Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - What's The Smelliest City In America? | NANODOSE

Episode Date: March 21, 2023

On today's Nanodose the guys discuss urban planning & walkable cities, the smelliest cities in America, Tennessee basketball and we end the show with a debate on politics, CNN and Trump.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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Okay, I'm getting into it. I've been into insurrection for a while, but. I'm going to get a little riled up. Actually, might be when I might do some tomorrow. I'm thinking about doing, actually, when this airs, there might, I might be at a government building. I'm sure he will be. Today's episode is brought to you by Three Chee.

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All right We're back it is it's Tuesday in it It's Tuesday It is March 21st It is the spring equinox Hey guys so we kind of got into a roundabout conversation About Trump, CNN politics for about 40 minutes So what we did is we threw it on the back end of the episode

And we're just getting right into the Tennessee Minute And some awesome conversations about urban planning And if you want to hear us argue basically about the same thing and kind of disagree but agree with each other at the same times. Just sits on the back of the end of the episode. Big Tee. What's up?

Let's do the Tennessee Minute. Let's do it. Tennessee Minutes. Tennessee advances. They beat the fuck out of Duke. Just bullied them. You guys are, you guys are dirty.

You guys are dirty team. Beat the hell out of them. Really dirty team. Literally and in the game. From the get-go. They were throwing elbows. No, this, this notion that is somehow arisen in the last 48 hours are like,

Tennessee's dirty. If anyone can find me, one supposed foul in the game that was not called, I'm willing to watch it. There was one. There was an elbow that got thrown by the same guy, I think. Why do we not want to be known as dirty? Fuck that. Be dirty. No, no. So we have one guy. So we have one guy. He's a seven foot Serbian and he's, he's a menace. He's a beast. But the play you're talking about was Olivia Cummo was coming down with a rebound and his elbow hit Kyle Filipowski in the face, which. No, no, the different one. There's a, there was another elbow that got thrown that I think they called a blocking foul on. They called it against the defense after he got elbowed.

Well, and if we want to talk about the officiating in a 13 point game, they called a fifth foul on Duke's leading score. There was no one else in the area. And then that was mysteriously changed to a foul on someone else so he could stay in the game. We'd have won by 20 if Jeremy Roach went out with eight minutes left or whatever it was. Yeah. That game was not close. I'm not, listen, I'm not, I'm not saying that it was, I'm not blaming the officials for getting anything wrong.

I'm not saying that it was rigged or anything. You said you were rooting for Duke, by the way. Well, I had a future on him. I was going to win $10,000 if they won the championship. Okay. Well, now you're not. But guess what? Guess what?

I also have a future on Tennessee. I love that. That I put in like two months ago before Ziegler got hurt. So I am rooting for Tennessee in their next matchup. The draw is there. You know, it's wild, Big T. We have an athletic director matchup. Brothers.

Brothers. The White Brothers. Yep. We've got Danny and Brian. athletic directors at Tennessee and F.A.U. And their third brother is Mike White, the basketball coach of Georgia. No way. And their dad was Duke's AD for like 30 years.

So this is like the shadow government of the NCAA is like the nepotism of Super Bowl. They're the first family of ADs for sure. Wow. This is like the mannings, except if they weren't good at sports and they were good at being around sports. Right. I'm excited playing here in New York City Are you gonna go? You're gonna go to the Mecca?

Of course It's gonna be fun You know how I knew that Duke was gonna lose Was because I like know some kids You go to Duke in the basketball team Like still has like the Duke basketball Persona they got all the accolades But they like haven't like earned it under Coach K

What I say? No, was it? I didn't I didn't interrupt it after But I think my face said it Alcalades. I rarely wince, but I have to look over at PFT to see if he's going to say something. Yeah. I was going to let Billy cook. Keep cooking, Billy. You're just preheating the oven. So anyway, they didn't play under Coach K and it's a totally different environment and it's a totally different workload so that Coach K kept him accountable, even though, you know, Duke basketball was such an esteemed group on campus. Shire's being soft. Coach K's team would have punched back. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying. So when they got out there,

you know, they've been, you know, being treated like Duke basketball, but they never trained like Duke basketball, which was Coach Kay's coaching philosophy. Duke went to him accountable. Yeah, low-key, probably. Yeah, Duke went woke. Then they lost the Tennessee guys. I mean, Tennessee was, they were punching. Punked them.

You did. Punching way above their weight class. You made Duke your prison bitch. Yeah, it was fun to watch. Did you think a Bama team, like imagine if Nick Saban retired, you think Bama would play like Bama, but they would get treated like Bama on campus every day and think they were Bama, but they're not Bama. So they ain't Duke. Exactly. Y'all aren't Duke. Exactly. Tennessee's supposed to be SEC. Saving holds them accountable. Mm-hmm. All right. I don't hate

that take, but Big T.M, I'm very happy for you. I was, uh, you know, I was really looking forward to potentially maybe playing Memphis or Kentucky here in New York. And it was, it was foolish of me to think those programs would make it to the sweet 16 a lot of good ball clubs not in the sweet 16 we're still in it that would have been so great if we got an elite eight Kentucky versus tennessee i almost like i almost wouldn't have been able to it would have either been the greatest win of all time or like i would the worst not the worst loss of all time like the worst day of all time yeah yeah i'm i'm you know what though you're in a great position you can say like i wish that we were going to no yeah no i do i wanted to play memphis in the sweet 16 and you want to

Kentucky in the elite eight yeah and it's it's a shame that they're not here uh I was looking forward to some good banter at the garden and instead it's it's just a bunch of nice midwesterners and uh old people from boca that are coming yeah and Jake wait who you guys play Florida Atlantic and then the other game is Kansas State Michigan State I am uh I would be worried about Kansas State if I were you they look they look good um I know well is my favorite player in the country so I refuse to engage in elite eight talk uh my focus is solely on FAU. If I were to engage in Elite 8 talk, I would say that Izzo in the Elite 8 and Isaac Houser is the perfect prototype white dude who scores 31 points and eliminates Tennessee. That

would potentially make me worrisome, but I'm not engaging in Elite 8 talk because my focus is squarely on the Sweet 16 in Florida Atlantic. It's smart. One game at a time. It's three, two game tournaments. We won the first one. I am rooting for Tennessee this round. Big time. Big time. FAU. Everyone had FAU is really nice. They stayed in our hotel that we were at in Columbus.

The team was there. Everyone around that team was awesome. Like where we got a chance to talk to some of the like athletic directors, SIDs, some of the players, some of the coaches wives, just all delightful people. I'm sure they're great people. They also, I mean, going to FAU, I said this in part my take, but it's, it's the campus that I would like to attend college at if I had to do it all over again.

It is right on the beach. Why would you not want to go to school on the beach? Florida Gulf Coast. Didn't they like build their own beach? Probably, yeah. FGCU, it's on like a man-made. They built their campus around a beach. Yeah.

Should you just all go back to school? Aaron, did you think, did you ever consider when you were coming out of high school? Like, why don't I just go play football at Hawaii? Oh, I tried. Like, well, no, I'll say, so I took it back. I wanted to take my visit there, right? Just to go visit Hawaii.

Yeah, I think I said this before, but they wouldn't let me because they knew I wasn't serious about going. And I don't know, I think coming out of high school, you're like looking back, I could have went anywhere in the NFL would have found me. But you don't know that coming out. Like, you don't know if you can play at the next level, right? Like, it's just you just don't know. You think you can. and so I would have definitely done probably something different

but you know it was good I wanted to prove myself in the SEC because I was like the powerhouse like playing ball and that's what I was more of an ego I actually had a whole conversation about Hawaii over the weekend and I didn't mention this part and part of my take but apparently there was a kid who went to Hawaii apparently

the suicide rate is very high at Hawaii because a lot of mainlanders go to Hawaii and they get very isolated from their family and friends. And it's a very insular population where if you're not from Hawaii, it's like hard to break into the sorority fraternity scene just like it is in the South. And like a lot of dudes have a terrible time there. Okay. Interesting. Because we were like having this exact same conversation and brought the stats out.

I bet that if I bet that the University of Hawaii has a protocol in place because they probably do get a lot of people that want to go there on their visits and they have to have a screening process. So I believe you have to be committed to even go on a visit now. I think that's the case. But yeah, they don't, you can't just take one of your five officials there. And plus football wise travels, the travel schedule is pretty hard. That's true. That's something that we also were talking about. Imagine how many miles they rack up though. I was with one of my buddies who was getting interest from Hawaii he was a big offensive tackle and we were talking about like why did you go to Hawaii and like like why didn't you take it like you could have gotten it and he was

saying like these are the reasons I heard this about this and uh the like flying on uh like having like six hour flights for travel is just brutal compared to like the other travel schedules of like a Patriot league school in the northeast yeah and being away from family yeah well I would still I would still take interest. I would show interest in Hawaii. Yeah. If I was a... FAU.

FAU would be so sick. FAU's top degree is bio. Really? I looked it up. I wanted... Because every school's got like their specialty degree. Your bio guys? Because it's like pre-med.

I would also take a visit at UNLV. Get a Vegas weekend in? Also, actually, I knew a quarterback who played at UNLV and he hated it. He then transferred back to a school around his hometown. He said that Vegas was also a terrible place. to play in because outside like your coaches don't want you on the strip yeah 100% you can't like and then you're the campus is like there but like everyone knows yeah you know what it's like a slippery there's no college type atmosphere well no there there is in Vegas if you go like a little

bit north of downtown there there's some places that you could go but i i i think maybe going to to college in Vegas would kind of suck because you don't have any money yeah that and what are you going to do in Vegas if you're poor just like Vegas might be the worst place to visit on vacation if you don't have a surplus of money to spend. Yeah. It's a hot take, man. Vegas kind of week.

Yeah? It's kind of weak. I don't know. Like, it's not like, I don't know. I've been like three times maybe. I don't go that much because like when I went there,

it was just, I don't know. It's like bar gambling, clubbing, desert. Not really a, I don't know. It's just me. Maybe I'm not a big gambler, though,

so. People in their, people in their early mid-20s, just in their 20s in general. You absolutely should love Las Vegas But once you get into your mid-30s You're gonna be like I I still like it But give me one night in Vegas

And get me the hell out Yeah weekend Not even though Yeah I don't think out with you two three nights Maybe two nights maybe Actually what I did two nights Catch a red eye The third night

And fly home and sleep on the plane That was huge move Because then you only have to spend two nights On hotels I mean that's your That's your 20 year old brain working Of course, you're going to have fun with that. It's sick walking.

It's one of the only places. Mad Dog's a big fan of walk, walkable urban planning. Oh, my God. Yeah, that tweet went crazy for whatever reason. Yeah. I don't know why. It was a good tweet. Really?

So describe the tweet. Yeah. Okay, so I was hanging out with all my guy friends on Saturday night. Sick brag. I have guy friends. And we were talking about Chicago, and I was talking about how, you know, like I like how I don't have to have a car here yada yada and then they got into this they were all really drunk and they all got into this like debate about walkable cities and urban planning and all

is that a guy thing that I just didn't know like because quiggs does it here too and a couple of my guy friends do it where um they do the YouTube queue of just urban planning and infrastructures of different cities in America um and then they just got into this heated debate about walkable cities and how America needs more, yada, yada, yada, and I tweeted it. And I have never had such spirited replies to one of my tweets. Like, I had 80 replies to this tweet about is walkable, is guys talking about walkable cities normal. And I had, like, dudes being like, oh, you just hang out with soyboys, like, oh, it's valid. And then the other side of that was like, that is my favorite thing to talk about with my guy friends.

I, we actually, there was a tweet before your tweet. like years ago that talked about how Americans love college so much because it's the only time like it's it was a European talking about how Americans love college so much because it's the only time their lives that they live in a walkable in a walkable place wherever all their amenities are walkable and that like in Europe that's like the norm and that's actually kind of what I love about Vegas is that you can just like walk you can like walk get a coffee like even though it's all Disneyland fake type structures like you're just walking having a good time like you can buy beers everywhere hell yeah i think i think people like to tweet because it's one of those things that you uh it's like

super dorky yeah talk about to admit but yeah i think i think when guys start like it's a it's a major dudes rock moment it was a we're being we're being nerdy as fuck together yeah but yeah walkable cities is walkable cities is shit i was i was the only girl with like six dudes and all of them were talking about how like louville i guess could have been like all of these I love how you pronounced Louisville I think that's how you said it yeah no yeah the drunker you sound when you pronounce Louisville that's the more correct

your mouth yeah it's more correct it is but like all of them are getting into this and then I had like urban I got on like urban planning Twitter like famous urban planners were then in my replies being like do you want me to send you my urban planning book let's have one of them on okay I was Gooch Mr. Gooch who is a friend of the program was there

and he was like so heated about this but then there were like urban planners being like do me send you my book about walkable cities in America and I was like who are how did you find this important it's like one of those things like like it's it's like a very meta way of understanding why you have a good time at like if you visit a city yeah well then they were talking about no offense area and they were ragging on Houston yeah about how awfully set up Houston is I've never been but they're like yeah you can't get anywhere around it i was like well aryan lives in houston but i was like also arian has a different um aryan stays in his house or goes to the golf course and he doesn't right i was like one arian doesn't live in like downtown houston also you have like maybe a different

tax bracket that can provide you a happier way of living than like other people in houston yeah um but yeah houston came up in debate um i would love to talk to an urban planner i almost minored it in college it's fascinating it really is because there's i'm sure there's so much stuff that goes into it that we have no idea about right like the vibes are low key no it's like a they're like a vibe planner you want to get down to like vibes and what makes the vibes good urban planning yeah yeah and then i think i think living here we don't think about it as much because everything we take for granted right and then they got into the whole like public transport debate and i was like well we live in a really great city for that as well so i think like i don't i mean i never think about it

but it was just like one of those moments. Was I in a dude's rock kind of movie? Yes, you were. Yeah. And I found out I was. Also, the United States being mostly built, the infrastructure being built after the automobile. That's what they were saying.

That's what they were all saying. That's like why we got screwed with like New York's good. Boston's good because they were all like revolutionary cities. Philadelphia, certain areas. But the invention of the automobile because everyone was like thinking the exact other way because driving was so novel and getting places so quickly. Like, LA sucks.

Let's make, yeah, like, let's be able to drive everywhere because that's, and that was what the vibe was. But then. But now people are looking at the trend of trying to do more walkable cities and being like, they're trying to take away our cars and our freedom. Right. But that's, but like if you just live in a city that's walkable, if you live in a town that's walkable,

it doesn't have to be a big city. If you live in any sort of town that's walkable, you're going to love it. It's way better. Now, I do like being able to drive places, but having all your shit that's close by and you can just walk to makes life so much easier. Then you don't have to pay for car insurance or car payment.

But you know why there's been such a change is because our lives have become so much more sedentary that we're sitting all the time. So back then, people would love, most of their work was more manual and they got more exercise just doing regular things. So on the weekend, people just wanted to chill and drive places, sit down.

Why have to walk everywhere. Yeah. I just got done at my job at the factory. Like I want to go get into my very affordable mass produced car. And drive to the diner and like go do-wop. Like I'll listen to do-wop with my fucking finned Cadillac after I got done at my union job that got me a house. and a pension and a pension

and like I can afford to have like a whole family at 23 like I worked hard for this shit I wanted to get my car pro union Billy yeah oh hell yeah it was a very funny funny moment I did not think that tweet would do what it did

yeah dudes love talking about walkable areas for sure some of those cities the early cities were they like were they horse friendly cities yeah so actually my grandmother's father was a truck driver during the time

when the transition from horse-drawn truckers to like mechanical big trucks and he was a very good horseman like he was very good with horses and his whole thing was like when the automobile started becoming more popular to do long distance trucking he would still go on long truck trips

to Montana to get horses to bring them back to New York to sell them for carriages for people to so like that whole transition is something that's also very interesting to me because horse-drawn horse-friendly cities were actually like

the urban planning for it was different so a lot of those parks you see in New York that are like very small and weird they were supposed to be where you tied up horses horse parking lots yeah and they could graze so in like in there was different Oh, I've got to talk to my grandma.

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no like this is so interesting so you know how brownstones in New York old brownstones I was just going to say that I was just going to say that yeah they there's there's like stairs it's because before the automobile there was so much horse manure and donkey manure on the streets

that it would pile up and then people would then collect it and sell it for manure and fertilizer but the smell was so bad that they made the cities more car friendly because it was considered so much cleaner than the horse-drawn alternatives where there was just piles of manure of like horse shit everywhere and it wouldn't get picked up. And that's also why, yeah, that's why the stairs on old brownstones are built that way.

So you could literally just climb up out of the manure and the manure wasn't right outside your door. Wow. Yeah. Fascinating. Urban planning to hikoo is like horse shit like in the, environment like where there's like rodeo and shit i don't hate that smell that's a weird yeah it doesn't seem dirty for some reason it's got a barn smell it kind of blends with the environment and i i just

don't hate it because my mom grew up on a farm and so my grandpa was a rancher and so we used to go visit him and stuff and we used to do rodeos and shit my cousin actually was like a national winter roper she used to rope cows and shit and uh so we i growing up i was around it a little bit I never hated the smell. You would think it's just a whole bunch of shit, but I just didn't hate it. You should be on Yellowstone. You really should. You drop the ball in that audition.

I mean, it's like the fourth time. I mean, if you know somebody, man, there you know. They're making new spinoffs. They are. They've got like seven spinoff. Yeah, I've watched all of them. I don't think I haven't made me to be committed to any. This is the only thing I'm committed to.

I appreciate that. I agree with you, Aaron. I think that the barn smell is a good one that a lot of people appreciate. you know what i don't like the worst smelling city in america this might be a hot take probably not bill you know what i'm going to say are you going to say we experienced amarillo yeah amarillo texas the whole thing smells like a barn not even a barn though like like really really dirty barn yeah because there's a lot of uh cattle cattle processing a lot of stockyards around yeah and the shit smell is overwhelming in amarillo texas i think i think that might have

to do with not a horse or cattle manure, but I think there's pigs. I think that's what it is. I think it's cows. Let me check it out. Amarillo. Yeah. If you've never been...

Great place, though. Yeah, we had a great time in Amarillo. But if you're from Amarillo, I think you probably get used to it. Yeah. I know, I hope somebody's listening to this. Oh, my God. It is like cattle.

Hereford, Texas, which is right next to Amarillo, more than one million head of cattle. cattle annually within its nearby feed yards. Wow. That's crazy. We're smelling city in America. The Hereford area produces one billion pounds of milk, 125 gallons of milk,

100 million pounds of milk. New York in a summer, this shit can get bad when the trash pile up. Yeah. It sounds like piss. Yeah, the hot trash, the piss, the human shit. New York City is a bad smelling city too.

But right now it's fine, though. San Francisco must smell terrible. because it's hotter or longer there I think you get a lot of wind coming in off the water in San Francisco so I'm sure certain parts smell pretty bad but for I've spent

not a lot of time there but I feel like it didn't overwhelm me yeah I don't think I've ever been what other some bad smelling cities Cleveland by the lake is not the greatest smell in the world

I'll bet I'll bang up there You know, I mean, you know when New York smells the worst? July. If, yeah, if there's a summer storm and they have to open up the sewers into the East River because of overflow, and then you have a hot day the next day. That's a bad day. And you're by the river. That's when it smells the worst because you have like New York City sewage in the river drying up on the side. Yeah.

It smells terrible. Harrisonburg, Virginia on a rainy day And people that go to JMU Or live in the Shenandoah Valley It's a niche audience You guys know what I'm talking about It smells like dog food Why?

I've heard that there's a chicken processing plant That's close by They gives a dog food smell I've heard also there's a dog food factory close by That seems like an urban legend Because it does smell like exactly like dog food Oh, Randall's Island in New York There's a sewage treatment plant there

yeah that smells really bad so like if you ever been to like gov ball yeah there sewage treatment plants in general being around them sucks yeah agreed smell terrible my first apartment in houston was was right by a sewage plant that's the stuff you can't find on the on the apartments dot com no they don't tell you that yeah another niche one colerine ohio has a um sewage plant right there And I, it's like when you can smell it through the car window, like your windows are up and you can still smell it. Oh, New Jersey. Just in general. Just like when you're on the New Jersey turnpike and you're passing the oil refineries and factories and you just like, like if you're on a road trip and you fall asleep, one time I just woke up and I just knew I was in Jersey.

Yeah, the chemical treatment plants and shit. And you're just like, oh, fuck, we got to Jersey. Yeah. Like the towns and cities in Jersey don't really have much of a smell. but when you get out on the turnpike, you definitely, it hits you. And that's why Jersey gets the bad rap. I love Jersey.

People that pass through Jersey, that's all they see. I'm not going to shit on Jersey. There's, like, beautiful parts of Jersey. The turnpike, I actually love driving on the turnpike. It's like, you know, it's a great highway, speaking of interstate planning. But the smell, if you're, like, if you're, like, when you smell a skunk when you're driving,

and you're kind of like, oh, like, that's a skunk. It's like, oh, that's like New Jersey. Yeah. Is there anything cool in being on a road trip and being the first person in the car to be like skunk? Yeah. I love the smell of skunk. It just reminds me a summer. You know what I'm saying? Weed. Yeah. That's like the weed smell. Yeah, but like originally like when I'm like when I was like five, I was like, oh man, skunks are out. Summer. Skunks are crazy animals. Dude. They look cool. Skunks get a bad rap because of the smell thing. They look awesome. But maybe my favorite part. of a skunk is just the fact that they basically they basically just spray a fart on you if they feel like they're being attacked but you know how they do it they fucking stand on their front two legs they do like a handstand yeah dudes they get in pile driver pose yeah fart on you i knew i knew a dude who had a de d glanded skunk as a pet were they nice uh it was like a ferret temperament where it's like what's a ferret temper like ferrets like you know ferrets are either

gonna like fuck you up if they don't like you or they're gonna chill with you if they're cool with you so like skunk had the same vibe like if you like ferrets are only nice to the people who feed them yeah to everybody else you like get the fuck away from my cage can i give you guys a quick tip i actually use this in college one time so hopefully somebody else can can hopefully i'll pay it forward um jm you had a skunk problem on campus maybe not a problem but there were there was a significant skunk population in town finals week was coming up I forgot about one of my tests, and I emailed my professor that I got sprayed by a skunk and can't come to class. Did it work?

It absolutely worked because what are they going to do? Like, well, come in and let me smell you real quick and see if you're lying or not. I was like, I got to go get all this tomato juice from Walmart and then take a bath in it. I'm not going to be able to make it in. Maybe my all-time best excuse, Billy, you should file that one away. Yeah, I hope somebody out there takes my advice. If you have a test that you haven't studied for If you have anything

Sprayed by a skunk It works, it plays Oh yeah Have you ever been sprayed by a skunk That seems like a you thing Actually no Or whitey No no I was

We had a squirrel That lived in the football house Senior year Um Like that squirrel was like Ridiculous Squirrel's seen some shit No he that squirrel was like a criminal

Break in places And just like literally be in the kitchen and you couldn't do shit to catch the squirrel. And it was actually wrecking shit. That's awesome. Did you name it? I think they, I figure out what they called it. But that was when I was just going up to visit

because I was working at the same time. Yeah. That rocks. Yeah. All right. Well, that does it for nanodosing. I once killed a bunch of trash pandas. Raccoons?

Yeah. Raccoons are cute. Yeah. They were encroaching too far in my mom's house. and they were like going after my mom's cats and uh whitey when he was a little puppy at the time and uh they're just breaking into trash breaking into anything so like I just camped out one night by the trash cans

nice and uh just burnt them just had to do it had to be done um did you see what Billy McFarland said about you I don't want to give him any I don't give him any platform because like he's such a fucking what do you say so Billy football sent to tweet in our group chat of Billy McFarland boxing and some guy responded

I can see why you're afraid of Billy football at Rough and Rowdy. Billy McFarland goes two leg kicks and he pulls a conseco. Yeah. Bro, you got to fight him. No, I just, I don't understand like we had the perfect opportunity

to just train for three weeks for a fight and he's now training for I don't even want to put this in because I don't want to give him any fucking views. He's training for Life. No, he's trained for bully. I think he's actually doing MTV bully beat down.

He hops in a ring. Meanwhile, it turns out the guy had, like, actual MMA experience. So it wasn't like he was as unmatched as he made it sound like. Yeah, but it was going to be boxing. Yeah, but, like, boxing and MMA is like sprinting compared to football. Like, it's something that's integral integral to, like, the sport. So if you don't have any boxing technique, and it's not like I'm a like yes I boxed before but I'm nowhere close to like a gold glove

level boxer which isn't even like below amateur like he should have fought you like he looks weak you would have beat the shit out of him and uh Billy is probably in prison as you're listening to this look am I the only one who just thinks that jailing political dissidents is like totally a Russia move let's uh let's talk this through because that's sentence requires a lot of unpacking. Number one, who was the last president of Russia to be thrown in jail? No, political opponents. You said dissidents. Yeah, didn't the guy that ran against Putin get put in jail? I'm sure that probably happened. Yeah, well, actually, are we, we considering Donald Trump a political dissident? That's what he's known to be. I'd say he's a disruptor. Yeah, he is. So he's

apparently going to get arrested today. I don't know if they're going to purport. walk them or if they're, are they going to, like, take a mugshot of them? I hope that. The thing is, the, a mugshot of Donald Trump within, within 15 minutes, half of Twitter is going to have that as their, as their avatar. But you understand that, like, I don't know who, who's, like, doing all this, but this is, like, the best thing for his cause. I don't know if it is necessarily.

Like, I think it's, I think you put, mugshots are too fucking cool, bro. That's right. I agree with that. The Frank Sinatra mugshot t-shirt is, like, fucking cool. Yeah, I agree. Like mugshots kind of cool. Agreed. Kind of badass.

But do you think, do you think that would actually help him? Like, realistically, you think it's going to be better and easier for him to win the presidency a second time if he is under indictment and like arrest and standing trial? There's a lot of people who look up to people who are victims with the system. And if you got Donald Trump doing a perp walk, that's going to be fucking. Yeah. They're going to make an absolute clown show, like a circus out of it. I just don't know if you. Yeah. I just don't know if you have like 85 million people that would like that. Sure, there are a lot of people that would like it.

Well, there was 85 million people who, I mean, this, like, out of anything, like a white collar crime is like probably one of the least bad things that Donald Trump's been accused of. That's a good question. Like, is it a white collar crime or is it like, it's a, he's, so he's accused of paying off a porn star, which is, uh, it's a hilarious thing to get charged with a crime for. but I think it's um I think it's technically like a campaign finance thing right so he paid her from his campaign funds and then he paid himself back from his I don't know the details of it but basically yeah it's a it's a financial crime that he's accused of financial election crime that he's accused of so uh I don't know yeah of all the things that you can pin this guy down for it it does kind of rock that you're getting charged with a crime for fucking a porn star that's that's that's that's pretty cool if you had

to ask me like what crime would you want to be charged with oh sorry for getting laid your honor it's too fucking your honor i plead guilty to being horny as fuck i mean i don't know also billy it sounds like you've been reading some dark corners of the internet because i understand the sentiment that it's a it's not like a big crime that he's accused of and it's going to be a salacious trial and it's going to be a big media spectacle but realistically i don't think that it helps him get elected again. I think it brings him back to the national consciousness. And Trump was always in the national consciousness. He hasn't been for a while. Like, like, this is the biggest news. What do you consider? What do you consider national consciousness? Uh, I think Trump has

definitely been out of the national consciousness since January 6th. That's, that's, that's not what I asked. He's the most talked about person in America. What do you consider the national consciousness? Uh, realistically, my brain. He hasn't been. realistically am i seeing him on cnn all the time am i seeing him on twitter am i seeing him on the internet i'm seeing like a little of him but like he's like i just remember like i haven't been and what billy says by am i seeing him on cnn he means like are people that i follow on the internet posting clips of cnn talking about him yeah but and it hasn't been i like but compared to where he was in his presidency it's been that's because he was the president

Yeah. So this is, I mean, like, since the election, since everything, I mean. I don't think it's, I don't think it's going to help him get elected. It's definitely going to make a lot of, you can't, you can't deny that there wasn't after January 6th a concerted effort to sort of try to like not cause the media circus around Donald Trump so that he wouldn't get like, you know, no, no news is bad news type thing. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like no press is bad press. So I mean, all press is good press. So they kind of picked up on that. and they just stopped talking about him? I don't think anyone stopped talking about Trump. I also think that people in Trump circle have been trying to get Trump to not make as much news, hopefully, as possible. There's always going to be people around Trump that are like, dude, you need to just cool it down. Please let me do my job.

Don't make a big circus at this. And then Trump, he loves, you know, he's great at stealing the spotlight and getting attention for himself. That's why he became who he is. He went on Nelk Boys, who was so desperate for press. like come on he's not desperate for press I don't think that's one of the biggest shows in America

I know but like it didn't get that much like a claim it wasn't like Because it got taken down off YouTube Oh so I'm right How are you allowed to make you right That there's been a concerned effort to like Keep them out of the news It wasn't about keeping Trump out of the news

YouTube said that they were going to take down videos that had any sort of like If you even brushed with election denial They were going to take it down It wasn't that Trump was on there. It was that he was talking about the election being rigged. So they took him out of the national conscious because he was promoting that type of message. Trump is.

Now he's back in the news. Trump has been. I think you're arguing two different things. There is something different between like they are, there is a, there is an effort to silence some things he has said versus he is in the national conversation. He's the most talked about person in America still. I don't think there's anybody out there that's just like, they're going to tune into the news today and be like, who's this Trump guy that no but I'm just I'm just saying you have

you have about this I like the cut of that guy's gym I'm gonna you know what I'm gonna look him up on Wikipedia I think no but because of his message they've been definitely not giving him the platform that he used to have yeah even when before he was president like I was because he's not the president right but I think now like I don't understand why he's gonna get arrested it's gonna be a whole big thing

Billy's definitely going down to Manhattan correctional That was like a joke. I'm not going to try. That was a bit. I'm not actually going to go down there. I'm not an idiot. You should actually put on a war correspondent uniform with the vest, the helmet, big sign that says journalist and go down there and cover. I would actually love to do that.

If it wasn't, if it wasn't, if it wouldn't be taken the wrong way, I actually would do that. But if I would go down there, everyone's going to be like, Billy's a proud boy, which is. No, not if you're wearing a journalist. If you're clearly marked as being a journalist. If you have credentials. I don't have credentials. You can make yourself credentials. I just sent in on the street.

Also, I think owning a flackjacket's illegal in New York if you're not. I didn't say flackjacket, just a vest. Journalists always have vest. Yeah. Wear a vest, put on a helmet, go down there, cover the event. I would. But. I have to record part of my take tomorrow.

Oh, really? Yeah. What time is that? We have a interview at 10 a.m. Yeah. And then we have another one at. three to four so i think in between there uh we're recording i think you i think you'd be better used down yes actually no i don't want to get anywhere near that because then like it goes from being a bit

to billy's actually going down to protest and being a proud boy you would be you would be covering it as a journalist anyway moving on so yeah trump's getting arrested today i just i'm calling it right now and this is Monday, it's going to be, if we got Trump with certain visuals, it's going to be everywhere, it's going to get shared, and it's going to bring him back to the viral status that he was that, like, they, like, everyone's been trying to keep him away from. You know, he's on Twitter. You got let back on Twitter. He just doesn't want to post there because he's, he's trying to blow the truth.

I know, but like other people are going to be posting it. Like, it's going to hit Twitter and it's going to be a thing. Yeah. Every day I see one of Trump's truth, socials, truths, or whatever the fuck he. Hey Mark tweets Every day I see somebody Screenshot in his shit He's always being talked about

He's the president Like If any president Does any Huh Do you still believe he's the president? Was the president He was the president

If any former president Does anything It's going to be in the national news Like It just is what it is But he never left Like I think PFT's right

I think There's a split in the Republican Party Now And like I think people want more a safe bet which is wild but to say that

DeSantis yeah yeah desantis is more of a safe bet than Trump just because he he aligns with more of the moderate feel I mean I don't understand how you know people who want Trump to go away and like actually believe that he's you know terrible for democracy why they don't start like promoting DeSantis because it will split the vote and then the Democrats will just have an easy because Trump will run as an independent

and they'll have a, uh, what's, who's the guy? They are, they are promoting DeSantis. More so than Trump. I think if you asked, if you asked a lot of like Democrats on CNN, MSNBC, who they would rather have as president, they would all tell you DeSantis. Now, their producers and the owners of CNN and MSNBC would probably say DeSantis, but then secretly want Trump to be president because that's good for ratings. I don't think.

But I don't think that's the main profit driver of those networks. Ratings? No, like, realistically, like, I don't think they're as click-heavy. I think they just, I think they're more paid for their influence by other special interest groups. Go on? Like, CNN's ratings has been terrible since, like. That's what I'm saying since Trump.

So they want him back. They want Trump. But I don't think the top-down wants Trump back. Are you, is this your way of saying, like, George. George Soros pays CNN and tells them what to... More probably like Pfizer and like groups that want to like sway the public different ways. Those are advertisers.

Pfizer. Oh shit. Pfizer gave $3.8 billion to CNN. That's like recorded. Gave it to them? Yeah. I think it was a donation. Okay.

Let's look this up. Pfizer donation to CNN. I'm not getting in no more facts or mass talks with you. motherfucker's dog so I'm not taking this bait not taking this okay I just want to look at this up Billy where you said how many billion dollars let me find it okay he said 3.8 billion dollars Pfizer just okay let me find it uh uh sh shh shh why can't you know when billy starts doing the some bar is about to drop no but I don't think they're not like us barstool sports that

drives trying to drive engagement trying to i don't think that's their model that's that is one it's the entire model i know but i think they're already established enough where they're just you know pay to play from whoever wants to get them to sway their opinion you're describing advertising yeah i am but i don't think perfectly describing advertising so if if a place has the people who advertise with them want them pumping trump 24-7 like they used to and basically got them elected you do like come on where i know i'm very confused So you're saying The CNN is not driven by rating

It's driven by dark They're not a sense They're not a sensationalist Not a dark No one said dark I just I don't think sensationalism Drives CNN like it does Like our model

I'm not talking about sensationalism I Trump Trump is sensationalism He is but not like In the way that you're talking about Trump is just kind of must see TV For a lot of people Because he he causes a little bit of chaos

He is funny at times and he's entertaining. So that's why people tune in and watch him. It's very easy to see, like, yes, Trump's president, CNN is going to do better ratings as opposed to having Ron DeSantis as president. Right? I don't think that's, that's unfair to say. Like, Trump will probably do way better ratings for CNN than DeSantis would. And then when CNN's ratings do better, then they charge more money for advertising from companies who want to pay them to play their ads in order to influence people to buy their products. So that's, you accurately described how advertising works.

I don't think sensationalism is what's driving CNN's content. What is? I think they're trying to like detract from that actually get a little more like, I think they're more aligned with what their sponsors want them to put out and pay them to put out than actually trying to get people to watch and get people like, you know, they're not show, like they're not driving like clicks and eyeballs the same way that like barstool sports does which is trying to like put like sensationalism clickbait articles and like the content how are they trying to attract eyes i can't decide if this take is really far right or really

far left it's it's totally down the middle and you guys are like so like i honestly don't know what you're saying but you guys want to disagree with me no i don't think what i'm saying i have far right i know no i think it might be far left actually yes yes yes So you guys are just fucking idiots. I honestly have no idea what you're saying. Just, Billy, can I give you some advice? Just say what you want to say. I'm saying what I want to say.

There's something that you're dancing around that. I don't know what it is. I'm not dancing around anything. I just don't think that their models that they want to pump Trump and pump all of Trump's antics and have them doing perk box and having getting mudshots. Like I don't think that was like what they want to put out on their television. I think that they're more aligned with what their advertisers want. And even if what they put out isn't doing well,

ratings wise they're still getting money from the advertisers and dictating what they want so it's all fine and you give me an elevator pitch of what you're trying to say like short like just put it zip file that shit and say it they're already at a CNN in like these large corporation fox as well I think Fox also operates on the same model where you know they're doing 24 hours of of pillow programming right because I mean like their advertisers lean a certain way and they just their advertisers are just dictating what they're saying like for example you know we like like they're not going to totally switch up they're not going to want trump just because they get to like their ratings will go up because of trump i think they

actually have like groups that don't want that type of content and they will keep paying them to just promote like you know can you can you just tell me like what an example of that is like the content that they're putting out for their sponsors um um Let's look at CNN's top advertisers. Okay. Does you find the $3 billion that was given to them? So you're saying that CNN advertisers is Fox News. Hold on, hold on Billy, hold on Billy.

You're saying, I'm just trying to paraphrase your, what you're saying. You're saying that CNN is no longer driven by the content game and engagement and clicks. They're driven by their advertisers and their donors. And they're saying you do the content that we say and not. what drives clicks. That's what you're saying. That aligns with our values and doesn't, you know, go over the top and start, you know, causing stuff that they don't want to happen to happen. So here's the top brands on Fox News. Oh, this is a 2018. It's like I had him and then he lost me. You know what I'm saying? He said like seven words that I just don't understand.

So, okay, Fox News. So this is February 2018. It might not reflect the current environment. But Nutrisystem had a $1.9 million dollar ad deal with Fox News. They're top advertising. Million or billion? million Nutra system Yeah Probably would It's not that much money Well it's 2018

Okay Nutris system Got it All right Nutris system Probably wants them to put out content that is you know

Health and lifestyle Like promoting new diets promoting new stuff So that when the Nutrisystem ad comes on People are like Oh Because think about it

Like Fox News Does have a lot of like health and wellness like health and wellness like uh specials and like are you saying guys like like dr oz on and you know they're doing that so that might not drive you know oh you're not going to be like oh i want to go watch dr oz talk about health but the people who are watching who say oh maybe i should go on a diet nutrition ad comes on and they're like oh let me go use neutral system Are you saying this is how, I mean, you're describing advertising in a sense, but it's not, it's not driven by sense. It's not driven by the sensationalism. It's driven by what content is going to directly give the advertisers the most bang for their buck. He's describing advertorials in a way. You know those like little sections in a magazine where you start reading it and you're, and you think it's an article. And after like a paragraph, you're like, wait a second, this page looks a little bit differently formatted from the rest of the magazine I was just reading. Aha. It's an ad.

So you're saying, so, okay, so they're not getting paid per eyeball per click per, they're getting paid to create content that will make people use the product. To use their product. So like, for example, Nutrisystem doesn't want Trump 24-7, like, you know, going off about election denial because when the Nutri System ad goes on, you're not going to be anywhere inspired to go on a diet because Donald Trump's denying the election. bro this is not this event that's not how this works it i i think when you're at like when you're a company like cnn and you already have as widespread uh you know you're going to get a certain

amount of years no matter what that their viewers have been going down though they've been having to like fire people i know but it's still going to be a large enough amount like a lot of people they're an established they're an established media already where there's not like they're going to go kaput overnight are you it's almost like you're too big to fail in a certain ways in their advertiser money and all the groups that pay them are going to keep them in business no matter what are you saying that they would not want to report on things that would be upsetting to their audience no i'm saying that they wouldn't want to report on something that would not be as effective as getting people to use their advertisers products or you know but like they're not

it's not an infomercial channel like they're reporting the news they report whatever happens right with an editorial slant spring There's, but throughout there's like, you know, I'm not just talking about late night television, Dateline stuff. Like CNN like has morning shows they have, but like where they have, you know, different, like we're going to use Nutri System as an example where they have people come on and talk about new diets, new exercise plans, different types of things. Because that's just the type of stuff that once Nutri System comes on for the commercial break, they're like, oh, yeah, they're talking about making a change in my life. Okay, let's go to my nutrition.

Well, that's just like what they paid for. Exactly. You're just describing advertising. I mean describing that it's not sensationalism that they're influenced content. So he's saying that CNN is not reporting on the news. They're reporting on the news with a bias that leans towards their advertiser dollars. Exactly. But it's not necessarily true because like CNN had to change their model because they were losing.

Like they took such a bad PR hit because Trump was on a bumper so much that. They stop just having people who are of the left on there. So they have very moderate and some right-leaning host and right-leaning people on their programs now. And so it's not, it's not cut and dry like you're saying. Like, I just don't, have you ever watched CNN? Like, honestly. Like, not the clips, my G.

Like, have you ever watched the program? Yes. And you see, and you see they're just. saying whatever the advertisers want them to say i don't understand no i do think that they report on the news but i think most of their content direction is derived to ensure the like their sponsors are happy so the premise behind this was that they're not talking about trump at all but they're talking about trump all day also the cost of their advertising goes up if their ratings go up right which trump being president would make happen certain that was pfd's initial point i don't think that's what

drives their business model but it would make them more money they could keep the existing business model but also if their ratings were better they could charge more money yeah which you're essentially positive billy is that the advertisers don't give a shit about money coming back to them right yeah no they know the advertisers want money coming back to them because but they're not going to get as much money coming back to them if the ratings aren't as high but if the content is more directed to a way that it causes more of the people that are watching the larger percentage of people to actually carry through and get the product a big a more successful ad campaign right but also they would get even more money if there were more people watching with the still successful ad campaign

have you found the 3.8 billion dollars yet i'm looking for it right now i'm trying to defend my points at the same time no i'm just curious i honestly i i had not heard that so i would be interested to know that i don't know if fyser gave CNN and a $3 billion gift i don't know if that's true or not but uh let me find it i don't i don't know i think i think cnn has has changed horses for sure um but i think they're just like anybody like sure they may have like segments that you know acquiesce to their donors and their i will yeah go ahead i'll i'll say that if they did give three billion dollars to cnn that is a giant waste of money like considering what cnn's ratings are and what their reaches a three billion dollar three billion dollars you know there's some you know anything about more

reach than them yeah oh yeah for sure if you know anything about modern media like that whoever is in charge of their vice president of uh of media purchasing or acquisition or whatever they should be fired for that that's a that's a bad use of three billion dollars my personal it could be true i don't know i haven't looked into it this uh spizer okay this is the Pfizer in a total spent 3.8 billion media advertisements. Okay. 2.8 and then how much that went to CNN?

Just first of all, we've established this was not a gift. It was advertising. It was advertising. And the amount that went to CNN was 500.

I like that Billy's discovering in real time how like Big Pharma advertising works. Wait till you hear about the fact that Big Pharma hires all the most attractive women in America

and then gives them a clothing allowance of like $100,000 a year and tells them to go to doctor's offices and charm the doctors into having lunch with them. That's how the opioid epidemic. Yeah. Even before that, there's been going back

10s, 20, 30, 40 years. That's how big pharma has worked. I think I've said this on this show before, but I think is that illegal now? Like they can't do it or they can't do it as much. certain things. They're tighter restrictions, but they went hard on. But when I was, when I was a kid, uh, my mom's a nurse. So she worked in a doctor's office. And in the summers, I would sometimes go to work with her and they'd pay me a penny to open bandades. So I'd open like 500 bandades in a day and get

five bucks. And the drug reps would bring in just these sick, incredible lunches. Yeah. And those, I mean, those guys were the best. Yeah. Yeah. They like take you out to gourmet meals to take you on vacations. It's, you know what they do. So here's the, the, the, the, the, baseline big pharma business model you hire either the most attractive women that you can find right out of college and then you train them and you give them the like all the most fashionable clothes big makeup allowance and tell them to go charm these old doctors or you hire former college athletes that are celebrities in certain parts of the country and then you say okay go and talk to these doctors about these products that we're pushing because they'll talk to you you've got

name recognition. Then they make a shit load of money. So, uh, big farmers, they're dirty dogs. They're dirty dogs. So of course, like having a three billion dollar budget or whatever for advertising for a company as big as Pfizer, not that surprising to me. Did you find out how much they gave CNN? Looking. But I think people are getting tired of this talk so we can move on. How do you go? I go and tell them what they tired of. You started this entire thing. We've been trying to get to the bottom of it. That just means you found out how much they gave ZN. No, I didn't.

I can't find it, and I don't want to just be sitting on this. Got you. No worries. I watched... But I just think, I think that ratings doesn't drive the majority of their content. Is your entire premise on this that CNN has become just a mouthpiece for Pfizer? No, no, no. My press on this, like, for example, Fox News, I think...

Because if that's the case, like, I'll hear that. No, but I think, I think, for example, Fox News is most of their advertisers are more like my pillow guy like buy the Patreon pillow like this is like you know this is a this is a pillow for Americans who

don't trust the government what you're saying is driven by ratings those are the people who are watching those shows right in the content like she want to buy the America pillow because you identify as so one of my home girls has a podcast right and one of her advertisers

hit me out one of her advertisers is Michelle Obama, right? That will, we will