Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - The Mandela Effect

Episode Date: October 19, 2021

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the crew talks about false and distorted memories. Everything from Froot Loops to Luke I am your father, you'll hear everything you need to know on The Mandela Effect. Also this week comes with a PACKED Tennessee Minute, as Big T defends his alma matters honor and producer Avery talks about his first SEC experience. All of this and more on today's show. Tune into Nanodosing on Thursday for Art of War - Chapter 3.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

Hey, macro dosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Welcome back to macro dosing, the only choice in podcasting. It's good to have you guys back on today. We got a relatively full house, no coldly here today. He's getting things ready for the start of NBA season right now, so he's working on some blog stuff. But we've got the rest of the squad. We got Billy, Big T, Avery, Mad Dog, Arian, all here today.

I think right off the bat, Conner has some explaining to do. Big T has, was it a disgraceful performance that your Tennessee volunteer fans put up? I'm not going to talk about the team. You want to jump right into it? We're not going to talk about the team because I thought that the team, they equipped themselves well. They lost 31 to 26. Aaron, did you watch any of this game? Yeah, hold on real quick.

I think I had no, your name is Connor? Yeah, I don't know why he went. No fucking good. Yeah, I don't. I had no clue your name was Connor, bro. I took the tea away from him this week because I don't, I don't think that you should, you shouldn't want to be associating yourself with the Tennessee volunteers. Let me tell you some.

They threw mustard onto the field. Let me tell you something. Connor. All right. So here's the deal. Y'all, y'all just going to have to let me go for about five minutes here. What happened Saturday night was not the result of that final call on the spot, which was wrong. Can you feel, can you film me in?

I didn't. Okay. Okay, so for those who didn't watch the game, it's 3,1.26, late in the game, we're driving. It's 4th and 24. We complete the pass, get right at the first down marker, and the ref who spotted the ball was at running in from the line of scrimmage. So he ran 24 yards behind the play. The spot was egregiously wrong. He may not have gotten there. He may have. I think he was right on it. But regardless, the spot was a full yard short. earlier in the game so that was not the first call that went against us

earlier in the game Tyler Barron our guy the stadium was so loud that Ole Miss ran what appeared to be a read option the quarterback keeps the ball and the stadium was so loud he thought he heard a whistle there was no whistle the play was going on so Tyler runs up and just rips the ball out of his hands

takes it in for a touchdown the ref runs with him like the play was live and then they confer for a second and they say, oh, well, his forward progress was stopped. There was no forward progress. He didn't run the ball. He literally just stood there, had it ripped out of his hands, and it went for a touchdown. So obviously, in a five-point game, that would have been the difference.

A bunch of calls went against us. So after the spot with a minute left, that ended up being a turnover on downs, some of the students started throwing trash onto the field. It delayed the game for 20 minutes. Terrible look. And then, but so then, but they couldn't like, we saw three, timeouts, we stop them three times, get the ball back, return the pun out to the 50, get down near the red zone, our quarterback gets hurt with 18 seconds left, so then we have to bring in the

backup, and he had two plays. One of them hit off our guy's fingertips in the end zone for what would have been the game when he touched down. And then the last play was not good. He didn't throw the ball and he ran out of bounds 10 yards short of the end zone. But anyway, all anybody talked about after the game obviously was the trash. Now, let me tell y'all something. for the better part of going on two decades now a decade and a half i guess 2007 when aryan was there was the last time we won the east but lane kiffin was there in 2009 and looked like he could have had tennessee back to where it expects and should be then he leaves in the dead of night leaves tennessee in shambles and since then we've been dog shit so let me tell you something when he comes back to neland stadium and we put the the environment from i want er er er not erie and avery to

talk about this afterwards because he was there. The environment from every person I know that was there, they say it was one of the, if not the best sporting environment they've ever been in their life. It was unbelievable. And for that, for the SEC officiating to go down the way it did in that game, I think it was a, a, what's the word I want to use? Completion, just the straw that broke the camel's back for 12 years of being the butt of

every joke, losing, being vilified by the national media as bad. Are you, hey, bro, are you justifying niggins throwing trash on the field right now? Is that what you doing? I don't condone it. I do understand it. Is this a stance? I'm being 100% serious. The things that were said in the national media by the same people who say this

shit every time they did it when the Shiano hire didn't happen. They do it every time they can because they score points in their little club when they, when they shit on Tennessee fans. It's like their little code. let me read you are you saying that Tennessee volunteers fans should be a protected class let me read you the lead from Pete Thammel's article that he wrote on Sunday morning

as the dozens and dozens of items flew down onto the field everything from water bottles to a mustard bottle to a yellow golf ball Tennessee's reputation as having the worst fan base at college football grew incrementally as each item crashed to the turf another piece of empirical evidence was added to a rich history of collective classlessness

these people It's dog whistling. Shit on Tennessee fans. Like the same people who are so passionate to fill up a stadium of 102,000 people for a team that hasn't been worth a shit in 15 years that are passionate enough that these people can make a good living writing about sports. And they turn around and act like they're, Ole Miss threw trash onto the basketball court at our basketball team two years ago.

And nobody cares Sunday morning in London. They were throwing trash. Was there a bottle of mustard? I don't, PFT, who? I love the fact that there's a Tennessee fan that brought in a bottle of mustard to the same. Well, it was probably a flask. That's the bigger thing.

They smuggled it. It was probably a flask. That's cool. I like that then. Yeah. I do want to know where the rain's golf. Are you just saying that is just saying, you're just saying like,

I really hope nobody, nobody went B-Y-O-M. That is, that is speculation. Honestly, you know what? You know why this is funny as fuck to me, bro? This is why this is funny as fuck. because for years, like, as long as I remember being in sports, fans have always told players that that's part of the game. Like, you've got to take the criticism as part of the game.

And Tennessee fans are mad at sports writers for calling Tennessee fans class list. That's fucking hilarious. Yeah. And the blowback is the next thing is so trash on the fucking floor. Listen, I don't think sports writers pay your salary. as fans, okay? So you need to step up your game. You need to toughen up a little bit.

It's a motivation. It's a part of the lore, bro. It's a part. It's like, it's like Philly fans, right? Philly fans get shit on all the time in NFL. But that makes it fun. Like, that makes, that's a part of the sports world. It makes it fun.

And so I guess they just got it out for Tennessee. I didn't even know, because I don't read sports writers, like, article pieces on fans, but it's like I didn't know that they had this disdain for Nobody else in this room will get it, and I don't expect y'all to. But what happened Saturday was the culmination of more than a decade of bullshit. And I think it would have happened much sooner in many places than it would have been Knoxville. Also, let's take just the one game by itself. Hang on, hang on, hang on.

I want to say two more things. What happened Saturday in Knoxville would have happened anywhere in the SEC. Florida, Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, wherever you want, it would have happened there. with that officiating crew doing what they did. Secondly, you know, the SEC, its slogan is it just means more. And it wants to market itself as somewhere where the passion, like, makes the sport. And it does. It's incredible. But don't talk about that passion. And then when it goes slightly awry, turn around and try to talk about the school like the people are saking it. Hey, bro, you sound like a, you sound like a nigga that beat his wife and you're trying to justify

how that. No, no, no, no, no, no, none of that. Uh-uh. That's disgusting. That's sickening. You sound like Pat 40 right now. You sound like Pat 40. You're trying to, bro, throwing trash on the floor. Wrong. It's wrong. It's wackish.

Fuck, but what you're doing is justifying it. I'm not justifying it. I should not have happened. It was a bad look. I wish I didn't have to sit here and talk about it. You spent the first five minutes of the pod, setting up the scene as to why it was okay to throw trash on the floor.

Let's talk about the 70,000 people that didn't throw mustard. No, no, I have to get props to Tennessee fans. Because the Tennessee fan that threw the bottle of dip spit at Lane Kiffin, he closed the top on it. Respect. Respect to him. That means he like, he just wanted to hit him with something, but, you know, not loosen the top a little. So if he did hit him, that the dips pit would get all over him. So he could have, he could have like thrown a dips pit bomb at him, but it was just a bottle.

That's true. I do like, Connor being like, well, let's not forget the fact that it took us a long time to throw stuff on the most franchises, most, excuse me, y'all just won't get it. Most fan bases would have thrown the trash earlier. They would have. They absolutely would have. Also, rushing the field is infinitely more dangerous than what happened in Knoxville, not even comparable.

I think we can all agree that it's, it is unfair to like point at one particular fan base and be like, hey, this is the only place this would ever happen. Has, have these guys ever been to any football game ever? That's my main point. Like, it's ridiculous. We're all kind of shitheads. Football fans? we have the capability

you all have the capability inside you or at least your fan base does to have a performance like that we shouldn't act like we're above one school but the reality is it did happen in Knoxville but yeah I almost respect what Big T's doing right here which is just like you know what I'm not

doing anything like this is you are yeah you are I was trying to give you credit Big T I was saying you didn't even you didn't even wait you were just like immediately you know what I'm going to go immediately past being like sorry or fan base screwed up big time to you know what it's only it's only a big deal because all these writers keep talking about it was wrong it shouldn't have happened you should never throw

trash onto the field that's a dumb and juvenile thing to do but when there i understand why people did it i really do and i don't i don't blame them for it okay wait that's wild you should stick to one of those two things that you just said no they're not mutually exclusive they can both be true. It was wrong and dumb to do and there was a reason it happened. But you're also saying I get it. Anything that has ever happened has that explanation. That's true. That's true.

Yeah. Okay. So then they're not mutually exclusive. Then we agree. Yeah. Listen, I shouldn't have robbed that bank, but on the other hand, that's where all the money is. So how is I going to get it? Y'all don't get it and that's fine. But as someone who lived there for years, I don't get it being a fucking sensitive-ass fan. No, nigga. Stop throwing shit on the field. I actually, I agree.

Don't do that. I really don't think it's that bad of a look if you're just throwing like, if you're throwing mustard and shit onto the field and you're not hitting anybody with it. And you're just, you're just littering at that point. Like that's not good, but it's not bad. Yeah, I don't even think it's not even crucial. Like, it's not even like, who gives a fuck, right? But because it's being talked about and the fan base is being attacked now,

that's what's funny to me. It's like they're defending their fandom and it's fucking hilarious. Like, what does it even mean? I don't know what it means to defend fandom. That's wild to me. I mean, there was that there was that example that that it's traditional to like throw a baseball back if you're on the opposing team and you don't want it. And then there's that event. I forget which game was, but the kid ended up throwing it back.

But the kid ended up hitting the player. And then the kid got kicked out of all MLB stadiums for like. his whole life. Yep. That's kind of, that's rookie of the year. Yeah. I just better not ever see anyone who

talk shit about what Tennessee did, like pray, like say it's cool when somebody storms the field. I better not see it. So Big T, I'm already calling it this weekend. He is on high alert. Like,

he's hoping and praying that like any other fan base, that Florida, that they have somebody throw a battery onto the field. Well, it happens the next morning. The Jags fans in London were throwing trash onto the field, not a peep out of Dan Wolkin or Pat 40. You know why?

because it doesn't benefit their agenda. It also might be the fact that it was a Jaguars game taking place at 9 a.m. in London. Okay, so now you're making excuses for people throwing trash. I'm saying it's a different culture over in England. That's a commonplace. They may have saw the Tennessee game and be like, ah, this is what the Americans do.

We got to do what they do. Yeah, that's a bad example. Yeah, that's your bad influence on our British friends. Well, is your beef just with those writers? I think that the perception of Tennessee as a university and fan base in the national media has a lot to do with much of the problems it has incurred in the last decade, yes. Can I be honest with you, Pig T, I follow college football pretty closely.

I know what some of the writers say about the University of Tennessee. I've never once thought to myself like, wow, Tennessee's fan base, they're known for being the bad boys, they're classless, like that's just something never. I think every single school believes that certain writers are out against them. It's not even just schools. You read what I said earlier. You heard what I read earlier, right? Yes.

Like they legitimately, Pat 40, Dan Wolkin, Pete Thammel, all these guys, like legitimately believe that. And most of it comes from the Shiano deal. That's where a lot of it stems from. And they're still mad about it. Why don't you do this, though? I'm going to get you like 30 seconds right now. Get it all off your chest.

And we're going to tag them, bro. We're going to tag all those writers. All right. And we're going to retweet it. And get it off your chest. Dan Wilkins, Pete Thammel, Pat 40. Dennis Dodd can go fuck himself too. Um, who else?

Those... What about Fine Bomb? No, Fine Bomb's fine. It's, it's, it's Yahoo! It's, um... The entire company. Yahoo Sports, yeah, they can all go fuck themselves. Where do these other guys for?

USA Today, USA Today can go fuck themselves. Okay. What about the athletic? Um, yeah. Oh, Stuart Mandel out. God, I really hope I never need a job at one of these places. Yeah, like all those guys, like they just, they legitimately, they hate Tennessee. I don't, I don't know why.

I don't understand why, but they do. In certain cases, I get the Shiano thing because Shiano's agent also works very closely with some of those names that you mentioned. And in circumstances like that, if they feel like one of their guys was wrong, then they leak certain information to the writers. And then the writers can develop an axe to grind against certain people at those institutions. but my bigger question for you is why do you care what some guy writes like types into his computer that lives you know hundreds of miles away from you because as much as you would like to think it doesn't matter and it does it absolutely matters it matters in the perception of the school with recruits it matters with the overall landscape of college football fans read that

shit and fans develop opinions of places and then you know recruits read that stuff also i they've they've tried to make it a big deal about all the recruits we had there seeing that I got bad news for anybody who thinks the 16-year-olds who saw what happened Saturday and think that's a bad thing. They thought it was fucking cool. So bad news if you think that's going to hurt Tennessee and recruiting, they saw one of the coolest environments in college football and then things went shitty for five minutes. Like, get over yourself. But sounds like you're pretty upset about all this. I am actually upset about it. Like it's, it's absurd that throwing some empty Mick Ultra cans onto the sideline for 10 minutes turned into what it did. I'm offended that

they were drinking Mickelope Ultra. That's the worst part of all. That's a bad take. That's a very no, that's a bad look for the University of Tennessee. That's a bad take. Big T's he actually said he narrowed it down. That's his favorite now is Micklow Ultra. No, we, we're Coors Light. Coors Light is the superior light beer. What color do the mountains turn on a can of Mick Ultra when they're cold? I think the can just looks cool from the start. Okay, so, oh, it doesn't even have mountains. They use bitch ass yeast. I can't attest to that. Soft yeast. And like GMO grain. that's fine as opposed to cores light which uses only the finest most masculine grain i'll tell you what i love i love knoxville tennessee and i was drinking cores light at the game

not mccalob it was an unbelievable it's my first ever c c experience oh really yeah so i've only been to penn state games because that's who i grew up liking but um and it runs in the family but man that was some some environment and i got the whole tyler baron thing on video and i was going insane and of course it gets called back yeah macrodosing athlete tyler baron that I do, I am mad about that. So thank you to everyone that was in Neeland Stadium. Am I pronouncing there? Nelan.

Neelan Stadium for standing up all the, all the listeners, all the macrodosians in the crowd. There were hundreds of thousands of them there. It looked like they got so mad because macrodosing athlete, Tyler Barron, clearly had that fumble six, and they were standing up for our guy on this podcast. So we do appreciate that. If there's one class of citizens that's more persecuted and oppressed

than University Tennessee fans, I would say it's macrodosing podcast listeners. Sick of the stigma around us. Shout out to the macrodosing listeners. It's so funny now. Every where I go, I run into someone. A couple of people at the bar where we're like huge fans of the podcast,

a guy named Dennis, bought me a couple of Coors Lights. Good guy. Shout out Dennis. Yep. And I had a great experience in Knoxville. Couple first for me. I went to Waffle House. You guys saw that.

First Waffle House experience. Amazing. Big T stepped up big time. He's like I was born for this moment. Avery texted our group chat Friday night at like 11 o'clock that he was at Waffle House and he said, what should I order the patty melt? And I said, fuck, no, I was born for this moment. I'll just read this off. And I told him what to order. Would you tell him? The All Star Special with Bacon and Hash Brown scattered, smothered, and covered.

Okay. I was very confused as to the scattered, smothered, and covered part, but it was great. Aaron, let me ask you from your perspective. Do you think, when you think of like all the different SEC schools, is there one fan base where you're like, yeah, those guys are pieces of shit. I hate them. No, I don't, I don't really look at it as like, like, because it's not so, when you think about, like, Philly, like, right, it's become like a culture of that. And so they kind of perform for it. So they're assholes on purpose rather than that's probably not, they probably not really

mean people. It's just like the culture of Philly when you go into Philly, like we're an asshole band, right? And so there's really no culture like that in the SEC from my memory. I think the weirdest fan base, when you probably have some experience running into, the Texas A&M fans are just, they're just bizarre human beings. Like, not necessarily like a malicious way. They're just very strange humans. I never, I never played against. Oh, no, we did play Texas in there. Well, I was, I was a redshirt freshman. But I didn't have any kind of interaction until I've never really, I've never even thought about it. But I did. I got called a nigger at, and at Georgia.

from one of the fans over there. And I was so, like, perplexed because I was like, you got a whole bunch of them on your team too, man. I'm like, what the fuck? I even said, I was like, you got them on your team too. What's the fuck? Georgia, let's see. I really liked

I liked the Calbell shit at Mississippi State. That was cool. I enjoyed that atmosphere. My favorite place to play, though, was Kentucky. I love that stadium. I don't know why, but I just loved that stadium, though. so dope to me. So Big T, who would you say now your big rivals are? Because I think we have to take Ole Miss off the list after that loss. Like in your own house, they came and beat you. Who are you

the biggest rivals? We're going to go Vanderbilt? Vandy would like you to think that. It's Bama, Florida, Georgia, and then Kentucky. Would Alabama say, yeah. Alabama, Tennessee, listen, like, I don't want to do this because, like, you all don't. Alabama, Tennessee is the most culturally important rivalry in the South. It's the reason the SEC has these done. mass divisions where we have to play them every year. And that's why they have the cross-divisional game. Like, Alabama, Tennessee is historically the most important rivalry in the SEC. Alabama, I want to repeat back to you what you just said.

That's why I said I didn't, because you don't understand. You don't watch college football. I do watch college football. Alabama, Tennessee is the most important cultural rivalry in the history of the South. Big T, Big T, Big T, Big T. I played in four Alabama Tennessee games. Mm-hmm. I play one of my homies played at Alabama right and later in the league is when we got to be cool

and once like Tennessee thinks it's a big rivalry right Alabama doesn't care about that shit they still smoke their cigars every year in the locker room bro I'm telling you bro I was like I don't know how the conversation got got a startup who was talking I was like yeah you know a big rivalry between my ear's coach is like no it's not and I'm like yeah it's like a huge every third Saturday, October, I was like, y'all don't gas that up. It was like, we don't really care about it like that. It's not. Well, of course, they're going to say that now when they're the best program in the country and we suck.

But when we were winning. This was in 2000. This was in like 2009. Yeah, but in the 90s when they couldn't buy a win against us, it was a big deal to them. So, like, if it was more competitive. And also I said it's only, I'm just letting you know, perspective of the players. Yes. They don't give a fuck of one.

That's a coach. That's like what a coach tells. like there was probably a Tennessee coach that created that rivalry to get his players to play harder whereas that the Alabama coach never sort of made that a thing no it's that they've played since like 1900 and well most people in the conference have uh that's that's not true I think it's like anyway anyway that's why I didn't around there yes Tennessee Alabama is a very important historical rivalry okay also one more first thing I did I had cookout for the first time people in

Tennessee need to stop acting like it was the greatest thing since sliced bread it's not that good now they're going to hate you it's not that good well so I don't what is it cookout what is cookout like it's fast food I bet they've got them in Texas it's very good cheap fast food

but see I don't think people say cookout is like amazing it's just that it's cheap as shit and open all the time I said that was good like did you go to guesses did you go to guesses but now we didn't have time and I was also supposed to to that place stock and barrel or whatever but it said it was closed i guess they weren't yeah i think brandon and them went yeah but anyways i don't know the cookout hype wasn't uh it didn't really live up to

it i thought the burger was good the shake was good like the fries sucked like just wasn't what it lived up to i guess since it's super cheap i guess not yeah you're gonna have some people telling you what your missed order was i think the corn dog bites is something people always talk about from cookout the bacon ranch rap was really good a lot of bacon for a dollar 85 all right yeah yeah Yeah, I think it's like it's a cheap place, but it's good for being so cheap. Yep. Nailen Stadium was like the cool. Probably, I've been to Super Bowls.

I've been to a lot of things. Like, that was probably the coolest thing. SEC football. There's really nothing like it, I guess. I reawoke something that was buried deep inside me this weekend. And it's a passion, a love that I had completely forgot about. And that's how cool the Blue Ridge Mountains are. The Blue Ridge Mountains are beautiful.

And I guess I grew up around them. And then when I went to school, I went to James Madison. The campus is like right in the Shenandoah Valley. There's these nice mountains all around you. You just kind of get numb to it because you see it all the time. And then I went back and I was like, this is actually like one of the most beautiful places in America. I didn't realize that I was going to miss certain mountains so much. But you guys have it's not the Blue Ridge in Knoxville.

Is it? It's just Appalachian. Smoky Mountains. Yeah. Smoky Mountains over there. Blue Ridge Mountains, top five mountain range. as far as I'm concerned that's going to be controversial

I might almost put them on my Mount Rushmore of mountain ranges it'd be Himalayans it would be I would put the rock Rushmore of mountains Yeah Yeah well I mean

Feel free to contribute I think it like You got to say Himalayan's first right Himalate uh If you have I'm not a big mountain guy I guess If you have the Blue Ridge Mountains I know you have to have the Rocky Mountains

Yeah Rocky Mountains I think right yeah Rocky Mountains They have a I mean there's a baseball team named after those that's probably Yeah they're super high there's always snow on them they're on the bottles of course light you got you got to give love to there's snow on most mountains though yeah not see the blue ridge don't really get that much snow because they're not they're not tall enough so they're always kind of like you know they've got

a lot of green on them what's the what's the cut off like when they it's not a like yeah make it a mountain you know how tall is that to be to be a mountain yeah what's it cut between hill and mountain i think it mountains have to be created by two plates hitting each other and creating mountains I think it has to do with tectonic plates whereas hills can just be

like erosion or some shit what's the biggest hill google that really yeah good question I think the Blue Ridge Mountains used to be higher than the Appalachians or excuse me

it used to be higher than the Himalayans so yeah the Cavanil way back in the day in near Potua Potua Oklahoma

it's the highest hill in the world because it's elevation of its highest point is 2,000 feet. So I do not think Oklahoma is on any tectonic... You said Kentucky.

Petua, is it Kentucky or... No, Petua, Oklahoma. Okay. P-O-T-E-A-U-K Kentucky? Maybe. Because that's a great plains. So there's no tectonic plates there, I think. Okay, well, yeah.

I think, well, but the thing with that is, I think the Alps might edge it off for number four. The Alps are solid. Euro mountains divide an entire continent. They separate Asia. Wait, hold on. It got declassified. It says, according to the local council commerce,

the highest hill in the world is Cavanil Hill, formerly Cavanil Mountain. Yeah. So it used to be a mountain, but then a mountain. It got downgraded. Wow. Like Plutoed.

That's tough. That's a tough relegation. I like that we're on the relegation system right now with mountains. And as the tectonic plate shift, you're going to have some hills that will eventually become mountains I wonder what the next mountain up is going to be

like baby baby mountains they're baby mountains okay so we're idiots there's no official difference between hills and mountains so that tectonic shit I just said

we're not idiots this is an important conversation I feel like an idiot because I thought it had to do tectonic plates we're not geologists I'll say that we're not idiots

no official difference so there's no difference between a hill and a mountain so I think when somebody dies when somebody dies on a hill it becomes a mountain if it's dangerous you know because a lot of hills are old like structures built like mounds yeah how the native americans used to have mounds burial mounds how did nobody else laugh at it no i how to know what you have it's fucking hilarious

oh my god you have to come up with some sort of designation you can't just otherwise the term mountain is going to get thrown around willy-nilly and we're going to be just calling everything a mountain so what did the term don't make a mountain out of a mold hill come from that's a good question one's big and one's very small but they're both the same shape but they can't but no there's no difference during a hill in the mountain you just said that there is we got to figure it out this is going to be burning they used to say it was a thousand feet mad dog can you look up I trust your research

on this more than I trust billy they should just make it I just everything I've said is true they should just make it that mountains are made by tectonic plates hitting each other because that's usually how all the mountain ranges are made well I think we can all agree on that but like there are some hills that are also hills because of how tectonic plates are moving you're you're saying are all hills because of oh no no no that was dumb billy billy's saying that if if you like stack up a bunch of shit as a human and put a bunch of dirt in a big mound then that's a hill but then once it's on like a grander scale where it's the earth moving that's i think mountains should only be on tectonic uh plate edges okay

they hit each other well i like how you want to make that differentiation for yourself but um it says on here what i googled there's a kind of conflicting things but all of this is what i'm seeing is that it's a elevation thing um and then also i because billy did you look at the national geographic society that says there's no difference between mountains and hills right yeah so they said it was a thousand feet yeah so it's an elevation thing and also i see something here year that said hills have a gradual rise in elevation while mountains have a steeper rise. So like how mountains kind of go from zero to 100, hills kind of have more of a steady up.

What about the mid-Atlantic range? Oh, yeah. In the mountains underwater. Yeah. I think the longest, the largest mountain chain in the world and it's underneath the ocean. So it's got it's 60,000. kilometers long so that's 10 times the width of Canada that's a long-ass mountain range yeah there's a where is this mid-atlantic range right in the middle of the atlantic ocean where all the

um it's up biz we got us a guest coming in the studio would you forget okay biz quick question yeah here here you mind talking to the mic take this mic real quick sure who's a loser okay what's the difference between a mountain and a hill well it's got to be like feet to some point right yeah it says here a thousand feet wow i would i would have guessed a lot lower than that lower i would have said like three or four hundred yeah but wow okay see you guys thanks for the input thank you biz that was a special guest paul bisonette from t and t sports you may know where's he's best friend paul missinette where are you where are you getting this from Maddo.

Do you want me to name my sources? I'll name my sources for you. Because I just don't, like, there's conflicting reports. And I want to know, is it like geologists? Like, because I feel like geologists would have a better definition. This is worldatlas.com, which seems somewhat reliable. There are a lot of ads, so I don't know. So according, so there was no official, so they used to say a thousand feet, but both the United States and the UK abandoned that distinction in the mid-20s.

century. Yeah. So I'm looking at National Geographic and... Sounds like the scientific community is a little split on this.

They do see... I also feel like they have... It sounds like they're not doing their fucking jobs. Yeah. What are they doing if they're not...

If they're not differentiating hills and mountains, the fuck are they doing? This is a fascinating topic to me. If we have any geologists out there, please, uh, hit it or any scientists

that understand it, topography, please, uh, add us and tell us the difference between the mountain and the hill. I would also like to know what the difference is between a lake and a sea. And now I know that...

A lake in a sea or an ocean in a sea? A lake in a sea because... So, for example, the Caspian Sea is a lake. It's completely... It's a lake. It's surrounded by land. It doesn't... Yeah.

It doesn't like drain into... It's brackish water. What? There's salt in it. There's some salt in it, yeah. But because it used to be connected to the broader ocean. It used to be an ocean. Right.

It used to be connected, yeah. But it's not now. So it's a saltwater lake. Yeah. Which turns into a sea. What about Lake Superior? Lake Superior is a massive, massive lake. It's freshwater.

It's a glacier. Yeah. There are glacier lakes. Wait, isn't a sea just an ocean? That's another good question. Okay, so I have, okay, hold on. Let's break this down. Is the Caspian Sea freshwater?

The difference between the sea and the lake I have right here is that a lake is enclosed on all sides by land and does not connect to a larger water body like an ocean, while a sea connects to an ocean. Right. So the Caspian Sea doesn't. I'm hereby relegating Caspian Sea to the Caspian Lake. So it's in terms of if we're doing a hierarchy, oceans are on the top and then it sees and then it's lakes.

Yep. So like Mediterranean Sea is massive, but it connects into the Atlantic Ocean. Yeah. Yeah, I get that. That's why I don't get the Caspian Sea. So I think it's a fraud sea. The Caspian Sea is the world's largest lake technically. Right.

Right. But when people talk lakes, they're usually referring to fresh water lakes. So is the Caspian Sea a saltwater lake? What about the Great Salt Lake? That's a lake. No, it's a salt flat. It's a lake, though. I don't think there's an actual lake. It's literally called the Great Salt Lake. Wait, but I think it's just a dried up salt plain. That's just a bunch of salt so they call it a lake. Wait, is there actual salt.

No, the Great Soil Lake is the largest salt water lake in the Western Hemisphere and the eighth largest terminal lake in the world. It lies in the northern part of the U.S. state of Utah. But terminal lake means not a lake anymore. There is water in the Great Salt Lake. Do you think that the Great Salt Lake is just like a giant pile of salt? I thought it was just... In Utah, that's a thing. Okay.

So... No, wait, wait. I want to find out what Billy says it. You thought it was just like a big, like a massive deposit of salt? I thought it was a massive salt flat, but now I'm learning that there is... There's water. There's not a lot of water, but there's water. People can float in it because the water is so salinated.

It's like the dead sea. So that's like where those flamingos live. What? There are flamingos in Utah? There's flamingos in a very similar lake in Africa that's just so fucking salty. Nicklead with that. We were talking about a lake in Utah. Okay.

So I know I'm looking at the salt lake. I knew that there's a bunch of salt flats in Utah. In Utah. I did not know that there was that much water. because if you look at the above angle of it It looks pretty dried out, I will say Yeah, it's dried as fuck I think

I think there's just a differentiation The Great Salt Lake is a lake And then there's salt flats And that's it Right okay So flat so do look really cool Okay I'm looking at the Great Salt Lake From above

It looks pretty dried out There's no there's still a ton of water there Like it's one of the biggest lakes In the United States Could it be I bet there's ponds bigger than that lake Okay so now we're It's Lake linear bigger than that lake Now we're talking lakes versus ponds.

No, the Great Salt Lake is massive. It's way bigger than the Lakelander. When does a pond become a lake? Okay. Ponds, I think, are all man-made. No, no. Really? Hand-up, I didn't know shit about the Salt Lake, okay?

Okay, yes. I mean, Billy, all you had to do is know the name of it, and you would have known that, one, it's big, two, it has salt in it, and three, it's a lake. Whenever I hear about the Salt Lake, all I hear about is these fucking massive salt flats. No one ever talks about the water. Those are salt flats. Because they're salt flats. They're not lakes.

This is, what are the three words in the name of the great salt lake? Salt, okay. It's great. It's salt and it's a lake. It's pretty self-explanatory. You know, some things aren't what they've seen. It's like broke back mountain. Like a panda.

You get the understanding what it is. Like a red panda bear is not a fucking panda bear. That's true. The difference between a pond and a lake is that. lakes are normally much deeper than ponds and have a larger surface area. All the water in a pond is in the photic zone, meaning ponds, are shallow enough to allow sunlight to reach the bottom. Lakes have aphotic or aphotic zones, which are deep areas of water that receive no sunlight preventing plants from growing. I'm glad someone's doing their job. Well, how about

this? Sorting that out. You're welcome. Not the geologist. Us. It looks like, unless I'm reading this incorrectly here, the biggest lake that's contained only in the United States, only in our borders, is Lake Michigan. Yeah. The second biggest lake is the Great Salt Lake. Okay, so it's the second biggest lake owned by America. Completely. Completely. Yeah, because then you have like Lake Superior, which is bigger, but there's a little bit of Canada. Lake Erie's also in Canada, too. My favorite Great Lake. What happens if you're, if you're like, I don't know, committing a crime out in the middle of Lake Superior There's a

There's a border Yeah Which side would you rather commit the crime on? The Canadian side or the American side? I feel like Canada Canadian prison has to be really nice Yeah dude like remember when they Remember when um

I'm going to blank on it The guy who got imprisoned in Sweden Was it ASap Rocky? Yep When Aesop Rocky went to prison in Sweden Like Swedish prisons are the nicest prisons I've ever seen Yeah he was just like

basically in a hotel. That sounds pretty cool. And he's ASAP Rocky, so he wasn't in, like, bad, like, he was in rich people prison. I don't think anybody is in bad prison in Sweden. Also, what are you doing in Sweden? Like, that's that bad. Thank you, President Trump for getting ASAP Rocky released.

Thank you. Thank you. Aaron, would you care to comment? Yeah. Everything that nigga did for black people was performative, bro. It was funny when he was. when he was actually, like, tweeting out, like, release ASAP, free ASAP. Free ASAP.

Like, someone, somebody had, somebody just came into his office and was like, hey, there's this rapper that's arrested in Sweden. He's like, okay, I'm on it. I cared very deeply about ASAP Rocky. Well, he probably, I mean, but the guy. Yeah. He got him out. I'm just saying, like, you know, like, really insecure people, you can make them do stuff

easier like chug beers or like get them to do the stuff yeah because it wouldn't be accepted people didn't understand how much of a factor that had on trump like he could have he pulled the strings if you made a push them hard though yeah yeah he did that should um le angelo ball too yeah wasn't that what weren't they stealing like shoes or something

yeah they were in china like yeah i remember they were in china but i just i wish that we had gotten to have some sort of televised meet and greet or our debate between lavar ball and donald trump that shit would be must see tv yeah oh my god i'd pay to watch that i would too i'd pay 50 bucks to watch that i'd rather watch that than any logan paul fight unfortunately i think they agree start agreeing on everything though really they just like they just gas each other up yeah you know how it's like the political saying it's like two sides of the horseshoe i don't think that lavar ball is a particular guy. I think he's just like... But do you think he would be liberal?

I don't know. I don't know. Maybe not. I think he's in his own class. I'm actually glad that he took, LeVar took some steps back. Yeah, me too. And now his sons can actually, it's about them playing basketball. Mm-hmm. Somebody had a word with him. Yeah. I think maybe, maybe LeBron James people talk to him and they were like, hey, if your son's going to be on the team with LeBron, he is going to, you're going to keep your mouth shut. And LeVar was like, yes. Oh, bro, you know, talking about the the Appalachian Mountains do you hear that they

saw through the FBI this is how the Brian Laundry Manhunt's going the FBI straighted up ambushed just a random bald hiker who looked kind of like Brian Laundry

and was like yo dude are you Brian Laundry just guns of blazing rolled up on him and it just wasn't him just wasn't him poor guy what if it was Brian Laundering

he was like nope not me no they got pictures of him wasn't Brian Laundry So where is Brian Laundee right now? I don't know, but dog is off the case. No, that's what dog wants him to believe. He's going to let now's the time when he's going to slip up because he thinks he's safe. Art of War, right?

Yeah. Let the enemy think that they are safe when they are not, Sun Su. I just made that up, but I'm pretty sure that's an actual quote from your art of war. That's what Tennessee is trying to do to Alabama. That's right. Yeah, they're playing the long game. What do you think about that? They think it's not a rivalry, but it is.

Yep. Big Tee? Sure. Listen, listen, the last five years, we've had a 0% chance of winning that game. I think we have a 10% chance this year. 10%. Yeah. What's the spread?

So I believe it's 29, but that's if Hinden doesn't play. If he plays, that's going to drop. Okay. How'd Hinden play? Is it next week, isn't it? It's Thursday. Yeah, it's this week. Yeah, it's this week.

He played very well until he got hurt with, you know, on the last drive, but played a great game. All right. Well, once again, if you're a geologist, let us know. We need to know what the difference between a lake and or why the Caspian Sea is not a lake. We need to know what is a lake. What is the lake? We need to know what a mountain is and what a hill is. Anything else?

Sorry to give all you geologists out there homework. You probably like that shit anyways. You do science all day. It's your passion. But you guys want to, you want to jump right in? You want to get into the real topic of today's show? An hour later, you're going to jump right in? We're actually doing pretty well today in terms of timing.

Great pace right now. We're talking glitches in the Matrix today. Glitches in the Matrix. If you're not familiar with a glitch in the Matrix is, so a lot of people put forth the idea that we live in a simulation right now, and since it's a computer code that's been written and refined by maybe civilizations thousands of years from now that have gone back in time and they're able to create these simulations using their powerful computers,

sometimes just small little errors in the code things that don't seem right and you see like a lot of people tweet out glitch in the matrix when they get on a train and there's like five people that are all wearing the exact same shirt and pants all sitting next to each other kind of reminds you of if you've ever played a video game

from like the early 2000s and you know they don't have all the memory necessary to animate like every fan that's in the stands so like they all kind of look the same or there'll be like a small little point in time in the game. Maybe it happens in war zone all the time. Yeah. When, you know, there's like a wall that just disappears.

The white run guards from Skyrim that all say, I used to be an adventure like you until I took an arrow to the knee. Yes, like those. They all say the same thing. They say the same thing. They look the same way. Say the same thing. So much like we're designing video games right now and the computers that we use to run them don't

have enough memory or a fast enough processor, they have to cut some corn. corners and there are small little glitches in there. Some people think that we're still living that we're currently living in a simulation. And so those little tiny glitches appear here and there in our day-to-day lives. And so, yeah, that's what we're going to be talking about today. And we've talked about the simulation theory before. I forget where we all stood on that of whether or not we live in a simulation. This is one of those things that happened on my hiatus. Yeah. Simulation theory. So, Billy, do you think that we live in a simulation? Well, I like the math aspect of it but the math aspect of it conflicts with my worldview okay so you like you like

the uh like foundation behind yeah and logically it makes sense but it also freaks you out too much can we can we talk about what it is exactly this is what i think it is yeah so basically we've seen the place we've gotten to in technology 2021 we have multiple videos video games, like multiple examples of simulations of worlds put together by humans and by computers. And then in some point in the next, in the future, we can get to the point where artificial intelligence is going to start creating more of these simulations in order to determine outcomes or determine, you know, something in our reality, but in that simulated reality, like weather.

They might be running simulations of weather to determine what's most likely going to happen. And because of that, you have different realities that mimic our reality and then in those realities, they're also mimicking realities because if they're mimicking our reality,

which is at the point to create more realities. Yes. So sort of like a looking at two mirrors type thing. Yeah, you're talking, you're getting towards a singularity right now. Right. Inception. Yeah, it's saying that

at some point our computing power is going to be so strong that we'll be able to create AI that's so powerful and advanced that it becomes like it loses all of its sense of being a self-aware or it's a it doesn't know that it's fake so you could be living right now you could be a simulation you could be a character in a video game or in a simulation but because the tools that they use to create the software are so powerful you don't even know yeah you think that you're just a real actual human being. So I think, but the math is that

there's so many iterations of the simulation, like there's so many different video game simulations that it's less likely that we are the original. Right. And my problem with that is, and I'll probably get canceled for this 300 years

when AI is like a thing, but I think that there's something special about organic beings that can never be replicated and thus cannot differentiate reality from some sort of simulation you literally think that we're built different yeah i just believe whatever little electric spark that goes through our brains and our life and our nature and cause the big bang like simulations can never capture that they're like cover bands yeah you can't capture that spark i i'm with you i think billy might be on to something here so

I think that's just he's specious He's just Yeah I'm a hundred I'm organist I'm organist So if honestly Have you seen Have you seen Star Trek?

Yeah Have you seen the The next generation No I know Star Trek I have not Okay so you know You know data

Is he like a robot guy Yeah He's an android Yeah So like And they They encounter The Enterprise

Encounter something called the Borg and the Borg is like this collective and like it's like one brain it's like one mine and they're they're they're they're far more like they're in their superior to the they're always running like the enterprise is always running from them because they can never beat them because they're they're they've interwoven with a computer and so like they're their beings but like they're also computers they're just more efficient computers are more efficient So I think you're just a little specious, you're biased. And the proof is the shit that we do to constantly fuck the earth up and constantly kill each other all the time.

Like, it's just very inefficient we are. But we're just, we're smart and we're dumb at the same time. Like how crazy it will be they look back like a thousand years and they're like, yeah, that guy was more anti-robot than his compatriots of his time period. So he should be canceled. Yeah. Yeah. That might very... Carbonist.

I'm carbonist. It's a problem, Billy. Yeah. I just always take the mindset that if in the future, the robots find out that I tried to stop the robots from happening, then they'll travel back in time and kill me. So I just say, bring on the robots. I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords.

Yeah. And they would have probably gotten to me before this podcast gets out in order to make sure. it never goes out and like spreads that sentiment to get more anti-robot people or you are a robot and you know what you're doing right now and you're trying to throw everybody off the scent sty up a little sci-op you kind of do have a little robotic glitch every now and then yeah yeah he does yeah exactly he skips hella stiff hell of stiff like like a cd has a scratch on it occasionally it's a pretty good CD but sometimes it gets stuck on that on not knowing what the great salt lake is

we need to see Billy bleed man I don't know I bleed yeah he bleeds I've seen Billy bleed before pronunciation yeah I'm really not making good case for myself but yeah so yeah

that's what the whole glitch in the matrix thing is it's like an error in the code and people when they see weird shit whether it's deja vu that's like one example of when people think there's a glitch in the matrix have you guys ever had

deja vu because when it happens to you and it's extremely vivid, it feels like you're losing your mind. And it feels very real. There's a bunch of different explanations on what can cause it. But I'm curious to know if any of you guys have had it. I have it all the time. You know, really interesting fact is when you get concussions or you get hit in the hair really bad, you get deja vu. Like, so like there's been, I don't know how many times I've been on a football field and where I'll get hit in the head and the next 30 seconds,

May I say 15. 15 seconds. I'm so familiar with whatever's going on. Like everything I know exactly what's about to happen. It's weird as fuck. I've heard that a thousand times. And I've actually also experienced it. Yeah, where you've like seen everything that's happening before.

Or you know, like, you're having a conversation with someone and you like know what they're going to say next. And then they say it while you're thinking about you knowing what they're going to say next. Like exactly, I knew that was going to happen, but I couldn't place it. Okay. that sounds like it would freak me out you hold on you've never had you've never had deja vu no I'm not in a concussion sense like I've had a couple concussions before but I never experienced deja vu while I was I was going through him I think it's just like just regularly yeah I've had I've had deja vu before for sure I remember a very vivid time I was out in

California traveling with with my family back when I was a little kid like eight years old and I walked into a room and I saw a guy who was wearing a cowboy hat he had a mustache and he said something to me and i was like he i think he said something like how we doing today partner and i was like doing pretty good and then about two minutes later he had left the room another guy comes in that is wearing a cowboy hat and a mustache but looks almost identical and says how we doing today partner to me and i it freaked me out and when i told my mom about i was like there are two guys that just came up to me and said hi said the same thing.

They looked exactly the same. Like I was, I was like a little bit scared when it was going on. And then eventually, like, we just kind of forgot about it because it's not that big of a deal. She probably thought I was lying because I was an eight-year-old.

But, yeah, vividly. I remember it still to this day when it happened. I definitely, yeah. That sounds like Cap. Yeah, I reported it at the time, Aaron. I found the nearest adult and I went to them and I informed them about what happened. But it freaked me out.

And so it's a really small thing. I mean, occasionally, I think we all get experiences where we'll, like, walk into a room and, you know, we get that feeling like we've been in there before, like we've seen that before. And I kind of had that, I had that this weekend when I was at JMU, I went back and I was driving down some of the same streets that I had driven down. But I hadn't seen in, like, when was that, 2007? So I hadn't been in that location for 14 years. But when you make that turn and you go down that street again, that you've done hundreds of times. thousands of times, it triggers something in your brain. And it freaks you out for a second.

You're like, holy shit. And for me, actually, it was like, you ever do this? You ever go back to a place you haven't been in a while and think, man, I thought everything, like everything looks so much smaller than I remember it being. That's what it was like for me. Like all the houses look small, all the streets look small. And I remembered it being like way, way bigger for some reason. I don't know.

Maybe I've grown. Well, I haven't really grown since that. That happened to me, like, when I'd come back to school. after like the summer yeah and i would have actually grown and i was like whoa like the tables are lower yeah i never had that problem yeah like i can touch the ceiling now yeah that must be so cool you can you just walk around reach up and touch the ceiling no like you know you play the game where you like jump and try to hit the exit sign like there was one in this hallway i could never get in like eighth grade and then like ninth grade i could get it then you got it and felt like a king yeah yeah

What about basketball hoops, too? Basketball hoop when you could get rim. First time being in the gym after, like, football season. First time hitting net. I still remember that. First time I could get net. Can you touch a rim? Have you ever touched a rim?

I've touched rim before. I probably can't do it anymore. There's a video. That was, Arian, that was a cap face. That was cap face. And look, man, look. You said you've touched the room before and just moved on to whatever you was about to say. Hell no.

that's messed up because I have video evidence show it that I'm I'm scared right actually I've seen but I'm fair yeah it was a 10 foot rim so that's what I don't know but I have seen a video of him touch a rim I can't attest to the rim was raised to the highest level it could get in this person's driveway okay well then I ain't some people say

it was nine and a half feet I don't know about all that I'm pretty sure it was a 10 foot rim but I have got no I've you know what one time this was a glitch in the matrix moment for me I still remember like it was yesterday. It was the year was 2005. I was playing pickup basketball at a court off Stewart Road in Rested Virginia. And just in between runs, I just ran up to the hoop, jumped off two feet, reached up, grabbed the rim with both hands, hung on the rim, looked around.

And I was like, what the fuck? How did I get up here? It was like it was a perfect jump. I've never jumped that high in my life before. I don't believe that story because he said two. Two feet. No, I jumped off two feet. And then my friends were like, yo, how did you get up there? And I was like, I honestly have no idea. How long did you hang on there? For a good like seven seconds, just savored it. Two hands. I could, I could have dunked a medicine ball. So I think that was a glitch in the matrix, probably. That's what I'm saying. That was a glitch in the matrix. Because I tried to do it again. A couple minutes later, couldn't do it. Couldn't even get rim the second time I tried to jump. But that's why I don't buy it. I don't buy this story. It happened. If you wouldn't have said two feet, I might have believed you. It happened. I'm sorry. It was the best jump of my life.

Bro, you don't go from like never touching rim to grabbing it with two hands off of two feet. You ever hear the story? And never touching rim ever again? You ever hear the stories

about like the old ladies that can lift up trucks when they're on top of a burning family? They get superhuman strength for a second. Whatever happened in that moment if it was a glitch in the matrix or if it was just like the planets aligned perfectly,

I had weedies for breakfast, whatever it was. in that moment I jumped and I double-fisted the rim I hung on there People bring that up all the time Have you ever heard of an actual example of that No I've just heard people say that

You're right I've never heard of it actually happen So I think there's a hundred percent power of adrenaline Like we were talking to Usain Bolt On part of my tape the other day And he said that in a training He never broke like 9-9 Or like 98

And then he just runs a 9.58 at the Olympics Is that for real? Yeah he said that broke nine nine in training yeah it's it's all in competition that's fucking crazy like i didn't i never was good at track like in like what what's area did you run track and did you yeah yeah were your competition numbers similar to well i i ran in high school and i i didn't run to run fast i just ran to stay in shape yeah and so it was more like track meets more track meets let me tell you about track meets track meets are like a party low key man yeah it's like everybody

from every school and it's like getting with all the female. This is a really fun time. But, um, nah, I think my, my, my, my,

my, my fastest run was like a 10, eight, I think it's like 10, eight, which is, yeah, it's moving,

but it's like, not nowhere near, like, but like, that's surprised me because he, he, he, he was,

he could, it always looked like he could, like he could just cruise to it, to a, to a, you know, a sub nine. And so it's like, to hear he never broke nine.

That's crazy. Like, my brother ran track in college. I'm going to tell him that and see if he's like, that shouldn't blow his mind. I mean, the competitive numbers, unless you're competing against other people in your, on your team, like simulated races. But I think if you're just one-on-one, maybe I don't know. It makes sense, but it's just that's fascinating. Like, 9-9 is fascinating to me.

I definitely believe in that jump in ability because also in that moment, like. Not from, not from PFT, though. Not from PFT, though. You guys, it's sad to see you turn into haters like this. Really sad. I am a basketball PFT denier. Listen, it happened one time. It'll probably never happen again.

But no, I will guarantee. I will guarantee it will never happen again. Wait, I have gotten a rim before. That's unquestioned. I've gotten rim on several occasions, but never in my life have I been able to jump so high that both my palms get above the rim and I'm able to hang on it. And it was a legit 10 foot hoop too. I actually went back there and I just looked at it and I was like I was up there.

I can't believe that. I believe that a mother, I mean, that people have been able to lift objects beyond their beyond their, like normal strength. Yeah, adrenaline and your fight or flight response absolutely gives you more strength than usual for sure. I'm trying to find this video right now so I can shove it in your face. And you'll have to acknowledge that, yes, I did, I have it in me. because there's another video from this is the one where

the hoop it's debatable it's somewhere in between nine and a half and ten feet tall but you will have to admit once you see me get well above that rim that like yes it's possible

I have it in me somewhere where I can do this what about Billy can you dunk so okay so I was able to dunk junior year of high school because that was the last time I played basketball a ton then senior year

I started after football season and I was playing college football so I started eating like a motherfucker putting on weight and I was just dirty bulking because I for some reason thought the more mass I could put on like it would help me more

and just just really got into like very strong and you know like was good at footwork but like that bounce

sort of went away and I haven't recaptured that but I did I wasn't a good dunker but I'd be able to get up there put it in probably would miss in a game but if I'm like

oh can you dunk yeah watch this two dribbles run up dunk got it I'm not that bouncy I believe I believe really could dunk at one point though yeah

I was like 180 pounds right yeah can you still dunk can you still dunk right now probably not you give me like two three weeks yeah two three weeks you get yourself back in the shape yeah i'm i'm kind of pleasure right now i haven't done anything in a long time but like two weeks i trimmed that shit up i'll be yamming on them that's one of the most

satisfying sports things to ever happen though so like i've scored many touchdowns i've never scored a soccer goal. I've hit a home run. The most satisfying thing I've ever done is dunking on somebody in the sports. It's the most satisfying thing. Oh my, it feels so good. Yeah? How tall are you? Yeah. 6-1.

Okay. So, but you've never scored a soccer goal? No, I never scored a soccer goal, so I can't. We can make you, we can, we can arrange that. I feel like that's the easiest one to do, like all you need to do is just play one game of pickup soccer. I've never even played a pickup game of soccer.

You could still score. I'm confident in that. It might feel good, but I was not going to feel as good dunking somebody. I don't think, bro. Wait, what about hitting a home run? That felt really good, actually. That felt really good.

Goal line running someone over. I've done that. It's cool. It's cool. To me, it's better like deadlegging somebody. That's way better. What's the coolest thing you did playing football? Either professionally, college, high school, whatever.

made $40 million I knew I knew that's what you're going to say I mean my deed it was pretty sweet not going to lie I mean you did also have a couple above average catches I just want to give credit where credits do

did you know PFT that I happened to have 600 yards receiving one year in the NFL and I ran no fucking route that was all dump downs. I did not know that. Do you just know your stats off the top of your head? Yeah.

Career rushing yards go. Oh, I don't know. I'm like that. I know, I know like season by the easiest one. I'm not. That would that would have me mean I looked at my stats after I retired. Okay.

What was your highest total in a year? 1,600. It was like 1,600 and 16 yards. Yep, it was 16, 16, and 2010 led the league. Yeah. yeah yeah 2200 from scrimmage that so that was also the the receiving year i guess yeah yeah and they never never used me out of oh you had 600 yards receiving twice 10 and this is another glitch in the matrix moment i'm dealing with right now because i can't find the

video i don't think it happened though i'm just to be honest so if we want to get into the mandela effect which is one of the most commonly referenced glitches in the matrix um Honestly, the Mandela effect was kind of ruined, in my opinion, because the movie Invictus came out. Okay. That's when everyone corrected their worldview on Nelson Mandela. So in 2010, there was a shared false memory phenomenon that was dubbed the Mandela effect by self-described paranormal consultant Fiona Broom, who I tried to get on the show. She hasn't contacted back. but it was a very small internet community that really blossomed because more and more people

were like, wait, I also thought that Nelson Mandela died in prison in the 1980s after he was imprisoned by apartheid groups in the apartheid government in South Africa. When really he got out of prison, ended up being president, and sort of led the country till I don't know when he left office but and lived out the rest of his life. So it turns out a bunch of people thought he died back in 2010. But the thing is about

the whole thing is that when Invictus came out that Matt Damon rugby movie it totally changed the national conscience on Nelson Mandela thus like oh no Nelson Mandela was still alive because he was president

during Invictus because remember Morgan Freeman played Nelson Mandela and everyone was like oh yeah Morgan Freeman and played him when he was president and he gave you know he changed the spring box you know he kept the spring box but changed the flag and changed up the whole government so the Nelson man the Mandela effect I think was sort of disproved how the national conscience can be correct corrected by like a national like an event do you think that there's like also an element of all the old people that were in South Africa that lived through all the racist times there in apartheid that they that was like

their last grasp at like not believing that Nelson Mandela was actually the president of South Africa it was like the last bit of coping mechanism that they had where it's just like no it's no it's a glitch in the matrix it never actually happened like once you run out of ways to deal with reality you can just lead to that one but is this one that was like more worldwide I don't think the mandela effect was very widespread in south africa i think it was a purely american phenomenon hmm okay but i think the the false recognition phenomena is quite real and we can get into a variety of different um the mandela effect one is one that like i never occurred to me that nelson mandela was not the president of south africa and i i only remember like limited examples of uh like him actually

serving. And also when he died. Yeah, but also I remember him being around. I know that he's not dead. I have a lot of memories of watching him on TV. And he was like very much a public figure when I was a kid. So I know that he, he didn't die. That was one that always like confused me because I don't think I've ever met anyone that is an active Nelson Mandela, like somebody that believes in that effect personally. The thing is actually, I'm wrong. The Mandela effect actually only emerged after Invictus came out. So no one actually thought that the Mandela Effect happened

until Invictus came out and everyone was like, oh wait, I thought he died. Oh, really? Yeah. So that spurred it. Yeah, so that spurred it. So there was something weird in that movie. Yeah, well, it was just the first thing to remind everyone that he was alive. Or the first thing that reminded people

that he did go to prison at one point. Yeah. But I wonder if any of those anti-apartheid leaders died in prison They might have And by the way I just sent the picture

of me getting REM to the group chat So if you want to take a look at that I'm definitely about to look at this right now Yeah Let me know what you think Because that to me is pretty convincing And that was not a glitch in matrix

Not 10 feet How do you know that? I'm just looking at it But I will give you this Your calf muscles are way more defined than I thought they were. Thank you. I appreciate that.

That's really the only good part of my body. It really is. From the knees down. I rescind. I rescind. It looks like you probably grabbed the room. Thank you. Thank you.

Now, to be fair, I'll be honest, because you can see where the basket is planted into the ground next to the patio. I think that there is about four inches that drops off from the patio to where you see the stanchion from the basketball. hoop go into the ground but also to be fair i think i got i think i i had about four inches to spare so i could have i could have nicked the rim i could have tipped the rim on a legit 10 foot hoop i can't do it now though in fact now i'm at the point my life where every time i jump i just assume that my achilles tendon is going to rupture just something that i i live with on a daily basis um but yeah mandela thing i don't know anyone that actually experienced it erin did you ever

experience you ever have ever have any of these uh like incorrect recollections i i looked into this a while ago back in my um when i retired i just went like on a youtube fucking purge for like a year and i was just like super into everything so i got like that's how i got into like flat earth and shit um just went on a purge and i ran into the mandela effect and um i think it's just a case of like a whole bunch of people with bad memory And we all agree that we have bad memory. I never had one personally. The only one, I guess that I can remember.

Yeah, I guess I have one had one then. The Bernstein Bears. Yep. That one was like, okay, yeah. But I didn't think of it like, because like people think that there's like split realities from this Mandela effect, right? So people think that it was actually away and then the reality has changed. like they think they think it's that rather than thinking that they just fucked up um go ahead

because sometimes i feel there have been mandela effects for that when people think there's two different simulations that we're living in where there's merchandising and physical tangible evidence of the one that people actually thought and the the real one i would where's give me an example like there was actual evidence so for the one that the one A lot of it, a lot of this came, part, came to be in the time of the internet. So a lot of it is fake. There's a lot of fake stuff. Yeah.

Well, what about this? I'm going to say it. What about this one? What? Go off. Well, like the Bernstein Bears, there's like books that people have. And again, I guess they could be fake and it's the Internet. But I like to believe that they're real.

And it's like the Berenstein Bears. Hold on. I'm going to look it up real quick. Books, Mandela Effect. That there's both spelling. So there's Barrens. and then there's Bernstein and there's there's two books and both have different spellings and they're and they're and they're actually it's what would impress me is if the publishers if

they read out to like the publishers and be like did you guys publish any like anybody can make a make a cover for the like I don't trust anything like that but like reaching out to like the publishers and saying like what was it and what did you guys publish and they would easily they could dispel it very easily well of course they're going to dispel it they if if people in in the actually it would it would benefit them to not it would benefit them to fuck with people actually could it get more people talking about it and selling their books but don't you think the mega rich like what's the penguin books is that a big book book publisher or something like that random house random house don't you think those people would be high up

enough and rich enough in the government not in the government but in ultra ultra rich communities that they would have an inside scoop on what's going on like I just started watching Succession so I'm kind of on this like ultra rich

spin I feel like the ultra rich people that started random publishing house or all of those they're rich enough to where they can have an end and be like oh yeah shh

it's there is a matrix so then they're not going to talk what's their end goal uh to keep us quiet we're okay we start with Bernstein Bear books It's like they made a little mistake. It's not that they're trying to fuck with us.

It's like, oh, fuck, we made a mistake. Now we have to cover it up somehow. Yeah, it's like the dominoes. It's like the very first domino is Berenstein-Barre's book. And then the last one is like complete and utter total slavery. Gradually and then suddenly. Wait, but. That's how it happens.

Look around this country right now. Talk to them, big teeth. It happens gradually. and then suddenly. What's the name of that peanut butter starts with the J? Jiff. Jiff. Giff.

Okay, well, I was trying to see if anyone would say jiffy. No, yeah. I've seen that one. That's the one. Literally all of these that I saw are just people like you just don't know things. They're like, oh, did you think that it was, that Fruit Loops was spelled, F-R-U-I-T? Like, no, it's not spelled. No, never.

But like, but that comes back. It's just people who don't know things. It's false memory. For example, a lot of people who think that Jiff is really Jiffy, they're thinking of Jiffy loop. Or Jiffy Pop. Yeah. Well, there is Skippy peanut butter. Yeah, Jack, me and Big T were actually talking to Jack McCarthy today.

And we were talking about our episode. And I said nobody thinks it's jiffy. And he was, I thought it was. And he was thinking of Skippy. Yeah. Yeah. So I think it's a combination of Jiffy, Skippy, Jiff. Also, a lot of these things where they're talking about.

stuff that you remember incorrectly from your childhood maybe it's because you were like four years old and you don't remember everything perfectly from when you were four for example that also may be true curious george never had a tail I always thought curious George had a tail that blew my mind when I found out that he didn't but is there what like where's the line between like oh I thought he had a tail and like

oh my god I this is something I knew my whole life and that's but think about we think Well, think about, I think, I think, not because you don't know, Billy, but like, if you look at stuff, like, it's always something small, right? Like, we misremember the letters of a book or the letter on a peanut butter. It's never anything big, like, fan, there used to be two sons. I have, I have proof. It's never, and it's directly correlated to us having not good memory. Like, we're not, we don't, we don't have good memories.

Yeah, and I think a lot of people can have the same incorrect memories. It's not unheard of. Although I will say that the fruit of the loom logo Absolutely used to have a cornucopia in it And it doesn't If you look at it right now, it's just a bunch of fruit Well, the thing is, I think Hannafords has the cornucopia Well, I don't even know what Hannafords is

Hannafords is a... I don't know what a cornucopia is It's the horn of plenty It's like any time you see a Thanksgiving decoration I got it It's got that thing. No one really uses I don't remember fruit of the loom

having that in that fruit Or in the Hunger Games, cornucopia. No one really remembers... I remember grapes. Yeah. I just remember all those dudes dressed up as fruit. Yeah.

I remember grapes. I don't, and I don't never remember a cornucopia of being in there. People don't use cornucopies anymore. I'd like to see those brought back. The only time you see them is when they're centerpieces.

Well, not this year. Not allowed to gather with your family for Thanksgiving. That's, yeah. That's true. That's true. God damn Biden.

Fucking Biden, bro. Fouchy. Oh, it's Fauci. fucking Fauci. Did Fauci actually say, like... They asked him a couple weeks ago if families would be able to gather for Christmas. He said it's too early to tell.

So I got bad news, buddy. I was with my family for Christmas last year. I don't think Fauci is actually... Any of them niggas get COVID? Any of them niggas get COVID? Nope. I actually don't think that like Fauci said... Yeah, I don't like Fauci actually said

like you're not allowed to gather with your family. The CDC did last year. I know they did for Thanksgiving. Yeah. That was last... That was last year. or when niggas was dying at a higher rate? Yeah, but Fauci said two weeks ago

that it's too early to tell if we can gather for Christmas. But what are the real numbers? Are we getting more, let's not get into this. RIP, Colin Powell. This is what this podcast is for. Yes, wholly vaccinated colon pal, may he rest in peace. Well, hey, don't, you don't need to do that because he can't get an autoimmune cancer. Very sad.

Really devastating a great American, may he rest in peace. You were at Big T, you were so, I disagree wholeheartedly. Big T was so happy to find out. that Colin Powell was vaccinated. That's disgusting. Yes. That's disgusting. That's a fact.

I can tell from the sound of your voice. You were pumped. When you saw the news that Colin Powell was double vaccinated and still died, you were like, fuck yeah. No, that's sickening. No. Great American man, may he rest in peace. He was a war mark.

This nigga killed hundreds of thousands of people. I don't think that's necessarily true. Another, I mean. Another Mandela. He literally said, like, we need to go to war in Iraq. we should do this. I think that he was a very he was a good role model

for a lot of people. I think he was a good individual and a lot of the stuff they did. I think he lived a life that a lot of Americans could and should aspire to. Yes, in a way, up until starting the Iraq War, I think that like if you want to do what Colin Powell did, up until

history's complicated. Up until that fall of 2002, I think that that's a fair thing to say. So, history's complicated. You would not be saying that if it was your family that was murdered there's no way you'd say that history is complicated whose family was

murdered the hundreds of thousands of Iraqi citizens okay well yes if my family was killed in a war I would probably I mean I'm not pro an unjustified war you know what if we're gonna get you know China's got a new fucking

rocket that could bomb like can we like start like getting together as a country and being like hey dude like they just took a fucking rocket went all around the earth and put a fucking bomb down like tested rocket like they wait walk me through what this is because right now you just yeah i'm i'm i'm in favor of preemptively striking china is that what it sounds to me hey listen no i'm saying we should get together as a country like yo china just took like china test new space we don't want the warning shot to be a mushroom cloud right guys?

No, I'm saying, let's roll up. Let's get the band back together. Let's get, let's dig up Donald Rumsfeld. Let's get Paul Wilfowitz on the phone and let's go start a fucking world. I'm not trying to start a war. I think we need to get a little more cold war action going on. We need a slump foster war. We need to start a war that we can fucking win and get our groove back for a second.

You know, we got to have a rebound board. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying like literally like America should be trying to get. back together because like yo they just they just rolled up with a what do you what do you mean get back together though what are we're very divided i think that's just just all get on the same page for the most part that will never have it china tested a nuclear capable hypersonic missile in august that circled the globe before speeding towards its target demonstrating an advanced space capability that caught u.s intelligence by surprise that's not great i don't like if we're getting caught by surprise

yeah i don't like that's not good i thought i thought the whole reason we were allowed to be like Talk about these big issues Because we had no other issues I highly doubt that bro I highly doubt They were sitting in their offices And like oh shit What is this on the radar

They were caught them by surprises It was probably like I was unaware that they were going to do this Like that that makes more sense It sounds to me like we didn't know They could do it Yeah I don't like they could do it Like niggas

Tapping your phone And niggas put Ads on your Yeah and meanwhile they're not keeping up With the Chinese missile technology They're worried about my test I could almost guarantee that they knew that shit was happening, bro. They do know more about like Big T's order history on Grubhub than they do about the Chinese rocket washers.

That's a concern to me. I got shadow banned on Twitter after I had a tweet went viral about Spotify and Google. I thought you're about to say I got shadow band on Grubhub. What was the tweet? Spotify was giving away free Google homes. And I said, if a company with more power than the U.S. government wants to put a microphone in your home you should probably think about what its motivation is to do that and that went very viral and then i got shadow band and didn't have

any followers for like a year because of it what is shadow band i mean like um they'll make it to where if you search somebody on twitter instagram does a lot they just did it with dave if you like search their name they won't come up and so like it makes you very hard to find so um hypothetically are you talking about an instagram post or you talking about a tweet that you had that was a tweet from Okay, so hypothetically, how many followers do you think you should have gained in that year? I don't know. I don't know, but I was shadow banned. But you're certain of it.

The content was still premiere. You were still delivering the same fire tweets. Do you have the date on it? Do you have concrete date on it? How do you know you were shadow banned? There's also, there's things that happen where your following goes up and down and it fluctuates naturally. This was October 23rd, 2019

Had 41,000 likes Okay, sick Wow And then you didn't get any more followers until last year Yeah, I don't know It was a minute but But I'm certain I was shadow band They didn't want the truth out there

And Big T was the Facilator of that truth And we got to stop him We got to stop him I think that I know for a fact I'm on a list somewhere They've got me marked down They're like this guy's spreading truth

They They Yeah The incels have one with me on it too But yeah So glitch in the Matrix stuff Back to that Fruit of the Loom I believe

I believe the cornucopy was in the background Or Fruit of the Loom Believe there was a cornucopy In the background of it I believe Curious George I thought he had a tail I was like I was blown away to find

out the curious choice isn't. Well, because everyone said he was a monkey. He is a monkey. No, well, he doesn't have a tail. He's probably an ape. Yeah, sorry. So they missed. Good point, Billy. Yeah. It should have been curious ape. Yeah. That's the real issue. Apes don't have tails. Unless he was a recess monkey, but I think he was a chimpanzee. Look him up. Let's find out. What species was curious George? Yeah. Curious George, I could have sworn he had a tail. Yeah. I think everybody can agree on that one. He's called a little monkey. in all the literature, but he is no tale. I don't think I ever remember watching it.

I remember it being on like in the background, but I was never like a curious George fan. What about this one? If I were to ask you, what color do you think chartreuse is? Describe charters. Chartreuse is like a really light purple. I thought was blue and green.

What? Got them. Blue? You think blue? I know. You know this one? Yeah, Arian, I'm with you. I thought that it was like a light, like a pinkish purple.

Chartreuse is green. The color of chartreuse is green. It's like grass color. Blew my mind when I saw that. What? Yeah, so real life example of glitch in the Matrix right now happening to Arian's brain. There's a couple. By the way, there's one that I have no idea, but some people think that there's 51 or 52 states.

See, that is. If you think there's 52 states and you say it's a glitch in the matrix, no, you're just a fucking moron. Yeah. What are the 50, what would the 51st and 52nd states be? Do you see in Puerto Rico? Yeah. Yeah. If you think that you're just an idiot.

Yeah, it's pretty dumb. I think they do deserve it. I mean, we have 50 states. It's a nice round number. Yeah. 50 nifty United States. It's a song. All 50 states.

I think a lot of people, I think it has to do with the map having Hawaii in Alaska and then the mainland United States and they're like, oh, there's 50 states. and they think it's the mainland. Oh, but then there's those two others. Yeah, we're just describing stupid people here. Idiots, yeah. Okay. What about the bonus states?

When did Neil Armstrong die? Neil Armstrong. Oh, no, he's still alive. He died recently? No, wait. When do most people think Neil Armstrong died? They have no... A lot of people think he's still alive,

and they had no idea he died back in 2012. Yeah, 2012. Yeah. A lot of people think that the Mona Lisa used to have... a more pronounced smile than she does now. And now she's angry looking. I thought that's what I was famous for because she didn't smile. Well, she's got like a little, a peculiar look on her face.

But a lot of people think that it was like a more, more obvious. Basically, people are just like telling the Mona Lisa you should smile more. He'd be a lot prettier if you smiled, honey. Yeah, there's a lot of misremembered movie scenes like Luke I am your father and never happened. Yep. And then there's life's like a box. chocolates never happened um wait

well you're saying never happened he said life was a box of chocolates and the thing said no i'm your father like they were said they were said they were said mama always said life was like a box of chocolates you never know what you're going to get my mother always said life was like a box chocolate but people think it's life is like a box of chocolates

okay so that's a verbie some of these are pretty stupid but the thing is this happens like it's I want, there's a lot of miss false memory type scenarios that happen to a lot of people. And it's false memory. Yeah, false memory. Like, for example, Stephen Tyler, uh, was listening to the radio one day and he heard a song.

Uh, you see me crying on the radio. And he thought that it was a really good song and that Aerosmith should cover it. Mm-hmm. Aerosmith wrote that song. That's more to do with heroin, I think. That's like, I spent. I spent 15 years completely blacked out. Actually, I'm jealous of rock stars like that, like Stephen Tyler and Joe Perry.

They get to go back and listen to Aerosmith for the first time and, like, we discover it because they don't remember that shit. You know, Keith Richards said that when he was recording satisfaction, you know, the iconic riff, the dun da da da da da da da da da. He was just like passed out in a studio waking up in between like heartbeats and he was just like, like fucking around on his guitar, they happened to be recording as he was passing out in the studio, woke up the next day and listened back to it. And he was like, oh, shit, that's a really good riff. I don't remember playing that. And it became, which one is it? Which one is? Satisfaction. I can't get no. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. iconic song. What else do we have in terms of glitches in the matrix out there um one of the ones i have that i thought so i was wrong

on until like a couple years ago was sex in the city uh i grew up watching with my mom and i always thought it was sex in the city but it's sex and the city and those are one of those things where people people have they claim to have like merchandise like books or um like posters that say sex in the city rather than and um being a person that has a more developed brain now than i did when i watched with my mom was like nine i think it's one of those i think it's one of those you know those phrases that sometimes you kind of just blend all the words together like it's like sex and city like you don't really enunciate everything um sex in the city yeah it's almost like sex apostrophe like yeah so i think that's just one of those things where people just didn't enunciate their

words properly and if you're from ohio or pittsburgh or maybe some parts of us virginia um giant our like grocery chain grocery chain is called giant eagle like large eagle and everyone that i know called a g i don't even know how to spell that jine eagle giant eagle giant eagle like i'll say like giant eagle yeah that's definitely the pittsburgh accent right there but i'm not from Pittsburgh but thank God I think that I also think when whatever word it is that comes after the word sex people are just going to always overlook that yeah because like sex is sex is an attention hog when you hear sex you my brain is still thinking about the word sex 10 seconds after it's been said I'm like oh remember when that person said sex that was cool well that's and that's when I

started watching it was when people would say sex out like holy shit but you know this false memory thing has had a huge impact on a lot of a lot of people started to go to therapy in the 80s and there was always this idea that any sort of problems of people like had you know psychological issues it had to do with a lot of past trauma so what a lot of these you know psychiatrists who you know it was an early age psychology thing like there was a lot more people going to psychologists a lot more people were getting degrees in psychology but they were trying to find the trauma because they thought if they could find the trauma that's how they could sort of help the person move on from it and fix it

and a lot of people were just you know who knows why they're having going to psych but what happened was a lot of people started to admitting to traumas they that never happened to them so people would say that they remembered abuse because they were very much prompted by their psychiatrists who were trying to get like to the root of a problem or whatnot to see if it was there yeah like false false memories being implemented that's something that can happen i think like were you ever did anybody ever do this to you

and then it's sort of in a lot of it happened and it ended up getting a lot of people who were totally innocent in trouble but i'm not saying is this a study that's that's happened no no it's a very study has said so no it's it was a they talk about it in like psych 101 too but i'm not believe everybody but like you know some this

there was examples that in hypnotherapy like therapists would like get it's happened there there was one example that I'm trying to remember exactly where it was being done but there was a class of kids like very young kids and the person that was assigned to like dig into uh an allegation of abuse that started because of like there was one girl that like had some previous issues that was not doing well psychologically that was like i think she was like smearing her poop on the wall or something like that and um they interviewed uh one of the teachers there and then they interviewed all the kids in the class and then using what one of the kids in the class the girl that had the psychological issues they made some of the other students like agree that other like other things happened in

the classroom and none of the stuff actually happened so i i think that there are some circumstances like that they're probably few and far between but i have heard of something i'm trying to i'm struggling oh yeah romona versus isabella two therapists wrongly prompted to recall that her their patient holly romona had been sexually abused by her father was suggested that the therapist isabella had implanted the memory in romona after use of the hypnotic drug sodium amthol after nearly unanimous decision isabella had been declared negligent towards holly romona so the false memory symptom so like for example this happens to a lot of young kids when their parents tell them a story so many times and it actually

happened to me so like uh my mother always tells the story that during 9-11 i was like at like church preschool and she was taking me home and uh i actually lived in new york city at the time of 9-11 and she talked about there's people walking up the avenues who had dust on their shoulders and uh i was asking what everyone was marching the street for and she said it was an early Halloween parade. I don't actually remember for some reason I think I remember that story but I probably definitely don't

because I was two and a half years old but my mom's told me that story so many times I almost have like a remembrance like an image in my head of what happened. Yeah, you've like created it. Yeah. It's not memory. You've created what you think you're like. Right. It's like putting yourself

in a situation. Yeah. I'm trying to look this up. I think it was actually kind of an example of mass hysteria, the one circumstance I'm thinking of that. Oh, are you thinking about the one we talked about in Spain where they saw the Mary come down? No, this is a different one. But I think all those could, like, there's definitely similarities in all of them. I thought this was interesting, though. I was doing some deep research on the dark web, strolled over to Reddit to find more about

some glitches in the matrix. And this person has a great idea. A way to, check for yourself. If you want to do your own research and find out whether or not you live in a simulation, they say, all you need to go, or all you need to do is go to a supermarket, put several dozen items in the cart, and then put them all back, but on different shelves. Apparently, this caused some errors in the scripts responsible for simulating the supermarket, and various glitches will become obvious. People around you will start acting weird. So a couple things here Number one

If you do this at a grocery store And someone around you starts acting weird It's probably because one They work at the grocery store And they're like What the fuck are you doing Making my life so difficult And putting ketchup in the milk aisle

Two, there's probably some people around you Being like this weirdo right now Is just destroying the grocery store Why are you doing this? So I think that probably explains What they're saying The glitches come from but they say that spatial distortion start to appear color changes will become visible

and then people are like has anyone ever tried anything like this and then everyone's like no you psycho this is not i i love i love that they're actually trying to figure out ways to like fuck with the programmers really all you need to do is walking around with some giant magnets right i feel like magnet magnets fuck everything up isn't that all you need to to destroy a computer it's a big enough magnet speaking of the robot dogs and the robots do you see the robot dog that has a gun now

yeah this is bullshit yeah I agree the robot dog that has a gun what the fuck is they strapped a gun onto one of the robot dogs so they've officially weaponized it but wait big T shouldn't it be that dog's right to own a firearm no it's not an American

holy shit no this is definitely one way we can all agree the robot dogs are bad Americans no no no no but that's that's a guaranteed right to us in our constitution all dogs are bad even robot dogs yeah that's actually super fucking scary because humans know like what's right and what's wrong and have a very like like yeah for example like like watching the protests over the summer we saw you know a lot of riot police officers like crying during protests and like not wanting to be like have to do you know the riot policing

and whatnot there was that one in Boston but a robot will fucking yeah I don't see much empathy or humanity the robots wouldn't cry yeah yeah so another reason why I'm

carbonist I'm yeah I'm starting to agree with Billy that I'm carbonist too I don't trust the I don't trust the robot dogs I don't trust the robot soldiers they had one trotting around in on East Harlem they had one

they had one in like NYPD stickering, just running around and it was really uncomfortable. Isn't this one of the most obvious most like blatantly bad things that we can be doing? Everyone looks at the stuff and is like bad idea. Robot dogs

with guns on them. Very bad idea. Why are we doing this? What's the demand for robot dogs out there? What companies are buying up all the robot dogs? Or is this just like Jeff Bezos inventing robot dogs counting on civilization to get so bad that we're going to need robot dogs like what is what is the driving force behind the development and distribution of robot dogs it's that company boston dynamics

that like created the other robot that can do gymnastics yeah but why what's why are do people is there an active marketplace right now like when they see this robot dog yeah is some purchaser lining up with a big fat check yes yeah and like 75000 dollars i'll take All the ones that you have. Well, we need to find out who are purchasing these robot dogs. Okay, hold on. I'm going to tell you right now. So the NYPD got a robot dog.

And the thing is, like, when you go around New York City and you know that blue NYPD white background, like they have the color scheme, when you see these robot dogs with like the silver or like a white and red Boston Dynamics, like, wraps on them, it's not that real. But when you see one with an NYPD wrap on it and it looks like a police car. you're like whoa that blows your mind that it's real like now it's really yeah like somebody gonna take over somebody going to take a bat to that and beat the shit out of that i hope matter of fact i'm calling for it on all everywhere apb beat the shit out of those robot dogs you see him robot dogs yeah beat them so i'm reading

an article about the boston dynamics dog its name is spot which seems to you can't do that you don't try to make that cute that nope you can't make it cute yeah name it like A1, 2, 3. Yeah, name it death canine. Yeah. And maybe... What's Elon's son's name? O-X-A-E-12, but they call them Ash.

Yeah, name it that. But it says in here that spot is made for, like, businesses. So it's not... I mean, I kind of duh, but, like, it's not made for just us to buy. And it's mainly just for... It's made for a bank. Like, there's all these banks need robot dog. Like, what?

kind of business are you in that you need to purchase thousands of robot dogs it says it can go into places that are unsafe for humans so adopt early adopter testers use spot to monitor remote environments inside of mines and offshore oil rigs okay great so i get that this far away from humans okay so that would be you would need approximately five robot dogs at the most but then it says no one should ever there's no scenario i can envision for mass production where you need yes there's no situation where i can imagine a single company needing more than five robot dogs. The robot can even perform on stage at theme parks. Fuck no.

Now they're really trying to just sell dogs at this point. Wait till they start making robot dogs that can do robot podcasts. No, fuck. See? Really? It's a slippery slope. First, they're taking the jobs of police officers. Yeah.

And next thing you know, they're going to be coming on here and bullshitting about the Mandela effect. Can I ask a question about things like this? Like, or like, I would ask, honestly, I would listen to a podcast hosted by robot. A hundred percent. That should be fired. It's a great idea. I have a question about things like this, like the Boston Dynamics company that makes, Boston Dynamics scares me because they're going to be the people that are like ruining us.

But with companies like that when they're like trying to make things like spot or like those weird gymnastics robots, what in what situation does this end well? Well, what they're trying to do right now is they have technology that they're trying to find. a way to find a niche for it. So they just have technology and they don't know what to do with it pretty much? Yeah, like dogs. Like think about Facebook. Like Facebook had technology and had a platform and they're trying to find the best way to monetize it, which ended up not being just ad revenue, but like selling data to

planter. Yeah. So they have this dog and they're trying to find the best way that they can start mass producing these dogs and sell them so they can get like make an IPO and then the original founders and then it all goes back percent becomes worth so much more when they start selling it so then they're trying to find if it's going to be good in surveillance is it going to be good in mines but my thing is is that if if if if boston dynamics or whatever company makes these crazy things at what at what point is there like a stopping point so they don't take over am i being like

crazy so yeah yeah you are i am i am i am yeah like they'll never take over i'm being paranoid boston dynamics you think you think they're gonna have like a whole bunch of like iron man suits and just like no but i think one i think one could go rogue but is that me being like in the middle of planet of the eighth or something that's crazy i'm not concerned about about them going rogue i'm concerned about first of all the the mentality behind somebody who has a desire to purchase 10,000 robot dogs and then what that person is going to them program the 10,000 robot dogs with guns attached to their heads.

That's what it's like that's that could happen. No, I don't think it won't do it won't be anything in mass like or it won't be like they're going to like, oh, I don't think they're going to like line up 100 robot dogs and send them to a community like that ain't no shit like that going to happen. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I, I predict that at some point in my lifetime I'm going to see robot dogs go to do some

sort of urban warfare exercise. in a populated area. I'm convinced of it. It's going to happen. I mean, drones. Listen, you don't buy robot dogs to never use them. Imagine the questions you're going to have to answer to your shareholders. Let's just say you spend like $40 million on an army of robot dogs.

After about like five or six years, people are going to start having questions like, hey, why did we make that huge investment in these robot dogs if we're never going to use them? So it is, it's not a publicly traded company, but it does have serious, I think, first round funding, which is called Series A, from Alphabet, which is Google, SoftBank Group, and Hyundai Motor Group. So those are both people who have lobbying firms. So if politicians were to stop it, they probably would get paid off. And we're going to be under the robots. Alphabet is definitely a big investor. They run Google. So also, the company that has probably more information about you than any other company in the world also has an unlimited supply of

robot dogs with guns. So when you put it that way, this podcast is going to get shadow banned. Wait, Alphabet's a private company. No, Alphabet's not. Boston Dynamics. I was like, that doesn't, I don't think that's right. Alphabet runs Google and

everything else. Big T, you've been kind of silent on this. What do you want to say? Like, this is I'm anti-robot dog, but like if you think they're going to take over something like that stuff. People were like, oh, I'm going to be, like when we talked about the artificial intelligence. You're pro Jeff Bezos. I'm not I don't see any reason to be pro or anti Jeff Bezos

when Billy was like oh I'm going to be nice to the machine so that when they take over no like shut the fuck up like they're not going to take over it's moronic eventually eventually they will they will not so I mean another big purchaser of these robot dogs is obviously military military suppliers are they really yeah yeah so I mean you would you would rather fight a war using your robot dogs and you would fight a war using your you know flesh and bone people i just i just avatar but again why no one thinks that this is a good idea no one probably the guy that runs the company this is evil genius this is like

evil mad scientist stuff that is probably crazier than some of the stuff that have been in superhero movies none of those idiots were ever like hey i'm going to I'm going to sell just like straight up death to people. Like, I don't know why we as a society are allowing these robot dogs to exist. I see no upside to them. Aside from a fact of like maybe one can go in and check out to see if the core of a nuclear reactor is safe or not. I, that I can, I can see limited use. I can see sending it into a coal mine, monitor the air, that sort of thing.

I cannot understand why we're allowing these things to be mass produced. We've gotten soft as a society. you should stand up we should stand up to these robot dogs all right anybody else have any simulation glitches anyone

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promo code macro at 3chee.com let's do some voicemails and also don't go to a grocery store and take stuff off the shelves and put them back on different parts that's just mean that's just going to make somebody to stay with the holiday season coming out I have a bunch of ones that people don't like for example double stuff Oreo

the stuff only has one F. Yep. Fruit Loops is not spelled like fruit. It's spelled F-O-O-T, F-R-O-O-T. Oscar Mayer with M-A, not Oscar Meyer. Fibrease has one E between the R and Z, not two. That's just, yeah, that's just like.

Yeah, why would they do that? Looney T-O-O-N-S, not Luni T-U-N-S, not Looney T-U-N-E music. It was spelled T-U-N-E-S, right? correct yeah yeah and people think that it's tunes because of cartoons yes got it yeah people that's also dumb that's also dumb that's also though I agree erring like febrees forbrees should have been spelled like breeze not fabriz yeah I just people trying to improve the product yeah oh the Monopoly man doesn't have a monocle okay that one tripped me up a little bit I think people okay because that trip me up to the peanuts

Yeah, Mr. Peanut. Yeah. I was like, I don't remember the Monopoly guy. He's just a dude that goes like that, right? I don't remember him having a monocle. Yeah, but people think because the peanut from Mr. Peanut from the Peanuts brand also has a monocle and is dressed like in a suit. Yeah.

Definitely has a monocle. Wait, wait. Well, there are two other things. They both kind of top hat, right? They've got top hats. Also, you just associate rich people with wearing monocles. And in the movie Ace Venture, too. He, like, punches a guy out.

And then he's got. got a monocle on and goes, look at me, I'm the Monopoly man. So that probably by the way, if you want to watch a movie that has not aged well, highly recommend Ace Ventura, too. Yep. Yeah.

If the premise of your sequel is like, okay, it's the first one, but he's going to go to Africa instead, that's usually like a big place where you can be like, maybe let's pump the brakes on this and reevaluate. But yeah, has not aged well to say the least. Jim Carrey

still a very funny guy hilarious comedian genius yep absolutely okay we ready for some voicemails yeah okay also if you want to call it's 347 560 0401 i accidentally put 346 it's 347 560 0401 and i like listening to them every week so call us okay here's the first one hey guys it's mike from arizona i called him last week i wanted to apologize to big t for assuming he would want to fight Obama. I love you, Big T, despite what, all the hate that you get. But I love you. Anyways, question.

Similar situation this week. All 46 presidents are fighting while they were in term. So, you know, their current age or whatever age it was when they were serving. Royal Rumble style, they all have to fight. There's only one winner. who wins and why love you guys goodbye

Ford okay oh no wait the second Ford there was I think there was only one Ford Ford 2 wait am I going crazy

the second Ford I didn't know there were two Ford no Ford yeah which one I have a question I have a question I have a question I have a question Gerald Ford Gerald Ford

Did you think Ford Jr? Yes okay No I did not think that the found that Henry Ford was a president. I think you might have thought that because I didn't even ask the question and you knew what it was. So I think you did

in fact think that. I do not think. Yeah, no, totally not. Sometimes the question says more than the answer. Gerald Ford would definitely fuck everybody up. Gerald Ford was a football player at Navy. Right? Michigan. Michigan, that's right. I was thinking

somebody else played football at Navy. Jimmy Carter. Jimmy Carter played football at Navy. He was a defensive end. Are they in their primes or are they... It's when they were serving. So like Donald Trump would be pretty much his age. Joe Biden would

be how old he is now. So Ronald Reagan would be 40 or however. Do you get weapons? It's Royal Rumble, so... But you can cheat. You can sneak a weapon in maybe. I think in this, I think in this will do no weapons because there were such different

weapons throughout history. No No weapons hand on hand Like, just How old was Gerald? Yeah, I'm gonna go JFK I'm gonna go JFK here Really? With that STD and everything He was a cripple, he had a bad back

Is that a hard C? Oh, he did Is that like a bad? Yeah, it's not politically correct, man Jesus. Holy shit, Billy. Just bleep. No, no, no, fuck that.

Don't bleep it. No, he had a bad back. Washington was still like in fighting Hashtag cancel Billy. Yeah, Washington was. I'm gonna go with Abe Lincoln Abe Lincoln Tall guy got a reach

Abe Lincoln before Before the last two days of his life I would take Abe Lincoln So he He was the tallest president I think But we're graded on a curve Here's 5 or something

I'm such an idiot There's so many stories of Lincoln Just having being a freak athlete Yeah And he was a good wrestler Yeah I used to wrestle sailors There was an instance Where he took a

Oh Yeah All right Where he grabbed an axe I think you're thinking About Benjamin Harrison No he grabbed an axe Justin was able to, like, do something that no one else could.

He, like, went to visit a bunch of lumberjacks, and he, like, did this strength trick that none of them could do. I think you're talking about Paul Bunyan. You might be mistaken in Lincoln for Paul Bunyan. So Lincoln was 6-4, but Washington was 6-2. Uh-huh. I'm going to go George Washington. He was still in fighting shape.

Washington definitely could throw. I thought it was a little older, man. I have no idea. How old was Washington when he served? I mean, it wasn't very long after the Revolutionary War where he was out there kicking ass He was he was 57 I think he was still pushing it

And how old was Lincoln when he served Lincoln was a beast Yeah, Billy, it's kind of embarrassing Yeah, I can't believe I forgot He had the strength of a giant He picked up an axe and held it at arm's length with the extremity of the handle with his thumb and forefinger, continuing to hold it there for a number of minutes.

The most powerful sailors on board try and vain to imitate him. See, in my head, Lincoln is like a tall lanky motherfucker. Yeah, but he had that like string bean strength. That's a thing. Yeah. He was a very angular dude, probably some elbows that could do some damage. He was built like John Bones Jones kind of. What about?

You want to, you want a legit like Mandela Effect? Where's Lincoln from? So this is one of those six. Nebraska. Five states claim Abe Lincoln. Where is he actually from? Isn't it? Indiana? No. I think. Illinois? No. He's from Tennessee.

Kentucky. Kentucky. There are two presidents from Tennessee. Do you know who they are? Want to be Andrew Jackson? Yep. Old Hickory. Yep. And then the second. Shout out Old Hickory, Tennessee. That's where I'm from. The second is. That's who's from Georgia. Oh, yeah. I grew up in Georgia, but then, like, I went to high school in Nashville. So when people ask me where I'm from, I say Nashville.

Huh, who was his second president from Tennessee? Same initials. Al Gore. Vice president from Tennessee. Andrew Johnson. Andrew Johnson, okay. You know what? American politics hasn't devolved.

Lincoln also got physical at his first political speech ever at Patsville right outside Springfield. The fight broke out in the crowd and Lincoln saw a friend about to get pummeled. Wrote historian Donald quitting the platform, he strode into the audience, cede the accident by the neck in the sea of the trousers. and his one witness remembered threw him 12 feet away. 12. Okay, but can I also... Yeah, what about like the fact that,

so 1861 or whatever when he was elected, I feel like not a lot of people were like that strong. Yeah. And everyone that was probably strong died in the war. Also, let's not forget Teddy. Redis of Strength. Teddy Roosevelt.

Teddy Roosevelt was. was a beast. Oh, that's a good one. He got shot during a speech and finished the speech. I don't think he wasn't that tall, though. He was like five. What? Yeah, yeah, he got shot like in his chest.

He was giving a speech and then he saw the person get apprehended. And then he continued on, finished the speech and then went to the hospital. That's, I don't know what he was talking about in his speech, but that's, that's grounds for one of the greatest speeches of all time. Yeah, for sure. I think it's got to be right up there, right? like what i i don't think i've ever seen anybody talk to her beast but i i don't think he would win all at all jerald ford was such a terrible fucking pick damn it but he's still a big dude you respect mass i think he's like the most modern like someone that we could actually

you know have comparisons of his story yeah because he what he was like compare what were stats like at michigan can you look that up for me bill he was a center yeah so can you look at sacks given false starts bad snaps i don't think sacks were a stat then that's true isn't that convenient what if what if he just stunk what if like he was just known as being well and i think he was a captain of the team so it probably i heard he was like probably wasn't that bad he's only six foot but how many pressures has he allowed that's what i need to know linden b johnson was a pretty huge dude but you think he's kind of soft yeah i think he moved slow yeah he was a guy that never had to move fast for anything.

Yeah. Because he could always get what he wanted. So I don't think he's a scrapper. I think Abe Lincoln is definitely the number one choice. Abe Lincoln and then, um, FDR, low man wins. Abe would seem like he would be a really good tight end. Yeah, great type matchup nightmare. I think he's like, he's built like Jimmy Graham.

I think he could make more money as a D-end. Yeah? I think he'd be a better. He probably just had really good reach. I think he could get that D.N. money. Yeah, you could get that inside arm. Looking down throughout the list here, yeah, I could honestly beat the shit out of most of these guys. James Madison, I saw the statue again when I was on campus.

James Madison, on campus at JMU, they have a life-sized statue of James Madison. And let me tell you, when I say that it is the least impressive statue that I've ever seen in my life, a five foot four statue it looks like it might as well be like three foot 10 because you're used to statues being like at least twice as big as the actual person but no a five foot four statue is enough to take your breath away and be like just don't have a statue at all

if you're going to have such a bad idea that's a bad idea yeah it's supposed to immortalize them and make them bigger than life and you just made a regular ass and like that statue's never getting taken down James Madison would probably be like Please tear down my statue Ray Mysterio vibes in the ring though

Yeah Boeca, booieca He's a he's a scrapper You guys know who Ray Mysterio is? Is he like a wrestler? Yeah 619 people on the ropes All right what do we have next?

Okay here Bill Clinton was kind of a big dude too Do you think William Howard Taft would have any, because of just his pure size. I don't think he's got the quickness. If he just sat in the middle of the ring? Yeah. Did he die in a bathtub?

Who died in a bathtub? He got stuck in a bathtub. He didn't die in it. That would have been very funny. If he died in the bathtub. If he got stuck in a bathtub and drowned because he was too fat to turn the water off. McKinley got shot in Buffalo. Mm-hmm.

He was also fat. He was also. Elvis died on a toilet. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Okay, here's the next voicemail. Hey, macrodocin, too. This is Jose out of Poland, Oregon, from the best tap water, according to Aryan.

But my great question here is, what invention do you guys think is the best? My answer is an elevator because just imagine having to take up furniture upstairs. I don't know Guys let me know what you guys think As always Stay handsome And Maddie Thank you

So if you didn't hear it kind of cut out What do you think is the best I was gorgeous I know Arian I cannot tell you how many Voicemails I got this week That said that you were gorgeous That you and I were gorgeous

Just make a highlight reel of all of them Just audio highlight I want to hear them gorgeous 30 times Okay so what is the best invention of all time i have this easy locked in answer gps done gps is pretty solid i am the worst directionality person gps is the best thing ever it's air conditioning oh yeah i yeah it's absolutely air conditioning i my ac stays on 20 full blast

24 7 365 days a year that's a good choice what about uh instant acting nasal spray it's great it like there's no medicine out there that delivers as much as it promises as instant acting nasal spray. But you don't need it all that often. No, but when you do, when you're like totally stopped up and it's like a five second deal where you're just, you're feeling great immediately. True. It's a rush.

But yeah, I agree air conditioning. Air conditioning is pretty good. Yeah, I mean, this is obvious. I mean, all those are great inventions. I mean, pretty much every invention is a great invention except for a fucking robot dog. I'm going with cell phone. It's obvious. cell phones have revolutionized

our world. Okay. I just love GPS. Also on a cell phone. That's true. I'm going to go with the nail. Okay. Do you want to expound on that?

No, bro. I'm interested. I'm just sort of like, I'm trying to think of like, what is the greatest invention that led to other inventions? Okay, the wheel Fire I think they discovered fire

I think that's a discovery Yeah, not an invention Electricity is discovery Yeah I think a wheel is an invention Or is a wheel of discovery Well, isn't everything I was gonna say the police

We discovered electricity But in order to harness it In a way that we can Manipulate and control it That's that's you're inventing You're inventing the wedge You're the simple machines you're doing

these are these are trash these are trash Billy's like calling back fifth grade science class I'm just like thinking like water water was a good adventure no but maybe the first potable cup first cup first cup cups were cool actually cups are pretty sick yeah

I agree with that I think the complexity of an airplane is like the craziest thing of it just when you're in the air you realize how crazy it is. I get too introspective on planes. I can't think about it for too long. Like how good a pilot has to be, how smart they have to be, and how they just get hundreds of people in this tube, in the air, and you can travel anywhere in the world within hours. It is one of those inventions that instantly changed the world. If you look back to, was it

invented in 19, early 1910s, late 1900s? Like, everything changed at that point when you could transport lots of people to far away places almost instantly the world changed you know imagine being the first one on the players then like hell no right trust me bro we can go from l-a to new york you're like nah i'm chilling i'm gonna take this train i i actually think that i could fly a plane i've been watching a lot of aviation videos the autopilot does most of work these days all the pilots do they just like they change their frequency to talk to different air traffic controllers landing is pretty important though autopilots can do a lot of the landing too

not all the time I kind of wish that sometimes I'm like I love my job but sometimes get anxious that I'm not learning enough skills whereas if I like started flying planes right now like over a certain amount of time I'd be able to fly

like a jumbo jet yeah but how you can take flight lessons I know what I'm just talking to a microphone he's married to the game you're a blogger now you have to live with that

you could take yeah you could definitely take flight classes though yeah those are like that actually be a sick video series to do here just Billy being like hey I don't I just want to know how to fly

I don't you have to teach me how to take off or land I'm just trying to get Billy arrested just like Amelia Earhartett yeah allegedly or Helen Keller sorry Amelia Earhart actually did

no I would yeah I would love to see you get your pilot's license. I might be interested in doing something like that. I don't want to do that because you see, here's so many stories

about like people in small planes going down. But then don't get your own small plane. Yeah, but like what am I going to do with this pilot license? Imagine if someone,

imagine if you just pulled out in random conversation. You're like, oh yeah, well, my pilot license, blah, yeah,

but then you're like JFK Jr. Like, yeah, like I can fly a plane. Oh, you want to get out to somewhere for the weekend. Let's go.

Let's go. Let's go. saying i don't i don't do i don't really do private planes like that yeah arian's only one of us here that like has the ability though to like actually be like i'm going to go on a private plane now i think i'm flying on a private plane this thursday okay but that's a private jet these little sessna one engines yeah that's no bueno where you're going on a pjj going out to denver colorado oh are you going to the devour browns game no no we're the game's going to be in cleveland going to denver we're going to play a show out

there. Our band Pup Punk is playing a show on Thursday night, I think. And then we're playing one Friday. Denver Airport? Yeah, I'll have to, I think we are flying to the Denver Airport, yeah. You're in a band? You're in a band? Yeah, I'm in a band. We're called Pup Punk, so it's me, this other guy, Rone, this other guy, Frankie, and then Robbie Fox that all work here. And so they, we used to play a bunch. We haven't played in a couple years. We're getting the band back together. And we're literally. Yeah, literally getting it back together, going out to Denver this weekend. I think we're playing a show in Denver. I'm like 99% sure about that. That's

fire, bro. It's going to be a good time. I'm pretty excited about it. I heard you were. It did a great fine. Yeah. Okay, cool. I'm excited about it. We got practice actually right now, which is why I got to start getting wrapped up. If you guys want to finish the voicemails after me, they're actually

waiting for me right now. I'm a little bit late running, but I don't want to wrap this up because you guys are doing such a good job. We can finish this. Do you mind? Do you want to do one more just end the show? You guys keep going. Yeah, I have two more. Yeah. Okay. Keep going on. I mean, you can do have a room. Okay. Big T, you're in charge.

Oh, God. All right. I don't know what that entails, but go to the next voicemail. Oh, okay. You know authoritarianly. Yeah. Okay. Next voicemail. Hey, guys. And Maddoch. CJ, big fan from out in Central California.

I just wanted to see if y'all had ever heard about the theory that in the late 1980s, Ronald Reagan replaced all the birds in America with government drones, and birds aren't real. You should check out the Instagram if you're not familiar, but just wanted to see if y'all had heard about that and what you think. I appreciate the episodes. Always enjoy listening. Have a good one. I have a very strong opinion on this voicemail. I have heard of that.

It was, I saw it off of a, it was like a news clip. And some dude was like explaining to some news reporter how like the birds aren't real. And like, and what he thought is like, you're not, you're serious, aren't you? Or you're serious. And he's like, yeah, birds aren't real. Like, I thought this is a parody. But yeah, yeah, probably the dumbest shit I've ever heard.

All of the. All of the birds. died in 1984 when Ronald Reagan killed them and replaced them with the spies. The birds work

for the bourgeoisie. My question is were the bird bodies? What? Where the bird bodies? Well, that was like in 1984

so it was almost 40 years ago so they're gone now. No, but like for example, chicken. So you're saying like where's the

carcass that they used to put in the spy thing right so like for example like oh they hid that somewhere chickens are still like this this is just like one of the worst like joke uh conspiracies that doesn't even make sense yeah have you guys ever seen a baby pigeon yeah i haven't because they look like well they don't they don't really have them like it's probably have them away from humans like they run away from humans when they get close why would they have babies by one you can have maybe if you're like pigeons aren't real.

Yeah, okay, so let's let's wormhole it. Pigeons aren't real. I've dealt with enough fucking bullshit pigeons in this city because they're big T, they want shit from you. Yeah, they're the worst. They could be, they, the, the, the government may have trained the pigeons somehow. I, I wouldn't discount that offhand.

I wouldn't be shocked if the New York City pigeons were working for the NSA. say. Like a government trained pigeons surveilling the city surveilling the city gradually and then suddenly

remember that. I will not remember that. I will sleep on that all day. Okay. Yeah, absolutely one of the worst conspiracy theories ever.

I like that conspiracy theory. I think it's interesting. It's funny. It's funny. Yeah, do I actually believe it at my core? Maybe not. But I do think it's funny.

And I think it's interesting. Also, have you seen the viral video of it? Like, where it's like, all of the birds died in 19. That's, like, the best part of it. Send that to the group. I haven't seen that. Okay, hold on. I'll send it right now.

And there's, like, shirts for it. Like, I want to get a birds or spies shirt. I had a homeboy I grew up with who was, like, dead-ass serious and was afraid that birds was going to take over. was like dead-ass here like had a whole story and everything I just sent it in the group it's

the main thing is it's like a funny video that that guy made oh I know what you're talking about yeah all right okay you got one more voicemail one more voicemail one more voicemail hi oh it's up to the best looking pack

podcast around this is Trevor from southern california and i got a question for you guys so if you got to travel back in time twice but one time you couldn't change anything you're just a fly on the wall where would you go for that and then the second time you could go back to change something so one time fly on the wall you just get to witness something what do you do in that situation where do you go and second time where you can go and change something what are you changing love you guys and Hey, Big T, don't let the haters get you down.

You're not that bad. You know, I think, I appreciate when people are like, you know, Big T, I don't hate you as much as other people. Like, those other fuckers may hate you, but I don't think you're all that bad. That was probably the worst bad kind of comment. Yeah, whatever. Fuck it. I don't get you down. You know how many haters.

You're not that bad. You know how many haters I've ever met that were doing better than me, Arian? Not a fucking one. Not a one. Tell them Big T. Connor. Um. So do you guys get the voicemail?

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if I couldn't change anything, I'm fascinated by civil war history. I like that period of American history a lot. So I would probably want to go like see a civil war battle or something. Maybe the Revolutionary War, though, because that's kind of cool.

cooler. Yeah, Revolutionary War. You want to go back in time and watch a war. I mean, that's like the coolest part of American history was the Revolutionary War. What? Like, you wouldn't want to go watch George Washington

cross the Delaware River River and go fuck up the Redcoats on Christmas when they thought like we were just taking a break and then we went and just absolutely kick the shit out of them. What do you think happens in war, bro? like, niggas get bodyed. They die. You want to go watch people die? Well, when you phrase it like that, it's, it's, it's not representative of what I'm saying.

But, uh, I mean, if you, listen, if you want to get down to the nitty gritty, uh, okay, let me phrase it this way. I would like to go in like, see Boston during the Revolutionary War or something. Just like, like around the town, just get the vibe, you know? Like, you would, you would want to just see what life was like that. Yeah, go talk to some people, see, like, what the scuttle butt is around, around the shop, you know? Go hang out at the barber shop for a little bit. I got you.

Now, if, if I could also go see George Washington, fuck up the red coats, like, that would be sick. But I'd also just like to go, go get the vibe around town. I don't think you, like, I don't think you would like it, man. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just to be honest. Well, I mean, it's not like I'm participating. I can just check it out. It would be participating. Like, because you loki, like, cheering for them.

then you'd cheer you'd be cheering them but in this yeah this scenario big t can't big t is like a ghost and can't do anything right so cheering that's wild so in the one where i can change something that's that's interesting um i don't know y'all go around and i'll think of i'll think of that one my uh going back and not doing anything would probably be some time during uh King Tuts, Ray, rain. I would just, I would like to just kind of like, like Big T, go to the barbershop, if they had a barbershop, you know? Just check the vibe of the city, man.

I'm obsessed with Egyptology. And if I could go back and change something, I don't think that I would, actually. I don't think I would change anything. That's pretty deep. Thank you. Whether you would change. something or but like saying that you wouldn't

that's that's kind of a deep thought yeah I don't I don't see the reason to um life has transpired has transpired and I'm made my peace with it Billy Coliseum to be flying the wall

just see the games I mean y'all yeah yeah my fuck is violent man I know it's violent I know it's violent I mean but a lot of the Coliseum violence we now know no like not gladiators didn't die that often so maybe you're catching them on a day where no one's dying yeah no i mean you want to see somebody die in that motherfucker i don't i i mean they say that it was the greatest sporting event on earth like you say you want to go to like you know super bowl

the super bowl or like a huge cc football game for the atmosphere is insane like the coliseum atmosphere must have been insane how much people did it see it's see it's needed like a ton of people like the equivalent the equivalent to some bigger stadiums 50,000 like an NFL stadium and these guys how much how much how much is uh the stadium neelan sit 102 455 102 but you could tell that that place was jam packed when they had to call them see him and having the emperor there how how could you tell you How could you tell? Well, you could imagine they didn't have the best security.

So you just have everyone in like... 50,000 is a loose. Yeah, 50,000 is just how many people could sit. But they probably packed that place. So let's say they double that and do it 100,000. But that seats. It said it said this said it can hold 50,000 people. Probably more.

Also, we have to remember that the Coliseum, though, it's like not like modern day stadium. Like, the Coliseum at some point, I'm sure, has a weight capacity. True. But they probably never. I'm sure. They were built to last. Yeah. I mean, it's still around.

So I've come up with mine that I could change. I thought about saying kill baby Hitler. But I think the actual answer, I'm taking some liberties here in terms of how this works, but we're time traveling. So I feel like that's okay. I would want to go to like Isaac Newton. or Da Vinci or somebody like that and just tell them about all the shit we have now

and just like see what they'd come up with. Like if I could explain to them like how the internet works, how computers work, you know, and the like and just see like what if they could do anything with that. Does that make sense? Yeah, actually it does. Because Newton was fascinating because he knew what gravity was but he didn't know how it worked yeah right and that's what Einstein did and that's why

Einstein was famous because he figured out how it worked to a certain extent and so like you're saying give them the knowledge of today and see what they could do yeah if I could just transfer all the knowledge that we have today to let yeah let's go with Isaac Newton like just see what he come up with Newton Newton Newton's in running for being one of the smartest motherfuckers that's ever lived on this planet like that motherfucker was insanely smart dog he also just was like celibate he was an insult he was

Newton was an in cell he was sat in his fucking yeah he just sat in his study all day and fucking thought about shit calculated shit part of me would want to see how things were built

without like modern machines like how long it took and like yeah exactly just like stuff like that really interests me giant I take mine back fuck Egypt I would want to go back

to the first the first dude that realized when I started his own fire like the first first human ever to start

to the own fire that would be fire literally yeah is that it is that it all right I guess I got in

the show I was left in charge when PFT had to go to his band had to go to his band practice send us home baby that might be

the best part of the episode is Arrian realizing your name is Connor yeah shit I had no fucking cool, though. And when I followed you on Twitter, not too long ago,

I think I saw it forever without following me on Twitter. I never said anything about it because I'm not that guy, but it was a very long time. How do you know? How you, how you, how you know? You're just checking on me every day and see if I'm like, well, no, I would just like occasionally come across your page when we would tag you in something for the podcast. So I was, oh,

still doesn't follow me. It's like I thought we're pretty good pals. I mean, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't like I know, I know, I know, I know. I know, you know. I But we could. I follow everybody here, don't I? I'm pretty sure. I think so, yeah. Aaron, I just want to say thank you for the follow. It doesn't matter how long it took.

Yeah, man, you know, we've got a nice little community going on, man. I'm one of the guys. All right. Well, thank you, everybody for listening. Love you guys. And we'll be back next week. We'll be back on Thursday, Art of War. Follow us. Whoa. Thank you.