Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - What Is Going On In Russia | NANODOSE
Episode Date: June 27, 2023On today's episode Donnie and Big T are in studio with Billy and PFT on the call. Big T tells us about his trip to London plus we get into Putin and the Russian Coup.You can find every episode of this... show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing
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Hey, what's up, guys?
Welcome back to macro dosing.
This is nanodosing.
It is Tuesday, June 27th.
And I'm somewhere in North Carolina, and Big T, the M&Ms, and Donnie are in studio.
Arian and PFT are both playing golf right now.
As I said, this podcast is going to turn into a golf podcast.
You were supposed to be playing golf as well.
No, I was never supposed to.
be playing golf i'm i'm here on some of the weirdest circumstances are you here are you there as
like pf t's caddy uh i think for a later video but uh we have a lot of part of my take to record
okay and billy might be frozen yeah i was informed i would be uh filling in yesterday by pft and
he told me that him, Arian and Billy
would not be in the studio, so me and Big T
would be holding it down.
The duo people have been clamoring
from what I've been told.
I was like a little just
I wouldn't say worried, but I mean
Big T, do we have a lot in common?
I don't know.
Maybe more
than you would
anticipate, but
maybe not as much as
you have in common with
other people or I have in common with other people.
people. Yeah. So we can use this podcast to find out about what we do have in common and
riff on that. Because I don't know if we're, if we're going to be getting Billy back.
We thought we finally had Billy's connection figured out and then that lasted all of 45 seconds.
Yeah. So you got back from London like two hours ago. Yeah. And you're out there watching
baseball. Yeah. So my dad's a big Cardinals fan. So for Christmas, uh, his Christmas gift.
from me was that we went to the
London series. It was really cool.
It was fun.
Yeah, it's funny because Dave was just brought on the news
by Pierce Morgan to be like, oh,
like, I don't even know why they had a mom,
but the premise was like, oh, Dave, you hate cricket,
but cricket is superior to baseball.
And meanwhile, you're flying to London to watch baseball, not cricket.
The cricket highlights I've seen look pretty electric.
I don't understand the game fully, but have you watched cricket in person?
No, that's high on my bucket list is to do a series on cricket in India, because it's like, it's their national sport there.
And apparently the Premier League there is like the Premier League for soccer in the UK.
The fans are just like insanely passionate.
Yeah, they take that shit seriously.
If you, Cricket has the largest fan base, I think, of almost any sport in the world.
I think football, international football is the biggest.
But like, there's always a running part of my take joke that we should start becoming a cricket podcast and start to like learn Indian because it would expand our viewership.
Yeah, Sassan Tendlkar is the goat.
He's the goat.
it um yeah although unfortunately i think barstool sports is banned in india i remember dave wrote a blog
about that maybe like eight years ago just randomly got banned one day um so that's not gonna
that's gonna hurt our following um but yeah no i kind of understand how to play it's like when you
are playing baseball you have the ump who just you know calls three strikes but instead of strikes they
just have like bowling pins set up behind the batter. And if the bowler, which is their word for a
pitcher, if they like knock over three of those pins, then that's like three strikes, you're out,
which is kind of nice because then you don't need like a strike zone because you just-
Subjective. Well, yeah, because you just know it's a strike if it's able to knock over one of those
pins because those pins are directly behind the guy. No robot umpires and cricket. And I think everybody
bats, right? That's why some of the games take
like days.
Yeah. Yeah. I don't think it's like
a three outs and then the inning is over.
I also don't know
if there are foul balls or if you can
just hit it wherever you want. Yeah, I've seen
in the Oval. Just hit it
anywhere. It's more about
defending the wicket.
Yeah. Yeah,
if you're the batsman, if you're up, then
you just try to not let them knock over those things
any which way that you can. I'll say I've seen
some cricket highlights of defensive plays.
And I'm always, like, extremely underwhelmed by the best catches in cricket history.
If you watch, like, a compilation of the best defensive plays, you're like, well, this would be number four on a web gym.
Well, the wall is like four inches tall.
So they dive over the wall to make a catcher like, oh, he leaped over the wall, and it's this tall.
Yeah.
So can you imagine Andrew Jones playing cricket?
Oh, he'd be the goat.
He'd be the goat.
So I'm just joining you guys right now.
and I apologize for missing.
We're finishing up our practice round here for the Riter Cup.
Big T.
How was England?
How are you feeling?
Are you more sympathetic towards the British?
I know that you hate the royal family.
Are you coming back soft?
I actually asked a couple British people about the royal family,
and they all seem to more or less share my opinion.
So that was good.
I like the British people, good folks over there.
Do they have respect for you as an American?
Yeah, I think so.
Most seem to.
They seemed very friendly and, like, you know,
cool, cool people.
Met a couple people who listened to the show.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Did you do anything to help expand our English listenership?
What would you have me do to do that, Billy?
I don't know, just like start handing out flyers.
like say macrodosing?
Nope, I sure didn't.
Rebrands.
Those don't exist.
Big T and Crumpets.
That's good stuff.
Oh, yeah.
But yeah, it was fun.
Good people in Great Britain.
Now, did you experience any culture shock over there?
Because I would say UK is probably the most similar to the U.S. you can get.
Yeah, it wasn't radically different.
The first time you're in a car on the left side of the road.
road is mildly terrifying.
Yeah. I'm worried about having to drive on the other side of the road because I rented a car when I'm going to Ireland in August.
And yeah, I don't trust myself driving on the other side of the road.
And like everywhere is a roundabout. So the roundabouts go in the wrong way was weird.
Yeah. Yeah. That was something. But I mean, yeah, it's pretty much. I mean, it was very similar to New York in a lot of ways.
were you rocking
were you rocking university Tennessee gear over there in England
some yeah
I like that
I thought I would maybe like run into somebody
generally anywhere you go if you wear
UT stuff somebody will say something
I've had people you know
here obviously all over the
all over the country nobody said anything
in
in London though
what would be the greeting that you would
expect from a UT fan
just like go voles?
Yeah, yeah, something like that, I guess.
Yeah, they don't really have a, like a call-in response like a lot of teams have.
Like, if you see somebody from Alabama, it's just roll tide.
If you see somebody from Ohio, they just do OH, and then they spell the name back.
I don't like those, though. Those are too kitchy.
Just go vals.
Yeah, like, oh, you went to UT sick.
Yeah, like normal people talk.
Right.
isn't it wild how like the rest of the world just doesn't have college sports right like are there
some countries that have a big like college sports scene well it's kind it's kind of crazy to think
about college sports being a thing in america like there's nothing about an institute of higher
learning that would naturally tie it into also athletics it's just something that we do in the
united states there's there's club sports at different english universities they're just not as big
like they have them but they're not televised they're not because no one takes them as
seriously yeah we were on a we toured stanford bridge where chelsea plays and i asked the tour
guide uh how many seats it had and it's it's only like 40,000 it's pretty small and uh and we got
to talking about uti i think i was wearing a u t hat or something and i was like yeah that's
where i went to school and like our football stadium on campus has a hundred thousand and
he was like, are you serious?
In your face.
I was like, yeah, it's like two and a half of these, no big deal.
But like, yeah, like, I don't think there really is another country that does that.
Maybe Canada?
I don't know.
Does Canada have college athletics like we do?
They do.
I know they have college football, but not anywhere to the degree that we have.
We had a football guy at the week one from a regiant, like St.
Regina University, I think it was.
I know McGill is supposed to be really good, I think.
Well, that's also just like, that's like the Harvard of Canada.
Miguel?
McGill recruited me.
Would it have been way cheaper if you went there?
Like, is college way cheaper in Canada than it is here in the U.S.?
I think for Americans it's cheaper.
Let me check.
McGill U.S. tuition.
There's a couple of schools in England that a lot of people are going to because it's so much cheaper like St. Andrews in Scotland.
Domestic students pay for McGill an average of $7,400 Canadian dollars per year, the range of three to 11 per year, depending if you were a local Quebec citizen or not.
but I'm trying to see what it is.
Oh, U.S. students have to pay much more.
Which is interesting.
While you're looking that up, Billy, I did do something in London that I don't know how familiar you are.
How much do you know about the Tower of London?
Oh, the Tower of London is quite the place.
You would love the Tower of London.
It's sick.
It's just a tour of where all these people got executed.
It's pretty sick.
And tortured.
Yeah.
There's a whole torture, like, wing.
You can go see all the different torture devices.
I remember seeing that as a kid.
And the thing that fucked me up, they had, like, a big cauldron.
And I guess, like, they would occasionally just boil you alive.
Sounds like.
I believe it.
Yeah.
Do they have the, uh, the worst ways to go?
Do they have the Iron Maiden there?
I'm not sure.
I, if, if I saw that, I glanced by it.
It's like the tiny chair that you sit in that's in.
closed by metal and there's spikes on the door
so they just shut the spikes into you
and they also when I went there they had
the torture wheel
like the Catherine wheel
that they just put you on to stretch you out
yeah
I mean people
people were probably so bored like thank God
we have the internet and stuff because they just were like
so bored they were just becoming so creative
on how to kill and torture people
I know
and they turned it into a spectator sport
which was fucked up yeah
It's like, it's like that Terry Rozier tweet, like, Osama bin Laden's tall as hell.
He should have hooped instead of trying to kill people.
Like if they just, if they'd focus their creative energy on something productive, like the arts,
then maybe they would have had a couple of containers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Turns out there is actually a lot of BDSM tourism to Tower of London because they're inspired by it.
I don't think anything would get me less horny
than hearing a bunch of British people talk about
how to torture each other back in the 1400s
when they didn't invade.
I think there's some people that would really love that.
Like you?
There's some sickos.
No, not.
They also, did you ever hear that like a bowl
that they used to use back in the day
it was like a metal bowl that they would heat up and then throw you inside of it.
Yeah.
And then it's like your screams would come out of the bull's mouth and just sound like the
bowl was whatever, mooing or something like that.
Yeah, and like steam would come out of it because they'd fill it up with charcoal and shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That rocks.
Yeah, I guess.
I mean, that's why.
I almost feel like some of the stuff that they used to torch you back then wasn't even,
they probably didn't even use it that much.
They just had it, and then people would talk about and get scared.
That's a good point.
But, I mean, like, there's some pretty medieval ISIS videos out there,
and I still, I think they definitely did do it.
How many ISIS videos do you watch a week, Billy?
I watched way too many ISIS videos one time in 2014.
And I didn't understand that that type of evil existed in the world.
Yeah, thankfully, there's not.
a lot of those anymore. Wait, what was I? What were you saying before? I forget.
ISIS videos. Oh, cast iron bowl. Oh, yeah. I was saying that the French actually with the
guillotine, that's not a bad way to go. Yeah. Yeah. They had it down to a science because normally,
if you just had like some dude with an axe and he had to chop off your head, he wasn't always going to be
able to do it in one swing. It would take like a few swings. But with,
the guillotine they had that blade so high up it was just a nice clean drop and uh yeah that's got
to be a pretty like instant death um i don't know some people see that like some people theorize
that when you get your head chopped off by the guillotine that like your head might still have
consciousness for like five seconds and you could like just see your body there for a second i was
going to mention i'm pretty sure yeah i pretty sure they tested that like they told a prisoner
keep blinking until you can't and he like was blinking for 15 seconds that okay that's
fucked up so maybe not that great yeah I'm not trying to see my headless body I mean would be a
very rare occasion that you'd be the only one to be able to see your body that's the thing is like
there's really no way to tell for sure it's impossible to know yeah even with lethal injection
like everyone's thought that was super humane
but we don't really know like that
that could suck as well
yeah now we've run out of a lot of the drugs
that they need for it and it's becoming
like really painful and
lengthy
they're saying bring back to firing squad
yeah we've discussed that on this show
yeah we have
well they got that
they got that Canadian
vessel
that does it by CO2
by CO2 yeah
what if it was just
death by heroin.
Yeah, I'm in.
Yeah.
Your Portland's looking into that pretty soon.
I got to get going because they're about to do the golf draft,
but I wanted to tap in and say welcome back to the state's Big T.
Thank you.
I'm glad they let you out.
Yeah.
PFT, should I caddy for you?
Yeah, sure.
Okay, so tomorrow?
Yeah, vibes.
Keep the vibes, I, Billy.
Okay, perfect.
All right.
I love you guys.
See you later.
See it.
He's out.
Bye.
I will say speaking of returning to the United States, I came back and you have to go through customs, obviously.
And the woman checked my passport, and she goes, where are you coming from?
I said, London.
She goes, did you bring anything back from London?
I said, no.
She goes, okay, go.
So you could just bring whatever you want.
No, but they scan your shit.
No.
Because I just had my carry-on that I was walking through.
with nobody looked at it it didn't go through any scanner or anything i was just like no which was
true i didn't but uh like you could just bring whatever you want yeah like there are times like
i've i've actually had some things i just say no and like there's no scanning or anything you can
just bring it in the only time i had a problem i was coming back from china and i had like
ten cartons of cheap sigs and um i think i had them in a separate bag so they could just see them
And I guess there's a rule that if you're bringing more than $40 worth of cigarettes back,
I had to like pay a tariff or a tax on them.
They'll always find a way to get you to pay another tax, pal.
Yeah.
Cigarette smuggling.
Cigarette smuggling is like a major, where do I read that?
Like North Korea has a major tobacco smuggling ring in the United States.
I believe that.
I'm sure it's like crack cocaine for them.
Albania too.
they're known to be like they smuggle cigarettes into Europe.
Yeah.
A crazy thing.
I was in the Chinatown of Brooklyn.
I was filming a video with Kate and we like needed a cigarette for the video.
And so I was like, all right, I'll just go buy a pack.
And I'm walking down the street and like 75% of the people there were smoking cigs.
And every single time I asked them like, hey, do you know where I can buy them?
They would give me like the weirdest look and be like, I don't know.
I don't know. And I think they thought I was like some sort of NARC or a government agent trying to like bust their illegal cigarette ring. So no one would no one would tell me where to buy Sigs. I ended up having to walk like a mile to a gas station. But it's just because they all get their Sigs illegally and didn't want me to know. Yeah. They probably thought you're a cop. Yeah, I did probably look like a cop. I probably had a mustache back then too. How is the food in the UK?
Did you have an English brecky?
No.
Well, there was the option to I didn't.
We only ate breakfast, I think, two of the days,
and I just got like hash browns and a croissant or something.
Had fish and chips, obviously, got to do that.
But other than that, didn't have a ton of, like, British food.
I had some of the best pizza I've ever had.
My girlfriend's sister lived in London for a little bit, and she told me this place to go, and it was outstanding.
I guess it's like real, because a ton of immigrants lived there, so it's like, you can probably get better Italian food in London than you can most places in the world.
The Indian food there is so I heard somebody else told me, we didn't end up going because we didn't have time, but there was, I want to say it was, it was some Middle Eastern, it might have been an Iranian restaurant or something.
he was like this is the best meal I've ever had yeah no I think I mean I've heard from people who have
traveled to like London and India they're like yeah the Indian food and London takes the cake
yeah I mean it makes sense though um but yeah didn't have a ton of like traditional British food
I guess is there a ton I mean the English brecky is huge that's when you get the white and
black pudding which is kind of like a sausage the black
black pudding is like a blood sausage.
The white pudding, I don't even really know, but it's good.
Beans for breakfast.
Yeah, they did have that at the hotel.
Absolutely not.
Beans for breakfast is good.
It is good.
The one thing you won't find outside of the U.S., which, like, the only culture shock
I suffered living in Europe was not a lot of AC in the summer.
I don't know if that's the case in London or just mainland Europe.
But, yeah, lacking in air conditioning and,
no breakfast sandwiches like a bacon cheese might be like the most american sandwich out there
but like you can't get that in like on the west coast like that's only a northeast thing
well you can get a bacon egg and cheese on the west coast it's just not going to be like
a new york deli style bacon egg and cheese that we're used to on a roll and all that stuff
but i thought you were going to say um there's no ice anywhere yeah yeah yeah
I mean, if you want ice, best of luck, get on the plane back to New York because they do not have ice.
No.
And I love ice.
Like when I go somewhere and I get a drink, I get extra ice.
I sacrifice drink to get more ice because I like to chew on the ice.
Yeah, I love ice too.
And living in China, not only did they not have ice, but they serve all their water warm.
Oh, absolutely not.
Oh, Jesus.
Yeah, I think they like think it helps with the digestion if you're eating.
eating a lot of oily food, so they just, they think cold water is bad for your health.
They think if you drink too much cold water, you're going to get a cold.
And that warm water, yeah, that's what they believe.
And that warm water keeps you healthy.
I do recall hearing somewhere, this could be completely inaccurate, but something to the
effect of if you drink, it's not bad for you to drink cold water.
But if you drink warm water, it's like already closer to the temperature that your body is.
So something about that helps something.
thing. I've heard that too.
Something like that.
It cools.
Your body tries to heat up the cold water in your stomach, which in turn heats up your
old body because it's doing all that work, you don't return to regular temperature faster.
Yes.
I think that's right.
Yeah.
And yeah, I'm not going to fact check it.
But yeah, no, that checks out to me.
One thing we should talk while we still have Billy here, because Big T was in London.
I don't know if he was following it, but the coup in Russia over the weekend.
Yeah, that was insane.
So I'm still looking into it because if you looked at a bunch of the videos, pictures coming out,
it all kind of seemed pretty staged like they had.
So basically Putin, Russia's military interests internationally are done not by the Russian military, but by a privatized military group called Wagner or Wagner that like when you hear about all those special forces operations in Africa and then you're like, why the hell are U.S. troops in Africa or in Syria or in a bunch of different places.
All the resources like lithium mines, oil fields in these disputed zones is basically
Wagner is trying to take them over so they can sell the oil to Russian oligarchs and just
back end basically because they're not fighting in Russian uniforms under the Russian flag.
They don't have to cooperate with the Geneva Convention.
They don't have to, you know, if they engage, yeah, if they engage with a.
certain force it means that they're you know uh it's not an act of war so if they accidentally
if they have wagner group do their dirty work then they have plausible deniability yeah and be like
oh well that wasn't us yeah so if they like accidentally engage with a nato country uh it won't
like cause article five to get pulled and the u.s has like world war three to happen but what is
nuts is this Wagner group, they actually engaged with the United States in Syria, this
convoy of Wagner personnel, we're trying to take over an oil field that was being held by
US-backed Syrian rebels. And the U.S. were like, don't come here, don't come here, or we're
going to light you the fuck up. And the U.S. air support, it was the first time, like, the Russian
military experienced the true might of, you know, the U.S., like the full, like the military
industrial complex, we just like dumped like millions of dollars of bombs on them and just lit them
up in Wagner's like, holy shit, like, which, which goes to show how far behind the Russian military
is compared to the U.S. military. But so the guy who runs Wagner, this basically super villain
group. And this guy looks like a super villain was actually.
just Putin's, like, favorite chef of a restaurant he used to go to.
Yeah.
So, yeah, he was actually, he was in jail in the 1980s.
And then in the 1990s, he started a hot dog stand.
And I assume that hot dog stand did pretty well because he turned that into just
running a bunch of restaurants in Russia.
And then, like, I think he became friends of Putin.
Yeah, because maybe Putin loved that restaurant.
At some point, Putin granted him rights to, like, start casinos.
in St. Petersburg, so he was like running all the casinos in St. Petersburg probably made a lot of money
off of that. And then I don't know what prompted him to just like leave the restaurant business
start a private army. It would be like if Papa John just suddenly became this, you know,
warlord for Blackwater. That'd be sick. I mean, it's not that far off. He's a big ego guy.
like face on the TV
Papa John
returns with a vengeance
Who would be the best
restaurateur in this country
that we could get
to start
a paramilitary organization
I think Papa John's up there
trying to think who else
I think
Ronald McDonald
Colonel Sanders
Grimmis
I would join Grimmis's army
Colonel Sanders
Colonel Sanders
The colonel as well.
Have you guys ever met the CEO of Raising Keynes?
I know he's a big barstool fan.
Yeah.
I've never met him in person,
so I don't know how well he would do running an army.
It's got to be somebody like Raising Keynes isn't in the whole country, though.
Like it's got to be somebody with big support.
Raising Keynes has huge support, particularly from myself.
I think the one here's opening this week.
Yeah.
Yeah. But, like, it's got to be a national, like, name, high name recognition.
Could get people behind him.
Guy Fierry.
Absolutely. That's a good poll.
There we go.
That's a good poll.
That's a good poll.
That's napalm, baby.
The Flavortown Army.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm in.
Yeah.
But anyway, so back to what happened in Russia, the Wagner group is basically doing
a lot of the fighting because they don't have to train like they're literally pulling people
out of prisons and just sending them to the front lines to be can fodder yeah apparently they have
like 40,000 convicts fighting on the front lines in ukraine that's insane yeah they're just
pulling them right after like right out under uh from the prisons and send them to front lines
but anyway because but wagner's been getting totally shelled by uh you know all the
money we're sending to Ukraine is just totally decimating Wagner. But Wagner recently lied
and said that they were beefing with Russia and like that Putin wasn't sending ammunition
or supplies. So like they weren't able to do their job. But during that time, they ended up
taking this city called Bakhmut, which, you know, was strategically not that significant,
but they were sort of using the derision between Wagner and Putin as like a diversion to take Bakhmut,
because they ended up taking it.
Subsequently, now we're having this Wagner turn around and start marching towards Moscow.
And what ended up happening was they took over the southern district of, I think Rostov.
I'm actually not sure of this specific, but basically of this.
state they were in, and a lot of the fighting was taking place, the Wagner group took over
their main sort of outpost there. And like the head of the southern army, which has been doing
a lot of fighting in Ukraine, sort of met with him, they surrounded him, and then they started
marching to Moscow. But if you look at the videos, like it was a coup, but there wasn't any
sort of fighting, actual infighting. There was just a lot of troop movement. It kind of looked like
a lot of photo ops because they literally just park tanks in the middle of town and like there's a
bunch of like if you see the videos out of Russia there's a bunch of just Russian like civilians
running around like tick talking with the Wagner group in the background I think there's only
one instance of gunshot being fired but they're saying that Wagner shot down a bunch of the
bunch of Russian helicopters but you know this could be a whole distraction to like keep everybody
confused while, you know, Wagner is able to move their troops to different parts of the country
under the guise of it being a coup and then doing a sort of pincer movement on a lot of the
Ukrainian forces. So it's over. Yeah, I know he claimed like one of the reasons for the coup
was that like the Wagner group was bombed by the Russians. Like he was like, they just bombed
our location. What the hell? And he already had been complaining that like Putin wasn't sending him
enough ammo and supplies for weeks and then he was like this is the last straw you just
like bombed our position we're heading to moscow um and yeah i mean i was i was kind of getting
excited over the weekend i was like oh shit like this is about to go down and then two hours
later he was like nope he called it off he called it off and like i didn't think you would
be able to call that off because after you have like revolted against
Putin, if you just call it off, it's like, all right, well, Putin is now going to have you killed somehow.
Well, that's why I think it's fake, that they're just doing it from what I've been reading.
But there, you know, there was 6.2 billion that apparently went missing the Pentagon.
Don't know where that went and they sent it to Ukraine.
So there is the alternate theory that they've been trying to bribe Wagner to turn on Russia and like take Putin out of power.
And Wagner may have taken the money just to help supply their own fight and be like, hey, Putin, I'm about to get a free $6 billion from the United States.
All we got to do is fake, like, fight.
And then we can use that money to fight the Ukrainians.
So that's also a possibility.
Or we did compromise Wagner Group and paid him off and got him to go, March to Moscow, and there is serious derision.
And, you know, it's the best idea.
Now, Wagner is just full of Nazis.
Like, there's huge neo-Nazi gangs, yeah.
The Wagner chief is actually Jewish.
Like, I think his whole father's side of the family is Jewish, which is wild when I was, like, reading up.
And I was like, yeah, they're also known to be neo-Nazis.
It's so, it makes, like, it's so weird because they're also saying the reason they're fighting the Ukrainians is because you
craneshold Nazis.
So it's like Spider-Man meme, a bunch of Nazis pointing at other Nazis being like, hey, like, Wagner is also, it's named after Hitler's favorite musician.
Yeah.
Yeah, composer, which is just like, and I, like, with the history of Russia and World War II, you'd think that like Russians would hate all sorts of Nazis and they do for, that's why they're getting a lot of national support.
to go fight the Ukrainians because
they're saying they're Nazis,
but there's actual neo-Nazis in those groups.
Yeah, and then the Ukrainian president is Jewish.
So it's just so confusing.
There's just like a bunch of, yeah,
you can pretty much explain the whole war
with just that one Spider-Man meme
of just two neo-Nazis.
Like, I don't know.
It seems like both sides have like,
I think the Russian side and the Ukrainian side have like some divisions that have been like known
to be neo-Nazis in the past.
The bulk of the Ukrainian forces just want to keep Ukraine, Ukraine and free their country.
But they do have some extremist groups that have been, you know, they've been using them to fight
the Russians and like they're like deterrent.
Like, hey, like you think us Ukrainians are your pussy, you can just come into our our lands.
check out these dudes. Check out these guard dogs on a leash. Yeah. But the thing is so like when he
turned around to go to Moscow and his excuse was I don't want to spill any Russian blood. Like there
is that side where he's like he doesn't want to kill any Russians. Like yeah. That's fair. I mean,
I've also heard the conspiracy that maybe the coup is just done to see which people would side with
the Wagner group. So like him and Putin, he was like, I'm going to do this. And then you'll
see all the people that turn on you and join our cause. And then you know that they're not
loyal and you can weed them out. Yeah. I think there is, there are strategic advantages you
could get by staging this coup. Like for Putin. Like so. But yeah, I mean, where it stands now is
they, they, they called off the coup and they've agreed to all go to Belarus.
so now i just think like wagner group they have like they've all been told or they've been
forced to go to belarus and the belarusian dictator he's the one that's kind of like
helping like conduct the negotiations the craziest thing about the belarusian president was
during the beginning of the war they took that he had a whole presentation that revealed
the whole Russian battle plan
and that once they were to take Ukraine
they're going to go into Moldova, which is wild.
But that, like, they have
bigger plans after Ukraine.
Yeah. Moldova
would probably be the next
country to go.
I don't know if, I don't know if
Moldova would get as much
global support as Ukraine.
I mean, I think it would
just be like, it's little
Ukraine.
Like it would get
Yeah, I don't think Moldova's NATO though
No, they aren't
Fucking Moldova
I got to go there
That's high on the bucket list for sure
Dude, I really want to go to Prague
All Budapest
That would be some sick places to travel
Yeah
Have you ever been to Prague?
No, I haven't
I've heard incredible things
do you want to go to Prague
Yes I'm in
Let's just try to figure out how we can make a content
Because I think it would be filled with content
We'll go to Prague on our way to the border
Of Ukraine
Yeah
And we'll see what we can do to help
Or maybe we'll go from Prague to Moldova
But yeah
I mean it's
Belarus is kind of just like Russia's puppet
And that because like Putin's the one who's helping like their president stay in power. So,
you know, he has no choice but to side with them if he wants to remain the leader of the country.
Yeah. I mean, he's a big like I think, I don't think they have their troops in Ukraine. But I think
Belarus has like like a bunch like they're basically ready to invade Ukraine as well.
how's uh how's um uh your your driver from afghanistan uh from tijik i mean um so jamaal he was my
yeah yeah he was my tour guide while he was there and um while i was in tajikistan and i guess over
covid there were no tourists coming to tajikistan or at least even less tourists than there normally are
So he couldn't find a job and took a job in Russia because Russia, like, sends Tajikistan a bunch of money.
And then in exchange for, like, Tajikistan always siding with Russian political viewpoints.
But so he worked in Russia for maybe a year or two years over the pandemic.
And while he was there, they give you Russian citizenship.
and then he moved back to Tajikistan and now I guess just Russia is running low on troops
and so they're going to just start recruiting central Asians who have Russian passports
and so he hit me up and he was like dude I don't want to fight in this war I don't care about
Ukraine like you got to get me to the U.S.
And so I started like looking up how to get him asylum and I mean I don't like he could
apply. I don't know if he would get it. The only way to get asylum is you have to prove
that if you're not granted asylum, you'll face like serious repercussions back in your home
country, which he like he might actually face because I was telling him, oh, let's start you a
go fund, like a go fund me will raise a lot of money to bring you over here. And he was like,
don't do that. It can't be public. Because if the Tajik government finds out that I,
I'm anti-war, I could be put in jail.
Jesus.
Yeah.
It's scary.
Those are the types of, I mean, thank God I was born in the United States of America because
thank God, you know.
Yeah.
And especially because I assume they would throw all those like central Asians that they
recruit straight to the front line.
And you have like no idea why you're fighting this war.
Yeah.
So I think the Russia's historically had the one step backward, you get shot policy.
Yeah, I know they had that in World War II.
Yeah.
And I think that's basically what the Russian forces did to Wagner, because Wagner may have strategically retreated and gotten hit.
And they said they just lit them up.
Ooh.
Oh, yeah.
So it turns out Prague is not near Moldova at all.
but yeah so I don't I was kind of but the thing is say if the coup was successful and like
Wagner group took out Putin it's like that wouldn't really help the situation in Ukraine at
all because they would just still keep fighting Ukraine but now with Wagner group kind of
in charge of the whole country and I don't know if the the Wagner leadership is much better
than Putin yeah I mean actually might be worse like it actually might be you know
like they might actually start doing some serious evil shit not that they haven't already but
i mean at least Putin there was a moment during the coup where nuclear weapons that were
under under command of the southern military district whichever they took over so wagner could
have nuked russia like there could have been nukes involved
in the Civil War.
I mean, do you think does Wagner have their hands on nukes?
I mean, if they took over the area that they said they did.
Yeah.
That's, I mean, it's, yeah.
I mean, imagine if those guys got in charge of nukes.
Yeah, I mean, I don't feel like anyone's going to.
I feel like they are not dumb enough to use nukes.
I mean, a Russia without Putin, I mean, like.
There's so many, like if Putin gets taken out as the head of Russia,
I don't think we could as easily install a type of government that's sympathetic
to Western ideals because like Russia is still always going to be strongman politics.
Always has been.
Did you guys know that Russia was founded by Vikings?
The Rus.
The Rus. Yeah.
They were like Vikings from Sweden.
and they would just take the rivers,
they would just work their way down these rivers
that start kind of like,
they were exploring from Sweden,
and then they found rivers that eventually go all the way down
to the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea
and just settled there.
And they were trading with Constantinople and everything like that.
That's how they became like the,
the Russian
the Russian emperors
in Constantinople
the Byzantines
would use the
Vikings as their
elite guard
they were called the
Varyngian Guard
because they were just known
to be such badass fighters
and then like
there was always like
a lot of Slavs in that area too
and they just became like
the leaders of the Slavs there
but that's always blown my mind
did you ever see the Northman
yeah
yes I did
that scene of them
raiding those Russian villages
and like going berserker mode
was so cool
like 10 out of 10
cinema
and the theory that when they would go
berser mode is that they were like
using shrooms and stuff for that
yeah or drinking
alcohol that had
certain types of psychedelic properties
that's wild
yeah so the ruse and they were the ruse were in ukraine and russia
i think their capital was in ukraine um
and that's kind of why like russia's fighting the war because they're like
oh historically ukraine was always part of russia like we need to unite the two
but ukraine wants nothing to do with that well you know it's really
cool uh usik uhlexander usik who's a ukrainian boxer who who i think tyson fear he's ducking right now
because tyson knows that he'll he might be out of his prime and that ucic could ruin his
undefeated streak but usik uh he the way he has his hair cut it's called it's called an osledettes
is like an homage to
Ukrainian Viking-type warrior culture
and they all had that haircut
to sort of represent that Ukrainian
has a differing national identity to Russia
because they are the Rusks were different
to the Cossacks
which is who
like the Ukrainian warriors
the Cossacks were the Ukrainian warriors
yeah
and they would have those
Oslo dead haircut which is
pretty freaking awesome. I mean, yeah, we could do a, I mean, we could talk about just the history of
Russia for a full, full episode. I don't know if I'm factually informed enough to do that now.
But I mean, it is wild to look how they just started with like that small, small area closer
like to Moscow and Ukraine. And then they pretty much, how we had the manifest destiny where we were like,
we're just going to keep on conquering lands until we reach the Pacific and have like a
bi-coastal country.
They sort of did that same thing with Siberia.
And they just, they just like slowly using the Cossacks and stuff, they just like slowly
colonized land until they've reached the Pacific as well.
So I mean, but like a lot of those lands weren't like, weren't inhabited.
So, like, I think there's huge stretches until you reach, like, the Korea area that, like, weren't, that no one was there.
It's just tigers.
Yeah, and just, like, maybe some small tribes and stuff.
Yeah.
I mean, it's fucking huge, but not livable.
Like, a lot of that land is not really livable.
But with global warming, you know, as the country heats up, maybe Russia will be fucking,
they'll have a lot more land to work with.
That's what we were talking about like the Arctic Ocean
is going to be a lot more navigable
and then they can use that.
All right, we can pivot from Wagner talk.
That was talking to Wagner.
Yeah.
That was talking private armies.
Wagner Group, not the largest private army in the world.
I think that's Blackwater, right?
They've renamed.
They've renamed themselves several times
because there was like
an incident in Iraq
that got a lot of bad press
I think they literally just lit up
a whole town square
Is Coney still going strong?
Coney has not been caught
That's all I know
I don't know if he's going strong
Well because the rumor for
Those of a certain age
We'll remember Coney 2012
Oh of course
When kids were going around middle schools
With petitions
To stop Joseph Coney
I actually got in huge trouble
because I called a girl
stupid, we'll go with
for walking around Mount Juliet
Middle School with a petition to stop Joseph
Coney. But the rumor
for a while was that he was killed. Then it was that he got
COVID and died. I think it's just any excuse people have
to rebring up Coney. They're like, oh, this is going to get
1,700 retweets. Yeah, I mean, I think the main thing that
derailed the whole Coney movement is that the guy who
made that vid, he got arrested for
masturbating in public in San Diego.
Really?
Yeah.
This was like a month afterwards and he was, they have a video of them and he's just,
he's on the streets of San Diego naked, ranting and raving.
And I guess at one point he just started jacking off.
And he was, everyone was like, dude, are you okay?
Like, do we need to check you into a mental institution?
And he was like, well, I just like, I didn't expect Coney 2012 to blow up that big.
It's been like a lot of stress, a lot of pressure.
and he just like snapped.
Did we interview that guy?
We beat this show?
I think I might have either had a
I think I either had a dream that I interviewed this guy.
That's probably what happened.
Yeah, but I was like, how did you end up?
What's the steps between like how do you get from there to there?
Because I don't understand how you can end up run around.
Yeah, it's wild.
I mean, I also, I don't want.
to like
guests or anything he's a he's very flamboyant he's like one of the most flamboyantly
straight guys out there um and there was i think someone like asked him on a show they're like
maybe you're having these outbursts because you're just like secretly in the closet
i don't know but i don't want to i don't want to infer on his private life
Blackwater's now known as Academy
And they're still going hard
And that's was founded by
By an American
Yeah
I think it's like the husband of
That of Trump's education secretary
Okay
But Blackwater
Are they so tied to the U.S.
What if they got a contract from another country?
Would they be allowed to fight for another country, seeing it's a private army?
I think that Blackwater only associates with the U.S. government and American corporations.
I don't think you could see someone like Wagner or they don't cross sides.
It's like sales teams, you know?
Yes.
You won't get as much contracts if you don't have brand loyalty.
okay but yeah dick davos american businessman i i want to say who oh wait no not dick davos
uh eric prince he's a former u.s navy seal and the founder blackwater he's married to
betsy david oh betsy davis is his sister who's the head of the education
Department for Trump.
Is it Betsy DeVos?
Yeah, but who cares?
DeVos?
And it's not like she's still ahead of that.
Yeah, no, she was under Trump.
That's just what was going on.
When Vivek Ramoswamy's president,
we're getting rid of the Department of Education.
If you guys listening at home have a chance,
search, watch Coney 2012 Invisible Invisible Children, the musical.
like the guy behind it, they made this music video that's a lot like glee or that show
high school musical. Please watch it. It's one of the most absurd things I have ever seen in my life.
You oversold it. Yeah. To be honest. Every day one mercenary from Academy costs the U.S.
state $1,200. In comparison, a soldier of the regular army only costs $150 to $190. So the U.S.
spends, so 90% of the academy profits come from the United States.
And as of 2005, oh, they have over a billion dollars in contracts with the U.S. government nowadays, which is insane.
Yeah, they were involved in weapons smuggling.
So there was an instance of, in Afghanistan, 500 Kalishnikov rifles and other weapons
disappeared from American warehouses of the military, and several employees of the companies
were charged with illegal arms trafficking.
So these guys are bad dudes.
speaking of private armies would the french foreign legion be considered a private army
we need to do an episode on that because they are some of the like there was a
u.s. soldier that went that that uh deserted from west point and fought in the french
foreign legion and he just they just got him back and he has to go to prison damn i actually
They scrub your whole life.
I met a dude from Los Angeles,
and he joined the French Foreign Legion for like three years.
So if we wanted to have him on the pod, I'm sure he would come on.
Oh, we absolutely need to do that for another, for an episode.
Yeah.
He ended up not seeing any combat.
I think he was just like he joined was in it for maybe two years.
And it was like, all right, I'm going to, I'm going to dip.
But yeah, it's wild.
You don't, you can be from any country in the world.
you can join and then they have they've fought in conflicts all over the world yeah they were mainly
associated with frances colonial project in africa uh is where a lot of them got sent yeah and i know
some nazis trying to just like hide and not get put on trial after the war just like joined the
french foreign legion they were kind of like like hey if you just join the french foreign legion and
fight us to help us fight wherever we need you to fight we'll kind of we'll forget about your
past did they get away with it um yeah but there's one insane story about a jewish guy when he was um
during the holocaust he witnessed one of his neighbors uh kill his parents um
and then after the war he was like where is that guy
found out that that dude had joined the French Foreign Legion
to avoid persecution, prosecution.
And so then that dude joined the French Foreign Legion.
They were both sent to Vietnam, found the guy who murdered his parents.
And they were both kind of like fighting together in Vietnam.
And they were sent out on a mission.
And at one point he like tapped the guy on the shoulder.
And he was like, do you remember who I am?
And then the guy was like, no, he was like, I have no idea who you are.
And he was like, this is my name.
You killed my father and then shot him in the head.
That's a father of the bride, princess bride.
Princess bride.
Oh, and he was like, I am.
Whatever, you killed my father prepared to die.
That's the princess bride, right?
I've never seen it.
I think that is the princess bride.
I haven't seen it.
But that, what I just said is a true story.
You can look it up.
I think he was Romanian.
I'm not sure, but it's the most insane.
Like, I'm surprised they haven't turned it into a movie
because he literally, like, seeking vengeance,
joined the French World Legion, went all the way to Vietnam,
found this guy, and killed him.
And I think after, at first he was, like, charged and put in jail,
but then once he explained the whole backstory,
they're like, all right, we're not going to keep you in jail.
Yeah, we definitely just do an upset on them.
But apparently you can apply.
for French citizenship
only three years
after serving it
but if you get injured
during battle
you get a provision
known as
French by spilled blood
and you just
immediately a citizen
if you die
fighting for France
that seems fair enough
yeah
die or get
injured
that seems perfectly
reasonable to me
I feel that anyone
would want to be
a French citizen
but
now does the u.s military i feel like we have enough troops right like is there anything like
do you think we're running low on troops would they ever have to like start to offer something
like that to convince more people to join the military be like join the military
and get a green card i think that is a rule i don't i think there are i mean we kind of do
offer incentives like yeah we we have get a great pension pay for your college yeah and that's
honestly not a bad deal well especially because we're not fighting in any wars right now where they're
going to like be sending you to the front lines so we have about 13 okay so China has two million
active military personnel uh the United States has
1,300,000, but if we needed to, we could activate a lot more reserves, who would go first before we got drafted.
But our military expenditure is so large that, like, China doesn't have a nuclear sub.
I was talking to a sub guy.
Like, we are in a lot better spot than we think we are.
I think we think we're in a pretty good spot.
Well, no, everyone's, like, talking about China, but, like, the U.S. still has technology light years ahead.
Yeah.
When I'm worried about China, I'll let you know.
Yeah, we have how many aircraft carriers compared to the rest of the world?
I think no one else has nuclear carriers like we do.
Yeah, but just, I know, like, China right now is building their, like, second or third aircraft carrier.
and we have like 10 or 12 I don't know yeah um yeah I'm surprised China doesn't have
nuclear subs I would go in a nuclear sub over the ocean gate sub turns out a lot of people
bug out on nuclear subs I think people just bug out in subs yeah a submarine is not a place
I would want to be I know before this like whole thing went down I was like they should have a
a party sub you know you rent it out it can fit like 30 of your friends you go underwater and just
like rage for four hours and then and then come up but now i'm thinking that that would not be fun
could probably get a pretty sweet deal right now yeah but that would be like you might as well just
do a party boat like you're not can be able to see shit in the sub a glass a clear bottom boat
yeah that that would be that would suffice i'm kind of even out on boats now did you see that um
storm on the cruise ship?
No.
Is this a recent one?
Yeah, like yesterday or the day before,
it's a cruise and they're just in the middle of a violent storm
that's throwing chairs everywhere and all the...
I think I'm good on boats.
I don't need to be in a submarine.
I don't need to be on a boat.
I mean, I love boats.
You're just on planes.
I'm kind of out on cruise ships.
Have you ever been on a cruise?
Yeah, recently.
Christmas. Yeah, I feel like you're a cruise guy. I do enjoy a cruise, but I could, all the activities
you do on a cruise, like you could just go to like an all-inclusive and do that on land.
Yeah. And probably have a better time. I mean, I'm a big boat guy. I'm not going to turn on boats.
Now, like a, like a pontoon boat, like out on the lake, sign me up. Okay. But I'm talking like
real time somebody else is driving the boat into deep deep waters yeah like when you're once you get
to a point on a boat where you can no longer see land yeah you know like i don't think i've ever been
trapped like on a boat in the middle of the storm that would obviously that would suck it's and it's crazy
how many boats back in the day used to sink when you're just when like when like all we had to get from
Europe to the U.S. was just boats.
There'd be like so many that just, oh, got caught in a storm, didn't make it.
And then during World War II, when they just, the, the German U boats were all over the place.
And you, like, they were taken down a bunch of ships trying to make it from, like, the U.S. to Europe to bring over supplies.
You just had no idea when you would just randomly get torpedoed.
I was thinking of the Lusitania
Yeah
The Lusitania and then there was the USS
Indianapolis
Did that happen?
Yeah
Did that happen in the Atlantic?
Yeah
Yeah
All got eaten by sharks
Oh no wait wait
I don't think that one happens
And
Maybe that was
Wait that was
I think that was in the South Pacific
the USS Indianapolis
Yeah that's I mean it's
It's terrifying just knowing like oh shit
There could be U-boats around us right now
We could get torpedoed
Yeah it actually got torpedoed by a Japanese submarine
Okay
Only 316 of 1200
So one in four
Only survives in the rest are eaten by sharks
Yeah, not a great way to go.
Jeez.
But, I mean, maybe now is the time to book a submarine adventure because I was wondering, like, this was all before the Ocean Gate disaster, but like they do have some submarine companies, Atlantis submarine Barbados tours.
They offer tours on their 60 foot long, 80 ton, 48 passengers submarine in Barbados.
and you go down to depths of 130 feet.
So, you know, it's nothing crazy, like 2,000, whatever feet they were.
That's all you can go.
Yeah.
Like, I was 70 feet underwater at one point in my life, and that's as deep as I needed to go.
Sort of get down to the gist of it.
You're not going to be able to see.
And they sell tours for only $100.
I can't imagine the prices are going to get any lower.
Yeah.
if it costs 100 now that is their best price it was actually billy remember when we were trying to
trying to find the bones and there was that really famous YouTuber who was there trying to find
the bones too um like scuba jake or something i think his youtube channel is dally md he was uh invited
on the ocean gate sub like a year or two ago and actually like went on it for a ride
because they were just like this guy has tons of you.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Did you hear what Don was going to use the sub to look for the bones?
Yeah.
We were almost on that sub done me.
So, I mean, I do feel like it could probably manage 80 feet, I would hope.
Jeez.
I can't believe like he was trying to push it when like everyone was like, no,
this sub is like not going to fare well that deep.
And he was just like, nope, I got.
this.
I feel like that's one of the things that you should bite the bullet and spend the money.
Yeah.
You're going to get what you pay for.
But those guys were spending the money.
It was just that he was the only one like willing to offer tours like that.
Well, but building the sub, didn't they get the carbon fiber from like Boeing at a big
discount because Boeing was like, we can't use this on planes.
It's not good.
Yeah.
He cut a lot of corners.
Everyone was saying like you can't use carbon fiber.
he was like no if I use carbon fiber it will be way cheaper yeah like you should you should invest
into your submarine that's going 15,000 feet or whatever he was trying to turn into a profitable
business and he's like you know save money on the sub it could have been really profitable
if you spent the money up front if charging 250 grand ahead there were what five people on it
so you're making over a million dollars every time you do this say you do it 50 times a year
You're telling me that he couldn't make however much it would have cost to build that back in a few years?
Yeah, I don't think he'd be able to go 50 times a year, but yeah, no, no, you're right.
What do they say, you know, pay, pay cheap, pay twice or whatever.
What's that saying?
Something like that.
Yeah, I don't know.
2,000 fucking feet deep.
Oh, this company offers one thousand.
thousand foot deep for five hundred bucks
get to go down for
an hour and a half
you're a fairly adventurous guy would you still get
on a submarine from some like
for profit venture
um after
after this it depends
what I'd be doing in the sub I mean that
sub just did not look comfortable
at all I don't
know I just always thought
like have you guys ever read
20,000 leagues under the sea
with uh yeah I think I was supposed
to at some point and didn't, but
Captain Nemo just had this
luxurious sub. He would
go all over the world. I just
assume that in 2023, we
would have some like, eccentric
billionaire who just has his own
sick private sub that he just
takes all over the world and you never
know where he's at. Sort of like
I mean, isn't that James Cameron?
Not like eccentric, but he has
like all of the submarines that can go that
deep. Yeah. I mean, his
sub looks way nicer than
The Ocean Gate one.
Have you seen the video of him coming back from being on his submarine on 9-11?
No.
That went re-viral after all this.
He and some people, like his buddies, I guess, were down in the submarine, I believe at the Titanic, and they came back up.
And everybody was like, hey, you're not going to fucking believe this.
Yeah.
Well, I guess that was a safe place to be on 9-11.
I guess so.
Yeah.
As far away from a plane as.
humanly possible
but yeah I mean I'm not rushing
to get on a sub
yeah I don't I don't think I would
I would much rather do that space balloon
that Aryan's going to do
yeah we discussed
of the two space infinitely better
than going in the submarine
I personally wouldn't do either
but space is a thousand times better
yeah but it's just as scary
Oh, agreed. I wouldn't do it. But, like, everybody that's been to space is, like, it changes your life, like, completely changes your perspective. You go in a submarine, you can just see black.
Yeah. I don't know. I guess they, like, what does James Cameron do when he's down there? You could check out, like, crazy new species of fish and stuff. They've got some crazy fish down there.
Yeah, they got a snail fish that was the deepest fish ever found.
And it looks pretty disgusting.
All the creatures down there aren't that chill looking.
Yeah.
So I don't know why we want to go look for them.
It's the same like principles behind why snorkeling can be like that's just as fun as scuba diving because, you know, when you're, you're snorkeling from up top, that's where all the light is.
You can see most fish from there, you know, when you go down 40 feet, it's just going to be slightly darker.
No real reason to push it.
But, yeah, I don't know.
I'm not, that's a submarine ride is not next on my list.
But if you asked me beforehand, it'd probably be like, yes.
That's 100% what I'm trying to do.
Well, I just have that opportunity.
Yeah.
I think, I think this is a good time to maybe wrap up, sync this episode,
and send everyone on their merry way.
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Oh, we can ask one thing.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I asked Billy, how was Zach Brian?
Oh, sick.
It was awesome.
If you didn't see Billy, Billy was on stage.
I didn't see that.
My sister, like, texted me, and she was like, is that Billy football, like, with
Brian and Josh?
I was like, it sure is.
So is Zach?
Is Zach Brian, like a big barstool fan?
No, I just, I'm.
met him so like three years ago i was a fan of his music and he he got a show canceled for
covid uh and he played a pop-up show at a at a basement bar on the lower east side so i saw it
and i was like shit i never i never do this like i never try to pull rank but like i d-end
it was like yo dude huge fan coming to the cons uh coming to your pop-up show tonight like hopefully
I can get in love your stuff and then I went I was able to get in and then he was checking his
phone after and he's like oh shit and they're like we met set us up and since then he is gone he's
gone so huge and he he has not forgotten about that podcast three met in the basement of a bar
so let's go so it's dope he's a great dude and his whole like I wish I was touring with them like
his whole band, his roadies, all the dudes that work with him are like some of the, like,
it must be such an awesome time role with those highway boys, as they call themselves.
Oh, and one more thing, Billy, there are rumors circulating that you might not be an ally.
Okay, I can explain that. I didn't make the Pride parade on Sunday.
I can explain it's actually basically an engagement occurred
and I had to end up organizing an engagement party on Sunday
I'm not even talking about that
I'm saying when we went to Pat and Joey's pride party at a bar
me and you went together and then I remember you said to me
oh I thought this was an open bar and I was like no apparently
it's not and like five minutes later you were nowhere to be found well to be fair that he would have
done that anywhere yes yes true and billy thought he was getting free alcohol and then that turned out
not to be the case yeah i was like these are expensive beers no i was i was totally a pride last
year total ally we were together a pride last year yeah okay yeah i'm i i had i something came up
i should have texted said i wasn't coming i didn't think i would have
been missed.
Okay.
Well, how was it?
Was the bus sick?
It was bumping.
It was.
The three of us were there.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was very fun.
Plus I had to work that night, so.
It's okay.
You're forgiven.
You have regained your ally status.
Yeah.
It is a little bit.
Celebrating heterosexuality on pride may have been not the best ally
movement of me.
It's, it's, it's,
Okay. I think like pride's all about love.
You can, you can throw in some heterosexual love too.
It counts.
Sweet. Well.
All right. Yeah. Sweet.
I will see you guys soon.
Yeah. We definitely got to do some more extra doses before everyone moves to Chicago just to keep the juices alone.
Yeah. Let me ask that, that guy.
who is in the French Foreign Legion
if he'll come on. Yeah, we're 100%.
RFK Jr. is also
jacked. Oh,
yes. He is.
He is jacked.
People are also mad at him because they're being
like he's kind of siding with
Russia. He's not siding with
Russia, but he's just like, oh, the U.S.
has done a lot to provoke
Russia over the years.
Yeah.
I mean,
Russia should never invade Ukraine.
100%
but we kind of like
we're fucking around
in the backyard
we have them surrounded
all right
well that's a wrap
any final thoughts
big tea or anything
you're teed off about
no
good talk
covered a lot of topics today
yeah
it's good good show
like will you have any plans
to get back to the UK or Europe
Have you caught the travel buck?
Eventually.
Yeah, at some point.
Not any time, like, it's not pressing.
But like I would like to go to Italy at some point.
We discussed this earlier.
I'll never go to France under any circumstances.
No, you've got to go to France.
Italy.
Greece would be cool.
Yeah, a few other places.
But it was good to, that was a good, five days in London, good starter trip.
Yeah, that was probably a best.
I took White Sox Dave out of the country for his first time,
and that was Santo Domingo in the DR.
A little bit different vibe.
Very different vibe.
But he experienced it all.
He got food poisoning.
I got pickpocketed.
So he went through like the full ringer of travel experiences in a short amount of time.
But yeah, I don't think that's the vibe you were going for.
Yeah, no.
It was a good trip, though.
All right, cool.
That's a wrap.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Oh.
We're going to be able to be.
