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Episode Date: February 13, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:02 An encouraging inflation report to end the week, plus the rise of concierge medicine, and AI comes to your weather forecast. From American Public Media, this is Marketplace. In Denver, I'm Amy Scott in for Kai Risdahl. It's Friday, February 13th. Good to have you with us. It's been about five years now that we've been living with inflation higher than the Fed's target of 2% annually, but we're getting close.
Starting point is 00:00:40 or to that target. Today's delayed consumer price index report from the Labor Department shows prices rose just 2.4% on an annual basis in January, down from 2.7% the previous month, and way down from the peak of more than 9% in 2022. But as usual, the devil is in the details. And here to dive in with us are Catherine Rampel at the Bullwork and MS Now. And also Greg Ip at the Wall Street Journal. Hi, you two. Hey, Amy. Hello.
Starting point is 00:01:13 All right, Greg, let's start with your takeaways from that inflation report. Good news? Well, yeah, I'd say that it is a good report. The inflation rate of 2.4%. Certainly a lot lower, as you were saying, that it was a few years ago. And economists like to take out the energy and food portions, not because they don't actually think those are important, but because they're very volatile.
Starting point is 00:01:35 And if you do that, you come up with an inflation rate of only around 2.5%. which is the lowest for that number since 2021 just after the pandemic. But as you said, the devil is in the details. If you look below the surface, you do still see some signs of tariff inflation in things like appliances and other imported goods. And also, this may come as a surprise to some people, but it's actually several different ways to measure inflation. And the Federal Reserve has its own preferred inflation gauge.
Starting point is 00:02:06 And when you actually see how, today's report affects that alternative gauge. It suggests inflation might actually be still stuck at around 3%, which is too high for the Fed, which prefers an inflation rate of 2%. Catherine, what about you? What are you seeing in this report? What stood out to you? A lot of the same highlights that Greg just mentioned. So, yep, good news that so-called core inflation stripping out volatile food and energy prices fell to its lowest level in almost five years. it's a little bit hard to know how much to take this report at face value because there's still probably some distortions from the recent government shutdown, of course. And as Greg points out,
Starting point is 00:02:53 there's also evidence that tariff costs may be increasingly passed along to consumers. We've had a few different reports recently from CBO and I think the New York Fed research team finding that that consumers are paying most of the tariff costs. And you see that in some of the numbers today. I think Greg mentioned appliances, maybe, but you also saw, you know, appliances, furniture. I think new cars all saw pretty sharp price increases in January, probably related to the fact that companies are having to pass along their costs since they can no longer keep absorbing them indefinitely from tariffs. Right. And Jerome Powell, the Fed Chair for now, talked about this last month saying that the expectation, as we'll see, the effects of tariffs flowing through goods prices, peaking and then starting to come down over the course of this year. Greg, how near to the peak do you think we are?
Starting point is 00:03:55 And is it surprising that the tariffs haven't shown up more in price increases? I think we're actually right around the peak. And that, as you suggested, as Powell predicts, that we're going to see less. and less of that effect as the year unfolds. And you're right, the tariff impact on inflation has been less than most people would have thought about a year ago. I think the average forecast back then was we'd get about a percentage point of tariff inflation. And in fact, we only got about a half a percentage point. And the good news is that we're probably not going to see tariffs going up any longer. In fact, there is increasing efforts by the Trump administration to pair back
Starting point is 00:04:32 tariff increases by cutting deals with particular countries, by reducing them on especially sensitive products. There were reports this week that they're looking to narrow, for example, tariffs on steel and aluminum. And so as the tariff increases that we had last April, May, June, recede into the past, they start to also drop out of our inflation numbers. And that would be good news for the inflation rate coming down as we get towards the end of this year. Catherine, can we talk about shelter inflation housing for a moment? Because that's a big component of CPI. It was up 3% annually in January. But it has been decelerating, and we know that there's a lag, you know, between rents and home payments falling and that's showing up in the CPI.
Starting point is 00:05:16 What is happening with housing affordability right now? Well, it depends a little bit on how you define affordability, right? As affordability about price growth, month over month, let's say, or even year over year, or is it how much accumulated growth we have seen over a period of time, basically the level. And I'm sure people will be glad to know that price growth is decelerating, but it's still growing, you know, quite a bit above where presumably renters would like it to be. If you're a homeowner, and you want those imputed rents presumably to be increasing. But if you are a renter or if you are a prospective buyer, 3% price growth is still quite, quite painful. So, you know, it would be nice if we see some further deceleration. If we see it
Starting point is 00:06:14 get down to, you know, closer to the Fed's target for overall inflation. And we may yet see that. It depends a little bit, of course, on what happens throughout the rest of the economy and what happened, you know, in part because if you have inflation overall persistently high, that's going to make it harder for the Fed to cut interest rates and therefore harder for mortgage rates to come down because they are still quite high. I know because I have to refinance soon. So, yeah, so I guess we'll see what happens. But it's a move in the right direction. All right. Moving on from inflation, Greg, we also had that better than expected jobs report from January this week. What does that tell you about the strength of the economy right now? Yeah, well, there's kind of two pieces to that.
Starting point is 00:07:04 jobs report. Now, the first piece of that is that we actually revise a lot of the data from prior years, and we discovered that for the last year and a half, two years, the job market has been way weaker than we first thought. For example, last year, we only created around 15,000 jobs per month, which I think might be the lowest rate of job creation in any year and decades outside of recessions. But the good news is that the last month, January, was actually a pretty good month, where we created 130,000 jobs. So even though we've been in the last year, we've been this period of very soft, stagnant hiring, there's a few hints out there that things might be picking up. So I suppose you could say it's a glass half empty, full story on the job market.
Starting point is 00:07:45 And real quick, Catherine, before we go, wage growth outpacing inflation. How are consumers generally faring right now? Well, if you ask consumers, they say they're doing very, very badly. If you look at consumer sentiment numbers. But yes, those data amongst others are more encouraging. well, both the fact that they are getting more jobs and that there is, you know, stronger wage growth, which is part of the reason why I sort of qualified my affordability answer, because what really matters whether or not consumers, you know, will articulate it this way, is what's happening to prices relative to what's happening to their wages. Basically what's happening to real wage growth.
Starting point is 00:08:26 That affects what they can literally afford. So, yes, good news that we are seeing some strength. in wage growth. Will it be enough to perk up consumers, voters, views of the economy? I'm not so convinced. We'll watch for that. All right. Catherine Rampel is at the Bullwork and MS Now. Greg Ip with the Wall Street Journal.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Thanks both so much and have a great weekend. Thanks for having me. On Wall Street, a mixed trading day on this Friday the 13th. We'll have the details when we do the numbers. The Trump administration is calling it the largest deregulatory action in history that will save businesses and consumers' money. Scientists and environmental advocates, though, say it's a gift to fossil fuel companies that will make people sicker and less safe. I'm talking about the repeal this week of the endangerment finding. That's the EPA's 2009 decision that planet warming greenhouse gases are a threat to public health and welfare.
Starting point is 00:09:48 and it underpins the agency's authority to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. The administration claims the repeal will save more than a trillion dollars in regulatory costs and make cars and trucks more affordable. But as Marketplaces Kaylee Wells reports, climate change is expensive too. The EPA's argument is, by no longer considering the human harm caused by emissions, taxpayers will save $1.3 trillion in energy and transportation. Cars will be $2,400 cheaper to make, according to the agency, and taxpayer money won't go toward regulating the industry. Environment and politics professor Dana R. Fisher at American University is not convinced.
Starting point is 00:10:28 I'm going to call BS on that. I mean, like straight up BS. She says regardless of the EPA's new policy, human harm is still happening. More planet warming emissions makes more extreme weather, like worsening fires, floods, and heat waves. That not only costs people in terms of loss of labor because people can't work outside or they can't work as effectively or when they do work outside, they get sick, but it also will cost lives. She says she doesn't want to put a dollar amount on that. But even if we only focus on transportation, there are hidden costs to the cheaper cars, too. UCLA, Environmental Law Professor Anne Carlson is the former acting administrator of the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. If consumers are purchasing more, less fuel-efficient vehicles, then we're using more gasoline. Which means higher gasoline costs. And does other countries look to buy more efficient and electric cars?
Starting point is 00:11:24 Our manufacturers are going to fall behind. On top of that, the cheaper cars might not come at all. Akshay Jhae Jha teaches economics and public policy at Carnegie Mellon University and says companies are facing what he calls regulatory whiplash. Companies are making long-run investment decisions, not based on what policy is today, but based on what they think policy might be over the next 10, 15, 20 years. Same goes for power plants, Jaws says, especially since new clean energy is cheaper anyway. I doubt anybody's going to build a new coal plant just based on this change. Because by removing regulations, you create uncertainty. And less certainty means companies might wait to make these investments that would save consumers' money. I'm Kaylee Wells for Marketplace.
Starting point is 00:12:15 It's getting harder to find a primary care doctor in this country, maybe you've noticed, and one reason is that a growing number of them are going into concierge medicine, meaning they charge patients a flat fee, a couple thousand dollars a year or more, to be part of their practice. These doctors are still a minority, but between 2018 and 2023, the number of practices charging an annual fee almost doubled, according to a study from Harvard. Concierge doctors still bill insurance, too, but charging that annual fee means they can afford to see fewer patients and give the ones they do see more time and attention.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Marketplaces Samantha Fields has our story. When John Siddlekke first started working as a primary care doctor almost 30 years ago, he loved it. It was great the first five years in practice. You would have our physicals with patients. But a lot has changed since then, and not in a good way. Patients you're taking care of now tend to be older, sicker, they take more time. Yet primary care doctors have less time now. One big reason for that is reimbursement rates have declined over the years.
Starting point is 00:13:24 So doctors make less money now per patient than they used to. And so there's more pressure to see more patients who are more complicated. And so it tends to lead to a lot of burnout amongst providers. That is what ultimately drove Sid Lecki to go concierge two years ago. He was burned out, seeing about 25 patients a day at his private practice near Richmond, Virginia. And then his partner retired, which left him as the only doctor. It wasn't sustainable. Chantinue Nundi, a primary care doctor near Washington, D.C., is not concierge,
Starting point is 00:13:57 but says he hears versions of this from colleagues all the time now. I get this phone call at least monthly from people, you know, who are saying, hey, like, what do you think about concierge medicine? Should I consider it? Almost everyone he knows who is considering it is just hitting a wall in traditional practice, overwhelmed by the relentless pace, paperwork, and insurance demands. But he says doctors are also torn about turning to the concierge model.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I think on one end, they want to do it for the right reasons, which is, hey, I want to just get back to taking care of patients. And on the other side, they're going to be taking care of a lot less patients, and doesn't that mean that more patients aren't going to have doctors? There's already a shortage of primary care doctors in the U.S., particularly in rural areas. And so absolutely, there's a theoretical risk that as more doctors go into consular medicine, that means that the burden on the remaining physicians is higher and higher. And that it's harder for patients who can't afford the fees or don't want to pay them to find a new doctor.
Starting point is 00:14:59 When Katie Wang got an email a few years ago that her longtime primary care doctor in New York City, was going concierge, she was disappointed. I really liked my doctor, really trusted her, and didn't want to go and find somebody else. But she didn't really want to shell out $2,000 a year to stay either. Then she found a lump in her breast. I decided, well, if this lump is something significant, then this is not really the time to be looking for a new physician, right? The lump was significant. Wang had breast cancer. So she paid the $2,000. and stuck with her doctor. And she says she's actually seen a big difference since the practice went concierge.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I mean, huge, huge difference. You know, previously it would be 10 minutes maybe in and out kind of a thing. You know, now she has more time to spend with me. So to me, it was completely worth it in that regard. Like, I feel like I'm getting much better care. That's possible with concierge practices because doctors have many fewer patients. Before Dr. John Siddlake switched his practice over, he had 3,800 people on his roster. Now he's down to 600.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Morally, you still want to take care of all these folks who have trusted you and pay to come see you, and you get to know them and their families. And so that's the difficulty in the decision when you have to sever some of those relationships. He also worries about how many doctors are going concierge near him in Richmond, and the pressure that puts on an already strained health care system. But for Siddlekchi personally, it was the right choice. No question. I would absolutely do it again. I am more rested. I am not as stressed.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I am absolutely practicing medicine the way I feel it should be practiced than the way I want to practice. Spending more time and taking better care of patients. I'm Samantha Fields for Marketplace. Coming up. So it's an ongoing. conversation between all sort of elements of the weather system. All systems go, but first, let's do the numbers. The Dow Jones Industrial average rose 48 points, one-tenth of a percent, a close of 49,500.
Starting point is 00:17:24 The NASDAQ dipped 50 points, 2 tenths percent to finish at 22,546, and the S&P 500 added a mere three points to end at 68-36. For the week, the Dow slipped one and two-tenths percent, the NASDAQ lost two-and-one-tenth-one, The S&P 500 subtracted 1 and 4 tenths percent. Kaylee Wells talked about the EPA scrapping emissions regulations. Well, General Motors Company grew 1 and 4 tenths percent. Ford Motor Company picked up 1 and 9 tenths percent. But electric carmaker Rivian Automotive, on the heels of a sunny fourth quarter earnings report, soared 26 and 6 tenths percent.
Starting point is 00:18:02 You're listening to Marketplace. This is Marketplace. I'm Amy Scott. Totally hypothetical. but let's say your kid has a soccer tournament coming up. It's a couple weeks away, and you want to know how cold and windy is it going to be? Could it get rained out? Typically, you're not going to get a reliable forecast more than seven to ten days out.
Starting point is 00:18:26 However, AI might have something to say about that. Tim Fernholtz wrote for Bloomberg about how researchers and tech giants are developing new forecasting tools that could change the game. Tim, welcome to the program. It's lovely to be here. Thanks for having me. So before we get to AI, talk about how weather forecasting traditionally has worked. So I won't say traditionally because it's actually, it's been an expanding field for the last few decades. But in contemporary times, we basically have a government-run system that collects data from all kinds of sensors all over the world, weather balloons, buoys, every commercial plane in the United States coming down is sharing its measurements with the National Weather Service.
Starting point is 00:19:09 and the National Weather Service has a huge supercomputer, and it plugs all of that information into it, and it goes through these scientific models that meteorologists have spent generations building and spits out a forecast, and it's a very complex and expensive process, and it's been refined and refined, and now we have pretty good weather forecasts out, say, 10 days.
Starting point is 00:19:31 So enter AI. How is that changing? So now we have deep learning, software models where we can feed data from the weather agencies into them and ask them to do forecasts. And it turns out they're actually able to predict the weather better than the traditional way we have done it. And then in particular, these models are very good at doing things like tracking hurricanes, tracking cold fronts that are trickier for the traditional models to do. And so scientists are trying to figure out why exactly they can do this. because you have to sort of understand why it works in order to implement it in a useful way.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Yeah, it was kind of wild to me to read that they don't really understand what's happening. Is that worrying? Or as long as it works, is it okay if the people don't really understand how the AI is doing this? Well, you hear two approaches to that. One is if it works, it works, and we should use it. But what is interesting is that if we understand how it works, we can use it to learn more about the atmosphere itself. These technologies are very new.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Only in 2022 did we first start to see these models coming out. And they are an opportunity to learn. And like a lot of artificial intelligence models, they create a very complex way of managing data that's sort of hard to peer into it first. And just like with the LLMs and other forms of this technology, there's a lot to learn about what actually is happening. And then can we take that and use that to learn more
Starting point is 00:21:07 about science. So this is obviously potentially life-saving, money-saving technology. What do you think about private companies being the ones to really innovate here? Well, it's certainly part of the trend we're seeing. So many of the advances in deep learning technology are coming from the private sector because it takes a huge amount of money to train these models to get the data centers all going. but once they are trained, they're actually incredibly cheap and portable. And so there is a sense in the meteorology community that this is going to democratize access to weather forecasts. And it's also important to say that right now these models, while they are outperforming their government equivalents, they're still dependent on the data that is generated by the governments.
Starting point is 00:22:02 So for now, there's a very intense symbiosis between both sides. So where are we now in terms of the rollout of this technology? Is my weather forecast on my phone incorporating AI yet? If you're using Google, yes it is. Google has been feeding data from its weather model into some of its products. If you are in Europe, you may see it in your daily forecast because the Europeans are much further ahead of the United States. But even in December, the National Weather Service rolled out some AI models of its own that are going to start contributing to forecasts.
Starting point is 00:22:41 How much better do you think this can get in the near term? I mean, could I know if my daughter's soccer game is going to be on, you know, in two weeks? The most important question. Yeah, so it's hard to say how quickly this will take effect. But what these experiments reveal is that there is a lot of potential to extend weather forecasting out to perhaps even a month in the future. They haven't quite figured out how to do it yet, but they can see the potential path towards it.
Starting point is 00:23:09 And so as these models continue to be refined, they will point us towards better forecasts, but they will also perhaps point us towards where we need to invest more in data collection to improve the data we're putting into them, to get better forecasts, and also where we can tweak the traditional models to get better results from them.
Starting point is 00:23:31 So it's an ongoing conversation between all sort of elements of the weather system and how we improve the forecast we're getting. Tim Fernholtz had the story for Bloomberg. He's now a reporter at TechCrunch covering AI in space. We'll definitely have to follow up with you about that. Tim, thanks so much. You're very welcome. Thanks for having me.
Starting point is 00:24:02 This final note on the way out today, much of the Department of Homeland Security is set to shut down early tomorrow. After Congress left for recent, without a deal on new restrictions for federal immigration agents. The Washington Post reports a shutdown would affect about 13% of the federal workforce, including FEMA and the TSA. Though ICE and Customs and Border Protection,
Starting point is 00:24:24 the targets of these proposed reforms can continue operating thanks to billions of dollars from last summer's Republican tax and spending law. Our theme music was composed by BJ Leatherman. Marketplace's executive producer is Nancy Fargolly, Joanne Griffith is the chief content officer. Neil Scarborough is the vice president and general manager. And I'm Amy Scott. Have a good holiday weekend.
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