Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Should We Cancel AI? | NANODOSE

Episode Date: March 28, 2023

On today's episode the guys are in the studio to discuss all different topics including the lizard king, live sporting events and happiness, Macrodosing's new city, Tarrare, AI generated content and much more. (00:01:00) BP Oil Spill (00:08:20) The Lizard King (00:17:40) Live Sporting Events (00:25:20) Duluth, Minnesota (00:41:15) Tarrare (01:02:45) Hospice (01:07:04) Endocrinologist (01:12:15) Indian Bots (01:19:30) A1You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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But, yeah, good to have everybody around big T's in studio, Billy's in studio, McKinsey and Mad Dog, M&M's are in studio. You guys are the green M&M's. Him and him. And we got, we got Arrian. Arion's also, he's in his, on his luxury yacht somewhere off the coast of Houston. He's zoomed in. Do you have a yacht?

Do you have a boat, Aaron? No. You should get a boat. No. What's the closer to lake to Houston? I'm going to tell you. Don't like water. What about the Gulf?

Do you like golfs? That's water. Yeah, but it's the Gulf. It's dirty water. It is dirty. My first experience at Texas beaches, I was shocked. I was shocked at all the, like, oil that there is on the sand. People drive their cars right up on the beach and you park your car there. And then you walk around, you get, you get tar and shit stuck to the bottom of your feet because the water has.

so much oil in it. Is BP to blame? Yeah. I think that might be more of the speed. Yeah, did we figure out what happened with BP? Did anybody get arrested for that? No, they lobbied. Their lobbyists just just put that under the rug. Nobody got arrested for that. They were dumping a lot. There was a lot of oil in there. Are we sure nobody got arrested for that? I don't think anybody got arrested for that. How could nobody get arrested for that? Yeah. I, it's like, look, you know how many people get away with huge crimes? Yeah. Because of lobbying. Yeah. And shit. I mean, you can you can get thrown in jail if you litter too much. If I took, if I just threw my trash that I had right now out onto the street.

Yeah. Actually, it's New York. So probably blend in. But most places, if you just take your trash and you throw it out into the middle of the street and you block traffic, you could get arrested for that. You're telling me I can't crack open a beer and walk in the street or crack open a beer on the way to the Yankees game on the subway. Yeah. I can get a ticket. But you can just crack open a whole foster.

fuel reserve at the base of the Gulf of Mexico and just let it leak. Yeah. And you get nothing and Scotch free. Scotch free. Yeah. Is it Scott free without any alcohol? It's Scott free. I always thought it was Scotch free because it didn't stick. I thought it was it didn't stick. I thought that's what really. Yeah. That's why I know it's Scott free. I don't know the origin of that term. All the all the things he said, that's not the most. I think there's a lot of people that say Scott. free thinking that it's like because it doesn't stick okay all right there might be define a lot actually there a good amount of dyslexic people okay uh but hey scotch tape well you can't you can't blame dyslexia for mixing up scots scott and scotch yes you can't that's not dyslexia

whatever it is who cares okay yeah arians arian's right the play here he should have played it off as an alcohol pun yeah scotch free yeah Scotch tree. That's what I thought he got free. Yeah, but I mean, the large like many things Billy says, the larger point will get lost in his, uh, misappropriation of a word. I'm getting hunted down by Indian bots right now. Okay. Well, we'll get to that in a second. But Billy's right. People should be in jail for that. Yeah. Nobody went to jail as far as we know. I know research that we've done in the last 15 seconds. No one. Yeah. Trump hasn't been arrested yet. I think they realized that it would be. a bad move to arrest him. This is not about the oil spill. Yeah. He hasn't been arrested, but I think he, I don't know, I get the feeling like this district attorney

is probably going to do whatever it takes to arrest him. Yeah. But yeah, go listen to last week's episode of Brace. People love Brace. We'll have Brace on again soon. Brace is an all-time guest. We can sit him in this room and just have him bro with Billy for days, probably.

Arian threw a new study out into the group chat. Yeah. Yeah, let's talk about it. So the study that you sent over to us basically says if you don't like sports, you're a loser. Did I get that right? And that you hate your life. Yeah.

Hold on. Real quick. Let me back track for a second. It says former BP engineer arrested in connection with Gulf, Gulf of Mexico. That's 100% such a cop out. A fall guy? So like the guy that was actually on the rig? Yeah, I think that's really, yeah.

One of two years, the rigs were going to kill 11 workers and caused millions of barrels of oil to spill in the Gulf. Mexico, federal authorities have arrested Kurt Mix, a former BP engineer. Mix was among those tasks with monitoring and stopping the leaking oil. He is accused of destroying evidence showing exactly what the company knew about why attempts to steal the leak were failing. John Schwartz is a national legal force. Interesting. Yeah, so I think he. Yeah, the guy that got arrested was the guy that burnt and destroyed all the stuff. that would have implicated other people at BP.

Yeah. Yeah. So you've got to have a fall guy. Destroy this or you're fired guy got fired. Yep. And arrested. And they probably paid all this legal fees. Probably.

They probably got him out of prison. They probably took care of him. Yeah. After he got out of jail. That would be pretty, that would be a sweet gig. If you could do, like, he, this guy probably only got what, let me check three to six months. Oh, let me backtrack one more time. That was an earlier article.

This is later on. U.S. federal prosecutors have dropped manslaughter charges against two BP employees connected with the Gulf of Mexico oil spill disasters, making it highly unlikely that anyone will ever serve prison time over far-reaching. So the manslaughter charges, yes, obviously since people died, somebody should be held responsible for that. But what about also all the oil that just leaked into the Gulf and destroyed fishing industries and ruined golf tourism and fucked up the environment big time?

Nobody got in trouble for that ever. I think Don cashed in on that. Don? Yeah, they're just washing off animals. The ducks. Oh, okay. Don's soap. Miracle. Miracle mixture. Big soap cashed in on it. Yeah.

Who makes Don soap? Don. Oh, Billy's getting real into the details now. I think it's P&G. Oh. We're getting somewhere. Ohio-based company. On soap ownership.

And who owns P&G? Proctor and Gamble. Right. Procter and Gamble. Who owns Procter & Gamble? This is how the... Wait a second. Vanguard owns most of Procter & Gamble and British Petroleum?

Interesting. What? No, I'm kidding. That was sarcasm. I'm just saying. Find somebody... Give me somebody to get mad at for that. I want to know who needs to be in prison. I think they released petroleum eating bacteria into the Gulf of Mexico.

To clean up the oil. I'm sure there will be no consequences for that. Oil eating bacteria. That's like when they say, okay, we've got a rat infestation. Let's release more snakes. Oh, now we've got a snake infestation. Yeah, I mean, that's how the marine toads just infested Australia. Do you see that one they caught?

It was the size of a turkey. Yeah. Huge toad. Yeah. Huge toad. So how come those toads don't take over the United States? They, because they're native to South America. Yeah.

And they haven't been able to, like, there's. Some in Florida, but I think the climate's a little too dry in certain places. Also, they've got the snakes in Florida that'll eat them. Yeah, probably bullfrogs, to be honest. The American bullfrog is super invasive in other places, and they'll eat anything, anything in the pond. Have we had an update on all the snakes that are released into the Everglades? They're just eating deer, eating crocod alligators, eating homeless people. It's eating everything.

Damn. but people are out there hunting them I mean honestly macrodosing video I'll go down there with a machete and just start going after the pythons find a guy I would watch that that would be sick

I would absolutely watch that let's make it happen and I bring my dog what if it eats witty though he'll be a little bit of he might be no he helped me find them actually that's actually a very realistic possibility

he could get eaten by a python yeah you gotta watch out man Because he's pig-sized. It happens in Florida. Like people do it. They get these pythons and then they just, they're like, oh, shit, this python keeps growing. And obviously in Florida, I think per capita, they probably have the most domesticated snakes in the United States. And then they're like, oh, shit, this python's way too big.

I don't know what to do with it. It's expensive to feed. And then they just release it into the swamp. And it starts growing and growing and growing. and gets into like anaconda size. So I actually read a whole, so I've been into herpetologies from a very young way. You don't need to explain your, your bona fides when it comes to herpetology. One of the greatest piece of literature, and actually I would actually, we need to get this guy on the show.

It was called the Lizard King. It was basically talking about reptile smuggling in the 80s because basically the drug trade caused a lot of disposable income in South Florida and what these guys want to spend their money on. They had to, you know, wash a lot of money and they had to just show that they were super rich. So they started spending their money on exotic animals. Tigers, lions, you know, crocodiles. But this is when high-end morphs came into play. So there was a reptile smuggler from Thailand who discovered basically an albino-Burmese python. And it was a very impressive looking snake. I think

probably everyone knows it from the Britney Spears toxic video. You know the snake that was on Britney Spears, the white one? Basically there became a huge boom for rare morphs. So they started breeding... Was this after the toxic video? No,

before. Okay. Let me, let me, but basically they started breeding these snakes looking for the rare morphs, the colorful ones that basically a lot of these drug dealers and people in South Florida wanted to buy, because something about, you know, basically a living jewel was very enamoring to people who were taking a ton of cocaine. So they're buying all of them. But there was then the snakes that didn't look pretty

that were the byproduct. Like, let's say you have a, you know, a whole clutch of snakes. They all hatch and like two of them look, you know, rare. There's all these other snakes that are pretty much worthless. And then they get thrown out or they get released into the other glades or a hurricane hits and you know you got to evacuate and you can't take your gigantic snake with you yeah so that was but it's a really fascinating story and hopefully we can locate one of these guys because i'd love to have them on the reptile king the lizard king uh but brian christie was the author actually love to have him on um but the guys that they were talking about van no strand Michael j van no strand owner of strictly reptiles And like these guys were also sowing cocaine into snakes and smuggling them on their body because a before, I think it was not RICO, but Sites C-I-T-E-S, something about illegally trafficking exotic animals wasn't passed before.

So if you got caught with a bunch of snakes on you, it would be like, oh, you're a reptile smuggler. It's like a felony or, I mean, it's not even a felony at that time. and they would never check inside the snakes for the drugs. So it was a much lower charge than getting hit with a drug smuggling charge. So the lizard king of Florida was nabbed. Here's a great headline. Infamous lizard king

of Florida nabbed in turtle heist. Yeah. From 2021. Oh, he got hit again? A Florida reptile deal known as the lizard king faces federal charges. Billy, listen, I'm reading it out loud right now. Billy. I'm reading out loud right now so you don't have to look it up.

he faces federal charges for illegally harvesting turtles from the wild to smuggle out of the United States and sell overseas. Van Nostrand owns the reptile wholesale store strictly reptiles in Hollywood, Florida. They sell reptiles, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Documents filed in Miami Federal District Court show that Van Nostrand and his company

establish a network of so-called collectors to gather protected freshwater turtles from the wild. Van Nostrand then falsely labeled the turtles as having been bred in captivity so that customers would not suspect that the animals had been collected illegally. So he basically, he just caught a bunch of turtles

and then said, no, these are farm-raised turtles, but they're actually wild. I think he was going after Florida soft shells because those are overseas, like in, you know, with the, there's a lot of huge fish tanks in places, especially in like Southeast Asia. Yeah.

But Florida soft shales do well in the aquariums. and they fetch a good price. Striped mud turtles is what they're called. Striped mud turtles? Yeah. So I'm on the reptile king's side or the lizard king side in this. This is bullshit. Robert California is the lizard king.

Well, Van Morrison's the lizard king. But I think that I think you should, we should free the lizard king. They're trying to get him in jail for five years. Can we get him on the show first? Federal prison. Yes. He would be someone I really. want to because that book was fascinating to me as you know how come the how come the lizard king

gets five years in prison and BP doesn't get anything yeah I still have to buy their stupid fucking gas this guy may have caused the the python problem though no you his customers might have caused the python problem true but not the lizard king I say free the lizard king and by the way calling this a heist they they're just trying to get clicks that's not a heist he just He just caught turtles. Who do you steal them from? Their mothers? The wild.

The wild? That's not a heist. One couldn't make the argument about animals that people steal them from their families, but I've been shot down many time on that idea. I mean, that's fair. Like, when you adopt the dog, you just heisted it. Fun fact about this guy. Yeah, dog heist.

No, this is not a heist. This is, I found turtles. every Komodo dragon in captivity in the United States can be traced back to this guy he was the first person to get Komoto dragons out I'm okay with no Komoto dragons Tomo dragons are freaking wild Which is the one that will actually kill you

Is that Gila monster? No, Komota, well Gilmonsters can kill you too But Komoto dragons are like The craziest predator Like the most prehistoric beast on planet Earth Is the Komoto dragon They will kill you in cold blood They kill several

They still get bodies to this day on the Comodo Island. You're not really allowed to go visit them because they're that aggressive. You can. People do and they they've killed several tourists. I think it's much more rare nowadays but they've eaten several tourists. Yeah, the

Gila monster is a smaller one, right? The Gila monster is the one south of the border. Yeah. Mexico. The Komoto is the those are the massive ones and if they bite you, you're fuck because they've got poisonous mouth. And I think if they like kill someone, I don't think they can actually kill them. because they're so endangered i think it's one of those deals you can't exact revenge no no like i think

the government says if you get eaten by that might be let me look they have a boys will be boys clause but like comodo dragons like there was a guy who's like getting coconuts on top of a palm tree and he like climbed up there one day and he was grabbing his coconuts he fell asleep and then he woke up and there was just a bunch of kimono dragons waiting at the base of the tree and he like they waited him out for like days and days and days and then he he finally got so dehydrated dropped out of the tree and they just ate them they are the most cold blood killers on earth and they're uh they're not venomous but their saliva has such a high bacterial load that one bite you're it's like you're uh the wound will 100% get infected so

they'll bite like a water buffalo and then you just wait around for like a month until it dies of infection why don't the guy just start drinking coconut water that's good that's a very good question It's the most hydrating liquid on the planet. Yeah. This is why you always tell friends where you're going if you go out to harvest coconuts. Let them know what your hiking plan is. I think they killed a German tourist like recently. So let's talk about this study real quick.

Tourist or tourist? Tortist. I used to get terrorists and tourists mixed up when I was little. It was a very confusing time. he explained about terrorism and flying on planes and tourists and what are you doing we're being tourists here yeah billy sees like a middle eastern couple taking pictures of the empire state building he's like look at that terrorist and everyone gets mad at him like what why is everybody mad at me what are you what's the reasons for your stay we're being terrorists

tourists yeah tourists yeah young billy travels overseas to London what brings you here I'm I'm doing some some terrorism we're just going to do some terrorism and get in get out

tourism hey it's a bad mistake I got off scotch free so arian sent over this study into the group chat this morning and after after perusing it my conclusion is that

if you don't like sports, you're a loser. Is that, am I anywhere close with my description of the study, Aaron? I wouldn't categorize it like that. You're lovely, though. I just took it. Yeah, I took it to mean that, like, just any, any human study over the past,

whenever they've been studying humans, I think overwhelmingly concludes that the more communal you are, the happier you are, and the more life that you live. When you gather, people, enjoy people, and that keeps us living. Okay. And happy.

That's one way to look at it. We were talking about it before we started taping. And it looks like you could argue causation correlation in this study left and right. So if you attend more sporting events and things like that, you probably also have more money to spend. and then that means that your quality of life you're not hurting for anything so that might be a little bit better i said that not you yeah big correct big t said that yeah i that was big day yeah i also have a feeling that depressed and anxious people don't like to go to large sporting events because they

just get overwhelmed like socially anxious people because there's so many people and like it's very stressful situation well they also say there's growing literature on passive sports engagement So watching sports on TV could lead to having greater happiness than active sports engagement? I, they talked a lot about loneliness, which like obviously if you go do a bunch of stuff in public, like you're probably not someone who would describe themselves as lonely. But in terms of like happiness, this study was in England, which when I take it hard when Tennessee loses or the Braves lose, whatever. In England, when soccer teams lose, it is a. cataclysmic event and people are ready to they fire soccer managers over there if you start

you know oh one and two but at the same time if you if you're a fan of a bad soccer team like hypothetically if you're a fan of west ham and this year things haven't been going so well they'll fucking riot after the games after bad losses that probably burns off some of your negative energy right i guess they have a productive outlet for they do love rioting i would love to see this study if it was done in areas that had bad sports teams just in general to see if it's actually an improvement like for example

no disrespect mad dog no I was just gonna say it I was no I was I was already there if you're a Cleveland sports fan people are depressed does that make you more likely to be depressed than if you if you live in Cleveland and you don't give a shit about sports if you just care about fishing or yeah I don't know what else

or like serial killing yes if you're a serial killer are you more happy in Cleveland honestly probably because like I'll even do like a dad's like I feel like a lot of dads are into sports if I may stereotype like my dad like growing up when Sundays most Sundays were not fun and happy between September and January yeah I feel like there's a lot of Ohio State Cleveland Browns overlap there is yeah that's true so I feel like they not me but Yeah, most people. They supplement their happiness with some Ohio state. They get really, really happy on Saturdays to just have it come crashing down on Sunday afternoons. But, yeah. What about most Jets fans?

Most Jets fans are also Mets fans, right? Jets. Well, yeah. Is it Jets, Mets and Nets? Jets, Mets and Islanders, I think. Yeah, but that doesn't really. That's a tough four. Yeah.

But that doesn't necessarily always follow. I know you're a Yankees fan. Yeah. So that's why you're happy. Yeah. But if you're a Mets fan, a Jets fan, a Nets fan and an Islanders fan. Yeah. Are you happier than people in Long Island that don't travel to sports games or watch sports on TV?

Hmm. I think you probably might not be. There's something too commiserating, though. Like, it was not. So Tennessee, obviously, very good at football last year. hopefully they're very good going forward that was very fun but there is something to when a team is shitty and you you see these other people who are just as mad as you are and you can talk like shiano sunday the day that gregg shiano was hired and unhired at tennessee yeah i was very pissed

off it felt nice to look around at these other people who were as if not more pissed off than i was yeah and be like we're going to fucking do something about this so that there is something to that feeling of community as well even if you're not good yeah you're at least pulling in the same direction on something right yeah my parents say they didn't get married because of their love for each other they have the mutual hate they like they hate the same things like comasurating like that yeah what what is that what do they mean like people wait what's not like which people oh sorry like hating like what do they like they like they'll should talk together the british they're Irish right

my mom who do they hate like if they leave a party together they're not like oh I love you so much they're like oh my god that girl was so annoying that's true love yeah I think that's the that's like one of the biggest drivers

of watching reality TV is like just so you can shit talk people on the show it makes you feel better because you're like these people are crazy I'm not that crazy that's true yeah I think Big T's right

I think just being in the same boat as your neighbors it's good it makes you feel like you're part of something bigger doesn't even matter where the boat's going just as long as we in the same direction that makes good small talk it is like kansas city doesn't have that much small talk they don't know how about those chiefs it's like yeah they're really great there's no more to say but then it's like you know those jets suck if the chiefs didn't exist in kansas city you they'd just be like uh so the royals are we gonna care about them this year Yeah, like our, they complain about the airport.

That's what they know. Our airport sucks or zoos good. Yeah. That's Kansas City in a nutshell right there. Jason Siddikas. Yeah, they got a good barbecue. They got a good barbecue scene. Jazz, too.

Big jazz scene. Is it really? Well, I was researching. Are you thinking about St. Louis? No, no. Memphis. No, can't. Any place.

Why are you saying? No, I was down there and I was trying to. You were researching Kansas City jazz. Well, because I was doing the, I was investigating Kansas City Super fans. Yeah. I was trying to see, like, what else the city's known for. And jazz was actually up there. You know what?

And fountains. I'd like to become experts on a city on this podcast, like a random-ass city that nobody cares about. That none of us are from. That none of us are from. And we just go and we go there and do a remote podcast. Let's all text one right now. Maybe eventually.

I don't want to get over a skis real quick. I was in. You had me at every. let's let's just figure out a city to get obsessed with as a podcast like can it be a suburb or should it be like a metropolitan area a city that you've heard of i'm gonna say a urban planning baseline nah i was i was cool i was cool with like an unheard of city like some random play like in wyoming i would like to set you know what i would like to set a baseline i would like to set the baseline of over a hundred fifty thousand residents i was going to say 250 but that's a lot of But the thing is, if we pick a small town, a really small place, what are the chances that there's going to be a lot to learn about that small place? Hoboken, New Jersey.

There's a lot to learn. It's too close. Too many, a lot of people live there. It's not that many. Aaron, what do you think that the baseline should be at? I don't think that should be the baseline, but since it's your thing. No, no, this is our thing. But, I mean, it should be a city that, like, people have heard of.

Like, it shouldn't be Ackworth, Georgia. But why, though? Wait, what did you just say? Because that's what I think. What's that? That's where I'm from. Oh. I mean, wow.

He just took a little jab at his home. Do you think he's the most famous person from Akworth, Georgia? No. I would like, maybe we should do Akworth, Georgia. I like the sound of it. Where is Akworth? Tell me about Ackworth, Big T. It's about 30 minutes northwest of Atlanta, 22,000 residents in 2021.

I'm trying to find if anybody notable has ever lived there. Dennis Quaid, they filmed part of the remake of Footloose there. So Dennis Quaid was there for a little bit. Was he from there though? No, he was just there. He was in a restaurant one time like a couple days before I went there. Yep. Yeah, I remember you telling me the Dennis Quaid restaurant story.

Dennis Quaid was in the city for maybe a day or two and that's the most famous association. That was a big deal. All right, Aaron, what do you think the criteria should be? I think it should because I think that, I mean, all like when you look at the history of cities

in the U.S. in general, I think they all have something to them. That's why people migrated there, right? So there's a history behind every city. That's why I read at the city hall and something more interested in others. But I think it would be dope to have like a flag ship city for the podcast that we that we would end up going there and just like checking out

the town that she would actually be kind of fire it would expand like you know traveling to new place that's all one of my one of my like things on my bucket list is doing that movie thing where you go to the airport and it's like what's the next ticket out you know what I mean like I've always wanted to do that and so this would be like a dope version of that of like going to like I'm looking up like populations of all I have all cities pulled up of populations over 100,000 mm-hmm and so i mean there's some there's some good candidates on here like it depends on what state i feel like it can't be a state that any of us are from it has to be like a fresh state okay everybody gets to name one state and that will be our final list of states and then from

from that list of two four six states then we'll narrow it down okay so i'll just say hypothetically i'm going to say kentucky Kentucky is my state that I'm putting on the list. I'm looking up. Okay. I'm going with the, I'm going with Wyoming. Billy, just say a state. Just pick a state.

Don't look anything up. No, I want the city with the best urban planning. Yeah. Okay, but pick a state. Billy. There's a randomized part of this. Okay. Nebraska.

Okay. Big T. Maine. Maine. McKinsey. Minnesota. Mad Dog Okay

Washington State Okay, so we've got Washington State Wyoming We've got Maine You said Nebraska Or Big T said Nebraska Oh he said Maine Billy said Nebraska

Minnesota Okay And then Kentucky Aryan said Wyoming Oh Wyoming I do go more All right we should we should put out a poll and let the fans decide which which state and then we'll pick a city from that state okay are you I mean are are we could just name a city right now just a random city on that list of 100 150,000 population cities the first one you see that's in that in that group of those six states do we have a limit is there a maximum number of people that can live in that city yeah I mean I don't want to be like a massive like you don't want to be Seattle

Yeah, 150 to 750. Yeah, something in there. So I kind of like the idea of it being random. I think it's better if it's random because otherwise there will be people that are like, oh, well, become obsessed with my city. I just want to become obsessed with a completely random city. Okay, so I think this is correct. But it says cities in Wyoming by population in 2023,

there isn't the city with over 100,000. Not even Laramie? The most populated The most populated city is Cheyenne and it's 66,000. That's, I did not know that. That's actually kind of wild. All right.

And they get two senators. That is, that is wild. It's even more wild when you put it. That's crazy, isn't it? Those are like mares. That shit's broken, though. She's broken.

All right. All right. So, you'll see, yours is Kentucky. So let's go to. Lexington and Louisville for sure. 150. You think Lexington does? I think Lexington might be... It's not a small town.

I'm thinking of Frank. So we got Lexington. That's it. That's it. That's it. Lexington and Louisville are the only... Wait, I'm going to make a list. I think those are too big. I think the cut off of this list. The cutoff of the list is 100,000.

So population of over 100,000. Lexington and Louisville are the only cities in Kentucky with over... Okay. Now, Nebraska. Nebraska has... two, it's Lincoln and Omaha. Maine, Augusta. Yeah, Portland.

Maine, Maine there is not. Augusta, Maine doesn't. Oh, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, no, no, no, no. Yeah, what about Portland? My bad. We could go visit. No. Portland's the tip of the megalopal.

Wow. Augusta, Maine, 19,000 people. What? Yeah, Maine is. Yep. Something's going on with Maine. I'm putting, I'd like to add Maine to my watch list of states.

I want to keep an eye on Maine. I want to keep an eye on Delaware. Minnesota, Minnesota has Minneapolis and St. Paul. Duluth. Duluth. Upon further review, I think 150 may have been too large.

It might have been, yeah. Let's just make it 100. What I'm saying, I don't think population should play into it. I think it should just be, because they're dope. You know what?

There'll be a dope history behind every city. I like, I like Duluth. Duluth? I could party with Duluth, Minnesota. I've heard Duluth is fun. Duluth is. Duluth.

I never even heard of it. Billy's about say something problematic about Duluth. No, I'm not about to say anything problematic about Duluth. I want to keep Duluth as a hidden gem. You want to keep Duluth. Gate keeping Duluth. Everybody gets one veto. I don't.

Duluth, Minnesota is where you draw the line. I'd like to apologize to all of our listeners in Duluth right now because Billy just took a shit on. No, no. I don't want Duluth. It's a hidden secret that I want to keep. Okay. How often are you in Duluth? Everybody gets one veto.

Yeah. I'm just, I'm sad for the people of Duluth because I was about to go, I was about to go balls deep. Duluth is awesome. It's like sick. It's, it's,

now you're making me want to go. Yeah, why vetoing it then? How often are you in Duluth? I'm wild curious. Duluth and I go way back. Billy's got a couple warrants out for him. He can't be. He can't step foot.

The local, the volunteer Norwegian police force in Duluth, he's looking for Billy. He's on reptile charges. No, no, it's, they're actually Danish. But don't Duluth spain to me. No, no, the Danish police are on my ass. Okay. I thought you were telling me that there were no Norwegians in Duluth.

I was about to call. My bunkers, my bunkers near Duluth. I just, my bunkers near Duluth. I don't want, I don't want to, you guys near Duluth. All right. Now I, now I know why Billy is vetoing Duluth. When, when Billy was in his apocalypse, Cabin that he had a few years ago at the start of the pandemic, that was close to Duluth.

So I think Billy, this is Billy's way. Correct me if I'm wrong, Billy, but I'm pretty good at looking into your brain. This is your way of saying you already know too much about Duluth and you've been there too much. No, I love Duluth. If we were like going to have like a macrodosing convention in Duluth, I'd be like, yes, but I also want to keep Duluth, Duluth. Like, you know how like boat like you know how they call a bozeman montana bozangeles yeah because it's been gentrified and all right i'm i'm revoking billy's veto then i think we should do deluth i don't want to fuck up deluth if that's your reason billy's talking like somebody who's lived in like nashville or austin texas for the last 25 years and they're like this is bullshit keep deluxe changing yeah yeah no deluth is

deluth i mean deluth has such a amazing history it's like a mining yeah so let's fucking do deluth you piece of shit. Okay, okay. Let me speak to my people from Duluth and we can come through consensus. Billy, no, we're doing Duluth. No, now you see, Billy. Well, wait, hold on. Let's finish because Maddie had five.

There's five cities in Washington. There's Bellevue, Seattle. I think Seattle's out. So there's Bellevue, Spokane, Tacoma, and Vancouver. Tacoma, Washington, when you said this, was the first random city that popped into my head. Yeah. Now, is Tacoma too close? to Seattle? I think it, yeah, it's

it's basically Seattle, right? Yeah. And Vancouver is like North Tacoma, I think. Portland. It's like Portland. It's like South Canada. I'm talking like five minutes. No. Vancouver? Oh, I might. No, Vancouver, Seattle? Yeah.

There is a Vancouver, Washington. That's what I'm talking about. If I'm not mistaken, it's like right by Portland. It's like when your parents say you can't do something, now you want to do it more. Yeah. you've you've fucked yourself you do this every time where you're like oh no no no no and you just don't stop talking yeah you make me want to do deluthmore yeah it's like right by Portland it's like

it's like five minutes no uh I didn't know that there was no uh state tax in Washington I didn't know oh yeah so Vancouver is like yeah it's it's basically North Portland Aryan's right that feels like a cheat and then Tacoma is south of I really fucked up my geography on this one uh Tacoma is south are we sticking With the $100,000? No, that was too much. Are we sticking with the $100,000? Okay.

Do we do 50? I agree. I think leader in the clubhouse right now is Duluth. We can all agree on that. I'm pumped for Duluth. I got some hookups in Duluth. We have a great time to Duluth. I don't even, I don't even necessarily want the hookups.

Billy, how many times have you been to Duluth? Honest, genuine question. Genuine questions. I think I've been to Duluth about five times. You went to specifically Duluth five times. All right. So Duluth is fucking cool because it's right. It's on the border of Wisconsin and Minnesota, basically.

And it borders Lake Superior. Yeah. So it's fucking cold there in the wintertime. But the summers are beautiful. And the summers are beautiful. And it's right next to Superior National Forest. And by that, I mean, it's probably, I don't know, 100 miles away. But there's probably sick forests around there, cool wildlife.

And you're very, you're Canadian adjacent. Dude, there's a, uh, there's a snowmobile trail that takes you all the way up to Thunder Bay and you can just ride that. I'm more of a silver bay guy myself, but, uh, and then there's tons of shipwrecks. Like, you know, uh, uh, the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald? Yeah. Like, the great lakes are fascinating. And we could like dive a shipwreck.

The water's so clear and so cold. It's the most unique body of water I've ever seen my life. Like, imagine like everyone thinks of legs, right? and like lakes in the northeast like they're kind of they're fun but they're a little dirty and this is what ocean people complain about with lake people like oh the ocean's fresher it's like you know the water's colder it feels a lot like cleaner but these lakes are so clear and cold are they great they're amazing and you can see the bottom of the water and the thing is crazy thing about the shipwrecks since there's since they're glacial lakes and there's not as

much bacteria in the water, the bodies in these shipwrecks get perfectly preserved. So you could be diving a shipwreck from the 1700s and just come upon a basically a frozen dude down there. And his body looks just like the day he went down. Because there's not as many fish that like eat that stuff and microbes to decompose it. Yeah. But there's also gigantic sturgeon that look like they're from... Sturgeon scare me. They're dinosaurs. Okay, I mean... My friend has a cabin

up there too. I'm, I'm into Duluth. I'm so into Duluth. Shout out, Duluth, Minnesota. Dude, also, Culvers. Culver's. We could go to Colvers. Colvers. Is amazing. I, like, the dairy there is just... It's built different up there.

Yeah, the best of the world. All right, here's what we'll do. Here's what we'll do. Next, next nanodosing. Everybody's going to come with a Duluth fact. And it can't just be crib from the Wikipedia page. You at least have to look at two primary sources. Deep Duluth? Just give me some Duluth facts. We're going to learn everything there is to know about Duluth, Minnesota. Can we go? Yeah. Well, let's take it one step out of time. Let's just learn about Duluth first and make sure that it's a place that we would want to go would be a great place to go camping. Yeah. So let's just, let's just learn about it. Okay. Duluth,

The girl from the North Country, Bob Dylan, is written about a girl from Duluth. Don't use all your Duluth facts right now, Bill. Oh, shit. This is next Monday. It's already unloading. Next Monday on nanodosing, we take a shallow dive into Duluth. We dip our toes into Duluth. And then we'll move on and we'll see where it takes us.

There's one topic I want to get into a little bit today. I learned about it in Columbus. when I was on the gambling live stream and Megan Making Money was sitting next to me and she was talking to me about this old showman back in the 1700s and this dude is fascinating I think I think Bill Eul especially like this guy

his name is Tarar or it might be Tarare but they called him Tarar and he lived from 1772 to 1798 he was like a traveling circus freak and he's known as having the greatest appetite of anybody in history he ate so much that he was like a traveling side show where people would go and they'd just like watch him watch him eat basically so this guy

tarrar you can look him up on wikipedia it's t a r r a r a r e oh i heard about this guy he was born in france right they don't know his exact date of birth and when he was a kid his parents were like what the fuck this kid eats more than anybody i've ever seen he could eat his own body weight in a single day of food as a child. Didn't they say that he might have been like Andre the Giants says he like might have been related to this guy?

I don't know about that but his parents, he ate so much that his parents could not afford to take care of him. Like they literally could not afford enough food to keep their kid well fed. So he basically ditched his family. His family kicked him out because

they're like, dude, do you eat too much? You got to get out of my house. So he started rolling with like pimps and thieves and hookers and he just fell into like a shady underworld of society so he's stealing who's begging begging for his food and then he got a job as a warm up act for a traveling charlatan which by the way like charlatan gets thrown around almost as a pejorative word nowadays the old school charlatans i have nothing but respect for them so tarar would eat corks, stones, and live animals, he could swallow an entire basket full of apples, one right after the other. And he loves snake meat too. And then he moved to Paris to work as a street

performer. And he was successful as a street performer. But on one occasion, the act went wrong and he suffered severe intestinal obstruction. Members of the crowd carried him to the Hotel Diu Hospital, where he was treated with laxatives. So they basically just made him shit out everything that he ate. So he recovered. And then after he recovered in the hospital, he offered to demonstrate how good he was at eating by eating his surgeon's watch and chain. And then the surgeon was like, what the fuck, dude? I just saved your life. And you just, you decided to pay me by eating my watch to show me how good you were eating. And then the surgeon was like, if you swallow that, I'm going to cut you open to get my watch out. So he was like

a normal size dude. He weighed actually a little bit small. When he was 17, he weighed a hundred pounds, but he could eat 100 pounds in one sitting. So then he served in the military for a while. And then he tried to cure himself. But basically that he got kicked out of the, out of the military because he ate too much and they couldn't feed him either. Yeah. So he went back to the hospital, tried to get himself cured, tried to be like, I'm living with this curse where I, to do nothing but eat all the time. And the doctors treat him. They gave him laudan him. They gave him wine vinegar. They gave him tobacco pills, too, to try to get him to stop eating. And then following that, the doctor just gave him a shitload of soft-boiled eggs. But this also failed to suppress his appetite.

And he was caught in the hospital drinking blood from patients that were undergoing bloodletting. Oh, God. And then they transferred him to a lunatic asylum. his doctor was like, no, don't transfer him. I need to continue to study this guy. And at that same time that he was in the hospital, a 14-month-old kid just disappeared from the hospital. Did he think he ate him?

They suspected that he ate the kid. And they kicked him out of the hospital too because he couldn't stop eating. Like, okay, I'm, I'm, I'll say this. You should never eat a child. But if you're Tarar and you're living in just completely, and utter hunger for your entire hunger makes you do fucked up stuff i'm talking like not just you miss two meals hunger i'm talking like you feel like you're going to die like starvation hunger you will do crazy shit if you look back through history i i was reading that book about

some of the famines that that stalin imposed and yeah ukraine and shit like that um people were eating they ate their kids at times because they were just being uh starving if you're starving for months at a time and you don't die, you get, you go crazy. And so it sounds like he was just crazy his entire life because he was always hungry. So after the, after the hospital incident, he was contacted by the head of the Versailles Hospital. And they notified his, his family doctor that a patient of theirs wished to see him. Excuse me, I met. I, I, misread that. So after he left the hospital, after he dipped out, Tarar tried to get back in touch with his doctor from the hospital where he allegedly ate a kid. And he was like, I need you to

fix me. I'm in bed right now. I'm sick. I'm tired. I'm hungry. And then he told his doctor that he swallowed a golden fork two years earlier that he believed that was lodged inside of him in causing his sickness. And he was like, doctor, I need you to help me take this golden fork out. But then the doctor was like, no, you just got, you have tuberculosis. And so then he passed away. But after he died, they gave an autopsy. And they found that his throat and his esophagus was abnormally wide. And when they opened his jaws, they could see directly down into his stomach because it was just a pit. It was just a pit. His body was filled with all sorts of crazy. shit like pus and his liver and gallbladder were huge and his stomach was gigantic and covered

in ulcers and his stomach filled up his entire like body cavity so like from his from the bottom of his ribs all the way down to where normal people's intestines would be that was all of his stomach down there Jesus so I don't think he was I don't think he was related to Andre the Giant but this this dude is the all-time greatest eater I think we can say. Like, this dude would have fucking pun. This dude would have eaten Joey chestnut. Jesus Christ. I mean, this guy. I mean, I should have worked out. He probably had like a grenlin, which is like the hunger hormone, like, like leak. I don't know. How could he if he, if this dude, Billy, if you lived in the era of tarar and you just gotten him on the squat rack,

he imagine the gains this dude could have made. But I'm trying to. I'm trying to. trying to figure out because like the thing is you can have abnormal organs and stuff like we see he literally was built to consume but that doesn't make you necessarily consume like it's a it's a the psychology of being hungry at all times has to do with like your gremlin receptors i'm not familiar with the grimlin receptor g h i'm probably misprouncing it g h r e r e l i and oh i thought you're saying grimlin grelin this dude was in grimlin mode all the time relin there's actually dude to take synthetic ghrelin

and it gets you jacked don't do that it literally rots your brain it would suck bro yeah this this shit is crazy

so he he would sneak out of the hospital to scavenge in the gutters and in heaps of outside butcher shops and also he would eat the corpses

at the hospital yeah dude was wild what shout out to rar no this thing was a cannibal no shout out to him

the earth is way better without he was but he was just hungry that's not his fault his body was built different and he was never full he was hungry his entire life to our different he's built different

he was built different it's not his fault he I hope it imagine if he'd made it to America where food was plentiful you think you would have oh it's 1772 yeah

he should have come to America this is like y'all have said before you know if people do terrible shit but their brain is so fucked up that like they can't really control it is it their fault like was it this guy's fault

that he was well imagine I'm struggling imagine you're Tarar Big T okay And you're just, you're hungry all the time. You wake up in the morning. You probably can't even sleep because you're so hungry.

Your stomach's aching. You have low blood sugar. You have this ravenous need to eat. And you can never eat enough to ever be full in your life. Do you, would the thought occur to you? Because as an outsider looking at Tarar, you're like, well, probably should just off yourself, dude. If you're, if you're a cannibal and you're eating kids.

I think I would rather kill myself than like eat people. Yeah. But if you're Tarar, if you're in his. brain the drive to survive is like you there goes against your instinct to to take yourself out well there's a there's like a you know how depressed people stop eating yeah there's some sort of link and they're trying to figure out this like part of the brain we don't really understand yet about hunger and the will to live there's like a literal connection like the old adage like he had a hunger for life like so grelin they think has plays a serious role in all functions so he probably

was so hungry that like the idea of killing himself to make it stop because he was just i don't know there's like a they're thinking about grellin receptors in like people who have self-harm and they're like totally like hungry people are that's why like intermittent fasting is supposed to like help anxiety it's just like some sort of region but depressed people also overeat too right but but yeah but those are people with comfort good grelin good like growl receptors at one point tarar ate a live cat and left nothing but it's skeleton behind like a like a cartoon cat eating a fish where they pull the the entire skeleton out like heathcliff used to do that what the fuck but carrard did it with a cat do you think he literally just might

ahead hold it first he's like he's just how does your taste buds like adapt to so many various flavors like he's eating babies cats trash corpses metal watch like what the like he's just that's a diverse yeah like I respect realistically when you're putting a live cat down your gullet in having it dissolved in your stomach acids how do you not feel the cat tearing like scratching its way out if it was alive because like have you ever picked up a cat when like a dog runs by and it freaks out in your hands and jumps out and claws you yeah I don't think he swallowed it whole. Well, he ate it alive.

It said that he ate alive. Let me read this. He seized a live cat with his teeth, disemboweled it, sucked its blood, and ate it, leaving the bare skeleton only. Yeah. Jesus Christ. I don't think his mouth is big enough to swallow. I think it was. Because he could dislocate his jaw.

He could unhinge it like a snake. Blood letting? But didn't he say, so he disembowed it and then ate it? So it was like, he killed it for it. Yeah. It doesn't go into. a deep description of how he killed it. One time

he swallowed a live eel without chewing it, that probably definitely sloshed around in his stomach. Oh, a live eel, but that definitely wasn't the worst. Like, the live eel in your stomach, that just feels like down like a piece of spaghetti. I feel like the eel would just like figure its way out and just swim its way out your butthole.

Like go through your intestines. You're going to give someone the wrong idea. What do you mean? Some guys some guys be like, hey, what's the whole gerbil story? Oh, you're saying that that gay people will listen to this and they'll start No, no, no, no.

I think that that's necessarily that's literally what you're saying. No, no, that's, I'm saying there's some sick freaks who might have not thought of that and you just put it in their mind. Okay. Just guys that like butt play or girls, I don't know. Or girls that like butt play. Yep. And so dogs and cats used to see them and then run away.

Because word gets around. It was just like, you know, dogs have the thunders. third, like the sense of people, like if a dog doesn't like someone, they're a bad person, they just got huge, I will eat you wives. When he ate, he would blow up like a balloon, especially in his stomach region, but shortly after he would step into the bathroom and release nearly everything, leaving behind a mess that the surgeons described as fetid beyond all conception. Dude took the biggest shits in history.

We need to clone this, man. We need to find his body. We need to get the DNA. So that more babies get eaten? No, just like creating a lab and then just for content, just have it consume things on a live stream. Yeah, I mean, I would watch that. So he stanked to such a degree that he could not be endured within the distance of 20 paces. This poor guy.

Just smelled bad, ate everything. For all the, you know, I don't think this guy exists. For all the things people used to get killed for at this, in this time period, how did they let this guy run rampant? bit. Well, he was in the, he was in the military for a while. You know how many people get shot in the military for like disobedience? Yeah, but I mean, you also in the military, you have a lot of time to kill and having a dude that will eat anything is probably a good diversion for you, right? It's probably good for morale. You're like, yeah, I mean, it's, there's no different than elementary school lunchroom cafeteria. It's like, yo, this dude will eat anything. Watch this

say, hey, Tarar, eat this gun and you just like swallow a musket. They definitely fed, corpses on the battle. Was this the Napoleon? Did he fight in the Napoleonic? This was, they were at war with Prussia. Uh, and they said that Tarar's strange condition made him a perfect courier. General de Bohara ran an experiment. He would put

a document inside of a wooden box, had Tarar eat it, and then waited for it to pass through his body. Then he would have some poor unfortunate soldier cleaned through Tarar's mess and fish out the box to see if the document could still be read. It worked and Tarar was given his first mission.

disguised as a Prussian peasant, he was to sneak past enemy lines to deliver top secret message to a captured French colonel. The message would be hidden inside of a box, safely enclosed inside of his stomach. Oh my God. So he was like a pigeon. He was like a courier pigeon except a human. You think about what Terrar did behind enemy lines. You don't talk about war crimes and atrocities? Yeah. This is like, what do you think this guy did in Prussia? Well, and at the time, people in Prussia probably didn't know that much about French people and so if one person met Tarar they'd be like

the French are fucking insane they just go they'll eat your horse Tarar did not get far under this mission perhaps they should have expected that the man with sagging skin and a putrid stench that could be smelled from miles away would attract attention instantly and as this supposed

Prussian peasant couldn't speak German it didn't take long for the Prussians to figure out that Tarar was a French spy he was stripped searched whipped and tortured for the part of a day before he gave up the plot. In time, Tarar broke and told the Prussians about the secret message hiding in his stomach. So he was a snitch, too.

They changed him to a latrine and they waited. For hours, Tarara had to sit there with his guilt. Imagine what this guy's butthole was like. They're talking about his jaw. These guys definitely had a goatee type butthole. And he finally shitted out. The Prussian general found inside the box was a note that simply

asked the recipient to let them know if Tarara had delivered it successfully. General de Boharnay, it turned out, still didn't trust Tarar enough to send him off with any real information, smart general. The whole thing had been just another test. The Prussian general was so furious that he ordered Tarar to be hung. Once he calmed down, though, he felt a little pity for the flabby man, openly sobbing on his gallows. He had a change of heart and let Tarar go at the last minute back to the French lines, warning him with a quick thrashing never to try a stunt like this again. I'm mad?

I mean, the thing is, what realistically happened, his tarar was probably found in some farmhouse eating the chickens. And the farmer was like, what the fuck? Yeah. So that's when he begged, he begged his general, like, fix me. I can't live with this condition anymore. And then Tarar just didn't get fixed. And then he got hungry than ever.

The insatiable Tarar sought out other meals in the worst possible places. During one desperate fit of hunger, he was caught drinking the blood that had been removed from the hospital's patients and even eating some of the bodies in the morgue. and then yeah then he allegedly ate the baby after that human bloodletting fascinates me you know that's how uh george washington died oh really he had a sore throats and then they did blood letting until he literally died because they took too much blood i did not know that yeah and as someone i got blood taken today and i don't understand how people thought it made them feel healthier yeah just makes you lightheaded yeah you can get drunk way easier

I've been podcasting through with less blood today. This is my bloodletting game. Doing great. Like Jordan's flu game. This is my bloodletting game. You got less of that liquid gold flown through you. So during Tarrar's, during his autopsy, they found that his mouth and his esophagus was about a foot wide. What?

You could put a foot down his throat. dude this guy definitely swallowed a baby yeah this guy baby like think like a foot wide I mean I don't even think many birthing canals get that big so a baby would be the perfect size to throw down that gullet

you get 10 centimeters when you have a baby yeah that's four inches yeah this guy definitely ate that kid he ate the baby it's probably not his first time eating a baby either he probably ate a baby before yeah in Prussia yeah he definitely was behind enemy lines

it was like I'm so fucking hungry I don't look a baby so they they stopped the autopsy midway through because he smelled too bad but they learned that his condition was not in his mind he had a constant biological need to eat

every experience that he had in life had been dictated by the body that he'd been born with one that cursed him to a life of eternal hunger damn and that was from all that's interesting dot com that part right there that I just read about toar if you want to go check it out

so that shit's disturbing fan like imagine if that happens someone in today's age i'd take him to a golden corral we should reincarnate tarar just so he could like go ham at a Vegas buffet yeah oh god he would love the win yeah imagine if you got this guy high how much he could eat then do you think modern science could fix him his poor mom like when she was breastfeeding him as a baby he probably just didn't let go he probably just took the old tit yeah he's like give me yeah he probably tried to eat his mom yeah get all the milk in there shout out tarar glad i didn't live he would

have been the all-time worst random roommate to get as a college freshman try to eat you in the middle of the night yeah tarar no not again tarar tarar did you eat my yeah yep uh for more information about Torar. There's some good YouTube videos. Check out the lineup and history defined too, to read about Tarar. Can't say he wasn't prolific, though. Well, I agree and I disagree, Big T, because yes, he was prolific. The great ones go by one name. You know, one name. He's like Pele. LeBron, Pele, Terrar. Cher. Beyonce. Madonna. Yeah. I think he was prolific, but also, I'm shocked that we had never heard. heard of him. Yeah.

This was a long time ago. I feel like I would have heard about Tarar though. You know, you only die when the last person says your name. So we just brought Tarar back back to life. Well, that goes counter to what usually happens on this podcast. That's true. We haven't killed anybody for a while. We should start, bring. How's, uh, we should

have, what's our, what's our daily checking? Jimmy's still alive. He's still with us. It's because I made a prayer on part of my take. I'm going to count this. as a win. I'm going to count this as a win for Jimmy Carter because nobody goes into hospice and survives this long. Yeah. It's been like three, four weeks. Yeah. That's, no, sometimes you, when you go into hospice, when you first get admitted, you have an uptick in your, um, like how you feel. And it's like almost like a placebo effect. And then it's like, you have an uptick. And they're like,

wait, are they going to get better? And then, and then it goes. Well, maybe you just finally stopped building houses and his body was like, I've got another two years and you'll just chill. He's been out there building homes. He's 98. He's working construction out in the sun. I can get to 102 if you'll just sit down. His body was just helping so many people when the only thing it could help was itself. Just started helping itself.

Sometimes you got to take care of number one before you worry about everybody else. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Jimmy might he might pull through this. are you is that you know what fascinates me the people with Alzheimer's who are about to die that like like the day before they die they suddenly just get super lucid and sharp oh I've seen that happen yeah and they start talking to everybody and like they didn't know what was happening for like past like

three years but then all of a sudden like their families in the room and they just are just on par and they just like they start talking about their will and stuff and like talking to people and knowing who everybody is and recounting crazy memories and like That's got to be like the DMT. I've had that happen to my family and they don't have like an explanation for it. They think it's like just part of the process. But yeah, they like have this. They just start to remember everything.

Yeah, I bet people in hospice, people who work in hospice care say the crazy, like have the crazy story. Bro, hospice is nuts. If you work in hospice, shout out to you. You are our best person. Like you are our best people out there. My grandma was a hospice nurse. That's got to be the toughest job in the world. It seems like pretty not fun.

Because you like get connected to these people and then you just know that they're going to pass away. You get to experience like the most ups and downs of like all of human emotion with every single client that you have. They definitely hear about so many confessed murders and crimes. Like imagine like the old like the guy. They probably hear about like a lot of treasure too. Yeah, the Alzheimer dude and then all of a sudden he's about to die. and he just pops up and he's like, I'm D.B. Cooper. I jumped out of the plane. Like, it was me. And you're like, you're like looking around for someone else to hear this happening.

And then you just, if you're a hospice worker, do you have to, do you have the doctor patient confidentiality? I don't know. Because I would imagine that somebody, probably multiple people have been like, yeah, I killed Kennedy. And then what do you do with that information? Do you have to keep that quiet? I'm so going out and like saying some crazy shit and just like getting everyone to be like, yo, he did what? So basically how you live normal. Yes. Yeah.

Everyone's like, TB Cooper was my time frame. There'll be something that I'll confess you on my deathbed and pretend it was me. Thank you. Yeah. Do you have any hospice workers on your list? I actually think I do. I've heard that like hospice workers, though, if you're holding their hand while they're

dying, you can feel like a presence through your body as they die. I'm sure they're soul leaving. There's wild stuff that happens. I could never do anything like that. It's got to fuck you up. I mean, do people work in hospice for decades and decades? And then when they get into hospice, they like know what's going to happen.

Yeah. You have to just be, like, desensitized to it, I feel like. Yeah. That part of your brain has to just go away. Like, death just doesn't have that same choke hold on you. I feel like if you're already like a doctor. in a hospital you experience like death not to that extent but like often enough that you're like numb to it probably yeah I was actually I was on a train and I got placed in one of those seats that

have a table in the middle and you get you get assigned seats and the people across from us was this like very old couple and I was come back from Boston they sat next to us and like they saw they were in green and they the first thing they was starting to like talk to the conductor to get new seats because they're like and then I was like oh shit like you probably look like shitheads right now so I just started a conversation with them found out that this guy was an endocrinologist and then I had a ton of questions and we just started talking this is one of those conversations that I wish recorded in my brain I can make a podcast and we just started talking about all these different factors like stuff that he experienced as being like an endocrinologist for like 50 years

and like all of a sudden I was like asking him about this one case it was about this kid who had it was about like he started talking about this condition where you get a tumor at the base of your skull and that it's it's the most the worst thing ever because it just keeps growing back and then he just started bursting out crying and i was like whoa like he was like at the time i was just getting through every day but now thinking back about it like just hit me and i was like well like that guy wishes so hard that the conductor thought a different seat for no we actually had a great he we talked all the way back to new york and he he was How drunk were you?

I wasn't, I was, I had to record after I got off the train. Yeah, I, I, this, this, this, this, this man. No, this poor, this, this man had an amazing conversation. If we actually have his card. I also feel like, he gave me his card. I also feel like an endocrinologist, like the worst person to put in front of Billy, like, of all doctors. He's like, can I talk about my hormones with you? How do I optimize my?

Do you have any HGH on hand? Did this guy actually exist, Billy? Or was this like, this is a big minute, and imagine train ride back. No, no. it was actually it's pretty cool it basically we've described as like if you wrote the gambler by kenny rogers it's the rambler by billy football where he just he just screams facts that he learned on the joe rogan podcast to a doctor when he's hammered on the way back from st patrick's no this guy this guy was uh it was cool but uh yeah he was just he basically talked about

being a doctor and dealing with a lot of the day-to-day stress to his time when he was serving in korea and you made him cry well Well, he started, he was offering up all this information. And then he just was talking about this one case. And then he just started bursting out in tears. I was like, and I was looking around like, oh shit. This poor, this poor guy. No, but he was like, he wanted to talk to us.

Like, he, once he realized that we were cool, like, he like, he like, because I, I guess he did you buy him a beer? Uh, no, because he didn't drink. Did you ask? Uh, of course. No, I wasn't drinking on the train. Of course. I was so. So how did you know he doesn't drink?

Because he offered, he offered, he was talking about how, he was talking about how, he was about how different people react to alcohol, like, individually. And, like, it was, no, and he was like, I don't drink, but he was talking about, he brought it up. For some reason, he's talking about his father was on, like, his father was in advertising during the 50s. And like, I was like, oh, was like madman. He was like, yeah, he was, he had a table of scotch in his office and would be drinking by 10 a.m. once he got to work. And I was like, that's like a crazy different time. Like, how do you think that affected our endocrological system? We were talking about. epigenetics and how

are epigenetics. Epigenetics is like how you take care of yourself impacts the genes you pass on and how basically like maintaining your health like some of the genetic factors can be caused by like alcohol drug use and stuff and he was talking he doesn't drink because I don't know it was really cool. It's not nilk.

Yeah. Mad Dog is starting to approach like Hank levels of understanding Billy's lies seven steps before this wasn't a lie this was this this actual conversation I'm sure it's the beer part though what the beer part I just had to just double check

yeah no bad dog you're on the right track what I was just a bit confused on how you like you knew he didn't drink immediately because he was in the conversation that was something he devolved I know I'm I'm just asking questions I believe you fully we weren't drinking on the train that's fine you're such a liar we weren't we actually weren't you're okay I know you

whatever you weren't you weren't that morning yes that morning yes the four hour ride back I was trying to sleep at all you didn't have a single drink to take the edge off on the way back no all right okay but he admitted to drinking that morning so I believe him that he wasn't drinking out of time I don't know about that sometimes I feel like you want to make a bet I think I could prove it you want to see my credit card statement all my credit card statements from that four-hour period. I actually do want to see your credit card statement, but not for that reason. I just want to see it's just dog food and lizards.

Probably just chicken breasts. Anyway, in other news, I have a lot of Indian bots after me. Yeah. Yeah. Aaron, have you read up on the story that Billy's been blogging about recently? I have not. They care to enlighten him. This is a fascinating story, actually.

I heard, so I heard this story. about a guy who, and there's an update and I have to re-blog it, but there's a, there's this guy who's basically the most wanted man on earth right now. His name is, his name is, um, Amritsapal, sorry if I butcher this pronunciation. I've literally only read it. What if you just nail it though? Amritapal Singh. Okay. Uh, who basically the Indian government wants this guy bad. So in order to do that they shut down the internet in a state in India the size of Texas like

all those people are without internet and 70,000 police officers were tasked in finding this guy and he evaded all of them on a motorcycle were they all after him at once yes they did a big line I've ever seen

have you ever seen them Bollywood movies that'd be like hella dramatic as fuck they have this guy on video like basically hopping on the back of a motorcycle and evading police and like if you thought this is what originally brought me

interest in the story I was like this guy makes five stars on GTA look like child's play like he literally they shut down the internet in the entire state the size of Texas population and geographic wise so this guy I know nothing

about the backstory about why this guy's wanted yet but I'm saying if somebody were so wanted in America that they should shut down all the internet in New York, everybody in New York would be like, fuck that guy, arrest him immediately, right?

Yeah. But it sounds like in India, they're rooting for him. In the region, basically, he, depending on who you talk to, like,

some consider him a terrorist, some consider him an advocate. I'd put him in, you know, like, to get into the geopolitics of it, there's this region in India called Khalistan.

And he's basically leading the model. modern separatist movement of that movement, which has been going on for a long time. And basically, it's 100% the British's fault in the partition of India to Pakistan and India. There's a group of people, there's a religion called Sikhism, which a good majority of the population there. I think it's the plurality. You know, they're all Sikhs. And basically, they kind of want their own state because in the partition, you know, all the Muslims went to Pakistan.

the Hindus went to India and there's a ton of infighting because that and basically these guys have been kind of oppressed by the Indian government for a long time. They also may have been a group in retaliation for a ton of crackdowns on their separatist movement assassinated their prime minister at the time who was, her name was Indira Gandhi. Her security were made up of Sikhs, and they assassinated her in retaliation for basically a kind of a genocidal killing in Khalistan of the Sikhs. Indira Gandhi, not related to Mahatma Gandhi. Okay. That was crazy. All right. I always thought it was like his sister turns out like, and it's not even a rare name there.

I mean, it's not even like a popular name there. but kind of related by marriage to a cousin but yeah but anyway what happened was is this guy's escaped and I blogged it in all these Indian bots I was blogging it to talk about like how crazy was he escaped 70,000 cops and then all these Indian bots started like saying this guy's a terrorist you shouldn't be glorifying this

then that bunch of other Sikhs from you know the Sikh diaspora around the world a lot of you know, they had to leave because of the oppressive government. So there's like, you know, a ton everywhere. Sikhism also, a religion that, like, has super interested me from like when I was a really young age because after 9-11, unfortunately, Sikhs all have to wear part of their code is that the men have to wear turbans. So they became the target of a lot of Islamophobic attacks, which is really sad because, you know,

they were became targets out of something they had zero zero you know relation to especially like it was a whole other religion but and so one day a Sikh came into a father of a girl in my class came into class like talk about Sikhism and like you know to talk in it and basically one thing that like really would interest me is they had they all carry swords of some sort so it's like a young child was like whoa this is so cool these guys carry swords everywhere why doesn't my religion require me to carry a sword okay so i've been sort of the ideology behind the religion is really cool they consider themselves uh saint soldiers and like always fighting against oppression and like the underdog basically um but anyway this guy

the the crisis in punjab uh it's it's a it's a very interesting part of history and you know still continued on today but this guy there's sort of the indian government's been hitting him with a lot of like kind of the stuff that the CIA was hitting MLK with back in the day like accusations of um you know uh basically i don't know they're they're assassinating his personal life and stuff and but an update on this is he may have not actually still be on the run the Indian government might be like holding him hostage and saying he's on the run so that's embarrassing if they've got 70,000 people looking for the guy and they haven't caught him yet yeah so some people are saying that

he's actually captured and they're just saying he's on the run so that they can just harass Sikhs and like say is he hiding with you and then just detain more of them and say you have information where he is and just like harass all of them like is this guy actually real even he's just definitely real but a lot of protests across uh the world have been occurring in front of Indian uh where they called embassies by Sikhs because they're pissed that they're definitely like So are you are you in favor of this guy or against him? I mean I don't know sort of I'm I'm rooting for him yeah to escape I like I hope he's

on the run and not actually detained so that he could like escape yeah because I don't know this is like we're seeing history you know happen in real time and like this guy one day might be like revered as like a huge freedom fighter okay like a like a Gandhi or let's wait for all the facts to come out. Yeah. But it's it's kind of skeptical when you just as soon as I post the article, just a ton of bots just are rolling into my DMs and like Twitter mentions that like, but apparently it was explained to me that like the Indian government has bots that are like they pay them like five rupees an hour just like to if they see anything like this, just like hate mail it and report it. but it's a cool article read it it was one oh you know what's annoying

I wanted to take this article pretty seriously so I like you know like applied 100% of my brain to it but now everyone thinks I usually apply it what percentage well because I was writing it overnight so I knew that I didn't have to get it out quickly so like usually when I'm blogging

a story I'm trying to blog before anyone else so there's a lot of typos I'm just trying to get it out as fast as I can and yeah and but this one I like took my time with Yeah, rumors on the street were that you used chat GPT to write it. Yeah, you can put it through any sort of plagiarism checker. It's kind of annoying. There were not enough typos and people were like, this can't be Billy.

Yeah. Yeah. How would you check to see if it's made by chat people? There's a, they came, chat chbtee actually came out with a software and now all plagiarism checkers. News is out, plagiarism checkers now check for AI. So stop using them to write your college essays. is it like a hundred percent because like what if it's not and it's like you can tell you can I mean I would my grammar is actually pretty bad in some of these sentences you can absolutely tell

that it wasn't colleges have these big databases that they run them through and it scans to see if what you've written is appears anywhere else so they're saying that chat GPT would it's not everything that they do isn't an original yeah I mean well it's retrieving information from other places but I think it packages it slightly differently but they they said it wasn't in those at first but I guess Billy you said now it is yeah because if you wrote the code for chat GPT then you would know how chat GPT would structure its replies and you there's probably an algorithm that you could kind of reverse engineer and figure out okay this is written by our software yeah I think they said at the beginning

kids were like oh this isn't on like the plagiarism stuff that schools have but I guess now maybe it is I don't know hmm chat GPT my brother recently sent no go ahead you go off I was going to say my brother recently sent some in the group chat of uh it was actually Jordan Peterson and he was talking about threat of chat chbt gbt and I'm I'm still not 100% convinced it's like a threat I don't I don't really see it I know I I hear the arguments and how it has like learning software and stuff like that, but it's still code written by a human. You know what I mean? Like, it's, you can just turn it off.

I don't, I'm not, I'm not, I'm, maybe I don't understand enough about it. I'm definitely can concede that. But from what I know, I'm just not that concerned about it. The only thing I am concerned about, which I think there's a remedy for, is the deep fake videos. Like, those are actually having real world implications where I think it could be a problem. Whatever than that. From what I understand about AI and chat GPT, it's that if you keep optimizing it, it will then start to figure out how to learn on its own. And then once it starts to learn on its own, then its own power will increase exponentially.

And then at that point, it could get into some serious problems. It's funny because, like, Elon has said that the thing that keeps them up, late at night and makes them loose sleep is thinking about the implications of artificial intelligence and where it could take the world. Elon, just stop. You can just stop making artificial intelligence.

He's not making it. Microsoft's got it now. He is making artificial intelligence. For like autopilot and shit on Tesla. I think the argument was that's like, he's making it to like, I heard him say, I heard somebody say that he is making

AI. to combat AI from corporations. So he wants to make personalized AI that can ward off corporate AI. Can't that also lead to its own set of circumstances where your personal AI just... Yeah. I think we should just stop with AI.

The world's fine. Well, the things it'll definitely take everybody's jobs. It should be illegal to make AI. I'm okay with that, actually. what if that's the end goal if the end goal is to make AI have every job be done by some kind of mechanical or computer device that's actually dope if that's the end goal if we can have 3D printed you know houses so so humans never long have to do that labor machines can farm you know agriculture machines can do all of that shit where humans can

just like exist, I think that would actually be fire. I don't know if we're going to get there, though. No, I mean, I think the process to get there would be extremely powerful. Yeah, because if we started that process, then the people that would have the AI and have that capability on their side at first would be the rich and the powerful people. And they would make sure that their AI was optimized to them. And since the economy is a zero-sum game where we're not like, you know, wealth gets passed back and forth

it doesn't just get created somebody's losing right if somebody's winning at breaking news okay Chief Seaholic is currently on the run he's been issued a $1 million bond and he's removed his ankle monitor

okay so this is a lot like the the Sikh guy yeah so much different now we've got a five star alert on Chief Seaholic yeah the super fan should I go hunt him down no let the man live breaking bad style of a dog of a bounty hunter style let the man live no but back

to back to AI you know what I'm saying though like in the meantime before we get there people will be using AI to optimize their own lives and to a certain extent they wouldn't want that to be available to the masses because it's protecting them it's helping them out

I mean that's what happened with the internet but internet was used for the wealthy and the powerful in order to enhanced there and it still is in in a large regard can somebody tell me though like if we don't get to the place arian's talking about you're talking about like a utopia basically if we don't get to that place what is a i doing right now that's making our lives so much better i say pull the plug on a i unless a i is listening to this in the future in which case i'm on your side i a i

there is that element but before that happens there's going to be the thing is we're in a weird frictional place where basically we're going to have population collapse because no one's having

the rate that people are having kids now isn't going to be able to replace the labor force needed but also we still have people who are alive that need jobs so there will be a time when you know much of the world has the same

birth rates as developed countries. And at that time, AI will be essential. And the individuals who'll have higher standards of living and AI will be synchronized. But there are people whose jobs could be taken away today by AI. I actually, I was testing out AI and I was taking some of the old work I was doing a couple of summers ago when I was an intern at a commercial mortgage bank. and I was basically taking some of the emails I had with the certain decks and also spreadsheets and just telling it to do my intern work

and it was doing all of it. And it was doing it without a problem. No human error. And basically there's tons of overseas. There's some like overseas like basically where a lot of the formatting of, spreadsheets and slide decks is sent like in India by some of these banks that are totally going to get wiped out by this AI machine because it can do instead of these places investing in these centers that do some of this work and like for example like at the end of the day like at some of these banks they'll send it they say we'll send it to India and because of the 12 hour difference they get that's their work day and by the next morning they'll have all the decks they need to send to the client that whole thing that they pay millions of dollars to upkeep and educate and try. train individuals overseas is going to disappear because this one computer program can do all

their work way faster for the cost of electricity and depending on how much the program costs. So you're going to have a huge wiping out of jobs, not just in America overseas, like entry level jobs that, you know, where a lot of merit is found in the basis of our meritocracy. Now, all those jobs are going to go to people because of, nepotism because there's no other way to measure how well a guy works because of AI does all the you know the grunt work I guess what I'm asking is is it time to fight against the machines well I mean back in the day no it's not no you got work with them like everything is integrated already everything this fucking podcast has AI implementations the the algorithms that the all the

websites that we post the podcast on, use AI, banking, finance, maps. It's integrated. So it's about finding a way to work with it, not figure out how to destroy it because you don't want to go back to map. So implementing artificial intelligence, you've got truckers, right? Truckers, their one job is probably most likely to get taken over the fastest by AI because they drive long hours on interstates they uh the only cost is like the the human cost if you figure out a way to not pay truckers and just because truckers have to stop they have to sleep they have to eat all that stuff trucks could just go back and forth back and forth on a highway maybe there's like a guy sitting in a truck that you know takes it the last half mile or whatever after they get off the

interstate but for the most part the trucks could be automated go back and and forth, all those truckers are going to lose their jobs. What are they going to do in the meantime? That's the implementation is, it's one thing to say, okay, all these mortgage bankers out here, your job's going to be gone because of AI. Oh, yeah. It's another thing to have truckers and they're all kind of fired all at the same time. You think, and right now truckers, they're like the most powerful union still in America, where if the truckers wanted to, if they start losing their jobs to AI, they could just park their fucking trucks on the highway and stop all over interstate commerce if they wanted to.

Yeah, they could, the truckers, the truckers in Canada, like, totally shut shit down. If it wasn't for like the over, if it wasn't for the Canadian government taking steps that would never fly in the United States from a, um, constitutional level, they wouldn't have been able to stop them. I think that the truckers... Well, what industry, what industry that has been surpassed by technology is still in effect, like, of a path that you can think of? Like, what industry are we holding on to cars? Oh, I mean, like, to this day.

No, no, no, I thought you were talking about like, horses. We still use horses. They're... But horses are used in a large, in a lot of places, like, one for entertainment, but two for, like, moving cattle. like that's it for agriculture that's still umpires and baseball and so we could right tomorrow we could we could we could do robot umps we could and they'd be better than the umps that we have now i think they would thousand percent be better but i think that would take away from the game of there's an element of sports which i which i think will always have lean towards

the human error uh like we we like that aspect of human error but as far as like real world application as technology has has grown we have always gotten rid of the jobs that is no longer needed for labor intensive purposes if you're a fan of capitalism then this is a byproduct of it you're going to cut out the labor force in order to maximize profit that is just how capitalism works and so it's better if you're going to exist in this society it's better to uh work with it find innovate, subsidize workers and labor unions to ease that transition rather than to fight

it because it's inevitable. So I don't know how that transition happens without pissing off a lot of truck drivers who would probably join up together and just park their trucks and be like, you're not doing this to us. It's like the coal miners are all mad but their jobs have been dwindling, right?

Like it just, it's a part of society that is going to have. It's going to have. The one thing, one of the things that Andrew Yang got right like we need to start thinking about that transition because it's going to happen like 3D printing like all this shit it's it's it's going to happen what if we just agree to stop what if we're like okay AI's gone far enough we're good appreciate you who want to agree with you I don't know maybe maybe there'll be a couple people out there that agree with me I think most

normal people agree with you you think so yes like it's time to stop well this this isn't the first time in history. No. You don't think that most everyday Americans see all this stuff about AI and they're like, I'm good on that. Well, I think either they don't understand AI or they haven't really looked into it. So it's like AI is not just a random chat machine growing and learning. AI is also your banking. It's your, it's due, your web browsing. It's your social media, it's, it's agriculture, the way they use and, in, in, in, and, in, and, in, it's business. It's, it's, it's every. Is a calculator? You're talking about like degrees of AI. So like a calculator is AI. Generative AI, I think is what we're talking about. I believe

that's the, what it, what I said, it depends on what you're talking about. And so I think the majority of people, yeah, don't want an I robot situation. Yes. But as far as integrating artificial intelligence with the labor market, that's going to happen regardless of whether the majority of people want it or not. But even the people that I would argue don't, I would argue that even if they don't want it, they enjoy the byproduct of it because it eases their life. It makes their life a little bit more easy. I'm anti-AI, I think. So this actually, I'm arian, I'm surprised.

I'm going to perch on my hill of ignorance until somebody convinces me otherwise. And I might be just being very ignorant about it. But I feel like the people that are implementing these changes are doing it because they're like, well, if I don't do it, somebody else will. That's exactly what I'm saying. It's a byproduct of the system that we live in. It's a competition-driven market. So it's like if I don't maximize my profits, another company in my, in my demographic will

and I'll lose that on that capital. So, Aaron, I'm surprised that you're taking this stance because what stands am I taking? We need to

intertwine with technology from a, from a, because have you ever heard of the, the Luddites? The Luddites in England? I have, yeah. It's in a lot of labor study classes.

Yeah, and people call themselves Luddites or they refer to other people as Luddites if they're anti-technology. Yeah. So, well it's sort of there are like communist elements to it but basically it was about um a radical faction that destroyed textile machinery in england because they knew that a lot of the new

technology would take their jobs and threaten their livelihoods so i think we're going to have probably the biggest technological revolution when it comes to AI very soon and it's going to be almost like a second industrial revolution something that we haven't even seen before like Dave Chappelle had a bit about how he once met Steve Jobs when he had the first iPhone in his pocket and he wishes he went back in time and destroyed that thing because it he you know it's social media it's like quote unquote ruin the world

it's ruined a couple things was actually improved a lot of other things but we're going to have that where we're going to look at this moment and then you know when all of these jobs because look the U.S. is an information economy. We don't have as much manual. If you were to go back in time, Arian, and you saw Steve Jobs with the iPhone,

would you destroy it? No. Absolutely. I tell him to stop eating fruit. I think it's part of why he died. He was like a fruititarian or something like that. But I think it's done a lot of good. Like, I think it's, it's you know

with anything that makes such a big way there's going to be negative aspects to it and so I think that it has absolutely had some harms but I think the net benefit for you know having the

wealth of information at your fingertips is going to eventually be a net positive I believe in my opinion I think selfishly you know what I really like about the biggest impact that the iPhone I probably actually wouldn't have a career if it weren't for the iPhone so never mind yeah Steve Jobs go

ahead create that thing but besides that the thing that I use an iPhone for most frequently like what would be the biggest pain in the ass if you don't have a phone traveling to a new city and getting around people just like you had to ask for directions and shit you'd have to like write down ahead of time what hotel you were staying at hail a cab remember the address all that stuff that must have been big pain in the ass to get around anywhere the worse like meeting meeting somebody we haven't we talked about it before like meeting somebody in a crowded area like hey i'll meet you at the movies meet me by the sign by the yeah like every like every episode of Seinfeld that's what if you want to know what life was like

before the iPhone just go watch Seinfeld and all the miscommunications that they have if two people on that phone had a or on that show had a phone then they could have solved all their problems instantly and then we never got in Seinfeld though all right I've actually still never watched this

you've never watched Seinfeld you should watch I think I watched like two three episodes and it just never stuck with me so I never dug in it's kind of I bet a white America or two America's moment well yeah everybody on that show

was white. Like, I feel like that might deterrarian. Who the new Framer was mad fucking racist. That was, that's such an uncomfortable video to watch when he's at. That was one of the wildest rants I've ever seen in my life, dog. Holy shit. And then, and then he went on the David Letterman show. Oh yeah.

What did you say? I made it worse. Well, what made it worse? Seinfeld was trying to like ease him into the, And then the crowd was, because they're so used to seeing Seinfeld be funny that it was laughing at him. He's like, it's not funny, guys. Yeah. Because they expect, you're right, they're used to laughing at a bit between Jerry and Kramer and they see the two of them having like a very, very like somber conversation and everyone's just like laughing nervously or whatever the case was.

It was, yeah, it's very awkward to watch that. What was their excuse for him? What exactly happened? I forget. I don't. That's hilarious. He's a laugh factor. I think they said that like Kramer does a very or Michael Richards does a very intense type of stand-up comedy and he's an intense human being and he gets lost and whatever character he's doing on stage. I think that's kind of the route that they took with it. But I don't, there's really no good explanation for it. I also saw a video of Seinfeld and

Chris Rock and Louis C.K. where they're sitting around talking about comedy and louis k is just using the n-word and calling himself the n-word and chris rock is like laughing at and jerry's like i don't think that i don't think that you can say that and then chris rock is like no it's fine like louis can louis can say that he's got a pass and and juries like uh i don't know about that yeah louis k has been known to like push that boundary and I'm not a fan of it. He is Mexican. But Teague is on.

The fuck is that. Is he? That was a bad joke. It was it like Canelo? Yeah, Louis K. is another ginger Mexican. Oh, I didn't know that. I thought he was Polish.

He was born in Mexico. Oh. Oh. Okay. I'm not saying that gives him paths by any means, but. Jack off in front of people. I mean, Louis Kays is. Louis Kays was born in Washington, D.C.

Wait, wait. Mexican. It's really, really close to me. Same thing. Really close. There is a Louis C.K. Mexico connection. Okay. Okay. His nationality is American dash Mexican. Yeah. Born in D.C. though.

His father is of Mexican and Hungarian Jewish descent. Hungarian Jewish descent. Yeah. I don't think anybody would mistake him for me. No. He does not pass his Mexican. oh he moved to he moved to mexico when he was an infant yeah all right well yeah still still i don't

yeah no 100 shouldn't be saying that at all uh all right well good episode of nanodosing yeah it was like an hour 40 shout out to rar no man he's a cannibal it's not his fault if you were born into tarar's body in friends you'd be eating babies too I mean, I mean, you know, I would find a oversaturated population of animals or dogs and eat them. Would you still shout me out? For eating dogs? No. Yeah.

Eat all the babies you want. See, that's crazy. I think that's my bigger underlying point about dogs is people love dogs more than people. And that shit's a problem. But anyway, I digress. I'm not saying, like, it's not his fault. I mean, I'm not saying it is his fault. it is actually you know it's a chemical thing that that man was unfortunately born with

i'm just not shouting out a cannibal that's fair should i go hunt chiefsaholic yeah go for it billy can i have permission can i have funding just a plane ticket i already found a bounty hunter are you are you are you yeah i found a bounty hunter who will take me with him uh can i go yep is that cool yep sweet can i have a camera guy too uh you're gonna have to talk to hang about Okay. Yeah. Let me talk to Hank. All right. We'll see you guys on Thursday's show. Love you guys.