Macrodosing: Arian Foster and PFT Commenter - Yellow Journalism

Episode Date: July 20, 2021

On today's episode of Macrodosing, the crew talks about how Yellow Journalism misguided millions of people with false information. From the past to present there has been examples of yellow journalism... everywhere and you'll hear all about it on the show. Also, we recap last weeks episode which eventually gets us into a heated chicken debate. You don't want to miss it. The NBA, Ratings, and Dolly World 0:00 - 25:00 Looking for an Athlete 25:00 - 37:00 Mass Hysteria Recap 37:00 - 48:00 Yellow Journalism 48:00 - 1:08:00 Chicken Debate 1:08:00 - 1:16:00 Arian's Take On Journalistic Integrity 1:32:00 - 2:00:00You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/macrodosing

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, Macrodosing listeners, you can find us every Tuesday and Thursday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. Welcome back to Macro Dosing. This is episode 21? Is it 21? Episode... Holy shit, really? I just guessed 21, and I was right.
Starting point is 00:00:18 That's got to be worth something. It's episode 21. It is the only podcast available on Spotify, iTunes, Stitcher. The only one you can listen to. Thank you for tuning in. It's me PFT. We got the whole squad here today. Coley's back from his sex vacation.
Starting point is 00:00:32 That's what they're calling her, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So big, time sex, have her. No longer a virgin. Coley, Mick, the McMahon is married. Congrats, Coley. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:00:44 Two-year anniversary in our wedding. We're the same weekend. So that's always, always good. I love that. I love that. What's, do you feel any different now that you're officially married? Not really. Like when, like, we got married.
Starting point is 00:01:00 in a court in New York City two years ago because we were having the kid, we were already engaged. We got married and then we were supposed to have it last year. Some things came up, got in the way. So it was more just like almost a relief that it was done with because it was like there's only so many times you can relook at seating charts for a year and a half. Yeah, I like that. Well, congratulations. Thanks, I saw that Dwayne Haskins when he, you know, the thing that happened with him like last week, his wife got arrested for punching him in the face and like knocking his tooth out. I guess they were in Vegas having a vow renewal ceremony. And if you're, if you're 24 years old and you're renewing your vows and you're having like a big party for it, you might
Starting point is 00:01:45 as well just tell everybody, hey, we both cheated on each other. So can you come out to Vegas and we'll just try to start? Let's just blank slate, clean page for both parties. And we're going to send out of invitations for it. That would be the first thing I went through my mind at least. Yeah, I don't know, that was a weird story because I thought I saw that he'd gotten married and then the story was about something that happened before they got married. I might be wrong about the timeline, but I do know that he was renewing his vows. Yeah. Which when you're 24 years old, it's like, wow, okay, loud and clear. Got it.
Starting point is 00:02:18 We all make mistakes. We got Arian back. How's it going, Aaron? I'm chilling, man. How are you living? Good, good. Living that short life. I don't know if people, I saw a bunch of people tagged you in the picture of me.
Starting point is 00:02:30 with a dog in the water. That was probably very triggering for you. So maybe I'm going to have to update your, your filters on that one. It's not triggering and people keep tagging me in everything dog now. Like any kind of there's people loving dogs, they tag me in. Sounds awful. They like it just blows my blood. And I just don't, I couldn't care less.
Starting point is 00:02:49 That's, it was funny. I don't know. We got the whole squad back here in the studio as well. Billy was very hard at work on today's episode. Billy, to his credit, put together a hell of a sheet. we've got a great sheet for this episode it's going to be a good one too I know that Big T's been fired up about this for a while
Starting point is 00:03:06 just ready to like chomping at the bit to get into the old yellow journalism and I think we're going to touch on yellow journalism in many different eras like going back you're going to do like Ben Franklin right Big Tee? Yep yeah so we're going to go way back and then there's stuff that we can talk about to this very day right now
Starting point is 00:03:24 so I don't know anything you guys want to get into off the top anything not directly related to yellow journalism, but stuff you want to catch up about? You know, it's wild. It's like this is supposedly one of the best finals that have been in a very long time. And I haven't watched one game, though.
Starting point is 00:03:43 I feel horrible. You're anti-small markets? No, it's just, I have so much shit going on that I really just forgot. And I got just, I'd be watching the recaps on Twitter and shit. Like, is, am I missing out like that? Yeah. Especially the last, like, three games
Starting point is 00:03:59 have been just incredible. At, like, the crowd reactions for the last game, like I feel like Phoenix and their fans have had such a great postseason and all of it was undone. I'm sure PFT will disagree because he was loving the fans in Phoenix last game, but it was just like, oh,
Starting point is 00:04:16 it felt like a wannabe Lakers game with that crowd. Yeah, they got, I think what happened was a lot of the Phoenix fans started to read the press clippings a little bit, and they started to almost become caricatures of themselves. Whereas before it was, like just a bunch of pure weirdos out in the desert in Phoenix, like a bunch of outcasts from L.A. that moved down to Arizona, got into the heat there. And then they just walk around delusional all the time, whether it be from sweating too much or doing whatever design or drugs
Starting point is 00:04:43 they got going on in the valley. Just like the most pure version of Arizona bros. And then at the last game, there was that one dude. I actually kind of like the guy with the money. I hate that fucking guy. I love it for how ridiculous it is because like the dude went to the ATM. Actually, He probably had to go to sell, either to his bank to withdraw the cash, or he had to go to three different ATMs, because I think usually you get a $500 a day limit, right? Or he's a dope boy. Yeah, I was going to say, yeah, judging, I don't want to be insinuating too much, but those might have been transactions where he acquired those hundreds. The only reason I disagree is because they look pretty crisp. They didn't look like they had been rolled in.
Starting point is 00:05:29 to tightly wound circles. Listen, I don't think he was using them. I think he was a supplier of sorts. But still, I don't know. I guess I'm not an expert in buying and selling drugs, just using them. But if you were to like be doing committing all these transactions, you're not getting like freshly pressed $100 bills, right? Like they've got, they've passed through a couple people's hands because you have that like $9,000
Starting point is 00:05:56 a year limit or whatever. in cash that you can put into a bank before it starts to trigger federal, like, red flags. So I'd imagine that that cash gets passed around. Yeah, from from my experience with movies and things of the like, they're not even like testing, testing the product with the bills. It's always a knife. There's always a knife being stabbed into a package and a very small amount being brought out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And also, I've noticed that the cops and movies a lot, they just like put it on their tongue real quickly. Yeah. This is good shit. How do you know, officer? Yeah, what's that training session like where they're like, all right, today is the day we do heroin. You're going to differentiate between black tar and something very stepped on.
Starting point is 00:06:44 This is Eastern Colombian. Yeah. No, Venezuelan. It's Venezuelan. Yeah, I actually had an idea. I don't know if you guys would be into this or not. I've always, I was talking about this a while ago. but do you know how can you just like look up online how to make crack yeah it's that easy
Starting point is 00:07:06 you can just google how to how to make crack yeah yeah it's it's one of those things like googling how to make a bomb like you're going to end up on a list somewhere but the information is for sure available billy just switched over to incognito to google it the screen the frame went black on it yeah uh i actually think that might be a fun science experiment to do at some point. Oh, if you go and search how to make crack, you get much better answers than Google.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Can you tell us how to make crack, Billy? Cooking how to make, cooking crack cocaine, how crack is made. Oh, here's a step by step. First,
Starting point is 00:07:46 call up the CIA. Yeah. Supplies you will need. A small glass container to heat up to cook. We got to make, you know how. I recs. There are a shitload of like a,
Starting point is 00:07:57 maybe boomer age, maybe a little bit younger age, like TikTok stars that are doing like stay at home, mom type things. Like here are some hacks on how to feed your kids. We should do it in where it's like quick, easy recipes for the whole family on how to make the best crack cocaine. It'll last you through the week. Surprise ingredient you might not have expected. Manez.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Jesus. What the fuck, man. So, Billy, go out. But, yeah, to answer your question, Aaron is the great finals, Janus the Beast. I'm out on Chris Paul, by the way. I don't know if you guys... What took so long? I saw you guys talked about that today, like debating whether or not.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And is Chris a friend of yours, Aaron, or is that James? Yeah, that's the homie. Okay, well, yeah, he's a scumbag in between those lines. All four of those lines, he's been a chief shot artist. Julius Hodge is still... tweeting negative things about him for something that happened about 20 years ago. But this is what I don't get, though. Like, if you've played competitive sports, like, there's just, like, two type of people.
Starting point is 00:09:08 There's this little cornball in that basketball commercial who's like, coach, I stepped out. It's off me. There's them type niggas. Or it's like you out here trying to win at all costs. Like, give me Pat Bev and CP3 all day on my squad. Of course, I don't like them when they're not on my team. But, like, when they're on my team, I love that shit. I get it, but even, like, as an ardent Marcus smart defender, like, there is a line.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And Chris can sit, like, you just don't punch, like, and I know this happens a lot in football. You just don't punch another guy in the nuts, and he just won't stop doing it. Now, I think it's corny, right? There's, there's, there's, it's, it's corny, but like, you're just trying to, like, fuck with him. Like, I get it. Like, I get it. Like, there's cats. I used to twist ankles, grab nuts.
Starting point is 00:09:52 It was weird, weird or shit. But, like, I get it. Like, I wasn't, like, I didn't want to fight him. You're just trying to win. Definitely. But the other part, Pat Bev and Chris Paul, career losers, haven't won anything. That ain't day fault. Like, you can't, like, like, you can't.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Like, it's hard for a scoring point guard without another centerpiece that complements your game to win a championship. Definitely. It's hard. Definitely. My biggest complaint with Chris Paul, not even with, like, like the over the line shit he does from time to time. It's just like it's always with his fans. His fans so quickly.
Starting point is 00:10:35 It's like Mike Trout fans. Mike Trout fans three years into his career were like, oh, he's better than Barry Bunce. Like, no, he's not. Let's calm down with that. Very early into Chris Paul's career, they were trying to leapfrog like Jason Kidd, Gary Payton and just be like, he's the best we've seen since magic.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And it's like, how about we just tone it down a little bit? Like, yeah, he's an all-time great, no question about it. However, he's not the best. point guard of his error. So why don't we calm down with that? It's not the best point guard of his era. Give me one. Jason Williams. No. By the way, the highlight reel that went around of Jason Williams last week, it's unbelievable how many incredible
Starting point is 00:11:15 highlights he had. And it wasn't like the longest career. He had a good solid career. But his highlight reel was probably like nine minutes. And these weren't highlights of like, we'll show you one pass and then three alternate angles of the same pass like they do to stretch out. Usually it's a soccer highlight. They'll show like five minutes of different angles of the same goal.
Starting point is 00:11:35 But this was just straight up like nine minutes of nothing but dimes from Jason Williams. It was incredible. But I would say like, I mean, Steve Nash, Jason Kidd. No, I do think he's past them. I, like, Steph is better. He just is. He goes out of his way to embarrass him.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Was that CP's error? Yeah, I mean, Chris Paul? I'm saying like the last 20 years. Chris Paul was drafted, what, three years before Seth Curry? Oh, five, yeah, and Curry was like, 09, I think. Yeah. But, okay, so who dominated for a longer stretch? Correct, that's stuff for Curry.
Starting point is 00:12:06 No. Yes. Yeah. No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I'm a step fan. Don't be wrong. Don't know what it was Steph. I'm a step fan of the Hall of Fame.
Starting point is 00:12:14 One of the best one of the best one. I think he's a great shooter at all time. But, no, Steph, step ain't start bombing like that until like, it was like three or four years in his career. And by that time, CP3 was already like all pro. Steph was, Steph came out. I think the first year of his career was his lowest average, and I still think it was 17. Like, just because people weren't giving him the credit doesn't mean he wasn't really hooping like that.
Starting point is 00:12:34 I could be wrong. I could be wrong. And I'm a big, LeBron's a point guard guy. So I think LeBron's the best point guard the last 20 years. Like, he's never played with another ball dominant player his entire career. The offense runs through him. He averages seven and a half assists a game for his career. Like, he is the point guard.
Starting point is 00:12:49 So I think he's the best point guard. And he plays pretty much the same way as Magic did. I don't know why Magic. Everyone agrees he's a point guard. LeBron's this big argument. Coley, trivia question, because this haunts me to the stage. Do you remember who the Hawks drafted instead of Chris Paul? Marvin Williams, of course.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Come on. Yeah. That's why I hate Chris Paul just because of what the Hawks did. Well, that's not his fault. I know it's not. But I still, every time I see him, I'm like, damn, should have been a hawk. I'm just sad on Chris Paul now because that foul that he had on Janus was just, it was egregious. Like, he tried to, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:21 He could have very easily hurt Janus if Janus wasn't just like a huge freak. and somehow after he dunked the ball on the alley-oop, he continued to levitate after he let go of the rim. There was a picture that was taken of him a split second after he dunked, and he was behind the backboard and like above the backboard. How does that even happen? How is it physically possible? But Chris Paul, my whole thing is like,
Starting point is 00:13:44 if you're going to be a wimp, you can't also be like the dirty, tough guy when you know that there's no chance of retribution. And if you are, then you're just like a complete heel. I don't think that's him, like, trying to win at all costs. I think that just goes in, like, Chris Paul is, he's just kind of a whip. He's like, he's a bully. He's a little bully that I think is afraid of getting anybody getting physical back to him.
Starting point is 00:14:07 He thinks he's above having somebody come at him in a physical nature because he's Chris Paul, but he's allowed to do it to other people. I think, I think that's the one thing where it's like, it's hard for me to watch basketball and the, in the style that's being played is the fucking flopping, though. like it's just like he's the king i cannot stand that it's just so it's just so man it's just fucking stop that shit you know what i mean like i don't know i got it's just disgusting it's disgusting you should love yon this thing because he's just all he's just brute force all 24-7 he don't be flopping it's been a while i didn't watch basketball at all this year actually was it a china thing yeah you know my roots is deep dog we haven't actually, I don't think we've addressed that on this show.
Starting point is 00:14:54 What do you think, Arian, about, like, if there's, if there's an island being built in the South China Sea, what country does it belong to? If there's an island being built in the South of China Sea. I'll back it up a little bit. Let's just say, let's go back to fishing rights. Let's just say that a flounder gets caught off the coast of Taiwan. Who owns that flounder? Is it Taiwan? Is it China?
Starting point is 00:15:19 Is it Laos? Well, nobody Okay, that's a good answer Yeah, okay I don't even believe in ownership like that Like we're all going to fucking die, bro That's going to own shit Yep, you're right
Starting point is 00:15:36 Yeah, no, the NBA playoffs The finals have been incredible Just like on there have been like three Signature plays from every single game so far And the ratings are way, way up Compared to last year Well, yeah, last year, but 2019, they're down like 4 million. They're down like 30% compared to it.
Starting point is 00:15:54 They're up from last year, though. Well, right, but last year was playing in a Mickey Mouse. They were literally playing in Disney World in a thing with no fans, and it wasn't real. What about two, what about three years ago? 2019, pre-pandemic, they're down like 25 to 30%. And that's without Nielsen didn't count Toronto because it's not in the United States. So it's actually down more than that. I'm actually okay with not counting Toronto TV.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Yeah, they all watch at the Toronto Tavern anyways. just one screen it's hard to track that down i don't understand the people who are so obsessed with viewership of like the only thing that goes up in viewership is the super bowl and that's just by proxy of there being more people alive everything else across the board goes down NBA finals have never come clear even game seven calves warriors didn't touch jordan numbers and it's just like yeah they're never probably going to do that again there isn't a michael jordan again well it's not just that but it's they had like five channels back then exactly yeah it's just like we'll never going to be able to replicate that again unless they do it like I don't know for some
Starting point is 00:16:53 reason like anytime Viacom has an award show they put it on every single channel they don't like they'll have the BET Awards on Nickelodeon like it's a very strange uh way they go about rigging ratings for their favor so unless the NBA starts doing that I think that well I think if you look at the way that they do right now do they still use the Nielsen boxes or do they they have a more advanced way. It's mostly that some they start to incorporate. Usually streaming comes out after. Like the day after you'll get the Nielsen ratings and then later it'll be like, oh,
Starting point is 00:17:25 we also have this many streaming. Do they take into account that one guy that's like streaming on Periscope? And then like when it goes to commercial break, he flips the phone around. It's him and his buddy on the couch and they're just like looking at the phone and every five seconds updating how many people are watching.
Starting point is 00:17:43 And then they turn back to the TV. They should incorporate that too. It's like a really flawed system anyway because like how many like really like unless there's like a special case, right? But like how many like weird ass niggas is sitting there watching the NBA finals or Super Bowl alone in their house? You know what I mean? Right. You're always like five, six of people. Like so it's like how they're not really that accurate.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Well, doesn't it? I'm not positive, but they account for that, right? Like it's, I think it's the household. So the number of people, I think they take it's usually two or three per box, right? I think it's four, but that's still Right, right. Like they're not like our bars, Nielsen, shit like that.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Like, I don't know. I think I read earlier, or I know I read earlier this year, NBA as a whole. So like all NBA accounts had the second most amount of video streams on Instagram, period. Like, I can't remember what was one. NBA was two versus every, not just sports, everyone who put videos on Instagram. So it's like, yeah, we can't keep talking about. of TV ratings, but it's 2021. Does that really even matter anymore if they are
Starting point is 00:18:50 the most social league, if they do have the widest reach out of any sport? I can't imagine going to a bar for the Super Bowl. That must be just an awful experience. Going to Buffalo Wild Wings, you don't even hear the commercials. I would argue
Starting point is 00:19:06 that the commercials have taken a spiral down since I was a child, or maybe I was just impressionable, but dim shits is not good anymore. No, yeah, the last like five years. been not good. But it also could be because we're just so, like, inundated with entertainment that, like, we're just not that we're insatiable.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Like, you just can't be impressed anymore. Yeah. I think the default reaction to any Super Bowl commercial, unless it's outstanding, is just people going, that sucked. What the fuck were they thinking about with that one and then getting mad about it for some reason? Like, people got mad at the Dolly Parton commercial where she sang five to nine because she was singing about, like, the gig economy or whatever.
Starting point is 00:19:45 and people are like fuck dolly part and it's like it's actually like created tens of thousands of jobs for some of the most poor people in the state of tennis you know that dolly part also like sends books to I think every first grader I want to say the imagination library you sign your kid up and you get a book every month in the mail yeah and she gave a million dollars
Starting point is 00:20:04 to help develop the moderna COVID vaccine yeah but but she her super bowl song was distasteful to 10% of the population so fuck her yeah we don't We don't- Doniparton is a goat, but we don't tolerate Dolly Parton slander.
Starting point is 00:20:19 You know, Don't, was it, um, Jolene and I will always love you? I think she wrote those two songs on the same day,
Starting point is 00:20:27 which is, if that's true, that's the most productive 24 hours anybody's ever had, ever. Just had a fucking sandwich in between two classics. That's pretty much.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I would, whatever I ate for dinner the night before, I, and like, however I slept, I would, I would do that every day for the rest of my life,
Starting point is 00:20:44 trying to replicate that day. She has like a, it's like a, I don't know, a theme part. What is it in, in, Hollywood. Yeah, Hollywood. Yeah, I took a, I took a shorthy there in college, man, because it's right, by Knoxville. We had a couple of the homies, we went up there and had a little, you know, couples date
Starting point is 00:20:59 in Dollywood. Yeah. How was that? I've never actually been. Except for his, his girlfriend was a fucking weirdo. So, like, we all split the cabin, but, like, I split a little bit more. And so, like, we got, so we got the master bedroom, right? It was, like, one little cabin. And so, like, she was pissed
Starting point is 00:21:15 off at him. Like, so she wasn't talking. So, like, the whole time, like, first two days, she was just like this. She just wouldn't talk. And I was, yeah, what's wrong with your shorty? She's like, she mad because y'all got the master. I'm like, my nigga. What?
Starting point is 00:21:25 Like, how fucking old are we, though? I had to move all my stuff down just so she had a good time. And then she was all happy. It was the fucking corny or shit. Yeah, I had a good time. Yeah, what was the master suite looked like at? Was that at Dollywood? Because I know they have a resort there.
Starting point is 00:21:38 I don't think it was that. I think it was just like an outskirts cabin. It's in Galenberg. so there's all sorts of I don't dolly explain I'm just I'm just I don't know how many times
Starting point is 00:21:47 I'm not explain I'm explaining Gatlinburg I've been three times oh well you asked I asked I asked Arian if he was familiar out of control this show
Starting point is 00:21:58 I've been to Dollywood many a time don't don't talk to me about Central Tennessee I know more about Central Tennessee Oh this guy Okay just wait till that comes out Wait till that comes out pal
Starting point is 00:22:08 Yeah he just he just ruined it He just lost The Gatlinburg community is going to be up in arms and you're about to get murdered on Twitter. You want to, you want to talk about, you want to talk about Murfreesboro? Also, it's Middle Tennessee. It's East, Middle and West. And yeah, no, it's, yeah, you just lost it. So it is actually in the center of the state. No, it's in East Tennessee. No, national there. Let's see where Dollywood is. I was also, I was also like, it's nine and ten when I went there.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Yeah. Oh, is it in Pigeon? Yeah. Yeah, it's super easy. Yeah. It's all, it's damn there, North Carolina. Yep. That's in the Smoky Mountains. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Congratulations on just learning that when you were talking about how knowledgeable you were about Dollywood and Miss Tennessee. Listen, when PFT's there, he's so focused on Dolly. Everything else is just, it's irrelevant. I go nuts about Dolly. And actually, okay, I'm looking at this right now. Here's, here's how I look at the state of Tennessee. Anything west of Bristol is Central Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Because Bristol is like, I get to Bristol. I'm like, I'm in Tennessee now. And then everything after that, you're either on the way to Knoxville. You're either pre-sundome or post-sundome. Sunsphere. Whatever. Remember you get murdered for that too? No, that's more.
Starting point is 00:23:29 Well, if you'd watch the Simpsons, you'd know it was the Sunsphere. You want to talk about, we could talk about Lynchburg, Tennessee. What do you know about Lynchburg? Jack Daniels. Dry County. Yeah. Yeah, sure it is. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And that was Lynchburg talk. Any other Tennessee cities we want? Oh, Memphis. Clarksville, the start of the KKK, wasn't it? Was it Clarksville? One of them. There have actually been three. One was Stone Mountain, Georgia.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Clarksville was one of them, though, yeah. Wasn't where Larry Berg was from, the other one? Oh, no, he's from Tara Haute, Indiana, right? Is it KKK like Abraham Lincoln? There are three different states that are claiming its owners? No, they started like three different ones. i think who was the first one k in each state like they started it it went away they redid it it went away they did it again he kept rebooting i think that's my understanding okay
Starting point is 00:24:24 but third time's the charm uh we can talk about the bass pro shop oh no no so pelaski tennessee yeah yeah yeah that was that was the origins so my bad clarksville but i mean shit i'm pretty sure i got some races over there so whatever at least one fact that was one of the times, though. So like, um, an unnamed coach, I don't want Tennessee Twitter after me, but like an unnamed coach told us when we first got that, it was like, don't stop in that city. And we was like, all, on your way. Because it's all, I think it's on the way from Knoxville and Nashville. And they was like, don't stop in that city. That's what they told us. And I was like, okay. I'm like, I was fresh out of California. So I was like,
Starting point is 00:25:02 I'm not definitely stopping in that city. They said it was like a sundown town or just like even when the sun's up? I was a, not at that, but I think, I think it was just like, there's you'll probably maybe have some problems there that's what they said so in general it's just a good idea to never stop when you're on a road trip like just just don't make any casual stops ever i learned that when i was driving back and forth from austin to austin to there's new orleans a lot of places in east texas that are just underrated terrible terrible places to pull off unannounced like you have to know somebody in that town i just i just got in the last night I took my kids to visit my mom in San Diego, I'm saying it was San Antonio.
Starting point is 00:25:44 And we stopped at this gas station slash McDonald's. And that was the first one I've seen that there was gas station slash McDonald's. And there was like really weird, dog. Like there was flies all in there and shit, but we was hungry, so we ate it. We were talking about the play pits the other day at McDonald's. I used to know where every play pit was in like the North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee, South Carolina area. I could tell you which exits had the McDonald's play pits in them. And people were like, wait, I feel like there aren't as many play pits anymore.
Starting point is 00:26:15 It's like, no, I just don't, I don't pay attention to it. I don't have that, like, that eye for play pits that I used to. But I think they're still out there, right? Do you know that in the continental United States, you are only 120 miles away from the farthest McDonald's at any one point? Billy, you talked about that last week. Did he? Not on this show. I don't remember it.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I didn't hear that fun fact, so I enjoyed it. Billy, did you drop that fun fact offline? No, oh, it was on lowering the bar, JK. Yeah, no, it was literally, like, there's one place in Nevada that is the farthest place on the continental United States. You can be from McDonald's, and it's actually, like, right by area 51. Oh, that's wild. So, like, if you're anywhere in the continental United States, like, there's a McDonald's, like, at least two hours away from you. I love the play place, a good play place where you could just hop in the ball pit, then hop out and get some fries, burger.
Starting point is 00:27:08 Got the slides. Underrated breakfast. McDonald's has underrated breakfast because you can actually request a real egg. You can get an egg on your burger there. Yeah, get the round egg. Request the round egg, that's a real egg. BFT. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Back up, Avery, you can get an egg on your burger at McDonald's? If you request it, they will give it to you. At any hour of the day. Yep. I'm going to order one right now on seamless. Let's see. Let's see if a single egg or like a. See on those apps, though, they sometimes make.
Starting point is 00:27:38 it to where you can't customize shit. It's bullshit. We'll see. Also, Big T, more like Big NARC. Big Tee just doing it out right now. First of all, it's promo for the show. If you live in Tennessee, there's a moment in the first 20 minutes of tomorrow's macrodosing pod,
Starting point is 00:27:54 you absolutely have to hear. PFT Comptor may not be welcome in the state ever again. Because I accidentally thought that Dollywood, which I've been a patron of, which I was telling you how I didn't realize on the map where it was, because I've, been there since I was 10 or 11.
Starting point is 00:28:09 You have no idea how upset people will be about that. More upset than when their patron, St. Connor, was caught wearing a Georgia Bulldog shirt. Yeah, when I was six and buying my own clothes. Are you telling them to stand back and stand by on VFT? Okay. First of all, it was stand down, which is very clearly. He didn't say stand down. He said stand down and stand by.
Starting point is 00:28:32 It's a quote. Go read it. Go read it. It's a quote. I'll read it. I could be wrong. But even though he said stand down. By.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah, I don't, listen, I don't want to get on the side of arguing for what other people said, because I don't know what he meant. But he did say the word stand out. He did, in fact, say stand back and stand by. That's what I thought. Okay, stand back. Get back. Go away.
Starting point is 00:28:53 Stand back. Are you telling Tennessee people to stand back or are you telling them to stand by? I'm telling them that they should listen to macro dosing. That's what I'm telling them. That's called promoing the show. Many tweets of y'all sent out for tomorrow's episode. Well, we're doing the show right now. show.
Starting point is 00:29:08 So, I'm going to be about to tweet out like, Connor spent the entire first half hour of macrodosing on his phone. It'll shock. Everyone's going to be mad at him. Listen, the Tennessee people out there know that I love them. I've got family in Tennessee. I used to go to Tennessee all the time when I was a kid. Love it.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Love Nashville. Love Memphis. I love the Bass Pro Shop Pyramid. Where's Memphis? Memphis is as far west in Tennessee as you can get. it shares a border it's on the mississippi river on the other side is west memphis which both of those are north of helena and west helena historically one of the most violent cities in the entire united states there you go where they had you want to talk about a sundown town helena and west helena
Starting point is 00:29:52 you weren't allowed on this no one was allowed on the streets after like 5 p.m for like five years like they had people that would like i think the uh national guard or maybe the state guard was rolling through there just arresting people who happened to be outside their houses Crazy place. I went down to Big West Helena. Okay, die too, yeah. Yeah, that's yep. MLK was shot there.
Starting point is 00:30:14 They have the fourth best barbecue in America in Memphis. Ooh, who's your one? Because I tweeted this out recently, and I want to see if you agree. Brooklyn. Of course, yes. You know that. You know how I feel about Brooklyn barbecue? You're right.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I would really piss everyone off if I said North Carolina. But North Carolina is my number three barbecue. Number one, and I don't know if everyone's had a chance to try it, is far and away, Hawaii. Yeah, no, no, I've heard about that because they have the invasive pigs that they barbecue up. I think it's a technicality you working off of them, but they're not wrong. They're making barbecue. Obviously, it's in a different fashion, but it tastes. And I'm sure it has something to do with the environment you're in.
Starting point is 00:31:04 you're already happy. However, it was some of the best food I've had, period, regardless of. When you cook the pig in the ground, like, that shit is wild, though. That shit is, like, you talk about meat fall off the bone, though? Mm-hmm. Yeah. They have, like, heavy, like, influence from, like, the Pacific, like, Filipino. Like, the Filipinos, they do, like, ba' boy, which is how they do it.
Starting point is 00:31:27 And it's, like, crazy. Yeah. Like, Korean barbecue. I feel like they're in the perfect place, like, they can borrow from. some of America they can borrow from Asia they kind of can fuse it all together they're definitely in the perfect place this is this fucking paradise there was one i had at uh it was at willie's big party that he threw not too long ago and he had he had these pigs that were strung up and like a just fire just going off in front of them and they weren't even in the ground they weren't
Starting point is 00:31:58 rotating it was just a pig that was stretched out tied up by its four legs and then just a fire that had been cooking it for like 12 hours. And it was some of the best barbecue I've ever had in my life. I think it was either Argentinian style or I don't know, it was somewhere in South, maybe Chilean style barbecue.
Starting point is 00:32:13 I had never had before. Incredible. Yeah. But I would say I have not had Hawaiian barbecue. I would love to. If anybody out there runs a Hawaiian barbecue joint, let me know. I love Texas barbecue.
Starting point is 00:32:25 I think that's my number one. And then number two, I would go either North Carolina barbecue, which is going to piss a lot of people off, or I would go, Kansas City barbecue. Kansas City is my two, all because of that time. George Brett brought us barbecue.
Starting point is 00:32:40 That was some of the best. Like that was candy, just happened to be meat. I would also, I would put, like, Cajun, Louisiana barbecue. It's similar to Texas. So I'm kind of lumping that in together a little bit. That's probably unfair. People are going to get mad at me for that. But then I would go, I would probably go Memphis right after that.
Starting point is 00:33:00 You should say Tennessee. Yeah, Tennessee barbecue. Memphis-style dry rubs, though. I'm a big fan of those. Because Nashville has some spots, though. Oh, my God. Tennessee is probably my number one barbecue state. It's a good state for barbecue.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Actually, it reminded me we should, we need to find an official macrodosing athlete for the name and likeness thing that we can sponsor. I was thinking maybe somebody, maybe a player at Tennessee that embodies the spirit of Arian Foster the most. Like, who hates their coach the most at the University of Tennessee? And I feel like that's our guy. Can you try to identify that player, Arian?
Starting point is 00:33:46 Well, you know who it was, who's now gone. I don't hate my coach, man. But it would have been Joanne Jennings who got kicked off the team by interim Brady Hoke for going on Instagram live and talking shit about how bad Butch Jones and all the coaches were before the last game of the season it was after Butch had been fired and Brady Hoke who was the interim coach for a week kicked him off
Starting point is 00:34:07 the team and then Jeremy Pruitt got there and he was like yeah we really need that guy he's back. You should not be allowed kick a kid off the team for that. See that's the type of stupid shit man. Just dumb. Yeah and he wasn't even the real coach. Just dumb. You're not, you can't play anymore because you have opinions.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Fuck out of here. Let's fire him. I'm down. Yeah, maybe not the player that hates his coach knows maybe the player that just a rebel yeah that hates the whole damn system yeah yeah yeah I'm down yeah yeah yeah if you if you're a collegiate athlete preferably black that doesn't fuck with the NCAA doesn't fuck with the whole system of exploitation in general highlight us we got some dollars for you family DM us on Instagram also follow us on Instagram yeah I tell you what Madeline you you're a huge University of Tennessee fan so you I want you to be in charge of this effort
Starting point is 00:34:59 because I feel like you know the most about the program and about the players and the personalities there. I'm a diehard. Yeah, so I want you to lead up this effort for us, can we? Cool. Yeah, if you, do they have to go, so they have to have gone to Tennessee, preferably black. They're at Tennessee now.
Starting point is 00:35:14 At Tennessee. Well, yeah. And play football. Communist. Communist. Not just have to play football. Okay, yeah. Prefer football, but like, find me, find me a black tennis player.
Starting point is 00:35:26 That's a rebel. That's fire. Okay. I can make them. happen. We'll call them, yeah, the Aryan Foster macrodosing athlete. Yeah, DM us. Or I'll look through. Yeah, I think we're probably going to have to do some legwork because the chances of that person listening to macrodosing.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Well, currently following the accounts on social might be low. I don't know. I don't want to casting aspersions out there. But we might have to do some digging on this one. Yeah. DM or, okay, I'll look through the Barcelona athletes and I'll find some. And then also if we can get any through our listeners. No, just like look up information about University Tennessee athletes in general. Like you might. Oh, so they might not even be a Barstow athlete yet? Yeah, you might have to go ahead and find this person.
Starting point is 00:36:06 And find them. Oh, I can do that. I can make that happen. Yeah, you might need to talk to the, what's the Tennessee college paper? Wait, Madeline, you know the answer to this one. Yeah, it's the Daily Orange. Yeah, the Daily Orange. So she missed a contract, the Daily Orange.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Actually, we should have a wheelhouse and just name it Foster's home for the Athletes. That's good, Billy. You guys probably never knew that show. Yeah, you guys don't know what to talk about. I do. I do. Wait, do you guys know what we're talking about? You might be, too.
Starting point is 00:36:36 Yeah, I never watched Cartoon Network, but I know. Well, there used to be a cartoon network show called Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends. And it was a bunch of, like, little creatures that were this little kids' imaginary friends. Well, no, they were imaginary friends of kids who had grown up, right? And they all went there because they didn't have them. a kid anymore possibly i'm going to be real i don't remember that part but like it was a bunch of creatures and the little imaginary friends and we can make them our ncdible athlete we can skirt around some copyright laws with some with some i feel like cartoon dark's chill about that kind of stuff
Starting point is 00:37:13 i don't know they ain't they ain't going i wish they would yeah they won't they don't have it in them all right you guys want to get in some yellow journalism chill i did want to say before we do Ken Jack listened to our episode last week Friend of the Friend at the office Friend of the show He said there was a mass hysteria event That he wanted us to share
Starting point is 00:37:35 I guess you can say this is mass hysteria Have you ever heard of Polybius No Crazy so apparently there's This arcade game That everybody remembers it existing But it doesn't exist Oh the Mandela Effect
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yes Yeah basically it's a Mandela Effect an experiment that happened in Portland, Oregon in 1981, where the legend describes it as the game was a government-run crowdsourced psychology experiment. Yeah, I got it up right here. Okay. Gameplay supposedly produced intense, psychoactive, and addictive effects in the player. Wait, so what do you mean it wasn't real?
Starting point is 00:38:14 So it existed, but it wasn't a real thing. Yeah, so it says players supposedly suffered from a series of unpleasant side effects, including amnesia, insomnia, night terrors, and hallucinations. Everyone says basically one day the government must have pulled all the machines at once because they were all gone and nobody ever remembered actually playing the game. That's so cool. Listen, I'm the first person that'll talk shit about the government when they do some fucked up stuff. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Like, who's really harmed by that? They just picked one random town, stocked their arcades with probably, it was probably the chief. deepest game to encourage people to try to play it. And then one day, just in the dead of the night, when installed all the video games back, and they're like, what, what are you talking about? That came to difference. That's hilarious. So basically.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Gaslighting everybody with a video game. Snopes, if you trust Snopes says that it's not true. But basically, it may be an urban legend, uh, centering around two professional video game players who are trying to break records around that time. So like one guy collapsed after trying to play this game, Tempest or Asteroids, for 28 hours to break a world record. And basically a couple guys went down trying to like break this record. And they're like, oh, like it totally wasn't playing video games for 28 hours. It was definitely like a government sciop to like destroy, like cause these guys to get messed up.
Starting point is 00:39:45 But hey. I think they could do that honestly with the San Diego, Chargers. They could just be like that team never existed. And everybody would be like, yeah, I guess I guess I must have just drink the whole thing. It was so funny. Because San Diego versus Oakland was a big, it's a big rivalry, right? And so, and I was in high school when they came out with this article in the paper that said, it has nothing to what you said, but just reminded me. I said, there was more arrests in the stands than there was Russian yards. I like that.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Philly probably had a couple of games like that back in the day when they had like Westbrook and were just throwing, like they wouldn't ever run them. They would just throw like 10, 12 passes to them every game. Probably I guess my expectation for Philly fans, especially at the old vet stadium, would probably be like, if you weren't breaking three digits, it was a bad day. It was an off day. Yes, unfortunate. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:43 So I like this plebeous thing. I'm going to do some more research into that. And government, if you're listening, I know you are, or at least your algorithm. or do something like that. If you didn't actually do it, Plibeus, just like roll into a town and install like a brand new game and then just fuck with them, just remove it all.
Starting point is 00:40:59 We need to do an episode of Mandela effect. Berenstein Bears. Yeah. It's funny because like stuff like that, we think it's like, oh, like that's like a classic. Like everyone knows that. But then like it's just that we're into this stuff. Like not many people.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Yeah, we're extremely online. That's all it is. Because like there's the one. What's the, Shazam. Shazam. Yeah. That I think is just people of bad men.
Starting point is 00:41:23 I don't think that's Mandela effect. I think people are just stupid. I think that's the entire Mandela effect. It's just bad memories. Well, the thing is people stopped. The original part of the Mandela effect was that Mandela died in prison, apparently. But since Mandela actually died and his, in the movie Invictus came out, like, it's everyone's, they've restored, like, Mandela's, like, memory. that everyone thought he'd died at prison.
Starting point is 00:41:51 What did people think Shazam is? They basically thought it was Kazam, but with Sinbad instead of Shaq. Which I don't remember. I got, I got that one, I remember Shaq vividly. Oh, yeah. Oh, you're talking about the movie.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Yeah, yeah. You're talking about the app. No, no, no, no. People, people like our, like me, PFT and Aryan's age, like for some reason have this memory of Sinbad, being in a movie called Shazam but like being a genie like there was a movie that had the same name
Starting point is 00:42:26 kind of and another famous black 90s human being I think they just have terrible memories I think that's all that is I think I think that Sinbad implanted that memory into everybody just that more people will be talking about Sinbad people don't give Sinbad enough credit
Starting point is 00:42:42 for how huge of a star he was in the mid-90s he was like the biggest comedian on earth for a span of like two years that's a stretch one of him one of them at the time like he was sinbad i mean he just went by sinbad he was yeah he was the fuck bad who has one name is like uber famous yeah who do you think was bigger him or arcinia arcinio that's not a yeah arsonio but arsinio kind of went away like they both did but sinbad i feel like took over sinbad was big if i remember like 93 to 97 somewhere in that time frame i feel like
Starting point is 00:43:18 Arsenio was big 89 to 93. That could be true. Might have handed the baton off to him. Yeah. All right. Well, that was Sinbad talk. Tune in next week.
Starting point is 00:43:30 We'll have another Sinbad fun fact. Actually, Big T, can you write that down? Sinbad fun fact? I want you to be in charge of that one. I want you to do the Sinbad fun fact of the week. Show is so ridiculous. Yeah, that's kind of the premise. Since we were talking about arcade games and maybe only PFT cares,
Starting point is 00:43:52 they are releasing the Simpsons arcade game to be purchased for your home. Oh, the way you like on a, Bart on a skateboard, right? Oh, yeah. Bart, Homer. You're trying to get Maggie back from Smithers and Burns. Very sexist. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Well, speaking of yellow people, origin for the world yellow journalism comes from, oh, no, the yellow kid. Yeah. Okay. I was very nervous I was thinking of yellow cartoons It was there
Starting point is 00:44:24 So no so actually the origin for the word yellow news When you hear Billy just start a sentence With that phrase I think everybody was like We're all looking at Avery like Okay yeah I get ready to No well the Simpsons are a cartoon of yellow people Like true
Starting point is 00:44:43 Taggly and that's sort of the same origin of the term terminology yellow news so uh you know if we want to get into that actually i got a quick question for arian because i'm interested to know what your perspective on this with the simpsons i grew up watching the simpsons and um it never once occurred to me that people would think that the simpsons are white people when you were watching it was it like you just you just knew that they were white yeah what about you colic you just nodded your head i mean think about it They had black characters. They had Indian characters.
Starting point is 00:45:21 They had all types of people, but the only people that weren't of ethnic origins was white. Yeah, it was white. I took them to always be white people. However, I do think the fact that they were yellow instead of white made other people check out the show with, like, less hesitancy. Maybe they just didn't have any white people on the show. He said cowabunga. it's white he said eat my shorts
Starting point is 00:45:51 like it was very clearly a white guy yeah all right anyway sorry but but but but Marge Marge probably had a little cakes on her and she had like she had some like thick hair so yeah
Starting point is 00:46:03 I think they try to it's either appropriation or it was appreciation yeah I mean that's a good point with Marge's hair because like that was not that was decidedly not white people hair yeah right
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Starting point is 00:47:59 listeners at helix sleep dot com slash dose that's helix sleep dot com slash dose for up to 200 dollars off and get two free pillows um really sorry to interrupt you no worries so yellow journalism was a term that came to be coined at the end of the 1800s so it started as basically a new kind of news was originating especially in uh kansas city missouri and it was basically about a competition between two men um joseph politzer and william randolph Gulf Hearst. And Pulitzer is also the... Pulitzer. Pulitzer.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Yeah. Pulitzer. Politzer. Pulitzer. Like the prize. Mad dogs. Like the prize. Yes. But isn't it crazy that the... This is... There's also another prize. Alfred Noble, you know, the Nobel, you know, the Nobel. He invented...
Starting point is 00:48:55 Heard of it. Yeah. I thought he was kidding. I thought he was... I thought he was doing a bit. I was going to say, oh, that was a good joke, Billy. I thought he was too. And then I kept watching. I was waiting to see if he was going to laugh. Because I was like, oh, that was a good one. He's consistent. They got these things going up.
Starting point is 00:49:12 They're called the Olympics. They're new. We're trying them out. Anyway, Alfred Noble invented dynamite and Pulitzer invented. I've always said it that way. Let him just go. I just let him go. Who the hell do you think I'm talking about the Pulitzer Prize with?
Starting point is 00:49:28 That's fair. The Pulitzer. Just keep going. Do it. Anyway, he invented yellow journalism with a little help of William Randolph. Dolf Hearst. Basically, they were to tabloidy newspapers who you could relate a lot to the New York Post nowadays, where they put out a lot of stories. You know, they wrote newspaper articles not for the people who read the New York Times, but for the working man who went to Coney Island on the
Starting point is 00:49:58 weekends and relaxed with his family. Like it was a very certain demographic that they targeted their news towards. And it wasn't about people who. cared about the stock market, cared about international politics as a whole, but people who wanted to read about crime in their neighborhood, like all sorts of very, you know, sensationalized topics. Billy, it's interesting that you bring up the New York Post and sensationalized topics because I saw a blog that you wrote earlier today that was sourced from a New York Times headline about the Olympics installing sex-proof beds so that the competitive
Starting point is 00:50:37 over there couldn't fuck on the beds it turns out that that was a sensationalized headline by the New York Post that isn't true there's just cheap beds that they bought for the Olympic Village in no way are they supposed to be sex proof but somebody reported that and the New York Times
Starting point is 00:50:53 or New York Post picked it up and then Billy ended up blogging it out no I picked it up from a tweet in New York Post a tweet from my mixtapes oh my mix tapes I'm sorry so my mixtapes is that Pulitzer or is that Nobel?
Starting point is 00:51:10 Oh, boy. Anyway, these two newspapers had these comic books in them that featured these yellow kids. And they were basically, it was called Hogan's Alley. And it was basically illustrations of street kids in New York City in a fictional place
Starting point is 00:51:32 that were committing several crimes and sort of were a relatable character a little more, you know, a poorer version of Bart Simpson, if you will, growing up in one of the, basically, like, ghettos of New York City of that time. So there's a bunch of illustrations of, you know, it's basically, we're supposed to be very comical. Like, there was one, the great football match down in Casey's Alley, which is just a picture of a bunch of, like, back then they used to do a lot of Irish caricatures of, like, Irish kids. think of like the mad magazine kid like they all kind of look like that so this guy was like the yellow kid who was supposed to be one of these Irish caricatures of just a random street kid you see running around New York City at that time so because of these comic books
Starting point is 00:52:23 these newspapers and then there was actually a fight where the original cartoonist got sent to the other newspaper after a bidding war for you know a journalist at one company. Originally, it was with Pulitzer's New York World, and then the cartoonist was then basically head hunted by Randolph Hearst's New York Journal. So Hogan's Alley's was a cartoon, and basically since both these papers basically got these cartoons featuring yellow kids, these kids who were depicted as yellow, they then got the name, Yellow Kid Journalism, which then turned into Yellow Journalism. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:53:07 So. All right. Now, what's the difference? What's the difference between yellow journalism and muck raking? I think, you know, just not too sure. Okay. Because muck raking, that's, Teddy Roosevelt, I think, came up with the term muck raker, right?
Starting point is 00:53:24 Sounds right. Where he would refer to journalists that were like digging through the muck, like, raking through all the shit on the street, trying to find something sensational that they could write about. A lot of times I was like trying to find scandals, occasionally where there weren't scandals and trying to sell papers that way. But I think it incorporates some of the same things about yellow journalism. Like you said, Billy, on your like four things that embody yellow journalism. Yeah. Actually, this comes from Frank Luther Mott.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Thank you for attributing that. I did attribute it. The lavish use of pictures or imaginary drawings, the use of faked interviews, misleading headlines, pseudoscience, and a parade of false learning from so-called experts. experts, an emphasis on full-color Sunday supplements, usually with comic strips, and dramatic sympathy with the underdog against the system. So those are the four, or I guess it says five characteristics, but there's only four there. I don't know if Billy accidentally delete one of them, but those are the four that you highlighted.
Starting point is 00:54:23 I think that muck-raking probably incorporates a lot of those. It's interesting. But wouldn't, but wouldn't, wouldn't muck-wracking be like the antithesis of yellow journalism? Because muck-racking is like, uh, it was, it was. was made to, like, expose bad, um, uh, journalism or corrupt, uh, political or economic things. Like, it was kind of made to like, it was like an expose. Like, so for, for my, I could be wrong. I think that, uh, a muckraker is like an investigative journalist who lacks scruples, you know, who like might, might go too far and fake some things in order
Starting point is 00:55:00 to get their, their expose out. Right. But I think even what, like, Arii's trying to get at it's almost like intent like yeah the the muckraker might try and do it to it's almost like punching up first punching down muckraking is more like erin said exposing something so like more investigative where um yellow journalism is more like tabloid and yeah sensationalist yeah sensationalizing right i think it's fair but it's interesting that you brought up um like hurst and who's the other guy uh Pulitzer Pulitzer, yeah. It's interesting that you brought those guys up because to me, that's, when you have like the two giant media conglomerates that are rivals against each other, they're just pulling out all the stops to increase circulation because they need to crush the other guy. It's like a zero-sum game where it's like one audience is going, they're going to read the news. Are you going to read from us? You're going to read from them. Well, if you're reading from them, how do we take that audience away? Well, there's some very easy things that we can do. First of all, we can use fear. And fear is the thing. I think fear is the second best driver in terms of how people make financial decisions, whether it be like what to buy or like lifetime decisions. I would say fear is number two. The only one that's a stronger key, I think would be pain.
Starting point is 00:56:18 If they're actually like, I'll put it to you this way. If I look at you, Big T, and I say, I'm going to fucking hit you with this hammer. And there's a hammer stand right next to you. And the hammer costs $2, you're probably going to immediately. buy that hammer, right? Are you saying that's pain or fear? Fear. I'm saying like, I'm about to hit you with this hammer.
Starting point is 00:56:39 Fear of pain. But it's fear. Okay. You're probably going to buy that hammer. Now, if I. Is the non-existent. Yeah. If I then hit you in the head with the hammer and you're bleeding out your mouth and your
Starting point is 00:56:50 teeth are all strewn about. And then Madeline's like, uh, turns out that I have a degree in, uh, dental high, I'm a dental hygienist and I'll charge you $500 right now to replace your teeth. You're going to give her $500. dollars right now to replace your teeth, right? Sure. Fix the immediate pain. So if, but if you're in fear of something, okay, I'll put it this what?
Starting point is 00:57:11 If I were to be like, hey, Big T, one of these days you never know, somebody might hit you in the head with a hammer. Would you buy a hammer immediately for that? Maybe a helmet, but sure. Yeah, but maybe you wouldn't, you wouldn't feel like you had to buy a hammer to protect yourself if you're like, hey, maybe someday it'll happen. Right. But if I've got one right there, the more fear that I make you feel.
Starting point is 00:57:32 the more likely you are to make a purchase that you might not otherwise. Yes. Unless you're like looking forward and you're like, oh, I'm going to be, you know, doing real estate speculation or whatever. Most people spend their money when they have to, whether it be for fear or for pain. And I feel like that's what a lot of journalism comes down to. It's like people will buy your product. People pay attention to you if you can make them scared.
Starting point is 00:57:53 And they learn, people learn that very early on when it came to like publishing. It's like if you can keep people in fear, you will make a pretty penny. they were well yeah you know they're good at that oh go ahead no well i was i was going to yell about william randolph hurst again as i've been one to do he he learned these yellow journalism tactics and that's still why marijuana is illegal to this day that's still why there have been millions of black people brown people who've been incarcerated over the last century because of yellow journalism because he saw what sensationalizing things that don't even necessarily exist can do to drive fear throughout people and get laws changed just as simple as that so it's
Starting point is 00:58:39 always been fuck william randolph first i should have realized he was tied to yellow journalism like the beginnings of it i didn't until i was looking it up earlier today and it just infuriated me even more you're absolutely correct and you know back then these papers only cost one cost they both cost about two pennies at one point but then hurst cut his costs and made his paper one penny so just to be the most easy access for uh readers and i think the new york times was about 15 cents at that time so pulitzer's a real fucking idiot if you didn't also think to drop it down to a penny you can't get lower than a penny it's like at some point somebody was going to do it and price the other guy out they do a free pay like they have free pay like they have free
Starting point is 00:59:27 papers sold to this day he could have if he was a real man uh pu leitzer uh whatever he could have he could have dropped the free the the boston phoenix of its time yeah i mean uh so actually fun fact that cartoon hogan's alley where they get the name uh the yellow kid yellow journalism uh the fbi has a fake street called hogan's alley where they train their operatives so this place is like they'll do like fake bank robberies, fake hold-ups as training for their officers. And like, they're just like role-playing GTA all day. This random location called Hogan's Alley. So maybe, you know, maybe they're just hiding in a plain sight
Starting point is 01:00:15 by totally referencing the origin of yellow journalism in the FBI headquarters. I like it. But yeah. So basically, everyone gets sort of hears about yellow journalism when it comes to, the topic of the Spanish-American War and you know this is like a huge AP topic that they put in like in the past 20 years at least I learned about it when I took a push but so like the peak of yellow journalism came when the drumming up before the war actually happens there's a situation in Cuba where you had American American tourists in Cuba you had Cuban nationalist guerrilla groups fighting the, fighting against the, the Spanish who were stationed in Cuba. There was a lot of outcry saying that, one, the Spanish were being extremely hard on American tourists because they thought that the American tourists were sending messages to the nationalist rebels in Cuba. There was sort of, there may have been evidence that the U.S. were giving aid.
Starting point is 01:01:27 to the Cuban guerrillas in order to get this of European power out of the Western hemisphere and their sphere of influence. So there was basically this sort of semi-cold war with U.S.-backed rebels and Spain. So what then happened was as soon as everyone thought that, you know, Spain, the U.S. were getting along better. You know, there was a USS Maine as a show of power,
Starting point is 01:01:57 which was this big warship stationed in Havana Harbor, you know, there was a Spanish warship coming to New York City, all the signs of like goodwill and like making, you know, breaking bread. Is that a sign of goodwill? Like just we're each going to send our biggest battleships to your main harbors? Yeah, but it was described as there was like committees to like talk amongst generals about and share information. Here's a sign of goodwill.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Here's this giant horse. I wanted to give you I know you love horses Well this one's pretty big Here you go Anyway For unbeknownst reasons The USS Maine exploded
Starting point is 01:02:37 And this is where It's sort of all Went crazy Now there were stories Going up to the war About basically American tourists Getting strip search at ports
Starting point is 01:02:49 By Spanish individuals That still happens By the way My friend Taylor They thought he had weed on him he was getting back on a cruise ship they strips it yeah he had to lift his sack up and everything jesus i'm just saying like you know to this very day we're still embroiled in this turmoil well if your friend had been put as a uh picture so like what randolph hers was he put a picture
Starting point is 01:03:14 of a naked woman getting strip searched by the spanish uh spaniers search women on american steamers and it was a very uh reactionary image that uh was on the cover of their paper of started drumming up U.S., like getting, basically getting Americans mad because they thought that, like, American women were being exploited by the Spanish. That's an age-old tactic, by the way, is like, show a group of foreigners or a group of people who are not the white race and then put like a naked white woman that's in distress. And then everyone's like, no, no. And you can basically get everybody. That's, again, taps into people's fear. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:53 It's like, how dare they do this? I was just going to say that before you started after you said that PFT is like I will argue there may be a handful of wars the U.S. has been in that there hasn't been some kind of propaganda propagated by the U.S. government in order to okay. It's the zeitgeist, the social currency of the current day to say, yeah, let's do this. Let's go to war. I mean, the most recent, we just got out of Iraq, right? We're just still there, but we're still trying to get out of Iraq. And that was all. propaganda, facilitated by George Bush and his administration. It's literally the playbook of colonial, colonial, uh, colonial, uh, colonial, imperialist America. Colonialism. That's what they do. It's what we do. We also just got out of, I think, officially Afghanistan. Yeah. Okay. That's what it is. After 18 years and then, yeah, yeah, my bad. Iraq, we're always doing this thing where it's like, we're getting out. And then we're like, you know what? We kind of like it here. Right. It's kind of, it's kind of,
Starting point is 01:04:54 It's got its moments. You like it once you try. And then we send, like, people back for a couple more years. It's like a never-ending cycle because then you can debate who's being soft on terrorism. And then you can debate, okay, who cares about the troops more? And then it's just always going back and forth, back and forth. Yeah. I mean, I would argue you can't have mass scale wars without this propaganda.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Have you ever heard of the – I forget which economists put forth this theory. Maybe it's Friedman or something. I probably just said Friedman because I think he's the only economist that I know off the top of that. But it's called the McDonald's theory where no two countries with McDonald's have ever fought a war against each other. I don't know if it's still true. It might not be true anymore. It was true at least 15 years ago. And it doesn't mean my professor was trying to teach it to me like in the context if it means more about just like developing countries that have economies, they're so intertwined.
Starting point is 01:05:52 by the money that's spent that they act more rationally where they won't go to war over like, you know, some emotional type shit with somebody else because they know that they have like their own economies to look after. And to me, I was always just like, no, it just makes everybody fat. And so we're too, we don't want to fight. We got, we have fries that we can just walk to and pay 99 cents and get a full thing.
Starting point is 01:06:17 Why am I going to go to war? Fuck that. Germany definitely has McDonald's. I don't think that they did. Oh, so it's like at the time of the war? Yeah, if they have a McDonald's. I think Ukraine in Russia might have broke that in Crimea. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Well, did they go to war? Was that just Russia being like, I want, Russia just wanted all their McDonald's is. Or maybe Georgia. McDonald's eye. They probably had some of those like weird menu shit that, like you go over to England. You see what they have at their McDonald's. Putin was like, wow, they've got, they've got bear burgers. over there.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Does Georgia the country have McDonald's? They might because I think that was the actual war. Who doesn't have a McDonald's in this day and age? North Korea. That's what we should do. We should build one in North Korea and then we'll never have to go to war. Disarm them, yeah. Do we just solve world peace on this podcast?
Starting point is 01:07:14 Yes. McDonald's is the key to world peace. Well, you got to think about it. The way to get McDonald's in those countries is like, you know, opening to all sorts of I mean think about it anyway I think they're one yeah anyway so then back to the US thing we have to build on Mars is a McDonald's just to make sure we don't fuck that up immediately oh wow looks looks like I was right it was Friedman how about that your boy knows his economist he's like the famous like most famous economist yeah Thomas Friedman
Starting point is 01:07:46 it's called the golden arches theory of conflict prevention two countries of the McDonald's franchises have ever gone to war with each other. People in McDonald's countries, he said, don't like to fight wars. They like to wait in line for burgers. And countries with middle classes large enough to sustain a McDonald's have reached a level of prosperity and global integration that makes warmongering risky and unpalpable to its people. So there are some, yeah, you can look through history and be like, okay, some of the former Yugoslavian states, I guess, had McDonald's in them technically.
Starting point is 01:08:21 and they were in conflicts with each other. But you know what? I'm just going to pretend like it's still true because it just sounds cool. You're not a Keynes guy? Raising Keynes. John Maynard Keynes. He's an economist.
Starting point is 01:08:35 Oh, no. I thought you were going to say a raising canes. I was going to say, like, if you have Raising Cains in various countries, make you more likely to go to war. This is Big T's worst take, by the way. He thinks that Zaxby's is better than raising. Oh, I went in. I think Zaxby's is better than.
Starting point is 01:08:51 and everything. I went back to Nashville over July 4th, and I tried Zaxby's chicken sandwich, and y'all know I'm the biggest Chick-fil-A guy that there is. Saxby's chicken sandwich was better. I'm with you with the Zaxby's better than raising Keynes. I fight with people in Texas all the time we're about that. The chicken isn't even comparable. It's just the sauce. It's like different. Like Zaxby's is like Boston Market at its A game. Like it has everything. It's more like sit down dinner in my eyes. Caines is more fast foot. I don't think they're comparable is what I'm saying. Oh, I see. No, they are.
Starting point is 01:09:21 But, I mean, same menu. Xaxby's is a rip-off. Cains only has one thing. No, it's not, bro. It's exactly the obvious. No, that's not true. You can get more than one, like, you can get different types of, can't you get like a whole bird in Zaxby's?
Starting point is 01:09:36 No, Zach's like chicken. Chicken fingers and chicken sandwiches. They have like salad. I'm wrong, man. Zaxby's is like when you ask for raising Keynes and that's what your mom tells you have at home. No, that's garbage. You're making an, you're making an emotional decision.
Starting point is 01:09:49 Garbage. No, their sauce is garbage. No, Zaxby's sauce is not garbage. Raising cane sauce is 10 times better. Go to any store and see if they sell Raisin cane sauce. They don't sell it separately. They sell Zaksby sauce separately.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Yeah, exactly why. Because it's better. No. It's higher quality. Yeah, they say Zax sauce. It's very similar and they sell it like a... But the sauce is the only thing that's like comparable. Like they're both really good.
Starting point is 01:10:19 The chicken... Kane sauce is Thousand Island dressing, though. The chicken, Zaxbyes, blows them out of the water. No way, dude. No way. It was like, I went to Zaxby's last. Mute Avery. This is left.
Starting point is 01:10:31 I went to Zaxby's in Florida, and it was garbage. Literally garbage. That's Florida, though. That's Florida, though. That's Florida. What's the difference? It should be good. It should be good everywhere you go.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Every time I've been to Raising Cains, it's good. You ever seen that meme where Bugs Bunny is cutting off Florida? I'm using why. I'm just astounded by this conversation. I think I finally... The fact that this all came from Keynesian economics. I think I finally get the McDonald's theory now. It's because like we're sitting here like fucking pissed off at each other because
Starting point is 01:11:02 you're giving too much respect to the Raising Cain sauce. And if you go down, if you go into fucking food line down the street, you're not going to see Raising Cain sauce. And you know that you can get the Zaxby's stuff for like $5.99. And they got the 20 ounce bottle too, not just a 16 ounce. And like we're having this conversation. You think you can go over to like, you think you walk into Afghanistan and anyone over there is like discussing this type of shit? No, they're talking about like the different countries that have financed their neighbors that bombed their grandchildren or grandparents.
Starting point is 01:11:33 And like how we're going to like who I can align myself with in my mountains so that my family will be protected for the next 10 years. And like if you care about dumb shit like this, that's the key to survival. Agree? Oh, it's a luxury. Yes. Yes, absolutely. Do you ever order that burger with that egg on it or no? No, it wasn't an option on seamless. That's bullshit.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I could try to call McDonald's and ask them. I don't think they're used to getting it. I can try an Uber Eats? Yeah, can you try Uber Eats? They'll do. Does McDonald's take call in orders? Couldn't possibly. I don't think they ever once have in the history of McDonald's.
Starting point is 01:12:12 I don't even think they have a phone. That's why they have. No. That's why they're doing so well. they don't have to pay that phone bill. Madeline, just order a burger. And if it doesn't let you do it, it should be like a comment section in the blog. Just write one an egg on it.
Starting point is 01:12:25 A lot of the time they disable that, though. They disable that comments. Because I'd be putting, like, put extra cheese or something on it. And, like, people don't like that shit. I'll be telling them I'll pay for it. But you'll give me the option. I don't care if they don't like meat. All of these chicken places should just thank their lucky stars.
Starting point is 01:12:40 McDonald's has and brought back the chicken selects in some time. I was discussing this today. one of my favorite memories ever my mom never seen you more hype yeah Ebo a guy that works here is like man McDonald's just needs to quit dicking around bring back the chicken selects and I was like one of my favorite memories as a kid my mom worked in a hospital and she'd work like 11 a.m. to 11 p.m. So like my dad and I would go eat dinner with her and there was a McDonald's there and that chicken selects. I think it's one of my if they brought them back I'd never go anywhere else. You can't order it with an egg on Uber Eats.
Starting point is 01:13:15 even let you like type anything in for special. I think it's just so sweet that Big T's dad would take him to go visit his mom at the hospital and she was probably so excited to see her son, you know, she's in the middle of a long shift and then her son is just like heads down in a plate of chicken that was the favorite part of his, that's what you remember about visiting my mom. It's a food associated with the positive memories of going to visit my mom at work. Your mom's like I had a really tough day. There were three patients that didn't make it. But he's like, do you have the buffalo sauce? You didn't give me the fucking buffalo sauce, dad.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Not much has changed in the 15 years since either. Mrs. Big T, shout out. I didn't know that you were a first responder slash lifesaver. She's a nurse. Superhero. Superhero. She goes to work. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:14:01 Whoa. She does her job. She's a triage nurse now. Oh, yeah. That sounds like a walk in the park. Yeah. Well, she did. Well, she did work in the hospital.
Starting point is 01:14:14 She was doing some of the job. slap you on behalf of your mom right now you're always talking about his own mom you keep it her humble she goes to work right she she goes to work yeah she yeah someone someone tweeted me today like asking me what bowl i was smoking out of for my last dozen appearance and then i were i told them and then they were like how does one get a job where they just sit on a trivia show and smoke weed and big tea's like yeah my mom me and i do the same thing pretty much we just get away yeah Okay, so listen, your mom, yeah, she just punches the clock. You know, anyone can do what she does.
Starting point is 01:14:50 She's great. She's not capable of doing the things Big D does at work. Like, oh, here's your most recent blog. We don't talk enough about the NCAA-06 game mode where your girlfriend got hotter as you played better. Number one blog on the site right now. Number one on the website. So you're welcome. You could probably, yeah, your mom could never write a blog like that.
Starting point is 01:15:10 I don't think she could. She's not funny. well uh 260 u.s soldiers died on the USS main oh you might need to do an episode on like a therapy session for big tea and why he bang on his mom so much well i in the context of this show she came on and got a little too big for her britches so she needs to be brought down a couple notches but just in general there's way more than that i also want to say i want to apologize
Starting point is 01:15:37 to mrs she listens right do not no do not apologize to her no i want to apologize because i for a lot on the last week's episode. And I told her, I was like, I cuss more than anybody you know. And she was like, oh, well, it was different when a girl did it. I was like, that's the most sexist thing I've ever heard in my life. No, I, I said penis and dick a lot. And I want to. That's not swearing.
Starting point is 01:15:57 They said it was a mine. Damn, hell, ass. But, Cole, you're a guy, so it's fine. No, it was a Simpsons reference, but I appreciate you, allowed you to swear. It was also just my generic profanity. Yeah. It's allowed on this page All right, sorry Bill, so 260 souls were lost
Starting point is 01:16:18 How come that only happens at sea, by the way? You only hear about souls Because I can't find the body When something happens at sea I can't find the body No, but they say like there were 260 souls aboard that ship They never say like there are 260 people It's a big seafaring word, I don't know
Starting point is 01:16:34 Angels They drowned Okay, so they drowned Did that actually happen? Did that get your attention? Yeah, it did. Well, that was Hearst's rhetoric. It's just like sensationalism.
Starting point is 01:16:47 So did that happen? Yeah, but no one's really sure if it was the Spanish who put the mine there or if a boiler exploded exploding all the munitions in the boat or if an American entity gave the Cuban guerrillas mines, water mines to blow up Spanish ships in Havana Harbor and they just accidentally hit the U.S. ship. So it was like the ammunition that we sold to them potentially, they used against us. It's like the Fast and the Furious thing that people talk about with Obama. Yeah, exactly. So no one really knows what exactly happened. All that we know is that it was framed by these tabloids, these newspapers, as a Spanish attack on U.S. ships. Now there's a famous quote that is,
Starting point is 01:17:41 claim to be attributed to Randolph Hearst, you furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war. So when contacting an illustrator down in Cuba, Randolph Hurst may have told him, like, the illustrator was like, there's no war here. We're not about to go to war. And he was like, you, I'll fabricate the war, you make the pictures. So like crazy. So that is the origin of yellow journalism as it stands in relation to the Spanish-American War. So wait, who said, I'll make the pictures? Hearst.
Starting point is 01:18:21 Hearst, basically. The guy was like, yo, dude, there's no war here. Like, stop asking about war. Like, no one's about to go to war. And Hurst was like, bro, I'll make the war. You make the pictures. This is maybe urban legend. No, I like to imagine that that conversation,
Starting point is 01:18:38 exactly how you described right there that's better than drunk history bro history there's no there's no war here and then the other guy said what like can dude just make the pictures of the war
Starting point is 01:18:52 like fabricate them I'll make the fucking war I'm your war dude I'll put you in a war mode put the whole contrary into war mode we should just have like bro history of Billy describing events in that like tonality yeah I mean that's the
Starting point is 01:19:08 show it really is in a nutshell anyway uh basically hurst and politzer got everyone riled up with all their like you know wars happening wars happening women are getting stripped on the beaches get by spanish people everyone was getting riled up um and because this was the popular the the growing immigrant population which which was all marketed to um much of the these like um um readers were the ones who ended up going to war and were the ones swayed by all of this sort of propaganda and yellow journalism, if you will. My actually, my grandmother's grandfather actually was living in New York City at the time and actually served in the American, the Spanish-American War. Yeah. So it was Hearst that was publishing fake articles about
Starting point is 01:20:03 to plot to sink the ship. And then how did they, how do they decide? who was going to like why did they team up together if there were such like bitter competitors you know they didn't they were competing by selling a war so people would buy papers but there was so it sounds like there was like a wink and a nod like an agreement between the two of them to be like hey we they both knew that this war shouldn't happen or there wasn't enough stuff going on to push America into war but they both kind of knew that if we go along with the narrative that there is then we'll end up selling a lot of papers now this is where historians have sort of like dismissed a lot of this because they're like like these two
Starting point is 01:20:44 are making money off of the situation in cuba and propagandizing it but the ones who made the decisions on the war did not read either of these one-sent newspaper they were all new york times readers but the people who were getting really pissed off about the stuff yeah those are also those are voters those are the constituents that's the public they were getting their news from these two sources and then they were getting angrier and angry and then that eventually flows to the people that are running for office exactly so at the end of the day we went to war with spain and took all their colonies it's pretty sick u.s say what was Spain doing over here anyways that's what the monroe doctrine that was basically like
Starting point is 01:21:37 anything anything in this hemisphere is ours yeah monroe doctrine's like bro that's your side this is my side yeah doctrine is a really polite way to say like that dude just said some shit that he he's going to back up like if you say doctrine it makes it sound really official but at the end of the day when you're issuing a doctrine he it was monroe just putting his nuts on the table exactly crazy stuff big time fuck him up socrates moment yeah all right so that would was the main do we remember the main we do that was like the first like remember uh december 5th like remember the main was the first sort of you know uh saying that really got everyone going what's on December 5th billy billy wait philly's Googling when was the alamo how was that not
Starting point is 01:22:32 the first remember uh December 7th i mean yeah yeah yeah remember December 5th also. All December Matter. I actually didn't know two days before the 7th. When he said December 5th, I was 80% sure he was talking about Pearl Harbor, but I also thought there was a 20% chance he was talking
Starting point is 01:22:51 about the 5th of November from V for Vendetta. Also remember that. Remember, remember the 5th of November. Oh, November. The gunpowder, treason, and plot. Yeah, Guy Fox. I know of no reason why the gunpowder treason should ever be forgot. Great movie. Okay, I got mixed up between remember the 5th November and
Starting point is 01:23:08 did you though because yeah it was numbers he's remembering he did remember there's a lot listen there's a lot to remember in early December there there's quite a few dates you have to remember when did we stop remembering the main as much like after we won the war at that point we're like okay they would
Starting point is 01:23:26 those 260 souls would have been happy with the fact that we have text yeah well they're adequately remembered at that point we had Texas already. Oh, sorry. What do we get? What colonies did we get out of that? We got, we got, uh, the Philippines. We got, uh, we didn't get Cuba, but we got, I think we do we get Hawaii? I don't know, but that's crazy. We definitely got the Philippines. That's crazy that we get the Philippines for fighting against Spain. Did you just ask if we got Hawaii in the
Starting point is 01:23:58 1800s? I think it was 1900s, right? Hawaii wasn't a state, Hawaii wasn't a state. It wasn't a state. It wasn't a state. It wasn't a state. It wasn't a state but we got the territory right oh we have guam you know what i mean yeah not everything we have that's true that's true i was just yeah we got guam anyway it is crazy that we could like conceivably at some point have like fought a war against iceland and we're like winter gets south africa there's uh like it's a for some reason a big hawaii episode there's no reason that should be this country i don't know what they should be but like flying there you're just in the middle of fucking There's nothing.
Starting point is 01:24:37 How we, anyone even stumbled upon Hawaii in the first place is nothing short of a miracle. Dude, Polynesian movement throughout the Pacific is like fascinating to read about. They're like the most seafaring people ever. Like they might like have like predisposed like navigational skills. Wait, are you saying that they might have like a sixth sense of how to get around? No, I'm serious. They like, there's.
Starting point is 01:25:00 I know that there's a culture that has been developed in sea. Right. But like they, I think that's probably more likely. than that they're like some superhuman half-fish but Billy's right that's yellow journalism it is Billy's right in the fact that
Starting point is 01:25:16 their techniques in that culture the boats that they made out of like just trees that would grow on on these small like islands with indigenous populations it's crazy that they were able to navigate such huge huge swaths of water at any given time but yeah if you've ever been to Hawaii
Starting point is 01:25:34 it is in the middle of nowhere nowhere I get the same sense that they're that most people that live like hawaians don't really want the united states to own them anymore no no at all people people that are from there don't really for they're like yo stop visiting what one thing that's really underrated is the native hawaiian flag i'm not talking about the state flag uh well they might use it as state flag i need to take a look at but the one it's like black yellow red green it's got two like crossed i think oars on it and it's got two like crossed i think oars on it that's a sick flag
Starting point is 01:26:07 it's a great flag oh yeah they fly that everywhere oh yeah that's a big time flag the canacama meoli that sounds right yeah oh and we fucked it up
Starting point is 01:26:20 I'm gonna look up yeah now it looks like the Hawaiian state of yeah we we fucking gentrified the Hawaiian's flag and now it's shit wait is it the one that looks like the British flag yeah that's like stinks the flag that they have now sucks
Starting point is 01:26:35 the original flag is awesome no flavor no flavor no flavor that has no flavor that shit is unseasoned chicken flag holy did you ever tear state flags i don't think i did flags i may have done license plates i don't think i didn't tear it but i did um i did a top 10 state flag do you remember which which one california i don't remember i know that that colorado was up there i like the bear on the colorado flag Arizona is a good one. I like the Virginia flag because the Virginia flag is an R-rated movie
Starting point is 01:27:07 into itself. There's a naked chick. It's got tits and then there's a dead dude on it. The Ohio flag's the only one that's not square. Yep. Yep,
Starting point is 01:27:16 they love to tell you that. She's straight up killing this guy, huh? Yeah. It is a big time flag. Sick Simper Taranus is on it. Isn't that what John Wilkes Booth yelled when he killed Abraham Lincoln? It was after it was on the flag.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Okay. Well, I feel like that's a big enough. That's a big enough of it to necessitate a change. It's a symbol of peace traditionally. Okay. Yeah. It's Hindu. All right? Massachusetts garbage state flag. Absolutely terrible. I've actually never seen it. Let me move it is. I think I put Texas in my top five, but I did it as a troll and I used a picture of the Chilean flag, which looks very similar. And then everyone from Texas got mad at me. It was great. Let's see. What else did I have in there? I need to go back and take a little. Oh, Arizona's flag is sick. Yeah, Arizona's going to get.
Starting point is 01:28:07 How do you feel about Maryland? I know it's very divisive. I like the Maryland flag, but the people that are from Maryland, they make way too big a deal out of their state flag. Yeah. They really do. It's the only source of pride, really. It's like, we've got that. And then we've got, uh, Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:28:22 We've got, yeah, crab cakes in Atlantic City. Yeah. We have, sorry. We have wedding crashes. Yeah. So wait, real quick, at the end of the Spanish American War, Spain. renounced all claim to Cuba, seated Guam and Puerto Rico to the United States,
Starting point is 01:28:37 and transferred sovereignty over the Philippines to the United States for $20 million. All because of those last souls. We beat them in a war and we had to pay them 20 mil? To buy the Philippines. I feel like that was bad negotiating on our BF. And then I think we just gave up to Philippines in the end. What year was this?
Starting point is 01:28:58 1890 what? It was kind of like, we'll pay you this small amount. Like, we've earned the, like, when the Red Sox got Dice K, it's like, we already paid the $50 million. But he's ours now. Yeah, but then we, that would be like paying for just to get him out of Japan. And then, like, we also signed him to pitch for the Mets. Like, that's what it sounds like we did with the Philippines. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 01:29:20 You're right. It would be like immediately be like, yeah, no what? I don't feel like it anymore. This inflation calculator only goes back to 1913, but that was $550 million back then. So maybe like, I don't know, 700? that would a bad deal yeah in retrospect it was but you know what for every one of those
Starting point is 01:29:38 you get uh you get in alaska that we bought from russia for like nothing what do we pay for alaska 7.2 7 million dollars for the entire state of alaska incredible incredible negotiation pretty good deal yeah all right sorry bill let's get back to the main no that's that's it okay
Starting point is 01:29:58 you ever think there would be like a like three people passed away on a snowmobiling accident and they'd be like, we lost three souls like in a recreational activity. I don't know. I mean, somebody out there is probably smarter than I am,
Starting point is 01:30:13 get back to me on the whole souls at sea thing because I still don't get it. Souls and Lake Lanier. Yeah. They just recovered another body. It was a professional basketball player. Damn, who was it? He wasn't professional America.
Starting point is 01:30:31 He was in like... Foreign player. played overseas. He was an American, but yeah, he was playing overseas. I think he... He was only 20. He drowned in like April. Yeah. Dorian Pinson of Greenville, South Carolina.
Starting point is 01:30:44 Yeah, he drowned, or he was witnessing in April, and they just recovered his body this weekend. Stay out of Lake Lanier people. I saw a tweet. Did I send this tweet to you guys where it was like people get drunk at a lake and drown and called haunted? Yeah. yeah that's partially true like when you're actually like like nears actually haunted but i wonder if like let me know dm me on the instagram if there's like lakes by where you live that people call haunted but it's just people to get drunk uh there was another thing about the uh oh wait there was a new york post
Starting point is 01:31:20 article that had a guy who got eaten in a shark attack came out last week the tweet was a picture of this dude this poor dude lying face down in the sand with one of his hands bitten off and then blood coming out of his leg like a hunk missing out of his leg and the headline was man gets attacked and killed by shark after walking into the water when he was drunk to urinate and it's like I mean is that a crime peeing in the water when you're drunk because if so does that make you liable to shark attacks because if so I should be dead by now he was taking he was taking a aqua dump and he had his pants down and that's why bit it.
Starting point is 01:32:03 He used an aqua dumping? Yeah. Like basically he lost one of his cheeks. Damn. Well, that was also from the New York Post. And that's a prime example of, that's like fear-based media shit, which I predicted that a couple weeks ago. This might be a summer of the shark because media is always looking to make us scared about something. And we haven't had like a pandemic of fear porn about shark attacks in a long time.
Starting point is 01:32:29 So you stay woke on that. Sharks are, they're your friends. Billy, you know who founded the New York Post? Did you do that in your research? Who? Alexander Hamilton. Nice. That was just a nice fun fact.
Starting point is 01:32:43 There was nothing else on that. It was a very fun fact. Aaron, what do you want to go off on? When I was looking at this, there isn't much in today's news cycle that you couldn't consider yellow journalism, right? Because journalism has kind of evolved into a clickbait cesspool and it's interwoven with entertainment.
Starting point is 01:33:08 And so now your income as a journalist or a reporter is directly correlated to how many people are viewing it. And so the sensationalism of your piece has to supersede the accuracy in it. And so like journalistic integrity is kind of gone by the wayside and it's not really a thing anymore. And so I had multiplicity of things to pick from. I think Billy, you said earlier, like the height of it was like
Starting point is 01:33:39 in the whenever it first started or I think we're in the height of it right now because the explode and the boom of the internet where anybody can have a blog, anybody can have. So it's like how to source information is in critical thinking is really like the most important steps in these next couple generations or else we're just going to fucking kill ourselves off and there's just no there's no coming back for it. So the one that I just picked to talk about, and I was
Starting point is 01:34:08 going to brush over it, it's critical race theory because it's in the news, right? So critical race theory has been like sensationalized by like right wing people and they're like, don't teach it in our schools and like you ask 99.99% of them what it is and I don't know what the fuck it is. And like so much so to where like Texas just today, I think, bang. and some historical civil rights, monumental moments from being taught in the school. So I think one was, you know, I think the Texas Senate voted to, right, but I don't think it's gone through yet. But Martin Luther King's, I have a dream speech, his letter from Birmingham jail, because they think it's a part of, like, critical race theory. But like, so like the basic understanding, and I'm like a critical, I'm not a critical race theorist, but I know a little bit about it.
Starting point is 01:34:59 critical rate, the basics of it is it just takes, it's a, it's, it's, it's, it's a legal analyzation of how race has been interwoven with our laws in our country. And it just basically explores, uh, critically how, um, the institutions have, uh, been, um, inundated with race issues, right? And so, and it really, it's a subset of critical theory, which is a, it's another study, right? which is, which takes a look at how the institutions of something might be biased, but the individual might not be biased. So, like, you'll hear of, like, Fox News people, like,
Starting point is 01:35:41 they're teaching you to white people want to hate themselves. And, like, it's stupid. They've never read anything on critical race theory. And, but that kind of sensationalism can lead to, like, what we had today, like with Texas Senate voting saying, we're banning Martin Luther King's speeches, which is what they like to. refer to when they talk about Martin Luther King, knowing they haven't read any other things
Starting point is 01:36:03 of Martin Luther King, which is a whole different conversation. But like, it's sensationalizing our history in America of actually having progress made because we addressed wrongs, right? And so they're sensationalizing it so much to say, like, a speech for Martin Luther King is like critical race there. And it's just not. And it's just stupid. And I don't see a remedy in any time soon with, you know, little journalism in general, unless we address it with our youth and teach them how to critically think and teach them how to source information because right now a blog on Facebook is just as pertinent to somebody as like a peer-reviewed study. And like it's, there's just no remedy other than like critical
Starting point is 01:36:48 thinking skills. And stuff that gets shared is the stuff that scares people the most. Well, actually, Kolo, this is actually something that you probably have a little bit of insight into. in terms of what you see on our blog at least what are it's probably quite a bit different from the internet as a whole but what are like the three things that you would see and be like yeah this one's going to get shared um fights go crazy like especially not not like professional fights but like i think the biggest blog this year was the oklahoma city uh Oklahoma football players getting their ass beat in the bathroom uh Um, that went crazy.
Starting point is 01:37:29 Um, I'm trying to think like the biggest thing I wrote was, uh, the white woman heckling LeBron, uh, was that the Hawks game. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That, that went crazy. So that was like kind of what we were talking about earlier, white woman, black guy. LeBron.
Starting point is 01:37:47 LeBron always draws eyeballs. I'm trying to think if there's like a third one. Like if I. look at like the top 50 for a given week like a lot of our smoke shows are still some of our most clicked on which blows my mind like it it's obviously a part of our business so i don't bash it but it's like you can see attractive women all everywhere everywhere on the internet and still there's something there's some alert to us doing it that it's like i don't know if it's like this faux sense of attainability people sell themselves on i don't know what i don't know what
Starting point is 01:38:26 what the secret sauce is to it, but that's still play. Women, attractive women will always play. But back to, to Arian's point, like, it is crazy how there's no standard at all for truth in terms of how good something does and how many times it's shared on Facebook or on Twitter or wherever it might be. So it's like usually the most sensationalized stuff, at least when it comes in news articles, are the ones that get passed around. It seems to me that critical race theory, and I'm not an expert. There's like only a handful of people on earth who are critical race theory experts, right? It's not a very common thing.
Starting point is 01:39:04 I'm not an expert on it, but it seems like what's happened is that's become a catch-all phrase for anything that white people feel uncomfortable about discussing when it comes to racism. They just call it critical race theory, right? Yeah. And if you look at like, like, so like, if you look at like the curriculums that are mandated for K through 12, of schools, critical race theory is not a part of it. They may pull references from maybe an article or a book and use it to teach whatever their lesson plan is for like a historical moment that has happened with civil rights, but like critical race theory is not being taught in K through 12.
Starting point is 01:39:44 Then that's the funny part. It's like you're like having parent teacher board meetings, right, talking about critical race theory should not be taught in our schools and none of them know what the fuck it is. And that's it, and that's the danger of, of yellow journalism, right? That has, like, real life, like, you know, this is like a joke and, you know, like, we have a lot of fun on the show. But it was like, the danger of it is, like, real shit, right?
Starting point is 01:40:05 Because, like, I don't know, earmoff's big T, but like, like, like, when you have, like, vaccine misinformation, right? You have, like, there's real life consequences. Yeah, my dog. When you have, like, your mother's a nurse, right? So, like, right? But, like, when you have, when you have misinformation that, that is, is propagated at a high rate And so much so to where your gauge for truth is skewed because you don't know how to source information.
Starting point is 01:40:35 Like, that's when real life, like, implications happen. And that's the scary shit and why I say, like, I don't see a remedy other than, like, you really caring about what you think about. Like, that was always, like, I always tell people, it's like, you have to give a fuck what you think about. Because if you don't, anything is just as viable. or, I mean, anything is just as authentically sorted through. And it's not the case. And so, like, you have to care about the shit that you think about or else you're susceptible to a lot of bullshit.
Starting point is 01:41:05 Everything I've heard and read about actual critical race theory is it's like a master's level course. Like, it's not anything, like you were saying, it's not taught to children. Like, there was no way for them to conceptualize it. You can't. There's no way you can teach that to them. Right. And it's like, like PFT was saying, And there's only a handful of theorists that specialize that that's alive.
Starting point is 01:41:27 But it's some we talked about earlier. Like it has this like no one was talking about, I'm sure if you check Google trends, critical race theory like would be flat as recently as like six months ago. Like no one was talking about it. And then like out of nowhere, it just became this big bad. It's always this faceless monster.
Starting point is 01:41:46 It's always like some it's a, what is it? with Fahrenheit. I always fuck up the Fahrenheit 4.51. That's like they referenced the war at the beginning of the book and then they don't reference it. Like they never actually show it. That's kind of what this is. It's this reference to this thing that doesn't actually
Starting point is 01:42:05 exist, but you should be worried about it. I know someone just went viral because they like broke into a PTA meeting where they were debating critical race theory and they just started saying all sorts of shit and no one knew whether to like cheer or boo him because they actually didn't
Starting point is 01:42:21 know what the fuck critical race theory was. So they were like, we don't, we can't tell if this guy's making fun of us or if he's on our side. And it's 100% correct, man. It's become, I feel like just a label for, uh, like I said earlier, it's a catchall where if there's something being discussed about race that people are just saying like don't teach kids anything that makes the United States seem like we should be in the position of apologizing for anything that we've done.
Starting point is 01:42:50 And so anyone that kind of take. makes that frame of mind is just using critical race theory as like, that's the slogan of what we're going. Right. They're just, they're expanding the definition to include everything under that umbrella, which is a completely different story. Yeah. I just, I just be hella confused, like, with mainly white folks, but like, right-ling people in general who are, like, take opposition to the fact that America was rooted in racism. Like, like, I have really, I really have not heard. a solid, like, reason as to why, like, they're so against that. Like, I just don't understand that shit at all. Like, literally, like, I can, I don't know, I can name countless examples of how it's written legislatively in our laws against Black folk.
Starting point is 01:43:39 I just don't understand how, like, you can possibly concoct any other argument. I think a lot of white people, uh, feel. feel worse being called a racist than they do participating in racism. Does that make sense? Like, it's like white people are terrified to be labeled. They're terrified. We're terrified, I should say, of being labeled as a racist. It's like the worst thing that you could ever imagine.
Starting point is 01:44:11 People get like very fit and defensive of themselves if they're ever labeled as that. Because everyone thinks of themselves as being a good person, you know, like as being colorblind. I know I don't see color, that sort of thing. Like, everyone tries. Yeah, purple. Once the word purple comes out, that's how you know you're cooking. Black, white, purple, blue. They always skip over the Y word in that one, Billy.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Just. Speaking of yellow people, head-ass. There are. Dutch. Well, it's just something that like there's, I'm saying this, like, I can admit, like, I honestly think that everybody in this world is racist. Like we all are, but you work to get over what your biases are and you learn about where you're being, where racism is coming into your mind and where that's unfair and you try to get over it. And I think we all have our prejudices that we grow up with.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Well, see, prejudice and racism. There's a distinct difference between presidents and racism. Prejudice, I agree, everybody's prejudice. And I think a majority of prejudice is actually healthy because it can actually bring honesty to a table to where you can begin discuss each other's differences in a very honest way, right? But racism is the superiority complex, right? And even the term racism has, it's an umbrella term
Starting point is 01:45:27 and you have a spectrum of where and what people think and the definition is, but like this is just giving you my definition where there's a superiority complex, because somebody is this, that equals this. So you hear a lot of correlations to like, when the whole Black Lives Matter movement was really popping, right? You hear a lot of correlations to the, is it 1350 or something like that? Black folks are 13% of the population, but we commit 50% of the murders.
Starting point is 01:45:52 So the, so the inference there is that we're inherently more violent. Like that's the inference. That in itself is racism. Like you're saying, because you're black, you're more prone to be, violent than anybody else without taking into the variable of the socioeconomic situations where poverty and violence are very much correlated, right? So like, I mean, there's a lot to unpack in just that little statement, but I think it's important to just, there's a difference to racism and, and, and prejudice.
Starting point is 01:46:23 That's right. I guess I, I meant to. I agree with you though. The prejudicial aspect. We all have it. And I think like white people, myself include, like, there, I'm naturally going to be defensive if somebody calls me a racist because not no white person or most of them I don't want to say no because there are some people some white people certainly who are like yeah I'm a racist what of it
Starting point is 01:46:43 but I think a lot of white people they're taught from a very young age like being race being a racist is a worst thing that you can possibly be like you might as well call somebody a murder if you're calling them racist like it's a it's imputing their entire character so I think a lot of people get defensive when they hear that about themselves and rather than genuinely self-reflect on what their beliefs are or what actions they've taken that might be interpreted as racist or might be racist,
Starting point is 01:47:10 their first instinct is to fight back against that and that other person must be wrong and they must be the bad guy if they're calling me black or if a black person is calling me racist because... I'm sorry, go ahead. No, I was just going to say,
Starting point is 01:47:25 it's a defense mechanism, I think a lot of times and when it's put in it, when somebody who has power is accused being racist a lot of times, the last thing that they'll want to do is appear weak and appear like they're changing something because somebody else called them a bad word. And so I think people in general just need to be able to be more self-reflective and have a little bit less pride
Starting point is 01:47:50 in general and be willing to concede that they're not always going to be 100% right and we're not always going to be perfect angels about everything. We all have our flaws, but the more we examine them, the more we can get over them. You know, the irony is, and you're right, brother, but you know, the irony is, like, that's exactly what critical race theory does. It examines how, like I said it previously, but examines how individuals may have biases, but it's more the institutions that carry the structural racism. So it's not even calling individuals racist. Of course, it acknowledges that there are racist human beings, but it more so examines how the institutions have a complicit bias. towards a subset of people.
Starting point is 01:48:36 And like, that's the irony is like, they're so against critical race there when it's actually absolving you, of calling you a racist, but you're in turn saying the exact opposite of what it actually is. Well, that's why schools are trying to combat it because they're the institution.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Bax? That's facts. But there was one thing, actually, Aaron, and you said, I think it was last year on my tape during last July when everything was, was happening and it you you hit on it I think perfectly it was something I had never been able to figure out how to say but it was guilt versus empathy and it's a lot of white people are like well i didn't fucking enslave anybody i'm 25 years old and it's just like well yeah you're not supposed to feel guilty about you're supposed to feel like empathetic towards it like yeah that was
Starting point is 01:49:26 horrible and it like that guilt i think gets a lot of people it's like misinterpreting their own feelings It's it halts them from actually stopping and thinking, well, like, yeah, no shit I wasn't involved back then. But what am I doing today to try and take it one step for, like, advance past everything we got going on? It's because of that is why, like, I lean like so progressive, right? And so it's like, I don't know enough to totally, you know, take the conversation somewhere else. But like, like, I don't know shit about trans folk and they struggle, right? I don't know enough about it. But what I do know is like they feel margin.
Starting point is 01:50:02 I know what it feels to be marginalized or feel like I'm being marginalized, right? And so all I do is listen to them. Like I still don't know enough about it, but like I just listen to them. And their way, their way, who they are doesn't offend me and it doesn't affect me. And so I'm more inclined to try to fight for folks that are feel marginalized, right? And so like I don't know enough about it. Like I will not get into a trans argument because I don't know enough about it. I don't know the data.
Starting point is 01:50:29 I don't know the facts. I don't know. It's just not that interesting to me. But what I do know is like, I took what I went through, right, as a kid, a lot of times, and I just applied it to somebody who said that they go through something similar, right? And not to equate those two, I think they're very different. But that's like what you said, it's just empathy. I'm not trans.
Starting point is 01:50:48 I'm what they call a cis male who just is attracted to women and nothing else. But I don't know what it's like to be gay. I don't know what it's like to want to, you know what I'm saying? To have somebody look at my sexual preference and be like, that's weird, right? I don't know what that's like, but I do know what it's like to be looked at and say that's weird. So, like, I'm just like, that's to me the core of all of this, really, is, is, is empathy. Yeah. You take yourself out of your shoes and, and, and apply that to somebody else who may be feeling the same way you did.
Starting point is 01:51:22 I agree with that. I think a lot of the, it boils down to, like, a lot of the world's issues or a lot of the United States issues, for that matter, could be impacted positively if people just thought about somebody else before. they thought about themselves when it comes. And I think most people, they try to do that, but they, like in theory, but they fail in practice. So like what Coley brought up was a pretty good example of that. If somebody is like, you know, you gave an example a second ago. I'm trying to remember about, um, uh, oh, like I didn't do that.
Starting point is 01:51:54 Like that doesn't like I, I'm not responsible for that. That's, that's a pretty clear example of like having that defense pop up first. before thinking about somebody else. Like, the person wasn't saying that you were responsible for. If somebody was like, hey, just ipso facto, black people couldn't vote until, you know, 50 years ago in the South. And then you're like, well, that wasn't me. When a normal response would just be like, yeah, that sucks.
Starting point is 01:52:20 Like, that's terrible that that happened. Let's make sure that that never happens. Again, no one's, no one's accusing you as a person of doing that or being responsible for it. But a lot of people react like they are being accused of it. It's fucking, it's like main character. Everyone thinks they're the main character. So like, well, I can't, I can't fix it. I didn't, it's not my fault.
Starting point is 01:52:40 It's like no one said that. Like, we know. Yeah, Quigs would definitely feel like he was being accused of everything because remember Quiggs is the only person that exists on the planet. Oh, the solipsist. Yeah. But yes, that was critical race theory on macrodosing. And I think a lot of people are also, honestly,
Starting point is 01:53:02 white people I think by and large are just they get tired of of talking about race a lot because they feel like they do they do feel guilty sometimes and when you see people like pressing back in like school PTAs and stuff they're they're just saying like I don't want like I'm sick of feeling guilty like that's that's the that's the emotion that they might be trying to to express and honestly like we have a lot of fun on the show we joke around and that like that like conversation that we just had was really interesting. But it's, you know, it's like 10% of what we do on the show. And I think that people are just afraid that if you start talking about this stuff in a classroom environment, then the entire school like learning system is just going to be discussing race. And that's not that. I don't think that's anybody's goal. Nobody wants that. But white people are deathly afraid of having a learning environment where like everything is broken down about race because there are so many white people that are just, they're tired of talking about race, not saying that they
Starting point is 01:54:04 should be or that's a good thing, but I'm just like, that's what's going on, I think. I agree, which is hilarious. And on a lot of fronts that they're tired of talking about race, but it is what it is. I don't think, and I don't want to speak
Starting point is 01:54:22 for anyone, but I think black people would love to stop talking about race. I'm so sick of it. I'm so sick of it. Yeah, I'm sure you, family. All right, Big T. All right, Benjamin Franklin. Benjamin Franklin.
Starting point is 01:54:40 So this guy, um, created all the institutions. Yeah, we probably should have gone in chronological order. So Franklin, um, so Billy was talking about, do we even still need to do this? Why? So, Billy was talking about yellow journalism, uh, originating in the 1800s, which the, the definition did. But Ben Franklin was doing some, some yellowish journalism stuff back, uh, 150 years before that. So he always loved writing.
Starting point is 01:55:17 Uh, when he was a kid, his brother had a newspaper and the, the famous silence do good letters he wrote under his pseudonym because his brother wouldn't let him publish anything in his newspaper when he was like 15. Um, so he wrote under a pseudonym and those got published. So he always loved writing. Um, and then. in i believe it was 1782 so like uh wait his pin name was silence do good he wrote letters someone's never seen national treasure yeah have you not i saw the first one is that in the second
Starting point is 01:55:45 one no i think it's the first one it is the first one that's the first one wait wait because he goes to his dad's house yeah yeah because he goes to his dad's house in virginia to get the letters and then he goes to philly from there that is the first one okay yeah it might be too yeah it's buddy with he had it in his jacket and then they go yeah they go to the to the caves and yeah yeah i think it might be too anyway um you see yeah so ben franklin wrote under a pseudonym to his brother's newspaper like these letters he was supposed to be a widow of whatever so that's how he got his stuff published as a kid when his brother wouldn't let him so then in 1782 at the end of the american revolution he is in paris as the ambassador to france and um he's trying to come up with a way to uh get the british public
Starting point is 01:56:30 to sympathize with the Americans and more over get the British government to give some sort of reparations to U.S. citizens after the war. So he wrote, he created a fake newspaper pretty much completely fake. Well, he did it as a real newspaper. There was a paper called the Boston Independent Chronicle. He wrote something that he claimed was the supplement to the Boston Independent Chronicle. and he wrote these letters. One was talking about how, so one was supposed to be someone in the military who came across some Native Americans
Starting point is 01:57:08 who had scalped American citizens. And they were, he was talking about it. And he said, discovered more than 700, quote, scouts from our unhappy country folks. That was the thing about that. There were bags of boys, girls, and soldiers and even infant scalps, all allegedly taken by Indians in league with King George. And that was the other thing is that the king told them to do it. This was supposed to arouse some feelings against him in England.
Starting point is 01:57:37 And then there was another letter that was supposed to be from John Paul Jones. So he was saying that there were Native Americans that were teamed up with, that were like big King George stands. Yeah. That were killing people in the United States. Yes. Yeah. I got to take my hat off to the creativity. That's just pretty brilliant.
Starting point is 01:57:53 And then there was another letter that was supposed to be from John Paul Jones. That one didn't really do anything from what I understand. Nobody really cared about that. It was the other one that really did it in England. And so he got it published in newspapers, both in the United States and in Great Britain. He put ads in it and stuff to make it look like it was really supposed to be in the Independent Chronicle. Did you say that John Paul Jones, the name is maybe the most? successful three-word name of all time when it comes to like you have two very famous people
Starting point is 01:58:30 it was what uh was it the base player from lead zeppelin and this famous naval captain both had the same name do hyphenated names count give me an example kareem abdul jabbar yeah is there another cream abdul jabbar like he's saying like there's multiple people named i'm saying like two two separate names has to be three names oh wait i thought first middle and last The way you said successful, I thought you meant, okay, you're saying the name itself. The name itself, John Paul Jones. Is there another name out there that has first name, middle name, and last name that both have two, like, worldly famous people. There was also a guy on the Bachelorette named John Paul Jones.
Starting point is 01:59:13 Oh, I see. Oh, I forgot about him too. John Paul Jones. I thought when you said successful, I thought you meant like a person with three names who was the most successful. I do like that your brain went immediately to Kareem Abdul-Jabal. bar as being like the most successful person ever. Well, with three names. Well, we all have three names.
Starting point is 01:59:28 What's your middle name? Hudson. Hudson. It's my great-grandfather's name. I like that. All right. That's nice. We're going to get back to macrodosing a second.
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Starting point is 02:01:41 um so no he sent it to other newspapers in like new york and rhode island and stuff in addition to great britton and was like hey um this also goes with the boston independent chronicle and they were like, yeah, looks, looks good. I mean, that's kind of genius, isn't it? Yeah. So was he already super wealthy at this point? I would assume so, because this was like after, right at the end of the revolution, he was the ambassador to France.
Starting point is 02:02:03 So, yeah, I would assume. I also think that running a propaganda outlet would be enormously exciting. It would be so fun to, like, be in his office. And he's got like these walls of different things that he wants to write about and just completely make up. Like, okay, so I'm going to run the stories about the Iroquois chief that, has like a custom-made red jacket with King George. He's got a King George jersey that's hung up on his wall.
Starting point is 02:02:29 And he absolutely hates the United States. Like I have to imagine that that would actually be kind of fun coming up with those stories and then like mailing them all out and just watching your propaganda go crazy viral all across the world. Essentially, it's something you made up out of nowhere. And now everybody believes. Yeah, he went pretty viral. You know who we should have had on this show? Whose buddy we had on for aliens?
Starting point is 02:02:50 The nigga Al-Eleven. that fucking guys yellow journalism king big cap whole sight big cap but then they also break some real shit
Starting point is 02:03:00 every now I'm saying I'm conflicted he might be the only one telling it straight now now
Starting point is 02:03:05 right nah fuck that dude I mean we never back to that by the way you're right you're right
Starting point is 02:03:13 we didn't at the beginning we were like hey arian's got some things to say we're going to get to it
Starting point is 02:03:17 at the end and then we just never did yeah I didn't want to get on his bumper at the first first part of
Starting point is 02:03:21 Because then it would be awkward. I didn't want to be like, hey, man, fuck you, dog. I didn't want to start with that. Yeah. Oh, Big T. You said this, and I mean, if there's any other nerds out there, they'll appreciate this fact. You said, Buddy had the most beautiful grave. John Paul Jones, yeah, it's at the Naval Academy.
Starting point is 02:03:40 All right. So, like, I would challenge that, but he might, right, but this. Out of just that I've seen. Right, right. So the dopest grave I've seen, everybody should give your favorite, your favorite grave sites. The dobs grave I've seen besides the Great Pyramid, right? It's by Ludwig Bozeman. He was a physicist that had the equation for entropy.
Starting point is 02:04:02 He has a dope-ass grave and it's a fucking thing of him and then has his equation, his famous equation, on a backdrop, which is fucking a flex in the afterlife, though. That's true. Sure. Share fire. Ludwig Bozeman. Check it out.
Starting point is 02:04:17 Babe Ruth has a sick grave. I haven't seen it It's like a little farther right outside of the city I mean what's it all about Why is it so sad? Oh it's got it's just like a picture Big Teases is strong Babe yeah it's awesome Babe Ruth
Starting point is 02:04:32 He was an orphan so sort of his grave sort of like Him with another orphan and like There's a baseball Like there's a baseball bat and ball there That there's no one touches It's like really cool That's kind of cool I'm surprised that nobody
Starting point is 02:04:48 he actually touches it, though. Don't fuck with Babe Ruth. Jim Morrison's grave is pretty cool. Who? Jim Morrison, singer of the doors. He's buried in Paris. I remember hearing a story about Jim Ursa going to visit Jim Morrison's grave one time,
Starting point is 02:05:05 and he just stood in front of it and started crying and singing songs. Like, yep, that's Jim Mersey for you. Sounds right. So, yeah, I mean, Ben Franklin's always been kind of a crazy character to me because he's, the hairstyle alone. that he rocked throughout his entire life.
Starting point is 02:05:21 The half-balled skullet, I guess you could call it. Yeah, yeah. And he was, I'm going to guess people were shorter back then. So he's probably like 5 to 300 pounds, but he fucked. Big time. Yeah, he was a chunky fellow. Yeah, he was a guy, you know why I spent so much time in Paris? It says he was 5.9.
Starting point is 02:05:39 Yeah, but in today's day, like there's a conversion rate you have to put it into there. Well, wouldn't that make him taller now? I think he's 5-9 now. I think he's 5-9 now. Okay. And probably like five. George Washington, 6-2. Yeah, big dude.
Starting point is 02:05:54 That was like a giant back then. Lincoln, 6-4. I think Ben Franklin just went to Paris one time and saw prostitution and was like, this is my favorite country. I'm going to stay here. Yeah. I'm now a big fan of French art. Oh, you know what else he lied about Ben Franklin?
Starting point is 02:06:09 French fries. Did he lie about fries? Yeah, he pretended that French fries came from France. and he like brought them over he claims fries yeah Franklin the first United States that feels like big Bobby Valentine
Starting point is 02:06:27 energy well Bobby Valentine actually did invent the rap does not I mean burritos have existed well beyond the lifespan of Bobby Valentine it was a sandwich though
Starting point is 02:06:39 he took a sandwich and turned into a rap you don't understand Franklin the first United States envoy to France in the 1770s discovered palm fruits at a dinner hosted by French pharmacist who made a habit of serving potatoes up to 20 different rays. When Thomas Jefferson succeeded Franklin, he also experienced fried potatoes in the French manner. So Franklin and
Starting point is 02:07:00 Jefferson claim discovering French fries? Yeah, I'm going to hit the cat button on that one too. Jefferson claims it too? Apparently. Well, you know Jefferson couldn't like let somebody else claimed to invent something back then. He claimed he invented everything. This is the, this is the CRT people are worried about. We're turning down these historical figures and their claims. I, for one, I'm appalled. No, man, I, I am long on the record that Thomas Jefferson is a fucking liar about almost everything that he did. He claimed he invented so many things. And guess what? When you're one of the most famous people, one of the only famous people in the entire country back then, you can just take anybody else's idea and you can publish and be like, I thought of
Starting point is 02:07:43 this. Thomas Jefferson was a big, big fucking liar. I'm on record, but I want everybody to know. I'm not. I see through your, your bullshit, T.J. Another great grave, Karl Marx, regardless of how you feel about his politics, look at his, look at his grave. That's pretty badass, isn't it? Oh, that is, that's an interesting one. It's a giant, uh, he's got his, but can't bust on his grave. Yes, he does. He's got it. It's a giant tombstone. Then a huge ass head of Carl Marx with his It looks like God's grave. Like, he was like, make me look as much like a big bearded guy in the sky as possible. It looks like he had to do with it.
Starting point is 02:08:20 It's fire. It's like a transformer, like a kid got halfway through transforming and then just like couldn't figure out the rest. Like that thing sprouting legs and just like marching around wouldn't shock me. He forms a zombies union. All right. Was that, is that it for you, Big T? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:44 I got a very recent one that's actually, you know, connects back to our whole Facebook digital targeting of information. So back in Myanmar, basically they had a genocide that was caused by mass, basically a bunch of Myanmar military officials and soldiers. were just pretending to be news outlets on Facebook and targeted ads and just pumping out like content about like certain groups of people in Myanmar negative and literally cause the genocide. Are we going to correct them on that country or no? I know.
Starting point is 02:09:31 Okay. Myanmar? Myanmar. Big T's technically right. I was going to say I don't know who's right to be fair. I know. I know the story. The interesting, the more interesting part of it, right,
Starting point is 02:09:43 this is another structural issue is that they didn't have internet, right? They thought internet was Facebook. So you know, open up Facebook is like an app or it's like a site, right? Yeah. All they had was Facebook. There was nothing else. There was just Facebook. And so they thought that's what the internet was.
Starting point is 02:10:00 And so like they don't, they were unable to source any kind of accurate information. They thought this is what I'm reading. This has to be true. And so that was like a really intricate part of that story. It was like there was no internet to fact check. And I believe Facebook like paid that any phone or computer you got in that country came the only thing that was on it was Facebook. So literally everyone in the country used it and like exclusively. And that's what.
Starting point is 02:10:31 It was just Facebook. Yeah. And yeah, the algorithms worked and they were just posting underneath like there was like a military sniper who was like a huge like. like a content creator of sniper content and like military content and like everyone like worshipped them in the country and you know like pop stars and stuff so it was just a very nasty situation that just did not end well that's it's actually similar to uh back in the mid 90s the genocide in rwanda that was perpetrator it was kind of the exact same situation except more militaristic people took over their big radio station there so really the only radio that
Starting point is 02:11:10 they had in town. It was called Radio Television Libre de Mill Colleen. And it was run by the hoodos. And then they would just spread propaganda against the Tutsis. And then I forget how many hundreds of thousands of people, Tutsis were killed because of the propaganda that was being spout out. Like, I think the guy ended up being tried, or he escaped to France for a while, the guy that ran the thing. I don't know exactly what happened to him. But it was called the soundtrack for genocide because they would just basically spread whatever news the government wanted them to spread about to marginalized people. And then there would be just riots in the streets with machetes and all the all the Tutsis were slaughtered for like six years there. Well, that's why I said at the
Starting point is 02:11:54 beginning, like, is like I would argue that in order to carry out any kind of genocide or mass war or anything like that, this is actually yellow journalism, just spread of misinformation is actually a necessity. Because it's not the people that are. are, like, that are starting the wars, right, that are on the front lines. It's the people that you have to get people to believe in the cause that they're fighting for us is not only worthy, but if I don't do it, they're going to ruin my way of life. And so that's literally that shit. Nazi Germany, same thing.
Starting point is 02:12:27 Propaganda, fueled by Hitler, fueled by, that's what's what you, it's necessary for any kind of evil to be done on a mass scale. I think that if, uh, if we vote to go to war, the people who vote for us to go to war should have to serve in the war. Yeah, y'all front lines. Then we'll see how quick you pull that trigger. Oh, yeah, universal service? Yeah, I think that
Starting point is 02:12:48 that's a pretty good thing to do. It's kind of along the same lines of the theory that the president, when he becomes president, should pick somebody to be like one of his closest advisors that has the key to the nuclear weapons or at least the code
Starting point is 02:13:04 implanted in his heart or next to his heart. So in order to get the code out the president has to kill like one person with his bare hands or her bare hands to get that coat out because you are about to kill like hundreds of thousands people so what's one more it should really make a difference if if you know that it has to be done like get your hands dirty too there's one problem with that what's that what if someone fires a nuke just one what if someone fires a nuke at us what's that if someone fires a nuke it does?
Starting point is 02:13:37 Yeah. And that one person is going to go down as a hero, being like, yeah, open me up. Get my, get my, sacrificial lamb. But every, every second is, is like, how long does it take you to cut into my body? You could probably, Billy, I know you, you would go rummaging through my chest cavity. Like it was the giant nose and doubled there and you're trying to get the fly. You think Joe Biden could do that? No, but Major Biden, his dog could.
Starting point is 02:14:04 That dog would have that coat out. You rub it in like a peanut butter before you install in the guy's heart. Aryan would write it on a dog's heart. That would be fired. That'd be a good one, actually. Oh, yeah, we're just talking about, like, I don't know if universal service is the answer. As a Quaker, I probably shouldn't believe in that. But, like, if you do vote for the war, as I'm a politician, I'm saying.
Starting point is 02:14:30 If politician is voting to send people to war, you should also go to war. Einstein said, um, the, he said what is it I'm paraphrasing but he said something like if the world is going to be warless it has to come from like the generation of children
Starting point is 02:14:46 that refused to go to war or not it was like a peaceful world who comes from like a generation of children that refused to go to war like that's but he also fuck his cousin but I agree with what he said you know I have to agree with people across the board yeah we all have our flaws
Starting point is 02:15:00 we all have our hiccups as far as as grand the grand scheme of things go, it's probably, uh, it's only like a four out of ten on the problematic scale. Yeah. I mean, I don't know if it was first, I think it was his first cousin, actually. It doesn't matter, like, how attractive his cousin was. Oh, it matters and she wasn't even bad, though.
Starting point is 02:15:21 Okay. Wasn't even bad. Wait, wait, this might be one of the, this might be one of these language barrier things that we have to get across here. And when you say she wasn't even bad, do you mean bad like good? Yeah, she wasn't, she was not sexy. Okay. Right. Damn. All right. See.
Starting point is 02:15:37 Well, to me, I'm pretty sure she might fancy one of y'all's eyes. But, like, when I don't think so actually, I'll go on one on the record. If you Google Einstein's cousin wife that you probably won't find her too attractive. Let's see. I'm looking her up right. Because her, his first wife was way better, right? And she was also a physicist. I think he just got tired of her shit. There's some people say that he stole some of her work. I don't know as who's to say
Starting point is 02:16:05 But like You see you see it You see the cousin wife Yeah the cousin wife looks exactly like Einstein Yeah That what I'm saying bro What's his cousin That's John Fidelberg
Starting point is 02:16:17 Yeah but what does that mouth do though We don't know What damn mouth did I want on a I want on a quote card That's just says Einstein Couldn't pull bad bitches By Aryan Foster
Starting point is 02:16:31 I mean I'm pretty sure he could have because he was in America and one of his best friends was um who the nigger was famous for like the like uh panama and stuff like charlie chaplin his one of his best friends and i know that nigga was fucking lots of bad bitches and that was one of his best friends and you know i would venture to say Einstein had some bad bitches but he was walking around with the with the with the jump from matilda oh man Einstein really had a good marketing team, though. Like, he got down.
Starting point is 02:17:07 They just called him by his last name. He only had the one. The mustache was iconic. Still to this day, if somebody's smart, you're like, that guy's an Einstein. Like they haven't been any smart people since Albert Einstein. Ah, man. I don't, I'm unsure if you know exactly what he's done. But it's like, if he would have done one of the things that he did, he'd have been hella
Starting point is 02:17:32 famous, right? But he did like four or five or six, like things that are fucking astronomically science-changing thing. Like, he's the reason why we know why the sky is blue. He figured that shit up. I still don't know. I like how PFT was just like, is Einstein the 85 Bears defense of smart people? Like, we've seen the Ravens, the Bucks, the Patriots. No, we still go back.
Starting point is 02:17:59 Yeah, that was very funny. There's a hell of smart people, but he did so much, Doug. Like, he discovered, I think he could Einstein be smart in today's NBA? That's what it is. It's a different era. Like the way that we judge IQ, we've got probably questions that are worth different amounts of points, just like the NBA. I don't know. Could he make it on the dozen?
Starting point is 02:18:23 Could he, how many points would he get? Also, also, I know you're not a Neil deGrasse Tyson guy, but it's like, like, you have, like, super hell of smart people like that. And they're, like, they have to spend their time, like, debating. Flat Earthers. So it's like, you know what I mean? Like, we never saw that side of Einstein where he's like, you know, shut the fuck up with that shit. Like you didn't have to combat flat Earthers. I never saw Einstein play. The other mathematicians he was competing against were like they were part-time plumbers and car salesmen back then. There's actually a, a mathematician that helped him out with the geometry. And so he gets a lot of flack for his
Starting point is 02:19:00 lack of math skills he was like fucking brilliant though those quotes towards like Einstein failed like fifth grade math or whatever it's just like on the same level as like MJ got cut from
Starting point is 02:19:14 his varsity like they say that like it's like I don't even think that's true he couldn't tie his shoes is what I heard well no that the MJ quote he didn't talk for like I think he was like until he was like three or something like four something like that like he didn't tell he was like a kind of a mute
Starting point is 02:19:28 the the mj thing like yeah he didn't play varsity as a freshman like they act like he got cut from the freshman team as a freshman like no no is that what i never knew the origins of that story yeah he didn't play varsity as a freshman like boo fucking who dude like we get it you take everything's the slight you see played freshman basketball that year like a freshman should he's probably still motherfucking his high school coach right now without question yes didn't he say something about him in his induction speech probably he didn't he His induction was just him roasting everyone that's not Michael Jordan. He's like, how do you assholes look yourself in the mirror each day? Not see a glowing pair of yellow eyes and a big hoopieering looking back at you and not kill yourselves. Thank you for this honor. With the leavens on. You're welcome. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:20:21 You'll make me sick. All right, but shout out to Einstein, but he did tell like Franklin Delano Roosevelt how you might want to make a nuclear weapon. otherwise, Hitler's going to bomb you. So shout out to Einstein. Stay off your cousins, though. I mean, whatever you got to do, man. You know, I don't judge. I'm going to judge free zone.
Starting point is 02:20:42 Is it, is it legal? It's not legal, is it? It's legal. The first cousin, depends on what state we're talking about. Yeah. Big T, do you know the law is about? What are they saying pigeon forge? I do not know.
Starting point is 02:20:52 I know it's illegal in Tennessee. Oh, you know. That's quick that you know that. I'm just pretty well, because in the SEC, So listen, every SEC fan base always calls other ones like, oh, you fuck your cousin. Like Tennessee says about Alabama. Alabama says it about Arkansas. They all do it to each other. The only real Arkansas probably actually does.
Starting point is 02:21:11 The other ones, it's all ridiculous. But, yeah. Is Alabama that ridiculous to assume? Yeah, it doesn't feel that ridiculous for any of them from where I'm sitting. Tennessee, Georgia, Florida is dumb. South Carolina is dumb. Alabama gets close. Closer, but Arkansas, Mississippi, you're in realistic territory.
Starting point is 02:21:33 Let's be honest, there are parts of every state in America where cousin thought that's happening. For sure. Maybe not Rhode Island. I don't see like Rhode Island feels like it's just too small. You know, like you've got too many options to it if you're in Rhode Island. I've got a lot of neighboring states. It is so small. No.
Starting point is 02:21:49 No, but you got neighboring states that you can go in. The thing is it that happens, that was happening at like the top, like it wasn't like in Rhode Island. Yeah, somebody look up for me, a notable cases of Rhode Island incest. I feel like that's the least likely state by far, actually. Billy seems like he's on the know here with some Rhode Island incest. No, no, just like, because think about it, like the same stuff as Einstein and Franklin, Delanoa Roosevelt. They're all over in Newport. Yeah, I just looking up percentage of incest, incest per state.
Starting point is 02:22:24 I, I am as well. It looks like, so the only thing I. can find is people searching for incest on the internet and that's arkansas kentucky and west virginia your top three alaska in there as well of course yeah alaska it's just everyone getting away from something this has a whole state map i'm showing it here it has a whole state map and if you just hover over a state it tells you what the legality is of it so like let's just see rhode island legal wow it's legal in rhodest legality green checkmark wait it's only legal in jersey and Rhode Island everywhere else it's not
Starting point is 02:22:58 see we were right that's definitely grandfathered in from like the Roosevelt family yeah they just know if they like made it illegal in New Jersey then like we have to we have to tear down a lot of statues at this point by the way where do we stand on on statues
Starting point is 02:23:15 in general I across the board just think statues are fucking weird it's a weird thing to do I think people take them too seriously like when people are like don't tear it down it's like do you go stare at it? But I don't, I don't think anybody does take a statue seriously. I think it's just like a, like a virtue signal kind of thing.
Starting point is 02:23:34 And it's like, nobody wakes up in the morning and be like, I'm going to go visit the statue. Right. So like you just take it down. I think it was Big T that brought up like what about like a garden of statues of noteworthy people, like a hall of was that you or somebody else? Yeah, I don't think I said that. That's more regular to me, I think, than just like putting up a. What do you mean a guard like? Like a Hall of Fame?
Starting point is 02:23:57 Yeah, like a Hall of Fame. Okay. Like, yeah, I guess what I'm describing is exactly the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Okay, sure. I'm saying I like the Pro Football Hall of Fame. But it's kind of weird if you were to just like have a statue of William the refrigerator Perry out like just on a street in Springfield, Illinois. So like the Lincoln Memorial? I mean, it's a cool design building.
Starting point is 02:24:17 And I mean, the giant thing of Abe on the chair looks cool. But like, I don't know. I'm not a statue guy. Okay. I actually like the Lincoln Memorial. Memorial way better than the Jefferson Moor. Oh, it's a thousand. Another thing that Jefferson stole.
Starting point is 02:24:29 Honestly, when the robots take over and they're going to cancel all of us through being mean to Siri. You just described the obelisk. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see those robots dancing? Yeah. At first, they was offbeat, though.
Starting point is 02:24:49 I don't know if I saw it. It was off beat, but then they got back on. I saw them white robots. That company is actively seeking. and humanity. Yeah. I just don't know what the goal is. Like, I understand experimenting and shit.
Starting point is 02:25:01 Like, what are you trying to do, man? It looks like the prototype Iron Man suits is what I saw. In the states of New Jersey and Rhode Island, incest between adults is legal. However, neither state permits marriage. In New Jersey, each person involved in the relationship must be at least 18 years old. In Rhode Island, the age of consent is 16 years old. So it turns out I unwittingly just picked the most. state as the least as an all-time fuck up on my part my bad my bad i i got to take listen good
Starting point is 02:25:33 people of tennessee especially all you guys in the middle part of the state pigeon forward shout out um i did not mean to impuging your great state with an incest joke earlier uh turns out i was the one who was wrong that's one of those prejudices i need to overcome is that i feel i felt like uh i felt like people in new england could not commit incest turns out they're the best at it In Montana and Idaho, you can receive up to a life sentence for it. That's ridiculous. I mean, I'm not advocating. It's just like, I got to go just for life because I got horny at a family reunion.
Starting point is 02:26:09 Oh, my gosh. Sneaky Massachusetts is, like, Western Mass. Yeah, I could see that. I was going to say, like, the Kennedys are pretty, even if they're not like brothers, sister. like they're a pretty incestuous clan by nature yeah yeah if you were to yeah if you were looking at the kennedy's and you're born in that family you just look around you're like wow a lot of us are really good looking yeah like no one else from boston talks like that like they got something else got to keep this hair in the house yeah yeah can't let these jeans out of the skeer pool
Starting point is 02:26:46 uh all right well yeah how do you go about determining the what the punishment should be what is that conversation even like you sit down in an assembly room somewhere and you're like so all right brother and sister fuck how much time do those people need to be locked up in a cell together like where does that conversation start because you don't want to throw out the first number because you throw out the first one the other person might be like what that's that's not harsh at all that's one where you got to go way higher than you actually think that's that's what I think that's the life sentence guy it's either that it's either that or he's actually fucking his sister And he's going to throw everybody else off.
Starting point is 02:27:24 Like, I'm the guy that said life. And who's the one reporting it? Like, who is, like, bringing them to court? I don't know. I think if you catch up, like, jealous cousin. The sad reality is most of this is, like, molestation. It's kind of sad. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:27:41 Or, like, if there's a pregnancy and then. Rang our parade with reality. We were having fun, really. Or back to the fantasy conversation, the one guy goes, life sentence. And the other guy's, like, Oh, fuck. What do you disagree? I think that's, I think that's too harsh for incest.
Starting point is 02:28:00 Like, you have some balls to say that on the record in front of people. Yeah. I'm standing my ground here. I'm not fucking my sister, but he shouldn't go to jail for life if that you choose to do. In case. And then it was a small town like, you know, Rhode Island or something, or a small state. And everybody goes home and says, so this guy objects. It's a fucking life sentences.
Starting point is 02:28:24 What a trash human being. Oklahoma couple get life in prison for incest. What kind of relations do they have? Do we call them a couple? That's a headline from 2019, CNHI News. Paul's Valley, Oklahoma couple acting on the husband's fantasies of incest. What happens? Hang on, I'm reading before I read more out loud.
Starting point is 02:28:49 you know this is a podcast right so what happens okay yeah no no yeah they they should be in prison they should be in prison it was not yeah they should be in jail do not want to say that what if you're gonna tell us why we'll tell us when the show ends oh list public information yeah people can google it if they want to but i did say the name of the outlet in the headline y'all can go look it up huh all right well love is love no that you should have said that. Yeah, you shouldn't have said that, buddy. I might have to cut that.
Starting point is 02:29:24 Big T. Where would you come down on this if Scott and Lacey Peterson were brother and sister? This, see, now we're getting so far off topic. Oh, yeah. Oh, now, now we're getting off topic. That's the line. I don't understand. I don't understand what that means.
Starting point is 02:29:40 I genuinely don't. Okay, well, I'll have to read this story that you pulled up. Anything else we got? We got sick merch. was there chemical weapons in iraq oh the as yellow journalism yeah i think that's an entire episode that we should do true is the lead up to the iraq war the wmds yeah we're gonna find them any day i referenced that earlier when i was talking about george bush i said afghanistan but i meant iraq we're going to find we're going to find those w ds any day the the only thing i had i had
Starting point is 02:30:17 the William Randolph Hurst hate in my heart ready to go as always but there like we focused a lot on print and when we talked about Rwanda we talked about radio a little bit TV
Starting point is 02:30:29 has been such a catalyst to modern yellow journalism like talking even like something as like banal as like sports like where you don't even really need yellow journalism but it's still very much exists but I think
Starting point is 02:30:46 one piece of media that people either hated or just weren't expecting Anchorman 2 does a phenomenal job explaining what happened with television news like
Starting point is 02:31:01 they fucking it came out I think while I was a journalism student so I was watching it through a little bit of a different lens and that fucking movie how they pivoted from like actual like news to well cable news now needs to be 24 hours, let's just focus on car chases and the stuff we were talking about.
Starting point is 02:31:20 Like, Angerman 2 was quietly a very brilliant movie. I agree with 1,000%. It's when entertainment gets interwoven with news. Yeah. And I need to be entertained while I'm being informed. Then the entertainment in this society, in this economic society, with capitalism being the main catalyst, profit is demotive. It's no longer the pertinent, um, action.
Starting point is 02:31:46 of the information it's all about how much money can you bring how much clip can you bring in then that will always supersede yeah the whole fucking point the whole pay scale or the the uh economics of news is completely broken right now and there's no good way to solve it i don't think because people people are going to continue to click on stories that are sensationalized that make them feel that fear that we're talking about earlier that drive them uh like further and further into their own preconceived thought of what they thought was really going on. People love to be, like, have their opinions justified by headlines and by news stories that are tailor-made almost for them at times.
Starting point is 02:32:24 And so it just makes people more and more divided. And I don't really see a way out of that, like, siloing of media. I really don't. Like, there's the only way out would be if there was, like, a billionaire like Jeff Bezos that would buy all the, or like a series of media networks or change. and then just like go live on an island somewhere with no internet connection and not run it, like not have anything to do with like the operation of it because he does, he's very interested in running them.
Starting point is 02:32:54 Well, that's what I'm saying. So like if somebody, if they were just self-funded somehow and then they just paid the best people to cover the best stories and just trust people, whereas that's it. I don't think that's it. Here's why, my G, because in this society, it's supply and demand. So people want that. That's what people want. And I always tell people all the time,
Starting point is 02:33:17 if you had a rational society, TMZ would not be a thing. Shade Room would not be a thing, right? Like these gossip outlets that are fucking eroding us, they wouldn't be a thing. But they are a thing because that's what our desires are. Our desire, we want that blood. We want to see those car chases.
Starting point is 02:33:33 We want to see those train wrecks. And so the only remedy I see is actually starts at the childhood level. Like there should be curriculum, we got out serious again, but there should be curriculum to combat how to navigate social media. Like that should be one oh, like I'm talking about like elementary teaching kids how to navigate social media, how to navigate news outlets, like all that because then they can really get taught critical thinking. And that next generation, you'll have a way more, a higher probability of kids that
Starting point is 02:34:06 understand what they're being fed and it's just garbage. and the supply of both, I mean, the demand will go down, so the supply will naturally go down in this economy. I agree with you. But now we need to figure out, like, who writes that curriculum and how it gets implemented? Republicans, of course. Well, there's, how many people do you think are qualified to write that sort of curriculum,
Starting point is 02:34:27 though? I think it's probably a pretty small amount of people, right? Well, I mean, I think that's something that should be bipartisan because suicide rates are up, depression is up, anxiety is up, That should be a bipartisan thing where we sit down together and be like, listen, this bill should be just about curriculum of social media and internet navigation for children. And we should just sit down with the best minds of the right and the best minds of the left, lock them in the room, have some raising canes on one side and Zach's on the other side and let's bang it out. Which political party do you think would have which? I said we put it in the middle.
Starting point is 02:35:05 50. Everybody gets two chicken fingers. from Keynes, two from Zaks. There you go. And then we can vote on that, which one's better? That's right. That's like the, that's the McDonald's theory all over again, but brought like closer in to American politics, Republicans and Democrats will get along if we put them in a room with fast food together. People are actually going to get upset about that too, the Raising Keynes thing. Bring it on. Definitely.
Starting point is 02:35:30 Not, I'm not just saying, it's yellow journalism. Let's make it, let's make a yellow journalism quote card from this episode that gets people really mad. and then make and then forces them to click on our podcast like big what did you say what's the most controversial thing you said about reason canes i said the chicken's not that good the sauce is which is what everybody goes there for the toast the toast is great the toast is great but the fries are you're going to go double toast everyone knows but the fries are not good and the chicken's not that great i mean we can we can steal a tyler take that always get you just say all fries are bad oh my goodness that's a shit take
Starting point is 02:36:08 a terrible take it up with your boy I'm gonna text him fuck all frieser his logic sound his logic is sound yo I you know I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna give him that so I ain't gonna bang on him too hard
Starting point is 02:36:22 until he tells me because he said some shit I think he invited me on his show one time this nigga said Abolus the NBA draft and at first I was like what the fuck is you talking about where you're a bugging but then he said the reasons as to why
Starting point is 02:36:34 I was like bro you got me let's get rid of that shit yeah no he's a logical logical human being his i'll let him explain it to you but for the people who can't reach out and text tyler um his take is that you would if like would you rather have burger and fries or burger and nuggets majority of people would be like yeah let me get those nuggets the fries are one of the worst things you can have on a typical fast food menu and a place like five guys who gives it to you by the the truck load furthers his point it's like how are they giving you
Starting point is 02:37:05 so many if they're that good like they don't give you three burgers for that price. Of course, the fries, they shovel them in there. He'll say it more eloquently via text. But his point is, like, if you compared it to McNuggets or another burger, it isn't as good. So are you saying that we're in doctrine? Well, no, but so that's, that's the cookout model. Exactly. He uses cookout a lot as an example. You go to cookout. They give you nuggets as a side. It's fantastic. So, yeah, so I think that's what he's saying, and I might have to agree with them is we're indoctrinated to having fries on the side right and we're just doing we're judging the making the best of a bad situation so like we're comparing we're not comparing
Starting point is 02:37:47 fries against nuggets we're in our minds we're comparing fries against coleslaw right right we're saying I'd rather have fries and cause I actually would rather have fries and nuggets I think because I don't know like combining beef and chicken in the same bite sometimes I don't know it just makes me feel weird. It's delightful, yeah. I mean, shit, if you take one bite of a chicken, odds are it's not the same chicken. It's probably like 13 chickens mixed in one nugget.
Starting point is 02:38:15 Also true. Yeah, that's a good point. Strengthen numbers. All right, we got anything else? People ask them about the July 4th shirts. I will be sure to get those back in the store by the end of this week. Sweet, the July 4th shirts. Not just for the 4th of July.
Starting point is 02:38:30 Just America. Cool designs. Olympic. They have frogs on. Oh, yeah. the Olympics. I'm sure that's going to go off really well. Like, everyone has COVID in Japan. No one's vaccinated.
Starting point is 02:38:44 Delta variant. I don't know. I just hear people talking about the delta variant a lot. My prediction is I don't think that the Olympics will like go on for the entire two weeks if they go on at all. Interesting. Really? Yeah. I just don't see it. They're just going to shut it all down. The country doesn't want it to be there. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:39:01 In the first place. Most countries never want the Olympics to be there. Yeah, they're basically just getting strong-armed into having the Olympics. I don't know. Just seeing a lot of bad signs out of Japan. So you can't fucking the beds like Billy taught me today. This whole thing going on there. Don't they always discourage?
Starting point is 02:39:18 No, they usually give free condoms out. They still always do. They are. They're only giving them in the givie the goodie bags this year. They're not letting them have it. I think I read that was wrong also. But I'm not. Can you not like just buy condoms?
Starting point is 02:39:34 and then bring them with you? This is like a college dorm room, like candy bowl type act. Yeah, you can just go grab. All right. Tell you what, if there's any Olympians listening to me right now, I will buy you condoms. I will be your condom guy. And I'm just going to send you a note that says, like, don't wrap it up, pussy. Or like the beds, I think I saw, the beds can support 440 pounds.
Starting point is 02:39:58 So just find like really, really light athlete. Or just, yeah, just normal sized athletes even. Two normal size athletes. So it just depends what sport your plan. Shot putters. Shot putters. Probably fine. But like two gymnasts any day.
Starting point is 02:40:11 If you throw the shot putt, you might want to try to size down just to discus throw her. Or like a long jumper. And then you'll fall under the requirements. I mean, you know, it's not talking about enough. How fucking dumb the steeple chase is.
Starting point is 02:40:25 Yeah. A lot of it's dumb. A lot of the Olympics are dumb. Yeah, 100%. Like, javelin's pretty stupid too. I think javelin's actually pretty cool. Nicky you're throwing a stick You're throwing a spear
Starting point is 02:40:38 That like has like like application Okay A spear is a spear is a sharp stick I'm saying matter of fact Most of the Olympics are pretty fucking dumb Trash Beach volleyball is the best one But throwing a spear was like
Starting point is 02:40:55 Like if you could throw a spear Like they throw a spear like a hunt like a thousand years ago Like you were like a boss These spears are de-weaponized though They're like they've become a piece of sporting equipment. I don't even think that you can kill anybody with them. If you look,
Starting point is 02:41:08 it's just like they did with the guns. People die at track meets. All the time. All the time? Yeah, they get hit by discus. All the time. Oh, discus,
Starting point is 02:41:16 that's a real weapon. Yeah. I got, I had a coach in high school who, um, who my girlfriend at the time had a sister who, uh, was just throwing a shot put and hit my coach in the head and fucked him up.
Starting point is 02:41:31 Like he was really never the same. Jeez. Like it was a real. They're heavy as fuck. They made me throw all three in high school. Terrible at javelin. Only did that once. Really good at discus, not to brag.
Starting point is 02:41:43 Horrible at shot, but just so fucking heavy. Like, who's throwing? Like, it's way too heavy. Yeah. I mean, I think we can get rid of 80% of the Olympics events. Yeah. Like, strong. Like, who won the last javelin gold?
Starting point is 02:42:03 I only paid to. the javelin if there's an American that's about to win the decathlon and then I'm like oh that's one of the things that this person's better than me at I mean I just remember uh Brad Pitt and Troy hitting a dude with a spear and I was just like whoa yeah it was pretty nice that was sick that's what you that's what you think of when you think of the javelin throw when you see somebody throwing January like fucking Troy but he didn't even throw that he like he jumped past him and stabbed him right oh no you're right you're right hit him in front of the temple yep yep you're right my mistake another dude hit him with an archery in the foot yeah in game yeah archery is way
Starting point is 02:42:44 cooler than javelin i'll say archery archery is actually fire we can keep archery yeah arian what would you keep i would keep archery i would keep all the all the track and field events except steep with chase um and i don't think i'd keep javelin um i think disc and shot puts are you know that's a field event though It's good. So? So you said keep all the track and field events. He meant like the running aspect.
Starting point is 02:43:10 Yeah, I went to run an aspect. The track. The track of the tracking field. All right, nigger. That's what I'm saying. Running in a straight line, stupid. Bro.
Starting point is 02:43:20 No, it's not. No, the fastest human being on earth is. Speed cells. I guarantee you can name four or five Olympic gold medalist 100 meter dash, like 100%. Like, it's just a better, like when you say, I don't know if you have a ability to a. track meet. But when you're like, y'all, I'm going to the track meet, nobody went to go watch
Starting point is 02:43:37 the steeplechase or the high jump or the whatever, maybe the high jump, but like the, the, what's the, what's the, the pole vault, right? Nobody went to watch. Povovote, that's too. So dumb. What that's what I'm saying. Like, nobody, nobody went to go watch that. You went to go watch the 100, the 200, the 400, right? Those were the, those were the ticket sellers. Like, that's the attraction of the Olympics and the attractions of track and field, per se. The field is just comes with it. We need to get rid of most of, like, the boring ones and have more, like, what I'm trying to say is Carmel and Anthony should have more medals. Like, there should have been one-on-one, two-on-two, like.
Starting point is 02:44:16 Three-point shoot-out. Yeah, all of it. Like, there's no reason. And they have three-on-three now, but it's not like it's different rule. Like, no one's ever played the type of three-on-three they have in the Olympics. It's very strange rule. Like, as soon as the ball goes in, you just clear it and go. Like, no, check up.
Starting point is 02:44:32 Everyone knows how to play three-on-three. and the entire fucking planet. There's no reason to make it different now. They play two baskets? No. They got to hoop it up for the Olympics? Yeah, they got three on three. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 02:44:45 It's chaos. When you say clear it and go, like, just take it out past the three point line? The ball goes through the net. I think you have three seconds before it's a turnover. You have to get the ball. If you're on the other team, the team that didn't make it, you have to get it, clear it. There's no checking it. You just go.
Starting point is 02:45:01 The second it's cleared, you can pass it right back to the dude. it under the hoop and he can score. See, that sounds like a, that sounds like a P.E. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds like I was playing in my driveway. And honestly sounds exhausting. It is.
Starting point is 02:45:13 It's fucking, I, Red Bull had an event at Barclays, and for some reason I was invited to go try it out. Like, and I was gasped. What's the jump where they, where they scrub the ice? Curling, curling.
Starting point is 02:45:24 Curling. Get it out of here. Oh, no. Bad tech. All business feet's going to be furious. Who won gold in 96? Curling. Just juiced up Russians.
Starting point is 02:45:37 I'm going to guess Finland. I could tell you, in 96, I think it was Mory's Green. It was a Mory's Green. 200 and 400, Michael Johnson won the gold in 96. It just, you remember it more. Like, it just matters. By the way, Colie earlier, you said nobody ever wants the Olympics. The one city that did, sold it sold to get the Olympics was Atlanta,
Starting point is 02:45:55 and we haven't won shit since, and that's why. Yeah. Beijing, the Beijing Olympics is pretty insane. China wanted that one. You can see that. For sure. Most people, I mean, they were trying to get it to Boston a few years ago,
Starting point is 02:46:08 like the smallest city in America. And like our mayor and governor were like, please, we need the, and every single person who lived here was like, we will raid your homes if you get the Olympic. Like, this will not end well for you.
Starting point is 02:46:22 They should do it like some small town, like fucking South Dakota. What was that like Lily? Lilliehammer is tiny? Yeah, winter Olympics. They're usually not necessarily in big. Lake classes. the coolest place I've ever been.
Starting point is 02:46:35 I love Lake Plasb. So awesome. They just dropped the Jeff Bezos astronaut picture of everyone going to space with him. And Jeff Bezos has serious HGH jaw growth. All right. I'm serious. I like how everybody on that space mission in the picture is like their body is aligned towards Jeff. Like he's very much the centerpiece of it.
Starting point is 02:46:59 Everyone must show the difference. How much did they have to pay to go on that? Jeff is juice to the gills I love it That's one thing that we should do Spread the word When Jeff Bezos comes back from space Just everyone pretend like you don't know who he is
Starting point is 02:47:16 He's got to be the easiest To rob person of all time right now, right? Yeah Yes Absolutely Why? Because he's in space? Yeah Yeah, what if we just like
Starting point is 02:47:30 While he was away It was just like You know guys you're going to do that wealth redistribution he's out of the house the cats away we're drinking all of his booze
Starting point is 02:47:40 his dad's gone we're just going to do this one guy and then we're starting again yeah you're right bill he does look juiced up yeah I don't trust him because you can tell it to one side of his face who's saying they saw him wasn't like roan saying he saw him
Starting point is 02:47:57 hey give me your top 10 Billy next episode give me your top 10 dudes that is juicing but never got caught in the NFL. True, true. This is an interesting fact from a guy, Neil deGrasse Tyson. The net worth of Jeff Bezos is about $200 billion. A stack of that many dollar bills would reach twice as high as his Blue Origins rocket launch. So it sounds to me like old Neil here is saying that Jeff is going to fake space,
Starting point is 02:48:25 like not actually an astronaut. If I'm reading between the lines a little bit, might be some beef going on there. Yeah, Neil, what's interesting to me about him is, like, you can tell he's, like, really left-leaning atheist, but he will never go out in public and say that. Like, he's never told me that personally, but, like, I just, you could just tell me he just won't say that shit publicly because, like, he'll lose, like, anytime you, like, are a character and you take a side in anything political, you lose fans. I don't think he wants to do that. Neil, Neil, come on the show. Come out of a closet, Neil. Come on macrodosing, Neil.
Starting point is 02:49:05 I would actually like to talk to him on this show. We had him on part of my take a while ago. He was fascinating, but we'd like to talk to him again. That's my guy. All right. Anything else? Follow us on TikTok at Macrodosing Podcast. There you go.
Starting point is 02:49:20 What color is big keys underwear? Black. If you don't get it this time, we got to let it go for a little bit. Yeah. Oh, is that black? It's black. It's black or blue? No, it's black.
Starting point is 02:49:32 It's black. He's got my blue undies. Last week I got it right, too. You know what I mean? Oh, that's right. I forgot about that. Yeah. All right, so we're two in a row now.
Starting point is 02:49:41 I think that's how we started, too. I think you got two in a row, didn't get one for like 15 weeks and then two in a row again. Yeah, that's true. All right, guys, we will see you guys next week. As always, DM us, tell us that we're handsome. And if you have any criticism, if you have any feedback for us, let us know on there. Just be polite about it. Send it to Billy.
Starting point is 02:50:00 Don't send it to me. Yeah, Billy will read all of it. And if you want to be a macrodosing athlete. Oh, that's right. Yeah. If you want to be a macrodosing athlete, let us know. But again, we are looking for an athlete at the University of Tennessee that's big time fuck the system guy or girl. And prefer, he said preferably African American, right?
Starting point is 02:50:19 Yeah, brother or a sister. All right. Well, we'll get hot on the trail of that. Love you guys. Hmm. Mm. Mm. Oh.
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