Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - The Octopus Murders: The Conspiracy Behind the Conspiracy | Macrodosing - Oct 29, 2026

Episode Date: October 29, 2026

On today’s episode, PFT, Arian and Big T discuss the bizarre and mysterious story behind American Conspiracy: The Octopus Murders, exploring the death of journalist Danny Casolaro and his investigation into a massive alleged conspiracy involving government officials, intelligence agencies, and powerful figures. What started as an investigation into a software scandal quickly turned into a web of corruption, murder, and unanswered questions. Plus, they get into Jay-Z as the Super Bowl Halftime performer, Florida mom arrested after leaving her kids home alone, Pentagon UFO files released, the MLB playoffs and potential ensuing MLB lockout, midterm elections and the return of JNN and much more. Enjoy! (00:06:06) Jay-Z Halftime Show (00:17:23) Florida Mom Arrested After Leaving 4 Kids Home Alone (00:31:22) Pentagon UFO Files (00:33:58) MLB Playoffs (01:00:45) Internet Invitational (01:07:17) Midterm Elections (01:27:17) Washington Wizards (01:29:21) American Conspiracy: The Octopus Murders Join at https://RocketMoney.com/MACRO. Order Pardon My Cheesesteak on https://pardonmycheesesteak.com and use code AWL for free delivery.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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is coming out with an album sometime around Black Friday. I think it's going to be free. I don't know how it's going to be monetized in this day and age. Glennie Balls? Nobody's buying it. No, it's just another guy, Glenn. Glennie Ball should put out an album, though. That gives me an idea.

I bet you we could make Glennie Balls like a fucking superstar. He already is. What am I saying? He's already a superstar. I'm saying a musical superstar. But I was trying to get Big T to guess the feature on this album that's coming out. Massive, massive feature. And my only clue to him was this is one of our great American sports musicians.

Because there are certain musicians out there that you associate more with sports than you do sometimes with music. Yeah, I don't know. Imagine Dragons because the ESPN always picks an Imagine Dragon song for the college football. It's a fair guess, but no, it's not an ID. I don't know. All right. Well, that'll just have to be hanging out there. I'll tell you some people that it's not

because Aryan guessed Kenny Chesney or sorry he said Kenny Chesnut Kenny Chesney is a sports musician for sure It's not him Hooty I would say is a sports musician Yeah big South Carolina guy Yeah like half of his job now is just like being on game day showing up at games just being in the crowd

Being on the sidelines places Snoop Dogg sports musician Is he? I think he's turned into one, yeah. Oh, yeah. What does he do with sport? I mean, he had his youth football thing. He's always on the sidelines at, like, or at least he was at USC games for a long time.

Yeah, he's the owner, or at least the commissioner, started that youth football league in L.A.? Yeah. I went to the studio. He just has mad jersey. He's a big sportsman. Yeah, he made a song about football, actually. Black, no, it's not Black and yellow. That's, is that Lou Wayne?

Wiz-Colite. It's Wiz-Cleague. Didn't he have his own college football bowl game? Yeah, the Arizona Bowl. That was formerly the Barstall Sports Arizona Bowl. Yeah. That's right. I believe it was the Snoop and Dre Arizona Bowl presented by gin and juice by Snoop and

Dre. That's a great game. That's a great name. Was Jimmy Kimmel ever involved in that one? He was the Las Vegas Bowl. Okay. Or the LA Bowl. Yeah.

Excuse me. The Snoop Dog Arizona Bowl presented by gin and juice by Dre and Snoop. That's the Christian name. Rolls right off the tongue. Yeah, Snoop. What about Jay-Z? Jay-Z, now I think we can say a sports musician. He has selected himself to be the entertainer at the halftime show.

He's back. Shout out. He's back. I'm surprised it took him this long. Really pissed Jason Whitlock off. No shit, really? Oh, man, he was hot. Damn.

It takes a lot to get Jason Whitlock going about something. He said you had a homosexual, Latino artist and Bad Bunny. I didn't know he was gay. Was he gay? Is Bad Bunny gay? I was, I don't know. Well, according to John, he is not gay.

I don't think, yeah, I never heard. He was dating Kendall Jenner. Even if he was gay, it's not like the Super Bowl halftime show has never had a gay person performing. I just, well, one of the many nonsensical statements of Jason Whitlock. He did describe his sexuality as fluid and open to change. Okay. So possibly dabbling? That's what it sounds like.

Fluid. Well, that wouldn't be gay. That'd be biased. Yeah. Yeah, he's his own thing He just he appreciates beauty I respect it So what you got to do

So yeah Jay Z is He's gonna perform at halftime I've you know what It's been a long time Since I've watched Any of Jay Z's live performances There was one tour that he went on That was it was pretty good

When he went on tour With a full live band Was that with Linkapart? No, he had his own band That went on the tour But they were They put on a hell of a live show I haven't heard much from him recently, but he's got bangers.

Of course. I'm just curious to see how he's going to curate it. Because again, like the Super Bowl's four, you're trying to get, like, mass appeal. So I'm curious is the way he's going to do. Probably have a lot of guest artists out there. Yeah. Mariah Carey. He might pull Mariah Carey out.

Yep. I'm trying to think, though, because, like, Jay-Z, has he, has he, lost a lot of support over the last four or five years because he seems like he's someone that's gotten really, really deep into the production promotion side of music,

less about making new music on his own and more about owning music. And I don't know, I feel like I haven't heard a lot of people standing up for this selection of Jay-Z recently. Well, also people a lot, he lost a lot

of support when he cheated on Beyonce. There you go. And she made lemonade. There you go. That's probably what it is. Yeah. That was 2016. So I was like 10 years ago.

Yeah. I forgot about that. Allegedly too. Allegedly. Right. Allegedly. No, no. No, actually, hold.

I think he admitted it on 444. Did he said my bad? Yeah. He made probably the greatest cheating song of all time. 4-44. It's an amazing song. She probably made one of the greatest. got cheated on songs of all time.

That's my favorite, be honest, that album. Same. Cool. Becky with the good hair. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm, I'm excited. I like Daisy.

Not excited to see these wack-ass takes that are going to come from it, but, you know, comes to territory. They're going to call everything Satanic no matter what. That's what I've just accepted that. I don't know, like, I don't remember a hoopla about the Super Bowl picks. Like, I don't remember there. in so much like, oh, fuck no.

And maybe that's just the internet now. But like I looked at like, what is it? The past like 10. I looked at, I don't know if it's still up. Nope, I let it go. But it was like, there's like U2, Maroon 5, like shit like that. Is that what people want?

Like, I just don't understand the backlash. Like what would satisfy the people that are, like with Jason Whitlock? What does Jason Whitlock want? What Super Bowl have to? time show would be like, yes, now we're talking. Now you're headed in the right.

Kirk Franklin. No, I don't think he was anybody black. Not even New Nation? I don't think Jason would like one. Nobody black. Yeah, he probably not any music, like dancing is a sin. It could be.

Just like a Joelstein. Yeah. Up there for a 30 minute time. Yeah. Yeah. That would satisfy him, I think. I don't know. You're right. There's nothing that can be gained. you're not going to satisfy everybody with a halftime show selection no matter what someone's going to hate it and now that there's like an incentive to be the first person to say how much they hate it then yeah just no one's ever going to be like yeah you know what I got admit

Jay Z that I don't like rap music I'm more of a I'm more of a scripture person myself but I have to admit 99 problems that was really good I got nothing to say about that someone's going to have a take about it. We lost our chance to have a clean sweep of a Super Bowl pick. Dolly Parton. That shit would have across the board. Everybody would love that shit. Yeah, she did the Cowboys Thanksgiving halftime a couple years ago.

Yeah. That's good. Nice. Yeah, I think that would have United America right before or right after midterm. I had a suggestion that I made online and I think people liked it. what about Weird Al? Why not Weird Al? He's got a little something for everybody.

How old is he now? I don't want to think about Weird Al getting older. He's got to be, I want to imagine Weird Al like, like, 65. Like, oh, no, no, like Mickey Mouse or like Bart Simpson. Like Weird Al is going to, he stays the same age forever, in my mind. You were definitely a big Weird Al guy. I wasn't, I wasn't a big weird out. There were guys that were like massive Weird Al guys, like super fans of Weird Al guys.

I was not. I owned the album Bad Hair Day. Great album by Weird Al. I think I had one more too. So I was definitely, you could call me a fan. I'm a respecter of Weird Al and for his ability to do what he's been doing for the last, like, 40 years. And to still find ways to evolve and to adapt and be creative and to also really have everybody love him. Like there's only a handful of people out there that would look at Weird Al and be like,

you know what, that guy's not for me. And usually they're the asshole. So Culeo had a problem with Weird Al because Weird Al cleared Culeo to have him use Gangsters Paradise for Amish Paradise. And then Weird Al put the song out and Culeo was like, I don't fuck with that. And Weird Al was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. I thought that we had cleared it with you. I didn't know that it was going to be a problem.

I never would have done it if I thought that you wouldn't like it. He was devastated by the fact that Culeo had some sort of misunderstanding over the use of gangster's paradise. He just seems like a good guy. He seems like one of the rare good dudes, good entertainer. And I think he's... That was my introduction to him. The United Center. He was here a couple weeks ago.

I think he sold that place out. Really? Yeah. Where'd out? I think so, yeah. That was your introduction was Gangsus Paradise or Amish Paradise? Yeah, Amish Paradise. I hadn't heard him before that. I liked it.

Yeah, it's good. I can see how Coolio could get upset about that, though, because it's a, you know, it's a song about... struggle that you go through and it's kind of like, but yeah, I like that. It's also just like, yeah, I get that, but also he made it into a song about Amish people. Like, it's so silly that it's hard to get upset about it. If he just, like, co-opted it and made it like about his life or something like that. But since it's about...

This is a cultural thing. Like, if you ain't never been around, like, white folk humor before you, but what the fuck are you doing? But, like, it's harmless. Yeah. He's a good dude. You know who reminds me of you ever heard of Narwar? I was just thinking that. No.

Yeah. You never heard of Narwar. You would love Narwar. So Narwar is a dude, PFT, who, um, he gets these, like, really short and niche interviews with, like, major artists. And he does, like, extensive research on them to the point where, like, they are, like, how the fuck do you know that? Every artist is just, like, blown away about, by what Nard war.

says about them. It's fascinating interview. It's like, they're usually like five and seven minutes, but they, they,

he just does so much research. Like, it's, it's pretty interesting. And then he'll get them like vinyl records. They're always in like vinyl stores. And then he'll get them vinyl records of like, here's this 1978,

you know, the mama's and the papa's, uh, vinyl for you as a gift. And they're like, how did you know that this was the first vinyl I ever owned when I was eight years old in suburban Texas? Like, it's like these super, super insane.

Like, he freaks them out. Okay. But he looks extremely similar to Weird Al. I got to check that out. I promise you. Like, just type in, like, a rapper that you think would be interesting. Like the title of the creator ones are really funny. Yeah.

That one's good. He did. Did you see the one he did with Drake Maddie? Uh-uh. Oh, God. He asked him straight up. He's like, you don't kiss your fans anymore, do you? And Drake was like, ah, no, no, no.

He's like, oh, okay. It was, it was, but it was almost like Norwood taking it. This was pre-the-beef, but it's almost like Norwalk saying, yeah, that was kind of weird, man. He's almost like a cross between weird Al and like Nathan Fielder vibe. That might be a perfect summation of him. Thank you. I'm going to have to check this guy out. It feels like I've been missing out on it.

It's N-A-R-D-W-A-R. W-U-A-R. Okay. I'm sending it to you. Yeah. I'm in. I'm in on this guy. Anyways, Weird Al for halftime performance.

The catalog is deep. I would like to see what direction Jay-Z goes away from after this. After himself? Like, where do you, like, what are he thinking? I would like to see what he does. That would be interesting. Yeah. Um, until recently I was an advocate for ACDC at halftime, um, recently after Singed and Live, I don't know.

I don't know if that's how I want to remember them by, but Metallica, I still think would kick ass. Metallica as a halftime show would be, it would be awesome. I'm in Metallica fame. Uh, let's see what we got going on today, Big T. What's new in the world? Um, the, the biggest story I've seen. the last couple days. Have you seen this mom that got arrested coming off the plane? No, I have not. So she went to Vegas for work for, I haven't seen the length of time. It was a couple days,

two or three days, I think. And she left her 14, 9 and 5 year old, 9, 11, 12, and 14, excuse me. So the 14 year old was the oldest, youngest is 9. She left them home alone with a babysitter coming like a couple times a day to check up on them. But the babysitter didn't have to stay there. Okay. So they were home alone for the most part. Okay. I feel like this happened in every single 80s movie ever.

Right. But one of the, I guess a dumbbell fell off a gym rack or something and hit the nine-year-old in the head. So one of the other kids called 911 And that's how they discovered that the I think the kid's fine But that's how they discovered They were home alone And when the mom stepped off the plane

Back from her work trip She was arrested So there are a lot of people who feel strongly On both sides of this That a 14 year old is old enough To be left with those kids I'm gonna say something I hope that this doesn't come across

As being sexist Was a 14 year old a girl or a boy? I don't know. Give me one second. I think that makes a little bit of a difference. For the most part, I'm speaking in generalizations. Because I feel like 14-year-old girls are much more responsible when it comes to that sort of thing than a 14-year-old boy would be. Yeah, it just says children.

That's like prime babysitting age where they're like looking after neighbors, kids and stuff, earning some money on the side. Yeah. But a 14-year-old boy, no, absolutely not. and possibly if it's a very responsible, but for days at a time, that sounds like a long, three days sounds like a long time. Yeah,

I see both sides. It is, it does strike me as kind of crazy to leave, like, if it was 17, yeah, fine. So they did have a babysitter

that was checking in, you said. Yeah, I think coming like before and after school that said. The danger would be if you don't have a responsible person

looking after the kids, if something happened, then they're unable to handle it. Right. It sounds like something happened that could have happened regardless of who was there, and they handled it. They did the right thing. They called 911. Yeah, it's an interesting perspective.

Yeah, I don't know. I'm not, this is maybe a big tea take on my part. I don't like the idea of a mom getting arrested for that sort of thing. Like the government getting, I don't necessarily know that that meets the standard of, like, are these kids actually in Danish? I don't know that that is the big T-take. No, that's bad, bro. What?

No, I think, I don't know. Arrested is kind of nuts, but like, a 14-year-old, I don't know, for like days. No, no, y'all are tripping. Hell no. What if you have a babysitter coming over? Taking care of a 5-year-old?

No, 9. Nine was the youngest. I misspoke. It was 9-11, 11, 12, and 14. That's a little better But still, no Like so if you're going I'm about to step out

I'm about to go to dinner Yeah that's fine You know I gotta go to work That'll be all right Days no Hell though You're tripping Even if they have babysitter

Coming over Yes you're tripping Yeah But if you're already paying somebody Why not just have them stay there Like I don't Maybe they couldn't stay Maybe they didn't want to pay them to stay

Because that's extra Staying overnight All right But like That's bad though That's bad It's better than into jail.

Yeah, it is. I guess she wasn't accounting for a dumbbell falling. I also need to know what kind of trip this was. It was a work trip, it said. Like, legit work trip? That's what it says, working in Las Vegas. Okay. The destination does.

There's a lot of work trips in Las Vegas. Yeah. Military contractor, maybe. I went on a work trip to Las Vegas last year. It also happened to be Max's Bachelor Party. Right. but it was also a work trip there. Miller told investigators she was working in Las Vegas and a babysitter was checking on the children

according to the sheriff's office when she returned to Florida. Investigators took her into custody. The old Florida to Vegas work trip. That actually makes it more plausible to me. People living in Florida would do business in Las Vegas. You're probably right. I'm going to not say anything else because I do not want to get in big trouble. if you speak big trouble

if I speak big trouble and you don't want to be in big trouble but if you if someone like you was going to speak well if someone like me was going the question might be like how often does this lady go to the Las Vegas for work trips interesting

you think this is the first time this happened I don't know it could just be a conference that's totally normal yeah maybe it's a bad take on my part area I don't know because I don't have a 14 year old But I feel like that's right about the age where when do you start trusting them to stay home alone? I'm trying to remember when I stayed home alone first time.

I mean, those are about the ages, but like I said, that amount of time is just no, though. Like, no. Like you can have a very responsible 14 year old, but they're still 14 years old. There's just things you can't account for. Just bad decision making neglect. Like the attention span looking after a nine year old all the time. So like I got a nine year old. So it's like she running around and stuff every now.

then you got to be like, hey, where are you at? What are you doing? You have to do that. You have to check in. You have to be accountable for. Feed, you know, like, all of that stuff. Like, my 13-year-old son, super responsible.

He'll get up and cook everybody breakfast in the morning. He knows how to cook. I understand the regulations in the kitchen. But I'm still not letting him go three, four days without any adult supervision with my other person. Hell no. No. And not only that, that's a lot for a 14th.

you know to handle. Like in our day, P-15, yeah, that's probably regular occurrence, honestly. But a lot of shit our parents did was stupid. Yeah. Like, I think, I used to walk to school. Kids used to walk to school

long ways. Just at five, six, seven years old. Like, fuck, no, I ain't doing that shit. Yeah, I mean, when I was a kid, I'd walk to school. I would, I could like, stop at McDonald's on the way there, on the way home. I had like a little bit of freedom when it came to that sort of thing.

Freedom was great. How many times do you abuse that shit? Yeah, a few times, yeah, a few times. But like overall, I don't know. Like, did the world change or did just the way that we were raised, did that affect how we grew up and then become parents? Shaken their day. I think there's some truth of that.

Yeah, because like if you talk to people that are like my parents' age, it was like kind of free range kids just like go play and then when it's dinner time I need you in this house and now I think there's a big push to get back to that like kids need more

unsupervised yeah about to say I wish there was more of that a little bit like go outside like go do something I think the problem also became that by and large when people our parents age were growing up

it was like safer to be out on the street and by the street I literally mean like the street and the roads. And now it's like cars, way more cars, everything's so densely packed. Like there's a- It depends on the neighborhood, but also like neighborhoods, dynamics are changing. Like neighborhoods used to be neighborhoods. Whereas like, I don't know.

I mean, again, I live in a suburb where I'm kind of disconnected, where this neighborhood is not like the one I grew up in where it's like, you knew the person on every single house, every single block, New York. mom, you knew they mom. It was more of a community. This is just more like, I got my space, you got your space. And I'm sure there's places like that, but from my experience, that landscape has changed. Yeah, I mean, I would typically just like, I would walk home from school.

I knew all the kids in my neighborhood. I'd go hang out with them for a little bit. I'd just be like, hey, I'm going to go out. I'll be back later. be back in like two hours. Okay, fine. Go out, play some like basketball, play some baseball, do something, and then come back. But like, yeah, I can't imagine parents doing that right now.

People would think that they're insane. You might get arrested. You might get arrested for it. If your kid just came home was like, hey, I'm going to go to so-and-so's house, we're going to go play basketball, whatever. And then like, God forbid something happened, like, you'd probably get in trouble. Yeah. And it's, I think that by and large, we're safer than we used to be.

be we just hear about all the bad stuff that happens that's true that is like there were there were weirdos and freaks and criminals back in the 1990s we just didn't have an app on our phone that was like hey the police just got called down the street yeah the citizens app it wasn't available yeah just thought you should know that that uh that your neighbor called the cops because they thought somebody was breaking in but it was just a bird so that has happened what was y'all's show you would watch when you got home from school. Oh, oh, there was a big time lineup, big time lineup. If you got home early enough, you got to see like the end of Ricky Lake.

And after Ricky Lake, you got things like the animaniacs. Then you had the Power Rangers. Then you had like full house, family matters. It was a nice little lineup if you stayed in. Yep. Mine, I think it was because I grew up Eastern Time Zone. You grew up Central Time Zone. But Ricky Lake was too early for me.

So I would never, I would never see any of those shows. But I get home and then it would be, yeah, Animaniacs. At some point, the Simpsons became syndicated. And that was huge. That was a massive one. When you got home? No, it'd be a little bit later. I feel like they came on at Simpsons.

Yeah, I'm talking. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. When they hit syndication, I think they were on five and five 30. That's too late. This is, I don't remember. I remember to say, I remember I had to sneak to watch the Simpsons. The new episodes were late on Thursdays, I think.

But, yeah, when they got syndicated, then it was every day, twice a day. Yeah, it was like Family Matters. That was a big one. Step by step. Step by step. What about you? Wait, was that? I thought that was a weekend.

Because a weekend line of Saturday morning of cartoons was, that was a time to be had as well. You get your cereal and you lock in with all the cartoons. that shit was amazing. For me, there was everything on Disney Channel and Nickelodeon, but what I remember watching getting home from school was there was always King of Queens reruns. Okay. And I'd sit down and just watch King of Queens for two hours and then my parents would get home. Okay.

I just recently figured out that the dad and that it's Ben Stiller's dad had no idea. Yeah, had no clue. Bam-ba-ba. My dad played baseball in college with the cousin or brother in the show. Gary Valentine. He played Division III baseball. I remember his name.

Gary Valentine? I need to refresh. Forget his name in the show. Oh, yeah. He's the, yeah, I think he's the brother. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think they're cousins in real life.

I was going to say he looks like Kevin James. Yeah. So he kind of look exactly like it. I can't remember which is which, but yeah. He's the brother on the show, and I think they're cousins in real life. No, they're brothers. Oh, they're brothers.

Yeah. Okay, so maybe it's opposite. Oh, yeah. Kevin James' real name is Kevin Nipfing. And then Gary Valentine's real name is, wait. Yeah, it's Gary Nipfing. I don't like that now. I like that they go by James and Valentine's.

Yeah, why? It sounds like a slur. Why? Why? I don't like the change. Unless it's like clearly a stage name. Like, Gary Valentine sounds like a stage.

No, I know. I'm saying, I thought Kevin James was his name. I did too. It might be first and middle name. Yeah. Jimmy Fox. That's a stage name.

Kevin George. What's his name? What is Jimmy Fox's real name? Jamie Fox's real name. That's great. I did not know that. It says Jamie Fox. I didn't know that.

Oh, is it? Gary Valentine was his brother. That's crazy. Uh, parents. Oh, Eric Marlon Bisch. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. How do you get Jamie Fox from that?

I mean, how do you get a lot of, I mean. Eric Bishop is a sick name. But so is Jamie Fox with two X? Yeah, Jamie Fox, too. Do you think he tried just Jamie Fox with one X? Yeah. That's just not, I need, I don't know if you automatically go to two. I think he tried, I think he probably tried it with one X, and then he was like,

it's missing something. I've got to bump this up. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Did you guys see the news about the news? new Pentagon UFO files? No. So the Defense Department

released, I think this is batch number seven of unidentified aerial phenomenon records on Friday. You saw it? Yeah, it's a title of gaslighting. What do you mean? They're always doing this. Show me the aliens. Unless there's aliens,

I don't want to see shit that we don't know. Yeah, so these files are just basically written witness statements of things that we had already heard about. So they talked about one of the guys that was at Roswell. They talked about like his statements. So there's no no like new evidence that we didn't already know except for like verbatim what their words were.

Someday they'll tell us the truth. They also found, they found an old ass bone. They found a six, I think they found 60,000 bone fragments in a Chinese cave. that appeared to be from like a distant relative of humans 150,000 years ago, which is pretty cool. What is it called? I don't know what they call it. It might be they're looking for the missing link,

but I don't know when the missing link happened. I'm not well read enough on human evolution, but 150,000 years is a long-ass time. More than I know. I did see the, I saw something from this drop, which was the FBI agents that said they saw a black flying, triangle that then disappeared instantaneously. Over the ridge?

Yeah. So I didn't know that was part of this. I had seen that. Yeah, it rose above a ridge line. It hovered and then it went a mile and a half in three seconds before it disappeared. The date and location were redacted on it. So there you go. That's really not a lot.

It was probably a B2. Yes, if I were to guess, if it's a flying black triangle, that's probably what it would be. That's what all this stuff is, man. Just B-2s? Not necessarily, but it's things that our military has that we can't comprehend yet. Yeah. And then they put these, oh, we drop the files, give you a little, yeah. A little taste pat on the head.

There you go. Well, hey, we'll let the guy from Blink 182 tell you about it. Does that make it easier? Cool. Aaron, we've waited too long. Milwaukee Brewers, this is coming out on Thursday. So let me be the first to congratulate. the Milwaukee Brewers on winning the work series.

You guys won. Relax. Relax. Relax. Relax. Relax. You don't, you know what I'm saying?

Jenksing it, though. I mean, the raise, they emptied their bullpen yesterday. They have no plan. I don't know who's going to be pitching today for them. Yeah,

it did look like that. And who do you have pitching? Uh, who is it Ms. Back home? I believe it's Ms. Right. Should have used him last night.

I'll be honest. Okay. Listen, this is a deep cut Milwaukee tape. He's played well in the playoffs. Don't get me wrong. But I think for what we as a fandom expected of him, probably not as good, but he's been very good.

Don't get me wrong. I don't want to shit on it because he's good, good kid. But, yeah, excited to see his mids back on the mound. And hopefully it's the Miz we know. PFT, have you seen the parallels between the rays in the 2004 Boston Red Sox? I have seen some of them. I read the angle.

Listen, this could all look foolish by the time it comes out. It could be over. It will. I hope it is. Down 3-0 in a series. In 2004, the Red Sox lost the first two games to the Yankees close. They got blown out in game three. Game four, they won on a walk-off in the 12th inning.

The Rays lost the first two close, got blown out in game three, won game four on a walk-off in the 12th inning. It was the 12th inning. 12th inning, yep. Now, one, do they have big poppy? One was the ALCS. One was the World Series. Sure.

And good point, Aaron. One had Big Poppy. Yeah, he was awesome in that series. Yeah. One had Dave Roberts. One has Junior Caminero. One has Junior Caminero. One had Kurt Schilling.

Pedro Martinez. Pedro Martinez. That's the famous Kevin Millar. Don't let us win tonight. Don't get PD tomorrow. show show game six. Yep. Then game seven,

anything can happen. If they beat Mizorowski, though, now you go back to Milwaukee, you're one game away from forcing a game seven. They've used up their ace. I will say this. If they beat Miz Rowski,

if Ms. Rouske has a bad outing tonight, I see the point and series 100% back on. But see, but see, this is what I'm saying, though. Ms. ain't been the Ms. The aura of the Ms.

has not showed up at all in the playoffs, I would argue. he's had a good playoffs but the the miss that we know has not been what we did so like even if even if that is the case our bullpen has said Aaron Ashby has been the star

on our in our in our bullpen Aaron Ashby has been Uribe really showed up except for the last part of the Dodger series he kind of you know I think anytime your rebate pitches two days in a row he gets kind of shaking but when he's on he's on so

he's cracking Henderson's been cracking Hall has been cracking. It's just, I think the strength has been our bullpen and our bats. Yep. So I don't see them if they do get some traction off the MIS. I don't see that as all we're doing. I don't see. Ms. has a 2.7 ERA in these playoffs.

He had a 1.5 last year, 2.7 this year. 14 strikeouts in 13 and a third innings. 13 hits for earned runs so yeah I mean still really really good but not not shut down dominant that's what I'm saying so like when we when you think of like oh shit we got

we got that dog coming in he hasn't been at this city and maybe this is his time and this is how legends are made big time players make big time plays and big time games now if he comes down and shuts down and wins the World Series tonight we have different conversation you know right so is it for comparison over the regular

season his ERA was 1.8 and his whip walks and hits per innings pitch point eight so yeah he's he's not been as good in the postseason but some of that can be attributed to he's been playing against better competition in the postseason absolutely you go against the Padres lineup the Dodgers Mansa Mousa payroll yeah it's been it's been tough so I will say that that if they lose If they lose tonight, if the Brewers were to not close out, I say series is back on. I think it's on right now. You think it's on? You think the raise are in this? Yeah. Wow. What the raise did last night was very, it was very brewers coated.

I don't believe. You believe that shit, bitch. I do. I do. Okay. If you do, show me your betting history. I had a nice parlay the other night with, it was Churrio and who's the pitcher- If you believe that shit, you'll put money on that. It's true. He's right. You believe that shit? I believe they have a chance, yeah. I see how you walked a little bit.

What are they to win the series? Hey, Mike, Mike started to move off. First of all, first of all, hey, I picked the Brewers in five before the series. I could come out looking amazing. But yeah, I think the race They lost the first two games by a run They haven't been getting blown out Yeah, so you backwalked

I'm looking up right now What they are to win the series Yeah, I'm on it too You're 1990s Dion Sanders backpedaled out of that big T It's nice though I just bet on the race 9 to 1

Okay But you're going to lose money In spite of me That's all right I'm on it I'm okay Am I with that How much did you bet though

10 bucks. 10 to win 100. That's a nice. I'm with you. I'm with you. It wasn't the Cole Hawker bet. Nothing ever will be. I tell everybody about that bet.

Cole Hawker has a special place in my heart. Say it again. Cole Hawker bet. We bet on a guy named Cole Hawker to win in the Olympics. Wait, you don't know about that. We've told you about this. Oh, my gosh. We've talked about this.

Which one is Cole Hawker? I have a buddy who ran track in college. Okay. And he told me he was like this guy, this American in this race, I forget what race it was. He's like he's way undervalued. Yeah. He kicked everybody's ass in college. And he was going up against some Norwegian or Swedish guy, some.

He was by far the favorite. Yeah. Yeah. Which I didn't know. So hold on. Let me put a little back story. I didn't notice at the time, right? I had lost a bunch of bets.

I don't have started the account with like $1,000. And I was say only I started an account was like $1,000 and I was down to my last 300 and um I was like I was like Big T came and say hey I got a hot tip on the guy that called call Hawker and we were sitting in those T's that you guys were sitting in right now and uh I was like yeah fuck it I put the whole

I put the rest of it in there because I'm not a betting kind of I don't really bet like that anyway so I put 300 on Cole Hawker just off a big T's homie's uh tip and because I was just ready to lose it because I was like, whatever. I didn't even know he wasn't the favorite.

I thought he was the favorite. And so when I found he went to the fair, I was like, oh, fuck, there, that 300 goes. But kind of find out the other dude was the super favorite. And we watched that thing. That was so exhilarated, by the way. It was $1,500. It was just like it came in at the last month.

It was amazing. And I won like $3,500 or something like that for that for that bet. Amazing. Hope he's doing well. hope he's doing well. I think the brewers got this unless they lose tonight. How about that? How's that for fixing?

Yeah, this whole conversation. By the time this comes out, they've already won. They've already won. Congrats to the brewers. Great people over there. Let me just say, what I love about the brewers and the way that they built their team, short kings. Yeah.

Built the entire, I think they're the shortest team in baseball. Taking advantage of the new ABS system that's actually measuring the strike zone properly for each player. that's how you get it done. Short Kings, 5-9, across the board. But there is something to be said about how they built a team. Oh, yeah. In this new age, like, they, it's like old school.

They develop their players rather than just getting everybody from free agency. They had a bit, some big, which I'm, Contrars, I don't think it was like a huge free agent pickup. It was big. And now looking back at it, it was. But like at the time, was it like a blockbuster. It was cool. But like they developed their players. They drafted their players.

they did those international signings. They built a roster and developed them. And to me, this is why you see in the dominance that they have. Because they built them. I mean, PFT, imagine they've already won the World Series, as we discussed. They have the number one prospect and baseball waiting. They have another two or three that are going to be awesome. This could be a dynasty.

Dynasty loading right now. It's all built off. It's already over. They've already won. Built off small ball. Cooper Pratt last. He's a rookie. Cooper Pratt.

Like, I've seen him develop throughout the, course of this year where I was like real shaky on him. But like to see him step up in that moment and see how good a play he has been having over the playoffs, it's exciting to be a young Brewer fan. As we discussed, they've already won the World Series. But like, can you imagine being Cooper Pratt? You had a go-ahead home run in the 12th inning of the World Series, the greatest moment you could ever hope to have in the game of baseball, up 3-0, and then you don't win the series? Like, can you imagine that happening? It's almost like you weigh. did that home run.

Well, no, I'm saying, not win the game, fine, whatever. But if they, if they don't win the series, I mean, he thought he had just won the World Series. That's a moment that will be lost, yeah. Yeah. That'd be crazy, but they already won, so. They are, they are a fun team.

I like, they're like a, it's easy, I think, for people to compare them to the athletics in terms of like the Billy Bean undervalued type of player thing that they got going on. but they're so much more fun than that athletic because they're actually athletic they they hit they don't just walk they get on true getting on base is a priority for them

but they do that by getting hits and then running the bases some people say aggressive I would say intelligently they do have a former MVP in their lineup they have one of the best catchers in baseball they have a young superstar leading off Like they have plenty of talent.

Yeah, they're very talented. But I also think that they, the way that the team has been coached is, is very interesting and it's different from what we see across the league. And it's fun. To me, this is like, these games have been awesome. These are the type of baseball games that I like to watch. So good for the Brewers, world champions. Yeah.

Unless they lost, in which case, the rays are probably going to come back and win the whole thing. If I think game five is the series Whoever wins game five is is the World Series champ What do you think about the crowd down at the drop? I mean it makes Brewers fans look good Sure does I say mostly Brewers fans are well I mean It's because the tickets are so cheap

How much were cheaper? You could get in for like 700 bucks It's not bad for it's cheaper It was cheaper to fly to from Milwaukee to Tampa and get a ticket than to get a ticket in Milwaukee No way that's crazy They still have I saw this morning they had like 1,500 tickets still available for tonight.

Not secondary, like from the raise. I could probably pull up, gee. You won't. You'd have to leave right now. If you left right now, you can make it. My body, my body needs to relax. I did that for the World Series in 21. But I went so hard for game one that my body is still like,

hey, it's still like, hey, we need some time. Might not, though, because if we win the night, I'm going in. on. Yeah. I'll put in some calls. If I can, if I can make some shake, I'm not just going to stand on the side. You want to be in the parade. I need, I need to lead that motherfucker. No, I'm just joking. But I don't know. I'll ask if we can get in there somehow. But if not, you know, it's all good. You remember the Braves parade in 21? Do you remember what they did? No. Well, because the ballpark's not downtown anymore. Right. So they're like, we're going to do half the parade downtown. And then we're going to drive the floats down the

interstate and go up to the ballpark and then do the rest of the parade. They flew through downtown Atlanta. They were going 40 miles an hour. Yeah. And then they were on the interstate going up to the ballpark and they had the cameras live and they're flying down 75. Did police escort there? Yeah.

That's awesome. But they were during the part they were going downtown, they weren't, you know, they're supposed to be going five miles an hour. They were going 30. They just whipped right through it. Yeah. They didn't get it. Didn't give downtown Atlanta fair shake.

Yeah. I love the Cleveland Cavaliers World Series parade. That was great. The Miami. World Series, Cavs? The NBA Championship Parade, yeah. It was, yeah. And then comparing that with, like, the Miami Parade when the Heat won was so funny.

Yeah. It's hard. I feel like certain cities just aren't, like, geographically equipped for parade sometimes. True. Like the calves where the arena is and where they had the parade route. Like that, it makes sense just like in a parade format, I guess. Like, I always think about when like if, when New York wins a championship, like, it's so hard, I feel like to get everyone in the same place in like downtown Manhattan. Yeah.

Or like, like, Atlanta, if you're not in this, in the right area of the city, Cavs had it, Cavs had it pretty much perfectly set up. I want to say something nice about. Boston. They got it made there. They know how to do parades. Well, they do a million. They've got a lot of practice. They do the duck boats, the whole thing. Good parade town. Good parade town when you have a lot of parade town. Yeah. I would say DC would be a good parade town. You guys, again, also have a lot of motorcade practice. Oh, yeah. The roads are built terribly. Yeah, they're very confusing roads. It's a poorly managed or designed city. It was designed to

Like look aerially good, right? Yes. And also designed by freemasons to have like a bunch of Freemason symbology in the roads, the way they connect. That's actually a real thing. I know it sounds like some national treasure type shit, but that's real if you look at the map. But they do have Constitution Avenue, which is that's a perfect parade street. It's actually, it's maybe the best parade street in the country. Which street is that?

They're going to change it to Trump Avenue. Are they trying to? I don't know if you're joking. I wouldn't surprise me. I was fucking around. No, it's the one that goes kind of in between. You've got the downtown mall on your right. If you're going into the city, it has like, it's got the Washington monument right there.

And then the White House is on your left. And as you go down, you get close to the Capitol, which is going to be on your right. It's just a straight shot. So along the mall, you're saying? Along the mall. And the best part of that road is sometimes when you drive home from D.C. at night going into Virginia, you could sync up the traffic lights just right on the drive home and they would turn green for you as you drove down all of Constitution Avenue.

It was almost like the gate, just like being lifted for you at every light. It was awesome. It's maybe my favorite memory. The only good memory of DC traffic was hitting those lights correctly. But yeah, I think that would be a great parade town. Let's have some more parades there. Milwaukee, that town is just going to be drunk. If you win a World Series on a win,

Wednesday. Just, you're not going back to work that week. Like the whole town. You have Thursday and Friday off. And then probably parade Saturday? Yeah, Saturday or Sunday. I give, I am hereby declaring if you live in Milwaukee, you do not have to go to work on Thursday and Friday if the Brewers just won. Well, if they win tonight, Wednesday.

And if they have the parade Saturday, then that's also Halloween. Oh, a Halloween parade? No, you got to save the parade for Monday. Give a nice five-day weekend. Yeah, sure. Go for it. They're just drawing it out as long as possible. Yeah, they deserve it.

Let Milwaukee have some fun. God damn, they never have fun, those Milwaukee people. Yeah, they're too uptight. No, it's been an entertaining postseason. That's why I kind of don't want it to end. Because afterwards, who knows what's going to happen. I know. Last night, even though it didn't go the way for,

Aryan like last time was an awesome game yeah yeah and then it makes you sad when you think about

two years from now what do you think it's going to happen what's in two years or we won't see it for two years possible oh that it'll be fine they're going into a lockout

this all season yeah they don't even have like usually at this point in a CBA negotiation they would at least have some sort of temporary agreement called like the status quo agreement that would at least buy you a little bit more time and say in the interim we're just going to have everything operating like it's been operating while we negotiate what the next CBA is going to be they don't they don't even have one of those in place so it's what is it like early December yeah I think December 1st it starts and then what's some of the what's some of the main disagreements I assume the The owners want a salary cap.

That's the main one. I'm sure there are other ancillary things. They won an international draft instead of the way the current system works. Salary cap is 90% of it. Yeah. Because the owners want a salary cap. There have been some discussion of if there's a salary cap. There has to be a salary floor.

What would those two numbers be? But overall, the players don't want to say, They don't want to agree to a salary cap because they don't want to be known as the group that made that concession like 40 years from now. If the pendulum has become swung way over to the side in favor of the owners, they don't want to be known as ones that that gave all that leverage to the owners in a league that famously did not have a salary cap. And they said, okay, we'll let you put one in, which I understand. I get that position. Agreed, but what would incentivize the players to walk that back of it and there is no lead been? If there was a very high salary floor.

So like the minimum spend that each team had to do. Because there are a lot of teams that don't spend. That would have to step up big time if they put in a salary floor. I mean, depending obviously on what that floor would be. But we can safely assume that any floor that would be. be in danger of being accepted by the players would be way higher than the lowest spending payrolls at what they're at currently. They probably have to be tied into revenue. The thing is the owners, they don't, we don't know what the books look like. We don't know how much revenue they're bringing

in. We don't know because they have, a lot of them have different businesses that are tied into the stadium or into the areas around the stadium and they can move money around and shuffle things. So we don't truly know how much money the owners of the teams are making based off of the games and based off of the players. And until they give like an honest assessment of that, it's just kind of like they're threatening. You have to trust us that we're losing money. And if, oh, if you don't agree to what we're saying, then we're just going to shut the game down. Which, hey, if the situation is that dire, let us look at everything. Make it public. Let, let people know, especially if you have a stadium that was partially paid for or fully paid for by taxpayers, they have a right to know

before, like, just in the interest of public opinion, if you're going to be shutting down the entire sport. Because that's a liability that cities have to take into account is if we're going to be giving you X amount of tax revenue or tax breaks, tax incentives, there's also a chance that you just might decide to stop playing games in the next five years. And then if that happens, then now we're losing money. So I do think that they owe it to the customers and just to the public to show what the true revenues are, not just ticket sales, all that shit. I mean, the money that they're making off the team in totality, the restaurants,

the real estate that immediately surrounds the stadium, TV rights, all that shit. Every single part of it, it needs to be public. And if that, in that case, it's an unsustainable business model, then it's time to have a conversation about what can be done to fix it. But we can't just go based off of the owners being like, hey, we're going to run out of money. So you better take less money. Trust me, bro.

Yeah. Doesn't work like that, in my opinion. So that's what the stalemates going to try to solve. And I don't think anything's going to change until they start missing games. Because once they start missing games, then the revenue issue becomes real for the players. they start missing paychecks and the owners start missing out on ticket revenue.

And at that point, we'll see who blinks first. I mean, I don't think anybody's ever said it more eloquent, man. Good job. That's just, I don't know. It gets me fired up thinking about like these labor issues in sports because it's, I feel like the American public gets taken to the cleaners a lot. And the owners of most of the teams don't really care. It's a business for them.

It's just a woke lib tard. You know, you know. It's that, I don't think that makes me woke though. I think that makes me a realist of, like, that's the situation that we're in. If you want to be in favor of, like, big business and you hope that these guys make a lot of money, God bless you. Good luck with that. But they're not going to take your opinions into account when they make decisions about moving teams or taking tax money from your city. They don't give a fuck about that.

But they're the ones taking all the risk. Are the people that run the team? there's zero risk in owning a professional sports team. It's one of the most safe businesses that you can be in in terms of places to park your money and guarantee yourself of massive amounts of recurring revenue. Yeah, but they bought it. That's a risk in itself.

And they provide so much jobs. Yeah, they do provide a lot of jobs. That's true. Yeah. But there's somebody else would buy the team if that owner didn't buy the team. Yeah. No, I wish I could argue it further. Can't. Yeah. It's, uh... The only team that you can't see what they make is the Braves, which are basically just a real estate company now, because they make $100 million a year off the battery.

Yep. And then still losing the NLDS every season. When you say off the battery, what is the battery? The battery is the mixed use development, uh, outside of, I guess you didn't go go, go out there really. It's in the outfield of Truis Park and it's got bars and restaurants and shops and stuff out there and apartments and they make nine figures a year off of that and the Braves are now publicly traded so we can see their revenue from both baseball and that and they make not as much but a ton of money off of that and you know as long as people are filling the

ballpark and go into the bars like if they win great if they don't whatever people are still in the apartment top five ballpark stadiums I've been to by the way the Braves it's really good that motherfucker was smooth shout up to your man's for having me out

yeah had a good time yeah big T do you see it being pretty much a certainty that there's going to be a stoppage it seems that way but I mean

I find it very difficult to imagine that in a time where baseball is doing better than it has in a decade or more, it seems like, that they would stall that momentum for something that, like the 1994 thing, like there are people who never recovered from that. They're like, I just, I stopped caring about baseball. I never watched again. So like, I find, they'll figure something out.

They have to. Maybe. There's a stoppage. that just means that we're going to get more steroids in baseball four years from now. Wow. That's what saved baseball. That's what brought people back after the strike in 94. Baseball, it was like Calrican Jr's streak and then the home run chase.

Those are the two things that made people start caring about baseball again after the strike. This is different because this would be, I think technically this would be a lockout, not a strike. It was harder, I think, for the players to sell that to the public back in 1994 of being like, hey, we're millionaires, but we want more money. This would be a lockout, so it's a little bit different. But, yeah, that also, that season that robbed the Expos. Expos had a great team, 1994. They were going to win the NL East. Vlad, Pedro.

Yeah. Yeah, they had a great squad and just stole. stole that championship, potential championship away from the city of Montreal. Terrible. Also, this week, we saw the Internet Invitational. Episode one came out on Tuesday. I believe episode two is dropping today Thursday. The match that I had, that's my small part of it, I was paired up with Calix.

I don't know if you guys know him. He's part of the sideman extended universe over in England. Are you familiar with him? I know who they are. I'm not as familiar with their work. Yeah, great dude. Really enjoyed playing with him. We were both kind of the shittiest golfers on our team.

So they paired us up together to get our ass kicked. So that wasn't a lot of fun knowing that we were just kind of rolled out there to lose. But we did a good job. We did our role. So we were going up against Tooms and against Josh Richards. And Josh is a pretty good player. But this dude from New Zealand. Zealand is just unreal.

I think he's a plus five handicap. And so... What's his name? Tumes. Oh, Tumes. Yeah. So we played against him in the first round. And they showed a couple of the holes.

But I don't think they... I was really proud of how we played, me and Callan, in the opening round, because we were probably, if you did it on paper, we were supposed to lose like five after five holes, maybe six holes. But if you... Plus five. Plus five, plus seven. Why are you in shit like this?

Well, his job is, like he's a YouTube golfer. How is the score set up? I haven't watched it. But it just feels like plus five is that you, you, you balling. Yeah. Like, that's like you approaching like corn fairy type shit. That's the thing. It's like, so like, but the corn fairy players

are better, like they are better than a normal plus five. There's a gap. Yeah, I'm saying you're approaching that. Is what I'm saying? It's like, if you, like, beating up on five handicapped, 10 handicapped. I don't know. I'm a 17 handicap. I was 17.

And Calix was a 20 handicap, and we went into a match against Tooms, a plus five handicap. And then Josh Richards, I think Josh is probably like a 10, maybe. I don't know, somewhere in that. It may be better. He's gotten pretty good. So we were just absolutely fucked. We had zero chance, but we were fighting.

And we tied them up after the second hole. And we had a couple shots that just lipped out. And we could have been up one, maybe two holes after like four, but it was even. And so we were like, we were giving them everything that we possibly could, playing the best golf that we know how. And then there was this one hole, and it was a long drive hole. And they like measure the distance, and then the longest drive of the day gets a prize or something. So I step up and I hit my best drive of the day. And I felt so good about it.

And I was like, all right, let's go. Let's go. We can do this. We can beat them. And then Tombstead steps up. He hits his. And then they announced the measurements. I think my drive was 304 yards.

And I was like, fuck yeah. And Tooms, your drive 363 yards. And at that point, I was like, I can't win. It's impossible for me to beat this guy, no matter how good I play. This is fucked up. That's fucked up that you did that, Tooms. Playing entirely different sport. Completely different sports.

So, yeah, I had a lot of fun playing with Calix. And, yeah, it was a good time out there. Our team did. Although I do play with a scratch. I play with the scratch who consisted of it gets out there. drove by everybody we play with almost everybody we play with 20 30 yards and he'd be whooping everybody else just because he consisted in other places but i mean if you're a plus by you you all facets of your game are on point yeah yeah you're you're just you're operating

on a completely different level that's like every every month or so like you shooting like a 65 or something like that crazy that's nasty So this guy, Toombs, I'm just looking at some of the background on him. He, I guess, previously played on the PGA tour of Australasia, and he was on the China tour as well. So, yeah, he was a former professional golfer. That's how he made his money. It was just strictly playing golf.

You know how you live, I guess. Yep. But it was fun. That's such a good course, man. All the courses out there. Well, where did y'all play? It was in the Ozarks. I don't know

in Missouri. It's Paynes Valley was one of the courses that we played on. Is that what the TV show said? Buffalo, yeah. Nice. Big Cedar Lodge,

yeah, it's all the course around. I'm trying to remember the names of the other ones. I want to say like Buffalo Ridge was one. Paines Valley. I forget the others. Cliffhangers is the par three courts out there.

It's an awesome place. There's so many good courses that are. By the way, Branson, Missouri. kind of a fun place. I've heard it called the Redneck Riviera before. How many places are called the Redneck Riviera? Because there's like 10. Myrtle Beach, Panama City.

Yeah. I guess Branson, Missouri. I will say this. As somebody that went to Myrtle Beach a few times growing up and has been to Panama City a couple times, Branson, Missouri shits on both of them. In terms of being more redneck or being better? Better. It's also...

Then it's not the redneck Riviera. But it's also very redneck. It's just better. I know what you're saying. But yeah, Branson, Missouri,

interesting place. They've got the Titanic Museum there. Again, I feel there's one of those in Gatlinburg. Yeah. All these places run the same playbook. This is a place that has the giant Magistore. You did send me a picture of that last year. Yeah.

I'm assuming there's great. mini golf. Outstanding mini golf. Yeah. Outstanding. How's Maga doing these days? I've seen some polls that don't look great. I guess we'll find out in a week.

We are. So the return of J&N. Coming back. Do you have any projections for us for next Tuesday? Just that we're going to have a lot of fun. Okay. Yeah. That's what you can project.

We're having our big production meeting tomorrow. So we'll see what, well, I've got some ideas. Big T has made the call. A 100% chance of fun. Based on the exit polls. Jerry was loving to call states really early two years ago. So we'll see if he is as gung-ho for the midterms. Yeah.

I think this, it won't, we can never recreate what happened two years ago just because it was a presidential election and how it played out. But Jerry legitimately does not know like what the midterms. are. Like, so I think this has the potential to be very funny. There's no way. I mean, he knows that there's an election going on, but he doesn't know. Like, we're going to have to explain everything to him. So I think it could be really fun. Didn't you have to explain the electoral college to him? He had the gist of it.

How does one get the gist of the electoral college? He knew, you know, the states and everything. But we, yeah, we're going to, off the top, we're going to run through a quick little debrief on what's going to. on for Jerry. Just top of your head. What do we think about the Senate race in Maine? I haven't seen any polls. Give me a red blue. Red, I guess, just because she's been there for so long, but do you have any polls on that? I saw some polls come out today. I don't, I don't really trust the polls. I think that that's kind of been proven for the last, what, 12 years, is that the polls can give you sometimes a direction of the way things are going.

But ultimately, I don't know that they're as accurate as we thought that they would be. Most of these, I mean, they're all within the margin of error, but most of these that I'm seeing have Jackson, the Democratic candidate, up a point or two. But I mean, that's, you know, that doesn't really matter. Negligible. It all depends on turnout. Okay, what about Texas, red or blue? I think that could be bad.

I think that could be blue. You think that's going to change? Texas is going to go blue? Really? Yeah, I'd need to look at those polls too, but just gut feeling. I want to give Donald Trump credit for something. The way that he talks about Houston's is hilarious. He loves that guy.

He wants to fuck him. He was talking about checking out. He loves me. Yeah, yeah. He was literally talking about checking out his ass. Like, I like to check this guy's ass out. Twice. Yeah.

It's become, because he gets a laugh off. Like, he tries out a bunch of stuff, some new material. He's been really riffing. thing recently. Yeah. So he'll throw a bunch of stuff out there. It's like a comedian when they're working on their next, uh, the next special. And then he, he figures out what the crowd reacts to. And then he'll go back to that. The crowd love the talk about Houston's ass. So he's gone back to that a few times. And then an absolute banger yesterday talking about how he's been, he's been looking at Houston. And ever since he's been complimenting his body and his physique, he's gone up in the

polls because Trump is just talking about how sexy is. And then Trump's like, I thought maybe I could try that with, uh, with Ken Paxton, but then I thought, nah, probably won't work. He's just, just roasting him. It's like he forget sometimes like his, the whole thing is like he has to endorse somebody and act like he means it, but he just can't do that with a guy like Ken. He has to remind Ken like, hey, Ken, you're ugly. And then Ken's just backstage, just like his face turning bright red. Oh, like can he, why can he talk about me like he talks about Houston. Did you see Trump's clip yesterday about the meat? I did see. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Aaron, did you see that? It did come across my timeline. Yeah. I think, I mean,

what was he talking about? I didn't look up context of that. There's only so much context that I can research. I'm just going to laugh at it. Be like I, he's, he's playing, he's developed some new material. He's playing hits for the crowd. I think that, yeah, Ken Paxton, I agree big T. And I'm not even saying that Tala Rico is going to be like a star or he's got like potential to be anything beyond like a replacement senator. I think that he's very well spoken. And I think that he is able to communicate things that historically have not been able to be communicated in Texas, which is a skill. So credit him for that. I just think that Ken Baxter is like the worst person in Texas that they could.

It's like they went out and tried to find the worst guy that they could nominate. And then they're like, okay, let's see if we can make this guy win. I can make anybody win. It's like the plot of, was the Eddie Murphy movie? Was it trading? I always trading places where Mortimer and his buddy are like, I can take that homeless guy and I can make him a millionaire or stock trader or whatever. Trump was like, I bet you I could take old crooked eye Paxton. and I could have him become a U.S. Senator.

I don't know that that's going to work out. Yeah, so we have five or six races that we're going to really be focusing on during the stream. I think we have some good guests coming, so it'll be fun. What are the other big races that you're locked in on? Michigan Senate, Georgia and Ohio governor. You mentioned Ohio Senate with Houston, and then Texas and Maine. Those are our big ones that we're focusing on. What is your gut telling you on Michigan Senate?

I don't know, man. It seems like Al-Sayed might win. I don't. Yeah, I don't know. I think he might too. And there's also something that came out in the news yesterday that Scott Jennings, the guy on CNN, he's being sued. You see that?

70 million? Yeah. By Hassan. Hassan has filed a lawsuit against him. for, I guess, defamation, slander. Rote, and it stems from a clip that Scott Jennings shared saying that Hassan is calling for black Americans to be lynched. And it was like a compilation video of clips that were strung back to back to back from Hassan.

It was clearly edited. And I think Scott probably, he definitely knew it was edited. And so it's going to be a test of like what would be considered damaging to Assan's reputation. Can you prove that he acted with malice or extreme disregard for the facts? And I think it's the same lawyers that filed the Dominion lawsuit against Fox News. So yeah, that'll be interesting to see. I've seen Scott Jennings recently. Has he been pulled off the air?

I thought he might have been under consideration for the next press secretary. I believe he was very upset when he was not. chosen for the press secretary role over Katie Zachariah, may she rest in peace. Yeah. Because he's on the CNN version of the five, I think. And they all were kind of throwing like weird jabs being like if only there was a competent person that could be press secretary and like rolling their eyes and he was

rolling his eyes. Yeah. I look at him with the same general feeling. that I would have for what's his name? Why am I forgetting the guy's name? Hang on. It'll come to me. It'll come to me. Describe him.

No, because once I say it, it's going to be, oh, James Carville. Bald Cajun. Oh, it was going to be my dad, James Carvel. The same general feeling of trustworthiness, which is their job, their entire life, Scott Jennings and James Carville,

has been to get their guys elected any way possible, including admitting to lying about things and playing dirty tricks. Scott Jennings has openly talked about it about how working on campaigns, this is the stuff that he's done. And James Carville has done the same.

So it's like, why would you actually believe that they believed anything that they would say beyond the fact that it's them trying to further advance some agenda? So I don't really trust him when he talks at all. In the same way, I don't really trust James Carville in the way that he talks at all. But Jim Scarville is funny. Scott Jennings is, he was on CNN last night, it seems.

So he's still. Still on the air. Yeah, he's still going out there. Still on the air. He was upset about Obama's Cheesecake Factory comment. I wanted to talk about that because that's big controversy in politics. Is Cheesecake Factory a restaurant that is worth defending with your blood? Obama, you know, he's not running for anything so he can say whatever he wants.

If you're a politician running for office, I don't know that you go after the Cheesecake Factory, unless you're running in New York City or something. Why in New York City? Well, though that crowd is not going to get offended that you took a jab at the Cheesecake Factory. If you're running in Iowa, I wouldn't do it. I don't know that people have like this hardcore attachment to the Cheesecake Factory. I think it's a proxy for like a, it's a way of, life thing. These political elites are coming after the cheesecake factory. They don't care about

the common man. But the cheesecake factory is not like, okay, I know what you're saying, Big T, I know what you're saying. I'm not saying I believe that. I'm saying that that's a, that's something that people could think. Cheesecake factory is an expensive place. Like, it's not like Cheesecake Factory is a restaurant buying for the masses. I think it's typically viewed as a pretty middle class place to go. Let's look at the way too many options. Menu prices, cheesecake fact. And don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed some great meals at cheesecake factory.

I never once thought of it being... I believe it's going through a renaissance. You know, it's crazy. I've never been. Really? Never been to one. I think you're... Based on your affinity for a chain upscale restaurants, you would really like it.

I think I would. I would. I've just never been to one. $30 cheese steak? Yeah, like it's like where you went for your birthday. in your suburban town is how i think about it so i guess obama said that that trump has been decorating the white house like sudam hussein like saddam hussein would decorate a cheesecake factory so really the i don't think it was as much a slam on cheesecake factory as it was like

an observation of like if saddam hussein ran a cheesecake factory that's what it would look like with all the golden shit everywhere scott jennings said that bill clinton turned the Oval Office into Hugh Hefner's bedroom and that he's criticizing Donald Trump. Wait, who did that? Bill Clinton, he said. And then he talked about Obama's library. Also, by the way, completely valid criticism. Like if Bill Clinton was like making fun of Donald Trump for desecrating the Oval Office,

completely valid criticism to be like, dude, you're getting blowjobs there from your 21-year-old intern while you were on the phone doing Senate deals. That is a completely valid criticism Do we know what he was on the phone for at the time? I think he was talking to Bob Dole. The poor, we don't talk about that enough. How did we note it? We noticed? I think so.

I think he was on the phone with Bob Dole who, Bob Dole couldn't get it up. He was a, he was a, uh, one of the early, uh, spokespersons for Viagra. How would we confirm this? I think it might have been in the Kinstar report. I'm not sure. but like talk about rubbing it in. You're getting head while you're on the phone

with a guy that can't even get a boner. That's tough. I'm not seeing anywhere that it's confirmed. Records in the Star Report excerpts noted that during an evening at the White House when Lewinsky was present from 938 to 1039 p.m. Clinton had a phone conversation with Representative Sonny Callahan. Oh, okay.

From 9.53 to 1014. Okay. That's a long phone call. Sonny Callahan was a Democrat from Alabama. Callahan Auto Parts. Yep. I would say that the criticism of Obama's library, I would say it's a, I don't think it's a, you're not comparing apples to apples.

One is the White House. And the other is something that he made himself for himself, about himself, which I agree. I don't think, I think it looks really, really weird. At least from the outside. It was a boomer joke anyway. What, the cheesecake one?

Yeah, I mean, I wouldn't have laughed at it. I wouldn't have paid no attention to it. Yeah. Greg Gutfeld apparently was upset about the cheesecake factory comment. What do you say? Don't go after the cheesecake factory. It's a clip. I haven't watched the whole thing, but. Greg, who?

Gutfeld. You're familiar with Gutfeld? The five. Just typed him in. Yeah, I know this guy. but I unfortunately know this guy I don't think that anybody

actually cares about this nobody gets this I think that the people that are it's fun to have something to get bad about I gotta get to a cheesecake factory it's not bad the food's good it's cool

you're gonna go you're gonna leave well yeah but I love a good chain I like chains cool I'm saying if you go I mean, yeah, I'm sure it's, it's not, but let's see what the nearest is cool. It is, um, it's good.

There's a lot of butter, a lot of cream. It's really bad for you. There's just, there's so many options is, is why I'm not too fond of it. It's like you ever seen them, you see the movie signs with Mel Gibson? Yep. You know, when he decides to finally try to take control the situation and his kids are floundering and he's like, I'm going to make everybody what they want. What do you want?

Spaghetti. What do you want? What do you want? What do you want? Pancake. So he makes six different meals that are entirely different genres. That's the cheesecake factory. What is fascinating to me is I'm looking at a picture of the inside of the cheesecake factory in Chicago.

And my immediate thought was this does look like some sort of sheikh's palace. Yep. So. I've seen amounts of like gold montages and pillars. I got to get there. The joke was on point. And the one in Chicago is underground. See, I got to check it up.

Really? You want to go? I'd be down to go. It's next to a habachi place. Yeah, we got to go. Down on Michigan, like right below the Sears Tower. And it's, you're on the street level, and then you, like, walk downstairs into it. Texting my wife right now, meet me at cheesecake at 5 o'clock. I already told you all about taking them a hose to the cheesecake factory, letting them a hose order strawberry, lemonade, popcorn, shrimp.

They ain't going to do nothing but try to take all your cheese. Drake? Why you got to fight with me at Cheesecake? You know I love to go there? You don't know that one? I do not. I don't know that one. I just know Drake talking. That's outcast.

We love these hose. That's what the lyrics from it. Taking them hose to the Cheesecake Factory. What track is this? We love these hose. What track is that? I think it's stanchonia. I don't recall this line.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. We love these hose. Ha, ha, ha, ha. You know that song? I don't think I do. You got some listening assignments. Oh, dear, homie. Or, Aaron, you know the Drake's song about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What song, though? It's called We Love These Hoes. It's on stankonia, I think. I forgot. This had 24 tracks. Yeah. That's the most famous

Cheesecake Factory lyric reference that I think has ever been done. Chicken and waffle skewers. They've got everything. Cheddar cheese and green chili waffle. Yeah. I don't think it's, though. I'm just scrolling through.

The chicken cassoletta, I believe is the name of it, is like their big thing. And then you sub out, I believe it's mashed potatoes for angel hit pasta and you get extra sauce. That's what the people are doing on TikTok now. The new thing on TikTok is people ordering the whole entire menu and it becomes a series of like I'm ranking every single thing at cheesecake factory and it's like a 15 part series because there's so many items.

I got a little depressed last night because have y'all seen this Michael Jackson do on TikTok? No. I've heard about him. I have yet to see him. It's my side of the culture. But I assume because he's so big on TikTok, y'all over and ran across him. But so he has a face filter that is Michael Jackson, but he's just like one of the funniest dudes.

Like you can like just hilarious. And his comebacks are wittiest shit. Anywho, he goes live like almost every night. And he came across my feed on Twitter a lot of times. And it's just he just hasn't missed. He's hilarious. And so that got me on TikTok. So that's the only, I don't, I have.

have a TikTok, just like my kid said me something, but I'm never on it. But like I go on his live every now and then to watch it. He's funny as shit. I think he's extremely talented. This has got his foot in the door and I'm looking forward to see what he does. But very funny dude. But then the 4U page gets to popping up, right? And then the live, like you see who else is live? It that I was very depressed going through my live TikTok algorithm. It's just I don't even have a point to this, but it's just an insane amount of people with an audience, like trying to get other people's attention.

I just got really, really depressed. Like, this is fucking sad. People arguing on there. You go, somebody's selling watches. You flip somebody's selling cards. You flip somebody's playing video game. It's just like, I had just like midlife crisis moment. Like, what are we doing as a society?

Hard pivot. But I just got very depressed. But y'all should check out this Michael Jackson dude. His name's Luce Cannon. Okay. Very talented. Very talented cat. Funny as hell.

Like, witty-ass comebacks, hilarious. I'm going to have to check him out. Promise you'll like him. I'm still just scrolling the menu. You're still going through it? Yeah. I'm saying so many options, though. I'm in the pastas.

It's a decent menu. Yeah, I might head to the factory tonight. I'll report back. It looks like Tyrese Halliburton left hamstring injury, and he's going to be out for a while. That's unfortunate. Too many injuries already this year. We didn't talk to you speaking of the NBA.

We didn't talk to you about your first Wizards game of the year. Oh, yeah, that was fun. Mr. Washington, Wizards getting mic up. That was fun. That was a great time at the Wizards game. Home opener, season opener. That was great against the Bucks. Are your seats such that you enter through like the play?

players entrance anyway or they did that for you special? They did that for me special. Got it. To take pictures of the tunnel entrance or whatever. The walk. Nice. Yeah. No, the Wizards, everybody behind the scenes is awesome there.

I think they're still getting used to having like any sort of attention being paid to the team because they've just kind of been toiling and, you know, some pretty bad teams for the last few years by design, but some pretty bad teams. So yeah, they were awesome And I think Wizards games Are going to be exciting for the most part this year And we still haven't seen A.J. DeBanza And right now I think the Wizards lead the NBA in dunks Even without the first overall pick

Who's going to be like getting to the hoop a lot. So yeah, I'm excited about this team. Anthony Davis looks like he's back to some prime AD stuff. It is October. It is October. Give it a couple months. It is October. He was looking at it.

He made me nervous because he was looking at his hand after the, I think it was the Raptors game maybe. He just kept staring down at his hand at the end of the game. And everybody was like, oh, shit, does he hurt? And then after the game, he was like, now it was just shooting so well. My hand was on fire. So I was checking and make sure that there wasn't any smoke coming off of it.

Which is a great thing to say unless you're AD and you have a history of hurting your hands. But yeah, it can be fun. It can be fun. Cavs tonight. And then NBA Cup starts on Friday. Wow. Yeah. Because it's the cup.

All right. Do we want to get into any octopus murder stuff? I was hesitant on letting this fly. To that I was asking y'all, right? Because there's still so many, no pun intended, tentacles to this story. There's still so much to uncover that I have. I feel like the deeper you read into the more, like the deeper goes. That's kind of the thing of it.

Yeah, it drives you insane if you get too deep into it. We just give like a general background. I don't want to get to, I am of the perfect depth into it to know what I feel like I need to know. And if I go too much deeper, they'll try to kill me. I think I'm at the perfect depth. It's a good, it's a juicy one. So I guess it all starts with a guy named Danny Casillero. And he died in 1991.

in Martinsburg, West Virginia. And he had, he was in a hotel and he was in a bathtub and he had a bunch of slashes on his wrists. I think what, like a dozen? To the point that it severed his tendons in his arm. Like pretty crazy. Yeah. Pretty crazy stuff. And before he was found, he was talking to a lot of friends and family about how he's got this massive, massive,

story. There's a conspiracy that he's been digging into, and he's very close to breaking it wide open. And so people thought to themselves, maybe this guy didn't actually kill himself. So the conspiracy loosely is tied into the Iran-Contra scandal, the election of that year when Ronald Reagan took office and, uh, and, uh, and B. Carter and it's also tied into the collapse of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International. So the general idea behind all this is there was a... I had a little funny moment too because like the presidential scandals back then Reagan and Carter were like you didn't handle a hostage situation correctly.

Like nowadays it's like you slept with a point. star and try to pay her off or Cheesecake Factory, you're kind of demeaning the prices of it's like, this shit is wild the change in the time. It is crazy. By the way, I was looking at the prices at the cheesecake factory and you're right, they're not cheap. Not a cheap

place. Yeah, it's not, we're not, this isn't Cracker Barrel. Right. Right. This is, this is a, we're a different league here. That is actually probably the one. If a politician said something bad about Cracker Barrel, people would actually be mad. Yeah. And I would be more inclined to be like,

people have a point. Crackerberry, outstanding establishment. Lebanon, Tennessee. There you go. Wilson County. Have they completely gone back on the redesign? Yeah, no, we're all the way back. Okay, good, good.

They did that quick. Yeah. It's the only place where I play that little triangle game, where you hop over things. It's the only place I've ever seen it. Yeah, it's the only place I've been around for a while. That was like our era toys. but since then, crack bro is the only place I've played again.

What is that game called? I think it's just a peg. Yeah, the peg game. Peg game, yeah. Here there's a name for it. Get yourself some goo clusters. Oh, the store, the old country store. Yeah.

Moon pies. If they came after Waffle House, that would start a revolution. Yeah, I mean, if you're a politician in the South and you said something bad about Waffle House, you may as well just, that's career suicide. Yeah, just leave. It's called Tricky Triangle or Peg Solitaire.

Okay. I don't like Tricky Triangle. That's demeaning to the game. It is, I agree. Tricky Triangle is something. That sounds like a new age. Yeah. Try to rebrand it.

You a moon pie guy? I don't mind. I don't mind them. They're overreed. I don't love them, but yeah. I don't love those answers. You love them? A chocolate moon pie?

Yeah. Yeah, I love a moon pie. I would say I love it. I'm also out of sweets guy. My sweets, you can take my sweets takes is, I don't really like sweets. It takes a special sweet to,

like the Peterbird cups. Yes. I'm more of a little Debbie guy. Little Debbie over moon pies. Well, their scarcity is what makes them, if they were more readily available, probably wouldn't like them as much.

Yeah. I thought Little Debbie was the name of like the company that makes snakes. They do, yeah. I'm just saying like the everything. The zebra can, cakes, oatmeal cream pies. Yeah. Okay.

Cosmic brownies, Christmas trees. I like all of them. I like all of them. Ho-ho's. Deeper cakes is top too. So good. I forget if I said it on the show and out. You know they do Christmas tree ice cream now. Yeah, you did tell me that.

Yeah. I still haven't tried that. I have to get some. We're a month away. Yeah. That's, I'm looking forward to that. Month of all right. My lights go up November 2nd.

Uh, but you're getting rid of one of the best months. You're skipping straight to December. I have a good reason. I get a discount. I get like a $600 discount if I do it November 2nd. So fuck it. They're going up. You're saying on the outside of your house?

Yeah. Okay. The people that you pay. The company every year. Yeah. So they come and they put them up and then they take them down after Christmas. After New Year. Do you put your tree up at the same time or wait for that?

I'm probably going to wait a little bit November 2nd is a little early for Christmas shit Well I take that back It's never too early for you I'm in the Christmas food now Because it's because it's a little overcast And it's a little cool

I'm feeling Christmassy But I'll probably Probably mid-November Yeah it's up Okay that's closer Yeah I remember I went out one time to

Some neighborhood out in Queens That like puts up all their Christmas lights Remember in New York? Did you ever do that? No. There's this one neighborhood that's like, it's famous for having all the decorations up. And they're all done by the same company.

And there's, there's rumors that it might be like, you use a different company. Be real shame if somebody would stop by and break one of your windows. Oh, man. It's like everyone in the neighborhood. But if they're all done by the same company,

that makes it feel less special. I agree. That's like, that's like an astro-turfed. I agree. I agree. And it might have like evolved. Maybe it was just a like homegrown grass roots type of thing and then one company kind of took it over. I don't know. I actually need to find out. Talk to Rico about that. I bet you Rico has some deep intel about that. That'd be a good Bosco industries. It would be. Oh yeah. Christmas lights. Hanging, hanging lights. Yeah. I like that. Or selling trees. I don't know that Rico was cut out for tree sales. You don't think he can make it? takes a certain type of personality to be a successful Christmas tree salesman.

I don't, no disrespect to Rico. He's really good at other stuff. How'd you do? I was the best. The best. I was the best. Still am. In what radius?

I'd say all of Fairfax County. Okay. Which is one of the most populated counties. Yeah. Like it's a big county. I was the volume, not just volume. I'm talking like customer satisfaction, security in terms of how I tied the trees down. the fresh cut that I would give them with a chainsaw,

clean, removal of the bottom branches so it could fit into your stand. White glove service all the way. Okay. Yeah. Kind of miss the game. Sounds like a salesman. You're selling me on how good you were selling them.

Yeah. Yeah, I would. I would. Should color be skeptical. Are you a Fresher fur guy? Are you a Douglas fur guy? What kind of tree we're looking at? I don't know that I give a shit that much.

You're like the ones that make your house smell like Christmas? See, you're working. I'm tying it in. I'm tying your memory into the scent and, yeah, yeah, making it feel Christmassy. His answers are giving me that he's a fake tree guy. Yeah, I'm detecting that too. Oh, yeah, that was a bit.

I can smell a fake tree guy a mile away. Yeah, someone else will be right there to help you, sir. Yeah. So, hold on, you're saying I should get a real tree? Yeah. I've tried this a million. Nobody ever moves off of the fake tree to a real tree. It's because I can put the fake tree back in my garage.

Do the same thing. I'm sure the lights people will come and haul your tree off too. I don't know that that is not the case. I mean, as a tree guy, now you might be selling me. Do you all come in and install it? There are people who will do that. Yeah, I have, I did that for a special. customers. There are some special customers that I would provide that extra level of service to.

But overall, no, my job ended the second you drove off the lot. What happens after that is between you and God. I can be convinced to get a real treat, but I'm not putting that shit up. No. Yeah. I mean, it is, it's a process. You got to water it to deal with it. You got to get, got to get gloves. You got to hoist it in the air. Put it through the door. How you stay. You got to get a stand. You got to put the stint up. No, I'm not doing it. You got to water it. You got to make sure after you get it out, you have to vacuum up all the, all the needles. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah, some guys aren't real tree guys. And that's okay. More for me. I think I found your light company. I'm looking up. I'm trying to find people who would do a tree for you. I'm pretty sure I found the company that does your lights. My assistant takes care of it.

I don't know. Well, I found one that's in where it's not important. Oh yeah, here's a, oh, you can rent a Christmas tree. Rent a real one? We provide fully decorated Christmas tree rentals for homes and businesses across the Houston and surrounding areas. That sounds like a fake, though. Oh, these are fake. You don't want this.

It's nonsense. You'll own nothing and like it. Yeah. You don't even own your own Christmas tree anymore. Disgusting. I've found some good farms in your area, though. There is a tree spot, like half a mile for a while, where I'm at.

It's just the installation. I'm not against a real tree. It's just I can't be bothered with the, it's not I can't be bothered. I'm very lazy when it comes to shit like that. I don't want to pressure you, PFT. I know you're a very busy man. It could be a good video if you and I went out to Houston

and you took Arian to a Christmas tree farm and helped him pick one out. Then we took it and put it in his house. That would be good. He always says we won't go to Houston. I'll make a stop at your barber too. Hey, Barbara will come to the crib for that. Even better.

Yeah. You got a cheesecake factory? Right down a roll. Let's do a 3M1. Mm-hmm. Hell of a video. I remember in Manhattan, you remember how much Christmas trees would cost there?

Oh, outrageous. It was crazy. And it depended on what neighborhood you were in. It would vary by hundreds of dollars sometimes. There was one spot in the West Village. I forget the streets. It was near Wogies. Yeah.

And they would be out there every year. And they were just exorbitant prices. Probably like $25,300 for a tree. Maybe more. Maybe more than that. Yeah. Because they know that nobody is going to go, even like up in Chelsea, I remember the trees were like a little bit cheaper.

They would be 175, 200 bucks. But they know nobody is buying a tree in Chelsea and then walking back to their apartment, even in the West Village, even if it's just like a half mile. Nobody's walking a tree for half a mile. Who in New York is buying a tree for a half mile? Who in New York is buying a tree? a real tree to begin with. I did. I would buy a real tree sometimes. Yeah. But again, it gets me. I'm a real tree guy. That's dedication. I wouldn't do that in New York. I'm a, I'm not a sellout.

The way you say, the way you say real tree guy, it's a little, there's something that's something to that. That's intentional. Yeah, you don't, you don't compromise. I won't compromise my morals. So you got a real tree right now? Are you about to get a real tree? I'm about to get a real tree. Don't have one. It's November. It's not even November. It's not even November. It's October. It's October. I don't have a real tree. I am done with my shopping though. Are you really? Yeah. That's that's kind of psycho shit. I know. I am too, but I finished like 10 years ago. I'm not buying shit for anybody else. Except for my kids. Except for my kids. But even then I just I bet a dad long enough to it's like, what do you want? I give them a list. What do you want? You get like two, one or two things, depending on the price. That way, because I bought too much shit that I think that they would like.

where I'm like, yo, they go, love it, never touch it. When do you guys, like, Aaron, when do you typically have all of your, like, kids shopping done for? The older kids, I got to put at least three weeks of thought into it, you know, at least ask them before. The other kids, you can get them a toy from Walmart the day before. That'll be all right. What about you, big tea? When do you typically have it? Is this early for you?

No, we've talked about this in years past. I'm done. At least for my wife. I have already been delivered. That's crazy. That's crazy. Why? See, while you guys are all rushing around in November and they're like, oh, we've had a shipping delay.

I like to get the Christmas spirit. I feel like gifts purchased in October are not purchased with the Christmas spirit. I don't have Christmas in my heart. Yeah, so there's a difference. You guys are going to have. The recipient will know. Also, where are you hiding gifts for your wife in your apartment? That is something I'm in the car.

Okay, well, I don't have a car. Wait, but doesn't she drive the car? Not really. Oh, well, I don't have a car. Also, she knows they're in there. She, I told her, don't. Well, they were in the closet when they got delivered. And she said, what are these boxes?

I said, get away from there. I'm taking them to the trunk. I don't have, I don't have the, like, hiding spots to get all of these presents two months in advance. I'd have them at the homey house. Yeah, but then it's like, then I feel bad because my girlfriend then has to store my shit. We don't live in these homes where I have,

we have extra, if you need, I'll throw them in the trunk for you if you need. Thank you. Maybe, maybe I'll take you up on the trunk. I usually do Black Friday. Yeah, Black Friday's kind of when I start.

And then go from there. That's a novice. I'm done with my stuff by usually. You go out into the public on Black Friday? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Oh, I was like, that's sad. Never. I don't think anybody still does stuff.

I know. I think it might, it probably could. It might have shifted. I think so. My stuff is done usually hopefully by like December 10th-ish. And then my dad comes into play. That's up until the 23rd. Where he'll be like, what are we getting your mom for Christmas?

Oh, I thought you meant like for what you're getting your dad. Oh, God, no, no, no, no. My dad comes to me and says, and now what am I getting your mother for Christmas this year? Okay. Or her birthday. Do you go to a mall or something? How is he getting it on such short notice? buy the thing and ship it to their house and ask for a Venmo request or he'll call me

while he's at the mall and say what what of this do you like for her and I say usually none of it yeah and I and I and I lead him to to what we like usually I'm buying things for him and then he you're like you're himself I aren't you like this with your is this not like I think this is like a universal experience for like a daughter. My dad loves gift giving. So he usually, he's usually good on that. My dad will have the most insane gift ideas for like a random birthday or random Christmas. I'm like, my mom will actually never use this once in her life. Like we've got to, we've got to strike. And so now I ask my mom, what do you want? Like give me a list. And I kind of split it between me and my dad. And I also don't have like another sister that's helping me out.

Yeah, I was going to say my older sister is like she's, the top dog. Yeah, my brother is, my brother is useless. My brother is useless, no offense when it comes to gift giving. That's what I'm saying. I think it's a girl thing.

Yeah. Daughters. And yeah. It's a bond. Also, it's like women help men with structure. Yes. I've done this.

I've done this since I was young. And he was Muslim, so he didn't celebrate Christmas. So pretty easy. Sizes, like all of that kind of stuff. Like, they run through me. And so now at this point when I have a job in my own money, I'm like, I'll buy it.

You just Venmo me on the back. That's good. Daughters keep the family together. That's good to have a helper, yeah. That's for real. No, it's true. Like when you grow up, they organize all the family. Get together.

There's all the shopping stuff, all of that stuff. What do they like to do? All that shit is done by daughters. But yeah, sometimes I'll let sweat. My mom just text the family group. She's giving direction on what everybody's doing for Thanksgiving. And I said, I'll bring my clubs. Yeah.

Like, sometimes I let my dad sweat. AKA why it comes up until like the 23rd where I'll be like, oh, maybe this year he'll lock it down himself. And then I'll get home for Christmas break. And he's like, what do you got for me? And it's like, oh, shit. And then we have to go to the mall together. But usually I'm just kind of handling it on my own. Does your mom know that?

Oh, 100%. A hundred percent. And also at this point in my life, my mom and I like very similar things. So I can be like, oh, this is something I want to. like so I know that she'll like it and then my mom will be like oh my god like she will turn to me dead ass and be like oh my god that's such a good idea it's just an understanding we have within the family there it go yeah but I like my step done earlier because that stresses me up all-time macadocing tangent yeah that was good it's got to be fired up though I'm

that's productive totally forgot we were talking about a government conspiracy about a murdered journal. Yeah. And it's not even Halloween yet. That's right. It doesn't puts us in the Christmas spirit like learning about a guy. Well, I've been seeing on Halloween real quick. I've been seeing people celebrating Halloween for the last two weeks.

It's been a lot. Yeah. Which is crazy because it's on a Saturday this year. College Halloween lasts like three weeks though. That's what I feel like a lot. I'm seeing a lot of college holidays. I'm seeing 27 year olds. Oh, I was seeing that. I get that there's like Halloween parades and stuff, like for kids, especially if there's, if Halloween falls on a

weekday. But there was like, there have been Halloween parades in my neighborhood for kids for the last like week and a half where they've gone out like in line to all the businesses. It's kind of, it's so early. We just, we can't wait for the actual thing to happen anymore. Do you get a lot of trick or chequer-taders at your house? Yeah. Yeah, I get a good amount. That's awesome. Yeah. My neighborhood. My neighborhood is so both, man. Bogus. I'm just going to leave a bucket out. It's going to be like four max. Yeah, I live in an older neighborhood, I guess.

Like, nobody got no kids. Do your younger kids trick or treat in your neighborhood? We try. I used to try, but it's like, it's just so dead. There's like four people walking on the street. I'm like, I feel weird. I think so. So I left.

There's this place where all the homies go. We take all our daughters so we get up. It's a much more enjoyable experience. Like three or four of us, or yeah, we get. together we have some drinks all the kids run around in the cost of plan and then we go to this neighborhood where like it's extravagant they have like little tunnels connecting to their house lights the whole street is popping so we we just do that now you also have to find a neighborhood that's got doors close together that you can easily walk up from like i i think you've sent over a like a picture

of your house before and it's probably not the easiest in your neighborhood to like walk up the driveway ring the door there's a little track yeah a little track so they probably go to a high density neighbor Roads. Yeah, but I can say, man, I would love to sit in a house and spook the kids and have my house decorated. But like there's only three of them. Yeah. You always don't leave a bucket and say, you know.

Yeah. Be kind. Are you guys want to do a little more octopus murders? Yes. Okay. All right. So like I said, it's loosely centered around like the Iran-Contra scandal, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. really just, I guess the beginning of it is it's this journalist and he grew up right next to the CIA.

I think he's from McLean, Virginia, right? Danny Casillero. I believe he grew up in McLean, Virginia, which is right next to Langley, which is where the CIA is. So he's like, he's been really interested or he was really interested in espionage, all this stuff as a kid. Um, he would go on these weird trips. Like one time he, he ran away from home to go to South America because he was on the hunt for lost Incan treasure. And he came back and he had this, he had this idea that there was a 16th century

inkin king, uh, that had like a shitload of gold from a Spanish conquistador. And nobody knows where it is, but it's in Ecuador somewhere. So he's always like kind of coming up with some, um, treasure. haunts for himself. He was a very eccentric guy. More ascots, I think. Yeah, he went to Providence College and he became a journalist and then he became, he started writing about the computer industry and that's where he met the founder of this company called Inslaw. The founder of the company was named Bill Hamilton and Bill Hamilton had a lawsuit against the Justice Department. And And that's how Castellero kind of opened up this whole world that he would spend the rest of his life investigating.

So the company Insla filed a lawsuit against the Justice Department in 1986 because Inslaa claims that they constructed the promise system. That's a case management system for law enforcement. And the federal government took all the licenses, copied it, and did not pay insurance. for the right to use this software and essentially costing them billions of dollars over the course of the lifespan of the software system. Yeah. And they, the software system was supposed to pull like bank records and police records and all this and put it into one place where it was more easily accessible.

But then the, what's the guy who got murdered's name? Casillero. Casillero. He thought or maybe proved, I don't know, that the government was selling that to other countries saying like, hey, we've got this thing. If y'all want it, we'll sell it to you, but that they were putting a back door into it to where we could spy on them. Yes. With this thing that we were selling. It was a very powerful piece of software that had the ability to tie in like bank records and law enforcement records.

Police records. A lot of shit like that. like everything that you would need to do any sort of blackmail research on somebody. Well, it was like, it was like the beginning of the digitized age of the DOJ and just criminal investigations in general. Yeah. So before it's like massive rooms of documents and files and papers that you would have to go through in order to get these records.

Yeah. So apparently the federal government took over the software program and fucked over the company that that built it for them allegedly. And eventually Castellero used that lawsuit to follow like pulling all these different strings in terms of like the discovery, the different names attached to different parts of the lawsuit. And they were, he was, he started going down all these different rabbit holes that took him into some very, very weird places and never really left him fully satisfied that he had figured everything out. So he had all these different interconnected conspiracies and he kind of came to the

conclusion that there is. The first one being, the first one being that they originally won that case. But they originally won that case that was suing the government saying that y'all tampered with this and took it and that they. them, but that judges, I guess it's tenure, or what do we call it? I forget what the actual term for it is. But he did not get reappointed as a judge and who seceded him was one of the prosecutors that was working for the government in the defense trial. And so he didn't get fired per se, but it's kind of sketchy. And then they appealed the case.

and then lost that case and basically dismissed it. Yeah. So, I mean, that's a, that was the start of like, hold on. Come on, fam. Some, some a little, some a little sketchy going on. Yep. And Castellero kind of took that and figured that there's some sort of like secret organization, for lack of a better term.

I think that's kind of like used loosely. It's not like a bunch of evil guys that meet up at the top of a mountain and like have a layer like in the movie or whatever but very powerful high-ranking people that are distributed kind of across the world that work together to install governments and sway political elections in ways that will benefit them financially and benefit the order of people that work underneath them financially and and and and somehow they are all connected to this lawsuit.

And he talked to some people that were instrumental in like, so there was this one guy, I'm trying to remember how it was named. I think it's Rekon Shuto. Michael Rekonishuto? Yeah, Rekonishuto. Yeah, for lack of a bit of a lot of it.

Yeah. Michael Rekonashuto. He is like one of the most eccentric looking guys and sounding guys in this entire, this entire thing. and he is he describes himself as a rogue scientist weapons designer platinum miner and crystal meth manufacturer and he claims that he has worked for the c s man renaissance the true renaissance man claims that he's worked for the cia on a lot of top secret projects some of which like there's evidence that he has

worked for the cia on things so he's not he's not a complete bullshit artist he was actually like super smart he is like super smart. He was like a chemist, like kind of a product. He had dealings with professors like when he was 16 helping him do some big project with like lasers and crystals and all of this other stuff. And then did definitely develop crystal. Yeah. And he claims that they sold the promise software back in like the late 70s. And he claims that the sales of the promise software were funding covert operations by the CIA, he said that he paid $40 million to Iranian officials in 1980 to persuade them not to release the American hostages that had been taken at the embassy.

And the reason behind that was so that they could damage Jimmy Carter and further Ronald Reagan's effort to become president. And that's the original October surprise. So, Then there was the Iran-Contra scandal that took place afterwards with Oliver North, who was the fall guy for it. But it was pretty clear that something happened that was very illegal. And Reagan, I would imagine, knew about it. But they were never able to actually pin it on him because Oliver North was like, hey, yeah, this is all me. I did all that stuff. So they allegedly sold guns, traded them for hostages, all this stuff.

But also it sounds like they were told not to release the hostages until Reagan became president, at which time he would give them a good deal and everybody would be happy. And we would never have any problems with the government of Iran after that point. So Oswald then is well. It worked out. Now the hold on now moment on that is. the hostages were released minutes after Reagan's inauguration. Yes. So, again, like not like proof, proof, but it's like, I don't.

Yeah. And then it becomes a question of like if Ronald Reagan is not president and somebody close to him is negotiating the release of a hostage that might be separate from the ongoing negotiations that the government, actual government is having, does that make that person doing the negotiations? Are they committing an act of treason? Right. So, yeah, that's, that was the start of it. And this guy, Rikonashuto, had a 12-page memo that he wrote detailing the allegations around the Insla case.

And the founder of Inslau had that document. gave it to Castellero, and that's really what convinced Casalero to really dive into it. And that was the guy, Rikana Chuta, who had, like, worked with the government to use that program for intelligence purposes, which is how Casolero got that information. Correct. And he's the one that, yeah, he said that he developed the back door into the promise system. And again, he has, he's done some things that are like, provably true that he claims. I also think he's probably making some of it up in an effort to, like,

okay, let's say, let's say all the stuff that, or let's say some of the stuff that he's accused of is true. He's probably making some shit up too to keep the journalist searching for these dead ends that have absolutely no resolution that could drive him nuts, right? Yeah, maybe. pretending that he's on his side maybe yeah it's possible to keep him working so the guy the the journalist who was found dead in the bathtub they ruled his death a suicide they did not request an autopsy they called a suicide at first they immediately embalmed the body without permission from his

family are there laws on that by the way like with without permission of the if somebody has power attorney over somebody or something like that is there laws on tampering with a desecrated body without an official investigation? I'm sure. There has to be, yeah. So they also, in the autopsy, they found out that he had three different fingernails that were missing. They found bruises on his arm and on his head. And one of the hotel housekeepers said that they, minutes after they found the body spotted

two towels that appeared to have been used to wipe blood off the floor. And West Virginia law enforcement hasn't really addressed that detail. I guess maybe they're just saying like it was found. They had a misrecollection of what they saw. He was in West Virginia because he was supposed to be meeting with like a big, big time source. And yeah, big source. And he had he had told his family like, hey, in case something happens to me, just know that like I'm on the verge of something big. and it's not what it seems. That could also, they talk about this in the documentary too. They think that it's a possibility that by, if he did kill himself,

he may have tried to make it look like a murder to encourage other people to take up the research that he left off. This guy, just from the research I've done on him, didn't seem like the kind of guy who would kill himself. Now, that's, that's conjecture for me. did. And like, let's say that's the case, right? Take that statement as, as truth. He's the kind of dude that would leave a suicide note with those kind of instructions because he was very detailed, had thousands of thousands of pages and archives that they found. It was very detailed. And he had a, he was just very meticulous about document and everything that he was going through.

So if you're on the verge of writing this big book of a government conspiracy and you're like, I can't handle the more. I want to off myself. and you wanted that to continue, he's the type that would be like, yeah, this is it. And then his brother on top of that, it was like, I mean, you mentioned it. But if my fan, if somebody comes to me and one of my family members is like, yo, if I go missing, I die, don't believe what happened. Yeah. Like, I'm not suicidal.

Like, come on. Also, this is just, I'm genuinely asking, I have no idea. if you're cutting your wrists, could you get to a tendon before you pass out? Yeah, I don't know, but probably. Like if you went at it hard enough, yeah. I mean, you'd have to really be. I just feel like that's a painful way to go out.

It is, yeah. I mean, if you really meant to go after yourself and your knife was sharp enough, yeah, you could, yeah, also why get in a bathtub? If you're killing yourself, who cares? that and why is their blood all over the walls like did you have second you second guessed it and tried to get up yeah he was thinking about the housekeepers in his final moments maybe yeah i don't know that that doesn't make a whole lot of sense i don't know i also think if if you're actually telling people that you

know like hey if anything happens to me it wasn't a suicide i feel like chances are very high that you have found yourself in the extremely highly stressful situation Yeah. Right? If you're actually like if you're making those statements and you're seeking out people to tell that, you're probably also in a mindset that is not super mentally healthy. Regardless of whether or not he was on to something or not. Like you probably are super paranoid. Very paranoid. Yeah. And high, high stress, high stress situation. Wouldn't you be if the government was trying to kill you? Yeah. For sure. That's what I'm saying. Like it's, that's why it's so it's it's it's tough to part. So if you watch the documentary, it kind of ends by saying we don't, like, it's kind of a unsatisfying ending. Would you agree? Yeah. I, I, it's like, I don't know how deep you can really go on it, given that, you know, this kind of died with him for the most part.

But like, it seems pretty clear to me. Like, yeah, he was probably killed. There was, there's one other person that had. a similar death to Castellero. And it was in 19, when was it? 1989. So this is two years before Castellero was killed. A guy named Craig Spence. He was a journalist and he was well known in the DC political circles. And he was found dead in the Boston, Ritz Carlton, November 10th, 1989. And a few months after his name was mentioned, prominently in a Washington Times story detailing a homosexual escort service that was operating

on Capitol Hill and servicing Congresspeople. So in the article, there were clients of this escort service, including officials of the Reagan and Bush administrations, and Spence was mentioned by name in the piece. He was linked to a White House guard named Reginaldegeldra, and that White House guard would allow Spence and his friends, other male prostitutes to take late night White House tours. And then there was a follow-up article with reports from some of his friends and guests saying that Spence's home was wired with extensive surveillance equipment and he would attempt to entice guests into sexual encounters with prostitutes to use as blackmail. Interesting. Sound like anybody you know

you've heard of? So there's an eight-hour interview with the Washington Times that came out a couple months after the first story, Spence denied that DeGeldra alone cleared the White House tours. He said that the guard only served as a guide. Spence said that the tours were arranged by top-level persons, including Donald Gregg, who is a national security advisor to Vice President George Bush. And in the same interview, Spence said that the surveillance equipment at his home was set up by friendly intelligence agents. And like the other murder, Spence wrote on on the, he wrote on the hotel room mirror in a black felt tip marker. He said, consider this my resignation, effective immediately. As you always said, you can't ask others to make a sacrifice if you're

not ready to do the same. Life is duty. God bless America. And it was a similar murder that was very close in time and also very close in terms of some of the same people that were pissed off at the journalist murder. So that's where we're at right now. There's no, they don't have anything else like any promising leads to to further investigate also it is the closest that i've that i've come to the thinking like there is some merit to a a secret like fraternal order of people that are uh well connected around the world well that's what i was going to say is like does this even strike anybody as controversial anymore oh there's a cabal of people running the world that are involved in clandestine you know

dealings and like no i that that seems fairly i who would dispute that oh i i i had always just thought that it was the people that you know they they are they are also the runs that are they're running the world i'm sure they're part of it network like the the heads of like jp morgan the heads of uh defense contractors uh political political elites from everywhere like i think that there is a loose network of official people that are always trying to look out for themselves. But yeah, like a shadow type world order government. This is the closest that I've come to being like, yeah, this is, because I think he's on to a lot of stuff. Some of the stuff sounds crazy, but some of the stuff, he's got the goods on a lot of it. Wait, you said this is the first

time you're like, like secret, like black label intelligence agencies. Really? You don't think there's any other. No, I'm not saying like I don't think that it's, I guess I hadn't really given it that much thought before this. I mean, it's pretty well known that we fund rebel forces. Right, to our intelligence. Yeah. Yeah, we've overthrown dictators. We've, uh, we feel we do a lot.

Yeah. No, I agree with that. I'm talking like people that are like off the grid and intelligence services that are like very much off the grid. Okay. Uh, breaking moose. In what realm? Oh. It sounded solemn.

Inside the NBA. Oh, okay. Ernie Johnson is retiring after this. Oh, thank God. I thought you were going to say died. Wait, thank God, Ernie Johnson's retired? I thought she was going to say died. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Well, I think it's sad. It is. That did not deserve that level of What a roller coaster that way. Solimity. Okay. Sorry.

I mean, yeah, incredible career. Congrats to E.J. I heard Ernie Johnson. My mind went to the. same place Big T's went. Oh my God. Ernie Johnson's retired. My mind went where Big T's went, but then Big T responded by saying, thank God, he's retiring.

And then my mind flipped back to like, wait, you're, you hate. No, thank God he's alive. I love Ernie Johnson. He's an outstanding man. Yeah. Damn. Yeah, that sucks. But he's alive.

That makes me think that Charles is serious when he talks about retiring. Because I don't think that Charles would want to do it with a different crew all. So he's going to do this season, I assume? Yeah, he's retiring at the end of the season. All right. Thank you. Lead with that. Sorry. Did you guys see who he play for? Yeah, that was good. That's one of the funniest clips. Aaron, have you seen that? Oh, incredible. You got to watch, yeah, it was last week. They do it every year, sometimes multiple times a year, but they try to see what Charles knows about the offseason in the NBA and some guys that I guess you could generously describe as role

players in some cases that have switched teams and then they asked Charles what team they're on it was it was an all-time bit of TV it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen his job to know who was had in the NBA yeah I'll kind of spoil some of it for you I think there were five guys that they said and I think Charles went one for five and then they did it two more times. And then I think it was Shaq that goes, Ernie, what do you think he'd get if we did it again right now with the same players that we just asked him about?

And then this look of, oh, shit, came over Charles Barclay's face. And they did it again, and I think he went two for five the second time. Yeah. And then they did it a third time, and I think he still went two for five the third time. It was very funny. That's the best show on TV. It's so good.

Do you know them? No, not real. I mean, we've had Ernie on the show. We've had Kenny on the show. We've had Charles on the show twice. So I guess I kind of know Charles, but I think Charles knows a lot of people. So, yeah, I wouldn't say, like, we're not friends.

He's been on the show twice. I love him. He's welcome on anytime. Ernie seems like a good guy. You know Ernie Johnson, when he goes to the grocery store, he always buys two bouquets of flowers. For his wife? He buys one for his wife,

and then he buys one to just give away to a random person that he sees at the grocery store. Yeah, he's an awesome guy. That's pretty cool. Yep. Good guy. Do y'all have anything like that? Like, when you retire or when you pass and be like,

you know what he did? That was really cool? Y'all got anything like that? Like something that I do on a... Yeah. But, you know, you're a PFT, like he, he used to rescue homeless dogs and give them. I did, I did do that. He used to rub their backs.

No, I don't think I have a thing where I buy flowers for, I feel like if I did that, that'd be weird. Right? I mean, you. Like, Ernie can do it because he's, he's Ernie. You buy, you buy tickets for a lot of people. I buy tickets for a lot of people. There you go. There you got your thing.

Like the Colts, more specifically is like he was a guy that bought Colts season. and tickets to give away to Colts fans. Yep, okay. That's your thing. That's your thing. I can live with that. Tickets to random fans because he really wants them to enjoy that experience. There you go.

But yeah, I can't imagine being at a grocery store and buying a bouquet of flowers and just finding a random woman there. You're like, here you go. I bet that's a daymaker, though. I bet it's a daymaker. In some cases, it might be like a day freak or outer. Who this be? Yeah.

Like every woman that you would hand the flowers to for a second. would be like, wait, what's happening right now? And then only after I had left, they'd be like, that's so nice. Exactly. No strings attached. Here's... Yeah.

Big T, you got one? Not that I can think of. I've got some time, hopefully, to... Develop. Craft a legacy. Yeah. I don't think I've ever... I don't think I've made...

Shack, but I'm going to. You would remember. I'm going to. I've seen Shaq. Met him one time. What was it like? Cool. I mean, we didn't have like a deep talk, but it's like, what's up, man?

I'm going to meet him for the first time next Friday. Can I tell him that you say hi? I need an intro. I need like a line. I don't even know if he remembers, but yeah, if you want. So, Shack, Aaron Foster says hi. What do you think his reaction is going to be? Who's that?

No, no, I think he's one of these guys that has met so many people that he'll think that he's supposed to remember you from something. No, and I don't even, it wasn't that deep of an encounter to me. Yeah. It wasn't like, man, I met Shaq Dog, we sat down. Nah, it wasn't like that. It was like, I think we were in a hotel. I want to say New Orleans or something like that. Wow, what's up, bro.

Hey, he was just really simple passing by. All right. I met Snoop. Snoop. When I met Snoop. Did I tell you all about the story? I think it did. Probably at some point, but do it again.

Yeah, nowhere in the, um, whereas some Super Bowl, I forget which city it was, but we're at some random club. I just popped up. Some big dude comes and taps me on my shoulder and he goes, and yo, Snoop want to highlight you. I was like, who the fuck, who? He said, Snoop. I said, Snoop dog?

He's like, yeah. He said, well, holl at you. I said, fuck, all right. Went upstairs. He's sitting on the couch with this VIP section. He goes, you shut up, two, three. I was like, what up, Snoop? I was chilling.

We just, uh, small talk. We say, you smoke? I said, not normally, but let's fucking do it. You can't turn down weed from Snoop and we get the smoking and stuff. He got some super duper weed. That shit was so strong. It got to the point where it's like, you ever been high? No, you haven't.

Big people are like, you ever been high where you're just like, I don't really know what's going on right now. So I'm going to go ahead and head out. Yep. So I got too high with Snoop walking. I mean, I decided to, hey, dog, I'm going to go ahead and head out. He's like, all right, man, holl at me, though. I said, you bet you walk downstairs, felt like I was floating. We went right back to my room.

Like, this is too much stimulation right now. I don't know what the bug. That was the best weed I've ever had in my life, went straight to sleep. Is that the last time you communicated with him? No, he was on my podcast. Oh, okay. We had a little viral moment. That's right.

I've heard that from a few people that have smoked with Snoop that it's like you don't, you don't really want to smoke with Snoop. Nah, no. It's too much. Nah, no, that's what he does. Like, he's just that clip of him and I think it was Kaysson Knot on the stream. He's like to see how long it takes you to roll the blunt. He's like, all right, start.

He's like, all right. And Kaisnotsnotsman, I can't wait to see this. Man, how long is snow. He's like, all right, you ready? He's like, yeah, yeah, I'm ready. I'm going to start. He's like, no, no, I'm done. He's like, what?

Roll the blood in like 30 seconds, though. That's crazy. I think it's also, it's got to be like kind of a control thing for Snoop, right? He's like, I love smoking people because nobody can handle like I can't. I think him and Wiz Khalifa got a little thing. Yeah. Like who can out smoke who? Yeah.

I think Snoop won. Yeah, I mean, I'll pull on money on him. He's been high pretty much his whole life. He quit. He quit for like a month. One of the things, who was he selling? He was selling something where there was like that big like I'm quitting weed. And then like it was like to sell something.

I forget what it was though. Yeah. That made, that made headlines. Headline news. Snoop stopped smoking. I don't think he, I don't think he'd be able to function. The world would be different.

It might feel like he was high if he stopped smoking. Oh, he was giving up smoke for the solo stove smokeless fire pits. Oh, there we go. Yeah, nice. Nice. I was on, I remember the tweet it said, I'm giving up smoke, not smoking. And I was like, this is an ad. This is, uh, that's how they get you.

Hashtag ad. Yeah. Snoop is a king of commercials. Him and Shaq, too, really. I mean, Shaq will sell you anything. Great low rate. You can get online, go to the general save some time. Yeah, I'm going to see him.

I'm going to see him next week. I'm going to be like, hey, Aaron Foster says hello. You guys kicked in that hotel room one time. What are y'all going to be at? Shaq's fun house. Shaq is doing a DJ set. Oh, we're in a hotel room. That don't be weird.

All right. In the hotel lobby. You guys kicked it that one time. Yeah, I was in the lobby. He says, what's up? Yeah. I don't think he knows who I am.

Are you worried this could lower his perception of Aryan by you saying like, like Aryan's going around telling people that he's friends with Shaq. Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe. Not the, not the cake. We met him once. Like I said, I doubt he even remembers or knows who I. Yeah. It's going to be at LSU.

It's going to be at first. Reds. We're opening up for him. Pop Punk is opening up for DJ Diesel. Love that. Yeah. It should be exciting. Exciting stuff. So I'll see him in the green room, I'm sure. Before we get out of here, there is also some more news on something we've talked about on this show before.

The Big Ten chancellors and presidents are adopting facets of what's in the Protect College Sports Act, and what the league says is the bill's anticipated passage. This includes a cap of athletic spending of $49 million per institution on athletes. per the release Big Ten conference level rule limits institutional involvement in arranging third party NIL agreements to a maximum of 27.5 million per institution. Okay. So they're getting ahead of it.

Yeah. They're starting to implement the rules. So sounds like that's going to pass. Yeah. Damn shame. Or they want to be at least looked at as being early adopters of it. Yeah. Like what's the benefit to that?

Like, what if it doesn't pass? Yeah, I don't know. I don't really understand that. this college sports stuff is like just so it's so you need a law degree to be able to be a college sports fan these days yeah even when like I was I was so excited at the beginning of the season because there was all the LSU stuff going on I was like man I just just play the games but now even when they play they're still doing it so LSU's trying to get more basketball

players that have been signed professional contracts are they really oh yeah their whole team they only had like eight guys to play an exhibition a couple weeks ago. Will Wade. American guest. All right. Well, we will see you guys next week. Until then.

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