Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - The Idaho Murders

Episode Date: January 5, 2023

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the crew is BACK from break to talk about the recent disturbing murders of four University of Idaho students (1:14:59). Everything from the initial reports/tiktok investigations to the current suspect Bryan Kohberger. You'll hear it all. Also, some listener voicemails at the end. All this and so much more on today's show. Enjoy!You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon music. No, girlfriends only. Sidepiece? Side piece. My parents are coming. Nice. Like, if you want your, like if your mom wants to come. Yeah.

Let me know. Mr. and Mrs. Dog. Mm-hmm. I mean, you don't got to bring Mr. Dog. Wow. We recording? Yep, we're starting like that. Oh, shit, man, nah

No, no, I don't have a sidepiece Billy, you look like Jim Carrey on me, myself, and Irene that's the cut you got right now I think he looks good He looks like a cop Everybody needs a cop I don't have a flat top

It's a cop it's a cop from this angle Flat top though You look like a good clean cut kid From the 1960s Yeah, I get Billy look at me real quick You still have those shady hair aviators.

I want to make sure I'm not going crazy. What? I'll send it to you all in a second. Bill looks like he's at a high school dance and they start playing a fast song. He's like, what is this music? The twist. They're playing the twist. Yeah.

Have you guys not seen with his haircut yet? Why are my hips moving? Like a greaser. You remember greaser? Yeah. Roll over your sleeves. When is 1950? 50 shit coming back in the fashion.

I feel like that's a decade that we haven't seen come back. This year, I think, is going to be the summer of, of like late 80s, maybe early 90s, like neon shit. Neon shit's happening. I was raggy shit starting to come back. No, that was the LMAFA. No, neon's coming back. I was a year earlier.

I predicted it last year because the Barbie thing, but Barbie's coming out this summer. I was mistaken. What's up, Avery? Look what Biggie just said. That's fucked up. But you do, right? That's no, no, look at different angles of him. That is fucked up.

He looks like that's not at all. That he has a, no, no. Yeah, in this picture, there's. No, no, no, no, not at all. So, no, he looks like, he looks like fucking always sunny. Okay, so that's who he looks like. So today's episode is going to be about the, uh, the Idaho murders. And, um, it's a, it's like a tricky thing to talk about because it's happening right now.

Yeah. Um, but there's also like a lot of weird stuff that's going on with it that, that, a lot of people have been discussing so we're going to discuss it today and big tea just in a picture of billy to group chat alongside the person who's the accused murderer that they apprehended uh late last week they don't look dissimilar they he looks like glen howerton he does not look like me we have a much different facial structure maybe a similar haircut there's a little bit of similarity there no actually probably if you had it you'd probably look more like there's billy lashing out i'm not actually you're the you're you're the one that looks like not me

I don't think I looked like him at all. It was just an observation. Yeah. Listen, it's a new year. Let's not get off to an acrimonious start. You guys like that word. That was very, I was very verbose. You guys like that word.

You know, Big T, I'd like you to apologize to Billy. Billy, I apologize for saying you look like the accused, even though you do look a little bit like that. You know what? He went out of the way to say accused. That's what he is. That's a good apology. Yeah.

Billy, do you accept this ball? Fuck that. Bring back to Billy Big Tee beef. I'm full. Let's go. Wrap that shit up, Billy. He just called you a murderer. No, no.

No. No, it's not. That was a rough time. That was a rough time. Tensions were high. They like kept going after the episode. Yeah. Like that was one of the clips in the best of 20203.

That was after the episode was done recording. Big T just kept staring at Billy. And Billy's like, what the fuck you staring at? I like how We're on to better things in 2020 Our best of is like Just us getting into fights with each other Yeah

Look how good this podcast is Fuck you Billy Go fuck you big tis I'll rape your body Yeah well He did say that He did say that Those were not the term

He did say that He did say that He did say that No He'll kill you in aspects with the corpse Yes That's what I said He did say that

I assume a dead body Cannot consent Bad subject to bring that up on. But he did say that. Andy Bernard in the office, and he's like, I'm cutting his head off with a chainsaw. Welcome to 2023.

New year, new us, new macro dosing. We're back. A lot of people were upset that there was no nanodosing earlier this week. To them,

I say, fuck you kindly. No, I say thank you for, for missing the podcast while it's gone. But the office was closed, and so it was not easy

to get everybody together. So we said, you know what? Let's just, let's push it off and we will just do a normal show this week. So a lot of people talking about podcast rankings and stuff this week. I saw a lot of end of the year podcast rankings. Usually a good rule of thumb is if somebody is flexing about how good their podcast is doing and where it's at, they're usually just trying to make up for something. The real ones don't have to flex their muscles. But what I have learned through doing part of my take is occasionally it's just good to drop your not. nuts on people. So last month, I think, was that her biggest month ever?

Yep. Across all platforms. Yep. Tier one. Doing big stuff. I don't know how many podcasts are there in tier one here. I think maybe six. Five or six?

Top six podcast. Yeah. Barstool Sports. We're among somewhere in the top six. Yep. We'll let you figure out. Not six. We'll let you figure out where that is when I say top six.

It's like Darren Revell being like I own over nine, nine pieces of MLK. memorabilia. All time clip. Guess how many that would be. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Let's start fighting again. Yeah.

So, okay, so here's what we have to do. We have to figure out a beef because beef puts asses and seats. I think mad dogs should get into a fight with Aryan. What? Because then we get, we get all the Arian Foster fans out there and we get the Mad Dog simps going at each other in a big online war.

Okay. I think, I think that's part of the. in diagram, though. I don't think we want them to beef him, man. I think my dog, we got nothing. We got nothing, man. You just said that you wanted her mom to come to the podcast solo.

No, that was a request. I mean, Mrs. Joe did once, you know. My mom is very excited. My mom is very excited to reunite with Aryan. She did say that. And all of them. I knew who was on me. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

What can, what would Aryan and I even beef about? Oh, I made a TikTok about him. a couple weeks ago and he hasn't mentioned it. Oh, wow. I'm not on TikTok. Do you not appreciate the work that Mad Dog puts in for you? No, it was on the macro account.

But it was like Brandon Walker talking about, you know, what's a athlete that if they had a second chance on their career would be like way bigger. And I was like, this guy, Arian Foster, like he just had a little bit better hands and like maybe not as many injuries. Like, who knows what he was up there? I didn't even see that underhead of slight though. And then I was like, I wonder what, and I was like, wonder what the dude's up to now? And then trying to make a joke.

And then someone's like, I think he's doing a shitty barstow podcast. And I was like, I can't tell him this is satire or top six. You should have said top six, bitch. Yeah, top six, tier one bitch. You know what's nice. Remember that viral, I think it was a TikTok of a girlfriend talking about her boyfriend scrolling through his Twitter mentions his Twitter timeline

before a flight so that he has content to read during the flight loaded and then at one point I think it stopped a picture of a macrodosing and what was awesome was what's crazy about the internet

is you see more as someone as a content creator you tend to see more negativity because of just psychology of humans negativity gets directed towards you about content most happy people don't say anything yes uh but was great is when people saw in that viral tweet and tic-tok macrodosing it was just like

oh you listen to macrodosing too it was just like like positivity and that was just great to see it was very cool like i i got tagged into the ton for the macrodosing count saw it when it had like 5,000 likes and i went through and i found everyone that commented like macrodosing macrodosing and then i hit like 10 million views or something crazy and i was like oh my god there's so many people like you've I for based on the things I say on the show I forget that actual people listen to this sometimes yeah and so I was like oh my god it's like in the wild yeah and people who just like in the wild is it I was just gonna say I don't want to derail but I was curious about that claim is that claim true happy people don't say anything yeah I mean think

about it when people are angry they're more likely to like like you're like oh I'm angry I'm gonna like so for example at the end of the episode sometimes I've noticed this like there's each like uh people get angry at the other so like for example if big t and arian get to an argument i like kind of look at it and you just see the negative comments towards big t or the negative comments towards arian whereas those same people are less likely to comment nice things about big t or nice things about arian instead of like being like big t i really liked your point to arian uh blah blah that person is instead more likely to be like fuck you arian like your take was terrible

Jesus like you know like something and that's just something you got to be like in this industry you got to try to get your EQ pretty high because it can be tough but like that's the sort of stuff that's like just great to see your EQ what's EQ emotional intelligence

emotional quotient I don't even know no I think Billy's right about that there there are a lot of unhappy people out there if you I've been seeing um I put up a tweet the other day where I was talking about the NFL and the Damar situation, DeMahamlin situation.

And I'm still getting replies to that tweet. And some people are like upset that I pointed out that they were going to restart the game before the coaches stepped in and rightfully so, I think, put it on pause. But there's, once every like couple hours, I'll read a reply that's very negative about what I said. And then I'll look at that person's profile.

And they're just, they love to be, upset online and they're just their timeline just full of them replying to people that they don't like telling them to like go fuck themselves. I think those people it's sometimes important to remember those people are like probably going through something in their own life that's making them very upset.

So and it took it takes you a while to be able to like let those negative comments kind of wash off your back but once you reach that point man it is nice. I know Big T's big T will just block a shit out of you. Yeah like who cares. Yeah. I think that's a very EQ. Is that right Billy?

Yeah. You have high EQ being able to do that and not care. When I was saying, so like I've actually noticed when there's more hate, it's usually, there's like seasonal, I think, implications. So for example, over the holidays was a big hate time. So all the angry people were commenting on their phones because they're either unhappy in, you know, family situations, holiday situations. Spending too much time to family. Yeah. Instead of, you know, being present. So that was something very interesting that I've been looking.

at. I wish I could like put a chart to it and show the trends. Also I think January and February are going to be some some high high anxiety months you think? Yeah, high hate. A lot of seasonal depression. People don't talk about that like when during when they stormed the Capitol they were probably just sad because of the seasons. Just chilly. Summer. So this summer or no haters. No haters they would not have stormed the Capitol if it was hot outside. Yeah. Everybody's too busy being on a beach having a novelty drink. Yeah. It's like oh I'm sorry I'm drinking a, uh, uh, blue lagoon down at margaritaville i don't really have the time to force the hands of government so actually this january it was either dry january or no storming government buildings uh and

we'll find out on friday whether uh storming government buildings or drinking so storm a post office yeah fuck i'm doing dry january are you yeah does that mean no no that's just like you're poor choice yeah i did quit one vice oh got it i'm doing pretty much dry january i'm going to basically basically dry January. Well, I had one drink last night. And then I've got a wedding I'm going to this weekend. So then I've got the rehearsal dinner on Friday. But you go to more weddings than I've ever that's wild. My friends are horny. I'm convinced people in the north get there's there's way more weddings or people just go to weddings of people they don't know as well. Every weekend people I know go to weddings. It's outrageous. Bigger weddings? I don't know. I've never been to one up here. But

like every weekend someone I know is going to someone's wedding yeah you don't realize that when you're in college and when you get out you you spend the back half of your 20s and most of your 30s spending all of your extra money on buying flights and going to weddings I'm so excited that's pretty much what life becomes what once you hit shower hours and shit I bought a baby shower from my homeboy I'm not a baby shot a baby um what can they call baby carsey you bought a baby oh carsey uh no billy you always on that epstein shit shit man wait did you get

did you like show up to your friend's house and you're like did your friend who's a guy have a baby shower no of course he didn't it's never for the guy it's always for the girl and the baby right and so his lady was and I forgot right so we all sitting there

and this is like the females responsibility like when you go to a baby shower and it's your dudes like it's rare that you remember to bring a gift for the baby shower right so they know that and so like they had a registry ready already and so I just I hit them with the Amazon link so that's nice yeah um are you going to do dry January or anything like that area uh no I mean I dig the alliteration but um I'm straight

yeah I'm not doing dry January I'm doing I'm not going to have any drinks during the week except for last night that ooh I'm doing no drink during the week except during our live show um yeah I have to drive for the live show you don't have to I I'm trying to keep, I'm going to see how long it can go. I'm going to go past January, see how long it can be. Yeah, I'm doing jacked January. Oh, I like that. I'm trying to get into Super Bowl abs by cutting out alcohol.

I'm going to do tanuary. I'm going to get super, super bronze. Are you going to do it naturally or unnaturally? No, I'm not actually going to tan up. Actually, now I might hold it to it. Hand down, tan down. No, I'm not going to get tan. Okay, did you want to play odds?

If you lose odds, you have to get bronzered. I went to, well, I do have a wedding. I got to look at my best this weekend. I have self-taned. or we can bring in. No, I don't think I'm going to do that. Spray or UV. I did go hand up.

I went to a tanning bed like five years ago, six years ago. I remember we were taping a show here at Barstall with Liz. And she had these bright-ass white lights that made my skin look translucent. And she was like, you really, you really need some color on your skin right now because you look awful. And so I went to the tanning bed. I laid down. And then my skin just started like it got so dry and crispy.

It sucked. I hated it. We should do Zanuary, just a lot of Xanax. I like that, yeah. No Zanz. Wasn't that no Zans 2016? Like our generation just stopped doing Zans in 2016. Oh, no.

Bring back Zanz. No, we're not bringing back Zans. Everyone was dying. No, I mean, I don't drink much during the week anyways. Like, very rarely do I, do I have anything to drink? But I do think that I'll make an effort to not have a drink during the week with the exception of the rehearsal dinner. that I've got to go to the live show and we're done

with Monday night. Oh, yeah, there's going to be Monday night playoff games. So I'll probably have a beer during those. But besides that, no drinking during the week during January. Is Friday a weekday? Friday after five. Yeah. That's a good question. I'm glad that we're on that. We can do Friday after five.

Yeah. I'm just collectively as a society I'm like you know, have you heard that movement they're trying to air but like three day weekend like just for good like from now on. I like it. that should be a thing man we spend too much time working like people people need to be happy man they don't ease the tensions you know what I mean four days is a lot three just relaxed though everybody relax robots don't stop working though that's who we're competing with have you guys seen the McDonald's that are fully automated I have yeah yeah so that's that's why that's

why the you know I'm just going to say it I don't think I'm not going to eat at those I will not eat at those because not that I'm trying to make a stance one way or the other I like when a human being puts together my sandwich. I think it tastes better. You know what? I'm not going to be biased

against the robot cook, man. I'm gonna try it. I got to try. I mean, because this is what you're saying right now. You're saying the human being makes it better. Yeah. There's no love. I don't know. There's definitely no love that the human being making that shit. There's no love at McDonald's, dude. I mean, but think about that as an

you don't have to pay like benefits labor costs you just have cool capitalism so laid off a bunch people bunch of people out a job so i know i love it no i'm just saying really saying learn to code so that you can you can invent the robot no but i mean it's crazy like if you just own something that it's just almost a money printing machine yeah i'm going through a conundrum right now when it comes to and that's what mcdonalds needs yeah more money yep Well, if you're a franchisee owner, that's a very hard club to get into McDonald's franchisee. I don't think it is. Isn't it like, it's like, it's like, forgive me wrong.

I looked this up once. It's like $2 million or something like that? It's not like crazy. I may have gotten that wrong. Oh, no, you know what? You're totally wrong. I can be wrong. You're totally right.

Dunkin' Donuts is the one that it's impossible to become a franchise owner of. Well, I know Chick-fil-A is like crazy. I think it only costs like 10 grand, but you have to go through all sorts of classes and interviews and like it's impossible. They reject so many people. The McDonald's Hamburg University is the one that it's harder to get into that than it is to get into Harvard.

There was a... Really? Yeah, that's for franchisees. So that's like if you're a McDonald's franchise owner and you want to become like the best of the best, they'll send you to Hamburg University. And then they give you like all the knowledge, and all the resources to make sure

that you will become like massively wealthy and open up a bunch of different stores, but they take like 1% of 1% of people that apply. There was a football coach that was... Berger University. Yep. I think he was the offensive coordinator at the University of Houston

and quit coaching because he got picked to be a Chick-fil-A franchise owner. I remember that, yeah, yeah. And I mean, that's what he wanted to do. Prince money. Yep. Aaron, do you don't own any franchises? nah man i have no

desire i know it's a big thing amongst uh like just because it's a great asset that's why papa johns is such good friends with peyton manning like shack because it's a great asset to own yeah i'm going through a struggle right now with my my lunch today from a franchise i ordered from kava again as i do eating at kava like 90% of my meals in this year

and I accidentally ordered it for 1pm for for pickup not even delivery so right now my meal is just sitting on the shelves in kava my lunch is just there so what should I do about that get spider to go get it I could or I could just like tweet out like there's a free meal at kava if anybody wants it that's kind of lit should I do that but then I like it you might have like a storming the cal the kava storming the kava yeah that's a good point Oh, we should storm something. No. No, Billy has to storm something. How about this, Billy? I missed out last time. Let's storm the New York Public Library and read.

No, because, dude, I, I honestly, I'm more scared of a librarian than anybody guarding a government building. Like a shh. Getting shush. Yeah. If they had, if they had a few librarians that were mixed in with the Capitol Police on January 6th, and they were just like, people trying to work in here they're passing a vote I bet you people would have just been like

oh sorry my mistake I have a weird fear of librarians but I'm actually I respect anyone who's trying to up their knowledge independently let's explore that why do you fear librarians because I've been shushed many a time by librarians

yeah I believe that I can see it that checks out yeah playing games on the computers yeah Billy. What was your favorite mini clip game? Oh, this one is rare.

I don't know if anyone can find anymore, but on the run was my favorite. I don't remember that one. FFX runner. I've actually tried to download it to play it, but I actually think the government got rid of the flash player on browser games because they wanted to increase worker productivity, but that's a conspiracy for another time. I'm on it, I think. Because we use, you can't play games on browsers anymore. I'm on an ad. Hang on.

I'll tell you in a second. I think it literally like every, they deleted the flash player. Yeah. Like it's kind of BS. There's no more flash games. There's, there's app games.

I don't know, big, big Apple, big app store, killed the flash player. We just got an email. I want to talk about this on the air because I think that the listeners will appreciate

what goes on behind the scenes here. We're already being asked. to submit designs for St. Patrick's Day merchandise here at Macrodosing. Let's design one. I think we got to put out like an Irish rule the world. Like, you know, the Irish conspiracy that we came up with, that Irish

control the media. They control all the money, all the banks. I don't do. Like a giant, a giant leprechaun sitting on top of the, of the globe. Yeah, I like it. Yeah. And like gold

coins and rainbow shooting out of his pockets. Fuck yeah. I still get tons of hate make a big tea make a big tea big red head can't that's not it yeah or how about i don't have red hair we can do one that's just uh the the why did no the potato famine wasn't really dude i've been getting tons still it went some reddit group of irish people got load of that clip and just no context don't know what barsall is don't know what we do and was just coming after me and just like still to this day and i had to explain to that of like I'm not anti-Irish speaking of other nationalities I watched my cousin Vinnie

oh this is big um I would have been entertained by that movie in 1992 okay it was a little old for my taste but if in 92 I would have enjoyed that movie I didn't hate it it's funny right yeah it was good I I liked the ending you had a mix of the southern culture the New York Guidos. Yeah, I liked the like grits came into play in the courtroom and Grits. It was hard. Yeah, it was a good movie. Yeah. But it also

didn't have like the mob shit. Like, that's what I was talking about that I don't like. I like the mob stuff. Yeah. So like that. So that wasn't really The two Utes. Yeah. That's good. It's classic. Good movie. Uh, all right. So I'm glad that that's, that's what I was saying, Big T. It's like not, um,

It's not a mob movie, but it's a good introduction to realizing that Joe Pesci can be a good actor. It's a good movie. We got to figure out what the second one would be. Big T. What's your middle initial? Why? Just wondering.

Wait, was that your answer? No, that was W-H-Y. Okay. W. Oh, he was asking if I was replying with that or why. We're asking why you wanted to know. That is W-H-Y. I was like, wait.

what is it why do you want to know because you know like organized crime and there's a jfk and there's an rfk and now there is a c it's not f what was it it doesn't matter okay well then there's a c something k who also doesn't like ornize cream so just like watch out it seems like a w i guess it is in my it's in my uh it's in my twitter at oh it h yeah conor h yeah so jfk rfk and c hk got it not fans of organized crime c hk doesn't give is on have the same pizzazz as the other one as a kid as a kid i wanted uh to be called chuck for a period of time because my initials kind of look like chuck i can call you chuck no it's too late it's too late i like that chuck uh your initials are i think it's chesapee energy stock

really just that the energy yeah is that the thunder arena sponsor still i don't know if it still is or not, I know that that was Aubrey McClendon's company and he drove his SUV into the side of a bridge when he was about to be under federal indictment. Okay. Yeah. Let's do it. Let's do

everybody's initial stocks and put it on a little grab. That's just from there. What if we start like a fund that's just the stocks of our initials and they just skyrockets? I don't think mine is kind of fire.

Mine is on the up and up right now. what's yours apollo tactical income fund that sounds that sounds dangerous that sounds like military sounds like a complex sounds like it's winning us mine's expensive what is yours mine so mine's MMC and it's marsh and mcclennon companies and it's a global professional services firm an insurance brokerage risk management reinsurance services i don't know what that means we're going be rich. But it's $169 a share and it's up 3%. Mine doesn't exist.

Yeah, mine's a $1.31 a share. I'm not giving you guys that much here. This Martian McLennan is about as volatile as you can get if you go look at the year to date, or not year to date, the one year. I'm looking

at the NASDAQ. Mine's at 12 right now. Oh, yeah. Bounces up and down. The McClendon one does. Is it in a dip right now? No, it's on an upswing. Okay. Actually, I guess it's not moving that much. These numbers, the Y axis is skewed.

You got to zoom out. It starts at 140. So it's fine. It's fine. I might go invest in it. I don't know how to invest. I might go invest in. I've lost an embarrassingly large amount in the stock market.

Isn't that like your major? No. Wait, what's an embarrassing large amount? It's just I thought I put. into very conservative places but since i put it in the market was way overvalued and now it is i guess under i would love to hear i would love to hear what you thought was a conservative place go ahead shoot uh let me look up the exact but a lot of wrong feeder a lot of it was vanguard accounts just like just like uh large etfs and whatnot that are just multiple like the whole stock market combined

I just don't know what to do. I don't know. Playing the field. Playing the field. But playing the field usually is lucrative, but you got to take the ups and downs with it, right? Yeah. So it's like usually, I think like shit since the, I'll quote me on it. So I think since like the depression, uh, the market has yielded.

I think like five to eight percent, like you just ride it out. Yeah. Yeah. You're, you're never down until you sell. That's what all the really bad people at stock trading will tell you. Yeah. Don't you just wait till it comes back up? Yeah, you just got to wait.

You just got a whole. got a huddle or hold yeah so everyone's being like the the sound advice is to put more money in now that it's undervalued from when i started but the thing is what if that money just goes right away like when it started so you know i think there's something you just learn with time anyway that was stock you're not going to you're not going to learn that no like nobody's like you're listening to people explaining the stock market that are in the stock market they're like we don't really understand that shit like that. It's just a bunch of odds and

it's just gambling. I don't understand that shit. They're just gambling and can write off the losses on their taxes. That's the difference. And now that that shit. Dog, did you see that report that came out? They did a breakdown of all

of the senators. Every senator, every member of Congress that beat the market in last year's fiscal year. She was insane. How many people beat the market? Like, they're just the greatest traders of all time on top of running the country, bro.

She does hilarious. I mean, they have, like, you know, all their salaries are, I think, under 200K. Yeah. But they're just, they're really getting paid in secrets and insider trading. That's just supposed to be illegal. Like Nancy Pelosi's net worth is like, what, like 120 or almost 200 or something? No, no. Her husband's the one who really gets it done with the stocks.

Yeah, Nancy's on the up and up. she's she's clean her husband is just like very very lucky in terms of every trade that he's ever made in his entire life and because you can't testify against your spouse i'm pretty sure that's is that true i think there's something like that that seems like something that i've seen in movies that that if you really explore probably would not be true i think it's true it sounds cool yeah doesn't sound like it's like what would you what if you're in any crime no no i think like in certain investigations under the federal rules of of evidence in a criminal case, the prosecution cannot compel the defendant's spouse to testify

against them. Because pillow talk. So wait, that's federal. I don't know if that only applies to federal crimes. It says the federal rules of evidence. Okay. But that would be a, yeah, it sounds like a federal. And I think federal law.

Insider trading is a federal offense. It might be. It's SEC investigated federal offense. I know that you can, you can testify against them, but the government cannot make you. Yeah. That's, that's what I mean. So it's like the fifth, like pleading the fifth. Like, so it's like,

if they're probably guilty and you have corroborating evidence they're about to get you. You can be like, I don't know shit, though. It's like, Nancy, did you tell your husband to invest in that, was it, in via? That chip company?

Did you tell them to invest in Invia before you visited Taiwan to make sure China didn't invade and we put all those factories there? No, I didn't. I mean, no, I won't tell you because I won't testify against my husband. boom yeah

they're a lot of crooks a lot of crooks out there and now that nancy's no longer speaker who's going to be speaker do we know it's not kevin mccarthy no it's it's uh it's um vote on it's it's some w ef leadership committee member i think McCarthy

wait the world economic forum is going to be speaker of the house who pulled one of their leadership programs because McCarthy you know it's an individual that is yeah the speaker like 16 minutes ago McCarthy lost the fourth ballot okay that's like he's lost all four right yeah otherwise he got swept how does that work was going I didn't even know this was a thing it hasn't happened in over 100 years I thought the party just picked somebody which I guess is what they're doing but I thought like the RNC just appointed someone and that's who it was um but I

I didn't even know this was a thing. This guy keeps losing because they know he's a Klaus Schwab puppet. Most of the like R&C. So they're trying to make sure he doesn't get it. Who McCarthy? Yeah. Look, I'll show you.

There's a list of leaders on the W.E.F. website that are their like candidates that they run and they pay money to. And it's a whole thing. Klaus Schwab is a puppet. So the, wait, so the W. It's a puppet master. The W.E.F got Kevin McCarthy a little. elected to the House of Representatives.

Is that what you're saying? Yeah. They're all plants. And they have them all over the world, especially in Canada. You can literally, it is all there. And what is W.E.F. The World Economic Forum, who conduct great economic, like, uh, tests by like giving, you know, a village in Kenya a bunch of money and not giving the other village in Kent, like right

next to them a bunch of money and seeing how they interact with each other and literally just promoting scarcity and doing all these uh you know sort of economic like experiments in the third world and it's just not like to just to see how people react and just fuck with random people because they have tons of money and tons of control and no one can check them i yeah so that that does not surprise me at all that there would be these giant economic confederate that are like performing experiments essentially so that they can be like here's how we should invest our money in the future but the reality is they're using people as like pawns in their little game but where are you saying that Kevin McCarthy is a pawn of the W.EF he's got the receipts

I know I'm just looking he's on their website he's a WEF I think leadership member okay it just says Kevin McCarthy I'm looking at his page right now there's just a page that that's a picture of Kevin McCarthy. Doesn't say what he does for them. Okay, well, let me find the exact list. But, so who are they going to elect? Who's it going to be? He's a member of the WEF. That's why he's on the website. Okay, does it have to be somebody that's in Congress. I read, I found out it actually does not. Okay, so they could, what if they elected Trump? Someone voted for Lee Zeldin, the guy who was a representative and then ran for governor in New York. Ah. What if it was Trump, though? They could just make Trump speaker the house.

Theoretically, yes, they could. Oh, that would be awesome. Oh, you think it would be awesome? It'd be funny. Great for the country? It'd be funny. The party's like finally split on Trump, isn't it? Like, now they're like, part of them are like, no, fuck no, he's not winning anymore.

And the other part is like loyal to him. That's kind of what it sounds like, yeah. Like Matt Gates, he's like calling out people that are seemingly too far. to the left for him. And everyone's just calling each other a rhino at this point. The hardcore Trump people are the ones that are not voting for McCarthy, right? Because I think that's that's, that's, that's, uh, MGT and that's the MGT and bober was beefy. Why are they beefing?

I haven't seen that. Probably somebody called somebody a rhino. That seems like that's where this all ends up eventually is the problem with being extreme on the left or on the right is it's very easy for somebody to kind of usurp you and to take away all your power just by going even more extreme than you are and then pointing out that you're too much of a centrist it's like the oldest playbook in the world so um yeah next like there will be a gun that runs for congress and the gun will be like Lauren Bobert is she's a lib and then what's Lauren going to say like well if you if you love guns so much then why don't you just

like amputate your arm and put a shotgun a Mossburg from your elbow down. Like a... You rhino. What is the... Who's the person with a gun as an arm in video games? It's not Duke Nukum.

I think Duke Nucum. I think, did Duke Nucum chop his arm off and put a gun? I think so, yeah. Duke Nucum is going to run for Congress and be like, Lauren Bobert's gun restaurant discriminates against people who literally have a firearm. Duke Nucum was way before my time,

but when I discovered Duke Nucum, I think they came out with a new Duke Newcomb game like throwback crazy the fun like most ridiculous

person like character of all time it appears Marjorie Taylor Green is in favor of Kevin McCarthy oh okay I think

she tweeted we are on day two in the same never Kevin group is now on their third speaker candidate people are truly beginning to realize

they have no plan and they are sick and tired of trust the plan that's a complete secret and never produces results I don't know which side

A shot's at Q? I don't know what side she's for. No, it seems to be she is in favor of voting for Kevin McCarthy. Okay, so where do we stand now? Who else is there? I think people are voting for Jim Jordan. Oh, Jordan's going to be speaker? I think that, no, no, no, no.

I think that's the people who weren't voting for Kevin McCarthy were voting for. Okay. Can't they just like continue and not have a speaker? Do you really need a speaker? I think you do have to have one eventually. Yeah. All right.

Here's Lauren. You can't vote on anything until there's a speaker. Here's Lauren. I have no doubt there are plenty of my colleagues who prefer to go along to get along. I was elected to secure the border, get spending under control, and fix our energy crisis. It's about making sure we have a leader that aggressively will push that. to forward, it seems like the swamp doesn't like being disrupted. So she's, from what I can gather, she's trying to drain the swamp.

And then other people are trying to fill the swamp in. And then, um, I saw there was also a clip of Matt Gates and AOC having a little conversation yesterday. You see that one? You think they're, I saw a brief part of it. Yeah. Do you think they're hooking up? No, that, that didn't. That didn't scream lover's quarrel to me

That actually screamed like They have a working relationship Which I didn't think that they did I can't stop peeing I got this new cup All I do is drink water all day long What's that called? The Stanley Cup

Okay that's all I hear about I got one as a surprise for Christmas I've been drinking so much water It's insane Don't get a hydropoxia There's so many there's so many cups I know it was the hydro flask I got two cups

I got this in a Lulu lemon cup Oh they've been make cups now? My brother got it. It's always a cup. It was insulated. What does that mean? Women have so many cups.

Is that true? I love a cup. We're not recording right now, right? Yes. We're not recording. We're good. Yeah, we should. Oh, okay.

I love a cup. Women love cups. This is breaking news to me. I mean, there's a new cup every few months. Yeah. This is the new cup. She has the new cup. All right.

I did see that on TikTok. One girl was like, I asked for the Stanley Cup for Christmas and she got like a replica Stanley Cup. Yeah, the trophy. The hydroflask used to be the big one. I thought that was the cup we were on, but then I found out recently that this is the new one. If you get the old cup, you're done. Yeah. Yeah. If you get if you buy someone who is one of these water drinkers, the old cup, they're just like, no, dude. This cup started the Mormons. Actually, I gave in. The Mormons got this because they put their pop in it. And then everyone was like, huh, that's a great. Look at this. And then it fits this is supposed to be so it fits in the cup holder in your car so i i appreciate that because if there's

anybody that knows like how to drink soda it's going to be the mormons it's like i want to get my cups from mormons for soda and my beer glasses from irish people i want so badly to go to one of those soda just shops they have in utah have you seen these yeah it's like have you've been to sonic yeah it's like sonic on steroids but they don't have food they just have sodas with all sorts of crazy mixtures and shit you can get in it it's awesome you can't That does sound good. You can get like a doctor pepper with vanilla syrup and coconut creamer. And it's like 800 grams of sugar.

Do they do like soda floats? I think so. He's like one of those old fashions. Crazy what happens when people can't booze. Yeah. I do. I'm going to Park City, Utah, end of the end of the month. I'm going to check that shit out.

Hell yeah. Please do. I've also heard that they, if you do go to a bar, they have to pour their mixed drinks behind like little modesty barriers so you can't tempt them you can't see people pouring mixed drinks does that make sense so like when they put the cup down on on the bar there's like a little thing that the bartenders go behind and so you can't see their hands as they're pouring the liquor into there why i don't know it's the same like reason and principle that back in victorian england they had to cover up the legs on like piano benches that you'd be sitting on because it was too

scandalous to be able to see a naked wooden table leg. Wait, actually? Yeah. I was about to make that joke in my head like they don't let any type of legs get uncovered. Seriously. In Victorian England yeah. Or Puritan England maybe that's what I'm thinking of. Table legs women's legs. None of that shit. That's actually the hornyest thing that I've ever heard in my life. They have they have to cover up a fucking wooden table leg because they'll be like oh oh fuck. Their testosterone. levels were so much higher than ours nowadays.

You think they were better at sports? Have you seen them clog dance? I have not. Oh, man. Yeah, no, I've actually been going down rabbit holes of really old photos that just like really shatter your perspective of like just such a juxtaposition to today. And there was like, there was a picture of a bikini contest at like Daytona City Beach. And then there was a picture of an ankle.

contest where it was literally just like a stage everything was covered except for these women's ankles and it was like a Victorian England like ankle contest in ankle contest whoever had the best ankles that's pretty sick that's weird bro it was like it's weird uh it's just and there's other stuff I can't remember right now but it's just like crazy different I mean you got think about I mean it's like people back then wasn't any less horny bro you know what I'm saying they just to hide the shit so like that's why I'm appreciative of today's time I know it's wild

and like there's all kinds of shit that you never heard of or agree with what's going on but it's like I'd rather people get it to fuck out rather than suppressing it you know what I mean it's like it's good we spoke about this before no one's really getting it out because no one really has desire anymore maybe that was the desire all along

though your generation is like the least like probably the last horny generation my generation is yeah I saw a tweet where it was like yeah men may not be having sex anymore but at least the forcing fastballs up it's true we're working we're learning to control our testosterone productions and channeling into into positive positive uh channels instead of just having sex which is the gayest thing that you can do I mean it does it does steal all your power it does wait what women make what do you mean what do you mean what do you mean it

What's it? What's it? Pussy? What's it? What is it? Is that the sound that? It makes? No.

You just see the librarian voice. Oh man. Just hit a three-pointer from forty feet. Oh, man. Just hit a three-pointer from forty feet. What? Uh, no, it's, I'm mimicking a semen retention bodybuilder bros. Okay.

It's a very funny part of the internet. oh yeah much was found on bodybuilding forum which i read way too extensively yeah there there was that dude i signed up for his newsletter um uh tarreek quit porn specialist yes i had to unsubscribe because he sent way too many emails he just started sending way too much porn all he thinks about is porn like this guy that's a quit porn specialist was sending me like three emails a day about like how hard it was for him to quit porn and what types of porn he would watch and it's like dude this is this is weird specifically this video made me relapse he's just sending

a ton of porn to be yeah I don't know what Tarek's up to but he is he's definitely top top five percent Louisiana just put in a law in place that you need to show your government ID to access porn online I don't hate that I

so whack what why that what because wow Aaron and Mad Dogg really going at it you guys yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah what the fuck mad dog mad dog why don't you think minors should have easy access to porn oh you said minors yeah you have to show your ID to prove that you're 18 now I still don't like it okay bad dog why do you think they should have access to boy okay so I'm gonna

I'm gonna confirm I'm not a boy so I wasn't like I don't know doing what you guys were doing at 12 and like watching like big boob dot com but that's what I was on but I feel like I people talk about now how like porn is ruined like intimacy and like ruined men's brains of how women should be, I think, or even 16. I don't know. I feel like you got to have a little bit more of your frontal lobe developed before you're seeing like big tits.

As the J-O-I connoisseur. I would like to add that I think everybody should be able to do whatever they want. No. I just think I'm very libertarian with this. I just think that certain men should chill on the porn. Well, I think

you're going to have extremely horny cats no matter what, no matter if you censor the shit or or not, right? They're always going to be these dudes who are just out here trying to fuck every hole they see, right? But for me, I think it's more like it's because we shun porn, one, and we shun sexuality. So it's like you don't even allow people to explore their sexuality so much so that when they finally start to understand what their desires are and their likes are, they can't even really talk about it to anybody because it's not, you know, it's frowned upon.

So rather than having like that dialogue and what's the healthy, where to have sex with somebody, what's the, what's the, what's the risk factors, you know, what kind of, you know, what kind of things is consensual versus, you know, pushing the line. Like, whatever the case may be, like, you can't have those conversations because it's so taboo. I'm for, like, just exploring that shit, but educating people on it as well. Like, you know, I'm having horny thoughts, mom, like, what should I do? Like, hey, here's a pamphlet.

They don't have a class for this shit, you know, whatever, talk about this shit. Because if we talk about, like, if you look at it, we've, evolutionarily. Titties was, they just were a part of whatever. Titties weren't nothing. But because you cover them up all these years, then they become this mysterious skin seeking from the top of the body. It's actually wild how tits evolved. Go on.

Didn't you talk about vintage boobs? Okay. We're getting there. We're going back to caveman times. No, it was like a weird fetish that suddenly just became widespread because it was like the children ended up getting like more nourishment. Yeah, my best guess is that As a man with four nipples

As a man with four nipples, let me just say My best guess is that a larger breast would be More like an easier target for a baby They would see it and be more likely to latch on Then if it was a flat like completely flat chest I actually think it has more of like a camel's hump Type you can store more milk Yeah, you can know you can store more fat

Which in starvation situations is more able to feed a child. Okay. I think it's big in the Ice Age. Didn't they do research in some African tribes that they have like bigger boobs and penises because like they don't wear underwear or bras and like the gravity

like makes them bigger? I don't know. I saw something about that. Why are you laughing at me, Billy? I don't know why I'm hung, April, but I think my is that it's just a forbidden fruit factor.

Like once you start hiding tities, It's like, what's under the shirt? Surprise is tities. It's just like, when you, like, nudist tribes or nudist colonies, like, they grow up and kids grow up. It's just not a big deal to them because they see it all the time. And it's not a big deal. We just make it a big deal.

So all this is like kids don't need to see tities. It's like, but men titties are okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. There's no sense. Madeline, can you make when he said surprise it's titties? Can you make that a sound on TikTok? Because I think that could go,

really viral. Surprises. Did you drop a couple of shit? I have the international bra sizes, average breast size worldwide. Can you guess what the number one country is? What the biggest boobs? Uganda.

I'd actually go with Russia. Biggest boobs. Let me think. We're talking on, we're talking surgically. Natural. Like no surgery. Natural.

You know what? Jugs, Octoberfest, Germany. It might be the United States, but I'm not going to say the United States, even though I want to. I feel like this is a USA thing. So I'm going to say... It's not, but they're close. Okay, I'm going to go with Canada, Colombia.

No, they're below the United States. They're top 10, though. Okay, yeah. I like how you're going. I'm going to keep it there. I'm going to go Brazil. I said Brazil. Nope.

They're not even in the top 10. Brazil is for butts for butts. That's what I'm saying, but like, you know, proportionally I figured, you know... Brazil's average is an A and a B cup. We're talking CD. Croatia. Nope. Is it, is it

South America, Caribbean area? It starts with an N. Nicaragua? Nicaragua. Nope. Nigeria. Netherlands. Nope.

Northeast Ohio. North Korea. No. Norway. Yes. Norway. Norway. And large people.

Norway. They average a sea to deco. Wow. Average. Average. Yeah. That's pretty impressive. That's so painful.

Top five is Norway, Luxembourg. Iceland, United States, United Kingdom I feel bad for them All right, top five Yeah, we're there I'm glad to cakes Well yeah, I mean 12 year olds just don't have the frontal lobe to handle

Big Boobes.com The lowest That's the that's the conclusion we just made The lowest, the bottom five is Vietnam, Bangladesh, Cambodia, Nepal and the Congo That makes sense They should actually have a separate section for them at the UN And make them sit at the itty-bitty-titty committee

table. It would just be funny for a day, like as a joke. The small titty table. Yeah. I feel bad for those women. Good times. I'm a fan of small titties, though. Titties are great.

Across the board, you name it. A fun fact about tities is that when we're in the womb, when we're developing as people, our nipples form before our sex is determined. So that's why men have nipples. because we get nipples before we get separated to being a man or a woman. Is that interesting? That makes sense. That is interesting.

I wonder why they just decide, you know, when the baby-making machine is... Tiddy's nipples first. So you got four? We got to make sure the nipples are. So you got four nipples before they developed at the same time? I think so. I don't know. That's pretty wild.

I don't remember. You're probably related to like Rome, Romulus and Remus. I'm related to Rome. Yeah, you know how Romulus and Remus were, they drank the milk of a wolf? No. And they, there's that picture. They breastfed, yeah. They breastfed the wolf.

There's a statue of that wolf in Cincinnati. Yeah. Yeah. Do we see it? I don't think we saw it, but that's just a fun Cincinnati fact that I remember. Cincinnati is. Cincinnati has a lot of quirks like that. It does.

There's some real, real weird stuff about that city. Cursed field, I'm just saying it. Yeah. We don't really have to get in, I don't know. Arian, unless you have anything that you'd like to discuss when he comes to DeMar Hamlin and what we saw, I've talked about it a little bit, but I don't, I really have anything else out. The NFL continues to prove that they do not give a fuck about the health of players.

They don't give a shit. And so I hope his family's doing well, man. I like, you know, all the positive energy and shit that everybody's sending out. Just, you know, they all recognize that, yo, shit is bad. than the sport man like somebody almost died man and he's still in critical condition it's just sad dog i actually had a scare like that um uh because i have i actually have atrial fibrillation and uh i i uh i exited um it was 2012 was playing the vikens and i exited at half like right before half in the second quarter because i went into a fib and it was my first time going

into a fib on a football field so i was like super scared and so uh you know i nowhere near that situation obviously but uh it's just man man fucking NFL and they don't give people lifetime health insurance so do you do you my explaining a little about that condition is that also the same condition j j wad had i have no idea what's going on in j j wad's heart i think he had he had a fib like what exactly is the symptoms just someone who's curious if a if a fib uh it's like your heart is or like it's electrical and so basically what I was explaining to me it was like a fib is a it's like an electrical misfire and so every now and then your heart will like everybody's heart like pumps like regularly sometimes people that have a fib it'll go into um like irregular

heartbeat so it's they like um-thum-thum-thum-thum it'll be like to doop-dum-dum-dum-thum and then so when you go into aphib it's it continues to be irregular for a long period of time or for any any period of time and So it's really scary when you don't know what it is because it like it can send you into like an anxiety attack. And that can like over, you know, and then your brain starts going like, oh, I'm having a heart attack. And it's like, you know, so it could just, you know, accumulate and it just gets really bad. So like it's better to be aware of it. And there are several different risk factors to consider if you have it and to look into it. And I'm not a doctor.

But, you know, if you know somebody or have somebody with it, like get that shit checked out. I've always been under the guy like it's better to be safe than sorry I'd rather call the ambulance 40 times for like a you know for nothing you know for a panic attack over that could have been the last one you know what I mean so I don't know stuff

I gotta say though ambulance bills are insane yeah oh fun fact I had a panic attack in Japan a super panic attack I thought I thought this was the one and this was when I started having panic attacks and I didn't know what it was

I'm talking about they hook looked me up. They ran mad tests. It was, they did all, they gave me all kind of medicine. They didn't know what it was. Finally, they figured out it was GERD that was causing my panic attacks. And, uh, uh, like in hospital, visited ambulance. We rode like an hour in the ambulance because I was in like some small town. Uh, all that shit was like $150. Crazy. Huh. Yeah, I, so actually someone who I knew ended up passing out, uh, running a house. marathon, they had to get an ambulance. It was a crazy bill.

But, yeah. A lot of people recall ambulance because of that shit. Gert's like, Gert is like, it's a into like a digestive problem. So it's like gas and shit builds up in your stomach and it puts pressure like right on your stomach, which is right by your heart and it's right by your lungs. And so like puts pressure there and makes your chest feel tight.

And it makes it feel like you're having a, panic attack, heart attack, whatever. And it's just really uneasy feeling in your chest that a lot of people mistake for heart attacks all the time. Oh, man. And then your brain starts going into panic mode, essentially, and that makes the symptoms worse. So it's like a cycle?

And then it's like, you can't breathe. And she's just talking about it makes me breathe heavy because it's like my brain's like, oh, is it? It's heavy all the time. What did you do for? Gerd? It's just the dietary thing. When you're eating like shit and drinking a whole bunch of Dr. Pepper, you're more likely to have that shit, had that problem.

And so, like, what I do is, like, when I feel like I'm eating like shit, I'll reset and I'll do nothing but vegetables for like a week. And I mean, like, and I don't even like how I cook, I air fry them. And I just, I'm talking about potatoes, carrots, green peppers, red peppers, like green onions. I'll just, I'll make it all throw into a big old pot and that'll be my meal for like a week. And I'll do that like twice. And it just cleans you out and reset your entire. system. It's why I learned that shit while I was vegan, honestly. Raw vegetables is like the most healthy shit that they're for. And potatoes are some of the best foods. Do you miss it? Do you miss being

vegan? No, no. I think in the back of my mind, I know it's like extremely healthy for you. Like the health benefit, I can literally reverse. There's massive evidences that say it could reverse heart disease. It could reverse diabetes. It could reverse a type one diabetes. It can reverse a lot, or type 2s, I'm sorry, type 2 diabetes. It can reverse a lot of symptoms of, of symptoms that ailless. I mean, diseases that ailest. And I think it's extremely unethical. Factory farming, even though I don't fuck with animals, I don't like them.

B are horrible to them ethically. But that's the part I miss about it. It's that me being okay with what's going on, but just me being a part of society. Like, I got to know what's wrong, but at the end of the day, it's like, here's what it is. That's probably how nigs felt about slavery back in the day. Like, this is wrong, but, you know, it is what it is. I think, I think there's a good chance that, I don't know, 100 years from now, 200 years from now, our great, great grandchildren will be like, I can't believe that you guys had all these giant farms filled with just animals and used to just slaughter them and eat them every single day for your meals.

And I'll be like, yeah, they were very, they were delicious. It was crazy. It was crazy good. Right now, what we're saying, this is definitely, if there's ever a statue built of Arian Foster, they're going to take it down in 150 years. Some like, woke college students are going to listen to this podcast and be like, actually, Aaron Foster was a bad guy. Or you're like, you knew better, not left enough. You're at the Thanksgiving table and like your grandchildren. Like our factory farming grandpa was going off about how delicious it was.

Yeah. I actually think the big one is going to be like maybe in 500 to a thousand years. or like when AI gets super advanced mistreatment of like automated services, like yelling at Siri, like, like, because we literally have a like robot. I don't think that's ever, ever going to be a thing. When AI becomes sentient, I'm just saying like, did you, you know, abuse technology? Okay. What's the next thing?

Are you going to abuse a table? Are you going to abuse a warts and inanimate object? Oh, until they become sentient, sentient, they do not deserve sentient. right we are all sentient so that's it's going to be like non like non biological being uh like non like biological being ist

you you you discriminate against non biological beings that's what's going to be when somebody looks at their remote like a dad looks at their remote I hate the stupid fucking thing yeah we'll be punished for that like I rather have a real wife a biological wife

and not a robot wife it's going to get weird A quick change of pace here Because this is some breaking news that's happening right now Big T, I don't know if you're seeing what's going on With soccer? Yeah This is some wild shit

So at the World Cup this year Greg Burrhalter Our team manager Didn't play Gio Raina There are a lot of different explanations given for why One of the best players on the team If you don't follow soccer Yeah, he's one of the best players on the team

He's a star in the Bundesliga Yeah He's a very good player very young, but he didn't play hardly at all. I think he got in for like, what? Maybe he got into two games for probably a total of 10, 15 months. Yeah, one of our best players. So everybody was trying to figure out why he didn't play.

Apparently, according to the manager, he was being a little shit during some of the scrimmages when he was told that he would have a limited role, that he would not be a starter. And so there was a lot of back and forth, back and forth going on about it. apparently Gio Raina's parents and Gio Rana's dad is Claudia Rana The captain also played for the U.S. national team Former captain of the U.S. national team

who's a really, really good player in the late 90s, early 2000s. His dad I guess threatened to blackmail the manager of the team, Greg Berhalter, with information that Greg Berthalter got arrested back in like

when he was, what, 18 years old? He didn't get arrested. He had a physical incident with his now wife. With his now wife. So they were like 18 or 19 I think and they were fighting outside of a restaurant. They were both drunk and

I think he like kicked her in the shin. He said he kicked her. Yeah. He kicked her in the shin and he was 18. They broke up. They got back together and they've been I guess happily married ever since. So Claudia Arena was trying to, he was sending information about this to the United States

Soccer Federation trying to, trying to get Greg Burrhalter either fired or his contract not renewed. And then Claudia Raina's wife was also involved in this, allegedly. Danielle, she says that she reported the 1991 domestic violence incident involving USM&T coach Greg Berhalter, the United States Soccer Federation Sporting Director, Ernie Stewart after Burhalter's post World Cup comments on Geo. So after the World Cup, the manager Burhalter made comments that he, alleged were in private and off the record saying why Gio didn't play that he was being a little

shit in these scrimmages. And after that, his mom reported the incident to U.S. soccer, the domestic violence incident. And now she's saying, I want to be very clear. I did not ask for Greg to be fired. I did not make any threats and I don't know anything about any blackmail attempts. Sounds like she does. Sounds like that's exactly what she was doing. That's okay. Do you remember, I think it was you and I were sitting there. It may have been the, I forget what game it was maybe Iran but we were like they they've got to have some like

he has they must have some sort of blackmail or something for him to not be playing Gio Raina yeah and it turns out that's what it was there was well this is like reverse black man right yeah I guess well we said like maybe he was a game show voice right there holy shit

turns out maybe that's what it was he was and we said like maybe he was in a fight with his dad or something yeah uh Claudio Rana just came out with a statement. I support my wife, Danielle, and her statement. I too was upset by Greg's comments about Gio after the U.S. was out of the World Cup, and I also appealed to Ernie Stewart on December 11th, asking him to prevent any additional comments. While in

Qatar, I shared my frustrations about my son's World Cup experience with a number of close friends, Ernie and Brian McBride among them. However, at no time did I ever threaten anyone, nor would I ever do so. I mean, it is so classic that a soccer player kick someone. That's such a soccer player move there you go billy that's totally that's we love we love billy's analysis i mean on these situations uh especially a woman i don't think this who do you think this looks the worst on i think it looks bad on claudio and yeah uh his wife daniel claudio anna because um i mean it's obviously never a good idea or it should you should never kick a woman if you're a man um that's that's that's i think that almost goes without saying

but I will say it anyways. It was, it was, it was 1991, and it sounds like it was, it seems to have been a one-time incident that they moved on from, and they were like 18 at the time. Again, you should not kick a woman, even if you're an 18-year-old guy, but it sounds like something that they moved on from, and it was only brought to, it was used as a weapon. The domestic violence thing was used as a weapon against Greg Burhalter after not playing somebody's son. So they come off in this looking like the worst.

types of helicopter parents and I feel I honestly feel bad for Geo having to deal with all this shit like he probably didn't ask for this he was probably pissed off that he wasn't playing but now he's got to deal with the fact that now he's going to be labeled as like his dad is coming in trying to fight all these battles for him and that's not a good look for him either it's crazy yeah it's wild yeah I mean every team's got something like this where like a there's one player on the team whose parents lobby behind the scenes helicopter and i i guarantee you that geo and and daniel are probably the type of parents that like talk about how out of control parents get in sports it's usually the same people in my experience you just don't normally see

this and i guess it kind of makes sense because rain is what 20 21 so he's college aged like this sounds like some college shit you rarely see this in professional sports yeah i guess like uh what's lanzo ball's dad's name? name. Lamar. Lovar Ball, like, but it's pretty rare. Yeah. But I guess like Raina is college age kid. So there's still kind of helicopter parents. Yeah. Yeah, it's a, it's a bad, it's honestly a bad look for U.S. soccer too, to like have a former player that's trying to manipulate things behind the scenes are our whole situations and disarray. There's one thing you can count on with U.S. soccer is after World Cup. There will be a postmortem that comes out.

And everybody involved is going to look like a bunch of weirdos that we're all fighting with each other. Feels good, though. We haven't gotten to do it for eight years. It's true. So stay tuned until 2026 when, if and when we lose, it will be in front of our own fans. Yep. And I'm sure we'll have a big explanation ready. And, God, this is just so crazy.

What city is it going to be? It's in a bunch. Three countries, actually. They're doing continents. It's like Atlanta, Miami, New York, Dallas, Houston. L.A. There's several. So FIFA could get, you know,

three countries bribing them for the price of one World Cup. Yeah. Three birds, one stone. Oh, and also, Greg Burhalter came out like two days ago and issued a statement saying like somebody was trying to... He got out in front of it.

He got in front of it. He said what happened. M&M style. Yeah. He was like, I got to... Here's all the dirt on me. And wait. Yeah, that's how it started.

I am white. An essay by Greg Burrhalter. That's the start of the M&M 8 mile case. Yep, any. I would pay, I generally despise this whole celebrity boxing phenomenon we're going through right now, but I'd pay really good money. Let's do them rough and rowdy. I'd pay really good money to watch Greg Burrhalter and Claudia ran a fight.

Soccer players just kick. It's not necessarily true, Billy They're foot fairies Foot fairies Is that still okay to say? I don't know Yeah No, it's like a joke

It's like a joke Got it It was a joke He said amongst us athletes No, not us I just amongst athletes Oh, I thought you said amongst us athletes Yeah, us too

Same athletic level, totally Us shoving to athletes over here No, I mean, it could be. I just might have missed that boat, you know what I mean? I got, um, I got catfished this weekend. Oh, yeah. Tell us about it. Yeah, so you ever go to like an Airbnb and I have my kids with me?

And so I'm looking to have a nice spot. It's relatively safe, relatively, you know, like modern, you know, just so the kids can have a good time. have my shorty with me it's all good I'm looking through the app the Airbnb I was like oh this looks fancy this looks amazing like the pictures look amazing

everything look good and naturally like when you're scrolling through like Airbnb how often do you check to see if there's a TV you know what I mean it's just like one of those things where yeah

I have I go to libraries and see TVs I just it's what you expect inside of walls nowadays and I go and we get there and it's just the oldest fucking house you can ever it's just you walk in the creeks there's people upstairs walls of paper thin no TVs just like a couch an old-ass fireplace and they had these board games that were old as shit and it's just like yo really just got catfish but I didn't feel like booking so we just ended up staying there

but it ended up being really cool for the simple fact like since there was no TV we had to interact as humans. And so we ended up going to Target and getting, it was Tarjeet, if you're fancy. You bought a TV. No. No, that'd be wild, dog. You welcome you pieces of shit.

We ended up getting this dope. I don't know if you ever played, but it's called, it's like murder mysteries. So it's like, it's like a box full of like a whole bunch of clues they list up like what you know what what what's going on the scenario and you have to figure out who killed who and uh it ended up being really fun and so me and my kids are all sitting there at you know 10 11 p.m. trying to figure out who killed who and it was exactly we we guessed it but we guessed her actually it was the way her and we guessed her her it doesn't matter you know

what the fuck I'm talking about so anyway that was my catfish Airbnb store uh quick side note on mysteries, have you, like, if you want a good movie to watch, check out Glass Onion. Yes. Oh, yeah. Really good, so good, so good, so good. You've seen the first one, though, right?

Really good. No. Before this fucking negative guy talks to, have you seen the first one? Yes. I know. I saw the first one. It was predicated off the first.

The first one was fire, so we had been waiting for this shit to come about me and my kids. And so the first one's called Knives Out. Oh, watch the first. And it's just as, it's fucking dope, bro. Oh, shit. That's actually, I'm so hyped. Yeah.

Is anything spoiled? Wait, no, no, no, don't say anything because I haven't seen it. It's an entirely new cast. It's an entirely new cast. Besides Ben Woblin. The detective is the same. Yeah, the detective is the same. But he's just revered as like one of the best detectives in the world.

That's the brand new, brand new mystery. Nothing's, you're going to watch the first one and fall in love it. Oh, hell, yeah. The first one's so good, too. I'm a big Daniel Craig guy, so I got to get on that. I skipped out on knives out for a long time. That's Benoit Blanc. Oh, yeah.

James Bond. He's James Bond. Yeah. I like a better detective fan. Glass Onion, I thought, was really, really good. I really liked Glass Onion. I also have a low bar for entertainment, but I liked it a lot. It's a good movie, man.

It's a great movie, man. No, I just, that was great. There's a lot of good cameos in it, too. Mm-hmm. I like that. I like that. Yeah. I'll get on that.

I don't know what I was saying. There was some spoil it, but it was really dope. Playing murder mystery. squeaky house. Yeah, no, it was really weird. But I haven't seen the dude who owned the glass onion. Oh, Edward Norton?

I hadn't seen him since, I don't know if y'all remember. You definitely don't remember that, P.F.E. Mike. You remember that movie, Primal Fear? Edward Norton? Yeah. Brough, Primer Fear was, I don't know how it is now, but I remember it being really dope.

I think I was in, like, high school when it came out or right before high school. But I remember that movie being really, he, like, acted his ass off. But I haven't seen him since then. I mean, maybe I've been out the... He's a ton of stuff. He was the Hulk first for me.

That movie kicked ass. That primal fear was, uh, he was like, he went on a nice little stretch of, um, I guess drama thrillers for a while. So like primal fear, he was in that. He was in fight club. He was in, uh... I've never seen, I've never seen Fight Club. Oh, you got to watch Fight Club.

It's good. I'm watching Christmas movie. And, uh, it's a Christmas movie, Die Hard? I was just, I got Die Hard and Fight Club. I like that, though. I like that take. Fight Club and Bruce Willis dead at that

in some clip this year. He was on some reward stage and he was like, diehard is not a Christmas movie. Bruce Willis dead at that shit. Damn. There was also

25th hour. That's a good movie too. Is that Edward Norton in it? I think so, yeah. 25th hour with Edward Norton and Tony Sir Gusa, RIP. He was in that movie too, I believe.

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No, you didn't. No, I actually didn't. Yeah. I know. I actually had a cheese. He saw the cheese steak. Billy lies about literally everything. I didn't know if you wanted me to lie.

It's crazy. No, but like, seriously, that was one of those things where I thought you were just just throwing up a lob for the, we can cut this, but we're like throwing it up for the advertiser. No, I don't lie about this. I actually ate one on Sunday before the game started. Like, and it was delicious. I ate one.

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So that's how I'm trying to get jacked. I got a crock pot for Christmas. I'm just going to go Rat Boy and make a ton of chicken. Or crack. You know, Maddie. I know. And I was so pumped about it. It was my favorite Christmas present this year.

you know we start getting you start getting really excited about household appliances and I got cookbooks for it I was so pumped about it's really it really aged me I was pumped though so I have a crock pot now I got a coffee maker oh that's so exciting yeah I got a coffee maker and I actually

I've never really drank coffee before but I got a coffee maker I really like foaming milk Billie I got a frother it's on the way I'm so excited I love frothed milk I used to drink like hot milk as a child, but now like I can drink hot milk and like be an adult. I got a frother. I'm so excited to use it. And actually real shout out.

I stole some K cups from work, Stella Blue and there, it's an amazing coffee. I'd never drank coffee before. Stella Blue is great. It's like I like never drank coffee and now I'm drinking Stella Blue every morning. Legitimately, medium roast, electric avenue. Yeah. Nice, Billy. Are you sure that you actually drank it?

Yes, I actually did. Okay. I can show you my... I do believe you because you did admit to stealing it, so... Yeah. Unprompted. Yeah. Unprompted.

Okay. Idaho? Idaho. Let's talk Idaho. This has been a case. It's been unfolding last several weeks here. And it's captivated a lot of people's minds because they... I guess it was a young group of college kids that,

tragically were stabbed in their own, their own house. I think four people were murdered. There were two other people that were in that house that were downstairs that fortunately were not attacked during this. But it happened right before winter break on campus, or just right off campus at the University of Idaho in Moscow, Idaho. And people have been trying to figure out what's going on. Because in a case like this, it usually gets wrapped up within hours,

you know, maybe a day or two because it's 99% of the time. somebody that's very closely related to everyone. If somebody's like taking a knife and going to stab people, it's usually a crime that's committed out of emotion or out of rage. And those are things that are tied to somebody that you know and have a relationship with. So after like interviewing everybody that had been around these people, ex-boyfriends, ex-girlfriends, things like that, they kind of hit a brick wall and nobody knew what was gone.

But they just made an arrest last. Last Friday, I believe they arrested the guy. And so they caught him after, I guess he drove across country to Pennsylvania. Yeah. But he went to school at Washington State, which is really close. It was like 15 minutes away. The guy's name is that they, the alleged killer, we respect due process. His name is Brian Christopher Coburger.

And he was a criminology PhD student. He didn't have a PhD, but he was currently enrolled in the program. And he finished the semester. I'm going to say I think the The Moscow police got a lot of flack During this whole episode Because they were being so Tight-lipped on everything

And everyone thought they basically had no leads Nothing but apparently they knew about this guy a week after And it had a lot to do With the white Hyundai Allantra that you drove But let's let's When we're talking about these things We tend to get very wrapped up about the killer I just really want to acknowledge Ethan Chapin, Zana Kurnodal, Madison Mogan, and Kaylee, Consolwitz.

Consolwis. Yeah. But because their story, it's like this case has become very popularized amongst people in my age group, college age group, because the story of what they were doing that night, their situation is very commonplace in American colleges. across the country like the stuff they were doing the situations they were in you know an off-campus rental house where everyone bunks up you know people just like you know it's it's a it's a environment that as someone who went to college and recently and like it's probably the same with everyone who's gone to college like it's a scenario where you think that you're very safe yeah and i think it resounded with a lot of young people because it was just so crazy

and you know yeah it was scary the specifics are it's scary and it's uh i didn't i guess relatable to a lot of people that are that are going through a similar experience at college um like oh my god what if somebody broke into my place like it's something that you would start to think about random random person did it which makes it so scary uh this is it's also i'm going to sound like a boomer it's also a major indictment of tictock in general this case because uh the aftermath of it when people were trying to figure out what was going on you saw it it went uh all over reddit it was over TikTok people trying to figure out who did this it became almost like a game for a lot of people and people were coming up with theories almost immediately right afterwards so uh and a lot of those went

mega viral there was a neighbor that had walked by the house uh walking his dog and they interviewed him right afterward or the next day asking like oh what's going on with this this neighbor of yours like do you know anything about the house where all these murders took place and the guy was like socially awkward and didn't know how to speak to a reporter or speak to the camera. And so that interview went out and people all like jump down this guy's throw and they're like, this is the murderer right here. And it like all these theories went viral and shit. This guy was just like, wait, what? I was just, I was walking my dog and I saw a reporter and the reporter asked me questions. And so I tried to answer to them the best that I could. He was

wearing like long sleeves, um, like a sweatshirt that had a hole cut out for his thumbs which is I you see that a lot place yeah you see that a lot especially like in cold cold cities yeah or whatever so it's got like a sleeve cut out for his thumbs and uh on the sleeve of his uh his wrist and so some people were like it looks like he's got bandages on his hand like that's that he's probably the guy that was using the knife and then there was other surveillance footage that came out and people were accusing yeah somebody that was like waiting in line at a food truck yeah so there's this kid jack show no we should can we the thing is these people have gone so i've been looking at

through a very toxic Reddit researching this and the only like these people have gotten enough they want to be left out of the media like these people have been really witch hunted down and now since this guy's been accused they're getting their revenge like you have a girl who like

posted in the Reddit like are you guys going to apologize to my boyfriend who you like they should and like really gone after so like let's not even bring any more attention to their names. I think I think it's we don't have to like say their names but there's specific example was like the neighbor guy that was just talking to the news and he I think he said that he

was like on the spectrum or maybe I just read something that said that he was like he was slightly on the spectrum and he's socially awkward and now you've got tens of thousands of people and his peers thinking he's a murderer like that's fucked up that's that's what makes like TikTok it's great I love TikTok and when I start like surfing the algorithm wave man I'm cow bonged like I fucking love that shit and it gets addicting. It's convincing too. But it's people need to realize I think that most of the stuff that you see on there is just completely bullshit. People, Ari, I know that you've talked about this before. We need to teach media literacy to kids in school. And even if you tell somebody like,

hey, this is bullshit, they'll be like, no, you're just being a boomer. Like, TikTok is like, that's where I get my news. Most of it is just like completely made up. There's, there's some good sources. that you can find if you do a good enough job like vetting stuff. But most of it is just like complete bullshit that people make up. Yeah, who would believe that stuff? Yeah. Who?

Billy. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was just going to say Billy definitely like looked into some of these guys that were being accused. No question. Well, during, during what was going on, but I didn't I didn't blog any of them or tweet any of them. Thank you. I think the most frustrating part about

it is like nobody's going to learn any kind of lesson from this, right? It's the, it's because media and entertainment are now in a woven. And so there's no, I've been saying this shit for years, there's just no remedy for this shit. The only remedy is to educate your children, dog. That's that they're going to save themselves from this shit because we're already, we're already, like if you look at what's going on in the circus and Congress, or if you look at like just everything to win a worldwide stage, we're all victims of this new tool, which is social media. And you don't

educate people on it in the middle of their lifespans because they got it correct right so you have to educate them young like how to vet information how to source information and the most poor thing is stay out of business they don't have anything to do with you like that's shit that would care a lot of this shit just stay out of this people business man unless you have pertinent information and you can give proper information to authorities who are working on this right if it's that that makes sense but if it's not bro stop talking about it don't share it that's why i never i never share fight videos. I never share like anything because it doesn't do

anything to help, bro. I'm not a fucking detective. I'm not. That's fun. I like to think I am, but I'm not a detective. Think your thoughts. Leave that shit off your page. That's the best remedy for this shit. Smart. Smart, but a lot of people like when kids are seeing this, it's

like natural for them to get worked up about something because it does become almost like a mystery show to them or it becomes like an episode of Law and Order. Let me walk something back. No, no, I'm saying, let me walk something back because there is, there is value in mass sharing things, but there's a way to remain neutral on it.

Like, say, a kid goes missing or something like that, right? And, like, that kind of shit definitely adds value, like, right? That shit is valuable. Like, that kind of mass sharing, I think, is positive. But it's when it becomes, when you start injecting your own what you think is going on, that's when it becomes dangerous. And, like, there's definitely, it's not black and white, there's gray area. So it's like, but that's one of the, there is value in sharing shit like that.

I'm not just don't want to leave out the positives of this shit. So, no, I think that you're absolutely right when it's a missing person. I remember seeing some of the Casey Anthony interrogation stuff. And they were talking about how they like using the media. The media can be a big help for them in certain aspects, but also the media can, like, throw gasoline on a fire. And that's kind of what happened with, uh, with this case. where they got a lot of tips or a lot of like citizen sleuths out there

that were trying to figure out who was responsible for this. And they went down a lot of really stupid rabbit holes and started accusing everybody. There was, so that one person, we won't say their name, but they were like on camera with some of the girls outside of a food truck. Yeah. Right before the murder happened

on their way home from the bars. And he was like, there was a guy that was kind of like lingering around next to them and then the girls left without him and then everyone's like this guy gives me in-cell vibes like he committed this murder because these girls wouldn't talk to him

or didn't go home with him in that Twitch stream which is something that's now commonplace around some of these food places is just there so people know if there's a line or not which is something like that's like a modern thing

like it could be anybody sitting there on the Twitch stream and it's one of those things where a lot of accusations got turned around that I think neighbor you were talking about ended up writing a whole like there's this one red pages that really i think it's like called moscow murders and this guy just posted a whole like biography about himself to try to absolve himself and that probably made them more suspicious yeah look how much this guy's interacting with us what

what you said about casey anthony and the media the media used to be journalists but now the media is anybody on ticot who wants to create a page about this quadruple homicide and now they can just spew whatever they want. Yeah. And then you go on TikTok live and people see, oh, I'm interested in that. And now you have 2,000 people watching you. And you become a source in air quotes for this thing that you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

Yeah. You know what that reminds me of? You guys might not remember this. This might be before your time online. But there was, when the Boston bombing happened at the marathon and they tracked down those brothers that were responsible for it, there was a big free jihad. movement online that sprung up about the kid that got arrested and there were some people saying like this is not true he's been set up for all this and but it was people that had no connection whatsoever

just became like a fan page for for jahar and then there were celebrities that like rose out of that because they were the loudest most visible people in that movement and then they gained a following so whatever they said about the case became known as fact and there was just like a massive massive almost like a brand new news channel of nothing but complete bullshit that happened based on one person letting temporary internet fame get to their head and then now all of a sudden that person's looked at as like a trusted source of information which is what happened with a lot of these people on like the Reddit threads or on TikTok that became people's go-to sources for information about this case in Moscow but they had no idea what was going on and there there were also a bunch

people that complained to the police that the police weren't releasing like enough information during the investigation and that was frustrating which might be true and if you're a student at the University of Idaho you probably you don't feel safe because you don't know

what they're researching when it came to this guy you don't know if he's still part of the community you don't know and I'm saying he because like the entire time we knew it was a guy right like that was pretty clear yeah knife crime yeah it's a guy girls stab a lot too

do they I mean that self-defense a lot of time that only fan that only fans model okay girls do you said girls stab a lot too that's just not true I mean look up I there's

knife crimes knife crime breakdown by gender domestic domestic disputes knives get I'm just saying I'm not going to say that you said it's not

girl stab a lot too that's just not true I'm just saying it's not only men knives. Lady Macbath? Our men are men like responsible for like 90 plus percent of the crimes? So when you say a lot too, it's just because it came to my head.

There's literally like three only, I think two examples of only fan models stabbing people. Wasn't that heard of? Yeah. And they're both women. But that's probably because like every only fan's model is a woman. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know.

It would be a small percentage of stabbing. I'm just saying. It's not totally out of there. Okay, unless you're an only fan's model. Men and only fans model. Those are the only people that stab. Yeah. But so I do feel bad for the people that got like caught up in this in this internet investigation.

And have you guys seen, this is going to sound stupid. Have you guys seen the new episode or the new season of Dexter? No. No, that's. Yeah. It's better. It's better than the end of the last season. But in the new one, there's like a true crime podcast.

that just like gets off on these murders and like investigating stuff true true crime has been so like you used to talk to actual detectives and like cops who like had the stories and they've been totally robbed their like way to get girls through true crime stories through true crime podcasts actually had a conversation with detective like recently about it wait what do you mean so I I know a guy he's a high level New York City detective and he like has all these stories about all these like investigations he worked on um not going to mention specifics but he was like yeah he gets you guys aren't privy to those no no he knows about them but like now it's like this isn't this guy's not a barstow sports security guard right no no not at all okay just making sure yeah yeah as the shit

this guy's on those list uh but anyway he was like he's definitely barstle sports security guard he's not i think it's more likely than not he's not you can ask you can ask you can ask any of them I actually yeah no I don't want to say exactly what he is because then people could figure out who he is all right so basically all these girls are listening to true crime

podcast and now these detectives are like that was our thing before we used to tell true crime stories and we used to be like special because of that now anyone can pull up a podcast and listen to them so detectives are wait are you saying that because true true crime podcast hosts are no

longer doing the the legwork of interviewing detectives, that's cutting detectives off from being able to talk to single women. Yes. Okay. So it's slowing the riz of cops. It's slowing the riz. That's what I'm saying. All right.

So what we need then is if you host a true crime podcast and are a single woman, you should be interviewing detectives and getting primary sources as opposed to just reading stuff online. It's seizing the means of production. Sure. Yeah. Which we are against on this podcast. So, all right, so talk, so talk to police officers if you're a single woman that hosts a true crime podcast. I can get behind that.

It was actually because you're undercutting the business here. Yeah, yeah, it's their stories. No, but actually, they also said it caused more people to be more interested in their job. And it's actually been good PR for for police for police recently in a world of like. Well, they do they do conduct important investment. Investigations. Yeah. And it sounds like they got,

sounds like they got the right guy when it comes to this one. So the thing is, everyone was so critical to the Moscow police. Moscow police hadn't seen a murder in 60 years. This was their first murder scene in, I think, 60 years. So think about that. So we were actually, I was talking to this person about the Moscow case recently.

And they were basically saying, like, look, there was a lot of stuff done at the crime scene that in New, you know, in New York City would never be done. it would be sealed off striking for footprints in the driveway tire marks the whole street would be shut down a case of this you know serial killer variety like because there could be copycat there could be copycat's he could strike again like time is of the essence to catch this type of thing uh everything would be sealed like the basically the precautions taken at the scene of the crime would have been much higher and you know much more specific but moscow police didn't even know what they were dealing with because at the first call, and we can get into the timeline in a second. But since then, they did, I think why it took so long for them to get this guy is because they were taking

their time gathering enough evidence to make sure they get them, to have damning evidence. Because like, the thing is, we see all these trials, OJ, Casey Anthony, you know, they, they moved faster than making sure they dot all their eyes, you know, crossed all their T's and ended up getting these people. There wasn't a lot of evidence to begin with in some of the cases. Right, right, right. I mean, there was definitely his son, not OJ.

But I think it wasn't a good day. No, but they wanted to really make sure they got this guy. And the thing is, so this is, I'm going to only, I'm not going to go to a lot of rumors of the case, I'm going to go to specifics that led to

this guy getting incarcerated technically in detention right now. But it all started on a typical college Saturday night. These four all were out in separate places. You had a couple, Ethan Chapin and Zana, who went to a frat party at 8 o'clock. You had Madison, Mogan, and Kaley Gonclaves,

who was at a bar, typical college Saturday night. They all go out. Ethan Chapin, Zanah Cronodle, are back at the apartment at around 1 a.m. Madison Mogan and Kaylee Gonglaves are seen Gonzales. are seen at a truck eating food at about 140 and at some point come back to the apartment. These four crashed in two separate beds, the couple in one bed and Madison and Cayley in another bed. Madison and Cayley were, you know, very good friends having a sleepover, even though they had all their separate beds.

At some point in early Sunday morning, these four were brutally stabbed by a Rambo, type knife. Their bodies weren't found until 11 o'clock the next day because like a class, after a classic Saturday night, everyone sleeps in. No one really gets going and is doing anything until later in the day. At some point, and the thing is, they were not the only ones in the house. There was two other individuals who slept in a different part of the house that was, I think, them uh with locked doors yeah it was beneath them yeah and basically at the next morning a friend

an individual came to the house at 11 a.m you know just like checking up like oh you know I haven't heard from these people I'm just going to go stop by their house and this is when the first 911 calls made this individual goes into the house runs out of the house screaming and then faints in the front of the driveway. The first 911 call is about an unconscious individual on the lawn in front of the house. Yeah. And this is where a lot of the stuff was sealed after of what exactly transpired next because there's been a gag or and it was an ongoing investigation. But the police arrived there and just woke up this. And then there was more 911 calls and the police came. But the two individuals below had apparently they've been staying out of the media for you know good reason

good reason for whatever's going on and they probably were been accused too yeah they were they people oh yeah people thought that it was the girls girls are not capable of this girls aren't that mean girls aren't that girls a single murder possibly i've actually heard a couple uh horrific stories about like girls that have teamed up with each other and they get into like we're us against the world mode and then they attack one person

they perceive to be their rival that happens more than you'd think in like high school middle school even but like four people getting stabbed by a girl doesn't happen with the rainbow knife yeah it doesn't happen are you talking like about the slender man killings

yeah that was one of them yeah they were like 14 that was really weird we should do an episode on Slender Man. Yeah. It was you play the game. No, thanks. But yeah, the two surviving roommates definitely got.

They were accused. Or not by, I don't think, any reputable, like, sources or, you know, but the TikTok sleuths that were like, whoa. And while certainly unfair, I guess it is the simplest explanation. I'm sure that they were, yeah, interviewed by. Not fair at all to put their names in the media and say and accuse them of murder. Yeah. they didn't do they're definitely interviewed the by police to see if they if they were involved in it

definitely if you're uh it's like if you see if there's a woman that's killed your first interview as a cop is probably going to be a boyfriend or a husband yeah because that's the most likely outcome for it but yeah if there's four people in a house think you'd think but sometimes police just missed that because the husband is the police officer next one happens people people You were going to just live after the rest of your life thinking that Casey Anthony's innocent. I don't think she's innocent. I just don't think that she's guilty. You don't have to be proven innocent.

One thing that is now pretty commonplace in these off-campus rental apartments is that every room has a lock individually. And, you know, because sometimes there's parties in the house and, you know, you want all your rooms locked. Yeah. And so these two individuals had their room. rooms locked downstairs so yeah there was I had a roommate in college one time that that installed his own doorknob on his downstairs lock because one of one of my friends that I was living with at the time had been in jail recently for just like a couple months didn't do anything that bad but he had to go to jail and so this random roommate did not

trust my friend and so every time he would leave his room he would lock his door to make sure that nobody like none of us could get in and one time he went and took a shower and he locked himself out of his room and then he had to like ask my friend who had been to jail if he knew how to pick a lock to get him back into his room because he locked it because he was afraid of him and then my buddy had to just break down his door what if it was a test to see if he did know how to break his lock so he needed to get new lock that's smart i like that can you break into this that's smart well it backfired on him because he was i actually think my friend uh my friend pat hard factor pat had to be the one that broke down his his door had to just

like run into it until it came off the hinge um but yeah yeah so people they they were they had rooms locked and they didn't hear anything probably because i don't want to speculate but you guys ever just know side no side no do you ever think about that how like the most prized possessions that you love in this world are like protected by a bolt like this big you know what i'm saying like it's doors are easy to break in like most doors it's wow when you think about that door. Yeah. Well, you know,

front doors are a little better. It depends on what kind of door we're talking about here. Yeah, my, actually, what's your guys' favorite door in the world? Oh. I have a, the circular ones at the airports, the one that keeps it pushing.

Oh, those are scary. I'm afraid. Also, they go slow as shit. I guess you're unathletic, they're scary, but like if you're light on your feet, like most of athletes are. It's just nice, man. It keeps the pace going, it's revolving.

I'm team sliding door. Yeah, I like a sliding door. Big T's right. They're like the airport revolving doors are infuriating. One, because I'm afraid I'm going to try sneak in at the last second and get caught in between the door and the wedge. And then two, after I get in, it moves so slowly that you walk up to the glass pane. And then you have to do this little like... I was in one for two minutes last week at JFK.

that's a cat you can't use that over for too many I'm telling you you should have seen how slow this thing was moving they go slow outrageous about angle first of all you never want to be in the front of it you want to catch it at its end and then you know walk diagonally at a nice pace to you at the end to you I'm a big fan of a vault doors like you know the old refurbished banks like you know old bank buildings are some of my favorite because for some reason banks never use them anymore but they all have built it. in vaults, and I think they're just some of the coolest buildings. They all are built to, like, not have a car go through the side of them, like, built to, like, hold shit. And, like, the bank vault doors in them are just fascinating to me.

Those are some of my favorite movies. The movies that you have a vault breaking in guy, you got to, you know what I'm saying? Like, everybody has that where you put the ear thing to the metal and you hear the clicks and I love those movies. You gotta have a bolt. I need a bolt guy in my life.

I get a bolt breaking bolt guy. Bill, you got one. If you know how to break into vaults, hit us up. We'd like to interview you. You don't have one on your list. You definitely do. I hands up on me. I've neglected the list for a little.

But they also don't have a underwater drone guy. I think, Billy, a little word of advice to you. I think you got to start interacting with the list more. I do. You got to give back to the list because otherwise the list is just going to see you. as like using them i know but i was hoping that the list i'll tell you what i'll tell you what if you're tired of billy and his bullshit come to aryan's list here at aryan no i was hoping the list would use each other like because all these people are such a resource be a resource to each other

and ask each other things but we haven't gotten that that cohesion i think you have to facilitate that so i facilitate so i facilitate by keep asking stuff to try to have a Conversation. You're in New York. You don't do shit we get drunk on a weekend. Be like, yo,

let's meet up at so-and-so. Let's meet up in public places, though. You know what I'm saying? Don't go to private places. Should I just have them over to my house? No. No,

I just had public places. You could also just do like an AMA, but like choose one person from the list to have. So if you have like a marine biologist, be like, we're going to have a Q&A with a marine biologist from the list on Thursday night. And then everyone can ask. Do we do lunch and learn?

I just I'll hop on I'll hop on I'll hop on with you bro I think I got to start the interview stuff again Yeah you need more people on the list No the interview where I like interview people on the list

And then we also have a live chat That was going great But it's you know It's maybe do that a lot of content to be involved Yeah but you're working too hard Bill I'm concerned about you I'm a top 20 blogger I'm a top 20 blogger this company

while podcasting five to six times a week Okay, so let, I mean My favorite door is the one that's on the Oval Office. Yeah, like, I beat out full-time bloggers on the top 20 list. All time. You're the best in the world, God damn it, Billy. Like, put some respect to it.

I really like a door with a good door knob. Yeah. A door knob makes or breaks a door for me. I like a good solid oak. I like an oak door, but that the door that gets you into the Oval Office that you see in movies and TV shows, it's like the wall.

It's a wall that swings in and it's so thick. It looks like a piece of cake almost how that door opens up. I don't know whatever that door is, but if you give me a scene that has that door opening up and shutting solidly,

you have my attention. I take it back. I got a new door. I love the trap doors like that are library cases. I was going to say that. That's fire, dog. I have a trap door in my crib.

It's not as cool, but it's like it's a it's a safe it's a safe house like a safe room so it locks you know what I'm saying so that's the I got protocol for all my on my kids like if something pops off hop into the safe room that's great do you have a statue you pull the head back no I'm not going to tell you where it is because then you know it defeats the purpose but it's not it's not that cool it's not that I definitely one day I'm going to build my own house and just include a lot of childish stuff in it like trap doors vaults actually volts what if I lock myself in my own vault I don't think either

one of those are travelers like a secret like a secret layer but not like a supervillain layer just like a secret layer with like cool stuff like maybe a bunker in it and just like

you don't have a little mermaid I think I have a mermaid in the basement no right you don't remember the little mermaid she had a cave full of like human gadgets and gizmos yeah yeah

Elza was Elza no Ariel Ariel I know, but Elza, wasn't she the evil one? Elsa was in Frozen. Yeah, those are two different. Ursula.

Ursula. Ursula. She, it was her layer? No, it was Ariel. She literally, because she would swim up to the shore and take artifacts of humans. Or she would swim into, like, sunken ships, and she would take, like, artifacts that humans had because she was obsessed with humans. And she would take them back to her caves. So she had, like, forks and utensils and necklaces and all kinds of shoes.

And she couldn't wear them because she had fins. with a bum like shit like that damn i just sent you guys one in the uh group message it's like a dresser and the guy opens the dresser and then there's two sliding doors and it opens up into this like insane room with like a bar narnia yeah yeah i like that i would like to have one of those a little bit more sports breaking news just real quick did you see who texasanem has just hired as their offensive coordinator no bobby petrino really yeah tough toughs times over in college station right now. That's awesome.

That door is fucking fire. That's Bobby Petrino. Hell yeah. Isn't that insane, Aaron? That fucking door is great. That is Narnia. That's lit. Um,

wow. Back to, back to the topic at hand. Yes. Uh, interesting parts from the crime scene that came out much later is, that there was a dog there, and the dog came out totally unharmed and locked away. And this is going to become sort of pertinent later in the story, as well as a cinder block

that was found outside of a window, which many thought that it was used by whoever did it to peer in the window to figure out what was going on, because there was some high windows. there was a parking lot sort of above the house which was sort of at the end of a cul-de-sac but

it was kind of built into the hill so there was like a parking lot above it that you could come down which many thought that's where whoever did it came from

an Australian shepherd was found skinned and filleted three weeks before the killing which they concluded was not related to the homicide we got to figure out

who did that shit Yeah, I'm not sure I believe that, by the way. No, they, it was reported three weeks before there's like a separate, like, who the hell is skinning an animal? Because I, I think this is, I'm saying I don't believe it was unrelated. Yeah. I'll tell you why I think it's unrelated later in the story. But I think that might have been some, some Idaho shit where someone thought they shot a coyote. But then you get up to it and realize you didn't shoot a coyote.

Turns out that happens a lot. There was a woman who got in trouble. I didn't see this on TikTok who shot a wild dog. That was a husky. And she thought she shot a wolf. And she's actually like got charges for killing a dog. But like why is there wild dogs out in the wilderness? Charges for killing it.

Oh my God. So wait. Wait. So the skinned Australian Shepherd. Apparently has nothing to do with now let me call it cap. Yeah, it might be cap. So I don't mind. you get charged for killing a dog

Oh, this is a bad take This is a bad take from you It's not a bad take what you eat for lunch It's not a bad tag Dogs What are you telling you? It's a chicken You had a cow

You had another animal Different Because you say it's different It's another fucking animal But it's insanity It's insanity To take somebody's freedom For killing something

That you eat I think she's arguing That the wild dogs Were threatening livestock So she might get out of it but oh she does free uh becca or whatever name is i just think that if you shoot a dog and then you skin the dog that should probably be looked into so we should take a look at that that's different that's not what i'm saying you should be asked a few questions at that you have a

yeah you probably have a propensity to uh kill things yes yeah i would say so um so anyway so go on billy uh i don't mind gossiping about the killer Okay. Or gossip away. But can you actually hand me a water as you get into this gossip? Is it dry in here? It's a little dry in here. I'm getting parched.

Yeah, I'm definitely, definitely dry. No, but seriously. It's because I haven't had my lunch yet because I've got a big thing. Dry January. I've got a big thing of Kava waiting for me. Did you text or did you tweet about it? No, I haven't tweeted.

I didn't want to start a flash mob. An insurrection at the Kava? No. But I can. I don't know. I guess I'll just, I guess I'll just leave it there. all right billy go off so uh the police scoured the area about a week after the killings they went to a gas station owner and asked him to comb through all of his video camera surveillance from eight uh from ATM uh from any cameras in the air ATMs gas station pumps everything and they caught a white Hyundai alontra speeding um from that night from

that night. This is where I think they first got the tip of who the killer might be. And I think the largest, and basically, I think from my calculations, they found that there was about 19,000 Hyundai Alantras in like a 100 mile radius registered through the university, Washington State, various counties, municipalities. You said through my calculations, you calculated. You said through my calculations you calculated there's 19,000 hundas well because i kept looking up how many hundas were there and there's no like no one did the calculations but like there was they said at one point that there was uh 2,000 Hyundai alontra's registered to the university of idita idaho and there was this many in moscow i saw 90 2000 seems like a lot 90 white ones maybe 2000 seems like it how many

students go to school there i don't university of idaho i'd imagine it's just a lot my guess is $16,000,000 maybe? It's just a lot. And actually, Barstool Sports was involved because they saw a picture of a white Hyundai Alantra in a Barstool, Idaho video. So there's like Barstall Sports, if you don't know, has a Viceroy program where there's many schools that have their own accounts where they can post content from there. How I got hired.

And Avery. And Big T. Oh, wow. I actually got into the vice. program after I left Barstool and created one for a whole league. That was you? Like a whole conference. Oh, wow.

How's it doing? It's super blue. Undrafted? You undrafted, Billy? I was redrafted. I was, I was, uh, regulated down a level. Billy's like, uh, regulated. Billy's, like, uh, relegate, relegated.

I don't watch soccer. Billy's like Ted Williams when he left to go to, to, uh, fighting the military and came back with a real bad math addiction you said you said you watched glass onion right yeah i'm not going to give away but there's a a very critical part of the movie that made me think of you yeah oh whatever um and if anyone's that's seen the movie knows if you know you know you ever you guys ever like to gum up with uh pre-workout i'm not a drug guy but that's nice to taste it it doesn't make it hit any faster it does it doesn't right into bloodstream

it's gumming up it's going up you don't really work out as much as I do that's fine dude I really worked out with you yesterday and then you left halfway through before we did psycho shit yeah so okay

yeah okay yeah dude he did this work out faster than you did no he didn't he just did one set uh no that's okay no you wanted to try this again without lying no I'm not saying set whoa whoa whoa you just said I did one set no I forgot you did one exercise

like one set of sets and then you left yeah i think i did like five sets of bench not including that's including warm-ups yeah yeah including i did yeah i did 10 reps at 135 to warm up and then i stepped it up i'm just saying 185 because it's not then i stepped it up to 205 and then i did 205 again then i did 185 again and then i left and then and then billy goes all right you guys what you want to do some real psycho shit and I was like that's my cue to leave is when Billy starts to that's when we really built muscle introduced the psycho shit I don't need to ever do the bench if you guys if you want to get your bench up um okay I bench as much as you did last summer no you didn't

yeah you remember you didn't max out I had to help you on your max I don't even care no you don't I don't even care no I don't matter you don't I don't it doesn't matter you don't care at all but everybody else stuck around max and please don't print that he can't stuck around but there's this great deceleration lift where if you're benching and you're like you're all gassed like take a mid level weight like yeah use your work set and then just go slow on the decline five seconds from when you're locked out to your chest and then rep out and then once you can't keep pushing it back up have your partner lifted up for you and just keep doing the deceleration and it literally destroys your chest. I forget what it's called, but it's

insane. Um, back to Brian Coburg. Okay. So Brian Coburg. Coburger was born in 1994 in Pleasant Valley, Pennsylvania. He was studying criminology at Washington State. And boy, did he leave some alleged internet paper trail. Okay. Brian Coburger posted in on Reddit at our prisons and criminology student research participation needed. Hello, my name is Brian, and I'm invited, this is on 191 days ago, which I think was in March of 2022. Hello, my name is Brian. I'm inviting you to participate in a research project that seeks to understand how

emotions and physiological traits influence decision-making when committing a crime. In particular, this study seeks to understand the story behind your most recent criminal offense with an emphasis on your thoughts and feelings throughout your experience. In the event that your most recent offense was not one that led to a conviction, you may still participate. Additional surveys are included after the open-ended section as to best understand your unique traits. The study should take about 15 to 20 minutes to fully complete. Your identity and all answers provided are completely confidential. The link to the survey is also anonymous link. The research has been approved by the DeSalle's University IRB. Participants must be

18 years of age and older, if you opt to participate, you may terminate participation at any time and for any reasons. If you have questions about this research, you may contact the research team via email student investigator Brian Coburger at BK5781 at DeSalle's.edu. So this is one who's completing his master's in criminology earlier this year before you went to Washington. So this guy, many are speculating to have been someone who has had a large affinity for serial killers murderers and that's why he's in criminology and his fascination with crimes may have led him to there's a lot of speculating like there's even people who think that he may have found someone through reaching out through his research participation stuff to actually do the crimes

and he was just an accomplished to see like how he could push someone to do it there's all sorts of things flowing around many people it is him um it's it's crazy like he was a he was a he was taught by the same professor who wrote the biography on the BTK killer who was a serial killer in Wichita who used to you know he's buying torture kill buying torture kill and that's the dude that he got caught because he like couldn't help himself and started like sending more letters to the police and stuff yeah left a lot of incriminating evidence yeah on himself and his whole family had no idea in uh actually the daughter of the BTK killer said,

I have ongoing concerns knowing how common it is for criminology students, true crime fans, and others to correspond regularly with my father. That Coburger could have been in contact with my father at some point, but require proof of this, which currently I do not know of. My father and his many murders are studied intensively in the field of criminology. I believe strongly in the training of future law enforcement,

criminology, and forensic minds, and give lectures myself to further educate in these fields. this woman is just you know like thinks that this guy who took the like was currently taking a class with the woman who was a BTK specialist that you know he was modeling because the BTK killer I'm correct was just totally random I yeah he would like scout people out yeah but it was not people that were in his life for the most part yeah the it sounds like the BTK guy I mean he's locked up He doesn't have a lot of stuff to do. He probably just answers, like, all his, all his mail. I'm mad. If anybody wants to interview him. And there have been a few killers that have been in criminology classes or in the field of, like, you know, being a police officer.

And they learn what they used in those classes. And they're interested in that specifically to figure out how to get away with committing a crime. So it sounds like this guy was trying to commit, like, the perfect crime in his mind. Yeah. I think in one of the first things they said when they arrested him was has there been any other arrests made in the thing, which gets even weirder. What I really love is that the Pennsylvania police got a, the exact terminology was a certain type of warrant that basically allowed them to serve the warrant at any time. And they took the whole SWAT team helicopters and busted in at 2 a.m. with his whole family in there just because. that's exactly what he did to the kids and just lit them up in the middle of the night.

That was. If you're a cop and you have like the opportunity to just like use all the toys that you get funded with, like get the tank out there too. Get that involved. And take it for a spin. Scare the ever living crap out of this murderer. Yeah. You got to make sure that you get the address right though. Yeah.

There have been some issues. There was an FBI agent outside his house for four days. before okay speaking of killing dogs there was a i think it happened in virginia a few years ago they like served a no knock warrant newport beach or do my newport news or virgin newport news no no you're talking about mike vick yeah no there was a a no knock warrant that got served and they like kicked down the front door and there was like a golden retriever that like came at the cops and they shot the golden retriever dead that happens a lot and it was the wrong house that they went into yeah yeah

If you're a cop and you shoot a golden retriever, you should not be a police officer anymore. You're a coward. Straight up. You're biting too. Golden retrievers? Probably. I don't know.

Yeah. If I was a cop and I saw a golden retriever running at me, I'd be like, this is awesome. I have this. Back to blue, you know? Back to blue. I have an irrational fear that, like, of getting a noise complaint because I don't want that to happen to my dog. Because you're squatting too heavy?

cops show up no like they they open the door like there's a you know i'm in the backyard and yeah and they just come through and then my dog runs to the door and he's like 100 pounds and he just gets blasted because it's like yeah it's a scary looking dog yeah you're like that's very keeps me keep the noise down yeah it's smart i i had that same fear with leroy one time i i actually did have to call the cops one time in austin because i thought somebody was breaking in my house and so like i had leroy in my hand and as the cops knocked on the door it was like hey just a heads up i've got a very big dog and And he's very friendly.

Please don't shoot him. And they're like, okay, can you just come outside? And so I was like, yeah. And I just snuck outside. But that is a common fear. Like it's, your dog does look terrifying if, if you don't know him. Yeah. Yeah.

He's a big boy. So they broke down this dude's family's house door, pulled him out in the middle of the night. And this is in Pennsylvania. I'm thinking that since this guy planned everything out and he, you know, used his criminology background to plan out the actual. murder. He probably has a couple other surprises waiting for us, right? Like, he's probably thought of what to do if you are, if you are caught. He probably had that, like, planned out. I think this was part of it. I, this guy's like, from everything I've read, everybody says he's

really smart, really, but seemed off. I think you tell that from looking at him. I think he planned it out to about where he would get away with it for a while, knowing he was eventually going to get caught and I think he sounds very confident that like he's going to get off I was reading that he waived his extradition trial in Pennsylvania I think there I just read there they're in on a plane right now taking him back to Idaho and they said he would only do that if he was pretty confident that like they're going to take it to trial and win so or he wants the buzz because Idaho they can't reveal anything about why they served the warrant until he's back in Idaho but the rumor mill around the town like this guy has been very well known for

one oh he's also a vegan and this is going to play into the story later because uh maddie and kaley both worked at a restaurant that served a lot of vegan options in the area and he's a very strict vegan he even made his parents throw out all the pots and pans that have ever been used cooking with meat where did you see this uh heard it from somebody okay who's very who's very close to the case has been tracking it for a long time Okay But basically

He's also known around Center Valley So this is something I found Jordan Sorolnik 34 lives in Center Valley and is the owner of Seven Sirens Brewing Company Sirulnick said

Coburger came to his brewery A few times and female staff Would often complain about his behavior Sirulnick said the brewery is located in a college town It's not unusual for them to get unusual characters. But he remembered Koberger from some interactions he had with female patrons and staff. He said Kober often came by himself, sat at the bar, and was observing and watching. Cyrilnik said staff scans everyone's IDs and they had a system where they can add notes about

a patron that pops up whenever the idea is scanned. Staff put in there, hey, this guy makes creepy comments, keep an eye on him. He'll have two or three beers and then just get a little too comfortable. Shirlnick said Kohlberg would come and ask the female staff or customers who they were at the brewery with where they lived. He said if the women blew him off, he'd get upset with them a little bit, noting that one time he called one of his staff members a bitch when she reviews to answer his questions. These interactions were month ago, Trollnick said, likely when Koberger was a student at DeSales. During their final interaction, Sirulnick said he approached Kovurger. I went up to him and said, hey, Brian, welcome back. We appreciate you coming back.

I just wanted to talk to you real quick and make sure that you had to be, you're going to be respectful this time and we're not going to have any issues. He said Kovberger was taken back. He was shocked that I was saying that. He said, I don't know what you're talking about. You totally have me confused. He said Coburger had one beer and left and never came back to the brewery. So apparently he went to class Sunday morning

finished out the semester after the murders. The murder was November 13th. I want to say. And then that Monday he was at class and apparently his classmates in criminology he went to class Monday and seemed very jovial. He was a TA intended talk over his female teacher. Big in-cell vibes.

Actually, these are my notes. I just wrote that down. that's not from the article okay whatever murders were spoken about in class when the murders

okay this these are my notes that's not from the article so he went to class for Monday he seemed jovial he was laughing he was very

you have like a separate you have like something that that's that separates your notes in the article yeah basically I accidentally wrote these notes

in under the article font but he would talk over teachers and he didn't I mean, we can all tell he has big in-cell vibes, just whenever women are not giving attention. And murdering three women. Yeah, I warned us and assumed sex-haver.

And assumed boy who has sex with girl. Yeah. But yeah, I told you guys, incels, they're fucking dangerous. You didn't have to, like, you're acting like we didn't believe you. I know. Billy, you totally opened my eyes about weirdos, man. but he was very talkative but whenever the murders would come up in class

he would go deadpan apparently from classmates that's not what I well I don't know about his in classes that he was in but the classes he taught I heard one that he talked about the murders in his classes and two because the as a PhD student he was teaching like undergrad classes and that two he was a notoriously difficult grader that every paper kids turned in there'd be a hundred marks on them and he graded really tough and then after the murders he started give just giving everyone as and everything no but

nothing had any notes on it and that everything was graded really easily because he was probably busy yeah doing other stuff and not so the craziest part is that he his father flew out to washington to drive back to pennsylvania with him and i have a feeling from And then he was pulled over twice in Indiana. And basically, during that drive and during his subsequent days since, he did everything he could to make sure not to leave any fingerprints or DNA anywhere by wearing gloves in the grocery store, masks, not throwing out any trash, apparently from sources who were close to law enforcement, who were surveilling him, and would take all these precautions. So there's actually dash cam footage that I'm going to send you guys of him getting pulled over in Indiana the second time. First time he was pulled over for speeding. Second time he's pulled over for what's called.

Sorry. Bumper just like riding too close to the guy in front of him. Tailgating. Tailgating. So the police officer pulled up on him and there's actually a screenshot of him just looking terrified. Yeah, I think he definitely planned this out really. well. I mean, it just goes to the fact of how long it took for them to actually like get his DNA and track him down. So I feel like, I mean, I think he probably watched these girls for weeks,

maybe months and track them down and had this all planned out for a while. He got pulled over a mile from their house in August, I think. Now, he Washington State, Pullman, Washington, I think is only about 15 minutes from where that was. So I guess not entirely crazy that he would have been a mile away from there. But given what happened now, seems like. And that food truck surveillance that was circulating a lot, in the background, you can see a white car do like almost a K-turn. You can't really tell if that's the exact car, but you do see a white car drive past

back up and then turn around and come the other way that night around the food truck. So he could have been following them the entire. night and then speculation says that uh the two girls who worked at a restaurant that had a lot of vegan options and as this guy was so strictly vegan he might have gone there and given them the type of treatment that the brewery owner was talking about if he repeatedly went there because he was only a vegan i mean and that also explains why the dog was untouched and the dog also it was skinned no no the first dog the dog the apartment the apartment or the house yeah okay one of the girls had a dog got you got yeah and the dog was you know this was

one of the things where they got angry at the moscow police like why was the dog taken directly to a uh a facility because maybe they didn't want the dog ruining the crime scene yeah but that makes sense uh also i think i've identified billy's source it was the new york post that said that he was an obsessive vegan that made his family wash pots and pans so mystery solved I mean, that's not, what's wrong with the New York Post? Nothing. They break a lot of stories that other outlets won't even let you report on. That's true.

You probably can't talk about the story on Twitter. Yeah. But no, Billy had said that it was a secret source. Oh, that it was a secret source that he had talked to. And it's weird because the person that they reference in this article in New York Post claims to be his, the murderer's former aunt, which I don't really understand that nomenclature. So an uncle who married. a woman who they then divorced. Ex-ant?

Yeah. I don't think I've ever heard that before. No, I've never heard that. I mean, she probably's trying to distance the hell away from this person. Yeah. But like if your, if your uncle gets a divorce and the aunt is like long gone, like doesn't want anything to do with her nephew. It's just a very sad. It's a very sad thing to say like my ex-aunt.

Yeah. Or ex-aunt. I'm his ex-a-an. He's my ex-nephew. Do you guys say ex-ant or ex-aunt? Ant. Ant. I say aunt, too.

Um. but yeah this dude also his high people who went to high school and described him as he used to be very fat uh and then he started doing drugs uh and then people started dissing themselves from him because like his one of his last friends said that he was texting his girlfriend weird stuff and asking her to come over and drink wine with him to split a bottle anyone anyone who's asking to split a bottle with someone like of the opposite gender like that's that's like

that's even worse than Netflix at chill splitting a bottle of wine yeah do you want to split a bottle pretty normal for people that date Billy yeah right but if you don't date if you're like talking to your friend's girlfriend

would you ever ask tell us friends girlfriend is ex it's friend's girlfriend oh imagine someone's text That's just being a fucking creep. Like, that's just like, you, you disloyal as fuck. But if that

was to go down, I mean, that's a pretty normal thing to request. I'd say, yeah, yeah. I'd say this is pretty smooth line. If you're, like, trying to get with somebody and you're like, hey, you want to split a bottle of wine? I'm saying that's like basically. I'm going to go say, that's actually kind of, I might take that. I mean, every day else you did is fucking insane.

Yeah. That's pretty a bottle of wine. It's actually it's not like you want to have a glass. It's like, more do you want to share in this moment with me that's not bad actually it's like i know but i got this bottle of arbor mist with our name on it baby uh dude okay so it's just something you shouldn't say to your friend's girlfriend correct so absolutely this guy then after high school got into like boxing apparently he was very like huh oh he's trying to all right here people here's there's a question here's a question here's a question all right this is for the group your home boy has your home boy's girl

they're very open sexually they got a she has her only fans and you want to support do you support no yeah I don't think I I can't do it can't do it

no I don't think you can yeah I agree why do you ask Karen I got a friend that's going through this you're in a predicament what's his friend's name Philip

Yeah Phillip How's uh What was Philip rated in Madden I think that kind of part I'm just saying I'm just like they Like they got like an open relationship basically

Okay But I'm not I would never do it I'm just saying like No I would love to I mean Y'all know how I feel about

Only fans anyway Like I'm not I get free porn sites I'm not gonna pay you To get me horny but it's a wild it's a wild uh thing that that had crossed my mind of like if somebody was to be in that position what would they do so i was just seeing what kind of what kind of what would y'all do i would probably say no that'd be weird well it also it's like how long

have they been dating that sort of situation yeah i mean how close are you to to both of them i think there's a lot of a lot of variables there yeah um so so bill he became a boxer after high school what else and he was always trying to fight people and uses boxing skills okay that's illegal yeah you can be put in jail for uh assault with deadly weapon yeah yeah if if you're registered but if your registration expires it's a little bit of a gray area but it's weird um but so if you look at the the that the officer body cam footage you do see his hands are kind of messed up which is kind of weird because if it occurred so many months ago it probably would have healed from November but you can kind of see it in some of his arrest

photos too that it's messed up hands um because like if you're stabbing that many people you're probably going to accidentally cut yourself yeah well it so the type of knife i was just to say the type of knife that he used. Most people, so most murders are, if you have like a big knife that just has the handle and the blade and there's multiple stab wounds on it, then you look for a person that has

very damaged hands and fingers because as you're stabbing, your hand slips and gets cut by the blade. Apparently this knife had a hilt on it. So it had the handle and then like a blocking part that separated it from the blade

itself is a K bar yeah is that what's called the K bar and so when you stab with it your hand doesn't slide up onto the blade it's meant for killing people yes basically it's it's using like the military yep yeah and so that's what he had um so he was able to like get away with not having his i think he planned this out like pretty extensively and and you you were talking about um well no there was a movie law abiding citizen remember that movie fantastic movie that's another great one where the person had like a bunch of shit planned out for after he got arrested I'm saying that Koberger has like that type of thing planned out but he's a criminology major almost a doctorate he's very clearly trying to commit like the perfect crime he he has something

planned for after he gets ready whether that means that he's going to like represent himself in court and then use that as a platform to get whatever he wants to get off his chest out definitely has a god complex he might yeah but I'm just saying like this is probably not the end for his plan right now they think I mean criminologists and speculative They just, like, think that the girls' rooms were locked downstairs, but there's a certain element to killers who have a god complex and they're like, he let the women downstairs live or he didn't know what was going on down there. Yeah.

Might have not even known it existed. Well, it makes it that leaves logical suspects. True. If you don't kill everyone in the house. Yeah, that might have been part of the equation. I would have to. Like a murderer, Big T, I like it. Well, I mean, that's fairly common sense.

What's scary is he had the research article that he reached out to people and asked for them to basically tell them if they had ever committed a murder, this and that. And then he goes to the thing the other day and he's like, did they get anybody else? There's also. So it makes you almost think that there could be other people involved. There's also rumors like there's TikToks and a guy on a true crime podcast. who claims that he may even called in instead because there's like a TikTok where some guys like going, this is a crime scene. There was blood. There wasn't blood there. The blood was there. And then like when it shut, when the screen shuts off, the reflection looks like a guy

who looks like Kobe. I saw that. Yeah. It's like a guy basically explaining the murder, but very specifically of like basically facts that you just wouldn't know unless you were part of it. That wasn't him. I saw a, I saw a thing that went. into that and the guy found the YouTube channel that that has been it was the same username and it had stuff from years ago and it was a guy that's not him see isn't that crazy how convincing it is like I almost like felt like it was so real but TikTok is just crazy how they just but did you all see the video of the guy walking into the vigil at Idaho yes they did see that look like him no it's it's like one wide shot camera it's in their football facility uh not their uh their stadium they have a dome

and there's a guy that walks into the frame walking very awkwardly tall skinny guy and you can only see like the side of him but it looks pretty like the guy the the police were definitely thinking that the murder was going to show up at that vigil because it fits the the pattern and the emo and there have been some cases where somebody's given like quotes they get involved in like the investigation or they seem like they're around the news a little bit too much and that they're in the spotlight and that's that's also something that they look for so he wouldn't shock me at all if he did go to the vigil yeah let me find that video do you have any idea do we know anything about why his dad flew out there uh apparently

to help it was planned before i think the the family released a statement and i think that they're from the statement it sounded like oh yeah brian laundry ask no no more like yeah we kind of know he did it yeah like it is because his sisters like i think i don't want to like you know innocent people sisters who like they posted about like you've all day like mass shootings like they seem like a very normal normal family with maybe like an odd ball son and you know you could tell that in the in the indiana like the father seemed kind of slow in unassuming yeah like oh we just got pulledovers like very like almost not senile but just old like not capable of being complicit murder yeah also if your son asked you to like drive across the country you're probably going

to do it or like i want to spend time with you son i haven't like i'll fly out and like drive with you you've been so wrapped up in your studies yeah yeah so this guy it sounds like he he planned it all out i i think it'd be a good experiment for a different episode for us to plan out a bank robbery on the air I think that would be a good idea I just honestly could we Is can Are we allowed to rob your bank

Just any bank out there Just let us Do a simulated robbing Yeah We like we'll set it up Like we'll have actors Pretending to be customers And just like let us see

If we can like rob your bank Well I think the hard part Is getting away with robbing the bank I don't even want to do the getaway part Just like the go in rob the bank I think I could Wait wait I think there's I'm curious

when you mean rob the bank do you just mean take the money but they know that they're gonna get it back yes but what's the point of that we get all dressed up we run in and say everybody get on the floor but they're but they're actors but hold on but they're actors

too just to the customers you can I bet you're so your idea is to terrorize you want to traumatize you want to traumatize the workers who are already underpaid let the workers know No, bank.

So you just want to cosplay a robbery? I think that's all what we wanted to do, right? I don't want to do that. I just want to figure out the way to get away with the bank robbery. PFT wants to imagine how we could get away

with a robbery, not commit robbery. Because I think we could play. It's impossible to get it. I still stand by the fact that it's pretty much impossible to get away with murder. right now. Yeah, I think this guy was like trying. Yeah, I think so too.

I think in all of his classes, probably there's something like it's impossible to get away with murder. There's too much stuff. There's every app that you have on your phone tracks or sends back to a server that can identify your location, cell phone towers. We got cameras on every road at every toll booth, cameras at every store. Digital footprint. There's just, it's pretty much, I think it's impossible to get away.

You would have to have never used any piece of technology. ever kill someone that you've never met and still be like a very smart criminal i think that the only way that you could do it is what sounds like what this guy was trying to do is a complete stranger yeah random if this is him this guy has the goofiest walk of all time this video that looks weird right look at the side profile and say i look nothing like this guy please because that was a little offensive oh yeah big t claimed that billy looked like him you don't look nothing like i look nothing like this guy you look something like something from the side

not from the side the side is actually you look more from the side than straight on are you kidding me Billy no one's saying that you're a murder which I know

but she's like I don't want to this guy looks like Dennis from always sunny which actually I feel bad for was the cosplay

a robbery I think he might be a murder I do feel bad for Glenn Howarton who played this like psychopath character and now a guy

who looks exactly like him kind of did this you know who you look like Big Tea? Oh, boy. Wait, no, there's actually a Big T doppelganger. I don't know if you guys saw, you guys got tagged in that video, the guy dancing.

That guy didn't look like that. Yes, he did. PFT, did you see this? I don't know. Which guy dancing? I mean, y'all are going to say he did just because, like, we're doing this now, but that guy doesn't. I don't think Big T, no offense, Big T, you don't strike me as somebody that could, like,

cut a rug. I think you're more of a, like, step, clap. Like, you can step and clap on time, but I don't think, you don't think I could cut a rug? I don't think you have any moves. Okay. I mean, do you have moves? Bobby Hill. Doubt at your own peril.

Do you have moves? I don't know. I think that you fall into your pattern and you just own that pattern. You don't try to do too much. I'm not saying you're bad dancer. That's fair. I'm saying that you're a good, you know your role. I'm going to say he's a bad dancer.

I'm going to say he's a rhythm. You look like Richard Kiklinski. I don't think that he's a bad dancer or a bad rhythm person at all because remember when he did your rap song? Yeah, I was offbeat a little bit. It was cool that he got the words right, though. It's the first time I'd ever heard the song. I'm not mad. What are you mad at me?

I'm just, odds aren't in your favor. I would love to see you dance, and I'll be your biggest fan if you're a good dancer, Big T. I just don't think you can't dance. You don't pass the eye test. Maybe we'll go out in a few weeks. We'll see. Let's get it.

Let's get fancy, Big Tee. Let's have a dance off at the live show. I don't dance, man. I can dance over for that. No, I'm boogie. I got somewhere to do it. I got rhythm. I can boogie, but I'm not a dancer, bro.

My mom says I'm a great dancer, but I don't know if that's... I got boys. I got some homies that can dance. They ass. I'm talking about like, or I tell you, they can dance. Like, I used to be jealous. Like, you go to the clubs and like, these dudes get behind females and they got moves. They could just do the damn thing.

From behind? A lot of girls like that. From behind in the front. Like, bro, they could like literally like... Wait, wait, I'm just saying... It's different. How do the females appreciate the dancing if they're, facing forward.

Oh, come on. Have you never danced with a woman before? I don't want to explain it to know. Billy gets never danced with the woman. No, I have. I don't think you. My mom takes up a great dancer. She said, but I don't know if that's like a dancing only your mother could love.

That's absolutely what it is because of what you just described to me. Have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever, have you ever dancing? I think you just told her yourself. No, when you're talking about dancing, like my friends are great dancers, I forgot. I was more thinking of break dancing. And then I was like, oh, dancing with them. As opposed to like dancing at, do you dance at a woman? They're like dancing with a woman.

In a different capacity. Yeah. You think black people can only break dance. No, no, like solo dancing because we were talking about a dance off originally. Whatever. I'm so confused. Anyways. We just talked himself to a hole.

I. But hold on. Have you ever danced with a dance with? the woman? Yes, I know how to fox trot. I know how to... What year is this? I know how to salsa a little. I know how to like swing dance. Marengue. You sauced?

I could do a little salsa. Have you salted though? Give me a taste. I wasn't the best. Give me a little sauce. I may have done a little bit of like a dance class once. That's nice. Did you do like a cotillion?

No, no I was just to say That's what a lot of kids learned from The trick to salsa dancing As far as I know Is you had Yeah do like hands Yeah do this with your hands

With yeah And the hips go at the same time Hips It's definitely his I took a salsa class one I took it It was actually a really lot It was like one of those

Afterschool activities That your parents sign you up for When you're younger Like in between sports I don't remember any of that And you can like Take a couple of those Oh

You just copy Oh did you got this shoulder movement Yeah yeah and then you got it Then you got to swing the girls Oh Shake him a little bit You could be on dancing with the star Are you famous enough to be on Dancing with the Stars?

No Are you sure? No, yeah It's rich enough Yeah you know I'm rich enough I'm rich enough Yeah you're definitely famous enough

They've had less famous people than you No because I The audience for dancing with stars Is like six year old women Right Athletes, X, ex-athletes. Ariane, would you ever think about doing it? I don't dance, I told you.

I'm not at, like, I have rhythms, though. They teach you. I'm going to look through the cast and see if they've had someone less famous than PFT. Absolutely they have. Absolutely they have. In terms of knowing, yes, like there have been less. Maybe the first person on here. I've never heard of this person.

Who is it? Trista Suter. No idea. An American television personality, physical therapist, and dancer. who was the runner up on season one of The Bachelor. Oh, she was the first ever Bachelorette. Oh, okay. Okay, that's from a long time I got you got to go.

But still, that's a thing. That hits their target audience, right? Yeah, you may not be in the target demographic, but Arian, ex-NFL player who says he doesn't dance and wants to find, it's like a Hallmark movie. He finds his love of dance and falls in love with rhythm. That's the point of dancing with the stars. And then you and your partner.

probably Petra or whoever have like amazing chemistry and they're like are they dating like it's a whole thing oh this person's less famous than you what a what a story i love it betty i might i might check to see what's going on i love dancing with the stars jazelle fernandez is an american television journalist and anchor for spectrum news one isn't that just a local station in new york no spectrum news one is everyone who says spectrum oh is it yeah jazelle fernandez yeah i think you're more famous than her. I think I might be. You, man, there's been plenty. You're, you guys are, like, Drew Lichet. There's a second Lichet.

Oh, I'm way more famous than Nick Lachet's brother. There's a, I didn't know there was a second Lachet. No, he was in 98 degrees too. Yeah, he was. If this was, if this was 1997, he's like, yes, the dude was, he was at top of his game. On fire. But right now, yeah, true Lichay, my Q score is way above his. Okay, yeah, no, you're more famous than several of these people. But, but, but he gets, It's the runoff from being Nick Lechay's brother on that show. Right. Also, people kind of recognize it.

Also, women enjoyed 90 degrees. And women don't enjoy. I'm a woman that enjoys part of my take. I was listening to it this morning. Willa Ford, have you all heard of her? Yes. Yes. I actually, actually.

You should know exactly who Drew Lechay is. He's from, he's from Ohio. Yes, they are. Oh, wait. Something about the case might get. He might arrive. in Idaho soon, they might be able to release. Yeah, they're on the, they're on the plane right now.

I saw a tweet about it. It stopped in Illinois to refuel or something. Shit, we, what if he gets broken out? What if he's like El Chapo? What if we, like, do an update? Like, we're going to air this and like a huge thing broke. I don't think anything massive is going to.

No, because once he gets in Idaho, they'll release the arrest warrant and what to have on him for probable cause. How do you know where he's playing this? Somebody was tracking it. You can track any. playing you want it's registered to the this person was doing it it's it was registered on twitter pennsylvania department of

that's that's that's that's that's doxing according to daddy Elon don't be don't be don't be following people's planes on Twitter's care yeah um yeah I don't think I don't think there's going to be anything massive that comes out I do like the idea that we still have these old laws in the United States where we can't say anything about the man until he gets back inside the borders of Idaho. It seems like very wild west, doesn't it? Yeah. I kind of like that. I've been watching 1883 and it's pretty sick. Do you watch also Yellowstone? Yeah.

It's pretty cool. Yellowstone is like Sopranos with mountains. I had an audition I did not take seriously. Never. For Yellowstone? What? Yeah, I had an audition for Yellowstone. What? What? Which I was like, hello? I have no idea. And that was years ago. I had an audition and I didn't want to do it. My man was like, Yo, Kevin Koster's going to be in it. You guys had good energy with draft day. I was like, ah, whatever. I didn't really, I didn't even read the script till going to the audition. I was just, I didn't take it serious.

I didn't know what it was. I'd have been cool if I took a series. What, got that bitch? Yeah, what was your role? Do you remember, like, the lines? I've never seen, no, I've never even seen the show. You were probably going to be one of the cowboys. You were probably going to be one of the guys that lives in the bunkhouse.

I think I was a cowboy. I can remember that. I think I was, yeah. Because there is an African-American cowboy that lives in the bunkhouse. And now he's like kind of dating slash sleeping with one of the cowgirls that's in there. And he's got he's got like a beard like you do. They probably wanted you to be. Yep.

Yeah. Man, sliding doors moment. That would have definitely gotten you on dancing with the stars. That's the life goal, man. He's to dance with the stars. Try again on 1923. What's that? I don't know what did it.

I haven't, like my agent for that shit just doesn't send me scripts anymore because I just stopped doing them. I just fell out of love with it. Can you look at your text message history with that agent and see find the script? I don't know if I do because I got a new phone that didn't care of them. I need you to find the script because I want to find out what role you are auditioning. Like what if you were going to be like Kevin Costner's like son-in-law or something? What if he was going to be Kevin Costner? What if you're going to be Rip?

Yeah, what if you're going to be Kevin Collins? Oh, yeah. I have her. I don't have her thread. It's gone. Who's Rip is that Kevin Costner? No, Ripitt is Cole Houser. He's the big guy that, like, is in charge of all the cowboys.

He's the black hat. I don't watch it. My parents are obsessed with that. He's in charge of all the cowboys. He's a classic black hat in a Western. I just think Kevin Cosner is very handsome. He keeps shit in line around the Yellowstone Ranch. Yeah.

He, you know, knows where the bodies are buried. Got it Yes, literally Actually In a county with zero population Anyways Anywho I don't think anything is going to break

Like by the time this comes out tonight No It might He's supposed to be here They're there today It's actually really bad planning on our part It'll be fine We're working with I

You know what I'll do They'll do an extra dose on I'll do an extra dose don't hopefully it breaks if it breaks in a time where Avery hasn't caught the podcast I'll give a little update Avery are you okay with that? Is that a shot at me? No no like if you're totally done with the podcast I'm not going to be like

add this in oh no I know by by the way everybody clapping up Avery's birthday Oh yeah happy birthday We all said it before we start Ricari Happy birthday I can't yeah you're working on your birthday Hardest working on the man in show business what 25 25 wow quarter life

big two five you're assuming that you'll be a hundred yeah I'd hope so well not not hope so I would I forget what age I said I would want to live to we talked about that on the last episode look at the screen look at the screen check me out check me out you ready yeah oh oh well birthday cakes no I think if I live to like 85 I'll be happy wow yeah yeah yeah that's a good that's a good age yeah you got anything big plan today you can rent a car now and you can rent a house I can I think you can't you could probably rent a car before you turn 25 but you have to pay like extra insurance now it's like in the eyes of insurance adjusters you are an adult now you can't rent a house like a beach house but you can rent an apartment no I'm not talking about like short term rental if you do like a short term rental yeah okay when does the age stop where you don't start getting like things like that this is your last one is this it no next next one's last one I have to go on my own insurance oh yeah but that's a bad thing that is a bad thing and then a

that point it's like nothing is cool until you turn what is it 60 and you get Medicaid and that's when you get Medicaid yeah oh okay all right I need to start getting some more surgeries because I just I think I'm gonna get LASIC I actually asked for LASIC for my birthday I don't really like gifts I just but like I'm sick of contacts I'm done yeah you should you should do it I heard it's unbelievable change your life I didn't get my nose done because I'll stop sounding nasely like I can't breathe through my nose right now. I think it hurts my pronunciation. I do need to get my nose done too. Do you want to go, dude, from when it got broken? I'd love to get one. Yeah, my shit got my shit got fucked up my junior year in college, need them to break it back into place. Can you breathe?

It's getting more difficult at night sometimes. I've got these new nose pieces that I just shove up there and it works decently. But in the middle of the night, like I think while I'm sleeping, I rip it out because I always wake up. And I have this nose piece imprint on my skin. I do need, I just need to get it put back into place. I feel like it's getting more out of place, the older that I get. That's what they say about your body. He's dropping nose emojis in the chat.

Aryan nose. They say that about you, like, whatever bigger features you have, as you get older, they get even bigger and more pronounced. Yep, they grow. My grandpa, RIP, Grandpa, Macon, man we used to make fun of his ears because that boy ears used to just drop he's got bigger everything starts sagging yeah so i got to i got to get this shit fixed before i get any older big ears yeah um okay so we got anything else about this billy that you want to get into

um it's gonna be a long trial man like it's gonna be like if they're going for the death penalty i mean this could this case could be three to five years also oh they have They have the death penalty, Idaho? Yeah. Damn. If it's capital punishment, yeah. No longer horse thievery. That was on the book, I was actually looking up, like, that was on the books pretty recent there.

If you steal a horse, you can get killed. Yeah. What do you guys feel about that? I feel like I would just want them to rot in prison. Like, I feel like the death penalty is like too quick and easy of a death for a sicko like that. Yeah. Also because he would have exposure to criminologists. and people to study him.

Yeah. There's a couple reasons why I don't agree with the death penalty. One is because if you kill an innocent person, that's fucked up and it makes everybody murderers because we pay taxes that go towards killing that. Right. And we have killed innocent people. Like, that's just a factor of menace people to get executed. And that's like the worst thing imaginable is somebody that had nothing to do with it,

gets killed by the state. Two, it's not a deterrent. So it's been studied and there's absolutely no reason to have it on to, to, there's no reason why you would think that it deters people from killing murder or from committing murder. Because if you're going to commit a murder, you're going to do it. You've reached that point in your mind where you're not going to like weigh the consequences of it. It's like you want to kill this person. So you're going to kill them. I feel like you're more inclined to do it.

If there's death. Because they know they're just going to, it's an easy out. Like they don't have to rot in prison. It could be. Um, and I, I think that if you just look across how it's enforced to, the death penalty is enforced, uh, at a much greater percentage on people who get convicted of murder who don't have money as opposed to people who get convicted of murder that have money. So it's essentially saying like if you, if you're able to afford this great big lawyer, then you're not going to be punished to the same extent as anybody else. It's not equitable enforcement. Um, it's not it's actually been studied, uh, to not, to, to not be a deterrent whatsoever like police chiefs across the country say that it's not a deterrent and also it's just not up to the government I think to kill somebody right did you see the van tell us take a moment and appreciate his explanation for that was beautiful p.m. I mean it's

something that I've thought about a long time and obviously if like somebody if somebody murdered somebody close to me I would want that person to die for sure like if you're I understand that instinct where it's like you need to kill them I I want this person to die, get them off the face of the earth. I completely understand that. So if it was like, if something happened to a family member or a friend of mine, I would 100% understand like why somebody would want the murderer to be punished in the worst way possible. But I think if you zoom out and you look at the entire perspective of it,

it's not always, it doesn't lend itself to being a good solution as far as the government goes for being able to kill people. Yeah. I think the main, I agree with you a thousand percent on that. I think the main purposes that you listed were the one that you missed was it's more expensive than just keeping them in jail for life. Two, it is the fact that there can be an innocent person murdered by the hands of the state and there has been innocent people murdered by the hands of the state is fucking ridiculous. It's just, it's ridiculous. And it doesn't make any logical sense to kill somebody to prove that killing somebody is wrong. This don't make any sense.

There's not, I haven't heard a valid argument for it yet. But the revenge factor, like four families is something I can't speak on, right? Them wanting them dead, I understand that emotion, you know what I'm saying? And I will never argue with that emotion, you know what I'm just saying? The other perspective that you laid out, logically it makes more sense to not. But other than that, I haven't even heard a valid argument for it. Yeah, and obviously, like, I think the vast majority of people that are put to death are guilty of the crimes that they've done. That's not my argument.

My argument is that, like, if you kill an innocent person, that's the worst thing that you can possibly do as, as, like, if you look at our judicial system and at our government, it's like you put an innocent person in jail for something that they didn't do and they have to die now because of your missteps. That's fucked up and that makes everybody murderers. So by that logic, by that logic, what's your opinion on state-sponsored assisted suicide? I think it's up to the individual. what do you mean state sponsored I'm not I don't I'm not in favor of like the government coming to your door and killing you I think that if you make a choice that you want to do it

personally and it's between you and your doctor you should be allowed to do it what do you think about Canadian their Medicare system suggesting assisted suicide to people who are having on that's not

uncurable I don't I don't think that it's government murder I think it's it's not suggest also I don't just talking It's not suggested. Like, that is the absolute last resort. Like, nobody says, you know what? We're kind of out of options to kill yourself. It's never like that, though.

It's a very long, arduous process. No, I think what is... Of course there's complaints. I think what it is, is like, the Canadian healthcare system is run by the government. So they're saying, like, if you have terminal cancer, one of the options that you have is you can commit, you can do physician-assisted suicide, and that cost, will be borne by the government because it's a health care option. And sometimes that's just not providing things like, you know, breathing up, like pulling the

plug, basically, where people, families make that decision on the daily, families make that decision on the daily in this country. I was like, shoot, can we afford to keep them alive and long enough? You know, all those, like, health care is a very complicated to talk about, but to chalk it up as the government says, we're going to sponsor your suicide. It's just not, it's just not a, I've heard that shit before. And it's just not a, it's not a genuine argument for that position. It's not a genuine argument.

I don't think the government shows up at your door and they're like, okay, here's a guy from the army that's going to kill you. No, no, that's not what I'm saying. So a 52-year-old retired corporal who completed in the 2016 Paralympics at Rio de Janeiro testified to lawmakers that a VA official had offered in writing to provide her with medically assisted suicide. The case officer remains unnamed, reportedly made similar offers to at least three other veterans. according to the independent. Okay. Where is this? Canada.

Okay. So it sounds. Even if they, that could be a one-off, right? That could be a one-off, but it's not enforced by the state, which is the topic. It's not, that's, that's, that's not, that's, that's not, that's, that's, do you think that's ethical? Do you think that's ethical to try to, to push people to ending their own lives instead of trying to find a solution? I, I think that, uh, in cases of terminal cancer and where somebody's at the end of their life giving somebody an option if they want to do that i think that's like one of the more

compassionate things that you can do right but in these instances i don't i don't know anything about the specifics of this person are are the people that they were talking to or what the offer looked like yeah it's a very it's an anecdotal thing if that if that person was like hey i'm i'm the head of the VA and uh everybody that i've talked to just kills himself if they're dealing with this and here's a number that you can call and we'll take care of the rest. That seems like it's bad and off the books and it seems like very shady. But I do think that if you reach a point in life where you're in constant debilitating pain and you want to end your own life, I think that's a very, that's the most personal decision

that you can make and the government should not have a right to interfere with that. That's what I think. So it's like I'm not making an argument based on the sanctity of life, I'm not doing the Sanctity of Life anti-death penalty argument. I'm saying that the state should not be involved in killing people because it's not going to be 100%, it's not going to be effective, number one, and two, it's not going to be 100% accurate. They're not going to just kill innocent people.

Whereas if you're making a personal decision, letting the state allow you to make that decision for end-of-life treatment for yourself, I think that's, it's an individual choice. I think, I don't know, I just sort of relate. late those two arguments because a lot of suicidal people, even by situational depression, end up if they attempt and then come back out, like there's a large percentage that, like, say that the current state of mind they were in at that moment was very short sighted and they wish they never made that decision to attempt.

That's for a suicidal person that is not at like their end of life. Right, right. That's a completely different discussion. But this was in instances, in instances of non-end of life. That's what I was talking about. So there's several ones from the VA, like VA. So in this one person, not one person, several people. The three people that were talking to this one person is what I'm saying.

They were not terminal patients. They were just like depressed. And the person's like, here's how you kill yourself. Depressed, drug addicts, homeless people. It's a whole like, it's pretty scary when you read into what's going on. Well, no, I'm trying to figure out what's going on. And you've said that there was one person that was accused of this. Let me pull up on three.

And this person's fucked up. if that's what the case is. I'm telling you, like, if it was a drug addict and then, like, a depressed person and the individual at the VA in Canada was like, here, here's how you kill yourself, of course that's a terrible thing. I don't think you look at it like that. You look at it, like, from a systematic point of view. Like, if somebody's saying, like, yo, you should probably like, hey, man, there's always

suicide. Yes, bro, that's wrong. Nobody's, nobody's saying that. But we're saying it, like, systematically, I highly doubt that a health care system is pushing people to kill themselves. That is the complete opposite of all the literature and psychology and everything. That's the opposite of what they teach in those schools. It's the opposite of what all these doctors learned. So for you to posture that that is the policy, I highly doubt it. I'm like I'm saying. I haven't read on what you're saying, but I just highly

doubt that. I don't have the exact examples besides that when I brought up with me because I was not prepared to argue this point. But it's just interesting to bring up in the death penalty discussion because there have been many examples of people in Canada in probably other places where they provide this assistance where it was totally situational places and they offered them and they could have done it if it sounds like they don't provide the assistance it was somebody that was I'm reading the article right now on the CBC the Canadian CBC and there is a paraplegic it was a Paralympian that wanted wheelchair access to their house

and the person said if you're so desperate madam we can provide you medical assistance in dying the person at the VA wrote back to them which is it sounds like it's completely over the line for them to be like suggesting that you kill yourself in that situation

so that yes that that individual and it sounds like that was against the law what the person did so they're but it's been several instances there's I it would take a while to bring up the exact ones. Okay, but I don't think it's inconsistent at all to believe that you should be able to make your own end-of-life decisions

and also not believe in the death penalty. I think those are very, you can definitely hold both those beliefs. I don't think that there's a conflict there. Now should the government show up and be like, hey, I've noticed that you have a limp. You want a gun? Like, here's a rope. here's a big bottle of clonopin and uh 12 shots of jack daniels i don't think that the government

should do that obviously right but should you be allowed to kill yourself if you're suffering from cancer and you've undergone all the treatments that you've been through yeah and you've been fighting this for like seven years uh and you just don't want to deal with the pain anymore yeah that's that's you're right you should be allowed to do that and not have to worry about like your family members getting arrested or thrown in jail for helping you, you know, go through that process. Because right now in America, if you, in most states, if you are helping or aiding at all in that act,

then you can be held responsible. You can be arrested and put in jail. Oh. Which I think is fucked up. Like smothering. Not smothering. I'm not talking about like with a pillow, Billy. Sorry.

I'm just. Like if you have medicine, that you give to somebody or something along those lines. That's interesting because we don't believe that's the case. Because if it was the case, then we wouldn't, or maybe it's illegal now. Is it illegal enough for them to give astronauts that out? I think it's arsenic or whatever in space.

Oh, I don't know. Oh, I think they did have cyanide capsules. It's cyanide, that's what it is. So that, I mean, if that's true, then we don't actually believe that. You know what I'm saying? Because what we're saying is like, yo, if there's no other way out, like, then yo this is your only option they're saying that there that is a plausible option but we're I guess what they're saying is they don't believe that you're wise enough to make the decision is

if your your instances is is plausibility for to end your own life or not that's what they're saying which is anti-freedom oh if you get stranded like on the moon inside the moon or the the lunar module then uh and there's like no way to get out get off the moon and you know that your oxygen just going to run out in like an hour and a half, two hours, however long that would be, then yeah, they gave you, I think that's what it was for. They also give you a gun. No, that was the cosmonauts. They gave the cosmonauts, the Russian guys.

They're like, here's a gun in case you crash land and there's bears. Okay. Wink, wink, hey, man, like, that's wild. Like, that'll be lit. Bears on the moon? No, no, if you crash land on your way home and you use this gun. And then, like, here's a gun in case. you know, you're the Russians in Siberia and there's bears, but also if there's bears in your brain when you have no oxygen, kill those bears too. Yeah. If there's a bear of a situation.

If you can't bear the situation. Any type of bear, use this gun on. So we got anything else on the Idaho situation? Oh, Donnie and I have organized with some people we're going to go search for the mammoth bones in the East River. Okay. It might be this weekend. So Donnie and I are working on some serious stuff with Fasoli. Do you have, I almost don't want to ask you more to questions about this. A boat? We have a boat.

The boat's the easy part, I would think. How are you going to get to the bones? You know I'm a good swimmer. It's about diving. Ew, don't, don't. What? He's going to wear a wetsuit, right? Yeah.

I don't care. It's the East River. Yeah. The East River is clean as fuck right now. It's not your parents' East River. This is, you know, tons of liberal policies East River. Also, aren't you going to be chilly? Yeah, I jump in the water all the time at this time of year.

Oh, yeah, I saw you did your polar plants. Oh, Mama mad dogs. Kind of look out feet, though. Like, you're going to be cold. Also, it is like 60 degrees here, though. But the water temperature is still going to be cold. The water doesn't have enough time to warm up. Man, I just said it's going to be 30 when I get there.

It's hot It's 60 right now I started to put on shorts this morning And I was like people People just judge me But it's hot enough to wear shorts I got that little spring fever feeling Where you just start feeling really impulsive

And it's like oh son Nice weather Now you want to jump in the East River The East River is as clean as it's been Since the American Civil War Hell yeah That's when we had factories Thanks Greta

Thanks Greta Oh yeah shout out to Greta for Thanks Cuomo Billy loves Greta. For putting my, for putting my enemy away. Andrew Taye? I thought,

I thought Billy was an Andrew Tate guy. Yeah. I'm not. I think it's funny. Like most of the population, I do not sponsor any sort of human trafficking. Didn't get out of Hustlers, you.

Mood. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. It's hard to get into than Harvard. Yeah. I don't want to be a part of his agenda. Andrew Tate,

he's, he's in jail. He's, uh, or he's, he's detained. Dub. Right now for the next like 28 days or however long it is.

The Matrix got his ass Maybe one of the worst ideas is to Write down all the crimes that you're committing And publish them Years before you get caught for committing the crimes Also he Digital footprint got him Yeah oh for sure

Like he had written The pizza box Yeah Well I don't know if that that part might not be true Yeah that was that was BS I thought that was it It wasn't true The lady who did just looked for his last post

from Romania and that was his last post that showed he was in Romania so that's how they claimed they knew he was in the country I'm honestly starting to think that it was staged by Andrew Tate because if you look at the vehicles they used the

Romanian SWAT teams gear you know it's federal federal police in Romania yeah they don't fuck around like they're using their the stuff they get from Russia

all the military equipment the russians send them so that they can have a puppet government there type stuff okay so what what does that have to do with the arrest like why do they just pull up in a sprinter van instead of a like something to actually transport a like uh and why they keep the van open the whole time while he's pulling away like that is easily away for a guy like that to get shot i don't know i honestly don't i don't know the answer to that question jack mac has a good video on it okay but what is the implication of like they oh they left the door open they wanted him to get shot by somebody well nowadays there's definite like when you're dealing with a prisoner they ensure that they're secure and like something is high big of a crime as that like a guy like

Andrew Tate might have like political like but he wasn't killed by anybody yeah right but the they there was a lot of protocols as usual in detaining suspects like that that weren't followed in that video. I'm saying Andrew Tate did it himself. I'm saying it's publicity son. You're saying that the the vehicles were not actually Romanian police. Or maybe they were, but Andrew Tate paid him to do that. Yeah, they're unmarked sprinter vans. Okay. I don't think you know enough about you're not a top G right now. I don't think Andrew Tate would do that. You don't have the PhD, which is pimping hose degree that he had at Hustlers University. That's actually what it was.

Are you serious? I wrote like an Andrew Tate blog that would have gotten millions of clicks and we're just not posting Andrew Tate blogs. Okay. On, he got arrested. Andrew Tate arrested. You think that's not going to get clicks on the barstool fucking blog? Crazy, bro. They're trying to silence you.

Okay. Oh, I just want my click so I can stay in the top 20. Say who it is. Say who's silencing. No. Were you silent or were you silenced? No, just in my drafts. Nate's not publishing the energy.

Check Billy's drafts. There's gold in there. It's not Nate. Who is it? Not necessarily Nate. Who is it? There's a whole panel of... Well, there's only three of them.

Sounds like there's a death panel. They decide Andrew Tate is not a... Not a blog-worthy topic? Blog-worthy topic. So I'm just going to read you some stuff here. Andrew Tate said on his Hustlers University website, one of the packages I have is the PhD program, which stands for Pimping Ho's degree.

And he says, I've been running a webcam studio for nearly a decade. I've had over 75 girls work for me, and my business model is different than 99% of webcam studio owners. Over 50% of my employees were actually my girlfriend at the time, and of all my girlfriends, none were in the adult entertainment industry before they met me. Literally, that was my job. My job was to meet a girl, go on a few dates, sleep with her, test if she's quality, get her to fall in love with me to where she'd do anything I'd say, and then get her on webcam so we could become rich together. whether you agree or disagree with what I did with their loyalty, submission, and love for me

doesn't matter. You cannot reject the results and the results are simple. My girlfriends would do more for me than 99.9% of men's wives would do for them. So that's, it sounds like he was just like meeting women and turning him out, right? It's exactly what he's doing. He admitted it? Yeah, no, he wrote that on his own website.

I got my PhD. Oh my God. It just fucking dweeb. P-I-N-P. yeah no you're like literally literally pimp yeah he's just turning girls out but i don't think that's illegal in romania that's what he got arrested for it was human trafficking yeah so he were money laundering he would fly women over like there was one woman in specific one woman in specific who flew over from the u.s and then realized what she was getting into what he was trying to make her do and then she hit up like her old boyfriend back in the united states who then contacted the embassy because she didn't feel

safe like she was allowed to leave and then they discovered they kind of just use that as another piece of evidence that Andrew Tate was just like running who knows what what his webcam studio was really doing but um it's just don't write down your crimes before you do them that's kind of bad i think i think like he what they're going to get him on is that he uses cryptocurrency to uh with all those things and they probably have laundering problems okay so he's he's using crypto like the women are paid in crypto like not that i know but in these can things like when you pay like that's all in crypto okay and then they had to sell that crypto and probably not paying the romanian government any crypto fees because they probably have no laws about crypto okay

sounds like you're not a top g i'm not a fucking top g i hope none of you are top i'm a top g i'm a top G. Top J. I'm a top G. Well, now the world needs a top G now. We just lost the original. Are you the new top G? I think I might be.

You're giving out PhDs left and right? PhDs, yeah. I'm starting my own cam operation. What was your second choice if you didn't get into Hustlers? Hamburger. Hamburger University. Actually, Hamburg. Both prestigious institutions.

Extremely, yeah. You can make the argument that Hamburg University is more lucrative than hustlers. Yeah. That's why you can't wear just the shirt. shirt that says H.U. You have to distinguish which prestigious institution you went to. There might be some sort of like study abroad program there at Hamburger University. Send you over to Romania. Is this a world tour? Your girls.

Oh, no. Oh, that was such a surfer. I did not get the worst serial killer comparison today. Who? What? It's a podcast, Billy. It's, uh. Oh, Hank and Adam Lanzah.

Yeah. yeah that's tough shit KFC that's just out of line yeah it's pretty tough yeah that's pretty tough I will not be commenting on that that's tough I will not

I was way too far do we want to do voicemails I have some yes yeah let's do some voicemails let's do some listener voicemails I've missed you guys

let's just chat I miss hearing from the people hey hey what's up guys uh Taylor from Gallupon, Tennessee. I love the show.

They're doing beautiful and great, but I'm just wondering, have y'all ever been kicked out of anywhere or banned from a bar or a restaurant or some club or anything? If there's any funny stories, if you have any friends. We did this, didn't we?

I don't know. I don't know about that. Aaron, do you hear that? I can't hear when they do voicemail. You ever been kicked out of a bar, banned from a place? I've been kicked out, never been banned. Never banned. I've been kicked out before.

I'm currently banned from Madison Square Garden after being detained and arrested underneath the Westminster Kimmel Club Dog Show in 2017, I believe, on Valentine's Day. Pretty sick place to be banned from. Yeah, I'm banned from the dog show. We've been there since then. Yeah, but I'm not. I'm not supposed to be there. Is PFT banned or is your brother band?

We're all banned. Every personality. They told me in no uncertain terms, myself and Hank, and we got caught trying to pet the dogs there because we got restless after the Super Bowl. And so we were like, let's go cover the dog show. And so we had a friend send us credentials to the dog show, like a picture of them. And then we made our own and laminated them.

Did a really bad job laminating them. snuck into the dog show with the fake credentials. And then as we were walking around, somebody pointed us out to the security guards. They arrested us, put us in like this little cell or this little holding area and started questioning us like we were terrorists. I was like,

I honestly just wanted to see the dogs. I just wanted to like pet cool dogs. And they're like, tell us exactly what you're doing here. Where did you get this from? I was like, I'm not going to tell you who I got it from. And then they were like,

me shit because it was Valentine's Day. And they were just like, I don't you have anything better to do on Valentine's Day than this? I was like, nope, sure, sure don't. No, this is my problem. That was right when I said, what a, like a funny fucking story,

bro, like that's hilarious. That was right when I started listening to Parma take. Yeah, yeah. That was wild. Oh, my God. It was great. You got fake credentials. Yep.

To cover a dog show. Did you actually cover it? No, I didn't really. Like, I just went there. and took a couple pictures and posted those online and that's about it and then I think I snuck back

into the dog show a couple years ago I didn't learn my lesson at all but yeah currently not supposed to be there I don't think that they're actively enforcing I don't think that they've got me on like the facial recognition software systems so they're not really like doing a good job of preventing me

but I think I'm on a list of people that are not welcome there shout out to the security guard that knew that your credentials were forged. Yeah, well, it was also the element of like at a dog show everybody's wearing suits and tuxedos at the Westminster Kittle Club and I was wearing sweatpants. And I look like me and I definitely looked like somebody that's not supposed to be there.

Just Jack on the Titanic. He said, you don't belong here. Yeah, exactly. They said, get back down to stourge. I actually have a story I can tell. I just remembered. I am banned from a wildlife heart. park in a certain state.

That's probably for the best. For fucking the animals. No, for cliff jumping. I got caught cliff jumping. Why do you have to be so weird though and like just not say the state of the park that you're banned in? There's no reason to omit that.

They already banned you. Well, what are they going to do? Probably New York. I still go back there to cliff jump in New York. Yes. Okay. All right.

That's a good reason to not say it then. No, not New York. I cliff jump in New York. for a different place. This was Oceanside. So we were cliff jumping and got caught once. They wrote down our names, IDs and everything. I gave a fake name the first time, fake address.

I actually gave my buddy's address. And then the next time that buddy was actually with me because I never thought he'd come cliff jumping with me one day, but he basically I was at like a cousin's house basically and I said one of my home friends as a joke and then my home friend was with me that one time and I totally forgot I'd give him his name so then when he got pot like this is your second time we've caught you on these cliffs you're going to be banned from all Rhode Island state parks and I was like I said state whoops uh and then he was like what this is my first time being here I was like officer

this is a very stupid story but I once gave his name is my name uh that one time he caught us before he was like well now you're going to be banned from these parks and I was like well can you prove that in court he's like well you're banned from this park because I work here and yeah it was sick it was actually funny because he came up by boat

yeah and the boats passing the cliffs used to like wave us to be like jump and we just like jump it was like sick but then this one guy goes this one he pulled up and like it was an undercover boat but you couldn't tell from how far away that it was a some sort of

I think it was the harbor master who then called in the state park and he goes jump jumped he entrapped you yeah do you ever do you ever think that maybe

there's a rule against jumping there because there might be rocks underwater no because I dive it every year to make sure well yeah people have died but yeah people have died during stormy stormy times but every year because I do with my cousins we dive under to make sure that there's like a good amount do a little

do a little cliff recon yeah yeah um listen cliff jumping's awesome it's awesome i love it uh but you have to make sure that you're doing it in a place that is no quarries super safe quarries are the best because those those drops usually go straight down yeah cliff jumping is some of the best rushes ever yeah what about you guys are you banned from anywhere i don't know if we were kicked out and I feel like I've told this story before, which is why I asked, had we already done this, but it's Chef Mickey's one time, which for those who don't know is a character breakfast at Disney World. We did.

I've told this. Yeah, you have. Yeah, I think so. Fucking Chip or Dale, I don't remember which it was, alleged, I gave a high five. That story was somehow spun into I punched the Chipmunk. Just not what happened. And I think it's always girls that are in those costumes because you have to be short. to like see out of them.

Yeah. And so I guess she was, uh, she, she couldn't handle the heat and fucking went and got all pissy about it. I don't think we were like kicked out, but I think they were like, uh, don't come back here this trip. I was like, whatever, pal. I love it. Should we try to drink around the world?

Food there's mid anyway. Should we, should we do an Alex Morgan see if you can get around the world in Disney world without getting kicked out being too drunk? I don't ever been a Disney World. Oh, you're missing out. I'm terrified of people dressed up in coffee. Costumes. That's probably a good place to avoid.

Yeah. No, I can't do it. I don't like that either, though. I don't fuck with the costume people. Yeah, like even mascots to this day. Like, I can't go up to mascots at sports games. I think it would be hilarious to get into a furry costume and go to a furry convention and then just do the most heinous shit because nobody knows who you are.

What about? What about like going down to Times Square? Nope. Do you see the Mario's down there? Nope. Scares me. those those there's scary there's yeah they like if you take a like i've seen being there i've seen like tourists take pictures like of them and then they like get really pissed time square is a

fucking cesspool yeah no anyone anyone where i can't see their face because they're wearing something else count me out m-mm santa can't couldn't go see santa still can't still santa stresses me out Easter bunny all that Santa stresses you out like seeing like at the mall not my game just be yourself not my come down that chum come down that chimney it's Manker Blues buddy fuck happens I'm not my game anyways next voicemail yep hey what's up guys and Matt I love to show us will from Annandale Virginia three of driving from Virginia to Utah and on the road I'm thinking, how long do you think y'all could go if you were a pioneer on the trail, what state do you think you could get

to? Went to Kansas yesterday and took eight hours of ruling through the plane, and I think that if I was on a covered wagon, I'd have lost myself, Day 3. You guys are all beautiful, and Big Tee, I hope your Tennessee balls beat the shit out of Davo in the Beamer Bowl. Thanks, y'all. We did take care of that. You did. You guys got a – I love your quarterback. I did.

I did tell Ari, and I said to watch the game because I wanted to know what he's. thought of Joe Milton. He's got a fucking rocket, don't he? It's facts. I don't know what the question was, though. Tell me the question. I forget. The question was, if you were, like, on the Oregon Trail, how long would you last? Before dying. Not very long. I'd last one day longer than Billy, whatever he's about to say.

Billy, how long would you last? So, all my ancestors never really went west. They either arrived too late or they stayed. so I kind of don't have any of that pioneer type stuff in me I don't think in your DNA yeah you couldn't last in the wilderness that would be fun but I don't think like I don't know I mean obviously like I don't think I'd like to I mean I'd like to think that I could 100% makes the Pacific with you know with just imagine yourself in a covered wagon you've got you've got oxen yeah got two oxen that are yoked to

your wagon. You have a musket. A rifle. You have a rifle. I mean, I've driven from the East Coast to the West Coast by today's standards. So I mean, I guess knowing, you know, by like I was raised to the day's standards to be able to go from New York to L.A. I bet by if I was raised by those standards back then, I'd be able to do the whole way. I also bet that if you took somebody from like the early 1800s and you put them in a Chevy Sovarado and you say get to the West Coast, they'd probably kill themselves within the first like 30 seconds. Yeah. We would probably last longer on their wagon than they would in our car.

Yep. I agree. So we're more hardcore than they are. If they drank as much Red Bull, if they drank as much stimulants as we did going back, they'd be dead. Yeah. Plus, we're used to, you know what I'm saying? Our bodies have been immune to COVID via vaccine.

or via getting the disease itself, they get that shit right now, they're out of there. Smallpox? Immediately. We're all, are we? Oh, yeah, they're done. Well, no, it's just,

that's what I was going to say, though, if barring any kind of disease back then, I'm not ready for, like, if it was just element-wise, I think I can make the whole trip. Really? Yeah. What about, what about natives attacking your wagon?

I'm a little more, you know, dark-skinned to you. y'all you know we can negotiate what about uh what about killing and preparing food easy money what about what about driving cattle and having to interact with cattle dogs uh that's easy shit and dogs are don't fuck with horses uh the reason i know that because when i was when i was when i was 12 let me finish when i was 12 um my my grandfather owns the ranch And so when I was 12, my grandmother's boyfriend was a cattle herder. And so that's what we did for a living.

And so I spent two weeks with him in the wilderness. And it wasn't like in a camping ground. It was like we was out there in the elements. We set up a tent, all that shit. Got our own food, fished our own food. And I was 12. And every morning we get up, five, six in the morning, get up and herd cattle. Like, that's all I did for two weeks straight during the summer.

That's really awesome. Hell, yeah. And so I learned a lot about that shit, which is also why I don't fuck with the wild. I see too much wild. I don't fuck with that shit. But if it was a mission where it's like, yo, it's either do or die, I could do it. I just choose not to. I love these walls that I just felt.

They're amazing. Yeah, walls are sick. I agree. Walls are pretty dope. Yeah, walls, doors, you name it. But to Big T's point, I don't know if y'all remember this. But when we was after we left Tennessee, it's in one of those episodes, I was like, yo, like, handed nice. But the dude behind him has a way.

way better arm. I don't remember if y'all remember me saying that shit. He has a better arm. He just needs to curtail that shit. That's coaching. If he gets the right coach and he really takes to that shit, that is an NFL arm. That is absolutely an NFL starting arm. He threw, they did a video for the Orange Bowl where they saw how far he could throw in Orange. He started at the goal line, threw it through the back of the end zone and it hit the wall behind the practice field. It's like 120 yards. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. That's insane.

Go Google Joe Milton Orange and find the video. He throws an orange like 120 yards. Oh, an orange. It's possible because some people can hit, like, there are a few outfielders that can throw from the deep outfield. Further than that to home play. For a second, I thought you said a football. And I was like, no, I bet, what?

I bet he could throw, I've seen it throw him set, throw 170 yards without like really stepping into it that much. Yeah, I think, I think he might be able to do it 80, 90 yards. I've never seen him truly step in and just launch one. Yeah, like say he does like that, you remember the old quarterback challenges in Hawaii? I would love to see him do that. Like when you like,

you get to set up and you get to kind of like pounce to it, I would be surprised if he don't get at least 70, 75, 80. He has a rocket arm. I think he might have the best arm of anyone playing football right now and I'm including NFL quarterbacks. Like that's how it's- Strongest, strongest arm. Strongest arm.

Yes. This is, this is legitimate. ultimately a hundred fifteen hundred twenty yard throw of this orange yeah i love his arm i saw i haven't watched uh i've never seen him play before the orange bowl maybe like a couple plays here or there i watched that i was like i want that i want that arm he entered 2021 as the starter over hinden and didn't play that well um and then he got hurt and that's when hinded took over but he if will levis is a top 15 pick joe milton is a first round pick yeah Yeah. He has everything Will Levis has, but he's actually good.

Stop it. And he got the dog in him. He got that dog in him. He rocks. I fucking love Joe Milton. But he a dog. You saw how Kentucky played without him without Will Levis? Yeah, I did actually tweet.

Will Levis might have been pretty good to drag that heap and pile of trash to seven and six. That team sucks. I think he's good. I think he's good. I think he's bad at coming up with stuff on the spot. Just my opinion What do you mean Just like you know

Like a question on the spot I don't know Oh you weren't impressed with his interview You know just like coming up like low hanging fruit He could have gotten something better Whatever Big hands I won't impact his draft stock

But Joe Milton next year First round Yeah I think so I'm buying stock in Joe Milton I am If he was a stock area And if that athlete stock idea Took off

Did you ever see money out of that? uh it's a lot of you know there's a lot that went down in that whole thing it was kind of foggust so long ago but um you know it was a venture that didn't that didn't pan out but it was dope that you know the whole the whole brain behind it and what we were trying to do it was it was a good experience uh fiscally for me well they're now doing it again with chat ocho sinko i'm pretty sure where you can buy stock an athlete like put he didn't add recently where he was like put money like use your sports knowledge to make money

I'll find Are they are they actually giving them money Are the athletes giving their money From the contract that they sign? No no it's it's that's that's what that was Okay that's what that was Yeah that was

All right we have any more voicemails Yep we have one more Okay Hey guys This is Nate from New York just a question for you guys if there was an asteroid big enough to like do like a total extinction of the planet

do you think astronomers should tell us or keep it a secret let's show guys thanks Aryan the question was if there was like an asteroid big enough to basically extinct the whole earth do you think astronomers should let us know or let us kind of without telling anyone absolutely absolutely what let us know

you don't want to be like on the way to you know hustlers you and just thinking everything is peachy and bam dead I agree with that just for the point that like you don't want somebody to be like wasting the last week of their life you know like everybody like no one's going to do their

taxes. No one's going to care about that stuff. Just get that. Let everybody get the priorities. Yeah, nobody's going to do shit. So you have to make your own food. Like, all that shit is going to be done. Imagine, imagine you're waiting in line at the DMV and you look outside and asteroid is coming. It's like a minute away from hitting the earth. How mad are you going to be like, I wasted? I came down here for this.

That's a wild like purged kind of environment though. Like, you know the asteroid's going to hit in a week. Like, you know, it was wild shit's about to go down? Yeah. Holy shit, man. I would only want them to tell us when they've exhausted all their ways to get done because if they're like, we're working on a way to get the asteroid done, then everyone goes nuts and then they can't actually get the asteroid,

like prevent the whole thing from happening, then it'd be like, like once you're like, yeah, we're all shit out of luck. You got three days. You got a weekend, long weekend. I don't hate that, yeah, because panic would ruin everything. It would send everything in the shamans. yeah we write you big tea yeah tell people that's crazy i agree i'm kind of for the ignorance is bliss you'd rather just have the asteroid hit you i'd rather just and then everything's done if it was a

if it was a sure fire chance that i no one's surviving i don't i don't know if i want to no like i watch don't look up i didn't like the way that went down i don't think i i don't think i would like to know my demise is upon me. What about this? What if you're going to be like the only one at the barstall office, Maddie? Yeah, I'd keep going on. Why is everybody not here? God, I grind so hard.

What if, yeah, you like tweeted out. I know the asteroids come, but grind never stops. I'd be at the gym. Yeah, me too. I would get so, so swole. You guys wouldn't even believe it. Live shouldn't be so. There'll be millions of people live streaming.

it like yeah and put with their phones up at the sky no question oh shit oh shit what is this chat what's happening chat f's in the chat thanks for the 20 gifted yeah people yeah so many f's in the chat going on right now damn r-r-p that's sick though legend what a legend has it hasn't hit here yet see y'all soon I think the term legend gets thrown around too much these days specifically online

especially like Australian people oh Mike that's legendary oh my proper legend he's a legend like if you drink a beer if you drink a beer in under 10 seconds like oh my all time it's all time

you're a legend proper legend right yeah good on you all time legend did ever tell you about my beer chugging contest in Mexico no is that the one where people from Wisconsin aren't allowed to compete

you ever see that nah no it's my beer checking story I don't know what that is what is that in in Mexico people from Wisconsin aren't allowed to compete

in certain beer chugging competitions I agree with that that's fair well my dissimilar to this not from Wisconsin though so we all went down for the homies bachelor party

and I could I could drink right so like and the thing about my drinking is like I don't have hangovers and so I don't really feel the effects and that's like an issue right so I have to mitigate it

myself. So it's like, we went down there and everybody's having a good time. We go to the beach and one of the bars, pretty big bar, having like a beer checking contest. And it was like if anybody could beat my compadre, then like he came up to the crew. He's like, hey, if anybody wants to come and, you know, challenge my compadre, we'll give you and your friends free drinks for the rest of the day at the beach if you could beat him. I'm looking at buddy. I'm like, yeah, I'm going to tear this dude up. What are you talking about? So you had to do it three times And I think it was like three times something like that

Anyway went down there All my homies gathered around Whole bars watching I murdered this dude It wasn't even close dog I just I killed him downed it Way faster way more I just I just did it

And so everybody's celebrating We like free drinks for the rest of the day Everybody gigging dude The bar owner comes up He's like hey man He's like but there's no way I can afford All of that for you and your friends man So it's cool if I just like

give you all just like one free drink and we'll call it even i was like it's cool man that's that's that's what's up that's that's really nice of you to do that yeah there were a lot of hold him to it and ruin his bar like you put him out of business yeah this compadry is weak as fuck yeah he needs to get a better friend that he used to be fired i mean i mean i think it's a whole bunch of people that couldn't drink with him i just i'm just better at it he wasn't he wasn't thinking he was going to lose like that i understand that you know i get it but if you have a ringer where you're putting like your bar on the line you better it sounds like the real beer guy didn't make it in that day and so they're like hey and you guys able anyone want to be the

compadre today and like the line cook in the back was like yeah I drink a savas sara visa see see the but there's two types of beer shugging there's the people who are really good at which I almost consider cheating because it's a trick that only like certain people figure out is the ones who open up their throat yeah and then they just pour it down Tom Brady knows how to do it. Do you know how to do it? Yeah. Yeah.

And so you don't even, you really don't even taste the beer. It's like you just, you open your throat. I don't, I don't know how people don't do that. Like, I see people like that I go against for years I've seen this. And they just hold it in their mouth and like suck in. Yeah. Like, what the fuck is you doing? Just open your throat and pour this shit down.

Like, I don't know how. How do you open your throat? Man, a lot of jokes just ran through my mind. I know, but how do you know how to open your throat? I don't know. The crazy thing about it is I have a massive gag reflex. And all this is what I know is because, like, you know, you brush your teeth. Every morning, I can't even brush the middle of my tongue without me like almost throwing up every single time.

So it's like, but I guess liquid don't do it, I guess. But it's like you just, I don't like tuck your tongue and just, I don't know. Cut that shit out. How does it go through the wrong hole? There's one hole. I'm going to chug this water off like. Let's see. I'm going to try to open up my throat.

You ready? I've never done this part. Yeah, but that Yeah, it didn't work Yeah, it didn't work You can't just pour it down I mean, it's not a tube But like

I think you can just Pre-workout into my lungs You can always pre-workout Don't do that Don't do that Don't drink Get on my level My bag

Yeah, I don't I don't know man I've seen people that That do it also those people like take water bottles you know like have you ever seen that thing this was this went viral online there's his kid that just like this he just like

smashed it and all the water was gone that I know how to do that's what he that's what he does it's the same concept it's the same but how can you get the pressure because I know how to do well you can only you can only guzzle as much as the you know gravity allows right and so with the water bottle

it allows you to increase the pressure that's what the maker makes the liquid go down fast but like if it's a bottle there's nothing you can do you just hold it open don't put your lips and suck that that that slows it down just open your mouth and let it pour out all the way i do like how billy's mentality in this is like there's two kinds it's like the kind that i do and then anyone that's better is cheating actually well that was i didn't catch the yeah yeah well it's like when you struggle it down i think it's more impressive the people who can like because that's just pouring it down the other people's like the like they're putting in some

work it's a true yeah i know i i i kind of agree with it but it's it is you saying that like if you're better than me that that means you that you cheated no i'm trying to figure out how to do it there was a time i was i think it was like it when did i try to figure out in trick in louisiana you have to show uh proof of age if you want to be able to learn how to open up your throat right can you sing at all can you like do you know yeah do you know how to like control octaves i guess. Yeah, Bill, you sang Born to Run. Yeah, you did.

I know. So like when you're controlling octaves. All right. So think of it like this. When you're controlling octaves, right? You know, you go hi. You go low. It's going low, opens it up more.

Like, so just put your throat in the position to where you're saying in the lowest octave and that opens it up. That's the best way I can describe it. I think I got it. Yeah. You know what? Why are we? Why are we? Throw goat

Yo, live show We're gonna all learn How to chug beer like that Yeah Throat goats The clients will be entertained Yes, it will Yeah

Eddie said throw goats Just do an impression Nancy Reagan You're good at that Okay All right That was macrodosing Thank you guys

For For hopping back on the macrodosing Train in 2023 It's gonna be a good year Hell yeah solid year. Any of the year's resolutions we got to hear about? I will be breaking.

I'll be touching par by the end of the year. Hell yeah. That's good. You can do it. Absolutely. Bro, I totally was going to hit 90 the other day. I'm talking about I had three or four pars in a row. I'm gigging.

Just playing bogey golf. You know what I'm saying? To where I'm like, you know, I'm like six over through nine, right? Just playing really good golf, right? and then all of a sudden on the last like three or four holes I get a nine I get an eight I get a seven just fell just fell apart and ended up like a 91 it was just dog shit

but that's part of the grind though you know what I embrace the process it is you'll hit it you'll touch bar anybody else resolutions I'm gonna start journaling okay I realized Owen router said something about working here that he was like I forget all the crazy shit that happens

because you just have to, you've said it before, like, I'm part of my take, like, you just have to move on so quickly. I'm going to start journaling, so I remember what happens when I work here. And then some future civilization will find Mad Dog's Journal and be like, this is what life was like back in the early 2000. Yeah, by that record, the 2020s. Oh, we should do a macrodosing time capsule that would be fun. Oh, that'd be cool.

We did. We have said this before. Yeah. That and I want to, I want to drink more water, which is working so far. I've been peeing. I've peed twice during this episode. Drinking more water is the best new. resolution it's so easy just be like i'm going to drink more water yeah i'm growing the fuck up

all right billy yeah that's your resolution this year yeah i'm growing the fuck up can i what does that mean a lot of things okay a lot of things a lot of stuff don't worry about it it's secret it's a secret mission that i'm on i'll tell you when i'm growing yeah i'm metamorphicizing i like it Billy, you've just been in your cocoon before. Yeah. Can't wait to see what you become as a butterfly. All right. We'll see you guys next week.

Love you guys.