Marketplace - Boeing bounces back
Episode Date: April 22, 2026Boeing posted strong Q1 earnings Wednesday, and executives breathed a sigh of relief. The aircraft manufacturer survived several years of significant tumult, which included labor disputes, pl...ane malfunctions, a production backlog, and shifting FAA restrictions. In this episode, how Boeing managed a comeback. Plus: Prediction markets Kalshi and Polymarket will start offering perpetual futures, carmakers push to follow Tesla’s direct-to-consumer sales model, and tariffs disrupt regular shipping cycles.Every story has an economic angle. Want some in your inbox? Subscribe to our daily or weekly newsletter.Marketplace is more than a radio show. Check out our original reporting and financial literacy content at marketplace.org — and consider making an investment in our future.
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In no particular order, ticker symbols B-A, T-S-L-A, and R-I-V-N.
Also, of course, the rest of the day's business news from American public media.
This is Marketplace.
In Los Angeles, I'm Kai Rizdolle.
It is Wednesday, today, 22 April.
Good as always to have you along, everybody.
We begin today, deep inside corporate America, a company that spans manufacturing,
technology, exports, and supply chains, and which has until pretty recently been having a pretty
tough go of things.
We have talked many a time on this program about Boeing's very long list of problems.
There was a strike, fatal crashes, and ensuing groundings, the production backlog.
Well, as of today, the company is hoping that's all in the rearview mirror.
Boeing reported profits this morning well ahead of expectations, revenue up 14% from last year,
and, and this is the biggie, it's outperforming its biggest competitor,
bus for the first time since 2019.
Marketplace's Kelly Wells gets us going.
For years now, Scott Hamilton kept thinking Boeing had finally stopped its downward spiral.
And then they stepped on their own foot again and did something else.
He's an aviation industry consultant with Leigham Company.
He says Boeing's downfall started with a merger in the 90s and its quality has suffered
ever since.
Hamilton says it'll take years to fully fix, but now?
Boeing is finally, finally, finally.
on an upward trajectory.
There are two recent developments that have helped shape that trajectory, says Megna Maharishi,
airline reporter at the travel site, Skift.
First, she says President Trump has been a big Boeing salesman.
A lot of the blockbuster orders that we've seen in the news that have come out,
those are things that have been maybe like announced at summits and, you know, events where Trump was at.
And second, it's been two years since that fateful panel broke off a Boeing plane mid-flight.
They've also been just like able to ramp up.
production of the 737 max after the FAA had put limits on the production of that aircraft,
which is their best-selling aircraft. So now 737 max production has ramped back up. And the FAA
says certifications for two new Boeing models are on track to happen later this year. But just
as Boeing overcomes those problems, it's facing a new set of headwinds from the war in the
Middle East. Ryan Ewing, founder of the industry site airline geeks, says those aren't showing up in
the first quarter numbers. The airlines usually feel at first and then manufacturers will feel it
second. The airlines are feeling the spiking fuel prices and canceled flights as ticket prices soar.
I think you're going to start seeing airlines pull back a little bit on what they're willing to
go out in order. I think the other part of that is, you know, you might see airlines deferred
deliveries for airplanes. The war started two-thirds of the way through Boeing's first quarter,
so its effects likely won't show up until next quarter.
I'm Kaylee Wells for Marketplace.
Market action today, kind of a mixed bag, TBH equities, hit yet more record highs.
Oil traders, though, not at all sanguine about the state of affairs.
We will have the details when we do the numbers.
Shipping is arguably the global economic story right now, what with the Strait of Hormuz still being closed and all.
But sent aside the headlines for a second about oil and fertilizer and aluminum and whatnot being trapped in the Persian Gulf.
think bigger about what's happening in the rest of global shipping, critical as it is to global
supply chains. Weston Labar is our go-to on matters of maritime supply. He's a chief strategy officer
at waterfront logistics. That's a short-distance transport and yard storage company down at the
Port of Los Angeles. Mr. Blabar, welcome back to the program. Great to talk to you, Kai.
So last time we had you on end-ish of last year, 2025 had proved to be a little bit tricky for you.
And I guess I wonder how the first, where are we now, first four months of 2026 are treating you.
Yeah, full disclosure, 2026 has been a little rough to start for most people in this industry,
but I don't think that comes as shocking news to anybody.
We talked about how erratic last year was with the high highs, with surges related to tariffs and the low lows with the volume lulls that follow it.
We knew traditionally the first part of the year is slow because of lunar New Year and the impacts at
that has this year lunar new year in february we saw 136 blank sailings for the u.s west coast and
what that really means is they don't have enough containers to fill a ship so they cancel it
think of it this way if you're taking a flight and they've got four flights from los angeles to
new york and they only have enough people to fill two flights they cancel two of those flights
and they rejigger the structure of who's sitting where to fit all of those passengers on two flights
instead of four. So imagine 136 sailings that were supposed to happen with containers that did not happen.
For a layperson, what do we read into that? Well, first and foremost, that obviously means there's
less cargo coming through our ports, and that means there's less jobs and opportunities for the
workers in the surrounding area. And then on top of it, we had other impacts like the closing of the
Strait of Hermuz due to the Iran conflict. So ships that would normally go through the Strait of Hermuz,
maybe the U.S. East Coast or Gulf Coast were being redirected to transshipment ports in Asia
to get that cargo to the U.S. West Coast. And with the blank sailings, there were no ships to bring
that cargo to the U.S. West Coast. And so that compounds the issue on top of it.
With the acknowledgement that you're mostly a short distance company, obviously, as you were
just talking about, long-distance shipping is kind of an issue now. And ships, of course,
course, use fuel. Fuel is expensive. Talk to me about that part of your industry right now and the
rising costs of petroleum products. Yeah, well, on the shipping side of things, a lot of them have
locked in bunker fuel contracts, which are coming up for many of them for renegotiation. So I don't think
you've seen 100% of the impact of fuel on the maritime shipping industry so that the actual
container ships. However, we've obviously seen it here on the land side with diesel spiking over
$8 a gallon here in Southern California. And really what that means is you have to re-evaluate
how you're charging your customers or maybe you need to author a surcharge temporarily until those
fuel prices get back to normal, in which case you're putting your book of business with some
customers at risk. Yeah, nobody's loving those fuel charges. I'll tell you what. Let me ask you
to step back for a minute. And let's talk, well, not broad sweep, but short-term sweep of history.
Since 2020, the logistics industry has had a pandemic. It's had tariffs. And now it's had a war that
we still haven't figured out exactly what's going to happen. I don't know. How has that been for you,
I guess? Well, what's sad is that our industry for so long was built on these predictable cycles.
early in the year slow, middle of the year through essentially the holidays, super busy.
Labor has been created around that.
Capacity has been created around that from like a real estate perspective and equipment
perspective and a labor perspective.
And you can't predict that anymore.
So you have so many of these uncontrollable events that impact your day-to-day business
that there really isn't a new norm.
There's just no normal.
I was going to ask you to crystal ball the rest of the year, but who knows, right? That's what you just said.
Well, I do think that most importers are anticipating another tariff shoot a drop sometime this summer after July. So many of them are saying, if it's ready, ship it now.
So we should see a very healthy Q2. If consumer spending stays high, we should still see a strong second half of the year from a volume perspective. But if we have a
have a year that was up and down like last year and we have the lower rates even still from last
year corresponding with it, you're going to see a lot more bankruptcies. You're going to see a lot
more companies either downsize or close their door. And that's going to be a sad situation.
Yeah, that's that's freight rates, not interest rates, just to be clear. West of Labar at
Waterfront Logistics, he's the chief strategy officer. Ms. Labar, thanks for time, sir. I do appreciate it.
Thanks for having me.
reasonable people can disagree about the utility of prediction markets.
Kalshi and Polly Market are the two biggies.
You can argue about the ethics and the legality of some of the big bets that have been made on those sites of late.
What you can't really debate, though, is that they are growing in popularity and that they are looking for ways to get even bigger.
The information reported yesterday that Kalshys prepared to launch something called perpetual futures markets, perps in the vernacular,
prediction markets that basically never end tied to the price of a particular asset.
Not to be outdone, Polly Market is getting into perps as well.
As marketplaces, Megan McCarty Carino reports, these kinds of derivatives have been popular in crypto for years.
Till now, though, mostly outside U.S. markets.
Traditional futures contracts have an end date.
A buyer and a farmer make a deal today on the price for the next wheat crop, then it gets delivered at harvest.
Though modern futures are often tied to an asset that's a bit less tangible like a stock price,
they still have an expiration date.
Perpetual futures don't, says Daryl Duffy, a professor of finance at Stanford.
They never mature. There's no final date.
You just keep paying based on price movements.
A few times a day, traders on either side have to settle up based on the current value of the asset.
Duffy says they're currently used mainly as a way to bet on the end.
ups and downs of cryptocurrencies.
Speculators love it because they don't have to mature their contracts.
They just keep going.
But perps raise a lot of regulation questions that haven't been answered yet, says Ben Shiffran
at the nonprofit better markets.
They involve a lot of leverage, which means, you know, investors can lose even more than they
put in.
On crypto exchanges, traders can leverage a position for up to 50 times what they put in and
keep rolling it over and over with just a small amount of collateral.
And I think it's unlikely that retail investors to whom these perpetual futures seem to be marketed
are going to understand the risks.
Last year, the global trading volume of perpetual futures on crypto exchanges was estimated
at more than $80 trillion.
But these trades haven't really been authorized in U.S. markets.
This year, the Federal Commodity Futures Trading Commission signaled it's opening the door
to perps. The most significant benefit of unshoring perpetual futures is that it is regulated.
Gamble Harvey is a professor of finance at Duke. This makes trading on these markets much more secure.
More secure than offshore markets, but there's still not a lot of clarity about how the CFTC will regulate perpetual futures,
Just like there's not a lot of clarity about how they regulate prediction markets in general.
I'm Megan McCarty Carrino for Marketplace.
Coming up.
I've learned that a lot of Americans are addicted to storage.
You, perhaps?
First, though, let's do the numbers.
Dow Industrial is up 319 today, two-thirds of 1%.
49,468.
The NASDAQ picked up 322 points.
That's one and a third percent, 24,582.
the S&P 500. Found 59 points in the couch cushions, 9 tenths percent, 71, 23 there. Boeing, you ask,
up 5.5 percent on the day. The company's main competitor, Europe's Airbus, dipped two and a third percent.
The Brazilian company, Embraeer, or maybe it's Embraer. I don't know. Anyway, known for its smaller
regional jets, drop two and two-tenths of one percent. G.E. Vernova turned in a robust revenue
report for the last quarter, up 16 percent to almost $10 billion. That's better than expectations.
What is GE Vernova, you ask?
It's a spinoff of the OGGE.
It makes gas turbines and other equipment needed for electrical grid modernization.
Much in high demand with the build out of AI, right?
GE Vernova, up 13 and 7 tenths percent on the day.
Bonds down yield on the 10-year teen-ote rose 4.30%.
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I'm Kai Rizdal.
With no offense intended toward car sales professionals used or new,
it's not like a trip to the dealership is ever really a good time.
And yet there are states that require new car and trucks to be sold through independent
dealers, franchises, in so many words, of carmakers.
Enter, though, Tesla and a 13-year legal fight over its move to sell direct to consumers everywhere.
Other auto startups, including Rivian and Lucid, are following suit earlier this year.
They won the right to go DTC in Washington State.
They're looking for more. Marketplaces, Henry Ep, has today's, huh, economic history actually is pretty interesting story.
This all started over a century ago when cars were a new thing and there were hundreds of car manufacturers in the U.S. and many different ways to buy them.
Daniel Crane is a law professor at the University of Michigan.
You could order one from the Sears or Montgomery Ward catalog.
You could buy one from a gas station or a traveling salesperson.
You could buy them from company-owned stores.
Or you could buy them from local independent dealerships.
But by the 1920s, the U.S. auto industry consolidated into the big three, General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler.
They were all based in Detroit but sold to the entire country.
The problem with that...
American consumers weren't ready to buy a very expensive product from a distant company they didn't know.
They needed a person that they trusted in their local community to say,
the car to them. So car manufacturers contracted with local dealers to sell their vehicles and car
makers focused on making cars. But that gave the big three a lot of power over the dealers,
says Catherine Judge, a law professor at Columbia. And they could force smaller franchises to
buy things they didn't want to buy and to accept terms that were really unfavorable to them.
The dealers fought back. Starting in the 1930s, they pushed states to pass laws to level
the playing field with the car companies. Those included bans on car manufacturers selling direct
to customers. The idea was to prevent car companies from undercutting local dealers. So for decades,
consumers didn't have any other option, Judge says. If you wanted to buy a car, you needed to go
to a dealer. And the dealer was your primary source of information about the different options
that were available. But then came the internet where customers could get their own information,
and then came this startup called Tesla with its CEO Elon Musk.
Again, Daniel Crane at the University of Michigan.
He makes a business decision that Tesla will have to go direct, open its own stores, sell
online, and have its own service centers as well. No independent dealers involved at all.
Dealerships hated this and fought with Tesla in court and in state legislatures.
Tesla and other EVE startups came out on top in many cases and won exemptions.
that allow them to sell direct.
Crane calls this period the Tesla Wars.
He wrote a book about it.
A decade in, he says the legal landscape looks pretty different.
There are states that are very closed and states that are quite open
and a whole variety of possibilities in between those things.
In some states, Tesla, Rivian, and other startups can sell direct,
but traditional carmakers still can't,
which brings us to the latest chapter in this battle
over a brand called Scout Motors, owned by Volkswagen.
It plans to sell its SUVs and trucks directly to consumers starting in 2027.
Cody Thacker is Scouts, Vice President of Commercial Operations.
We got overwhelming feedback that the consumer was tired of the existing model, felt abused in the existing model, and they were begging us for direct sales.
Dealership groups have filed multiple lawsuits arguing that Volkswagen dealers should get to sell the Scout brand.
The National Automobile Dealers Association did not provide a comment by our deadline, but in the past, it has said it would challenge, quote, all attempts to sell direct.
Scout argues that its direct sales model will lower consumer prices.
But Ray Shefska at the car buying site Car Edge, who worked in dealerships for four decades, says dealerships can help cut prices too.
When you have multiple dealers of the same brand in a market area, there will be competition.
and the customer can utilize that competition to hopefully get a better price.
When you're buying direct from the manufacturer, that doesn't exist.
And in the best case scenario, he says dealers can add a level of service
and connection to your local community that a manufacturer can't.
I'm Henry App for Marketplace.
Not that it's necessarily any of my business,
but is anything you own sitting in a self-storage facility right now?
I ask because more Americans are using self-storage than ever before.
And as a result, in the way that these things go, the industry is building a whole lot more of it.
Fred Bernstein wrote about the self-storage boom and his personal experiences with it in the Wall Street Journal the other day.
Mr. Bernstein, welcome to the program.
It's good to have you on.
Thank you so much.
Here's the thing I don't understand about this.
American houses are getting bigger, bigger, bigger, and bigger.
And yet we're renting, as you point out in this piece, far more self-storage,
than we ever have? That's right. I mean, not only our house is getting bigger, but household size
is getting smaller. So actually, we have much more room for a person in our homes, but we buy a lot of
stuff. People will buy a lot of things that don't really need that they can't bear it apart with.
You've got a theory on why this happens, right? Explain that to me. Why it happens. Well,
just people buy more things than they need, and they're emotionally attached to them. And once you
spent a lot of money storing things, you really hate to admit that you've wasted that money,
you keep doing it.
And the storage places are designed to make it hard for you to get out.
Their business really depends on people bringing stuff in and never taking it out.
This will surely earn me some hate mail from the self-storage industry, but they are not the
most attractive buildings, these places.
And towns and cities have kind of decided they don't want them around, or at least in
residential areas, yeah.
That's right.
They don't want them on commercial strips, either.
They've liked to have street life.
and these places are devoid of life for the most part,
and more and more of them are controlled remotely by large corporations.
They often don't even have people on duty.
So they're not good for eating commercial areas active,
and they're not beautiful at all in residential areas.
They really need to be in industrial parks,
but developers don't want to put them in central locations.
Yeah, and of course, people who have self-storage spaces
don't want to have to drive out to some industrial space, right?
I suppose.
It never bothered me.
I have space for 30 years.
But I guess people walk them in central locations just like everything else.
Well, we've come now to that point in this interview where I ask you to relate your personal experience with this, because you know where of you speak.
Yeah.
I bought a house more than 30 years ago.
The house did really work out.
It was a weekend house, and there were some problems with it.
Then after a year or so, I put it on the market.
And when I sold it, I wanted to put everything in storage because I thought I might get another weekend house.
And I never bought another weekend house, but I kept the stuff.
And I never really had a good way of getting it out.
It was an entire house full of furniture and appliances.
And there was no dumpster on premises.
I think one of the things the owners of these facilities do is not provide any way of disposing of things.
It just seemed like an impossible problem having all the stuff that are not knowing what to do with it.
You put this in print, so I'm not outing you at all.
But over 30 years, you write that you spent $100,000 on this place.
Something like that.
I never added it up exactly.
But I don't feel too bad.
I used to joke that some people's vices, alcohol, some gambling.
This is my vice or really my addiction in a way, which is storage.
And I've learned that a lot of Americans are addicted to storage.
I've gotten read or mail from people who have six or eight or ten storage spaces.
sometimes in different states, frequently hiding them from their spouses.
They're embarrassed, but they can't stop.
How did it come to pass that you wound up getting rid of this thing?
My husband insisted that we not take a vacation until we got rid of the stuff,
because it was costing a lot of money.
And he put his foot down, and we spent three days there with our sons,
and we went through it all.
It was very eye-opening to be reminded of chapters from my earlier life that I had forgotten
about completely, and all that was in the storage space, not just furniture, but really evidence
of so many things I had forgotten about in my personal life and in my professional life.
It was absolutely fascinating going through the boxes.
Not to add insult to injury, but you did have to pay a guy to help you cart it all the way.
Oh, yeah, I had to pay a thousand dollars to cart away the things we didn't need because
there was no other way to get it out of there.
There were many items he probably were worthless, so I let them have them.
And months later, I saw I'm selling them.
on eBay for quite a lot of money.
So that really had insults the injury.
It really did.
Fred Bernstein wrote in the journal the other day about self-storage spaces.
Ms. Bernstein, thanks for your time, sir.
I appreciate it.
Thank you so much, Guy.
This final note, a follow-up of sorts,
to Megan's story yesterday about agentic artificial intelligence,
AI that can mostly autonomously do things.
I miss this in the news fire hose that we are living in, but apparently Google's CEO Sundar
Bichai said yesterday, fully 75% of the company's new computer code is being written by agentic
AI. A year and a half ago, it was 25%. Telling you what, the future is coming at us faster than
we are ready for. Our media production team includes Brian Allison, John Fokie, Montana Johnson,
Drew Jostet, Gary O'Keefe, and Charlton Thorpe. Alex Simpson is the manager of media production.
And I'm Kyle Rizdahl. We will see tomorrow, everybody.
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