Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - The Timeline of The American Revolution
Episode Date: July 27, 2023On today's episode the guys get into the timeline of the American Revolution plus they discuss time blindness, Elon's new Twitter, Oppenheimer, Barbie and much moreYou can find every episode of this s...how on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing
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I think he's the biggest purveyor of stoicism in the modern world.
Define stoicism.
Hmm.
No, I mean, it's just like, it's just like...
I honestly don't know what stoicism is.
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So I'm excited to talk
the subject it's one there's a few topics like this that you learn about in school and it's not
fun it becomes like a school topic and you only associate like sitting in a boring classroom
and uh just kind of like being forced to learn stuff and then once you actually get out of school
and you learn about it for fun it's way cooler history is kind of like that sometimes
science science is also like that yeah physics most things are like that actually i think it's just
school. School makes everything
so much less
tolerable. I'm, yeah, I totally
agree. I've started to read freaking philosophy.
Like, what the
fuck? Yeah, talk that philosophy
shit. Talk that shit, Bill.
I've just been a lot of stoicism.
It's pretty cool stuff.
I love it. Name your top three philosophers.
Marcus Aurelius.
That's all I've been reading.
Even if you learn something cool
in school, it's sandwiched by
seven other hours of shit
that you don't want to be doing
so it's like you get home and your parents
are like, what'd you learn today? And you're like, I don't know a whole bunch of
dumb shit that was boring.
Yeah. You forget about the cool stuff.
Also, tests just make you cram shit and you
don't actually learn it. Yeah, it doesn't
register. But even if you do learn something,
you can't like bring it up in a conversation
with friends because they're going to be like, yo, you learn
that in school. Like,
you can't sit around with the boys and say,
what's your favorite Euripides play?
Because he was the goat tragedy.
writer like dude you paid attention in class then you just told on yourself for being a nerd
i think times are changing though i think it's it's cooler to learn shit nowadays i could be i could
be wrong but my daughter's a dweeb and she's pretty cool amongst her peers so i think it's
changing there's definitely been more visibility of nerds recently and we can argue if that's a good
thing or a bad thing we got tv shows about nerds we got movies where the nerds the protagonists
we got stuff like the social network
where it shows how some kind of awkward kid
invented something that changed the world
and then people are like
oh wow maybe it's cool to have knowledge
yeah
I'm still out
the jury's still out on whether being smart
at school though
are nerds having a moment
that would be like a vice headline
I think
honestly
guy give a lot of props to Joe Rogan
because he made a lot of
you know seriously like he made the sort of warrior poet thing cool
Joe Rogan warrior poet
what? What? Look I know it sounds crazy but he made a lot of like
meatheads like pick up some books and read some shit that may be true
it opened their mind but I'm not I'm not sure if I'm gonna give
Joe Rogan the you know the torch bearer for bringing
knowledge into the open
into the modern world
I don't think that's his
well there's an argument for that
I think there's an argument for that
let's say Joe Rogan sixth round does his thing
for I don't know 20 more years
and he stays at the top of the charts
kids might be reading in a history book
like 400 years from now
about like American civilization
and the important
like artists and
like public figures
Joe Rogan might be brought up
as being like
as a philosopher
the town crier
I think I don't
I look at him more like
like a David Letterman
he's just a modern talk show host
yeah hold on hold on
let me let me let me let me
let me backtrack a little bit
I think Joe Rogan
is obviously I don't agree
with everything he said but I think
I think he's brilliant in what he does
you know what I'm saying he was an innovator
early on and saw that technology was
coming to the
forefront and podcasting and I mean even he he's an amazing martial artist as well he's
black belt be Brazilian jiu-jitsu I think another one too I think judo maybe something like
that's like everything that he does he kills right MMA you know uh hosting everything yeah
everything he does that he kills so I don't want to diminish the man's you know prowess and I don't
think he's stupid at all I think he's dumb I think you know there's some takes I just disagree with
but I don't look at him like
I don't know
maybe like you Billy where he just like ushered
this new way of thinking that's gonna
I don't I don't think I think of him like that
I think it was like a dude who was very interested
in his surroundings and he brought that
and he galv you know
he curated a big audience for it
and that's kind of the place people go now
and also it's a weird we're in a weird place where it's like
I mean, shoot, y'all know more than anybody.
Like, Barstow is an avenue for people to come in market shit, right?
And so it's like, it's like a vessel.
And so like it's not necessarily that he's creating this new thing.
It's just like now he has a big enough audience to where he's getting ad dollars
so that people come advertise the shit on and they have a dope conversation.
That's more how to look at it.
Maybe though, maybe he goes down in history books as, you know, this generation's, I don't know.
Marcus Aurelius.
I think he's the biggest purveyor of stoicism in the modern world.
Defined stoicism.
Hmm.
No, I mean, it's just like, it's just like, it's just.
I honestly don't know what stoicism is.
It's sort of just like an idea that, you know, the,
the harder things are make you stronger in that to sort of be glad they're happening it you know
I wouldn't I'm still sort of building into it I'm not trying to say that I'm like a a master of it but like
for example when Marcus A realist talks about like he's an emperor he's conquered all these things he's
really on the top of the world but even he sometimes can't get out of bed in the morning
yeah it's like why would I leave the comfort of my sheets when
you know i like what is my purpose why am i supposed to get out of bed he was like well the ants
the ants carry food back to their nest every day uh the birds fly and nest every day and i as a human
must do my job which is to exist and uh like what is the point it is to exist and to experience
this grand theater and thing that we call life it's it's like it really sort of gives meaning
to a lot of stuff that you just instead of like being a nihilist being that am I
pronouncing that right nihilistic yeah it sort of gives a lot of things more you know like value
so if it kind of describes what a lot of the tech billionaires go through once they reach a
point in their lives where everything is super comfortable for them they control the world basically
never have to worry about money again and then they go off in a cave for like two weeks only
drinking water.
It's like to experience hardship because everything is so easy for them that they want to get
to things that make them feel alive.
And sometimes the best way to feel alive is by experiencing some sort of adversity.
Like for example, the exact definition of stochism is the endurance of pain or hardship
without the display of feelings and without complaint.
So how would you say you're doing on that?
I complain a decent amount.
Yeah.
about hardships no like for example when i'm like running when i'm like working out in the morning
like that enduring that actually makes the rest of my life better like there's the like happiness
and meaning usually come after some type of enduring hardship be it physical be it like you know
like the like you need hard times have good times yeah like when you're when you're exercising really
hard and you just kind of you
was it that
Schlereth says like embrace the suck
yeah like that embrace the suck attitude
and you know I am not the
I like I've tried to you know
wake up early in the mornings and get stuff done
so like when it's what it's
Monday morning and I saw
Oppenheimer the night before and I'm getting
up and I'm feeling groggy
and I'm like what like I need
you endure this moment to like
Hey Monday he was late
I was late but I was up
I do a lot of stuff on Monday mornings because it's a good, you know, time for me.
But I was doing shit.
Like, the thing is, whatever late to the office.
Hearing you say all this shit, but knowing he was late, it's just funny.
No, I, look, I'm not the most tardy person.
No, you're not the most prompt person.
Right.
You are one of the most tardy people.
No, yeah.
Yeah, that one.
But it's more because I'm doing shit, like.
I'm doing another shit
He's got
He's got empires to govern
It's more like I'm working out
And I lose track of time
Or like I'm running
And I lose track
Like I'm doing something like oh shit
You have time blindness
Like that girl on TikTok
Yeah fuck it
She's got time blindness
Is that a thing?
Oh did you not see this TikTok
I did not
We may have to play it for you
Okay
Send it
I do know there is this something
I may not be the best
representative of discipline, but I'm trying
harder to get disciplined.
Okay.
That's a good attitude.
That's funny.
Like, funny hearing that.
The reason why I'm talking about that is because I'm trying to get better.
Yeah.
Improving yourself.
Yeah.
Okay.
Self improvement shit, really?
So I know there's a bunch of people who shit on me to be like, oh, you talk
about all these things, but you're like, never, but I'm trying.
I'm trying to do it.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm talking to my heartstrings a little bit.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Drop, drop that TikTok in the chat.
I did.
Okay.
Can we take a second?
second to watch it and then come back.
So I just got yelled out for asking a very reasonable question.
So I'm applying to go somewhere and I just wanted to know, are there accommodations
for people who struggle with time blindness and being on time, you know?
And then the person I was with interrupted and acted like I was asking something else.
And then when we were done, they actually started yelling at me and saying that
accommodations for time blindness doesn't exist.
And if you struggle with being on time, you'll never be able to get a job,
you know, provided you're trying your absolute best to be there.
And then they're like, your stupid generation wants to destroy the workplace.
And yeah, I think that a culture where workers are just cut off because they struggle with being on time
when there's other solutions that we can look to, I think that just anybody who thinks it's okay to just treat people like that,
yeah, that culture needs to be dismantled.
And then I ask that person, how can you feel good about yourself upholding this kind of system?
And then to think, I'm entitled.
No, if people think it's okay to treat others like this, that's entitlement.
uh so this chick rocks she's i was going to say she's basically like uh fuck you my time is more important
than yours and i will take no criticism about that and you're going to have to accommodate me
the crazy thing is she's going to find a place that does accommodate her for her time blindness
and she's going to be late for everything and she's never going to get in trouble because she said
she told you right off the bat i'm listen i've got time blindness okay deal with it and then she'll never get
fired. Listen, I'm a fan of, I'm a fan of this, my, this train of thought for a very specific
reason. COVID happened and it showed us how little workers actually have to be in the
workforce. Like a lot of people's jobs totally transformed because it showed that you can
work remotely, right? Which changes the dynamic of quote unquote being on time. I mean, I'm pretty
sure, hear me out, I'm going to finish this, but I'm pretty sure everybody out.
can relate to, oh, we have a meeting in 15 minutes, you go to the meeting and 30 minutes
later, you're like, my guy, this could have been one email with three sentences. Why do we have
to have this meeting? A lot of corporate America is like that. And so I'm with the in the
fact that it's like, you know, like the whole time thing, it's, there are very, I don't know
it's a very few. Some things you got to be prompt on. Some things you got to be on time for.
But a lot of corporate America is a bunch of fluff and you don't really need to be on time.
I handle it when I handle it.
And I don't need,
like it's just a lot of,
I'm with it.
I'm with it.
I think what you're saying,
though,
is really different than what she said.
Yeah,
what she's saying is like,
hey,
do you have any accommodations for people that are time blind?
First of all,
like,
like anybody's going to know what time blindness is.
And second of all,
like what kind of accommodations is she asking for?
An alarm clock?
I don't get,
I don't understand.
To like be told to come earlier or something?
And there were a lot of comments that were like,
time blindness,
would indicate that you should be early
just as often as you're late
if you really just,
if you are blind to the time.
That's a good point.
That's true.
Does she need like a helper,
like a buddy whose job it is to just sit next
and be like,
okay,
we have to do this now.
No,
it's executive function,
which is something that a lot of young males
struggle with,
especially who've been diagnosed with ADHD,
but like executive function.
Are these young males in the room with us?
No, these young,
they're not making excuses.
They're not making.
making excuses but like it it's you lose track of time you're like no so it's not that they're like lazy
or they're like sleeping i got a homin who has ADHD that takes medication for it and he like he'll lose
track of time and it's not like he's trying to it's like he'll get fixated on something and he'll
get fixated on something else he'll get fixated on something else yes and it's time blindness and he
loses like where it's like he's trying to be on time but it's just like his attention span just goes
boom boom boom boom boom and he just loses track of ties it's a real in the worst it was in the
thing is like when you're in strict discipline like scheduled discipline like if you're like playing
college football if you're going to high school and there's so much like times where like
you have to like wake up shower go to school like immediate instead of like the more room you're
given the worse it becomes and it's like this morning studying revolutionary war writing stuff
down taking notes uh going to work out oh shit i only have 20 minutes to get into the office
and then you get trapped in the parking lot because the gate doesn't work and then you were 30
minutes late to the show and then it's like time blindness and time management are two different
things though no i think they're i think it sounds like we're struggling with time management time
blindness doesn't exist it's more you're you you get into something and you get so hyper fixated on
And then it's like, oh shit, like, I've been doing this for an hour.
There's such a thing as face blindness.
That dude, John Hickenlooper, the senator from Colorado, he ran for president back in 2000, or 2020.
He doesn't remember anybody's face because he has actual face blindness, which I think that our president should, I don't want to sound ableless, but I feel like our president should be able to recognize people's faces.
I mean, I think the president should also like be copus mentus.
Well, our president
He recognized people by scent
I think it might be an attribute though
If you can
As a president
I'm saying
If everybody you see is new to you
It's going to make you treat that encounter
More cordially
Like it's new
So that might be an attribute
Rather than taking advantage of every situation
Because you know how this person
We're going to react to whatever case
You know what I'm saying?
That might be an attribute for a president
Yeah
Hello Mr. Putin
they say you're looking great today sir
okay too shay
Adolf I really like that mustache
I never noticed that about you before
yeah you can have the Sudetland
yeah you seem like a nice guy
can we can we get into
Oppenheimer because
I just have to talk about it
yeah let's talk about Oppenheimer
so Philly you went last night
no spoilers though because not everybody has not
anybody seen it
but by the time the sayers
I think it's been enough time.
We know what happens.
We, bro.
I will also say it's hard to spoil Oppenheimer.
Yeah.
We win.
Well, I mean, I mean, I haven't seen it.
Okay.
Well, I haven't seen Barbie.
So we can...
I'm not going to spoil it for you, Billy.
Are we going to Barbenheimer?
Billy, can you just tell me what your favorite part of Oppenheimer was and your least favorite part?
Yeah, get off your chest, what you need to go off of chest about.
My favorite part.
was how my favorite part was actually how removed from the destruction of the bomb
the filmmaking was because it was more realistic to how everyone viewed it at the time
because not many people were cognizant of the actual result of their work and yeah like
what it actually looked like yeah and the in the fact that they didn't actually like they could
have gone so overboard on how much of the destruction of the bomb they could have showed but
they like did the perfect amount to make you feel like how Oppenheimer felt like something
so consequential that he developed they show the scene in the desert but you basically see almost
as much as uh those who worked on the bomb sort of would have seen from media coming back from
the places that got hit yeah they also there was a lot of talk about his his communist connections
which we slightly touched on.
He banged a lot of communists for sure.
In retrospect,
looking at,
like we talk a lot about free speech in this country
and free thought, right?
For about 20, 30 years in America,
the government actively got people fired
and blacklisted and harassed
because they were a member of a political party.
Because they said at the time,
it was like an existential threat to the United States
that people were communists
and linking them with,
with the USSR, but it was literally like just people exercising free thought and free speech
that were that were harassed and caused injury upon by the United States government.
And so we don't really talk about that much anymore.
It's like, oh, yeah, there was pinko commies.
You know, yeah, we got them out of Hollywood.
All the screenwriters were like that.
But in reality, it's just like they were just exercising their American right.
like the Constitution says you can be a communist you can absolutely be you have the freedom to say
or think whatever you want uh without retribution from the government but we just kind of we just
kind of put that aside for like 30 years in this country i i also would like to learn more
about pre-world war two communist movements in the united states because yeah that was something
i i really don't know much about it's a part of history that you know you don't really hear and
I just kind of want to, like, learn about what their aims and goals were, like, because that's
sort of pre-World War II, pre-Cold War, like, what the attitudes were, what sort of the
ideas that they wanted, like, and how it would have, like, changed American society.
Also, a lot of people, like, myself included, they learn about World War II and they get
fascinated about World War II.
And then once you feel like you've read enough stuff about World War II, you want to learn
more about World War II and the best way to do that is by learning about World War I and so then
you go back and you learn about the prequel to World War II and the communist movement that sprung up
in Europe especially after World War I was a direct result and you can't blame these guys at all for
thinking this way they lost so many people like so many people got slaughtered in the most horrific
ways possible in Europe in World War I and they came back to a country that just wasn't looking
after them at all. They just sent them to go get killed for no reason whatsoever because all the
upper class elites and royal families of Europe had these imaginary, they had imaginary beefs
with each other and they were all related and they treated them all like ponds. And so they come back
and they're like, wait, we were just treated like ponds over there. Aren't we also being treated like
pawns in our manufacturing companies that we work for in our day-to-day jobs? And so there was
like a mass awakening of people who survived World War I that came back and became communist right
after that and led communist movements because they were trying to bring power to the masses
instead of having it just at the top. So I, I, you have to completely understand that mindset.
Also, the, the other wars that took place like the Spanish Civil War, the Greeks, like in all
the different movements that were happening in different countries, uh, are also.
So like, I know this sounds crazy to say, but like they're like different canons of a story.
Like if World War II is the main book, like these are like offshoots that you read about.
And you're like, like, because, you know, they talk about this, the Spanish Civil War a lot in the, uh,
Op and I are moving.
And you're like, you want to learn about like what, who are the different factions, like, who, you know, like, and how it affects the world today.
yeah after watching this movie and doing a little bit more research on it i i find myself agreeing
more with a standpoint that we drop the weapons to flex on the rest of the world and to flex on
on russia especially and to say we're ahead of you don't fuck with us because we've got a weapon
that can wipe out any army in the world also Einstein should have stopped them you think so
when Einstein got that piece of paper he should have seen the implications of it
he should have been just like
like if he really cared
he should have tried to stop the nuclear bomb
from ever being developed.
So we talked about Einstein a little bit
and we talked about the fact that some of the scientists
were gambling on whether or not the bomb
was going to ignite the atmosphere
because that was a possibility.
In the movie,
they say that all the guys run of the calculations
say that it's almost zero percent
that it's going to ignite the atmosphere.
And they make a point of saying like
it's almost zero, but it's not zero.
I wonder what,
the actual percent of the calculations that
they had was on that? I
saw a video about it and I don't
want to misquote it, but it
said
one in like
three million or something maybe.
Based on the calculations they had at the
time and then
you can do it, but you
would need bombs that were,
I want to say she said
like a hundred and fifty thousand
times more powerful than
that one. Okay.
If it's one or a million, you can't do it.
If it's two million, I feel like that's an acceptable risk.
Yeah.
But, um...
Would you feel comfortable pressing a button billy
if there was a one in one million chance that the world would end?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, that's not a lot.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, that's less than like routine surgeries.
One in a thousand.
in hell no.
Okay.
But what's the upside for pressing the button?
You win World War II.
Also, craziest thing was
Drake, I mean, Josh, from Drake and Josh,
was the first person to detonate a nuclear bomb
in the movie.
Oh, I didn't realize that.
Yeah, Josh, from Jake and Josh,
dropped the first bomb.
He was the red button man,
which is just funny from a Nickelodeon perspective.
It was a good movie, though.
won't be kid was in it yeah
I thought Robertown Jr. did a good job
the little JFK
Easter egg
was cool and then it was like did this Strauss
guy have JFK killed
yeah good question
yeah
I give it
four balls
out of five
good movie way too long
wait no we're doing on the ass cheek scale right
cheeks
so I'm trying to remember is it is the
ass cheek scale like cheeks
equals good.
Cheeks is bad.
Cheeks is bad.
So I give this movie half an ass cheek.
The worst part,
the worst part was during the sex scene.
She pulled out a book and made him read the Sanskrit quote,
I am death destroyer of worlds while having sex.
That was just like,
that never fucking happened.
I think we said that.
Yeah.
Didn't we?
We were like, yeah,
when you're pounding it out,
I am death destroyer of worlds.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that was just a weird scene.
Hollywood does that a lot.
Hollywood does like,
what I would call them movie lines.
You know what I mean?
Like,
well,
they'll be in a car chase scene,
you know what I'm saying?
Let's just say something goofy as shit that maybe get some laughs in the theater,
but like when you look at it by yourself,
like,
why would you even say that in the,
it doesn't make any sense.
It's stupid movie lines.
I call it movie line.
I came here to do two things,
chew bubble gum and kick some ass.
And I'm all out of bubble gum.
Matt Damon was my favorite character.
Yeah, he was good as Leslie, whatever's last name is.
Groves.
Leslie Groves, yeah.
Good movie, good movie.
Now, who here saw Barbie?
I saw Barbie.
Me?
Yeah, it's crazy that it was either or, right?
I didn't even set it up to be that, but that's hilarious.
It's the biggest opening weekend of all time between two movies.
are one of the biggest of all time between two movies,
but all the other bigger ones was like you could take like Infinity War
and then take that with another movie that opened up at like $10 million.
But I think Oppenheimer got 80 million and I think Barbie got like $150 million.
It was the biggest opening weekend for a female director.
Oh, wow.
All right.
So Matt Dogg, give it to us on the ass cheek scale.
Zero ass cheeks.
this was a flat ass of a movie in the best way possible.
No cheeks.
So are you thinking an Oscar?
I think it'll get an Oscar for definitely for like cinematography or set design just because it's such a cool way that it's like the set is.
Like I said it looks.
So I think it'll at least get set design and like maybe cinematography.
I think Ryan Gosling has one of the best performances ever.
Um, I also think Margot Robbie was amazing. I thought she was an awesome Barbie. I loved. I loved that movie. I laughed. I cried. I smiled. It was just such a beautiful experience. I just loved that movie. You think maybe best, best costume design. They usually give that to a period movie, but I feel like Barbies kind of a period piece. I could, I also think, yes, I think they could also win costume design with it. Also because it was so accurate to the,
barbies that they were trying to replicate. So at basically the end credit scene is shows all of
the barbies that they basically based the characters off of. And they're and and they did it in
the press store too. Their costumes were I mean identical. So I think I don't know if they'll get
Oscars for acting. I hope so. I hope or like Greta Gerwe gets a directing Oscar. I thought I think
they deserve it. I don't know. Like I haven't seen Oppenheimer yet. So I can't.
place those two up. I feel like those are the big two as of right now for next year. But I genuinely
adored that movie and I really, really think every girl listening should go watch it. And
I think everyone should see it. But every girl definitely listens should 100% see that movie.
Were the Barbie's woke? No, I don't think I saw like the whole bench, we talked about this
before, the whole like Ben Shapiro bullshit. Like I don't think it was a super woke movie or a super
like feminism is taking over the world movie.
I thought it was a very, and again, Aryan, correct me if you feel differently,
I think it was a movie that showed that like 100% of the world shouldn't be run by men
and 100% of the world shouldn't be run by women.
Like, everyone has their spot in the world.
Yeah, I think, I like it.
First of foremost, I didn't, I didn't go into with any expectations because I never played with Barbies growing up.
It was never my thing.
I mean, I knew what it was, but I was never into the lore.
I didn't know what the law was.
But I thought, like she said, the cinematography was fucking crazy, though.
Like, she right, they may want to ask for that shit.
That shit was just magnificent the way they pulled that off, just the universe in which they created.
I felt like it was good.
I went to go see with my daughter.
You know, she's 13 years old.
And I thought it was dope from that aspect, you know what I'm saying?
I think it showed the struggle of a transitioning mother through, like I said, I don't
give too much way, but a transitioning mother into adulthood that still wants to hold on
to her childhood.
It shows that dynamic.
So somebody struggling with motherhood.
So somebody struggling as far as Barbie, it shows, you know, struggling with, like, self-worth.
self-value, how society sees you versus how you see yourself.
I thought it did a good job, like, encapsulating that, that struggle and the narrative
that, that, you know what I'm saying, that you're supposed to quote-unquote have
versus the narrative that you see for yourself.
And plus, they implemented some funny shit that happened in that motherfucker, brother.
There was some funny, there was some funny jokes every now and then.
It was really funny, I thought.
Yeah, I thought it was well done.
I could see why conservatives and say it, the, the, the, the, the communists, uh,
Chinese propaganda was a stretch
by, I think Ted Cruz said it. That was a stretch.
It was like a map and it was
just scribbled around that. That was not their
intentions. Yeah.
That was a stretch. But I could see why they say it was woke.
They mentioned the patriarchy a lot, which
which I understand why they would say
it was woke, but I also don't
understand because like to deny that
especially when Barbie was made in the history of
Barbie was made to empower
little girls that only played
with little baby dolls. That was
an accurate part of the movie at the beginning when they're
talking about, you know, little girls used to just play with baby dolls.
And then Barbie was created to, like, give her different occupations, right?
So these little girls used to play with Barbie was an astronaut.
Barbie the astronaut was on the moon before then Armstrong was, right?
Like shit like that.
And then she was the CEO and she was this.
And so, like, that's what Barbie was made for.
So to go into a movie about Barbie and not understanding the history of Barbie,
and what Barbie was made for and they call it woke because they talk about the patriarchy,
which what Barbie was made to kind of break the motive, you're more than just a housewife,
you're more than just a mother. This is the thing there's nothing wrong being a housewife or
a mother, but here are the options. That's what Barbie was made for. To go into a movie
and not expect any of that is wild take to me. But all that conservative bullshit is that,
I think it was dope. I enjoy seeing it. I think it was like my daughter enjoyed it.
You know what I'm saying? She got something from it. I don't know. Maybe I'm just,
It's soft, but I like the shit.
No, it was a very good look into what it is like as a woman and as a female, not even just as like the feminism part of it, but in the movie there's just subtle callouts to like, oh, I didn't think anyone else thought like that or I didn't think anyone else had gone through that shared experience.
And it's not even this like deep, meaningful thing.
It's like, like, I'm not going to try to spoil it, but like, Aryan, like, the guitar scene.
Or like, there's a part about the godfather.
Like, there are just things that you...
That shit was fucking hilarious.
Yeah.
Like, there are a lot of parts of the movie that I think...
Weird Barbie.
Yeah, Weird Barbie's so funny.
Like, I think there's a lot of...
Oh, no, no, I was just to say, I think there's a lot of parts of that movie that aren't trying to be more than they...
Like, they're not trying to, like, hit you over the head with, like, reinders.
inventing the wheel of feminism.
I think it's just like a lot of women have had these same or very, very similar experiences
and it kind of sheds a light on them.
And if like a man is watching this movie, you're probably like, well, I've never thought
about it, you know, like that or whatever it is.
I just think it was a very marketable and digestible way to show a very accurate
portrayal of the female experience.
Yeah.
And, you know, they, they, I think they over-exaggerated, I don't say over-exaggerated, I don't know, I'll take that back.
I think they, um, emphasized, like, the patriarchy in the workforce, and they kind of emphasized that, like, a lot throughout the, throughout the themes.
So that would make, you know, people fighting about, like, current, like, anti-SJW types, like, it'll make them uncomfortable to make it feel like it's propaganda being shoved down your throat.
But to me, I always look at, like, you know, it's just a story.
Like every every movie has like one of seven themes I think it is like it's like rags to riches or it's like the hero or whatever the case it would be like this is just one of those things but told from a woman's perspective in our society and so I think representation is important in in mass media and in entertainment and I thought it was I thought they did a really good job and weird Barbie to be specific what I thought was really dope because it kind of showed like a side of a side of womanhood that gets cast away that gets done.
done with. And honestly, Hollywood is a perfect, a prime example of that. Like, for example,
like Top Gun 2, right? Top Gun 2 introduced a new love interest into Tom Cruise's life
because the original one that he was involved with, like she, quote unquote, not pretty
anymore, right? She's like kind of, you know, she looks like a 50-some year old woman, but this new
joint doesn't, right? And so like to me, weird Barbie was like that. She was like the castaway from
what societal norms views people as pretty and beautiful.
And I think one of the doper scenes was when she was sitting on the benchy.
She saw the old lady.
Oh my God.
That made me cry.
That was fire.
And you know, it's crazy that the director had to fight to keep that scene in.
I read later on that they didn't want that scene in there.
And she was like, if this scene is not in there, I don't know why I'm making this movie.
She's like, that's one of the most important scenes in this movie.
I thought that was dope.
She fought for that scene because that was one of the scenes that stood out to me.
And she was like, you're beautiful.
That shit was fired.
I thought it was well done.
I just, I really, really, really appreciated that.
movie and I the Greta Gerwig who directed it I everything that she touches I think is absolutely
amazing and marvelous um and I think she all of the movies that she's directed have been like a glimpse
into womanhood and a glimpse into what it's like to be a bridge the gap between childhood and
adulthood like she did little women the remake of little women ladybird is a really great movie
about that and I think she just like she I think just knows how to depict that in a very
very real and honest way.
And I just really appreciated it.
And I will go see it again with my mom next week.
So, all right.
Aaron, how many ass cheeks from you?
Uh,
now mind you, these cheeks add a 10.
Right.
I'll give it, I'll give it, uh,
I'll get two four ass cheeks.
One ass.
Okay.
No, two asses.
So four ass cheeks, my bad.
Okay.
Four ass cheeks.
Good movie.
This system is odd.
It's my system, bro.
Why are you always good?
I know, but it's, no, I appreciate your system.
It's just that you have to like, okay, so if it's four ass cheeks, that means it's 40%,
but you're saying it's actually 60% good.
You have to reverse engineer it.
Notice that out of 10, that's actually 80.
I know it would be 60.
So it is confusing.
But also, but the two asses is the perfect amount.
So it's actually better.
It's kind of like a...
A bell curve?
Yeah, it's a bell curve.
Why are two asses the best?
Well, because it's more than one, but anything more than two.
But I take it back.
This is one whole ass.
This is two ass teeth.
Yeah, that's the perfect.
That was really good.
A nice ass.
I think you would all like it.
I like honestly think you would all enjoy it.
Wow.
I'm done.
I'm probably going to see it at some point.
And the soundtrack is so fucking good.
That soundtrack like rocks.
Yeah.
Is Ken true?
treated well in the movie?
I heard there's some rumors that he
gets abused. Oh my God,
no, what?
No, I just saw one like conservative
Twitter being like, Ken has been
disgraced in this movie. If a woman got
treated like this in a movie, it would
go. I'm just like
I'm a Ken's, I'm a Ken
protector. I loved Ken.
If Ken, if you
watch that movie and you think Ken is getting abused,
you truly do not know what it
is like to
to have anything happen to you
in the real world?
It's like the
I guess the character arc
would be like
it's like the villain's story
like that's what it is
like he kind of gets
His like villain origin story
Yeah it's like he gets overlooked
And then he finds his own power
Which he
I don't want to I'm going to spoil it
Yeah no yeah
It's the funny part about why concert is
I saw I saw like part of Ben Shapiro's take on it
But the funny part of why conservatives don't like that movie is exactly why that movie was made.
It's fucking hilarious because, like, it's, it shows men in the light that are overbearing, uh, patriarchal.
They are, they are sexist, right?
And they view that and say that's woke.
I guess it's, it's just hilarious.
It's absolutely hilarious because, like, I remember there's a scene where Barbie's walking on Venice Beach and she's getting cat called, right?
And it's her first time in the real world.
She's, like, getting cat called and, like, you know,
Ms. Shapiro mentioned something.
Like, nobody talks like that.
And I was like, dog, I vividly remember.
I vividly remember.
It's why I talk women and now the way I do.
Like, I never cat called women.
Because when I was like, I think it was like eight, nine years old,
I was walking to the ATM machine with my mom.
And there was these dudes at a bus stop.
And they stood up and it was whistling and it was like, yeah, baby,
yeah, doing that type shit.
And I was like, eight, and I couldn't do shit.
And I just felt like so.
humiliated for my mom and anger and infuriated, right?
And so it's like, from that moment on,
I was like, I'll never treat women like that.
And that very scene was depicted in the Barbie movie.
And I didn't bring up all those feelings,
but hearing Ben Shapiro talk about how nobody does that.
It's, wow, because like, it still happens to this day.
Like, you can see, go to go to any public arena, any, no,
I don't think it happens as much because people
are starting to be more aware of this hit,
but it's just funny hearing the conservative viewpoint
of that movie.
It's like, nigga, you're the reason why this movie's made, bro.
It's hilarious.
I like that.
And it probably happens less and less because people have been talking about more and more in pop culture.
And you can whip out your phone and record someone saying it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I love, I absolutely love videos of a dude that's getting caught doing something with his phone that he shouldn't be doing.
But he gets caught like in public doing it.
Like there was one that came out a couple days ago that I saw.
It was on an airplane.
and this dude had his phone down
he was like trying to record the flight attendants
as they walked by like trying to get up their address
with his phone and somebody took out their phone
in the back of the plane and caught
him doing that and then
all the people on the plane like just jumped
and they were like what the fuck are you doing you perver
they took his phone they arrested him it was
awesome. It's instant justice
yeah that's why
that's crazy bro
I can't
I can't I can't with this
yeah there's there's some perves
I saw a similar video of a
It was in Australia
And this dude was caught
Taking a video of a girl in a bikini
At the bar
And then all these Aussies were like
Mike
What? It's a pervert
Yeah
They all just jumped them
It was a great
That was a great video too
Because the guy looked just like Stu Finer
Yeah
You look like the bagel boss guy
When I first
When I first saw the video
Somebody sent to me
And they were like
Oh shit they got stew
And for a second
I actually did think that it was Stu.
Stu would never do that for the record.
He loves his wife very deeply, 15, 15.30.
But he did, he did look a lot like this guy in this Australian video.
All right.
So we got...
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
I have one more thing for you.
Obviously, people are listening to this two days later,
but we're recording 30 minutes after we just had this conversation all about dogs.
Did you see the update on the Jordan Addison story?
no so you know he's the vikings rider seever who was going 140 miles an hour in a 55 mile an hour zone
yeah last week and everybody starts criticizing him heavily which with that information fine
did you see why he was going 100 miles an hour over the speed limit i'm trying to think of what
justification there could be there were bees in his car it was a medical emergency for his dog
oh okay so now and now it's okay
Okay. I told you what kind of medical emergency. Was it bloat? I'm just seeing medical emergency
for his dog. If it's bloat, then yeah, you got to get that dog to a vet or are a human hospital.
That shit's hilarious. Either way. Yeah, bloat. Time is of the essence. I have more mental notes of
where 24-7 veterinary clinics are in my area than an actual ER. Oh, for sure. Me too. Yeah.
It's one of the first things that I did.
If like I slip and fall and I cut myself and I'm bleeding profusely, I don't know where I'm going to go.
But if something happens to Blake, I know right, left, left, right, boom, right there.
I got that.
I got that.
Yeah, I need to know what kind of medical emergency it was.
140 miles an hour.
Why wasn't he going faster?
Maybe that's as fast as car went.
Did the police help him?
I don't know it, but that was according to the police citation.
Okay.
Well, I might be on Team Addison on this one.
I've taken my dog to the 24-7 ER more times than I've taken myself to the ER for less things.
And you've had a significant amount of rashes on your body for last year.
Yeah.
Yeah, I need to find out what the medical emergency was if the police tried to help his dog.
he's the anti-vick
yeah exactly
I love it
I might be a Jordan Addison fan
damn
I want to get your thoughts
on on Elon changing Twitter to X
oh the X site
this guy man
X going to give it to you
as long as he starts paying
tweeters
who have the right amount of money
you can do whatever you want
Billy is really obsessed with this idea that someone's going to start sending him a check for tweeting.
They gave the fucking Crasentines's freaking money.
One thing I've noticed, just real quick on the Crasinstein brothers,
I've noticed that since Elon took over and one of his first orders of business was to
reactivate Trump's account and also reactivate the Crasinstein brothers.
A lot of people are out there claiming that like whatever stupid argument,
the Krasenstein's are making, like, they get to arguments with the Krasenstein's
because they think that the Krasenstein's represent left-leaning people online.
I want to just be very, very clear.
The Krasenstein brothers have always been the most hilarious stupid frauds of all time.
Please come on the show to discuss.
They are ridiculous.
They're almost cartoon characters.
I think they got to spend the first time because they had like 20 different accounts
that they were used to spam and, like, fleece money from their followers.
were they the ones that made the
that made the
children's book about Robert Mueller
where Robert Mueller had like an eight pack
that's an all-timer
I think they're the ones that also said
Because of the Russia broke
Yeah well some people are saying
Go Rams or go Patriots
I'm saying go Robert Mueller
And the rule of law
Oh my God
That's a lib big T
That's a liberal
Yes
Those are the libs that the Big T should hate
And Big T, I will join you in hating the Krasenstein brothers
And lockstep my brother
Totally
Throw them, Nancy Pelosi
Throw them niggas in a boat somewhere
I'm with you, brother
Have you seen, there's a guy
I'm sure he posts stuff everywhere
But I've seen him on TikTok
He said for the next year
He's going to make every stock transaction
That Nancy Pelosi makes
And he's just raking in money
Oh yeah?
Yeah
You should all do that
I know
that would be hilarious
actually
they did something like that
with GameStop
I think we talked about
where they kind of like
flooded that shit
and made the
made the price go up
and fuck the market up
we should do that
with Nancy Pelosi
stocks everything that she do
we do and flood it
and make her fucking go broke
it's a GameStop movies
coming out pretty soon
it looks sick
oh I can't wait for that
when are we gonna
how can those of us out here
that want to tail Nancy Pelosi
how can we do that
I don't know
wear that. I'll go find it and I'll send it to you. That's hilarious though. Send me that
dude's TikTok or whatever. I'll find it. Yeah. But as far as the rebrand of Twitter into
X goes, I don't know what the fuck Elon is doing. I think he's trying to make one super app where you
can use it as like banking. You can use it as social media. You can use as email everything
under one app. I think that's what he's trying to do. And if that's the case,
there are way too many apps way too many apps out there when you move into a new place you have to download like 20 different apps especially if you move to a different city got to get a parking app you got to get all there's an app for everything way too many apps app for the new cable service way too many apps out there if elon is trying to reduce the number of apps that i have to use i'm on board with that but the twitter into x thing just it's it's dumb it's so stupid did you see that the logo is a letter
you can buy on fonts.com for $30.
I did not see that.
That makes so much sense.
I see, I see, we read a little bit about his origin, his, his, his origin story
and how he finessed to get into PayPal.
And then he, he, he wanted, I think it was, what was it?
Fuck his minute since I read it.
He had a website like Stock X or X somethings, X, X, X, I think it was just, I think it was
just x.com now i think it was just x.com
uh and he wanted that to be paypal
he ended up fucking up they ended up voting him off of the board of
paypal and he kept that domain name for since the 90s he's had x.com or something like
that and then when he acquired twitter i think if you go to x.com or whatever it is
it goes straight to his twitter feed or twitter in general's uh
of feed so he's like he's had this x thing in mind for for a while now
named his kid
X whatever
the rest of his name is
and SpaceX
but yeah like
you're like 12 kids
I mean I'm not the one to judge
you know
I got him out of that too
but do you like 12 kids
I think he only has one
that I know
no yeah
he got a bunch of kids
one of them's actually trans
he's a don't fuck with him
really
he's a big population
collapse guy
oh he has 10 kids
I've legit only heard of one
Wait, I thought, yeah, I've only heard of one too.
And one of them is trans and they hate him.
What?
He had his first kid in 2002.
I think it's so funny that he's had this idea for so long.
He's been waiting for the right time to like break it out a project that he controls.
It reminds me of, um, you guys seen the movie Wild Wild Wild West, right?
Underrated, by the way.
That's a hot take.
Wow, Wild West, but most live?
yeah the shitty part about the shitty part about that i'm gonna let you get you take off but i have to say this
the shitty the shitty part about that movie is it came out when the matrix when he was filming when he was
filming and he was actually supposed to be neo he turned down the matrix role to play with wow wow
west yeah if you're comparing it to that yeah that shit is ass but i i like wow wow red that's a cool
little goofy-ass movie okay all right that might be a spicy take i think a lot of people there's a lot of
haters on Wild Wild West, but if I remember the story correctly, you know, the giant metal
spiders that are like a central point of that movie, the dude builds these huge mechanical
spiders. The guy that implemented that into Wild Wild West was helping to write one of the
Spider-Man movies. And he wanted to incorporate a villain that rolled around these giant
mechanical spiders all the time. And, well, he wanted to make like most of the movies.
giant metal spiders attacking things
and his co-writers
were like dude we please give these
fucking giant mechanical spiders thing a rest
like this is we're not going to do
that just let it go let the dream die
and he got really mad they got
to big argument and then he's like fuck you
I'll go make an entire move he had a giant
mechanical spiders we're going to do a western
we have a bad guy oh I know exactly
what I'll use for that guy
big fucking spiders
it's obsessed with the idea
yeah that's hilarious
That's Elon with X.
Yeah, he had a chance because Dr.
Ogregard actually has, like, tentacles.
He could have made
Spider-Man, one of them Spider-Man's villains.
He has like, he has like the little tentacles
that come out of his back or whatever.
He doesn't have to actually make spiders, bro.
Yeah, big, big to chemical spiders.
Because I liked Wild Wild West, man.
Have you guys seen it?
Never heard of it.
Never, don't know what Wild Wild West is.
I just Google it.
Really?
Yeah.
It came out the year I was born.
96?
99.
Okay, I found it.
So John Peters produced the film, right?
This guy named John Peters.
And then Kevin Smith, he did clerks, Chase and Amy, Dogma, all those movies, Jane Silent Bob.
Kevin Smith talked about working with Peters on a fifth potential Superman film in 1997,
revealing that Peters had three demands for the script.
The first demand was that Superman not wear the suit.
The second demand was that Superman doesn't fly.
And then the third was to have Superman fight a giant spider in the third act.
And then after Tim Burton came on board, Smith's script got scrapped.
The film was never produced.
And a year later, Smith noticed that Wild Wild West with Peters on board as a producer,
was released with the inclusion of a giant mechanical spider in the final act.
Gaiman also said that Peters insisted that a giant mechanical spider be included in a proposed film adaptation of the Sandman.
So he tried to put a big giant mechanical spider in a third movie, too.
This is like his thing.
Then he kept, he's like, one day, I'm going to show all you guys,
this is going to be a big fucking spider and you guys are going to love it.
That is wild to just be obsessed with a random ass.
Yeah.
So it's arachnophobia if you're afraid of him.
What if you're obsessed with it?
Arachnophilia.
Yeah.
Arachnophilia.
He's an arachnophile.
Ragnophile
If you don't
Got eight legs
Get it out my face
Get out of my face
Dude
Eight legs means four asses
That's fact
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Think about it that way
I would give the movie
Four asses
This reminds me
Eight cheeks
Who is the
Who's the Nickelodeon producer
That always had
Like
I think he did
I Carly
And Dragan John
Yeah
And he
He like always made them
do weird feet scenes.
Yeah, Dan Schneider.
And it was like,
what the fuck, dude?
I guess every director of their thing.
Like, um,
Quentin Tarantino's like that too.
Quinn Tarantino.
He's a fuck guy.
He don't have a movie where the nigger.
Nigger ain't even said.
Dude.
Nigger in every movie.
He's obsessed with saying nigger.
He wrote a scene and casted himself in it just so he could
suck Salma Hayek's foot and have tequila poured down her foot into his mouth.
like these
like what the fuck
like
these Hollywood guys
just had way too much
fucking power
like you like
him doing that
makes everything
that Harvey Weinstein
did like so believable
because these guys had just
so much power
and so much money
yeah
it took it took him sucking
somebody's foot for you
to believe
to Harvey Weinstein
is that that person
no no but like
if this guy
was getting away with that
I can see it
no no but like
if this guy
guy's getting away with it on screen in front of everybody, him doing stuff behind closed doors.
It's just like, what the fuck's going on?
I would honestly feel uncomfortable if I was, if I was hired to write a screenplay for,
what was that movie?
The, uh, the one with the DiCaprio in it.
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
No, no, no.
The, um, the one where he played, like the one that took place on plantation, Samuel L.
Jackson.
Oh, Django.
Django.
If you hired me to write that screenplay, I would honestly feel uncomfortable, like sitting down
writing all that dialogue
out
that would be
it would be weird
it would be very weird
I'd feel weird
wearing the shirt
that Aaron is wearing
right now
yeah
Aaron have you ever thought
like for those that don't
they can't see it
it says for my niggas
you can read that
he can read it on his
computer screen we can't for here
yeah that's probably true
yeah that blew me up
Aaron we do the camp out
give us a change of clothes after we go
swim in your pool and then
give that one to Billy and don't tell him that it says
that until after he puts it on and then we'll take a picture
of him.
Blast it everywhere.
I got tagged in one of the Mincey Jumps.
It was like
it's bullshit that Mincey got fired.
There's a guy on Macrodotein that says it every episode.
Yep.
Double standard.
Alive and well.
Thanks.
There's this company.
It's called Every Nigger Deserves.
And it started out just like posting
inspiration of shit.
It would be like,
you deserve to have a good day, my nigga.
And it was just had shit like that
or like, you know,
every nigga deserves therapy.
And shit like that.
It was just like,
you know, like black people congregating
and saying like,
yo, be good.
Do well, my nigga.
And it ballooned to like
they have a whole bunch of merch now.
It's dope and shit.
It's pretty dope.
So if you're interested, go check them out.
I assume white people say it all the time
because black people have been like
at the forefront of pop culture
and like the shit we do is cool.
I'm thinking about it though.
We're the only race I've known in the world
that has had their racial slur
turn into a term of endearment
so much is so to make other people
want to join in and say it as well.
I've never even seen that get to close
in any other kind of race.
I've never seen it before.
So I understand it.
But also, like, I'm not comfortable with white folks saying in front of me.
I let them know, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I know some, like, I know some like, you know, younger cats.
The younger generation is different, right?
So I play a lot of video games.
A lot of them motherfuckers be online and it be, I'm a nigger every day on Valement, right?
And so I just usually mute them.
But like, younger cats that, you know what I'm saying, that are in this,
internet world, they see it.
They don't really know the history behind it.
And so I'm not really, I'm not saying it trying to change your mind.
I just be like, yo, I'm not comfortable.
saying that around me.
So either I'll leave or you leave, but I'm not going to sit here and just let you call
me a nigga all day.
It's not going to happen.
I think Xbox live platforms have really increased that.
I feel like a lot of 12, 13, 14-year-olds waiting in the lobby for a game.
So I remember, like, joining when I first started playing Halo in college, I was shocked.
I was shocked.
I've heard a lot of stuff in my day, but I was shocked.
And Aaron, to your point, I don't know, maybe other people have different experiences.
the people that I hang out with never say ever folks like I think that's most people though
I think it's a I think it's a vast majority of people there I think there's a I think there's a
level of decency that everybody has in front of each other uh socially but like when you in your
groups where you people you trust I wouldn't surprise me if it slips out a majority of americans
mouth every now and they like all the time but again I don't I don't give a fuck to the point
where it's like going to move or ruin my day.
I don't care.
Like, I'm not the word police.
I'm not fin of it.
I don't, fuck, dude, say what you guys say.
You know what I'm saying?
But I just not comfortable with the shit.
But I feel like most people are, I feel like 99% of people are prejudiced.
Not necessarily racist, but prejudice, right?
When they prejudge people and they have preconceived notions about demographics.
Like, I'm prejudiced.
I admit it.
I'm very prejudiced, right?
But I don't let that prejudice detour my behavior towards somebody.
Right?
So, like, if I have a preconceived notion about you, I have it.
It is what it is.
But I don't let that affect how I treat you.
You know what I mean?
I think that's the difference.
But I think a lot of people, I think prejudiced, I think I've said this before, but I think
prejudices are a good thing that allows us to be open about how we feel, about our cultural
experiences.
But if you take it a step further and start to believe some of the preconceived notions
and then act upon it, that's when you leave in prejudice town and you're walking towards
racism world.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I agree with you.
Like, yes, I am prejudiced.
I have prejudices.
And you learn what your prejudices are.
You realize what the reasons for them are.
But yeah, most people don't realize the difference.
Yeah.
But yeah, it's like, yes, it's human nature to be prejudiced based on your own experiences.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
Billy, what are some of your prejudices?
Well.
Let me pull out my list.
Don't you hate Irish people?
No, I am Irish.
That's the joke.
What was the ethnic group you hate?
Irish.
You do hate the Irish.
No, I am Irish.
I love Irish people.
I think, no, I literally, one thing I am very guilty of is that I like to learn weird stereotypes about different people that are just interesting.
like it
I like to learn other cultures stereotypes of other people
yes yes because it's funny it's like what
it's like well we don't have that kind of racism over here
it's like an entirely new brand like for example Teddy Roosevelt
there's a Teddy Roosevelt once
encountered a man on the Western frontier
who saw Bigfoot back in the 1800s
and he was writing about this guy
but then he just dropped this like very hilarious
like presumption he's like
well he was a German and we know how Germans are
they're very they're very into their fairy tales
and they believe made up things
and then it was just like what
back in the 1800s Germans were considered
like delirious like they like believed in a lot of weird shit
yeah crampus
yeah they're like we know how those Germans are
always believing fairy tales and shit
it's classic Germans
yeah like but him saying like that's why big foot might not his recounting of big foot
but like weird stereotypes that just don't like play today that's just like what like like
the polish arm uh the polish navy joke yeah it's the polox you can make all sorts of polack
jokes just interesting to hear other people like having their own weird types of race
that's really the best form of like cultural experience you can have to learn about another
culture, learn about how that culture is racist to other cultures.
I also think, so like a lot of stereotypes could be beneficial, right?
So, and some of my people still believe this, right?
But when I was growing up, you had to wash your chicken, right?
It was just, and that was, that came from like generation after generation of like,
you're washing chicken.
So when you get chicken, you put it in the sink and you got to wash it, right?
Well, that being shared over the years of the stereotype and, like,
West thing like, your white folks, you don't wash your chicken, right, right?
Like, that being shared led to, like, science is coming out and saying, like, you should not wash your chicken.
Here's rock because it can spread bacteria and all this.
Salmonella can go all over the county and you're spreading contaminants, right?
That was news to me, right?
So that helped, that helped me, right?
But then also, you know, it's a double side of corn, like, one of the ones, one of the ones that was really interesting.
And I never understood why growing up, like, black people was always associated with watermelon, right?
black people like watermelon i never know it was delicious fruit i never understood why it was just
associated with black folks we're kind of find out to my knowledge don't quote me on this but like
to my knowledge it came from like white folks depicting uh slaves um having watermen they used to give them
watermelon for breaks and they used to say see and there's people that were pro-slave there
see if you give them watermelon they're happy with a little bit of rest and a little bit of
watermelon and it's and i got projected over time and then the caricature of uh black face would
come and have them eating watermelon and so that
that ballooned into black people like watermelon, right?
I mean, everybody likes watermelon, but it's like that that's where that stereotype come from.
So it's like it's interesting to find the different prejudices and stereotypes.
And that's why I feel like they're important to have one, but also important to understand
the origins of where they come from and why we, I mean, we share this culture.
Culture is a, it's a, it's an interwoven, uh, blanket of experiences.
This is important to just share.
And that's why I'm not afraid to have these conversations and make people feel uncomfortable.
talk about it in general.
I think it's dope as long as you ain't raised.
That's a beautiful way to say it.
It's,
would you say the,
it's a blanket of interwoven experiences?
Hell yeah.
Yeah.
Respect.
Okay.
What else we got to get into?
Anything?
I think that's all I had on the docket, my brother.
Billy, Big T.
Speak now, forever, hold your peace.
I'll hold it.
Okay.
all right let's do it let's talk talk about the american revolution seems like it took place
forever ago but it really wasn't that long really yeah in the scope of human history we are a young
ass country we are what is that like 300 years ago we're only three generations old
is that true three lifetimes yeah three lifetimes so about windsor the the tricentennial is man that
that depresses me.
We're going to be so old
when Haley's comic
comes back around
and when we have
a tricentennial.
But we may be young.
But 250 is going to be a big deal.
250 will be a big deal.
Yeah,
you're right.
Quarter century.
So that's going to be...
Three years.
Three years?
Oh,
fuck yeah.
Oh,
we're going to party, bro.
Hell yeah.
I'm going to still,
it's going to still be okay
to like do fun shit
when on that age.
Yeah.
27.
Yeah.
what do you want to do for the tricentennial
you should start playing the party now yeah yeah we should book
quadrucential i don't know how do how would you say that
quarter
quarter of a thousand
uh yeah whatever
just centennial and then over and then a four
what are you going to do what do you have planned billy for the 250th birthday of the
united states well we could
book a venue
we the people
right now
yeah let's book a venue
three years in advance
and then we can
throw a huge party
if you guys are down
I'm in
we could get it sponsored
about 2050
it's no
it's gonna be
what is it
it's gonna be
2026 is going to be
the 250th anniversary
of the United States
by the way
it's called a
semi quintennial
that sucks
yeah semi quintennial
hell yeah
maybe get
band get some fireworks we're going to need some awesome fireworks
American flag right semi-quincoletian it's written as one word no dashes or anything
that's one word yeah semi-quincentennial just remember that put that in your back pocket
because you'll be seen it a lot I feel like SQ is better come to the S-Q I want to buy
stock in the word semi-quincentennial oh let's buy let's buy the website
semi-quincennial dot com yeah semi-quinquentennial dot com yeah semi-quinquentennial
We can throw a little thing.
That might be a.
Macrodocin presents
semi-quincentennial.
Then if any of the higher-ups
ever try to cancel us,
like, well, you can't
till at least July of 2026,
we got a whole thing planned.
Yeah, come on.
Come on.
We got sponsors locked in.
I've already paid for it.
Oh, this domain is for sale 6K.
Shit.
There's a lot of money.
Damn.
What about semi-quincentennial celebration?
What about SQ sent?
Who?
Oh, yes, yes.
Billy's semi-quincentennial bash.
S-I-N-S-I-N-D.
Oh, with S-I-N?
Yes.
Yeah, S-E-N-D.
Because we're sending it.
I like to send it.
I like to send it's better.
Yeah, sin.
Like it's on some Sodomacomac-M-Worse.
No, no, but we're going to sit down.
We're going to send it.
What if that's, I mean, that words, the semi-quincense.
That word's barely cool now.
It sure ain't going to be cool in three years.
It might make a comeback.
It might get recool.
It's kind of lame right now, but it might be recool.
We might, yeah.
When you say recool, that implies that it was at one point.
Was it?
It's like nickelback.
Sinned for a minute was a thing that people who look like Billy would say when they're
about to do a rather mundane task.
Like, we're going to send it.
Like, hey, you guys want to watch me drink this beer?
We're going full sin.
No.
I sent it this weekend.
There may be there may be footage of this, but I sent a backflip.
off a boat this weekend and I said I was going to send it.
And I did it.
So you know there's what is a total pivot, but you know, there's one athletic feet that I
cannot bring myself to do and I just don't know what it is.
What's the shit where you, where you go forward but flip back.
Gainer.
I can't do that shit.
It's a reverse.
Like a front flip.
It's whatever.
But like when I try to do that, my mind goes, like my body just freezes up and I just
end up doing a backflop every time.
It was the one flip I mastered for a little when I was on dive team for a second, but I can't do it anymore.
What do you have to do is you have to run forward and then literally trust that your momentum going forward will push you out far enough so you don't hit your back of the head on the backboard.
And it's such a, if you have like any sort of self-preservation instinct, it just doesn't make you want to do it.
When we go camping, when we go camping in your backyard, I'll teach you.
you can gain her yeah you can throw a gainer yeah i would like to see that what's the trick can you
teach us billy's right it's also it's it is like kind of like a physics thing like you're not gonna
i can also do them sideways or i used to be able to you're not gonna go if you so you're running
forward or whatever and then you're doing the back flip you're the physics of it is your 99.9%
chance. You're just not going to go backwards. Like it, it is what Billy said that it's just,
it is just you kind of have to trust it. But you're running enough that you get pushed out.
The physics doesn't make sense for you to run forward and then move backwards. Yeah. So when you
jump, you almost have to do it. Like, what I used to do when I was trained to do it is I do
an approach like I was jumping forward. Then at the last second, I jump in,
and hit the board backwards and then just do a backflip.
And that sort of helped me get into that mode.
So then I just hit the board forward, did a backflip, and would be still moving forward.
That's crazy.
People that can do all these twists and turns in the air, it takes like a special type of mindset.
I have no idea how gymnasts do it.
That's good.
When they do like a backflip, like a flip with a twist, a twist and a half, two twists.
how do you keep track of where you are in the air
that was my whole childhood
yeah it was awesome
like a diver are women better at gymnastics than men
like can women do more tricks than men
no um men still have that like physical advantage
of like having more power and like more muscle mass
but like men don't do beam like the balance beam
and it's more of like differences
but like Simone Biles for example
if she were to enter in a male competition
she would still probably do extremely well
I think it's just more girls do gymnastics
yeah it's just a more female dominated sport
yeah yeah and they get more
watch did everybody know I did not notice
yeah that was like my whole life
damn yeah I'm a fiend on a diving board
give me on diving board I'll go nuts sky zone nuts
dude what can you do on a diving board
I'll do the twists I can
do like a should we have a dive off i'd love to let's have a dive off i could do like a front
yeah but i still think i could beat her i could do a front full but that's just but the whole thing is
is like you're you're spotting so like if i'm if i'm in okay so i'm in the studio right now i'm looking
straight ahead at like billy i'm looking at like the basketball above his head you would twist
and you're looking for the basketball again and that's how you know you would do a full rotation
dude i'll get my mom to whip out my dive team tapes in the speedo yeah in like fifth grade yeah
Yeah, that was like my whole life growing up, Aaron.
I didn't know that.
That's shout up to you, oh, man.
Yeah, it's, yeah, it's legit.
But I mean.
All right.
Do you ever have, oh, my bad.
No, I was just going to try to bring it back to the.
I don't know you were.
I know you were.
I was going to have another question that was.
Yeah, one more question.
Go, go, go, go.
All right, because it's interesting to me, right?
So it's like, my entire life was football, right?
Meaning, like, when I grew up, that's all that's all I.
That's, I knew what I wanted to do, right?
So that was my life.
After after, after school, it was football practice.
So, like, there's this, to this day, there's this, when I wake up in the morning and I smell fresh cut grass, it brings back these rushing memories of me playing a ball, Saturday mornings, whatever it gets me to be, Sunday mornings, every time, right?
Is there something like that for you, Betty?
Yeah.
With, like, swimming and shit?
Chalk.
Okay, because you had to chalk up with the, uh.
Yeah.
So chalk.
Like sidewalk, I mean, I don't come across, like, gymnastics chalk that much, but, like, sidewalk chalk and the, like, the, like, texture and the smell.
Yeah.
And it just, like, gives you all these, like, rushing memories of, like, yeah.
That's dope.
That's dope.
Yeah.
Touching wet grass.
Go touch wet grass, bro.
No, no, no.
Touching wet grass.
That's grass in the morning.
Grass in the morning.
Yeah.
100%.
It reminds me of so much, so many things.
Chlorine.
Those red thermoses that you drink out of, the smell of those.
Yeah.
Garden hose.
Yeah, garden hoses.
Is there anything like that for you, Big Day?
Or where you just, you'll smell something and you're like,
Dan, that brought me back to what my life was.
Well, I didn't love football like you did,
but the smell of a rubber floor.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
Yeah, in the gym?
Yeah, like that always makes me think of like high school football.
Because our like the weight room was like that.
And then also the locker room, the whole facility was like that rubber floor and had a very distinct smell.
That actually gives me PTSD though.
That's what I'm saying.
I hate that.
Yeah.
Because it's like, I can't work out now.
Like, so I have to find other ways to be active because when I go into a gym, I just get this overwhelming sense of like
anxiety of like yo give me to fuck out of it because i spent
day after day an hour after i was just in a gym
lifting all these different kind of exercises and i just
fuck that shit for life
the smell of the laundry
that like sweat smell
yeah okay yeah yeah you know what i'm saying like that like
other people's stale ass jockey that i didn't really
that that's a that's a wild take i didn't hate that shit
like it was almost it's almost like
nostalgia like it's like
like a dirty sweaty locker room
it's almost like home it feels like yeah
you know what I mean because that was also when you were
chilling
post practice talking shit with the boys
and developing the camarader yeah
Aryan you would you would be able to
corroborate this or not I
I've so you go play basketball
right now and you sweat right that smells a certain
way yeah
football sweat
smells different
you know why it's because of the
the pads have old sweat on them but do you do y'all agree like do y'all know what i'm talking
yeah yeah i know exactly it smells very distinct and you smell other people's sweat yeah
yeah it's a it's a different it's a different stench for sure i know what you're saying
it's very distinct yes it's like if you gave me if you gave me two two bags full of laundry
and one of them were basketball shorts absolutely absolutely i would absolutely be able to
distinguish and blindfolded i would for sure be able to do that yeah
That's a good call.
That's a good call.
Yeah.
But I thought he was a good podcast dog.
He's back there.
Yeah, PFT's dealing with his dog right now.
Like, they're causing a ruckus.
That's not a good look for all of us, you know, pro dogs.
We were told this was a good podcast dog, and here we are.
I'm going for every.
I'll take it how I can get it, baby.
Your mouth guard, the smell of your mouth guard, because you didn't wash that.
Now, I think that one might be a you thing.
What?
your mouth
your mouth guards didn't have a smell
I'm sure it did
I don't remember mine I mean not to me
I didn't
wait what do you mean
what I wonder if
football pads
smell different from hockey pads
they do
I don't understand to play hockey
hockey
hockey shit smells almost worst
oh you know I'm thinking
okay so I played with
you know the
the pacify mouth pieces
yeah
so I play with that
and they have holes in it so I could breathe through it.
That might change the smell.
If you just kept your shit in it, it was just maybe that's why yours had a smell to it.
Remember Mark Ingram's mouthpiece?
The one that had the spinner whenever he'd exhale?
Or was that, was that Ingram or Kamara?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Camara had one like that, but the first guy that did it was, oh, man.
I forget, but Alvin has had some like that, I think.
Then it became a thing for a little while.
Oh, it was
Benny Snell at Kentucky
He's the one that had the spinner on it
I think he was the first guy
Those are cool
Bring this back
You guys want to talk about
The American Revolution a little bit more
No, no, it wasn't, it was the chin strap
The chin strap
The chin strap smelled terrible
It almost smelled like Chinese food
Because of the salt
Chinese food smells awesome
Yep
PFT, what was happening with your dog?
Maybe one of your prejudices there?
He's whining a little bit because he's in his crate.
I just said it wasn't a great look for those of us that were, you know, pro dog that this,
we're told this was a good podcast dog.
He made a show and a half.
Well, he's a good podcast dog.
He just, he's a puppy like any other puppy.
He's in captivity.
If he had a fin, it would be slumped over.
No, no, he's happy.
We just had a good walk when we took a quick break.
He's doing great.
He pooped twice.
He's the best.
All right, American Revolution.
Yeah, American Revolution.
Let's talk about it.
We're going to get into the Revolutionary War in a second.
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so the colonies were made up of what i guess florida wasn't a thing at the time the 13 original
colonies um were expanding westward in the united states back in like the mid-1700s we had been
established here for a while we need more land to put our shit on we were sending a lot of stuff back
uh importing a lot of tobacco back to england and we needed more land to continue to expand so as we
started to do that as the the british government was encouraging our expansion um what happened was
we got into this big ass war um with the native americans and the french joined in at the time
it was called the seven years war which actually was a nine year long war but basically we were
like uh the great britain used the united states as part of its fighting forces so the commander i
I believe one of the commanders, or one of the high-up-ranking colonels of the British Army during that war was George Washington.
He commanded the Virginia Regiment, which was actually quite a small force.
What's interesting about that war, it was kind of a proxy war between France and Britain,
and the reason why it's also sometimes called the French and Indian War is that the British enlisted a lot of Native Americans to fight the French.
So it wasn't totally in.
But George Washington's experience in that war really made him suitable to become the commander of the Continental Army later because he'd never been to Europe.
He'd never experienced a lot of the European battle training that a lot of the guys who are studying Napoleonic wars in that sort of army on army style of fighting were just two groups met in a field.
and just two armies just took shots at each other until someone charged, someone died,
basically almost one of the stupider ways to fight a war,
basically just, you know, laying on the line and just trying to pound the football on the one-yard line
as opposed to do any other trickery, just line up, best man wins.
But George Washington, by seeing this war, saw all the detrimental ways
that European combat wasn't going to work on the American continent
because especially how a lot of the natives who were fighting on the French side
were able to outmaneuver the British fighting forces
and sort of start this guerrilla-style warfare
that became huge for Washington, the American Revolution.
Yeah, wars back in the day, they were fought by like idiots.
It was just basically like, there's honor, you line up in a straight line,
and then you're going to shoot all your guns at us.
then it's going to be our turn to shoot our guns at you yeah so for the last i don't know like
thousand years england and france have just been fighting wars with each other even when they're not
fighting wars against each other they're doing little proxy wars they hate each other like if you
ever talk to anybody from england or from france about their emotions towards the other country
like it is deeply ingrained in you if you grow up in england that you fucking hate the
french and if you grow up in france you hate the british uh this is kind of fun both of those seem
Completely fair.
Yeah.
More so the
more than triple handshake.
It's the handshake meme except add in another
another person in between shaking each side of those hands.
The funny thing about the French,
and this was something I heard an English person say,
that they fight with their feet and fuck with their face.
That's little...
That's good.
Yeah.
I like that.
So this is a proxy war,
and we're fighting against the Native Americans and the French.
and we're basically taking England side
because we are British citizens at this point.
George Washington commanding, as Billy mentioned,
the fighting style was ridiculous.
It was just pretty much an honor system,
wars were done on the honor system.
Yeah.
So it was essentially like if you had more people with guns than they did,
you were probably going to win that war.
What's ridiculous is that this style of fighting
continued up until World War I,
basically just lining up and just,
throwing shit at each other
till someone gave up.
It's like if every time you played football
against the Service Academy,
like Oklahoma has to run Army's offense
because they're playing against Army.
Yeah. And they'd plan
battles. They would plan battles.
They would be like, oh, this
looks like a good, you know,
nice field to fight in.
There is some honor in that, though.
It's the Oklahoma drill of war.
Yeah, it is.
None of this Josh Heippel, New Age,
bullshit. You line up across
on a board and we're going to see
who's the bigger man. Yeah. Yeah.
The colonists were playing some
Mickey Mouse shit out there. Yeah.
They put, you know,
it was a... They're running these gadget
plays because they know they can't beat us man to man.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, war was wild, man.
And so this proxy war continues for a while.
As I said, nine years, even though
they call it the seven years war. At the end of
it, France said,
right, you guys win. We're going back to France and England, you get everything east of the
Mississippi River. And I think Spain gave up Florida at that point, too. I don't know what the
Spanish were up to at the time. But the bottom line is, since England had been fighting this war
overseas for such a long time, they spent a ton of money on this war and they saw it as like
them protecting their colonies. And so that led in 1965 to the passage of the,
stamp act and the stamp act was the first time that they ever taxed us that they said okay
the colonies were making you guys pay money and it's for your own protection because we just
spent millions and millions of dollars protecting you over the last seven years even though that was
kind of their decision to do so they basically had us then pay taxes to them and the stamp act
was so fucked up have you guys read about the stamp act yeah they they charge money for
for a stamp that had to go on any legal document that you filed.
I think it went on newspapers.
It went on decks of playing cards.
It went on everything.
If you wanted to purchase anything in the United States,
or I guess in the colonies at the time,
you had to pay a stamp act that went back to Great Britain
that was supposedly to repay them for the money they spent on the French and Indian War.
But in reality, it was just like, okay, we're kind of going broke.
We need some money.
Today's equivalent would be like any sort of internet message that was sent, like text, tweet, anything, you'd have to like pay money to the government.
Or like if every dollar you earned, you had to give money to the government, and then everything you bought, you had to give more money to the government.
And then, uh...
Like, yeah, no, no, it was more extreme.
Every dollar that you save and put in the bank, you have to give some to the government.
It'd be like that.
Every purchase that you make.
since that goes to the government
it would be more like text because back
then commercial documents and basically
any official text I think even
letters some letters were
part of the stamp act
like even personal letters
the ones that went overseas
if they tried to pass the first sales
tax today like if a state
if sales tax wasn't a thing
and all of a sudden New York was like guess what
8.5%
of every dollar that you spend
at a grocery store we're going to add
that on to the top of it and you're going to send that to the state of new york there's no chance
that the state that the uh the state um sales tax would ever come into fruition these days i don't
think hmm crazy so we uh we then protested we got up in arms about it and some people refused to
pay the stamp tax we had people that would like buy booklets of stamps take them out and burn them in
public and then the tax collectors that were employees of the British government that were over here
we like went to their houses ding-dong ditched them I think some people got tarred and feathered
too oh yeah what's it so talk to me about tar and feathering does that kill you do you die when
you get tart and feathering burns the fuck out of your skin there was a the best representation
of media I saw of the tar and feathering was I think there was an HBO series called
the atoms that had a pretty insane scene of a tar and feathering.
They literally used to take the taxman out, strip them down of all their clothes,
dip them into hot tar or paint them on with tar, which fucking burns.
Like the same tar you see being put down when they're like filling in cracks in the road
in the blacktop, that kind of tar.
And then they would just, I think, beat them with pillows or something that would explode.
into feathers but I don't know where they would get the feathers but then they just put feathers on
them in hang on the feather the feathering is is kind of uh that's just rubbing salt in the
world yeah did they need to actually put the feathers on them and make them look like giant
birds yeah I want to know where that where I want to know who came up with the tar and feathering
punishment so goaded oh no one was known to have been killed as the result of taring and feathering
it was extremely painful um so yeah they would look like it have the humiliating appearance
of a chicken or a large bird sounds like something that a college football program would do
to freshmen yeah let's let's feather this dude probably one just north of chicago let's
let's make them look like a big bird yeah oh man so they tar they tart and feathers a bunch
from, they beat them up. What else, Billy?
So it was a public punishment
and ridicule that had been used in Europe
since the Middle Ages.
But it was made famous by our founding fathers.
So...
It says the founding fathers.
It was typically
pine tar. They would
pour or brush hot pine tar
all over their body. This pine tar
was not as hot as modern petroleum-based
tar when heated, but would often
blister or burn the skin.
Hmm. Oh, on at least one occasion, the colonists lit the feathers on fire to burn the skin underneath. The person would then often be placed on a cart or forced to sit on a wooden rail and then would be paraded through the streets of the town to make a mockery of them. Occasionally a sign would be fashioned that would explain why the person was being punished, and they'd often be struck or whipped as well. As awful as a punishment, it would be to be tart and feathered. Crowds and individuals would often use it as a threat. The threat of having to endure such treatment proved to be a powerful.
tactic of intimidation. We should tar and feather those people who like take pictures,
the perves on the planes and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, they should get tart and feathered.
I was going to say, I don't know if this is a popular take, but we need more public
humiliation punishments. The gallows, sorry, not the gallows, the stock or the stocks or whatever
where they just put people's arms through the holes and make them just stand there.
But if you're, if you do something that you're going to go to jail for like two months,
like instead of that, you just get like parades.
through the street like they throw a parade for what a
dunce you are and everybody just points and laughs like
ha ha look at that guy and then you see him out in public are like hey
that's the guy that we threw the parade for how stupid he is
mob rule might be a little uh that that can get a little slippery
we're not advocating advocating for violence here billy
we're just saying no just just pointing and laughing
and dressed up as a bird
yeah you have to have I'm not advocating for taring and feathering
I'm just saying put them on a float
like world's biggest dip shit
and drive them through the town
everybody gets to point and laugh
have a nice fun lunch break
and then when you see him at the grocery store
you're like hey that's the parade guy
you would go to this parade
yeah absolutely
a couple at least
I'm sure after a while it would get kind of old
but the first one would be awesome
but then see
see the open open up a new counter worms
you're all for not making people
profit over stupid shit. The first guy that
goes through this parade is going to have a podcast
he's going to get some kind of video.
I mean, people have podcasts now about like going to
jail. So.
Yeah, but this is a specific thing made to
humiliate them, not enrich them.
That's true.
Netflix presents to be worked out.
Netflix presents Tard.
The baby gronk dad story.
Yes. Like maybe we make this
not for crime.
but just for that's a slippery slope too, but like just the worst, you know, the worst people
who haven't committed crimes such as baby gronk's dad.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
This one guy, John Malcolm, a 51 year old customs official in Boston, he struck a patriot in
the street.
He was then dragged from his house.
They stripped them.
They put hot tar on him.
And then they beat him with pillows.
So they did beat him with pillows until.
The feathers went everywhere, and then he got covered in them.
And they made him chug tea until he pute.
I'm telling you, that's not, that's not nothing.
No, this, this is the type of stuff that happened before the nuclear bomb.
It's, anyway, it's not, it's not, it's not, I'm not saying it's, it's, it's grew.
It's just like a, it's like a evil-ass way to, like, torture somebody.
Yeah.
Like, it's evil.
Having five or six people.
just beat the shit out of you with pillows would suck.
If there was a way that we could do it with
room temperature blue
and then the feathering part,
I'd be on board for that so you don't get the burning.
Home alone one. Home alone one.
Yeah, there you go.
It has douse them in Elmer's
and then you can beat them with pillows.
Not in the eyes, though.
Stay away from the eyes.
You ever catch the corner of a pillow to the eye?
Yeah.
actually have. It shit hurts. I'm actually struggling right now with pillows, man. I can't find
a good one. And the one that I had, my friend fixed because it was losing feathers or whatever,
cotton. And there's a hole in it. And so it was kind of like getting smaller and smaller. And so
she fixed it, but put too much in it. And that's too big. And that was my only pillow I can
sleep with. And now I have, I think, like, eight different kinds of pillows on my bed. And I don't like
any of them. It's a struggle. I'm worried about that. I'm moving. I need to buy new pillows. And I
don't know. I searched for the pillow, the pillow I have that I sleep with every night. It's perfect.
But it's like really, really old. It's like yellow kind of. And so, so I want new ones.
But I Google that brand and they have 37 types of pillows. So I don't know which one it is. And now I don't, I don't
know what to buy. If I was you, I would keep your pillow and change, put a different cover on it.
I, yeah, it's just the pillow looks, it's time for new pillows. By the way, when a pillow turns yellow,
it doesn't mean you pissed on it. Someone, I got to do an argument. Yeah, definitely not. Like,
I've gone to an argument with someone that like an old pillow is yellow. It's like, oh, that must be pee.
I was like, no, that just happens to pillows. I don't know why. They just fade. But they turn like yellow.
I think it's one of your friends that you drink beers and move with. Yes, it was.
I mean, it's years of sweat and, like, you know.
And it's like you're dirty, like sometimes new to lay down.
Not like dirt dirty, but like you over time.
Yeah, no.
I will say though, Big T, like a lot of men have it where it's like you.
I mean, like a pillow cover, you can see the inside of the pillow a little bit.
Like it's like really yellow.
Well, that's why I'm saying.
I'm buying new pillows, but they, you know, I don't know what pillows to get.
Or maybe depending, I don't know if it's a feather pillow or just like a.
like a temporepetic type sometimes you can take the covers off of those pillows and wash it
i'm just going to call it right now it's just the pillow there's going to be i'm doing pre it off
because big tea is going to be furious when he goes to a store and tries to buy pillows and he sees
how much pillows cost i'm i've uh through this moving process i've become so numb to what things
cost that just add it to the list.
I mean, it's, it's insane.
How much are you? Like I just bought a new bed.
All this stuff. Like a trash can.
Oh, that did this yesterday. I was like, yeah, we got to go buy a trash can.
Just crazy what they're charging for things these days. Joe, fix it.
Figure it out. Wait, wait, wait, wait. I'm looking at, I'm looking at pillows right now.
There's no way. There's no way a pillow. One pillow costs 50 bucks, right?
I'm seeing 60 and you got to buy two.
I've bought pillows all on the spectrum
because I need something
I've bought a $200 pillow
that is trashed
There's no way
How much is a my pillow?
I don't know he's going out of business
Actually no I've tried them
They're uh you know I hate to say this awful
Terrible pillows 30 dollars
I'm that's cheaper okay so
They're this thick and it's
It's bad they're bad pillows
I wish they weren't
See I struggled to find the balance between like
Comfort and Firm
too firm and too big
it hurts
I need something that's like right
I want it
I need the Goldilocks on a pillow
I want it to be this tall
and flat
and firm
yes that's my pillow
well if you find one
fucking call me
because I'm in the market
you find one call me
alright
hey you want to go
pillow shopping
make a video
I fucking absolutely
you want to come to Chicago
this weekend
and go pillow shopping
that would be a great video
you too
just going to crate and barrel
I might be able to
go to Chicago this big game, right?
All right, come on.
I'll be there on Friday.
Wait, stay the weekend and catch me McKenzie at the end.
You know what?
Pencil me in.
I might go to Chicago this week.
All right, come on.
I'll show you the new group.
I'm going to find me a good golf course and I'm going to make a trip of that.
I like a pillow that when you lay your head down on it,
it's like soft enough so that you sink in and it covers your ears.
So it might be too soft.
Yeah, that's really.
Yeah, because then you're just laying on the mattress.
Yeah, then you're not.
pillow.
Yeah, but then it covers your ears.
What do you need to cover your ears from?
It's for noise.
I think people who don't live in major cities don't have that issue.
Noise cancelling pillow.
It's just so floofy.
They should make a pillow that has a small speaker inside of it.
I think they probably do make sense.
So if you want to go to bed, like listening to YouTube or listen to like a sleep meditation podcast
or something like that, it's got the speaker inside of it.
So it's a very faint sound that you can hear.
and only you can hear it, you're sleeping.
Also, taking a pull of the men in the room,
how many pillows do you guys have on your bed?
Four?
Well, I'm different.
If I had the pillow that I liked,
I would have one pillow on my bed.
But I have around eight right now
because I've had so many different kinds
that I've bought in the last two years.
You're hoarding pillows.
Well, I can't find the right one,
so it's just like a whole bunch of trial pillows.
And none of them work
And the one that finally did work
Which I've had for years
It's ruined now
So I'm struggling
But usually men don't have a lot of pillows
Right how many do you have big two
For
I sleep with one
But I have so another one
For if I'm watching TV
Or playing video games or whatever
So I have two
But then I sleep with one
You kind of all just impress me right now
Do you like hold one?
I hold one
I coddle one
All sometimes
I'll sometimes have one to the side
Yeah
My pillow becomes my puppy
My pillows are my puppies
I love I will cuddle with the pillow
Yeah
You guys all just impress me right there
What as opposed to how many
Like I know a lot of guys that have like one
Like one on the whole bed
You can't have one on the whole bed
What if you have a friend come over?
What?
A lady friend
I have some pillows in stock for them
I know but I'm just saying some men don't
Some men just are like
Have fun on the mattress
yeah that's wild i have probably eight or nine pillows in my apartment because i've tried different
ones and i hate a lot of them and they're sitting in the closet yeah all right we are the same here
back to the revolution they beat the shit out of people with pillows their pillows are probably
shitty too so it probably hurt yeah they probably like had the feathers on the end that are
pointy and you could feel them in the pillow oh no small paper cut stabs yeah yeah so they got
They got all buck wild on these tax collectors, and it worked.
Protests works.
They repealed the stamp tax, and they're like, okay, obviously this isn't going to work,
but we also can't let them think that they're going to get away with it.
So like a year later, they developed the Townshenax, and those were basically the British Parliament saying,
we have your authority.
They were trying to put us in check.
They're like, okay, you may have fought us back on the,
stamp tax. But guess what? These new taxes, that's going to be on everything. So we're going to tax
tea. We're going to tax all sorts of food. Anything that shipped from overseas is going to be
taxed. Paint, paper. They passed that in 1767. And in order to enforce those get paid,
because people were just straight up not paying the stamp taxes, the British Parliament sent
over some troops. They sent some troops up to New England to enforce this, protect the tax
collectors, make sure they were still going to get their fair shake. So the fact that they sent
troops over, I think it was two regiments of the British Army got sent over to Boston.
The fact that there were now troops from the British Army looking over citizens of, I guess,
of Great Britain at the time, that didn't sit too well. Not in New England.
not anywhere also this is sort of where the third amendment came from uh non-quartering soldiers
because these british soldiers were just forced upon the populace and they would just live in random
people's houses and they're just like you have to feed me you have to and then like the he's got
a gun and he's got power and he might like you know your wife's like there was a lot of instances
of british shoulders staying in houses and like raping women who lived in the home and like you
You couldn't do anything about it because they have all this power and they were just abusing it in your own home.
And this really pissed off a lot of patriots because they were getting cucked in their own home.
Yep.
That'll happen.
And then fast forward about two years in Boston, there was a British Army detachment that was heckled and I guess they would say attacked, but there were rocks thrown at it.
there were some oyster shells.
They started throwing oysters at the British troops.
The British troops then opened fire on the crowd, and they killed five people.
That was the Boston massacre.
And the soldiers were actually charged with murder at the time.
They got arrested.
The United States or the Boston colony or whatever it was arrested them.
And then they couldn't find anybody to represent the troops that shot into the crowd and killed five people.
No lawyer wanted to do it because they didn't want to be.
seen like they were a loyalist because they were patriots and loyalists they didn't want to be
seen like they were a loyalist that they were taking the side of great britain and all this
so john adams stepped up and he said i'm i believe so strongly in the rule of law that i'm willing
to defend you uh because every person deserves a fair trial the brother them what the brother
of his more famous nowadays beer making of samuel adams that was his brother do you think
samuel adams is more famous than john
Adams? I think
commercially, yes.
No chance.
Amongst the beer drinking population.
Yes. Amongst Billy.
Amongst Billy, he's way more famous.
John Adams was a president.
I know.
Who do you think?
Look at the mentions.
Samuel Adams is probably way more Google than John Adams nowadays.
Let's check Google trends.
I feel like Sam Adams wasn't, like in his lifetime,
he wasn't looked upon with any degree of reverence like his brother was.
Also, their second cousins, not brothers.
Not brothers.
That's true.
Okay.
When I heard that, I was like, are you sure they were brothers?
Yeah, Sam Adams at the time, he was like a failed businessman.
He was a rabble rouser, wasn't he?
Like, he'd just like to start trouble.
And he brewed beer part time.
I don't think that was his job.
Samuel Adams is much more Googled than John Adams.
Yeah, dude, they're not searching for the person.
They're searching for the beer.
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
He's probably more well-known today.
But if somebody Googles you, does that...
Nobody knows who he is.
Necessarily mean that you're more famous
because maybe they're trying to find out about you.
Like, nobody's out here Googling Joe Biden.
We know who Joe Biden is.
Yeah.
But Vermont, for some reason,
Googles Samuel Adams and John Adams a lot for some reason.
Hmm.
All right, so John Adams got him off.
It was a successful.
defense of the British soldiers so people were upset at the British soldiers soldiers
because they shot and killed five people Boston decided we're not taking that
shit so there was a tax on the T and we talked about the taxation without
representation that meant that the I guess I keep going back and forth between
like Great Britain England whatever whatever you want to come the British the
British were taxing us and then we didn't have a seat at the table in their
parliament so they were just basically using us as a piggy bank without us getting any say in the
matter of where that money goes who's spending it um what we're spending it on what they need there was
none of that conversation happening so um a bunch of people in boston got together they disguised
themselves as mohawk and they boarded ships in boston harbor and then they dumped a whole
fuck load of tea into the harbor
and they called it the Boston Tea Party
by the way
I wanted to go back to the Boston Massacre
real quick. If you had asked me how many
people died in the Boston Massacre, I would have
said 60
to 80 and it was
five. You think it was overblown?
It has a good PR team.
You think it was a mostly peaceful massacre, Big Tea?
I don't know. Some might say that.
Comparatively like five people in Boston
at that time is probably comparatively like
almost
I don't think you can do inflation on people dying really
no I'm saying percent to the population
I don't know
probably be equivalent
five people in the 1700s is equivalent
of 25 people today
this says Boston's population
in 1775
was about 14,000
hmm this small town yeah
okay maybe
Bill is right
that in a small town
that should be
hey they did
and they fucked around
and found out
yeah
to the tune of
the greatest
country that's ever
existed
so maybe
Jason's on
to something
I don't know
so we dumped
all their
we dumped their teeth
their stupid tea
into the harbor
I wonder
how many fish died
that was
that was the real
Boston massacre
the Boston
fish fry
from the 1770s
all these poor fish
swimming around in there
just getting
do you think that
back in the 1700s
do you think people in Boston
had the Boston accent
it was probably
no it was worse
they sounded like British people
yeah
well no British people
didn't even sound like
British people
yeah it was like
the original British though
it was like
they sounded like they were
from Savannah Georgia
wait what
we've talked about this
oh yeah the Savannah accent
I don't know if they sounded like that
it was
It was probably a dialect that we haven't heard before or the British.
And so it was like more originally British.
And then we got here, got, you know, probably more lazy because it wasn't as emphasized.
And we kind of did away with a lot of their customs.
And so they created the British accent after the Revolutionary War, though, because they wanted to distinguish themselves from Americans.
We made them change their own accent.
Look it up.
Look it up.
Look it up.
I mean, I'm preemptively saying I don't believe that.
Wait, so, Big T, are you positing that right now we speak with an English accent?
No, so British people in the 1700s and before probably sounded like a, like, Savannah Southern, but like that, that Regal Southern accent.
Oh, the mid-Atlantic accent, the one that's like, uh, now, see, here's, here's what we're talking about.
Kind of between that and like molasses.
We're talking about the American Revolution.
All right.
Now, see here, like foghorn, leghorn.
I say, I say, I say, that's a whole lot of tea in that harbor.
Yeah, and so, I don't know what you was doing now, that.
I do declare.
I do declare.
I do declare.
I don't think they did, Brad.
After the Revolutionary War, upper class and upper middle class citizens in England
began using non-Rodic speech as a way to show their social status.
What is non-rotic?
What does that mean?
That's a fantastic question.
Speakers pronounce their R's.
Receive pronunciation,
aka typical British accents,
is non-rotic.
So words like card are pronounced like cod.
That's kind of,
that's Boston adjacent.
But yeah,
but they're non-rotic.
They don't pack my cat.
So how did that,
so are you saying British people talk like southern folks?
My understanding is it sounded most similar to
kind of a,
what we would call a,
Southern American accent now, and then after the Revolutionary War, they were like, well, we don't
want to sound like them. And they just, they changed it intentionally. So Americans kept their
Rodic American accent for the most part. Port cities on the East Coast, especially in New England,
had a lot of contact with the Arliss British. So if you always wondered why Boston natives
Pock the Caz and Potty Hod with a glass of Cabinet, thank Rodicism. So Rodicism is more like
Boston speech where they don't pronounce
their ars and they're ours and they go
like, hello,
welcome to my palace.
This is my car.
And I party hard in Harvard Yard.
All right.
So,
you know what I'm saying?
So the British,
they change their language to sound like what?
To sound like Bostonians,
but just in a British accent.
You know,
so they,
like if you pronounce like Boston speak
in a British accent,
you'll get,
like I park my car in
Harvard yard
This fucking
This fucking Prince Harry
Harry man
Fucking but you say
You know you're speaking British
And you almost pronounces your
Oz just like the Bostonians
But it's different
So so domino effect
The stamp tax passes
And then the big domino is
Everyone in England talks like rear admiral
Precisely
Precisely
Quite quiet
But down sale, wait, I do declare I pronounce my oz, I pronounce my oars.
I do declare this tea becomes a property of the bottom of Boston Harbor.
So they dumped a fuckload of tea.
The British didn't like that shit.
And more of the persecution continued with more troops being sent over, more taxes being levied.
And then we established the committees, of course,
respondents in 1772 and in the United States that was between the colonies so that we could
coordinate what we were going to do to respond to British colonial policy so it shows that we're
uniting against each other right we're joining forces because we realize okay this we're not
Boston's not going to be able to defeat the British Empire yeah and if they keep fucking around
with all the other colonies they can defeat us all one by one it's the old join or die now you see
at half court at the at the Philadelphia 76ers games the snake that's cut up into many parts
join or die you got to you got to unite as one if you want to fight back against these Brits
and so that that's kind of what started the United States that was the first time the states
were ever united and so um then there were the intolerable acts
also known as the coercive acts so this was 1774 this is a year
after the Boston Tea Party
they had the Boston Port Act
the Massachusetts Government Act
the Administration of Justice Act
the Quartering Act and
they basically pretty much
Massachusetts is the small kid at the
bar your buddy that you go out with
that talks a lot of shit to like
the biggest group of dudes there
and starts a fight and then comes back to
you as like we got to kick these guys asses
now and they drug us
all into it like Boston
Boston pushed all the buttons
on the British got them all riled up
and then Boston's like
look what they're doing to all of us
we got to fight these guys
this actually sounds like a lot of my friends from Boston
to this down
like short Irish guys
they're like let's go fuck
yeah they're just talking a lot of shit
yeah and they need their boys to have their back
luckily for them we said okay yeah
luckily for them they're Virginia
all right Smitty we got your back
so
so yeah after after the intolerable acts
which were basically to single out Massachusetts,
we established the first continental Congress,
which is the committees of correspondence.
We got together and were like, hey, okay, we need to meet up.
We got to link up somewhere in person and talk about all this shit
because writing a bunch of letters isn't going to cut it.
That's not an effective way to coordinate.
So they met down in Philadelphia in 1774.
There were 56 delegates.
They represented every colony except for Georgia.
I don't know what Georgia was doing at the time.
Georgia's doing their own thing.
Big team, maybe you can answer for that as a Georgian.
I'm not sure.
Sneaky, a lot of royalists.
Loyalists.
Loyalists in Georgia at that time.
A lot of British influence in Georgia.
So along with the intolerable acts,
one of the things that they did,
in addition to all those things I mentioned before,
was they made more British troops
be housed in taverns and vacant buildings.
So really what happened was Boston talked a lot of shit.
Boston started a fight.
And then the British response to that was,
well,
we're going to close down all your bars.
And then Boston was like,
fuck that,
it's on.
That's the last straw.
You're not going to be able to go even with the boys at all anymore.
And that shit didn't fly too high with Boston.
So they got the entire continent into a fight on their behalf.
Shout out Boston.
This makes me like Boston a little bit more, I think.
I mean, the Freemasonry, so Freemasonry was very intertwined with the founding fathers because a lot of the times, many of the founding fathers, I think, I want to say like 14 of the original signers of the Articles of the Declaration of Independence were Mason's.
That's probably wrong.
I will check the actual facts.
But because they met in these meetings, they could talk of acts of rebellion and group up and meet.
together under the guise of just being Freemasons when really a lot of the times they were planning
like Sons of Liberty type stuff like it allowed them to gather to take greater action.
That's about the same time that common sense came out, which was like a 50 page pamphlet
that Thomas Payne wrote basically saying we got to we got to do something about this
because it's going to get worse before it gets better. And so it got passed around. People
read it in bars and shit. They would
read it at local get-togethers.
Just pretty much outlining the
necessity for
the colonies to separate themselves
in Great Britain at the time.
21 signers of the Declaration
of Independence were Masons. 14
U.S. presidents have been Masons.
Okay. Interesting.
Only 14? Yeah.
31%.
So
with common sense,
this was probably the most influential thing written in the 1700s up to that point.
I'm trying to think what we would consider a modern-day common sense,
that like most people have read that most people, that's changed the world.
The Jersey Shore note.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Ron.
No, Sammy.
Ron.
The first night at bed.
The first night.
I don't even know what the note is.
What is that?
What is the Jersey Shore note?
No, either.
It's stupid.
Two Americas.
Two Americas.
What do you think the other, it's definitely the Bible.
So other than the Bible, what is the most read book in America over the last, let's say, 25 years?
Art of the deal.
Twilight.
Is it close second?
No, 50 shades of gray.
50 shades of gray was definitely.
It probably is something like that, honestly.
I want to say probably like the Harry Potter books, maybe.
Yeah, it could be.
most read book
It says on here
Um
You're pulling to me right now
Well there's different
There's different like
Ways list of best selling books
A Tale of Two cities
By Charles Dickens
One is to kill a mockingbird
Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone is up there
Yeah I was right
Yeah
So on this on Amazon says
So number one is the Bible
Two is the Quran
The three is the Harry Potter series
Yeah.
Hmm.
Wow.
Were there any hidden messages in that?
The Alchemist is up there.
I've read that book.
The Diary Van Frank.
The Twilight Saga.
Lion Witch and the Wardrobe sold a lot of copies.
Think and Grow Rich.
I've read that too.
I feel like everybody had a copy of the Giving Tree grown up.
Like, I felt basic.
Some of my books that I've read is on the top.
And by the way, we are Team Tree.
that kid was a piece of shit
I don't remember what happened in that
I know I've read it but I don't remember
Is there anyone that isn't?
I don't like the message of the book
is like it's supposed to be a happy relationship
between the boy and his tree
but that boy just takes that tree for all his worth
and doesn't give a shit about him
That's kind of the point
I don't think it's supposed to have that message at the end
where it's like this kid's a piece of shit
I think the message that the book tries to convey
is that it was a good
like brotherhood that the two had
I think an astute reader such as yourself
Big T came to the natural conclusion which is like
this kid this kid sucks
or took all the stuff from him
or like the kid built a house out of the tree
yeah and then at the end
then at the end cut him down to a stump and was like
wow now I can even sit on you and the tree's dead
well i think it was because yo dude
like stop hanging out with the tree go get some bitches
and he did and he built a house out of the tree
the tree was like if you're hanging out with the tree all day you're not going to get any
bitches yeah so go get some bitches and you can make a house out of me when you get a wife
you have no hose yeah you spend all your time talking to a tree
yeah
yeah i guess maybe the tree was a good wingman i don't know i'm willing to be educated
have my mind changed on that yeah
so we started to get together
Thomas Payne gives a big speech in a church and says
I know not what course others may take but as for me
give me liberty or give me death
and basically like a lot of this stuff that happened
was just people getting drunk in a bar and getting riled up about stuff
all time I mean as quotes go
all time quote top 10
it is a good one yeah I mean
like that that'll rile the troops to this day
Yep
Braveheart
That quote was
The Braveheart quote was based off that quote
I don't care what anyone says
Because historically I don't think William Wallace said that shit
Which part?
Freedom
Yeah
Or every man dies
Not every man truly lives
Yeah
That's a good one too
Freedom
Oh I thought Drake said that
So
April 18th
1775
Paul Revere, he rode his little horse from Charlestown to Lexington
because he saw that the British were marching from Boston to seize the colonial armory at Concord.
So at Concord, they had a bunch of guns, a bunch of artillery and shit,
and they dispatched some knight riders that would go out there and see if the British were going to invade.
So it wasn't just Paul Revere.
Paul Revere gets all the shine for that.
Billy can you look up real quick
who else made the ride with Paul Revere
because there's a bunch of people
that everyone talks about
Paul Revere had a great marketing team afterwards
he gets credit for that entire thing
I think a woman actually
hit more places than
Paul Reveal. Oh yeah? Yeah
Paul Revere he was snitching
yeah
Samuel Prescott Israel Bissell
William Dawes and Sybil Ludington
there wasn't
All right so shout out the whole crew
not just Paul Revere.
Yeah.
Civil Luddington.
Yeah.
Was a woman.
And she worn more people?
Yep.
All right.
So they warned all the Minutemen.
And the Minutemen were all across the colonies.
They were just militia members that were designed to get ready for a fight because they knew the fight was coming.
So Paul Revere and Sybil Ludington and Israel and all those other people that Billy named,
they rode their horses
warned the troops that were at Concord
that hey there's 700 British dudes
that are coming up let's
fuck them up
so they meet on
Lexington Green and then nobody
knows who fired the first shot
which probably means that we did
because history is written
by the victors right? Good
I'm glad we did it
if we're saying that we don't know who did it
that probably that probably means
we did it
Because if there was any doubt at all that we didn't, we'd be like, yeah, they, they, they shot it.
So, uh, so there's a battle there. And then, um, the British got beat down at Concord. So we kind of
retreated a little bit from Lexington. And then, um, we got some reinforcements. And we beat Britain
back and they got really embarrassed. And then they came back. They tried to regroup. And then we had
some snipers that started shooting at them.
So this is another thing where
maybe inflation makes a difference,
but the stats, the tail of the tape
for the battles of Lexington and Concord
were we killed 273
British and they killed
like 90 to 100
Americans.
Yep. So we won.
Yeah.
But
we won it.
Yeah, a lot of these battles, you know,
how much of, I think
the percentage of people
who actually fought in the revolution
compared to the population
was a lot smaller than you think.
Stir about with Chile.
So in 1775,
Great Britain, their
strategy was they got to figure out a way
to get more troops,
get people to beat us on our own soil.
The British
governor of Virginia, who was
Lord Dunmore and November 1775 issued a proclamation offering freedom to any slaves of rebellious
Americans who are able to enter British lines. So basically if you could get to our side and fight
with us, you're free. You're a free person. So then tens of thousands of people, tens of thousands
of African Americans joined the British Army to fight against the colonists at that point. And then
some people fought on the pro-independent side as well.
But there were a lot more that fought with the British.
And you can't blame them.
I don't think that the British governor of Virginia had any interest in
like being a good person or abolishing slavery since a lot of the money that
Great Britain was making was coming from exports from the colonies that were produced
using slave labor.
I don't think they had any intention of.
honoring like the abolition of slavery.
They just need more people to come fight with them and potentially die.
So they said, okay, we'll set you free if you do fight for us.
And so then the first major battle was Bunker Hill.
And that battle lasted like two hours.
That's such a long time to have a fight to have like an all-out battle.
It's a two-hour battle.
And then the Patriots had to abandon their position.
but they fought good enough to kind of show that they mean business so there were 2,200
british that were seeing action there and then more than a thousand ended up dead or wounded
that's a pretty pretty solid kd ratio it was it was uh one to two no it was two to one kd we had
450 casualties they had a thousand fifty four yeah but they had more people than us
so they were able to like withstand all those casualties but it was a uh it's the
A moral victory, which sounds like loser talk, but it was, it showed that we could hang in there.
Then July 4th, 1776, the Declaration of Independence, written by Thomas Jefferson.
It was voted on the first time on July 2nd.
And then July 4th, they adopted it as an official document.
We had old Johnny H. put his big ass signature down at the bottom, kind of a look at me move.
200 copies were made
oh really
yeah where are they
different places
library of congress
there's probably some floating around out there
pretty sure there's some and some private collections
there so speaking of slavery there was actually
a part of the declaration of independence that was deleted later
that was um it was taken out before it got signed
jefferson wrote an entire i think it was like two paragraphs
about the abomination that is slavery
and how the government of England
has used slave labor and expanded slave labor
and started wars in Africa
and just fucked up the world
by relying on slave labor
and they took that out at the last minute
because some of the southern states didn't like it very much
so he deleted and also let's be honest
Thomas Jefferson had a lot of slaves
he was he was a slave owner writing about
how bad owning slaves was.
And raped a lot of them.
Rape a lot of them.
Bad guy.
And so, there are a lot of Thomas Jefferson apologists being like, yeah, he had slaves,
but he was a good slave owner.
He treated them well.
He treated them well.
Your boy, Ron DeSantis, doing he's on a whole press store doing that shit right now.
What do you say?
He was, he's basically saying, we often tell the bad tell the slave.
We're going to paraphrase, but he goes on to say like, but there's a lot of people that end up having trades jobs and prospering after we abolish slavery.
It's like, yeah, we're shut the fuck up.
It's just the silliest takeover.
They're rewriting the, they're trying to get a new narrative in Florida education system trying to posit slavery as not all that bad.
It was bad, but we don't ever tell the good side of slavery.
Ron is watched.
Yeah, if you want to know, Vivek.
Vevac, what's he pulling at like 3%?
No, it's like 6 now.
He's in third and hasn't even had a debate yet.
He's going to win, but continue.
I don't know about that.
Trump is going to absolutely destroy him.
No, Trump likes him because he said he thought Trump was a good president,
which was a good strategy by him.
And Trump has never, ever turned on somebody that he said that he likes before.
I'm just telling you, just watch the first debate.
Okay.
All right.
You're not going to debate, though.
Who?
Trump. Oh, I don't care
of, I'm talking about Vivek. I don't care if Trump
does. Oh, okay. I'm sure
he'll hold his own in the debate, but I don't
he's at 6% like that's
that's bad. For having
zero name neck recognition and not having done
a debate yet, that's outstanding.
I don't know if I'd say outstanding,
but we'll see.
So,
hey, what was this Thomas Jefferson
thing called this extra? I haven't
never heard of this. The
extra, what was it on? It was in the
Declaration of Independence, and he took it out. They made him take it out. But again, he was so full
of shit. If you want to know Thomas Jefferson's real opinions about African Americans, read notes
on the state of Virginia that he wrote. And it's one of the more racist things that you'll
ever read in your entire life. But he tried to claim the moral high ground in the declaration.
So after the Declaration of Independence gets adopted, kind of puts a big target on a lot of people's
backs because they said, yeah, we're out, peace. We're, we're an open rebellion against you right now.
We admit it. And then American Captain Nathan Hale got captured by the British because
they were fighting on Long Island. And he got, he got captured and they hanged him. And he actually
had, this is maybe the best quote. If you go back and you look at give me liberty or give me
death, this is a dude that knows that he's about to die. And his quote was, I only regret
that I have but one life to lose
for my country.
Hell yeah.
This dude wanted to die ten times.
I thought I'm saying. I couldn't imagine.
Also, call it my country.
The country had existed for
like a month and a half at this point.
He's coming on a little bit strong.
I don't even think your country loves you back, dude.
That's getting the championship tattoo in the preseason.
That's balzy.
It is.
That's getting married.
Vegas someone you just said yeah yeah it's no it's like proposing after you've been
after you've been after on your second date we're in love right you're not even you're
not even exclusive it's kind of little because you like you rebel and then you like oh fuck
fuck that we started out oh it's us like fuck them this is us I'm riding for the squad I respect
yeah I mean he was the first to really say like I'm riding for the squad as he's about to
get killed probably a lot of people were like okay if he's if he's riding the non-riding
and give people someone to like you know they say remember the alamo people were probably like
i'm gonna it does suck that i can only die once for nathan hale he probably made a lot more
people die because he said that actually yeah no doubt so um we started take some ls and
george was in charge of leading the continental army and we started to get beat back a little bit
we got driven out of new york city we got driven through new jersey the british were
dominating us and we regrouped on Christmas night and there was like a bunch of fog and we crossed
the Delaware River because at the time it wasn't just the British Army and they also had a
bunch of Hessians which are where the Prussians tell me about tell me about Hessians I mean
Germany has had such a long history of having warriors to hire dating back to the Varanian Guard
who were just Vikings
and these Hessians were
Prussians just of a different kingdom
they wore green coats
and they were notorious
for surrendering because they didn't really give a fuck
because they were mercenaries.
So easy target
on Christmas night when these dudes just wanted to booze
and they were missing home in Crampus.
Yeah, they were fucked up.
They were really drunk.
Yeah.
And so this,
goes back to like the rules of war where they're like surely surely they won't try to attack us on
christmas eve we're all just going to get drunk and hang out and have a great time but um washington
took his troops across the delaware and arrived in trenton they took 900 prisoners and it kind of
it gave us a little bit of fuel it gave us like we it was a much needed victory that we needed at that
point and then there's also that sick painting of george washington standing up on a
as he's crossed in Delaware.
I don't think that's how it happened, but it looks awesome.
I'm pretty sure a lot of the Hessians actually ended up joining the Continental Army
and settled a lot of Pennsylvania.
Yeah.
Do you think so?
Maybe wrong on that.
Okay.
But you know, it's actually a very fun fact about a lot of this post-revolution.
Do you notice how a lot of towns in upstate New York have a lot of classical names?
Like Syracuse, Rome, New York, or Mount Sinai, or it's kind of cool because basically a lot of these revolutionary soldiers after the war, they were given tracks of land all across the northeast.
So they just decide to like name them whatever they wanted, be it a town that their family was from or in Britain or just like a place of classical antiquity.
so like Bethlehem Pennsylvania or biblical places so that's why they had all those like
because it was it was weird like I was like Nazareth yeah Nazareth like why why is upstate
New York have so many like Greek and Roman like stuff from the Odyssey in the Iliad and that was the
reason because all these Patriots were like oh let's let's what am I going to name my tract of land
Hmm. I don't know that. Have you guys heard of the Battle of Moores Creek?
I'd love to hear more.
Moores Creek Bridge. This is February 1776. It was a battle between people from the United States.
We fought against ourselves because there were the loyalists that didn't want to start a new country.
Yeah, the loyalists that were siding with the Brits. And then there were the Patriots.
and they got into a fight
at Moores Creek Bridge
it's Wilmington, North Carolina
is where it's at
so a lot of people down in North Carolina
they spoke like Scottish
they spoke Gaelic
and they did a highland charge
across the bridge
so it was like the loyalists
people that wanted to stay with Great Britain
they got swords and shit
and they charged across this bridge
screaming in Gaelic like their like their braveheart like they're William Wallace so they're
charging across this bridge trying to attack people that want to separate from Great Britain and then
the Patriots had muskets in artillery and they just they killed everybody they killed a whole
shitload of people and then at that point it kind of became suppressed and there were not that
many more loyalists that even existed in North Carolina or any of the Carolinas at that point
after that battle. Seems like a pretty one-sided battle.
What was the justification to be a loyal?
Like, how did they justify themselves?
It's a good question.
My guess would be the people that were going through the least amount of personal discomfort at the time.
Right.
People that might not have had businesses that were impacted by the taxes.
People that were doing well on their own.
they're just kind of like why are we upset
why are we going to upset the apple cart
things are pretty good
I'm going to stay loyal
that would be my guess
a lot of them were involved in government
and had direct ties to Britain
so like the tax man
he was like Britain pays me to collect taxes
if I my only skill is being the tax man
and counting
coins so if that goes away
what am I going to do
yeah I mean if you were rich and British
like what do you care
right things are pretty good
so
so yeah there's
there's loyalists but they pretty much start to get pretty quiet
after 1776
and the tide starts to turn a little bit
and
the British try to take over Charleston South Carolina
like a bachelor at party and they mounted
an all-day attack on Sullivan's Island
and they could not land their troops on the island
because the waters,
if you've ever been down to Charleston Harbor
or to Charleston,
they got some fucked up tides
so they couldn't figure out how to get their ships in.
They still have some of the cannons down there on Sullivan's Island
that you can see that they use to fire shots
at the invading British Navy.
But cannons must have been so inaccurate.
You're trying to shoot like 500, 600 yards, maybe longer.
And they don't really have that much of an aiming,
mechanism you just kind of like kind of guess and then you shoot and then you see where it hit
and then you reload shoot again it seems like a very labor intensive process yeah it's
pretty coarse yeah it was very obtuse show force yeah so um so we keep fighting we keep fighting
there's a battle of saratoga a bunch of shit happened there uh do you guys know about
john paul jones the pirate
John Paul Jones
the naval captain
Has the sickest tomb in the world
Where is it?
It's at the Naval Academy
Was did we
I think we discussed it on this show many like years ago
Google
John Paul Jones
Tomb
It's it's like a
A crypt
And in the middle of it is his casket
And it has like
Sea stuff all in it
It's sick
Navy made there
their football uniforms against Army two or three years ago based on it.
It's awesome.
It is pretty dope.
So Billy might not be entirely incorrect about John Paul Jones.
He was from Scotland, and he was accused of being a pirate.
Yeah, that's, yeah, exactly.
And he was a huge help to the U.S. Navy during the revolution
because he had so much experience fighting privateers and British ships.
I would watch a movie about John Paul Jones.
so he he claimed to have survived several mutinies
and he would like kill his his crewmates with a sword
because he's like they're trying to take over the ship
but he was also when he was in Scotland
they thought he was a pirate and so then he kind of
he got out of town
because they were looking for him for murder
and he fled to Virginia
and then he found he founded
or helped to find
the continental navy
and then he commanded US Navy
ships. He led a failed assault on Britain and several attacks on British merchant ships. And
then later on in his life, he joined the Imperial Russian Navy. This dude just bounced all. This
dude just loved to fight at sea. This guy, this is a hard man. Wow. He's, isn't he the guy
that said, we got a lot of great quotes coming out of this episode, but he said, I've not yet
begun to fight during a battle that lasted for hours. Yeah. He just like to scrap. I've heard that
I forget where it's from.
I think it's from like some anime
what we do is like
he's like,
niggas,
I'm fighting to save the day.
Really,
nigger,
I just like to fight.
I don't care about none of that shit.
I forget what that's all.
So he was described by
Walter Herrick as
a sailor of indomitable courage
of strong will and of great ability
in his chosen career.
He was also a hypocrite,
a brawler,
a rake,
and a professional and social
climber yeah i need to move you out of this guy need to move you out of this guy absolutely also so
you get fun fact about the continental army uh george washington made sure made sure that they were all
inoculated for smallpox because disease was such a huge part of war at that time uh george
washington who had had smallpox in a young age made sure that uh all of his troops got
inoculated, which at the time, I think, involved basically wiping pus on a cut in its
very basic form to ensure that the troops had resistance against smallpox. But yeah, Washington
was pro-vax. Yep. So we get into it more with the British. They start to British, Great Britain's
army is like way bigger. Their Navy's bigger. They start to, they start to,
slowly eat away at our numbers and we don't have that many numbers to begin with so we send our
ace in the hole over to France to try to convince France to join our side that'd be bin
Franklin big and he spends most of his time over there just banging whores yeah which he loved
can you imagine that trip you go you spend like how long would that take a month I mean month on a
boat he literally was just in France fuck bitches get money like he was just getting money from the
French and having sex with
Parisian prostitians. Jefferson, too, for
a long time. Yeah. Yeah.
You got to be horny as fuck to get
on a month-long boat ride
just to get laid.
Especially considering the quality of the boats
back then. That's kind of a real indictment
on American women
in the 1700s.
The thing is, there weren't that many women in America
at this time.
At all.
Really?
Sausage Fest. America was a
sausage fest.
So we cook
We cook hot dogs
American women
So like
British women
Right
Which
There was a whole land
Of people here
Yeah
No but like
If you look at the populations
It was very male skewed
Because a lot of it was men
Coming from different countries
And like think about the law
The colonized parts
That's what I'm saying
Yeah
Yes the colonized parts
But I'm talking about
There were still people here
In civilizations
Right
Farther West
Mmhmm
Preexisting
So, so we send, we send Ben Franklin over to France to be like, you know, please try to at least talk to one government official and get them to join our side.
So Franklin goes over there on a, I guess you could say like a pussy and naval expedition to try to bring back one of the two, if not both.
And he ends up convincing France to join our side.
We get it kind of pinned in by some of the British down in, in North Carolina.
And we have a big battle at Guilford Courthouse, which was a British victory, even though, again, our strategy is like, just we have a lot of moral victories in this war.
We keep showing up, playing teams close, covering the spread, and we're a feisty team.
You don't want to, you don't want to play against us.
They're kind of like, is kind of how it's going.
The 2008 New York Giants, they like didn't win that much, but they just went on a great run at the end and beat the English.
because if you look at the Revolutionary War battles,
there are so many Ls for the Patriots.
Like, I think the British won the majority of the battles.
Yeah, they did.
We outperformed expectations for like six years in a row.
Qualified for the playoffs.
Yeah, when are they going to win the big one?
There are a lot of question marks about us.
Well, we got France on the horn,
and we told them where we were at fighting some battles in North Carolina.
Southern Virginia, and then we end up kind of luring Cornwallis and a lot of the British
army into stationing themselves in like central to south, south-eastern Virginia. Oh, and also there's
this asshole named Benedict Arnold that just totally, he sold us out. A dentist. And switch
sides. Do you know, uh, do you know about his wife? No. So some people have theorized that he,
became a traitor because his wife loved um she came from a really rich family and when the
british occupied philadelphia she would go to these really lavish parties at like
british officers houses and stuff and so she was a big fan she was like i love the british
and so that's what some people think he may have switched up because of uh to appease his wife
sad you hate to see it whipped to the max yeah big time big time and so uh he tried to give
all sorts of designs and plans to um to the british army and we ended up catching him because
somebody that we captured behind enemy lines like a spy that was traveling down a road got
apprehended by the uh the patriot army and so we found all this like these secret plans for some
of our forts and some of our battle plans that were clearly written by uh benedict arnold and we're like
okay we can't trust that dude anymore so uh cornwallis thinks that he's he's beating us he's feeling
pretty good about himself and we get into a fight with him outside yorktown virginia and the
french and american troops teamed up we pushed him out onto the peninsula and then the french
Navy beat off the British Navy and trapped him. And so Cornwallis was forced to surrender.
And the crazy thing is when Cornwallis surrendered, Great Britain still controlled New York.
They controlled Charleston. They controlled a good amount of land. But we just had, we had their
army that was pinned in. So he had to turn over sword, surrender there. And then about two years
later we signed an official peace treaty and then america was born baby do you think that do you think we
should celebrate the fourth of july or do you think that we should celebrate the day that yorktown
was surrendered well i like the fourth of july it's great date in the summer it's like
early with still a lot of summer left i was going to say when's that date again i don't think it's a
good day.
Let's see.
October 19th.
No.
That's right around.
We already got Halloween.
It can't be a 10th.
Yeah.
July 4th just sounds so, it's a nice, single digit, perfect summer day.
They also said, they also called on the Siege of Yorktown the German battle because there
was Germans in all three armies that participated.
They played all sides?
Yeah.
The Germans were just.
filling in for everybody I don't even think they didn't really know like they're
just fighting for money so yeah so then we we got the British but the French
will tell you that that we got them so I don't know leave your own jump to your own
conclusion of that one I think we've repaid that debt and then some to France yeah
they'll be all right so the bottom line is we won
We won the Revolutionary War.
And then, much to France's chagrin, they supported us in our battle against the colonial powers and supported our revolution amongst the commoners.
And then just a few short years later, they're like, oh, shit, we kind of established a dangerous precedence here.
Now all of our citizens are going to try to take us out.
And then the French Revolution happened.
Everybody got the head.
So that would be another good episode to do, would be the French Revolution.
very different we set a bad we set a bad example for him yeah all those
enlightenment thinkers all of our documents we have anything else who want to cover on the
revolutionary war a lot of the british soldiers would be actors in new york city when they
weren't fighting and uh actors at the old st john old john street theater 1791 uh they
the while the british army held new york city they they
passed the time by acting in Broadway
shows. Their most popular shows were Shakespearean
plays, chosen both for the sophisticated material
in their British origins. Though they never
wrote and performed any original plays, the soldiers
turned actors were known for inserting their own prologs,
which were filled with pro-British sediments.
Some colonists armies attempted to put
on their own theatrical performances, but never
managed such fully realized plays.
So Broadway was
pretty loyalist back
in the day.
Interesting.
Are they good actors?
We don't know.
I think this was at the time when only men were allowed to act.
So a lot of these British were dressing up as Quinn and Puck from Midsummer Night's Dream when they weren't fighting.
Paul Revere was a dentist.
Okay.
And much of the wars were fought by Minutemen who were militiamen and didn't have formal army trading like the Continental Army, but were just a bunch of dudes grabbing guns and fighting off the British.
very underrated college nickname
the UMass Minutemen
it's because they're terrible at every sport
but that's a great team name
yeah I agree
I agree with that have you guys seen the Patriot
of course
Braveheart too
it's pretty good
yeah
it's pretty good there's a cannonball decapitation
if that's your sort of thing
the headless horseman
was a Hessian
mercenary that was beheaded by a cannibal
apparently, and that's the basis for the Sleepy Hollow Headless Horsman myth with Iqabod Crane.
Hmm.
One fact.
All right.
Anything else, boys?
Girls?
We won.
Yeah.
We won, bottom line.
Pretty sick war.
Charlotte was called, one of the reasons why there's a Charlotte Hornets is because Charlotte was said to be a Hornets nests of revolutionary.
and should be avoided by the British Army at all costs,
which impacted the trajectory of the route the British Army
took to the Battle of Yorktown
and said that it caused them to be weaker
for the eventual siege at Yorktown.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Charlotte Hornets, great logo.
Great jersey colors.
If they were good, everybody would have Charlotte Hornets gear.
90s Hornet stuff was way better
George Washington
ceding power
set a great precedent
on the rest of the nation
because a lot of people
just wanted to do the next king
they begged him to be president
and he didn't want to do it
but they had to beg him to do it
and he chose the term president
or they chose the term president together
because it implied
something not very
super powerful
Like if you were president back then, it meant you were like the leader of a local group of businessmen or something like that.
It had nothing to do with government with having absolute power.
They chose like a beta name for it.
And then he ran twice and then he declined to run a third time.
And then everybody else from that point on was basically like, well, George only did it twice.
So far be it from me to try to run a third time until FDR.
They also tried to assassinate him.
The British said?
No, no.
Some of his own people in 1776.
It was actually his bodyguard was the only one convicted.
Turned on him.
Yeah.
The committee whose information saved Washington's life would go on to lay the groundwork for the modern day CIA.
Okay.
Good facts.
There was a...
All right, boys.
10% of the Continental Army's funding was sent towards military intelligence
in a group of spies that were based mainly in New York
who spied on British officers.
A lot of them were prostitutes.
It works.
That's like MK. Ultra.
Yeah.
Drugs, sex.
The culpros spire.
Yeah.
They've figured out a lot of Red Coats' plans to ambush.
ambush newly arrived to French troops in Rhode Island
This coper spy ring
achieved more than any other American or British intelligence
network during the war
All right, well
That does it for the American Revolution
For this episode
We will see you guys next Tuesday
Special episode next Tuesday
Big T, Arian special guest
And then on
Thursday, we've got the Boston bombing episode coming out. So check into that, read up on that
interesting stuff that maybe hasn't been discussed as much in the news as actually the bombing
and the chase of the culprits, which we will get into those too, but the background behind
it is fascinating too. So we will see you guys next Tuesday. Love you guys.
Thank you.
