recently. Very recently. Yeah. Indoor, like a water park. It's like, what the hell is wronged? I think what happened, like whoever wrote the laws the first time around left like a very I mean, Rhode Island is not the most law-abiding state that we have in the 50. So I think whoever wrote that law, what, you're offended? I talk about Rhode Island. Did we also figure out the thing about incest with Rhode Island? Yes.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Yes, we did. Rhode Island is honestly like a wild place. Yeah, Rhode Island's a wild time. It's very well, like, they don't ID in Rhode Island. Like, you can get away with whatever you want. It's maritime law. Yeah. It was a whole, like, sea.
Starting point is 01:49:45 faring bunch there so wait wait please explain the whole outdoor prostitution thing to me so like streetwalkers are illegal like you can't solicit prostitution on a street corner but you could they but um you could go into a brothel yeah i'm pretty sure whatever happened was whoever was writing the lot like uh high class prostitution where it was like always being done in hotels was what they were trying to keep in the loophole so that that like no congressman or anything could get caught up technically breaking the law they they outlawed in 2009 didn't the Patriots mascot get wrapped up that I can't I don't know I genuinely don't know yeah the guy very funny though no yeah Patriots mascot got caught up like wearing was he wearing pat the Patriot uniform
Starting point is 01:50:38 no he got a New England Patriots mascot nabbed and prostitution Sting. And I remember that it was in Rhode Island. How did they know it was him? Like, when he was getting arrested, was he like, you know, by the way, I'm the New England Patriots mascot. You can't arrest him. Robert Sormonti of Warwick, Rhode Island was cuffed by state police who said they also nab 13 others in the sting. Yeah. So he was the mascot at the time. It was 2009. So it was probably right after it became illegal. Yeah. What do you think Kraft said to him afterwards like 2009 it happens this is what you're watching the top down in that
Starting point is 01:51:17 organization yeah culture starts yeah at the top big t you would kill to have grown up a patriots fan i know you're not talking uh i actually wouldn't because like it wouldn't be fun at this point no it is i promise big t would be sick of winning i see yeah no i've said i've said i've said forever i want each of the teams i like to win one championship i want them each to win once and that's it it wouldn't be my favorite teams the celtic they've only won one and it kills me it wouldn't be special after one in my lifetime like what did the Patriots six Super Bowl feel as good as the first one no uh yeah sure did
Starting point is 01:51:56 no no then you didn't you didn't you didn't you did you want to talk about the fifth that's different that was like an insane but it was the fifth like never going to happen again the falcons haven't the falcons I saw this stuff this morning The Falcons haven't had a 10-point comeback in the fourth quarter since 1993. And they've allowed, like, 12 in the last two years. Every team has had one since 2006. Like the Lions have done that more recently. The Browns have a shame.
Starting point is 01:52:28 It's a shame. Listen, it happens. Aaron, I got a question about the Texans of the Patriots. Were you on that team that wore those varsity letter jackets when you went up to New England? It was. Was that your idea? it was it was my idea to like yo we got to do so because like niggins used to make you wear soups and shit right and so it was it wasn't my idea for that it was i think it was Connor barwin's idea Connor barwin and Cody um what is his name oh i know you're talking about Cody the linebacker was not JJ no he was a D-line he was that now it was that was JJ that was J-J that was J-J's second year he was still new booty so he wasn't really like vocally like that uh-huh but um
Starting point is 01:53:10 So it was like kind of bomb and I forget that Cody, Cody Pope, Cody, fuck. I'm fucked up because I guess my dude. I'm shit with names. But anyway, it was a couple of them. And it was a great idea. Yeah, it had shit to do it while we got whoop, but it was a great idea. It was a fly. It was fly.
Starting point is 01:53:25 And that's a good little like, of course I made the news and shit, and that's the reason why we lost. Sean Cody. Sean Cody, man. Yeah. And so it's a, it was a dope, like little camaraderie thing. Like, you know what I'm saying? And that was shit, we went to the division around here, so it was cool, man. What did you do with the Letterman jacket?
Starting point is 01:53:45 Did you wear it back onto the plane on the way home? Or did you just leave it on the door? I did. I was fly. I had a nice little underneath. I had like this little, this dope little knit tie. Of course, I had the. I feel like most of the pictures were of you because of how that team was.
Starting point is 01:54:00 Like, it was your team in a lot of ways. Yeah, for sure. You know, I was one of the key players. Yeah, for sure. I feel like a lot of it fell on you. Letterman jacket. Yeah, I mean, it was fire, bro. I mean, I always said this, too, I didn't have a letterman's jacket in high school.
Starting point is 01:54:14 I just never got one. Like, I was, I was broken. It just wasn't on my radar to really brag about high school accomplishments like that. And so I never got on. So to have one was kind of fun. And we put, like, all our like pro-bow patches on the shit. It was dope, man. Actually, now I'm thinking about it.
Starting point is 01:54:28 We should have one for your pro career, absolutely. I'm looking at your picture right now. It's you getting off the plane. You've got a very, very smart pairs of glass. on real short hair and it says 23 rb in a patch on your right arm they are pretty cool that they get a bad rap because you guys got your ass kicked and what happened immediately after but uh what it is but if you had won that game i feel like letterman jackets for adults would have made a huge comeback 100% it was it was a great idea we just happened to get whooped is what it is
Starting point is 01:55:09 Great jacket, though. Matter of fact, I lost that shit, too. Damn, no, I'm thinking about that. That shit's in the, um, uh, there was a one of the many floods in Houston. Like, my shit got flooded all the way up. It was like five feet. And I lost like a whole bunch of shit. Damn.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Hmm. Yeah. Behind the scenes. Behind the scenes. I'm looking at the picture of JJ Watt wearing the letterman jacket. If you guys win that game, that's probably like a tradition that's, it's still going with the Texans. The Lederman Jacket?
Starting point is 01:55:43 Probably, yeah. You said it is? If, if you guys. Oh, yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we ain't really had no postseason success like that. So, like, that was a big Patriots team. And that would have been, they lost an AFC championship day, I believe.
Starting point is 01:56:00 I think so. I think we lost the Broncos, right? Oh, Baltimore. Oh, Baltimore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was Baltimore thing, yeah. Yeah. That would have been fired, though.
Starting point is 01:56:08 That was a good little. That was a good. little run we had, man. Did you watch any of the game yesterday? Nah, I was traveling. I was in, I was in some Michigan like yesterday. Browns won. Browns won.
Starting point is 01:56:21 David Cully, the coach of the Texans, he accepted, wait, it was third down. I want to say it was like third down and 15. It was third and 15. Third and 15. There was a penalty after they gained 12 yards. Yeah, it would have been fourth and two. It would have been fourth and two. So they gained 13 yards on third down, but there was a penalty on the field.
Starting point is 01:56:45 The penalty on the field, they could have either accepted the penalty and replayed the down. It was defensive holding. It would have been third and ten. It would have been third and ten. Or they could decline, and it would be fourth and two. The Texans decided to decline the penalty, so it's fourth and two, and then punted the ball away. Whereas they could have accepted the penalty, it would have been. third down they could have tried to get a first down but instead the head coach was like no you
Starting point is 01:57:14 know what um let's just punt bad bad things are going to happen if we have the ball in her hands for too long was he playing the field position game well i was davis mills in the game at this point davis mills might have been the quarterback at this point yeah i agree with his decision to punt he still could have punt it though you still could have punt it on third down yeah for sure i mean did you see the sap grant elpit laid on him like definitely get the ball out of that guy's hands sooner the best. You could hand it off and just hope something good happens. Yeah. The old third and 10 drop. Yeah. As a Browns fan, that's something that would happen to us. Like, that would be like an incompetent coach decision. So the fact that that happened at a game, a Browns game, but the
Starting point is 01:57:54 Browns weren't the ones that decided that. Worms my heart. But David Cully, he's a, he's a new guy coaching the team. He's been around the game for a long time, but it's his first year as a as a head coach. And he apologized today. He came out and said, yeah, you know, I kind of got turned around a little bit on that i mean to we're talking about the texans and the the the uh overratching theme of this episode they might be in a different position if prostitution were legalized that's that's very true it's very true coley um to sean watson he is uh is he actually going to play like it can't imagine i can you imagine if he goes to miami right now if miami dolphin said we're going to give you three first round picks get to sean watson
Starting point is 01:58:37 and then they put them out on the field to play like next weekend that's not going to feel right to me it's like dude you're under investigation the FBI is investigating you right now for like 25 counts of sex trafficking and sexual assault why is the FBI about uh I think it might be a civil right let me see hang on is he still technically on the Texans roster yeah he's in the reason what I heard people was the reason the NFL hasn't put him on the commissioner's exemption list is because the Texans
Starting point is 01:59:16 have him on, I believe it's paid leave. But if he were to be traded to the dolphins, then the NFL would have to make a decision one way or the other. And if there's anything we know about the NFL, they would make the right decision. They'll do the right thing. I think the FBI got involved because there was allegedly some sort of extortion claim that somebody was making and it became like a federal matter so that they're looking into it but on him they were trying to extort him maybe but it looks like the FBI is immersed themselves in this investigation so I don't know it would just feel it would feel really strange to me if he was out there on the field and there's all these allegations against him and why would you trade three first round
Starting point is 02:00:00 picks for a guy who has all these things like he could go to jail theoretically yeah i don't know you got to keep the receipt if you trade for us this is tough man it is tough because there's there's honestly like no good there's nothing good that's going to come out of this it's either going to be he's a world-class scumbag or it's going to be this is the most fucked up extortion scheme of all time to levy against a player because he was trying to get out of houston So either way, it's bad. But I guess I'm hoping it's the second one because at least then it means that nobody got sexually assaulted. Right.
Starting point is 02:00:41 Yeah. Then there would be like some devious-ass ownership moves. You got some people around own the team after that. If that comes up to be true. Yeah, true. But also like, was it 22 women now? Yeah. No, see, this is why I always tell people that ask me, like, because I mean, I'm not associated with buddy.
Starting point is 02:01:00 Like, I don't know them like that. Like, I'm not, I'm not saying it's guilty either. All I know is this. That's what I tell people. Like, I was in the league eight years and I was running back. And I think in my time, he used to maybe have four massage therapists. And, like, once you find one, like, you stick with one. In my experience, like, that's my experience.
Starting point is 02:01:19 He had, like, 22 when he's like year three or something like that. I don't know. In my experience, that's a little awkward. Like, I don't know why that would be the case. I just know for me it was very convenient that once I found one we got into a routine
Starting point is 02:01:34 I know they they know what I needed I know what they provided and it was just that was the synergy that was there and that's yeah I was very professional
Starting point is 02:01:43 I never did anything like that so I don't understand the need for 22 plus I just don't I would have to hear them out like I just don't understand that From early stages of this, it sounded like they were almost like pawning him off on other physical therapists.
Starting point is 02:02:05 So even if he wasn't doing anything like wildly untoward, he was doing something that was making them even legally uncomfortable. Oh, so they was passing him off. So it's that because like one of the first people would come out was like, yeah, he was referred to me by another therapist. And it's like, well, if he's a big fucking creep, why would you? refer why would you throw that on someone else unless you're just trying to get rid of him for you if there's anything to learn about the michael jackson research that i did is that um
Starting point is 02:02:39 i don't know shit about the details of this case so like i just don't have an opinion on it i just give you my perspective from what i've seen in the in the in the league and like you draw your own conclusions i don't have a concern i don't know if you're guilty i don't know if it's innocent and it's really none of my business um but yeah i just i just wish him well and and i wish every everybody else involved who was possibly a victim or I wish everybody well because this shit is a that's so it's so it's so high publicized highly publicized that it's just like it's nothing but messy it's just going to be messy for everybody involved so I don't know man that's crazy bill you look like you guys some under your mind yeah that's a really screwed up situation
Starting point is 02:03:21 you never know so like there's a rumor that like a lot of massage parlors really act as like happy ending places and I mean that's true we yeah so you know would you ever go to one billy no but I'll tell you when I was training for my fight against Jose Canseco I was getting seriously fucked up in training and my neck was getting like hit back and the thing was I like you know it was in the middle of quarantine like I'm I'm not, I don't have the means to go find a massage therapist, but my neck was fucked. So I went to one of these places and got a massage, but now coming out that like, are these, is that what they're supposed to be for?
Starting point is 02:04:11 And then I never went back. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like you know when you're going into a massage parlor that's one of those kinds of massage parlors. You know, I don't think it's like, it's not a real big mystery. Yeah, try to stick with the chains if you're trying to avoid something like that. Go to the NBs or the, you know, stuff like that.
Starting point is 02:04:35 It was like the spas. It was like a nail place too. So it's not like it was like there's people in there. But so I also, I was in Amsterdam a couple years ago and went to the Red Light District. Just check it out. See what it was all about because you hear about it growing up. That place kind of sucks. Red Lake District is very overrated
Starting point is 02:05:00 because it felt to me like it was almost sex Disneyland you were just walking down the street and it's mostly tourists that are walking by and so it's very crowded they've got all the storefronts and it's every window has a girl that's standing in the storefront or either that or she's got the blinds pulled down which means that she has a customer in there
Starting point is 02:05:22 but it's just dozens and dozens of women standing in the window trying to get guys to come inside now you hear that back in the day in like the 90s and the 80s the girls would be like in the window dancing and like making come hither motions to all the guys that are walking by today they're just sitting down and they're just on their phones they're just like scrolling instagram it's the least sexy place that I've ever been I think they're sure they're wearing like bikini tops but it's just like a girl sitting on a stool looking at her phone refreshing Instagram and like waiting looking bored as like hell waiting for a guy to like come up knock on the door and hand her like 50 bucks then they go
Starting point is 02:05:59 in the back room and he comes out maybe that they actually might use the internet to get most their customers that's what i assume that they're doing is like i don't know maybe checking their dms or whatever but um it's not it's not like you it's not like i thought it was going to be going there where it was going to be like racy and like kind of like las Vegas like a little bit shady a little bit sketchy. It was just, it was like Disneyland of sex with zero nudity.
Starting point is 02:06:26 And it didn't really feel that cool of a place. I kind of felt like bad being there. It's going to be hell awkward. Very awkward, yeah. It's mostly just a bunch of, it's not even bachelor parties cruising through there.
Starting point is 02:06:40 It's like dudes that are in their mid-forties, mid-fifties on like a boys weekend away from the wives. And they're just like two hammered walking down the streets of Amsterdam. They're like, let's go. It's got added red light, just snag us a couple of hens, huh? You know, it's just, it's fucking weird. It's like a weird, grimy place.
Starting point is 02:06:57 I was not a big fan of it. Like, a little creepy. Like, I feel like that's the biggest demographic is married dudes or older dudes in-sale-type cats who can't get, or just sick of a wife or whatever case would be. And it just gets real creepy after a while. Like, it's not. Yeah. Old married dudes. They're the worst.
Starting point is 02:07:18 They really are. Insel, dude, in cell domes, one of the scariest shit ever about, like, the terrorism and shit. They've got their whole lingo that they have. Inseldoms? I'm not hit, man. Insel, like, the whole cultures, because they all, they found, a lot of them find each other online and, like, create a community. And then they, like, do bad things because they're very angry at the world. So, like, there's, like, a bunch of.
Starting point is 02:07:49 sexually repressed horny dudes that blame other people because they're sexually repressed. They blame women most of the time. They like shoot up sororities. Yeah. It's like Jesus. Yeah. I'd say guys who are they've convinced themselves that
Starting point is 02:08:03 they're never going to find happiness or never going to find anybody that will love them. And so instead of trying to figure out what it is that's preventing them from getting in these sorts of relationships and having that sort of fulfillment, they just decide to like completely shut down and say, fuck it.
Starting point is 02:08:19 it's never going to happen for me so i might as well take out vengeance against like all my enemies and to those type of people get help like re like you got to reach out to because what happens is everyone demonizes them so much that it just pushes them farther and farther away in the internet and they start going crazy and crazier people demonize in sales yeah because they're like you know like they uh since because they their ideology is like so terrible terrible and misogynistic and everything but because of that none of them end up getting help and they all just keep on going they retreat they retreat darker into the eight chan then they're like at 64 chan and they're doing crazy shit basically they rather than um being like oh is this a
Starting point is 02:09:11 they look they don't look inward at themselves they blame it on women saying that oh like women always just want like you know their standards are so high and you know it's like nice guy finishes like yeah finishes last yeah it's like but but then if the nice guy doesn't finish then he kills you
Starting point is 02:09:31 yeah hold a little bit it's like a really so these things is mad because females have high standards yeah basically none of the they're involuntarily celibate like we the thing is like you can laugh at them but like everyone's been laughing at them like for their whole
Starting point is 02:09:48 lies so then they just start committing terrorism it's really bad like a lot of like domestic terrorists yeah are links back to like you're not gonna blame me for niggies is horny I was gonna say it sounds like Billy was excusing acts of no I'm not excusing them at these people
Starting point is 02:10:05 no the thing is like I'm trying to just show sympathy please don't kill me if you're listening because you're scared an insult's gonna I am not I am not I am not trying to show sympathy to motherfuckers who are horny and kill people because nobody want to fuck you bro fuck you
Starting point is 02:10:22 what do you mean what about this why don't we just legalized prostitution so yeah that's the that's the argument legalized prostitution because it would like stop the
Starting point is 02:10:33 in-sell them that's the last reason as to why I would legalize insules are scary as fuck they don't give a fuck you need a beat up shut up Billy across fucking about is it
Starting point is 02:10:45 beat upable well yeah They're beat up a ball, but they want to, like, they want to kill. Well, yeah, but here's, here's, if a nigger went off me, bro, if they want to kill me, because he can't get his dick wet, yo, I deserve to go. It is what it's going, like, I don't like, fuck. I'm not going to walk around eggshells because some nigga is horny. Like, I fuck, fuck you.
Starting point is 02:11:06 I'm not going to have no sympathy for no, no mass murderer, bro. Fuck you. What do you mean? To, to, to Billy's point, and I don't have any sympathy for these people, but to Billy's point, it is a little bit more insidious than no one wants to fuck me, so I'm going to kill everyone. Like, where a lot of these in cells end up, like, turning is they go online, and there are these snake oil salesmen who are lurking on all these fucking message boards like Billy was saying that are like, oh, I have these dating tips that are guaranteed to get women to like you, just
Starting point is 02:11:41 come listen to me. and then they slide in with these dating tips like white supremacy talking points and then eventually turn these dudes into full. Like, if you can get duped into becoming a white supremacist, like, yeah, I have no sympathy for you. That's where you and I agree. I mean, they sold it so well.
Starting point is 02:12:00 Yeah, it's like, well, when you put it that way, yeah, I mean, you do. Yeah, it's like everything's coming up to me here. Definitely sympathize with the fact of being an outcast and you feel like nobody around you can relate. I can relate to that. But where I draw the line is wanting to murder somebody because of that shit. Like, yeah, I'm not feeling like, I'm not going to cater to that.
Starting point is 02:12:22 Like, I'm sorry. I think one thing that also happens on a lot of the message boards is it's the people that are the snake oil salesman, like Coley said. But a lot of them aren't even active in the communities that they purport to be like that, yeah, they've got the white supremacy talking points or whatever. But a lot of them are just like die hard. internet trolls to the point where their souls are so vacant that they think that it's hilarious if they can trick somebody into becoming so despondent that they shoot up a school. Like to them, that's the ultimate laugh. And it's those same people that come up with a lot of the Q stuff, they make it up because
Starting point is 02:13:00 they want to see how far they can push people, like as a joke. And to them, it's just like, oh, holy shit, I can't believe we made this person like go out and we storm the capital yeah like they're like that that's epic i can't believe that we made those people do that for the lulls it's like they're they're they're pulling all the strings but they have no attachment whatsoever to the causes that they're injecting into other people's brains consequence yeah i sometimes like to think of myself as an internet anthropologist so i go like you know i can't be like you know uh like going out as an explorer
Starting point is 02:13:42 because I was born too late so I go out on the internet and I go explore different communities and see what makes them tick The Indiana Jones of Yeah Why can't you explore in the world? What's stopping you from?
Starting point is 02:13:54 Because I was born after the world He was born too late for He was outdoors He was born in the Matrix And that's now his playground Yeah but I have to like I can't take too many vacations There's a really bad vacation
Starting point is 02:14:07 Shut up there with So I can't like like go on an expedition somewhere, but I can browse on the internet for a couple hours and like figure out all these different internet communities and like what makes them tick. And the insoles are terrifying. They absolutely,
Starting point is 02:14:21 and also I grew up when like with a lot of school shootings. Like when like so I have a little more fear to that. Yeah, because you know because Billy's the ultimate Chad because Billy knows that. Yeah. No, he's the first one getting shot.
Starting point is 02:14:35 Yeah. Like through the door. Stop saying that. That's really fucking scary. They're going to be like where, Where's the 6'4 blonde dude That's the quarterback of the football team Fucking all my bitches
Starting point is 02:14:47 You are high value target Through the right lens Billy is like Hitler's drink Stop, stop They're gonna kill me The insoles have like decks of cards Like we used to have in Iraq For the most important targets that we were going after
Starting point is 02:15:01 Billy was the ace of spades For the in cells No seriously look at Like this is the guy that they hate They're like, Chad. You, you are the chat.
Starting point is 02:15:12 You're the good looking tall. No, he's not that good looking. Billy, you're a good looking too, man. No, dude, this is the,
Starting point is 02:15:20 this is, it's the scariest shit ever. Yeah. But yeah, Billy is quite literally like a sea lion that's swimming off the coast of South Africa. He's like, the most dangerous thing in the world is great white sharks.
Starting point is 02:15:35 It's like, yeah, dude, because you're, you're, your, They dream of a day where they can hunt you down. Billy's wearing, like, you probably had more letter jackets than Aryan Foster. I used to rock my letterman jacket all the time, but then you can't wear in college because it's douchey.
Starting point is 02:15:53 It is. Why are you thinking about a million? No, it's just a whole idea. Why would you wear your high school letterman jacket in college? It's cold out. also there was like there was a cool compartment in my leathering jacket
Starting point is 02:16:15 where you could like zip it up and you could just stash beers in there that is pretty sweet so like you could roll up into like like the library he's like a buddy on
Starting point is 02:16:27 varsity you roll to the library you go to the library with beers you live the real like varsity blues high school experience not really he fired that fucking pig skin
Starting point is 02:16:38 Yeah, really is the American dream. That's why everyone wants to kill him. All right. Anybody have anything else to say about Stoogian? We should cut all the in-sell talk because they're definitely listening. No, we're really going to fuck. Stop, stop blaming people because you undesirable, bro. Here, here's some date advice.
Starting point is 02:17:00 If you didn't sell, you listen, this is the data advice. This is, women love cleanliness. women love groomed men women love um like take care of your nails take care of your hygiene take care of your your apartment or wherever you live at make sure that's clean they love that kind of stuff they love for the most part in this i love fit men so eat well exercise well right but also they love they love too hard um they love uh humor they love a sense of humor and also you have get it in your head that not everyone is going like you're seven billion people on this planet not every woman is going to find you attractive.
Starting point is 02:17:37 Like, just get that through your head. I am what they would call, like, I'm a fairly good-looking dude. I'm financially wealthy. I still have no ego in the fact that, like, if I approach a woman and she doesn't want to talk to me, there's nothing wrong with her. She just does not attract it to me. That's okay, though, and that's okay. A lot of them are actually not like that the psychology is that even though they can,
Starting point is 02:18:00 they could get girls. it's just that they always shoot for like the top one percent of females and get rejected and then hate all women it's like really fucked up who's the top one percent of i don't know i don't how do you define that it's like it sounds like they all definition in their head of what the top one percent of females should be they all like want like go for like kennel general looking people yeah i'm even less i'm even less empathetic of them now because you're saying it's not necessarily that they can't get women it's they can't get the women that they want it's just not that I'm empathetic of them.
Starting point is 02:18:33 You know how bad- terrified. You know bad- Maddie, are you not terrified as well? I'm, oh, insoles, like, being a young woman,
Starting point is 02:18:40 like, insels are something I think about. You know how badly she would fucking suck to date Kindle Jenner? Yeah. You're like, people are acting like
Starting point is 02:18:48 they want to date a Kardashian. It would be the worst fucking experience of your life. Yeah. Every now and this, he just walks up and gives somebody a Pepsi can, that'll be weird.
Starting point is 02:18:56 Yeah, maybe, yeah, if you're like in a fight with her, at least she could neutralize that, but like it's it seems like it's the worst experience that you could ever imagine in your love life you're thinking you're the whole time you're like well every single professional athlete that I meet wants to and probably could fuck her or has or or has like I'm just being I'm in the public
Starting point is 02:19:19 eye all the time she's super tall big change for you but like a different public eye yeah that's true TMZ I'm poor compared to her and I'm married and she's huge she's tall and I'm I'm just this little guy for some reason it's really bad in Canada there's a ton of people in cells in Canada Maddie Maddie and women in general have a real that's a I understand that threat like I get that I get that because like I mean I could not imagine like leaving Target at 12 a.m. because I had to pick up some like a lufa or something right and I'm going to my car scared
Starting point is 02:20:01 of being sexually assaulted I've never had this experience it that's wild definitely tough yeah you scared it's a scary thing but Billy what the fuck is you scared for bro dude these guys have but they have mass networks of communities they're supported online by each other so it gives them this like weird
Starting point is 02:20:21 false sense of if anything they really need to like start doing some out reach to these groups and de-radicalizing a lot of them because it's there's you're out there really you should convert them yeah it's like if remember pf t's like weird cult convention that we need to tackle it's but it's a lot it's it's there's like tons of studies how it's like the root of a lot of problems in this country okay here's my idea you ready for this start a charity the charity we collect money we legalize prostitution prostitution prostitution and we have, we give them money to spend on prostitutes that are in our network of their choice.
Starting point is 02:21:03 The prostitutes opt in. They're doing good for the community. They're helping the country out by helping these men who could be sexually repressed. And you get a prescription to have sex. Have sex. Yeah. And then you get laid. And then who knows if that's going to actually fix you because you're probably kind of crazy.
Starting point is 02:21:21 They also, a lot of the, you need more than just like to have sex. one time. Yeah. But I don't desire love. But I don't think it would hurt or they just
Starting point is 02:21:30 a lot of them do like have a lot of issues. Yeah. So. You don't say. No. I mean.
Starting point is 02:21:39 Billy, you're just making this so much worse for yourself. And Billy, you're all over the place to these guys are terrified of them.
Starting point is 02:21:45 And then. And no, you're, you're scared of in sales killing you like big D scared of this murder mystery he's a part of.
Starting point is 02:21:52 Like, isn't that what happened? I don't think, I don't think Billy's worried about getting killed by the insults because like he's afraid of dying. I think he's afraid of the shame that would go along with having
Starting point is 02:22:03 a bunch of betas be the ones that took him out. Like they're not a worthy adversary to take out. That's how much of a chatty is. He's like, oh man, I'll get killed by a virgin. No. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:22:17 Bro, these guys commit terrorism. Like, they are the ones who will chase you down in real life. How many times does that happen? How many times has there been a mass? And the person was like, I did this because I'm an in-cell. At least eight mass murders resulting in a total of 61 deaths have committed since 2014 by men who have either self-identified as in-cells who are mentioned in-cell-related names and writings in their private writings or internet postings. But that could just be because they're crazy people in general, not because they were incels. I think they're crazy people who are looking for any place to belong.
Starting point is 02:22:51 Yeah. And they get sucked in by real pieces of shit. that are trying to manipulate them. And, yeah, just, if you don't have anybody to talk to about anything, it's really easy to just fall into some stuff that you have no idea what you're getting into. It's like these reddits, like these subreddits that are like in-south-based. They're off Reddit now. They're on to 8chan.
Starting point is 02:23:13 They're on to fucking 64-chan. I still don't know what 8-chan is. Is it multiples of 4-chan? Yeah, it's like the deeper. It's like 4-chan is like there's Reddit, then there's 4-chan, then there's 8-chan. and then there's 64 Chan where like it just gets worse and worse and worse
Starting point is 02:23:29 rhetoric means there's a 62 and a 32 Chan I don't know but like they keep creating they keep all there's significance for the number four yeah they all like they all like go like racist misogyny where if I just type in 64 Chan
Starting point is 02:23:43 white nationalism and they keep getting blocked off of 4chan than 8 Chan because they're like protecting freedom of speech and moving onto new platforms it's the island it's the island it's the islet of misfit toys so to speak. If you're that deep
Starting point is 02:23:57 on it, oh God, if they'd listen to this they're going to kill. They're going to kill. They're going to kill Aryan. Yeah. If there's an insult what he said today, kill, go after Aryan. He probably is sure. You're worried about nothing. You're the one who's, you've been curtailing to him.
Starting point is 02:24:13 They're going to listen to what Aryan said. I actually don't think Aryan said anything wrong. I think Aryan gave him good advice. I gave you good advice. I said, look, I have no sympathy for you if you feel like offing somebody because you can't get laid or whatever your issue is, there's always a better way to handle it.
Starting point is 02:24:29 And if your first instinct is to kill somebody because of this shit, fuck you. Yeah, they don't want sympathy, by the way. I don't, I, that's not what they're after. I'm sorry. I got better things to worry about it. Niggies that can't fuck, bro. Print the t-shirts. Prostitutes. Give them some stoots.
Starting point is 02:24:49 And I'm saying. That can't help them out. Let's legalize it. regulated so that can be a safe haven for people that cannot find refuge sexually and for people to have an outlet to go. You want to trick off on your merits. That's what's up. People like having sex, man. That's all it is, man. So, the worst case scenario, you legalize prostitutes, prostitution, sex work. Maybe more STDs, but I would say even that's a bad argument because there's regulated testing. I would say less. Yeah, I liked Ariane's idea earlier.
Starting point is 02:25:23 where he was basically talking about, like, you walk in and you get to see their next-gen stats. Yeah, give it a car fax. Baseball, like a baseball card. Yeah. Yeah. Well, man, you've done this, this, this. You had it, boom, I want that.
Starting point is 02:25:36 That's what I want. You do your thing. You test too. They test you, right? Yeah. So it's just a clean exchange and, boom, we're out of here. This is good. I really don't see a downside to it from a practical standpoint.
Starting point is 02:25:50 Big T. Do you see a downside? If two people If one person wants to pay somebody else to have sex I think that's fine One thing we haven't talked about at all today Given all the stute talk we've gone down here We haven't talked about jigalos
Starting point is 02:26:07 Oh yeah Male male prostitutes Is it so rare I feel like it is rare Yeah But not just in the heterosexual community Not just in the heterosexual Well, I think jigilos in the homosexual community are more common.
Starting point is 02:26:24 Yeah. Than in the heterosexual community. Being a heterosexual woman, I've never heard of a jigolo as a 22-year-old until right now. The first time a TV show about it. I think it's just the way that men and women traditionally have evolved is if you wanted to have sex with somebody, Maddie, you just could point and you could just make it happen. Like, we, we have to put in the time into courting you, rather as you would just, like, show a little interest in you, and you got to, if you, if you, traditionally. Mm-hmm. There.
Starting point is 02:26:58 I think that's your argument. Billy, what you about to say, man? Nothing. What are you going to say, Billy? Say it. Not for me. That's exactly what the insults say. I was just going to say.
Starting point is 02:27:10 It's the truth. You're getting into mild insults. Yeah, dude. It's the truth. But what's wrong with that? Like, what's wrong with? the woman having agency over her own body. What's wrong with that?
Starting point is 02:27:23 Yeah, I think you make a good point where it's like women, they get to make the selection. That's on them more so than the guy. Because we're more physically dominant, right? Like traditionally we are more physically dominant. So if we were to make this election, that would be rape. Yeah. Right. This is not, like, I don't understand what's, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:27:45 I agree with this. Also, also women are. are just much more capable, intelligence-wise, of using that power correctly. If it was a guy and it's just like, hey, you can, you can have sex with anybody that you choose. We would, we would get ourselves into a whole heap of trouble. Yeah, I've never like, I've never just like walked up to a guy and been like, yep, let's go. Like, that's. Sure.
Starting point is 02:28:10 But you could. You could, probably, yeah. Depending on the guy, but probably, yes. your odds are better than if any one of us was to do it yes yeah I mean you guys but we're all handsome well maybe not Billy Billy Billy's ultimate Chad which is why he's Billy has his pick of the litter that's for sure
Starting point is 02:28:29 Billy so afraid right now he's so afraid of the insult I do not have my pick of litter I struggle with this dude I live with a dog multiple animals like and he still gets laid it's crazy that's a desirable trait That's an desirable trait, man. Yes, it is.
Starting point is 02:28:47 Women love animal lovers. I have really incompatible interests with women. I hate women. No. I'm an internan anthropologist. Yeah. Billy, just say that you're an insult. No, because that's fucking...
Starting point is 02:29:01 Billy's an insult has gotten plastic surgery and all sorts of body modifications over the years to blend in as a Chad. Are you trying to infiltrate the... Infiltrate the world of Chad's. Yeah. Do you think they would have... I hate Chad like Billy Moore or a voluntary celibate. Oh, a voluntary celibate. That's what a priest is.
Starting point is 02:29:22 Yeah. Yeah, allegedly. Yeah, allegedly. Do you think they would, they would respect? They're the ones that get the jiggilobes. Well, it's like, no, it's like, it's like, my, my heritage is not your costume. Like, how dare you? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:29:40 Appropriate. Yeah, I was, yeah, I was born into this, you merely inherited. Yeah, it would be like me, like the shopping carts that are also wheelchairs, like me using one of those when I'm perfectly able-bodied. Like, that's a voluntary celibate. Yeah. Which I argue that those should be more readily available.
Starting point is 02:29:59 It is luxurious shopping in those. Brough. As a cab and done it as an adult, but like as a teenager when I was an asshole, I would have. You definitely, Aaron, I've seen some of your MRIs when you were on the Texans. You definitely used a motorized shopping cart once or twice. No, I'm not, no, I'm my brother.
Starting point is 02:30:16 No, so you, okay, there you go. Billy. So you, you had a personal shopper and you find it ridiculous that Chris Paul could have a personal dentist. These are the questions. Shopping for groceries. Chris Paul has made a higher dentist. Chris Paul's made a lot more money. Wow.
Starting point is 02:30:34 You have to literally go to years of school to be a dentist. You just not have to go to any years of school to go get groceries for somebody. Right. There are multiple apps. that offer home delivery for groceries I'm nowhere near the same I'm gonna be honest I fucking love shopping
Starting point is 02:30:50 for groceries like is that one of the biggest ways of times I've I hate it I hate grocery shopping I love going just like especially going to the deli just like picking out the meats and then like you know look checking out the like the cold cuts
Starting point is 02:31:06 and then you go home like picking out some pasta or something or like you know maybe you're going to do a risotto do like a rice dish and then you cook Then you go home, and then you, like, crack a beer, like, you know, grill or, like, you know, put some music on. Open a fortune. Start making some food. No, I don't mind grocery shopping.
Starting point is 02:31:27 Dude, I fucking love grocery shopping. I just can't go if I'm hungry because then I... Well, that's the best time to go. No, it's the worst time to go. I get all the shit I don't need. Yeah, but then you have in your house and then you always eat in and then you don't, like, spend money on eating out. Yeah. Unless you're in Pompeii.
Starting point is 02:31:42 Like that guy in Pompeii. Yeah. Pompey, I think they used to justify, like, you know, like, cities of, like, Solomon Gimor always get destroyed. Yeah. I think they, I think that's been referenced a couple times, like religious texts. Speaking astution, it's really weird that Las Vegas, everyone refers to it as like Sin City, you think of Las Vegas, you think of prostitutes and escorts, it's actually illegal.
Starting point is 02:32:08 Prostitution's illegal in Las Vegas. It's legal in Nevada, but it's illegal in the city of Las Vegas. Can I clear up What's the difference between an escort and a prostitute? I think an escort is more of This is your date for the night And then at the end of your date There may or may not be sex
Starting point is 02:32:27 There will be sex Oh, it's a guarantee I think it's heavily implied It's also like Arm candy too And emotional stuff sometimes Where like talk to somebody And like it's like a whole
Starting point is 02:32:40 It's like a day event as well or a date as well it's not just like yeah i'm here for this it's like i go look you like a girlfriend for the night or something like that so it's like oh i have a event that i need a plus one to sometimes yeah can't be here's like that or like that's kind of or just like a night out on the town it's kind of like what sugar babies are used for and as a 22 year old girl sugar daddies are everywhere not that i have one but they are in your dms nonstop sugar daddy Oh my God It was a pre it was a pre it was a pre I think that's like why only fans became a thing
Starting point is 02:33:15 Because I actually know a bunch of like girls in college who'd have like older men like sending the money just for like there's websites for it fake Yeah What's the going rate for like a sugar daddy situation? The DMs I get are five hundred dollars a week Yeah, they'll literally put you on payroll and and none of it is sexual yeah what do they get out of it? Emotional sport Like, you just have to, like, text them. That's it. You said you don't have one?
Starting point is 02:33:45 That's the easiest job of all time. Outsource that shit to Gleney Balls. He'll do the texting for you. Most of the time, I think they're bots because it's, like, zero followers and whatever, and they're, like, stock images. So I think they're bots most of the time. And I actually am not having, like, 55-year-old men in my DMs. I really hope my parents aren't listening to this. But.
Starting point is 02:34:04 Dude, it's scary as far. But I have never responded to one or anything. but like I know girls like in college that would actively approach and like go on these websites that were like you basically sign up put in your like stats and then you get like connected to a sugar diet and then you can be like this is how much I want on like weekly or monthly basis there was like there was there was there was rumors when I was in college of like older women that wanted the same thing yeah sugar mommies are also and and so I just see dudes getting laced right and so I tried to go find one
Starting point is 02:34:38 Best I could get was a pair of Jordans. That was it. And she was, she was pretty good. She was asking for a lot more than I was willing to give. Like, I was just trying to lay the pipe and then going about my business. But she was like asking for emotional. And I was like, I think that's why she ended up cutting me off. She wanted more.
Starting point is 02:34:55 And I was like, I thought, I'm like, where are you? I'll find any of these people that are just giving you these racks like this. I couldn't find one. Now, would, you know, would you think that if a school provided connections to these women, that would be a recruiting violation Louisville yeah I mean
Starting point is 02:35:14 fuck the NCAA but they would probably be it like that yeah like how funny would that be it's a good idea if like literally what Louisville did really yeah yeah but I thought that was strip
Starting point is 02:35:26 that was strippers yeah I'm sure that's all they did no but I'm saying Rick Petino clear lines were I thought about Rick Petino there was no hanky-panky going on I'm saying after the stripping was over
Starting point is 02:35:37 Nick said Saban walks into a recruiting visit and he goes, we can provide you with sugar mommas. And you can have your own sugar bobby. Like, what's that? Like, she'll buy you Jordans. Sure. Sabin's not the guy who does that,
Starting point is 02:35:50 but I'm confident he knows who does. I'm sure. I mean, David goes above that. He has car dealerships. Yeah, he owns Mercedes dealerships and nobody bats an eye. Yeah. I think,
Starting point is 02:36:02 I think it's a good idea for recruiting tool to a billy. Did you ever, on your many college visits billy um to my like yeah where did you go on your college visits i went to a bunch of uh low tier fcs schools and then um like d3 schools oh never mind that sucks yeah there's no definitely no no one was throwing the bag at me no prostitutes these are academic grown sugar mamas you qualify for this yeah bill you look like you you you would be prime picking for a little sugar mama though who who would like yeah like just like billy I'm pretty sure this is sexual harassment
Starting point is 02:36:39 Come through, lay it down Show, sure, show cookie food Pool boy Yeah, Billy the Pool Boy, yeah Oh man Oh, you know what they should do They should creeper clogged You know what they should create an app
Starting point is 02:36:56 For older women Looking for younger men and connect them And then sign up all the in cells To that No, Ashley Madison also Billy What Billy's describing right now Would just immediately be overrun by all young dudes
Starting point is 02:37:14 It would just be young dudes Talking to each other on the website Very few older women would actually sign up PFT wasn't that the name of the site Ashley Madison was the life is short Having a Fair website Yeah I thought that was And then like every
Starting point is 02:37:28 Every user's information got hacked or something And they posted like every single person who'd ever use it Yeah Who would have ever seen that It was all dudes. Yeah. That's what, so they, they marketed themselves as being like a 50-50 split, if not more female.
Starting point is 02:37:44 And I think it was like 93% dudes, 7% women on the website. Because as we discussed earlier, a woman can go outside and be like, yeah, you, me and you right now, no need to register online for this, or give my credit card information. And so, yeah, they got a lot of people's email addresses. and I think a lot of people's just domains because I remember seeing that there were like 15 people at ESPN that had signed up for it using their
Starting point is 02:38:12 at ESPN.com email addresses which all-time dumb-ass move signing up for an adultery website using your business email. Dude, it pisses me off how much like other media companies just do like the most fuck shit
Starting point is 02:38:31 but like Barstles, the bad guy. A lot of fuck shit. A lot of fuck shit. at other places for sure um anything we the way you're talking about like uh women can just go outside and point do you think and this plays more into billy's in cello obsession than i'm not obsessed it's fear do we think porn because every like every video i've seen it's always the woman coming on to the man it's never the man having to like finesse his way into it you ever seen mill funner he goes even that he goes to grocery stores and meets totally real chicks
Starting point is 02:39:10 and he's just like hey let me show you how to tell if these millins are ripe and then he comes on to them next thing you know they go home and bang he is pretty much like the only one like yeah pizza delivery it's always just like i forgot money why don't you come in it but it's always the woman coming on to the man does that do you think that plays into the psychology because it's just like i'm a man why is no woman ever just inviting me home into our home when I'm trying to sell these vacuums. That's a good point. So on what I've read up about it,
Starting point is 02:39:39 porn is a huge factor in incels being radicalized. Yeah. In various different ways. And so you're saying that they watch porn and they're surprised that real life doesn't play out that way. Exactly. Because it's their only. It's their stupid. They're stupider than I thought.
Starting point is 02:40:00 It's not like a play-by-play of- But the women are predominantly coming on to men. They just, they have no social, they don't have the social intelligence to know that that is in reality. Yeah, it's their only experience with like seeing a sexual interaction. Yeah. So they don't know that that's not how it works. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 02:40:23 I wonder what they thought when they watched avatar. I wonder. Good question. Well, they start. Well, they live in a world of a lot of media consumption. and be it video games and stuff and then they think that's real life. I'm playing video games.
Starting point is 02:40:38 Now you sound like a 90s Republican. Don't blame video games. Video games are directly been studied and you do not lead to any kind of violence, bro. Now, I do think it becomes one of the communities that they get involved in because they don't have another community. And so the gaming world provides like a little bit of support to them. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:41:02 So I play Valerner, right? Yeah. When you get on Valerant and there happens to be a woman that's queued with you, dudes go fucking nuts. Those are the in-cells. They're fucking weird. They're like, oh, my God, you're a girl. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:41:15 They start, they bitch her. They do this. They do it. I'm like, bro, what is wrong with you? Like, y'all get outside. That's where they all live. Shit's weird. Big weirdo energy, man.
Starting point is 02:41:26 Sometimes I get drunk and play Valoran. I'll be telling the niggas pull up. Oh, so you've taken on the intel community. before because it's all it's cat is what it is so they need to be they be all right they're hit with the nigger hard ER all the time on that game and I'm like pull up let's see pull
Starting point is 02:41:44 I've given I've given my address to like two or three of them cats like night oh my god pull up pull up imagine if like an in cell actually pulled up to Arient's place and it's fucking Aryan Foster clapped yeah clapped in Texas
Starting point is 02:42:00 you don't need a reason you're getting clapped I want to see it happen I want to see what happened Do you have a nest cam or something like that? An automatic security camera I got a security. Okay, I want to see the footage of that.
Starting point is 02:42:14 I got you. So I just want to get you to pull up. I'll be investing in one. Keep you safe. You can see every time Mince knocks on your door. I want to be afraid of. You got Mincey right there.
Starting point is 02:42:27 You can protect you. Dude. These guys do some crazy shit. Mm-hmm. I'm actually terrified of them I look like you legitimately like shook you look like
Starting point is 02:42:39 like they're gonna follow you home today like you talk about like you know being afraid like being afraid of getting convicted for a crime you didn't do such as also stupid yeah but I my fear is spending life in prison Billy's scared of dudes who can't even like have sex no Billy's
Starting point is 02:42:55 but they kill people Billy's fear is being killed by a guy that infantimal percentage of them have done fucked up up shit. The others are just really weird. But Billy, you wouldn't even be on their radar, bro. Well, now I am. Yeah. You've really talked away. That's, that's why.
Starting point is 02:43:14 They have, they have, like, a fucking monitoring service anytime in cells mentioned on an internet. Like, they can get the fuck out of your first, like two hours in the podcast. We're not checking for you, Billy. I promise. Okay. Thank you. They're on my bumper, if anything. Definitely. Yeah, they definitely have, like, racism. head of you for sure perfectly well i just didn't want to let them know my body count is plentiful and most of them i didn't even have to try it was bestowed upon me love it oh man all right uh we got any anything else you want to add to institution
Starting point is 02:43:54 um stu talk make sex works illegal i mean legal yeah legal i was gonna say we're not And we need to start running up these mentions for the Avatar site so we can get the momentum going for Avatar 2 because I feel like we can make this shit happen. I think Aryan can definitely be at least an extra in Avatar 2. That will be fire. Yeah. I would love that more than me being in drafting.
Starting point is 02:44:21 I actually, I don't think that you would. I think it might shatter your illusion of whatever the fuck that planet is called. Oh, no, Pandora. Pandora, sorry, excuse me. you'd be like on the sound stage looking around like you're a green there's a green screen all around you and you'd be like this this is completely shattered my reality i do my job i go home wait for the effects to get added and then i bask in the gloriousness of what they create all right if you're the director of avatars james cameron you listen to this podcast i know you're big fan of the show um
Starting point is 02:44:54 first of all sorry for everything that billy said about incels secondly uh hit up airing hit up arian get them in the dms are open dms are over get them in the movie um so that about does it for no you know what we need to do we actually have a couple things we got to clean up here um first of all we got to do the tennessee minute yeah Tennessee minute with arian and big t right before the show started today sat down on garage bend and made a trap version of rocky top so um big t i'm going to need you to sing along to this you want to sing yeah you're singing Okay. You have to sing also. Okay. Avery, you got to file?
Starting point is 02:45:35 Yeah, Madeline, if you want to hear. Well, no, I can just put it in post. So you could just do this, or do you want to actually play it? I can do it either way. I want to play because we've got to have Big T's sing along to it. Yep. I can play it on my computer if that's easier. Billy, what you go, go, man?
Starting point is 02:45:53 While we're waiting on this, Tennessee defeated Tennessee Tech 56 nothing on Saturday. Tyler Barron had half a sack And it's a big week this week It's Florida week So area Where we at negotiations with Tyler Barron man Where we at? I think that's that's Madeline and Avery
Starting point is 02:46:12 I don't know anything about that Big T you guys said It's the biggest scoring gap Between two schools and college history With you guys have played them three times They've never scored a point And you guys have never hung Less than 54 on them
Starting point is 02:46:26 Really? I didn't know that I know we played them when I was in school, and it was like 63 to nothing, I think. Yeah, you guys were playing three times ever. They've never scored, and you've hung at least, I believe, 54 on them all three times. So is that more than, is it more than Georgia Tech and Cumberland, which was 22 to nothing in one game? That was the one, but that's the one game. I believe they've played other times as well. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:46:48 How is it even possible? That's like scoring on every play. They start, Tech also didn't attempt to pass in that game, and Cumberland started punting on first down. You should read into that game. It's very interesting. But yeah, so Florida. Arium, what was your freshman year? Oh, true freshman year, 04, register, 05.
Starting point is 02:47:13 So you were there for the Will Hoyt game then? Against Florida. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, my brother caught that ball. Really? Yeah, he was in stands that game. So you did get to beat Florida. Florida once.
Starting point is 02:47:29 I didn't. Well, yeah, you were on the team. I don't count that. So you never beat Florida? Not while I was there. Before we do the song, I just have something quickly to add because we got a lot of DMs about it. Big T, what were you doing on September 2nd?
Starting point is 02:47:46 Do you remember? September 2nd. Yeah. People just want to know. I don't know what the implication of this is, but I don't remember why. Because UT police put out a thing asking if if anybody knows the man that used a stolen credit card from an elderly victim at the football game
Starting point is 02:48:03 at Neeland Stadium to purchase $350 worth of merchandise. Yeah, I watched it at a bar in Manhattan, so I was not in Knoxville for that. I did see that actually. Okay. I just want to make sure you clear that up. Yeah. So. Did you look like Big T?
Starting point is 02:48:18 No. I mean, if the credit card had charged like $350 of Angry Orchards, we'd know Big T was our guy. Yeah, for sure. All right. Let's play the Tennessee minute theme song. Big T you got it sing along, ready? Okay, do you want me to start it? Yeah, get ready, though.
Starting point is 02:48:35 Are we ready? Yep. Wait. Hang on, replay it? I don't know where to go in. He's right at the beginning. Like, right when it starts? Do you want me to count you guys down?
Starting point is 02:48:51 Yeah. Yes. Okay, ready? Three, two, one. Wish that I was. on old Rocky Top down in the Tennessee Hills Ain't no smuggy smoke on Rocky Top Ain't no telephone bills
Starting point is 02:49:08 Once I had a girl on Rocky Top Half Bear the other half cat Wild as a mink but sweet as soda pop I still tear about that Rocky Top you'll always be Home Sweet Home to me good old Rocky Top Rocky Top Tennessee
Starting point is 02:49:33 Rocky Top Tennessee Rocky Top Tennessee I watched PFT make that beat in about five minutes It's lit That was a good song Yeah That was really good That was an interesting cast man
Starting point is 02:49:51 I'm sure Tell you what we're gonna we're gonna redo it I'm gonna keep that beep but I'm going to have Big T sing the lyrics to it into a microphone. You mix it? Yeah, so I'm going to mix it together. So it's going to sound good. I might even put some crazy, like, effects on your voice after.
Starting point is 02:50:09 Auto-to-T. Yeah, I might auto-tune big T's voice on it. Big T-Pain. I love it. All right, well, that does it for this week's macro-dosing. Make sure tune in on Thursday for nanodosing, or is it mini-dose? Nana. It's nano.
Starting point is 02:50:27 And also we've got to address that. I'm getting many DMs, though. That's saying Billy has some stolen valor and you got that from somebody else. Is this true? Oh. Bill and steal valor. No, Billy. Say it ain't so.
Starting point is 02:50:43 There was many people who said what we should have called it. And there's tons of submissions and I came up with nanodosing, but other people also came up with nanodosing and de-ended it to me. Okay. So it's like there was mini-dosing, nanodosing. I just had to address it. I was like, I don't know Billy to be that kind.
Starting point is 02:51:01 I believe Billy too because it happens from time of time. We get DMs and it's things that you have already put into motion. It's just like good idea. Good like, yeah. We all have the same brains. You know what? That tells us that
Starting point is 02:51:14 our listeners were on the same wavelength. Yeah. We all have the same brains. Because we're all just like, what's another pro like fragment word that means small? We got macro brains. Nano. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:51:28 Nano. No, not micro. It's not micro dosing. Speaking of the low-hanging fruit, I think we, it was a low-hanging fruit. Teeny dosing. No, I like nanodosing. Nanodosing is fun. Nanodosing.
Starting point is 02:51:40 So we'll put that out again on Thursday. Thanks for everybody that listened to the first one. Send in your questions for us for nanodosing. What's the number that they can send it to? It is 347-560. I'm doing this off of memory. 0401. Did I nail that?
Starting point is 02:52:01 I fucking nailed that. 347-560-0-401. Sounds good. Underware. And if Erin gets it right, Tennessee will cover the spread, 20-point spread. Do it.
Starting point is 02:52:16 You are wearing... Yeah. Green. Green. That's a wild guess. It is a wild guess. If you get this right... What color is that?
Starting point is 02:52:28 That's blue. It's fucking green, bro. No, it's blue. That's Avatar blue. That's Avatar. It's what it looks like. Are you wearing Avatar underwear? Well, they are blue like stripes.
Starting point is 02:52:38 It's blue on blue. All right, that's cool. I will say, I will say, pretty close to green, man. If you could say them, they're not green. Speaking of our listeners, I was at the Barstall Classic this week, I was gone for 10 days, but we had a ton of Macrodosians at the Barstel Classic. A lot of people came up to me
Starting point is 02:52:58 and they said they love our podcast So it was pretty awesome Very cool. Thank you guys Appreciate every single last one of you That's a fact I also went to Vegas for the first time Saw the Rumba You saw yeah the Allegiance Stadium
Starting point is 02:53:12 That place is sick How's she doing? It's unbelievable Well it's all fired up Ever since you had your way with her Was she reflective in the sunlight Oh yeah Did she say did you mention me?
Starting point is 02:53:24 No That's a good looking stadium it really is uh haven't been out to Vegas in a year and last time I was out there spent some time with her but um hope to get out there soon hopefully in the next couple months we'll be back out in Vegas but tune in on Thursday for nanodosing until then let me let me let me know when you go to Vegas I'll pull up let's yeah we should do we should do a like a road trip out there that'd be fine there's got to be some stuff in Vegas we can get into that's good
Starting point is 02:53:56 Area 51's around that, right? Area 51. Yes. Storm area. Right. And as we're doing a trip to Vegas, I'm not going to Air 51, but I'm just ain't even know right now. I mean, you know, we'll figure something out.
Starting point is 02:54:09 Maybe we'll keep up. That's some, that's some end-sale shit to say, really. All right. Love you guys. I don't know.

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