Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Titanic

Episode Date: September 14, 2021

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the crew talks about the ship that was sunk by an iceberg that killed 1,500 people...or was it? You'll hear everything from movie comparisons to conspiracies between... the Titanic and the Olympic. Was the ship swapped out? Is Rose responsible for Jack's death? Find out all of this and more on today's show. Also, voicemails are BACK in a big way.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. This is a sad episode, man. I don't know if you watched the Titanic in preparation for this, but it's fucking sad, man. I did not watch the Titanic in preparation for this. I listened to several podcasts. I did some research. I did my own research, Aaron.
Starting point is 00:00:21 I don't trust the Hollywood Libs to tell me what the real story behind the Titanic is. But that's fine if you feel like you're prepared with all the facts. from, you know, the mainstream propaganda, that's okay. I am not, I am not prepared, but I did take the bait, hook, line, the sinker, and my heartstrings are pulled that a bunch of people died at sea. Mm-hmm. It's a tough, it's a tough way to go. Drowning, drowning and fire are the two, like, those are the, you know, if you go out like that,
Starting point is 00:00:55 it's probably fire is the worst for me and then drowning because, like, no air is, it's tough. nowhere is really tough and even in your last minutes in the water out of the titanic you're just really cold which sucks just being in cold waters is awful freezing to death i have heard just as sort of like the hypothermia hits you start to feel really warm and it's sort of like if i release is i have heard he said are you heard from people that froze like like hypers like people on everest and stuff they sort of just they freeze to death and it's like their body just sort of like the blood freezes before they can figure out what's really going on. I've heard stuff like that too where your body, your body mostly just shuts down.
Starting point is 00:01:36 So you get really, really cold. You're really cold for a while. Yeah. But then as soon as you start to get into dangerous levels of being cold, your body just kind goes into this warm zone where you just kind of drift out. And then you probably, that's when you slip under the water and you're too cold to like struggle to breathe. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Then you just go down. Be wrong. Yeah. Fire would be terrible. Fire would be awful. I think choking would be bad because honestly if I was choking on something, if I was at home eating a meal, let's say I was by myself in my apartment and I'm eating General So's chicken and I try to eat a piece and I just start choking on it. And my last thoughts are this is the corneous way to die ever. Like a fucking piece of chicken is taking me out while I'm alone in my house. Like at least let me go out on, you know, like a bad batch of acid or something like that. I would like to see, remember how we did the stats, like, if you could do stats, if you, if, like, what would your stat line be if you could die? Like, what would, this would be an interesting stat.
Starting point is 00:02:40 The amount of people that the, the last thought in the head is like either not like this or like, I mean, fuck it. If I'm going to go out, this is a way to go out. Like, I want to know what the percentage points on that one would be. Yeah. Well, you want to do a real quick draft to the best ways to die? if you had to pick if it's got to happen in your sleep
Starting point is 00:03:03 and your sleep is number one and it's not number one dog I'll tell you why it's number that is the folly and I'll tell you why they feel that shit they feel that shit in their dreams
Starting point is 00:03:14 and this is how I know I had a panic attack that woke me up out of my sleep and in my dream my chest was heavy as hell in my dream so I had a panic attack they feel that shit
Starting point is 00:03:25 so it might sound sweet but they still feel that shit I guarantee you feel that shit I think if people just die in bed you're like oh it was really peaceful but sometimes yeah they might feel it or they're you know they're having a heart attack while they happen to be laying down and they're like oh shit
Starting point is 00:03:40 this is the big one what did what did Sanford and son say was his wife's name Elizabeth was Elizabeth I'm coming for you that dude had a heart attack like every episode was an awesome show I never really watched it I only watch it because I would watch Atlanta Braves baseball
Starting point is 00:03:56 games and my grandparents and on tbs that was their rain delay go-to show was just here's another we're going to pump another sanford and son into your living room tv land yeah those were always there with bonanza and mash yeah i would i would say uh during sex would be pretty good like but like like like like of a heart attack or something yeah matthew mcana hay said that his dad had always said that he was going to go out making love to his wife which is weird for like your dad to say to to always be saying all the time. And then sure enough, one day, he did.
Starting point is 00:04:30 They were fucking and his dad had a heart attack and died. Shut the father. I heard that's how James Gandalfini died. During sex? Yeah. That'd be, I mean, respect to a legend. I think it sucks for like the cleanup, but I think just the bullet to the brain, man.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. You don't feel much, just boom. Get it over with it. But bullet to the brain. No struggle. But bullet up to the brain where it's not like you're in a holdup. Like, it's a drive-by. You don't even know what happened.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Yeah. Just boom. That's what I'm saying. I think context matters, too. Yeah, you don't want to have a gun in your head and you know it. If you get shot in your head, I feel like it's a lot better if you do it, jumping in front of a pregnant woman who's about to get shot. Yeah, true.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And then you're a hero, as opposed to just be like, I don't know, you're in a gun store and you're shopping for a gun and you hold it, it goes off and it hits you in the head accidentally. That's true. That's a bad way to die. What on? Jeez, this is dark. No, I mean, death is a big part of life.
Starting point is 00:05:24 It is the most important part of life actually Everybody dies It's allegedly There's this there's this one guy Long long time ago That has this telephone game Story about him I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:05:41 I said allegedly Did you guys think there's more evidence But did he? But that's the thing Hold on hold on hold on That's the thing about this whole Jesus story right It's like I'm not even against it Right was low key a good guy right
Starting point is 00:05:54 Like you, guy. Loki, Jesus was pretty chill. I don't really have a problem with Jesus, right? He said a lot of dope shit. But, like, you died, right? And then you came back. So, like, what was it the sacrifice? There was really no sacrifice.
Starting point is 00:06:11 It was, it was a temporary, like, he was in a coma. Like, he was in a, okay. But then he disappeared after to go to heaven. That's what I'm saying. So this is all allegedly. interesting if there was a dude who survives a crucifixion though that's pretty badass like crucifixion
Starting point is 00:06:31 they still do that shit in some places and it's fucked Jesus didn't tap people yeah they're like they're because of the weights of your arms yeah I've seen I've seen a shirt that says that in like the MMA community head I was about to say it had to be an MMA suit you see some of those guys getting an armbard
Starting point is 00:06:51 and their elbows pop out And then the ref has to stop the fight That's what happened to Jesus Submission moves People who are like sick at submissions Are like some of the scariest people I feel like they're almost like wild animals Yeah
Starting point is 00:07:04 That know the perfect killing technique Kabib It's not I got my one of my first time I was doing Jiu-Jitsu I got tapped by a fucking 16 year old Who weighs like 145 I just didn't know what I was doing
Starting point is 00:07:15 And this fucker tapped me And I was like no fucking way dog I wanted to fight him I wanted to fight him He was like a fan She was like, I'm sorry, man. I was like, bro, you got me. You got me.
Starting point is 00:07:25 You wanted to fight him. But the same shit would happen again if you try to fight him. 100%. No, I can get him now. I can get him now. No, I can get him now. I know what I'm doing now. So Billy, you just said, is there more evidence for Bigfoot or Jesus?
Starting point is 00:07:37 Yeah, dude. I mean, think about it. Like, let's do a hypothetical scenario. Could you provide more evidence for Bigfoot than God? Than God or Jesus? Yeah, there's two different people allegedly. Jesus? Because I definitely believe that.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Jesus was a person, like there's way too many accounts from various different sources. That's debatable. I usually concede that just to get the conversation going, but it's definitely, it's not cut and drive stuff. I love that Aryan has that, like, in his backpocket. Usually I concede that point. Like, you get into debates on whether or not Jesus live. How many times a week?
Starting point is 00:08:14 They tried me on that one before. I used to. I used to a lot. Because when you come out as atheist, like, everybody, you get, you know, especially in the south, and I went to the University of Tennessee, so where it's like, it was the Bible Belt, like, one of my really good friends now, uh, the first thing we were like, we talking about you in a group of like kids talking and wherever, everybody's from different places. And, uh, the first thing we talked about was religion. And like, I told him I wasn't
Starting point is 00:08:40 Christian. And that's like, I don't believe in Jesus. And he was like, you don't believe with Jesus. And I was like, well, you know, you're going to hell, right? Like, I was the first person he's ever saw that didn't believe in Jesus. Like, this is pre-internet. So it was like, it was an anomaly. actually fascinated by something you said though because like obviously you can debate if jesus was divine whatever the son of god i don't know that i've ever heard somebody say jesus didn't exist like there was a dude named jesus in nazareth like whether he did some of the things you think he did or not like i i don't know that i've ever heard somebody dispute his existence
Starting point is 00:09:15 no that's definitely disputable what i'm saying is more than likely i would i usually concede that is what I'm saying. Yeah, it was probably a dude that existed that did some cool shit, like was like nice to people or whatever. And I think his legend grew. And I think that's what the whole story. It's like a big, it's like a Bible, a Bible game of telephone. Like, like one one day, like help a lady carry your groceries, 2,000 years later, you walk on water. You know, it was probably something like that. But I do remember like the Romans had accounts of a dude named Jesus who was riling up all the Hebrews. Like he was, I mean, like they had like police reports. about from all like their are they colony or territories that they've conquered and like yeah man there's
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Starting point is 00:11:44 so at the very least the Bigfoot witnesses or at least eyewitnesses the none of the accounts Jesus are actually eyewitnesses. They're written 40 to 100 years after he was supposedly got crucified. What about the apostles, though? No. None of them saw him. But they all knew him. No. There's no eyewitness accounts of Jesus Christ in the Bible. There's zero. So at the Council of Nicaea, when they're writing the books of the Bible and they write the gospel of Luke, the gospel of Paul, et cetera, et cetera, I thought that they took some of those accounts from letters that were written by them. I don't know. I could be really wrong.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I haven't really looked into it that much. Big Chief probably knows. Paul. Paul never met Jesus. Didn't they go fishing again? Did you Paul? Yeah. Hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Let me just double back. Where's the fact check guy? Go ahead, Billy. What's he's doing? No one's ever gone fishing with Bigfoot that we know it. That's true. I would like, did you just just go fishing? Was he just like a, he was a dude that had like a.
Starting point is 00:12:48 There were a couple times he went fishing. Chevy Silverado, Yetty cooler in the back. None of the New Testament authors ever met you. No free ads. That's true, yeah. The only company I'll give a free ad to is Bass Pro Shop for the pyramid in Memphis, Tennessee. That is the most amazing place.
Starting point is 00:13:05 I saw your tweet about that. We should talk about that. Yeah. No, it's just the, it's the most amazing place. The history of that building is fascinating, too, of how it eventually became a Bass Pro shop. And it's the sister city of Memphis, Egypt, which is why they built the pyramid there. I think that the Bass Pyramid Bass Pro Shop in Memphis, Tennessee is the best building in the United States.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I think it's number one. You can try to argue White House to me. You can try to argue whatever you want, the Guggenheim. I don't even know if people think that's a great museum. But for my money, there's nothing that symbolizes the greatness of America more than the Bass Pro Shop pyramid on the Mississippi River in Memphis, Tennessee. spin zone i've been getting i've been preemptively creating conspiracy theories that haven't been made up yet that i don't actually believe but i think people would connect the dots on i like it what if fast pro shops and subsidiaries are worshipping sun god and that's why they erected it raw
Starting point is 00:14:07 yeah they're worshipping raw in some sort of weird thing i like it yeah yeah why the fish is the logo the fish probably you know has to do some hunter-gatherer stuff and it's high it's no different from hieroglyphics erin definitely there is there fish for high have they been implicating any like you know human sacrifice cune on type stuff bass pro shop yeah definitely yeah i don't know on some like four chan message on some like four chan message board there's definitely some point They were like, you know, the Bass Pro Shop pyramid. They're doing human sacrifices to Aztec stuff. And, dude, the Bass Pro Shop pyramid, it has a, it's got like a hotel inside of it.
Starting point is 00:14:52 And you can, you can get a room that looks out over the indoor lake that they have that stocked with fish. That's actually so cool. I know. Somebody tweeted that at me this weekend. And if I lose the part of my take bet where I have to go across the country in a car for the Super Bowl, I'm absolutely staying in the Bass Pro Shop pyramid. It's so cool. Aryan, so... I didn't know how dope...
Starting point is 00:15:13 Oh, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. I was just going to say, this says Matthew, Mark, Peter, John, and Paul all knew Jesus personally. No, they didn't. And obviously, where's that from? Where's that from? It was all, all those accounts were written like 40 years after he died, like, four or even more. Where did you get in that from? This is NPR, which is actually generally fake news, so maybe that's not the best place, but...
Starting point is 00:15:37 Like, there are biblical historians who concede that point. That's not even arguable. Like, it's not even arguable. They didn't, like, nobody knew him. I actually want to talk about this one town in Alaska that I really wish I'd caught a listener. Macrodotodosian sent it to me. But there's this town in Alaska that was a fishing town. It was a canary.
Starting point is 00:16:04 They, like, were canning salmon. and it was settled back in like the 1700s and around the 1940s it was reported that several of the sheep hunters had gotten killed outside this town and basically a bunch of dismembered bodies and some of them missing had washed ashore and all the residents fled the town because something was killing all these hunters and townspeople and they think it was a bunch of big foots. But it hasn't really been substantiated because everyone ran away. I like that.
Starting point is 00:16:42 It's like the Croatone mystery in the Roanoke colonies. Yeah. Where the entire place was evacuated. All they found was like something carved into a tree. I always think it was a monster named Crowatone. That's what me and the hard factor guys, we used to have a theory about Roanoke growing up, they teach it all about Virginia history. And so we learned about the colonies there.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And so we came up with this big backstory, almost like a Greek mythological origin tale of Croatone, the sea monster. It just emerged from the ocean blasting ACDC and wiped out the colonies. But it sounds, yeah, it is. We should do a Roan Elk episode. Yeah, Roanoke. There are some crazy theories behind that, but I like any theory of a town that got abandoned because it got attacked by monsters.
Starting point is 00:17:25 I'm always on board for that. So that was this week's episode of Bigfoot or Jesus. Brought to you by Billy Football. Bigfoot had a lot of eyewitness counts. does you really a lot of people have said they've seen Bigfoot how many people
Starting point is 00:17:42 credibly have said that they see Bigfoot when you get into that and you start throwing those kind of things around somebody in the waters here they have found skeletons of
Starting point is 00:17:53 gigantopithecus Yeah gigantic Gigantopithecus No one's found any Jesus skeletons That's a good point They have They still have the washcloth
Starting point is 00:18:02 They've got the shroud of turn from Mary Magdalene. They have a Yeti scalp. What if the strata turn was like Jesus do rag? What if Jesus was just big foot shaving? And he goes out there waved up in the middle of the middle of us? No, he's a white guy.
Starting point is 00:18:18 We know he's a white guy hearing his blonde hair. Hey, a big T. Is Jesus white? Was Jesus white? Probably not, no. That's, wow. That's impressive. I did not expect that.
Starting point is 00:18:30 I mean, he lived in the Middle East. so i agree i saw a tic-tok i almost sent it to you guys i saw a ticot come up on my for you page and it was like what's one thing that um everyone thinks is in the bible but isn't and the girl like stitch and was like white people yeah it's actually funny like white people were just like the um and you know in game and thrones the guys who live north the wall them forgetting their names white walkers the wildlings yeah wildlings basically like you had a bunch of these like super pale dudes who grew up in the Arctic who just like raided down Europe and that's why most fits white nowadays like the Romans were probably like much darker than anyone thinks they're yeah like
Starting point is 00:19:14 Greek Italian yeah like real real real Greek Italian like darker skin darker hair yeah and Harriet I think I see where you and I were where we were talking about different stuff we agree Matthew Mark Luke and John all those guys knew Jesus we just don't know that they wrote all of those books that's what you're saying no i i don't think that they were um well i mean it's questionable that any of the niggas wrote any of that shit right well we don't we don't know exactly who wrote all of the gospels we assume some of it was those dudes but we're not entire there's no like we don't know this is this is what i'm saying like we don't know for fact that they actually
Starting point is 00:19:59 accompanied Jesus and hung out. Like none of this shit is like is any in any way kind of like provable. So it's like Bigfoot has more eyewitness accounts. Okay. By far. By far. Actually that's probably If you probably looked at the actual numbers because of how
Starting point is 00:20:22 small the population of Jerusalem was compared to today like there probably were more people who have claim to see Bigfoot than the people who claim to have seen Jesus. Hmm. We need to, we need a fact check this. Seems dubious. Population
Starting point is 00:20:39 of Jerusalem and Jesus time. How is that, how is it already my search history? What? They're listening. The algorithm has you dead to rights, Billy. Population of Jerusalem. I love how it's in Jesus time, which I felt in my brain is like a stupid way to describe.
Starting point is 00:20:58 like biblical times and it just had that like what the population of jerusalem was 882000 actually that's pretty that's higher than i thought come out there's a million people in no way no chance oh sorry this is in 2016 yep okay stick of it does that mean that jesus back okay he's back well never really left that's right he's in he's in your heart where two were more gathered The population of Jerusalem was about 50K
Starting point is 00:21:34 and it rose to like 125 during festivals when like the you know the farmers would come in to the city so yeah so probably I would say
Starting point is 00:21:43 only 10,000 people probably saw witness Jesus in person he didn't go like on tour I thought he went on tour did like road shows but he must have been
Starting point is 00:21:55 only touring Jerusalem so the most people probably seen was a hundred twenty five thousand he only went around jerusalem he was like a band that never got out of its first city i thought that he went all over the place well travel was a bit well the apostles the apostles who get a fucking cart to get a wagon the gospel claim that jesus visited numerous sites around martin day israel palestine egypt and lebanon so he's stuck in his in his area yeah he didn't go international no i don't think he went he stepped in modern day europe wow i didn't know that just a local egypt
Starting point is 00:22:27 How far did you think he went? I don't know. I thought that he, it's probably dumb of me to think this, but I thought that he made his way like to Africa, up to Italy, Rome. I guess he was only 33 when he died. The apostles, they were the spread. But you know who's been in Asia,
Starting point is 00:22:43 spotted in North America, South America too? And there was even sightings in Russia. Bigfoot. Bigfoot. Fact. And then it's brother the Yeti. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yeah. What was that you were saying a second to go, big tea about anywhere two people are gathered? Yeah, where two or more believers are gathered. So is the Lord, something like that? So the Lord isn't with you when you're, when you're dolo? Well, I think he can be. I think it's just like, let me find the first.
Starting point is 00:23:09 You got to say, you got to say his name five times. I can't even. Yeah. Beetlejuice. Then he appears. So the Lord's only with you when you're with somebody else that believes. Matthew 1820 for where two or three are gathered together in my name there, I am in the midst of them.
Starting point is 00:23:23 So only, so God isn't with you when you by yourself. the message is that's what you just said okay no man it's pretty cut and dry when you out here dolo you are not being represented that's not true
Starting point is 00:23:37 by Jesus can be with you any time two or three or more oh my goodness there's a lot of silly would you admit this big there's a lot of silly shit written in the Bible
Starting point is 00:23:48 like this is silly as shit in it like um I don't know that silly is the word I'd use it's a fascinating book even if you're not if you're only there's a lot of murder in the Bible
Starting point is 00:23:59 there's a lot of sex in the Bible it's a that's not silly it's a fascinating read even if you're not interested in the the religious aspects of it no I agree I agree so I'm not I'm not I'm not in the camp of like
Starting point is 00:24:13 the Bible is horseshit nothing in it is good there's some good things in there but there's some silly shit in there as well like what would you categorize as silly if it's in the in the old Testament says if your daughter is not a virgin on her wedding day, you stone her at her father's door. We're under New Testament law. But, okay, I hate that argument from Christians.
Starting point is 00:24:36 The world. No, what is what about his friend is Yom Kippur tomorrow? Happy Yom Kippur. But this is why I hate that argument. Big T, this is why I hate that argument for Christians because the Lord also says that my, my word is forever, right? So shit that he used to say should go in the new, in the new after the after the after the after the after the after the after the old testament as well. There's a lot of conflicting ideologies in in the Bible. One of them is that is if I say something as a Lord and I'm perfect that I'm I'm I'm omnipotent and omniscient, right?
Starting point is 00:25:12 The shit that I say in the first half a half time it should it should apply after half time. Well, there were a lot of things in the old testament where God punished people for their sins and then Jesus came. to absolve the world of its sins. I made all the planets and the stars and the universe and laws of physics. Correct. And I'm petty and I'm petty and I try, I try to get revenge on, I guess. I love thinking of the new, that's silly. I feel, I love thinking of the new testament is like a halftime adjustment.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Yeah. Just like, go to go and going. It was. All right, we got, all right, we did lock and scheme isn't worked. No, we did a lot of good things in the first half out there. We drew, we drowned a lot of. babies in with the flood that was good good call on your we got it we just got we got we got tighten up a few things around the edges more out there and execute in the second
Starting point is 00:26:01 half uh you remember that that old twitter account shit my dad says that's what jesus should have called the old testament you should have rebranded it because they did rewrite a lot of stuff and and they they changed a lot of the rules halfway through i don't know why did did god get too politically correct in the new testament no i'm actually kind of lost is fastball. They tried to cancel them. I'm not cancel them. No, I'm a proponent of religion in that as long as there's always stuff we cannot explain about existence, our world, and everything, there is always room for belief in
Starting point is 00:26:39 a higher power and any teachings that you deem are moral and good. I'm of the belief that if something that you find comfort in, that gives you faith, that makes you lead a more productive life, that makes you feel. feel better that helps you out and makes you help your community, that's a good thing overall. So I got no qualms whatsoever of Christianity. I think that there's a lot of good stuff that's been brought to the world out of Christian, but there's also been a lot of evil that's been done in the name of Christianity. I'm in a hundred percent agreement.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I used to be in the all religion is toxic, but I don't think that. And the reason why I don't think that if people actually like studied their religion and lived by it, I would say that it would be toxic. But that's not how we interpret religion nowadays. I mean, I want to say nowadays, I was in live back there. But for the most part, the way people exercise their religion, it's a communal aspect. It's a place of gathering. People worship.
Starting point is 00:27:36 You know, they pray. And there's a lot of good that comes, you know, philanthropy. And for the most part, people don't read the shit. And it's just they follow. It gives you like a baseline idea of morality. And as long as y'all keep it, that's, I don't even, none of that shit bothers me. It's when people justify legislatively their moralities through a book that is demonstrably unprovable. And so when that starts to happen, then I, so that's what I say, okay, we have to step in.
Starting point is 00:28:05 In order to have a cohesive society, it has to be secular. Because if it's not, then you're going to have wars about who's right about a book 2,000 years ago. And that's a recipe for war. You could have somebody step up and be like, hey, I'm going to write these laws based on the Koran. and then people are going to be like, wait, no, that's not the book that you should be basing on. You should be basing on my book. So it's either all in or all out, I think, when it comes to legislate. Yeah, Billy?
Starting point is 00:28:29 What happens if, like, in 2000 years that they're looking back at the text and it's like the Facebook user agreement document, like to how they behave in like all those legislations? Like, what if that is the text? Wait, so are you saying, like, religion, like the Bible? People, or like the Constitution? I think Billy's kind of right. people do look at the Bible as the Facebook user agreement where they like kind of scroll through it and then they kind of retain what they want from it and then they click the box at the end that's like I'm going to heaven whatever yeah I accept all the stuff that's in here I'm not
Starting point is 00:29:06 actually going to read the part about drowning babies but I'm going to check that box at the end because I'm a good person the terms yeah the terms and conditions that's what I was thinking the yeah that's not funny to you but you know it's true man no i think that's accurate for like a lot of people like in the future the majority section three i think that's a very blanket statement to make but i would go on i will go on record and i would put my last dollar on the line that said i would say over 90 percent 90 percent 90 percent of practicing christians have never read the bible front to back i will i will guarantee it that should i have i have So that's actually, that's actually an interesting, like literally read every word of.
Starting point is 00:29:51 I haven't. 90s a lot. To my point. Because if you do and once you do, right, you realize that it was made in a way that was very, it's a mosaic of writings. It's put together very haphazardly. And it was just, it's misogynistic. It's written through the lens of men that want to conquer land. If you look at it from like an unbiased point of view and like just like study it, it's it's not like this holy like grail of morality because it's just not you can justify shit all day long with it for sure.
Starting point is 00:30:29 But it's just it's just it's just a really weird book, a collection of a lot of different writings. But you but you know like back then there was the concept of rules or any sort of, you know, being held responsible was so different to now. we've been two thousand years of like religion and some sort of idea of a moral or social construct that limits us back when they were just you know back then they had none of that well and for a long time too it was you had to go to the leaders of the church who were in charge of interpreting the bible and telling you what it meant and what it said and it was just okay i trust blindly what this guy's telling me because i did not learn how to read growing up but literally you know when you play gta you just run around get five
Starting point is 00:31:16 stars like don't do it like you know like steal shit like do crazy stuff in the game like because you think you're on god mode and there's nothing that really bad can happen people were just straight up living their lives like that like 3,000 years ago like just fuck it mode full time yeah they're on fucking all the time like think about like cane and able like cane was I was actually looking at this um there is this story that they recently discovered chimpanzees going to war with gorillas in a part of the Congo and there was 27 chimpanzees and they were living like totally
Starting point is 00:31:50 symbiotically with the guerrillas because there wasn't that much there was enough resources No food scarcity or anything like that Then as soon as shit hit the fan The chimps went nuts and like Attacked the gorillas I don't know what this has to do anything
Starting point is 00:32:06 Like GTA mode I'm glad we got there I was thinking that This like happened super recently This was like July 22nd 2021 there was like chimpanzee war versus gorillas this is way more interesting in the bible talk yeah right but like you know they did they kill the guerrillas or what there's no way they did no they did the chimps the chimps are guerrillas are gentle giants chimps are absolute
Starting point is 00:32:33 psychopaths sure but on a in a one-off there's no way one off i silverback of course beats a chimp no matter how big but the chimps like were much more like gang fighting with they using weapons and ship? Did they did they have hyanism versus lion type shit? Yeah, yeah. Did they break out like swords or spears or bows and arrows? The only gorillas that actually died were like young baby gorillas. Oh, chimps have no morals.
Starting point is 00:33:02 They went after women and children. That's probably what I was thinking of like, yeah, like GTA mode. So the chimps were like kind of insurgents. The guerrillas are the superior fighting unit, but the chimps just have to convince the and the guerrillas that they're crazy enough to do all the most fucked up shit and make them scared. Like there's no children in GTA. That's a good point. Never thought about that.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Yeah. There's no children in GTA. Yeah. All right. Well, Billy, please give us an update on the Chimp versus Gorilla War taking place in the Congo. I will. That's some heavy shit. Let's move.
Starting point is 00:33:35 I mean, I really think, I mean, that's a really good journalism. And Barshals had totally fun Billy and his front line journalism in the Chimp versus Gorilla thing. uh war in the congo i think that's good i would 100% be a war like a war journalist in the chipper's guerrilla war best this is press and everything bulletproof best get invited into like the chimpanzee's lair to do an interview with their leader they blindfold it's it's ceza is home it's me and jane goodall yeah all right all right let's let's keep moving because we've talked a lot about religion we've got some things that we need to get to before we jump into Titanic stuff. I want to make sure that we
Starting point is 00:34:16 get to these places. Yeah, do you want to say that we're doing the Titanic for this episode? Yeah, so this is the Titanic episode. We talked about it a little bit at the top. I don't think there was actually a formal intro. Yeah, there wasn't a formal intro. All right, I'll redo an intro. So when you hear me do the intro later, that's, that was recorded after the fact, but we are going to do the Titanic. Double back. I think it was a nice way to open up, but go ahead. It was a good, it was a good intro, got the discussion going, got the blood flow in a little bit, but we're going to get into the Titanic. And before we do, one thing came up this weekend in the group chat, and that is the fact that Big Tee did not know, despite
Starting point is 00:34:50 being a giant university Tennessee volunteers fan, that Arian Foster was in the movie Draft Day. It's not that I didn't know. It's that I never thought about it, I guess. And I love that movie. I've written, I think two blogs defending it separately. I just never thought about it. Like, And then I forget what I was looking at. I honestly think the movie, yeah, I loved it. But if it didn't have the NFL licensing, if it was like made up teams, if it was the Cleveland Sharks and the San Antonio Snakes, it would be the worst movie ever made. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Like the worst movie ever made. I might agree to that. But the fact that it had like the official licensing and had the team names and logos and colors and everything like that, I loved it. That was a big movie. Like, that was a good time to be in Cleveland. The draft day was getting made about Cleveland Browns, even though it was about how bad we were. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:45 It was a good time to be in Cleveland. So, Aaron, how did you get that gig? I had been acting a little bit. I was on a couple of TV shows. And it was something I wanted to pursue at one point in time. And maybe I'll double back on it if I get bored enough. But I enjoyed the theater. Like, I was in theater school and high school, stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:36:04 So I enjoyed the art of it. And so my manager was like, yo, I can get you some auditions. So we did a couple of editions, like in the off seasons before. And I landed a couple of roles. And this opportunity came up because I think somebody from the movie hit the NFL offices and said, is there anybody that can act, but like for real in the NFL? And they reached out to my people and they were like, we saw you and that you might be interested in this because they had a hard time finding actors that looked like football players but can act.
Starting point is 00:36:36 And everybody that looked like a football player couldn't act. And so they reached out to me and they had me audition. And actually, this is my claim to fame. I'm going to tell my children this. Ivan Rehman was the director. And he directed Animal House. That's probably big with y'all and y'all fan base. That's another truth, though.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So he, after I sent my audition tape in, part of their team wanted me to play Chadwick Bowman's role and part of the team wanted me to play the role. that I had. And so they were like on the fence. The room was kind of split on who they wanted me to read for. So I had auditioned for that role as well. So I was like at least for one moment of time, like Chad with Bozeman and me were going
Starting point is 00:37:21 head to head for a row. That's cool. Also, I think this is the most important part though. This was like a monumental moment for me in my career because I had like this big chip on my shoulder because I was undrafted. And during that time I was, I think I was like a two time or, yeah, two-time pro bowler and led the thing in Russia and I was at the height of my success
Starting point is 00:37:42 and the thorn in my side was I wasn't drafted. And so I actually did get drafted number seven overall to the Cleveland Brown. So it was like I did it all. I lived my NFL career. I love it. That is really nice. Is there any part of you that is a little bit upset that you weren't
Starting point is 00:37:59 the number one over pick in that movie? No, man. I came from nothing, man. So as long as we got picked, we got picked, you know. Yeah. I was looking at your IMDB. That That is very impressive. You played Ray Jennings in Draft Day. Maybe more impressive.
Starting point is 00:38:13 You were also in Baywatch. I was a little cameo in Baywatch. As yourself, what was that like? That was cool. It was cool. I think the most part of that was like, my mom is like obsessed with the rock, bro. Like, obsessed. Like, when I say obsessed, it's like she swoons.
Starting point is 00:38:31 I've never seen my mother swooned. She like melts. And so during one in the middle of the set, I called him over, and I was like, oh, my mom's like, in love with you, bro. Can you just send her a little video? So he shouted her out and said, hey, Bernardette, and she fucking melted, bro. It was dope. That's real.
Starting point is 00:38:48 Billy, did you like, you like draft day, right? No. I have a confession, mate. You've never seen draft day. You fucking hate it. You fraud. No, I just. No, Billy's a fraud.
Starting point is 00:39:00 He's never seen draft day. Your name is Billy football. Yeah, can you change that? No, no. No, absolutely not, Billy. I tried, I tried to do it, Billy Ocean, but you wasn't rocking with it. I love Billy Ocean's fine. Someone already asked.
Starting point is 00:39:14 You're in my phone as Billy Ocean. That's dope. Yeah, I've yet to see. I will watch it. We got to get you to watch Draft Day for sure. Yeah, no, I, it's one of those things I got to get to. You're going to be surprised. I can imagine you're amazing actor.
Starting point is 00:39:29 No, no, I don't know what that. It's actually a good movie. Yeah. It's like a good movie. And was Terry Cruz your dad? in that movie he was yeah what's he like uh really cool dude uh very energetic very positive uh it was my first acting in a movie and we're on a busy new york street in a new york they can't get zoning licenses to like block off sections so it's not a set every if you
Starting point is 00:39:59 ever see a movie in new york all the people in the background are real people like they just hold up signs they say we're filming the movie and if you walk on here you're giving your rights away to be in a And so anyway, we film a live action and they're screaming, Terry Cruz. Oh my God, Terry Cruz. And it's like, oh, shit, that's Harry Falls. Oh, it's just, yeah, and like, and he's like, I'm like nervous.
Starting point is 00:40:17 I'm nervous to shit. And like, so I like went over my lines religiously because I just didn't want to be a dude to fuck up anybody's lines and waste anybody time. And he was like, hey, fuck up. Fuck up your lines. Who cares? He's like, just get it out.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Just get it out. Who cares? Fuck it up. Because I fuck up my lines all the time on purpose. Just to get it out. And I'm like, that's dope of advice. I appreciate it. I like that.
Starting point is 00:40:35 make you get out of your head a little bit. I got a question, Aaron, and you may have better insight than, of course, I do. So when you're at, I don't know if, so like the VMAs were last night, right? Have you ever been to like those types of events? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:40:54 So you got a guy like Karne McGregor throwing a punch at MGK. What, do people take themselves like that seriously at those types of events I don't know how to describe what I'm saying but like do they know
Starting point is 00:41:09 that a lot of it's a spectacle or are they going in there like yeah I'm going to the party like So when I when I had my small brush with fame I was very over it very fast
Starting point is 00:41:23 because what I realized is the majority of like famous people this is why I don't really like famous people because the majority of famous people read their own press and they start to fall for that shit and I was saying the majority the shit, the people that I met anyway.
Starting point is 00:41:37 It's like they're just like in love with the shit. And so it's like you'll have people call papyrazzi on themselves, like just to stay in the news and shit like that. And it's just very, it's a facade driven entertainment business where people do things to stay in the headlines because like, yo, like one of the biggest like punch lines for people to get out like a celebrate on it's like you're not relevant anymore. Like that hurts their career. right and like and like for me I couldn't care less about being relevant that has nothing to do I have to move any in any way that doesn't affect me at all like and people people care about that shit because your relevancy is directly correlated with how much value you bring to like a project or whatever case may be and so so it's it's a lot of hype it's a lot hoopla um you know some good people
Starting point is 00:42:24 for sure uh but I just I just stayed away from the Hollywood scene I stayed away from like the big parties and stuff like that like I would go like if I had like an appearance or something and I'll get hella faded and then I can go back to my room like I wasn't I'm not really into like like red carpets like like red carpets I walk one one or two red carpets I'm like this is the dumbest shit I've ever been a part of so every time afterwards if there's like an NFL event or something like there's a red carpet I would go behind and they're like no you got to walk around carpet I was like no I don't that shit is stupid it's like dumb you have to sit there and pose for the cameras this is the stupid I've always wondered if people get drunk before
Starting point is 00:42:56 they go on the red carpet I think there's two types of like I had no idea but I imagine that some people think it's hilarious and like pregame for it and are just like messing around but then there's people who take it really seriously but I have no idea. What's part of their brand? Like so
Starting point is 00:43:11 so we used to just dress up for games and I wanted to look fly but if you look at like NBA and NFL now it's an entire spectacle because it's a part of their branding. It's what it's how they want to be perceived. It's what they want to be viewed as and so they take it very seriously
Starting point is 00:43:29 or else you'd be walking to the game. games and flip flops and shit like nobody would care but it's though those red carpets are literally a part of i mean shit to this day like we still talk about like jalo's green dress jalo and a green jess it was it was a great dress it was a great dress i'm okay with still talking about that dress that dress no turn me into a man oh i'm not against it i mean i brought it up it's still very vivid mama what i'm saying is people can use that to bolster their relevancy and bolster their careers in a way that I was uninterested in. Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Yeah, so the rumor is that Carmen Greger went up to MGK asking for a picture of him and Megan Fox, who was also in a stunning, put the other. I was just like wondering, like, it's like a chimp versus guerrilla situation right there. Yeah. Like, Connor, like Connor, Connor would beat the shit out of the larger MGK. He's like, six four. Connor's the gorilla then.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I don't know. You're the most famous person I could like ask about this. So thank you for giving your impact. put no i won't call me famous i'm just i'm i was i was moderately recognizable people leave me alone for all right you're still the houston texans all-time leading rusher and touchdown score right also other questions it is the texans so i mean that's not really saying that much exactly furthest we made it was what second round so yeah well also like any time they get somebody that's halfway decent they'll just trade them away it's kind of what they do it's their go-to move your record
Starting point is 00:44:57 will never be broken because they'll just have a good wide receipt you for three years. You'd be like, congratulations. You're Seattle Seahawk now. Also, quick questions. Do you think Chandler Jones was really going off over the weekend? Or was it more of a product of JJ Watt getting double teams and him just being one-on-one with the tackle every time? Yeah, I like that you're asking Aaron this question.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Like, Ariens been grinding the film. Like, he logged on to NFL.com and pulled up game pass this morning. and he's just been breaking down all the time. Did you watch, how much football did you watch yesterday? I didn't watch any football, but I caught, you know, the highlights because what happened was I was driving back from, I went to go visit my mom in San Antonio and I was driving back for San Antonio, Houston. So I caught some highlights. I did see the five-sac performance. Well, I saw the highlights of it.
Starting point is 00:45:48 And I'll just tell you this. Once you get your third sack or your second sack in the first quarter, they're keen on you. It's not about, like, and a lot of times people like with the double teams and shit, like, there's rare human beings that you have to do that to the entire game. I think J.J. Y's an amazing athlete, but I don't think he's at the place now where you have to double team like that anymore. Aaron Donald, like, is a person, like, where you, like, if you don't double team him, like, he's going to cause that havoc. But, like, that, that, that challenge Jones performance is like, that, that's just, like, that tackle is a, that, I, if he has a job next year, that's going to be. Interesting. Well, yeah, he was a podcaster.
Starting point is 00:46:31 So he'll have a job. He's also the highest paid offensive linemen in the league, right? Is he really? I think so, yeah. At least he was when he signed his contract. He was coming off of ACL surgery. So I saw the cornish in the world, though. So he goes and he tweets.
Starting point is 00:46:48 And I don't know because my man's is talking about it. Charles Jays, look hilarious. He tweets, thank you Chandler Jones for exposing me. It's only going to make me better. yeah like boy you guys got to take that hell and tuck it like tuck in the deep away like fuck out of here with that bullshit uh hey Mikey so Mikey podcast is is guest producing the podcast today I think you're logged on to Slack Mikey are you I'm hearing a lot of bubbles pop up Matt Mad Dog just let me know and I know that that's not Avery I don't think has a Slack account does he I also just don't know in like who out of you guys would have Slack yeah no I That's one thing. I've thankfully never started a Slack account and everybody always talks about Slack, Slack, this, Slack that. People, the worst Twitter content that there is is people posting a screenshot of an inside joke on their Slack.
Starting point is 00:47:41 On their Slack channel. Yeah, they're like, look at this. Where it's slack's going off again. It's like, this is worse than talking about your fantasy team to me. But it's the most recognizable tone. Yeah. Like you don't even have to, like you've never had to have a Slack before to know exactly what that. but do you someone's on it you know who was also an atheist who the Titanic that's a good point
Starting point is 00:48:03 the Titanic was never christened that's a good good point Billy so and it also we can maybe get into this in a little bit fun fact about the Titanic I don't know if you call it the serial number or the production number of the Titanic on the side of the ship it was 3909 space 04 big deal you might say when you hold it up to a mirror that reads no pope on the side of it and there's some speculation that it was done to piss off some of the catholic workers that were working on the ship who may or may not have then gone ahead and sabotage the ship yeah no the titanic was built in a part of belfast which was strictly protestant and if you know the history of northern Ireland, there is a ton
Starting point is 00:48:53 of sectarian strife when it comes to the Protestants and the Catholics. The troubles. Yeah. Yeah. Smart Billy. Absolutely right, Philly. A lot of Jesus causing problems most people are exactly the same. So let's get in Titanic real quick.
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Starting point is 00:49:34 the titanic maybe discuss the titanic in the first hour okay all right exactly good i like it don't come for the facts you know no they come for billy's facts for sure and we'll also have to get into the tennessee minute in a little bit um but firstly let's get into Titanic. Let's get into the meat of the show today. And the meet of the show today is brought to you by our great friends at BetterHelp. BetterHelp is actually a great product that we advertise. So we joke around loud.
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Starting point is 00:51:46 All right, Titanic. We've all seen the movie. We've all heard about the ship. It's one of the most famous maritime disasters of all time. And there's a lot of conspiracies out there about it. Is everything as it seems with the Titanic, or was there something else at play when that ship set sail? So let's do a quick setup here. What did you guys know about the Titanic going into this episode?
Starting point is 00:52:12 Big T. I mean, all the basic shit, I guess. You saw the movie? I've not seen the movie. Whoa. That's more surprising than Billy Football not watching It's just it's one of those I've never gotten around to There's boobs
Starting point is 00:52:25 Were you not allowed to see? Those were my first boobs Those were the first boobs I've ever seen Now they remember it I'll check it out later But yeah I've never I've never gotten around to see the movie I mean you know all the basic stuff Iceberg April 1912
Starting point is 00:52:38 Yep Same week Fenway Park open people forget that People do What about you Billy I like remember I watched it When did it come out? 1999? 98, 99, something like that?
Starting point is 00:52:51 Yeah, so I remember it came out of the year I was born. And then one, like, night my family started watching it on TV. And my parents had seen it in theaters, but they forgot about the boobs. And then we were watching it. I think it was on HBO. And that scene came up. And then my mom, dad freaked out and covered my eyes. It's tasteful nudity, though, because it's under the context of art.
Starting point is 00:53:16 Yeah. great nipples on kway artistically great nipples like her she has a beautiful figure a beautiful form and non-horny way can we all agree on that i feel like in that scene it's very it's it's like she's a a painting from the renaissance era her nipples especially again not in a horny way uh what about you aaron you've seen the movie did they teach you about the titanic in school because i distinctly remember spending like a week learning about that titanic If they did, I didn't pay attention. That was one of the things I copied if they did.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I have no recollection of learning about the Titanic. I don't know anything about the Titanic, but I did watch the movie. And I remember thinking that, dude, what is his name? He played the butler on Richie Rich, and he's in the movie. What is that guy's name? Billy Zane. No, no It was a
Starting point is 00:54:17 I could be I don't know He played the brother But he was the one That made Them speed it up He was like speed it up Because we want to
Starting point is 00:54:23 Have a grand entrance in New York Gotcha I remember thinking That dude was a coward I remember thinking that Rose was a dick I remember thinking Rose was Jonathan Hyde
Starting point is 00:54:33 He played the Butler And she rich Jonathan Hyde I agree with you Rose was not a good person Rose killed Jack Hashtag Rose killed Jack Rose killed Jack
Starting point is 00:54:43 Rose also she she lived her entire life like a piece of shit she met jack she went slumming with jack for like a day and a half on the titanic and she was like oh look at me i'm hanging out with the unwashed masses aren't i elegant aren't i oh i'm being a bad girl because i'm lashing out against billy zane who's a fucking prick and then all of a sudden we're supposed to be like oh rose was a good person no rose lived her entire life as an entitled bitch and she just so happened to want to get some dick from a little urchin that lived down on the fourth floor and steerage one week end and then so she got piped up and then all of a sudden we're like oh great yeah rose you're the
Starting point is 00:55:19 hero uh you you you just you you got a diamond didn't give it back by the way held onto the diamond and then just kind of you held on to it for the rest of your life and uh you know i don't think that there's that many redeeming qualities behind rose i agree also a few fun facts i do believe that there was broom on the door for jack i do think that but how are you on the door for jack i do think that but how are you the door with the life vest on and your man's just sitting here struggling to fucking tread water. Give him the life jacket at least
Starting point is 00:55:52 my jeep. Yeah. But no, she kept the life jacket on and she was on the door and, you know, domestic violence aside, her fiance had a point. Here I am taking my fiance on a boat, right? He was probably a dick before. But still at least have the decency to break up with me.
Starting point is 00:56:09 We are on a boat together. All of a sudden, you are fucking some dude you just met. raw were there condoms in 1920 i don't know in 1900 i don't know you were definitely fucking raw there was no way so you out here risking my health risking your health for a cheap thrill it's it's just rose rose was a dick and she killed jack yeah i think billy zane obviously his character was an asshole in this movie too but i mean they were engaged they had a commitment to each other rose could have broken up with him she didn't have to go to america right unless i'm
Starting point is 00:56:44 incorrectly. I think that Rose could have very easily just like broken up with him. She did break up with him. But she, the reason why she didn't want to break up with him was because her mom was pressured to stay with him because dude had money and they, and they were all out of money because their dad left him with debt. So she was
Starting point is 00:57:02 basically, that was a goat, she was a gold digger. She was marrying him for the bread. Okay. And specifically to make her mother happy. And so when she didn't want to be with the domestically violent man at the end, She decided to change the name. Then take the name of the dude that you killed.
Starting point is 00:57:18 Just a bad person. Yeah. Okay. I forgot about the whole debt thing. So she was pressured into it by her mom. So not like a completely evil situation for her to be trying to get the money. But that is what that's, you know, through a series of choices. That's where her life went.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And but she really showed absolutely no redeeming qualities with with Jack. I thought she just wanted to get some dick. She wanted to, she, this was her doing like a. a girl's trip, which is like, I'm going to be bad this weekend. I'm going to, like, live out my fantasy of sleeping with an artist that it was down in the stage of class. And then guess what? I'm going to kill him at the end of it.
Starting point is 00:57:56 They never tells anyone. So my real. Real quick, last thing. I remember the drawings being fucking exquisite, like, when I was younger watching that shit. And Instagram has definitely diluted that for me, like, because, like, there's amazing artists. And so, like, when I watched it, I watched it last night in preparation. for this. I watched it last night and it's a good job. I couldn't I could not draw like that. Right. So whoever drew it, no kudosy, but like it's a very, uh, uh, not underwhelming
Starting point is 00:58:27 artist like Jack was. They've, they actually did a pretty good job in the movie Titanic about keeping true to the story. And there are a lot of details that they put in that were very accurate about like the building of the ship, the different things that happened once the iceberg hit and like some of the the socioeconomic divisions on the ship and how those played out in the evacuation. So the movie is not, it's not just Hollywood. I think that they did a pretty good job staying true to form of some of the important details.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Yeah, Billy? There was so the beginning scene where Jack wins the ticket to the game, to the ship in a poker game, there was an example of a couple of dockhand workers who did lose their tickets in a game. And basically there was a rumor that has been substantiated that because they lost their tickets and they were the ones who were supposed to do a lot of the stuff in the engine room. And they basically had untrained workers in very important spots not being able to do their job correctly and causing it to, you know, all happen. Which also has been.
Starting point is 00:59:34 Oh, that's all right. Go ahead. Go ahead. No, it's just a room. Like there's a ton of rumors that come with the Titanic. It's actually kind of insane how much disputed facts there are when it comes to it. Yeah. And so to y'all's point, though, James Cameron, who is also the director of Avatar, I might add.
Starting point is 00:59:57 James Cameron did a wonderful job. I don't know if y'all saw that, but they have like the release dates of like eight or five maybe, Avatar Five, like, 2012. Avatar 5 is set to release on December 22nd, 2008. I will bet you a million dollars that will not be the release date. A million. Let's right now. See, and that's what I don't understand is why we got to be so negative. Why?
Starting point is 01:00:19 What's the point? You know what I mean? Avatar fan here, I mean, as soon as they release two, I'm going to be so happy. But like, they keep releasing, like, release dates for four or five. You can't plan anything out that far in the future besides college football, like, inter-conference games. It was like 2028. No, you can't put a week. You can't put a day on when that movie is coming out.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Million dollars on the table right now. But sorry, go ahead, James Cameron. You're probably right. So he did a great job at, like you guys were saying, like getting some of the historicity correctly. As far as, like, they were going faster than they should have been and they couldn't turn. And they were also given warnings of icebergs in their path and they ignored them. Also, in the opening scene where the dude is like rummaging for the bottom. Not all of that as real footage, but they did use some, some of that as real footage.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Like, I think when they, when they filmed the fireplace, the fireplace is actually the real footage. And I think that shit is really dope. Just for the simple fact, it's like, it's eerie. Like, it's eerie to think that that's been in the bottom of love for 100 years. And just like the, I don't know, just the depiction of that was really, it was a powerful moment for me, rewatching it last night. Thinking, thinking that that's a real thing. that they used and they used it in the movie. I thought it was dope.
Starting point is 01:01:38 So let's get into some of the construction, not the theories, but these are the facts behind the construction of the Titanic. It was built by White Star Cruise Lines. And the owner of White Star Cruise Lines, a name you might be familiar with, J.P. Morgan owned it. He wanted to get into the travel business. He wanted to get into the shipbuilding business. Yeah, Billy? He actually wanted to monopolize the whole shipping industry. Yep. The Atlantic shipping industry was most of the commerce going on, and he wanted to be the owner of every ship that transported people, goods, and services across the ocean. And that company was owned by a larger company called the International Mercantile Marine Company that was supposed to
Starting point is 01:02:25 basically be the Amazon of shipping. Yeah, he wanted to take over the world. And JP Morgan, everything that he wanted to get involved in, he wanted to run a monopoly on. He wanted to be the best at it, the richest person, and the most successful. So he tried to get into the shipping industry, tried to monopolize that. He was not able to buy out his competitors. He made them obscene offers to the biggest competitors to try to acquire them. They wouldn't sell. I read that he offered 10 times the annual revenue on one of his competitors to purchase them. They said, no. They said, kindly go fuck yourself. And so a guy like J.P. Morgan, who is one of the most rich, wealthy, powerful people in the world, didn't take too kindly to that.
Starting point is 01:03:05 that. So what did J.P. Morgan do? Well, he decided to build more ships and sell tickets on them for next to nothing at the time. So he wanted to make, uh, what would the word be like sea travel intercontinental sea travel? Uh, he wanted to undercut the prices for all the other competitors out there so that he would wipe them out because he's a wealthy dude. He's got almost unlimited funds. He also did like a stock sell program that covered some of the, the expenses right up front but he was trying to undercut at least when it came to you know the stearge class the fourth class the third class passengers so like spirit air he was trying to have he was trying to combine it all onto one boat where you'd have at the top you've got what virgin atlantic that's a really
Starting point is 01:03:49 nice airline then at the bottom you've got spirit air and uh they also had i thought this was kind of interesting because when you used to travel across the atlantic ocean if you were paying for the coach tickets or the worst class tickets, a lot of times there was no place for you to lay down. It was just basically you have to stand up for a week until you get to another continent. Like, how fucked up is that? That's the worst way to travel ever. Maybe if you get a good spot on the floor, you can sit or lay down. Probably a lot of people were playing cards to pass the time.
Starting point is 01:04:24 But they didn't have seats. They didn't have beds. They didn't have anything. It was just kind of like, we're going to stick you in this room that you paid money for. and then we'll wake you up when you get to London or when you get to New York City. Yeah, that's another part that was like, I missed when I was younger
Starting point is 01:04:44 was the division of classes amongst the, I mean, you see it, but you don't really understand that, like what that actually means. And it's just wild to me that we just, like there has to be class in a traveling. Like, I think it was weird, like, you like there's first like on planes even like there's like there's a cabin where like your chair's a little more comfortable and you'll get you free alcohol it's just like yeah it's just a weird
Starting point is 01:05:10 concept to me just like make all the chairs comfortable dog like it's just avoid that i don't know man it's just the wildest shit at the end you're going to the same place anyways same fucking place right so uh so jp morgan built the titanic you had a sister ship it had uh i don't know if it was an exact one but it's pretty close to it it was that ship was called the The Olympic. The Olympic was built before the Titanic and plays a cup a big role in a lot of these conspiracy theories. The Olympic was a little bit smaller, I want to say, but basically the same as the Titanic. Just the Titanic was like a newly renovated version. I think they were basically the same. But the Olympic was gotten to a little bit of a boating accident right before the Titanic went to. set sail in its maiden voyage it hit an iceberg right it hit a you a royal uh british navy boat that's right my mistake yeah which had a ram the all the naval boats had rams in them because this was back when like when you know countries went to war and their navies met up
Starting point is 01:06:21 they were literally ramming ships against each other and trying to like pirate style fight each other So because they ran into a Royal Navy and naval ships, according to some laws of the sea, are supposed to have precedent and movement. And basically, they could the, the, the, um, J.P. Morgan's company couldn't get an insurance claim on the Olympic because a judge had ruled that it was the Olympics fault in the crash. Yeah. And so what happens right after that crash is it was, it was brought to port in Belfast. Northern Ireland. And they started allegedly repairing it. And a lot of people think that the Titanic was actually the Olympic, right? And that they put it out to sea because they had another new ship and the only way for them to recuperate the money that they lost on the Olympic because it was so heavily damaged would be if it were to sink in an unrelated accident, if it was labeled as being a
Starting point is 01:07:24 completely new, totally safe ship to be on board. So a lot of people think that the Titanic was replaced with the Olympic at the last minute, and then people got on board of the ship that had been hastily repaired, knowing that it probably wouldn't last that. The people that made the ships knew that it probably wouldn't last that long and that it wasn't necessarily safe, but the only way they could get their money back and the insurance money to come through is if it eventually sank or eventually got, you know, so much, so much damage to it, that way it would be rendered inoperable. And they could be like, hey, this new ship, the Titanic, this one has an independent issue
Starting point is 01:08:03 that's totally different from what happened to the other ship. Can we get our money back from this one? And there is also rumors. And this also implies one thing that is refuted that the whole unsinkable angle that they promoted in regards to Titanic was to get a higher insurance premium so that if and when it went down they could collect a higher rate but this this has a bunch of different points that kind of caused this theory to get unraveled one they wouldn't need to fill the ship up with passengers and people and you know sailed it as far out as they did to commit insurance fraud
Starting point is 01:08:44 um so there is this idea they could have staged various different events that would have caused it. But there's also a theory that there wasn't an iceberg that hit the ship, but another international mercantile marine ship that they sent to sort of, you know, teabone it to cause it to sink. But the reasons why they'd want to sink the Titanic besides insurance fraud, assuming that, you know, if there was really the Olympic and not the Titanic, they said they would, it is that J.P. Morgan also was at the time setting up an international monetary fund. Well, so the Fed, the Federal Reserve, J.P. Morgan was in favor of creating the Federal Reserve back in the early 20th century. And a lot of people did not like the idea of the Fed.
Starting point is 01:09:45 A lot of people still don't like the idea of the Fed. I don't really know what the Fed does. that's that's way above my mental grade i i can't really comprehend enough to have an opinion one way or another about it but a lot of people did not like the establishment of the federal reserve and j p morgan was a fan of it he had several rivals at the time uh there were a couple other billionaires millionaires jacob astor istrauss and benjamin guganheim they all got on board the Titanic and they were anti-federal reserve jp morgan was going to sail on the titanic he decided at the last minute that he wasn't going to didn't get on board the ship he said for health reasons but then he was spotted out and about in paris over the course of the next week just like having a good time acting normal
Starting point is 01:10:38 so the health the health issues are called into question jp morgan did not get on the ship but all of his principal business rivals and financial rivals were on the ship at the time and he knew that they were on board just something to think about you know who's been big on that conspiracy theory recently don't you who's that cue one on cute really yeah i might be q it's it's so this is actually where we go one where we go all yeah this is easily refuted because uh jacobastered isodore strouse and gouganheim all either had no mention or it was before and these discussions occurred. Fuck, I just got easily refuted.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Did you hear that? No, but this is, Billy just I want to refute it. Well, we have to refute it because it's actually deep into the Q and on sort of mythos. Oh, I didn't know. Okay. Yeah, so I think it was Guggenheim was actually pro the Fed.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Strauss. And Strauss was pro the Fed. Guggenheim and Astor were not, were just oblivious to the whole thing. And it was more that because of Titanic was a super hyped up luxury sort of, you know, palace on the sea.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Yeah. that basically because there was so limited, you know, cross-Atlantic traffic, yeah. Yeah, that they were all on the nicest one. So, you know, there wasn't a flight every day. They all just happened to be on the same one crossing the Atlantic at the same time. I mean, good refutation, Billy. Yeah, because then it goes on to say that J.P. Morgan wanted to dominate the seas and the commerce. And then once he did, he then wanted to cause a war.
Starting point is 01:12:13 in Europe so that he could take American goods to fund wars in Europe and that's the foundation of the deep state and all the wars that occur is because it's like these dudes who control arms movements and well the idea of like arms dealers and and people trying to profit off war encouraging conflict that's that's real that happens worldwide and it has happened for a while I'm not saying the Q&ON thing, though. I didn't know that was... Yeah, I didn't know that Q&A was into. I guess that was my question is, what is the angle?
Starting point is 01:12:50 And I think you just explained it. But if there's anything else, because I had never heard, I don't get kept abreast of the Q&on. The lore? I think the, I think the idea is that he had his financial rivals. And they were, regardless, of whether or not the Federal Reserve thing is even in question. These are some of the richest men in the world that were all rivals of J.P. Morgan.
Starting point is 01:13:15 And so the theory is maybe he was trying to kill these people by sending them out on a ship that he knew was not seaworthy yet. I don't know. It is definitely like it's out there. It's an out there theory. But I do love insurance fraud stories, which is why I like the idea of switching out to Titanic for the Olympic at the last second. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Did all of them die? Did all of them die? Did all of his rivals die? Yeah. Yeah. Boom. They all went down with the ship. But they say that they sent an international mercantile marine ship to sort of Kamikaze, the Titanic to take it down.
Starting point is 01:13:55 And it wasn't an iceberg. And the ice on the deck of the ship was really from the rigging on the basically planted international mercantile marine ship. I think once you see this like, because this was one of the biggest ships ever made. And you see this a lot with like, you know, for example, the World Trade Center when something is such a symbol of, you know, too big for anything bad to happen and too engineered that, you know, caused people to go pretty haywire with a lot of the theories of how it actually went down, what exactly happened. There's a bunch of theories on why it went down, how it did. So, for example, there was the coal theory. So on a lot of ships, their coal, because they were all coal burning, coal powered with the steam. They had these huge coal because that was with the fuel they used.
Starting point is 01:14:55 They had these stockpiles of coal. And coal catches fire. So sometimes their stockpiles would just start, would catch fire due to the nature of the furnaces and sparks flying everywhere. So they'd catch fire. And now we're not talking about an explosion, but just like a slow burn because it was that type of slow burning fuel. So this intense heat and it was raging for 10 days because we aren't really around coal in the United States that much. But when like a stack of coal, much like on a barbecue, when it burns, it sort of glows and then is extremely hot. So what they were doing is they would take the coals that caught fire, throw them into the fire.
Starting point is 01:15:36 furnace and this would take several days. So there was a coal fire that burned in the coal bunkers of the Titanic for about 10 days. So they think that this may have weakened the metal in the structural integrity of the whole boat because of the heat causing the metal to bend, the heat, the heating of the hull in regards to the cold water underneath causing the steel to weaken and may have played a role in why it snapped in half, how it did. Um, and, you know, there's a bunch of like hypothesis is how it happened, including the closed watertight doors theory that certain doors that were made for if flooding occurred weren't opened or closed in the expansion joint hypothesis, which I won't bore you with like, uh, you know, engineering stuff because I don't really understand it. But there's like a certain way that if they're doing stuff for the boat and they need to bend the hull that it would malfunction. and that's why it sort of cracked up how it did because people don't really know if when it went down if everyone sees the scene how it was depicted in James Cameron's movie but at one point it goes
Starting point is 01:16:49 completely vertical and then slides down because it snaps in half and then one goes down and then the other side sort of veers up and basically the angle of how it sort of broke into and went into the waters up for a lot of debate because eyewitnesses say one thing you know the record shows another so that's where a lot of this gray area comes in and no one's entirely sure how the structural integrity became so uh compromised so what i was also going to ask what are the eyewitnesses saying how did they how does how do they account for the uh what was their account and how did it differentiate from what they believe happened. Some people say that they saw ice on the deck.
Starting point is 01:17:37 No one really said that they saw an iceberg to begin with because it wasn't lit up. And there's even, you know, eyewitnesses account saying they were pretty very widespread and wide between because when they got these people onto the lifeboats and onto the different boats, because there was no consensus and they weren't all together. everyone was saying different things. Plus, everyone's panicking in a situation like that. A lot of times eyewitness testimony isn't super reliable. Probably terrible.
Starting point is 01:18:07 I always, I like to toss this to you out there. I think I'm a no iceberger. I think I, I think I might not believe that there was an iceberg. You a U-boat guy? I might be a U-boat guy. I didn't find that to be incredulous. I might be a U-boat guy. I might be a death charge guy.
Starting point is 01:18:25 I might be a sea mine. Is that what they're called? bomb an ocean bomb am I just making up weapons no I didn't know about that I'm pretty sure that there's there are explosive charges that you can run into
Starting point is 01:18:37 sometimes people booby trap harbors and stuff with them but I might be a no iceberg guy because I feel like it's it's a harmless theory to believe in right now and I like the idea of being in on something
Starting point is 01:18:51 that all you sheep will don't even you haven't even considered it you just think you believe what the media has told you and you can't believe that there could be a U-boat that was set up there. Europe at the time was going through a lot of changes. That was the start of the powder keg. Only a couple years before the Lusitania.
Starting point is 01:19:08 It was a couple years before the Lusitania, and it was when all the alliances were being made, there were competing interest to shipping rights going across the North Atlantic. I think I'm a no iceberger. I think it got hit by something. I don't think those are mutually exclusive, though. There could have been a U-boat that caused it to hit the iceberg, and then the iceberg was a convenient.
Starting point is 01:19:27 Good point. Good point. Oh, it just hit the iceberg. Yeah, there also could have been, who knows what was on board that Titanic. I'm sure that it had some crazy, some, not just like the luggage and not just personal effects, but I'm sure it was also carrying some other goods across the Atlantic at the time. I'm going to be honest, I'm not too sure about that one. Are you going to easily refute me again? No, I'm not going to easily refute you.
Starting point is 01:19:51 The only reason I refute you used. No, easily. Now you didn't just refute me. Well, I didn't want to give Q and on. You easily refuted. I'm glad you did. I've just never been easily refuted before. No, because they, anyway.
Starting point is 01:20:04 But the boat was going from England to the U.S. So much of nothing, England was kind of not producing any goods that would be of danger to the Germans. What if there were people on board that were trying to escape to the United States out of Europe? needed to be put down. It's just, it's like the old thing like, they had information leading to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton on board the Titanic. You just put assassins on the boat. It would be so much easier just to push him off the side of the boat than take down the whole
Starting point is 01:20:39 boat. You don't know what was on, what sort of cargo was on board the Titanic. Right. But like, for example, Lucitania got taken down by a U-boat because there was arms coming for the United States. Yeah. And we were told that it was a U-boat that took it out so that we could use it as a pretext to go into war.
Starting point is 01:20:56 because Europe was like begging us, the UK was begging us, hey, here's this telegram that got sent over to Mexico. Doesn't this look legit? Oh, yeah, this boat got saying, now are you going to buck with us? Are you going to come ride on these fools? And so we were just being begged to go into war at that time. Going the other way, I could see something happening and not being told the full story about that.
Starting point is 01:21:19 That's all I'm going to say. I might be a no iceberg. But then what? There's a ton of gold on the boat. Could be? is being exchanged for a lot of rich people on that show could be it could be a lot of yeah a lot of gold on there you never know billy huh i i don't think i was as easily refuted that time i think this is starting to turn into like the season two plot of outer banks yeah yeah it is
Starting point is 01:21:43 by the way that show kicks ass don't tell me what happens i'm only two episodes on how have you not finished yet i i got i'm watching tidal town high right now i've got other shows it's it's geographically inconsistent. I'll put it that way. I don't think that anybody on that show has ever looked at a map. I'm a big manifest guy right now. If I see manifest? Yes. Yes. I've been
Starting point is 01:22:05 watching that show. Calm down, my nigga. Calm down. Is that the plane? Yeah. I'm going to watch that. It's really funny. I'm on season 1. No, season 2 episode 4, 4, 3 or 4. You're actually ahead of me.
Starting point is 01:22:22 it's really fire so people haven't watched it it's a show i like the premise right it's getting real um i just hope at the end it doesn't get like jesus did it right but it gets real like there's a lot of faith references in uh romans 828 but uh so basically the premise of the show is not to take it's too far of course but it's really fucking fire is a plane goes missing and for them they just experienced really bad turbulence but when they land it's five years later and it's trying to piece together what happened and I ain't going to spoil it too much but it's really fire show I actually
Starting point is 01:22:55 I was on part of my take and I said that I was watching that show and then I was like guys please don't spoil it for me and then I found out that it hadn't finished yeah so it's unspoilable unspoilable so it's hype oh I hate that though I like binge watching shows because then now
Starting point is 01:23:13 I gotta wait well by the time it comes out you're going to be up to date I don't know I don't got a lot of shit to do Billy There's another theory That there was a
Starting point is 01:23:25 Is it a mummy Yeah that was on board Big T you want to take that one Well it was the There was a mummy who Had been like excavated In England In the early 1900s
Starting point is 01:23:38 Um And that that put some sort of Egyptian curse On the Titanic I wasn't quite Were they taking it to the Bass Pro Shops Pyraman?
Starting point is 01:23:50 They might have been. They were going to... Some people have linked to quote... Sailing up to Mississippi. Some people have linked to quote Mummy's curse to Egyptian artifacts that survivor Margaret Brown really did take with her on the Titanic
Starting point is 01:24:00 to deliver to a museum in Denver. Another version to the story, the mummy was actually aboard the Titanic because the British Museum had sold it to an American who was shipping at home. Okay. There's also the idea that there was a book written
Starting point is 01:24:15 years before the Titanic sailed in 18... 98. 14 years prior to the Titanic disaster, Morgan Robertson wrote a book called Futility or The Wreck of the Titan. This story features an enormous British passenger liner called the Titan, which was deemed unsinkable, carried insufficient lifeboats. And on April voyage, the Titan hits an iceberg and sinks in the North Atlantic with the loss of almost everybody on board. So it was sort of just like basically what happened to the Titanic written. So it was like a Simpsons episode. Yeah. I like that.
Starting point is 01:24:49 version of it. It's like they called this. Who is it Morgan Robertson? Yeah, Morgan Robertson calls everything. There was also a, I think it was like, it was just some Asian TV show that, uh, predicted the outbreak of COVID. I think they actually used COVID as well. Um, it was like a strand. And so it was like, it was like years ago and people like, see, the pandemic. I think, uh, I like, I need to read this book, the wreck of the Titan, which if utility and the wreck of the titan need to take a look at that i'm always really interested the noserdamus type stuff where people just take a text that previously existed and then just kind of like draw the lines
Starting point is 01:25:27 connect the dots yeah i feel like titan to titanic like the idea of something super large being called similar because the titans were like in greek mythology i think that's pretty easy to sort of be like no it's not because they're both supposed to happen it was because they're both giant things that we use a classical term to denote. So, Arian, I've been on the record that I think that there should be a Titanic 2 that gets built. There should be a company that builds an exact replica of the Titanic, set sail from the exact same spot to the exact same spot,
Starting point is 01:26:09 goes the exact same course through the icy water, and doesn't have enough lifeboats on board. And people would buy that shit. people would buy tickets for Titanic 2 guaranteed the ultimate thrill i was with you i was with you on the titanic mulligan until you said not enough lifeboat no because that's the authentic experience people don't want to do the boring shit like imagine if it does if titanic 2 hits an iceberg starts to sink and then there's plenty of of lifeboats and there's you know like 17 support vessels around just in case it sinks that's not the same experience you want the you want the you
Starting point is 01:26:46 want the original feel of like I'm taking my life into my own hands here I also the avatar ride in Florida exactly like the avatar ride in Florida yeah but there's no electricity on board you have to dress in 1900s clothes yes and you could only dress up like jack or rose nothing else well that's the problem is if you have if you sell tickets to this thing there's going to be so many couples that get on board and try to fuck in one of the cars it's just going to be insane people are just going to look at this as a big giant sex cruise that's not that's not the purpose of titanic two the purpose of titanic two is for the modern thrill seeker looking to experience trans oceanic travel with a touch of class there's there's gonna be a line at the front that's another i was called
Starting point is 01:27:32 cap on in the movie was like how it was like everybody would want to be sitting at the very front of the boat like you know what i feel like when she felt like i was flying jack like everybody going to be one to do it's just probably going to be a line for the front of the boat yeah yeah i don't want that i don't want it to get corny on board i want it to be like true to the original feel you have to sell tickets by class too you have to have some people who are willing to you know get dressed up like the people without a penny to their name stay down in stearge sure you can get a band going down there chug a couple pints of stout and do little dance where you stand on your toes and people think that you're really cool because you learn this one ballet trick you can do that whole thing that's fine i just i don't
Starting point is 01:28:11 on my Titanic 2 I don't want it to become like the Disney world of Titanic's you know like there is an element of risk that you're taking into your own hands when you board you can smoke so you can smoke indoor you can smoke at the dinner table rule number one you must smoke indoors
Starting point is 01:28:26 oh by the way think about how much like drugs they had on board of the Titanic opium yeah that everything was legal so there was definitely like hash opium yeah I mean they probably like kids were getting stomach aches and they're like here's some cocaine and there's a hundred Which is known to cure.
Starting point is 01:28:44 Yeah. Oh, yeah. Prostitutes for sure. There will be prostitutes on Titanic 2. I think you should cast everyone in roles. I'm in. So you have to apply. Oh, I'm in.
Starting point is 01:28:54 People would do it. I'm telling you, this is maybe my best idea ever. I've been trying to get people involved in it. I tried to get Damon John from Shark Tank involved in it. He passed. That was stupid. But this is the smartest thing I've ever come up with. Titanic 2 brought to you by PFT Com.
Starting point is 01:29:11 What's a ticket going to run? Good question, Big T. I think that... Same price. If you want to keep it real, though, I get this, what is it? Like, $5, $10 a ticket. I got, don't back out now.
Starting point is 01:29:22 I got investors I have to answer to. I don't know. Oh, you fucking coward. This was the original experience. With inflation, the prices of the inflation. Yeah, price with inflation. J.P. Morgan, like the best tickets were $300. There you go.
Starting point is 01:29:35 300 bucks for the, for the best tickets? Yeah, the best tickets were $300. I don't know if this is going to be profitable anymore. Well, if you take the 300 and those times making now, it's probably like, one of the two parlor suites on the Titanic costs $4,300, which is $50,000 today. 50 grand. That sounds reasonable. 50 grand for the carlo's sweet. That's for like top of the line. Top of the line. You've got your own butler in those. You've got, you know, I think it's like three different bedrooms that you got. Those are the sweets that the old people that didn't even like talk to each other would rent out. It's like the $50,000 suite with three bedrooms for two people. The old man would sleep in one, the old.
Starting point is 01:30:11 woman and sleep in another and the third was just for you know whatever all their shit third class passengers paid between 15 and 40 dollars which is between 170 and 450 okay yeah that's my that's my well that's my well i'm gonna try to swank me a first class shorthy and we're gonna we go we go run a muck in the titanic and then she's gonna kill you at the end for sure but hold on how how true do you there were no black people on the titanic so how how true do you want to make this i think it's you know People of all races are welcome on board my Titanic, too. I just want the coal fire for 10 days. You can work down.
Starting point is 01:30:48 I want the fire to actually happen. Okay. So just for the structural integrity of the boat to be compromised. You have to have that. I'll have a small, a minor coal fire. Well, then we're actually... We'll have like a barbecue inside. Okay, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:31:03 All right. So, and I'm talking like the same dishes, same meals that are served. It needs to be a completely accurate replica of Titanic 1. I got bad news. So a couple of the myths that weren't actually true. The Titanic Band, not really true. And the giant black Newfoundland dog named Riegill or Newfoundland, yeah, Newfoundland. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Newfee? Yeah, it wasn't real either. What dog is that? There was a giant dog saving people in the water and pulling them up. Why are you going to teach me about a dog that I wish was real that I didn't know existed and told me that it's not. Well, everyone wanted it to exist. I still believe.
Starting point is 01:31:41 The dogs don't do shit like that, man. That's not true. They used to put barrels around St. Bernard's and send them out filled with brandy to rescue people on avalanches. Way more humans have rescued humans than dogs have. Billy, where did you see that the band wasn't real? I saw the band, like, there was a band, but they, one shit hit the fan, they weren't just playing on the...
Starting point is 01:32:03 As they should have. That's a dick move. Whoever's call that was to sit. they're like, yo, my nigga, these niggas got to feel comfortable while the ship is sinking, and that's what we here. Fuck y'all. I'm getting on on these boats, nigga. Remember the lady in the movie Titanic, the New Money, Texas Oil Lady? I think it was played by Kathy Bates, right? She went back and she saved a bunch of people. She was real, a real person. So she was helping get people into lifeboats because everybody was panic on board. She was
Starting point is 01:32:32 organizing folks, getting them in there, getting them lowered down, even though she was one of the most wealthy people on board the ship. She was taking things into her own hands. They went out on a lifeboat. Finally, she got in one, got lowered into the water. She kept saying, we need to go back and help people that are in the water right now. The person who was in charge of that lifeboat was like, if you say another word, I'm going to throw you into the ocean because we're going away. We can't go back. They'll drag our ship down. They'll drag her lifeboat down. She waits a couple minutes, grabs an oar, holds it up against the dude. And she's like, take us back or I'm pushing you overboard right now. They took her back. She saved like a bunch of people's lives,
Starting point is 01:33:12 brought her up into the lifeboat and then went away. So she's a real one. Respect to Kathy Bates' character in Titanic. I forget her actual name. It's probably disrespectful of me. But Kathy Bates did a great job honoring her service. Damn. I didn't know that. I didn't know that was a real part. Meanwhile, Rose couldn't share a fucking door with Jack. She's a piece of shit. Rose is the biggest piece of shit on the boat. Maritime law is actually pretty cut through it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:39 Like, they were probably totally allowed to shoot somebody and just be like, yeah. Yeah, no. Preventing our escape. I think the rule is if you're a captain, you can kill anybody on board. And then if there's a mutiny, if people, if enough people get mad at you as captain for killing somebody and they can take the boat by force, then that's kill that's chill too it's like okay now they're the captain i am the captain now i think mary look at me yeah maritime law is it's pretty metal i mean it's one of those situations where you get out there and you realize like you can get away with a lot because the only people
Starting point is 01:34:15 out there are you and the guys yeah it's jungle rules what happens happens it's gta yeah no it's how how how how true to form how how true to form are you with the women and saving women and children thing. So are you talking about like what I believe happened on board the Titanic? You say that one more time, are you saying, are you asking me if I'm on board with that in terms of like, do I believe that happened on the Titanic? No, like if it happens. Oh, from an ethical standpoint, here we go.
Starting point is 01:34:50 Yeah, yeah. I think I am just, but mostly for selfish reasons, mostly, mostly, so that I don't get, I don't get remembered as being an absolute coward. So you're doing it just so people don't think you're a coward. I think probably, I think primarily, yeah. I understand it in theory. Like I would want, I would want my children to survive. I would want women to survive.
Starting point is 01:35:20 But ultimately, like the survival instinct is a real thing where it's like you start to look out for number one. but yeah, I think what would push me over the edge and make me not be a selfish prick is just because I didn't want other people to think I was a selfish brick. It isn't logically, it doesn't make any sense to me. Like, I think in theory it is, I think all children, yes,
Starting point is 01:35:42 but just women doesn't make sense of it. I'm not even from far from a misogynist, but I'm like, don't break up families. Like, if you're there with a family, like, because then the kid, that's trout. Like, they have to see their families. I'm like, if you have a family there, all families should be straight.
Starting point is 01:35:56 Like, all families should be straight. Like, if there's single women on there, it is what it is. You know what I said? It is what it is. I mean, that's what they tell them. I mean, that's what it is. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:36:09 Don't rip me away from my daughters and sons because I got a dick. Like, that's a, that's a big move. I don't know, man. I could be wrong. I think if you're a dad on there and you've got kids, you can't, you can't be like, all right, your kids are going to be safe. Sorry, we're going to kill your dad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:25 And I don't think that's fair. and then you go and then they go off and now they don't have they say you were the only parent there you weren't a woman and now i just can't and now my kids are fatherless and motherless because because of what like in what principle is this i don't know there people did dress up as women and get on the lifeboats really yeah helen bishop claimed her ex-husband dickinson bishop did just this and divorced him four years later after titanic sank see that's what i don't want to be known as yeah this dickinson guy what's his name uh Dickinson Bishop Dickinson Bishop What a prick name too Like come on man Dickinson Bishop is your name
Starting point is 01:37:05 And you're going to go down As being like the biggest asshole ever That's a little on the nose Yeah The captain did go down with this ship Yeah He's the last guy allowed off the ship But respect because like
Starting point is 01:37:17 You got us into this fucking mess Well he may have been set up Unless it was a you mess Unless it was a you bow Yeah good point His last words were well boys You've done your duty And done it well
Starting point is 01:37:26 I ask no more of you. I release you. I don't know that they did it well, to be honest with you. You know the rule of the sea. It's every man to himself now. Has a dick. Oh, big C. I mean, we're sitting here.
Starting point is 01:37:37 We wouldn't be talking about it if they did their jobs well. They lowered their lifeboats in that were like halfway full. And it was like an hour after it started sinking. Like that was the first lifeboat that they got out with. It took an hour. Yeah. But you're right. Billy, you just said like the, you know the rule of the seas?
Starting point is 01:37:53 Yeah, every man for himself. Yeah, just shit like that. sounds kind of cool to say when you're just like we're under the care of the the sweet lord and the high seas right now yes i mean say i mean the thing is the my argument on the women and children thing is that all the men men back then even like you know if they were some ritzie ditsy dude they all had some sort of like sailing or like military training because everyone was just fighting in wars all the time not not back then i don't think yeah what was the last war Well, the British Navy, they had mandatory service.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Most places had mandatory service. So you had very able-bodied men who knew how to deal with, like, those sorts of situations. Yeah. So there was that advantage that they had in survival skills that would be like why they'd give the life votes. I have heard, though, that the band played on board the deck. They might not have played as the ship was going straight up into the water. But the band was definitely playing, right? the band was playing in the upper class the upper class um seating lounge while it was sinking and everyone was packing their things
Starting point is 01:39:04 but it they there's no reports that they actually were on the deck while they were filling up lifeboats you know you know what song the it's reported the last song they played near my body so a do you know what else is like that song with like bad apocalyptic connotation no that is that is the song, Ted Turner, when he started CNN, had the U.S. Army band record a version of them playing that song, and that's what CNN's going to play as the world ends. They still have it. That's what Ted Turner want. Ted Turner is just like a complete psycho. Beautiful song, by the way. Very good song, yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:42 How do you square your opinions on CNN with your opinions on the Atlanta Braves? I don't. Kind of owned by the same guy. Not anymore. Yeah, but really they, they. they got to where they are because of Ted Turner. Ted Turner did a lot of great things for the Atlanta Braves. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:40:00 So you're okay. I don't know that I'd say the same thing about his impact on the American media. This is you separating the art from the artist. Correct. Gotcha. Did a lot of great things for the Braves fans all across the country because that was like the only team on on national TV every night. Also, other myth, they weren't advertising the ship is unsinkable before it went
Starting point is 01:40:20 because they didn't want to give anyone the idea that it could, possibly sink just every boat was marketed as this thing won't sink and it's hard to sell something but there were sinkings before that yeah if like if delta airlines came out with a plane they're like this plane is not going to crash yeah and you're like wait okay there was the idea that the bigger the boat the harder it was to sink so big boats were always considered safer yep so that's why you know the the advertising of the Titanic was what they pushed so that when it sunk, everyone was like, we thought it was unsinkable because it was marked as this giant impervious structure. How big was this iceberg?
Starting point is 01:41:08 Do we know? Do they name icebergs? A hundred feet out of the water. It was reported. Is that big as far as icebergs go? Yeah. 100 feet is pretty tall. That's what? How many stories is that? 33 yards. So that's what, like nine stories, eight stories? out of the water? I think every story is about 10 feet. Yeah, but then you got to include like the roof. Yeah. The basement.
Starting point is 01:41:33 I don't know. Yeah. So, but there's always like four times as much iceberg underneath the water as there is above it, right? That's what they say. I think I did bring 400 feet somewhere, like below the water. 400 feet below the water. So it absolutely fucked the boat up.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Yeah. Allegedly. A hundred feet is, it says on here nine, um, nine to 15 stories because one story is usually almost 11 feet there we go okay nine to 15 stories so here's where i here's where the iceberg story starts to fall apart in my brain i feel like we would know more about this iceberg if it was a legitimate thing i feel like we would have sent people out to do an expedition to the iceberg and probably would have blown it up well icebergs i think are pretty dodgy in the scheme what do you mean like they hit a current and then they melt like that
Starting point is 01:42:23 iceberg could have been halfway to Mexico by the time. They picked it up because of the Gulf Street. I was to say, don't you, just melted. But don't you think if, if an iceberg was that big and took a blow as big as the Titanic that you could like, I don't know, like see, like a crater almost. Yeah, like a helmet, a football helmet that has the other team's pain on it. Yeah. There should be a mark on this iceberg. There should be a mark on the iceberg. And don't you think you would have had like, also don't you think people would have gone out there pretty soon after the Titanic think and taken a picture of it? Yeah, or gone out for vengeance if my relative died on the Titanic.
Starting point is 01:42:58 What would you have done to that iceberg? Blown it up, fucked it up. I would have brought a crew with me. I think there's a good amount of icebergs in that area. Well, then why were they steering a fucking ship through there? We'll never know. I heard that there were two icebergs. Allegedly two icebergs.
Starting point is 01:43:16 Ships have, like icebergs were a problem back then. Why didn't they just go around them? They weren't the first people to hit icebergs. I just don't think that they were a person hit icebergs. I think just the Titanic was, because everyone thought the big boats would get, I think an abnormally large iceberg just hit an abnormally large boat and basically caused the Titanic to sink. I've really become a U-boat guy in the last hour. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:44 Yeah, but the U-boat thing. So have I. The U-boat thing, by the way, for those you don't know, a U-boat is a German submarine that was hugely. instrumental. Wait, wait, wait, wait, way, way, way. Are you man-splaining U-boats right now? Well, not, not a lot of people know what U-Boats are. We've just been talking about U-boats. People probably think it's a boat. No, it's a submarine.
Starting point is 01:44:00 Okay, all right, so when I say U-boat, I'm not pointing fingers at Germany. I'm saying it could have been any type of maritime, like in any sort of aggressive naval appliance, any sort of ship equipped with artillery. I'll point fingers at Germany. Fuck those guys. Okay, Big T's claim. against Germany. I think it could it could have been any ship that had weapons that took the
Starting point is 01:44:28 Titanic out. I don't think it was, I don't think it was an iceberg. QAnon's team U-boat. No, they're not. They are. No, now he's just going to say everything's Q&O. No, the Q&ON's team U-boat because they're saying that there was a premise that all these huge bankers were in bed with like fueling wars and everything's just puppet masters behind. But what's, Which wild is that there are international financiers that are puppet masters that have fueled wars. That's literally happened like hundreds of times. I'm not saying the same people that the QAnon people are saying, I don't know why they sunk the Titanic.
Starting point is 01:45:08 I'm not out here to be like they had a frozen supply of adrenachrome that they were taking across the Atlantic Ocean. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that I think it's worth asking quite all I'm doing is asking questions, Billy. Okay. All I'm doing is asking questions right here. I think that it's fair to say we need to do a second autopsy. We need to dig up the corpse of the Titanic. That's another thing. Why haven't we brought this Titanic up to the surface? No, we checked it out. They do think it was just the coal, the coal fire weakened the hull of the boat and then when it hit a giant iceberg. But how do we know that if we haven't even brought the ship up to the surface to investigate it? There's nobody can't. I think from my, from my understanding, that the ship coming from that amount of pressure couldn't withstand the the pressure
Starting point is 01:46:00 of it coming back up. There's got to be aware. Yeah, just break apart on the way up. There's got to be aware. It's been a hundred years, bro. There's not much that's 100 years old. Well is the anniversary? Like 2012?
Starting point is 01:46:12 Yeah. Well, we should have done it on a hundred year anniversary. Bring that bitch back up. I'm the only person that has big ideas when it comes to Titanic. Everyone else is just like, committed the Titanic to be a part of forgotten history, except for James Cameron. Shout out J.C.
Starting point is 01:46:28 But I'm, I feel like I'm the one that's leading the Titanic awareness renaissance at this point. But plenty of smaller boats hit smaller icebergs and sunk before the Titanic. The Titanic just hit a gigantic iceberg. They never actually, here's that. How do you know the size of the iceberg, Billy? Because they say they didn't from the damage. Squad out there to fuck it up. So, in my opinion, you know what, spin zone?
Starting point is 01:46:55 This is what actually happened. They never thought they'd seen iceberg that large there because they didn't know about global warming, breaking off ice from the Arctic Circle, coming all the way down there. Okay, global warming started at that point? They was just, they... I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:47:10 How much coal, you know, how much coal they were burning? There were a couple industrial revolutions. Yeah. I don't know if it was prevalent at that time. Are you guys starting amping up like am I everyone's just going global warming isn't true and Q&on theories over here yep that's right Billy I'm not I'm not a Ubo guy I'm an iceberg guy but I don't think I don't think the iceberg had much to do with global warming All right so Aaron you're officially on record that you think that the the official explanation that we've been given for the Titanic is is what happened I do I do I have no reason to believe not you I've heard you I've heard you with the Ubo thing it is it is it is a lot of. yeah man but have you thought about it's a lot of that going on but have you thought about not a lot of
Starting point is 01:47:56 but have you thought about do your do you do your research man it's one of those it's one of those things um I don't think I'm mostly invested enough in it to care either way but the evidence to me seems to seems to say that it was probably a nice brain it's probably hubris it's probably hickorys would you care if it came out that it was a you but would that make you care more no not in the slightest interesting it's been so long yeah just a hundred a hundred year i'm supposed
Starting point is 01:48:26 to get mad at a hundred year beef like nah he was also sunk on tax day just something to think about billy's rolling his eyes again is that also a cute out there i actually it's actually crazy the deep state loves the symbolism and numbers bill i mean qanon is literally just historical fiction yeah that's just i mean Some of it's fun. So I angle that. I'm not going to start reading it because I don't want to start reading and be like, wow, this is like really good alternate history. Billy would so get sucked into Q and I would not.
Starting point is 01:49:03 I would not. A lot of the history books they taught you in school are historical fiction, too. Don't forget that. Like what? There's a lot of, that, no, that's what your side says is that all the history we teach at school. Your side. What is my side? The lips.
Starting point is 01:49:20 no no no we know all we say is you leave specific shit out and it's told through a lens okay yeah that's that's what my but that's the truth but you know mike can we get just a clip of big t saying the limbs the i mean what people don't talk about the civil war is how they had two armored ships fighting for the first time that was pretty sick again the they had what was it called like the monitor versus like the crocodile no or what was they had like these two armored ships and they were just like steel plated
Starting point is 01:49:56 and it was the first time in history that two like very advanced naval sort of tanks basically went at it you don't talk about that that's not that's not included in our fake yeah why aren't they telling us about that
Starting point is 01:50:10 yeah the monitor in the USS I'm the monitor in the I remember something like that. I mean, I could be wrong, but I vaguely remember something like that. But Battle of Hampton Roads.
Starting point is 01:50:23 I could be wrong. Yeah, they just, they like literally were in these giant metal coffins just shooting giant cannibals at each other. All right, let's take a vote. How many people in this room believe that there was an iceberg?
Starting point is 01:50:39 One, two. Aye. Three, wait. I'm both. I think, I think the Germans slash whoever had the U-boat knew when... As a flip-flopper.
Starting point is 01:50:49 No, I said this earlier. No, you're fake news. I said this earlier. Whoever had the U-boat knew that they were going into some treacherous territory specifically positioned themselves there to make the Titanic hit the iceberg. I think they both happened.
Starting point is 01:51:03 So you're saying that the U-boat revealed themselves, let the Titanic know that they were being chased. No. No, no, no, no. They took the Titanic and downed it when they knew it was going to be either to make it hit the iceberg or when it was close to the icebag?
Starting point is 01:51:20 Are you saying they got hijacked? Are you saying they got hijacked? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wherever the U-boats positioned them, I said this earlier, the U-boats positioned themselves to be, they knew where the iceberg was, whether the Titanic did or not,
Starting point is 01:51:35 and they sunk the ship next to the iceberg and either made it hit it or made it look like it hit it. Or they pulled the iceberg in front of it. They put a giant net around it. What about this? What if the people you boat started the industrial revolution, the first industrial revolution, to increase carbon, uh, was it, emissions into the atmosphere that would then in turn break off part of the North Pole
Starting point is 01:52:01 that would then travel down into the pathway that Titanic 30 years later. The thing is like, like, like, that's a lot. Yeah. Actually, probably the easiest explanation would be that they did put a hijacker or an assassin on board and his job was just to steer the ship. directly into an iceberg But how would he have done that Because he didn't Like hurt or kill the captain
Starting point is 01:52:25 I don't know Maybe the captain owed some money Did any of the crew survive I think some of them did Most of them passed away I think most The ones who did get out Were like the guys who were jumping on lifeboats
Starting point is 01:52:40 They shouldn't have So they most of them were just laying low Yeah changing their name When they got to Ellis Island everybody everybody's last name is darson now yeah so wait so so big t you were saying that finway park opened up later on that week same week yep did you think anybody was on the titanic and attended probably yeah because those are the high rate probably yeah you probably take a take a week off yeah that's a quick that's a quick turn around to go to a baseball game that'd be like the first thing i would want to do is i would want to i would want to i would want to just like
Starting point is 01:53:16 you know live my life every day it was a present but I felt like there'd be a certain amount of PTSD you just saw a tragic event where like crowds of people might trigger you in a new newly built structure I would
Starting point is 01:53:32 I would move to Florida be like no ice actually funny story there's a guy named George Beauchamp who escaped he was the sole person to escape with his lice from two of the worst maritime disaster of the 20th century he survived the Titanic and then he got on the Lucitania what oh wow he was uh he was working
Starting point is 01:53:53 the engine room of the Titanic and he got a job as a fireman stoker aboard the Lusitania and he survived that one too yeah well I mean if you think about it though it's not that impressive well it's impressive but his second survival is not that impressive because when the ship starts to go down you're like I've done this before I'm way more equipped for survival than anybody on his boat so it's actually that makes sense as you survive too and also i think with all these historical coincidences that we don't understand like everyone's got six degrees of separation nowadays and we're what seven billion people the population was a lot lower back then yeah you know what was it the average lifespan was i think about 50 years i'm like 50 but then because of vaccines
Starting point is 01:54:39 and modern and modern medicine we have we have up that to mid 70 these ish. So I want to give a shout out to Margaret Brown, the unsinkable Molly Brown. That is the lady that was played by Kathy Bates in Titanic. Shout out Margaret Brown, the unsinkable Molly Brown. Saved a lot of people's lives that day because she took the lifeboats back when they were saying, we're going to throw you overboard if you keep asking is this. She should have, she should have doxed homeboy that said that. Yeah, she should have. Yeah, absolutely definitely because the the shame that they that they that they that they would have to live with like would be just like you like you don't want to be known as that like the dude that wouldn't
Starting point is 01:55:24 turn around yeah she should have docks them it was literally back then it was about one and a half billion people really which is a seventh of what it is now that is that is how math works i know but like think about it so everyone involved was just so much more interconnected to different things the the wealthy people um on their that that that's that's that's insane to me that many like it was like three or four like like the wealthiest yeah like that's that's a lot but i feel like that was sort of like going on the titanic would be like attending I don't know Like what was the
Starting point is 01:56:10 The Kentucky Derby? Yeah Some shit like that Yeah Yeah What's the biggest disaster Like Woodstock 99 Or like Firefest
Starting point is 01:56:19 I went to the Firefest If somebody If I would If I could meet an actual Firefest Survivor That'd be really interesting I played high school football With one of them
Starting point is 01:56:28 Really? Yeah Do you want out on the show He's a rapper now No Okay No Definitely not
Starting point is 01:56:34 Hey, hey, put his, put his, put his, put his link in the group chat. I'll check you, man. I'll put his SoundCloud. Hey, does he suck? I'm very supportive of all my friends work. There you go, Billy. I love it. Wow.
Starting point is 01:56:47 Hey, whoever your homeboy is, he just, he just, you know, I love it. I think it's good. I think it's good. Yeah, probably trash. But saying that shit anyway, because I'll give him a listen. All right. So I think we've reached an agreement that there was, that there may, there might not have been an iceberg. We don't know.
Starting point is 01:57:03 We'll never know. No, we have not, but we did not reach that agreement. We'll never know. We need to do. The burden of proof lies in your hand. All right. Well, at the very least, I think we've reached the agreement that they should rebuild the Titanic for Titanic 2. I'm on that.
Starting point is 01:57:16 Okay. There we go. I think maybe we should. We got a couple other things we've got to get into here. You guys want to do the Tennessee Minute? We do the Tennessee Minute. We do the Tennessee Minute. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:57:29 People love the Tennessee Minute. Big Tee looks so pumped. Big T. Ready to do this? Sure. I've got the little mini guitar here, so we've got a theme song for the Tennessee Minute. Ready? One, two, three, four.
Starting point is 01:57:42 Wish that I was on old Rocky Top down in the Tennessee Hills. Ain't no smoggy smoke on Rocky Top. Ain't no telephone bills. Once I had a girl on Rocky Top, half bear the other half cat. Wild as a mink, but sweet-ass. to pop i still dream about that rocky top you'll always be home sweet home to me good old rocky top tennessee rocky top tennessee all right he's actually on spotify actually it's been a lot more music all right now it's time for the tessy minute uh big tea take it away uh we did unfortunately
Starting point is 01:58:34 lose 41 to 34 to pit on Saturday. A lot of too many turnovers, too many misthrows. We gave up 27 points in the second quarter. That wasn't good. But our boy, Tyler Barron, did he. He had four tackles, two and a half for loss. So really driving his value up this week. Hendon Hooker came in, backup quarterback played really well.
Starting point is 01:58:55 He also reached out to Madeline. Apparently Tyler's going around the locker room, just letting everybody know that Ariens handing out bags. So he also wants to get involved. He came in, played pretty well. So he may... I do want to put out PSA to our dude, Tyler, though. I'm fair.
Starting point is 01:59:12 But stop trying to pimp me, though. I see my man's... I see my man with a chicken wing promo on his... On his IG page, because I follow him now. Ain't no way them niggas gave you two bands, folks. So, like, like, I'm all for... If you charge an air by two bands, let's do this shit. But if you just, if you just, if you're trying to get me because I got it, I ain't with that.
Starting point is 01:59:36 That's bad business, man. I don't play that. You know what I'm saying? How la me, doggy? How lave me? All right. I think that's fair. That's fair.
Starting point is 01:59:43 I still respect them, though, for asking for it. That's not. Oh, the respect is still there. But, but, but game respect game. So it's like if, if you, if you, if you got the balls to do that to me, you got to you got to understand that I got the balls to do it back to you. I'm, well, let's get you play, but let's, come on. Come on.
Starting point is 02:00:00 Come on, man. we go i hope tyler's okay after suffering what looked like a devastating injury yeah just coincidentally happened to have 10 players in the field in the red zone on defense and he looked like he got sniped yeah he hit the ground i hope he's doing okay josh heibel was non-committal on his his uh his status this morning yeah i hope he's okay i just hope he's alive because it looked like heads up heads up play yeah it was it was uh pretty funny if you have a got a chance to take a look at it go look at tyler baron hitting the deck um we will we will have an update on Tyler soon hopefully what is we good we good mad dog
Starting point is 02:00:36 what's the deal with Tyler um Avery's been dealing more with that okay um I think Avery has more of a he's got an update on him okay we're checking with him so Tyler Tyler's sitting in our DMs right now but rest assured Tyler we will get to you but Avery is at a parcel classic right now so um I don't want to I don't want to like interrupt negotiations if they've been had Avery and Tyler negotiated with each other I love it all right that that concludes the Tennessee minute, Aaron,
Starting point is 02:01:01 unless you have anything else you'd like to add to the Tennessee minute. That fast offense shit don't work,
Starting point is 02:01:06 though. Slow it down? Patience. Patience. Shit, dumb. We're going to figure it out.
Starting point is 02:01:14 We got Tennessee Tech this week. Then we're going to Florida. 7 o'clock. It's going to be. Big L. I unfortunately
Starting point is 02:01:21 think so also. Let's just see. Let's just see what happens. All right. All right. That does it for the Tennessee
Starting point is 02:01:28 minute on macro dosing. We also have some whist mails we want to get to but we're going to we're going to move forward with what we discussed last week which is the mini dosing what are we where are we calling it we're calling it nano dosing wait billy threw out nanodosing to that i like i like i like nanodosity especially because my homeboy thinks nano means robots so yeah yeah nanodosing or we'll call it nanodosing also um want to just get a feud going fuck son of a boy dad fuck that podcast yeah there's some
Starting point is 02:02:00 bitches. They're talking shit. They're talking shit and guess what? We'll stomp you out. Bite the curb bitch. You know that. Put me on game. I'm unaware of this. What's going on? Well, little Sasquatch King in New York. He thinks he's a king. He thinks he's a king. Spends all his time at the bank. I never see him at the gym.
Starting point is 02:02:16 Or the kingdom. That's all I'm saying. Never see him in the Octagon. Little bitch can't fight. And he's talking shit. If y'all ride and I guess it's off principle, but Lil Sasquash said, the arian foster's a bitch he ain't say that he did he typed it he didn't say it out loud
Starting point is 02:02:35 he ain't type it and he ain't say i think yeah i heard different him this dude roan run around doing eating food run around eating food classic yeah classic fuck those guys they they think they they chug milk too they can't they can't do shit fuck them um they don't want the smoke that's all i'm saying a little podcast beef never heard anybody fuck them their podcast they think they got a podcast it comes out on Tuesdays, we got a podcast that comes out on Tuesdays. We're king of Tuesdays.
Starting point is 02:03:05 King of Tuesday. That's right. We're the King of Tuesdays. And possibly Thursday and Fridays now. And possibly what? Thursdays or Fridays now. Oh shit. Sucks to be them.
Starting point is 02:03:17 Nano dose. They don't got no nano shit. They got no nanodads. They don't got the limited nano release drop. All I'm saying is they're going to have to invent new days of the week for us pretty soon because we're going to dominate them on all the other ones. So tough day to do this son of a boy dad listener.
Starting point is 02:03:35 Sorry that you had to hear him get bodied like that. But we will be releasing our nanodosing on, are we doing it on Thursday? We can do Thursdays. Let's do it Thursday. I like Thursday. Mikey podcast. Thursday. All right, Thursday is when it's coming out.
Starting point is 02:03:50 So we got some voicemails. We'll do one today. Are we going to do the Arian question today? Oh, yeah. Arian, did you think about that question from last week about giving everyone that on this podcast is superpower based on their personality from last week? I did not.
Starting point is 02:04:04 I apologize. No, you're good. But I want to tell you this. Circle back next week and I've got you. Okay. Luckily, we have good voicemails today. Just somebody just a little reminder in the text I know. I should have texted you last night. A little selective
Starting point is 02:04:21 memory with the CTE. That's all good. Let's go. Yeah. Okay. So we'll do, are we going to do one today? We'll do one today and then listen on Thursday. day for our first nano episode is it nanodose or a nano episode i'm going to call it a nanodos so listen on thursday for a nanodose and those are going to be i think we've nailed down um like two to three um it's going to be like 15 minutes two to three voicemails and it's going to be only voicemails so we're not getting into like more titanic or anything just going to be voicemails so remember to
Starting point is 02:04:54 um send in your questions to our number which is so if you want you can go on our Twitter the numbers on our Twitter you can also call in at 347 560-0401 and leave a voicemail there I go through all of them and I will hopefully get to you guys and so nanodosing is officially all voicemails all the time so we'll do one here and then the rest will be four later before we get to today's first voicemail three cheese is our sponsor here. We love Three Chi. Three Chi is the industry leader in Delta 8 THC products.
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Starting point is 02:06:32 promo code macro, you get 5% off that order. Type in promo code macro at checkout, 5% off your order at 3chee.com. This is Jackson from Minneapolis, and I know you guys are big national treasure fan, so I was wondering,
Starting point is 02:06:48 if you guys found the book of secrets, what is the one secret that you'd want answer, one conspiracy that you want to know about in that book? Love the show. You guys are all so if you guys can hear that if you had the book of secrets from national treasure what is the one answer to conspiracy or a question that you have that you would want answered from there i got a couple um just want to know if jfk was really killed by the mob i think that's a pretty
Starting point is 02:07:21 decent one but just what happened to jfk right also who sunk the USS main um yeah the main the main okay what would you do with that information I don't know I think like if the USS Maine got sunk
Starting point is 02:07:37 then the Titanic also got sunk and the USS was the one off of Hanoi oh you're talking about the Gulf of Tonkin yeah the Gulf and Tonkin
Starting point is 02:07:51 yeah that definitely got sunk too and yeah probably a bunch of other stuff which is manufacturing. All right. Aaron, what you got? I would, I would, I would, I would, I would know about MLK.
Starting point is 02:08:07 Um, give me, give me all the info about that. Why y'all said he muck. I know the FBI was, was on his bumper. CIA was on his bumper. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:08:16 Uh, so I want, I want to know the ends and outs of that one. Big T. I guess in terms of a specific one, aliens just because like, if there are aliens, that changes like, everything about the world
Starting point is 02:08:29 but I'm big into like old US I'd want to know if there's just anything with the Civil War like I don't know what specifically but I'm big into like Civil War history like maybe there's another reason why I was fought
Starting point is 02:08:42 that we weren't talking about growing up sure that's so stupid no I'm just saying like what if it came out it's like well actually it was a rising tariff song well so if you've watched National Treasure the beginning of that movie is about
Starting point is 02:08:56 Like it starts in the Civil War So But if there was like another reason that you could then point out and be like See, I knew it That's not no That's so stupid I 100% believe that there was The reason that the war happened was different than the reason why the people were actually
Starting point is 02:09:16 Fighting the war They just had no idea and they were lied to I have no idea I bet that there were a lot of people that just like joined the army in like The state of Virginia because all their neighbors did it and they're like fuck this we're going to war they they were lied and said like the north is coming to fuck us up yeah i think i would want to know uh what are files on alex jones look like whether or not he has ever cooperated with the federal government
Starting point is 02:09:45 on any level whatsoever is he a CIA asset is what i'm getting at that's what i would like to know either that or which president had the biggest dick i think that'd be cool It's Johnson. We don't know that, Billy. It was... I mean, I bet you Abe Lincoln was packing. I was tall. It was tall, so I think...
Starting point is 02:10:08 He also... He had a super high voice. Yeah? Yeah, but that's how he could project to everybody in his speeches. He had a very, like, raspy, like... Voice that was, like, high. I would just like to know more about
Starting point is 02:10:22 all the presidents and First Lady's sex lives, really I would like to know who had the most mistresses probably JFK we don't know all of them had misdresses all of them all of them was fucking something on the side I would want to know which first lady gave the best top although I've heard that it was Nancy Reagan she was called the blowjob queen in California for a while this is true I'm not I'm not saying it as like an indictment of Nancy Reagan
Starting point is 02:10:53 I'm a sex positive guy I heard that she was like famous for giving head all the time before she hooked up with Ronald I heard Eleanor Roosevelt Yeah may have pegged I'm going to just
Starting point is 02:11:11 real quick look up Nancy Reagan Blow job Let's see Also I mean of course what like what the hell I mean would Think the book of secrets would include what the hell happened on Epstein's Island? Sure.
Starting point is 02:11:28 Depends how active Clinton was journaling. According to Kitty Kelly's biography, Nancy Reagan was renowned in Hollywood for performing oral sex. Just say yes, Nancy in the days when she was Nancy Davis was known to give the best blowjob in town.
Starting point is 02:11:45 Not only in the evening, but in offices. That was one of the reasons that she was very popular on the MGM lot. To respect. Well, I bet Reagan was very faithful. No. Yeah. I don't want to comment on that.
Starting point is 02:12:02 He was a movie star. Bro, ain't no way you're the leader of the quote-unquote free world, and you're not tip-tipping somewhere, no. You tip and stop it. I think Obama was very loyal. Him and Michelle are homies. Fuck, fuck, no. Hell no.
Starting point is 02:12:22 Obama was getting on the side bro, I promise me. He's done a great job keeping that quiet. I would like to know about the Illumonaut. So does that So is There was There was that one time
Starting point is 02:12:36 That I think he was He was giving a speech out in California I forget who he was giving it to But he said I'm going to do my Obama impression. You're ready? Just want to say for the record You guys have
Starting point is 02:12:48 The most attractive Attorney General of all the states about Kamala Harris and then people were like huh that's a that's a weird thing for him to say and he was just like
Starting point is 02:13:00 I don't know if he was just putting like a vibe check out there to see if Harris imagine though if they if they hooked up do you guys remember that video of Trump actually got like his first presidential briefing and he just looked totally shell-shocked yeah like what the fuck did they tell him
Starting point is 02:13:17 that's what I want to know maybe aliens yeah I would want to know about the Illuminati. That would be my. I probably told him his job description. I'd probably told him about the Nancy Reagan blowjob thing. It was upset. He couldn't get it. Well, Malani is probably cracking with it too, though, no?
Starting point is 02:13:36 Yeah, I would like to know, I would like to know who she was fucking for the last four years. Yeah, it wasn't Donald. They didn't really live together, right? They didn't spend time together at all. No, she mainly lived like up here. Yeah. I heard that, well, there was one rumor.
Starting point is 02:13:51 that was it a Tiffany and company security guard that he works on the bottom floor of Trump Tower it's been an open secret that he's been piping her down for the last several years I don't know if that's still true or not Tiffany security guard yeah huh yeah solid all right so yeah that's what I would want to know I lookie of a little fetishized fantasy of mine so make love to a Republican woman I think we can make that happen therein sliding to the DMs if you're a Republican. Yeah, just highlight. We don't got to talk about much.
Starting point is 02:14:27 You don't think you ever have? Unbeknownst. Well, right. That's what I'm saying. In college, there was just a lot going on. But I'm talking about as an adult, as a functioning member of society, paying taxes. No. Because, like, usually how do you court women is, you know, intellectually or you be handsome, right?
Starting point is 02:14:49 Which, you know, I'm like a. I'm like a seven. I'm six or seven. How far, how far right are we talking? We're talking like, you know, just,
Starting point is 02:14:56 you know, fiscally conservative or indivist. I want somebody who, I want, I want, I want, I want somebody who, if I talk to them at a bar,
Starting point is 02:15:04 I'm like, get the fuck away from me. Like, we need to get Tommy. We don't have, we don't have nothing in common, right? But like, it would be amazing just to have that energy build up.
Starting point is 02:15:16 And then like, we just go on about our ways. And like, we enjoyed our night together. And, you know, it may, make some you know
Starting point is 02:15:22 common ground you know I may see things differently and so may she you never know one Monday Eric comes back and he's like you know what yeah my life has been changed all right we've been red pills we can we can make it happen and Billy for the record
Starting point is 02:15:38 yeah like a anti-vax is that a Republican thing no no no no no no I don't consider that to be a Republican thing I consider that to be like it's it's driven by Republican certain republican congressional people that would say the majority of the anti-vaks disinformation is coming from Republican politicians it's and it's not I can't even say it because it's not like they're promoting it but they'll it's it's it's real
Starting point is 02:16:10 undertones of of they know what their constituency wants right yeah on the Democratic side it's mostly just like super A lot of black folk, a lot of just super woke people just doing way too much with the government trying to kill everybody and shit, which is the dumbest shit in the world. I was talking to my man's dead. I was like, my dude, we already talked about that. Never mind. I don't want to get back into the vaccine conversations. All right.
Starting point is 02:16:33 So to listen to the rest of nanodosing for more awesome conversations like what presidents fuck the dirtiest. Listen up on Thursday. Thursday coming out. Boom. Nanodosing. Don. Do you want to do big teas underwriting? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 02:16:47 Big tea. What color underw? where, Aaron. Gray. Gray, good choice. Like a somber, reflective Monday gray. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:16:57 It's gray. Failed it. No, it's blue. What? That's great. Oh, it is a gray waistband. Okay, that's what I saw. I'm going to give you half a point.
Starting point is 02:17:06 Yeah. I'm a bad. All right. All right. We will see you guys next week. Our Thursday. Yeah, we'll see you guys Thursday. Love you guys. Hmm.

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