Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - The Life Of Alex Jones

Episode Date: February 23, 2021

Welcome to the first episode of Macrodosing. Today we talk about Alex Jones, a man of mystery, confusion, and conspiracy. Turn on. Tune in. Drop out! 0:00 What is Macrodosing 5:30 Texas snow 7:00 Addressing Billy vs Arian Beef 9:30 Blimps are scarce 11:30 Alex Jones Personal life 15:30 Alex Jones Vs D.A.R.E 20:00 Alex Jones Many Fights 27:00 What we know about Alex Jones 29:50 Origin of Alex Jone's fame 37:00 Alex Jones represents the internet 40:30 Alex Jones Steroids 42:30 9/11 44:00 Arian Foster's upbringing 47:24 Big T reads Alex Jones Quotes 50:10 Alex Jones vs space hitler 53:00 PI Coin 55:00 Why Alex Jones hated George Bush 57:30 Bohemian Grove 1:00:00 Obama Deception 1:04:00 Sandy Hook 1:14:00 Alex Jones loves taking his shirt off 1:20:00 Chemtrails 1:24:00 Turning the frogs gay 1:26:00 Big T reads quotes from Alex Jones 1:30:00 Weed is too strong 1:32:00 Alex Jones CIA Operative 1:37:00 Alex Jones as a football coach 1:42:00 Big T boxers 1:47:00 AlgorithmsYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macro dosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Welcome to the very first episode of macro-dosing. I got the name right this time. When I first said it on part of my take last night, I said micro-dosing. No, this is macro-dosing, so it's one better. It's me, PFT Comter. I've got Arian Foster here.

We're going to be getting weird with it. We're going to be doing some deep dives into some weird stuff. This is episode one. and we're planning on doing a walk through the life of Alex Jones. One of the craziest people that has ever existed in American media, endlessly entertaining. I mean, I used to listen to him on the radio when I first moved to Austin. I've heard a lot of his takes and kind of watched him over the years.

He's always just been like a fascinating, weird guy to me. So I did a lot of research into him, came up with some weird stuff. It'll shock you to know he did not necessarily have a normal childhood or a normal life. that led him to this place. But I think we got some fun stuff. This is going to be a fun podcast. I'm very excited. We also have Big Tea in the studio with us.

We've got Avery producing. We've got Billy Football who added himself to this podcast. Last night, when he found out what the nature of the show was going to be, Billy says, yo, can I be like the Jamie for your podcast? That's Billy's goal in life is to be a Jamie for a podcast. And so we hired Billy last night at about 10. p.m. And Billy already missed his first day work. He's at home instead of coming into the studio

and helping us on here. So good job, Billy. You lasted half a day. Thanks so much for having me. Yeah. All right. But, Aaron, it's good to see you. Good to have you. I'm very excited to do the show. I've gotten a lot of really positive feedback. You're one of the most interesting people on the internet. So I'm very happy to be doing a show with you. My guy, glad to be here. Tommy put it together the the entertainment John Stockton just plays the background and just dishes out all these assists man so I'm excited to hell about it man it's gonna be fun I don't know where we're gonna take it

and I'm excited because you're one of my favorite people on the internet as well I don't know if you call me your favorite but we'll just pretend you did one of my favorite it's like you and August Ames RIP I don't know who's August yeah you can Google her yeah well I tell you what Billy you're the Jamie Jamie me pull up August Ames. This is going to be fun. It's going to be a fun show. And if you heard the theme music for the show, that's Aaron.

So Aaron wrote the theme music. He's multi-talented. One of the questions that Big T had going into this show, the name Bobby Fino. I don't think we ever asked you about Bobby Fino. Who is Bobby Fino? I am. It's not some like, all to ego.

It's just I actually hate my name. I tell my mom that and I tell my dad that my name is trash. So when I was coming out with music, because I wanted to put out some music, I didn't like my name. So a lot of musicians or artists or actors or whatever use your stage names. And it's just that. something a little more sonically pleasing than Aryan Foster.

I just, I don't even like it. I don't like anything about it. Arian's a tough name in this day and age. Yeah, it was funny. I was on, there was a thread going around on Twitter. Like, it was like, probably like last year. And it was name or mentioned something that, something in pop culture that ruined your first name. And so, like, you know, people were doing like, I don't know, like if somebody's name was Ryan.

whatever the case may be right. And mine was a white supremacy. Yeah. Because it's like literally like I've had everybody all the time when the first time, you were like, bro, did your mom name, Aryan? Why did they do that? And it's just, I don't know, dog, but you got asked them. Yeah, they, they, yeah, white supremacy ruined your day.

White supremacy is canceled for ruining Aryan Foster's name. That's, I'm cool to, I'm cool to canceling that. I'm okay with canceling that. There you go. So, so yeah, we're going to get started here in a second. Before we do, uh, feel like we can, we can, we can talk a little bit about what's going on in in the world right now because we do have some like macro dosing type shit that is taking over the internet right now and that is the

snow down in Texas so have you seen any of that like obviously you are in Texas have you gone outside and tried to investigate whether or not the snow is real I actually have and with my experiments it it panned out it was it was it was snow okay confirmed confirmed but confirmed snow confirmed but it was it was wild for no serious note it was wild because like a lot of everybody it was the weird i think uh god is taking care of atheists because everybody around me had like power outages or water shortages or whatever like my house was just unaffected i didn't even know it was a real thing because i i kind of disconnected the last like week until i went to the store and everything was shut down i was like why is everything shut down and there's ice old roads and people are freezing i was like oh shit shit. So then I got on the internet and realized what was happening. It was wild. Yeah. Yeah, people are going outside trying to melt their snow with a lighter. And I guess because the snow is not turning into water first, it's just going straight into gas. People think that the snow is not real. And it's interesting because you just said God is

taking care of atheists, which I know that might, does that rub you the wrong way, Big T? No, that doesn't rub me the wrong way at all. I don't know why that would. Does God take care of atheists? I think God takes care of everybody. All right. What a guy. You know what? Maybe he takes care of atheists more because all like people who are like hardcore Christians, they're simping for God. And okay, atheists. God's playing hard to get. No, no, Aryan's playing hard to get. Atheists are playing hard to get. And it's like I don't need you. And now that makes God want Aaron even more. Hmm. It's an interesting theory. I like it. I like that theory too. We should also clear up, um, a little bit of beef that I don't even know if you're aware of the beef that this podcast already has amongst it. but about four years ago when you went on the the diatribe about whether or not you could kill a wolf with your bare hands that stirred up a lot of people for a lot of reasons and one

of those people that stirred up was billy football and billy do you want to tell him why you hate him no no i don't hate you i don't hate you i just like to click back don't back out of no i just what i was trolling you four years ago i was 18 i was stupid and uh we had nice back and fourth but I'm glad to what does that mean when you say a nice back and forth when I was trolling you when I was 18 what exactly are we get out would he consider a nice back and forth yeah it was it was comical you know talking about you know dietary uh differences and uh you know having a good time what you want to unpack that I'm I made fun of you for being a vegan I said that wasn't a very vegan move to try to fight a wolf and then you called me corny and I

said no i'm meaty uh because i eat meat and that's a anyway it was a great back oh i got it this show this show's going on we're putting this on youtube right yeah because i saw the moment on arian's face where he realized who billy was and like remembered what that was and it was very funny to say i do i do remember that so are you are you still a vegan erin no not in the least um well i i i think it's the most healthy lifestyle to live there's nutritionists to argue about that. I'm not trying to argue it. I just think for me, it's for my body.

I love what it does. But there's just like, I'm just culturally indoctrinated with meat and dairy. And I have a lot of, like a week or two, I do like plant-based shit. But for the most part, I just have a regular American diet. And I'll probably die earlier because of it.

Okay. Can we get some handshakes in the chat going for that, Billy? It sounds like we're building bridges here. okay love yeah that's much love much love all right so you guys want to you guys want to get into this absolutely are you all ready i'm excited okay so uh typically i think the way this show is going to work and we can like adapt things on the fly because if you know we kept part of my take the exact same from the moment that it started that probably wouldn't work out either so like we're we're gonna

adapt on the fly here but i think what we're going to try to aim for is maybe every show um somebody brings uh the topic to the tape and Alex Jones has been an interest of mine for a long time, and so I wanted to get deep into the background there. And next week, I think Aryan's going to look into something. He'll kind of walk us through his interest, and we'll react to it, that sort of way. And we'll also get Coley involved.

I know that Coley was really thinking that he could, well, I was thinking he could be an asset to this show because he writes so much about conspiracies. And if you really want to get into some heavy shitter, and you've got to hear him talk about blimps, because he's got, how many blimps? do you think there are in the world? Like my Goodyear blimps?

Yeah, how many how many blimps if you had to guess? If I had to guess, there's probably, there can't be too many blimps. I, there's, there's nine blimps. Oh, okay, well, that's actually, it's, it's a good guess because there are 15 blimps, which seems close. That was, that was very close, because most people guessed like 200, 300, 300, you know. No, no way. No, there are nine blimps in the world. There are nine blimps, and I know Coley's got some takes about that that he'll want to discuss.

But, yeah, we're going to get him involved as well. But it makes sense, though. It makes sense why there's not a lot of blimps. Well, they only go to, like, you only see them at sporting events. Well, that's what I'm saying. It's like, they really don't serve any purpose, so there's no need to make them in our economy. It's a profit drift in a car. It just doesn't make a lot of sense to make a lot of blips.

Yeah, drones really put blimps out a bit. That was like the final nail on the coffin. It's like there's a blimp sale. out there that is currently on unemployment because he's like, these fucking drones came and they took my job. But blimps are air taxis? I don't even know if they're considered taxi. I think they just go up in the air and then eventually.

No, they're just there. They're the taxis of the air because Uber is putting taxis out of business. Right. Exactly. Yes, that's a great point. So innovation has ruined the derigible industry, I guess. But yeah, we're going to come at it with different topics depending on, on who. whose week it is to bring those things up.

So this week, we're going to get into Alex Jones. And I guess let's start from the beginning with him, because I learned a lot about his life and his childhood. I got all the documents right here. That's what Alex Jones would say. I've reviewed the documents of poured over him. They've admitted this. And it's fascinating stuff.

So he was born in 1974. Right off the bat, that's crazy to me, because he's looked like he's been 55 years old for the last 20 years. It's crazy. Like you go and you look at some images of him when he's doing like the loose change stuff back in 2006, 2007. And he actually looks older back then than he does now, but he still looks old for the age. Does that make sense? Here's a mind fuck that just, that just, it messed me up when I heard it.

Tupac was born in 1971. Alex Jones is three years younger than Tupac. That's crazy. That is wild. that's probably also the first time they've ever been compared I don't think anyone said that's going to be my goal on the podcast

is to like see how many new sentences and new comparisons that we can make that have never been uttered by a human being before but yeah I like shit so he's younger than Tupac he's younger than Tupac is Tupac still alive we might need to tap that one

on another episode I'm not going to spill those beans right now yeah yeah for sure so he's he was born in a town called Rock Wall Texas, which is a suburb of Dallas. His dad was a dentist, a pretty successful dentist, and his mom was a homemaker. So that sounds like a relatively normal childhood, except I have to imagine if you're Alex Jones, you probably carry around a great deal of shame, knowing that your dad did fluoride treatment on everybody. And meanwhile, you spend like the last 20 years trying to get that shit out of the water. But his dad, I guess his dad had a book called None Dare Call it a

conspiracy, which essentially argues like taxation is theft and that bankers are conspiring a way to take away your freedom. And it's kind of like Fisher Price, my first conspiracy would be this book. And it got him into it. And then he kind of never looked back from there. But when he was in high school, this actually gets really interesting because people want to know, like, how did Alex Jones become Alex Jones? And if you ask him that question, he would tell you that in high school, He said all this. He had sex. By the time he was 15 years old, he had sex with 150 different women.

I remember hearing him on the radio one time. By the way, yeah? Time out. Yeah? Time out. Say that sentence to me one more time. Alex Jones, by the time he was 15 years old, had sex with 150 different women. Cap.

You think that's cap? That's all cap. Bro. 150 Alex Jones, first of all. but second of all 150 women listen i am not proud of this now as a mature man but as an ex-niffel athlete i've had my fair share of dealings with the opposite sex 150 is soul-taking that's a lot dog but by 15 no by 15 and i bet he sucked at fucking like maybe i don't i don't know like from a physical standpoint if that would be possible but if anybody could do it in

might be him just because like he's he's kind of built like an efficient fucker he's like just a little rock short stroke there's no doubt he's short strokes short strokes for sure and so he claimed that he had 185 IQ and slept with 150 different women I remember him one time on the radio talking about how all his guidance counselors tried to sleep with him in high school and how he was like disgusted by them but the way the way that he tells this he found out that his local cops in high school were selling ecstasy and cocaine at parties and they came to a school to do a dare assembly you guys remember dare oh yeah definitely i had the shirt yeah the shirt's fire it was a complete backfire on their end to make like this fire merchandise and then now all of a

sudden people have like co-op they took back uh drug education and so now it actually probably encouraged more kids to do drugs just for the shirt i just realized that was my first first experience with merch yeah that was my first merch that wow dare are they still doing dare bill they are not at least in new york state when i was growing up okay so i guess there was a dare assembly at his high school and according to alex jones he stood up and accused the police officers of selling cocaine and ecstasy in the middle of this assembly and the way he tells it he was was pulled out of the assembly by the cops, that was his first conspiracy. He was like, there is a conspiracy in my town. Everybody's, all the cops are selling drugs. They took

him into the principal's office and he says that they beat the shit out of him into an inch of his life. So I don't, to me, I'm not necessarily buying that, but he had this in mind when he was like, this is my, every superhero has to have an origin story. And mine is I got too close to the truth when I was in high school and got beat up by the cops. So I'm not necessarily buying that, though. As unrealistic as that sounds, does that not seem like a plausible place for him to have started this, though? Like that happens to you, you're like, okay, now I'm going all in because there's more.

I think that Alex Jones thinks of himself as being inside of a comic book. I think he believes that he is truly a comic book hero and that the entire world, is out to get him and he's going to defeat them and it would make sense in his brain to come up with a story like this and you would think that maybe like one person that went to his high school would corroborate it nobody everybody says like it's bullshit the teachers say it's bullshit his classmates say it's bullshit and uh the police officer that was there at the time says yeah we weren't even allowed to question a student without like an administrator in the same room as us so um i'm i'm throwing a small flag on this one i like i would like to believe that it's

because it's a great story, but I'm not necessarily buying the fact that Alex Jones tried to bring down a mafia empire of police officers in his suburban Dallas high school. Maybe this was a bit of foreshadowing, if you will, because what I think Alex Jones does a lot of the time is he just takes a handful of darts and he throws them at the wall and every now and one sticks. And the ones that stick, that is the glue that keeps. his fan-based coming back. So when he says cops are selling drugs, that's not far-fetched, right?

It's not a far-fetched thing. Cops beat him up. Also not a far-fetched thing. So it's an interesting, like you said, origin story. I'm excited. Yeah. So, I mean, you bring up a good point.

Maybe that's another episode down the line. It's just the crack episode. Oh, the crack epidemic? Yeah, just like we'll do an episode on crack and crack how it became. I'm always fascinated to learn about like, okay, here's a new drug. Here's how it got introduced. Here's how it started. And we could probably go down a few rabbit holes on that one.

Yeah, that one's an interesting one for sure. Billy, what were you going to say? You put your hand up. Just, you know. If you were in the room, it would be easier for you to do this. But that's fine. You need to draw a sign and just hold it up in front of the camera so we know you want to speak. No, you could definitely see patterns of delusion.

from Alex Jones from a young age. I mean, 150 women making up this story. You could definitely see that this could get bigger and bigger down the line. I would say that him getting beaten up by his cops after exposing their drug ring in front of his old class, I'd say that's more likely than the 150 women. 100%. Yeah. No question.

So that's what he claims happened. Now, the other story that has actually been corroborated by a great many people, is that he got in some trouble. So the story is that he kicked one of his classmates' asses in geography class. It was in geography class, like second period. And he beat a kid so badly that the kid almost went to a coma, had some, like, serious neurological issues. They got into a fight.

He had rage issues. Apparently Alex Jones back in high school, according to his football coach, would turn his head back in the air and then just speak in tongues. say that he was the devil and that he was going to kill everybody he would say this not just like to his football team but he would say this like in the halls of his high school he would put put like his hands above his head like he was the devil and then sprint through the halls charging into people and headbutting people which i i like to believe that that one's true

i i could see him doing that because i've seen his first step in some of these videos where he's chasing people across the street like he's pretty quick and he actually he's built like a bowl a little bit. So, um... Hold on, you said this has been corroborated by people? He was doing this shit in high school? Multiple. So there are like eight or nine people that have corroborated and said, yeah, the, the

craziest part was like when he would put his head back and speak in tongues. And, uh, one time he put it like a pin in his mouth and died his tongue black and started screaming at everybody and freaked everybody out. So, uh, it seems like this is going to shock you guys. Alex Jones might have had mental issues from as early as his high school years. But apparently what he did

was he kicked this kid's ass. Geography class would be tough for Alex Jones. Because he sees a globe and he's like, fuck that. He was probably a flat earth kid at the time. Hates science. Anthropology class would be difficult for him. Physics, those sorts of ones.

But he was angry for whatever reason and he kicked the kid's ass. Just so happened. that this kid had friends, and a couple months later, they invited Alex to come to this party at their house. Alex shows up and just gets jumped. He gets the shit kicked out of him by like three of this dude's friends. And his parents pulled him out of school and said, we're moving down to Austin. We can't stay up in Dallas anymore. Like, you're going to die because everybody in town hates you. So it was like the fresh prince of Bel Air, except Alex Jones, his dad got

scared and said we're moving down to Round Rock or whatever. Bet you that theme music would have been trashed. It would have been great. Yeah, so his dad also showed up with checks for the kids that he beat up, like the kid in geography class. He would show up and he paid for the kids.

Hospital bills paid for some of their troubles, essentially tried to make it go away so they wouldn't press charges against his son and gave the other allegedly. This is all alleged. is based on, like, reporting that I got from, I think it was intelligence or observer behind the bastards in this American life. Those are the things I listened to all episodes about Alex Jones. And so this has been, this has been confirmed by a bunch of the classmates,

even the kid that got beat, has been like, yeah, Alex beat me up, and then we beat the shit out of him, and then he moved out of town. So to me, that sounds like it's probably the real story behind Alex Jones's high school career. Fascinating. Yeah. His dad would also, this would go on to be like a theme in Alex's life, his dad would keep just getting him out of trouble and show up and like, he'd be like my son's too powerful, he's going to injure people. Basically like Sean Merriman's parents, not letting him play high school football.

It's like, yeah, Alex Jones can't be in crowds because he's going to injure somebody. We need to limit his interactions. So they moved away from town into a place where they didn't know anybody. And that- I just kind of conceptualized. that they moved out of the home or the town that they were in because Alex Jones was that much trouble because he kept getting his ass kicked he was like that much trouble for himself like I think he got this one lucky shot in in the geography

class and took the kid out like he was the holder at Oklahoma but then that dude got his friends and beat the shit out of Alex so Alex was like I'm I'm not going to be able to exist in this town anymore we got to get out or his parents were his parents we're afraid for his life I'm just trying to picture because like I have kids like and I can't imagine moving my whole house just because my kid keeps getting whooped that's crazy yeah what type of parenting would you do if your kid came home and was like hey uh you remember that kid I put in the hospital his friends beat me up I don't I grew up a little different so uh that's just like kind of like street justice like you can't that's just part of it you if you want to

If you want to play tough guy, you want to try to beat people up. There's always, I was always taught there's always somebody bigger. There's always somebody battered. So you've got to pick your battles. And getting beat up is kind of just part of the flow, man. That's why you don't, I just don't walk around picking fights because I knew a lot of people were in hand. So some people get beat up and they end up learning a lesson from it.

I think that Alex Jones's lesson from getting beat up was like, yes, there is a conspiracy and everybody is out to get me all the time, and they all want to kill me. And that, I think, makes more sense to be the way that he was, like, set into motion as this conspiracy theory guy. Like, knowing that everybody in his hometown was actually trying to kill him,

probably because he was an asshole, but people actually really did hate him at the time. Confirmation bias with ass-wopens. That's a new one. Yeah. Yeah, so... Go ahead. I could imagine he was extremely isolated

at the time, sort of why he didn't number one learn from his ass whooping and number two this sort of me versus the world developed do people actually learn from ass whoopings though now that I said it out loud like we always say like that kid needs to get punched in the face you know but do you actually learn if you do get punched in the face some some do like and it also depends on the demographic right I know a lot of people who had got beat up and they come back with guns shit like that so not not cool but some people get whooped and it and it changes him maybe he just didn't get beat badly enough maybe they didn't they didn't finish the job to like beat the

shit out of him they just beat like half of the shit out of him and then a little shit out of him yeah then he like yeah so we should probably actually back up a little bit here when we're talking about Alex Jones what do you guys what do you guys know about Alex Jones because we just jumped into his life but maybe there's somebody out there that is not for familiar with this guy. So, Aaron, when I say Alex Jones, what do you think of? Yeah, immediately when we were talking about doing this episode, all I know about him is info wars, right? And the crazy sound bites that went viral, things like that. I'm a fan of Joe Rogan, and so I know he's been on his podcast. And Joe Rogan is like a big fan

of Alex Jones. And Joe Rogan is adamant that he's just like, ADD and just needs to tone it down, but he's actually rational. And so when I listened to him talk, I listened to one of his podcasts where he was on with Joe Rogan. And when I listen to him talk, it's like, that's where I got the dart analogy from because it's like he says enough to make it, make you to make the average, I want to say average person, no disrespect to people. But he says enough correct things to make a not very well read person to be like, that makes sense. Hold on he's right about that. But when you go a little deeper below the surface of what he's actually talking about, it's nonsense. But they always say that.

They say that the best lies are hidden behind truth. And I think that's what, when I think of Alex Jones, that's what I think. He's like a snake oil salesman. Yeah. Is there one theory in particular that you associate with him more than anybody else? Not more than anybody else, just his outlandish antics. But he's definitely made his rounds for the frogs being gay. Yeah, that's the one that sticks out to me.

I mean, say what you want about the guy, but he is entertaining, right? Like, he's, he is a huge personality that you want to listen to, if for nothing else, but just like the holy shit, I can't believe this is a real person type aspect of it. And that's when I first started listening to him on the radio, I just couldn't believe that he was real. I was like, this guy is just, like, created in a lab somewhere. but he's got all these weird theories you might know him from 9-11 was an inside job that's his big one and then there was the sandy hook stuff he was a sandy hook truth he has talked about yeah frogs being gay and i know that billy's got some very strong feelings about the sexuality of amphibian so we can we can touch on that but he's uh he's dabbled

and everything so um one of my personal favorite things about the guy is like he treats his conspiracy theories almost like he's a blogger and he has to write like a new headline every day and always ties it in with whatever it's going on in the world at that moment. So like he's got all these crazy takes but it doesn't matter if the if like right after the power plant blew up in Japan he was you know right on top of that trying to sell his silver being like yeah this is going to protect you against nuclear fallout. You know like whatever big

news is happening at the time Alex Jones is going to have a theory about it and it's probably going to be extremely wrong but he's going to be the loudest person online about it and I guess not anymore because he got deep platform but um he's just he's kind of been bubbling up in america for the last 17 or so years yeah billy i would say that when he really hit mainstream was his exposure of the bohemian grove which occurred even before 9-11 i love serious billy he sounded like a like a doctor there no but the bohemian grove he snuck into a secret society and came out with footage and broadcasted it. And then he also, you know, was saying that Bin Laden was a CIA operative before 9-11 even happened.

And look, I'm not vouching for the guy by any means, but as Aryan said, he throws a ton of darts and he hit, you know, a couple bullseyes. And that's why people give him any sort of merit. and who knows if he knows he's doing that or he's just seen so much that he bites on everything because he's been you know if you look at why you know with sandy hook why he says that he believed that it was fake was because he was in a state of psychosis because he felt like the government corporations and everyone was lying to him so much he couldn't believe anything so i my question is is alex jones knows what he's doing and just trying to sell media and, you know, make headlines?

Or is he actually so tortured mentally by these facts that he doesn't know what's real or fake anymore? And he can't even tell. I think it's probably that one. Yeah. Probably like I've got some theories on that, by the way. The whole, like Alex Jones is, because it boils down to me, is he a fraud or is he, for lack of bad words, he's a pussy? Is he a big pussy or is he a fraud? Because if he actually believes this stuff, then he should not be doing what he's doing.

If he does believe it, and he's like spending all this time selling supplements and all that shit, then he's a big P word. Like, that's what it comes down to. So I don't think that he necessarily believes everything that he's saying. But Big T, when I said Alex Jones, what did you think? I definitely thought of the frog gate clip. When Billy said the 9-11 thing, this is one of the interesting things I found out. So did y'all know he was on a show,

I think it was July 25th of 2001 and he said something to the effect of like the government is going to do a mass terror attack and they're going to pin it on somebody like Osama bin Laden and then two months later he was right.

So like that goes back to what Arian said about like, you know, you say enough crazy shit like you're going to hit some. Yeah. The CIA also said that though. Like maybe Alex Jones he was just reading the daily briefings. the security briefings because that wasn't like so i actually have the clip and you know

everyone talks about biggie smalls predicting 9-11 right where they say like oh blow up like the world trade oh my guy recorded that before 9-11 but also people forget about the 1991 huge bill yeah great job yes so this you know even though it happened in july the world trade center was already a target before this happened so i think that caused some of the you know you a lot of people take credit but a lot of people forget that the world trade center that was the second time it had been targeted i have the clip if you want me to share the screen of that july um uh radio broadcast tell you what jamie let's let's get to that in a second um i'm just going to back up a little bit because i wanted to like reestablish who

alex jones was in case there's somebody out there that that i did have no i did have one question for you though and something that you said you said something about him being a fraud or a pussy and that if he does believe the things he's saying, then he's a fraud because he shouldn't be doing what he's doing. Sorry, um, if he does believe the things that he's saying, he's a pussy. If he doesn't believe him. Why? Why? Like what should he be doing if he does believe the things he's saying? So that this is where Alex Jones gets like out of the realm of entertainment and into the realm of actually being a little bit dangerous because I don't, I don't think he believes everything that he's saying deep down inside. If he thought that George W. Bush put

like thermite explosives inside the World Trade Center and blew them up and killed 2,000 people. And what you're doing about it is like, you're like, we better sell supplements that have higher testosterone to the public to make us all wake up at once and not take this. Like, that's a cop out. And when he tells people that sort of thing with that much certainty, then you have people who absolutely do believe what he says, and they're the ones that get violent, right? okay i just i just wanted to to clear up what you i make so either he's a fraud or a pussy or there's actually a third option because after going through his background i actually came

up with a third theory that i think this would actually be a theory that alex jones would be proud of saying but we can get to that in a little bit um so he moves down to austin gets down there he gets on local access television and he uh he becomes like a celebrity in austin like a local Keep Austin weird. He was one of the Keep Austin weird guys where it's like, yeah, we got, our city's so quirky, we've got this one person

who wears a speedo and rides his bike around town all the time. And then we have Alex Jones that's saying Bill Clinton is trying to nuke the entire eastern seaboard. Like he became like a little mini, like star in Austin, Texas. And like Mike Judge from King of the Hill,

he became a fan of Alex Jones as he went on his show and Richard Linklider, some other filmmakers, down there became like close with Alex Jones and you can see if you watch King of the Hill if you watch that show Dale from King of the Hill is a hundred percent based on Alex Jones that that is his personality like Alex was just this like paranoid weird guy in Austin that that ended up being the model there is that a fact or you just is that an analogous

I'm I'm saying it's like it's too much of a coincidence to just be a guess because they're the same dude like super paranoid um and so Alex gets on the the Austin local network and he uh he just yells a lot he cries on the air he developed a rivalry with a guy named space Hitler um which by the way your first mistake is if you get into an argument with a guy named space Hitler you've already lost you can't be like oh that guy won the argument against space Hitler good job I'm just saying I don't necessarily agree with the fact that that's not a cool name. I know the connotations, but it's really, it's odd enough to keep me intrigued. Don't say that.

Yeah, I guess it's creative. It's also two things that Alex Jones probably doesn't believe in. So you can see why that would set him off. That would really piss off Alex Jones. Yeah. So he becomes like a local celebrity. Oklahoma City, the bombing actually, like, helped Alex Jones a lot because whenever there's a big event like that, he's always like the first on the scene. He's a first responder in a way where he shows he's the first and loudest person that shows up claiming the wildest shit.

And so people after, I'm kind of joking, but like people after an event like that, they're looking for an answer. And if he gives them somebody to be pissed at, that sometimes is a lot easier for somebody to be like, it's the fucking government, man, than it is. to you know wait for all the facts to come out and I love that saying because like you can you can just say we're waiting for the facts to come out as long as you want and it's just completely you don't ever have to accomplish everything life is just waiting for the facts to come out but this is why I think like this is why I think uh Alex Jones is more in uh he's a caricature of like the zeitgeist of America right or just or just those the internet in general right if it wasn't him it was going to be somebody else because what

what you said is true he's a first responder right to any tragedy he's a first responder and and i mean think about there are people who spent their entire academic career studying the holocaust or studying an historical event or whatever occasion to be but here's a guy who has his hands and knowledge about everything and nobody stops to think like how deep does he really know this shit but why i say he's a character a caricature is like america or just the internet in general is kind of bred on information and misinformation and any and anybody who who knows anything about internet culture it's just the more the better that's one of the thing that bothers me about the internet and people just eat that shit up and so he is just like

symptomatic of of what the internet culture in our in our world is today And it's just, shit is just fascinating shit to me. Yeah. And we were talking about this before we start taping. But if you deal with people that are like very good at making these entertaining outlandish takes, the only problem with it is you can be the king of conspiracies and you can be well known as being, you know,

the guy that we go to about flat earth or the guy that we go to about, you know, false flag attacks. But the second that there's somebody that's better at making those analogies than you are, that's like taking it. a step further, then all of a sudden you're a beta, right? You're not even like the king. People forget about you so easily. Like if Alex Jones doesn't keep ratcheting it up, there's going to be somebody out there that's going to take it one step further the next time. There's going to be a firster responder that's going to beat him and undercut him to the scene of the crime. And then

all of a sudden people are listening to him. So yeah, he became, he had like a very good sense of knowing when to, when to like take advantage of a big situation like that. It's also, also this time where he physically transforms. He, like, enters the pupa stage of Alex Jones. And Billy, this is really why I wanted to have you on because you're an expert in body development and nutrition. And from the time, like 1997, if you look at video of him when he was on Austin Public Access to the next, like, seven or eight years,

his body changed. He just got swollen. His face got wider. somehow as like features grew closer together in the middle of his wide face so he looked like Stingray Steve and the conspiracy theory out there is that Bill Hicks

the Austin stand-up comedian actually just became Alex Jones when he died in 1994 because they do look similar so Billy can you investigate that please Jamie sorry well I was going to say I was looking at pictures of Alex Jones

and there is enough evidence to say that he may have ran a cycle of anabolic steroids. There is 100% enough. Okay. You see the face, the growth of the jaw in forehead and you see the physical development. There's pictures of him shirtless flexing

and it's Alex Jones has definitely messed with his antigen receptors in some way. Allegedly. Definitely. Good job, Billy. Allegedly. Allegedly. I liked that he went straight for steroids. He, um, he's

basically like he's Gwyneth Paltrow he is he is just a louder more shirtless version of Gwyneth Paltrow and he's got like all these different weird things that he says to put in your body so maybe he was experimenting with those at the time and maybe he was like trying out the

super male vitality stuff before it was market approved and experimenting on his own body but he definitely changed he changed a lot physically his voice changed it became more gravely and I think that's probably how all recognize his voice right is like you hear Alex John like you would probably not recognize him

as being a thing as much if he didn't have that like crazy deep voice it does help him I I'm also very woke on that I think that his engineers in the studio I think they have like voice filters that they put on him to make him sound cooler because you hear him and you're like that dude's cool that dude's got that dude's got it all together because he's like you know I got I got the documents right here I can't even do a voice they've admitted this, all right? They've admitted this. And it's right around this time that he starts getting into the modern day, Alex Jones. He evolves into his present day form physically and mentally. And what he's very good at doing is just he likes to toss out that he's reviewed

documents. He likes to toss out that they've admitted this. He loves saying, like, this is public information. They've confirmed this. I had somebody confirmed this to me. But he never actually like you don't set your sources obviously because it's way easier to move on and just be like this is all admitted now right this public public information you can look up and um then 9-11 happens and when 9-11 happens he is the first person to uh to scream and yell about that being an inside job and that george bush blew up the towers and it was i remember when i first found out about the 9-11 truth movement and uh it was it was like shocking to me like i couldn't believe that anybody actually would believe all this stuff.

And his theories, they range from the towers were bombed to there wasn't really a plane that hit the Pentagon, that the plane that hit the Pentagon was empty, that there was like a landing of two planes in Ohio where they transferred the people out of one plane, put him in a second, and then flew an empty plane into the Pentagon. He just had like all these different tentacles going out, like you were saying, throwing a shitload of darts. Full disclosure. I used to be a 9-11 truth.

I was actually going to ask you about that. Yes. No offense. No offense. But you seem like a guy that would be curious about that sort of thing. I seem like a drug guy. I didn't say drug guy. We're not drug guys on the show.

But like sometimes, has anybody ever accused you of being too open-minded? Too open-minded? Yes. Yes. Yes, actually. So, yeah, walk me through that. All right. So when I was growing up, I grew up in a household that was, have you ever heard of the fruit of Islam or the nation of Islam?

Right. So like under Minister Farrakhan and stuff, I grew up, I grew up Muslim like that, right? And so I grew up, like I always say this like an interview. Like when Jehovah's Witnesses used to knock on the door, like my dad used to inform. invite them in and we used to have conversations with them for like two hours like i grew up in that kind of environment my dad was very adamant that we knew uh you know the bible we knew koran and we knew like u.s history like it was it was just it was the big thing and so uh that movement is very anti-government right um in all ways and for a variety of good reasons but some are a little

outlandish but there are a lot of reasons why they're anti-government um when when when that happened i wasn't necessarily intrigued by it i know i was i wasn't really scared because i didn't live in a part of the world that i think that was going to or a part of the country i was going to get bombed by anybody so i was just kind of like whatever about it didn't really affect me like that but as i as i went to uh i went to college i think um and that's when the internet really started ramping up and gaining steam, right? And so this was before I really took critical thinking seriously. There was a video that came out. I forget some video came out and it was documenting. It had all this evidence as to why it was an inside job or as to why. And it sold me. I watched some

video on it and I was sold and you couldn't tell me if I went around telling everybody I knew or like the government did it. And it wasn't until I took a course in critical thinking that really started changing my worldview in general, that how to question and how to analyze things. But it was just something that was not based in any kind of factual world. It was just a lot. You have to make so many leaps and logic to get there. But I was very adamant about it.

The first thing that I thought when I was watching Loose Change was like there have to be, you know how many people would have to be like all involved in this and keep their mouth straight about it for it to work and like nobody it's tough enough to pull off a conspiracy of like brandon walker starting a mississippi podcast with somebody else in this office like people are going to talk about things and to have like the entire uh the entire government being like all into it and civilians and airliners would have to be in on it like it was just like too many people for me so wasn't it though wasn't the thing that like you kind of sound like Alex Jones like Alex Jones. Like Alex Jones on ecstasy. Okay. Alxstasy Jones. A soft or sensual Alex

Jones. Yeah. I can deal with that. Can you read, can you read a couple of Alex Jones quotes? Okay. Yeah. Okay. Do you have any? Uh, no. Do you want? Just say they're turning the frogs gay for me. It's turning the damn frogs gay. No, no, I want like your voice. I want the sweet, I want the sweet tea voice. It's turning the frogs gay. Yeah, that's great. Now say, sexy Alex Jones sexy Alex Jones I like There are a lot worse things to be Yeah I like okay so how about I can't remember my children's name

I just ate a big bowl of chili I can't remember my children's name I just ate a big bowl of chili Okay I like it That's nice Did you guys see the Bon Iver cover Of Alex Jones quotes I sent you guys I did not look at that Billy

It is the funniest thing ever It's just like what we're trying to do right now It's a great look inside Billy's to see like when you give him a project what he thinks you want to hear and it's usually just like the stuff that he's he's like sidetracked by i'm shocked that you didn't include like a whole paragraph about those new tigers that they found in australia billy well it wasn't applicable uh so oh here it is bon iver alex jones song can we put that in yeah okay let's put that in there uh found tigers in australia uh you know the tasmanian tigers that went extinct

why did you just put it in quotes well because they think they saw one on a trail cam is this like a is like a bigfoot tiger no no no this was it was a large predator that lived in tasmania not the tasmanian devil but it was a large marsupial predator carnivore and when you know man came wiped them out and hunted them to extinction because i don't think uh yeah and so then And they think they just filed one on a trail cam recently, and they're investigating. I would imagine that a tiger is, in this case, it's got to be a carnivore, right? It's not technically a tiger. It's a large carnivorous marsupial that's just called the Tasmanian tiger because it has stripes.

I got you. So it's like Tiger Woods 2,000 compared to Tiger Woods now, like he wears red on Sundays, but it's not the same. just a bigger, different color Tasmanian devil. Okay. That's still pretty cool, though. I'm all for uncovering what we thought were extinct species. Billy, can you prepare a report on that, please? Yes.

Thank you. I should also say that when Alex Jones got to Austin, he was on public access radio, he also got to a giant parking lot fight with Space Hitler, who showed up, beat the shit out of him, called him a fraud, called him a jarhead. and allegedly Space Hitler and his buddies actually beat the piss out of Alex Jones in the parking lot. He again had his dad take care of it and had his dad send like a bunch of checks to people

and get that all swept under the rug all allegedly. But there is a police report. And when you hear Alex Jones described what happened, he says that these two guys came up to me. They started making fun of me and attacking me. They had weapons. They smelled like devils. They had goat eyes. This is kind of a recurring theme for Alex Jones

is like he does think that he is in a comic book all the time where it's like a battle of good versus evil. So he says that this guy, Space Hitler showed up and he had like the, I guess the vertical pupils like goats have. I don't know what he means by that, but apparently he got beat up by somebody named Space Hitler and he said he had goat eyes. What the fuck? Goats have those dead eyes.

They do. I would be terrified of dead eyes. he put that in the police report yeah it's in the police report he loves comparing people to goats and hell and shit like that uh but i guess that's the only way that he could ever justify the fact that like the only thing that can defeat alex jones a man as powerful as that would be like satan he's how he has to be like battling against the portions of evil so he said he said that's what happened there um and that kind of uh it pushed him out the door at the uh community access television and he got on the radio and that's when the takes really started to turn up so he gets on

the radio I didn't know this but um the radio station that he started on was called uh it was a company called the Midas Resources that's owned by a guy named Ted Anderson and Ted Anderson decided he was sick he was a gold salesman he's got a shitload of gold right he just like bought a ton of it he's got all these resources and he wants to sell it he's sick of paying for advertising and doing commercials on other channels, other shows. So he says, why don't I make my own radio network and call it the Genesis radio network?

And I can hire people who will then sell my gold products to people listening on the radio who are easy to scare and to believing that the economy is going to collapse and ATMs won't work anymore. And the only safe investment in the world is going to be gold. So this guy started a radio station and hired Alex Jones because he's it's honestly like it's the perfect commercial for gold like listening to

Alex talk about things the world is ending every single day and so if you've got a scared audience yeah tell them to buy up all the gold it's like if a porn company started selling Kleenex too it's like this this is an active engaged audience we know what they're going to be needing so we're going to just provide it to him and so that was that was the radio network that he joined I don't know if you if you guys own any gold if you've ever been like talked into purchasing a shitload of gold paper towels paper towels yeah billy's into uh bitcoin now right billy no it's called pie oh yeah pie he's billy's actually mining his own uh cryptocurrency what is it pie it's it's kind of stupid it's a pyramid scheme

you mine it by doing a pyramid scheme but that increases usership which might make it a real coin soon so good luck with that Billy fake it till you make it yeah so then you know Alex kicked around on the radio for a while and he doesn't have syndication fees so he doesn't

really have like the radio network that sponsors and puts him on the air is not going to like kick him off the air because he says crazy shit they're probably going to be happier with having them on because that means that they're going to sell more of their products but the model that he's on is he makes most of his money

either by selling videos or by selling his own supplements, his own brand of supplements that he puts on his store, which I've dabbled in the super male vitality. I ordered some more of that stuff. It doesn't, I didn't feel any different, but you look like an alpha when you're walking around with a capsule of super male vitality. That's for sure.

How much do those run you these days? It's a good question. I think they're anywhere between like $20 and $60 depending on how much of a beta you are at the time. Okay. So, like, an alpha like me, I don't need that much to restart my engine and get me back up. Well, then that's pretty reasonable price. It is reasonable.

Yeah, to become an alpha, like 60 bucks to be an alpha. Yeah. That's worth it. Okay. Is it reoccurring? Is it like a subscription for alpha in this? I'm sure you can. Yeah, I'm sure that you can, like, set it so that it ships to you once a month.

I just do it as needed just to, like, top myself off every now and again. It's like the middle of winter. You don't do much. Yeah. The middle of winter, I'm like, I haven't seen the sun in a couple weeks. It's like, yeah, maybe cruise the InfoWore store real quick. But, no, I haven't messed with it that much recently, but I did have it back in the day.

And that's how he makes all his money. He makes a shitload of it, really. And it's also around this time when he focuses just straight up on radio. He doesn't know what to do when George Bush is getting out of office. Because Alex Jones, you might think of him as being, like, ultra right wing. He hated George Bush. like George Bush was his diehard, avowed enemy. And he had to figure out, like, how to rebrand himself

because his listeners at the time were just either people like me who were like, holy shit, this guy is out of his mind. I love listening to him because he's funny. And then, but there was a mix of people from all across the political spectrum. And he didn't really know how he was going to rebrand himself. But- Real quick, did you, did he disagree with George Bush on policy level? Or was it just like a personal, what was it?

Do you know? I think it was mostly the fact that he thought George Bush, like, bombed the country on 9-11, had this planned out. And his, like, you know, the Bush family history going back all those years and being tied in with, like, weird finances. I'm sure that that gave him a lot of stuff to be weirded out by and to be distrustful of him with. But he, yeah, I don't think that he liked him.

I thought that he probably on a personal level hated him, too. there was actually there was one time that he showed up at a George Bush event when he was running for governor so yeah he hated him back in the 90s that was like his first thing that he uh he kind of dropped onto the political landscape by interrupting George Bush while he was speaking and started talking about how the UN has a plan to like reduce world population by three billion dollars by starving people and keeping water from him so yes I think he like you name it he just he hated George bush everything about him and the bushes were involved with the skull and bones which is a secret society at yale which was then connected to the bohemian grove where he really has disdain for

anyone involved in that because he thinks that's like the new world order recouping and then the patriot act made him really you know hate this guy yeah stealing of freedom so the bohemian grove just for, because I'm new to that as well. Bohemian Grove was, I mean, I've heard of it, but it was basically just like a secret gathering of higher-ups to... It's like, what?

It's like a frat party. It's like the world's worst frat party that you've ever been to. And Alex Jones, since he didn't have friends, that's, this probably all ties back to the fact that Alex Jones just wants buddies to hang out with and get drunk. Like, he wanted to play beer pong. He wanted to, like, do normal

shit. He wanted to, like, show up and chug a a ton of jungle juice with his friends, but didn't have any. And so then he saw the Bohemian Grove. It was like, there are all these, like, crazy, powerful people getting together, having a party with friends. I don't have any friends, and that pisses me off. That actually would make sense. Like, he probably just got insanely jealous of their kick-ass good time.

I, you know, I personally do not think that it's like a whole huge conspiracy and everything, but there's a lot of biblical imagery and pagan imagery involved in. it so to someone who sees a lot of devils and things Alex Jones was probably going nuts yeah I think that's probably true because like they put on animal masks and shit like that people do have horns I think right like they wear it's there's a large statue of an owl that they burn it's

the videos you know daddy records is very interesting but it's also kind of like you can tell the whole thing is sort of more as we said a frat party of sorts it sounds like lollapalooza for billionaires it was burning man it was literally burning man yeah they burn the big owl it's burning man well think about it if you're like in charge of the world and you control everything like what do you do for fun you got to get fucking weird with it when you have a party you can't just like break out the brandy that's stuff that you do on like a normal afternoon you have to get like you have to get seriously strange with it so i don't know yeah she can drink child blood and burn big out right and now when

the epstein stuff comes out it once again validates what alex jones says yeah so um so yeah go ahead bill it makes no so you know we're talking about those darts he throws he threw a bunch of darts at the wall with builderberg bohemian grove there's a bunch of elite pedophiles and then boom the Epstein stuff comes out and people are like oh my god he's right we should think about like we should like listen to this guy but there's a lot of darts there's a lot of darts out there and so when George Bush was getting out of office he had to figure out how to rebrand himself and he uh the the world economy collapsed there was that whole bailout Obama gets into office and within like a couple months I don't have the exact dates on when his movie came out but I

I remember listening to him, and he made a movie called The Obama Deception. And it came out pretty quickly after Obama got into office, and that put him on, like, the way next level. Like, now he was appealing to, so he had, like, disavowed the Tea Party earlier. He thought that there were a bunch of clowns. But when Obama got into office, Alex Jones was like, you know what? I'm going to go with the Tea Party angle at Obama and say how he's actively, like, trying to destroy the country right when he became president. and that put him on like an entirely new level he started selling seeds survivalists different things you can put in your water a lot of ammo and so he was they're making a

shitload of money for for the radio station he was making a lot of money because now he was selling this video and that's when the the Obama as a joker remember that image like those posters that would be everywhere that was him so he like started that and he absolutely like catapulted himself and he was making so much money when Obama was president that when he got when it came time to reelect him I remember Alex Jones getting on the air and acting like he might vote for Obama and he would rationalize it this way he would say like if Obama doesn't become reelected then I'm going to lose all my money I'm not going to have the same income people are going to be they're not going to be pissed off because I've made them so mad about this president

that he was going to vote for him and he was hoping that he would get reelected, his rationale was more people are getting woken up. I'm raising enough awareness, so it's good for him to be president because he makes it easier to point out what a bad president he is. So he wants to vote him again to make real change.

So he never confirmed or denied that, but there are a lot of people out there that think that Alex Jones voted for Obama in 2012, not 2008. So this is, this is, uh, leaning right into your point. He's either, uh, a cow, or what do you say? Pussy or what? He's either a pussy or a fraud. He might be a pussy fraud.

Yeah. Pussy fraud. That I mean, that, that, that's kind of my thing, like with, uh, with political talking heads in general is you have to like the country disarray or else you don't have a business. Yeah. Nobody, nobody, nobody watches. and that's why billy put money on Biden to win on election night right

billy because yes so when they came out they came out and said Biden has no chance of winning because the ratings weren't good that night they weren't as good as the night of the election as last election cycle so they put up this whole thing talking about

percentage wise how Biden wasn't going to win an odds maker came out with plus uh 1,500 odds on Biden so I took the bet because I was like that is impossible I mean from the data you put out

it's just it's like Alex Jones they have the documents they can read them and tell disperse the information that only they can understand to the rest of the people and that's how it happened so Billy was extremely woke on that

and I have no idea if like your rationale is correct but it does it makes sense like why have one night of election night coverage when you could have five you know why limit the run of the series so uh so yeah that kind of brings us relatively up to date with alex jones he spent like the last so when obama got uh reelected then he just kept that train going he kept the money train going he always was like on the periphery of politics he would never like he didn't trust anybody in the federal government enough to ever like align

themselves but then he found out that trump needed his support because of their connection with roger Stone, and then he became a Trump guy. And in those years, a lot of stuff's happened to him. I guess we probably shouldn't skip over the Sandy Hook stuff now that think about it. So Sandy Hook, 2012? 2012. And he was, like, the very next day, I tuned into his show because I was, I was shuddering to hear, like, the route that he was going to go with it.

But again, that's like... Time out. Real quick. You've been an Alex Jones listener for well over a decade then. Yeah, yeah, I paid attention to him, I think starting in like 2006, 2007. And that's wild to me because I don't think I have had a reoccurring character in my life for that long, other than like family and friends. So it's intriguing to me that you have been that, I don't say invested, but you've been following him for that long and you're not necessarily following because. you agree with him, you're just intrigued by him.

I'm fascinated by him as an individual. And when you put it that way, I'm like, holy shit. Like, I've been listening to Alex Jones on the radio. You stalk him. Like, yeah, I'm a stalker. If I was Alex Jones, I'd be creeped out by me. I've been listening to him for longer than I had a dog. Like, yes, he is.

My relationship with Alex Jones is a top-four-length relationship in my life, which is very, that's that's pretty cool I've lived a pretty excellent life he I hardly ever agree with anything that he says about anything but he's always just been like a fascinating dude to me like somebody that he's he appears to be this confident and all these theories that he's got and but I was like there were times that I haven't listened to him I haven't really listened to for the last couple years he's gotten boring like that's the worst

like if you're not a Trump fan and you're an Alex Jones fan you probably abandoned Alex Jones because he just became like kind of a mainstream is guy where now he's like you know he's involved in the government whereas before it was all him like trying to take on the government and take it

out and uh but I have gone through periods where I stopped listen to him like after Sandy Hook it was tough like I didn't want to listen to him anymore because it was at that point it became very obvious what he was doing which is he was the psychology I was it I do want you to

finish that but I'm intrigued by the psychology of uh because like I do it for I'll follow a lot of like right wing talking heads on Twitter or whatever case maybe on YouTube right just to get another perspective but for like 10 years I'm unsure if I have that resolve like what's the psychology behind you being so loyal a listener yeah well I that long I mean we've had Billy on the show for four years so like I can deal with a lot of shitty takes I my brain is equipped to handle it. No, but they were talking about this a lot when Rush Limbaugh died, that people who listen to the radio are usually alone in a car, usually very, you know, not, they're just not

socially activated. So during these times where they're alone, they're letting all this information stream through head and look, as, you know, before I started working for a part of my take and I listen to part of my take three days a week on the way to school, I felt like I knew PFT, and Big Cat before I ever met them and you have this connection to them and it's weird like you think they're your friends because you know you've had so many conversations with them but you're just listening to it so they become a friend of sorts which causes loyalty which causes you know gullibility and naivety to believe what they're saying it's a very powerful sort of relationship that

you see with Joe Rogan especially I love serious Billy serious Billy has quickly become one of my favorite people you're not wrong but it's just it's interesting to see you like bill you flip bill you flip a switch man this is this is book smart Billy coming out now I like it maybe next time you can be in the studio for this but yeah uh point he's he does have a point which is here's what billy's point boils down to is I had a job and so I commuted so yes Billy's right like it would be in my car I think I just boiled that down to the essentialness of what you're saying there, Billy, which is, like, I was in my car for an hour a day, and Alex Jones would be on the radio during that hour. And so I could either listen to him or listen to, like, Tom Petty Radio again on the only classic rock station in town.

You know, like, do I want to do lead before bed or do I want to turn on Alex Jones on my way back and listen to him just ranting about something ridiculous? So I also haven't been listening to him that much in the last four to five years since I've been up here because I've just, I don't have the time. I also don't know exactly where to find Alex Jones anymore, but he was on my radio every day because I knew that on my lunch break, I could hear him just getting fucking wild with the news, just having an apeshit field day with the news. You know I started listening to podcasts? I got a speeding ticket because I was listening to hyped up music on the way to school. and the cop pulls me over and he goes and he can hear the music walking the car and I'm trying to turn it off and he goes kid you can't listen to that music when you drag you got to put on a podcast yeah and he said if you start listening a podcast I won't give you a ticket I said okay arian how does that square with your history interacting with police officers has anybody has anybody come up to you and said hey uh you know why I pulled you over there son it's because uh you had um you had black thought on and And so I need to, yeah, I recognize my privilege in that sense.

Pardon me, son. You ought not to do this. Try a podcast here. Here's my favorite. That's hilarious. Now, I've never got recommended a podcast by a police officer. All right. So that, I guess we got to talk about the Sandy Hook stuff for a little bit.

But I stopped to listen to him when that came out because it was obvious what he was doing, which is there's so much live footage of the news that comes out when a situation, like that happens. You know, you've got every network there with all their cameras on. You've got news anchors who are some of the dumbest people in the world speaking off the top of their heads for hours at a time, trying to fill the dead air before they get their next update with any actual real facts. And there's a ton of conflicting information that comes in in a situation like that that you have to kind of sort through and figure it out before it becomes what the real story is. And he was just going through all this news footage, finding, like,

a 30-second bit where they interviewed somebody that said they saw a shooter getting arrested in the woods that was hiding out there. So now there's a second shooter. There was just all this like you can take the broadcast from, you know, five different networks over the span of 12 hours, 24 hours, and then cut it up and make it suit your narrative if you put some like badass creepy music in the background and maybe like a little bit of static on the screen when you're video editing it, which he's a master at. and so it seems sinister, and that's what he started to do.

And it was like, I, I just can't even, it wasn't, there's nothing entertaining about that. Like, I couldn't, I couldn't listen to the guy for a long time because it actually, like, made me sick, hearing him, like, go down this road that was just, like, shocking. Didn't he recently get sued or something like that over this? Or what was the, I remember it was in the news recently? The psychosis argument. Yeah. so he's yeah so he's uh the texas supreme court just kind of put the final nail in his coffin a couple

months ago i think where now he is he's free to be sued by the sandy hook family uh for defamation for i guess libel is probably on there too but he's fucked is the bottom line like they're going to take all of his money from because he did are they are they proceeding are they actually going to do it yeah they're proceeding and they're going to take all his money from i don't think that there's anything that he can do about it either like there's no the argument that he was using was one it's a bit he tried doing that one like the my bad sorry for saying that like your dead four year old was a bit that I was doing I'll work on that and then the second the second one was the psychosis one where he famously said like I forgot my children's names in a deposition

he couldn't remember his kids names because he just had a big bowl of chili which that to me that's that's a better argument than like psychosis or I was doing as a bit like if you if you house a gigantic bowl of chili maybe it's got some peppers in there it's spicy like that i can't think for hours after doing that so i i do sympathize with him on the chili angle no question and bill is interesting what were you saying about the uh about the psychosis part his argument was that because he'd been lied to by corporations the government elected officials so much he couldn't disconcern the difference between real and fake and you know if you start this is why i'm this is why i made the point earlier was like is alex jones a fraud and trying to you know sell content to make a show

or he is or is he actually a tortured individual who went into the bohemian grove you know questioned officials about it and got them spooked and you know uncovered so much that you know some of it was true so he has the tip of the iceberg type mentality towards everything meaning like you know oh this is just the tip of the iceberg there must be everything's a lie which i think a lot of individuals today are even sort of you know getting into and that's like like fake news like all this stuff sort of you know the whole idea of it the psychology of it is very messes people up in the brain because they don't know what to believe and i don't think he knows what to believe. I like that his explanation was like, okay, you can either be on trial or you can

put the whole damn system on trial. He put the system on trial where he was like, no, it's all your fault for filling my head with this poison. That's something, that's again, something like you see in a movie that you don't ever expect to have. I'm trying to say it's going to be a great movie, though. Yeah, I'm putting, you're all on trial. You can't judge me. I'm here to judge you. and yeah that kind of like that leads us up to about where we're at right now he also we should mention he loves taking his shirt off which is a great marketing strategy like if he's if he's endorsing his pills if he's in therapy with his family he just always the easiest way to drive your point home as a male in America is to take your shirt off and say it louder that's that's

like his motto that's his slogan in life and he's actually right about that like I do pay more attention to Alex Jones when he rips his shirt off And then he starts screaming at me. I don't have that, I've actually never really been that guy, man, to take my shirt off. And I was one of the guys that could. Yeah, that's fucked up. You know who else is like that?

Adam Sandler. Adam Sandler is jacked up. But he just wears giant shirts so that, like, once a year when he does take his shirt off, people are like, oh, my God, I never knew that Adam Sandler was jacked up. This is brand new news to me. I had no idea. Adam Seller was, he was yoked.

He's probably the last person that you expected me to say. Like, you know, don't mess with the Zohan period. He was yoked. Now he's, now he's, like, you probably got a dad. He probably got a dad bod. Yeah, he's got dad bod. Yeah, that's what I thought he always had. That's wild.

What was, what was your go-to movie, Aaron, when you would get mad at somebody and you wanted to, like, put the fear of God on him? Like, just random, it depends on the situation. And where I was. So, but you weren't, I'm going to take my shirt off to fight you guy. No. I don't really talk, well, yeah, there's not a lot of this pre-fight happenings. It just usually happens or it doesn't.

I'm not like the intimidating kind of. It's just if you get. He's never been in a bro off. No, no, no, go off. Yeah, you've never been like bro saying it again to my face? Nah. It's like, from my dealings, it's like, if, if you're pushing and shove in and talking shit, you don't really want to fight. You don't really want to go there.

that's just that's how i came up if you're going to do it you're going to do it if not we just need to not that's how i was that's a big strategy where i come from is just like you keep telling somebody to say it to my face say to my face come on say it again that that's another one it's like repeat it so you know that that bad thing you just said to me i you won't say that one more time say i would give you one chance that was probably a next that's that's what the that's what the oh you holder was doing and then an mama fighter jacked up because he was about action yeah yeah it's it's there's not a lot of talkers like the the the the people um that be pushing they used to just push each other and you push like hit me again so do

it one more time it's like bro you don't want to fight it's fake it's people are fake and look i i i've been guilty of it it's just like it's like it's like yeah the the situation has led you to the the peer pressure has been like i have to fight right now but you don't really want to fight and everybody's looking at me now, so now I've got to fight, and you don't got to fight, though. So I actually have some friends that know Alex Jones from his time in Austin that have had occasion to sit with him on, like, a company dinner. And Dave told me some crazy stories, just about him, like, personally. He's a big drinker. That's not really a shocker.

I don't think to anybody. Huge drinker. He likes making out with his woman at the table, which, respect. Congrats. I mean, if you're, if you've fucked 150 times by the time you're 15, you have to have gotten it busy like in a few weird places, you know, I wonder what his number is now, dog. He's what, 45, 46? He's single again now, so. Wait, no, I think he got, he got remarried, Billy. Oh, keep it in your pants. Yeah, he's, he's off the market right now. No, he's 50, 50. He's, he was born in 74. So that would make him

46, 47? 47. February 11th, so he's 47. Yeah, and well there are probably a couple other things that we that we can talk about in terms of like what he's famous for, Billy, that you sent over, you sent over like the greatest hits of his conspiracies to us.

We didn't talk about weather control. Kim Trails. So Kim Trails, he was really big on that. And like a lot of other Alex Jones things, there's like a little bit of truth that's at the very deep inside of it, which is yes, the government like has

explored what would it look like to control the weather and so he then took that to mean that they're putting like these liquefied aerosols in every single commercial airline that flies over are are we in the trust tree right now so i've heard kim trails a bunch like you just hear it i have no what is that i've never i don't know what i'm going to let billy answer it because i think billy still might believe no kim trail no i don't believe it no airplanes travel at certain speeds at certain altitudes, when the air goes over the wing, it creates a pressure, something to do with the pressure and humidity that causes, like, the cloud-like formation, which is totally physics-backed.

It's just one of those things that, you know, people don't understand unless they studied physics. And I can't even explain it. But if you have someone like Alex Jones, who claims that they have the documents, he can be saying it's aerosol, terraforming, weather control type, you know, sterilization techniques where he's basically saying that there's planes that are spraying various different chemicals that have, you know, there's so many different conspiracies of what it could be. Some are saying that it's, you know, trying to kill the fertility for population control. Some are saying it's weather controlling.

Some are saying that it's, you know, terraforming of the population. planet. So it's a whole host of, you know, theories. Yeah, they're called Contrails. It's called Contrails and it's what you said. It's basically ice crystals. Yeah. From the exhaust of the engine that is literally all it is. And people see that and they extrapolate all this other shit from it. And so with no evidence. That's what I said. Like they'll use the government's experimental, whatever or whatever the case. And they'll leap to oh they're controlling the weather like did you ever were you ever a kim trail guy i was never a kim trail guy but i heard of the kimtro um but i was never a kimtro guy and i looked

into it that's i knew what it was it honestly it's a fun theory to talk about because when you're growing up you look at the sky and you're like oh shit those are some weird clouds and so for somebody just be like oh it's actually poison that would freak me out too like if i if i didn't know any better I'd be like, yep, that makes a lot of sense. They're poising us with these weird fucking clouds. And then there's the, the Frogs Gay part. We should talk about their turn of the frogs gay. One of his all-time quotes, can we play that?

Their turn of the Frogs gay. This is a Billy special. And like the Kim Trails, there's like a small amount of truth in it. No, the thing is that this actually has a lot of truth. Because you can't, you can't ask a frog what their sexual preferences. Yeah. Are the frogs, are the frogs like develop? helping love for other male frogs.

I think you're talking about their genitals, you're talking about like what type of genitals they have, right? Right. That's different. That's not, that's what Aryan's getting at. Right. Exactly.

So it's like it's the darts on the wall. Like, yeah, there's some truth. Exactly. There's some truth to it. But it just, that's what snake oil salesmen do is they play on people's ignorance of the situation

and gollabilities. This is exactly what he does. So there's some other great quotes here. I want to have Big T. reads more to the... Just to the sexy, my normal voice. Tomorrow, Alex Jones. Okay. Start with the literal right there.

That's a good one. Literal vampire potbelly goblins are hobbling around coming after us. My spirit gets close to that evil, and I feel it go, ah. Yep. The next highlighted one? Keep going, yeah. President Trump. is in great danger. Evidence is mounting

that he's been deliberately killed at Walter Reed Military Hospital. Jesus Christ. I didn't know about that. Are these other ones that aren't highlighted? Are these ones too? Wait, is Donald Trump dead? They think that they're trying to, when he went into the hospital with COVID, they're like, they're killing him right now because he's also

a COVID denier. How does how exactly does evidence mount that the president has been killed? I feel like if you're Alex Jones, you either have to sit, you have to say with your chest, Alex. You have to be like the president's dead. I've received... This one. This is a good one. This is a favorite of mine. Police

officers smoke marijuana once a year as part of their jobs. Just got to stay abreast of what the kids are doing, you know? Don't disagree with that. Well, that was his first take. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I think... I think cops would be doing all kinds of drugs

taking it, selling... I really do think they sell that shit. So Alex actually says that he smokes weed once a year, just to monitor it to see like how much stronger it's becoming. And he also says that like George Soros is making marijuana stronger to

decrease the brain activity of the youth. And again, that's one of those things is like Soros, one of his like thousands of investments might be an medical marijuana company out there. So by saying, taking something like that and being like they're just trying to destroy the brains of America's

youth, like he does, he loves taking it one step further than it ever should be taken. But do like the idea of Alex Jones is getting high once a year. And I think he did on the Joe Rogan show, right? He didn't even tweet out. This is purely anecdotal. But I used to smoke weed growing up.

And the weed I smoked growing up was tolerable. The shit that they sell now is way stronger than what I remember being high from when it was a kid. Like this shit now is like, I can only take like a hit or two before I'm like, I'm zooted. Like I don't want to move. I actually think that weed's too strong now. I've been saying that for a couple years.

Like, weed, just back off. Back off. Just give me, I can't smoke and watch a movie anymore. I have to, like, get high, and then I'm, then I can't function. Yeah, I don't like, I don't like getting high and not knowing where I'm at or what's going on. Like, I like being able to, yeah, function. That shit is, weed's too strong. That's, I'm behind that movement.

Hashtag, bring back mids. Bring back mid. Okay, what's that. Not Reggie, though. That's two. We're going to take it back. No, no, no, no. No stems, no seeds.

But just, like, just decent mids. Whatever happened, just getting high, ordering a pizza and then, like, yeah, and then like watching a movie or something like that. You can't do that anymore. And the names. Can we cool it with the names? Like, you don't really know that shit like that. Like, there's a name for everything.

You probably got a strand named after you. Like, there's so many fucking weed names that it's just, I can't keep tracking the shit no more. Pardon my bake was one. Yeah. I think somebody actually actually. try that. See? I haven't tried it. That'd be pretty cool, though.

It would be pretty cool to try it, your own story. I think that's kind of ridiculous that you haven't tried it. Pardon my toke? That'd be another good one. It's a sick one. Yeah. Well, you know, they just legalized in New Jersey. Here, here. Let's go. So that's most of the stuff about Alex Jones that I have. But my final theory about him, and this is an Alex Jones type take. But I think that there is like a 50% change. that Alex Jones is or has been an intelligence officer or linked to the CIA.

I actually think that he is the guy if you wanted to like stir up unrest in this country. If you wanted to do everything that Alex Jones claims that the government is trying to do, you would have a hell of an investment on your hands if one of your agents was Alex Jones doing this type of stuff. hiding in plain sight it would have worked perfectly right and he's like he's always pinning shit on the CIA he's talked about Glenn Beck maybe being a CIA agent like he's he's wild but I do actually think there's like 50% chance that he is involved in the CIA or has been maybe knowingly maybe unknowingly but like our CIA has done weird or shit than that like this would be a knowingly this would be like such a successful operation if Alex Jones was

a CIA agent. It would be like successful beyond their wildest dreams. We got the right guy to do this job. He did it perfectly. Job well done at the end of day. Let's go start a new republic down in Central America again. But like this is, that's maybe my spiciest Alex Jones take. But I think I could be talked into believing it 100% if somebody smarter than me could articulate more specific reasons why. Now that you've said that and I'm kind of running through it, it would be so brilliant you just get this crazy unhinged lunatic tell them what you're doing or maybe go a step further so that if people found out like what you were actually doing it's not as bad have him go out there distribute to the masses do whatever you want pal and nobody believes him and then you

can just get away with murder yeah what if he's right about everything what if what if the frogs do fall in love with other male frogs what if what if like there's still radioactive salmon that's the swimming. I think at one point he said like the salmon was swimming in our rivers in like the middle of the country which you need to learn

a little bit more about fish but it would be crazy and I think I think I've talked myself into it like Alex Jones being a CIA agent would explain a lot I read a fascinating article about

how Q the Trump shit how Q was actually a sci-op it was from somebody on the inside and it was fascinating how they took you there fascinating i don't think that alex jones is but i'm i'm with you if uh if somebody can convince me man i'm i'm here for well so at at the capital event that alex jones organized and he like took credit for it so i'm doing an alex jones right now like they've admitted this

they've got all the like Alex jones said like yes i booked this this was my event that i started right and he's the people that he has told like for the last 30 years that the government is going to take away like all your freedom and that like they're trying to literally enslave you and drink your children's blood like people he told that to they're running inside and he's trying to be the voice of reason like no no no we don't do that we uh we like matt this goes back to what i was saying earlier which is if he believes that he's a fraud or a pussy if you if you actually in that moment believe that the government is like drinking your children's blood and they're trying to like kidnap you then yeah in the minds of all those people they are totally justified to be

running in but Alex doesn't actually believe that shit and he i don't want to like say that he is too far into q because like he's had his like public beefs with q but um he definitely has told people that the government is doing evil shit and so if he doesn't believe that himself but he's telling other people uh that they need to fight for it and they end up fighting like, yeah, either you're a pussy or a fraud, dude. There's no other way out of it because if you weren't a pussy, you would be fighting. But instead, you're a fraud

just making other people worked up to make more money for yourself. I don't... I can't call it, man. I think you pinned it perfectly. He's either cow or dog or he's the fraud. Yeah. I agree with that I'm saying. Yeah, Billy?

I think he might be a little schizzo. That's actually another. option is like he I think he's probably bipolar probably got some personality disorders going on seeing demons in things and talking about all this imagery that's evil is very paranoid and if I'm not expert by any means but if you were to have someone actually evaluate him you might find that in there but the interesting thing is he's not dumb like he's not a dumb guy which is which is the I guess the frustrating part to me is like if you I remember one time minister farrakhan said something that was that drew a lot of criticism and rightfully so he said Hitler was wickedly great right and what he

meant by that was anybody who can corral that amount of people to do something in any capacity has an amount of greatness to them right he got a lot of flag for but I understood what he was saying so Alex Jones is not Hitler that's not what I'm saying but what I'm saying is he has in order that to be captivating like that entertaining or whatever there has you have to have a certain genesee qua if you will about you that that keeps people there entertained and and like like there's just dots here and there where dog you're not dumb or you know what you're talking about here but just you need to go a little deeper or whatever the case may be and it's that that part's the frustrating and fascinating part

about him and just the what he represents in this internet culture in general dude he should have been a football coach. If Alex Jones was an interim football coach, he would go, he would go nine and seven. If, like, he got, if he got an entire year to implement a system, like, imagine the pregame speeches and halftime speech. Imagine being a

referee, being an official, and you know that Alex Jones is, like, just waiting to launch into you, like, jump on, that's a fucking false flag, you know, like, he would be an incredible, like, short-term motivator. It would obviously, like, fall on deaf ears after a while in the locker room.

But, like, if he had just channeled himself into doing something like that, I think, like, I mean, he's probably not that different of a human being from a lot of football coaches. I didn't like a lot of my coaches, so I probably think you're right. He would fit right in. He's got a little Shiano in him, for sure. Would you hire Big T? So Big T. I knew the second. Big T's a die-hard Tennessee Volunteers fan, Aaron.

So you have a lot in common. Would you hire Alex Jones to be your coach at the University of Tennessee if you were guaranteed... See, I know you do this. If you were guaranteed a national championship. I think I've just about expressed to you that I would hire damn near anybody if it guaranteed Tennessee would win a national championship. You said Khalid Sheikh Mohammed at one point. You said that. But you said yes, I would do it.

If there was another stipulation added on to that. So the stipulation would be that he gets executed at midfield right after, right upon. Upon winning the national title. So we win the national title, and then he's executed. I think that's fair for everybody. But listen. Wait, would you become head coach, the Tennessee volunteers? Would I become head coach Tennessee?

Fuck, yeah. If you were guaranteed to win a title, but then you had to beheaded at midfield right afterwards? How old am I like my age now? Yeah, but you get that chip. I would do it for the rest of Volmation, absolutely. You would, okay. I'd sacrifice myself. Beheading?

Yeah. Okay. That's probably the best way to go to be honest with you. That would be, I mean, imagine how many people would tune in for that game a lot. You would be the ratings king. Yeah. Everybody would have to watch that. Listen, that flag flies forever.

I mean, it's facts. It would then for sure. Yeah, that's, man, it's powerful stuff. You would definitely get a street named after you. Yeah, I mean, that name streets for everybody over there. They would have to name, it would have to be something bigger than a street for me. I'd have to at least have my own food item at the stadium at big tea field no it'd have to be like the big tea burger like I'll take oh that's even better yeah listen there are a few things you can

get better than like an iconic food item yeah like I'll take mine big tea size please oh what if like the big the big beers and big sodas like a big soda at Neeland Stadium is called big tea size I would I there you could bestow no bigger honor okay all right so that's all it takes he'll sacrifice sacrifice his head and bring glory back to Knoxville. I think, Phil, do we have people in the athletic department that listen to this show? Probably. This show?

I know that they're fans of Barstool, so I don't know. They probably are going to be interested here what Arian has to say about the state of the program. Do you want to give your state of Tennessee, your state of Tennessee football area? My real one? Yeah. Go off. Tennessee football I think that they

the hub of I have burned many bridges at Tennessee not by choice it's by perception but Tennessee I think has a longstanding tradition right they're very traditional in the way they do things

And I think that's to their detriment. They're so hung up on the way things were and how to do things that it stops them from any kind of progression. And so that has everything to do with recruiting, has everything to do with all of that. And so I think until they adapt to the youth like they need to, they're going to be stuck. and until the NTA pays their players, I ain't going to watch anyway, so it is what it is. Now, I don't want to speak for Arian, but what I heard was that it feels like 98. It feels like 98 again? Can you confirm?

No, I can't confirm. It does not feel like 98. I can't confirm. All right. It probably won't for a while. So that's the state of Tennessee football. We'll check in, probably make that a weekly segment where you can just give us your updated thoughts. arian of what happened in the last seven days i know you're very passionate about i'm here i do follow

football on instagram man there we go just to tap in man just to tap in there we go that's a start so that makes me feel good avery you got anything you want to add before i was just going to say irian you're looking at a guy who went to an airport to wait for a plane to see if a coach was potentially on the plane that's that is true i don't think i don't think it's to everyone's benefit here if we let area know like how big of a tennessee fan i am no i think it is i think he has to know yeah tennessee droza uh not currently i do own some you have tennessee jose a joke a pair of boxers i not not they don't say they don't have a power t on them but they are orange actually you know what i am wearing the orange and white striped boxers right now are they the right

pantone no they're a little off can you show do you mind just show a little i mean all just the side just the side Just the same. Are you actually are wearing... I think. I'm so excited for this reveal. It's like a ginger reveal. He is wearing his Tennessee underwear. That's fucking insane.

What the fuck was not joking, me. It just happens to be orange. Jesus Christ. But yeah, no, recently I did go to the Teterboro, New Jersey executive airport, because we thought James Franklin might be landing there. And he wasn't. He wasn't.

And he absolutely wasn't. Yeah. It was a day well-spinned. What was James Franklin? He's Penn State's coach. So when we were, when we were hiring a new coach, there were planes from Knoxville and State College, Pennsylvania, both getting into an airport near New York City at the same time. So I was like, maybe somebody's agent works here. Maybe they're meeting in New York to, like, hammer out a contract.

So I was like, I'm going to go to the airport. Couldn't see you anyway, but it was not them. That is an unhealthy obsession. I am not here to judge. Dude, everybody's got advice. Like, I just, it occurred to me, I'm, like, roasting big tea for having, like, orange boxers on, but we did uncover that. Like, that's probably more healthy than spending 12 years mainlining Alex Jones' take.

That is true, my brother. You have been, you've been stalking him for 12 years. So, yeah. Waiting in the bushes, not really agreeing with him, just kind of. Just, like, damn, I can't believe he said that. Like, I'm such a chump, like, for actually doing that. But, you know, we all have. have her interest and mine i do that and too much of it there we go off the sheesh got the

sheesh going no but is i was going to say it is funny how crazy this show can go like we could have done a whole show on bohemian grove just on its own so uh you can follow all the socials at macrodosing pod uh twitter and instagram and let us know what you want to hear like we could we'll talk about anything i would say right i mean Alex jones we we could have talked about him for six hours with all the different theories that he has but um i don't i just wanted to be personally i wanted to learn more about his life and like where he comes from and all the shit that he's done and he just didn't like show up on tv you know screaming well so it's his first time on tv actually i'll leave you guys with this uh the very first time i saw him was 2006 uh he was interrupting a segment on fox news

where it was haroldo rvera talking about how to solicit homosexual sex in airports it was right that Senator Larry Craig had been arrested in Montana, I think. And so he's in Times Square doing a live shot. And Alex Jones leads like a group of 100 people into the shot, screaming about 9-11 being an inside job. And then Geraldo was like taken aback by this person interrupting his great segment that he had planned out about like how to fucking restrooms. And he was like, what is this crazy guy talking about?

Alex gets arrested. They let him out the next day or later on that night. And I saw him and he looked older. then that was 2006 he honestly looked like he was 55 years old so he's like he's Benjamin buttoned himself in the last 17 years

but he still looks old as shit somehow but yeah that was that was my intro to him and we could have talked about any number of things that he's done and his different theories that he have probably could have talked about him forever but yeah just kind of like a brief biography

of Alex Jones of reported CIA agent Alex Jones so that'll be up for you guys to decide but yeah i think that's that's all i got for me today if there's anything else you guys want to throw in i'm all yours the youtube algorithm got me i was just like in middle school just messing around looking for the Lochness monster bigfoot type stuff and just throws you right into all that stuff so so were you did the YouTube algorithm like make you become a fan of his no just made me watch the videos and then i had to like figure out like this isn't real like you can't believe the whole world is trying to kill

everybody that's crazy i bet a lot of people out there like most kids that are growing up right now are going to have to have their this is when i this is when i realized that some of the shit i was watching on youtube was just you know trying to radicalize me yeah yeah that's a real thing though this is 100% on a serious i don't know yeah there should a thousand percent be a mandated curriculum change to our kids about social media management like how to navigate that shit because the depression rates

suicide rates are skyrocketing from when all of this shit started and it's just going to continue to grow unless it's addressed like on a policy level that hasn't been and needs to. Yeah so where does that factor in because it's like it's tough to to figure out like

how do you limit who's going on YouTube? What are the things like the magic words that you say that will get you kicked off the algorithm or whatever. Are you saying, like, in schools, we should teach critical thinking? Two things need to happen, two things need to happen, right? Which one, I know for sure, isn't going to happen. But the first thing that I don't think is going to happen is I think all of these major media

companies, YouTube, Google, all these. They need to change their algorithms, Instagram, all these people, to where it's not profit-driven. Like, it's more chronological, right? It has nothing to do with what your, you know, data is telling to feed it right that needs to be eliminated because what what that's doing is is learning you and feeding you and you don't necessarily know what's good for you right but I don't think they're ever going to do that that is the that is the crux of capitalism and this is the country that we should we should we next time do algorithms table data harvesting

and um that'd be interesting yeah I I we're probably cut Yeah, finish this one, but that would be a great next topic. No, 100%. Right of death. The last thing that they need to do that, I think that we can is implement course curriculums in schools, just like it's mandatory. You do PE, right, or whatever the case it would be. There needs to be a class on how to healthily manage your usage of social media with kids,

whether it's Instagram or Twitter or YouTube. but and getting kids to understand that whatever you search, there'll be more like videos up, you know, stuff like that or understanding like self-value in these, in these apps, because people are getting lost. I'm literally like the, the plastic surgery business is going through the roof because everybody wants to look perfect, right? And it's just like a little shit like that is really affecting our psyche as a country.

100% of the world. All right. Psychological health. Yep, yep. Because we use our brains way more than any other people before. We're getting, we get into like Billy doing, you know, your brain is actually like only 10% of your bodyway. We're only use 10%. No, that's what I'm saying.

We're probably going to cut this before, right? No, I think this is a good natural place to stop right now. So that was awesome. I had a good time. We'll fuck around with the format a little bit. Maybe Arian will do the, uh, the crux of the talking next time where he presents a topic. but I think this was a decent decent start for the show.

Let us know what you think. Don't be brutally honest. Like lie to me a little bit online. So if you are giving me constructive criticism or feedback, make sure you start it with telling me how handsome I am. And then I'll be more receptive to hear any other criticisms that you might have. But yeah, that about does it for me today. Thank you guys for joining me.

Avery, Big T. Aaron, Billy. Even you, Billy. Thank you, guys. I hope I didn't mansplain too much. much. No, it's fine. It's fine. You voice planned. All right. We'll see you next week, next Tuesday. Love you guys.