Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Who’s The Better Cult Leader: Taylor Swift or Elizabeth Holmes? | NANODOSE

Episode Date: May 9, 2023

On today’s episode PFT is back and joined by Billy and Big T. The guys discuss the gangs that are fraternities and sororities, Big T at the Taylor Swift concert and the NY Times puff piece on Elizabeth Holmes. (00:01:45) Fraternities & Sororities (00:13:09) Billy’s Intern Interviews (00:18:07) Taylor Swift (00:44:20) Elizabeth HolmesYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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Use promo code macro 15. Take 15% off your entire order. Now, here's nanodosing. On today's nanodosing, we're going to cover Big T's weekend with Taylor Swift. We're really going to dive deep into Taylor Swift. We're also going to get into Elizabeth Holmes, or as she's known now, Liz Holmes and her glowing puff piece in the New York Times that came out of the weekend. Really wide-ranging topic of discussion and also some fraternity, sorority inside baseball. ball stuff. So big episode starting now. If y'all ever want to watch the greatest press

conference of all time, Google University of Tennessee butt chugging lawyer press conference. It's the greatest press conference ever given. Like he was the lawyer for he was the lawyer for the frat guys who got kicked off campus or whatever for butt chugging and it is hysterical. Like our soft can we start the are we recording right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we just start all that. Can we start the episode with just Big T saying that sentence of the greatest press conference ever? Yeah, of course. So I kind of agree with Billy, though, that hazing should be allowed if it's consensual.

You know what it is? This is 50 shades of cray. This is really just like. We're not talking about the hazing people to have a great time and party. If you consent to it, like I could actually see a world where maybe I ain't gone out and partied in a while. and I want to really let the hair down have a blast and I'm like man I really wish I had a drinking coach like somebody that would get me you know fucked up

and show me a good time getting locked in Billy's basement with a keg of beer would actually be fun for probably about three hours that didn't happen though sophomore year of college at Miami we got in like national trouble Paul Ryan's fraternity he went to Miami Paul Ryan's fraternity got in trouble

because they were paddling people with nails and so there were like pictures of people's asses going around the campus of like just black black and blue the frat guys like playing on a football team we'd hear all these crazy frat hazing stories from our friends went to big schools and it just kind of sounds weird like all the like hazing was supposed to be like fun like yeah i don't know like i mean i mean frats the weird beating shit i never got and like i guess some people are just really fucking sadistic yeah and they like get off on like Who the hell wants to beat the guy's ass with a paddle?

Right. That's just fucking weird. The whole thing, because I would ask like my guy friends that were in frats, I'm like, why would you want to do this?

Like in sororities we just give you free shirts and like we pay for meals and stuff. Like why would you want to be mean? And they're like, well, my big was mean to me. So then I'm,

it's like it's just a cycle that no one's willing to end. It's like, well my big was me to me and paddled me and so now I have to do that to my little. The thing is I didn't like looking at all that stuff. I didn't understand

how much power frats had on a campus so much in different you know like until I went like to one and saw that

oh my God like people it's actually controlling like if you can hook up chicks like a thousand percent it was which is so

in what way no it's like if you like these girls from this sorority and like inter sorority politics like they're going to make sure

you hook up with these guys from this frat so that they keep having mixers it's really fucking weird yeah like if PFT like if

girl in my sorority, this would happen. If a girl in my sorority was dating a guy who was, let's call it, in a bottom tier frat, like a not as cool frat, then you would look down on her and be like, why are you dating him? Like, it doesn't matter who the quality of the guy is, but like if you were dating someone in a not as cool frat, then they were like, oh my God. Or in vice versa, if, like, we were in the middle, I was a very average for sorority. So if you were dating someone way up, like in the frat rankings then it was like oh she's the shit like all of it has to do with that you also know that all of his brothers are talking shit about you all the time right because then then you have to think about it the other way you're dating down and so then it's like all of this politics of like

if we get enough girls to date guys in this fraternity then we can fraternity and sorority mix with these frats and then boost our rankings and then the thing is the cool frats are the ones with the highest dues because they throw the biggest parties and basically it's just no one's getting laid off of merit right this is the caste system all over again and then there was Greek rank which basically was like Reddit for fraternities and sororities and you'd leave anonymous messages like oh my god like Capadilza has the ugliest girls ever no one ever hook up with them and then like girls would be like oh my gosh my friend got roofied at Sigma Kai never go back to Sigma Chi blah blah blah they would just be like constant back and forth on Greek rank

this sounds like the worst time ever it sounds like the stupidest shit of was the funniest thing when like me and my football boys would go visit a big school and we just somehow get into a frat party because at the time you're the shit no like like like people still remember

Billy's football barnstorming tour like like what and then we get to the frat parties but then all of a sudden doors open it was like red sea part at Billy steps on campus at any major state school in America and they're like let's roll out the red carpet Billy's here guys no it

anyway so then all of a sudden but that would end up in a lot of bad situations my friends would be in these frats and the frat brothers would be like who the fuck are you and then they'd all just swarm like some sort of hive mentality to like get into these huge like just like

well because guys they're all really small they don't work out anymore guys weren't allowed to go to other fraternities party so if you were in SIG Kai you couldn't go to a pike party or alpha adult party or whatever so you got to stick with your guys but like girls could go

to whatever tiered party so it's like I couldn't go to a top tier party but I could go to like any other party It shit sounds like gangs actually Kind of white gang They just with Greek letters Throw up your sign Mad Dog Katie? Yeah

I have a secret handshake and everything Yeah this is a gang You were in a gang Kind of I was I have my letters I have my secret I have secret Like sayings that no one else knows if I say AOT, like, you don't know what that means.

And then I have my secret hand shake. Was there a secret initiation to this? Yep. I had an initiation. Okay. That's another checkmark for the gang. I had to wear all white. Did you provide, did you ever provide alcohol?

Repeat that one. One more time. Did I ever provide alcohol to anyone underage? Yes. No, no, big, no, big T's question. Yeah, we all had to wear all white at our initiation. Oh, interesting. No huts.

No huts. And what were those three letters again? Were they, it was you said Kappa? Kappa Delta. No No more than 1K I bet you guys rode horses a lot

You had a lot of horse girls No No So you did provide So really You're also like running A alcohol trafficking Organization as well

These are gangs I think we need to shut the whole Greek system down Until we can figure out what the hell is going on The Bamar Rush Doc is about to do that Am I crazy here is illegal for sororities to throw parties where did i hear that did sororities not throw parties sororities didn't at my school because we didn't have houses but that where did i read i don't think it's illegal also isn't there like a crazy uh building code no no no no i know no i know no i know where billy's going with us

ted no no ted didn't isn't there a reason why there's different wait wait ted bundy so the old urban legend yeah so there's a ted bundy one but there's also the urban legend that uh that that you can't have more than like five women living together in a single like dorm. No, that's not what I was apartment. You all know that's true. Which is not true. That was a rule at Miami. Every town says that.

No, no, every, every college, mad dog, every college town in America says this exact same thing. Urban legend. That's not real. I was saying, isn't there like a Ted Bundy sorority house? Oh, I don't know what you're talking about. Like they have to have locks on every single floor to prevent. I didn't have a sorority house. I don't know.

I'm, sorry. totally probably wrong about that but I remember hearing something like that I want to talk to either a sorority member or a fraternity member who after they graduate from college still abides by these same arbitrary rules like finds out that

his bro's dating like a girl from Alpha Phi or whatever he's like dude you got a dump her he's like we're 35 they do in the South bro they have weddings where they put both of their sorority fraternity letters on the cake I found out about this recently it is wild

Oh, well, the South's so intense. And all the Southern weddings are just literally both the fraternity and sorority. That's the only people invite it. Like if you're like besides family. Yeah. And then they have, I mean, like somebody that like really abides by those rules as dating standards too. No, seriously, they still do. They're like, oh my, my, you're dang, that girl.

She was in like not our sorority. And like basically the weddings turn into mixers. Like, is it in this true? I don't, I don't think that's true. No, I think you know one person who that happened to. I heard this was several. Okay. So this is all anecdotal based on people you know.

Someone I know is on like the Southern Wedding Circuit because they married a Southern person. The circuit. The circuit. That's how he describes it. The Southern Wedding Circuit. He's like, yeah, dude, like I'm going to weddings every weekend and they just all these weird sorority fraternity stuff. And I'm just an outsider, because I'm from the north. Okay.

So I'm sure that it happens pretty frequently if you get married to somebody that went to your same school and you were in frat while she was in a sorority and then you incorporate the letters and you've got all the brothers and sisters and stuff there i'm sure that happens a lot also in uh in black fraternities and black sororities those are like at the weddings those are featured really prominently there's all these different um routines and traditions that you have to do at a wedding where they incorporate like a certain song or a certain dance that goes along with it um call and response things like that that's definitely true too but i mean i just would like to I would like to talk to somebody who's like a 35-year-old ex-frat boy.

I guess once or in a frat, always in a frat, is how this guy would think. But somebody that maintains those standards based on what his colleges, good and bad sororities were and still chastises his bros for dating down. I want to talk to a person like that. Yeah, that's a big. I mean, again, I went to school in the North, so it wasn't nearly as big as it is, like, in Bama or, you know, the SEC. But because I'm sure, like, Big T has experiences more than I do with that. Zero. This whole conversation has enraged me, actually. Sorry.

Yeah. It is. Maybe not in the, like, the South as a whole, but definitely there's, like, people who go to, like, UGA, like, who are in that scene. That's the sort of vibe. Totally. I have no idea what you're talking about. Were you in a frat? No. Am I the only one that was? Yeah, weirdo. Yeah, I guess.

All this shit seriously sounds like the dumbest shit of all time. No offense. It was fun. It does. It's funny. Billy's like a frat anthropologist because he's, you identify as a fraternity brother. You're honorary member. Oh, no. Even if you weren't, like, that's not actually who you are.

In high school, I thought it was like, yo, dude, don't want to join a frat? And then like, I played on a football team, wasn't a frat, then saw all this frat stuff in big schools from like third person. I was like, these guys suck. I bet there's a lot of you are good. But the way they act as a group, there's, there was just, there was a mentality is a bit rough. Definitely very hostile towards football players coming into their house, drinking all their alcohol and trying to, like, talk to their girls. Didn't like that.

Yeah, usually. Billy's like I always wanted to be in a frat growing up and I never got to. Well, Billy, you work for Barstall sports now, which is a good thing. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of. Is this a frat? Basically.

It's one big frat, I think. Basically. You know how like Big Cat comes around once every month and just beats the shit out of every new hire? Oh, yeah. as our initiation. That's pretty similar, I think. I think I'm going to do a series this summer, hazing the interns. Okay. Yeah, I like that. That's good.

Yeah. That's good. I had that point in my career. Can I haze them? Yo, bro, I heard you're dating somebody at Sports Illustrated. What's the fuck? Yeah, Billy, I think you should definitely do that. You should definitely haze the interns.

I think that'd be good idea. I know. Just consensually. Consensual hazement Yeah Yeah Make them sign some shit Are the intern interviews hazing in a weird way

Yes I really want to I've always wanted to do one of the intern interviews You would just like end up becoming like best friends with one of them No What questions were you asking an intern, Billy? Well I have a whole list Of like NFL draft questions

I'm like NFL draft questions just like to see their mentality yeah okay ask ask away pretend i'm an intern okay uh would you bite a head off a mouse to get this job yes a living mouse yes and then eat it yes even if you might conduct like some like bloodborne disease yes okay see what happened was you gave that's the answer he wanted to that question so he had to keep asking follow-ups trying to get you to say no yeah But, I mean, you already asked me the question, which was, would you bite the head off a mouse? That's the, that's the bad part of the question. Would you purposely contract HIV for this job?

Yes. And not be able to use the right medication for it. Yes. Till it progresses till AIDS. Yes. Yes. Okay. You see, you, your interviews are so easy.

Yeah, dude, fuck, bro. What if you just lived down a live mouse? There's like a hidden question or like a. hidden meaning behind some of these questions that you're trying to get at and trick somebody. But it's just really being like, yo, yo, you straight up, would you kill somebody for this job? Yeah. All right, sweet.

You got it. Also, more like, you can tell a lot about a person in different ways. Like, how do they work out? Like, what's your favorite? Like, what's your workout routine? Oh, my God. Like, are you, like, a cardio guy? Like, what's your, you can tell a lot from a person.

What's your diet? Yeah. Billy, I play tennis. casually is that's my workout what does that say about me like how much do you play tennis i play like depends on if my feet are feeling sore but um sometimes on a sunday afternoon i'll have a salad and go down to the local court yeah that's fine i wouldn't fucking you're liar you would kill me i wouldn't fucking you would kill that person you would murder that do you have like is there do you have the mentality that there's a man in the in a cave training

to fight you across the world and every day you got to beat that man because he doesn't have any electricity no running water but he's training

to get you and you have that mentality there's a man across the fucking do you have that mentality yeah for this job I don't know when that

not for this job okay is it got it and every day you got to wake up and you got to beat that man because one day

you're going to meet him wait Billy every morning you wake up and you think about a You truly believe that there's a man in a cave somewhere? It's a metaphorical man. You hate him?

It's a metaphorical man. It's like Plato? He's like training to take you down. Yeah, this is Plato. You're rewriting Plato's famous allegory. No, no, that's different. That's like. That's the cave.

It's literally called the cave. They're not training in the cave. They're just watching reflections and shadows of their interpretations of what they think life is. My guy in the cave is training to. kill me. And every day I have to do as much as I can to make sure that when that day comes, I beat him. That's actually extremely narcissistic. You think that there's a man out there halfway around the world that knows who you are. And all he thinks about all day long is how he needs to train harder to kill you. Here, let me just show you. I'm going to send you an

inspirational TikTok and you'll understand it better. I'm out. No. I'm good. No, it's a metaphorical man. It's like there's always a guy out there who's training to be better than you. is there there's a it's a Derek Jeter quote okay the man in the cave uh big tea word on the street is that you're not too happy about the way something went over the course of this weekend

what is that uh was there not a certain event that you went to that you were upset about I wasn't upset are you are you talking about the ticket thing like where your seats were oh that ended up not being that much of an issue

so I was at the Taylor Swift concert and there were four big pillars on the floor of the stadium that had big speakers on them one of them blocked like the back part of the stage but she didn't really do anything there so it wasn't a big deal I thought when we arrived I was like

Like that's going to be a problem, but it wasn't. Okay, so you were able to see the concert unobstructed. Yeah, except for like three songs. And those were the ones I didn't care about anyway. I didn't care about the overwhelming majority of them. So you went to see Taylor Swift. You are officially a Swifty now. Welcome to the club.

Welcome. To have you as a member. What was your big takeaway from that show? Did you go into it as a massive Taylor Swift fan? Did you go into it as like a medium Taylor Swift fan? or as a like I hate this chick I'm not a fan definitely not three except for one moment in the concert

uh somewhere between two and three like on a scale of one to ten I am like a three like she has some good songs most of them though I don't care about but my girlfriend obviously this was the Super Bowl so we went it was a good show a little too long

obviously I'm not the intended audience so for everyone else I'm sure they wanted it to be longer. She went like three hours and 15 minutes. It was like five hours with the openers, which for me was a twinge long. But it was a great show. My main takeaway was this.

And this was going to be, it's not a teed off, but it's my teed, the teed segment of the day. Taylor Swift needs to run the economy. Because Sleepy Joe is running this thing into the ground. And you go to a Taylor Swift concert. Let me tell you something. not only obviously every seat's full, every bar you can't get in, every hotel room is $800 a night, the merch line is 45 minutes long for the duration of the entire concert, the bathroom

lines, it's everything. You can't go anywhere. The Taylor Swift economy is doing unbelievable right now. It's, yeah, she needs to be the economy, she needs to be Treasury Secretary. okay yeah like I'm in like we need get get somebody in there who knows how to do some damn business also I was doing a little bit of a little bit of math as I was sitting at the show I was like let's say conservatively I think this probably a pretty fair estimate but on a little bit on the conservative side let's say an average of $300 a ticket to to her shows that's that's conservative but yeah right that's that's that's like on the primary market, right? The secondary market

It's all over the place. Yeah, but she doesn't get that money. I'm saying the face value of the tickets, I'd say an average of 300, probably a little bit conservative, times 70,000, which is about what all these shows are, times I think she's doing 52 shows. Do you know what number that is?

Just in ticket revenue? No, I'm not. I can't follow the math. 1.1 billion. Oh, Queen. That is only tickets for this tour. I guarantee you That's not that surprising She's paying millions

Right she doesn't get all that Let's say she gets A quarter She's making a lot of money Let's see So how many shows 52? I think it was 52 yeah I think it's like 18 weekends

And like three Top my head I bet she's making 5 mil a night God I think it sounds more I bet she's getting more than that

Yeah, I bet she's taking home more than that for sure. No, no, I'm saying, take, I'm saying like, that's, that's her money. Yeah, at least. Let's just look up how much Taylor Swift make per concert. Nine million, nine million. Oh, my God. Yeah, that probably sounds right. With like merch and everything.

She could earn $620 million on ERA's tour. And she'd make half a deal. Big T is, is absolutely right. Like, she moves products. She puts asses in seats. And not only that, not only is she like having people go to all, the bars around there, elevating the local economies, selling a shitload of merch and shit at the concerts. Every girl that goes to a Taylor Swift show, at least the ones that I've seen, they go out,

they buy an outfit to go to the Taylor Swift concert. More than one in my anecdotal experience. They buy all new shit because like this is my Taylor Swift dress that I'm wearing to the Taylor Swift show tonight. This is my fun hat. It's like a wedding. Oh, you know what? I've got three different hats for the different eras that she's going to be singing through. right am i right like this is my love story hat that i'm putting on when she just when she says pulls out a ring it's a giant ring with a big diamond on the side of it i saw a tictock that was like literally girls like split their outfits like almost like how like uh the kelsey mom had like the split jerseys like it was split outfits of like her eras so like one side was like

one era and the other side was the other era like insane i don't know how they do it really quick what are airs. All 10 of her different albums. Oh my God. That's a lot of errors. A lot of he's gone through a lot. She's a long time. Okay. I like Taylor Swift. I think she's a great songwriter. Fine singer. She writes some catchy-ass tunes. What she's really good at is establishing her lore. There's so much lore that goes into it. So if you're a Taylor Swift fan, you know all the different secrets that she's dropping left and right. You know what this line represents and who she's talking about with this song and what she was going through at this time. And that makes it more powerful and it all gets wrapped up to one big. It's really no different than Lord of the Rings, essentially.

It's just like if you're a big fan of any piece of pop culture, it's no different than being like Taylor Swift is essentially like, I don't know, Game of Thrones. It's Game of Thrones for sorority girls. Kelly Kiggs was saying on on the other line the other day that she's like the same age as Taylor and so she was like I can follow Taylor's discography and my life timeline

almost exactly to a T and now I'm a bit younger than that but now every single thing that I go through I'm gonna get me a Tyler there's a Taylor Swift song to match my mood I always love Taylor Swift because she sang about football players a lot and I was always like yeah

she keeps pumping up this high school sport Yeah. When does she do that? Oh, love story? 17? No, 15. Wait, 15?

She's not really being nice to you there. I think that's the only one. Yeah, she's not like a huge like football stand. No, I'm pretty, isn't there like a whole music video? No, Mad Dogg, you don't get it. You can't, Matt Dogg, you can't tell somebody what her songs mean to that. Yeah, yeah. If Philly finds meaning in it, you're Taylor's right.

I'm sure Billy could find it in like folklore. Yeah. That's true. Honestly, you know what? What kind of dig is that? What's folklore about? No, I'm just saying like that would have nothing to do with football, but you would find something, some reason. Actually, there's a, there's a song when she talks about her Eagles t-shirt hanging on the door, like her Philadelphia Eagles t-shirt.

That's football. Wait, no, isn't, what's the one where you're on the phone with your girlfriend? Oh, you belong with me? Yeah, isn't that a football player in that? Yeah, I guess. Or is that just in the music video? No one. According to Billy, she sings the vast majority of her songs about dating a quarterback.

No, like, that's about, like, dating like the jock. Yeah, the popular guy. The popular guy. I always thought that she's saying she wrote most of her songs about just being madly in love with a podcaster. That's what I got. Yeah, that's true. It's whatever you want it to be. But I'm glad that you enjoyed it, Big Tea.

I can't wait for my experience. It was a pretty good show. It was a good show. A lot of lights. I will be having multiple outfits, probably. It's a good time. And she's into that sort of thing. I'm into it.

Big T, you got to see the news. Yeah. Yeah. It was, uh, I'm told that was a huge announcement. Um, it seems to me that if you know she's re-recording every one of her albums, it's not that big. Like, you know they're all coming out. So it didn't seem like a big deal to me.

I'm told it was a huge deal. You were at a historic evening. It does make me, it made me feel better about all the money that I spent that on TikTok I saw all these comments that were like, if I see anybody that was at Nashville night one, I'll fucking kill you. Yeah. Like that made me, that made me feel like, okay, well, I guess all this money was worth it then. Gia Mariano and I were watching TikTok lives of it, like, while it was happening. We were, we were sitting measly on a couch. You were there. It was a historic evening. You were at the most historic night of the concert or of the tour so far. She started to do this. She's like, so I have this like, special announcement and she started to go into it and my buddy and i were like we what we wanted it to be was that tim mcrawl was going to come out i thought that's what was going to sing tim mcgrawl and i was going to be like yes this is awesome and then it was that and i was like no it's really big it's a really big deal you don't get it but it's a really really big deal i'm really excited what album is she is she re-releasing speak now is the next one speak now that's right

that one so speak now that's essentially a pop punk album there's like six or seven pop punk songs on that album as they're written right now yeah story of us is a pop punk song yes I love story of us good job big T or BFT yeah no you can call me big T I'll be I'm big T for this episode

better than revenge yeah yeah I want to do a pop punk like EP and just have it be like story what's the name of the album I speak now speak now speak now Scooter's version and then We'll just do like a pop-punk version of it. Yeah.

But just change all the words to make it sympathetic towards Scooter Braun. It's a big deal and you got and you got to see Phoebe Bridgers perform nothing new with her, which is also a really big deal. And you got to see Boy Genius. Totally. So you were there at probably the best night you could have been. Maybe not for you, but for. I mean, I'm glad it was it was the best one.

I'm jealous. I'm extremely jealous. She did sparks fly. And teardrops on my guitar. I feel like that'd be up your alley Oh yeah I like that one Yeah And Sparks Fly is a great song

And you didn't get rained on Yeah it actually did rain for like two minutes During Sparks Fly Which is awesome Which was cool But that was it It's like God knows Yeah

I'm sure God is a Swifty As we discussed earlier During purple rain at the Super Bowl That was sick Yeah The only part it made me mad was she has a song I was previously unfamiliar with called The Man, part of which says, I'm so sick of running as fast as I can, wondering if I'd get there

quicker if I was a man. We just discussed the $1.1 billion. She's earning in ticket revenue on this tour. Pal, if you were a man, you'd be an electrician. Okay? She's one of the richest women in the history of the United States. And then she later sang a song about her $18 million. beach home in that same concert. So that was the last great American dynasty. Good song. PFTY You are quite the Swifty. I like Taylor Swift. I think she's very talented. But I also

think that she's kind of full of shit. And she's done a really good job in marketing and rallying her fan base around her cause to support her. Yes. I mean, I've followed. I've followed for it. Like Taylor Swift, if you were to ask her, she's like, I'm the biggest underdog in the history of the world.

She has. I've gotten such a raw deal out of it. She is, Kyler Murray saying, like nobody ever believed in me, the Gatorade National High School Player of the Year, five-star recruit, Heisman Trophy winner number one overall NFL draft pick. Like, that is her. I want to take all the dudes she dated. It takes a serious amount of talent for people to, like, hear that whole story, know what she sings about, know her background, and still be like, yeah, you tell him, Taylor,

nobody believe you except me. I'm your only fan of the world. That's the impact that she has, like, across her fan base. They all think, like, I'm the biggest fan of you that there ever could be. It does take, like, to get people to buy into that, though, it is impressive. Yes, yes, absolutely. I really want to take all the dudes she dated, put them in, like, a focus group or like a, like, and just hear what the fuck's wrong. Like, like, what's the common denominator that cause all this?

And like, yeah, I'm the problem. It's me. Like, I want to hear, like, what the fuck is the, like, the actual problem with all these. And God forbid she's a bit toxic. She might be, like, abusive. I don't put that on her. No, she might hit these dudes and just never gets out. I'm just saying.

It's not rude, but what if we find out that she was beating the hell out of all these guys? She's not beating people. Like, she's worse than Chris Brown. Like,

we don't know. She's not worse than Chris Brown. These guys might even- She all keep leaving. Yeah. I mean, like, it's always the ones

that you least suspect. Like she's so charming and everybody loves her. Oh, like little Taylor couldn't hurt a fly. Little Taylor's, you know, like throwing, uh,

she's not that tall. Yes, she is. She's like pretty tall. Five ten. Okay, but anyway, she's not that like, I don't know. But, like, she, this is going to be a perfect situation of these dudes getting beat up and just, they can't say anything.

Yeah, I agree, Billy. You should get them all. You should lock him in a basement with a keg and just have them start sharing stories with you. Yeah. Get to the bond. I'm not going to take that Taylor beats her boyfriend, Slander. That's definitely now I'm not going to take. But what if that comes out and she just has NDAs and paid them all off with her tons of money.

That's not. There's so many. She could be a serial abuser and we just have no idea. Oh, my God. She's like, she's like Dan Bilzerian for chicks, basically. You've listened. Listen to all too well 10 minute version, you know that's not the case. Look, I'm a huge Taylor fan, but no one's thought of that. She might be beating these men. She's not. She's not beating

these men. I mean, she could be like doing stuff that like abused where like they can't even see it and like it's like terrible. Like she knows to like when she beats a guy, like how to make sure that it can't be seen. Oh my God. They're on public. Like there's serial abusers like that. We just don't know. I know there are, but I'm not going to put that on Taylor Swift. There's a lot Listen, 10-minute version of All Too Well as a banger, but it's also the entire song is like, oh, poor me. Look, here's another instance where I've got done wrong. And again, this is more like she's, she's taking down notes when she's dating a guy of every single small detail every time he fucks up in the slightest or even a perceived fuck up to her. If he's like five minutes late, she's like, well, you didn't communicate that very well.

I actually learned. I noticed what your keychain said when you laid it down on my desk. I learned this weekend that back to December is about Taylor Lawtoner. Yeah. And that's the only song she ever has where she talks about how she fucked up. Imagine how good that guy must have been to get Taylor Swift to be like, damn, I fucked up. No, I have two things. I have two things to say.

One, she has written several songs about how she's the issue. That's the only one I've ever heard. Anti-hero is literally, it's me high. Yes, she's being sarcastic. No, there are a lot of songs where she's like, I have done wrong. to Vigilante shit Afterglow

Afterglow Vigilante shit is a banger But also shows she's got Like an evil side She could do some like That was If you want to look up on TikTok That was probably the best part

Of the concert visually If you just read the lyrics To Mastermind You're like this girl's a psychopath Oh yeah Yeah Also I actually

Billy's right I think Maybe you didn't go far enough Billy Yeah Taylor might be a serial killer Yeah Where the hell's Taylor Lawner? I haven't seen him in years.

He's married to another Taylor. Good point. Good point, Billy. I haven't seen him either. Taylor Lawtoner was shirtless everywhere. Now where is he? He's married to another woman named Taylor. Uh-huh. Sure. Also, I'm going to put it out there for all of you guys.

I just want you to know that Taylor Swift is not that crazy because every girl you've ever dated has also been taking notes about what you do. Just so you know. Like, and then not even maybe in a notes app or maybe in a notes app if you're that awful. but like mastermind is like that's intense but every girl like there's variations of it like to actually try to draw Taylor Swift fans and she's a role model

or then you text your friends and then you text your friends and you're like oh my god is it weird that that like Billy just did this to me or is it weird that Big T said this to me that's all happened to you whether you know it or not your girlfriends of the past have have texted their friends being like is it weird that so and

did this to me and like that is what that is happening whether you like it or not you are getting talked about behind your back and Taylor Swift is just has the balls to write songs about it and make a billion dollars off of it okay that that wasn't the point though it's that it's happened again and again are you talking about how she's had more than one boyfriend and she's 33 years old no and again and again and again yep and seemingly it seems it seems at this point like she may have been cheating on her last boyfriend

you said this to me this morning with this new guy I rebuke who they've already said they love each other Big Tee you are falling into the trap of the daily mail They've been they've been broken up for three weeks

and she's already got this new guy and they're telling each other at each of their concerts It was like Thursday and Friday Maddie Healy he's the lead singer of a band called the 1975 he at one of their shows

he looks into the camera and mouths um you know who you are this is about you you know who you are i love you and then performed a song taylor swift at the concert i was out on friday night looks into the camera before she does a song says this is for you you know who you are i love you and he was at all of the concerts this weekend yeah i rebuked the cheating allegations a month a month if they started dating the day after she broke up with this guy that's a little soon to say you i love you in my personal opinion so it's it stands to reason But that's publicly broken up. This could have been going on.

McKenzie, that's what I said. I said, Big T. Just because the news broke on April 10th does not mean they broke up April 9th. That could be true. They could have been broken up for weeks and months and you didn't know. She is a public relations genius and knows when she needs to. Doesn't seem like it. Yeah, she's fine.

She knows when things need to be broken. I'm not saying that Maddie Healy and her are dating and I'm not saying that they, I don't know what they are. They just might be fooling around a little bit. Cheers. I love you. We also don't know that that's real. Or not like towards. It could be deep fake.

Yeah. Deep fake. Is there a conspiracy theory? Taylor Swift conspiracy theories? This actually goes to another thought I had during the concert, though, as I looked around. What would Taylor Swift have to do to get canceled? Because she's in my mind.

She is Trump level. Like Trump was correct when he said. said it and she could say it and be correct they could walk into the middle of fifth avenue shoot somebody and the stadium would be full the next day yeah that's a good question i no if she if she killed somebody i think that people would be like yeah good job taylor it was self-defense yeah he was emotionally he was emotionally abusive to you taylor yeah job he was emotionally abusing you by by breaking up with you kill i don't know it would have to take a lot for her to get canceled like she

She'd have to be in jail. No, she would probably take, like, violence against a cat on videotape. If she, like, strangled a cat. Yeah, if, well, no, it'd have to be worse than what Hasbola did. Yeah. Like a puppy, if she was out on Epstein's Island, no one would care. A lot of people on Epstein's Island and no one cares. Yeah, true.

Also, she wasn't. It would be like the Trump thing. It'd be like the Trump thing. Everybody would be like, oh, she was probably only there to rescue the girls. she's got a great business model going though more power to her i mean it's it must be a great gig i can't wait for my for my time in the sun anyway i think lana del ray is a much better creative well they have a song together tell her yeah but you could tell like lavender hayes is a not great song you can tell that taylor swift was like intimidated by having laura on the song so only kept her to like background vocals

100% it's her song it's her album right but Lana is like Lana's featured that's how that No, but Lana totally intimidates Taylor. I can 100% to it. Taylor is totally intimidated by Lana because Taseway is fake and Lana is real. That's why. What makes you think that's the thing? Lana Del Rey is... I love Lana.

She's totally intimidated. Taylor Swift knows she's a fraud compared to Lana Del Rey. Yeah. Why? Because Lana does more hard drugs or something? No. She just has a better story. And yeah.

Lana is definitely a way better artist, singer, I'd even say. and musician. I do like Lana's voice. Okay, maybe you guys can help me because I'm a little bit behind on my Taylor Swift News. Why again, what's the deal with her master's being owned

by somebody else and why is everybody supporting her? As opposed to like every other artist that's gone through this? Her masters were bought by Scooter Braun or famously known as, you know, Justin Bieber's manager. And so basically she can no longer,

those aren't her records anymore. So in a business move of the century, she said, fuck Scooter Braun, I'm just going to re-record and re-release all of my albums. Like there was a period of time where she couldn't do that. Like there was a non-compete, I guess, type of thing. And now as those come up, she is re-recording all of her albums so that she owns the masters of those and basically takes back all of her albums. And they're getting re-released every couple months, I guess, I would call it.

but they're getting basically it's like her being like fuck you scuba brown no one's going to listen to the old albums when they have new albums and then she's releasing new songs that were never released on these albums to have a bigger pull i don't get scuderbrons got close to a billion dollars why does he care about keeping no he bought her old record label which owned the songs and then so sold them for like a couple hundred million dollars i think and she didn't like like that that that that never made sense to me like somebody else owned them before him right she just like doesn't like him for some reason uh i don't know how that all works my understanding was he bought her the record label that owned them so he then owned them but she owned the record label that doesn't seem true to me because then why would she sell them to him or wait if she doesn't Actually, actually, actually, I'm having a Billy moment. Hold on. What I think happened is, is something that happens, unfortunately, quite a bit in the music industry,

which is the rights to your masters and to your recordings get bought and sold by big conglomerates or by super rich people. But Taylor was the first one to figure out how to monetize it for itself, which is, again, very, very smart on her part. Yes, some 17 months after Scooter Bronze Ithaca Holdings acquired big machine label, group and all of its recorded music assets. Sources tell variety the veteran manager and entrepreneurs sold the master rights to Taylor Swiss first six albums. The buyer and investment fund is yet unknown, but the deal is believed to be north of $300 million.

Oh, also, she didn't know about the deal being done until it was made announced to the, or was announced to the public. So she didn't even have time to process that on her own. I mean, okay. It wasn't her. She didn't own it. It wasn't her deal to make. It's her music.

Did the Beatles have time to process it when Michael Jackson bought all shit. Is that a thing? I didn't know that. Yeah. Michael Jackson once also bought Eminem shit after he dissed him on who's back. That's the power move. Taylor also just then was like, okay, fuck you. I'm just going to make a billion more dollars on my songs that I already didn't make. It's smart. It's smart. I'm not like there. There's, I mean, fuck it. And I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. You were, you, you, you love Taylor Swift. Maybe more than anybody in the world. No. Kelly Kiegs trumps me. I think you love her more than Kelly. But like we said, every Taylor Swift fan loves her more.

I'm just here. Guys, it's, I'm just here. I'm the one that has to defend her. me and McKenzie in this moment in time. It's like you got, it's like you got to, you got to defend her. Kelly Keeves and Gia, like Mariano, we all sit there. We text every night being like, okay, what songs are played tonight? Like, following every move. Yeah, you guys are a cult. That's fine. But we've sat here. and said she's like an unbelievable business woman does a great show and then y'all are any like little nitpicky thing y'all like no she actually doesn't do that i don't know no no i don't know like too much but i don't like her lipstick okay i don't love a bold red maybe sometimes either oh wow you hate her lipstick too no i didn't say that i think it looks good on her speaking of crazy blondes

do we want to get into elizabeth holmes yeah it's good segue billy Also another blonde with a great voice who keeps reinventing herself. This was nuts. A shrewd businesswoman. If you haven't seen the New York Times article talking about Liz Holmes once you forget about Elizabeth,

the black turtlenecks are gone. So is the voice. As the convicted Theranos founder awaits prison, she has adopted a new persona, devoted mother. Yeah, this was a wild rebrand. You will be surprised to learn the New York Times is once again promulgating fake news.

I want to know how these articles get written. Like, does Elizabeth Holmes have like a ton of money and like pays in New York Times to do like a total like... Based on the article, I don't think she has any money. So the way that I think it goes down,

Billy, is that there are a lot of news organizations that have been trying to get an exclusive with Elizabeth Holmes, right? For the past, however many years. It's been, everybody's been trying to get an interview with her and to get that exclusive because it's going to result in massive amounts of page views and notoriety for whoever writes it. And then I think what happens

is Elizabeth Holmes knows that she has, she's in demand as an interview, right? So she can then be picky and choose what author she wants to do that she'll say yes to. So she can look into all the backgrounds of the different reporters, see who might be more favorable to her. Maybe somebody that doesn't have like a super strong like business background or somebody that hasn't covered like fraud in Silicon Valley and all that stuff and you pick somebody that you think will be sympathetic to you and what you're going through and then you just butter them up big time like you guys you you you show them the best side of you you start to be like a family person and you let them see you as an individual and the reporters will be so enthralled and engrossed in getting that access

that they almost feel like they can't write anything that bad about you because they've got to spend so much time with you as like a one-on-one individual that now they can't go back and think of you as that same person who committed mass amounts of fraud and put people's lives in danger just because you wanted to be the next giant entrepreneur. I mean, she got Amy Chosick is the author's name in her living room

and knew she had found the one. Because this woman, I mean, couldn't wait to, I mean, just absolutely philate? Is that a word? Can you use that as a verb? Phalate? Like, filatio? No, like, for a female? No. Oh, like sex her. Yes, Elizabeth Holmes. If you can use that as a verb, that she couldn't wait to do it. To lingis her? Yeah. It was insane how, there wasn't a bad word about her in there. Can we just, also, she had kids to stay out of prison. Like, that's so fucked. Like, those kids,

Kind of like Taylor Swift, smart move from a business standpoint. Does Taylor Swift? No, she doesn't have kids. No, but I'm saying like Elizabeth Holmes, I think we're going to see more and more similarities between her and Taylor Swift. And like she, say what you want about her as a fraudster. But the idea of having two kids to delay your prison sentence, genius. Elizabeth Holmes, please come on macrodosing. We'd love to have you.

Has she reported a prison yet? She's going to get 11 years. She's 11 and a quarter. And she, like, appealed and, like, having those kids, that's so, like, such a terrible thing, like, just. Yeah, I know, because I, yeah. There was a part of the article where she was like, it pains me to think about what I'll miss in those 11 years. Did she carry the children? Yes.

Okay. Because she was pregnant in her trial. The article is her trying to humanize herself and explaining what she went through in her life. She has suffered some trauma. She was sexually assaulted while she was in college. that's obviously like a big part of her and it's led to some of the decisions she's made in terms of like trying to create a new personality for herself that that part I definitely buy into but there's a lot of other stuff where she like says Sonny Balwani he was a C-O

she blames him essentially for everything and she looks at her time spent at Theranos as being part of a cult and she's like I'm finally getting to step away and like break free from the cold it's like bitch you were the cult. She said she was like, I'm the cult leader. Like, uh,

yeah, no shit, Sherlock. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's her. So,

uh, it's actually, it's very similar like, Scooter Braun, Sunny Bowani. Now we're all feeling bad for Liz Holmes. Yeah. She should re-release the,

uh, the Edison machine. The Edison. Yeah. Liz's version. Yeah. But I, I,

I don't understand. And how there was no, like, not a single criticism ever. Yeah. Like, nothing. And even the, even the author was like, my editor told me, oh, you got, you got fooled. And it's like, oh, no, I don't think so. It's like, yeah, you did. I screenshotted that part.

Oh, my God. I was admittedly swept up in Liz as an authentic and sympathetic person. She's gentle and charismatic in a quiet way. My editor laughed at me when I shared these impressions telling me, quote, Amy Choswick, you got rolled. I vigorously disagreed. You don't know her like I do. But then something very strange happened.

I worked my way through a list of Ms. Holmes' friends, family, and long-time supporters whom she and Mr. Evans suggested I speak to. One of these friends said Ms. Holmes had genuine intentions at Theranos and didn't deserve a lengthy prison sentence. Then this person requested anonymity to caution me not to believe everything Ms. Holmes says. It's literally a blinking light that says, hey, this convicted felon who lies about everything, the people who know her say don't believe her,

but I still do. Yeah, it's also weird that this reporter is writing herself into the story so much, isn't it? Yeah. Like making yourself a part of it. You shouldn't do that when it comes to a profile like this. Or if you do, it should be like passing and fleeting. She's a crush on her.

Yeah, it sounds like it. You remember, did you guys see that the Netflix series that they did on that redheaded fake Russian billionaire eras? Anna Delvey. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it sounds a lot like how that entire show is written where it's like from the perspective of the reporter and the reporter's like taking you through all the steps of getting to like

introduce herself to her and how she's feeling based on what the subject of the piece is is putting her through. That's kind of what's happening in this in this article. It should be you shouldn't, this should not be a story of the relationship between the author of the puff piece. and the receiver of the pup feast, you know? It should be, there should be not to get all big tea on you. Like I remember when the news was news, right?

Yeah, I do too. There was one other part I wanted to read. I thought this was just the absolute most ridiculous thing I'd ever read. I realized that I was essentially writing a story about two different people. There was Elizabeth celebrated in the media as a rock star inventor whose brilliance dazzled illustrious rich men and whose criminal trial captivated the world. Then there's Liz as Mr. Evans and her friend's caller, the mom of two who, the past year has been volunteering for a rape

crisis hotline who can't stomach R-rated movies and who rushed after me one afternoon with a paper towel to wipe a mix of sand and her dog's slobber off my shoe Like she's so nice, she's so sweet I could tell that this woman is definitely of the same ilk

as Elizabeth Holmes and that's probably why she was chosen dumb as hell? No, just like I don't think Elizabeth Holmes is dumb. That's true. So like sociopathic yeah like she disconnected from reality delusional i think that well the way that she's making it all about her i think she wants people to sort of like i just think it's a bad article i don't think she's like a no there's a certain narcissism in the article and inserting yourself in the article about uh elizabeth holmes yeah she does make it about the the most relatable piece to me is

when she talked about how she had like a mastiff that was cool well did you I saw that and I was like, Liz is pretty cool. I like Liz. No, but did you see that her dog, Balto, the one from the movie, got killed by a Mount Lion? Yeah. And she went searching for the Mount Lion. She went searching for 16 hours in the woods. Fuck, no, I didn't see that.

Yeah. Which is crazy because that's like, that's the one from the show, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, she like bought it in the series. Anyway, I'm like, if Elizabeth Holmes really loved that dog, she would have gone out there with a gun trying to kill the Mount Lion. But that's not what happened. okay i'll say this um it sounds like her husband's going to have are they husband wife or boyfriend i forget husband her husband's going to have a hard time it's a lot of work he's going to have two kids to look after while she's in prison mastiffs can be tough to look after

like that can be a lot of work especially if you've got two little ones running around i would like to offer up my services to adopt liz holmes's mastiff when she goes to prison i'll take that dog I will look after it. I'll wipe slabber off people's shoes. I'm very familiar with that. I've been down that road. I got a proven track record as a dog owner and a used dog salesman. I will take that dog.

It's going to be, you won't be able to handle it on your own husband, okay? So send it over to me. Do you think the reason you got a massive was the only dog that probably could take him out, lion? Maybe. Wait, this isn't the dog that got killed, right? No, no, it's not.

It's a new, new dog. Okay. So they probably like, well... Oh, they're like, if it happened once, it could happen again. Yeah, so no small dogs for getting a fucking mast. I think it would, it would, like, intimidate a mountain line. I don't think that a mountain line would fuck with a mastiff because it's too big. Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Also, speaking of fraternity sororities, she was in a sorority, which I didn't know. That's the beginning of your cult. Like, she probably, like, learned everything from there. Quick question. Did she say she doesn't drink in the, articles she said she never had opened a bottle of wine in her life don't they have her drinking throughout the

the documentary and then when she was at uh does uh fucking burning man isn't that part of it like i don't know uh she was 32 and had never opened a bottle of wine Elizabeth lived in complete isolation with sunny well she never opened a bottle of wine oh is that like a expression like she literally.

No, I think it meant literally. Like other people open the bottle of wine for her. So she's like waiting on hand and foot. Okay. Is that she was a fronzieer girl. She was straight out of the bag. Yeah.

Oh, Jesus. We should. Oh, man. She probably was. I think that her problem, much like Billy McFarland's problem and a few other people that we've seen in the news recently is that they just,

they go through college and they want to be an entrepreneur. They get sucked into the, like CEO grindset mindset and they're like, you know what? I don't know what I want to do, but I just want to be CEO. I want to be the boss. I want to be an inspiration to people that look up to me and then they want to become a CEO later. But they don't really have anything that they're super, super genuinely passionate about. Like she says that she cared about, you know, getting this blood testing machine that could change the way that medicine's done.

I think she just thought that would be a great idea and that would propel her to be a, a big boss girl and be like CEO inspiration to women coming up through the tech ranks after her, which yeah, I guess that's a cool thing to have, but you also have to have a good product and something that you're good at and something that you believe in and not just be like, I want to be an entrepreneur. That's my, that's my career aspiration, because that's not a real aspiration that people have. They have solutions in search of problems. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, in theory, her product that she came up with, if it worked, would change the world for the better, for sure. Correct. The problem is it doesn't exist. Right. Like you start from the back, like you said, of being the CEO and then work your way or start

and work your way backwards of like, well, we'll figure something out that will allow me to do that. And she also said in the thing that she's going to keep, she's still going to disrupt the healthcare industry and shit from jail. And like she's not going to stop making stuff, which is like what Billy McFarland said. she's not going to stop making. She should start making something. Yeah, they said, it said, I don't have it in front of me, but it said she was going to keep, you know, being an entrepreneur from jail. And that she still think she can make an impact in the healthcare industry. I think she has made an impact in the healthcare industry.

I think that, like, there's more guardrails that are in place now for fraud, just because people don't want to find themselves in the same situation that she's. been in and companies that work with people are probably like more cautious like wall greens probably won't just get in business with somebody because they've got a cool deep voice in a black turtleneck anymore dude i keep thinking about how awesome her product would have actually been if like it was real because as someone who's kind of uh trying to figure out why i've been breaking out into random hives uh like getting the blood tests and shit if i if all i had to do is just like do that and get so many more panels instead of having to like figure out

like which allergen or it's crazy but yeah I think that's what people if Elizabeth Holmes the product was so alluring and from that angle like people really wanted that to be true

I think that's an aspect that gets overlooked like the product was so amazing that I think it made a lot of people overlook her leadership and whether it was real or not because I want that to be true. Yeah, she was just like, here's a box that solves all your problems.

And people are like, yes. Like, if I was like, here's a beer that doesn't get you hung over and hurt your gains, you want to believe me. Like, like, wow, he definitely has a solution, a beer that doesn't make you hang over and doesn't kill your gains. And that would be amazing, but it's just impossible. It's called protein. I'm still waiting to invent that.

I'm watching. It's not the protein part. It's the hormonal effect that it has on muscle synthesis. I'm watching a video of the prison that she's going to. It looks like a country club. What is the prison? It is the federal detention center in Bryan, Texas. Federal prison camp, Brian.

I would go to a country club prison. It's kind of such bullshit that conjugal visits exist in prison. I mean, What did you just say? Like. That what visit? Conjugable visits. What's that?

You like her husband can come visit her and they get like put in like a hotel. Like kind of. They get put in a hotel? That's like I don't know. Isn't it just like another room? Yeah. To have sex? Yeah.

Is that what? Do you think that's actually a bad thing? I don't know. I think it's a good thing. I think it's a good thing. But it's also kind of like like that almost seems like too nice. That's the end. Self talking Billy.

No, no. If I can't get late, how come prison? No, come, stop, stop, stop. But, Intel's are terrifying. Anyway, just like,

Billy wants to take it back to the days when prison was hardcore. Yeah, like, Oz. Metal bench. No bed with cheats. They like TikTok in there nowadays. Yeah.

Like, guys have TikToks in prison. Jackson and homes. Yeah, prison. Oh, yeah. He's going to be talking. Prison weights are definitely heavier than normal weights. there's so much steroids in prison it's sick

yeah like these guys are like smuggling roids in and getting jacked that's wild also did you see that her you might have mentioned this while I was gone for a second that her attorney was like she made mistakes but mistakes

are not crimes and it's like some of them are huh some of them are yeah there are there are crimes when you're when you're indicted and then convicted of said crimes the thing is she there's so many ways she's trying to like get out all wrongdoing

like she's pulling a lot of strings to get sympathy also getting back to the jail thing I think it's more that jail just sounds even more like I kind of think jail would be fun to go for like a month come on bill just to lift like just

focus on gym you get conjugal visits could play pickup basketball you don't really have to work hang out with the rows of guys right you are dressed to go play basketball because you said you're going to play basketball for five hours when we get done recording

and I guess you couldn't change in between I literally play pickup basketball until the sun goes down because it's just so nice you know like you could you could just wear normal clothes to work and then you could change before you go I'm going to work out after this

I just buy a change of clothes I know but it was nice out I was just feeling it's more of like a less laundry yeah yeah and then also people around the office are like yo Billy why are you dressed like that oh well I'm going to play

five hours of basketball. And that literally, that did literally happen. Max came in and was like Billy nice sleeves and he was like yeah, I'm going to play basketball after this. I just, I mean, there's no point in me to change. I could go to work just like this. I'm also

showing off the new amazing macrodose tank. That is a sick tank. Yeah, it's sick tanks, perfect for summer. July 4th is coming up. Is that actually new? It's, I don't know if it's new. We have been in the store, though. But really when you wear macrodosing merch, it just shows everyone that you're like down to

talk about cool shit that might be a little out there so if you're looking for like-minded people like get some macrodosing merch we don't have that in the store by the way fuck that's do we have any the tank tops that's fake news uh there are no tanks currently we got to get the tanks a couple of tight eyes good tie-dye shirts the the fourth of july one which is my personal favorite one is is back there's the the frog hoodie there's going to be a crazy fourth of july shirt coming out it's going to be wild. Let me read the, it's going to be like U.S. presidents with machine guns on dinosaurs fighting Bigfoot, I think. We're aliens, aliens. That is true. Pilar said she would appease Billy with this shirt. It's going to be sick. When it drops, it's probably going to be. Wait,

I need to know, I need to know which presidents. I, Teddy, like all the cool ones. Keep going Keep going Teddy Roosevelt There's There's both sides of the aisle Teddy Roosevelt at all Yeah

Teddy Roosevelt's the highlight But we had Don't keep going I want to hear I want to hear Just like the president I put on that Imagine

I'm trying to find the email Because he sent a He sent like a fake mock of it To Pilar Pilar basically told McKenzie and I this morning In our merch meeting I'm just going to make this shirt just to appease Billy

and make him feel better. It's going to be sick. Oh, yeah, here it is. Is Jimmy Carter on there? George Washington, Ben Franklin, Teddy Roosevelt, Obama, Reagan, Lincoln, riding dinosaurs, carrying machine guns, fighting alien invaders on the moon. And then there's some inspiration in the mockup. I'll put see like that.

Ben Franklin, your favorite president? Not a president. I just thought he would be very non-controversial throw in there. But wait, wait, you need to tell Pilar that we need to put the American flag on the moon in like a couple, like the thing we left on the moon. So it's like, because I remember the moon's pretty fucking American because we got there first. Right. Just make sure that we're defending it because it's ours from the aliens. Okay, perfect.

I'll let her know. Yeah. And, yeah, it's going to be really cool. But when that drops, I mean, that's got to sell thousands, if not millions. we got to have taft in there somewhere sitting in a bathtub yeah no but make the bathtub in a bathtub

on the moon make the bathtub a spaceship so he's just like nobody could steal it because he's holding it down yeah yeah it's a lot going on on the shirt yeah this came to me in a fever dream

shocking how many how many man hours were put into developing this like the artwork for the shirt I wonder it sounds like a pretty complicated drawing oh we have not drawn it yet that will be a different time. Well, there's not drawings, but there's photos. I'll see

if I can put them in the YouTube. I don't know if they're licensed photos, so we might not be able to. I just got a bunch of several mock-ups of stuff you could mix together to get the product I want. Totally. Got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll send them in our group chat at least. All right.

Good, good sewed. Do we want to get to the other article or no I think we talk about that on Thursday show by the way an awesome UFO documentary I think is either just dropped

or dropped recently about like a very like a very convincing argument for aliens that I think people have been requesting it it's about I forget what it's called Brazil

yeah it's about Brazil I think it would be fun for us to watch Thursday okay I'm down to talk about Brazilian aliens? Yeah. Because I long, my biggest, my biggest problem with aliens and their depiction in movies is they've always got the flattest asses of all time. So hopefully these aliens have,

have some junk in the trunk. Yeah. The Brazilian. All right. We will see you guys. We'll see you guys on Thursday. Thank you for tuning in to nanodosing. Arrian had a sick child today. So he's taking care of some puk. Good dad. Good dad that Aryan Foster. Yeah, Billy? What? I just wanted to clarify something. The rattlesnake, I told a story about rattlesnakes and I take reptiles very seriously and I think I may have made a mistake. I was in Maine. Looking back doing some research at what I thought was a diamond back rattlesnake, I think may have been a timber rattler. And I know that

that there's not, they're supposed to be extinct in Maine. And I know there's been a lot of discussion amongst the herpetological macrodosians. Oh yeah. I'm sure. And they're all angry. Yeah. But I'm going to call my cousin who he's an older guy who live there and ask him because he, I think he does have rattlesnakes on his farm. And they're like very

rare. But I'm going to tell him to report it to whichever body needs to know that there's still timber rattlers in Maine. because I think he's found them and they're very rare, but they're not supposed to be there. Also, I... All right. So, thank you for addressing that head on, Billy, because it's been a big concern of mine.

No, we've been getting a lot of points. I can't tell you how many DMs I've gotten for people being like, tell Billy that this is a timber rattler, not a diamond-back rattlesnake. It's actually would be a very big discovery if there's still timber rattlers in Maine because they're not supposed to be there. And I know, you know what? I did see a rattlesnake. There was a rattle. I did not get confused about what type of snake. I did get confused whether it was a diamond back or timber, rather, I guess, you know.

But I'm going to look into it. We actually have a senior Maine correspondent, actually a former member of this show. Yeah. Coley. Coley lives in Maine. So I'm going to FaceTime Coley real quick and see if I can get comment from him. Where can you find this picture, Billy? It's not a picture.

I remember when I was in seven, I found a, rattlesnake under a woodpile in Maine and when did you talk about it i think uh last week okay all right i'm going to facetum coli real quick also i said that mongolians were one of the first people to use horses in war and i know they're one like they they perfected it i meant i was i know there was there was other societies that use horses in war much earlier than the mongols but you got to say that their hordes were the most the best marksman archers on horseback and they definitely revolutionized horse warfare. I think stirrups, yeah,

stirrups. They were the first ones with stirrups so that they could balance themselves in the saddle while shooting arrows. That was another thing I wanted to get corrected on top of the timber radler comment. A lot of angry people were about that. Okay.

All right, well, I'm glad that we addressed that. I'm asking Coley right now, but we'll have an update. So how's that for Cliffhanger for Thursday's episode? We will get an update from Coley on what type of rattlesnake Billy may have found when he was a kid underneath a woodpile in Maine. Can't wait. All right.

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