Marketing Secrets with Russell Brunson - You HAVE To Be Obsessed With The Game...
Episode Date: March 20, 2019When you become obsessed with this game, the impact, the influence, and the money will come. On today's episode Russell talks about why being obsessed with the game is the key to success. Here are so...me of the amazing things Russell has to say in this episode: Why Russell is again competing in a wrestling tournament after a 16 year absence. Why the product launching phase of internet marketing was a lot harder, and Russell is relieved it changed. And find out why being obsessed with the game creates a skill set that means only the best survive. So listen here to find out how the marketplace changed from an old boys club to only the best succeed, and why Russell is happy about the change. Transcript - https://marketingsecrets.com/blog/190-you-have-to-be-obsessed-with-the-game Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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What's up, everybody?
This is Russell Brunson.
Welcome to Marketing Secrets Podcast.
I'm so excited to have you guys here today.
With that said, let's keep the theme song
and we're gonna get to some fun.
So the big question is this.
How are entrepreneurs like us,
who didn't cheat and take on venture capital,
who are spending money from our own pockets,
how do we market in a way that lets us get our products and our services and the things that we believe in out to the world and yet still remain profitable? That is the question
and this podcast will give you the answer. My name is Russell Brunson and welcome to
Marketing Secrets. marketing secrets. Go.
Alright everybody, so I just dropped my kids off at school.
I'm driving back.
There's always tons of traffic, so I was like, you know what?
I want to hang out with you guys a little bit.
This morning I woke up early and I actually had a wrestling practice.
Not for my kids.
I did a wrestling practice for my kids last night, but today I did it for myself because I'm actually going to go and compete in a tournament in like six weeks from now. And I am insanely out of shape.
Um, but I'm also so excited. Like, ah, so excited. It's, um, it's, uh, it's funny.
Cause like, I haven't actually put on a wrestling single in like, I think 16 or 17 years, something
like that. So I'm super nervous, but like, I don't know, it's weird. Like I never thought
I'd be done wrestling, but like when I got done, I was done. Like it's, it was the weirdest thing.
Like my whole life was focused on this thing. And, um, my senior year I was working towards,
uh, going to the NCAA tournament. I wanted to be an all American and, uh, at the pack 10 tournament
before NCAAs. Um, I thought for sure I was going to, I think it was like the top, like first and
second place they took the NCAA tournament or something like that and um it was crazy as uh like my I think my second match
I wrestled the returning Pac-10 champ um and I beat him I beat him really good actually so I was
like I was like I I should win Pac-10 like I just destroyed the dude who won it last year
and then somehow I lost like some dude who I'd never heard of never seen him never anything and I and I lost to him and I didn't make any sense and I got knocked out
tournament and I didn't get to go it was the weirdest thing where like you know when you
think there's gonna be an ending like you can prepare like mentally prepare for that so I was
like okay my senior year my last tournament's gonna be NCAA tournament I'm really excited I
was like looking forward to this thing and then two two weeks earlier, the pack 10, I lost and it was like, it was done and it was over and I wasn't ready for
it to be over, but it was, and it was, it's crazy. And, um, anyway, and I think like I would have
gone into like severe depression cause like my whole life is focusing on this one thing and then
you don't even get to go to the thing, like a horrible feeling. But luckily I had this little,
um, fledgling little
business I'd started up. And so I shifted all my focus to that, to get away from the pain.
And for the next, yeah, 16 years of my life, that's all I did was this business thing.
And luckily it turned out to be a good, a good, a good waste of my energy and time.
It's been fun. But I know that like, even like seven or eight years ago, I like missed wrestling
so much that I'm seeing, I has heard this story from listening to podcasts.
Like I built up a wrestling gym and I hired the Olympic Greco coach and I flew him to Boise.
And then I hired like eight or nine guys who were training for Olympics and flew him to Boise.
And I paid their salaries because I wanted to wrestle again.
I wanted to compete and train.
So I started training and I got trained for probably six or so months getting ready for I got hurt once or twice.
My body was weak.
And I was planning on going to like a tournament.
I was like so excited to go and actually put a singlet on again and wrestle in a tournament.
And then our business crashed and I had to go back in the business, try to save it.
I spent, you know, six, seven, eight months trying to save the business.
And then I ended up having to like let go of all the wrestlers and the wrestling team because I just ran out of money.
And I never got to wrestle, even though I spent, I don't know half a million bucks and that's energy I never even got a goal on the mat
it killed me and then like I was focused on like trying to rebuild the business and then you know
next two or three years I didn't know what I was doing and then like click funnels came about and
then like holy cow what a roller coaster ride that's been the last five years it's been so much
fun but it's been crazy and right now it's like we just got a fun liking live and there's a
wrestling tournament the big u.s opens in vegas in like six weeks i was like you know what i'm just
gonna go i i just i'm just gonna go and i'm just gonna wrestle and like and i'm probably gonna be
horrible and i'm probably gonna get beat and that's okay i just want to like go and and just i want to
i just want to wrestle i remember when i was in college, um, I'd go to
the, uh, the open nationals, uh, us nationals. And I remember there's different divisions. So
there's a division that's like 35 to 45 years old. That's the vision I'll be in now. And then
after 45, it's like 45 to like 90, you know, it's like the veterans division for old men.
And there was this dude who was like probably like 80 something years old. He had like,
he was bald and had like gray hair around his ears, you know, and he was out there in his singlet wrestling. And I remember thinking like, I hope that's me when I'm 80 something years old. He had like, he was bald, but had like gray hair around his ears, you know?
And he was out there in his singlet wrestling.
And I remember thinking like,
I hope that's me when I'm like 80 years old.
And you know what?
I've been a wuss.
I haven't for the last 18, 17, however many,
16, 17 years, 18 years.
I don't know what it is.
I haven't competed once.
And I did some jujitsu tournaments, which was fun.
But like wrestling's what I love.
And so I was like, I'm just going to go.
And I'm going to make this a yearly thing where I just go. even if I'm out of shape, if I'm going to get beat,
I don't care. I'm just going to fly there, wrestle and do my thing. And just, just to like,
not lose that part of my identity. So, um, anyway, so I'm pumped and excited and I've
been lifting weights for it. So I'm like, I'm strong. Um, but like I haven't wrestled other
than wrestling my kids. So today my buddy Lex case came over when I was wrestling friends from Boise state and
hopefully he's going to come to, which would be fun.
So at least a workout partner to warm up with.
Um, anyway, and, uh, we, we, we wrestled today and it was so much fun and I'm so out of shape,
but, um, anyway, it was, it was good.
I really, I really, uh, really enjoyed it.
So that's, uh, that's, uh, kind of what, what happened this morning.
Dropped my kids off school and now I'm, now I'm going back to the pick up my stuff and
head in the office.
So, but as I was driving today, the kids and we were singing, uh, greatest showman and
head banging and having a bunch of fun.
Cause I tried to get them in state before they have to go to the most horrible thing
on planet earth. I don't tell them that yet but it is right like school's the
worst oh and so I know like I hate in school every day so I'm like if I need you guys in state every
day before they go to school at least it'll help them a little bit so totally um yeah we listen to
music we headbang and we have times as much fun as possible to get them in good state before they
enter the the doors of of like the worst place on earth. That's such a bad example. Somebody listened to
this podcast and like, dad, you made us go to school. I'm like, I know it's the system. It's
horrible, but you got to go if you want to wrestle, which is important. So anyway, I dropped
them off school and as I was driving and we're having fun, I was thinking about this, uh, this
industry that we're in. I know a lot of you guys are just starting this business or you've been in for a little while,
but it's interesting.
I think what made me think about it is I looked down, I got a text from Stripe.
Every morning I get texts from Stripe, like 10 of them for all the different merchant accounts we have.
Right now we average every three days or so is a million dollars in sales.
It's like whatever $300 and whatever thousand dollars a day
or whatever in Stripe transactions-ish.
Some days are higher, some days are lower,
but to be a hundred million dollars in sales,
that's a million bucks every three days,
which is kind of where we're at.
And hopefully more next year and it can keep going up.
But I saw the transactions come through.
I was like, oh, it's like 300 and whatever thousand dollars today came through.
And it's interesting because I remember like when we used to do the big, so let me, so I'm telling you this cause I want to rewind back in history.
Like, like the internet marketing game back in the day was product launches, right? It
was like you spend three months creating product, writing sales letter, getting people to promote,
getting all the buzz, getting the build up, getting everything. And if you did good job,
you'd have a million dollar launch. Um, but then the half that would
go out to Philly commissions, half to prizes, and you know, you end up with $250,000 if you did a
good launch. And if your launch failed, then there was like a hundred grand or less or 50 grand,
you know, whatever, whatever it was. And it was like once a quarter, we'd all plan a launch.
And so, and it was funny, it's like every week there's somebody doing a launch, right? But you kind of knew that every quarter you'd have your shots, you go create a
new product and create a new thing. And during the, during the off season, when it wasn't your week,
you'd be promoting everybody else's launch in hopes that, that you do well for them so that
they would promote your launch when your launch came back around. It was crazy. Cause like your
list would be, you know, right after your, your launch, your list would be hot and it'd be amazing.
But as you got closer and closer to your launch,
you'd get worse and worse
because you promoted like everybody else's launches
throughout this whole cycle.
And then, you know,
you'd hope that you'd build up enough reciprocity
by the time your product came out,
you could launch it and make, you know,
make a million bucks,
get a new hot list
and start promoting other people's products.
And it was a horrible cycle.
It was so bad on your customers
and bad on your list and bad on everything.
But it was how the game was played for so long.
It's been interesting watching the last six or seven years as the product launch games kind of died.
There's still people doing product launches, but it shifted from the product launch model to the media buying model.
And it's a shift that I am so grateful for.
I love Mark Zuckerberg.
I love that dude.
I don't know if I believe in his politics.
Actually, I have no idea what his politics are.
I'm assuming I don't, though.
I don't know all those things, but I love him
because he created this platform that gave all of us people
the ability to buy ads on it.
Instagram's the same thing, and YouTube, and Google.
Google's had its ups and downs Instagram's the same thing and YouTube and Google, you know,
Google's had its ups and downs right now. Google's Google and YouTube are about 50% of our traffic
now and Facebook and Instagram is the other 50%. And then there's, you know, affiliate, well,
my percentages are off. I'd say 15% are affiliates. And then the other half is split
between Facebook, Facebook, Instagram on one side and YouTube and Google on the other side.
But man, I'm so grateful for
these platforms that made it where it's like, we can actually run sustainable businesses. Not like
the old product launch days was just like, I scratch your back, you scratch my back. I'll do,
you're like, no one actually was good marketers. They were just people who, you know, the people
made the most money with people that had the best friends. That was kind of it. And it's,
it's been fun watching,
you know, as, as, um, as we've broken outside of that cycle, we still do affiliate stuff,
but, and we still have affiliates promote our things, but it's not based on like,
you know, it's based on who's got the best product. He's got the highest converting offer,
who, who can buy the most media, you know, that that's the game nowadays is who can profitably
buy media, which now it's like, it's, it's like a pure game, right? It's not just like a, a good old boys club. It's,
it's who can actually buy media profitably. And there's the skillset of buying media,
the skillset of building a funnel and the skillset of having a good offer. Like
it's, it's forced people to be better at the game. Um, but it's made the game more pure.
And, um, anyway, I'm just telling you this because,
um, you know, a lot of you guys are just jumping in right now and you're not, you know, you don't know what the history was and how the past was, but, um, it's really cool because the way that
it works today, it really is based on like, who's the best, like, who's got the best, you know,
who's the best at buying ads, who's the best at creating good offers, hooks and stories and
offers, and who's the best at creating funnels. And like, you know, and if you're mediocre nowadays, back in the day, you can be mediocre.
As long as you had friends with a big email list who promote your stuff, you'd win.
But nowadays, it's like, you know, you actually have to be good.
And it's kind of cool.
It's like survival to fit us.
Like the marketplace votes now on what's good and what's not good.
And if you're not good, you're not going to win.
And so for us and for me and for you, it gives us a shot to like,
if we want to win this game,
there are skill sets we have to learn.
We have to actually become good.
It's not a good old boys club anymore.
It's not based on popularity contests.
It's 100% based on your skill set
and what you're willing to do
and what you're willing to learn
and evolve into and grow into.
And so if you're not willing to do that,
you're not going to win playing out. And back when I got started in this game 10 years ago,
it did not matter how good your skillset was. It just mattered how good your, your network was and
the good old boys club and how you can, you know, you can hang out with people. And there's still
some of that. Um, but for the most part, you know, Zuckerberg doesn't care who you are, doesn't care
how cool you are. All he cares is that you create ads that people like, people click on them, you know, and if you do good stuff, the ads get cheaper. If you,
if you're bad, like you get banned and things like that. And it's just like, it's, I don't know,
it's made the game more pure and I love it. Um, you know, and it's, it's been, I think,
you know, I, I always struggled to penetrate the good old boys club and get into with all the,
you know, the syndicates and the things like that, that there were all these guys that were cool that they
didn't think I was cool for some reason. And I always hated that. I was like, man, I feel like
my skillset's better. I'm working harder. I'm learning more. I'm doing things, but I was never
able to like be in the top 1% just because, you know, I, I, I wasn't a good networker. I got
nervous around people. I, I, I was an introvert. I struggled. And now that stuff
doesn't matter anymore. All that matters is like, who loves this game the most? Who's obsessed with
it? Who's going to study and learn and grow and figure these things out and test and try and make
the most offers and put the, do the more, you know, like whoever makes the most offers in this
game is going to win. Cause you're going to find out what offers work, what offers don't work.
And some people spend nine months trying to create an offer. And it's like, why would you do that?
Like the offer might not even work. Like we've got to get good at cranking out
offers and try this and try this and try this and try this out, try this hook, try this story,
try this. And like, it's the, the game is played by those who really need to put out a whole bunch
of stuff quickly and test it till you find the winners, you know, ditch the losers, keep the
winners and then keep, you know, scale and go double down on the winners. And so it really is
like, if you don't love this game, if you don't love it,
you're going to struggle in it because it's not just like you promote my thing. I'll promote your
thing. We'll make a bunch of money and we'll take the rest of the, you know, the quarter off. It's
like, no, it's, it's, it's more pure now. And I love it. And I'm grateful for it. And I hope you
guys love it as well. You know, it's been interesting. Everyone's got like their, their
role in this world.
And I really feel like my, one of my roles is to make this whole marketing thing fun for people.
You know, like I remember going to these events back in the day and, um, and I would love them.
I'd be sitting in these room and there's all these old people and the people on stage talking about their successes and what they're doing and direct response and direct mail and newspapers
and tear sheets, all these things. And I would would like and most of the room is just bored out of their mind like you know like trying to figure out how
they're gonna do the thing and i'm sitting there in the back like freaking out like
like this is so exciting do you guys are you listening to what people are saying like this is
the most exciting thing in the world i was like the excited kid in the back and i was like
why are people able like how are they able to sit there all like, like quietly and take notes?
Like I'm freaking out.
Right.
And it was funny.
Cause I was like, maybe I'm wrong.
So I tried to like sit in the culture and just be, you know, sit there and take notes.
And I hate taking notes.
I'm not a note taker, right?
I'm someone who like listens to get inspired.
I see a vision.
And as soon as I see the vision, then it's like, it's in my head.
And I can go and run and execute on it.
And so, and I always felt weird.
Like, why can't I, like, I'm not taking notes. Like, why am I not taking notes and everyone else isn't? I would take notes and I'd go and run and execute on it. And so, and I always felt weird, like, why can I,
like, I'm not taking notes. Like, why am I not taking notes and everyone else is? And I would
take notes and I'd never look at them again. I'm like, God, I don't understand this. And I remember
going to my very first Tony Robbins event. And, um, I remember I showed up with a backpack and
my laptop and I thought I would sit in the back and take notes while Tony was talking.
And if you go to Tony's event, you know, there's no tables. Everyone's jumping in your ears. You know, it's, you're jumping around. It's crazy. I remember sitting there with my lap,
you know, I put my laptop under my chair and I'm like, I'm so embarrassed. Like I'm the only one
with a laptop here. Like this is different. There's energy, there's momentum. There's like,
you see a vision and like you, you try to like anchor it to your body with the energy and
excitement. And I remember seeing Tony's stuff and then seeing the marketing. I was like, I feel like
my, my job is this blend in the middle where it's like, I need to make marketing fun and exciting and like real for
people. Cause if I can make this fun, like this is the most exciting game in the world. Right.
And I go to these other events where everyone's bored and half asleep. I go to Tony's event with
jumping around and, and it was, it was awesome. It wasn't, you know, it's personal development.
And I was like, how do we take this personal development energy and plug it into the market,
which I feel like is the most exciting, like amazing thing on planet earth.
And how do we plug these things together? And, you know, I feel like that's what Funnel Hacking
Live has become. I've tried to create this thing where it's, it's, it's half Tony Robbins,
it's half Dan Kennedy, but it's this blend in the middle where it's Russell Brunson and like
excitement and passion and energy that you feel the personal development conference with like
direct response marketing. We learned from Kennedy wrapped into like this experience where it's like,
it's both of those. And so those who came to fun, like live, you felt both of those things.
Um, but man, I feel like my role is really to make this exciting for it. Because if you love this
game, you will be successful and you will change people's lives. If you're like indifferent about
the game, like, Oh, I just want to help people. Like, I just want to, I just want to make money. You're going to struggle. If you're, if you just
want to make money, you're going to struggle. If you just want to get your, like, I just want to
sell my product, sell my product. You're going to struggle when you become obsessed with the game,
the game of marketing, this whole thing. Right. And like creating hooks and stories and offers
and plugging them out there and putting them out there and having fun with like, when you become
obsessed with that piece of this, that's
when you're going to thrive.
That's, you know, it's, it's been amazing because of these networks like Facebook and
Instagram and Google and YouTube and, and the other ones out there, it's, it's taken
away the good old boys club.
It's taken away all these other things and it's made it where it's like those who love
this game, those who are obsessed with this game, they win.
Right. And your product and your service will with this game, they win, right?
And your product and your service will, will add to the obsession, right?
Like I was talking to Stacy Martino this morning who, you know, they run relationshipdevelopment.org
and she spoke about it twice and like they help people with their marriages and like
that's their product, right?
And they're obsessed with their product, but they've also become obsessed with the marketing
of their product.
And that's why they've grown so much.
That's why I have so much success. Like when you become obsessed with the
marketing of your thing, then your thing will have life. It'll give it breath. It'll give it the
ability to change and serve and like, and like, you know, change people's lives. But if you are
just obsessed with your product, it's never going to get out there. You got to become obsessed with
this game. So my goal, my role is to get you obsessed with this game, make it so much fun
where you wake up every morning. You're like, all right, let's make new landing pages, make new
offers, put a new Facebook live. Let's try, let's try a video, try a hook. Let's try a story. Let's
try like a thing. And when you become like, when that becomes your art, that's how you, that's how
you become amazing in this game. So anyway, I'm going to keep doing this. I'm going to keep getting
you guys pumped and inspired and excited about marketing, about direct response marketing,
right? This thing that has been boring for the last century, I'm trying to make it sexy.
I'm trying to bring in personal development and Tony Robbins and energy and excitement
to it because if I can make you excited by it, then, um, then you'll be able to get your,
your, your mission, your message, your, your thing out there.
And now is the best time to do it because all of the, all of the popularity contests
are done.
Zuckerberg doesn't care about anything other than, than if you're, if people are clicking
on your ads and if they're enjoying the experience and if they are, you win.
And if not, you lose.
And so you've got to be good enough.
You've got to become obsessed with it.
You've got to become a student of this game.
And the more you do that, the more fun you're going to have, the more money you're going
to make.
Um, and the more people's lives are going to change, which is why we really
do this when it all is boiled down, when it all gets boiled down. So I hope to help somebody
today. Um, I'm going to keep doing my thing and keep making this game exciting. And I hope that
you catch the fire. Um, if you can catch the fire of this game, um, it'll, it'll be a fun thing for
you. And, um, so please catch the fire. I'll keep preaching. I'll keep getting you excited to keep plugging in, keep listening. And the more you get excited by the game, um,
all the other things will come. The impact, the influence, the money will come as you get
obsessed with this game of marketing. So that's what I got you guys. Appreciate you all. Thanks
for hanging out today. If you enjoyed this episode, please take a screenshot of it,
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