Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Why Chemtrails Are The Most Believable Conspiracy Theory
Episode Date: July 13, 2023On today’s episode Arian, Big T and Billy get into the Chemtrail conspiracy theory. The chemtrail conspiracy theory is the belief that long-lasting condensation trails left in the sky by high-flying... aircraft are actually "chemtrails" consisting of chemical or biological agents, sprayed for nefarious purposes undisclosed to the general public.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing
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Buttons are kind of wild when you think about it.
I've never just thought about buttons.
I thought a lot about buttons.
Stabby, stab.
What?
What, bro?
Okay, hang on, hang on.
Everybody stop.
I want to dig into both of what y'all just said because they're both very interesting to me.
All right, everybody, welcome back to the Macro Dosa podcast.
I am your one and only host, Erin Foster.
And I'm with me with my lovely crew, PFT.
Nope, he's not here.
I'm with my man, Billy, Big T, Maddie, Mac.
We all chilling.
PFT gone.
He, I think it was Bahamas, Baruga, Aluga.
He's in Baruga.
he's straight up no-showed i i have to say that was pretty he he can do it he can do it
but that was a pretty blatant if if i did something like that i mean hey say right after a week
off too yeah yeah talk that shit billy he's uh accountable i'm just saying he's he's drinking
a lot of novelty drinks nowadays you know hmm i don't know what does that mean yeah i'm i'm you know
I'm fairly well-versed in the money game.
I know when people are starting to get money,
they're starting to hide it.
He's having trouble hiding it right now.
You know what I'm saying?
Well, he was never good at hiding it.
No, he's getting worse.
I'm saying he's getting worse.
He's getting worse at hiding that money right now, man.
That's what happens.
He's in places I can't even pronounce right now.
You get enough of it.
You run out of hiding places.
That's bad.
You only have so many mattresses.
I heard he's done.
Shoot box money, man.
I'm going to start busting out the scene.
Yo, I heard he's going to make an offshore bank account.
That's what he's doing.
He's probably a good move for him.
He's in Barugula or Arugula drinking on some whatever.
That's crazy.
There's no extradition in Barugula.
I can fit all my money under one twin-sized mattress.
He's got four kings and it's spilling out.
Selling outside.
He got to take some shakes.
Baby, we got to take trips.
I can't.
I can't pay taxes on this.
That's what it's how I know.
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Well, I hope everybody doing good out there.
we're going to have a good show today, uh, regardless of, uh, PFT, um, neglect, but, uh,
just tapping in, man. How everybody feeling, man? Good, good. Uh, just came off a week of vacation.
It was pretty awesome. First time off since Christmas. So it was good to like get a couple
consecutive days in a row. This was your first consecutive days off since Christmas. Well, like holiday
wise. You know what I'm saying? I was about I say, didn't we just do it? You did a podcast, right?
I was like, my tripping? Yeah, wait, we did. We also have done a podcast since the break was over.
It's our first time being back altogether.
I know it feels like it though, really.
Yeah, because Sleepy Joe's on the beach and Mayor Pete's nowhere to be found.
Meanwhile, there's not an air traffic controller in the Northeast that's working.
That's facts.
Hey, hey, but if we, if we doing that, inflation down to 3%.
I'm just saying.
Okay.
That's better than where it was.
The rates are still.
I'm just going by the numbers.
if we if we if we if we if we if we blame a sleepy joe we got to we got to give us credit no all right let's
okay sure but as your money is getting back to being worth uh just a little bit less instead
of a lot less you can't get on an airplane that's true so pick your battles
I was always an advocate of public transit anyway I believe that we should spend more
infrastructure on public trade more tax money infrastructure on public transit um but I'm with you
on that with taxes the thousand percent the high speed rail we want the high
speed rail. Granted, it wouldn't have helped me a ton from Florida to New York, but it can get you
from New York to D.C. And I don't know how long. It's normally four hours. I'm sure the high
speed rail could do it a lot quicker. You know, the Great Lakes has a decent train system. Like,
you can get from New York City to Minneapolis with a couple stops in between. It's like,
it's not high speed and it's kind of a roundabout way, but you can still do it. Are you talking about
Amtrak? Yeah. I mean, Amtrak in the Northeast is
really good. That's why I think a lot of coastal elites push for the trains everywhere.
I don't think it's coastal elites, you said that kind of flippantly. I think it's, no, I was
halfway joking, but it's people who have experienced when you live in New York, you can take
the train to Boston, Philly, D.C. all very easily. And once people do that, they want trains everywhere,
which I agree, like having used Amtrak a bunch, having lived here, like it's pretty great. I have
I think it's just like the leisurely travel of it.
It's just, it's more convenient.
It's less stress because I still get anxiety when I fly as far as like, is this
bitch going to crash?
Even though I know the odds are low, it's still the turbulence fucks with me.
I know the turbulence fucks with a lot of people that the lines at the airport are crazy.
Like, it's just a better option.
I'm awful options.
I just give the people some options, sleepy Joe.
Real quick, what ever happened to the Transcontinental Railroad?
I don't know.
Lace me.
Didn't we build that shit just so we could go across the country in a train?
Several hundred years ago.
Yeah, but like what happened?
Like, did we just get rid of it?
I'm sure the tracks still exist somewhere, but...
Are we using it?
Why aren't we using it?
Because we have planes.
What the fuck happened to the Transcontinental Railroad?
My Transcontinental Railroad knowledge is limited, but let me do a quick...
Golden Steak. Golden Steak, we're going from the Sierra Nevada, I think.
What happened is that you can get from here.
to California in four hours instead of six days.
Transcontinental Railroad today.
It was built before the Silver War.
Oh, it's still in operation by the Union Pacific.
Yes, the same railroad that built it 150 years ago.
So if you know what the first Transcontinental Railroad was,
it was in APUS history.
And it was a big part of my life that I thought I would have to know about
because they taught in high school.
But from what I'm looking,
So it went from the Mississippi River and the U.S. Atlantic Coast.
That was where most of the it was, but they first made one from the Mississippi, the Pacific Railroad.
Okay.
So it linked the San Francisco Bay at Alameda, California with the nation's existing Eastern Railroad Network at Council Bluffs, Iowa, dash Omaha.
So that was the- Yeah, I went to Nebraska border and went all the way to the Bay Area, basically.
Yeah, so there is a way by train, not high-speople.
that I think you can get from New York to San Francisco.
I'm sure there is.
It would really suck.
You have to catch.
That suck is subjective.
I think a lot of people.
So, like, my mom and my stepdad, they love riding trains.
And I thought they was lame for the longest until I did it.
And I think I spoke about it was podcast before, but I was in the Northwest.
And I went from Portland to Seattle.
And it's like a, I don't know, three, two, three hour train ride or something like that.
And it's just one of the most relaxing things I've ever done.
And I've always said I wanted to do one like cross-country where we just backpacked.
But you have to a lot for that time.
You have to plan for that time to be on a train.
And what I like about it is while you want to train, you can enjoy your time there.
You can drink, you can have your little speaker, you can have music, you're playing cars,
you're chilling, playing whatever games you like.
You know what I'm saying?
You chill with people you enjoy it.
You're still getting that bonding time.
But it's the stress-freeness of airport and the plane and the turbulence and all that shit.
All that shit is gone.
a very smooth ride from my experience.
So I'm looking at right now, you can take a train
from Penn Station Moynihan Train Hall
that's two blocks away to Union Station
in Los Angeles, California, and it takes two days
in 19 hours, but you can do it and it costs $2,000.
So, U.S.?
Amtrak is like the train's expensive.
U.S. It's more expensive than flights sometimes.
And it has one transfer.
So I'm trying to figure out what that transfer is.
It'd be like Chicago.
Union Station Chicago.
So you can do it.
You can absolutely do it.
That's crazy that they're charging two grand.
Yeah, that's insane.
Oh, it actually leads to sit on a train for three days.
It leaves in two hours.
Even from here to Buffalo, it's like eight hours.
Hold on.
Hold on, Billy.
I just quit Google search this year.
It said, how much is it cost from New York to L.A. by trains?
That says minimum price, $444.
Average ticket price, $365.
Where are you getting too bad?
I will say if you're looking at one that leaves in two hours, that's probably going
to be more expensive than if you book it a few weeks out.
Trains a hell of inexpensive, man.
I don't know.
I don't know why.
I don't know why.
I just, I'm on this website Wanderoo, so I was pulling up that quickly.
So I don't know if it's actually that much.
For $400, that actually might be decent.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I'm telling you, dog, if you, if you got the time, it's really about time.
Because my experience, man, money gives you just freedom and it gives you luxury.
And so if you've got the time and you've got the companionship to want to have that time with somebody on the train, get on the train, man.
Can you sit for that?
Could you sit for three days?
Well, you don't sit for three days.
I know.
I know you can get up and, you know.
No, no, no.
What I'm saying is like, so they'll have like, because you have different stops.
That's what takes a long.
If it was just a straight shot, it would be way faster, but there's different stops.
So you'll stop in different cities.
People are coming on and off.
So somebody from San Antonio's going to Arizona, whatever the case may be.
So there's different stops like every other state or whatever.
And that's the beauty.
Like you get off and there's like 10, 15 minute rest stops where people are.
And that's the beauty.
You can, you don't got to go through all this, carry all these lines and shit.
You just hop on.
I showed up.
My plan left like at eight.
I showed up at like 750.
I was in and out, right?
But like every stop, you can get off, stretch your legs, throw a ball, whatever the case.
Have a smoke, whatever, you know what I'm saying?
Go inside.
some drinks, come back out, and then y'all back on it, y'all back on the train.
But for the most part, you're sitting on a train for three days.
But also, this is where luxury comes into play as well. I got the room. And so it was extremely
dope. They have these, they're small rooms, but it's like there's on two separate sides.
It's like this, right? You sit right here and right here, and your legs are facing each other.
But then you get to lay those things down and then it's just a bed.
And she literally could just lay down the old time.
I just like, I couldn't, I couldn't sit in my apartment for three days and not leave.
Like, if I, if I sit somewhere for more than, you know, eight to 12 hours, I got to go do something.
I pinned you as a hermit.
You're not a hermit.
I'm a hermit.
I can, like, I can sit in my apartment for a while and just like play video games, whatever.
But after a day, like, if all Saturday, like, if I don't leave my apartment on Sunday morning, I'm like, I need to go, you know,
get a coffee or something somewhere like I have to go do something I also feel like it's your
apartment is so small right now that you just get like you just get so stir crazy in there there's
no way for you no it's not no that is true I also have I also have it's not a slight my apartment's
smaller I have no windows so it's like pitch black in your whole apartment well they do but they
they face a brick wall that has other people's windows in it so I had to just put blackout
curtains on it because like I was staring at somebody from me to Madeline oh
Tell me, do you in any way try to make friends with that person?
Absolutely not.
No, but it's not, no, no, no, hang on, hang on.
It's not another apartment.
So the floor below is some sort of office.
And it's literally like from me to Madeline the building.
And they're in like an alley.
So it's not like across the street.
It's like from me to her.
Then the floor above is some sort of weird, gutted.
It legit looks like somewhere you would take somebody,
if you had killed them or two killed them.
There's a weird, like, single light, you know,
in movies, the little light bulb with the string on it.
It's literally that.
So it's vacant commercial.
Yeah, and it looks really creepy.
So finally after a while,
I was like, I'm just putting blackout curtains up over all my windows.
So in old New York,
if you talked to anyone that lived here in like the 80s,
there would be stories like that,
but they'd always be like, yeah,
there was this like group of girls,
like before camera phones,
they would be like on the building next to us
and they'd like flash us.
I know you were to say that.
But that's like, and you're like, no way.
That's like, you didn't do that when you were working on Wall Street in the 80s.
They're like, yeah, man, it was sick.
Like, the world was so different.
And that's like, cool.
Yeah, flashing has stopped.
Yeah, because.
It doesn't happen anymore.
No one flashes because of the iPhone.
I do think that nakedness is, we're desensitized to it for sure.
Like the naked neighbor.
Yeah, the naked neighbor.
Yeah, you heard about it.
Yeah.
But that's from friends.
Yeah.
See, it's like old New York lore
I feel like it's a jet like
Yeah, it's like a New York thing
But like I've also heard that if you don't have a naked neighbor
Like you're you might be the naked neighbor
Oh whoa
Yeah
Well the naked neighbor might not know they're naked in front of you
They might think that they're not seen
Exactly
I think I have that issue
Yeah me too
I'm you know what
I might be the naked neighbor
I think I'm the naked neighbor
I might be the boxer's neighbor
where I'm letting my dog out into my backyard
and everyone who's look can see my garden just sees me in my box oh see that's different because
you're physically outside you got a garden it's a it's you could call a garden you could call
what are you what are you growing uh weeds and i pick them don't think that's a garden is that is that
constituted garden i don't know the it's like it's it's no metrics i i don't plant anything it's just
an outdoor space that patio yeah kind of back but then i it's just like a little place where i have
like a barbecue and I like drink beers when it's nice out and then my dog takes
pisses yeah patio yeah okay like such a like a bro yeah like I'd go outside and
drink beers when it's nice outside oh the bro Billy is the bro king I think so thank you
like I appreciate yeah no I it's a title I figured you would be honored to have I have the bro king
yeah remember when we were in Tennessee like Billy was getting
recognized so much more than I ever thought imaginable because he was in the 18 to 22 year old
demo and they were flocking to him like he was Michael Jackson.
Hannah's old city could not get enough of Billy football. Yeah. I appreciate that. I'm going to
I try to keep small minded. So I'm going to appreciate that, but keep on doing me. What word?
What word were you trying to use there? Because it wasn't that. I don't know. I just get really scared
when I remember that like a lot of people know who I am trying to keep I'm trying to
figure out where he was going I see humble like humble yeah I think he's so I think he's
trying to say yeah maybe he's trying to is that it yeah humble small minded is an insult
well whatever humbling humbling self-inflicting yeah but uh cool uh the broking as I said
I remember we was outside of the library.
And, like, we, a couple people recognize this.
And me or whatever.
And, like, we were taking pictures.
And, like, in the distance, are you here?
It's like, oh, my God.
Oh, my God, bro.
Y'all remember that shit?
And, like, dudes come running us.
Like, we saw you were here.
We tweeted.
We ran all the way from, I don't know, some building.
I was like, yo, that's brazen.
Some dude gave me, like, a hundred yard head start on a chest bump.
and I had to wear that one
I just got the wind
knocked out of me but trying to keep it together
that's pretty dope
shout out those bros in Tennessee
Aaron you have a really good white guy voice
I was going to ask to have it done again
I got I got to what I mean
I was I was fluid and white dude
I'd be around a lot of white people
man so I understand y'all
I get it
so I mimic it well
maybe maybe like you know what I said
like that. I want that, though. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah. But yeah. The Dap wouldn't be that
clear. Yeah, the death would be. Yeah. What else was going on in the news today? I've seen,
you know, inflation is down. Shout out Sleepy Joe. What else is going on, man? I've been so tapped
out of the news in general that I haven't, uh, haven't paid attention to anything, man. I've been,
I've been, hell of vibey in my own little lane. This, uh, the news has been, uh, pretty, like,
like politically like stories that piss off one side or the other lately because I think
there's not much real nose so like did you see that a Spanish climate minister who took a
private jet to the climate conference all time took a limo and then hopped out the limo and got
to a bike and bike the rest of the way while being accompanied by a vehicle all time
just to seem more climately like climate aware and reduce your footprint yeah it's all
about optics man yeah but it's just
it's disgusting
how would you have him arrive
uh well just show up in the car that you were in
instead of getting on your bike for a block
and just make it a hybrid or an electric vehicle
like that's the least you can do when you're financing
your fleet of vehicles that you're using to move around
this they low key
i i forget there was a study put out a while
it's been a minute though but um
the carbon footprint of a electric vehicle is not much
better than a gas vehicle it's not for my for my for my recollection I think it is in the long
run overall it is better but it's I don't think it's an insurmountable amount and I think
they know that but I think I think people that push policy are not they're aware of all of
these things and they're they're trying to tackle big policy issues which would happen like
you know, in the industry
globally, not like
people taking their car to work
if you're like, yeah. But if they, and I'm sorry
I'm about to use this word, but if they
switch the electrical grid to
nuclear. Good,
that's good. Yeah, that was good. Nuclear.
Uh-huh. It's like ever clear,
but nuke. Right.
Nuclear. However you got to do it,
man. We're on your team.
Nuclear. Then it would actually
have a much bigger reduction.
But our energy grid is
relies so much on fossil fuel is that
and also turns out lithium mining
is like terrible.
Yeah, damn near slave labor.
Like I'm, wasn't Francis
in Ghanu?
A lithium miner?
Or am I making that up?
I have a minor of some sort before he like
got to Europe.
He's also fighting Tyson Fury, which
I'm now
convincing myself he might win, even though
there's absolutely zero shot.
What a pivot.
I've never changed
to celebrity boxing match
well Francis Anganu
MMA guy
huge punch power
he's the guy
in the new
jackass that punched
who do you punch in the dick
no clue
he punched him the dick
and he like rated his punches
like one of the hardest punches
ever recorded by this
punch rating machine
but
sick
yeah
Bro King
but Tyson Fury
Gypsy King
just has been boxing
his whole life
and has so much better
defensive movement
that he's never to get hit so we'll see what happens speaking of movies are we all going to see barbie
and oppenheimer next week yes should we make that a thing we do because i don't have any plans
i'm uh i got my tickets to oppenheimer last night i'm very excited i'm so excited so how are you
guys doing the double feature what are you hitting first and what's your schedule with you i i talked to
my girlfriend about whether we should do the double feature we both agreed that was a bit much for one day so
we're seeing Oppenheimer on Friday.
I'm doing the double feature. And then we'll see Barbie at some point soon.
And this man says he can't sit down for a long time.
No, that's what I'm saying. Like Oppenheimer's three hours.
Then you want to tack another movie onto that. Also, I want to feel Oppenheimer.
Like, when that shit blows, I don't want to, I don't want to be coming off that experience and be like, okay, we're going to see Barbie now.
I'm surprised you're into seeing Barbie.
I don't think I'd go alone
It's just the event
It's the event of the summer
No but in a total
In a couple situation
It's a tradeoff
Yeah
Oppenheim
Yeah I can
I can deal with seeing Barbie
As long as I get to see
Oppenheim
Sell me sell me on box
I'm single laying so sell me
I'm going to see Barbie
Because I have zero interest
In seeing it
So sell me, go ahead
Margot Robbie is Barbie
One
I don't know who that is
She was
Wolf of Wall Street
Stop
Stop.
Oh, what?
Hang on.
Are you being dead serious right now?
Yeah, I know I'm shit with celebrity names.
Maddie.
You do big day, you know I'm just in a celebrity.
She is.
No, she's like the celebrity.
No cap.
No cap. Maybe the hottest woman on the planet.
Look her up.
Wolf of Wall Street's wife.
I'm sure I won't.
Yeah, the wife and Wolf of Wall Street.
Do you remember?
What was her name?
Margot.
M-A-R-B-B-B-I-E.
Margot-R-B-B-I-E.
The scene when she's in the nursery and then Leo makes her know she's on film?
Oh, she's Harley Quinn?
Yes.
Yeah, okay, I've seen her before.
Hottest woman on earth is a hell.
I said maybe.
Top five to ten for sure.
She has those, you know, it's culture, preferential thing.
Won't even make my top.
No, she has those crazy eyes that almost make you avoid because you're like this, she's crazy.
You know what I'm saying?
Like there's crazy hot that's scary.
Like if they're so hot, it's terrifying a little bit.
Like this person has probably gotten away with terrible things because they're so hot.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
But yeah, so she's Barbie.
Okay.
Still not sold.
Give me more.
Ryan Gosling.
Do you know who he is from The Notebook?
What do you want?
Yeah.
He is Ken.
That's a great.
Hey, on.
Time out.
The notebook.
Great movie.
Listen, for all the dude bros out there
Who'd be like, I don't use a new book, my girl.
Listen, that is a fan fucking tastic movie, dog.
I cried.
I absolutely shed tears when I watched a movie.
It was fucking sad, dog.
It was amazingly when net, I don't want to spoil it.
It's been out like 20 years.
Yeah, after 10 years, you can say whatever.
When I figured out to end it was that nigga coming back every single day,
I was like, oh my God, sign me up for that luck.
Sign me up for that.
Sign me up for that.
It doesn't exist.
Sign me to fuck up for that love.
It can exist.
I know it's not real.
See, my problem in general with love
is that it's been marketed to us for centuries
and it doesn't deal with the nuances
and the complexities of actual day-to-day life
and it's just you have an idea.
And so you chase the idea
rather than actually dealing with the emotions that you have
and the complexity of the motions that you have, right?
Perfect example is when I was talking about the strip club thing.
Y'all was like, fuck that shit, strip club.
I ain't taking my girl to strip club.
but the complexity of those emotions you have to deal with that you still find other people sexy
but this is what home is that's what i'm saying it's because we have been marketed to but let's be
on the point tell me on the barbie thing man um it's not marketing there's a thousand percent
market where does your idea of love come from where to come from my parents uh probably
family first that was my first okay that was my first influence
Okay, where else?
Okay, movies.
Okay, okay, okay, we get it.
Boy meets world.
I'm telling you, like, it has a thousand percent been marketed and advertised to us
about what it's supposed to.
The fact that you want to get married, that is also advertising,
think about the diamond industry and how much of billions of dollars they spend on advertising
because you're supposed to spend a certain amount of paycheck,
billions of dollars of advertising revenue that the diamond company spend on giving a certain
amount of money from your paycheck to the wedding ring of whatever girl or whatever the
case might be. All of that shit, the movies, the stories that have been written over time,
the Romeo and just since back then. It's all, it's been marketed to us about what love
is supposed to be because the beautiful thing about art, which I love, right? I'm going to get
off my tangent after this. But the beautiful thing about I love about art is it takes, it takes
the emotions that we have and it puts it into a form that can be interpreted by us,
right? Whether it be painting, whether it be music, whether it be whatever the case may be.
And it's usually the highlights. And the low lights are fun too and we can relate to,
but the highlights are what we aspire to, right? That becomes the goal. I want to get to that,
but it's just most of the time not realistic. So when I say I want that notebook love,
yeah you're going to find hard press maybe 1% of the population that's going to keep coming back every day if you don't know if you're unrecognizable nine times out of 10 that do go have a side chick that's been waiting in the wing for a minute that he's going to hop on this is he'll do I think there is an element of companionship that is part like if you're actually like friends with the person there's like a sort of companionship that sort of ensures the monogamy sure or in an
empathy type
thing? I think that's the idea
I think it's ideal. I think
it's ideal. Absolutely. I think
that is ideal. And I think that's what we all aspire
to. We all have that. I have that.
I want that love. I just don't think it's
a thing. I aspire to
it. Absolutely. And I am jaded
by my experiences, just like you're jaded by your experiences,
right? But for my
experiences, that's what I see.
But I'm all for it, man. I'm all for it. But continue
to sell me. You got Ryan Gossel
Robbie Goldberg
What's the name?
Merlo?
I'm actually not
I have to argue with you
A lot of,
I'm looking up some stuff
That like a lot of the stuff
That we've been sold
And you say are being sold
Pre-date commercialization
It's like for example
The wedding ring
Is the basis of it
Is ancient Rome and Greece
And even the Viking times
And part of it was like
Rolling up to another village
To like marry the chieftain's daughter
And you like bring a bunch of jewels
If you're like a warlord
and then you trade the jewels for the wife
and then the father of the bride
gives one of the jewels to the daughter
that's getting married off.
So that's not really commercial.
That's not really love though, is it?
That's forced marriage.
True.
That's a horrible argument.
That's actually a terrible argument.
But I was like reading about the origins
of the wedding ring and that's like...
No, I was talking about the commercialization of love
and the advertisement of love.
It's been love stories, romance novels,
uh the diamond industry of valentine's day that kind of stuff the things that have been
commercialized of brown love have been um it kind of like it marketed to us in a way that was
that's palatable but also it it enhanced our desires in a way that i think are on a
unrealistic right so it's like for example like when mattie was talking about uh
like she feels a certain way if her do look at another female, you know, booty or in front of her, something like that.
I don't even know if that's the word she used, right?
But it has nothing to do with Maddie.
That's just a mindset that permeates throughout our culture.
It's like when you're with me, you're with me and you only have eyes for me.
That's part of what's been marketed to us through songs, through movie, through everything.
But it's just not realistic.
It's just not realistic.
I'd argue that that is more, that possessive nature is nature.
that's like not something that's marked it's like the jealousy yeah no I would I would agree the jealousy
is nature what I wouldn't agree is that the desire to have one person for the rest of life is nature
I don't think that's natural at all I think there are I think there are more I think there are
absolutely going to be exceptions to the rule but I think for the majority of part if you
really are looking at the same woman now that you look at it when you're 50 and 60 years old
and never had eyes for any other woman in your child out I would say you were lying
I don't think there's anything wrong with that though
but I think you would probably think there's something wrong with that
and larger part of society would think there's something wrong with that
of you being like I think even the Bible it says
if you lust after a woman in your mind
that's like a sin or something right
like lustful thoughts are a sin and that's fucking crazy to me
like that's but I think of course you're going to have
lustful thoughts and view other people
but acting on those urges is
like not, it's not that crazy to never act on those urges.
No, I didn't say that that.
So monogamy is not something to be.
I think we all aspire for monogamy, for sure.
I just don't think the boundaries that we place on relationships are realistic in our society,
especially given this internet boom, where everything is microwaves, where it's like,
Like love was proximal back in our parents' days and their parents' days was proximal.
So you fell in love with the people that you came in contact with, right?
Now you're so much more aware of there's something better.
And odds are there probably is and not necessarily better, but something that is more compatible with you.
Now, I actually had a different type of argument about this because of the internet monogamy is actually
not easier but is harder to work towards
whereas sleeping around
and you know
because the conquest of a woman quote on quote
in like having multiple conquests
is now so much easier
nowadays just because of you know women can have multiple
like it's more accepted that it's almost
it's almost
he started to go down a real road there
and didn't exactly veer off
I think he still don't think he knows.
Go ahead, brother, cook.
What did I say?
No, just cook.
Just keep cooking.
No, but the whole thing about like the batch, like,
sowing your wild oats at a young age and like sleeping around with tons of people,
like is not,
it's almost the norm nowadays that monogamy is almost seen to be like more of something
to work towards and almost more like, you know, Frank Sinatra,
sleeping around with tons of women was really rare in the 30s.
And everyone was like, wow, look at this ladies man.
Like I want to be like him one day, but like now, but see this is this is where the marketing I think has gotten to you and to people in general is that wasn't that rare how it was very prevalent for for dudes to have like a separate family like that shit. Like that shit happened all the time. Like dudes was always tipping off on their wives. What wasn't necessarily, uh, I think prevalent was for women to have a voice or say. And so they got their voice got trampled a lot back in those days where nowadays they're saying.
I don't want to take that shit.
Some of them are saying, I don't want to be locked down.
Like, and so that's, that's the bigger part, I think you're trying to.
Right.
But the second part of that argument I was trying to say is that because of social media,
it's harder to sleep around and get away with it because there's so many more lines
of communication.
Like, like now the, no, I mean, shit, I didn't got caught up before.
Right.
It is what it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So back in my younger days, when I was an unfaithful man, I got caught up.
It happens.
But I think running into that makes people more aware that, yeah, you can't really fuck around and get away with it anymore because there's so many, you know, and that even impacts people who are single and are just sleeping with different people around town.
Yeah.
But also, I think it makes people less eager to get into a relationship because it's like.
Like you said, all of the pitfalls that come with being in a relationship being caught.
And plus all the temptation out there.
But right.
And so there's so much temptation.
No, but the deterrent, I think, is almost bigger because it's so much easier to get caught.
Like, for example, you wouldn't commit a crime that is very easy to be found out for.
So you're in like a high risk, high reward.
I think that's, I think that's apples and orange.
I don't think anybody, I don't think, I don't think anybody won't get into relationship
because they're like, chances are I'll get caught cheating.
I don't think that's...
Or if they're in a relationship, they won't cheat
because there's a very high probability
they get caught in today's age.
Yeah, but I don't think...
I don't know.
I don't think that...
Wait, are you saying that the probability
of getting caught is higher
and that is the deterrent for not getting in a relationship?
No, for keeping people monogamous.
see that's the thing though if if that's what's keeping you from being monogamous right right why are you in a relationship no but just on top of you know like when you're way like you know when that when the two wolves or the the devil and the angel on your shoulder are debating stuff like what the devil you know is saying can easily be negated just by like rationality of that fact as opposed to that's these marketed ideals that you are saying are just commercialized that goes to my point my point my point is
that monogamy itself is not the most natural thing.
Like I said, there are exceptions where people are just love birds and they just
going to die together. And that's what it's beautiful. Right. I think that's what we
aspire. It's what we write love songs about. But I just don't think it's the most natural
and realistic thing. And so my point, which you just made,
is if I'm having these desires to cheat and my motivation to not cheat
is I might get caught rather than I don't want to hurt my partner.
Right, right.
But that is not being ever late.
But, but, but, and I agree with you, like, I don't want to hurt my partner is probably
the top one.
But when talking about social media's application, yeah, when talking about social media's
application to being detrimental to monogamy, I think it also has, you know, a security
system, if you will, that like can argue that social media actually, you know, contains it.
they're saying
social media
helps the
non-cheating partner
be detective
yeah
if you will
I mean
but I'm not saying
that's the only reason
I'm just saying
like social media
has its
you know
deterrence
and provocations
I mean I hear you
I hear what you're saying
don't get what you're saying
I just I just don't think
I don't know
monogamy itself
I have a hard time
getting convinced
that it's a natural thing
and when I say natural
meaning we don't have to fight a desire
right
it's very natural to breathe
I don't have to fight to not breathe
right that's very natural
so what is
being hungry very natural
so would you argue polygamy
is natural
I want to say polygamy
because I think
polygamy gets a bad rap
in the sense of they think
it's just everybody fucking everybody
Polygamy has rules it has boundaries it has all these it has different you know social dynamics that I've never been involved in but I've been in conversation with people who are and it's not just cut and dry like you get to fuck whoever you want I get to fuck whoever I want it's not what it is right right but in most of those systems it's you know as Future says he has a collection where it's like a I mean a harem if you will and usually those systems is extremely misogynist and you know misogynist and
and it's usually multiple women, one man.
Do you think that is the, like, if there is a system,
if there is some natural order of things,
would it be something like that?
Like, are we going to look at, you know,
family structures of certain other animals
that are quote unquote natural
because monogamy and polygamy both exist in nature?
So does homosexuality.
So does so many other things that are in the natural order
of humans.
So what would we consider
the natural way of things? I think
when you look at like the animal
kingdom, right? I believe
that we are animals, right?
And there's a hierarchy
involved as far as like
efficiency, stuff like that.
I believe
how we have evolved is very communal.
And I think at first
it was beneficial to breed just like
any other animal.
And so we were breeding.
I don't think there was much monogamy involved in our origins.
I think there may have been pockets.
And honestly, this is actually a really dark part of our, like, history,
but I think there was a lot of rape involved in our origins.
And so I think that's where misogyny stems from.
Misogyny stems from, like, the natural order of things is,
whoever carries the bigger stick.
That's how we're going.
That's how we're rocking.
Those are the rules.
You know what I'm saying?
I break the rules.
I'll do whatever.
But I think as we evolved,
we found, you know, agriculture, culture, stuff like that.
And we have found ways to develop and communicate
in which a lot of animals have not, obviously.
And so long story short, I think it is efficient for some people to be monogamous.
I think it's inefficient for some people to be monogamous.
And I think the data points of that as well.
The high rate of divorce shows that.
The high rates of domestic violence.
All these things show that we're not the emotionally stable creatures that we pretend to be.
and it's still very complicated, and I think you should not enter into these things,
and me being a perfect example of that, right?
I don't have no perfect past, but this is why I'm single right now is because I understand
I have a lot of emotional things to work through, and part of that is jealousy.
Part of that is, you know, self-awareness, like all of these things.
And I think as we develop that in a higher sense, we start to understand what's better
for ourselves. And I aspire and I want a monogamous relationship. But I know I don't, I cannot
fulfill my end of the bargain. You know, my last two relationships I did. On one of them,
they did it, right? And that jaded me, right? And so it's just a very, it's a complicated
cauldron of emotions that I think we're all just kind of sorting out. But I think monogamy
in general in a society is a very rare thing.
I don't think it's as prevalent as we think it is.
I'd like to think it is.
Because, and this is a lot of this is anecdotal.
I know a lot of married women out here wilding.
I know a lot of married dudes out here wilder.
And it's just, what is the point?
I'm seeing as like the crazy, you know, middle-aged single cat.
But I'm like, all right.
But you think you're more, I'm being.
You're real.
You're being more real.
I don't want to put real in that I'm being a truer sense of myself, you know, that I know that I can be honorable, right?
Because when I was younger, I was trying to fulfill a role in which I thought that myself and society wanted me to fulfill, right?
And I was I was not emotionally able to fulfill that role.
And then when I got to the point where I was able to understand what I was able to, if I'm going to say something, I should be able to fulfill that.
then I should stop putting all of these, um, uh, expectations on myself, right?
I just be single, right?
And so my last two relationships, I didn't cheat, um, but I was unable to fulfill a lot of
the roles emotionally, right?
Like, so like when you come home, for example, like when you come home and you just
checked out, right?
Like, it's like emotionally neglectful to be like, I don't feel like dealing with nothing.
I don't care what's going on with you right now.
Like, I got my own shit.
I had to understand that that was negatively affecting somebody else.
You know what I mean?
And so, like, when you're in a relationship, you know, if I don't got 20, like, you've got to meet me 80.
And I was no longer willing to have that tug of war.
You know what I mean?
I was no longer willing.
And I understood that.
And so physically, emotionally, all this stuff, it's not about me being real or not.
It's me finally understanding what I was able to give in a relationship.
And I'm, I just, I'm not able to give until I feel like I'm in a better place emotionally.
So now, with that being like some, you know, some people, monogamy is preferred, some people, you're unable to, you know, give in those positions and do the whole tug of war.
How does that, now this might, I want this to sound, I wanted this to sound generalized and not too personal, but like, does that mean that in,
any relationship there's also that tug of war because in relationships with your parents your
brothers sisters family friends like there is that same tug of war but at the end of the day
friends you can you know lose path like you can cut off but like family you can also cut off but like
you're still maintaining relationships every day like i think i think it's it's easier to say
boundaries with people you don't share the same space with. You know what I mean? So if like if we're
living in the same house, our boundaries have to be metaphorical. You know what I mean? Our
boundaries aren't physical because like we share the same space. And so like when I got a friend
who is constantly asking me for money or something like that, I could tell them, hey, listen,
when you do this, it makes me feel like this and it makes me feel like you don't value this.
And you know what I'm saying? That's a boundary I'm setting for that. When you ask me for
something, I cannot give you that. Or I feel like that is, our friendship should not be contingent
on, on that, right? That's a boundary that I set, right? But when we're in the same household,
like a lot of the boundaries are different. The boundaries are real. The boundaries could be like,
yo, I cannot stand when you leave towels in the bathroom. Like, that shit bothers the fuck
out of me. And it might not end your relationship, but that can lead to, I don't like the towels.
I don't like how you leave the dishes out.
I don't like how you try to wake me up, you know, in the morning.
And the list adds on to the kids to the point.
I can't take this shit anymore.
You know what I mean?
And those are the boundaries that are harder to set when you're occupying the same space.
When you're not in the same space, it's easier to set those boundaries.
And most of the time, if you have a good friend who's emotionally halfway emotionally aware, they'll respect those boundaries.
You're like, I, you know what?
I understand.
But when you're in the same space, there's little wars that go on all day long.
And you have to, you have to, it's a give and take.
My stepdad says this shit, because he's a little more old school than I am, right?
I'm, I'm a little more like therapy.
Like I use a lot of therapy words and like, you know, I've been through a lot of therapy.
So, but my, my stepdad would be like, 80, 20.
I was like, what's that mean?
What's that mean, man?
He goes 80 20 20.
He's like, you got to cut, you get to say, you got to draw the line.
You got to be 80% of the shit that you're willing to take, 20% should not.
He's like, you got to draw that line.
I was like that's that's fair for his age
like he just there's some shit you've got to be able to take
some shit that you can't
which is which isn't the sense of boundary
well so Barbie and Ken
will probably not work out in the long run
according to Aryan Foster
I don't know man
hope they work it out man
that was a hard left from Barbie
but I do think you'll you should see Barbie area
it would be really funny if there's a scene
and they like it's like a
Uh, it, how, what's it rated?
I think PG-G, got to be.
It would be really funny if they, like, it probably is PG-13.
They take their clothes off and they're like the dolls, they're smooth.
That'd be funny.
Oh, I bet.
It's a shit happened on, um, it's PG-13.
It should happen on Black Mirror, actually.
Don't, don't tell me.
No, not on the new one.
It's not the new one.
I've literally got plans to watch it tonight.
It's not the, it's not the new one.
It's the old one.
Okay. Okay.
The old one with the Starfleet, on Starfleet.
Oh, yeah.
When he's like trapped in,
his little game they don't have any they don't have any private parts and he just slaps it
have you watched all the new ones no i haven't watched any oh really yeah no and i'm actually
i want to talk about i don't know why but yeah i thought you i thought you were excited i guess not
no i've really been tapped out man i've been doing so much golfing like it's summertime so i got
my kids a lot so i've been like daddy shit you know what i'm saying like swimming and this i got a vacation
place like a lot of daddy shit.
You're sounding a little
well.
Can't stop playing golf.
Swimming?
Oh, I'm washed.
I've been washed.
No, no, no, no.
Well, well,
washed in a sense.
Well, me and you.
Oh, you're saying white?
She didn't say that sound white.
A little.
Hey, man.
There's not a lot of
shit to do nowadays.
you go golf you know what I ain't into the club scene no more it's just not a lot of
shit to do man you know what I mean to America's coming for this fun gonna be one
eventually that's why that's what I say you know class and race is highly highly
into woven but that's a topic for another conversation um are you gonna are you gonna
see Oppenheimer though I hadn't planned on it um but if y'all if y'all hype in it
it's supposed to be sick
like that
it's supposed to rain this weekend
so
they come out next weekend
never mind
well
this weekend
it's supposed to rain
in the northeast
so good time
to watch black mirror
we're all gonna watch it
by the time
the nanodose
comes around
and maybe we'll talk about it
no
I thought we
I thought we was
doing the Bible thing
on a nanodost man
well now PFT's
who knows when he's coming back
he's you know
ambles
macrodosing is in shambles
no it's not weird
we'll do it
We'll do it on Monday regardless of who's here.
Yeah.
The Bible jump.
So he's going to miss Genesis, the origins.
Yeah, he might be back.
I don't know.
We don't know.
He's off on his.
Big T and I will be talking about Black Mirror.
But we are our episode topics.
We have three good ones coming up that we all really want to do,
but they got kind of thrown out of whack because we didn't know PFT was going to be gone this week.
So we're doing the Kim Trails thing.
Today, American Revolution, we want to do Oppenheimer and then potentially Boston Marathon, even though Boston Marathon bombing, even though Arrian has pushed back on that saying it's boring. But I promise, if you look into it, it is, they had a shootout in the middle of a residential neighborhood looking for these dudes. It's crazy. I've been getting some crazy DMs. We have a lot of Boston based bros who were around the age of some of these guys. And I have some firsthand accounts of the brothers. Aaron, I promise we've done.
some boring stories on this show
this is not boring
okay I mean I'm open
I just all right I haven't looked
into it and what was the most
what was the most boring
oh I'd have to go back and look
but we've had some
I can think of one off the top of the head
you do several hundred episodes of a show
like you're going to have some duds
Aaron and I think of the same exactly
I gotta go back and look
what's yours Maddie what's yours
everybody say
the worst episode right now.
Microplastics.
Bro,
microplastics.
We love Chief.
We love Chief is very good.
A great dude.
He's probably going to have,
he'll probably be on this show again in Chicago.
Microplastics is probably a source of like a tons of mental health issues across
the country.
Boring.
You're not wrong.
Yeah.
That shit was boring.
Right.
I was on the show.
I was on a show like,
Hey, yo.
Yo.
We got to crack a joke of something.
Somebody.
I don't stop.
Make it fun of it do, right?
Because it was boring.
And Dante was on, too.
I love both of them.
It helped build our podcast.
We got some Barstall, Chicago listeners.
They're a great group of guys.
There's some big stuff coming down the...
It's nothing to do with them.
It was just our worst episode.
We've had another bad episode back.
Maybe nobody was on.
If you podcast two times a week for three plus years,
you're going to have some days where it's like,
it's like worse.
you have some bad days man
it is what it is right
and I'm sure
I'm sure the viewers agree that
some episodes are good for them
some are not
microplastics was bad for me though
I knew you were going to say the same thing
it was hard dog
what was your speaking
I'm going through them right now
I'm in October of 2021
there's a couple that like
have had guests
and I don't want to disrespect
the guests were appreciative of anyone
that wants to come on this show,
but some are better than others.
We shouldn't just shit on our own show on our show.
I mean,
it's better us.
It's better us doing it than other people.
Yeah,
no,
we admit our fault.
The worst ones being,
that's being,
that's being honest,
if you think we put out all bangers
and it's just nonstop,
amazing content,
non-s,
you're lying.
I don't remember,
we did one about credit.
Was that interesting at all?
I think it was more informative.
That's when you and I,
when,
you were like I don't have a credit card
I don't have a credit score
I have a great credit score
Oh let me tell you my credit score nowadays guys
I have a great credit score because I don't have credit cards
Let me you know and I got a big boy credit card too
Yeah
Oh talk that talk that credit shit bill
Yeah I pay my bills
Yeah
That's actually a huge flex
Yeah but it's 785
That's really good though
Yeah
It was not that during the time, but at filming.
I think Billy's was zero during the time of filming.
I didn't have a credit.
Anything else you're finding in there?
Well, now I got to go on Experian and see.
Mine's right around there, but it's got to be higher than Billy's.
I have to have it be higher.
Yeah.
Damn.
Okay, okay, hold on, no.
You brought you, I know you have the highest.
I know you have the highest.
Yeah, mine is.
Wait, what was yours?
785.
Oh, damn.
Mine's 721.
I think mine's 720 something, yeah.
Oh, man.
It's just because I don't spend my money.
Yeah, actually, I
once had
really bad credit. There was a time.
I know when I was coming out, when I was coming out of college, it was in the
500s. Yeah.
There's 500s, but it's because
there's some project shit.
My mother, I don't know if y'all can relate to anything. It's probably not
though, but I know there's some listeners I can't. My mother
and my father, bless their hearts, love them to death.
When we was growing up, they put a couple
I put a phone bill and I think a cable bill
in my name.
when we was growing up because they shit was so fucked up.
So they put it in my name and that went delinquent.
And so I had that shit on my credit score when I came out of college unbeknownst to me.
And so my money manager calls me when I first get into the league and he goes, hey, yo, what
is MCI?
I have no idea.
He's like, why is MCI on your credit?
I was like, I don't know what MCI is.
I have no idea.
He's like, it's a phone bill from like 94 or something.
I was like, I got to be moms and dads, bro.
like there's no way
this is like y'all probably don't know nothing about this
but this happens all the time in the black community
or like they just put
phone bills in their kids names
but shout out to the
hey shout out to y'all do what y'all got to do
Billy what did you say yours was
785
fuck
776
damn
well I just make three different ones though
isn't there
yeah yeah
Experian is the main one
but I just don't spend money
but it's not um
conducive to a good credit score
she's paying your bills and paying your credit part of
yeah um
sorry to flex on all of you with credit issues
uh please check our credit
please check our credit podcast
arian does a great job explaining how to get your credit score
up the scores change you can raise it
yeah it's just because you have bad credit now
doesn't mean you have to have bad credit forever
pull yourself up by your bootstraps
you should try to get Dave Ramsey on this show
Oh, my God.
Didn't he just, didn't he just get like?
I actually think he is being sued for something right now.
Uh, I saw a headline.
I didn't.
It was something.
He was promoting some sort of company that was fraudulent or something.
Here.
Outstanding TikToks, though.
Some of the people that call into Dave Ramsey.
Oh, it's that guy.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, I love his TikToks.
Big UT fan.
Oh, he love his TikToks.
Yeah, he came and talked to us one time.
Is he the old bald dude?
Yeah.
Yep.
With the go.
that's like
kind of sounds like that
yeah he not all of his ideas
are like amazing
but for the most part he has
he has some good plans he's always yelling some shit
uh yeah he's being
uh sued for 150 million dollars for promoting a company
accused of fraud
yeah what's the company
uh claims ramsry received more than 30 million
between 2015 to 2021 to promote
time share exit team on the rams
show. The Washington State-based company, which now operates as Reed Hine and Associates,
allegedly promised to help customers terminate their timeshare contracts, which are notoriously
difficult to exit.
Dave Ramsey's not the bald old guy I was thinking of. There's another one.
He's definitely a bald old guy. Who looks a little scarier and he wears like a monocle.
Are you talking about the guy? I know who he's talking about. I don't know what his name is.
Yeah. But he's on TikTok and he's like, if you knew who started Bitcoin, you would
you would sell it as fast as you can.
Is that who you're talking about?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know what his name is.
He's a big like,
Gary V?
Huh?
Gary Vee?
No, no, no, no.
This guy's scary.
Also, that guy's not bald.
He's got probably got a little hair.
I think he has a lot of hair.
No, no, that's, no.
I saw him today.
He came up on my TikTok today.
This guy's like old and he looks kind of like a fatter Mr. Burns.
Anyway.
Also, my credit score is 762.
That's pretty good.
Nice.
It's good stuff.
Oh, good credit scores.
I'm embarrassed of mine now.
What's it?
Start with.
Seven.
Man, it's good.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
We're just flexing on, you know, we're just really showing our privilege right now.
I'm sorry.
Doesn't mean I'm rich.
This probably sounds really dushy to some people.
Does not mean I am rich.
But Tucker Carlson had Andrew Tate on for an interview.
Tell me you listen to that.
Shit. He was listening to it when I came in. I wanted to see. I watched it. So you guys didn't. Perfect. Give us the synops.
So Andrew Tate basically says that the reason he's being, you know, being held under their house arrest was imprisoned is because they're classifying. So this is what he said. They're classifying him, uh, taking in charge of the financials of his quote unquote friends TikTok account.
counts is human trafficking, which sounds like a roundabout way of he's like managing these girls
TikToks who he claims are his friends, but are probably his employees. And like if you think about
those by him classifying them his friends, he probably transported those women to Romania
in order to be his employees. And then he handled the financials of their TikToks.
And I think there's a roundabout way you can classify that as human trafficking.
Okay.
But that's his claims.
But also, he says that the women are his friends and are saying they're not victims,
but apparently under human trafficking laws, like they can, even if the victim says they're not victims,
they can still press the charges.
I don't know if any of that's true.
That's just what I saw on the interview.
Yeah, I don't know nor care enough to dig into that case.
I've heard enough of his shit to where I'm like, I'm cool off.
I know I follow this one dude on, excuse me, on YouTube that does a lot of like deep dives,
video essays kind of.
And he did one on Andrew Tate.
And so he did one.
Actually, it was, what is his name?
he breaks down
and he like uncovers
like crypto scams
Vsauce
no oh he's the one who got
Jake Paul
yes Spinzilla or whatever
like he's fucking fired dog
I recommend him
I don't know his exact name
I don't think it's Spinzella or something
but so
he actually subscribed to his
Hustlers University thing
he actually did it
and long story sure
I guess basically what it is
It's just like a same shit.
They give you like access to like some discord,
which is like quote unquote teachers of like how to get money,
how to invest and move to move.
He's like it's all a bunch of bullshit.
But like I said, I didn't.
And a lot of the stuff he says like the hyper masculinity, toxic masculine shit
that he says is like marketing for it.
And they pray on like, you know, dudes with not a lot of guidance.
And it makes sense for them.
and dudes that feel left out
and dudes that feel this
and sells
something like that
the YouTuber's
coffee zilla
I just pulled them up
coffee zilla yeah
yeah yeah he's
he does a fantastic job
of breaking a lot of like
crypto stuff down
he's taking a lot of like scams down
like literally court
like took it
like they take his investigation
that goes to court like that type shit
he does a really good job
of breaking that shit down
but anyway
like so I don't know enough about
buddy and I don't really care enough about but from what I've heard that sounds like bullshit
because I heard um and I could be wrong because I haven't done enough uh research on it but
I've heard like he was I don't even want to get into it because I haven't yeah I watched that
video more that you know Andrew Tate's got basically a pyramid scheme to promote him um
which I don't know if it's illegal but coffee zeal come on the podcast
please tell us where we're missing um fire one to get he's good uh oh crazy story uh a russian
military guy got assassinated and they used his jogging he like you know those jogging apps that
post your runs like strava strava yeah you got assassinated because he had his runs on strava
and they tracked him yeah the ukraine yeah he got popped oh my god that's wild so hold on
He has an app on, like, I'm assuming his watcher his phone.
Yeah.
That tracks his movement when he's jogging.
Yes.
Strava.
After it's done.
After it's done.
But then if you can see if they're taking.
So.
He has a routine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So Strava.
So it's really funny because on Strava, so it was a Russian submarine commander.
He was assassinated on his run.
And one of the people who liked the post was the chief of intelligence of Ukraine.
which is just
that's funny as shit actually
just
just scrolling on his timeline
like
pretty dope
like that's wild
was there
was there anything else
of importance
in that Tucker Carlson
tape interview
I'm only 45 minutes in
and they're just talking about
his philosophy
how he's
yeah he's like
the only thing I did wrong
was tell men
that they can just say no
to
I don't know
I don't want to
sound like I'm banging for him
I just watched it
because I thought it would be
something of importance
yeah
well
I'm glad you did the dirty work man
let us know
how it finishes up
probably with him in jail
in a Ukraine
in a Russian prison
no no
a Romanian
prison
that's wild
Big T
you you teed off
about anything man
just these
fucking planes, dude. Where's Mayor Pete?
Show your face.
He's the head of what?
Transport. What is the title? He's the Secretary of Transportation.
Yeah.
Have we had any statement from him or his department?
No.
Nothing.
Because I look.
And this is the fifth or sixth major airline outage.
You know, fuck up under his watch.
Granted, obviously, not all his fault.
However, I mean, I don't remember.
there being this many previously
I mean
I think there's been
to be fair there's been
delays and stuff
in the time yeah yeah yeah but
there's been
four or five like
major week long
fuck ups
and just keeps happening
they said it was weather
that seems to be
just like patently untrue
I heard some
I saw some
pilot or retired pilot
on Twitter saying stuff that I didn't really understand about air traffic control.
So I'm not sure exactly what's going on with that.
But that seems to be potentially the source of all these outages.
I don't know.
I just want Mayor Pete to show his face.
It'd be a great time to have like someone who's obsessed with airplanes to be on the podcast, you know.
Who do you have in mind, Billy?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I honestly don't know what he's getting at either.
They must be so obsessed with airplanes that they probably.
hopped on one a little early
Oh, premature hop on
an airplane, jet setting,
you know, if someone who's
really obsessed with airplanes like got a little money,
they'd probably like do a lot of airplane stuff, right?
Yeah.
Probably, really. Yeah.
So true.
For those who that went over
your head, he's talking about BFT.
Probably flew first class.
Yeah, definitely.
So I mean,
does the Secretary of Transportation
ever make statement
in lieu of like delays like this?
Well he, so when Southwest had their major, like where their entire system shut down, which was their fault, like he came out and was like, we need more, you know, legislation, you know, making sure that all this infrastructure is, you know, up to par and that everybody's on a level playing field, this, that, and the other.
And now that there's apparently just like no air traffic controllers or whatever the deal is, he's nowhere to be found.
I just want to know where he is.
Is he in South Bend?
Is he in Washington?
Where is Mayor Pete?
Somebody show me, get me a visual on Mayor Pete.
That's all I ask.
Checking the...
I want to know if he's in the office.
Checking the opposite tabloids.
I'm out on him now.
After my experience, I'm out on Pete Buttigieg.
Single issue voter?
I couldn't vote for him.
He was appointed, but...
That was bad.
...flies on taxpayer-funded private jets.
flight data show.
You could have guessed.
I'm turning
to big T's slowly.
Okay.
I mean,
we've talked about this before,
but data show
and data shows.
You know what I mean?
People put data as
plural.
It is technically plural.
So I know it is,
but like it don't sound
right to me.
I would say,
the data shows yeah yeah the data says but people say the data say but i just i hate that that
technically is correct a thousand percent correct i'm just saying i feel like it's elitist when you do that
i agree like if you say um like if you were to say if i were to say aryan so much better at football
than me that's actually wrong you would say aryan's better at football than i but like if you say
because you would say better than i am but if you say that you sound like a piece of shit
so you just say
the way people say it
yeah
I guess I'm a little
elitist when it comes to that too
in a different way
so my Siri
I have her in a British voice
it's wild
so like anytime I ask Siri
to think she she's British
and every time I do it around people
they're like what the fuck why she's British
I'm like they sound smarter to me
I don't know
it just sounds so so when I ask
Siri something it sounds more reliable
coming from a British person
Let me be a little elitist right there
That's that's classist because the Siri
British accent is posh English
I don't know
I couldn't tell you the difference between any of the accents
Well have you heard like Cockney or like
Grime rap
It's hard for me listening to grime rap man
I don't keep with a butt
Do you want to
That shit sounds so wet to
Pull up with Stanley
Like what's up bro
Walking up with the I'm just like I can't
I respect wherever you from
and I'm there's struggle everywhere.
Roadman.
It's so,
it's so tough for me to look at it.
Like, I'd be like,
nah,
but you know it's so funny.
It's so funny.
I was talking to troops and troops was like,
we're roadman from the road.
And I was like, what?
Oh, yeah.
It's like they mean the streets.
Like I'm from the streets.
Like I'm from the roadman.
The road.
Cobbles.
Cobblestone.
You almost sound Jamaican when you're saying.
Well,
there's a little of that influence.
Is that the same as like that song that was like on TikTok's like,
How can I be homophobic?
My bitch is gay.
That's crime rap.
Okay.
But I think that guy might be,
I don't know who,
there was a grime rapper who was doing as a joke who then became.
Or that's Central C, isn't that?
No, is that Big Shack?
Because there was a grime rapper who was rapping as a joke
that then became popular because Americans didn't understand that he was doing parody
because they just heard grime.
I did find a tweet from one member of the
administration about planes in the last 24 hours.
You want to know what it says?
Yeah.
This is from Kamala Harris.
This is her real account.
I checked four times.
The majority of domestic flights do not have accessible restrooms.
This is absolutely unacceptable.
Our administration will soon announce a solution to help end this inequity.
I'm glad to see we're getting to the real problems with air travel.
Wait, when she says accessible, does she mean like?
I think like wheelchair, I guess.
Oh, okay.
which absolutely love like uh them shit's small bro yeah yeah i mean we don't have big t accessible
restrooms on planes either so hey we don't have medium area in ones either i'd be in a plane
pissing with my head sideways like this oh it's outrageous i can imagine how you be in that
oh i'll i will damn near piss my pants before i'll go it has to be a dire emergency when i went to
London, obviously seven hours.
I just had to at some point.
I was like, fuck, this is going to suck so bad.
Sometimes I have to pee sideways.
And that's much more complicated than you think.
Totally.
Okay.
Yep.
But yeah, when I went to London is probably the only time in the last
years, at least, that I've used a bathroom on a plane.
Yeah.
I mean, I'll do it a lot because usually I,
I drink on a plane
you get drunker
maybe it's a myth
is that true
it might be true
I don't know
but I'd be getting lit
on planes
yeah
true
I got pretty lit
watching UFC
on a plane
Saturday night
yeah
so I don't know
if it's true
or not it could be
but like
yeah I gotta do it
sideways
where I'm like this
like my head
like the roof
like this
on the right side
of my head
and I'm like this
so like I couldn't imagine
well you 65
66
yeah
yeah
so
I got, whew, that's a tight squeeze with you, though.
I always find them too skinny.
So I turn sideways and put my leg up on, like, the seat cover and then stand on.
Skinny. Hold on, Billy.
Stand on one leg and pee sideways.
You be the reason there's pee all over the floor.
Hey, there's small bathrooms.
You know, one time I was the first one to use the bathroom on a plane.
And usually, like, you know, there's pee all over the floor on the, you know what I'm saying, on the bottom of the seat.
And not the seat, but like, you know, the floor floor.
And usually I'd be like, how do people miss this shit, right?
And so I peed, I did my thing and I washed my hands.
And as I move my hands to go get the little, you know, the towels, there was water dripping all over the floor.
And it looked like pee.
And I was like, you know, that might be a big cause.
I mean, it could be pee, but it could be a lot of, you know,
drippage from the from the hand washing so or the non potable water what's that
did I say that wrong you know that how it's like don't drink the water in airplanes
it's non potable potable potable I didn't even heard of either one of those I think it just
means you can't drink it I hold on are you drinking it out of the faucet yeah you're not
supposed to do that why would you do that no no no they tell you not to do that well who would go
to the bathroom to get a sip of water.
I had someone who didn't want to buy water.
What the fuck?
I never heard of that.
I just remember like the first time I was an airplane, just like seeing that sign and be like, what the hell does that mean?
I didn't know that there were people genuinely thinking about going to the faucet and getting water from the, that's, that's kind of crazy.
Little kids.
Teach their own, man.
Chase their own.
All right, man.
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Today's topic is,
I thought it was going to be a little more boring
then when I originally started researching it was, um, it's, it's Kim Trails.
Kim Trails, uh, because I thought it was just be like a one-off, but like, there's a lot of
stuff in here that's pretty, pretty interesting, man. So I think, uh, a good way to kick it off
is, well, first, what everybody, whatever, before we get into what it is, does everybody have,
I want to get everybody's idea of what they thought it was blindly without researching it. What
everybody think that chemtrails were so i was introduced to kem trails it was really uh the first
conspiracy that introduced me to conspiracy people there's like there's people who think that the
airplane tracks are are dangerous and in my brain for some reason airplanes making tracks just made
sense because if you're moving through anything you know a ship leaves awake you know a car leaves
tire tracks and the airplane leaves you know those white things in the sky and they're they're
just airplane tracks about you big t yeah i mean i pretty much knew what it was the basic
gist of it i i think huh i was going to say like when you heard chemtra was like what was
the first like what was your introduction to what those were i don't necessarily remember the
first time i heard it i you know it comes up every now and then i feel it's
like a, it's a pretty wacko
conspiracy. Like when someone's trying to brand you as a conspiracy
theorist, they'll throw out like Kim Trails. It's like Flat Earth and Kim Trails.
Yeah. But like I had a general like sense of what it is. It was an OG conspiracy
theory. It was one of the first. I think this predated like internet type vibes because
I remember in middle, when I was in middle school, so this was like, oh, 98, ish, 99.
something. A lot of, a lot of my friend group was talking about, I don't know how I got to them.
I don't know where they got it from, but they were like, look at those things. That's the
government flying stuff over and putting chemicals in the air. And I was like, say word.
Like, you know what I was? I was quick to say fuck the government back in those days.
Well, it's still in today. But having a reason back then, I was really interested in it.
And there wasn't a lot of places or sources for information. So a lot of the shit that we grew up
thinking was true, um, there was no way to debunk it. And so for years, I actually believed
this. Um, not to any extent where I was willing to die for, but I was like, I just thought it was
like common knowledge, like amongst, you know, people in the know, quote unquote, that like
government puts chemicals over the air. Now, what exactly those chemicals were? Of course,
we never got into the details of it. What the chemicals did? Never got into details of that.
I mean, you know, I wasn't a skeptic to that degree back then. What's up?
Now, we won't, we'll get into it a little later after we get into chemtrails, but the government has done that.
The government has put chemicals in the air, has tested weapons on its citizens, and we can get into that a little later.
But the original, you know, the original genesis of the widespread chem trail conspiracy, it started on early message boards, but it really got popularized by a late night radio host.
named Art Bell in 1999.
So he had people called Richard Fink and William Thomas
who were internet forum conspiracy people
who he brought a lot of their forum thinking
to the mainstream on his late night show.
And that's really what started, you know,
broadcasting it across the nation.
Yeah.
So that's when I first heard of it.
And that's how, I mean,
think about how quick that shit spread,
especially because those are the early days of message boards right message boards weren't like
social media to where it's like you have three or four main platforms and everybody kind of goes to
that to see what's going on and now you have your little pocket of information a little pocket
of community that you kind of vibe and stick to and even though that was a little community
that shit made it to me in a middle school in albuquerque new me um uh if you want if you
If you want to hop on the details of it, Billy, you can go ahead.
I just have a few points that I want to stick on.
But if you want to hop on, I know you always got bullet points and shit.
A lot of the, when the conspiracy was spread online, they'd use a lot of pictures of test planes.
So when planes are being new models of planes are being tested, they tend to, instead of using humans to simulate weight.
distribution they use water in tanks because that tends to move around much like humans do and it's weird to say that but for example when a plane turns right humans will lean with it because of the momentum and water will kind of do the same thing so a lot of these pictures of these test flights were used by conspiracy theorists to be like look these are the tanks in these
look like civilian
planes, but
they're really filled with tanks
and with chemicals. But a quick
research can show you that they're just
testing weight imbalances
on planes during a flight. I sent a picture
to the group chat. Hopefully you can throw
that in YouTube.
But that was a
huge part of it. So
Edward Snowden
on the Joe Rogan podcast said that he had
access to so many files.
to everything bad that the government was doing
and he did not find anything
that indicated chemtrails were real.
Yeah.
I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I don't remember that reference
because that's dope.
I think, I think one of the ones that that tip me off,
like, that was like interesting and shit that I did not know
previous to researchers was that they actually do
and in Beijing in 2008,
uh, the Chinese government did this to try to keep,
keep rain from going over the Olympics is they do something called cloud seating. So cloud
seating is basically when they, what is the chemicals? I had to pull that. It is silver iodide.
So they fire rockets and shells loaded with silver iodide into them. And it essentially
gets like moisture in the air to come to.
together and it makes clouds and so they cloud seed to disperse the cloud i don't know the 100%
science behind it but in a sense and if you could explain it better than me brother go ahead but in a sense
that's basically what they do so we actually had a conspiracy that our school was cloud seeding
uh wild one but apparently you can cloud seed for like 10,000 dollars you can cloud seed individual
places for weddings to make sure that the day of it's it's nice out so the silver iodide
gets spread by an airplane
and apparently all the moisture in the air
it like triggers
the way it was explained to me it was like the air
is pregnant with water and the silver iodide
triggers the water to be
birthed onto the earth
I don't know like
So you make it rain before you don't
you want it to not rain so that it can't rain
because there's no more moisture in the air
that was a really weird way
the people explained it to me
now that I think about it
Yeah. But so it's like it's like cost effective. So we had this theory that our school was doing it on admission days because it was in this valley and it would just be like wet and dreary for a lot of the time. And like we'd get like five feet of snow every winter. But then like one day in spring, it would just be like shitty for two weeks. And then the one day it's just beautiful. And it's the same day that like admitted students get to check it out. And we were thinking that they're they're paying up to cloud sea.
and that's and so like when you to like a to a layman out there who has never heard it because
that was news to me I didn't know anything about cloud seating before and I was like that's
that's actually wild and so a lot of different you know concoction of thoughts can come if you
if you start from that premise that the government is controlling the weather which in a sense
is what's happening, but not, not really.
Like, they can't, like, if the government could control the weather,
they would obviously stop hurricanes.
And seeing, this is where the conspiracy mind will take you.
It's like, well, the government is causing hurricanes.
The government is causing tornadoes.
And so that's when it gets, like, really dangerous.
But Kim Trails, I don't want to go off too far without a saying,
it's not a thing.
Kim trails are obviously what they would be classified as Contrails, which is condensation in the air, which is, again, the science is not a scientist, but the heat exhaustion from the plane comes out in a cool atmosphere and it leaves that trail of condensation.
Like that's what the scientific explanation is.
It makes sense to me.
I said, I'm not a scientist.
go ahead bill contrails form as moisture in the air condenses and freezes around soot particles and jet engine exhaust in certain conditions contrails can spread and merge forming thin c i r r u s clouds covering thousands of square miles they can persist for hours and warm the atmosphere so there is a global warming impact by contrails but it's not dangerous to the people below yeah so they're saying like it is
combustible engines in the air
are a cause for global warming
but the actual things that they leave is not
I think there was actually an argument too
from one of the articles I was reading from
a science outlet was saying that even if you were to spray chemicals
that high in the air that they couldn't make their way down
depending on the chemicals but I don't think they could
they could make their way down and affect people in the way that the conspiracy lends itself
to be.
But there's been study after study about these.
I think one of the more popular ones was the Carnegie study.
I don't know if you ran across that one.
Did you run across that one?
And I think it was in 2016.
I'm not mistaken.
There was a Carnegie study where they took.
they literally went after this exact concept.
They said we wanted to establish a scientific record on the topic of secret atmospheric spraying programs
for the benefit of those in public who haven't made up their minds, said Stephen Davis of UC Irvine.
The experts, we surveyed resoundingly rejected contrail photographs and test results as evidence of large-scale atmospheric conspiracy.
So it actually has been studied by a lot of people, and that is never.
enough for people who believe conspiracy they're they're always in it but but i was looking at a
harvard study and just like all the all the big institutions that had actually researched it it's
kind of sketchy because they are all the institutions that are sometimes the bad guys and conspiracies
being like the the the carnegie's and the rock fellers and harvard as a whole but it is pretty
debunked another uh part of the kem trail conspiracy is that the united states air force published
in 1996, a
report about weather modification
and that sort of
included some of these cloud seeding notions
and then
another impact of just
people not knowing science is that
contrails rather
tend to look different depending
on the climate of
the thousands of feet up in the air
they're taking place
so sometimes some contrails
will look wider than others
or they'll have different
patterns and that's totally
dependent on
the wind
up there, the humidity,
the dryness, the temperature,
and it causes the contrails
to take different forms.
So people would see different,
they'd be like, look, that doesn't look like a regular
contrail, that must be something different.
That must be one of the chemical spraying planes,
which would fuel the conspiracy.
Can I say about Kim Trails, though?
A lot of conspiracy theory.
uh pretty dumb like flat earth it's just not flat like it just isn't kim trails good conspiracy
theory i don't think it's a bad one this is why it was kind of intriguing to me i'm like it would
be it would behoove the government to do the things that people who think kim trail's real
are accusing them of doing i think it like and so what does it for me is like i think there's
there's more efficient ways to do it than that right well yeah they control the media what
I think there's even more efficient ways.
Mind control, just do it.
Everybody, everybody showers.
If you're going to do it, do it through our water system.
I think Alex Jones is on that, the fluoride.
There you go.
That makes more sense than doing it in the air.
But what threw me for a loop was this cloud seeding thing.
That really, like if I am a conspiracy theorist,
I don't know how I get past that, that the government controls weather.
Like, I don't think they control whether, like, they do it for different things.
They can, they can kind of push a rainstorm, like to help droughts.
They can do these kind of things, which I didn't know it was possible.
I had no idea.
And that is a wild notion.
And granted, I have not looked into that aspect of it deeply enough to make any kind of, like, poll conclusions.
but the fact that they can
manipulate matter
in the way that can
I mean
manifest weather
that's interesting
it's just an interesting thing
it's not just our government that does that
China does that
I'm sure there are many other governments that have
utilized this technology
it's fascinating
I don't know what else is that that is a fascinating
aspect to this conspiracy
that blew my mind when I first started
researching. But you know what's wild?
The U.S. government has
sprayed stuff on
the U.S. population.
Yeah, yeah. Get into that.
So the U.S. government did Operation
LAC, standing
for large area coverage. And it was
a United States Army chemical
corpse operation which dispersed
microscopic zinc cadmium
sulfide particles over much of
the United States and Canada in order to test
dispersal patterns in geographic range of chemical or biological weapons.
So there were several tests that occurred where they sprayed these chemicals from C-119 flying
box cars, which if you were a plane enthusiast, you'd probably be able to give us more information
about.
The first one was in September 1950.
Six simulated attacks were conducted on the San Francisco Bay Area.
It was concluded that it was feasible to attack a seaport city with biological aerosol agents
from a ship offshore.
In 1952, five trials were conducted off the coast of South Carolina and Georgia,
and it was concluded that long-range aerosol clouds could contain hundreds of miles of travel
and large area coverage when disseminated from ground level under certain meteorological conditions.
And then in 1957, they did it in the North Sea east of Britain.
So they not only did in the U.S., they did it in Britain and in Canada.
and then the Army admitted to spraying in Minnesota from 1953 to the mid-1960s and then in St. Louis in the mid-1950s.
So they were spraying stuff all across the U.S.
And they're saying that the risk of, they say there's only anecdotal evidence that the zinc cadmium sulfide caused adverse health effects.
but with the U.S. government study done by the U.S. National Research Council stated,
after an exhaustive independent review requested by Congress, we have found no evidence that the exposure to zinc cadmium sulfide at these levels could cause people to become stick.
Still, the use of the chemical remains controversial, and one critic accused the army of literally using the country as an experimental laboratory.
So they straight up sprayed chemicals on the U.S. throughout the 20th century.
that is news to me
that shit's news to me
so this isn't necessarily
a conspiracy fit
in my opinion
well it
it takes a kernel of truth
and then extrapolates it
out to more
you know
bigger
no but this actually happened
yeah to a degree
it's not it's not
that's what I'm saying
it's a good conspiracy
you could find enough evidence
to like if you were a big time
Kim Trails guy
like have these bullet points ready to go
when somebody's like, you're a moron.
Be like, oh, really?
And list those off and like
you would know what you were talking about
and it would sound halfway plausible.
Yeah, do I think the government
is currently doing this
in any kind of wide scale or any?
No.
Do I know that they're not?
No.
I'll tell you, I know why they're not.
They can't get a plane in the air
to save their lives.
I would be inclined to believe it
if we could get an airplane
off the ground
you say you know what though
y'all can't even fly a plane
yeah that's how I know they're not doing it
I'll feel you
but I'd never heard of this before
that's crazy oh
it's called Operation LAC
yeah
long
long area coverage
and in 1966 the US Army
released
Basilis Globe Biggie
into New York City subway system
as a part of his field experiment
to test the vulnerability of subway passengers in New York City
to covert attacks with biological agents.
Yeah.
They've been spraying random stuff on us for a long time.
And like even when you think of stuff like the Tuskegee syphilis experiment
where they literally just injected a bunch of black people with syphilis.
Like they've done tests on the population without any remorse.
That's true.
Which is wild.
M.K. Ultra.
they are not above testing shit on on uh yeah okay i'm struggling right now because to call this
a conspiracy theory honestly i think the conspiracy because it's based in actual events it's a
continuation theory i'm okay with that verbiage because it didn't no pun intended
come out of thin air yeah yeah like
this shit happened
I mean who knows
and and I think
I think it preceded
the actuation of it preceded
the the theory
the conspiracy theory
so it was like
yeah
what did you think
was gonna people were gonna think
like they caught on
and then they released all day
when did they release these documents
about the LAC
I think
there's LAC
there was Operation Due
which is the one
in Georgia, I believe, in South Carolina.
Yeah.
When was it declassified?
It was declassified in the 90s with a bunch of stuff.
250 pounds of fluorescent particles from minesweeper off the coast.
250 pounds of gas is a shit ton of gas.
Because think about it.
Like, gas weighs nothing.
And then they did a second one in 1953.
So it was declassified in 1997.
Jeez.
Wow.
I mean, think about what they did.
And so they're saying, yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's the stuff that's still classified in Mar-a-Lago.
So they're saying that they came out with studies,
subsequently that said they didn't have any ill effects there was no ill effects that was
calculable amongst the human population that's what they're saying i don't necessarily find that to
be what was it was it lead there was a study that came out a while ago that was saying high
levels of lead caused an increase of like erratic behavior or violent behavior or something like
that everyone which yeah yeah which was which is an actual thing like this is like
study data i mean i mean study science like um what was it everyone uh everyone since
february in 1975 when regular gasoline had to take away lead uh in 1986 gasoline became
completely lead free and there's a huge drop in generational crime after those data points yeah
because all the kids who grew up huffing the lead in the air they didn't have to huff lead anymore
because they got rid of the lead and the gasoline.
And they think that gasoline was leaded,
and they actually blame a lot of, like, the World Wars.
A lot of violence was linked to it.
So gasoline was first leaded in 1923.
Okay, so after World War I.
And they think that it caused a lot of people to go nuts
in the 20s and, like, Great Depression,
resulting craziness
might have been because of the leaded gasoline.
Recent investigation by Routers found that
lead exposure affects kids and communities across the country
not just high-profile cities like Flint, Michigan.
This is worrisome because elevated blood levels
and kids have been linked to an array of developmental delays
and behavioral problems.
More ominously, this could also increase crime.
And so this was highly studied.
I remember reading about this a while ago,
but not to get in that, because that's a whole topic.
That's a whole topic in itself, but just to get back to how chemicals can affect people's behavior.
And I'm going to put my conspiracy hat on this one, dog.
I'm wearing a tin hat on this one.
I'm not so sure that, you know, I'm skeptical of the government in general, but like, this one kind of blew my mind, honestly.
I'm not so sure about this one.
like what did you call it big tea
well you said it's not really a conspiracy there
I said it's a continuation theory
you're extrapolating from things that are true
to things that may or may not be true
yeah like I said I don't think that they're currently doing this
I think there's more efficient ways
and I think even the even the operation LACC
I think those are just tests right
they weren't actually harmful chemicals
were they
apparently
but like
like we just found out that the burn pits
in Iraq and Afghanistan
were killing U.S. troops
and you know
we and they had no idea like
let's see it hold on
zinc cadium
cadmium zinc cadmium sulfide
zinc cadmium sulfide
um put on this screen
I'm a reading over here
is used for fluorescent properties.
Bioaccumulation of this chemical may occur along the food chain, for example, in plants and seafood.
Long-term, repeated exposures are expected to have harmful effects on the kidneys, bones, and respiratory tract,
resulting in kidney impairment, osteoporosis, and chronic inflammation of the respiratory tract.
Use Operation LAC, that's what we were talking about, was a United States Army Chemical Corps operation.
in 1957 and 1958 which dispersed microscopic zinc cadmium sulfide particles over much of the United States
the purpose was to determine the dispersion in geographic range of bio oh so they were saying so their
their their argument is that because of the fluorescent of it there so that they can like kind of scan
and see how and where a chemical attack could be vulnerable to yeah that's so that's there
and they use that specific chemical because of its bioluminescent traits.
Yeah, so they're trying to see if, you know, Russia sprayed anthrax over the United States how it would travel.
So I get why they did it, but there's also...
They said, hold on, they said anecdotal evidence.
So they said exists of this chemical having adverse health effects as a result of LAC.
However, and this is a fucking asterisk in my book, a 1997 U.S. government study.
I love when the government investigates itself or like a police department investigates itself.
That's always a fun.
A government study done by the U.S. Natural Research Council stated in part after an exhaustive independent review requested by Congress,
we have found no evidence that exposure to zinc cadmium sulfide at these levels could cause people to become sick.
Yeah.
That said, the material was dispersed at very low levels and people were exposed to higher levels in typical urban environments.
So they're saying they're more exposed to them in regular environments.
I mean, I would have to look at the study.
I don't, that's, I'm not going to make a determination on the fly like this.
Like I said, this is all new information to me.
But in the great words of the replacement of chef goose gusto, highly suspect.
There is a, so I was reading this Harvard.
study talking about their research on albedo modification definitely didn't pronounce that right we work on
theoretical proposals for combating global warming called solar solar geoengineering or albedo
modification there are technologies that might enable people to add materials to the east to the earth's
atmosphere to reflect a bit more sunlight back space partially masking or reducing the climate change
due to accumulate greenhouse gases so some are saying that you know the government may be doing it to
combat global warming but they said we are confident there's no currently active programs to
actually test or implement albedo modification outdoors so yeah this is one of this is just out my
wheelhouse i don't know enough about any of this to combat it so this is all just new information
coming at me yeah in my fake pause um and uh it's just it definitely gets the definitely gets the
I'm definitely against the wheels turning.
I'd have to look.
I'm going to look deeper into the study,
the 1997 government study that says there's no adverse effects that they found.
I think, you know,
if the government was really trying to kill us through chemicals,
I think there would be a much better, you know,
application method than spraying it like thousands of feet in the air.
Yeah, I'll give you a real.
What would be a good way to get people to ingest chemicals that might kill them?
Like a really direct way.
I don't know that that's ever been tried.
I'll give you a real conspiracy theory.
The Kim Trails conspiracy theory in quotation marks was started by the government to, as you said,
Arian, have people, hey, look over here while I'm doing the card trick over here.
and they're putting shit in the water
and maybe in other things
that they get the entire media apparatus
of the country to tell people
that they have to get
or they're going to die.
Uh-huh.
Talk that anti-Vax talk, man.
That could be,
if you were to create a conspiracy theory.
Talk that Andrew Wakefield shit, dog.
Talk to Andrew Wakefield shit, dog.
I don't know who that is.
I'll have to look into him.
He's the, he's the, he's the dip shit
that started the conspiracy that vaccines
cause autism uh okay don't yeah you know no his study is fraudulent read it it's like very short
i'm i'm looking at them right now arian you won't debate rfk junior i absolutely would i would
rfk call on the podcast debate aryan please i'm down i'm down i would have to i would have to spend
the next like month researching uh because the one thing i do give him is he's very well uh read
on his his bullshit absolutely
but do numbers
yeah absolutely
I also want to ask him about falconry
because it turns out he's really
big into falconry
are you
I recently got involved in some falconry
he's been banging this falconry drum for a while
coming soon
is you like
you just like fouls in general or like what is
Falcons
Falcon is
foul isn't that oh is that a foul oh actually that's a good point like is it i thought foul
i thought that was just chickens is that yeah no no foul i could be wrong i don't know enough i don't
know i have no idea a falcons a raptor but i've only heard chickens referred to as foul and ducks
are foul turkeys are foul okay turkey foul yeah those are all in the same categoryish yeah
lowland foul
um
so do we have any uh
voicemails
no not this week oh no voicemails
you can keep going i don't
did you just
you want to be done
I'm not short circuit
that was a rather abrupt
end I think we can
we're lost without the plane man
I think you can just keep going
for a little bit longer
uh
so chem trails
I had literally not
Even heard about this before this
Me neither
Like when you said that in the group chat
I was like I don't even know what that is
You guys have never heard of chem trails
No
That's pretty crazy
How did you never hear of Kemptrails
So wait
Kemp Trails over the country club
What do you think that was about?
What's Kemp Trails over the country club
The Lada del Rey album
Oh no
I don't know
Oh you guys
I was going to say I don't know what that is either
I was like over the country club
I don't know what I was like
You guys
you guys aren't true lontics i am not a true i'm not i never i'm not a true lenatic yeah hmm
taste way got these girls basically not listening to real real music do you mean taylor swift
when you say that yeah oh sorry i i is that i have nothing against her no i don't i don't
the fact that you don't know chem trails over the country club is pretty telling i didn't say it was
It was, I think that's shots at the lenatics.
I'm sorry, Lenatics.
I didn't mean for that.
I think if you're a lenatic that, you know, these Taysway fans are disrespecting her
dystography.
What if I just cause a war between the Lana Del Rey fans and the Taysway fans?
Why you keep saying T-Sway?
Isn't that what you call her?
T-Swift, maybe?
I feel like Lana Del Rey fans are like chill.
Like they would, they were like, yeah, we have no beef.
Like, they would just not care.
Do they have like a, do they have like a, a,
Colt following like this
Swifties. I don't think so.
Lana Del Rey. I mean,
she's got fans. She's got a lot of fans.
I like her. I don't think they're
like the Swifties or even like the
Bayhive's. No, definitely
not. Or like, what are
it, the Barbes? Yeah.
Nicky. Barbes. They're crazy.
I've never heard of a lot of Del Rey fans
being on any of that kind of level.
No, not at all. No, not at all.
Billy is apparently leading the front.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's me.
Billy talks about Lana Delray
more than any single person I know talks about.
The Broke King.
Yeah.
I'm the bros for Lana.
Yeah.
I'm going to make that button.
Start a Facebook group.
I can still wear buttons.
Yeah, like a budding, like women for Trump, bros for Lana.
Yeah.
People still wear buttons?
Yeah, like around voting season, like weird election people.
And like I see people put them on their tote bags.
SEC football games, sororities, big into the buttons.
That's so true.
Oh, yeah.
Katie loves the tag.
They all say the exact same thing, yeah.
With different with their names.
Insert sorority loves the insert school you go to.
Wow.
Interesting.
Katie loves the taggers.
That's interesting.
I don't know that I've ever worn a button and I'm thinking about it.
We should make buttons.
Macrodosing buttons.
Someone made us some actually because I have one pinned on my desk.
That's the Enron logo.
It's probably that we made.
The macro Enron logo.
Foster commenter.
Someone made me, someone made us all buttons.
Uh, Zach Riddle, maybe.
Yeah.
He does him for Erica too.
Wow.
Buttons are kind of wild when you think about it.
I've never just thought about buttons.
Like, oh, I thought a lot about buttons.
Stabby, stab.
What?
What, bro?
Okay, hang on, hang on.
Everybody stop.
I want to dig into both of what y'all just said because they're both very interesting to me.
First, I want to know, Arium, what you meant when you said buttons are really interesting.
I mean, I mean, think about like, it's like a clothespin on a little piece of metal with a paper over it and black.
It's just like a wild thing to put together just to show like, I guess, support or something.
I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, it's an accessory.
Yeah, like I just never have thought to, hey, I'm going to wear a button.
It's an interesting thought to wear a button.
A button is the hat of the shirt.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Now this conversation is.
making me realize why some people think that we maybe ingest three cheat before we record
this show stabby stabby yeah now I want to get to what you said can you elaborate upon that
I just my first memories of buttons is accidentally stabbing myself somehow with them like trying
to put them on my t-shirt would you say stabby stabby yeah no just my brain like word
association it just went there double it up though
stabby stabby stabby stabby
I don't think I've ever heard anyone
say that
I thought it was a reference I didn't understand
No I just like stabby stabby
Like I stabbed myself
I just remember just
That's what buttons do
They stab your fingers stab your chest
Ah
I remember that part about buttons
Yeah
stabby stabby
No no no no
I remember my mom used to have buttons
And I remember me always like
taking like the first like layer of skin
and piercing it and then buttoning it up.
You know what I'm saying?
Or was that just me?
I get I would do it to my cuticles.
Yeah, like dead skin like on the sides or whatever.
You know what I would do that a lot.
Or putting needles through your heel.
Like not about through but like the dead part of the skin.
I know what you're talking about.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Or someone else would try to put a button on you and accidentally stab you.
Nah.
Then you'd be.
bleeding or like prom like the corsage oh yeah those are like the butaneer yeah boot near was
tough work mm-hmm booting ear sounds like way more cool than it actually is yeah like oh go get
your booting ear but it's just like a flower yeah hey uh are any of y'all big on uh dream
interpretations yes yeah yeah this have some crazy dreams do you know about them uh like i tell you i had
a dream could you tell me uh i'll google it for you all right so i had a wild fucking dream last night
and so y'all know i'm expecting right so i'm not but you know yeah we're expecting
my aunt got fucking pissed when she heard someone say that that we're expecting yeah because she was
like i'm like when i was having a kid i was having the kid like we're not having i was having the kid
it was me i feel you i feel you i don't feel none of that shit yeah it's real no she just freaked out
about it recently and I was just like, whoa.
That she looks painful, bro.
I don't knock her.
But, so I was with the Shorty and we had somebody's house and my brother used to stay there.
And all of a sudden, she's like probably a month and a half, two months out from delivering, right?
In real life.
And in my dream, I assume it was the same thing.
And so it was way premature.
She just goes into labor and she goes into labor like,
maybe it took 30 seconds and the baby comes out and I'm she she starts having pains and she starts
and I ask are you having contractions and as she's laying down and I'm asking that the baby's
sliding out and I'm like yo it's wow right but then the baby comes out yo and this niggas starts
walking I wasn't prepared for this you I was scared as fuck so I could I like I the baby comes out
I'm holding it and then I put it down and it just gets up and it starts walking.
And I was like, hey, yo, might have been the scariest shit I've ever seen in my lap.
Okay.
I had no idea what the make of it.
I don't know what it means.
I don't know if it means anything.
That shit's scary, though.
Maybe it means your baby is going to be like really smart, like really ahead of the curves.
The only thing I could find is dream.
So this is, this is submitted to a Hindu blog.
I keep dreaming
I keep dreaming my wife
is giving birth
and he says
it means that new beginnings
and your luck will change
you will be able to come out difficulties
there will be increase in income
oh increase in income
it will also be a sign that you will forgive
and you'll be able to solve differences
with family members
hmm
that's from the Hindu blog
I'm interested in any of that
except for the increase of income
I keep having
I keep having
I keep having dreams that like I get
like oh I had this one dream
where you know how you don't know
how you get there in dreams
yeah that's frustrating
yeah but like you don't remember how the dream begins
well the dream began with a police officer
knocking on my window
and I was in a car
and I was in the driver's seat
and the police officer was like
like you're under arrest you're intoxicated and I was like what the fuck
and I just had this crazy anxiety and then I woke up
I was like thank God that I can see that yeah don't drink and drive man yeah
but I don't I wake up like having to double check like like check my phone like
okay wait that was that real like sometimes they're so like serious another one I was
accused of murder oh no actually this is kind like being accused of
crimes that I don't remember doing because
the dream starts with just getting accused
of it. Yeah, what's? And then I wake up like, I didn't
do that. Maybe you have
no, I haven't done any crimes.
Dreams.
Hard pivot, but
while we've been recording,
remember we were talking about Margot Robbie earlier,
there's apparently
currently ongoing
debate on Twitter.
Several people have been calling Margo
Robby earlier.
mid and so there's a people are going back and forth either staunchly defending the take that she
is mid or that she's really hot i just found that interesting not mid i really not mid for margot robbie
you think margot robbie's mid i do that's that's i don't think she's a i don't think she's an
ugly woman but like i don't look at her like you like your jaws on the floor or no i don't look at
something like that.
But you said mid.
Yeah,
I think she's like I said,
mid does not mean bad.
I know,
I know,
no,
I'm with you.
I'm with you on this.
I think we've talked about this.
Like people say mid to mean bad.
It doesn't mean bad.
It means mid.
But she's not mid.
Hold on.
Who says mid to mean bad?
No,
no,
most people don't know
where that comes from.
Mid is like the middle.
It's like,
I agree.
Right.
But mid is used to cut down
because it's when it's used to cut down stuff
that people think are good.
Yeah.
When people say mid, they mean it sucks.
Understood.
Well, whatever verb is going to use,
I don't think she's an ugly woman.
No, I think,
I think she's a pretty woman.
It's just nothing that I would like never,
like you like on some top five alive.
And I don't think so.
10 for sure.
If you're being accused of something you didn't do,
certainly 10.
You found the Indian blog?
Yes.
This one actually is dream dictionary.com.
If you're being accused of something you didn't do
seems to be reflecting some aspect of your walking life
that you were feeling wrongfully judged, blamed, or guilty about.
The main objective of these dreams
would be for you to reflect in what areas
you are feeling blamed for no reason.
Yeah.
Workplace environments
for some underlying accusation that falls under the radar.
Hmm. Yeah.
Does this ring about, am I being falsely accused of something?
They always getting blamed for shit, man.
That's actually true
Sweet
That's hilarious
All right
Well shit man
Is anybody got anything else man
I know it's a little short episode
But we're missing
El Capitan today
But anybody got anything else
Oh man
Wrongfully imprisoned
Dream meetings
You'll be all right
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