Marketing Secrets with Russell Brunson - Is A Funnel Even Right For My Business?
Episode Date: January 5, 2018Here are five things to do to make sure that a funnel will even work for what it is you're trying to sell. On this episode Russell talks about putting the right people on your team to be able to best... market your product or service. Here are some awesome things you will hear in this episode: Find out why you should have your entire team take the disc profile test to find out where they best fit in. And Why it's important to have the right people in the right positions for your business. So listen here to find out why it's so important to use the disc profile system to put team members in the right position for your business to grow and be successful. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/is-a-funnel-even-right-for-my-business Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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So I'll probably be less than normal Russell energy because the coughing just kind of kills
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So anyway, that's kind of kills me.
So anyway, that's kind of what's happening,
and I'm excited to be here with you guys today.
All right, so I think there's one or two podcast episodes I recorded that we'll probably post after this,
just because I'm just, you know how that is sometimes.
A couple editing and things like that I want to do on them.
And so I just wanted to get you guys one really quick.
I actually just drove my parents to the airport and dropped them off.
And I had some thoughts I wanted to share with you guys about,
is your business ready for a funnel?
And the reason why this is kind of top of my mind right now is my dad is in town
and he's got a really cool accounting business.
So some of you guys use him, which I appreciate that.
I get nothing for recommending him, but he's awesome.
And it's
bookies.com B O O K E A S E.com. And they do business structuring. So they help you get
protected by the way you structure your business. They do accounting, do bookkeeping. If you haven't
paid taxes in like five years, like most entrepreneurs seem to not do when they get
started, they do all that stuff and catch you up and excuse me, really cool business. So it's
bookies.com.
Um, and, uh, I've talked about it before on this podcast. I told everyone how it's like the cheapest thing ever.
I keep trying to raise their prices.
And, um, it's funny as they're, as they're trying to like turn this into an actual business
business, like it's, it's a good business.
They've gotten a few hundred clients.
Um, a lot of, uh, a lot of click funnels members, inner circle members, stuff like that.
They do stuff for and trying to grow.
And I keep, I keep kind of telling my dad, like, these are things that need to happen
for you to be able to grow.
And so I want to share them because I think it's true for a lot of businesses who make
this leap.
They're trying to transition from the kind of whatever they're doing now into like using
funnels.
I know my dad, he went and like, he didn't want to bug me.
So he went and hired someone to build a funnel.
So the person built him a funnel and they built a webinar funnel.
And my dad showed me, he's like, yeah, our funnel's done.
And I look and I'm like, okay, do you have a webinar? He's like, no. I'm like,
why did he build your webinar funnel? He's like, I don't know. He just,
he told us that we needed a funnel. And so like, this is the funnel he built. I'm like,
dude, who builds my dad a funnel and doesn't even talk strategy.
So that's what today's lesson is going to be about. So, um, kind of go off top of my head,
but these are the things that are necessary if you want your company to be successful with funnels.
All right, number one,
you need to have somebody on your team
in charge of marketing who is a high D.
Now, the reason why I say high D,
this is if you take the DISC profile,
D-I-S-C, you take the DISC profile,
you have somebody who is a high D or is a driver. Um,
there's so many companies I know who do not have a high D that's running stuff. And because of that,
nothing ever actually gets done. So number one, you need to have high D. If you do not have a high
D on your team yet, you are not going to grow. And I have bad news for you. You're not going to
become a high D if you are not one already. Okay. It's not something I believe you can develop or
should you try to develop it.
You should find the right person to do that.
Now, I'm a big believer that the only thing
in your business that actually matters is the marketing.
Therefore, I think that for most of you guys,
you know, your CMO and your CEO should be the same person
because that is business as marketing.
I know that some of the product people out there
will disagree with me, but I think that I'm right
and I've got a big account to prove it.
So there you go.
Just kidding.
I don't want to be the annoying guy.
I'm not that annoying.
I just want to make a point
that you need to have somebody
that's driving the marketing
and hopefully it's the CEO or the owner or whatever,
and that person needs to be a super high D.
And so if you're not a high D
and you're running where your curtains are growing,
it's because you don't have that person yet.
And so take the DISC profile.
It's free online.
In fact, I think you can go to TonyRobbins.com,
scroll to the very bottom,
the little link says DISC profile.
Take that and find out if you're a high D.
And if you're not, find out who on your team is a high D.
And if you don't have one on your team,
if there's no high Ds on your team,
you are not gonna drive this thing
to where you want it to go.
You'll have visions
and you'll think about how nice it'd be
to have a bigger company,
but you are not gonna be able to do it.
It's just not possible without a high D on your
team. So get a high D and make that person in charge of the marketing of your business. That's
number one. All right. Cause, um, number two is going to be, you come obsessed with the marketing
of your business. Okay. Um, and we've talked about this a lot before in the past, but there
needs to be somebody who's obsessed. If there's not somebody on your team
who's read both my books at least twice,
then there's not an obsessive marketing person on your team.
And I'm just saying my book
because my book's a compilation
of all good marketing books put together
into strategic chronological order.
These are not my thoughts.
These are like, my books are,
here's Russell reading 800 books
and then putting them in chronological order
after testing everything and telling you what actually works and the order works.
Right?
And so if someone on your team in this day and age who's building a funnel and charging
marketing hasn't, is not obsessed with my books, I'm not out of ego, but just out of
the fact that they're not going to be successful.
Like they need to read it and understand it and read it and read it and read it.
Okay.
Because if this person is saying, Hey, we should build a webinar funnel.
They start building a webinar funnel. I put all the, your time this person is saying, Hey, we should build a webinar funnel. They start building a webinar funnel.
I put all the, your time and your money, your expertise, you're building a webinar funnel.
Then you come back and you're like, wait, but we don't actually have a webinar yet.
They should be fired. Okay. So just make sure that you are fully aware of that because they
understand the strategy. They understand the selling. They understand like all those kinds
of things. Like all those things are very, very important. Okay. So that's number two. Number three, uh, you have to create an offer that can sustain paid traffic. Okay. We are in
a world right now and it shifts all the time. But as today, the world we live in right now,
the majority of your guys' traffic, I know this because we get billions of visitors a year coming
through ClickFunnels. The majority of your traffic right now is coming from Facebook.
The majority. Okay. And good old Mark Zuckerberg is going to charge you on the lownels, the majority of your traffic right now is coming from Facebook. The majority. Okay?
And good old Mark Zuckerberg is going to charge you on the low end, the very, very, very, very low end, $1 per opt-in, per registrant, per whatever it is, per lead, and the high
end, you're looking at $8 to $10 a lead, per lead.
Okay?
So if you're selling something that can't sustain where you got to spend, I say on average,
you'll get $3 to $5 a lead.
Okay?
$3 to $5 a lead.
So if you're selling something, let's say you're selling a $50 a week payment, you know,
like, like let's say you're a chiropractor, right?
$50 a week payment or whatever.
I don't know.
My brain's kind of tired.
So that's probably a bad example, but whatever it is you're selling, right?
Um, and you're saying, look for me, I'm going to need a hundred leads to close one person
or three people or whatever.
It's costing me five bucks per lead. So I've got to pay whatever it costs to be in there.
If those numbers don't work for you, you have to shift your pricing strategy.
That's my biggest problem for my dad right now is that they have really inexpensive accounting services,
which is great for his clients, the ones who know about them, and nobody else will ever know about them
because he can't
sustain growth right now.
Okay.
So that's why you guys should go use them quick before they jack their prices up.
Like they keep telling you to.
Okay.
Cause you need to have money to be able to spend on advertising, to acquire customers,
to bring them in and probably incentivize a salesperson that high D cause most high
D's they're rainmakers, right?
They want to get paid a lot for the work that they do.
Unless you are a high D who's going to be doing that, you need that person there to be able to afford them.
Right. And so you've got to be able to have those things in place.
You got to change your offering.
He told my dad, like people need to pay you at least $2,000 just to begin the interaction with your company.
Man, that gives you at least $1,000 you can spend to get that customer, which is going to be necessary in the business type and business model you're in.
So you've got to be able to figure out,
does my business, do I have an offer I can sell right now?
First off, is it sexy that people actually want?
Second off, I can charge enough money that it'll make me money
and it'll cover all of my advertising expenses.
If not, you're not going to be able to grow your business
no matter how great your product or service is, which is unfortunate. It's just true. Okay. So you gotta make sure
it's going to be able to sustain the growth of it. Right. Um, so what do we got? We got
driver. Number one, you got some obsessive who can drive this thing. Number two, you
got to have a number two is obsessive, obsessive, the marketing, the sales, just get a geek
out and just go crazy to understand the strategy behind your specific business.
This would be number three.
You got to make sure you have an offer that can, that will, um, will absorb all the costs
of advertising.
So you can actually go out there and you can advertise.
And then before you're going to have somebody who can sell a thing. Okay. And so there's different ways that we sell
stuff online, right? There's sales letters, like a long form sales letter. So if you're going to be
selling through sales letters, you need a copywriter who's good. Good copywriters aren't
cheap. Okay. Or if you're going to sell something on the phone, you need someone on the phone who
can sell. Now my guess is most of your, most of your sales people are also going to be high Ds.
Not all the time, though.
Sometimes copywriters are and things like that.
But if you're going to be doing webinars,
like either you need to be doing a presentation
or somebody needs to be doing a presentation,
that person's typically going to be in a high D.
So you're doing stage, event presentations,
webinar presentations, right?
You need somebody to sell the thing that you got.
There's a lot of ways to sell.
You sell through the written form, right?
Sales letters.
You can do verbally, like phone sales, audio. You can do video. You can do webinars. There's a lot of ways to sell. You sell through the written form, right? Sales letters. You can do verbally, like phone sales, audio.
You can do video.
You can do webinars.
There's different ways, but you have to figure out, like, what's the sales mechanism that's
going to sell that offer that you created?
And so that's the next piece of the pie.
And the last piece of the pie is who's going to be getting the traffic, those people to
show up so the person can actually sell them, right?
It's the marketing.
So you got the marketing drives the traffic.
It brings the people in.
Then the salesperson can sell the person your amazing irresistible offer that will cover all the cost of your advertising plus cover the cost of all the people involved to make
this amazing thing happen.
And that's how this whole game is played.
So I just wanted to kind of put those things out there
for those who are,
if funnels aren't working for them yet,
you're not kind of figuring it out,
you've been trying this thing,
you've been dabbling,
and you're struggling,
like all those little things, you know?
And I know those things are all true
and they're all real.
And if I was building a business from scratch,
if you were to hire me as a consultant,
and this is exactly what I'd do,
the first thing I would do is like,
okay, who on your team is going to be the driver?
Okay, take the disc profile, okay, you have no drivers on your team let's go hire
drivers go find one quick okay or it's like hey that dude right there who's doing nothing that's
your driver like we're gonna put him in the spot okay and then number two is like all right this
person needs to become obsessed with the marketing and the sales like they need to be this like
awesome the strategy of the driving of this thing right because sometimes you might create 10 20 30
funnels before you get the one that pops for you.
So if the person gets bored after attempting the first funnel,
not the right person.
You need a driver who's obsessed,
who's going to just keep going and going and going
until this thing works, right?
Then I'm going to be figuring out,
okay, what's the actual offer we're going to be selling?
Because it needs to be something that's big enough to sustain the growth
so we can grow this as a company
and make a really sexy, irresistible offer
that's expensive enough that can cover all the costs.
And then from there, I'd be like,
okay, how are we selling this thing?
We sell them through webinar, through whatever.
I'd be doing webinar.
I'd be hiring a webinar person.
I'd be hiring a copywriter or whatever.
Figuring out who's going to be selling this thing.
That's the next key.
And then the last is who's the person
that's going to be driving the traffic in the market who's
gonna be getting the eyeballs to show up so we can actually sell them and those
are the pieces if you don't have those pieces that's probably why you're
struggling right now it's time to start building your Avenger team I talked
about last podcast episode I think like find the people around you start
building a team look at this like a real business it's two ways to build a
business one is to try to learn all this stuff yourself and it'll take a long time
and be a lot of effort and work.
Number two is to go hire a bunch of people to do it
which that costs a lot of money.
It can be done but it's way more expensive
and typically you're not going to be able to hire the best.
Number three is start networking.
Start building an Avengers team.
Find people who all believe in the vision, the mission
and one of my first mentors,
he passed away a couple years ago.
His name's Chet Holmes.
I remember I was talking to him initially.
He told me about his company he built.
He built his entire company.
It was a single person on payroll.
Everyone was paid based on a percentage of what they sold.
I was like, what?
He said, yeah, basically the way it works
is in our company, it's like big months,
we all get big checks.
Small months, we all get small checks. Small months, we all get small checks.
That's the way companies should be run.
If I was to start over everything from day one once again, I would definitely be doing it from that vantage point.
Find people.
Bring them in together.
Sell them on your idea.
Don't just bring people just because they're your friends or your family members though.
Find the right people.
Take the disprofile.
Surround yourself with what you aren't.
If you're a high D and high I, find people that are high S and high C and vice versa.
In Inner Circle, Mandy Keene is one of the Inner Circle coaches.
She did a training on disc profiles.
She did a really cool thing.
She showed my disc profile that showed all the people around me and my core team, my management team.
Who are my partners and where are my assistants?
All those kind of people.
It was interesting how we looked at me versus
all the people around me, how like they all compliment me in this really cool way that,
um, based on that, we have this one superhuman, um, because unfortunately we're not all superhumans.
I wish I was, I wish I was a high D I S C, but I'm not. So I guess you're on myself with those
other people. So anyway, I hope that helps you guys.
I'm almost back to the office.
I'm going to bounce because I started having a coughing attack and I'm going to do that
off camera.
So thanks everybody.
Hope you have an amazing day.
We'll talk to you soon.
Bye.