Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Woodstock

Episode Date: August 31, 2021

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We have to pay for those. Right, Billy? Yeah, it kind of sucks. How much of that shirt costs you? It really costs like 30 bucks. Damn. I had to get it off the store. Which is a great deal.

They're great shirts. Yeah, steel if you ask me. Oh, yeah. It's huge steel. I thought I would get like, you know, like a discount. No, it's cool. Not yet. You got to earn that discount.

You know what? Barstool is, we should actually come out with their own credit card. But not to give to other people just for like people that work here to buy Barstall merchandise, make that. that, make that APR on the back end. Build Billy's credit up. Yeah, exactly. Credit episode had a lot of hot talk coming in after it.

A lot of people that were like, you guys don't know shit about credit. Yeah, that's why we did the podcast so we could learn so that you guys could teach us. Actually, the biggest, the biggest takeaway from last week's episode was that Arian Foster has an 840 credits. I think you just wanted to do the credit episode so that you could say publicly that you had a perfect credit score. That was it. I just wanted to stun all you all you. Yeah, mission accomplished.

I actually, I had a conversation with Vibs the other week here. He was doing lowering the bar where he basically just tortures us on camera for a while. And he asked me if I was if I was stunting because I had a necklace around like a big chain for Dave and Busters. And then he started asking me about flossing. And I didn't know the difference. What's the difference between like bawling, stunting, and flossing? Do you guys know? I would say

bawling just means you got bread right that means you just got it Stunton I guess Stunton and and Flossing can kind of be synonymous I guess

I guess Stunton is like more so yeah and okay Stunton is more so like a show you put up like in front of a club or something like oh he's stunning like you're doing that shit to

you don't show out Flossin is more like it's for you but other people notice Yeah. Okay, that makes sense. So flossing, like, it's like when women say that they get all dressed up sometimes. It's like, I do this for me, not for you guys. Yeah, but it's definitely for other people, but it's for you as well. It's like for everybody, man. Okay. I like that. Fuck Mary Kill, floss and ball and Stutton. Coley. Well, first, I'm going to say the internet in the office is terrible today, just terrible. But, yeah, I mean, I think you have to marry. ballin i'm gonna kill stunton because i do think stunton doesn't necessarily mean you've got it like balin you you got it stuntin you could have just like you might have it in that moment but it's not like arian's 840 credit score it's not a part of your essence so then i'm i'm fucking flossing

that's like the best buy juice and the sauce that video you know yeah yeah yeah or Gucci explaining it as well yeah big tea you look good today thank big tea is in like high tennis C mode right now. I'm dressing the same way every day this week. We play Thursday, so we're rocking the UT polo and khaki shorts every day this week. Got to get in, got to get game ready. You do look like an assistant coach. I think Coley said that at the start of the show, but this is the official coaching polo shirt? No, this is, I got this college world series. But no, we got, we have several of those from the last however many seasons. We'll rock them this week. I like this week because we've got, this is the first time in history of the show that Big T and Arian

or, you know, two diehard University of Tennessee football fans, and you guys are like, it's game week. I can see the light in Arian's eyes right now. He's like, I love these kids. I think we've got a good group this year. Yeah, I'm like, you know, I can't, who we got this week, Big T? We got Bowling Green. We're 34-point favorites.

Joe Milton was named the starting quarterback today. He looks, he's looked good in camp. It's look good in camp. It's good for them, man. I'm happy that. and what's the what's the status on how many how much how much money has the starters made in tennessee is anybody keeping the track of that well we we do have the player at tennessee right did we ever officially do that do we reach out to him the aryan foster uh university of

tennessee player of the year the guy that like hates the system well it was can we say who it is or who reached out yeah it was tyler baron who's like a pretty good really good player um reached out to macrodosing him i i guess he listened to the show because like we didn't he like dm before we like tweeted about it i think yeah yeah i think he said he either listened to show or like one of his friends listened to the show and was like hey i know someone like that tyler baron tyler baron i like that that's a cool name too so that's the official macrodosing name image likeness player of the university of tennessee that's and it sponsored an arian foster's name so we got to send him some shit yeah we got to

I get some brand, fuck sending in some shit. We got to get there for some money. I want him to stunt on campus. That's what I want to do. Okay. All right, Tyler, we'll send you some cash. But the rule is you have to buy something crazy with it. Not crazy, but like buy something so you can floss just like a little bit.

It's for you. If other people happen to notice you flossing, that's cool. But yeah, do people floss in Tennessee? Sorry, that was bad. That was a bad joke, Big Team. Sorry. I didn't know which. You have to have two teeth to floss.

Yeah. That's the issue. See, you're talking a lot about Mississippi and Alabama right now, and I don't appreciate it. Also, that's kind of controversial, though. Like, a nigga with one, too. I mean, he's feeling like you can get around it. Yeah. That's just polishing.

That's like washing the side of the car, though. That's a, I mean, that's a hot topic. We need a dentist opinion on that. If we have any dentists that listen to the show, is it consider flossing if it's just one, two? Mm-hmm. I think it's just wiping it, wiping her down is what they call it. A bunch of Tennessee players on cameo and signing with like local insurance companies and Mexican restaurants.

I saw yesterday some shop in Knoxville selling a shirt that like any player that opts in gets like part of the proceeds from it. Okay. Well, we should we should make a shirt send it. It's Tyler Barron, right? I want to make sure I get that right. Tyler, how do he spell his last name? B-A-R-O-N.

Is he named after? Trump's kid? I don't believe so, no. By the way, how fucking hilarious would it be if Barron Trump became like a first round draft pick in the NBA? He's got length. He's huge. What if he became an all-star?

Fire. How tall is he now? Your content. I think he's like six, eight. Is he really? He can't be that time. No, no, no, he's pretty six-seven. He's six-seven.

I think he's 15. Yeah, he's six, seven, 15 years old. Have we talked about, I've got a theory about Trump and Barron. I don't know if we've talked about it on this show or if I've just talked about it offline, maybe in one of our pre-show chats, that Donald Trump, like, somewhere inside of his brain, he wants to kill Barron. Because Barron's, he's grown bigger than him. And Trump is very much like, you know, he's an optics guy. He sees his son now as a threat. Like how a lion, you know, like an older lion, sometimes they'll kill one of their own.

lion children if it looks like that lion is going to take over the pride eventually like Trump wants an alpha son because the two that he has right now certainly are like what's the opposite like zeta there's zeta omega omega omega males so he wants it he wants an alpha son but I feel like baron became a sigma male like even bigger than the alpha and so now Trump is like he's definitely thought about killing baron is what I'm getting at But how would he kill Barron? I mean, if he's, Barron is like, Baron looks like the kid who, like,

you're like, there's no way that his thyroid is producing at a normal level. That's the Trump DNA. Like, you know how, like, you know how kids are like really, really, really tall at a really young age? It's like they have like an overactive thyroid or something. Like, that's how I feel like Barron is. But it's like, what's Trump going to do? Trump's also like, what, 75? Yeah, but he's in the best shape of his life.

Is he? Oh, 6.4.220, twisted blue steel. He's 6.3.2.30 same metrics as Derek Henry. Yeah. And he's just a very different 6.2.30. He's actually in better shape than you, Billy. How come? Right. What are you? Right now, I'm like 6.4, maybe 2.10. Yeah. Yeah. He's more jack than you are. No. Dude, I was, I was pretty heavy a year ago. And I'm like pretty happy. I got it down. So Billy is wearing like the really low profile. hat right now he came in the studio you look like a hungover chick i'm not just wears the really low what's what's going on with that seven oh really yeah i've been blogging damn sorts of stuff what'd you write about today uh well i wrote a jake paul piece that over saturation on jake paul right now so i'm releasing it later in the week and then i got some uh sam ellinger stuff coming out wait the jake but the way you just described it that sounds like maybe some sort of editor-in-chief gave you some feedback

on when to release that blog. Is that? No, I just have it in the holster. Okay. But, yeah, then I had to do a bunch of other things. And what are you doing? I very publicly told Marty Mush to blog at 1 a.m. last night because of the relevancy about Jake Paul.

I would for sure not tell someone to push it back a week. No, I was writing it then also researching for the show and had a pretty jumbled morning. But speaking of Jake Paul, wait, wait, wait. I like that Billy's Explosalies. for why he's not releasing the Jake Paul blog the day after the Jake Paul fight. That's Homer Simpson like not selling his pumpkin stock

until mid-November. I got a feeling it's about to peak in about three weeks. So we do need to talk a little bit about Jake Paul because Billy didn't want to talk about it today. Well I said like if we were looking to cut on show, that was definitely something that would

take up like two hours. I want to hear Billy and Aryan discussed the fight last night in your expert opinions um tyron woodley from a non-metric perspective totally dominated that fight so just from like a a dude perspective yeah from a dude perspective not from like a boxing scoring perspective just from being the aggressor in the ring like basically just cornering jake paul the whole time walking him down and then all those like spacing jabs that Jake Paul threw and landed just added up and like scorecard wise he won but you think I mean you I was just say you can tell you can tell uh T. Willie didn't like he's not

a boxer right and so like even even his his stance as he's like walking up you it's like an m-ma stance right and so it's like everything was real awkward and if he knew what he was doing that's what that's what that's what I get sick of this shit I get sick of this Jake Paul shit because it's like go go fight a real boxing right this is dumb this is just so dumb i hate this shit i hate it he's exploiting shit and this is this is going to be the precedent going forward for big fights it's going to be like celebrity boxing matches bro like that's what it's going to be and that's why i hate it and it is what it is like i'm over this life anyway like this shit is is just getting weird everything's getting weird i'm just over everything so it's like a it's like a

little correction though because boxing was so corrupt for the last you know like forever really like boxing has been the shadiest industry ever and then fighters realize that hey you don't have to have a promoter if you are your own promoter and so instead of having like a don king or somebody like that that's leaching off the sport a little bit and doing really underhanded stuff they're people that just realize hey listen you can i can sell paper views if people want to tune in watch me fight they need to do something about unifying the belts because that's really the only way that you're going to see like top tier boxers

be able to get paid like they used to unless it's the heavyweight championship like we've seen over the last couple years that's still going to be like an elite division but yeah they just kind of realize that people in today's side people just care more about fame really than they do about skill

yeah I think that's that's what bothers something about it to me because like I'm a fan of boxing as far as like the pure art of his concern like people like Mayweather boxes they hate watching Mayweather because it goes boring but like if you watch he's a fucking technician and he is an artist that is beautiful to watch if you love boxing

right actually actual boxing but if you just like want to see a bunch of haymakers and shit like Jake Paul's a guy like he thought he tired of shit in the fifth round like and this shit just looks ugly there's no there's no art to it it's just like I don't know it's gimmicky but it is what that's the world we live around

that's all full of gimmicks so it's like I'm just the thing is he like he's going to fight that Tommy Fury guy next who's also a terrible boxer but this time he's six foot like a larger person it's going to look more equal in the ring but he's not that good of a boxer even though he has six fights and like all of them were in England against like bums that his father who's like very connected to the mob there set up allegedly allegedly like that whole the English boxing circuit is also super And it's like right in there with like peeky blinders type dudes.

Yeah. Hold up, Billy. Billy, why don't you fight Jake Paul? I've been trying. The train is left the station, man. Here we go, Aaron. Here we go. The train is left the station.

He's going to fight Tommy Fury. And then he's going to get an old, like it's going to be like in three years. He's getting an old fighter like, you know, McGregor. He's going to do one fight with his brother, which is going to be like, everyone's going to be like jerking off. You got a troll, bro. That's all he does. That's all they do now. you got a truck you got a tough dude i don't have enough like there was a moment not really where

it could have happened no not at all but like i've zero clout it would have never happened like the train is left the station he's also gotten to the point where he has been training like non-stop for four years where the train has left the station you got to out yeah he he would he'd piece me i mean i think i think i'd be able to you know like i'd walk out looking like a hamburger like but i think i think i wouldn't let him knock me down but i'd get a couple pieces on well all right so there's one way that you could do it because you do the only way to make the fight happen would be if you were to out Jake Jake and so you just have to become a bigger troll than he is I gotta steal his hat you can you either steal his hat that's one good option or you could just you already look enough like a long lost Paul brother that you could pull this off where you just became you know like those women that get plastic surgery so they can look like a Barbie doll you should just get plastic surgery until you look exactly like Jake Paul and then try to fight him and then try to fight him. for his own name true maybe i have personal beef with jake paul because he's from my hometown and like no one from cleveland lice him at all i mean there's like a very very

the whole crowd was booing him yeah yeah like ever like i like i've known who he was since he was like doing vines in like 2013 or whatever like billy if you were to beat jake paul i would like personally pay you like a hundred thousand dollars no i mean it's never he's he's he's gotten with so actually funny enough at rough and rowdy Logan Paul's trainer was also training QCP a guy who boxed chef Donnie uh one of our four uh one of our Barstall employees awesome guy

was in his fight camp for a little and uh he beat QCP who was trained by Logan Paul's trainer and I was talking to him about uh after the fight I was talking to him about, like, the Logan Paul fight. Basically, it was like, yeah, I mean, if you have two guys, right, you have Logan Paul who probably walks around at 220 pounds, he's, what, 6-2, and you have Floyd Mayweather, who is what, how tall is Floyd Mayweather, like, 5, 6, and he fights at, like, back in the like 145, like there's a reason why there's weight classes, and even though they may have met

at a certain level, like Tyron Woodley and Jake Paul met at 190 pounds. like back in ancient Greece they separated these weight classes and sizes for a reason because there is unfair advantage no matter how good the boxer is and that's all the Logan Paul you know Mayweather fight was it was a bigger guy who didn't necessarily win the fight

but like because it was a draw just basically hugging and mobbing did not win at all right of course who you don't think Mayweather won the fight on the scorecard yes you said you used I misspoke. I mean, I thought about Jake Paul didn't necessarily win it all.

He got his ass whoop. He's just big as fuck. Yeah, Logan. I'm talking about Logan beating May. Logan getting his ass beat by Mayweather, but he didn't get knocked out. Like, you know, that was the same premise. That's the same premise why Woodley didn't necessarily beat Jake. But like the scorecard, like if you hit a guy with a jab, like, for example, when I first started boxing, they threw me in the ring with a very good boxer who was smaller than me.

but I was able to just keep spacing jabs and technically win rounds on a scorecard because I'm a terrible boxer but I was able to just touch him more than he could touch me and that's points. The thing is like... Another aspect of it is like, like, this is where I thought Willie would be better in this aspect.

When fighters know that somebody on the ropes, not literally, but like figuratively, like when you... Like, when you smell blood in the water and you go, like the dog and you... But like Willie didn't do that. Like, there's a couple of times he had rocked him. And if he's, like, rushing, like, he, the fight's over.

He would have knocked him out. But, like, for some reason, like, he would just get one shot in and, like, admire his work. Now. And you post, you're supposed to go. And I don't, I'm, that's, I thought that was, like, regular hood shit. You smell blood, you go. Now, you know, that's. You just wouldn't go.

I didn't get it. Now, MMA fighters, and I've, I've read about this, MMA fighters don't do that because, um, did you see when Nate Diaz hit in his last fight when he, like, in the last round he clocked the guy and heard him good and just pointed at him and didn't rush him. Yeah. So like MMA fighters, when they hurt a guy, that's when it's the most dangerous rushing in because that's when the flying knee happens. That's when the kick happens. So they actually don't do that, which is funny. Like, I mean, I remember Joe Rogan was talking about this. Like even before this fight happened, like M.A fighters, you're not supposed to rush in when you

hurt a guy like so that might be the reason why he didn't like chase him down in the corner and take when he knocked him on the ropes why he didn't jump him like you know they're thinking like you know he could lock up will be somehow because they grapple yeah yeah or yeah but even though it was boxing his instincts probably took over i don't really get it though if you're fighting in mhm and you get tagged you get hit right on the chin and you're woozy and you're backing away they're saying that that's when that person's at their most dangerous yeah it's like buckle? Yeah, no, I'm serious. It's like, I feel like this is just Joe Rogan doing a heat I don't know. I don't know. He's like, I wonder, I wonder how much bullshit I can get Billy to

believe if I say. Well, he did say, he did say that, but like there are guys have gotten knocked out rushing in after hurting a guy because basically, for perspective, like, I do, I do Jiu-Jitsu. Yeah. And in Jiu-Jitsu, it's, to me, it's like one of the best art forms of fighting that there is, like real fighting because like when I was first studying it like they teach it like as a lifestyle and my professor was like um this is it's not really like it's not just like body it's going to do it for just for cardio and stuff it's like the lifestyle that they teach right and one of the things that I got taught like when I was really that was like a profound philosophy right which is actually an interesting aspect when you think we think about like some of the best fighters

of all time have some of the greatest like philosophies of life like if you look at like Mike Mike Tyson right now, like his philosophy on life is fucking fascinating. Muhammad Ali, Bruce Lee. Like, all of these, all these are great martial artists that have really good philosophies on life. But one of the things that I was taught was like when, as I'm a butcher, when you're down on the ground, like when you're in a real fight and down on the ground, the ground is your ocean and not everybody knows how to swim. And so when dudes is on their back and they know Jiu-Jitsu, like that, I'm on my mom. I'm most comfortable when I'm on my back. I know what to do.

Like I feel very comfortable. And so like I get the hesitancy. That does make a little bit of sense, actually. That's the funniest thing. Like when you see jujitsu guys like on their back like crab walking, like tabletop crab walking. And you're just like like what? Yeah. What are you doing?

It's just like that seems like not like a like that doesn't look like a very menacing stance, but it is very dangerous. Because I don't think that there's any animal in the animal. kingdom that fights like that would like on their back i would willingly put themselves in a prone position like that to try to draw in another i don't know somebody's probably going to tell me how wrong i am because there's like a pit viper that that does the same thing like plays dead but uh yeah it's not like a natural looking fighting position but it also makes sense what erin's saying like the purpose of a fight most people think is like get the other dude on the ground and so you

spend all of your time trying to avoid the ground at all cost. But if you can can just like dominate something that somebody else is really uncomfortable with, it would make sense that that you'd have a good advantage there. So like my older brother, right, like he still thinks he could beat me up in a fight. And it's wild. I don't know why. Ego. But like so the other, like, it was like, like, probably like a month ago, like, I hope the family was visiting and we got hell of drunk. And he like, he started trying to rough me up. Like, you know how like, you know, They're pushing me and stuff. Like, bro, stop.

Like, you know, we're adults now. But he kept going and I just, I sat down on the floor. I said, come on. I just sat down on the floor. And I grabbed his ankle and I flipped him and he fell and I made him tap out. Like, it's just, you just know what you're doing. Like, it's just, it's just a different, it's a different thing there. Well, Billy, I have another way that you can fight Jake Paul.

How? Are you okay with kidnapping? You'd either have to kidnap. bro he has he has he has insane security like the guy the guy his former bodyguard was like a defense contractor in south africa the guy who died recently yeah he was like he has like mobbed up security like a like a like a dictator in a third world's country hires all right so i was going to say wait you wouldn't kidnap him uh you'd have to kidnap somebody close to him no and be like i'm only going to release this person what about kidnapping the robot

well if you they just build another one if you kidnap the robot I feel like Jake Paul you'd at least get his attention does he have a dog does he have a dog

I feel like he doesn't care he does I'm not gonna I will not endorse kidnapping a dog I will be in on that plan best I will definitely

kidnap that nigga dog he does have a dog I don't think is it a good boy it's a very good boy yeah I'm out he's just good boys

When you see that robot, is that like a direct affront to your religious idol, which is the Fox NFL robot? Cletus would beat the shit out of a robot. I think I have Cletus in under two rounds. They should do that as an undercard in the next fight. That's what I was saying. Have that robot fight my man Cletus. Is there a real Cletus? Doesn't matter.

Yes. There is. I've never seen. He's real to me. Yes, he's real. No, I know, but like have they. Hang on. He's real.

talking he's real but yeah billy if you kidnap jake paul's robot and be like i'm not giving this robot back until you fight me that's that's the only chance you have because you're right the train has left the station jake paul is not going to waste his time fighting against you right now that's something you have to catch him on the way up or you have to beat up some people and establish yourself as a fighter before you can challenge him if you kidnap his robot though that's like that's a personal affront to him that's the way to get he would do that to somebody by the way if there was another Jake Paul wanted to fight who had a robot, if you don't think that Jake Paul would kidnap that robot to make the fight happen, you're delusional. This is what he would do.

You need to lay something valuable on the tracks. I was really hoping he would lose last night and be like, hey, Jake, like, you know, like got a loss. Come to rough and rowdy, hone your skills and get back out there. Like, you're a rebound for it? Yeah, I'd be, I think I'd be a perfect rebound. But he's not going to lose. Why are you putting Jake Paul on his pedestal, Billy? Like, I don't like how you're talking about it.

I don't, I don't, but. Now, yes, you do. Yes, you do. I don't. I think he's, I'll be your rebound fight, Jake. Well, yeah, because that's the only way he could get him. That's the only way he could get him, bro. Talk shit to that.

Talk to that. Well, you got to be realistic. You got to be realistic. You got to talk shit until he says something. And if not, just keep talking shit. We're also, like, just completely ignoring the fact that, like, one of Jake Paul's good pals is the founder of the company we work for. I feel like it's a little easier to set up than we're making it out to be.

No, but he, but even even then, no, but if anything, Dave would get our friend Paul Bissanette of spin chicklets that fight. I would love that. That would be a great fight. And I think Bicenet would have done a, if he had as much training as Woodley did, I think he would have beat Jake Paul last night. You think so? Yeah, 100%.

If they're both on, is the fighting place on ice or no, it's at a boxing ring? boxing ring i like how you call him bisonette like how he says organization i actually he had such a weird pronouncing i've said it before right bisonette bisonette yeah there you go mistonette bisonette yeah pa more like paul mistinette yeah but he would i think he would absolutely pieced him because it's just it came down so woodley couldn't touch him like he couldn't get those easy points of that like two evenly sized boxers like just get but i Anyway. All right.

You guys want to talk about Woodstock? Yeah. Which one? So I recently watched the Woodstock 99 documentary. We could talk about the original as well. But the Woodstock 99 one, because I remember watching that live. I ordered it on pay-per-view because I heard the word of mouth, like one of my classmates was like, hey, all the chicks have their shirts off.

And so back then in 1999, you couldn't just like log on and find anything that you wanted online. And as a red-blooded 14-year-old, I was like, you know what? I think I have to order Woodstock-99. So we watched it, my friend's basement, and watch everything kind of unfold the way that's presented the documentary until it just became Woodstock 99 kind of big, that's, that was hell like the last night. The black, real quick, you know what the black version of that was? What's that? BET uncut. Yeah. So BET and Cut was like late night, they were playing like wild-ass videos that was just

like back then it was like a free porn channel yeah yeah and if you were lucky you would get a commercial for like girls gone wild that popped up then girls got wild is something that has definitely not aged well at all over the years looking back on it's like that's that's pretty creepy that that one dude made his entire living off of just like rolling around with a camera and then just videotaping drunk girls and then bouncing yeah that's weird got you on film now I'm going to sell it, and it's going to be all over late-night television. Your dad's probably going to see a commercial for it at some point. But, yeah, the 90s were a weird place, and the Woodstock 99 documentary does a pretty

good job of outlining, like, how much different that concert was from the original Woodstock in the planning and the type of acts that they had and the execution, just like kind of how the world had changed over the course of those years. So we could start with the original Woodstock, if you guys wanted to. Oh, yeah. Now, I feel like Woodstock was probably a pretty good concert. But I do think that it's one of those things that like boomers look back on. Think how bad your generation has to suck to be like, what are you guys known for?

Well, we had a good concert one weekend. That defined our era. It was like we had like a couple hundred thousand of us went to this field and it was overall pretty positive vibe. That's really not that big of a flex, is it? what do we have to compare to that uh two iraq wars i was saying i was a i was a gps dog i was talking to my man's about this the other day you know how much fucking time people wasted before gpsos like before before cell phones like can you imagine like yo meet me for pizza at 3 30 and like buddy you you didn't get

his message until you got back home and you thought niggins stood you up and he's like, damn, buddy didn't show up. It's been two hours. I'm gonna go. He didn't make it. He'd come back home. He's like, hey, man, sorry, I couldn't make it. I had it.

So it's just like, there's so much time. It was so inefficient. Niggas used to be inefficient. I couldn't, I couldn't imagine, bro. That shit was more. I had to drive from New Jersey all the way to Connecticut when we were going to interview Jim Calhoun. And I have no idea how anybody ever made that drive before they had GPS.

The amount of times I had to like make sure I took a certain exit going around New York City to get on the right road to then go off to Connecticut. Connecticut, it's crazy. Like, I, if you had to write that down or like look at a map before you're leaving, and I still remember, because I drove before GPS, I have no idea how the fuck I did that. It seems terrifying to me that I was a 16 year old and my parents just gave me the keys to a car and they're like, hey, go take this van and, uh, we trust that you'll be able to drive around Washington, D.C. It makes no sense how people were able to do it. Also, I guess, I guess, let me bang for that part of it a little bit. We were a little more, uh, uh,

I'm familiar with our surroundings than people nowadays, too, though. Like, it desensitizes you to your surroundings. Like, when we grew up in neighborhoods, like, we knew the neighborhood and we knew the place, you know what I'm saying? And also, like, it didn't used to be, like, take a left on Lake Avenue and go, you know, it was more like, okay, you're going to see this red truck. And when you see this red truck, you're going to bang that right. And then there was, there was landmarkers more so.

Right. So you, it was, people were more familiar, but still is so inefficient, man. Like, this is just way better. Yeah. I have a theory on that GPS thing. I think GPS is, like, I think GPS is, like, I think that muscle about directional awareness and getting to places, since we become so dependent on GPS, like you'll even see people in New York City, which is a grid system, looking at their

Google maps to find places, like, I think that muscle has gotten so weak and there's definitely different types of effects of that muscle getting weak that like whatever it is that makes us directly oriented is if it's like the amygdala or like something that thing is definitely weak and that's why i sometimes don't use GPS and drive places because i want to like make sure i can get there and still like exercise that muscle yeah go get lost people don't get lost anymore like when was the last time you pulled over and and went into a gas station you're like hey do you know how to get to this town because i used to have to do that all the time people it people just don't what's the name of the part of the brain i don't know i think it's either hippocampus

miglets one of those i definitely getting it wrong right now i hate that you know what the word hippocampus is i absolutely hate it because so i'm sorry this is taking a little bit off off the direction but i'm in a trivia league and i get these emails every morning with five questions and you can't cheat you don't look things up it's like an honor system because really if you're cheating in like an online trivia contest you're like i can't imagine sinking any lower in life than cheating in the online trivia contest that I don't get a reward for if I win, right? So one of the questions this morning was about a part of the brain that is named after the Greek

term for seahorse because it looks like a seahorse. And I was like, fuck, I know that it's hippo something. And I couldn't figure out what the suffix was. So after just thinking about it for a couple hours, I just said hippodrome or something like that. And it's hippocampus and Billy knew it. It actually is the hippocampus. Yeah.

All right. There we go. Homing signal in the brain. You know how I knew hippocampus? I don't know hippocampus. I don't know because meet the Robbinsons. Remember that movie? Yeah.

So in that movie, the little genius kid, the little genius adopter kid, who was like, I cracked the hippocampus. I got just forever stuck in my mind. It's a good name for a part of the brain. I don't like that PFT's constantly practicing for the dozen. No, these questions are way better than Jeff D. Loke had ever right. Right. Jeff Dillow wishes that he could write these. No, these are not like who won the AL MVP in 1994.

No, these are some deep-ass questions. Is this just like you and your friends or this is something you found online? No, it's like a massive league. There are like thousands of people that play in it. And it's like you have to get an invite from a friend. And then first year is free. They get you hooked on it like cocaine. And then you have to pay for it after that.

And so this is my third year. Yeah, low key, the hippocampus, it controls a lot of memory and the ability to remember several things. So are we all just brain dead because we've been hooked on GPS? I wonder if that's the first time anybody's ever uttered those words together.

It's like low key, the hippocampus stuff. People don't like to talk about it, but they have to camp. I mean, are we all just walking around? Our phones have us totally just like brain dead basically. Yeah. people forget that the hippocampus controls memory like if you you know if you use a certain sort of like no but think about it if you use like a crutch bill is right in other stuff

and now we just have weaker brains billions we've been dependent on the phone billy's right how long do you think you could go without using your cell phone but it's just such a dumb premise you don't bill i'm just saying yeah what like why when are wednesday are the internet going to cut out, like, what? Globally, like, you know what I'm saying? If you wanted to get a swole hippocampus, your hippocampus is all shriveled up. No, that is going to be what they're, what,

there's going to be an EMP at some point. We need to be ready for that. Nobody talks about that. They're not going to bomb us. It's going to be an EMP. Oh, yeah. Is that what you're saying? Yeah.

What's an EMP? Electromagnetic pulse. It's like, have you seen, have you seen a matrix? Maddo. No. Are Ocean's 11? Yes. So when they wipe out all the electricity.

in Las Vegas. Okay. That's from, it's called like a pinch. It's an atomic bomb, but there's no explosion. It just delivers, it knocks out all electricity. And Big Tee, you're saying that's going to happen to everyone? Someone who wants to do harm to someone, yeah. Is that like top?

We have backup generators for shit like that. Yeah, is that possible? Yeah, it's possible. Like in real life? Yes, absolutely. Ourson 11 is real, though. No, it is for sure. Ariens calling cap on it.

It's not cap. Bro, you don't think there's backup. Like, yes, I think we have something in place. There's literally like hurricanes that come and people have like backup generators for their houses. Like you don't think there's the backup generator? I am sure we have some measures in place.

But I think there are, I don't think we're prepared for what would actually happen if that hit. I think the biggest reason I'm like against it happening is you follow the money. Like even our servers are on Amazon. Amazon runs the internet in this country at this point. and that's who has all of our money. I'm sure Bezos is ready for an EMP. But the real thing is the sadlights aren't.

Because all the sad lights are going to have their electric. If we get hit by like some unexpected meteor, like, but even then, like we could see big enough meteors in far and advanced to where we could like have a defense for that as well. So it's just like it's not, it's possible, but it's just not very probable. And why are religious people, they, y'all want a doomsday. Like, y'all want a doomsday. Like, why is the weird shit in the world?

I don't want that at all. Bro, like, if you talk to religious people, like, and I'm not even anti-religious me, but I'm not anymore. But it's like, well. Y'all niggas want the world to end, bro. And, like, y'all find the most funny ways to think about the shit. But it's like you're always like you're rooting for this shit. You know, you have to have to.

I want it on the record. I am anti-EMP. I've said, you are totally pro-EMP. No. I, did you not listen to the last five seconds? No, you want it. I would have to revert back. No, it's the same mindset that he has when it comes to just being in constant fear that he's going to get accused of a murder that he didn't commit.

He's just in constant fear that an EMP is going to wipe everything out, but we should be prepared. I do not love thinking about it. I think you enjoy, to a certain extent, you like the fact that you think about it more than we do. No, I want a grand total of zero attacks on America ever. Okay. Just America? Oh. Well, that's, see, you are.

Always try these little, oh, let's twist things. Let's give it a little. I want, okay, let's just let's just go. Hold on. Why would you, why would you relegate your safe haven just in this little piece of. Well, because we were talking about, listen, okay, I went on record. I hope no one ever dies. I hope there is no war ever.

What about? I hope everyone lives in a perfect, beautiful harmony. What about you? Everywhere in the child molesters? See, this is, oh, no, control. You need to ask you to renounce. To be fair, hey, to be fair, Bigsy, to be fair, like this is what, like, philosophers did, like, way back in the day, right? They would just sit here and poke and prod at each other's thoughts.

We're philosophizing right now. So just, you know, just do what we do, man. Don't get, don't take it. Would you rather have everybody in America who's on death row get hit by an EMP? Or would you rather have a nunnery in rural Italy get hit? hit with an EMP and they're on dialysis um this is so that's so neither i want no i want nobody to ever get hit by an EMP but the EMP wouldn't do anything to the death rowing mates no i was going to say the opposite it would keep them alive right true no electric chair oh that's interesting

are you pro-despin legy bigson uh no i think there are in theory i am but there are too many misapplications and times that we've gotten it wrong. Bro, Dylan Roof is so worth the money to kill that guy. Like, you know how they say keeping a guy in prison for like the rest of his life is like cost, more cost effective than the legislative

Yeah, then the legislative proceedings of actually killing someone. Spend all that money on killing Dylan Roof because he just got it and I'm like, yeah, that's well spent money. Yeah, I like that big T's like in theory I would like to kill people. I think that the state should execute people.

but you know the best laid plans of mice and men don't always work out y'all are out of control i don't i don't think that the state should kill anybody and it sucks because when you say that then you have like if we're doing the philosophizing billy's like what about dylan roof and then i have to be then i have to like argue for him you're putting me into like that corner but i'm like no i don't think anybody should get it because there are there are mistakes that get made and it's not a deterrent it's proven to not be a deterrent for anything uh and it's yeah it's more cost effective to just like have people in prison for life also if you fuck up if you fuck up once and you kill an innocent person which we have we've definitely done that as a contrary that means

that we're all murderers so big t's your worst nightmare has come true has happened to you're actually if you pay taxes you're a murderer yep all right i'll wear that all right i do pay taxes So we need to get the not-a-murderer sticker that Big T has and cross-out not officially. A murderer. A-murderer. Sure. But Woodstock. So when you guys think of Woodstock, the original concert, what comes to your mind?

Free love. Jimmy Hendrix. Weed. My dad went. So that's what comes to my father. from Massachusetts to upstate New York and going solo like a sociopath.

That is crazy. Oh, yeah. He was... Does he have any estranged children? Listen, I think like my grandfather would take a one step further was a troop in Japan during

WW2 and he absolutely was playing his seat over there. So like I wouldn't be shocked for a much like six five Japanese people sticking out like a sore thumb, and that's like my cousin. Shohay Otani? But my father was a big hippie.

So he just went there on a bike and a backpack full of treats and just rolled up to Woodstock, made friends along the way. Maybe Woodstock was just the friends we made along the way. So, wait, was this before or after he got dosed by the CIA? After. Okay. So he made the bike ride from Massachusetts. How long did that take him?

did you're i cole did we cut out i might have cut out am i there now yeah you're here now yeah i think it was about a week okay damn that is a long time to bike yeah i mean he he wrote his bike to montreal for the olympics like he walked from massachusetts to new york just to see if he could do it he was a big fucking weirdo uh but he he biked to and i i remember i'm telling me distinctly like the the line of traffic to drive into woodstock was like miles upon miles for him on his bike just zipping through people turned out to be like faster than driving once you got near it yeah so 400,000 people went to the original woodstock and I feel like you couldn't pull off a concert like that nowadays how many people went to woodstock 99 what was

a total do you guys know 250 000 and so like by and large the original woodstock Sounds like a pretty cool concert. There weren't that many people that died, right? I think a couple people died from, like, some bad drugs. I think it was like insulin or something like that. And one died from a tractor? Yeah, one guy got run over by like a truck or something. That's wild.

In the original one? Yeah, the original woodstock, yeah. I feel like if we tried to do a woodstock right now for bands, it would just, it would devolve not necessarily. into violence like we saw in 99, but just like a bunch of brands, just like trying to like market themselves as thought leaders. Like they just take over the stage and start to host roundtables on like the freedom or the future of the cloud. It would just become, I don't think that we can just have a good weekend of nothing but music going on at a massive festival anymore.

And you just described South by Southwest. Yes. Yes. Yes, you're right. Great point, Coley. Yes, it would become South by Southwest, which used to be just a great. week of music at every bar in Austin would have live music and be bands that you've never heard of before just like bands that sometimes didn't have you know more than 20 people or 30 people that had purchased their CD or their album and it was just like live music everywhere and then over the court it was actually like while I lived down there I saw it become it started to change from something that was kind of cool that we all look forward to into just like a massive brand orgy there's like a bunch of people who who called themselves like thought leaders and wanted to talk about like being futurists, but really just promote their

own companies that just totally took over the town. Now it sucks. Now it's like the last cool thing that came out of South by Southwest was probably actually Imagine Dragons. I saw imagine that's actually a pretty good story. I saw Imagine Dragons at Rachel Ray's show. They opened up for him. And I was one of about 10 people in the crowd right in front of that big fucking bass drum that they have. And nobody else really dug him. And I was like, I can see this band becoming the official band of college football on the ESPN in a matter of years.

They played radioactive. And it's actually very sad to see Imagine Dragons totally rocking out to radioactive and nobody in the crowd even listening. I was one of maybe 10 people, everybody. And of us 10 people, no one was even, we weren't even like moving our head to it. It was very sad to watch.

One of those 10 was. One of those 10 was some record producer, though. And he was like, man, this sucks. I can't wait to put it on every radio station in the country. That's son of a bitch. At some point, we should go back and do like a little bit of research on how music has been marketing or marketed over the years. And like how different bands became famous and the type of shit that you had to do to get your stuff on the radio back in the day. because it was like, before the internet,

it was really controlled by just a handful of people. So I have a hope that one day, like, I'll probably be dead, but the is what drives the genre. And it can't be that right now because it's the quantity. It's literally how the algorithms of Spotify and Apple and all that is shit. It's how the algorithms work. It's like the more content you put out, the more trash. we can get, the more looks you'll get, right?

And that's forcing people to spend less time with their art and spend more time into marketing and stuff like that. Like, Takashi 6-9. Yeah. Like, that's, that is the blueprint to get successful

to these young artists. It's like, I got to troll people. I mean, Jake Paul, for example, it's the same shit. It's like the way we market is actually diluting the actual art form. And I sound like whole bit of niggas saying that shit, but it's not true. Like, so this is how I know I'm biased. My favorite genre of, I mean, era, these are 70s, right?

I feel like that was the golden era of music. I love that. Even more than the 90s, when I grew up in the 90s and 2000s. Like, I think those are the greatest music that's ever made. And I think it's because the money that got put into music, it became all about the marketing and all in brand partnership and all that shit and less about actually connecting on a level that really meant. something to you. And because of that, like I said, and now it's even worse because we have this

instant gratification society that we live in. And this is why the music is so bad nowadays. I mean, you'll find some good pockets of music, but it's just not, it's just not good. It's not good music. Like, we're going to look back at it in 20 years and be like, this shit was horrible. Like, it was really bad. I don't completely disagree with most of the music that comes out and a lot of the pop music, the biggest artists of the generation, like, still almost are defiant of, like, Kendrick doesn't play to that shit. That's what I'm saying. He comes out once every three years, four years, and look at the quality music that he

gives. That's what I'm saying, because he takes his time with it. Right. The other guys just, like, they put out singles every other week. Right. And, but, like, I guess what I'm saying is, like, the leaders of it are not really, to the people who are like, oh, I get a buzz right. right now I need to stay here no matter what.

Yeah, they're putting out garbage consistently. But I do think like, I mean, Beyonce is not waiting for shit. Like John Mayer just put out a great album that like he took his fucking time on. Like I do think that even in this era, if you just completely ignore the algorithm almost and just focus on it, like the people, the people know what's bullshit and what's not at the end of the day. What about Donda? Where do we stand on Donda? Takashi 6-9. I listen.

I haven't listened to yet. I love Kanye so much that I will always listen to what he drops. I just think he's in a space in his life where I don't agree with the shit that he's doing or saying. And that's okay. But I will always check for him because of what he did for me when I, the music helped me get through a lot. I listened to the first two tracks. And I was like, I need to sit there. Because I'm in L.A. right now.

So I was like, I need to go home with us into this, like, where I'm in a better, better place. Because I just couldn't give it the love that I feel like a Kanye have on these. But I heard Jay-Z say, I heard Jay-Z say, made in God's image. That's his selfie. I turned it off and I was like, I'm not looking at now. That is a horrible line. That's your guy. That's it.

It is my guy. Jay-Z, I think is Jay-G's the greatest rapper of all time. He's not my favorite, but I think he's the greatest. But that was one of the, that was the cheap line. That was very cheap line. And it was, that's disappointing. And so, like, I just need to gather my thoughts, regather and just go somewhere else and listen to it.

That's why I told you last week, if him and Benny dropped albums on the same day, I'm listening to Benny made in God's image. I'm a, of a selfie from a 50-year-old art collecting billionaire. It's tough, man. Oh, man. You may lie. It's, uh, it's, I've listened to it twice now through. I think it's not bad.

Kind of like what Aryan's saying, I, like, Kanye is proven over the course of, you know, the last, what, 17 years, 18. How, when did a college dropout came out? Is that like 2004? Yeah, so it's, he's been around for a while and he's proven that he can make some of the best music on the planet. So I know it's still in there somewhere. And so I'm going to listen to everything that he puts out just in case that comes back again. And there are a few tracks. I think he probably could have made the.

album about 15% as long as it actually ended up being and just whittle it down, but he's in his own headspace and he's got a vision for it. I look at it. It's like a soundtrack. I think Kanye wrote a soundtrack for a movie that hasn't been written yet. That's what Donda is. It, like, I haven't talked, spoke about it because I didn't want my mentions to be bombarded on Twitter by his stands. I think the productions, like, about as clean as his productions ever come off for an entire album. And I think the features outside of Jay-Z all stepped in knocked it out. Every time he opened his mouth on the album, I wanted to change the song.

Like, I don't know if his ghost writers are on strike. I don't know what's happening. But I feel like he's never been the most lyrical guy that there ever was. But he always, like, would show up. He wasn't negative. I think he was a net negative when he opened his mouth on this entire album. I was going to say the only, like, really parts of the. the album. I really enjoyed. None of them were Kanye.

Right. And floated. Absolutely floated. He's been into this weird thing recently on the last, like, few albums that he's done. Christianity? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. He's got really into this dead guy. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Come on now. That's.

He's kind of simping for this dude that died 2,000 years ago. He was definitely dead, Big D. Definitely was dead. For three days, well, two days, the third day. Allegedly. Yes. Continue. All right.

Thank you. The weird thing that he's been into as far as his production goes, there's always like two songs on each album that I'll listen to be like, why did he just not have any drums on this song at all? Like the beat is just, you know, the organ, the bass, maybe a couple synthesizers, whatever, but there's just no percussion whatsoever. And I'm like, this song would be so good if there was like a Jesus Walks type drum track that was added to it. I think that's the line, you know, like die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Like, when you're that artistically brilliant, I think you get bored making brilliant shit. And so you experiment. And a lot of that experimentation isn't, it doesn't necessarily hit all the time.

It doesn't resonate with folks like the shit that you know will feel. Yeah. I feel like a good example is that. I think when he started this, Kanye dissension, was, Um, what was the, oh, Jesus? Yes, it was Jesus. Jesus was when he started like experimenting with his art as far as like, not pushing his artistic, but just like, yo, I need to go somewhere else with this shit.

And that's, that's when it was like, I don't know, I mean, I feel like he has a lot of mental issue, um, mental issue. I was just not like I think. Uh, and I think it's just, it's him trying to figure this whole life shit out and none of us do and this is his way of doing it. And I'm a fan of him. I'm always going to be a fan of him. him. I don't agree with what he said. I don't agree with what he does.

But I'm always going to check for my guy, man. So what I read about when you're talking about, like, him not putting drums on certain tracks, what I read was it was either during Yeezus or right after he sat down and told him to like start stripping stuff down. Because he, especially there are a couple tracks. I like Eezus a lot. I think that's his last like great album. But there are parts where he's just like, what if we put a dog barking in this track? What if What if I just spilled a bowl of chili in the middle of this way? And it's like, Rick Rubin was like,

how about we knock that the fuck off and make it a little bit more simplistic? And that's how we take it from here. And so from what I've read, that's kind of what he's been sitting with, like not overproducing it and almost doing a little bit more minimalist. Okay. All right. Yeah.

I mean, I think it's better than the last album that I put out. I'll say that about Donda. Although that song, Kenny G. was a banger. What was his last one? The last one was it. wasn't it? It was technically Jesus's King and then he did

Yeah, that's right, Jesus's King. Hey, there was two or three tracks on Jesus's King that I still bumped to this day, though. Like, everything if he could put everything we need could have been like on on college dropout or something like that. It easily could have fit in any one of his top tier

catalog albums easily. Matter of fact, you could, you can give me everything you need and swap that shit with drunken hot girls on graduation. Because that is one of the worst songs ever by Kanye and it had almost deaf on it another super talented human being

and it's just dog it's all drunken hot girls did not belong on an album I think drunken hot girls is probably the most contentious debate amongst Kanye fans I haven't met anybody

in real life that likes it well I'm right here pal you like drunken hot girls a friend who doesn't all right one's got to go drunken hot girls or workout plan a workout plan's out of here

drunk hot girls are fucking out of here man and I don't even like I don't like I don't like workout plan even yeah I drunken hot girls like it's just not a good song Coley I don't know what you're seeing it graduation came out 9-11 I never forget

my third day of freshman year of college at UMass so I don't have a problem with a single song on that album not a one It's about where you were at that time in life. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, you talk about freshman year, you, Mass, filled with drunken hot girls.

So, yeah, I have no qualms with that little ditty. All right. That's a fair argument. Sometimes art, you feel a certain way connected to it because of where you were in your life. And I think that's why people feel a certain type of way about Woodstock, the original Woodstock, because it, like, brings them back to that era where they thought that they were going to change the world. they were going to you know their parents didn't own them they didn't control the way that the world was going to go they were going to get fucked up they were going to expand their minds and they were going to have consequence free sex and for a while they kind of did and at woodstock

i think that people look back at woodstock and they think they remember having no responsibility they remember being able to experiment with drugs and listening to some great music and they make it into a massive, like a, more than just a cultural event, like a touchstone. Like you can't, you can't tell the story of 1969 or really the 60s without mentioning this one concert that happened. I feel like sometimes that gets a little bit overblown because it was so close to New York City and because the only place that they sold tickets for it was in Manhattan. It's the only way, that's the only place that you could buy tickets to go to Woodstock.

So it's very much like a cultural, like a coastal elitist. type of concert i'm sure there were other bangers that went on over the course of the 60s but the only one we remember is woodstock because of the film that got made from it which is great and because it was like a new york city adjacent thing what do you think big t i don't i don't think that's inaccurate okay i don't know uh i will say it does seem like something that is since i've moved to the northeast there are certain things that people who have have grown up here think are much bigger deals everywhere than they are. And I do feel like this would maybe fall into that category of something that people

from the Northeast talk about a lot that like in the South, like, yeah, I knew what Woodstock was, but like there weren't people all the time talking about like, man, Woodstock. And granted, obviously it was 50 years later. But yeah, I do think there's some of that to it for sure. Now, I mean, I could make the argument that Woodstock is the reason Bonneroo exists. like what is probably true yeah what is like the i don't know if it completely applies to you but growing up was that a thing people like wanted to go to around you um yeah like you know bonneroo is not far from nashville so that's like the big thing in tennessee and atlanta there's what's

the one in piedmont park uh music midtown music midtown yeah so like all the shit like that um but yeah bonneroo is like i guess the closest thing we'd have right now probably maybe burning man i guess but was woodstock the first music festival like the de facto first or just the first definitely not the first one what's the uh what's the big jazz festival pft

there's the newport jazz festival there's newport there's newport there's monteree yeah there's that older there yeah there've been music festivals before but this was like the first one that was I think of its size 400,000 people ended up going let's see first music festival jami can you pull that up for me it's like uh the first non music festival was a pithium game was the pithium games a precursor of the olympics which was held

from the late sixth century bc at a sanctuary of apollo delphi so also the music festival merged into england in the 18th century as an extension of urban concert life into a form of seasonal cultural festivity structured around a schedule of music performances or concerts. So England invented the music festival. I think that that's bullshit too. Yeah, that's a hundred percent. Yeah. It's like, okay, England.

Of course, fucking England. You know what I mean? He's invented everything. Yeah. Give me a fucking break, England. I think you and Thomas Jefferson claim everything ever invented and it's all bullshit. Like, you think that there were no like music festivals or concerts in China for the, like, 20,000 years that they dominated the world?

So what the first Woodstock was really the world's first fire fest. After Woodstock happened, everyone was like millions of dollars in debt who planned it, lawsuits, company around it. So that's kind of very fitting to see how the music festival business has sort of just kept making the same mistakes. Good point, Billy, but nobody had Twitter then. So no one could like, no one could like, no one could. post the pictures of the of the brown acid that was going around and complain about it what do you think

do you think that woodstock 99 is considered so much worse than woodstock 69 just because we didn't know what was going on there yeah I think that there's there's definitely an element of that like woodstock 99 was bad it ended up in a very bad place just because it was bad and it's honestly probably the best thing that's ever happened to woodstock 69 because now people are like woodstock was pure there was nothing bad that happened I I feel Like there might be a little... There was two people that died. There was two...

That sucks, you know, for that family and whatever. But, like, one of the worst things that happened at Woodstock was... There was, I think, one porta potty per every, like, 150 people or something like that. And so, like... And then even the porta-potties that were being used, they started overflowing. And then it was raining. And then all of that secretion... Hill that was on.

So everybody was stepping on there. But, like, that's... fucking crazy. And they thought it was mud. Yeah. They were diving through it and shit like that. I think that's just how boring it was without GPS. Let's go swim in the shit.

Yeah. I think weren't they thinking back to like the original Woodstock? There were the mud people at the original Woodstock too. Right. And so they're like, look, we're just like our parents were. It's like, no, you're just, you're actually bathing in shit. I don't I don't think I would ever want to go to a festival like that like a full weekend see have you never done it

I'm which I've never been to a festival and I will never be at a festival and the reason why is because one of the greatest quotes of all time and it came from men in black I think I've said this before why maybe I have yep it's a person is smart people are dumb dangerous panicky animals and you know it dog when you get around a whole bunch of people, dumb shit happens. Like, it's just that my mentality. And plus, I don't I don't really like people like that. I think they're dumb

anyway. When they get together, they get even more stupid. It's just, you can add drugs and music that I can barely hear. I'm straight, though. You can very much hear it. And you specifically could be in VIP, post it up. I'm straight, though. I could do the same thing

at the crib with a bottle of wine. Bang. I did I did Coachella twice. I did Made in America down in Philly and I did Governor's Ball in New York a couple

times. I had nothing but pleasant experiences. And like it is I checked Coachella. Coachella when I went was 125K. And it feels like more than that. Like it's a lot of fucking people. And you're right. Like if something bad were to happen,

I don't know what would occur because it's just such a wave of human beings. And yet that panic sets in something could happen. But nothing did happen. So it ended up being worth it. The only downside to Coachella is you're in the middle of the fucking desert breathing in dirt all day. Because the graph rates the second 25,000 people go through the gates. So you just find yourself like sneezing out black for a week.

Jesus. That was the problem with Woodstock 99 they had on an Air Force base, a retired Air Force base. and the runways and everything and that was one of the reasons why it got so crazy like there was only tarmac and there wasn't that much grass so basically the heat there was so magnified by just having blacktop

and people's shoes were melting and you know everyone had to get places on foot so at the end of the day you just had a bunch of very very hot pissed off people who had to pay for $4 waters you know when we did the hell episode we described our personal hell pretty much any music festival

but particularly either Woodstock sounds like my personal hell just a mass of humanity all on drugs your people bathing in human shit their deal is yeah it's truly just I would I that's hell that's hell which line up appeals more to you Big T so I guess probably 99 just because that's like I mean I was alive

so like I'm vaguely familiar with that music Big DMX guy But neither of them particularly Yeah I feel like that was a very pivotal point in music Because music used to be a lot more like Hype violent type music Like DMX is like

That's hype up music Whereas like rap today is like Mumble Rap isn't really like You know like stop like drop like So with that I feel was that sort of gathering sort of a pivotal moment? No, that's a bad take.

You think it's a bad take? I mean, mainstream, mainstream. I mean, hip-hop's a number of genre in the world. DMX was like anti-pop culture, right? Like, think about, bro, he came out like when hip-hop's main shit was like, diddy, right? And he was doing the shiny suit shit and it was bling-blank, like that was that shit. DMX's first single was like, get at me, though. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, DMX was counter to that. So, like, nowadays, it's the same. it's the same shit getting the crowd hype i like i like that take dmx was the nirvana compared to like ditties uh like hair metal poison yeah like it's the pendulum swings back and forth to like some that's overproduced and shiny some that's more raw but it was a very angry concert for sure if you look at the lineup there was a lot of a lot of anger going on that's it was cool to be mad in the late 90s oh yeah because i i actually think that the reason why music became so aggressive in the late 90s is because we really didn't

have that much to complain about like in terms of like our country has become involved in so many more like international conflicts the world's gotten so much more complicated that for a lot of people especially like young white kids like me back in the 90s there wasn't really that much to complain about. I lived in the suburbs, kind of. And I was like, yeah, all right, limpiscuits talking about like breaking stuff. Why? For no reason, because they just woke up feeling angry. Like, that's, that's what we were angry about was we just were mad because we woke up feeling like that for no reason. And that was like a big thing in the late 90s. And I feel like in the 2000s, music changed a lot. It became less mad. And just it went off in a bunch

of different directions. But at the time, it was cool to be pissed off. Yeah. 90s was like a hangover for the 80s. It makes sense, actually, a lot. And plus, like, rap kind of developed from the inner cities, like, and the crack epidemic. And so, like, that was a lingering hangover.

So the 90s era was that. It was, like, you were dealing with, like, a lot of police brutality and, like, drug war issues. And that's what bubbled out of it. And I think what came out of that was exactly what you were talking about earlier, like, marketing and companies getting their hands into hip hop and it became a lot more about how much money you got, which is where we're at today. Yeah.

So, all right, if you look at like the hangover being the 90s, where are we at right now? If like the last 100 years of music have been somebody's life and they were hungover in the 90s, they're kind of like soberish, maybe trying to like recover a little bit in the 2000s, Are we into the, are we into the, the microdosing phase right now, like with the music that's coming out right now? I think, I think hip hop in general, because hip hop is the number one genre in the world right now. So that's, that's wild to think about it, right? That's, I mean, the interest in the aspect of that is like, so like when the 90s, right, there was like a very distinct, like, cultural separation. Like, there was like white music.

You know what I'm saying? There was like Blink 182 and fucking Green Day and shit like that. And granted, there's still people that make that subset of genre, but it wasn't like as distinct as nowadays. And now you're getting, because of the internet, you're getting like a cultural blend of musics. And so you got like Jack Harlow, shit like that, right? Where it's like the pop music is hip hop,

but it's not from, like, where it came from. The interesting dynamic. And I think like that's where I'm like confused as to where music is going to go because there's just so much, there's just a blend. Like, like, I'm very confused as to what's going on right now. Like, I'm looking outside, like, this is, this world is not for me anymore, bro. This is weird. But, like, to your question, I think we're just like, we have a stepson.

Like, if the anthropomorphize him, we made it out of the neighborhood that we came from, and then we have a stepson that wants to be in that neighborhood, and he's, he's acting out. That's what, that's what I would say, like, heavily. introspective all the biggest artists i can think of regardless of john are extremely introspective looking inward instead of projecting outward even billy ilish who's probably like the biggest i think the biggest streaming artists from last year were billy ilish and um bad bunny and like just completely inward looking individuals yeah people uh i people don't really give Billy Elish enough credit, I don't think, because they say, yeah, she's great.

Now, there is, like, controversy. Does she write her songs? Does she do most of the production? Is that her brother that does most of it? But she's people that, like, instinctively with a knee-jerk reaction, hate on young artists that come out, whether it's like a Disney group, like the Jonas Brothers or whatever, anyone who's young that's coming out, that's, I realize that the people that start to tour that start to create music when they're like 12, 13, 14, 15.

Yeah, sometimes it's going to be like a little bubble gummy. It's going to be kind of cheesy. But those are the people that throughout years in the industry, they're going to end up becoming some of the most creative artists in the future. So you shouldn't be surprised when an artist like, I don't know, like for example, Justin Timberlake starts to branch out a little bit and becomes a decent musician and very creative later on his career. A lot of people hold on to that whole teeny bopper thing for too long when it comes to

new emerging artists. But Billy Eilish is good. I can pop. I can listen to Billy Elish. It's not like, to Billy's point, it's not like stop, drop. I'm not going to like lift weights to Billy Elish. Well, I think what I was trying to say is that maybe since that music was so counterculture and so unique that it was more longer lasting, because I don't think I know any other music from that era.

Besides DMX? DMX. I mean, Limp Bizkit, like, all those, like, aggressive songs. You know Sublime? I do know Sublime. okay but that was more like i don't remember any pop music from that air this is a fun game like let's see if we can get billy to admit that he's familiar with the backstreet boys right but i don't know any of their songs i know they exist i know justin tibus boys 90s 2000s for the late 90s early 2000s

i want it that way we cut him off before did you hear what it was about to say what keep going with what you're just isn't just in tiberlake in the back street boys oh there it is Oh boy Insync What if you're not familiar with either That's not a crazy thing to think Yeah I mean I'm 22 years old

I was I was born in 1990 You know you fuck that I'm so sick of young people Use an excuse bro Shut that shit up I was born in 1986 Doug I know

70 60 music better But I know I know Led Zeppelin Leonard Skinner The Beatles more than I know in sync I'll take that. I'll take that. Yeah, because I don't, yeah, I think that.

Like, I was, I was born in 89. I don't know who the biggest artist of 89 was. Guns and roses. Guns and roses. Michael Jackson was, bro. Right. That's what I mean. It was probably him. So that's a bag.

But like that second tier, like if he's the S tier. Innocent, by the way. Who was like right below them? Michael Jack. Prince was in the 80s. For sure. Yeah. But I'm saying like, Backstreet boys, although Backstreet Boys is in sync, I think,

combined had one number one overall hit which is crazy on billboard um they're not that but like well i agree but they were everywhere you know what like they were force fed down everyone's fucking throat but like if i were to say like it would probably be like the tail end of like the 80s hair metal band yeah yeah that's poison deaf leopard motley crew i think pop music is popular at the time but because it's just catchy tunes it never like goes for it's not doesn't stand the test of time it doesn't last that's like that's why that's why the 60s and 70s were so fire bro like the quality of music is so good like some of the lead zeppelin stuff is just the like full symphonies that's just still like you put on cash me today like everyone's like whoa like what is this you remember when puff daddy did the remix of that for the godzilla movie yeah that that gets me hype you talk about sound drag yeah incredible or let's go little uh little john on the um iron man crazy train crazy train crazy train yeah that's what you that was your walkout song wasn't it at rough and rowdy no that was

the song they turned on during the fight oh during the fight it was it was nuts you knocked hose can say to that song jose can saco fell down to that song well you know he just quit he quit billy what was your walkout song at rough and roddy uh god's gonna cut you down by johnny cash oh that's a good choice yeah yeah it's very honest i was hoping that he'd be like oh shit like karma might get me yeah so i couldn't real quick bill you just got back from rough and rowdy in west virginia it was awesome so you were you were in chef donnie's corner i was hanging out with chef donnie yesterday actually and he was saying what a good person you were to have like the best hype man of all time just like you're you were just amped up to be around the fight game

again it was i mean there's nothing like the like a fight weekend between the day before running up to the fight the night before the fight and then the day of the fight like it's just an emotional rollercoast how many beers did you drink after the fight was over be honest i mean wait let me let's a good amount let me guess a responsible amount i think that you responsibly drank 19 beers i responsibly got to my early morning flight the next morning that's all the counts which was yeah 7 a.m. wake up so yeah yeah That's all that matters. Let me see some other 90s bands that you should know that you might.

Smashing Pumpkins. Do you know them? The world is a vampire? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You're familiar. Alanus Morset.

No idea. I know, I know, Honest Morset. I meant, for the record, I meant terrible that Billy doesn't know. I love Alanus. Yeah. Jaggy Little Pill is an all-time great. There's a song on Jagged Little Pill that's about Alanis Morset sucking Dave Coleyeyer from Full House's Dick and movie theater.

how cool is that that's the most 90s thing ever the whole album was about him yeah i think the entire album was about dave cool yeah definitely which is he's he's uncle joey right oh yeah cut it out love that uncle joey yeah uncle joey yeah i've heard that name and ye that sloppy part from alannis inspired one of the five best albums from the 90s yeah wow fucking he used to do a little beaver impersonation i used to love when i was a kid what about world yeah we should probably talk about the elephant in the room about

woodstock 99 that just like terrible things happened at it woodstock 99 yeah yeah if you haven't seen the documentary you should you should go watch it it's uh it's on HBO max I don't know why I'm doing a plug for HBO right now but I watched it the other weekend and it's it's a good documentary I feel like it's well done my big takeaway from Woodstock 99 documentary holy shit the offspring got fat crazy dexter from the offspring like he's always been a skinny dude he's right now his BMI is probably like 40 it's unbelievable it took my breath away when him and noodles were on my TV and my breath it did man like they got fat and I like Dexter I think he's a pretty cool dude he's got a good dude he's

got like a doctorate in marine biology or or no biochemistry something like that really smart guy i think he's a pilot too but um man quarantine has not been kind you got you got to keep him separated from all the snacks that's what i'm saying you guys dig what i'm saying i just get that was right off the top i mean it's his self-esteem must not be too good right now you know he looks Come on, mirror. Ixnay on the Hungre. Okay, I'm done with the offspring puns, but he is, he's a big fucking dude. So that's, I just wanted to get that.

I'm not done with the offspring puns. He's a big fucking dude. I don't want to get too mean with it. I just, I hope that he's healthy. And he did not, he did not appear to be healthy. Hang on. This guy's not that fat. Let me see.

Let me see the picture that you see. This is from four months ago. Okay, that's not from the documentary. This is a good angle. If you pull up and he knows what he's doing, he's faced off to the side right here because he probably saw the documentary, try to pull up a screenshot

when it's him and noodles and they're interviewing them. And they were basically saying, yeah, I kind of knew that it was going to be fucked from the time that we got on stage and we saw some people that were like molesting crowd surfers going over ahead. So, yeah.

Just trust me on this. He's a big boy. But, yeah, Woodstock 99 had some bad shit that went down. Billy, do you have any facts about Woodstock 99? Three people died. A lot of assaults. Over 44 arrests. I think 1,400 people were hospitalized.

Water was $4 and burritos were $10, which is insane for 99 prices of inflation. There were several sexual assaults. involving lots of people in the crowd which is not good and yeah how much it was literal

pandemonium so how much responsibility you think falls on the concert promoters and the event organizers for like a sexual assault taking place in the crowd and how much of the responsibility is just like recognizing that there are a lot of shitheads in the world and any time

you have a large gathering of people in one place like what could have been done to prevent that. I guess that's what I'm asking. I don't have the answer. Yeah. No, I'm just saying like, shit, how much, because people like to point fingers that like the organizers and be like, you organize this,

this event and then all this bad stuff. I just don't know how much is actually their fault. Well, honestly, it's on it. I mean, it's on people in the crowd who let it, like, like, I don't think, I mean, is there any blame you can place for something like that? Like, I, like, the shorter. of water, I think you can place on the promoters, like the food, shit like that, whatever.

Any infrastructure or anything like that, yeah, you could technically place on a promoter. But like something like that, like, that's, I just shitty humans. But also not only shitty humans, but also shitty people in the crowd watching it happen. I mean, I've been to concerts and crowds. And if something like that was happening around me,

I would be like, yo, someone calls. call the security or police. Thank you for your service, really. Like, or maybe even like, you would handle it yourself. Yo, someone called the security. It's just, you know, yeah. I think everybody likes to think that in a situation like that, they would be the person that put a stop to it.

Turns out that a lot of people aren't. Yeah. So, yeah, the water sucks. There's $4.4 doesn't strike me as that much. That's now, though. Like, 99 bottle water was way cheaper. Yeah, $4 for water is like $9 now. And they said for that 99, like when there was a shortage that started happening, like the bottle waters that got up to like $10 too.

Like, so that was like, wow. Price packaging. People started boarding them. Yeah. I mean, I don't know why anybody would go to an event where it's like, okay, we're going to be, there's going to be a concert and it's going to all take place on cement. And then you can put up your own tent over here in the corner. And then you have to stay there for three days. There's absolutely nothing about that that appeals to me at all.

Yeah, I was watching a part of the Woodstock 99 documentary and people were laying under semi-trucks to get some sort of relief from heat because if like you were just on the cement, it was like hell on earth. And people were like laying down under like I can't imagine like you willingly staying staying like why wouldn't you just if you're that miserable leave i don't get why why we're so and then you're bathing in human shit why are you willingly staying i don't care how much you pay for a ticket if you're that is i think there's no upside people are built different back then i can provide some sort of insight on that while i would never do that for a concert i do distinctly remember

sitting at the 2016 tennessee florida game it was 103 degrees we're down 203 degrees we're down 24 to 3 at half time, and I had never left a game early, and I was like, I'm about to walk out. But I said, if we come back and win this game, I will never forgive myself. We scored 38 straight points. We won 38 to 28. And I wouldn't have ever, I don't know what I would have done if I left. So like those people were like, if I miss X, Y, or Z, like, they just wouldn't be able to live. So it was all about FOMO, really. Yeah.

Also, talking of, you know, we were talking about how GPS has. progressed and how getting places just be so much harder you couldn't just leave early there's no ubers like you had to make sure you were with your crew that you went with and there was a lot of organizational stuff like you committed to camp there and who that's just so it was such a different world yeah i saw this one stat that we are the same this crazy math here we're the same distance from 1980 in 2021 as 1980 was from Yeah, could I say something on that time? Yeah, like that's, yes, correct. That is how 41 years works. I'm so sick of people on Twitter being like, this just blew my mind. No, that's how it works. Well, no, because think about it like for like, like.

You relate to that a little bit too. Come on. You thought the 1980s are still kind of like in your brain 20 years ago. Yeah. No. It's like shouldn't be. 80s. The 80s don't seem that far. It's just the realization of people aging. And that is relatable. That's a relatable thing. I can't stand it. I'm going to get. Why, though? Okay. Think about it like this, Biggie, think about it. It's people coming to grips with their own mortality. Can you relate to that? Sure. That's all it is. They're doing it with a meme. That's it. All right. How about this, Big T? Right now, we're as close to me. 1900 as

1900 is to the revolutionary war that's fucked up isn't it you know that's how it works yeah that's how time no no you were about don't act like you're above time you were about to appreciate how my feeling that was 1900 was a very long time ago

the American Revolution I'm talking tric corner hats I'm talking wooden teeth I'm talking that tyrant King George when he kicked his ass all the way back to the aisle of of white or whatever. So like this is, that's mind-blowing stuff.

You have to admit. The last Civil War widow died in. Oh, she died like recently. Yeah. The Civil War was a hundred years after that. Yes. No,

but think about so. She died in 2020. The last Civil War widow. But it's kind of a messed up situation. Yeah. She was like 19. Yeah. She was 19 and she married in 83 or yeah.

Like something crazy like that. That's okay. I don't think that's messed up at all. If you're in your 90s, you know what you're, oh, I'm going to marry a 19 year old girl. But it's like that's for her. Yes. And it was in like 19, I don't even know. 36.

Yeah, 38. Oh, she got married to the guy. Yeah. Okay. And like, like she was 19 and he was like 90. She or he died shortly after and then she just died, but she was the last Civil War widow to be around. They got married the same. distance away from

1978 as we are from 1978. That math was terrible. That's crazy. That's wild stuff. I was just, yeah.

So I was just fact-shaking it because this is a fact I was, I was, just kind of, you hear about it? This is a wild fact that Cleopatra

was born closer or lived closer to the first construction of a Taco Bell than she was to the construction. of the Great Pyramids. That's wild.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, good for her. She was so close. She never got to have it. No, there's no cheesy working to get crunched inside of sarcophagus. All right. So, all right, here's one. Thanks for getting us on this.

You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. All right, let's see. So right now, we're as close to George Washington being born. as George Washington being born was to Christopher Columbus. That's not that impressive because they're both the old things. Whoa.

No, I mean, but that's... Here's a cool. Woolly mammoths were still roaming when the pyramids were being constructed. Yeah, I know. That's crazy thing. There was woolly mammoths on a peninsula in Siberia up until like I think it was, I want to say 400 or 500 years ago. I might be totally wrong.

Is anyone going to talk about how Billy just said Peninsula? Yeah, and that means to my next point, which was, what's weird is I say Pirates of the Caribbean, but when I talk about the actual place, I think I'm going to go to the Caribbean island. Are you a caramel or caramel guy? I'm definitely caramel. Oh, there's an animal word, though. Yeah, but I don't care. All right, that's a great explanation for it, honestly.

I'm the same way with the Caribbean and Caribbean, though. That's weird. I was totally wrong on that. They died out 4,000 years ago, which is still pretty recent history. Yeah. But not like when the colonies were around. No. No.

4,000 years ago they died, which was during the pyramids. That's a good fact check, Billy, though. You fact checked yourself in real time, and I appreciate that. I have a woolly mammoth tooth and a tusk. You have a tusk? Yeah. No, you don't have a tusk. Yeah, I do.

You don't have a full ass. You got a woolly mammoth tusk. No, it's a baby tusk. It's like a little tusk. That could be captain. It's at my parents' house. They got it in China back in like my grandfather got in like 1920 in northern China. They passed down.

It's a molar. No, it's a mole. No, they scammed the shit out of your grandfather. It's a fucking molar. It's probably an elephant molar. No, it's not elephant molar. Your grandfather stole Chinese art? Oh, yeah, big time.

We've got tons of illegal Chinese art in my house. We have an entire mural that's a rubbing. of one of the most famous carvings of all time to the point where the Chinese government wanted to get it back so they could display it in their own art museums and not have so American have it. It's called the Queen's procession. It's the accompanying piece that goes along with the King's procession. We're not allowed to have it, so nobody sent this one over to China. Is that like the twin discs in National Treasure? Yes, yes. It's very similar to that. Yes, good point. We also have an opium pipe.

which is pretty sweet an opium lantern from like the I don't know like 1100s 1200s love that smoked weed out of it one time felt like I was a wizard with this really long

it was pretty cool honestly there was no residual opium left in there might have been I don't know China's probably going to be pretty pissed when they find out the guy that has that and then they go look up some of your comments on President Xi

yeah we'll deal with it probably not going to be stuck in China you know Poo bear is banned in China because revolutionaries online were using it to meme Xi Jinping. Yeah. Yeah, we will do a China episode

with Donnie, by the way. Just want to say for the record, I love Chinese people. I love the Chinese. I don't like the government. Absolutely love Chinese people. I think that's the same thing Donnie said too. Chinese people are getting a real bad rap these days

because it's almost become a meme of if you're a Chinese person or you talk about people in China, then they just associate that with like, the emperor and the concentration camps for the Uighurs. And it's not it. Chinese people are cool. Love Chinese people.

All right. Woodstock. So 99. Dim sum. I had dim sum for the first time like a month ago. Fucking amazing. It's great. Yeah.

Love Chinese food. Absolutely. My favorite food in the entire world, maybe. No, no. Ramen. Japanese ramen. That's good. Japanese ramen's good.

Sometimes it's a little too rich for me. that's that's keep those kind of things to yourself though I like a peaking duck I think it might be my favorite meal in the world it's like a duck it's what is that duck taco that's the easiest way I can describe it they hang the ducks up and they air dry them for a while

so the skin gets real crispy when they roast it and then they carve it up it's the tastiest skin that you'll ever have it's really fat juicy delicious meat and then they give you these flour pancakes are tortillas and you put scallion in there you put sometimes sliced cucumber hoisten sauce and the duck and it's like these little mini tacos that eat until you eat the entire duck that's what i think it's my favorite meal the world i love that meal but there's one chinese restaurant that used to give you fat ass pancakes and you can make burritos with it and it was just and you put rice in there

yeah it was just insane peaking duck burrito yeah and with the house and sauce Yeah, Hoysen? Hoisen. Where is that? I think it's called... Tell me now. I think it's called the something pig, like the fat, lucky pig. I need to go there.

It is amazing. I need to go there immediately. And the thing is they do it, you make it yourself, and then you end up eating like three. Hell of yes. All right. Well, that's where I'm going. Next cheat day. That's where I'm going.

Big time. Billy, give me some more facts about Woodstock 99. So New York Times solicited festival performers rage against the machine for their opinion on the festival's controversy. Tom Morello, the band's guitarist, wrote on August 5th, 1999 in Neil Strauss's Times column, Hey man, leave the kids alone. I've had enough of the frenzy demonization of young people surrounding Woodstock 99. Yes, Woodstock was filled with predators, the degenerate idiots who assaulted those women the greedy promoters who rung every cent out of the thirsty concert goers.

And last but not least, the predator media that turned a blind eye to real violence and scapegoated the quarter of a million music fans at Woodstock 99, the mass majority of whom had a time of their lives. This thing was a huge shit show. Yeah, but I mean, Tom Arello has a good point. Yeah. It's like, yeah, there were a lot of shitheads there. I mean, by the way.

But there were a lot of people that went there and enjoyed music. This is nothing new for music festivals. when the hell's angels were the security at the Altamont Free concert with the Rolling Stones, there was also a ton of violence and crazy stuff. Who would have ever thought that the Hells Angels would... They hired them for security. Been goons, yeah.

Honestly, kind of respect that move, though. All right, what's the best way to ensure the Hells Angels won't try to ruin your music festival? Well, we'll just hire them to be the security and have them stab everybody that tries to ruin the music festival. Check me. Yeah, exactly. Like, if you can't beat them, get them on your side.

Kind of a good move. But what was the security situation like at Woodstock 99? Because I remember the documentary, there are a lot of people saying that, like, a very large percentage of people that signed up to be working security, just got in the door and then just kind of took their shirts off. And they still had the passes. And they're like, free ticket to Woodstock 99. All right. They had 500 New York State police troopers who were there for security, but the bulk of the security just joined the concert. Yeah.

They should have done a much better job screening those people out. It's like promise that you're not just going to like treat this as a free ticket. Yeah, there was tons of violence. They say that a lot of the violence in the mosh pits that they don't even count because it was consensual violence. Yeah. Like, guys in the hospital numbers show, like, how much guys were really getting beat up. So is New York a mutual combat state? Like, can you, can you arrest somebody for getting, like, too live in the mosh pit?

And Washington, we know. Yeah. State of Washington, mosh away. Yeah. Washington. Mosh pits. Like, y'all have to explain that to me. I didn't, I thought it was like a whole bunch of people jumping around a shit.

but like that's not the case it's like literally they go in there and you swing on people and you kick people what the fuck is that you know you know on football teams the guys who headbutt each other before the games for fun yeah it's like that on a broader scale with much more on athletic people but there's logic behind the headbutting right like so this is the logic behind it because i did that i had before the first drive of every game i would hit every lineman in the head, right? And it's partly because a lot of the anxiety I had built up was from the physical violence that I was about to get into.

Like, I could literally break a bone and shit, right? So you have to, like, mentally put yourself in that mind frame of I'm about to go to, like, and it kind of like got you used to the physicality of what I was about to happen, right? So that makes sense logically, right? I don't understand the logic behind going to a music festival and like punch anything in the face and that and everybody's cool with it though like yeah it's um so there's a couple different things there's just a massive crowd that's jumping up and down that's

that's just the crowd then there's the circle pit that forms and the circle pit is i think what most people think of as the mosh pit and there are a couple different types of circle pits there's some where people just kind of like go around it's usually counterclockwise for some reason i don't know what That would actually be an interesting psychological discussion or, like, study to understand why most mosh pits go counterclockwise. And some, some mosh pits are just people like, it usually starts out with one dude that's just like throwing his arms and his elbows around as he's running. And it's like, if you run into me, you're catching an elbow. And then there will be another person that sees that person bumps him into them on the side. And then they look at each other and start slamming against each other.

And then there are other dudes. There's always one guy that comes in and he's just like looking for a fight, like actual fist fight. Usually mosh pits aren't about fist fights. They're just about like the dirtiest pick. It's like the dirtiest pickup basketball game that you've ever been in in your life. Prison ball. Yeah. Yeah.

And some people have like safety pins and shit on their clothes that can poke you. But yeah, there's some people that get in there and they just start throwing punches. And then you get people that are nearby that don't really like the music at all. but they're like there's a fight going on yeah let's yeah i i would like to fight right now and it's really it says a lot about the people that are at a show because they have this like pent up desire for violence that they don't act upon until they see like two or three other people acting upon it and then they're like oh it's cool to fight here let's fucking go and then then it becomes just like a massive shit show it's not there's nothing there's never been anything

fun about a mosh pit in my eyes. It's a little little purge is it very it's like two Rams like running straight like to to gain supremacy

over the crowd it's it's I've like the two times I've been anywhere near them I saw Run the Jules when they brought out Zach De La Rocha and there was a dude before the set even started

who it was just like oh he's going to be a problem like tall skinny, like very everything. And he was like kicking, like he was stretching. He was getting ready to fuck people up. And I was just like, I don't want you anywhere fucking near me when this shit starts.

And then I saw Kanye in Philly and he stopped his show and demanded the circles all throughout the crowd happened. He was going to play blood on the leaves, I think, for like the third time. And he was like if you guys aren't getting

into circles and fucking each other up, I'm leaving like it was via conier and i'll never forget this really small girl was right next to me and she just looked at me and was terrified that i was going to end her life and i was like i'm not one of these people but someone did get midair pushed into me and you talk about a leveling that i just put this guy on his back unintentionally i was just enjoying the show but he was airborne and he connected with me and it did not end well for him damn Yeah, it's, it's kind of, I think it's about like you hear the song come on and you naturally, like your body goes through an emotion, like an emotional reaction when you hear a song that you really like, right? And for some people, they don't, they didn't grow up with the tools to be able to express themselves to a song that they like in a constructive way.

Rhythmically. Rhythmically, yeah, in an artistic way. And so if you don't have those tools, then your body is just like, the human body craves contact, right? Jim Harbaugh taught us that where like you naturally want to slam into somebody sometimes. And so when you hear a song like that, come on, you're like, well, what do I do? Your body doesn't know what to do. Might as well get into a fight. Over a thousand people were treated by medical staff.

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I would want to see the original Earthland Fire on stage. I would want to see Michael Jackson in his prime. I would want to see DeAngelo. Okay. He's one of the most talented ever. I would want to see Pock, minus all the homies on the stage. I would want to see him. Like if he, you know what I'm saying?

I don't want to see the outlaws, man. I'm sorry. And I think lastly, I would want to see the non-Magahak Kanye. Okay. Because he actually was on a great show. And I think, tell me if I'm wrong, Coley. The reason why you like the easy album is because you saw him in live on. You saw him in concert with that.

Well, I like the album before that, but it definitely had it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, he's, I mean, he would pause the show because, like, the lighting was, like, he takes it to such a level. Yeah. He's, like, a top three rap performer I've ever seen. And just overall performer top ten, for sure. Like, he's incredible life.

He's good. I also have fire on mine. Like, I can't imagine how enjoyable that would be. I've got Daph Punk. I need to see them. Daph Punk would put on a great show. Since we're talking about Woodstock, I feel like it would be wrong for me to not have Santana on here.

I feel like when you talk about Woodstock, there's two people that come to mind. It's Santana and it's Hendricks. And I need Santana on there. He's personal favorite. Queen, I think Queen, especially with that large of a crowd, like that's, they're built for stadium shows. Everything they have is just Freddie Mercury, of course.

But no disrespect to Adam Lambert, but I need Freddie Mercury. And then I'm going to go counter to you, Aaron. I'm going to say Prince, not MJ. All right, good choice. That's tough, man. I'm with you, don't. I love Prince. I also had Prince on my list.

I've got Prince. I've got Raging Against the Machine. I've got Outcast. Then I've got a nap. Then everybody. They should schedule in nap time, like legitimately at these festivals. I know we're on. a rush, but I tried to take a nap at the last Coachella I was at. Because you, like, you have your

whole day and then there's the headliner, which you try and get ready for. So I was going to go back to the car to nap for like an hour or two. On my walk, I walked through the middle of the field. There's only one guy in the middle of the field. I walk right past him thinking nothing of it. He blows a, he didn't see me coming. He blows a cloud of smoke in my face, which I was just inhaling because that's how human beings walk. I thought nothing of it. I get back to the car, I sit down. I'm like, man, am I jittery? Why am I so fucking jittery?

I am like my heart's racing. I look in the mirror. My pupils are busting out of my head. He methed me. This motherfucker got messed. He met the fuck out of me. I wish I could have like a drone overhead view of what I did in the parking lot because I just started driving around and parking in different spots

because I didn't know what else to do. I rolled up on the event staff and I was like, can you guys like help in any capacity and they just didn't so i just had to wait for my palace to get out of the show all right so i could drive us back to our Airbnb where i like if i hadn't done so much molly in my life it would have been much more of a dire situation so i was somewhat familiar with the effects of meth but that pure meth cloud to the face really does a number on you let me tell you so cool you had a meth trip uh-huh little little casual meth drive-by.

Happens to the best of us. Would it smell? Like, did you know when you got hit with the cloud? You're like, that's, I've been methed. No, I didn't know, like I'm not good enough to pick up drugs that quickly by taste and scent, but it

definitely didn't feel like, it didn't like have the consistency or aura of weed. So I knew it was something. Like, either it was just like the worst weed of all time or something much stronger and it was for sure meth wow how'd you sleep that night uh i mean it was like when everyone finally got because like again this was probably like 6 p.m so everything

probably ends of like 11 so i was just kind of by myself for five hours just having the worst time ever uh and then when everyone got back to the car finally i was just like i have to drive like i can't be a passenger like i need to feel some sort of control and they're all shockingly cool with that uh even knowing my state um so i drove back to the air b and then kind of just like laid on the couch and just waited for the calm down which didn't take too long but wasn't great yeah i can't imagine it would be so you got second hand high from meth oh i for sure got first hand high I don't know. There was this wasn't our contact. Like I just walked straight. Like this guy exhaled perfectly as I was walking past him. It was the cruelest prank God's ever played. Jeez. Yeah, that's tough. All right. So I think I think that's going to, I'm going to stop my five right there. Take a nap and then go home. I think go home early. That's, that's my last. My last act is a thunderstorm comes in. And then the guy gets on the mic. He's, like hey guys we got to jet early um get home safe everybody be careful and then you get in your

cars and you go home that's my perfect concert yeah we've canceled cooio sorry to everyone in attendance yeah there we go uh billy who do you got i got zach brian tyler chowder's um lead zepplin if they were live and then sneaky lana del ray and um um um Last one, Metallica. Okay, you know what? I'm glad you said Metallica because I was thinking as you were listing those bands off, it was like, fuck, I forgot Metallica. So, good call.

Metallica puts on a hell of a live show. The entrance music, that's like the cowboy theme song, Blades of Glory. No, no. Da-na, da, da, da, how am I forgetting it right now? I'm going. I want to keep going. Do, do, do, do, do, do, da-na-na-da-da-da-da.

We might get copyrights. It's good. Yeah, wait. This can't go on YouTube. Yeah. What does it call? Wait. Etto Sandman.

No. Blades of glory. I think it's like on the. Okay. It's actually not by Metallica. Okay. Okay. So you, Metallica's a good choice. I like that. Lana Del Rey, interesting. She's a vibe in concert. I saw, I literally, like, you know, there wasn't that many music festivals around me growing up, but one was Gov Ball.

And Lonndel Ray played at Gov Ball, and it was insane. All right. Big T, who you got? I've got to really cut this down. I read at least five, so I have 18, so I've got to cut this down. What? Most of these are similar country artists, so we can. just boil them all down. We'll say, we'll pick Luke cones out of those. He just puts out hits. Another one that I recently discovered, uh, we have forgotten how good Daughtry was. Daughtry has nothing but bangers. And I recently rediscovered that I know every word to every Daughtry song. So I'd like them to be there. Jeff D. Lowe is a massive, massive Daughtry fan. Absolutely underappreciated. Um, I've really, so I will also do what area did. I have Kanye, but only before like 2013. Nothing after

Jesus. He can only perform like my beautiful dark twist of fantasy and before. Before he became Christian. Got it. The music was better. I want Justin Timberlake, one of my favorite artists of all time, even though in the 90s he claimed to be a Tennessee fan and then his since switched back to Memphis now that Memphis is good. He's kind of a fraud in that respect. I want Kerry Underwood. I also want Hillary Duff, but only performing the Metamorphosis album. And then I want, I've gone over five, but these two are critical. I want two stages, one each dedicated to Lee Greenwood, and he only does, God bless the USA on a loop.

And the other is the pride of the Southland band performing Rocky Top also on a loop. We were talking about crowds I wouldn't feel comfortable in. That's one of them. Yeah, so that's my festival. The ecstasy of gold. There were about 12 more, but we'll skip them. I would also, since me and Aaron both had Earth, went in fire, I would like to substitute EFWF with James Brown.

Ooh, hardest working man show business. And his band, like his band kicked ass. Oh, yeah. I mean, like I was trying to picture like an entire night, like flowing well into. The only one who really doesn't flow with everyone I've got is Santana, but they'll be on enough drugs to match the vibes in the night. Well, you know why his band kicks so much ass was because, like, James Brown would have you fired. You know how he would stop a song.

He'd go, give me three times. Then he'd go, bam, bam, bam, with his hand, expecting the band to hit those notes exactly. If you missed one of them, he would just straight up fire you. He was known as being like a dictator back there. Yeah. Yeah. Don't fuck up the show. Mad Dog, who you got?

Yeah. So I want everyone that's listening to this. You guys are nice who I hope won't make fun of me, but I want everyone to listen to this. to remember that I'm a 22-year-old white girl. I don't think people forgot. I know, but like these fans are like... Wait, she's not a geriatric mongol? No, 22-year-old white girl.

So, number one, One Direction. I don't give a fuck what anyone says. One Direction is the best concert I've ever been to. I was 16 years old, and I peaked that evening. I remember the date. I just hit my six-year anniversary, August 22nd, 2015. That was one of the best nights of my life. and it kind of because I'm a big Harry Styles fan still

so kind of like gives me a two for one there because he's there see I'm going to I'm going to rival what you guys have said I want Kanye I went to the Life of Pablo tour and it was amazing and I want maybe not his current music but I want that environment and the stage that hovered over the crowd and then everyone under the crowd just moved with it you want him to be like ascended through the roof of the

Mercedes-Benz Atlanta Dome, the butthole that's on the top of it just like sucked out into outer space. Like that was actually one of the cool things. And so I saw it in 2016 as well. And it was like three months after the Cavs won. And the whole entire Cavs team was there. So he was singing to LeBron James at some point. And that was like, that was pretty sick. So I want that environment maybe. And then him to play like what they were saying only before like Jesus. Tyler the Creator, big Tyler the Creator girl, I wanted to see him in Madison Square Garden, but I don't know if I'm going to be able to afford tickets to that because they're crazy. It's your concert. Yeah, money doesn't isn't an option. But Tyler the Creator, I feel like we put on a really good concert. I feel like he would put on a really good concert. I feel like him. I mean, he cares a ton about every aspect of his performance. He's really good. Yeah, I really like him. I think he would be a really good concert. I switched one of mine out for Queen because I love Queen and good old fashioned lover boys. My favorite song of all time. And I think that would be really good at one. And then lastly is Megan the Stallion. Okay. I feel like that would be good. Like, I feel like that's like all, like, I feel like those are good vibes.

Yeah. Like a lot of like, I don't want like a sad, like I don't want like Phoebe Bridgers or something to like ruin the vibes. Remember, remember when Tori Lane shot Megan the Stallion? Yeah. Like what the fuck? Like recently. Yeah. In the foot, right?

I made the news. Yeah. Like in the leg. Does she get arrested? No. I don't know That's what I said he Did he

Did he Well known male Tori Lane get arrested I don't know I hate him For shooting Megan a stallion I don't I mean I don't think he did

He He's a real bitch So yeah Those are my five But I can say that because It's a he's a heat He's a heat

Yeah It's not massaging Like it's a bitch move Shooting Megan Estalian Pussy move too Is he No well pussy We remember

We're reclaiming pussy. Who's we? Me personally. Pussy, you shouldn't use it as a negative. Pussies are the strongest thing on the planet. True. They give birth to life.

True. Pussy, I'm reclaiming it as being a totally positive. We're not taking possession of any. We're not taking possession. I'm reclaiming. No, we're not. As a male, I'm reclaiming pussy. It's not a possession.

To have it means something strong. There's no ownership. It's not a possession. You don't get it. I'm, Dillie, I'm taking pussy and I'm making. Still. I'm taking. making it. We're repurposing the word. The word. I'm saying I'm repurposing the word by force.

Yeah, what aren't you getting here, Bill? No, I'm on the same page. I'm, I'm in, in order to make it as least as, as, as less misogynistic as possible, I'm stealing the word pussy from women. And I'm applying it to my traditional masculine idea of what strength is. In that way, I'm being the least misogynistic person on the planet. On behalf of women, we say thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. You stole it. Women don't thank me enough for all that I do for them. You're appropriating women culture on various levels. I am not.

The hair? You're mansplaining. You're Billy, you pretend to speak for all women? You're appropriating women. Whatever. I don't even know what those words mean. I'm appropriate because I have long hair. Yeah.

Everybody on your list for bands that you would have at your concert has long hair. It was a joke. you remember that that used to be like a real actual insult that you could say to people back in like the 70s like is that a boy or a girl you know like Bob Seeger wrote about that on the road do you ever get like called ma'am yeah from so sometimes if I'm at a restaurant and I'm at a table with a lady or several ladies not to brag the server will come up from behind and they'll look at the table and see like hey ladies and they'll turn on like oh I'm so sorry yeah It happens. But you know what? Then I like to look at them and I get to pretend like I'm angry and make them sweat for a second. I'm like, no, I really don't care. And you can say, no, it's okay. I've reclaimed the word pussy. I'm the pussy king. They call me Mr. Pussy. Yeah, I should sell shirts and say, ask me about my pussy. Yep, they should. Those hats you were talking about earlier, just one that says pussy on it. Yeah, just a, you know what? It's just a, you know what? It's just a, a fedora and then on the top it's got a nice little design reminiscent of the outer vulva

labia majora I can go on about pussy the bottom line is you shouldn't use pussy as a pejorative we're bringing pussy back uh... Avery who's on your list all right huge miss from everybody cold play have to have cold play

I think they're electric and you can go on Spotify and listen their live music they they put out a crowd like when they when they go everybody knows their songs uh big t was right with justin timber lake have to go j t i said drake i went to the summer 16 concert at the garden he was unbelievable like and he just has so many recognizable songs just get the crowd going j z and then i think i would just throw in uh lincoln park with j z just have that dynamic duo let them go out together a little bit of nama encore you know what i would like to see i feel like anthrax used to do

a lot of concerts with hip hop performers. Like the cross-up, the big cross-up. I like it when a metal band gets together with like a hip-hop act and they create stuff. I think it was anthrax and public enemy. I would like to see them in concert. I think that would kick ass.

Who'd we miss? Big T. I know you've got like a dozen. I've got about 12 more I could get me. Leonard Skinner would also be sick in concert. Yeah, I agree. I feel like my my seventh man on the bench because I technically gave six

and probably be like Fleetwood Mac Oh yeah Yep Ooh that's a good one Good call Big T give us two more Two more Jimmy Eat World

And Lifehouse I gotta go back I'm taking Lincoln Park off For Dave Matthews band Okay Lifehouse Another band like Daughtry Has just absolute hits

Lifehouse Chasing after you Bruce Springsteen Bruce the boss The boss would be good for sure Billy Joel is a really good concert I've been to Oh and then closing it out

Jimmy Buffett Send everybody home with a smile on their face Yeah Buffman Have like It'd be very funny to see like Jimmy Buffett do a mashup concert With like a really famous rapper

Like the most violent rapper that you can think of See a murder Jimmy Buffett Oh what about What about... Twista? What about Eminem in the day? Yeah.

Yeah. What was the Up and Smoke tour? Early 2000s? I find it ironic that the guy who was just saying PFT's verbiage of reclaiming a word was problematic wants to have Eminem from back in the day. Do you really think I was actually calling a problematic? Very funny. You know what?

His old stuff. Yeah. If you know what I mean Yeah Only the skits that you perform All nine Ken Ken Knev skits, yes Yeah I want to yeah just I want him doing all the songs about his ex-wife

I want the LPs Yeah Only the LPs What do you guys think about Here's this would actually be a pretty decent combination right here Killer Mike No we'll say run the jewels Run the Jules

Run the Jules and Ramstein together. Yeah. They do stuff with rage, so it kind of makes sense. Yeah. This would be a kick-ass concert.

So can we put together a fake concert poster? Flyer. Wait, throw Creed in there. Creed. Just like the side, like one stage has it. It should be a two-day concert.

First day is all of our bands. And then day two is just Creed. Yeah. What is your guys? And Nickelback. And nickelback. No, no. You know what?

I just want a little part of the music festival. Just like it's hard to get there and only the guys who seek it out can go there. And it's Creed, Nickelback. Like that you want the hipster stage to have Nickelback play on it. Yeah, Creed, Nickelback, you know, what is it? Oh, smash mouth. Oh, they're going to tweet about that. It's like when you're buying the tickets is like the last option.

It's like a little check box. It's like paying extra four. 40 bucks to see these guys. Yeah. And, you know, like, those who want to just can go over there and just, like, totally be douchebag assholes and be, like, knocking their heads and nickel back. It's just, just, like, for the fun guys. And, you know, people go there ironically, but they'll actually enjoy it.

You know what? I kind of like the idea of having creed, nickel back, and smash mouth all performing on the same stage at the same time. Not at the same time. Yes, no, at the same time. That would be sick. like that would actually drive you insane i think i think if you're sitting without question listening to those bands play all they would probably have to do is play one or two songs and by the time they're

done like the whole crowd is they need to be hauled off to a loony band no no just like in that in between between like the dardy bands like the day performances and like the main event at night in that like twilight period like when everyone else is like passed out taking a nap that four to seven at range, I want to see you know, five finger death punch nickel back, smash him out and creed. Just like line them up. And just

just for the guys who want to have fun. Okay. Just you know like maybe it can be Sunday, Billy's stage and the total like admission is just one person. It's just Billy. A couple guys. You want

somebody to mosh with. No, not even mosh. Like maybe throw kid rock there like some of the good stuff billy and his cousin dale they're the only ones they get to go watch this concert kid rock's already booked at big t's and then put put like one dollar drafts in that area i think billy billy understands the festival business and make it a really like you know yeah i think that would be pretty cool yeah what yeah what would you guys serve at like if you had three things that you could serve at the festival. Good question. Number one, I would serve the ice cream that comes in the souvenir helmets. Got to have that. I would do probably just a hot dog.

I think a hot dog is always a good idea. And then for the third one, I'm going to go with the nachos with the most yellow cheese known to all mankind. Served and it's a nacho sombrero. Yes, and the nachos. Yes, I love that in the nachos. buckets of cookies from the Minnesota State Fair Ooh, okay The gooey ones I like that also

And milk Yep, got to have the milk You know what they should have done This would have solved all the problems At Woodstock 99 Just release a bunch of cute dogs Out into the crowd And people are just like

Too busy leaning over Like giving them good scratches And belly rubs No one's gonna be moshing No one's gonna be burning shit down If there are cute dogs Running around everywhere, right? they might actually get stepped on.

No, they wouldn't. People would be too careful with the dogs. I also think that they should have just released all the homeless dogs that they had in all the shelters in the state of New York into that crowd. There are 300,000 people there. You know how many people go to a concert like that? They spend a couple days. And like there's one dog that won't stop, you know, hanging out with him, won't leave him alone. Somebody from that group is just going to be like, yo, we got to take the Woodstock dog home.

It's so crazy. like oh oh for the rest of my life i'm going to be like yo this is macy she found us in between corn sets at uh woodstock 99 no i say release all the former fighting pit bulls into the corn crowd oh you have them take out yeah the mosh yeah the bad guys just put them into the mosh okay that's i think the the the the crux of our argument is the same which is just a bunch of dogs would have fixed everything yeah all right what would you guys serve uh i want the the yankee stadium cup that has the chicken tenders in it you know what i'm talking about it's a food drink combo cup one of my favorite inventions of all time uh dipping dots and angry orchard okay

dipping dots is a good call yeah angry orchard okay big tea angry orchard is i want angry orchard to be the only alcohol served there so that everyone has to drink angry orchard and then they're like fuck this is actually delicious we should all drink more angry orchard no free ads Are they paying you? What was that? No, they should. I would, brother, I would love nothing more than for Angry Orchard to pay me. Because I pay them a lot.

Is that like your go-to beer? Oh, yeah. Saturday, we down some Angry Orchards. Did you down some on Thursday as well? Thursday, yeah. Thursday, we had some Angry Orchards. Are you okay? Am I okay?

Yeah, I'm doing fantastic. You don't drink. No, that's not true. You don't really drink. You've been on a little bender. the last fucking hammering and angry orchards. I have, I'm making up for lost time. Did you drink in college

at all? No. So like, what'd you do? Who, who? Who is, anyway, you know, what did people do? I went to school, fucking played video games, I don't know. Like, what'd you do on the weekends?

Like, did you go to bars and just not drink? Occasionally, but rarely. Is Tennessee a big bar school or party school i don't even know yeah huh huh yes huh so all right i'm just i'm just a little concerned about you

no i'm doing fantastic i saw i saw i saw big tea if you if you want to cut this this is okay but i saw big tea Thursday night out and i mean yeah there were a lot of people out from our company and i i saw him with a beer in his hand and i was like whoa is everything doing okay over there and you're like yeah i'm having good night he's doing great should we come

Do we need to cut that? I don't know. I just find it to be a weird conversation. I just want to ask you, are you drinking to have fun and you want to drink or are you doing it to mask anything? Billy, I'm so sick of your bullshit. I'm really just about over it, like, to be honest. No, I'm just asking as a concerned podcast member. Billy, I didn't drink until I was like 23 years old.

If I wanted to drink to mask something, it would have been done long. No, you obviously asked that. Oh, no, no, what do you think? I was saying emotional turmoil. It's anything we won't need to discuss. The only emotional turmoil I have right now is having to deal with you. Okay. You're driving big tea to drink.

Are you happy with yourself, Billy? Like what you've done to our sweet boy? Did you show you didn't drink before you started this podcast? I probably started drinking right around the time we started this podcast. That's what I was looking for. No, but it was it was right before, I think. We hadn't done the first episode yet. Well, if you need to talk to anybody about a big tea.

We'll do. Let us know. It's better help a sponsor on this episode? I'm not sure if they are, but if not cut that part. I'll tell you what, Big Tea. Just, you know, once you start, I get worried once I hear that Big T's graduated to the hard stuff like Angry Orchard. Like, stick to Zima. Oh, my God.

You know, keep it light. Maybe a glass of red wine. I tried wine for the first time recently. it's repulsive what about apple juice I like that well all wine wine stinks not not a fan

I need you like frank does his soda reviews I need you doing different alcohol reviews and just being like nope we can arrange that because I've done it for free can you just make a quote board and it just says wine is bad big tea

yeah I got it I'm on it it is big tea it's actually really good for your heart one a day. Billy, shut the fucking. You should drink one class a day. It is. The antioxidants. You should drink red wine and you should eat dark chocolate. Those two

things are very good for your heart. What led you to, I have questions. What led you to one not drink? What led you to two have your first drink? We can have this conversation later. Get back to the fucking show. I want to have walk a flak a flame at the

at the music. performance because I think he puts together some of the greatest symphonies of all time. But like his old stuff. Greatest symphonist Greatest symphony composer of all time Mr. Flame. I want to hear his stuff off of the Flakevelli,

some of the Twin Towers remixes he did. Wolfgang Amadeus Flame. Ludwig von Flaka. Oh, and Chief Keefe. Chief Keefe should be there. Okay. Are they gone before or after Nickelback?

They're in my private venue. They're invited to my little private side venue. Billy's, you're hoarding all the, all the hype stage. And then it's just the Billy personal hype stage. So it's like hidden in the woods. Like you have to like,

if you get lost from the regular stage, you just find this clearing in the middle of woods where my like crazy EDM caught like, like that's happening. No, it's just, it's you, your cousin Dale, your private. stage and then there's just weights. So you're working

out too. There's a bunch of dudes there and then we all get hyped up and then we get released onto the rest of the festival after it's all done. Billy has a shoulder pump for the rest of his festival. And you have to go find the dogs. We've got to find the attack dogs. I like

this festival. I should specify also all the bands that I said, Travis Barker is the drummer for all of them. He's just drumming the entire time. so actually my my private festival is all this it's the pregame to the festival for all these security guards okay so we're all there yeah all right got you who's working security and then they send you out into the crowd to beat the fuck out of anyone who's trying to do any sexual assaults yeah that's what would have saved woodstock actually yeah if they just had a private hype stage with coach billy

the hype coach who is searching for pedophiles yes you're just out there yeah there you go billy boom um when you make the the graphic for this it's going to be kind of tough to remember everything that we said um but if you can make like it doesn't matter how small the font gets just yeah

wine is bad no no no I'm talking about for the oh for like the Mount Rushmore of the flyers for the flyer for our entire concert yeah would you want it I don't think I would want my festival to be in like a festival atmosphere if that makes sense like I would want it to be more comfortable like indoors maybe some couches

yeah like my feet would start to hurt I don't want there to be that many people there you just want to watch a concert from your house can it be on a bitch yeah you can do beach I'm so in on that I mean they do they do Alta in Miami from like all the pools and all the clubs

which is a very strong way to go about it oh wait can I have mine being a pool I went swimming for the first time yesterday all summer and I literally was so excited. I would want mine to be in a pool. There is a pool at the venue. It gets disgusting, though. Probably.

Not if there's not that many people there. Yeah, I wonder if, let's say hypothetically Jeff Bezos is like, you know what? I've got $5 billion that I just, you know, you can't take it with you when you die. So might as well blow it this weekend, like bachelor party essentially or divorce party.

If he just had $5 billion, do you think he could get this entire lineup of bands to play a personal concert for him and his girlfriend? I think he could do it for like $500 million. No, I don't know. How much does it cost to put on like a Coachella? Well, I know like, I think Metallica, last time I checked, they cost like $700,000 to play a 40-minute set.

But that's not including like all the stuff that goes on behind the scenes. Like they'd need to be flown out there. You'd have to get them accommodations. you'd have to get the stage, you'd have to purchase a stage. Okay, so a billion? I feel like we could do that for a billion. Maybe a billion, yeah. But then you also have to get the bands to agree to it.

So I'm guessing in this situation, you have to, like, way, way overpay. Because, like, I don't think that public enemy is going to come out and play, like, a private concert for Jeff Bezos. They're not going to sell out for their normal rate. They're going to sell out, like, you'd have to pay, I don't know, like, $10 million and they do it. We should have a roaming pack of alpacas at the festival, just running around. All right. I think this probably brings this week's episode to a close.

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to meet someone in my life for whom i would risk going to prison for being an accomplice to murder however ideally you're married to someone who you would do that for so i don't know yet as of yet to this day in my life i've not met someone that i would do that for that's how you know though first that's how you know what when you're in love but it's but yeah Some people get like tingles. Some people get butterflies in their stomach. Some people are like, you know what? I would murder.

I would do a murder with you. Yeah. I think that's, I think that's a fair barometer. What about your mom? She's listening right now. You think Mrs. T.

Are you a little, like, upset that your son wouldn't? You shouldn't have told me. Why? If it, no, like if my mom came and said, I killed somebody, I'd be like, that's real tough for you because now I've got to, I've got to do what I got to do. Bro, I'd ask five questions. I've got to do. I'm not going. I'm not going to prison.

My civic duty calls, Ma. I hope you understand. You should have raised me so good, mom. You think if we called her right now and it was just like you acting all serious saying like, mom, I just killed someone, you think she believed you? No. No, not even a little bit. You just asked like five questions. Probably not five. I haven't counted them yet. First, who did you kill? Second, why did you kill them? Third, how do we make this look like self-defense?

if it isn't fourth I thought you were just doing the who what when where why yeah that's where it seemed like it was gone yeah just like figure out the situation I mean you know all right Billy you put yourself in that mindset

you can get more than three like somebody just confessed a murder to you I'm sure you have more than three questions who what when where why well you can do that yeah and then because then it might be easy it might just be like you know oh this could definitely pass as a manslaughter charge

and you get off with for community service. All right. Yeah, I like that response. I think if it's some, yeah, if I'm in love with this person, I'm not turning them in. Unless, wait, now I'm thinking, I agree with Billy. You got to say, like, who'd you kill? Yeah.

Yeah. And then if the thought, like, even occurs you, like, yeah, I could see why you would want to kill this person for, you know, like, you get, oh, yeah, that person probably, they had a bad side. I could envision a reason why you would want to kill them. I'm right or die. That's just me. That's just the kind of guy that I am.

Like a lot of people are like, yo, PFT, you wouldn't send a woman to prison. No, I believe in standing up for the rights of my women. And so if there's a woman out there that I'm in love with, you know how I feel about women. That's because you're a pussy. I'm a pussy. Yeah. Listen, if you're a big enough pussy to kill somebody, then I'm certainly a big enough pussy to not turn you in. So strong.

In a good way. Yeah. These are all in the good ways. So strong. Thank you. Elastic. you know what episiotomy is billy what's that it's when they have to cut the vagina between the vagina and the butthole when they give birth yeah sometimes you got to do it it's just i mean

pussies are so strong aren't they it's actually amazing what pussies are able to do i'm serious billy's reconsidering being a heterosexual male i think at this point wearing the pros and cons are we got any more voicemails what big tea i'm saying i think you're about to say so all right what's going on dude this is mike from new jersey i have a pretty intense question to ask you that my effed up brain just came up with with uh advancements in technology and medical science here's my question for you about organ donation um say with you know in the future you get yourself cloned but you develop cancer do you think so say like your colon needs to be removed if you have colon cancer you remove it do you think it's unethical to

use your clone um colon to put in your body um let me know what you think damn uh it's a it's a good question honestly wait hypothetically, by that time that they can clone a full person, they'd be able to grow organs using your own cells. Billy's right. That's how they are starting. So using stem cell technology, you're able to, like, pretty soon you'll be able to clone an organ of yourself.

Plus, you can survive without your colon. That's a good point. Yeah, but he's thinking about like his pancreas. Yeah, no, but even, what can't you live without? You can survive without your pancreas. So, wait, Billy, but that brings up another good question. if you had a clone that had like a great colon ready to go like that thing is just like fresh off the lot and yours was about to be removed do you live the rest of your life from this age on with a colostomy bag

or do you take it from your clone and make your clone live with a colostomy bag yeah because just because billy just because you don't need the colon doesn't mean that your life wouldn't be exponentially worse. So if you, if your clone had the ability to give you a perfectly good colon and then your life would be the same quality,

wouldn't you want that over the Colosomy Mag? Dude. This is the giving tree all over again. I'll go on the record. Fuck that clone. There we go. I like a big tip.

If the clone is not sentient enough to care if I'm taking out its colon, yeah, I'm taking it. Spin zone. Your clone. is your clone so it thinks the exact same way so your clone's already plowing to kill you.

Like if I say if I had another clone I'd be nice to it, then the clone thinks like me so then the clone isn't trying to kill me. You've already set the president that you'd kill your clone so your clone is trying to kill you. Why wouldn't your clone be hatching the same plan as you? Thank you. Thank you, Colin.

Because I am deep within me pro clone. I will not. No, you're not. You're just talking about how you would lied to your clone. I'm not lying. I will not kill my clone, but Big T wants to kill his clone. But at least you have a mutual understanding. Billy, you're doing all this backstabbing and conniving.

I'm not backstabbing. I'm not backstabbing my clone. Like, I do not want to kill my clone. You just said that you would lie to it and be nice to it so that you could kill it. No. No. I just said I will not. Okay.

I like Big T's response, though. Like, yeah, fuck that clone. Yeah. If I can make one, why can't I keep making clones? like they're disposable it'd be really tough though when your clone was begging you not to kill it and it's like you're looking at yourself you're looking at yourself yeah like you're looking at yourself i've wanted to take myself out for a long time i'm sure it would be some a little joyful yeah it would be probably something you'd have to go see a psychiatrist for after it was over i think i

would do it i think i would kill my but would your clone die that's the thing it would be such a fair fight it would be yeah yeah talk about jake paul imagine jake paul and jake paul the ultimate nature versus nurture right so like it would just kind of be luck where it's like 50% of time one clone will win 50% the other unless one grows up in a fighting environment and the other like one grows up a vegan and the other grows up you know eating like a carnivores diet uh huh bill you should get into cloning Just something to think about. We got any more voicemails? That's it.

All right. That's it. Cool. Good, good sewed, guys. Good sewed. Join us next week. Actually, next is so it's Labor Day coming up this weekend, right? Yeah.

Labor Day, shout out to all those who celebrate. And we're not going to be in the office on Monday. What's up, Billy? Never mind. What? Labor Day celebration of. Pussies. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah. Absolutely. So happy pussy day. on Monday. But yeah, we need to figure out what we're doing for next week. We could either record something later on the week, drop it. I don't know. Or we could record on Wednesday, put it out on like a Thursday soad.

Yeah. Something like that. We'll talk it over. We'll figure it out. Any suggestions for episodes, let us know. I do want to do the China episode, though. I feel like that's got a lot of promise. We still have China.

We've got the JFK assassinations. these are just some of the examples of things that we've been tossing around in the group chat indigenous people that were in the United States before Columbus no just any pre contact with America Lee ferrickson or Eric the Redd there may be the origin of different native tribes are unknown yeah my woolly mammoth that's probably where I got it from I want to do a super info jam packed episode next episode super info jam packed episode that's like boom i promise you next week there'll it will be the super info jam packed episode i want to get the facts just like jammed into these people's brains how many facts so give me give me a fact literally they're going to leave and be like

i learned so much in the facts can be hard hitting okay hard hitting facts super jam packed episode of facts next weekend information japanese game show title yep I like that. All right. We'll see you guys next week on macro dosing. Love you guys.