Marketing Secrets with Russell Brunson - Entrepreneurial Mastery: Q&A Session from the “One Funnel Away Challenge”

Episode Date: June 26, 2024

Recently I started doing Q&A sessions for active ClickFunnels users. To help me out, I've been teaming up with Dante Torelli almost weekly to tackle some of the most pressing questions from our incredible community. Usually this kind of direct Q&A was only available in 10k per month masterminds, but now as part of our revamped One Funnel Away Challenge, we're offering you a front-row seat to hear my insights and strategies on building and scaling your online business. In this episode, Dante and I cover a wide range of topics that are crucial for entrepreneurs at every stage. From managing diverse membership levels to mastering the art of the perfect webinar, we provide you with actionable advice to help you succeed. Key Highlights: Managing Membership Levels: Discover effective strategies for handling memberships with participants at different skill levels. Perfect Webinar Framework: Learn the secrets to teaching and implementing the perfect webinar style for maximum impact. Q&A Dynamics: Find out how to get the most value from live Q&A sessions tailored for both e-commerce and expert-based businesses. One Funnel Away Challenge: Get an inside look at our new 10-day e-commerce and expert challenges, and learn about the benefits of joining our weekly live calls. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting your journey, this episode is packed with the tools and knowledge you need to make a significant impact. Tune in and get ready to take your business to the next level! Don't forget to check out this awesome deal from Mint Mobile! https://mintmobile.com/funnels And if you want to enjoy the Marketing Secrets Show ad-free, check out http://marketingsecrets.com/adfree Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome back to the Marketing Secrets Podcast. All right, we started doing something really, really cool that, first off, you need to be part of. And if you're not part of it, I want to plug you into it because it's just too good to miss. So we recently relaunched the One Funnel Away Challenge. Those who have been in my world or my community for a long time, you know this has been a program, our flagship program now for five plus years. We first launched it, it was $100 to join. It was a

30-day coaching program. It was amazing. And then I think we've refilmed like four or five times over the years. Just new updates and tweaks, trying to make it better and better and better for people. It keeps getting better and better and better. And over the last four or five times over the years, just new updates and tweaks, trying to make it better and better and better for people and keeps getting better and better and better. And over the last four or five years, I think we've had 170,000 people have paid $100 to be part of the challenge, which is insane and cool and exciting. So thank you all for being part of it if you were part of it in the past. But something new has happened with ClickFunnels. I don't know if you have been watching or noticing, but we are starting to do a lot more stuff in the e-commerce space and having a ton of success with it. It's fun. And as I was talking to

the person in our community, who's had the most success with e-commerce funnels, AKA Mr. Trey Llewellyn, I messaged Trey and actually he messaged me initially and was like, Hey, how can I get back to this community? And I was like, what if we redid the one funnel way challenge? What if we made it simpler? What if we, cause in the past I've always've always tried to do where it's like i'm trying to convince people like here's a funnel type and here's how if you're e-com you can make it work if you're expert you can make it work but it's always like trying to like mush these things together into like some like i'm trying to like you know it's like jamming around peg in a square hole right it's like yes but they tweak it a little bit for this and it was just it was always hard to train so it's like what if we did two versions

people can come in and they can pick which one they want. And if they're into e-commerce, they can do e-commerce and expert, expert. Then we get Trey, who's the greatest e-com funnel builder on the planet. He's teaching how to do e-commerce ones. And you have me who, I don't want to say that I'm the greatest, um, you know, trainer of experts and info product people on the planet, but you know, you know, it sounds like I just said it. All right. I'll take, I'll take, I'll give myself credit for that. I don't know if it's true or not, but I definitely am the person who's most passionate about it, I think. So, um, and so basically what happened is Trey built a 10 day, uh, e-commerce one funnel challenge. I built a 10 day expert one funnel way

challenge and it's amazing. And right now, if you go to one funnel way.com, you can literally get it for a hundred bucks and it gives you three months of ClickFunnels for free, which is insane. If you're already a ClickFunnels member, it means you already got it. You just got to log the members there and it's there. So the challenge is cool. But then what's even cooler is Trey was like, dude, we can't just do a challenge and leave people alone. Let's like, let's do live calls with them every single week. And at first I was like, but I don't want to do live calls every single week. And then Trey like twisted my arm. And so we've committed at least the next 90 days to do a call every week. And Trey's like, he told me, he's like,

I'm doing this for as long as you're willing to do it. So right now we're doing it, we're competing, we're having fun. So anyway, so basically every single week I do a live Q&A call and Trey does a live Q&A call. He's doing it with the e-com people, I'm doing it with the expert people. And I thought, wouldn't it be cool for me

just on this podcast each week to pull some of the Q and A's so you guys can listen to some of them. We've done it now for two weeks and the questions have been so good and the answers have been amazing. And just, I want everybody in our community listening in on these because they're really, really powerful and good. And so many things we're addressing in different angles and just different than a traditional podcast and traditional podcasts. I'm like, here's the direction that I run with it. This is like, you're getting, you know, five or six different questions and answers in a day. And they're amazing. So number one is go get your questions answered and go into the one funnel challenge. Again, if you're an active ClickFunnels member, just log in the members area and boom,

the call schedule is there. You can go register, be part of it. And if you're not an active ClickFunnels member yet, first off, you're crazy. You must hate money. Only logical explanation. Number two is go get signed up. Again, it's a hundred bucks and you get three months of ClickFunnels for free. You just got to go to onefunnelway.com. Anyway, with that said, there's a big preface to let you know that I'm going to start posting some of the Q&A sessions here that are good. So that's what this episode is. This is the very first kickoff of the One Funnelway Challenge Q&A sessions. It starts with Dante, who's kind of the co-host, or he's the host that kind of runs these. He gave me a

really long introduction, but there's some cool things in the introduction, so I'm going to leave it in. So you hear Dante give the introduction, and then we do some Q&As. I try to drop some bombs at the very beginning, some knowledge bombs, hopefully some things that will help you along the journey. And then number two, then we switch over and do Q&A, and I hope you enjoy it. So with that said, this is the first ever One Funnel Away Q&A episode of the Marketing Secrets Podcast. In the last decade, I went from being a startup entrepreneur to selling over a billion dollars in my own products and services online. This show is going to show you how to start, grow and scale a business online. My name is Russell Brunson and welcome to the Marketing

Secrets Podcast. Good morning, good evening, good afternoon, ClickFunnels family. It depends on where you're watching from today, but we are so glad to be with you. My name is Dante Torelli and I'm going to be your host and your coach for the One Funnel Away Challenge. I've been working at ClickFunnels for just under seven years and I've been coaching our challengers for a majority of that. Over my time, I've seen everything, literally, from the self-cure for foot fungus to selling airplanes, Bigfoot tours to socks with tacos on them, high-volume low-profit to low-volume high-profit, camping to glamping, and everything in between. When I first found ClickFunnels seven years ago, gang, I was technologically incompetent. I know, I say it in a funny way, like, ha, ha, ha, gang, I was technologically incompetent. I know I say it in a funny way,

like, ha ha ha, Dante, you're so funny. No, truly, I was technologically incompetent. I couldn't even save browser bookmarks. Hyperlinking text? Not a chance. If I downloaded somebody's lead magnet off the internet, I had to call my brother across the country and say, where is this file on my computer? I also wasn't knowledgeable about business and marketing. It's not because I was lazy. See, I was attending all the boring business conferences where a dude in a wrinkly tie gets up on stage and says, today we're going to talk about your customers. How many customers do you have in your business? I was trying to learn. I was trying to find the information, but it just wasn't resonating with me until I found Russell. The way he said things made so much more sense. It resonated with me like never before. And the best decision I have ever made in my life was to say yes to Russell. Funnels and his teachings have transformed every aspect of my life. Hey, we have tons of time to talk about my story over the next coming weeks, months, or years. This challenge, this next 90 days is all about you gang, the dreamers and the

doers, the ones who not only have great ideas, but the courage to chase those ideas and make them reality. The square pegs in the round holes, our funnel hackers, the ones who don't say why can't I, but instead, how can I? And with us for this journey is the squarest of pegs in the roundest of holes, Mr. Russell Brunson. Now, before I bring Russell out, let me ask you a quick question. How many of us look at Russell like a spark? We may have seen Russell speaking at an event or we may have found him on social media like I did. But before we found Russell, we never thought we would have a business or step into the world of entrepreneurialism. Absolutely not.

We may have said things like, no, that's a world, but it's not the world I live in. And for you, Russell and his work over the last decade has ignited a fire inside of you that's changing not only your life, but your person as well. And if that's you, I'd love for you to put a one in the chat for me. But you may be the adverse. You may be the one who's had a fire lit inside of you your entire life. You may have always felt the pull to business ownership and entrepreneurialism. You have always been more than happy to work 80 hours a week and get paid last. And for you, Russell has been a catalyst, fanning the flame. Russell has woken up morning after morning, day after day, constantly pushing himself so he can grow, constantly trying new things to innovate just so he can share it all with us and we can grow without having to suffer

and cycle like he's had to. If you're that person, I'd love for you to put a two in the chat for me. When I wanted to become a business owner, do you think I went back to college and invested four years to learn these things? Absolutely not. I just did what so many before me have done and so many after will continue to do. I just did what Russell said and funnel hacked everything along the way. I implore you to do the same. Over these next 10 days,

we do what Russell says. Gang, we are thrilled to have you here with us in the expert track of the One Funnel Away Challenge. This next 10 days will be jam-packed with learning and implementation. And as we bark on this journey together, I want to remind you of a quote that served me well over the years. Great captains don't come from great seas. There's always gigantic waves. There's always a windstorm. There's always a mountain. There's always a hurdle.

That's the universe telling you, testing you. That's the universe testing you, gang. And you know what's going to happen at some point. You know that it's coming down the line. So let's mentally prepare for that. And when you see the wave coming at you, remember, great captains don't come from calm seas. And I promise you will be a great captain. Now, if you don't know Russell's story or how much impact he's had on the very world that we live in here today, allow me to Bob Ross a picture for you. Russell, like most 10 year olds, was

absolutely obsessed. Only, Russell didn't obsess over dinosaurs or cars. He obsessed over direct mail campaigns. Do you remember running home from school to get to the mailbox so you could see if your new package or letter was delivered? Well, Russell did the same thing, except he ran to the mailbox to see the new direct mail campaigns that came in. Some moms have to deal with hockey sticks a-strewing everywhere. Poor Miss Brunson had to deal with direct mail scattered everywhere. I don't know about you guys, but if I'm betting on someone to grow up into a marketing legend, I'm putting my chips on the kids sitting in a pile of direct mail and watching infomercials

on Saturday morning. From there, Russell went straight to implementing the things he'd been learning over the years. He was in college studying marketing and pursuing a championship as a wrestler, but that's not all that he was doing. He was putting to practice the information he'd acquired up till that point. Do you guys remember Russell's spam story? Where you heard his mentor say, for every one person on your list, you should expect a dollar a month. So Russell says, oh my gosh, that means all I need to do is get a list. And wouldn't you know it, he finds a company that

just so happens to sell lists with over a million people on them. That company was called spamfreeemails.com. So Russell buys the list, hurries home and tells his wife, Colette, Colette, you can go quit your job. I just figured out the secret to a million dollars. Colette, in all her wisdom, kind of chuckles and says, OK, sure, and heads off to work, leaving Russell to do his thing. From here, Russell starts scrambling to put together all the pieces he needs to connect and make this work. He buys the email address. He connects the email address to his software. He goes into the software to write the email. He gets the entire list uploaded after a couple tries because,

after all, that's the first time we're uploading a list and we've never heard of a CSV file. So finally, after a couple of weeks, Russell gets everything connected and finalized and he sends out his first email. Now, back in those days, it wasn't the internet that we know today. You basically had to cut off everything to your entire house. You couldn't use any other phones. It was just dial-up internet. And Russell had been sending emails for just a few short hours when Colette had to make a phone call. So Russell says, no, no, no, no, no, Colette, we can't do that right now. I'm sending out the emails. We're making a million dollars right now. But Colette wins and Russell has to go under the desk and unplug the internet so that she can make her phone call. Well, as soon as he plugs the phone back in, it rings. He hits his head on the desk

trying to answer the phone. He picks it up and says, hello. On the other end of the line is his internet service provider who is absolutely livid. He asked Russell, why are you sending out all these emails and what are you doing? So Russell says, I'm just sending an email out to my email addresses. Man on the other end of the line says, well, where did you get those email addresses man on the other end of the line says well where did you get those email addresses from russell says no no no this is fine i got these emails from a website it's called spam free emails.com the internet service provider responds sir that is the exact definition of spam needless to say colette went into work that day as well so russell had to stop his sending and hope that his dial-up internet didn't get shut down. But he went back later and he looked at his stats. Something amazing happened. He was only able to sell to a very small portion of his list,

but he saw a sale. And Russell sat there, not focusing on the negatives, which were all around him swarming. He focused on the positives, which were much harder to see. He starts doing the math and he says, well, if this many people received the email and I got the email to go to the entire list, I would have made this much monies and I would have had this many sales. And that was a turning point. That is where Russell realized this is possible. I can do this. It wasn't just something someone said anymore. It was tangible. We could feel it. Russell had continued to do this over and over and over throughout his life and his career, from potato guns to becoming the world's highest paid speaker to owning his own successful software company, constantly gaining knowledge and putting it to practice. I am so grateful for Russell's heart of service, for his determination to never stop, regardless of how difficult things may get, for his unyielding commitment to us. I really want to impress upon you the life-changing

opportunity that you are now a part of. We all know you could have had lunch with Russell at any time we wanted to. We also know the price tag that comes along with that. I want to help frame your mind so you can fully understand and embrace the opportunity that is in front of us today. Gang Russell doesn't have to be here. Russell wants to be here. And every single Friday at 12 PM Eastern standard time, you're basically going to be having lunch with the Russell Brunson, where he's going to teach you how to take the

things you are knowledgeable about, the things you are passionate about, and turn them into a business. So without further ado, let me bring out the man we are all here for today. I know you may not have been expecting it, but turn on your cameras and let me see you go, crazy gang, for our fearless leader, our purveyor of information, author of the revolutionary books, dot-com secrets, expert secrets, traffic secrets, unlock the secrets, a New York Times bestselling author, the dreamer who sold a vision, the doer who made it a reality, the revolutionizer of so many industries, the one who answered his calling and created the ripple effect that has touched so many people around the world. The man we all know and love funnel hackers go crazy and join me in welcoming the experts, expert, the entrepreneurs, entrepreneur, Mr. Russell Brunson. That is the greatest introduction in the history of all time.

I'm like blushing over here when we have the russell here we're rolling out all the red carpets come on oh man dante thank you man you got like we set the tone we set the pace you guys ready to have some fun today if you are i can see you all so wave your hands at me i want to see i want to see y'all oh man this is so exciting well dude i'm pumped I'm pumped for this. I'm excited as you guys, as you're probably finding out now, a couple of months ago, we decided like we should,

excuse me, we should redo the one funnel wave challenges, but with two different focuses, one on people who want to do e-com businesses and one that want to do expert businesses. And as you guys know, my passion, I'm obsessed with helping people in the expert business, right?

I believe that my calling is to gather people who are gatherers of people, right? Every one of you guys have been called to serve a group of people and you're gathering them so you can serve them, you can change their lives. And my job is to gather the gatherers. And so I was like, I want to focus there. And then I saw Trey at a mastermind

and Trey was like, I want to give back to the community. What can I do? I was like, this is going to be the thing. And so we kind of planned it out, planned out the challenges. And then Trey was like, what if we went live every single week and just like change their lives and answer their questions and get them unstuck?

I was like, dude, we don't even do that for like our high-end coaching programs. He's like, it doesn't matter. Let's blow their minds. And so we started doing that. So this is the first week. And I heard Trey's call on Tuesday. Trey's every Tuesday, right? Or Wednesday, Tuesday.

Correct. Tuesdays. Every Tuesday. I heard Tuesday's call was insane. People were going crazy about it. And so now I just got to one-up what Trey did because I can't lose to Trey Llewellyn. Come on now. If I do, that's not going to make me look good.

He will never let me level it down. But anyway, I'm excited. This is the first time we're doing this. And I'm sure it's going to morph and shift as we kind of do these things to make sure that we're kind of serving you guys at the highest level. But like Dante said, I want to look forward to Fridays. We all jump on here and come up, come with your questions, come with your ideas. Um, I'm going to try to like drop some gold and some ideas every single day for you guys. And then we'll open for some Q and A's and, and, uh, and then, and that, that Dante is going to take, take it back over. And, uh, if you

guys don't know Dante yet, this was your first introduction. He's amazing. And one of like, it's funny when, when people go and they post reviews about ClickFunnels online, they typically think they're going to post reviews about ClickFunnels, but all the reviews are always like, Dante's the greatest teacher ever. Dante's the best. Like all the reviews are about Dante, not ClickFunnels. So, so if you love ClickFunnels, you're gonna love Dante because he's like the heart and soul over here doing some really cool stuff and excited to have him with you guys with these calls and the trainings and your good hands with him. And, man, he told my story better than I did. So I don't even know if I should even be here.

I mean, it's just funny to hear Dante's talk the whole time. Like I'm kind of, you know, who knows? Anyway, so I was going to start for just a few minutes and just kind of share my ideas with you guys on a couple of things. And then we'll open up some Q&A. More so just because I want to just kind of kick this off and kick it off in a way that I thought would be important, especially here in the expert track. And I'm curious right now, how many of you guys, if you are here today, is like you're at the beginning of this and you're just trying to figure things out. If you're at the beginning startup phase, raise your hand. I want to see where we are there. Okay, cool. How many of you guys are like, you've got a funnel live, it's making some sales, but you're trying to figure out how to grow it.

How many of you guys are that stage right now? Okay. And how many of you guys are like, we got a business that's crushing it, but I want to go from like two comic club to two comic club X and beyond. Like how many of you guys are there? Okay. We got people all three stages, which is awesome. So what I want to start with, though, is just I think the biggest thing that holds people back from having success. It's interesting. When I first got into this role and doing this stuff, I always thought my job was to get people. Here's the idea you got to go and run with, right? And so, again, I've written three books with every idea I possibly got.

I've made frameworks and ideas, and I give I give those people, but like, what's interesting, we actually have a chance to talk to one-on-one. It's a Dante's got in there too. Boom. You don't have your box set, but come on now. Like everything I've ever said is in these books, like distill down to like their, their, the most basic frameworks. If you guys got these, if you don't have them, there we go.

I saw someone, Andrew grabbed hers. Who else has got, uh, Sue Hill's got theirs. All right. You guys got this. So this is like, this is the doctrines. This grabbed? Sue Hill's got theirs. All right. You guys got this. So this is like, this is the doctrines. This is all the stuff you got to learn to really understand. Right. And then there's like the principles, how we implement these things specifically for

your businesses. There you go. Holly's got her expert secrets. Thank you guys. Andrew's got the linchpin. Lucas has got a little expert secrets. But the thing I've noticed is like the hardest for people to do is not so much like the implementation of the ideas.

Like that's like the easier part. The harder part is like for people to believe that like they can do it. How many of you struggle with that? That's almost every time I open up the Q&A calls, almost every single time when we do this, like our bigger coaching groups, people are like, how do you overcome imposter syndrome? Like that's always the one that most people struggle with. And most people have the harder thing. Like the tactics and the techniques aren't really that difficult. It's like, put up a page. Okay. Click through all these easy. Like there's some pages and it's like,

now you got to make a video to sell. It's like, okay, I get on the camera. And like, but the thing that like holds people back is not the tactic, the strategy, the tactics, it's usually the belief in themselves. And so I wanted to come here and just kind of kick this, this session and like this whole new, you know, us going live every week, helping you guys just like helping us understand that I don't know how to explain this, like how to make this more passionate. Like I'm on the other side with so many people who are like you guys who have gone through this process who now are on the other side of it. And most of the people still struggle with imposter syndrome. That part doesn't go away. You do these things other side of it. And most of the people still struggle with imposter syndrome. That part doesn't go away. You do these things in spite of that.

But the secret is like, it's getting away from yourself and focusing on like who you've been called to serve. Like who are you supposed to be helping? One of my favorite examples, a lot of you guys have probably heard me tell stories about Annie Grace. But Annie is in the alcohol addiction industry. She wrote a book called This Naked Mind.

It's amazing. But she's someone who struggled with alcohol addiction industry. She wrote a book called This Naked Mind. It's amazing. But she's someone who struggled with alcohol addiction herself. And then she tried the traditional ways to break it and couldn't do it. And then she started learning about NLP and subconscious mind, all this kind of stuff. And she created this whole book and this course and stuff to help people overcome that, right? And now she's, you know, New York Times bestselling author. She's been like, this week she was like, she was on the Today Show. And then she was on Good Morning America.

She's like, she's all over the news everywhere. She's got millions of people's lives. She's been like this week, she was like, she was on the today show. And then she's on good morning America. She's like, she's all over the news everywhere. She's got millions of lives. She's changed her life. She's got people, you know, breaking the chains of alcohol addiction. She's like saved families and marriages, all sorts of stuff. And when I talked to her one on one, she's still like, like, who am I to do this? Like, why was I the one that called to do this thing? Like, it doesn't make any sense. And anytime you get to the spot where you're like, thinking like, why am I doing this? Like what, like when you're pointing back to yourself, that's where you're going to struggle. Right. Um, if I'm completely honest, like before we jumped on live here, like my anxiety was coming, I'm like, Oh my gosh, like I was nervous. I'm like, I still have the same

anxiety. People like Russell, like when does that go away? I'm like, I don't know. So far for me, it hasn't, you know, for any, it hasn't for other people to talk to. It doesn't necessarily go away. But the thing you had to focus on is like, is when the nervousness comes, when you're focusing on like, on you, like, what if I talk too fast? What if I talk too slow? What if I, my makeup doesn't look right? What if this, what, like those kinds of like, all those fears are all internal. And the only way to break free of that is you shift it from like, this is me trying to figure out how to do this thing to like, these are the people I'm supposed to serve. And when you like shift that transition to like, okay, these are the people I'm supposed to gather. I'm supposed to serve them.

And if you take the pressure off yourself and more put the pressure on like, how do I help these people? Like that's when the shifts happen. Because for whatever reason, at least for me so far, the nerves don't go away. The imposter syndrome is good. Those things don't go away. But they, when you shift the focus from like, okay, I've got to like, I've got to perform. I got to do this thing to like, okay, these are the people I'm supposed to serve today.

How do I show up for them? How do I help them? Like right now we've got 124 of you guys who are live right now with us. I'm sure replays will probably get another, you know, three or 4,000 to listen to this. But, um, for you guys live, like the only thing that matters to me right now is this moment, like right now, like I'm called for this. Like there's someone here that I'm hoping I can share one thing with and like, you'll have a chance to go and run with it. Uh, and you'll change the group. Like you'll change lives of a whole group of people, right?

And the same thing is true for you. It's interesting. Annie, I'm actually, I'm having Annie. She doesn't speak at Funnel Hacking Live this year. If you guys don't have your tickets yet, you need to be there. It's going to be amazing. But anyway, Annie's going to talk at Funnel Hacking Live.

She has this principle that she shared with me. I'm going to share this with you guys and then we'll open up Q&As. But she talked about the whole concept of a funnel, right? And when you first hear about funnels, it's so exciting. There's a million people concept of a funnel, right? And, uh, where when you first hear about funnels, so excited, there's a million people online and then, you know, a hundred thousand, see your ad and 10,000 click, and then a thousand, give your email and then a hundred buy. And then like, you get to, you work these people. Right. And for her, she was like

talking about her mission. She's like, my mission is so big. I'm helping people overcome alcohol addiction. It's like, it's so thing. And she's like, she's like the funnel thing always was actually depressing for her. Cause she's like, there's a million people I need to serve, but for the million, only a hundred thousand clicks only, you know, she's like, she's like, the funnel thing always was actually depressing for her. Cause she's like, there's a million people I need to serve. But from the million, only a hundred thousand click. Only, you know, she's like, I only can help these few. And she's like, it was like the spot where she was like just sick to her stomach. Like there's so many more people that, um, that I can and should be helping. And the funnel thing actually was sad to her.

And then one day she had this epiphany and she said, if you look at like, uh, in the Bible, it talks about, um, the, the parable of the sower, right? And the sower takes these seeds and cast the seeds. And like some of the seeds get eaten, eaten up by the birds and some like fall in like, in like stony ground and they don't get, you know, whatever. But he's like, but some of the seeds, a small percentage of seeds, they land in fertile ground and they grow up and they, and they reproduce tenfold and a hundredfold and a thousandfold.

And she's like, when I realized that, she's like, I realized the funnel is not a funnel. The funnel is an hourglass. It comes down here. It comes down. It's coming down. Boom. And then there's this percentage of people who turn around and it becomes this hourglass of the impact and the change in people's lives you'd have.

And so for me, like I wanted to instill out to you guys just to kick this off and just understand like, like we're talking about funnels, but the reality is like you guys are creating an hourglass. You're going out there into the world. You're casting these wide nets, bringing people in. You're trying to change lives, trying to serve them. And unfortunately, everyone who comes to you, you're not gonna have a chance to change their lives, right?

Like we've got a hundred thousand people in click funnels, 125 of you showed up today, right? Like, like you guys are at the bottom of the bottom of the funnel, part of the hourglass. Like you're the ones who, if you take the stuff and you plant these, like they're in solid fertile soil, you know, you get the right, you get the right nutrients and the sunlight and the water, which is all the stuff that OFA and the books, all that kind of stuff, right? You're the ones who will bloom and reproduce tenfold, a hundredfold, a thousandfold and beyond. And so I want you guys to think about that. Like you guys are like, you are the hourglass. Like

my goal for you guys is I want to be able to like, to, to nurture you guys and feed into you guys and give you guys that success because you're the ones who can change the world. And I look at just, you know, Annie's just one example. I'm sure I'll share a different example, different person every time we jump on here. But with Annie, it's like, like her learning this process and building funnels and launching these things, like millions of people have been affected because of one, one seed, one person who came into my world. And I'm not sure which one of you guys are gonna be that next seed that you plant, you change a million people's lives. But like, that's why I'm here. That's why I'm showing up.

I don't need to be here. I wanna be here. I wanna find the next seeds that we can plant and it can reproduce 10 fold, 100 fold, 1,000 fold and change more people's lives. Cause that's how my mission gets affected. Dante actually boxed me this morning. He's like, how many people,

like he was talking about this ripple effect. How many people like have got ClickFunnels? And from there, how many jobs are created? And from there, how many are like in this whole ripple effect, right? We're talking about, you know know the people have click funnels so think about a hundred thousand members right if each person's got like two two and a half employees which i think is low but maybe the average is that's that's like what 250 000 jobs

were created and you think about the jobs like each of those people now have companies and they're helping their customers and again some are like annies we've got you know a million customers some have maybe 10 customers or 50 but like you look at the next tier of the ripple effect like 250 000 you know gatherers and then they're affecting let's say just 10 people now we're like what 2.5 million people and then if those people's lives get changed right for annie like someone overcomes alcohol addiction they show up as a better father better mother better better spouse like that affects their family if they got three kids on average, like their kids are better. And then their kids like,

and it's like this ripple effect just keeps going like crazy. And so I'm here today just to like, to like start smashing in the water to create ripples. And I'm hoping you guys will take the ripple effect and keep it going. And just understanding that for you guys, it's the same thing, right? You're in a funnel, you're finding your people,

you're gonna change life with whatever message you've been blessed with. And then you're gonna watch as like that ripple effect changes their lives and lives of the people they interact with and so on and so forth. And that's where these funnels become hourglasses. And so anyway, I hope that fires you guys up and gets you excited because I strongly believe, you heard me say this before,

but I strongly believe that for every one of you guys, like you have a calling. There's a reason why you're here, right? The people that get attracted to my world who come to me, like they're not the ones who are like, I want to get rich quick. Like I'm pretty good at like trying to offend those people really quick out the gate. The people who usually follow me, the ones who like, I feel called to do something. I have a message. I've got a mission. And if you're on the expert call, I'm assuming that you feel that way. And so I'm just pumped to serve you guys and help you to take whatever God-given talents and gifts

that you've been blessed with, or the trials and the things you've struggled with and help you turn those into things that can change people's lives. And that's why I do what I do. That's why I'm here. And that's what I want to do over these calls. So what's up, everybody? This is Russell Brunson. I've got something really cool for you today from my friend, Taylor Wells.

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Taylor put together an awesome exclusive deal just for you guys, my marketing secrets listeners. And if you go over to wealthyconsultants.com slash secrets, you can grab the revolving price method book and over $150 worth of bonuses and get this all. It's at 70% off. And I promise you guys as a customer of this, you are going to love it. So if you're serious about growing your business with real stability, this is the model you need to add into your funnels. So go over to wealthy consultant.com slash secrets, grab your 70% off deal, and let's start turning your clients into long-term revenue. Again, that's wealthy consultant.com slash secrets. Do not miss out. Hey, this is Russell Brunson. And I want to jump in really quick to share with you a new assessment I found out that is insanely cool.

You guys know I'm obsessed with personality profiles and assessments, but this one is different because not only does it help you understand yourself, but more importantly, especially for us who are entrepreneurs, it helps us understand our employees, our teams, and get people sitting on the right seats in the bus so they can get more stuff done. I just had a chance to interview Patrick Lanchoni talking specifically about this new assessment they created called Working Genius. And the Working Genius is awesome. This test, I had actually blocked out an hour to take it because I was so excited for the new assessment. And it only took me like 10 minutes or less to get it done. Yet, even though it takes only 10 minutes, like you can actually apply this

immediately. I took it for myself. I had my team take it. And what's cool about it is from there, we figured out exactly what people's Working Geniuses are. And that's important because if you're building a team or a company, you got to figure out, make sure that you have first off the right people, but make sure the right people are sitting in the right seats on the bus. And this is what this assessment will teach you how to do. Now, normally this assessment, you can go to workinggenius.com and there's two G's in the middle, workinggenius.com.

But I got you a 20% discount on the assessment, which is only $25. So don't stress. It's not an expensive test at all. But you get a 20% discount off when you put in the keyword secrets at checkout. So go to workinggenius.com. Again, two G's, workinggenius, two G's in the middle, workinggenius.com, and then use promo code secrets, S-E-C-R-E-T-S at checkout. You get 25% off, but then we'll take the test. Again, it takes you 10 minutes, but even in a 10 minute session, you will get something that is so insanely valuable to help you understand yourself, to make sure you're working

in a spot that's going to give you the most joy, number one. But then number two, it's going to make sure that you are, with your teams, getting them in the right seats as well. So anyway, I love this assessment. Go check it out at workinggenius.com and enter the promo code SECRETS for 20% discount. Take this test for yourself and for your team. And I promise you will change the working dynamics amongst everybody and help your company to grow. So there's my, there's my kickoff Dante. Where do we go from here? What's the, what's the game plan? This is my first one. So we're, we're, I'm learning together with you guys how we're going to play this game.

Yes, absolutely. And we might tweak things up gang. We might play with things. So saying that I really just want to highlight, we want to hear what you have to say. It sounds crazy, but I'm going to go through this chat line by line by line and rewatch the video. And I'm going to go back through right now. Russell and I, we're focused on delivering value. We're focused on showing you how to do the thing. So you can also feel in your heart, just like Russell does, you know, in your soul that

every single step that you take has a ripple effect that comes off of it. You are important and your lives and days and the things that you take has a ripple effect that comes off of it. You are important and your lives and days and the things that you do are important. So we're so focused on that, but I want you guys to know, I want to hear from you. I'm going to look at every single line and every single word that is said. So if there's things that you want, I just want you guys to feel free to share those with us. Russell from here, I think what I'd like to do, if you're cool with this, I'd like to just talk about something for a couple minutes here.

Whatever you think people might need to hear to really get moving. This is not just contrary to prior OFA experiences. This is not just like, hey, learn from Russell, watch him do the videos, and then you can come talk to Dante about the thing and he'll help show you. No, we have Russell here. So Russell, if you have something you'd like to

talk about, I'd like to just talk about that for a little bit. And then after that, we can open up a Q and a, I know you have a tight schedule and we have to get you out of here, uh, at, or right around one. So if we could go over a little topic and then answer some questions from, from, uh, members, that would be amazing. And just so you guys know as well, I'll be staying after when Russell has to go leave and change the world again, I'm going to stay after and it will be my pleasure to answer your guys' questions. Yeah. Well, I think let's jump right to Q&A. That was what I wanted to share earlier. So I think let's jump right to Q&A and let's do that for the next 35 minutes or so. That'll be fun. That sounds amazing. On that note, gang, if you have any

questions you would like to ask Russell, please put those questions in the Q&A. We'll use that Q&A as our running list. As you can see, the chat is absolutely flying, as we hoped it would be. So chat's impossible to keep up with. For specific questions you would like to ask Russell and make sure he sees to provide an answer, go ahead and put those questions in the Q&A. Down at the bottom of Zoom, you'll see two ways to communicate. One is the chat, two is the Q&A, and they're labeled as such. So if you do not see Q&A immediately, just click the more button. It has three dots. It says more, and you'll see Q&A right there in that list. Russell, you should also be able to open up that list. I'm already start... Amazing. Thank you, guys. We're already starting

to see questions roll in there. So if you want to go through, find the questions that you want to answer, let's just hop right into it. Let's see. Did we just read it, answer it? Did we bring people on live? What's the best way to do this? Now, it's so cool to have you guys here because we get to play with it. My favorite way to do these, Russell, is I'm a huge fan of reading the question out loud so everybody in the meeting has an understanding of what we're talking about. And then I love to bring our members out. They can unmute and we can have a quick conversation with them about their thing. You cool with that? Yeah, that sounds awesome.

Amazing. So to start it out, I think Dan had a fantastic question. Dan's question is, how do you manage a membership where everyone is at different levels? Let's say beginner guitarists. So Dan, if you are with us, feel free to unmute. Let's have a conversation. Thank you, Dante. Hey, Russell. What's up? How's it going? I appreciate it. Good, man. I appreciate you. I appreciate you being here, Dante, you too. down to you two so my question is i have a membership that i'm not pushing hard because

everyone that comes in is at a different level and it feels daunting that i need to spend so much time with each person to get them to the next level but then the next person is at the next level and like bringing them all together in the same room. It's just like very hard to tackle. And I know you teach all levels of funnels. So how do you manage that when you have so many different levels in the same room? Yeah, great question. Especially sounds like you're not promoting it harder because of that, that thing. It's like, you know, you could be doing more things, but it stresses you out, right? right exactly and i want to bring as much people together because having a community really really encourages people to keep learning and guitar is so hard to learn but at the same time

the more people that come in the harder it is on me and the more time i have to spend every week on coaching calls and it just it it's not scalable, you know? Yep. For sure. Okay. So we're actually, isn't like perfect timing on this. We've been trying to solve a similar prod problem for one of our sites, which is actually our certification program. So we've got the funnel builder sort of certification program. And we had the same thing.

We launched it last year and all the people came in and they're like, and like, it was the same chaos. It's like, some people are like, I don't know what, like, I don't know what a funnel is. Other people are like experts that run an agency with 50, you know, 50 employees. And it's just like, how do we do all this? And so we actually, this week, like I was just on a meeting right before we got in this one with the, with the team. So we're restructuring the way that we're doing the certification. And we brought it back.

I don't know if you guys know Catherine Jones, but she's brilliant. She came in and she's working. She's, sorry, Zoom's asking if i'm speaking in spanish sorry that's a weird zoom thing um anyway um so she came in she's been helping us restructure the program but what she's doing that um they presented to me this morning just like brilliant is um to solve this exact same problem is we're building everything in um in like a timeline and there's badges along each step in the timeline right so like like like, like for example, we have, we have big milestones. So the milestone, when someone comes to certification, the first milestone is like, how do we get

them to make the first $10,000? So there's, there's the milestone, right? The second milestone is from 10, the next milestone is getting to make $50,000. Then there's a hundred thousand milestone, then a million dollar milestone. So we have these four big milestones, right? And then inside each milestone, instead of just like, here's a bunch of training to get, you know, if you're in this milestone, watch all this kind of stuff. It's broken down to like, okay, if you get this first milestone and get your first $10,000,

there's eight steps you got to do. Step one to end for each step, we assign a badge to it. Okay. And this is important because then when someone's going through and they're in a community or whatever, and they're stuck, the only question you ask is like, well, what, what badge number are you on? And if they're like, oh, I don't know. And it's like, okay, start over.

Go do badge number one. Don't ask these other questions over here that are too advanced. Go to number one, right? But if they come back like, I'm stuck on badge number three, then you know exactly, okay, they're at this level. We know exactly how to serve them, how to help them. And then you can have people in your community. Like the way we're structuring ours is people as soon as – like when you're going from zero to the 10 million, right? So that's ours. And yours could be whatever your equivalent would be is, um,

you have, you have people that are your mentors, right? So people who have already got that gotten through the first milestone and their mentor, you start coming back in the community. They're helping. Like they all are like the part of this, we're trying to build this a whole, like, um, like, like you serve people below you. Right. So, so they've got mentors that are helping them. As soon as they get the first 10,000, then they have mentors that are 50 000 helping them but then they become a mentee of the people who are down below so now it's like we create this whole this

whole thing where the community is helping each other so as soon as they got 10 000 they celebrate i've been 10 000 and someone's like that's amazing i'm at level three i'm stuck right here like oh i already solved level three let me show exactly how i did it and they're jumping in and helping the person right but they're they're at 10 so there's milestone looking for the next milestone, which is 50. So not only are they not helping people, they're now helping people who are stuck behind, but then they're also like, okay, I get 50 to 50 people are like, oh, you're on, you're on a badge number 12. Uh, that I got stuck there too. Let me show you. And so like, we're trying to like have the community help pull people through, but now there's very specific milestones because otherwise everyone shows up

and it's just like, again, you have someone who's advanced talking to beginner and there's like, I'm not in the right room versus like, okay, like now we know exactly where you're at. Now we can communicate. Now it's like, oh, you're below me, but I can mentor you. You know, I can be one of your mentors or like you're above me. Uh, you know, you can be a mentee or vice versa. And it kind of helps categorize people. And then, and now there's also like a very progression of where people are trying to move through the program right and having that progression is cute uh is huge too because then it's like they know where they're going they're not just randomly sitting in a membership site like just learning like there's a goal a purpose a focus there's achievement um and uh so that's

how we're solving right now in the certification program um so hopefully that helps gives you a couple ideas of ways you could you could do it for years as well does that help a lot a lot that's genius do you have like different coaches for every step or or do you have like monthly calls or how are you structuring that yeah so uh we basically we have in the program right now there's only like two or three coaches and they're all kind of um they're they're going live like kind of like this doing q and a's getting people unstuck so there'd be a q and a call for people from from one to ten different call for 10 to 50s because they have different set of problems at each step but it's not like a whole bunch of coaches just like the same coaches but they're just breaking down the calls and and planning them in the in the right places that makes sense make

make totally and you're doing that through a Facebook group or something like that? Where do they find support? There's a ClickFunnels platform that's good, but it's not quite great yet. We're anxiously waiting a couple more features and then we're going to transition into the ClickFunnels group. Right now, we're doing it in Facebook. That's genius. Thank you so much.

No worries. Great question. I hope that's helpful for other people too. I think that will. Dan, I really want to point out something Russell said there is he's wielding leverage. I think leverage is one very powerful tool in business, right? So Russell's been doing this thing for a while and Russell magnetically, he attracts people like myself and the rest of the coaches. Like he attracts those just like you will attract your guitarists. So as you're building your community leverage your all-stars when you have somebody that you're like wow you just came in

and wanted to learn these things but i've taught you and you've adapted and you've grown and like man i'm so glad you're here have them become the coach for your thing so now your actual people are fulfilling on your product and you can go back to doing big den things yeah it's funny you say that down there because one of the best calls i've, I've been doing it for like a year and a half. And one of the best calls was I was coming back in the train, so I didn't have a guitar. So I made my students teach the class. It was the best call ever. That's one. You got me tired. I'm done. I got, yeah, I got to get out of the equation. I got to, I don't know, put my guitars away or something.

That's awesome. That's amazing, man. Thank you for the question, Dan. Great question. Thank you. We have another one from Alfredo. Alfredo is a newbie in affiliate marketing and he's found a product that he really believes in,

in the AI space. Alfredo's question is this, and Alfredo, after I read the question, feel free to unmute yourself he says hey russell and thank you so much for your time i have a digital product i want to sell it's very well made and the individual also has a book on amazon which is very well written i would like to use the book on amazon and then lead them to the digital product but how do i get them from the lead magnet to the book offer on amazon then back to ClickFunnels to proceed with their digital offer.

Very cool. Very specific. All right. Who's that? Who's naming that again? That's me. That was Alfredo. There he is. Oh, there you go. What's up, Alfredo? Hey, Russell. Likewise. Okay. So a couple of things. So do you have any customer list or anything right now,

or are you starting kind of from scratch? From scratch. Okay. So a couple of things. So do you, do you have any like customer list or anything right now? Or are you starting kind of from scratch? From scratch. Okay. So there are two things you need to be a really good affiliate. Uh, number one is like your own lead magnet. So you can start building a list. And then number two is like an offer to amplify the offer of what you're trying to sell. Right. I look at our best affiliates. We have an in click funnels and all my programs. It's never the ones who just like send a link to go buy my thing. They're ones who have their own, their own following. And then from there, they're able to, um, like, you know, talk with people, but then create offers. So it's like, Hey, if you buy Russell's course, I'm also going to give you blah, blah, blah. Like, like an added, added value on

top of what it is that the offer is. Right. So if I was you, the first thing I would do is to figure out, okay, how can you create something that can be a lead magnet that will get people to build your list? Right. And so I would look at this author's book, the software, and like, what's something unique you can create based on this, right? It could be like your review of the book. It could be, you create templates. It could be, again, I don't know enough about the product to know, but it's something you can create right out of the gate. That's unique. That's your own. That's kind of showing, um, it could be, it could even be tutorials of how to use the software. I had a friend, man, this is 20 years ago, Onyx and Gall, he's a big name now,

but back 20 years ago, he was a college kid and he was trying to figure out how to make money. And there was a software called Traffic Equalizer, which was this software that made these AdSense sites and stuff. And everyone was buying software, they didn't know how to use it. So he created a whole bunch of tutorials for how to use the software. And then he gave those away for free. Here's tutorials on how to use it, why you should use it. And people opted in and built a big list. And then from that, he'd be like, hey, if you're using the software anyway,

if you buy it through my affiliate link, I will jump on a call with you. Or, you know, whatever, do Q&A calls to help make sure you get it set up right. And he had people who had already bought the software who bought a second copy just so they could get his bonus. And that's what it was. And so it was like the front end, something unique and the back end, something unique so that people will want to connect with you.

So that'd be the kind of the two things. And then from there, like you're giving away the lead magnet, they go to one of ClickFunnels pages, they give you the email address and the email now in your sequence, you can say, hey, go buy the book on Amazon. If you buy it, I'm going to give you my notes from it. And then, hey, go buy the software over here. And the book on Amazon. If you buy it, I'm going to give you my notes from it.

And then, hey, go buy the software over here. And if you buy it, when you buy it, I'm going to give you these tutorials that I made that are really cool and it's extra bonus. Or I interviewed the founder

of the software. Here's the cool thing I can give you as well. And now you're adding value to whatever the offer is. Does that make sense? Yeah, it does. Thank you.

Cool. Yeah, that's the thing with affiliate marketing is like, is understanding like the best affiliate marketers all have their own list. It's like,

you need to get a list. It's almost impossible nowadays just to buy an ad and send it to an offer. It's so hard to make the numbers and the metrics work on that. So it's like understanding I need to start cultivating my own list. And then whatever the offer is, I need to increase that offer by adding in my own bonuses that are unique to me that people can only get through me. And if you do it well enough, again, people like periodic, you get people who are, who already bought the product, bought it again just to get his bonuses because they, they wanted it so bad, right? So it's like, what's the value add you can create to that offer to make it, to make it unique. And then when you have that, now it's like, now it's, it's your affiliate, but it's

still, it's now it's your own business and you control it because you have the customer list. So when you want to create a course on the thing, or you want to sell some other product, like now you're in a business where it's not just, you know, you're not just sending traffic to an affiliate site. Like you're serving a group of people, right? You have this audience and now you're able to sell them that product, but other things, and eventually your own coaching and all other kinds of stuff as well. But it all starts with building that, that following that list, um, rather the gate the gate. Thank you so much, Russell. Thank you.

No wonder. No worries. Hope that helps. Yes, it does. Quick little thing I would add to that, Alfredo. Here's what I'll say to that. How do you get people back from Amazon? Because I imagine the person that you're promoting, you're just promoting their products. So they have their product in Amazon for a specific reason, more than likely they're

trying to get a bestsellers book or something like that. So how do we get them from Amazon back to our funnel, right? That's the big kicker because yes, everything Russell said is just very much so true. You need to have your own list. If you're going to be doing AI, there's a lot of different repercussions for AI, but more than likely you're going to be helping business owners use AI. So you do need to make a list of business owners that you can leverage other offers to, of course. But now we get them to Amazon. How do we get them back to our funnel? How do we get them back communicating? Because Amazon is really good at what they do and they're never going to share the list of people with you. So how do you get them back? I like to reframe my people before I send them to Amazon. Like Russell said, we got to become addicted to creating offers, gang. When you buy this book on Amazon, make sure to send me a receipt because everybody who buys this book and buys this book through me, I created a complete free course that's going to help you implement all the things you learned in the book. And I'd love to share that with you for free. If you want, you can go buy it for $97, but I don't want that.

I want you to get results now. So make sure to send your receipt to whatever your email is. And now people go buy the book and then they send you that receipt. And now the communication line is back open and you hit them with the script. Great. Now that you have the book, click this link to go join my course and click this link to go get your whatever deal. Does that make sense? Got it. Got it. Great. Thank you. Thank you so much. You're more than welcome. Introducing TD Insurance for Business with customized coverage options for your business. Because at TD Insurance, we understand that your business is unique. So your business insurance

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is there a video you talking about or about, or what's it all look like? Well, if I could share my screen, can I do that? Do you have it pulled up and we can move quickly, Jeff? Yeah, I think so. Go for it. Okay, hold on. Share. No, it says host disabled participant screen sharing.

We'll probably be sharing screens next week then. Okay, so basically... We don't know how this Zoom works. The way that I have it set up, I have my video, I have the headlines, I've headlined the video. I have the button that says pick up my new bonuses now. And then I have my list of bonuses, which I've actually got four bonuses. I'm actually adding two more here a little bit later on. And then it goes into what the ofa

challenge is about day by day and then it goes into because this is strictly for the expert path because that's the only one i've gone through so far and then it goes into like well who's an expert and it has like 10 different categories of different people this is for you but i put my bonuses directly below the video i think i think that's good especially because you're again you're doing a value add so that way even people who who are familiar with it it's like you're giving them a reason to re-look at it right so it's like hey here's the bonuses you get and then on top of that it's almost like whenever whenever i build a funnel i'm always thinking about it through um just realizing like human psychology what people actually do right most people don't go to a funnel read the entire thing all the way to the

bottom and then they go by right like there there's there's these points they check off throughout the funnel either they either buy or they leave and so i'm always thinking through that it's like okay what's the most powerful thing i have so if you look at the top like above the fold of any page like i'm always focusing number one on emotion because motion is the number one way we can sell somebody then from after emotion then it shifts the logic and then from there it's fear so emotion logic fear so the very first pass i'm assuming your video is like this is why it's amazing it's why you need to be part of it it's like you're mostly telling what it is like and then when you buy today i'm going to give you this really cool bonus you can't get anywhere else

right so then you have the bonus right below so like that's the offer and that's very emotional thing right like oh i want that i want the stuff I want everything that he's going to offer me. Like, that's really cool. And then you're transitioning. And again, that will get your first, uh, 50% of the audience will buy emotionally. It's like, that's as far as they're going to go and they're going to buy or not buy. And then you've got the next group of people who are the logical, who are like, Hey, what is the whole thing? Like, does this work for me? I'm actually an expert. And that's when you transition to the next thing. But I'm going to, I'm going to have like, before I transition that there's a button, you have a button. So they, like those who are ready to buy, like they've

got the ability to go like click off and go and buy. And now I'm, now I'm speaking to the logical person, right? So I'm transitioning. The emotional person's bought, logical person's now scrolling. And I got to have the next arguments. And there's where I started the story you talked about with like, am I an expert? What's it look like? All that kind of stuff. And then, so that's your, your logic, which is to be your next, like 25, 30% of people biologically. And then the last 20, whatever percent, how are we at 20? Yeah, the last percentage by through fear, right?

Which is urgency and scarcity. So you use the bottom of my page, like this is why you gotta do it. And this is why you gotta do it now. And if you don't do it now, it's gonna disappear. And then that's where the last segment of the people come in. And so I'd have an exit point

before you transition to eggs, you know, a button basically before you go to urgency and scarcity and then below that as well. But that's how I would kind of structure. See, I think the bonuses and stuff you're doing are, would be tied to the emotional clothes.

Like it's the emotional buyers. It's like, what am I getting? Oh, it's gonna be so much. This is gonna be awesome. Like, you know,

and that's going to be where I'd focus the front end of people. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes perfect sense. I just have to add the add the urgency and scarcity section, but I have everything else. Cool. If you think about any kind of selling,

it's always emotion, logic, fear. And so that framework, if you watch what I do, again, hopefully you're listening to what I'm saying all the time, but also always watch what I'm doing because I'm selling art, but I'm also doing the art while I'm selling it. If you notice, every one of our email sequences lead with emotion, first couple emails, we transition to logic, and then we end with fear, urgency and scarcity. You look at what I'm selling at Funnel Hacking Live. I start with emotion, we transition to logic, and we end with fear.

If you look at my retargeting campaigns, first couple banner ads, they see ads are emotion, then transitions to logic, then goes to fear. Sales pages, emotion, logic, fear, webinars, emotion, logic, fear. So if you just look at that pattern, it always works. And just understand those are the three things we have to hit. If you just do emotion, that's awesome, but you only get half the buyers. If you do emotion, logic, that's awesome, but you get like 70% of the buyers. Emotion, logic, fear, now you get all the segments of the people who are gonna, who didn't come up.

So I'm always thinking through those things in any campaign, any ad, any sales page, any email sequence, like just over and over and over again. So if you're always trying to figure out like, how do I increase the sales on this thing? That's one thing I'm looking at. I was like, okay, I got emotion.

Is there a logical argument here? Okay, I need to add logic. And then like, ooh, there's no fear. I need to add some urgency and scarcity. I gotta take this thing away or's a lot of people won't buy it. And funnel hacking live is a good example of that. Um, I mean, we had 5,000 people could funnel hacking live. One third of those tickets are sold the last two weeks. One third. It's insane. It's so stressful for me. Like it drives me nuts, but it's like the fact that I'm taking

it by the event is starting. You can't like, that's people like, okay, I'm going to, I'm gonna get my ticket. I'm like, I've been talking about this every day for eight months, and now, one week before we go live, you're finally going to commit to this? Like, it's so stressful, especially when you have a hotel and all that stuff. Anyway, but, like, if I don't have that fear, like, that last segment, 20, 25% of people will not buy. Like, you have to pull the weight or else they're not going to buy. And we always joke, like, the only reason to, like, launch an offer is to close the

offer because you make, you know, if you guys do product launches, you'll notice your first day you get the most sales and your last day you usually get the same amount of sales. You open a cart so you can close the cart because that's when the fear of taking things away is when everyone goes and actually buys. So anyway, hope that helps. That was a great question. Thank you for that, Jeff. And we have another awesome one i'm super excited to talk about this christy asks christy cross asks i would love some insight on how to offer hack when you can't find someone in your niche who's advertising great question all right christy

you still here yes i am i'm looking for. Yeah, we're looking for the green box. Oh, there it is. Hey, what's up, Christy? Can you hear me? Hello. Very cool. Okay, so this is the reality. Hopefully this will be helpful. I traditionally don't offer hack people in my industry anyway,

because I don't want to look like a me too. So what I do instead is I'm looking at like the type of offer I'm selling. So if I'm selling coaching, right, I will go look at like, say I'm doing business coaching. So for me, like I'm going to look at how are health coaches selling their coaching? How are financial coaches selling their coaching? How are stock coaches? Like I look at other industries, but the same type of thing, right? If I'm selling, let's say I want to do a course.

So let's say, what is your market, by the way? I'm a ghostwriter and brand building coach who also does funnel building for my clients. Very cool. Yeah. So you're a weird cross segment. You're not going to find someone else that does what you do. So your next book, Russell. Nice. But like what I would say, what I would say though, is like, it's okay.

So if you're selling a course on that or whatever, it's like, again, find somebody else who's selling a course. There's not so much somebody who's selling a course in your niche, right? Okay. I'm trying to look at – in fact, Jay Abraham is one of the greatest business strategic guys in the whole world. When I first got started, I would listen to him and I remember he told me, he was like, he's like, I'm not that smart. He's like, what I'm really good at doing though is like I look at all these different industries to see what they're doing. And he's like, in my industry, the industry I'm consulting for a lot of times, they've never seen these things.

So all he was like, oh, well you're in this industry over here. They do this. You should just try this. And he's pulling things from other industries. And that's when they like people like you're a genius. You figured things out. Same thing. Like when we launched ClickFunnels, um, that's all I did is start looking at all the other

industries. So like, uh, we launched ClickFunnels initially and I was like, how do we get people excited about what we're doing? Right. And I looked at the network marketing industry and they had like, it was a Mary Kay. Like if you get so many sales, you get a pink Cadillac or something like that. And then these other ones, they give her free cars. I was like, and in my market, nobody was giving away cars.

Like that was not a thing. And so I was like, well, what if we gave a car bonus? If people sell ClickFunnels, we get a hundred trials, we give them a free car and no one had done that so we did that everyone's like oh you're a genius you figured this thing out like i didn't i just looked at another industry similar to mine and i copied that idea and i funnel hacked it and brought it back to mine so that's what i'm looking for is when i'm when i'm doing offer hacking is less of like what are people in my market doing it's like what are the other markets doing that are killing it that nobody even knows

about my markets? When I bring this thing back, I look like a superstar because I invented something new. I'm looking, but in this market, they do it all the time. Ghostwriters know nothing about marketing almost. So yeah. Yeah. So find people like me or other people who are doing it and just model like that. Like look at the structure.

That's how I got here. Very cool. Excellent. Thank you so much. Yeah, no worries. And have fun writing books. It's the hardest thing in the structure. That's how I got here. Very cool. Excellent. Thank you so much. Yeah, no worries. And have fun writing books. It's the hardest thing in the world. I love it.

Amazing. Thank you for that question, Christy. Okay. I know Russell's time is short. And how much are you guys enjoying? Who's gotten a tidbit so far? Who's already pulled a nugget? If you've already pulled a nugget out or got something of value, I'd love for to put three in the chat for me please again i'm just doing this because i'm going to

look through and i want to see what you guys are saying so put three in the chat if you've already got value from this amazing it's gonna get so much better this is so great thank you russell for doing this next question is going to be from grace grace reynolds is there a difference between a course and a membership in ClickFunnels, or is it the same process? Very cool. Grace, are you here with us today? Yes, I'm here, Russell. Hey, good to see you. How are you doing? Very well. I've been in our perfect webinar for two days, so it's really great to see you live he does exist that's awesome very cool yeah so difference in a course and membership site like structurally you know in click funnels it's the same thing basically right you're still

creating it the same in my mind it's more like how the fulfillment happens right so in the course usually there's a beginning and an end. And so it starts and it ends. And so for me, usually it's like, I sell a course for, who knows, $497, whatever. There's a beginning and an end, and it's self-contained and it kind of is what it is. I look at a membership, I'm looking at it differently where it's like, it's something that doesn't end,

it just keeps going. So the fulfillment's usually different, right? So for example, if you look at a course, for me, it's like, like right now I'm doing the course secrets course. And so there's six modules. And so, um, uh, today I'm actually doing module number three and then I have the four, five, six, and it's done. It's just kind of a members area. It's there. People will buy it. They get the course and then it, but I'm not continually doing stuff after it's, it's done with my membership sites, right? Uh, like click

phones, membersite, like there's stuff happening. I'm doing calls like this every single week. Now we've got trade doing calls. We got other things happening. You know, my coaching programs are membership based. There's, there's more stuff. So it's, it's, it's extending the experience outside of what you're doing. Right. There's typically like, if I joined a membership site for me, I always call it like a success path or a quick start.

And the quick start is basically the course, but then it's like, it doesn't end there. And then it's like, now that the the course is done now jump into the live trainings or live events or like whatever the the next deliverables are they just keep extending that conversation over time right or community or things like that as far as like how you structure in click funnels it's pretty much the same thing just you know setting the billings differently but just more of the psychology of like how how are we structuring these things to be a long-term thing versus just a one-time one-off and there's pros and cons of both of them like i like courses because i sell it and then i'm done and i don't have to think about it again it's like oh this is nice it's you know when i'm dead

my kids keep selling course and keep making money yeah i've got four levels and i can't work out whether to make it a membership call a member, like the first level of course, and then run the rest as a membership, or whether to do the whole thing as a membership. Very cool. What I do a lot of times is we'll sell it. So we talk about this in the linchpin book a little bit, but like where you sell it, let's say you sell it for $500.

I mean, $500, what you do is you get the very first course done, plus you get 90 days access to all the other courses. And so what happens is they go through this, they're going through the course right now, and plus you get 90 days access to the all the other courses and so what happens is they go through so they're going through the course right now and then they get 90 days and 90 days then it transitions to auto billing them and that gives them continued access to all the other courses and the continued education and the training and all the other kind of stuff and so you can structure that way as well thank you my linchpin has just arrived so i'll learn it in there thank you oh very cool awesome thank you so much you're

welcome that is awesome thank you for the question grace uh let's hop over to tamas and tamas says i'd love to hear more about community building i think this will be a pretty quick answer i'll let russell end it out but when it comes to community building my big thing to focus on is know thy customer people do not join your community because of you. Kind of, yes, they join because of you and they like your attractive character and who you are, right? But if you want to build a community, don't forget who you're serving. Don't forget the customer. It's like Russell says, right?

If you want to go make a community, go print out a picture of your dream customer. Go tape it up to your wall and look at that every day and build the thing. A community would be a continue, a community is a place where people can come and grow, right? So you have to build that for your customer. We'd love to hear what you think on that, Russell. Yeah, for sure. Who's asked the question again? That was Tomas. I'm just going to say K so I don't butcher it. There you are, Tomas. How you doing? Hi, nice to meet you. Great to meet you too. So a couple of thoughts. If you've read the Expert Secrets book,

I talk a lot about it here, but the things with the community, the things I try to do is number one is that I want to give people an identity shift. Like when they come into a community, I want them to be part of something, right? Like for you guys, like we call you funnel hackers. In fact, I see a couple funnel hacker t-shirts out there,

right? Like there's an identity shift. Like you shift from being somebody to that. Like that's a big part of the community, right? That's why we have Funnel Hacking Live. It's like the community is coming together and they have a name. They call themselves funnel hackers. And there's like an actual physical identity shift.

That's the first thing I'm always kind of thinking through. We're rolling out a new coaching program right now. And the first question I asked, I was like, what's the identity? And so anyway, I'm not pitching this because it's's, what's the identity? And so, um, anyway, I'm not pitching. This is not done yet, but,

uh, I bought prime mover.com. So prime mover is like the identity of this higher tier coaching program. Newers. Like I'm a prime mover. I'm changing the world. Like we're gonna have teachers, a prime mover.

I want people like to identify. I am a prime mover. I'm a funnel hacker. I'm a prime mover. I gets, it's that identity. So that's a big part. Cause when they have that identity shift and they have with other people and they're all

together, like they have a common name and common ground. Like that's, that's one of the bigger things about the community. Cause now it's like, it's not about you again. It's about them and the culture and things like that. And that's kind of where for me, it all begins with. And then number two is just, um, you know, how do I explain it? It's like your job is the role as the community leader or the expert is to like set the perfect example, right? To be doing the thing. And so I look at like,

you know, you know, everyone here's got a different face and I love and respect them all. But I think about like my faith, like I'm a Christian, like I believe in Christ and like Christ is always, I talk about like, there's two sides, like, oh, he was about. There's two sides. Oh, here's the divine calling he had. But the other side is he was a perfect example. Here's the example you need to follow. He was a perfect example. In my world, people always ask me, Russell, why are you still launching funnels? Why are you still doing this?

Because I'm trying to be the perfect example. I hate my competitors who clone our software and they don't do funnel. They never built a funnel in their entire life. Like, it's like, I want to be the ones like, no, I'm doing this. Like I'm in the front lines. I'm just like you guys, I'm doing this. Like I'm, I'm, I'm in the weeds with you guys doing this. I can bring you back the best stuff all the time.

Like I'm part of it. Right. So you want to be the perfect example to your audience, right? Like, um, so if you're in the weight loss market, like you better be, you better have abs and you better be showing it off. You better be working out. You better be like, you need to be the perfect example. Cause people are going to, when they, when they come into your world, they're going to

get this identity and they're going to copy you. Like they're going to model you. Like you're going to be the person, the exemplar they're looking to, to be, to be the person. And so for you guys, it's the same kind of thing. Like you got to live it. You got to live the message. Like you got to be doing the thing, right? Like I still build funnels.

I'm still launching businesses. I'm still doing stuff. And the reality is most of those things don't make me enough money to really justify me doing it other than the fact that I'm doing it. And I'm doing it because I want to show you guys that I still do it and it's still fun. And from that I'm learning. Like I did a web, who was it saying that a list of perfect webinar today? I did a webinar yesterday. It was a three hour, three and a half hour long webinar. Like I rewrote it, re-scripted it, did it live, sold a whole bunch of stuff. And I learned a ton of things along the way. Cause I did it. I didn't have to do it, but if I'm going to be

teaching people how to do this stuff, I got to be living it. And so there's a lot of other stuff, but those are two things I think is like figuring out identity shift for them and then being the perfect example, like you living the message. So when they see it, it's like, that's what I'm striving to be. I'm trying to do that right there. And when they see that, then that's what starts building this community and getting people to, to lock in with that. So hopefully that helps. Yeah, it does.

Very nice answer. Thank you. Very cool. And then read expert secrets to the whole big chapter on a lot of those kinds of things in there too. That'll, that'll help on top of it. So.

Okay. I'm going to get it. Amazing. Very cool. Holly's got hers right there. She's, she's read it. She can tell you.

Thanks. This is fun. Dante, like looking into everybody's houses i haven't done a live like this forever like it's kind of cool to see everybody and like i see gabriel's laughing you're laughing at me come on now anyway i think we have time for one more one more question then i'll pass it back to you after that yeah i think that's perfect one more question uh and and and i picked one i think we can do pretty quickly this one's's from Christy Lopez. If I have a three day event that I want to fill, and we're leading them to a VSL creation, should the VSL be an intro about the three day event? Okay, this is Christy said? Yeah, Christy Lopez. Hi there. There she is.

Hey, Christy, how's it going? Good. How are it going? Good. How are you? Thanks so much. Yeah. No worries. Okay. So explain to me.

So you've got a three-day event that you're trying to fill and you have a VSL to fill the event or the event's about VSLs? Well, our step today is to create a VSL in the funnel, right? As far as what you want us to do in our steps. So I was thinking, okay, my ultimate goal is to fill a three-day event in August. So if I was creating a VSL, would it be best to do it around, hey, this is kind of an intro about like my framework. And then. Gotcha. Yes. So what I would say is I'm always looking at like, so when you do the three-day event, there's some result you're promising people at the three-day event, right? Like during three days, you're going to learn blah. I'm actually

structuring a 3D event right now. I bought sellingonline.com. So I'm going to be doing in July, an event called selling online, teach people to sell online. So in my mind, there's like, there's the, there's this, there's this result that the event's promising them. Right? So then the VSL to sell that as like, Hey, if you want insert the result, we'll learn to sell online. If you want to learn how to, you know, whatever your thing is like, hey, if you want, insert the result. We'll learn to sell online. If you want to learn how to, you know, whatever your thing is, then and then that becomes like the thing. So you're teaching the framework, the perfect webinar style. You're teaching the strategy of the framework.

And then during this live event, we're going to go deep into tactics of how to actually implement and do the thing that will get you the result. Does that make sense? Did I answer the question correctly? That totally makes sense. Great. So it's almost like the three minute version of the framework that you were talking the other day. You do that on the BSL. Yep. Yep. Okay. It depends how long, because what's the price point of your event? It's going to be low because I'm selling into a high ticket offer from that. So it'll probably be about $47.97, something like that. Cool. Yeah. So you don't

need a super long thing, but you know, I would say probably if it was me selling some, I'm looking at eight to 12 minutes ish. So it'd be that version of it long enough that it's like, Ooh, this is me. Cool. And they see like, you know, your stuff and they're getting excited about the framework and then yeah, that's like implementation of the framework happens over here. Um, yeah. Great. Thank you. Yeah. Very cool. Excited for you. framework and then yeah that's like implementation the framework happens over here um yeah great thank you yeah very cool excited for you thanks i'm too thanks for what you're doing yeah no worries thank you yeah you guys that was fun we should do this every friday how many of you want to do this every single friday and hang out and you guys are lucky because right now not many

people know about so 145 you guys we got hung out and do this which is really cool it'll continue to grow but especially for the next like few months like jump on these because they're going to be smaller smaller and over time they'll grow they'll grow bigger um i wish i could spend another two or three hours um unfortunately i've got a chaotic day today but i'm committed to an hour every single week with you guys and dante is going to kind of cut take it from here run and keep doing q a uh again dante is an amazing storyteller amazing teacher amazing amazing trainer. So I trust the stuff he's given you guys will be, you know, probably better than the stuff

I could give you. So, uh, it's going to be, it's going to be awesome. But, um, anyway, I'm going to pass it back to Dante to kind of, to kind of run with it. You guys for next a little bit. Cool. Thank you, Russell. And thank you for being here with us. I am very excited for, for the next future.

I think we're going to do big things with this. Oh, if they be awesome. Thanks everybody. I'm we're going to do big things with this OFA. Awesome. Thanks, everybody. I'm going to bounce. We'll see you guys all next week. Same time, same place. Don't miss it.

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